I can draw a precise comparison of the sex appeal in the bedroom between a 32 year old woman and a 21 year old woman because I’ve had the opportunity to sleep with both within two weeks of each other. This means my memory of how they compare is strong. The average guy who has moved onto banging 30+ year old women has not slept with a 21 year old since his college days, and so won’t remember in lucid detail just how much better a younger girl’s body looks and feels naked.
This is why you should always take older men’s opinions of the sexual appeal of older women with a grain of salt; they have weaker memories of the superiority of their long-ago conquests, and their fragile egos oblige them to proclaim endless paeans to the wonders of the older woman.
Following is a side-by-side comparison of sex between a 32 year old woman and a 21 year old woman. Any differences between the two are age-related only, as neither one exercised regularly and both looked attractive fully clothed.
21 year old
Visual – When she took off her clothes my hard on got harder. There is nothing like a flawless woman’s body. No creases, no wrinkles, no cellulite. All the curves flowed gracefully without interruption by pockets of fat or love handles. The area where the ass cheeks meet the back of the legs – usually the first place to betray the droopiness of aging – was smooth. I wanted to stare at her naked body all day long.
Feel – Despite never having lifted a weight in her life, her flesh was firm, resilient, and supple. Her muscle tone was taut and gravity-defying. Her skin like silk ribbons. Her labia possessed the springiness of a marine’s cot. My hard on felt like it was bursting out of its skin wrapper.
Smell – A young woman is drenched in estrogen and these vapors send waves of pleasure through the male brain as they are inhaled. Guys will know what I’m talking about when I describe the sensation of getting a lap dance from an especially beautiful and fertile young girl and her natural aroma emanating from her pores grips you in sudden arousal. The smell of youthful femininity is more intoxicating than the sweetest rose.
Experience – In this age of ubiquitous porn, bedroom skills aren’t an issue. Every girl has seen the sex act by the time she has graduated high school. In my opinion, experience is highly overrated anyhow. It’s the plaintive ego-salving of older women who want to believe experience can make up for lost looks. Of all the girls I’ve slept with, I can think of only one off the top of my head who remotely resembled a “dead fish” in the sack. If the girl is cute and she likes you, she’ll gyrate her hips, return your thrusts, moan, wrap her legs, and run her hands up and down your back, which is really all she needs to do to qualify as an acceptable lay. Any cradling of your balls just before you jizz is bonus points. It’s not rocket science.
32 year old
Visual – When she took off her clothes the best I could muster was a chubby. It’s not that she was fat; in fact, she was the same weight and height of the 21 year old. The devil is in the details. The subtle age-related flaws in her body combined to produce an overall effect of fading femininity. There were creases and dimples in places there shouldn’t have been. A small pouch had begun to develop in her lower abdomen. The bottom of her tits pressed against her chest. Unlike the 21 year old, I could not get hard just looking at this woman. Squinting helped.
Feel – One word: squishy. If I had tried to bounce a quarter off this woman’s body, it would have sunk into her spongy flesh. There is nothing more… deflating… than squeezing a chunk of ass meat only to pull away with folds of loose skin in your hand. Even her pussy looked older; the lips more floppy and bedraggled, the color a washed-out hue. Since visual stimulation and the feel of her body were not working to arouse me, I had to mentally concentrate very hard on the tip of my dick building friction with her vaginal wall in order to cum. This is why you will see older women in porn work the penis like a piston with their mouths and hands – hard, firm, and unrelenting tactile stimulation is the only way they can get a guy off.
Smell – Whatever alluring scent a young women has is gone by the time she hits her 30s, to be replaced by some rather astringent odors. The faint whiff of baby powder is missing from the older woman’s skin.
Experience – There can be such a thing as too much experience. Nothing is a bigger turn-off than a woman giving you directions in bed on how to please her sexually. Because she has learned over the years which positions and movements bring her to orgasm reliably, she refuses to deviate from her gameplan, and has closed herself off to spontaneous sexual expression.
Advice from my heart:
To all 30+ year old women – If you want to stay in the game and compete with the younger competition, lift weights regularly and stop directing the action during sex like you were Spielberg’s protege. This will give you a fighting chance against out-of-shape 21 year olds.
Moral of this post:
What a horrible cruel joke of the universe is the brief window of a woman’s beauty. Proof, as if any was needed, that god does not exist.
Ahhh the dread FUPA!
I’m assuming your comparison is between two Americans, and therein lies the problem. There are a million explanations for this, but I feel that women in other countries try harder, and for longer, to maintain their good looks whereas Americans just get lumpy and bitter at an earlier age. I bet if you compared a Spanish or Argentinian 32 year old and American 21 year old it would be a tougher competition.
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good god, i feel like i need to go wash my eyeballs.
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“their fragile egos oblige them to proclaim endless paeans to the wonders of the older woman.”
Is that what it is? 😀
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“Nothing is a bigger turn-off than a woman giving you directions in bed on how to please her sexually.”
Well, if the dude thinks sensitive parts should be chewed and/or mangled, then yeah, he needs instruction.
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I think the best women are out of the game by 30. If they’re still ‘in the game’ at 30, they don’t understand what game they’re supposed to be playing. This is a sidepoint though. Good post.
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dchero, some women get out of the game and then have to get back in. I was out at 26, and returned at 29. I’m now 31, and apparently only have a little time left before I turn into a squishy squashy mass of unscrewable Jell-O.
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you’re so right. i’ve had the same opportunity (the 35+ yr old man vs. the hot twenty-something) and no one has a perfect 6-pack V like a 23-yr old boy. except for women nothing is more unattractive than the 35+ man acting and living his life like a 23-yr old.
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Oh no! I’m meeeeellllllllttttttttinnnnnnng! What a world, what a world!
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Pure coincidence that Roosh just posted about older women?
Obviously it depends. Some men value more in a partner than mere youth and beauty. Then again, those men are statistically insignificant and often derided as “beta” or “insecure.” More for women who go against the grain.
P.S. How a person “feels” naked is wrapped up with psychology. It’s impossible to disentangle emotions from sensory input.
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Ahhhhhhh the killer Squishy!!!!!!!!
Ha I remember us talking about this. It’s so weird to take a skinny chick home, get her naked, then sink into the squishy…. ewwwww, what a mind fuck.
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http://www.oldmenfucking.com/
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I don’t think this age breakdown applies to the chubby chasers and their ladies. Firm or flabby at any age can be change based on weight. But I guess you would describe the chubby chasers as betas, who settle for the low hanging fruit … no pun intended.
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A little comic relief:
“After Friedrich Nietzsche declared that “God is Dead” – the word FUCK has become the most important word in the English language.”
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The best advice to 30+ women is to get married quickly. At this point, looks and feminine charm have started to drop pretty fast, and competing with young girls is impossible unless you’re Teri Hatcher — be sure to ask lots of neutral third parties whether you are in fact like Teri Hatcher if you insist on serial dating.
A woman who’s over 30 could still get a nice husband in his mid-40s, so it’s not too late. Just stop going out (your age will only show more against the background of stunning girls in their early-mid 20s), start cultivating a talent if you haven’t already — learning to sing or play an instrument, e.g. — and make sure to cut off all but your most trustworthy female friends. You’re not going to marry them, after all.
And in general, just act more ladylike. That’ll put you in a good position to land a decent husband. Maybe not the dream guy you could’ve snagged when you were 24, but you have to cash in your looks while there’s still something rather than nothing. It’s harsh but true.
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With the plastic surgery revolution, and more and more technology coming, I think that the physical benefits of the young will fade in the coming years. Any advantage with a specific physical component (looks, physique, tits, …) will gradually decrease as we can create more and more beautiful women artificially. Sure, it won’t be like the real thing, but it will be better than the old thing.
I know you don’t like cougars, but there are some hot milfs out there.
What a horrible cruel joke of the universe is the brief window of a woman’s beauty. Proof, as if any was needed, that god does not exist.
Beautiful.
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i like my man because he smells nice, and vice verca.
i’ve read that’s all we need to make our relationship work
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I agree that there is nothing like a young fit people that hasnt seen the gym. But of course a gym body is better than a chubby body.
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young fit BODY
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I’ve had the opportunity to sleep with both within two weeks of each other
In your imagination?
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…than squeezing a chunk of ass meat only to pull away with folds of loose skin in your hand. Even her pussy looked older; the lips more floppy and bedraggled, the color a washed-out hue.
Blech. This could be the most repulsive description of sex and anatomy I’ve ever read. Do you always approach it as if you’re performing an autopsy rather than engaging in the most pleasurable natural act known to man?
I’m not denying that women’s looks fade with age, but if you find older women so repellent, just… don’t sleep with them. Seems simple enough.
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Aaah! Outrage does battle with amusement in me as I consider the implications of this post and detect a hidden agenda. Most young men even in my own youth didn’t want to get married in their early 20s. That’s even truer today, as this article in City-Journal illustrates (see link here: http://city-journal.org/2008/18_1_single_young_men.html).
Good luck finding a man of 30 who is mature enough for marriage; in fact, many of them may have ruined themselves for marriage and marital sex by a succession of casual sex partners and exposure to porn.
So where’s the Hidden Agenda? Well, I suspect that men in their mid-30s to early 40s would like to scare young women in their 20s into marrying them.
And I have long since accepted Old Hag-itude, so this isn’t anything personal…
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Another benefit of having a younger woman with less experience: they don’t have much to compare it/you to, and you can be the “best they ever had” – til the next kegger, that is. Then you are just “that old dude who cried after ejaculation.”
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John Smith said:
I disagree. Look at Janice Dickinson for example. Her plastic surgery does not make her look young, it just makes her look old but disfigured.
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“i like my man because he smells nice, and vice verca.
i’ve read that’s all we need to make our relationship work”
Yeah, and when you like the way you smell on them and vice versa.
It’s kind of a killer when your hands don’t fit together.
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There are a million explanations for this, but I feel that women in other countries try harder, and for longer, to maintain their good looks
No, you didn’t read what he wrote. The women were about the same height and weight, and almost all of the differences described for the older woman had no logical connection to hygiene, diet, or exercise. Aging affects every aspect of physical appearance, there is no cure for it, and many “cures” that science has offered can make things look even worse.
Men look worse with age too, arguably with an identical slope (gay men seem to think so). Unfortunately men increase in mate value with age in the attractiveness domains that are most important to women: money and status. So men increase in mate value with age, while women drop off rapidly.
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Not to argue that things aren’t different elsewhere in some important respects, but the decline with age can’t be brushed aside as a social construction.
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What a horrible cruel joke of the universe is the brief window of a woman’s beauty. Proof, as if any was needed, that god does not exist.
To the contrary. It’s proof that there is a God, and that He likes us to have humility.
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you are an idiot.
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Who, me?
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Men’s increase in mate value is only made possible by the fact that they are still able to father children past the age of 45 – at least in theory, if not always in practise. Not much point in marrying status and money for the sake of your children if the man you marry isn’t capable of performing his marital duty.
Not to mention the fact, as I’ve noted on your blog, that us men have this pesky little habit of giving up the ghost at comparatively young ages.
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Not much point in marrying status and money for the sake of your children if the man you marry isn’t capable of performing his marital duty.
You are confusing what sexually arouses a woman for the evolutionary reason such cues turns them on.
It’s not like men want to sleep with 20 year olds instead of 60 year olds because the former can make babies. They don’t want babies they want what is causing them to be sexually aroused.
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This post fucking depresses me :*(
Indeed, there is no God
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No, Rain And, I’m not confused. Those women who marry older men are not necessarily as aroused as you think by a man’s money and status as such, though I don’t deny that they can matter. The plain truth is that for most women babies matter more than men do, so that if these men couldn’t deliver the goods, there might be sex, but there would be no marriage. Just like when a man of 25 pursues a woman of 40 (and some of them do, and they aren’t all betas, either).
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There are things that older women offer other than sexual experience, which I agree is over-rated. That can be an ability to appeal to a man on an emotional or an erotic level that doesns’t rely on mere good looks. A “mysterious older woman” or “Mrs. Robinson” effect.
Some patrons of prostitutes like slightly older ones, as they are better at GFE, a much-sought thing by lonely guys.
Also, one’s wife, if the match is right, becomes a companion who is valued more, and not less, as she years go by and the couple bonds.
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Fuck all this old lady, old dude noise!
The only thing that matters is dropping the legal age to 16 ’cause I’m brushing up on my Hannah Montana and its got to be put to good use.
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41 PA. I had no idea what GFE meant, so I looked it up:
“The “girlfriend experience” (commonly known as GFE) is a type of service a prostitute offers which includes acting like a girlfriend to the client.
This generally involves more intimate sex than a traditional call girl offers, and may include kissing and/or french kissing, cuddling, and foreplay. By contrast, many prostitutes refrain from kissing for fear of contracting herpes or because they see it as a more emotionally intimate activity than sexual intercourse without kissing.
A call girl advertising provision of a “girlfriend experience” is implying that she kisses, provides a more enjoyable “full service” (intercourse) experience, and does not necessarily as strictly limit her service by time and/or ejaculation as many prostitutes do.”
I had no idea that slightly older woman (prostitutes) would be better at showing affection. I can say that with age, I generally feel more affection for people in general.
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I disagree. Look at Janice Dickinson for example. Her plastic surgery does not make her look young, it just makes her look old but disfigured.
Never heard of her. As compared to the tons of celebrity milfs out there that would be mediocre if not for the gift of technology.
Still a long way for the technique to be perfected, but all I’m saying is that as science conquers aging, all of this physical stuff decreases in importance.
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No, Rain And, I’m not confused. Those women who marry older men are not necessarily as aroused as you think by a man’s money and status as such, though I don’t deny that they can matter.
Can we at least agree that women put more emphasis on money and status, while men put more emphasis on youth and beauty? Take Mick Jagger — old and craggy like Mt. Rushmore, but his fame and fortune essentially gives him his pick of models in their twenties. Meanwhile, how many male groupies does Aretha Franklin — likewise old and unattractive — have, even as fantastically talented as she is? Very, very few, comparatively.
Men simply don’t care as much as women about the status and resources of their partners. They care about looks, which are mostly a function of age.
The plain truth is that for most women babies matter more than men do, so that if these men couldn’t deliver the goods, there might be sex, but there would be no marriage.
It’s not just a powerful man’s babies that women want, biologically speaking; they also want these babies taken care of so that they can reproduce themselves. Hence the attraction to men with power and resources: the odds of an offspring’s survival are greatly increased when they have access to plentiful food, shelter, and Cadillac Escalades. Also, a rich, powerful man can provide more for the woman herself so she can devote more energy to child-rearing.
That’s the ev-psych theory anyway, I think. The reality is always more complex — something that often gets overlooked on this blog — but it does provide a useful baseline for understanding mating behavior.
Just like when a man of 25 pursues a woman of 40 (and some of them do, and they aren’t all betas, either).
Men pursue women they find physically attractive. It just so happens that age is usually the biggest factor in that attractiveness. If a woman is able to maintain her looks as she gets older, she’ll be in good shape to attract men.
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It seems the 32 year old had lost her instinctual ability to detect evil.
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They are plastic surgery skanks.
No, they’re hot women. I suspect that the jealousy talking. 🙂
I disagree. Look at Janice Dickinson for example. Her plastic surgery does not make her look young, it just makes her look old but disfigured.
I’d rather bang Janice Dickinson than any of the 18-24 year old girls at work.
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“The “girlfriend experience” (commonly known as GFE) is a type of service a prostitute offers which includes acting like a girlfriend to the client.
This generally involves more intimate sex than a traditional call girl offers, and may include kissing and/or french kissing, cuddling, and foreplay.
Gross, at least the kissing and especially French kissing part.
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By contrast, many prostitutes refrain from kissing for fear of contracting herpes or because they see it as a more emotionally intimate activity than sexual intercourse without kissing.
Wait, the prostitutes are the ones afraid of contracting STDs from their Johns? That seems backwards.
Plus, I’ve never bought the “kissing is more intimate than sex” thing. If that were true, fucking on the first date wouldn’t be a big deal, but kissing would be relegated to date three. Me, I think it’s just an easy way for prostitutes to charge a premium for a service that isn’t really that special. But hey, I could be wrong.
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^ You’re right to complain, there ought to be some END to it!
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spot on.
and yes Shannon, you’re soon to be an amorphous blob. Sorry.
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“What a horrible cruel joke of the universe is the brief window of a woman’s beauty. Proof, as if any was needed, that god does not exist.” LOL. Only YOU could link this oh so randomly to Godlessness.
Not at all. It’s not that brief, it’s just that developed countries raise the legal ages too high! Once, women were married off at 16 and a 23 year old was a spinster.
So I better catch me a husband before I reach my mid 20s. Just in order to make sure he’s good quality goods, I better lift weights as well.
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Re: plastic surgery — it helps, but not much, unless you require massive amounts (like going from fat to thin). But the techniques improve so often, so maybe they do have ways of making all of the body’s skin firmer and tighter, not just on the face.
One thing plastic surgery won’t help is what’s inside, and that’s what really makes the 21 y.o. a dream to be around: her overflowing, unrehearsed girly charm. Older women don’t smile and laugh as much, and those sights and sounds are some of the reasons that make life worth living — especially when they are a reflex to what you’re doing. Making girls giggle always cheers me up if I’m down.
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“it helps, but not much, unless you require massive amounts”
That’s why Michael Jackson looks so great.
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Let me see if I can add something to this. He is naturally practicing his usual ‘flaming’ tactics to provoke discussion, not that he doesn’t in fact feel this way about older women, and as usual there’s another side to this. The proverbial “older woman” side. Being that I can only really speak for myself, I’ll say that when much younger men hit on me, #1: I’m not interested in having sex with them. #2: I talk them out of wanting to have sex with me. The whole idea is a bit creepy actually. I tell them, “I may look much younger in these dim lights, but trust me, my body is the body of a 54 year old woman!”
Many women my age are upset about aging, but personally if I had to give up what I learned yesterday to have my 20 something body back, I WOULD NOT DO IT!! I’ve had enough great sexual experiences that I don’t inappropriately hanker for sex, just for the sake of sex. It just means something entirely different to me now. I have no illusions about ‘competing’ with 20 year olds. That would be so stupid.
I’m aware that even though I’m great looking ‘for my age’, that there is no way in hell I’m going to appeal to much younger men, nor do I want to. On the other hand, my secretary is marrying a man 14 years younger than her in April, so who knows?
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Ahhhhh the dreaded “skinny fat”! It’s not just a phenomenon associated with age in women, it is just more physically visible in them. A combination of no physical activity and pour diet can leave that 20 year old muse as squishy as a ziploc full of cream corn. The skin hasn’t deteriorated yet, but the insides have turned to mush.
A classic case of a lazy girl that thinks if she just doesn’t eat, she will have a nice body. For christ’s sake girls, stop watching The Hills for a minute and run the fuck up one for a change.
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PS Lemmonex,
Although that was absolutely a hilarious comment, I must point out that you used the wrong spelling for the slang word for ejaculation. It is cum, not come. Years of porn has schooled me in proper grammar.
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When I think of an archetypal femme fatale seductress in film or literature, I imagine a tall, dark haired smouldering woman as old as 45, rather than a young pixie.
Yeah, but most guys who have fantasies about femme fatale types — just search YouTube or porn sites for these things, and see what guys participate — are weirdo losers, and are not very manly or active. They want the woman to seduce them, do most of the work, etc., while they remain frozen, transfixed by her coolness.
Damn girl-haters.
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replacementbrain: I thank you for the correction. Noted.
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“So men increase in mate value with age, while women drop off rapidly.”
Well, sort of. Men’s increase in mate value is only made possible by the fact that they are still able to father children past the age of 45 – at least in theory, if not always in practise. Not much point in marrying status and money for the sake of your children if the man you marry isn’t capable of performing his marital duty.
And the advantage doesn’t really last forever. Warren Beatty married the 35-year-old Annette Bening, not a 22-year-old college student. Pierre Trudeau managed to marry a pretty co-ed of that age when he was in his 50s (an Eternal Ingenue, if you’ve read my blog), but she had what he calls Daddy issues, and she was more than a little crazy, poor dear. Hugh Hefner still pulls them in, but his girls are no longer pretty girl-next-door types with natural youthful beauty. They are plastic surgery skanks.
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Or is he the idiot? I’m confused! Though, must say, while I meet a lot of damn fools around here, I rarely encounter an idiot.
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To all 30+ year old women – If you want to stay in the game and compete with the younger competition, lift weights regularly
BTW, as much as I have disagreed with the rest of this posting you are completely correct about women and weight training.
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Man, tell me more about your workplace
It’s a call centre, most of the younger employees are black, but there are temporary white college students who come in every so often. IMHO, while nobody is particularily ugly, Janice Dickinson has the porn starish look that many of the younger females at work just don’t have regardless of their race. She’s hot, thye’re just “cute”.
They want the woman to seduce them, do most of the work, etc., while they remain frozen, transfixed by her coolness.
Damn girl-haters.
Why do all the work when you can sit down and stumble into hot sex? OTOH, I am a weirdo loser isn’t really manly and I spend all day in front of a computer, so I do qualify as inactive…
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” Years of porn has schooled me in proper grammar. ” I never thought I would see this sentence in my lifetime. Hilarious.
Legal age in the UK is 16. Interestingly enough, just for sex, not for marriage (your ‘guardians’ must consent to it if you wish to marry).
The irony about a high age of consent is that, with the lack of censorship, they’re learning about these things earlier and earlier. Innocence starts to look less like ignorance and more like stupidity…
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Although that was absolutely a hilarious comment, I must point out that you used the wrong spelling for the slang word for ejaculation. It is cum, not come.
AIUI, “come” is the verb and “cum” is the noun.
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My Scottish friends mother left her with a saying. When men would complain about a certain woman’s looks, she would say “Look, you’re no oil painting yourself.” It’s amazing what standards we can have for others.
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43: it probably makes sense that older women (prostitutes or otehrwise) have better honed people-reding skills and know better how to zero in on whatever idiosyncratic needs a man might have.
When I think of an archetypal femme fatale seductress in film or literature, I imagine a tall, dark haired smouldering woman as old as 45, rather than a young pixie.
Of course, none of this is meant to contradict what he is saying about the sensory appeal of a young girl. “Faint whiff of baby powder” is a particularly evocative and true observation.
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What I mean by ‘evil’? Evil is a completely subjective term. Basically we all define ‘evil’ as ‘anything unwanted’ by us personally. The degree of unwanting determines the degree of evil. I doubt very much the 32 year old would have wanted to engage in the sex act with a man who would later describe her as follows:
“There is nothing more… deflating… than squeezing a chunk of ass meat only to pull away with folds of loose skin in your hand. Even her pussy looked older; the lips more floppy and bedraggled, the color a washed-out hue.”
This would be one of those cases where looking back, she would realize there was something extremely unsavory about him. But instead, at one fateful moment in time, they were made for each other.
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^ what goes around, comes around? Ouch.
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A must have for the modern incontinent woman on-the-go:
http://www.urinelle.biz/
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It can be spelled “come” OR “cum,” both are valid. Believe it or not, “come” even appears in some dictionaries with the orgasm definition.
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“I’d rather bang Janice Dickinson than any of the 18-24 year old girls at work.”
Man, tell me more about your workplace. But he’s right, this is one of his best posts. Men are designed by nature to fuck young, fertile women. That’s from 14-27. Women are like flowers, soul enriching, but wither incredibly fast, and no, plastic surgery doesn’t help. There is nothing as satisfying than to make love to a beautiful 16-19 year old women, with a perfect soft skin, cute face and full of estrogen. Diet and sports can give women another 5 years (Argentinian women at 30 probably look five years younger than their US counterparts, but that’s it).
Since you love trains DA I would say that women miss the train at around 25, and men start losing the train at around 40. Between 30-40 a man if he has enough man can attract young women, but past 40, specially 45 man are perceived by women as too old to father their children.
I would say man have around 15 more years in the dating market, maybe as much as 20.
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How old are you? If men lose the train around 40, I think doom looms right around the corner. I would like to assess your ability in bed and the firmness of your body solely based on your age. I suspect you need a finger up your ass to come and always want the girl on top.
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David Alexander, this is the precursor to the future. The actual ‘bots won’t be like the starfishes in this video. Let’s hear it for the future…sexbot HAREMS!
http://vidmax.com/index.php/videos/view/5301
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you have a heart?
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lemmon-sex:
I suspect you need a finger up your ass to come and always want the girl on top.
is this an invitation? 😉
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Are we seriously discussing porno grammar? I love you guys.
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As far as lifting weights go, women should never do heavy weight training, but more use small weights to tone. A woman with too much muscle definition looks strange.
Sit-ups, squats, and stretches will help keep the body lithe. Alternating running sessions with these exercises is pretty standard in most women’s workout routines anyway.
Working out also pumps endorphins straight into one’s brain. That post work-out high is excellent and wards off depression. Regular exercise also delays brain aging processes.
Sun exposure is a big killer of skin texture. I avoid the sun like the plague (being a nerd helps). Heavy makeup, smoking, alcohol or drug abuse will make a woman look older in her 30s, too.
PA is also right on about companionship and long-time good wives (and husbands) becoming more valuable as time goes on. Nothing can replace that bond… it’s like heaven. 🙂
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I disagree, a woman should lift hard and strong. She won’t necessarily look too muscular unless she ingests a lot of protein and lets her body fat percentage drop too low. The problem with women is that they get so scared of gaining muscle that they end up pussyfooting too much in the gym and doing yoga stretches and running all day, which can only do so much. Pump the weight. And read some books so that you can learn what actually makes you too muscular and what doesn’t. The book “Cardio Free Diet” I’d highly recommend to aging women who want to offset their slowing metabolism.
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Cardio exercise can work as a weight loss tool, but the real trouble is not the hunger it can bring, it’s the exhaustion. Cardio-exercise enough to lose weight and you’ll wear yourself out, plus it usually takes a long time. The best machine I ever found for delivering weight loss results was the old style elliptical trainers – the kind that don’t shut down when you slow down.
I used to turn the resistance all the way up to 20 and use it, very slowly (all I could manage), for an hour. The calorie counter said I was burning 1,000 calories a session that way – which sounds unreal, but when I worked out every day for a week like that, to fit into a skirt for my brother’s wedding, I lost 7 pounds without dieting at all, so it must have been fairly accurate. It was tiring, but not too bad – and I wasn’t exactly super-fit or anything.
But weights are probably better for body-shaping.
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The problem with women is that they get so scared of gaining muscle that they end up pussyfooting too much in the gym and doing yoga stretches and running all day, which can only do so much.
It’s not that I’m scared of gaining muscle. Muscles are great, and they burn fat while you’re idle. A little bit is just fine. But too much upper arm muscle makes a woman look bulkier and less feminine. I have a man around to do the heavy lifting for me anyway. I work my arms with 5lb weights. Leg and thigh muscle overkill is great though, and I love the hard abs that come with sit-ups.
Only lifting weights is not conducive to overall body fitness either. What is ideal (at least from what I’ve read) is to do combinations — the stretches, running, sit-ups, squats, weights and dance routines all help. Men can do this, too… run one day, weight lift/stretch next day, etc.
Running helps muscle gain in lower legs as opposed to squats which build muscle in the thighs.
Cardio exercise can work as a weight loss tool, but the real trouble is not the hunger it can bring, it’s the exhaustion. Cardio-exercise enough to lose weight and you’ll wear yourself out, plus it usually takes a long time.
The exhaustion is part of the fun. Sprinting doesn’t take a long time either. Run for 15 minutes (about a mile and half) mixed with some brisk walking, and it takes less time than other aerobics. For some minutes afterwards you’re tired, but then for hours after that your body goes into overdrive and nearly an euphoric state of cooling. This relieves stress and gets serotonin flowing to your brain.
Also the endurance building from long-term cardio is invaluable. I can walk 5 miles without a problem. I’m no marathon runner, though I hear that wreaks havoc on a person’s body so I’m not too enthusiastic about distance training.
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This is all SUPER retarded. I’m 30, so yes, I am “OLD”.
However, I probably look younger than most my age. I look at the guys my age, and generally speaking… they just look WEATHERED. So what is this about men aging into a “distinguishness.” YAWN. I prefer to stay with the 25 year olds. (That is my sweet spot.) -And I have NO problem attracting them! A big plus about the guys being 5-6 years younger is that they (most of the time) want to show me that they are “worthy” and pull out all their bells and whistles.
There are good looking 30 something guys, but most of them are in Hollywood. Guys seem to think that they don’t age. (Or that it’s OK if they do.) Hence don’t use sun screen etc… and as a result wrinkle sooner, not to mention…. sunspots. (aka AGESPOTS ..yuk!)
-No, let me have the lithe, lean muscle, smooth skin abercrombie looking 25 yr olds…
In conclusion: GUYS YOU ARE NOT INVINCIBLE
As a side note, ironically, when I was younger, I didn’t mind 30 somethings… -but I haven’t dated one since I was 22.
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No, Rain And, I’m not confused either. No shit that as you get older you’ll look worse, that’s a universal truth. What I meant is that in the US, women don’t give a shit about their looks half as much as some women in other countries, so when US women age, they look much, much worse at an earlier age, while foreign women don’t look half as bad.
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funny bit.
misguided expectations are a problem with men but particularly women in america.
you aren’t special, you won’t be a star, you won’t do better than all your pals.
instead of worrying about being the star of a teen lifestyle movie women should simply focus on what
they can do to make their own lives much better.
kids and a happy familly will make any woman happier than all the hand bags and tiny dogs in the world, but they don’t seem to realize this. chasing a bigger better deal won’t pay out in the end unless you get it, and chances are you won’t.
as far as being happy, i’m not talking about being a solipistic fat person, i mean take care of your own. he makes a great point abut lifting weights. if you don’t workout out, you will look and feel like shit. the question is how bad and by when.
smoking, late night partying, coke and sunlight will fuck up your face. the funny (sad) thing is so many girls who could be so much happier in the long run just chase away ages 22-30 by getting tans, cocktails, coke, late nights, and not really paying the best attention to their working out or diet.
imo if a woman doesn’t exercise hard and with disciplin for at least 5+ years before having a kid she won’t be able to make the change and put in the work to ever get her body back. athletic women who put in the work can have kids and bounce back very well.
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I’m sorry guys, I have to revert to my earlier statement about porn teaching me to spell. I don’t care if it’s in Oxford’s English Dictionary. Cum is Cum, or Cumming or Cummed. If you don’t believe me, go to any porn site and look at the category titles.
Have you guys ever seen one called “Coming”???? NO.
You need to spend more time with fake internet girls like I do. You have too much contact with real girls if you are reading dictionaries.
Like for example I wouldn’t hit on Lemmonex if she wasn’t just a digital picture to me. Yes, I was making a pass love. 😉
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The age of consent in DC is 16; just don’t take her across state lines into Virginia.
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Vampires, do watch out for the vitamin D deficiencies and compensate in your diets at least…
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What a fantastic post. The truth hurts.
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“A woman who’s over 30 could still get a nice husband in his mid-40s, so it’s not too late. Just stop going out”
now how in the hell can a woman still get a nice husband by not leaving the house?? start looking up the single men in her apartment? date via internet? we got a logistics problem here
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Provocateur says, “I doubt very much the 32 year old would have wanted to engage in the sex act with a man who would later describe her as follows:”
Well, that’s one of the dangers of relations with a writer. If you screw up, the world may not know your name, but they’ll know how it was.
At least he didn’t compare her, by virtue of having shagged him, to a paranecrophile so desperate to maintain an illusion of being in the game, that she actually enjoyed sex with a guy who just as soon would have done it with remote controlled robotic arms from across the room, were it possible.
:: looking innocent ::
:: failing miserably at it ::
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Darn,
Even a 32-yo has these limitations. Imagine a woman who is, say, 36. Sheesh.
This is bad for women AND men. Men would be happier too if women retained it for more years than they currently do.
How is it that men ever manage to marry? How can a man, even if he is 50 himself, possibly bring himself to have sex with a 48-year-old woman who has had both of their kids already?
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You describe an acceptable lay well but that’s light-years off a great woman in bed…it might not be rocket science as it cannot be easily studied from book but it does make a huge difference and the hottest ones are truly worth it.
My feeling is that women are on average better in bed at 30 than at 20, as is the case for men too.
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There is some truth in what you say, but genetics also plays a role.
There are plenty of older women who are more beautiful than younger women.
In addition, older women have the benefit of a less degenerate upbringing than today’s females.
Age also gives the benefit of humbling extremely beautiful women, and by the time they’re in their thirties, an average guy has a better shot with them than he did when they were teenagers or in their early twenties. So you can still bag the superior genetics. 😀
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“Nothing is a bigger turn-off than a woman giving you directions in bed on how to please her sexually”
Every woman’s body is unique and reacts in different ways to different stimulai/techniques. If she doesn’t tell you what turns her on, how will you ever know – and how will you ever turn her on?
I never understood why some men are so scared of women knowing what they want and where they want it.
It can only result in better sex for the both of us.
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Watch Shakira’s video “Loba” and tell me you’d rather hit an “out of shape 21 year old” than her:
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“Since you love trains DA I would say that women miss the train at around 25, and men start losing the train at around 40. Between 30-40 a man if he has enough man can attract young women, but past 40, specially 45 man are perceived by women as too old to father their children.
I would say man have around 15 more years in the dating market, maybe as much as 20.”
Wrong! Men keep increasing in value as long as their bank account and social status keeps increasing.
“Guys seem to think that they don’t age. (Or that it’s OK if they do.) Hence don’t use sun screen etc… and as a result wrinkle sooner, not to mention…. sunspots. (aka AGESPOTS ..yuk!)
-No, let me have the lithe, lean muscle, smooth skin abercrombie looking 25 yr olds…
In conclusion: GUYS YOU ARE NOT INVINCIBLE
As a side note, ironically, when I was younger, I didn’t mind 30 somethings… -but I haven’t dated one since I was 22.”
So those guys who are now in their late 30’s early 40’s are off boning the new 22 year olds while you pick up the 25 year olds? Those poor men!
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“Her labia possessed the springiness of a marine’s cot.”
Pure poetry. Bravo.
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I just fucked a smoking 25 year old a few weeks ago (I’m 41). Great body. Beautiful, shaved pussy. But bedroom skills were meh. She needs to watch more porn.
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“What a horrible cruel joke of the universe is the brief window of a woman’s beauty. Proof, as if any was needed, that god does not exist.”
God does not exist for hedonists, but it’s the hedonists that pass away, not God.
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Moral of this post:
What a horrible cruel joke of the universe is the brief window of a woman’s beauty. Proof, as if any was needed, that god does not exist.
I would say God does exist and teaches us all lessons that some learn from and others do not. If a young woman did not look like she did, men would not want to have sex with her and there would be no urge to engage in the procreative process….if young attractive women did not affect us they way their bodies do, men would not want to have anything to do with them….God made women look the way they do to ensure that the human race procreates.
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