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well ok, but the right-hand picture – which looks like half wax-museum figure and half lamprey – doesn’t do much for the pulchritude of youth, either.
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Give Bardot a break, she’s 73 years old. Here is what the average man looks like at age 73.
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This is a poster argument for joining the Methuselah Foundation and helping us to cure aging in the next few decades. Some links for you guys:
http://www.mfoundation.org/sens
http://www.lef.org
Perhaps everyone here should join the “300”.
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gilf?
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if thats a GILF then ill stick to masturbating with my other hand
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Yes, Bardot is 73. And she’s raising hell with French Muslims for their animal-butchery practises. You’ve got to admit that that is an example of a “celebrity” showing real courage, for once.
I suspect that one of the reasons her face has suffered so badly is that she spent far too much time in the sun in her youth. Catherine Deneuve isn’t much younger than Bardot but has aged much better because she didn’t bake. Oh, and she has a face better designed for aging well. Baby-faces tend not to; aquiline features look better longer.
Johnny 5: just one more example of the way tastes and standards of beauty vary both over time and from one man to another.
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I suspect that one of the reasons her face has suffered so badly is that she spent far too much time in the sun in her youth.
any justification for sleeping all day and staying awake all night is excellent.
“aquiline”! i’m nonplussed.
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Ewwwww….
Now I won’t be able to eat dinner.
Thanks for ruining my day.
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She has great dignity in her eyes, and no need for plastic surgery. Good for her. I seriously doubt she gives two shits about what any of you boys think of her. Being sexually attractive, believe it or not, it not the epitome of human existence. Sometimes I can hardly believe the shallowness of you guys and you know who you are.
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Anyway, Bardot must have had her fill of sexual attention in her youth. She always said she found animals to be more reliable companions.
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clio:
That statement and this website’s constant hammering of a biological justification for being a cad brings to mind a quote by Dostoevsky in The Brothers Karamazov.
“People talk sometimes of a bestial cruelty, but that’s a great injustice and insult to the beasts; a beast can never be so cruel as a man, so artistically cruel.”
Not that I’m a dizzy or David Alexander. I’m much too jaded to think that this is a new development in mankind. There was and always will be Roissys (Rossies?); the great reaver-kings of love and sex. Hell, I’m friends with a couple of ’em. They’re entertaining.
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This is a lazy, worthless post; below your usual standard, which is why I visit.
I second Clio’s point – as someone standing strong against p.c. censorship, Bardot is a kindred spirit of yours, Roissy. She deserves better than to be the target of your none-too-original observation as to the ravages of old age.
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I hope and trust that most of the men who post here are not nearly as caddish in real life as they are on this blog. Perhaps that’s naive of me, but there you are. I don’t mind so much when they go on about nasty things women do to them, or about the lunacies of political correctness, but it does bother me a little when they get mean about things women can’t help, like being old or unattractive. After all, it’s not as if anyone is forcing them to date these women. But women themselves appear to have grown crueller than I can remember them being when I was younger, so perhaps that’s the reason for it. I don’t know.
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what??? i think shes hot…
im with nanybooboo…at least she isnt pulled too tight and full of botox..that is way worse…
xoxo
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“But women themselves appear to have grown crueller than I can remember them being when I was younger, so perhaps that’s the reason for it”
You’re showing mercy on the merciless. Someone has to, I suppose.
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clio:
I think your intuition is right. I also doubt most people here are mirrors of their online persona. I’ve been online since 1993, and seen enough people and communities to sort of instinctively get what sort of person is underneath the cultivated persona. It’s why I lurk mostly now. You learn a lot more about folks by watching and occaisionally pitching in a bland calculated response than actively taking part in an online community.
While most here ain’t as big as cads as they seem to be online, I would say most of them aren’t putting forth something that they’re explicitly not in real life. Most of them are players to a greater or lesser extent. Only a couple folks really ring false to me, though one of them even doesn’t realize it himself. (I’m leaving out trolls in this calculus.)
As for being cruel to the old, it just strikes me as a sort of whistling past the graveyard. One day all of us will be wrinkly and saggy and decrecipt. No magic biological bullet will defeat the simple physics of entropy forever. We eventually will be unattractive and the beautiful young things content in the eternal now of youth will mock us for our ugliness and slowness and cluelessness as we smile ingratiatingly at them. They will say “It will be different for us, we know better and won’t be like those old fools grasping at straws.”
It’s all so very funny to me to watch the folly of man repeat itself anew ten million times over.
Now for the rise of latter day cruelty, I doubt that’s actually changed all that much. Young men and women have always been the most exquisitely cruel of any age in history. It’s just as we age, the past takes on a sort of halcyon sheen where we were better than those now. If anything, the only thing that’s changed in my eyes is that the tech induced ADD of the younger generation has removed most of the subtlety behind a lot of cruelty. It’s so much more direct and to the point now.
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Christ, I sound a lot older than 29.
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but it does bother me a little when they get mean about things women can’t help, like being old or unattractive.
It never bothers anyone when we pick on guys who are losers through no fault of their own (a recurrent theme here). Maybe you’re saying that it’s bad manners to pick on girls specifically, just like we don’t hit girls but can hit guys.
This is a lazy, worthless post; below your usual standard, which is why I visit.
Then either pay him, so he has an incentive to churn out quality all the time, or stop whining.
Or you could start your own blog, one that never has down time, and then we can all go hang out at your place.
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If you want to be with one person for a long time, they will get older and they will look different. You not being able to handle that is your problem, not the woman’s. Stay with the young girls. It’s your life. But don’t act like women who get older have somehow failed. It’s you who can’t handle reality.
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(I’m the guy who commented as Wants Better Posts. I like this handle better so I’m changing horses.)
Then either pay him, so he has an incentive to churn out quality all the time, or stop whining.
Good point, Agnostic. The post angered me, and in my anger I neglected to mention that Roissy has generously provided me with high-quality entertainment free of charge, and for that I am thankful.
What frustrates me about this post is that it tars by association the reality-based thoughtcrime – spiced up by a rapier wit – that makes this blog highly worthy. In picking on an old lady for no good reason, Roissy lends credence to his detractors’ assertions, in not so many words, that he is simply a mean-spirited pedant. His better posts argue otherwise, but one like this, which is simultaneously lazy and mean of spirit, gives too much aid and comfort to the Dizzys of cyberspace.
Or you could start your own blog, one that never has down time, and then we can all go hang out at your place.
This isn’t such a good point. You’re saying that by not blogging I’ve disqualified myself from criticizing those who do, which is curious logic. You’re not a U.S. Senator, I trust, but on that count you don’t deny yourself the position to evaluate those Senators running for President.
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It does bother me when specific men get picked on here, but Roissy’s picking on men is usually not directed as much at specific ones, so I don’t feel compelled to speak out in their defense. The fellow in the odd clothes from the other day was a bit of an exception to this general observation of mine – but clothes are indeed something you can “help”, and anyone trying so hard to make an impression has got to be prepared for the possibility of failure.
Incidentally, I just started a series on “nice men” at my blog, to keep me from dwelling on those who are not nice, and remind me of encounters with those who are.
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18 dizzy8
Once again you are a lone voice of reason in the wilderness.
And Spike Game? Give yourself a break, man. The difference is your maturity is in sync with your age and roissy is holding steady at 16.
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Bardot is a kindred spirit of yours, Roissy. She deserves better …
Agreed. It would have been better to show Jane Fonda or even Gloria Steinem instead, who was OK looking when young. Hell, even Elizabeth Taylor.
Bardot is a hero.
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I agree that Bardot was a poor choice of a target. But the pics do make a point.
Anyway, Bardot has actually put herself in physical danger by speaking out against France’s Muslims. She basically wrote a letter, got accused of “hate speech” and now may be fined. This is her fourth offense. Read about it here:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/04/16/wbardot116.xml
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People get old then die. Big fucking deal.
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What ‘point’ do these pictures make DOBA?
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His point is that women are depreciating assets. Read and learn:
http://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/10/09/the-economics-of-gold-digging/
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People get old then die.
What about me?
Signed,
Elvis
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Anyone else get red X’s?
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TSM:
Anyone else get red X’s?
Yeah, but penicillin’ll clear that right up.
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barbie is not immune either…. and she was plastic to begin with:
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27 DOBA
Women who have only their looks and the status it offers men to offer, are just at essentially worthless as players who only have their dicks to offer.
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OK, the question is would you put up with what she looks like in the top pic, when you’re old, if you could have her in the bottom pic, when you’re both young, and I say, go for it. Just make sure you have lots of time out playing checkers and dominoes with the guys, when you’re old. Or a good plastic surgeon to send her to!
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Sean Connery and his wife then:
and now:
They look just as happy and relaxed as Harrison Ford and Calista Flockhart, if not more so. It’s what it feels like with your mate, more than looks like, but if looks and status is of such paramount importance, you’re not ever really going to feel that good.
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the great reaver-kings of love and sex.
Roissy is a great king of sex and love? Oh, please. No such person would be A) writing a blog, or B) so consumed by bitterness and insecurity about women. Hang out around a true natural sometime, it’s instructive.
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What did her mother look like?
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Bardot is awesome, and, seriously, fuck France for that totalitarian bullshit.
Bardot seems to have aged badly given her baseline attractiveness, and interestingly enough her appearance didn’t really decline so much between 50 and 75(ish). Her appearance declined dramatically between ages 35 and 50 – or 15 short years.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/showbiz/showbiznews.html?in_article_id=484323&in_page_id=1773
An old man without an old wife whom he feels attached and emotionally connected to, might do better to seek out a very ugly woman (3 and under) in her 20s than an above average woman of 60 or over.
That much-debated chick in the ‘visualizing beta’ thread wasn’t the hottest in the world, but at least her neck isn’t a scrotum. I’ll bet a 80 year old me would be pretty excited to jump on some of that.
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obviously a woman’s looks are a depreciating asset; those of us with iq’s over 70 don’t need visual aids to prove the point. but in many women of days gone by, that physical beauty was succeeded by a quiet, feminine, confident dignity that earned the title ‘lady’, and spurred even the most alpha of men, perhaps especially the most alpha of men, to acts of chivalry.
unfortunately, although i still meet them on occasion, such ladies are now largely an anachronism. if and when i find such a lady in my own demographic – unlikely enough already, but especially because i invariably look in all the wrong places – i will stay staunchly loyal to her, regardless of the damage wrought on her face by the slow burn that is aging.
until then, of course, i will continue to be a sexual Sisyphus, looking for the next rock of ephemeral pleasure to roll up the proverbial hill. after all, there are a hell of a lot of nicely curved rocks out there, and these days they can be tossed up the hill with minimal effort.
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that link was meant to be limited to ‘acts of chivalry’.
i can’t write html when i’m wasted, but i can sure as hell rock the mythological allusions.
happy 4/20 everyone.
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i think this is a good post.
roissy said nothing at all, just put up 2 photos.
the fact that all these people jumped to attack roissy and defend the old woman is telling.
mortality is a bitch, but it works towards men (in the sense that their status and wealth is increasing over time) and against women (as they go from prime and the boss fo men in their lives to shit pretty quickly and over time dramatically).
women do age much worse than men (and men can use testerone replacement and exercise to stay attractive to younger women, while women can do very little). more women should take better care of themsleves, exercise, eating well, sleeping enough, not drinking to excess, not smoking and avoiding the sun could help women stay pretty much longer.
the reactions above says a little bit about dating and the “game” and such.
i really think american women are hurting themselves long term by trying to live a party girl life as a young woman at the expense of of their future.
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mortality is a bitch, but it works towards men (in the sense that their status and wealth is increasing over time) and against women (as they go from prime and the boss of men in their lives to shit pretty quickly and over time dramatically).
women do age much worse than men (and men can use testerone replacement and exercise to stay attractive to younger women, while women can do very little)
You’re forgetting the inconvenient fact that the average man finds himself stinking up a coffin a full seven years earlier than the average woman.
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so what?
the important point is that women go down hill fairly soon and quickly. “the game” approaches towards party girls and such is effective because of the choices these girls make wrt men. i think most women are clearly making the wrong choices as they end up used up and without the advantage that they staked their lives on.
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I’m pretty sure Roissy is a real deal, but many commenters are chortling Beavises.
Yeah, 73-year-old women look old. But for some reason, sometimes their 83-year-old-husbands love them anyway.
I guess you think your grandma or your mom is disgusting and worthless too.
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40 Peter
“You’re forgetting the inconvenient fact that the average man finds himself stinking up a coffin a full seven years earlier than the average woman.”
Contrary to what roissy needs to believe, men are the weaker sex period. He, like so many men, are obsessed with gaining SOME kind of advantage to make up for their statistically proven weakness in just about every area. The sexual superiority of women is the most threatening of all, hence the constant focus on sexual control and the ensuing chaos.
As a woman, I must say it gets really old. In reality masculine and feminine aspects are of equal value, so neither should feel threatened. Looking only at health and mortality misses the point.
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See “Keeping your woman in line.” for details. Yawn.
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this post was a friendly reminder that vapid platitudes have zero truth content in the face of reality.
bardot’s disintegration was not an excuse to gloat. it made me sad. very sad.
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French women go to hell pretty quickly as they age. A female friend there said it was the sun, the smoking and the effect of the language on facial muscles/skin (believe it or not).
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What makes this sadder is her fellow sex symbol, the goddess Sophia, STILL looks fairly good (see the red dress scene in Grumpier Old Men or lingerie scene in Pret-a-Porter). Sophia was born 9/20/34, Bardot 9/28/34; it must have been a really good year!
I don’t know how much work Sophia has had, but she still brings the wood.
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this post was a friendly reminder that vapid platitudes have zero truth content in the face of reality.
I would agree… if you take it by the yardstick by which you measure everything, Roissy. I really don’t think the person who coined that phrase meant that couples on their 50th anniversary would be looking forward to better sex than when they first were together, though, nor say that their physical beauty would mature as a brash claret can become more subdued. Perhaps what the quote is saying is that when the external pleasures wilt and fade away, something else less visible replaces it and provides comfort and joy in that time after the dew is off the rose but before the eternal darkness comes.
Granted, I would not care to see Bardot naked at her current age, but oh to have a meal and a long talk with her would be fascinating! I’d more prefer her social company to an 18 year old dullard, in fact it would be rather relaxing to be around interesting women with which there would be no sexual tension at all, just as a break every now and then.
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45 roissy
“bardot’s disintegration was not an excuse to gloat. it made me sad. very sad”
Your arrogance is palpable. Do you think she needs or wants your sympathy? I feel sad for you, not her! Sad because she’s lost her looks? I doubt she gives a shit, why should you? You are such a child.
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I love when roissy’s threads reach the 20+ post mark. Candy Cane / dizzy / nnbb69 just degenerates into making crazier and crazier statements for any attention. I bet she loves that little thrill she gets when roissy actually responds to her ravings. That’s what spurs her on to post and post and post.
C’mon nnbb69, tell us all about how you fuck in front of your daughter.
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50 Steve
“C’mon nnbb69, tell us all about how you fuck in front of your daughter.”
I’m in heaven.
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Thank God i Ate breakfast already
http://www.thankgodi.com
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“Young men and women have always been the most exquisitely cruel of any age in history.”
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Ah, no. In fact, it is probably true that young men and women are NEVER the most exquisitely cruel of any age in history.
Years lived is the gold standard for accumulating loss and bitterness… especially for women, as this picture shows.
And young men generally have less power than older men.
Of course, some times can be radically different from “normal”.
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Come on. Give the woman a break at age 73.
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