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Girls Love It When I Don’t Take Them Seriously

May 21, 2008 by CH

Girls… oh fuck even grown women… constantly test me. DC women are the worst in this department. You’re trying to have a normal human conversation with them and it’s one challenge after another, forever pushing limits and boundaries to see just how alpha you are under pressure. Most men get frustrated and leave to pay a visit to Mike’s Apartment, but I relish turning the tables on these soul-sucking succubi. No guts no glory hole.

I’ve found girls respond like Pavlovian dogs in heat when you don’t take their shit seriously. Anything they say to get under your skin can be skillfully turned into a reverse Jedi mind trick pressing their attraction buttons. The key is to take nothing they say at face value. I’ve mentioned this before — AMUSED MASTERY is the attitude you want to project. Everything she does is cute. All her shit tests are bratty outbursts. Her silly little opinions are adorable. She is there for you to tease and taunt and patronize. Condescend to her at will.

Refusing to take a girl seriously fills her with indignation… and horniness. She’ll chastise you while stroking your thigh lasciviously. They can’t help themselves! It’s almost like women are at battle with their own secret desires, begging you with their eyes to breach their armament and storm their castles.

Girl: “Do you have a problem with a tall girl wearing heels? I’m a very dominant woman and I like men who are more dominant than me.”
Me: “There’s a homeless guy down the street who’d be perfect for you. He’s never lost a staring contest.”

This is my life.

 

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  1. on May 21, 2008 at 4:03 pm Peter

    Girl: “I’m nicely shaved, the genuine Bald Eagle look.”

    Me: [sound of vomiting]

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  2. on May 21, 2008 at 4:07 pm sara

    This type of negging I find amusing/entertaining but not seductive, though I would never in a million years tell a man what I like and ask him what he thinks of that. It would turn him off. I’d much prefer it the other way. He tells me what he likes and asks me how I feel about it, which could be yea or nay. Could be very attractive depending on what he likes of course. I think, roissy, that this is an example of a woman acting masculine again.

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  3. on May 21, 2008 at 4:10 pm sara

    Peter, I’m with you 100%. Though not gay obviously, a bald mound would be very disturbing for ME to look at. In a five year old, yes, but a grown woman? Disturbing. The bush is sacred. Why? I don’t know, but I can feel the truth of it. ^_^ Good luck in your quest for the perfect downy bush.

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  4. on May 21, 2008 at 4:53 pm Peter

    Peter, I’m with you 100%. Though not gay obviously, a bald mound would be very disturbing for ME to look at. In a five year old, yes, but a grown woman? Disturbing.

    I am convinced that many men who like the Bald Eagle look have pedophilic tendencies.

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  5. on May 21, 2008 at 5:21 pm DF

    A woman’s job in life is to test prospective suitors but women in this country just take it too far. Is it any surprise? I think the following speaks volumes;

    “Girl: I’m a very dominant woman and I like men who are more dominant than me.”

    Translation: “I have masculine traits that require you to display a level of masculinity that would make the barbarian hordes blush.”

    Soon, women in this country will become so masculine they will require you to kill your own family with your bare hands as a test of your indifference and aggression. Give me a fucking break.

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  6. on May 21, 2008 at 5:26 pm roissy

    and this chick was a nurse! a military nurse, but still…

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  7. on May 21, 2008 at 5:57 pm sara

    If the woman does not become a little less cocksure of herself, she will end up cock-less.

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  8. on May 21, 2008 at 6:10 pm PA

    and this chick was a nurse! a military nurse, but still…

    “Military nurse” says it all: nurses in the military are commissioned officers. This means they get big ego feeds from being saluted all day by every enlisted men, from Privates to Sergeant-Majors. And they have to be addressed as “Ma’am.”

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  9. on May 21, 2008 at 6:12 pm Kasey

    People, and conversations like this, are as relevant as a conversation on clowns at the circus. Waste of space, waste of time (even if she’s “hot”).

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  10. on May 21, 2008 at 6:13 pm agnostic

    The only way girls can be funny is unintentionally.

    Shit-testing should only consist of showing off a sexual body part and seeing if the guy keeps staring at it like a desperate horndog or has control.

    This works for guys, too — weeds out the girls who only value us for our looks. You don’t have to be just a number, guys.

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  11. on May 21, 2008 at 6:17 pm Wonka

    Is it at all possible that people aren’t testing you until you start performing for them?

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  12. on May 21, 2008 at 6:56 pm johnny five

    Shit-testing should only consist of showing off a sexual body part and seeing if the guy keeps staring at it like a desperate horndog or has control.

    false dichotomy.

    option 3: the guy occasionally stares, not like a desperate horndog but, rather, as though he already owns that body part: the visual equivalent of placing a hand gently but firmly on the small of the back.

    btw, if a girl is hot enough, ‘sexual body part’ is redundant.

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  13. on May 21, 2008 at 6:57 pm hmmm

    So Roissy and others – do you think that women engage in shit testing consciously, or does it just flow uncontrollably? Do they think “oh, I’m going to shit test this guy,” or does it just simply happen without any thought?

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  14. on May 21, 2008 at 7:00 pm alias clio

    Agnostic: “The only way girls can be funny is unintentionally.”

    Piffle. Only a man of limited social experience could make such a statement.

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  15. on May 21, 2008 at 7:06 pm johnny five

    Do they think “oh, I’m going to shit test this guy,” or does it just simply happen without any thought?

    the more egregious forms of shit testing, such as the the ‘dominant woman in heels’ episode mentioned above, are obviously intentional.

    but remember this:
    every meaningful interaction with a woman is a test.
    maybe not a shit test, but you are being evaluated and your behavior is being critiqued.
    constantly.
    choose wisely.

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  16. on May 21, 2008 at 7:12 pm sara

    Those who shit test are asking for it.

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  17. on May 21, 2008 at 7:18 pm Abhs

    Holy shit dude.. That’s my attitude.. Whenever I’m dealing with sass attacks I act like I’m their daddy and their spoiled little girls throwing tantrums.. Can’t touch this

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  18. on May 21, 2008 at 7:27 pm Abhs

    #14

    I need to know what a piffle is

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  19. on May 21, 2008 at 7:28 pm Usually Lurking

    btw, if a girl is hot enough, ’sexual body part’ is redundant.

    IMO, only two parts of a girl never show any beauty or sexiness: the bottom of her feet and her armpits.

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  20. on May 21, 2008 at 7:58 pm wingedfeet

    I think this is more than just a female occurence – it seems like both males and females conversate in this way here (not all obvs). Everytime I have one of these conversations it just reaffirms my belief that some of the people that live here now were unpopular in HS and came here for a ‘fresh’ start. Never really gaining the social skills necessary to be a normal person, they flounder and annoy those around them.

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  21. on May 21, 2008 at 7:59 pm Days of Broken Arrows

    Except for flings and one-nighters, I would stay far away from nurses. Nurses love control and drama — just what you get when you’re in a field where you’re in charge of sick people relying on you.

    Didn’t you once post something about how a woman’s profession reflects on her personality?

    Anyway, nurses are great if you want to: go to Entre Nous, get a prostate massage, have a lot of anal, or do a threesome. But for the long haul, they’ll find single parenthood or thugs who move in and out of their lives.

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  22. on May 21, 2008 at 8:09 pm paperdreamer

    Shit testing reminds me of really corny R&B music videos, where the girl keeps fake-running from the guy but is slutty/ seductive at the same time. And the guy just starts moon dancing.

    Maybe shit testing is an acquired skill. I’ve never really seen it often, except with really drunken girls at frats.

    Once in high school, some girl shit tested a guy who was “just asking for it.” I think he liked it.

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  23. on May 21, 2008 at 8:15 pm Reggie

    #10 agnostic
    The only way girls can be funny is unintentionally.

    That’s like saying there are no women over six feet tall. Sure, it might not be as common as among men, but they still exist. Unless you’re so determined to cling to your thesis that you categorically refuse to see humor when it comes from a particular source, which seems pretty pointless.

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  24. on May 21, 2008 at 8:30 pm PA

    The only way girls can be funny is unintentionally.

    Agnostic is a smart guy and makes many insightful observations but I think he’s taking his tough-minded Low Agreeableness / Low Conscientiousness persona too seriously.

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  25. on May 21, 2008 at 9:27 pm agnostic

    Only a man of limited social experience could make such a statement.

    Ha, I’ve only ever made females my friends (with a male exception here and there), so I am very attuned to how funny they are (or are not). Most believe that sarcasm plus their own laughter makes them the reincarnation of Dorothy Parker.

    Comedy Central made a list of the 100 Greatest Stand-ups of All time:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comedy_Central_Presents:_100_Greatest_Stand-Ups_of_All_Time

    8 of 100 are female.

    (And anyone who can’t understand that “never” never means “never” but just close to “never”… well, can’t take a joke.)

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  26. on May 21, 2008 at 9:34 pm Marlboro Man

    It makes sense that 5’7, 130 pound Agnostic only has female friends given his petite frame. Since women in their 20s prefer a man’s body, he thinks he has found a niche in adolescent girls whose tastes tend toward the girly males (Leonardo di Caprio, boy bands). The problem is that they eventually grow up.

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  27. on May 21, 2008 at 9:59 pm Days of Broken Arrows

    “Since women in their 20s prefer a man’s body, he thinks he has found a niche in adolescent girls whose tastes tend toward the girly males (Leonardo di Caprio, boy bands). The problem is that they eventually grow up.”

    No, that’s not a problem. That’s the beauty of it. There are always new younger women to meet. Like the character says in “Dazed and Confused:” “I keep gettin’ older; they just stay the same age!”

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  28. on May 21, 2008 at 10:09 pm sara

    One woman’s viewpoint on being married to a beta man after being married to an alpha man:

    Beta’s are not all sweetness and light and abused poor little things that just need to learn game in order to get laid. I had no hesitation marrying the man simply because he was beta. I loved his intelligence, sense of humor, honesty, and sweetness. Many thought he was GAY before he married me! He had college professors hit on him and a long term gay friends. He was far from gay. The thing that started us on our downward trend was his alcoholism turned workaholism/father issues.

    Early on, instead of keeping our sweet, wonderful and satisfying sex life going, he got very insecure and started working more hours and only wanting sex on the weekends! I am not one to have sex on a schedule. Well, his anxiety grew from bad to worse and I wasn’t always the sweetest woman on the planet either. Not that we fought. It would have been better if we did. Some passion may have been ignited.

    So, roissy, tell the betas to be assertive, not passive aggressive. There must be other feminine women out there who would gladly marry an assertive, confident beta man. He is the father of my child. For that I am highly grateful, but I HAD to divorce him to wake him up. He’s remarried and all is well with him.

    That is all. Sorry, I have no study to back this story up. ^_^

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  29. on May 21, 2008 at 10:18 pm agnostic

    Being 5’8 and 135 lbs with a pretty boy face lets me fly under the radar more easily, hahahaha. Marlboro man is just jealous that he can’t be around, or with, college girls anymore.

    And is also wrong about girls in their mid-late 20s — I get attacked by them *more* in a club, because they tend to be more desperate than college girls who are in full bloom.

    Don’t worry, once my girls become wrinkled, jaded, and decrepit, I’ll send a couple your way and you can support their living-beyond-their-means lifestyle in return for an occasional leathery blowjob.

    No need to thank me — know I can help a fellow soul in need already fills my heart with joy.

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  30. on May 21, 2008 at 10:26 pm T.

    I do find that girls who grew up as tomboys, or had a lot of brothers or started life looking awkward, homely or awkward can indeed be hilariously funny. Even hot funny women were often not so hot when younger which is why they developed a sense of humor. Girls who always grew up attractive, however, I find to rarely be funny. But honestly, i don’t blame them for this, I blame men. I have a female friend who is a bartender and smoking hot, and whenever she opens her mouth to say a joke, no matter how inane, all the guys stop what their doing, stare in rapt attention and die laughing, even if it’s a joke that would be ignored or ridiculed if coming from a man. So how is this girl supposed to realize she’s not at all funny based on reactions like that? The reason so many women are unfunny is because guys laugh at their bad jokes in hopes of getting laid.

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  31. on May 21, 2008 at 10:31 pm well hung

    I enjoy reading Clio’s comments. She is kind of stand-offish in a sexy way. She seems feisty too. I bet she is a screamer. I know she would be with me.

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  32. on May 21, 2008 at 10:44 pm agnostic

    The reason so many women are unfunny is because guys laugh at their bad jokes in hopes of getting laid.

    When they’re younger, girls laugh all the time at lame jokes if they like the guy — usually because he looks good. And all the beta hangers-on laugh at the guy’s jokes the way you have to laugh at your boss’ jokes.

    So, the really funny guys tend not to be very good-looking or Big Man types. That still doesn’t explain why invisible males are more funny on average than invisible females.

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  33. on May 21, 2008 at 11:01 pm Joe T.

    It takes a certain in-yo-face aggressiveness to be over-the-top funny (think of some of the people on that list – Kinnison, Pyor, Carlin, Rock)… a quality that fewer women can naturally display.

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  34. on May 21, 2008 at 11:07 pm alias clio

    Agnostic, dear, your response to my post is replete with false assumptions.

    F.A. #1: That “limited social experience” means “has not met many girls”. I meant that you have not mixed very widely with many classes and ethnic groups – except among students, who usually aren’t that funny anyway. The reason I objected to your comment was that, I think women are funnier than men – with a few rare exceptions. But not in North America, on the whole. Here, women are instructed from youth in the Importance of Being Earnest, while male humour doesn’t get much beyond fart-jokes and gross-out stuff.

    F.A. #2: That being funny means one must have tried to be so professionally. I don’t find most stand-up comics all that funny in any case, again with rare exceptions (Dennis Leary, Robin Williams, and Jerry Seinfeld are about the only ones who make me laugh) so the fact that most of them are male does not surprise me.

    F.A. #3: That I’m confused about the colloquial use of “never”, and take it literally. (Or was that addressed to me?)

    Anyway, humour requires both a jokester and people who can see a joke. Since men learn to be funny, in part, to impress women, women must know how to respond to men’s humour. Even when it’s not really funny. Men often fail to perceive women’s humour because among many of us it is ironic (rather than sarcastic). The difference is that sarcasm is always meant to insult the listener, while irony invites the listener to share the joke if he can. For example, I suspect that Roissy’s friend in this story may have been teasing him and was waiting to see whether he picked up on it. I could be wrong – it would depend on the context. Anyway, if I’m right, his response was perfect.

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  35. on May 22, 2008 at 12:14 am TSM

    22 paperdreamer,
    Shit tests are usually much more subtle. They often take the form of an accusation; a girl will call you cocky, a douchebag, an asshole. If you deny it and defend yourself, you’ve failed the test. If you admit and revel in it, you will, as Roissy would say, set her loins ablaze with lust.

    34 Alias Clio
    “I think women are funnier than men – with a few rare exceptions.”
    Oh that’s nice dear. Care to marshall any evidence for that whopper? The only people that really laugh at women are other women, but in those instances, they’re not actually being funny (there are some funny girls, but rather rare). Maybe there are more funny women among foreigners, but that there’s an entire reversal, bullshit.

    “I don’t find most stand-up comics all that funny in any case, so the fact that most of them are male does not surprise me. ”
    So your response to comedians defines what’s funny? Mmm, that classic fallacious trap common to almost all women, of using your personal experience to as the last word on everything.

    That’s a bit vague, here’s an example from yesterday: I was talking to a woman about the concept of intelligence among other things, and she could not admit that intelligence is basically just raw smarts, she kept on saying how there are multiple dimensions to it, drive, ambition, etc., simply because she was a rather accomplished successful lady but not incredibly smart. Her definition of intelligence was basically constituted so that *she* is considered intelligent, kinda like how as you deem humor universally unfunny whenyou don’t like it.

    Women are also too self-righteous to be funny, too god damn PC.

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  36. on May 22, 2008 at 12:25 am agnostic

    OK, let’s go in reverse order.

    F.A. #3: That I’m confused about the colloquial use of “never”, and take it literally. (Or was that addressed to me?)

    No.

    F.A. #2: That being funny means one must have tried to be so professionally.

    Obviously there are lots of funny guys who don’t make a living off of it. So I don’t pretend that professionals are the only funny people — still, if there equal numbers of funny but unprofessional men and women, why are there so many more men among funny professionals?

    Note that female enjoy performing (acting, singing, playing an instrument, teaching, etc.), so it can’t have to do with anything related to performance. I conclude that there actually aren’t as many funny but unseen women as men.

    I meant that you have not mixed very widely with many classes and ethnic groups – except among students, who usually aren’t that funny anyway.

    Not even wrong. Most of my mom’s family I spent lots of time around growing up, and they’re working class hillbillies from Appalachia. I went to a middle and high school that was diverse economically and racially, met rich people from abroad in college, have lived for a year in Barcelona, have worked around older women (teachers) a lot when I was a tutor, bla bla bla. And then there’s the blogosphere with its variety of women.

    Here, women are instructed from youth in the Importance of Being Earnest, while male humour doesn’t get much beyond fart-jokes and gross-out stuff.

    OK, we’re going to get you some practice in gathering and analyzing data rather than proclaiming something. Find a list compiled by some body of experts of the top-rated humorists, satirists, etc., and see if they’re mostly women. If you believe North American culture prevents women from expressing this side of them, find a list of these people from outside of North America, and see if they’re mostly women.

    I’m sure there’s some annual prize given to humorists, satirists, etc. Or maybe you, Thursday, Michael Blowhard, and others could come up with an objective list of eminent humorists and satirists. Not even having read as extensively as you all, I can already tell that females are a small minority.

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  37. on May 22, 2008 at 12:29 am Days of Broken Arrows

    Agnostic — What you’re trying to say is that women enjoy performing because they’re mostly by nature exhibitionist. They can just get up somewhere and they’ll get applause cause they look nice.

    Men, on the other hand, have to bring actual talent to the table. This is one reason why men are funnier than women — they have to be. The other is that, I believe, females by nature have less a sense of humor because they are genetically made for child-rearing and that requires little irony and sense of distance from the subject.

    If we all look back at the women we’ve known in our lives or even women who are public figures, I don’t think we’ll find many of them very funny. Castrating, myopic, self-obsessed, self-righteous and pig-headed perhaps, but not real funny. This, though, often passes for “funny” to women, which is why humorless feminist Tina Fey is admired by women and no one else.

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  38. on May 22, 2008 at 12:45 am sara

    Slightly off topic, but have you ever seen a picture of someone who treated you like shit and they had gotten really fat? No? Well, it’s kinda funny. ^_^

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  39. on May 22, 2008 at 12:46 am paperdreamer

    TSM — Okay. Then I admit to have taking part. Except I’m usually the one being shit-tested first (you can’t blame me for playing along).

    When I talk, though, I would leave out that second line in Roissy’s dialogue:

    Girl: “Do you have a problem with a tall girl wearing heels? I’m a very dominant woman and I like men who are more dominant than me.”

    Some restraint is better; otherwise, you’re a “succubus”

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  40. on May 22, 2008 at 12:49 am T.

    This, though, often passes for “funny” to women, which is why humorless feminist Tina Fey is admired by women and no one else.

    Northeast liberal men find her hilarious too, but they are basically women with penises so I don’t really know if I’m disproving your point or not by bringing that up.

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  41. on May 22, 2008 at 1:09 am alias clio

    Agnostic first, with citation:
    “OK, we’re going to get you some practice in gathering and analyzing data rather than proclaiming something. Find a list compiled by some body of experts of the top-rated humorists, satirists, etc., and see if they’re mostly women. If you believe North American culture prevents women from expressing this side of them, find a list of these people from outside of North America, and see if they’re mostly women.”

    If anyone has in fact “gathered and analyzed data” about humour, I must say I find it an extremely funny notion. You have no idea how preposterous that comment sounds. It, er, seems to suggest a certain lack of humour.

    I had no idea that we were talking about professional humorists here, BTW, or I would have abandoned the whole exchange, since it seems perfectly obvious to me that there are more professional humorists who are men, just as there are more male professionals in almost every field . I thought personal experience was the point of this thread.

    And aside from the Appalachian family, your social experience still doesn’t sound varied to me, beyond the typical North American’s. Hanging out with students in high school, or on a year abroad in Barcelona, is just, you know, hanging out with students. The culture and ways of interacting are the same.

    DOBA:
    “If we all look back at the women we’ve known in our lives or even women who are public figures, I don’t think we’ll find many of them very funny. Castrating, myopic, self-obsessed, self-righteous and pig-headed perhaps, but not real funny. This, though, often passes for “funny” to women, which is why humorless feminist Tina Fey is admired by women and no one else.”

    I’ve never heard of Tina Fey but I can agree I’ve never found much humour in a professional feminist. On the other hand, there’s much male humour at women’s expense. Witness our host (whom I do find funny, often enough). Some women’s failure to laugh at such stuff earns them the label of “humourless”. I wish there were a word equivalent to “bitchy” to describe it. How about prickish? But any attempt at the same from women earns outrage from men.

    Christopher Hitchens complains (in a funny way) that women are unable to take jokes about their aging process. Hmm. I’m not even sure that that’s true (among themselves at any rate), but if it were, how many men are there who laugh about jokes over impotence – at least, if they come from a woman?

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  42. on May 22, 2008 at 1:50 am agnostic

    I didn’t hang out with any students in Barcelona — I lived and worked there like a normal person (rooming with non-student Spaniards or French), after graduating, not as a study-abroad thing. You ignored everything else — the older women I’ve known for awhile who were teachers, the females who post or comment in the blogosphere, etc. Almost all of the full-time staff I knew when I worked at the university library were middle-aged working-class women, about half Black and half White.

    You just want to look at personal experience because it’s so fuzzy that you can spin it any way: “well, my experience is this,” “well, my experience is that.” Who cares? Ultimately, data tell us the answer, which we may or may not already know from personal experience.

    I just crunched some numbers for humorists, satirists, and editorial cartoonists:

    http://akinokure.blogspot.com/2008/05/are-women-funny.html

    You can laugh at the idea of data-collection, but objective measures always trump subjective ones.

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  43. on May 22, 2008 at 2:01 am Discord

    TSM:

    “Shit tests are usually much more subtle. They often take the form of an accusation; a girl will call you cocky, a douchebag, an asshole. If you deny it and defend yourself, you’ve failed the test. If you admit and revel in it, you will, as Roissy would say, set her loins ablaze with lust.”

    What’s less subtle than calling someone a douchebag? In what kind of context would that even fit? lol…

    Male: So, over the weekend I was helping my sister move into her new apartment. She has a large collection of antique china that took forever to pack.

    Female: You’re a total douche, aren’t you?

    Male: I ate her dog for dinner. Blow me.

    Female: Let’s go over to your place! *all wet*

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  44. on May 22, 2008 at 2:29 am alias clio

    Agnostic, you just don’t get it, do you? I usually hate that expression, but I really can’t think of a better one in this context.

    I don’t laugh at the idea of data collection. I laugh at the idea of data collection about humour. And I laugh still more at the idea that statistics about professional humorists have any bearing on whether women can be funny.

    And no, I don’t want to stick to personal experience here merely because I can spin it any way I want. When you made your original comments on this subject, you were speaking of women you encounter in day-to-day life. I am doing the same. Humour to me is a personality trait that a person either has or does not have. Some people, driven by who knows what forces, choose to make a career out of making jokes. They are indeed mostly men. Good for them. But it has nothing to do with whether most women have a sense of humour, or are as able to make funny jokes out of their experiences, as men are.

    Something to think about: humour often doesn’t move well across cultures, as most professional humorists acknowledge. Men and women live, in a sense, in different cultures – it may be that many men cannot appreciate women’s jokes – but then, many women (not this one) cannot appreciate those made by men. That doesn’t mean that neither one has a sense of humour.

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  45. on May 22, 2008 at 3:00 am Peter

    Some women’s failure to laugh at such stuff earns them the label of “humourless”. I wish there were a word equivalent to “bitchy” to describe it. How about prickish?

    There’s a current thread at Matt Yglesias’s about insulting words and expressions, and one of the points being mulled over is whether there’s a male equivalent to “bitch.” It seems to be the consensus that “dick” is a reasonable approximation.

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  46. on May 22, 2008 at 3:13 am sara

    42 agnostic: “You can laugh at the idea of data-collection, but objective measures always trump subjective ones.”

    Intensive and focused measuring of what has already occurred (or manifested if you would) is a highly over-rated endeavor. Why don’t we just take it a step further and build monuments, film documentaries and put the images to dramatic music so we can be reminded of everything that exists up to to this point in time?

    Ridiculous perhaps, but so is an obsessive focus on so-called objective data collection. Change is the only constant. The worshipful intellectual pursuit of quantifying “what is” keeps “what is” around longer. In other words what is changes back to what is. If you adore what is; that’s great. If you don’t, what is the point?

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  47. on May 22, 2008 at 3:34 am alias clio

    “The only people that really laugh at women are other women, but in those instances, they’re not actually being funny (there are some funny girls, but rather rare).”

    Jesus murphy. It’s – why, it’s funny – that when women see nothing funny in men’s jokes, it’s because women don’t have a sense of humour. And when men see nothing funny in women’s jokes, it’s also because women don’t have a sense of humour.

    Aside from anything else, women make up half the human race – more, as they get older – so to say that “only women” laugh at women’s humour doesn’t amount to much. If I believed that only men laugh at men’s humour, would you think me reasonable if I took that to mean that men are not funny? It’s strange, too, that so many funny men are proud of their ability to make women laugh, which would hardly be worth doing if women had no sense of humour.

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  48. on May 22, 2008 at 4:07 am Discord

    Sara, if it is possible to collect objective data regarding whatever topic you are concerned with, that’s what you do! Availability of objective data is a blessing, not a burden. The challenge, especially when dealing with questions of human behavior, is to not abort your data collection prematurely.

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  49. on May 22, 2008 at 6:16 am sara

    48 Discord

    Being aware of current reality is of course necessary. I guess I’m more of a futurist, but can get caught up in dragging the past (as many here will attest) into the present and future by focusing too much on what has occurred. Where do you draw the line? As soon as objective data is collected, organized, compiled, and published it’s probably nearly obsolete. Are we creators or historians? I say, we are creators, even if what we create is the same thing over and over.

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  50. on May 22, 2008 at 6:54 am Poseur

    sara how can you still be a futurist after the power of now? 😛

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  51. on May 22, 2008 at 6:55 am Poseur

    Rossy when are you going to get a book deal.

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  52. on May 22, 2008 at 8:35 am agnostic

    Does the fact that most elite athletes are male not reflect down on the ground-level, day-to-day experiences we have? Or that most social workers are female?

    I was making an observation about what happens day-to-day, but if you disagree about that, what am I supposed to do, other than say, “well, my experiences are different from yours”?

    Maybe my experiences are more representative, and maybe yours are. The only way to tell is looking up facts, not argue. I looked them up, and I’m right.

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  53. on May 22, 2008 at 1:53 pm sara

    50 Poseur “how can you still be a futurist after the power of now?”

    Past, present and future are all contained in the Now? My focus being more on the Now-future? I’m a Now-futurist? Hmmmm….I’ll come up with something… Just give me some time; I’m only 1/3 through the book!

    Am enjoying Power of Now and thank you for recommending it. Have been highly influenced by the teachings of Abraham-Hicks.. They are complementary teachings. Check it out: http://www.abraham-hicks.com

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  54. on May 22, 2008 at 1:58 pm sara

    52 agnostic

    Am not arguing about whether you are right or not, just that there are other ways of perceiving things and directing our lives and choices; scientific left-brain data collection is only one of them.

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  55. on May 22, 2008 at 2:16 pm sara

    Poseur

    I’ve got it! I’m a future Now-ist. 🙂

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  56. on May 22, 2008 at 3:19 pm cuchulainn

    “Maybe my experiences are more representative, and maybe yours are.”

    “These things are true of me therefore they must be true of you. If they are not then there is something wrong with you.” – Kierkegaard.

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  57. on May 22, 2008 at 3:34 pm sara

    56 chuchulainn

    Oooh, I love philosophy. Makes me wet just thinking about it!

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  58. on May 22, 2008 at 3:35 pm roissy

    Makes me wet just thinking about it!

    thanks for the medical report.

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  59. on May 22, 2008 at 4:48 pm DF

    Roissy, the following will explain a lot. Military nurse, masculine traits, you do the math.

    http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/05/22/military.gays/index.html?eref=rss_topstorie

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  60. on May 24, 2008 at 6:55 am Michael Blowhard

    Said to me once by a wise man: “The uterus takes seriously what was poked at it in fun.”

    But that was about 20 years ago. Does it still hold true?

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  61. on May 26, 2008 at 6:55 am Bill

    T. “Northeast liberal men are basically women with penises…” HAHAHAHAA! Couldn’t agree more!! T, much respect.

    my knee-jerk reaction to the whole “women aren’t funny” thing was to think, “Oh come on, don’t be such a male chauvinist.” but the more I thought about it, I realized I can’t think of one single instance in my entire life where a girl has made me ROLL. I mean the type of laughter where you can’t breathe and are about to piss your pants. every time I laugh like that, rest assured, a man was making the joke.

    here’s a line from a somewhat funny female: “my pussy has seen more black lips than grape kool-aid.” spoken by Lisa Lampanelli, who actually is somewhat funny…but who could also be used as a stunt double for Brian Urlacher if he ever started making movies. hmmmm…

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  62. on May 26, 2008 at 5:55 pm Vaginaholic

    I agree it’s a little weird to fetishize bald twats, but in the end, bald and hairy twats perform the same function and it’s all good. As long as there’s not so much hair down there that you think things might be growing in the forest.

    And a girl who tells you she’s shaved (or offers any other pussy status reports) is basically verbally telling you that she’s ready to spread her legs for you. Where’s the fun and challenge in that?

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  63. on August 28, 2008 at 2:24 pm dougjnn

    Peter – 4

    “I am convinced that many men who like the Bald Eagle look have pedophilic tendencies.”

    Since you regard sexual attraction to pubescent teen girls under 18 as pedophilia, like a good little beta boy feminist indocrtinee, then by that definition you are right — most, nearly all men have those tendencies.

    Trying to change sexual preference or make it deeply shameful by wielding taboos is itself deeply distasteful.

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  64. on December 30, 2008 at 3:06 am Upskt Celebs

    They leave to pay a visit to Mike’s Apartment? HILARIOUS. I hope I’m not the only perv who got that joke. They may want to visit upskt.com as well.

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