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That just doesn’t seem possible.
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This is almost as good as the UN population growth predictions. Total disregard for anything except for technical analysis as the Wall Street boys call it.
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I have a cousin from England. Once you’re in the UK it’s very easy to access anywhere in Europe via easy jet or the euro tunnel . He said of all the places he’s been to in Europe the women in Prague are the most drop dead gorgeous he’s ever seen…”propa fit” verbatim as I recall.
The women in Ibiza are very attractive as well if you decide to pass through.
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oh, take LOTS of pics.
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Prague is soooo 5 years ago.
I will go to Tallinn, instead 😉
Good luck y’all.
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I believe it.
The food they serve us in America is junk.
Ever wonder why every shrimp is the exact same size and color in your linguine with clams?
Or ever wonder why every tomato is the exact same size in the Grocery store?
Its all fake crap.
Take a trip outside our great country and you can taste real food.
I am moving to Buenos Aires.
– MPM
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I have more faith in the prediction that all adults will be fit in 40 years, due to advances in fat loss drugs.
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Most people prbably cannot comprehend the number 1,000,000,000
But there are a lot of those numbers of people in the world.
Lot of them in shape.
Roissy when are you going on vacation. Keep hearing about it Havn’t seen it happen. You should check out Dubai for a manly wonderland.
Probably see a lot more companies moving their headquarters as well like hal did. Everyone almost wants to work there. Betaboy heaven, Alpha too. Problem is most companies are not necesarily American they are multi national. They can move wherever. Scary huh.
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It ain’t just women who are getting fat.
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It ain’t just women who are getting fat.
true, but i don’t want to fuck the men.
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Oh yea peter well guys who are fat with a wrestling background can still take down skinny e-6’s in the army lol proven last year. (just a friendly altercation)
Sidenote teach your kids wrestling puts them worlds ahead of anyone without that knowledge.
Sidenote 2 also teach them how to box.
Bad side:
They might grow up to be psychos.
Oh well.
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From the “Don’t take my word for it” department…
“Perhaps 74 will chime in on whether Sea Fighter can take on the patrol boat role.
It is significantly larger, with a 2-3′ deeper draft, so there may be certain areas it just can’t go.
It does lack hangar and maintenance facilities, but in theory it could move Fire Scouts on its lift (with some minor redesign). It also has fresh-water, washdown facilities. This combination would let it lilly-pad helos from other vessels. (not perfect, but also not bad for a ~1000 ton vessel)
The lift could be enlarged, or a flight-deck hangar could be added, at a cost of course.
To me, Sea Fighter looks like a fast, naval HMMWV. It’s not very big, can’t carry very much, and isn’t specialized for any particular role.
However, it provides “enough” capability to be valuable across a wide range of missions, and has the potential to be bought in HMMWV-like numbers (assuming gold-plating can be kept to a minimum).”
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The G Manifesto has a very good point. The food in this country is horrible. Have you noticed that most people in this country have big bellies now? A large number of thin Americans carry a lot of flab around their bellies. It is rare to find a 40-year-old American man with a flat stomach.
When I visited Paris, I saw flat stomachs on men of all ages.
http://cosmetic-makeovers.com/2008/07/29/naomi-to-marry-a-russian-billionarie
Like Naomi’s^^^ boyfriend. He is 48, and he puts most American men to shame. He is a true alpha.
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They are able to make the dire prediction because they assume that people are basically sluggish, mindless, habitual, robotic sheep who don’t think for themselves or outside the little box that “society” puts them in. Like crabs in a bucket, no one dares crawl out else it will piss the others off.
The statisticians/scientists forget to include one variable in the equation; YOU as an individual, and in so doing they are dead on because very few individuals exist. Most are conformists even in their attempts to be non-conformist. Rebels are the only true individuals and I’m not talking about revolutionaries.
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It ain’t just women who are getting fat.
true, but i don’t want to fuck the men.
Yeah, but if you stay in shape you’ll have an advantage over the fatsos when it comes to competing for the dwindling number of non-fat women.
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And furthermore……it’s kind of like how most here don’t understand what I’m talking about when I go on and on about the importance of detoxing (oh, that horrible new age concept!) and because the AMA (our guardian protectors bar none) doesn’t endorse it, you think it’s bullshit.
Forget the fact that studies have shown that a newborn’s umbilical cord blood contains an average of 200 chemicals and pollutants, approx. 70 of which are known to cause cancer, and still people think that detoxing/untoxifying a human’s body is unnecessary. Bah, bah, bahhhhhh.
This is why I don’t care what anyone thinks about my “rantings”. If it saves one person’s life or their child’s, I truly do not care what anyone here thinks of me and my “craziness”.
A healthy body is generally not a fat one either.
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Sara, you do care what other people here think of you. Almost all declarations of “I don’t care what other people think” are big fat whopping lies.
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Re @ #7
Wish fat loss drugs were the answer. They work either by:
1) controlling hunger (worthless, since most Americans don’t even know what hunger feels like in the first place), or
2) increasing fat metabolism (worthless, since most Americans will “out-eat” the effects of the drug).
Obesity is a cognitive problem, i.e. “it’s OK to be fat”. I don’t know of any drug on the horizon to fix that one.
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#8 gunslinger
be careful with that one. whatever you do, just don’t try to *close a chick in public. (the link is solely for the benefit of jaakkeli. for everyone else, it says that a finnish chick was arrested, tried under sharia, and ultimately expelled from dubai for a street kiss close.)
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not only that, but just wait until there’s even ONE terrorist incident in dubai.
one.
watch everyone scatter and never come back. (last one out of the burj al arab, please turn out the lights)
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Well, having lost a bunch of weight in six months and kept it off for five years (about 40 pounds total-205 to 165, including the lost of about 45 pounds of fat while gaining about 5 pounds of muscle mass), and kept it off, and have a six pack at 62, apparently the holy grail of men’s health, here is my experience:
1. Don’t eat according to a schedule. Eat when you are hungry. That is right. Forget the three meals per day stuff. That’s only for farmers. Or, as the Indians out West used to say: “White man him plenty stupid. He check his watch to see if he’s hungry.”
2. Don’t eat to fight boredom. Do something interesting or useful. eg. clean the house, go out to a bar, etc.
3. Go to bed early to avoid late night snacks. Get up early and get active.
4. Don’t use butter. You will be surprised food will taste OK with out it after a while. Seasoned salt really makes things taste good.
5. Snack on veggies. Apples are good.
6. Avoid fatty foods. DO NOT EAT FRENCH FRIES.
7. Reduce caloric intake and increase muscle mass to lose weight. Don’t waste your time at the gym walking on a treadmill.
8. Workout with weights every two days for about 10 minutes. That’s all it takes to keep toned, buffed, and flexible. It is so easy, yet when I tell people this they just don’t believe it.
9. Don’t weigh yourself when losing weight. Just eat as little as possible, and measure results by how your clothes fit. A scale is too variable and a very cruel way to monitor your progress.
10. Watch your nutrition. Take vitamins or eat some red meat from time to time. Brush with care, since meat diets to lose weight might damage your teeth.
This system works. The gay men have started hitting on me again. But, I did say I was a beta.
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#18, anton:
go back and read patrick’s post again, paying particular attention this time to the word “advances”.
the Biggest Losers of 2048 will look back on redline, phen-fen, and their ilk with haughty bemusement, not unlike the way in which we moderns regard Forced March – one of the most popular fat loss and energy drugs of the early 20th century.
viva medellín!
i’m with you, though: it’s hysterical to watch fatties chug redline.
the bottle now actually carries a warning prohibiting its use by individuals more than 15 pounds overweight.
hilarious.
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Shangri-La Diet — easiest way imaginable to take some weight off and keep it off. Basically you ingest some flavorless oil every day, and it suppresses your appetite, and you wind up eating less just because you feel like it. Easy as pie. And it’s hilarious when the appetite suppression kicks in. I remember reaching for seconds and — all on its own — my hand came back to me empty. My body knew it wasn’t hungry any longer.
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17 Randall
Sara, you do care what other people here think of you. Almost all declarations of “I don’t care what other people think” are big fat whopping lies.
Perhaps we have different definitions of “caring”. Excessive “caring” of what others think often entails changing one’s behavior to suit others. As you’ve noticed, it you’ve been around here much, I haven’t changed my tune to fit anyone else’s desires. Really there are only two things anyone here needs to do to get along with me:
1. Listen
2. Obey
That’s all I care about.
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There is no escape from obesity
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16 Sara “This is why I don’t care what anyone thinks about my ‘rantings.’ If it saves one person’s life…”
=== Sara: Saving American lives, one Roissy comment at a time
18 Anton “Obesity is a cognitive problem”
=== And a dietary one (refined carbs).
19 johnny five “just wait until there’s even ONE terrorist incident in dubai [then] watch everyone scatter and never come back
=== At least it would bring real estate prices there back down to Earth. And when you own property in Dubai you are automatically eligible for a residence card. Sweet.
23 Sara
there are only two things anyone here needs to do to get along with me:
1. Listen
2. Obey
=== Sara, you should consider being a dominatrix, get paid to be you.
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Did we really need a government-funded study for this?
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Is this really the best you could do?
Why not move to Africa? They’ll still be having problems feeding themselves in forty years.
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When I visited Paris, I saw flat stomachs on men of all ages.
Yes, but did you visit the suburbs where most of the “regular” french live? They are also getting fatter. Actually, when that book “French Women Don’t Get fat” book came out, they were having front-page stories on how fat the French were getting. Paris is for the Elite. It is the same as seeing all of the non-fat people in Manhattan.
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Fatties make me sick to my fucking stomach…
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Brush with care, since meat diets to lose weight might damage your teeth.
Yes, this must be why the Native Americans (back in the day) had such bad teeth. Or, for that matter, the Inuit.
Get real.
Eat Fat, Eat Cholesterol, watch the Carbs. Nice upshot, you don’t need any fucking synthetic vitamins when you eat like this. You get all of the FAT-SOLUBLE vitamins you need.
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sara,
do you rant during sex?
if so, i’d like to have a drink with you.
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Well moving to Prague may not be part of the plan but leaving the US certainly is, with a possible summer home
and mistressin Tallinn.I don’t think we’ll reach a complete obese population across the country as the wealthy will have access to better quality food, plastic surgery, and other indulgences. Its the middle class and poor that are fucked.
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I believe it.
The food they serve us in America is junk.
Wait till Roissy gets a load of what they eat in Czechland. Hair-raising and cholesterol laden. The difference is they eat a whole lot less of it and get some fucking exercise now and again. There are some whales here, though. These beasts taking over the planet from the hotties, one country at a time.
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Michael, after tasting her first and last spoonful of flexseed oil, Pupu lost interest in food and in life for a brief moment. She has since said no to any plain-tasting substance abuse, and been simply relying on her superior imperfect genes. Shangri-La is no solution, and Prague is no escape. We must eat. We’ve got time — there are still 40 years until each of us is, for sure, fat.
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Read about Jan kwasniewski’s “Optimal Diet,” the most extreme low-carb diet on the planet. You live on cream and meat, basically.
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@ 20
good points, joel, although i would quibble with a few. however, you left out the most important: “Make maintaining fitness a priority in your life”
@ 21
I stand fairly chastised, JF….but what new mechanisms did you have in mind?
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It ain’t just women who are getting fat.
Peter keeps asserting that American men are just as fat as American women. It’s not quite true:
“A survey by the National Center for Health Statistics found that the average waist size for Caucasian American men was 39 inches, a full inch lower than the 40-inch threshold established by the International Diabetes Federation. American women did not fare as well, with an average waist size of 36.5 inches, about two inches above their threshold of 34.6 inches.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/13/world/asia/13fat.html
So American men are still technically a healthy weight, while American women are not.
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Primarily meat diets are actually terribad.
Some vegetables including rice and beans have protein, nuts have good protein, and eating a lot of fruits and vegetables (unrefined carbs) is much healthier. The Asian home-cooked diet of white rice with stirfried vegetables is fine, as long as the portions are small. Snacking on fresh and dried fruits, especially berries, is also delicious and provides a ton of fiber.
High fat (especially saturated fat in meat) low carb in itself does not do much wonders for the body. Cook the stirfry in olive oil (unsaturated fats) and get omega-3 oils for fat, not fat from meat. Vegetarians live longer, period. We haven’t gone completely vegetarian, but my husband has two close friends who have, and they are in better shape than he is.
As far exercise goes, I walk 2 miles every Monday to Friday to and from work, and I do lifts, squats, lunges, sit-ups, and push-ups (not girl style) every day for about half an hour. A year of this has turned me from flabby pouchy tummy to seeing muscle definition in a lot of places. I can also walk/jog for much longer, whereas previously I was very much out of shape.
It does not take a lot of exercise to see good results, but it does take sustained, routine exercise. No shortcuts, no instant results, but over the long term it makes you more energetic, less stressed, stronger, and just better. The mind seems clearer and sharper as well. And for women, don’t stop exercising when on your period, just do it more lightly. Being healthier makes the period and the surrounding effects less agonizing, too.
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I wouldn’t get too worked up over this uh, “study.”
And SeaFighter HSV,
Is there room for an Osprey or 2? I been looking for a revolution in airlift and close combat support capabilities! Those things work great, so I’m told. Just a few minor problems to iron out.
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“Yes, this must be why the Native Americans (back in the day) had such bad teeth. Or, for that matter, the Inuit.”
Well, I would put this advice into the “can do no harm” category. It’s not like good oral hygiene is going to be harmful or anything . . .
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25 James O.
=== Sara, you should consider being a dominatrix, get paid to be you.
Interesting. Perhaps I could flog the fatties into losing weight and getting healthy. It might be more effective as many men who were abused by their mothers will undoubtedly respond with the slavish devotion I crave.
This woman was one of my diverse group of MySpace “friends” when I had a profile. Until I get trained, anyone interested can contact her.
http://www.msgenevieve.com/
31 jr
sara,
do you rant during sex?
if so, i’d like to have a drink with you.
And what would you like me to say? That you are a bad, bad, very bad boy?
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7 Patrick
I have more faith in the prediction that all adults will be fit in 40 years, due to advances in fat loss drugs.
For being such a self-proclaimed genius on some subjects, you are not very bright on others. Correct me if I’m wrong, but as far as I know side effects from prescription drugs have killed more people than war itself. (I’m exaggerating for effect as there as been something like 5,000 wars in the last 3,000 years) Please wake up and get a clue. There is no real “cure” until the cause is eliminated and your slavish faith in science is blinding you to the fact that there is no quick fix when it comes to health. i
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sara
As VK would say. Suck a Mexican dick.
I have never proclaimed myself here or anywhere else to be a genius. I’m a physics grad student at a top university, I see genius every day, and I’m definitely a peg or two below those guys.
Did I say that I believe everyone will be fit in 40 years? No! I said I had more faith in that prediction than in the prediction that everyone will be obese in 40 years. I do believe that in the next 40 years, fat loss drugs and technologies will bring us closer to being able to eat like pigs and look like gods, but we won’t be there yet. There is no quick fix now, but it’s foolish to believe there will never be one. There was no quick fix for polio 100 years ago.
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Take for instance indians is they all are super thing except for a couple outliers. All it takes to be thin is to be poor and live in a third world country problem solved.
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Actually, correct VK usage would be EAT a Mexican dick. Just saying. 😉
As far as diet pill fat burners go, I actually got put on to one that’s incredible. It’s called Stimulant X, it stimulates you but you keep mental clarity and don’t get at all jittery like you do with Hydroxycut and others that cause you to run around like a psychotic cokehead. And the appetite surpression is sick. You never EVER want to eat. Even out of boredom. In fact, it’s almost too good, you have to force yourself to eat. And it gives great energy in the gym. Smells and tastes like shit though.
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#29 Kick a Bitch said: Fatties make me sick to my fucking stomach…
Then stop looking in the mirror.
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on August 7, 2008 at 2:45 pm37 Rain And
It ain’t just women who are getting fat.
Peter keeps asserting that American men are just as fat as American women. It’s not quite true:
“A survey by the National Center for Health Statistics found that the average waist size for Caucasian American men was 39 inches, a full inch lower than the 40-inch threshold established by the International Diabetes Federation. American women did not fare as well, with an average waist size of 36.5 inches, about two inches above their threshold of 34.6 inches.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/13/world/asia/13fat.html
So American men are still technically a healthy weight, while American women are not.
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Well its known that women store their excess fat in their hips while males have central obesity. (Pear vs. Apple shapes) thus that statistic does not completely reflect actual differences in health or weight between the sexes.
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UsuallyLurking says to get real, that meat diets aren’t bad for your teeth.
After my 6 months of weight lost, I went to the dentist. My regular dental tech, who has seen me for years, took one look in my mouth and exclaimed:
What did you do to your teeth?
When I explained, she said: “Yes, we often see dental problems in people on the Atkins diet.”
So, my dental tech certainly thinks diets can harm teeth. I was a typical example.
Part of my reason for dieting was to avoid type II diabetes, which runs in my family. Usually seen with obesity, type II diabetes is common in Indians (East Asians) who are not obese. If you read about insulin resistance, it seems to be due to lack of muscle response to insulin, which normally causes muscle to take up glucose to make gylcogen to store in the muscle. This requires your muscle cells to produce and stick glucose receptors on your muscle cell membranes. The production of glucose receptors appears to be blunted in type II diabetes.
Indian men strike me as being very “soft”, without much muscle mass or a desire to stay toned and buffed. That is, they don’t seem to value being in shape. In my simple reasoning, I decided that the best way to keep the muscle responding to insulin is to:
1. Stay buffed and toned. Bulk up. Keep the muscles working.
2. Really cut back on your caloric intake one or two days per week. Make your muscles break down its glycogen stores (takes a day or two of fasting) so the next time you really eat, and the insulin goes up, your muscles will respond by soaking up the glucose.
This has worked like a charm so far. My glucose is low, my good fats are high and my bad fats are low.
Now, if I could just get some women! I am reading this blog for hints.
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Check out India there are prob 500 million to choose from or so. lol
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Well its known that women store their excess fat in their hips while males have central obesity. (Pear vs. Apple shapes) thus that statistic does not completely reflect actual differences in health or weight between the sexes.
Considering these facts makes the statistics look even worse for women. At the same level of obesity, men should have relatively larger waists than women.
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@sara
“very bad boy”
who says that? that whole wanting to be dominated seems like a white guy thing to me, along with yellow fever.
the brothers, we just prefer a little extra lip. the rant might add to the whole experience. you let me know when you want to share some cisco with me.
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Hope — Do a Google search on “Gary Taubes” and read a few interviews with him. The benefits of eating mainly lowfat, high-carb, and grains-and-veggies have been wildly oversold to us.
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So, my dental tech certainly thinks diets can harm teeth. I was a typical example.
People nowadays eat all sorts shitty foods: Grain-Fed Beef, Boiled Milk, Pesticide cover Fruit and Veg, etc.
And the grand majority of Americans have some sort of major vitamin deficiency like, say, Vitamin D. On top of that, they then go on some crash diet which usually reduces the number of Vitamins, Minerals and Enzymes that they might have gotten otherwise on their previously deficient diet.
Then, their teeth hurt.
Eskimos, Inuit, Native Americans (back in the day, at least), the Masai…the list goes on and on. Lots of meat, few vegetables (in the case of the Eskimos, NONE) and great teeth.
Meat does not ruin your teeth, shitty diets do.
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The benefits of eating mainly lowfat, high-carb, and grains-and-veggies have been wildly oversold to us.
Michael, one of the reasons for this is that the way we prepare our grains nowadays is radically different than how we did it in the past, but, yes, right on.
White Bread and Low-Fat, High-Sugar Cereals (and fruit juices) are killing us.
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“Well its known that women store their excess fat in their hips while males have central obesity. (Pear vs. Apple shapes) thus that statistic does not completely reflect actual differences in health or weight between the sexes.”
Read the quote again (or even the article). Race and sex differences are already taken into account, which is why the thresholds are set differently for men and women, and American whites and Japanese people.
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Hope — Do a Google search on “Gary Taubes” and read a few interviews with him. The benefits of eating mainly lowfat, high-carb, and grains-and-veggies have been wildly oversold to us.
I’ve read about it, and I don’t eat things that come out of a sealed plastic bag unless it’s dried fruit or nuts. It is true that the carbohydrates commonly ingested like donuts, snack bars and cereal are refined and processed. Vegetables do not fall under this category (but salad dressing is loaded with nastiness).
Although there are problems with pesticides and other chemicals, the hormones in animal products are much more direct in their effects, because we share more in common with mammals like pigs and cows than plants and insects. I’ve been cutting out all red meat from my diet. White meat like chicken breast and fish are good, though.
White Bread and Low-Fat, High-Sugar Cereals (and fruit juices) are killing us.
Fresh fruit and vegetables are not refined carbs, but mostly contain water, vitamins and fiber along with trace antioxidants. Fiber is very filling, as is water. Often what the body signals as hunger is actually thirst. Fiber has other benefits in terms of the digestive tract as well.
The advice to eat lots of fat and protein is not great by itself. Eating huge, protein-filled meals without any vegetables often can cause indigestion and constipation. The increased appetite that comes with exercise can be moderated by simply eating good snacks like dried fruits or yogurt.
Lots of meat, few vegetables (in the case of the Eskimos, NONE) and great teeth.
I don’t avoid fat for the sake of avoiding fat. For example, olive oil and cashews both have great properties but are very fatty — the unsaturated kind. As far as the Eskimos go, they look rather plump (looking skinny does not necessarily mean healthy), but their diet high in omega-3 fatty acids protects them:
“Eskimos (more properly referred to as the Inuit) eat large quantities of fish rich in oils. Eskimos often appear to be relatively fat, yet suffer low levels of cardiovascular disease. This unexpected combination of a fatty diet and low heart disease is thought to be due to the special nature of the fish oils consumed. The blood of Eskimos takes significantly longer to clot than the blood of those on a Western diet. This longer clotting time is believed to reduce the risk of heart disease. The particular fatty acids thought to be responsible for this beneficial effect include omega-3 fatty acids (e.g. arachidonic acid and eicosapentaenoic acid) and other polyunsaturated fatty acids.”
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Fuck all this watch-what-you-eat shit. I read this while savoring some extra-fat Greek yogurt with honey and a double chocolate muffin the size of a bowling ball. I devour carb-saturated baguettes more quickly than a lumber mill chews through oak trees. Every Sunday when I’m too wiped out to cook, I pick up two double whoppers and a king size fry from Burger King. And my BMI will never go above 21.
Life as an ectomorph rules.
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Hope — Red meat that’s not grain-fed and antibiotic-saturated can be found with a little effort. Salad dressing can be made by hand in under two minutes — try 4 tablespoons of olive oil, 1.5 of balsamic vinegar, a heaping teaspoonful of mustard, and some salt and pepper. It’s delish. You’re certainly right about the benefits of a decent amount of fiber. People going on Atkins often find themselves doing a lot of what used to be called “straining at their stool.” So they up their fiber intake. But you might want to watch the fruit and especially the dried fruit — that’s a whole lot of sugar. Fruit is being raised to be much, much sweeter these days than it once was, and many people find that cutting back some on the fruit helps them shed some pounds, or at least not put on so much weight.
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Sara the ever more svelte
They are able to make the dire prediction because they assume that people are basically sluggish, mindless, habitual, robotic sheep who don’t think for themselves or outside the little box that “society” puts them in. Like crabs in a bucket, no one dares crawl out else it will piss the others off.
The statisticians/scientists forget to include one variable in the equation; YOU as an individual, and in so doing they are dead on because very few individuals exist. Most are conformists even in their attempts to be non-conformist. Rebels are the only true individuals and I’m not talking about revolutionaries.
I agree. Very astute observation Sara. The matrix was more than a movie.
I also agree about the importance of detoxing.
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Usually Lurking
When I visited Paris, I saw flat stomachs on men of all ages.
Yes, but did you visit the suburbs where most of the “regular” french live? They are also getting fatter. Actually, when that book “French Women Don’t Get fat” book came out, they were having front-page stories on how fat the French were getting. Paris is for the Elite. It is the same as seeing all of the non-fat people in Manhattan.
Yes, I’ve read about the French suburbs, but I did not visit them. In Manhattan, the women are very thin since you can find plenty of big gut men. In Paris, big bellied men are few and far between. Also many of the Manhattan women dedicate a lot of time to being thin. You and I know a lot of NYC women are on starvation diets, but that jacks up the face which would lead us to another story but. . .
Beyond walking, most French don’t exercise in the way that Americans do. I saw one health club, I am sure there were more, and I saw very few people out running or jogging.
Usually Lurking, one of the biggest differences that I noticed between Paris and the states are serving sizes. The cans of soda are smaller; I brought an empty can back to compare. Even McDonalds serving sizes were much smaller. The plates were smaller. A French croissant is 1/2-1/3 the size of an American one. The bakeries that I visited were not big on preservatives because all of the croissants that I brought after 3pm were hard as rocks. I came across no giant chocolate chip cookies either. In the supermarkets I visited, I did not see isles devoted to potato chips, corn chips, and doritos
There are so many issues around obesity. I really think it should have its own twelve step program.
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Joel said:Now, if I could just get some women! I am reading this blog for hints
Who me???
Just kidding
Agnostic- Lots of ectomorphswill be thin their entire lives but plenty are skinny fat.
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43 Patrick
I was going to apologize for using a sledge hammer where a rubber mallot would suffice till I read this:
I do believe that in the next 40 years, fat loss drugs and technologies will bring us closer to being able to eat like pigs and look like gods, but we won’t be there yet. There is no quick fix now, but it’s foolish to believe there will never be one. There was no quick fix for polio 100 years ago.
Have you not noticed that even though people don’t die from bacterial pneumonia due to antibiotics, that they are dying more from cancer and alzheimers? Have you been living under a rock? Or just watching a lot of drug ads on television? There is a reason why science finds a cure for one disease and eight more take it’s place. They are looking for a cure and ignoring the cause because “cures” are a lot more expensive and removing the cause means people may actually have to do something other than take a pill. It might be slightly uncomfortable or time consuming and take away from their TV time.
It’s that immature and depressing desire that has so many thousands dying every year from drug side effects. Jesus, there are products and methods that are 100% safe but the motivation to NOT deal with the cause is killing people left and right. So, you probably like the idea of being able to have hundreds of cancer causing chemicals in your body and still think that you can be healthy? Doctors are human beings, not Jesus Christ. LOL
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43 Patrick
As VK would say. Suck a Mexican dick.
I like a man who puts me in my place.
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1) controlling hunger (worthless, since most Americans don’t even know what hunger feels like in the first place), or
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Hunger for raw calories, or hunger for some nutrient? Or is it the ‘belief’ of the poster that the human body, over thousands of years of evolution(or because of intelligent design) never refined “hunger” beyond simple thirst for water, and simple hunger for raw calories?
Yet people feel ‘hunger’ for caffeine and nicotine, and it is satisfied without raw calories and can happen when they are ‘full’. Why should chemical specific ‘hunger’ be limited to caffeine and nicotine? The benefit of having the body be able to say “I want protein” or “I want that plant over there that has a vitamin I need” is obvious.
Then peoples food were laced with chemicals to trick them into thinking they were getting that nutrient, and yet the food didn’t actually have that nutrient. So they were still hungry. And no matter how much of the “right taste” they ate, they were still hungry.
Tricking the body:
http://www.foodproductdesign.com/articles/463/463_1299de.html
Go science.
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Well its known that women store their excess fat in their hips while males have central obesity. (Pear vs. Apple shapes) thus that statistic does not completely reflect actual differences in health or weight between the sexes.
Abdominal fat is much worse for one’s health than fat around the hips. This is part of the reason why men die so much younger than women.
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Have you not noticed that even though people don’t die from bacterial pneumonia due to antibiotics, that they are dying more from cancer and alzheimers?
Didn’t you notice that the guy you pushed out of the way of a speeding bus died like 75 years later of cancer? Ever think of why? Maybe being pushed out of the path of oncoming vehicles causes cancer? Ever think of that? Bet you didn’t!
Have you been living under a rock? Or just watching a lot of drug ads on television? There is a reason why science finds a cure for one disease and eight more take it’s place. They are looking for a cure and ignoring the cause because “cures” are a lot more expensive and removing the cause means people may actually have to do something other than take a pill.
Ah yes, skepticism about the endeavor that, for example, wiped out smallpox but total credulity for a pad you can stick to your foot that sucks the mercury out of your body.
You fail at thinking.
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66 Steve Johnson
Maybe being pushed out of the path of oncoming vehicles causes cancer? Ever think of that? Bet you didn’t!
Perhaps you could start a fund for research into that.
Ah yes, skepticism about the endeavor that, for example, wiped out smallpox but total credulity for a pad you can stick to your foot that sucks the mercury out of your body.
You mistake my meaning. There was no skepticism about the vaccine that supposedly wiped out small pox, but there was speculation that it was on it’s way out naturally by the time the vaccine was created. Vaccinations contain thimerisol, a mercury compound and mercury is a known potent neurotoxin. It’s number three on a list of about 90 of the most hazardous substances known to man. If you still believe it’s not doing any harm in your body, then go ahead and keep it there.
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Western medical science didn’t discover the smallpox cure.
If anything, it took credit for some other’s work. A celtic wisewomen knew this, and was questioned by a certain doctor, he was informed by her that chickenpox prevented smallpox and had been known to do so for many generations in her clan.
Please choose a better example next time. Perhaps a not so flashy & dramatic *stolen* one.
You fail at demonstrating.
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#68:
the strength of western science – which is, UNIQUELY among naturalistic viewpoints worldwide, marked by objective testing and experimental control** – lies not in discovering correlations, but, rather, in discriminating between true causal links and spurious (or nonexistent) correlations.
or:
western science is THE bullshit detector.
random case in point:
in 1536, jacques cartier, desperate to save his men from scurvy, consulted local native medicine men, who pointed him to the life-saving power of arbor vitae. the success of this treatment was later seized upon by good old western medicine, in the isolation of vitamin c as the causal agent in preventing scurvy.
is this an example of western science exploitatively “stealing” ideas from the poor little natives of the st. lawrence, or is it an example of successful discernment of one extremely valuable piece of knowledge amidst a sea of shamanic bullshit?
you decide.
there can be no doubt that your dear celtic wisewoman proffered hundreds of completely ineffectual folk cures every bit as sincerely and assuredly as she did this admittedly valid one.
or:
if you’re happy (that they don’t drill holes in heads to let out evil spirits anymore) and you know it, clap your hands (for western medicine).
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**objective testing and experimental control are, sadly, beginning to fall prey to the same politically correct machinations that have largely replaced “merit” with “diversity”.
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#36 anton
dude, i’m just a gigolo, that sort of query ain’t my glass of sherry.
but, ray kurzweil can help you (search the text for “obesity”).
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What the hell are you trying to say? People are dying from different diseases than they used to for several reasons.
1. The old diseases are cured
Even if the mortality rate from disease B remains constant, humans and their constant need to find a boogeyman will say there is an epidemic of B once the far worse disease A is cured.
2. Our diets fellate Mexican dicks
Do I need to explain this?
3. We were never meant to live this long in the first place.
There wasn’t much selection for longevity back when people were having all their kids by their mid 20s. Diseases that kill us in our 40s and 50s didn’t prevent us from reproducing and so were not selected out of the population. Shit, most people didn’t even live long enough for those diseases to kill them.
All of this doesn’t mean that science won’t help us live longer healthier lives while still eating crap. Have you not been paying attention to the last 200 years of scientific progress. What we eat today gives us cancer and heart disease, but we still outlive our ancestors of the 18th century. Stuffed to the gills is better than malnourished. Even if our diet doesn’t change, scientists will find ways to mitigate the ill effects of donuts and fried ice cream, and new diseases will inevitably pop up. 100 years from now when people are dying at the relatively young age of 150 from disease X, people like you will blaim it on their over-active lifestyle and organic diet, and you will cry to the heavens that science doesn’t have the answer.
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^This last one directed at sara and other pessimistic hippies
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@ 64 Comment Hunger
@ 70 johnny five
So happens I make my living doing research in the field of obesity (and related problems). Just looking for some good ideas for my next grant application!
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#73
you could fuck fatties of varying degrees, create standing waves in their flesh, and study the resulting resonance. +100 points if you could get their whole bodies to shatter à la wine glasses.
it’d be research (of course), charity (if they survived), and natural selection (if they shattered) all at once.
trifecta!
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JF,
Hmm, unconventional research approach…not sure it would pass muster with the Institutional Review Board…but, well, creative!
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71 Patrick
3. We were never meant to live this long in the first place.
Well, this was certainly grabbed out of thin air. Whoops I forget that reproduction is the only purpose of our lives.
What we eat today gives us cancer and heart disease, but we still outlive our ancestors of the 18th century
Fabulous. We can die slower and suffer longer. Real progress would be living longer and loving it and having the energy and attitude to enjoy it. It’s so easy to do, but not easy enough apparently. Have you seen Tim Burton’s Batman? The newscaster segment? More and more people are looking like that.
All of this doesn’t mean that science won’t help us live longer healthier lives while still eating crap.
What you’re asking for is for “science” to redesign our bodies to make it compatible with this list of goodies:
http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/cercla/07list.html
Someday we made have daily minimum requirements of PLUTONIUM-239. Yes, Patrick, I also long for those days.
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sara
Did you take your biology courses in Kansas? You cling to your myopia like a right-wing anti-gay televangelist clings to young cock.
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^ Patrick.
That is some serious clinging you’re talking about. The last biology course I took was in High School. What biology are you an expert in? Android or human?
I proclaim myself the winner based on your weak, though clever, retort.
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3. We were never meant to live this long in the first place.
There wasn’t much selection for longevity back when people were having all their kids by their mid 20s. Diseases that kill us in our 40s and 50s didn’t prevent us from reproducing and so were not selected out of the population. Shit, most people didn’t even live long enough for those diseases to kill them.
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http://www.public.iastate.edu/~honeyl/Rhetoric/twoindex.html
Aristotle wrote a few thousand years ago:
The character of men in their prime. — The body is in its prime from thirty to five-and-thiry; the mind about forty-nine.
Excuses for today’s “health”.
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sara
You’re like the retarded child who proclaims himself winner because the adult no longer wants to explain the same simple concept to him. You’re a lost cause. Have you ever met someone so stupid or stubborn that it was clear you could never communicate with that person beyond a certain level?
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Aristotle, as wise as he was, did not have the benefit of modern science. Though his age for physical prime isn’t much older than what I think of as our prime, and a late bloomer could certainly reach his prime around 32. His age for mental prime could be about right if he was thinking about wisdom rather than raw intelligence. Fields that are heavier on knowledge than intelligence tend to have older primes.
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80 Patrick
Have you ever met someone so stupid or stubborn that it was clear you could never communicate with that person beyond a certain level?
Yes, my ex boyfriend. I was trying to be funny, but you found me only trying. I don’t have huge amounts of time, the IQ, or personal motivation to compile and compose heady debates and arguments. Like I’ve said ad nauseam; this is mostly entertainment to me.
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The Rebel Orthodox Man Strikes Back
Patrick Bateman wrote:
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@79
Aristotle, as wise as he was, did not have the benefit of modern science. Though his age for physical prime isn’t much older than what I think of as our prime, and a late bloomer could certainly reach his prime around 32. His age for mental prime could be about right if he was thinking about wisdom rather than raw intelligence. Fields that are heavier on knowledge than intelligence tend to have older primes.
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And the modern data sets are for modern men eating modern diets. So what exactly are you proving here?
In any case, I think I’ve pretty much destroyed Myth 1, “people didn’t live long in the bad old days”.
Of course, any time when “decent folk” have choosen to take things to the Malthusian limit are going to be bad regardless of technological level. In fact, the technological decay will probably make things worse.
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Peep game on Geogia. Looks like moving to russia might now be a good ides right now. Doing good ain’t got no end. Plenty of work to do in the next war.
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Ladies get ready for the draft. Oh wait only males had to fill out that selective service card. Guess we are blindingly not equal after all.
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In any case, I think I’ve pretty much destroyed Myth 1.
A quote from Aristotle about the mind reaching its peak at 50 does not disprove the mountains of evidence proving people did not live as long in the “bad old days”. Long is subjective, but not at as long as today is a fact.
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Gunsling
Do u use sms? textin on a mobile phone, or cell phone, if u use shortened letters it lets u fit more in,ok.
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51 jr
the brothers, we just prefer a little extra lip. the rant might add to the whole experience. you let me know when you want to share some cisco with me.
We may in fact be compatible. My brother (no pun intended) reminds me that I am black on the inside. Only problem is I don’t know what cisco is.
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[…] That “ridiculously stupid” cube game is chick crack. But you’d know this if you weren’t an ugly girl posing as a guy who felt threatened by guys learning game and exercising the choice of ignoring you in favor of higher quality girls. […]
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Female Obesity in America will accelerate the development of technologies, whether sexbots or holographic, 3-D VR/video games.
It has to happen. Otherwise America will explode in a wave of crime coupled with a total absence of children.
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