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It Builds Character To Reject Women

November 3, 2008 by CH

If you are a man who has never rejected a woman for sex or dating, you are doing something wrong. You are, in fact, depriving yourself of one of life’s greatest pleasures and privileges, and avoiding a true test of your masculine mettle.

As we all know by now from the science, from common sense, and from reading my powerful words of genius, the default barter mechanism in the sexual market is female choice, male display. This is a natural consequence of the disparity between the scarcity of eggs and the surplus of sperm. But men are not entirely helpless to actively influence market prices; they choose as well. If men did not choose at all, women would not have evolved an instinct for improving their looks through fashion, makeup, and exercise. If I had to put a number on it, I’d say on average women do 70% of the choosing and men do 30% of the choosing. At the tails, the alpha-iest men do all the choosing and have to beat off their female suitors while the fattest, ugliest women must settle for whatever man will take them. The general trend, though, is upward dating for most women and a few men.

The fact of this mating dynamic explains why turning the tables and exercising male choice is such a powerful psychological game technique for seducing the minds of women. By behaving as if you are actively choosing women, and even occasionally rejecting them, you mimic the natural actions of the top 10% of men whose default mating strategy is choosing from an illimitable source of pussy and wielding the merciless power of sexual rejection.

Maxim #18: The two fundamental propositions upon which all game theory rests are male choosiness and female abundance. All alpha males have these two mindsets in common.

Corollary to the above: Male choosiness and female abundance do not necessarily have to be true for the strategy of behaving as if they are true to be effective at seducing women.

Try to put yourself in women’s shoes. When you are on a date, imagine you are a woman. Think like she would think. Feel like she would feel. Is this girl right for me? Are we compatible? What are her values? I’m just not sure if she’s the one; let’s see what else she has going for her. I need to keep my options open. I’m not ready to make a decision. I really need to be wowed, I wonder if she can do that for me. She seems kind of nervous. Is she dull? Am I out of her league? Damn, she just said something stupid. Maybe she’s not the one.

Keep thinking like this and soon your outward behavior will reflect your inward feelings. Suspend your disbeliefs long enough until they have become unshakeable beliefs. Once you have mastered the mindset of women, you will have mastered women themselves.

Maxim #19: The alpha male thinks and acts more like a woman than a man in matters of seduction. He understands his adversary’s psychology, and uses it to shatter her defenses.

The next time a woman who does not meet your attractiveness standards hits on you, humor her for a bit, lead her on, then politely reject her.

“What are you doing this Friday?”
“Oh, I should tell you I’m seeing someone.”

Do this even if you are hard up. Commanding the power of female/alpha male choosiness will enrich your soul and fortify your ego. You’ll feel bad for the girl for maybe 30 seconds, but the value-boosting afterglow will last for weeks. This is all about long-term thinking. Capture the female essence of sexual choice and make it a part of you.

Girls hitting on you is a rare event for most men, so you’ll need to be more active in your policy of preferential sexual consumerism. As long as you are dating two or more women simultaneously, you should have no qualms rejecting at least one of them for not being up to snuff. Choose one for dismissal and stop calling her for dates. It doesn’t have to be the least attractive chick; in fact, it’s more character-building and alpha-boosting to reject an attractive girl for an odd facial tic or bland personality. If she doesn’t get the hint, be candid and tell her she just isn’t right for you. Women, especially 7s and up, rarely hear this, so it will tear at her soul like the claws and teeth of an army of demons. If you can withstand the brief flicker of guilt and loss of sexual opportunity, her pain of rejection will actually feed your incipient alpha animal spirit, stengthening you, making you tougher, more appropriately detached, and able to clearly see and pursue your self-interest. Through the action of choosiness, your self-worth will skyrocket. And others’ evaluation of your worth will similarly follow.

If you believe there are “better” or more “moral” paths to alphaness, know this: Every alpha male is intimately familiar with the ego-stroking power of sexual choosiness. They have all, good and bad, enlightened and crass, rejected women in one way or another and crushed their souls, often on the flimsiest pretexts. Some are kind enough to dress it up in polite fictions; others are id monsters who flaunt their sexual despotism without regard for social convention or righteous preening. But all have lowered the boom. It goes with the territory.

The more women you reject, the more women will sense your radiating power to inflict pain and loss and subsequently want you. Buttress your inner game by being choosy, and rejecting freely.

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  1. on November 3, 2008 at 6:32 pm blazingshark

    There is def. something hot about being rejected.

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  2. on November 3, 2008 at 6:51 pm Nicker

    Everyone wants what they can’t have.

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  3. on November 3, 2008 at 6:52 pm Jack

    You have to get a hot woman first to reject her.

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  4. on November 3, 2008 at 6:53 pm QT

    Through the action of choosiness, your self-worth will skyrocket.

    This is the absolute truth.

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  5. on November 3, 2008 at 7:01 pm anonymous_coward

    >Everyone wants what they can’t have.

    Not in this case – the aim is not to further seduce the rejected woman.

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  6. on November 3, 2008 at 7:01 pm macdis

    Last week I approached a young woman at a bar. She had such an agreeable face and body, however, upon talking to her I realized she was a typical DC douche (shocker). I began losing interest. She finally said, “So, why did you decide to talk to me?” I calmly replied, “Because you were on my way to the bar”. She called me an asshole and I laughed at her. Also, never willingly snap a picture of a group of women at their request. Say something like, “I am not your boyfriend”, or “Buy me a drink first”.

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  7. on November 3, 2008 at 7:03 pm El Guapo

    Saying “no” at the right moment also will drive things in reverse. If you’ve never had the pleasure of being chased, just watch what happens when a woman with high-interest in you hears the word “no” when she was expecting a shoe-in.

    Say “no”. It only helps.

    And remember — the supply of women in this day and age is essentially infinite.

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  8. on November 3, 2008 at 7:06 pm Anonymous

    On a slightly different note, this may be of interest to you:

    http://www.sciam.com/podcast/episode.cfm?id=more-sex-for-women-08-11-03

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  9. on November 3, 2008 at 7:21 pm anon

    that’s just what I needed

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  10. on November 3, 2008 at 7:42 pm macdis

    “And remember — the supply of women in this day and age is essentially infinite.”

    This is so true. I have trouble watching men pine over these drabby women. Things would be different if men where not scared to walk away. The most wonderful word in my vocabulary: NEXT!!!

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  11. on November 3, 2008 at 7:49 pm Rick

    is there any way we can somehow get a conversation about politics into this thread? maybe the concept of “marxism”? lets do it guys.

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  12. on November 3, 2008 at 7:54 pm Virgle Kent

    I WILL, be linking to this post by next week, wait till you hear what the fuck I’ve been up to… That is all

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  13. on November 3, 2008 at 8:30 pm finefantastic

    it also builds character to constantly subject yourself to gastrointestinal injury via dubious korean food!

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  14. on November 3, 2008 at 8:37 pm Thursday

    Agreed that when dating on the high end of things you _need_ to date more than one women at a time. It is easier to act choosy when you actually are choosy. Rejecting women of decent quality does improve your confidence.

    But even more important is dating and getting rejected by high quality women, and then going out and getting other high quality women. After a few cycles of this, you learn that not even kind, pretty, intelligent women are irreplaceable. Once you realize that you can go out there and find someone else just as good, your confidence goes through the roof and your tolerance for nonsense falls through the floor. Once you lose the fear of losing “this one,” you are well on your way to alphahood.

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  15. on November 3, 2008 at 8:55 pm The G Manifesto

    Well written post.

    “Girls hitting on you is a rare event for most men”

    True for most men, not uncommon for G’s.

    The art of getting girls to hit on you is very Advanced Game.

    The whole paradigm shifts when you are able to get girls to approach you.

    Look into it.

    – MPM

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  16. on November 3, 2008 at 9:07 pm T. AKA Ricky Raw

    I WILL, be linking to this post by next week, wait till you hear what the fuck I’ve been up to… That is all

    Waiting until next week seems like a good idea. I think every site is slow as shit right now because everyone is election-obsessed currently.

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  17. on November 3, 2008 at 9:08 pm Married But Cool

    Even married, I sometimes tell my wife that she isn’t going to get sex from that evening when she doesn’t behave properly. It always has the desired effect. Turnabout is the game of champions.

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  18. on November 3, 2008 at 9:49 pm jkc710

    no, no, VK, tell us now. please, we need to know

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  19. on November 3, 2008 at 10:05 pm T. AKA Ricky Raw

    Time to bring it back to politics: Obama’s grandma just died. Forget any last minute comeback by McCain, I think the sympathy parade the mainstream media will trot out tonight will sway undecideds into Obama’s camp for real. The narrative is just too strong to resist I think.

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  20. on November 3, 2008 at 10:22 pm Chris

    19 T

    Time to bring it back to politics: Obama’s grandma just died. Forget any last minute comeback by McCain, I think the sympathy parade the mainstream media will trot out tonight will sway undecideds into Obama’s camp for real. The narrative is just too strong to resist I think.

    “Anybody but Bush” did not win it for Kerry, and “Nobama” isn’t gonna win it for McCain.

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  21. on November 3, 2008 at 10:25 pm T. AKA Ricky Raw

    “Anybody but Bush” did not win it for Kerry, and “Nobama” isn’t gonna win it for McCain.

    I actually agree with that. But I think among undecideds this extra piece of info is going to really sway them to Obama and close out any last minute chances of an upset. But I could be wrong.

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  22. on November 3, 2008 at 10:27 pm Married But Cool

    T –

    Excellent point. I hadn’t even thought of that. If there was a miracle in store as of 3:00 pm today, its gone now. I can see the montage already.

    Like his SNL skit, McCain needs the sad grandpa press conference to give his condolences immediately!

    But to segue back…. what openers would this crowd use with Palin if you found her in a bar? I’d have to hit that, no way I would reject that opportunity.

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  23. on November 3, 2008 at 10:31 pm Joe T.

    Roissy hath sayeth:

    “Roissy Maxim #19: The alpha male thinks and acts more like a woman than a man in matters of seduction. He understands his adversary’s psychology, and uses it to shatter her defenses.

    The next time a woman who does not meet your attractiveness standards hits on you, humor her for a bit, lead her on, then politely reject her.”

    It’s funny, R… I do this all the time. In fact, I always thought that this was one of the most beta things about me. I always thought that if I were more alpha, I’d jump for almost any pussy, and wouldn’t let a little thing like “standards” get between me and getting my rocks off.

    I always saw alphas as being this way… they grab almost any pussy that is presented to them, and in this way, they steel themselves, inuring their sensibilities to girls of lesser attractiveness, so that their libidos are always switched “on”, and when a truly hot offering presents itself, they’re ready to strike in a deadly manner.

    But I do see your point. I don’t think that when I’m doing this, it makes me an alpha, though. But maybe in some sense, it does… hmmm….

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  24. on November 3, 2008 at 10:33 pm MQ

    Palin’s husband would kick your ass, then she’d shoot you.

    The only chance would be to pretend you were a high-up Republican insider who can help her 2012 chances.

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  25. on November 3, 2008 at 10:36 pm T. AKA Ricky Raw

    LOL @ MQ

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  26. on November 3, 2008 at 10:43 pm jaakkeli

    I would just rely on my eastern euro looks and accent.

    I’ve seen you from Russia… FOR LONG TIME

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  27. on November 3, 2008 at 10:50 pm T. AKA Ricky Raw

    I’d tell Palin that my name ain’t Joe the Plumber but I can lay some serious pipe.

    HOLLA.

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  28. on November 3, 2008 at 10:55 pm T. AKA Ricky Raw

    What do you guys think about this? Wave of the future?

    Chastity belts with built-in GPS:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1082707/Outrage-chastity-belt-lingerie-fitted-GPS-tracking-system.html

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  29. on November 3, 2008 at 11:04 pm jaakkeli

    Muslims will love it. Definitely “wave of the future”.

    Damn, we’re back at politics again.

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  30. on November 3, 2008 at 11:22 pm Yup

    “The alpha male thinks and acts more like a woman than a man in matters of seduction. He understands his adversary’s psychology, and uses it to shatter her defenses.”

    True, but what is also true is that the alpha male – if he is continuously indulging in sex – is more like a women in the sense that he has is undisciplined. This lack of restraint over desires is in some viewpoints considered a feminine quality, while controlling the sex drive is considered masculine.

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  31. on November 3, 2008 at 11:23 pm BasilRansom

    23 Joe T.
    “In fact, I always thought that this was one of the most beta things about me.”

    Claiming high standards as an excuse for not getting any is pseudo-alpha.

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  32. on November 3, 2008 at 11:33 pm spaceman

    this is one of the best posts you have ever written.

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  33. on November 3, 2008 at 11:44 pm Higher Power

    “The more women you reject, the more women will sense your radiating power to inflict pain and loss and subsequently want you.”

    So, simply by doing what the Alpha does, the non-Alpha can become.. Alpha?

    What about the fact Alpha high status is not just conveyed by actions, but also subconsciously through confident body language, microbehaviors, voice tonality, etc.

    In other words, the alleged high status Alpha has to actually BE a high status Alpha at a certain point to make his Alpha act believable to women. And women, who are gifted with greater intuition in reading social dynamics, can detect an Alpha phony a mile away.

    The mantra of all self help seems to be: Here is what winners do. Do what winners do, and YOU TOO can be a winner!

    The dirty secret of self help is that the wannabe has to actually have legitimate higher value, or talent, or whatever, to have a shot at success. Merely doing ‘what winners do’ is never enough it seems.

    Maybe he is arguing that creating an abundance mindset is enough to get the rest of the above rolling.

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  34. on November 3, 2008 at 11:47 pm The G Manifesto

    “what openers would this crowd use with Palin if you found her in a bar?”

    Better just to go to your local Gentleman’s Club and swoop on the exotic dancer with the palin hair and glasses. She is probably way hotter and 21 years old.

    – MPM

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  35. on November 3, 2008 at 11:53 pm jaakkeli

    But the bragging rights!

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  36. on November 4, 2008 at 12:00 am roissy

    yup:
    This lack of restraint over desires is in some viewpoints considered a feminine quality, while controlling the sex drive is considered masculine.

    you write like a puritan.

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  37. on November 4, 2008 at 12:10 am virgle Kent

    #27 T!!!!

    OH SHIT!!! I just pissed my pants, THAT was the comment of the fucking year!

    I agree with you about saving it till next week. By the way all I have to say is three chicks nine days…..

    ROISSY listen up when best comment nominees come up. fo sho

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  38. on November 4, 2008 at 12:17 am roissy

    By the way all I have to say is three chicks nine days

    jpegs.
    no wait, scratch that.
    mpegs!

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  39. on November 4, 2008 at 12:19 am Animus

    Higher Power: The dirty secret of self help is that the wannabe has to actually have legitimate higher value, or talent, or whatever, to have a shot at success. Merely doing ‘what winners do’ is never enough it seems.

    Fake it till you make it doesn’t work out for a lot of people. But this usually has more to do with dedication than the method. The reality is that most women are little more than interchangeable pump and dumps. You can only realize this by experience. Once you realize that most of the chicks you meet are intellectually facile, emotionally unstable and outright lecherous, rejecting them becomes much easier. Lest I give ammo to the misogynist guns, let me just say: most guys are chump-tards with not much to offer a hottie. Diss fake it to make it if you like, but even with a low success rate, such a truth will blossom into understood wisdom when given ample fodder.

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  40. on November 4, 2008 at 12:26 am tupacchopra

    36 roissy:

    you write like a puritan.

    Yes, but keep in mind:

    “Hedonism and Puritanism sleep in the same bed: one wants to be free of the pains of life in this world, the other in the next.” – C.S.H.

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  41. on November 4, 2008 at 12:29 am tupacchopra

    33 Higher Power:

    The dirty secret of self help is that the wannabe has to actually have legitimate higher value, or talent, or whatever, to have a shot at success. Merely doing ‘what winners do’ is never enough it seems.

    This is true, but remember that there is a not insignificant niche of human interaction at the margins where perception is highly malleable and manipulatable.

    Think LTR vs. ONS, for instance.

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  42. on November 4, 2008 at 1:59 am MQ

    I would just rely on my eastern euro looks and accent. I’ve seen you from Russia… FOR LONG TIME

    This approach has already been tried .

    Also, this swimsuit film of Palin in her beauty-contest prime may dissuade you from even making the effort. Note the broad already middle-aged ass on a woman in her early 20s. Remember: politics is show-biz for ugly people, and only in politics could Palin be considered “hot”.

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  43. on November 4, 2008 at 3:44 am James O.

    22 Married But Cool “what openers would [you] use with Palin if you found her in a bar?”
    === “Hey, did you see those two bears fighting outside?”

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  44. on November 4, 2008 at 4:00 am joel

    Roissy, you are one beautiful piece of work.

    Just an excellent post.

    You really need to write a book, or better, a screenplay. You might make serious $$$.

    That would make me happy. It really would.

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  45. on November 4, 2008 at 6:48 am Maxwell Demon

    I haven’t read all the comments, but my $.02–this is some real fucking talk. The defining moment in a man’s sexual life isn’t the first time he gets some, it’s the first time he turns it down.

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  46. on November 4, 2008 at 12:36 pm Lucas

    “The dirty secret of self help is that the wannabe has to actually have legitimate higher value, or talent, or whatever, to have a shot at success. Merely doing ‘what winners do’ is never enough it seems”

    being seen with a subpar girl won’t make you more attractive to other girls, specially girls hotters than the one with you.

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  47. on November 4, 2008 at 2:08 pm Mu'Min

    Looks like a good time to jump back in here.

    Master Roissy, not only is the old adage, Great Minds think alike, but I tip my hat to you, sir for an excellent post. I was JUST talking about the very same thing last month, elsewhere on the Internet, to a young man, much to the chagrin of onlookers.

    In fact, if I may, that’s what I would like to broach here. Although I had been using key elements of “Game” for years w/o actually knowing it in the codified system it is today, I had no idea just how much of a sheer Sarah Palin-like backlash it would get from the familar quarters. Some people, mostly women, but some men, are absolutely livid that such a thing exists, and its time to be brutally blunt as to the real reason why:

    Because it gives men Sexual Options. In a time when a No Means No Culture determines if and when something jumps off, Game, no matter what anyone thinks, gives Men real options.

    And Women, many of them, do not like that.

    More later. Good to be back.

    Salaam
    Mu

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  48. on November 4, 2008 at 5:24 pm Dave

    Brilliant as always.

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  49. on November 4, 2008 at 5:36 pm Ba1anced-A Beta with Alpha Tendencies

    “No” is the mighty pin to the balooned ego of an entitled minded woman. 😉

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  50. on November 4, 2008 at 11:22 pm Michael Foody

    Rejecting a woman is not amoral. There is nothing wrong or mean or dirty about it. It isn’t about hurting a woman to make yourself feel good. It is about integrity and honesty. It internalizes the fact that your attention is scarce and valuable and when you feel a woman is worthy she will perceive that value. It’s not necessary to be a jerk about things.

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  51. on November 4, 2008 at 11:30 pm Mu'Min

    I’ve rejected quite a few gals in the past for a variety of reasons: sometimes for failing to meet specific criteria, or for failing to give the appropriate answers to a list of prepared questions during either the pre-date or actual date interview, and others because some quirk in her personality rubbed me the wrong way.

    One thing for sure is that very often, women have the view that men are desperate for p*ssy. And very often, sad to say, they are right. Roissy is right, a man w/some standards is a directed man, and a man a woman WILL want. In fact, lay down your standards early and ruthlessly, and watch her strive to live up to them.

    More later.

    Salaam
    Mu

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  52. on November 4, 2008 at 11:57 pm chicnoir

    Mu is back:) How is Elizabeth?

    One thing for sure is that very often, women have the view that men are desperate for p*ssy. We do And very often, sad to say, they are right It’s one of the things we women dislike about men.

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  53. on November 5, 2008 at 12:07 am Yup

    you write like a puritan.

    Yes, but keep in mind:

    “Hedonism and Puritanism sleep in the same bed: one wants to be free of the pains of life in this world, the other in the next.” – C.S.H.

    ===================

    This is true. There is definitely a thin line between the two. Thats the whole point – it takes strong masculine discipline to rein in the “hedonism.” But lets not consider the morals, because neither the Puritan nor the Hedonist know exactly what will happen after life. Just look at it as a question of “are you powerful enough to overcome your base desires?” devoid of the moral reasons for doing so.

    Kind of like a game.

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  54. on November 5, 2008 at 12:38 am Mu'Min

    Chic Noir 52
    Hi Chic! Glad to be back. Have no idea what the deal is w/Elizabeth. I hope all’s well w/her.

    As to the topic, I was telling my youngboy that women HATE a Desperate Man. I was schooling him on The Friend Zone, and how a surefire way of being placed there is by being desperate.

    So, how are you?

    Salaam
    Mu

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  55. on November 5, 2008 at 12:51 am chicnoir

    I’m okay MU. I thought the two of you ran off togeather.
    As to the topic, I was telling my youngboy that women HATE a Desperate Man

    A desperate guy is the creepy weird guy who frightens women. On the pickup artist, you can see how fast women put distance between themselves and the overly hyper nervous guy.

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  56. on November 5, 2008 at 1:05 am roissy

    It isn’t about hurting a woman to make yourself feel good.

    what if you unintentionally hurt a woman and feel good?

    It’s not necessary to be a jerk about things.

    oftentimes just being a natural alpha exercising your self-interest in an amoral fashion will be perceived as jerk behavior by women.
    and, almost as often, they will love you more for it.

    Thats the whole point – it takes strong masculine discipline to rein in the “hedonism.”

    why would i want to rein in my pleasure?

    But lets not consider the morals, because neither the Puritan nor the Hedonist know exactly what will happen after life.

    since we can’t know we may as well live it up when we can.

    Just look at it as a question of “are you powerful enough to overcome your base desires?”

    why isn’t it an exercise of power to indulge your base desires?

    devoid of the moral reasons for doing so.

    there is no reason to overcome base desire except in the context of a moral code.
    defining a desire as “base” is itself a moral judgement.

    A desperate guy is the creepy weird guy who frightens women.

    why do you suppose desperate guys have a harder time getting laid than desperate girls?

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  57. on November 5, 2008 at 1:15 am Chris

    Mu, did you see my last comment to you? I need to know what email address is linked to your WordPress account in order to add you to the blog.

    Also, we should start discussing the topics amongst ourselves if we want anyone else to join in; I’m certainly not going to ask Elizabeth to check the blog out until there’s something for her to respond to!

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  58. on November 5, 2008 at 1:41 am Jewcano

    Fuck, that’s a lot of comments. This post almost goes on longer than Obama’s ties to Commie terrorists.

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  59. on November 5, 2008 at 2:29 am Dokkodo

    “Roissy Maxim #19: The alpha male thinks and acts more like a woman than a man in matters of seduction. He understands his adversary’s psychology, and uses it to shatter her defenses.

    The next time a woman who does not meet your attractiveness standards hits on you, humor her for a bit, lead her on, then politely reject her.”

    Handicap principle, manifesting itself as selectiveness. This mechanism turns an alpha into an even greater alpha and it’s the very thing that made me realise that I was one in the first place, even though society has tried to convince me to the contrary.

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  60. on November 5, 2008 at 5:03 am Michael Foody

    what if you unintentionally hurt a woman and feel good?
    You only have so much control over how much you hurt people. A lot of this is just temporal, hurting them now v. later. One should be mindful of a woman’s feelings and try and hurt them as little as possible without sacrificing ones own happiness and the that can be brought to other women. There can be pleasure in rejecting a woman. There isn’t anything wrong with that. But it ought to be the pleasure of behaving with integrity rather than a sadism.

    You shouldn’t worry about being perceived as a jerk. If enough people think you are a jerk maybe you should take a critical look at yourself and see if there aren’t ways that you can behave with more kindness. Women don’t like men because they are jerks. Most people are jerks and most people are cowards. If you are a jerk and a coward you will probably seem like a bigger jerk by being less of a coward. You will also do better with women. This leads lots of people to think that what they are missing is that they aren’t enough of a jerk. Of course since they are still cowards they are passive aggressive jerks and still fail with women. You can believe in your own value without being a jerk and it is even better. You just trust women to value you and choose women who you value. And some women will still think you are a jerk in the same way that the fox finds the grapes sour.

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  61. on November 5, 2008 at 5:04 am Michael Foody

    I forgot to close the italics.

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  62. on November 5, 2008 at 9:23 am dusty

    words of gold ! i never thaught of it this way
    maybe thats why i shag three times a day without fail !

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  63. on November 5, 2008 at 1:06 pm Mu'Min

    Chic Noir, Chris,

    @ CN: LOL! Me and Liz running off together? Fancy that.

    But seriously, I do admire her brain. I surely hope she resurfaces soon. Same sentiments for Hope, too.

    Chris: sorry about the delay! My email is mumin_bey@yahoo.com. Please let me know if I’ve done things correctly. I was working from my smartphone so if not, I’ll try my home computer this time around. Looking forward to joining the team.

    Going back to the topic: I just want to make something clear, for the record: in no way do I want to give the impression that I have a problem w/women or anyone else being “choosy”. I believe in Freedom of Association, completely, and wholeheartedly affirm Members of the Double XX Chromosome Squad to pick whomever they choose, on whatever criteria they choose, and for whatever reason they choose.

    My personal problem, having said that, and Roissy himelf speaks to this in his post about a Gynocentric World (w/T concurring) is that quite a few women have serious problems affirming tht same right of Freedom of Association for the Fellas. We see this in the IMBRA portion of VAWA, the vehement opposition to Roe for Men, and even howls of “discrimination” men can get insurance coverage for Viagra, yet women cannot for birth control (a wholly whacked argument to begin with, in my view).

    More later.

    Salaam
    Mu

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  64. on November 5, 2008 at 3:31 pm Maira

    A lot of the stuff you write is so ancient, the concepts are so old, that I don’t understand why on earth people here even bother discussing it.

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  65. on November 5, 2008 at 4:14 pm Anonymous

    63 Mu’Min

    But seriously, I do admire her brain. I surely hope she resurfaces soon. Same sentiments for Hope, too.

    Well, I have both of their email addresses, but I can’t exactly summon them at will — I don’t expect either of them to reappear unless we have something sufficiently interesting going on.

    Chris: sorry about the delay! My email is mumin_bey@yahoo.com. Please let me know if I’ve done things correctly. I was working from my smartphone so if not, I’ll try my home computer this time around. Looking forward to joining the team.

    Yeah, you’ll need to try again, since WordPress is claiming there aren’t any users with that email address.

    I noticed that apostrophes are not allowed in the username, so maybe that was the problem? (You’d have to go with something like “MuMin” instead of “Mu’Min”; though you can have your name displayed as pretty much whatever you want. E.g. my name is now displayed as “Chris”, but that’s not what I log in as.)

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  66. on November 5, 2008 at 4:16 pm Chris

    Oops, my name was not actually displayed as “Chris” there since I logged out before posting the comment, and tried to create an account for you (that’s how I found out about the “Mu’Min” problem). Anyway, that was me.

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  67. on November 5, 2008 at 5:21 pm Mu'Min

    Maira 64,
    I’m sorry, were you speaking to me? If so, could you please explain what it is exactly, that I’ve said that is “so old”? Thanks.

    Chris, thanks for the heads up. I’ll be on it later this evening.

    Salaam
    Mu

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  68. on November 5, 2008 at 5:22 pm roissy

    A lot of the stuff you write is so ancient, the concepts are so old, that I don’t understand why on earth people here even bother discussing it.

    you may as well ask why people bother discussing anything at all. because there is nothing new under the sun. the wheel may spin but human nature stays the same.

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  69. on April 8, 2009 at 11:14 am The Worst (Or Best) Rejections I Ever Got « Roissy in DC

    […] you aren’t prepared to brush off the bitchiest rejections like so much gossamer femsnark, you aren’t ready to play this […]

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  70. on June 17, 2009 at 12:34 am Nat

    What is the seduced still knows you well enough to know that she has higher social value than you do (Alpha Female) and walks away after you reject her – never to speak to you again? And you know she has chosen to be on her own rather than chase you.

    Is that still an ego boost?

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  71. on September 23, 2009 at 7:27 am she

    “Next said..
    What is the seduced still knows you well enough to know that she has higher social value than you do (Alpha Female) and walks away after you reject her – never to speak to you again? And you know she has chosen to be on her own rather than chase you.

    Is that still an ego boost?”

    I had a similar question: If the man rejects, or maybe even just blows off a girl who is actually “worth it” to get an ego boost, what does that really say about him? Doesn’t that just make him an idiot? Of course, I guess the point of Alpha-ness is not that you should, but that you can, right?

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  72. on September 23, 2009 at 7:29 am she

    sorry I meant, “Nat”

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  73. on September 23, 2009 at 10:31 am Firepower

    its only fun
    to reject a
    “worth it” girl
    if she’s really
    stupid

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  74. on May 31, 2010 at 10:07 am point post

    well when you think of it, it would seem that their are definitly reasons to reject women. sometimes them being, to get your life in order and prepare yourself for something that could actually be worth putting your precious time and energy into. Just think how it is sometimes a climb to get anywhere in life and when you are in a relationship that you give the time of day, assuming your a decent man of a semblence of morality, where is all your time to work on you and your career? its kind o sad but the reality sometimes, not all the time seems to be that women like men who have it together… and having it together would sometimes mean just not for a future relationship but also for your own wellbeing….does that make sense?

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  75. on December 26, 2010 at 10:37 am Freedom Fan

    Look around you; there is a huge surplus of women.(after all, women don’t fight in war.) There are so many of them,ignoring them should be the rule, not exception.

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  76. on March 31, 2011 at 1:08 am J Beatty

    When it comes down to it….it’s all about control. Control you do not have….desire to have…. but never will. Any woman worth having sees through this crap fellas.

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  77. on April 13, 2011 at 12:04 pm Jonathan Manor

    I started deleting girls on facebook. I felt the need to stop adding girls who I was hoping to get to know better because it really cuts off the intimacy. The more I did it, it did hurt, but I felt really better. It’s like minimalism.

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