If you like to date younger women (and really, what man with options doesn’t?), here is a line that is practically guaranteed to set the right tone should the subject of age difference come up:
“I’ve noticed some women are nervous in the company of older men. It’s like they get intimidated and feel they aren’t good enough. You’re not like that, are you?”
The phrasing of this line implies that you date a lot of younger women, so there is nothing unusual about her being attracted to you. It also assumes your higher value. Play it up by dropping challenges like “I’ve learned that only classy, intelligent women can handle older men.” She will now spend some mental energy proving herself worthy of your interest. You may even want to use this line early on to preempt any future objections by her. Giggity!
Fair enough?
– MPM
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You’re not like that, are you?
If she’s a highish-T chick, the shining spotlight tone sounds fine. But if she’s the girly type — truly, not wolf in sheep’s clothing girly — she might get too nervous with the accusatory tone. Maybe something like:
“But you’re not like that, right?” with a playful but still skeptical look.
It’s not a huge change in wording, but the “are you?” bit could shut down a sensitive girl.
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Good use of “intimidated,” btw — their favorite qualifying word. “You’re not intimidated by a girl who….?” Now they can’t use it.
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“I’ve noticed some women are nervous in the company of older men. It’s like they get intimidated and feel they aren’t good enough. You’re not like that, are you?”
You’re serious? Oh my God.
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You’re too entertaining.
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gold… you need to write a post about minimizing flaking. i know comfort + wide and deep rapport = low flaking but somehow its still a problem
i will have to try that line on this 20 yr old. if shes doesnt flake on me….
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I can attest that this line works!
🙂 Giggity
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What if she answers “Yes, I am intimidated by older men. Because I know they only want me because I’m young.” That’s something like what I would have said to such a question at age 20 or so, and I wasn’t unusual in that way. Older men (more than 5-8 years older) really did make me nervous and suspicious of their motives. I usually tried to be polite to them if they showed an interest in me, but such a direct challenge would have been an invitation to take the gloves off.
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I’d have answered, “Oh. Wait, is that all you think you bring to the table? Being young? I’m sorry, maybe I misjudged you.” Then acted like I was losing interest. Maybe even said “Nice meeting you.” and walked off to talk to someone else.
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Being a (much) older guy is not that attractive to most females, in and of itself. While older men have more resources, their sagging jawlines, wrinkled brows, and expanded bellies , are no more attractive on men than they are on women. But because women place a higher premuim on resources, many women are willing to overlook that. Guys definitely have a “sell-by” date as well, evn though it may not be the cliff that it is for women, there is still a pretty steep decline after a certain time limit. There is nothing more pathetic than seeing the old guy in the club, trying to pick up on the younger girls, and unless he is quite wealthy, the girls trying, but not succeeding, in hiding their repulsion.
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Manifesto, please explain to me what using a specific way of talking to women has to do with being an alpha.
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G-Man,
I wanted to thank you for that pearl of wisdom, the SSQ format. That’s something I’ll definitely be comitting to memory for frequent deployment in the future.
Salaam
Mu
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I did check the link, but it doesn’t explain anything, it just asserts that “statement – statement – question” has something to do with being an alpha.
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mmm. young (and more likely) to be supple vag. 🙂
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Yeah, that’s nice and all but I prefer something like the following.
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tokyojesusfist – “I did check the link, but it doesn’t explain anything, it just asserts that “statement – statement – question” has something to do with being an alpha.”
From what I gather this is how these guys roll. Make a simplified observation from personal experience, couch it in bad hyperbole, assert it as truth and voila! You are a philosopher-king 😉
It can make for entertaining reading though. Think about it, this is their role model:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mystery_(pickup_artist)
I wouldn’t expect too much.
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Its not about being a “philosopher-king”.
Statement – Statement – Question is just a very powerful way of speaking.
Especially when you want something. IE girls. Or influencing people. Or in a business deal.
“Think about it, this is their role model:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mystery_(pickup_artist)”
No role model for me. You are confusing me with a “pick up artist”.
– MPM
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TJF/Tracinho
You would be a lot more credible if you offered alternatives.
S-S-Q doesn’t work because X. Instead try Y. It works better. That’s a testable hypothesis.
or
Normal girls don’t shit test, so acting like they are is counter-productive. Instead try X to pick up girls. This is also a testable hypothesis.
But if instead you just snarkily mock other ideas without offering any of your own to counter… well you might as well just get a news show on Comedy Central
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In other news, childless women play with fake babies:
http://abcnews.go.com/2020 (Jan 2nd: Reborns: dolls made to look real)
“It feels like I have a real baby”
“When they think it’s real, it’s amazing to me, it’s actually amazing”
“It’s extremely difficult to get a [real] child”
Sexbots for men, dollbots for women.
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“There is nothing more pathetic than seeing the old guy in the club, trying to pick up on the younger girls”
There is also nothing more smooth than seeing an older G pull it off.
Thats me in 20 years. (Maybe not in “the club” though).
– MPM
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Seeking Alpha, define “better.” Why would I do things that would attract a girl I don’t like or admire?
You people always talk of qualifying, but it’s bullshit. You’re just doing bullshit fake qualifying so the girl thinks she’s being qualified so you can get into the tunnel that you so worship. It’s still beta at the heart of it.
Tokyo and Trancho are talking about actual no-shit qualifying. That means behaving in a way that attracts an admirable female, which, yes, turns a lot of lame and manipulable females off.
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“Ive noticed some women are nervous in the company of fat,ugly,poverty-stricken older men who are gawking at them like they want to eat them alive…Its like they get intimidated and feel theyre not good enough. You’re not like that,are you?” “No.”
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Thats a cold read
“I’ve noticed some women are nervous in the company of older men”
Another cold read
“It’s like they get intimidated and feel they aren’t good enough”
If its a qualifying statement then it should be phrased as a statement not a question. It makes the analysis more difinitive.
” You’re not like that, are you?
There’s nothing “killer” about this.
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I have been involved with significantly younger women than myself. There were two varieties: the first, and more common, is that an emotional bond is established first, and then something more may happen later. These were younger women I knew from my daily life, my work life, or in other areas, and neither of us was really intending anything to happen when we met. Life just turns out in strange ways. The second type is the younger woman who just enjoys for whatever reasons having an affair with an older man. These were more purely physical.
The problem with younger women is that they are intellectually and emotionally immature. Once you get past their pussies their is really not a whole lot going on there, except for girlish drama. After having experienced these I have become tired of that sort of thing, and enjoy the company of women closer to my own age. Sure, their bodies are not as hot, but they can at least carry on an intelligent conversation with you. And they generally have less drama.
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Also, it puts the man in the rather pathetic position of being rejected because he may be too old. I think it is best just to avoid that position as much as possible. Pussy is not worth losing your dignity over.
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Her self-qualifying should be enough if your head’s in the right place. The greater you own opinion of your value the more others will agree. I find the less I show my hand the better my results. No point in debating these things with women, it’s inherently approval seeking.
http://alphadominance.com/?p=510
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I enjoy your blog immensely and agree with you 95+% of the time, but I can’t help but suspect that this qualification line you’ve provided here is really a red herring you’re offering to those readers who don’t really understand your ideas and are really just parroting anything you tell them to say. this line sounds so incredibly stilted and is such an obvious attempt at reverse psychology that I can almost see it being used by “that character” in a movie who thinks he’s good with women but is really a laughing stock.
breaking it down: “I’ve noticed some women are nervous in the company of older men.”
fair enough I guess, but I think a smart girl is instantly going to think you’re insecure about your age because you’re drawing attention to it. wouldn’t it be more alpha to (blithely, perhaps) proceed as though your age isn’t an issue at all? this question is not rhetorical, I’m genuinely asking your opinion here.
“It’s like they get intimidated and feel they aren’t good enough.”
IMHO, this is where the wheels fall off. when I said the line sounds stilted, this is where. if I were on the receiving end of a line such as this in an analogous social situation, I don’t know if I’d have a harder time containing my vomit or my fit of laughter, especially if it’s quickly followed by “You’re not like that, are you?” you’re taking something unequivocally negative (you being older), attempting to frame people who view it as a negative as flawed for thinking it is, and then goading those people to agree with you that viewing that negative as a negative is disappointing and stupid. the naked attempt at reverse psychology here is, I would think, laughable to most halfway intelligent women.
imagine this scene in an episode of Family Guy: for whatever reason, Joe Swanson and his perpetually pregnant wife split up, and Joe is back on the dating circuit. he’s at a swank lounge on a date with an attractive girl, and says to her: “I’ve noticed some women are nervous in the company of paraplegic men. It’s like they get intimidated and feel they aren’t good enough. You’re not like that, are you?” I suspect most of the audience would laugh, knowing the feeble maneuver Joe is trying to pull here. and I can see now how the writers of the show would have the girl respond: she’d roll her eyes and come up with a really lame, obvious excuse as to why she has to go home. “No, I’m not like that at all, and this has been fun, but I really have to go home and sharpen the blades on my garbage disposal. Thanks for the drink.” see also: that scene in Good Will Hunting when Professor Lambeau is trying to convince an attractive, younger woman how a difficult mathematical theorem is “very erotic”.
not trying to pick a fight with you, and I promise I’m not one of the “hater readers”, but I just can’t bring myself to believe that this line would work on any but the dumbest of girls.
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fair enough I guess, but I think a smart girl is instantly going to think you’re insecure about your age because you’re drawing attention to it. wouldn’t it be more alpha to (blithely, perhaps) proceed as though your age isn’t an issue at all?
bill, in the big picture, you’re right. it’s best to avoid bringing up the age issue at all if she hasn’t brought it up. my suggestion for when to use this line is as a preemptive neutralizer of any objections to the age difference that you have a strong suspicion she holds. how will you know if it’s on her mind? only experience dating a lot of younger women can tell you that. it’s just a certain vibe you have to feel for. as for the line itself, i have used it to great effect. while it may sound stilted to your ears as you read it on a page, in real life it comes across well. perhaps the sincerity of the line can only be delivered in conjunction with the right body language.
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