Craigslist is coughing up some gems lately.
Reasons I Like My Cats More Than Any Man I Have Dated in the DC Area – 23 (For Anti-Cat Man)
Reply to: XXX
Date: 2009-01-27, 10:00AM EST
Dedicated to the old, cat-hating man…I’ve provided a list of reasons that my two kitties are better than any of the men I’ve gotten involved with in the DC area.
• My cats have never taken me on a date to the 7/11.
• My cats have never pretended to be the love of my life, then disappeared into thin air without even the courtesy of a post-it note explanation.
• My cats have never lied about being Navy SEALs. Not once. Actually, my cats don’t lie AT ALL.
• My cats are ALWAYS in the mood to cuddle.
• Cleaning up after them is much easier than cleaning up after a man.
• My cats have never drunk half a bottle of Jack Daniel’s then tried to break my arms.
• My cats have never lied to me about being married to try to get me into bed.
• They’re not afraid to show their love and affection, which is unconditional.
• My cats are VERY intelligent.
• They aren’t obsessed with Asian women.
• They would NEVER intentionally hurt me.
• They clean themselves daily.
• They aren’t insecure.
• They’re very low-maintenance.
• They have never betrayed me.
• They like ALL different kinds of people…blonds, brunettes, redheads. Because they’re not fixated on narrow, exclusive sets of physical attributes.
So when faced with the decision of whiny man versus loyal cats, I’ll go with the cats any day…
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She sounds like one of my exes. Always bitching. Her standards are way too high. What’s wrong with 7-11? With the right attitude and cocky smirk a guy can turn a microwaved burrito into a cherished romantic memory for the girl.
How much you want to bet she completely forgave him and had a squirting orgasm that night after he tried to break her arms in a drunken stupor? Women… their tales of woe fall on deaf alpha ears.
Cats suck because they carry Toxoplasma gondii. This is a parasite that infects your brain and turns you into a pussy and can even make you drive like a woman. If you think I’m making this up – do a google search.
Cats = Beta Wussy.
Edgar Allen Poe loved to kill cats in his stories. He had the right idea.
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Interesting tidbit, according to Wikipedia:
~11% of US has Toxoplasma gondii.
~88% of France has it
Since I’m not a France basher like most Americans, I’ll leave it to readers to figure out which country takes aspirin in suppository form by a 60:1 ratio.
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There’s also a Facebook group called “Chances Are I Like My Dog Better Than You.” From the comments section, it looks like it’s mostly women. Here is an actual comment:
“I have an English Bull Terrier called Noka and her love is unconditional, no strings attached, no hidden agendas, isn’t it a shame we humans cant adopt the same philosophy on life.
The world would be a much better place to live in!!!”
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My cat would probably attack her, like he did that bitch of a neighbor I have.
Just goes to show that cat ladies are just as resentful of righteous cats as righteous men.
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My cat would probably attack her, like he did that bitch of a neighbor I have.
Just goes to show that cat ladies are just as resentful of righteous cats as righteous men.
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Oops, sorry about the duplicate. html mistake.
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Dammit, youtube now has HD. Mein gott:
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=PWUcIn1GGmE&feature=related
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=MAx1Jockkkk
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• Cleaning up after them is much easier than cleaning up after a man.
This statement tells you everything you need to know. How hideous must she be to have to bottom feed for men who are more dirty than creatures that leave boxes of shit around the house?
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Wow, that sorta sounds like my porn rants from a private conversation some time ago…
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This guy has graciously uploaded the 2005=2007 VS fashion shows in HD:
http://ca.youtube.com/user/AkaiRinggo
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My favorite:
“My cats have never lied to me about being married to try to get me into bed.”
Notice how that doesn’t say, “My cats have never lied to me about not being married to try to get me into bed.”
While I feel sorry for the caty lady that it seems she’s been the victim of some domestic abuse in the past, she also doesn’t appear to be the classiest gal around, either.
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For all you self-proclaimed “decent men” who delude themselves into thinking that Roissy doesn’t actually hate women (justifying his behaviour as being some kind of benevolent, if risque, service for the socially-retarded), what can you possibly make of his last few posts?
This is a man who holds himself up as the ultimate male role model, while demeaning and deriding every women who crosses his path. The telling thing is that he does it whether she is into him or knocks him back. This is a man who so lacks self-awareness that he’s not only unembarrassed to consistently blame others for every unpleasant experience he has ever had, but to broadcast every little detail to his pathetic tribe of internet dweebs who are living the “alpha dream” only in their woefully illiterate comments. This is a man who obviously has an empty-enough day to spend a hour drafting little stories for a website that doesn’t even pull advertising, and for which the merest mention on a feminist blog sends him into a hysterical ranting of the “I know you are, I said you are, so what am I?” variety.
Honestly – it’s not that difficult. Women like real men who are strong in themselves and have a forthright relationship with the world and the people in it. Women like that in the men they want to marry, in the men they want to fuck, in the men they want to be friends with. Don’t be fooled by this guy, or you’ll end up as a ridiculous douche too.
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so “Joyz” its safe to say that Roissy is fully in touch with his feminine side. you kind of prove his points thou’ with all your “women want & women like” whining. Problem is what men want aint the likes of you.
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Yes, but a cat who isn’t toilet trained has one distinctive disadvantage.
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They aren’t obsessed with Asian women
Yeah, but they can’t resist a hott Siamese cat.
Peter
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@Joyz “This is a man who holds himself up as the ultimate male role model, while demeaning and deriding every women who crosses his path.”
I am not sure I have ever seen a post where Roissy holds himself up as a role model, he’s just posting assorted views, dating advice and hints on how to pick up women. Judging by the comments, which for the most part are well written and articulate, the people who follow this site are regular guys who, myself included, find his blog an amusing way to kill some time while at work.
If you find his postings so unpleasant why don’t you trot off and find a nice blog written by other like-minded females?
Finally, I would add that your comment that women like “men who are strong in themselves” is laughable – most couples I know involve a weak male being manipulated by a dominant female. Roissy’s postings are simply trying to readdress the balance, surely as someone who likes “strong males” you should be thanking him for encouraging men to be a little less beta
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Joyz,
Are my comments poorly written? Or “woefully illiterate”? I am not baiting you; when there is an error in my grammar, style, or spelling, I am only too happy to be corrected. How else will I become a better writer?
(If, perchance, you think there is a comma too many in the above sentence, think about a dedication: “I have written this novel for my parents, Einstein and God.”)
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It is amusing how much Western women are afraid of Asian women.
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OT, I know, but check out this pic where the 5’5″ alpha Sarkozy is making Obama his beta bitch:
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“most couples I know involve a weak male being manipulated by a dominant female”
Absolutely correct. Google “chinweizu” for a explanation
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gig, you’ve read chinweizu? that is hand’s down the best book on male-female western relations i have EVER read in my whole life.
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also, JAM, i’m no fan of obama in the least, but even i have to admit that you’re reaching on that sarkozy/obama pic. how exactly is he making obama his beta bitch?
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@gig
Googling chinweizu I come up with a Nigerian writer and a lot of links on him… can you drop a link to the book itself? Thanks!
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One’s eye is drawn to Sarkozy. His gaze is front and centre into the camera; Obama’s is askew.
Obama is leaning in and stooped. Sarkozy’s ramrod straight, though he’s the shorter of the two.
Sarkozy’s got a Byronic underlook going on; Obama is just grinning.
Sarkozy’s handshake is strong and placed over Obama’s.
Sarkozy is ‘supporting’ Obama with his left hand.
Obviously both guys are world leaders, and a different picture might show the opposite. But in this picture, one dude is the alpha, and it’s the half-Jew, not the half-Luo.
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the book is with limited availability in Amazon. The title is “Anatomy of female power: A masculinist dissection of matriarchy ” Just search it in amazon.
T
I think he describes male-female relationships everywhere. His abundance of nigerian examples is proof of that. Reading it, I think that in any society 80% of males will betas or omegas. If society is such that force men and women to marry (does someone knows if sharia forbids cats? I know they hate dogs!) those 80% will be mostly dominated by their spouses. Anywhere.
And what you think is exactly that “Female Power”? The power to take you to her parents in a sunday afternoon instead of watching soccer in TV? The power of chosing whose car will be more expensive, yours or hers?
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@ ian: the book is Anatomy of Female Power. I recommend it to everyone.
@ JAM: I think it just highlights how short Sarkozy is, but whatever floats your boat. Even in the worst interpretation, it hardly conveys anything as bad as “beta bitch.” I think a video is more important, photos just captures a moment in time. Who knows how they were standing 1 minute earlier or 1 minute later. For example here’s another split-second where Obama is patting him in a patronizing way almost like an older brother does to his kid brother:
And what does half-Jew or half-Luo have to do with it at all? Besides, if Obama was as weak as you say in the pic, how do you know it wasn’t his white half that was responsible?
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Roissy, be honest, sometimes this blog is just the male version of that list: ‘Why I like My Bitch (Canis sp.) More Than Any Whiny Bitch (Homo sapiens sp.) I Have Dated in the DC Area’
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Alpine says, “…you should be thanking him for encouraging men to be a little less beta”
Goodness, if only…
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This sentence also makes no sense. What do you mean “even though he’s the shorter of the two?” Isn’t being shorter precisely a reason why one wouldn’t HAVE to stoop? Why would a shorter man even have stoop in the first place to shake a taller man’s hand and stay in the picture frame? You say “though he’s the shorter” as if the shorter man is usually the more likely to stoop and Sarkozy has somehow managed to avoid stooping because he’s so much more alpha. That doesn’t even make sense.
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Yah JAM or perhaps the photograher said “President Obama could you lean down a bit, I know that Sarkozy is standing one stair higher than you but you are still too tall and commanding to fit in the picture, oh and hold and support his hand for him Mr. President, Sarkozy looks like he is going to fall”
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JAM:
What you are witnessing is a common practise found in Western culture. It is called “shaking hands.”
The terms alpha and beta don’t mean anything, so you might as well say that one dude is X and the other is Y.
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T-Raw,
If you don’t mind, could you briefly explain why you find Chinweizu’s work so profound? I looked him up in Wikipedia and read his bio. Thanks!
O
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It basically made me realize that women rule the world in all the ways that matter and we as men only think we do.
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shit, that jack daniels one might have been me. once i get that whiskey in me, i get a little antsy in the pantsy.
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Tokyo, alpha and beta do have a meaning in biology, concerning social animals (incl. humans). It is used a bit more loosely than it should be in the PUA community, and completely butchered here because well…look around. Most of these guys have apparently never had to really test their mettle against another human being.
So if it seems meaningless in the discussion here, it’s only because of the people using it rendering it meaningless by attempting to define themselves and others in terms that they don’t even understand.
Something interesting…in some animals, there is no alpha male. The highest ranking male ranks lower than the lowest ranking female. In humans, there is considerable overlap because of alpha pairing. The highest ranking male and female in a group will often be married to each other, or at least in the same family (like king and queen-mother).
An alpha type person is someone who has plausible potential to become the alpha male in a group.
So, like it or not, Obama is the alpha male of the U.S. or at least the apparent one. Globally, the alpha male is likely some arms dealer who plays everyone else like pawns.
Everyone else are runners up, wannabes, followers by nature, those who opt out regardless of their potential or abilities, or those completely unable to do much for themselves.
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Anatomy of Female Power – out of print and completely unavailable on Amazon. If its so groundbreaking why is it so unavailable? I’m just saying…
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Ragtag, in my experience, the more out of print a book is, the better its insights. In our politically correct society, doesn’t it make sense that a book that speaks ugly truths would be MORE likely to not find a publisher than one that speaks reassuring fictions? Look at any gender relations book that tops the NY Times bestselling books list for example. Out of print is actually an endorsement for a book, not an indictment.
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Well fire up the printing press and lets get some more copies. Or send me yours.
I mean, there aren’t even any “used” or in “new” condition from other companies.
I’m not going to start checking but any book on the NY Times bestseller I’ve ever picked up off amazon is at least available in some form on Amazon – brand new or used.
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This is the premise of Chinweizu’s book:
What takes it beyond the level of most pro-men book is that it claims that women ruled the world even before the rise of modern feminism. In fact, modern feminism has actually hurt women’s power, not helped it, because traditional society allowed the man to believe he was in power while the woman actually pulled the strings. Since he fooled himself into believing he was running the show, the woman’s base of power was never threatened.
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ktulah:
I know they’re terms used in biology, and I was referring to their usage by the PUA community.
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[…] Roissy in D.C. finds the District’s youngest cat lady. Quoth the cat lady, “My cats have never taken me on a date to the 7/11. My cats have never […]
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JerrDogg, that Toxoplasma gondii tidbit is fascinating. Here’s another excerpt from WP:
“One study suggests that a possible behavior modification is that people not infected with the parasite found women with toxoplasma more attractive than women who don’t have toxoplasma.”
Could it be that becoming a cat-lady is an adaptation that increases a woman’s odds in her years of declining SMV?
(Off-topic: could someone tell me what tag to use to make the fancy block-quote in a reply?)
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No, that’s my point. When a book is on the NY Times bestseller list, that means it has a very broad appeal to both beta males and women, meaning it’s probably loaded with reassuring fictions more than ugly truths. For these reasons, they stay popular and remain in print. Older out of print books tend to be way more politically incorrect and filled with ugly truths. That’s why many of them won’t get touched by mainstream publishers won’t touch them with a ten foot pole and they won’t ever get on a bestseller list as beta males and women won’t ever buy them and will try to shut them down. For example look at how so many PUAs and men’s rights guys have to self-publish their stuff.
I bought it online at a website specializing in black-themed books after doing a lot of googling, but I can’t remember the site now and my searches are turning up nothing, so maybe the site is out of business. I found a site in the UK that still sells it, but only to UK customers. If I find a US seller I’ll post the link here.
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To do blockquotes, surround the text with [blockquote] and [/blockquote], except change the [‘s to <‘s.
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Yeah, I found that toxoplasma thing fascinating too.. who would have known that cats make you beta!
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podunk,
Indeed, the implications of Toxoplasma gondii and what it can cause are interesting. It really should be studied more, it certainly has many potential applications where it could be weaponized for “soft war” that would be of tremendous interest to the military and intelligence communities. In the mean time, I’m only eating cooked meat and keeping cats out of my life.
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mm. we’re not afraid of asian women at all.
this particular lady, who seems to be a pain in the ass btw, has all reasons to be afraid of anyone less whiny than her.
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Nicole,
Excellent pointss wrt Alpha/Beta males. It makes perfect sense that “Omega” males would get even lower rank than lower ranked females because of thew inherent bio imbalances: Women only have one womb & a limited amount of eggs, and a limited amount of time to make use of them; Men on the other hand have for all intents unlimited amounts of sperm and for all intents, an entire lifetime to make use of them. Therefore, Women are inherently more valuable than Men, *unless* some kind of “marketlplace correction* happens. Hence Alpha/Beta.
Since all Men hav an abundance of sperm, Women look to other qualities that will assist her in Survival both for her and her kids.
Mystery discusses this at some length in his book.
In The Game, Mystery gives “six of the five characteristics” of the Alpha Male per his definition. As he is a widely recognized voice in the field I should hope what he has to say should suffice for our discussion.
I happen to keep The Game and other such materials in my kickback; at lunchtime I’ll be more than happy to post Mystery’s passage.
That’s 12Noon EST today.
Lastly, the PUA is heavily “R&D”focused-theories are formulated and then actually live tested. Hence what are known as Field Reports, periodic postings by PUAs that give detailed accounts of the methods they apply in the field. These FRs are invaluable tools to the field and can act stand alone in teaching any Man Game.
More later.
O
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The terms are, in broad terms, used the same way in biology as in PUA. In biology, the alpha male gets the ladies. In PUA, any behavior that will increase sexual activity is considered ‘alpha’.
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T.:
I have been trying to find the Chinweizu book on your recommendation for a while and haven’t come up with anything either.
BTW, completely off topic again, but what do you think of that first video I linked to? IIRC, you’re an Alizee fan too. The days of plenty are upon us.
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Maria
asian women (i.e feminine women who doesn’t get fat because they eat moderately and age slowly because they have healthy diets, good genetics and avoid the sex and the city lifestyle) are a plague to unfeminine women, careerist women, feminists and cougars who denied reality when young and suddenly discovered that alphas weren’t interested in them after a certain age but were to much deluded to lower their standards.
Women brainwashed by feminist bs to be precise. WOmen from the anglo-saxon world. In Brazil or Russia, the asian bride is a non-issue. Let feminism grow in those places, and brides from china will appear in your neighbourhood
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J.D. Unwin’s Sex and Culture (1934) is another long out of print book that has some rather unpopular conclusions. I managed to find a pdf copy online. Carle Zimmerman’s Family and Civilization was out of print too until an obscure house decided to reprint an abridged version.
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Hey Thursday, you have a link to that pdf?
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T.:
Daaaaamn. She does have the best hip action ever, doesn’t she.
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“So, like it or not, Obama is the alpha male of the U.S. or at least the apparent one. Globally, the alpha male is likely some arms dealer who plays everyone else like pawns.”
That global alpha male would be the head of the Chinese sovereign wealth investment fund… the one that owns almost all of U.S. treasury notes and would be the one to allow Obama to borrow Chinese money to fund the U.S. deficit in the form of a stimulus.
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It’s not the Chinese sovereign wealth fund that owns all those treasuries, it’s the Chinese central bank. And they own far less than ‘almost all of the U.S. treasury notes’.
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“Mystery discusses this at some length in his book… I happen to keep The Game and other such materials in my kickback; at lunchtime I’ll be more than happy to post Mystery’s passage.”
LOL at quoting him as a source. He’s a clown.
He’s great at picking up chicks in bars, but let’s not quote him for anything beyond that. And all your reading of his “materials” ain’t gonna do much for you.
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Unwin’s book is available from the same guy who put up the Devlin articles.
http://public.box.net/mensarefugee26388
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“we’re not afraid of asian women at all.”
That’s because you’re dripping wet for unobtainable types like Obama or Brad Pitt or whoever.
Why don’t you check back in 20 years when you’re wrinkled, fat, still single or divorced, and your Asian female counterpart is happily married to the nerdy white guy and raising a well-adjusted, well-to-do family?
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T.:
I know it would be a lot of work, but I’d like to see if you could find a way to put the Chinweizu work up on the net somehow.
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Seeking Alpha:
They aren’t used with even a minimal amount of accuracy or consistency by PUAs.
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TJF – So why don’t you drop the exaggeration and point out how alpha is used in a way other than describing behavior that will increase sexual activity.
Keep in mind that you can disagree with other people’s ideas of what constitutes alpha behavior – they think action X will increase sexual activity and you don’t – but that’s not an example of them using the term wrong, that’s an example of a disagreement over tactics.
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Thanks for the link. I won’t manually scan it myself, but I’ll look into seeing if I can find an inexpensive service in New York that will do it for me. If anyone has a recommendation for such services, let me know.
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Since we’re trading books here,does anyone know where you might find downloadable material from Robert Briffault,Amaury De Reincourt,bachoffen’s MOTHER RIGHT,or Henri De Montherlant?
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I’m not convinced myself Obama is an alpha. His relationship with his wife/political career seem very beta to me. Would love to be proven wrong.
Then again, he’s not my president.
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reminds me of the slags who claim that chocolate “really is better than sex” (yeah, if you can’t get any sex, sure, i guess it is). reverse psychology…what she means is she is utterly devoid of emotion and life in her soul…wishing nothing more than for some man to make her not feel like the old, screeching harpy that she is. stupid slag.
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It’s funny that she mentions cats.
Cats fucking suck.
Cats use you for shelter and food and return affection only on their terms. It’s never unconditional.
It doesn’t make sense that she would love a cat more than a man. Then again, maybe it does.
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Cats smell. Even after that are long gone.
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Hey, T. Ricky Raw, this comment may be accurate enough – It basically made me realize that women rule the world in all the ways that matter and we as men only think we do. – but men certainly have ways of extracting revenge for it. I always think that the nastier masculinist societies (think the Taliban etc.) with their rules and laws and so forth that regulate women’s activities in the public sphere, are men’s way of avenging themselves on women for their power in the private sphere.
Clio
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Nicole,
As promised, the following comes from the book The Game, Mystery’s “six of the five characteristics” of an Alpha Male:
1. Smile
2. Confidence
3. Well-Groomed
4. Sense of Humor
5. Connecting w/People
6. Being Seen As The Social Center Of The Room
The Game, page 21.
Any questions one and all, holla.
The Obsidian
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I have to thank the cat ladies.
Several times when invited home to a woman’s apartment, I have discovered that the previously lovely young lady was a cat lady. That gave me a signal that such a woman was not worthy of anything more than a booty call–to my apartment.
It is the same when a girl tells me she has a “thing” for rappers or that she “loves Obama” (one little slut told me that “we finally have a president with swagger”—then was astounded I didn’t stay the night once I did my business) or that she is a “feminist” or that she “majored in women’s studies.”
I thank women for being so stupid. These obvious signs of harpiness give me ample warning of what these women are worth. It’s like I don’t even have to try to figure them out anymore—just observe them enough and they’ll give up their secrets.
I pity the poor boys who get suckered in and ignore these signs because, perhaps, she gives good head or she is really good looking. Their’s is a long road of misery before finally breaking free.
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Clio, I actually agree with you. I don’t subscribe to book’s ultimate proposals of masculinist utopias. I inherently distrust all preaching of utopias, as they are the first step in any irrational cultlike thinking and mass suspension of critical reasoning. The problem is, we hear criticisms of extreme masculinist societies all the time, and can even find many criticisms of radical feminism. What we don’t find often is a good critique of the flaws of the traditional Western model of gender relations as the ultimate expression of a female dominated society. That’s why I like the book so much.
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Seeking Alpha:
The terms are used in completely random and arbitrary ways. Basically anything can make you alpha or beta, like what kind of rice you like to eat.
Obsidian:
This more than affirms my belief that “alphas” are basically just a bunch of girly men.
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“Cats use you for shelter and food and return affection only on their terms. It’s never unconditional. ”
Maybe if you wait around for their affection like a beta. It’s almost more fun to cuddle a fussy cat because it pisses them off so much. It’s like negging a hot chick.
“Cats smell. Even after that are long gone.”
Compared to dogs? No way. Unless you bathe a dog religiously, they reek. Especially when they get wet. If you have an outdoor cat, you don’t even need to worry about a litter box.
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By the way here’s a link that might interest some of you:
http://www.menstribune.com/home.htm
Just why do women love cats so much anyway?
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Lurker,
Perhaps you can explainsomething to me.
If I find a Woman not to my liking, my sexual interest in her wanes considerably, if not falls off a cliff. How is it that you can still find a gal suitable for sexual purposes if she is so at variance with your fundamental Programme? Please explain?
Thanks.
O
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If you have an outdoor cat, you don’t even need to worry about a litter box.
Just flees.
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Reasons I Like My Cats More Than Any Man I Have Dated in the DC Area
Wow, that list isn’t even subtle in its humiliating sadness. This woman was pumped and dumped and emotionally destroyed by a series of men with higher mate value than her until she dropped out of dating to be lonely with her cats.
Somehow, I doubt the ’23’ in the title is her age.
There were plenty of men you could have dated who would have taken you to expensive restaurants [bc they are desperate to win your approval], never cheated on you or left you [bc they have no other options], wouldn’t hurt you, and would cuddle with you, and help clean the house.
The problem with these men is they would not be able to make your pussy as wet as it could be. And now that you know what you’re missing you can never resort to one of them. It wouldn’t get wet at all.
So now you must die, die sad and alone, fair cat woman.
…………So remember nubile, young ladies, go beta and go beta as early as possible! Go beta and never look back! Fight the alpha urges! Suppress them! Run from them!
Email David Alexander right now!! Give yourself to him, after a few years of chaste dating. He will get a job just to wine and dine you until that time, and he will be yours eternally. After a year or so, you won’t even need to have sex with him anymore. Maybe a few times a month max. He will never cheat or stray. He will clean the kitchen and cuddle all night.
Don’t die alone with your cats…… Die alone with your beta! It’s ever so slightly better.
Email him now!!
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@ TJF – So even though the terms Alpha and Beta are used constantly around here, you can’t provide a single actual example that proves your own point? Not very bright.
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I think white women feel the same way about white guys who are into Asian chicks, as white guys feel about about white girls who are into black guys. Perhaps slightly threatening, and probably a little bit mental.
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Seeking Alpha:
I’m not going to go through thousands of messages just to prove something that should be obvious to every sentient creature that reads this blog. Both terms are used in preposterously random and inconsistent ways.
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If it was misused as often as you claim then you wouldn’t have to go through thousands of messages, you’d have to go through a handful. The weakness of your argument is clear. Your other posts make you seem like a rational male, but this head-in-sand defense is quite feminine.
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Just to clear up a myth about Asian women:
I’ve seen many, many, many naked Japanese women at every age in hot springs and it ain’t all pretty, believe me.
That is all.
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So remember nubile, young ladies, go beta and go beta as early as possible! Go beta and never look back! Fight the alpha urges! Suppress them! Run from them!
I figure you’re being satirical but I’d say the best bet for women with options is to marry a high-Beta or a lesser-Alpha.
That’s the sweet spot. Any lower than that, and she’ll not find him attractive. Any higher than a lesser-Alpha, and he’ll not be reliable, plus likely be unstable.
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Damn, that chick must have a tapeworm for cock, to have had so much experience by 23.
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Obsidian:
“If I find a Woman not to my liking, my sexual interest in her wanes considerably, if not falls off a cliff. How is it that you can still find a gal suitable for sexual purposes if she is so at variance with your fundamental Programme? Please explain? ”
—Please. We’ve all (hopefully only pre-Game) been there: we go home with a girl much less attractive than our standard because a hole is a hole is a hole.
However, with these signal crossers, we initially found them attractive, its just their personality is off for us to want to spend time with them.
But that makes the sex freer and bolder. With a chick I hate but still physically find hot, I just push the envelope to an extreme. it actually can encourage your alphaness, because you have no fear of telling an attractive-but-bitch woman to drink your cum out of a shot glass and then you pull out a camera as she does it. When you do it and realize that these women will do it gladly, it makes you much mroe bold all around with women. If these sluts are willing to be degraded and t, then even the ones you do respect are filthy whores.
Bonus: when you start disrespecting these little minxes, some of them get curious why their worthless bitch act doesn’t work. You’re free to tell them ” you’re a cat lady” or “feminism is the most illogical, evil, man-hating pseudo-philosophy on the plant, invented by man-hating lesbians with no more thought than their own victimhood and failures at everything” and fear no consequences. And when they hear it—boldly, blatantly, and coldly—that, because of their shortcomings, they are no good to the world outside of being a piece of meat—some of them might get the hint and lose the cat or forget the feminism.
Plus, what’s the worst that could happen? She decides to not have sex with you? Big deal. 10 of her desperate cat-loving Obamaphile sisters will line up for some cock from a real man, even if he is going to video tape her licking his shaft while her sister sucks the berries.
When the woman had physical appeal before, now its about using her like she wanted to use you. I find no problems in fucking a girl I hate.
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Here is another classic:
http://dontmarry.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/the_manipulated_man.pdf
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Seeking Alpha:
Which handful? Out of thousands?
What “head-in-sand defense”? I am merely pointing out the fact that the terms are used randomly and without any real meaning. What’s really feminine are all the badass PUA alphas whose sole concern in life is how women perceive them.
Hot Spring Mama:
Yes, I think everyone already knows that not every single Asian female is attractive.
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Seeking, the trouble that Tokyo may be having could be in attempting to describe what Alpha is, in terms guys here would understand.
I would liken such a task, on this site to say, playing the violin for a cow.
Or me trying to squeeze myself into a size 2.
It could be done, but it would be useless at best, painful at worst, and is guaranteed to get very very ugly.
All of us know it when we see it, smell it, shake its hand, or shag it though.
…but every time someone tries to articulate it, we’re either cussed out or told that the only bit of it that matters is what enables one to pick up women (D.O.B.A. definition).
Now, if PUA is a community, then the most effective one would be the alpha PUA technically. This doesn’t make him an alpha male in broader terms (as women are not the only resource a true alpha would have the most access to), but it makes him alpha enough for the moment.
Thing is, if he doesn’t have what to back that up with, it makes his game weak. So he has to get rid of the girl before she figures him out.
To me, that’s such a waste because love is such a wonderful thing. Love for one’s self can take a man really far in getting things like honor, courage, rock like stability, self control, and then extend outward in the ability to lead others, or follow like a good leader would follow. Men generally have this stuff built in, probably as a fail safe since the alpha has a tendency to die or be taken out of commission from time to time.
Maybe not every guy can be alpha, but hey…if my fairy, femme Gay friend can have my back Matrix style in a fight, then anybody with testicles can do a convincing have-her-at-hello sideways smile.
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Hot Spring Moma,
I’ve seen many naked Japanese women as well. I’d be the last to claim every woman in Japan is a ten, because they aren’t. There are plenty of fives. The argument is that there are fewer fatties and that is definitely true.
The facade (tatemae) differs from the reality (honne), but you just don’t see the disrespectful b*tch behavior as bemoaned here. I won’t say it never happens – it appears to be fairly common in the hostess/bargirl circle, which is as much like the rest of Japan as Disneyland is like the rest of the US.
The guys who romanticize the subservient Asian woman are only seeing the facade. It takes a while to get to reality. Sometimes, that reality can be really good. I mean world class keeper good. Sometimes, under the polite front, you discover she really is a b*tch.
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1) People like this crazy lady are often just venting; it’s not like this lady doesn’t want a guy, it’s just that most guys have, in her opinion, screwed her over. It’s like a beta boy talking about why he likes his blowup doll better than an actual woman. Of course it isn’t true.
Why do you even take people like this on?
2) I feel like this whole blog is basically instructing men how to mold themselves to what women want. Aside from the fact that women say they want a beta boy, we all know they want alpha guys…why should we force ourselves to change? Do you all really feel compelled to stand at a certain point in the room or change the way you talk, dress, speak just so that you get stick your dick in a hole?
3) This blog has a billion generalizations…most of which are obviously true. But does any of this shit make you guys happy? I mean we take it as a no brainer that fucking women makes people happy. It makes me happy, at least for a week or two. But all the other shit that I have to carry over while implementing the tenets of this blog…all the other high requirements I place on what I want in a woman and what I find desirable…that makes my life miserable (I read this blog because it is addictive and funny).
4) I just find it so damn unlikely that women leave men so often simply because the men are beta. Is there anything beyond anecdotal evidence to show this? (I might be biased, I don’t want to believe that if/when I get married, any guy who is more alpha than me can just come in and steal my bitch).
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Clock says, “I don’t want to believe that if/when I get married, any guy who is more alpha than me can just come in and steal my bitch.”
Then make loyalty the most important feature you select for.
Be the kind of guy a woman won’t be able to steal just because she’s prettier, and you’ll be more likely to attract the kind of woman who won’t get stolen by someone just because he’s more alpha.
For this though, you have to be alpha enough not to lose your mind just because someone is hot. A side benefit is that you’ll likely be more attractive to hot women because of this…but don’t commit to any of them until you run across one who has proven her loyalty to you.
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http://www.algonquinhotel.com/al_the_algonquin_cat.html
Ragdoll cats are the best. I have three. As far as what is better cats or men? Really stupid question, but I will say that the Italian idiot I was with hated cats basically. He was afraid of them. But then he was afraid of all animals and nature in general probably being stemming from his lack of exposure to anything natural whilst growing up in New York City. ANY man I am with in the future will love cats as much as I do….period.
The correct answer to: Which is better, men or cats, is BOTH.
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Sara I:
“ANY man I am with in the future will love cats as much as I do….period.”
—You forgot to add “or else,” bizznich
Sara: destined for 1) a beta or 2) a gay guy.
Thank you sara I for providing a major reason why guys need to learn game.
Guys, unless you want to end up with a ball-busting, cold-hearted, feminist rag like sara, learn how to control women like this and lose them from your life. pronto.
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Kthulah, that’s the most reasonable thing you’ve ever written here. Reward loyalty with loyalty. What a concept! But the Evo Psych aficionados who post here tend to look down upon such “quaint”, “outdated” notions as Character, so it’ll probably fall on mostly deaf ears.
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“Cats do a much better job of licking my pussy.” Why dont ewe get honest here??
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These are all vague thoughts just being put together, so I’m not even going to try to defend them. However, it is an effort to organize things a little in my head.
I stand by my comment that it is easier for a man to choose a 7 woman over an 8 woman than it is for a woman to choose a 7 man over an 8 man.
The practical result of this is that it is harder for male game to work than for female game. Also, women have little trouble, until they get older(see Cat Lady) in getting a high value man’s temporary attention. The primary focus of women would be getting his CONTINUED attention. However, certain techniques should still overlap.
Also, I think Wiskey’s idea that “everyone can’t be socially dominant’ is correct, BUT I think Game’s different techniques often don’t apply to social dominance at all.
For example, “Chicks Dig Mario Cart” is very, very loosely about Dominance. Or Dinner Dates are bad. Or when it is appropriate to start Day Dates. Industrial Park Clubs are not-so-hot anymore. Ect. Perhaps ‘terrain’ would be a good term to describe this section. Where you go with the girl, and what you do there(generally) to establish the right vibe. This would obviously apply to women as well, but the place and activity would be different.
For women, I would think properly establishing terrain would be very effective. Women have tendency to become Doormats once a man reaches a certain status level… that fails the Slut Test. Instead of becoming a doormat, establishing specific, scheduled events the man can count on. This ESTABLISHS relationship ‘terrain’ for you. You always cook his favorite meal for dinner on Wednesday(but not every day!). This makes it easier to have a relationship, because every single thing no longer has to be planned out, which just gets exhausting and self-annihilating once you reach a certain point(if you absolutely refuse to establish routines). Since the event, even sex, is specifically ‘bounded’ it helps pass the Slut Test… though maybe only a little.
Then, in an entirely different section, you have things like “The Cube” which clearly works, but is more about altering her internal state and establishing a connection.
Kino clearly works for both men and women, as Clio pointed out. However, perhaps female Kino would be more effective in places where it can’t be immediately acted on, where as male Kino is more effective were it can be acted on? The idea is to build the idea of desiring the woman in the man’s mind.
These are two very different techniques, but they both alter the state of the person, so I hardly think they fall under ‘terrain’.
Then we have straight-up dominance test stuff, like shit tests, how do deal with date cancelations, ect. For women, it would be the Slut Test. Clearly Whiskey’s statements apply very strongly to the Dominance test. This is the Test Category, The Dominance Test for men and the Slut Test for women. The Provider Test also for men, and I’m sure there is a least one other Test that women have to hop through. Anyone?
Then we have more general things about you behaviour.. which I’m really not sure is covered very much at all. I kind of think it’s been swallowed whole by the Dominance Test for men and the Slut Test for women. Looking at the wreckage of our culture, that conclusion seems to make a lot of sense. Oddly, the Apocalypse Opener may very well apply to this category.
However, I will say for women, you want to make yourself IMMEDIATELY more attractive to all men? Ask yourself, before you complain about something, wether you care about it at all. Even a little. This will stop a lot of your shit-test spam. Oh you’ll still do it, and men will still have to deal with it properly. But you can make the conscious attempt to minimize the spam. It’s annoying. Really, it is. So, before you complain, ask yourself, do you care at all about what your complaining about?
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Fabian, it’s quaint until one realizes that loyalty is not always sexual monogamy. It can include that, but isn’t limited to it.
If one is polyamorous though, loyalty to one’s primary partner or any additional partners would have to mean hard core responsibility. One would have to be loyal enough to not screw around chaotically, and not allow any outsiders or newcomers to threaten the stability of the family.
Loyalty, even for monogamous couples, would also mean that if one was unable to perform sexually with their genitals, that beyond a reasonable waiting time, they would service their partner in other ways or allow them to bring in extra partners who would not threaten the stability of the family.
When I say loyalty, I mean real nitty gritty dirt realistic loyalty…human to human, not idealized or pedestalized fantasy to sucker.
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Men who actually break the arms of their women tend to be of the lower (rock bottom) social class and all that, TV shows with well-dressed violent cads notwithstanding. The rest of it points the same way. And what women hang around those types?
It wouldn’t surprise me if the cat lady herself has a few tattoos, an on-again-off-again drug problem, no money and a crazy life.
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Kthulah, I agree entirely. Perhaps you missed my subtle jab at the character-doesn’t-matter-crowd. I don’t think loyalty is quaint at all. I put it in quotes because others find it quaint.
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Fabian, I wrote a poem some time ago, the gist of which was that someone who will always be young doesn’t need someone who will love them even when they’re old.
It is really a matter of needs and perspective. So even though I get a little frustrated at times that some don’t get it, what keeps me level in these conversations is that.
If one doesn’t need a loyal woman, then character really doesn’t matter to them. Maybe because it doesn’t, it shouldn’t.
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Clock — Yes of course any guy who is more Alpha can and will steal your woman.
This is in fact the signal attribute of soft polygamy systems like the Black Ghetto, White British underclass, West Africa, or … what we are seeing now among Middle and Upper Class Whites.
So, the response of men is to invest ZERO in women and children, and spread the seed. That’s the society created when women’s and men’s sexuality is not limited and controlled.
You can select for loyalty, but that’s much less common among women than men, because loyalty is not valued in women currently. Ktulah’s advice is in fact destructive and bad, because it is not you but the woman and her values that matter. And in any event, should you lose your dominance and value wrt other men, she will dump you in a heart beat. Suffer no loss of social standing, or censure. Indeed find approval.
Even selecting for loyalty, a woman still has so many options, no downside, and so on that you are rolling the dice with the odds against you. Being the kind of guy Ktulah suggests INCREASES the odds greatly you’ll see a Player steal your woman. Like it or not, women demand and want the most socially dominant man, and even don’t mind cheating that much, as long as it validates the desireability of their man.
Never listen to what a woman says makes a man successful with women. Instead look closely at what women DO showing how men are successful with women, in other words their choices not words.
Fabian — a good point … for 1955. Sorry to say, this is the era of Sex and the City. Look at Ktulah. Screwing other people is not loyalty. It’s disloyalty at it’s most primal.
As for cats (and dogs). They make wonderful pets. They enrich your life. They demand responsibility, care, love, discipline, and so on. Neither cats nor dogs are substitutes for human relationships, and both live so tragically short. There is nothing wrong with having a pet. There is a reason that humans domesticated both cats and dogs (and horses). But they don’t fix the inability to have relationships.
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Whiskey,
I’ve been asking you this but never got a straight answer from you: it sounds like you’re advocating restricting Women’s choices in the area(s) of sex, mates, etc. If this is indeed your position and view, exactly how do you propose putting a carrot and stick system into place?
Please explain?
Thanks.
The Obsidian
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Whiskey, I am definitely not living a SITC lifestyle…not by a very long stretch.
…and what I do is remain loyal to a man who doesn’t even have sex with me anymore. He got older and more into his fetish, and sexually, there was no more room for me.
I cook his food, pay my share of the bills (as I did even when we were married), do the rest of the girly chores except laundry, and am still very close to him…closer than some siblings. I take care of him.
So please spare me the women don’t know…some women do, and do as they say they will.
Granted, I’m not hot, which makes all that irrelevent to the vast majority of guys posting here…but to a guy who wants loyalty no matter what, I’m as good as it gets, and have no confidence issues around that.
I’m a freak of nature and happy to be so, but I’m not the only one in the world.
Like others keep saying, one would be a fool not to play the odds. Selecting against loyalty is not going to get you loyalty, whether your taste is monogamy or not.
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Obsidian asked Lurker
Lurker Replied in a most Hardcore way what I was trying to explain to you about the mindset of a Connnaisseur vs. a Standard Womanizer / Polyamorous Man in the “30 and still Flakes Post” commnets:
You and Lurker just had a perfect dialogue between a Connaisseur and Standard Polyamorous man. You Obsidian give a Shit about the women you sleep with. He (Lurker) more often than not, doesn’t. You try to “leave the woman better than she was before”. Lurker on his better days “Tries to teach the Bitch a lesson”. That is the fundamental difference. And oh yeah Obsidian. You can’t understand that style of the game….because it’s not in you. Connaisseurs are like one step from becoming “Captain -Save-A -Hoe” because their emotions can get them caught up. Me, I’m a monogamy minded beta at the core, but I’ve pledged to take no Shit from girls with poor character 🙂 .
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Is anyone here in a happy relationship? I think one of the best and scariest feelings in the world is when you are with someone to whom you genuinely care what happens.
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The problem with these men is they would not be able to make your pussy as wet as it could be.
So why should she date men who aren’t attractive to her? Why do you advocate for women to use and emotionally abuse beta males?
Email David Alexander right now!!
If we get along, but she doesn’t find me attractive, the proper relationship between the two of us should be of a platonic nature. A platonic relationship allows for companionship, but with none of the responsibilities of marriage, and none of the pitiful “duty sex” which is an insult to a man.
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T. AKA Ricky Raw:
This is definitely true. My own knowledge and opinions on a variety of controversial subjects were significantly shaped by certain obscure out of print books. If I hadn’t had access to an excellent university library where numerous such books could be found, I’m sure my own view on many issues would be horribly naive and misinformed.
In fact, when you read such books, you get to realize that they offer actual arguments and analysis on numerous subjects where in today’s mainstream intellectual discourse, it’s considered unacceptable to pronounce anything except platitudes to the modern politically correct orthodoxy. This goes not only for what’s usually meant by PC, but also for many issues where it sounds nutty to question the established consensus, even when it won’t stir up the ideological passions so much.
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Balanced-A,
Thanks for the analysis of Lurker’s and my respective positions on Game. You’re right, I don’t understand his POV, but to each his own.
What I will say is that I’ve seen enough of the kind of animus driving Lurker’s position to last three lifetimes. Plus, I work among Men all day long, actually doing stuff. When I get done with all that, I want to be immersed in some Beauty, w/a Woman I actually enjoy spending time with. That I screw her brains out as well is a very nice plus.
You know, when I saw Joyz’s comments earlier in this thread, I was about to respond to her, but after seeing some of the very same things she’s talking about, I gotta tell ya, it kinda gets hard to deny the “misogynist” tag some have attributed to Game overall. And that’s what bothers me, because as you note, there are distinct differences between guys like me and Lurker. Very, very distinct.
Game has given more respect for Women; one can only speculate what its done for Lurker.
But at any rate, yup, guilty as charged, I am most definitely an Epicurian of the Female Form, my Brother; no Wham, Bam, Thank You Ma’am stuff over this way. Obsidian don’t get down like that.
O
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Obsidian —
Why yes of course I advocate social restrictions (the most effective kind) on male and female sex and mate choice. I would advocate social pressure among women, to push women to choose men for the qualities of loyalty, decency, earning potential, stability, and the ability/likeliness of being good fathers and husbands.
And I advocate social restrictions and pressures among men to demand that a “real man” choose women wisely, have less sex, and more romance, choosing women on the basis of loyalty, intelligence, the prospect of being a good wife and mother.
This requires a cultural and social revolution. It will be long, difficult, the prospect of decades and more. However, it was done before. The Victorians after the Georgians, changed English culture from the celebration of drunken-ness and having sex with 12 year old prostitutes to being “uptight” and restrictive on sex, disapproving of unseemly behavior (including slavery and racism — read several Sherlock Holmes stories where racism is overtly criticized). People forget just how awful Georgian attitudes in England towards sex, drinking, and behavior was. It was common for people to step over the drunken figures of twelve year old prostitutes in London’s fashionable areas and figure it was nothing. Interestingly, relatively few laws were changed in social areas, it was almost always social pressure that made men and women stop having promiscuous sex and getting drunk out of their minds every night.
Misogyny? Well yes of course, Game produces it. Consider: the real you was not good enough, you find success with women by producing a false persona and image. Who will dump you in a heartbeat when you reveal your own true persona. It’s the success (false persona = success with women) not the failure of game that carries the seeds of misogyny. But then, women want it both ways: have the most socially dominant men (of which there will be only a few) in de-facto soft polygamy and not having to deal with the rest of the men’s jealousy and anger.
Rule of thumb: women in soft-polygamy systems create the misogyny they deplore. They never of course deplore the hard polygamy of hard polygamy systems such as in Arabia. Women complain about bitter nice guys but not men who behead adulteress or hang 16 year old girls for non-marital sex. Which ought to tell you something.
Ktulah: Your advice is terrible for any man. BEING a “good guy” will get him dumped. Securing his social dominance is all-important, and only a few men can be and most cannot. The link to the Dating a Banker Anonymous is probably more indicative of women than your advice.
You talk morals, I talk results. Who will find a woman and be able to keep her? One following your advice, or one who follow’s Roissy’s and PUA’s?
David — YES. Women should trade-off sex-passion now, for love-affection-companionship LATER. This of course requires careful selection of men for these qualities. Not any man will do.
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I would advocate social pressure among women, to push women to choose men for the qualities of loyalty, decency, earning potential, stability, and the ability/likeliness of being good fathers and husbands.
Thank you for punishing beta males with women who don’t love them.
YES. Women should trade-off sex-passion now, for love-affection-companionship LATER.
Even David Alexander will lose his tolerance for a bitch who only uses him. I’d rather be alone than be a pawn in some woman’s master plan, but you’re a delusional tool who thinks women will love beta males.
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[blockquote]To do blockquotes, surround the text with xxx and xxx, except change the [’s to <’s.[/blockquote]
Just testing T’s html suggestion.
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Guess it didn’t work.
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Did you change the square brackets into pointed ones? Look at this page for a guide on how to do this.
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Whiskey,
Im all for what you said, my question becomes, in nuts and bolts terms, how do we do it, and what are the punishments for those who *don’t* get with the program? That’s what im trying to get at here.
And yea, I gotta tell ya, that Banker’s piece was…WOW.
O
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Obsidian,
My question to you Obsidian is…..how do you “break- up” with the ladies you romance. Do you tell them from jump that you are a Connaisseur, not meant for lifelong committment? Or do they often break from you and stay platonic friends to vent to you about her current boyfriend. See, I think Connaisseurs are the kind of dudes that are able to keep all these lady friends around after they have banged them, just to be surrounded by their feminity. Know that you are a rare breed sir. Many men are for real cavemen and really don’t care if they come off as misogynistic or not…..especially when it seems that pissing women off …turns them on all the more….alot of women seem to have a weird masochistic attraction to men that “disrespect” them. So if they are fullfilled in being blatantly disrespected…..who am I to say whats happening to them is wrong?
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Whiskey says, “Ktulah: Your advice is terrible for any man.”
I got that advice from a man who’s been happily married for 35 years.
“BEING a “good guy” will get him dumped.”
No, being a punk will likely get him dumped or taken to the cleaners. Standing up for what one believes in is not being a punk. Having standards is not being a punk.
If my mom screws up, she knows she’s in trouble. If she screwd up too badly, she knows she’ll be shown the door…and my dad is a very good guy. He’s just not pussified.
“Securing his social dominance is all-important, and only a few men can be and most cannot.”
Social dominance is not nearly as important as small scale social dominance in one’s home. That’s Dom enough. Plenty poor, and some disabled men manage to keep faithful wives by simply manning up. I wouldn’t say it’s easy, but possible definitely.
“The link to the Dating a Banker Anonymous is probably more indicative of women than your advice.”
Well, if you mean grass eating, coke snorting herdbeasts then yes.
Not every woman, and I’d venture most women, wouldn’t cry over a bottle service.
“You talk morals, I talk results. Who will find a woman and be able to keep her? One following your advice, or one who follow’s Roissy’s and PUA’s?”
This isn’t an argument against PUA. Sorry if you got that impression. What I was talking about is using one’s PUA skills to get the kind of woman one wants, and not the kind that other guys will look at and want to shag. Other guys wanting to shag your woman may mean that she has a higher SMV, but it doesn’t make her work crap at home, or if you get sick, or find yourself without a job.
For that, you need a loyal woman, and for that, since being a good PUA will bring you options, use those options to find a loyal woman…not just anyone with a hole and a hot body.
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Can’t say I disagree w/Nicole on that one, fellas. Game is what you make of it, which is so often true for so much of Life.
The line of reasoning that Whiskey’s persuing is more on the group or collective level; not to say that isn’t important, but man, at the end of the day, I can only do what *I* can do. Me. And the great thing about Game is that it can help you get a handle on your own life in this regard. Which goes back to what Nicole was saying above: you may not be the Grand Pubah in Society’s eyes, but you can definitely be that in your own home. In your own backyard. In your own social circle. To me, that’s even more important.
Balance, thanks for the kudos, man. From the giddyup, I’ve always let the Ladies know the deal upfront and gave em the option to rollout if that wasn’t what they wanted. I’ve had a few who did that, most didn’t. As long as I didn’t mention anyone else in their presence, and all that. You know how intensely jealous Women can be don’t you know.
In most cases we parted amicably, although of course there were a few notable exceptions. And I’ve had quite a few strictly monogamous relationships, too, so it all depends on the situation and the Woman.
But yea, you’re right, there are Women around who go in for the Lurkers of the world, and hey, I can’t knock his hustle. It just ain’t for me, is all I’m sayin’.
Thanks again for the shoutouts.
O
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whiskey, being intimately familiar with ‘hard polygamy’ communities, I’m not sure exactly what you mean. Are you saying a Western woman transposed into one of those communities would not complain, or are you saying that a woman coming from those communities does not complain either?
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“since being a good PUA will bring you options”
Not so much. The more you invest in being PUA, the more you attract the kind of women who would not make suitable wives and mothers, and the more you repel the quality women.
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Keith, I think that depends on what the guy wants. If he wants a wife/mom type, he can tailor his game accordingly.
I knew a guy a long time ago, who used to wear a wedding band on his left pinky. He wasn’t a PUA per se, but he knew how to talk to women, and some very attractive ones, not just mainstream ewe attractive, but legit beautiful women wanted his attention. He ended up marrying a woman who was a truly born again virgin, but racked up substantial years between a wild freshman year and the point when they met.
She’s definitely not what most guys here would class as hot, and was even a little chubby and tall. She isn’t strict Quaker-plain, but she is modest. She now wears the ring he used to wear on his pinky.
The guy, I had a talk with back then, was actually not extremely conservative. We were friends partly because he understood me well. I asked him why he wore that ring on his pinky, and he told me that it reminded him of what he was looking for, despite all the women who wanted to get with him. I was so happy for him when he finally found that.
What I’m saying is basically, how can a guy know what he really wants if he doesn’t have options? Without options, he’s basically taking what he can get and then backwards rationalizing. You, like my friend, had options and did what was best for you out of a selection of many choices. Not all guys, for whatever reason, have those choices.
When they do, it’s likely that they’ll start thinking in terms of which choice is the better one, rather than what choice do they have. If it’s the wrong one, they’ll pay the price and learn something from it.
In my opinion, PUA is a whole lot better step in the right direction than waiting for the chick fairy.
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What do you mean by this question? Is it rhetorical or serious? You have read the book yourself, and the book itself goes into much detail about what actual female power is, and it’s much more pervasive than what you describe.
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Funny
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Keith feigned off cognitive dissonace with: “since being a good PUA will bring you options” Not so much. The more you invest in being PUA, the more you attract the kind of women who would not make suitable wives and mothers, and the more you repel the quality women.
Ya aha. Any other pretty lies?
Being socially manipulative is not a turn off, for anyone, unless you manipulate poorly. That’s the whole point.
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Once again it’s funny how guys talk about this cat lady as if she can’t get laid. I dare you to find even one woman on this earth who cannot find a guy to sleep with her. It doesn’t happen!
It’s funny because all these guys talk like they’re “conquering” something. By thinking with your dicks, you are lending power to exactly what you supposedly hate. Women using feminine wiles to dick you out of your manliness. All you are showing these types of women is that you FEAR them and have to LIE to win against them.
The only way you would “conquer” this power women have would be to NOT be led around by your penis and NOT have to give into desires with this sort of woman.
Everything about the nerd who’s losing his looks and having a mid-life crisis screams “desperation” and draws out the manipulative types of women in droves. That is what each and every guy on here is doing…. proving to all of us that even the men who HATE women will still bow down to the pussy in the end.
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lady rain proving to all of us that even the men who HATE women will still bow down to the pussy in the end.
Very true and I think it’s one of those things that men with high drives, hate about women.
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Sure pussy makes having money worthwhile but not any woman can have any man for a commitment or a fuck. This is where you are completely wrong Lrain.
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