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Reversing A Flake

February 2, 2009 by CH

In my post on how to head fake girls with beta provider game, I left a teaser that I had stumbled upon a nearly foolproof text for reversing a “no response” flake. This is the kind of flake where the girl gives you her number but then doesn’t reply when you call or text her to set up a date. (Note: For “last minute cancellation” flake reversal tactics, see this post. Particularly, el chief’s suggestion.)

Here is the text I used to reopen communication lines with three girls who had flaked on me with radio silence:

whats up flaky mcflakester

Elegant in its simplicity and lack of punctuation, and effective. I sent this text during the afternoon, three days after I left them the initial voicemail. All three girls responded within ten minutes to my text, and their responses were eerily identical:

I’m not a flake! I was busy doing [insert lame excuse]. Give me a call.

The haters out there will conclude that the three girls were sluts with low self esteem, manufactured at the same “girls who fall for players” factory, and that’s why the text worked. Nothing could be further from the truth. These girls were as different from each other as night and day, in occupation, temperament, race, looks, and country of origin.

Why this text works:

  • short and sweet, demonstrates uncaring attitude
  • lack of punctuation = don’t give a shit
  • called her out on her flakiness without anger or bitterness
  • used the idiotic “mc….ster” form of wordplay which is popular with girls these days

I hesitated writing this post because the odds are now increased that the next time a girl I am gaming receives a “whats up flaky mcflakester” text from me, she will have heard it before from one of my readers. This is the price all revolutionaries must pay for their magnanimity.

Tomorrow: An example of successful online game I have used.

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  1. on February 2, 2009 at 11:13 am RagTag

    FACEPALM

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  2. on February 2, 2009 at 11:25 am Benedict Smith

    this one’s going to get field tested, overused, then will lead to more evolution of game. such is the endless cycle. unavoidable as it is necessary.

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  3. on February 2, 2009 at 11:29 am ASF

    Can confirm that calling girl a flake is powerful. In my AFC days I called a girl I was seeing a flake, and she totally freaked out. Actually she never spoke to me again after that, but it was for other reasons.

    Why do girls respond to this so strongly?

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  4. on February 2, 2009 at 11:32 am Zdeno

    I have sent that exact text 20+ times. Creepy.

    My main theoretical objection to this is that by assuming the flake, you are implying that you get flaked on by a lot of girls. Fuck it though, it works.

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  5. on February 2, 2009 at 11:35 am 3point5

    Evolution is quite the process…

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  6. on February 2, 2009 at 11:38 am roissy

    My main theoretical objection to this is that by assuming the flake, you are implying that you get flaked on by a lot of girls.

    don’t worry about that. girls are not that inductive.

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  7. on February 2, 2009 at 11:40 am Cannon's Canon

    At first, I was concerned that this text acknowledged a lower value by recognizing the flake itself, a la the beta text “ouch harsh blow off” that was lambasted in a previous mailbag. After further review, I decided that the alpha characteristics of the message overruled any inferred admission of weakness. The absent punctuation is a nice touch, but I think the phrasing of the flake as a pronoun is the crowning glory. This is a quintessential neg – playful and pertinent, creating a challenge to win back approval without undue animosity.

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  8. on February 2, 2009 at 11:50 am lurker

    women respond simply because they are conditioned to think they are more “with it” socially than men. Put another way, women consider “acting appropriately” more importantly than men do. So when called out on it, women are more likely to defend themselves and/or make up for it. Social guilt, if you will.

    Men don’t care. Men don’t make dates they don’t want, and if we ever break them and are called flakes, we shrug our shoulders and never bother texting back. Quite simply, we don’t break dates with chicks we want to screw.

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  9. on February 2, 2009 at 12:05 pm z

    Its kind of a neg too if you think about it, stinging the mark a little on the ego. Probably brings out the competitiveness just a tad in a high T girl…………

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  10. on February 2, 2009 at 12:07 pm True Dat

    “Why do girls respond to this so strongly?”

    Because it is true…and they got called out. Kind of like that “doth protest too much” thing.

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  11. on February 2, 2009 at 12:16 pm JAW

    Roissy,

    I like that, and will definitely try it. I have stumbled upon one that is two for two with flakes recently. After suggesting a specific date at a specific time, and getting no response, I just sent the following message, “So I’ll see you Thursday at 8.” I can only imagine they think “who is this guy” which is exactly what I want.

    No question mark, no bitterness, no neediness, just assumption. Both times, responses, with that same lame “oh god i was so busy” which is bullshit.

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  12. on February 2, 2009 at 12:18 pm AJ

    When I don’t respond to a guys calls or texts, its because I gave him my number just to shut him up and get him to leave me alone. I know I should probably make up a fake number, but guys nowadays make you pull out your cell so they can call you and make sure you have THEIR number.

    If you sent me that text, it would just further confirm my decision to never talk to you.

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  13. on February 2, 2009 at 12:22 pm ironrailsironweights

    These girls were as different from each other as night and day, in occupation, temperament, race, looks, and country of origin.

    Did they differ in terms of the Most Important Part of a Woman’s Appearance? You all know what that is.

    Peter

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  14. on February 2, 2009 at 12:27 pm el chief

    did they let you put your peepee in their cookoos though, is the question?

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  15. on February 2, 2009 at 12:27 pm JAW

    Well then AJ you’re not a flake so this doesn’t pertain to you. Congrats.

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  16. on February 2, 2009 at 12:30 pm a_c

    The tricky part is to appear uncaring while still calling them out. This text is a good move in that direction, but are you sure that the girls don’t end up seeing you as needy?

    At the very least you should act more uncaring in any subsequent interaction.

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  17. on February 2, 2009 at 12:44 pm el chief

    I can also confirm that flaking on women will make them angry, but want to fuck you, assuming they remotely liked you.

    they will bitch you out harsh for canceling at last minute. email them a week or so later and apologize, and go for a drink (or they’ll email you eventually)

    case 1: rich cougar, owner of a company. went on dates, bjs only, no tiki-tiki. el cheif got tired of that and flaked on her, and stops calling. couple weeks later, she emails me up, and next nite is tiki-tiki time.

    case 2: cute friend of friend. went on some dates. no bjs even. she was getting demanding about going to nice restaurants, so i flaked then stopped calling her. saw her at friend’s place a few weeks later. bukkake time!

    my new practice is as follows:

    – first time she flakes she is off the long-term/monogamy list (if you want such a thing), cuz she really doesn’t like you enuf for this. she is now a dating-only girl. give her a good throat fuck.

    – second time she flakes, she is off the dating list, and is now a cum dump. only call her drunk for sex (if you got there). feel free to be a fucking dick to her. ATM and DP only.

    – third time she flakes, she is gone. either setup a fancy date at a fancy place and have her meet you there (and flake yourself), or never initiate and respond to any contact from her again. be strong.

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  18. on February 2, 2009 at 12:45 pm Colin Bowel

    This is like the time I texted a girl saying “whats up sucky mcdicksucker” and ten minutes later she came over and sucked my dick.

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  19. on February 2, 2009 at 12:49 pm agnostic

    The Blank-y McBlankster thing is mostly a 25+ thing. I think you said she was 28 or 29, right?

    Younger girls have their own stupid sayings, but the Blank-y McBlankster thing really grates on the nerves.

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  20. on February 2, 2009 at 12:51 pm Anonymous

    “Why do girls respond to this so strongly?”

    Because it is true…and they got called out. Kind of like that “doth protest too much” thing.

    Or possibly because they object to being wrongfully accused….

    Oh, but that would presume that women exist who aren’t flakes, and that’s just crazy-talk.

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  21. on February 2, 2009 at 12:57 pm True Dat

    Oh, but that would presume that women exist who aren’t flakes, and that’s just crazy-talk.

    Yes, it surely is.

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  22. on February 2, 2009 at 1:01 pm Sean

    I believe I’ve actually used a similar text before. Works pretty well, too.

    I’ve only just recently started leaving my texts punctuation-less, and I’ve got to say, it really does give off a completely different (see: superior) vibe.

    Good post. I always enjoy the game ones.

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  23. on February 2, 2009 at 1:13 pm Obsidian

    Although I usually enjoy Roissy’s Game-specific and oriented posts, I gotta say that this one kinda comes off to me as “try hard” a definite No-No for me. I learned, the hard way, many many yuears ago, that such things are at best a Pyrric Victory, if not an out and out Fool’s Errand.

    If girlfriend aint attracted to you and/or if you aint built up enough comfort, its a wash. Move on.

    O

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  24. on February 2, 2009 at 1:35 pm The G Manifesto

    “used the idiotic “mc….ster” form of wordplay which is popular with girls these days”

    Funny.

    I would never use the “idiotic “mc….ster” form of wordplay”

    But I can see how it would work on “normal girl”.

    – MPM

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  25. on February 2, 2009 at 1:36 pm Chuck

    This text is better than this one guy I work with. He’s trying to get with this attention-whore we both work with. She straight-up called him creepy and said he was in love with her, to me and others, while the guy was looking on. He called her 8 times that night, with no answer.

    Three days later, Jesus-like, he texts her with: “I haven’t talked to you for three days. Am I still creepy?” The bitch went to his Super Bowl party last night for the free Little Smokies.

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  26. on February 2, 2009 at 1:42 pm spaceman

    i’m really not sure if your being sincere in this point but i will try it out next time im flaked on.

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  27. on February 2, 2009 at 1:43 pm jkc

    i really can’t see how this would work on anyone over the age of 23.

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  28. on February 2, 2009 at 1:43 pm spaceman

    *point= post

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  29. on February 2, 2009 at 1:49 pm PA

    i really can’t see how this would work on anyone over the age of 23.

    You’d be surprised. Women only seem “mature” when you interact with them casually. But if a chick digs you she gets girly and childish, no matter how old she is.

    The only other time I’ve seen something similar to “blank Mcblankster” was in an episode of “Friends” in which Ross is gaming a young student of his, calling her “Cutie McPretty.”

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  30. on February 2, 2009 at 2:12 pm Tood

    el chief is awesome. I like how he started the text with the word ‘gay.’ being the full first sentence.

    As far as the man flaking, is it better to just do the ‘cold flake’ of not showing up with no explanation, or is it better to email/text an hour beforehand and say “I can’t make it. Something else came up.” This maintains your manners, but still puts yourself at higher value, as the date with that woman was low enough on your priority list that something more important can ‘come up’ on short notice.

    Which is better?

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  31. on February 2, 2009 at 2:20 pm Tood

    “this one’s going to get field tested, overused, then will lead to more evolution of game.”

    Not really. We still have a very small fraction of men who even comprehend the concept of Game, and only a small fraction of those who can even execute much game (as 80% of newbies never manage to get up to the point of doing a lot of approaches). Most of the male population still only aspires to become a Beta provider to a 7.

    Don’t worry about ‘Game saturation’ for at least another 10 years. Only after you see hundreds of headline articles and TV spots about how men are choosing not to marry at all, are we even close to Game saturation on the horizon.

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  32. on February 2, 2009 at 2:21 pm Tood

    “but the Blank-y McBlankster thing really grates on the nerves.”

    If anyone over 25 is doing this, it drops my attraction for them. I hate it when people just refuse to become adults even by their late 20s.

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  33. on February 2, 2009 at 2:34 pm Dudley Dawson

    Roissy – how did you play it when each of the girls texted back, telling you to call them? Did you jump through their hoop and call, and if so, did they actually pick up this time? Or did you text back something playful, along the lines of “how about you call me, flaky mcflakester”? Or did you just respond with silence, and wait for them to call?

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  34. on February 2, 2009 at 3:03 pm anon.

    If you’re so awesome, why do you even care?

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  35. on February 2, 2009 at 3:27 pm anon mcanonster

    good stuff. I will have to incorporate into my lexicon.

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  36. on February 2, 2009 at 3:32 pm Carl Sagan

    Calling them out while remaining indifferent seems to be the important thing to take away from this blog post.

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  37. on February 2, 2009 at 3:46 pm Tood

    “Calling them out while remaining indifferent seems to be the important thing to take away from this blog post.”

    Yes, and it should apply at all times, not just in the event of a flake.

    It should be part of your personality, at every stage of the Game and even in a long-term relationship.

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  38. on February 2, 2009 at 3:47 pm sara I

    Roissy, your cutsie approach may work on girls, but not women, but that’s hardly what you’re looking for.

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  39. on February 2, 2009 at 3:49 pm lurker

    a man should never flake on a girl unless he’s plowing someone hotter at the time of the date.

    and there’s no reason to plan a date with a girl you find unattractive only to bow out later. why would make a date with her? man up and reject any attempts by warpigs and heifers the first time.

    show them their place.

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  40. on February 2, 2009 at 3:50 pm lurker

    sara I, that sound you hear is your panties getting juicy for the first time in your life.

    welcome to roissy’s world, baby.

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  41. on February 2, 2009 at 4:03 pm Large McHadron Colliderster

    Wordplay works

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  42. on February 2, 2009 at 4:07 pm Hammer

    I don’t usually care about flakes, I just delete their numbers, particularly if they were only in the fuckable/potential fuck buddy category. I do have something to share that I learned from Doc Holiday and have had success with.

    3am on a party night or 1am on an off night, mass text your flake numbers “Hey girlie, come over. Key is in the usual spot.” They’ll usually text you back saying wrong girl. Even if they don’t, you can usually call them the next day and get them on the phone. They’ll try to bust on you for making a wrong booty call, but you’re coming from the place of a man who gets ass, which is attractive. This may even be a good last ditch effort after the one you use fails.

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  43. on February 2, 2009 at 4:08 pm Tood

    In other news, Hulk Hogan is being destroyed in divorce court. His wife gets his house, cars, etc.

    The divorce was her idea, he did not want a divorce, even though he is a famous, muscular, affable man who could be getting 22 year olds all day long.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25978446/

    Incentives matter, and marriage in America is currently structured to have women act in a predatory manner against men. Women end 90% of all relationships. She merely saw that Hogan has reached the end of his lifetime earning potential as an entertainer, so she made the cold, calculated decision to sever Hulk Hogan from his money.

    The alimony will be brutal, given that they were married for over 20 years. The only bright point is that there is no child support, due to both children having grown up.

    Any man who marries in America today is insane. Women have ruined marriage, for men and for the next generation of women.

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  44. on February 2, 2009 at 4:11 pm Meow

    “Roissy, your cutsie approach may work on girls, but not women, but that’s hardly what you’re looking for.”

    Enjoy your cats.

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  45. on February 2, 2009 at 4:13 pm sara I

    There’s only one question you need to ask yourself, “What would Sean Connery do or say?” IF anything. In this case, I doubt he would give a shit if one women out of how many ignored his calls or texts. A confident man doesn’t need every single women he approaches to have a particular response to him. A confident man knows that if she doesn’t respond it’s about HER, not him. A confident man doesn’t have his ego and image on the line with each and every women he approaches.

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  46. on February 2, 2009 at 4:13 pm sara I

    Meow,

    Thank you, I will. Purrrrrrrr.

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  47. on February 2, 2009 at 4:14 pm PA

    I heard somewhere that the Hogan thing may be a hoax because he’s getting sued for somethign and the “divorce” is just a rushed way of transferring his assets to his wife so that the court won’t be able to touch them.

    Just what I heard.

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  48. on February 2, 2009 at 4:14 pm 12 Stepper

    “why would make a date with her? man up and reject any attempts by warpigs and heifers the first time.

    show them their place.”

    Slow down there lurker…If you can get some free drinks out of it then do so. Nothing like getting tanked and acting like a jerk one someone else’s dime.

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  49. on February 2, 2009 at 4:21 pm Tood

    Men are second class citizens in America, much like women are in Saudi Arabia. That is an apt comparison.

    Society is greatly concealing the tremendous risk a man takes under the legal contract of marriage, combined with the fact that women are more heartless and capable of greater cruelty than men. The ‘no fault’ law COMBINED with ‘alimony’ is a disaster. Either one by themselves would not be so bad, but the two together are murderous.

    ONLY marry if :

    1) The woman makes the same or more money than you.
    2) You can get a proper pre-nup (done with lawyers on both sides).
    3) You have some competence in Game, and can avoid Beta relapses.

    If these 3 conditions are not met. Do not marry. You may want to have children who you play ball with, take to the zoo, and help do their college applications, but sorry, this is the wrong country and wrong era for it. America has made this goal too risky to pursue.

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  50. on February 2, 2009 at 4:23 pm Tood

    “I heard somewhere that the Hogan thing may be a hoax because he’s getting sued for somethign and the “divorce” is just a rushed way of transferring his assets to his wife so that the court won’t be able to touch them.”

    NO. Read the fucking article. She is having an affair with a 19-year old, who is living in that house. Hogan’s emotions are visible.

    I heard somewhere that everyone in India has their own elephant, and that is what is used for transportation. I heard it, so it must be true!!

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  51. on February 2, 2009 at 4:23 pm notfamous

    This wouldn’t work on me. If I flaked on a guy, there was a good reason for it. This text only makes the guy seem bitter, and would even more confirm my decision.

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  52. on February 2, 2009 at 4:24 pm Tood

    ““Roissy, your cutsie approach may work on girls, but not women, but that’s hardly what you’re looking for.”

    There are no such thing as women. There are girls, who then become one of two things : mothers or cougars. Period.

    Girls, mothers, and cougars. That’s it.

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  53. on February 2, 2009 at 4:27 pm lurker

    12 Stepper:

    –if you can’t get a hotter girl to pony up, you’re not playing the game right.

    No heifer/warpig is worth a second glance. the only time they get to buy me a drink is when I first meet them at a bar AND I’m bored.

    sara I:

    ““What would Sean Connery do or say?….A confident man knows that if she doesn’t respond it’s about HER, not him.”

    —ah, isn’t sara I a typical gonna-die-alone feminazi: if you don’t place women on a pedestal, you’re an evil, rotten man.

    enjoy the betas in your life, slut. Hilarious that you would cite Sean Connery as a man who kneels at women’s feet and kisses their asses—-’cause Sean Connery would smack you—no literally, because he believes in beating women:

    http://www.askmen.com/celebs/entertainment-news/sean-connery/connery-abuse-claims.html

    “He caused an uproar in a December 1987 interview with Barbara Walters in which he said it was OK for a man to hit a woman, assuming that it was required to calm her down or “keep her in line”. Connery had made similar remarks in a November 1965 interview with Playboy magazine on the set of Thunderball. ”
    —-http://www.popstarsplus.com/actors_seanconnery.htm

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  54. on February 2, 2009 at 4:40 pm jkc

    i like Hammer’s approach.

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  55. on February 2, 2009 at 5:06 pm Patrick Bateman

    your cutsie approach may work on girls, but not women, but that’s hardly what you’re looking for.

    The 5-10% of grown females that qualify as true women never flake. If they’re not into you, they don’t make plans with you.

    Women only seem “mature” when you interact with them casually. But if a chick digs you she gets girly and childish, no matter how old she is.

    Psychologically, males catch up to female maturity sometime in the late teens/early 20s. After that age, females mature slowly until topping out in the late 20s. Males, (even lower betas) continue to mature psychologically into old age.

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  56. on February 2, 2009 at 5:10 pm whiskey

    Chuck — interesting. That guy needs a whole attitude adjustment. I’ve seen a similar situation, but with a different approach, that did not embrace the full Game persona (cocky-funny bit, arrogant a-hole).

    Guy works with a girl, she mocks him for his obsession with her, and he admits it, but says he finds her fascinating like Billy Joel, segues into a whole bit that is geeky-funny on why Joel is both a hackneyed poser moron and at the same time a hook-happy talented composer. Complete with examples of Joel’s posing and train-wreck personal life, and and bits of songs that everyone knows and can sing, because his hooks stick in your mind.

    He finished up with how Joel is more interesting than Bruce Springsteen, because while he thought they were both over-paid posers faking corporate-funded rebellion while living the lives of millionaires, Joel actually had some compositional talent and did not rely on talented session players to cover his lack of performing talent.

    Needless to say, the gal had the wind taken out of her sails, being compared to Billy Joel is not what most hot women (she was hot) expect and the fairly explicit and unflattering comparisons (trainwreck personal life, hackery-posing) along with the guy’s genuine enthusiasm for parts of Joel’s music and his well, like for Joel despite all the other things was completely different than what she expected.

    More importantly, the guy stayed nerd-central. He was a true nerd, rattling off obscure facts about Joel, as a true nerd-obsessive, but it was clear that he found Joel amusing and somewhat contemptible at the same time, the way women often view nerds. And it was quite clear, he thought of her the way she thought of him.

    [Guy found her hot, but other parts of her character annoying, so he was not faking it either.]

    The gal actually dated the guy, for a while. I don’t know what came of it, since I left town shortly afterwards.

    I think the biggest thing was that the guy just didn’t care that much. Oh he liked her, but not completely and if she never slept with him I don’t think it would have broken his heart.

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  57. on February 2, 2009 at 5:33 pm Anonymous

    The 5-10% of grown females that qualify as true women never flake. If they’re not into you, they don’t make plans with you.

    Truth.

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  58. on February 2, 2009 at 5:39 pm z

    My old roomate, who didn’t quit fucking different women until he was north of 600 (His third marriage was the “charm” and he’s 50 now…….), would NEVER EVER EVER worry if a woman didn’t call him back.

    He always had multiple numbers of new “broads” at any one time.

    There was no texting back then, hell, there were hardly any cellular phones and the one’s that existed were the size of paperback trash novels, but there were phones and awnsering machines.

    I can’t see him TXT’ING to be honest with you. He’d just go on and call the next “whore”. (He called them broads, chicks, whores, cum receptycles, bar-whores, and squirrels).

    I remember him calling one in particular all those years ago and asked her if she wanted to hook up for a drink at what was then a good-after-work-watering-hole. She apparently had some lame excuse. He said “(make large game-show buzzer noise), Buzzzzzz! wrong answer, thank you for playing”. He hung up the phone, and said…………”whelp, time to call bachelorette number two”. I asked him how many chicks he was prepared to call, and he told me he had a lot of “new” phone numbers (besides his “regulars”—about half of whom might have had boyfriends or husbands).

    Women probably need to know, but maybe dont want to know, that the –OBVIOUS–“alpha” males (the big, tall, muscular, good looking guys), if they are out there and single, have so damned many options that blowing one off probably assures that you will never hear from him again. He has several “leads” at any one time and meets several women and gets multiple phone numbers almost every night that he feels like doing so.

    Truly —GENETIC—-alpha men, the one’s that have the face, size, body, and intelligence (usually north of six-feet two and weigh at least 220——-think 6-4 and 250 with a great face and hair), have so many options that getting one to “fall in love” with any female on the planet (even Cindy Crawford in her prime), is very difficult. Thats the primary reason that men like this dont oft settle down until they are in their late 30’s. Pussy is THROWN at them so much, from so many diverse cum-receptylces, that its hard for them not to spend life just experimenting to see what kinds of poon tang they like most. My old roomy had redheads, blondes, brunettes, titty-monsters, bubble-ass-spoons, spinners, amazones, asian girls, a few black girls, a couple of middle eastern chicks, and handful of latins…………………..and this impaired him from ever “retiring” from “whoring” (he called what Roissy calls “game”——-“whoring”).

    He wasn’t faithful until his third marriage, has been married for a decade now. He waited until middle age to finally do it right. He got more pussy from different women during his second marriage than most good players would get while single (his particular job allowed for this).

    Like Whiskey, I think the legitimate -pair bonding- that normally takes place during marriage/raising children simply wont oft take place for these kinds of men.

    The next generation in blue states will be smaller amongst black and white ‘native’ Americans, too few kids are being born. If it weren’t for immigration, the situation would be pretty obvious as far as numbers-in-schools, etc.

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  59. on February 2, 2009 at 6:13 pm Sebastian Flyte

    Sinn and future uncovered an incredibly effective preselection DHV spike that simultaneously gets rid of any destructive player-vibe you emit: simply replace the words ‘my ex girlfriend’ with ‘my ex-fiance’ in some stories you tell.

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  60. on February 2, 2009 at 6:14 pm John Smith


    this one’s going to get field tested, overused, then will lead to more evolution of game. such is the endless cycle. unavoidable as it is necessary.

    Are there any lines that are immune to being overused?

    Does it show the stupidity of girls that to them, the uniqueness of the line is more important than the attitude it conveys?

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  61. on February 2, 2009 at 6:36 pm Gunslingergregi

    Hulk Hogan,
    “This is a simple divorce — there’s no custody, there’s just a big pile of junk that we’ve accumulated. We should split it however the judge wants it and walk away, but, you know, my wife’s lawyer has told different magazines there’s gonna be a war,” he said. “This is the money that I saved for my family, and money that Linda could walk away with, money that I saved for my children, that they’re just, they’re just wasting (it) and burning (it) up.”

    Yea the wife needs to be tested for insanity fucking with hulk hogan and giving all the monry to lawyers. Why do these woman feel the need to destroy what the man they have been with for 20 years has created. Oh yea thats right because if he was able to keep half she knows dam well he will have no problem getting woman. Why the built up hate and shes sleeping with a 19 year old. Hulk Hogan needs to man up as a icon to a generation and take one for the team and wipe her and the lawyers ass out on live TV as a lesson to all that a personnal man’s law about what he is willing to undergo trumps the governments law, and gods law provided by religion.

    A man willing to go the distance is the most powerful force in the universe. If everyone did that no more divorce lawyers after a very short time. Then no incentive to pass egregious unfair laws as there would be repurcussions for doing so. Problem is in the states the alphas are betas too. Too many take it up the ass and ask for more.

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  62. on February 2, 2009 at 6:45 pm Gunslingergregi

    Other side of coin the kids are gonna be like wtf mom why are you fucking over dad. The hulk can come back from this he can start another family somewhere else and make more money. What will the mom have later on? Once her money runs out because she will spend it like water what then. Guess men are just better than woman as far as he can get a woman pregnant up until he almost is dead. Once she can’t have kids she just has what she made of her life before that nothing can be reborn nothing can be made fresh she has to settle for what she has done in her life and that is all. Hulk can start completely over at any time in life and still be successful and at any time can have a whole new life.

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  63. on February 2, 2009 at 6:58 pm Gunslingergregi

    Definetly time in the states to never share a bank account with a woman. Yea your woman is always different for the 20 years your together. Except when they change into the above. I guess men could really get even with woman by getting them all preggers. Teach you sons to get every woman they possibly can pregnant. Then the child support will max out at 65 percent of income. So he gets the kids out the way first then it is home free. He establishes an income he will live on early. Once its maxed out you can keep adding kids but the woman actually get less for each kid you have but you get to max out your genes and have sex raw dog with no worries. Tell em all you want them to have your child because you really like them lol True player with 100 kids roaming the earth. Each kid getting 20 bucks. Playing the system.

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  64. on February 2, 2009 at 7:13 pm Keith

    “The haters out there will conclude that the three girls were sluts with low self esteem, manufactured at the same “girls who fall for players” factory, and that’s why the text worked. Nothing could be further from the truth. These girls were as different from each other as night and day, in occupation, temperament, race, looks, and country of origin.”

    Yes, but they still resemble one another in otherwise unobserved traits that correlate with their tendency to give you their number in the first place.

    Remember what screwed up the exit pollers in 2004? It wasn’t bias in the observed traits of polled respondents, because you can always adjust for observed traits. It was the unobservable traits that correlated with both the tendency to vote Republican and with a suspicion of exit pollers.

    In Roissy’s world, Hater = somebody who understands estimation techniques in social sciences = somebody who can see through Roissy’s self-serving pile of dung.

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  65. on February 2, 2009 at 7:14 pm Tood

    Hulk Hogan is acting Beta in the interview. He was a great provider, saving money for his kids, and got his undeserving wife access to the lifestyle of a multi-millionaire global celebrity.

    But he is acting Beta here. His WIFE is the one with the 19 year old, for some reason. He needs to start being seen with a different 25 year old woman every week. He is one of the men who actually CAN do that at age 55. He should do it.

    His children are somewhat on his side, but still.

    The Hulkster needs GAME.

    But the divorce laws are brutalizing Hulk Hogan in a manner that 20 years of being pounded, slammed, and clotheslined by Andre the Giant, the Undertaker, Randy Savage, and the Ultimate Warrior cannot match.

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  66. on February 2, 2009 at 7:16 pm Tood

    BTW, Linda Bollea is a homewrecker. She is also the one who talked Miss Elizabeth into leaving Randy Savage (in real life) in 1992. So she wrecked both Hogan and Savage, using the machinery of divorce court.

    What a monster.

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  67. on February 2, 2009 at 7:24 pm RW

    Well there’s some fairly simple explanation for this efforts’ success.

    Women today are so utterly class conscious that an attack on them even remotely strikes a raw nerve. Calling them a flake is one step above threatening to put their phone number up on a public bathroom stall.

    So it ups the ante on rejection too. Because we all know that guys hold flakes even lower on the totem pole that whores and sluts, the former have less redeeming factors.

    Such as it is. Bring it. And then see where the chips fall. I was stood up only twice in life. Once was as I was exiting a boxing promotion at a strip club in Manhattan. A stripper came over to me after I was loaded up on Grey Goose and friends were already outside waiting. I gave her my number and we were to get together for a Sunday brunch but of course I didn’t confirm it before heading out and called whereby she said her parents were coming over that day. Of course I didn’t buy it and joked later to my buddy if I could reschedule. A game man in his own right, he bluntly said no. And we both laughed. It was true of course.

    The second one was a lawyer set up online. That is sadly the perfect setup for flake city. When she flaked even though I did call as I was heading over to the place, she wouldn’t answer the phone. I made a point of calling her at the end of the weekend and she immediately knew it was me. Her excuse was lame of course. And she weakly complained of my voicemails. As if her voicemail had suffered some horrible burden with me standing at a bar and calling to find out what the deal was.

    No more lawyers. This one was moronic enough to ask me on a second chat if I was a lawyer. Even though in the first conversation I said that I wasn’t.
    What a stupid insufferable bitch. Such is life.

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  68. on February 2, 2009 at 7:33 pm Firepower

    Most flakes you can forget about, but some require a spanking

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  69. on February 2, 2009 at 7:39 pm Darren

    Interesting re the “mc…ster” construction. Sounds like something you’d hear on TBTL (http://www.mynorthwest.com/?nid=93). Speaking of which, Roissy, I bet you think that show is the ultimate in betatude.

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  70. on February 2, 2009 at 8:42 pm Anonymous

    No more lawyers. This one was moronic enough to ask me on a second chat if I was a lawyer.

    You went on a second date with a lawyer? It’s bad enough people go on first dates with them!

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  71. on February 2, 2009 at 9:12 pm JAW

    The Roissy text: 1 for 1 so far.

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  72. on February 2, 2009 at 9:33 pm stagetwo

    a “no response” flake suggests that the earlier game wasn’t solid. she does not know enough about you to be interested.

    calling her on her flaking may get her to respond to justify herself. unfortunately that doesn’t mean she is now attracted.

    regarding attraction, your txting twice and remembering her failure to respond work against you — sadly.

    my preferred method would be to ignore her failure to respond completely. then, optionally, try again a week later with harder (i.e. more stimulating) game.

    i wouldn’t call her response “reversing the flake”. reversing the flake in this context would be to have her respond to your original message.

    instead she just txts “give me a call”. this is not too encouraging here: even though she is justifying herself, you are the one working. she should be working to make it up to you. if you do call, it means you forgave her flaking.

    a more encouraging response would be if she offered to call or meet. this would suggest that she was originally interested and really just didn’t get around to responding. in that case, however, your txt calling her on a flake that was not actually a flake has cost you some value.

    the real measure of success is not whether she responds at all (as those girls did) or whether you can reverse the flake, but whether this leads to an exchange of body fluids.

    tell us the rest of the story…

    — stagetwo

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  73. on February 2, 2009 at 9:52 pm n.t.

    SOMEBODY SAID: “When I don’t respond to a guys calls or texts, its because I gave him my number just to shut him up and get him to leave me alone. I know I should probably make up a fake number, but guys nowadays make you pull out your cell so they can call you and make sure you have THEIR number.”

    Hell, I’d be happier with the “no.” That way, I won’t build up any false anticipation. Just get the shit over with. We’ll both forget about it sooner

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  74. on February 2, 2009 at 10:06 pm stagetwo

    i like el chief’s method of demoting her.

    the tricky thing is that persistence can pay sometimes. (this LR may be relevant: http://www.bristollair.com/best-lay-reports/oriental-hot-tub-house-of-sex.html.)

    but then our total investment of time and energy must be kept under control. moreover, the more we invest the more we’re risking to lose value in her eyes.

    one way to go is for each “no response” to lead to more throwaway, more experimental and risky game — at intervals of at least a week.

    this way we practice where results don’t matter.

    –stagetwo

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  75. on February 2, 2009 at 10:17 pm roissy

    s. flyte, the ex-fiance substitution is MONEY.

    hater:
    Yes, but they still resemble one another in otherwise unobserved traits that correlate with their tendency to give you their number in the first place.

    tautology, unreel thyself.

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  76. on February 2, 2009 at 10:21 pm n.t.

    TOOD SAID: “As far as the man flaking, is it better to just do the ‘cold flake’ of not showing up with no explanation, or is it better to email/text an hour beforehand and say “I can’t make it. Something else came up.” This maintains your manners, but still puts yourself at higher value, as the date with that woman was low enough on your priority list that something more important can ‘come up’ on short notice.”

    this is good for somebody youre only lukewarm about, or seriously pisses you off, but what if its somebody youre genuinely wanting to hook up with? youre shooting yourself in the foot and cockblocking YOURSELF

    never, never, never do “the dance.” theres too much room for things to backfire

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  77. on February 2, 2009 at 10:32 pm n.t.

    NOTFAMOUS SAID: “If I flaked on a guy, there was a good reason for it. This text only makes the guy seem bitter”

    well, the guy got FLAKED. isnt he supposed to be bitter and totally rag on you?

    thats like seeing somebody on a hot day and wondering why they were sweating

    dont like the effect? dont produce the cause

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  78. on February 2, 2009 at 10:50 pm expats get the hotties

    AC taught:

    The tricky part is to appear uncaring

    Not quite. You can appear passionate, you can appear aloof. The tricky part is not playing a certain role, it is getting a certain response. If you are completely uncaring then you have no option to text at all. The text is good not for how it makes you appear, but for how it makes her appear. She is forced to respond, and in doing so, is being your little puppet. Rinse and repeat.

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  79. on February 2, 2009 at 11:02 pm expats get the hotties

    I’ve only just recently started leaving my texts punctuation-less, and I’ve got to say, it really does give off a completely different (see: superior) vibe.

    I prefer to text with correct spelling. Looks stiff and formal. Works well along with being 15 to 20 years older than whoever I date. It’s a form of peackocking – having some style that is your own, because you chose to have it. That may be meaningless and all in my head, but the attitude isn’t meaningless. It’s attractive because I say it is, god damn it.

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  80. on February 2, 2009 at 11:10 pm expats get the hotties

    “Calling them out while remaining indifferent seems to be the important thing to take away from this blog post.”

    Yes, and it should apply at all times, not just in the event of a flake.

    This is exactly why girls love to be called sluts and whores during rough sex play. Know what else? Blank facedly and with total unconcern point out, with only these two words; “You’re lying”.

    No emotion.

    You are lying. Then go back to your typing, or whatever.

    Works a treat.

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  81. on February 2, 2009 at 11:36 pm Suburban Sweetheart

    …does using correct grammar/punctuation make me look like I care too much? Because sometimes I consider it, & then I capitalize & throw a comma in anyway. I can’t help it.

    And yeah, even though the statistic I found about the D.C. ratio doesn’t seem very legit — there are plenty of available, attractive (or at least acceptable) guys here — but the one my mom found in the fall seems a little exaggerated, too.

    Thanks for the pic comment. I’d put the ridic on up when I changed my layout… & then got over it when I started to feel 16.

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  82. on February 2, 2009 at 11:37 pm ATC

    Field-tested 4 days post-flake. Result: FAIL

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  83. on February 2, 2009 at 11:40 pm Steve Johnson

    notfamous

    “This wouldn’t work on me. If I flaked on a guy, there was a good reason for it. This text only makes the guy seem bitter, and would even more confirm my decision.”

    So don’t try this or some girl who flaked on you will be uninterested in you. How you’re supposed to tell the difference between these two things will, of course, remain a mystery.

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  84. on February 2, 2009 at 11:41 pm Suburban Sweetheart

    Also… I haven’t read many of your other posts, so I’m guessing you’ve covered this someplace & I’ve missed it, but are the girls who text you back allowed to be playing the game, too? Because it seems that all too often guys comment on their game-playing abilities & assume that every girl who fools around with them is emotionally attached with low self-esteem. Past the age of, say, 21, most single, adult women know how to get what they want sexually, too, without falling in love with every guy they’re with, and I think guys too often underestimate the female ability to emotionally detach & “play the game” just to get some, too.

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  85. on February 2, 2009 at 11:43 pm Manup

    Tried this and she said turned it back on me and called me disappear mcdisappeary. when i said what she said i just disappeared on her after her dad’s so-called accident when she flaked.

    i used punctuation. damn.

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  86. on February 2, 2009 at 11:51 pm uallsuck

    in addition, does anyone who visits this site read a book, ever? or have a fucking hobby? holy crap. all you do is whine and generalize people’s behavior! it’s not even scientific! it’s just stupid! you’re stupid!!!

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  87. on February 2, 2009 at 11:58 pm roissy

    Field-tested 4 days post-flake. Result: FAIL

    there’s no ego back guarantee. game is about improved odds, not automatic wins.

    but are the girls who text you back allowed to be playing the game, too?

    girls play games whether they mean to or not. they are who are.

    guys comment on their game-playing abilities & assume that every girl who fools around with them is emotionally attached with low self-esteem.

    only betas like keith think that.

    I think guys too often underestimate the female ability to emotionally detach & “play the game” just to get some, too.

    some high testosterone girls can fuck around like men, but in general women are not as psychologically fortified for the pump and dump like men are. yep, i’ve written about this. rule of thumb: it takes around 3-5 bangs on separate occasions to trigger emotional bonding in the typical DC chick. for lawyers, add 100 bangs.

    Tried this and she said turned it back on me and called me disappear mcdisappeary.

    😆 the period will kill ya.

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  88. on February 3, 2009 at 12:28 am Welmer

    All you guys hating on cat people. Now I’m no big fan of weird old cat ladies, but since an encounter with a mountain lion when I was a boy, I’ve always had a healthy respect for cats, and some of them have been very good friends.

    Now check out this cat hanging out with his human buddies. He even brings his wenches and cubs around to spend some time with his old friends.

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  89. on February 3, 2009 at 2:58 am Days of Broken Arrows

    PA said: “Women only seem “mature” when you interact with them casually. But if a chick digs you she gets girly and childish, no matter how old she is.”

    Dude, this is a BRILLIANT observation and something so obvious I don’t know why I hadn’t noticed. This actually helps me in a situation I may be dealing with. Again, bravo — great observation!!

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  90. on February 3, 2009 at 9:08 am Patrick Bateman

    …I think guys too often underestimate the female ability to emotionally detach & “play the game” just to get some, too.

    While many women are just as capable as men at fucking someone once and not getting attached, very few have the strength to endure the life of a jizz bucket without feeling immense guilt. Most sluts aren’t attached to the dozens of men they’ve fucked, but they’re still jaded by years of treating themselves like shit. Her soul dies just a little bit with each facial.

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  91. on February 3, 2009 at 10:58 am curious

    situation:

    Me on Thursday: Let’s do something next week, I’ll call you
    Her: Yeah, do you come around here a lot (meaning her school)

    I didn’t answer.

    I call her yesterday, leave her a message, nothing yet.

    I’m thinking of saying something about her flaking tomorrow, too soon?

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  92. on February 3, 2009 at 11:08 am jkc

    i think Stagetwo is right

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  93. on February 3, 2009 at 11:32 am Gak Flower

    I certainly the noncaps/nopunct loucheosity.

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  94. on February 3, 2009 at 11:32 am Gak Flower

    *admire the

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  95. on February 3, 2009 at 2:35 pm sara I

    Lurker

    —ah, isn’t sara I a typical gonna-die-alone feminazi: if you don’t place women on a pedestal, you’re an evil, rotten man.

    You not from around here, are you? Those who know me (ha ha) would never accuse me of feminazi-ism, fool.

    enjoy the betas in your life, slut.

    Slut? XD

    Hilarious that you would cite Sean Connery as a man who kneels at women’s feet and kisses their asses—-’cause Sean Connery would smack you—no literally, because he believes in beating women:

    I know all about that. It’s roissy who thinks he’s Sean Connery’s alter ego. It’s roissy and minions who put Sean on a pedestal. Plus I’m talking more about the Bond persona. Bond would never slap a woman around as far as I know. I disagree obviously I hope with ‘bitch’ slapping. There are much better methods of shutting a woman up. Too bad Sean is not as self-possessed as Bond. Any questions?

    Bateman is correct in saying a real woman never, ever flakes. Roissy is chasing flakes all over D.C. and wondering why he keeps finding them.

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  96. on February 3, 2009 at 6:00 pm Keith

    “only betas like keith think that.”

    Roissy proves that I’m an alpha because he’s obsessed with calling me a beta.

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  97. on February 3, 2009 at 6:06 pm Keith

    Roissy had the chance to be a real man and truly qualify chicks and blow them off when they flaked, and actually demonstrate his value.

    Instead, he spent time figuring out how to be their dancing monkey, chose to send a text with poor punctuation and talking like one of them. This, despite the fact that he has, in the past, caimed that real men don’t send texts like that. By his own definitions, Roissy turned himself into a chick; a chick that he despises.

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  98. on February 3, 2009 at 6:18 pm AAA

    Beautiful! I’ve been wanting to know some effective ways of calling out flakes… in fact this hits at a perfect time for me. I’ll be trying this out a bit later in the week.

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  99. on February 3, 2009 at 10:48 pm Sparks123

    I got a text back in less than hour using this. She still had my number in her contacts but she used my name, but she didn’t quite remember who I was.

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  100. on February 3, 2009 at 11:45 pm Jerry

    It’s funny that people here are posting about how they have gotten a response after using it. oooo a response. bfd.

    frankly, a better blog post would be on how to either 1. not give a care if a girl responds or not or 2. be man enough that she wouldn’t flake on you in the first place.

    Really 2) is the most important. I laugh at all these betas including roissy who got owned and then whine about it and come up with these cutesy “comebacks” that make them look like they just watched spongebob squarepants. Men – time to grow up. Please. The problem isn’t the women, it’s with you.

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  101. on February 4, 2009 at 12:29 am Mason

    “Bond would never slap a woman around as far as I know” — sara

    No? Hmm, he doesn’t hesitate to strangle a woman or use one as a body shield.

    @ Suburban Sweetheart

    A man of experience assumes ALL women are detached and playing the game, consciously or not.

    It’s the inexperienced and culturally brainwashed men who mistake girlish behavior for being emotionally attached.

    If I’ve learned one thing from this blog, it’s that generally[American?] men are more romantic at their core than women. They are not culturally or biologically prepared for betrayal in the same way that women are.

    Lesson #2: never expect a woman to tell you, accurately, what you do that turns her off. As attraction declines so does honesty.

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  102. on February 4, 2009 at 12:41 am kthulah

    Mason says, “They are not culturally or biologically prepared for betrayal in the same way that women are.”

    This is because women are told that men are treacherous and lecherous by default. Men are told that somehow, the woman is always the victim.

    A few of us get the real story from our parents, but everywhere else is the message that men are predators against women and children. So men are taught to fight a monster in themselves that was usually artificially created. Then they’re blamed for the results of being convinced that they are somehow inherently more wrong than women.

    It’s like that saying though, “He who does the work gets the blame.” Because the society used to be patriarchal on the surface, men got the blame for everything wrong in society.

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  103. on February 5, 2009 at 12:00 pm JP

    “frankly, a better blog post would be on how to either be man enough that she wouldn’t flake on you in the first place.”

    that is impossible, there is no one “way”

    either shes feelin you or she aint. flakiness in a woman can strike at any time. whether youre Superalpha or Superbeta

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  104. on February 5, 2009 at 12:12 pm roissy

    jerry huffed:
    frankly, a better blog post would be on how to either 1. not give a care if a girl responds

    at some point, jerr, you’ve got to bust a move.

    or not or 2. be man enough that she wouldn’t flake on you in the first place.

    if you read my blog posts on this subject you’d see that i addressed this vacuous, trite complaint. the best way to avoid flakes is to “be a man” by getting her into the comfort stage of attraction before you leave with her number. but in those situations where this is not possible due to the circumstances, it’s better to walk away with a number that has a high chance of flaking than to walk away with no number at all. and if you do get such a weak number, you’d be wise to have an anti-flake strategy in case she does flake.

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  105. on February 5, 2009 at 12:23 pm Thursday

    but in those situations where this is not possible due to the circumstances, it’s better to walk away with a number that has a high chance of flaking than to walk away with no number at all.

    Yes, sometimes she really does have somewhere to go and therefore her leaving has nothing to do with you or your game.

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  106. on February 27, 2009 at 12:23 pm February 2009 Comment Winner « Roissy in DC

    […] Bowel explains how he reverses a flake in my post discussing this important geopolitical matter: This is like the time I texted a girl saying “whats up sucky mcdicksucker” and ten […]

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  107. on April 28, 2009 at 10:11 am Pulling Solid Number Closes « Roissy in DC

    […] the biggest obstacle is not getting the number; it’s getting the number in such a way that minimizes the odds she will flake. I read an interesting post on the blog written by one of Roosh’s day game […]

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  108. on April 29, 2009 at 2:38 am JM

    Used this tonight (sort of). In any event I was proud of it.

    [after much (mostly positive) back and forth]

    ME: Ok, I’m cruising to [bar] later, call me if you’re around

    HER [20 mins later]: Im tired town [editor’s note:?]

    ME: {nothing}

    HER [hour and 15 later]: I might stop for a drink. are you there

    ME: yea here with some friends

    HER: im going to come

    HER [twenty minues later]: o [editor’s note: ?]

    HER [additional twenty minutes]: hey, i changed my mind. i cant be around that scene tonight. going home, have a good night and talk soon

    ME [10 mins later]: k ms. flakester

    HER [almost immediately]: no no. im just sparing every one from conflict between [friend] and i. it is like breaking up from a boydriend [editor’s note: I have no idea what this refers to]

    ME: {nothing}

    HER [twenty minutes later]: id say you guys could come her but it is far from your home

    ME [ten mins]: its cool, maybe ill see you some other time

    HER [almost immediately]: okeedokee

    HER [soon after]: like tomorrow!

    ME [15 mins]: haha, call me ill be around

    I think my prospects are good. And if not, I have maintained my manly integrity and sometimes that is all that matters.

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  109. on July 25, 2009 at 10:51 pm Jet

    Field tested twice:

    1. After about a week of dead air and two unanswered texts:
    – Sent mcflakey text
    Four days later (?) she apologizes and wants to take me out to dinner.
    Result: Success.

    2. Currently in progress. She responds immediately with ‘hey’. I ask how her night’s goin’ and she responds elaborately… Will update.
    Preliminary Result: Success.

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  110. on August 7, 2009 at 5:08 pm Jay

    Context, JM. Provide it.

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  111. on December 10, 2009 at 2:18 am KM3

    Hi All,
    I’d love advice from the man himself, and/or you valiant readers. Basically I think I may have played the following scenario quite badly. Having only stumbled across this excellent website today, I am quite pissed that I couldn’t have read some of your views during the incident, but oh well.

    Also, just before I tell the tale, I’d like to agree with el chief (Feb 2,2009), who above explained his new practice how when a girl flakes once/twice/etc. how they get demoted from long-term material, to casual, and then ignored.

    My tale:

    We met online. She is 27yo (I’m 31), blonde, 5’11” and slender, very pretty, half polish and half italian origins – just the type I always beat-off over when I download porn when I’m in the mood.

    First date (after usual 1hr get-to-know you phone call which was nice), had some drinks at a bar on a weeknight. Things were going well, and to my surprise she invited me back to her house and we played with her dog, had one more drink, and then fucked. I was actually a bit disappointed she wanted to sleep together on the first night. I had a niggling feeling at the time that this was not the best action considering I wanted to fuck her many times, not like a girl where you are only curious (about her breasts for example) but basically know you won’t see her for more than a night or two. I think most readers will understand this.

    So, she dropped me off at a train station the next day and I sent her a txt saying I’d had fun etc. (Not trying to be too keen, but indicating I wanted to see her again.) She replied and appologised for not driving me all the way home. She also said she was hung over as hell, jokingly.

    I txd’ed her that evening, asking her how her day had been. No reply.

    Waited 2 more days (using all my strength since I didn’t want to seem needy) and then sent her something like: ‘So are we still gonna meet up Friday?’ I thought this was appropriate since we had mentioned meeting up on that night. No reply.

    Next night, I decided to up the anti a little, with another txt: ‘Hey, not sure whats going on. Call me if you wanna see me again.’ Got a CALL straight away – ‘works crazy, blah blah’. Then she says ‘Did you think I was ignoring you?’ I said, well, err, kinda. She says ‘Don’t be silly!’ blah blah. Then she says we’ll do something on friday. I say ok, that was that.
    No call/txt all day fri and finally I txted her late fri (I was drunk at a party) and said are we meeting up? Txt’ed me back saying crazy day at work again..

    Anyway I’m boring myself writing this story. Suffice to say, she kept ignoring my txts and calls for about another week, and then making lame excuses, and then I asked her straight-up do you want to see me again or not? This is the annoying thing – she said yes. Why not just say no? grrr.
    So, sure enough the same behaviour continued for a few more days (she would say one thing and then ignore me.) It was truly farcical, and very annoying.
    I sent her a txt saying I thought she liked playing with people’s emotions and that I suspected she’d ben abused. Just a little parting shot. So, it’s over now, but I’m sure I coulda played it so much better.

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