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Obama’s Women, Part 2

February 9, 2009 by CH

Here’s this link to a New York Beta Times story about SWPL perimenopausal women having dreams of Barack Obama — psychosexual fantasies and stalkerish glorifications of the Obama family. The NYBTimes has been churning out some truly vomitus copy as of late, but for sheer sickening nausea this story may very well spew the farthest.

One woman wrote that when she couldn’t get to sleep at night, she “lay in bed and thought about the Obama girls in their rooms at the White House. I thought about Marian Robinson up on the third floor. And about Barack and Michelle, a couple who clearly have a ‘thing’ for each other, spooning together in bed. It helped me relax.”

When, generations from now, our Islamic and Mexican overlords have gathered to discuss the exact moment the American empire fell to pieces and reverted to a pre-civilizational Mad Max tribal wasteland, someone will point to this quote in the ancient tablets of the New York Times, and heads will nod in agreement.

I’ve already written about Obama’s women, and the sexual mores of girls who voted for him, so there aren’t many new lessons to glean from this article that haven’t been discussed before. This story has made the rounds, and been roundly ridiculed by many other bloggers. If there were any remaining doubts that giving women the right to vote has been an unmitigated disaster for America, this article should dispel them. Most women, especially single SWPLers and undersexed hausfraus bitter about being married to quisling betas, are simply unserious creatures who will let their emotions guide them to vote away the political and social arrangements that created the modern yenta-fied culture that affords them the luxury of voting like vapid teenage girls. If history is any guide, and if fortune should shine upon the United States before the point of no return is reached, a cooperative, horizontally structured patriarchy will reemerge and supplant the suicidally insane matricentric sick culture and stateless citizen of the world globopuppeteer elites playing “let’s you and him fight” currently running the show. I think it will happen soon, perhaps within five years. It may be violent as the authoritarian sanctimonious Boomer pricks and Gen X lackeys are overthrown.

The other day a friend of mine confided that in the weeks leading up to the election, the Obamas’ apparent joy as a couple had made her just miserable. Their marriage looked so much happier than hers. Their life seemed so perfect. “I was at a place where I was tempted daily to throttle my husband,” she said. “This coincided with Michelle saying the most beautiful things about Barack. Each time I heard her speak about him I got tears in my eyes — because I felt so far away from that kind of bliss in my own life and perhaps even more, because I was so moved by her expressions of devotion to him.”

BOTY candidate right here. Imagine being this bitch’s husband and reading this quote from your wife in the paper. I bet she showed him the article, proudly pointing out where she was quoted publicly humiliating him. “Here, honey, check this out. I’m in the New York Times!” The poor, wretched beta would probably work double time to win his wife’s approval, when he should be doing just the opposite — kicking her cottage cheese ass to the curb.

Relatedly, I was talking to a typical urban slut machine and she asked who I voted for. I said I didn’t vote. She reeled back, shocked. “You didn’t VOTE?!?” “Nope,” I repeated. “Voting is a useless exercise.” She leaned over to her girlfriend and spoke in her ear. They made OMG faces. Both of them looked at me suspiciously, frowning. Their reaction was as if I had told them that I killed a pregnant woman and dumped the body in the Potomac. The Obama Age scales of moral opprobium are completely out of whack. She returned. “What are you registered as?” “Independent.” “Independent? Hmm.” Girls know that when a man says Independent he means “Non-Democrat”.

I got the bang and marked her number in my phone as a “Tier 2” number.

***

In other news, I nearly interrupted a mugging in progress. I was literally five feet away walking down an alley that serves as a makeshift parking lot when an early 20s black dude, thugged out to the max, stuck a gun in the gut of a 50ish well-dressed white man (soft target) walking in my direction, and barked at him “You know what to do”. The middle-aged guy yelped when he apprehended what was happening. I broke out into a half-run and turned a corner off the alley about a hundred feet from the scene. Since this was a city hood on a weekend night, I expected to see a cop car nearby I could flag down. No such luck. No cops anywhere to be found. Did they take the night off? Way to be available, guys. What are we paying you for, again?

After a few minutes, I gave up trying to locate a cop and dialed 911. As I’m standing on the street in the middle of the nightlife crowd giving the description to the lady on the phone, the mugger casually strolls right by me on the sidewalk. He’s walking with a buddy. He’s got bills in his hand that he’s flipping through, and his buddy is cackling with glee. I relayed this information.

I never saw cops arrive. No doubt the guy got away scot free. The US is heading for a meltdown if criminals feel they can act with such impunity and fearlessness that they can blithely walk away from the scene unconcerned about being caught. I wondered who the victim voted for.

As a friend of mine said, “After a certain amount of time living in the city, you either settle down or move to a new city.” He’s right. It’s starting to feel like Groundhog Day. A move is on the horizon.

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  1. on February 9, 2009 at 1:17 pm Titty Monster

    Me like titties! Nom nom nom. Me not touch titties, me eat titties!

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  2. on February 9, 2009 at 1:24 pm ironrailsironweights

    I thought about Marian Robinson up on the third floor

    Kinky.

    thought about the Obama girls in their rooms at the White House

    Ultra-kinky.

    Thinking about Michelle’s GNP: not kinky at all.

    Peter

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  3. on February 9, 2009 at 1:30 pm JM

    “Most women, especially single SWPLers and undersexed hausfraus bitter about being married to quisling betas, are simply unserious creatures who will let their emotions guide them to vote away the political and social arrangements that created the modern yenta-fied culture that affords them the luxury of voting like vapid teenage girls.”

    I think this is totally accurate, but can you seriously blame the disintegration of American politics on exclusively women voters? Say we revoked a women’s right to vote. At least 70% of the beer swilling, football watching, fart joke laughing man-boy population would still be utterly unqualified to make any kind of serious decision about who should be the leader of the free world. Sure, they all have the advantage of a fundamentally more logic-oriented brain, but said underdeveloped brain would still be incapable of grasping even the simplest economic or diplomatic principles. In the end they’d just choose the guy more likely to laugh at their jokes and scope babes with them on the weekend. Either way, the country goes down the shitter and American politics remains an unbearable local community theater production.

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  4. on February 9, 2009 at 1:35 pm Rick

    Agreed with JM.

    “the luxury of voting like vapid teenage girls”

    Lets not forget that this is how Bush got his votes, but thats of course in the past, and the while he ushered in the true decline of America, its easy to gloss over all of that these days. I’m not going to act like the stimulus bill very possibly could make things worse, but lets be realistic about the position we have been put in.

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  5. on February 9, 2009 at 1:36 pm Thras

    JM is probably right. Let’s restrict suffrage to property-owners.

    Or better yet, let’s repeal everything after the Magna Carta. In retrospect, it’s probably all been a mistake.

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  6. on February 9, 2009 at 1:49 pm Sebastian Flyte

    Laura Linney said that looking at Obama’s face was like ‘staring into the sun’.

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  7. on February 9, 2009 at 1:54 pm ironrailsironweights

    Laura Linney said that looking at Obama’s face was like ’staring into the sun’.

    So if you do it long enough you’ll go blind?

    Peter

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  8. on February 9, 2009 at 2:00 pm anony

    “Voting is a useless exercise.”

    Considering the opportunity cost, time spent, and futility of one vote, this is certainly true. Freakonomics authors pay a chapter to this topic. However, there is nothing like being denied the opportunity to vote, to increase this symbolic act on ones priority list. In 1988 election, my work requirements precluded voting. Absentee voting was not common knowledge. My welfare-class patients were off voting for Jesse Jackson, but I had no opportunity.

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  9. on February 9, 2009 at 2:03 pm Rick

    haha theres a level of rock-hard that his “soaring rhetoric” brings that porn star moans just cant compare to.

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  10. on February 9, 2009 at 2:03 pm JM

    Hey, Thras, the founders knew full well that a volatile mob-rule-pandering-huckster-politician dynamic was plainly unsustainable for any large and powerful state. They knew that complicated, highly consequential decisions could only be managed by the most elite slither of humanity. That’s why the privilege of voting isn’t included in that short-list of universal rights, “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.”

    Then again, when you give the overman class free-reign, they tend to be pretty self-serving. And they also tend to develop delusions of invincibility that are probably just as dangerous as the average American’s gaping ignorance. So, while restricting suffrage to educated property-owners would be a good start, it’s more likely that your last sentiment is the most appropriate attitude to have.

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  11. on February 9, 2009 at 2:03 pm Titty Monster

    By the way, why didn’t you run game on the early 20’s black dude? You could have negged him about his choice of handgun, then demonstrated disinterested body language by angling your left foot 60 degrees, and if that did not work, reset your Playstation and start over.

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  12. on February 9, 2009 at 2:13 pm Chuck

    Late-night DC literally sounds like Gotham City especially in “Dark Knight.” No fear of recourse either from the police or a gun-carrying law-abiding segment of the population (from restricted gun laws?) allows guys to laugh as they count their stolen money. Sounds crazy. This mixed with the relative unattractiveness of DC chicks makes me wonder why anyone would go out on a weekend night in the District.

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  13. on February 9, 2009 at 2:16 pm Kick a Bitch

    Fuck DC man. I grew up in Silver Spring and will NEVER be going back except to visit old friends.

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  14. on February 9, 2009 at 2:21 pm josh

    Too bad the 50ish whitey wasnt packing a gun. I would have loved to hear about him taking this N’s head off!I wonder if this guy is an O’B lover,and how he feels about gun control? As for the bitches,one thing to remember,among the “whiter” people Obama is of course the Next Big Thing. (Until the idiot crashes and burns)And the vain,self-centered sex wants nothing more than to be part of the party. Look at ME!! BTW I like the broad saying she wants to “throttle” her hubby. In this group I am sure theres no bigger taboo than the horrifying unthinkable unspeakable crime of a male daring to lift his hand to the Precious Woman. I think that causes a lot of these broads to bully their hubbys.

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  15. on February 9, 2009 at 2:23 pm jonathanjones02

    It is becoming increasingly difficult to parody Obama supporters.

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  16. on February 9, 2009 at 2:29 pm Anon

    “I was literally five feet away walking down an alley that serves as a makeshift parking lot when an early 20s black dude, thugged out to the max, stuck a gun in the gut of a 50ish well-dressed white man”

    Sticking it to Da Man!

    Maybe your eyes deceived you as to the mugger’s age. You sure it wasn’t a forty-something black guy, light complexion, short hair, with Kenyan features?

    “The middle-aged guy yelped when he apprehended what was happening.”

    At least now it’s one less middle-aged white guy who’s clueless about what’s happening in this country.

    “I broke out into a half-run”

    Translation: I pissed my pants.

    I wouldn’t have called the cops. Fuck the victim. Let him deal with the bullshit that men his generation have led this country into. I would’ve mocked him by yelling “Obama ’08!”

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  17. on February 9, 2009 at 2:32 pm Anon

    Lets not forget that this is how Bush got his votes, but thats of course in the past, and the while he ushered in the true decline of America, its easy to gloss over all of that these days. I’m not going to act like the stimulus bill very possibly could make things worse, but lets be realistic about the position we have been put in.

    Rick- “It was like that when I got here” isn’t an excuse. America has been declining long before Bush got into office. You’re late to the game.

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  18. on February 9, 2009 at 2:32 pm DF

    Some years back I stopped a rape on a NYC subway platform. It wasn’t even that late at night but I heard a woman scream just as I was about to get on the train pulling into the station. I ran over to where the screams were coming from and saw a black guy dragging a pretty smartly dressed blond woman out of the subway car. As I ran over the guy saw me coming and let go of the girl who fell between us. The woman was in such a state of panic that she ran off herself in the other direction the moment she regained her footing as I propped her up. I didn’t even have time to say, “you ok?” It was surreal. Cops? No where to be found. They exist to do two things. Give out tickets and mop up crime scenes. This country needs a reboot.

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  19. on February 9, 2009 at 2:36 pm DF

    Haha! VK you are a comic genius.

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  20. on February 9, 2009 at 2:38 pm Anon

    “Lets not forget that this is how Bush got his votes, but thats of course in the past, and the while he ushered in the true decline of America, its easy to gloss over all of that these days.”

    Bush truly fucked America because the second that single women don’t have a strong alpha, political figure is the second they turn into teenage girls at the voting booth.

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  21. on February 9, 2009 at 2:39 pm Rick

    Anon, totally fair point, depending on what youre talking about. Im not excusing anything, just saying lets not forget that we basically gave a teenager the keys to the ferarri for 8 years, and its obviously relevant in a lot of our current problems.

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  22. on February 9, 2009 at 2:42 pm Johnny_Marks

    At JM: “I think this is totally accurate, but can you seriously blame the disintegration of American politics on exclusively women voters?”

    Vote counts have shown that if women didn’t have the right to vote, the only Democrat elected President after FDR would have been Lyndon Johnson in 1964. (And if women didn’t have the right to vote, Kennedy wouldn’t have been elected, hence no need to elect Johnson in the aftermath of the JFK assassination.)

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  23. on February 9, 2009 at 2:43 pm Anon

    “I stopped a rape on a NYC subway platform. I ran over to where the screams were coming from and saw a black guy dragging a pretty smartly dressed blond woman out of the subway car.”

    Risking one’s life to help a woman used to be alpha when this used to be a patriarchal country and women truly needed and appreciated male strength.

    Today, this country is firmly liberal, feminist, and pro-female/anti-male, so risking your life to help a woman is one of the most beta things you can do.

    Betcha she voted Obama.

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  24. on February 9, 2009 at 2:44 pm 25 to Life

    “Some years back I stopped a rape on a NYC subway platform…”

    Was this back in the 80’s? NYC was crazy then. Guys tried to mug my father in 2 seperate incidents back then. Both times he managed to give do some damage. One guy went down the steps on the El in Brooklyn, the other ended up on the tracks. I remember my mom asking my dad if he told the police. he responded, “Why bother? He’s lucky he wasn’t shot dead, but then again he was never the kind of guy to just hand over the money.

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  25. on February 9, 2009 at 2:47 pm lurker

    jonathanjones02:
    “It is becoming increasingly difficult to parody Obama supporters.”

    —That is a great, great quote my friend.

    “Lets not forget that this is how Bush got his votes.”

    Casitgating Bush voters as morons is pretty dumb, Obama boys. Bush will be saved by history, and your precious Michael- Moore-lead media will be studied as a lesson in how the 4th estate can manipulate the people through propaganda. But don’t worry, at least we got a terrorist-coddler as president!

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  26. on February 9, 2009 at 2:49 pm Rain And

    “The other day a friend of mine confided that in the weeks leading up to the election, the Obamas’ apparent joy as a couple had made her just miserable. Their marriage looked so much happier than hers. Their life seemed so perfect. “I was at a place where I was tempted daily to throttle my husband,” she said. “This coincided with Michelle saying the most beautiful things about Barack. Each time I heard her speak about him I got tears in my eyes — because I felt so far away from that kind of bliss in my own life and perhaps even more, because I was so moved by her expressions of devotion to him.”

    Instead of hiding what you are really trying to say behind a bunch of cryptic, wordy bullshit, why not try clear and concise: “I am unhappy because I am not married to the most powerful man in the world, like Michelle Obama.”

    Because if it’s REALLY Michelle’s devoted behavior that moves you to tears, as you imply, instead of simple, ugly envy over her Alpha-of-All-Alphas husband who you believe is actually worthy of female respect, unlike your own husband, then your road to an equally happy marriage is the simplest thing in the world: imitate your hero Michelle and say “the most beautiful things” about your husband. Make “expressions of devotion” to him.

    Soon you too will have that perfect, story-book marriage. Shit, there might even be sex!!:

    “There was some daydreaming too, much of it a collective fantasy about the still-hot Obama marriage. “Barack and Michelle Obama look like they have sex. They look like they like having sex,” a Los Angeles woman wrote to me, summing up the comments of many. “Often. With each other. These days when the sexless marriage is such a big celebrity in America..”

    WOW!!! Can you hardly believe it!! Some women have husbands that actually inspire real sexual desire!

    For many women this appears to be one exciting, but highly abstract notion. As strange and sad as that seems to me.

    And, again, this isn’t really about “Barack and Michelle,” it’s about Barack vs. the caliber of men who would ever commit to you. Most men “like having sex.. Often”. If you really wanted to fuck, your husband or boyfriend would probably want to too. But you don’t want to, because non-Alphas don’t inspire those feelings.

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  27. on February 9, 2009 at 2:50 pm DF

    Today, this country is firmly liberal, feminist, and pro-female/anti-male, so risking your life to help a woman is one of the most beta things you can do.

    Shiiiiiiit, I know that now but I was raised to be a man no matter the context.

    Betcha she voted Obama.

    No doubt.

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  28. on February 9, 2009 at 2:54 pm Wounded Animal

    Bush truly fucked America because the second that single women don’t have a strong alpha, political figure is the second they turn into teenage girls at the voting booth.

    This is a very good point. My impression of Bush has always been that he was a wrongly promoted beta.

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  29. on February 9, 2009 at 2:57 pm PA

    Let him deal with the bullshit that men his generation have led this country into.

    There is a small chance he’s a raised-on-a-family-farm Vietman vet from Oklahoma who back in the day greased a few Charlies, beat up a couple of smelly hippies and then seduced their (uhm!) unshaved hippie girlfriends.

    Cops? No where to be found. They exist to do two things. Give out tickets and mop up crime scenes.

    In cities, yes. Worse than useless. They’ll scowl at you for report a smashed-in car window with your radio stolen, as happened to my buddy.

    But in hideously non-diverse counties of Lance’s nightmares, outside of urban areas? The cops are awesome.

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  30. on February 9, 2009 at 3:23 pm Lance

    hideously non-diverse counties of Lance’s nightmares

    huh?

    again, i could care less if individuals choose to segregate themselves; as long as the individual decision is theirs to make. personally, i prefer cities to suburbia. that’s in part because i like diversity (different music, different food, different movie); but if some people feel most comfortable sequestered away in suburbia, more power to them.

    i’ve lived in cities my whole life, and, for me, the positives outweigh the negatives. i’ve never been mugged or had an apartment that was burglarized; that’s mostly because i have some basic level of street smarts.

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  31. on February 9, 2009 at 3:24 pm Thor

    Where, exactly, did the mugging take place? You say it was in an alley that serves as a makeshift parking lot, presumably near 18th St. Can you be more specific? And what time did it happen?

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  32. on February 9, 2009 at 3:29 pm sara I

    Most people are pointlessly looking for a savior of one kind or another.

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  33. on February 9, 2009 at 3:30 pm PA

    It was just a friendly dig, Lance.

    Diversity is nice when it’s reflected by the stamps in your passport. But in the end, if I have to hear my neighbor’s music from his backyard on a Saturday afternoon, I prefer it to be pop rather than R&B, heavy metal rather than hiphop. And if Katrina-like anarchy were to sweep through my area, I’d prefer to have 95-IQ rednecks with guns as neighbors rather than the folks who filled up the Superdome.

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  34. on February 9, 2009 at 3:31 pm DF

    Was this back in the 80’s? NYC was crazy then.

    No, it was in the mid 90s and I was far more impetuous then.

    But in hideously non-diverse counties of Lance’s nightmares, outside of urban areas? The cops are awesome.

    Agree with you there PA. Once cities did away with the local beat cop, the familiar face around the block that provided something of an authority figure, the cities lost that sense of community that such figures provided. Now cops are more or less anonymous and patrol neighborhoods which they are not residents of so they have no incentive to care for its inhabitants.

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  35. on February 9, 2009 at 3:36 pm gig

    Shiiiiiiit, I know that now but I was raised to be a man no matter the context.

    me too. But then you think how she voted, how she would empathize with the rapist if it was another woman in that situation, how she masturbates thinking about Barack Obama, and it kills your will to do anything.

    I would be much more “masculine” if the girl were wearing a “McCain – Palin 08” t-shirt

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  36. on February 9, 2009 at 3:40 pm Sean

    I highly recommend NYC, but I’m probably biased.

    Excellent post. I can relate to the Obama-mania. I voted for him, but the way everyone I know is worshiping him, I’m starting to regret voting at all. One of my roommates has become intolerable, and he’s a guy.

    Also, It’s always nice, when the weather is so surprisingly and suspiciously nice, to be reminded that the country’s going down the shitter faster than I can even finish typing this reply.

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  37. on February 9, 2009 at 3:44 pm Anonymous

    what about Stormy Daniels…

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  38. on February 9, 2009 at 3:44 pm RP in TX

    who wins in a fight?: a. your fists – b. his gun.

    Goddamn I’m glad I live in Texas. Who wins in a fight? My Glock, fucker.

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  39. on February 9, 2009 at 3:47 pm jaakkeli

    Lest someone think that it’s only a problem with diversity, I live in a non-diverse but high crime section of Helsinki and the authorities are next to useless. When I moved in as a naive country boy, I’d still make the silly calls when I’d see people knifing each other, but today I just walk past. Why bother? If the cops show up to do something, the courts will just let them go anyway.

    i’ve lived in cities my whole life,

    How about people who would rather live in non-diverse urban areas? They can’t be formed, since that would be discrimination and some social engineer will appear to force feed diversity on hideously white areas. Even if you’re a libertarian who’d strike down anti-discrimination laws and social engineering, that program is utopian compared to eg. immigration restriction.

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  40. on February 9, 2009 at 3:51 pm Chuck

    “Goddamn I’m glad I live in Texas.”

    Amen. I had a buddy living in my hometown in Texas. Sold some recreational bud on the side. Two brothas and one of their hood-rats bust in his door one night wanting his money. One held a gun to his girl’s head. My buddy was in the back room, got his shotgun, and blasted one of the motherfuckers in the chest. True story. We need more of that.

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  41. on February 9, 2009 at 3:52 pm Lance

    i’m curious as to why you all seem to think this is the end of the world as we know it. you act is if this country has not seen worse days. no matter what sort of crime you find in DC today, it’s nothing compared to what it was twenty years ago.

    you’re pretending as if judith miller is the new voice of the american people rather than the voice of a certain segment of white, liberal, upper-class urban dwellers. remember; the SWPL lifestyle is only made possible by economic abundance. if we are indeed in for a long economic downturn, you’ll see this way of thinking become rarer and rarer. think of it this way: liberal do-gooders pay a premium for their choices. if things start heading down hill, fewer and fewer people are going to be willing to continue paying that premium.

    it’s like starbucks. look at this article:

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123413848760761577.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

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  42. on February 9, 2009 at 4:11 pm whiskey

    In New Orleans, there were two types of guys I knew. Some carried money that they gladly handed over, looked down, were meek, avoided confrontation with muggers. Their whole modus operandi was to be as politically correct as possible, however a good number were fairly Alpha with women and conservative.

    Others, from less high-class backgrounds, carried firearms legally or otherwise, and figured they’d fight if confronted. Not for the money itself, but because they feared getting killed, which was fairly common then pre-Katrina. I knew a few assistant DAs, socially, and they told me juries would never convict, even if the victims were all Black and deeply sympathetic. It was viewed as a Black social duty to avoid conviction, something middle Class Black guys I knew from East New Orleans (where the Marsalis family lived) confirmed.

    Social dysfunction grows. Generally, the more cops become useless, the more men will simply carry firearms illegally and fight it out over fear of being killed.

    As for women, the shift was profound when most women stopped gettng married (what your husband makes and his opportunities matter as much as your hatred of Beta White guys). Single women never voted for Bush nor would they ever have approved of Bush’s actions of doing whatever he thought it took to stop another 9/11. Which, he obviously did.

    Women, now even married women (see the shift in tone in the NYT articles about married women fantasizing about screwing Obama the powerful male Alpha) would rather see half of America nuked than fight back because too many “Beta” type guys would take power. Far fewer socially prominent guys promoted by women as Alpha, guys who are like Ike, or Patton, or Jimmy Stewart (25 missions over Germany) and so on. None of whom exactly stimulate widespread female desire.

    Women love guys like Brad Pitt, a pretty boy with social status, and hate guys like say, the late James Whitmore, genuine decorated tough guy Marine in WWII. Or for that matter Don Adams (ditto). [Adams had a chestful of medals as a tough Marine in the Pacific Theater and modeled Maxwell Smart’s “quack” on a pompous officer and William Powell, both of whom he hated.]

    Women are not going anywhere, they’re not changing their preferences either until catastrophe strikes, so might as well sit back and watch the disaster play out.

    Spot on for the attitudes towards guys who rescue women. Women generally hate that, and prefer violent dangerous men who abuse them. Rescuing women is particularly beta, women will despise any man who does it, so can expect far less of it as time goes on.

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  43. on February 9, 2009 at 4:19 pm Bwahaha

    “I had a buddy living in my hometown in Texas. Sold some recreational bud on the side. Two brothas and one of their hood-rats bust in his door one night wanting his money. One held a gun to his girl’s head. My buddy was in the back room, got his shotgun, and blasted one of the motherfuckers in the chest. True story. We need more of that.”

    You mean, more small-time drug-related violence, with small-time losers doing gun play on each other? Sounds great.

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  44. on February 9, 2009 at 4:23 pm cptnapalm

    This is almost identical to stuff I remember from when Clinton was first elected: fantasies about sex with the president, etc.

    It is probably a case of a bunch of female journalists who talk to their friends and then decide that what they have to say is obviously a national trend seeing as their gals are all cosmopolitan and, like y’know, stuff.

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  45. on February 9, 2009 at 4:29 pm Gen'l Butt Naked

    Damn, whiskey, you should have a blog.

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  46. on February 9, 2009 at 4:31 pm Benedict Smith

    scary, scary times indeed. i like how the one-time/first-time voters of this election always act aghast if you pretend to have not voted/didn’t vote. reminds me of the newfound politically inclined people who were all of a sudden “informed” after watching Fahrenheit 9/11. spare me.

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  47. on February 9, 2009 at 4:39 pm Michael Blowhard

    “The New York Beta Times” is a really good joke.

    We should all grab hold of it, use it, use it some more, and then never let it go. Let’s put ’em on the defensive and shame ’em for being such Stalinists of wussiness.

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  48. on February 9, 2009 at 5:01 pm T. AKA Ricky Raw

    “The New York Beta Times” is a really good joke.

    We should all grab hold of it, use it, use it some more, and then never let it go. Let’s put ‘em on the defensive and shame ‘em for being such Stalinists of wussiness.

    Eh, it’s a good joke, but I disagree about the shaming aspect. Won’t work, because I don’t think liberal SWPL men really see being called “beta” as shameful, in fact I bet they’d see it as a badge of honor. These are the kind of guys that enjoy wearing women’s jeans and brag about being mistaken for gay and call themselves feminists and get more outraged than women about the objectification of women in the media and negative body images blahblahblah.

    I could see them saying “if caring about women and the environment and improving the world and fighting global warming makes me a beta, i’ll wear the label with pride. alphas like george w bush ruined this country anyway.”

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  49. on February 9, 2009 at 5:02 pm lurker

    RW, I agree, I think Obama is a beta. The dynamic between his dominatrix-acting wife and him denotes a pussy-whipped man.

    Liberal men tend to be 1 of 3 types:

    1) Alpha manipulators: Clinton or John Edwards. Know enough about the system to know that telling single harpies and married shrews exactly what they want to hear to get laid: abortion, nanny state, high taxes on the men who blatantly outperform them, etc. B.S.ers to the end, but willing to blow a building up and keep their wives in line. To wit: neither their wives have left them, despite openly screwing around on them.

    2) Whipped betas: Obama, Harry Reid. Dominated by women and dedicated to taking stuff from the wealthy/strong to the weak/lazy for “fairness,” which is whatever they think is fair. Beg for pussy. Wives control them.

    3) Nutcase extremists: William Ayers, Jeremiah Wright. May be alpha or beta–hard to tell, usually beta, but so dedicated to a cause made up in their left-wing heads it hardly matters.

    The funny part is this current cabinet/white house might show an inversion of the accepted social stereotype, namely, a white male might seduce a black male away from her husband. Clinton is now around,with his wife as Sec. State, and Michelle is exactly the type of man-hating/America-hating shrew who go weak for him. Obama would probably just turn over and cry if he caught Clinton pounding that Klingon in the Pres’s bedroom. And then write another check mark next to Iran’s name on the chalkboard for its nuclear weapons.

    We’re screwed. Bush kicked ass.

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  50. on February 9, 2009 at 5:06 pm lurker

    “I could see them saying “if caring about women and the environment and improving the world and fighting global warming makes me a beta, i’ll wear the label with pride. alphas like george w bush ruined this country anyway.””

    —Unfortunately, T AKA Ricky Raw, I do believe the disease has infested these pathetic men so much it has reached that point. They have been so whipped into submission, they move from my category 2 to 3; they would rather sacrifice themselves for a feminist cause than have any semblence of self respect.

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  51. on February 9, 2009 at 5:09 pm BasilRansom

    Has anyone seen the memo sent out by the new female Yahoo CEO – her unprofessionalism and ditziness presents a strong case for a return to ‘kinder, kuche, kirche.’ :

    “That was before I saw the cafeteria–it rocks! Forget that leftover stuff!…I’m going to spend my weekend shopping for something purple (great excuse for a little retail therapy)” [not putting a link in to sidestep moderation.]

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  52. on February 9, 2009 at 5:14 pm Lance

    I could see them saying “if caring about women and the environment and improving the world and fighting global warming makes me a beta, i’ll wear the label with pride. alphas like george w bush ruined this country anyway.”

    this is why as much as i find the behavior of some women today, especially in DC, to be absolutely ridiculous, i still put most of the blame on men.

    if you read the obama fantasies these women are having, they mostly feature obama as alpha male and the women being judged or servile in some capacity. basically, these women are imagining obama as the high-achieving, well-providing man that they think they’re husbands aren’t. the sad part is that their husbands probably work their asses off to provide their wives with ridiculous and unnecessary lifestyles; but since they’re so beta, there’s no such thing as enough.

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  53. on February 9, 2009 at 5:16 pm z

    Michael Blowhard:

    The CARLOS SLIM TIMES, not the New York Times.

    Carlos Slim lent the New York Times 250 million at 14% interest. He is already getting the editorial content he has bought and paid for.

    Carlos Slim is a Lebanese Billionaire who made his money in Mexico. He has something of a monopoly on the Mexican phone system. He is now richer than Bill Gates. He has innovated nothing. He is just a average monopolist who has bought and paid for policies friendly to his businesses in the very corrupt Mexico.

    Other suggestions to call the New York Times:

    New York SLIMES.
    The Slimes.
    Carlos Slim Times.

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  54. on February 9, 2009 at 5:19 pm Beta guy

    The downfall was the women’s vote. A majority of men are always more concerned about security issues than women.
    Women always go touchy-feely. You can’t do that on this planet and survive.

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  55. on February 9, 2009 at 5:20 pm RW

    Oh and if anything Iran clearly sees Obama as a weak beta. They already pissed on him and us as a result of the lame let’s all join in a chorus of kumbaya.

    The Obama interview to the Middle East was horrid. He completely overlooked the US role in Kuwait, (liberation), Kosovo, (liberation), Iraq (liberation), Lebanon (attempted liberation), Palestine (elections), and made it out like the US should be listening to the despotic dictators who are fiercely fighting to hold onto their power and using any means including pointing to others as the reason for their failures.

    Iran clearly got the message. Russia got the beta message (they said they would counter Poland and the Czech Republic’s defensive missiles with offensive ones nearby) and other nations are taking note that it’s time to get back to pissing on the US again.

    We are all Zimbabwe now. At best, Obama and his neo-marxist crowd want to turn the US into Venezuela.

    At the moment, they are fighting to put in an amendment in the pork bill to make employers check on hires for citizenship status. It’s called E-verify and it’s a simple efficient system.

    Well guess who will be fighting it? And guess what they have up their sleeves sooner than later. Shamnesty or the Republic killer as I call it. 20+ non-English speaking uneducated Mexicans will be given citizenship and free invites to all their “family” to come up and hang in the USA.

    It’ll be all over then. A permanent underclass that will add to the entitlement voters and turn the nation from free to a nanny state. Once 51% can vote to take from the other 49%, the Republic is finished.

    The numbers are just about at the tipping point now.

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  56. on February 9, 2009 at 5:22 pm lurker

    The president also gives a lot of these whores to have the “black male fantasy” they long secretly wanted but were too afraid to have out loud.

    Now, if their husbands/betas get angry, they can say, “” I’m allowed to fantasize, beta, and you’re just being a RACIST.”

    Meanwhile, one reason she wants him is BECAUSE HE IS BLACK. In other words, she is the racist.

    The hypocrisy of liberals and insanity of women makes me wonder how they even get dressed properly in the morning.

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  57. on February 9, 2009 at 5:23 pm Kirt33

    And btw, Obama is a beta. His wife didn’t even give him a kiss when he got inaugurated. She turned her face and made him kiss her check. I noticed it but found it odd no one even commented on it.

    Makes you wonder why she’s so ‘happy’ with him. Why is she?

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  58. on February 9, 2009 at 5:26 pm RW

    correction:

    20+ million illegal aliens. And their families. Obama and Nancy Pelosi will be thrilled to bring them aboard and put them on the public dole.

    Those that work will push jobs and salaries down for the rest of Americans. Wall St. will cheer and finance Obama again and Americans will be left wondering how and why it happened.

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  59. on February 9, 2009 at 5:30 pm RW

    Wild speculation but I would guess that Michelle loves being adored now by being the Queen Bee. If you read her college thesis it’s fairly undistinguished except for the race consciousness evident throughout.

    This is a woman who was not happy. Who sees the world through a prism of race and is angry. Heck, I bet she wasn’t even happy when Obama got her employer a million dollar earmark and her administrator position a corresponding raise to 300K.

    Also, she’s been fairly vocal that he hasn’t been around a lot. The rumor was that he had a little chippy but she’s now hiding out in the Carib.

    Saw a picture of her and she is thin, athletic looking and most definitely is not sporting a big ass like Michelle.

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  60. on February 9, 2009 at 5:31 pm T. AKA Ricky Raw

    Makes you wonder why she’s so ‘happy’ with him. Why is she?

    Have you seen her face? For chicks like that, a high functioning beta or lesser alpha is the best they can do and still a step up for them. No alpha with real options would be with her. No matter what you can say about Barack, no one except the most delusional feminist can deny that she got the better end of that deal. I may not like him, but I can admit that he’s ambitious, charismatic and way better looking than she is. His mistake was in settling down too early, probably when he was at peak beta status, before he could fully assess and appreciate what his pussy options would be in life. He could have a Scarlett Johannsen or Beyonce level first lady instead if he knew better.

    Also, regardless of whether Obama was truly alpha when he started his campaign or not, I don’t think it’s possible to survive one term as President without finding your inner alpha real quickly. By the end of his four years, whether he turns out to be competent or not, he will emerge as a bona fide alpha.

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  61. on February 9, 2009 at 5:31 pm lurker

    RW, agreed. Iranand Russia smell blood. Ahmadinijad and Putin are thrilled that we fell for their Everyone-hates-america-because-of-bush/republicans b.s. I’m not sure Chavez is, mostly because he’s crazy; he’s already attacked Obama when the just coddling him would make Harry Belafonte all weepy.

    I’m seriously looking at those survivalist websites. Where we are headed is not good.

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  62. on February 9, 2009 at 5:35 pm lurker

    T. AKA Ricky Raw:

    “I don’t think it’s possible to survive one term as President without finding your inner alpha real quickly. By the end of his four years, whether he turns out to be competent or not, he will emerge as a bona fide alpha.”

    —as much as I hate Obama and yet wish this to be true:

    Jimmy Carter.

    That is all. prepare the bunkers!

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  63. on February 9, 2009 at 5:43 pm T. AKA Ricky Raw

    Jimmy Carter was horribly incompetent, but I studied up on him recently because I wanted to see the similarities between him and Obama. Surprisingly, I learned that as incompetent as he was, Jimmy Carter was also surprisingly alpha, despite his feckless beta public image. In fact, part of his downfall was that he was probably too alpha to the point where he couldn’t pick his battles correctly, especially when it came to dealing with his Congress, he would try to strongarm and try to steamroll them instead of trying to cooperate with them or compromise. Even though Ronald Reagan was very alpha with Gorbachev and the Russians, with his Congress he would use a lot of charm, compromise and cooperation to win them over to his ideas.

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  64. on February 9, 2009 at 5:48 pm lurker

    Well, T. AkA Ricky Raw, one of Carter’s main problems was inability to appear alpha in public. The American electorate saw him as a sniveling beta, even if your assessment is true. And I would argue that many of his actions—negotiation with Irianian hostage situation, for example, or sitting on the floor while parading people in to lecture him on how to fix the malaise—bespoke of betaness.

    I don’t see much evidence of alphaness; perhaps you are right, especially with Congress, but he had a Democratic congress then, and sweep of the anti-watergate momentum.

    But Carter’s actions seem very beta to me. And to the American people. As Ronald Reagan lectured famously, “there you go again.”

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  65. on February 9, 2009 at 5:49 pm gig

    replace would by wouldn´t in the second paragraph

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  66. on February 9, 2009 at 5:50 pm lurker

    “Michelle is much more presidential than any first lady I can remember in America.”

    –wtf does THAT mean? She looks like a Klingon dominatrix.

    “A Beyonce or Scarlet Johansen (who is white !!!!) would join Obama´s cause with the same passion of Michelle”

    –they would join because they’re hollywood sluts. please. And ScarJo is lumpy.

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  67. on February 9, 2009 at 5:57 pm cptnapalm

    “A majority of men are always more concerned about security issues than women.
    Women always go touchy-feely.”

    Women are concerned about security, but in the personal rather than national sense. They are touchy feely about things which they have no direct fear (all those poor illegal immigrants, who live no where near her or the black folk, who normally will live as far away from her as the SWPL gal could feasibly get) but, anything about which they have personal anxiety, such as they get from men (“he could be a rapist!”) or money matters (“I needed those forty pairs of shoes!”) it is all “Protect me!” and “Give me money!”

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  68. on February 9, 2009 at 6:00 pm Chuck

    Lurker,

    “The president also gives a lot of these whores to have the “black male fantasy” they long secretly wanted but were too afraid to have out loud.”

    Your post made me think more into the hypocrisy of women in our country. Plenty of women in my generation think Obama is attractive. My mom, a lifelong Democrat, thought Bill Clinton was good-looking. In both cases, I have to wonder wtf? Clinton was a bloated marshmallow and Obama has an average physique, big ears, and grey teeth.

    I’m completely straight but am able to reasonably judge what women find physically attractive in men. To me, Bush is the better physical specimen with more symmetrical features. On main street, without their political clout, I guarantee you Bush could pull more women, but I never once heard any women talk about his attractiveness.

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  69. on February 9, 2009 at 6:04 pm Lance

    I’m completely straight but am able to reasonably judge what women find physically attractive in men. To me, Bush is the better physical specimen with more symmetrical features. On main street, without their political clout, I guarantee you Bush could pull more women, but I never once heard any women talk about his attractiveness.

    men are attracted to looks, and women are attracted to status. why complain about it? if it weren’t the case, game wouldn’t work.

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  70. on February 9, 2009 at 6:07 pm Chuck

    “Ahmadinijad (sp) and Putin are thrilled that we fell for their Everyone-hates-america-because-of-bush/republicans b.s.”

    I’m not so sure this is true. Bush was Iran and Russia’s best friend in the sense his Presidency created an atmosphere, rightly or wrongly, that incubated a critical look at the U.S. Now that Obama has taken office, the hatred towards the U.S. has lost its edge. Putin and Ahmadinejad are now pitted against a stronger U.S., at least in terms of international sentiment.

    Much of Putin, Ahmadinejad, and Kim Jong Il’s posturing were attempts to take advantage of Bush’s poor position in the eyes of the rest of the world. My belief is that these antics won’t play as well as they had previously. Now it’s up to Obama to take advantage of his political power and force these guys into a corner.

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  71. on February 9, 2009 at 6:09 pm Chuck

    Lance,

    Who’s complaining? Bush had the same status as Clinton and Obama, plus better looks, yet there was very little reference to his attractiveness to women. This is because liberal women are more whorish than conservative ones.

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  72. on February 9, 2009 at 6:18 pm chic noir

    JMAnd anyway, my main point was just to say that the majority of ALL Americans–men and women–are grossly uniformed, intellectually uninterested ciphers with useless, atrophied left brains who don’t deserve to take any part in deciding the fate of the world vis-a-vis a purely theatrical political process that awards the man who can best manipulate the collective id.
    Agreed!

    Am I the only one who noticed how this country’s entertainment media slipped in the last 6 years? Before Bush II’s election, there were some decent shows on TV. Where are the Cosby, Family Matters and Seinfeld type sitcoms? Three & The Half Men is pure trash. You don’t have to believe in conspiracy theories to know that something weird has happened to American PoP culture. Why is Paris Hilton’s new haircut considered prime time news? Why are American women being socialized to believe that it is okay to make sex tapes, playing dumb, giving bj to random men, drinking 5 bucks a cup coffee( daily) , purchasing 2k handbags &1k shoes(on credit no less), and starving one’s self.
    Like anyone else here, I have a big problem with how crime ridden poor and esp poor Black neighborhoods are. However, I don’t like the undercurrent of hate going on here.

    I think as Obama pushes his economic reforms through he will have some time to devote to the moral and cultural decline of America. Bill Cosby, Stanley Couch and the like will start speaking out about the need for change amongst lower class Blk Americans. Obama will join the talks and maybe encourage big city mayors to use NYC Rudy Giuliani type reforms to push crime down in American cities.

    Sadly, many people are going to lose their jobs because the American economy has to retract to a sustainable level. In the last few years we’ve had artificial growth fuelled by credit cards and people ripping the equity out of their homes to buy dumb shit and pay down credit cards. Some of those people charged more stuff on the very same credits cars after they paid down their balance. Americans should move away from purchasing expensive things for status purposes. If you like LV fine, purchase the handbag because you like it, not to impress your friends. Same rule applies to colleges and universities. Got to a school you can afford. SMH, Please don’t pay 50k for a BA from a private college and complain about the massive amount of debt you must pay back.

    @ Rick- I read about 600 million of stimulus being used to replace government vehicles. Are those vehicles being replaced with cars from American makers like Ford? I hope so. The 600 million would help the big three as well as ensure that American auto workers can continue to work a little while longer. What are they going to do with the old vehicles? It would be nice if the older vehicles were sold to poor, working class and middle class people for a couple of thousand cash or with 2-4% interest for those who will pay using an installment plan.

    Quick Question: I want honest answers okay! How inspires more fear the Bernie Madoffs or the common street thug? Discuss why you fear each and for what reasons.

    One last thing: BUY AMERICAN GUYS! AMERICAN APPREAL YES CHEAP SHIRTS FROM CHINA NO

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  73. on February 9, 2009 at 6:24 pm lurker

    Chuck:

    “Now that Obama has taken office, the hatred towards the U.S. has lost its edge.”

    –definitely disagree. Anti-U.S. sentiment has long been dormant in Western Europe since WW2–witness any James Bond movie/spy movie. Americans are painted as brash, rude, war-mongering, and stupid in many of these. It is the superior british in the James bond movies who are the “best” because they do “cloak and dagger” work rather than face to face arguing.

    However, the West tolerated the U.S. because it knew the U.S. was the only real check against Russia. Europe had no military power following WW2, and because the Americans were willing to spend on military, that left western europe free to play both sides (allied with U.S., but more friendly with russia than we were) and spend its money on such brilliant ideas as National healthcare (sarcasm) and losing their empires.

    However, following the fall of the Berlin Wall, anti-American sentiment grew; there was no longer any need for a powerful U.S. without Russia around. So it became open cultural warfare against the U.S. I witnessed this as a teenager in the 90s–every year mroe spitballs came flying, unannounced, from Western Europeans.

    Those people who think Bush created this are wrong; he became a focal point of it due to a war Europe would never wage because they are mainly isolationist pacifists who don’t like spending their resources outside their own lands.

    “Putin and Ahmadinejad are now pitted against a stronger U.S., at least in terms of international sentiment.”

    —Sorry Chuck. Putin and Ahmadinejad both know now Europe will do nothing to stop them, and that they will not even support the U.S. when it does something. Obama just gives them a weak beta without any experience or willingness to fight back as their opponent. Cripes.

    “Much of Putin, Ahmadinejad, and Kim Jong Il’s posturing were attempts to take advantage of Bush’s poor position in the eyes of the rest of the world.”

    —not really. the posturing was due to the realization that NATO and the UN would not be supporting any international actions. Iraq proved the isolationist mentalities of Western European cowards. It didn’t change when The Messiah got elected.

    “Now that Obama has taken office, the hatred towards the U.S. has lost its edge.”

    —The momentary lapse in U.S hatred will subside and grow again. Cultural dominance, which the US has in spades, terrifies western europe more than immigration overflow or suicide bombers.

    “My belief is that these antics won’t play as well as they had previously.”

    —Must disagree. Obama spent his first international interview bending over and offering his anus to the Islamic world. Chavez is already insulting him. Obama will take it poorly for us all.

    “Now it’s up to Obama to take advantage of his political power and force these guys into a corner.”

    –with what? He’s already slipped once he’ll take nukes off the table. Putin could manipulate bush because by the time Bush was in his second term Putin knew he was involved in another war and had no allies helping him. Iran knew the UN would never stop them because the UN refused any hand in Iraq and condemns the U.S. Chavez knows he can rally anti-american commies to his cause and buddy up with France.

    Obama’s not even a paper tiger. He’s a paper lamb.m

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  74. on February 9, 2009 at 6:24 pm chic noir

    Whiskey saidWomen generally hate that, and prefer violent dangerous men who abuse them. Rescuing women is particularly beta, women will despise any man who does it, so can expect far less of it as time goes on.
    I don’t believe this for a minute. The sick bar chics with daddy issues sure. In my book chivalry is not dead Whiskey. I’ve heard women complain about a group of men doing nothing while a woman was assaulted by a man.

    If I didn’t know any better I would think PA is an American:)

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  75. on February 9, 2009 at 6:31 pm chic noir

    Lets talk about the stimulus bill.

    Do any of you agree with the extension of Cobra & unemployment? What about the elimination of unemployment taxes? What would you like to have seen added to the bill if you had a say?

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  76. on February 9, 2009 at 6:35 pm cptnapalm

    boyinthebubble: Feminists do not love betas. Should probably delete the “Beta loving” bit.

    SWPL is sufficient in itself; mention of they being Obama voters is redundant.

    I would probably make proximity a negative value, as the most diversity loving groups tend to live as far away as they can get from the groups they so dearly love, either by moving or by making their area difficult for the diversifiers to afford.

    I don’t know HBD, I’m afraid.

    No secret handshake needed. Just a gun, a smile and the following phase: “Leave me alone and I’ll leave you alone.” That should mostly suffice.

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  77. on February 9, 2009 at 6:39 pm RP in TX

    Putin and Ahmadinejad are in for a world of hurt. The collapse of the oil market will starve them for funds. They can talk a big game all they want, but no money – no guns.

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  78. on February 9, 2009 at 6:39 pm Ba1anced-A Beta with Alpha Tendencies

    I would like to ask the question….what would make a quintessential Alpha president? I get the feeling that there is alot of dissapointment in our leaders because they seem “balless” to so many. Would a president be more Alpha if he shouted down any opposition like Christian Bale did to that dude on his set (http://www.aolcdn.com/tmz_audio/020209_christianbale.mp3) . Would he put out hits on major world leaders that declined his advances in power? Do we need a president who could collectively tell congress to “SHUT THE FUCK UP”?

    I think that wouldn’t be necessarily Alpha, but rather Thug Mentality. The only difference would be that the thug is in a tailored suit. And did we not just have 8 years of thuggery? Someone rightly pointed out that the modern thug mentality is more like feminine emotional tantrums, backed up by male strength and rage. That is why people get shot over stupid shit like “being a hater”. But Please, let us discuss the perfect Alpha president…so that we can have a frame of reference.

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  79. on February 9, 2009 at 6:39 pm JerrDogg

    I saw some article somewhere saying that Obama’s mother-in-law was going to live in the white house at the insistence of Michelle. If this is true then:

    Obama = Wussy betafied man

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  80. on February 9, 2009 at 6:50 pm chic noir

    RW At the moment, they are fighting to put in an amendment in the pork bill to make employers check on hires for citizenship status. It’s called E-verify and it’s a simple efficient system.

    RW, E-verify is very important. It must go in with the stimulus package. Those jobs must go to Americans. We can’t afford to subsidize the rest of the world right now. The senators who vote against it should have their name placed on a list so WE can give them hell about it.

    @JerrDogg- Michelle’s mother is coming to the White House to help take care of her grand children. She will be taking on the role of a nanny. It’s fairly common occurrence amongst Black people and even some Whites in parts of this country. It’s far safer and cheaper than an outside provider or daycare.

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  81. on February 9, 2009 at 6:51 pm sestamibi

    Beta Guy said:

    “The downfall was the women’s vote. A majority of men are always more concerned about security issues than women.
    Women always go touchy-feely. You can’t do that on this planet and survive.”

    That is true, but needs some clarification. What “security” means to men is physical safety–one should be able to walk down any street, any time, anywhere, without being attacked or accosted. What “security” means to cunt is that government’s purpose is to guarantee that your life will suffer no reverses, ever. Life must be all bliss, all the time. Government must pay for your kid or abortion, and protect your precious widdle feewing from ever being hurt.

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  82. on February 9, 2009 at 6:52 pm chic noir

    RP in TX
    Putin and Ahmadinejad are in for a world of hurt. The collapse of the oil market will starve them for funds. They can talk a big game all they want, but no money – no guns.

    They already are. Putin is trying to hold off social unrest in Russia because of the collapse of the oil market.

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  83. on February 9, 2009 at 6:56 pm Chuck

    “Those people who think Bush created this are wrong; he became a focal point of it due to a war Europe would never wage because they are mainly isolationist pacifists who don’t like spending their resources outside their own lands. ”

    I don’t think Bush created this, but it’s interesting that Bush and Putin were such good friends until the Iraq War became such a unmitigated disaster. In the last few years Putin has taken advantage of Bush’s weakness in order to incur more power in Russia. A U.S. at the nadir of its unpopularity has created an environment in which Putin feels able to do this.

    Regardless, Putin and Ahmadinejad don’t have the U.S. to point to as the world’s dictator to rally against, as much as they did when Bush was in power. Rightly or wrongly, these guys have less of a leg to stand on now in the eyes of the rest of the world.

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  84. on February 9, 2009 at 6:57 pm sestamibi

    Oops. Looks like capt. napalm beat me to it.

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  85. on February 9, 2009 at 7:04 pm jaakkeli

    @JerrDogg- Michelle’s mother is coming to the White House to help take care of her grand children. She will be taking on the role of a nanny. It’s fairly common occurrence amongst Black people and even some Whites in parts of this country. It’s far safer and cheaper than an outside provider or daycare.

    And much more of a necessity when your babies don’t have a father. (ducks)

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  86. on February 9, 2009 at 7:05 pm sestamibi

    boyinthebubble:

    Hey, if DA posts here regularly . . .

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  87. on February 9, 2009 at 7:05 pm lurker

    “I don’t think Bush created this, but it’s interesting that Bush and Putin were such good friends until the Iraq War became such a unmitigated disaster.”

    —2 things wrong with that.

    1) Iraq war is not an unmitigated disaster. In case anyone was paying attention—-*we won the war in Iraq.* Period. Full stop.

    2) Putin and Bush were less “friends” than wary opponents who respected each other. Bush’s personality is to associate a rival as a friend. Bush had at least equality simply because Putin knew the score: at that point, Bush would’ve fought the Russian Bear if provoked enough.

    “In the last few years Putin has taken advantage of Bush’s weakness in order to incur more power in Russia.”

    –True enough. But Bush’sw eakness stems from putin’s recongizing that Western Europe would never support any force against any nation. With the U.S. pre-occupied in Iraq and no one backing them up, Putin was free to act how he wanted.

    “A U.S. at the nadir of its unpopularity has created an environment in which Putin feels able to do this.”

    —No. the realization that Western Europe is in full-tilt Neville Chamberlain mode has.

    “Regardless, Putin and Ahmadinejad don’t have the U.S. to point to as the world’s dictator to rally against, as much as they did when Bush was in power. ”

    —Wrong. The U.S-as-dictator was there before Iraq/Afghanistan and will be there long after they are gone–assuming we’re not blown to smithereens by Islamacists/N. Korea before then. See South Park’s post-Sept. 11th episode for that info. America is hated because America is culturally dominant; the war in Iraq is a red herring that many young people are tragically falling for.

    “Rightly or wrongly, these guys have less of a leg to stand on now in the eyes of the rest of the world.”

    –Couldn’t disagree more. There’s is all about who would stand up to them. Only the U.S. would. Now, no one will. What is more emboldening?

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  88. on February 9, 2009 at 7:06 pm Glengarry Glenpoon

    “BUY AMERICAN GUYS! AMERICAN APPAREL YES”

    By God and country, I’ll second that!

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  89. on February 9, 2009 at 7:11 pm Glengarry Glenpoon

    Last time around, after that unfortunate incident … weren’t there lots of columnists (mostly female) who stood up to be counted among those who would gladly, no proudly, blow Clinton?

    It’s good to be the king of the mommy party.

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  90. on February 9, 2009 at 7:12 pm JerrDogg

    @chic

    But how can Obama possibly have “Bimbo” eruptions like Clinton did in the Oral Office if his MITL could walk in on him? He can afford nanny’s for the kids.

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  91. on February 9, 2009 at 7:14 pm chic noir

    “A Beyonce or Scarlet Johansen (who is white !!!!) would join Obama´s cause with the same passion of Michelle”

    lurker they would join because they’re hollywood sluts. please. And ScarJo is lumpy.
    Maybe ScarJo but certainly not Beyonce. The only man she has had is JayZ.

    What do you mean lumpy? ScarJo has a nice M.Monroe figure.

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  92. on February 9, 2009 at 7:20 pm chic noir

    jaakkeliAnd much more of a necessity when your babies don’t have a father. (ducks)

    True but most men don’t like to babysit children anyway. Even amongst men who were laid off, most don’t babysit or do much housework. To be honest, I think most Americans don’t care for children much anymore. Oh sure, we have the glamorization of children in America but I don’t think most people truly like them. I believe the inability to properly discipline children has turned many people off. The things teenagers and tweens can get away with saying and doing to their parents today is vastly different from what children could get away with during Michael Blowhard’s childhood.

    BTW, fellas no one reads Cosmo anymore.

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  93. on February 9, 2009 at 7:21 pm jaakkeli

    Regardless, Putin and Ahmadinejad don’t have the U.S. to point to as the world’s dictator to rally against, as much as they did when Bush was in power. Rightly or wrongly, these guys have less of a leg to stand on now in the eyes of the rest of the world.

    They might actually have MORE of a leg to stand on: an apologetic US president who will AGREE with that worldview. If Obama really does believe it, he can’t do anything, since he’ll be forced on the defensive with every move. It’ll be “I’m not an imperialist, but come on guys, I think it’s really unfair if…” and the world will laugh at him.

    Iran already smells blood. Look at how they’re announcing THEIR demands before THEY agree to respect the US.

    Apologetic, nice people are always judged MORE harshly than unapologetically awful people. Think of, say, school: the ADHD geek would get a compliment from the teacher if he ever managed to shut up for a whole lecture, the really quiet nice girl would get horrified looks if she was caught similarily misbehaving once a year. If Obama tries to pull that “One of the Good Americans That Hated Bush” act, there’ll be an anti-American rally after the slightest sign of America trying to assert itself.

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  94. on February 9, 2009 at 7:21 pm Tood

    This superb and hilarious picturee describes why right-wing women are so much better looking that left-wing Umber Hulks*.

    *In fairness, some are Shambing Mounds and Devil Swines, rather than Umber Hulks.

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  95. on February 9, 2009 at 7:22 pm Tood

    How on Earth can Barack spoon Michelle, given the grotesque size and shape of her behind?

    I would be terrified of spooning such an elephantine ass.

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  96. on February 9, 2009 at 7:26 pm jaakkeli

    Michelle Obama doesn’t actually look bad at all for a mid-forties woman. I’d do her.

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  97. on February 9, 2009 at 7:26 pm Firepower

    Q: Way to be available, guys.
    What are we paying you for, again?

    A: Maintaining order on The Mall as worship commences.

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  98. on February 9, 2009 at 7:29 pm Chuck

    “*we won the war in Iraq.* ”

    By whose measure? If we had fully won the war why hadn’t Bush and Co. pull out? Obviously they didn’t feel we have won the war. If he does believe that then he’s unneccesarily putting American soldiers in harm’s way. So which is it Lurker?

    “But Bush’sw eakness stems from putin’s recongizing that Western Europe would never support any force against any nation.”

    Can you deny that Western Europe is more on the U.S.’s page than it was with Bush? Bush was wrongly overcriticized by Europeans, but that’s a fact he had to deal with. He didn’t. They hated him. Obama on the other had at least has the ear and support of Europe. This can do nothing except weaken Putin’s position.

    “No. the realization that Western Europe is in full-tilt Neville Chamberlain mode has.”

    Irrelevant since Western Europe’s attitude towards Russia and Iran has certainly not improved since Obama was elected. Western Europe’s stance against these two countries has been static in this whole mess, while the world’s view of the U.S. has been THE dynamic variable. If the U.S. is viewed favorably by the rest of the world it enhances our ability to deter their military activity. Obama at least has the ear of Europe, whereas nobody listened to Bush or his administration because of the already entrenched negative attitude against him.

    “–Couldn’t disagree more. There’s is all about who would stand up to them. Only the U.S. would. Now, no one will. What is more emboldening?”

    Did I miss something? Somehow I don’t remember Bush ever standing up against Russia or Iran. Putin has been engaged in a mass purge of any dissenting voice while rigging the Parliament in order to strengthen his power. What the FUCK did Bush do about that? Not shit is the correct answer. Now, all else being equal (meaning I’m not fully confident that Obama would ever engage in any hardcore reprimand for this activity) the U.S. at least has some sympathetic parties at the table. Putin’s power is thereby decreased, assuming the U.S. still abhors Putin’s vision of Russia.

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  99. on February 9, 2009 at 7:30 pm Tood

    “Michelle Obama doesn’t actually look bad at all for a mid-forties woman. I’d do her.”

    She is 6 feet tall, weighs 180, and has a very big ass. Her *skin* is good, but that is all.

    I would rather do 55 year old Cindy McCain than 45-year old Michelle Obama. Even 60 year old Laura Bush was do-able up to age 55.

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  100. on February 9, 2009 at 7:32 pm Chuck

    “How on Earth can Barack spoon Michelle, given the grotesque size and shape of her behind?”

    I’m almost certain that Michelle is the outside spoon.

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  101. on February 9, 2009 at 7:32 pm Tood

    We totally won the War in Iraq, as per these quantifiable metrics.

    Those who insist that the war is still lost have deeply invested in an outcome of failure, and should be ashamed of themselves. I knew leftists were opposed to Democracy, but that is taking it too far.

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  102. on February 9, 2009 at 7:32 pm Tood

    I’m almost certain that Michelle is the outside spoon.

    You have a point there.

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  103. on February 9, 2009 at 7:33 pm chic noir

    @Tood- most of the VS & Sports Illustrated models are 5’11 like Michelle sweetie. She wears a size 8 which is hell of a lot smaller than the average American woman(14-16). BTW if you don’t like tall women stay far away from the Netherlands(5’9 average).

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  104. on February 9, 2009 at 7:33 pm lurker

    “The only man she has had is JayZ.”

    —So she spreads ehr legs for an ugly dick of a man who talks about beating women, doing drugs, shooting cops, and being a dreg on society?

    And you think she’s not a whore?

    Women.

    Sure, Beyonce has a nice figure. Plastic surgery and photshop work wonders.

    “What do you mean lumpy?”
    —lumpy bitch. You sleep with her.

    “ScarJo has a nice M.Monroe figure.”

    –If M.M. had been built like the stay puff man with boobs, sure.

    That lumpy talentless bitch pisses me off. Crapyp acting, not hot at all. Meanwhile, Alicia Silverstone has no career. Gottdamit anyway.

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  105. on February 9, 2009 at 7:34 pm chic noir

    @tood- a big booty is good as long as it’s firm and smooth. A woman with a flat ass is a man with a long back.

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  106. on February 9, 2009 at 7:34 pm Tood

    If we had fully won the war why hadn’t Bush and Co. pull out?

    For the same reason the US has still not pulled out of Germany and Japan (63 years), South Korea (55 years), Bosnia (12 years), etc.

    Victory can happen years before pullout. By your measure, we still have not won WW2.

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  107. on February 9, 2009 at 7:36 pm Tood

    “BTW if you don’t like tall women stay far away from the Netherlands(5′9 average).”

    I like tall, thin women. I don’t like a grotesque ass. Outside of a rare few actresses and models (quite a few of whom are half white), I don’t find black woman to be attractive.

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  108. on February 9, 2009 at 7:37 pm Tood

    @tood- a big booty is good as long as it’s firm and smooth.

    Very rare outside of television (Halle Berry, Beyonce, a younger Vivica Fox). In real life, I have hardly ever seen an attractive black woman.

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  109. on February 9, 2009 at 7:38 pm lurker

    “I would rather do 55 year old Cindy McCain than 45-year old Michelle Obama. Even 60 year old Laura Bush was do-able up to age 55.”

    Michelle Obama will be praised by the sistas for being a “Strong” woman and the gays for being “fierce.” Which means she’ll dress her Klingon frame badly and look like the overgrown harpy she is. Memo to the Klingon: red is not your color.

    The only semi-decent first lady I’ve ever seen was Jackie O, and she wasn’t that great, even though boomers think she was *so* hot. I might have done Abigail Adams, but I don’t have decent photos of her. Laura Linney made a nice older milf in the movie, so I’ll pretend its her.

    Cindy McCain would have been the only one I would have done while her husband was in office. Biden might have a good one, but he’s a moron and hack and V.P., so there.

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  110. on February 9, 2009 at 7:38 pm jaakkeli

    She is 6 feet tall,

    Yeah, that might bother you… STUMP

    weighs 180,

    I wish I did.

    and has a very big ass.

    Very big… mmm… very big…

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  111. on February 9, 2009 at 7:39 pm chic noir

    lurker So she spreads ehr legs for an ugly dick of a man who talks about beating women, doing drugs, shooting cops, and being a dreg on society?

    But she has only been with one man. would you rather she had been around the block like Sienna Miller? I’m not a Jay Z fan, I much prefer Lupe Fiasco, Kayne and Common. Jay Z is from the Joe Kennedy school of the come up. Notice how he raps about the type of stuff but bar one incident, has not been in the news for thugury or on shows like cribs(showoff). Jay Z has aspirations to be in the Our Type Of People by Otis Graham Black elite.

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  112. on February 9, 2009 at 7:39 pm lurker

    ” A woman with a flat ass is a man with a long back.”

    I love when black women try to defend their being fat with this gem. Memo to you: no one but desperate chubby chasers like fat asses. Or do you wonder why Paris Hilton is more famous than Kim Kardashian?

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  113. on February 9, 2009 at 7:43 pm lurker

    Michelle Obama is like that nightmare you have after 12 Irish Carbombs.

    Thank goodness for the Bush twins, or we would’ve never had hot ass in the white house in my lifetime.

    Conservative women: hotter, not as easy.

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  114. on February 9, 2009 at 7:44 pm chic noir

    @Tood- We all have our tastes Tood so no beef with me on that. Vivca, Beyonce or Vanessa Williams are not half-white and a round booty is nice. It lets you know you are looking at a woman from behind. Most Black men don’t have very round butts and it makes clothes look pretty good. If you like tall women, why do you keep riding Michelle for being tall?

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  115. on February 9, 2009 at 7:47 pm lurker

    “But she has only been with one man. would you rather she had been around the block like Sienna Miller?”

    —lol, right, I’m sure she’s only been with “one man.” Also, she’s never done cocaine or had plastic surgery.

    There’s more kool-aid in the fridge, fattie.

    “I’m not a Jay Z fan, I much prefer Lupe Fiasco, Kayne and Common. Jay Z is from the Joe Kennedy school of the come up.”

    —blah blah blah here’s a bunch of meaninglyess pop stars I like for no reason.

    “Notice how he raps about the type of stuff but bar one incident, has not been in the news for thugury or on shows like cribs(showoff).”

    —–Translation: he promotes being a shitstain but hasn’t gotten caught…except once. Because telling people to act like a piece of shit makes him noble.

    “Jay Z has aspirations to be a wealthy meaningless pop star who screws a useless poptart whore.”

    —FTFY, chubby.

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  116. on February 9, 2009 at 7:51 pm RW

    Chic Noir,
    Not to get to offtrack but I don’t think the E-verify amendment is going to be inserted into the pork bill. In fact I do recall the former Clinton Treasury guy actually saying that construction jobs shouldn’t go to white men. Oddly, there wasn’t much discussion about that comment. But that’s how the media rolls.

    So unfortunately, between the billions for community, re: ACORN, both voter fraud and hiring of cheap illegal alien labor is rewarded in this bill.

    And both portend bad things for our future.

    Now about Michelle and booty. I tend to prefer the more slender/athletic figure with some justice there but to each his own.

    And when Michelle is spooning Obama, I’m sure she’s happy.

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  117. on February 9, 2009 at 7:52 pm chic noir

    on February 9, 2009 at 7:39 pm lurker
    ” A woman with a flat ass is a man with a long back.”

    @Tood- most of the VS & Sports Illustrated models are 5’11 like Michelle sweetie. She wears a size 8 which is hell of a lot smaller than the average American woman(14-16). BTW if you don’t like tall women stay far away from the Netherlands.

    I love when black women try to defend their being fat with this gem. Memo to you: no one but desperate chubby chasers like fat asses.
    So Naomi Campbell and Tyra Banks(in her day) were fat? I have a round ass and I’m far from fat. What about women with hour glass figures like Betty Paige, Rachel Welsh, Ursula Andreas, M. Monroe, Beyonce, the red head from Mad Men were they fat?

    It’s true that certain ethnic groups have round butt like Jewish women as well as Greeks and Italians. Some Black ethnic groups do and others do not.

    Or do you wonder why Paris Hilton is more famous than Kim Kardashian?
    Well Paris made her sex tape first. Guess which of the two is a more of a beauty amongst Blacks and Hispanics? Different people have different tastes. I prefer the Rachel Welsh, Ursula Andreas, and Betty Paige look. Yet at the same time I like the tall and lean look for fashion.

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  118. on February 9, 2009 at 7:52 pm lurker

    Michelle bought a red white and blue strap on especially for barry.

    We’re screwed.

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  119. on February 9, 2009 at 7:57 pm Tood

    chic noir,

    Post a link of a picture of your ass in a swimsuit.

    The diverse tastes of the men here will be informative for all of us to learn more about the subject.

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  120. on February 9, 2009 at 7:57 pm lurker

    “Guess which of the two is a more of a beauty amongst Blacks and Hispanics?”

    —the slut who can only get black guys to want to screw her.

    “were they fat?”

    —–Trying to compare some fat-assed typical black girl with mdoels from the past is idiotic. Booty is not hourglass–it’s fat. Try to keep up.

    “It’s true that certain ethnic groups have round butt like Jewish women as well as Greeks and Italians. Some Black ethnic groups do and others do not.”

    –Thanks for the eugenics lesson, Hitler.

    ” Different people have different tastes. ”

    –there are only so many fattie fuckers, babe. Start looking!

    “I have a round ass and I’m far from fat.”

    —And I have a billion dollars, but I’m not rich. Seriously, keep deluding yourself all you want, honey. There’s a reason their not banging donw your door.

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  121. on February 9, 2009 at 8:01 pm chic noir

    RW
    Not to get to offtrack No we needed this break but I don’t think the E-verify amendment is going to be inserted into the pork bill. In fact I do recall the former Clinton Treasury guy actually saying that construction jobs shouldn’t go to white men. Oddly, there wasn’t much discussion about that comment. But that’s how the media rolls

    RW, I wonder if the guy misspoke. There is no way some of those jobs won’t go to White men because besides Hispanics-Americans and Black Americans, they are the only other group who work construction in large numbers. I don’t see many Asian men doing construction work and we know that very few women of any race work in construction. The construction jobs are suppose to put money in the pockets of Americans so they can spend(most importantly), pay off debt, and start saving. Sending the money to various South Americas countries and the Caribbean will not get the American economy going again.

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  122. on February 9, 2009 at 8:04 pm chic noir

    Tood
    chic noir,

    Post a link of a picture of your ass in a swimsuit.

    The diverse tastes of the men here will be informative for all of us to learn more about the subject,/i>

    Darling you must be new here. Once upon a time, I posted my pic(gym clothes) . The men didn’t seem to have a problem with the way I look. Yet I know I’m not the cat’s meow for everyone.

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  123. on February 9, 2009 at 8:06 pm chic noir

    lurkerTrying to compare some fat-assed typical black girl with mdoels from the past is idiotic. Booty is not hourglass–it’s fat. Try to keep up
    Typically, hourglass and booty go hand in hand darling.

    There’s a reason their not banging donw your door.
    Actually they are, I just don’t want the attention. I’m not much of a people person. Now lets comment on important stuff- the stimulus bill.

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  124. on February 9, 2009 at 8:12 pm RW

    Chic Noir

    Well I think it was the little runt Rubin who made that stupid comment. But really to the larger point, if E-verify is not part of the pork bill it will mean just another angle of how it sticks it up the rear of Americans. Because if an employer can hire cheaper illegal alien labor for construction with no safeguard, then it will happen.

    For places like New Orleans and the region impacted by Katrina, it’s particularly detrimental on all counts.

    So when someone does go driving past those empty schools in Milwaukee, you’ll be hearing a lot of Spanish is my guess. And those new buildings will remain empty of students a year after completion as that city is contracting on school enrollment.

    The more you look at the “stimulus” the worse it gets. Even the CBO came out with its analysis stating its going to be more harmful in the long run.
    And that’s pretty strong coming from the CBO.

    At best, this beast is going to just drain strength from the country like festering pus.

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  125. on February 9, 2009 at 8:15 pm Tood

    Darling you must be new here. Once upon a time, I posted my pic(gym clothes) . The men didn’t seem to have a problem with the way I look. Yet I know I’m not the cat’s meow for everyone.

    I am new. So why can’t you post pics of your ass? You don’t have to show your face, and can thus remain anonymous.

    At any rate, put up the link that you posted here previously.

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  126. on February 9, 2009 at 8:23 pm jaakkeli

    If she’s more scared now, you can all take it as evidence that the forum has attracted some true alpha males.

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  127. on February 9, 2009 at 8:29 pm T. AKA Ricky Raw

    Okay Lurker, you’re talking crazy talk now. Alicia Silverstone has had worse weight problems than ScarJo ever had, especially around the time of Batman and Robin movie, and talks with that borderline retard lisp and her mouth is ridiculously crooked and twisted when she speaks. It’s like a combination of two Sylvesters, Sly Stallone from Rocky and Sylvester the Cat from Looney Tunes. She really sounds and looks about as close as you can mentally be to being retarded without actually qualifying for an official retard diagnosis. Once she starts talking and that mouth contorts and twists and that tongue starts touching her teeth and she starts lisping like Mike Tyson, I get immediately turned off. Why an actress wouldn’t get speech training to get rid of a lisp is beyond me.

    Also, ScarJo’s body is pretty similar to Marilyn Monroe’s and both Monroe and ScarJo have never had the weight problems onscreen Silverstone has had. She even had a gut in Batman and Robin. The whole reason she fell off as a sex symbol is her weight fluctuations, she only started keeping weight off consistently recently after going vegan.

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  128. on February 9, 2009 at 8:40 pm lurker

    Ricky Raw, are you nuts? Go see clueless and the Crush. Bitch is smokin…..Those weight problems pale in comparison to that lumpy mass of ugly face we call scarjo.

    That twisted mouth just beans the bjs would be so much more intriguing. Plus–Jewish girl=best bjs. I’m a goyim and I believe that.

    “Scarjo really sounds and looks about as close as you can mentally be to being retarded without actually qualifying for an official retard diagnosis.”

    —FTFY

    No speech impediment at all. You’re imagining things.

    Scarjo went thin recently becauase of anorexia. Veganism is just the latest hollywood excuse for not eating–“Oh, i can’t eat that, I’m a vegan.”

    Scarjo is the fat slut with the decent face and brains of a cow you settle for if you’re hard up late at night. And then regret the clingy retarded bitch the next day.

    Silverstone. Crazy video. need I say more?

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  129. on February 9, 2009 at 8:50 pm Wtf, Ducks?

    Quick Question: I want honest answers okay! How inspires more fear the Bernie Madoffs or the common street thug? Discuss why you fear each and for what reasons.–Chic

    Fearing the latter is for the obvious reason that they are indifferent towards their future state and so will think nothing of slaying someone on any provocation. The insidious Bernie Madoff has wrought unprecedented financial chaos and his breed should indeed inspire fear for his malicious guile. Scarce will always be, however, the number of people who inspire the trust requisite to maintain a gargantuan ponzi scheme. Madoff was a rara avis of deception whereas the common street thug abounds.

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  130. on February 9, 2009 at 8:52 pm Firepower

    ha – a post about
    wimmins political acumen

    degrading into
    buttsize and weight arguments

    No woman with tampons under her sink
    should be allowed to vote

    Ho-ho! You make Firepower laugh!

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  131. on February 9, 2009 at 8:59 pm joel

    Speaking about Obamania, this is of interest about a trial concerning “rendition” of terrorists, something Obama campaigned about and how he claimed it was ruining our standing in the world.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/10/us/10torture.html?hp

    An excerpt:

    Judge Schroeder asked, “The change in administration has no bearing?”

    Once more, he said, “No, Your Honor.” The position he was taking in court on behalf of the government had been “thoroughly vetted with the appropriate officials within the new administration,” and “these are the authorized positions,” he said.

    The ACLU is yapping like a dog over this. Good.

    It will be fun watching the Obamamaniacs taking it in every orifice, and sucking it up and sucking it down, all the while saying how good it tastes, because its Obama’s.

    But, when you are a woman, I guess you don’t mind.

    Life can be sweet.

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  132. on February 9, 2009 at 9:04 pm T. AKA Ricky Raw

    Ricky Raw, are you nuts? Go see clueless and the Crush. Bitch is smokin…..Those weight problems pale in comparison to that lumpy mass of ugly face we call scarjo.

    Dude, she was like 19 in that movie. Who isn’t decent at that age? Just being young helps a lot, especially as far as metabolism goes. Check her out when she can’t rely on her natural metabolism anymore as she ages, like in Batman and Robin. She had a double chin and a gut. By the time she was 29 and unable to rely on her teenage metabolism anymore she was so bad paparazzi were chasing her in the street yelling “Hey Fat Girl” and hounding her to get pictures of her weight gain. I will not include the link so that the comment won’t enter moderation, but instead cut and paste the article. But feel free to google it yourself:

    Actress Alicia Silverstone was chased by a group of paparazzi in an airport and forced to hide in a cardboard box to escape.

    Alicia, 29, confessed she was terrified by the paparazzi, who, after they saw her, started to shout “fat girl”. Angry and hurt, Alicia started to run and hide in a container, where she laid low until the crowd had disappeared.

    The beautiful actress said: “I was walking through LA airport and saw a group of photographers. They suddenly gave chase, screaming, ‘Hey, Fat Girl!

    ‘I just had to escape. I ended up hiding in a box.”

    Alicia Silverstone earned the heartless nickname after she dressed in a tight PVC cat suit which showed off her curves as Bat Girl in movie ‘Batman’.

    ScarJo has never gotten so lumpy that I heard any such story or nickname attached to her. Now THAT’S lumpy.

    No speech impediment at all. You’re imagining things.

    Pull up any Youtube interview with her. Listen to her speak any word with an “s” or a “th” sound and watch her lip contort like Sly Stallone on novocaine circa 1981. Not my idea of hot. I could overlook it at 18 or 19, but not anymore.

    Silverstone. Crazy video. need I say more?

    She was just okay in that video, was never that impressed. She was just getting by on being young and acting slutty like the director asked her to. Like I said, at 18 or 19 and acting slutty, you have to be a true disaster not to be attractive.

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  133. on February 9, 2009 at 9:11 pm RW

    We shouldn’t look at all women in the political realm as simply emotionally driven. In other nations, there is less room for that.

    Here of course, there is the warm suckle of the government telling you the world is a safe place and the best place to take your problem is to the local gubmint office where they will file your restraining order against your husband (even if you don’t need it) and begin the process of collecting for your victim status.

    This country is producing the bad entitlement mentality and women are the number one target.
    They are also its number one consumer.

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  134. on February 9, 2009 at 9:12 pm Firepower

    all too easy

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  135. on February 9, 2009 at 9:20 pm David Alexander

    Once you realize that women are only attracted to alpha males, it seems rather sensible to simply pay the poorer ones with a welfare package instead of having said women suck the financial resources of a beta male. Paying taxes to prop up welfare, IMHO, is an excellent means of ensuring that women don’t come up to me and pretend to love me.

    But hey, if you like being used like a patsy and being lied to, then surely, you can go get married too…

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  136. on February 9, 2009 at 9:41 pm RW

    David, your concepts of the public interests on capping women from approaching you inappropriately by supporting ass raping of every tax payer in America as some sort of noble alternative is bizarre to say the least.

    How about this? We have you pay for three to five welfare mothers in order that they don’t bother the biological fathers of the offspring for any financial support.

    That would be sensible right? Obama has a similar plan in store for you and for all of us. The benevolence of the state will provide us salvation.

    Praise Obama!

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  137. on February 9, 2009 at 9:46 pm Isaac

    What’s swpl?

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  138. on February 9, 2009 at 9:50 pm David Alexander

    David, your concepts of the public interests on capping women from approaching you inappropriately by supporting ass raping of every tax payer in America as some sort of noble alternative is bizarre to say the least.

    Given that the alternative is a bunch of women preying on beta males and extracting income from them for a long period of time, it makes far more sense to simply spread the burden through out society to prevent the financial and mental rape of beta males.

    We have you pay for three to five welfare mothers in order that they don’t bother the biological fathers of the offspring for any financial support.

    IIRC, in my state*, if the mother goes on welfare, the father is required to pay child support. OTOH, many mothers get around this requirement by basically pretending to be unable to state who the father is. In a few cases, you’ll have a mother and father living together, but the mother states the man living with her is an unrelated boyfriend, and the child will lie to seal the lie.

    *My brother is paying back child support for when my nephew’s mom was on welfare in the mid 90s.

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  139. on February 9, 2009 at 9:53 pm chic noir

    T Alicia Silverstone has had worse weight problems than ScarJo ever had
    Thanks for posting this. When ole boy mentioned Silverstone I figured I need to hang it up. Alicia became a vegetarian and was able to lose the weight. Vegetarianism works for many people. I’m *talking* about a real vegetarian not the morningstar/ bocca burger type.

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  140. on February 9, 2009 at 9:54 pm chic noir

    Isaac
    What’s swpl?

    Issac-SWPL- Stuff White People Like. There is a book and blog by the same name. It’s good stuff and there are copy blogs of almost all subgroups.

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  141. on February 9, 2009 at 10:02 pm RW

    David,

    “Given that the alternative is a bunch of women preying on beta males and extracting income from them for a long period of time, it makes far more sense to simply spread the burden through out society to prevent the financial and mental rape of beta males.”

    Spread the burden? Is that like spread the wealth.
    Don’t let the propaganda inside your brain man!

    It does not make “far more sense” for me, you and countless others to subsidize a beta.

    Far from it, it is better to teach a beta to fish than to merely hand him one. LOL

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  142. on February 9, 2009 at 10:03 pm smoothvirus

    So when are you coming across the river and getting your CCP? And your Irish terrorist knit cap?

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  143. on February 9, 2009 at 10:08 pm ironrailsironweights

    GNP, anyone?

    Peter

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  144. on February 9, 2009 at 10:15 pm chic noir

    Can’t believe you called Beyonce a slut and in the next breath wrote something so disgusting about Silverstone. Yuck! I got a feeling that many of the men who comment here don’t really like women at all.

    @lurker- last comment to you. Just wanted to inform you that Silverstone is super liberal. More so than ScarJo will ever be. Go to Youtube to check out Silverstone’s snub of Elizabeth(the conservative) on the view.

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  145. on February 9, 2009 at 10:16 pm joel

    Why does D.A. assume that “somebody” has to support women? Let them fend for themselves. Geez. Then they might decide that betas are not that bad. They say love travels through the stomach, after all.

    And, D.A., when a woman is entirely dependent on you financially, and, most importantly, you could cut her off at any time, she will likely show more respect.

    I appreciate your concern about being robbed in divorce court, though. Our society will have to change before things get better for betas.

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  146. on February 9, 2009 at 10:20 pm DestroyToCreate

    Chuck:

    “*we won the war in Iraq.* ”

    By whose measure? If we had fully won the war why hadn’t Bush and Co. pull out? Obviously they didn’t feel we have won the war. If he does believe that then he’s unneccesarily putting American soldiers in harm’s way. So which is it Lurker?

    We won the war at the exact moment Saddam’s government fell and politcal control of the country fell into our hands. That is how EVERY war is “won”.

    What you are calling a “disaster” is, actually, the “post-war” period. You are entitled to your opinion, but recognize it is not the war you are criticizing.

    You might be surprised to know that the US still has troops in Germany. You may also be surprised to learn that the occupation of Japan lasted almost seven full years after the Potsdam Declaration (VJ Day in 1945).

    Don’t let the shrill voices of today’s media blind you from the reality that wars and occupations are violent, bloody, and time-consuming.

    The combined US and Allied death toll in over 5 years in Iraq is approx 4,500. This is, indeed, sad.

    The combined US and Allied death toll on ONE day in World War II (D-Day) was approx 5,500. This was in ONE day.

    Looking at the war in Iraq through the lens of history, as opposed to the myopic blinders of the left, you will see it as a surprisingly benign conflict.

    Imagine the world if America had as little backbone and as much whining in the 40s, as we do today. If you are not frightened by that thought, there’s not much else I can say.

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  147. on February 9, 2009 at 10:21 pm smoothvirus

    Oh and BTW, there were 3 homicides in Arlington last year. Year before that, 2. Year before that, 4.

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  148. on February 9, 2009 at 10:23 pm DestroyToCreate

    Re: Silverstone

    We were neighbors for a while during her fat period. I didn’t even recognize the girl. She was certainly not even in the top quartile of girls in the apartment building.

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  149. on February 9, 2009 at 10:49 pm JerrDogg

    Boy it really must be a long, long, dry time for me to actually think this as I don’t really have a big thing for black chicks or 40-somethings but I’d probably pork Michelle Obama too.

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  150. on February 9, 2009 at 11:32 pm whiskey

    T aka Ricky Raw — Obama could turn out to be loser beta. Buchanon, Grant, Bush in his second term, Bush’s father, Carter, Ford, Nixon in his second term, all had loser Beta stink on them. Carter and Ford the most, followed by Buchanon.

    Obama will be everyone’s turfed out loser abroad. Iran and Russia and China will all punk him out, with the collapse of the American defense umbrella causing everyone to nuke up as much as possible. That’s his foreign policy legacy.

    At home, it’s spending endless amounts of money on Welfare that excludes White males (they took out Clinton’s work requirement of the 1990’s) in a deep recession. Obama is banking on his being able to make the economy simply rise in 2012 which is a stupid bet, it’s likely to go down and down and down. Obama is not just beta, he’s stupid beta.

    He had a classic Male Alpha patronage moment (reach down, do favors for guys, make them obligated the way Peyton Manning, Tony Dungee, and other pros do).

    Carter was classic Beta. Angry fights with guys who should be on your patronage network. Think Buddy Ryan and Mike Ditka (when coaching). Contrast with say, Bill Parcells or Tony Dungee or Bill Cowher who personally lobbied for assistants to get jobs coaching. A true Male-oriented Alpha (distinct from Female-oriented Alpha) is patronage, patronage, and more patronage. For women it’s how he dominates the room.

    Women wanted to screw Clinton (and Obama) because they’re rock star celebrities. Guys loved Reagan because he gave lots of them jobs. Women HATED Reagan. For the same reason — he gave guys jobs. Women hate that.
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    As for crime and law enforcement, no cameras won’t work. They have tons of them in Britain, and the law and court system is afraid of real, hardcore criminals who wreak havoc and have rights. They go after Joe Average Law Abider, which includes heavier penalties for guys who fight back than the criminals for attacks/muggings. Particularly if the guy carries something that could be used as a weapon like an umbrella.

    What this does, naturally, is encourage people to carry illegally, firearms, and shoot and scoot when confronted. Also obscuring wear like hoodies, and hats, and scarves defeat cameras even with facial recognition. Expect a lot more of that.

    Boyinthebubble — nuclear proliferation means you either scare everyone into leaving you alone or you get nuked. It’s like being a bodybuilder, until one day everyone’s carrying guns. Now all your pumping up is useless. Particularly if a punk gets made for shooting you. It really is as simple as that. And something women are generally clueless about, none of their fights are serious. They don’t have a clue. Women actually BELIEVE that social pressure and consensus can constrain thugs.

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  151. on February 9, 2009 at 11:35 pm Tood

    JerrDogg,

    In other words, you are assuming the quantitative ratio is the only factor, and not the qualitative ratio.

    Sure, there are a lot of men in Silicon Valley. If they are Asian, they marry in their home country and bring their brides here. If they are white, they play World of Warcraft on Saturday night.

    They are no competition for a man with moderate Game, no matter how many there are. You are assuming that a woman will settle for what is there. I disagree. There is a point after which a woman would rather date no one than a lesser Beta in Silicon Valley.

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  152. on February 10, 2009 at 12:05 am Tood

    “history is any guide, and if fortune should shine upon the United States before the point of no return is reached, ”

    I predict that more and more Beta males will convert to Islam.

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  153. on February 10, 2009 at 1:12 am RF Interference

    Right on Sparks. Always remember – when seconds matter, the police are just minutes away.

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  154. on February 10, 2009 at 1:13 am Jack

    Women hated Reagan? Since he won 49 states, I find it hard to believe he didn’t have his female fans.

    As someone noted, the gender gap was not unusually large this year. MEN voting for Obama were at least as big a problem as WOMEN. Sure, young single urban sluts voted for him, but without young white men votes, Obama’s back in the Senate.

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  155. on February 10, 2009 at 1:23 am RW

    Whiskey, Tango, Foxtrot,

    “Women actually BELIEVE that social pressure and consensus can constrain thugs.”

    That might be the best thing I’ve read today. Succinct and powerfully true, at least in American society.

    Your post was excellent except I’m not clear on the Reagan part. What he did was believe in the American people, lower the tax rates and watch as the engine of the individual created the longest peacetime expansion in the nation’s history.

    Doing so created a boom of new ventures, expansion and of course jobs.

    And that is so anti-beta, isn’t it?

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  156. on February 10, 2009 at 1:28 am Lawful Neutral

    Whiskey: Obama is banking on his being able to make the economy simply rise in 2012 which is a stupid bet, it’s likely to go down and down and down. Obama is not just beta, he’s stupid beta.

    Naw, there’s a good chance there’ll be a recovery in the next four years regardless of what the government does. Obama’s smart enough to know he’ll get credit for it when it comes. I’m not saying he’ll deserve it, but he will get credit for it. 2012 is going to be a landslide.

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  157. on February 10, 2009 at 2:26 am ScotchFiend

    @lance [2/9/2009 3:52pm]

    i’m curious as to why you all seem to think this is the end of the world as we know it. you act is if this country has not seen worse days.

    OK, Lance, you asked, so I’ll detail why some of us are pessimistic about the future of this country.

    You’re correct that the US hasn’t YET reached “worse days”, but a look at MANY trends provides strong evidence that we can expect much worse days in the future, including over the near-,medium- and long-term.

    Some of these disturbing trends include:

    The importation of massive numbers of low-ability and low-skill Mexicans, among others, that actually cost society more NOW than they contribute (See: Robert Rector’s studies), but even worse future generations cost MORE LATER as they, statistically, join our high-cost, low-performance underclass. This is particularly outrageous because our government willfully does NOT enforce our existing laws except a tiny, token, ineffectual enforcement even though enforcement WAS PROMISED by the last big amnesty in 1986 (See: Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986). The American people were brazenly LIED TO. Yeah, that’s a first! If changes aren’t made, much of the US will likely transmogrify into the disaster that is Southern California. Of course some elites are getting rich off of this while suppressing the wages and opportunities for our own low-skill, low-ability people and the White-hating section of the elites is having an endless stream of very satisfying orgasms dreaming of day when “evil White people” are a minority.

    Huge funding problems BEGINNING over in the next ten years from the insolvency of pyramid-scheme-like Social Security and Medicare, which require constant growth to prevent onerous taxation or conversion into need-based welfare programs. The looming problem is the large-scale retirement of the Boomers.

    An extremely expensive, politicized and thoroughly corrupt “educational” system that in many cases fails to provide a quality education in favor of indoctrinating the youth of America to hate this county and its heritage, while having powerful, corrupt unions and lobbyists who resist any threat to their monopoly which has typically been embedded into a maze of state laws. NO WAY this will be reformed unless this county has a revolution that destroys the existing order (but we should still try)

    Massive 800 billion dollar per year trade deficits that ultimately give foreigners greater and greater ownership of American assets, including land, buildings, natural resources and corporations. Many “American” corporations are actually predominantly owned by foreign interests, including various recently created Sovereign Wealth Funds that are directed by foreign governments.

    A tremendous gap between the interests of most citizens and the globalized corporations. In many cases the long-term interests of the country are being sold out for benefit of the corporations or their owners. Some examples are:

    – The shuttering of US-based manufacturing by building factories overseas or by using the products of foreign companies with a familiar American brand name slapped on

    – The offshoring of R&D. This will eventually weaken our innovation. Thanks Intel, HP, IBM, Microsoft, Boeing, etc, etc, etc! This will also cause a feedback loop that weakens American university R&D. Oh, yeah. National security will suffer too (more later).

    – The loss of many professional jobs via in-sourcing and offshoring. Many remaining professionals are under wage pressure from this foreign competition.

    Many of these trends have a feedback effect on our youth who decide with some justification, you’d have to be a chump to major in computer science, science, engineering and a variety of other fields that involve genuine wealth creation, where you’ll constantly be under threat of offshoring or replacement by an constant stream of H-1Bs. Better to be a lawyer, doctor, auto repairman, plumber, etc instead.

    Of course a lot of the folks that LOVE putting wage pressure and job instability on our working and middle classes are giving themselves, 1000x-100,000x times the average workers salaries while they “create efficiency”. I suspect that in a decade or two the East Asians will “create efficiency” by replacing much of the obscenely compensated US executive and financial class with their own more modestly compensated class, thereby giving themselves a staggering competitive advantage and slowly displacing the “American” corporations that’ve gutted this country for an immoral and unhealthy profit.

    Note that American companies have been helping China build a modern manufacturing infrastructure with full knowledge transfer of advanced technology and managerial doctrines. The next logical step is for China to build more fully indigenous corporations that include the full range of high-value functions, like accounting, legal, management, financial, IT, strategy, advertising, marketing, R&D, etc that the US was supposedly going to dominate since we decided to switch to a service economy.

    Of course because of the MASSIVE imbalance in investment position between the US and China, the Chinese will likely be able to take outright ownership and control of many American corporations and brands and then quietly replace whatever high-value functions are left in the US with cheaper workers in China as they gain skill.

    China appears to be run by an elite that intelligently plans over a broad set of time scales including 50 and 100 years ahead and therefore they will be significantly more powerful as each new decade arrives. They have a fairly monolithic culture that is unapologetically ethnocentric and won’t be riven by group conflicts like we will. They’re aggressively colonizing their minority areas like Tibet and the Uighur-populated region of Xinjiang to the near silence of the White-hating Multiculturalists of the West who think its a mortal sin if ANY traditional White homeland is NOT heavily colonized by non-Whites. In fact the Chinese are busy colonizing Africa and treating the natives rather harshly, but it’s probably racist to notice, since the Chinese aren’t “Evil White People(TM)”?

    The Chinese play Go and we play Get-Stripped Poker. Wow, bluffing and bluster sure work better than long term strategy!

    The weakening of the traditional family through feminism, the Welfare State and a propaganda war led by the Cultural Marxists, Hollywood, the MSM and the Advertising industry to insult, undermine and degrade Whites, Christians and families is weakening the ties between men and women, creating more broken homes and dysfunctional parenting for more children, and dissolving communities through anomie and atomization.

    The shocking distance our “culture” has traveled toward normalizing nihilism, perversion, degradation, coarseness, selfishness, thuggishness, White-hatred and Christian-hatred would’ve was dismissed thirty years ago as uptight paranoia. Yet here we are. God knows how bad it will be in another thirty years if this county survives that long. I’m talking about filth like Jerry Springer, Maury Povich, Harold & Kumar Go To White Castle, Sex and the City, among thousands of other examples.

    Our society lavishly rewards parasitic lawyers that drive up with cost of business while financing the next round of legal assaults on what remains of American industry. Also, unproductive loafers get set for life or get massive nuisance payouts by claiming discrimination, which drives risk averse business management to further reinforce the growing class of politically correct commissars in imposing their anti-White and anti-Male ideology in the hope of avoiding these massive payouts.

    Out traditional Freedom of Speech is being steadily eroded by so-called Hate Speech Laws, Speech Codes and corporate submission to the Diversity Industry and its diktats.

    Our “Journalists” in the MSM constantly suppress non-politically correct stories like the Knoxville Horror, the Witchita Massacre, the vicious murder of Polish immigrant Jan Pawel Pietrzak and his Black wife by four Black subordinates, packs of Blacks attacking Whites in the Detroit suburbs, etc, while endlessly trumpeting any politically correct crime where Whites are guilty. Of course, the test of a double standard is whether they would change their coverage if the identities of the perpetrators and victim were interchanged.

    A broad theme in America’s decline is growing legalized corruption and “socializing costs and privatizing profit”.

    The corrupt financial industry and the incestuously intertwined economic leadership class profited greatly for decades by making extremely risky decisions. Robert Rubin, among other con artists, successfully lobbied to reverse laws from the Depression designed to contain this dangerous risk. When their highly profitable bubble burst, most of these crooks, who banked many years of bubble profits, were bailed out by the transferring substantial losses onto future taxpayers and then many of these “leaders” had the nerve to award themselves large bonuses for a “job done extremely badly”. PS. Almost all of them are still in power! Why weren’t most of these incompetents and thieves and most of the governing boards thrown out since their leadership has been disastrous? BTW. Obama is appointing the same corrupt plutocrats within his administration.

    Race relations keep deteriorating the more marginalized Whites become. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 was sold as color-blind, non-discrimination and rapidly morphed into quotas which continue to the present and look to get even more onerous once Obama’s appointments diffuse through the bureaucracy and courts and the Democrat-controlled Congress lets loose.

    Many Blacks are taught that if they don’t succeed in each field EXACTLY the same as Whites (except Sports, Rap, and other pursuits that Blacks are statistically gifted in), then it MUST be due to malevolent discrimination on the part of Whites as opposed to differences in abilities, culture, behavior, interests, etc between the races. In spite of TRILLIONS in net transfer payments and indirect benefits to Blacks over the last fifty years, lots more goodies and reparations will be needed “to be fair”.

    Of course mention of the MASSIVE disproportionate Black crime rate is taboo and various dysfunctionalities like 72+% illegitimacy must all be White people’s fault.

    See: The Color of Crime LINK

    The political system seems unreformable and driven by legalized corruption (lobbying, revolving door between bureaucrats and lobbyists, influence peddling, etc). At least Blago was refreshingly honest about his blatant corruption. Many politicians play exactly the same game with more subtlety and obfuscation. Special and foreign interests seem to dominate the nuts-and-bolts of government decision making.

    Our imperial foreign policy benefits Israel and power hungry Neocons more than Americans. How come we spend over half a trillion dollars to spread an Imperial military over nearly every corner of the Earth, but we can’t even secure our own border? How does it serve America’s interests to get in Russia’s face right on its border? Would America take kindly to Russia interfering in countries right on OUR border trying to create a hostile wall around us? A review of the Neocon media campaign after 9/11 reveals their real motive in pushing Democracy in the Middle East and toppling Iraq, Syria and Iran was to improve Israel’s security NOT America’s (I read at least a thousand of their op-eds and articles from 1998 through 2006).

    See: Ari Shavit, White Man’s Burden LINK

    Politically correctness results in many powerful jobs within government being given to ethnics that may have dual loyalties (e.g. policy makers, ambassadors, support staff, etc)
    Jews with primary loyalty to Israel are the most serious and pervasive example of this malfeasance and the Iraq War is a bloody and costly consequence.

    Since our country is entangled in so many foreign conflicts, there’s a greater chance of war and because we have an open society filled with massive numbers of foreigners and it is discriminatory to deny foreigners access to even fairly sensitive jobs, it is likely our national security is gravely at risk in the event of conflict (e.g. with China).

    Since we’ve so gutted our manufacturing, particularly in electronics, we now import large quantities of sensitive military components, some of which may have back doors that let our enemies penetrate or devastate our Intelligence and Military Agencies and other vital infrastructure during wartime. Our breaking of German and Japanese codes during WWII was an important factor in winning the war. We are likely far more exposed today.

    And since Weapons of Mass Destruction are proliferating it is likely just a matter of time before the US is subjected to nuclear attack, EMP or biological warfare. A careful reading of our “civil defense” sites like ready.gov show that the government provides pathetically superficial information that won’t help most Americans actually prepare to cope with a serious attack. Their strategy seems to be to prevent the attack from ever happening (like EMP) because if one succeeds, our infrastructure on small, medium and large scales might well be devastated. If they were serious about civil defense, they’d help support a gradual strengthening our infrastructure, because when you plan ahead, the necessary adaptations might add a few percent to the costs.

    Whiteness Studies is the latest Cultural Marxist attack on Whites with plenty of Jewish scholars leading the charge to “deconstruct” the White Identity and demonize Whites. How come EVERY ethnic studies EXCEPT Whiteness Studies is a feel-good advocacy while Whiteness Studies attacks and insults Whites? How many academics are trying to “deconstruct” Black identity?

    And since many Jews like Noel Ignatiev and Ruth Frankenberg are so comfortable with pushing White Privilege and debunking White identity, I think a new academic field of “Jewishness Studies” should be inaugurated that looks into “Jewish Privilege” and the disproportionate influence and power they wield over Gentile societies. Jews are 2% of the US population: but 40+% of our billionaires are Jewish, Hollywood is strongly dominated by Jews, Jews have very strong influence in our MSM, Wall Street, government (thanks for the Iraq War!), academia (around 35% of Harvard students are Jewish), Jewish and crypto-Jewish groups like the ADL and the SPLC try to crush any Whites that advocate for their own ethnic group and silence any discussion or criticism of disproportionate Jewish influence as “anti-Semitism”, etc.

    See: Joel Stein, How Jewish Is Hollywood? LINK

    Jews heavily promoted Affirmative Action but they get counted as White instead of Jewish, so instead of non-Jewish Whites getting their proportional share under the reigning, de facto quota system, Jews will typically get 20-40% of the share in elite institutions (as 2% of the population).

    Typically Jews assertively wield their power in these institutions to pursue their group interests.

    See: Kevin MacDonald for voluminous, documented details
    LINK

    Many Jews condemn ANY attempt by Whites to have an ethnic identity and organize for their own protection or benefit while EVERY OTHER ETHNIC GROUP, ESPECIALLY JEWS, gets to do JUST THAT. A recent example is the Jewish-owned and Jewish-dominated New York Times (which just received a 250 million dollar cash infusion from the corrupt, monopolist Mexican billionaire Carlos Slim), which ran a series of editorials condemning a variety of groups and individuals that oppose massive 3rd World immigration as racists and nativists. And these same Jewish folks want to flood this country with non-Whites and REDEFINE this country as a Universal, Proposition Nation.

    Yet, these SAME Jewish people, organizations, media, Hollywood, academics, etc want THE EXACT OPPOSITE FOR ISRAEL! Israel gets to have essentially exclusive Jewish immigration and BE DEFINED as a Jewish ethnostate. I’m sick of the MASSIVE DOUBLE STANDARD and think until Jews stop attacking White people, White people should stop supporting the causes that Jews care about.

    How is it in America’s interest to have most of the Arab and Muslim world despise us for our slavish support of Israel?

    See: Mearsheimer and Walt, The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy LINK

    Since Jews think ethnostates are so bad, then they should dismantle their own first. They can start accepting 300,000 Hispanics and Africans in Israel each year until Jews are only a plurality in Israel just like they want for Whites in all the Western countries, and the Palestinians and their descendants who were ETHNICALLY CLEANSED from Israel since 1948 should be allowed to return and vote as fully-equal legal citizens.

    See: Ilan Pappe, The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine LINK

    And while Jewish dominated Hollywood loves to CONSTANTLY RETELL the story of the Holocaust, they NEVER seem interested in recounting the brutal slaughter of MANY MILLIONS of White Ukranian and Russian Christians that was dominated by brutal Jewish Leftist mass murderers.

    See: Sever Plocker, Stalin’s Jews LINK

    See: Yuri Slezkine, The Jewish Century LINK

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  158. on February 10, 2009 at 2:32 am JerrDogg (on the prowl)

    Tood,

    >in Game. The ratio that you mention is occupied by Silicon >Valley nerds who have zero Game and don’t even go out >much. So they are not really

    I’m bumming now. I must have zero game. I just got flaked on by the first 2 MILFs in the queue. One said that I was too dominant for her and she liked “shy guys”… ouch….

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  159. on February 10, 2009 at 2:45 am OVERCROWDING = SOCIAL PATHOLOGY

    The urban and some congested suburban populations which comprise Obama’s base are characterized by all kinds of social dysfunctions and pathologies as humans compete for space and what they perceive to be scarce resources – despite that fact that basic resources are not scarce in our post-industrial age but are in fact in abundant supply.

    See “Population Density and Social Pathology” – http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/pagerender.fcgi?artid=1501789&pageindex=1 – “The consequences of the behavioral pathology [due to overcrowding] we observed were most apparent amongst the females. Many were unable to carry pregnancy to full term or to survive delivery of their litters if they did. An even greater number, after successfully giving birth, fell short of their maternal functions. Among the males the behavioral disturbances ranged from sexual deviation to cannibalism and from frenetic overactivity to pathological withdrawal…The social organization of the animals showed equal disruption. Each of the experimental populations divided itself into several groups, in each of which the sex ratios were drastically modified. One group might consist of six or seven females and one male, whereas another would have 20 males and only 10 females.” [continued]

    Also see Desmond Morris’ book THE HUMAN ZOO on the very deleterious effects which congested and impersonal urban living has on humans.

    Or the experiments of John B. Calhoun – from another experiment with an overpopulated mice colony: “Initially the population grew rapidly, doubling every 55 days. The population reached 620 by day 315 after which the population growth dropped markedly. The last surviving birth was on day 600. This period between day 315 and day 600 saw a breakdown in social structure and in normal social behavior. Among the aberrations in behavior were the following: expulsion of young before weaning was complete, wounding of young, inability of dominant males to maintain the defense of their territory and females, aggressive behavior of females, passivity of non-dominant males with increased attacks on each other which were not defended against. After day 600 the social breakdown continued and the population declined toward extinction. During this period females ceased to reproduce. Their male counterparts withdrew completely, never engaging in courtship or fighting. They ate, drank, slept, and groomed themselves – all solitary pursuits. Sleek, healthy coats and an absence of scars characterized these males. They were dubbed “the beautiful ones”.” – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_B._Calhoun

    “Calhoun (1962a) was perhaps the seminal work suggesting a link between crowding and social pathology. He populated a room subdivided into four contiguous pens with rats and provided them with unlimited food and water; after a year, their density was high and he reported infanticide, cannibalism, homosexuality, and the formation of a “behavioral sink”: the majority of the rats would congregate to feed within a small subsection of the room, increasing their real density far above that imposed by the distribution of food or size of the enclosure, and seemingly exacerbating the social pressure of numbers. The analogy with humans apparently voluntarily flocking to decaying inner cities despite high crime rates and lower quality of life compared to rural areas was compelling and the paper widely cited.” – http://dss.ucsd.edu/~jmoore/publications/DensityInfanticide.html

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  160. on February 10, 2009 at 3:01 am Lupo

    “Putin and Ahmadinejad are now pitted against a stronger U.S., at least in terms of international sentiment. ”

    What fucking planet do you live on that “international sentiment” is worth two buckets of spit?

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  161. on February 10, 2009 at 3:07 am Tood

    ScotchField,

    So move to China. They don’t have Mexicans, and are buying up America anyway.

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  162. on February 10, 2009 at 3:09 am Tood

    “What fucking planet do you live on that “international sentiment” is worth two buckets of spit?”

    He comes from the planet of LiberalFaggotia. Inhabitants of LiberalFaggotia believe that since America is the most racist nation in the world, when America attones for its crimes, all the other nations of the world (which of course are less racist than America) will approve of America more, and permit America the dignity that it had not previously earned.

    This is the doctrine on the planet of LiberalFaggotia

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  163. on February 10, 2009 at 3:10 am Tood

    “One said that I was too dominant for her and she liked “shy guys”… ouch….”

    Balance, little grasshopper.

    But no woman really likes ‘shy guys’.

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  164. on February 10, 2009 at 3:17 am whiskey

    Jack, the Gender Gap was large for Reagan, at least twenty points, and that was with Married Women a majority and a far whiter nation.

    This year, single women voted Obama … 70-29. And Single Women are now for the first time ever the majority of women. Had there been the same amount of White Men in the population (as a percentage) and married women, as in 2000, McCain would have won. Comfortably.

    Lawful — The Economy has deep structural problems, mostly not enough productive young workers with high skills, lowering productivity, too much welfare, basically Chicago. Which only works because it collects money from the Feds. America does not make enough stuff to be productive, bottom line, and we can’t import cheap Chinese stuff to keep the economy going based on flip that house any more. Expect decades of bad times. Worldwide. I’m not sure tax cuts will make things better, but Obama’s stuff will sure make things worse. It’s like Robert Stacy McCain says, a drowning man gets … a cinderblock.

    Chic — Duh lots of guys have anger issues with women. Get used to it, and assume it will get worse. Women like to think guys without women will just go gay or whatever and that’s a stupid assumption. Women have no real clue about the whirlwind they’re reaping in the monomaniacal pursuit of Alphas.

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  165. on February 10, 2009 at 3:19 am whiskey

    Chic —

    One only need look at “Buffy the Vampire Slayer.” Beta and then some Xander saves Buffy, repeatedly and she’s always screwing Bad boy vampires and treating him like crap. Women LOVED that.

    Women HATE being rescued by Beta guys. Women in fact despise everything about beta guys. The only way to be Alpha is to be desired by lots of women, which means some form of celebrity and social dominance. ANYTHING an Alpha guy does is acceptable, see Bill Clinton and John Edwards and Barack Obama. NOTHING a Beta guy does is acceptable, even save a girl from violence and then some. Every guy knows this.

    Bottom line: women created the Bad Boy Alpha, the violent thug, and the eternal man-boy-child, along with the older counterpart, the bitter eternal beta. They need to accept this and accept the costs.

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  166. on February 10, 2009 at 3:30 am David Alexander

    Women have no real clue about the whirlwind they’re reaping in the monomaniacal pursuit of Alphas.

    Yes, instead, women should pretend to love me in order to trick me out of my money? We should have women preying on poor men who could be easily taken advantage of by the promise of sex.

    Fuck you and your stupid oppressive system Whiskey. I realized that no women would ever love me, and it’s about time the rest of the fucking world realized that nobody will ever love a beta male.

    but Obama’s stuff will sure make things worse

    So what’s your preferred solution?

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  167. on February 10, 2009 at 3:33 am Anonymous

    Ba1anced-A Beta with Alpha Tendencies: “But Please, let us discuss the perfect Alpha president…so that we can have a frame of reference.”

    The U.S. president was never meant to be alpha – the President was meant to be held in check by the Legislative and Judicial Branches of government. We have a tripartite system of government precisely so that some brash alpha cannot and will never become self-proclaimed permanent ruler of the U.S.

    —

    Also, the commenter here named “lurker” is disgustingly sociopathic and slimy Jew that needs to crawl back in to the gutter with his world-hating Talmud in Mother Russia where he belongs. He is a Jewish neocon of the worst order and deserves to be shunned. Fuck off “lurker.”

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  168. on February 10, 2009 at 6:37 am tokyojesusfist

    Anon:

    Today, this country is firmly liberal, feminist, and pro-female/anti-male, so risking your life to help a woman is one of the most beta things you can do.

    whiskey:

    Spot on for the attitudes towards guys who rescue women. Women generally hate that, and prefer violent dangerous men who abuse them. Rescuing women is particularly beta, women will despise any man who does it, so can expect far less of it as time goes on.

    This is what we call sour grapes. Since neither you have any fighting ability or balls, you try to tell yourselves that helping a woman who’s on the verge of being mugged, rapped or murdered is “beta” (whatever that means) and not worth doing. Lol.

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  169. on February 10, 2009 at 7:49 am Lawful Neutral

    D.A.: Fuck you and your stupid oppressive system Whiskey.

    The thing is, the alternatives are all much, much worse.

    it’s about time the rest of the fucking world realized that nobody will ever love a beta male.

    I don’t think you’ll like the results. Ever see the Road Warrior? Great movie, but it wouldn’t be much fun to live in. The D.A. strategy of porn and resignation is sensible (hell, it’s my strategy, too), but plenty of men would choose violent all-or-nothing gambles upon realizing they had nothing to lose. Whiskey is absolutely right that things will only get more violent, more corrupt, more unstable, and generally more barbaric as his “stupid oppressive system” decays. I’d also be surprised if whatever new system eventually tames the resulting chaos (fanatical Christianity or Islam, rabid nationalism, collectivist dictatorship, or whatever) isn’t a whole lot stupider and more oppressive.

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  170. on February 10, 2009 at 8:07 am SF Info Courier

    I don’t agree. I am in the Bay Area, and I don’t find it to be very hard to do well in Game.

    depends on where you are, and on who you are.

    * 415 (san francisco) ranges from “pretty good” (in winter) to “shooting fish in a barrel” (in summer).
    there’s a huge m/f imbalance, but a lot of the m’s are sticking themselves in the wrong column. and the alpha quotient in san francisco is frighteningly low.
    game potential = 8/10

    * 650 (peninsula) is where nightlife goes to die. i don’t think anyone in this area code leaves the house after 11:00 p.m.
    palo alto is a surprisingly good place for day game, though.
    game potential = 3/10

    * 925 (ritzy non-diverse east bay suburbs) is a good place for day game, although nightlife is nonexistent for people born after 1970.
    jerrdogg, if you want to go milf hunting, this is the place. stash some rubbers in your pocket, spritz on some cheap cologne, and set your gps for walnut creek.
    game potential = 4/10 if you were born after 1970, 9/10 if you were born before 1970.

    * 510 (oakland, hayward, india, and pakistan)
    you’ve got better odds on a military base.
    game potential = 0/10

    * 408 (san jose, china, korea, and japan)
    not much talent outside of douchebag hotspots like santana row.
    if you like them young, there’s good talent at local community colleges.
    game potential = 2/10 (6/10 if you have yellow fever)

    subtract one point from all of these ratings for each of the following cities you’ve ever lived in: tampa, NYC, phoenix, las vegas, austin.

    add one point if you’re from portland, and two points if you’re from seattle.

    this is the formula.

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  171. on February 10, 2009 at 8:11 am SF Info Courier

    Fuck you and your stupid oppressive system Whiskey. I realized that no women would ever love me, and it’s about time the rest of the fucking world realized that nobody will ever love a beta male.

    look! if you poke it enough, it tries to bite you!

    why don’t you just kill yourself?

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  172. on February 10, 2009 at 8:18 am SF Info Courier

    I’m bumming now. I must have zero game. I just got flaked on by the first 2 MILFs in the queue. One said that I was too dominant for her and she liked “shy guys”… ouch….

    are you sure this wasn’t a shit test?
    a woman who really likes shy guys, in nor cal, cannot possibly be single.
    i can’t even have diarrhea out here without browning a shy guy somewhere in the vicinity.

    if you had to approach her, then she does not like shy guys, period, and this was a shit test. if she approached you, uh, i don’t know what to tell you.

    go to the 925 and knock yourself out. then come back and post a field report.

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  173. on February 10, 2009 at 8:44 am gig

    it must be a shit test. But as a MILF, no matter what she thinks, she is entitled to shit test only a few times. Anyway, you failed in the first…

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  174. on February 10, 2009 at 8:57 am MarkD

    Naw, there’s a good chance there’ll be a recovery in the next four years regardless of what the government does. Obama’s smart enough to know he’ll get credit for it when it comes. I’m not saying he’ll deserve it, but he will get credit for it. 2012 is going to be a landslide.

    There’s a better chance we’ll look just like Japan of the 1990s. Massive government spending and no recovery whatsoever. Come to think of it, the 1930s here were more of the same. The mistakes you can avoid if you only pay attention are expensive and painful.

    Optimists starve. Pessimist buy gold, and survive. Cynics buy ammo.

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  175. on February 10, 2009 at 8:58 am ironrailsironweights

    Something I’ve figured out:

    Anyone who writes a blog comment – any blog, any topic – that is more than approximately 150 words long is an idiot. Time is valuable. Why waste it on writing some absurdly long essay as a blog comment, which hardly anyone with a life will bother reading in its entirety? Especially on a high-traffic blog like this one, where it will be lost in a sea of comments.

    Peter

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  176. on February 10, 2009 at 9:03 am Worthless Noir

    So what’s your preferred solution?

    First, shoot yourself in the head…one less whining loser. We’ll take it from there.

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  177. on February 10, 2009 at 9:04 am SF Info Courier

    Anyone who writes a blog comment – any blog, any topic – that is more than approximately 150 words long is an idiot. Time is valuable. Why waste it on writing some absurdly long essay as a blog comment, which hardly anyone with a life will bother reading in its entirety? Especially on a high-traffic blog like this one, where it will be lost in a sea of comments.

    especially when you can write novella-length jeremiads lamenting the minutiae of your daily rail commute and describing the physical features of your fellow commuters – while showing a remarkable gift for omitting any and all details that might actually be interesting.

    oh, and listing the details of your workout routine. because you’re, like, charles gazetteer, right? (“atlas” was already taken)

    preach on, boss!

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  178. on February 10, 2009 at 9:09 am Anon

    “There’s a better chance we’ll look just like Japan of the 1990s. Massive government spending and no recovery whatsoever. Come to think of it, the 1930s here were more of the same. The mistakes you can avoid if you only pay attention are expensive and painful.”

    I wish the US would look like Japan, even in the darkest days of Nippon. We don’t have a homogenous society of capable, intelligent people. We have group of productive, intelligent people, the rest are stupid, useless feeders(violent too). Liberals are in charge of the Titanic and are concerned about how the deck chairs are arranged and if black people like the arrangement. What could go wrong?

    “Optimists starve. Pessimist buy gold, and survive. Cynics buy ammo.”

    True. Every time I read an article like the one this post is about, I go buy more ammunition. Also, buy silver, it will be useful “small change.”

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  179. on February 10, 2009 at 9:11 am PA

    F…you and your stupid oppressive system Whiskey. I realized that no women would ever love me, and it’s about time the rest of the fucking world realized that nobody will ever love a beta male.

    I dig your cri d’coeur David. It’s interesting to see you and Whiskey go back and forth on this. You both share the same premise: that women don’t like beta males. I basically agree with this too. But here is where I disagree with both you and Whiskey:

    Sounds like the both of you are defining the despised beta male as today’s ubiquitous “nice guy,” or Xander per Whiskey’ sexample. Yeah, I’d agree that the Xanders of ther world aren’t wanted by women. But here is the rub: there didn’t use to be that many Xanders around back “in the day.”

    The Xander was beaten out of them by their childhood playmates, by their no-b.s. dads, by the fact that for most males childhood ended at 12 and work in the fields/factory/market/trades began.

    So when you (David) or Whiskey say that women don’t liek betas… it’s true. But again, “back in the day” betas were rare. Most men, even when low on the social totem pole, had a roughness about them that came across, to the women in their social class, as “alpha-enough.”

    Today’s Xander explosion among males is analogous to the obesity epidemic among females. All men want to have a supermodel chick, but they’ll settle for and be happy with any thin girl. Similar to women: they all dream about Tom Brady but will settle for an be hapy with any guy who carries himself with a semblance of masculine swagger.

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  180. on February 10, 2009 at 9:16 am PA

    Anyone who writes a blog comment – any blog, any topic – that is more than approximately 150 words long is an idiot. Time is valuable.

    That depends. Some people will write long, paragrahless rambling manifestos that I just pass right over. Others, who have a track-record of writing intelligently (Michael Blowhard, Clio, T/Ricky Raw, Whiskey) get my attention and I’ll read their whole comment, whether I agree with it or not.

    At their best, blog comments are a fun discussions, sorta like bullshitting with a bunch of intelligent people over beers.

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  181. on February 10, 2009 at 9:29 am ironrailsironweights

    Anyone who writes a blog comment – any blog, any topic – that is more than approximately 150 words long is an idiot. Time is valuable.

    That depends. Some people will write long, paragrahless rambling manifestos that I just pass right over. Others, who have a track-record of writing intelligently (Michael Blowhard, Clio, T/Ricky Raw, Whiskey) get my attention and I’ll read their whole comment, whether I agree with it or not.

    Yes, you are right, there are some people – not many – who can write lengthy comments that are worth reading. That’s clearly the exception, however, as most excessively long comments make sense mostly just to the people writing them.

    Location matters too. Long comments make more sense on blogs like 2Blowhards, where threads usually don’t get more than 15 to 20 comments, as people are more likely to read all of the comments in their entirety. Writing long comments is largely pointless on an extremely busy blog like this one, where postings often get 200+ comments, for as I noted they’ll be lost in a sea of comments.

    —

    especially when you can write novella-length jeremiads lamenting the minutiae of your daily rail commute and describing the physical features of your fellow commuters – while showing a remarkable gift for omitting any and all details that might actually be interesting.

    Your I.Q. score is probably too low to comprehend this, Einstein, but I focus on the physical features of fellow rail commuters because the extremely small seats make the size of the person sitting next to you a matter of great importance.

    Peter

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  182. on February 10, 2009 at 9:32 am Lyndon

    You dialed 911? Pussy.

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  183. on February 10, 2009 at 9:38 am ironrailsironweights

    But here is the rub: there didn’t use to be that many Xanders around back “in the day.”
    The Xander was beaten out of them by their childhood playmates, by their no-b.s. dads, by the fact that for most males childhood ended at 12 and work in the fields/factory/market/trades began.

    Another thing is that a higher percentage of men served in the military in past generations. Military service often knocks the Beta out of men, though it’s no guarantee.

    Peter

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  184. on February 10, 2009 at 9:40 am PA

    I focus on the physical features of fellow rail commuters because the extremely small seats make the size of the person sitting next to you a matter of great importance.

    I’ll wager that my fellow-train-commuters are fatter and uglier than your fellow train commuters. After all, you gotta have some minimum standards of appearance and behavior when you work in Manhattan, right?

    To boot, mine, being mostly federal governemnt employees, likely display more of the boorish traits than I imagine NYC commuters will display: eardrum-blasting iPods (my ear, not theirs), obnoxiously loud explosions of guffaws that some call “laughter” at 5:15 AM; snorting and sniffling; and insipid yapping into their cellphones.

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  185. on February 10, 2009 at 10:32 am ironrailsironweights

    I’ll wager that my fellow-train-commuters are fatter and uglier than your fellow train commuters. After all, you gotta have some minimum standards of appearance and behavior when you work in Manhattan, right?

    You’d be surprised. I sure was when I started commuting. It’s probably the case that the more fit and trim men tend to live in the city, while the suburban burghers with whom I commute are of more generous proportions.

    Peter

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  186. on February 10, 2009 at 11:05 am Peter is an imbecile

    “…but I focus on the physical features of fellow rail commuters because the extremely small seats make the size of the person sitting next to you a matter of great importance.”

    Truly, you are part of the intellectual elite with that observation. Shit, you are insulting someone else’s inetlligence? You are an imbecile. All you need to do is leave a comment that mentions yet again the fact you don’t like waxing. That sums up your “contributions” here.

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  187. on February 10, 2009 at 12:19 pm ironrailsironweights

    @ Scotch Fiend –

    Yes, I see your points, so long as you understand that most people (especially here) are not going to read your entire comment.

    Peter

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  188. on February 10, 2009 at 12:33 pm JerrDogg

    >* 408 (san jose, china, korea, and japan)
    >not much talent outside of douchebag
    >hotspots like santana row.
    >if you like them young, there’s good talent at local >community colleges.
    >game potential = 2/10 (6/10 if you have yellow fever)

    Santana Row is only good for yellow fever and diggers.
    Los Gatos has a few decent bars.
    Day game here sucks. I’m getting a number every other day though.

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  189. on February 10, 2009 at 1:17 pm anonymous

    @ Scotch Fiend — I read your entire, lengthy, entry and thought it was brilliant and encylopedic!

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  190. on February 10, 2009 at 2:20 pm Usually Lurking

    re: Alicia Silverstone.

    I remember her being hot in Clueless and then saw an interview with her about 10 years after that and noticed that her teeth had literally started to “space”.

    I immediately Googled Alicia Silverstone Vegan and, sure enough, she had become a vegan soon after Clueless. The lack of certain Vitamins and Fatty Acids really fuck with some peoples health. She was one of them.

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  191. on February 10, 2009 at 2:22 pm Lance

    @scotch:

    that is a mighty impressive amalgam of legitimate social, political, and economic issues mixed with a good old-fashioned ‘angry white man’ rant on the evils of blacks, jews, and immigrants. i don’t care to speak to the latter. my feelings on those issues should be evident. here are my thoughts in a couple-few of the former:

    immigration:

    this country has always absorbed relatively large numbers of unskilled, alien people. were the southern and eastern european immigrants who came here a hundred years ago any more alien than the mexicans who came here today?

    the real difference, as i see it, is that those immigrants didn’t have a welfare state to fall back on, so they had no choice but to work hard. mexican immigrants who come here tend to be extremely hard-working. the problem arises with their children who tend to get caught up in the worst parts of american inner-city, low-achieving culture.

    the loss of manufacturing:

    this is just basic econmics. the US is a capital intensive country, we generally will not be able to compete in the manufacture of labor-intensive prodcuts. so what? we still have competitive advantage when it comes to capital-intensive industries. if we begin to break down some of the power of big corporations and unions, and our labor force and industries become more flexible, we can continue to move up the value chain.

    there was a point when most americans were farmers. and when the industrial revolution began and the agricultural industry could no longer support the majority of the workforce, there were plenty of people running around calling it the ‘end of the world’. was it? no, we transitioned from the agricultural age to the industrial; and there’s no reason why we can’t transition from the industrial to the information age.

    cultural decline:

    yes, postmodern, multiculturalist, nihilist, nonsense has done a number on us, but that doesn’t mean the answers lie in protectionism, white supremacy, and male chauvinism. there’s a middle ground, and most people inhabit that middle ground. the key is to empower ‘most people’ instead of this gov’t by special interests that we have now.

    a lot of these problems are related to rolling back the behemoth that big government has become. some can argue that it’s not likely to happen. maybe it isn’t. that doesn’t mean that it’s impossible.

    do you think that an american alive in 1863 was facing a rosy future, or 1932, or 1979? there’s a certain hubris in thinking that you happen to be alive at that great epochal moment when it all goes to shit and we’re just around the corner from the next dark ages. it’s the same hubris that motivates the worst of the climate change hysterics. in fact, that’s exactly who you remind me of. they have their science as well.

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  192. on February 10, 2009 at 2:39 pm Chris

    ScotchFiend:

    When I initially saw your comment and saw all the bolded capital words, I guessed it would be some closed-minded screed. But I took a look and it turns out I agree with about 90% of it. Just two things:

    – While China is trying to be the rational dictatorship you describe, they’re not as close to the ideal as you imply. Government policy does actually encourage underperforming minorities to have more children, it’s just that the Han majority is so large that the negative consequences will be too small to matter in the foreseeable future, unlike in the US. They probably do plan with a 50-100 year horizon now, but they didn’t back when the One Child policy was initially put into effect (it’s only since the 80’s that mainland Chinese have received decent educations; in the 70’s professors were imprisoned or sent to toil in the fields…), so they’ll have their hands full for a while just mitigating its negative side effects. And in general, I have yet to see a reason why the dictatorship won’t degrade from within like most other Chinese authoritarian regimes have in the past. At which point, all bets are off as to what happens next.

    America’s system of government has many faults, but never ever underestimate the value of peacefully throwing the bums out. If China gains that capability, it could very well become unstoppable; but it’s not there yet, and (being of Chinese ancestry myself) I’m concerned it will never get there.

    – Your argument about Jews preaching one thing for the US and practicing another in Israel is, in fact, overstated, in a context where overstating your case is incredibly damaging to your persuasiveness. For better or worse, there are an awful lot of liberal American Jews who are intellectually consistent and advocate suicidal policies for Israel. Having grown up mostly around unusually well-behaved, high IQ people, they inaccurately but understandably extrapolate these characteristics to strangers they haven’t met.

    Jews actually living in Israel, not being nearly as insulated from violence, are substantially less likely to make the same mistake (though it still happens).

    Now, neocon and other Jews who actually do fit your description are, indeed, scum. But they are the minority, and you need to make this clear if you want to avoid arming your opponents.

    – And yeah, get rid of the bolded capitalized words.

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  193. on February 10, 2009 at 2:41 pm Tood

    *415 : Agreed, it is superb. Day game, Night Game, everything. 9/10.

    *650 : Come on, Palo Alto is good. Both Univ. Ave. and the Stanford Mall. Nightlife sucks because it is near enough to SF. 6/10.

    *408 : There is no night game, but day game possibilities are plenty. Santana Row, Mountain View, Campbell, Los Gatos, etc. Also, this is where men are the most Beta, so there is no competition. A lot of hotties live in Campbell. Also, many of the Asian women are quite good. 5/10.

    *510 : Agreed, this totally sucks outside of Berkeley. 2/10.

    *925 : Perhaps, but it is too far. The best bet is to find a divorced MILF from match.com.

    Only someone who has lived in NY or LA will find the Bay Area to be poor. It is the best place to get an Asian woman, and also the best place for those who don’t like Black women (i.e. there are very few of them).

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  194. on February 10, 2009 at 2:47 pm ScotchFiend

    @anonymous at 1:17pm

    Thanks. I really appreciate your compliments.

    I spent many hours forging that post into its current very imperfect form. In spite of its great length, many subjects were very lightly brushed over or could use better phrasing. Over the next few months I plan to extend and polish this post on my blog.

    Using this as a starting point, I’m going to create an evolving master list of symptoms of American and Western decline that others can contribute to.

    I’d like to encourage more thinking on how we can reverse or mitigate these troubling trends.

    I think most of us are struggling to understand as best we can, given our abilities and available resources: What is true? Why? And what we can do about it?

    I don’t pretend to have all the answers and welcome alternative and dissenting perspectives or corrections to any errors I make.

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  195. on February 10, 2009 at 2:49 pm Chris

    Oh, I was careless in using the word “dictatorship” to describe Chinese government. (The term was accurate in Mao’s day, but not now.) But it’s still an authoritarian system with no good way to throw the bums out.

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  196. on February 10, 2009 at 3:02 pm PA

    ScotchFiend, I agree with others: very good comment, I agree with most but not all of it. And the bold words are what caused me to ignore it originally.

    If you are looking for additional perspectives to supplement your point of view, I recommend Mencius Moldbug’s blog “Unqualified Reservations” at blogspot.

    Much of it has deteriorated to nerd-bait and please ignore his prospective “Formalist” articles as ultra nerd bait. But his descriptive pieces, especially in the early archives, are fantastic and original.

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  197. on February 10, 2009 at 3:16 pm JerrDogg

    Tood,

    Where are the decent day game places in 415? I have to meet with people during the day up there sometimes and since I run my own gig it’s not like I’ll get in trouble for playing hookey for a few hours here and there. And don’t send me to the Castro!

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  198. on February 10, 2009 at 3:19 pm ScotchFiend

    @lance

    I’ll respond to the rest of your post separately.

    that is a mighty impressive amalgam of legitimate social, political, and economic issues mixed with a good old-fashioned ‘angry white man’ rant on the evils of blacks, jews, and immigrants. i don’t care to speak to the latter.

    I think it IS IMPORTANT that you do address what I allege is a great hypocrisy among many Jews where they advocate ONE set of policies (proposition nation, high 3rd World immigration, etc) for the US and the West, but OPPOSITE policies for Israel.

    A close reading of dozens of your posts and a look at your blog leads me to believe you are likely Jewish with substantial Neocon influence (Hey, I was too for many years!) and you are indeed a strong, articulate and intelligent promoter of these EXACT policies for the US. At the moment I have no knowledge of what you propose for Israel.

    Do you support large-scale 3rd World non-Jewish immigration into Israel?

    Should Palestinians who used to live in Israel or their descendants be allowed to return to Israel with full citizenship?

    Should Israel also define itself as a proposition nation instead of as Jewish ethnostate?

    If you propose different policies for Israel than the US, how do you justify this double standard?

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  199. on February 10, 2009 at 3:29 pm David Alexander

    but plenty of men would choose violent all-or-nothing gambles upon realizing they had nothing to lose

    I think you’d be pleasantly surprised. The threat of prison and death is certainly a factor in determining whether a man decides to risk doing something stupid in exchange for a life of being a bitch to somebody bigger with no access to TV, porn, and freedom.

    Just cash your checks and enjoy your life. I* can travel the world, buy a nice car, and not have a woman constantly nag about my hobbies. In other words, I have a better life than any husband stuck with a wife and kids has. I have freedom, and he’s tied down to a woman that will never love him.

    *Well, if I was white and had a good job. Sadly, there are certain parts of the world where black people just aren’t wanted…

    There’s a better chance we’ll look just like Japan of the 1990s.

    Some economists have argued that the Japanese building boom was primarily wasted roads to nowhere that did absolutely nothing, and were projects designed under the 1980s boom to simply buy off rural votes and construction firms.

    Regardless, perpetual low or non-growth is still better than declining growth, and Japan was able to absorb such low growth due to their incredibly low population growth.

    Sounds like the both of you are defining the despised beta male as today’s ubiquitous “nice guy,” or Xander per Whiskey’ sexample. Yeah, I’d agree that the Xanders of ther world aren’t wanted by women. But here is the rub: there didn’t use to be that many Xanders around back “in the day.”

    PA, the problem is that using “back in the day” is a false standard primarily because women’s choices were restricted to dating men who could support them without starving. These men would have become third rate undatable men if these women were able to support themselves. The only real choice as far as I’m concerned is when women AND men are allowed to choose based on attractiveness, and not based on financial needs.

    All men want to have a supermodel chick, but they’ll settle for and be happy with any thin girl.

    Maybe men should stop settling and start holding out.

    they all dream about Tom Brady but will settle for an be hapy with any guy who carries himself with a semblance of masculine swagger.

    Yes, until a more masculine male comes along.

    Besides, masculine swagger sounds like “uncouth douchebag”, and I prefer to be the warm friendly uncle to my niece and nephew who exfoliates everyday.

    I’ll wager that my fellow-train-commuters are fatter and uglier than your fellow train commuters. After all, you gotta have some minimum standards of appearance and behavior when you work in Manhattan, right?

    I’d think you’d be pleasantly surprised, and yes, ugly folks do work in Manhattan…

    OTOH, my work experience is limited, but it does seem that the women who do commute on the LIRR are rather attractive, and some of the older women are better looking than the young women that live in Manhattan. Plus, the suburban women are more likely to have heels and nails.

    In contrast, the subway is a different story. Oddly, the lines that go into the heart of poor and working class minority areas have better looking women than the lines heading out to middle class areas…

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  200. on February 10, 2009 at 3:29 pm Tood

    JerrDogg,

    TONS. Try Union Square. Or Union Street. Or the Financial district. Or the Marina. Or by UCSF. Or Columbus Ave/North Beach.

    It would be easier to say where there isn’t a daygame chance. Avoid Castro, and avoid some of the poorer neighborhoods where MS-13 gangmembers like to kill Americans. Remember that SF is a ‘sanctuary city’ for dangerous gangsters from Latin America.

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  201. on February 10, 2009 at 4:26 pm ScotchFiend

    @lance at 2:22pm

    OK. Here’s my reply to the rest of your post.

    Immigration

    I’m not against immigrants as human beings. I’m criticizing our current POLICY of massive legal and illegal immigration and the well-known demographic changes this is causing. I believe we need a major pause, similar to what we had from 1924 to 1965. This policy damages most native Americans while benefiting a small set of elites and ideologues.

    Are the Mexicans and other Hispanics more alien that the massive immigrant waves from the 1880s through the 1920s?

    Yes the are. For one thing Mexico is right on our southern border and Mexicans are taught that the US stole the Southwest from Mexico, which they should rightly reclaim. Also, the fire under the melting pot has been out for at least thirty years. Why else do we now have to deal with bilingual packaging, ATM machines, voice mail, etc?

    The human capital of Mexicans is estimated to be somewhat lower than for those previous European immigrants and various studies tracking lower Hispanic performance, even after five generations in the US attest to this.

    Loss of Manufacturing

    Well, one problem is that we aren’t ONLY losing low-value, labor-intensive manufacturing. Boeing has outsourced wing design to Japan. VERY few chemical plants are being built in the US while MANY are being built in China, India, etc. Intel has just built its first Fab in Dalian, China, etc.

    Many important, sophisticated technologies are no longer built in the US, including many that are vital for our national defense.

    I’ll repeat my point from the original post that R&D is also being increasing outsourced and over time this will weaken our university research and degrade our ability to prosper under a supposedly post-Industrial economy.

    I agree with you it is natural for their to be dislocation as technological changes roil the business world. My concern is our country is being out-competed by superior foreign leadership compared to our short-sighted corrupt leaders.

    Cultural Decline

    I agree with you about rolling back big government.

    I am NOT a White supremacist. A White supremacist wants Whites to dominate and conquer non-Whites. I believe that since our government and society are promoting a multicultural society and since EVERY OTHER ETHNIC group including Blacks, Jews, Hispanics, Asians, Native Americans, etc is able to behave ethnocentrically and organize for their own benefit and interests it is ONLY FAIR that Whites have EXACTLY THE SAME RIGHTS.

    It is hypocritical that explicitly racist and supremacist groups like MEChA are receive government funds and may organize on campus while organizations that merely wish to pursue White interests WITHOUT being supremacist are banned and their advocates are considered beyond the pale at our Universities and other institutions of civil society. Many California politicians were/are members of MEChA and receive NO criticism from our media, etc, while a logically equivalent politician, David Duke, was constantly condemned and outcast. Something similar could be said for Black nationalists and supremacists who don’t receive the same condemnation and ostracism that their logically equivalent White counterparts do.

    It’s certainly possible that these concerns about the future of America and the West are overblown and certainly it seems common for people of many ages to the current generation is worse than the previous one. Yet, the Roman Empire DID fall resulting in chaos and death. The Byzantine Empire was slowly conquered and fell leaving Eastern Europe naked to the depredations of the Turks. And many disturbing parallels exist between the decadence and decline of historic empires and our own.

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  202. on February 10, 2009 at 4:34 pm ScotchFiend

    @PA

    Thanks for the tip.

    The bold words were because:

    1) I thought maybe people using some kind of alternate newsreader would benefit from using the b-tag to capture emphasis.

    2) I did want to highlight a few words or phrases using all caps to emphasize a point and, hopefully, make it easier to read, particularly in my ultra-long post.

    I won’t bother to bold text anymore.

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  203. on February 10, 2009 at 4:41 pm chic noir

    Scotchfiend said Massive 800 billion dollar per year trade deficits that ultimately give foreigners greater and greater ownership of American assets, including land, buildings, natural resources and corporations. Many “American” corporations are actually predominantly owned by foreign interests, including various recently created Sovereign Wealth Funds that are directed by foreign governments Cosign . You know I brought this up when I had a debate with Whiskey. He doesn’t seem to make mention of this but it’s very important. The reason we went into Iraq instead of Saudi Arabia is that Saudi Arabia owns this countries ass.

    A tremendous gap between the interests of most citizens and the globalized corporations. In many cases the long-term interests of the country are being sold out for benefit of the corporations or their owners

    Many of these trends have a feedback effect on our youth who decide with some justification, you’d have to be a chump to major in computer science, science, engineering and a variety of other fields that involve genuine wealth creation, where you’ll constantly be under threat of offshoring or replacement by an constant stream of H-1Bs. Better to be a lawyer, doctor, auto repairman, plumber, etc instead.
    Major cosign here. BTW doctors and nurses are being outsourced too. I think the number of foreign born doctors in Great Britain is 50% and in the US it’s 25%. American nurses face competition from Pilipino nurses being brought in and paid 15 bucks an hour compared to American nurses being paid 20 or more. Oh and lawyers are now bring outsourced as well. The Wallstreet Journal had an article on the topic a few weeks back SMH.

    The loss of many professional jobs via in-sourcing and offshoring. Many remaining professionals are under wage pressure from this foreign competition. You got that right but of course those Rush Limbagh Republicans don’t think like this until it hits them in the pocket. I’m not xenophobic but I have a problem with American business owners turning Americans into paupers for their bottom line. I don’t blame the illegal residents for coming here since most only come for a better life and I can’t fault them for that.

    The importation of massive numbers of low-ability and low-skill Mexicans
    This is a personal pet peeve of mine okay. Not all of the South Americans who enter this country illegally are Mexicans. Some are from Costa Rica, Brazil, Bolivia, Guatemala, El Salvador etc… BTW some of the most vicious gang bangers(whose gang shall remain nameless) come from El Salvador. Guess what American senator brought in a large number of PTSD male soliders from El Salvador(hint republican).

    Of course some elites are getting rich off of this while suppressing the wages and opportunities for our own low-skill, low-ability people
    Agreed and remember this when people fuss and argue about what autoworkers make.
    and the White-hating section of the elites is having an endless stream of very satisfying orgasms dreaming of day when “evil White people” are a minority.
    You know I really don’t think there is any group of whites who hate whites. I think it’s more to do with the cultured haves hating the uncultured and uncouth have nots.

    Huge funding problems BEGINNING over in the next ten years from the insolvency of pyramid-scheme-like Social Security and Medicare, which require constant growth to prevent onerous taxation or conversion into need-based welfare programs. The looming problem is the large-scale retirement of the Boomers.

    It looks like baby boomers will have to work longer. What do you think we should do with or about Social Security and Medicare? You gonna have more people than ever looking at Social Security as a good thing as a result of their 401Ks being slaughtered. Without Medicare, a lot of elderly people will die much sooner. Many grandma and grandpa will not live long without Medicare. Are you prepared to tell your grandparents that they have to bite the bullet since their bodies won’t hold up and they can’t afford doctor’s care or out of pocket cost?

    An extremely expensive, politicized and thoroughly corrupt “educational” system that in many cases fails to provide a quality education in favor of indoctrinating the youth of America to hate this county and its heritage
    Will you clarify this please? If by hating this country and its’ heritage, you mean detesting slavery, Jim Crow and the genocide of Native Americans well then we disagree. Actually, what the youths of this country detest is most of what you mentioned earlier. Americans being used as sacrifices for corporate interests.

    Of course a lot of the folks that LOVE putting wage pressure and job instability on our working and middle classes are giving themselves, 1000x-100,000x times the average workers salaries while they “create efficiency”.
    Ha we are Mfing I2I here. Great minds think alike darling 🙂

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  204. on February 10, 2009 at 4:43 pm Whackjob

    Also, most of you illiterates don’t realize that the crime rate in this country has been dropping for about 16 years now, right. Of course, everyone likes to preach doom and gloom; it gets better ratings.

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  205. on February 10, 2009 at 4:52 pm chic noir

    Whiskey As for crime and law enforcement, no cameras won’t work. They have tons of them in Britain, and the law and court system is afraid of real, hardcore criminals who wreak havoc and have rights. In America we have this thing were we prefer to let a guilty person go free versus jailing an innocent so that’s a big reason why criminals get an easier ride in America.
    They go after Joe Average Law Abider, which includes heavier penalties for guys who fight back than the criminals for attacks/muggings. Particularly if the guy carries something that could be used as a weapon like an umbrella. Yea I have a real problem with this. You know every so often you will hear stories on the news about some working class Black person living in ruff neighborhood sticking up for him/herself and/or protecting their property. Of course, the courts try to stick it to them. Meanwhile the thug or trash is made out to be some helpless victim when they had it coming to them all along.

    Women wanted to screw Clinton (and Obama) because they’re rock star celebrities. Guys loved Reagan because he gave lots of them jobs. Women HATED Reagan. For the same reason — he gave guys jobs. Women hate that. I don’t agree Whiskey. Women wanted to lay up with Clinton because he is deeply charismatic and pulls a biological response from women, same thing with Obama. BTW, Bush was a handsome man before he became President. His problem is, when he opens his mouth he turns women *off*. Women didn’t hate Regan because he gave men jobs. That was a good thing, they hated Reagan because he worshiped wealth and seemed to detest the poor.

    Balanced You have men and women out there wishing each other would just die. I believe after heartbreak, everyone goes through a season of bitterness…..the problem occurs when they can’t shake the shit off and keep getting into a cycle of ending up with the same losers
    My sweetheart you have returned 🙂 Cosign this, I would think the best thing a person can after having his or her heart broken is to hold off on another relationship any time soon. Just enjoy yourself and life because when you are not looking they always seem to chase you down.

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  206. on February 10, 2009 at 5:47 pm JerrDogg

    > come across a bitter nice guy I think this is a guy
    > whose had his heart broken and a potential
    > woman beater or at the very least a
    > physiological abuser.

    I’m a bit bitter but not a potential beater. Although right now I wouldn’t mind blindfolding a shy asian woman, tying her up, and feeding her raspberries while I…

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  207. on February 10, 2009 at 6:03 pm Wounded Animal

    Women didn’t hate Regan because he gave men jobs. That was a good thing, they hated Reagan because he worshiped wealth and seemed to detest the poor.

    Again, this is why women have to be kept from voting. When they vote, they get this illusion that there’s this thing called “the public good,” in which EVERYBODY ought to be family. In fact, women are the biggest hypocrites of them all, because in their private lives, women are every bit as greedy and self-interested as the most rapacious Wall Street banker.

    Women don’t give a shit about the poor. If they did, they’d run out and find a poor but hardworking guy right out of tech school to provide him the necessary support while he builds his trade and leads the family into a solid middle class lifestyle.

    Also, that’s a silly canard about Reagan, who was from humble origins and a hundredth less avaricious than eaters like the Clintons or the Gores or the Obamas. And as whiskey pointed out, Reagan enacted policies that gave the average schlep a shot at solid middle and upper middle class life. Women hate that because, in their irrationality, they want their pretty boy alphas to be able to live off the fat of the land while all the betas slave away to support the Big Men and their retinue.

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  208. on February 10, 2009 at 6:10 pm ScotchFiend

    @Chris at 2:39pm

    Thanks for your insights into China and its regime and your other comments.

    Regarding American government, over the last couple of years I’ve started to seriously question whether our system really does allow “peacefully throwing the bums out”. In many ways we seem to have a system of monotonically increasing centralized government power that steadily reduces what remains of liberty and freedom. More power devolves to the courts and bureaucracies and the direction is almost always leftward.

    It seems like various powerful actors in our society like the media, corporations, government, think tanks, academia, non-profits, NGOs, etc, coupled with our system of voting favoring two major parties, have created a system that basically presents the choice of Kodos or Kang.

    Essentially our elites ALWAYS win every election, and I don’t believe our elites do a good job of representing the broader nation’s interests or managing the country well.

    And as our democracy seems to be approaching the Bread & Circuses stage where the bulk of voters become beneficiaries of government redistribution without paying any taxes, the system will likely continue its free fall to the inevitable.

    So I suspect the reputation of Democracy will be muddied badly over the next few decades as the West likely runs into the ground. THAT will enhance the legitimacy of the Chinese authoritarians if they can keep the trains running.

    Regarding Jewish hypocrisy, in case its not clear, when I refer to Jews, I’m referring to ethnicity and not religion and I’m not referring to the broad masses, but rather the powerful elites, their organizations like the AJC, ADL, SPLC, ACLU, and those individuals that wield strong influence based on their placement throughout our various institutions like Hollywood, MSM, government, Wall Street, academia, and so on. I have a disclaimer on my blog about some of this.

    I don’t deny that there are some liberal Jews who may be fully logically consistent, but I’m referring more the actual Jewish power structure that has disproportionate influence in the US. This power structure, e.g. Hollywood, MSM, the Neocons, ADL, SPLC, think tanks, bureaucrats, etc, is overwhelmingly hypocritical because they usually strongly oppose Whites having ANY ethnic identity and organizing ethnocentrically, while they do these EXACTLY THIS THEMSELVES, and, again, they overwhelmingly hold a double standard for policies between Israel and Jews versus the US and Whites.

    It is time to confront this on this intellectually and morally unsupportable double standard. And their illicit power to intimidate people into silence to avoid reasonable scrutiny should removed.

    It’s not that I want Israel destroyed. It’s that I’m sick of these powerful interests trying to radically transform my homeland and marginalize my people while holding completely contradictory positions on the country and people they really care most about.

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  209. on February 10, 2009 at 6:12 pm chic noir

    Scothfiend I don’t pretend to have all the answers and welcome alternative and dissenting perspectives or corrections to any errors I make.
    This makes me respect you.
    Why else do we now have to deal with bilingual packaging, ATM machines, voice mail, etc?
    Well there were German newspapers in the 1800s. Lets not forget that it takes a while to learn a new language. At the very least it’s two years with full emersion(&youth).

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  210. on February 10, 2009 at 7:35 pm anony

    HI Chic,
    I highly concur with appreciation of the men you list, esp. Keith-great mind and heart.

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  211. on February 10, 2009 at 7:51 pm ScotchFiend

    @Chic Noir at 4:41pm

    I agree with you on the trade deficits and foreign ownership. I suspect many Americans don’t really understand that we’ve been living high on the hog by selling off ownership of our country and its future. It seems disturbingly possible that Americans might end up as modern day serfs beholden to foreign masters.

    Yup. I’m all too aware of the increasing attempt and actuality of insourcing and offshoring traditionally safe professions, like accounting, medicine, radiology analysis, legal support, etc.

    Alan Blinder (eminent Princeton economist)
    Free Trade’s Great, but Offshoring Rattles Me
    Sunday, May 6, 2007, Washington Post
    LINK

    Regarding Mexicans versus other Latin Americans and other foreigners: Sorry if my phrasing was misleading, although I did include the “among others” modifier. I’m certainly aware of the diverse sources of immigration and was highlighting Mexicans because they pose the largest risk based on proximity, quantity, historical claim, current government instability, etc. But dysfunctionalities can certainly be spread far wider than Mexico as you noted.

    You know I really don’t think there is any group of whites who hate whites. I think it’s more to do with the cultured haves hating the uncultured and uncouth have nots.

    I don’t think there are a lot of Whites that hate other Whites, but there certainly IS a small but influential segment, particularly on the Left and among some Jews, like the late Susan Sontag, that have a visceral hatred of Whites and Christians. You can detect plenty of this animus in the reaction to Sarah Palin and her supporters, coastal views of flyover county and Many of these folks are ensconced in academia which is commonly a very anti-White environment.

    Essentially these whites think they’ve transcended race and are superior to salt-of-the-earth Whites. Given the reigning anti-White ideology of our times that portrays Whites as uniquely evil in world history, they probably project that hatred onto the non-bien-pensant Whites. I suspect a proper analysis of our “traitorous White elites” involves treating them as a separate class with distinct identity and interests from the traditional Whites.

    Again, I’m sick of giving in to immoral double standards where being anti-non-White is furiously proscribed while being anti-White is acceptable, cool and desired. Again, when in doubt, apply the “interchange identity” test.

    I expect Social Security and Medicare will raise taxes, apply some means testing, raise retirement ages and probably many other tricks to try to keep the costs from overwhelming this poorly designed system.

    One thing that would help keep medical costs down is to stop giving sleazy lawyers massive payouts for dubious lawsuits. Also, corporations should be funding all costs they scam onto society from their “socialize costs and privatize profits” game. The quintessential example is profiting from illegal immigration by sticking citizens and consumers with the socialized bill.

    An extremely expensive, politicized and thoroughly corrupt “educational” system that in many cases fails to provide a quality education in favor of indoctrinating the youth of America to hate this county and its heritage

    Will you clarify this please? If by hating this country and its’ heritage, you mean detesting slavery, Jim Crow and the genocide of Native Americans well then we disagree. Actually, what the youths of this country detest is most of what you mentioned earlier. Americans being used as sacrifices for corporate interests.

    White people have sinned and have their own historic blots that I believe have been extremely well-aired in our culture, education, policy, etc. My problem with the common coverage is its cartoonish anti-White bias by pretending that Whites were somehow uniquely evil in world history when essentially every other race and culture has practiced barbarism by modern standards, including a vicious slave pipeline into the Middle East that castrated MILLIONS of black men. I don’t think the history and social studies classes take a properly balanced look at many of these issues. I also doubt that too many public schools delve into important racial differences that play SOME role in differences in outcome, e.g. IQ, as opposed to the reigning orthodoxy, WHITE RACISM.

    Ha we are Mfing I2I here. Great minds think alike darling 🙂

    Thanks, Miss Chic. I’m still dusting off my long unused writing module.

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  212. on February 10, 2009 at 8:28 pm chic noir

    Scotch including a vicious slave pipeline into the Middle East that castrated MILLIONS of black men.
    Yea my people, Ethiopians, were frequently turned into eunuchs. They would use these eunuchs to guard their women who they keep in purda. You see the reason why this type of stuff isn’t discussed is because Americans as a group, don’t have any interest in History. I’ve talked with some people who have no idea what that the Trans Saharan slave trade was.

    I don’t think the history and social studies classes take a properly balanced look at many of these issues
    I on the fence here. I remember these things being discussed or maybe I read about them on my off time. I like History but many of my classmates didn’t. Some liked Math alot and got a kick out of bragging about the A’s they were scoring in Calculus. Outside of Calculus, many were very empty headed with no personal thoughts, ideas or questions about the world. They simply took pride in the fact that they scored easy *A’s* in Calculus while the rest of worked hard for our B in Math classes.

    You can detect plenty of this animus in the reaction to Sarah Palin and her supporters, coastal views of flyover county and Many of these folks are ensconced in academia which is commonly a very anti-White environment.
    yea you see I think the Sara Palin hatred was more of a class thing. In some ways she reminds me what we Black folks call ghetto Blacks. Her way of speaking, the names of her children and large family are many of the same.

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  213. on February 10, 2009 at 10:06 pm ironrailsironweights

    OTOH, my work experience is limited, but it does seem that the women who do commute on the LIRR are rather attractive, and some of the older women are better looking than the young women that live in Manhattan.

    That is true, there are quite a few reasonably hott women on the LIRR, not many true stunners but plenty in the 6 to 8 range. A nice selection of MILF’s in their 30’s and 40’s, if you’re into that, also a decent number of cute Asian chicks.

    Peter

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  214. on February 10, 2009 at 11:39 pm ScotchFiend

    @Chic Noir at 6:12pm

    Why else do we now have to deal with bilingual packaging, ATM machines, voice mail, etc?

    Well there were German newspapers in the 1800s. Lets not forget that it takes a while to learn a new language. At the very least it’s two years with full emersion(&youth).

    I agree with you that for adult speakers learning a foreign language in good faith a great deal of latitude is quite reasonable and there is no problem with a community maintaining its linguistic traditions for its own benefit.

    But I don’t see our modern situation comparable to the historic one. In the past we didn’t have executive orders FORCING the government (i.e. the chump taxpayers) to pay for translation services into ANY language. Historically, this was the responsibility of the immigrant community.

    See: Executive Order 13166 LINK

    We didn’t have immigrants DEMANDING TO VOTE or receive various government goodies in a foreign language. In the past there were no government goodies to get! Historically immigrants were pressured to conform to American society, while today powerful interests within the current regime encourage them NOT to conform.

    Whatever happened to the requirement that immigrants could NOT become a citizen unless they had basic language competence?

    In the past the immigrant languages did not inconvenience the majority population they Spanish sure wastes a lot of English speakers’ time today.

    NO ONE has consulted the American People on immigration, bilingualism, etc because they know if they did, they current policies would be rejected by a healthy majority and our masters mustn’t allow that.

    The real outrage is what is happening in states like California and Florida (and God knows where else) where Spanish is displacing English both de facto and officially. Native English speakers are locked out of jobs if they don’t speak Spanish, and many Spanish speakers don’t even make a modest attempt at learning English and they are coddled by having dozens of Spanish language media outlets.

    Again, were the people ever consulting before these radical changes were unleashed?

    There should be a revolution that breaks this county apart before other regions, like the South and Midwest, are “enriched like this”.

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  215. on February 11, 2009 at 12:36 am ScotchFiend

    @Tupac Chopra

    If at some point you can muster up the heart to document your experiences, I think it would help other Americans not immersed in your nightmare understand what’s in store for ALL OF US EVENTUALLY if we don’t start challenging our corrupt overlords.

    God knows our “Journalists” sure won’t tell these stories.

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  216. on February 11, 2009 at 2:12 am David Alexander

    In the past there were no government goodies to get!

    Actually, the government goodies were patronage positions from political machines. As an example, see Tammany Hall.

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  217. on February 11, 2009 at 2:32 am ScotchFiend

    @Dave Alexander

    But were those available to everyone eligible for welfare or just activists that “put out” for “Boss Tweed”?

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  218. on February 11, 2009 at 2:33 am Welmer

    chic noir

    Can’t believe you called Beyonce a slut and in the next breath wrote something so disgusting about Silverstone. Yuck! I got a feeling that many of the men who comment here don’t really like women at all.

    Just figuring that out? lol

    I’ll admit that at this point in my life I don’t have the highest opinion of women. Even so, that doesn’t keep them away.

    I got tricked into a Valentine’s Day date just the other day (during a late night phone call, while I was very tired, I agreed to a date on the “weekend” and it just so happens…). Women are sly that way.

    But I’m not buying any flowers, and I’m not getting on my knees. Maybe she will. It’s up to her, and I can tell her to go home whenever I please. I am polite, so I’m sure it will at least be cordial. My tastes in terms of looks have always been refined, but as I’ve matured I’ve recognized the value of other attributes in women, as rare as they unfortunately are.

    I’d say that women would best be served by learning to please men; we men are certainly instructed in how to slave away for women from an early age; something I will never again willingly do in my life (what the courts decide is another matter).

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  219. on February 11, 2009 at 2:45 am whiskey

    Chic —

    Here is the reality, cold and hard, about society, men, and women.

    FACT: Men will NOT come to women’s rescue, help them, save them, unless society massively invests them in doing so. You can proclaim your approval of something all you want. Who cares? You don’t get results unless you invest men, massively, and deeply. Before a crisis. You waving the flag of female social approval during a crisis is about as useless as a cast iron life preserver.

    FACT: This was born out at Virgina Tech. When Cho went on his rampage, not a single young man found his female classmates worth dying for. It took far older men to do anything at ALL in response. [This was my WTF? Moment. My awakening as it were. You just don’t know how out of whack that response was to male norms in the West since 1000 AD.]

    FACT: Victim of a crime? Blame a Single Mother (Ann Coulter is right).

    Women hated Reagan because he cut welfare, particularly to single mothers, and spent a lot of money on Defense, which employed a bunch of geeky, mostly White, engineers and blue collar guys like Joe the Plumber. Women hated that, and as soon as female candidate Clinton came on, he gutted Defense, predictably, to the cheers of women.

    Women hate, hate, hate everything about Beta Guys, and most of all they hate being rescued by them. So largely, as in the case of Cho, they won’t be. Women don’t like it, they want a free lunch. Guess what? Lunch ain’t free.

    That’s the cost of women’s rule: be Alpha.

    Obama Supporters are SWPL posers, and Obama’s out to loot the treasury, indulge his debased Volk Marxist feelings, anger towards Working Class White Men, and Islamist anti-American sentiment. He and his clown crew are Super-Dinkins, with their own Crown Heights riots coming up. I’m sure he will prove as incompetent as any other Affirmative Action hire (like his wife), and make us all long for the decisive leadership and glorious communication skills of GWB.

    Obama is nothing more than the current fad of fashion-obsessed women and the Media. The Pet Rock, or an Episode of the West Wing come to life. As hard times settle globally and stay, it’s a miracle if Obama does not get impeached soon. He’s probably one of the stupidest Presidents elected. AA at work.

    On a personal note: if I’m not having sex with you (or decent prospect of same), you’re not in my social network, you are not a potential or current client, or a colleague, why should I care about your opinion? A woman would. That’s a typical female mistake. Shrug.

    Wife beaters are generally Alpha types. Chris Brown and Rhianna. Ike and Tina Turner. Bobby Brown and Whitney Houston. Black female celebrities in particular for some reason love abusive men. It’s probably the high dose of testosterone. Women love that and will put up with abuse for decades to get it, Black women seemingly more than other races in America. Dalrymple details case after case in the UK. It takes a lot of testosterone to smack a woman around, and women generally don’t like it but like the lack of testosterone in guys even less. Women choose these guys, who have all the indicators of high testosterone: tattoos saying “F-Off” and scars from fighting and so on. They will in fact reliably choose their abusers over non-abusive, stable men who they find “boring.”

    Note: this is what women actually DO, as opposed to say. I’m sure Rhianna will be back with Brown like Tina to Ike.

    Again, women don’t really mind if guys are abusive as long as they are Alpha. If Sean Penn ties up Madonna to a chair for hours, beats her, and leaves her there, well he’s sexy. Same with the ghetto thug. What women HATE HATE HATE is lower testosterone, more abstract guys. They want the Testosterone-driven dominance and danger. They’ll take the broken bones and bruises.

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  220. on February 11, 2009 at 7:36 am DT

    I find that I come here as much for the blog comments as the blog posts. This site has some really interesting, if disturbing and sad, conversations. (Disturbing and sad because I have no desire to see America go down the path it is on.)

    ScotchFiend –

    The real outrage is what is happening in states like California and Florida (and God knows where else) where Spanish is displacing English both de facto and officially.

    A few months ago I was at a Subway in southern CA. I sort of know the owners and their family is from Indian. They’re hard workers, they speak English well, and they seem genuinly happy to be in and contribute to American society. Any way, while I was trying to pay a Mexican came in and rudely started talking to the cashier in Spanish. The cashier looked at him and said “I don’t understand you.” Unphased, he continued to bark in Spanish. The cashier looked at me, then looked back at the Mexican…”I don’t speak Spanish…English!” The Mexican looked at the cashier like he was from Mars and said “No speak Spanish?”

    “English! ENGLISH! What COUNTRY do you think this is?!? AMERICA! ENGLISH!” screamed the cashier.

    The Mexican gave him a dirty look and walked back out.

    The cashier looked at me frustrated. I was laughing my ass off. They have a tip jar and I threw some cash in there and said “thank you”.

    If we’re going to have immigrants, we need more like him!

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  221. on February 11, 2009 at 7:38 am DT

    Darn it, I expected a preview and a chance to edit and spell check my post. (I guess previews are for betas.) That should read “…their family is from India.”

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  222. on February 11, 2009 at 7:45 am gig

    If India bordered the US, probably the mexican cashier would demand english instead of hindi from some entitled indian costumer

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  223. on February 11, 2009 at 9:01 am tokyojesusfist

    whiskey:

    FACT: This was born out at Virgina Tech. When Cho went on his rampage, not a single young man found his female classmates worth dying for. It took far older men to do anything at ALL in response. [This was my WTF? Moment. My awakening as it were. You just don’t know how out of whack that response was to male norms in the West since 1000 AD.]

    That’s because everyone is a liberal now, and liberals are huge pussies. They won’t even defend themselves, so helping others is obviously out of the question.

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  224. on February 11, 2009 at 11:11 am Wounded Animal

    That’s because everyone is a liberal now, and liberals are huge pussies. They won’t even defend themselves, so helping others is obviously out of the question.

    This is what gets me thinking I need to live around 95 IQ rednecks instead of 115 IQ SWPL’s.

    What’s really going to be funny, in a sick, watching-a-crane-collapse kind of way, is when Black Jesus gets done wrecking what’s left of the economy and decides to do some legacy building in Africa. He’ll launch his wussified, pussified Social Democratic Freedom Army over there, with a bunch of AA and female fighter pilots and generals. By then of course, all the real soldiers will have left and will be freelancing.

    One positive trend, I’m told, is that gun sales are going thru the roof.

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  225. on February 11, 2009 at 11:56 am Bhetti B

    Your ‘women shouldn’t vote’ comments were blatantly childish and misogynistic, unfounded in any higher thought processes. The behaviour of men invariably makes things worse: look in prisons, look in warzones and look at the history of harmful inventions. Men emotionally delight in revenge while women are more on the empathy side: proven by MRI technology.

    Intelligence, in the end, doesn’t count for much when men only mess shit up for everyone regardless of their reasons for doing so (more likely not based in rationality, more in wanting to blow shit up). By your argument of stupidity, you’d pretty much discount anyone who scored low in an IQ test from voting. Scratch that, voting’s a mistake for 90% of humans! If we’re going to generalise: men are lazy, gambling, thieving, aggressive, immature, useless pieces of meat.

    Of course I know that it’s wrong to call a whole gender that, as should you. Of course there’re good/dumb people, grey area people, bad people/clever people in all genders.

    Any misogyny you express is because you’re only paying attention to the specific group of women (i.e. I assume you’re not sexually attracted to men and not occasionally frustrated by them in the same way). There’re subtle variations across genders but don’t try to get out of it by saying you prefer the slightly different flaws of your brothas. Humans as a race are fatally flawed.

    Even though I know I hate men on a visceral level, I at least try and acknowledge that its not a healthy or accurate feeling; that not all men should suffer the sins of every other man and that every individual human being deserves his own evaluation seperate from the others.

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  226. on February 11, 2009 at 3:18 pm sestamibi

    DT–

    You missed another one: it’s “unfazed”, not “unphased”.

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  227. on February 11, 2009 at 4:27 pm joshrandall

    I dont usually go negative here,but a few thoughts: “Destroy To Create”,not only is your nom de plume idiotic,but you are a slobbering moron. The Iraq war was UNNECESSARY!! That means any “victory” is Pyrrhic to the max. We have a country(Mexico) that is so falling apart,so fucked and so corrupt,that MILLIONS of refugees are straming north to OUR country. Our government welcomes them!! BUT we have to go around the world in a mad project ot oust Saddam and create a new Iraq just so ISRAEL will be more secure. Yes there is the cock-sucking “master-plan” to “stabilize” the mid-east and make everyone into sheet-wearing Boy Scouts. But maybe Israel pouring white phosphorois on Pally children could put a monkey wrench in the works. CHICNOIR,your patience is admirable,’specially with these boys coming on here with,”Grr! I dont like Black women!!!!” Big deal,who asked you,dipshit?? As for Beyonce,I am no great fan but….you mean she couldnt find a black man less UGLY than Jay-Z????WTF?? LOL!!!

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  228. on February 11, 2009 at 4:37 pm DT

    “You missed another one: it’s “unfazed”, not “unphased”.”

    Damn Alpha site with its damn no previews 😉

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  229. on February 11, 2009 at 4:42 pm DT

    Your ‘women shouldn’t vote’ comments were blatantly childish and misogynistic, unfounded in any higher thought processes.

    The more I study politics, economics, game, and human psychology, the more I am inclined to agree that letting women vote was a very bad idea across western civilization.

    Funny thing is about two years ago a naturally alpha friend of mine told me he felt this way. I was shocked and thought he was off his rocker. Nah…he just understood women better than I did.

    Women should build the community. Men should build the state.

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  230. on February 11, 2009 at 4:48 pm chic noir

    Bhetti B
    Even though I know I hate men on a visceral level, I at least try and acknowledge that its not a healthy or accurate feeling; that not all men should suffer the sins of every other man and that every individual human being deserves his own evaluation seperate from the others

    Bhetti B I feel the same way about most men. You could have taken this str8 from my head. The reason I started to visit this blog was to learn more about men. What I’ve learned so far, I don’t like. I think I may need to avoid this blog if I hope to have a normal relationship with some man one day.

    @Whiskey- If I hurt your feelings I apologize. I was simply telling you what I get from the tone of your posts.
    PS- Whitney beat Bobby.

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  231. on February 11, 2009 at 4:55 pm chic noir

    As for Beyonce,I am no great fan but….you mean she couldnt find a black man less UGLY than Jay-Z????WTF?? LOL!!!
    LOL she traded looks for prestige. Lets hope their children look more like Beyonce. From what I’ve read and been told, Jay Z has a very strong pull/aura. He is something of a Clinton/Badu/Obama lite.

    ,”Grr! I dont like Black women!!!!”
    Like water off my back. For some reason that doesn’t bother me. No group is the cat’s meow for everyone. I understand that different people have different tastes. a few of the guys here are not I’m not attracted to Black women but more of the I hate Black women variety. The Maybe because in the real world I’m chased around by a wide variety of men. Let’s keep it real, those who are making those types of statements (hateful types) wouldn’t kick me out of their bed if given the chance.

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  232. on February 11, 2009 at 4:57 pm DT

    The Iraq war was UNNECESSARY!!

    Dealing with Saddam was absolutely necessary, but Bush painted himself into a corner. He demanded full compliance or war. He didn’t give himself any other options, such as limited but increased bombing of Iraqi military and government targets until full compliance was met. That probably would have brought Saddam into full compliance with the UN and prevented a war, but it would have left Saddam in power. The average person doesn’t realize just how big a problem Saddam was to the world community, in many ways having nothing to do with WMDs, and how close a call that was for Bush to make. It’s easy to say the war wasn’t necessary. But remember that the Clinton administration believed eventually a war would be necessary to remove Saddam’s government, and had war plans drawn up to that effect.

    The war was executed brilliantly. It was the occupation that failed at first. If Bush had handled the beginning of the occupation like he handled the end, our troops would be home and everyone but the hard core left would agree that Iraq was a success and the right move to make. Instead Obama will claim victory in Iraq when the troops come home on the timetable Bush built.

    In retrospect Bush should have either been much more serious and careful in handling the occupation and rebuild, or he should have avoided full scale war and just bombed Saddam into submission. At the end of the day though I can’t say I’m sorry Saddam is gone. And Iraq is doing very well now. It’s just not the disaster that liberals paint it to be.

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  233. on February 11, 2009 at 5:09 pm DT

    The reason I started to visit this blog was to learn more about men. What I’ve learned so far, I don’t like.

    One theme I’ve read repeatedly on game sites like this one, and I agree with it 110%, is that male behavior such as game is a reaction to female choices in the sexual market. Women say they want the nice guys, but they choose the alpha males every time. They choose the guys who just don’t give a shit because they’ve got a half dozen other women they’re working on.

    Every time I hear a girl complain “why can’t I meet a nice guy” I feel like hitting something. I know, literally, a dozen nice guys who would treat their women like queens, build good homes and faithfully provide for their families, and they will never get laid much less married.

    I’m trying desperately to change how I relate to women because “nice guy” doesn’t cut it. Period. Some day maybe I’ll post the details of my “ah ha” moment, but it involved behavior that would never come from a “nice guy”. (Basically I acted as cocky funny as I could and took a girl right out from under the arm of her beta fiance! Women are not sugar and spice and everything nice, let me tell you.)

    If you don’t like what you’re learning about men, take a good, long, hard look at your girlfriends.

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  234. on February 11, 2009 at 6:48 pm Mason

    “I know I hate men on a visceral level” — Bhetti B

    Fantastic. If only more women could be as self-reflective. (Many may feel it, but few examine that feeling critically.)

    Hope you post more often.

    “male behavior such as game is a reaction to female choices in the sexual market” –DT

    Yep.

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  235. on February 11, 2009 at 7:58 pm David Alexander

    When Cho went on his rampage, not a single young man found his female classmates worth dying for.

    What’s my incentive to die and leave my family in an emotional wreck to go save somebody else, regardless of sex? It’s one thing to stop a guy with no weapon, it’s another to stop a dude with two semi-automatic pistols.

    And if I die while saving that female, who’s going to rescue my mother from her emotional depression once she finds out that her son is dead. At that point, I have to think about my family, and I’ll have to save my ass.

    Again whiskey, fuck you.

    Any way, while I was trying to pay a Mexican came in and rudely started talking to the cashier in Spanish.

    I work in a roadside assistance call center, and from what I’ve seen, the only group that asks for a person of their own language is usually Hispanics. Everybody else either attempts to explain their needs as best as possible in English, or they have an English speaker do so for them.

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  236. on February 11, 2009 at 8:01 pm David Alexander

    male behavior such as game is a reaction to female choices in the sexual market

    Women are only attracted to alphas. Your choices are limited to aping the alpha, becoming bitter and spiteful or women, or accepting it, and befriending some females to extract the emotional benefits they offer.

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  237. on February 11, 2009 at 8:21 pm Vladimir

    David Alexander:

    Women are only attracted to alphas. Your choices are limited to aping the alpha, becoming bitter and spiteful or women, or accepting it, and befriending some females to extract the emotional benefits they offer.

    It’s interesting how in this regard, you’re a fervent believer in the most extreme biological determinism. Obviously, you’re attracted to this belief because it provides you an effective tactic for continuing the pity party after people have pointed out practical ways to solve your problems.

    However, has it ever occurred to you that by subscribing to this view on this particular issue, you’re indirectly validating the analogous premises of other theories based on biological determinism? Here, of course, I have in mind primarily those that are often touted by certain commenters in this blog, which you, for obvious reasons, find very unsettling.

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  238. on February 11, 2009 at 9:07 pm Chris

    Apologies to all for responding to the troll.

    And if I die while saving that female, who’s going to rescue my mother from her emotional depression once she finds out that her son is dead. At that point, I have to think about my family, and I’ll have to save my ass.

    Well, I don’t know what kind of sad-ass mom you have. What I do know is that if I gave my life to save others, my mom would be PROUD of me.

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  239. on February 11, 2009 at 9:31 pm PA

    Again whiskey, fuck you.

    You never write like that. Where did Whiskey hit a nerve?

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  240. on February 11, 2009 at 9:59 pm Kthulah

    Whiskey, my opinion, while observing the same phenomena, is markedly different.

    I believe that we’re in the situation we’re in now because, as at no other time in the history of western civilization, the common man has been selecting weak women. It takes strong women to have strong sons. Weak women have weak sons.

    This is one reason why, despite all the problems elsewhere, I’m in no big hurry at this point to get back to the U.S. I was born into a generation of spoiled faggots.

    As much as I hate the racism and de facto placage situation here, I would honestly rather be the bitch of a man than the queen of a wuss.

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  241. on February 11, 2009 at 10:40 pm T. AKA Ricky Raw

    What’s my incentive to die and leave my family in an emotional wreck to go save somebody else, regardless of sex? It’s one thing to stop a guy with no weapon, it’s another to stop a dude with two semi-automatic pistols.

    And if I die while saving that female, who’s going to rescue my mother from her emotional depression once she finds out that her son is dead. At that point, I have to think about my family, and I’ll have to save my ass.

    Again whiskey, fuck you.

    I can’t believe I’m saying this, but I agree with DA here. If the guys were going to risk their lives unarmed against a pistol packing lunatic, let it be for their own benefit, not for a bunch of women they don’t even know. Or at least let it be to save others regardless of their gender. But this notion of putting women on a pedestal simply for being women is a big reason why so many Western men grow up beta nowadays to begin with. I think that may actually be the most alpha thing I’ve ever seen you write DA, I think you’re totally right.

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  242. on February 11, 2009 at 10:43 pm T. AKA Ricky Raw

    Well, I don’t know what kind of sad-ass mom you have. What I do know is that if I gave my life to save others, my mom would be PROUD of me.

    He didn’t say his mom wouldn’t be proud of him. He said his mom would be emotionally depressed. That makes her pathetic? Your mom, even if she was proud, do you mean to tell me she wouldn’t also be emotionally depressed?

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  243. on February 11, 2009 at 10:50 pm David Alexander

    You never write like that. Where did Whiskey hit a nerve?

    Admittedly, I’m rather screwy this week (as evidenced by last night’s blog post), but after a while, one does grow sick of Whiskey’s theory that pre-sexual revolution social relationships are the magical cure. I’d much rather have the current set up which gives me sizable freedom with few downsides. If you believe that women are incapable of loving beta males, eventually, Whiskey’s arguments can become grating when he claims that forcing women to abuse beta males is the solution.

    However, has it ever occurred to you that by subscribing to this view on this particular issue, you’re indirectly validating the analogous premises of other theories based on biological determinism?

    As I’ve stated, I lack the inclinations to disprove their depressing “facts”, but I’d merely hope that these facts not spread outward. The whiter people and their shaming techniques are my line of defense from a world guided by race realists.

    Regardless, if my views about alphas and betas end up propping up the arguments of the race realists, then I’ll accept the consequences of that outcome if it can spur acceptance of my ideas.

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  244. on February 11, 2009 at 11:07 pm Kthulah

    T, I’m female, and if I didn’t act to protect others as best as I could in that situation, my parents would be rather ashamed of me.

    Others here have accused me of living in a “feminist fantasy”, but it’s not about that. It’s just what honorable people do, regardless of their gender.

    …but a male, especially a group of them would be more likely to be able to take a single armed male attacker down than a woman.

    Some guys did do something though. They heard gunshots in the hallway, and barricaded the door to their classroom.

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  245. on February 11, 2009 at 11:16 pm T. AKA Ricky Raw

    T, I’m female, and if I didn’t act to protect others as best as I could in that situation, my parents would be rather ashamed of me.

    Yes, but in that situation as an unarmed man amidst all that chaos, what is the best you could do in that situation. I understand if a guy is beating or raping an innocent girl and you can do something, but when a guy is running around shooting EVERYBODY with heavy artillery, you are supposed to risk your life unarmed, and you’re supposed to do it primarily for the sake of women you don’t know, even though everyone is technically a target? I just don’t buy it. Do it because you want to save everyone. Do it to save yourself. Do it because women specifically are being targeted. Do it because you have the power of numbers or you see an opening and can get the drop on the guy. But don’t just do something suicidal for some misplaced chivalry.

    There’s brave and there’s stupid.

    but a male, especially a group of them would be more likely to be able to take a single armed male attacker down than a woman.

    That is true, but it’s quite different than saying an unarmed man should be motivated to take down the gunman primarily for the benefit of women he doesn’t know.

    of course men are better suited to take down a gunman than a woman. And of course if anyone is going to do something, it should be the men and not the women. I just disagree with this notion that they are supposed to be doing all these suicidally stupid gestures specifically first and foremost FOR THE BENEFIT of the women they don’t know, just because they are women.

    Barricading a door is not suicidally stupid, and I’m sure the men involved did it for the benefit of everyone. Stupidly rushing an armed guy head on when he has long range weapons for the sake of women you don’t know is ridiculous.

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  246. on February 11, 2009 at 11:27 pm Chris

    He didn’t say his mom wouldn’t be proud of him. He said his mom would be emotionally depressed. That makes her pathetic? Your mom, even if she was proud, do you mean to tell me she wouldn’t also be emotionally depressed?

    Not to a degree that could justify being a wimp when I’m capable of effectively fighting back.

    (And if I’m not capable of effectively fighting back, but I survive, the only decent response is to learn whatever I need to so that I wouldn’t be helpless if the scenario ever happened again.)

    Responsibility. It’s not part of DA’s vocabulary, but I know it’s part of yours.

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  247. on February 11, 2009 at 11:36 pm Kthulah

    T, nobody is talking head on. Every person has a front and a back.

    It’s not the first shooting spree to ever happen in the U.S. and at that moment, one doesn’t think about who it’s going to benefit to survive. One just thinks of survival.

    What bothers me the most about that whole situation is the fact that in freakin’ *Virginia* there wasn’t adequate security or training of staff for these types of emergencies. My “nation of wimps” sentiment comes more from that than from how the students reacted in the actual chaos. Maybe those guys in that one classroom were indeed the only ones there with the presence of mind to do anything.

    It was just taken for granted that something like that couldn’t happen. People in the U.S. apparently don’t like to deal with reality. They like to watch some bits of it on television that make them feel superior or entertained, but they don’t want anything to interrupt their illusions that they can step on people and ignore mental problems and somehow live in safety despite fostering insanity.

    They want to be able to fuck “hot” chicks indiscriminately, and not catch STD’s or pay child support. They want to goad people into wanting them dead, and open the doors wide open for them to make it so, and not get shot. Goes together.

    Don’t get me wrong. I don’t think the U.S. is the only screwed up place in the world…just that bit of the screwed upness is particularly stupid. Americans want rights and privileges with no responsibility, more than any other nationality I’ve ever met.

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  248. on February 11, 2009 at 11:47 pm T. AKA Ricky Raw

    , nobody is talking head on. Every person has a front and a back.

    It’s not the first shooting spree to ever happen in the U.S. and at that moment, one doesn’t think about who it’s going to benefit to survive. One just thinks of survival.

    What bothers me the most about that whole situation is the fact that in freakin’ *Virginia* there wasn’t adequate security or training of staff for these types of emergencies. My “nation of wimps” sentiment comes more from that than from how the students reacted in the actual chaos. Maybe those guys in that one classroom were indeed the only ones there with the presence of mind to do anything.

    I actually agree with all of this. They should have done something if it was reasonable to do so. if it was an unreasonable risk, they shouldn’t have done anything. What I disagree with is the implication that whatever they should have done and whatever risks they took should have been first and foremost for the behalf of a bunch of women they totally don’t know. Do it because you want to help people in general. Do it for yourself. Do it because you think you have a shot and see an opening. Don’t do it because you want to be Captain Save-a-Ho.

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  249. on February 11, 2009 at 11:53 pm T. AKA Ricky Raw

    Not to a degree that could justify being a wimp when I’m capable of effectively fighting back.

    I agree, but key words being when you’re capable of effectively fighting back. And if you are capable of fighting back, do it for yourself or do it for everyone because everyone is being threatened, or if its some yahoo who is just targeting women and you can effectively fight back, THEN do it for the women.

    But Whiskey seems to be suggesting that in a situation where you can’t effectively fight back, and where everyone is being targeted, not just women, you should take an impossible risk just to protect the women in the crowd. What if there were just men in the crowd and your chances of effectively fighting back were slim. Then would it be okay to not fight back?

    Last night, for example, I was in a near empty bar with a female bartender and a few random people. Some homeless guy who was drunk and really high on something came in and looked like he was going to start trouble with the female bartender. I intervened and threw him out on her behalf when he started becoming threatening. I could effectively intervene, and as a woman she was at a distinct disadvantage. I did it because she was weaker, she was specifically being targeted and needed protection and because i was in a place to effectively do something about it. It was a reasonable risk. If she was a wimpy beta male instead of a woman I’d have done the same thing, because he was weaker, a specific target and because it was a reasonable risk.

    But doing something stupid specifically because you want to put strange women on a pedestal like Whiskey suggests I disagree with. There are better reasons.

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  250. on February 12, 2009 at 5:06 am DT

    David Alexander,

    Women are only attracted to alphas. Your choices are limited to aping the alpha, becoming bitter and spiteful or women, or accepting it, and befriending some females to extract the emotional benefits they offer.

    Emotional benefits?

    Wait a minute, let me check my posts…nope, I never said I had a pussy. So what the hell would I want with emotional benefits? If all I needed were emotional benefits, I would buy a dog.

    Sorry David, I can’t join your pity party “no woman will ever love me” strike. I can’t live with hugs from women who barely touch me while hugging me, holding their pelvis away from mine during the hug. I just can’t give up like that. I want the hug that involves her pelvis grinding into mine, her leg rubbing against mine, and her hand in my hair while she whispers “f#ck me” into my ear. THAT’S what I call an emotional benefit.

    Now that I understand what I’ve been doing wrong all these years (and what I did right the few times I scored), I’ve got to try. And no, I don’t think of it as being someone I’m not. I think of it as improving myself. I had the misfortune of growing up after the feminization of America. I needed to learn the truth about the sexes, and learn to man up. Instead I learned a bunch of BS. Game is part of the process of being what I should have been to begin with. And it’s not just for me, it’s for the future women I meet. Because another theme I’ve picked up at sites like this, and noticed in my real life, is that women are desperate for men.

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  251. on February 12, 2009 at 5:10 am DT

    Kthulah

    I believe that we’re in the situation we’re in now because, as at no other time in the history of western civilization, the common man has been selecting weak women. It takes strong women to have strong sons. Weak women have weak sons.

    Sorry, women can’t make strong sons. It takes a man to raise a strong son. We’ve had women pretending to be strong, pretending they don’t even need men, while men are raised to be weak, and that’s our problem. When a man is even around to play dad today, he’s all too often a weak beta who doesn’t even know what to teach his son to be a man.

    I remember having a debate with my aunt about my cousin’s son (single mom) who was getting in trouble a lot. My aunt thought it was because my cousin wasn’t putting her foot down. I tried to explain to my aunt that she could put her foot down through the ground to China and it wouldn’t make a difference. Teenage boys don’t fear mom. I wasn’t a bad kid, but even in my life I can clearly remember that by my teen years I loved mom but didn’t fear her authority one bit. It was dad who demanded my attention and kept me in line.

    Sons need fathers, real men who will draw the lines and set the limits. Women can’t carry out that task effectively no matter what feminist studies teach.

    That’s something I saw and realized myself long before discovering anything about game.

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  252. on February 12, 2009 at 5:15 am DT

    I should clarify this line from a previous post:

    Because another theme I’ve picked up at sites like this, and noticed in my real life, is that women are desperate for men.

    Should read: Because another theme I’ve picked up at sites like this, and noticed in my real life, is that women are desperate for men, not the boys they are stuck with.

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  253. on February 12, 2009 at 10:43 am David Alexander

    So what the hell would I want with emotional benefits? If all I needed were emotional benefits, I would buy a dog.

    Maybe you’re different, but female friends have been a prop to my emotional health in a way that male friends don’t offer. Dogs don’t talk back, but female friends will hug you and make you feel happy and wanted. Not sexually wanted, but just accepted in general.

    I want the hug that involves her pelvis grinding into mine, her leg rubbing against mine, and her hand in my hair while she whispers “f#ck me” into my ear.

    IMHO, that’s not a hug at that point, but a girl attempting to make out with you. It’s a totally different emotional support.

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  254. on February 12, 2009 at 11:46 am Kthulah

    Sorry, DT, but since women do the bulk of child rearing up to puberty, I don’t see how being a weak mom is okay…especially since in many “primitive” cultures, more women die in childbirth, and one can find herself raising a relative or friend’s kids along with their own quite easily. If her husband dies, she’s also got to be fit enough to find another, or make sure her kids don’t suffer or miss out because of it.

    Historically, whether a culture was patriarchal or matriarchal or somewhere in between, women were required to be strong for very good reasons.

    Now, in western cultures, they’re not.

    Your answer to my post about part of the problem being *men selecting* for weakness is evidence of this. You somehow think that as long as the man is “strong”, that’s enough. It’s not and it never has been.

    Beauty used to be a lioness. Now it’s a hairless housecat.

    Hairless housecats don’t make lions. The raw truth of the matter, which I have plenty of personal experience to attest to, is that the human equivalent of a housecat can’t even be fucked properly by a lion type.

    Those three women I mentioned awhile back…they’re not my friends. They’re all “hot” women whose husbands are trying to get into my pants. They’ve been trying since I was 80 lbs. heavier than I am now. One of the husbands and I used to mess around before he got married. He thought he could do better. Now he’s being berated daily by a woman who’s half his size and insisting on raising their sons to be pussies who have to have everything they want, and can’t be told no without her going behind his back.

    All these guys’ kids are going to be spoiled like their moms. Unless one of them has the independence of thought to realize they’re being smothered and controlled, they won’t grow up to have the good sense to think when they’ve bribed and nepotized their way into their position into perhaps the board of education, that any moves to remove the security guards from schools should be put down.

    I’ve even experienced some rather scary things from guys who believed that they were at least socially superior to me…trying to get me pregnant, insisting on monogamy…stuff that shouldn’t come up if a guy thinks a woman is beneath him, right? It’s not just me. I’ve heard similar things from women of a similar body/personality type combination.

    Even strippers who are stronger make more money.

    Why?

    Because instinctively, men go for variety, and when they have a choice, they generally select for real beauty, which includes strength and actual superior attitude, not social superiority. It has been said time and again, that a woman’s income and social status mean nothing to a penis.

    So how did men get convinced to select the weak for commitment?

    Feminism. They teach you that you’re obligated to respect women because they have a vagina, and not because they’ve done something to earn your respect. From there it’s easy to manipulate you into selecting for traits that won’t require that a woman be able to lift and carry a human being up to 55 lbs, or be able to resist freaking out on you just because she has cramps.

    You were mostly raised from a safe distance, pushed around in strollers, and had to cry for half an hour to get fed or your diaper changed. So you were programmed from the cradle to value superficial values over actual needs.

    This is why you think you’re going to have heroes from breeding with brats.

    …not that I’m really complaining so much. Whatever keeps the weak in their place is fine by me. Problem is that when things are this confused, and people don’t do what ought to come naturally to them, women like me can’t just be women. We have to be more consciously selective and sometimes purposefully cruel, and end up feeling a similar thing to nice guys who also realize things are screwed up.

    After a guy has been used and abused by Ms. Narrow-ass, I’m not willing to pick up the pieces of his broken, wasted youth, and I’m damn sure not going to take the crumbs.

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  255. on February 12, 2009 at 12:22 pm PA

    Beauty used to be a lioness. Now it’s a hairless housecat.

    There is something in that observation that Peter finds very depressing.

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  256. on February 12, 2009 at 12:37 pm Kthulah

    PA, I’ve been meaning to ask you something, out of curiosity, since back during the Olympic girls thread.

    Your preference for small tits…is it just a small boobs thing, or is there a nice somewhat visible pecs thing in there too?

    A friend of my mom’s some time back, was considering getting a boob job, and I was against it. She was a AA cup. I’d seen the boobs of older female martial artists in the locker room, and I told her all she really needed to do were some pushups and butterflies to support them…not so much. A girl can do maybe 20 pushups and 3 sets of 8 butterflies with something like 7 lbs. weights, and maintain very well.

    She got the boob job anyway, but I thought it was quite a shame to get surgery for something that could be dramatically improved through exercise.

    I’m just wondering for the data files, and the sake of anyone else I speak to who’s thinking of making the surgery mistake, what guys who like perky small boobs like to see. Is it just the smallness of the fatty area, or is it also the musculature of the feminine chest?

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  257. on February 12, 2009 at 1:04 pm PA

    Kthulah, yes, I strongly prefer small breasts to large ones. I even find flat ones incredibly erotic, like on the actress Charlotte Gainsbourgh (daughter of two very sexy individuals, Serge Gainsbourgh and Jane Birkin)

    It’s an interesting question about the pectotral muscles underneath. I never thought about that, so it’s hard to answer. I’m not against a healthy musculature in and of itself, as long as it doesn’t become downright bulky.

    As far as boob jobs — very strongly against them. Unless it’s reconstructive surgery after cancer or something, I consider inserting implants as an act of self-disfigurement.

    The way I understand it though, women don’t get implants so much to impress men, but to one-up other women. Could that have been a motive with your mom’s friend?

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  258. on February 12, 2009 at 1:34 pm ScotchFiend

    For those folks who liked my big comment early on American and Western decline, I’ve written an essay on my blog on civil defense:

    Our Negligent Civil Defense and Ideas for Improvement

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  259. on February 12, 2009 at 4:28 pm Kthulah

    @PA

    Ah… Charlotte Gainsbourg is a prime example of a well developed, small breasted woman. She has a bit of a tomboy look some guys might not like, but in terms of raw natural beauty, she’s a 10 in my opinion. It doesn’t get much better than that without makeup.

    She has very sturdy limbs, and one could easily imagine her easily pulling up maniocs, ordering around a bunch of kids, or chasing off an errant tapir.

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  260. on February 12, 2009 at 4:31 pm Kthulah

    @PA

    Ah… Charlotte Gainsbourg is a prime example of a well developed, small breasted woman. She has a bit of a tomboy look some guys might not like, but in terms of raw natural beauty, she’s a 10 in my opinion. It doesn’t get much better than that without makeup.

    She has very sturdy limbs, and one could easily imagine her easily pulling up maniocs, ordering around a bunch of kids, or chasing off an errant tapir.

    About my mom’s friend, it probably was one-upmanship to some degree. I don’t know how much though.

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  261. on February 12, 2009 at 5:56 pm DT

    ScotchFiend

    For those folks who liked my big comment early on American and Western decline, I’ve written an essay on my blog on civil defense:

    Loved the comment, looking forward to the blog post. Thanks!

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  262. on February 12, 2009 at 10:35 pm ScotchFiend

    @DT

    Thanks for the compliment, your Southern California anecdote yesterday and your other keen observations.

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  263. on February 12, 2009 at 10:45 pm ScotchFiend

    @ScotchFiend at 2/10 11:39pm

    But I don’t see our modern situation comparable to the historic one. In the past we didn’t have executive orders FORCING the government (i.e. the chump taxpayers) to pay for translation services into ANY language. Historically, this was the responsibility of the immigrant community.

    I wanted to correct my statement from yesterday because I made it sound like Executive Order 13166 ONLY applied to government. In fact it can apply to non-government entities that wish to do business with the government:

    See: Executive Order 13166 LINK

    From the LINK above (italics are mine):

    With a quick stroke of his pen, then President William J. Clinton signed Executive Order 13166 into law on August 11, 2000. With that act, the federal government became officially multilingual, requiring any entity receiving federal monies to provide services in any language. Private physicians, clinics, and hospitals that accept Medicare and Medicaid must provide, at their own expense, translators for any language spoken by any patient.

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  264. on February 13, 2009 at 12:33 pm Bhetti B

    DT: I study/follow some of the same subjects and I could easily conclude it is a mistake to allow men to do anything at all, or even exist. It’s all about perspective, isn’t it?

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  265. on February 14, 2009 at 8:33 pm chic noir

    DT Sons need fathers, real men who will draw the lines and set the limits. Women can’t carry out that task effectively no matter what feminist studies teach.
    I agree 100% the average forty year old 5’4 American woman will not put much fear into the heart of her 16 six feet tall son. Size, height, gender are all intimidating factors. Besides, a son needs and wants his father around. Children who don’ t have a relationship with one or both of their birth parents tend to feel that somehow they are at fault for their parent(s) not wanting them.

    When talking to other women, I notice those who are very petite(5 feet size 0) have more weird experiences with strange men, than women who taller and sturdier looking like myself(5’9.5 size 6) . The rare instances I run across a random idiot on the subway/metro, he is always much larger than the average man(6’2+ 220lbs). On the forums, I can predict the body size of the women posting just from reading about her type of experience with Joe weirdo.

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  266. on February 14, 2009 at 9:00 pm Kthulah

    Happy Valentine’s day, Obsidian…well, belated by the time you get back to reading this. 😉

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  267. on February 16, 2009 at 1:16 am Geezus

    “Bush truly fucked America because the second that single women don’t have a strong alpha, political figure is the second they turn into teenage girls at the voting booth.”

    Obama IS a strong alpha, political figure. He carries a big stick but speaks softly.

    This site is full of pathetic loser men who are worshipping an even bigger loser. Good luck with that homies.

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  268. on September 9, 2009 at 9:14 pm jh

    ““Goddamn I’m glad I live in Texas.”

    Amen. I had a buddy living in my hometown in Texas. Sold some recreational bud on the side. Two brothas and one of their hood-rats bust in his door one night wanting his money. One held a gun to his girl’s head. My buddy was in the back room, got his shotgun, and blasted one of the motherfuckers in the chest. True story. We need more of that.”

    It’s amazing how a quick post can quickly sum up everything that makes most people in Texas so awful:

    – expecting to be able to do whatever they want, whenever they want to (especially when it comes to violence.)

    – not giving a shit about another person (brilliant move by your buddy there. How easily could that’ve gotten his girlfriend’s head blown off? )

    – utter stupidity (once again, his action could’ve easily led to his g/f dying

    – and, above all, the usual arrogance of “Texas is better”

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