February 16, 2009 by CH
Word on the street is…
Valentine’s Day is the new New Year’s Eve. Any single girls are feeling the sting of loneliness on this day in technicolor sensation, and of those fortitudinal enough to brave going out with their girlfriends and thereby announcing to the world their singledom, the horniness is strong in them.
Like shooting bitches in a barrel.
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True story….. that is all
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I’ll just repeat myself from the last thread:
“Did anyone else find last night to be a complete gong show? Valentine’s Day on a Saturday night. Tons of lonely girls wanting validation. Damn that was an education in female desire. I walked out with a few make outs and whole fist full of number closes.”
It was fucking nuts. The horniness was indeed strong, but most of the girls were completely shit faced.
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the worst part is we did this to ourselves. our desire for romantic tokens of affection to validate our sense of worth and desirability from men coupled with the shameless shove-it-down-our-throats marketing from jewelry stores and hallmark combine to equal total disaster.
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Hi Roissy – Long time, First Time, Off topic.
Check this out – Why the world NEEDS Betas (in their rightful place of course)
http://www.thatslife.com.au/article.asp?ArticleID=1574&Pid=1
An Australian woman with no limbs
“It wasn’t until I met Steve*, 20, at a local club that I felt I’d found my soul mate. ‘Does my disability bother you?’ I’d asked.
He shook his head. ‘Your disability is part of what’s made you the woman I love.’ Life felt perfect and, in February 1995, at 21, I skated down the aisle to become Steve’s wife. There was just one problem. We couldn’t have kids.”
Now she has 2 young sons – who no doubt will be raised as Betas to look after their disabled mum in her old age.
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Avoid referring to women as bitches — or, to state the rule generally, avoid behaving in the manner of a Negro. Beta in the extreme.
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Avoid referring to women as bitches
i needed a word that was homophonic with fish.
ps why so serious?
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“Avoid behaving in the manner of a Negro”? And, exactly *how* do “Negroes” behave?
Please explain?
For what it’s worth, as a rule, I don’t refer to Women as “bitches”.
O
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I had a lovely valentines day with my beautiful, north american girlfriend! Roissy, try PENIS!
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Completely off topic, but take a look at this pic. It’s from a top model who is actually very, very hot. See if you can guess who it is.
BTW she was 20 when the pic was taken in 2002.
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razorback – “It’s like shooting bitches in a barrel.”
Couldn’t have put it closer to the truth.
So women are extra fishy on Valentine’s Day?
I’ll have to remember that.
Seems like any other day to me. It’s a fake holiday and I didn’t notice anything different about women.
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“Like shooting bitches in a barrel.”
We used to call it:
“Like hunting a baited field” twenty years ago.
With “Valnetines” being in the air, the game will be no different though:
EVERY WOMAN WANTS A BAD BOY SHE CAN TAME, AND EVERY MAN WANTS A GOOD GIRL HE CAN CORRUPT.
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Thursday – Completely off topic, but take a look at this pic.
Don’t know who it is but she looks like hell. Bad genetics there.
Here’s more.
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Mischa looks disgusting… I dumped my last girlfriend for cellulite that doesn’t look half that bad. jesus…
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And best place to be for Valentines in the USA?
Miami Beach.
– MPM
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Here’s an offering I found online discussing the sad-assedness of beta husbands:
http://www.marieclaire.com/sex-love/relationship-issues/articles/beta-husband
It’s a somewhat interesting insight into the mind of woman and her disgust for her beta husband. It kind of falls apart at the end b/c I have a feeling her *new* relationship will go the way of her old one.
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VD is for amateurs, as NYE is to drinkers.
Bitches read Cosmo and watch TV. They know the ‘circling wolfpack’ of sausage will respond to the chum bait.
They play even harder. Even fugs get tude
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Yeah, Chuck, this kind of woman will always find something wrong with the man after a while. She probably sleeps with her boss, or other men at work anyway. She simply has a desire to dominate, which although unattractive to most men, is pretty common in women.
This is why I recommend that men look inside themselves and ask what they want. If it’s congruent with what the woman wants, then great, but otherwise tell her to take as hike.
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Patrick, even I must admit to a ripple across my ethics on V-day. Fortunately, it was just a ripple.
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@ Chuck:
That marieclaire article was just about the saddest most fucked up thing I’ve read this month.
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Willard, that’s a print from the chair she was laying on, I think. She doesn’t look old or anorexic enough to have that kind of skin wrinkling.
The only time I’ve seen that kind of wrinkling on a young woman who eats is from burns, and hers don’t look like scars.
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http://www.marieclaire.com/sex-love/relationship-issues/articles/beta-husband
That guy is OMEGA. Couldn’t find a job for THREE YEARS. That is beyond beta. That man wanted a sugar mamma, not a wife. What kind of man can’t find a job for three years. He could be the manager of a damned Wendy’s or something. Forget that useless liberal art degree that allows you to quote passages from James Joyce and pontificate on whether Sherlock Holmes novels are colonialist or whatnot. Get a friggin’ job.
As Chris Rock says, when a man loses his job, he is about to lose his woman.
Although the woman says “Its alright, we will just have to make some changes”, the changes her reptilian mind -really- means are you.
At least the schmuck is so broke he probably doesn’t have to pay child support. No woman is going to respect a man of anywhere near physical equality if he is not making money at something. The only “kept” men are young men with old women, and who wants that icky arrangement?
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Mischa Bartone is pretty from the waist up, but those cottage cheese legs and ass are hard to take.
I remember a Spenser novel by the great Robert B. Parker in which he described a newbie woman at the gym who had achieved what he thought impossible, “she was both skinny and fat at the same time” and “had achieved a state of having almost no muscle tone whatsoever”.
Bartone’s physique is the result of not doing anything physical at all. She needs to buy a stair machine and hit that thing about half an hour every other day for a few months and eat plenty of protien while cutting the carbs way back. In a few months she might look a little better down there. Her leg-genetics aren’t really good, but with work improvement could certainly be made. This isn’t, (OF COURSE) what she will do however. She will probably just starve herself further making her face look cavernous and ruining the best asset she has because she will be either to lazy to excercise or afraid (through so much propaganda) that it will make her “masculine”.
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Chuck, in some parts of the world, especially in west Africa, it’s very normal for dads to take care of the kids above nursing age. The markets are run mostly by women, and farming is done mostly by women in these places.
In many cases throughout Africa, guys who can afford to be, are polygamous, but part of the reason they can afford it is because all their wives are working. It’s expected because it’s considered women’s job to nurse their kids and men’s job to educate them.
Modern life hasn’t changed this. Even when people have modern jobs, it’s often women out there working, and dad at home caring for and educating the kids. This is especially crucial if the family is literate, but there isn’t accessible primary school. Sometimes though, they just feel more comfortable home schooling because it’s their tradition. Many Africans have issues with a government controlled education. Since entrance in universities is based on psychometric exams and other standardized testing, it’s not uncommon at all for African students to have never set foot in a gradeschool or high school.
This is how my parents did things until my mom went through a phase similar to the woman in this article. My dad was a musician, so he could be at home with me when my mom wasn’t. She also had health problems when I was a baby, so it worked out very well.
I don’t see how a guy being an active father is not something to be proud of. I see it as the best kind of “old school”. These women who look down on a man for wanting to be the final authority in their kids’ lives are being stupid, and they don’t see what they’re doing to their kids.
They’re screwing up their emotional health and their education. My mom found that out the hard way, and my dad says if he had to do it over, when my mom told him to get a real job, he’d have told her he already has one.
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to state the rule generally, avoid behaving in the manner of a Negro. Beta in the extreme.
you’re an idiot. negro behavior as a rule of thumb is generally more alpha than caucasian behavior. if you saidbehaving in the manner of a negro is tacky as hell i’d give you props for a good observation, but negro behavior as “beta in the extreme?” you just outed yourself as a clueless dope. shut the fuck up and never chime in again.
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Bartone’s physique is the result of not doing anything physical at all.
If you watch the Victoria’s Secret Fashion Shows you will notice that the dancers have much better butts than all but a handful of the models, even though the latter are some of the most genetically gifted women on the planet. If you are an ass man like Roissy, my advice is to get in with some dancers.
BTW the girl I put up is both a VS and an SI Swimsuit model. SI only shoots her from the front and VS always seems to give her something to cover her ass on the runway. Another view.
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I’d hit it.
(I’m talking about the limbless chick).
Giggedy.
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About the limbless chick: I wonder if men are more likely to have these crazy fetishes (e.g., amputation fetish) to ensure that even the freaky women can procreate.
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Kthulah:
The problem with this guy is more the fact that he was a stay-at-home dad but didn’t *own* his position. By that I mean that he was himself unhappy with where he was in life. He placed zero value on himself and his wife obliged.
If he wanted to be a stay-at-home dad, he should have done it, no questions asked, and been the best stay-at-home dad he could be. Instead he writhed in self-pity; the true mark of a beta.
The West Africans you speak of have this social construction ingrained in their fabric. For whatever reasons, for good or bad, those constructs don’t exist in this country for the most part. This sad-ass beta knows that he doesn’t fit into what is deemed normal, therefore he feels guilt and worthlessness for it. As well he should.
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Yeah, that article about the sub-beta husband was bad. I can’t blame her for leaving a lazy guy who won’t get a job, but, imagine if a guy wrote about his righteous dumping of his lazy wife who would’t get a job? And, taking away their daughter. That would be considered a hate crime.
Her attitude was shameful. She left because she didn’t “respect him.” Women are really awful, when you come right down to it.
Any man who gets married is just asking for a total screw over. Guys, get a life! If you believe what Roissy is telling you, marriage for you will very likely be a bad experience.
That would be a good blog post for Roissy. Advice to betas on how to marry, or whether they should marry. What kind of girl should a beta look for in a long term relationship? How to handle her short of just playing tight game, something which most betas can’t or won’t do. Well Roissy, how about it?
Hey, about “acting Negro.” I know how alpha those black guys are. 80% of the black children in Baltimore are without a father of record. That’s just so alpha.
If it weren’t for us betas and the @#$% law, all those babies would either be dead of starvation or being raised by their ex-alpha fathers. Being alpha is easy when you don’t take any responsibility for your actions. The moment you subordinate your desires and pleasures for the benefit of your family you are demoted to betatude.
In the same vein, if a man gives too much money in a given year to his “adult” children ie. children still living on his dime, going through school until they are in their upper 20’s, the IRS will hit him with penalties. If a man gives nothing to his minor children, if in fact he denies them everything, including his name, the govt just shrugs.
Our society is sick. This blog is a reflection of that sickness.
Not that I mind.
Think how beneficial it would be for our society if this blog were required reading for all 8th grade boys. I sure wish I had been exposed to this information in the 8th grade.
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Joel — Education is controlled by women. So that will never happen.
Ktuhah — West African styles of parentage, i.e. weak polygamy, result in minimal investment by fathers, with uncertain parentage, and a violent, Big Man society.
See: any Black Ghetto, the White British Underclass, any West African hell-hole where people chop off limbs for fun.
You get what you pay for, always.
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Willard the Keyboard Alpha:
You’re right. When I wrote that, I didn’t realize that single women (I mean “bitches” – alpha term) don’t feel comparatively lonely to their taken friends on this sweet and special day.
That’s awesome that you can fuck any girl you want at any time. Do you run bootcamps?
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Kthulah,
You’re right. In West Africa women do most of the work, farming, etc.
However, it is NOT the case that dads take care of the kids above nursing age. The dads are marginally involved in their kids’ lives, certainly much less than dads in the West and Asia. If you consider this minimal involvement to be caretaking, you’re just being delusional and/or intellectually dishonest.
Also, you wrote, “It’s expected because it’s considered women’s job to nurse their kids and men’s job to educate them.”
You are joking about the men educating their kids bit, right??
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here, roissy. Buy your girlfriend something nice, tell her to make you happy and then you post happy entry.
ai ai, o amor…
Besos.
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Whiskey and Dev, all of Africa is not the Congo.
All of Israel isn’t the borders of the occupied territories.
Open your eyes.
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You don’t know the guy, Chuck. All you saw is what the bitch of a wife wrote. In all likelihood, she shoved him into the role of caretaker so that she could go to work and stuff her wallet, and when he resisted – even if somewhat pathetically – she dumped his ass for a guy who would do what she wanted.
This is your typical, modern American woman.
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Chuck, that’s the bit I find really disturbing. With all the freedom and gender flexibility we’re *supposed* to have nowadays, it somehow didn’t make the majority more flexible or more practical.
One would think, if feminists had done such a great job of promoting real equality in value, the value of being a stay at home parent would have increased across genders…but it hasn’t. Strangely, conservative males are the ones valuing stay at home parenting the most. Even of the somewhat hippy sort of people who believe in Buddhism and dads working at home, have men who want legal freedom, but who rule in their homes. Funny that.
My dad was kind of artsy, but macho. Most of the stay at home dads are working, but more flexible hours than their wives, or single dads with small businesses and such. These guys are pretty butch for the most part…even some of the Gay ones.
I also think if the guy was happier with himself, things might have gone differently, but it’s a big might. It didn’t seem like his wife was doing much to help him in that area. She says she later got with another stay at home dad, but I wonder if that’s more because she realized her previous stupidity, not because the new guy is supposedly more confident.
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Pupu imagines herself floating atop a pool of blood inside a barrel. She would have peacefully sunk to the bottom of the barrel if she had worked out more.
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I heard that Pupu is a he. Is that true?
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Welmer:
True. I don’t what their actual life was like, but I’ll have to assume it’s somewhat close to how she depicted it. There is no information given for me to assume otherwise. She very well could have been a bitch, but I can just as easily assume that the guy was just being lazy and not living up to his potential thus frustrating his wife and himself. No woman wants to be married to a man who wallows in self-pity, as depicted in the article, and no man should expect a woman to love him if he does.
It sounds to me like he was hoping unconditional love would prevail, and as Obsidian informed David Alexander yesterday, it does not.
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Kthulah,
You specified west Africa, and I was referring to west Africa. I was not talking about all of Africa. Certainly not about North Africa, or East Africa, which are both ethnically and culturally different from west Africa.
I’m not sure if I’m the one that needs to open my eyes on this one.
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Valentine’s Day was not what I expected. I went out to a club as I was working there and by and large it was mostly single women who were decidedly not depressed as far as I could tell. I expected to see more couples and single men looking for single women. Where were the guys?
We had the dj to ourselves and had a really good time. Where is this depression and loneliness roissy harps on ad nauseam? There must be something seriously wrong with me, cuz I can’t seem to find it.
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The interesting thing about that Marie Claire beta story is that, if the writer is telling the truth, she didn’t start out viewing her husband as a beta. That is, she really was sexually attracted to him, rather than seeing him as a “nice-guy” type whom she married out of desperation. She also married another stay-at-home father, and seems to find him as desirable as she once found her first husband. So it sounds as if the poor beta may have beta-ized himself, perhaps through self-pity or being too lackadaisical about finding work or helping out in the house.
I doubt that she’s lying about her physical attraction to either man. Women who aren’t attracted to their husbands tend to talk about how kind or thoughtful they are. Just as women who aren’t attracted to a prospective date or male friend will tell him what a “nice guy” he is.
Doesn’t justify that awful wife, though. She sounds truly horrible.
Clio
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Next week: Mardi Gras! Too bad Roissy can’t muster plane fare to Brazil.
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The bar scene was a shit show on Saturday. Lots of annoying, douchey guys out to score, and the quality of girls seemed significantly lower than on a typical weekend night. I’m guessing it’s because 1). most hot girls have boyfriends, and so are otherwise occupied on V-Day, and 2). the decent single ones aren’t desperate or depressed, so opt to stay home or hang out with girlfriends to avoid the rampaging hornballs. But if you were looking to score a 4,5, or 6, I have no doubt Valentine’s Day is easy pickins’.
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PA,
Pupu is a gal. There is no mistake about it.
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Swing and a miss for me last night, tragically.
Chuck is right about the dude in the marieclaire article. There is nothing inherently emasculating about being a stay-at-home-dad. Unless of course, you think that not having a job makes you less of a man.
For example, I am broke as fuck. Do I give a shit? Not really. And as a result neither do the girls I date, which at present includes a 6-figure salary management consultant and a 20 year old whose dad’s net worth is just south of $100m. I would jump at the opportunity to be a stay-at-home-dad, (minus the whole “dad” part) with a high-earning woman. Buddy from the article fucked up by going all woe-is-me, feeling sorry for himself and basically acting like a little pussy.
If I were in his position, I would hire a nanny so I could spent my days playing hockey and posting comments on subversive blogs. And I would bang the nanny. This is not about a woman leaving a man because he was unemployed. She left him because he became (or remained) a little bitch.
Cheers
Zdeno
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Yum, I taste some mighty fine GNP.
Peter
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Pupu is clearly male, and thus pretty weird. There is no mistake about it.
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Zdeno,
Are you saying that from your woman’s instinct?
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First, how many of you have children?
If the wife had her full-time job, do you think the husband had ANY TIME? Especially if the child was very young, i.e. a “toddler” like she said.
You think you can take care of a two-year-old and work at the same time? You are on crack if you think so. If the wife didn’t want to spring for daycare, she has no right at all to complain about her husband not working. Sounds to me like she was just plain selfish, and didn’t want to take care of her own child. If she had run the household, her husband could have found a job — maybe not a high-paying one, but something. If she had paid for babysitting he could have found a job. She DIDN’T WANT TO DO EITHER.
Don’t you people get it? This woman is a selfish bitch, plain and simple.
Look what she did:
She left her husband, and then, realizing she couldn’t hack childcare herself – or didn’t want to – rationalizes finding another man to take care of her child while she works. Now her daughter has been removed from her father, who is probably suffering terribly from all this.
And she is justifying her choice with “sex appeal.”
What an utter, abominable whore.
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“If the wife didn’t want to spring for daycare, she has no right at all to complain about her husband not working. Sounds to me like she was just plain selfish, and didn’t want to take care of her own child. If she had run the household, her husband could have found a job — maybe not a high-paying one, but something. If she had paid for babysitting he could have found a job. She DIDN’T WANT TO DO EITHER.”
I view this situation differently. On this board we chastise the woman for all of her shortfalls and bitchiness, but at some point, as men, we have to stand up for ourselves and grow a pair. I can’t say this is the most ideal situation for any man to be in, but how the hell could he not find a job for several years? If he was toiling away making films, being an independent film maker, he could be forgiven, but it sounds like he used taking care of a toddler as a passive-aggressive excuse to complain about his plight.
Unless she truly is evil, and I don’t get the feeling that she is, I doubt that if the husband would have said “hey, let’s put the kid in day care so I can go on some job interviews” that she would have said no. My mother raised me and my brother on a social worker’s salary but still found ways to handle her responsibilities to improve the life of herself and her kids. If this guy really wanted a job, he should have taken the bull by the horns and found one. If he didn’t want a job and was fine being “Daddy Daycare” he should have done it, done it well with no excuses for his choice of “career”, and not used that as a ploy to guilt his wife.
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“Chuck, in some parts of the world, especially in west Africa, it’s very normal for dads to take care of the kids above nursing age. The markets are run mostly by women, and farming is done mostly by women in these places.
In many cases throughout Africa, guys who can afford to be, are polygamous, but part of the reason they can afford it is because all their wives are working. It’s expected because it’s considered women’s job to nurse their kids and men’s job to educate them.
Modern life hasn’t changed this. Even when people have modern jobs, it’s often women out there working, and dad at home caring for and educating the kids. This is especially crucial if the family is literate, but there isn’t accessible primary school. Sometimes though, they just feel more comfortable home schooling because it’s their tradition. Many Africans have issues with a government controlled education. Since entrance in universities is based on psychometric exams and other standardized testing, it’s not uncommon at all for African students to have never set foot in a gradeschool or high school.”
According to this West Africans live in some sort of pimpish matrichy.
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there are times when i go and i wish to see the whole “bitches in a barrel, being shot”
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I’d just like to note that “negro behavior”-if by that it is meant, the current out of wedlock birthrate in Black America-is a *recent* thing in historical terms. Most estimates tie it to the Great Society programs of the latter 1960s. Prior to that Black dads were involved w/their kids in numbers comparable to Whites, despite blatant discrimination, segregation and out and out racism, to say nothing of the very real threat of violence that came w/living under such terrifying conditions.
So, I’m having a bit of trouble understanding what is meant by “negro behavior”. Would MLK be indicative of “negro behavior”? Or Jackie Robinson? Or Carter G Woodson?
Look, I don’t deny the deep and serious problems that beset Black America, but let’s not get it twisted-it was “negro behavior” that showed America its better self.
So…gentlemen…let’s refrain from such ugly commentary…
And actually discuss something a bit more productive? Hmm?
The Obsidian
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Michelle Obama = Angry Klingon
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More productive?
Ya, like finding and Kidnapping David Alexander, and pumping him full of Testosterone, Tequlia, and Meth, and letting a buncha Juvies in Boystown mexico rub their hot cootchies all over him, until he breaks.
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Why on earth do you doubt that? Have you ever been married?
It could well have gone something like this:
“Honey, if we get daycare it will be a lot easier for me to get back on my feet and find a job.”
“Why should I pay for daycare when you aren’t working? Just get on the phone and find a job. By the way, I want you to pick up my dry cleaning tomorrow afternoon, and make sure not to leave crap lying around like today.”
In the meanwhile, the guy is thinking “I’ve got to put up with this shit and I don’t even get laid?”
Seriously, Chuck, you don’t know how bad it can be until you get married to the wrong woman.
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Re the Marie Claire beta stay at home dad story.
I have a lot of interweaving reactions to the story. First of all let me say I only necessarily believe the bare facts of the story and not that there’s much of any searching attempt on her part to be fair or tell the full story or let herself in any way look bad. She’s done the maximum possible to brighten herself up at every turn. I do not sense self revelation or honesty here. At all.
Having said that the basic problem is that she lost respect and hence sexual attraction for her husband when, as she puts it, he failed to act like a man in their relationship/partnership. I share the view of some commenters that her new relationship with another stay a home dad, albeit one who “owns” that role, is destined for sterility and then well, see below, in short order.
The gender inequality of this situation is striking. A man who lost attraction for his wife because her world became narrowed and she was unable to get a job while having to be the caretaker for infants and toddlers, esp. if he was unwilling to pay for childcare or in fact didn’t urge it upon she, or he, was unhappy with (and devalued) her entirely domestic role.
But of course the genders aren’t the same – and I don’t want them to be. But I sure as hell don’t want this current feminist culture. A man must be a man. But it’s way harder in a culture that tells him not to be.
I strongly suspect this woman will ball bust her new stay at home husband as well, and thereby destroy her attraction for him. But as well I think it was half way lost from the get go, i.e. from who SHE chose this next time. I further suspect that she is torn between wanting to dominate men and not really being that sexually turned on by men she can more or less dominate. If she’s at least some kind of looker and has a strong sex drive she’s gonna start cheating with sorta bad boys (that she wouldn’t want to live with) and then may start rubbing it in her husband’s face.
And guess what. The law will still favor her compared to a man in divorce, if new guy balls up to do that.
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Barak Hussain Muhammed Obama = Afirmitive Action Puppet of the New World Order Bankster Elite Globalist Crime Syndicate.
and manslave to Angry Klingon
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If my unusually successful past weekend is any indication, Roissy is 100% correct in this post. Now, the trick is to keep up that success…
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But I don’t think she does have a really strong sex drive. Or hasn’t discovered it (had those hormones flow in the peak way yet).
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Look, I agree that the woman was horrible and selfish. I said something like that in my previous comment. I know, too, that it’s very difficult to look for a job and look after a toddler at the same time. The fact is, though, that a man in this situation – if he wants to avoid being “beta-ized” – is going to have to be very firm about needing to hire a babysitter or find a daycare centre for the toddler so that he can look for work. He might have been able to avoid losing his wife’s respect if he had stood up to her and insisted that he needed to find a job and had to take time off from child-care in order to do so, but it sounds as if he either just accepted the situation, or allowed his wife to bully him out of his resolve.
Meanwhile, I agree that this woman seems very conflicted about what she really wants from a man. Her feminist mind tells her she wants a caring, sensitive fellow, but her instincts tell her she needs someone more macho. I don’t think her second marriage is necessarily doomed – the new man sounds as if he is able to insist on doing what he wants to do, and what he wants is not to work a 9-5 job.
After all, is an employed man necessarily more alpha than an unemployed one? Aren’t you Game admirers always saying that it’s not what an alpha does, but how he does it, that makes him an alpha?
Clio
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Some people try to play the anti-feminist game of “What’s so wrong with a man taking care of the kids while the wife works?” I have no problem with that. If a mother and father decide that that’s a good situation and both seem secure enough in their roles, then I say go for it. The sad truth is this isn’t usually how it works out. The man will feel less than while the woman feels as if she’s supporting a beta husband. She’ll undoubtedly grow resentful of him, and generally their marriage will fall apart. This happened in the article I cited, and I wouldn’t be surprised if the same thing happens with the author’s new stay-at-home husband.
The thing about the whole anti-female if-she-can-have-it-one-way-why-can’t-I attitude is that it is incongruent with the attitude men who practice Game try to project. When running Game, a man uses tactics to appeal to a woman’s hinderbrain in order look like his value as a prospective mate is high. He attempts to be the social center of the room so that women will view him as an owner of social capital, a proxy for protection.
How can anyone decry a woman’s being upset with her husband’s utter display of betaness and no social value and advocate Game at the same time?
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Let me say that in this situation, it isn’t about alpha or beta (despite what the bitch says in her article).
This is just a lousy wife. They do exist, you know.
The beta thing about the guy is simply that he married her. He was probably young and naive when he did so. Frankly, he’s lucky he’s done with the bitch. However, losing his daughter is a huge tragedy (if he doesn’t have joint custody, which he very well may).
What this woman wants – and it’s very clear if you read between the lines – is someone to do all the stuff she doesn’t want to do, which includes raising her own child, cooking and cleaning, for free!
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Hey, about “acting Negro.” I know how alpha those black guys are. 80% of the black children in Baltimore are without a father of record. That’s just so alpha.
If it weren’t for us betas and the @#$% law, all those babies would either be dead of starvation or being raised by their ex-alpha fathers. Being alpha is easy when you don’t take any responsibility for your actions. The moment you subordinate your desires and pleasures for the benefit of your family you are demoted to betatude.
yup exactly, that is alpha. negro alphas fuck who they want and have fun, betas get stuck holding the bag. alphas have the fun, betas foot the bill and bitch and moan the whole time behind closed doors on the internet. that’s the way of the world. its irresponsible yeah but its alpha.
alphas bust the nuts, betas take care of the sluts. hahaha
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America has become vaginized and as a result is in steep decline:
As the male is removed from society it degenerates, implodes, and then ceases to exist. Whether we have spiritual attainment or materialistic degeneration, there is no place for the male in either activity. In the former he evolved out of his position and in the latter he was removed from it.
No males—no purpose. No purpose—no society.
In the realm of human existence there are very few at the extremes—those that attain union with God or those that self destruct—but most of society tends to be somewhere in the middle of the spectrum, depending upon the virility and purpose of its males. Since males in Western society are impotent and lacking in direction and vitality, it is only natural that Western society is collapsing.
Whether or not one believes in the prophecy of the Mayans, Nostradamus, Edgar Casey, Revelations, the end times, or prophets such as Isaiah and Jeremiah, society has always been warned of the degeneration that takes place with the decline of the masculine influence. It happened, in ancient Israel, Greece, Rome, Spain, and now throughout the Western world. The words of the prophets are rarely heeded, and the lesson of history is that no one learns from it.
In order for a society to have purpose, or at least the ability to strive for goals, it must have virility. It must have the energy to fulfill its aspirations. Virility and the assertive action that it generates come form the masculine principle—from the male of the species.
No males—no virility. No virility—no action. No action—no accomplishment.
The neutering of the male in Western society has developed into a huge evil born of ignorance. It is leading to the demise of society and there is no “fixing” this demise. The health and well-being of men, women and children has never been in a worse state. Like an illness that must run its course before health is restored, the genderless thinking of Western society will wash away upon its collapse as the people face the issue of their very survival. That day is rapidly nearing.
– http://www.mensaction.net/blog/2009/02/sense-of-purpose.html
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Ha – Negros as alphas?! That’s a joke if I ever heard it…they got to get White taxpayer money to take care of their screwed up and neglected kids, negroid males aren’t even man enough to feed their own kids and they put it all on their already overburdened females while they run off and get high on crack and commit robberies. So pathetic, and beta as hell.
Africa can’t even feed itself properly. Without White support many of the negros in Africa, America, and almost everywhere else would starve. Being unable to feed or otherwise take care of yourself is beta…relying on govt. handouts is beta…starving is beta, and so is neglecting your kids and treating your women like shit, all typical negroid behaviors.
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Academic, well-reasoned acknowledgment of un-PC truths about race and human abilities = alpha
Frothing hostility towards blacks, probably the result of walking in on your ex-girlfriend, who told you she was waiting for marriage, with a black guy balls-deep inside her aka “Holla back” = beta
This woman has the potential to be an excellent wife. Look at her now, working hard and making dollars while her new fling chills out all day. Works for me.
Cheers
Zdeno
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Holla back’s probably had an ex-wife (possibly current) cheat on him with a black dude. Sorry cuckold.
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Obsidian,
By “negro behavior” the poster seemed to mean the fact that some of today’s rap artists refer to women as “bitches” a lot. So he generalized and claimed all “negroes” behaved this way.
While use of the word “bitch” does happen regularly amongst a subculture, anyone who has dealt wit hthe larger African-American community knows this word isn’t only NOT used, it’s use is looked upon with more scorn than whites have for it (there’s a Chris Rock routine about this). This is not the way blacks in general speak; only a vocal subculture that the media fawns over.
As an Italian-American, I have to put up with similar ignorant comments about the Mafia. Only a tiny number of Italians had anything to do with organized crime, yet because the media salivated over this, we’re all painted as gangsters. When I once EARNED a top position for writing, one of the first comments someone said to me was “it must be your Mafia connections.”
Since you’re one of the more erudite posters on here and I’ve praised your writing many times, I urge you not to be offended by one person’s offensiveness. Although I can see why you’d be pissed off — when the above person made the Mafia comment to me I pretty much told him to f*** off, even though he was an editor.
Not all whites think blacks regularly use the word “bitches” and not all whites equate Italians with the Mafia. However, when we come across one of the backwards people online, we must remember not to be engulfed by anger. They’re Internet wimps after all. I’d recommend trashing them in person, but that would just play into their stereotype fantasies. Success truly is the best revenge.
Days of Broken Arrows
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DOBA…
and here I thought you were a Redskin Chief. Because of your handle.
Seeing as I have Cherokee (A lot) on both sides of my family line, I call myself a redskin red neck.
Its Responsible for high cheekbones and a 6′ 4″ frame that I have been blessed with.
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Black guys are unwilling alphas, from what I’ve seen.
Ever see how their girlfriends or wives treat them? It isn’t pretty. If I were a black guy I’d hit it and run every time, too. Of course, it’s getting to be the same for white guys.
I wonder what will happen to poor Chris Brown? I’ll bet Rhianna gave at least as good as she got.
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Chuck and Zdeno – You wanna know a perfect example of White betatude? It’s White boys like you two calling out another White guy’s racial views as being motivated by his wife/ex being fucked by a black guy.
That is CLASSIC White pussy boy beta talk right there.
Welmer – Black guys are unwilling alphas, from what I’ve seen.
Ever see how their girlfriends or wives treat them? It isn’t pretty. If I were a black guy I’d hit it and run every time, too.
I’ve lived in mostly black urban America for years and yeah black females can be brutal towards black guys.
The verbal aggression, body language and psyche war is incredible. White women are a totally different breed by comparison. I think that’s part of the motivation for black male obsession with White women. The White women are a weaker, easier target.
If black guys supposedly have better game that White guys it’s because they’ve had thousands of generations of experience having to work natural game on a much, much tougher opponent – black women.
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Well tonight’s comments certainly took an unexpected turn.
On a lighter note, I ran some online game earlier this evening using sentence-sentence-question syntax. I was deftly able to employ the word ‘anhedonic’ as well. I should probably just go ahead and count the notch.
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The fucking tripe from his and your mouths are beta. Being blatantly jealous of the perception of another race’s sexual prowess is beta. Being Willard fucking Libby is beta.
Must have hit a nerve huh Willard?
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White women are catching up fast.
Do you really think black men are obsessed with white women? I’m not so sure. I think for most of them it’s only a short-lived trend they go through at a young age. Once people leave adolescence (early-mid 20s), they tend to gravitate more toward their own type. Not all, of course, but I think that holds in general.
Also, think from a black person’s perpective: White folks must look, sound and smell kind of strange if you’re black, and that isn’t even taking the cultural differences into account.
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Its always tough to be in a position to agree w/the likes of a Willard Libby. But if I am to be honest, that I have to tell the truth and shame the devil.
He is correct, on a number of fronts. The sheer level of vitriol btw male and female in Black America is the stuff of novels, stageplays, even movies, and of course, music, Hip Hop notwithstanding. Talk about a battle of the sexes writ large. And, I think, from a scientific POV, testosterone plays an important role, on both sides. It is well known that Black Women are, on average, a tad more aggressive than even their Italian or otherwise “ethnic White” counterpart; any Man looking to bag the average Sistas *has* to bring his full on Alpha A-Game.
I can say, from personal experience, that the average White Woman, and that includes the South Philly Italian girl to the Polish chick from out in Port Richmond, to the Russian female in the far Northeast and the JAP out on the Main Line, are all infinitely easier to score than are Sistas, all things being equal of course. I cannot and will not speak for all Brothas in this regard, my words are my own. But this is what I have seen and noticed.
A quick word about the Brown/Rihanna situation…
Although details remain somewhat sketchy, and in any event I would never condone Brown’s actions if what he’s been accused of is indeed true, I must say that there is something to be said for some Women who will “test” their Men along these lines. T-Raw has written about this to some extent, as to why, for example, Sistas tend to select for Thugs.
I’ve found the appropriate response is to grip the gal up and administer a firm spanking. It both establishes the proper order of things thereby giving her the security she needs, sets boundaries, and makes for quite a delicious sexual subtext.
More later. And DBA, good comments.
The Obsidian
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A few thoughts about that Marie Claire beta story:
They were a mismatched couple. The seems like a hard-charging high-T type. Women like her are happiest with rich Alpha guys to whom they can look up, who won’t cramp their style, and who give her a lot of space to pursue her career without having to worry about household responsibilities or money.
The boss she mentions early in the article clearly made her loins tingle. How apt of her to mention his cigar.
The husband dropped the ball in a few ways. For one, like someone else said, he should have “owned” his situation, perhaps like her second guy, who made no apologies for being a stay-at-home dad.
If he wanted to be employed full-time, he should have taken any job, even as a Wendy’s manager. It sounds like he was holding out for some SWPL high-status Film Teaching position.
“Sherloks Holmes was a post-colonial blah blah plah porstodernist douchebaggery blah blah…” Good luck, buddy. Grow up.
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I’ve lived in mostly black urban America for years and yeah black females can be brutal towards black guys.
The verbal aggression, body language and psyche war is incredible. White women are a totally different breed by comparison. I think that’s part of the motivation for black male obsession with White women. The White women are a weaker, easier target.
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“http://www.marieclaire.com/sex-love/relationship-issues/articles/beta-husband
It’s a somewhat interesting insight into the mind of woman and her disgust for her beta husband. It kind of falls apart at the end b/c I have a feeling her *new* relationship will go the way of her old one.”
The 2nd guy is alpha — he doesn’t give a shit. I know a guy like that. He notched over a hundred girls, then married a doctor who makes a quarter million dollars. She works, he stays home, the kid goes to daycare.
The 1st guy is beta not because he couldn’t find a job, but he bought into the bullshit of a man needing to have a job. He could’ve taken his bitch of an ex to the cleaners. He would’ve gotten full custody, child support, and alimony. He probably willingly walked away with nothing because of the beta notion that it’s HONORABLE and that women shouldn’t PAY.
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“If black guys supposedly have better game that White guys it’s because they’ve had thousands of generations of experience having to work natural game on a much, much tougher opponent – black women.”
Bullshit. Black women are easy for direct game. That’s why black guys only know direct game.
White women select for beta game because they want cash and resources. Hence, Valentine’s commercial bullshit, diamonds, marriage, divorce rape laws, etc.
It’s classic Darwin — females selecting males for certain traits and encouraging males to develop those traits.
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Bullshit. Black women are easy for direct game. That’s why black guys only know direct game.
White women select for beta game because they want cash and resources.
So the idea that black women prefer alphas, goes against the notion that that black men have more game in what way? White women seem to be suckers for direct game too, otherwise this website wouldn’t exist. Beta game can get them settle for you, but won’t hold a woman’s real interest.
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“So nobody was more surprised than I was when I went ahead and fell for another stay-at-home dad…or trying to drink coffee in bed on Sunday mornings while my daughter dances around us, I’m so attracted to him that it’s all I can do not to rip his clothes off then and there.”
This ending cracked me up. The beta dad gets booted, probably with minimal custody rights, and callously replaced with… some other unemployed guy! Who she fucks while the daughter dances around the bed.
Even better, I’d guess the actual personalities, and dominance levels of the two men are probably identical. The only difference is the second guy doesn’t give a shit, because he has nothing to lose. He acts more “alpha” towards this woman only because he has no pre-existing emotional attachment to the mother or the daughter. Guy #1 descended into sheepish supplication and shame only because he loved his family and rationally feared losing them. But unemployed guy #2 can demand a blowjob and dinner, and if she “dumps” him, he’ll just go down to the bar and get another damaged goods single mom to mooch off of that same night. They’re all interchangeable to him.
So, OF COURSE “there’s nothing thwarted or self-pitying” about guy #2. He has no reason to feel shame. He was never morally or socially accountable to the mother and daughter like the genetic father. His complete lack of emotional stake in the woman and her child is precisely what allows him to act in a sexually attractive way.
Unfortunately guy #2 is many times worse for the daughter than guy #1, even if he guy 1 had no child care skills to speak of. The second guy is many times more likely to hurt the daughter. He’ll probably end up molesting the daughter, while the mom looks the other way.
Meanwhile guy #1 is probably off half-dead somewhere in a puddle of piss and shame. He probably can’t even afford to live in the same city as the wife and daughter. He’ll drift off the face of the earth.
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A cautionary tale from the high-risk, high-reward world of the Alpha:
BEIJING, China (CNN) — A married Chinese businessman who could no longer afford five mistresses held a competition to decide which one to keep.
But the contest took a fatal turn when one of the women, eliminated for her looks, drove the man and the four other competitors off a cliff, Chinese media reported.
While betas are up to their eyeballs in emasculation by their dominant women, this story nicely illustrates the lone alpha neutralizer: The Crazy Bitch
Granted, this guy was playing with fire, maintaining a high-cost nouveau-harem such that he was. His status as true alpha is debatable, given that his mistresses were bought and paid for. However he did manage to have five of them, who were all aware of each other, and unbeknownst to his wife. Surely some amount of game was involved in managing that situation. It was a bad idea to introduce a competition/elimination aspect into determining who to keep. He should have simply lied to all of them and kept his favorite rather than conducting his own reality show and provoking psychotic behavior.
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Patrick:
“The four other women left him, as did his wife when she learned of the affairs.”
Not alpha. A true alpha’s women stand by him no matter what ridiculous crap he pulls. This guy couldn’t even manage to hold on to one.
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Re: The beta husband story. Does anyone have any good ideas for how you DO skirt around the issue of being unemployed/having a less a totally glamorous job when it comes up in conversation with a woman? The thing the guy says, “I do freelancing,” sounds alright. Is it just a matter of saying it *like* an alpha?
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JM
Considering they survived a murder attempt at the hands of the man’s other mistress, its not at all surprising, but isn’t a clear indication of betahood. That sort of thing can kinda kill the romance, ya know?
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“I went ahead and fell for another stay-at-home dad…or trying to drink coffee in bed on Sunday mornings while my daughter dances around us”
I just realized how evil this passage sounds. It’s the part about the little girl and some other guy watching her grow up. The girls’ father is either so broken he doesn’t care, or he has enough spirit left in him to be thinking desperate thoughts.
What a callous, stupid, evil woman. And then she then writes an articel about it.
Does anyone have any good ideas for how you DO skirt around the issue of being unemployed/having a less a totally glamorous job when it comes up in conversation with a woman?
Your job, your life. Own it. No apologies, no explanations.
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to Anon 9:14
Your acquaintance’s marriage may momentarily sweet from the exterior, but I’m questioning that this is long-term sustainable. I participate in an online physician-only forum. Several discussions among the women have addressed the role of women physicians as sole income earners. These women are very appreciative for their stay-at-home-dad husbands, but feel burdened with the responsibility to provide solely for their families. I suspect there may always be some resentment. I remember comments like, “my husband is a sculptor, and I wouldn’t mind if he’d receive a million dollar commission.” The stay-at-home stage is brief–15 years? The kids move on, and the role of the husband must progress.
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So, nobody else went out on Valentine’s day?
I’m disappointed there aren’t more tales to tell.
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the night before was a fairly concerted effort for girls to skip flaking out and get down to business at the last minute, xmas eve shopping for the lonely gashes out there, as it were.
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Patrick, true alphas survive all manner of crazy bitch assassination attempts. i’ve been confronted publicly, had ex’s grab my current girlfriend, had girls on the side email conversations….if you’ve done the foundation work, nearly anything is conceivable.
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It’s the part about the little girl and some other guy watching her grow up.
I think the problem stems from the fact that some people only see fathers as useful for income source, informal handyman, and a sex partner, but sadly, not as a parent with an actual role with raising children. Even my mom who grew up without her dad* always wonders why I love my dad such much since she thinks I should love her more. I always explain to her that she didn’t grow up with a dad, and she doesn’t really realize the importance of having a dad.
For the black children of my generation, I’m very, very lucky…
*My maternal grandfather had the tendency to bang lots of women in an almost alpha-like sense…
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Benedict Smith:
Three words: drove. off. cliff.
Making a public spectacle of a private matter is standard fare for the beautiful girl who gets spurned. Ever had a scorned girl try to pour water and drop things on you from a 3rd floor window? I have. Trashy, sure, but not homicidal. And as a matter of fact, he did survive the attempt on his life. Whether he re-launches his alpha career or not remains to be seen.
The more troubling act was unnecessarily paying the dead would-be killer bitch’s parents compensation for her death. Quite the downfall, indeed.
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For the black children of my generation, I’m very, very lucky…
You probably are. That’s partly related to why I’m not too concerned about your beta ways (to the extent that one can be concerned with an internet personality). I figure that all the great advice you get form Obsidian and others will sink in if/when it’s meant to.
The fact that you sound like you grew up in a wholesome mother-father familiy is an indication to me that you’ll turn out fine in the end.
Going back to the topic of the father’s importance to a child… I’m probably at the opposite extreme from what our society thinks. I believe that in custody battles, the courts should default to the father getting the child, not the mother, unless the father doesnt’ want them or has documented problems like criminality or drug abuse.
Drawbacks to noth having fathers: boys likelier to grow up wimps/criminals, and girls more likely to become sluts/be abused by futrue boyfriends.
On the other hand, a mother’s role as a nurturer is very important, especially to a small child…. but I’m not so sure the adverse effects to growing up motherless are as stark as growing up fatherless.
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“Making a public spectacle of a private matter is standard fare for the beautiful girl who gets spurned. ”
Ditto that. My LT ex, after we broke up, searched my email and found some sexual emails with a former fling and a current one. She printed them off, posted them off Facebook, and sent my then-current girlfriend an email saying that I’d had cheated on her with the ex. She also told the world (via Facebook) that I was addicted to pr0n, which may or may not have been true.
And she’s the one who broke it off with me.
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“Several discussions among the women have addressed the role of women physicians as sole income earners. These women are very appreciative for their stay-at-home-dad husbands, but feel burdened with the responsibility to provide solely for their families. I suspect there may always be some resentment. I remember comments like, “my husband is a sculptor, and I wouldn’t mind if he’d receive a million dollar commission. The stay-at-home stage is brief–15 years? The kids move on, and the role of the husband must progress.”
1. He’s not even a stay at-home dad or even some kind of “artist”. The kid goes to daycare and has a babysitter the rest of the time.
2. If his wife gets tired of him, so what? He’s legally the primary caregiver.
If she wants to jettison him, he’ll get HALF the value of her medical license and practice, alimony, and probaby full custody. Hell, he’ll probably give up custody in exchange for extra cash; the kid will just impede his lifestyle. He’s a small-scale Kevin Federline.
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Rain and, well said. perhaps the dynamic at play that you highlighted would be different if the silly whore ex-wife was under threat of losing her child to her ex-husband’s custody.
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Chuck – The fucking tripe from his and your mouths are beta. Being blatantly jealous of the perception of another race’s sexual prowess is beta. Being Willard fucking Libby is beta.
Must have hit a nerve huh Willard?
Whitey, there was nothing about sex in Holla back’s comments that you and Zdeno responded to. His angry comments were on morality, responsibility and criminality.
It was you two insecure White beta dorks who brought up the pathetic sexual allegation.
Because that’s what your kind of guy ALWAYS does.
Obsidian – Its always tough to be in a position to agree w/the likes of a Willard Libby. But if I am to be honest, that I have to tell the truth and shame the devil.
“The likes”? Naw, one of a kind here. Not necessarily in a good way.
Anon – “If black guys supposedly have better game that White guys it’s because they’ve had thousands of generations of experience having to work natural game on a much, much tougher opponent – black women.”
Bullshit. Black women are easy for direct game. That’s why black guys only know direct game.
Anon, I’m not saying the black female psychology is healthy or good or admirable. I’m just saying a huge percentage of “sistas” are ready for war. They are tough, contemptuous and competitive with men.
It’s like boxing. You can’t get in the ring and bring a weak game against an opponent who has grown up learning in the Philadelphia gym wars or Kronk.
There are a lot of reasons for greater black female whateveryou call it. African ecology, slavery, urban badass America, the genetics of high female testosterone.
Whatever the cause the racial differences in females are genuine.
Here’s a photo from 2004 of the woman who wrote the Marie Clare article. She’s on the right with the glasses.
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Here’s a photo from 2004 of the woman who wrote the Marie Clare article. She’s on the right with the glasses.
Yes, even the plain girls want alphas. Ooops.
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The beta dad gets booted, probably with minimal custody rights, and callously replaced with… some other unemployed guy!
Oddly, that sounds like my cousin with my niece, except that as my niece noted, “mommy argued with daddy cause daddy kept asking her for money”.
The new guy is marginally employed, but is going to school, and helps my cousin out with rent and food. Regardless, we’ve told my niece to tell an adult if the new guy acts like a tool.
I believe that in custody battles, the courts should default to the father getting the child
IIRC, isn’t that somewhat common in some parts of Europe? Of course, such alternative practices leads one to conclude which is worse, the evil-step mother of legend or the step-father of Lifetime fame? Plus, do men really *want* full-custody of their kids, especially if it gets in the way of finding somebody new to bang? I suspect that the best course of action is joint-custody with address and fingerprint registration along with a minimal period before remarriage.
Mind you, my arguments are tempered by need for both parents.
boys likelier to grow up wimps/criminals, and girls more likely to become sluts/be abused by futrue boyfriends
I think it’s the instability that causes that problem. I’ve seen slutty girls come from unstable homes with two parents, while I’ve seen girls from divorced homes and minimal contact with fathers give off a sexless aura.
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“Whitey, there was nothing about sex in Holla back’s comments that you and Zdeno responded to. His angry comments were on morality, responsibility and criminality.
It was you two insecure White beta dorks who brought up the pathetic sexual allegation.
Because that’s what your kind of guy ALWAYS does.”
This whole board is about sex. Every comment made on this board has sex as it’s undercurrent.
I’m obviously not the insecure one. I’m the white one arguing *against* race baiting. I realize the fact that on average, black guys do score more women than whites. I’m ok with that. We’ve determined on this board that alphaness is more a function of obtaining sexual relations. The more of that, the generally higher level of alphaness. By that metric, then yes, black males are more alpha. A man like Holla back who goes directly into defense mechanism when confronted with that truth reeks of insecurity and cuckoldry. I’ve seen it many times; guys angry that their exs’ started dating black guys. They go straight for the irresponsiblility, thug card no matter the background of the guy. I’ve also encountered guys who have had women who cheated on them with all different races. Only in the instance where the woman cheats with a black guy do I hear such comments as the one Holla Back spouted and the ones you’re defending.
“Because that’s what your kind of guy ALWAYS does.”
Tell me Willard, what kind of guy am I?
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Anon,
“If she wants to jettison him, he’ll get HALF the value of her medical license and practice, alimony, and probaby full custody. Hell, he’ll probably give up custody in exchange for extra cash; the kid will just impede his lifestyle. He’s a small-scale Kevin Federline.”
Not likely. Husbands, primary caregivers or not, virtually never get alimony, and the chances that he’ll get an ownership in her medical practice are slim, dropping to none if she got her MD before they got married.
During my mercifully brief career as a divorce lawyer, I had a case pretty similar to these facts: the father, my client, was a failed lawyer-turned part-time sociology professor/stay-at-home dad. The mother was a doctor. She demanded full custody, and forced him to submit to an endless series of pyschological tests to prove that he was unfit, all with the support of the Judge and the supposedly neutral Child Advocate. In the vast majority of cases, she would have won, got full custody, and he would have been paying her child support. The only way we avoided that was by catching her committing blatant perjury in a deposition. Result? 50/50 joint custody.
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Rain And, you should sent that comment to Marie Clare. I’d love to see if it gets printed or responded to.
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The significance of fathers… I’m currently quite young, still in university. I haven’t been living with my dad for a couple of years. Before that, my parents lived with each other in the same house but not in the same room for our (children’s) sake.
To my eyes, my dad did not wear the pants in the relationship and gave in whenever my mother had a temper tantrum(about money ‘course. Nobody could make enough money for her, which is why she worked in risky business herself despite her vets degree). I resented him for that even as a child — he was supposed to be a balancing force to my mother’s madness –, and due to recent revelations I’m sure my mother did too, seeing it as a sign of him not caring about her, due to her cultural beliefs.
When we moved, it was our mother’s decision and it was for the sake of immigrating to a better country, our dad stayed behind due to fears he couldn’t get a job in this new country and to keep his earning power going. He really didn’t have much say over the matter, and went along with arranging all the expensive paperwork.
Retrospectively, almost immediatedly after moving, I began thinking much more strongly in romantic terms and do continue to pointlessly think about this, even though to me it runs so counter to my (previous?) nature. This was not due to a change in culture or hormones, having reached my peak back home and having read romances for a while.
A connection I made was with something my mother said and which she uses as the basis of me not indulging in dishonorable (i.e. slutty) behaviour, which is this: I love my father.
But, mom, he’s not here…
I think loss of fathers as an influence, especially ones with the proper traditional authority, has way more knock-on issues than concievable in the psychology of women. I guess we all known and acknowledge this, but inevitably a slutty woman has some sort of father issues, mainly due to losing him or having him missing in some way. I’ve seen this in friends; the ones with balanced families are not slutty, the ones with lost fathers are (as well as a host of other psych issues). There’s probably studies floating about somewhere.
Is there a tip about tapping into this in game, or is this the actual essence of what it all ends up being about?
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Add the words ‘tend to’ in all generalisations, any pedants out there, please.
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damn italics…
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DA said:
Stupid html tags. Previous comment should have read:
DA said:
No. They might want, but they can’t have.
You know what that’s like.
Neither of those girls are alpha caliber. Not even in their prime. Lesser beta bait, maybe, with alcohol.
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I’ll just repeat myself from the last thread…
Thursday, you sound excessively eager to share your successes from Valentine’s night. Very beta, and very American (other cultures don’t share our need to prove we are sexually experienced, even when we are not).
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That beta husband article is really like something from 1950s bizarro world. The author has a housewife but wants one that’s sexy, happy and grateful, and so, when the current one starts to complain, she trades him in. You’ve certainly come a long way, baby.
The completely unreflecting presentation just made it better. Delicious.
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There are a lot of reasons for greater black female whateveryou call it. African ecology, slavery, urban badass America, the genetics of high female testosterone.
so the black women you work with won’t take your shit huh? get used to it, women don’t have to take shite off men simply because they are men. you respect us and we respect you.
btw, you will find that African women, from the continent are very different in the way that they relate you men read less feminism. it’s one of the reasons some northern european men like african women.
jaakkai chime in please.
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You know, I’m kinda sick of the nice quiet beta getting a bad rap here. I notice they get it in the office as well. If a man works 8 or more hours a day, helps around the house , faithful, a good provider, decent looking, manages money well, what more can most women ask for. I notice that many of the men here rip the nice quiet beta apart as well. The thing is, nice beta guy shouldn’t forced to become some screaming yelling angry tyrant just to satisfy some weak twisted part of his wife’s psyche or be a fuck boy for his boss. It’s not his fault you’re fucked up. It’s not his fault your father didn’t have any interaction with you as a child. It’s not beta nice guy’s fault your wife chewed you out this morning.
One of the few things I can say with accuracy about human behavior is people BS people they think they can beat or “get over on”. That’s the reason the average guy of 5’4 won’t challenge a guy who is 6’4 to a fist fight. Ladies that’s also the reason why a man will spread his legs as far as he possibly can when you sit beside him on the subway/metro but will close his legs faster than a New York minute when a bigger stronger man moves to sit beside him.
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I’ve had bosses who like to yell and scream. When my turn comes around, I cut that shit out on their first try. From then on, my bosses and I develop a mutual level of respect for one another. What’s crazy is how some employees seem to only do a good job when someone is on their ass??? What the hell is that about??? As T said, some people really like to be treated like sh*t, both men and women.
I once had an ex who liked to start petty arguments with me, most of time I would hang up on him but one day in happened when we were face to face. When I let it rip, I truly let it rip poor thing he looked like he saw a ghost. He said he never knew I could become so upset. I told him that I usually remove myself from situations before I become worked up. Anyway, I dumped him soon after because I didn’t want to deal this his petty, crybaby, whiney, talk me to death bullshit.
Speaking as one who has been diagnosed as a spectrum dweller, we don’t really care for much human interaction in real time, a good number of us hate loud noises too. I notice that I personally hate to have people talk me too death as well as share their personal problems with me and or be in my space. I also hate touchy feely types and the close talkers. Bottom line, don’t put up with other folks bullshit, just tell them to fu*k off & walk away when they try you.
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“I was deftly able to employ the word ‘anhedonic’ as well.”
Hate to break it to you CC, but we women know when a guy is trying too hard. So you have a good memory for obscure words (yawn). Id she wasn’t into you she was probably embarrased for you…
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Regarding the Marie Claire article (http://www.marieclaire.com/sex-love/relationship-issues/articles/beta-husband)
Here is another beta-husband story. This one has a twist-in-the-tail.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1148369/After-27-years-Maggie-sure-husband-wouldnt-notice-affair–HE-surprise-HER.html
Beta boy strikes back!
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Chic:
You know, I’m kinda sick of the nice quiet beta getting a bad rap here.
It’s no surprise to me.
Just a couple comments back you wrote:
There are a lot of reasons for greater black female whateveryou call it. African ecology, slavery, urban badass America, the genetics of high female testosterone.
so the black women you work with won’t take your shit huh? get used to it
I’m quite sure the stereotypical “strong black woman” a.k.a. “Nigga Wit Attitude” would be quite invested in seeing to it that the men around her adopt a meek deferential stance.
It makes her Omarosa-like rampage trampling on the backs of those around her all the easier.
It makes her
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Some #s
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-40% of Black births are out of wedlock
-“Down Low” black gayness est. at 15%
-50% of prison population is black; 100%engage in gay sex
-10% of Black men have been incarcerated
-20% of black men are unemployed
Not seeing much alpha here….
Calling a Spade
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Tupac
I don’t understand.
I’m quite sure the stereotypical “strong black woman” a.k.a. “Nigga Wit Attitude” would be quite invested in seeing to it that the men around her adopt a meek deferential stance.
It makes her Omarosa-like rampage trampling on the backs of those around her all the easier.
It makes her
Nice beta guy is not a passive aggressive idiot or man who takes out his anger on women because they are a safer target. I’ve worked with a few men who take a page right out of the mean girls handbook. Nice beta guy does not being his personal problems into the office.
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Peter
You’re always good for a fun link.
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