I watched “Knowing” on a free movie internet database site. It’s about a kid from 50 years ago who predicts the future with dates and locations for tragic events that hadn’t yet occurred. The end times event prophecied by the kid is a giant solar flare that literally scorches the earth to a crisp. It was a silly but entertaining movie.
I wondered about the odds of such an event happening, and if a real life rogue monster solar flare would cause the worldwide firestorm depicted in the movie. Then I read this:
Over the last few decades, western civilisations have busily sown the seeds of their own destruction. Our modern way of life, with its reliance on technology, has unwittingly exposed us to an extraordinary danger: plasma balls spewed from the surface of the sun could wipe out our power grids, with catastrophic consequences.
The projections of just how catastrophic make chilling reading. “We’re moving closer and closer to the edge of a possible disaster,” says Daniel Baker, a space weather expert based at the University of Colorado in Boulder, and chair of the NAS committee responsible for the report.
It is hard to conceive of the sun wiping out a large amount of our hard-earned progress. Nevertheless, it is possible. The surface of the sun is a roiling mass of plasma – charged high-energy particles – some of which escape the surface and travel through space as the solar wind. From time to time, that wind carries a billion-tonne glob of plasma, a fireball known as a coronal mass ejection. If one should hit the Earth’s magnetic shield, the result could be truly devastating.
A coronal mass ejection causing the deaths of tens of millions? Yes, but not by firestorm. By a total disruption of services.
The second problem is the [electricity] grid’s interdependence with the systems that support our lives: water and sewage treatment, supermarket delivery infrastructures, power station controls, financial markets and many others all rely on electricity. Put the two together, and it is clear that a repeat of the Carrington event could produce a catastrophe the likes of which the world has never seen.
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First to go – immediately for some people – is drinkable water. Anyone living in a high-rise apartment, where water has to be pumped to reach them, would be cut off straight away. For the rest, drinking water will still come through the taps for maybe half a day. With no electricity to pump water from reservoirs, there is no more after that.
There is simply no electrically powered transport: no trains, underground or overground. Our just-in-time culture for delivery networks may represent the pinnacle of efficiency, but it means that supermarket shelves would empty very quickly – delivery trucks could only keep running until their tanks ran out of fuel, and there is no electricity to pump any more from the underground tanks at filling stations.
Back-up generators would run at pivotal sites – but only until their fuel ran out. For hospitals, that would mean about 72 hours of running a bare-bones, essential care only, service. After that, no more modern healthcare.
The article goes on to describe more nightmarish consequences of an unanticipated CME. And how difficult and time-consuming it is to replace the transformers fried by a massive solar plasma ball of death. Our entire way of life — the decadence of our modern economy — would begin to grind to a halt within days of the event. You wouldn’t even be able to recharge your Ipod. The SWPLs would be running around useless like chickens with their heads cut off.
Right now, the only countermeasure we have is NASA’s ACE orbiter probe which can relay information about solar activity to earth with 15- 45 minutes of warning of any incoming solar storms. But this probe is old and failing. And a huge CME can travel much faster than a typical geomagnetic storm, leaving our power companies with too little warning to prepare by either shutting down or re-routing the electrical systems.
This should be a priority for NASA before any manned space flights to Mars. I don’t want my Quake Live interrupted.

on a side note, check out this slut’s story about her prom in NYC:
“I said yes to the first guy that asked me to prom. We were friendly, but I wouldn’t call us true friends. First, he was 20 minutes late to meet the limo, and then we sat with his weird friends at prom. To make matters worse, he told me that he got us a hotel room in Times Square for the night. Instead of going back to his hotel room, I ditched him and ended up kissing my friend’s date. Not the classiest move, but I had a great time with a date even though he wasn’t mine.”
— Gillian, Tottenville High School, Staten Island, NY
http://lifestyle.msn.com/relationships/articletkt.aspx?cp-documentid=18708409>1=32023
Gillian is clearly a whore, yet the article is supposed to be about prom “mispahps.” Apparently being the village bicycle is just an “accident” to feminazis.
Also, the title of Gillian’s section? “Stud Swap.”
How much do you want to bet the article writer, “Brianne DiSylvester,” is going to be a cat lady, or else married to a miserable ex-hipster beta?
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Usually the doom and gloom scenarios are way overblow. I wouldn’t get too upset by this. Remember Y2K.
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Lonely Cougars vs End of the World? Keep trying!
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Roissy, a post-teenage video gamer? That pontificates on who is alpha and who is beta? Really??
This is a serious problem with my generation…it is filled with post-teenage males who cannot be called men by any stretch of the imagination. Grow up. You’d be surprised on how much your world outlook would improve on many issues.
Females are attracted to MEN…
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Yeah I saw that article linked by instapundit. Who knows, but I tend to disregard such doom mongering.
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—Usually the doom and gloom scenarios are way overblow. I wouldn’t get too upset by this. Remember Y2K.—
I also remember NOL after Katrina. I’m not worried about natural disasters, mind you…
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Roissy, after a couple of CME’s and with no video games to play, maybe you could ply your game ‘Mad Max’ style. The consequences of striking out in that fantastical scenario would certainly be a little more rigorous than simply ‘wasting 30 minutes of your life’.
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NOL after Katrina?
I visited New Orleans after Katrina, and took a tour. The bus driver and the tour operator agreed: there was a ton of warning for people to get the hell out.
Sure, the bitched that the government for failing on many points, but the people who stayed behind and died were stubborn morons.
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sounds like the sun is the ultimate alpha.
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—NOL after Katrina?
I visited New Orleans after Katrina, and took a tour. The bus driver and the tour operator agreed: there was a ton of warning for people to get the hell out.
Sure, the bitched that the government for failing on many points, but the people who stayed behind and died were stubborn morons.—
My point was that I’m not afraid of the natural disasters themselves per say, just the response of certain segments of society…If anything truly ginormous hit, we’d be in real trouble. The whole country could look like the Superdome.
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Is this post laying the foundation to plug Niel Strauss’ newer work?
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What we need to do is mine the moon for He3 before the Chinese get there.
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I don’t know that we need to worry to much about this type of event from the sun, but if you want to worry about this type of low probability-high damage threat then worry about a man made electromatic pulse. Such a pulse would wipe out all electronic circuits for miles. Circuits are in everything now days so everything in the pulse radius would break, not just computers and cell phones.
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Sorry if this is a repost, but I didn’t see my comment appear above, so I think it got lost.
Roissy, I am amazed that you had this up on your blog, since I read it today and was thinking of nothing but that on my commute home from work this evening. I was thinking about how I would react if this happened. Certainly there are ways to prepare ahead of time, but would I really do many of them? No. I’m too busy going out to bars and practicing the new-found skills that I have learned from this fantastic genius corner of the internet that you have created and nurtured.
Where did you find this? I got it off Radley Balko’s blog, theagitator.com
But from what I understood in the article, this would mainly affect the northern hemisphere (am I wrong on that? I didn’t re-read it, so it could be poor memory from when i read it like 8 hours ago) I am currently living in Central Europe, so we would certainly be affected.
So let’s say I see the crazy lights in the sky. What do I do?
1. Fill my bathtub and all the empty plastic bottles I can find (thank god I am lazy and messy and don’t recycle!) with water so I can drink for a while.
2. Take as much cash as I can scrounge together (Are ATMS still working at this point? even for 20 minutes after I see the apocalypta borealis?) go to a currency exchange, and get as many Australian dollars, brazilian whatever-the-fucks, and other stable southern hemisphere currencies as I can.
3. Buy, or if necessary, steal supplies. Canned goods, protein bars, etc. Batteries. Tools. Gasoline. Stilll working on this list in my head.
Guns.
4. Plunder my local library for anything about DIY, farming, pre-electric technologies and their workings.
5. Get me and my girlfriend to her parents’ place out in the country. Can do it easily with a tank of gas. She is from a village, and that’s gotta be safer than a big city, where chaos and plunder and death are sure to occur when there’s no running water and the stores are empty. Her dad is the mayor, so hopefully he has pull with people. Get in touch with the farmers and such, and learn learn learn as much as I can. Work my ass off in exchange for this knowledge.
6. Make babies.
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Things would probably just be fine in Somalia though.
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We would be particularly vulnerable to a CME if it struck during a geomagnetic reversal, likely to occur quite soon, some say even in our lifetimes. The question that has remained open among scientists is the speed of the shift. As it occurs, large gaps in the earths magnetic field would be able to reach earth’s surface causing all kinds of mischief.
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“Such a pulse would wipe out all electronic circuits for miles. Circuits are in everything now days so everything in the pulse radius would break, not just computers and cell phones.”
An EMP attack. Plenty of people would love to do this to the US.
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To all of you finding this post a reason for humor, I say you laugh at one deadly serious matter here.
After witnessing the Hurricane Katrina debacle, I went out and bought a whole bunch of food storage supplies, fuel, propane, charcoal and bottled water, as well as a healthy stockpile of ammunition for all of my guns.
I’ve also started raising egg laying chickens, planting a vegetable and herb garden…and I’ve been a wild boar hunter for years now, so I’ve always stocked my freezer with boar meat.
Katrina showed me perfectly that when one looks at our modern way of life, one can easily see how a catastrophic event could in fact result in the breakdown of civil society.
When thousands of people have no food or water, it’s a matter of DAYS before lawlessness breaks out as people start thirsting and starving.
I live on an island with 1,000,000+ people. We are almost entirely dependent on shipping to bring the majority of our food here. I have a friend that used to work for the main warehouse for ALL the grocery stores here on the island. He said the warehouse holds only two weeks of grocery supplies at a time. Two weeks of food for 1 million + people…the vast majority of which would have no clue what to do for food once the grocery store shelves are empty.
All it would take is shipping to be cut off for one month and my island paradise would turn into a post-apocalyptic war zone.
People I know call me crazy for my planning.
We’ll see who’s crazy if/when any kind of event happens.
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Pupu is not afraid. By the end of the world, Martians may find Pupu attractive, and invite her to move in and watch the giant plasma Sun TV from their place.
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I see Neil’s “Emergency” is provoking…thought.
When it comes, I’ll sit on my throne like Conan and one of them can be my Iago, one the Harem Master in charge of Catfight Control while I busy myself rounding up Outlanders like Planet of The Apes.
I’d miss televised football, and a few blogs. That’s it.
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As it occurs, large gaps in the earths magnetic field would be able to reach earth’s surface causing all kinds of mischief.
To clarify: the large gaps created by the geomagnetic shift would allow CME’s to penetrate the atmosphere and strike the Earth’s surface.
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And what if volcanoes started going off all over the place. It would be disastrous. I think they made movies about this.
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I think we all enjoy a good end-of-the-world hypothesis now and then. Heck, global warming is built on it.
I always preferred the simple running out of power scenario. After gas prices last summer went up to *only* $4.00/Gallon, people were freaking out, cancelling vacation plans, cutting expenses, etc. Imagine if it hit $10/gallon???
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Why it will be nice to be living in a farming community by then won’t have to eat each other.
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Lol; as someone else said, sounds like Y2K to me. Oh noes; we might not be able to log into facebook for a while.
FWIIW, electrical grids regularly go out for these reasons. Humanity is not that fragile. Though it’s nice to imagine hunting SWPL’s for their fur while dressed in appropriate post apocalyptic attire.
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And New Orleans was interesting because the shit broke down so quick before people really even got hungry.
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Like they were just waiting for a catalyst maybe.
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ummmm…anybody remember the Great 2003 Blackout?
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WTF is an SWPL? You reference it all the time but I haven’t come across it’s meaning! It can’t be “Stuff White People Like” — which seems to be how it’s mostly used outside of this website.
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Anon, that’s Roissy’s term for any fellow white who would dare to be horrified by his soft embrace of white nationalism and the inordinate amount time he devotes to gaining access to vaginas.
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Dave you can get a hydroponics set up for 3k with output of fish and greens that should last ya.
“note to self become a hydroponics salesman”
Well time to go make money off of this phenomenon.
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This post is beta.
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Think about all the suburbanites you can sell them freedom. They won’t just say they are free they can actually be free. Those houses usually have a decent yard. So instead of just sinking all your resouces into something that returns nothing you might get something for your hard work. Then the wives might actually feel like they might be a little more usefull too.
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I remember the best equipped guys for Katrina were those obsessed with possible zombie outbreaks.
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The concerns in the article Roissy refers to are a bit overblown, to say the least. A CME caused a massive power outage in Quebec in 1989 for…11 hours. People were complaining their Perrier wasn’t cold enough. Oh, the humanity. Seriously, satellites are most vulnerable to this kind of thing, and when hit they usually just go into “safe” mode. The kind of massive damage you’re talking about sounds more like the result of the circuit-frying effects of EMP. CMEs are always happening, and they follow the sunspot cycle in frequency and intensity. They’re building a big radio telescope array in Australia that will come online in 2010 and will be used to give the Earth a warning time of hours instead of minutes. So power companies will eventually have ample time to prepare.
People should spend less time worrying about the unlikely things that will do them in, and more time worrying about the more likely causes of death: meteors, bears, and ninjas.
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abe: Things would probably just be fine in Somalia though.
I can see that. No more Saudi tankers for pirates. No more Italian nuns to rob. No more remittances of Swedish welfare money. How would they buy their ammo?
Things might really finally be fine in Somalia.
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I want to prove people right! When there is a massive power outage/natural disaster/liberals take over the world, I want the people stock-piling guns and the such to feel vindicated. I’m going to generate a list of the people most likely to have such stockpiles, whip some of the masses into a furor and attack their homes. But don’t worry! We’ll only attack in such a way as to be fended off. We won’t actually take any of your stuff, except for the bullets that will be lodged in our bodies. Hell, you can even search our dead for useful items like gold fillings. Oh and don’t feel bad about killing us. At best we’re Looters and Moochers to your Eddie Willerses.
Sure, my meager bands will be turned away, and people (all mine) will be killed, but it’ll be worth it! When Joe Survivor looks out over the field of battle after the carnage has subsided he’ll be able to feel immense pride at having been proved (by me) right!
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At 42, I still look better than your girlfriend….
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As I intend to be Affe Survivor, I look forward to fending off I_Affe’s zombie hordes. Hmmm… I wonder which of the lovelies in my safe will best turn his cover into concealment… maybe I should invest in that 338LM I’ve been pondering…
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I don’t know what you would have to defend affe with the gay hmmm since maybe you would get lucky and the zombies would be rapists.
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All it would take is shipping to be cut off for one month and my island paradise would turn into a post-apocalyptic war zone.
People I know call me crazy for my planning.
Dave, the only viable plan for what to do if the SHTF in Hawaii is not to be there in the first place. You’re not going to be able to hold off the ravening hordes by yourself no matter how much ammo you have.
There is a Larry Niven short story called Inconstant Moon about a solar flare striking the Earth (told from the perspective of the people on the night-time side, of course).
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What, no predictions that this will happen on Dec 21 2012?
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Survivalism has nothing to do with White nationalism or supremacy or separatism. Any southern Black man or worth his salt will tell you the same thing: be prepared.
Natural disasters, riots, wars, simply getting laid off…all kinds of things can happen that will just be much easier if you turn at least some of your resources towards preparation.
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If an apocalyptic scenario actually takes place, will you regret not enjoying your last years by honing your game, or will you regret not cultivating any survival skills?
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Tarl, one thing that can be done is to get a group of survivalists together who can make a plan for helping the whole town get through a crisis, so you can turn at least some of those ravening hoardes into a workforce and army.
My friends and I talk about these kinds of things, and have even decided who will be our megalomaniacal overlord. 🙂
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No…but than I live in a remote, mountain area high above the island, with only one road in and out, with two gates that offer me and the few residents in the area where I live the perfect place to set up a blockade! 🙂
Oh, and I also have my own water cachement system.
I’m ready for a post-apocalyptic paradise.
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“Gunslingergregi
And New Orleans was interesting because the shit broke down so quick before people really even got hungry.
on March 25, 2009 at 4:55 pm Gunslingergregi
Like they were just waiting for a catalyst maybe.”
That’s how negroes behave. Doesn’t take much…Look at LA, Cincy, Seattle, Crown Heights, Oakland, CA, etc…
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I think we have a greater chance of destroying ourselves rather than a rogue solar flare hitting the earth.
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The original article has its fair share of looney comments:
Another Case Of Over-egging ??
Thu Mar 26 01:45:06 GMT 2009 by Ken Weaver
Well you have fallen for it again. This is more trying to stop humans from leaving the grasp of big daddy government than anything.
You would start to say ” we do not need to be going to the moon. We have more important things to spend our money on.” Guess what. That is what they want. To scare you into stopping any reach off planet so they can have their one world order.
They want to reduce the population of the earth and keep the “limited resources” for themselves in their ivory towers. It is a bunch of scared children trying to keep us in the “cradle of humanity”. Time for the baby to walk. Take some steps out of the confines of the crib.
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The people commenting about Y2K apparently don’t realize how much effort was put into fixing things in preparation for Y2K to make sure that nothing happened…. Yes, the media hyped it, but it got managers to actually allocate budgets to deal.
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Hehe. You’ve never been to the NW, have you? Go spend some time talking to the hill-folk up here and then get back to us.
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Those who were prepared for disaster and road out Katrina at home were able to protect and maintain their property. Thus they were in better financial condition a year later.
While “The Big One” scenario is unlikely, “The Medium One” happens every few years. People who are prepared come out ahead, people who aren’t suffer significant loss of assets.
Try this experiment: walk around your home, note the supplies and food you have, estimate how long you could survive on what you have. It might surprise you.
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Don’t worry.
1) The side of the Earth not facing the sun would be shielded.
2) With the tiny but growing presence of wind farms and off-grid home solar installations, within a decade, more and more people will be less tied to the grid.
Frankly, I would be more worried about an Asteroid hitting the Earth, than a large solar flare.
Nonetheless, EVERYONE should have 5 days worth of water, canned food, flashlights, etc. in case of any disaster (natural or terrorist). Having guns and ammo helps too, as unprepared people will come to steal your belongings.
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Leave it to humans to worry about improbable risks and minimize probable ones. Something’s going to get us all eventually. I’d be more worried about cancer or a car accident, we all have a far greater chance of dying of these.
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superthug
Roissy, a post-teenage video gamer? That pontificates on who is alpha and who is beta? Really??
superthug, a (presumably) post-teenage blog reader? Who can’t understand sardonic irony?
Really?
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Leave it to humans to worry about improbable risks and minimize probable ones.
Do remember that, over evolutionary time, most human deaths have almost certainly been caused by sudden, catastrophic, violent events. It’s only in modernity that we’ve extended our lives long enough to die by such things as cancer and heart disease.
The problem is that our sense of (im)probability is outdated, not that it’s miscalibrated.
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Welmer, White people don’t have a monopoly on survivalism. What people do in the northwest is irrelevant to that point.
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there’s nothing funnier than the idea of people dying.
and unless they have more bullets than hungry people the survivalists are just painting targets on their backs.
december 21st 2012 might come and go…
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How do you watch movies for free on an internet movie database?
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Giant solar flares? Pah.
I, for one, am stocking up for the coming zombie apocalypse.
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“I don’t know what you would have to defend affe with the gay hmmm since maybe you would get lucky and the zombies would be rapists.”
Spoken like a true drunken turd-burglar. Well put, though you left out the obvious rigor mortis joke.
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I always read, never post. But I couldn’t help myself in this case. An excellent read on what U.S. civilization *might* have looked like (should such a disaster have occured in the 1970s) is Lucifer’s Hammer by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle. Of course, it’s fiction, but some interesting points for discussion/analysis are expressed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucifer%27s_Hammer
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Yeah, survivalism appeals across the board, as warpig states. For blacks in particular, who have often been victims of attacks from non-blacks with little help from the authorities, survivalism is probably more ingrained that we know.
Its similar to how most elements of the Nation of Islam actually are quite in line with social conservatism: strong hand of religion, no outside help, do-it-yourself, self-reliance, small community, no drugs, alcohol, promiscuity, man in charge, social order, nuclear family, anti-government. Like Bill Cosby said, bean pies for everyone.
I swear, if they ever go and get rid of Farakahn and the Get Whitey/Jew-haters, and the reparations crowd, they’d have a leading role in the Republican Party.
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“Survivalism has nothing to do with White nationalism or supremacy or separatism. Any southern Black man or worth his salt will tell you the same thing: be prepared.”
Apparently, none in NOL were worth their salt…
“Welmer, White people don’t have a monopoly on survivalism. What people do in the northwest is irrelevant to that point”
Yes, they do. NAMs are dependent on the gummint. As usual, you have no idea what you are talking about.
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“…and unless they have more bullets than hungry people the survivalists are just painting targets on their backs.”
Clueless…
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It’d be interesting if the “pick-up community” gradually morphed into an “apocalypse survival” community. In a way it makes sense–those men who know how to survive end times will likely be automatic lifetime alphas post-fallout.
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this shit is hot.
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PSD, the NOL folks are city folks. How many survivalists you know in cities?
PSD, simply because some survivalists cling to white supremacy doesn’t mean its a requirement.
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With regards to Katrina and people not leaving, do you have any idea how often New Orleans gets evacuated? The shear number of false alarms over the years tended to deaden the interest people take in them. One of the funnier ones was when NOLA got evacuated, everyone headed to Baton Rouge and Baton Rouge got creamed while New Orleans was just fine.
Almost all of the stuff that made the Katrina situation so nasty, though, was due to the populace and government of the place. They manage to be condescending about a place that smells like vomit and piss gumbo while being absolutely useless in helping themselves.
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“PSD, the NOL folks are city folks. How many survivalists you know in cities?”
A fair amount. I live in the NYC area, but my bug-out obviously isn’t in Manhattan.
“PSD, simply because some survivalists cling to white supremacy doesn’t mean its a requirement”
That wasn’t the point.
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Point of the zombie comment was the sheer freakiness of natural selection sometimes; it’s not who you’d always logically think it is.
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Ktulah…….for gods sakes take your picture off.
Seriously WTF?
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hey use your brain- go ahead… get those blackout shades and the stick-up kids might not hit you until sun-up
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PSD, then what was your point?
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PSD, then what is your point? You claimed that warpig was wrong because you knew of white supremacists who were survivalists, a logic that made no sense.
Unless you’re tokyo….
The smart people—the survivalists and the merely competent–got out of NOL before Katrina, because they heeded the warnings. The stupid stayed.
I live in the “NYC area” too, and I can tell you, the survivalists to non-survivalists is probably 1,000 to 1.
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sounds like the sun is the ultimate alpha.
Yes, the sun is very alpha, which is why many ancient cultures worshipped it.
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you zee, itz zimple mein fuhrer, ve must not allow a mineshaft gap
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‘Katrina showed me perfectly that when one looks at our modern way of life, one can easily see how a catastrophic event could in fact result in the breakdown of civil society.’
That’s absurd. We had no water or electricity for 3 weeks after Andrew, and society didn’t come anywhere near breaking down. Most of what you read/heard about Katrina is a myth. ABC said there were hundreds of people dying in the Superdome, there were 6:
2 ODs
3 heart attacks [statistically probable, of course]
1 suicide.
No gang rapes, no gunfire, no raiding parties.
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Thanks Cane, I was just going to post what you wrote. IIRC, a number of news outlets reported as much after the fact but of course some people like to always to believe the worse when it comes to black people(group).
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“This should be a priority for NASA before any manned space flights to Mars. I don’t want my Quake Live interrupted.”
You have got to try Red Orchestra Online (via Steam)
For the down time between
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my god, my xbox is at risk? what the hell am I doing sitting around!?!?!?!
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Suggested reading: “One Second After” about the after effects of an EMP followed by “Emergency” by Neil Strauss (Game author).
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