In the last “Great Scenes” post I showcased the game run by Paul Newman’s character in the movie Hud. This time, it’s another classic move, Pee Wee’s Big Adventure, where super alpha Pee Wee seduces the shit out of Dottie.
My comments below are in bold. How do you handle it when a girl you like flirts with you? Pee Wee shows you how.
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Kid: Is Dottie still working on your bike?
PEE WEE: No, I’ve got it back a couple days already.
Kid: What’s she doing to it?
PEE WEE: I can’t talk about it. James Bond kind of stuff.
[first rule of pickup: always be in character.]
Kid: Dottie’s radical with bikes.
DOTTIE: Hi, Pee Wee.
Kid 1: I say we cruise, dudes. It’s getting hot in here.
Kid 2: It’s steamy.
Kid 3: I’m sweating.
PEE WEE: Is my horn ready yet?
[pee wee doesn’t say “hi” back. it’s very alpha to skip pleasantries and get right to business.]
DOTTIE: It’s ready. It should be loud enough for you now.
PEE WEE: Where is it? Let’s hear it.
[demanding and brusque. alpha]
DOTTIE: Wait. I want to talk to you first.
PEE WEE: You are talking to me.
[there is a little overlap in temperament and attitude between alphas and betas, but there are also some things alphas do which betas almost *never* do. and one of those things is being a smartass. betas are hardly ever smartasses, especially with girls.]
DOTTIE: No, I want your undivided attention.
PEE WEE: *makes a face*
[nice face. teasing girls is very effective. and the best teasing is nonverbal, communicated through exaggerated facial expressions or body movements]
DOTTIE: Look Pee Wee this is important. I want to ask you something. I want to know, if you will do something?
PEE WEE: What?
[if you like a girl, and she comes on to you, a great way to respond is to act suspicious of her motives. so let’s say you’re in a bar and a girl you’ve been gaming reaches over to touch your chest. don’t jump at the first opportunity to make out. instead, say “heeey… what are you up to?” while giving her the stink eye.]
DOTTIE: I want to know if you’ll go someplace with me.
PEE WEE: Like where?
DOTTIE: The drive-in.
PEE WEE: Look, Dottie, I like you. Like! I like you.
[pee wee may be serious here and not actually like dottie, but if you do like the girl, playing a game of reverse LJBF can be a good way to heighten sexual tension. “oh i don’t know, carrie, i like you, but i’d hate to do anything that might… jeopardize… that. it’s very chancey.” be sure to telegraph your unseriousness with heavy sighs and head shaking.]
DOTTIE: I like you, too.
PEE WEE: There are a lot of things about me you don’t know anything about. Things you wouldn’t understand, you couldn’t understand. Things you shouldn’t understand.
[dramatic vocal tonality is so underused by men. all most guys know how to do is shout and bellow, like drunk fratboys. try experimenting with different voice pitches and pauses and tempos. it will add a theatrical flair to your conversation that is irresistible to women.]
DOTTIE: I don’t understand.
PEE WEE: You don’t want to get mixed up with me. I’m a Ioner, Dottie. A rebel. So long, Dot.
[The Golden Pickup Rule: Unless you can get a same night lay, always leave first. Always be the one to cut the conversation off. Always end the date first. Always be the one waving goodbye first. Chicks LOVE when a man walks away from them to journey… somewhere else, where only men with plenty of options journey. If you’re having trouble settling on a self-identity, you can’t go wrong with brooding rebel. This archetype is universally attractive to women. There’s probably a very good evo psych reason for it. So in a pinch, just tell chicks you’ve “got to be moving on. Don’t know where I’m heading, but I’m doing it alone.” Insta-pussy lube!]
Note: On a scale of 1 to 5, this post was 1 tongue in cheek.
Not that Pee Wee was too Alpha in his real life, unless you count spanking the monkey in a porno theater as “Alpha.”
Peter
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You have shown me Pee Wee’s depths in his shallowness.
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What about when he seduces Simone?
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Can someone who has a good grasp of pick-up talk a little about the dichotomy between rebel loner and leader of men?
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I guess Roissy’s a little backed up at work today. S’Okay,they cant all be gems. His “herb” stuff of the past few days was so cruelly funny and smart that he’s got a right to phone one in! 🙂 Still good to see Pee Wee,who was pretty popular for a while, his “subversive” character,presenting himself as a childs hero,with the subtext–for grownups–that his interest in children,specially li’l boys,goes beyond the parental! Tho I dont see him as alpha at all,as his indifference to the girl is not a studied affect,but a genuine boredom at the thought of the vagina—its the other thing that makes him all stuttering and redfaced. (Or at least more redfaced!)
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Gotta be careful with the rebel thing. Guys find rebels cool, girls find them wierd and creepy, unless the guy already had major alpha look & cred.
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Roissy must be a little backed up at work today! But I guess he’s got the right to phone one in on occasion,seeing how cruelly funny and smart his latest posts on the “herb” have been! Good to see Pee Wee again. He was pretty popular for a while for his subversive act;the childs hero whose interest in the kids( as perceived by the cool in the know grown-ups) went beyond the parental. His indifference to the girl tho,was less a studied alpha male technique,and more a genuine ennui at the prospect of encountering the vagina. Pee Wee no doubt would get red-faced and shy and excited and shift into full needy beta at the prospect of getting what he really wanted: the “other” thing…
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A funny article from the Onion:
“Empowered Man Murders Controlling Wife In Lifetime For Men Original Movie”
http://www.theonion.com/content/news/empowered_man_murders_controlling?utm_source=a-section
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Oh man I m sorry ! i thought my comment was lost–so I reposted. What a beta asshole!!
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More on the rebel thing being a chick magnet:
In Commie countries, during Communism’s height of power (40s-mid-50s), an average hot girl was attracted to sons of high-ranking apparatchicks and young careerist Party douchebags who mouthed all the right slogans. The anticommunist rebels were sent to jail, kicked out of work or the university, and that was the end of them.
It was only when Communism lost its luster due to the fact that people were aware of how others live in the West that anticommunist activists were hot. The jeans & rock and roll thing.
Bottom line: girls dig power, and only rebels whose star is rising are hot. Lost-causers are losers.
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Pee-wee has got Game.
Classic “Takeaway”. Straight out the Alpha playbook.
Takeaways are completely underused, but keep in mind, they only work if you have Game.
Me?
I use them all the time.
Voice tonality is also extremely underused as you mentioned.
Me?
I use it every day on fly girls.
“Some girls say I’m the cutest
others say I’m the rudest,
meditate like a Budist
expose em like a Nudist” – off Cam’ron’s new street banger.
(courtesy of Cannon’s Cannon)
– MPM
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Good post.
I found some of Pee Wee’s comments to be rather cryptic. Especially when he mentions to Dot that she just wouldn’t understand what he’s about.
Wasn’t he charged or convicted of luring children in real life?
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“Tho I dont see him as alpha at all,as his indifference to the girl is not a studied affect,but a genuine boredom at the thought of the vagina—its the other thing that makes him all stuttering and redfaced.”
I think you miss the point though. Even if PeeWee is not conscious of what he’s doing, the effect is the same. Watch Dottie’s eyes after PeeWee drops the “Things you shouldn’t understand” line. She’s dripping with desire by this point. He’s gotten her to chase him simply by being utterly indifferent to the outcome of his interaction. That is a monstrous frame.
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I gotta say, finding game in Pee_wee movie is hilarious. good job, Roissy.
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PA’s last comment does a good job of this i think.
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Roissy must be a little backed up at work today. I am quite witty with that statement. However, I guess he’s got the right to phone one in on occasion. Especially seeing how cruelly funny and smart his latest posts on the “herb” have been! Good to see Pee Wee again. He was pretty popular for a while for his subversive act — the child’s hero whose interest in the kids went beyond the parental. His indifference to the girl tho, blah blah blah I’m a fucktard
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http://www.megavideo.com/?v=UOKLO1Q5
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PA, in the post-War (and even pre-War, Depression Era West) the “rebel” had considerable social and romantic power.
In the West, “rebels” or non-conformists faced relatively few risks after say 1860 or so, when violence declined dramatically. You had many a guy posing as either an “outlaw” or Byronic figure or both, from guys pretending to be a Jessie James light, or Clyde Barrow light, to James Dean’s posing.
What the Rebel Pose does is signal that a guy is so important he can stand out, be different, and reject social mores and demands. Because his high testosterone and ability to handle himself in a fight allows him to dominate rivals who stay in social modes.
James Dean characters particularly set the mode: they rebel against social mores, the fight a preppy-type, rule-abiding upper class for a girl, and generally beat them in physical fights. The modern inheritors of Billy Idol and the numerous vampire fantasy figures all have those same James Dean characteristics: moody outsider with working-class style who is so high value/status/power-laded that he can defeat the most preppy of preppy connected guys.
At a metaphoric level it’s Ghengis Khan vs. Chinese or Muslim emperors, the tough nomad who breaks cities vs. the soft and effeminate hereditary king. It’s no accident the Dean archetypes ride motorcycles and guys flock to motorcycles for the emotional response they generate in women.
More evidence indeed as Roissy posted yesterday that women are hard-wired for polygamy, soft or hard.
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Ya wanna read an awesome novel on Game in the time of Communism? Check out Milan Kundera’s “The Unbearable Lighness of Being.” Came out in the 80s.
It’s about a young Czech super-alpha doctor who gets fired form work for some trivial anti-Communist act and takes a job as a window-washer… which, due to his natural alphahood, quintuples his number of lays.
The movie is pretty good, but the book is even better. It covers all of the stuff discussed here: sluts, good girls, game, shrewish wives, and idiot Western leftist douchebags — shown as such.
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I NEVER thought of Pee Wee as alpha, but I can see Roissy’s point now that he’s spelled it out.
Pee Wee was all about outrageous contradictions. He was this slight man acting like a young adolescent or pre-adolescent, very possibly gay, who nonetheless did keep attracting the romantic interest of chicks. While there was a lot of absurdity to that, there were also some things that rang kinda true.
Those things I now realize were game.
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Rebels always get girls.
See: Dillinger, Machine Gun Kelly, Legs Diamond, Pretty Boy Floyd and Baby faced Nelson.
Playboys all.
Butch Cassidy and The Sundance kid were no slouches either.
– MPM
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bcg
Neither is very concerned with the opinions of others. Both are willing to tread their own path. They do not need your approval. The do not need anyone’s approval.
The leader type is more extravert. He wants to bring others on his journey.
Motto: “This is me. Join me on my exciting journey or just get out of the way.”
The loner type is going on his journey, with or without you. He is not bitter but has a certain “fuck you” attitude to the world.
Motto: “This is me. I am heading this way. Join me if you want. Stay with them if you want. But do not tell me what to do.”
Simpler motto: “Fuck ’em if they can’t take a joke”
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This was my second favorite scene of movie Game in high school! I always used those lines on my fellow high school chix to see if they’d get the reference. They barely ever did.
My first favorite scene of movie Game in high school? Bruce Campbell in Army of Darkness::
“Close the door! Were you born in a barn?? Yeah, you probably were born in a barn, with all the other animals.”
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I just bought The Unbearable Lightness of Being – now I’m even more excited to read it.
On a related note, someone here recommended Disgrace awhile back – excellent book. Thanks.
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..and yes, it was probably unhelpful to learn Game from movie parodies of Game instead of genuine movie illustrations of Game.. but I was in high school, dammit! I was watching Pee Wee, not Gone With the fucking Wind.
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Roissy,
You’d better ‘quit while you’re ahead’. If you keep this trajectory going, you’ll be extolling the alpha nature of Mister Rogers sweater and shoes and the noble savage characteristics of the Cookie Monster on Sesame Street!
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(No spoilers) “The Unbearable Lightness of Being” has one major character that gets mocked here all the time… the nice-guy with a good job Beta who puts a woman on a pedestal and does every wrong thing you could possibly do to woo a woman.
I haven’t read the book since before I was aware of Game. I need to re-read it.
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“the noble savage characteristics of the Cookie Monster on Sesame Street!”
Cookie Monster had way more Game than Earnie or Bert.
True hedonist.
(But he was too emotional)
Dictating the conversation with questions. Kino escalation. And finally gets what he wants.
Side note:
I also get my suits custom made with a “Cookie Monster Blue” interior.
Savile Row.
– MPM
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Dam you guys actually watched pee wee. Time to stick on the gay pride pins and just go to the dark side. lol
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Rain and you must now watch every clint eastwood movie made to erase pee wee from your mind. You too Roissy.
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The Count was a true Pimp.
Here is The Count VS Cookie Monster.
True alpha.
Outsmarting his rivals.
Sharp dresser too.
– MPM
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Kermit was a beta.
Cookie Monster is an Alpha.
This girl can’t even do her ABC’s without mentioning The Monster.
– MPM
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Cookie Monster VS Ernie.
Ernie is the beta.
Cookie Monster just straight bullies him.
– MPM
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Sorry Roissy – I agree with James/Charles and some others here – this makes no sense. PeeWee is very far from Alpha. Even though the lines and frame represent strong game in theory, in practice it comes across as a kiddie imitation of the real thing. There’s no sexual tension, or even hint of sexuality, in the whole scene. (Except when the teenage boys make their remarks and promptly leave.) Context is everything, and PeeWee’s persona (voice, movements, clothes, facial tics, name, etc.) are infantilized and infantilizing. Even the female’s reaction seems like little-girl play-acting. As for the other comments re rebels and their appeal: Seriously? Really? Comparing PeeWee Herman to James Dean? On what planet is this reasonable, I’d like to know. On the Unbearable Lightness of Being – great book, great movie, but I still don’t know what it has to do with PeeWee. this whole post and commentary are kind of surreal to me. Paul Newman and Clark Gable were better models for those of us over 12.
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Did Roissy ever post the clip of Han Solo and Princess Leia in Empire Strikes Back? The one when they are on the planet fixing something, and he totally owns her. My favorite scene of masculine versus feminine in a movie.
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“Rebel” here means someone who could be leading a safer and more comfortable life, but who chooses otherwise.
The creepy rebels that people are thinking of are more appropriately named “drop-outs,” “pariahs,” “losers,” etc. Guys who think they’re badass for having long hair and wearing a Master of Puppets t-shirt.
Being rebellious because you can be vs. because you have to be — that difference tells girls who has options. Girls also pick up instantly on the emotional differences between the two: being confident and cocky vs. being angry and bitter.
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“Cookie Monster had way more Game than Earnie or Bert.
True hedonist.”
When Cookie Monster learned game, he evolved into the Crookie Monster and continued down the path of aloof hedonism.
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More good Movie Game: The Outsiders
Dallas Winston picks up on Cherry Valance: (start watching at 4:51)
Dallas Winston smokes cigarettes with mad style and makes strong moves.
It doesn’t “appear” to work.
But then Cherry Valance falls in love with him.
Puro “Rebel” Game.
– MPM
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This is a persona favorite:
I love the Beta reactions too. In fact, DAZED AND CONFUSED is a tremendous film for analyzing the alpha/beta dichotomy and its varying degrees. You have a full spectrum of betas (Anthony Rapp, Adam Goldberg, the timid jocks) and a full spectrum of alphas (Clint, Pink, and Wooderson, in that order).
Another great scene:
Watch how Grant handles this situation. Also, I can think of very few other films with nary a beta in sight. But guys like Hawks, Walsh, Ford, etc. were real men.
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For an example of pure, over-the-top, triple-dose testosterone fueled Alpha Game in the movies I nominate Vincent Mancini/Corleone in Godfather 3. Yeah, the movie itself was an embarrassment in comparison to the first two but watching the scene where young Vincent swoops Bridget Fonda was like watching Jimi Hendrix playing “Wild Thing” at the Monterrey Pop Festival – something one does not see very often. Nothing subtle at all, but a pure art form nonetheless.
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Dr. Grzlickson – What about when he seduces Simone?
That’s when he was playing Mr. Sensitive.
Pee Wee had to suppress his natural Alpha Game in order to get a chick who already had an Alpha but who was frustrated with his controlling ways.
This is known as the Sneaky Fucker technique. Sometimes you need to set aside the swaggering Alpha and play Mr. Sensitive when you want to take advantage of a woman who is emotionally vulnerable.
Death in the family, dominating boyfriend, her cat is missing…whatever
Simone’s boyfriend was a 7’2″ jealous Alpha. She was vulnerable to Mr. Sensitive. Pee Wee was aware of that and went in for the kill.
Classic.
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You saw him skipping outside? After making Dotties panties super soaking wet! He was grimacing at the end like “Little does she know I read roissy’s blog to arouse her.”
Dudes, a fuckin Alpha.
No Doubt.
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“and one of those things is being a smartass. betas are hardly ever smartasses, especially with girls.]”
true in many cases. most betas don’t want to rock the boat too much for fear of pissing the girl off.
but there are some betas who are *always* smart asses. its a mask for lack of actual game, meaningful conversation, or positively differentiating qualities. the “pinch the girl on the schoolyard tactic” is all they have in their game repertoire, and it’s more annoying than betas who suck up to chicks all the time.
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whiskey:
is it even possible to have a james dean like character this day and age?
i mean, i know it’s only 50-something years since his death, but it seems lots of things have changed.
first, the 1950s was the frontier of *the* biggest cultural shift in american history. the 60s get all the credit, but it all started with jazz, the Beats, james dean etc. in the late 1940s and 1950s.
today, given our recent history of 1960s civil unrest mixed with unrest over that unrest, ad infinitum, its really hard for anyone to be a true rebel. people have taken their sides in the cultural wars and in their social values, now its just a matter of where you fall on that spectrum.
dean was considered a rebel because basically, he just didn’t give a fuck. there are *plenty* of guys like that today, but i dont’ see women flocking to them with the same lust they did with someone like Dean. sure there are some, but the rebel has lost his romantic status in our times.
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Chuck
“but there are some betas who are *always* smart asses. its a mask for lack of actual game, meaningful conversation, or positively differentiating qualities.”
Excellent point. That is one of my issues with the teaching of “Game” (and why to some degree, I have never done so).
Many “techniques” of Game are dangerous in the wrong hands.
Rum
“For an example of pure, over-the-top, triple-dose testosterone fueled Alpha Game in the movies I nominate Vincent Mancini/Corleone in Godfather 3. ”
Its funny you say that, as many older girls (who were around during that era) have said I remind them of a young Andy Garcia.
I don’t really see it myself. I am way doper than that cat.
– MPM
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“but the rebel has lost his romantic status in our times.”
Valid point.
Celebrities, Athletes and musicians have taken over.
“The International Playboy” has lost some of his shine too in recent times.
I still carry the torch for them though, and I wouldn’t have it any other way.
– MPM
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Guys who think they’re badass for having long hair and wearing a Master of Puppets t-shirt.
I miss those guys. Metalheads were the backdrop of my teens in the 80s. Not my crowd and some were assholes itching for a fight, but good guys mostly.
Prole white guys today? Whigger dumbasses with shaved heads, droopy pants, and a simian beebop in their walk.
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The rebel lost his romantic status because the last group of rebels won and did remake society. Now if you’re a rebel you don’t look like a future winner, you look like a loser who can’t make it.
Women always want the winning team.
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Women always want the winning team.
Fair-weather fans, the lot of them.
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roissy: This is hilarious! You’d make an awesome dad, in a very strange way. You know what this blog is? It’s you fulfilling your desire to pass on your legacy. Just have those kids already.
Metalheads: stoned, drunk, long-haired, gym-deprived, serious mental health issues, creepy (in a ‘she’s 15/has braces & puts out?! AWESOME’ way) often internetchan-obsessed is the picture I’ve seen from this generation. I bet tokyo used to listen to metal, may he RIP.
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Tupac Chopra: Let’s see what a rich and famous dude does who has tonnes of choices. What’s that, a SERIES of relationships in which he’s dumping women for YOUNGER, PRETTIER models? Oh, such love and loyalty. I guess one thing is that men are consistent in which ‘team’ it is, even if the members of the team keep getting dumped because of their expiry date.
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nice roissy, a true master can find wisdom anywhere he looks. thanks for the laugh, off to swoop!
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Bhetti:
The difference is, men will pursue, often ruthlessly, a particular ideal, even if it means hurting others’ feelings.
Women have no sense of idealism in any intellectual or philosophical sense.
They just go for what’s popular, or is about to become popular.
I always loved that scene from “As Good As It Gets”, when the romance-novel writer, played by Jack Nicholson, is asked by a fan: “How do you write women so well?”
“I think of a man, and I take away reason and accountability.”
It’s funny because it’s true.
P.S. durka durka
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Women always want the winning team.
Why would you want to support the loser?
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PussyFaggotShitStain:
Why would you want to support the loser?
Do you believe in mob rule?
Every heard of something called integrity? Truth?
Die already.
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Bhetti
I cannot disparage the outrage that women feel when they are dumped for someone younger and prettier. I know it must suck. But please keep in mind that serial hot girl friend options for a Rock Star guy would be impossible; a complete non-starter, if hot young things did not eagerly choose to keep the train rolling.
Also, try to keep in mind that a side effect of the choice made by the hottest chicks to stand in line for a Tupac is that legions of earnest, basically decent guys get nothing. They do not even a few good times & then get dumped; they get locked out from the start.
Idiot feminists look at a Lion Pride and call it “male privilege” because one alpha male seems to have it pretty good. Overlooked is that fact that 9 out of 10 males die alone without having gotten near a receptive female. Meanwhile essentially all the females survive and have sex when they want it with only the best male(s).
I do sympathize with you, but only a little.
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Tupac Chopra: I’m not feeling bitchy enough to generalise unfairly about men 😦 which I should do after your comments, but my androgens aren’t sufficiently high at the moment to summon this anger.
I’ve come from a place where men don’t have to answer to anyone, which caused me to become a man-hating feminist, so don’t you start on that. I’m actually softening up a little with the advantages of observing the beautiful hybrid products of the West.
Hmm, your statement about the pursuit of ideals is sufficiently vague/abstract enough to be difficult for me to dispute. Give an example of what you mean? Is it a virtue to be ‘ruthless’ about it?
Seeking talked about his significant other being with him through ‘stoner’ years in another thread, if that’s the sort of thing you’re talking about.
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Every heard of something called integrity? Truth?
My grandfather did that back in the 1950s, and he ended up squandering his efforts on a presidential candidate that didn’t win, and instead of offering his services to the victor, he ended up going nowhere and eventually watched his plantation turn to crap due to Hurricane Hazel, so pardon me if I’m a bit more pragmatic about things. Depending on the circumstances, steadfast adherence to losing may be sensible choice, and in other cases, it may mean the difference between life and death.
To quote Deng Xiaoping…
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Bhetti,
High status men rotate women because women have no self-restraint that stops them from putting out for men who would never commit to them.
It works out fine for men because once you learn game you discover that even though you thought you wanted a girlfriend the qualities it takes to get the one you pick work for getting any other women you can pick too. When you reach that point you can fulfill the man dream of (a) always available sex with (b) new attractive women.
In the long run this doesn’t work out to well for society. Fuck society if it can’t take a joke.
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Hmm, your statement about the pursuit of ideals is sufficiently vague/abstract enough to be difficult for me to dispute. Give an example of what you mean? Is it a virtue to be ‘ruthless’ about it?
I’m short on time, but in a nutshell: men will commit to Truth even when it is not popular or attracts opprobrium. They (ideally) pledge fidelity to The Facts, even if it is in the service of amoral ends.
Women on the other hand almost never* mature beyond Piaget’s childhood developmental stage of being drawn towards Shiny Things, which are usually “pretty lies.”
Game capitalizes on this fact.
(* exceptions made for my Immortal Beloved, you know who you are)
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Rum: have not been dumped yet or have been older but thank ye on behalf of the female gender? I’m certainly not looking for sympathy or anything on that subject, just pointing out ‘loyalty’ is all about your perspective or definition of what it is and I don’t think it’s THAT gender specific.
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My grandfather did that back in the 1950s, and he ended up squandering his efforts on a presidential candidate that didn’t win, and instead of offering his services to the victor, he ended up going nowhere and eventually watched his plantation turn to crap due to Hurricane Hazel, so pardon me if I’m a bit more pragmatic about things. Depending on the circumstances, steadfast adherence to losing may be sensible choice, and in other cases, it may mean the difference between life and death.
Fair enough, I’m all for practicality too, but this issue is one which cleaves the essence of Masculinity and Femininity.
If you go *too* far in the wrong direction, you become a bitch with no self-respect.
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What? Please try again. Even if you have to get sober first.
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Not a lot of flavor on here today, save from your humble author.
(possibly the down economy?)
I am off to go swoop, sun is out in Southern California, wine tasting with a fly latina.
Ciao.
– MPM
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Steve: I know what you mean. It’s not my fault the chocolates are there, unwrapped, begging for me to eat them. It really isn’t. Oh, they’re so good, Steve, so damn good, those endorphin-producing pieces of heaven. These chocolates have no self-restraint. I’m such a loyal girl to my cabbage, except when I have lots of disposable cash and ready access to those sweet thangs who’re begging for it, who I’ve always dreamed of. Then, loyalty to my health or whatever? That’s out of the window. Stupid chocolates.
Wait, Tupac, what stage is it in Piaget’s development when you project blame on to ‘objects’?
Tupac: I think you need to explain more about the reference to Piaget later. I’ll assume — seperate from that — you mean women are materialistic/obsessed by objects and not by abstract ideals? I certainly hope you aren’t talking about cognition, because I’m going to just resort to caveman violence if you do (proving your point, but giving me pleasure 😉 )
Rum: sorry, man, serious addiction to multiple substances (what the hell do they put in chocolate?). But, I’ll try, just for you.
I have not personally been a victim of being dumped as an older woman. Your language seemed to imply this to me. I’m going to assume what you were actually doing was addressing the whole female gender. The point of what I was saying was to make a small comment about the quality of loyalty in regards to men, not garnering sympathy for the female gender. Men have their fair share of crap to deal with too, I won’t deny that, and I try to have equal sympathy for each individual case.
We clear? Because I really don’t want to lay off these substances. G Manifesto’s goods are awesome. No wonder he swoops so much in exchange for them.
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Still comes down to people being able to make descisions and then stick with them. Now on the guy who became rock star carraselling through woman. Well yea umm they may not have wanted him before but they do when he becomes a star. So yea maybe a little bit of he knows why they are there he doesn’t feel like he needs to be loyal. Guy who trades in the wife he can’t keep a commitment. Although hey muslim religion makes it easy you don’t have to throw one away to get another. With current policy you kind of have to.
“”””””””Bhetti,
you mean women are materialistic/obsessed by objects and not by abstract ideals?””””””””””””””
Yea I think Tupac hit that on the head for a lot of people. He He He
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I’m not obsessed with objects. I live my life by the ideal, I am going to live my life thanklessly as a doctor with long hours employed by the money-starved UK NHS, saving li– omg, IS THAT A REAL ROLEX?! I can now send my little sister to private school!
*rolls eyes* I think the reason women can be like that is because of anti-feminist ideals such as that they can live their lives permanently on beauty alone.
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ahahahahahhaha
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That needs to go in the book
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Allright Bhetti seriously you are gonna be (one of) my woman (after you finish medical school of course)
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Bhetti
Ha! I am also a Doctor but not in the cash starved NHS. More like a vested partner in an obscenely lucrative US practice.
Off topic: Our new President has only a few hours remaining to prove he has the Right Stuff to do his job. If he does not very soon give orders to slaughter those Somali Pirates he will stand revealed as a guy with small, soft hands and the equipment below the waist of an hispanic 10 year old.
Welcome back, J. Carter!!!
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lol rum quite showing her shiny objects she might get confused
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I’m still laughing over the previous one.
Yea umm somali pirate can anyone believe they are still alive?
How the fuck can they still be messing with shipping with those tiny boats. Got to say they got some balls. Or we don’t know how to use technology pathetic.
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This is truly horrible … the Google Street View camera van caught a hideous pedophilic Bald Eagle in action!!!!
Peter
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Rum let me borrow some loot I’ll go and anti somali protect the ships. No more hijackings and no more money for insurance.
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Swoop hard tonight everyone. Family obligations are going to kill the scenes tomorrow.
And yeah, I remember reading how to run tight Christmas Eve game. I’m not buying it this weekend. Less stress and a lot more piety in the air.
Just pressed my pocket square. Will I wear the same one Sunday morning? (I give my mom two church services a year.)
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“Metalheads: stoned, drunk, long-haired, gym-deprived”
Metal and rap are the two most masculine forms of music, just like paleocon and libertarian are the two masculine political outlooks.
The fat, skinny, and muscular sub-genres of all those affiliations exist. The most physically intimidating white guy at your high school probably listened to metal. The most physically intimidating black guy listened to rap.
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Rum: I’m a lowly medical student at the moment. Still: You and your shiny US practices. Even as we speak, the best and brightest of our graduates are secretly studying for your USMLE exams on the backs of UK government subsidy. Pretty much men by the way! I’m not sure if it’s a lack of ambition or relative lack of materialism (at least, in the context of own income rather than future partners) or an allergy to immigrate that’s keeping the women here or an amalgamation of all this. I think you can earn a nice income here still, but it can be at the expense of quality of care (cutting corners, meeting targets in dodgy ways) rather than providing it. I’m actually intending to take those exams because I’d like to live in the US (roissy is personally keeping me out otherwise, why roissy, why?) but it’ll be a lot of work comparatively.
Gunny: Tempting offer which I don’t deserve, but I know your rolexes aren’t real. Seriously, though, I’m not doing an internet relationship again! Especially as the unmarried other woman of a non-muslim.
Rain And: I live in the UK. The truly intimidating ones all listen to rap/R&B: be they white, black, peach, colour of curdled milk… its chavs or gangstas, innit. Metal was the reserve of the geeks who let out all their beta frustrations only in mosh pits. Well, actually, they still do at uni. I suppose there’s always room for cultural differences.
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I suppose being ‘friends’ with the metalheads doesn’t help my perspective. Still, the most intimidating metal guy I can think of got physically dominated by my very metro, pacifist brother (the guy was only expressing his admiration for me or something, but I think something Arabic got instilled in my brother when it came to me at least). He was also some sort of metal/chav hybrid.
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just like paleocon and libertarian are the two masculine political outlooks
Libertarianism may be masculine in the sense that a Libertarian Party convention is a major fiesta de chorizo, but it’s certainly not Alpha. In fact, it’s about as PIBLN* as you can get.
* = Pathologically Introverted Beta Loser Nerd
Peter
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Bhetti
In my group practice, we give preference to British trained Docs. (because most Americans are natural Anglophiles – even if you are moslem) Heck, we give preference to any foreign trained MD who has a good story of escaping tyranny & oppression. We are quite soft-hearted for that kind of thing. It is in our genes.
BTW, our newest associates get 200,000 plus USD per year.
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“Once you label me, you negate me” Soren Kierkegaard
Good qoute from waynes world.
“Never cease loving a person, and never give up hope for him, for even the prodigal son who had fallen most low, could still be saved; the bitterest enemy and also he who was your friend could again be your friend; love that has grown cold can kindle”
He He He
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Rum and Tood in same boat. Dam got to kick rums ass now. Ain’t life a bitch.
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Bhetti does kind of bring up an interesting dynamic on the whole woman in the home thing. Interesting shit. Although becoming a doctor. Which might actually be considered a carreer. See bhetti how woman are never going to be equal in the workplace and there is no need for laws to “protect” them. It will always be unequal opportunity. Obviously you are also thought of. Even though no man has seen your picture. Kind of probably messes with the head on that too I bet.
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Rum: Does it take a maths degree to calculate how many chocolates that would buy? I kid. Savings accounts, pensions(roth IRAs?), insurance , maybe betting on gunny’s mad investment schemes with a portion of ‘fun risk!’ money. Giving sister a decent drug/pregnancy/gangsta-free education. I’ve been reading up on finance management because I need to depend on myself. Boring things! I’d like my money to grow but I’m not much of a businesswoman and will have to play it safe.
So how quickly do you dispose of these poor associates after they’ve done their jobs? We all know what that formaldehyde stink means. You can’t dish out that sort of cash in this economy.
If you’re up for an English medical student or two annoying you, following you around and getting some clinical skills when they can fly over, you can hook me up with some contact details via e-mail and I’ll try to take advantage of them! It will probably be friends of mine, since I’m not getting into the US on any context with the documents I have any time soon.
Gunny: why’re these guys getting the beatins?
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Female Docs in the UK do about one half of the work of male MDs – over a lifetime.
The thing speaks for itself. I personally welcome the entry of lots of females into my profession. The net effect is that I can increase my fees because of the disappearance of my actual competition. The Iron Law of supply & demand.
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Tood and Rum are both anti american hiring which really means they are anti white male hiring because they couldn’t not hire anyone else. Rum is the only one I was talking about beating though he keeps throwing shiny objects and you bit. So in reality I should maybe thank him ? So maybe I was the one who needed slapped. Lol is kind of messed up that I do hear the same thing about hiring where I work which again translates to not hiring white males. Hence I will have to have my investments work and soon as it looks like I will be unable to work for someone else in the future.
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Unless of course it is china as I am sure they would like to know how to exterminate the rest of the world. See what happens when you do not hire white. lol
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Probably won’t come to that since I did hear that mcdonalds was paying 16 an hour and that would be enough to finish my plan. I wasn’t talking shit to DA yesterday I think that is all it takes to get rich.
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Plus put a little irony into it.
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Rum:
‘Oh, Tom, these high heels are killiiing me *demonstrates high-heeled clad foot*, I need to go change, you do the life-saving cardioversion on this flatliner *bats mascaraed eyelashes*’
Or is it all the maternity leave?
Everyone seemed to be putting the same amount of work to me!
Gunny: You want the best doctors, not the local ones, believe me. There’re enough natural restrictions that a guy who’s literally number one in our year is regularly voicing nervousness of being eligible for a job — nevermind getting a really good one — in the US with the results he’s been expecting to get at the exams you need to get into the American healthcare system. They should be good quality hires, because those exams aren’t cheap or easy.
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Our nurse anesthetists make on average 140,000 usd. Year after year. Why sd we dispose of a good Doc like you? We are the kind of guys who want to feel good about themselves/ as heroes & redeemers..
You have a paranoid streak. The kind of folks who got on leaky little boats to come here across the howling N. Atlantic by & large were crazily optimistic. Take a deep breath and decide…
A person is either a natural American or they are not. If not; stay where you are and stop complaining.
Our group elects its own leadership. Our two principle elected leaders are a guy born in Holland a short little Jewish chick from Florida. We are all bursting with money.
Welcome to America.
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My mother moved to the UK a few years ago on crazy jobless securityless circumstances like that with tenuous reasons, from a highpaying job to absolute joblessness in a strange, new, liberal world. Is that insanity genetic? Only I can answer that question and I’m going to keep that — for once — private!
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I don’t see Pee Wee as very alpha. Sure, he does takeaways, but his tonality sucks, and he looked quite Beta relative to those bikers.
Some of the best Alpha dialog in film is James Bond’s teasing of MoneyPenny.
Also, check out Face (Dirk Benedict) from the A-Team. Sure, he has the advantage of being a male 9-10 in looks, but his always-be-escalating, amused mastery, quick-kino style is useful to observe. No wonder unashamedly male shows like the A-Team would never, ever, be created is this wussed down, SWPL, faggotized era.
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“Tood and Rum are both anti american hiring ”
What? When did I say such a thing?
Provide a link. I think you must be thinking of someone else.
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Tood,
Aren’t you the engineer that has 4 people under him. Who said a bs (note the irony) degree from a foreign country was better than a ms from the us.
See Rum is offering “if you do what I say I will be your slave.”
Take his offer for a couple of years then I can offer your dream of helping the underpriveledged part time while still making a shitload of money while dropping out of the hard work of keeping up with rum and not having kids 🙂
Really 200 should not be hard. Even with mcdonalds.
Looking at 184 when I am done with the plan. Except there will be plenty of time for lovin.
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Maybe I should contact mcd’s just to see if they would be with it. Could become an advertisement to recruit hire. Look at this guy became financially independant working at mcd’s. We are all about the community bla bla bla
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Not a lot of flavor on here today, save from your humble author.
Agreed. I was just in a mood. Much better now.
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Nice to see the lovely E.G. Daily again. For full breast exposure, see ‘Valley Girl’.
Hilarious post, roissy. And nice follow-up, whoever posted that clip of Pee Wee and Simone. An Eighties cult classic.
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When “game” goes awry, volume 410:
Fast forwarding through my night, I found myself in a veritable dive bar, overdressed in a fresh suit, no tie, white pocket square. G would not know about this suit game, but it was a Jos. A Bank Traveller that I got at the end of last year on the buy one get one free sale. Not a bad suit amidst 90% of suits.
The girls worth opening at this shithole were hoarded by guys. I wound up chatting up the cute bartender, which I seem to have been inclined to do lately, with some positive feedback but not much ultimate banging out of said bartenders. They are so easy to open, but have proved elusive to close. This hurdle will be overcome soon.
I work to exploit all my game, as well as my high status from being overdressed. Coincidentally, the first substantive question I’m asked is what I do: being a good soldier, I tell her I work with my hands. Not good enough! What do you really do? I don’t really do ANYTHING, but I’d LIKE to be a bartender like you! “Oh yeah, why?” … “OK so what do you REALLY do” I’m semi-retired. “What does that mean??” I’m looking to start another business. “Oh yeah, what kind?” Well, my passion is in offshore asset protection, but I have always thought I would just loooove to own my own bar someday. Seems like so much fun.
This was the last of my job questions. (This chick looked 22 btw)
Anyway, I ran some more technique, which I do not need to bore anyone with, especially since it did not work. My final play, having her leaning in and telling her that I understood how she couldn’t give out her phone number to guys at her bar, would be to go back to her tabs and write it down for me, and give it to me like a check. She said she would but she had a boyfriend. Like a cat reflex, “OH! So does my girlfriend!” We volleyed a bit more without product. At least my monster tab came to $19.50 (I had ordered many $9 cocktails from her, all for myself).
Now finally to the punchline: WHEN GAME GOES AWRY!!!
I walk out of the dive bar, drunk and scorned. I am ready to say anything to anyone. I am ‘wipe me down’ fresh with my outfit. Two high maintenance broads come strutting down the sidewalk immediately after I say peace to the doorman. Without blinking, I tell the brunette, “You shouldn’t wear your hair like that!”
She almost stops, instead slowing down. “My hair? Did you just tell me I shouldn’t wear my hair like this?” Her blonde friend on her other shoulder also repeats this: “Did you tell her not to wear her hair like that???”
I am grinning as I am about to reply, “Yes, it attracts the wrong type of g-”
“ayyy!”
“the FUCK DID YOU JUST SAY ABOUT HER??!?!?!?!?!”
“the FUCK DID THAT DUDE JUST SAY ABOUT YOU??!?!?!?!?!”
the girls start braying “no no guys, just everyone just get in the cabs,” actually maybe only one, i think the girl in subject would have let her dogs out on me.
I’m smart enough to keep my smirk to the other side of the street. I was walking at an angle, so I fade away from sight pretty quickly. Fucking bridge and tunnel crew in Manhattan – I gave them 70% long island and 30% jersey likelihood. Probably should be skewed more toward LI, since jersey kids have a few decent, terrible fistpumping venues up north nowadays, so I hear.
I would have gladly fought the two dudes i heard, but I suspected it would have been a marching army of d-bags. Plus, I was kinda flossy, which absolutely steered my disposition against a fight.
By 3am, the rest of the sets were all mixed, and majority dudes. I finally stuck with one that featured a chinese girl with her boyfriend and a korean girl who was a nerd, therefore not the commensurate pussy faucet to my charms. I wound up telling my beef story to her white suitors, who bought me my final stoli tonic of the night.
I then asked the cab driver to take me to the F train. He told me he’d take me back to BK for 25% off, because the economy sucks. I agreed and immediately jumped on here to share my tale. Fuckin roissy…
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Pee Wee’s biggest beta quality: fast jerky movements.
His biggest alpha quality: sticking to this Commandment of Poon: III. You shall make your mission, not your woman, your priority
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PA – Pee Wee’s biggest beta quality: fast jerky movements.
The tapered flood pants are a close second.
His biggest alpha quality: sticking to this Commandment of Poon: III. You shall make your mission, not your woman, your priority
It’s hard to focus on only one of Pee Wee’s Alpha qualities because he has so many.
Calm and cool under pressure.
Always capable of getting himself out of a bad situation.
And the man could dance! Chicks love a man who moves with confidence and grace on the dance floor.
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Yesterday I saw a clip of US Destroyers sailing to Somali waters to fight the pirates.
A thought occurred to me: will any pirate speedboats be blown out of the water? will pirate motherships be fired at? will the pirates on Maersk Alabama be captured, lined up on the edge of an aircraft carriers deck and shot like dogs? A punitive strafing of a coastal Somali slum?
Heh. Probably not. Such a fearsome navy, but like a guy whose giant cock is utterly useless because he won’t approach girls.
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agnostic wrote:
Being rebellious because you can be vs. because you have to be — that difference tells girls who has options. Girls also pick up instantly on the emotional differences between the two: being confident and cocky vs. being angry and bitter.
Agnostic, do you feel that if bitterness over our federal governments outrageous actions were to double in the population overnight, that would be a bad thing?
I feel the need to make a point here, with two simple questions.
Who is more attractive to girls:
A.Someone with an optimistic attitude?
B.Someone with a pessimistic attitude?
Who is less likely to be eaten be a tiger(or killed in war)?
A.Someone with an optimistic attitude?
B.Someone with a pessimistic attitude?
So we can see that being overly optimistic is good for getting women to like you, but bad in that it can get you eaten by tigers/dead in a war.
In a not surprising and not shocking turn of events, characteristics present in large sections of the population serve a purpose.
Just because an attitude doesn’t serve a purpose ALL THE TIME AND IN EVERY SITUATION, that attitude may still serve a purpose in certain situations. Often, for certain extreme attitudes, absolutely vital situations.
Mike may be hyper-vigilant, and it may cause problems most of his life. However, during a war, he feels ‘something is wrong’ and hits the ground seconds before someone shoots him. Maybe Mike’s hyper-vigilance is downright destructive for him every day of his life…. except on the day he would have died.
So is the attitude good or bad for Mike?
Well it was certainly good on the day he would have died.
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will any pirate speedboats be blown out of the water? will pirate motherships be fired at?
I suspect no due to the fear of hostages on the ships.
will the pirates on Maersk Alabama
There are no pirates on the ship, and the ship has returned on course with US Navy sailors on board to ensure its security.
A punitive strafing of a coastal Somali slum?
Very unlikely since white people are now “better” than that. Yes, we have a half-African president, but he’s half-WASP too. OTOH, a easy civilian-free pirate area is pretty much fair game at this point.
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Gunslinger–
Leaving aside how to handle this particular case (which is not to pay a ransom) for now, the solution to the Somali pirate crisis is this:
Gather a coalition of the willing, ideally but unlikely including NATO but definitely including the Gulf States (who have paid pirates the post by higher insurance rates), and then declare WAR on Somalia. Ok, warn them first and demand that they sink their own pirate ships. Failing that, go in and sink the entire fleet of Somali ships that are large enough to act as offshore mother ships for fast speedboat attacks on pirate ships. That’s right, sink THEM ALL. It’s war. And piracy is an act of war as well.
It’s not a country with central authority you say? Too damn bad. They’re lucky we’re not imposing one on them. Again.
Then tell them next we start further air bombing attacks inland where we just think tribal leaders coordinating and profiting from the pirating might be, and oops if we’re wrong and have to keep going at it.
Yeah I know, ain’t gonna happen. God damn nambie pampie western lefties. It’s ridiculous. It’s not how we used to do things, like e.g. on the Barbary Coast.
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Next that is if the piracy resumes down the line.
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Oh and no, we don’t give them money right after to rebuild their “offshore fishing fleet”.
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Bhetti —
Maybe Roissy actually would Bhetti, not sure (read literally I guess he would), but I sure wouldn’t. The vast majority of immigration restrictionists wouldn’t. We want the bright and especially as well proven and high skilled from all over, and all backgrounds.
You’ll have no trouble.
Welcome to the US of A baby!!
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Yea doug I am thinking it has something to do with the insurance money. I mean really kind of pathetic if you can’t make a ship defensible against what I was looking at of the pics of these somali boats. Little tiny boats coming up on superfreighters and able to take them over. I guess kind of what us will look like if they take away guns eh.
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“Not a bad suit amidst 90% of suits.”
75%, probably more like. I was feeling drunk and boastful.
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Interesting post.
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roissy is personally keeping me out otherwise, why roissy, why?)
Because you’d eventually marry an Arab Muslim man and have a bunch of Muslim children with him?
That’s all good, except that it isn’t reciprocated by the country of your origin (Egypt?).
Now, if I could take 20 of my Slavic cousins, move to Egypt with our families, enjoy the full protection of the Egyptian government’s might, and start setting up a bunch of Christian ethnocentric schools and communities, and start bringing more of my Slavic collagues to that country, I’d say it’s a fair reciprocal trade.
Alas, as is today Westerners have to endure others reshaping their homelands without the reciprocal ability to colonize and reshape other lands in our own image.
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Though I’d personally be OK with young Arab women coming to the West if they came alone, which would mean they’d marry Western men.
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Yeah, point, I don’t think my country of origin does reciprocal immigration nor that anyone would really want to move there if they could.
Plenty of Christians are running around in Arabic countries, as well as ‘well we don’t publicly run around screaming it to the world’ atheists/agnostics. The Lebanese seem purely composed of Christians, with half of the country being light eyed and pale skinned. Egypt’s very Christian-centric and liberal, as far as I can tell. There have been cases of Christian victimisation, but they’re certainly not the norm. You’ll get an idiot or two being rude about your cross (just like there’re asses over here about hijabs in the West) but that’s the experience I’ve had of it.
I think Westerners underestimate the huge Christian presence in the Arabic world. I personally went to a school run by nuns — who were able to offer either muslim or Christian religion lessons at the time (not sure if that’s changed recently) — in the Emirates for a little while.
I never said immigration policies in Arab countries were awfully restrictive. They’re awful, which is a huge reason for why I’m not in one of them.
I’m not going to give away which specific Arab country it is that I’m originally from!
Suffice it to say that I lived in the Emirates, which would have not nationalised me in a million years. Looking out for fellow muslims/Arabs? Lies.
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Not hard to become a resident of Kuwait but yea nationalized never happen he he he I love the 10 year kuwaiti license.
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I know an indian guy from emirates yea no nationalization there but again resident no problem with money.
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Because you’d eventually marry an Arab Muslim man and have a bunch of Muslim children with him?
Fun question, is it better to strip off the top IQ (say, 100 to 115 IQ minimum) from poorer “non-white nations” and allow them to live in the first world to prevent them from “wasting” away in the third world? I’d imagine there are some who’d argue that we have a duty to allow them into the country while others would argue no due to racial and cultural concerns and others based on the idea that they’re needed in their home nations*.
*Hence why my dad left Haiti in 1981, as opposed to 1978. My grandfather forbade him to leave the country under the idea that young men like my father with degrees were the only hope for the future, and that if they left, there would be nobody left to run the country. Oddly, in retrospect, my dad agrees with him…
Though I’d personally be OK with young Arab women coming to the West if they came alone, which would mean they’d marry Western men.
As a joke, I once suggested that we offer Muslim women a free ticket and instant green card if they “defect” into any of our Embassies or Consulates. Of course, PA, while you may suggest that the women may marry Western men, there’s nothing preventing them from raising their children as Muslims. It all depends on how attached one is to their culture and religion, and whether cultures are passed by mothers or fathers.
Now, if I could take 20 of my Slavic cousins, move to Egypt with our families…and start setting up a bunch of Christian ethnocentric schools and communities, and start bringing more of my Slavic collagues to that country, I’d say it’s a fair reciprocal trade.
I have a fun deal for you. You get to send some Slavs to Haiti, and we get to move a few Haitians into Eastern Europe. As a fair trade, we’ll only send university trained Haitians.
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PA: Muslim women are restricted to muslims, probably from similar country of origin as well. On the other hand, muslim men have more freedom and she can be a pious Christian (although the guys like to interpret it loosely e.g. my uncle marrying a Russian former model who only seems vaguely religious to me). So — in a Western environment — you can get more lone Arab females.
There’re increasing cases of American-born men converting to Islam. Saw a stereotype of a Texan in a video as a convert; the impression I got was that Christianity became a little too soft for him.
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I’m not usually very careful with my wording about this and can seem to conflate the two, but I’ll state it here: Arab =/= muslim.
Gunny: Yeah, I didn’t actually realise how much my family got things done through money there until recently. Which makes sense about why they’re obsessed with the stuff.
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Christianity became a little too soft for him.
Christianity has become too soft except as practiced by some fundamentalist sects here and there or Catholics in some Eastern European parishes. It’s become a sewing circle of old women and pederasts. That’s how they are losing men.
My impression is that Western men who convert to Islam are o m e g a males like in a report I saw on German males converting to Islam, or confused misfits like John Walker Lindh.
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Well the muslims as far as I know understand woman. They believe the man passes the religion. The reason muslim woman have to go with muslim men is because they are scared a woman marrying a man from another religion will have the kids raised in the religion of the man. This is sometimes under pain of death for the woman in more sctricter societies.
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lol yea bhetti I guess why i am “somewhat obsessed” with it to. As I have seen what lack of it leads to. Maybe the “man” is smart after all and gives people in the us plenty of incentive to get off there asses and work hard to be better.
Money=doors open
No money=doors closed
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“”””””””””””DA,
Fun question, is it better to strip off the top IQ (say, 100 to 115 IQ minimum) from poorer “non-white nations” and allow them to live in the first world to prevent them from “wasting” away in the third world? I’d imagine there are some who’d argue that we have a duty to allow them into the country while others would argue no due to racial and cultural concerns and others based on the idea that they’re needed in their home nations*.”””””””””””
Another fun question What if you strip off those same people from the us lol
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Not talking race but all the 100 and up people.
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while you may suggest that the women may marry Western men, there’s nothing preventing them from raising their children as Muslims
Nah, children take on their father’s culture.
By the way, speaking of Western converts to Islam, there is a song worth listening to by leftist singer Steve Earle, “John Walker’s blues”
It’s a song worth listening to. How many young Western men today are able to say that their hearts “are pure and strong”?
Young men, universally, hunger for this. That’s why the old-school US Marine Corps has no trouble finding enlistees, while the pussified Army does.
And Christinaity used to offer young men this, in some places it still does.
By the way, Earles’ song “Copperhead Road” is awesome. The G Manifesto would dig it, that’s for sure.
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If you have money you can live almost anywhere in the world.
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Money may not buy happiness but it sure can buy residency.
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Money may not buy happiness but it sure can buy residency.
Gunny, I do believe that’s the family motto!
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Shit pa when I was in army in germany yea live country bands and palying copperhead road He He He was an awesome time.
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Yea Bhetti wild right. Some countries do offer some nice benefits. Ya just make the circuit for free health care and education then make your way to the money saving side. Then move back to free health care and benefits as you get older. Flocking birds.
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Had a breakthrough today my first invention my dad didn’t shoot holes in. You want a hard life try having a dad who is a freakin genious,engineer, and inventor. You come up with an invention a day that he shoots holes in. Today told him about perfect war and protecting us troops. He didn’t shoot any holes. Jesus H Christ. That is what it took for him to be proud. I have become a man today. Yee fucking haaaaaa
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Bhetti — the idea that there are ANY significant numbers of Christians in Muslim nations is well a lie. It’s a bald-faced lie. And I suspect you know it well, being unwilling to deal with the ugly reality of Islam and Muslims.
There are almost NO Christians left in Muslim lands. Because Muslims KILL Christians wherever and whenever they can find them, and take their women as sex slaves. If they don’t behead them first as in the case of the three Catholic School girls beheaded in Indonesia (all the killers received suspended sentences which is typical for a Muslim country). This is typical Muslim behavior, by nearly all Muslims, whenever and wherever they can get away with it. They do it because they are Muslims.
Let’s be clear: Islam is a debased and degraded, gutter, Big Man religion. Filled with Big Men, slaves, and nothing else. It’s why Islam has accomplished nothing significant in it’s entire history, no art, literature, music, science, math, or technology. Even the suicide bomb was pioneered by the Tamil Tigers, and the AK-47 was invented by a Russian former tank crewman.
There is no tolerance for anything in Islam, not even fellow Muslims, because it’s winner take all (the women) and loser gets nothing (but slavery). Islam and Muslims are like scorpions in a bottle. The only thing the West can do with Muslims and Islam is hammer them hard, often and repeatedly without mercy or let up until they are so soundly they go away for a generation. Repeat as needed every twenty years. You’ll never get rid of scorpions (or Muslims) but you certainly wouldn’t want them in your country or house.
Your comments/excuses for Muslims and Islam are proof if any is needed for the hard-wired female preference for polygamy, brutal dominance, and ultra-violence of polygamist systems OR the typical female excuse-making for violence because contemplating reality is simply too depressing for those with a strong attraction to the violence in the first place. Christians around the world are regularly slaughtered by Muslims, in various Jihads, and punished with the lash or worse for simply praying in Saudi Arabia, the most Muslim (and cesspool) of all Muslim lands. The same goes for Nigeria, Egypt (the Copts are almost wiped out), Iraq, Iran, Turkey (slaughter of Greeks and Roman Catholics and Protestants), Armenia, Pakistan (regularly massacres Christians), Southern Philippines (same) and of course Lebanon and the Palestinian garbage heaps. Hezbollah and Hamas have been quite efficient in either slaughtering or forcibly converting Christians.
That’s typical for Muslims. Who are violent because of the Polygamy (which is why women generally defend them too).
Women would generally (though not always) prefer a violent system of death and domination where they get the genes of the few violent winners, and some of the resources, than the genes and all of the resources of Joe Average.
That Christians live anything but a dismal, persecuted, horrific life in any area with any significant amount of Muslims (including the West) is an utter, shameful and proven lie.
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The #1 problem of Christians in the Mideast is low birthrates, not Muslim slaughter. Well, that and emigration.
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And good to see Whiskey has filled the bigot quota on the site.
Jesus that was ugly.
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Whiskey–
I’ve lost respect for you. Jackass. That is just plain stupid.
Your deductive reasoning from a few core ideas with scant attention to detailed facts approaches being in la la land.
As for you business about Muslims always killing Christians it’s just idiocy. They in fact very much needed and used Christian Greeks especially in their early days, in building up their civilization. What they did do was impose severely discriminatory taxes on non Muslims in their mix, which had the triple effects of raising alot of revenue but not angering their traditionally nomadic a free wheeling conquest core; 2) reinforce or creating a social gulf between Muslims and Christians; and 3) greatly encouraging conversion, which did happen a whole lot.
It is true however that Islam was from almost it’s foundation, all over it’s core documents, and in it’s reverentially recalled early history both during Mohammed’s life and immediately post Mohammed, a CONQUEST religion. All claims to the contrary are leftist and /or apologist lies. No lies is not to strong a word. It’s accurate.
I repeat however Whiskey. You’re an ignorant jackass pretending to be knowledgeable, and I’ve lost respect.
Go somewhere else.
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I’d have to agree. One would think that Whiskey, who normally presents himself as educated, measured and considered, is a heck of a lot more careful in making such statements as he did above. And let me clear- I don’t make any excuses for the very real problems of the Islamic World, far from it.
As PCP above noted, the problem ain’t Muslim invaders or whatever, its the failure of WHITE GUYS TO MAKE WHITE WOMEN HAVE BABIES. Period.
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Obsidian —
This statement is almost equally idiotic Obsidian as I’ve said to before and offered detailed evidence as to why.
Black men in the US don’t MAKE black women have babies much either Obsidian. (Nor is their birth rate that much higher.)
Sex and babies are, or anyway can easily be these days, two very different things. Women having sex on average 4 times a year can easily have 4 or 6 or 8 kids. Women having sex three or four times a week can easily have no babies their whole life.
Feminism and what it has created in terms of women’s positions in the workplace, helped all over by affirmative action for women pushed through by feminists, is the primary reason. Interesting, the places with the lowest birth rates in the first world seem to be places when women have embraced at least significant parts of feminism but men have remained significantly or highly resistant – e.g. Italy and Spain.
There goes your lack of macho explanation for low birthrates Obsidian. It’s crackpot and ill informed. With bad motivations.
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failure of WHITE GUYS TO MAKE WHITE WOMEN HAVE BABIES. Period.
This has been responded to so many times that it’s starting to sound like a bad-faith taunt.
White guys make plenty of babies with their women. White birthrates are on the whole slightly below replacement, not ZERO. In places like Utah, Iceland, rural/religious white subcultures, eastern European diaspora… those birthrates are above replacement. Millions of white men making children with their women every day.
If globally white birthrates are currenlty below replacement, a generation from now they might swing back up. Don’t count the white man out.
Whites as a whole don’t do the breed-like-cockroaches thing. Whites breed at the level they feel is sustainable. Urbanization, social atomization, loss of habitat, and perceived disnicentives to family formation are factors that affect birthrates. And those factors can change on a dime, and with them the resulting change in birthrates.
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Thru most of the Middle Ages, Islam was more liberal minded that Christian Europe. In Islam, there are rules and mechanisms for Infidels by which they can co-exist in Islamic socities. Basically, pay the 1/40th tax and keep your head down.
But in Christian Europe Mohamedeans/Jews/Zorastarians etc. had no regularized legal standing or protected rights
and were dependent on the whims of the local thugocracy.
Europe did not accept limitations on the power of the Church and a more liberal economic order because of Christian theory or first preference but because it lacked the Unity to suppress successful examples of relative modernism (Protestantism, Capitalism, the printing press).
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If Pee Wee is a cartoon figure, Pupu would date him in a heart beat, if only for his wholesome name. This guy looks like a pervert. Pupu would not date him.
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whiskey: I’m not going to deal with the statistics. You can have a look at those, if you want. I’m going to talk to you about personally. Personally, I have been half-raised by a not particularly Catholic Filipino nanny who went to Church freely and experienced no discrimination that I know of. I went to English-speaking schools with people (mainly Lebanese, Syrians, Egyptians and English) who were Christians. There were plenty of Christians in my Arabic life. I went to schools run by Christian nuns.
Personally, I could get offended if a Christian openly wore their cross, but I never said or did anything about it. Personally, I would prefer a non-polygamous situation and my various (muslim, Arab) family relations would not accept a situation in which there were other wives. Personally, I could accept polygamy if the man in question was worth it. In practice, I can’t, because I care about my family and it is now a state of Arabic consciousness that monogamy is the way. It is now socially unacceptable within some Arabic countries: including Iraq, Syria, Lebanon and, I think, Egypt (due to the controversy a show inspired that they released which dealt with polygamy). The Gulf states — which happen to be the most foreignly peaceful and rich ones — still accept polygamy as a way of life.
That is how it stands with me, personally. Now, go back to attacking the discrimination that I haven’t seen or applied in practice. I haven’t seen it. That doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. However, I haven’t seen it. Yes, there is an ugly side to muslims and Saudi Arabia exemplifies it. I don’t happen to think or believe the darkest side of any person, religion, ideology or country defines them.
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I’m not a muslim scholar, and barely a muslim (according to various different sources, I’ve done or nearly done things that have ‘nullified my Islam’). I’m not an apologist or glorifier for Islam Through History. Doug probably knows more about its history than I do at the moment. I talk about my personal experiences and personal beliefs. One of them being that one of the major tenets of Islam is acquiring knowledge. The first words to descend upon the Prophet SAW were to that effect: http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/quran/096.qmt.html (Read!)
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News Flash
Pirates dead; American freed unharmed. A good start by all measures.
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Thru most of the Middle Ages, Islam was more liberal minded that Christian Europe. In Islam, there are rules and mechanisms for Infidels by which they can co-exist in Islamic socities. Basically, pay the 1/40th tax and keep your head down.
But in Christian Europe Mohamedeans/Jews/Zorastarians etc. had no regularized legal standing or protected rights
and were dependent on the whims of the local thugocracy.
Europe did not accept limitations on the power of the Church and a more liberal economic order because of Christian theory or first preference but because it lacked the Unity to suppress successful examples of relative modernism (Protestantism, Capitalism, the printing press).
This is mostly nonsense. The Middle Ages had multiple power centres: the church, the monarchy, the aristocracy, the guilds, the incorporated cities all had their own independant spheres of control.
As Rodney Stark and others have shown, capitalism had it’s origins in Medieval Catholicism. Catholicism post-Trent adopted the more unworldly strain of Catholicism, seriously retarding development in places like Spain and Italy, but before then it had a much more nuanced relationship with commerce.
Despite occasionally severe persecution, Jews on the whole survived quite well in Europe, while under the “liberal” Muslims experienced a huge decline population due to persecution and forced conversion.
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Rum: Good news!
Thursday: Anti-semitism is a big problem. Now, that, I have definitely seen.
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I’m […] barely a muslim (according to various different sources, I’ve done or nearly done things that have ‘nullified my Islam’).
Maybe there is hope in the world yet 🙂
Imagine if the half-billion or so Muslim Arabs, Turks, central Asians also “lost their religion…”
We’d be doubling to the number of Westerners presently in existance. Imagine: millions of hot new raven-haired Arab girls in circulation, in tight jeans and cute tops, throwing away the chains of their religion!
Yes, we can!
! نعم ، يمكننا
evet, yapabiliriz
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That Capt. Phillips is a real hero. He’s apparently the reason this ended as it did.
He attempted escape once before by jumping overboard the lifeboat, but was hauled back in by the Somali pirates. The Navy was asleep at the switch that first time. He just a little while did it again, in the darkness. This time the Navy opened fire, killing three pirates and wounding the 4th, who’s in custody. The captain is unscathed, and fine.
I smell a real alpha.
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That’s why the old-school US Marine Corps has no trouble finding enlistees, while the pussified Army does.
Anecdote: On the Parkway today, I saw several homemade and one Staples-spec banners welcoming home several military men, who appear to be mostly Marines. For all intents and purposes, the Marines seem “cooler” with the better uniforms and historical legacy which can give aspirations to young men while the Army comes across as what you do if you can’t go to college, but want something better than working at Wal-Mart.
And again, PA, I’m amazed that you called the army pussified…
Nah, children take on their father’s culture.
I’m probably an outlier, and despite both of my parents being Haitian, somehow, I’ve absorbed my mother’s “identity”, but I suspect that’s due to very weak contacts with my father’s side.
Interesting, the places with the lowest birth rates in the first world seem to be places when women have embraced at least significant parts of feminism but men have remained significantly or highly resistant – e.g. Italy and Spain.
That’s the weird irony of blaming Feminism. You have countries like Japan where career women are non-existent compared to the States and divorces are generally favourable to men with little child support or alimony, and their birth rates are crap, and there’s Germany where you’re expected to become a stay at home mother and birth rates are at historic lows.
In other words, it may not be general Anglo-Saxon/Scandinavian feminism at play, but the end game of massive industrialization which has turned children from benefits to burdens and de facto expensive pets.
Black men in the US don’t MAKE black women have babies much either Obsidian.
IIRC, the black birth rate is barely at replacement, and middle class blacks are levels below their white counterparts. The cases of one mother and several children with different fathers are outliers.
This has been responded to so many times that it’s starting to sound like a bad-faith taunt.
The irony is that Obsidian is near 40 with no children of his own while you’re on your way to the first member of your Polish legion…
If globally white birthrates are currenlty below replacement, a generation from now they might swing back up.
IIRC, allegedly a perfect example of this in a local focus is France where in the post-revolutionary and Third Republic era, birthrates were crap which ended up causing France’s population to sink below Germany and make its defence harder, and WWI ended up becoming a catastrophe on the male French population and amplified the effects of a smaller army when the Germans invaded in 1940. In the post-World War II era, in contrast, France was the only European country to experience something resembling a baby boom and even today, it’s birthrates are higher than it’s European neighbours.
Urbanization, social atomization, loss of habitat, and perceived disnicentives to family formation are factors that affect birthrates.
Urbanization to a certain extent primarily because it’s easier in terms of logistics to raise children in a suburban setting when you can easily cart them around in a minivan or SUV, especially if you have more than two. Plus, suburban homes tend to be larger and have three to five bedrooms and multiple bathrooms. OTOH, there are plenty of five bedroom houses in various new housing developments, but they’re usually not housing four or five children either.
Social atomization is a clunky excuse along with so-called loss of habitat. There are Orthodox Jews in well-maintained suburban homes right next to one of the poorest areas of New York City, and yet somehow, the Orthodox feel safe, and they have children galore without worrying about their black neighbours attacking them.
You could argue that affordable family formation is at play, but I’d argue that people’s standards have changed for what constitutes the middle class, and I suspect it played into the current economic crisis. In other words, when children find that their parents’ home is no longer suitable (read: large and pretty enough) for raising a family, the only people left to sell it to are those pesky immigrants and black people. Besides, I’m amazed that we’re so worried about black people moving when they’re only 12.5% of the population at most. Even here on LI, you black people are basically limited to a few areas with nearly every community on the island being mostly white at 90% levels.
I suspect that as housing prices fall and the economy normalizes, I suspect that we will see some uptick in the birth rate for non-SWPL whites.
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Too cool Doug. Thanks for update rum. This may actually get the ships to be outfitted properly. Your already talking about a 100 million dollar vessel. How much more money would it take to put some aagis systems on them.
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David’s putting up some thoughtful writing. Are you really a self-described nerdy 20-something railfanner porn addict and not, I dunno, Tom Wolfe trolling the internet?
Anyway, happy Easter dude.
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“””””DA And again, PA, I’m amazed that you called the army pussified…”””””
To an extent it is because when you hear your dads stories and then go. You become a little disapointed when your woken up for blowjobs and you got woman cuddling up with you crying when you are gassed in the field. Even though it was just a drill. PS (not crying from the gas it hadn’t reached us yet they where crying from fear) lol It was nice to consol the wenches but it does ruin the illusion of woman = men.
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As I said on another thread, the solution to this as to all pirate problems is to wipe out their ships in their nests. All of their ships. All Somali ships that we think are pirate ships even if we aren’t entirely sure. It’s war, of a limited kind. Let’s get real. Would that be an act of war against Somali? Sure. So what?
Oh and lets not buy this “if you break it you own it” Colin Powell horseshiit. No, we leave it this time for once.
Oh yeah, the UN. The UN has authorized taking military action against pirates while in the act of piracy, but not otherwise and now while ashore or in territorial waters. Oh thanks. Not good enough. Since when has the UN been necessary to go after piracy? The right to go after pirates is a foundational bit of international law, predating the UN by centuries.
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Yea we need to get off equal and love as people happy easter.
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PA David’s putting up some thoughtful writing. Are you really a self-described nerdy 20-something railfanner porn addict and not, I dunno, Tom Wolfe trolling the internet?
Yea I love DA’s writing style. I just wish we would write/post about something other than his “oreoism” and “beatahood”.
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PA & Doug,
Just read both your responses, as well as Dave Alex’s. Time to set some records straight.
I for one and sick and tired, of being sick and tired, of reading and listening to and watching mainly White guys bitch and moan about so-called Muslim invasions (in THIS country), Mexican immigration, multiculturalism and the like, all under the rubric of “we’re losing our indentity”, ie, our moorings to our Anglo White roots. OK, fine-if you’re really interested in such things, then it seems to me that the first place you look to is to oneself. If White folks, especially those who will matter, don’t even see it important enough to reproduce in meaningful numbers to keep those all important traditions and ideas that made America what it is alive, then all the other stuff that comes in to fill the void is a given. And there shouldn’t be any bellyachin’ over it.
There is nothing bad faith in my comments, indeed they strike right to the heart of the matter-PA’s right to note the Mormons of Utah and the varied Evangelicals of the Bible Belt, but last time I heard I don’t recally ANYONE HERE talking about pulling up stakes from the slut-infested coastal city environs, relocating to the aforementioned locales, meeting a “god girl” and becoming a full fledged grownup. Can’t have it both ways fellas. Shit or get off the pot.
Here I have to agree with Dave’s point, all the rap abot affordable family formation, etc, is to my mind an elaborate ruse for the simple fact that significant numbers of White Men and Women simply don’t see having kids as being important in their lives, and to let their actions tell it, are also completely cool to let others do the heavy lifting (and pushing) in that regard. You can harangue all you want about Black birthrates, they are wholly irrelevant to the discussion at hand-the FACT of the matter IS that White birthrates are falling. And this is especially true among the married.
So, yea, I’m gonna keep pointing out the bleedingly obvious, one because its true and two because I can: if those among you are really serious about upholding classical American values and the whole of Western Civ along with it, all you need do is checkout Salt Lake City and attend some church services, there are plenty of cornfed gals who will accomodate you. Besides, I heard that area of the country is very nice this time of year.
Otherwise, give the sky s falling rap a rest, huh?
😉
O
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Are you really a self-described nerdy 20-something railfanner porn addict and not, I dunno, Tom Wolfe trolling the internet?
Yes, I am. I just find these topics interesting since they all tie into my interests (trains and roads) and until I became a de facto college drop out, it’s what I learnt at school without going crazy when I took engineering. Besides, I’m just the general contrarian that likes to look at all points.
Happy Easter to all. 🙂
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Despite occasionally severe persecution, Jews on the whole survived quite well in Europe, while under the “liberal” Muslims experienced a huge decline population due to persecution and forced conversion.
I’ve never heard this argument before (well, except for one neocon loon), and have never seen any documentary evidence for it. My impression was that up until the 20th century Jewish communities in Muslim lands fared far better than Jewish communities in Christian ones. Do you have any cites?
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Ha. Obsidian tells it like it is.
Look, as I see it the human species is hopefully in a long-term transition to lower birth rates that could eventually lead to lower population overall, which would be good for quality of life. What’s driving the transition is higher wealth and technological changes lowering the economic need for kids, combined with lower infant mortality, longer lifespans, and cheap effective contraception. Yes, feminism does play some a role too (though hardly all of it). If women have the choice over fertility they’ll have somewhat fewer kids than if they don’t — mainly because they bear the main burden of childrearing.
The lower birthrate transition is good, but it causes some racial/ethnic tensions because different groups are undergoing the transition at different rates and speeds. The parts of the world that are less economically advanced and where the modern middle class has not really established itself are still having kids at pre-modern rates. Religion plays some role here too, but not as much as general economic/social progress.
If it continues, this population transition will probably have some evolutionary effects over the long run, as genes that favor childbearing will spread faster and a lot of people who truly don’t like kids will select out out of the gene pool. But a lot of the influences on childbearing are massively cultural/social. We have not evolved to have childbearing be less of a conscious choice an more as the byproduct of some very pleasurable other activities.
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whoops, last sentence shouldn’t have the “not” in it.
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Awww its cute even Obsidian is praying for white people to make it. He doesn’t want a world without em in the majority. He He He
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Yes, I am. I just find these topics interesting since they all tie into my interests (trains and roads) and until I became a de facto college drop out, it’s what I learnt at school without going crazy when I took engineering.
College dropouts are cool.
I dropped out after a couple semesters at a communty college, worked odd jobs and did something similar to railfanning: drove to pudunk places in states such as Florida, Tennessee or Kentucky, whatever looked cool on the atlas to visit. Bummed around there for a few days, sleeping at cheap motels. It wasn’t hard to find one for $12.99 to 19.95 per night back then as late as 1993.
This wasn’t SWPL-time-off-on-daddy’s dime thing. My parents had no “dime” to spare and I really did have a hard time after high school for various reasons, and eventually in my early 20s went into the Army. Did finish college afterwards though.
One thing, up to about 25-27 years old you can drive all day and night without sleeping. After 30 it is almost impossible.
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Gunny,
? White folk have never been in the majority in the World, so its irrelevant what I do and don’t want in that regard.
O
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Gunner is right about some aspects of the Army being pussified when compared to the Marine Corps. The ones that are most pussified: ones that have coed units. Women’s presence makes it hard to take the “hooah!” stuff seriously. Two funny stories:
1) The first one is pre-Clinton-era political correctness: In Basic Training (late 1980s, I went Army Reserves during High School and joined active duty Army a few years later), the training battalions were separated by sex, so you I was nearly 3 months with nothing but dudes. The fat elderly dining facility matrons were looking yummy by week six.
So one day our platoon is marching past a female trainees’ formation, with every guy’s eyes darting in their direction while marching.
And our black drill sergeant resoundingly sounds off in full hearing range of the females, without interrupting his marching cadence: “You don’t want that pussy boys, it’s eight weeks old!”
2) A few years later, temporarily assigned to a co-ed support battalion, we go on the required annual 12-mile full-gear road march. As expected, the females moan, bitch, whine, complain.
“Sergeant, can we take a break for a few minutes? Sergeant, my ankles hurt! Sergeant, bitch moan, whine….”
And the whining becomes infectious. Encouraged by the females, some of the weaker guys start moaning and complaining too.
Until some dude, a junior enlisted (E4), has heard enough. A corn-bred redneck, the kind I hope they still make down in Alabama, shouts out at the top of his lungs in mockery of the complainers, in front of all the troops, the NCOs, the Lieutenants and the Company Commander:
“Aaaaaaawwwww, my PUSSY HURTS!”
Everyone shuts up and the whining stops for the rest of the roadmarch.
Damn, I kinda miss the Army!
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The problem is we can’t beat our dads who couldn’t beat their granddads they were superhuman (try having and raising 18 kids and having them all go to college) (try being able to do any job at a superior level). There ain’t no aa in generational success. You try to compete with your ancesters and fall short like a mutherfucker. These guys were made of steel and interlaced with titanium. Its like yea ok you became an engineer but can you also fix a car and do major carpentry, plumbing, and electric and shoot and live in the wilderness and make your own shit for business and do marketing and be able to make presentations to boards of directors and be the best salesman and be able to pick a 100 pound dumbell up and curl it over your head, and be able to put together a multi million dollar business, and be able to raise some kids and be able to put together an auction making 50k in two days, and be able to come back from nothing and create multiple business from nothing and still raise a family. I mean it is sick to be in competition with this. Then you see that same guy fucked up by divorce and you realize divorce is a straight up force of evil. Then you see the guy raise his last kid on his own. Then the guy shows unconditional love and takes care of the bitch of an ex wife when she goes crazy. How the fuck can you compete with this shit? Much easier to change the rules of what it means to be a man. Because to try to be an oldschool man is dam near imposible.
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Because to try to be an oldschool man is dam near imposible.
Gotta marry wisely. Outsource if necessary.
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Plus he was monogomous plus at pa he could drive straight to a destination whatever his age was dude was sick lol
That is why it is funny to hear the eo shit. Woman wanting to be men equal pay bla bla. Lol men cannot be men anymore. Shit is too hard.
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lol pa I am trying my best though. I can now drive to infinity had problems at first with falling asleep at the wheel when I was younger.
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I am making up new rule on monogamy part man that shit is nuts.
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Bhetti
Christians are widely persecuted and oppressed in Egypt.
It used to be a lot bigger. Now it’s dwindling (for example, Christians have been fleeing Iraq en masse).
And yet the Islamic world is a non-entity in terms of science and learning.
Obsidian
Japan has dangerously low birth rates, yet they are not being assaulted by uncontrolled immigration, Islamization and multiculturalism. Furthermore, claiming that people somehow don’t have the right to complain about the loss of their culture because they have low birth rates is completely arbitrary.
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I think my tribute to tokyo — may he RIP — is wonderful. It’s patently obvious that everybody with a lick of sense has fleed Iraq, not just the adorable Christians, but it’s so like him to use that as a point of disagreement. I’m sure he would have noticed how all those doctors with the last name of Patel are probably not muslims (!). It’s so like him to mention Japan too somehow.
Bless his heart, I miss him so.
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Obsidian
This is what BOTH myself and PA objected to your repeating Ad nauseam despite it’s absurdity as we’ve both repeatedly pointed out:
You failed completely as per usual to address what we criticized you about. Instead you launch into some potpouri of concerns of others such as the innundation of illegal Mexican and other Central American immigration none of which you’ve remotely proved is without foundation or absurd.
As well you quote above is obvious a direct racial taunt implying some sexual inability leading to low birth rates which in addition to be offensive and racist, is also not remotely science based and has in fact been repeatedly shown to you to be false.
You’re a regular thread hijacker, and the reflexive no matter what the situation support of your dependable black supporters when around doesn’t remotely make that not true.
You also often contribute good stuff. Lay off the endless race baiting Obsidian.
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Yea obsid I think people like tood where actually talking about bringing muslims into the us to combat multiculturalism. But I think from jaakal it is europe having some sort of problems with absorbing muslim population.
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Gunny-
You must be aware that Europe is having very large problems with that (where the concentrations are high particularly) — but that it’s also taboo to talk about in most western Euro countries publicly, and in fact illegal to do so in any but very limited ways in many.
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Thursday
I occasionally write nonsense but sometimes I just cut corners.
My basic point was that Europe was sufficiently diverse & with multiple power centers such that anti-modern forces could not successfully suppress capitalism, etc. However, Christian (as opposed to Islamic) theological ideas were not especially welcoming of disruptive change – at least as those ideas were developed in say the 11-12th century. Remember the various “estates” of Medieval society? They not meant to ever change.
I am no fan of Islam. It would be wrong, however to ignore the reasons it has had some appeal at various times to folks with clear heads and relatively good intentions, especially when set against the closed, semi-barbaric, feudal system of Europe in the early Middle Ages.
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http://www.menshealth.com/mhlists/relationship_and_dating_tips/index.php
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Due to popular demand, an encore of one of the coolest little-known rock songs of all time:
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Hey, I met Steve Earl before he was famous. He drank a bit if I remember right…
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Yea rum when set against politically correct what’s not to like. When the people leave to work afar, they save there money in a little jar. They see the foreign lands the best that they got and realize its not a lot. Compared to family in a poor locale where the rich and poor can still hang around. Because there is no hate of the rich man cause he came from the same roots as all the other men. And the world was changing and I saw this place and realized it was the intended life of the human race. You look at the poor and they can build a home with there own two hands something they can own. No need to beg for a permit to do, freedom ain’t something thats shared by a few. The crazy are allowed to lay on the ground and be a naked human how can this be sound. This is freedom in a foreign land the ability to live or die as a man.
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Pa object is to put that to country he he he
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Here is a roadgeeking song David might like. “Ol’ 55.”
Originally recorded by Tom Waits, later covered by the Eagles. I’m partial to the Sarah Mclachlan verision. Supposedly, she and her band were knocking back glasses of wine during the recording.
Maybe that’s what accounts for the otherworldly haze in the music. Sort of like being on the road in a faraway state at 4 in the morning, having been driving all night and now seeing the sun starting to come up.
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Yea pa thanks for posting copperhead road.
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Welcome dude — Copperhead Road is awesome, isn’t it? Part Rock, part Country, part “Deer Hunter,” part eastern Tennessee hillbilly family reunion stories.
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There’re lots of Arab girls even less religious than I ever was. London’s a popular place for the Arabs to go and you might be surprised what they get up to when they get here. There was a little comic strip spoofing this circulating via e-mail that I was trying to find for you, where a completely covered woman was looking at a very revealing dress and saying ‘I wouldn’t wear that anywhere but London’. There were a group of Kuwaiti girls recently who’s one thought when getting here was to visit the sex museum.
Still, the cultural pressures to marry an Arab man who’s not OBVIOUSLY being COMPLETELY anti-Islamic while remaining virginal meanwhile is tremendous. Even if the internal religious pressure isn’t there, the desire to please one’s family will always be.
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Bhetti
I knew most of this in general, but you’re being so fun!
As well over the last week or so you’ve been so utterly tack sharp and always coherent. It’s like you were seriously sleep deprived before, but now not. Which does seem plausible.
BTW, did you see my answer to your prenups in Britain Q/challenge?
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Not ALWAYS bhetti the media will cure that.
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For you though yea prob always 🙂
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Doug: Oh, right, yes. I’ve doublechecked with a bona fide lawyer & checked out your link instead of a law student and what you said about prenups is 100% true. Which gave me a shock, let me tell you. The US is looking more attractive…
I’m on Easter holidays now and trying to keep myself occupied with other things. I currently can’t face a textbook. I don’t see any palpable difference in my general incoherence! What did you find fun about that tidbit!? I feel like I’ve betrayed something, though I’m not sure what.
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How can the media cure family loyalty? They can be crazy dysfunctional meanies, who I know would dump me in the river as a cold corpse — but not before adminstering a world of pain — if they found out certain things. I still love them.
Some theories say it’s because of this treatment. Irrelevant! Regardless of the cause, the loyalty is a fact.
Perhaps you mean Arabs gradually absorbing Western ideals that the terrorists are so frightened by? You guys ever hear Arabic music? There’s a joke that says you can’t find one song without the occurence of ‘habibi’ (m) or ‘habibti'(f) which means darling/lover. Not a state of consciousness that is directed at religion, to be honest…
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See, doug? That doesn’t look very coherent to me. However: I assume that if people can decipher what gunny is saying, then they can decipher what I’m saying.
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Quite negging me Bhetti lol
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And apparently you can translate me pretty well. Could you please translate all my posts from now on. He He He
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Bhetti–
Now that really did have me belly laughing!!!
Kiss.
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Think of this though bhetti they adopted no smoking in Kuwait if they can make the arabs do that they can make them do anything. Scary right. When I first got there smokers paradise. Then before I left the second time. No smoking in mall. they went to the gay side in a short period of time this is the power of media. This is your downfall.
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Kuwait […] When I first got there smokers paradise.
I used to love flying into Europe 1997-2002. Get off the plane in Frankfurt for a layover, usually groggy at 6 AM local time / 1AM my body’s time.
And immediately head for the coffeebar where cute German girls were serving those strong little expresso coffees into which I’d pour the long & skinny sugar packets. And have a sweet delicious smoke. Anywhere I wanted to at the airport.
Taking away a man’s right to smoke is the first step toward removing all other freedoms. Damnit, and I haven’t smoked in 5 years.
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I smoked in the hospital in indo. I love that country.
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My Woman came out of operation just fine just has a little line on the tummy where they went in and shes still alive so medical is obviously ok. Vag was a little lopsided which concerned her. So she went to her local hospital between my R&R’s and got it evened out for like 300 dollars. Looks perfect again. 🙂
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*blushes* Damnit, doug, send your kisses to those who need them** and won’t be stoned to death for receiving them.
gunny: I can’t help it, gunny. I can’t.
Yay for successful operation!
**Like THE TROOPS. They’ve been apparently ‘pussified’ sufficiently to want that support and that’s where you Americans seem to send everything.
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Brining up my woman the anti neg mua mua hahahahahah
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G
So alpha that he was … unable to see the tray of cookies 1 metre to his right.
I thought “alpha” included the ability to take in one’s surroundings effortlessly?
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G: Dictating the conversation with questions. Kino escalation. And finally gets what he wants.
So alpha that he was … unable to see the tray of cookies 1 metre to his right.
I thought “alpha” included the ability to take in one’s surroundings effortlessly?
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My wishes were obeyed on the other thread.
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Bhetti
Christians have been fleeing because of religious persecution by Muslims, not just because the country is unstable.
What does this have to do with anything I said? Where have I discussed doctors named Patel?
I mentioned it because it was relevant.
Gunslingergregi
You are clearly not a very intelligent person.
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Doug & Contraian,
Oh, I gotta get in on this.
First off Doug, as T aka Ricky Raw has told you several times before, my so-called hijacking commentary is miniscule-MINSCULE-compared to constant harangues of so-called “race realists here, who chomp at the bit to hurl in some racially-chargd invective where none was necessary. I defy you or anyone else here who doubts me, to actually go through this forum’s archives over the past year and see for themself. I’m confident that my position will be upheld.
Going to the larger point, what I’m sick and tird of is listening to obstensibly grownassed Men complaining and whining about stuff that has little direct impact on their lives, in a woefully vain attempt to remove any fault for their own shortcomings. The very same Men who wannat rundown skanks and sluts are the ones who won’t lift a finger to make their society any better, if anything they spend what seems like their every waking hour trying to swoop more skanks. That’s cool, but recognize that when you do that you loose *any* moral or even commonsensical authority when it comes to “saving the race”. If you were half as serious, you’d be doing the same thing the Mormons are doing, who don’t need or want a soapbox to bitch and moan on.
And yup, Japan doesn’t have immigration problems and the like, they’re simpl dying a slow death from within. All the Japanese pride in the world don’t seem to be enough to convice Japanese to reproduce themselves-and worse, they’ve aped the suicidal tendencies of Anglos and introduced policies that will ensure the already slow and steady slide towards oblivion. The once world reknown work ethic of the Japanese Male is quickly becoming a thing of the past, thanks to heavy divorce penalties on the part of Men who gave their lives, literaly, to their jobs in the name of being good providers, only to see half or more of their pensions being seized in divorce settlements, and reality tv shows featuring such “liberated Women” referring to their newly minted ex’s as “wet leaves”. This is the thanks that they get-and its not lost on younger Japanese males. They see this and realize it just ain’t worth it.
So yea, in the Japanese case, they’ve got no scapegoats to blame. Nothing but themselves. Let’s see how long it’ll take for them to finally see the light.
And lastly, let’s get something straight: the vast majority of the posters here-who are overwhelmingly White-have little if any actual, real live experience with the (racial) subjects they speak oh so authoritatively on and about. One ofmy purposes here, is to provide a real and subtantive counterbalance to the Bullshit so many here spout from the hole in their heads most would assume is a mouth. And I will continue to do this, mainly because, I can. I know infinitely more about White America, its history, its mores, its ticks and idiosyncracies, then the vast majority of “experts” here could ever tell me or any other Black person, about us.
So, instead of merely talkng *about* somebody, now you’ll actually have to talk *to* somebody. Learn about your history, and your fellow Americans, people. We’re not leaving.
Btw, Doug, I actually like you. And that should go w/o saying for PA.
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Y’all know what to do…
Holla back
The Obsidian
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Obsidian–
Your tread hijacking isn’t miniscule compared to ANYTHING Obsicidan, and you do it all by yourself ALL the time. Then do you get whites fighting with you, yes.
I don’t like race baiting from either sided Obsidian. But you claim of miniscule is absolutely ridiculous. Ain’t gonna fly. Even if you do get a brothers posse to back you up. Which isn’t exactly a hard thing to do, whatever the facts are.
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Then prove me wrong, Doug; saying it aint so simply aint enough. Should be pretty easy to do. Go back thru the archives and tallyup the numbers. And holla back the results.
For some reason, you refuse to see the fact that in almost every case, I’m responding to ideas and thoughts spewed out by others in this forum usually of a gratuitous nature, and for the life of me I cannot recall ever seeing you registering your outrage by the oftentimes downright ridiculous racially charged invective flung accross this forum. While your comparing and contrasting the archives, you’ll kindly direct me to those posts where you have spoken out like you say you have? Or have you saved all your righteous indignation for little ole me?
I’ll be wating for your tally results. Should be good!
O
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Obsidian—
Assigning me homework? Get real.
What white person injected race into the most recent threat Obsidian, the Best Photo of 2009 thread?
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Uh uh, Doug; remember-no changing of subjects. Not very sporting.
YOU were the one to charge me with “hijacking” threads by making racially charged remarks; my response was to cite T aka Ricky Raw, who *recently* told you that your assertions were FALSE.
YOU then say that you’ve taken exception to racially charged comments period; I defy you to atucally back that up, by presenting evidence of your claim, unless you want to come clean and freely admit that you only take exception when a certain person apparently does it.
Now-show and prove time, Doug. You’re a highly educated Man, surely you recognize the importance of evidentary record, yes?
*Obsidian takes a big gulp of air*
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O
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Obsidian —
Pointing out a thread that you are RIGHT NOW hijacking over your deep interest in showing racial infirmities in whites is hardly changing the subject Obsidian. As you know.
You may accept T Ricky Raw as the authority but I don’t. Though I do think he has lots of interesting things to say. Anyway he didn’t say you don’t race bait or hijack threads. He said that white guys were throwing out race incendiary remarks from way back and game some names I didn’t recognize.
There’s no doubt that there are white nationalists around who throw out remarks. Most of these are people that most others don’t engage in back and forth. Best ignored.
But yes Obsidian, I’ve asked both sides to cool it when wars break out. Repeatedly I have.
Your demand that I document things for you is beyond arrogant however.
Just white person in recent blog history do you think initiates blog hijacking over racial issues, which MANY have bemoaned, in the same consistent manner that you do Obsidian? Who?
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Again Doug nice try, but no cigar.
I am responding to what I perceive, rightly I think, as racial scapegoating, in the name of other things, like immigration, etc. A lot of it is simply racially charged speak by any other name, and this isn’t to say that I don’t think the issue itself isn’t significant. It is. But again, I maintain that MOST White folk, of any political persuasion, make it their business to get as far away from people who don’t look like them anyway. So its a strawman, rhetorically and otherwise.
Sure, you don’t have to accept anything T or I or anyone else says on the issue. But when you make accusations about me, I’ll simply ask that you prove it. Nothing too out of the way to ask, is it?
Now, let’s try this again: nine times out of ten, I respond to ridiculous crap being spouted about people who look like me, and I’ve had enough of it. I’ve decided to do something about it by presenting another side. And if people don’t like it, tough, that’s Life. One of the problems is that there aren’t enough people here who are grown up anyway.
So, again, Doug-what I and T said can be easily backed up. You don’t wanna check into it, fine. But just because you say it aint so don’t make it aint so.
Anyway, how you doin man?
O
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Hey you did the famous don’t change the subject from what you want line when someone points out your flaw. Bravo
It is kind of nice sometimes to have a man who is a black supremest on the site lends a lot of flavor. White people don’t read much black history normally or look up shit about black people they don’t give a shit because what would we learn to help our lives. It is great that you care so much about white people that you try to learn the history of “your percieved” adversary so that you can talk about from books what we know from experience. We had white parents to look up to. Its too bad you did without that. A lot of us did grow up close to blacks it was planned that way. If we did grow up near them we more than likely don’t want to stay in the area. Blacks are the catalyst for us to work harder than maybe we normally would have. The “man” is smart as fuck.
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Update on my black friend he is doing the show for real got 4 acts lined out and looking to make 80 g’s a piece on deal. He said he used the pick your nuts up and carry in the wheelbarrow lol and they looked at him. But yea he is just doing the shit instead of just dreaming. Question for obsid what black male have you advised on how to achieve something? What black male have you gave a push to into fullfilling there dream? What black person did you believe in and back with your money that you saved so they could do a project that would make mad loot or potentially lose the loot invested so they could have a chance to build themselves up?
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Gunny,
Easy star, we can start the smell the gear oil. Don’t think so hard next time.
Oh, and the proper spelling is “supremacist”. OK? 🙂
Which, I’m not. Have said so many times. So as per usual, you’re barking up the tree, Gunny.
What I do with my offlist time is NONE OF YOUR GODDAMN BUSINESS. OK, Gunny? How’s that?
Now, actually address the points I’ve raised, or kindly go back to what you were doing, hmm? 🙂
Thanks.
O
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YA:
The #1 problem of Christians in the Mideast is low birthrates, not Muslim slaughter. Well, that and emigration.
three guesses as to why christians are emigrating from muslim lands.
ob:
OK, fine-if you’re really interested in such things, then it seems to me that the first place you look to is to oneself. If White folks, especially those who will matter, don’t even see it important enough to reproduce in meaningful numbers to keep those all important traditions and ideas that made America what it is alive, then all the other stuff that comes in to fill the void is a given.
we’ve already been through this. there is a much easier way to preserve american greatness and uniqueness (i.e. diversity) than through mutually assured procreation: build a fence.
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Roissy,
Yes, we’ve already been through this. And yes, we agree on building a wall, fence, whatever anyone wants to call it.
But that STILL doesn’t address what I’m talking about. There’s really no easy way of getting around this Roissy: if you (not you personally, the more general you) is really serious about perserving what makes America great, that means making sure there’ll be people like yourself to make that happen. And that means, grabbing up Mary Sue out on the plains, having more than 2 kids, and get about the tough business of building up the next generation.
Preserving nations and building legacies can’t always be done on the cheap, Roissy. You of all people, know that.
O
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Touched a nerve eh obsid
I am white and hate what I have seen blacks as groups do but I still help them. You are black but nothing to offer your kind. Instead you spend your life studying up to be able to debate white people about blacks to make white people come to a conclusion that blacks should be removed from the planet. You do realize all your debates come to basically it is not worth the hassle of keeping blacks alive. You are like the reverse hitler. Life is so full of irony it is unbelievable.
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Gunny,
You been hittin the sauce again, haven’t ya? 🙂
Go slow on that stuff man, it’ll kill your nature.
O
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Another guy I mentored. Came over at 21 never had a dad. Talking about buying a 250k house 3 years ago. He got over a 100k settlement for something and was able to spend it all. I told him truth about life. Not what black leaders spit but truth. I showed him my excel sheet of how a 100k can be saved. I explained that if you go on vacation every 4 months. The likelyhood of saving money is way reduced. He did a year straight through and joined the 100 club later. This guy recently had to go home over family problems. Now if he wouldn’t have saved and just bought the house and crap first what would he have now but bills he couldn’t pay.
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I guess alchohal is always on your mind obsid. I don’t drink don’t need it to have fun, grow balls, or run from the pain. Do you?
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Wow Gunny, that’s great. The White Man’s Burden has just been eased a bit. Have another drink in honor of yourself, you deserve it.
O
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Another guy I mentored taught him computers and how to do his job. Also taught him about money and how the game works. He has brought his wife over here and is still in process of saving loot. Most peoples goals in the beginning are just to pay off debt and be even. I am like you were even at 18 when you had no bills then look what happened. I show people how they can be free. Fuck even. It is ok for you to get ahead of the game. You can be financially independant it just takes saving loot and a little investment.
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Another guy rocket scientist brilliant but had trouble in area of saving loot. This dude was the one who told me the human truth behind the stock market. I came up with the doubling numbers where you take 365k and can beat the market as long as the stock didn’t go under. He said yea but human condition will be greed. You would look at all that capital sitting there and want to use it. He was right that does apply to most people.
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Obsid I am just saying get off your ass and do something with yourself maybe you can be a father figure or someone to compete with for a black male without a father figure there are a shitload of them.
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Oh yea guy two posts up was white.
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ob:
Yes, we’ve already been through this. And yes, we agree on building a wall, fence, whatever anyone wants to call it.
i’m partial to Impenetrable Fortress Raining Down Metallic Death On The Enemy Intruder.
But that STILL doesn’t address what I’m talking about. There’s really no easy way of getting around this Roissy: if you (not you personally, the more general you) is really serious about perserving what makes America great, that means making sure there’ll be people like yourself to make that happen. And that means, grabbing up Mary Sue out on the plains, having more than 2 kids, and get about the tough business of building up the next generation.
a low birthrate is fine as long as the founding stock of a nation isn’t being swamped by enemies by another name. the US was doing perfectly well, in fact some would argue even better, back in the mid-20th century when the population was one third to one half the size it is now, and a hell of a lot less “diverse”. a nation can even sustain a population decline as long as there isn’t a burdensome welfare state requiring new generations to prop up. see: social security. biggest boondoggle ponzi scheme ever.
so my point stands. mutually assured procreation is a horribly inefficient and grotesquely animalistic way to go about fixing the country’s ills when more convenient, cheaper and commonsensical alternatives are available.
Preserving nations and building legacies can’t always be done on the cheap, Roissy.
it’d be a lot cheaper to station our tank brigades along the rio grande than in iraq.
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Roissy,
While I see where you’re coming from, and agree with it at least in part, you’re forgetting something huge:
For all the handwringing about Mexicans in particular, and “NAMs” in general, the real “enemy” of White folk that you like, are the SWPL crowd-a far larger, and much more influential group than Black and Brown folk combined. THEY are the ons who actively work to dismantle the very foundations of this country that you and others are so obstensibly concerned about, Roissy. And by all accounts-your own reportage in this venue including, they’re not only winning, at this point it looks to be a route.
Now-
Let’s say for the sake of argument, that the Berlin Wall is resurracted along the US’ sourthen border; illegal immigration and drug trafficking are reduced say, 90%. And, let’s say that that all dreaded 1965 Immigration Act that is the culprit of all those Black folk suddenly dried up-hey, that sort of thing has happened in the USA before-you STILL have to dea with the SWPL folks, Roissy. You still have to deal with them.
And if its a “war” as you and others have alluded to-then the game, pardon the pun, is easy: the army with the most boots on the ground, wins. Name me a military conflict in the whole of human history that was won w/o a major boots on the ground effort.
What you and others here are attempting to do, is fight the war with only tactical airstrikes-important yes but by no means the end all be all. Now I know your aversion to babies and such, but in the end there’s really no way of getting around it Roissy-the ONLY way to ensure that the kind of country you want to continue to enjoy, that will aloow you to indulge yourself w/o imploding, is to see to it that people like you, outbreed people who *dont* think like you. Period.
Hence, my recourse to Mary Sue out in Salt Lake City. White Women like that will be more than willing to bring on the next generation of hearty Americans of the stuff that John Adams and Thomas Jefferson was made out of. Otherwise Roissy, in essence, you are outsourcing to others, of doing that which you have not found not important enough, or, God forbid, *fun* to do-which is you’re right, no doubt about it.
But if you choose that route, you have no one to blame, but yourselves. Nature, abhors a vacuum, Roissy, you know that. Somebody’s gonna give birth to a New Generation of Americans. As we speak, I’m doing my part.
Are you?
O
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Two separate issues — the white elite being the real enemy, and the fact that our country is swamped by incompatible outsiders.
I don’t know what to do about the SWPL elite. And it ain’t just the Democrats/liberals/media/NGOs, though they are the perfidious brains behind the whole thing — it’s also the Republican “free trade” pieces of shit traitors and the mainstream churches too.
Well, I do have an idea, and it involves lamp posts and corners of brick buildings. But until that glorious day comes (and it will) we do have a problem at hand.
And that problem is dealt with through border enforcement and prison sentences for employers of illegals.
I am not a cockroach or a breeding rabbit and neither are my fellow Americans and I don’t accept anyone’s exhortation to engage in a breeding war with a tsunami of five-children-by-fifteen welfare-consumming invaders.
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PA,
Again-the ONLY way to ensure that you get and maintain the kind of country you want, going into the future, is to see to it that there are more people walking around who see the world as you do, than not.
The End.
Nature abhors a vacuum, PA. And having some military experience, you more than most here know, that no war has been won without a major ground assault effort. Nor can you depend on mercenaries (Blackwater, anyone?). No easy way of getting around this, y’all.
Time to walk it like you talk it…
O
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Having two or three kids while doing your part to help the coming revolution seems to me like walking the walk…
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PA,
Indeed; now you just have to bring others of like mind and same skintone along for the ride…
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O
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ob:
For all the handwringing about Mexicans in particular, and “NAMs” in general, the real “enemy” of White folk that you like, are the SWPL crowd-a far larger, and much more influential group than Black and Brown folk combined.
the enemy within, yes. but soon there will be no gated communities for them to run to. and when that day arrives, one of two paradigms will shift:
1. they roll over and die.
2. they abandon their self-defeating ideology in a spastic fit of survivalism.
don’t be surprised how quickly even the most ardent worshippers of the PC world order switch sides to save their hides when real hide-taking is on the line.
And, let’s say that that all dreaded 1965 Immigration Act that is the culprit of all those Black folk suddenly dried up-hey, that sort of thing has happened in the USA before-you STILL have to dea with the SWPL folks, Roissy.
most likely, if the country ever gets to the point where immigration is halted, illegals kicked out, and the border locked down, the SWPLs will have had to have played a hand in helping the glorious revolution to reclaim american sanity and greatness succeed. there are simply too many of them and their allies to enact such policies without their grudging approval.
otherwise, it will be a slow fading of the light from the city on the hill, and history will have lost to the ages its greatest nation and boldest experiment in human polity.
that is, if we’re lucky. blood-soaked secession is also possible.
Hence, my recourse to Mary Sue out in Salt Lake City. White Women like that will be more than willing to bring on the next generation of hearty Americans of the stuff that John Adams and Thomas Jefferson was made out of. Otherwise Roissy, in essence, you are outsourcing to others, of doing that which you have not found not important enough, or, God forbid, *fun* to do-which is you’re right, no doubt about it.
i’ve never claimed that my lifestyle of individualistic hedonism is good for society.
as for birthrates and this broken record kindergarten taunt of yours, you do realize that birthrates are dropping all over the world, among white and non-white. there is no need for mary sue to pump out five kids to fight wars on the horizon. the US was a world beater for a long time with a population smaller than what it has now.
Again-the ONLY way to ensure that you get and maintain the kind of country you want, going into the future, is to see to it that there are more people walking around who see the world as you do, than not.
there have always been more people (5.7 billion and counting) who do not see the world as americans do, and yet america has, up till now, done pretty well for itself.
The End.
The End will not save you.
Nature abhors a vacuum, PA.
nature also abhors undefended borders.
And having some military experience, you more than most here know, that no war has been won without a major ground assault effort. Nor can you depend on mercenaries (Blackwater, anyone?). No easy way of getting around this, y’all.
shall we just bend over then and let the pirates have their way with our anuses?
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Kindergarten taunts? Nice.
Who said anythin about 5 kids, R? 3 will suffice, a lot like, uh, the Baby Boom right after WW2? The American, and largely White, population exploded then, to last some 20 years.
At least PA’s more forthcoming about the fact that the SWPLers are a much tougher nut to crack, and gameboard hypotheticals ain’t gonna cut it when they’ve got a virtual lock on public square debate, multi media presentation, political discourse and academic and social instruction and interest, Roissy. You don’t beat that w/a crack team of eggheads, you beat it w/Sarah Palins doing her duty, backed up by the Todd Palins of the world. Full stop.
The SWPL types are qute well tightly locked up into their own enclaves, they know the deal and are far away from the action should anything nasty goes down. That’s not the point: the point, again, is that those who claim to care, ain’t replacing themselves in sufficient numbers to matter 25 years from now. Period. What the rest of the world’s doing is irrelevant, although it was a nice try.
As it is often the case, it all comes down to a War of the Joneses of a sort-and the other side is winning. In politics, as in war, the side who has superior numbers, tends to win, more often than not.
I could be wrong. You’ll be so good as to teach me.
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Oh, and Social Security? White folks brought it about, and White folks fight tooth and nail to keep it. Any politician worth his or her salt knows they dare not touch the issue if the still want a job. The ARRP is hands down one of the most powerful lobbies in DC. Fuck with the Gray Panthers and you will pay. Do not get it twisted.
Ok, holla back
O
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The greatest single problem is the control of the media, especially the entertainment media, by the left.
This whole SWPL thing is a misframing of the problem. The problem isn’t that there are elites in American society. The problem is that the elite is so PC, rather than a whole lot more realistic.
It doesn’t need to become dramatically conservative. It needs to become more realistic and plan for the long term future. This idea that population swamping by people are elites then turn around and say we need to offer affirmation action to, or their children anyway, is obviously nuts. If it weren’t for adamant Jewish networking in the media (with echos in Hollywood) on this issue, it’s likely it would have changed by now, given the rising public upset.
Eisenhower clamped WAY down on illegal immigration, and did large scale deportation sweeps. Project “Wetback” is demonized by the left now of course, but it had an effect.
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Rain and: “Metal and rap are the two most masculine forms of music, just like paleocon and libertarian are the two masculine political outlooks.”
Eh. Hip Hop Culture and Music, and Hessian Metal head Culture and Music, ARE very masculine wings of popular culture music.
But Industrial Music is more masculine than Metal. Anything by Boyd Rice/NON, or Einstruzende Neubaten will make most metal sound rather feminine. Or Whitehouse, or Brighter Death Now.
Compared to most classical Industrial, Metal’s for pussies. Looped sounds of 52 Chevy’s being crushed and amplified at ear splitting amplification’s masculine music. Even 25 year old Ministry has more cojones than Korn or whatever shite kids listen to nowadays.
A lot of Classical music reeks of Testosterone too.
Extreme left wing Anarchy is pretty damn masculine, though one notes that both Right and Left Libertarians tend towards anarchism at their extreme (yes kiddies, there are both right and left wing libertarianisms, in fact lefties started using the phrase first.)
-Today’s Paleoconservatives are classical liberals, monarchists are far more Alpha.
Do you want Alpha? Read Julius Evola.
The political spectrum’s a crock anyway, real men seek truth and base their positions irrespective of where on the political spectrum it falls. The sign of an original thinker is an inability to pidgin hole him into an idiotic political dialectic whose terms are set by his enemies anyway.
Everyone else are bloody sheep. Even if they convince themselves that they are “Alphas”. I respect a sincere convinced commie who has thought out his positions far more than a standard dyed in the wool “conservative” who simply apes what everyone in his church says.
Just like I respect a sincere well thought out conservative who calls Bullshit on the current crop of P.C. leftie correctness. Real men think and reason and go where their reason takes them.
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Oh and Bhetti,
You are better off with the limies because we don’t have Marmite here in the u.s. of a.
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[…] 18, 2009 by roissy It’s been a while since the last installment of ‘Great Scenes’. Here is a video clip from the movie ‘The Philadelphia Story’, featuring Cary Grant […]
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[…] in detention for scratching devil symbols into school desks) has captured the essence of lone wolf, “I’m a rebel, Dottie” game. He is the Sneaky Fucker, or the Niche alpha. His dark style is deliberate, and he wears it […]
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[…] Pee Wee’s Big Adventure […]
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Reubens was a quality actor unlike any other in Hollywood, too bad his career was ruined.
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