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DAMN THAT FISH IS ALPHA
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I don’t think I’m the only one G Manifesto has sold his goods to.
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I’m glad I’m not the only one, Roissy. I was constantly singing that song about a month. Way better than “Prom Queen” or “Right Round.”
McDonald’s stock is up 8.1% since 3/1/09.
Which has nothing to do with more people their cheap crap because of the economy. 🙂
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It’s cheaper to have pasta and sauce, especially when feeding the whole family. Possibly healthier, depending on your generosity with salt and veggies.
Kevin Smith’s tweets are starting to look like The Beta Diaries:
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Haaa
I wonder if this “fish eyed point of view” has anything to do with PETA recently extending it’s ambit to the piscine world?
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“McDonald’s stock is up 8.1% since 3/1/09.”
Really!?
Ah, that’s bullshit. But now that I think about it I’ve been twice to Mac this last two weeks. That is more than the last five months or so.
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There’s some well known commercial that features some other creature complaining about it’s upcoming “sacrifice” in a humorous way. Maybe a chicken? Or a turkey? Anyone know?
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Bhetti–
Obviously your course of study either hasn’t covered nutrition, or that instructor needs firing. Throw out the USDA food pyramid, which I believe has been widely accepted in the Western world.
Lupo covers this well in one of his blog posts. His name in comments links to his blog.
The simple stupid is that protein, a wide variety of vegetables, and fresh fruit without overdoing the later is what’s good for you. You’ll get enough carbs from these sources. Otherwise they’re relatively evil. Exceptions exist such as needing to load for extreme energy exertions – e.g. marathon or other long distance running.
Further naturally occurring fat isn’t bad for you either. Some is better than others cause it contains essential oils. Fatty fish like salmon are particularly good for that. But animal fat is fine too. Eating natural fats in any kind of reasonable amount doesn’t increase bad cholesterol levels. BEING fat does though. Eating lots of carbs is the best way to be fat.
This is btw accepted wisdom in Hollywood and the fashion industry these days.
Of course you don’t want to eat too many calories overall for your daily average expenditure of them, which in these sedentary times tends to be fairly low for most adults, especially women, and unhappily these video game and net days for far too many children as well. However the more carbs and especially highly refined carbs (sugar in it’s various forms, stuff made from white flour, stuff made from corn, etc.) are as a percentage of your diet, the more you’ll tend to feel hungry a few hours after eating even a substantial helping. If you’re gonna eat some carbs there’s something to be said for oatmeal, I believe you all call it porridge. Lots of fiber and some heart healthy effects.
Carbs are cheap, yes. They’re also to be avoided. McDonalds if you throw out the buns, the fries, and the large sugary coke that comes with the meal (and the apple whatever it is pasty you then add) is actually better for you. Yuup.
And yes this is definitely the direction the recent research has been strongly pointing. Ask Lupo. I’ve seen many places. There’s been an enormous nutritionists institutional bias to the contrary, built upon the notion that eating fats makes you fat and gives you bad cholesterol to boot. The whole field’s careers were built upon that.
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Barbeque joints with pig mascots.
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“McDonald’s stock is up 8.1% since 3/1/09.”
Yeah, but the S&P is up over 22% in the same time period.
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Doug: Not even if it’s wholemeal pasta? 😉 They tend to focus on more hospital-based nutrition (you know… hook them up to this IV and so on) rather than what an everyday diet looks like. When a diet’s analysed after the damage is done, we look at it from the perspective of RDA numbers in terms of advice, not what that translates to in terms of real and cheap meals.
A diet rich in fibre’s the most natural, as you’re saying.
I wouldn’t call pasta and sauce the best & healthiest meal e.g. one of my favourite recipes: http://www.salmonrecipes.net/leek-and-smoked-salmon-farfalle-recipe125
Can get smoked salmon trimmings for under a pound from ASDA (UK Walmart). It has its disadvantages e.g. creaminess, carb-rich.
Mia culpa, not my instructor’s! I was focusing on cheapness & tastiness, rather than absolute health value.
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D
Basically agree with your comments on nutrition. What most commentary regarding diets overlooks is that the only thing that matters for weight control is the relationship between calories eaten and the amount of appetite suppression that results. Fats and protein are much better in this respect than carbs, especially simple carbs. This is why “low calorie” or “low fat” foods are useless for weight loss. People eat more if they are still hungry.
Appetite is a very precise guide to calorie needs if the burn rate is in the range where nature intended, ie, at about twice modern American activity levels.
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Can’t see the video. This sucks.
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What most people who comment about weight control under-appreciate is the huge importance of muscle use in body composition. Even the fittest athlete if forced to bed rest will use muscle protein first as body fuel regardless of diet. If a muscle group is being heavily used, it will be burned last in a starvation situation.
In other words, a sedentary lifestyle plus calorie restriction = flabby weakness. Lots of working out = increased muscle mass, appropriate appetite and preferential burning of fat stores.
People who moan about the difficulty of weight loss should just watch the US military training regimens. It works nearly 100%.
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Rum I think a good part of what works about the military training is that the people eat at almost the exact same time every day 3 times a day.
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I take its a mcds commercial.
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McDonald’s stock is up 8.1% since 3/1/09.
so are waist sizes 🙂
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This one’s my favourite, recently.
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I am checking out which smilies work here. Using the reference at:
http://codex.wordpress.org/Using_Smilies
Saturday afternoon geekery! Assuming I have coded correctly and WP does not chock on all the markup.
add a colon before the characters within quote marks
smile 🙂 = “)” or ” -)” or “smile:”
= “mrgreen:”
biggrin 😀 = “D” or “-D” or “grin:”
sad 😦 = “(” or “-(” or “sad:”
surprised 😮 = “o” or “-o” or “eek:”
confused 😕 = “?” or “-?” or “???:”
mad 😡 = “x” or “-x” or “mad:”
razz 😛 = “P” or “-P” or “razz:”
neutral 😐 = “|” or “-|” or “neutral:”
lol 😆 = “lol:”
redface 😳 = “oops:”
cry 😥 = “cry:”
evil 👿 = “evil:”
twisted 😈 = “twisted:”
rolleyes 🙄 = “roll:”
exclaim ❗ = “!:”
question ❓ = “?:”
idea 💡 = “idea:”
arrow ➡ = “arrow:”
mrgreen
wink 😉 = “wink:”
shock 😯 = “shock:”
cool 😎 = “cool:”
add a semicolon before the characters within quote marks
wink 😉 = “)” or “-)”
add an “8” before the characters within quote marks
eek 😯 = “O” or “-O”
cool 8) = “)” or “-) “
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;fuck
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:fuck
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I’m getting nothing here default
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:fuck:
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❓
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:beatdown:
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Gunslingergregi
Go to the link ( http://codex.wordpress.org/Using_Smilies ) in my original post. It is easier to read the characters needed. I just wanted to see if the worked. It seems they do.
However :fuck: does not seem to have a smiley. Pity 😦 That would be 8O. As would :beatdown:.
Hope you are not 😕 that would make me :oops:.
That is enough dorkiness for today (for ever maybe). Good thing I post under a screen name. Chicks would never touch me after this showing. No alpha guy cares about smilies. Well maybe 🙄 and :twisted:.
😆
[and that is really my last smiley]
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Default: Yes, these secret indulgences show why you need game. While you’re here, http://media.npr.org/documents/2009/feb/smartbitches.pdf <– flowchart from ‘Beyond Heaving Bosoms’ showing you how romance novels have changed.
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This might work
:hump: = colon + “hump:”
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Speaking of people besides McD’s who’re benefiting from the recession: http://www.delawareonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=200990406060 Note the burning comments to the unfortunate writer of the piece who knows regrettably little about the genre.
I reckon roissy needs to use his Game to write a romance novel. Cash in, dude, cash in.
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Bhetti
I am hurt. Deeply hurt. Even the geekiest of geeks wants to at least pretend that they might have some alpha blood flowing in their veins. But you shatter that illusion.
“Beyond Heaving Bosoms,” who wants to get beyond heaving bosums? Heaving bosums, bring ’em on.
A flow chart for love. When I write my first rom-fiction, I will use that. Of course, I will have to figure out how to include goldfish or some other small wriggly animal.
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Bhetti
Wow the comments really piled on. Who knew people took romantic fiction so seriously.
Hell hath no fury like a romantic fiction reader scorned.
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😯
:wink
wink:
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Dam another saturday night gone. Default go buy a used car place it in the backyard (or maybe a field) and shoot the shit out of it with an AR-15 then proceed to smash the crap out of it with a baseball bat. I gaurrentee you will feel some form of alphaness. Could also be a good way to rehabilitate prisoners before the turn them loose on society he he he
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Thursday & agnostic have you seen what Cassie has done to her hair?
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Just don’t shoot your eye out.
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Default: Another extract from Beyond Heaving Bosoms. http://www.smartbitchestrashybooks.com/index.php/book/excerpts/10-commandments-of-heroine-conduct/
A lot of this stuff overlaps with what you guys have been saying about the conduct of women. If roissy would read ‘Beyond Heaving Bosoms’, I will pay for his copy.
london: gunny, I know that’s you.
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london: or is it Default? Damn, failed at my detective work.
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Another Roissy post that broke first on Dealbreaker. Assholes there have been commenting “GIVE ME BACK THAT FILET-O-FISH, GIVE ME THAT FISH” since the Sunday after the ad dropped.
Fast foods are a staple of any responsible “recession bundle.” I decided around December that “all stock prices are complete bullshit, dictated only by emotions, and I’m out!” Straight ETFs for the kid since. I don’t have the time or energy to catch the proper waves right now. When it comes to anticipating emotional decision-making, I have been channeling my energies toward gaming women.
“Yeah, but the S&P is up over 22% in the same time period.”
Salient point, Chuck.
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lol yea defaults has same icon as me apparently. Same with owm it is starting to get a little scary. London may just have the same icon to.
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I know I am a sick individual cannon but I am riding citi past the earnings release lol
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Also, the song of the year so far comes from Cam’ron… just last week, in fact.
“Way better than “Prom Queen” or “Right Round.” ”
“Right Round” jacks a euro-pop chorus and becomes a “hip hop” song of the year nominee. This is not the same genre as it was in the 90’s. I’ve commented here on this already.
For the record, I like that track anyway. Aesthetically appealing.
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Gunslingergregi
De-geek myself by shooting? Are you sure?
http://www.geekswithguns.com/
I think the gravatar is the same for everyone that does not enter an e-mail.
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http://www.twnside.org.sg/title2/susagri/susagri018.htm
Organically grown food is the only SANE choice. If the true healthy cost of pouring billions of tons of chemicals and pesticides into the environment were calculated “conventionally” grown food would cost 100 times as much.
My daughter calls it “cancer causing technology”! The vast majority have been successfully and conveniently brainwashed into a chemically & media induced stupor on the issue, making so many hapless and ignorant “victims” of cancer. Where does cancer come from? Seems nobody knows!!! LOL
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Bhetti
I will read your link later. I have to go now.
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Who can tell me how to choose my own comment icon? I’m sure I could google but I just spent like two minutes without zeroing in, so I thought I’d throw it here.
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Yea sara I was talking to this nepal guy today why he was so happy. I think maybe it is because he has not been brainwashed about anything.
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Doug
I’m thinking cannon may know something.
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Although he did say finding a virgin in the city is like finding a needle in a haystack where he lives lol Maybe cities just suck (literally) lol.
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“I know I am a sick individual cannon but I am riding citi past the earnings release”
Gregi, I’m not mad at you! SKF got murdered this week. I believe that it’s still worth holding long, but like I said regarding individual banks: I’m out!
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let the liberal scumfuck tax cheats decide which stocks will perform this week, tell me what the “profit to earnings” ratios are
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hmmm, did i just say that out loud?
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doug: just create a wordpress blog and upload an avatar. takes two seconds and you don’t have to even post anything.
gregi: i know more 19 year old mothers than 19 year old virgins. and i grew up in the burbs! in her 20’s – forget about it.
my cousin once told me he’d taken 12 v-cards in his life. his wife – not one of them. i wish i’d bloomed earlier to get in on this action. he grew up in maryland and racked them up in college there.
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Yea that is funny as fuck they change an accounting rule and now oh look we made money. Stock market is kind of a joke. But look at bac at 9 citi at 3 and citi was staying around half. Oh and look a mdr back at 15 god dang. Only time I really really got fucked on market I got greedy on margin. Still small business tends to beat market by a long shot. I think really my plan for 10k to people will work out. Like every 4 months give someone with some dreams a push. Sidenote I think I may have finally convinced my little sister to be rich lol Took 5 years. She is finally ready to use her talents using my advice. She was going to develope websites for people whatever. I was like shit develope this you can make 500 or take half the profits. My second 10k project. Life is funny. Now if I can just get someone to run the fucking almond machine I bought for 6k.
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Bhetti–
I read a while ago in some thread or another you’re asking me why I believe that pre-nups aren’t generally enforced in Britain, since you talked to a solicitor or a friend of one or something who said they usually were. I didn’t have the answer at the top of my head, but I was sure that’s the general legal wisdom.
Here is one high ranking google hit: Link.
Needless to say I don’t agree with this Solicitor firm’s defense of the English approach. It’s virtually heedless to male interests.
It makes me seriously wonder why any rich or likely to be rich men in England ever marry. I’m entirely serious. If you don’t think if they pulled a widespread strike on that that scads of women would not be happy to live with them under some sort of contract arrangement, you’re kidding yourself about female nature.
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Doug I see code word children brought up a few times. I guess marriage is trying to be ruined. People usually think the one they marry is special though. Except that the person that divorces them tends not to be the same person they married. Oh well.
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Cannon maybe the market swing is to try and get some of that mass of baby boomer money into the population in the form of business investment. If everyone just sits on there 401k and ira money and doesn’t do anything with it except be selfish even to their own detriment. Many people just got totally assfucked in market and they just took it. Now try having an individual person ask them for money to start business suddenly they would be more worried about losing money. If you spread it out though. And half succeed your still doing better than 9 percent a year.
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Sara
There was plenty of cancer before modern agriculture. Without modern agriculture, there would not be enough food to go around. Deciding which half should starve to death would make for interesting politics.
The best way to lower cancer rates is to lower life expectancy. It is a trick used in many poor countries.
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“Many people just got totally assfucked in market and they just took it.”
Some people just sued Merrill for not disclosing risk responsibly. Merrill settled with a no fault verdict. BAC bought Merrill and Barack Obama signed off on picking up their tab with tax dollars, of which there are not enough.
Many people also made 15% per year in their employer-assigned 401k’s. Maybe Barney Frank should sue them.
I like your idea though, it encourages and rewards ambition, a typically lacking characteristic.
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Is this supposed to the a good commercial?
I thought is sucked balls.
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Scary part about market though.
2005 100% gain
2006 100% gain
2007 100% gain
2008 -100% loss
How much do you have left Noooooooooo
Small business
10k guy ran off with money
10k guy dies money eaten by rats
10k guy makes 300 a day
10k guy makes 300 a day
10k guy makes nothing and cries himself to sleep nightly you tell him f it don’t worry about it
10k starts making 200 a month
10k starts making 1k a month
10k starts making 2k a month
10k starts making 3k a month
10k Somali pirate picks up guy takes his 10k
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Still comes out to 10 percent a month lol
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To relate it to game. Get your base of money coming in for you from your work. Then do this. You won’t need the profit on the money you give out therefore money will roll in.
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On diet, it seems the only thing thats been conclusively proven is that calories in must be less than calories out.
That and get enough nutrients.
Everything else, low carb, low fat etc. is just a fashion in how to get people to feel motivated/full enough to stop eating.
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This reminds me of the Sopranos. When Tony was having the talking-fish dreams that clued him into the fact that Big Pussy was snitching to the FBI.
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Organic food is a bullshit marketing gimmick for SWPLs. Eat veggies (but not potatoes), fish, eggs, meat, don’t let any greenies convince you an apple with worms inside is better than an insecticide-sprayed one, and you’ll be fine.
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This is actually a realistic ad: it is Ballard, and the guys were snorting way too much crank on the trawler before they got back to Fishermen’s Terminal.
Call it “Revenge of the Pollock.”
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Paleo Diet is all anyone ever needs to know about staying fit, eliminating risks for cancer and diabetes and eliminating acne.
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From this introduction
“For millions of years, humans and their relatives have eaten meat, fish, fowl and the leaves, roots and fruits of many plants. One big obstacle to getting more calories from the environment is the fact that many plants are inedible. Grains, beans and potatoes are full of energy but all are inedible in the raw state as they contain many toxins. There is no doubt about that- please don’t try to eat them raw, they can make you very sick.
Around 10,000 years ago, an enormous breakthrough was made- a breakthrough that was to change the course of history, and our diet, forever. This breakthrough was the discovery that cooking these foods made them edible- the heat destroyed enough toxins to render them edible. Grains include wheat, corn, barley, rice, sorghum, millet and oats. Grain based foods also include products such as flour, bread, noodles and pasta. These foods entered the menu of New Stone Age (Neolithic) man, and Paleolithic diet buffs often refer to them as Neolithic foods.
The cooking of grains, beans and potatoes had an enormous effect on our food intake- perhaps doubling the number of calories that we could obtain from the plant foods in our environment. Other advantages were soon obvious with these foods:
· they could store for long periods (refrigeration of course being unavailable in those days)
· they were dense in calories- ie a small weight contains a lot of calories, enabling easy transport
· the food was also the seed of the plant- later allowing ready farming of the species
These advantages made it much easier to store and transport food. We could more easily store food for winter, and for nomads and travelers to carry supplies. Food storage also enabled surpluses to be stored, and this in turn made it possible to free some people from food gathering to become specialists in other activities, such as builders, warriors and rulers. This in turn set us on the course to modern day civilization. Despite these advantages, our genes were never developed with grains, beans and potatoes and were not in tune with them, and still are not. Man soon improved further on these advances- by farming plants and animals.
Instead of being able to eat only a fraction of the animal and plant life in an area, farming allows us to fill a particular area with a large number of edible plants and animals. This in turn increases the number of calories that we can obtain from an area by some 10 to 100 fold or more. Then followed the harnessing of dairy products, which allow man to obtain far more calories from the animal over its lifetime than if it were simply slaughtered for meat. Dairy products are interesting as they combine a variety of components- some of which our genes were ready for and some not. Whist cows milk is ideal for calves, there are several very important differences between it and human milk. For example, the brain of a calf is only a tiny fraction of its body weight whereas humans have very big brains. Not surprisingly, cows milk is low in critical nutrients for brain development, particularly omeg 3 fats.
Paleolithic Diet buffs refer to the new foods as Neolithic foods and the old as Paleolithic Diet foods. In simple terms we see Neolithic as bad and Paleolithic as good. Since then, some other substances have entered the diet- particularly salt and sugar, and more recently a litany of chemicals including firstly caffeine then all other additives, colourings, preservatives, pesticides etc.
Grains, Beans and Potatoes (GBP) share the following important characteristics:
· They are all toxic when raw- there is no doubt about this- it is a fact that no competent source would dispute- they can be extremely dangerous and it is important never to eat them raw or undercooked. These toxins include enzyme blockers, lectins and other types. I will talk about them in detail later as they are very important.
· Cooking destroys most but not all of the toxins. Insufficient cooking can lead to sickness such as acute gastroenteritis.
· They are all rich sources of carbohydrate, and once cooked this is often rapidly digestible-giving a high glycemic index (sugar spike).
· They are extremely poor sources of vitamins (particularly vitamins A, B-group, folic acid and C), minerals, antioxidants and phytosterols.
Therefore diets high in grains beans and potatoes (GBP):
· Contain toxins in small amounts
· Have a high glycemic index (ie have a similar effect to raw sugar on blood glucose levels)
· Are low in many vitamins, minerals, antioxidants and phytosterols- ie they are the original “empty calories”
· Have problems caused by the GBP displacing other foods
As grains, beans and potatoes form such a large proportion of the modern diet, you can now understand why it is so common for people to feel they need supplements or that they need to detoxify (ie that they have toxins in their system)- indeed both feelings are absolutely correct. Unfortunately, we don’t necessarily realize which supplements we need, and ironically when people go on detoxification diets they unfortunately often consume even more Neolithic foods (eg soy beans) and therefore more toxins than usual (perhaps they sometimes benefit from a change in toxins). More detail on these issues follows in subsequent pages.
The essentials of the Paleolithic Diet are:
Eat none of the following:
· Grains- including bread, pasta, noodles
· Beans- including string beans, kidney beans, lentils, peanuts, snow-peas and peas
· Potatoes
· Dairy products
· Sugar
· Salt
Eat the following:
· Meat, chicken and fish
· Eggs
· Fruit
· Vegetables (especially root vegetables, but definitely not including potatoes or sweet potatoes)
· Nuts, eg. walnuts, brazil nuts, macadamia, almond. Do not eat peanuts (a bean) or cashews (a family of their own)
· Berries- strawberries, blueberries, raspberries etc.
Try to increase your intake of:
· Root vegetables- carrots, turnips, parsnips, rutabagas, Swedes
· Organ meats- liver and kidneys (I accept that many people find these unpalatable and won’t eat them)
Expect some minor tuning problems- don’t worry, you can deal with them:
· It will take some time for your body to adjust to the changes after all these years. There is a huge surge in your vitamin intake. There is a huge decrease in your toxin intake.”
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I think it needs to be said that the Paleo or moderate anachronist diet is more of a lifestyle that includes a more human friendly diet. Once you do it, you have alot more energy, and not alot of choice but to move more. Moving more makes you feel better, so you move more.
I put the family on the plan gradually over the past year and a half, one change at a time. We’re all feeling better, not getting sick nearly as often, and when we do, it’s shorter and less intense than most others around with the same cold or flu.
Now, we’re at the point that we’ve reduced our consumption of grains to an occasional side dish or dessert. I’ve stopped ordering bread, and the few occasions we do have it, I bake it myself from a well fermented dough.
We also soak rice and barley overnight when we have it…beans as well. I’m not quite ready to give up beans just yet.
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dougjnn, gunslingergregi:
Go to gravatar.com and sign up, give them your email address, upload your picture to their server, then when you comment here put in your email and you’ll have your own picture.
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Is this the Dukes of Hazzard? Where’s Daisy?
If you want to wreck a car, try demolition derby if that still exists. If you want some form of alpha, try the martial arts. The worst that could happen is that you’ll get hurt, but it’s usually not serious. It takes effort, but it’s achievable by adults.
Girl’s gymnastics takes more guts and skill. There isn’t much like watching your little kid do a backflip on the beam, or a release move over the high bar. It’s not something an adult can ever get good at.
If alphaness in this context means self confidence, try toastmasters. No risk of injury, but studies show it is highly stressful for most people to talk to a crowd.
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MarkD, just pray your martial arts instructor isn’t banging a gymnastics coach. :: twitch ::
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Watching women’s gymnastics and volleyball always make me tingle in my bathing suit area.
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Is the dark-haired guy in the video Kevin Smith or some unknown actor?
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Ok, now I’m legit
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Yea markd he gets to destroy something somewhat alpha. He understands that with his own two hands he can do a massive amount of damage. Therefore he begins to have confidence in his abilities to protect, alpha.
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Is the dark-haired guy in the video Kevin Smith or some unknown actor?
Nevermind, it’s not Kevin Smith. According to Wikipedia:
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Now I will agree wrestling,martial arts, boxing does put you in some top percent or so. Someone with training will more than likely be able to best someone without it.
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Truth if this page starts containing 5 gigs of shit because everyone has a pic and I get fired for downloading too much. I am gonna be pissed. At least if it was pics of woman it might be worth it.
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The other bad part to contracting they own you until you leave or get fired. But it does make for a nice saving envirement. Take the good with the bad I guess.
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Rum
The best way to lower cancer rates is to lower life expectancy. It is a trick used in many poor countries.
HA HA. You’re a real comedian and and I must be a real loser because I don’t want to blindly eat poison or have it in my water or air! I must not be mainstream! I must be some kind of stupid hippie who never watched television! I need to just go along with the status quo and not rock the boat like you and jillions of others so I can have my cancer and thank the good lord for agribusiness and being allowed the chance to die of cancer for the good of society.
A white male of the baby boom generation is about twice as likely to get cancer as his grandfather was, and a white female of the same age has about a 50% greater chance of getting cancer than her grandmother did, according to a study published in February (1994) in the JOURNAL OF THE
AMERICAN MEDICAL ASSOCIATION (JAMA).[1]
Here ya go, honey.
Enjoy.
http://oehha.ca.gov/prop65/prop65_list/files/060906P65single.pdf
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gunslinger
Yea sara I was talking to this nepal guy today why he was so happy. I think maybe it is because he has not been brainwashed about anything.
What wit!
rafal
Organic food is a bullshit marketing gimmick for SWPLs. Eat veggies (but not potatoes), fish, eggs, meat, don’t let any greenies convince you an apple with worms inside is better than an insecticide-sprayed one, and you’ll be fine.
Bullshit marketing scheme? Wow. It doesn’t take a GENIUS to figure out that ingesting cancer causing chemicals and supporting the use of cancer causing technology is a bad idea. But is does take AWARENESS and believe it or not there are people who are NOT hippies who eat organic foods. You’re an idiot, pure and simple, but mostly you’re ASLEEP. Wake up honey; it will be Okay. Your mother will still love you hopefully.
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rum, gunslinger, and rafal
I would definitely ignore this. It might make you stand out from the crowd or worse; unpopular with your friends and family.
http://orgprints.org/9944/01/Hallmann__P_Final_tomato_Hohenheim_2007.pdf
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Sara
Slower growing “organically” raised plants have more complex chemical content but so what? Who can say how much is enough.
Anyone who puts a purely “natural” plant thru a mass spectrometer discovers that it is chock full of substances that have been labelled as “cancer causing.”
The rate of reported cancers is hugely dependent on someone bothering to diagnose it. If there is little medical care available cancer is much less likely to be noticed and recorded. Afflicted individuals die of something else (or what looks like something else).
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Well sarah when I live in indo I will be eating what is grown. I plan on also taking down cows and eating them fresh with my bare hands. He He He
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rum and gunslinger
You’re both hopeless idiots. Also, I’m not a vegetarian, but don’t eat red meat, and if I was I’d be a hypocrite because I wear leather shoes. Nobody’s perfect.
I found these links and thought I’d posted them, but apparently not. As far as gimmicks and marketing schemes? You seem to think that any bullshit that’s accepted by the vast majority of people cannot possibly be a gimmick or a scheme. Such is mass hypnosis.
Snore.
http://orgprints.org/9944/01/Hallmann__P_Final_tomato_Hohenheim_2007.pdf
Basically this is just “common” sense which is anything but common. You’re in good company.
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I thought I already posted this:
Regarding man boobs and erectile dysfunction and the use of estrogenic compounds in YOUR FOOD.
Men: “Hormone Hell” is NOT Just for Women!
By Layne Lowery
Can men go through menopause? Absolutely! You might not know it, but estrogen dominance, or andropause, is a major health hazard for men over 40. This hormone imbalance occurs when your body builds up too much estrogen and xenoestrogens — which are synthetic forms of the hormone.
You’ve probably never heard of estrogen dominance — and your doctor would probably misdiagnose your symptoms. But this could be the reason you suffer from…
Memory loss and “senior moments”
Depression and mood swings
Sleepless nights
Unwanted weight gain– especially belly fat
Muscles turning into flab
Low sex drive and erectile dysfunction (ED)
Enlarged prostate and other prostate problems– and a frequent need to urinate
Hair loss
Male breasts or “man boobs”
There are three main reasons why these unpleasant symptoms of male menopause may be tormenting you: 1) aging, 2) environmental pollutants, and 3) your diet.
As you get older, your body doesn’t make as much testosterone. The remaining testosterone gets weaker and easily converts to estrogen. Unfortunately, mid-life weight gain increases estrogen production because fat cells contain the aromatase enzyme, which changes testosterone into estrogen.
Another cause for hormone imbalances comes from xenoestrogens — or toxins that imitate estrogen– which are dumped into the environment by industrial, agricultural, and chemical companies. In his health newsletter, Dr. HingHau Tsang said these phony hormones are offshoots of products such as spermacides, detergent, plastics, plastic bottles, pesticides, herbicides, personal care products, and lacquers.
Dr. Tsang also said commercially raised beef, chicken and pork, as well as birth control pills and canned foods, contain xenoestrogens. He said massive amounts of hormones are regularly injected into beef and poultry, which can upset your natural estrogen levels.1
John R. Lee, M.D., an expert in natural progesterone therapy, thinks that significant amounts of estrogen are the main cause of prostate enlargement AND prostate cancer!2
And estrogen dominance can also lead to erectile dysfunction (ED). According to Nick Delgado, Ph.D., a leading expert on anti-aging, a number of men with ED are “at greater risk for heart attacks, strokes, diabetes, or hypertension.”3
So whether you call it estrogen dominance, “male menopause,” or andropause — estrogen overload is a real health hazard. And as indicated in a report titled “Manopause” by Lisa Marshall, large numbers of baby boomers are being hit with symptoms of male menopause.4
Therefore, Dr. John Morley, lead researcher of estrogen dominance in men and head of the geriatrics division at Saint Louis University Medical School, predicts that, “We are going to see an explosion of interest in it.”5
What does this mean for you? Have your hormone levels checked to ensure that you don’t have elevated levels of estrogen that can cause major health problems. A good naturopathic practitioner can advise you on lifestyle changes and nutritional supplements that will help keep your hormones in balance and reduce your risk of both male menopause and chronic disease.
Alright. You losers can do more research, and there’s plenty, or not. I’m done trying to convince you when you don’t want to be convinced. Enjoy your femininity.
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lol sara what I’ll be eating chickens and cows that were alive minutes or days before. Plus your organic food is still grown using pesticides. My food will be organic. But yea hope to put hydroponics in so they can all be rich and keep there culture. Supposedly hydro food has same nutrients as any other. People get cancer and die. They also get hit by cars and die. Death is so far a fact of life. Why do you think you want to live forever? So you can keep working your ass off just to survive lol
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lol lol lol
Yeah, I’d like to die peacefully in my sleep and not be a huge burden on my family or suffer great pain and misery for years and years on end or have huge medical bills and pain and suffering and die a horrible death if I can help it. But gosh, golly gee whiz, I could get crushed by a semi truck on my way home from work and suffer the same fate, so who cares? Nothing like not givin’ a shit! I could be like my dad, who’s deteriorating in a nursing home with tubes and wires all over him!
I posted an awesome link about man boobs and erectile dysfunction caused by estrogenic compounds in the environment but it keeps no showing up. Glad to hear your eating organic, Gunslinger. Heck, there may be hope for you after all.
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Sara
There might well be many problems being created by exotic pollutants effecting human endocrine systems. Sperm counts have fallen dramatically, for example.
I think people are kidding themselves however if they think that they can avoid bad chemicals in the modern world. For one thing, (despite your fundamentalist certainties) no one has a good grasp of what and where the bad actors are. Just chanting “natural” or “organic” is not likely to do you much good. All sorts of traditional, pre-technology foods are full of bad stuff and always have been. It is one reason our ancestors cooked everything they ate.
And 90% of your water intake is going to be tap/ground water unless you live in a space capsule.
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Beta Files.
This is not really beta, I just wonder if I did it well or not.
I spent this Easter Sunday (I’m Roman Catholic) in the new house of my aunt with a good swimming pool, close to an historical beach town in Southwest Europe and with some american suburbs style houses nearby. Very nice.
I was with my (female) cousin. She is slightly younger than me (16 yo) and she’s a bit futile. So that that once in while, she laughs of everything I say and “kinos” on me. And I’ll kino half she “kinos” me on her. We were in the “american style suburbs area” where a dog started to pursue me and my cousin. My cousin started then to be afraid of the dog and I was kind of protecting her. She was afraid because the dog would aproximate us from behind in high speed but whenever one of us (mainly myself) turned around the dog would run away just to return when it had a chance.
I may have some dificulty to qualify my cousin but she’s not batalanty ugly (nor beautifull) and she’s not fat. I’ll give her a desinteresting 5, but she may be a 6.
In this, we kept going our way when the dog lost interest in us and went to bark to other dogs. However one of the dogs (a very agresive one, bulldog style, always barking and making that “rrrrrrr” to everything that moved) was being handled by a ~19 years old girl who pleased me well (a 7). She was somewhat “ashamed” for her dog’s behaviour but she was also laughing at the whole situation. I found her so appealing that I thought to myself that I should talk to her and visit my aunt and cousine more times, this while my cousine said “see, look at her, I have to make friends here as I am new in the neighbourhood”.
What was my game (please, give suggestions on what my behaviour should had been and about “dog game”):
When I got the seven (she was laughing/smiling but also embarassed) looking at me, eye contact, I tried, without much eye contact to “dominate the beast” – her dog.
Was that somewhat gay?? A man who gets down to calm a dog down?
More, the dog was obviously “rrrrrrring” and barking at me while she stopped the dog from attacking me… the dog was saying something like “you son of the bitch… if she lets me to do so, I’ll kill you”.
And with the dog in this state, I bent down towards the dog and asked her. “Can I passed my hand over the head of your dog”, to at she replied “I think it’s better for you not to do so”. To what I relpied “Is your dog always like this?” and then looked to my cousin and said “see, I like this dog’s temper”. She answered me with a: “Oh yes, this dog is a bad ass”.
Was this simply stupid?
I don’t know, but I hope to see this girl again and run some game on her. I know where she lives now (or where her vaccation’s home is) and I can be around in weekends or something…
Was my game apropriate? Please tell me more. Thank you. All advices will be wellcomed. Especially in the dog game area. And I’ll advice Roissy to make a post about gaming girls with dogs.
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Sara,
Take your soft-minded estrogen-addled placebo diet elsewhere.
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Rum
And 90% of your water intake is going to be tap/ground water unless you live in a space capsule.
Yes, my love, that’s why I use THIS:
http://www.naturalnews.com/019825.html
You didn’t really think I was that stupid I hope. Stupid, yes. That stupid. NO.
jackson
placebo diet? WTF? Fools, fools, everywhere fools! I used to know how to say that in Russian.
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sara but this is how people in third world grow food Organic hhaaaaaaaaaaassss pesticides.
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click on this if u dare
http://oehha.ca.gov/prop65/prop65_list/files/060906P65single.pdf
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jackson
That’s a tad harsh on the basis of her being an organic true believer. A whole lot of women, many of them hotties, are you know.
Also it’s nice to have some estrogen around here don’t you think, so long as they doen’t try to derail or troll?
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rum
Maybe roissy is getting sick of me, but many of my more brilliant posts are not being posted.
I use this to eliminate chemicals and heavy metals because I still have to breathe for one thing. I’m not that stupid to think that only eating organic will save me. A study was done that included vegans and the babies born from them had just as many cancer causing chemicals (as many as 200 different kinds) in their umbilical cord blood as those who ate mainstream diets. Still, is it not SMART to support a method of growing food that does not contribute billions of pounds cancer causing chemicals into the environment. What a stupid question! And also to support eating foods with more nutrients to prevent disease? Another really idea apparently. WAKE UP! RRRRRIIIIIIINNNNNNGGGGG!
http://www.naturalnews.com/019825.html
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Sara interesting list whats cooler is I could pronounce them all. Why no mention of uranium. Again though people die it is a bitch. This is the problem with woman with masters degrees. They find every study in the world when raising there kids. But then like idiots they tell there kid about those studies. Read the studies great try to keep your kids out of harms way great but do not teach your kid every fucking study you read. Let them live or die in peace they will anyway.
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Teaching fear teaching brainwashing. Tomorrow there may be a study that organic food is bad for you. Then what ya gonna do.
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The problem with knowing every bad thing in the world is that out of 5 billion people or whatever you will find people that like to fuck camels but that doesn’t mean everyone likes to fuck camels or that even a small percentage like to fuck camels. It just means that those people could be the 3 in 5 billion who have a camel predelection. What are the odds that your kid is going to grow up fucking camels.
ps. I don’t fuck camels.
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OK Sara, I took the dare and looked at a very long list of chemical compounds. I must admit that I feel releaved to have survived facing up to your fearsome dare.
Here is dare for you. Try to live on planet earth without some exposure to things that are bad for you – especially given how little is known what those things are.
But I forgot… Back in the Goode Olde Days when the earth was young and free of sin and pollution of any kind life spans were nearly infinite. Heck, the first settlers to America all lived to a 110, on average. All that clear mountain water and crystalline air…
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Sara I
Dying of cancer (because of red meat/chemicals) = Alpha
Living for ever (while eating vegie/organo stuff) = beta
🙂
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PS
Do you like my new gravatar?
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Default: Your gravatar disturbs me on a deep level, in a bad way. A close-up of a fat child’s face, really? This is, of course, another reason why you need game. 😛
All those pastel coloured gravatar fillers were so lovely and pleasing to my similarly coloured female neurones. I mourn.
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Bhetti
You have never anything nice to say to me do you?
Maybe you will like my new(er) gravatar.
[if it shows up. It can take a few minutes for a change to appear]
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Don’t listen to her default its a trick. Keep cartman!!!
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Bhetti
Just for you. Because I know you still mourn your lost love AsiaJewishFist, I present the old (non-pastel I am afraid) gravatar filler.
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Bhetti
I presume your (female) neurons are actually closer to this color (gravatar grey). But of course you are the med student, so maybe I am wrong.
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Gunslingergregi
He is back.
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Default:
I thought of saying something similar but Bhetti’s pinned it.
She’s right.
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Default-
Avoid child faces altogether, unless your level of cultural sophistication suddenly cadipults up 3 sigmas.
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Gunslingergregi
Here is the other gravatar (the one that mean Bhetti did not like).
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She is not mean default she is a woman he he he You are learning.
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dougjnn
You will have to explain that (“cultural sophistication”) to me.
I mean avatars, gravatars, and most things to do with the Internet are not exactly culturally sophisticated. I mean it is all supposed to be a bit silly.
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Default: They taught me the grey colour of neurones in medschool but if roissy says they’re pastel, then he must be right.
I confess to a special place of hate for Cartman in my heart.
Thank you for your touching tribute to my recently deceased love. I spilled a delicate tear or two.
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Bhetti
Pastel tears, I hope.
BTW: The gravatars are not Cartman, but are based on Southpark characters. They were created at http://www.sp-studio.de/
The “child” was created when gravatar.com tried to create a cropped version of my original. It created a version exactly like the “child” one (zoomed in to the mouth). I thought it look kind of cool. It was supposed to look more pissed off than child like.
The spiky haired one is pretty much what I created first time (I made some changes because the original did not look very good reduced in size).
They are supposed to be silly. I am really sick of the gray abstract art thing. It just had to go.
I obviously had too much spare time this weekend (creating gravatars and the collection-of-smilies post I created yesterday).
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Default: I’m really an ‘It’s nice if I’m not calling you a girl’ type. I’m trying to change this so I will express my affection and admiration in a sanitised manner for your recent posts, especially in relation to one of my favourite subjects (romance novels!) and the wit you have displayed.
Is that enough ego-stroking? MEN!
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Default: All that looks like Cartman, gets the hate of Cartman 😉 It is an unreasoning thing. Use whatever you wish! I wasn’t being particularly serious.
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Bhetti
No amount of ego (or any other kind) stroking is too much. Ever. WOMEN!
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You learn something new everyday! I shall note that well.
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Bhetti
Don’t worry, neither was I.
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Is this where I say ‘Your place or mine?’
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Bhetti
I know a place that rents web space by the hour…
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I’ll damage something if there’s any more hilarity!
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Bhetti
You are right. I have to go to bed… er…
…er… to sleep (perchance to dream) of course.
Really I have to go.
Goodnight.
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Keep those dreams PG, Hamlet.
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In case PG isn’t used in the US:
‘PG’ Parental Guidance – General viewing, but some scenes may be unsuitable for young children
Unaccompanied children of any age may watch. A ‘PG’ film should not disturb a child aged around eight or older. However, parents are advised to consider whether the content may upset younger or more sensitive children.
http://www.bbfc.co.uk/classification/c_pg.php
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Sara, while I agree with you on the eating properly, processed foods are not the only reason we get more cancer.
How about all those little things that used to make us terminally ill?
Measles, rubella, flu, TB, whooping cough, asthma, diabetes, tetanus, polio, smallpox, cholera, diptheria, bubonic plague, syphilis, gonorrhea, mumps, septicaemia and so on ad infinitum.
Surely modern medicine has to accept some blame in all this?
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Doug, if you really want hippy hotties, you want to check out Veggie Love lol.
This is a scary site.
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Bhetti
The whole rating scale was invented in Hollywood.
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gunslinger
Teaching fear teaching brainwashing. Tomorrow there may be a study that organic food is bad for you. Then what ya gonna do.
Oh, stop eating I guess. You can go back to sleep now, honey.
nilk
How about all those little things that used to make us terminally ill?
We’re doing So, SO much better now, we should quit while we’re ahead, huh? You can go back to sleep now, sweetie.
Rum
Here is dare for you. Try to live on planet earth without some exposure to things that are bad for you – especially given how little is known what those things are.
Ahhhhhh….sleep….glorious sleep. Hit that snooze button, Rummy honey. Sweet dreams.
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Dying of cancer (because of red meat/chemicals) = Alpha
Living for ever (while eating vegie/organo stuff) = beta
Indeed. That IS the normal (somnambulist) opinion. Come here honey, I have something sweet for you….;) Now, don’t fall asleep on me.
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nilk
During the past 20 years, at least 30 new diseases have emerged:
http://www.twnside.org.sg/title/dise-cn.htm
Read if you want to. Contrary to Gunslingers opinion, I don’t thrive on studies or statistics of a negative nature. Only when I want to make a point or solve some huge personal problem do I look for them. I don’t watch the news either. I care about my personal health and my daughter’s and cats and if my knowledge helps someone else, that’s great. Most don’t want the help because they’re taking long naps and don’t want to be disturbed. Staying awake is a huge undertaking in this world and it’s all I can do to not get into a hypnotic trance myself.
You are getting very sleeeeepyyyy………!
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Sara I
😯 Yikes! Now I now how a fly feels when the spider tells him to “rest here a while.”
I don’t want to get into a long argument over organic food except to say there are probably some benefits but overall it is over hyped and over priced.
If we all went organic we would, need to set aside more land for growing food, need to transfer capital and labor to food production (loss of wealth), lose more food to spoilage (preservatives do preserve, as does packaging), and lose more food to rot or parasites.
Industrial food has its problems, but has brought health and nutrition (cheaper food that keeps) to many people. Frozen food keeps most of its nutrition and while canned food may lose some nutrition it keeps (and that is perhaps more important).
Despite my jokes, I am not cavalier towards my health. I use fresh (or frozen) food and avoid the worst of junk. I am not going to make my food choices a religion. After all it may be Alpha to die of cancer, but it is Super Alpha to live forever and enjoy doing so. I suspect that some of your links (“Third World Network?”) may be of the religious/political nature.
But I am getting tired now … my eyelids feel so heavy … my limbs so heavy … maybe I will … zzzzzzzzz
PS I will read any answers you post, just not sure if I have time to respond.
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my littlest baby is finding this clip hilarious.
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I don’t want to get into a long argument over organic food except to say there are probably some benefits but overall it is over hyped and over priced.
Here is the point that no one here seems intelligent enough to get:
The real cost is in the poisoning of our environment; i.e. where we eat, sleep, and breath. That long list of cancer causing chemicals is getting longer, not shorter. Do you breath or eat? Do you even know the REAL cost? Our bodies are not designed for those substances.
Those substances cause extreme imbalance which our brilliant bodies then try mightily to adjust and adapt to, but bottom line; our bodies cannot sustain the balancing act without disease being the effect.
I feel like I’m teaching a kindergarten class here. Such is the incredible hypnotic trance that 99% of people live under. THIS IS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE, but it may as well be given how completely lulled into submission the masses are. Do I expect the whole world to go organic in my lifetime? Of course not. I can only try, for my own good reasons because not everything is even available organic, but I do get a warm fuzzy feeling in my tummy when I eat organic knowing it has many more health producing benefits for me personally and the planet in general.
Now does that sound like something a big scary spider would say? Give me a break! You’ve been hyped into thinking anyone who “rocks the boat” is an adversary and further I am NOT political or religious in the traditional sense. I don’t vote, follow politics or watch PBS. So sorry the little box doesn’t fit. Try again…LOL
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I didn’t mean to scare you with my come hither remark. I thought we were bantering. My mistake. 🙂
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Sara I
Geez Sara. The “spider” comment was a joke. [Actually I think it was the lecherous wink 😉 that did it for me :). <- non lecherous wink] Rocking the boat is OK, I mean this is the place where “pretty lies perish.”
Come on I was not attacking you. Deep breaths now…. innnnnnnn … ouuuuut … innnnnnn ouuut. And that last bit was also a joke ok. 🙂 🙂 🙂 😆 Really!
I did not say you were political, religious or even nutty, just that some of the organic advocates are. Yes, I understand that “big food” would prefer us to eat industrial grade food because of their religion (profit). But there are a lot of Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine types that also have an agenda.
Pretty much everything we enjoy in the modern world is the end result of an industrial (and dirty) process. Convenient packaged food is one of those things.
I will study your links when I have more time. Maybe I will be a convert and promote organic as Alpha. Actually I like the sound of Organo-Alpha (“Hey babe! Want some organic meat?”).
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Sara I
Missed your comment before posting mine. Hey I am a guy, I don’t listen.
We were. So was I. Don’t stop.
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Pretty much everything we enjoy in the modern world is the end result of an industrial (and dirty) process. Convenient packaged food is one of those things.
But what exactly do we ‘have’? Scientific advancement, the use of gasoline, and other factors can be used without pushing everything to the absolute limit of safety and past in order to get the last dollar out.
We can have milk, and milk made on mechanized farms, without ‘pasteurizing’ it. See? Last step is not necessary for all prior steps. Many farmers do so only because the law makes them do it.
And what is ‘pasteurized’ milk worth? It can sit on a shelf longer. This lowers ‘wastage’ and allows the last dollar to be extracted. But who cares how long it sits on a shelf? Milk that spoils slightly faster but is much more nutritious(and required the same effort to produce!) is just plain better if you remember to drink it before it spoils.
Why is the milkman gone? Because ‘we’ ‘discovered’ that you could increase shelf life by destroying quality! Of course, like all great things, this ‘discovery’ had to be forced on the population by the government, and also started in the heart of ‘honesty’ in America, Chicago!
Oddly enough, mechanical tractors didn’t have to be mandated by the government in order to replace oxen and plows. Why is that?
From the mouths of the sneaks themselves:
http://www.chemheritage.org/pubs/magazine/feature_pasteurization_p3.html
All the fuss, as well as expense, did not go unnoticed by critics, who argued that the city had neither the money nor the infrastructure to institute mandatory pasteurization, as Straus and Jacobi advocated. Many complained that pasteurized milk featured an unpleasant “cooked” taste and grumbled over the diminishment of its “nutritive qualities.” Others contended that the real menace was lurking in dirty farms and distribution chains and urged a wholesale tightening of inspections. Still others accused the press of grossly exaggerating how often diphtheria and tuberculosis were really introduced into a household by the milkman.
Nonetheless, the pasteurization movement was gaining steam. In 1909 Chicago became the first American city to enforce a compulsory milk pasteurization law, despite strong opposition at the state level. After vehement back-and-forth editorials, prolonged political maneuvering, and a typhoid epidemic blamed on raw milk, New York’s commissioner of health followed suit in 1914 with the enforcement of a previously adopted ordinance.
New York’s commissioner of health followed suit in 1914 with the enforcement of a previously adopted ordinance.
Seven years later the city’s infant mortality rate dropped to 71 deaths per every 1,000 births—less than one-third of the rate in 1891. Arguably, other improvements in health and hygiene also played a role in the decline. But the modernization of milk production ultimately settled the matter in favor of pasteurization.
Arguably, if one isn’t lying, one would date the improvements from the rate in 1914 to the rate in 1921, instead of going back to 1891. Arguably, the deliberate inclusion of infant mortality declines in years for which pasteurization was not even being performed is a gross and deliberate lie. I use arguable, because the liars seem to think it’s clever to say that before obvious truths as if it is a refutation of those same obvious truths.
Despite their differences, both sides largely agree that pasteurization is no substitute for clean, high-quality milk and that pooling milk from many sources requires heating to thwart the higher risk of contamination.
Because it would be slightly more complicated to bottle the milk batch by batch, thus preventing widespread contamination. Also, enforcing health standards is SOOOOO not the Chicago way!
Of course, it is possible the slightly increased mechanical complexity required to bottle milk batch by batch is beyond the ability of a Chicago run factory to perform.
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And that last bit was also a joke ok. Really!
Okie Doke, sugar baby. I (used to) have trust issues.
I did not say you were political, religious or even nutty, just that some of the organic advocates are.
And I know a few who are off the deep end. Not only that, they smell funny. If it makes me more human, I love coffee drinks and (organic) wine and an occasional Michelob Lager and not the hideous Ultra version.
I must admit to be a nutty bitch at least by most standards of normalcy, which as you know I don’t care to be a part of.
Pretty much everything we enjoy in the modern world is the end result of an industrial (and dirty) process. Convenient packaged food is one of those things.
Most of it is fairly toxic and cannot be completely avoided. To even try would drive one insane so I detox everyday and don’t worry it about it. Worrying is also toxic as Gunslinger pointed out. I do what I need to in order to NOT worry and I don’t. I’m just saying that ignorance is not bliss. They key word being IGNORE-ance.
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At the risk of getting a big head or jinxing myself, I get really tired of people my age and younger (some MUCH younger) complaining about getting old and how their ailments, aches, and pains, and lack of energy are to be expected as they age. This is so not true. It’s just more mind numbing idiocy advocated by those who are asleep in order to justify their pitiful physical condition to those who are also asleep and would prefer to stay that way which pretty much includes everyone. Yes, I know I’m getting tiresome…
Next subject anyone???
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Sara I
I am very healthy and in very good shape both in absolute terms and relative to my age. So I am with you on the health thing. For convenience I just cut out stuff (HFCS, trans-fats, MSG) rather than make an effort to seek out stuff. I have made occasional trips to the local farmers market, but mostly just buy at the local supermarket. It is more about weighing costs and benefits than ideology (although I occasionally enjoy playing up the pave-the-planet bit, just for fun.)
It is the banter that makes Internet
argumentsdiscussions bearable.You could also try Green and Black’s organic chocolate. I mean the real stuff (75 or 85 percent), not the insipid candy (30 percent or less). It is better than coffee as a wake-up (and it has antioxidants and stuff).
But that is why we like you. Nuts are part of a healthy diet remember.
See above… 🙂
Comment_Milk
Interesting comments of the pasteurization. Similar to the arguments for and against irradiation.
I had milk straight from the cow. It was very rich and did not kill me. The fact that it was still warm made it a bit yucky… 🙂
I believe there are farms where you can get unpasteurized milk. To get around “safety” laws, I think you become a member, rent the cow, or something.
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