May 4, 2009 by CH
“Woe unto the Race if ever these lovable creatures [women] should break loose from mastership, and become the rulers or equals of Man.”
Hint: It was written in 1890.
Answer: Ragnar Redbeard (pseudonym), from his book Might is Right.
If only he were alive today to see how right he was.
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Anton LaVey…is that supposed to be a positive thing?
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scratch that, Jack London
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a man way ahead of his time?
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Ragnar Redbeard!
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Eagerly awaiting Feministx’s comments….
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Nice quote, but the book seems like second rate Nietzsche. Now, time for some Schopenhauer. Yeah, baby!
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“Anton LaVey”
He was quoting someone.
I don’t know who wrote it. But cute, Roissy. Real cute.
Let’s keep our head in the clouds and pretend that a world where men are accepted as the masters of women is a happy one where women find the gentle dominion they so desperately pine for in the deepest recesses of their psyches. Let women have only their divine right to love and be loved and all else will fall into place.
Except not. My Asian best friend’s grandfather used to get drunk and burn his wife’s clothing and then beat her if she did not hurry up to pick out the gold buttons. Power is corruption, people. Sorry. Have you noticed the violent crime rate between genders? Have you noticed the very high percentage of men willing to shoot others in a war? Men happen to have this innate tendency to become violent, insensitive and callously domineering. Leaving mastery unto them does not make for an idyllic world of mildly chauvanistic chivalry.
Here is the world where women have not yet been wrested from the mastery of men:
That’s the only way it can look.
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Fem
Whatever. But if women really wanted non dominant men they would go to great lengths to fuck that sort of man. Since, on this planet, (earth) that rarely happens, you are revealing yourself to be just another female throwing out a shit-test. As in, let me see what they will fall for.
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“Ragnar the Red”, in a book titled Might is Right in 1896
later paraphrased by Anton LeVey through the 1970’s
Cut and pasted from google:
“Might Is Right is a book whose survival has nothing to do with popular acclaim or academic attention. It has, nonetheless, been read and discussed by a continuing circle of individuals for some 85 years, necessitating several editions. Originally published in 1896, it was reprinted as late as 1972. Erratic, inspiring, infuriating, a mixture of individualistic sense and collective nonsense, it outlines a case for “social darwinism” that is one of the frankest and most powerful I have ever seen.
There is no certainty as to who the author, Ragnar Redbeard, was. The most likely candidate is a man named Arthur Desmond who was red-bearded, red-haired and whose poetry was very similar to that written by Redbeard. Born in New Zealand of an Irish father and an English mother, his actual date of birth is unknown, 1842 and 1859 being two of the years given. While in New Zealand, Desmond stood as a radical candidate for parliament, organized trade unions, championed the ideas of Henry George, supported the Maori leader Te Kooti, and edited a radical paper called The Tribune.
Anyway, that’s what 5 minutes of half assed research turned up.
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Who Wrote This?
A fictional pirate.
Hint: everyone cheats and uses Google, and pretends not to.
http://bit.ly/vOcYa
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Might_is_Right
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wolverine?
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The quote on offer is a 2nd or 3rd rate bit of prose.. F. Nietzsche may have been a brain-damaged freak but the boy could still write – tight, clean circles around his many would be imitators.
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That’s the only way it can look.
Moderate patriarchy, such as we long had in the West, is not the same as they tyrannical type practiced in the East. The Germanic tribes from which most Europeans are descended always had a high respect for their women. It’s just gotten a little out of hand lately.
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Oh please.
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The optimal balance between male and female power was in the US, during the 1980s. That is as close to ‘fair’ as any society ever got.
In the old days, many women had it bad.
Today, men are second class citizens in the West. The status of men today is about the same as blacks held in the early 1960s in the late stages of Jim Crow. In a decade, men in the West will have regressed to treatment blacks got in the 1920s, where the divorce court will be used for effective public ‘lynchings’ just to make examples of men. So black men have really had it bad, first for being black, and now for being male.
The 1980s was the equilibrium point – the Golden Age. Sure, divorce laws were already the way they now are, but women had sufficient values at the time to restrain themselves. So, that was the optimal society.
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Jack London was a socialist.
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For your reading pleasure,a website with many a wise observation on our wonderful female “friends.”Goest there and increase in wisdom.
http://www.menstribune.com/home.htm
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Who Wrote This?
A nervous Beta.
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Funny what Feminist thinks.
My two cents?
The one who wrote that was one of those “dead white males”. In fact, it was so common sense that maybe it was my great great parent who wrote it.
The thing is that European Civilisation was built over a balanced relation between the sexes. European Tradition has nothing to do with the Asian tradition.
I think the current country that most resembles that European Tradition of treating women in the society must be a Poland or something.
Girls had to have parents, and then, find good husbands.
Nowadays, we atract Asians and others to come here to whore it up and “have a say” on what is optimal or not, so the tendence now is for “our” girls to whore it up even further, as this blog so sucintly exposes.
Optimal was the 50s in the United States. There shall not be one doubt about it.
P.S. – This was fucking common sense.
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Word
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It’s probably Oscar Wilde on chicks.
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“Nobody will ever win the Battle of the Sexes. There’s just too much fraternizing with the enemy.”
-Henry Kissinger
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“Who wrote this?”
A fucking prophet.
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LOL.
So, Roissy post a quote and ask who wrote it, and all you bitches(supposedly alpha males) then run around trying to either find it or answer it correctly like a good school boy.
How beta is that?
Essentially, roissy just tasked you. And you, in turn, eagerly just qualify yourself by trying to answer it correctly–to please your master/impress the rest of the blog readers.
You are a bitch.
Like i always say: it is in the subtle things that differentiate men who are true alphas from wannabes. Not in the obvious chest beating, shouting, yelling and transparent dick measurement.
Here is my answer to roissy’s questions: Why dont you be the nice, smart good boy and tell me?(this is how a chick will shit test you in the field…she will probably followed it with…”good…perhaps you can do my homework for me sometime, smartypants.”. ) And that is a neg.
Learn people, learn.
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My mentor and fellow connoisseur Pook from the blog Pook’s Mill. (Google it) 1890… looks like my great grandfather wrote it.
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What was the proportion of men ruled by their wives during the old days? By “ruled” I mean sacrificing visits to his parents in order to visit hers, sacrifice time with his friends in order to be with hers or with her doing sthg she likes, sacrificing leisure for work in order to increase her leisure, etc?
Most probably the side-effect would be a faithful wife, since shaming and social condemnation were stronger.
I would bet that in Catholic countries something around 80% of men would be ruled by their wives, in the terms above. Cuckoldry would be less prevalent than today, but still more widespread among women than maong men. I just read an “alpha” book , Tai Pan, from james Clavell . And the english remarked that the portuguese, in the 1840s, were, as all catholics, ruled by their wives. That’s Chin Wei Zu conclusion in his book about Matriarchy also, that the Catholic Church existed to enforce female domination of men, and that Catholic countries were the ones in which the authority of women over men was stronger.
FeministX, as all women, focuses on the very small pool of bad boys among men, the ones who beat women regularly, ignores the 95% of non-bad-boys, and generalyzes bad-boyism as widespread among men.
Women’s opinions should be ignored on anything but the color of the painting in the wall or how much saffron you should put in the rice.
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Just playing… the quote is from Ragnar Redbeard in his book on social Darwinism. “Right of Might” is the essay or book title.
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The King:
You used to be on sosuave?
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Nietzsche says something like that in Beyond Good and Evil.
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Nietzsche’s too easy.
Let’s try someone totally unexpected…
Mark Twain?
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My first guess was Darwin. He’s a godfigure to the left, despite many inconvenient things he’s written.
But I’m fuzzy on what part of the 19th century he lived in, and don’t feel like looking him up right now.
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Also, Nietzsche had his final mental breakdown in January of 1889, so he’s out of the running.
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May 5, 2009 at 7:43 am Darth Maul
Yes, yes, we’re all bitches and betas and worse and your a Sith Lord or something. God forbid someone wants to see who wrote that so that maybe they could read more of that person’s writing! Who the fuck would want to do that?
And how’s that “thriving on conflict” thing going for you? You need to put down the Warcraft and the breakfast burrito, stop watching prequels and get out of your parent’s basement. No more slap fights with “lurker” either.
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“Who wrote this?”
I dunno who wrote it in 1890, but Cato the Elder wrote something very similar somewhere around 180 BC
There’s nothing new under the sun.
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Neither Dracula, nor Dorian Grey, but the inspiration for them both. In some circles he called himself Methusela, to entrance the innocent. He died at the young age of 147 in 1911, remembered only by those that found his romance greater than his sin.
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Agree with Thursday – the quote is clunky and bad. Enjoyed the Mencken and Kissinger ones much better. Wit is not intelligence! I bet those quotes, only slightly modified, would be excellent lines to use in pickup, because they’re funny and a good starting point for a conversation about relationships, etc.
Thursday, you already posted the link to the Schopenhauer essay the other week. It’s good but seems a little too rooted in mid-19th-c Germany to be completely relevant today. In other words, some universal observations and a lot of local ones. The call for polygamy a little shocking for the time. Schopenhauer’s greatest gift to posterity, however, was his influence on Wagner.
I see FemX’s point and agree that unfettered patriachy has the potential for abuse – but only in non-Western societies. Stonings, revenge killings, child prostitution, selling children, dowries and arranged marriages – these all take place in Eastern socities which are centuries behind the west in social evolution. It’s also a stereotype that these things are the norm – they’re not, not by a long shot. But comparisons between that kind of thing and the western legal/social framework are inappropriate.
Raises another question – female attraction to dominant males and game as discussed here – how would it translate to some of these pre-modern societies like Pakistan, Bangladesh, rural India, Arab world, etc. Not the most educated (Westernized) elements, which are the majority in some places, but the poorest rural ones. Is a female going to be attracted to the dominant male in the village if it’s pretty clear that he’ll beat her every day with impunity? Is attraction so universal that it can be perverse like that? Roissy would say yes (see: posts on Rihanna) but I’m not so sure. Maybe the more educated men of these villages, betas by local standards, are the catches, because they treat women much better. Some possible evidence for this: are women in those parts of the world intersted in foreign men? Do they do whatever they can to emigrate?
Haven’t thought this completely through, of course, but thoughts welcome.
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“Essentially, roissy just tasked you. And you, in turn, eagerly just qualify yourself by trying to answer it correctly–to please your master/impress the rest of the blog readers.”
It’s okay, it’s the internet, and no one’s status in the eyes of a woman he’s trying to date (which is the whole point) was lowered in doing it. So not a big deal like your hysterical post made it out to be.
P.S. Naming yourself after a Star Wars character is beta.
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RKO – verbal jousting helps if you defeat your opponent. You can win the hill. You can win the battle.
But how to win the war?
That takes strategy. A big picture – which requres re-evaluating your strategies; introspection.
Winning games against someone is petty and can be seen as petty. Winning the hill, and losing the war.
Panache, my friend.
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“P.S. Naming yourself after a Star Wars character is beta.”
Omega, actually. Star Wars and Star Trek fandom is an Omega trait.
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Feministrix:
“Let’s keep our head in the clouds and pretend that a world where men are accepted as the masters of women is a happy one where women find the gentle dominion they so desperately pine for in the deepest recesses of their psyches.”
—–They do. Its when become feminized due to success—and lesbians like you get their meaty little paws into women’s brains and confuse them with your illiogical philosiphies (i.e. “feminism”) that we get the shit the world has become today.
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Lurker and X, in your mutual hunger, I will arbitrate.
X requires a special kind of shoe, that denotes social dominance. She’d prefer if a man paid for it.
Lurker requires a special kind of arm candy. He’d prefer whatever the fuck he prefers, but in the end, all he wants is arm candy that humms like a 2 cylinder hill climber. Or an 8 cylinder kitten. Whatever the personality, it’s an engine to make the magazines.
So? What’s your problem? Searching for a soul mate?
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thumps like a two cylinder hill climber. or humms like a ten cylinder kitten.
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This is kind of an off topic question…
One of my friends has a pretty alpha personality, it’s why I was attracted to him. Anyway, the other day he told me that he liked to be dominated during sex, which kind of threw me off because I would have never expected that.
Can a guy be alpha even if he doesn’t necessarily take that role during sex?
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—In some circles he called himself Methusela, to entrance the innocent. He died at the young age of 147 in 1911, remembered only by those that found his romance greater than his sin.—
I dunno, that guy sounds like the immortal St. Germaine who faked his death (again) so that he could get some time for himself. Probably just another one of his personalities.
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“Winning the hill, and losing the war.”
Thank you Sun Tzu, I look forward to more advice on responding to blog comments.
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KKF – I don’t dare burst your precious gullible bubble. You’re happy just the way you are. That’s precious. Unless you can’t fuck like a demon. Otherwise, I can treat you like a man and call you names. No chivalry for those who can’t fuck like a demon.
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Is a female going to be attracted to the dominant male in the village if it’s pretty clear that he’ll beat her every day with impunity? Is attraction so universal that it can be perverse like that?
There are no “nice” beta males in the village who will not beat you. If the choice is between the dominant male who will beat you daily and the lesser male who will beat you daily, which do you choose? Obviously the dominant male. A certain level of beatings is no doubt regarded as a fact of life and no big deal.
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Jessus office girls in leggings.
RKO. What was that – sarcasm? Never mind. I was not entertained. I did not receive a blow job. No second date.
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“KKF – I don’t dare burst your precious gullible bubble. You’re happy just the way you are. That’s precious. Unless you can’t fuck like a demon. Otherwise, I can treat you like a man and call you names. No chivalry for those who can’t fuck like a demon.”
You’ll have to explain that comment to me.
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The Tarl.
Tell us about your experiences.
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Rerun, and RKO,
(1)In game: a cigar is not just a cigar.
Did i know Roissy’s quote above? No. Did i look it up? yes. Did i come back like an eager school boy to post the answer to please roissy or impress others? ABSOLUTELY FUCKING NOT. That is the subtle distinctions between true alphas and wannabes. You either get this or you dont. It is always in the little things.
(2)Most things in life is game. It is practically fucking everywhere. Social dynamics is everything. Blog is a social medium. ergo internet game. If you think social dynamics/game is not happening on this blog, you are a fucking moron. There are just too many examples. Welmer vs Dougjn jealousy fights over the internet women on this blog is the latest example.
(3)the name darth maul(a stupid star war name) is as irrelevant as the name “X”, as inconsequential as the name “roissy”(a girly sounding name), or matador(pretentious spanish alpha) or mystery(self-important enigma) or style(gayish sounding). In case you two dont get it, internet avatar names are irrelevant, dont get too worked up over them. Have a lollipop.
(4)Yes, i thrive on conflict. My krav maga training is going just fine.
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KKF – I made a fictional story. I don’t know if you considered it as such, or took it at face value. I was enlivening the metaphors of past literature, with Irish bullshit.
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“KKF – I made a fictional story. I don’t know if you considered it as such, or took it at face value. I was enlivening the metaphors of past literature, with Irish bullshit.”
Fair enough.
Some more Irish bullshit:
http://www.mysteryanimalsofireland.com/
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I have always like Cato the Elders viewpoint on the issue.
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In popular culture, an eight sided dice is code for a dork.
A dork is code for a socially inept young male.
Meaning, young males who group socially with other young males, who know what an eight sided dice is… Well – no one needs to tell you – its the zeitgeist (idea of the age?)
KKF. Don’t become a player. Find your inner geek, and in your core you will find your magma.
Or not.
Me – I’m not outside of any system. Unless you consider considering your own motivations as outside of rule/role legal logic.
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Tell us about your experiences.
When and where I grew up, husbands smacked their wives around, and parents could – and did – thrash their kids at home or even in public without exciting any particular comment. Teachers could – and did – thrash their students for disrespect, tardiness, or academic non-performance, without exciting any particular comment. If you so much as give a kid a slap on the bottom in America today, you will provoke the intervention of the police and child protective services. As for teachers beating students in America today, forget it, the teacher would be fired and sued.
Amazing as it may seem to you, in my younger day in another country, beatings were not regarded as that much of a big deal, and people would have regarded the American attitudes of 2009 as really weird.
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Tarl, you tease.
We are among men. Specifics.
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XSPLAT, is this type of internet personality.
http://www.flamewarriors.com/warriorshtm/profundusmaximus.htm
Writing in semi-cryptic, stream-of-consciousness staccato.
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Everyone should look at this:
Its mystery explaining how he was like in his beginning stages of the pick up.
It starts at 1:52
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Speaking of changing the game:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8033218.stm
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“Amazing as it may seem to you, in my younger day in another country, beatings were not regarded as that much of a big deal, and people would have regarded the American attitudes of 2009 as really weird.”
Tarl, not that long ago in America, smacking kids and dishing out a thrashing was no big deal either. My parents didn’t spare the rod with my brother and I. You need a firm hand, especially when raising males.
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Who the fuck cares who wrote it?
He (or she) is right.
I don’t think it’s accidental that the women that were most happy with me were the ones where my hyper-dominance resulted in them almost being sex-slaves.
Women need, unfortunately, a good firm hand — I like to refer to it as constrained freedom.
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Maurice:
Schopenhauer’s greatest gift to posterity was . . . Schopenhauer. And his influence on Nietzsche. And Wagner. I don’t have my heavily underlined copies of his books with me, but just for these aphrorims —
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/a/arthur_schopenhauer.html
he should be revered — he is the clearest-eyed thinker who ever lived, he could turn out epigrams and for my money, his metaphysics are the only ones that make sense. Penguin has a great collections of essays and aphorsism if you don’t want to take the plunge into The World as Will and Idea.
kim:
I don’t have any direct experiences with alpha males in bed. Praise Jesus. I was, however, acquainted with a high class hooker for a while who served the business and political elite. (Credible, not bs)
She told me a lot of those men dug being on the receiving end of some heavy B&D. My theory — it’s about losing control when you have to be in control all the time.
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Your theory. And you invented the word plagiarism?
Test out your theories, before you mouth them.
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Who you have read has no bearing on who you are. You can assimilate the best of writers, artists, and producers. That does not make you a writer, or artist, or producer.
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Mr Primitive –
Fair enough, point taken. I also recall that his worldview was similar to some Buddhist ideas in that it identifies desire/will as the origin of suffering and espouses a similar kind of renunciation. But I confess I’m not as nearly well-read in philosophy as I’d like to be. I do know, as a musician, that he was a primary influence on Wagner, who in turn was idolized (for a while) by Nietzsche, before they broke. Nietzsche’s first major work was in fact a paean to Wagner’s ideas of music theater.
I also think that’s right about powerful men and submission – the subconsious seeks out the opposite of where the conscious mind lives. It’s kind of odd that despite the historical taboos, the imagery of S&M (leather, whips, ropes, etc.) are widely recognized (e.g., Condi Rice’s “dominatrix boots” in Germany, cartoons, late-night jokes, etc.). I guess it’s become more mainstream.
Did anyone read about that empty armory in the SoMA district of San Francisco that was recently bought by a BDSM company/website and is now used as a big studio for BDSM porn and lifestyle…? Kind of freaked out the neighbors, who were mainly Hispanic immigrants. Don’t remember where I read about it though.
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I thought it was probably something along those lines too. It makes sense. I was curious to see what others thought though.
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who wrote this quote?
from 1890 you say?
A: Madonna
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Submissive males like to believe in the rationalization that since they are always in power, they want a woman to be in power in bed. But they are just lying to themselves to save face.
It’s rare for a person’s sexual personality to have no connection to their external personality, but it is difficult to read the signs. Successful alpha males of high IQ often have strange fetishes. They may be cross dressers or bisexual or want to serve a Dominatrix. Submissive males usually are submissive in some way in their external lives and it may be part of what makes them successful. Dominant men like being in control. Submissive men like to see their clients pleased. Both lead to success.
I have met a number of submissive males that have alpha male jockish personalities (I meet them at parties where I meet bisexual submissive girls), but those guys are the ones that like a girl to nail them with a strap on.
One male sub told me that he experienced his attraction to dominant women as a misplaced reaction. He experienced anxiety when seeing a powerful woman and this crossed over into the rush he felt when he saw an attractive woman, so in his mind there is a connection between an attractive woman and sexual dominance. If you think about it, anxiety, infatuation and psychological arousal sort of do feel similar.
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“FeministX, as all women, focuses on the very small pool of bad boys among men, the ones who beat women regularly, ignores the 95% of non-bad-boys, and generalyzes bad-boyism as widespread among men.”
This is unrealistic. There are a number of societies where most men beat women. It is not the rare bad boy. Western society has not been one of those for a long time, but I highly doubt there is some innate restraint in white men that is preventing them from showing cruelty towards women.
The 1950s were only perfect on a few TV shows which did not reflect reality- the themes of those shows were just inherited from the jingoistic propaganda filed WWII era radio series.
The feminist movement happened for a reason. If you somehow got society to go back to the 1950s, it would just happen again unless you made laws against women being feminist. It just so happens that women want reproductive control, the ability to leave unhappy marriages, the ability to be taken seriously when they pursue challenging careers, the existence of domestic violence shelters etc.
Manhating lesbian feminists like me are an extreme rarity. Feminism wouldn’t get anywhere in a democratic world if it only represented the interests of my ilk. Feminism has gained influence because it really does appeal to masses of regular straight women.
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Well, just to clarify, I am not 100% lesbian. I am bisexual.
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“And the english remarked that the portuguese, in the 1840s, were, as all catholics, ruled by their wives. That’s Chin Wei Zu conclusion in his book about Matriarchy also, that the Catholic Church existed to enforce female domination of men, and that Catholic countries were the ones in which the authority of women over men was stronger.”
Catholicism may glorify women. But it is damned ridiculous to say that Catholics, especially Portuguese, Spaniards and Italians were more “ruled” by their wives than Northern Europeans.
It’s a different way to deal with women, different culture. This Latin peoples will tend to be more “Beta” in terms of trying to *please* their women and in terms of putting them into a pedestal.
However the society would be way more macho / alpha than in Northern Nations.
And you are a way too ignorant if you believe that men were (more) ruled by their women in the older days. Too ignorant.
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A “manhating lesbian feminist” who is bisexual? LOL
Bisexual = confused = mind isn’t made up
Your confusion is readily apparent in most of what you post. So it’s no surprise you’re bisexual.
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feministx-
So you say. I continue to not believe you.
Sure I believed you at first. Then you talked quite openly about your sexual experiences with men, and in more detail as genuinely curious people including PA and myself asked you more questions. You talked about the experience of penetration being alright but not really pleasurable either. It was clearly something you could tolerate since you’ve done it for both exploratory reasons several times, and for ulterior reasons a number of times. However kissing by men, caressing or intimate touching by men and so on was something that not only didn’t turn you on, it revolted you. You turned your head and shrank away. You made no distinction between men. You felt similarly about sex with a boyfriend of many months duration, who you cared for a lot as a person.
You do however have huge incentive to think of and project yourself as bi sexual, given that you are actively looking to get married to a man and raise children together with a genetically suitably gifted man. You think children benefit greatly from having their fathers in their home and life.
As well you’re picking up of hot bi curious girls is greatly enhanced by being bi sexual though perhaps more same sex oriented than they are “yet”, rather than being exclusively lesbian in what turns you on.
You’re only bi in what you’ll tolerate or grin and bear. Not in what turns you on.
Until you demonstrate convincingly to the contrary. (Since you’ve demonstrated so much that leads to that conclusion.)
Women you present such as you but really feel such as you have caused untold heartache (and financial cost) to untold numbers of men. Further your deception is aided in so many ways by our contemporary culture. I’ll do my little bit to be a corrective, at least here.
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Wow Schoolboy, nice to know that Mistery was in a worst situation than my own.
Nowadays I pratically only have contact with girls at Friday night, when one goes to bars or clubs and tries to pick them up or they open me.
My group of friends is all fucked up now and I don’t see one of the girls for what, three weeks…
Also, “my” ten is relatively distant and says this month she’s “busy” and thus our kind of friendly relationship continues to exist only through the internet.
Wow… today I went to a new low. I went with my best friends to the High School (we should already got out of there to college) and spend the time seeing how low qualty the girls there are, and how everybody is happy but us and stuff, really depressing.
Worst than that, a fattie (a 5 or 4 but if she lost weight, she could be a 9 or an 8) just refused to be aproached by me in a bar. Damn!
I know who she’s now, she will pay… I’ll game her hard…
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Now to chear up, feminist bashing:
Feminist, there’s not about white men that’s so especial but its capacity to create Civilisation. Go see the laws and moral codes and that boring stuff that probabily no one thought you… go see what the “Western” or “European” Civilisation is about. Go see what it stands for since… fuck, Roman times… See what is and has traditionally been accepted in Europe as *good* and then compare it to India, Islam, East Asia, or even Africa and the Indians.
Again darling, this was common sense some decades ago. It is so self evident that… but of course, you will shit all over me and not get it, will you not?
The One World Humanist crowd will never get it. I pitty them in some ways.
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Roissy–
George Bernhard Shaw comes to mind.
It would take someone with a lot of imagination and at least a partly futurist, “big changes are coming or possible”, frame of mind. Have to be a good writer too.
However you’d probably only post it if it were surprising or illuminating. I’m not sure Shaw fulfills that requirement.
So no that’s not my final answer.
Emma Goldman or V.I. Lenin. (Or if not her or him another leading pro-Communist).
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Great Darth. Show us all exactly how superb your dominant alpha game is…
…on a guy.
Fag.
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This is feminists favorite canard…to say that the social upheaval that has occurred from the feminist-driven sexual revolution is justified because the 50’s were absolute hell, and the popular culture presented a false portrait of the perfect society.
Utter bullshit.
No one has ever claimed that the 50’s were a utopia. Only that by every measurable statistic, there was far less social chaos, rampant crime and lawlessness back in the day when divorce was rare, single mother households were rare, and most men worked and most women stayed home to raise the children.
Who says the 50’s were perfect? It was certainly a lot more civilized than the current chaos that the feminists have unleashed.
So yes, femx, there were certainly abusive men and unhappy women in marriage, back in the 50’s. The difference was that women who were unhappy, didn’t have the incentives to use the system to unjustly rope a man into indentured servitude and deprive him from being a part of his children’s lives. No, she either sucked it up and bore it for the sake of her children, or she actually tried to improve her marriage.
Marriage never used to be about “happiness.” It was about the institution best suited for raising the next generation. Better that a small minority of women suffered beatings at the hands of violent spouses, than the current generation of children being raised in broken households that have resulted in the rise of crime, poverty and the most incarcerated population in the world.
Oh yes…what is the most common denominator amongst the majority of criminals imprisoned for crimes against society? The majority of them come from Fatherless homes.
A state of society that did not exist in the sheer numbers as it does today. So thank you, feminsts, for fucking over society just so you can seek ‘happiness’ and sexual empowerment.
The feminist movement happened for a reason. The powerful elite that wanted to socially engineer this country to promote depopulation and the creation of a society full of useful idiots and sheeple that they could easily control with propaganda, achieved their purposes quite successfully by exploiting the idiocy of gullible women who believed the shibboleths that women are “oppressed and exploited” by men throughout history.
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Queen Victoria?
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Dave from Hawaii–
I strongly agree with your immediately prior post.
As well there’s no question during the fifties more and more women were going to college and were entering the more elite parts of the workforce.
As well attitudes towards blacks (or then Negroes) was evolving. It was no where near as negative in most places and quarters in the North as in the South. The army was desegregated in 1948. That after all and why is how the desegregation movement was supported in the sixties. It was essential to do. It’s just that we shouldn’t have allowed leftist as opposed to liberal ideas to come and predominate in the intellectual elites in it’s wake.
If leftism had never seized the social agenda as it did in the sixties and feminism never taken hold, but rather slower liberal reform continued and accelerated rather than being taken to radical extremes as an ideal (what with affirmative action for both blacks and women, and wave after wave of anti male extremist in the details feminist legislation), we’d be a lot better off.
People who don’t know the details of how Sexual Harassment Law, affirmative action for women, Title IX, Divorce Law, the Violence Against Women Act and so on don’t know what I’m talking about. They all have a core that’s reasonable and how they were sold. They all also have details and fine print that make them horribly one sided and utterly unfair in practice, particularly when the prosecutor is under feminist pressure. Anglo Saxon evolved fairness is out the window with them all. Their tilt towards women in issues of proof and innocence before guild, and consequences out of all proportion, is awful.
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feministxy
Keep telling yourself that. At least one person might believe it.
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Default user:
I just noticed the shirt in your gravatar is the one mystery uses alot.
Peacocking is God.
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schoolboy
I did not think of that when creating it. Maybe I should add some eye shadow and nail polish…
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Default user:
No.
A fuzzy 2 foot long cat in the hat hat and aviator googles would be right tho.
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Some wacky feminazi: “If you think about it, anxiety, infatuation and psychological arousal sort of do feel similar.”
Um, no, actually, they don’t. Solipsism is a sin.
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Who said this?
“Well maybe in your own mind, amigo. But in the real world, I don’t answer to you. Not today, not tomorrow, not even on Cinco de Mayo!”
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Well, read some of the insults…unfortunately, Roissy wont allow me to smack all your heads together. He deletes my posts.
Enjoy it while your big brother(roissy) protects you.
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Mr_Primative–
I have no doubt that that is sometimes true. It’s also a fashionable meme these days and has been for a couple of decades. It could certainly be exaggerated. I don’t think it’s nearly as common as some believe but it does exist.
E.g. it’s the kind of thing one higher end call girl might say she’s experienced when she hasn’t because she has a friend who has, and she thinks it makes her sound interesting and having lots of edgie experience of the world. Her friend might have actually had those experiences herself or she in turn might have a friend… So too people having actual hooker friends who have told them this versus having a friend who has, and so on.
However it certainly exists. I’m also sure it’s multiplied in the retelling. How much I don’t know. That’s why studies are done. Which also have honesty in reporting problems cutting different ways on different things.
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he name darth maul(a stupid star war name) is as irrelevant as the name “X”, as inconsequential as the name “roissy”(a girly sounding name), or matador(pretentious spanish alpha) or mystery(self-important enigma) or style(gayish sounding). In case you two dont get it, internet avatar names are irrelevant, dont get too worked up over them. Have a lollipop.
you’re right, but I would like to point out that roissy is the chateau in the story of o where the men take their slaves. So it actually fits really well. 😉
conscious and subconscious are opposites: yup. why else would I have dominant fantasies? 😉 One of the few nice things about being an omega is not having to kiss some woman’s ass (as you would if you were a beta).
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to DAVE FROM HAWAII,
I just read your retort.
Dude, what do you think a turbo-charge salesman is doing in front of a bunch of new recruits?(e.g. boiler room scene) What do you think a skilled seducer does when he walks into a set of mixed women and men(hint: he has to take over the group, both the men and women).
What do you think mystery meant by “demonstrating that you are leaders of men”. Hell, what do you think mystery is doing inside one of his own seminars?
ANSWER: Establishing alpha dominance over men.
Life is game. I already posted about this today in response to “KKF” and “Rerun” before, but roissy deleted it.
Hell, roissy game people here too–on his blog. He games everyone, man or woman. With the men, it is to establish alpha dominance, with the women, well, to fuck some of them, of course. You game people at your workplace to be at an advantage for whatever your goals are.
A waiter/waitress can run game to get better tips. A politician run game to get votes, or his ambition.
Yes, mr. dave from hawaii, people do run game to establish alpha dominance over men.
Seriously, the people on this blog are just too stupid for words, sometimes. I dont beleive i am typing these little explanations out. They dont get the subtlety of game. They can shout and scream about it….but for them to recognizes the hues and subtle colours of game in real-time, most are lacking in this department and get defensive.
Lance, from the other thread, was complaining about a video serving as an advertising to women about fake engagement rings. Seriously, the video is directed to women, and it is about fake engagement ring…so, what is your intelligent complaint here? You want it to be about sports? It is a women’s video for chrissake! What the fuck do you expect? something different?
Who the fuck are these stupid people, roissy?
p.s. the funniest part, lance, is when you started telling me to prove that i know stuff about women. C’mon, as if i give a quantum fuck enough to qualify myself to you.
*naturally, roissy will probably delete this post, like the rest of my posts dealing with imbeciles on this list…dave, that is an example of alpha dominance serving as a protector of his pack(his blog)* Learn subtlety.
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feministx said:
If you think about it, anxiety, infatuation and psychological arousal sort of do feel similar.
Lupo replied:
Um, no, actually, they don’t. Solipsism is a sin.
Have you ever even read one of Mystery’s books, Lupo? Because Mystery’s position on emotions and non-reaction are quite clear. Like much of the very true parts of ‘Game’, you can pick up this stuff on the first time through, because you already mostly ‘knew’ it and the book just brings things into focus, no memorization required.
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feministx.blogspot.com
Submissive males like to believe in the rationalization that since they are always in power, they want a woman to be in power in bed. But they are just lying to themselves to save face.
It’s rare for a person’s sexual personality to have no connection to their external personality, but it is difficult to read the signs. Successful alpha males of high IQ often have strange fetishes. They may be cross dressers or bisexual or want to serve a Dominatrix. Submissive males usually are submissive in some way in their external lives and it may be part of what makes them successful. Dominant men like being in control. Submissive men like to see their clients pleased. Both lead to success.
I have met a number of submissive males that have alpha male jockish personalities (I meet them at parties where I meet bisexual submissive girls), but those guys are the ones that like a girl to nail them with a strap on.
One male sub told me that he experienced his attraction to dominant women as a misplaced reaction. He experienced anxiety when seeing a powerful woman and this crossed over into the rush he felt when he saw an attractive woman, so in his mind there is a connection between an attractive woman and sexual dominance. If you think about it, anxiety, infatuation and psychological arousal sort of do feel similar.
Man, you’ve certainly slutted it up during your time on Earth, slut!
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Go play with your lightsaber faggot.
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“Oh yes…what is the most common denominator amongst the majority of criminals imprisoned for crimes against society? The majority of them come from Fatherless homes.”
Misogynists like to point this out. Racists like to point out that the majority of criminals are black and hispanic. SWPLs like to point out that the majority of criminals are poor. HBD fans will point out that the majority of them have lower than average IQs.
But it is the case that a white person with average IQ is not especially likely to become a criminal even if they come from a fatherless home. No father is not the main problem criminals have.
And by nearly every human development index, the world is currently better than it was in the 1950s. I personally feel that the divorce rate is an improvement over the 1950s. Back then, people were stuck in bad marriages. Now, they can leave. I have met almost no divorced people that would be happier in the marriage they left.
“Man, you’ve certainly slutted it up during your time on Earth, slut!”
Shrugs. Oddly, as a manhating ‘lesbian’ feminist, I am the least sluttish thing aside from a virgin if we only consider the number of times I have had sex with men and the amount of male partners I have had.
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PS, getting into a pissing contest on Roissy’s blog about the alphaness or betaness of various comments is definitely *definitely* omega behavior.
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Feministx
Misogynists are men who hate women. (Applied reasonably it means almost all women, i.e. reflexively hates women.)
Feminists have long and reflexively shreaked misogynist to or about any man who doesn’t accept any important part of feminism, or who points out terrible downsides to feminism. It’s utterly absurd and without foundation that men who do so most or usually do hate women. Instead they may hate or greatly dislike feminism.
The rest of that paragraph is full of similar leftist cheap and bullshit shots.
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Feministx–
I can’t decide how much or whether you hate men, though as I’ve said most lesbians as opposed to true bisexuals do. You’ve sometimes said you do here, but it’s been attached to a quote from some beta such as Virgin40 expressing vile rape gangbang fantasies against you due to your lesbianism and generally pissing him off I guess, or something. Can’t say as I blame you for that reaction to him.
By and large you’re quite circumspect about that around here.
As I’ve said before you’re interesting and do have a lot of out of the box, intelligent insights.
You do however “exaggerate” a lot, to be charitable about it, without question. I’ve only pointed it out on a couple of things, although on you bisexual claims when you’ve presented clear evidence that you’re really a straight up exclusive lesbian (with a tolerance for grin and bear it sex with men if there’s something to be gained by it for you), I keep repeating that from time to time since you keep repeating your really bisexual at least once a day here.
Hey if you’re so interested in maintaining that here, or really on your own blog which has seen an inflow of people from here including me, at least make the effort to come up with some convincing hot sex with men stories.
I’ll be interested to see how well you can do. I suppose you’ll probably find one somewhere and paraphrase it into your own voice. You’re talented enough to do that.
So guess what, since I’m predicting that’s what you’ll do, and you haven’t spontaneously offered backup detail to your bisexual claims by now, when you do post such stories here or on your own blog I’m not going to believe them.
Unless you can do something to convince me. Not sure what that would be, but I am fair minded, as you yourself have alluded to.
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Darth
I tend towards unintelligability the more I drink. Booze also tends to make me more creative and insightful, so what I like to do is write wasted, and edit sober.
But when blotto I can’t understand that the words come out as semi-cryptic. They seem to me as clear metaphors. The next day when I can’t figure out what I was thinking can be an embarassment. More often not though
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it is an
oxymoron
to call a woman who blows politicians
high class
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Doug, don’t ask me to go on a manhating rant. Take my word for it, I’d love to.
And no, Im not going to write hot sex stories on my blog. I did have a previous blog exclusively dedicated to my sexual exploits. It was extremely graphic. I’m done with that.
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^^^ooooh I would like a link.
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Chic noir, I closed it but it was XXXXX rated. Google put a warning on it.
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[“Da_Truth_Hurts
Go play with your lightsaber faggot.”]
Was that directed at me? If it was, I have to tell you that “lightsaber” is your girl’s name for my cock. Actually, it was “colossal lightsaber”.
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Darth – I was joking.
Essentially, I just tasked you. And you, in turn, eagerly just qualify yourself by trying to answer it correctly–to please your master/impress the rest of the blog readers.
You are a bitch.
😀
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@feministx- well if ever start writing those types of stories again, send me a link you(email or im)
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