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Haha great google trends graph — I have used the same to prove that card manipulation won’t get blown out by Internet exposure. For a laugh add “,ponies” to the list.
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It may suffer a bit more in the future, but not enought to make it a huge problem.
For instance, Game could be compared to diet and excercise.
I mean alot of people know tips on diets and excercise, but in reality how many people actually have the motivation to just keep going on at it? very few.
Its the same thing for Game. Alot of men know about it but just how many are actually being consistent at it?
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Back in college I spent my summers moving. Upon picking up a dresser, one of the drawers fell open and with that a pocket-pussy popped out and fell on the floor. We refused to touch it and left it on the floor for them to find on their final walkthrough. They never mentioned it…
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cool. Roissy now looks like zerohedge or calculatedrisk. Will the HBD-PUA-Financial Blogosphere merge someday?
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this is not good news. forget about the overexposure factor. personally, i welcome competition.
it does mean that male game may never become the much-needed check to ridiculous female behavior. this, coupled with a rapidly expanding welfare state, equals continuing social decline.
there’s got to be a silver lining though…
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Game is nothing more than living up to your own potential by abandoning the pretty lies that every men are fed since birth. So its potential is actually bounded by the genetic potential of the individual.
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It doesn’t surprise me that most things related to porn would be going up strongly over the last few years, but it does surprise me that “dating tips” even generically without singling out PUA sites, would be trending down, rather than at least a little bit up. I suspect that’s what’s going on with dating sites EX PUA ones.
The overall though is that more guys are giving up? I wonder what the trend is on women doing dating searches.
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Is the name pronounced row-issy or roy-see?
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The later, Mr. Q.
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Theory vs. practice. Knowing what to do and doing it are two different things.
i.e. Have you ever noticed how screwed up shrinks kids are?
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Not to be a link whore today, but it’s National Offend a Feminist Week, y’all!:
http://rsmccain.blogspot.com/2009/05/national-offend-feminist-week.html
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The french is pronounced “wa-SEE”.
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The term “dating tips” is probably as likely to be used by men and women (maybe even more by women).
Other searches (e.g., using “game,” “the game, “PUA,” and “pickup”) show more hopeful, trends.
However, given the news articles shown (e.g., “GM to cease production at 4 pickup, SUV factories,” “OHA gives $1M to Na Pua Noeau program”) I am not sure just what the trends really show. Roll on the sematic web.
I tried MGTOW and that term does not even register.
I tried “the rules” (chick “game”) and after a decline was holding steady against “dating tips” which had fewer hits.
I did not include links because that would hold this post in quarantine.
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“Silvio Berlusconi: It’s my wife who should apologise”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/may/04/silvio-berlusconi-veronica-lario-divorce
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Berlusconi’s a dick, like all Italians, but definitely alpha.
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Selection bias going on here on more than one level.
– The fleshlight crowd is more apt to spend more time online, I’d imagine.
– Fleshlight is a discrete term aimed at one product. “Dating Tips” is probably one of dozens of permutations of dating and relationship advice.
– Hot girls are few. The likelihood that they are exposed to routines, patterns, etc. is much higher. Especially in the coastal cities, your urban bar-dwelling beauty has likely heard it. Of course, if she likes you…
Still, I think this isn’t the best model.
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Interesting graph. Personally I’m not worried at all about any of this stuff. Reason being that when I step out there, I’m focused on *me* and what I can and can’t do. I concentrate on the former, and keep the latter in perspective-no Man can achieve everything, we all have limitations, no big whup.
Game, like anything else in life worth having or doing, takes work to make it work, and the plain truth is that its much easier to go the route of least resistance. Hence one of the reasons why most guys don’t get laid on the regular.
Even the naturals put some kin of work into what they do in some way. Its rare in my experience to just see guys attracting gals outta nowhere. Very rare.
The Game will never die, just change, as it should, with the times, in order to remain relevant. These changes won’t be fundamental as much as, for lack of a better way of putting it, cosmetic.
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When my kind buys dildos, it’s sexy.
See, what we need is more equality between sexes.
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I would bet money that most of the fleshlight viewers are female or homosexual men.
They have videos of the product in use.
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the only way you would worry about overexposure of game is if you consider game to be nothing more than a set of canned openers and routines. game is really about understanding social dynamics and gender relationships, and learning to put your best foor forward and ending self-defeating behavior. women aren’t going to get ‘overexposed’ to that.
it’s like saying that if everyone women starts drastically improving her head game, men are going to lose interest in good head.
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“what we need is more equality between sexes.”
—Um, hooker? Claiming that you “need” equality between the sexes because you “see” a difference in how they are treated is why you women never amount to much in this world.
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What’s with the spikes in traffic at the end of each year? Are people giving these as Christmas presents? Yeesh.
Dating Tips and others may be right that “dating tips” is generic and “fleshlight” depressingly specific, but wouldn’t that argue that the result is even stronger that the graph shows? In other words, a broad search category should get many more hits, not less, than one for a very specific product.
Also agree with others that, despite VH1 shows, best-selling books and occasional attention from the likes of The View and Dr Phil, that Game is still mostly underground, or at least only focused on by a very small and committed segment of the population, relatively speaking. So I doubt that every beautiful girl in NYC or LA has been gamed, or knows all the pickup routines by now. Agree with Lance on this.
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All – FemX is baiting us all again for fun. Obsidian was right yesterday – responding only encourages more of that kind of behavior, and lots of useless commentary.
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maybe the red line is going down because guys are finally figuring this stuff out and therefore aren’t so hopeless they have to actually google “dating tips”…
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I’m not even sure that game ever could, in principle, be overexposed. Girls may be able to pick up on specific lines or routines used on them repeatedly, but those openers and routines that do over-circulate constitute just a few of the infinite ways to exploit a girl’s hardwired attraction circuitry. In my view it doesn’t matter how many men come to understand the nature of female psychology as laid out by game, because I think it’s crazy to imagine that women en masse would take the steps to form a similar understanding and then attempt to transcend it in some way.
That said, even if game could in principle be overexposed, I don’t think it will because guys on the whole are either 1) too lazy, 2) too undereducated to understand the theory (and only willing to learn a few canned lines) 3) too over-educated to accept that game could work 4) unable to immerse themselves in studying game because of moral hang-ups (also likely the result of over-education).
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“See, what we need is more equality between sexes.”
What we need is for you to shut up and get back in the kitchen and/or bedroom.
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i agree that most buyers of pocket pussies and what-not are probably women. i’ve had two girlfriends buy me these things in my life, and i’ve never used them. i tried them on, in the same way that you try on a shitty sweater when your aunt buys it for you, but i didn’t like them.
in their infinite narcissism, women think that because they like toys that men must like them too. well we don’t. i’d rather use my hand or a real vagina than a pseudo-skinned vagina.
the increased traffic to the site is indicitave of increased brand awareness.
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Juxtapose a porn search as well. More porn = more DA’s sitting at home, giving up on women altogether. That means more women looking for fewer men.
Game is just going to get easier as more men opt out.
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“When my kind buys dildos, it’s sexy.
See, what we need is more equality between sexes.”
Actually, I think there already is equality between sexes on this matter. In that, a woman who owns sex toys is generally considered weird and creepy by men, just as a man who owns sex toys is considered weird and creepy by women. Basically, it’s indicative of slutiness, which men are hardwired to be at least somewhat repulsed by.
It’s true though that a man is far more willing to overlook this kind of fact about a woman. It almost certainly won’t make or break his decision to fuck her, though it will very likely lead him to re-calculate the degree of emotional/temporal/monetary investment he puts in the girl.
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I don’t find that game is easy, being that it is somewhat unnatural for me. It is hard to maintain over time because inevitably my real non gaming personality comes out.
It is taxing to have to keep someone in line. I would imagine that it is taxing for heterosexual men as well, but perhaps less so. Perhaps they feel greater natural comfort in playing the game.
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“i agree that most buyers of pocket pussies and what-not are probably women. i’ve had two girlfriends buy me these things in my life, and i’ve never used them. i tried them on, in the same way that you try on a shitty sweater when your aunt buys it for you, but i didn’t like them.”
Now that you mention it, I have suitcases filled with sex toys, none of which were bought by men or by me- all hand me downs or gifts from other girls.
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Shut the fuck up and go away Fx, you are never going to be as good as a man.
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“Shut the fuck up and go away Fx, you are never going to be as good as a man.”
Depending on what we are measuring, I am good or better than your average man. This applies to even some male oriented endeavors. I am better at video games, math, picking up attractive women and it seems like I have slightly better directional sense than the average man. Most women are probably good at at least one traditionally male task. We’re not all flowers and shoe shopping all the time.
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Pupu has trouble following the argument — isn’t Game one kind of dating tips?
On a different note, does a fleshlight flash in bright colors when the user comes? It would be a nice feature to include.
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Not so good at following directions.
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Allright fem now you have thrown down the gaunlet better at video games lol
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Feministrix, right. I’m sure you’re loads better than most men at picking up hot girls. That’s why you come to a PUA site.
Or….you’re a typical woman. A failure.
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lurker–
No. His wife’s a shit to do this to him in the middle of an election campaign. Political wives, particularly of a man so high up the hierarchy, rarely do. Afterwords, though still damaging, would be different.
As well the incident highlighted in the article really doesn’t sound that suspicious despite Berlesconi’s past and rep. His wife seems to mostly be reacting to the way the media is working to humiliate her to get to him. She’s provided plenty of evidence in the past of how much the media can get to her, which of course only eggs them on.
I think he handled it just right, in the context of a macho culture. It should be how we could handle the same thing here.
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Video games are how the world is gonna be run. Which will put aside this female equality bullshit.
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“That’s why you come to a PUA site.”
I’m good, but I’m not as good as I could be. Though I read the comments to sort of see the mind frame of the average male.
“you’re a typical woman. A failure”
Pity for you that you aren’t homosexual.
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feministx–
You’re certainly good at puffing yourself up like a blow fish. If only everyone would just take you at your braggadocio word.
What happened??? A few days ago you were peerless at that!! You were then able to inerrantly pick up the very hottest girl in the room, bar or club, if only for the night often enough. So sorry for your steep reversal of skills!
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“You were then able to inerrantly pick up the very hottest girl in the room, bar or club, if only for the night often enough. So sorry for your steep reversal of skills!”
Like I told you, I am pretty good at picking up women for the night, but I am not that good at maintaining their interest because it is hard for me to remain an enigmatic dominant presence. Not much of a butch in the end.
“You’re certainly good at puffing yourself up like a blow fish. If only everyone would just take you at your braggadocio word.”
Well, people here are good at generalized put downs. And I am bad at some male interests as well. I am not a very object oriented person, so I would make a poor engineer or mechanic. Overall, I have a more feminine than masculine persnoality.
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I also don’t see this as a PUA site. I see this as a catalog of one very insightful man’s observations about human sexuality.
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Again, comments page hijacked by FemX attention-whore needs. Just sayin’ …
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FemX,
No offense intended, but you are dumb and boring. I read the blog entry you linked to last week. It was incoherent to the point that for a while I thought it might actually be a PUA-written parody of bitch-logic.
You are never going to get the amount of attention you so obviously crave by writing about ideas, because so many other people on the internet are so much better at it than you could ever hope to be. Moved to pity, I offer the following advice.
I see two options for you: The obvious option would be a graphic confessional-style blog about your own sex and dating life. Thousands of other female attention whores have proven this to be an effective strategy. The even more obvious option would demand less of your mediocre talents as a writer — in fact, it requires only a digital camera.
You may not realize it at present, but either of these approaches would actually be less embarrassing for you than the one you are currently attempting.
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“Again, comments page hijacked by FemX attention-whore needs. Just sayin’ ”
Umm. I’m not really doing anything aside from providing placid responses to comments. No one needs you to play moderator here. It’d be pretty beta if we did.
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“You are never going to get the amount of attention you so obviously crave by writing about ideas,”
I don’t actually crave the kind of attention this blog gets. I like where my blog is. The comments I get tend to be well thought out and well informed, and my presentation of ideas does not provoke arguments.
Seriously though, I am not the one asking for a discussion about me here. Please go back to discussing some topic related to the initial post.
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“Hand-me-downs”? Great way to catch someone else’s diseases fem! Now I know beyond a shadow of a doubt you’re a whore.
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I kind of love those Fleshlight video ads. They’re in that twilight zone between “Hot” and “Weird.”
How much do you suppose their product demonstrators get paid?
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“Its the same thing for Game. Alot of men know about it but just how many are actually being consistent at it?”
Schoolboy, with Game you don’t need to be that consistent to “improve” yourself. And, I think that when it’s about getting laid with hot chicks or passing your genes to the next generation, only DA will resist to the temptation of doing it.
Man, even I am trying to do some little things here and others there.
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““Hand-me-downs”? Great way to catch someone else’s diseases fem! Now I know beyond a shadow of a doubt you’re a whore.
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1) I don’t much like sex toys so I never actually use them.
2) Biology, people. Pathogens need a live host. Put a dildo in some boiling water and it’s a million times safer than a real dick.
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Lol! Pocket Vaginas!
I’ve never seen one and I’m not interested. Although it could also be interesting…
It just lacks some… well… lacks it all. And I bet it’s not comparable to a vagina.
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“”””””””fembot
1) I don’t much like sex toys so I never actually use them.””””””””””””
That is cute lieing because noone thought sex toys where great.
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Naaa virgin the fake vaginas are actually better than the real thing.
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Just kidding on the vag thing never tried one. Just putting a wierd movie out there lol
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LOL
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Bad news for Peter: Fleshlights don’t have GNPs!
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Virgin@40
Lol! Pocket Vaginas!
They used to be advertised on overnight TV along with the Veg-O-Matic and the Popeil Pocket Fisherman.
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Schadenfreude time; a pathetic and hilarious anecdote from someone who used one of them things (well, a “vagina-in-a-beer-can”, but close enough)
“… I found myself sitting on the bed in my hotel room, drunk and lonely and sexually frustrated, and I kept staring over at that stupid beer can vagina. “Maybe I should just try it. Just see what it feels like…” I mean, why not, right? You know. Just for kicks, right? So you know what? I fucked it. Yeah. I fucked a plastic beer can. I fucked the shit out of that can. And you know what? It felt alright. It did the trick. That is, until it was all over. Until the moment after, when I was hit by a sobering freight train of humility, looking down at my dick stuck inside a latex vagina housed in a plastic beer can. Moments like that you start to question everything – “How the hell did it come to this? Who am I? What am I doing with my life?” I probably sat there for an hour, silently with my plastic lover, pondering my existence.
The next morning, when the subject of the previous night came up and someone said, “oh, where’s that funny beer can thing we got? Rob, you had it, right?” And everyone looks at me, and I just stare at them for a moment, and then say, “…I fucked it. I fucked it and I hated myself, and now it’s gone.” There was a slight pause, followed by uproarious laughter. The ridicule took months to subside.”
http://www.demonbaby.com/blog/2005/08/curiosities-from-japans-porno-shops.html
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Willard Libby
Yikes! Pocket Vaginas and Veg-O-Matics, those two together present disturbing possibilities.
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Eighty percent of men fuck like little boys, coming in under twenty minutes, at very best.
Eightey percent of men prefer to be stuck in a comfortable rut.
Eighty percent of men pull statistics out of their ass, in times of need to make a valid point.
Of the remaining twenty percent, few have the inspiration or aptitude to learn how to date. Dating involves endless new experiences. Most people don’t have the stomach for it.
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feministxy
I get the impression that you might like to try the former with the latter. That is put a real live dick in boiling water.
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Misspell my e-mail and I lose my gravatar, that will teach me.
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Feminist.x reminds me of someone. A someone anyone would fall in love and lust with – but a someone who inevitably would betray, because her soul would turn to a non-romantic direction. Some would say a direction that lacks depth or soul – at least soulful direction. A mildly depressed and essentially nihilistic soul. Craving, with the best possible body and spirit to crave, but not much more than craving.
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nah, she’d get annoying after about 3 fucks and you’d chuck her for a teenage Asian girl
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Never underestimate a woman’s natural prociivity towards charm. If she dug me, she would charm – and in person words have less importance.
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“Feminist.x reminds me of someone. A someone anyone would fall in love and lust with – but a someone who inevitably would betray, because her soul would turn to a non-romantic direction. Some would say a direction that lacks depth or soul – at least soulful direction. A mildly depressed and essentially nihilistic soul. Craving, with the best possible body and spirit to crave, but not much more than craving.”
I have no idea what the fuck that means,
but it is bona fide ALPHA.
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