It’s interesting to recall who among the women blessed to have crossed lifepaths with the masculine juggernaut that is moi insisted I use a condom on the first night together. (Note: This is a separate issue from whether I decided to use a condom myself.)
A partial selection (because who can remember every girl they’ve slept with?):
Update: I completely forgot the DC lawyer chicks ———– NO CONDOM.
First love — Insisted on condom.
French au pair — Insisted on condom. Rolled it on with her mouth.
Bikini girl — No condom.
Riotgrrl DJ — Insisted on condom.
Library pickup — No condom.
Chinese girl — Insisted on condom.
Asian girl of indeterminate origin — No condom.
Asian girl of painfully tight hole — Insisted on condom.
Amelie lookalike — Insisted on condom.
Indian girl — Insisted on condom for blowjob (!) but not for sex (!!).
Artsy chick (#17 in a series) — Insisted on condom.
Cokehead — Insisted on condom.
Girl who was beaten by stepdad — Insisted on condom.
Ugliest girl I have ever banged — No condom.
Hard-charging MBA student — No condom.
Best friend of hard-charging MBA student — Insisted on condom.
Married Russian chick — No condom.
Russian au pair — Insisted on condom.
Married Polish chick — No condom.
Blonde with boyfriend — No condom.
Short brunette with boyfriend — No condom.
Bartender 1 — No condom.
Bartender 2 — No condom.
Bartender 3 — No condom.
Stripper — Insisted on condom.
Croatian chick — Insisted on condom.
Girl with smelly pussy — No condom.
Girl with five mangy hamsters for pets — Insisted on condom.
Black girl — No condom.
NIH nurse — Insisted on condom for round one but dropped insistence for round two.
Tomboy — Insisted on condom.
Romanian chick — No condom.
Preacher’s daughter (for real) — Insisted on condom.
Niece of semi-famous politico — Insisted on condom.
Blog groupies (6 of 13) — No condom.
Girl with furry ass — Insisted on condom.
Army girl with smelly ass — No condom.
Bulgarian girl — Insisted on condom.
Finnish girl — No condom.
Turkish girl — No condom.
Argentinian girl — Insisted on condom.
French girl with the most beautiful name in the world — No condom.
Girl who mentioned she was a Mensa member — No condom.
Chic Noir — No condom.
Rubbing my chin in deep pontification, savoring every delicious sexual memory, I detect a correlation between how long I dated a girl and whether she insisted I use a condom on the first night together. Here is a graphical representation:
The time I spent with the girl is the vertical axis. The number of times she insisted I use a condom is the horizontal axis. (Condom insistence was usually frontloaded in the dating cycle.) As we can see, the girls who insisted I use a condom on the first night were more likely to be granted the privilege of being my girlfriend. Dirty little sluts who flung themselves at my unsheathed cock had a higher chance of being a pump and dump or short term fling.
The longer a girl insisted on condom usage, the likelier I would treat her like a precious gemstone. But there are diminishing returns to this general rule. If a girl refused to start taking the pill and made me wear a condom well past the four week mark, I cut her loose. This was probably a wise decision by me. One, condoms suck. Two, she thinks I’m sleeping around on her but doesn’t care (this is a bad foundation for a fledgling relationship, even if true). Three, I wonder who else is she fucking?
For solid girlfriend material, you’ll want to aim for a condom usage insistence number of three sexual encounters. This allows her to maintain the fiction that she isn’t a slut, while not pushing you past the point of grudging acceptance into resentment at having your pleasure circumscribed by some smelly latex.
The pill?! That’s messing with my hormones!
Still, guess I don’t count since I’d insist on marriage (best condom ever made according to some).
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priceless…LOL!!!!
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This blog is really starting to weird me out.
Very timely post again.
Last night swooped a daughter of a well known tech company CEO in the Bay Area. Parents live in Atherton and all that.
She kept insisting that I don’t wear a condom.
Over and over again. She even said she wouldn’t swoop me (not her words) With a condom.
Pulled a massive take away.
Then swooped her with condom.
Shuffled her out of my crib this am, and went for a jog and hit the speed bag.
Side note:
Roissy, I hope these were Girl Bartenders and not some “experimentation phase”:
“Bartender 1 — No condom.
Bartender 2 — No condom.
Bartender 3 — No condom.”
– MPM
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Try polyurethane – no latex smell.
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Bhetti
i just began to read this blog- a few weeks or so at most.
i see that you are a woman, highly educated, and a Muslim.
i don’t know your back-story- but i have a few questions:
are you a virgin?
How does reading this blog jive with your religion?
Do you believe the Muslim religion to be the right religion?
You are an adult and wish to be a medical doctor- so does a strict adherence this religion suit you?
Do you resent the religion and how it excuses male’s treatment for females as second class citizens?
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LOL, funny post, R. Of course I have trouble relating somewhat, as the vast majority of my experiences have been sans the Trojans. Its true-Brothas by and large, *hate* condoms-its like eating a Philly Cheeseteak w/a latex rubber glove over your tongue. Ugh.
But on the relatively few instances where I’ve strapped up-and often at the request of the lady in question, because she couldn’t take the pill and didn’t want to get pregnant-I granted her request, on one condition:
That she had to put it on herself. O don’t mess w/condoms much himself. She can do it manually or roll it on w/her lips, doesn’t matter which.
O
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Game in BK: Too completely off-topic. E-mail me.
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And since you were a willing participant with no condom at least 20 times…how frequently do you go in for STD testing and are you sure you are not the baby daddy in your last post? 🙂
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So … what’s the GNP/BaldEagle/Landing Strip breakdown of these girls?
Peter
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The amount of girls willing to have sex without condoms sincerely frightens me.
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well i guess that answers the question of whether or not there are real blog groupies.
i can’t believe that married chicks allow no condoms.
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Girls “allowing” no condoms is not the issue.
Its girls “insisting” that you don’t wear them.
But then again, I can’t blame girls, I am quite a catch.
– MPM
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the majority of the girls ive been with have not been insistent on me using a condom.
kam-
you better believe it.
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The chart and basic point are right, but the whole “did she make me use a condom the first time” thing is off.
In my younger years, I used to go for the raw dog kill a lot. Many times a girl brings up the condom issue when you are about a half second away from entry. So unless you actually raw dogged on the first night, I’m not sure it can really be counted as her not making you use a condom.
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And how exactly did all this rawdog come about? Did she look soulfully at you and pinky-swear she hadn’t banged anybody else without a condom in the last 6 months and cross her heart you wouldn’t end up dying?
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Lemmonex:
The amount of girls willing to have sex without condoms sincerely frightens me.
As woman, what kinds of condoms do YOU prefer, Lem?
For myself, I like the one that easily go on.
And in.
You.
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“Married Russian chick — No condom.
Married Polish chick — No condom.
Blonde with boyfriend — No condom.
Short brunette with boyfriend — No condom.”
Taken women. That is incredible data right there. Assuming you are not lying Roissy.
“Chic Noir — No condom.”
I spilled my drink all on my keyboard..dammit this was too much!!! Although I’m not surprised.
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so what’s the most beautiful name in the world?
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I also find this post to be very timely and relevant to a non-made-up experience I just had recently.
In fact, this morning, as I was peeing into my solid gold toilet after I had totally real sex with a real woman, I was thinking “dang, my life has so many DHV spikes embedded in it, it’s a wonder I have so much time to tell everyone how badass I am.” That sort of relates to this post, I guess.
Anyway, back to swooping females and being a champion.
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There is data that says that when a woman cheats, it is likely that she is doing so during her peak period for pregnancy and she is more likely than normal to do it without contraception.
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If a girl refused to start taking the pill and made me wear a condom well past the four week mark, I cut her loose. This was probably a wise decision by me. One, condoms suck. Two, she thinks I’m sleeping around on her but doesn’t care (this is a bad foundation for a fledgling relationship, even if true). Three, I wonder who else is she fucking?
Brilliant.
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more charts and graphs!
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“Try polyurethane – no latex smell.”
Agreed.
If you’re not too worried about STDs, try lamb skin condoms. They’re amazing.
Also, roissy, you posed a question about the reason married women insisted on you not wearing a condom…
I think it’s because they’re more used to having unprotected sex with their husbands so wearing a condom presents a large change from their usual routine. I rarely wore condoms until my current girlfriend, and it took months for me to get used to diving in with the wet suit on.
If you’re used to the extreme pleasure of the raw dog, it’s hard to go back to using the condom.
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Applicable to 99% of Roissy readers:
Mrs. Palm and her five daughters – no condom
Peter
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Man i was going yo say if a girl cheats on her husband or man, she’ll do it raw. Then if she gets something she’ll blame it on him.
so the inverse is if you’re dating someone long term start wearing a condom?
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Lemmonex,
One does wonder that in about 10 years we are going to start seeing some very resistant strains of various STD’s out there…………………….
Both of my old roomies when I was a lad had boughts of the crabs, and one had venereal warts (not bad for the guys, but its bad for the girls).
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Mrs. Palm and her five daughters – no condom
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
The soap is missing!!!
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You really did Chic Noir — or was that a joke?
Liberals like to pretend “we adults” are all using condoms, but I think it just isn’t the case. STDS are going to spread and spread and spread.
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BTW, appropos of nothing, I’d like to throw out here that there is something wrong with you and your posters assumptions that testosterone is responsible for manly straights such as agressiveness, bravery, etc.
I have had my testosterone level measured 3 times a number of years apart, by different doctors, and all 3 results were the same. I am outside the normal range — on the high side. Yet, I am not agressive, I don’t have a heavy beard, or deep voice, or huge testicles. I would say the ONLY thing testosterone noticeabley affects is libido. I definitely have a stronger than normal sex drive, and nobody I’ve met is a bigger girl watcher. That’s it, though.
It’d be nice if some of your readers who have actual medical training could discuss the other sex hormones and how they might contribute to “male” characteristics that we loosely ascribe to testosterone.
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straights = traits
noticeabley = noticeably
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Anyone else notice a relationship between this topic and yesterday’s? Esp wrt the “taken” women.
I don’t mind the raincoat – you get used to it and it’s always a good idea for a new conquest/relationship, because you never know where she’s been. (And she you.) As the old military anti-syphilis posters used to say …”Moment of pleasure, lifetime of regret.” Again relevant to today’s and yesterday’s threads both.
In that vein – for the alpha/playa types like Roissy who know they never want children – why not the vascectomy option? You’ll never get hit up for child support by some crazed ex, or made to do so by a court — and you’ll be able to truthfully say you can never put a fling or LTR in that position. I know a few people who have had it done and they report zero change in sex drive or habits. Other than losing the raincoat.
Thoughts? Could it be that the permanence of this option is scary even to the Roissys of the world, who at some metagenetic “hindbrain” level want to maintain the option of future spawn?
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HAS Roissy gone on record as not EVER wanting children? Besides, someone has already said that in the back of our minds is the idea that there may be a global disaster someday and our sperm will be needed to repopulate the world!
I just don’t see how having sex with a woman a few times means you can relax your guard.
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Coincidentally, I find my condom use often coincides with a herp flare up. Wait, what was the question?
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interesting, though not surprising, that the Bartender chicks went raw…
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foremerlyomegabeta,
There are differences in the numbers and expression and activity of androgen RECEPTORS between men. A guy with a heavy beard and a lot of chest hair might have the same serum levels of testosterone and testosterone metablolites like Androstenidione, Dehydroepiandrosteronesulfate, and Dihydrotestosterone as you do, but his androgen receptors in his dermis (skin) might be more active, more numerous, or chemically bind the male hormones for longer than yours do…………….giving him all the body hair and facial hair.
The receptor expression in his muscle tissues might make him naturally burly and muscular, or YOU naturally muscular……..
Androgen receptor expression is probably the biggest difference between the obvious masculinity between males. Tests have shown that between races, there really isn’t much appreciable difference in levels of testosterone. Blacks had slightly more than hispanics, who had slightly more than whites………………………but they were tiny differences.
98% of your testosterone is carried around your body by a hormone called globulin (SHBG) that is known as “sex-hormone-BINDING-globulin”. It carries around testosterone in a “bound” form making it unable to bind with androgen receptors and unleash androgen inducible genes in organs, muscles, and the dermis (skin) and hair. If your globulin is a little low, you might have some more “free” testosterone floating around. Inslin-insensitivity supposedly lessens the globulin levels some and increases the amount of free testosterone (especially in the dermis, which is why diabetics often have aged skin and extreme pattern baldness in later years).
Your ESTROGEN levels also might contribute to how masculine you appear to be. Estraidol and other estrongens can affect your androgen receptors by binding to them, but not releasing the downstream androgen inducible genes. Some soy products and hops contain estrogen-like compounds, as well as certainl clover teas if memory serves. Boys were shown to get gynochomastia if they used lavender and tea tree body washes. Lavender and tea tree were shown to stimulate the estrogen receptors and to mildly block some of the androgen receptors…………..and the boys got breast tissue like girls.
Dermal levels of dihydrotestosterone can also lessen the amount of body hair a man has. Some men lack the enzyme that converts testosterone to dihydrotestoserone, and they never get acne or go bald or get very much body hair at all. Their testosterone levels are fine, but dihydrotestosterone apparently binds much longer to the androgen receptor (slower dissassociation rate) and unlocks more downstream androgen inducible genes when a molecule of it does bind.
We are our hormones in a way. If youve ever seen a TV program that showed you transexuals (either male to female or female-to-male) you can see the profound difference that happens to people over time when they block their hormones. Ive seen a “woman” who looked just like a man with muscle, a thick beard, aged face, body hair with her genetic twin sister (very feminine) before. She just took a lot of testosterone and have her ovaries removed. Thats it. Basically became a man without a dick. You can see the reverse on Maury Povitch some time, as men who take androgen receptor antagonsits (blocks the androgen receptors) and take estrogen who begin to really look like women (lose their body hair, hips get fat, grow breasts, face gets soft, all that stuff).
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A buddy of mine had got a decent knotch count. He used to always go raw-dog. One girl must have been getting especially wet on him and dripping some funky STDs while riding him. He got a bunch of warts just below his nutsack to his ass.
The doctors asked him questions precluding to his homosexuality… “Whens the last time you were the recipient of anal sex?”. He was fairly ashamed.
After that story, I insist on wearing condoms for the first few nights.
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It just occured to me that I wasn’t actually surprised by the condom phenomenon. I’ve been too familiar with it from the only sluttish friend of mine, whose birth control approach brought me to despair. She wasn’t even competent enough to remember her pill when she needed to, and renew the perscription when it was due.
For her, pleasure first. Abortion (and probably STDs in the future) later. I’m not surprised it’s even worse with women who roissy has sex with, because even though this friend was slutty, she still only slept with guys she knew for a while first.
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ew! Let’s keep it real, Roissy: how many STDs have you had or are you currently a carrier of? Herpes and warts are practically guaranteed after hitting that many skanks raw.
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to prevent STDs in the lead up to the raw dog, I squirt a healthy does of lemon juice on my shaft and head then cover it with talc powder….i prefer to use freshly squeezed lemons, not that shit that comes in the little lemon shaped plastic container…i apply the talc powder liberally along the shaft and balls, much like an olympic gymnast preparing for the uneven bars….with this strategy, i’m STD free since 2003.
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*lurker cover your ears*
Forgive me for saying this but you are a ho.
I don’t care to get into how a man can/can’t be a ho.
Chic Noir — No condom.
So not funny Roissy. After seeing that list even if I were attracted to you a little bit, I wouldn’t touch you.
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Z One does wonder that in about 10 years we are going to start seeing some very resistant strains of various STD’s out there…………………….
To late “they” are already here.
formerlyomegabeta
You really did Chic Noir — or was that a joke?
It’s a cruel joke
schoolboy, don’t believe him.
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to prevent STDs in the lead up to the raw dog, I squirt a healthy does of lemon juice on my shaft and head then cover it with talc powder….i prefer to use freshly squeezed lemons, not that shit that comes in the little lemon shaped plastic container…i apply the talc powder liberally along the shaft and balls, much like an olympic gymnast preparing for the uneven bars….with this strategy, i’m STD free since 2003.
Fuck, why stop there. May as well dip your dong in a bucket of bleach.
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Chuck you might be retarded.
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Chuck:
For the love of Einstein. Return to science, unbeliever, for it will save you from STDs. *waves a handbook of medicine at you* REPENT!
And Commonsense Ch3 Verse2 said ‘For the hand that dippeth into the hole of mud covered in holy water may be clean, but it doth emerge covered in mud. Yea, ye who do not believe, do ye not see the light? Wash away the dirt of your sins on thine hands and wear gloves’.
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What Chuck said is akin to saying:
“Ever since I started trimming my pubes there haven’t been any forest fires in my state, so I’ll keep snipping.”
Casuation I guess isn’t understood by everyone.
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Bhetti:
“And Commonsense Ch3 Verse2 said ‘For the hand that dippeth into the hole of mud covered in holy water may be clean, but it doth emerge covered in mud. Yea, ye who do not believe, do ye not see the light? Wash away the dirt of your sins on thine hands and wear gloves’.”
You sure that isn’t a metaphor for anal sex?
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Specious reasoning there, Chuck. You have to use hydrogen peroxide and iodine right afterwards to kill all the bad stuff.
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Tommy, Tupac:
try it…it might burn a little, perhaps even more than the STD itself, and yeah, when you’re fucking her the talc powder will get all doughy on you and turn yellow, but it works. i saw it on Mr. Wizard back in the late ’80s.
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LOL
The only thing I remember about Mr. Wizard were those badass lycopodium(sp) powder fireballs.
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oh dear, how on earth can someone still be so stupid to have sex with a random pick up, do they carry around papers from a monthly STD check these days? Or how do you know, and also ask for HIV test before let go of the condom,
my friend got a harmless HPV strain, but she had to go for years to treat them actually she still have them, when she got pregnant, they had to do a c-section instead of normal birth due to the infection risk. And then that was only HPV..
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you had sex with a girl that had a smelly pussy without a condom roissy? that’s gross, and i don’t think that it smart to take chances with your little soldier like that man.
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Chuck:
It’s my scripture and I’ll tell you what the proper interpretation is (Take it like a man): Wear protection when approaching any holes of unknown content.
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I’m sure Mr. Wizard, a show for children, was giving advice on homemade remedies to avoid the clap.
Retarded.
Chuck:”Hey babe, you ready to do this?”
Girl: “you know it”
Chuck: “Ok just wait til I make lemonade on my dick with some baby powder, then we’re ready to go”
A real mood setter.
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oh gosh i said “p****” in my last comment, i’m really sorry about that if those words aren’t allowed on this blog guys.
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Tommy,
do you have Asperger’s?
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I must, if I’m autistic for seeing a flaw or two in your method.
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Personally, I insist on a condom unless I get a really good read on her before hand, know she’s on the pill, and know she ain’t gonna give me the herpes, making this sort of chart … well, kind of backwardated.
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Guys, read Roissy’s post again at the top.
Roissy said: (Note: This is a separate issue from whether I decided to use a condom myself.)
“russell rodriguez
you had sex with a girl that had a smelly pussy without a condom roissy? that’s gross”
“blarg
ew! Let’s keep it real, Roissy: how many STDs have you had or are you currently a carrier of? Herpes and warts are practically guaranteed after hitting that many skanks raw.”
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I really don’t like how Roissy is encouraging women to insist on a condom early on. I love it when they don’t, so it’s bad to give women the impression it will somehow hurt their chances for commitment to be so agreeable. It’s like denigrating women for being “sluts” — not in men’s best interest!
Of course, the perfect world is one where everyone ELSE will use a condom, but that being unrealistic, I don’t promote safe sex at all.
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Most of you dumbasses are not reading his post correctly. He said these were women who did not make him use a condom, that doesn’t mean he didn’t decide to use a condom. He did not actually rawdog all of the people listed as “no condom.” They just would have. That is at least what Roissy is trying to say.
However, the count is therefore likely inaccurate, as many girls will make you use one at the last second.
But damn, all of you need to work on your reading comp.
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@He-Man
o i c, so that means he wraps it up every time, never goes down without a dental dam, and never engages in risky practices like unlubbed anal sex. GTFOH. lol.
Dude is likely a carrier of an STD supervirus. Esp if he expects to hit raw after a mere 4 weeks, never mind having side chicks or the chick being in a relationship. That’s just nasty.
Has there ever been an honest statement from Roissy re STD issues? Has Roissy ever mentioned getting tested or having a partner get tested? Or does he already have that House In Virginia?
Keep it funky, Roissy.
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I’m a bit disappointed in this post, ‘ssy.
This would have been an excellent “Quiz Post”: have the readers pick which girls would have insisted on condoms, and which wouldn’t have.
Instead, you just gave the game away. An incredible letdown, especially in light of the fact that you’ve created quiz posts whose answers are obvious to anyone with elementary reasoning skills.
Interactive is good.
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Madras
“(Note: This is a separate issue from whether I decided to use a condom myself.)”
I interpret it as, sometimes he use condom’s and sometimes not, if he used a condom with a “no condom” girl we do not know. And Roissy also decides to get rid of the condom after some time, whats the logic there? that an STD just disappears with time??
(and i have sunken very low here, discussing roissy’s condom’s, ok back to my studies..)
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meh, everybody takes for granted you’ve fucked chic noir.
curiosity lies within your shared moments with finefantastic! and whether she was up for the “Washington Wedge”
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This post surprised me. I’m not so much concerned with STD’s, since the ones you have more than a remote chance of getting are either unserious or treatable, but the thought of getting a girl preggers keeps me up at night.
For me, a girl has to have 2 or more of these qualities to qualify for bareback:
1) Unambiguously pro-abortion
2) Strong focus on a good career, i.e. she has a lot to lose by popping one out, so I can trust her to take those pills.
3) Verifiably at a point on her cycle that she is infertile. I keep track of girl’s cycles as best I can when I’m dating them.
4) Hot/cool/smart enough that I wouldn’t consider it the absolute end of the world if we had a kid. I absolutely don’t want a kid for the next decade at least, but I could live with raising a kid in some form of relationship with a wicked girl… but the idea of saddling my child with weak DNA from, say, the 7.5, kinda boring, kinda dumb girl I have over every week or so for an hour when I don’t have anyhting better going on… I am pretty sure I would flee the country. Clear up those student loans, too.
Also, bonus category: I am drunk, we are at her place, and she has no way of finding out my last name. This trumps all.
Bottom line gentlemen: don’t be a fool – wrap your tool.
Cheers,
Zdeno
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i swore by condoms all through college, even to my own detriment. senior year, i hooked up with a real “gemstone” (who expressed attraction to me the day after seeing me run around a Negril beach and hotel complex stark nude and blackout drunk… QUALITY). i actually first kiss-closed her on the plane heading back to campus.
went back to her apartment from the bar the next week and wouldn’t fuck her because she had no condoms. this turned into a minor argument and she actually tried to rape me by straddling me and pressing down on my shoulders. i held firm onto my principle and rolled her off me.
she revealed to me over the ensuing weeks that she had been a mid-level coke supplier in high school, that she’d used $100 a day (figure the standard x2 multiple, plus a discounted price from her position of access), could not remember YEARS of her life (either from repression or drug abuse), and that her stepfather moved her from long island to LA (two SPLENDID locales to raise a well-adjusted, chaste daughter btw) as a functional rehab.
through mostly my own idiocy and poor planning, i ratcheted up several more nights of hooking up with her that ended in the no condom, no intercourse equation. she did not give blowjobs (except once for about a minute during foreplay) and, most telling, WOULD NOT LET me go down on her, ever. eventually, i bought a big box of condoms and consummated the relationship.
the last night i banged her was in my apartment. i had two condoms left and was of course very drunk, the standard format for sexing this girl. after a while, i realized i would have to piss before i could bust a nut. after my bathroom break, i managed to drop the last condom under my bed, which i could not find for the life of me. of course, the girl urges me to fuck her anyway. i refuse and pass out in my drunken stupor. she breaks up with me over this (or possibly over the pictures of me with my girlfriend she may have noticed in my bedroom). not in the form of an argument, but rather by smoking my phone calls. eventually i saw her out at a bar and called her a “slutface whorehound” (while blacked out). she IMed me the next day with the instruction to never speak to her again.
i felt bad for a few hours, then swooped some natty lights and resumed my magical summer.
oh yeah, regarding condoms: i am positive this girl’s pussy must have been a 200 cock nuclear wasteland, and my condom insistence saved my life.
postscript: i typed her name into facebook last year and her profile pic was of a little baby. i am certain her capacity for motherhood is superlative.
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shit, that story comes from your boy Cannon’s Canon. i deleted my browser cookies and forgot to log back in.
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that’s Cannon telling that story.
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Ahhh a closer reading inspired by madras shows that Roissy did not in fact bareback all these girls. Good on ya.
Someone mentioned that a lot of girls will wait until the last second to insist on a condom. I don’t think I’ve ever seen this. I read somewhere (here?) that going for the rawdog and pulling out the condom at the last second is a good slut-test. I do this all the time and I am pretty sure <10% of girls who will let it go that far will pull that last second shit. Reason? Girls are not in their right minds once they are horny. You could ask a girl to gnaw off her on arm when she is ready to go and she will do it. The most recent chick I barebacked was off the pill, super christian and on the brink of 6-figure career. Hesitant at first, but she asked (begged) me to cum inside her mid-coital. Basically would have ruined her life, but she was all for it.
And yeah, I know that breaks my rule from my earlier post… they’re more “guidelines” than actual rules.
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For girls that tolerate them, IUD’s are the way to go.
The successor to Norplant is better than the pill. Much lower dosage and no chance of forgetting. The pill sucks for many reasons. Shots are better than the pill too, but I fail to see the argument for the dopo shot versus the successor to Norplant (me lazy much?).
For extremely good girls, a diaphram and spermicide are the way to go. Have on hand just in case.
As well, I think every girl should have on hand a morning after pill. Well if your are a birth control pill user and are erratic about it (honesty girls), just take 4 the day after. 4 of the active ones, not the bleeding time ones.
What we guys really need though are valved vasectomies. Turn the valve, come a few times, and you’re back in business.
They’re on clinical trial in Australia.
Oh yeah.
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“Blog groupies (6 of 13) — No condom.”
Pathetic. Some women are really asking for misery.
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Zdeno game: Hey, baby. Is it that time of the month for you?
It’s in the way you say it, guys.
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@ chic
schoolboy, don’t believe him.
“Black girl — No condom.
Chic Noir — No condom.”
I don’t know chic. The data says otherwise.
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feministick:
Your probably one of them.
Bhetti:
Do you speak english like “estelle” with a heavy ascent?
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Oh god. These posts just get worse and worse.
Now its an e-cock pumping session listing off your conquests. Mission: HIV!
brb, linking blog on snark communities O.o
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schoolboy: roissy is not alpha enough for feminist. He won’t even hit women properly. She likes them really sadistic.
Do I hayv agzend? That debendz, you thing Eztelle attracteev? If anzar to theez queztin Yez, then no.
He may have had chic noir, who likes them tall. But does he travel, wear suits often and is the CEO of something, says things like ‘I need to make love to you. I can’t wait to get out of this boardroom, I must have you now’ (even if it’s not his boardroom) and earn a lot of money?
Perhaps G Manifesto managed it.
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schoolboy: Understand that was not bitchiness but an attempt to prevent ‘the doug problem’. If you thing Eztelle unattracteev, the answer is still no. They should’ve changed the saying, to ‘Curiosity kills the man’.
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Too bad no one has begged him NOT to use a condom. Or begged him to impregnate her, no strings attached.
And what’s with tediously writing “insisted on” over and over again rather than a simple “yes/no”? No one is grading him on word count.
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I had a same-day-lay tell me about how she hated condoms. She was super shady, so I was not going to take any chances on her.
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Roissy need to impregnate one of those chicks. In 16 years my boy’s gonna want a competent wingman.
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So Roissy , how often do you get tested for STI’s dude ?
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Bhetti
Waaaa?
What doug problem?
My greatest ambition in life is for you to be deliriously happy.
Well, that might not be quite honest. (Though god! I’d get a charge out of that, it would ALWAYS be a LARGE part of my agenda.)
What’s so bad about that? Don’t you think you really should come deeper into my web?
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‘the doug problem’: Masochism isn’t healthy! I need to stick to, at the very least, single and on my continent.
I’m currently quite deliriously happy, thank you 😉
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Bhetti
Believe it or not I only want the best for you. I’m not needy Bhetti. I’d rather give to a primo girl like you.
As for masochism, you need and crave some of it, in moderate doses. You gorgeously attractive female you. BUT
From a man who truly loves and values you, and is worth of you.
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Bhetti
…wtf? I did not understand anything you just typed. I did understand the estelle thing. I just wanted to know if london women (for the most part,) speak that way. Ascents (sometimes) on women sound extremely sexy.
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“feministick:
Your probably one of them.”
This blog manages to make me thankful that I don’t look like Heidi Klum. Oh, the dregs I might attract.
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Bhetti
Complete and utter crap.
Not to be too graphic about it.
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doug: Oh my goodness, my mind is actively rejecting you thinking that well of me. I can try and believe that I deserve something good, but I also find that difficult. I will go to sleep and ponder now, like a good girl.
schoolboy: I blame doug for my incoherence (blaming him is fun, look how he rewards me).
I can’t really say if it’s a strong accent or not: there’re many different accents present in London. Cockney, East London, middle class aka unremarkeable(where I place myself roughly), upper class, Northern England accents which sound a bit Scottish and that’s just the English ones. Too much diversity for a ‘most London women’ comment to be made.
The rest was commentary on which chicks roissy must’ve bedded, inspired by your comment to feminist, and also an apology if my reply sounded bitchy.
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That she had to put it on herself. O don’t mess w/condoms much himself. She can do it manually or roll it on w/her lips, doesn’t matter which.
O —
You do remove it yourself, though, don’t you? There have been court cases where paternity + CS have been awarded where mom either (1) retrieved the used condom from waste basket and inseminated herself or (2) offered to flush the condom, and instead inseminated herself in the bathroom.
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Anecdote: David has had sex four times with the Mistress, and only once did David go bareback, and that was the last time, and it was fueled by alcohol and idiocy.
long island
Long Island is a great place to raise kids if you’re middle class and have good discipline. If you allow your children to be wild with no discipline, then they’ll turn out like Lindsay Lohan or Amy Fisher depending on your social class…
Roissy need to impregnate one of those chicks. In 16 years my boy’s gonna want a competent wingman.
Roissy isn’t stupid enough to get a girl pregnant even though it would mesh with his masculine personality to be a serial impregnator. Somehow, in a world without child support, I would imagine Roissy with hundreds of children living with single mothers or married women who cuckold their husbands…
Of course, if I have a kid, your son and my daughter could meet up…
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z – thanks for all the attention you put into that post. So, men have estrogen as well as testosterone? What the hell for?
Jeez Tommy, I have asperger’s and even *I* caught the tongue-in-cheek nature of Chuck’s post.
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Bhetti:
Believe me, I can go in either direction.
I’m TRYING to steer you on a higher, but still sexy course.
You seem determined to go on a full fledged masochism coarse.
Oh I can take you there, big time.
Is that what you want?
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doug: No! Don’t frighten me like that.
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Of course, if I have a kid, your son and my daughter could meet up
If their kid is as cool as Slash from Guns ‘n Roses, we’re talkin’.
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I can’t believe I’m commenting on a post on this topic, but…
I’ve always wondered whether men are as susceptible to getting STDs as women are. Primarily because of the nature of the mm… the acts (men give out fluid, women tend to keep the fluid in). Of course with the acts involving mouths this isn’t the case since there’s a mixing of fluids and both parties keep the fluids “in.”
Is it a feminist conspiracy that condoms are meant to protect both men AND women from STDs? Are women the far more vulnerable, but political correctness makes us all act like men have just as much of a risk if they don’t use condoms?
Now of course men of would want to use condoms to prevent from impregnating a woman who might try to get money out of him for the baby, as many people have mentioned. But diseases, I donno….
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I want to come back to the cuckolding post, as most of the females here avoided answering the question.
Is it wrong for a married woman to have a child with another man, and still trick her husband into think it is his, and draw financial support from the duped man?
The answers so far :
Bhetti said it is wrong.
Marcus Aureliette said it is wrong.
I think Nicole can be trusted to say it is wrong.
Did anyone else answer? I didn’t see it.
Answers still needed from :
Chic Noir (unclear position so far)
Sara I
blue
kim
anony
Who else is a woman here?
The silence is deafening. I am not going to let up on cornering them to answer the question.
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I think quite a few women here will change their handles and pretend to be someone else, rather than face up to having to answer the question of cuckolding and morality.
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“Is it wrong for a married woman to have a child with another man, and still trick her husband into think it is his, and draw financial support from the duped man?”
Clearly, but Roissy is wrong in his assessment that it equates to female rape.
The male equivalent to cuckholding is not rape, but a deadbeat dad- a guy who marries a woman and promises to stick around for the kids and then one day leaves and doesn’t support them. This is a hard thing to do in contemporary America unless a man leaves the country.
The secondary equivalent is a man that marries a woman, has a child with her and supports the child as promised but also cheats and fathers a child with another woman to whom he ends up having to pay child support. This significantly reduces the resources available to the wife and her child and she rightfully expected such resources when she married (that’s what the deal says).
The equivalent to rape for men is rape. Would you rather have a guy rape your ass or have a wife trick you into supporting someone else’s child? I don’t think there’s a clear better answer there, but they are not the same problem.
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Tood bheyyyyaaaaaaaa – mein larki hoon, mujhe notice nahin kiya kya? 😉 lol Why is there any doubt about your question? Dishonesty is wrong. So lying about who the real babydaddy is is wrong. And taking advantage of innocent people is also wrong. Wrong wrong wrong. The end.
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@ Tood
“Is it wrong for a married woman to have a child with another man, and still trick her husband into think it is his, and draw financial support from the duped man?”
Of course it’s wrong. Don’t be absurd.
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mein larki hoon, mujhe notice nahin kiya kya?
You need to try harder to capture my nazar 🙂
The secondary equivalent is a man that marries a woman, has a child with her and supports the child as promised but also cheats and fathers a child with another woman to whom he ends up having to pay child support.
Funny how John Edwards gets away with that, with not a peep out of ‘feminists’.
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Of course it’s wrong. Don’t be absurd.
Most of the men here have taken notice how some women, notable Sara I, anony, and kim, are dancing around the issue and refuse to say it is wrong.
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Actually it’s closer to rape than you think.
Paternity fraud is the non-violent rape of a man.
The core existential horror of rape for women, beyond the horrible violence, is the fact that it takes away from them their choice of mating partner. In times prior to the present, women often got pregnant from rape and the babies ended up being born. This was a horrible violation for women, because it’s pretty much what Roissy describes: a baby is growing inside her where the right of her to choose her sex mate (and DNA contributor) was taken away from her against her will.
Cuckoldry does this to men in a non-violent way. The “violence” of rape is replaced by the “deceit” of cuckoldry, and the result is the same: taking away a man’s right to choose whose children he will invest in and help raise, just as rape takes away (or did before widely available abortion) a woman’s right to choose whose DNA will be in her children.
Both rape and paternity fraud are genetic crimes of the highest order — one imposes a set of DNA on a woman against her will, and the other makes men invest in children who do not have their DNA without their knowledge and consent. Both are serious, existential, genetic violations. In one the means of execution is violence, and in the other it is deceit, but on the genetic/DNA level, these are equivalent crimes.
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“Funny how John Edwards gets away with that, with not a peep out of ‘feminists’.”
That is not true. There are feminists and there are those with some feminist leanings. But in general, I agree with the feminists that don’t bother condemning Edwards because it is better that political figures are viewed as people whose job it is to legislate rather than moral role models. The idea that political figures should be seen as role models or that their personal morals should be considered important feeds into the idea that a politician is a leader- that he is a type of alpha male to be emulated, respected, admired simply because of his power. In principle, a politician should be viewed as an ordinary person in civic service and not a leader above the rest.
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For pete’s sake people! Until there’s a committed relationship and some degree of certainty of being disease free — use condoms!
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@ Tood
I don’t think you’ll find many women, even die-hard feminists, boldly saying “no” to your question, though. Of course everyone will say it’s wrong in theory — but then you wonder why they’re so avidly against, say, mandatory paternity testing.
@ everyone
I wonder what all ya’ll’s feelings on adoption are?
@ lovelysexybeauty
Women are more susceptible to STDs because the (a) vaginal surface is larger and (b) STDs in women are more likely to be asymptomatic (and thus go untreated, leading to serious consequences and/or extra vulnerability to HIV). But I’m not sure how significant the difference is.
@ El Guapo
Agreed. Of course, I’m a birth-control nazi, so…
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Tood – heehehe 😉
By the way I didn’t read through all 1000 comments on that thread. So not sure what sort of discussion went on… If those girls are dancing around the issue, well… I wonder if the diversity of female opinion mirrors the diversity of ideas on morality are in general?
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Re cuckolding:
I also believe it is wrong. I am shocked and disgusted with any woman who does that.
But then I think adultery is wrong full stop.
That’s what you get from a Catholic upbringing I guess.
How could anyone think this is ok?
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I wonder what all ya’ll’s feelings on adoption are?
No issue. That’s parental investment with knowledge and consent of both parents. Completely different.
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in general, I agree with the feminists that don’t bother condemning Edwards because it is better that political figures are viewed as people whose job it is to legislate rather than moral role models.
Bull. They don’t condemn him merely because he is a Democrat. If a Republican did the same, they would never cease to mention it. Hell, they ream the innocent Miss CA for having an opinion that 70% of Americans (and 95% of the people in the world) hold.
At the Presidential level, the person DOES have to be a paragon of morality. The mood of the entire nation is partially tied to the image of the President.
For pete’s sake people! Until there’s a committed relationship and some degree of certainty of being disease free — use condoms!
Indeed. Didn’t we just have a 1000-comment mosh-pit about child-support and paternity fraud? If that isn’t enough to scare a man into using TWO condoms with a swab of cotton in between, nothing is.
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@ novaseeker
Excellent. Of course it’s completely different, but everyone is so up in arms about DNA, so, naturally, I wondered. After all, would you adopt? Or do you just support the parents who would?
@ Aussiegirl
“But then I think adultery is wrong full stop.”
I’m of this mindset, as well. SRSLY.
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I am strange, so I find the idea of cuckholding a beta male with an alpha to be ridiculous. For me, the punishment would be in having to be married and feeling sexually obligated towards a beta male for decades of my life while clinging to memories of the fleeting pleasure of being with an alpha.
I have never had sex with a man whose child I did not want to have. For Femx, consent to sex means “I want your baby” and if I got pregnant, I doubt I would get an abortion. I think I told all my male partners about this before they had sex with me. Thus far the “insisted on wearing a condom” thing hasn’t been a problem. They’re the ones that insist 🙂
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Excellent. Of course it’s completely different, but everyone is so up in arms about DNA, so, naturally, I wondered. After all, would you adopt? Or do you just support the parents who would?
@LILGIRL —
I would adopt, yes, if I were still together with my ex. We discussed it when we were married. To me that is a choice to have another child other than through our own sexual reproduction — it is still our child, because we would have chosen to adopt it, as your parents did for you as well. Adoption is fine, but totally different from cuckolding. It’s fine for parents, men and women alike, to voluntarily agree to raise the offspring of other people –> it is immoral for either of them to be forced to do so.
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“Bull. They don’t condemn him merely because he is a Democrat. If a Republican did the same, they would never cease to mention it. Hell, they ream the innocent Miss CA for having an opinion that 70% of Americans (and 95% of the people in the world) hold.
I have seen any number of feminists come out in some kind of support for Miss CA. The media likes to demonize feminists as unpleasant shrews- it is like comic sport, so the feminists they bring out as representatives are those that will provoke the most negative reaction.
http://www.womanist-musings.com/2009/05/carrie-prejean-sexual-only-when-we.html
Otherwise, liberals don’t really condemn republican politicians for their personal sins (though they have good laughs at them)- they mainly point out the hypocrisy of conservatives because conservatives feel that politicians should be personal moral leaders.
“At the Presidential level, the person DOES have to be a paragon of morality. The mood of the entire nation is partially tied to the image of the President.”
This is a wrong way to be. The president should just be the person most competent at being commander and chief and most competent at leading his party. The mood of the nation should not be tied to this person’s image- why promote logical fallacy as though it is healthy? The political head is not expected to be a moral paragon in every country. It is a particularly American phenomenon when compared to what is accepted in other western countries.
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For me, the punishment would be in having to be married and feeling sexually obligated towards a beta male for decades of my life while clinging to memories of the fleeting pleasure of being with an alpha.
That’s funny since I think being married to a woman who lies about her attraction to me and harbours resentment towards me because she couldn’t marry and have kids with an alpha male is a punishment.
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Feministx:
Sure, but if the question is what can a woman do to a man that most closely resembles rape, then I think the answer arguably is paternity fraud.
If a man is literally raped, then the fundamental damage is loss in social status and the resulting loss in reproductive fitness, and I agree there is no clear answer as to whether it is worse than paternity fraud, but because the perpetrator necessarily is another man, it is irrelevant to the above question as it is not the female equivalent of rape at all but something men do to each other.
And paternity fraud is only nonviolent until it is enforced by the state. When that happens, it is every bit as brutal as rape.
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@ novaseeker
Awesome. Oh, don’t worry, I agree. I just wanted to separate, a little, the “propagating my DNA” factor with the “deceit” factor.
Although, also (if I remember Roissy’s other post correctly), in the event of a “hospital swap,” I wouldn’t want to switch back if it’d been a couple years or so. I mean, knowing is one thing, but after investing some years of work, care, and love in a child…well, they’re my child. I’ll have spent nights awake with them, holding them while they cry, feeding them when they’re hungry, and making sure that they have everything they need. Again — the issue here is not so much DNA as it is deceit. But, I’m sure some feel differently.
@ feministx
I agree, in my world the ideal situation is an alpha empire-builder who will stick by me and our family. And be faithful. Is that a lot to ask? I can hold out.
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Although, also (if I remember Roissy’s other post correctly), in the event of a “hospital swap,” I wouldn’t want to switch back if it’d been a couple years or so. I mean, knowing is one thing, but after investing some years of work, care, and love in a child…well, they’re my child. I’ll have spent nights awake with them, holding them while they cry, feeding them when they’re hungry, and making sure that they have everything they need. Again — the issue here is not so much DNA as it is deceit. But, I’m sure some feel differently.
Well it is a timing issue.
I agree that if a parental relation and bond has been formed, it is bad to upset that, even if paternity/maternity (through switching) turns out to be false down the road. At some point in time the interests of not upsetting the relationship between parents and child outweigh the interests in either parent in paternity/maternity.
This is why I am in favor of routine DNA paternity tests at birth. That way there is no de facto parental relationship formed against the will of the man — he knows whether he is bio-dad or not, and chooses to invest in the child or not. That is the fair solution.
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“I agree, in my world the ideal situation is an alpha empire-builder who will stick by me and our family. And be faithful. Is that a lot to ask? I can hold out.”
They’re in high demand, so hard to keep.
And mine doesn’t even have to be faithful. Or straight. But he has to stick by the family, yes.
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@ novaseeker
Hey man, I’m all with you. Though usually hospital errors happen in the days following the birth, not right after the child comes out of the womb. However, I’d rather have mandatory paternity testing in general, because making it mandatory for all eliminates any possible stigma surrounding it. I suppose it’s not like it will be very hard for my future husband to see that our children are half his, as I he’s got some pretty dominant phenotypes going on (though I suppose I do, as well).
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“as I he’s”
*as he’s
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LILGRL
Yes.
It’s huge.
And I can’t see how you remotely offer enough in return.
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@ doug1
“And I can’t see how you remotely offer enough in return.”
I know. Guess I’ll have to be pretty convincing, eh?
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However, I’d rather have mandatory paternity testing in general, because making it mandatory for all eliminates any possible stigma surrounding it. I suppose it’s not like it will be very hard for my future husband to see that our children are half his, as I he’s got some pretty dominant phenotypes going on (though I suppose I do, as well).
@LILGIRL
Indeed. And because you are a good, faithful woman, you have nothing to fear from these tests. They reinforce your loyalty in your husband’s mind. No threat at all. And, as you rightly say, no stigma if it is a routine test.
Your views are what make me optimistic that this will become, in fact, a routine test at birth.
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feminstix:
Your’re a lying lesbian sack of shit pretending to be bisexual, so you can get married, little you care for the man you’re aiming to totally fuck over:
i’m quite sick of tolerance in your case.
I hope one of the crazed nuts out there hunts you down and kills you.
He will make a better world.
Why should men, with all the force, tolerate men hating and scorning bitches such as you?
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“Firepower
meh, everybody takes for granted you’ve fucked chic noir.
curiosity lies within your shared moments with finefantastic! and whether she was up for the “Washington Wedge””
we just went for sushi. don’t get your knickers in a tangle.
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DA:
Of course, if I have a kid, your son and my daughter could meet up…
Heh
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“I hope one of the crazed nuts out there hunts you down and kills you.”
Exhibit B: Why I hate men. (Exhibit A was Virgin@40).
Apparently I deserve violent gang rape and also being hunted down and killed for expressing sentiments that do not involve wilful harm to anyone on blogs.
Men get so happy when women are successfully intimidated and shamed into acting like cowering self depricating sycophants towards men. And they get so frustrated when a woman remains disinterested in appealing towards men in general.
And Doug, I don’t really understand how you can think I am 100% lesbian. I don’t think everyone else agrees with your impression.
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finefantastic:
we just went for sushi. don’t get your knickers in a tangle.
Was it alpha sushi?
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feministx:
I have never had sex with a man whose child I did not want to have.
Were you orgasmic with them?
P.S. Doug – chill out. Let me pour you a cold one.
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“Were you orgasmic with them?”
Sometimes, but I hoped I could for all of them.
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–BTW, appropos of nothing, I’d like to throw out here that there is something wrong with you and your posters assumptions that testosterone is responsible for manly straights such as agressiveness, bravery, etc.
I have had my testosterone level measured 3 times a number of years apart, by different doctors, and all 3 results were the same. I am outside the normal range — on the high side. Yet, I am not agressive, I don’t have a heavy beard, or deep voice, or huge testicles. I would say the ONLY thing testosterone noticeabley affects is libido. I definitely have a stronger than normal sex drive, and nobody I’ve met is a bigger girl watcher. That’s it, though.
It’d be nice if some of your readers who have actual medical training could discuss the other sex hormones and how they might contribute to “male” characteristics that we loosely ascribe to testosterone.–
Testosterone is weakly correlated with sex drive. Your sex drive likely impacted more by neurotransmitters such as dopamine than by testosterone (however, those two might be connected). Also, based on my use of testosterone and other androgens, I am quite confident in asserting that sperm production is a serious factor in libido. When using exogenous androgens your testicles shrink and suffer diminished functioning in both the sertoli and leydig cells often resulting in lowered libido. The sertoli cells are responsible for sperm production and comprise the bulk of testicular mass. As you come off androgens, the testicles regain size and start pumping out sperm and that is when libido returns. I have done this cycle so many times and my libido is always correlated with the degree of aching in my testicles and their return to size. You write that you don’t have big balls, but you don’t need to have them to have a high libido. You need only testicles that are efficient at sperm production. It is the constant creation of sperm and the need to empty that drives libido (based on my experience). I was always the horniest guy around and could fuck for hours without losing an erection. Then I went on testosterone due to an illness and my balls shrunk and libido has diminished. However, when it does return with a vengeance it is always at times when my testicles have regrown due to a lapse in steroid usage.
So for any men, who can’t fuck for three hours, and feel like they need to, you can try an herbal supplement routine. Try LJ100 at 50mg per day along with 100mg/day of pycnogenol and 3g Acetyl-L-Carnitine. After a week boost the LJ100 to 50mg twice per day and add some IC3. Your balls will grow about 20% and your sperm count will be huge. If you are ambitious you can add 3-5g of Maca 4:1 (add to chocolate muscle milk) and then eat 1/4 celery bunch per day. With that regimen after about two weeks you are going to be blowing some serious goo.
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Maybe you really are a lesbian then.
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“I know. Guess I’ll have to be pretty convincing, eh?”
Be a good woman and you might bring out the alpha in your man.
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Zylonet:
As you come off androgens, the testicles regain size and start pumping out sperm and that is when libido returns.
I think it’s the estrogen rebound, not necessarily spermotogenesis.
You are right that libido and T are only weakly correlated, but the biochemical cascade that exogenous test induces affects many different circuits in the HPTA. You mentioned dopamine, but the Test:Estrogen ratio is the big one.
Also, aromatizing steroids cause higher libido than non-aromatizing.
If you just want to jack up your libido, herbal supplements like Maca are good, but should be cycled.
Cabergoline is a dopaminergic that has great reviews, but is expensive. I have yet to try it.
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It is the constant creation of sperm and the need to empty that drives libido (based on my experience).
This is it.
And it’s also why frequent masturbation tends to make you hornier. Your balls adjust to frequent “emptying” and produce more to reload. Hence higher libido.
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“Maybe you really are a lesbian then.”
huh?
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Your’re a lying lesbian sack of shit pretending to be bisexual, so you can get married, little you care for the man you’re aiming to totally fuck over:
She’s not a lesbian, she’s just Indian.
Allow me to explain :
In India, it is easier to have a conversation about quantum physics than about human sexuality (outside of the 0.1% of the population that is highly modern).
In India, words like ‘feminist’, ‘liberal’, and ‘conservative’ mean very, very different things than they do in the US. Most Indians don’t know this, and no one tells them this, so when interacting with Americans, they often end up conveying quite different messages than what they actually mean.
It is also why so many Indians think they are Democrats when they come to America, despite views on matters of taxes, education, social norms, pre-marital sex, homosexuality, affirmative action, etc. that could be considered very right-wing in the US. Why? Because in India, they were ‘liberal’ (i.e. watched Western movies, let their daughters wear pants and style their hair, occasionally ate non-Indian food like pizzas, etc.). Thus, when they hear the word ‘liberal’ and ‘feminist’ in America, they light up and think ‘that is what I am’, despite the fact that the best way to give Indian parents a heart attack is to inform them that their 11th-grader’s chem-lab partner is gay.
‘Feminists’ in India are still fighting for social acceptance of women pursuing corporate careers, living away from home after college but before marriage, the right to date before marriage, etc. In other words, the issues of 1940s-50s America.
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And it’s also why frequent masturbation tends to make you hornier. Your balls adjust to frequent “emptying” and produce more to reload. Hence higher libido.
So in other words, jerking off induces more horniness which induces an even greater desire to jerk off? I must admit that my masturbatory cycle seems to start off at a high, then slowly works it way downward to the point where the orgasm isn’t worth it, then a brief hiatus, then a return to the highs with the cycle repeating…
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People like feministix are the ultimate enemy of men, and should be destroyed with extreme prejudice. Completely. Destroyed. Completely.
Have at it.
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What feminists want:
1. Screw every Alpha they can snag, without consequences.
2. Make all non-Alpha men gay or sexless drones raising their kids.
3. Be young and beautiful forever.
That is feminism in a nutshell. It’s the stupid maunderings of idiot, upscale mostly White women.
A few days ago, over 80 Afghani girls were poisoned for the crime of learning while female. Meanwhile feminists scream about Beta guys checking them out at work. Or how too many beta males are employed, and how positive it is that many are getting fired to turn the workplace into an all female preserve.
Women give Edwards a pass, even his wife, because he’s a big shot. Blow dried, wealthy, phony (women love all that stuff) … anything guys like Edwards does, women excuse. Same with Clinton, same with Obama (who likely cheated on his wife with some bimbo he sent to the Bahamas). A guy who is fat, sweaty, not sexy or dominant, or has “Joe Average loser” all over him, like Blago, or the Republican gay Senator from the Mountain West with the “Wide Stance” or what have you … women hate that guy.
If Blago had good hair, was taller and better looking, and had done far worse, particularly screwing friends/subordinates wives, women would have loved him. Heck Drew Peterson has tons of college coeds all over him when he was out for years.
The ugly part of this is that modern Western Women respond to pure dominance in men, and don’t much care about anything else. This is a “disease of good times” and the “good news” is that this is likely to be changing rapidly.
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So in other words, jerking off induces more horniness which induces an even greater desire to jerk off? I must admit that my masturbatory cycle seems to start off at a high, then slowly works it way downward to the point where the orgasm isn’t worth it, then a brief hiatus, then a return to the highs with the cycle repeating…
Timing again.
Why is everyone an absolutist. Think!
The more you empty your balls, Dave, the more they produce sperm. And the more sperm in there the hornier you are. The balls adjust their rate of production to your own release schedule — whether in routine sex with a partner, or mastubration. It adjusts. So when you jerk off a lot, your sperm production will increase. In other words, if you have a jerk off schedule of once a week, you will reload for that. If you have jerk off schedule of 3x a day, you will reload for that. So the shorter schedule means you are more horny, because when you are fully “loaded” you are hornier, in terms of your whole system wanting to release — as much as anything to make room in your vas deferens for younger, fresher sperm.
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“People like feministix are the ultimate enemy of men, and should be destroyed with extreme prejudice. Completely. Destroyed. Completely.”
No. No. People like feministx remain powerless for all time without our enablers- people like Roissy, who are also the major source of this “female to male” paternity rape thing. Women don’t go running about seeking casual flings with alphas. Alphas run game on women and use psychological warfare to seduce them physically and emotionally. The paternity rape thing is really an alpha to beta rape more than it is a female to male rape.
You will never destroy people like FemX until you destroy the Roissies. Think of a land like Saudi Arabia- no gaming hot women and no feminism. Both of us would be destroyed there.
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Women don’t go running about seeking casual flings with alphas.
Haha. Sure they do. Ashley Madison. Craigslist. Ahem.
Think of a land like Saudi Arabia- no gaming hot women and no feminism. Both of us would be destroyed there.
Indeed.
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P.S. Doug – chill out. Let me pour you a cold one.
I will enjoy her dead.
Whether or not I paid for it you will have to ponder.
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Girl with furry ass — Insisted on condom.
Wait, roissy found Peter’s dream woman? Peter – he found ‘her’!!!!!!
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Tupac:
–I think it’s the estrogen rebound, not necessarily spermotogenesis.–
I am not so sure. I have had no libido with estradiol between 20-40 and T between 700-1000 (those are ranges for many tests). Those are good numbers where estrogen is balanced with T.
–You are right that libido and T are only weakly correlated, but the biochemical cascade that exogenous test induces affects many different circuits in the HPTA. You mentioned dopamine, but the Test:Estrogen ratio is the big one.–
Yeah for some men I think the T:E thing is definitely big. However, there are a bunch of us for whom that balancing act does not work despite it being chemically identical to natural levels. On the men’s health board at Meso, you will find a ton of dudes with balanced E, but no libido. HCG definitely helps, but it requires good dosing and a ton of Arimidex.
–If you just want to jack up your libido, herbal supplements like Maca are good, but should be cycled.==
Definitely add the ALCAR, Pycnogenol, Celery and LJ100.
–Cabergoline is a dopaminergic that has great reviews, but is expensive. I have yet to try it.–
It rocks. I match it with Yohimbine HCI and Betaine Anhydrous to push my luck.
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“Aggressive, powerful men stimulate a woman’s primitive instincts. Humans have only lived within civilization for 5-10 percent of their history. 90 percent of that history was spent in stone-age primitivism, a primitivism typified by transient males and by the “family” being the mother and her children. Without patriarchy and its male investment in society, it stands to reason that human reproduction was, for a good chunk of that history, based on murder and rape. The selective pressure on this existing population probably produced female offspring who would be receptive to alpha males who were very good a killing their rivals and taking their women. For 10k years, civilization has controlled this instinct, but it has not eliminated it. With civilization breaking down, this womanly instinct is now re-asserting itself.”
– http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/013174.html
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i wish obama would double up on the unemployment insurance so I could justify a fresh cycle of test p, EQ, and finally a four week crescendo with winny. fuck clomid; i will squat and deadlift my lumbar cartilage into inducing plenty of new testosterone. consider this sacrifice as my gift to the core price index.
i once got a first-person upskirt (technically, ‘umbro’ shorts) of a girl with a furry ass. did not pursue. funny that this was over ten years ago and i still remember my emotional sequence: curiosity, disbelief, disgust… all within ten seconds.
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“Definitely add the ALCAR, Pycnogenol, Celery and LJ100. ”
read this on christian XXX’s blog last year: kieran lee eats celery ALL day, to help blow bigger loads. the author recommends the muscle milk brand banana creme ready-made protein drink. personally, i have found the myogenix brand powder protein to yield optimal splashdown quantities.
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Interesting discussion, I’ve already weighed in on the topic early on in the thread in case anyone is curious to know my views.
Of course, people are free to do as they wish, but I have no intention in the least to tamper, in any way, w/my virility. In fact I say, the more the merrier, for it is my firm intention to bust the maximum amount of nuts allowable by a human male over the course of a lifetime. I’m very selective as to who I play with, which explains why I’ve never contracted any STDs, and again unless the gal in question specifically requests and puts the condom on me herself, it is tacit that I will be feeling all of her guts.
Sex is an inherently risky affair, as much of life is; one has to weigh the risks and act appropriately.
Dave Alex, your posts are quite interesting; you have made your views quite well known, about your displeasure about being yoked to a Woman who doesn’t love you and worse, is only using you monetarily. This is quite understandable and in fact I share your concerns-however, the big difference between us is that I actively seekout the sexual company of Women, while you expressly do not.
Therefore, in light of the aforementioned facts, wouldn’t it be illogical for you to continue to spend so much time discussing an issue that, as far as you’re concerned, and by your own admission, is in fact a “non issue” (kinda goes along with the “non date” concept you seem to so proudly espouse)?
Please explain?
The Obsidian
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ob:
“it is my firm intention to bust the maximum amount of nuts allowable by a human male over the course of a lifetime. I’m very selective as to who I play with, which explains why I’ve never contracted any STDs”
these consecutive sentences are incongruous. the economist in me prohibits this from going unnoticed.
in my above story on this thread from 7:04pm, i actively AVOIDED busting nuts to a perceivable advantageous outcome.
not to be a grammar whore here, but if you qualified some of your blanket statements like this, you’d provoke fewer AFC white guys when you espouse racially-focused perspectives.
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Cannon,
I’m afraid I don’t follow your argument; please explain and clarify?
O
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Eman —
Hunter-Gatherers, which humankind lived in from it’s emergence as behaviorally modern around 70-50K years ago, to around 11,000 years ago (dawn of Agriculture) was “flat” and very much restrictive of the Alpha male.
Any man could stick a spear up the backside of any other man, and simply walk away. What mattered was how many kin you had around you, to back you up. And even the BEST hunter could go unlucky.
Which made it very difficult to support more than one wife, and made selection of a wife paramount in not creating, well a blood feud over a woman. Which could get the “Big Man” and all his family killed in the ultimate downside. [Murder and rape were a part and parcel of Hunter-Gatherers, but society was mostly “flat.”]
Preference for “Big Men” is mostly the produce of Agriculture and Nomadic herders, the only ones with enough spare resources for both polygamy and the ability to construct patronage networks based on resource allocations to protect the polygamy. This is the real birth of the Alpha Male.
We know a lot about hunter-gatherers. Almost none of them had widespread polygamy — it’s simply a lack of resources.
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not really an argument playboy. simply, if you want to bust the most nuts humanly possibly, you will not exercise exacting standards. if you exercise exacting standards, you will not bust as many nuts as humanly possible.
re: race tangents
probably just my bad here. obviously i’m harboring some unfinished sentiment from previous threads. it is bothersome to me when the topic of a fat bitch jumping into a zoo cage in europe, to “save the bears” results in you saying “damn, why do white people act like that?” my indignation stems from the double standard, as the correct question should be ‘why do people of above-average socioeconomic standing act like that?’ there is an answer for this that ignores their race, of course.
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Hunter-Gatherers, which humankind lived in from it’s emergence as behaviorally modern around 70-50K years ago, to around 11,000 years ago (dawn of Agriculture) was “flat” and very much restrictive of the Alpha male.
Any man could stick a spear up the backside of any other man, and simply walk away. What mattered was how many kin you had around you, to back you up. And even the BEST hunter could go unlucky.
Which made it very difficult to support more than one wife, and made selection of a wife paramount in not creating, well a blood feud over a woman. Which could get the “Big Man” and all his family killed in the ultimate downside. [Murder and rape were a part and parcel of Hunter-Gatherers, but society was mostly “flat.”]
Preference for “Big Men” is mostly the produce of Agriculture and Nomadic herders, the only ones with enough spare resources for both polygamy and the ability to construct patronage networks based on resource allocations to protect the polygamy. This is the real birth of the Alpha Male.
We know a lot about hunter-gatherers. Almost none of them had widespread polygamy — it’s simply a lack of resources.
Good points.
This is wisdom.
The reality is that our species did not exist in a highly stratified way until agriculture emerged.
The key point is that stratification was less. So less sexual competition. Some tribes had a high degree of sex competition, hence matriarchy and polygamy. Others had more egalitarian norms and more spreading of genes. But th reality, either way, is that pair bonds were the norm, even though men and women alike broke them.
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O:
i am critical of you only because i respect your opinions and assign them some value. there are plenty of commenters on this board i skip reflexively, and many comments i wish i’d never read, because i am more stupider for having done so.
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glad i aint the only one whos banged “girl with smelly ass”- things u do (or girls u do) when pissed.
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Cannon,
No problem man, alays able and willing to have a sitdown w/reasonable folk, even if we disagree. That’s cool.
I see where you’re coming from, but I think its very possible to take say, just two Women steady, and bust all kinds of nuts up in their guts. Heck, you can even jerkoff a lot (Dave Alex) and bust lots of nuts, lol. But again, I see your point. I guess it makes sense if you’re just “batting for average” so to speak, but I’m more interested in getting actual runs batted in on the board if you follow me. So, I’m not inclined to take as many swings at bat that others would. Sure, this results in me getting a lower batting average, but it also results in more poon on average, more quality poon (for example, I ain’t NEVER tapped a smelly piece that reminded one of crabs-the kind you eat not the STD) and for longer periods of time, since I don’t do Pump & Dump stuff. In fact most of the Women I’ve been with longer than many people’s marriages, now that I think about it, lol. Its just my way to go Long & Deep on a Woman.
As for the racial comments and the White Polar Bear Lady, lol, don’t sweat it. Race will always be a hot topic because, as Sailer rightly points out, that’s about family. And Human Beings are an inherently Tribal lot. This is why, for example, you White boys just can’t get that worked up about the fact that the number one beneficiary of Affirmative Action EVER, has been White Women, and that you, Cannon, have more reason to fear of losing your job to Heather or Amy than to Rashid or Leroy-but because Heather and Amy are family to you in a racial sense, its all good. Leroy and Rashid ain’t family, so any threat they may pose, real or perceived, has to be addressed.
So I can dig it.
Thanks for the kudos too, Cannon. Much appreciated.
O
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Cannon,
OK, just read your “story” above, and I gotta say, that I was always fairly perceptive, and just plain lucky enough, to pick up on what I considered “slut cues” rather early on, and could decide whether I wanted to go further w/said girl or not. If I got the impression that she was just a bit too friendly with the guys, etc, then I’d lose interest pretty quickly. Again, I’m STD free and have been the whole of my sexing life-since my late teens-so I gotta be doing something right.
But that’s just me.
O
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Im a medstudent, i have seen several HIV positive people, they look perfectly average normal people, most HIV infected people i saw was mom’s in pediatrics, their kid was clean, but the mom contracted it from their husband fooling around with prostitutes or god knows what.
if the person is not a slut, doesn’t mean he/she didn’t slept with one, that then had several hundreds of partners,
Im conservative i had few partners, but i had one boyfriend that had a massive past of partners, of course i want to check him for HIV,
One can always use pill for unwanted pregnancies but how do you protect yourself from HIV?? with condom, not by judging someone appearance. thanks god its hard to contract HIV but the risk is there..
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O:
I am also STD-free since my late-teen deflowering. “so i (ALSO) gotta be doing something right.”
Regarding your two lovers: I know about them because I follow this thread every day. When you say that you fuck as much as possible, I know which interactions you are alluding to. My point to you is, regarding blanket statements, that when you make the claim that you want to bust as many nuts as possible, scholars such as the gentleman you refer to as “Apeman” will assume that you would fuck a 1 if separated from a rotatation of two 10’s for more than 24 hours. By your own words, this would not be incorrect.
Say, hypothetically, both of your women are out of the picture. Dead or moved to Asia to be courted by one billion betas. Now you haven’t had sex in two weeks, even four weeks. Do you take the plunge and fuck someone with “slut cues?” If you don’t, you’re not busting as many nuts as possible.
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O:
Regarding affirmative action: I am very aware of its beneficiaries. Believe me, I hate white women as much as any earmarked misogynist. Black and other minority women are generally not interesting to me. (Sadly, I can reflect on my true preferences through the pattern of my pursuits, and that answer is a four letter J-word, a.k.a. the latest cam’ron chorus “cookies and some apple j____!) Perhaps THAT is my genetic directive!
I recently read that 80% of this recession’s job losses have been male.
On another tangent, I once tried to blog about how this recession is a net benefit to blacks in the job market. As usual, I got too drunk/bored to finish it, but it might be worth revisiting. I do maintain exacting standards.
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Damn! That totally shut up Chic Noir for the entire day.
I guess it must be true — Roissy penetrated Chic Noir.
And without condom?
Good God!
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Cannon do I infer correctly that you are laid off?
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and faz at 6.29 good call.
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no need to infer: i haven’t worked in almost a year!
regarding FAZ: i told all my email buddies to get in on friday at around $4.50. today, one guy asked me if i thought it would drop again because he hadn’t bought in yet – i told him i thought he should buy now and double down if finance rallied later this month.
in any case, it is pissing into the wind. i would buy a stock for $4, $6, or $30 if i believed it was a $60 play. FAZ could seriously top $120 by year end in my mind.
meanwhile, i love this advent of leveraged funds presence. i’m trying to focus on some commodities and would welcome suggestions. the obvious play against world currency is gold, double leveraged with DGP. i have read that silver is more fluent. i’m willing to think “outside the box” and pull some shit like “orange juice” and “milk” futures out my ass.
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Come on over here to war bro the water is fine. Just look at sand all day but hell what else ya gonna do.
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120 jesus christ
allright I will toss some on then and hold
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i would like to create ETNs for “feminism” and “radical islamic extremism”. imagine the SWPL capital you could manipulate at issuance!
i would trade these on the rogue, godless, African stock exchange that i hypothesized with six months ago – that is only open on saturdays and sundays (to give me something to do when i get drunk on the weekends).
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Roissy has apparently blocked all the lawyer chicks out of list and mind. He He He
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Check flr it jumped 90 percent in a couple days last year just reported 50 percent earnings jump 1st quarter.
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Cockey sounds awful, and so does the New York accent. Most of you wouldn’t know it, but Helsinki Finnish also sounds terrible. What is it with the biggest national metropolies that makes listening to their dialects like torture?
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I don’t mind cockney but the prim “BBC-English” drives evil chils up my spine. Especially when spoken by women.
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American white people accents I’ve been around:
Standard Mid-Atlantic American English — which is what I speak, though with a hint of a Slavic accent, which makes me enounciate more clearly.
Baltimore accent — spoken by white working classes in East Baltimore and old white suburbs south of the city. “Gwin down d’oocean, hon?”
Boston accent — “paaahk my caaah”
New York / Brooklyn accent — does it come from Italian immigrants? “How YOO! dooin?”
New Jersey accent — related to NY accent; “you’se from noow joysey?”
Southern coastal — I like it, but for its annoying grandiloquence
Appalachian/Hillbilly — drawly, manly, no-nonsense; one of my favorites
Texas accent — related to Southern, but more macho/less gayly grandiloquent
Cajun (south LA, east TX) — can anyone understand what these guys are saying? “EEEbdy knws dat!”
Upper Mid West accent — like Sarah Palin talks; she’s cool, but the accent is annoying; I associate it with prim liberal soccer moms in minivans
Minnesota accent — related to the above; but more canadianish “I’m from Minnesooooota”
(the midwest MO-NE stretch is one I’m not too familair with)
Southern Califronia — valley girl “omigod!”
N. California to Seattle — slow, dumb-sounding, like you’re perpetually stoned.
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PA:
I grew up in NJ and used to wield an indistinguishable accent that was best described as “mildly autistic.” I would annunciate all my syllables and speak slowly and deliberately, even through high school.
My former college housemate started dating my platonic female friend from high school. He was back in the city last weekend and had me meet them out. At some point late in the night, after many vodka drinks, he blurted out, “Hey, you know what I think is great? You have hooked up with every single one of these girls!” (that his gf was introducing to him as mutual friends)
Nowadays, I am trying to channel more of my ‘high school’ style aura across the board. Not simply speaking like a retard, but valuing the presence of my prose. woooohooooo
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feministx:
Women don’t go running about seeking casual flings with alphas.
Oh, my ribs!
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Black accents I have been around, while watching “Dark Knight” in Brooklyn Heights last summer:
(when Bruce Wayne’s ex-girlfriend kisses Harvey Dent)
“Why she do that?”
“Who her man is?”
Impulsively, I would have been willing to sacrifice myself to burn that building to the ground.
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“Is it wrong for a married woman to have a child with another man, and still trick her husband into thinking it is his, and draw financial support from the duped man?”
of course it’s wrong. Did somebody actually say that it isn’t wrong? I think the bigger question is MPT, which I don’t really see a problem with. I can’t imagine any reason why a married woman would object – I agree with the poster that said just throw it in with all the other random pregnancy tests women have to take.
something that has been bothering me about all these posts is the assumption that the man is the provider and will be swindled out of his earnings. I make more money than my husband. I don’t know any couple where the woman is making significantly less than their partner. I don’t know if it’s my age (29), childlessness, because we are in DC or what, but the assumption that all the men are the bread winners irks me.
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Cannon,
LOL, just read your first post and your concerns about Apeman. Let’s address his Monkey Self:
OK, so let’s say that for some reason Brown Sugah and The Busty Nurse are in the rearview mirror. Does the Obsidian then go to scraping the Poontang Barrell in short order, as the Monkey Man so strongly asserts the bulk and mass of Black Men do?
Not hardly.
Now, I ain’t gonna front, I’ve seen my fair share of dry spells just like the vast majority of Men here (read: ALL), but, and I know this is a really hard concept for some to wrap their heads around, but some of us Brothas do indeed have some sembalance of a standard when it comes to who we’ll take to bed.
For me, I tend toward more demure gals, in terms of their demeanor and the like. True, no one’s a mindreader and you can’t tell everything by looks and observation alone, granted-but if you apply a bit of commonsense and use the head sitting on top of your shoulders, you can steer clear of most of the trouble that exists out there in this world.
I’ve always been a bit discriminating in terms of who I’d bestow the Blessings of the Good Wood upon; it is not to be wasted on the uncouth, unworty, ungrateful or otherwise homely females.
So, what would I do? I would go out and rebuild, like every Man does when faced w/a setback of one kind or another. And in relatively short order, I’d be back to busting the maximum number of nuts possible by a human male in more than one Woman on the regular.
Next reply coming up…
O
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“”””””””””””””Kam,
something that has been bothering me about all these posts is the assumption that the man is the provider and will be swindled out of his earnings. I make more money than my husband. I don’t know any couple where the woman is making significantly less than their partner. I don’t know if it’s my age (29), childlessness, because we are in DC or what, but the assumption that all the men are the bread winners irks me.””””””””””””””””””””””
Yea but after you pop out some midjets you will be making less if you decide to stop working full time and just chill rather than run some shit. Of course I suppose that is why you are here looking to find man who makes more than you lol that is what people are saying woman need a man that is more successfull than they are. Why it is getting tougher for bitches who make too much money the men they want are not really compatible with them. If they are self made woman.
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So, Roissy, if you got 88 Lines about 44 Women, then who’s your Amaranda?
And don’t tell me you don’t dig that song.
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I wouldn’t fuck a chick without a condom who was okay with me fucking them without a condom on the first night. Unless they’re married, then maybe.
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O:
regarding as many nuts as humanly possible: i understand your sentiment, but you must see your incongruency by now. if you waste ANY time qualifying a girl to meet your standards of constant sexing, you will in turn exhaust your window to bust as many nuts as possible. even with cyclical or sinusoidal capacities of nut-busting in mind, you cannot qualify and fuck at the same time.
if you can fuck 60 times a month and you wait a month to seduce two new partners, you will not fuck them 120 times the next month to make up for your chastity.
i have just reflected that this is an absolutely retarded argument to be having.
however, i have one more example. this weekend, i will be travelling with my parents to a wedding. i will only know my parents, the bride, her sister, her parents, and two other old folks. however, i am presuming (hoping) that some talent will be present. i’ve decided to use my PUA skills as usual, but rather than focusing on the hottest chicks, as i do when out in nyc, i will be keying in on the “sure thing” this weekend. i will prioritize certainty over quality because the total utility is greatest. (conventionally, “dating” an 8 trumps “dating” a 7, but there will be no “dating” going on this weekend – it’s one and done!)
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88 Lines about 44 Women
Good call! Alternate title for this post: “To all the Girls I Loved Before”
Heh. When I first heard the Iglesias/Nelson version of that song in middle school, I assumed that they are singing about the girls they had crushes on.
A few years later I realized that the song is a little present to all the whorish groupies they pumped & dumped. And a joke on their current husbands:
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PA:
Now now, PA, you can’t say there wasn’t a touch of wistfulness and joy to that laundry list. Like a guy ticking off his scars. Or instead of counting notches, he’s counting Polaroids or something like that (ain’t that a tip-off about me). You know, complete stories instead of just Penthouse letters.
I mean if I were a PUA (which I ain’t), that’s the style I’d like to do it.
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Cannon,
Yea, sounds like a plan! Listen, all Women don’t intend to marry every Man they meet; just remember, try to be discreet, don’t be drawin’ when you make your move, that’ll put her at ease and be more inclined to do the deed. As for “standards” they’re important, but as you noted you have to be flexible when the circumstances warrant. In this case, yea, you’re not looking for something longterm, but you want something “hitable”; me, I’m thinking a solid 6-7 does the trick.
As for our “busting nuts” debate, I’m with you, this is kinda gettin’ silly, LOL. The bottomline is, you don’t wanna be the guy who’s part of the 60% of ALL Men who ever lived who get NO PUSSY AT ALL. If you can at least say you’re getting some 12 times a year-once a month-that alone puts you ahead of the pack, because most Men walking around don’t get laid at all, or at best very infrequently. So, for me, the fact that I’m getting some on the regular and have for years, is enough for me.
O
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here is some video footage of the Day Game i attempted to run last weekend. as you will observe, it didn’t go so well. i started off cocky-asshole to solidify value and attraction, but was unable to establish comfort and qualifiers. seduction was ultimately out of the question.
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PA,
I know lots of people from London and around London, UK. To me, these people sound normal. I have relatives in Vancouver, BC. As far as I recall from visiting them a couple of decades ago, their speech did not have as many strong Canadianisms like some of the ice truckers in the TV show. I have a friend from Belfast (Protestant) and his accent sounds pretty neutral to me, too. I know a white guy from South Africa who lives and works in Finland. He is bilingual (Afrikaans/English). His English accent sounds exotic and not annoying at all.
I fully agree that Sarah Palin’s Upper Midwest accent sounds annoying. I’m also familiar with the Californian valley girl accent. Terrible.
I’m guessing the grandiloquent Southern Coastal accent that you mentioned owes it’s grandiloquence to being influenced by the Southern English cavalier aristrocrats who moved to the South in the colonial period.
Cockney is terrible. Please outlaw the glottal stop.
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Any frequent posters here may want to check out that video it’s called “in an apatow world” and it addresses the fact that all these ugly loser beta guys get hot chicks in judd apatow’s movies.
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Cannon,
Didn’t view the “day game” video, but from what you described, as a rule, I usually don’t do the whole “cocky funny” thing until I get to know the gal a bit. Coming right out the gate w/it doesn’t seem to be all effective I’ve found, but hey, that’s me. I’ve found being more direct usually gets the job done, when I’m the one approaching/pursuing. Usually though, its the other way around, she’s pursuing me, at which point cocky funny has a better chance of being effective.
Although I don’t deny its effectiveness, I’m not a fan of “asshole game”. Just not my steez man. Now, that doesn’t mean that I’m a doormat, I am most certainly not-I just don’t see the point in being unecessarily uncouth and abrasive.
O
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“”””””Asian girl of painfully tight hole — Insisted on condom.””””””””””””
K ahh gonna need address of this chick for scientific purposes.
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Cannon,
Keeping in line w/the topic of the thread, yesterday as I got back from taking care of business, I discovered that somebody on the block had been preparing and cookin’ up a big pot of crabs, and the aroma reminded me of one big North Philly Pussy-not very good, I might add. It brought to mind Roissy’s account of his encounter w/the Lady w/the Smelly Snapper.
Hmm.
In other news, as far as the current layoffs and the like are concerned, Whiskey’s most recent blog post deals with this very cogently. I’ll just add that whatever happens to be the case for White Men we can expect to be doubly so for Black Men, especially when things go bad. For example, unemployment figures among Black Men are at least double that of White Men, and that was *before* the Recession started.
So, I do not know where you got the information that suggests that Black Men are and can be doing better in the current economic downturn, from where I sit I can’t tell.
O
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“88 Lines about 44 Women”
No. That was 88 lines about 56 women with 29 (52%) no condom.
No condom% in groups
. 100% married or with boyfriends
. 100% bartenders
. 100% blacks
. 100% ugly and/or smelly
. 60% eastern europeans
. 50% asians
. 50% french
. 0% artsy and/or creative profession
. etc.
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. 46% blog groupies
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O:
The video was just a joke.
As a rule of thumb, the hotter the girl, the stronger the negs.
I am targeting a 7 or even a 6 for this weekend. Therefore, sincerity will be at a premium. As the night progresses, I may resort to the Paul Janka-style 10 second decision method, something like… “Hi, my name is Cannon. I live in Brooklyn. I’ve known the bride for fifteen years when our fathers worked together. You seem like you’d be fun to hang out with. What are you doing later tonight?” I will have worked the adults in the room already to establish my social proof.
If I flip that line in subtle pinstripes with a crisp pocket square, I figure I should be fine for some coatroom lovin’. If I can kick that to three chicks, my success should be as certain and death and taxes. In rural Maryland, my fresh “Staten Island Blowout” fade will be all the more irresistible.
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In rural Maryland
Southern MD, eastern shore, Baltimore County, or panhandle?
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Cannon,
Yea, sounds like you got a solid gameplan. Its always good to move out as if you’re going to get laid that day-may not happen, but you’re prepared. Work the room as if you’re running for POTUS, or one better, as if you ARE POTUS. The sharp duds wil certainly help “magnetize!” attention and build excitement. You take it from me, it’s always easier to pull chicks when they’re inclined to pursue you than the other way around. To do that though, you kinda have to be the center of gravity-the sharpest dressed, the most interesting, the sexiest/prettiest, the most confidence, etc. Tall order I know, but I have faith in you, son.
Just one thing-please be sure to avoid the one pitfall of many a White Brother-do not, do not, do not, wear busted shoes w/your hookup; it will kill it. Women pay attention to things like that, make sure your kicks are up to par-good heels, nice shine, etc. I’m telling you, a sharp pair of shoes can make you or break you when it comes to Game. Trust me.
Carry on…
O
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quick hit regarding blacks in the economic downturn: i wish i was lucid enough to figure my derivatives, as i’d write this post right now. the epiphany will probably come to me midstroke with the 3 i wind up having sex with at this wedding. without the definitive math, consider this:
– blacks are more likely to be unemployed than whites in general because of their lower mean socioeconomic status.
– layoffs will be ‘color-blind’
– subsequent hirings during a recovery will still use minority quotas as required by law. recession will displace jobs that are held by experienced, disproportionately characteristic whites – recovery will insert the government-mandated minority when refilling those jobs. it will be an upward pull throughout various positions of sophistication.
again, regrettable that i don’t have my formulas in check. i will get back on this.
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naa pupu the asian chick got to include china so talking 66 percent.
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Southern MD, eastern shore, Baltimore County, or panhandle?
Southern Maryland: effectively begins south of US Rt. 50. Waldorf area recently swelled up with DC commuters during the housing boom, but other than that, it’s The South once you hit LaPlata. White tobacco farming a strong tradition, and black pockets with farming traditions around Waldorf & LaPlata. My kind of place: tons of huge good ol’ boys and big pickups.
Eastern Shore: self-explanatory. Another world, even along the Rt 50 corridor to Ocean City. The flora, especially along the Chesapeake, is near-shy of tropical. And dawm humid. Crab country. Equally rich in black and white/redneck history.
Baltimore County: better described more broadly as North Chesapeake. Rolling hills with Pennsylvania farmers, and appearances of Lancaster County Amish. Mostly white, exurban yuppies are a new demographic. Along the I-95 corridor, small-time white-trashy (not intended pejoratively).
Panhandle: Begins at northern Montgomery County. Frederick got its influx of housing boom commuters, but past that city, it’s white, Scotch-Irish West Virginia.
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O:
good looking on shoe-game. i will likely be sporting a fresh pair of rockports – not the most dazzling, but definitely still glossy and not a contrast to the rest of my formal wear. will also pack my square toe alfani loafers for the rehearsal dinner, but these would require a shining before making the A-list.
PA:
greater Cambridge area; not sure if that’s “eastern shore” or “panhandle”. i think the reception is on a farm or some such swpl nonsense. you are welcome to crash the wedding and hit on the second-most slutty girl.
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Gunslingergregi:
Asian:
1. Chinese girl — Insisted on condom.
2. Asian girl of indeterminate origin — No condom.
3. Asian girl of painfully tight hole — Insisted on condom.
4. Indian girl — Insisted on condom for blowjob (!) but not for sex (!!).
It was hard to classify the Indian girl for several reasons.
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Cambridge, MD: eastern shore. 60 miles shy of Ocean City.
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that is an eloquent description of maryland. here is my corresponding review of nj.
north jersey: sucks, full of guidos and meth-heads, not that there’s anything wrong with that
central jersey: totally awesome and wholly desirable
south jersey: worst of all, might as well be south dakota
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Cannon,
You started off on the right foot in your analysis, but landed all wrong, in true White folks can’t dance/Rainman on the 1 & 3 beat fashion, LOL.
You’re right that Black Men tend to have a lower sociometric status than White Men comparitively speaking in the main, however layoffs will hardly be “colorblind”; again, check the unemployed stats, Black Men are invariably disporportionately impacted moreso than White Men, whom we all agree, have hit White Men particularly hard this time around.
O
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I’m not counting indian chick as asian he he he
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Maryland’s eastern shore, along the Chesapeake, also has a rich maritime tradition, with a cultural outpost on the mainland in Annapolis.
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Nice desciptions of Maryland above … been around here most of my life!
I was just out in Salisbury area for a mini-triathlon a few weeks ago. Drove through Cambridge – not much going on there. Pretty country though. There were a few suprisingly cute girls working in nothing jobs in gas station, hotel, etc.
Bike (15 mi) and run (3 mi) were easy for me- swim (1/2 mi) kicked my butt. If I ever do it again I’ll have to really ramp up the upper-body aerobic activity, as opposed to weightlifting(anaerobic).
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O:
“Color-blind” layoffs are more likely in, say, the financial sector, where my mind usually rests. When manufacturing jobs are hit by recession, the socioeconomic status of the average employee will be inclined to hurt blacks more than whites, proportionately. obviously my assertion requires more follow-through, but i am not convinced that it is wrong.
meanwhile, here’s a fun study to bat around about black CEOs:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30642824/
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Ah, Salisbury, MD. Watch out for the speedtrap along 50 westbound to Ocean City.
Early 1990s, banged a hot but evil little 19 y.o. bitchslut in a rented grouphouse after a party. I was slightly older. (Salisbure State U. is a big presence in the town)
Her girlfriends didn’t like me. Instead, they adored this mysterious 35 y.o. guy who swooped and banged her at his convenience. Made her cry when he didn’t call. On two occasions at this party, I was kissing her, her girlfiend saw us, and dragged her away form me.
Another dude and I were jousting for her at that party. And I got her. Despite my age-mate rival. And her cockblocking girlfriends.
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Cannon,
Yea as a rule I work w/square front shoes, but that’s mainly because though I have a small foot (8-9 depending on the maker/cut), I also have a wide foot, the result of many years of wearing sneakers, and somewhat big toes. So its a matter of comfort for me. Those pointy-toed Aladdin shoes that are all the rage, you know the roachkillers? Can’t do that.
As for keepin em shined, that is a must. Last time I copped some shoes outta Aldo I grabbed up some of those gloss thingys-you simply buff your kicks up w/those & you’re good to go. Women LOVE Shiny Shit, especially shoes. It almost puts them into a trancelike state, in fact.
Try it with your ladyfriend this weekend…
O
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Yea as a rule I work w/square front shoes
One fellow shoe-connoseour to another: can’t go wrong square fronts. Pointed tips are presently unfashionable.
What is fashionable, and a favorite of mine, is the duck-billed tips. I have a reddish-brown pair.
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Tupac, your theory that she can’t be all lesbian because she isn’t butch
That was never my contention.
I said she was bi because she was avoiding betas, but feeling sexual response to super-dominant alphas. She seemed to merely be a magnified version of a regular chick, except she wasn’t suckering some dumbass beta into a marriage and going straight for the alpha gold.
But the way she recently described her sexual response in those cases where she did sleep with men indicated to me that perhaps she really wasn’t all that into it. Which is why I told her “maybe you really are a lesbian then.”
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I’ve never understood where these assumptions (below) come from:
Without patriarchy and its male investment in society, it stands to reason that human reproduction was, for a good chunk of that history, based on murder and rape. The selective pressure on this existing population probably produced female offspring who would be receptive to alpha males who were very good a killing their rivals and taking their women.
I get that without “patriarchy”, murder and rape must have played a large part in human reproduction – although I don’t know if there were any human societies that did not have some form of patriarchy, I imagine that war and rape must still have played a large part in their establishment.
So far so good. What I really don’t get is how the “selective pressure” imposed on this existing population produced female offspring who would be receptive to alpha males, the rapists who were good at killing their rivals and taking their women. Why don’t I get it? Well, I don’t see how an act in which a woman has no choice – being raped – can produce female offspring who choose alpha-rapist type males to father their children.
Most people who comment on this issue always seem to imply that somehow the fact that women select alphas for mates determines that more alpha males will be born. But women who bear children as the result of rape don’t choose alphas; they have alphas thrust upon them, as it were.
I mean, I suppose it’s possible that having (rapist) alpha males for fathers might lead women to want alpha males for mates. But what difference would that make, in a society in which rape is one of the major factors in the production of offspring? In such conditions women’s preference for alphas, whatever its cause, is irrelevant. Offspring will be born to the strongest/most powerful men because they imposed themselves on the women, not because the women chose them.
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1. An idle reflection.. A man could do well to try Kimonos. They are thin, and they seem to lack an icky latex like aspect to them. Kimonos are groovy, they are made by the Japanese, consummate perfectionists that they are. Simply a suggestion.
2. Roissy, though this has been asked before, do you ever feel like you are dancing with the devil with a loaded Glock? If so how do you mitigate the risks when going bareback?
During my short career as a care-free libertine I had certain scares that caused me to, eh, re-evaluate the wisdom of condom avoidance. Given that most are simply too tight and uncomfortable, or tend to simply slip off mid-frisky-coitus, the consequences of either disease or untimely bastardry seemed hardly worth the delightful upside.
The very thought of going bareback is a delight, but rational calculation of my self interest.. and the self interests of my future progeny, and the soul-killing grind of random promiscuity with women I even need to use a condom with, led me to the question “is it worth it?” I reached my own conclusions, but I’m interested in yours.
Obsidian, ditto, I feel what you’re saying. Frankly condoms are kind of dehumanizing, they are barriers in the middle of the most physically intimate experiences and acts between two people. It’s like caressing someone’s cheeks with sanitized rubber gloves. The necessity for “safe sex” – to me – illustrates much of what’s wrong with our contemporary romantic and sexual scene. The alienation of needing sanitized barriers in love making or fucking is a metaphor for how damn sanitized our society has become.
To the one guy who thought this to be a unique trait of black men, don’t be facetious. Most of the white guys I know despise condoms too. Middle class, and working class guys, all alike. Some don’t mind it, most realize they are sane necessities, but most men I’ve met don’t like them.
Sanitation of life’s raw experiences… our society even sanitizes death, pickling our loved ones and stuffing them in $5000 coffins, or cremating them in spotless facilities. The experience of death’s unpleasantries brings a perspective to life that is very valuable. They should bring back living room wakes and old fashioned Victorian mourning doors.
But to each his own, it’s just a question.
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Kamal,
Thanks for the input man. I can relate to what you said about death; if you are aware of the Islamic view of things, death is accepted as part of the great circle that is life. Though I’ve yet to do it myself, I’ve been told that preparing a body for its final resting place is a very sobering, yet deeply profound experience.
But what I have done, is delivered the eulogies of my mom, dad and grandmother; I also orchestrated and raised monies for my mom’s funeral, and I guess that’s about the next best thing to preparing a body for burial yourself. It gave me a very deep perspective on this thing called life.
As for “safe(er) sex”, to each his own, I never knock any Man for what they wanna do, but I simply cannot enjoy sex for real while wrapped up in latex or whatever material is envogue at the moment. I have to be all up in her guts, feel her walls, merge w/her completely, or for me the whole thing is pointless. But that’s just me.
O
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Kamal appeared out of nowhere and left a series of brilliant comments everywhere. Cremation is indeed barbaric, and the act of mourning the bodies of the deceased is an experience that makes people grow.
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None of the lawyer chicks insisted on a condom? Wow. Talk about high IQ having no use in a woman. Apparently lawyer women have not heard of AIDS. They don’t even care about protecting their own lives.
Of course, on the other hand I *do* go to law school, and I want to get laid tonight. It’s our end of semester party, and these sluts are gonna be horny and drunk. Any advice? Do these girls require extra negs??
Oh and whiskey, Blago is tall, he used to play basketball. The fact that nobody cares about John Edwards’s affair doesn’t mean much. He was a one term senator. He is irelevant. The difference is how the feminists loved Bill Clinton, despite his behavior, because he promised them legal abortions. George W. Bush was President of the US, it’s hard to say that isn’t alpha, yet feminists would never excuse ANYTHING he did, because he believed in the traditional family and moral values, the ENEMY of all feminists. That is the difference.
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If a girl refused to start taking the pill and made me wear a condom well past the four week mark, I cut her loose. This was probably a wise decision by me. One, condoms suck. Two, she thinks I’m sleeping around on her but doesn’t care (this is a bad foundation for a fledgling relationship, even if true). Three, I wonder who else is she fucking?
Roissy, some of us can’t take the pill. I can’t. After 6 months I have to increase the dosage, as my natural cycle is like clockwork and just goes back to normal.
After about 18 months on the pill, I’m on about twice the level of hormones, and it’s just not worth it to me.
Still get the pms, still get the chocolate cravings like nobody’s business, and still get the backaches.
It doesn’t have that much effect on the flow, either, so it’s just not worth it to me.
I never liked condoms, but it’s a small price to pay for keeping a healthy body for me.
For your amusement, when I was living with the alpha bad boy, I got sent out to buy the condoms. Since he liked to keep a good stock on hand, I had to go to the pharmacist and buy out all they had.
It was an older man at the counter, and it was New Year’s Eve.
The bloke at the counter thought it was priceless and reckoned that someone was going to be having a great new year. 🙂
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…i’m STD free since 2003.
Lol, Chuck. Thanks for the news – dare I enquire what you were before 2003?
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WOW, Roissy is an even bigger slut than I thought he was.
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Eeuuwww, smelly ass? Yuck, the things you guys get up to,LOL
CHIC NOIR, you guys are close huh? i never would have put you two together…
I’d say it’s time for that blood test…
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