Reader Fabian linked to a funny entry on the ‘Don’t Date Him Girl’ blog:
He had several “lady friends” who stayed the night at his house and he claimed they were “Just friends”. He frequently forgot important details about me, such as the fact that I had a sister, my birthday and what sorts of hobbies I had. He blew me off constantly, would return calls a week later with the excuse of “I was busy.” I often spoiled him with gifts, rides and sex only to receive a bag of Skittles in return. (I don’t even like skittles!) That was the only gift I ever received from him! I met a new friend and we were bonding over “worst ex-boyfriend stories” and suddenly we realized “boy, a lot of these sound the same… Was his name ____?” IT WAS THE SAME GUY!!!
In an unintentional juxtaposition for the ages, reader joel left a comment in my Pimp Slap post about a wedding he attended:
I just attended a wedding the bill for which, paid mostly by the parents of the bride but with substantial input from the groom’s parents, would easily pay for the private education of several children. It could have paid for a modest but nice house in a good neighborhood in many parts of the country. Hint: The flowers cost about $15,000.
It is amazing what the matriarchy does. The Darwinian purpose of this, I believe, is to keep the husbands working their asses off, and keep them broke, so they can’t go out and buy a younger woman for their next wife or keep a concubine.
Really. There is no other logical explanation for this excess.
Two men, two vastly different experiences with women. One man gets all the pussy he wants for the bargain basement price of a bag of Skittles, while the other man marries a woman in a wedding ceremony featuring flowers that cost $15,000.
How much you want to bet the first guy’s rotation of girlfriends is hotter than the second guy’s $15,000 flower wife? How much you want to bet the first guy gets all the anal sex and blowjobs he desires while the second guy will be begging for his once-a-month sex as soon as the vows are exchanged? If one of these guys is a herb, who is it more likely to be?
FACT: Odds are good you will enjoy a bounty of pussy and love if you act like Skittles guy. FACT: Odds are good you will spend the rest of your life begging for tepid sex from the same old boring pussy if you act like $15,000 wedding flower guy.
Be a Skittles man. Don’t be a $15,000 wedding flower man.
I’ve been in the company of a lot of women who hailed from all sorts of stations in life. I know the sound of a woman in love, and it usually sounds like the woman in the Skittles story — bitching and moaning about a world class asshole, chasing him from here to kingdom come to cajole him to surrender at least a small measure of his autonomy (which he never does), and always… ALWAYS… going back to him when they have a bad fight. I’ve been that guy.
I’ve also been around the kinds of women from the wedding flower story. They usually sound like they are more in love with the idea of $15,000 wedding flowers than they are with their man. They never chase, and their men are in the permanently disabling position of constantly bending over backwards to satisfy their women’s whims. Women who are princess-ified have power over their men, even over the kinds of men who themselves have power over other men. The women know this and they subconsciously resent it.
Joel is right. The matriarchy in all its silly manifestations — extravagant weddings, diamonds-nookie barter, pop culture propaganda, daddy government disease — is structured to handicap men. To cut them off at the knees. Fitting, really, because a man on his knees is exactly where he’d have to be to agree to $15,000 wedding flowers. The finances aren’t the core issue; it’s the corrosive effect such a wasteful expenditure for a woman will have on her attitude. The matriarchy loathes and fears Skittle Man, the freeloader who nonetheless basks in the love of many women. The matriarchy would rather men be like Wedding Flower Man, slaving dutifully as a nameless, faceless cog in the machine paying his dues for his two pence of pussy. Society’s Little Helper.
And at the end of the day, what for? To thanklessly pump out cannon fodder for the wars of the future? Fuck that sideways. The rulebook was written to constrain free thinkers like you. When you know the score, when you understand that this life is all there is and all there ever will be and your legacy in gold or works or kids means nothing when your consciousness is obliterated to nothing and your deathbed is lined with the garland of regret and pleasures denied and the memory of your decades of pointless sacrifice crawls slowly across the walls like night shadows to suffocate you in your final doom… only then will you look your blushing bride in the eye and inform her that there will be no $15,000 wedding flowers and she can hit the bricks if that’s unacceptable to her.
Better yet, tell her there will be no wedding and no marriage. She can love you without needing the permission of the state.
Some newcomers are aghast when they read my stuff. They think this blog must be a joke or the ravings of a lunatic, a madman driven to the brink by a particularly damaging experience with an ex. No. While I’ve had my joys and sorrows and loves and heartbreaks just like any other man possessing a wealth of experience with women, on the whole most of the women in my life have been and continue to be cherished loves. My lunacy is the clear-eyed vision of Neo after the matrix is revealed to him. Reality makes lunatics of us all, but only those with the eyes to see and the ego to spare ever embrace it unconditionally.
Yeah, but does the $15K flower chick have my balls on a platter? That’s the only thing that matters.
Peter
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“Reality makes lunatics of us all, but only those with the eyes to see and the ego to spare ever embrace it unconditionally.”
Truer words never spoken.
“Yeah, but does the $15K flower chick have my balls on a platter?”
Yes, she does. From the jump.
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“When you know the score, when you understand that this life is all there is and all there ever will be and your legacy in gold or works or kids means nothing when your consciousness is obliterated to nothing ….”
The entire history of human experience and civilization does not correspond to this.
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How come that gay guy in Revenge of the Nerds had that weird javelin that flopped around?
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>”The entire history of human experience and civilization does not correspond to this.”
Demonstrate your thesis, please.
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Demonstrate your thesis, please
self evident truths need not be demonstrated
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miamiyeahh,
pick up at random any book related to history and open it to any page at random and begin reading. repeat twenty times.
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Andrew, his point is that even if your legacy remains, you will not be able to appreciate the appreciation of it.
It’s an existential question without any real answer – like do we all exist or is reality a figment of my imagination. No need to act superior about it.
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To be fair, the guy’s not paying for those flowers or any other part of the wedding. But your abstract point still stands – don’t give a woman everything she says she wants or she’ll resent you.
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I think CH should run for high office.What a stir he would cause!We could all participate in his campaign,and score a victory for truth and justice.Personall I would give anything to see “conservative” and “religious” women squirm in discomfort at the sight of his candidacy.
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Seeking Alpha,
I was merely pointing out that nihilism is incongruent with human experience. A simple and obvious point, but one that can’t be made too often. Nothing more.
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“He blew me off constantly, would return calls a week later with the excuse of “I was busy.”
A better answer to use is “I was traveling”.
Always tell a girl when you first meet her in a bar that you travel a lot.
Girls will be more attracted to you, and you can bail yourself out of any situation.
Even better if, like me, you actually do “travel a lot”.
“I often spoiled him with gifts, rides and sex only to receive a bag of Skittles in return.”
It would have been even more smooth if the guy “re-gifted” some old Halloween candy.
Great down economy move.
– MPM
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the explosion in the number of comments came with CH depending more and more on readers to generate new posts.
another self evident truth: If you want to bang chicks, it is better to have a page on the “Don’t Date Him Girl’ blog” than in Facebook. I myself would honored to be included, but as I know America hasn’t exported that blog yet.
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Andrew
Presumably something so simple and obvious can easily be civilly explained without resorting to glib dismissals without discussion.
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I was a skittles guy a while back except I gave her doritos. She still liked me enought to invite me back to her house. (This was after rapport and massive comforting.) At the time i just didn’t give a fuck (I had other issues). She just looked at the bag then me and ate them. Now of course the only thing I regretted about this was her breath reeked of cheese. The love was still strong tho.
“…understand that this life is all there is and all there ever will be and your legacy in gold or works or kids means nothing when your consciousness is obliterated to nothing… ”
I been thinking about this but I still can’t buy it. I don’t believe in a heaven or hell but something may happen after one dies. According to the first law of thermodynamics energy cannot be created nor destroyed. So what gives? Also how can you explain ghosts?
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“I just attended a wedding the bill for which, paid mostly by the parents of the bride but with substantial input from the groom’s parents, would easily pay for the private education of several children.”
I love big extravagant weddings.
But the only people they are good for are the single Playboys swooping all the girls there.
I once went to a wedding on top of The World Trade, Windows on the World. (Pre-911 obviously).
The cake supposedly cost $75,000.
West coast Newport beach/Hollywood money meets NYC Hedge fund money.
All kinds of competition from heavy finance cats and actors.
I was a young up and coming Playboy on the Rise in a $300 suit.
Came in with so much swagger I swooped the flyest girl at the wedding right out from under everyone.
KO.
That was the first time I cracked the Top 100 Playboys list.
– MPM
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Andrew E:
“The entire history of human experience and civilization does not correspond to this.”
This is the dawning of the age of Aquarius.
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hmmm… I’m not sure every man would agree that raising a family represents “decades of pointless sacrifice”, but the behavioral points are right on. Would you say, though, that $15K flower girl is qualitatively different than the Skittles girls? In other words, does that differing masculine behavior attract corresponding kinds of women (more submissive vs more feminist-ized) or does the behavior bring out those qualities in any given woman when attraction already exists? I have my ideas, of course, but wanted to throw this out for the group…
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G
I have moved 3 months ago to a different city. And I have stayed only one weekend in the new city so far. Since now it is my money I spend, I search any air ticket sale to buy cheaply.
My notch count improved by 50%. Girls just love when you say: “I just came for the weekend, maybe i’ll be beack here next weekend also” or “no, we can’t meet on saturday since i’ll be traveling to …”
Anyway, it is better to hide the stuff aboout cheap tickets bought on sales. It is better to present the fait accompli on thursday or friday, as if my need to travel just arised, than say, like an accountant, that I bought cheap tickets for all weekends allowed by the air company
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Because there can be no real answer to the existential question, the answer given is not necessarily the right one.
How do we know for a fact that the universe is only as we perceive it? How do we know for a fact that the legacy we leave in this life is meaningless?
Seek and you shall find. Those who have faced death say it is not a thing to be feared.
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“Because there can be no real answer to the existential question, the answer given is not necessarily the right one.
How do we know for a fact that the universe is only as we perceive it? How do we know for a fact that the legacy we leave in this life is meaningless?
Seek and you shall find. Those who have faced death say it is not a thing to be feared”
Deep and profound you are, young padawan
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gig,
Yep.
You are always better off when you “just got into town”.
Even if you haven’t left in a while.
Visiting team advantage.
Pretty soon I am going to implement my “3 week vacation” plan to full effect: That is staying 3 weeks of every month traveling.
Always, Stick and move. (so to speak)
– MPM
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Here is a Megan McArdle article and thread about child support.
Note in the comments how indignant the women get when a man suggests that women earn enough on their own and don’t deserve alimony.
Foolish women like Chic Noir claim that ‘women give up so much when they get married’, somehow implying that men do not give up as much. What idiocy. Sheesh…….
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When I got married, at 24, I gave my wife a $10 silver ring. Actually, it cost me $2.50, as I bought rings wholesale for my business.
After the divorce, she wore it for years.
The wedding cost me nothing, unless you count the years of torment.
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Seeking Alpha,
“civily explained”
I think you’re forgetting what blog you are at. This isn’t exactly the Intellectual Conservative or Mises.org. Pornography is the standard here. I visit from time to time because there may be some conservatively inclined readers who want something more and may be worth engaging.
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I once blessed a girl with the a box of sour patch kids in Lord of the Rings character shapes, a mutual interest of ours. This was likely the most money I ever spent on her. The sex was particularly spirited later that evening.
Marriage through the eyes of my new favorite internet meme:
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Andrew
As I count myself amount the ‘something more’, and agree with your assessment, it’s all the more disappointing that you would shy away from defending your position intelligently.
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anedocte, or how I came to realize what shit tests are
I moved from my city to go to college, and until I lost my accent I always heard girls asking: You are not from here, aren’t you? From which most guys concluded that girls from A don’t like guys from B.
Lost my accent, got status, and girls stopped asking it. When I did tell them I wasn’t from there, they took it as if I just said that the sky is blue. It simply didn’t matter. Then I looked at local guys, both in my home city and the new city, to see how THEY talked to girls. And I saw the matrix
Moved to another city, same thing. Open the girl, she asks promptly: you are not from here blah blah… Then I proceeded to neg her about HER city.
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Another awesome website is the “Heartless Bitches International” ….a solid source of good nourishment.
“Why Nice Guys are such losers” is still the all time classic.
http://www.heartless-bitches.com/rants/niceguys/niceguys.shtml
“What’s wrong with Nice Guys? The biggest problem is that most Nice Guys ™ are hideously insecure. They are so anxious to be liked and loved that they do things for other people to gain acceptance and attention, rather than for the simply pleasure of giving. You never know if a Nice Guy really likes you for who you are, or if he has glommed onto you out of desperation because you actually paid some kind of attention to him.
Nice Guys exude insecurity — a big red target for the predators of the world. There are women out there who are “users” — just looking for a sucker to take advantage of. Users home-in on “Nice Guys”, stroke their egos, take them for a ride, add a notch to their belts, and move on. It’s no wonder so many Nice Guys complain about women being horrible, when the so often the kind of woman that gets attracted to them is the lowest form of life…
I like their list of quotes too…..”
http://www.heartless-bitches.com/heartless/collected_quotes.shtml
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gig
“Then I proceeded to neg her about HER city.”
“City Game” can be a very powerful tool.
Having lived and grown up on the East and West Coasts I have used that to my advantage all my life.
When I am out West, I always say I am from the East Coast.
When I am on the East Coast, I always say I am from California.
Helps you be more fluid, more chameleon like.
Picking up on slang and accents from both coasts can be very powerful as well.
In the last few years, I have been extending that more Internationally ie Speaking Spanish with a Colombian accent or Spanish with a Valencian accent.
Or English with East End London slang or Sydney slang.
Wait, what was the point I was getting at?
– MPM
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Maurice, Seeking Alpha-
I think Skittles woman and wedding flower woman are qualitatively the same. They are just responding in different ways to different men.
Actually I think all women are qualitatively the same, at least much more than men are. “The colonel’s lady and Rosie O’Grady are sisters under the skin” as Kipling said.
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We choose our answer, and we live our lives accordingly, but no one’s answer, and thus no one’s choice, is right or wrong. ~Seeking Alpha
What color is the room I’m sitting in? There is a right answer, it just can not be seen from your vantage point. It does not mean no one’s choice is right or wrong.
There is a God or there isn’t. We can’t both be right. The two options are mutually exclusive.
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@ Anonymous
You’re correct that – if we were God, all knowing – there is a right answer.
But given that neither of us knows which answer is right, and can never know which answer is right, neither of us can prove the other wrong. If neither can prove the other wrong, it’s a bit silly to try. We just have to choose which answer we’ll arbitrarily believe and let our life flow from there.
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Mad lolz at Cannon’s video. That’s really painful.
You know, H.L. Mencken’s advice to men in “In Defense of women” (the title is a joke; Mencken was a mean bastard -you can find it online: it’s super great); bring back the dowry. The hell with spending all the money on some little ding-dong’s vanity. The money should be given to the man for putting up with her. Otherwise, why would any rational intelligent man reproduce? The funny thing is, in Mencken’s time (when he wrote this, women still couldn’t vote), things were far better than now, and he still saw the looming disaster.
Quoth the master: “Where religious superstitions have died out the institution of the dot prevails–an idea borrowed by Christians from the Jews. The dot is simply a bribe designed to overcome the disinclination of the male. It involves a frank recognition of the fact that he loses by marriage, and it seeks to make up for that loss by a money payment. Its obvious effect is to give young women a wider and better choice of husbands. A relatively superior man, otherwise quite out of reach, may be brought into camp by the assurance of economic ease, and what is more, he may be kept in order after he has been taken by the consciousness of his gain. Among hardheaded and highly practical peoples, such as the Jews and the French, the dot flourishes, and its effect is to promote intellectual suppleness in the race, for the average child is thus not inevitably the offspring of a woman and a noodle, as with us, but may be the offspring of a woman and a man of reasonable intelligence. “
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Lupo quoting Mencken
And there you have it. Mencken saw that men who have a choice among women and have no need to marry to get laid (the Alphas) are superior in intelligence.
Beta engineers my skinny little boy ass.
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I like how you ended that post. It’s not an easy thing to grasp for most. The way things work definitely seem to go against initial logic. You have to see it with your own eyes before you can believe it.
G – I think that works the best when your in either the complete east or west coast. I am up in Boston but I have lived all over the country. When I’m in Boston, girls love the fact that I have lived down south or out west. They don’t know any different and they like that I’m a country boy. Anywhere else in the country, they eat up the fact that I’m from Boston. I don’t change any of my information from state to state, but the girls fabricate in their own minds what they want to hear.
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some advice for the ladies:
when a man is in love and wants marriage, he makes it happen. He scouts the reception hall, speaks to the pastor, signs the band, and chooses the hymns. Whatever he values, he executes. If he doesn’t value the things I’ve mentioned, then find out what he does value and allow him to execute it. I’ve always resented those “drag him to the alter” jokes because they imply that he is not in charge.
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The G
More evidence that a sharp supple mind capable of wit and social control is more likely to belong to a superior Alpha.
Betas are the backbone of society in the same way that servants are. Necessary, but not sufficient. Betas need their overlords more than the reverse.
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I been thinking about this but I still can’t buy it. I don’t believe in a heaven or hell but something may happen after one dies. According to the first law of thermodynamics energy cannot be created nor destroyed. So what gives? Also how can you explain ghosts?
Ya, your rotting corpse gets transformed into fodder for creepy crawlies. That’s where the energy goes.
It gives them the sustenance to grow and reproduce until they, too, die and continue the cycle of life and death.
It’s all one big loop.
There are no such things as ghosts.
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But given that neither of us knows which answer is right, and can never know which answer is right, neither of us can prove the other wrong. ~Seeking Alpha
Actually I hold the existence of God and certain attributes such as omniscience and omnipotence can be logically derived from the following statement, “It is true that I exist.”
A combox is not the forum for such a discussion; many volumes have been written on it. (Thomas Aquinas, Decarte, etc.)
I just want to point out that not everyone cedes your argument that neither of us can know which answer is right.
(Formerly Anonymous 3:00)
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*Descartes
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Seeking Alpha,
Not buying it. You dislike the manner in which I say certain things because you disagree with them. You said yourself that you have no principles, you choose your answers arbitrarily.
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It bears reminding that many women are mirrors. They reflect the opinions around them.
Maybe they reflect the sisterhood, maybe they reflect you, or their family, but they reflect.
You tell your woman that her bad behavior is worth 15,000 dollars in flowers for her wedding…..
and she believes you. Reflects your adoration right back at you…. with more contempt.
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Andrew
So you’re saying you did intelligently defend your position and I missed it, or you’re saying you did not intelligently defend your position but it doesn’t matter because you think I’d disagree off-hand.
As for having no principles… now you’re leading me to question either your intelligence or your integrity. I said that the answer is unknowable and so we all choose arbitrarily – you can be principled in either answer.
Given your collection of responses thus far, you’ve put lie to your claim of being an intelligent conservative looking for further engagement. That’s too bad.
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G
Picking up on slang and accents from both coasts can be very powerful as well.
precisely.
also, when playing the “city game”, people should remember the ranking of coolness among cities. Some are simply cooler than others. Some, as someone else said, offends others. (You are in Georgia and say that you come from Moscow…)
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Tyler,
“I think that works the best when your in either the complete east or west coast.”
Very true.
I go with California when I am in New Orleans, or Chicago or other neutral turf.
Miami Beach when I am in Las Vegas.
California or Los Angeles work wonders in Europe and Latin America.
California and Los Angeles, one of the greatest marketing schemes ever put over on the world at large.
“the girls fabricate in their own minds what they want to hear.”
Don’t they all?
That is one of the keys to swooping girls, tell them a little and let their fantasies run from there.
– MPM
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A friend once met a couple of gringas here. He started to talk to them and asked where they came from. Instead of saying “America”, they said “California”, probably thinking like the G.
my friend took another look at them, shook his head, and said “California o caralho, you two come from Tijuana” and still managed to kiss one of them.
they were 5s
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A key line: “The finances aren’t the core issue; it’s the corrosive effect such a wasteful expenditure for a woman will have on her attitude.”
It’s true. …Or rather, the attitude was likely always there albeit possibly latent. The wedding finances are simply the evidence. If the groom is willing to roll with this unopposed, he’s giving tacit approval to a continued attitude of entitlement. Warning: a need for social display does not simply appear once, say in preparation for a wedding, then go away never to be seen or heard from again. It will reappear over and over again in one’s relationship. It should be a red flag to any aspiring alpha (not among the top .001% income percentile). The groom here is likely too blinded to foresee it, but I’ll bet that within three years, wedding flower girl gives her husband heavy, heavy crap regarding either his choice of friends, his choice of career, or where they live.
To Seeking Alpha (who is soon to be married, yes?): “To be fair, the guy’s not paying for those flowers or any other part of the wedding. ”
You’re right in that the $$ isn’t directly coming out of the groom’s pocket–and I know that’s how you meant it. But he’s going to pay. In one way or another, the groom here is definitely going to pay. And she won’t be satisfied if he tries to pay in Skittles!
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Skittles guy in action:
http://www.boston.com/lifestyle/relationships/blog/2009/05/you_all_have_to_stop.html
Short version: wife asks for a divorce. He says “Come on baby, let’s keep it together”. She says “no, I’m bored”.
Two weeks later, before she’s even moved out of the house, he’s dating a younger woman.
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G
Same with writing. A little minimalism goes a long way.
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gig
“also, when playing the “city game”, people should remember the ranking of coolness among cities.”
That is the whole thing.
Here is how it breaks down (USA version):
In New York or DC say from LA.
In LA say from NYC or Miami Beach.
In SF say NYC or Miami Beach.
In Las Vegas say Miami Beach.
In San Diego say Miami Beach.
In Miami Beach say LA.
In New Orleans anything goes. LA is best.
In Chicago say Miami Beach or LA.
There is a very deep rooted psychological reasoning for each of these.
Internationally is a different story.
– MPM
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CH might like this article:
http://neuroscientificallychallenged.blogspot.com/2008/07/dopamine-and-bruce-effect.html
Dopamine and the Bruce Effect
If you take a recently impregnated female mouse and place her in a cage with an unfamiliar male, something curious often happens. The female, upon smelling the new male’s urine, spontaneously aborts the fetus as her body drastically reduces its production of prolactin (PRL), a hormone responsible for progesterone secretion and thus essential to maintaining a pregnancy. The embryo fails to implant and the female begins ovulating again, making her receptive to copulation attempts by the new male. This strange phenomenon was first noticed by biologist Hilda Margaret Bruce in 1959, and is referred to as the Bruce effect.
It could in part help explain in part the indifference so many women living with abusive boyfriends have to the well being of their children. (One of the discussions in yesterday’s Creepy Children thread.)
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Thanks for the city game tips.
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What happens on your deathbed when you realize that your regret not having kids? That this is a pleasure you have denied yourself? What are you going to do, as a skittles man, if you realize this before it is too late?
At an earlier stage in my life I would have agreed with you that kids are a pointless sacrifice. I don’t believe this now. Of course I might revert to my previous view when my kids become ungrateful, expensive teenagers, heh heh heh. But that’s when I ship ’em off to military boarding school.
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Seeking Alpha,
What I’m saying is that the materialist worldview is at odds with the historical record human experience and civilization. This is like saying that 2+2=4. It really requires no elaboration; it belongs to general knowledge.
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MNL
To Seeking Alpha (who is soon to be married, yes?): “To be fair, the guy’s not paying for those flowers or any other part of the wedding. ”
You’re right in that the $$ isn’t directly coming out of the groom’s pocket–and I know that’s how you meant it. But he’s going to pay. In one way or another, the groom here is definitely going to pay. And she won’t be satisfied if he tries to pay in Skittles!
Yup, I’m engaged, which certainly gives me a bias here.
And in all actuality, you’re right… His coloring of the situation is likely correct.
But I just wanted to make the point that that’s not necessarily correct. Just like a feminist woman might be domineering to her husband while submissive to the alpha she’s having an affair with – likewise, I could see a situation where the guy has an attitude of ‘I don’t really care what you get your parents to pay for but I’m not dancing to Celine-fucking-Dion for our song’.
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http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=139#comic
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Travis the woodturner
the comments there are beyond redemption
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Nonymous
“Thanks for the city game tips.”
No problem.
But keep in mind, this is Advanced Game.
You should really know each of these cities extremely well; where you live (or were you keep an apartment), which high school you went to, the best restaurants, nightclubs, quirks, accents, manner of speech, world views, landmarks etc.
You do not want to be exposed, or it can be Game Over.
5-10 years ago “City Game” was a lot easier to run.
With the internet and our interconnected world, people are more educated about different cities.
So get you act down Cold.
And reap the benefits.
– MPM
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Andrew
It’s becoming clearer that your lack of explanation is a ‘can’t’ instead of a ‘won’t’.
As evidence: the materialist worldview is at odds with the historical record human experience and civilization
His view – in this post – isn’t for or against materialism. He believes that your legacy means nothing because ‘your consciousness is obliterated to nothing’. From there you can draw two opposite conclusions: that possessions are meaningless because we can’t take them with us so working for them is useless – or that there is no ultimate moral judge and so we may as well amass fortunes to be spent in sin in any way we can.
There is no correlation – positive or negative – with materialism.
Furthermore, if anything, civilization has been built upon the accumulation of materials and possession. Without materialism, you’re left with the ‘civilization’ of the Native American.
To be honest, I have no idea what your point is, and likely neither do you. Hence your reluctance to defend it.
Come on buddy, take a chance! Put yourself out there. Maybe you’re wrong, maybe you’re right. But actually engage in a debate like you said you wanted to… don’t resort to mindless tautologies. Then you’re just TJF but with a boring subject matter.
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schoolboyI was a skittles guy a while back except I gave her doritos
*screams*
Just the thought of innocent little schoolboy behaving in such a manner hurts my heart and makes me shed a tear.
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Better yet, the ending: “IT WAS THE SAME GUY!!! She tallied up that he had cheated on her five times with both men and women and left her when it was conveinent for him. He is a user…”
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@Travis the woodturner
agreed, the comments are absolutely unfathomable. “Reality makes lunatics of us all,” indeed.
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“How come that gay guy in Revenge of the Nerds had that weird javelin that flopped around?”
It was designed for his limp-wristed throwing style.
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Cannon’s Canon,
I’d hire that fuckin’ cat. That’s for sure! Hysterical. Worth every penny. i bet I’d get that animal to perform for a handful of catnip and a can or 2 of Fancy Feast.
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15k for flowers was ridiculous. I can only imagine that the bride and groom both came from wealthy families. I wonder if she donated the flowers to a hospital. 15k is a down payment on a home or a car for the average American. If I were going to blow 15k, I would use it for a 2 month honeymoon with my new husband. I prefer to spend money for experiences over things. “things” break, become outdated, you’ll probably grow bored with them after a couple of weeks.
editor When you know the score, when you understand that this life is all there is and all there ever will be and your legacy in gold or works or kids means nothing when your consciousness is obliterated to nothing and your deathbed is lined with the garland of regret and pleasures denied and the memory of your decades of pointless sacrifice crawls slowly across the walls like night shadows to suffocate you in your final doom
Like school boy I’m not sure about what happens but of anything that’s been written on this blog you hit it out of the park with this. I agree 200% .
Question to the readers: If you had Bill Gates billions, how much would you leave to your children? Would you put stipulations on how they could spend what you leave them?
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He didn’t pay for the wedding!
Otherwise great.
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maurice
“@GMan- so where do you say you’re from DC? I agree about the lure of LA for DC people…”
Almost Never, unless you want to play some high-end international or political vibe.
Or want to seem completely neutral.
Being from DC has very little stereotypical value as compared to saying “I am from Manhattan” or Philly, Boston, Brooklyn etc.
Saying you are from DC has a certain cachet in the African-American community however.
So, lets say you meet a fly black girl from St. Louis while you are in Miami Beach.
DC would be a good answer.
– MPM
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“lets say you meet a fly black girl”
never happen.
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@GMan- thanks. I’m probably a lot closer to international/political vibe than swooping fly black girls in Miami. Although I know a fly black girl in Orange County who is def willing to be swooped by me next time I’m there.
@chic- really? You are a spiritual nihilst? Wouldn’t have thought so…
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Duke Leto Atredies
“lets say you meet a fly black girl”
never happen.
maurice,
“I’m probably a lot closer to international/political vibe”
Not a bad steez to play.
DC is very chameleon like. People that grew up there are exposed to many cultures, socio-economic groups and typically are very well traveled and speak many languages.
That leads to one of my theories that many a top tier Playboy has spent some or most of his youth inside the beltway.
– MPM
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Well…at least she tastes the rainbow…..
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maurice You are a spiritual nihilst?
no quite, just unsure of what the actual end is.
@maurice- why?
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Gabrielle Union….wasnt she raped?
She must like it rough now…..
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Bisexual doesn’t mean beta.
Robin Baker in Sperm Wars says bis are more attractive to women, because they have sex earlier in life.
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@chic – you seem to be a sharp, down-to-earth black woman and in my experience people from that kind of community are very traditional and conservative on religious issues…
@GMan- also, DC usually works well internationally.
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Heh…pure poetry.
One of the reasons why I’ve become a regular reader and commenter here is because this is one of the few places on the internet where one can discuss the reality of “the matrix” without enduring endless accusations of “conspiracy theory lunacy” and having your arguments simply marginalized as “tin foil hat” territory.
Most people on political discussion sites, hobby and sports message boards are all blue pill swallowers. It’s very few and far between you actually find a fellow red pill taker.
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oh my god. canon – that clip – i couldn’t even make it through the entire thing. that’s just heartbreaking.
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Marriage isn’t about sex, romance, $15000 flowers or any of the other Hallmark crap peddled to women by the media. It’s a business deal made for the legal and financial protection of children. If people don’t want kids they shouldn’t get married, period. If they do get married and have kids they shouldn’t get divorced, period (barring horrible abuse or other extreme circumstances.) No-fault divorce is for selfish assholes who don’t care enough about their kids to honor their vows.
That said, I do support open marriage. A 40-year-old married woman with kids is past breeding age, so the husband has already done his job. If I’m 40 and lucky enough have a good husband who treats my kids well, I’m hardly going to begrudge him a young hottie on the side. As long as he’s discreet, honest with me and isn’t bringing home diseases or drama, I’d think of it as a reward for a job well done. It’s unfair to expect the average man to stifle his natural urges and fuck the same aging woman for the rest of his life, under threat of divorce and financial ruin.
I don’t think marriage itself the problem. Women’s unrealistic expectations, coupled with a litigious culture prescribing divorce for every minor problem, have made it a parody of what it was meant to be. I’m curious to know if he comes from a stable, functional two parent family. Somehow I doubt it.
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@spiralina – great post! You appear to be a truly fair-minded female…
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Agreed.
And you know what? What many find incredulous is that normal, average Joe’s, even Engineers, can demand this kind of attitude from their women.
Try it.
It really works.
Be the skittles man. It’s easier than you think.
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@xplat – am not an engineer, but was something like one in a previous life. You are in jakarta, though, where the mores and sex roles are much more traditional – don’t forget how truly c*nty american girls can be. Not all of course, but the programming is there. Which is why my LTRs (including the current one) are with foreign-born women.
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Don’t we as men of the West have a responsibility to have children for the future of our civilization?
Are you saying all is lost to the multi-cult, and that we should just pursue pleasure?
What if our sexual energies were channeled into revolution?
Who are the true “Alpha Men;” those who score lots of women, or those who defeat the Multi-Cult and save Western Civilization?
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@ Cannon’s Canon
> agreed, the comments are absolutely unfathomable. “Reality makes lunatics of us all,” indeed.
I thought folks would enjoy them.
For the record, I’m Catholic, pro-marriage, anti-divorce … but you’ve got to absolutely respect, at least in the abstract, a guy who says “That’s your move? OK, here’s my move!”.
The 4,000 comments from bitter leftists who are APPALLED that the women would begin a game of checkers (in bad faith) and the guy would respond with a !@#$-ing masterful chess move … too funny.
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even though I agree with spiralina, I really doubt that she is a woman.
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XSPLAT,
What do you mean “even engineers”. What is all this nonsense that if you are academically gifted then you are somehow weak?
I have a B.S. in Biochemistry(magna cum laude), then M.S. in Chemical Engineering and MBA. All by the time i was 23.
I currently work as a trader.
And when i am 28, i will head to graduate school for ph.d. in molecular biology.
I know three languages. I also know Krav Marga. I am a well trained gymnast. An awesome soccer player/sprinter. Tall and well built.
What the fuck is the whole bullshit about nerd/jock = brain vs brawn dichotomy nonsense?
Get the living fuck out of here.
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@ Darth Maul
Daaamn. Someone is a little sensitive, no? But you also work as a trader, so you’re a bad example. He didn’t say ‘intelligent’, he said ‘engineer’. It’s not impossible to think that people drawn to certain professions are more or less likely to exhibit alpha/beta traits.
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xsplat doesn’t know any middle ground, the guy just has some extreme opinion about anything that comes up in this blog.
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It’s a business deal made for the legal and financial protection of children. If people don’t want kids they shouldn’t get married, period. If they do get married and have kids they shouldn’t get divorced, period (barring horrible abuse or other extreme circumstances.) No-fault divorce is for selfish assholes who don’t care enough about their kids to honor their vows.
Spiralina —
That was marriage 1.0. Marriage 2.0, or feminist marriage, is about personal happiness and fulfillment — and when you’re unhappy, you discard it like an old handbag, keep the house and kids, and get a check.
That said, I do support open marriage. A 40-year-old married woman with kids is past breeding age, so the husband has already done his job. If I’m 40 and lucky enough have a good husband who treats my kids well, I’m hardly going to begrudge him a young hottie on the side. As long as he’s discreet, honest with me and isn’t bringing home diseases or drama, I’d think of it as a reward for a job well done. It’s unfair to expect the average man to stifle his natural urges and fuck the same aging woman for the rest of his life, under threat of divorce and financial ruin.
The issue with this is that open would be bilaterally open. I think that women when they have extra-marital relationships, fall in love with their lovers more readily than men fall in love with their mistresses, and that tends to threaten the marriage. When there are kids involved, that leads to a mess.
I don’t think marriage itself the problem. Women’s unrealistic expectations, coupled with a litigious culture prescribing divorce for every minor problem, have made it a parody of what it was meant to be.
Marriage 1.0 isn’t the problem, but marriage 2.0 is. The institution is simply what the law says it is at any point in time, and the current version of marriage is inherently unstable due to the divorce regime.
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@ Darth Maul
And what do you trade and where?
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Darth, if you read my other comments, you’ll find that I agree with you completely. “Even engineers” was a continuation of my agreement. There has been an argument that inventions come from betas, and I take the position that they don’t.
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Seeking Alpha,
Yes, i am a little sensitive about that….call it qualifying or whatever. I dont care. It just pisses me off. Being good in mathematics = doesnt equal weak. Being good in science = does not mean being unable to pick up chicks. Or break people’s head.
The whole brawn vs brain dichotomy really annoys me.
People can be well rounded. And there are engineers that are actually fucking hot.
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Wrong assumption. Come to Jakarta and visit a disco – all you need to do is spring for a tab of exstacy, and your in.
All the sex roles you’ll find in any city can be found here.
Girls get what they can, in any city. Indonesia is no exception. Culture is a weak determinant of action – opportunity is the determinant.
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Darth Maul
To be fair though, in your engineering programs, would you say the average was no different than the average in any other program, or would you say it skews one way versus another.
Hopefully you were talking about female engineers that are ‘hot’. Otherwise, you might want to ‘pause’ that.
And still curious about what/where you trade.
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I trade futures, forex, commodities, and stocks. swing/scalp trading mostly.
I wrote a few post yesterday about sexual harassment at my workplace…..using some of the irst name of my co-workers…it is not advisable to tell you the name of the company where i work. Chicks can be vengeful bitches.
I was discussing trading a little bit with GUNS and Cannon yesterday about FAZ.
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Darth
Oh yea, I definitely wouldn’t expect a firm name. I was thinking more general.
NYC I-bank. London-based hedge fund. etc.
I trade fixed income at a CT hedge fund.
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Seeking Alpha,
The average psychology/communication major is orders of magnitude hotter than the average engineer. Hands down. No competition. But there are engineers that are hot. My section of the campus during college looks like china town. So many fucking asians. It was fucking ridiculous.
I had to go over to the liberal arts section of the school to pick up hot white/black/latina chicks. For hot asians, the engineering school have that in abundant supply.
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I trade my rear end to old queens for about $25 a pop!
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Seeking Alpha: “I could see a situation where the guy has an attitude of ‘I don’t really care what you get your parents to pay for but I’m not dancing to Celine-fucking-Dion for our song’.”
Ha! Yes, let’s hope.
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Xsplat,
My fault there. Carry on.
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Wow that was a very good article as always, i feel that it looks like a little mean to treat the woman like that, but since the women likes that then ill do it. its very good too since because i dont have too much cash for the women.
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This is what you do you offer the chick 10k to open you a buisiness. She gets excited as fuck because no one ever offered her 10k to start a business. Anyway I am starting to frachise my empire idea. My buddy tried on old chick he knows she freaked out. Anyway. Tiimes have changed adapt overcome. Provide purpose,direction,motivation.
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maurice
@chic – you seem to be a sharp, down-to-earth black woman and in my experience people from that kind of community are very traditional and conservative on religious issues
We are traditionally but younger people are a bit different. We vary in thought on religious issues. This is largely the result of fewer Blacks between 18- 30 being active in church. Really, I think there is something but I’m just not sure what that something is. People saying you just have to believe blah blah blah isn’t enough for me. I completely understand where Marx was coming from when he said “ religion s the opiate of the people/masses”
Btw, some younger blks have a hard time believing that there is a God who is good when they are brought up in broken family with a dad who is not around. There may be a 70% illegitimacy rate but there are Black fathers who take an active role in the lives of their children. It’s the black children who grow up without any influence from their natural father or even a good step father (like shaq had) who grow up to be the most troubled. This is especially true for young black males.
Anyway, I try to look at the gender thing without bias but of course being human and from one of the two groups … I will say that women and men are full of crap with men being just a bit more because of their violent tendencies and need for absolute control. The sexes are lacking in understanding how the other thinks, and are unwilling to make compromises to accommodate the differences so we can coexist peacefully.
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@ novaseeker – i can’t speak for any other women re: their tendency to fall in love during affairs. i can say personally, it seems like a bilaterally open system (with all its pitfalls, like the one you noted) is still better than a system where your odds of divorce are better than 50%, and so many men are financially ruined, women are emotionally hardened and kids are just fucked up. i was raised by a great father who taught us divorce isn’t an option – you either honor your commitments or you make none. i think he’s an alpha male of an older, more traditional type that doesn’t show up much any more. sometimes i feel quite backwards for subscribing to marriage 1.0, but then i look around and all i see are broken lives.
@ gig – it’s sad that you doubt i’m a woman. we’re not all man hating feminazis, some of us love men and seek to understand rather than destroy them. maybe you’ve been meeting the wrong ones?
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chic: Now a days innocence doesn’t mean a goddamn thing.
Thats a label that someone uses to basically say, “you haven’t lived enought.”
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spiralina
“i think he’s an alpha male of an older, more traditional type that doesn’t show up much any more.”
They still exist.
They are the sons of these Alphas.
– MPM
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@darth – wtf? that $25/b.f. line was either an impostor or a horrifying freudian slip. that i will pretend never happened. otherwise, your points about alphaness and geekdom are appreciated, but probably off-point. the venn diagram circles of alpha-chick-swoopers and math-brainy engineers do intersect, but the intersection is very small in area. you may not have much company.
i maintain that this is because success with women means understanding them and their emotional needs/responses, something brainy guys have little experience with or aptitude for. i think tood and also obs posted something similar.
@chic – OK, noted. i notice the same conservatism among the younger black chicks i know, but we are all free agents and can believe what we feel comfortable with. i am a bit struck, though, by with the anti-materialist-nihilist response to the post – that is, a lot of folks pulled the deathbed-emptiness out of his post as the most important thing to respond to, which i didn’t expect.
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@GMan – would be good to know of any actual playboys from inside the beltway. the city does have a tendency to impress policy-lawyer-wonkdom upon people who spend too much time here. the antithesis of cool. i am guilty of the same phenomenon from time to time but know how to correct for it.
i also have been thinking of this day-trading talk going on in the last few days. i don’t work in that area, but i think technical analysis is mostly voodoo – but of a highly functional kind, that gives good information until the underlying basic assumptions change and then it doesn’t. i think more like an investor than a trader, and when i change careers in a few years it will be more like PE or VC than HF.
anyway, a core alpha behavior is risk-seeking, which is a proxy for physical courage in the modern world. the entrepreneur-founder or hedgie who bets millions each day is an updated version of the guy who killled sabre-tooth tigers to protect his cave. chicks instinctively dig it.
so DC, as a bureaucrat-lawyer city, has precious few of these types and a lot more of the security-seeking beta male types. so that’s one alpha dimension that is bascially totally lacking here. the core alpha attribute here – an nowhere else is just political power- foreign policy, economic policy, closeness to ulimate decision-making – for a person who cares about that. that’s why i think DC has more cache internationally than in the U.S. – most americans don’t know that much about how the government works, and don’t care. but what we decide here often has huge reprecussions abroad, so foreigners are more interested.
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@xsplat- i *so* wish i could do that. i hear you and have heard the same thing. but my point was that some x or blow is not nearly enough to impress a club full of chicks in DC or BOS or NY. (LA, maybe.) the attitude/programming are different – i guess “traditional” was the wrong word – maybe the absence of anglo-american feminism?
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so DC, as a bureaucrat-lawyer city, has precious few of these types and a lot more of the security-seeking beta male types. so that’s one alpha dimension that is bascially totally lacking here. the core alpha attribute here – an nowhere else is just political power- foreign policy, economic policy, closeness to ulimate decision-making – for a person who cares about that. that’s why i think DC has more cache internationally than in the U.S. – most americans don’t know that much about how the government works, and don’t care. but what we decide here often has huge reprecussions abroad, so foreigners are more interested.
Maurice —
This is a very perceptive observation of what DC is like, and I have often had similar thoughts myself.
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Skittles-guy as “alpha-of-the-month”? “Playa-of-the-month”? Thats a great story.
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would girl scout cookies work in lieu of skittles? how about if you hooked up with the den mother to get them?
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The flower man (who has high earning potential) only paid for the ring, but, the marriage put him on notice that big payments would follow. Why would he do that? In this particular case, he got a woman of intelligence and attainment (read equally high income potential) who, will wonders never cease, says she wants to have a family. Flower man wants children. Whether she keeps her promise is entirely up to her whim.
The upside is that if she changes her mind about children, the divorce won’t be too expensive.
He could have married a woman of much less attainment (read less earning potential) but then in a divorce he would have wound up paying $$$ in alimony and child support and lose most of the marital property. So, the huge wedding was really a good move for him. The parents put the money up, not him.
Flower man could have children if he just slept around, but, that is not for everyone. And, since he has high earning potential, he would be powerfully penalized for such behavior by the law. Men like him are forced into marriage if they want to have children.
I agree with many posters on the poor state of family law in this country. Small wonder this country is rapidly in decline.
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@chic – darker? nah, the truth will set you free. that’s why you’re here, right…?!?
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Skittles commercial.
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maurice
@chic – darker? nah, the truth will set you free. that’s why you’re here, right…?!?
yes but some not all of the men who post here have dark thoughts. Maybe most men do but they keep them hidden since it’s not acceptable to express them in the real world.
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Anyway ladies and gents, Thug has an important video up today, sure to cause controversy, but well worth viewing. It’s linked on my blog, which is linked to my name here — I say that rather than posting a moderation-delay link here.
Take a look at what he has to say. Good stuff in my opinion.
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Maurice, for all the libertarian talk, I’m beginning to think that too much choice is the problem for most people.
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Have you ever read Faust? I had to study it in German.
Basically, Faust agrees to give his soul to the Devil in return for total knowledge of reality. The catch was that Faust’s soul would not be taken (ie. he would never die) until he expressed happiness in this life. Faust thought this very unlikely.
Well, you likely know the story. After Faust achieved his knowledge of reality, he became disillusioned of his quest for knowledge. He decided that a life spent helping to improve the lot of your fellow humans wasn’t that bad. What else was there? That was the end of him, although he did die happy. (“Weile doch, du bist so shoen.” Most beautiful, and untranslatable, phrase, ever penned, IMHO.)
Maybe happiness and meaning is all between our ears, but, it is just as real as screwing.
BTW, Goethe, who wrote Faust, bitterly complained that no matter how great the attainment of an older man, his intellect, etc., a young woman always preferred the younger man. I guess Goethe would have been helped by reading your blog. Hell, he would have never bothered writing Faust.
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My lunacy is the clear-eyed vision of Neo after the matrix is revealed to him.
The Matrix wins; because the blue pill and the red pill are the same.
The “vision” is everything the Matrix wants you to see.
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This entry made me laugh. In a politics class in college I used to take skittles from my friend and, instead of eating them, give them to this cute girl that sat next to us – that neither of us knew. I just gave her skittles out of nowhere. And she would take them and eat them. That’s how I got to know her, and it turned out she was a freshman. Well, eventually, we ended up in a late-night study group for the final, and that was where I hooked up with her for the first time, literally the night before the final. Then, after the exam again. Her name was Meghan, but my friend and I referred to her forever as “Skittles” Of course. After the class was over, he was surprised to find out that I used his skittles to open. “You mean you didn’t know her before that class?” “No, dude. I just started giving her your skittles”.
100% true story. Skittles man?
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@spiralina Such realism is not s typical female trait,, to say the least. Even more because a cheating husband puts the wife at risk in the sense that he can get a new family, and divide his resources between both.
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maurice
“@GMan – would be good to know of any actual playboys from inside the beltway.”
Most leave for sunnier climes.
And flyer girls.
Kids that Grew up there, usually leave with all the skills.
– MPM
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maurice
“but i think technical analysis is mostly voodoo – but of a highly functional kind, that gives good information until the underlying basic assumptions change and then it doesn’t”
As far a trading goes, fundamental nor technical analysis make you money.
Buying and selling at the right time do.
Timing is the key.
Either way, I am off to meet a supplier.
– MPM
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@joel – what about the “ewig-weibliche” in the final scene? a mother-mary fixation or young-sex-object one?
i think Faust is a good metaphor for the seeker of forbidden knowlddge – about the true natures of women and sexual dynamics.
@GMan – DC is southern enough – you probably meant metaphorically sunnier. easier to “swoop fly girls”. love the phrase. it’s a sexless city compared to NY, LA, or even lesser cities such as MIA ATL or NO. very cerebral, edutcated, INTJ. but it’s my home town so I guess I better appreciate its good points.
in Vegas btw I do OK saying I’m from DC, surprisingly.
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Carl Sagan: “There are no such things as ghosts.”
They do exist.
Prove me wrong.
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Btw, some younger blks have a hard time believing that there is a God who is good when they are brought up in broken family with a dad who is not around.
God is a bitch.
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Who wants to bet that Skittles guy received the skittles from another girl and he doesn’t eat them so he passed them onto the girl he was banging as an afterthought.
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Btw, some younger blks have a hard time believing that there is a God who is good when they are brought up in broken family with a dad who is not around.
“If you’re male and you’re Christian and living in America, your father is your model for God. And if you never know your father, if your father bails out or dies or is never at home, what do you believe about God?” – Chuck Palahniuk
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Re: Nihilism
Andrew wrote that the history of civilization somehow disproves a starkly nihilistic world-view.
Let me presume to re-write what I think he really meant. “All of human history has been lived AS IF the final truth of things was contrary to nihilistic values.”
Does this dis-credit nihilism? I would say that it does but the argument to get from here to there is pretty subtle and it is kind of late where I am.
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Listening to the discussion about city game is interesting. There’s no doubt visitors and tourists have an edge when they’re gaming on weekends in the bars and clubs.
For example: I went to a bachelor party in Montreal last weekend. First time visiting the city. Now for one, the women where I live (San Francisco) don’t even come close to comparing with the talent in Montreal. Secondly, the fact that I was an American visiting from a city Montrealians consider cool made hooking up a much easier process. Travel game ftw.
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“There has been an argument that inventions come from betas, and I take the position that they don’t.”
I’m not sure the popular concept of “invention” is the accurate one for describing what really happens. Larger organizations can only see 2 quarters ahead at best. Most engineer types are betas. It is important to the process but if you only had them, then progress would be predictable but slow. I’m not sure beta worship is the path to progress.
Most people are flat out too pussy to stick their necks out and try something truly new. I see it all the time… they are worried about making their mortgage (hmmmm…. did they really need that house) or keeping some wussy concept of security like “health insurance” to actually go use their skills in a new way. I’ve had a lot of trouble recruiting intellectually qualified people into riskier endeavors just simply because they were wimps.
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Masterdeviance
Travelling also tends to bring out the inner alter ego. I found that as a travelling salesman I was more outgoing at clubs when on the road.
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Spiralinia:
“If I’m 40 and lucky enough have a good husband who treats my kids well, I’m hardly going to begrudge him a young hottie on the side.”
Well what if the man wants more kids? 40 year old eggs are no good. And having affairs is more than just a fuck buddy. Not that I wouldn’t have preferred “open marriage”. Also at some point I’ll age too and my fuck buddy quality will go down unless I can dangle the carrot of marriage in front of women.
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I started following this blog a few months ago. However your posts are no longer of any value.
This post was the final straw. The fact that you’re incapable of recognizing the fact that not everybody wants to screw their girl in the ass, makes your advice no longer possible to relate to.
Reader beware.
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Jerrdog
In some cultures its not uncommon for the man to get his wifely needs in one place and at least some of his sexual needs in another. Asia and Europe, come to mind.
And giving kids to a concubine is also possible, if you can afford them. It happens.
It’s that dynamic that I’m looking to follow. A lot of people agree that having a long term partner for support and stability is a big benefit in life. And men really do hunger for variety. So this is a common and accepted solution in many places.
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i guess i could “stay married” get an “au pair” and knock her up ….
but i like to invest time in my kids…. and 1/2 the DNA’s from the chick… i’d rather it be a tougher and smarter but still hot woman.
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This goes back to the Suckers vs. Fuckers reality of the moden no-fault-divorce world. Whom do you want to be?
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Jerrdog — What do the inventors of Television (Idaho Spud farmer Philo T. Farnsworth), the airplane, the light bulb, the telephone, the Colt 1911 (and many other firearms), the Colt Revolver, and the flashlight all have in common?
Answer: all nerdy, loner, tinkerer types who love taking things apart (Iron Man did a good job of portraying that aspect as the “real” Tony Stark, not the playboy image).
Those guys are the ones who make the big conceptual leaps to game-changing technology. They’re often obsessed by it. Lose those genes and you lose tomorrow’s technology.
Technology just does not “happen” by it’s own.
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i was the equivalent of the skittles woman once. i’d been dating a guy for a year, and we planned a dinner to celebrate our anniversary. he was an engineer, so i figured he’d be the typical non-emotional engineer and get me a card. i got him a card in expectation…
after dinner, he disappears (goes to the parking lot) and comes back with a bag. inside the bag is a frame containing [without going into detail] an amazing relic of our year together. it was so sentimental i wanted to cry.
and all i had for him was the card.
i felt like absolute shit. we had talked about it ahead of time and decided we’d keep it a low-key kind of event. but i’ve never felt so embarassed.
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you know, upon further reflection, i guess my example is really not a “skittles guy” scenario. i think i was just a bad girlfriend.
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So a drunken friend cheats on a wife that he cares for with a chubby local broad(small skiing town) DRUNK. I’ve seen this. We tried to stop him; to no avail.
He cried the whole way home. He told his wife, against our counsel. They seem okay now, although the future is untold.
Is brutal honesty a beta trait?
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Maybe, but that’s not how I’d see it. You were just being a woman – a real woman, not the idealized kind. He had not had enough experience yet to know how to push your buttons.
Not enough experience/training.
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Elaborating. Dude doesnt strike me as socially/sexually incompetent. Its easy to lie and he knows that I and the other friend would never rat him out. What inspires a man to tell his wife that he fucked someone else?
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Technology just does not “happen” by it’s own
whiskey, why then a whole society of these people, like China or Japan, doesn’t lead the world in technology?
No matter how many nerds are working under him, the crucial man for the Human Genoma is Craig Venter, as alpha as it gets. The human genoma can only be discovered under the leadership of a Craig Venter in a society organyzed to let its Craig Venters prosper.
Relatively speaking, he’ll have virgin genius under him, while he fucks all the Victoria’s Secret Angels. In China, where Craig Venters are effectively castrated, the sexual disparity between the boss and the nerds under him will be much lower, but China needs to spy America, and not the opposite
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Do you ever read Mencius Moldbug? You have much in common.
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There are a variety of alpha types. Skittles man is asshole alpha. This kind of alpha, taken to this extreme, creates all kinds of sturm und drang and crazy drama in his life. What kind of man can tolerate (or secretly revel in) this kind of drama? Ironically, a very feminine one — probably one raised primarily by women. I’ll pass.
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Both the Skittles asshole and the guy with the expensive flowers sound like worthless cocks. Also what the fuck is this alpha beta shit. People are primates, not wolves. That kind of cocksnottery doesn’t even make sense.
Baww men are victims and handicapped by womennnnn. Let’s all be like skittles guy and live a lifelong conquest for pussy because we have nothing interesting except for sex going on in our lives.
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db
lmfao you really douchebagged your old bf. not together anymore you say?
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sage advice here. i hope lots of readers will really think about what he says here and put it to use. words mean things and convey much deeper meanings to others than we really appreciate on the surface
communications are huge
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and how easy is it to grab hold of destiny.
YEAR 1 1.00 100,000
YEAR 2 1.00 200,000
YEAR 3 1.00 400,000
YEAR 4 1.00 800,000
YEAR 5 1.00 1,600,000
YEAR 6 1.00 3,200,000
YEAR 7 1.00 6,400,000
YEAR 8 1.00 12,800,000
YEAR 9 1.00 25,600,000
YEAR 10 1.00 51,200,000
YEAR 11 1.00 102,400,000
YEAR 12 1.00 204,800,000
YEAR 13 1.00 409,600,000
YEAR 14 1.00 819,200,000
YEAR 15 1.00 1,638,400,000
YEAR 16 1.00 3,276,800,000
YEAR 17 1.00 6,553,600,000
YEAR 18 1.00 13,107,200,000
YEAR 19 1.00 26,214,400,000
YEAR 20 1.00 52,428,800,000
YEAR 21 1.00 104,857,600,000
YEAR 22 1.00 209,715,200,000
YEAR 23 1.00 419,430,400,000
YEAR 24 1.00 838,860,800,000
YEAR 25 1.00 1,677,721,600,000
YEAR 26 1.00 3,355,443,200,000
YEAR 27 1.00 6,710,886,400,000
YEAR 28 1.00 13,421,772,800,000
YEAR 29 1.00 26,843,545,600,000
YEAR 30 1.00 53,687,091,200,000
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I can’t even fucking believe what the fuck they proposed to do in the 900 billion dollar package. Where in the fuck is the vision.
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z
ha ha
why not be a loser who doesn’t blow your dough and be a skittles man?
Why not indeed? It’s a free country.
Its certainly cheaper.
Cheap it is.
You yourself complained, “but what a choice” when referencing flowers-man. Out of thine own mouth he has convicted thee.
Reach for it z!
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Firepower@
I prefer the American over the French. I think almost a million people died in one province alone during the French reign of terror.
And it is possible, possible, for an organized, focused, and determined group to agree on certain broad principles and work towards a revolution within the status quo.
Their success however, I really honestly think, is slim. Because the current status quo is the end result of over 2 centuries of constant social revolution, buying off token aggrieved groups here and there, restructuring society, education, and basically being busy bees in an orderly beehive to demolish an older moral regime to create a space for a newer one. The buying off part is important, in every order there are winners and losers, under the ancien regime certain women and minorities go the short end of the stick in certain ways. This generates resentment. It makes a population of people easy to co-opt and pacify if you convince them that your revolution is in their best interests.
I still maintain that the best thing a group of determined discontents can do is build their own order, even in the modern world.
Hell take 3 billionaires with common interests and they can do whatever the hell they like, build whatever they like, pick an island in the third world, get in good graces with the sovereign entity that owns it, propose a purchase and give them a good set of value propositions. Purchase in a non fee simple, land patent type of deal, get their ink on paper and also request an autonomous, or semi sovereign status. Propose a total free trade zone, minimal taxes, using an exchangeable currency, get the best and the brightest you want to recruit, form a corporate entity, etc. Find some industry you can specialize your manpower/mindpower in, etc. You can have a modern haven of capitalism more relevant than Dubai, a magnet for the best and the brightest
No unrealistic it has been done before. Microstates dot history, and are fascinating to read about.
These are subversive thoughts, actually, if anyone understands their real import. So with plausible deniability if anyone pulls this off I was simply engaging in a mental exercise, right?
There are two options; revolution, or building your own. Of the former, there is the US/Girondists/Burke/Classical Liberal track, and the French/Russian/Jacobin/Radical track
I honestly suggest that the building option is no where near as unrealistic as one may be tempted to dismiss it as… and gives determined men the possibility to do something every man secretly wants, on some level…
To take the lead in a new order of things.
Just my opinion.
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Kamal S.
either way when you roll the dice, the results you get are the American Revolution 1 : 100
and Khmer Rouge, Mao, Stalin, Jacobins & Robespierre 1 : 1.5
Sadly, billionaires are the least reactionary of a current status quo; they are the grateful, hedonistic beneficiaries of a system that rewards their behavior.
The Donald is no Che.
I bet those 3rd world banana republics seize their isolated Utopian treasures once it becomes advantageous to do so.
I still like the way you write.
Might makes right.
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no YOU miss the point that nobody here, NOBODY, called skittles guy classy. we’re saying that he’s the kind of guy that gets a lot of pussy. duh.
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“Guys without class don’t get pussy from anything other than low-class woman. It kind of makes sense. A woman can obviously be extremely attractive and still be a low-class skank.”
i hear women saying this all the time. It is a David Alexander rationalization, if by definition the only women who would lay with such men are, in your eyes, skanks, then the blessed Saint Dymphna herself could make an error of judgment along these lines and you would condemn her as a skank.
I have seen the best of women, the best women I know, women who very well could be better than you perhaps, of the greatest intelligence and virtue, on occasion give their hearts away on gold platters to men so scummy as to defy belief. Women of good breeding, manners, and heart. Like moths flying into flames.
It happens often. Yes, more often with trashy femes, but just as well with higher quality women. All of the best of the women I’ve known who have made .. errors in judgment later bounce back and are much more selective in their choices of men.
Deep down inside you know, however, that what you are saying is a lie. A self serving justification.
No harsh feelings, just pointing out the obvious. Calling good women skanks for doing something that seems almost intrinsic to the female nature at some time in their lives is really, really, low of you.
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umm wow. Guys without class don’t get pussy from anything other than low-class woman. It kind of makes sense. A woman can obviously be extremely attractive and still be a low-class skank.
feel free to believe whatever it takes to help you sleep at night babe…nope, classy women who fall for macho, insensitive cads are so incredibly rare…women of good breeding always make great relationship choices and never fall for asshole men who are beneath their station…i have some pixie dust to sell you too!
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Kamal S. said :
Every man, at every age, has seen his civilization as the end point of civilization proper, and worthy of saving. Some remained, others fell and were replaced.
It is more accurate to say those benefiting form the status quo of every society have always been constantly screaming about how wonderful that society is. Even if they are driving that society over a cliff and know it.
They are the ‘winners’ in that society, and they get the press they want. And their press says “RA! RA! RA!”.
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Truly excellent post.
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“The matriarchy in all its silly manifestations — is structured to handicap men.”
No bud, it’s “structured to handicap” only the losers among men. It leaves the real men unscathed.
“The matriarchy loathes and fears Skittle Man, the freeloader who nonetheless basks in the love of many women.”
You got that one backward as well. The marrying chump is the one that the “matriarchy” really abhors. It rewards the Skittles guy, and always will.
It’s funny, because you understand 90% of the Game, but that last 10% always eludes you, and it’s the most important part!
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[…] She was so appreciative that I actually bought her something. Since she has a rationalization hamster telling her she is a “classy sophisticated goddess,” she still has a sarcastically dismissive, throw-her-hands-in-the-air attitude about my stinginess around her, but she accepts the rules. Thank you, Skittles Man. […]
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@Chic noir
“Question to the readers: If you had Bill Gates billions, how much would you leave to your children? Would you put stipulations on how they could spend what you leave them?”
All of it.
No.
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One of my favorite posts here thus far.
Aspirations to be a skittles man, when the opportunity avails itself. This is a cool ambition.
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