August 6, 2009 by CH
I can’t believe this has to be said, but…
in the matter of sex and love, to appropriate a quote from Bill Munny: “Deservin’s got nothing to do with it”.
So to all you twisted freaks and neomaxizimdweebies, stop and think before fingerpainting your neuroses all over the comment section.
Thanku.
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The way I see it-
He did not like how he was treated and did something about it (in the manner he felt was most appropriate).
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Lucifer is like the second David Alexander, except he pays for sex instead of using his free hand.
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Mandy! XD,
Have you ever considered that I might not care about what some cunt thinks.
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Nothing is finer than a GNP.
Peter
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amen! i’ve been waiting for you to come out and say something like this, roissy. if you’re a man and you can’t get laid then learn some game, learn to settle, or have fun with world of warcraft.
all the talk about beta revolutions and rape as a valid political tool sounds just as goofy as the shit you can read over at jezebel and feministing.
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ps – reading all the comments from women who have come here from jezebel, feministing, and wherever else just reinforces one thing to me: women, by and large, are completely unable or unwilling to recognize the male behavior that successfully attracts them.
roissy, you should be keeping some sort of running tally of how many comments you get saying, ‘what’s with all the games, guys? just be yourself.’
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Lance,
The problem is that men have options other than the ones you mention.. and once people are pushed beyond a certain limit these options look desirable.
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I like that this post has already become the epitome of a Roissy in DC comment war; We’ve mocked DA and Mindy, and Peter has launched into a GNP tangent. We just need one of these:
*Obligatory expectation of racial debate*
and the illusion is complete.
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No, Sean.
No more race debates.
Please.
Nonononononono.
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Naa roissy the deservin thing was said by the feministas not roissy normal people. They where baiting for saying blabla
I got them to be like omg suicide crazy you must be sick. Then brought out the abortion bomb of woman killing innocent babies on daily basis. Should be stopped to protect there souls. Anyway.
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lucifer,
i don’t know to what specific options you are referring, but when you talk about people being pushed beyond their limits i assume you’re talking about violence and other sociopath behavior. from a purely descriptive standpoint, you may be right. that, however, does not justify such behavior.
it’s like when people argue that ghetto riots are a valid means of political protest, or terrorism is a legitimate response from oppressed muslims, or that radical feminism is needed to correct existing injustices. it’s all whining, complaining, and bullshit.
the biggest problem with contemporary america is that everyone seems to think they are entitled to something that they’re being denied. we’ve become a nation of willing victims looking for pity, and it’s a little bit disgusting.
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Some will feel revulsion and be sick then right when they feel that disgusted feeling that someone wanted to take there own life they will hit the killing baby comments and hopefully something may click in their head.
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Ghetto riots were counter productive. More real, absolute political power would have been achieved by a long emphasis on trade and higher education making Blacks a powerful economic force.
Terrorism is counter-productive. Neither India nor Israel being democracies could have long stood against peaceful, non-violent demonstrations for Kashmir or the West Bank, though it’s unlikely complete success would have been achieved. But significant and permanent territorial concessions would have been a lock cinch.
Killing people and committing suicide are counter-productive. Pray what exactly did Soldini actually accomplish? Anything? Did he change anyone’s mind?
A hunger strike in Times Square against modern life isolation would have been fare more effective, it certainly would have made him famous, in a good way, and certainly SOME woman would have slept with him for no other reason than he was, famous.
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Raine you can’t just label a baby a fetus and negate it. Oh wait ya can now. That may be part of the problem. Thing is it even looks like a baby when they suck it out.
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””””””Whiskey,
A hunger strike in Times Square against modern life isolation would have been fare more effective, it certainly would have made him famous, in a good way, and certainly SOME woman would have slept with him for no other reason than he was, famous.
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Yea I think a valid point on that. Hunger strike would probably be viable.
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Whaddya mean? This blog is all about deep-seated neuroses smearing 😀
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Gunslingergregi,
I think he was on an involuntary strike for 20 years, but no one cared.
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LR
Newborn babies aren’t actually able to do anything on their own. Leave one in the table after birth and see how long it lasts.
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Lance,
Why do you expect someone at the receiving end of “sociopathic” behavior for most of his life to not return that favor?
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Dang mandy been here a while. No swearing. Real woman. Good lord.
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“the biggest problem with contemporary america is that everyone seems to think they are entitled to something that they’re being denied. we’ve become a nation of willing victims looking for pity, and it’s a little bit disgusting.”
Well said lance.
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Actually, “deservin'” does have to do with it, in the sense that men who don’t get laid often have low self-esteem and sabotage their own best efforts because deep down they feel they “don’t deserve it”. Whereas PUAs and alphas have a high sense of “deservingness”.
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But that argument holds no water, because babies are just as dependent after they are born as before.
Women have the role of being the incubators of the species — that’s the reality. When women abuse that power by killing the human being that is being incubated inside them, they are acting as murderers. It really *is* that simple.
The funny thing about the terminology that feminism has shoved down everyone’s throats on this is that women who *want* the baby refer to it as their “baby”, and never as a “fetus”. You never hear “Oh, my fetus was kicking inside me today!” or “Wow the ultrasound pictures of my fetus were so amazing.”.
It’s all hypocrisy.
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It’s really just a semantic argument… but anyway, a fetus in early term simply cannot exist without the mother. Close to the third trimester it can exist outside of the womb if there is artificial support, and a baby born at full term, as you noted, needs to be fed by someone or it will die. But the differences is that at its early term, most parasitic state, it truly cannot exist without direct biological connection to the mother. Thus, it is a parasite. Once born, it can at least be fed by anyone, and it is far less parasite-like.
Holler.
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at this stage, I would be surprised if Peter did NOT have a coat made of human GNP
(not like Little Bill)
but Wild Bill
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Hey vomit, you know, the part of science that’s just semantics? That’s not the science part, or the facts part, and yes, those are different too.
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Characterizing a fetus as a “parasite” is literally and scientifically stupid and wrong. It is merely a bad analogy that emerges from political views, not scientific knowledge.
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Jeezus, THANK YOU Roissy.
Your regular commenters and I have been clashing with these fools over this, which has wasted space and time. There is this wrongheaded persistence in believing that someone has reneged on a deal that doesn’t exist in the first place.
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lapin
Or maybe expectation based on past experiences.
Deservingness carries the connotation that you can rest on your laurels, or that you don’t even need laurels. It’s entitlement. Confidence is different.
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Hey foog – are you a doctor? I am. Shut yet pie hole and live with my parasitic goodness.
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LR and other feminista dumbasses: a parasitical relationship can only exist between two organisms of different I>species. So, as Jacques pointed out, the fetus/mother physiological relationship cannot be thought of as parasitical, except in the metaphorical sense (and even there it is a value-laden distortion). Females are built to bear offspring…holy shit take the ideological blinkers off for one second.
And, as Mandy Been Here a While and Chuck pointed out, infant babies are no more able to survive on their own than a fetus is. The implicit attempt to find some bright line in the gestation and birthing process before which we say we have a non-person (fetus), and after which a person (baby) is doomed to failure because the concept of “personhood” is not wholly grounded in just the physical facts-of-the-matter. The concept of “personhood” necessarily introduces metaphysics (of some kind, even in very minimal and bare bones), and value-judgments.
There is virtually no physical difference between a fetus/baby within 20 minutes of birth, and an infant 20 minutes after birth. No difference large enough, certainly, that would lead a neutral observer to categorize the one simply a biomass and the other as a full-fledged “person”.
It is our collective, and particularly leftist women’s, inability to look squarely in the face of what abortion truly is – i.e., a procedure based on the conclusion that not all life is equally valuable, and that in some circumstances some have the (legal) right to determine whether another lives or dies – that has led to all this convoluted sophistry about the point at which a “fetus” becomes a “person”.
It’s tough to look abortion squarely in the face, because the uncomfortable conclusion is that the reasoning behind abortion can also easily be shifted to infanticide and euthanasia. Without squid ink rhetorical tricks, the line from the one to the others is clear and bright.
I say all this as someone who doesn’t want to see abortion laws changed, btw, and who is more or less an atheist (at least as far as every religion I’ve ever heard about goes). But, to me, intellectual honesty demands that we not tell pretty lies about ourselves regarding abortion. I>Of course a fetus is a human. This is obvious. It’s legal to kill this human…this is the law. Draw your conclusions from there.
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I disagree I think I deserve every hot piece of ass and hard body because I am awesome and godlike.
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A fetus definitely has a parasitical relationship to the mother as it draws resources and nutrients away from her, and to itself, while giving nothing beneficial back, and in fact, causes harm by doing so.
A fetus is solely dependent on the person to who its placenta is attached. An infant can be taken care of by anyone, or even by the state, should it so choose. A person currently cannot be compelled to take of care another person by forcing one to donate blood, organs, and nutrients to the other. Why should have fetuses have more rights than regular people?
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Anonymous – a womb is built to bear offspring, a stomach is not built to house tapeworms.
Members of a mammalian, social species (such as homo sap) are not simply individual automatons floating around fully independent of one another. Reproduction is about as essential to species survival you can get, and about as natural as can be imagined.
That your feminist-inspired ideology has so alienated you from what should be a very basic insight into human (and animal) nature speaks volumes as to the bankruptcy of the mindset you represent.
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Anonymous – a womb is built to bear offspring, a stomach is not built to house tapeworms.
From the tapeworm’s point of view, a stomach was made for carrying tapeworms. From the person carrying the tapeworm, a different perspective is usually taken.
I’m sure a male preying mantis whose head gets eaten off during reproduction has a different perspective on “the natural order of things” than the female who does the eating.
People who volunteer to be pregannat should certainly be allowed to do so. People who don’t want to be pregnant shouldn’t be forced. It is really that simple.
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anony
so do you agree that sperm donors who don’t want to PAY for the children a woman wants shouldn’t be forced to?
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To summarize then, vomit, you’re someone who claims to be a doctor on the internet. When you’re wrong about something else, and worse, when you like to make up categories that don’t usefully distinguish between offspring and tapeworms.
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[…] FYI « Roissy in DC By roissy A hunger strike in Times Square against modern life isolation would have been fare more effective, it certainly would have made him famous, in a good way, and certainly SOME woman would have slept with him for no other reason than he was, famous. … Actually, “deservin'” does have to do with it, in the sense that men who don't get laid often have low self-esteem and sabotage their own best efforts because deep down they feel they “don't deserve it”. … Roissy in DC – http://roissy.wordpress.com/ […]
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“The funny thing about the terminology that feminism has shoved down everyone’s throats on this is that women who *want* the baby refer to it as their “baby”, and never as a “fetus”. You never hear “Oh, my fetus was kicking inside me today!” or “Wow the ultrasound pictures of my fetus were so amazing.”.”
My friend is calling her future son ‘Cletus the Fetus’ for the duration of the pregnancy. Women give their fetii that they plan on nourishing with their body until it becomes a baby, all kinds of nicknames. Plenty of them will call one a fetus.
“Of course a fetus is a human. This is obvious. It’s legal to kill this human…this is the law. Draw your conclusions from there.”
Yeah, this is something everyone needs to admit.
Of course, I think there is an big difference between a human fetus 3 months after conception who cannot survive outside the human womb it’s in, a human fetus 5 1/2 months after conception who has a chance at survival with millions of dollars worth of medical treatment (in much of Europe they let these people die), a 10-minute-old human baby human breathing on it’s own, an adult who has been brain-dead for 6 years, etc. Different rules apply to all of them.
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in the matter of sex and love, to appropriate a quote from Bill Munny: “Deservin’s got nothing to do with it”.
Thank you Roissy.
Today, I just encountered some photos of “my ten” on the pc by chance. She looks like a nine, an eight even in somo photos.
It also made me think about her personality faults while struggling to find her awesome photos in bikini…
The point is, all of us have flaws. And maybe it’s not worth it all this suffering because deservin’s got nothing to do with it.
I needed to hear that, Roissy.
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Anonymous – I don’t care about your position on abortion, as you probability don’t care about mine. (Which I made clear in an earlier comment, but ultimately who cares.)
What I do care about in this instance, is the disingenuousness the use of the term “parasite” to describe a growing fetus. Look up the term in a dictionary…google “parasitism”. It involves organisms of different species. Period, full stop. The wiki article talks about other feature of parasitism, e.g. that the parasite species usually reproduces at a much more rapid pace than the host species.
Get that? Are the “gestating” tapeworms inside a tapeworm parasitic upon this genuine parasite?
I honestly don’t give a shit about abortion. But don’t hide behind illusions and sophistry. Look the facts clearly in the eye. A fetus is a human, it is not a parasite on the mother. Look squarely in the face the fact that abortion is the killing of humans. Is it “murder”? Not my point. Is it “immoral”? Not my point. Is doing so a legitimate “right” for wymyn? Not my point.
My point is those who advocate abortion typically play verbal games with themselves to lessen the impact of what they’re advocating (the killing of a human). It reduces the cognitive dissonance.
One of these smoke & mirror tricks is the “parasite” game.
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This dude was gay.
There was no way you go 20 yrs w/o sex. Plain and simple.
In his ramblings, he notes his net worth is $250,000 and he owns the house, has a new Nissan, and a recent raise/promotion….so not beta on $$.
As a public service announcement, and to deter future mass murders I present 10 tips that could have saved this guy….from the basic to extreme.
1-Sell lame house; move to hip townhouse complex or condo downtown…never buy a @ 2br.
2-Decorate….kill the a/v shit, put up artwork, have a bar, build game room/screening room…throw out all boxes. junk, storage, etc.
3-Invest in cool clothes, haircut, teeth, lose mustach
4- For same money as Nissan he could have had base Camaro, Mustang, Challenger, Solstice or used Vette, BMW, Boxster
6-Get hookers
7-Hit Brazil, Thailand and East. Europe for mail order brides
8-Throw parties; people are cheap and will come for free booz/food
9-Get Therapy
10-Get a matchmaker
Main lesson is that $250,000K and moent spend on crap apartment/car could have easily been spent to improve life.
Spend the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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What kind of sick fuck justifies killing their BABY by referring to HIM OR HER as a parasite?! What a sad twisted mentality. Too bad your mother didn’t have that mentality, huh?
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punctilious post. simply one decimal where I bicker with it. I am emailing you in detail.
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Well silver if he would have invested that shit and then just used all the free time to run game he might have been ok.
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Thanks for that caveat, Roissy. I’ve stayed out of the conversation because I’m shocked at some posters claiming this guy “deserved” to get laid by 25-year-olds and saying the victims brought on their own fates by denying him sex.
Sounds great! We’ll gladly spread our legs for “nice guy” loner men who frighten and repel us, as long as you guys agree to bang “nice girl” fatties and warpigs. Hey, we all deserve to get laid for being nice people and contributing so much to society!
Are we even reading the same blog?!?
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Most of all this is beside the point. Roissy and the fembot critics here are all right insofar as no given individual male has a “right” to get laid.
The point, which all but Whiskey, Obsidian, and A-Bax miss, is that we have created a very large class of men that aren’t getting any AS A CONSCIOUS PUBLIC POLICY CHOICE!
From IMBRA, VAWA, CEDAW and Title IX right down to the war on urinals waged in Scandinavia, the goals of feminist-friendly public policy in all western nations are identical to those of Orwell’s Junior Anti-Sex League. And to the extent that they have been successful, they have shut out large numbers of men from the pussy market.
Therefore, as Obsidian has pointed out, not only wasn’t the case a mere fifty years ago, but what brought us to that point was a great deal of turmoil, trial and error. Now we have fucked it up big time and are returning to the status quo ante with all attendant dysfunctions–a situation where maybe 35-40% of men experience any pussy at all. Life under those circumstances is not going to be a pleasant experience–especially for women!
In the future, expect not only more George Sodinis, but I’ll wager that within ten years or so we will start seeing assassinations of prominent cunt politicians and judges.
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Quoting Clint Eastwood will hopefully mean that his overpowering manliness will drip onto the betas and omegas crapping up the comments section and cause them to miraculously grow a pair of balls and STFU.
Also, watch High Plains Drifter for Alpha behaviour. Comes into town and rapes a woman and later her gina is dripping for him.
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@Breeze: I don’t think movies paint an accurate picture of relations between the genders. The only thing that’s clearly coming across is the outlook of the writer and director. Who are usually men.
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