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The Perfect Answer To “I Have A Boyfriend”

September 1, 2009 by CH

After Zeets’ barbarous romp through the SWPL cookout of the year, the Asian girl in attendance decided she couldn’t get enough of his Conanical brusqueness and the two of them went on a date a month later. Before the date, Zeets was informed by various palace guards and court whisperers that the Asian girl had a semi-serious boyfriend. This didn’t stop him.

ME: How’d the date go?

ZEETS: Pretty damn good. She’s into me, it’s easy to tell.

ME: How so?

ZEETS: Just the way she laughed at all my jokes. She smiled every time I spoke. And then back at my place we were sitting on the couch, and I started kissing her neck. She moaned loudly, high-pitched, like a horny kitten. I wonder if all Asian girls moan that loudly.

ME: So you got her back to your beastly sanctum.

ZEETS: On the ride over, she said “You know I have a boyfriend.”

ME: Oh boy, here we go. What’d you say?

ZEETS: I looked her right in the eye and said “I don’t care.” She didn’t say anything, but her eyes sparkled with lust.

******

There it is, folks. The perfect answer to the “I have a boyfriend” plaintive demurral, the last moist gasp of a blushing gina about to succumb to a torrent of tingles.

“I don’t care.”

Have there ever been three more beautiful words in the English language? “I love you”? Pshaw. Too plebian. A beta’s cheap substitute for passion. But “I don’t care” encapsulates the essence of alphaness; aloofness, assholery, and authority are communicated in the split second it takes to spit these three wondrous words.

It’s one of the premiere Alpha Phrases, and definitely qualifies as One Word Game, the powerful new seduction system which I am currently developing with a team of crack pussy aficionados.

As with all sciences dealing in the nebulosity of human behavior, there are contingencies and caveats in the use of the nuclear “I don’t care” game changer. One, don’t say it with anger. The words must escape your lips on a pitch of perfect neutrality, perhaps laced with a hint of impatience. Two, context matters. As I wrote in my post on handling the “I have a boyfriend” shit test, the timing of the BF bomb will determine your best response. If she tosses it at you right after you’ve said “Hi” (or worse, on the walk over), your “I don’t care” reply could incite resentment and anger. She’s saying it to get rid of you, not shit test you. But if she says it later, after you’ve gamed her for a minute and sparked her interest, then treat the BF line for what it is — a crass shit test, and a reflexive id-shaped anti-slut blurt. “I don’t care” should be your go-to answer.

Forget every other line you’ve read or heard; the “I don’t care” insta-rejoinder reigns supreme. Besides Zeets, two other men have told me about the lubricated reactions they got from girls when they responded with “I don’t care” after getting heaved on by the “I have a boyfriend” upchuck.

And why limit yourself?

HER: I don’t think I’ll have any free time this week to meet up.

YOU: I don’t care.

***

HER: Sorry I’m late.

YOU: I don’t care.

***

HER: I didn’t cum.

YOU: I don’t care.

***

HER: How many girls have you slept with?

YOU: I don’t care.

***

HER: I’m breaking up with you.

YOU: I don’t care.

***

HER: Do you love me?

YOU: I don’t care.

Can anyone deny that the man in each of the above scenarios comes off as totally alpha? Would you be embarrassed to have these conversational snippets of your love life shown on a Jumbotron in front of thousands? I wouldn’t. In fact, I’d beam with pride.

I now predict the overuse of “I don’t care” by millions of apprentice betas. Soon, saturation will mean that girls will respond with something equally witty or with an expert level shit test they deem unassailable. I will give the ladies no ideas here. The sexual arms race continues, straddling the Vaginot line between mutually assured destruction and mutually assured pleasure.

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  1. on September 1, 2009 at 1:49 pm Brad

    That’s pretty damn good.

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  2. on September 1, 2009 at 1:52 pm Seeking Alpha

    You think this would work on anyone or only girls coasting through their relationship? You mentioned something about this in the past couple of days.

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  3. on September 1, 2009 at 1:53 pm The truth

    Who cares if millions of betas use this line….. I really don’t care. Really.

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  4. on September 1, 2009 at 1:53 pm Brad

    Roissy do you think that this could be said with a mischievous alpha half-smile, a raised eyebrow and a wink? I think eluding “I don’t care” with the look of “I’m going make you wish you didn’t” beaming with confidence is better than coming off a little “impatient” as you stated it was best to do.

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  5. on September 1, 2009 at 1:53 pm Chuck

    Boyfriend Destroyer Game begets Destroyer Neutralization Game. Of course it involves the Destroyer plying his trade with the boyfriend present.

    http://chuckross.blogspot.com/2009/08/extension-of-relationship-game.html

    Women are moral relativists. She seeks collusion in the act, someone who thinks her cheating is no big deal. Of course, she asks the one guy who is going to go along with her trick, but its enough to help her feel OK about it.

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  6. on September 1, 2009 at 1:53 pm Tupac Chopra

    It lets women off the hook.

    “I didn’t seduce him. He seduced me.”

    Plausible deniability, baby.

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  7. on September 1, 2009 at 1:54 pm el chief

    Her: “I got a man”
    Positive K: “What’s yo man go to do with me?”
    Her: “I got a man”
    Positive K: “I ain’t tryin to her dat, see?”

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  8. on September 1, 2009 at 1:55 pm Manny C.

    Once again, delivery is key. Betas will overuse it, but they’ll do so either with a shit-eating grin and an overenthusiastic twinkle in their eye, or they’ll mumble it while staring at their feet.

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  9. on September 1, 2009 at 1:57 pm el chief

    *hear dat, not her dat. DAMMIT

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  10. on September 1, 2009 at 1:58 pm Thursday

    Completely unrelated.

    I’ve ordered Roald Dahl’s Switch Bitch and My Uncle Oswald. Apparently Dahl knew a thing or two about women in real life. See here.

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  11. on September 1, 2009 at 2:00 pm Valiant

    Thanks your this.

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  12. on September 1, 2009 at 2:00 pm Thursday

    And for more literary goodness today, we might as well throw in Rochester’s Ramble in St. James Park.

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  13. on September 1, 2009 at 2:02 pm Valiant

    minus the first s above:)

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  14. on September 1, 2009 at 2:04 pm Caligula

    Another good answer I’ve used a few times:

    “Well, he’s not MY fucking boyfriend” delivered in a cocky way, with a smile. Then proceed.

    Works well if the vibe is right.

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  15. on September 1, 2009 at 2:07 pm el chief

    instead of “I don’t care”, I generally prefer “meh”, or just a shoulder shrug.

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  16. on September 1, 2009 at 2:11 pm Caligula

    And then, if you get it as a shit test earlier one, you can always use the classic (where’s this from? Mystery?)

    “We’ve only known each other for X minutes and you’re already telling me about your problems?” Smile. Change subject.

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  17. on September 1, 2009 at 2:14 pm The G Manifesto

    she said “You know I have a boyfriend.”

    Response: He is probably with my girl.

    “I don’t care” is a great response.

    But, I like to be even more economical in my response:

    “I care”

    Delivered with superfight staredown intensity (see Hagler VS Hearns)

    – MPM

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  18. on September 1, 2009 at 2:15 pm askjoe

    I guess there’s no need to tell her that you are mentally grading her loyalty too. Hmm, good girlfriend material? waits until the trip back to my place for the BFST? So, yeah, I don’t care, it’s not like she’s going to last. And it’s not like Z is gonna marry her.

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  19. on September 1, 2009 at 2:15 pm Chad69

    The Chad-Man’s favourite response, which I’m pretty sure I didn’t make up but I’ll take credit for anyways:

    “No problem, so does my girlfriend”

    IME a significant number of non-westernized Asian girls make crying noises during sex. Feel free to make the obvious “You’re doing it wrong” joke here.

    Peace.

    Chad

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  20. on September 1, 2009 at 2:18 pm Brad

    Another great way to handle “I have a boyfriend” is by saying:
    I realize that this is a great accomplishment for you, but for everyone else that’s just a regular day-to-day thing.

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  21. on September 1, 2009 at 2:20 pm Caligula

    On a related note, a good boyfriend destroyer is – when a girl says her boyfriend [insert any beta behaviour] – to respond “you should hang on to him. Because I would never do that. Seriously, he does that?” with a bemused smile.

    This will smoke out and amplify any nagging doubts she has regarding her boyfriend’s beta ways.

    Used with great effectiveness by a friend of mine recently. He kissed her in plain sight of three of her friends, all of whom knew her boyfriend. They repeatedly tried cockblocking and generally wondered what the fuck was going on.

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  22. on September 1, 2009 at 2:26 pm MNL

    Roissy… “Vaginot line”

    Absolutely perfect.

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  23. on September 1, 2009 at 2:29 pm biktopia

    I don’t care….

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  24. on September 1, 2009 at 2:36 pm Firepower

    She moaned loudly, high-pitched, like a horny kitten. I wonder if all Asian girls moan that loudly.

    As most have to hump for the roof over their head, the answer is a non-inscrutable yes. Loosely translated as “singing for your supper”

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  25. on September 1, 2009 at 2:38 pm MNL

    The “I don’t care” line in response to the boyfriend reference can work equally well when brought up in an LTR conversation and when your s.o. attempts to beta-ize you by comparing you with some old, prehistoric boyfriend and how he did XYZ. In that situation, her mention of the BF is a clear shit test. Respond accordingly, gentlemen. If you address the comment in any direct way, it’s gonna be a fail.

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  26. on September 1, 2009 at 2:38 pm JB

    This sorta caveman-type game works pretty well on SWPLs, which is why I think this response was perfect.

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  27. on September 1, 2009 at 2:41 pm towson

    This is the truth. Those 3 words have worked wonders

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  28. on September 1, 2009 at 2:43 pm Talleyrand

    Brilliant in it’s simplicity.

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  29. on September 1, 2009 at 2:44 pm Trouble

    Why bother with an answer at all? Simply look at her for 2 seconds with a smile/smirk and go about your business.

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  30. on September 1, 2009 at 2:50 pm CunningLinguist

    …always believed sexual anticipation is the greatest gift you can give a fully clothed woman – this is one of those gifts to be given.

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  31. on September 1, 2009 at 2:51 pm maurice

    This is, of course, lifted from the great Robert Mitchum. In “Out of the Past”, my favorite film noir, he is on the beach in Mexico with the barefoot and glorious Jane Greer, whom he has been sent to bring back to his gangster former employer. He falls for her instead, even though she turns out to be the ultimate femme fatale. Where will we go? she asks. Will he find us? What will he do to us? answer: “Baby, I don’t care.” (Kiss.)

    That line was actually the title of his biography that came out about ten years ago, because it captures his whole persona as a movie star. Plainly one of the sources of his alpha appeal.

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  32. on September 1, 2009 at 2:55 pm Pupu

    The most colorful and diverse avatar thread so far!

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  33. on September 1, 2009 at 2:56 pm km

    My best result with an “I have a boyfriend” test was a calm toned “That’s nice … I don’t have a boyfriend … now that that’s out of the way, let’s get out of here and [x]” with [x] being the next activity (e.g. walk the boardwalk or hit the next club).

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  34. on September 1, 2009 at 2:57 pm The G Manifesto

    maurice,

    Crazy. I just bought that movie a few weeks ago:

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000244EYW?ie=UTF8&tag=thegman-20&link_code=wql&camp=212361&creative=380601

    I will check it now for sure.

    – MPM

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  35. on September 1, 2009 at 2:58 pm maurice

    Pupu, will I be seeing you this week at the monkey sculpture?

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  36. on September 1, 2009 at 2:58 pm Pupu

    Sorry, Maurice. Pupu is out of town this weekend.

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  37. on September 1, 2009 at 2:59 pm Firepower

    Pupu gushed:

    The most colorful and diverse avatar thread so far!

    why, thank you. i designed it myself

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  38. on September 1, 2009 at 3:04 pm maurice

    @pupu- it’s on Thursday…where there’s a will there’s a way…

    @GMan- it’s a good one. Kurt Russell plays the gangster in one of his very first roles, and the whole movie takes place in the mountain West around Lake Tahoe. Jane Greer is a sight to behold- this is her defining role, and I always wondered why she never became a bigger star. But Mitchum is da man.

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  39. on September 1, 2009 at 3:05 pm Wilson Pickett

    “the Vaginot line”

    Very good.

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  40. on September 1, 2009 at 3:05 pm Pupu

    FP,

    Very pretty indeed. Now, Pupu must go — not colorful enough to stay.

    Maurice,

    Have a great time at the peacock party!

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  41. on September 1, 2009 at 3:07 pm Pupu

    Yea, Pupu is leaving from Reagan Thursday morning

    [editor: pupu was in dc? i hope you were the tall nordic girl whose number i collected this past friday night. if you only knew!]

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  42. on September 1, 2009 at 3:11 pm you know who

    There is one simple reason why you should stay away from women who are taken: a woman who is prepared to cheat on his boyfriend will eventually just do the same to you. Even if she won’t, you have no way of knowing that she won’t. Cheating is also an indicator of poor character.

    Can anyone deny that the man in each of the above scenarios comes off as totally alpha?

    He comes off as a parody of a man. Which is exactly what a PUA is.

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  43. on September 1, 2009 at 3:12 pm Firepower

    Pupu

    FP,

    Very pretty indeed. Now, Pupu must go — not colorful enough to stay.

    Well, colorblindness isn’t really all that uncommon in men. have a cigar with maury for me

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  44. on September 1, 2009 at 3:13 pm Stephanie

    This doesn’t work on all chicks though. I’ve had a handful of guys run game on me (really well, I might add), and I’ve thrown the boyfriend line out immediately. Some guys stop talking right after that and walk away or something, but a few have said something along the lines of “Nah I’m not on that, I’m just tryin to talk to you. Is that alright?” Usually I say sure and they flirt for a bit, but I’ve never given out my number or thought about going further, even when they’ve been good looking and had good game.

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  45. on September 1, 2009 at 3:15 pm The G Manifesto

    maurice,

    Yeah, I remember I saw a Mitchum movie as a youth one summer when I was in England.

    Smooth as a pearl and slick as a curl.

    I can’t remember for the life of me which movie it was. And he made so many it will be difficult to figure out.

    He smoked, swooped fly girls and was all around a G.

    True Alpha on the silver screen.

    I am glad that I was an impressionable young kid.

    – MPM

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  46. on September 1, 2009 at 3:17 pm Mike

    True dialog:

    Her [after shit-testing me]: That was a test.
    Me: Oooh, what are you going to do – fail me? Give me an “F”?
    Her: You wouldn’t care!?
    Me: Nope.

    She stormed off. I didn’t follow her.

    Later, I returned home to a clean apartment and smiling wife.

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  47. on September 1, 2009 at 3:18 pm The G Manifesto

    Stephanie

    “This doesn’t work on all chicks though.”

    Famous last words.

    – MPM

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  48. on September 1, 2009 at 3:22 pm Doug1

    Stephanie–

    This doesn’t work on all chicks though. I’ve had a handful of guys run game on me (really well, I might add), and I’ve thrown the boyfriend line out immediately.

    Yes but, it depends on her boyfriend too, or it will for many girls these days.

    Yeah there are a few that wouldn’t step out on even just a sort of formalist, “haven’t broken up with him yet but he isn’t the one”, nice enough but rather beta, type boyfriend until they had formally and explicitly broken up with him. Yes such girls do still exist and yes that used to be the widely held moral code, NEVER followed by all girls. But a lot fewer really hold it these days, if they know in their gut that the bf really isn’t a thrilling alpha.

    Then there are the girls that will even cheat on a lesser alpha who they DO think is good enough and maybe as good as they’ll do in something loyal, just for the alpha male thrills and/or because she’s kidding herself lots, as most girls tend to do, about their prospects of landing relationship loyalty and devotion in time from the exciting alpha that’s giving her gina tingle.

    There are even a few sluts that will just go screw another alpha even though they have one to see if the new one is better or for the variety, if they think it won’t get back to the bf. (E.g. esp. if he’s long distance for now.)

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  49. on September 1, 2009 at 3:23 pm Pupu

    Roissy,

    Pupu is local. Pupu is not Nordic. Pupu must stay digital, and not meet her virtual heroes in life.

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  50. on September 1, 2009 at 3:23 pm al

    Kurt Russell plays the gangster in one of his very first roles, and the whole movie takes place in the mountain West around Lake Tahoe.

    Kurt Russell isn’t that old and was a Disney star. Another one perhaps?

    Yea, Pupu is leaving from Reagan Thursday morning

    [editor: pupu was in dc? i hope you were the tall nordic girl whose number i collected this past saturday night. if you only knew!]

    If that doesn’t chill your bones …

    Frankly, if I’m hanging out and flirting extensively with someone else while in a relationship anything besides “ahhh, let’s stop now before I offend your delicate sensibilities” would increase my attraction.

    Then again, if I’m doing the above I’m already a. mostly done with the relationship and too immature to admit it, and b. still 22 and smoking the “women can/want/should/will screw like men!” pipe.

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  51. on September 1, 2009 at 3:24 pm maurice

    @GMan- constant smoking in that movie, and too many great one-liners to remember. Enjoy.

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  52. on September 1, 2009 at 3:24 pm Stu.

    One word. Awesome.

    My usual response to “I have a boyfriend” I stole shamelessly from Natural Tim: “Do you want another one?” said with a shit eating grin.

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  53. on September 1, 2009 at 3:25 pm Firepower

    Stephanie confessed:

    I’ve had a handful of guys run game on me (really well, I might add), and I’ve thrown the boyfriend line out immediately… I’ve never given out my number or thought about going further

    do you attract ugly guys or something? it seems odd, you being so cold

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  54. on September 1, 2009 at 3:30 pm Firepower

    i mean, i’m sure you’re smokin’ hot

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  55. on September 1, 2009 at 3:31 pm Traveller

    al – He meant Kirk Douglas.

    On topic – “I don’t care” is my default response to a question I deem unworthy of an actual response. “What do you think of X?” Answer: “I don’t care.” Translation: That’s a stupid question – why don’t you ask me another one that I might want to answer?

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  56. on September 1, 2009 at 3:31 pm DF

    This doesn’t work on all chicks though. I’ve had a handful of guys run game on me (really well, I might add), and I’ve thrown the boyfriend line out immediately. Some guys stop talking right after that and walk away or something, but a few have said something along the lines of “Nah I’m not on that, I’m just tryin to talk to you. Is that alright?” Usually I say sure and they flirt for a bit, but I’ve never given out my number or thought about going further, even when they’ve been good looking and had good game.

    Context Stephanie, context. If you throw it out there that you have a boyfriend early on, then its no big deal. You’re being upfront. If you throw out the “I’ve got a boyfriend line,” after we’ve gone out on a date and you’re in my apartment with your hands down my pants then that’s a different story.

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  57. on September 1, 2009 at 3:32 pm Mingus

    Her: But you have a girlfriend.

    Me: I don’t care.

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  58. on September 1, 2009 at 3:36 pm johnny

    When a girl manages to drop the info that her BF is out of state…is that good?? ha ha This particular girl was not really my cup o’tea,tho. Mores the pity! “I dont care.” Yep.I will keep that on file,beta tho I am!

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  59. on September 1, 2009 at 3:45 pm maurice

    @al- wow, thanks. Major brain fart- I have no idea where that came from. Kirk Douglas. KIRK DOUGLAS !

    also- *anything* other that straight beta white-knighting increases your attraction? good to know…

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  60. on September 1, 2009 at 3:46 pm Anonymous

    Her: I have a boyfriend?

    Me: good.

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  61. on September 1, 2009 at 3:47 pm Anonymous

    her: i have a boyfriend.

    Me: good.

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  62. on September 1, 2009 at 3:50 pm al

    also- *anything* other that straight beta white-knighting increases your attraction? good to know…

    I refer you to the above comment on CONTEXT by DF.

    Refusal to offend my delicate sensibilities generally will get you trod on*; hate to admit it, but I am as girly as the rest. Woe.

    *this is cubed if you already seem to have more delicate sensibilities than I do.

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  63. on September 1, 2009 at 3:51 pm Pupu

    Pupu has to take her claim back. There has been a lot of diversity in avatar color and design in recent comment threads. Pupu only just came to the realization. Sorry, when she is not counting, she is not making much sense 😦

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  64. on September 1, 2009 at 3:53 pm xsplat

    “I hate you!”, said with an exasperating smile.

    “I really and truly and honestly don’t care“, explained with sexual body language.

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  65. on September 1, 2009 at 3:53 pm al

    ahem, please ignore above. Apparently I really *can’t* read, should drink less caffeine, and pay attention to either my phone call or this website, not both.
    Apologies. Will stop commenting until (thinks) is less incoherent.

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  66. on September 1, 2009 at 3:55 pm Alpha Male of the Year

    My go to line whenever i encountered the “i have a boyfriend line”.

    *with a smirk*

    You said that like it is the single greatest accomplishment of your life.

    *with a smirk*

    I will subsequently try the “i dont care”.

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  67. on September 1, 2009 at 3:55 pm xsplat

    exasperated smile.

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  68. on September 1, 2009 at 4:12 pm Welmer

    ZEETS: Just the way she laughed at all my jokes. She smiled every time I spoke. And then back at my place we were sitting on the couch, and I started kissing her neck. She moaned loudly, high-pitched, like a horny kitten. I wonder if all Asian girls moan that loudly.

    The whore who lived a couple floors below me in Beijing moaned that way every single night, all summer long. It was a well-honed performance — she should have tried out for the Peking Opera.

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  69. on September 1, 2009 at 4:17 pm collegeboy

    Pupu must stay digital, and not meet her virtual heroes in life.

    collegeboy can kind of understand what your saying pupu.
    collegeboy wouldn’t want to be dissappointed also.

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  70. on September 1, 2009 at 4:19 pm Markku

    The sexual arms race continues, straddling the Vaginot line between mutually assured destruction and mutually assured pleasure.

    Damn, I’ve got to love your way with words!

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  71. on September 1, 2009 at 4:24 pm Riff Dog

    Absolutely! “I don’t care” has *always* been the correct answer to “I have a boyfriend.” In fact, I’m convinced that when a girl says she has a boyfriend, it’s not a warning to keep away. It’s a test. And there’s only one right answer.

    The other instances for using “I don’t care” can be pretty cool, but be advised that in those cases, there’s a fine line between appearing alpha and appearing to be a pothead. 😉

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  72. on September 1, 2009 at 4:32 pm Bill

    That’s pretty good. It’s one of the more counterintuitive approaches, for some reason. Her statement about having a boyfriend is a programmed response that seems to convey an absolute but is actually more open-ended, appalling as that may be.

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  73. on September 1, 2009 at 4:35 pm The G Manifesto

    “The other instances for using “I don’t care” can be pretty cool, but be advised that in those cases, there’s a fine line between appearing alpha and appearing to be a pothead.”

    Or an Alpha Pothead.

    – MPM

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  74. on September 1, 2009 at 4:40 pm the specimen

    Personally, I think a playful and mischaevious response like “Don’t worry, he won’t mind,” has more sawgger to it and will do much more to ease your entry into vag valhalla. I think the real challenge here is distinguishing the blow off from the invitation.

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  75. on September 1, 2009 at 4:48 pm theorist

    In its original form: “Frankly, my dear, I don’t give a damn.”

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  76. on September 1, 2009 at 4:56 pm sestamibi

    Now here’s a kid who perfected this form back in 1974:

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  77. on September 1, 2009 at 4:58 pm guest

    how does a flat “so” compare to I don’t care? I’ve used that before usually to good effect.

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  78. on September 1, 2009 at 5:04 pm Sofia

    As someone might have mentioned (I didn’t read through everything”) saying “I don’t care” has less to do with your alphadom or any sort of shit-testing, and justifies cheating for her. It’s about approval seeking on her end. Women like to feel that they are absolved of guilt in any sort of relationship type scenario.

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  79. on September 1, 2009 at 5:05 pm MNL

    @Mike

    “She stormed off. I didn’t follow her.”

    Well done.

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  80. on September 1, 2009 at 5:08 pm Nadia

    i think they way he answered her was right … she was going to cheat anyway but that makes it way sexier .. if i want to cheat the biggest turn off is the guy telling me he feels bad or guilty about my bf.

    some of the other stuff wont work ..

    “HER: I didn’t cum.

    YOU: I don’t care.

    at this point i would get angry.. why would you say some thing like this anyway ? what would be the purpose in pissing her off ?
    ***

    HER: Do you love me?

    YOU: I don’t care.

    this is way wrong also. it doesnt even make sense .. you dont care about what ? about whether you love her ? you dont care enough to love her?
    it just doesnt work .

    but definitely ignore her BF if shes into you then he doesnt exist …. who cares. It’s her that’s doing some thing wrong .

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  81. on September 1, 2009 at 5:24 pm Riff Dog

    the specimen sayeth – “Personally, I think a playful and mischievous response like “Don’t worry, he won’t mind,” has more swagger to it and will do much more to ease your entry into vag valhalla. I think the real challenge here is distinguishing the blow off from the invitation.”

    The problem I have with that is that it implies the boyfriend actually has a say in the matter. So while playful, this response has less swagger to it.

    Not to mention that with the way *I* fuck, he most certainly *would* mind! 😉

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  82. on September 1, 2009 at 5:25 pm km80

    Nadia is right..it works in a certain context in this case the BF line..whats going to happen is a lot of readers with little experience are going to take this advice to heart and use it randomnly pissing women off…Reminds me of David DeAngelo back in the day..the whole CnF thing is a similar overused concept.

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  83. on September 1, 2009 at 5:26 pm you know who

    Nadia

    if i want to cheat the biggest turn off is the guy telling me he feels bad or guilty about my bf.

    Yes, ethics can be a real bummer. Nihilism is clearly way cooler.

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  84. on September 1, 2009 at 5:37 pm Bill

    It’s like what you were saying. Just the fact that the girl has to say she has a boyfriend is a bad sign for that relationship. It could mean she doesn’t come across as being committed to it. If the statement were “I’m seeing someone,” that might seem more real, in some way.

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  85. on September 1, 2009 at 5:45 pm Madras

    Swing and a miss.

    That line was a throw away. She had already decided to cheat by that point. Zeets scores points for everything that lead up to that, but the “I dont care line” meant nothing. She had made up her mind by then.

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  86. on September 1, 2009 at 5:49 pm Joe

    Swing and a miss.

    That line was a throw away. She had already decided to cheat by that point. Zeets scores points for everything that lead up to that, but the “I dont care line” meant nothing. She had made up her mind by then.

    A lot of guys have botched easier slam dunks way later in the process than that. Even if she made up her mind, he could still have said something stupid to fuck it up.

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  87. on September 1, 2009 at 5:52 pm Doug1

    Nadia

    she was going to cheat anyway but that makes it way sexier .. if i want to cheat the biggest turn off is the guy telling me he feels bad or guilty about my bf.

    Yeah.

    But there’s a second reason why girls often like to bring up having a bf before doing the deed with an exciting alpha.

    She’s hoping he might become her new bf. She at least sees it as a possibility. If things do progress in that direction she doesn’t want to seem like she wasn’t putting all her cards on the table. I.e. if she goes through a period of not breaking up with her bf right away and having to sneak around because of him, she doesn’t want it to seem to the new guy that she’s started out by deceiving him, and therefore looking like someone that would easily two time him too. Rather she’s making his having to deal with her possible lingering bf loyalty his problem, in girl head.

    Girls don’t think all that through exactly, usually. It’s more an instinctual desire to put their cards on the table in this kind of situation.

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  88. on September 1, 2009 at 6:04 pm Default User

    A softer version of “I don’t care” for some situations is “That’s OK.” It is less harsh and perhaps more ambiguous.

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  89. on September 1, 2009 at 6:12 pm Lucifer

    I say that all the time, in case you haven’t noticed. I mean it too..

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  90. on September 1, 2009 at 6:13 pm dick fuel

    ha ha

    interest – neediness = pussy;

    this’ll knock down the neediness to zero, but, depending on context, this’ll also drop the interest to the antiphallic red zone, potentially offsetting any benefit

    perfect for a bf shit test, but i hope the “do you love me” was adduced purely for jest –> better to imply this than actually say it

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  91. on September 1, 2009 at 6:15 pm He-man

    Her: I have a boyfriend

    Me: So does your mom. (thumbs pointed at chest)

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  92. on September 1, 2009 at 6:16 pm Doug1

    Default User–

    The advantage of “I don’t care” is that implies some combination of his implying he hasn’t the slightest concern that he’s got pre-existing competition because it’s getting blown away, and his being too much an in demand alpha for her yet to have won him – she’s still on tryouts.

    It’s really the perfect ambiguity.

    Whereas “that’s ok” sounds to me as though he might be conveying that he’s willing to share her for as long as she wants/needs even if he is deeply into her, she’s so special, and also that probably he already kinda is that into her.

    Just doesn’t have the same alpha swagger.

    The edgieness of “I don’t care” is perfect.

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  93. on September 1, 2009 at 6:20 pm Joe

    A softer version of “I don’t care” for some situations is “That’s OK.” It is less harsh and perhaps more ambiguous.

    Sounds wishy-washy. If choosing between decisive, hard language and nebulous wishy-washy, always err in the direction of the former.

    Or whip your cock out and smack her in the face with it. Ultra-decisive body language.

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  94. on September 1, 2009 at 6:23 pm Hit The Bitch

    Noone’s saying ‘GET OUT, CHEATING BITCH! I DON’T DO LEFTOVERS!’

    And then maybe a smack or two.

    It would totally turn her on.

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  95. on September 1, 2009 at 6:30 pm Lucifer

    One of my better ones..

    “I do not care, as I can buy a better, and younger, version of you from 220-240$/hr.”

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  96. on September 1, 2009 at 6:36 pm spandrell

    I had a fling with a Brazilian chick in Japan. She told me the boyfriend thing just when we got to her room.
    I just told her “and I have a girlfriend. So what?”

    She was laughing for half an hour. Then we fucked.

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  97. on September 1, 2009 at 6:40 pm Sofia

    Hit the Bitch, are you formerly Kick a Bitch?

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  98. on September 1, 2009 at 6:41 pm JB

    Alternate response: “You mean, HAD?” with a DeAngelo type C&F delivery.

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  99. on September 1, 2009 at 6:43 pm Hit The Bitch

    Kick A Bitch would’ve kicked her, bitch.

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  100. on September 1, 2009 at 6:47 pm JB

    “She had already decided to cheat by that point. Zeets scores points for everything that lead up to that, but the “I dont care line” meant nothing. She had made up her mind by then.”

    Oh, c’mon, it probably sealed the deal. Until the panties are off everything means something.

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  101. on September 1, 2009 at 6:55 pm str8up

    Had a chick pull this on me awhile back.

    We were making out and right before the clothes started coming off, she says, “You know I’m married, right?”

    Me: “Yea”

    Not another word was said and sexual activities resumed immediately thereafter.

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  102. on September 1, 2009 at 6:56 pm Default User

    Doug1, Joe

    Is it always about alpha swagger?

    In the story she is back at his/your place, she is about to fuck you/him. You have proved your alpha stripes.

    All she really needs is permission. The “I don’t care” could just as easily generate a “wait a minute, I do care” response from her.

    You are also assuming your entire presentation thus far has been one of full on alpha swagger. If that is not the case, the “I don’t care” will seem try-too-hard.
    [Despite the dogma here, milder guys do get laid. Really.]

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  103. on September 1, 2009 at 7:00 pm Sofia

    Hit the Bitch just won my heart over.

    Re: Chicks dig jerks.

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  104. on September 1, 2009 at 7:06 pm greater beta in ny

    A few years back, when I was slightly more beta than I am now, I cheated on my distance girlfriend for the first time. I felt a bit guilty about it and when I came back to the tall redhead’s room, I told her I had a girlfriend.

    Her response: “I don’t care.”

    We had great sex that night.

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  105. on September 1, 2009 at 7:11 pm scyo

    Question:

    Is “and?” an appropriate response to the I have a boyfriend question?

    A nonchalant “…and?” followed by silence on the speaker’s end (perhaps even a cocked eyebrow) seems like it would work well in this situation.

    Or is that wrong?

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  106. on September 1, 2009 at 7:16 pm you know who

    greater beta in ny, are you saying that feeling guilty about cheating on your girlfriend is “beta” behavior?

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  107. on September 1, 2009 at 7:18 pm Aenigma

    Betas wouldn’t have the balls to say that they don’t care in 90% of situations:

    1. They do care
    2. They’re slaves to their emotions
    3. They’re bound by their morality

    In 9.9% of the remaining situations they wouldn’t be able to say it congruently.

    Your trade secret is safe- it’ll only be used by the alpha assholes who already use it anyway….

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  108. on September 1, 2009 at 7:21 pm Bhetti

    Is it always about alpha swagger?

    Them chickens jackin’ my style
    They try copy my swagger
    I’m on that next shit now

    I’m so 3008
    You so 2000 and late
    I got that boom, boom, boom

    Stupid overplayed song in my head. All of you can suffer with me.

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  109. on September 1, 2009 at 7:24 pm Anonymous

    http://www.journalfen.net/users/lol_meme/268438.html?page=6&view=1258695318#comments

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  110. on September 1, 2009 at 7:26 pm you know who

    Aenigma

    Betas wouldn’t have the balls to say that they don’t care in 90% of situations:

    1. They do care

    First you say betas don’t have the balls, as if they wanted to say it but can’t, but then you invalidate that by saying that they do care, in which case they have no reason to say they don’t.

    2. They’re slaves to their emotions

    You frame this whole thing as if you must say you don’t care. Why is that? Why is it absolutely necessary to say you don’t care?

    3. They’re bound by their morality

    All decent people are. But then, PUAs are not decent people, they’re just nihilists.

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  111. on September 1, 2009 at 7:27 pm greater beta in ny

    are you saying that feeling guilty about cheating on your girlfriend is “beta” behavior?

    Honestly, probably yes. But that wasn’t the main reason I was so beta at the time. I was beta for remaining in an exclusive relationship when I knew deep down I didn’t really want to be. In retrospect, I should’ve just ended things, or told her the relationship would have to be non-exclusive, as soon as I started to feel that way.

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  112. on September 1, 2009 at 7:29 pm JB

    “Or is that wrong?”

    My experience has been that within reason, the logical/verbal content of what you say doesn’t matter. Frame, delivery, body language — those things are at least 80% (if not all) of it. If you’re in the right frame, everything you say will come out right, you don’t have to generate the appropriate response.

    Really, you could say “I don’t care” incongruently and fuck it up — the presumption here is that he didn’t.

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  113. on September 1, 2009 at 7:31 pm JB

    “But then, PUAs are not decent people, they’re just nihilists.”

    Will you stop saying that? Some of us are merely existentialists. 😉

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  114. on September 1, 2009 at 7:33 pm The truth

    Fuck betrayers.

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  115. on September 1, 2009 at 7:36 pm gig

    LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

    absolutely off topic

    go to youtube and search for professora todo enfiado

    a school teacher (taught kids below 7) dancing in a contest. The state where this occurred is 80% African by ancestry, BTW

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  116. on September 1, 2009 at 7:39 pm David Alexander

    Her: “You know I have a boyfriend.”

    Me: “Aww, that’s sweet. If you’ll excuse me, I have trains to go ride.”

    or “Aww, that’s sweet. If you’ll excuse me, I have the need to drive to a place free of cheating golddigging whores like yourself.”

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  117. on September 1, 2009 at 7:44 pm JB

    I’m gonna have to edit the Urban Dictionary entry for “idée fixe” in honor of Mr. Alexander…;)

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  118. on September 1, 2009 at 7:53 pm Rum

    u no hu

    Christian SoComs constantly say that male humans have an animalistic side that puts too much focus on superficial qualities of women and that these animalistic tendencies need to be throttled and controlled for the good of society.
    But if a woman chooses to flash some skin at a guy to gain his attention that is “just how the game is played”.
    If someone says that human females (equally human btw) have animalistic tendencies that often misdirect their lust to superficial qualities in guys and so guys would do well to study how to flash those qualities to gain the lustful attention of a woman… you and the other SoComs jump up to call that guy a “nihilist”.
    SoComs are thereby revealed as idiots.

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  119. on September 1, 2009 at 7:58 pm you know who

    greater beta in ny

    Honestly, probably yes.

    No. You shouldn’t cheat, and if you do cheat then you should feel guilty.

    Rum, cool strawman, bro. I never said that PUAs are nihilists because they “say that human females have animalistic tendencies that often misdirect their lust to superficial qualities in guys and so guys would do well to study how to flash those qualities to gain the lustful attention of a woman.”

    PUAs are nihilists because they have no values or morals or ethics and don’t believe in anything or care about anything.

    The animalistic tendencies of women should be supressed.

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  120. on September 1, 2009 at 8:08 pm Aenigma

    The animalistic tendencies of women should be supressed.

    The only way you can do that is at gun point- and when you’ve taken that step you’ve become the very thing you despise. Congradulations.

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  121. on September 1, 2009 at 8:09 pm Rum

    u no hu

    Now who is throwing up Strawmen? I never said anything about PUAs.
    Why not we call it Gender Realism? The kind that should inform guys regardless of their Ultimate Goal in respect of women.
    SoComs have this deep instinct that conflates “Doing the Right Thing” with “Putting an equally Smelly Human Female on a Fucking Pedestal.”
    It is stupid and wrong.

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  122. on September 1, 2009 at 8:16 pm greater beta in ny

    No. You shouldn’t cheat, and if you do cheat then you should feel guilty.

    Sure, it’s not the right thing to do. But that’s not what you asked. You asked if feeling guilty about cheating is beta behavior.

    And on average, I would guess that beta males feel more guilt about cheating than alphas do. This is probably partly because alphas tend to be bigger jerks, but mostly because alphas have many more opportunities to cheat, so they come up with ways of rationalizing it to themselves.

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  123. on September 1, 2009 at 8:53 pm JB

    “PUAs are nihilists because they have no values or morals or ethics and don’t believe in anything or care about anything.”

    That’s an untenable position.

    In the words of one of the greatest naturals I’ve met in my life (who had a virtual harem before his 18th birthday, mostly with older girls) — “Women are scum.” And he wasn’t a bad kid either, trust me. He was friendly, compassionate and always there to lift one’s spirits.

    To translate, as many here are trying to explain to you, putting pussy on the pedestal is an exercise in extreme self-delusion and masochism.

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  124. on September 1, 2009 at 9:21 pm Arrakis

    This answer worked for me, but it was responding to a different statement. And I kinda wish it hadn’t. WOulda saved me some drama.

    Her: “I have a kid.”

    Me: “I don’t care.”

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  125. on September 1, 2009 at 9:23 pm joel

    I think all social animals have to suppress animal instincts, or at least direct them into less destructive behavior patterns. Study the primates. Or canines. They have highly organized social structures. There is a lot of suppression of instinctual behavior going on. Otherwise, their societies would disintegrate.

    Same with humans. We are all hypocrites because our instincts always conflict, at some level, with society’s expectations and our social obligations. That’s why we lie so much.

    Darwin decides which behaviors get rewarded by increasing gene frequencies in the next generation. Everything else is just hot air.

    Smart people figure out the rules, then devise ways to break them to their advantage. It really isn’t that complicated.

    Game is a beautiful example of working the system, using and/or breaking the rules, for self interest.

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  126. on September 1, 2009 at 9:24 pm aoefe

    Haven’t read comments yet but my immediate reaction to him saying “I don’t care” in the context of your story means to me ‘he wants me’. He wants me enough NOT to care that he could be getting in another dude’s way. That is why she lights up with lust – confirmation she matters.

    HER: I don’t think I’ll have any free time this week to meet up.

    YOU: I don’t care. *unspoken – I’ll wait as long as I have to just to see you again.

    ***

    HER: Sorry I’m late.

    YOU: I don’t care. *Just so long as I see your face again

    ***

    HER: I didn’t cum.

    YOU: I don’t care. * cuz he’ll keep on trying

    ***

    HER: How many girls have you slept with?

    YOU: I don’t care. *I only remember you
    ***

    HER: I’m breaking up with you.

    YOU: I don’t care. * I’ll wait forever

    ***

    HER: Do you love me?

    YOU: I don’t care. *the feelings i have for you are indescribable.

    Don’t forget women project what they want to hear on you. We’re master twisters.

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  127. on September 1, 2009 at 9:36 pm Byrdeye

    Interesting.

    How many guys here have actually tried this, though? And with what results?

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  128. on September 1, 2009 at 9:40 pm Brad

    Roissy: this concept of one word game is really intriguing. I have so far taken this brilliant form and used it many times with pretty good results. I find that in order for it to be most effective, the woman must have some sort of investment into you (or the interaction if you have just opened her recently). The more interest you have with her, the better ‘one word game’ works. Once you do it once or times, in my experience, women start competing with whatever you’re distracted to.

    Laying in my bed after sex:
    Her: so anyways he’s just so annoying, the guy wouldn’t even have sex with me because he said he “respects me” and it’s just so annoying! All my friends have their boyfriends and there’s me, alone. Can’t we go back to the way it was?

    Me: (silence – acting distracted, playing with my watch)

    Her: BRAD!

    Me: Huh? Oh. Yeah, sure.

    Her: You asshole! You weren’t even listening…

    Me: Yes I was! Hey, do you think that McDonald’s should bring back Super Size?

    For some reason the one word game works wonders when she’s doing something that she knows is testing the boundaries a little bit (talking about other guys). Tyler Durden gives the advice of just giving a disappointed look, I take it a step further with ‘one word game.’

    This allows me to remain being the ‘prize’ (she’s chasing me, trying to get me engaged, my opinion, etc.) I also control the conversation – it remains entirely in my frame. She is then very appreciative when I take just two minutes to listen to her talk about something and give an emotionally charged response (remember guys, women aren’t logical like men are, appeal to them on an emotional level).

    I don’t fix her problems, her problems don’t become my problems, eventually (like a dog) this will become a learned behavior. I get the same amount of attraction and my time is valued. She thinks twice before calling me to bitch about her problems, but anytime she wants sex all she has to do is pick up the phone, and vice versa.

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  129. on September 1, 2009 at 9:42 pm I_Affe

    When I read this post a scene from The Fugitive popped in my head. The one were Harrison Ford is trapped between Tommy Lee Jones and a long drop down a dam.

    HF: I didn’t kill my wife! It was the one-armed man!

    TLJ: (in a Southern drawl) I don’t care.

    Is Zeets the one-armed man?

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  130. on September 1, 2009 at 10:04 pm JB

    Zeets is TLJ, naturally.

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  131. on September 1, 2009 at 10:33 pm mjaybee

    Been there.

    Also used the same reply to, “But I have a husband and two kids”.

    Shit testing never ends, but in the arms race that ensues, game always gets the last word in.

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  132. on September 1, 2009 at 10:33 pm mjaybee

    @Byrdeye:

    It always works.

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  133. on September 1, 2009 at 10:34 pm mjaybee

    The animalistic tendencies of women SHOULD BE ENCOURAGED TO FLUORISH.

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  134. on September 1, 2009 at 10:41 pm Max A

    Roissy – can we have a thread on Married Women please?

    since Christmas I my batting stats are

    8 Married
    3 Single/ BF

    I wonder if its the Financial Crisis / Economy thats got them chasing for extra optionality?

    Are any other guys out their finding married women are flooding the marketplace???

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  135. on September 1, 2009 at 10:41 pm James O.

    Pupu “The most colorful and diverse avatar thread so far!”
    === Diversity is the Roissysphere’s strength.

    You Know Who “There is one simple reason why you should stay away from women who are taken: a woman who is prepared to cheat on his boyfriend will eventually just do the same to you.”
    === There’s also that pesky risk that you’ll meet the boyfriend (maybe a “chance” meeting orchestrated by the girl for her amusement) and he’ll be a thug, hockey player, etc. But nobody else thought of that, right? Heh.

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  136. on September 1, 2009 at 10:41 pm xsplat

    Brad

    Me: (silence – acting distracted, playing with my watch)

    Her: BRAD!

    Me: Huh? Oh. Yeah, sure.

    Her: You asshole! You weren’t even listening…

    I’m more direct. I say “I’m not a woman. Talk about that with your girfriends”.

    Different shit tests require different levels of feedback. When the woman escalates and escalates her wanging (about you dating other girls or not giving her enough attention) there is no choice but to overpower her, perhaps even physically. It’s always best to use the minimum amount of feedback, but sometimes a girl who can’t control her mouth will leave a guy no choice. Maybe a shout down, maybe physically throwing her out of the house, and yes even maybe a short sharp shock.

    I have a choice in a relationship. If I’m not happy and can’t fix things, it’s ultimately my responsibility to take charge and leave, or go find other girls to satisfy what I’m not getting in the relationship. And if the girl is not happy with my lack of monogamous commitment, it’s ultimately her responsibility to leave. Jealous wanging is not an option. Not in my house.

    The undercurrent of the social dynamic is the girl has the option to leave, and if not, enjoy life and shut the fuck up.

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  137. on September 1, 2009 at 10:50 pm you know who

    Aenigma

    The only way you can do that is at gun point- and when you’ve taken that step you’ve become the very thing you despise. Congradulations.

    Why would guns be involved? Society can affect the behavior of people.

    Rum

    Now who is throwing up Strawmen? I never said anything about PUAs.

    I was talking about PUAs, and so were you. If you weren’t, then you should have said so.

    Why not we call it Gender Realism? The kind that should inform guys regardless of their Ultimate Goal in respect of women.
    SoComs have this deep instinct that conflates “Doing the Right Thing” with “Putting an equally Smelly Human Female on a Fucking Pedestal.”
    It is stupid and wrong.

    What are you even talking about?

    greater beta in ny

    Sure, it’s not the right thing to do. But that’s not what you asked. You asked if feeling guilty about cheating is beta behavior.

    “Beta behavior” implies that it is wrong, or weak.

    JB

    To translate, as many here are trying to explain to you, putting pussy on the pedestal is an exercise in extreme self-delusion and masochism.

    What does this have to do with the fact that PUAs are nihilists?

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  138. on September 1, 2009 at 11:06 pm Stephanie

    Firepower – Hey, well you can assume whatever you want on the internet I suppose.

    Some of the guys have been relatively attractive but too old, but some have been pretty damn hot and I definitely would’ve given out my number if I was single. I don’t mean to be cold with them, I’ll still make conversation and everything, but I just throw the boyfriend line out to let them know what’s going on. I think it’s bogus as hell to lead a guy on with flirting when you’re already taken – the chicks who do that are the ones this type of game should be run on, like somebody already said.

    I consider my bf to be an alpha (fucked him the first night we met and though I was drunk, I know his game’s tight as hell) so maybe that factors into it somewhat?

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  139. on September 1, 2009 at 11:16 pm mjaybee

    Married women are definitely feeling the gina tingle.

    Lots of legal safety benefits to avoid the clutches of family court orchiectomy:

    Pregnancy – in many states, the husband is responsible for support irrespective of paternity

    Inhibitions: Not there. That’s why you’re there.

    Husband issues: If hubby were an Alpha, she wouldn’t ned you. Hubby is a Herb of the highest order – not a problem.

    Discretion: High. She’s calling the shots. You’re free to do your own thing on the side.

    It’s like having grandchildren vs. raising your own kids: you only have to deal with the good side of things.

    Married women are the way to go.

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  140. on September 1, 2009 at 11:31 pm Doug1

    xsplat

    The undercurrent of the social dynamic is the girl has the option to leave, and if not, enjoy life and shut the fuck up.

    Sure.

    But that dynamic really only works if she doesn’t have the ability to hold you up for lots of money if she chooses to leave either because 1) you’re living together and not married in a state that doesn’t recognize palimony which is almost all of them; 2) you’re married with a prenup that mimics the forgoing effects and you don’t have kids together; or 3) you’re too poor to hold up worth squat and don’t have kids.

    Or you live in a country that doesn’t give women who just decide to leave the right ongoing divorce theft/alimony from their former partners.

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  141. on September 1, 2009 at 11:36 pm xsplat

    Yes, Doug, that goes without saying.

    Because you’ve said it a million times already.

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  142. on September 1, 2009 at 11:54 pm mjaybee

    @Doug1
    Good, now you know the rules.

    Act accordingly.

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  143. on September 2, 2009 at 12:13 am Max A

    mjaybee
    It’s like having grandchildren vs. raising your own kids: you only have to deal with the good side of things.

    Married women are the way to go.

    Agree 100% – and

    “I Dont Care game”

    works even stronger on them. They dont WANT you to care, they want you in the moment and thats it!

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  144. on September 2, 2009 at 12:24 am Max A

    Tyler Durden on not caring

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  145. on September 2, 2009 at 12:26 am The Fifth Horseman

    Because you’ve said it a million times already.

    It needs repeating. Often.

    Even on this board, too few of the men are sufficiently outraged of this modern-day slavery in America. Either they never had money, or never got close to actually having the option to marry.

    Part of the way to topple the feminist Mordor is to ‘starve the beast’ by more and more men avoiding marriage. We just need 20% of men to avoid marriage for ALL unmarried women to be in deep trouble (given how fierce the competition would be where 100 women compete for 80 men, and less social ‘stigma’ on men who choose the eternal bachelor/cad path).

    Men should at least know what the laws are, and that 70-90% of the divorces are initiated/forced by women.

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  146. on September 2, 2009 at 12:36 am The Fifth Horseman

    Max A

    While I agree with Tyler Durden’s philosophy in theory, and for social matters…

    A person who works in a corporate career, or in a client-based small business (doctor, lawyer in practice), HAS to care what others think. Their livelihood depends on it.

    Therefore, it is very hard to keep the ‘reputation’ up in the workplace, vs. suspending any interest in what others think in a social/Game context.

    It is hard to do that. The Beta energy that a workplace radiates and ENFORCES is powerful if you are there for 80% of your weekday time. There are very few successful people in the seduction community that simultaneously work at corporations. Orior was one. I don’t know of another who is really a serious ‘master’.

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  147. on September 2, 2009 at 12:37 am mjaybee

    @Fifth Horseman

    Wise words, but unless you’ve been zeroed out yourself by the system (as I have), most male sheeple in the US conform to their beta conditioning, which is prevalent throughout society.

    Case in point:

    H. Beatty Chadwick was freed from prison this past summer after serving 14 years of prison for civil contempt (in family court).

    No evidence.
    No jury trial.
    No crime.

    America = democracy = Die Große Lüge

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  148. on September 2, 2009 at 12:38 am mjaybee

    H. Beatty Chadwick’s case:

    http://tinyurl.com/n6c9yu

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  149. on September 2, 2009 at 12:46 am The Fifth Horseman

    Wise words, but unless you’ve been zeroed out yourself by the system (as I have),

    Would you care to elaborate?

    What do you do for a living?

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  150. on September 2, 2009 at 12:50 am mjaybee

    Wise words, but unless you’ve been zeroed out yourself by the system (as I have) you can’t grok this at all.

    Most male sheeple in the US conform to their beta conditioning, which is prevalent throughout society.

    Case in point:

    H. Beatty Chadwick was freed from prison this past summer after serving 14 years of prison for civil contempt (in family court).

    No evidence.
    No jury trial.
    No crime.

    America = democracy = Die Große Lüge

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  151. on September 2, 2009 at 1:00 am el chief

    Alphas have options and don’t need to fuck OPP.

    Men that fuck other men’s girls or wives are not alphas, they are “sneaky rutters”. Look it up on the arpatubes.

    I used to fuck married bitches (they loved it), but I don’t any more. I saw the light. K, maybe I kissed a married girl last month, but she started it.

    If a girl says she has a BF, but has her hand in my lap, then I think “you’re just a lying whore”. If she doesn’t have the ovaries to dump his ass and go single for a while, then she’s not worth my mothafuckin’ el chief time.

    Alphas are strong and have standards. Be strong.

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  152. on September 2, 2009 at 1:07 am mjaybee

    Work in the pharma industry, two kids, litigation expenses since divorcing in 2002 =~95K.

    Have my kids ~50% of the time – they are the best.

    However, retirement accts, savings were cut in half in my early 40s, house sold at a steep 50% discount relative to comparable housing prices 2 years post-sale.

    Just got through more litigation (custody can be revisited anytime)

    My friends going through this now who are in their 50s and 60s might not make it. They have been married >10 years, which in California means their wives may qualify for lifetime alimony (see Cal. Fam. Code §4336(a)).

    In most cases, they are responsible for paying their own attorneys and the fees of their ex-wive’s attorneys.

    This economy is taking its toll, and many will end their lives completely impoverished, with their children taken away from them and being raised by their ex-wives’ new husbands.

    Since my divorce I have dated women from all walks of life. My bachelor tax (child support) reminds me every month why I should not get married again.

    My beaten-down, middle aged Herb-lumpen married peers live life one gray day at a time.

    My vasectomy is scheduled for December.

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  153. on September 2, 2009 at 1:12 am mjaybee

    If a beautiful woman offers herself to you, it is an insult in the eyes of God to refuse her.

    Married, or single.

    إذا لم يكن إلا الأَسِنَّةُ مركبا فلا رأي للمضطر إلا ركوبها
    If a chance presents itself – take it!

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  154. on September 2, 2009 at 1:23 am The Fifth Horseman

    mjaybee,

    That is a terrifying and far too frequent of a story.

    What percentage of your income do you pay in alimony + child support?

    How old are your kids?

    Your house selling at a discount is not as bad as it may appear, because the losses go to your ex-wife too. In fact, men who have upside-down houses and a negative net worth should take this opportunity to release themselves.

    Your friends in their 50s and 60s don’t have child support to pay, presumably. The alimony is the killer, I suppose. They should seriously consider absconding to a country that will not extradite them, and where living costs are cheap. They would scarcely be worse off, and possibly better off.

    What really killed the institution of marriage is the fact that pre-nups don’t hold for the most egregious elements of divorce theft, which is child support = alimony. The contract should be held in its entireity. I am surprised feminOrcs are not having Wills and Testaments overturned to have all inheritance go to the widow and daughters to leave the sons with nothing, as reparations for ‘patriarchal oppression’.

    Now, being single has its problems too, if you have money. False date rape charges for extortion purposes are more and more common.
    ______________________________

    I bet your wife initiated divorce. What were the reasons? How much of a surprise was it to you?
    ______________________________

    Why the hell are more men not organizing into groups to a) lobby for legal changes, and b) advertise these horror stories to young men. The latter will do tremendous damage to the feminist industry.

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  155. on September 2, 2009 at 1:46 am Arrakis

    http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/2009/08/hello_ladies_fur_flies_at_bay.php?page=1

    San Fran hosts First Annual Cougar Convention.

    As ridiculous as if motorcycles gained value for ever scrape of rust they had on their worn-out frame.

    Pictures are hilarious, though.

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  156. on September 2, 2009 at 2:07 am The Fifth Horseman

    The pictures are almost a parody of themselves.

    The 25 year old Indian kid at the cougar convention? LOL!

    That other Indian cougar looks like a tranny.

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  157. on September 2, 2009 at 2:26 am xsplat

    Why the hell are more men not organizing into groups to a) lobby for legal changes, and b) advertise these horror stories to young men. The latter will do tremendous damage to the feminist industry.

    Expats are well organized, and regularly discuss the pitfalls of marriage and feminism. Some write entertainingly to boot. http://www.stickmanweekly.com/StickmanReadersSubmissions.htm

    That site is one reason I’ve proclaimed PC to be dying. Now you might claim that expats are an outlier minority, but you’d then be missing that they are a vanguard of cultural creatives. Fredoneverything, for example, is a leader – one leader among many of us.

    Tune in, turn on, drop out.

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  158. on September 2, 2009 at 2:29 am xsplat

    I empathize with you guys who want to change your system from within. I said “fuck the system” since I was born. I owe it nothing, it owes me nothing. You guys fix it, if that suits your ends. Doesn’t suit mine.

    I’m an entrepreneur, and have no need of taxes or government. Nor military protection. Nor alimony.

    I see no need to bitch about marriage. Just don’t get married. Problem solved.

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  159. on September 2, 2009 at 2:31 am Welmer

    The Fifth Horseman

    The pictures are almost a parody of themselves.

    The 25 year old Indian kid at the cougar convention? LOL!

    That other Indian cougar looks like a tranny.

    What’s with all the fat young Hindu guys at this convention?

    Is there something about Hindu culture that encourages young men to shack up with perimenopausal women? Is it some kind of religious rite?

    The thing that really gets me is that I know it would easier to pick up and play around with a woman in her late teens/early 20s than it would with a woman my own age (30s). Why the hell would men even bother with washed up, aging, demanding women who have been penetrated by scores of other guys?

    Young women are literally desperate for men who know the score. The older ones are like so many clowns, caked with makeup and barely able to restrain their appendages.

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  160. on September 2, 2009 at 2:32 am Max A

    b) advertise these horror stories to young men. The latter will do tremendous damage to the feminist industry.

    All young guys need to know is how promiscuous married women are – then all of the illusions and “pretty lies” would be shattered.

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  161. on September 2, 2009 at 2:33 am Welmer

    xsplat

    That site is one reason I’ve proclaimed PC to be dying. Now you might claim that expats are an outlier minority, but you’d then be missing that they are a vanguard of cultural creatives. Fredoneverything, for example, is a leader – one leader among many of us.

    I used to be an expat, but I was just a kid at the time. I’d do it again, but I’ve got a couple kids that I could never bring myself to leave behind.

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  162. on September 2, 2009 at 2:35 am xsplat

    By way of bragging, I’ve got a green star submission over on stickman reader submissions. Under a different pseudonym though.

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  163. on September 2, 2009 at 2:36 am el chief

    xsplat: did you grow up in Monrovia?

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  164. on September 2, 2009 at 2:57 am The Fifth Horseman

    Is there something about Hindu culture that encourages young men to shack up with perimenopausal women? Is it some kind of religious rite?

    No. They just have no Game at all, and this is the best they can get. Note, however, that the Indian kid still seeks out the blonde women, steering clear of the Indian cougar in the first photo.

    Remember that due to Indian cultural conditioning about Beta providerhood and arranged marriages, if the average white Beta starts at ‘0’ in a quest to reach ‘100’ percent Game competence, the Indian guy starts from ‘-100’. The Betatude conditioning that Indians (and other Asians) have to unwind is immense. Remember that every young Asian kid has a father like Larry Auster or worse, who taught him exactly the wrong things.

    In India it is quite common for a husband to be 10-12 years OLDER than the wife. If the wife was from a poor family, even more.

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  165. on September 2, 2009 at 3:13 am whiskey

    Yeah I posted on that earlier. Hilarious. Welmer the young guys lack confidence. There’s some dorky fat White guys too. They just don’t have it, so they go cougar.

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  166. on September 2, 2009 at 3:27 am Cannon's Canon

    Off topic – Obsidian, if you’re out there, I thought of you when I read this:

    “While HBO is still in the “consideration” stage of bringing (Dan Savage) on, it’s also worth noting that they have yet to materialize a series that truly speaks to the experiences of women of color — be it same-gender-loving or straight — in America. HBO is actually operating on a deficit considering their typecasting of the sexuality of women of color in series like “Hookers at the Point.” And I, for one, am still recovering from “The Wire’s” 5-season-long attack on Black women, particularly Black single mothers. The prospects of programming that emphasizes race, class, gender and sexuality get dimmer and dimmer, now that a bigot like Dan Savage may be doing their sex-ed leg work.”

    This was written by some freakshow at feministing (yeah, i can’t help but indulge), criticizing the brashness of a fag comedian slash sex advice columnist. The author doubtlessly has a vagina between her legs, a vagina below her sternum, and a crown of penises sewn across her forehead, considering herself a pansexual trans-sapien and, of course, a “liberal progressive.”

    An attack on black single mothers? Sheeeeeeeit.

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  167. on September 2, 2009 at 4:43 am Chris Cooley

    “No. They just have no Game at all, and this is the best they can get. Note, however, that the Indian kid still seeks out the blonde women, steering clear of the Indian cougar in the first photo….The Betatude conditioning that Indians (and other Asians) have to unwind is immense.”

    This reminds me of Razib Khan (aka Newamul Khan) of GNXP. He’s a lecherous Hindoo who used to pathetically blog not infrequently about girls and trying to get with them. He often specifically lusted after white women and presumably still does.

    He doesn’t blog about this anymore and sticks to his science topics since gaining some more exposure online and having video of himself online. I guess he realized how pathetic and ridiculous someone like himself talking about and lusting after women comes across to normal people.

    You can see him give a decent impression of Paul Reubens here. I’ll warn you though. This vile Hindoo’s sickening and oily lust for white women just oozes through the screen. You can also almost smell the unholy mix of cumin and foul body odor his people are renowned for.

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  168. on September 2, 2009 at 5:34 am msexceptiontotherule

    This is when it’s the perfect time to render all equal by saying how you’re flattered by the interest but do not want to waste their time when you’re there simply to be out with one’s friends and would prefer to be left to continue doing so. Cut to the point, don’t waste anyone’s time, and if you are in a relationship, you shouldn’t be running around chasing other dicks.

    Oh, and if by some odd chance, you know that a guy has a girlfriend/wife/whatever, you should be stoned for chasing after his dick, and make that stoned by an angry mob after you actually go have sex with him.

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  169. on September 2, 2009 at 5:44 am gunslingergregi

    Well I have been back in us one day as of morning was actually in washington for a short time then on to home. In honor of G Manifesto I picked up a stripper who is ready to invest her money in me and understands my brain is worth billions. She admits to having high goals and of course is also cool with being number two. She told me I should write a book after I spoke with her for a short time (2 hours). She said she now understands money after listening to me and that she has read all the money making books she didn’t understand them and that I made it easy to understand. So yea she knows her place on the wheel seems an interesting prospect. I also was picked up by a black nurse chick in honor of obsidian while at an eatin park with my dad she is from dc and in process of moving to where I am at. Being my normal wild ass self. I was eating egg out of the chicks plate from my table while she was sitting behind us. Yea talking one wild day. From DC Cooincidence you be the judge. I also told the “registered” nurse chick that I had picked up the stripper earlier using my tractic of pure honesty and she said don’t put her number in the same category as the stripper she is better than that. Both of them said they can cook so it looks like I will be ok for help with healing process in area. Like chicks meet me and they think marriage what can I do? My dad is like wtf he said he attracts woman for conversations but I am like a magnet for the woman for beyond conversations relationships. The shit was happening all day everwhere we went lol I told him about blog. Those where just the serious ones. Irrational exuberance mixed with goals outside of woman gets the job done.

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  170. on September 2, 2009 at 5:45 am gunslingergregi

    Oh and whats going down ms exception he he he

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  171. on September 2, 2009 at 6:06 am gunslingergregi

    And I give credit I still got a blow job and I hadn’t showered in like 36 hours. I told her so. hahahahaah
    She was a trooper. This might be a keeper dedication level is strong.

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  172. on September 2, 2009 at 6:12 am gunslingergregi

    Brings to mind the eminem song about he back and out of control how does it go

    Guns is back
    back again
    Guns is back
    tell a friend
    Guns is back, Guns is back, Guns is back
    in the us

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  173. on September 2, 2009 at 6:21 am msexceptiontotherule

    gunslingergregi – and here I thought that it might be time to call in the covert extraction team to bring you in.

    “Oh and whats going down ms exception he he he”…

    You whore; definitely not going to be me. If I were looking in the first place, that is. For all intents and purposes, I might as well be wearing a chastity belt.

    Did the stripper tell you that you should go with her to the “champagne room”? How did you handle the other chick when you told her that you’d be putting her in the same category as the stripper anyway?

    Your dad should look into having you be the uber-wingman, but you’d probably have to keep women from trying to flock to you the whole time by force in order for him to achieve the desired outcome successfully.

    “As long as you don’t say anything to your mother.”
    “If you don’t say anything to my wife.”
    Ah, family bonding.

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  174. on September 2, 2009 at 7:32 am spunk

    @ you know who

    There is one simple reason why you should stay away from women who are taken: a woman who is prepared to cheat on his boyfriend will eventually just do the same to you. Even if she won’t, you have no way of knowing that she won’t. Cheating is also an indicator of poor character.

    {{Can anyone deny that the man in each of the above scenarios comes off as totally alpha?}}

    He comes off as a parody of a man. Which is exactly what a PUA is.

    ——————

    Why do you care if a toilet you are using had been used by other people(unless it was not flushed and really stinks, then find a cleaner one). or will be used by other people?

    She won’t technically ‘cheat’ on you, because you will avoid marriage and any LTR, so she does not belong to you. You may, however, DTB for fresher meat.

    Also, if the woman were chaste enough in the first place, no amount of PUA magic will be enough to produce gina tingles, lubrication and legs spreading. Takes two hands to clap.

    And PUA is not nihilism. On the contrary, all PUA does is advocate that you live life to the full, especially in the opposite sex-sexual department. PUA is realistic and practical. Much better than being a beta/mangina and begging for a mercy fuck by fuglies, or getting married and hoping to get lucky once in a while by spending lots of money, thus enjoying the legal, but routine and rapidly deteriorating pussy.

    So you think this is too hedonistic. Very well, go ghost-mode. Be _voluntarily_ celibate. Avoid and ignore all women. Channel your sexual energies and saved resources to accomplish something great. Hard to do, but possible for some men. Gets easier with age.

    In either case, you will avoid marriage and LTR with women. Therefore, you, as a man, win.

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  175. on September 2, 2009 at 7:51 am Anonymous

    @ Greater beta in ny

    ((“A few years back, when I was slightly more beta than I am now, I cheated on my distance girlfriend for the first time. I felt a bit guilty about it and when I came back to the tall redhead’s room, I told her I had a girlfriend.

    Her response: “I don’t care.”

    We had great sex that night.”))

    NOPE. DIDNT HAPPEN. THERE ARE ONLY TWO WAYS: ALPHA OR BETA. IF YOU HAVE NOT EMBRACED AND BECOME AN ALPHA THEN YOU ONLY RECIEVE VERY LITTLE SEX AND YOUR STORY COULD NOT BE TRUE. NO WAY THAT THE OTHER WOMENS GINA TINGLED FOR A BETA!!!

    God, don’t you read this blog at all? Dont you know that alpha and beta are not descreptive terms, but rather absolutes and everyone is one OR the other. There is no such thing as more or less beta. You are either celebate or an alpha. Please go back to the begining and re-read this blog. You have missed the point.

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  176. on September 2, 2009 at 8:12 am Alex

    In Brazil the standard answer is “No problem, I’m not jealous”. It’s saturated though.

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  177. on September 2, 2009 at 8:41 am Comment_Whatever

    Gunslinger, how did they fix your gallstones?

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  178. on September 2, 2009 at 8:50 am Pupu

    Gunny,

    Great to see the ordeal is over and the healing has begun. The stripper, the black nurse and above all, your girl are all terrific gals. You lucky dog. Muah, muah, hahahah.

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  179. on September 2, 2009 at 9:25 am Tarl

    Hey hey, it’s the National Cougar Convention! Aging wrinkled women and Asian betas, what a happening party that must have been…

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  180. on September 2, 2009 at 9:39 am Tarl

    D’oh I didn’t see the Arrakis post. Nevah mind!

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  181. on September 2, 2009 at 10:21 am aoefe

    Madonna was the guest speaker for the cougar convention and she brought Jesus with her as her boy toy. 😉

    K, gotta admit there is something bad about writing Madonna and her boy toy Jesus isn’t there? Burn in hell bad.

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  182. on September 2, 2009 at 10:23 am aoefe

    Hi Gunny! *waves wildly

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  183. on September 2, 2009 at 10:30 am Paul

    http://www.sbpdl.com

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  184. on September 2, 2009 at 11:00 am David Alexander

    Pictures are hilarious, though.

    Some of these women are better looking than the Hipster 6s that Tupac wants me to date. These women are far more sexual and feminine than the average Hipster…

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  185. on September 2, 2009 at 11:35 am hehe

    From the Cougars article comments:

    “I am a about to be 39 year old woman whose last bf was a 25 year old guy. I do not look a day over 28, and mostly get much younger than that guesses on my age. It is really about who you are attracted to, age really is not a factor…”

    LR in 4 years?

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  186. on September 2, 2009 at 11:40 am PA

    What’s interesting to think about is that me being almost 40, if I ran into any of the hot girls I lusted after in high school, today she’d seem like an old woman to me. Evoking desire on my part only if she kept herself exceptionally slim and classy. Presently I can’t even imagine being married to someone in her 30s or beyond.

    That’s why for happy LTRs, the 8-12-year age difference is best; even over 15 years difference in case of some personality combinations.

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  187. on September 2, 2009 at 11:48 am PA

    heh, now I remember that in my 20s, I had a friendship of sorts with an unusually hot 45-year-old woman. I had a drunken “encounter” with her once, no regrets at all. But she had a superfattie 19 year old daughter. In that case, the old momma was hot, and the teen was not. And they both knew it, which made it for an interesting dynamic.

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  188. on September 2, 2009 at 12:43 pm Cliff Arroyo

    As “I don’t care” becomes overused, what could take its place?

    Warning: most (if not all) of these will probably not …. work.

    Her: I’ve got a boyfriend.
    You: Down girl! We just met!

    Her: I’ve got a boyfriend.
    You: A whore said that to me once….

    Her: I’ve got a boyfriend.
    You: Yet here you are.

    Her: I’ve got a boyfriend.
    You: Life’s tough all over.

    Her: I’ve got a boyfriend.
    You: Are you trying to kill the mood here?

    Her: I’ve got a boyfriend.
    You: Hey! No threesomes!

    Her: I’ve got a boyfriend.
    You: One of those guys that like being treated like shit?

    Her: I’ve got a boyfriend.
    You: That’s not what I hear.

    Her: I’ve got a boyfriend.
    You: Will you cheat on him when you’re married too?

    Her: I’ve got a boyfriend.
    You: You don’t have any of him still in there (point at her crotch) do you? That’s kind of a turn off.

    Her: I’ve got a boyfriend.
    You: I figured as much.

    Her: I’ve got a boyfriend.
    You: That’s okay, I’m not prejudiced against trailer trash.

    Her: I’ve got a boyfriend.
    You: Guess that makes you an S-L-U-T.

    Her: I’ve got a boyfriend.
    You: How’d _that_ happen???

    Her: I’ve got a boyfriend.
    You: Chubby freak, huh?

    Her: I’ve got a boyfriend.
    You: After tonight, we’ll both have screwed him.

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  189. on September 2, 2009 at 12:48 pm JB

    “What’s interesting to think about is that me being in my late 30s, if I ran into any of the hot girls I lusted after in high school, today she’d seem like an old woman to me.”

    I don’t have to wonder — I have actually had this happen.

    Over the last year or so I’ve run into three women from my class — two of them I would have given my left nut to fuck in HS (as in unreachable goddesses.) All three looked like old women. No attraction whatsoever.

    I don’t seem to be attracted to any women over 28 these days.

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  190. on September 2, 2009 at 12:49 pm Firepower

    Stephanie helpered:

    Firepower – Hey, well you can assume whatever you want on the internet I suppose.

    kwl. thanks for the heads up, i suppose.

    so why is it youre so cold to guys

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  191. on September 2, 2009 at 12:55 pm Firepower

    gunslingergregi

    Brings to mind the eminem song about he back and out of control how does it go

    goma figger owt my sheet
    gedmesome tang
    blowoffacap…

    Lord Tennyson weeps with envy

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  192. on September 2, 2009 at 1:22 pm aoefe

    @Bhetti – I’m so 3008
    You so 2000 and late
    I got that boom, boom, boom

    Pow!

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  193. on September 2, 2009 at 1:29 pm Firepower

    hey be careful about your lilstalkage – you might give her a big head. we wouldnt want her ruinated

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  194. on September 2, 2009 at 1:43 pm RedMenace

    Alright. I have been reading Roissy’s blog for a while. So I guess it is a good time to join the ranks of the readers who are every day caressing his virtual balls in the comment section.

    The “I don’t care.” line works like a charm! I used it on this girl yesterday when she told me she is “seeing someone else who is out of town for a month” (probably complete bullshit, but who cares.) I guess my delivery was not perfect because I had to say it twice. But afterwards she just shut up about it and never mentioned it again.

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  195. on September 2, 2009 at 4:01 pm The Fifth Horseman

    The ‘I don’t care’ line is superb, and easy to remember, unlike other ‘borefriend destroyers’ from early in this decade.

    Just do it with a confident smirk, ala Mr. Perfect from the early 1990s WWF, and you are gold.

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  196. on September 2, 2009 at 4:03 pm The Fifth Horseman

    “As “I don’t care” becomes overused, what could take its place?”

    It WON’T become overused. Wasn’t the article just before this one about how we will not see Game saturation in the forseeable future?

    No mangina or BetaCon has the balls to pass this test. They will all just withdraw like gentlemen, failing the test.

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  197. on September 2, 2009 at 4:55 pm TimX

    “Pregnancy – in many states, the husband is responsible for support irrespective of paternity”

    What?!?! Are you serious

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  198. on September 2, 2009 at 5:35 pm Jack

    Instead of “I don’t care” how about “So?”

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  199. on September 2, 2009 at 5:48 pm RedMenace

    Since I have started posting already. Maybe I can get some quick advice.
    What do you do about the “I am not ready for a relationship.”
    test.
    The girl acts completely like we are together in public. I sleep with her, but she threw this line at me a few times. I usually just brush it off, but that is not a good answer it is just a delay.
    I need a definite good answer for this.
    (Yeah ok. So I can say, who the fuck cares, I get to fuck the girl, why would I care about my “status” with her. But somehow I feel like I am in a weaker position in this situation. I want her to admit that she is my girl.)
    Any thoughts on this?

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  200. on September 2, 2009 at 6:14 pm roissy

    What do you do about the “I am not ready for a relationship.” test.

    this shit test could mean one of two things:

    1. she *is* ready for a relationship and her insecurities about it are bubbling to the surface, so she preemptively denies her true feelings.

    2. she *isn’t* ready for a relationship and she senses that you are getting clingy.

    which explanation it is depends on a lot of factors, including how she said it and how strong her feelings are for you. MOST of the time, the shit test means #2. that is, most girls say this because they’re not sure about their BFs and they suspect he is getting too needy. see: 500 days of beta.

    now you’ve mentioned you feel like you’re in a weaker position with her. as i always counsel in matters of love and betaness: go with your gut. your gut is probably right — she is uncertain about you and, i bet, is already looking at her options. don’t be surprised if you soon hear the words “we need to talk…”.

    the other thought i have is that you need to read commandment #1 of the 16 commandments of poon. it’s #1 for a reason — a man should never “want her to admit that she is my girl”. a man has to be alpha and give his girl the freedom to come to him and earn her man’s love with her own.

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  201. on September 2, 2009 at 7:29 pm mjaybee

    @TimX:

    The laws governing child support are not at all sensible or fair. The laws concerning legal paternity of a child born to a married woman and fathered from outside of the marriage are known as “bastardy statutes”, and are different state to state.

    See:

    http://www.supportguidelines.com/articles/art199903.html

    http://www.theloveofmylife.org/thelaw.php

    More about Numerick’s case:

    http://blogs.record-eagle.com/?p=1381

    From that site:

    If a child is conceived and/or born while the mother is married, her husband is presumed by Michigan law to be the natural and legal child of the child. If the mother chooses to keep the biological father out of the child’s life, he has no legal right to pursue or exercise any parental rights. Frequently, biological fathers are denied the right to see their children. Often this occurs even when the father has already formed a bond with that child.

    A case like this occurred in Traverse City in 2003. The mother became pregnant and knowing she was pregnant, she married a man other than the biological father.

    Bill Numerick lost his case in the Michigan court of appeals. Read Numerick v Krull from the court of appeals.

    This is not an isolated incident.

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  202. on September 2, 2009 at 7:41 pm mjaybee

    The converse to this is that the husband, if he divorces the wife because of her affair and resulting pregnancy, may still be on the hook for child support after the divorce, even though DNA testing may prove he is not the father:

    http://newsok.com/dna-test-doesnt-stop-child-support-liability/article/3333733

    read more about it here:
    http://www.paternityfraud.com/

    and here:
    http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1144414531354

    From the last link:

    “According to a recent study in New Hampshire, as many as 30 percent of those paying child support are not the biological fathers of the children being supported. California is also expected to release results from a similar study later this year.

    “Paternity fraud is a growing concern for men and children everywhere,” the New Hampshire report concluded. “It can spawn considerable grief for the men who may or may not be emotionally attached to a child they later discover was fathered by another; and possibly unsettling for children who may discover the false nature of their paternity.”

    Attorneys and fathers’ rights activists claim that a big problem facing men today is that a large majority of states — 38 in total — still have laws on the books that require a man to pay child support, even with DNA evidence showing that he is not the father.

    Most states rely on a 500-year-old English common law doctrine, which holds that a married man is always legally presumed to be the father of a child born of the marriage.”

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  203. on September 2, 2009 at 8:22 pm David Alexander

    That’s why for happy LTRs, the 8-12-year age difference is best; even over 15 years difference in case of some personality combinations.

    In contrast, I think that’s evil and wrong with such relationships being the province of losers and manipulators.

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  204. on September 2, 2009 at 8:28 pm PA

    When nine years from now you’re 34 and frolicking with a 22 year old cutie who has all the signs of being great LTR material, call me and tell me how much of a loser you feel you are.

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  205. on September 2, 2009 at 8:40 pm David Alexander

    When nine years from now you’re 34 and frolicking with a 22 year old cutie who has all the signs of being great LTR material, call me and tell me how much of a loser you feel you are.

    Of course, you’re making the foolish presumption that at the age of 34, I’d actually attempt something resembling a relationship. Regardless of such foolish thoughts, why would I want to spend my time with a girl who has no life experiences or great stories to tell? Why would I want to be responsible for smothering her spirit and saddling her with a family and responsibilities at 25? Why would I want to date a woman that’s around the same age as my still cute and lovable niece?

    Again, why?

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  206. on September 2, 2009 at 8:52 pm PA

    Of course, you’re making the foolish presumption that at the age of 34, I’d actually attempt something resembling a relationship.

    Maybe you will, maybe you won’t. Advice: have some single male buddies who share your interests. Without that you’ll start morphing into a wierdo no one wants to be around.

    My o m e g a friend Ace is example of a guy with no female fortunes, but he’s cool because he has lots of guys who hang out with him, including natural alphas. His o m e g a buddy Mike was a loner and a wierdo-techie-nerd who creeped everyone out until he improved his personality when he joined my gym.

    Why would I want to date a woman that’s around the same age as my still cute and lovable niece?

    What’s your niece got to do with anything?

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  207. on September 2, 2009 at 8:59 pm roissy

    voyage to the center of the troll:
    Regardless of such foolish thoughts, why would I want to spend my time with a girl who has no life experiences or great stories to tell?

    judged by your fear of failure and general uselessness of a life, it’s likely that a 22 year old girl will have more experiences and great stories to tell than an 80 year old you.

    Why would I want to be responsible for smothering her spirit and saddling her with a family and responsibilities at 25?

    saddlin’s got nothing to do with it. most chicks want to start families before 30.
    now if she doesn’t want to be saddled with kids, then you have heard of condoms? birth control pills? vasectomy?
    of course you have. you’re just being a ridiculous troll again.

    Why would I want to date a woman that’s around the same age as my still cute and lovable niece?

    your non sequiturs are braindead.

    Again, why?

    stop asking questions for which you already know the answer.

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  208. on September 2, 2009 at 9:29 pm David Alexander

    Without that you’ll start morphing into a wierdo no one wants to be around.

    I believe that happened in November 1983.

    Interestingly, I want very little to do with the railfans since most of them are downright creepy and scary and make me look rather normal, and the roadgeeks think I’m a heathen because I like trains. Plus, I suck compared to the other photographers, so it doesn’t leave much options in that department. I guess get to play loner! 🙂

    I must admit, I like having female friends since I can be sub-human and not put on a massive show, while with male friends, you have to guard your feelings and attitudes.

    What’s your niece got to do with anything?

    Dating a girl who at that age difference reeks of family molestor. One would end up imprinting the mental mindmap of “don’t touch” on all the girls in her age cohort. It’s similar to how some men can’t date women who are near their daughter’s age.

    judged by your fear of failure and general uselessness of a life

    You’re right. She’d be bored with stories of riding the train in Europe and roadgeeking in Anglo-America. There are other older guys who’d tell great tales of adventure. Mind you, would you want to listen to her silly 22 year old claptrap? The thirty-something girl at least has some respectable tales to tell, but I may be biased from the experiences with my former mistress.

    most chicks want to start families before 30.

    Which makes no sense to me, as you’re wasting your youth on children instead of personal fufillment and pleasure maximization. You will never get those years back if you wait until you’re 50-something.

    stop asking questions for which you already know the answer.

    Porn delivers excellent orgasms too with skilled masturbatory techniques and proper lubricants.

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  209. on September 2, 2009 at 10:16 pm Gunslingergregi

    ”””””””’aoefe
    Hi Gunny! *waves wildly
    ””””””””””””

    Gives aoefe a biiiiiiiiggggggggggggggggggggg hugggggggggggggggggggggg

    And a Sloppy wet kiss!!!

    and another one

    he he he

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  210. on September 2, 2009 at 10:21 pm Gunslingergregi

    ”””””Comment_Whatever
    Gunslinger, how did they fix your gallstones?
    ”””””””’

    Gonna cut em out. My sister is working on getting me good place to do it. Permission from heatlth insurance. They just realeased me on the us.

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  211. on September 2, 2009 at 10:38 pm RedMenace

    @Roissy
    Thanks. That is a very good analysis.

    The thing is I can’t quite tell if it is option 1 or option 2. I get
    mixed signals for that. I do not feel clingy because I do not feel a great attachment to her, but I am too nice so I can see how she can think I am clingy. I am trying to scale my
    niceness back as much as I can.

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  212. on September 2, 2009 at 10:50 pm Gunslingergregi

    ””””””””’Pupu
    Gunny,

    Great to see the ordeal is over and the healing has begun. The stripper, the black nurse and above all, your girl are all terrific gals. You lucky dog. Muah, muah, hahahah.
    ”””””””””

    I don’t know why I seem to get nurses. Must be something to do with that study that was done. he he he

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  213. on September 3, 2009 at 2:44 am Truth

    She was that much easier, in spite of her “semi-serious boyfriend” probably cause she was happy at dumping her Asian boyfriend for a chance with a Caucasian one.

    “You had me at hello” was her likely M.O., as it is with most Asian women who have a chance with a White guy.

    […] In conclusion, I think that Kate just likes white men better than Asian men, possibly because watching television taught her to value those male characteristics more commonly found in white men than in Asian men, but Kate feels sort of guilty about it, so she is trying to blame Asian men for stuff that isn’t really their fault. […]

    http://www.halfsigma.com/2009/08/kate-complains-about-asian-men.html#comments

    All the more paradoxical and ironic, since many, if not most, of the White guys Asian women go for and after are quite the “Herbs” themselves.

    As you yourself pointed out before Roissy –

    […] “No non-fatty white girlfriend would tolerate such nauseating beta shit for long. His ass would be dumped as soon as the bartender winked at her. Is it any wonder guys like this hone in on Asian girls? I don’t blame them. With the Asian girlfriend, they get to be all the beta they can be, without fear of reprisal. And they don’t have to settle for a fat chick.” […]

    “Don’t Be This”
    http://roissy.wordpress.com/2008/12/15/dont-be-this/

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  214. on September 3, 2009 at 8:05 am you know who

    mjaybee

    If a beautiful woman offers herself to you, it is an insult in the eyes of God to refuse her.

    Married, or single.

    Except this isn’t true, because Christianity forbids or discourages pre-marital sex.

    spunk

    And PUA is not nihilism. On the contrary, all PUA does is advocate that you live life to the full, especially in the opposite sex-sexual department.

    “Living life to the full” by fucking almost anything that has a vagina does not mean you aren’t a nihilist.

    PUA is realistic and practical. Much better than being a beta/mangina and begging for a mercy fuck by fuglies, or getting married and hoping to get lucky once in a while by spending lots of money, thus enjoying the legal, but routine and rapidly deteriorating pussy.

    It’s not a choice between being either a PUA or a “beta.”

    So you think this is too hedonistic. Very well, go ghost-mode. Be _voluntarily_ celibate. Avoid and ignore all women.

    I am already doing so.

    In either case, you will avoid marriage and LTR with women. Therefore, you, as a man, win.

    How does that make me win?

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  215. on September 3, 2009 at 8:08 am you know who

    Meant to say that Christianity forbids adultery, as well as sleeping with someone else’s wife.

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  216. on September 3, 2009 at 12:50 pm mjaybee

    If you are a devout Christian, why are you posting here?

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  217. on September 3, 2009 at 2:13 pm Comment_Whatever

    Gunslinger wrote:

    I was eating egg out of the chicks plate from my table while she was sitting behind us.

    Gunslinger, you do know that eggs are the single food most likely to trigger a gall-bladder attack ?

    The good doctors did give you a list of foods to avoid/eat in small amounts while waiting for your surgery to prevent another attack, right?

    Diagnose-Me doesn’t even list any other food, but has this to say about eggs:

    http://tinyurl.com/5jcex

    Egg consumption is a very frequent cause of gallbladder symptoms. It is uncertain whether the white of the egg is partially or totally responsible for this allergic reaction. Most studies have eliminated the entire egg when addressing this problem.

    For both raw and cooked eggs.

    e-how.com says this:

    http://www.ehow.com/how_4857580_prevent-gall-bladder-attacks.html

    To prevent gall bladder attacks, eat a low fat diet. A diet that is low in saturated fat and cholesterol, and limits overall fat intake to about 20% of calories is ideal. This approach will not cure gallstones, but it can help prevent recurrent attacks and reduce the chances of new gallstones forming.

    Eggs have pretty much more cholesterol per gram than almost anything else.

    And an alternative medicine site said this:

    http://www.drmyattswellnessclub.com/Gallbladder.htm

    The most common allergenic foods were found to be eggs (92.8%), pork (63.8%), onions (52.2%), chicken and turkey (34.8%), milk (24.6%), coffee (21.7% ), and oranges (18.8%). Corn, beans, nuts, apples, tomatoes, peas, cabbage, spices, peanuts, fish, and rye accounted for between 1 to 14.5% of gallbladder attacks. 14 of the 69 study participants (over 20 percent) also had gallbladder attacks caused by medications.

    So, to avoid attacks before your problem is resolved, you need to avoid certain foods and also avoid over-eating fats in general. However, removing all fats from your diet, even for a day, is likely to result in problems. The gall-bladder will completely fill-up with bile. When it finally empties, it will empty aggressively. This can potentially trigger an attack. The gall-bladder needs to be emptied regularly, in a ‘easy’ not-so-much fat manner.

    Also, you can lower the intestines ‘demand’ for bile salt from the gall-bladder by eating bile salt. Specifically the chemical ursodeoxycholic acid. It is an animal bile salt found in many animals and also in people. You could, if you want, pay 300 dollars for 100 500 mg pills of ‘Actigall'(ursodeoxycholic acid). On the other hand, you could spend around 15 dollars for 100 500 mg pills of Ox Bile(a lower purity source of ursodeoxycholic acid). You do probably need to take 2 pills of Ox Bile to have the same effect as one pill of Actigall…. so it’s not like Actigall is THAT overpriced. Heh.

    The Actigall(Ox-Bile) is also used to dissolve gallstones, so it may even help improve the problem on it’s own while helping to prevent another attack.

    Gunslinger, I’ve found more information, and I’m not nearly as happy about the gallbladder removal surgical solution as I was. And I never was that cheerful. It can go bad. Messily bad. There are better surgical solutions(and non-surgical) if you don’t care about the possible ‘re-occurrence’ of gallstones. Not re-occurrence of gallstone attacks, just gallstones, requiring another smack-down. I’d like to talk to you more about it. You can email me at whatever894@yahoo.com

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  218. on September 3, 2009 at 2:20 pm Comment_Whatever

    This is continued from a first post that may still be in moderation:

    And an alternative medicine site said this:

    http://www.drmyattswellnessclub.com/Gallbladder.htm

    http://www.drmyattswellnessclub.com/Gallbladder.htm

    The most common allergenic foods were found to be eggs (92.8%), pork (63.8%), onions (52.2%), chicken and turkey (34.8%), milk (24.6%), coffee (21.7% ), and oranges (18.8%). Corn, beans, nuts, apples, tomatoes, peas, cabbage, spices, peanuts, fish, and rye accounted for between 1 to 14.5% of gallbladder attacks. 14 of the 69 study participants (over 20 percent) also had gallbladder attacks caused by medications.

    So, to avoid attacks before your problem is resolved, you need to avoid certain foods and also avoid over-eating fats in general. However, removing all fats from your diet, even for a day, is likely to result in problems. The gall-bladder will completely fill-up with bile. When it finally empties, it will empty aggressively. This can potentially trigger an attack. The gall-bladder needs to be emptied regularly, in a ‘easy’ not-so-much fat manner.

    Also, you can lower the intestines ‘demand’ for bile salt from the gall-bladder by eating bile salt. Specifically the chemical ursodeoxycholic acid. It is an animal bile salt found in many animals and also in people. You could, if you want, pay 300 dollars for 100 500 mg pills of ‘Actigall'(ursodeoxycholic acid). On the other hand, you could spend around 15 dollars for 100 500 mg pills of Ox Bile(a lower purity source of ursodeoxycholic acid). You do probably need to take 2 pills of Ox Bile to have the same effect as one pill of Actigall…. so it’s not like Actigall is THAT overpriced. Heh.

    The Actigall(Ox-Bile) is also used to dissolve gallstones, so it may even help improve the problem on it’s own while helping to prevent another attack.

    Gunslinger, I’ve found more information, and I’m not nearly as happy about the gallbladder removal surgical solution as I was. And I never was that cheerful. It can go bad. Messily bad. There are better surgical solutions(and non-surgical) if you don’t care about ‘re-occurrence’ of gallstones. Not re-occurrence of gallstone attacks, just gallstones, requiring another smack-down. I’d like to talk to you more about it. You can email me at whatever894@yahoo.com

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  219. on September 3, 2009 at 2:27 pm Firepower

    Comment_Whatever

    Gunslinger, you do know that eggs are the single food most likely to trigger a gall-bladder attack??

    goddam.
    MY pet woverine
    is gonna shit

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  220. on September 3, 2009 at 4:32 pm Fabian

    One improvement on “I don’t care”:

    HER: I have a boyfriend.

    HIM: I don’t care. *pause**slight smile* And neither do you.

    Then you move in for the kiss.

    That does more than just pass her shit test; it distinctly reveals her mirage-like feminine sophistry for what it is.

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  221. on September 3, 2009 at 4:45 pm Comment_Whatever

    Firepower wrote:

    goddam.
    MY pet woverine
    is gonna shit

    Actually, Firepower, it’s about 40% of the +500,000 people who annually have gall-bladder removal surgery that have to take a shit.

    Generally on very short notice.

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  222. on September 3, 2009 at 5:37 pm Ghost of Nicole

    El Chief says, “Alphas are strong and have standards. Be strong.”

    I agree. Sometimes it’s not the women you shag, but the women you reject that shows your status.

    Rejecting, even brutal rejection of lying hoes is great asshole game. I got to see it in action once. It was brilliant. I got the tingle even though I knew I had no chance with the guy. So I “fed” him a hot acquaintance who didn’t have a boyfriend.

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  223. on September 4, 2009 at 10:33 am Silver Fox

    Roissy you HAVE to do a feature on Ashley Dupre / Gov. Spitzer….calling out gold digging in NYC !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    http://www.nypost.com/seven/09042009/news/regionalnews/feisty_ny_gals_kick_some_ash_188037.htm?sortType=1#comments

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  224. on September 4, 2009 at 12:49 pm Greg Magarshak

    My responses were:

    I have a boyfriend
    “Don’t change the subject”

    or

    I have a boyfriend
    “Do you also have facebook?”

    I won’t share the more effective ones 😉

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  225. on September 4, 2009 at 12:57 pm Firepower

    Silver Fox

    Roissy you HAVE to do a feature on Ashley Dupre / Gov. Spitzer….calling out gold digging in NYC !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    even I’ll admit, if i were as preoccupied with helping The Little People (as Client #9 so publicly was) and had no time for pussy patrolling NOBU, I’d make the thrice weekly appointment to blast a stream of my luv-seed on her abs.

    such a sweety

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  226. on September 4, 2009 at 1:02 pm Bonnie

    She looks like a man.

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  227. on September 7, 2009 at 1:35 am Cannon's Canon

    Her: “I have a boyfriend.”
    Animal Thug: “I have 20 girlfriend. You want some?”
    Noreaga: “Yo chilllll, Animal Thug! Put the AK away!”

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  228. on September 7, 2009 at 1:39 am aoefe

    You know what?

    I don’t care.

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  229. on September 7, 2009 at 8:25 pm Gunslingergregi

    This chick calling me ten times a day wtf

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  230. on September 8, 2009 at 11:52 am Sick Game « Roissy in DC

    […] voice sounded muffled ricocheting off my phlegmy sinuses. I barely spoke, prefering to nod or give one word answers when she asked me questions. I didn’t smile once, not even when she tried to be funny. When […]

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  231. on September 8, 2009 at 5:38 pm Lee

    No. All the other responses suck!!!

    Ignore all the asses on here trying
    to be quip and smart. All of their
    responses royally suck. And their
    PickUpArtist language suck too.

    A neutral to somewhat disdainfully
    delivered “I don’t care” is the best
    response. You don’t care if she is
    shit testing you, if she is trying
    to get rid of her guilt for flirting with
    you, or if she is just a flirt whore.

    You do not care. Say it without
    even looking at her. Walking away
    after saying it is even better.

    “Who cares? I don’t.” is another
    good variation to deliver with a bit
    of snobbish disdain in your voice.

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  232. on September 8, 2009 at 10:24 pm Jonny

    Uh, what moron made “cheating” some deep
    rooted ethical or moral matter?

    Probably some guilt ridden flirt whore bitch
    came up with it to rationalize, intellectualize,
    and justify her guilt. Come on…

    Women feels no guilt so why the fuck should
    us guys feel guilty or put some moral label on
    it? And if she so called “cheats” when she
    has a BF, she is doing something wrong? So,
    it is all on her? Leave it to some bitch to say
    something retarded like that.

    Also, it’s perfectly OK to say to a cheating whore
    “I don’t care” if she did not cum or if she declares
    that she loves you.

    We are not talking about committed relationships
    with husbands and wives and SO in here.

    We are talking about some flirtatious bitch
    who declares at the last moment after handing
    out a ton of flirts, ton of indicator of interest,
    and a ton of laughter at your way. So fuck her.
    And yes, “I don’t care!!!” Better, “I don’t care a shit!”

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  233. on September 9, 2009 at 7:29 pm Tinderbox

    aoefe:

    Haven’t read comments yet but my immediate reaction to him saying “I don’t care” in the context of your story means to me ‘he wants me’. He wants me enough NOT to care that he could be getting in another dude’s way. That is why she lights up with lust – confirmation she matters.

    HER: I don’t think I’ll have any free time this week to meet up.

    YOU: I don’t care. *unspoken – I’ll wait as long as I have to just to see you again….

    You’re quite the optimist.

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  234. on September 11, 2009 at 6:57 pm Kemal S.

    Chris C. @
    “You can see him give a decent impression of Paul Reubens here. I’ll warn you though. This vile Hindoo’s sickening and oily lust for white women just oozes through the screen. You can also almost smell the unholy mix of cumin and foul body odor his people are renowned for.”

    Well Chris. It seems that you really don’t seem to like Indians that much… and such is your right. Personally, I’m no fan of Razib, though he posts something of interest now and then. From what little I see, I find him to be a pretentious and petty prick. By correction, as a purported Muslim apostate (though many self-claimed ones floating on the net are actually Hindus by birth), he would likely be more Mongol than Hindoo.

    That said, from all accounts, the “Hindoos “ as you put it (and I like your archaic spelling, it’s more phonetically accurate than modern ones) did come up with the concept of the zero, and an early version of the numerical system we happen to use. This is worthy of some respect. Curry, in moderation, is quite tasty and healthy, though excess can lend a strange odor to the person.

    Odd: you wave “Razib’s” lecherous tendencies over his head, by posting on a blog devoted to, well, lechery.

    As for his “oily lust”, frankly to each his own. I personally find many Desi women very attractive, some Indian women are quite fetching indeed, but to each his personal tastes. Maybe Razib’s simply lacks game enough to know what to do with his own women (notorious ice queens often) and finds women here easier to access. Or perhaps, out of a post colonial inferiority complex (common with many Indian men) fucking his former master’s women gives him some thrill. Either way, what is it to you?

    Every nation has women of a distinctly different type of beauty, some are more attractive to others. Expressing resentment over a foreign jackass’s lust for one’s own women, while passing a blind eye to similar lecherous tendencies expressed by one’s own people, is rank hypocrisy. You have a right to be a hypocrite, and I have a right to point it out to you. It is my hope that as a man with intelligence, you would at least consider the matter of the resentment in your heart and its origins

    Nietzsche had it right, resentment ill befits a man of strength. Resentment is the mark of the whipped cur. Are you a whipped cur? Many men are, irrespective of race, for the dominant social order has a special emasculation distinct for each racial group’s men. And each wallows in his own resentment, not seeing the larger game afoot. So too with Razib whose blog used to reflect certain petty resentments of his own. Of course I don’t think much of the man. And I’m not talking to him.

    It bears noting that there is an “allure of the other”, is a documented sexual dynamic. Men from differing ethnic and racial groups, when immersed in a foreign dominant culture, often find the women there to be particularly delicious. I refer you to Richard F. Burton’s colonial observations, or the bar talk of many expats in Asia. I’ve known guys who develop definite tastes, overseas, for women other than their own, and frankly had no intention of “going back” You may or may not find some horror in their miscegenation, but I doubt these guys would particularly care. The obsession with breeding stocks and the purity of those one fornicates with is a bit of an absurdity, when one reflects on it.

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  235. on October 16, 2009 at 12:47 pm Nutz

    I’m willing to bet I’m not the only one who thought of Han Solo reading this.

    Leia: I love you.
    Han: I know.

    Pretty much the same thing IMO.

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  236. on July 21, 2010 at 2:55 am cheshirecat

    There is one simple reason why you should stay away from women who are taken: a woman who is prepared to cheat on his boyfriend will eventually just do the same to you. Even if she won’t, you have no way of knowing that she won’t. Cheating is also an indicator of poor character.

    It’s sex.

    I don’t care.

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  237. on July 21, 2010 at 2:58 am cheshirecat

    All she really needs is permission. The “I don’t care” could just as easily generate a “wait a minute, I do care” response from her.

    If she cared all that much, she wouldn’t be continuing her line of conversation/flirting with him.

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  238. on October 7, 2010 at 8:51 am Two. One. None. « Not Another Game Blog

    […] “I don’t care.” She didn’t respond to that. In fact, every time I’ve tried that line, no girl has responded. Maybe I’m saying it wrong. I just don’t get it. Possibly related posts: (automatically generated)Something I’m Not Proud Ofyou make me smile, please stay for a while now.Assignment 6 from → Bitches, Women ← Gut No comments yet Click here to cancel reply. […]

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