Generally, most pickup instructors teach men the importance of remembering to smile on the approach. Their thinking is simple: Girls prefer the company of smiling men, because a man who is smiling is showing that he has what he wants in life. In reductionist terms, he’s advertising his worth as a provider and broadcasting his positive emotional state as a man who, the woman is likely to assume, gets his share of pussy. A woman’s hindbrain is more apt to label an impassive stone-faced man with the celibate loser scarlet L.
Examining my own successful pickups, I can recall not smiling much at all for at least half of them. Maybe a coy smirk, after introductions were made, but certainly my face was not shining brightly with the happy, smiley glow of a motivational speaker working the audience. I’ve always thought that the advice for men to smile was a bit overblown, but I could never put my finger on exactly why this is the case.
Now evidence has come out from OKCupid’s in-house blog team that smiling in profile pictures on their internet dating site is not the boon to men that many would think (link provided by reader Ben).
Men’s photos are most effective when they look away from the camera and don’t smile:
Maybe women want a little mystery. What is he looking at? Slashdot? Or Engadget?
My first thought is along the the same lines. Women do have a tingle for the international mystery man. This is why salesmen on the road score so easily. It’s the “expert from afar” phenomenon that women can’t resist. Possibly mixed in with a little of the ol’ subconscious desire for hybrid vigor. The problem for women, as is the curse of their mercurial gender, lies in the tension between two contradictory pulls that happens in their brains — women love dark mystery men but they also love happy, smiling, social men. What is a woman to do? The smiling social man and the mysterious brooding man are hardly ever occupied by the same man (although I have made an art of managing it). Judging by OKCupid’s data, the best course of action for a man who insists upon internet dating (it’s a sucker’s bet for the average man) is to post a picture of yourself staring intensely into the distance at the horizon. Or at a stripper just outside the picture frame. The girl looking at your profile pic will never know the difference.
While internet profile pics are only a simulation of real-life face to face interactions, the knowledge gleaned from internet messaging habits does help inform men what might work best in a nonvirtual scenario (what used to be known as “getting out of bed in the morning”). For instance, if you are going to play “serial killer stare her into submission” your best course of action is to leaven your hard stare with a flirty grin. But you’re much better off not making intense eye contact. If women prefer the man who looks preoccupied with something else besides her, then in a social situation you want to limit your pre-approach eye contact to the bare minimum (just enough to make it register with your target) and refrain from excessive smiling, if at all. You also want to look like your full attention is directed elsewhere, and that it requires a serious face. After all, a man’s business is serious. Always. With a heavily hooded sorcerer’s robe and the right lighting (stand over a floorlight) you can attract more than your fair share of curious women, then wow them with a surprise smile once she peeks under the hood.
So unlike the advice of a lot of pickup instructors, I say don’t smile at the girl when you are walking toward her. Don’t frown either, of course. Just a dab of deviousness will do ya.
There is a lot of interesting data mining at that post, so go ahead and read the whole thing.


Already saw the okcupid site through stumbleupon, cool to see it here too. One thing that I realized halfway through, though, is these guys have a vested interest in making their results as “controversial”/”against the grain” as possible, because it’s basically a viral ad for their dating site. In other words these aren’t tenured researchers we’re talking about here. Still very interesting if the results hold, though! 🙂
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first hahahahahaha SHIT IM FUCKIN AWESOME
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Smiling IMO is definitely overrated. Excessive smiling can look EXTREMELY approval seeking and needy (IOW extremely beta). I’ve always noticed that I get the most attraction signals from women when I’m not smiling (I’m not frowning or anything though my face is just completely neutral). I smirk from time to time and that’s about it. Smile only when there’s a reason to smile and even then don’t overdo it.
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In Russia, in the Arab world, and in a lot of the non-feminized West walking around with a smile on your face = people think you’re an idiot.
That said, a reasonable man might ask here if it’s so complicated with these American bitches why bother. Just move to Vietnam!
American women should be civilized by being beaten into submission…not “gamed.”
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“A strong smile hides a weak chin.”
General principles: smile often with your buddies and while doing other things, but only smirk (if that) on the approach, and only smile when she’s said something you like. She should earn your benevolent and charming smile.
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In humans, smiling is a lot like tail wagging in dogs: it signals friendliness and happiness, but also submission. Alphas don’t wag much.
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PS. You should also smile when telling stories that include fond memories. But that should be human nature and not something you have to consciously think about.
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“Smile” is kinda vaque. My experience is that I get more unsolicited interraction with others if i am in a good mood. A gleeful smile is goofy. A hint of a smirk means I’m thinking about something interesting, devious, something you probably want to know. All of which is usually true.
One of my favorate smiles is the one where I see a chick who’s put hours into her ‘look’, yet understand she’d really rather her hair pulled, make-up smeared and clothes haphazardly dissheveled by a fit of lust.
I suspect they understand that smile too.
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Women are delightful creatures who equate smiling with diaphanous memories of laughter. That turns into sprightly humor stirring fond remembrances of gilded glee which they outwardly relish, but actually despise – so I recommend abandoning humor as a tactic. It makes you look like a faggot.
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I sat down in a chair that was broken and hit the floor. I didn’t smile I finished my sentance. The woman were like wtf this dude hits the floor and doesn’t get rattled and doesn’t get embarassed. wtf he he he
Remain calm cool and collective even in fucked up situations.
Unless your wife is laughing when you miss a swing with a golf club then its ass spanking time.
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Smile during fights though I mean why not its fun.
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That graph is an extremely poor presentation of data. If they want bar graphs, they should scale all the bars starting at 0 to get a more accurate visual representation of how the different approaches compare.
The data are interesting, though. One thing that jumps out is how close the “eye contact” results are. It seems like if you’re looking at the camera, it doesn’t seem to matter much what you do – you’ll get just about the same results.
I disagree with online dating being a sucker’s game – it’s a different sort of thing, but it sets up a dynamic that can be extremely good for game.
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A massive grin makes one look deranged/stoned/simpleminded.
A subtle/wry/mischievious grin works well.
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It’s more complicated than that.
Like all tactics and strategies, it just comes down to how tight your game is.
Smiling needs to be thought of more as a tactic than a representation of “inner game”.
Smiling/laughing are very effective when a woman initially resists or might try to blow you out prematurely (before she realizes what a bad ass you are).
Encouraging a guy with weak game to not smile isn’t going to help him any more than telling him to mask his many doubts with a smile will.
I recently spent a few weeks in Brazil and didn’t speak a lick of Portuguese. I noticed that I could still get somewhere with my opens if I continued to smile/laugh in a way that said “I’m above all your silliness, why are you ignoring me?”
I could then kino relatively easily if they ended up laughing along (and it shouldn’t surprise you that these girls didn’t even know why they were laughing!)
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titan
“A massive grin makes one look deranged/stoned/simpleminded.”
Or makes someone look like they took a really clean E-Tab.
– MPM
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About a year ago you had a post with a photo from a bartenders’ function, and you analyzed each dude’s likely degree of alphatude. You pointed to about four guys who stood stif and unsmiling, and rated them as beta wih talpha ambitions, or something like that. I agreed with that, by the way.
As I recall your analysis, the grinning guys generally were more alpha, but the sly smile, faraway look ones were rated the highest. Of course, there were no actual betas inthe photo, as this was a top-bartender event, no place for betas to graze.
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Direct game: Must smile, especially day game, otherwise you trigger the weirdo/fear response
Indirect game: Smirk or disinterest.
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i think this is right, but it’s also context-dependent. if you don’t smile or laugh during a funny conversation or after a joke, you come off as humorless and boring. but i agree with the posters above that if you have a grin plastered on your face all the time, you look like an idiot. Americans do tend to smile more during ordinary conversations, including with strangers, in a way that non-Americans often don’t. it’s part of our socialization. so there’s that to keep in mind outside the US.
also part of pickup is keeping the energy level up, so as to be intersting and not boring, and humor/elevated mood is usually correlated with that. you can’t have an energy level suited to dominating a group or interaction if you’re just mysteriously staring into space.
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i think roissy had it right here:
The study I link to in this post is informative.
Women love the part of the smile that indicates their benevolence towards others within the man’s social circle: the woman, his friends, her friends, his family, her family. A *genuine* smile and laughter with those people is a plus because it indicates that he will share his resources with her.
If he smiles at every Tom, Dick, and Harry it indicates that he is less protective of his resources and overly benevolent. Women like men more if they display dominance over other men. If he’s overly friendly, he’ll share his resources with others thereby leaving less pie for the woman.
I believe women are equipped with detection devices to tease out which kind of smile is which. A man who dotingly smiles at everyone is a supplicating beta who a.) won’t gain access to many resources out of non-dominance and b.) will share access to those resources with too many people if he does.
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Its all about playing up your strenghts.
Most guys are not good at FAKING smiles. Fake smirks or fake serious faces are much easier. Most guys will look really, really awkward FAKING a smile compared to faking other looks.
Now if you are thinking of something genuinely funny or even laughing on the inside at the jokes you are telling her or game you are running…then a real smile will be a good thing.
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In a setting where cold approaching is less likely how should one smile? For instance, im in college, in a good fraternity. I’ve almost completely eliminated the need for cold approaching b/c im constantly being introduced to beautiful women through friends.
On that note, anyone know of any good resources for this type of game? I feel like all these oppurtunities are there and im not capitalizing
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That one made me smile.
Sorry.
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Good stuff here. And important from a strategic standpoint, I think.
Consider this. In my own experience, when I see a picture of a beautiful girl, I get horny. When I see a beautiful girl in real life, I get anxious.
Would the same dynamic apply to women’s psychology? I think a smile may be important, because you seem nonthreatening and lower a girl’s bitch shield. When she views you in a picture, on the other hand, without the tension of live interaction, her hindbrain may want to be intrigued rather than disarmed.
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This is a simple example of online game vs. real life game, where the rule-sets are completely different. You’d never also list all your hobbies or answer a few hundred questions for compatibility in the first ten seconds of meeting someone in real life but that’s starting requirement. Also online you can arrange a rape of your ex-girlfriend and in real life that would probably be a bit more difficult.
See,
http://articles.latimes.com/2010/jan/11/nation/la-na-rape-craigslist11-2010jan11
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1. I love how wrong the “experts” giving advice were. Hm, I wonder what gender most of them are?
2. Roissy, perhaps you are right that online dating is a sucker’s bet on average, but el chief here has met and banged several dozen hotties online, and even dated a few 😉 I recommend trying online dating, only for the laboratory aspect of it all.
3. The key to my success is what I call ADHD game. I happen to have ADHD, and it tends to make me appear aloof and unimpressed most of the time. Not because I am, but I get easily distracted.
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@thedcam,
I respectfully disagree with your assertions about answering questions and listing hobbies…Doing this is not good online either. For guys who use online dating sites, realize that you shouldn’t play it straight there either.
For twenty and thirty something white guys in big urban areas, Match is BY FAR the best choice and nothing on their profile needs a long or overly serious answer.
(Off topic but all of the free sites (Okcupid, etc) tend to be filled with very young, very suburban flakes who want to talk for 2 months before ever meeting, and Eharmony is filled with desperate cougars.)
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Dude. College game is basically all social proof. You’re in a frat and being introduced to beautiful women all the time by other girls/guys who think you’re a helluva guy. That’s half the battle right there. From there, just alternate between teasing, and a few DHVs (to build attraction), and light comfort game. Don’t be shy with the kino, and escalate it throughout. From there you’re bascially home free.
And practice, practice, practice, practice—field test what works for you and what doesn’t.
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My natural inclination is to smile when meeting someone new or meeting up with old friends. I imagine it is probably true that not smiling (or smirking instead) is more of an alpha move. But with me it wouldn’t work and would seem too forced. Guess I just need to make up for this in other ways.
Of course, I do see the point about guys who are always smiling looking like beta/omegas.
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Saying “smile” is sort of like saying, “stand with confidence.” There are lots of ways to do this. Mischievous smirks can work. Smiling like a dolt who has just made a load in his pantaloons won’t work. While I’m not a big fan of studies done on online dating websites: I concur with their conclusions. Dudes who smile for photos generally look like tools. They’re also demonstrating their inherent pussy-boyness by complying with the postulated photographer saying, “smile.” Looking away from the camera also shows off a strong jawline, and gives a James Bondian pose to the whole thing
Fun online dating observation from Brother Lupo; I went on one of them things looking for furrin ladies (you can search by language and such). Generic witticisms on my profile netted me a lot of dates with middle eastern, south american and eastern european girls; nice change of pace, but nothing special, sort of 6-7’s, 30 somethings, -with one exception, not even worth leaving the house really. Lots of generic American nitwits with too many miles on the odometer too, but I just ignored them. No rooskies though; lame. I recently turned up the volume to “Jesus, you broads are a bunch of fucking retards; I’m leaving, here’s what you douches have to do to impress me or anyone else who ain’t a complete loser.” Actually, it was even more over the top than that; complete bastardliness. Suddenly, I’m GQ with the rooskies. And not the weaksauce old babushkas either: all are under 25, lean and purdy. Roissy pointed this out before: Rooskies require the caveman treatment. I believe I have now conclusively proven this using electronic technology. I mean, I knew it from dealing with them in person, but it’s pretty funny how it plays out on the interbutts.
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One of the first things I learned on my own before ever hearing of anything PUA was that not smiling is actually better.
I used to go out smiling a lot thinking my evident good mood would surely appeal to women. It didnt work. I got pissed and stopped smiling because it produced no results.
Voila! Suddenly girls were into me.
The advice to smile was one of the reasons I was – and remain – in deep disagreement with much of the PUA advice. So much of it is just bad and after field testing, just doesnt work.
There are even studies that show that men in positions of power and authority smile much less than men whose status is low and who HAVE to smile to ingratiate themselves.
These days, though, I dont make a POINT of not smiling and I do just as well. Why?
Because at the end of the day, and what so many PUAs dont grasp, is that almost any action – including smiling – can be an expression of weakness or of strength. Some smiles are very obviously attempts to please, ingratiate, and make people like you – BAD!
Sometimes, though, smiling can be the opposite of any attempt to ingratiate and can be an expression of high spirits or self-satisfaction – GOOD!
Yet despite what many PUAs are desperate to believe, there is NOTHING you can directly do to make sure you are giving off the right kind of smile rather than the wrong one!
Thats why the focus on pure action is so misplaced. Your body is wiser than you, your neural wiring is wiser than your conscious intention – you must have the right state of mind, or the right attitude, and your body and face will NATURALLY express that state and attitude!
Drunk, in the heat of the moment, spontaneous – you REALLY think you can so minutely control how you express emotion? The greatest actors, with lengthy training, have trouble, but YOU can, after reading some PUA e-book?
Uh-huh.
So forget about smiling or not smiling. Not smiling can express fear or lack of relaxation, or it can express calm self-confidence – which will your face express? Focus instead on your state of mind and attitude. Dont try to micromanage your emotional leakage – you cant do it!
Go in with the attitude *I will make no effort to ingratiate myself with women. I am not here trying to expressly PLEASE anyone. That is degrading and not my role. It is not my job to please people. I have a right to act out my personality whether it ingratiates me with others or not* – actually SAY this to yourself mentally, and you will PROGRAM yourself to express the correct emotion, when youre drunk and self-forgetful and in the heat of the moment. Your face will KNOW what to do, because your face is merely a vehicle for your MIND to express itself.
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all I do is some fist pumpin in the air and bitches swoon.
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Speaking from personal experience, smiling had a significant boost to me game. When I got my teeth professionally whitened it had another boosting effect as well. All that being said this is regarding live instances. It’s entirely possible online game may have a special ruLes for smiling though. My advice is to test it for yourselves and see what works..
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So what is this blog now? Roissy-lite?
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More evidence on smiling:
http://tierneylab.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/02/23/solved-the-mystery-of-the-miserable-models/
“I would guess that to the extent that direct gaze and smiling represent the desire to please, and that pleasing is a strategy for social success that smaller, less attractive people use to get by in the world(speaking from personal experience here), that the larger and more attractive you are, the less you are prone to try to please. Moreover, the desire to please is itself (in a circular fashion) a message you send out to people about your past successes (or lack thereof) in the social hierarchy, hence on a metalevel is itself a message about desirability. In other words, all of this is the old “playing hard to get” routine — if you are playing hard to get (by not smiling and/or by not looking at people directly) then this sends a message that you must be worth pursuing.”
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That’s what they want… The MUGSHOT! It’s a mugshot they want to see! Nothing says manliness like that snapshot for B&E from Riker’s Island, gets the ‘ginas tingling every time!
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My own findings point at a rather effective strategy that works for me when it comes to smiling.
Walking on the street and coming across a hot woman. The “strategy” (the quotes are mostly because it’s just something that comes naturally to me, probably why I find it effective) is to lock gazes as we approach. If she doesn’t do it (looks away, is distracted with something else) that’s it, but often enough she will. I hold it for an instant, then let out a faint half smile – half in the sense that only one side of the mouth moves noticeably. I like to think of it as a “knowing smile,” as in “you know what I’m thinking, don’t you girl?”
For some reason, this very direct gazing and half-smirk works well without being intimidating. Often enough she will stop first, or look kinda abashed by it – look down while suddenly holding her hair seems a common enough response. If done intensely enough, she’ll say “hi” first. Surprisingly it works for both day and night game.
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I have been approached by girls countless times for not smiling when going out by myself looking as dejected and rejected as I feel. They will either ask me why I’m not smiling or order me to smile.
Once it went like this:
Her: “Why are you not smiling?”
Me: “I have no reason to smile.”
Her: “I am talking to you!”
While I had to admit she was was right and that did put a smile on my face, I had no game at the time to take it further.
Not smiling is an excellent way (maybe the only way) to get girls to actually approach you, though probably for the wrong reasons.
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“That’s what they want… The MUGSHOT! It’s a mugshot they want to see!”
You’re probably right, goodbye Tenzil, hello painthufferguy!
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Completely agree with this roissy. For years i have been smiling like an idiot at every hot girl i see on my way to uni (we all live in a effective student village) and only the average ones noticed me. the truth is, hot girls get smiled at and noticed all the time and they ignore it. but if you look straight ahead and only pretend to notice the girl almost accidentally (close to the point of passing her) it works wonders. i cant tell you how many times ive got girls checking me out in my peripheral vision when i was ignoring them as opposed to the masses looking directly at their perfectly formed rear ends/boobs.
(p.s. if you ever want to see fuck off gorgeous chicks in england, go to birmingham university. you will not be disappointed and they are way less pretentious then london chicks)
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From an older woman’s perspective, a naughty smirk is much more interesting than a goofy grin… unless… circumstances are such that you’ve had embarassment thrust upon you, not of you making. In that case, a goofy grin with a bit of dimple, a show of brushing it off, and a laughing turn back to your companions is actually really hot. A guy who’s comfortable enough to laugh at himself and then get on with life? Sexy, because he’s comfortable in his own skin.
Entirely serious International Man of Mystery? Been there, done that. Usually he’s all hat and no cattle.
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Smiling is an evolutionary submission signal. It means: I’m not a threat, you should like me, don’t hurt me. Don’t do it too often.
See the excellent “The Definitive Book of Body Language,” http://j.mp/bOgft7.
Or watch an episode of Mad Men and observe who laughs at the jokes in meetings: the men with the least power.
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on January 26, 2010 at 4:17 pm collegeboy
all I do is some fist pumpin in the air and bitches swoon.
Anonymous
That’s what they want… The MUGSHOT! It’s a mugshot they want to see! Nothing says manliness like that snapshot for B&E from Riker’s Island, gets the ‘ginas tingling every time!
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lol
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Aaaaaaaannnnnndd let’s not forget the importance of physical stature here.
A broad, goofy grin on the face of a 6’4″, 255-pound linebacker is not equivalent to the same broad, goofy grin on the face of, say, Neil Strauss (who is also about the size of a linebacker – in fifth-grade Pop Warner football).
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I concur with the first paragraph of what Lupo wrote.
Except, in my case, I look away from the camera because my attention has already moved on to something else (or even two or three somethings else, depending on how slow the photographer is).
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More research about what people find attractive; this time about dancing:
http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/0,1518,673238,00.html
They took videos of people dancing and measured their prenatal testosterone via the digit ratio. Then they showed videos altered so that all you could see was the silhouette to members of the opposite sex.
“The results showed that women gave the highest attractiveness ratings to men with the highest levels of prenatal testosterone.”
The professor being interviewed gave one BS opinion: “Those men who made big moves but who were less coordinated came across as dominant alpha males — and were unlikely to win women’s hearts.” But overall it’s pretty interesting reading.
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Ah, fuck, and I thought looking into the camera would be a good thing. Time for new pics!
I do give a slight “I’m fucking unbalanced” look, though, which is probably why I get a decent response rate – especially from the bitchy “replies very selectively” types.
I have actively avoided some girls because they had 6 or 8 pics and not one smile to see. You know that’s gonna be a veritable bitch train. You had me neutered at “hello”.
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very interesting article and comments!
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Mad Men the dude a slave to work and his wife not someone to emulate really.
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Smile with the eyes alone= good.
Smile with mouth alone= bad.
Both= maybe.
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It’s all in the timing, and the context.
Mindlessly following the dictum “Don’t smile” would probably be as fruitless as following the dictum “Smile.”
What kind of smile? When is it employed? In what context? At whom?
Looking happy to be there is a good idea while walking alone through a bar — I suspect it was pickup students looking glum in this context that prompted Mystery to stress “smile” as an alpha-male quality.
On the other hand, beaming with additional happiness just because a girl is talking to you is a DLV. She should earn your smile by qualifying herself. If you’re already smiling, you have nowhere to go.
And a false smile (mouth only, not in the eyes) is always creepy and off-putting in any context. You have to mean it. So “smile” really comes down to inner game — you must be truly happy with yourself (and thus always appear content) and truly believe that women should impress you with more than their looks.
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Power is right. The smile is closely related to another gesture – pulling the corners of the mouth directly back, exposing the teeth. This is a submissive gesture. I saw this somewhere in the BBC mini-series “The Human Animal.” There are links to watch it online here: http://www.metafilter.com/85201/The-Human-Animal-by-Desmond-Morris
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I just re-watched the video. The relevant portion is around 33-34 mins in on part 1.
Pulling back the corners of the mouth and exposing the teeth is a universal “fear” gesture. It looks close to the smile, which evolved from the fear face. The fear face is sometimes used as a “I am not agressive” symbol, which is pretty close to “I am friendly”, which is how the smile evolved.
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Smiling it good for the social phase of the game. Players are always smiling around people.
The curious, seductive look is for the sexy phase of the game. When you get the girl alone, the sexy phase begins.
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There’s something about a guy who looks like he’s occasionally been known to stab a guy as punishment for breaking one of his rules (don’t touch my beer, don’t manhandle my woman, don’t stare at me directly for too long..etc)
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Roissy, I m glad that you are back in business !
Iceberg slim once said, never underestimate the power of whipping that chestchire smile off your face! men who smile too much seem like they are hiding an insecurity.
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msexceptiontotherule
“There’s something about a guy who looks like he’s occasionally been known to stab a guy as punishment for breaking one of his rules (don’t touch my beer, don’t manhandle my woman, don’t stare at me directly for too long..etc)”
Yeah, usually it’s the police. Or maybe it’s his felony record that makes him unemployable. Yep….sounds like a real winner to me!!!
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No gt that is white males that are unemployable he he he
Look at our own laid off examples on site.
”””’Yeah, usually it’s the police. Or maybe it’s his felony record that makes him unemployable.”””””
Really if you look like that it doesn’t come to that for some reason.
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appreciate you clearing that up
mystery lost me with the “guys who get laid… smile” as a rainbowesqe generalization
girls who are really into me (all of them) tell me to smile more
if i oversmile… they end up complementing my teeth… and thats gay; too much confidence for a chick in my presence
janka’s recent youtube vid is in A,TX; do i know something he doesn’t?
muahaha.
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Question: I know that it is better to not gaze intently at a girl to whom I am speaking. My hearing is terrible, though, and hearing aides that you can’t see easily are expensive and, I find, really annoying. So when talking to a girl, I tend to look at her mouth a lot. If I don’t, I frequently can’t understand what she said (which is usually just babble anyhow). So, suck up the cost and irritation and get the better hearing aide or what?
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Look at this: http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0008733
Notice what it says about what people see when thinking they are looking at a Republican vs. a Democrat. People perceive those who are “warmer” aka smilers as Democrats while perceiving those who look powerful aka non-smilers as Republicans.
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Smile is an accessory.
Men cannot wear that many accessories. We women can — they add to our appeal 🙂
Pupu finds that at the right occasion, a smile from a man can make him attractive and make a woman feel special.
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Not a big fan of smiling.
I’m happy being a non sociable grouch.
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It’s very hard for me to fake a smile anyhow, for me it’s a display of weakness and a fake attempt to be friendly. I’m not a smiley person by any means but it hasn’t gotten me laid any(I have been approached almost every time I go out, to no avail though) so there’s more to this theory that I’m missing here.
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It really depends on the person. There is no one foolproof guide for approaching. I typically smile on the approach but i don’t overly smile during the whole pickup, just enough to let her know im not going to tie her up in my basement (well, maybe) 🙂
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LOL, this must be THE most pathetic thing I have ever read in my life, and the fact that the Omega men here take it as gospel truth adds to the fun.
This is up there with your “Black men,white women” post.
Oh, and your statistic, did you get it from Steve sailer by any chance?
You’re not “alpha” and you never will be. Get over it! lol
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Cataloguing a woman’s red flags is no better than cataloguing a man’s red flags. Something I’m sure you (Roissy) would vehemently oppose. If you’re not going to also catalogue the white flags, you’re a fool of the highest order and not worth any woman’s time. Try taking a giant leap from the left side of your brain to the other side once in a while and you may actually start enjoying life instead of spending every waking moment calculating your next move.
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^ posted on wrong article.
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“GT
…msexceptiontotherule
“There’s something about a guy who looks like he’s occasionally been known to stab a guy as punishment for breaking one of his rules (don’t touch my beer, don’t manhandle my woman, don’t stare at me directly for too long..etc)”…
Yeah, usually it’s the police. Or maybe it’s his felony record that makes him unemployable. Yep….sounds like a real winner to me!!!”
Should I *always* have to use emoticons so that people know when I’m being sarcastic?
😉
There.
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Omegas don’t smile but nobody thinks we’re alpha.
Omegas and alphas are superficially similar in many ways, so if you try to get an omega to act like an alpha, we won’t understand the subtle differences and we’ll get resentful.
Mystery’s nuanced smiling advice is good because we natural omegas need to spend some time as a greater beta, completely re-evaluate ourselves, and fine-tune our social antennae before we attempt to progress to alphadom.
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ATC
I agree with you that there are no shortcuts between kindergarden and grad school. People need practice relationships. Young guys are well served to fuck cougars.
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To: msexceptiontotherule
Your response made me smile.
Thank you.
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So the sum total of this post is: Make sure your smile is genuine and appropriate.
Do I have that right?
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The evil smile works best.
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“GT
To: msexceptiontotherule
Your response made me smile.
Thank you.”
No problem. 🙂
My task here is completed.
(at least for this post)
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