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Chicks Dig Jerks: A Series

January 29, 2010 by CH

Every once in a while, when I sense the white knighting idealism beginning to take a stronger toehold on the thinking of some of my readers, I like to offer helpful reminders about the true nature of the creatures they are doomed to forever misunderstand.

In today’s special edition, a Seattle 19 year old pimp legally named Deshawn Cashmoney Clark was convicted for running a prostitution ring (hat tip: reader Master Dogen). This is not the most humorously banal angle of the story, though. No, the really SHOCKING, HEAVEN FORFEND surprise is how his harem of hookers is sticking by this uber-asshole’s side.

When that teen left the area in early 2008, Clark took up with a then-15-year-old girl he’d also met while attending school in West Seattle.

The two had been dating for several months when Clark propositioned her, demanding that she “walk the track” on Pacific Highway South and solicit payment for sex. While she did so, Clark would monitor her earnings by cell phone.

“If he felt that she was taking breaks unnecessarily, he yelled at her to get back out on the track and make him some money,” O’Donnell said in court documents. “At the end of each day, he returned to pick her up and took the money she had earned.”

The girl had run away from home while working for Clark, O’Donnell told the court. In one instance, the girl’s mother believed she had located her daughter. Instead, she found Clark, who, with a smile, issued her a warning.

“You will never find her,” Clark said, according to court documents. “I’ve got her so tight. She’s all mine.”

That girl — tattooed in Clark’s honor with the words “daddy’s little girl” — continued to support Clark throughout his trial, even as he married another woman.

Cashmoney wasn’t bluffing. He had her locked down, because she *wanted* to be locked down by him. This is a revelation about the female mind that escapes the logical thinking of so many men — why would a woman want to be with a man like Cashmoney? Why would any woman willingly offer herself as a rentable hole to a man hawking her goods to streetside bidders? Because women want to submit to a powerful man. Whether that power comes in the form of a crooning emo rock star, a CEO, or a pimp daddy with fists of fury doesn’t matter. All that matters is the male power, and the tingly feeling of submitting — wholly, completely — to that power. Every woman, deep DEEP inside, wants to be “daddy’s little girl”.

One admitted pimp and Street Mobb member, Mycah Johnson, described learning how to manipulate and intimidate young women from Clark.

“‘Cash’ showed me how to be a pimp,” Johnson wrote the court. “He would tell me where I should have (her) work and would explain how to use Craigslist to post her ads. He told me how to manage (her), specifically with respect to the money she earned — I was to keep all of it.”

Betas everywhere would do well to read the life stories of pimps. They have some useful advice. Naturally, the anti-game crowd will squawk “oh but these women were being manipulated!” They love that word manipulate. Cling to it like a newborn chimp to its mother’s furry belly. So much can be dismissed for consideration by shotgunning that word “manipulation” into any conversation about men and women they find distasteful. Unfortunately for them, it isn’t as readily dismissible as all that. Like hypnosis, you can only manipulate those who are manipulable. Those who, at some level, wish for the manipulation because they enjoy it. It is for this reason that the term manipulation is next to useless — apply a broad enough definition and you indict any goal-oriented communication as “manipulation”. Seduction? Manipulation. Sales? Manipulation. Politics? Manipulation. Convincing a buddy to see a great movie you just saw? Manipulation. No, Cashmoney’s honeys craved his manipulation. It TURNED THEM ON. How would he and his brethren pimps otherwise know how to “handle” women in the prime of their marketability? He knew because the evidence was staring him in the face — women who would fall for him, screw him, defend him, and yes… even love him.

The cries of “manipulation” ring louder. “Those women didn’t know what was happening to them!”, they will scream. Right-o. Funny thing is, the world is full to brimming with lovelorn betas attempting to manipulate women into sex and running headlong into a major road blockage. Their manipulations aren’t working. Some manipulations are clearly more effective than other manipulations. And which ones would those be? Well, the manipulations that turn women on!

Addressing North, defense attorney Alfoster Garrett, Jr., argued that, while his client profited from prostituting the teens, they were willing participants in the scheme.

Describing Clark as a “scapegoat,” Garrett noted that his client was 16 or 17 during at the time he was accused of prostituting the other youths.

This is one of those few times I agree the defense attorney has it exactly right. What else do you call an employee of Clark’s who cheers him on in court except a willing participant in his lifestyle and chosen career? Who you gonna believe, your lying eyes or a bunch of sociology trained femtards? It’s time to reform the law. Yes, as ringleaders and the administers of violence, pimps are more culpable than their whores, but whores share some of the blame. A fair justice system would punish all parties involved.

While he their circumstances may have made them susceptible to the pimp, Clark’s upbringing set him on a path to crime.

“He is a product of his environment,” Garrett said, asking that Clark receive an exceptionally short sentence.

Actually, his genes set him on his path of procuring limitless loyal poon. His environment only greased the skids.

North rejected the contention that the teens’ former involvement in prostitution evidenced a desire to continue in that life.

“I don’t find that the victims were willing participants,” North said. “It’s a complex relationship not unlike a domestic violence situation.”

Paging Rihanna. Still nurture pangs of love for your past lover Chris Brown, don’t you babe? I know, I understand. CH is here. No judgment. Pour out your heart. I won’t bite. Much.

North’s decision to impose the 17-year term followed a plea by Clark’s 19-year-old wife, Julata Clark.

Julata Clark, who gave birth to Deshawn Clark’s second child weeks before he was sentenced, said her husband is young and able to change his life.

The hilarity train keeps on rolling. Hey, Cashmoney had family values. The guy got married! Gotta love a wife with two kids storming court to support her husband’s pimping, carousing, and general assholery to the nth degree.

And society’s gotta love that this guy, at the ripe age of 19, already pumped out a couple of spawn while MBA toting 30 year olds examine their stock portfolios to gauge whether now is the right time to have that first autistic, underweight baby.

A parting thought. Owing to the rank stupidity or, more generously, the willful misinterpretation, of a minority of my readers who can’t wrap their minds around the simple concept of is-ought and who fervently believe (or secretly wish) my posts detailing in loving glory how much chicks dig jerks is tantamount to advocating every man set himself on the path of pimpdom, let me remind you that I am merely a courier of reality. I tell you how it is; what you do with that knowledge is up to you. The Pimp’s Way holds much truth about the nature of women in their fertile prime from which the average law-abiding man can personally benefit, but that truth does not need to come delivered in the same package to be effective in your own lives. You grasp the truth, and then you apply it to yourself and your dealings with women in the way that is most congruent with your values.

And to the all-too-predictable choir of cliche-spouters: No shit not *every* woman likes assholes. Do I need to put that addendum after every fucking sentence I write, or are you capable of discerning the all too obvious subtext? Here are my thoughts on the phenomenon of chicks digging jerks:

  • Like most things about human nature, the female asshole-loving urge runs along a bell curve. To the far left we have women who would have nothing to do with assholes. To the far right we have Cashmoney’s honeys. Bunched in the middle are most women, who despite their protestastions to the contrary get tingly for an asshole, but won’t see it all the way to shacking up with a pimp.
  • So many overaged yentas write to me telling me indignantly how they despise assholes and would never do what the girls featured in my posts do. I don’t have reason to doubt them… much, but I would remind them that the types of women who are most fond of assholes are exactly those women men most desire — that is to say, the young, supple babes with sex in their eyes and femininity in their souls. As women age out of attractiveness, they also (coincidentally!) age out of their attraction for assholes. Which brings me to…
  • Maxim #71: In their sexual primes women’s attraction for assholes is at its strongest. You can catch a lot of hungry flies with honey, but shit attracts the most well-fed flies.

Tune in next week for another edition of “WOW, that’s news to me!”

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  1. on January 29, 2010 at 12:33 pm Anon

    Ok, the real Roissy is back.

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  2. on January 29, 2010 at 12:36 pm Andrew

    I’m going to pimp skool then.

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  3. on January 29, 2010 at 12:37 pm Hughman

    Been reading for almost a year now. Found you after Rollo Tomassi gave you props on SoSuave (which I had been reading for a few months, mainly in beta rage)

    I never had scales over my eyes like most betas, I had some natural instinct, but the Western media had taught me to look but not.

    You’ve helped me to see Roissy.

    Life is a rigged game. And I intend to win it.

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  4. on January 29, 2010 at 12:40 pm Jonas

    “Betas everywhere would do well to read the life stories of pimps. They have some useful advice.”

    This one looks promising:
    http://www.amazon.com/Pimp-Story-Life-Iceberg-Slim/dp/087067935X

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  5. on January 29, 2010 at 12:42 pm Nemesisesq

    New Reader, Brilliant analysis and commentary.

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  6. on January 29, 2010 at 12:52 pm Anonymous

    “Bad Guy” http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0307213/

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  7. on January 29, 2010 at 1:09 pm anony

    Manipulation– it exists. Mother-in-laws manipulate their kids’ families. Overbearing bosses manipulate their reports. Bossy kids manipulate others. No surprise that extremist men can manipulate weak girls from the ghetto, who’ve had no experience with men as fathers. Don’t we all subconsciously want to submit to a higher power? When men are inexperienced and naive, don’t they also submit to the more powerful men?

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  8. on January 29, 2010 at 1:12 pm Crimsonride

    Vox Day, the man through whom I found your blog, has a post tweeking your male hierarchy. While interesting, I find his idea of “sigma” a bit silly.

    http://voxday.blogspot.com/2010/01/roissy-and-limits-of-game.html

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  9. on January 29, 2010 at 1:21 pm PA

    Was that a runaway suburban teen or a “girl from the ghetto” like Anony suggests?

    I noticed no reference to the girl’s father. A songle-mom situation or divorce/no custody for the dad?

    On topic: a 1990s movie “Boxing Helena” is about a woman who falls in love with her captor, who progressively amputates all of her limbs so that she would stay dependent on him. She refuses to be rescued when her boyfriend breaks in and tries to save her.

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  10. on January 29, 2010 at 1:24 pm gunslingergregi

    17 years for being a pimp. God dam beta jealousy can be a bitch. Need to put hidden cameras in judges chambers then pimping out peoples wives who are getting a divorce.

    Obviously he wasn’t getting all the money since the woman were obviously eating and had a place to live right.

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  11. on January 29, 2010 at 1:28 pm gunslingergregi

    You can’t pimp the woman for sex and make lots of money. Business on the other hand can pimp a womans time and it is all cool and the gang.

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  12. on January 29, 2010 at 1:35 pm Lee

    Jonas- buy it
    anony- i certainly do not submit, or want to submit to any power.

    Last week i posted up to a bar in a chain restaurant. Very cute female bartender (9, 9.5 no bullshit) serves me. I’m the only one at the bar so we talk. She asks me what I do. First I tell her that I rob drug dealers.
    Then I tell her that I’m unemployed and I live in my grandparents walk in closet.
    Then I tell her that I grow organic vegetables in my back yard. I sell them at a local farmers market for huge profits. (thanks roosh)
    It drove her fucking wild that I wouldn’t tell her. I wouldn’t be surprised if she had NEVER had a guy not answer her questions. She asks me if I live in the town that I was at. I say, “No” and turn my attention to the hockey game on TV.
    She walks away then comes back 5 mins later and says, “Your different”.
    We kept talking and the subject of femenism came up. I told her I thought it was complete bullshit. I also told her that if I’m with a girl I own her and when I have sex with a girl I’m taking her, I’m having her.
    Her less attractive coworker thought I was disgusting.
    Hottie? she wrote her number on the bill.
    True story

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  13. on January 29, 2010 at 1:41 pm The_King

    @Gun

    Not if her parents, friends or beta clients paid for those things. He would still get 100% profit from selling her and services. Cmon now.

    Pimping is def lucrative if you know how to do it right.

    Jerks are basically masculine men who can’t or won’t control their natural impulses from testosterone.

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  14. on January 29, 2010 at 1:54 pm Ari Hinkelberger

    The best example of this is the scorned lover deal. Bitches NEVER remember the guy that bought them flowers, they never take calls from the guy who told them they were beautiful.

    But watch how the chick reacts when the guy that fucked them over calls 10 months after he left. Their eyes LIGHT up. Girls will always take the call from the guy that scorned them. Always. This is exactly what your jerk theory speaks to.

    It’s the craziest deal i’ve ever seen.

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  15. on January 29, 2010 at 1:57 pm Jack Burton

    Not objecting to anything in the post, but I think someone ought to mention that a decent society would hang this piece of shit within a week of his arrest.

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  16. on January 29, 2010 at 1:57 pm Rollo Tomassi

    the world is full to brimming with lovelorn betas attempting to manipulate women into sex and running headlong into a major road blockage. Their manipulations aren’t working. Some manipulations are clearly more effective than other manipulations. And which ones would those be? Well, the manipulations that turn women on!

    This is the textbook definition of Beta Game.

    Like any other Beta animal, alternate methodologies had to be developed in order to facilitate human breeding under the harsh conditions of Alpha competition. In essence, and as found in the wild, Beta males have developed (evolved?) methods to ‘poach’ potential females from an Alpha’s harem, or at least in this case his perceived, potential harem.

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  17. on January 29, 2010 at 2:03 pm anoukange

    This is all true. And you even covered the middle ground and the grays, thank you for that. People have the right to be extremists, but others have the right not to be.

    Woman do look to be dominated and led, but the belief and proof of a guy’s “alphaness” is shown over time. That’s why they stayed and defended him. A lot of proven alphaness is shown to a girl by what is happening behind closed doors as well. Much is chatted about how a guy needs to be in open society, but clearly this pimp “brought it” on a more complete level to have this type of loyalty from his women. Woman want to be loyal, they want to be guided and those who claim they don’t just don’t know their own fears yet. Men have the power to take and shape what comes out of a woman. Be careful with the asshole term…if the girl is no longer enjoying herself, she is not turned on. Men seem to have the most trouble with the degree of asshole they apply.

    I don’t think woman lose the likeness for alpha/asshole ways as they get older, I think some simply prefer a guy who has mastered the levels of it. One who can apply the most subtle lines around her. A more suave “asshole”. That’s one of the few great angles of aging, everything becomes more loaded.

    also, there IS “the daddy complex” for a majority of women, and then there’s the “professor complex” for some others. Same difference except age changes. A guy eight to twelve years older than a girl is a very nice dynamic that isn’t forced. He will be more learned and more knowledgeable. He will be like a professor to her. It crosses into “daddy” territory when money comes in.

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  18. on January 29, 2010 at 2:04 pm Chi-town

    In a high school setting power in the form of money fame of politics really does not come into play. The dominance on display is the bully. Since most kids are given a slap on the risk, most kids benefit from rebellion. That is the first male power women see. This effect wears off slowly as the age and see new forms of power. Women must be very flexible on what they see as the current standard of power.

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  19. on January 29, 2010 at 2:05 pm ExtraMedium

    17 yrs for pimping is way too much. Donte Stallworth (a football player) got 30 days (he served 24) for DUI manslaughter!

    The 1st 30mins of “American Pimp” gives great game tips.

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  20. on January 29, 2010 at 2:19 pm Bill

    This is good stuff. I think anyone who responds negatively to this post hasn’t read the whole thing. You answer the standard objections well, and this should be a watershed for objectors in the future. Again, one can pimp, but that doesn’t mean one should. In ltr’s one should use the information to make their relationship better. Guess what, the chick will dig it too. The really uptight chicks, you just pass it off as roleplay. I came to game from this point of view: I was just out of a long ltr, and falling into another one rather quickly, and wanted to avoid the prior mistakes (basically your worst beta nightmare). Got wind that the new chick used to like bad boys when she was younger. When we met I was on my motorcycle with another chick riding on the back. Later I go looking into how to keep women interested over the time, and I accidentally the whole thing. Go figure.

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  21. on January 29, 2010 at 2:36 pm The G Manifesto

    Good breakdown.

    Andrew

    “I’m going to pimp skool then.”

    There are many things you can learn from observing Pimps, that apply to swooping girls and life in general.

    I wrote a data sheet a while back: Veins of Ice: Lessons from The Pimp

    http://www.thegmanifesto.com/2007/06/veins-of-ice-lessons-from-pimp.html

    – MPM

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  22. on January 29, 2010 at 2:49 pm 11minutes

    Bell curve my ass (I miss the will for harsh truth that once reigned this blog).

    There is no Gaussian distribution of what is attractive. Not for men (that is why porn works), and not for women.

    Read some speed dating studies if you really doubt my words. It is not normal distributed.

    Age is the one variable that explains it all, as you point out.

    Women will protest all kinds of things when it comes to sex. This is partly due to social expectancy bias, and partly because women have a very poor judgment about what actually turns them on (remember that piece in the New York Times on how women get all lubed up for monkey porn despite their claim to the contrary? Yep).

    The reason younger women dig assholes is that they are still in the game for alpha sperm. Older women who fail to attract the top dogs and therefore settle for beta providerism (which they will rationalize as “having been jaded” / “having become mature” / “having had enough fun”/ “time to settle” / biological clock”) are credible source when it comes to what women want.

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  23. on January 29, 2010 at 2:52 pm 11minutes

    oops. “least credible” that is.

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  24. on January 29, 2010 at 2:56 pm Bill

    Looks like the French owned the Brits vis-a-vis the G-Spot:
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/7095849/French-correct-British-scientists-G-spot-does-exist.html
    For the record, it does exist, is in slightly different locations on different women, and I can vouch for it working. But focus on finding the clit first, you apes.

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  25. on January 29, 2010 at 2:58 pm Firepower

    And society’s gotta love that this guy, at the ripe age of 19, already pumped out a couple of spawn while MBA toting 30 year olds examine their stock portfolios to gauge whether now is the right time to have that first autistic, underweight baby.

    It’s a peculiar karma that displays itself so grandly
    in the squishified Seattle –
    land of the Green River Killer, thy name is Irony.

    I loooove Irony

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  26. on January 29, 2010 at 3:04 pm Bill

    Ahhnd, that brings us to my Beta-of-the-month submission for January:
    First comment by Jeff on this page:
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/rowanpelling/6939736/So-the-G-spot-doesnt-exist-after-all-Thank-God.html
    To wit:
    “My partner of 19 years eventually discovered her G spot during a secret 4 year affair with a much older man possessing a curved (upward) penis and adopting a missionary position with leg raised back towards her shoulders hence pressing against the area in question.
    She admitted her other lover made her climax during penetration. I always failed this trick before this revelation. I only succeeded giving her a climax during oral sex stimulating her clitoris (which incidentally is the most satisfying she says).
    We are still happy together after her confession. I now manage to give her a vaginal climax during intercourse by position her legs right back and her pelvis right up and back. Whether the curved penis helps is debatable but the position of the legs and hip is important for me to succeed (I am only a straight penis chap); this arouses that magic area. It usually follows by clitoral climax during oral sex. I think woman have the potential to climax in different ways if they choose to do so. In my partner’s case the G spot was a set of circumstances not subjective feelings.
    It is a pity it took a secret affair to find out how! Science has failed me in the past and this attempt is too shallow in my opinion. “

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  27. on January 29, 2010 at 3:15 pm Anonymous

    Treat ’em like bitches or they’ll find someone who will.

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  28. on January 29, 2010 at 3:20 pm Willard Libby

    North’s decision to impose the 17-year term followed a plea by Clark’s 19-year-old wife, Julata Clark.

    Julata Clark, who gave birth to Deshawn Clark’s second child weeks before he was sentenced, said her husband is young and able to change his life.

    Here’s Mrs. Pimp.

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  29. on January 29, 2010 at 3:21 pm collegeboy

    …pimp legally named Deshawn Cashmoney Clark…
    Cashmoney wasn’t bluffing…
    …why would a woman want to be with a man like Cashmoney?

    roissy theres no way you typed that without laughing.
    that name is pimp.

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  30. on January 29, 2010 at 3:38 pm luvsic

    Vox’s post is a good one.

    Nothing silly about the concept of a sigma, they’re just unusual, but they exist.

    I’ve observed women’s attraction to the guy who is difficult, mysterious and won’t engage with social norms if he has the right formula.

    Those guys aren’t alpha but they don’t want for poon.

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  31. on January 29, 2010 at 3:38 pm Liverlips

    Serious question – are there any white pimps in America?

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  32. on January 29, 2010 at 3:43 pm anoukange

    “Women must be very flexible on what they see as the current standard of power.”

    Chi- yes, so true. If a guy has “it” in high school, he is either a natural or a faker. If he has “it” when he’s older, he is either still a natural, a ‘self-made’, or a faker.

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  33. on January 29, 2010 at 3:45 pm gunslingergregi

    ””””””’gunslingergregi
    You can’t pimp the woman for sex and make lots of money. Business on the other hand can pimp a womans time and it is all cool and the gang.
    ”””””’

    ”””””””’The_King
    @Gun

    Not if her parents, friends or beta clients paid for those things. He would still get 100% profit from selling her and services. Cmon now.

    Pimping is def lucrative if you know how to do it right.

    Jerks are basically masculine men who can’t or won’t control their natural impulses from testosterone.

    ””””””””

    I wasn’t saying it couldn’t be lucrative. The guy is gonna be the one renting the house they stay in and providing meals though. Just saying it is illegal to pimp but business can pimp womans time.

    Saying much easier to do things the legal way and make money than be on that downward slope of ilegal shit.

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  34. on January 29, 2010 at 3:55 pm gunslingergregi

    Seems like the easiest ways to make money are also illegal but once you save some piles again it becomes easy again. Just have to get past that barrier to entry and your good.

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  35. on January 29, 2010 at 3:57 pm Trouble

    Serious question – are there any white pimps in America?

    Dennis Hof would be considered one. And the most famous (white pimp).

    I think in the American Pimp documentary they show a couple of them.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_pimp

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  36. on January 29, 2010 at 3:57 pm gunslingergregi

    ””””’on January 29, 2010 at 3:38 pm Liverlips
    Serious question – are there any white pimps in America?””””””

    Yea go to vegas.

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  37. on January 29, 2010 at 3:58 pm Willard Libby

    Liverlips

    Serious question – are there any white pimps in America?

    Yes, but their girls don’t tend to work the streets.

    Most White pimps are the ones who run the state and federal governments, corporate America and institutions that work the hell out of other people and then take a large chunk of their money.

    Yet leave the chump enough money to put it back into the economy in order to keep the system running.

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  38. on January 29, 2010 at 3:59 pm ExtraMedium

    “Serious question – are there any white pimps in America?”

    The Bunny Ranch guy (he was in American Pimp), Heidi Fleiss. Black guys run the street game, white guys are in the “escort” game.

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  39. on January 29, 2010 at 4:01 pm Trouble

    I had forgotten about Heidi. She’s “retired” now and looking worse than a street hooker.

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  40. on January 29, 2010 at 4:07 pm Jay Gatsby

    Haven’t read through the entire thread yet, but anyone want to guess what the biggest source of manipulation is? RELIGION. Funny how society never looks at it that way.

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  41. on January 29, 2010 at 4:10 pm Jay Gatsby

    One more thought. Women are the biggest pimps of all. They self-manipulate (through rationalization) when they’re young and pimp themselves out for little or no return. When they’re older (and supposedly wiser), they pimp themselves out for the ring and a beta who can provide financial security as their looks fade.

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  42. on January 29, 2010 at 4:14 pm gunslingergregi

    ”””””””ExtraMedium
    17 yrs for pimping is way too much. Donte Stallworth (a football player) got 30 days (he served 24) for DUI manslaughter!

    The 1st 30mins of “American Pimp” gives great game tips.”””””””’

    Exactly look at female killers spending under a year for killing men. I mean the woman were victims how the fuck is that. Are they equal or not? Are they responsible for their actions or not?

    Who was fucking the guys for money the chicks were not the guy.

    If they wouldn’t have done it he wouldn’t have had a business.

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  43. on January 29, 2010 at 4:14 pm John

    Heh.

    Why take at face value what some faceless impossible to verify blogger tells you is the gospel truth?

    Men – go OUT THERE and be jerks, then see what it gets you, see if it actually gets you girls or not.

    Ive tried it.

    I know the results. They are not what Roissy says.

    My motto is do what works – if women love jerks, be a jerk. If that is the best and fastest way to quality pussy, DO IT.

    But sadly, it doesnt work. I wish it did, but it doesnt. Its easy being a jerk.

    Think of it this way – what is the MINIMUM baseline requirement for a girl being attractive to a man? Having a hot face and a body.

    Okay, but thats the minimum. Once you are able to get girls with hot bodies and faces, you begin to develop what is known as *taste* and start screening girls for things like style, attitude, demeanor, and whether shes a certain type or not.

    A guy who dosnt get many hot girls has no choice, he feels lucky at being accepted by ANY girl with a hot body and face. A guy used to hot pussy begins to develop TASTE. For instance, I ONLY go for hot, sexy, refined, educated, hipster type girls – thats what gets me off. Girls who are hot but vulgar or low class I pass over, because I can AFFORD to.

    Now guess what? Its the same with girls.

    What is the MINIMUM quality that makes a man attractive to a woman? Confidence and assertiveness. But that is the minimum.

    But confidence and assertiveness can be combined with culture and refinement or be crude, crass, and vulgar, it can be unnecessarily rude and hurtful or draw the line at pointlessly hurting someone, at being a confident jerk or being a confident guy who has no desire to pointlessly hurt anyone, including a girl.

    Guess what? Women over 7 – in other words, women with CHOICE in attractive men, are not SATISFIED with merely confident men, they begin to develop TASTE.

    This means these women DONT settle for the tradeoff involved in getting a confident guy who is a jerk – they dont HAVE to, because they have CHOICE. They can GET better guys.

    So if youre hitting on under-7s which most Alphas ignore, you can probably go jerk without any penalties, because these girls are so unused to having Alpha guys hit on them theyll overlook your shortcoming.

    Over 7s are much more complex – they want only the best, and some jerky pimp aint the best. Of course there are SOME exceptions, occasionally you will find some super-hot chic who just LOVES trashy jerky types, just as you will sometimes find confident, desriable men who LOVE fatties or whatever. But it aint the rule.

    Dont believe me? Go out into the field and see for yourself! Be a jerk, translate the Roissy *vibe* into real world behavior and see what it gets you – is it a coincidence that the few pics Roissy posted of girls hes gotten were all attractive but under-7s?

    I love Roissy and hes done heaps for sending the right message out to the masses of men, but the guy has serious limitations as well.

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  44. on January 29, 2010 at 4:15 pm Willard Libby

    And yet this ugly guy is doing OK with Nice Guy Game In July, she told People that she loves “everything” about him. “He’s considerate, he’s thoughtful, he’s smart, he takes care of me. He’s very, very giving.”

    That’s a far cry from the selfish, dismissive and sometimes abusive physician the actress is married to on the hit AMC drama.

    She looks way out of his league and she is more successful and makes more money than him.

    Whatever works.

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  45. on January 29, 2010 at 4:17 pm ozymandias

    @11minutes: Don’t be a moron.

    Of course there’s variation in whether women find assholes attractive. Not every women has the same genetics, childhood environment and social conditioning,* all of which have been proven to affect one’s sexual turn-ons.

    Practically, what women want is someone who’s demonstrated higher value. This might be through physical appearance (anyone who thinks that women aren’t visual hasn’t spend enough time around teenage girls lately). It might be through musical ability, which is why most rock stars can get away with such beta songs. It might be through intelligence (Richard Feynman apparently got tons of pussy). It might be through being an asshole.

    But the key point is that there are very few DHVs that work on all women (probably just confidence, humor and good looks). The average scenester whose panties would drop in a second for Pete Wentz (hi!) would laugh at the idea she was supposed to want to fuck Cashmoney. One of Cashmoney’s whores would think Pete Wentz was a pussy.

    In conclusion: most women are attracted to some degree to assholes. Some women are attracted to assholes a lot. A roughly equal-sized group only wants to be treated well.

    *And before y’all start squawking about social conditioning and childhood environment not having influence on people’s sexuality, need I point out the existence of fetishes? It seems unlikely in the extreme that people are genetically programmed to be turned on by rubber or people with wings.

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  46. on January 29, 2010 at 4:17 pm Madras

    The straw man arguments about how critics will respond are running old and really discredit your blog.

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  47. on January 29, 2010 at 4:19 pm deaddeer

    Hey! I have question for all you Roissyites: Understanding that a lot of women want to be dominated by men, how come dominant uber-bitches arise in predominantly female work environments? Is it because they are frustrated with the power dynamics at home? And no, I am not talking about a bunch of hot women competing for men, but a bunch of batshit boomer ladies who are mostly 2’s and 3’s? Another question: Is it possible for women to game each other in such an enviroment?

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  48. on January 29, 2010 at 4:21 pm DrDoom

    Recruitment 101:

    http://blogs.seattleweekly.com/dailyweekly/2009/10/recruitment_101_by_deshawn_cas.php

    Management 101:

    http://blogs.seattleweekly.com/dailyweekly/2009/07/management_101_by_cash_money_t.php

    Management 201:

    http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2010113369_prostitutiontrial22m.html

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  49. on January 29, 2010 at 4:21 pm Thankless Twat

    Chicks dig assholes alright:

    http://anovelromance.com/2010/01/perennial-wife-thief-2

    Got this through Vancouver CL and was happy to see at least one girl out showing some assertion.

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  50. on January 29, 2010 at 4:25 pm DrDoom

    “The girl who Johnson pimped out made $500 on an average day and $1,000 on a good one, giving [ALL] her earnings to him, he testified.”

    Betas, listen up: Never buy them drinks!

    Pimp or Die.

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  51. on January 29, 2010 at 4:36 pm Firepower

    Willard Libby

    Most White pimps are the ones who run the state and federal governments, corporate America and institutions that work the hell out of other people and then take a large chunk of their money.

    mega qfT

    deaddeer

    how come dominant uber-bitches arise in predominantly female work environments?

    Because outdoorsfolk like hunting game that can’t shoot back.

    Is it possible for women to game each other in such an enviroment?

    Listen to Willard. He will instruct you while I’m away.

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  52. on January 29, 2010 at 4:46 pm Anon

    Female nature is highly incompatible with the smooth running of a civilization.

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  53. on January 29, 2010 at 5:05 pm DefGuy

    If I remember correctly, theGmanifesto made a post of the Dark Triad that might support this as well.

    “Like hypnosis, you can only manipulate those who are manipulable.”

    My favorite line. It takes two to tango.

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  54. on January 29, 2010 at 5:06 pm PatrickH

    There’s a bell curve on this all right, with Deshawn’s women being at the far left end…but it’s the good old IQ curve. Track a woman’s desire to work for the likes of pimp-thing, and you’re tracking her stupidity, lousy impulse control, failure to learn from experience, high time preferences, utter lack of self-awareness, gullibility, and, so often, a history with a failed, abusive or absent father.

    Besides, if there’s a bell curve heading to leftward out to girl-wants-to-be-on-Deshawn’s-string territory, it’s heading the other way too. There’s a right side mirroring the left. Why is that side considered somehow less natural?

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  55. on January 29, 2010 at 5:23 pm Tupac Chopra

    ozy:

    It might be through musical ability,

    It’s not the musical ability, it’s the status that comes with the success.

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  56. on January 29, 2010 at 5:27 pm aoefe

    @Ankouage “I don’t think woman lose the likeness for alpha/asshole ways as they get older, I think some simply prefer a guy who has mastered the levels of it. One who can apply the most subtle lines around her. A more suave “asshole”. That’s one of the few great angles of aging, everything becomes more loaded. ”

    Bang on.

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  57. on January 29, 2010 at 6:10 pm alias clio

    Hmm. I once had a tendency to date men with serious personality flaws – but these flaws were seldom obvious to me in the earliest stages of getting to know them. The flaws began to appear after a few months: there would be a few incidents of mild rudeness or irritability, to me, then later to waiters, old ladies, random strangers, etc. Then they might stand me up once or twice, usually with some plausible excuse, at first. Then…well, you get the picture.

    Meanwhile, their moments of bad behaviour were usually preceded and followed by intensely romantic words and actions, so much so that it was hard to believe that the occasional glimpses of stinginess, petty cruelty, or lying were anything more than the sort of faults everyone has, to some degree.

    Usually the men had forearmed themselves against being rejected for their bad behaviour by telling sob stories about their difficult childhoods – usually true sob stories (later inquiries bore them out), which made me feel mean about questioning them.

    This last tendency, the use of a woman’s pity to disarm her objections to his faults, is a very common ploy among men who are going after your average “nice” middle-class female. (I can’t speak for ghetto-dwellers, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they do the same to at least some of their women.) After all, Ted Bundy pretended to have a broken leg in order to get women to help him.

    So I wouldn’t recommend all-out jerkishness as a ploy to capture women, unless you actually *want* a streetwalker for a girlfriend. Most jerks who are successful with middle-class women do so by the means I described. Expertly-wielded self-pity is one of the keys; so too is being nice to her in beteen occasional bouts of nastiness.

    Mind, I’m not actually recommending such behaviour. I just want to steer naif men away from thinking that sheer brutality and criminality are the keys to a woman’s heart, as Roissy seems to imply.

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  58. on January 29, 2010 at 6:16 pm Riff Dog

    Ooooooh, you just wait until I call the cops and tell them all about this post you wrote! You’ll be sorry! You’ll be soooorrrryyyyy!!!!!

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  59. on January 29, 2010 at 6:16 pm gunslingergregi

    ”””””””DrDoom
    “The girl who Johnson pimped out made $500 on an average day and $1,000 on a good one, giving [ALL] her earnings to him, he testified.”

    Betas, listen up: Never buy them drinks!

    Pimp or Die.”””””’

    Yea imagine if he would have invested the money. Everyone needs a mentor. People saying the woman dumb though. They were making 500 to 1000 a day lol How dumb is that and they got away with it.

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  60. on January 29, 2010 at 6:40 pm Cannon's Canon

    cashmoney is just his government name

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  61. on January 29, 2010 at 6:41 pm John

    It also depends on how you define jerk.

    The idea that anything other than a tiny, infinatesmal group of women who are low class trash or demented fetishists *dig* pimps like the guy in this post is transparently laughable.

    However in todays feminized society, perfectly appropriate masculine behavior like standing up for yourself, treating your needs and desires and wants with self-respect, refusing to be overly sensitive, etc, is often labeled as being a *jerk* when its really just refusing to be a feminized weakling. In that sense, women do indeed want *jerks*.

    But since Roissy very helpfully gave us a clear idea of precisely what HE means by *jerk* when he says chics dig them – to avoid any misunderstanding – by citing this pimp as his example of the kind of jerk chics dig, we can safely say that no, chics dont dig *jerks*.

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  62. on January 29, 2010 at 6:44 pm anony

    @ alias clio’s comments:

    Men can be exploited for their proclivity to provide and protect; women can be exploited for their proclivity to nurture. I’ve seen this close up. The opportunist ghetto-dude can hook the middle-class girl with his pitiful saga of impoverished childhood. She’ll believe she can nurture and rectify him with her unique brand of loving. The hood rat ghetto girls may respond to strong arm manipulation; the guilt-ridden middle-class girl will respond to his need for tender love and nurturing.

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  63. on January 29, 2010 at 7:01 pm Cannon's Canon

    this is definitely a covert HBD/WN post

    just like muhammed ali, they called him CASHES

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  64. on January 29, 2010 at 7:04 pm Markku

    And society’s gotta love that this guy, at the ripe age of 19, already pumped out a couple of spawn while MBA toting 30 year olds examine their stock portfolios to gauge whether now is the right time to have that first autistic, underweight baby.

    I’m beginning to think sterilizing all career criminals might be a good option.

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  65. on January 29, 2010 at 7:12 pm alias clio

    Anony, your comments support my own experience, observation, and reading. I once read a newspaper account of a middle-class young Ottawa woman who was murdered not by her boyfriend, but by a drug-dealer to whom the bf owed money, or something like that. In fact, he killed them both.

    At first glance I imagined that the man must have been some pleasant bond trader with an addiction in his past, but when I turned the page and saw a photo of the woman and her boyfriend together, I was astonished to see a very pretty and wholesome-looking girl with a man who could only be described as a thug. Massive jail-house arms, beefy body, and a shaved, tatooed head. Tattoos are bad enough; a tatooed head is beyond the limit.

    I thought, “what do you want to bet that he won her over with a hard-luck story, or a guilt-trip?” And when I read the rest of the article, it turned out I was right. Her parents said something like, “[X] never believed in judging a book by its cover…she always wanted to give everyone a chance, especially if they had a tough life.” Yes. Liberal guilt, white women’s worst enemy. Asians, black women, and other races don’t appear to suffer much from this affliction – they make mistakes with men for different reasons.

    The security expert Gavin de Becker has written about how many women get attacked, raped, even murdered, because they get into elevators, etc., with men who make them uneasy but ignore their fears because they don’t want to be judgmental or unkind. So we may be stupid, Roissy, but not in the way you make out. The phenomenon you describe here isn’t unusual, but it isn’t common either, and the dynamic doesn’t work quite the way you describe it.

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  66. on January 29, 2010 at 7:26 pm Willard Libby

    Don’t know where to post this but it’s interesting:

    False Rape Claim Over Bad Sex

    JANUARY 28–Two Tennessee women who accused a man of rape have admitted to cops that they had consensually agreed to sex with him in exchange for a pack of cigarettes.

    One woman told investigators that the duo filed a phony police report because they “didn’t enjoy the sex,” according to cops. Jessica Kathleen Alexander, 18, and Tammy Nicole Ortega, 29, were arrested today for filing a false police report.

    Photos in the link. Prepare your eyes and soul.

    By the way Jessica Kathleen Alexander is listed at 5’7″ 290lbs!!!and Tammy Nicole Ortega is listed at 5’9″ 240lbs!!!

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  67. on January 29, 2010 at 7:58 pm gunslingergregi

    ””””””The hood rat ghetto girls may respond to strong arm manipulation; the guilt-ridden middle-class girl will respond to his need for tender love and nurturing.”””

    The hood rat likes weed. The middle class girl likes weed. Sometimes the bitches like crack and they all like to fuck.

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  68. on January 29, 2010 at 8:04 pm gunslingergregi

    People would be extremely surprized at how many chicks like to run trains so I mean why not sell the pussy if you gonna let 10 guys hit it anyway. People think woman innocent little angels it doesn’t fit with the facts of life. Just because most guys here wouldn’t have the balls to ask a chick to fuck 4 of their friends doesn’t mean the next guy who dates your chick and asks, that she would say no.

    I don’t do it since it ain’t really my thing.

    I want chicks to be all mine only.

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  69. on January 29, 2010 at 8:05 pm Faraday

    That manipulation bit reminds me of a great quote by Saul Alinsky: “Life is a corrupting process from the time a child learns to play his mother off against his father in the politics of when to go to bed; he who fears corruption fears life.”

    Manipulation exists whenever and wherever there is something to be sought after. Hell even the beta suckers who get strung up attempt to manipulate people more powerful than themselves by blowing the whistle.

    Anyways, great post.

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  70. on January 29, 2010 at 8:05 pm gunslingergregi

    ”””””’Markku
    And society’s gotta love that this guy, at the ripe age of 19, already pumped out a couple of spawn while MBA toting 30 year olds examine their stock portfolios to gauge whether now is the right time to have that first autistic, underweight baby.

    I’m beginning to think sterilizing all career criminals might be a good option.

    ””””””

    What punishment would the whores get in your fucked up world.

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  71. on January 29, 2010 at 8:09 pm gunslingergregi

    ”””””Jack Burton
    Not objecting to anything in the post, but I think someone ought to mention that a decent society would hang this piece of shit within a week of his arrest.
    ”””””

    And what about the whores? What would a decent society do with them? Allow them to marry you?

    Those chicks obviously could have left any time they wanted. Free will kept them fucking away for money. What did the guy do wrong other than go against a law?
    Who did he hurt?
    Who did he rob?
    What the fuck was his great misdeed for being hung?
    he he he
    But yea Other than make more money than most people who have to do repedative drudgery at work.

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  72. on January 29, 2010 at 8:36 pm 11minutes

    @ ozymandias –

    Of course there’s variation in whether women find assholes attractive. Not every women has the same genetics, childhood environment and social conditioning,* all of which have been proven to affect one’s sexual turn-ons.

    Do we or do we not agree that women (all of them) want the “alphas”? The “alpha male” is defined as the top guy in social hierarchy.
    And at the top there can only be one.

    [Note that I agree with you that being an asshole does not qualify for alpha status, but there is an overlap in the qualities that comes with men of either flavor, and it is those qualities that is attractive. In the end it is all about status.]

    Speed dating studies are rather clear about it: The distribution of attractive men is an exponential decay. The curve resembles the rate of procreation in other primate species and is commonly used to define “alpha”, “beta” and “omega” in biological terms.
    But the bottom line is that women do indeed shoe rather little variation in who they find desirable (despite their claim to the contrary.}

    [Men do not select mates this way. Rather than preferring the very same individual, men show signs of attraction to a great many females that they deem “above their cut off”. The resulting distribution of female desirability is much closer to a Gaussian.]

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  73. on January 29, 2010 at 8:41 pm Tupac Chopra

    In light of all this, I think there’s only one thing that can be said, really:

    (the preceding comment is Cannon-approved)

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  74. on January 29, 2010 at 10:30 pm xsplat

    All my girls have called me Daddy, for at least 7 years now. It’s nonsense to say that “some” girls have a Daddy “complex”. The brains of women have a subroutine hard wired in them to relate to their father, just as they have a subroutine to be a mother. Men have an inbuilt subroutine that gives rise to paternalistic feelings. It’s a helluva great trick to call forth these subroutines and use them to advantage. If you haven’t tried it, find a girl you can feel paternal for – it will amp up the love and attraction AND sexuality big big time. Call her daughter and see the reaction. You will be well rewarded.

    All my girlfriends call me Daddy. At first it seems strange to them, but after a while i AM Daddy.

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  75. on January 29, 2010 at 10:31 pm xsplat

    Oh, and one girl actually came very close to tatooing “Daddy’s Little Girl” across her ass.

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  76. on January 29, 2010 at 10:43 pm xsplat

    Bill

    For the record, it does exist, is in slightly different locations on different women, and I can vouch for it working. But focus on finding the clit first, you apes.

    An article in newscientist many months back claims that only 30 % of women have a G spot, and that it varies in size widely. Also, surprisingly, it is the equivalent of the male g-spot, the prostate. Some women have a prostate.

    So if you are curious about what a female g-spot orgasm is like, you know what to do.

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  77. on January 29, 2010 at 10:59 pm xsplat

    Gun

    Saying much easier to do things the legal way and make money than be on that downward slope of ilegal shit.

    My live in works full time as home maker, secretary, and girl friday for me. She put her sister to work running a small restaurant for me. My other girl runs a small business for me.

    Certainly, put the girls to work.

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  78. on January 29, 2010 at 11:05 pm Fred

    “The straw man arguments about how critics will respond are running old and really discredit your blog.”

    Translation: “I was going to make some of the arguments you preempted with your mockery.”

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  79. on January 29, 2010 at 11:19 pm xsplat

    She looks way out of his league and she is more successful and makes more money than him.

    Whatever works.

    If women have buttons to push, it makes sense that being able to push all of them will enslave her more than pushing just a few of them well. You’ll want to engage as much of her as your mutual chemistry allows. Something I rarely hear discussed by us macho men, is that this also includes a lot of the gentler, more feminine ways. A macho man who can push the tender-romance buttons sometimes will grab a woman more than a macho man who slaps each and every time he fucks.

    Versatility and depth. Use that inner femininity to advantage.

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  80. on January 29, 2010 at 11:32 pm xsplat

    It’s not the musical ability, it’s the status that comes with the success.

    What is musical ability, if not the ability to entrain and arouse emotion in others?

    Musical ability alone, like sexual skills alone, can be the main skill a man relies on. The main wrestlers move. There are few main wrestlers moves a guy can rely on, but musical skill is way up there on the list.

    Poor me that I didn’t get those genes.

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  81. on January 29, 2010 at 11:43 pm Harmonious Jim

    I’m hoping to sign Mr. Deshawn to a book deal to reveal his amazing secrets: call it The Cashmoney Method.

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  82. on January 30, 2010 at 12:00 am Rum

    Re: G Spot

    It all depends on the womans assessment of the guys sexual value. If he is a settled – for dweeb, there will be no G Spot explosions no matter how vigilently he searches and probes. But when the same woman is with her drug dealer side-deal, any part of her body might go off like a hair trigger handgrenade to his rough, indifferent touch.

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  83. on January 30, 2010 at 12:33 am xsplat

    Well, Rum, it’s also a physical organ. Not all women have one. I’m not sure why there is resistance to this knowledge. It’s also true that some g-spots are a bit far up the canal, and not all guys can reach them, or can barely reach them only in certain positions.

    Go for a petite Asian with a huge G-spot who you’ve made hopelessly in love with you, and you can reliably get the vaginal orgasm every time.

    On a side note, my previously non-orgasmic girlfriend now has orgasms throughout the day – even while walking along in the supermarket. She’s a freak. Love her.

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  84. on January 30, 2010 at 1:24 am Rum

    A properly inspired human female can get irresistible waves of orgasms from having her ear-lobes fucked with. But not, most likely, by her husband.

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  85. on January 30, 2010 at 2:06 am xsplat

    Rum, not all women can get orgasms from ear-lobes. Women are widely and wildly different, sexually. While it’s true that some women who thought they were not capable of orgasm can find themselves sexually awakened and coming like crazy, there are also some women with very little sexual ability, full stop.

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  86. on January 30, 2010 at 2:22 am Willard Libby

    Harmonious Jim

    I’m hoping to sign Mr. Deshawn to a book deal to reveal his amazing secrets: call it The Cashmoney Method.

    I’m actually hoping somebody fucks him in the ass in prison and then cuts his throat.

    Pimps are the scum of the world and no real man should imitate their ways.

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  87. on January 30, 2010 at 2:31 am xsplat

    Pimps are the scum of the world and no real man should imitate their ways.

    Don’t imitate their ways? If a female has 100 ways to make her devoted to you, and pimps tend to use 20 of these, how is a man to avoid pressing those same twenty buttons? Just because pimps know of the 20 buttons, doesn’t make such carnal knowledge bad. You don’t imitate a pimp, you learn of the buttons.

    For instance I had thought I had invented the whole Daddy’s Little Girl game. Year after year I keep hearing of other guys using that technique. It’s like “inventing” the wheel. The wheel is just there. You discover it. Not behaving like a pimp is immoral, because you then open up the door to a man who will, and may treat the girl worse than you would.

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  88. on January 30, 2010 at 2:58 am charvey

    “Because women want to submit to a powerful man.”

    Beautiful truth.

    It took me a long time to understand this and begin shedding a lifetime of beta-training jammed down my throat by American culture. Once I learned this truth I was able to embrace my inner caveman. I’m a helluva lot happier. Oh, and I get laid a lot more.

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  89. on January 30, 2010 at 3:44 am Cannon's Canon

    oh pac… i have missed you here… let’s set up a few fake email accounts so that we may coordinate and eventually meet up in person and suck each others’ cocks, no homo…

    piece of trivia: i once played the david stern of that house-partying hemisphere and declared a draft. that’s right: i elected myself chairman and assigned girls like nba draft picks to be hooked up with… not because of “rape”, but because any of my friends, age 20ish, could obviously pull any girl there.

    my night ended when “jill” jumped onto my outstretched position on a pool chair and kissed me with purpose. why did she do this? no idea, but in my beta days, i longed to find out what her last name was, as i thought she could be a quality candidate to receive my humor, intelligence, and gargantuan penis… you know, based on her impulsive cock-seizing…

    “jill” was the fourth overall draft pick, but i had drafted first! this was bullshit, but i was talking to eli manning’s agent… i held no cards! can’t front: i left the house and never wound up banging this girl.

    this story has meant nothing. just compare it to the fourth or fifth weekend in a row you come back home to a cold pillow and no girl. are you so discerning as i was at age 20? am i? must we be? should we be?

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  90. on January 30, 2010 at 4:31 am anon

    I’m surprised nobody has picked apart anything posted by John. Personally I think he really hits it all on the nose.

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  91. on January 30, 2010 at 4:47 am Me again

    anony wrote:

    “Manipulation– it exists. Mother-in-laws manipulate their kids’ families. Overbearing bosses manipulate their reports. Bossy kids manipulate others. No surprise that extremist men can manipulate weak girls from the ghetto, who’ve had no experience with men as fathers. Don’t we all subconsciously want to submit to a higher power? When men are inexperienced and naive, don’t they also submit to the more powerful men?”

    So succinct and true. Just thinking about this, not long after watching the 20/20 interview with John Edwards’ personal assistant/lackey, Andrew Young, who even ruined his own reputation by taking paternity responsibility for Rielle Hunter’s love child.

    And — don’t we all subconsciously want to submit to a higher power, named G-O-D, in some familiar times?

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  92. on January 30, 2010 at 4:51 am Cannon's Canon

    pac:

    also, my boy (got wifed up, moved to charlotte for back office work, hates his life, no, like REALLY hates his life, like suicide type shit, except he still believes in God, woo WOO!)

    oh yeah, so anyway, my boy texts me to read this

    http://www.zerohedge.com/article/michael-lewis-sends-memo-lloyd-blankfein-pure-unadulterated-comic-genius-ensues

    i mean, he is working in the veritable BELLY OF THE BEAST! no cannibo! some cannibo!

    but um yeah, bloomberg pulled it after about two hours. suck on that, morts.

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  93. on January 30, 2010 at 4:59 am xsplat

    And — don’t we all subconsciously want to submit to a higher power, named G-O-D, in some familiar times?

    Not me. I’ve gamed even God. He’s my little bitch now.

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  94. on January 30, 2010 at 5:02 am Cannon's Canon

    hey dumbass troll bitch!

    yes, i have inferred that you are a woman

    but really, tell me what else you have read about john edwards

    while shopping for supermarket groceries

    you homely fatso

    my penis remains flaccid, blame my genetics

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  95. on January 30, 2010 at 5:48 am Caligula

    I recommend the books by Iceberg Slim. Gives great insight into where a lot of game related terms come from too.

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  96. on January 30, 2010 at 5:57 am ephebophile

    My Father was a pimp, may he rest in peace.
    His first wife was a whore, who cleaned her sinuses with a nickle-plated .357.
    True Story.
    They had one kid, my half-sister.

    My dad was fucking awesome, but my sister is ape-fking nuts. My grandfather was a pimp too. He ruled like a F-n T-rex in his time.

    Both equipped me for the tough, cruel and viciously unfair world in which we live.

    You eat or you get eaten. End of the story. Morality is for the survivors to play with, & No one gets out of life… Alive.

    Now, Willard Libby, you said:

    “I’m actually hoping somebody fucks him in the ass in prison and then cuts his throat.

    Pimps are the scum of the world and no real man should imitate their ways.”

    And that sir, almost hurts, cause your a moron, and I feel bad for you.

    No man deserves an assrape’n bad prison romance. I don’t care how evil he is. Adolph, Mao, Pol, Stalin.

    Truth be told,
    no one should put his dick in another man’s anus. Its sick & degenerate. And Will… for you to wish that upon another man, speaks chapters on where you stand.

    Your worldview supports degeneracy. Get help.

    To all the pimps out there… Your gonna burn in hell, but at least you will be well paid.

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  97. on January 30, 2010 at 6:09 am Fleshy Desires

    So in effect, is it better to have a female fear you rather than love you, as Machiavelli prescribed?

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  98. on January 30, 2010 at 7:48 am MurrayHill

    Absolutely brilliant. Roissy you kick ass. I have so many betas qualities still stuck in my head. I need to get them out and monitor to make sure they stay out!!!

    Thanks brother.

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  99. on January 30, 2010 at 9:19 am gunslingergregi

    ”””””Ya but if you put 2 or more morts in some situation that has enough inaduecies of information or money or whatever. You can always get them to focus the blame on whats right in front of them instead of whats far off and really causing it.
    ””””””

    From cannon’s link.

    Truth like child support and blaming woman rather than blaming the woman and the system when you go out hard.

    @Cannon

    Yea don’t do it.

    no homo lol

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  100. on January 30, 2010 at 9:25 am gunslingergregi

    ””””’And — don’t we all subconsciously want to submit to a higher power, named G-O-D, in some familiar times?”””””’

    At the times I really thought I was about to die god was not a thought. Wierd right.

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  101. on January 30, 2010 at 9:46 am anoukange

    John continues to be my hero. Dude gets it.

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  102. on January 30, 2010 at 11:05 am Gil

    Here’s a quality article exposing that fact that ‘nice guys’ aren’t nice guys just losers and dickheads:

    http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Nice_Guys

    Some choice quotes:

    “What women say they want until they realize that a guy who just nods to everything they say in an attempt to get laid is just as bad as a jerk, except more boring.”

    “The female equivalent of the nice guy is the self-described thoughtful, natural-looking [fat] girl who frets that men only want to date blond bimbos with big breasts. Logic would dictate that nice guys and nice girls ought to date each other, but their insistence on chasing people out of their league sets them up for nonstop heartbreak. ”

    “Women say they want nice guys. Women know f***-all. Grow some balls and give her a slap. This is not sexist – battered wives never leave their husbands even though there are women’s shelters all over the place.”

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  103. on January 30, 2010 at 12:26 pm gunslingergregi

    Moral to story male pimp 17 years female pimp=

    21 months in celebrity big brother house lol

    ””””Gossip
    Celebrity Big Brother: Heidi Fleiss talks about her time in prison
    Wednesday,6 January | No Comments
    Tell Your Friends About This Article
    By mirror.co.uk – Home – Celebs
    The latest gossip and news written in the mirror.co.uk – Home – Celebs reports…

    Heidi Fleiss today opened up about her time behind bars, as she served her time in the Celebrity Big Brother house. The former Hollywood madam, who served 21 months of a 37 month sentence for tax evasion in connection with running a prostitution ring, was quizzed by fellow housemate Stephanie Beacham about her experience. ”””””””””

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  104. on January 30, 2010 at 2:18 pm Cannon's Canon

    wow, i was fucking wacked last night

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  105. on January 30, 2010 at 2:43 pm mark

    When I was a kid I hung out in Berkeley CA and happened upon a brothel advertised as a clothing shop. Run by a biggy mandingo. Sneered at me “ain’t you never seen naked women before?” Of course all the naked women were white girls, pretty, maybe 20 years old tops.
    The guy had a gun in his pants pocket.
    Left me with the impression, which has not left me, that all pimps are essentially repressed murderers.
    Kill ’em all.

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  106. on January 30, 2010 at 2:51 pm Cliff Arroyo

    “all pimps are essentially repressed murderers.”

    I’d say they’re more modern slaveholders more than anything else. One of the reasons their slaves don’t leave is the very real fear against violent reprisal if they can’t escape well enough (and they dont have the resources, mental or material, to do a good job of that).

    No problem with the kill ’em all part. I don’t have anything against whores, but the pimps don’t add any value to the process except add a big dose of misery and exploitation.

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  107. on January 30, 2010 at 3:30 pm Bill Arndt

    The two pimps rae Deshawn and his brother,Shawn. Obviously niggers.

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  108. on January 30, 2010 at 4:20 pm gunslingergregi

    Yea remember guns and roses and how it was considered evil or what not. People wearing the shirts and shit with evil looking crap on it but when you actually listen to the music it is pretty tame. Well the black kids be listening to bitches ain’t shit but ho’s and tricks gets em ready to deal with the new empowered young white girls he he he

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  109. on January 30, 2010 at 7:42 pm Casper

    Roissy does it again. You should be making money off of the literary genius you possess. Great fucking article, mate.

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  110. on January 30, 2010 at 7:47 pm MUAHAHAHA

    wow, i was fucking wacked last night

    Try banging her sober next time, it ain’t that bad either.

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  111. on January 30, 2010 at 8:42 pm joel

    I think that because some girls hang onto abusive situations is not a reason to assume all women would do that or would like to try it. I think those girls were just damaged goods.

    If you read about say, early Christianity, you will read accounts of amazing self denial by early Christians. My favorites were that guys who used to live on elevated platforms. I forget what they called them.

    Anyhoo, I wouldn’t say all men wanted to find God the hard way just because some wackos did, and still do.

    These remarks in no way lessen the importance of Roissy’s observation: Girls are just not what you imagine them to be. You’ve been warned.

    BTW, if you are getting really horny and hardup, just hire some sex. It takes off the edge, and gives you a much better perspective on the whole boy-girl situation. After a while, you might wonder why you even wasted your time chasing amateurs. They warm you about the dangers of V.D. Those dangers pale in comparison to the dangers of matrimony.

    Just sayin’

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  112. on January 30, 2010 at 9:03 pm cousincozen

    “And society’s gotta love that this guy, at the ripe age of 19, already pumped out a couple of spawn while MBA toting 30 year olds examine their stock portfolios to gauge whether now is the right time to have that first autistic, underweight baby.”

    Straight outta Idiocracy!

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  113. on January 30, 2010 at 10:22 pm Breeze

    “gunslingergregi

    ”””””Jack Burton
    Not objecting to anything in the post, but I think someone ought to mention that a decent society would hang this piece of shit within a week of his arrest.
    ”””””

    And what about the whores? What would a decent society do with them? Allow them to marry you?

    Those chicks obviously could have left any time they wanted. Free will kept them fucking away for money. What did the guy do wrong other than go against a law?
    Who did he hurt?
    Who did he rob?
    What the fuck was his great misdeed for being hung?
    he he he
    But yea Other than make more money than most people who have to do repedative drudgery at work.”

    “““““““““““““““““““““

    The best way to combat this problem is to legalise prostitution and make it safe and discrete for all parties involved.

    What people like Jack Burton really object to though is not prostitution itself but the thought that people like this Deshawn tool have had more pussy than Jack Burton will ever get.

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  114. on January 30, 2010 at 11:09 pm Fresh

    Offtopic:

    A beta at 3.

    http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1889565

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  115. on January 30, 2010 at 11:54 pm chic noir

    Willard Pimps are the scum of the world and no real man should imitate their ways.

    Agreed
    You can be an insufferable troll at times but sometimes you say just the right thing.

    Willard I’m actually hoping somebody fucks him in the ass in prison and then cuts his throat.

    Damn, whose fantasy is this. I read some much emotion and passion behind(no pun) your words. That reads like something from Butt magazine or a pilot for a show on the LOGO network.

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  116. on January 31, 2010 at 12:45 am she beast

    chicks dig jerks? No. Chicks fuck jerks, get burned by jerks, and hate jerks. End of story. Substitute guys for chicks. and bitches for jerks and you get the same story. In other words, people can be really stupid.

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  117. on January 31, 2010 at 1:37 am Jim

    “Do I need to put that addendum after every fucking sentence I write, or are you capable of discerning the all too obvious subtext?”

    No, but because of certain elements of the readership it probably needed saying this once. Now let us never speak of it again.

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  118. on January 31, 2010 at 1:53 am JLaw45

    @she beast:
    “chicks dig jerks? No. Chicks fuck jerks, get burned by jerks, and hate jerks. End of story. Substitute guys for chicks. and bitches for jerks and you get the same story. In other words, people can be really stupid.”

    This sounds like a subtle attempt to characterize male and female sexuality as, essentially, the same when in fact this is not the case.

    This has been repeated ad nauseum above, but to say it again females have a strong attraction to a number of qualities(assertion, confidence, dominance, etc-you know the list, I’m sure) the same way men tend to be attracted to big tits, flat stomachs and round posteriors. It is an immutable fact of human sexuality.

    Women can get these qualities from many types of men. Some of these men are CEO’s. Some are talented athletes. Some are powerful politicians. Some are common criminals, like the fellow subject to this story.

    People tend to oversimplify this phenomenon and say simply that “chicks dig jerks”. In a way, they kind of do-average “jerks”(or guys who mimic their qualities despite not actually being “jerks”), common criminals and other similar types are often confident, dominant and assertive.
    This is why such types are almost never short of female company(while the nice, reliable, but boring “nice guy” is usually alone).
    However, in reality, it is the aforementioned qualities that tend to attract females strongly. Its not simply that chicks dig jerks for the sake of digging jerks, but that jerks tend to have these qualities in abundance.

    Male attraction and female attraction operate very differently. Men are turned on by different things and in different ways than are women. The phenomenon I described above(which Roissy described far better than I really could) does not operate in the reverse for men. You cannot carry out the word replacement exercise you’re suggesting and still arrive at an accurate conclusion.

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  119. on January 31, 2010 at 2:20 am Tupac Chopra

    Cannon:

    let’s set up a few fake email accounts so that we may coordinate and eventually meet up in person and suck each others’ cocks, no homo…

    I’ll refrain from judgement until GNP’s Are For Apes returns from the dead and gives us his blessing.

    Oh GNPAFA oh GNFPA, wherefore art thou?

    “jill” was the fourth overall draft pick, but i had drafted first! this was bullshit, but i was talking to eli manning’s agent… i held no cards! can’t front: i left the house and never wound up banging this girl.

    this story has meant nothing.

    I’ll take the liberty of interpreting this to mean you are advocating Settling Game, aka Chubby Game, aka Plain Jane Game, aka Mud Turtle Game.

    I’ve already done my time. It only leaves you with psychic indigestion.

    JUST SAY NO

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  120. on January 31, 2010 at 2:39 am Tupac Chopra

    xsplat:

    “It’s not the musical ability, it’s the status that comes with the success.”

    What is musical ability, if not the ability to entrain and arouse emotion in others?

    Musical ability alone, like sexual skills alone, can be the main skill a man relies on. The main wrestlers move. There are few main wrestlers moves a guy can rely on, but musical skill is way up there on the list.

    There once was a time when musical ability alone was sufficient cause for signalling superior genetics. The strumming of a lute, the crooning of a singer, etc.

    Modern advances in health, diet, and technological progress has all but obliterated musical talent *alone* as a vag moisturizer. Every Tom, Dick and Harry nowadays has the means to quickly and effectively educate himself on the basics and become fairly proficient on his chosen instrument. Do you realize how many pimpy-faced guitarslingers populate the hollow halls of suburbia? Nowadays the kids have the internet, videos, tabs-on-demand, the latest gizmos and gear. Being the Guitar Guy no longer has the social cachet it once had. I’m sure things are different in third-world countries, but in major cities of the U.S., the forecast is bleak.

    Musical ability at BEST can give a dude an In with lonely homely chicks looking for a provider-borefriend. Yeah, it can do that. But the local greasy DJ with no actual musical skills will smoke him in seconds flat. Ask me how I know.

    Status and popularity trump talent. So it is written, so it shall be done.

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  121. on January 31, 2010 at 3:08 am xsplat

    “Status and popularity trump talent. So it is written, so it shall be done.”

    Well said. As i’m both talentless and missing a tendon in the left hand, I fail as a guitar wielding lothario. My only excuse for sucking at the piano is that I have no musical talent and little drive. And although I sing enthusiastically in the shower, out in public the voice pains ears. So I have no first hand experience on how attractive musical ability is.

    A buddy of mine is wicked on the sax. Wicked enough that he can pack his sax and travel around France, guaranteed proceeds by picking up gigs along the way. Needless to say, his skills are a fishing trawler compared to my fly fishing hook. The guy wails.

    I recall being at a bar in Chiang Mai on talent night, and one guy put on a great one man show, just him and his guitar. I chatted up his hot “girlfriend” and quickly got a go ahead to take her travelling. So being the dancing monkey isn’t going to keep the girl. Point is, being fit enough to be on stage counts for a lot, especially for initial attraction. It’s not just the stage, not just the social proof. It’s a triangle of skills, display, and social proof.

    As a man with no musical talent, I am forced to focus on talents that I do excell at. You play to your strenghts.

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  122. on January 31, 2010 at 4:59 am Markku

    “And society’s gotta love that this guy, at the ripe age of 19, already pumped out a couple of spawn while MBA toting 30 year olds examine their stock portfolios to gauge whether now is the right time to have that first autistic, underweight baby.”

    Straight outta Idiocracy!

    Exactly what I had in mind.

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  123. on January 31, 2010 at 6:10 am Linkage is Good for You: Leaner, Meaner Edition | In Mala Fide

    […] Roissy – “Are Pickup Artists Wrong About the Benefits of Smiling?“, “Chicks Dig Jerks: A Series” […]

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  124. on January 31, 2010 at 7:16 am Cannon's Canon

    pro wrestlers are my role models

    i have been debating the greatest entrance theme of all time tonight, with myself

    – razor ramon
    – main event mafia
    – kurt angle (you suck)
    – nWo
    – yoshi tatsu (not really, but sort of)
    – christian cage, in tna (the ‘everclear’ rip)
    – stone cold steve austin, of course

    annnnnnnd

    – gangrel.. the brood theme

    gangrel could have crushed so much pussy back in the day, like five years ago. anyway, holler at a baller

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  125. on January 31, 2010 at 7:31 am mgtow

    @she beast
    chicks dig jerks? No. Chicks fuck jerks, get burned by jerks, and hate jerks. End of story. Substitute guys for chicks. and bitches for jerks and you get the same story. In other words, people can be really stupid.
    ————————————————————————–

    Nope.

    Jerks fuck chicks(order is important: giver-receiver, penetrator-penetratee). Chicks get burnt by jerks, they SAY they hate jerks but gina tingles do not lie.

    Reverse the sexes and things are the same? Nope. Unless of course, you believe the gender equality bullshit.

    Guys get burnt by chicks? Maybe. Some learn the hard way, some learn by example, others just get enlightened by themselves.

    What is the key lesson to learn? When fraternizing with women, you want to be the unavailable jerk. You must unlearn your chivalry, your mangina tendencies. The reason is simply because sex is all you want from women, and sex is all women are good for. Therefore you have to do it _efficiently_ i.e game.

    To paraphrase Tom Leykis, who replied to a bitch who accused him of being a misogynist: “I don’t hate women, there’s no better place to stick your penis into.”

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  126. on January 31, 2010 at 9:27 am Cannon's Canon

    this is what ‘whiskey’ jerks off to… jew porn… love you though whiskey

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  127. on January 31, 2010 at 9:53 am Cannon's Canon

    dude… whiskey… i’ve been watching “homicide: life on the street”… it is really not doing it for me

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  128. on January 31, 2010 at 10:31 am I Beta

    Remembered this column from my college days – not great insight into the pimp culture, but several useful name drops as a start point:

    http://www.columbiaspectator.com/2002/07/11/undercover-brother

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  129. on January 31, 2010 at 11:11 am Cannon's Canon

    Undercover Brother

    By Eric Chen

    hahahahahaha HBD in the building!

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  130. on January 31, 2010 at 1:02 pm Jack

    I’m in law school and this girl who lives down the hall who I want to bang was having a party with her roommates last night. She ended up hooking up with some guy (probably fucked him). Everyone saw her getting cozy with this guy, and she knows this. How should I treat her? On the one hand, I lost some respect for the bitch; on the other hand, hot girls know other hot girls…

    Should I just dial up asshole game?

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  131. on January 31, 2010 at 1:05 pm Firepower

    You’re in Law School

    You’re an asshole
    already

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  132. on January 31, 2010 at 6:27 pm The_King

    @Gun

    Every occupation has its winners and losers. Guys who run cartels will make close to fortune 500 CEOs. They also bang hotter women… they aren’t restricted by social expectations to have a ball cutting frumpy wife.

    @Firepower

    Since when was being an ahole a bad thing? Lawyers, Doctors and Managers are usually aholes because they should be. I rather have an ahole than an insecure nice guy. It’s all confidence.

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  133. on January 31, 2010 at 6:30 pm Gil

    How is it that ‘nice guys’ are honourable for pining over unobtainable beautiful women whereas even the ‘nice guys’ can understand why a fat gal is delusional for pretending she’s deserving of a handsome boyfriend just because she’s a breathing female member of the human race?

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  134. on January 31, 2010 at 7:02 pm gunslingergregi

    ”””””The_King
    @Gun

    Every occupation has its winners and losers. Guys who run cartels will make close to fortune 500 CEOs. They also bang hotter women… they aren’t restricted by social expectations to have a ball cutting frumpy wife.
    ””””’

    Yea but got to be easier to make money then doing 17 years after working two. Sure it probably is exciting with the element of danger but is it worth spending years in jail.

    http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0510-22.htm

    pay jumps by 52 percent lol for ceos of fortune 500

    average pay little over ten million but skeyed quite a bit by the ones making a hundred.

    So get yourself a pizza hut making 5k a day and you can make a 5th of that with less headaches plus you don’t need to be a special snowflake ceo or crime boss nor afflicted with too much societal expectation. Get 5 and now your a big time hero and can run around the world undetected by the media lol

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  135. on January 31, 2010 at 7:11 pm gunslingergregi

    Have you seen the who wants to date a millionaire show?
    Just get to a mil and you can have bitches lined up for you to “date” and it is condoned as ok. he he he

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  136. on January 31, 2010 at 7:13 pm The_King

    @Gun

    Interesting but no thanks I rather be the CEO, hot shot plastic surgeon or ahole lawyer. Just saying a lot of guys can make a good living taking up illegal occupations.

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  137. on January 31, 2010 at 8:02 pm gunslingergregi

    Yea I wanted to beat the stock market and be cool but rather than bang my head against the wall I am just going for the sure thing.

    You can be the ceo just you are ceo of your own shit and you can’t be fired and don’t have to worry bout making connections he he he

    But yea the top guys in any field will probably make good money but to have good money coming in you don’t have to be the top guy.

    So 500 people in the top 500 companies in the us making 5 times more than the guy who owns that pizza hut. Seems kind of like it is pretty weak sauce to me as far as money goes and responsibility goes. Seems like they underpaid with a 500 out of 365 million chance of winning when a person making minimum wage can save enough to make a fifth as much as they make.

    Although being one of them would prob give some personal satisfaction.

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  138. on January 31, 2010 at 9:56 pm she beast

    JLaw45

    You cannot carry out the word replacement exercise you’re suggesting and still arrive at an accurate conclusion.

    You can’t say guys dig bitches, fuck bitches, get burned by bitches and hate bitches? I dunno! It happens all the time as far as I can see. I didn’t say jerks dig bitches, fuck bitches, and get burned by bitches, because jerks will do anything to get laid and as long as they get laid, they really don’t give a fuck about the consequences of fucking bitches. The more the merrier.

    All I’m saying is that women and men-guys and chicks-if led exclusively by rising hormones quite often get burned by jerks and bitches. That’s not so hard to get; is it?

    mgtow

    Chicks get burnt by jerks, they SAY they hate jerks but gina tingles do not lie.

    Gina tingles lie plenty and love is not what you’re referring to unless the definition has changed.

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  139. on January 31, 2010 at 11:32 pm Brody

    +1 on comment numero uno

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  140. on February 1, 2010 at 12:00 am lovelysexybeauty

    Good post… I was about to disagree with some of the overarching conclusions until the caveats.

    Yes, there is a bellcurve in women… and yes, it is influenced by a variety of factors including life experience, cultural conditioning, and other things.

    11 minutes pointed out the famous NY Times article about research that women are often unaware of what turns them on (physical-mental disconnect). However, I might disagree that this feeling of being “in heat” will be enough to make her subconsciously do certain things. I think her conscious mind can play a bigger role unless other cues in the environment can let that ol’ hamster wheel do its work…

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  141. on February 1, 2010 at 12:07 am lovelysexybeauty

    Also, everyone talking about John’s comment… he was maybe a little harsh on Roissy (I think the issue is more of people who don’t grasp the nuances). But great point that the truth is the individual experiences of people who apply the advice.

    Some guys will take the guidance too literally, not realizing (as many have pointed) there needs to be jerkiness BALANCED with more “Beta” qualities. “Hot and you’re cold…” like Katy Perry sang.” Guys who don’t pick up this nuance will be the weirdos who get mixed results.

    Also great points made (even a “situational” 7+ girl can understand these):

    What is the MINIMUM quality that makes a man attractive to a woman? Confidence and assertiveness. But that is the minimum.
    …
    Women over 7 – in other words, women with CHOICE in attractive men, are not SATISFIED with merely confident men, they begin to develop TASTE.

    This means these women DONT settle for the tradeoff involved in getting a confident guy who is a jerk – they dont HAVE to, because they have CHOICE. They can GET better guys.

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  142. on February 1, 2010 at 2:41 am gunslingergregi

    ””””’This means these women DONT settle for the tradeoff involved in getting a confident guy who is a jerk – they dont HAVE to, because they have CHOICE. They can GET better guys.””””””

    Well that is the problem with woman getting offers from millionaires she always thinks there will be a better offer or shes not sure shes really in love and she wants to be with a guy she really loves so one day she is 37 and wondering what happened.

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  143. on February 1, 2010 at 3:25 am Jack

    To the other Jack – Nothing wrong with the woman for choosing someone else over you – He made the move and you did not – Move faster next time and, yes, ask her to introduce you to other hot women.

    Guys: The use of the word “Human Trafficking” in this conviction is very, very dangerous because that is the kind of lingo that represents a Christian-Feminist alliance against males having any fun at all…they used this talk to get the IMBRA law passed making it illegal to introduce American men to foreign women without background checks on the men and a lot of paperwork signed by the women at the moment the man wants to meet (which results in the two not meeting at all if the man happens to be in a foreign town for only a day or only a week).

    Note that the jury failed to find that the women did anything against their will!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    And they were still called victims!!

    You cannot allow the Republican Party to call voluntary prostitutes victims at all costs.

    At least this article did not show hatred for men who would be customers.

    About the Alpha Male side, I have always advocated that a man have about 4 gfs simultaneously. If anything, this helps him with each woman (half of whom may not know about the others) because they sense he has the power to walk away and still do well (which he can).

    So this guy was only acting normally in that sense. He accumulated a harem, which every guy should do at least by using separate cities as a barrier between them.

    He was also just following the rule of being the king of a woman’s expected domain. In my case, I go for women whose domain is “Intellectual College Student”. I go for the women with glasses who have excellent bodies underneath the intellectual exterior. To win there, I need to be very intellectual and very well read. But it works.

    This guy learned the lingo and behavior to be perceived as a leader in the kind of domain these young women perceived to be their own.

    But I saw no photos of them. I doubt they are anywhere near as attractive as my gfs. I also think that, if they are attractive, they are the type that will not be attractive when they are 22. They likely know they blossomed early and want to make hay while the sun shines. I really doubt they will be able to do well with men over the age of 22.

    Plus, he failed the Alpha Male test by allowing himself to be sent to prison to be the gf of Bubba. Why isn’t the pimp community smart enough to be trying to get MRA and PUA support online? They should be using our arguments and fighting the feminists with their lawyers and asking the Republicans why they are allied with Marxist feminists…something they are not doing at all…and going to jail for a long time because they are not.

    The women in this case were as guilty as the pimps.

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  144. on February 1, 2010 at 10:20 am ATC

    Does having a father around help daughters and hurt sons?

    Roosh is sad that his parents divorced, but look at his notch count.

    If Dad sets an example of matrimonial obligation, if he sticks around while he is mercilessly nagged, then his son absorbs the idea of approaching relationships with foolish self-sacrifice and altruism.

    When 90 percent of men are also approaching relationships this way, like they did in Dad’s day, you can still hope to pass on your genes with someone worthwhile and help sustain a beneficial community.

    When that number drops to 60 percent, you must adapt or die.

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  145. on February 1, 2010 at 10:32 am Anonymouses Anonymous

    It’s hard to argue against the evidence, and the logic coming from it, but somewhere, it just doesn’t feel right.

    First, you are talking about 15 year old girls. Girls who have trouble at home and believe a guy who says he will make the troubles go away. They go along with his requests, believing he will do as he promised. Only he never delivers, but sends them down a rat hole of promises that will be fulfilled if they do one more thing, which opens another need/promise that drags them further down.

    Perhaps the biggest issue I have is that pimping is slavery with a focused output. Instead of cotton, the product is sex.

    This isn’t asserting manliness over womanhood. This is the trafficking of humanity for money.

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  146. on February 1, 2010 at 12:37 pm Gary Heinick

    Am I the only one hear who found this story really hot arousing? I love stories of girls forced into sex slavery. One girl was kept in a dog cage and made to eat dog biscuits. Yeah, I’m into bdsm.

    No not stupid queer black leather and whips, but raw male dominance and female humiliation and debasement. The great thing about Roissy is he convey that same raw dominance and humiliation, without anything illegal (most of the time). Well Roissy himself is named after Story of O, so he knows what I mean.

    I’m a sadist, in the sense of Marquis De Sade. Is sadism so wrong for arousal? Isn’t that what women are biologically designed to submit to, from the time that they were tribal-rape slaves. And the most pleasing slaves were the ones who past on their genes.

    Is anyone else here into “ravishing” fantasies? Theres nothing wrong with it since we know most girls have them.

    Anyone ever read any fansadox comics?

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  147. on February 1, 2010 at 6:47 pm ATC

    Roissy said:
    “apply a broad enough definition and you indict any goal-oriented communication as ‘manipulation’.”

    Not so fast. Manipulation occurs when you don’t care whether the other person will benefit from what you are trying to get them to do.

    If you recommend a movie to a buddy, you do care whether he has a good time.

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  148. on February 1, 2010 at 11:40 pm Master Dogen

    Oh shit. I’m traveling and just saw this. Glad you handled it, roissy. Really good write-up.

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  149. on February 2, 2010 at 2:47 am gunslingergregi

    ”””””44 year old bilogy teacher and former girls basketball coach at Norman North High School, in Norman, Oklahoma, Vicky Lewallen, was arrested on 2 counts of forcible sodomy and two counts of rape by instrumentation of a 16-year-old female student.

    It is alleged that Lewallen took the girl home during school lunch breaks where they continued a sexual relationship. It is also reported that the two had sex during school hours on school property.

    Expect this one to drag on for a while. Lewallen was arrested in June 2007, and has just now been arraigned, in May 2008.

    Update — 03/06/2009

    Vicky Lewallen has been sentenced to 2 years in prison, followed by 8 years of probation. Lewallen entered a blind plea, which is a plea which has no agreement between the prosecution and defendant, and leaves sentencing at the judges complete discretion. Lewallen faced a maximum of 20 years in prison.

    Following her release from prison, Lewallen will not be allowed to teach ever again, and will be required to register as a sex offender.
    ””””””””””””

    2 years in prison how about that.

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  150. on February 2, 2010 at 12:17 pm Anonymouses Anonymous

    ATC, manipulation is to make someone do something. It does not matter whether it is for a benefit. Doctors manipulate scalples to do surgery. It does not benefit the scalple to cut flesh. It benefits the patient, though…hopefully.

    Manipulation is the wrong word to use when talking about the pimp and like so many words in the English language, is taken out of context so much it loses its original clear menaning. He wasn’t manipulating her. He was enslaving her. Manipulation would require he make her arms move exactly as he wanted. He would need to hold her hand and force it to move as he wanted.

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  151. on February 2, 2010 at 9:07 pm de la qroue

    My experience with girls who claim they “wouldn’t fall for the jerk” is this: they would.

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  152. on February 2, 2010 at 9:22 pm gunslingergregi

    He was employing her or she would have left.

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  153. on February 11, 2010 at 3:38 pm Windy Wilson

    “orgasms even while walking along in the supermarket.”
    Which aisle?

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  154. on March 17, 2010 at 8:58 am White Knights – don’t save her « Misadventures of Vincent Ignatius

    […] She fucks jerks because those are the guys she’s attracted to.  Who the hell are you to try to change that?  You can’t change it, and you’re not an asshole, so all you’re doing is feeding her ego.   Stop!  You deserve better than her, and she definitely doesn’t deserve you.  Move on.  She’s actually happier getting used by assholes than she would be living in a nice house with you. She despises you for being nice to her.  She loves the asshole for treating her how she deserves to be treated. White knights always say shit like “I just want her to be happy.”  Well, let her be happy then.  But don’t sacrifice your happiness for her. How a slut sees a white knight […]

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  155. on June 13, 2010 at 8:41 pm Victor

    Cashmoney? Really? Gawddamn…… I weep for black people.

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  156. on March 25, 2011 at 2:47 am Sparker

    I suspect teen angst may be a possible explanation for why the tattooed girl defended Cashmoney while going against her own parents. Wanting to be financially independent and off the clutches of parents is an important need that teens feel during the rebellious phase. A girl tingling for an alpha pimp would hardly find prostituting for his sake a very enticing prospect. Wouldn’t desire for money and financial independence better explain the whole situation?

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