Most horny women will never come right out and ask for sex from their lovers. You will not often hear “Let’s fuck NOW!” or “Do you want to bang?” from your girlfriend, or from many women you are dating throughout your lifetime. A few raunchy broads of questionable virtue will take the initiative dominatrix-style, and you will be pleased by their efforts, but all in all most normal men prefer the coyness of women who relinquish themselves to sex instead of demand it. Truth is, ladies, we find it adorable.
A woman’s need to feel physically desired is stronger than her need for food and shelter on the Vajlovian hierarchy of values. Thus, women tend to avoid outright asking for sex, even when explosively horny, because it sidesteps entirely their prime directive to passively arouse the male to action. But oh how their tingles itch for relief! And so women have devised a complicated system of sexual hints and innuendo that would make a French aristocrat blush with envy. I continue coming across numerous examples of just such scandalous whisperings from the women I meet in my life.
- The Human Meow. This is where a woman will make cute animal noises, similar to bird chirps or meows, to indicate her desire for sex. They will often sound like “Mmm? MmmMMMmmm?” with upturned eyebrows, as if waiting for you to clue in. Naturally, all systems women use to communicate their wish for sex must adhere to the first rule to maintain plausible deniability. So if you call a woman out on her human meows she will deny with the sort of ingenious excuses that so seamlessly blend reality and fantasy. To wit: “If you want sex baby, you could just say so instead of meowing like a hungry cat.” Her: “I was asking if you’d like to make us some green tea!”
- The Telepathic Sex Stare. Half-lidded, lips imperceptibly parted, you wonder if she’s doing an end run around your consciousness and making a direct connection with your hindbrain. Women rarely win staring contests, except when they want sex. Or when they’re accusing you of cheating.
- The Symbolic Suggestion. When a woman suggests “Let’s have the red wine instead of beer” or “Let’s move to the bedroom, it’s sunnier in there” or “Let’s light the candles to save electricity”, it means “Let’s have sex”. “Let’s flush the toilet after a leaving behind a giant deuce” does NOT mean “Let’s have sex”. Learned that the hard way.
- The Unprompted Shoe Removal. Here’s an important tip, gentlemen. When you have brought a girl back to your place or you have gone to hers, pay close attention to how soon she removes her shoes. If she takes hers off quickly upon settling in, you have good chance for intimacy.
- The “Wow, I could use a backrub” Bonk Over The Head. This one is obvious. When she starts rubbing her neck and complaining about her hard day at work, it is NOT your cue to give her an extended backrub that hurts your hands. It IS, however, your cue to give her a two second shoulder grasp, followed immediately by a cupping of her tits from behind. Note: Longtime married men should take into consideration that the wife would really prefer the backrub to sex. Sorry, hubbies. Shoulda listened to me.
- The Aunt Jemima Channeling. Pancakes are no fun without Aunt Jemima’s. “Do you know what would really go great with this new king-sized bed we just bought?” Don’t wait for an answer. She’s not giving it.
- The Snake Hiss. When you come up behind her to scratch her head or briefly rub her shoulder, she’ll inhale an exaggerated hissing sound of pleasure — SSSSSSssssssss — that means she wants more. A lot more.
- The Campbell’s Soup Song. Give your woman a kiss. After the kiss, if she’s still leaning forward with half-closed eyes and saying something like “Mm mm mm, that was good” you can translate that as “Mm mm mm, I need a deep sea drilling.”
- And finally, one of my personal favorites: The “I’m Horny” State of the Union Address. When a girl is superhorny and she just doesn’t have the patience for subtler means of communicating her arousal, she will sometimes stare blankly into space and announce, unceremoniously and without untoward inflection to no one in particular, “I’m horny”. She will say this with a hint of exasperation even, but she will never say it to you directly, even if you are standing one foot in front of her. In that case, she will turn her head 90 degrees to the left and declare her horniness to an invisible audience of psychotherapists. Under no circumstance should you respond “You are?” This will kill her horniness faster than a weeping beta with a microchub. Don’t grab her right away either. Wait a minute to grant her a plenury indulgence from her brazen suggestiveness, and then pounce. Skip foreplay. You’ll discover upon first grasp an angry swollen river of passion already swallowing your kayak whole.

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The human meow is fucking creepy, I’m like what is that? Is there something in your throat, speak up, why are you making weird animal noises.
What about when spooning and she backs that ass up and grinds it on your junk. That’s usually my hint
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“You smell good” when you are using the exact same cologne / deodorant combo as you do every single day has worked for me.
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“Let’s flush the toilet after a leaving behind a giant deuce” means she is finally ready for that threesome you once suggested involving her bi-curious lacrosse teammate. You know, the redhead you often find yourself snake hissing at from the sidelines without any preocupation of maintaining plausible deniability because you can tell that they want to learn the hard way.
Your welcome.
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Vajlovian hierarchy of values = FAIL.
I think you are talking about Maslow (Unless you are VERY subtle in your humor).
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Truth.
Unless you’re a certified physical therapist, the only reason any guy ever tried to be a masseur was for plausible deniability of kino with a woman he wanted to fuck. Women know this, but when they’re single a back rub is a convenient precursor to getting after it. Massage might be foreplay when you’re single, but after marriage it’s relaxation and it kills arousal.
That said, it’s far more useful to make massage a post-fuck reward when you’re married.
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@NYCer
“Vajlovian hierarchy of values = FAIL.
I think you are talking about Maslow (Unless you are VERY subtle in your humor).”
Say it out loud. Pay some attention to the first syllable of the word.
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@NYCer
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You are the definition of a pompous-jerk (you know this). But damn boy, you can fucking write.
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Everything on that list is correct.
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My GF (sorry ladies) says “why don’t you come over for dinner. then we can have sex”. She also makes little purrs or moans when she wants round 3. She is sweet and innocent on the outside. She’s 29. I think women her age are okay with askin’ for it directly.
Another one, age 26, would come out straight and say “let’s have sex”.
Previous GF [26 y/o, looked 16 – boy did I get a look from the hotel concierge once!] texted me, “Sweetie, I’m horny”. I then made her dress up in stockings and garter. She was a filthy feminist whore.
A long-time-ago GF [20 y/o] invited me over for dinner, and opened the door wearing a PVC nurse’s uniform. That was hot. She was also sweet and innocent on the outside.
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Natural blondes have been known to announce their desire by just saying, “I’m so drunk!!!”
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I don’t think I’ve ever directly verbally asked for it, but that is why we have a. innuendos and b. touch.
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Women: some dissemblance required
So…does this mean women WILL NOT start proposing marriage to men anytime soon?
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Some more personal observations to add to the list:
– The super-silly weirdo act; if she behaves like a imbecile teenager, she wants sex. Now.
– The “I don’t know why” Tears; Sudden, inexplicable emotional outbursts that she cannot explain herself mean she is horny to the point of sexual frustration
– The feisty shit test machine gun; if she is cranky, moody
– The “boxing fight”; if she itches for a spanking and rough sex, she might even initiate physical contact by playfully boxing or biting you;
– The guttural laughter; girls have two kinds of laughs: the “Hihihihi – I am Daddie’s little girl” polite laugh and the “Hohoho – I can’t believe you said that!”. You want the latter
– The sudden fitness enthusiast (or dancing) burst; “to release energy”
If you are Da Man, she will be horny around you most of the time. The list is almost endless
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Women can get incredibly frustrated and outright angry at men who fail to read these signs. Any of the above are so obvious to the female mind, they cannot fathom that some guys “don’t get it”. One girl I know described those poor ignorant chubs as “cruel”.
Whether it is fake or not, the “Fucking fuck me already” post on craigslist circulated around females I know with comments like “Amen to that”.
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Hahaha lollll. Awesome. 🙂 So true that
Translation heard by most girls’ ears: guys enjoy the chase, so don’t be too easy.
Most girls prob. think guys’ #1 interest is sexx, so many girls extrapolate what you just described to the interactions leading up to it (what guys hatefully call “playing hard to get”).
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Over the years I’ve learned that women are just as horny as men. All of the women I’ve been involved with got busy with themselves, had porn videos (or favorite sex websites), owned vibrators and/or dildos …etc. Most had done it with a girl and/or tried a threesome.
There is a difference to thier horniness, however. Men lust after women and women want to be lusted after by men. It makes them as hot as we are when we lust after them.
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Dammit, I meow at people because I think it’s funny.
Fuck my life.
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lovelysexybuttox,
Detox my Buttox
– GB
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I can’t say she’s wrong. I’ve done most of those things at one time or another. The massage bit is still something I do to initiate with someone I’ve yet to really establish kino with.
I stopped doing the “I’m horny” thing, though. It just seemed too passive-aggressive, in a weird way. With my most recent boyfriend, we’d meet up he’d ask me what I wanted to do, usual answer would be something like: “Roll around in bed for a few hours and then dinner. Or get dinner, then roll around in bed for a few hours. How hungry are you, exactly?”
Great thing about LA is that there are a lot of decent late-night restaurants available.
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I find it hard to believe that women are just as horny as men when it is a fact that testosterone affects labido.
Being horny is different than being a mindless, sensation seeking, narcissistic Alpha-cum dispensor. Its not that women aren’t horny, its just that perseptions of male vs female horniness is distorted by females wearing their emotions on their sleeves. Think about it. They have no control over their impulses and urges (shopping, etc.) so they appear to be as horny, when really they just lack self control.
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I find it hard to believe that women are just as horny as men when it is a fact that testosterone affects labido [sic]
So does estrogen.
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men have a higher sex drive its fact, the odd horny broad means nothing
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OT comment, but seriously, which one of you are driving around Arlington with a VA license plate that reads ALPHA WLF ?
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””’To wit: “If you want sex baby, you could just say so instead of meowing like a hungry cat.” Her: “I was asking if you’d like to make us some green tea!””””””’
””””’Let’s flush the toilet after a leaving behind a giant deuce” does NOT mean “Let’s have sex”. Learned that the hard way.””””’
””””’ In that case, she will turn her head 90 degrees to the left and declare her horniness to an invisible audience of psychotherapists. ””””’
””””””’Under no circumstance should you respond “You are?” This will kill her horniness faster than a weeping beta with a microchub.”””””’
This post was funny as fuck.
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Hey, women: Say it, don’t hint! (And you complain men aren’t communicative.)
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“What about when spooning and she backs that ass up and grinds it on your junk. That’s usually my hint”
this pls
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fuck john terry, how about john harkes?
the venerable mr harkes banged eric wynalda’s wife before the ’98 world cup. the coach left him off the team when he found out, but never revealed his reason.
wynalda was the first to confirm it publicly this weekend, referencing it in regards to john terry. wynalda divorced his wife, but not until 2002. harkes, on the other hand, even wrote a book denying the affair years ago, just to “clear his name.”
there’s not much to be gleaned from identifying the hierarchy of alpha and beta, but it is an interesting thought experiment. would you publicly out your cheating wife and one of your “peers”, or keep quiet to save face? without considering “chivalry” as a motivation, i think you could make the case both ways, depending upon how famous you are.
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H,
You nailed it. It preserves plausible deniability. It’s an anti-slut defense.
You nailed it x2.
While a lot of men eventually catch on to the first, it seems to me most men in LTR’s miss this second gem. They’re too pussy-struck themselves to notice this corresponding need in their women. Fact is, many women walk around with the idea that their own vaginas are the center of an alternative Copernican system–something all the men in their known universe revolve around, or are expected to revolve around. But when you show her you’ve got your own orbit so-to-speak (okay, so just bear with the metaphor already), when you show her you don’t jump every time her pussy asks you to, you then violate much of what she’s assumed. You warp her world view and it shifts the center of influence back to you. You can then begin to exert more control over the when/where/and frequency issues related to sex.
How to show her that your not under the complete spell of her sex? Probably worthy of another post entirely.
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men have a higher sex drive its fact
Sure. If you say so.
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When I want sex (which is pretty much all the time, except when I’m hungry–when I’m hungry, I want food and sex, but food first…even when I’m asleep, I’m totally open to sex, SRSLY), I usually just declare it. Something akin to “Let’s fuck NOW.”
Or I dress up like a little slut and prowl around his workplace (we both work at home, so it’s not as risque as I make it sound).
It’s pretty straight-forward. I guess it helps that he can’t really go wrong with just assuming I want sex…
When I ask for a back-rub, I want a back-rub. And sex. But also a back-rub. A real one.
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Good thing you want it all the time, ’cause you’re going to get it whether you want it or not.
(of course, even if you think you don’t want it, you’ll discover after a few seconds that you were sorely mistaken)
mmhmm good relationship
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Poxy–
Yeah, but don’t lie. Food trumps sex in your world too.
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@meh
“OT comment, but seriously, which one of you are driving around Arlington with a VA license plate that reads ALPHA WLF ?”
You mean, “Alpha FTL.”
Cannon’s Canon is from Virginia, I think.
@LILGRL:
Yeah, if I were at your point in a relationship (a point in which I’m having sex with the person) I wouldn’t try to act all coy and retarded about it. Women who try THAT hard to not appear slutty are women who probably have a notch count of 40 racked up and need to try extra hard to pretend they don’t. I can’t see what’s so bad if you love and trust that person (which you must, if you’re having sex) to be honest about it.
And women that are being vague about it are messing things up for other women, because now men assume that vague, innocent things like,”Hey, let’s hang out!” are the same as,”Hey, let’s f-“
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Are you two like posting this banter from the same PC or separate PC’s in the same room/house?
In my case, the plausible deniability cue is the statement “It’s time to go to bed” while she continues to sit there and not move.
If she were really tired and wanted to go to sleep, she’ll say “I’m going to bed” get up and go.
When she says it without moving, what she’s REALLY saying is “turn off the TV/put down that guitar/finish your drink, and take me to bed!”
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Course there are the female outliers:
”””Am I gonna get some dick tonight?””
””””If you don’t give me some dick I am taking it.”””
””””’That fucked up your not gonna give me some dick.””
”””The dive onto the dick and begin sucking technique”””
””’The ball grab and stroke””””’
lol
But I actually prefer the glance ””””””’The Telepathic Sex Stare. Half-lidded, lips imperceptibly parted, you wonder if she’s doing an end run around your consciousness and making a direct connection with your hindbrain.””””””’ over the shoulder as she walking or turning away that brings out the predater instincts.
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Or just the delicate grace that makes you want to destroy something beautifull.
Maker her all sweaty remove the makeup mess up the hair he he he
The important thing for woman is they should have stories to tell the friends to make those bitches jealous.
A good woman will of course have sex anytime with you that you want it.
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I’ve only really gotten those from women who were frustrated they weren’t getting what they want. You know the kind: LJBF type pals. I always take them at their word, and screw all their friends, which of course always makes them think they missed the schween chuckwagon. The shoe one is genius, now that I think of it. Quite a few of ’em have taken their shoes off, and I was all “WTF, shoes?” Never really made the connection until now. The other ones are more obvious. Another good one which 11minutes posted is some variant on the boxing match. Had one of those a few months ago, after she took her shoes off.
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Back in my AFC days I passed up all these signs more than once. Must have really frustrated my female housemate who threw most of these signals at clueless, virgin me. Also, the best signal is that telepathic sex stare.
Secondly, Vajolvian is probably an intended play on Pavlov and his salivating dogs. A pretty apt comparison for a desperately horny woman is a dog salivating over food. Not to mention that women are like dogs. They are always loyal and playful as long as you treat them right and make sure they know who is boss.
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Damn yall need to make up your minds. First you guys say you like it when a woman initiates sex, and now it’s passe! Whew….men are so confusing. Women may be indecisive, but men just as bad.
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I’m waiting for a blog post about John Terry’s affair and all the aging, hypocritical, cunty women who are spewing bile about him on social commentary shows.
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@Amestris:
No one knows what they actually want. That’s what it boils down to.
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bright stormy day:
were you even BORN yet in 1998?
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vajlovian : ) that is a good one
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This is so funny and so true!
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gunslinger:
Sometimes I swear you’re my long-lost twin brother.
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You conveniently left out the most common one ever. The bashful grin. Keeping it for yourself?
If she’s smiling at you and won’t quit smiling, but turns away whenever you smirk back, that means she’s currently thinking of your cock as the solution to all her problems.
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”””’on February 4, 2010 at 8:19 pm Amestris
Damn yall need to make up your minds. First you guys say you like it when a woman initiates sex, and now it’s passe! Whew….men are so confusing. Women may be indecisive, but men just as bad.
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She can but there is a diference between initiating a bj vs expecting him to do the workout.
There is a fine line.
Unless your man does a lot of housework then it is ok for you to initiate all the time.
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OMG I needed this. My biggest sticking point is sexual escalation and this is just what the PUA doctor ordered!
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”””””Epoxytocin No. 87
Sometimes I swear you’re my long-lost twin brother.””””””””””
I could handle that but then we got to test dna to see whose mom is real he he he
I like the move to both of you working from home. Wild stuff if your still making loot then quite impressive.
””””””””””’even when I’m asleep, I’m totally open to sex, SRSLY), ”””’
I see you also like waking your woman up from dead sleep cuteness he he he
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@Cannon’s Canon:
No. I died in 1998.
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Of course we make LOOT…we are CHAMPXEs
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BSD:
fine, reject my pursed lips!
we should hang out, though
don’t have to hook up – i will just take your referrals for my coke mules… um, call me!
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A woman’s need to feel physically desired is stronger than her need for food and shelter on the Vajlovian hierarchy of values.
The Vajovian’s hierarchy of values? Yes, genius, because vagina’s don’t eat and generally don’t concern themselves with shelter.
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Anyone that takes issue with the Vajlovian line has a defective sense of humor.
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Challenge:
Right on. That goofy smile (especially in public) is BY FAR the most common desirometer.
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@Cannon’s Canon:
Stop talking to me.
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Truth from fiction from INTP?
In American, men hit on to women.
In Russia, women hit on to men.
😛
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Of course, there’s a certain amount of silent gloating from Roissy because there’s a lot of lesser Betas and Om3gas who read his stuff and know no women want to have sex with them. >:)
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In that sense conformity and peer pressure are actually the highest representations of freedom. The difference between the individuality of a citizen and a rebellious teenager. Hegel says the real is rational. So I made a rather intense study of popular culture. I was interested in studying the way in which pop culture expresses the values and duties of our society. In that sense the highest duty and virtue was to pursue PUA sarging. But it was very hard to truly embrace that life with good faith. It is just as impossible to travel back in time intellectually as it is physically. In some sense I maintained my semi-religious ethical views while realizing that they were not grounded in biological man as he actually was. In a sense my pessimism derives from having Christianity without Jesus.
Well the inclinations that come naturally to everyone in our society (eg wanting to get laid), don’t really drive me. So what is first nature to everyone else, has to be made a rational argument to me, and so I see PUA as sort of a Hegelian duty as opposed to others who feel it internally. I suppose it was necessary that all spiritual illusions be blown away before I could truly see the world biologically.
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Enamdar seems to have strung together a sequence of English words that, while syntactically correct, has no meaning.
Or is it just me?
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Must be a US thing. Canadians always take their shoes off at the door, so that doesn’t really apply as “a signal” .
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Is this shoe thing some American custom? Cause I have hardwood flooring everywhere in my apartment and its pretty much assumed that when people get in they take their shoes off right at the vestibule.
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Great post.
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calvinwallace, just assume it’s a signal from now on, and increase your bang rate by 600%.
When she takes off her shoes, take off your pants.
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Damn this roissy dude knows what he’s talking about. Women love domination from men, and men submissive women.
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“which one of you are driving around Arlington with a VA license plate that reads ALPHA WLF ?”
Nobody, that’s too many characters.
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@wamp wamp, enamdar
Enamdar is posting as if this site is all new to him, just stating broadly how his studies in philosophy, specifically in Hegel, have made PUAism seem practically mandatory, though his gradually deteriorating religious background made that difficult to come to terms with.
True to Liberal Arts form, he made it as convoluted and impenetrable as possible. Being on this page, that almost makes it a referential joke, were it deliberate and not a sign of having his mind repeatedly dashed against the rocky ideals of modern collegiate liberalism.
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>Under no circumstance should you respond “You are?” This will kill her horniness faster than a weeping beta with a microchub.
A good answer is, “I know.” It shows you are aware of her and her state, but for nefarious reasons made her wait.
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“so I see PUA as sort of a Hegelian duty”
Don’t you mean Cuntian? (Hey, Roissy started it…)
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“Enamdar is posting as if this site is all new to him, just stating broadly how his studies in philosophy, specifically in Hegel, have made PUAism seem practically mandatory”
What a fucking waste of money.
Shaft — “It’s my duty to please that booty.”
Tuition dollars = 0.
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Roissy with the good word again.
The only thing a beta hates more than an alpha swooping down and stealing his fresh meat is an alpha swooping down, stealing his fresh meat, and writing the treatise for such on the beta’s forehead.
Roissy has spoken…so let it be written, so let it be done.
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This post is made of 100% pure win 🙂
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So, Roissy (& anyone else), what if you’re an attractive woman & your mate is consistently less interested in you & having sex with you because of “stress” and “work on my mind” & you are just as attractive as you’ve always been & you are just as horny as you’ve always been? You have given all the signals (that you & other commenters have mentioned) & you get the feeling that sex is actually less enjoyable for him?
He also stops setting fixed times for meeting & frequently shows up late, because work is overwhelming for him?
Does this really happen to men–that work overwhelms them & they care about & are just as attracted to their mate, but have less energy for the relationship? or Does this mean it’s time for the woman to take a step back from the relationship?
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Well the vast majority of my philosophy education was self-taught through online lectures. And I suffer from all the benefits as well as flaws of being an autodidact.
I was never religious in the sense of going to church, but I embraced a Puritanism, far stronger than any Southern Baptists.
Reading Roissy has turned me into much more of a white knight than I ever was. And so perhaps my despair is a tad unfounded in that women are not quite the altruistic do-gooders who get taken advantage of, that he seems to suggest.
I see Roissy as the spokesmen for our historical era. And the fact that he claims outsider status just makes it more official. Its stupid to speak about morality from your favorite part of history. Morality is always historical. In that sense Roissy is 2010 USA exemplar of morality, while I’m morally bad for not clubbing and being a PUA.
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Best invitation I’ve heard was “I would like a hard-on in me.”
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Women that meow are actually furries.
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Below are some of the symptoms. If you see these she wants yee.
http://grittypoet.blogspot.com/2010/02/le-plus-beau-regard.html
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And this is why I read you…because you know what the fuck you are talking about when it comes to women. Brilliance, again. I don’t approve of how the information is collected, but I can not deny that you analyze it quite well.
one to add to the list: she finds ways to bend over and “pick things up” in front of you lot.
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Remember reading a past Roissy post where he mentioned that anytime a woman mentions ‘sex’ at all, it means they are in fact thinking of doing it with you.
One thing I constantly mull in my mind is one of the hottest chix I ever knew (looked like Keri Russell! http://www.seeallnews.com/htdocs/userfiles/horoscope/keri-russell.jpg ) one time she came over to my apartment and mentioned that she was horny and that she wanted to get banged by one of her co-workers!
I am hoping that it meant she really was just trying to signal to me that she wanted me!
(PS didn’t want to hook up with her though because she had, not one, but TWO kids! )
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[…] Roissy – “The Wall“, “Plausible Deniability” […]
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Women who were fraternal twins with a male sibling are more likely to speak “guy” and be more communicative with you about nookie-related things; e.g., look you in the eye and ask “Wanna f*ck?” or say “Maybe would could have sex later.”
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“Women rarely win staring contests, except when they want sex. Or when they’re accusing you of cheating.”
FTW.
I am a big fan of the more methods. But sometimes it’s fun to see if he’s still paying attention.
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[…] David Alexander on Feb.08, 2010, under Uncategorized After reading Roissy’s post on how women will never openly demand sex, I’m somehow left with feeling annoyed that women […]
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And don’t forget, your spunk has mindcontrol properties:
http://jenapincott.wordpress.com/2009/01/08/semen-has-mind-control-properties/
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don’t be too hasty to interpret shoes this way. after a night out i usually can’t wait to get mine off. check out the shoes women wear — they’re fucking painful.
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[…] Plausible Deniability – Great article by Roissy about some of the different ISIs women give. Grow Your Game: […]
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@11minutes
very funny and true.
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Same drivel different day.
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