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Unemployment Busting The Mating Market?

March 3, 2010 by CH

Zeets sounded like a teenager who just discovered his parents’ 1980s era VHS porn stash.

“Dude, the women are coming out of the woodwork. I’m getting more than nibbles now. The fish are hooking themselves as soon as I drop the line in the water!”

Zeets has been blowing up the internet dating niche for the past couple of months. Multiple dates per week, and women were reaching out to him, texting him constantly about times to meet and what he’s doing for the weekend. And all this in DC. It’s as if the heavens parted and pussy shone down on his head like a beam of light.

“Why do you think that is? What’s changed this winter?”

Zeets stroked his goatee like a young Zeus. “Well, I can tell you what I think is going on. Most of these women I’m seeing are unemployed. That’s a big change from just a year ago when they all had exciting and wonderful nonprofit jobs. Now all those precious nonprofits have dried up. Suddenly these women are out of work living in an expensive city. A lot of them don’t have two pennies to rub together because of grad school loans.”

“And that’s where a guy with a steady paycheck can step in and clean up.”

Zeets jabbed a finger of exclamation. “Exactly. You take a guy like me, who knows his way around women, and who has a job and steady income, and it’s like putting a bulls-eye on my cock. Women are gunning for it. They’re not so ridiculously picky anymore.”

This conversation got me thinking about economic trends and how they impact the dating market. In most of the country, men are filling the unemployed ranks, not women. But DC seems to be an outlier. Women here are feeling the sting of the recession just as much, if not more so, than men. Accordingly, out of work DC women are adjusting their self-worth downward, and in the process becoming less spastically picky about what they require in a man.

It’s no secret that DC women are full of themselves. 4s think they’re 7s, 7s think they’re 9s, and cunty lawyers waving their big vocabularies and multiple degrees think they’re supermodels. I’ve discussed many reasons why women would be prone to overestimating their looks. Now you can add unemployment to the list of factors that influence how a woman perceives her mating value.

Women, and a lot of men, are stricken by a psychological disease known as projection. What women find attractive in a man is what they think men find attractive in them. All else equal, women generally prefer men with a steady income to unemployed men. And so they mistakenly assume men prefer to date women with a job and income. But men and women don’t neatly mirror each other that way. If the woman is good-looking enough, most men won’t give a shit if she’s out of work. They’ll be thinking of the lay, only the lay, and nothing but the lay. In fact, many men will go out of their way to date unemployed women, because they justifiably think they can date up a point or two when their designation as a job holder grants them a relative boost in status.

Maxim #31: Any change in the relative status between men and women introduces new instabilities into the mating market.

Women, however, almost always assign too much importance to their own employment status and too little importance to their looks or weight when subconsciously calculating how desirable they are to men. This phenomenon explains why DC, filled as it is with hard-charging alpha globocorporate cunts, is plagued by haughty 4s who think they can play a 7’s game. It also explains why women, now that the jobs are disappearing, are beginning to lower their expectations in the mating market based on a distorted self-evaluation of their sexual worth. Soon DC will resemble the less economically illustrious parts of the country, where a 4 is properly reminded she is a 4 every morning she wakes up and looks sadly in the mirror.

As long as women continue to believe their job status matters to men, regions where the recession has impacted heavily female occupations are going to be boomtowns for men looking for a chance to play out of their league. That 8 you thought was too hot for you? Well, now that she’s out of work, she just might give your beta provider ass the time of day.

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  1. on March 3, 2010 at 11:46 am thedcam

    That’s why I’ve been going out lately wearing suits entirely made of my most recent pay stubs. I go, “Hey honey, I know what you’re looking for and this $12.50 an hour I make assistant managing the Taco Bell is it. What say you and I go pick up a couple of Gordita Crunches with my discount and head on my back to my place.” Works every time.

    * It should be noted this has only be tested in bars located in Manassas, Woodbridge and Towson… I’m sure it’s still a can’t fail in DC

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  2. on March 3, 2010 at 11:48 am Victor

    DC sounds like a hell hole.

    And I thought Detroit was bad.

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  3. on March 3, 2010 at 11:49 am Greg

    I used a matchmaking service recently (don’t judge) and the matchmaker, a woman, kept referring to certain female clients as “great catches” because they either owned their own business or had a great job.

    And my response was, “Who gives a crap?”

    If anything, it makes them more unattractive because they are most likely the type A personality who barely have a shred of femininity left in them.

    I much prefer the easy-going, type B, “I’m just happy to be a secretary” woman. They are much more feminine, easier to get along with, and appreciate a man who has a decent job.

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  4. on March 3, 2010 at 11:51 am Jay Gatsby

    One key thought to keep in mind. Just because she’s being less picky, doesn’t mean you should be. That 7 who used to think she was a 9? Make sure she knows that she is a 7, and that you could have an 8 or higher if you bothered to put in any effort. The mating tables have turned, and you shouldn’t feel guilty about using the current economic circumstances to your advantage. These same women didn’t hesitate to date above their station when times were good for them.

    Don’t bother taking her to dinner. Dinner at your place (or her place), a DVD and an inexpensive bottle of wine should be acceptable. Note, having dinner at your place or her place still carries the same connotation it always has – you expect to go home (or to sleep) happy. If she doesn’t want things to go there, then you don’t waste your time with her. There are plenty of other unemployed women in D.C. who would gladly accept the amorous attentions of a well-endowed man.

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  5. on March 3, 2010 at 11:59 am Chi-town

    Another one of my usual comments in other arenas. Its why the fashion industry is full of stick models. Gays and women like boys, so the models look like boys. Its hard for a grown women to look like a 12 year old catamite. Then they blame the only one who isn’t there, Joe six pack. Joe six pack’s taste in fashion is Hefner and Guccione with plump, baby making, biological engines. Projection? Perhaps even narcissism. Women have really screwed up on the career game. Men don’t go shopping for more money. They are looking to spend it on goodies.

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  6. on March 3, 2010 at 12:01 pm Laura

    Roissy,
    You have a point on this one. I know several women with successful careers, who believed that their career success was a big part in men’s attraction to them. All the women are also pretty attractive. After getting older and not having the same pull with men, a few of them got dumped by boyfriends, husbands (for infidelity) I think reality is starting to set in. It seemed to annoy them quite a bit when men favored women who were less successful over them. They are not bad people, they just seemed a little naive about men. They have been brought down a few notches now and are actually much better to be around now.

    There is nothing wrong with a woman being smart and hard working, both admirable qualities. It just that men who have decent jobs themselves may not value your career success as much as you value theirs. Plus seriously, what woman wants to be loved for her paycheck?

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  7. on March 3, 2010 at 12:04 pm lurker

    Greg=FTW. John Wayne said it best (I believe): “I don’t care if my wife is President of the United States, so long as supper’s on the table when I get home.”

    Adam Corolla gave it second best: ‘Janet Reno’s husband doesn’t know what she does for a living, and doesn’t care.”

    Feminism told women to act like men, which makes them unattractive, and thus easier for the Lesbinazis to convert (and sexier, since Lesbinazis like unfeminized women).

    Roissy, a question: When you say “internet dating” could you be more detailed? Is this craigslist or legit pay services (Match.com)?

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  8. on March 3, 2010 at 12:06 pm Uno

    Roissy – you are right on.

    The only thing I would add is that America is particularly prone to this thinking. New York sounds alot like DC. I found the same attidude. Average women somehow thought their great career or resume upped their status somehow towards men. Never. In fact, I feel the exaxt opposite. I seek actively seek out less ambitous women – way less drama and easier to manage IMO

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  9. on March 3, 2010 at 12:09 pm Ari Hinkelberger

    I’d fuck a hot cocktail waitress long before I’d put my schlong in a lawyer who is a seven. That’s just the rules of the wild.

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  10. on March 3, 2010 at 12:11 pm Laura

    One of my friends was bragging about being the best looking woman at a mechanical engineering convention and therefore getting a lot of attention. Someone pointed out that if she was at a flight attendant convention she would barely have gotten noticed.

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  11. on March 3, 2010 at 12:21 pm Advocatus Diaboli

    Employment for Adult Males is at Record Lows

    http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2010/03/employment-for-adult-males-is-at-record-lows/

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  12. on March 3, 2010 at 12:23 pm OhioStater

    Wow, you completely missed the mark! It’s the women that kept their jobs and the men lost theirs!

    http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2010/03/how-a-new-jobless-era-will-transform-america/7919/1/

    In 99.99% of America, the places without mass transit trains, your “sad looking 4” thinks shes a 6 since she has a job, but all of the men are unemployed.

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  13. on March 3, 2010 at 12:24 pm lurker

    OhioStater, please re-read. Roissy clearly states that: “In most of the country, men are filling the unemployed ranks, not women. But DC seems to be an outlier.”

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  14. on March 3, 2010 at 12:25 pm Fred

    But DC seems to be an outlier. Women here are feeling the sting of the recession just as much, if not more so, than men.

    Source? Looked for stats that the male-female gap in unemployment rate was narrower in DC than elsewhere, but didn’t find any.

    Not sure that it would have to be narrower, anyway. Unemployment rates for both sexes are up across the board, and a formerly employed woman is still a formerly employed woman — she is going to perceive damage to her value even if there are statistically more men also unemployed.

    It does seem strange that women believe their career success matters at all to their attractiveness to men. But then, before I studied game I had many stupid ideas about what was and wasn’t attractive to women.

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  15. on March 3, 2010 at 12:29 pm Jay Gatsby

    Unfortunately, an unemployed woman is still more valuable to an employed man than an unemployed man is to an employed woman.

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  16. on March 3, 2010 at 12:31 pm ASDF

    It appears that you are the one who missed the mark, OhioStater. Roissy specifically acknowledged that across the country, it was men losing their jobs. This article is about DC, which appears to be an outlier.

    Personally, I don’t see how women can be keeping their jobs. Most chick jobs rely on a credit/real estate bubble to keep people buying frivolous junk and services they don’t need. When that dries up (if it hasn’t already), you guys will be singing a different tune.

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  17. on March 3, 2010 at 12:33 pm ASDF

    “Unfortunately, an unemployed woman is still more valuable to an employed man than an unemployed man is to an employed woman.”

    If there are enough unemployed men wandering around, this will change.

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  18. on March 3, 2010 at 12:36 pm OhioStater

    Let’s try this again…

    It seems the “normal” expectation for women is they will be equal or superior to most men, and won’t date down. If a woman is revaluing herself downward, to date down men she didn’t consider before, she WILL move away from that city. I know a lot of “broken” women that move back home where they are from rather than compromise.

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  19. on March 3, 2010 at 12:37 pm Dat_Truth_Hurts

    I like face, ass, legs, femininity, boobs, and youth.

    Job and education is an after-thought ladies. Chicks should get degrees in cooking, cleaning and cock sucking. Then men could have the jobs that all these retarded ass liberal arts majors get, and those men could marry those women and get a good home cooked meal and a blowjob that doesn’t “suck” (haha, I’m fucking funny.) once in awhile.

    Just imagine that world gentlemen. Just imagine.

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  20. on March 3, 2010 at 12:40 pm Challenge

    Just for the record, game trumps unemployment. Women lose respect for layabouts, and lacking a job has psychological effects in men, but any unemployed man who has a good take on the situation will still be able to pull.

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  21. on March 3, 2010 at 12:41 pm PA

    having a woman with a career means that thre are men other than you who tell her what to do and to whom she defers. Only acceptable job for an LTR partner is if she does somethign nice and fluffy like childcare, teaching or works in a store with other women and a female supervisor.

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  22. on March 3, 2010 at 12:44 pm Chi-town

    Roissy,

    http://roissy.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/thingirls1.jpg?w=475&h=378

    These illustrations are….SPECTACULAR!

    Nothing could say more about the state of our understanding in the 21st century. Draw it out in crayon.

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  23. on March 3, 2010 at 12:49 pm OhioStater

    DC seems like a fun city, and it seems like I would have more fun if I came back. I went out there in summer of 2008 for the 4th of July and I spent some time in the Adams Morgan and Kalorama area going out with friends. It was definitely a good time, but I stayed away from those giant slices of pizza.

    One good thing about DC and capital cities like Columbus, Ohio is the tax money always pours in and there is a lot of insulation from economic turmoil. There is more preservation of the status quo and less change in these environments.

    One thing odd is it is not normal the political capital (DC) of a country is not also lthe financial center (New York). We can thank slavery for that.

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  24. on March 3, 2010 at 12:50 pm xsplat

    PA

    having a woman with a career means that thre are men other than you who tell her what to do and to whom she defers. Only acceptable job for an LTR partner is if she does somethign nice and fluffy like childcare, teaching or works in a store with other women and a female supervisor.

    You see, now here is a man who is not afraid to take on his role as THE dominant master of his woman.

    Of course a great many steps led up to that, but in the end, thats the position he assumed for himself, and keeps for himself.

    You either get that, create it, force it, or move on. The man is the focus and center of his woman, by right that he earns.

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  25. on March 3, 2010 at 12:54 pm Andrew

    Try living in Kansas. I’m worth a shit load of money, but because I’m surrounded by millitary guys and farm boys who will fuck anything with a pulse I’m not even on the radar of average looking women. Looks wise I’m probably a 4, maybe a five, but I think living in states where the millitary has a strong presence is probably the hardest for your average beta, like myself.

    I’m not pissed off at guys who keep themselves in shape and will screw even the most disgusting of Midwestern women. I’m just saying it makes it hard for regular guys when you have all these fat women running around, thinking they are attractive because guys full of testosterone are banging them. I would bet millitary men have ruined more “dateable women,” and those undateable but at least worth a good screw than any other factors in this part of the country.

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  26. on March 3, 2010 at 1:00 pm Dat_Truth_Hurts

    Outside of military bases are the worst, except for large enough cities like San Diego and Tampa. I’m stationed in Tampa, and there are tons of good looking chicks in the greater area.

    Fayetteville, NC (Fort Bragg…) haha what a shithole.

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  27. on March 3, 2010 at 1:03 pm Peter

    Personally, I don’t see how women can be keeping their jobs. Most chick jobs rely on a credit/real estate bubble to keep people buying frivolous junk and services they don’t need. When that dries up (if it hasn’t already), you guys will be singing a different tune.

    Many women are also employed in government in some way or another, esp. in Canada. They’ll get fired too due to the recession, but the lag time is much longer. For example, in Canada, the early 1990’s recession, which lasted from 1990-1991 in the United States, lasted until 1995 in Canada. This is because governments had to cut back on gov’t spending and get their books back in the black – there was a risk of lowered credit ratings and a debt crisis if they didn’t.

    All these “employed” women don’t really generate wealth, they suck it up because it’s distributed to them either due to regulations, creating HR, Health and Safety, and Sarbanes-Oxley compliance departments. Or it’s due to taxing and spending on government projects, and bureaucracies are staffed largely by women. Eventually of course the money runs out; it always does. Governments cut back spending, and overregulated corporations are annihilated by the free market.

    One prominent feminist-leftist I had a conversation with a while back said “Seriously, it’s a joke that we can’t pay for social programs sustainably.” I wanted to tell her that she’s a joke for thinking money grows on trees.

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  28. on March 3, 2010 at 1:10 pm NikkiBe

    Aw, Roissy, I want to know how Zeets did with the virgin!

    BTW I’m sorry you’re feeling weary with the blog. Maybe you should post less-not a quality issue but just to not feel *obligated*. I enjoy your viewpoint in topics not seemingly related to Game- perhaps more on the arts? More followup on how the paleo diet is going?

    Or maybe put a tip jar up-we can all contribute to a roosh type adventure…

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  29. on March 3, 2010 at 1:16 pm Legit

    “game trumps unemployment….. any unemployed man who has a good take on the situation will still be able to pull.”

    Much less so. Maybe a temporarily unemployed man. One of the ingredients to male status is that of a provider (along with protectors, and leaders). Sure you can try to project something you aren’t as long as you stay away from you (parents) house, car, etc,. Sounds good in theory. In reality an unemployed man is on the fast-track to loserdom and everyone knows it including him. If he’s very good at projecting something he isn’t then yes, he can “pull” initial interest. But then again, if he’s intelligent and composed enough to do that then he’s probably not unemployed or at least not for long. Either way, you can’t very well exude status while depending on others for supper.

    Physchology changes during economic downturns (see EW theory, K-cycles
    ). People are more atuned to survival and less of dreams when the going gets tough. I don’t think it’s as much a matter of women “lowering their standards” as it is shifting their priorities. Suddenly the bass player with a mohawk, living out of a van seems “cute” rather than “hawt” like he was yester-year.

    A man who is on his financial game IS more confident and HAS more status since he is in relatively shorter supply, and higher demand. Accordingly, women will rate him higher because… well he is higher.

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  30. on March 3, 2010 at 1:18 pm Nightley

    Roissy, where can i get all your famous Maxim ? Is there a compilation of all these incredible truths ?

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  31. on March 3, 2010 at 1:24 pm Thursday

    An unemployed man will have more trouble getting with a high quality girl looking for a long term relationship, but if all you want to do is get laid then your employment status is basically irrelevant. The best guys I have ever known with women were pretty close to being unemployed bums even before the recession. Another rode out a long period of unemployment with a sugar mama footing the bill.

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  32. on March 3, 2010 at 1:25 pm David Rockefeller

    “Only acceptable job for an LTR partner is if she does somethign nice and fluffy like childcare, teaching or works in a store with other women and a female supervisor.”
    ________

    Sorry, but if your GF has a female boss, you will never hear the end of her complaints about her job.

    Remember Chris Rock’s routine about the only 3 things a man has to say when his wife talks about her day at work? Number 3: “I told you that bitch was crazy.”

    Women hate working for women. All that estrogen in the room makes them go bonkers.

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  33. on March 3, 2010 at 1:27 pm culdcept

    I am in the Las Vegas area and have noticed I have been getting a lot more replies and hits from women on online dating sites recentely. Its a great supplement to approaches so when you are bored at work, just send some messages out.

    Still not good to use exclusively and women have too many choices, but its fun to play around with. Around the Vegas area about 50% of the girls on these sites are crazy artist chicks with more metal than Iron Maiden.

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  34. on March 3, 2010 at 1:27 pm PA

    Another rode out a long period of unemployment with a sugar mama footing the bill.

    That’s not a man, that’s a loser. Unless he did legit help around the house, like a farm-hand/handyman or something.

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  35. on March 3, 2010 at 1:28 pm Firepower

    Why, oh why in the living fuck of christ does anyone with a brain live in DC???

    Why?

    Just, why?

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  36. on March 3, 2010 at 1:28 pm Ghost

    Successful career women should keep around a “house boy” who is in college. She would pay his tuition, he would live rent free with her, have the best video games available, take a light class load, and of course work out. She gets to have sex with him. It would balance out all the women who strip their way through college. Older the women, the more expensive the school she pays for.

    Just an idea.

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  37. on March 3, 2010 at 1:29 pm Laura

    Andrew,

    I think the women in Kansas are lucky based on what you said. Meterosexual city boys have ridiculously high standards for women.

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  38. on March 3, 2010 at 1:33 pm David Rockefeller

    I always thought military guys dated all the ugly chicks.

    The military’s full of loser guys who score with chicks no normal man would be caught dead with.

    If some PFC with bad skin, a serious porn habit, and no money is going home with the pussy you tried to land, you need to resign from the human race.

    And I’m saying this as the son of an Army lifer. I only ever saw officers enjoying high-quality pussy. (And not all of them, either.)

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  39. on March 3, 2010 at 1:34 pm Fred

    “any unemployed man who has a good take on the situation will still be able to pull.”

    I agree. I haven’t been “employed” (i.e., W-2, wage-style employment) for many years. My self-employment is sometimes lucrative, sometimes not. I’ve had months with negative income.

    But nobody but my accountant would know it. I’m always busy with work, even if it is work I am doing for free. And I am always enthusiastic about it.

    If you’re truly penniless and living in your parents’ basement, that’s obviously a problem. But “employment” isn’t necessarily what women are looking for in a man — active, ambitious engagement in pursuit of an exciting goal (even if it secretly produces little income) is no doubt better than having a job that bores both you and her.

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  40. on March 3, 2010 at 1:37 pm Skadi

    Dream on 🙂

    The article simply notes a general trend that has nothing to do with a worsening situation for women in particular. In tough times people flock together, safety in numbers. Back to their parents, extended families or farm houses. Or men with money. Urban living is a luxury. I’m happy for Zeets, but does it really make him feel better knowing that he’s picked based on his wallet, not on who he is as a man? There will be a trend of going back to the patriarchial (unromantic) marriage in some instances, but it is too quick to make definite assumptions like the article does. First of all these women are not looking for sex, they’re looking for a provider. They’re not looking for a couple of drinks or a bag of chips, but for a long term bf who will support them. The guy will still have to share his resources, there’s no getting around it.

    Second, this restructuring of the economy has hit men the most, because it has not only hit the financial sector, but the fundamental, industrial economy. There are many men today who are not homeless, hungry or alcoholics or on a verge of suicide just because they have a wife with a job. The men will bear a tremendous toll and they need to be assisted. I think in some cases they should consider positive discrimination, like, in the industrial areas.

    Nobody knows how the restructuring of the economy and the paradigm shift will affect gender relations. It would be too quick to assume that we will go back to the industrial model. The new economy that will surface will most likely be a mix of industry, services and some new technology. Most likely, people will have to turn to a more communal living, more co-dependent relationships (hopefully, to a more pagan way of life). In the States women will actually have an advantage because the public sector is expanding under the current administration. And even if the government weren’t expanding, the economy has a place for female jobs – especially in healthcare and education. Those businesses still left will still need administrative assistants 🙂 Healthcare, again, will become an increasingly big field of work with the aging society. Many services are still gonna be there and women do great in a service economy. Not all women have gotten worthless MBAs, there are now many valuable female specialists out there. The women will be fine.

    Don’t assume that all women project and think that it matters to men if they’re successful. Most women are aware of what men like. Don’t assume that women care about how much money the man makes first and foremost – they care about everything, including his looks (and age). The problem with women is that they tend to date up – crazy 🙂 Not all, as many have married/are dating equal or less successful men. Instead they should date evenly. 🙂 A self made woman wants everything – in one man!!! 🙂 She wants a man who is intelligent, gets paid well, who is tall, good looking, not older/younger by 2-5 years, understanding and helpful around the house. Not enough of such men to go around. This is the same type of attitude when an average beta male who cannot support a woman much less provide any luxury to her, expects to hook up with a hot, young working woman. Women who have good careers should be respected, but they should focus more on the man’s character, not his status or money. I would take a good looking, healthy, kind unemployed male any time as long as he treated me well. While if a guy is average looks wise, he better have a stable income and good domestic skills.

    Btw, what happened to those high maintenance bitches who abandoned their Wallstreet boyfriends after the financial crash:

    http://www.dabagirls.com/

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  41. on March 3, 2010 at 1:37 pm David Rockefeller

    Firepower,

    Because it’s one of only 5-6 cities in the US worth living in.

    The rest of America is a living hell.

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  42. on March 3, 2010 at 1:39 pm Chuck

    Laura,

    Kansas womens’ luck helps Andrew how?

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  43. on March 3, 2010 at 1:42 pm GdI

    Another good reason to be an officer. There are plenty of betas in the military, but large numbers of alphas too, especially among the real killers. Military guys – the together ones – clean up wherever they go (hence the reservoirs of resentment seen here from men who’ve never served). But in DC, the large military presence doesn’t distort things overmuch, as most of the guys assigned inside the Beltway are along in their careers and are married.

    The guys that beta-civvies have no chance against are the 35-45 year old divorced and angry military guys who are out for pussy in a serious way. They can be found at every decent bar between Calrendon and Adams Morgan. Look out, girls, you have been warned.

    In general, DC is pussy-heaven due to sheer numbers. Tons of stupid 20somethings go there for work, girly heads filled with fantasies, and wind up lying under countless alphas until, whoops, it’s age 35 and their pussy is gaping and no guy’s around for long.

    Excellent … seriously, guys – DC is for fun, but look elsewhere, almost anywhere else, for a serious woman for an LTR.

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  44. on March 3, 2010 at 1:47 pm PlanetGrok

    Does anyone remember Obsidian-kraken? Turns out he is or was a member of the NOI. I knew he was a Muslim before, but now that I know he is down with Dr. Elijah Muhammed in combatting the spawn of Dr. Yakub, things make more sense to me now.

    New post up asking the question that needs to be asked: Obsidian – Stupid or Crazy?

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  45. on March 3, 2010 at 1:47 pm PlanetGrok

    link: http://planetgrok.wordpress.com/2010/03/03/obsidian-crazy-or-stupid/

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  46. on March 3, 2010 at 1:58 pm Laura

    I guess it doesn’t help Andrew at all. I’m just saying I love all the cultural things major cities have to offer, which is probably why young, single women like to live in them. As a result most cities tend to have a large population of single women and the competition if stiff for men. In more rural areas, which might not be as much fun to live in, the men generally seem to have lower standards. They don’t expect to be dating a model.

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  47. on March 3, 2010 at 1:59 pm virginat50

    I’ve always wondered why career women want to tell me about their job, their degree, and their house. It isn’t interesting when a man does that, and it’s a turn off when a woman does it.

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  48. on March 3, 2010 at 1:59 pm David Rockefeller

    GdI,

    Good points.

    But keep in mind, those alpha killers you see in the military — they’re very likely to be gay.

    The rule of thumb (and dirty secret) for guessing which military units harbor the most deep-in-the-closet gay troops?

    The more macho the unit, the gayer it is.

    Of course, since they’re in complete denial (even to themselves) about being gay, they do the gayest stuff without realizing it’s gay.

    There’s nothing like being at a club in Germany and having a song come on that gets 60 American paratroopers to hit the dance floor, strip their shirts to show their worked-out torsos — and then dirty-dance with one another.

    I doubt you’d see that at a gay club in West Hollywood.

    20-year old military guys are some of the most clueless people on the planet when it comes to sex.

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  49. on March 3, 2010 at 2:00 pm Ozma

    I know a lot of highly educated/high earning men, and all of them have dated only highly educated women. And if you look at marriage statistics, it is pretty uncommon for people to marry outside of their social class and income level. If educational/employment status doesn’t matter, then why is this so? (This is an honest question; I’m not trying to be snarky.)

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  50. on March 3, 2010 at 2:01 pm Laura

    I was in DC recently and there were very attractive women all over the place.

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  51. on March 3, 2010 at 2:03 pm luvsic

    “Wow, you completely missed the mark! It’s the women that kept their jobs and the men lost theirs!”

    No, you did. He addressed this in his post >>>

    “In most of the country, men are filling the unemployed ranks, not women. ”

    Re-read if you have to. Then take a deep breath.

    I would argue that whether women have lost their jobs or not, they’re too dumb to recognize that they’re actually well protected by our society, however *fear* and *insecurity* – traits they have mastered – will rule the day and knock them down a peg or two.

    Think of the post-9/11 sex boon if you got to partake

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  52. on March 3, 2010 at 2:09 pm omarion

    “Most likely, people will have to turn to a more communal living, more co-dependent relationships (hopefully, to a more pagan way of life).”

    “Don’t assume that all women project and think that it matters to men if they’re successful. Most women are aware of what men like. Don’t assume that women care about how much money the man makes first and foremost – they care about everything, including his looks (and age). The problem with women is that they tend to date up – crazy Not all, as many have married/are dating equal or less successful men. Instead they should date evenly. A self made woman wants everything – in one man!!! She wants a man who is intelligent, gets paid well, who is tall, good looking, not older/younger by 2-5 years, understanding and helpful around the house. Not enough of such men to go around. This is the same type of attitude when an average beta male who cannot support a woman much less provide any luxury to her, expects to hook up with a hot, young working woman. Women who have good careers should be respected, but they should focus more on the man’s character, not his status or money. I would take a good looking, healthy, kind unemployed male any time as long as he treated me well. While if a guy is average looks wise, he better have a stable income and good domestic skills.”

    My, your world is just full of lollipops, gumdrops, candy canes and unicorns. You hope we revert to a “more pagan way of life”? You think the current trend of ultra-pickiness among women is something to be excited about? You think most men aren’t “helpful around the house”? (Then what are they doing when they’re out mowing the lawn, fixing the roof, caulking bathtubs and doing all the other home maintenance jobs women want no part of? Oops I forgot – all that doesn’t count because they’re not menial labor tasks like washing dishes, vacuuming, etc. Silly me.)

    Pull your head out of your ass and wake up. The second paragraph I quoted above is pure fiction – no woman in America thinks and/or behaves like that. And while we’re at it, lose the exclamation points if you expect any intelligent person in the world to take you seriously. Your posts look like text message sessions between moronic 8th grade BFFs.

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  53. on March 3, 2010 at 2:12 pm J R

    20-year old military guys are some of the most clueless people on the planet when it comes to sex.

    most 20yr old guys are clueless about women. that said, there are a lot of young soldiers who either marry their high school sweethearts because they’re afraid if they leave her back home she’ll start hopping on strange dick or they meet some local who knows how to read his ELS better than he does cause it’s the first piece of pussy he’s ever goten and he thinks he’s in love.

    as for your other theories, i’m calling bullshit. how much do you actually know about the military? for one thing, there’s no airborne unit stationed in germany, so you’re story is suspect.

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  54. on March 3, 2010 at 2:14 pm Ferdinand Bardamu

    Women, and a lot of men, are stricken by a psychological disease known as projection.

    I called it.

    http://www.inmalafide.com/2009/10/06/eternal-solipsism-of-the-female-mind/

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  55. on March 3, 2010 at 2:15 pm Thursday

    Ozma:

    1. Most men only know how to meet women through work or their social circle.

    2. Most people have trouble communicating with people who have much lower or higher IQs.

    3. Long term relationships have become much more consumption as opposed to production oriented. For that kind of an LTR you want someone whose tastes match yours.

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  56. on March 3, 2010 at 2:15 pm Old Glory

    GAME ON!

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  57. on March 3, 2010 at 2:16 pm J R

    I was in DC recently and there were very attractive women all over the place.

    no, there aren’t.

    i sometimes walk down the street and think there are plenty of cute girls, but “very attractive” is few and far between in DC. of course, your statement makes sense since women are very bad at objectively assessing othere women’s attractiveness.

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  58. on March 3, 2010 at 2:16 pm GdI

    @ DR — You’re right about the so-gay-but-they-don’t-know-it aspect to military life, especially the elite units. Marines are about 25% homo, I reckon (before any Devil Dawgs get on me, I’m a former Marine). Most, however, would be horriifed to self-indentify as homos.

    Actually, I’ll give my sodomite brothers in arms some credit here, since unlike most civilian homos, who are “professionally gay,” they keep it semi-quiet and are rarely in-your-face about it all. In other words, the fact that the suck c*ck is one aspect of the person, not all of the story.

    Remember, the average junior enlsted guy is from the sticks and clueless about everything, not just pussy. If he’s white he’s probably from Shitsville, Miss’ippi and gets his views on women from totally beta country music.

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  59. on March 3, 2010 at 2:18 pm PA

    Younger enlited men range from supersmart superalpha to borderline retard o m e g a, but the average military guy is less likely to have that soft, undecisive herbish effect than the average civilian guy his age.

    By the way, I agree with everyone who asks R to not quit. This is the best blog on the internet. I figured the little controversy with our friend in Pennsylvania around Christmas caused a problem, but the Sarandon post came back as one of the top five best ever.

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  60. on March 3, 2010 at 2:20 pm GdI

    I second JR here, I’d like to know where DR is getting his info from. I’ve seen what he describes, but there are, indeed, no Airborne units in Germany, not in years. Unless you’re counting 1/10th SF Group – which is Green Berets, not Airborne. 173rd Abn Bde is in Italy, not Germany.

    So, DR, what’s your deal?

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  61. on March 3, 2010 at 2:20 pm Thursday

    There are very few gay guys in the military, except in things like medical. Most of the gays who have been kicked out have been lesbians.

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  62. on March 3, 2010 at 2:20 pm David Rockefeller

    JR,

    Remember something called REFORGER?

    It involved lots of paratroops in Germany.

    I lived in Germany when my dad was assigned there. Two older brothers later commanded combat units there.

    You lose.

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  63. on March 3, 2010 at 2:23 pm Skadi

    How often does one have to mow the lawn or fix the roof and how often does one have to cook, wash the dishes or clothing?

    Speaking of military… isn’t that the biggest part of the public spending in the US? Tax payers subsidizing all this military industrial complex which mostly benefits males…

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  64. on March 3, 2010 at 2:24 pm Anonymouses Anonymous

    Challenge said:
    “Just for the record, game trumps unemployment. Women lose respect for layabouts, and lacking a job has psychological effects in men, but any unemployed man who has a good take on the situation will still be able to pull.”

    Just the other day, while sitting on a park bench, I heard a homeless guy running homeless game on a homeless woman. It was pure mastery.

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  65. on March 3, 2010 at 2:25 pm Madras

    I begin to question wheter you are actually in DC.

    First, for twenty and early thirty-somethings dating in DC has been great for my term here (2002 to present). The Hill is a virtual orgy, so is Arlington.

    Also, compared to a year ago the DC entry or mid level job market is MUCH MUCH BETTER. The political and non profit jobs were drying up fast in early 2009, but that has stabilized. I knew probably 20 out of work people last Winter. They all have either found other employment or left town. I know no one in DC out of work now.

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  66. on March 3, 2010 at 2:29 pm J R

    Remember something called REFORGER?

    nah, that’s before my time.

    as for losing, we’re not even playing the same game, bud.

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  67. on March 3, 2010 at 2:29 pm GdI

    @ DR: REFORGER, wow, million miles away, man. Before my time. So this is 80s info then.

    Ever serve yourself, or just watch others?

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  68. on March 3, 2010 at 2:30 pm PA

    Speaking of military… isn’t that the biggest part of the public spending in the US?

    Keeping a military is one of the very few legitimate functions of the Federal Government. How this military is used is a separate subject.

    Tax payers subsidizing all this military industrial complex which mostly benefits males

    What benefits men, benefits everyone.

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  69. on March 3, 2010 at 2:32 pm PA

    60 American paratroopers to hit the dance floor, strip their shirts to show their worked-out torsos

    We at least know that much: he watched a bunch of military dudes taking off their shirts and fancied them all gay.

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  70. on March 3, 2010 at 2:35 pm Madras

    @GdI

    “In general, DC is pussy-heaven due to sheer numbers. Tons of stupid 20somethings go there for work, girly heads filled with fantasies, and wind up lying under countless alphas until, whoops, it’s age 35 and their pussy is gaping and no guy’s around for long.”

    yeah, that sounds about spot on.

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  71. on March 3, 2010 at 2:36 pm Hitman

    I was an Army Ranger and we were as macho a bunch as they come. We were that way because of the things we were asked to do, and the things we did for our country. Things that would give lesser men nightmares for life. I’d also like to know what unit all the gay U.S. paratroopers in Germany were from. There are none.

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  72. on March 3, 2010 at 2:36 pm The Specimen

    Very true, but I think that most women’s self perceived dating market value has more to do with how they feel about themselves than what they think men want.

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  73. on March 3, 2010 at 2:41 pm J R

    madras,

    I begin to question wheter you are actually in DC.

    First, for twenty and early thirty-somethings dating in DC has been great for my term here (2002 to present). The Hill is a virtual orgy, so is Arlington.

    i don’t doubt what you say, but if you tell me that you’re constantly banging hot chicks in DC then i have to call bullshit. a guy with decent game can go out a few times a week and have a decent shot at taking home a 5 or 6, with a 7 or 8 thrown in here and there. a guy with great game can constistanly get the 7s, but the 8s, 9s and 10s are few and far between in this town. and almost every girl has an inflated sense of herself for the reasons that roissy points out.

    and while the jobs situation has improved, there’s a lot of people who are underemployed, people with masters working jobs meant for someone with a bachelots, a lot of people stretching out their internships, etc. exactly the sort of reality check that might make a woman reevaluate her self-worth.

    there’s really nothing in roissy’s post that doesn’t ring true about DC right now.

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  74. on March 3, 2010 at 2:50 pm Laura

    Interesting info on gays in the military. I agree with GdI that a gay man who is not “professionally gay”, but rather discreet about the whole thing deserves some credit for that.

    JR,

    I guess most of them would be considered more cute than very attractive, but I don’t think the average man is that picky. Couple cuteness with a nice disposition, a little humility, a reasonable expectation about what men should and should not being doing for you, an unselfish and easy going personality, I would find a lot of them dateable.

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  75. on March 3, 2010 at 2:56 pm omegaman93555

    Applying Occam’s Razor I think these women are just looking for a guy to take them to a nice restaurant, or for any free meal. I have trouble believing any woman would fall in self-esteem due to being out of work.

    A test of this would be- does Zeet take this women out to eat, and then they refuse to sleep with him? Does he take them out to eat, and they sleep with him? Does he not take them to a restaurant, and they sleep with him? Zeet’s theory is false on the first, weak on the second, and only really confirmed on the third.

    The whole “maculine, traditionalist men are all really gay” is a tired trope of the professional homosexuals, who can’t believe anybody is not really gay. The truth is gays are almost all effeminate and found in professions friendly to them.

    GDi- I was in the Marines, and I heard things occasionally, but 25% seems way too high.

    DR- I won’t dispute what you saw, but to attribute the behavior to homosexuality, conscious or unconscious, is to ignore the context. When I was a kid Mexican girls used to dance together all the time; they weren’t lesbians.

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  76. on March 3, 2010 at 3:02 pm john

    lurker re “Janet Renos husband…” :That was a funny quote,I thank ye! GdI:Guy you are soooo full of shit. Gays in the Marines are FEW and far between. Tho I gues theyre NOT far between each other’s assholes. I have been hit on by many a gay—but never ever while working as one of Uncle Sams Misguided Children! ROISSY: Your bashing of female lawyers should be mainstreamed,its soo fny and true. May I suggesta guest essay submitted to the Post?? Haw haw haw!

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  77. on March 3, 2010 at 3:03 pm GdI

    On military betas, important to remember that men who serve in uniform, especially if they’re lifers, naturally accept hierarchy and going along with things. They are unlikely to question why things are the way they are. Worse, many are saddled with the white knight complex from mom, church, society, etc. Many military guys, no matter how tough they are in many ways, simply cannot face facts about women and gender in America today.

    The biggest beta-pussies I have ever seen have been married military men, some of them very high-ranking; they command thousands of men in war but at home are chumps, under mama’s thumb totally, usually living in terror of her. Southern white boys – a big group, especially in the Army – are super-prone to this.

    The awakening generally comes when the wife bales out, ruins their life, takes the kids, etc; we all know this story. Then, too late, an awakening. Knowledge through suffering.

    Buddy of mine, a natural alpha stud – tall, good looking, flies fighter jets for a living – had his marriage collapse and realized he’s been utterly betatized by the evil witch he’d wasted his youth on.

    Good news is that he’s back in the real world, out of the slough of despond, and banging some primo pussy, bedding stippers and whatnot. Unwise in the long run, but cheaper (and more fun) than therapy.

    He’s also now a follower of Our Dark Lord, which has really opened his eyes, finally. Thanks, Roissy, for helping out your brothers in uniform and the war effort. Keep it up, dawg!

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  78. on March 3, 2010 at 3:07 pm John

    I thought that the Navy was the gay branch…

    Seriously, that’s what an Army guy told me.

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  79. on March 3, 2010 at 3:10 pm GdI

    @ john: I was a Marine infantryman and there were plenty of homos. No accident that most big Marine bases have gay bars outside the wire. However, the point of my post was that these guys do NOT act “faggy” as US popular culture portays it. There are no “hairdresser homos” in the Corps, they would get killed. But there is lots of homo-stuff, of a discreet and very masculine kind.

    French Foreign Legion is exactly the same, btw, for exactly the same reason.

    Check out the postings of Jack Donovan over at Spearhead for more on this kind of stuff – lots of gays out there who do not conform to the fagged-out stereotype.

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  80. on March 3, 2010 at 3:19 pm Skadi

    American women reacting to recession – the Man Ban: LOL

    http://www.dabagirls.com/2009/12/21/sexual-revolution-and-feminist-wrong-grandma-right/

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  81. on March 3, 2010 at 3:30 pm Madras

    @JR.

    Yeah, I guess your assesment of the DC hotties (or lack thereof) is accurate. That said, from my experience: in cities like Miami I am surrounded by 10’s but end up going home alone. In DC, surrounded by 6, 7s and 8s who are generally willing.

    I was overstating things when I said Roissy doesnt sound like he is in DC…but I guess it was a response to his over the top overstatements.

    Finally, it definitely sounds Roissy is basing his DC-view on Adams Morgan, Columbia Heights and other non-political hipster locales. All criticism of political types put aside, the best people who come to DC are attracted by politics/government…why the hell else would you come? Coming to DC to play in a band is like going to LA to sell insurance.

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  82. on March 3, 2010 at 3:51 pm Vincent Ignatius

    My school is full of women who think men are going to be attracted to them for their ambition. HA! Most of the women who got here did so more by hard work than intelligence, though the latter was necessary. Just by being at this school, a woman gets downgraded in my book for LTR material; she’s probably too high testosterone and concerned with her career to properly care for a family.

    These women are also more socially awkward. I once had one ask me my GRE scores on a date. WTF?! Maybe it was a shit test, but it just made me think she was an idiot.

    The girls here also drastically overrate their looks. A lot of our graduates go on to jobs in DC. I wouldn’t be surprised if Roissy has encountered a few of them.

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  83. on March 3, 2010 at 3:57 pm Laura

    GdI,

    What are the truths about women and gender in the United States today?
    Also, your friend’s wife spent her youthful years on her husband. I obviously don’t know the situation, but I’m sure the divorce wasn’t easy for her either.

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  84. on March 3, 2010 at 4:11 pm GdI

    @ Laura:

    First, this a men’s blog, de facto, so I’m concerned about men’s issues. Gals have lots of blogs, fem-feelings can be explored there. No doubt my friend’s wife has a story – opinions are like assholes: everyone’s got one – but I don’t care. I care about my shipmates and my brothers. On gals and their issues: Sierra Tango Foxtrot Uniform – as we like to put it.

    Second, I have no idea why women join the military; seems pretty fucked up to me. I joined the military to get AWAY from our feminized institutions like school, so I’m clueless. Glad they’re there in the limited sense that they provide easy pussy. But many are unattractive, plus a not-small number are lesbians – so, really, they’re nothing but a net drag when you think about it.

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  85. on March 3, 2010 at 4:13 pm Passing through

    “Pornography, Public Acceptance and Sex Related Crime: A Review,” Int J Law Psychiatry, 32:304–14, 2009.

    The Scientist: Porn: Good for us? – The Scientist – Magazine of the Life Sciences http://www.the-scientist.com/2010/3/1/29/1/#ixzz0h9NjcUX1

    “In the U.S. there has been a consistent decline in rape over the last 2 decades, and in those countries that allowed for the possession of child pornography, child sex abuse has declined. […] What does correlate highly with sex offense is a strict, repressive religious upbringing. […] Studies of men who had seen X-rated movies found that they were significantly more tolerant and accepting of women than those men who didn’t see those movies, and studies by other investigators—female as well as male—essentially found similarly that there was no detectable relationship between the amount of exposure to pornography and any measure of misogynist attitudes.”

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  86. on March 3, 2010 at 4:14 pm Ovid

    Years ago I had a friend who’s elder brother moved to D.C. My friend told me his bro always seemed to have alot of cash; he was always buying dinners for visiting family, lived in a nice apt., drove expensive cars etc. Strangely nobody knew what he did for a living. Rumor had it he was dealing drugs. According to the story, drug dealing in D.C. (this was during the ’90s) was more lucrative than in most cities. Consequently, many enterprising dealers flocked there.

    Does this sound plausible to any ‘tonians living there today? Is this common today? Was it common in the past?

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  87. on March 3, 2010 at 4:22 pm Xamuel

    PA: Having a sugar mama doesn’t make a guy less manly. It makes him more manly. Peoples’ wallets speak louder than their words and you’ll know a woman *really* loves you when she’s spreading her checkbook, not her legs 🙂

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  88. on March 3, 2010 at 4:26 pm Laura

    GdI,

    Alright. Fair enough. This blog is starting to turn me into a feminist, though.

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  89. on March 3, 2010 at 4:31 pm PlanetGrok

    I’m sure Roissy would find the motivation to keep blogging if he panhandled for donations. If it works for Sailer then I’m certain it will work for Roissy.

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  90. on March 3, 2010 at 4:35 pm GdI

    @ Laura: Then stop reading. Enough feminists in the world as-is. It’s so 20th century anyway.

    🙂

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  91. on March 3, 2010 at 4:54 pm Skadi

    Having a sugar mama does not make a man more manly at all. It only makes him materially dependent on the woman. It can sometimes be kinky.. but only for a short while. 🙂

    Seems like a lot of you misogynist guys want your cake and eat it too. You want man not to be the provider and protector anymore, but you still want the man to retain the status and privileges. Status and respect needs to be earned with manly actions. But I haven’t seen anything on this blog dealing with manly actions.

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  92. on March 3, 2010 at 5:02 pm Peter A

    Along similar lines – there was an article somewhere about sex in the Olympic village. The author was perceptive enough to notice that winning a gold medal made a male athlete more attractive – and the medal winners get all the gina they can handle. But the converse was true for women – the guys were all hot for the losers, the women who crap out in the early rounds, assuming that any woman who busts her ass enough to win a gold probably has forsaken a lot of her femine qualities to get on the podium. And, although the author didn’t mention this, the losers probably have more self-esteem issues and are easier marks.

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  93. on March 3, 2010 at 5:14 pm M

    http://www.gettingto5050.com/facts.htm

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  94. on March 3, 2010 at 5:17 pm M

    lol

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  95. on March 3, 2010 at 5:19 pm Skadi

    Yea, it’s because men tend to feel more masculine towards a woman who is in need of assistance. That’s sweet… 🙂 it would be nice if they also acted on this instinct..
    It is much harder to assert one’s masculinity with a strong, independent woman because the man doesn’t see where his masculinity fits in around her. They simply get intimidated by that. But there are many facets to masculinity…

    But you guys shouldn’t worry about those female medallers or independent professional women. Let them stay single. Go after the weaker and passive girls. Nobody is forcing you to sleep or even be around those athletes or crazy old feminists.

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  96. on March 3, 2010 at 5:23 pm Laura

    I am going to stop reading this blog because it really isn’t relevant to my life. However I just want to say I think Skadi makes an excellent point. With status and privilege comes responsibility, gentlemen.

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  97. on March 3, 2010 at 5:34 pm Dave from Hawaii

    It is much harder to assert one’s masculinity with a strong, independent woman because the man doesn’t see where his masculinity fits in around her. They simply get intimidated by that. But there are many facets to masculinity…

    Endless are the delusions that women tell themselves when it comes to men.

    Let me help you gain some real insight, my dear:

    It is much harder to assert one’s masculinity with a strong, independent woman because the man simply doesn’t see the point in putting up with an assertive, nagging bitch who competes with, rather than complements him.

    A “strong, independent” woman is nothing more than a woman who has bought into the bullshit and lies that acting masculine is the key to achieving “equality.”

    “Strong, independent women” living alone in their middle ages because “men are intimidated by them” are the wave of the near future. Here’s a hot stock tip: invest in cat food company stocks.

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  98. on March 3, 2010 at 5:51 pm lovelysexybeauty

    I don’t get this post totally.  Women who brag about their career and educational accomplishments?  I find the issue is more that women feel men are intimidated by their accomplishments.  Sort of another way at looking at hypergamy… Although more a problem for women who have aged out of dating market competitiveness. Although even “taken” women have to be careful not to overshadow…

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  99. on March 3, 2010 at 5:57 pm lovelysexybeauty

    Also, no one has mentioned a possible hierarchy of jobs for girls, in terms of, “Oooh ahhh… wow you do that??” factor, girl to girl.  Don’t forget what pop culture movies about girls reflect… from Sex and the City to shows popular today:

    1. Supermodel, actress or celebutante heiress a la Kim Kardashian or Nicole Richie.  These jobs involve perks like being featured in magazines for your fabulousness, and designing fashion lines when you feel like it (like the Kardashians recently did with Bebe).
    This is on the same level as the job of “Famous Rich Guy’s Wife.”
    2. Fashion job, either working for a big fashion house (Gucci, Philip Lim 3.1, etc.) or a big fun magazine in NYC.  A real-life “Devil Wears Prada” or MTV’s “The City.” 
    2. Interior designer or party planner.  Think Sloane from Entourage.  Or someone like the next Oprah.  Lots of girls want to be the next Oprah.
    3. “Gossip Girl”-style Ivy League prep. girl.  Future Old Money Wives’ of America club.  Job doesn’t really matter at this point – working for McKinsey (Chelsea Clinton) or as a teacher (Jenna Bush) are just about the same.  I would put the less “rich and powerful” jobs of celebrity-level Make-Up Artist or Hair Stylist on the same level as these types, for some reason.  Being a Bobbi Brown or a Sally Hershberger would be impressive.
    4. Medical doctor.  It takes so long to do and involves actual work, so less prestigious than the above.
    5. Lawyer.  The aspring middle to upper middle class type.  Boooring… unless you are a Legally Blonde type of lawyer.  Maybe the only appeal is that you have lots of money to buy coveted high fashion items (see, “Bride Wars” movie)
    6. Everything else, including non-profit… UNLESS the girl is doing non-profit work because daddy or hubby is rich.  Then she’s “better than all those other spoiled housewives who don’t do more than attend charity balls.” 

    Most of the girls I’ve met who try to one-up based on their jobs are the ugly ones… Usually the are getting less attention than the pretty girls and are mad about it.  Even when it’s in front of their face that it doesn’t matter… except to get them into the circles where they can meet higher status men.

    I mean, look at the Millionaire Matchmaker show…those guys mostly don’t care about the girl’s job.

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  100. on March 3, 2010 at 6:16 pm roissy

    I’m sure Roissy would find the motivation to keep blogging if he panhandled for donations. If it works for Sailer then I’m certain it will work for Roissy.

    i don’t think that would do it. after taking a fun overseas vacation during the holidays i thought i would come back to the blog feeling refreshed and rejuvenated, but it hasn’t happened. it’s beginning to feel like a chore.

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  101. on March 3, 2010 at 6:28 pm Rum

    Laura finally reverts to shaming language. Whatever. She fails to grasp that nothing women can ever say will add up to 1% of the influence generated by their sexing a guy (or not sexing him).
    Women commenting here should keep in mind the unavoidable hollowness of what they say (about women) when compared to the lessons their sisters teach us with their naked bodies.

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  102. on March 3, 2010 at 6:30 pm c&b seen

    David Rockefeller:

    “But keep in mind, those alpha killers you see in the military — they’re very likely to be gay.”

    http://www.defendthefamily.com/pfrc/books/pinkswastika/html/the_pinkswastika_4th_edition_-_final.htm

    ” It was a quiet night in Munich. The people moving along the streets in the heart of the city were grim. They walked heads down, hands deep in the pockets of their frayed coats. All around, the spirit of defeat hung like a pall in the evening air; it was etched on the faces of the out-of-work soldiers on every street corner and in every café. Germany had been defeated in the war, but it had been crushed by the terms of the Versailles Treaty. Everywhere the people were still mired in depression and despair, several years after the humiliating surrender of Kaiser Wilhelm.
    In this atmosphere the purposeful stride of Captain Ernst Roehm seemed out of place. But Roehm was accustomed to being different. A homosexual with a taste for boys, Roehm was part of a growing subculture in Germany which fancied itself a superior form of German manhood. A large, heavy man, Roehm had been a professional soldier since 1906, and, after the war, had temporarily lent his talents to a socialist terror organization called the Iron Fist. On this night Roehm was on his way to meet some associates who had formed a much more powerful socialist organization.
    At the door of the Bratwurstgloeckl, a tavern frequented by homosexual roughnecks and bully-boys, Roehm turned in and joined the handful of sexual deviants and occultists who were celebrating the success of a new campaign of terror. Their organization, once known as the German Worker’s Party, was now called the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, The National Socialist German Worker’s Party — the Nazis.

    32 The Homosexual Roots of the Nazi Party

    Yes, the Nazis met in a “gay” bar.

    It was no coincidence that homosexuals were among those who founded the Nazi Party. In fact, the party grew out of a number of groups in Germany which were centers of homosexual activity and activism. Many of the characteristic rituals, symbols, activities and philosophies we associate with Nazism came from these organizations or from contemporary homosexuals. The extended-arm “Sieg Heil” salute, for example, was a ritual of the Wandervoegel (“Wandering Birds” or “Rovers”), a male youth society which became the German equivalent of the Boy Scouts. The Wandervoegel was started in the late 1800s by a group of homosexual teenagers. Its first adult leader, Karl Fischer, called himself “der Fuehrer” (“the Leader”) (Koch:25f). Hans Blueher, a homosexual Nazi philosopher and important early member of the Wandervoegel, incited a sensation in 1912 with publication of The German Wandervoegel Movement as an Erotic Phenomenon, which told how the movement had become one in which young boys could be introduced into the homosexual lifestyle (Rector:39f). The Wandervoegel and other youth organizations were later merged into the Hitler Youth (which itself became known among the populace as the “Homo Youth” because of rampant homosexuality. – Rector:52).”

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  103. on March 3, 2010 at 6:30 pm Laura

    I for one will be relieved to see this blog end. It’s a detriment to civilized society.

    [editor: lol!]

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  104. on March 3, 2010 at 6:33 pm sdaedalus

    Women who brag about their career and educational accomplishments? I find the issue is more that women feel men are intimidated by their accomplishments

    Lovely Sexy Beauty, I’m not sure it’s intentional, but a lot of women tend to bring the office home with them in every sense of the word. Women find it a lot more difficult to switch off from their jobs than men. Also, the ball-breaking corporate work manner is not really that productive anyway. Things can get done much more effectively by conciliation.

    it’s beginning to feel like a chore

    The price of greatness is responsibility.

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  105. on March 3, 2010 at 6:42 pm Dave from Hawaii

    lol indeed.

    Even if Roissy were to never blog again, and even deleted this blog in it’s entirety, you cannot undo the zeitgeist of exposing and demolishing the pretty lies of our age.

    Google “roissy-sphere.”

    LOL

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  106. on March 3, 2010 at 6:45 pm sdaedalus

    Thanks for fixing the italics.

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  107. on March 3, 2010 at 6:59 pm RMM

    “It is much harder to assert one’s masculinity with a strong, independent woman because the man doesn’t see where his masculinity fits in around her. They simply get intimidated by that.”

    That’s a lie feminist cunts like to tell to shame men, when reality is a lot more simple: Men aren’t attracted to masculine women.

    It’s pretty simple really. Much like men aren’t intimidated by fat chicks (well, except perhaps the fear of dying in their sleep if they lay with one, suffocated under an ever expanding amoeba of fleshy blubber), they’re just not attracted to them.

    Unless “fuck this, I’m sick of this naggy bitch” is the modern feminism-processed equivalent of the intimidation of yesteryear.

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  108. on March 3, 2010 at 7:00 pm Willy Wonka

    I get tired of dealing with broke girls though. I want chicks that will buy me shit. I deserve a reward for giving them good dick and broke/unemployed chicks don’t have the finances to reward me properly.

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  109. on March 3, 2010 at 7:02 pm anoukange

    “But DC seems to be an outlier. Women here are feeling the sting of the recession just as much, if not more so, than men”

    –I question this a bit. Wherever I go it seems to be equally men and women struggling here. DC is different in that it seems to be equal. A lot of the non-profits and think tanks lost their funding and both sexes suffer here given the nature of the city.

    “Because it’s one of only 5-6 cities in the US worth living in.

    The rest of America is a living hell”

    –This is true. There are about five US cities I could live in right now, DC is not my first or my second but it is better than most American cities. It’s international vibe alone puts it in a decent place on the rating scale. There is much variety in restaurants, bars, culture, etc. But there is little diversity in job markets, therefore in the type of folks who move here. There are many different looks and ethic backgrounds but most all are in similar fields of work.

    “Why, oh why in the living fuck of christ does anyone with a brain live in DC???

    Why?

    Just, why?”

    –Dude, Detroit. come on.

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  110. on March 3, 2010 at 7:04 pm Chuck

    I was in DC recently and there were very attractive women all over the place.

    DC came in second behind Philly for “Most Unattractive City” in the U.S.

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  111. on March 3, 2010 at 7:09 pm T-1000

    Women “work” in useless pink-collar jobs that contribute nothing to society. They spend their money on shoes, clothes, eating out, and rent (as opposed to paying down a mortgage). It’s no great loss if they get laid off.

    I have no interest in career grrrls and wouldn’t date one. I prefer an unemployed woman…that way she has no excuse to not keep my house clean, meals cooked, and younglings freshly scrubbed.

    You’re not going to find a decent American woman…they’re either careerists with no feminine skills (or time), or fat slobs who sit around all day, with no feminine skills. Go foreign, says I.

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  112. on March 3, 2010 at 7:12 pm dana

    chuck

    as a philadelphia resident and native i’ll tell you, philly is an idiocracy of dregs–it’s over 50% black which explains most of the ugliness and then lumpen white prole alcoholics who work for the city and have to stay within the city limits for their employment. the only good looking people here for the most part are some very wealthy people in center city and the college students and hipster artfags, who usually don’t stay. we are ringed with suburbs that have blue ribbon school systems and anyone worth looking at basically books there immediately upon breeding.

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  113. on March 3, 2010 at 7:15 pm Laura

    If I had know men really felt this way, frankly I would have keep my legs locked tighter than Fort Knox until my wedding night.

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  114. on March 3, 2010 at 7:17 pm luvsic

    ^^^

    No you wouldn’t have

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  115. on March 3, 2010 at 7:22 pm dana

    laura,

    you are having an unhealthy reaction to the truth

    i am a married women who reads this blog and i have applied everything ive read here to my marriage and its never been better–and it was already pretty great.

    mostly i now really believe my husband loves me a) ecause he stays with me as i age and b) because he makes the effort to game me enough to keep me bonkers over him.

    the truth is always better than lies–learn instead of leaving

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  116. on March 3, 2010 at 7:40 pm Racer X

    Roissy said, “I don’t think that would do it. after taking a fun overseas vacation during the holidays i thought i would come back to the blog feeling refreshed and rejuvenated, but it hasn’t happened. it’s beginning to feel like a chore.”

    Keep the blog going, just write fewer posts. Make your devoted readers beg for and anticipate your posts, like some whore begging for your cock. Then, when you penetrate their minds with the forceful thrusts of your newest post and spew forth the seed of your brilliant words, they will moan, scream and finally exhale in orgasmic relief, only to be left waiting in eager anticipation for the next taste of your verbal manhood.

    Or perhaps you might simply prefer to “pump and dump” your readership too, as you would any overly sycophantic, cock worshiping little whore who is just begging to be dominated and used.

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  117. on March 3, 2010 at 7:45 pm Vince

    Laura, I appreciated your posts up-thread.

    As everyone should know from Hollywood movies, we dispose of women as they grow older. Harrison Ford, Sean Connery, and other men can continue playing leading roles in films (if they so desire), crushing ridiculous pussy (if they so desire), but if you’re an old woman, then you sure as fuck better keep yourself from becoming beastly and/or have ridiculous talent: your Meryl Streeps, Emma Thompsons, Diane Keatons and Kathy Bates-es… Jennifer Aniston, as presentable as she now seems, better prime herself for supporting roles as mom, housewife and villainous boss lady.

    Men can always talk politics, sports, and work with other men. Or older women… if they’ve been forced into developing a personality. Even then, the ones who are presentable usually just want to talk about their stupid kids and I. don’t. care… unless your daughter’s hot.

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  118. on March 3, 2010 at 7:52 pm Rum

    Laura
    Listen to Dana.
    The truth is, keeping a guy loyal over a lifetime is not complicated. First, forget everything you were taught in Womyns Studies. Second, don’t get so fat that you look permanently pregnant. Third, fuck and suck him a lot. Any decent guy would run thru machine-gun fire in a heartbeat for such a woman.

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  119. on March 3, 2010 at 8:01 pm Laura

    Dana,

    This blog does make me appreciate my husband much more, I will say that. I showed it to him and he wasn’t even particularly interested in it. All I am saying is that the way some of the men talk about the women who slept with them on this site is not the way I would want a man talking about me (i.e. she took her girdle off and her body looked like a deflated sausage). I realize some of it is just talk and I do appreciate some of the insight this blog has given me.

    Also, I do not think American girls should try to compete with foreign girls (Eastern European seems to be the most popular here) by trying to be sexier and easier. I think American girls might be better off being a little more conservative overall about sex. At least they can maintain their dignity that way. Being a little more realistic about their market value and being nicer to men in general would be good, too.

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  120. on March 3, 2010 at 8:03 pm gig

    If I had know men really felt this way, frankly I would have keep my legs locked tighter than Fort Knox until my wedding night.

    may this evil misogynist infer that you kept your legs more open than the Federal Reserve’s money printing vaults until you came here?

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  121. on March 3, 2010 at 8:04 pm Madras

    @Laura…

    I can appreciate good flame. And Laura, I love it!!!

    “i.e. she took her girdle off and her body looked like a deflated sausage”

    I am pretty sure that no one, EVER, on this blog has mentioned girdles. But great flame.

    Do you happen to be an xoxohth.com reader?

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  122. on March 3, 2010 at 8:06 pm gig

    i don’t think that would do it. after taking a fun overseas vacation during the holidays i thought i would come back to the blog feeling refreshed and rejuvenated, but it hasn’t happened. it’s beginning to feel like a chore.

    two comments.

    fisrt, how cute!!! Roissy needs encouragement!!! Come on dude, you have posted even pictures of your neighbourhood and the topic had a thousand comments ! Do like Nike, now you have a brand. Post anything that people will answwer

    second, what you meant by “holidays” is actually called “Christmas”

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  123. on March 3, 2010 at 8:09 pm Burro burro!

    I require your well-reasoned take on this. Preferably by Friday.

    http://jezebel.com/5484896/why-arent-there-more-female-pickup-artists

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  124. on March 3, 2010 at 8:12 pm Laura

    Gig- that was pretty witty

    I’m just wondering if all those conservative sexual mores from the past were actually designed to protect women rather than restrict them. Just wondering.

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  125. on March 3, 2010 at 8:18 pm Dave from Hawaii

    I’m just wondering if all those conservative sexual mores from the past were actually designed to protect women rather than restrict them. Just wondering.

    Not just women…civilized society as a whole.

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  126. on March 3, 2010 at 8:24 pm Laura

    I am not an xoxohth.com reader.

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  127. on March 3, 2010 at 8:28 pm Rum

    Laura
    All those “conservative sex mores” were designed principly to deceive men. Afterall, if women never overtly intiated relationships and never actually conferred their sexual gold-stamp of approval on certain guys then guys, in general, would remain in the dark as to the basic truths regarding human female sexual instincts. And so a lot of well-intentioned but clueless beta-guys could easily be coaxed into making a binding lifelong committment to a female who never could find him fuck-worthy.

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  128. on March 3, 2010 at 8:36 pm Kevin Robinson

    All you cum-guzzling fucking whores who don’t like this blog need to fuck off and die.

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  129. on March 3, 2010 at 8:59 pm Laura

    Rum,
    Maybe there were some bad matches, out of desperation, but I think women still had a say in who they married.

    When you’re young and someone is attractive to you and he is smart and manly and he loves and is protective towards you I can’t imagine why having sex with him wouldn’t be wonderful. I still have fond memories of it.

    Kevin Robinson- you don’t deserve the dignity of a response

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  130. on March 3, 2010 at 9:05 pm Kevin Robinson

    I didn’t want any response from you. But I am pleased that you recognized yourself being addressed in my post.

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  131. on March 3, 2010 at 9:06 pm Rum

    What percentage of guys are perceived as, “smart, manly, and attractive?” by the average young female?

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  132. on March 3, 2010 at 9:18 pm Passing through

    Extra small condoms for 12 year-old boys go on sale in Switzerland

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/7361181/Extra-small-condoms-for-12-year-old-boys-go-on-sale-in-Switzerland.html

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  133. on March 3, 2010 at 9:24 pm Laura

    I’m not that young but anyway:
    Well, I consider myself fairly intelligent (writing skills aside) and I generally am most attracted to men in my ballpark intelligence wise. Luckily, there are a lot of men that are as smart as me if not smarter. In fact, I’m generally impressed by the high level of writing skills on this blog. (there are a few notable exceptions)

    Manly is something most men can work on. Read up on it.

    Attractive- most men at first glance are not lookers, let’s be honest. However, women tend to value the body way more than the face and that is something you can control. I’m not talking about all pumped up either, just in shape. Also, although tall men do have an advantage, most women are happy if you are about as tall as them. I don’t see the huge advantage to dating someone tall over someone average height.

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  134. on March 3, 2010 at 9:32 pm mr_mike

    If I had know men really felt this way, frankly I would have keep my legs locked tighter than Fort Knox until my wedding night.

    may this evil misogynist infer that you kept your legs more open than the Federal Reserve’s money printing vaults until you came here?

    lol

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  135. on March 3, 2010 at 9:49 pm Rum

    You totally avoided my question. I can easily see why you would choose that option.
    See, Laura, a basic tentant of game-theory is that women really only desire a small percentage of available cock. When the implications of this fact are fully absorbed, traditional notions of monogamy are dead – and cannot be revieved.

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  136. on March 3, 2010 at 10:11 pm Laura

    The most alpha man I can think of in my personal life is a man in his 40’s who looks great for his age. He works as a bartender and carpenter and has never been married and doesn’t have children. His girlfriend is in her twenties. Do I find him attractive?

    Yes, somewhat, as I know a lot of women do, but I don’t really think he is better than other men. I have no idea whether he has any game or not since he hardly talked to me.

    I would guess that there are certain women that most men would find very attractive, does it mean the rest of us are worthless? I don’t believe so. On the sexual market that Roissy talks about a few people are going to be highly desirable and most people will be somewhere in the middle. That’s life. Your girlfriend(if you have one) would probably leave you if Tom Brady came along and asked her out, but since that’s unlikely to happen I wouldn’t worry about it.

    Also, there are a lot of men with worthy attributes out there, it’s actually kind of rare that one stands heads above the crowd. There is always going to be another man who is better at something.

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  137. on March 3, 2010 at 10:18 pm Chuck

    dana:

    the only good looking people here for the most part are some very wealthy people in center city and the college students and hipster artfags

    You forgot Arthur Kade.

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  138. on March 3, 2010 at 10:32 pm lovelysexybeauty

    sdaedulus

    ,,,,lot of women tend to bring the office home with them in every sense of the word. Women find it a lot more difficult to switch off from their jobs than men. Also, the ball-breaking corporate work manner is not really that productive anyway. Things can get done much more effectively by conciliation.

    Soooo true. This is something I struggle with constantly. When your workplace is continually pushing you to “be more assertive,” just because you keep you hair long, wear skirts and talk with a soft yet firm voice… grr whatever. I get the job done and that’s what matters, hopefully.

    Western culture in general puts feminine, traditional women on the offensive. A girl can’t even talk about it without being shouted at for being brainwashed, having no self-respect, reading too much Maxim, etc.

    dana

    i am a married women who reads this blog and i have applied everything ive read here to my marriage and its never been better–and it was already pretty great,,,,

    the truth is always better than lies–learn instead of leaving

    Similar situation here. Reading this blog for the past few years along with related ones (Roosh, etc.) have helped tremendously. They’ve given me an edge in understanding how guys think… knowing what exactly I have to leverage… and how other girls mess up so I can grab male marketshare while they flounder 😉 OK joking a little bit there, but really… reading these blogs without getting depressed about it, listening objectively and applying what I learn strategically and just plain listening with an open mind (to the words spoken and the subtext) has helped me feel like I’ve beaten “incredible odds” of less men wanting to marry, only losers being the marrying type, not being able to get a provider and a bad boy in the same guy, etc.

    I almost want to call it the “follow Roissy for a year and you’ll get happily married” plan for women… but on second thought, it’s not quite that way for multiple reasons 😉

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  139. on March 3, 2010 at 10:33 pm lovelysexybeauty

    Sorry, Western culture puts feminine traditional women on the *defensive*, I mean to say. hehe

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  140. on March 3, 2010 at 10:42 pm novaseeker

    Manly is something most men can work on. Read up on it.

    The thing is, Laura, that boys are being systematically programmed by the public schools (and to a lesser degree by the culture at large) to NOT be manly. I know because I have a 10 year old son, and his mother and I have seen firsthand the bullshit misandrist social programming that takes place in the schools — stuff that is transparently designed to make the boys LESS masculine.

    This is why men here say feminism is one colossal “shit test”. The whole point is to separate the betas from the alphas, because the true alphas are the only ones “manly” enough to resist the social programming blared at them in schools (or the behavior forced on them through needlessly overprescribed meds).

    In case you hadn’t noticed, the whole point of Game, which is the topic of this blog, is to help these guys who have been mis-shaped and misinformed by the feminist-controlled education system and media to rediscover what it to be manly. We call it “Game”, but in reality it’s about recovering “relational masculinity”.

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  141. on March 3, 2010 at 10:42 pm Anonymous

    If you’re rich, they’re single. Love you long time, GI!

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  142. on March 3, 2010 at 10:46 pm Tupac Chopra

    I’m sure Roissy would find the motivation to keep blogging if he panhandled for donations.

    My recommendation: sell “Roissy is Right” bumper stickers

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  143. on March 3, 2010 at 10:46 pm Black Flag

    Hostility to lawyer chicks. Yes, I get it. But try to understand. Their world is male-dominated and they’ve learned they cannot be weak or they will be prey, and their clients with them. The stakes are really very high. A woman’s freedom, a man’s life.

    Intelligence can be disguised, and must be in many social situations, particularly when looking after clients. But it takes effort. It wears on a person’s spirits. They won’t do it unless they have to. And in dating situations they may tend to use their fancy vocabularies and learning as a tool to probe for fear and insecurity. Is he predator or prey? But there truly is no malice. It’s instinct, not cuntyness.

    As for all this twaddle up-thread about men not wanting women in masculine jobs, LOL! You boys bang on endlessly–endlessly!–about how all you care about is a woman’s looks, age, and how well she sexes you in bed. What the hell do you care what she does during the day if she’s doing you right at night? What do you care if she’s smart or stupid? You’re not listening to the bitch anyway. Stick your cock in ‘er ass, show ‘er whose boss and they’re all the same. She’ll come to heel. Or is that not right?

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  144. on March 3, 2010 at 10:56 pm novaseeker

    Lawyer chicks are the worst, by far. As a lawyer myself, I respect many of them as colleagues. As a lover? Pfft. You’d have to kill me first. And yes, I was married to one, once. Fool me once … and so on.

    One of the main problems with High IQ dating in DC is that there are far too many female lawyers in the mix.

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  145. on March 3, 2010 at 11:12 pm psycho

    You are all fucking stupid idiots. Bitch, moan, bitch, complain, bitch, moan, talk talk talk talk.

    You all do realize there are actually men in this world who are building something other than their internet social life?

    No different than a baby sucking his thumb.

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  146. on March 3, 2010 at 11:16 pm Alex

    Roissy,

    You have an intelligent, humorous, digestible blog.

    You seem very bitter toward D.C. women (and, toward D.C. in general). I have reason to believe a D.C. lawyer-type has stomped out your heart because hers was ice-cold.

    Yes?

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  147. on March 3, 2010 at 11:41 pm sestamibi

    @Vince
    “Jennifer Aniston, as presentable as she now seems, better prime herself for supporting roles as mom, housewife and villainous boss lady.”

    My reference may not be correct, but I think it was Goldie Hawn in The Second Wives Club who said that there are only three roles for women in movies: babe, assistant DA, and Driving Miss Daisy.

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  148. on March 4, 2010 at 12:01 am sestamibi

    Years ago I briefly dated an unemployed woman. She broke it off not because she didn’t want to be with me, but because she was ashamed that she was unemployed–even though she hadn’t been to college and her previous position was as a retail clerk in a bookstore!! I tried to explain that her job status was irrelevant, but to no avail. I hope she got her head together after that.

    Roissy’s point here is that just as women seek hypergamy, men seek a mate a little lower in status. No problem, right? Except when all the higher status power positions go to women there are fewer powerful men to marry up, and fewer women for men to marry down.

    As our current recession drags on and intensifies, we will sooner or later have to deal with the reality that we simply can’t create sufficient numbers of jobs to keep up with growth in the labor force, and maybe it will then dawn upon both policy makers and the public at large that maybe we’d better start thinking about ways to reduce the size of the labor force in order to bring things back into balance. That means getting cunt back home and not competing with men. This must and will be done, by any means necessary–especially as our macho Third World population grows.

    Roissy, I can see how you might feel burnt out. I hope you will continue to blog, but understand that you might not want to if you think the quality of your product will suffer. May I suggest that you find someone of equal talent to take it over?

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  149. on March 4, 2010 at 12:16 am Agoraphobess

    LSB
    When your workplace is continually pushing you to “be more assertive,” just because you keep you hair long, wear skirts and talk with a soft yet firm voice… grr whatever.***********************

    OT, but LSB has one of the most mellifluous, sexy voices I’ve ever heard. The men who work w/her must have constant erections.

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  150. on March 4, 2010 at 12:55 am JB

    “That means getting cunt back home and not competing with men. This must and will be done, by any means necessary–especially as our macho Third World population grows. ”

    Er..while we’re at it why not stem the growth of “macho Third World” population?

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  151. on March 4, 2010 at 1:15 am JB

    “You boys bang on endlessly–endlessly!–about how all you care about is a woman’s looks, age, and how well she sexes you in bed.”

    I think it’s safe to say any decision algorithm first looks at whether thresholds of acceptability in those areas are met.

    Intelligence? That correlates highly with economic class and thus where you tend to hang out. I doubt people here deliberately go slumming to the trailer park for below average IQ women.

    If she’s beautiful, young and great in bed, one can easily go 20 pts. below one’s IQ. Above 108-110 they’re intelligent enough not be crushing bores.

    Do I want a woman with a 112 IQ who’s a 9 in looks, charming, funny and feminine or a 122 IQ who’s a 7, argumentative, educated beyond her abilities and thus difficult to deal with? I think the choice is clear.

    And if she happens to “have it all”, great. But that basically describes your Megyn Kelly TV lawyer-type babes, and they are statistically insignificant and unreachable for most men.

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  152. on March 4, 2010 at 1:48 am Cam

    I beg to differ with what you’re saying. I was unemployed for 4 months last year and now I’m currently unemployed and during unemployment I get more action than when I’m employed. It’s a very strange phenomenon indeed. But, I bang a lot of hipster chicks so that probably has something to do with it. Although I do have a date with a lawyer next week.

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  153. on March 4, 2010 at 1:53 am unlearning genius ...

    @Roissy,

    “it’s beginning to feel like a chore.”
    Yo, Just have a few open threads man. That way, folks can still keep talking and you will get the juices flowing again … You are welcome.

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  154. on March 4, 2010 at 2:44 am too late for romance

    Washington DC is Hollywood for ugly people.

    Money is the only reason to be here. There are piles to be made sucking from the government tit. So keep paying those income taxes suckas!

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  155. on March 4, 2010 at 3:59 am Jack (the original)

    Ah yes, feminist career women who think that their educations and jobs make them more attractive to men. I go to law school so I am very familiar. Eventually they get knocked down a few pegs, but why the fuck does it take so long? As stated otherwise, men mostly don’t give a shit about it as long as she’s not a crack whore. Some jobs (lawyer, banker, etc.) would be a negative for men. So why aren’t these women more humble and desperate instead of overrating themselves? Mediocre law school girls here in NYC think they’re the shit and don’t understand that they’re not.

    DC vs. NYC. The few times I’ve been in DC I met attractive friendly women. Much more friendly than any remotely attractive chick in NYC. Smaller sample size though; I don’t know if this is generally true.

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  156. on March 4, 2010 at 4:13 am the dude

    “psycho
    You are all fucking stupid idiots. Bitch, moan, bitch, complain, bitch, moan, talk talk talk talk.

    You all do realize there are actually men in this world who are building something other than their internet social life?

    No different than a baby sucking his thumb.”

    My take is they got hurt some time in the past. Haven’t learnt not to care.

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  157. on March 4, 2010 at 5:04 am Anonymous

    GdI says: “The guys that beta-civvies have no chance against are the 35-45 year old divorced and angry military guys who are out for pussy in a serious way.”

    Hey, I resemble that remark. F*ckin’-A!

    And: “Worse, many are saddled with the white knight complex from mom, church, society, etc.”

    Well, f*ck. We’re in the business of killing bad guys, etc. to defend women and children, etc., occupational hazard.

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  158. on March 4, 2010 at 5:05 am Some_guy

    Some Guy’s maxim #10231

    Every guy thinks there is something special about his area that makes women different.

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  159. on March 4, 2010 at 6:38 am john

    Don’t quit writing this blog. This stuff is great.

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  160. on March 4, 2010 at 6:39 am Laura

    Novaseeker,

    I too have a son in public school and I can see what you mean a little about some of the programming to make boys unmanly. I have personally not found anything too extreme or offensive, however. They are very big on feelings and I sometimes think they need to give the touchy feely stuff a rest. They stress the importance children treating other children with respect, something I think many kids learn at home anyway. I don’t believe they are intentionally trying to make boys unmanly, though, just that most of them are women and think that way.
    I think you can balance it out a lot by what you tell them at home. I try to find books with good examples of men being men.

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  161. on March 4, 2010 at 6:59 am Laura

    Vince,

    I’m 35 and getting older for a woman is tough. It’s hard to come to the realization that men aren’t that attracted to you anymore. The fact the so many woman do manage to age gracefully and get on with their lives is to their credit. I think Roissy said this once, that it helps if a woman has a family to take care of. That’s so true. Once you have children, it’s not really about you anymore and so you can focus on something other than the fact that as Roissy says you are hitting the wall. At 35 I still feel pretty healthy and vital, I just can’t prance around like I’m some pretty, young thing. The middle ages of a woman’s life are when she should be taking care of other people.

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  162. on March 4, 2010 at 7:19 am anoukange

    Women who want careers can have them, women who want kids should stay at home and raise them and go back into the work force after they have grown enough to do so. Working part-time from home as a freelancer is the best route I have concluded after many years of exploring the topic.

    There are some on this thread that seem to be spoon-fed absolutely every last thought in their brain. Too much TV will do that.

    There are plenty of women in the US that wish to have a traditional relationship dynamic with their man, family and home, they are in long terms and not out meeting the bitter men in bars.

    If you are bitter, male or female, you have lost in life. Fail.

    DC does not hide that careers are made here, it does not pretend to be anything other than what it is….a cog in the machine in corporate ladder climbing.

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  163. on March 4, 2010 at 7:19 am the dude

    in europe you see da care centres emerging that let boys be boys, i.e. no intervention in fights, let them try to dominate, fight for hierarchy in their group – because 30yrs of focussing on women manily had people neglect a proper educational toolset for boys (more active, more competitive for example).
    In fact the chance is high boys in day care centres never see male pedagogics (though the way those are trained today is maybe more harmful).
    So Laura is right, it is a neglect of specific methods designed for boys being guided from the female perspective that let to the wrong policies in place.
    And in addition more and more boys grow up without their fathers – but they are immensely important as fathers treat their sons differently than mothers do. But being “manly” has become a negative, and this is what needs to change.
    But the results show up in studies now (Oxford University) leading to goverments putting in place specific policies for men.

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  164. on March 4, 2010 at 8:39 am Carl

    Roissy,

    Your talents at this are unrivaled. But, I think you’re selling your time and efforts short doing this wordpress thing. Write a book and make some money.

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  165. on March 4, 2010 at 8:46 am the dude

    can you deal with collapse?
    http://energybulletin.net/node/23259

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  166. on March 4, 2010 at 8:47 am Experienced Father

    Roissy,

    Your friend Zeets just made the Republican National Committee’s day.

    Zeets just found some very strong circumstantial evidence of Chicago, Ill style public finances at work in DC.

    Non-Government Organizations (NGOs) are where the Democrats park their talent, their relatives and their groupies.

    The last time Democrats were in majority control in 1992-94, DC area NGOs grew like Kudzu as Federal government money flowed through them, making the line between Federal worker and NGO very nebulous at Wash DC mid-level to policy making slots.

    Any single woman with a graduate degree in DC could and did get a job, and many hopped from NGO, to Federal agency to NGO to yet another Federal job.

    This report means it is not happening this time, with a whole lot more Federal cash is getting thrown around.

    This very strongly suggests to me some Chicago style, multi-generation, one party government, sharing and greed issues with public finances.

    Something that the Republican Congressional investigators can have a field day with with majority control of either House of the Federal Congress.

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  167. on March 4, 2010 at 8:50 am epiclolz

    “game trumps unemployment….. any unemployed man who has a good take on the situation will still be able to pull.”

    Much less so. Maybe a temporarily unemployed man. One of the ingredients to male status is that of a provider (along with protectors, and leaders).

    I’d have to agree with the former….. in my experience the scenario of “unemployed guy with game + successful female = epic win”

    Also I think that the last thing most guys want to flaunt is ‘provider status’…… perhaps you mean ‘HALF’ status. (think eddie murphy)

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  168. on March 4, 2010 at 9:01 am biktopia

    I don’t believe it doesn’t matter to men if the women is uneducated on the long run, but yes, guys cannot stand a bloated ego that sprung out of some distorted misbelief that a high degree can compensate the important other factors such as a well taken care off body.

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  169. on March 4, 2010 at 9:08 am the dude

    as long as the funtion of
    1) how hot is she
    2) how hot is she
    3) how hot is she
    4) how fresh is she

    shows the correct values, I can deal with a education-bloated ego

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  170. on March 4, 2010 at 9:48 am biktopia

    The problem lies in if he/she is not hot but has a education bloated ego…

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  171. on March 4, 2010 at 10:17 am the dude

    then only the first part counts, the latter disappears in a void

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  172. on March 4, 2010 at 10:30 am gunslingergregi

    ””””””’PA
    60 American paratroopers to hit the dance floor, strip their shirts to show their worked-out torsos

    We at least know that much: he watched a bunch of military dudes taking off their shirts and fancied them all gay.
    ””””””’

    for the fucking win. hahahahhaha

    There is definetly something gay about rockefeller wtf

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  173. on March 4, 2010 at 10:37 am gunslingergregi

    I think right on the unemployed thing I am surrounded now by nice looking in shape woman he he he

    but yea less money equals less food equals more kids equals tons of nice looking young woman all over. Wierd how it works that way.

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  174. on March 4, 2010 at 4:30 pm john

    Laura-so you want to become a feminist,do you? Well,you’ll need to brush up on this: http://www.hotgoo.com/watch/5900

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  175. on March 5, 2010 at 2:52 am jerkdogg

    I strongly prefer smart and ambitious women. I like a chick who can push bav

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  176. on March 5, 2010 at 9:53 pm mgtow

    Go ahead and date those goldigging cunts. But remember, to quote Tom Leykis, to never let them have the keys to your vault. Limit dates to $40, lesser or free is optimal. DTB if she does not put out by the 3rd date.

    Also, you do not need to have tons of money to bang chicks; all you need to have is a good story that *hints subtly* at your wealth. Women will lap that shit up.

    And yes, with the economy going down the toilet, women have lowered the expectations bar a lot in their vain attempts to strike the meal ticket/ring bearer/sperm contributor jackpot. That means more bang for us men who play the field.

    The meat is out, the hunting season is on. Happy hunting, and show no mercy.

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  177. on March 7, 2010 at 4:31 pm Bronx347

    There seems to be some kind of declaration of triumph here but then you hit us with this VERY telling statement:

    “It’s no secret that DC women are full of themselves. 4s think they’re 7s, 7s think they’re 9s, and cunty lawyers waving their big vocabularies and multiple degrees think they’re supermodels. I’ve discussed many reasons why women would be prone to overestimating their looks. Now you can add unemployment to the list of factors that influence how a woman perceives her mating value.”

    So, let me get this straight, we’re crowing over some below-average looking chicks, is times that hard???

    I mean getting reject by some busted-out cheeseburger cheetahs should be a moment of slapstick not heartbreak; and how many of these desperate non-housewives got kids for you to babysit while they get their nails done?

    C’mon, son…

    Thirsty simpin’ can only lead to self-destruction in the long haul; better men make better choices, bottom line. Just sayin’…

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  178. on March 9, 2010 at 12:47 pm Martian Bachelor

    Women, and a lot of men, are stricken by a psychological disease known as projection. What women find attractive in a man is what they think men find attractive in them.

    This is exactly the source of the oft-heard phrase about how “men are intimidated by smart, successful, yada, yada, women”.

    Because they are attracted to men with status, they think men’s attraction to women should be based on the same thing, so confused are they about the ramifications of equality.

    This is as nutty and out of touch with reality as it would be if I were to point to my wonderful hair, great legs, and bluest of eyes, and then accusingly lament that supermodels aren’t drawn to me as being their “equal” – WTF is wrong with them?

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  179. on March 9, 2010 at 8:11 pm Vincent Ignatius

    Women, and a lot of men, are stricken by a psychological disease known as projection. What women find attractive in a man is what they think men find attractive in them.

    This article gets at the same point.

    http://www.the-spearhead.com/2010/01/12/eternal-solipsism-of-the-female-mind/

    This is exactly the source of the oft-heard phrase about how “men are intimidated by smart, successful, yada, yada, women”.

    I find this hilarious, because there are so few woman at my end of the IQ distribution. Even the average Ivy league degree holding female will still be well below me in intelligence. I’ve never felt intimidated by someone’s intelligence. I’ve met plenty of people smarter than me and admired them, but never felt inadequate because of it.

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