Funny. A commenter included a link to my blog in the first or second comment to this Slate article about omega males, and Slate deleted it.
“In the end, the truth always wins out – one way or the other.”
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March 19, 2010 by CH
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The Feminist Comissariat can only keep up the charade for so long. In the end, the truth will always come out. Like it is for this feminist Massachusetts State Senator blocking alimony reform there:
http://massachusetts-election-2010.com/2010/03/09/cynthia-creem-faces-ethics-questions-over-alimony-reform/
This is a photo of Senator Cold Stone Creemery with her fellow pals at the Women’s Bar Association (which also opposes said reform):
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@Puma
Yikes, Politics truly is Hollywood for the Ugly.
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The thing that strikes me about that article, like most trend pieces done by feminists, is how much they talk about movie and tv show characters. Talk about being in fucking la-la land.
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i can’t decide what i think of that article. on the one hand it’s good news that a left-leaning, drenched in feminism, mainstream outlet like Slate is even writing about these things. on the other hand, the indoctrination is so deep that this writer really has very little understanding of the relevant phenomenon.
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In light of your fantastic rewrite of that article about the girl who left her loser husband, you should do a counter-take to this article, maybe profiles of the various types of cunts we see today–self-entitled princesses, tankgrrl lawyer bitches, etc. Then again, your post about what a girl’s job says about her probably fits the bill nicely.
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truth,
good point. it always amazes me how journos write as if what you see on TV and in movies is real life. all of this stuff is written by a statistically tiny portion of the population; a group of upper-middle class, SWPLers living in two or three cities.
it’s like how everybody in TV and movies uses a MacBook, even non-creative business types or people who are supposed to be broke. i don’t see how these people who fancy themselves as “cultural critics” can’t even realize their own cultural myopia.
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Yep. I always win. Deal.
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The truth is hard to find, but the supply has always exceeded the demand.
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Feminist puff piece drinking game. What are the rules? Any mention of Sex in the City requires a shot. That will get you drunk so I’m not sure what other rules we’d need.
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Though the article is pretty much about fictional characters, I think that it does represent our current society in some way, as I see these same exact omega “characters” all the time in real life, they do exist.
Movies tend to be representative of the overall view of the current times.
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@Matt Savage
Yes, this is true, but we again see why 90% of females are unable to find the real story here. Instead we get “feelings” about fictional characters. The real story has been examined mostly by sites like this, mgtow-type sites as well as Glen Sacks (sp?).
The real story is how sexual market changes resulted from lax sexual mores, feminism, plastics (xeno-estrogens and PCB), homone-laden food, and the steady loss of blue collar jobs. Omega men are here in ever greater numbers because we have a perfect storm destroying everything we were tought to know of manhood. I’m glad I stumbled on sites like these years ago, opening my eyes to how bad decisions and assumptions about women was fucking my life up – and how to avoid it.
I turn 35 this year, no debt, no wife, no kids, getting out of the army and getting a big salary contracting job. I’m still a recovering beta in some ways, but the play I’m getting from women these days is awesome.
Some of my buddies, well, they are those lonley omegas. The guys that just never got it or never fucking cared. Compared to some of my married buddies working really hard to raise crotch fruit (if they even have a job) I’m not sure if being a married beta is better than a dude playing Xbox all day and whacking it to internet porn.
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I’m not sure what a homone is, but it’ll probably give you teh ghey. (hormones)
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Slate got butthurt.
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””””””Dat_Truth_Hurts
I turn 35 this year, no debt, no wife, no kids, getting out of the army and getting a big salary contracting job. I’m still a recovering beta in some ways, but the play I’m getting from women these days is awesome.””””””’
You are almost there ain’t ya to the finish line?
Those contracting jobs don’t usually come with retirement benefits got to make your own which can suck to an extent unless you have an iron will.
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Fuck the article, read the whiney, defeated comments at the bottom from the cuddle-bitch boys still trapped in the Matrix. That’s the real truth in the article.
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http://green.yahoo.com/blog/guest_bloggers/26/the-world-s-only-immortal-animal.html
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I don’t need retirement benefits. I’ll be dead from partying too hard in my 60’s.
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The rest of us commenters should go there and keep posting various Roissy articles there. Let’s see them try to delete 3, 5, or 10 of them.
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The only good feminist is the one locked in my basement.
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Compared to some of my married buddies working really hard to raise crotch fruit (if they even have a job) I’m not sure if being a married beta is better than a dude playing Xbox all day and whacking it to internet porn.
For the most part it isn’t any worse, but it does depend on the woman the guy is married to. There are a few exceptional women who make good long-term mates — there just aren’t very many of them in this culture because of the values this culture is instilling in young women.
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It’s a wussy article, they over emphasise the proffessional inadequacy of an omega male while failing to realise that many jobless men these days are perfectly happy with their lives and getting plenty of pussy, and living the life of an alpha while a lot of guys are working their asses off in middle of the road jobs getting raped in divorce court and dragged through hoops and expensive dates by high maintenance gold-digging bitches. If alpha equals having a nagging harpy of a wife and being under constant threat of divorce then i’d rather not have any of that pie. I kind of hope Goldiggers and divorce thieves look at me, think me a bum/omega and then keep on walking unless they want some pump and dumpage.
Good career no longer equals alpha, if anything it can be a weight around your neck attracting gold diggers, divorce thieves and beta ball busters.
Jobless guys have so much time to chase tail.
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Hell, I’ve been hitting the iron hard for my entire duration of Army life. I may just bartend/bounce when I get out. I’m even thinking about using that new post 9/11 GI bill that pays tuition, housing and books to get a degree in something easy and loaded with chicks.
That is a 1-2 pussy pounding lifestyle. Omega my ass.
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@Dat truth hurts
aha i spent 7 years getting an engineering degree from 18-25 at a prestigious british institution, my high school grades and performance for university of manchester rugby team were so good they never even considered chucking me out, gave me chance after chance. tuition is cheap in england so i only ended up in about 7 grand extra debt. debt I retook my first year 3 times pretty much on purpose because i was getting so much play and having so much fun fucking around with drink drugs and bitches. I graduated got myself a cushy job and paid all my debts in barely a year.
I promptly quit and now im working a more interesting, less time intense job but with lower pay. I don’t really even feel a need or any urgency to up the ante with regards to my career and im considering quiting my current job and persueing something totally different. I always had this nagging feeling i HAD to do what the education system told me i was good at. Fuck that noise. I don’t even want to pay anymore taxes till i get the fuck out of this country, travelled in america for a bit and im now planning to relocate somewhere hot, sunny, cheap and where the fly bitches fly by and catch my eye every friggin minute.
Heck i might even do another degree for the lifestyle, jack some more government money and THEN bail out. Expatriating cancels student debt over here which is mighty convenient.
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Okay, I’m unemployed and have dim prospects (including a liberal arts degree). I *am* being bankrolled by my SO, for over 2 years now. Oh, and occasional daytime hookups off CL…
According to the Slate article I’m solidly Omega. According to this site, maybe not.
[editor: correct. if you are unemployed with a sugar mama and getting some piece on the side (assuming the piece isn’t a beached whale) then you are well above an omega male.]
I have no idea what to think (or if I even care).
I love this blog though; I found it through the Slate comment (before it was deleted).
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i just realised I AM VAN WILDER, and im tanker than ryan reynolds.
Thats alpha.
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Omeganization of men happens in every society that adopts the feminine as its archetype.
But that is the overriding tendency. Alpha males are still selectively utilized for enforcement (of feminine laws against the omeganized male majority), professional sports (fantasy, choreographed alpha behavior who castrated males can vicariously live through — kind of like an indoor cat experiencing the wild via watching Animal Planet on TV), corporate chieftains (who bitch slap both female and omega male subordinates into ongoing obedience and compliance), etc…
What can turn this around for men? Perhaps:
#1
Primitive living. Avoid all modern factory food and beverages. They’re loaded with chemicals to purposely neuter, confuse, and demoralize you. Soft living makes you, well, soft. Weak men don’t do well against alpha enforcers.
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Exercise. Pumps up testosterone. Physical strength builds confidence in men.
#3
Walking relaxation and conscious gaming. The best male leaders throughout history (i.e., those who inspire men around them to follow) are relaxed and neg (make light of) everything around them. Objectively these men are extraordinarily competent, effective, and productive. Their verve let’s them operate on a higher level (elan) than their groupie schlup cohort. They tease females without mercy to make it clear, in no uncertain terms. who is the boss. This practiced life becomes an art.
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I’m 2 yrs removed from college, broke as shit and still trying to figure out what I want to do with my life.
Fuck that Slate article, I ain’t no Omega.
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Dat_Truth_Hurts: I agree with you about the article having so many references to movies and TV characters. Its fun to do that once in a while in a humorous fashion, but their entire article is based on fictional characters. That’s scarier than anything else mentioned here.
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“I’m not sure if being a married beta is better than a dude playing Xbox all day and whacking it to internet porn.”
Is occasional sex worth slavery?
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What post did the commenter link to?
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I had to sit and think about what the article was trying to say, because it is seemingly without a point or argument.
It seems like this article is mostly just an expression of contempt for men the author is unattracted to. At first I thought the point was to shame omegas into conformity, but the title clarifies. In that context, the “they’re everywhere” recalls some European wishing they could just shovel those loathsome gypsies into ovens and be done with it.
Imagine how annoyed you’d be if suddenly your beloved pop culture began to feature fat chicks. “Cropping up” indeed.
I find it funny the author laments how men are “still tragically unable to retool,” and yet slate deletes the roissy link.
And yet women are still tragically unable to lose weight.”
Ahaha
Somehow this article really reinforced for me how most women lack even a shred of self-understanding. Scary.
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Alpha males>Beta males>Omega males>Zeta males (furries)
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Women HATE HATE HATE Omega males. And betas too!
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Roissy,
A wise man once said, “Women don’t like men. Queers like men. Women like money.”
Thank you for this oasis in cyberspace.
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imagine this title: fat chicks and old women and the men that hate them. so who hates more?
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Dat Truth
Well done. Let’s add to that list:
What has most effected women that therefore affects men
* Social isolation, atomization, and the anonymity of urban living (allowing for anonymous slutty behaviour)
* The service economy giving women economic independance
* Birth control including abortion and abortifactants
What has most effected men by virtue of female social control
* A feminized media (goes under the heading of feminist influence, but also has more insiduous roots – market forces and the innate femme-collective will to oppose male power; “Oh my Gawd! I can’t believe you said that! I’m writing a letter!”)
* Social isolation, atomization, and the anonymity of urban living (allowing for a lack of community male role models)
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I was going to ammend the second category heading, but then thought about it. Isn’t the female hysteria against child molestation really a form of deliberately atomizing culture? Of making men seem untrustable, of a divide and conquer strategy?
Why did a sense of community disappear from our suburbias? How much of it is a female bid to divide and conquer? To diminish all spheres of influence, including and especially the group social that includes men?
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What’s the deal with the rename to Citizen Renegade? Seems uncharacteristically Internet Tough Guy.
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Roissy: As a recent college grad just starting my post college life/job I can’t thank you enough for the job you do giving me so much insight into the true nature of women. I have been reading your blog for the about a year and it has made me think in ways that I never would have though of before reading your blog.
Keep up the good work and realize that all the work you do on this blog is definitely appreciated. Thanks.
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@SFG
Nothing is worth slavery. I learned game because I was tired of being hit or miss getting laid. Now it isn’t an issue, because I’ve got options. Hell, I’m deployed in a non-combat zone but still in the middle east, and I’ve got a little Air Force tail I’m running through.
I’m just speculating on some guys I know, in the Army, that get off work and go play WoW for hours in the barracks. You probably see this at colleges too, or a working 20-something living at home.
One of my soldiers did that for awhile. He was still able to pass PT tests (close to minimum, but a pass), showed up at the right time in the right uniform and was a good technician. He did not want to get promoted to an NCO, happily staying a Specialist (highest non-command rank in the army). He dropped out because he was socially awkward and seemed happy. I later learned he liked to frequent the rub-n-tug in town, so he was (sorta) getting action, probably better than anything he could get short of working his ass off on game.
Now, would this guy be happier as a married dude with small kids and a fat wife? Just for the occasional piece of (sloppy) ass?
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Roissy’s blog, including a small but valuable proportion of its readers’ submissions, is the best single resource on the Web today for counteracting the brainwashing we’ve all grown up with concerning the real nature of women. But the individual who wants truly to see both men AND women for what they really are, all self-kidding removed, must read Mencken — starting with “In Defense of Women” which has already been mentioned in the comments to a recent post. Read it online:
http://www.gutenberg.org/dirs/1/2/7/1270/1270-h/1270-h.htm
Roissy himself, I feel certain, would approve of the idea that both sexes must be placed under the same glaringly-lighted microscope; consider his post of Mar. 10 2010, “Why Do Conservatives Sanctify Women?”: Roissy’s essential point was simply this: “Women are vile creatures at heart, just as men are.”
So if you are willing to entertain the idea that just possibly, someone on Earth may have wisdom on this topic equal to or (horrors!) perhaps even superior to your own, you cannot consider yourself seriously informed without having read this little book by Mencken.
And for those of you who wish to go further, and remove the last tiniest scales from your eyes, I recommend, as the final, harshest medicine, the Red pill if you will, “What Is Man?” by Mark Twain (one of Mencken’s few real heroes by the way):
http://classiclit.about.com/library/bl-etexts/mtwain/bl-mtwain-whatisman.htm
(The piece by Twain is not particularly long, but it is necessary to read it all way through. If you just dip into it here and there you WILL misunderstand it. Just a warning.)
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Interesting name change, will this be the start of a new direction for the site?
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Hi Roissy,
I only recently started reading your blog and enjoy it a lot, but I don’t get some of the terms and slang(because english isn’t my first language)
I have a question about this post. Are you saying it’s a good thing or a bad thing that the link was deleted? Because I looked for a definition of Omega male and it’s pretty much the same as an alpha male right?
thanks
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First episode of new South Park season deals with Tiger Woods, sex addiction. Cause: Alien-Wizard Spell.
http://s-p-s-14-e-1.blogspot.com/
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What strikes me most about the comments here is how nobody is saying they tried commenting at Slate and *also* got deleted. Were 5 or 10 other comments also deleted or did noone else even bother to try?
This lack of interest in “getting the message out” is what I see as the biggest flaw in the Roissy following.
@Roissy Please keep guys heading outward to pepper varioius articles with comments.
Now wasn’t the Slate authoress inspired by Roissy to use the term “Omega Male” in the first place?
Any insight as to why Roissy’s comment was deleted, other than the obvious one (that the left wingers are very aware of PUAs and MRAs and do not want them to have their say)?
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By the way, while it is part of Roissy’s charm to not be search engine friendly, it would rake in a ton more traffic if his article titles included key words that are most often searched for. For instance, this article could have been Nyah Nyah I Can’t Hear You! Feminist Moderators at Salon Magazine Delete References to Pro-Male Blogs. The article would then pop up in more Google Alerts and tons of people would see a synopsis of the message of his post in Google results without even clicking through.
Similarly, at the bottom of each article, Roissy woefully omits “Share this on Facebook” buttons or even “Digg This” or StumbleUpon buttons which have been shown to increase traffic logorithmically (a hit article on one of the latter two sites could get 2000 extra readers in a flash). Of course, if Roissy was on more social media himself (anonymously of course), he would be upping his traffic simply by posting the existence of each of his new articles on various venues, and many of these postings would become separate Google search results with separate keyword combinations – drastically upping the chances that surfers will find the original article.
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Another example “Tiger’s Texts – Tiger Woods, Feminism & the Alpha Male”. That would preserve the coolness of the original name but also get the full Tiger Woods keyword phrase + “feminism” high on real-time searches for those subjects.
Another trick is, if you want to influence the idiot investors who apparently bought and paid for Jezebel to belong to the same Media Group as Gawker and Slate, you would slip their names or the group name into an article title or two, which would get the Roissy article into the email inboxes (via Google Alerts, etc) of those in Silicon Valley and New York who are now deciding what the new media world will look like.
It is easy for them to say “I can’t hear you” while we guys just do blogs as a hobby and don’t bring the big guns of search engine optimization and social media optimization to play (Roissy is still doing extremely well in search engine results for major keywords).
And then there is the topic of creating a more PG rated blog where some of the best R and X rated blog posts are toned down for sharing in a manner that won’t get the sharers fired (although everyone should have some anonymous identities with separate email addresses and social media accounts) and/or will be unhesitatingly shared by a lot of people. A “Roissy Tamed” or “Roissy PG” blog would serve as an advertisement for the real thing and greatly expand the search engine footprint of the message.
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FUN FACT: Even the chance of having 1 sexual encounter with 1 6+ is more Alpha than being married to a Fat/Frigid bitch.
An unmarried Beta is always more Alpha than a married one. Because he has a little thing hope.
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Bock, being fat or old is a physical condition that people don’t have much if any choice about. Being fat or not, one has some level of control over, but only if they’re getting accurate information, which most people aren’t.
Being omega in personality may not be a choice any more than being fat is, but it’s perceived to be a matter of choice or decision. So, like fat chicks, omega males are going to catch a lot of flack for not being able to live up to others’ expectations.
In many ways, the situations are very similar because usually we’re not talking about people who are particularly deviant. They’re just not able to succeed while at the same time conforming in other areas.
So, my answer for omega males who aren’t so because of some real deal biological problem, is the same as my answer to fat chicks:
Free your mind.
Following the herd is not doing anything good for you. You’re playing a game in which you’re a loser by default. Your only way out is to look for ways to change your situation that aren’t on the well worn paths.
If you can manage this, then you’re not really any more omega than many fat chicks are “genetically fat”.
You, like them, just ate a lot of crap that is viewed as “normal” but isn’t optimal.
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“They’re unemployed, romantically challenged, and they’re everywhere.”
A female writer unironically describes what she sees on TV as if it was sociology. Hilarious.
It kind of reminds me of Whiskey’s blog. But Whiskey has kind of a chick mind too.
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we’re expendable. most people would be better off never having been born.
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Ah no! Don’t think like that. The question is whether or not other people would be better off if you had never been born.
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I’m in my late twenties, cant hold a job down because I refuse to be owned by someone else, do not comform to social norms, nor do I believe in the mainstream way of life because its full of bullsht, and in many ways I seem to be uncontrollable and live in my own world, so according to this lady this means I’m an omega?
But heres the problem, every woman that runs into me wants to f… the sht out of me.
While I may not be materially endowed, I am an entrepreneur who wants to change the world (women l.o.v.e this), and I keep myself in top condition.
My point is people are far too diverse to have stereotypes placed on them.
Doing what you believe in and not caring what anyone else thinks is the most alpha trait out there.
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Don’t take this the wrong way Aussie, but your description of yourself also fits a lot of asocial, mentally-ill losers. I sincerely doubt your claim about every woman. Every? Really?
You could be a rock star, or the next Bill Gates. You could also be seriously delusional.
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@Nicole:
What if it is even deeper than that, Nicole? What if Omegatude is a symptom of a much larger problem. For example, I have often looked at women and thought I was looking at a man. Do you remember Jerry Seinfeld’s show where he dated a woman with Man-hands?
What if Omegatude is a reaction to not finding women attractive? I have just finished reading an article in which the author posits that viagra was invented so that men could be artificially attracted to women. I have most definitely observed women with husky, baritone voices, man-hands, broad shoulders and narrow hips, small breasts, excessive work-out regimens at the gym, and tribal arm-band tattoos on the shoulder. You know the type I’m talking about right? Well, it is hard to actually *want* to be a classical male around these women -dashing, outgoing and chivalrous.
Omegatude is a biological phenomenon in reaction to the muscular masculinization of the female gender.
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@jacko
I get what you are saying, im relatively good looking so a lot of women show initial interest in me until i crush it with often INTENTIONAL beta behaviour.
A lot of women would like to believe i have no interest in them because i am “Beta”, inexperienced or just plain cold. Anything but accept that THEY are the ones who are too unnattractive to provoke any kind of reaction out of me. They often think they are putting me in the friend zone, when in reality that is where i am putting them.
Some of the reactions I get from female friends/acquintance when they see me gaming a hot girl hard and pulling cuties at the bar. It’s like they didn’t know i was capable of it and are jealous they can’t have a piece!!!
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“Citizen Renegade”
What’s the deal with the name change?
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“Omegatude is a biological phenomenon in reaction to the muscular masculinization of the female gender.”
Ding! Ding! Ding! Jacko wins the prize for most perceptive comment here. What was the blog you were reading that talked about Viagra?
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Remember the guy who said a few weeks ago that Viagra was marketed as a way to keep men married to women they were no longer sexually attracted to. Or was that me who said that. A reference was made to the bullshit ads that show a good looking older guy with a shapeless blob of a partner.
The powers that be would also like to think we single guys would take it so we would be OK with dating women are own age. As if.
Roissy then adopted the phrase “Natural Viagra” in a post that stated women 18-21 are natural viagra in that, in their presence, a man who cannot get it up with older women, has NO PROBLEM at all.
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Memo
To: Nicole
Re: Fat
Dear Ms. Nicole:
This memo is to inform you that fat is a chemical your body produces when there is extra energy available in your diet, that is, energy not required for immediate use.
When your energy intake is reduced, or energy use rises, say with exercise, this chemical “fat” is utilized as an energy source.
A certain amount of fat is normal and quite healthy. Healthy people maintain their weight. It might seem effortless, but to most people it is not. In our society we have to make a conscious choice not to over eat.
Obesity occurs when a person refuses to regulate their energy intake and use, thus storing increasing amounts of fat.
An obese woman (or man) sends the message that they don’t care if they look bad, feel bad, smell bad, are repulsive in intimate situations, are limited in their physical abilities, and are predisposing themselves to a large number of diseases (heart disease, liver disease, kidney disease, cancer, degenerative joint disease, and others). They have elevated eating above most other human activities, including physical survival.
Obesity is purely voluntary.
Now, what would any rational man think when he sees an obese woman?
That’s the memo.
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“Women as a result of unnatural exercise are developing broader shoulders, more muscular bodies, narrower hips and smaller breasts. We also flood their minds with birth control methods. This mutation of their bodies and psyches makes them less desirable to mate with; consequently we have witnessed booming sales of chemical sexual stimulants to men.”
That is an excerpt from an article I read recently. I’m not a follower of said author, I found him from reading the Thinking Housewife blog.
Here is the link:
http://mensaction.blogspot.com/2010/01/avatar-gender-perspective.html
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Jacko
Except that most women today do little of any sort of strenuous exercise, un-natural or not, and have more fat and fatty boob-size than ever in history.
Find some crowd scene photos from the 1950s and earlier. Very few fatties are in evidence and none of them are young people. Believe it or not, they belonged to the same species as todays lardus maximus homo sapiens.
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Jacko, you’re probably onto something.
When I look at old photos of women before the 80’s I see plenty of chunkiness, but not a whole lot of masculinity. That, despite the world being just as dangerous a place if not more than it is now.
Here’s an example:
You’re male, so you can see what a woman who wasn’t an artist would in that photo.
Grampa, if obesity is optional then that would make all obese people independent thinkers. There is no social reward outside of a few niches for being excessively fat. So if you’re right, being fat would be something like wearing your nietzschean pride and holding up a cold middle finger to the silly self depriving masses.
As much as I would love to believe that is true, as it would raise my own self perceived cool factor tremendously, I have lived it, so I think you’re full of it.
I also think calorie counting as opposed to primal or near-primal nutrition is a sign of confomity obsession. People who take that road are usually miserable cunts who get off on their martyrdom for the sake of a crackhead beauty ideal.
I don’t find a guy with the skin of a jellyfish and the attitude of a lemming particularly attractive.
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http://cache.jezebel.com/assets/resources/2007/10/jessicastaffphoto1101507.jpg Here is the dipshit that wrote the article. Nice,eh? And yet there will be men pining after her,pretending to be impressed with her gruesome “wit” and “outlandish” personality…zzzzzzz. The stupidest thing in the article was her offhand refernec to “sexist” ads in the Super bowl. I hate anyone that uses that stupid-assed word. Aaargh!
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Ack! correction: You’re male, so you can see what a woman who wasn’t an artist *wouldn’t* in that photo.
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To Nicole: Nice pic of the ladies in the fields. Uhmm,was this the inspiration for the “Coneheads” skit?
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TV is created by and for women. Does it reflect reality? It reflects what WOMEN perceive as reality. Therefore it is a window into the collective of both female taste-makers and the mass female audience.
Is it reality? It shapes what half the population sees as reality. What is really interesting is how men have dropped out of feminized culture. No surprise. But it leaves both sexes really unable to deal with each others expectations. Men generally don’t get the idea that they’re playing a scripted role of either Mr. Big in Sex and the City, Sparkly vampires, Jim from the Office, Don Draper, or Dwight Schrulte. Women don’t have a clue that most men don’t watch or care about that stuff, and often pedestalize them as madonnas or whores.
Notice the beef in the article: its the men status/behavior not physique that ticks them off.
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Rum, very few people were excessively fat back then, but there were plenty who would be technically overweight and obese in the classes of people who could afford to eat regularly.
My grandparents couldn’t afford to eat what most westerners would describe as regularly or enough, when they were kids. They lived on a combination of subsistence and what they earned as tenant farmers and then later in city jobs. My parents were a little better off, but not by much until they were in their teens.
One of the epigenetic results of malnutrition by starvation is a superefficient metabolism that is made to make the most out of any carbohydrates it gets. I found this out kind of the hard way, so my daughter and I can’t eat “healthy” according to the USDA and be a healthy weight. We have to eat like a combination of swamp people and fishermen to be a healthy weight.
…but where exactly were we supposed to get this information from? Much of it hadn’t even been discovered or scientifically confirmed until the past 5-10 years.
A good bit of it is still really anecdotal, and one wouldn’t know unless they were willing to listen to non scientists about their life experiences and discoveries about their personal medical needs and family’s needs.
The only people talking in public about the special dietary needs of African Americans until recently were crazy cultists.
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John, no that’s what real women who did real work, raised their own children, and shagged their own husband looked like.
If you want to see photos of some who still do, search for FLDS.
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@Nicole:
Well, just so you know where I am coming from, I am 40 and was on my way to greater betatude when I began to realize a lot of men I knew had been wiped out from divorce. They weren’t abusive or alcoholic -they were simply boring beta providers. So I basically asked myself, “What’s the point?”
I think this article points out that omegamen are just like that. An omegaman can never have a midlife crisis because he never had a life to begin with. All he does is play video games.
As for muscular women, I’ve never found them attractive. Opposites attract. Polarity is required. But then again, I am a little older. When I was younger of course I was hormonal. When I see a picture like the one you posted, I find those women attractive. What’s important is that they leave a lot to my imagination, which is sexy. Sex is cerebral, we all know that -not mechanical. A lot of guys will disagree with me. To each his own. Those women in the photo symbolize fertility, generosity, warmth, character and strength. I don’t see ‘fat’ women. Sadly, it is a world that is gone forever, as we all live now in atomized urban enclaves.
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CitizenRenegade, hmm when did this happen?
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Hahaha!
When you’re being censored, it’s because you’re making people scared.
Good work, friend.
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ITT: Social maladjusts and basement-dwellers who think their inability to conform makes them “unique” and therefore “alpha.”
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gunslinger –
“Those contracting jobs don’t usually come with retirement benefits got to make your own which can suck to an extent unless you have an iron will.”
Working a _job_ on contract is usually Wild West, yes…but if he’s talking about working for a contracting _firm_, especially a defense one, then there are normally tons of benefits – 401(k) matching, tuition stipends for continuing education, TONS of networking contacts that can lead you into other jobs, and a pay premium over doing the same kind of work as a government employee. (Not to mention access to security clearances and other esoterica that make you very valuable to certain sectors of the gov.)
Don’t get me wrong, there’s always a place at a contractor for a beta who wants to punch a clock (I’m looking at you, Boeing), but contractors are great halfway houses for ex-military types and others trying to bridge careers into a bigger better deal.
Let this be a warning to all the boys (and girls) on here: don’t EVER depend on a company’s retirement “benefits,” unless it’s the federal government who can print its own money. You need to have a functional retirement plan structured from your takehome pay. There’s just no guarantee the money will be there when you need it. Just like in sex, you GOTTA be responsible for yourself – depending on someone else to handle it is a recipe to get screwed.
You don’t really need an iron will – just set up your bank or payroll office to direct deposit a slice of your check into a retirement account. Odds are you won’t even notice the money’s gone unless you have really expensive tastes.
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What is up with Citizen Renegade? Did your site get jacked or something?
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Roissy, this is random, but thought you would enjoy:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-03-18/how-oscars-ruin-a-marriage/?
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[…] Posted in Uncategorized by Schopenhauer on March 20, 2010 Ronin, commenting over at Citizen Renegade (Roissy): “Women don’t like men. Queers like men. […]
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From Roissy to Citizen Renegade…I dig it…the natural transmutation of the alpha male by reinventing himself so that he is never put into a box as to keep others always on edge…and providing abundant gina tingles for the ladies.
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Nicole.
Todays breakfast for Rum: Two tuna sandwiches, lots of mayo and all the vegatable oil from the can. That is about the right mix, in my estimation.
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>> Citizen Renegade <<
Probably trying out a few names with without the regional baggage implicit in "Roissy in DC."
Matrix Laid Bare or Citizen Roissy may be better.
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Wow, that tattooed slut that Jesse James fooled around with is dishing out all the details. Personal text messages, e-mails, sex stuff – those women Tiger was with did the same thing.
Show’s how discreet and classy women are. Amazing the concern they have for the scorned wives, Elin and Sandra.
I don’t recall men doing shit like this, they usually keep the personal shit to themselves.
[editor: we are entering a new world order where even the alpha males are not safe from the predations of skank hos.]
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Looks like the links to Roissy are back up on the Slate article, or else new people posted comments linking to Roissy and the Slate censors let them through. (The links are in comments on March 20 at 18:21:24 and 13:33:31).
Maybe Grose herself wanted the links since I get the impression she’s read Roissy, and her article is intended as kind of a response. She copies his alpha-beta-gamma lingo, but twists it for her own purposes, specifically to make “omega” mean more or less “any man I, Jessica, do not like”.
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@ Nicole: Stop making bullshit excuses and justifications for your own lack of will.
You seem to think there is a dichotomy between being a fat arse quaffing down junk food and high carb processed food or else you must grow your own food and count calories.
Pull your head out of your arse and drop the female sophistry. If you know what primal living is then you know where to start.
This is a good a place as any for information:
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/
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“Citizen Renegade”… You gotta be kidding, Roissy.
[editor: why? i think it describes my life pretty accurately.]
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If it hasn’t been mentioned yet, there are several active links to this blog in the comments of the Slate article.
Just thought I would mention it.
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Lol 🙂
You certainly know how to generate a good controversy 🙂
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Breeze, if you would pull your head out of your ass, and read what I actually wrote rather than kneejerking based on your desire to infect me with your misery, you’d know I’ve been natty for a couple of years now, and have lost the weight equivalent of a first grader already.
Being healthy isn’t about the shit you talk. It’s about the shit you do.
I know one thing that isn’t healthy: having a stick up your ass.
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To those guys who are upset about the outsourcing of “American” jobs overseas, your solution is right there: follow the money.
It is the Internet and low airfares that lets US businesses outsource just as those two factors help US males outsource their girlfriends and wives as well. So it is not Bush or Obama or “evil businessmen in the Trilateral Commission”. You would “take jobs away from Americans” as well if you were living on the beach somewhere overseas dating a differnt 9 each night and you suddenly realized, as a small time entrepreneur, that mid-sized US companies would band together and pay you $4000 per month and pay for you to have a permanent room at the local Hyatt, if you could only recruit beautiful, articulate young women to run their customer support call center (a lot better for them to do than work at a phone sex center).
Be real. Sitting at home in Loserville isn’t alpha.
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I’m not upset at outsourcing; outsourcing is a natural result of high taxes, inflated wages (minimum wage is pure evil), regulations and government red tape. Unless you have a powerful lobby in DC, your company is better off elsewhere. This happens all the time, state to state in the USA. Go watch the “Saving Cleveland” series at Reason.com to see how much better Houston is than Cleveland at just about everything.
The US can get give the economy a huge boost by cutting corporate welfare and then eliminating corporate taxes all together. Also, a 5 year hiatus of the silly capital gains tax would be in order. Raiding taxes on companies just transfers the increased cost of doing business to the employees and consumers. Not that those retards in Washington DC care, they must crush the wealthy to support the downtrodden…
For me, an unmarried and childless man of 35 about to exit the Army, I will seek my fortunes where I see fit – contracting and leveraging my clearance to get buku money. I could care less about a 401k; I will invest a far share of my money in various offshore accounts and precious metals. In the eyes of many American women I may seem like an omega – but I have no interest in them. They are no match for foreign girls (my favorite is eastern European), hell most men find computer games more interesting then American women these days.
I am simply one of many men today that is not going to invest in America as it exists today. Until and unless this nation returns to its libertarian republic roots and does away with 90% of the baloney laws, regulations, stops pissing money away on the Drug war and in third world shit holes like Afghanistan, stays out of marriage, makes everyone pay taxes including those welfare fucks, and just stays the fuck out of our lives.
That won’t happen. I’ll see you guys overseas soon.
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the common theme of unemployment keeps popping up as if gainful employment was an actual measure of currency these days. I wonder if the writer got smashed by a string of ‘skittles men’ recently.
there seems to be serious logic fails going on too.
Its funny that she points out Don Draper as a ‘outdated’ male hero considering what she later writes for the rest of the logic fail article
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In response to your reply to Dude above, you had a great title before. “Roissy in DC” had an air of dark mystery about it. Contrast that with “Citizen Renegade” which is entirely too literal and a surprising choice coming from you. It sounds like something out of a comic book or perhaps a G.I. Joe action figure.
Beyond that you had established a brand with “Roissy in DC”. Unless you’re purposefully seeking to destroy that – in the interest of privacy, perhaps – I can’t see the reason for this move. In short, it’s a bad idea. Your “New Coke”. I would pull it off the shelf as soon as possible.
[editor: haha. the title is a work in progress. lemme think on this.]
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epiclolz,
“the common theme of unemployment keeps popping up as if gainful employment was an actual measure of currency these days. I wonder if the writer got smashed by a string of ’skittles men’ recently.”
Before he went off the air, Tom Leykis read an article on his show from the NY(B)T. The article cited numbers that marriage rates were falling in the bad economy, posited that women won’t marry guys who aren’t financially secure and guys without job security don’t hunt for wives, and went through a bunch of anecdotes to show what losers these guys were who couldn’t get wives.
But Leykis basically called the NYBT a liar by, um, reading the anecdotes, all of which involved happily single guys working away at their hobbies and scrambling for what work they could get, which went a lot farther with only one mouth to feed.
Methinks Grose and others cite unemployment because women don’t want to marry guys who are unstable in the pocketbook, and so women like Grose resent unemployed men for not bowing to their betatizing demands – men that can’t be controlled by the vagina. It’s the same as the Forbes column a couple of weeks ago where a woman chided “man-children” who didn’t want to get married.
Leykis took the article as evidence of the gold-digging nature of the modern American woman, and proof that marriage is about money and not love, despite what women tell him.
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Nicole,
“John, no that’s what real women who did real work, raised their own children, and shagged their own husband looked like.”
I like it.
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“I learned game because I was tired of being hit or miss getting laid. Now it isn’t an issue, because I’ve got options.”
The learning of game reminds me of the development in quarterbacks. As QBs start to “get it” (either in college or the pros) they sometimes say “the game is slowing down.” They can come to the line and know exactly what the defense wants to do, where the gaps are, what adjustments to make…they are no longer reacting to the game, they are dictating what happens. They aren’t “getting lucky” anymore, they have options.
Gurus of the position like Brady and Manning have mastered this.
Then whatever physical tools they have become all the more powerful, as they can be deployed against pressure points and fundamental weaknesses of the opponent, instead of (as normally happens with young QBs) the player’s physical skills allow them to get away with unsound decision.
Much like a physically attractive man can get away with less game than a short guy would need to succeed. When an intrinsically attractive guy learns game, he’s unstoppable.
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Susan Faludi wrote about this shit in a 9991 book Stiffed: The Betrayal of the American Man.
A woman.
11 fucking years ago.
That’s like Francesca Roosevelt still urging the troops on to vengeance for Pearl Harbor on December 7th, 1952.
The problem is, out of fear and apathy, Apatovian “Beerguys” aren’t compelled to enlist in a dangerous conflict threatening their mortal lives.
Less casualties + YouPorn = < Dudez
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Firepower,
The problem is that male society is racked with the following:
-White Knighters, who think they can get women’s attention by cutting down other men. These guys are clueless and refuse to notice how their tactics get them no tail.
-Cultural conservatives, who are invested in a false image of women as superior beings to men. Liberals can be this way, but this is a major problem in middle America as these types are represented among preachers and religious marriage counselors.
-Straight-up Betas who have bought cultural lies that women are less sexual than men, that they have to pay for it, that it is “a man’s duty” to provide for a sit-at-home, and that they just have to deal with it and be existentially frustrated.
So a functional male force cannot be built to advocate for male interests, because these interstitials fracture the union. To my young male peers, I actively advocate against (2) and (3) as I believe they have been ill-taught. I view (1)s as collaborators and so have no desire to smack them out of their funk.
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if this bill passes, its invasiveness will inspire my seething contempt.
intellectuals will never allocate resources more efficiently than markets.
in a universe where entropy always grows, that which survives must become more stable – but like the activation energy of a chemical reaction (or a neg) – a period of instability usually precedes a period of stability.
if money can buy an expensive salmon dinner, money can buy a heart transplant; money buys probability-of-health both ways – just that in the latter case death is much more imminent. unfortunate, but no exemption from analogy.
human body insurance is a fools errand. ill never willingly choose to crash my car – ill never willingly choose to burn down my house – but if i get vague left big toe pain – or diabetes from incessant swedish fish consumption – i might just choose to spend other peoples money and see the doctor.
im not a government employee; itll be off with their heads.
valid title change, let the furor begin.
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texas will be the final american stronghold.
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Roissy needs to write a book. This blog is cool and all, and reaches a decent audience, but there’s nothing like the structure of a book to impart wisdom. It’s about time, isn’t it?
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“Citizen Renegade” – pretentious.
[editor: i am a narcissistic prick!]
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Thanks for making it relatively easy to comment on your blog, unlike Slate that makes you jump through a dozen hoops. The universal bureaucracy hasn’t completely taken over the world just yet.
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Keep
Dreaming
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@ Nicole: I don’t actually read your posts because you keep clogging up the comments section whining for sympathy so if you are making improvements than why keep bitching and whining on a PU blog about it?
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The bill’s passage is a pyrrhic victory. The Great Dissimulator and The Wicked Witch of S.F. have awoken the sleeping giant, and it ain’t gonna be pretty for them in the next 2.5 years.
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The payback will be hellish, but it may take 6-8 years to implement it all. Have patience and enjoy.
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[editor: i am a narcissistic prick!]
So am I!
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Firepower said:
“The problem is, out of fear and apathy, Apatovian “Beerguys” aren’t compelled to enlist in a dangerous conflict threatening their mortal lives.
Less casualties + YouPorn = < Dudez"
God, guns and guts made America great. The opposite does the opposite, too. F*cking-A, right.
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New name is whack.
Right now, you’re known as only Roissy – like Casanova, Rasputin, or Madonna, Roissy doesn’t try too hard.
Citizen Renegade is trying too hard.
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Mike –
I like the “Roissy” brand as well. The man of legend with his chateau of love with big wrought iron keys and all.
There are so many of us “activist” types, myself included, that do the citizen/advocacy stuff. But Roissy is like our cool older cousin with the devil-may-care attitude but who cares secretly none the less.
So yes perhaps losing “in DC” is a good move to go national, but IMHO Roissy must keep the Roissy in the site’s title.
[editor: hm. i see your point. alright lemme think about this.]
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Breeze, who’s whining? I was explaining why some people are out of the loop.
You have really got to lighten up. Are you getting enough D-3?
Why I bother to talk about it here is because many people are out of the loop, and this knowledge is pretty much the difference between waking up one day next to an aging beauty who’s not really that much worse for the wear and fitter than a lot of “hot” 20 year olds, and waking up next to a one legged whale…not that this is morally wrong, it’s just a shame if it can be avoided.
Most men are not attracted to overly masculine looking or unhealthy women. Since we were talking about it, I thought it a good idea to mention one of the reasons why so many women are masculinized and/or unhealthy.
Please, get the stick out of your ass. It is disabling you from telling a friend from an enemy.
…not that this problem is new here.
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@Nicole
I am not following your argument here but you just said something that fits in general:
Men should avoid conducting friendly fire
@Topher
That great essay you just wrote can be boiled down to this:
Men should avoid conducting friendly fire
So, whoever is arguing with Nicole, I am not following what you are writing, but please note that Nicole generally supports men and is an asset to Citizen Renegade’s blog comments section.
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required viewing
http://www.fxnetworks.com/shows/originals/archer/
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