20% of my lays were through social circle entrustments. That is, a significant minority of women I’ve banged were introduced to me, or I to them, through mutual friends, usually at house parties or mixed group gatherings at bars. Social circle game is a powerful force, most in evident during the college years, but always playing a role throughout life. It’s easy to see why this is so. Women’s eggs are a pricey commodity and they aren’t predisposed to hand over those eggs to just any random sperm wandering by. Women need to know the semen vehicle soliciting them is carrying quality seed. Sometimes they acquire the relevant information by talking with and observing the suitor; other times they rely on trusted friends to do their dirty work for them. Any man can get a huge leg up with a woman simply by being positively introduced to her through a friend of her’s, preferably a female friend, though a trusted beta orbiter male friend will also work in his favor.
Men don’t need social circle game to get laid. Our visual scanner is all the proof we need that we want to meet, seduce, and bang a girl. But many men do rely on social circle game because that’s what women emphasize. And men, if nothing else, are all about the path of least resistance to sex. In the final analysis, all men are ultimately playing by women’s rules of attraction. (Similarly, all women are playing by the slimmer volume of men’s rules of attraction. See: Any fat chick or aging single mom who must settle for less than what she could get if she were slender, younger, and childless.)
Recognizing this reality of the mating market, the smart man asks himself how he can capitalize on a woman’s instinct for social circle game without having any actual, you know, corresponding social circle with her. Luckily, there are ways to outmaneuver a woman’s hindbrain with subtle psychological ploys.
What you need: One socially savvy wingman (or, even better, wingwoman). One target. A trickster’s heart.
Stand with your wingman ten paces from your target. Have your wing approach the target alone. Don’t acknowledge your target in any way. Your wingman will have a script ready to recite upon introducing himself to your target.
SUPERFLY WINGMAN: Hey, I remember you. I met you at Bridget’s party a few months back. My girlfriend Ellen was with me. You know her?
ASSTITSFACE: No, I don’t think I was at that party.
SUPERFLY WINGMAN: Well, it was a while ago. No biggie. I think you mentioned you liked surfing, or maybe it was running. Are you a surfer? You kind of look like the California type surfer chick.
ASSTITSFACE: No, I’ve never surfed.
SUPERFLY WINGMAN: [Here he digresses about what she likes to do, and draws out something that she does enjoy, like badminton. The wingman will need a good ten minutes to get a solid conversation rolling] Badminton?! That’s bad ass. Hey, my buddy over there plays badminton with his nephew. I’ll introduce you guys. [Wingman waves you over. You look over, point at yourself questioningly, then join them.]
SUPERFLY WINGMAN: Hey, SUPER ALPHA DUDE, this is ASSTITSFACE. Me and Ellen met her at some party a while ago, and she likes badminton. And I thought you were the only weirdo I knew who played badminton. But don’t worry, she seems pretty cool otherwise.
SUPER ALPHA DUDE (YOU): Hey, ASSTITSFACE, I’m surprised my buddy here knows another badminton lover. [GAME ON]
***
So what was accomplished here? First, note how your wingman immediately disqualifies himself as a potential suitor when he tells the target he has a girlfriend. This is to ensure that the follow-up “fake social circle” game is not corrupted by her distrust of his intentions.
Second, when she (naturally) objects that she wasn’t at the party, your wing brushes it off, and continues on as if she *was* at the party. Now she’s starting to wonder if maybe she was there, but she sadly doesn’t remember. Your wing then quickly redirects the conversation to a related subject — surfing — one that is presumed was broached initially at the long ago party. He makes this part up, but it doesn’t matter. It’s just a springboard to get her talking about herself so that your wing can find a phony commonality between her and you. Once the commonality has been established, your wing calls you over, acting the whole time as if the target is someone your wing knows from a mutual friend.
Once you’re in, you are no longer any old schmoe she just met. Now you’re the friend of a cool guy who she may or may not have met at a mutual friend’s party. Fake social circle game is subtle in its imprint upon the female psyche, but don’t let its subtlety distract you from its power to ply pussy. Most of the women you will want to bang will not be part of your social circle. Fake social circle game can help bridge that gap.
Here’s to all the good wingmen out there.
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This is fucking gold backed currency. Cant want to try it!
Thank you
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Everyone knows how valuable a good wingman is. A wingman is also a good babysitter on a double date. He’ll occupy the ugly and/or annoying friend while you go in for the kill. Just make sure you reward the wingman appropriately with a drink or two.
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Awesome.
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Finally, a useful wingman tactic.
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This is some great trickery. Harmless as well.
Working in tandem can be very strong.
My old running partner would sometimes tell girls I was Marlon Brando’s grandson (I look somewhat similar to a young Brando) when I would excuse myself to grab some cocktails. Followed up with, “Don’t tell him I told you, he doesn’t like to talk about it”.
One girl started hyperventilating and nearly passed out one time.
That reminds me, I should start running that Game again.
– MPM
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Very nice, and it truly shows how wingmen should be working together.
Too many times people confuse a good “wingman” with their buddies they go out drinking with. There is a big difference. Real wingman theory involves particular strategies used to assist each other in seduction, as the gambit mentioned above.
Just because you go out drinking with your buddy, it doesn’t make him your wingman. This is particularly true if that buddy isn’t aware of game; which in that case, is more likely to be a hindrance, or even worse, a cock block.
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Another aspect of social circle game that isn’t often talked about is how to plow through multiple women in the same group without getting shut down.
I have gotten pretty good at maintaining my “free agent” status within my various social groups that gives me leeway to sex multiple women within said group. This doesn’t mean that I don’t get ever get cockblocked, but it does mean that I am able to establish myself as the guy who doesn’t allow one woman to tie him down.
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Heh. I’m sure something like this could work, but the actual dialogue sample shown here is lame. The majority of girls will know wingman is full of BS and won’t let him talk to them for anywhere close to the 10 minutes you recommend.
A wingwoman, OTOH, could really shine here, and would have a much better chance of qualifying you.
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My wingman and I pull shit like this all the time.
I’ll approach a girl, immediately disqualify myself, then start talking up my friend who is standing nearby within earshot.
I’ll tell the girl how awesome he is, how smart he is, how much I respect him, etc. All the while he just sits there and shrugs and smiles and acts modest. Then I excuse myself to the restroom and he moves in for the kill.
Next venue, we switch roles.
This also works great on strippers. We go to the club (never buying lapdances), our story is we’re just hanging out having some drinks. We’ll get a girl or two sitting next to us then my wing will start asking me a bunch of loaded questions: “When do you leave for France? Next week?” and “Did you get your other car out of the shop yet? Yeah, those Porsche mechanics are expensive!”.
We’ve pulled some strippers out of the club by doing this and taking them back to a hotel.
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Too much work, too much bs for a little poontang. When you realize she wants it just as much as you do, the rest is easy. If you focus on smarter chicks, the lies are unnecessary.
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You rang?
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Yes. Manufactured social proof for the win. This is probably the simplest and most effective wing strategy. Subtly fabricate social proof into a casual conversation and women’s covert communication skills will work in your favor when you transition into a sarge. I’m married, but I’ve done this as the wing for work associates at mixers and have been surprised at the IOIs and the outright approaches even orbiting women will present me with just for being in the conversation.
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Most wingmen lack the intestinal fortitude to remain proper wingmen the whole evening. They usually end up competing against each other or trying to outshine each other which devolves into a sort of prisoner’s dilemma where both guys end up looking like tools. A good wingman is hard to find.
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I like this concept…because I don’t like gaming girls in my true social circle. Knowing that commitment isn’t really my thing, it’s better to date girls that I know I can stop calling and I won’t be bumping into her at other social gatherings.
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No, here’s to all the good wingmen out there:
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@Bobby
Patently false.
A healthy male produces 17 times the testosterone women do – thus deeper voices, more hair, muscular growth, and higher sex drives. A woman at the peak of her testosterone production (ovulation in her menstrual cycle) will NEVER experience what men do 24-7. Women wanting sex as much as men is a biological impossibility unless she’s on steroids. Anyone telling you differently is trying to sell you something.
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There is fabricating social proof, which R’s post deftly addresses, and then there is undoing immediately lower social proof. In my case, I am the only dude in a small crew of college buds who is not a plastic surgeon…it gets kinda wack at parties. curious how you discerning gentlemen might spin this scenario.
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@Rollo Tomassi
I have experienced different. Women do want sex as much as men, they just disguise it better. If a woman trusts you and knows you can deliver, she will ask (nay beg) for sex. Maybe we have different levels of success.
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Well, either that or you need your testosterone levels checked.
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I’ll tell you what. You are breaking new ground right now. Thank you. Not since Mystery has anyone actually taught something new and original; they just referenced and repackaged him. You reference him while offering something new. Good job.
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@Rollo Tomato
Guys like you give good science a bad name. Your premise is completely flawed. Testosterone /= sex drive. They may be correlated, but you are too reductive. “biological impossibility”? This is just your frontal cortex trying in vain to order the world you perceive into a simple set of rules that give you feelings of comfort and control.
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This is definitely not “new ground”. I feel like most guys have done this before, even before they knew about Game. A guy talking up his buddy to a girl? Old as the dinosaurs.
There is new shit on this site…but this ain’t it.
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@Rollo Tomassi
re needing testosterone levels checked.
Yeah, that’s it… success with women implies testosterone deficiency.
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I didn’t say anything about success, I said that testosterone levels in men make comparing libido with women a biological impossibility. Women simply do not have a comparable sex drive in regards to desire as a result of lower testosterone levels (and certain brain function as a result too), but women (along with feminized men) love to repeat the meme that ‘women want it as much or more than men’ to convince men that their just not “in tune” with women.
Have a read:
http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/03/23/brizendine.male.brain/index.html?hpt=C2
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lol. reducing a female human being to a three-unit visual template. So true in the first impression.
my guess is this wouldn’t work on every girl – that someone who isn’t dumb or forgetful would bail after the “bridge/ellen/surfing” non-references. but i agree with the commenter above who said that this would work way better with a female pivot than with a wingman.
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So Brizendine’s book about the male brain is finally out, thanks for the heads up Rollo. That’s going to be a must read.
Also, you doubters should seek out read “The Social Dimension of Sex” by Baumeister/Tice.
Specifically the chapters “Do Women Have a Milder Sex Drive than Men?” and “The Tragedy of the Male Sex Drive”.
Shit I forgot to mention this book in the Game Resources topic. Everybody should read it. Take heed.
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@ Rollo
http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/03/23/brizendine.male.brain/index.html?hpt=C2
Aaaaand here it is, folk. Scientific fucking proof that marriage betaizes a man.
Marriage: the biggest shit test of all.
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Ok, Rollo, I’ll bite.
According to the article: “The female brain is driven to seek security and reliability in a potential mate before she has sex. But a male brain is fueled to mate and mate again. Until, that is, he mates for life.”
“reliability… before she has sex.”
“mate… until… he mates for life.”
If you believe that, you haven’t had much experience with women this century.
I’m not even going to delve into correlation/causation.
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why do you losers still hang out with chix in social situations?
don’t you know that ben bernanke and the federal reserve reprogammed them to take your money? to take your money in divorce/alimony/buying pua books/child support/working to impress them. lozzllzlzlzlzlzers!!!
once upon a time women were soulful creatures who were loyal to tehir husbands and chidlren BECAUSE MEN SAID THEY HAD TO BE.
now they can suck and fuck and suck and fuck all they want, and each cock they take in kills a bit of tehir soul.
and guess what–that makes them perfectly useless, so why bother socializing iwth them?
hanging out with women in social situations is dumb and dangerous, and in addition they will see you as a beta male.
if you want tale, let other guys fail and spend time in social situations.
i’ll be texting them at 2 am when i’m in the mood.
lzozlzl!
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The funniest thing about this game stuff is that it really works very well. No wonder that Denise Romano woman was so angry about it.
I guess it could be compared to all the things women use, such as makeup, push-up bras, heels, etc. But I’d say it works even better.
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Quick Question for everyone:
How does one game a girl with whom he works? I have a hot girl, late twenties, who has worked in my area for a few months and has delivered IOI to me several times. Every guy (all guys in their 40’s and 50’s) hits on her and make idiots of themselves. I am in my mid-thirties and have deliberately paid zero attention to her- just to question her prowess. But now I want to move in. The problem is both of us are surrounded by tons of coworkers. I’m thinking e-mail is the way to go. Any advice?
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This seems too convoluted and complicated. Too many opportunities for it to go south.
Regular wingman game works great. Regular social circle game works even better.
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C3PO
Quick Question for everyone:
“How does one game a girl with whom he works? I have a hot girl, late twenties, who has worked in my area for a few months and has delivered IOI to me several times. Every guy (all guys in their 40’s and 50’s) hits on her and make idiots of themselves. I am in my mid-thirties and have deliberately paid zero attention to her- just to question her prowess. But now I want to move in. The problem is both of us are surrounded by tons of coworkers. I’m thinking e-mail is the way to go. Any advice?”
Never swoop girls you work with, unless you don’t mind finding another job.
And yes, e-mail is the worst way to go.
– MPM
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Personally, I found the Brizendine book, “The Female Brain” to be a huge disappointment. Needless to say, there were no footnotes, and boat loads of anecdotes. And in certain ways, just plain contradictory to common sense and personal experience/observation. Women, famously, justify, after-the-fact, their bad/harmful/destructive/promiscuous decisions–so their self-assessments and reporting after-the-fact is just ass-covering, not good science. It stereotypically justified many of the pretty lies. I’m not hopeful about her book “The Male Brain.”
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C3PO….don’t leave a paper trail – electronic or actual. you’ll thank yourself for waiting to avoid that.
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Hmmm. Not sure about this one. It probably could do with the caveat that it only works on girls from large anonymous cities.
I live in a small town. Trying this would backfire on my ass.
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This is gold!
I’ve been squandering my wingwomen. I’m pulling this move out ASAP.
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C3PO –
I took down 2 girls from my office last year. I didnt work directly with them as they were on different projects. However our paths crossed daily in the office and I’d see them at company happy hours and events.
Frankly I’m not concerned with the whole “dont shit where you eat argument”. I say go for it unless the girl is in a position of power over you. Luckily my two ladies were younger and below me in the office hierarchy. While you may experience some interoffice drama, the prestige I received from the other dudes in the office for bagging the two best looking girls in the office more than offset the penalty of office drama. If you play it right you wont create much office drama anyway. The other chumps in the office, beta male orbiter types, all were after these two chicks but were too pussy to do anything about it. These dudes were either jealous of, or admired my handiwork. Either way, I’m the fucking man.
Anyway, my advice to you is first of all be a baller at the office. i.e. make sure she sees you talking and walking with the bigs, joking around with the worker bees…everybody knows you in some way. Give an air of success. Social proof in an office context. AND always dress better then the rest of schlubs at work. Wear great suits.
Don’t hit on her at work. A friendly interaction by the coffee machine is fine but dont indicate interest. Setup a casual office happy hour if thats not a regular thing at your office. At the bar hang out with the boys at work, tell great stories, make sure she sees this. This setting is your opportunity to isolate her and have a conversation that isnt in a professional context. Ideally, she’ll have a few drinks in her, some co-workers will peel off and you can ramp up the game. You dont want be obvious about this. If you’re seen by co-workers, whether they are other less attractive women, or jealous beta males, rumors will spread and she may even be teased about it. Either way, the social pressure will cause her to avoid you. She doesnt want to be the office slut. Do your gaming subtly if co-workers are nearby. If you are sufficiently isolated, proceed as you would with any other girl. As always, make sure the interest is sufficiently there. In the co-worker scenario the cost of misreading the signals can be much higher. e.g. harassment. If you are correct and she wants it, you will have a girl who is hot for it, because of the added excitement of keeping it secret.
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goldenseed: “Luckily my two ladies were younger and below me in the office hierarchy.”
The average sexual harassment award is in the hundreds of thousands of dollars.
With three BILLION women on planet Earth and a raging recession, I think it’s best to leave work pussy at work.
Try not to antagonize the workplace representatives of the Marxist-Feminist Collective and the Beta Pussy Defense League.
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Barnie Stinson.
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Get a good wingman. It sounds so easy but it’s practically impossible. Almost all of my friends who I go drinking with have girlfriends already and therefore don’t really seem that interested in talking to girls. Talking to girls alone sucks and is rarely successful, especially when I haven’t been in NYC that long and many other people here have long-developed networks.
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This is good shit.
Lmao @ G gettin his wing’s to run “Marlon Brando’s grandson” game on chicks. That’s gold right there.
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The best wingman you can possibly have is the one who is an alpha himself who is trying to ride off of your high status.
I have a friend that fits the bill to a “T”. He’s a late 20’s bike show promoter who will say anything to anyone at any time. He’s sleeved out, pierced, and rides a Harley, but when I roll up he has his entire entourage bowing to me because he pumps me up to everyone to boost his own status.
I can thank him for helping me work my way in with the chick that just left my place an hour ago.
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I take it this is for very short term relationships (i.e., one night). It’s going to become clear to her within about week or less that the guy doesn’t really share that interest.
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This is still kind of “inside the social circle game”, but I should mention that the guy from my previous post inadvertently had a chick eating out of my hand within minutes by playing along with the “you don’t know who I am??” game.
Hot Young Chick Surrounded by 3 Guys Pawing at Her: “And who are YOU?”
My Buddy: “You don’t know who this guy is?? Really??”
Hot Young Chick: “No, should I?”
My Buddy: “Let me tell you about this guy here. He is THE MAN!”
Hot Young Girl: “So who ARE you?”
Me: “You don’t know who I am? Are you serious? What, you don’t watch t.v. or something??” [I have a business that advertised on tv, I’m not a celeb, but that doesn’t matter]
We all pile into the limo. Hottie is getting groped by two of the dudes she rolled up with. In between pushing them off of her she’s making “Fuck me” eyes in my direction and rubbing my leg with her stiletto dangling from her toes.
Within three minutes it went from this chick tossing me beta bait to her wanting to bang me, all because of three or four well placed lines that boosted my implied social status through the roof.
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How about a larger discussion of the use of female wingmen? Makes lots of sense intuitively. But it’s not like I have some “best friend” females out there who would like to assist my getting laid.
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the workplace comment makes me think about a funny distinction I heard somewhere.
on how women will perceive your interaction with them at work:
if you are alpha it’s flirting
if you are beta it’s sexual harassment
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I’m pretty lucky in that my second best wing is a chick. She’s my buddy’s bisexual g/f. Can’t just call her up for obvious reasons, but we all get together often and it’s game on…
I have found that chicks who like women tend to be more in tune to the pickup, and a lot more open to helping facilitate the transaction rather than cockblocking. Most other women I know would sooner throw you under the bus than watch you hook up.
This one, on the other hand, squealed with delight the other day when I asked her the scoop on one of her hot friends and told her that she was officially my “wingwoman”.
Gotta love cool chicks.
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asstitsface. hahaha excellent.
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@ C3PO:
Personally, I wouldn’t, unless you know she’s wrapped reasonably tight and is worth the risk. To figure that out, you need to have some, like, conversations and stuff. If you’ve had enough conversations with the lass to figure out if she’s a barking looney or not well, do I have to explain everything? Higher status, aloofness (mandatory at work anyway), push-pull, having an exciting life, finding some common interest and excuse to hang with her outside of work, and, well, voila. IOI at work is pretty meaningless; lots of women do that for validation at work. Chat her up, take your time. Don’t fuck up. A joint I worked at was like the love boat with workplace romance: everyone was screwing everyone else (I was part of it), and to my horror, a lot of ’em ended up married. That’s worse than getting fired, IMO. To avoid that: keep it a secret.
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This worked in Groundhog’s Day. Practice makes perfect.
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I can imagine some girls being too nice to call out the potential BS, and give the benefit of the doubt just to be friendly. (Probably one of them.)
This reminds me of a young benefactors gala I went to once.
A group of not-so-young men were glancing at my friend and I. One guy breaks away and approaches.
We’re chatting. The guy is dropping hints about his friends being big golfers/car collectors/airplane flyers. Ok, that’s nice, adventurous life…
My friend goes to the bathroom. The guy now straight tells me his buddies over there are all not just wealthy, but super wealthy. And that the shortest, ugliest, baldest one of all is worth 2 billion or something like that.
I was disgusted. These supposedly desirable men, the oldest guys at a “young” event, were with no women and just hanging by themselves. It came across very sleazy of him to say.
It’s like OK, so you’re rich… you expect me to jump on your ___ now or something? Sorry if I sound mean, but what a cheap thing to try and entice a woman by. Don’t just take my word for it…
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lovelysexybeauty: they had no game, just money. use them and dump them.
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It helps, you know, if you have a wingman that is deep-down, basically in love with you.
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@rum thats why women get beta orbiters?
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lovelysexybeauty, not brainy, are you?
please reread the article and get back to us with a corrected version of your homework.
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C3PO:
“How does one game a girl with whom he works?”
You don’t.
I repeat: don’t do it.
If you have any semblance of game, there are SO many women available to you who AREN’T your legally-protected-from-your-advances coworker it’s not even worth considering.
I’m not just talking akwardness…I’m talking sexual harassment action, and a reputation that might follow you to kill new job opportunities.
Do people get involved with coworkers? All the time. Is it ever a good idea? No. Remember that we live in a society that has basically granted women the right to be free of men they don’t want around.
If all the other people hit on her except you, use her as a pivot – at a work happy hour or something, use your lack of gaming her as social proof to show non-work targets you won’t be shit-tested or go stupid in front of a beautiful woman.
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More:
“and has delivered IOI to me several times.”
This could be anything. Maybe she’s interested. Maybe she’s trying to throw off the guys hitting on her. Maybe she’s looking for a leg up in the company and thinks you’re it.
But it doesn’t matter. Like rape laws where a woman can retroactively withdraw consent, as soon as she decides she’s no longer interested in giving IOIs, her previous ones will be “withdrawn” and re-cast as responses to unwanted advances by you (fictional ones at that). HR won’t wait for the lawyers to figure out who’s telling the truth. You’ll get Harold Reynolds’ed.
I don’t mean to be so didactic, but a lot of people have gotten burned thinking it wouldn’t happen to them, because the girl liked them, their game was too good or whatever…you are completely unprotected, it’s the sociological version of raw doggin’ it.
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C3PO,
Assuming you don’t have R2D2 around to wingbot, you need first to communicate only 1 bit of information, that you have noticed her IOIs and do not mind them. There needs to be a 2-way IOI, just once, so it is apparent your disinterest is a matter of policy (work-play separation).
This will get her fantasizing about all sorts of scenarios by which the work-firewall can be circumvented somehow. The next part is a little tricky — you have to be a mind-reader and thought projector and try to arrange for a situation to occur which matches one of her scenarios. When one does come up and she behaves unusually in ANY way (if she is perfectly 100% normal then you haven’t triggered the scenario), move in hard and fast.
Depending on the situation the move can be either nonverbal (look her in the eye as you move in to kiss her on the mouth) or verbal (“Hey. Clear your schedule, I’m coming by your desk at 5 to take you to . “)
The nonverbal way is riskier, so have an out ready if she slaps you or acts angry: “Guess I shouldn’t have broken my rule. Should I go report myself to HR for harassment or will you do it?” (Don’t worry about harassment policy, if there was no previous incident and you take no for an answer you are allowed one approach.)
If you can’t find a way to get alone with her to try this, allow her to overhear a conversation with a coworker where you say you will be at some upcoming non-work-related event that she might reasonably “surprise” you at (preferably not letting her know you are aware she is around to hear you). Go there and keep your eyes open. If she is there you are home free; greet her with a hug and a squeeze and act like she’s already your GF.
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Ouch — wordpress deleted a key parenthetical note because I foolishly used angle brackets that it interpreted as html. One paragraph in my previous reply should have read:
Depending on the situation the move can be either nonverbal (look her in the eye as you move in to kiss her on the mouth) or verbal (“Hey. Clear your schedule, I’m coming by your desk at 5 to take you to (most exciting/fanciest place within 1 hour that is NOT a hangout for coworkers). “)
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Ladies, do yourself a favor, escape from New York. It is the worst possible place to find a man. The ones that are available have been spoiled rotten by the unequal distribution of women to men and even if you get one into a semi-normal relationship, he will cheat.
Spend a few dates with a New York male however and you may not be so worried about infidelity. They are unbelievably boring and self-centered. I am addicted to eavesdropping on dates here in the Big Apple and it is always some turd talking about himself incessantly while his tolerant date suffers through five hours of someone else’s ego. “I think they’re starting to realize most of the best ideas are mine,” he will inevitably say about his job, “but I don’t want to rub it in their faces just yet.” His date will nod and wonder how she went from the prettiest girl in high school to a walking therapist.
In New York it is perfectly acceptable to be a single male at 43-years-old. These particular men don’t want to settle down with a woman their age. Why would they? That leaves you old and alone with no hopes for continuing the 40,000 years of post Neanderthal humanity that brought you here.
“The end result of all this “I’m OK You’re OK” propaganda is men can get away with things like picking up a girl at 27 and then dumping her at 32 like it ain’t no thang.”
Besides being doomed, New York women are tenacious as hell and have adapted to this unfortunate circumstance in three impressive but sad ways.
1- OWN IT
They embrace their single status and wear the cougar moniker on their lapel like it’s an expensive broach. They proudly sit at a café during one of the few lunch breaks they can take out of the office and say, “I like being single” exactly the same way Judy Davis said it in Husbands and Wives. Turning bad into good has become an integral part of Gotham’s female culture. When I see Sex in the City, I see a group of lonely women bitching about loneliness. New York gals see it as a way to make make lonely cool.
2- GET A DOG
They scoff at children claiming the world is overpopulated yet they fawn over their pets like an old Italian grandma seeing her grandchildren for the first time. Whenever my kids see one walking down the street they say “Doggie” because it is. Cougars scowl because this is the n-word of the dog community—“His name is Max.” For the record ladies, Max has been bred for thousands of years to love humans unconditionally. We literally made him love you.
3- DENY, DENY, DENY
The final and most effective trick these women use to deny the fact that they have walked into an elephant’s graveyard for their ovaries is to deny they have walked into an elephant’s graveyard for their ovaries. Is there a special section at New York’s Beth Israel Hospital for pregnant woman over 30 called “Geriatric Mothers”? Nope. Did a new study say we may be too generous saying it’s hard to have babies after 30 and the number is more like 27? Uh uh. Does having children late in life lead to autism? Why, that’s absurd.
In fact, I’ve heard 30-something friends of mine describe doctors who tell them they’re running out of time as “sexist.” If the math ever does seep into their gorgeous skulls, they claim having babies is gross anyway because there are so many babies waiting to be adopted (a claim Sarah Silverman recently made). Er, there’s lots of non-white babies looking for adoption. In 1990, only 1,500 of the total 120,000 adoptions were whites adopting blacks (less than one percent). If that’s you, go bananas, but I suspect it’s another thing women are much more likely to say they’d do than actually do.
I get a lot of flack from my bitches claiming I think a woman isn’t worth anything if she doesn’t breed. This is false. The truth is 80 percent of people marry by 40 and only seven percent of them choose not to have kids. If you’re one of the few women who don’t want what most other women want, all the power to you. Seriously. I just don’t want this shitty city and it’s liberal use of lies to make any more of my girls unhappy. Communism taught us lying never works and the end result of all this “I’m OK You’re OK” propaganda is men can get away with things like picking up a girl at 27 and then dumping her at 32 like it ain’t no thang.
Plenty of women deny this is an issue and give some anecdotal evidence about a 40-year-old who had kids with ease. All right, here’s some anecdotes. My mother had my brother at 41. This is called UNUSUAL. The rest of my friends go a little like this: Nadia (the one who called the doctor sexist) just hit 45 childless and alone and doesn’t seem very jazzed about it, Paul and Alka spent five years and $10k trying to make their own after waiting until she was 35 and ended up adopting, Mike and Jan spend $15k and eventually made twins in a sea of miscarriages, Reggie and Marcia recently gave up after turning 40 and trying for 5 years, Wendy’s 38 and getting nervous, Marny’s 38 and in a relationship now with a 25-year-old she’s confident won’t last long enough to raise a kid so she’s going to get pregnant anyway… the list goes on and on. I’ve heard there are plenty of women who don’t want kids and are happy childless but I’m yet to meet one (oh and 30-year-olds, please don’t email me telling me how happy you are and yada yada yada—honest regret doesn’t start until after 40).
The other problem with trying to tell women that going against all their instincts often turns out bad is all the stats they cite showing you happy childless women. I’m honestly glad if this truly is working out for them but I’m also dubious. One of humanity’s greatest talents is taking the hand your dealt and learning to love it. Harvard professor Dan Gilbert recently discovered people who are given a choice rate it much lower than people who have stuck themselves with none. So ladies, please stop closing your beautiful eyes to biological facts. The odds are you’re not some freak that doesn’t want a family. Nor are you likely to be one of the medical anomalies that can turn everything around in your 30s and 40s. Move to LA where relationships are inevitable and instead of cocaine and mindless indulgence, the nightlife is about deciding between a quaint dinner party at home and a movie at home. After all, isn’t that where the heart is?
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@C3PO
Supermarket shoppers end up in the unemployment line. Get your bread at the baker’s. Get your meat at the butcher’s.
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Breaking through into a woman’s social circle is like getting permission to enter a strange new solar system as an orbiting planet, plucked out of the gassy, nebulous freakscene that is the Kuiper Belt of general society. Of course, she sees herself as the sun at the center of the circle, but once you’re within her social orbit as a viable planet, you’re in.
I like the strategy for doing it, but honestly, sometimes leading a woman through that much mental rainforest can only lead to migraines.
Here’s what’s concerning me tonight:
I’m walking down the Hipster Highway, watching this woman strut, swiveling on pivots and pivoting on swivels, just kind of enjoying the hypnotic fart bubble that is the female ass and hip machine. Then I noticed something off when she stopped at a Don’t Walk. Her proportions were 95% true, but it was like her ass was beginning that horrible slide off her back and down her legs. Just maybe even within the last week or so. Once that happens, it’s over. It’s long been one of my nightmares to wake up and find myself married to fat momma. Sometimes you can tell by looking at their mothers, but there’s got to be some kind of algorithm out there to let a fella know what the future holds, or, just how much the f@ing future is going to have to hold. Dig?
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It is great to have new posts show up on the mobile. Last night I was walking by a high-end pub/restaurant on the way home when I read this gem. I decided to walk in to check the crowd and saw a very attractive woman sitting at a table near the bar with a friend. I then immediately called out to the owner of the pub to come give me a big bear hug and we talked about her business as if I were chairman of the local chamber of commerce. I then made a point of being introduced to the new staff who were starstruck with the idea “this must be a VIP of some sort”. I then turned to the target and she and her friend were staring with their mouths open. I said to the owner “Are these your friends as well?” The women blushed and the owner said “these are guests who just came tonight”. I then said “Pleased to meet you” and the two women answered starstruck “Pleased to meet you too”. After protesting that I’d already eaten and had just wanted to come say hi to my favorite restaurant owner, I sat down at the next table to await a chocolate sundae (on the house) and a great conversation proceeded with the target from there. Thanks!
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Just to offer a girls perspective. The above tactic smacks of all that ‘my mate fancies you’ rubbish which goes on at high school. Needing a friend to go and big you up? In what way is that alpha! I’ve had people try this shit on me, and it has only ever worked when I had already spotted the guy they were trying to hook me up with and decided for myself that he looked worth investigating. Mostly, it’s a turn off. If I’m out at a part or anywhere else I want a man who actually has the guts to approach me himself, not send his friend ahead first to make him look good.
As for the sex drive thing, apparently the Alpha men here in the UK are few and far between, because with the exception of the man I am currently seeing not one of my exes has come close to sharing my sex drive, despite all of them insisting that theirs was higher than average.
Seriously though, all this ‘game’ stuff seems a bit crazy to me. Surely a real Alpha can get the girl without needing to resort to all of this?
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@Hal
Wow. I just posted about New York Men.
http://vincentignatius.wordpress.com/
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Hal,
Let me edit your post and still keep it 100% true:
“Spend a few dates with an urban American female however and you may not be so worried about infidelity (instead wondering if you will blow your brains out before she gets the chance to cheat). They are unbelievably boring and self-centered. I am addicted to eavesdropping on dates here in the USA and it is always some bimbo talking about herself incessantly while her tolerant date suffers through five hours of someone else’s ego. “I think they’re starting to realize I’m sooo much hotter than them,” she will inevitably say about her friends, “but I don’t want to rub it in their faces just yet.” Her date will nod and wonder how he went from a smart, capable, handsome man in high school to verbally-handcuffed arm candy for some over-privileged chick.”
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Hal, I agree with your advice that women should escape from New York, but Los Angeles is not the place to run to. I say they should go south if they want to find a husband who has a brain and sufficient testosterone.
The place I lived with the best balance was northern Virginia. Plenty to do, and plenty of jobs for professionals and creative folk, lots of open minded people, but realistic in that most want to form families. The male to female ratio in the DC area isn’t the greatest, but for the relative few guys who are available, decent means you don’t even necessarily have to be that extremely hot. Of course, being hot always helps, but if you play your cards right, you’ll get enough attention that you won’t care that much.
Really, all a girl has to do is be clean, healthy, well groomed but not overdone, and friendly. Marriageable guys will jump out of the shadows like a bad zombie movie.
I believe it’s because even though there are more available women than men supposedly, the vast majority of women in the DC area are “big city girls” with negligible home skills and bad attitudes, who look gaudy and unhealthy.
Yep…Northern Virginia…good times.
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“As for the sex drive thing, apparently the Alpha men here in the UK are few and far between, because with the exception of the man I am currently seeing not one of my exes has come close to sharing my sex drive, despite all of them insisting that theirs was higher than average. ”
I can’t really speak to the biology like others do, but there does seem to be a cultural myth that women are not as sexual or interested in sex as guys are. When their guard is down AND they have been “sexually awakened” by a guy who knows how to perform, most women I’ve asked about it can’t get enough.
I think this myth comes from one huge source: women marrying beta males they are not that sexually interested in. A man practically begging his wife to have more sex is a ubiquitous cultural trope, but it reflects people who chose each other for things other than the sex.
Then we have hormone studies, etc to justify to men why their wives don’t want to have sex with them.
Remember also that the built-in hypergamy instinct means that only a subset of guys are sexually attractive to the average woman (whereas most women are an acceptable sex partner for the average man). So these guys might be with women uninterested in sex _with them_, whereas they might be ready to jump Tom Brady/Bill Clinton/Tim McGraw/etc at a moment’s notice.
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Hal,
I know several men in their 30’s who live in New York City and seem to be in no rush to settle down. I don’t know if people like that gravitate towards the city or living in the city makes them that way. They are not bad guys, but if a woman is looking for marriage and children, dating them would probably be a dead end.
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Vincent/Hal,
I’ve never had any interest in the social meat-grinder that is New York City. I think you’d have to be
Loved this part: “If you’ve been emulating the sex and the city lifestyle, stick a fork in you; you’re done.”
Good God, people have got to get over that show. The “you go girl”ing that piece of crap has inspired is sick. I know people who think SATC is real, that it really reflects social life in Manhattan. My girlfriend is one of them, she referenced the show to support some assertion about NYC and I looked at her like she had two heads.
The thing that always leaves girls speechless is when I tell them that SATC was actually written as four gay men, but the writers changed the characters to women to make it more palatable to a mainstream audience.
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@Topher
‘I think this myth comes from one huge source: women marrying beta males they are not that sexually interested in. A man practically begging his wife to have more sex is a ubiquitous cultural trope, but it reflects people who chose each other for things other than the sex.’
Interesting point. I think there are two things going on here though. Men and women are both told from an early age that women don’t really want sex (hence the need for ‘game’ I guess) and that what they do want is a guy who will provide for them, treat them like a princess and what not. Which means that beta guys try to be that guy, and so many girls go for it even though that’s not who they want, because that’s what they’ve been told they want and no one wants to be a social freak, right? It’s so stupid. I keep telling my girl friends, if you have everything in common but you don’t find him sexually attractive, then be friends. Since we tend to make friends with people with similar interests, that way he can meet other women with those interests etc who do find him attractive and likewise you can check out his friends for possibilities. Everyone wins.
At least this is how I see it…
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Laura,
“I know several men in their 30’s who live in New York City and seem to be in no rush to settle down. I don’t know if people like that gravitate towards the city or living in the city makes them that way. They are not bad guys, but if a woman is looking for marriage and children, dating them would probably be a dead end.”
Never lived in NY, but I speculate two things that affect urban people:
-With the long hours, sh*t jobs and networking required to get on a stable work track (partner-track legal, medical residency, stockbroker in the pit etc), marriage isn’t feasible for time, money or expense of social capital.
-It’s also a sexual market thing; when there are two girls for every boy, it will be a player’s paradise and attract guys who like to sample the dessert menu.
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“I keep telling my girl friends, if you have everything in common but you don’t find him sexually attractive, then be friends.”
I was listening to a clip of Tom Leykis, and a woman called up whose husband had gone slob a year into their marriage. He asked why she didn’t leave him and she gave him some line about him being her best friend. TL said something along the lines of “so you have a roommate – who’s fun to hang around with, who’s a slob and you don’t have sex with.” She also admitted they got married as an excuse to have the big party. Big F’in mistake.
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“As for the sex drive thing, apparently the Alpha men here in the UK are few and far between, because with the exception of the man I am currently seeing not one of my exes has come close to sharing my sex drive, despite all of them insisting that theirs was higher than average. ”
I get tired of having sex with the same person very quickly. I’d rather fuck a new 6 than the 8 I’ve already had two dozen times. Just my two cents.
@Topher
I agree with the changes you made to Hal’s post. That’s how the dating market seems in most of the country. As a man, I’d rather live in NYC, but neither dating market is my ideal.
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@Vincent
‘I get tired of having sex with the same person very quickly. I’d rather fuck a new 6 than the 8 I’ve already had two dozen times. Just my two cents.’
Then why don’t they just leave, or heck even cheat? Though I do tend to look down on people who do the latter but at least it would show the problem was a lack of interest in me (which would hurt, but I’d get over it) rather than just a lack of drive which they seem unaware of. It just baffles me. Even amongst my guy friends, when they start bragging about much sex they are getting it really isn’t that much, yet they seem to think it is.
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Topher,
Thanks. None of these men I know have great careers, but I suppose that would be true for many of the men living in NYC.
I think the male to female ratio would be a huge factor. I know one summer I worked on an isolated ranch where there were about 4 women for every 1 man. This one guy was dating four of us at the same time, I later found out. He really wasn’t a very impressive person and in another situation would have struggled to get one very average girl. I normally wouldn’t have been that interested in him and he probably has never had it so good since that summer. Also, I used to work in a male dominated industry and I did get a lot of attention. It can definitely give you an overinflated view of your desirability.
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Then why don’t they just leave, or heck even cheat?
It’s hard to say. I usually leave after a couple months, but I stayed with one girl for almost 6 years because I really did love her. I just wasn’t excited by her sexually any more.
If you’re very pretty and/or feminine, they could enjoy your presence and like showing you off at events.
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hal you prove your own point. good day sir.
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Topher said:
“The thing that always leaves girls speechless is when I tell them that SATC was actually written as four gay men, but the writers changed the characters to women to make it more palatable to a mainstream audience.”
That leaves me a bit speechless too, Topher. Could you give some links or further information to verify this assertion?
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@ anonymous.
British women are a joke these days, most of the “alpha” guys i know are continuously blowing off contact with their “girlfriends” to chillout, take drugs and play video games and sports with their buddies. It’s not uncommon for one of my boys to leave a cutie at the bar for some spliff and mario-kart after a night out. When i was at uni here in the UK i was amazed by 1 thing. Uni here in Britain is pretty much as bad for the males as unemployment and chavdom!! most of the guys i knew hit uni idealistic, wanting pussy, marriage the whole shebang. About 6 months into the first year they’ve pretty much given up on relationships/women, not because they’ve been unnsuccessful, because they’ve been TOO successful especially in a mixed residency circumstances. if we went to a bar we were just as likely to get into a brawl or scrap as swoop some chicks, in fact if we met some hot chicks it was just as likely they would get a slap or drink thrown in their face by one of the “lads” than swooped. That many girls just aren’t acting right these days. Girls over here generally get the “one dip” for novelty, but to be honest if i even get a BJ or show a girl my dick, i check her off my list, shes done. I mean the most iv’e had sex with a gf was 14 times in a one day period when i was particularly in “love”, but when im not that involved i’m happy with one of 2 sessionsns a day, keeps me relaxed and focused no need to tire myself out especially for a girl i don’t like much, maybe you just aren’t attractive enough to instill mate guarding tactics in your lovers?
The grime scene has this one explained.
“i might link that grim on the regular but i don’t love that grim .you know. twice a year we might slam it but we ain’t getting married not me im cold. you know”
Wiley is a sick
If you can provide evidence that you are an objective 10 in looks, then i’ll agree that all these guys who aren’t fucking you are probably
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not very alpha
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@ The Realist.
Since I’m not willing to post pictures of myself on the net, I can’t really provide any evidence one way or the other looks wise. I’ve been told I’m a 10 before, but realistically I think I’m more like a high 7 or 8. It’s hard to be objective, ya know?
In anycase, I’ve been dumped/rejected twice in my life. Both times, the guys were trying to get me back within a matter of days. It’s a shame, they were nice enough guys but I don’t go back. Not ever. I’ve always had the pick and chose of men I wanted, despite hanging around mostly with girls I tend to think are hotter than I am. I’d say most of my friends are about a 9. I do know a 10, just one though she’s not a close friend. Her ex left her to puruse something with me, make of that what you will.
I’m still pretty convinced that there just aren’t that many Alpah’s around. Most of me exes were really jealous, hated me going out anywhere without them. Didn’t trust their friends alone with me, asked me not to dress up too much if I wasn’t going to be on their arm all night etc etc. I realise they all have reason to lie to me whilst in the relationship, because you know they weren’t exactly going to turn around and say ‘you’re just not that great’, but honestly everyone I’ve dated for more than a few months has tried to get a ring on my finger at about the six month mark. They’ve all taken months to get over me when I’ve gone, and I’ve had their more recent girlfriends admit that they still talk about me. One guy I didn’t even so much as kiss, nevermind date still sends me cards, gifts, emails etc two years after I told him that I never wanted to see/speak to him again. Either I am much hotter than I think I am or these guys are just not Alpha.
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Yeah but what is your definition of Alpha? disregard for a partners sexual satisfaction can actually be a very Alpha trait. Trust a woman to believe she has attracted only Alphas and then decide they are not actually Alphas. so you think you have managed to Beta-ize all these Alphas and that they aren’t alphas after all? looool
These Guys you have been dating are Beta by definition if i am to believe the behaviours you have described. And also what world are you living in trying to get a ring on your finger after six months?
Alphas don’t put rings on any fingers after any amounts of months. You’ve clearly not dated an alpha, they are those guys you notice but don’t notice you.
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Also the very definition of Alpha is the top 10-20 per cent of most attractive males, so claiming there are not many Alphas is logically true. But it is equally stupid to claim there are NO alphas, because by definition there always will be and they will always have the pick of the girls. Even “alpha” females(looks wise) have a hard time dating and keeping alpha males faithful because of how the sexual market market works the alphas have access to pretty much every girl below them in market value.
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@Str8Up
“Another aspect of social circle game that isn’t often talked about is how to plow through multiple women in the same group without getting shut down.
I have gotten pretty good at maintaining my “free agent” status within my various social groups that gives me leeway to sex multiple women within said group. This doesn’t mean that I don’t get ever get cockblocked, but it does mean that I am able to establish myself as the guy who doesn’t allow one woman to tie him down.”
Some men don’t inspire jealousy in women.
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@ The Realist
‘You’ve clearly not dated an alpha, they are those guys you notice but don’t notice you.’
I agree that (until now) I have never dated an Alpha, just the most alpha like betas I could find. This is sort of my complaint. As for the rest. Yeah… I’ve never not been noticed by a guy I wanted to notice me. Never. I think you’ve maybe just persuaded me that I AM hotter than I think I am. Sweet. Thanks for the confidence boost.
In my experience the guys who call themselves Alphas aren’t. Not even close. They are the guys who can’t keep a girl and then later say they never wanted her anyway, or who can’t get a girl in the first place and insist it’s because they are ‘too Alpha’ for all the girls they know. Or they date almost exculsively girls who aren’t that attractive but think they are Alpha because they have dated many of them.
Also, I wasn’t talking about guys being unfaithful, I was saying they had a low sex drive. Which is different. Don’t get me wrong, I have been cheated on by one guy. I was upset for about a week and then moved on. Nearly a decade later he still occassionally talks about me as the one who got away. And I totally understand why he cheated, since in the whole time we were together I refused to put out.
Thanks for letting me know that so many guys are playing around with drugs and games instead of girls though. It does expain a lot, after all most drugs do reduce a guys libido and ability to get it up. So, if drugs are occupying all you wannabe Alphas, then that just means the real ones should become more visible.
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@ Anonymous
I didn’t mean to be rude i just kind of didn’t get your point about britain. Sure there may be less Alphas than some other countries, but only because there are less men. Now if you had been comparing say, american men and British men or saying that british men in general were less alpha then i could sort understand, there could be a debate.
Also Cannabis, ecstacy and MDMA all INCREASE my libido and sexual ability, but they also come with a myriad of other behaviour and appearance alterations that could make me less attractive to the opposite sex. Alpha is not a fixed a position, status can oscillates and perception is 9/10s of the truth so im sure there are plenty of guys out there getting laid under the pretence of being Alpha when in fact they aren’t and vice versa, general rules are general rules.
Also i think you are still confused about what an Alpha actually is. An Alpha will be doing whatever he is doing, because he wants to, it’s not his duty to crawl out the woodwork and proclaim his alphaness to you, especially if you aren’t THAT attractive. I suggest if you are below an 8/7 in looks, you start throwing yourself at those alphas instead of waiting for them to come to you, that is if you really want a taste.
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Next you’ll be telling me Tony montana isn’t an alpha because he snorts scarface size piles of coke. Get your shit straight MAYNE
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@ The Realist
I guess what I was trying to say is that yes, I think British men must be less Alpha than men in other countries, either that or the men on blogs like this one are totally lying about how Alpha they are.
I don’t need to throw myself at anyone, I have finally found myself a very sexy Alpha man. He’s fantastic, I would love to keep him forever but ya know, I kind of don’t believe in all that ‘happy ever after’ stuff so it seems unlikely. Also, it seems like the only way for an Alpha to stick with one woman would be if he stopped being an Alpha. At least from what you are saying. Ah well, enough of this. I have to leave now. Thanks for an interesting debate.
FYI, be careful with the drugs thing. Seriously, I’m not trying to be a bitch here – at least not about this once point, now. One of my exes used to say much the same thing, and it was true that he became a lot more horny when he was stoned. Just don’t overdo it, because now he’s got major issues in that area which the dr’s are blaming on his drug use. Once in a while probably isn’t an issue, just don’t do it every day for years.
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It’s not just the preciousness of their eggs, but the preciousness of their bodies. Women KNOW their bodies are a lot less attractive after having a kid, so it’s best to hold out for the best possible deal.
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Anonymous, seriously, do not ride the cock carousel regardless of the man’s status. Just don’t.
If you’re already on it, you’ve devalued yourself no matter what you look like, and it’ll hit you as soon as you pass that invisible barrier between skank and old skank.
Just don’t go there.
As a woman, unless your romantic goal in life is to be a desperate cougar (yuk), sugar mama (legit but still on the nasty side), or catlady (spinster with a sad quiet dignity), then your only concern should be whether or not a man is the man in your relationship with him.
If you’re attracting unmanly men, then it’s because you’re behaving like an unwomanly woman. If you behave like a woman, then men will know they have to be men for you.
Don’t concern yourself too much with wider scale alpha cred. That’s for stud horses on the carousel, not for husbands.
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@ Anonymous
Yes being in an LTR does automatically reduce alpha cred unless you are such a player that you can somehow maintain your harem to a standard you could when single. Which is pretty hard nigh on impossible.
Don’t take what the guys say here as typical, CH whilst popular is by no means mainstream(yet), and in many respects he seems to take “game” one step further even than the traditional PUA crowd.
And i will agree there is something up with British men at the moment, maybe it’s because my alphaness has increased in recent times(i don’t think i was ever totally beta/omega however) and i know pity more suckerz. But if you pay attention to what he and his readers say it really doesn’t seem to be much different accross the pond. If anything the men over there seem to be even more blinded with regard to several key areas including marriage and career dependance with regard to women.
And yeah trust me i know the deal with weed, it’s just so fucking good. It makes me better at all kinds of thing not just sex. I bench pressed 400lbs when i was high as shit once, havn’t even tried to get within 40lbs of that since.
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?? I was commenting on the guy(s) who were talking about mentioning porsches and French vacations, Marlon Brando connection,etc. It can’t be dissonant… If someone were so rich wouldn’t they be on golddigger alert and keep it on the low a bit? (Real tells are more like his watch or car he actually did roll up in… Just saying)
Otherwise the post makes sense, and in fact… I’ve seen social climbers play this game with getting in with any sort of fame/power crowd.
Famous/rich/powerful have people trying to make friends with them all the time. It’s easier if you have an in through a trusted “pivot.”
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First: There aren’t two women for every man in NYC.
Second- the men that play and act like jerks in NYC act that way, because that it how the women in NYC want their men to act.
Third: some of the hottest women on earth come to NYC for a few years in their prime to party it up- some stay for a little while, others leave quicker.
Don’t blame the men for doing what it is he does in order to get laid- blame the women that lay him for acting that way.
when i had no game- i had no pussy in NYC. take that for what it is.
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@Laura: “I know several men in their 30’s who live in New York City and seem to be in no rush to settle down. I don’t know if people like that gravitate towards the city or living in the city makes them that way. They are not bad guys, but if a woman is looking for marriage and children, dating them would probably be a dead end.”
If I lived there, I wouldn’t be either. For one thing, you’d have to shack up with some evil chick who lives in NYC. Gavin McInnes laid a mean one down on this very subject:
http://www.takimag.com/site/article/new_york_city_an_elephants_graveyard_for_ovaries/
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Why don’t you just call this “Wedding Crashers Game?”
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@Anonymous, send me BIE, I’ll let you know if you’re hot. I can keep up, ask my gf.
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Situation (has occurred in the past, and likely in the future):
6’2″ guy – Call girl and try to set plans for weekend.
34C – Says she’s traveling this weekend, but wants to meet next weekend.
(several days pass)
34C – Texts Thursday that she wants to get together Friday.
6’2″ guy – Do not respond until Friday AM, saying I’m now busy, but could meet Sunday.
Question:
I didn’t have plans Saturday, but wanted to push back on her a little. Good call? Other suggestions?
Women….bah!
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Lame
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Umm…so Hal’s a plagiarist?
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