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Statements That Imply Your Higher Value

March 29, 2010 by CH

“You’re very brave to come over to talk with me.”

“Your flirting is charming.”

“As we’re sitting here talking I can tell you seem really happy.”

“Wow! Don’t get too excited.” [Note: Not to be used sarcastically. That would be signaling lower value.]

“Hmm. Your hands are shaking.” [Doesn’t matter if they’re not shaking. Use as part of palm reading routine.]

“Hope I didn’t make you wait too long.” [Say after returning much later from talking with friends.]

“Your answers tell me that you are drawn to men who break your heart.” [Use as part of love test routine.]

“You have a… different… sense of humor/sense of style/way of looking at the world.”

“You have a quirky personality. I have a friend — he’s been single a while; I guess he’s picky — who would totally get you.”

“You’re not like most women. You seem like you want to know about me more than you want to talk about yourself.”

“Your eyes are dancing.”

“I have a confession to make. I forgot your name.” [You should say this to every girl at some point during the initial meet, regardless whether you remember her name. I have yet to experience a bad reaction from a girl when I said this.]

“A lot of girls in this city come on too strong with men. I’m glad you can talk with me without getting weird.”

“This is a pleasant surprise. You’re winning me over.”

Saying any of these things to a girl during the course of a pickup will artfully communicate your higher status relative to hers, which will in turn prepare her body for copulation.

PS: Try to use the word “girls” for women, and “men” for men, in your daily conversation.

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  1. on March 29, 2010 at 11:35 am the dude

    first!

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  2. on March 29, 2010 at 11:37 am yohami

    zzzz norting out loud. The face you put when saying any of that is what matters. Skip the dumb routine.

    Whenever anyone tries this they will be wondering “if it worked” and thats precisely what you shouldnt be wondering out there.

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  3. on March 29, 2010 at 12:09 pm maurice

    Also: be richer, smarter, more interesting, better-traveled, better-educated, and probably older than her. Don’t supplicate, and the rest will fall into place. (see SNL skit: “Be Don Draper.”)

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  4. on March 29, 2010 at 12:20 pm greatbooksformen

    omg lozlzzllzzl!

    it is 2010!!

    i cannot believe you dc freakazoids are still talking to women?????

    you know how many cocks they’ve had in their mouths?? lzozlzlz!!

    you see that sperm dripping off her chin??

    and you’re worried about talking to her??

    do you know how the federal reserve /neocon machine has reprogrammed them to become useless cum dumpsters?

    a lawyer chick is first and foremost loyal to her boss, who is loyal to a fiat currency.

    of what use is she to you?

    so what if you neg her and pick her up and put some sperm on her/in her?

    worst case scenario she’ll have a kid and bankrupt you.

    best case scenario you won’t have to kiss her too long and taste teh man that came before you. get it? came before you.!!! lzozlzlzlzlzlzlzlzllzlzlzlzlzlzlz~!!!!

    any effort in strying to get cum dumpster to take your cum is wayyyyyyy too much effort.

    i mean do you try to get dumpsters to take your garbage by talkng to them and negging them?

    do you go up to a dumpster and say, You have a… different… sense of humor/sense of style/way of looking at the world.”

    do you talk to the dumpster out back and say, “You have a quirky personality. I have a friend — he’s been single a while; I guess he’s picky — who would totally get you.” before you throw the trash in it?

    do you talk you urinals before you relieve yourself in them?

    cumming is a biological function, like peeing.

    do you say this to a urinal, “This is a pleasant surprise. You’re winning me over?”

    do you guys neg urinals so as to get them to accept your pee?

    lozlzlzlzlzlzlzlzlzlzlzlzlzlzl!

    lozlzlzlzlzllooooooozeers!!!

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  5. on March 29, 2010 at 12:22 pm Bhetti

    maurice’s reference:
    Don Draper’s Guide to Picking Up Women from Bollot on Vimeo.

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  6. on March 29, 2010 at 12:33 pm Vincent Ignatius

    After they buy me a beer, I like to use.

    “Don’t think you can get me drunk and take me home with you.”

    or the more subtle

    “Are you trying to get me drunk?”

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  7. on March 29, 2010 at 12:35 pm PA

    The lolzlzzlz guy is awesome! best troll ever (and I mean “troll” in a good way)

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  8. on March 29, 2010 at 12:39 pm Charlie

    “Let’s get married and make babies.”

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  9. on March 29, 2010 at 12:45 pm Puma

    And my favorite … “Don’t worry darling. I will not let those pesky Betas change the Family Laws.”

    http://massachusetts-election-2010.com/2010/03/28/cori-reform-blocked-by-rep-eugene-oflaherty-again/

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  10. on March 29, 2010 at 12:45 pm Matt Savage

    I’ve always liked this one if she touches you:

    “Whoa, hands of the merchandise, this shit ain’t free.”

    or

    “Whoa, easy there tiger, what do I look like a piece of meat to you?”

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  11. on March 29, 2010 at 12:46 pm ASDF

    I use the “I have a confession to make” line all the time, because I really am terrible with names. I have never gotten a good reaction to it.

    Nowadays I usually just wait to number close and have them put their name and number into my phone.

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  12. on March 29, 2010 at 12:47 pm Colin Bowel

    “greatbooksformen” gave me a good laugh with that urinal comment. Thanks.

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  13. on March 29, 2010 at 12:52 pm OhioStater

    You say don’t game average girls, but I find that I behave this way naturally when there is a nice gap between my value and her lower value (age, height, income). If she’s a 4 or a 5 then most of the lines come to mind without prompt and my behavior falls in line.

    The lessons of Mystery and Roissy will take hold more effectively if the guy has had a comfortable environment to practice (gaming a 4 or 5) or has seen the real world practical results (attention, dates, sex) of correct behavior

    Obviously the target is a 7, 8, or 9 (I subscribe to the view no woman is a 10), but being seen with a woman will elevate your status in the eyes of the other high status people in the room.

    A positive side effect is although you won’t necessarily be seen as alpha (the goal) being in the presence of a marginally eligible woman then that at least elevates you above the omega muck into beta status.

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  14. on March 29, 2010 at 12:55 pm greatbooksformen

    lozlzlzl!!

    i just took a piss in a urinal and implied my higher value with these eloquent words, ““You’re not like most urinals. You seem like you want to know about me more than you want to talk about yourself.””

    lozzlzlzlzlzl! the other dude taking a piss looked at me with fear in his eyes. haha

    i looked at him and said, “beta dude–you’re lucky to even have a urinal i peed in just yesterday. lzozzlzlzllzzl!”

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  15. on March 29, 2010 at 12:56 pm Silver Fox

    This magic line belies the real #s; some empirical research data.

    Some statistics off a recent Match membership.

    Caveat: Match, internet dating has always been plagued by the fact that the women you will ACTUALLY meet are average….and no better than what one finds at a TGIF….so why pay $50/mo. when you can get that for free at TGIF.

    For example, a recent search in NYC (5 miles radius of SoHo) w. Filtered search results:

    -Age: 22-32
    -White
    -Slender
    -Never married
    -No Kids

    = 2015 women

    Now, I am stickler for no “non-short” women; so if you filter out women below 5’6”; the number drops in half to 1008. I dont think 5’6″ is tall but in match’s absurd eco-system it is.

    Also, if you take off the “slender” weight filter (which is widely abused, with tires/guts, fat-back viewed dates) the number doubles.

    So, in essence the majority of the women on match are either short/stocky and/or fat.

    Now lets drill down on those 1008 Slender/tall women.

    Well, only 10% are above “8”: defined as long hair, pouty lips, large eyes; non-masculine faces, no large noses, pear shapes, no brillo hair, bad complexion, or in general non-symetric features.

    So, if you cut and paste a standard witty email (not a wink). Example of real life email that got 10% it rate on 8+ rated NYC Match women:

    “Hi,

    I understand women dont like winks and want real emails.

    Well this is real…..

    I am normal, apparently good looking, and funny.

    If you want to chat, or see a cute puppy then read my profile.

    Ok, bye.

    “Your Name”

    ps, [if she is 9-10, then add some custom comment based on a quick scan of her profile like: “I love Russian food”; “I was in Tibet”; “I have an invite to a red carpet event on #/#, can u make it”

    with your photo showing a relatively handsome male, with full head of hair, no gut, fit (six pack not req) with photos in: well cut suit, shorts, posh identifiable vacation spot, and 1-3 money shots (ie, photo with hot woman, Porsche or high end car, boat, Polo game, etc.) you can expect 10% replies, which is not far from premium mass marketing results.

    Of these 10 replies you will have to play teasing, tight game, interspersed with some
    back handed compliments to end up with 1-3 actual women you are not embarassed by on off-line dates.

    Now, scanning 1000 profiles is HARD work; it took 2 hours. Emailing took another 2 hours, esp. with comments. The other “grey area” is Match uses fuzzy logic or some random programming assignment as their are profiles that dont appear in the original 1008 line up but are recommended daily by matches search engine. Also, the result counts are often shifting and some large percent of match women dont pay, and are on for free to send free winks (and cant reply in text) or to stalk or spy on men, for unkown motives.

    The BIG positive.

    There are perfect 10s under 25 on Match that do exist, that you will never EVER meet in real life. To break thru their walls you have to have a secret combination of:

    -Statistical parsing to find them
    -Find an angle to draw them out
    -Offer a lure (event, obscure detail of their culture, etc) to intrigue them.
    -Seize the opportunity.

    For basically $1.25/day I would say its worth it to have rolling access to 1-3, 8.5 rated women; and 1 rare 10.

    No back to those lines, testing lines/profile text on 100+ hot women definitely gives you feedback on what works~

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  16. on March 29, 2010 at 1:11 pm greatbooksformen

    omg!

    next time you want a urinal to accept your superiority and your piss too, try these lines on it:

    “You’re very brave to come over and let me pee in you.”

    “Your flushing is charming.”

    “As I’m standing here peeing I can tell you seem really happy.”

    “Wow! Don’t get too excited.” [Note: Not to be used sarcastically. That would be signaling lower value to teh urinal.]

    “Hmm. Your urinal cake is shaking.” [Doesn’t matter if it’s not shaking. Use as part of urinal cake reading routine.]

    “Hope I didn’t make you wait too long.” [Say after returning much later from talking with friends.]

    “Your answers tell me that you are drawn to men who pee on you.” [Use as part of love test routine.]

    “You have a… different… sense of humor/sense of style/way of looking at the world.”

    “You have a quirky personality. I have a friend — he’s been single a while; I guess he’s picky — who would totally pee in you.”

    “You’re not like most urinals. You seem like you want to know about me more than you want to talk about yourself.”

    “Your urinal cake is dancing. or it could just be my pee splish-splashin.”

    “I have a confession to make. I forgot your name.” [You should say this to every urinal at some point during the initial pee, regardless whether you remember her name. I have yet to experience a bad reaction from a urinal when I said this.] lozlzlzl!

    “A lot of urinals in this city come on too strong with men. I’m glad you can let me pee without getting weird.” omg rotfl!!!

    “This is a pleasant surprise. You’re winning me over.”

    lozlzlzlzlzlzlz!

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  17. on March 29, 2010 at 1:16 pm Willy Wonka

    “PS: Try to use the word “girls” for women, and “men” for men, in your daily conversation.”

    Wait, there are other ways to refer to girls and men?!? …. I wasn’t aware…

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  18. on March 29, 2010 at 1:21 pm Jeff

    “You’re not like most women. You seem like you want to know about me more than you want to talk about yourself.”

    Missing why this one implies higher value for the guy. Seems like it puts the girl on a pedestal instead.

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  19. on March 29, 2010 at 1:33 pm sdaedalus

    What’s everyone’s problem with Barbabbs?

    A supremely rational being, he simply takes all the advice given on this site to its logical and natural conclusion.

    In this regard, he is a true pupil of the Chateaumaster.

    [editor: au contraire. my teachings do not rest on the premise that women are urinals.]

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  20. on March 29, 2010 at 1:34 pm sdaedalus

    or should that be Chateaumeister? I’m really not sure.

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  21. on March 29, 2010 at 1:34 pm Anonymouses Anonymous

    I like Mystery’s, “So, what have you go going for you besides looks?”

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  22. on March 29, 2010 at 1:37 pm xsplat

    Sdaedelus, an extreme emotional reaction of disgust is hardly rational. Nor is a strictly utilitarian view of females rational. The use of females includes emotinal needs, therefore to be rational, one must be emotional.

    Wallowing in disgust is petty, churlish, childish, and a sign of a broken little boy spirit.

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  23. on March 29, 2010 at 1:38 pm greatbooksformen

    lozozlzl!

    i think i am growing on people…

    like gonoreah on a dc lawyer chick’s now useless fiat-funded twat.

    lzozlzlzlzl!

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  24. on March 29, 2010 at 1:39 pm xsplat

    ChateauMunster? We’d need the cool theme music to go along with the site.

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  25. on March 29, 2010 at 1:40 pm totalesturns

    Meanwhile, here’s your comedy link of the day: http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/sexist/2010/03/26/fucking-while-feminist-with-jaclyn-friedman/

    I could pull plenty of choice quotes, but instead I’ll let y’all grab some brews and play the “spot the tell-tale signs of desperation” drinking game.

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  26. on March 29, 2010 at 1:40 pm 11minutes

    “I have a confession to make. I forgot your name.”

    I can’t remember names for the life of it. Her repeating her name doesn’t help. One way out is to give her a nickname like “Muffin”. It will stick with her.

    If you #-close you can get her name by having her punch it into your phone together with the digits.

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  27. on March 29, 2010 at 1:44 pm greatbooksformen

    PS: Try to use the word “urinal” for toilet, and “bigcock” for bigcock, in your daily conversation. lozllzlz!

    you will find that never again will a urinal turn you down.
    respect yoyoyo9yoyo!

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  28. on March 29, 2010 at 1:48 pm greatbooksformen

    roissy writes, “[editor: au contraire. my teachings do not rest on the premise that women are urinals.]”

    roissy also writes how he does married women up the ass.

    [editor: i’ve fucked many unmarried girls up the ass. does fucking a girl who likes it up the ass make her the equivalent of a urinal?]

    roissy would never do a urinal up the ass, as he has more respect for urinals than for marriage and women.

    [marriage is a raw deal for men, and so i have no respect for it. women must earn my respect. urinals are inanimate objects incapable of eliciting any emotion from me.]

    next thing you know roissy will be telling us that his teaching rest upn the premise that he his jesus f. christ.

    [my teachings identify more closely with the roman soldier gambling away christ’s clothes.]

    lzozlzlzlz!

    [not a bad troll effort. funnier than chic noir, but not as sublime as david alexander.]

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  29. on March 29, 2010 at 1:50 pm xsplat

    I can’t remember names for the life of it. Her repeating her name doesn’t help. One way out is to give her a nickname like “Muffin”. It will stick with her.

    I’m glad I’m not the only one with this deficit. I also have mild face blindness, and find I can only remember a face that if I’ve developed some sort of emotional connection to the person. Wanting to fuck them doesn’t count.

    As for giving nicknames, this is something I make a point to do early on in dating. It’s a signal of marking territory. When a woman marries, changing her last name means she is now your care and concern. A nickname brands her as well.

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  30. on March 29, 2010 at 1:52 pm sdaedalus

    Xsplat

    I think Chateau Munster would be eminently appropriate given that, whether or not the author of this site likes it or not, Barbabbs is just as much his creation as Frankenstein’s Monster was the creation of Dr Frankenstein.

    [editor: incorrect. while i do breathe life to the id, trollabbs is the degenerate aborted machinosibling of frankenstein, twisted in bitterness and fury, understanding nothing of the gift i give it.]

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  31. on March 29, 2010 at 1:54 pm maurice

    @aunt of Icarus- Chateaumaître, no? Not mixing languages. You were the one who posted that gruesome story set in the Franco-Prussian war, were you not? Apologies if the name is a Joyce reference, as it probably is.

    lolllz dude is strange, but in an entertaining way. Not least because he apparently fucks urinals. Wouldn’t it be funny to walk in on that some time.

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  32. on March 29, 2010 at 1:59 pm The G Manifesto

    “As for giving nicknames, this is something I make a point to do early on in dating. It’s a signal of marking territory. When a woman marries, changing her last name means she is now your care and concern. A nickname brands her as well.”

    That is part of Basic Pimping.

    – MPM

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  33. on March 29, 2010 at 1:59 pm maurice

    p.s. wrong about lollz. you have been posting and reading here long enough to know better – the level of discourse on this site is generally quite high. And your writing and thinking are good enough that you recognize this as well, or you wouldn’t show up every day. So that’s a cheap shot at the site which you know perfectly well is wrong and below you. For shame.

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  34. on March 29, 2010 at 2:02 pm sdaedalus

    Bonjour Maurice!

    Chateaumaître, no?</i?

    Nearly there, but I think there might be a better monicker out there.

    You were the one who posted that gruesome story set in the Franco-Prussian war, were you not?

    Oui, c’etait moi, pour ma peine.

    @aunt of Icarus
    Apologies if the name is a Joyce reference, as it probably is

    Bit of both. In the first version of Portrait of an Artist (my favourite book) Stephen Dedalus’s name was spelt Daedalus, and he had a couple of sisters.

    But I do think that Icarus’s aunt was treated rather shabbily (as with Marie Antoinette, the accusations of incest with her son were entirely unfounded)

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  35. on March 29, 2010 at 2:02 pm greatbooksformen

    roissy writes,

    “[i’ve fucked many unmarried girls up the ass. does fucking a girl who likes it up the ass make her the equivalent of a urinal?]”

    have you ever noticed that girls who like it up the ass aren’t as hot as other girls?

    [editor: no. just the opposite.]

    this is why i strictly hook up with 10s as they don’t ask me to do what i don’t want to do. i don’t want to shove my cock in a hole where poo comes out… and it’s not like there’s another hole close by.

    [i like to spritz a little febreze in there before commencing operations.]

    whatsup with all you sodomites? lzozlzlzlzlz!!!

    lozzlzlzllzzl!

    you and charlotte allen and tucker max. lzozllzlzlzlzlzlzlzlz! you two should double up on her and take turns on her anal cavity.

    [let me get this straight. you hate charlotte allen because she chose to use her article space in the weekly standard to write about something other than virgil?]

    she’s kinda old though, so bring a leaf blower to blow all the dust off it so you don’t get the itchy-scratchies. lzozlzlzlzllzlzzlzl

    [charlotte allen doesn’t come on this blog steeped in self-delusion and spewing lies like the parade of skank whore single moms and whiny bitter fembots this blog usually attracts. that is why i don’t give her shit.]

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  36. on March 29, 2010 at 2:04 pm greatbooksformen

    maurice writes, “lolllz dude is strange, but in an entertaining way. Not least because he apparently fucks urinals. Wouldn’t it be funny to walk in on that some time.”

    lozlzlz! he wants to watch me fuck urinals.

    stay away wierdo!! go join roissy’s tucker max’s, candace allen’s butthex partae!!!

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  37. on March 29, 2010 at 2:09 pm sdaedalus

    You have been posting and reading here long enough to know better – the level of discourse on this site is generally quite high. And your writing and thinking are good enough that you recognize this as well, or you wouldn’t show up every day. So that’s a cheap shot at the site which you know perfectly well is wrong and below you. For shame

    If this is meant for me, I blush & hang my head in shame, but he is still quite funny. It’s nice to have a bit of levity mixed in with the more serious comments, in moderation (and isn’t moderation a solution if the levity starts to grate, too)

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  38. on March 29, 2010 at 2:11 pm sdaedalus

    Besides, Maurice, I’d hate to spoil the Chateaumaitre’s fun. He seems to be enjoying himself with his monster far more than Doctor Frankenstein ever did.

    [editor: that’s true. it’s been a while since we’ve had a halfway decent troll here. and i always give leeway to haters who show some originality and wit.

    btw, i’ve read portrait of the artist three times. “darker than the swoon of sin, softer than sound or odor.”]

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  39. on March 29, 2010 at 2:14 pm Josie says

    This won’t work unless you are hot or the girl is attracted to you physically, i.e, if you’re hot.
    so if you’re not hot, it won’t work.
    I know men don’t like to hear this, but women like and want eye candy too.
    Being sexually stimulated visiually isn’t something only men want.
    Women like seeing sexy Men too.
    so again, if you’re not hot, no amount of routine/game/technique is going to help you.

    [editor: vast experience of millions of men disproves you.]

    unless you want an ugly girl (desperat) or below average like yourself, but even ugly girls think they’re hot and deserve a 10 so she has to be concious of her ugliness which…well, most chicks aren’t.
    Good luck!

    [when you take it up the ass, do you make an adorable little mewling sound? or do you grunt like a warthog? i’m guessing you’re the latter.]

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  40. on March 29, 2010 at 2:16 pm greatbooksformen

    hahahahahah.. roissy thinks i am bitter because he does chix up the ass. l.zozozlzlzlz!! i am so bitter that he does married women up the butt!!! if only i could use my wits to put my cock in poop chutes like roissy in dc!!

    roissy writes, “[editor: incorrect. while i do breathe life to the id, trollabbs is the degenerate aborted machinosibling of frankenstein, twisted in bitterness and fury, understanding nothing of the gift i give it.]”

    roissy is giving you guys the gift of beta loserdom. lzozlzllz!

    note how he says i am “twisted in bitterness and fury” just like feminists tell him.

    roissy is an ad hominem-attacking feminist at heart. lozlzlzl! he can’t stand an alpha stealing his beta spotlight. when you think about all teh effort roissy has spent putting his cock in anal cavities over the years, it isn’t too hard to see him for what he is.

    did john wayne spend his time thinking of ways to trick his dick into anal cavities?

    roissy wants you to think that this is how alphas behave–always seeking to get their cock in anal cavities. WTF? lzozlzlzlz!!

    roissy is a semoralizaed, deconstructed, debauched man, made miserable by bowing beofre teh fiat masters who promised him all the buttsex he wanted for simply bowing down and worshipping beofre them.

    lzozlzl!

    and now he’s king of butthex & sodomy, and he passes this off as an alpha male!!!

    lozlzlzlzlz!

    do you loooozers relaly think that butthex is the mark of an alpha male?

    omg don’t you see hwat’s going on here?

    (note how i have gotten a rise out of roissy. i negged him, and now he wants 2 do me up the butt as what is more alpha than butthex?) lozlzlzlzlzlz!@!!

    [editor: trollbarbs, do you think women are urinals?]

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  41. on March 29, 2010 at 2:19 pm greatbooksformen

    omg i am pwning roissy!!

    & i am doing it without putting my cock in poop chutes!!

    imagine if i was alpha enough like roissy to engage in butthex!!! lzozlllzlzz!

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  42. on March 29, 2010 at 2:20 pm PA

    The worst troll here was that mental case who would lead others in 200-comment circular arguments that always began and ended with “quality girls do not respond to Game.” I don’t want to say its name lest I summon it.

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  43. on March 29, 2010 at 2:26 pm xsplat

    Sure, Josie, but you can be ugly and still be hot.

    Don’t take my word for it. Women talk about this sort of thing all the time. Some ugly guys have a beguiling animal attractions.

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  44. on March 29, 2010 at 2:26 pm maurice

    @lolzz: noted, I’ll just look the other way and let you fuck your urinal in peace.

    @sdeadalus- yes, that was for you, sorry. but levity =!= borderline insanity. our friend barabbas is more like the latter. crucify him!

    so, lady – tell us about your tramp…

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  45. on March 29, 2010 at 2:27 pm greatbooksformen

    [editor: trollbarbs, do you think women are urinals?]

    no.

    [editor: ok. so if women aren’t urinals then it isn’t beneath men to desire to fuck them, and to learn better methods for fulfilling that desire.]

    the urinal analogy is what we call a metaphor i think. lzozozll!

    [that was a given.]

    teh federal reserve has desouled women–taken their souls out and rendered them useless as wives and mothers.

    [fiat bitchery!]

    now they are just there to satiate desires–bodily functions.

    [they also give love.]

    both cum and pee come out of your wee wee roissy.

    [don’t cross the streams!]

    one goes into a urinal and the otehr into a woman’s orifice now and then.

    [peeing feels pretty good, but it doesn’t compare to a space time ripping orgasm.]

    once upon a time this was joined with a greater story–like a woman’s honoring her husband and children.

    [there are two ways to avoid hitching yourself to a woman like this. one, avoid marriage and thereby exempt yourself of the negative consequences of being dishonored by a wife with the state on her side. two, master your game and your powers of discernment and find a woman who meets your qualifications.]

    but today she aborts the kids lzozlzlzlz and cheats on the hiusband lzozllz zand ass rapes him in the courts lzozlzlzlzlzllzllzlzlzllzlzlzl !!

    [i hear ya man, but the law is an immovable object. best to avoid tangling with it at all and getting the benefits of marriage without the notarization. kids are fun sucks, so that’s a non-issue for me.]

    so she has moved across teh spectrum from wife and mother towards urinal. llzzzozlzlzllzz

    [this attitude is a buzzkill in the field.]

    she serves not a fiath nor family, but a debt-based fiat dollar.

    [fiat anal beads!]

    & i am glad you like doing them up the ass dude. when you think about it, a debt based fiat dollar is the opposite of wealth, just like butthex is teh opposite of sex. lozlzlz! you’re workin’ for the fed, roissy! next time you are shoving your cock in and out of her poop chute think of ben bernanke & thank me & spank me! the fiat dollar ass raped america and men as the bankers are smart and they wire billions in fiat funding to women to trun on tehir men and families and chirldren who they kill in tehir wombs. lzozlzlzl!

    and dude–you say that hotter women prefer anal.

    omg lozlzlzlzlz! that is sooooooooooo untrue.

    you must have only been with skanks so you are comapiring buttsex skanks with non-butthex skanks.

    lozlzlzlz!

    [it is usually the loving LTRs that i enjoy the pleasures of the butt with. but hey, the hotness/buttsecks correlation hasn’t been subjected to rigorous science so we’ll just have to settle on arguing in the realm of opinion.]

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  46. on March 29, 2010 at 2:31 pm xsplat

    I feel like John Cleese in his Monty Python character who explains to you that he has a sense of humor, but that that joke is not funny. I feel the total straight man. Because I don’t get the joke. At all.

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  47. on March 29, 2010 at 2:36 pm sdaedalus

    i’ve read portrait of the artist three times

    Somehow that doesn’t surprise me.

    Wasn’t it Joyce who said:

    “Men are governed by lines of intellect – women: by curves of emotion.”

    Any chance of a post on Game as applied in a novel of your choice?

    It would be so excellent to read

    like cold polished stones sinking through a quagmire.

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  48. on March 29, 2010 at 2:39 pm maurice

    teh federal reserve has desouled women

    Thank you, O brilliant lolzzlozzlz !! So the secret power behind the feminist movement was…Alan Greenspan all along? How could we have not seen it before? We were bliind but now we see. your lololzzolzz-itude sweeps all before it.

    she serves not a fiath nor family, but a debt-based fiat dollar

    Genius.

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  49. on March 29, 2010 at 2:40 pm Buzz Kill

    Roissy, when using the line about forgetting her name, whats their typical response and how do you react?

    [editor: i don’t use it right away. after i’ve been chatting with a girl for 15 minutes, i’ll excuse myself to talk to friends. then when i return to get her contact info i’ll say i forgot her name. so don’t use it until you’ve gotten some IOIs from the chick. the reaction has been universally positive. the key line is the “i have a confession to make” part. she will usually say “oh, it’s XXX”, and leave it at that.]

    From experience, they will just tell you their name (usually early on in the conversation), or they will have assed tease you, with a, “I cant believe you don’t remember my name.”

    [if a girl says this, treat it like a shit test. “hilary duff?”]

    So how do you turn this into a positive?

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  50. on March 29, 2010 at 2:40 pm xsplat

    she serves not a fiath nor family, but a debt-based fiat dollar

    Genius.

    I don’t get it.

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  51. on March 29, 2010 at 2:44 pm greatbooksformen

    maurice lzozl,

    it’s not like this is news!!!

    men produce everything and teh divorce regime / feminsit movement was created by the bankers to 1) invade men’s homes, 2) spy on men, 3) transfer wealth from the producers to teh fiat masters/banksters . lozlzlzlz!!!

    http://www.google.com/#hl=en&safe=off&q=feminist+movement+aaron++russo

    lozlzlzlz!!

    http://www.savethemales.ca/001904.html

    “Feminism is an excellent example of how the Rockefeller mega cartel uses the awesome power of the mass media (i.e. propaganda.) to control society.

    In 40 short years, many women have lost touch with their natural loving instincts. Consequently, the family is in disarray, sexual depravity is rampant and birth rates have plummeted. ”

    about all women are good for is what roissy uses them for — butthex urinals. frontsex urinals are too risky as they can get pregnant, an dthen instead of you doing them up the ass, tyhey do you up the ass in child support court lzozlzlzlzl !!!

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  52. on March 29, 2010 at 2:45 pm PA

    You know how Whiskey ties in the necessity of bombing Iran with women’s perfidy in every one of his posts? That’s like the lolzlzlzzl dude, who ties fiat money with chicks in all of his comments.

    The lolzlzlz dude is pretty funny. He’s also Whiskey’s “special” brother Ruprecht.

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  53. on March 29, 2010 at 2:45 pm OhioStater

    Mr Roissy, if a guy subscribes to your world view, should he vote Democrat or Republican?

    The Democratic Party is the natural home of feminism, so it seems the Republican Party is the logical home of men. However, omega males and beta males probably feel like victims and victims find a home in the Democratic Party.

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  54. on March 29, 2010 at 2:46 pm lovelysexybeauty

    Hahah I mean lollzzz at lozzlllzzll great books too funny 🙂

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  55. on March 29, 2010 at 2:48 pm xsplat

    When I see people laughing at the sitcom Friends or Seinfeld, I have no idea why they laugh. I’ve never got even a chuckle out of them. Not even a smirk.

    I’m getting the same feeling for lollzman. I understand what’s supposed to be funny. It just does nothing for me. Nothing.

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  56. on March 29, 2010 at 2:50 pm sdaedalus

    yes, that was for you, sorry

    Apology accepted

    levity =!= borderline insanity. our friend barabbas is more like the latter. crucify him!

    Or, as my august pater would say, drown him?

    so, lady – tell us about your tramp

    I haven’t had the pleasure of meeting him in person yet. I’ll let you know when I do.

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  57. on March 29, 2010 at 2:58 pm collegeboy

    “I have a confession to make. I forgot your name.” … [I have yet to experience a bad reaction from a girl when I said this.]

    You sure man? I remember reading a post where you were trying to score the digits of some chick and you forgot her name so she just hightailed out of there. I can’t recall the exact post or verbatim used but it failed.

    [editor: yeah, it was the experience detailed in that post that inspired me to go with the “confessional” line. that time i was hemming and hawing about remembering her name. worst thing i could do.]

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  58. on March 29, 2010 at 3:02 pm Jacko

    Hey all, this is a little off topic, but I could use some advice. I’m 40 and single, and am returning to school to study algebra. I hated it when I was younger, but have found I quite like it now.

    There’s a girl in my class half my age. Twenty is legal, but still rather young for a guy my age. After class recently we smoked a bowl. (this is Canada). She wants to know if she can ‘friend’ me on facebook. I said sure, of course. Before we parted she gave me a big hug, and I must admit, the old engine kicked over, if you know what I mean.

    My instinct is more fatherly, the age disparity being what it is. Nonetheless, she is young, nubile, and hot.

    Given that we are living in a sexual dystopia and everyone knows it, the question becomes…

    What should I do?

    Any takers?

    [editor: well, as most of my readers know, i only date younger women. sometimes much younger. i don’t like the hug. could be a sign she’s trying to safely contain your sexual essence in the platonic hug of LJBFdom. dress younger, acquaint yourself with the latest music and cultural trends, and game her like any girl, except focus more on negs and perhaps demonstrating status relevant to your age, like cosmopolitanism and travel stories.]

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  59. on March 29, 2010 at 3:10 pm greatbooksformen

    maurice lzozl,

    it’s not like this is news!!!

    men produce everything and teh divorce regime / feminsit movement was created by the bankers to 1) invade men’s homes, 2) spy on men, 3) transfer wealth from the producers to teh fiat masters/banksters . lozlzlzlz!!!

    http://www.google.com/#hl=en&safe=off&q=feminist+movement+aaron++russo

    lozlzlzlz!!

    http://www.savethemales.ca/001904.html

    “Feminism is an excellent example of how the Rockefeller mega cartel uses the awesome power of the mass media (i.e. propaganda.) to control society.

    In 40 short years, many women have lost touch with their natural loving instincts. Consequently, the family is in disarray, sexual depravity is rampant and birth rates have plummeted. ”

    about all dc women are good for is what roissy uses them for — butthex urinals. frontsex urinals are too risky as they can get pregnant, an dthen instead of you doing them up the ass, tyhey do you up the ass in child support court lzozlzlzlzl !!!

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  60. on March 29, 2010 at 3:12 pm xsplat

    Jacko, I don’t understand your question.

    Actually, I understand it perfectly, I just don’t know why you are asking it.

    Actually, I know why you are asking it, it just puzzles me that you should need to.

    Actually, I know why you need to, I just can’t in any way empathize with your dillema.

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  61. on March 29, 2010 at 3:16 pm maurice

    @PA – right. Whiskey has his hobby horses, but nothing like The Man From Lololzzllzz.

    @xsplat- humor is zen-like in that way. You can’t explain the joke without ruining it. But the idea that women’s perfidy is directly connected with government debt and fiat money- well, that’s just funny. And the random lolzlzzlzz-es are like whipped cream on top. I’ve literally been giggling my ass off this thread.

    @lolzzz-

    Rockefeller mega cartel … control society … sexual depravity is rampant

    Better and better. You have developed the women-as-urinal metaphor quite well, even if it’s unattractive. I didn’t see where you were going with it at first. But correct me above – if I’m missing something. How, exactly, is female behavior related to fiat money? Would gold bricks in a vault return them to chastity and fidelity somehow? Seriously, as noted above, I think it’s a ridiculous and funny idea, but then again maybe there is a way that those particular dots can be connected.

    @aunt of Icarus- a trampless lady. How sad. May you find him some day, Pidg. Perhaps even in a venue like this one, where trampy men convene in pursuit of worthy ladies.

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  62. on March 29, 2010 at 3:16 pm xsplat

    Woops – maybe I totally misread you Jacko. You were asking how to game her, not should you game her.

    Right?

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  63. on March 29, 2010 at 3:23 pm xsplat

    Maurice

    @xsplat- humor is zen-like in that way. You can’t explain the joke without ruining it. But the idea that women’s perfidy is directly connected with government debt and fiat money- well, that’s just funny. And the random lolzlzzlzz-es are like whipped cream on top. I’ve literally been giggling my ass off this thread.

    Maybe the decades of heavy alcohol abuse and the few mini strokes have left me mentally impaired, because I don’t have the focus or patience to try to connect such disparate dots. There is no aha moment for me. It just all sounds like nonsense, and boring nonsense at that to my ears.

    Flight of the Concords, Trailer Park Boys, South Park, hell even Shawn the Sheep tickle my funny bone. A genuine insight into human nature that isn’t completely neurotic, something that I can identify with, yet that has new twists and insights. That’ll entertain me.

    As a kid the family would gather around the tube, and all us boys along with Dad would be roaring at Monty Python. Mom would declare that it did nothing for her.

    Now I’m like her. The silliness moves me not.

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  64. on March 29, 2010 at 3:23 pm Juan Rico

    Cheeseball shit like this really does work–sadly.

    But why? Partly, I think the effectiveness of these sorts of lines comes from their playfulness. Girls love a good flirt. A good portion of girls realize these lines are part of a larger game, a narrative to maintain interest, but they like playing that game, and they are attracted to men that play the game well.

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  65. on March 29, 2010 at 3:24 pm PA

    acquaint yourself with the latest music and cultural trends

    Know who Lady Gaga and Kings of Leon is. Never speak of email.

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  66. on March 29, 2010 at 3:25 pm Jeffrey of Troy

    NOT mother?!

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  67. on March 29, 2010 at 3:32 pm collegeboy

    …that time i was hemming and hawing about remembering her name. worst thing i could do.

    Hesitation = Game/GinaTingle Killer

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  68. on March 29, 2010 at 3:32 pm greatbooksformen

    maurice writes, “@lolzzz-

    Rockefeller mega cartel … control society … sexual depravity is rampant

    Better and better. You have developed the women-as-urinal metaphor quite well, even if it’s unattractive. I didn’t see where you were going with it at first. But correct me above – if I’m missing something. How, exactly, is female behavior related to fiat money? Would gold bricks in a vault return them to chastity and fidelity somehow? Seriously, as noted above, I think it’s a ridiculous and funny idea, but then again maybe there is a way that those particular dots can be connected.”

    fiat money is based on a trikle-down lie which is why women, due their sycophantic beleieve naything nature excel in fiat times, as teh fiat masters/mbas surround themselves with women.

    these fiat masters are not true alpha males, but only beta males with fiat dollars lzozlzlzl

    women were fooled into thinking working 80 hour weeks for teh fiat masters is freedom and raising tehir very own chidren and working for their very own family/children is slavery lzozlzlzlzl!

    see–the fiat masters see women as tehir private property, to be desouled and used as temptresses to extract child support and alimony from men of whcih tehir state apparatus gets a cut.

    without a fiat currenyc, tehy could have never funded the fmeinist movement.

    also, as a fiat currency is fundamentally worthless, they need women working for them, so as to convert teh fiat $$$$ into physical property and labor.

    only problem with a fiat currency is that it needs something to bankrupt.

    i mena you can only take so many men by divorce until you have to take off and move to china as the fiat vampires will do once they are done with america. lzozozlzlzl!@

    they give roissy all teh butthex he wants as butthex is the neocon opiate of the masses.

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  69. on March 29, 2010 at 3:35 pm xsplat

    Oh, and I also thought DA was merely an irritating and overly chaffed dick.

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  70. on March 29, 2010 at 3:38 pm Jacko

    No, xsplat, you got it right. Were I back in Thailand living my former life, I would have no problem sating my lust with a female half my age. Indeed, that is expected.

    It’s also true that a woman my age looks as though she’s just climbed Hamburger Hill -and survived. Sorry ladies, it’s the truth. By late 30’s, the jig is up, the game is over, and you may as well have the sexual market value of an 80 yr old grandmother.

    No, the problem I have is with my own middle-class upbringing, and so this poses a dilemma. This girl in my class is a white girl, Canadian, and probably also from a stable, middle-class family. I can’t just bang her…or can I?

    If we do it then she will want a relationship, obviously. What am I going to say when I show up at her father’s doorstep and I’m looking at a guy my age? Then again, she did offer to smoke a bowl with me, so she is not completely innocent, either.

    Thank you for your sage advice, Roissy. I’ll just take my time and game it along as you say. There’s all the time in the world.

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  71. on March 29, 2010 at 3:42 pm sdaedalus

    aunt of Icarus- a trampless lady. How sad. May you find him some day, Pidg. Perhaps even in a venue like this one, where trampy men convene in pursuit of worthy ladies.

    Maurice

    Thank you for the good wishes, you are very kind. In the meantime I will keep trotting along, footloose and collar free, always hopeful of romance and adventure.

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  72. on March 29, 2010 at 3:44 pm Cannon's Canon

    oops, i dropped my monster condoms that i use for my magnum dong!

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  73. on March 29, 2010 at 3:46 pm JB

    “The Democratic Party is the natural home of feminism, so it seems the Republican Party is the logical home of men. However, omega males and beta males probably feel like victims and victims find a home in the Democratic Party.”

    Heh. The key to understanding the Democratic party is that its constituents feel like victims while enjoying policies that, in fact, allow them privileges unavailable to other groups (like whites, males and small business owners among others.)

    I’d say go Independent and support whoever gives you most of what you can realistically expect.

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  74. on March 29, 2010 at 3:48 pm Anonymous

    greatbooksformen interviewed at:
    http://ahappinessexperiment.wordpress.com/2010/03/11/interview-with-an-amateur-anthropologist/

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  75. on March 29, 2010 at 4:07 pm Trimegistus

    Jesus. Even when he’s being interviewed it’s all in lowercase lolcat-ese. I have the worrisome impression that Mr. “Great Books” even talks that way. Forgive me for being dubious of someone who promotes “great books” yet writes like an illiterate.

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  76. on March 29, 2010 at 4:10 pm xsplat

    Jacko, as you’ve spent time in Thailand, you’ll be as over-familiar with the phrase “you think too much” as I am.

    I must be going a bit local, because I’m about to say it to you.

    Seems your impasse is not should you or could you or how could you, but do you want to. That latter question isn’t philosophical. I think you need to sort that out in a body centered way. Maybe sort out the philosophy that way too.

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  77. on March 29, 2010 at 4:11 pm Forbes

    >the urinal analogy is what we call a metaphor i think. lzozozll!

    I think “urinal” was used as a metaphor–no analogy was made.

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  78. on March 29, 2010 at 4:13 pm xsplat

    Trimegistus, you’re just like me. Somehow it’s meant to be a joke. Someone is meant to laugh. Both of us just don’t get it.

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  79. on March 29, 2010 at 4:15 pm sdaedalus

    ??? said 25 minutes ago:

    greatbooksformen interviewed at:
    http://ahappinessexperiment.wordpress.com/2010/03/11/interview-with-an-amateur-anthropologist/

    Oh bliss indeed, thank you so much for this link, it was worth staying in this evening for.

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  80. on March 29, 2010 at 4:17 pm maurice

    fiat masters

    Yeah, those guys are betas. It’s the Maserati Masters who are the Alphas.
    I sense a kind of logic there, but not one correctly connected to the facts. And “desouled” is a very creepy and effective word. Sort of the high point of the rant. And yet souls are not, regrettably, to paper money. So, nice, but you don’t persuade.

    @sdeadalus- well, recall that lady was happily domestic, with her collar, until she was seduced (and protected) by a collarless tramp. Maybe if you dressed less like a 19th-century oil painting you’d find your tramp…?

    @Jacko – make it clear you won’t ever meet the folks – that you’ll be her older-guy fling but not a permanent bf. isn’t that a way to solve your problem? Keep it short-term and fun. but i think roissy’s right about the hug- she may not see you sexually unless you put that across strongly. which you seem resistant to do.

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  81. on March 29, 2010 at 4:21 pm anoukange

    God damnit, greatbooksformen cracked me up with his lines at the urinal, as much as I hate to admit that.

    I think I would pee in my pants laughing if a guy told me my eyes were dancing. You left off shooting the “double guns” at her from across the bar. Implies higher value by make- believing you are from a western and/or disco. Confusing and intriguing.

    [editor: i’ve done that. guns of navarone baby. these muscles ain’t painted on! glib, naturally. the eye line should be executed during a low key rapport stage.]

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  82. on March 29, 2010 at 4:30 pm maurice

    @anonymous-

    GENIUS!!!! I almost fell out of my fucking chair. who is “ahappinessexperiment” ? Is he a regular here?

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  83. on March 29, 2010 at 4:35 pm sdaedalus

    sdeadalus- well, recall that lady was happily domestic, with her collar, until she was seduced (and protected) by a collarless tramp

    Maurice, you have an incredible propensity to make me feel abashed, it is like being six years old again, scolded by my father for jumping in puddles. Since old habits die hard, I promise I will try to remember to wear my collar (absence of collar=tramp stamp?)

    Maybe if you dressed less like a 19th-century oil painting you’d find your tramp…?

    What can I say, despite occasional absence of collar, I am an old fashioned girl. But I am trying to update my look & in this way perhaps come back to life a little (I have not overlooked the references to SDeadalus) If you go over to Anouk’s blog (once you can tear your eyes away from her pictures) you will see I link to a new dress I have purchased, I reckon it at least takes me up to the 60s.

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  84. on March 29, 2010 at 4:39 pm xsplat

    I think I’ve figured out why lolzman is as funny to me as is Seinfeld. I don’t suffer from identifying with the neurosis enough to get any release by seeing it poked fun at.

    Overprotective Jewish mothers on Seinfeld hold no humor value to me. Seeing people try to save face with lies holds no humor value to me. Because I’m a-social enough to never give a fucking fly about saving face, and would never bother worrying about even what my own mother thought. So there is no tension resolved by watching that neurosis lampooned. I don’t feel it enough to get any release by seeing it.

    Same for lolz man. I’ve never felt the emotion of using a woman like a urinal. Not even a smidge. I have no idea what that feeling might be like, nor care to know. So it’s not funny in least to me to have that notion lampooned. It’s making fun of a neurosis that is meaningless to me. As meaningless as a Jewish mother.

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  85. on March 29, 2010 at 4:39 pm barbbabbs

    omg i am so dominatrixing this blog!!

    people know i don’t fuck around no. lzozlzl!!

    all you guys think that it takes game when each inch of game = an inch of lame.

    muhommad does not go to the mountain. the mountain comes to muhommad.

    teh biggest difference between urinals and chix is that i still have to approach urinals to use them. lsoslslslslls!!

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  86. on March 29, 2010 at 4:44 pm Chi-town

    “Saying any of these things to a girl during the course of a pickup will artfully communicate your higher status relative to hers, which will in turn prepare her body for copulation.”

    Oh that is cold.

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  87. on March 29, 2010 at 4:53 pm Doug1

    Maurice–

    Also: be richer, smarter, more interesting, better-traveled, better-educated, and probably older than her. Don’t supplicate, and the rest will fall into place. (see SNL skit: “Be Don Draper.”)

    Well that’s what girls like to tell themselves, and hear others tell them, is the ticket, in some sorted order that varies w/the girl. And no doubt they help a good lot. But if not used with some game and confidence they’re not enough and can certainly be greatly degraded from the effect the effect they should have not to mention the maximum effect they could have.

    As well, the young, more impetuous, more secure in her future (accurately or inaccurately) and yes ok the more sluttily inclined the girl, the less these things much less all of them in combination are required or even the cardinal pull. The cardinal pull comes from making her think you’ll be exciting and thrilling to be with, while not above some real danger threshold for her particular mindset. Game is how to enhance the perception you’ll be these things or close enough, esp. to make the casual or semi casual (fast relationship exploratory) score.

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  88. on March 29, 2010 at 4:58 pm maurice

    @a-of-I:

    absence of collar=tramp stamp?

    nice. but if any of those victorian ladies in the paintings had oil (or figurative) tramp-stamps underneath, well, something’s wrong with the universe. (Even though the only non-Victorian one actually has a collar. Zing!) Tramp stamps are the mark of current or future strippers. Neither you nor lady have that in you, i don’t think.

    I’ve seen anouk’s pictures and i doubt I’ll look around her site just for a picture of your dress. no offense. you could post it on your own blog, though … why not? 1960s like Jackie Kennedy or 1960s like Janis Joplin? Actually, I think I can guess.

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  89. on March 29, 2010 at 4:59 pm Doug1

    Maurice–

    That was one hell of a funny skit though you’re referencing (which Bhetti links), which rightly parodies not only the show but some of the wilder PUA claims. Which yeah I saw ages ago.

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  90. on March 29, 2010 at 5:00 pm whiskey

    Why shouldn’t we bomb Iran? They’ve been asking for it since 1979. Hell bombing them is the ultimate display of Alpha status. I.E. we just don’t care, we are that big and powerful.
    ——————–
    FWIW, White men approve of Obama only 35%, White women 43%. I’m shocked the White male approval is that high. Seems the general proxy for how many Conor Frierdsorfs there are in the US. Obama however is like a brick on a balance scale — sure to smash all the old certainties up.
    ——————-
    Women are not perfidious. Merely hypergamous. And yes its all connected. How could it not be?

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  91. on March 29, 2010 at 5:02 pm sdaedalus

    Sorry Xsplat, I missed your comment earlier

    n extreme emotional reaction of disgust is hardly rational. Nor is a strictly utilitarian view of females rational. The use of females includes emotinal needs, therefore to be rational, one must be emotional

    Glad to see it admitted that females have a function beyond the merely utilitarian (as you might guess, I have never really been very good at being an inanimate object) The interesting thing about Barbabbs is not what he has to say, but the commenters’ response to him, it is the reverse of the Wilde quote that every portrait painted with feeling is a portrait of the artist. He has to be viewed in terms of performance art, teaching his readers something about themselves.

    Wallowing in disgust is petty, churlish, childish, and a sign of a broken little boy spirit

    But we all do it. You’re wallowing in disgust at him now and isn’t it fun. And who doesn’t have a broken little boy (or girl) inside them. We just try to struggle on as best we can.

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  92. on March 29, 2010 at 5:10 pm maurice

    @doug – true ‘nuf. In that list, I left out “whiff of danger”, which is the cad button, not the dad/provider access button, to female sexuality. and said young, impetuous and/or slutty girls incline more towards the cad. however, don draper kind of manages to combine the two, does he not?

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  93. on March 29, 2010 at 5:11 pm sdaedalus

    But if any of those victorian ladies in the paintings had oil (or figurative) tramp-stamps underneath, well, something’s wrong with the universe

    Mais non. Tattoos were very popular among posh Victorian ladyeez.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Randolph_Churchill

    (Even though the only non-Victorian one actually has a collar. Zing!)

    Well spotted.

    Tramp stamps are the mark of current or future strippers. Neither you nor lady have that in you, i don’t think

    I am not co-ordinated enough to be a successful stripper.

    I am too accident prone and would quite literally bring the house down.

    I’ve seen anouk’s pictures and i doubt I’ll look around her site just for a picture of your dress

    Congrats, you’ve passed the “is he gay” shit-test. Dix points.

    no offense. you could post it on your own blog, though … why not?

    Too easy.

    1960s like Jackie Kennedy or 1960s like Janis Joplin? Actually, I think I can guess

    I can’t sing but I can do good dinner party conversation.

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  94. on March 29, 2010 at 5:11 pm jonah g

    @greatbooksformen

    You have me all wrong. Check out my take downs of the kabalist ho of zion herself – Madonna:

    Take Madonna. Not to put too fine a point on it: She was a slut and she preached the joys of sluttiness to everyone, rich and poor, young and old. That made her rich and something of a feminist hero because she was an “authentic” slut, feeling no guilt or shame about it. Today, with millions upon millions in the bank she says she’s not only given up her trampy ways, she realizes she was wrong all along. And, again, she’s being saluted for it in profiles and interviews throughout the media …

    So does this mean that being a slut was a good thing when Madonna said it was a good thing? Were the 16-year-old girls who followed her example in 1985 right for following it then? Were the consequences of following Madonna’s example — pregnancy, AIDS, even (shudder) low self-esteem — somehow nonexistent back then because only the “moralizers” were warning about them? Or could it just possibly mean that the “moralizers” —who were sneered at by the mainstream press — were right all along and that Madonna is only now coming to her senses?

    Of course, Madonna can afford her sins. She says she can “handle” motherhood while at the same time bragging that she’s never changed a diaper.

    http://old.nationalreview.com/goldberg/goldberg050503.asp

    When a woman pushing 50 who looks like she’s been working out in a Bolivian prison yard declares she won’t use her sex appeal as a marketing tool anymore, maybe it’s a tad less courageous than all that? I hear Abe Vigoda just announced he won’t be touting his buns of steel to peddle his line of Old Man Pants either. lolz.

    http://article.nationalreview.com/331081/material-girls/jonah-goldberg

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  95. on March 29, 2010 at 5:19 pm anoukange

    “[editor: i’ve done that. guns of navarone baby. these muscles ain’t painted on! glib, naturally. the eye line should be executed during a low key rapport stage.]”

    -ha, ha. After you approach and chat you can ask her is she wants tickets to the “gun show”.

    “If you go over to Anouk’s blog you will see I link to a new dress I have purchased, I reckon it at least takes me up to the 60s.”

    SD- 60’s with a sexy vibe. The perfect combo, well done lady!

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  96. on March 29, 2010 at 5:19 pm The realist

    LOL @ Silver fox

    The old internet dating thing?

    Better to just get your cock out mate.

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  97. on March 29, 2010 at 5:23 pm Jay

    I love these posts, they’re excellent.

    The I’ve-forgotten-your-name one has to be delivered just right though.

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  98. on March 29, 2010 at 5:28 pm maurice

    @sdeadalus-

    that link says it was a rumor. however, a snake around the wrist would definitely be trampy. makes wonder if there were stripper poles hidden away in Edwardian salons. well, no, there weren’t.

    “is he gay” shit-test

    on this blog? seriously?

    I can’t sing but I can do good dinner party conversation

    i believe both.

    @jonah g- that “lolz” at the end a little suspicious.

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  99. on March 29, 2010 at 5:37 pm barbbabbs

    lolz!

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  100. on March 29, 2010 at 5:38 pm sdaedalus

    makes wonder if there were stripper poles hidden away in Edwardian salons. well, no, there weren’t

    Two words. Mata Hari
    (the English equivalent was a bird called Maud Allan)

    You obviously weren’t a moustached Edwardian gentleman in your previous life, or if you were you didn’t get out much.

    on this blog? seriously?

    Your name is quite gedwardian (gay Edwardian) though. Ever heard of the EM Forster novel “Maurice” – that was quite gay (I think Hugh Grant starred in the Merchant Ivory version)

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  101. on March 29, 2010 at 5:39 pm gig

    Also: be richer, smarter, more interesting, better-traveled, better-educated, and probably older than her. Don’t supplicate, and the rest will fall into place. (see SNL skit: “Be Don Draper.”)

    wanna know a couple things?

    first, Maurice is spot on, as usual. Second, girls being girls thus not exactly able to do productive work, it is pretty easy for guys to out-earn girls the same age, with the “income-gap” growing wider and wider as the age gap grows. Third, the option of traveling alone is much more open to men than girls.

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  102. on March 29, 2010 at 5:40 pm maurice

    also:

    born less than eight months after the marriage

    winston churchill was a unplanned or “gotcha” baby? really? still, the mom was very beautiful based on the daguerrotype pic. so maybe churchill pere was carried away by victorian lust. seriously, that’s probably the first time i’ve ever thought a female in a daguerrotype was attractive.

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  103. on March 29, 2010 at 5:48 pm sdaedalus

    There’s a bit of a debate as to whether or not he was genuinely premature (but Winston was always a young man in a hurry)

    She was a knockout.

    I think she was about forty in that photo too, incredibly well preserved despite (or perhaps because of?) lack of collagen, fillers, skin peels etc.

    She was the ultimate cougar, after her first husband’s death from syphilis, caught from a parlour maid at Blenheim around the time of Winston’s birth (also denied by the Churchill Foundation, natch)

    she married again twice, on both occasions to very good looking men considerably younger than her.

    Sadly, died of gangrene after falling down the stairs in new slippers (one of her greatest beauties was her tiny feet)

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  104. on March 29, 2010 at 5:49 pm Peter

    fiat money is based on a trikle-down lie which is why women, due their sycophantic beleieve naything nature excel in fiat times, as teh fiat masters/mbas surround themselves with women.

    these fiat masters are not true alpha males, but only beta males with fiat dollars lzozlzlzl

    women were fooled into thinking working 80 hour weeks for teh fiat masters is freedom and raising tehir very own chidren and working for their very own family/children is slavery lzozlzlzlzl!

    see–the fiat masters see women as tehir private property, to be desouled and used as temptresses to extract child support and alimony from men of whcih tehir state apparatus gets a cut.

    without a fiat currenyc, tehy could have never funded the fmeinist movement.

    Ok, this guy is obviously a little bit off his rocker. Is he really saying that abandoning the gold standard and floating the currency is what enables feminism?

    Here’s a counter-argument. Canada has a floating dollar but it’s an oil producing country which de facto means the currency is backed by oil, and floats along with the oil price rather than being under the full control of a central bank. Canada is a much more “feminist” country than the U.S. Therefore the “fiat currency” argument (lzzollz?) doesn’t really make sense.

    Get back on the medication, motherfucker. Then come back here. (Lzzolllzz… zozol etc.)

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  105. on March 29, 2010 at 5:50 pm maurice

    @s-daed: point taken, there was debauchery. but not stripper-like tramp stamps. and said debauchery, i understand, was limited to the upper classes, who, then as now, had the economic and social luxury to pursue deviance. i doubt mata hari plied her trade while hopped up on X and deploying fake boobs.

    “maurice” is a nom de web, of course, and it derives from a well-known american rock anthem from the 1970s, if you must know. one commenter called me a “dead bee gee” once, which i thought was quite creative, but this is the first i’ve been suspected of being gay. you wound me to the quick, my love. must not be giving off that tramp vibe. and yes, i suppose i did know about the Forster novel, but … well, let’s just say I can relate a lot more to the SMB song.

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  106. on March 29, 2010 at 5:51 pm Silver Fox

    “The realist
    LOL @ Silver fox

    The old internet dating thing?

    Better to just get your cock out mate.”

    Well when you get a 10, let me know

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  107. on March 29, 2010 at 5:56 pm barbbabbs

    Peter lololllllzoer.

    stop lozllzling on your peter peter.

    man up and seek the truth

    take the red pill

    http://www.newswithviews.com/Levant/nancy75.htm

    “Women’s “rights” are disallowed definition by culture, religion, personal opinion, or any other social definition minus the feminist movement. In today’s world, we have no choices as women, whatsoever, but to agree to the think tank morality written and coded by this global movement. The feminist movement is no different than the global environmental movement, the global healthcare movement, the global education movement, or the global economy movement. All are social re-engineering tactics used to forward the take over of all world governments, economies, and cultures, and to force all commoners into the custom-made livelihoods and service of corporate-based governors. According to this government, we have no choices but to accept them all.

    The “governors” are the world’s wealthiest industrialists and bankers. Their one-world government hands all power and control of people, land, water, food, human health, children and education, employment, militaries, and economic potential directly to themselves and their personal fortunes. Over and over and over again, when you tie corporate wealth and power to governing agencies, you have Fascism. However, the long-term goal of a one-world government has always been to bring Communism to fruition on a global scale. So, today, we see a hybrid Fascist-Communist system by Three E design, and it is bitterly obvious in every nation on the planet. Almost all global economies are crashing by design, and particularly America’s economy. Note that America’s elite pulled their investments out of the U.S. years ago.

    The feminist piece of the global puzzle deals specifically with depopulation through women’s “healthcare,” big pharma, and the “mental health” industrial complex. Women’s rights are now defined by the right to abort, the right to be drafted, and the right to take drugs that will render women and children incapable of bearing children. And just as many women worldwide earned the right to own property, that right has now fallen to other plans, which state that no “individual” may own private property. ”
    –http://www.newswithviews.com/Levant/nancy75.htm

    lozlzlzl !!!!

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  108. on March 29, 2010 at 5:57 pm sdaedalus

    there was debauchery. but not stripper-like tramp stamps

    There was a lot of debauchery but one usually had to pay money for it; now it’s free. Maybe not tramp stamps, but there was certain clothing for instance, that identified one as looking for custom, so to speak, so many nuances of dress, posture etc.

    “maurice” is a nom de web, of course, and it derives from a well-known american rock anthem from the 1970s

    Yes, although somewhat tone-deaf, I had figured that out. However you’ll have to forgive me, I was still smarting from the reference to my old fashioned costume, and couldn’t resist a gentle bite. Sorry.

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  109. on March 29, 2010 at 6:14 pm maurice

    @a-of-I: well I thought I was complementing you on the costumes, even as i was encouraging you to remove your collar. but no harm, no foul.

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  110. on March 29, 2010 at 6:14 pm Peter

    However, the long-term goal of a one-world government has always been to bring Communism to fruition on a global scale. So, today, we see a hybrid Fascist-Communist system by Three E design, and it is bitterly obvious in every nation on the planet. Almost all global economies are crashing by design, and particularly America’s economy. Note that America’s elite pulled their investments out of the U.S. years ago.

    Uhuh, very interesting. So when do you get to the part about the blood of Aryan babies being the source of the chemicals in Vampire Viagra for the J00z?

    “One World Government” conspiracy theories are kind of amusing but they miss a key point – that people are different, and they don’t get along so easily. The European Union is a nice example for that. We see that with a little strain on the system, suddenly the Germans don’t want to bail out the Greeks anymore. The whole enterprise collapses because it runs out of money to pay everybody off.

    So then what makes the One World Government such a threatening possibility? If a few Western European countries can’t work together to create a functioning federal country, what’s the likelihood of a One World Government coming together at any point?

    For opinions from non-crazy people, try this:
    http://www.amazon.ca/Collapse-Globalism-Reinvention-World-John/dp/0143050133

    It’s called “The Collapse of Globalism and the Reinvention of the World.” Try giving it a read.

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  111. on March 29, 2010 at 6:17 pm greatbooksformen

    lollz!

    peter is a little ad hominem betamale attacker.

    he is probably 5 7 balding and fat and needs viagra to get up even with hot hotties who he never sees anyway because of his betaness.

    lzozlzl!

    what a loozer–beta males hate the truth as they have so much invested in the matrix’s fiat lies like cypher from the matrix loxlxllzlzlzl

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  112. on March 29, 2010 at 6:25 pm Jacko

    @xplat, maurice:

    Your reading of the situation is spot on. Thanks for that, and cheers to you both.

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  113. on March 29, 2010 at 6:26 pm Doug1

    maurice–

    however, don draper kind of manages to combine the two, does he not?

    Yuup.

    An observation I made long ago when aoefe was brand new around here, that seemed to start getting her a bit hot and bothered for a bit, in excited agreement.

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  114. on March 29, 2010 at 6:40 pm Keith

    “women must earn my respect.”

    Which they earn by rejecting you.

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  115. on March 29, 2010 at 6:45 pm sdaedalus

    Maurice (who else) wrote:-

    @a-of-I: well I thought I was complementing you on the costumes, even as i was encouraging you to remove your collar. but no harm, no foul

    Oh dear, Maurice, you missed your chance.

    You should have invited me to a spaghetti dinner when my collar was off earlier.

    Now it is back on (thanks to your chastising me) and I have to go.

    As Lady would say, I should have been home hours ago.

    Lovely talking to you btw, I’m sure we’ll meet here again at some stage.

    As I sense a developing interest in Edwardian erotica, I’m going to leave you to ponder the following link (nothing like the Daily Female for a bit of historical prurience)

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1259670/A-love-seat-fit-king-The-antique-chair-gives-eye-popping-insight-Edward-VIIs-debauched-youth.html

    Try to work out who sat where.

    Best wishes
    SDaedalus

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  116. on March 29, 2010 at 7:16 pm anoukange

    “You’re very brave to come over and let me pee in you.”

    “Your flushing is charming.”

    “As I’m standing here peeing I can tell you seem really happy.”

    “Hmm. Your urinal cake is shaking.”

    “Your answers tell me that you are drawn to men who pee on you.”

    “You’re not like most urinals. You seem like you want to know about me more than you want to talk about yourself.”

    “Your urinal cake is dancing. or it could just be my pee splish-splashin.”

    “A lot of urinals in this city come on too strong with men. I’m glad you can let me pee without getting weird.”

    Simply classic! I didn’t even know what a urinal cake was up until a year ago. Mint? Really? Stay clear of the women who are ok with golden showers fellas, even if they are minty fresh, it’s a bad sign.

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  117. on March 29, 2010 at 7:21 pm Rivelino

    Roissy, I feel like I need to start paying you. You are really helping me get out of my beta mindset. I’ve watched “Say Anything” too many times, I was brainwashed as a teenager. Thanks buddy, you are really doing a service to mankind.

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  118. on March 29, 2010 at 7:35 pm Brody

    “Baby, I’ll be the icing on your urinal cake.”

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  119. on March 29, 2010 at 7:55 pm anoukange

    Hey now, Say Anything is a great movie:

    Beta? or Balls?

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  120. on March 29, 2010 at 8:00 pm barbbabbs

    to0m leykis explains teh urinal thing

    lzozlozlzllzlzl!

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  121. on March 29, 2010 at 8:10 pm Bhetti

    Speaking of urinals, I have to see this huge poster (left) every time I go to pick up my sister from school:

    It’s pretty gross.

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  122. on March 29, 2010 at 8:15 pm Pupu

    Pupu has given the urinal some thoughts. There is a virgin-like quality about this one at least:

    Too bad, pupu won’t fit in 😦

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  123. on March 29, 2010 at 9:19 pm Jaquarvis

    Whenever the topic strays onto the issue of genital size, I usually bring this one up:

    “At least I’m not a clit-dicked white boi”

    Works everytime. Amirite?

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  124. on March 29, 2010 at 9:44 pm dana

    way too verbose

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  125. on March 29, 2010 at 9:46 pm fgf

    “You’re not like most women. You seem like you want to know about me more than you want to talk about yourself.”

    I don’t understand what this is ment to convey.

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  126. on March 29, 2010 at 9:48 pm shel

    hmm…

    i wonder if lolzlzlzolzlzozloloolzz isn’t on to something.

    could he be catching a new conservative wave, laced with contempt for Roman Republicans?

    kind of like a neopaleocon?

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  127. on March 29, 2010 at 9:53 pm shel

    lolzlzololololzzz’s writing conveys a clever irony.

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  128. on March 29, 2010 at 9:56 pm barbbabbs

    Omg lolz the repulitards arre worse than the liberals lolz.

    Tomorrow sean hannity will be speaking at the reagand library. Mark levine was there a few weeks ago. And all the dc sluts keep taking roissys cocka up their arses.

    Sean hannity and mark levine need to stop trying to claim reagans mantle and they need to install but blugs on womens anuses so s to stop all the sodomy. The problem with talk radio is all they do is talk talk talk like aknitting group, but never man up and take action.

    Hannity lost our freedom.

    Loloz!!!

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  129. on March 29, 2010 at 10:08 pm ElleDee

    You must be trying to eliminate the competition by suggesting they use these lame-ass lines.

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  130. on March 29, 2010 at 10:22 pm barbbabbs

    Republicans never criticize butthex but rather their neocon ladies exalt butthexers such as the lying douchebag tucker max in the pages of the weekly standard as the more cocks roissy and tucker stick itno chix asses the more fucked up chix will be incapable of families and stick sevring the fiat matrix lolozzllzlzlz.

    Think bout it.

    Would you marry a chick who has taken aq cock up her buttt and then taken that cock in her mouth which will someday be kissing your kids and sending them off to school iif she doesn’t choose to aborththem lolz¡!!!

    Charlotte allen and the neocons know that by getting as many cocks up poop chutes as possible like their hero tucker max alpha male whose lies they repeat in the weekly standard does is their best hope for killing the family dead.

    Republicans hate conservatives far more than liberals do. Lolzooozozl!!

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  131. on March 29, 2010 at 10:24 pm chic noir

    r not a bad troll effort. funnier than chic noir, but not as sublime as david alexander.]

    miss me much:lol: . I know, I have that way of growing on men, even those with the coldest hearts. Even for the seniors, there’s nothing like a woman with wide hips,small waist,round booty and a bleeding heart.

    [editor: it’s funny watching you hater drones chase down false leads.]

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  132. on March 29, 2010 at 10:34 pm chic noir

    sdaedalus and maurice are in e-love.
    *chic noir gives a big smile*

    thank God she left my default alone.

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  133. on March 29, 2010 at 10:35 pm chic noir

    it’s funny watching you hater drones chase down false leads

    huh?

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  134. on March 29, 2010 at 10:43 pm ahappinessexperiment

    i think barbbabbs is just trying to take game to the next level.

    chicks may dig assholes, but they really love a pure evil bastard. it takes an Attila the Hun or Henry Kissinger to play game at that level.

    commit a genocide and you will get your cock sucked by the hottest chicks in the land.

    it isn’t hate. it’s just game. nothing personal.

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  135. on March 29, 2010 at 10:45 pm barbbabbs

    Omg a haha funny chick with her little titty tatty nicknamey aingsongy funnyy haha like a chick presenting her vagina to a group of men lolz and watching them fight to impress her lolxzlzoozozzlzlz.

    Its funny watching us she says lolzozlzllzlzozozlz.

    note how she offers no content nore intellect, but like a woman, shw just shows up and stamps her feet and presents like those gazelles on the discovery channel lolzozlzoozo!

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  136. on March 29, 2010 at 10:50 pm barbbabbs

    To argue with a woman is to lose. To ignore her is to win. Lozlzllzl!

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  137. on March 29, 2010 at 10:58 pm Breeze

    “To argue with a woman is to lose. To ignore her is to win”

    That idiot just hit on some good advice.

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  138. on March 29, 2010 at 11:02 pm barbbabbs

    Lolzozol!!! Omg I made a smarty comment lolz!

    Charlotte allen look out I will be writing 4 da weekly standard exalting neocon fiat funded butthex not u!!! Lolozozoozoozozozlzlzozzlzozllz!!!

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  139. on March 29, 2010 at 11:19 pm Trimegistus

    zlzozlzozlzozl seems to be trying “genuinely insane game” in which you mimic the symptoms of some DSM-IV mental illness to play on women’s buried desire to have sex with a crazy person. How’s that working out, dude? Is the International Banking Conspiracy letting you have any pussy yet?

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  140. on March 29, 2010 at 11:34 pm chic noir

    what ever happened to gunslinger?

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  141. on March 29, 2010 at 11:34 pm barbbabbs

    Omg yes helicopter ben doesn’t just drop money out of his helicopter but he drops pussy too via all the fiat funded feminist classes which teach chicks to slut it up and hop on cock. Roissy forgets to thank big ben because roisyy prefere to think that his spell check software and thesauras are what are leading to all his pussy lolzoozozzlzl!

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  142. on March 30, 2010 at 12:10 am sdaedalus

    Chic writes

    SDaedalus & Maurice are in love

    We are past first grade now, it is possible to have a civilised conversation with a member of the opposite sex without necessarily having to claim them as one’s own.

    thank God she left my default alone

    “my default” lol I love you to bits Chic but again we are past first grade now.

    PS: Don’t count your Chick-ens before they’re hatched.

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  143. on March 30, 2010 at 12:34 am xsplat

    sdadelus

    But we all do it. You’re wallowing in disgust at him now and isn’t it fun. And who doesn’t have a broken little boy (or girl) inside them. We just try to struggle on as best we can.

    Nonsense. Feeling disgust, even strong disgust, is not wallowing in it. Wallowing is when you make it a chosen lifestyle. There is a distinction that is one of spirit.

    On the one hand you decide that you are in charge, as per the serenity prayer.

    “God grant me the serenity
    to accept the things I cannot change;
    courage to change the things I can;
    and wisdom to know the difference.”

    On the other hand you are a victim of other peoples brutality and selfishness.

    Wallowing constantly crying poor me, the world sucks so bad. Constantly bitching about the state of females, the state of the government, the weather, pollution, whatever.

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  144. on March 30, 2010 at 12:38 am White Woman

    Off Topic

    sdaedalus,

    Just read “Here’s to you, Mr Rochester: Game in Jane Eyre”. Brilliant.

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  145. on March 30, 2010 at 12:53 am maurice

    well, sdaedalus, chic said e-love, not love. which is a sort of e-attraction, as distinct from the real thing. You did express regrets that we didn’t have a lady-and-the-tramp spaghetti dinner, and left me with the image of a decadent but beautiful art-nouveau sex device. what’s a man to think? 😉 pleasant e-chatting with you too, my e-love.

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  146. on March 30, 2010 at 12:53 am Topher

    I am starting to worry that Mad Men is filling the girl gap that opened when Sex And The City ended. Apparently women like to watch other women become sexually loose at the behest of a fictional alpha male?

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  147. on March 30, 2010 at 12:56 am Peter

    Re: the lzollzz guy.

    You know, I had always wondered what would happen when that crazy dude who used to hang out on the streets with cardboard signs protesting against Mind Control Software ever figured out how to go to a public library and use a computer.

    And now I have my answer.

    Thanks lzzolzz dude. Do you want a few dollars to buy some wine? C’mon, if you spend it on real stuff you can forget that it’s a fiat currency. Thet comez from teh butsexx of the Jonah Goldberg noecons lollzzzz!!!!

    Seriously dude your mind is broken. Find a psychologist.

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  148. on March 30, 2010 at 12:56 am sdaedalus

    xsplat

    not a huge fan of the victim thing, I think we’re in agreement here. but there is such a thing as turning one’s disgust into an art form..

    white woman

    thanks, you are very kind, Mr R was a great character to write about, such fun.

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  149. on March 30, 2010 at 1:04 am hugh briss

    Don’t cross the streams… It would be bad… At the urinal

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  150. on March 30, 2010 at 1:06 am xsplat

    Yup, there sure is such a thing, Littleyoungladydog. I love satire.

    But for satire to work, to be funny, you have to agree with the premise of that what is being satirized is depicted with insight. As Homer Simpson explains “It’s funny because it’s true”.

    So lolzman (or girl) must really be internally conflicted at how to treat women.

    I personally don’t have that conflict. So I can’t see it as satire. It’s not true therefore it’s not funny.

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  151. on March 30, 2010 at 1:16 am xsplat

    Consider the TV sitcom Threes Company. The theme of every show is somebody is lying in order to save face, and they get caught out in their lie. Every show. The show revolves around social self esteem.

    For many post adolescents, they are not obsessively concerned with how other people view them. So the show seems ridiculously neurotic, and we can’t imagine how any male older than 12 would have the least bit of interest in it.

    I’m starting to think lolzman is a woman. Which is strange, because it’s usually only men who are quite that insane. She’s a woman who is sexually conflicted at how she likes to be treated like shit.

    I’ve personally resolved the madona/whore conflict, a long time ago. There is no tension there for me. All women are devilish whores. No conflict. You can love them while peeing on them. No conflict.

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  152. on March 30, 2010 at 1:16 am sdaedalus

    thank you maurice, am flattered but perhaps bit early for e-love, term “love” in any sense should not be used too lightly, one does not surrender one’s e-heart on the promise of a spaghetti dinner or following some minor erotic bandinage.

    PS do you think Lady put out too easily? These disney films can be a bad example to impressionable young bitches.

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  153. on March 30, 2010 at 1:19 am Peter

    I am starting to worry that Mad Men is filling the girl gap that opened when Sex And The City ended. Apparently women like to watch other women become sexually loose at the behest of a fictional alpha male?

    Yep, it’s true. A feminist commented on this a while back, on a blog for “bitch magazine”.

    The quotation:

    An even better example of cognitive dissonance in Mad Men’s audience happened in last season’s famous scene between Don Draper and Bobbie Barrett. In a stunningly physical display of male domination, Don grabbed Bobbie’s hair, inserted his hand into her vagina, and ordered her to compel her husband Jimmy to apologize to his clients. She complies.

    When I watched the scene myself, though, I thought – how masterfully they’ve set this up! This is the dark underbelly of Don’s charm, revealed! And they’ve even set it up so that he’s using his sexual dominance of Bobbie to make her do something that will benefit him professionally! Oh I can’t wait to see what people have to say about this!

    And the reaction at Jezebel was typical of what I heard in most corners of the internet: shocking – but sexxxaaaaay!

    Gentlemen, more proof, if you ever needed it, that Feminism is just one giant shit test. Even as she “complains” about the reaction of her fellow feminists to this, you can feel the moisture dripping from her snatch. The link, for those with a strong stomach.

    http://bitchmagazine.org/post/mad-men-i-love-you-but-your-fans-are-freaking-me-out

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  154. on March 30, 2010 at 1:26 am xsplat

    You know how in sex ed class there were those few guys who openly tittered?

    Lolzman is tittering about the subject of rough sex. He’s adolescent in his approach.

    I don’t titter. I pull my loved one hair, slap her face spit on her, call her daughter, make her come and come, then lie on her in union.

    Sometimes I piss on her.

    Nothing to titter about.

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  155. on March 30, 2010 at 1:29 am Rum

    barbabbs

    Lewis Carrol could write “jabberwocky” that was clever and readable. You are no Lewis Carrol.
    The art form that you you are attempting can only work if you focus on, and master, the musicality of the sounds of your mis-spelled words when spoken aloud. What the words (ie, your private spellings) LOOK like on the screen is perhaps deeply meaningful to you but don’t expect me to care very much about it.
    Poetry is given a “license” to bend spellings for the same reason Eric Clapton gets applause when he bends the strings on his guitar. – Because it SOUNDS good.
    “Poetry” Look it up. It is probably findable in Wikepedia.

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  156. on March 30, 2010 at 1:32 am sdaedalus

    xsplat

    But for satire to work, to be funny, you have to agree with the premise of that what is being satirized is depicted with insight. As Homer Simpson explains “It’s funny because it’s true”.“It’s funny because it’s true”

    barbabbs is taking some of the ‘sphere ideas and carrying them to the next level. If as has been argued here women have no control over their actions, they are merely animals, which is only one step up from inanimate objects [i agree that many women do not exercise any control over their actions, but this is not to say that they cannot do so…lazy woman’s excuse]

    I personally don’t have that conflict. So I can’t see it as satire. It’s not true therefore it’s not funny….. There is no tension there for me. All women are devilish whores. No conflict. You can love them while peeing on them. No conflict

    Riddle me a question: do you pee on them because you love them or love them because you pee on them? Either way, you don’t find barbabbs funny b/c he makes you feel guilty. Me, not being a man, I don’t have that conflict.

    So lolzman (or girl) must really be internally conflicted at how to treat women.

    I personally don’t have that conflict. So I can’t see it as satire. It’s not true therefore it’s not funny.

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    on March 30, 2010 at 1:16 am xsplat

    Consider the TV sitcom Threes Company. The theme of every show is somebody is lying in order to save face, and they get caught out in their lie. Every show. The show revolves around social self esteem.

    For many post adolescents, they are not obsessively concerned with how other people view them. So the show seems ridiculously neurotic, and we can’t imagine how any male older than 12 would have the least bit of interest in it.

    I’m starting to think lolzman is a woman. Which is strange, because it’s usually only men who are quite that insane. She’s a woman who is sexually conflicted at how she likes to be treated like shit.

    I’ve personally resolved the madona/whore conflict, a long time ago. There is no tension there for me. All women are devilish whores. No conflict. You can love them while peeing on them. No conflict.

    i think barbabbs makes you fee

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  157. on March 30, 2010 at 1:35 am sdaedalus

    Sorry, too much cut ‘n paste in last comment, everything below “I don’t have that conflict” is from Xsplat’s original post rather than yrs truly.

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  158. on March 30, 2010 at 1:38 am Badger Nation

    Peter,

    I have never seen so much as an episode of the show but I’m glad to see I’m not alone in noticing its chick-porn effect.

    I would venture to guess that the show appeals to women because of two factors:

    -A rugged, powerful alpha-masculinity that does not exist in today’s “dudes are dumb” TV programming.

    -A setting in a bygone environment where women didn’t really have to do “hard work” and if they did work in offices did so in lower-pressure support roles (which incidentally provided them a front-row seat to a culling process for beta males.)

    It’s worth noting that even as they tear down men, women across America simultaneously complain about how there are no “real men” left, and that plenty of supposedly-empowered women try equality in the workplace and find maybe they actually wanted the stay-at-home role after all.

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  159. on March 30, 2010 at 1:42 am Rum

    Remember the SouthPark episode when the guys write a stupid, purely scatological “novel” about nothing except their stupid scatological obsessions?
    The adults all made up elaborate notions of what deep truths the book was imparting – because they were not really sure what the book was trying to say and were desperate to avoid admitting it.
    Afterall, it feels risky to stand up and say, “This author has no cloths on”. I mean, who wants to go first at that?

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  160. on March 30, 2010 at 1:44 am xsplat

    puppy – “Riddle me a question: do you pee on them because you love them or love them because you pee on them? Either way, you don’t find barbabbs funny b/c he makes you feel guilty. Me, not being a man, I don’t have that conflict.”

    No, you really don’t get what I’m saying.

    I’m guessing you have an emotional block that prevents you from getting what I’m saying. It would probably somehow undermine or threaten your sense of self if you understood what I’m saying.

    Guilt is a sign of internal conflict. Honestly, the madona/whore complex is completely resolved in me. There is no conflict. No tension.

    I love them therefore I pee on them. I pee on them with dominating lust and power and love and seduction and union and joy and fun. It’s a display, it’s a game, it’s an expression of interest. It’s passion.

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  161. on March 30, 2010 at 1:47 am maurice

    @sdeadalus- OK, if e-love is too scary, than e-affection, e-flirtation, whatever. just don’t call me gay any more and i’ll be happy. (harrumph.)

    and i’m not convinced lady actually put out – disney characters seem to always be genitally challenged. maybe that’s in the outtake loop from the 50s: lady and the tramp rutting by the train tracks. but i doubt it. the spaghetti kiss is as far as they got in disneyland, and it’s a lovely moment. the flawed message is that bad boys, from the wrong side of the tracks, are always good at heart and will protect the innocent rich bitch. well, usually not.

    where do *you* think edward deployed himself on the love seat? i can think of several positions.

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  162. on March 30, 2010 at 1:48 am xsplat

    “Afterall, it feels risky to stand up and say, “This author has no cloths on”. I mean, who wants to go first at that?”

    I do.

    That’s why I can’t laugh at Threes Company.

    I’m not obsessively concerned with others opinions of me, therefore the show is not relevant, therefore the satire is pointless and puerile.

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  163. on March 30, 2010 at 1:48 am anoukange

    We need a nickname for the lloozlllozz guy, I don’t feel like scrolling back up seven times to get the spelling right.

    He’s kind of smart regarding DC politics…scary.

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  164. on March 30, 2010 at 1:50 am dysfunction junction

    Wow this castle guy has some decent pickup tips to go with his real estate advice.

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  165. on March 30, 2010 at 1:51 am xsplat

    “OK, if e-love is too scary, than e-affection, e-flirtation, whatever.”

    FRIEND ZONED!

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  166. on March 30, 2010 at 1:52 am maurice

    @rum- that one was last week.

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  167. on March 30, 2010 at 1:56 am maurice

    @xsplat- it’s the Internet, my friend. a purely virtual world, where the written word is the only interface. e-friends are certainly OK in that sense. i can’t pee on sdaed, so i will banter wittily with her instead. right, my e-love?

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  168. on March 30, 2010 at 1:58 am xsplat

    You’ve been virtually friend e-zoned.

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  169. on March 30, 2010 at 2:12 am sdaedalus

    @sdeadalus- OK, if e-love is too scary, than e-affection, e-flirtation, whatever. just don’t call me gay any more and i’ll be happy. (harrumph.)

    why do you men always have to categorise things immediately? i’ve said it before in relation to the female rating system & I’ll say it again here, putting everyone & everything into little boxes is a defence mechanism. you might want to just take a step back & go with the flow (of conversation that is, not urine. although you and barbabbs are both pure gold)

    i’m not convinced lady actually put out – disney characters seem to always be genitally challenged. maybe that’s in the outtake loop from the 50s: lady and the tramp rutting by the train tracks. but i doubt it. the spaghetti kiss is as far as they got in disneyland, and it’s a lovely moment

    Please. Are you saying those puppies were found at the bottom of a pot of spaghetti? Or brought by the doggy stork? Do the maths.

    the flawed message is that bad boys, from the wrong side of the tracks, are always good at heart and will protect the innocent rich bitch. well, usually not

    The message is that we are all capable of change when circumstances require it.

    where do *you* think edward deployed himself on the love seat? i can think of several positions.

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  170. on March 30, 2010 at 2:15 am sdaedalus

    where do *you* think edward deployed himself on the love seat? i can think of several positions.

    do tell then, I bow (or should that be kneel) to the wisdom of yr experience

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  171. on March 30, 2010 at 2:21 am sdaedalus

    i can’t pee on sdaed

    Don’t even think about it if you value yr manhood.

    so i will banter wittily with her instead

    Witty banter is always welcome

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  172. on March 30, 2010 at 2:23 am Rum

    Legend has it that Jennie Churchill had a tatoo of a serpent coiled around her wrist which she could cover or uncover on a whim – while sitting at the most Victorian of Victorian dinner tables.
    Like everything else, the family denies the story.
    On the other hand, no one doubted that she could have told exactly what that chair was for.

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  173. on March 30, 2010 at 2:31 am sdaedalus

    you have an emotional block that prevents you from getting what I’m saying. It would probably somehow undermine or threaten your sense of self if you understood what I’m saying

    i’m tempted to say, projecting much, but I’ve always felt that to be a lazy argumentative device.

    you may well be right about the emotional block (we’re all emotionally damaged in some way, why should i be any different?) but the more likely explanation unfortunately is that i have not read your comments properly, i will go back and read them again.

    I love them therefore I pee on them. I pee on them with dominating lust and power and love and seduction and union and joy and fun. It’s a display, it’s a game, it’s an expression of interest. It’s passion

    Pee as performance art & assertion of life force, wow.
    Well, at least it’s free (no government grants needed here)

    I will go back and read your comments again as I have probably missed something, apologies.

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  174. on March 30, 2010 at 2:32 am maurice

    @a-of-I-

    why do you men always have to categorise things immediately?

    actually, my first sentence ended in “whatever” – a pretty clear sign, i thought, that i am not trying to categorize anything – just having some e-fun. agreeing with you, basically. but mixing in some sexy talk as well.

    Forgot about the puppies under the Christmas tree at the end, but that’s after the obligatory Disney implied wedding – after the tramp is living in the rich girl’s home. So offscreen rutting only, sanctified by cartoon tradition.

    that’s the flip side of the same coin, the positive outcome of the same situation. Sometimes it works out that way in real life, but usually it doesn’t. Disney cartoons, and Hollywood in general, need an uplifting ending for the requirements of storytelling; the world has no such requirement.

    well the missionary-position-equivalent on that device is clearly edward’s heels at the bottom, one partner up top, and another lying underneath. the latter, however, would have to be quite athletic to please him from that position.

    not experience – a guess. but you can kneel before me any time, my e-love. 😉

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  175. on March 30, 2010 at 2:42 am maurice

    i can’t pee on sdaed

    irony alert. mockery aspect missed first time around. see: urination theme in the thread. life force? just gross, imho.

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  176. on March 30, 2010 at 2:48 am xsplat

    People enjoy being subjected to amateur psychoanalasys as much as they enjoy free advice, but in the interest of following along in my humor-as-resolving-internal-conflicts theme, Maurice you seem to show some internal conflicts in the areas of good/bad boy, where the bad boy is not just edgy but abusive and disgusting.

    That attitude generally gets the man friend zoned.

    The madona whore complex, good boy/bad boy complex is sexually disastrous.

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  177. on March 30, 2010 at 2:50 am xsplat

    Oops – that was the wrong conclusion to that thought train.

    I meant to say that the reason you find lolzman funny is that you have this internal conflict that needs resolving in you. You see it as titteringly hilarious to pee on a girl and treat her bad, because you wall off that part of yourself that wants to do that. There is internal tension that the humor releases.

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  178. on March 30, 2010 at 3:01 am sdaedalus

    actually, my first sentence ended in “whatever” – a pretty clear sign, i thought, that i am not trying to categorize anything – just having some e-fun. agreeing with you, basically. but mixing in some sexy talk as well

    yes I know, but I couldn’t pass up the opportunity for a general rant

    Forgot about the puppies under the Christmas tree at the end, but that’s after the obligatory Disney implied wedding – after the tramp is living in the rich girl’s home. So offscreen rutting only, sanctified by cartoon tradition

    puppy gestation period = 9 weeks, check colour of leaves when they wake up post-spaghetti & count to Christmas, a cynic might say he knocked her up with a view to moving in (even tramps have a sell-by date)

    that’s the flip side of the same coin, the positive outcome of the same situation. Sometimes it works out that way in real life, but usually it doesn’t. Disney cartoons, and Hollywood in general, need an uplifting ending for the requirements of storytelling; the world has no such requirement

    Agreed, but one shouldn’t set one’s expectations too low either (people will always live down to low expectations), it is a question of balancing hope and reality, this goes back to my earlier point about fools rush in and all that..

    well the missionary-position-equivalent on that device is clearly edward’s heels at the bottom, one partner up top, and another lying underneath. the latter, however, would have to be quite athletic to please him from that position

    I think you’re omitting to consider the stirrups.

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  179. on March 30, 2010 at 3:02 am xsplat

    A year or two back I used to always say that I hate good people. I was trying to draw people in to a discussion about this principle of embracing your shadow side. If you must identify with the good guy, and must identify your mate as the good girl, you are doomed to fighting demons. Internal demons, and external demons.

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  180. on March 30, 2010 at 3:09 am sdaedalus

    i have to work shortly but before i do i must say that XSplat’s psycho(anal)ays is very interesting but somewhat oblique, practically Jungian, an executive summary for lay(sorry!)persons would be very helpful

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  181. on March 30, 2010 at 3:11 am sdaedalus

    demons, wow, the plot thickens, could you give us maybe a 10 point summary (the cliff notes version? psych in pictures? (on reflection, scratch the latter))

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  182. on March 30, 2010 at 3:20 am xsplat

    Yes, of course it is Jung influenced.

    (What is the word for post pubescent young dog? Not puppy.)

    I would have thought the concept of embracing your inner demons and owning them, and learning to enjoy being Machiavelian while at the same time having empathy and affection for others would have been self evident. But maybe that’s just because of the Buddhist and introspective culture that I surrounded myself with during the formative twenty something years.

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  183. on March 30, 2010 at 3:36 am sdaedalus

    What is the word for post pubescent young dog? Not puppy

    Whelp is the best I can come up with.

    I appreciate the gentlemanly behaviour of commenters on this thread in avoiding the term “bitch” also the obvious collar & cuffs joke.

    I would have thought that the whole concept of embracing your inner demons and owning them, and learning to enjoy being Machiavelian while at the same time having empathy and affection for others would have been self evident

    There’s a lot of juggling going on there, so many different balls in the air, how could internal conflict possibly be avoided?

    Learning to enjoy being Machiavelian while at the same time having empathy and affection for others=patting myself on the back for being nice to people so long as they don’t get in my way?

    Embracing inner demons good though, but demons have a way of multiplying when one isn’t looking, it is a constant job to get to know the next generation of demons.

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  184. on March 30, 2010 at 3:40 am sdaedalus

    Got to get to work though (do you guys ever sleep?) but enjoyed the discussion.

    Look forward to that 10 point summary on multitasking & demon management (there’s a best-selling self-help book there somehow: choose a man to complement one’s inner demon? follow one’s inner demon in choosing a man, Demons in America? Guardian demons?)

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  185. on March 30, 2010 at 3:43 am sdaedalus

    Xsplat

    One further issue occurs. Your point on embracing one’s shadow side is a good one but there is a fine line between demonic embrace & demonic possession; if the shadow side takes over, this defeats the point. Apologies if I am misunderstanding you again.

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  186. on March 30, 2010 at 3:43 am xsplat

    There’s a lot of juggling going on there, so many different balls in the air, how could internal conflict possibly be avoided?

    Learning to enjoy being Machiavelian while at the same time having empathy and affection for others=patting myself on the back for being nice to people so long as they don’t get in my way?

    Embracing inner demons good though, but demons have a way of multiplying when one isn’t looking, it is a constant job to get to know the next generation of demons.

    No no and no. It’s really very simple. Extremely simple. Being selfish is not bad. Being lustful is not bad. Knowing how to manipulate other by fully understanding your own human nature as well as theirs is not bad.

    There is no tension, as long as – and this is the key – you are not invested in seeing yourself as a good person.

    It’s simple.

    The need to self identify and to identify ones friends as good creates an artificial boundary between concepts. Makes nuance impossible. Makes manipulating others clumsy.

    If you can’t love a slut, you can’t love.

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  187. on March 30, 2010 at 3:55 am xsplat

    sdaedalus

    Xsplat

    One further issue occurs. Your point on embracing one’s shadow side is a good one but there is a fine line between demonic embrace & demonic possession; if the shadow side takes over, this defeats the point. Apologies if I am misunderstanding you again.

    Yes, of course you are misunderstanding, because you rely on a false premise about what creates goodness.

    People are naturally good. We aren’t socialized into being good. You have to have brain damage through trauma or retardation coupled with abuse as a child to become antisocial. People find it very difficult to be antisocial.

    Fully embracing yourself, all of it, winds up with a perfectly healthy and adjusted adult.

    There is no fear of any dark corner. It all get integrated into a healthy functional whole.

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  188. on March 30, 2010 at 3:57 am sdaedalus

    I’ll have a think about this, this is very interesting.

    No one is really good or bad in the abstract, definition of “good” person varies from society to society, but viewed from a self-interest point of view some people are better for one than others.

    Would agree that if one can’t love a slut (or a tramp), can’t love. But there is a difference between the ability to love someone and allowing oneself to do so (the fact that someone can do something, does not mean that they are obliged to do so) It would not be wise to allow oneself to fall in love with someone who is bad for one.

    Also, being kind to people is very important, it may not always trump self-interest, but sometimes it does, & that’s the amazing thing.

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  189. on March 30, 2010 at 4:02 am xsplat

    But there is a difference between the ability to love someone and allowing oneself to do so (the fact that someone can do something, does not mean that they are obliged to do so) It would not be wise to allow oneself to fall in love with someone who is bad for one.

    Embracing ones demons and shadow side does not mean self-lobotomy or throwing away all distinctions.

    It’s a simple matter of discarding pretty lies.

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  190. on March 30, 2010 at 4:04 am sdaedalus

    Okay that makes sense, I think I have finally got what you were talking about with your last comment.

    To the extent that this is related to your earlier post on knowing women are devilish whores & loving them anyway, which gave rise to all this, I think there is a distinction between the occasional devilish whore tendency and actually being a devilish whore though, a bit like the distinction between being having narcissistic traits & being a fully fledged narcissist.

    Got to go, thanks again for clarifying that though.

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  191. on March 30, 2010 at 4:11 am xsplat

    The nature of women is the nature of a devilish whore.

    All women.

    Now, if your personal woman becomes a private whore, then all is good.

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  192. on March 30, 2010 at 4:56 am Mopenhauer

    Are women biologically programmed to reward cruelty, evil and domination?
    Of course any complaints that girls go for bad boys and jerks instantly labels one a nice guy beta males. To the extent that it is possible, I actually consider myself somewhat of an impartial outside observer. I was an omega jerk in JR and high school, and to an extent my whole psycho personality, worked and I had girls literally chasing me. A lot of it might have been self-delusion but some measures were objective. After that I was in nearly complete isolation in college. So I’ve never played the role of the bitter nice guy. I have NEVER done anything nice for a girl or anyone my entire life! So I think I have some claim to impartiality, and my position that my deep depression and heart anguish is purely on a metaphysical level.

    I read a lot of PUA seduction Game literature. At first my logic was it pays to learn all tools of rhetoric, persuasion and oratory even if I intended to put it to different uses than PUA.

    Anyway to put it at its simplest. In cavemen times women were just plaything rape slaves for the strongest ape. And that is what evolutionary psychology in chimpanzee and gorilla behavior proves. Now there might have been some brave women who defended their freedom to the death, but their selfish genes were lost to history. And the genes that all modern women have inherited is those who submit to the cruelest caveman with biggest club.

    I don’t know for me it is pretty hellish to live in a world where all men are sadists and all women are masochists.

    According to PUA science male physical attractiveness barely matters at all, the only thing women find attractive is brute domination and sadism.

    For the last year I’ve completely cut myself off from humanity. Who wants to live in a world of pure evil? Only evil is rewarded! Cruelty is the only virtue. What good is morality and ethics?

    So I’d like an outside opinion do you feel that women are biologically programmed to reward cruelty, evil and domination?

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  193. on March 30, 2010 at 5:10 am xsplat

    Quoting myself:

    I’ve never felt the emotion of using a woman like a urinal. Not even a smidge. I have no idea what that feeling might be like, nor care to know. So it’s not funny in least to me to have that notion lampooned. It’s making fun of a neurosis that is meaningless to me. As meaningless as a Jewish mother.

    And contrast that to the fact that I’ve peed on every girl that I’m sexually into.

    If you can make sense of the seeming conflict, you’ll get what I mean about embracing your shadow.

    There is no conflict. The tension is resolved internally. The deliberate degradation becomes an act passion, lust, affection, even love.

    Its your coke and your codeine too.

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  194. on March 30, 2010 at 5:19 am xsplat

    Mopy

    So I’d like an outside opinion do you feel that women are biologically programmed to reward cruelty, evil and domination?

    M, you may be interested in the philosophical concept of transcend and include. It means transcending our base natures with a higher nature, yet including them as incorporated into our full being.

    In practice it might mean transcending rape with loving communion, but including rape play in your sexual habits kit.

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  195. on March 30, 2010 at 5:37 am Xsplat

    In other words, you use as a tool your base nature as an expression of your higher nature. You slap her ass, not out of anger and disrespect, but out of respect for her nasty sexual nature. You choke her, not out of a need to diminish her, but out of respect for the entire dance of mutual communion. You piss on her, not because she is contemptible, but because you want to show her that nothing is too filthy about her – you embrace it all to the extreme.

    All these base natures in us become causes of celebration and communion. Used to good ends.

    Got it?

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  196. on March 30, 2010 at 5:58 am maurice

    @xsplat- as you know, I dig your thinking and worldview, and your lifestyle, even though I think there’s a fair amount of contradiction that you yourself haven’t resolved. In particular, how you can claim that your lifestyle is based in any way on Buddhism. (Jungianism, sure. I get that.)

    As for me, astute readers who have bothered with my comments know i don’t really have an ounce of bad boy in me. Neither are my comments a pumped-up Internet persona to strut around; I am what I seem to be.

    With that in mind, there is actually not a part of me, not even a little bit, that wants to pee on a woman. Sex, yes; excretion upon, no. They don’t really mix. I don’t think it’s “titteringly hilarious,” i think it’s gross. Whatever demons I have are well under control, and integrated as well as they’ll ever be. Not in need of Jungian therapy to heal anything, that I’m aware of. But thanks for the interest.

    @sdaed- come on now, gestation periods aren’t part of the script in a kid cartoon from the 50s. you are seriously overthinking this. Yes the lesson is a positive one, I agree with you – hope and change (ouch – did I just write that?) over determinism, etc. But earlier you suggested that there’s a dangerous message, a downside of the upside, to the effect that lady was being encouraged to put out. I was only suggesting that that that dangerous message might be for young ladies to expect hope and change, and happy endings, when in real life they are far less common than in the movies. the female expectation of happy endings, that they can CHANGE! their man to make him more like the one in their dreams and fantasies, is actually the root cause of much unhappiness in relationships.

    i think there actually be some missing pieces to the device – big pillows, maybe a low-slung chair at the back. Default position for the girl on the bottom would then be raised to come around underneath the future king, between his legs, sucking his balls or licking his ass as he does the top girl. Over to you for confirmation, my e-love, as you are the one with an evident passion for the subject of Edwardian erotica.

    also xsplat and I are not insomniacs – just not in US time zone.

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  197. on March 30, 2010 at 5:58 am xsplat

    No matter what aspect of your personality you embrace, it will naturally fall into place as part of a larger puzzle. It’s not possible to become Dr. Jekyl/Mr Hyde, if you embrace your inner Hyde. Rather you will be integrated.

    And the same strategy is used when dealing with others. It’s not possible to have a madona/whore complex once you see and accept the whole of people.

    Our inner and outer demons transmute into allies. We use them to advantage.

    It’s only when the mind is subdivided into segments, like a citrus fruit, that we can’t allow ourselve an integrated personality. An integrated worldview.

    Taboo is what keeps us from becoming integrated. It maintains our personality as segmented. Jekyl/Hyde.

    The devil, or Hyde, is not something to fend off and be wary of. The devil is merely Pan. Our hairy legs, musky balls, and dangerous horns. Part of us that is neither good nor bad, but just inescapably is. To reject it is to create evil. To accept it is to use our tools.

    All the acts of dominance and submission that feminists hate are putting Hyde into a box, and that creates evil.

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  198. on March 30, 2010 at 6:00 am Xsplat

    Woah, slow down there Maurice. I don’t claim my lifestyle is based on Buddhism. I’m mentioned my Buddhist history and it’s influence, past and current.

    Not the same.

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  199. on March 30, 2010 at 6:05 am xsplat

    when in real life they are far less common than in the movies. the female expectation of happy endings, that they can CHANGE! their man to make him more like the one in their dreams and fantasies, is actually the root cause of much unhappiness in relationships.

    I’m going to nuance that up a bit, M. Guys do get captured by women all the time. High T men settle down, get monogamised, and their T drops.

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  200. on March 30, 2010 at 6:07 am xsplat

    “As for me, astute readers who have bothered with my comments know i don’t really have an ounce of bad boy in me. ”

    Yes, and we’ve also noticed your fascination and disgust with how women are attracted to it.

    Now we’ve seen how you find the lampooning of the extreme unintegrated view of dominance as funny.

    The fact that this makes you laugh is a certain sign of internal conflict being resolved by the humor.

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  201. on March 30, 2010 at 6:15 am xsplat

    I mean, that’s what laughter is. It’s the resolving of seeming opposite views into a coherent whole. An aha moment.

    Without conflict, there is no laughter.

    Even slapstick resolves the opposite views of empathy and schadenfreud.

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  202. on March 30, 2010 at 6:19 am xsplat

    And M, it’s not true that you have no ounce of bad boy in you.

    You are not AWARE of the bad boy inside you.

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  203. on March 30, 2010 at 6:22 am Breeze

    @ xsplat: “Wallowing constantly crying poor me, the world sucks so bad. Constantly bitching about the state of females, the state of the government, the weather, pollution, whatever.”

    An apt description of the modern hipster/estrogen induced culture we live in now.

    “I’m starting to think lolzman is a woman. Which is strange, because it’s usually only men who are quite that insane. ”

    That troll is an act and you are right, probably a woman or wounded mangina from the amount of emotional butthurt they’re spewing out. They are not insane, merely pretending.

    @ anoukange: “He’s kind of smart regarding DC politics…scary.”

    Perhaps he is some bitter DC lawyer that Roissy spurned. Or one of his mates pulling shit. Or maybe R stooping to get attention now that his former insane troll has her own blog and no longer posts here.

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  204. on March 30, 2010 at 6:31 am Anonymous

    Toga! Toga!

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  205. on March 30, 2010 at 6:42 am sdaedalus

    daed- come on now, gestation periods aren’t part of the script in a kid cartoon from the 50s. you are seriously overthinking this

    Yes I may have been winding you up a bit here, though one shouldn’t underestimate the level of attention to detail in Disney movies.

    I was only suggesting that that that dangerous message might be for young ladies to expect hope and change, and happy endings, when in real life they are far less common than in the movies. the female expectation of happy endings, that they can CHANGE! their man to make him more like the one in their dreams and fantasies, is actually the root cause of much unhappiness in relationships

    Yes that is correct, one has to accept people as they are. How many of us want to be changed to suit someone else, any one with a reasonable amount of self-belief wants people to like us as we are, not as they feel we should be. The Svengali/A Star is Born situation never ends happily for either party. Dietrich didn’t stay with Von Sternberg, nor did Garbo with Schiller. People resent being changed.

    i think there actually be some missing pieces to the device…………….

    I’m not going to transcribe the rest of it other than to say that this image is going to stay in my head all day, and not in a good way.

    I suppose it was my fault for asking you to elaborate, but did you really need to be quite so graphic? At least you have the benefit of imagining your attractive Edwardian lady friend en flagrante, but I am left with the unappealing bloated figure of Edward VII. It is really quite unfair.

    Still, the famous quote from Mrs Churchill, that it is so tempting to try the most difficult thing possible, does take on added resonance in light of this recent discovery.

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  206. on March 30, 2010 at 6:45 am sdaedalus

    PS Rum, sorry I missed your comment earlier. The above quote from Mrs Churchill may be of resonance to you too.

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  207. on March 30, 2010 at 7:10 am maurice

    Yes, and we’ve also noticed your fascination and disgust with how women are attracted to it.

    this is quite true. but you’re getting the humor/internal conflict thing wrong. the laughter earlier in the thread was about lollzz and his deadpan interview with ahappinessexperiment. that is described perfectly by your theory of laughter as resolution of cognitive dissonance, even though you repeatedly said you didn’t get the joke.

    You are not AWARE of the bad boy inside you

    this is the yin-and-yang thing, I suppose. fair enough. i stay away from that kind of analysis because I think shrinks are 90% quacks. but any frame of understanding that’s been around as long as that probably has *some* value to add.

    @a-of-I: yes, you did invite me to fill in the blanks, so you can’t blame me for having done so. But really, in light of the dogma of female hypergamy, isn’t it somewhat expected for a woman to have sexual thoughts/images of a king, however bloated? He isn’t so bad looking in the pics, and … he’s a king. i suppose, though, that hypergamy doesn’t apply to a dead, historical figure, whose status and power are long gone. otoh, you appear to have a certain cultural and sexual fascination with that period — and that’s cool — so maybe a little role-play in the imagination would spice up those thoughts, if they’re unavoidable today. I myself don’t usually conjure up Edwardian images in my sexual fantasies, so Ill be OK continuing to regard it as an art-nouveau curiosity antique.

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  208. on March 30, 2010 at 7:31 am sdaedalus

    But really, in light of the dogma of female hypergamy, isn’t it somewhat expected for a woman to have sexual thoughts/images of a king, however bloated?

    Nope. Sorry for my lack of hypergamy here. There might be a slight ego-boost if he took a shine to me, but that wouldn’t translate to wanting to go to bed with him I’m afraid.

    He isn’t so bad looking in the pics

    We clearly have very different tastes in men.

    You appear to have a certain cultural and sexual fascination with that period

    Not particularly, I think you are reading a bit too much into my persona here. The Victorian & Edwardian propensity for facial hair would be a bit of a passion-killer for me I’m afraid. My interest in the period is from point of view of its propensity to illustrate that human nature doesn’t change very much over time.

    so maybe a little role-play in the imagination would spice up those thoughts, if they’re unavoidable today

    No such luck. You’ve effectively neutered SDaedalus for the day with that image.

    I myself don’t usually conjure up Edwardian images in my sexual fantasies

    Always good to share, but possibly TMI for such a short acquaintance

    So Ill be OK continuing to regard it as an art-nouveau curiosity antique

    That’s good.

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  209. on March 30, 2010 at 7:52 am xsplat

    this is the yin-and-yang thing, I suppose. fair enough. i stay away from that kind of analysis because I think shrinks are 90% quacks. but any frame of understanding that’s been around as long as that probably has *some* value to add.

    It wasn’t yin/yang theory I was alluding to. I’m of the opinion that socialization is forever merely a veneer.

    The Ancient Romans relished the gladiatorial games. You share the same basic human makeup as they do, and no socialization will ever eliminate this human nature in side you.

    My suggestions here have been to transcend and include. To uncover the inner cave man and use him to good effect.

    It will get you out of the friend zone.

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  210. on March 30, 2010 at 8:07 am Laikastes

    I’m not into the pissing on people thing, but xsplat’s thought processes as shown in his writing are clearly informed by Buddhism, as well as by one of our mutual favorite writers, Ken Wilber (although I think Ken may have jumped the shark in the last few years). In my experience, some of the issues that xsplat addresses tend to arise as a result of meditation or sustained self-examination. Also, the Jungian aspect is there because Jung was heavily influenced by Asian philosophical and mystic tradition.

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  211. on March 30, 2010 at 8:38 am anoukange

    SD said-
    “PS do you think Lady put out too easily? These disney films can be a bad example to impressionable young bitches.”

    –Good one. All of their female leads put out too early, but Disney covered their bases by making the gals marry the men they gave it up to. (yeah, I’m sure they all lived happily ever after too)

    xsplat said-
    “I meant to say that the reason you find lolzman funny is that you have this internal conflict that needs resolving in you. You see it as titteringly hilarious to pee on a girl and treat her bad, because you wall off that part of yourself that wants to do that. There is internal tension that the humor releases.”

    –and sometimes a nut is just a nut. Your reading too much into it. Many men and all of this talk of game reads too much into things. Aren’t men supposed to be the more mellow sex? You know, relaxed (for real though, not acting relaxed), easy-going, not sweating the small stuff and all that jazz.

    Rum said-
    “The adults all made up elaborate notions of what deep truths the book was imparting – because they were not really sure what the book was trying to say and were desperate to avoid admitting it.”

    –this happens a lot in the art world as well. I will be conducting an experiment with marking my paintings that are actually well done at their adjusted true cost (in the hundreds) and then I will paint a few that are nothing but poo abstract ones and jack up the price and watch the ignorant, the shallow and the image obsessed drool over them and get out their check books. People make something out of nothing all the time and others make millions off of their need to make everything significant.

    xsplat said–

    “Fully embracing yourself, all of it, winds up with a perfectly healthy and adjusted adult.

    There is no fear of any dark corner. It all get integrated into a healthy functional whole.”

    –now that is very deep and quite true. I would argue that one must control the pace at which they explore and embrace all fears, but once you have, you are an enlightened spirit. And of course, the rules play differently for men and women. You do pull very much from Buddhist philosophy an this.

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  212. on March 30, 2010 at 8:39 am sdaedalus

    It will get you out of the friend zone

    If that’s intended to be a sly dig following on your earlier comments about Maurice being in the efriend zone,

    I am not going to be used as a stick to beat Maurice with

    (although he is in the doghouse after that earlier comment)

    My whole point was that we zone people too readily.

    If your comment was not so intended, I apologise and will say no more.

    As I have to get back to work now, I’ll refrain from commenting on Caveman Game.

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  213. on March 30, 2010 at 8:41 am anoukange

    side note: The friend zone is not certain death. It is sometimes used as a holding tank until she decides what to do with you.

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  214. on March 30, 2010 at 8:45 am xsplat

    You know, relaxed (for real though, not acting relaxed), easy-going, not sweating the small stuff and all that jazz.

    Whatever.

    La la la. 😉 Happy breezy airy day.

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  215. on March 30, 2010 at 8:47 am maurice

    @sdaed- looks like i unintentionally weirded you out. if so, sorry. what did you expect, though, when you introduced the theme of Edwardian debauchery into a blog like this? even articulate nice guys are going to take the bait. you mentioned you’d be carrying that explicit image around in your head, so I was only trying to make it a happier one. if it helps to clear your mind, please go back to the image of all those puppies under the Christmas tree.

    also, this

    I myself don’t usually conjure up Edwardian images in my sexual fantasies

    was in response to this

    At least you have the benefit of imagining your attractive Edwardian lady friend en flagrante

    so if it was TMI, it was in response to a like suggestion.

    @xsplat- gladiatorial combat is only one of many human pasttimes, one that is a plausible frame for describing all other human activities as “socialization” upon, but it’s not the only one. You could just as easily start from the frame of a corporation, or a whorehouse, or a kibbutz, or a university, or a monastery. they’re all equally persistent kinds of institutions. i hear you on the caveman thing though. i’m definitely too rarely in touch with my inner William Hurt. but at the end of the day, if the caveman is not front and center in a man’s personality, it’s a little ridiculous to try to force it.

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  216. on March 30, 2010 at 8:47 am xsplat

    That was a dig, in case it wasn’t obvious.

    I loathe airheaded chick talk. Talk Lite.

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  217. on March 30, 2010 at 8:48 am xsplat

    anoukange

    side note: The friend zone is not certain death. It is sometimes used as a holding tank until she decides what to do with you.

    Blah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

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  218. on March 30, 2010 at 8:53 am xsplat

    “but at the end of the day, if the caveman is not front and center in a man’s personality, it’s a little ridiculous to try to force it.”

    Sure. And I’m not suggesting the caveman is a core principle upon which other socializations rest. I was trying to suggest that the many facets of ourselves, including the dominant and aggressive facets, can be uncovered and explored, at our leisure, and that rather than becoming a dangerous debauchery, can instead enrich our full selves such that we are more rounded and capable, especially as lovers and seducers.

    Hence the whole notion of pissing on someone can lose all tension of it being obscene, in the most extreme example.

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  219. on March 30, 2010 at 8:55 am anoukange

    xspalt-

    dude, calm down, it was a reference to how any women need/want their men to generally be the relaxed one. Talking “lite” as you say has its place as well in the conversation. I wasn’t digging at you when I wrote it, just saying here is a time and a place to read into things and I’ve often noticed guys (and gals) over-analyzing the simplest things.

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  220. on March 30, 2010 at 8:55 am sdaedalus

    Maurice

    I know you meant well, it is just we have been so recently acquainted. I have really enjoyed our chats though.

    Anouk

    That image certainly casts new light on the idea of fishing for love. I would hope that the holding tank would not be self-contained & that the fish could swim in and out at will.

    Xsplat

    Sorry for lowering the tone.

    But remember, everything that irritates us about others can lead us to an understanding of ourselves (Carl Jung)

    This applies to Barbabbs too.

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  221. on March 30, 2010 at 8:59 am Karl Smith

    For comiments use ” I’m liking” rather than I like and never the presumption of fact.

    Example:
    Good: I’m liking the red hair
    Worse: I like your red hair
    Worst: Your redhair looks great

    I also like i’m digging, I think I might be into and I think your ___ might be doing something for me.

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  222. on March 30, 2010 at 8:59 am anoukange

    If you are not a woman then you can’t determine the whys and hows to a woman putting a guy in the friend zone. You can guess and estimate, yes. There are many reasons actually. I was trying to say that it is not always a no-go on the sexual potential of said friend. There’s hope for those that have been filed there.

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  223. on March 30, 2010 at 9:00 am sdaedalus

    PS Maurice, do you ever sleep? I’m worried about you.

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  224. on March 30, 2010 at 9:00 am xsplat

    Let me put it another way, M. We, as human beings, have various pre-sets inside of us. Buttons that can be pushed. Just because we’ve never triggered the pre-set radio selections, doesn’t mean that we are not capable of tuning in to these stations of the human condition.

    You may well find, some time in your future, that this bad boy you thought was not in you is tuned into and fully expressing himself.

    This is what happens. That is how it happens. You DO have those pre-set tunings inside you. You just never got the buttons pushed.

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  225. on March 30, 2010 at 9:02 am anoukange

    SD- one at a time luv, one guy at a time. 😉 And yes, everyone should be of free will, always.

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  226. on March 30, 2010 at 9:05 am xsplat

    anoukange

    If you are not a woman then you can’t determine the whys and hows to a woman putting a guy in the friend zone.

    If you are a man you can’t possibly know what makes a man horny.

    Do you agree with that? I hope not, because it’s a stupid notion. Everybody knows what makes men horny. You aren’t so mysterious yourself.

    And no, Anoukange, the friend zone is the friend zone. If you are talking about the indeterminate zone, that’s the indeterminate zone.

    Once friend zoned the man is permabanned.

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  227. on March 30, 2010 at 9:08 am xsplat

    But remember, everything that irritates us about others can lead us to an understanding of ourselves (Carl Jung)

    This applies to Barbabbs too.

    Not necessarily quite so. Salt in my wounds irritates me, but I already knew that.

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  228. on March 30, 2010 at 9:12 am maurice

    @xsplat-

    rather than becoming a dangerous debauchery, can instead enrich our full selves such that we are more rounded and capable, especially as lovers and seducers

    sure. def with you on this.

    @sdaed- Likewise. You are a delightful correspondent. Just don’t be surprised to get sex images back when you introduce them into a convo, OK? also, it’s late afternoon where I am. Left DC earlier this year for a point east of Europe. xsplat is in east asia so we will now be the ones filling up the board in the middle of the night. Used to be just him and Epoxy.

    @anouk – I’m a little skeptical of that. but do elaborate. what would impel a woman, in your view, to moving a guy from a platonic friend to a lover? doesn’t she experience attraction, or the distinct lack of it, right off the bat?

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  229. on March 30, 2010 at 9:13 am xsplat

    Anoukange

    just saying here is a time and a place to read into things and I’ve often noticed guys (and gals) over-analyzing the simplest things.

    Ya, well you were overanalyzing about that. And the worst part if your overanalysis was that it was wrong.

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  230. on March 30, 2010 at 9:17 am Karl Smith

    I don’t know if this advice works for guys looking for Roissy style bag-and-tags but those lokking for very high quality LTRs and can add a few things. When I say high quality I mean witty, confident, well educated, demure 9s and 10s.

    For those with a programming background the core rule can be summed up as follows

    Never: Her.desirability = true
    Always: You.doesDesire(her) returns true with conditions

    That is desirability is something that you willfully grant her. Something that she earns. She has no desibility in and of herself.

    Not only does this make for good charm (i don’t reallly like the term game) but it is an accurate reflection of reality. Beauty is something that you experience. NOT something that she possesses. She is just a collection of atoms.

    Those atoms become beautifuk when you concieve of them as such.

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  231. on March 30, 2010 at 9:21 am anoukange

    xsplat-

    Did I piss you off or are you always this wound? You are very pushy and set in your own beliefs and that is fine but your style rubs me wrong, not that you care. I can chat back and forth with you and not become rude or take personal swipes, now why can’t you? Every time I run into a pushy personality there are problems for me, I guess I’m offended on a fundamental level. I like freedom of my own thought and extend that right to others.

    Novaseeker and I chatted a little over at girl game about the theory that all men are naturally hybrids of both beta and alpha qualities. I try to illustrate that it is the woman that must help to cultivate each side out of her man to get a more balanced version of him. Every guy has a soft side and a hard side. Women have a check list a mile long of what a man must possess in him before they will consider him, I try to show women that she must help to shape a man, any man and discard their stupid check list. People are similar to art in that sense, one must bring the beauty and potential out. Love and greatness is nurtured out, coaxed out. Success is hard, that’s why so many are unsuccessful. But mostly they are unsuccessful because they have become spoiled and lazy, from what I can tell.

    You and I agree on quite a bit but you’re honing in on my term use a little too much. I never said that the friend zone didn’t have layers in it, you’re getting aggressive towards me when all you had to do was further clarify what I meant. Why take it to a mean place and insult me?

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  232. on March 30, 2010 at 9:23 am Steady Rifle

    Your eyes are dancing is really, really bad in all contexts. Any girl that doesn’t laugh her ass off at that is lame.

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  233. on March 30, 2010 at 9:24 am PA

    what would impel a woman, in your view, to moving a guy from a platonic friend to a lover?

    Alcohol

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  234. on March 30, 2010 at 9:28 am maurice

    @PA – funny, but glib. I actually want to see a female answer on this, even though I think I know what it’ll be. Should be interesting.

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  235. on March 30, 2010 at 9:29 am xsplat

    I like freedom of my own thought and extend that right to others.

    Do you now?

    Yes, you did rub me the wrong way, so I rubbed you back, deliberately.

    No one tells me how to think.

    Back off.

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  236. on March 30, 2010 at 9:34 am anoukange

    xsplat-

    Then you misunderstood me. Please accept this and don’t be mean anymore.

    Maurice-
    I will write a post about the many grays of the friend zone to see is I can shed any new light onto the topic and the thinking into the female mind regarding it. I will make it my next post within this week depending on how crazy my work week is if you care to have a look see.

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  237. on March 30, 2010 at 9:39 am xsplat

    Anoukange, sorry, it’s not up for negotiation. Telling a guy he is overanalysing, is insulting and pendantic, when all you have to go on is a feeling that the mood isn’t lite enough. I know very clearly what my thoughts are. Your opinion on their validity in such a broad stroke is unwelcome.

    As Mozart said of a critique of one of his operas “Too many notes?! There were precisely the correct amount of notes”.

    Overanalysed? I’m exquisitely aware of all the nuances of my own production, thank you very much.

    And as to laughing at you, sorry, again, not up for negotiation. That you think you have a keen insight in the female mind by virtue of being female is funny, because of how stupid it is. Take it or leave it. The friend zone comment is funny, because MEN see how stupid it is, while women don’t.

    What is funny is your self-blindness. So I poke fun at it, publicly. Sorry – you made yourself an open target, and I lack the restraint to do anything other than hit it.

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  238. on March 30, 2010 at 9:57 am Seran

    Hey, Greatbooksformen,

    Just a pointer…

    I am not sure if you actually have anything worthwhile to say, because I had to start skipping over your posts after the 14 hundreth time you wrote “lzozlzlzlzl!”

    Not only is it annoying on its face, but from my experience reading threads, it comes off as a nervous laugh, suggesting someone is not really sure of their argument or is not being truthful about who they are, maybe both.

    You’re like that Martin Short lawyer character, Nathan Frum, who was always appearing on 60 minutes, taking long, deep drags of a cigarette with an impossibly long ash, sweatily denying everything with his mouth, but admitting everything with his whole demeanor.

    You may not give a shit, which is fine, because I can and do easily just mouse wheel past your posts, but I thought I would put it out there.

    If it were me, I would delete every single post of yours with any sort of emoticon until you stopped doing it, just to make a point.

    Seran

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  239. on March 30, 2010 at 10:01 am Anonymous

    Anou

    Be nice to xplat, his imaginary girlfriend just died and he only has 5 willing submissive 10s to service him in her absence

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  240. on March 30, 2010 at 10:05 am LOL

    Anoukange,

    Be nice to him, his imaginary girlfriend just died and he is sad because he only has twelve hot, willing submissive women in the wings to service him now

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  241. on March 30, 2010 at 10:10 am maurice

    @anouk- OK, I’ll take a look. as xsplat expressed in is own way, though, the male readership will be very skeptical that LJBF is a relative or mutable notion.

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  242. on March 30, 2010 at 10:12 am anoukange

    xsplat-

    Well, what can I say then? You are putting a lot of words in my mouth with your above statement and every time I get blindsided by the aggressive behavior from someone I can’t help but think it’s their own trip. I was not “on” you or coming at you. It is just a thread on a blog. You seem way too over-amped for the mood. It was a funny thread at that and then turned sour. I’m a fan of discussion and that requires, at times, differing thoughts and personalities. I don’t claim to have keen insight anymore than most, I was trying to offer that there are more reasons than just one that a woman puts a guy in the friendship zone. Clearly I offended you somehow and you feel the need to be cruel. My comment re: over-analized was meant more generally and you have taken what I’ve typed way too personally. You have made it about you. I will not engage with you ever again, my apologies. I ask you again, please stop being mean and attacking towards me. Your anger is coming from a place I don’t understand.

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  243. on March 30, 2010 at 10:18 am anoukange

    xsplat-

    For the record, I am sorry if I offended you or what I was trying to express was misconstrued. I am disappointed that you had to personally insult me while trying to explain your point to me, I feel it was unnecessarily cruel.

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  244. on March 30, 2010 at 10:29 am Random jerk

    Anoukange, you are asking for kindness and civility from the internet at large. Good luck with that one, let me know how it goes.

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  245. on March 30, 2010 at 10:32 am The realist

    @Silver fox

    Get back to us when you actually find a genuine 10 on the internet. Camera angles can play tricks, they rely on it….

    Some Women spend far too much time on the internet these days, plenty of time for you to get your dick out and prove you are the real deal. Forget about what women say….

    When its just you, her and the dick she’ll love it.

    I already did my internet “research” a long time ago kiddo, it’s pretty much as simple as getting pussy in the real world didn’t you know? you put your dick in it.

    Keep clicking….you have much to learn on this internet journey of yours.

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  246. on March 30, 2010 at 10:44 am Golum

    Anoukange, you are asking from kindness and civility from the internet…Even though no one in this sphere respects you for reasons that should be obvious. Maybe you are “a really nice girl!” and have “only” had 5 or 6 sexual partners, but there’s something painfully laughable about you of all people giving anyone relationship advice except in a what-not-to-do fashion, given the massive oopsie daisy that was revealed about you some months earlier.

    So even if people are “civil” to you (don’t count on it), at least beware that they don’t think very much of you. At all.

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  247. on March 30, 2010 at 10:58 am anoukange

    Golum-

    I would have been honest regarding anything in my past. How does my past differ from most? If one casual fling that went bad in the fifteen years I have been involved with men makes me void then the majority of you should not comment as well. You are being a judgmental bastard. Life is for living, not sitting up on a hill looking down at others who are brave enough to live it. I am both nice and capable of being hard, it depends on what is required. You and others lack respect for me for making a mistake? You are a pussy for writing this on the internet. My mistake was made public, that is the only difference between me and the rest of you.

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  248. on March 30, 2010 at 11:02 am anoukange

    Golum-

    I spent from 19-30 in two relationships, living with both men. I remain friends with them both. How about you?

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  249. on March 30, 2010 at 11:05 am The realist

    LOL @ Anoukange

    Suck a dick babe. Us guys don’t have a “just friends” zone. But we do have a “friends with benefits” zone, and if you don’t fit in there we just don’t talk to you.

    Get in that zone hoe, it’s the best you can hope for.

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  250. on March 30, 2010 at 11:07 am The realist

    @Anoukange

    All that proves is that you can’t maintain a serious relationship. Why aren’t you married to either of those guys?!

    Doesn’t look good. You’re over 30?!?!

    Game over

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  251. on March 30, 2010 at 11:10 am xsplat

    Anoukange, don’t take it personally. If you want to hang around talking to guys, this is how we talk.

    I guess this is why girls rarely hang around talking with a bunch of blokes. Our sense of humor is fucking vicious.

    And you aren’t going to have any ability to change that.

    Or is that overanalyzing? Lolzz. 😉

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  252. on March 30, 2010 at 11:15 am The realist

    @Roissy

    How about getting your cock out and slapping her with it as the ultimate display of higher value?
    All statements and game should be building up to this one point.

    It’s the male version of a DHV, IOI, and shit test bundled into one And could probably serve a few other functions too.

    should be accompanied by a cheeky but not so intelligent statement like “Looks like im happy to see you” as it bounces and hardens.

    If she doesn’t like it…..SHIT TEST FAILED. Next.
    anything else is just overqualifying yourself with good “game”, do not underestimate the true debauchery of women.

    I think Barbabbs might be familiar with this move….if not i reccomend it to him in particular.

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  253. on March 30, 2010 at 11:18 am maurice

    OK, I’ll step in to defend anouk here. No reason to gang up on her like a pack of dogs. Her remarks above were not remotely out of the norm on this site, and some were very funny (urinal substitution for original post, for example.) – even if we disagree we ought to be able to do so civilly. Ad feminam attacks only make the attackers look bad, in case it wasn’t already clear. I suspect I’ll be accused of “white knighting” by the board, but it’s actually just basic human courtesy. Cruelty isn’t alpha or attractive.

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  254. on March 30, 2010 at 11:20 am PA

    “lozlzlzl” is a real innovation. The dude may be crazy, but he’s invented someting new and cool.

    I rarely text, and even more rarely do abbreviations like “lol”(real men use proper English) but when I do, I write “lololzlzlz.”

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  255. on March 30, 2010 at 11:24 am The realist

    Roissy has destroyed the board, my only posts that even make it through moderation are short sharp insults and ad hominem. Anything constituting an actual structured paragraph seems to get lost in the abyss of moderating hell so i don’t even bother even more.

    Fuck you anoukange. dank bitch.

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  256. on March 30, 2010 at 11:30 am PA

    Maurice – white knighting has its place. I’m not commenting on this situation, but at some point in the past I spoke in Clio’s defense, to a flurry of dorks accusing me of white knighting.

    The right time and place to white knight is when the knighted female has good attitude, is unfairly attacked, and it helps when the knighter has no romantic interest in her.

    By the way (hey Tupac!), I had a dream about Clio recently. She was of correct age, surprisingly short in height, petite, and wearing a tight red sweater. Sizzling, dude. Thought you’d like to know.

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  257. on March 30, 2010 at 11:51 am xsplat

    Ya, Maurice, there is always a “hey, lighten up, can’t we all just get along” commandant in every crowd.

    People get all buthurt. People love a good buthurt.

    I like the 4chan antidote. Anyone have the 4chan antidote to buthurtedness handy?

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  258. on March 30, 2010 at 11:54 am Golum

    Anoukage – “Your mistake”. Good god, that’s an understatement if ever there was one. In any case, I’ve never fucked up so bad, thanks for asking.

    That you think ending two relationships in the span of a decade is somehow an accomplishment worth boasting of, only highlights what quality of women you are.

    In any case, I don’t mean for the hounds to descend upon you here, and don’t want to detract from the post or topic at hand. I just thought I’d chime in with the obvious, so that it may allow you to be a tiny bit self aware of what others may think of you around these traps, and that there are good reasons why any ‘advice’ you give out will likely not be taken seriously. Peace.

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  259. on March 30, 2010 at 11:55 am greatbooksformen

    omg girls over 30 lolzlzlz!!

    past their expiration date!! lozlzl!!

    i had my cock in them when they were 18/19 lozozlzlz

    then they went and got all liberated and whored it around for 10 years

    and now they wnat to settle down lozlzlzlzlzlz z zlzlzozllz zoz zlzozlzlz

    and they want me to buy them things lozlzlzllzzlzlzl

    and share my home lozlzlzlzl

    but the thing is, the federal reserve offically owns them.

    if you don’t beli9eve me, try to date one.

    she will take your cash, via child support and alimony payments and give it straight to ben bernanke and all his neocon firends.

    is it not funny
    that as america goes bankrupt
    as her families die
    dc is filed with women?
    single, slutty, workaholic women?
    soulless women, incapable of caring for anything
    but for roissy’s cock in their anuses?
    o my friends
    this is how it ends

    riddle me this batman

    why do women like big government?

    because they love douchebags who promise them everything and then fuck them in teh ass!! lzozlzlzl!!

    get it?

    big government = douchebags who promise them everything and then fuck them in teh ass!!

    that’s why candace allen uses the pages of teh neocon’s weekly standard to exalt not russell kirk nor edmund burke nor virgil nor homer, but tucker max who videotapes anal sex with girls without their consent..

    lozlzlzlz!!

    and neocon jonah goldberg never complains!!! lzozlzllzl

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  260. on March 30, 2010 at 11:56 am xsplat

    http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Offended

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  261. on March 30, 2010 at 11:59 am maurice

    @xsplat – yeah, that would be me. the topic of this blog tends to move commentary in the Lord of the Flies direction a little too often. Some people prefer civilization.

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  262. on March 30, 2010 at 12:12 pm xsplat

    Ya, Maurice, but the irony is, in order to have civilization, you need to enforce it. And what precisely does enforcement of let’s all get along look like?

    Commienism.

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  263. on March 30, 2010 at 12:13 pm maurice

    Oh, groan. Not at all. More like traffic court.

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  264. on March 30, 2010 at 12:24 pm xsplat

    Commienism, I tell you.

    The enforcement of goodwill leads inevitably to heavy handed state controlled power over individuality.

    It’s the only possible conclusion. Because people love to fight, and it’s impossible to get them to just all get along and help each other unless you strip away their rights to be individual.

    Commienism.

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  265. on March 30, 2010 at 12:48 pm Pupu

    @barbbabbs

    Hehehe, a gazelle stamping her feet in the Hobbsian jungle keeps the lord of flies away.

    BTW, pupu lovez all the fiat lolzozlzllzlzozozlz!

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  266. on March 30, 2010 at 2:38 pm Tupac Chopra

    By the way (hey Tupac!), I had a dream about Clio recently.

    Just a dream? That’s how it starts out. Then you find yourself seeing strange, celestial phenomena out of the corner of your eyes during the day. This soon leads to hearing the music of the spheres (Van Morrsion) on the edge of your awareness. As the condition reaches its final stages, you find yourself strangely compelled to give yourself over to God.

    Fear not, my friend. Tupac is here to help, as I have travelled through this dark night previously, It’s really no different than a spontaneous kundalini awakening. Gopi Krishna got throught it and so can you. I’ll just fax you over some Qui Gong excercises that will undo the blockages. If that doesn’t work, I’ve got some leftover ointment that should fix you right up.

    She was of correct age, surprisingly short in height, petite, and wearing a tight red sweater.

    Always with the sweaters, right?! WTH?

    “Those soft and fuzzy sweaters, too magical to touch”

    BTW, did you manage to honor your marriage vows in this dream?

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  267. on March 30, 2010 at 5:30 pm anoukange

    Maurice-

    Thanks. 🙂 I was unfairly attacked.

    Golum–

    What kind of strict code do you live by? Having two long terms in my twenties when I could have easily been doing other things (like being promiscuous and gaining high numbers) is an accomplishment. You must respect that not all people think like you. I would never disrespect you by judging your choices. I give people a lot of room, it’s just the way it works for me. I require freedom of choice and thought and I give it to others in return. You seem more affected by my mistake than I am. It was a very small time period in comparison to the many years I’ve had in successful exchanges. People who have lived, loved and had sex are the ones who should give advice, not those who have not. I know how to maintain a happy, healthy long term realtionship because I have over a decade in practice. You seem very rigid and cold– and rigid and I have never gotten along. Dogmatic beliefs and strict codes of conduct allow for little pleasure in life. I do not impose my own personal philosophies on anyone, least of all someone I have never met. I don’t seek marriage, if I had I would be married. Maybe you have never fucked up, but I doubt you have seen and done the things I have that have been amazing. Risk can bring greatness in life. As far as being self aware…I find it amusing and a bit ridiculous that you criticize me in this sphere of all places. How the hell does my mistake even compare to what is written and confessed in these parts?

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  268. on March 30, 2010 at 5:35 pm anoukange

    xsplat–

    Really, you just flew off the handle and you seem hyper- aggressive and always turned on at a higher volume than most here, and that’s saying a lot. You over-reacted, period. I doubt very seriously you have the sex you claim you do because anyone getting laid on the steady is no where near as spastic as you. My comment was said in passing and meant to be casual. You latched onto it and made it all about you.

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  269. on March 30, 2010 at 5:40 pm anoukange

    The realist–

    um, yeah. Not even sure what to say to you. Do you not work out to get some of that testosterone out of your system? I cannot get over the tempers that fly around here…and at someone you don’t even know. I mean at least when I get pissed it’s at someone I met in real life that personally offended me. Do you not get enough validation in the real world that you have to be a nasty bastard on the internet?

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  270. on March 30, 2010 at 5:42 pm anoukange

    For those of you who claim you follow or are rooted in Buddhism and then do everything but remain calm, respectful and open-minded are liars and have missed 95% of what that belief system teaches.

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  271. on March 30, 2010 at 6:21 pm chic noir

    sdaeldulus We are past first grade now, it is possible to have a civilised conversation with a member of the opposite sex without necessarily having to claim them as one’s own.

    HA my good woman 🙂
    Once a man has his eye on you, he has claimed you as his own. The other men here know not to flirt with you anymore because maurice has put his e-stamp on you.

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  272. on March 30, 2010 at 6:58 pm the realist

    @Anoukange

    No it just pisses me off how everyones writing appears the same size on a computer screen. how i can end up resenting moments of my life reading the opinions of people who are invisible to me on a real word, day by day basis. Don’t you just hate that about computers?!

    I know not to get game advice from women, especially not the worst case scenario.

    I’d probably dick slap you, but i’d feel violated if a woman your age ever got to see the glory of my penis.

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  273. on March 30, 2010 at 7:27 pm Golum

    Anouk,

    I don’t want to fight. I don’t know you, I don’t hate you, I don’t care about you. I simply pointed out what should have been obvious – your opinions on relationships will be disregarded given that whole super embarrasing Roosh incident and the batshit crazy email you penned. That you bring up two failed relationships to counter that ‘mistake’, well…that speaks for itself.

    And you can stop all the hokey dokey “life is for living”, “take a risk!” patronizing bullshit – it’s called foresight. A little foresight will go a long way in allowing you to live life, without getting used by players and then being a whiny bitch about it. There are ‘risks’ – and then there’s the undignified and reckless behavior that only a slut would condone. It is very different.

    Again, if you set the bar so low and think not raking up ‘high numbers’ is in itself some kind of accomplishment, well there isn’t really much left to say. I’ve never fathered an illigimate child – someone give me a fucking cookie.

    Moreover, if you really think you present as anything but the picture of a promiscuous woman, your standards are abysmally low – but you can’t see this because you’ve drowned yourself in new age-y self-congratulatory bullshit. Mantras about ‘trusting too much’ and being a hopeless romantic and ‘living life with risks’.

    Look, you’re not the worst person in the world, but to see you of all people being condescending all over this place is embarrassing. That is all.

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  274. on March 30, 2010 at 8:06 pm anoukange

    Golum–

    What you’re not getting is that I live by the philosophy of free will and free life. All of the things I list that you make fun of are what a lot of women relate to as well. You know…romance, love, etc. I was attempting to explain that I wouldn’t change how I live even with the mistakes that have been made due to how I live. So I wrote hate mail to a guy that tried to come between me and a friend? So what? I reacted like a girl because I’m a girl. I need no pity for my actions and the consequences I paid. Promiscuous? That depends on each persons idea of what is. I could have easily slept around but didn’t. I am disciplined by my own view on the topic. I do not mind if the conservatives (clearly yourself) find me promiscuous. You don’t seem to get that I’m not concerned with my “image”. If I were I would be doing very different things in the sphere than I do. If you think me a slut, then so be it. If you think six partners for a 32 year old is a lot than you will be very shocked to find out that most woman have much higher numbers. There are women in their early twenties that put me to shame. Where do you live? Kansas?

    Failed relationships? Depends on your view of love. You’re confusing your own beliefs with what you assume I believe. I left those relationships, they were not failures. I mentioned them because I have 15 years of expereince. I do not consider most marriages and long terms in today’s society successes. Do you? I left mine in tact, with respect for each of those guys and we were kind to each other about it. That is success. It was hard to do. I’m over the embarrassment and everyone else has moved on, so why not you? Why do hundreds read my blog if I have nothing of quality to say? Why did 73 females write me and tell me of their own stories of similar to mine and thank me for keeping my blog? I’m not sure what you’re problem is but you can’t represent those people so you must represent hard religious people who judge me.

    What you speak of is old news, people knew me before that shit storm and they still read my blog after.

    Listen, you do not have to listen to anything I have to say, just skip over what I write. I skip over those that I cannot relate to, it’s the easy and polite thing to do. One incident that went wrong and the rest that went right, that is why I comment. Condescending? Not really, there is much I know about when it comes to what it takes to make a relationship happy and healthy so I can share what I know in the effort to exchange, just like everyone else here.

    Like you said, you don’t know me. You should have stopped there. Open your mind dude. I wouldn’t think the worst of you if it had been you. Not that you will, but read my entire blog, read the posts on love. The reality of love and living with a person you love is what people are fucking up. Just because a realtionship ends does not make it a failure.

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  275. on March 30, 2010 at 8:13 pm anoukange

    The realist–

    There’s no way in hell you have an impressive or glorious dick, hence your spastic attacks on total strangers. Clearly an inferiority complex. Guys just don’t get it, the more spastic you are, the less alpha you are. Get yourself under control. I’ve been around true alpha males and they rarely lost their cool. You are young and you show it. Immaturity is never becoming.

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  276. on March 30, 2010 at 9:37 pm Black Flag

    “[A]ll men are sadists and all women are masochists.”

    Nonsense. That doesn’t even stand up as a metaphor for human behavior. It’s certainly not literally true. A genuine sadist is the rarest of men. Behold his dark heart:

    My lan­guage is pain.
    My vocab­u­lary is agony.
    The voice I speak with is beau­ti­ful
    because it is yours.

    I speak in whim­pers,
    I speak in gasps,
    I speak in screams,
    and when your voice fails from hoarse­ness,
    I speak in silent sobs.

    I love this way. This is how I love.

    I know men, Mopenhauer. I know men who are cruel and evil in truth, as I make my living getting them out of jail. This man is neither of those things. I’d know him if I met him and I haven’t.

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  277. on March 31, 2010 at 2:29 am xsplat

    anoukange

    The realist–

    There’s no way in hell you have an impressive or glorious dick, hence your spastic attacks on total strangers. Clearly an inferiority complex. Guys just don’t get it, the more spastic you are, the less alpha you are. Get yourself under control. I’ve been around true alpha males and they rarely lost their cool. You are young and you show it. Immaturity is never becoming.

    Blah ha ha ha ha!

    Oh my god, that’s funny.

    How do you expect to put down a man who isn’t even interested in you sexually?

    Women do this ploy all the time. They try to snub a guy and bring down his social status.

    Blah ha ha ha ha!

    You commented on an internet guys dick size?

    I’m honestly laughing out loud right now.

    Trying to explain to men what Alpha is. Ha ha ha!

    Oh, that’s funny.

    I’m done now.

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  278. on March 31, 2010 at 3:31 am anne nonimoose

    Back on topic…A few of those lines seem extremely ‘beta’ to me. Mind you coming from a beta, I couldn’t muster up a few of those.

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  279. on March 31, 2010 at 3:59 am maurice

    @anouk- sure, no worries. for the record, i was a little shocked by the batshit crazy e-mail as well, but you’ve handled all the web abuse and negativity since then fairly well. still think you’re wrong about the friend zone – waiting to see what you’ll say, though.

    @chic, sdaed- No, no e-stamp. appreciate you being an e-yenta, chic – we know you love to do it – but sdaedalus is of course free to e-chat with anyone she wants. don’t think it makes any sense to expect any sort of e-monogamy after some friendly banter in one thread. besides, I alienated her by being crude. (although she did set me up for it.) I enjoy her thinking and her blog – that’s enough, I suppose. also, she may be a lady, but i’m no tramp. since i’m from the same side of the tracks, i don’t fascinate.

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  280. on March 31, 2010 at 4:54 am The realist

    @Anoukange

    You are right i am young. Thanks.

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  281. on March 31, 2010 at 5:06 am The realist

    @Xsplat

    one day i might be “mature” enough to find a woman her age attractive.

    or not.

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  282. on March 31, 2010 at 6:03 am Nicole

    Realist, everyone gets old if they survive long enough.

    You may want to spend your youthful energy fighting people who are actually your enemies, instead of snapping at every woman who dares to not be attractive to you. Stop taking it personally that time exists and that the universe doesn’t order itself to your childish desires.

    Xsplat, you were wondering how a woman can put down a man who isn’t attracted to her. See above.

    You and he are both guilty of eating the feminist, cougar culture that places older women at the social rank of ugly girls. Wake up and get over it.

    The lack of attraction is mutual. Some of us here would just like there to be some men who don’t have their heads up Hollywood’s ass, available for our daughters.

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  283. on March 31, 2010 at 6:55 am oh dear

    “You’re very brave to come over to talk with me.”
    — Why? Do you have a contagious disease or something?

    “Your flirting is charming.”
    — Thank you. So is yours.

    “As we’re sitting here talking I can tell you seem really happy.”
    — Yeah, I just won the lottery.

    “Hope I didn’t make you wait too long.”
    — Were you gone?

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  284. on March 31, 2010 at 8:35 am sdaedalus

    @sdaedalus is of course free to e-chat with anyone she wants. don’t think it makes any sense to expect any sort of e-monogamy after some friendly banter in one thread.

    Thank you.

    besides, I alienated her by being crude. (although she did set me up for it.)

    No, I was annoyed with myself, for accidentally setting us both up.

    I enjoy her thinking and her blog – that’s enough

    Thank you once again.

    I suppose. also, she may be a lady, but i’m no tramp. since i’m from the same side of the tracks, i don’t fascinate.

    Just because SDaedalus and her gravatar share some characteristics does not necessarily mean that they are identical. SDaedalus, for instance, does not bark, beg or live in a kennel.

    You may possibly be reading too much into SDaedalus’s choice of conversation & pictures, which is often a spur of the moment decision taken without too much thought, and should not be over-analysed.

    SDaedalus’s gravatar was picked because she was cute, friendly, playful, intelligent, loyal and ladylike, with long floppy spaniel ears, not as a message as to what type of men (if any) SDaedalus was hoping to attract or reject.

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  285. on March 31, 2010 at 9:00 am maurice

    @sdaed- well of course you’re not a dog. but you’re a lady, right? you probably show up to a board like this, as most do, wanting to read the unvarnished, testosterone-soaked alpha male view of the world. the point of view of a tramp/cad. maybe not as a literal guide to life, love or relationships, but as a corrective to a lot of unbalanced and false assumptions out there. (either that, or for the great writing and bracingly hate-filled satire and invective.) and that’s not exactly what i provide. i’m the fairly consistent voice of reason, balance, fairness etc. on the comment board. a voice you can find anywhere else on the internet. that’s what i meant by same side of the tracks: i’m not really characteristic for a place like this, even though i agree with most of the worldview. so e-flirt away with the rest of the board! and i will be e-chatting with you as well.

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  286. on March 31, 2010 at 11:23 am Pupu

    Hey, barbbabbs,

    Where’s all the fiat funded lzozlzlzlzl? Why suddenly so much discipline when nobody has accused you of a lack of fiscal responsibility? Better overheated than having a fun recession, eh?

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  287. on March 31, 2010 at 11:35 am xplat

    Nicole, I wasn’t clear about what I was laughing at. I had no idea of the age of Anoukange – I’m laughing at her trying to snub an internet guy about how attractive he might be and his dick size. Doesn’t that make you laugh?

    You’ve probably never come across this, but a girl who considers herself of higher value than a man will try to get power over him and up her value by publicly snubbing him. Approach some girls and say high, and they’ll look you up and down as if you just threw a bucket of shit on them. But the social contract is that they aren’t supposed to be so affrontive unless they are obviously hotter than you. That’s how that game works. And you have to have already shown a sexual interest.

    Anoukange was trying to snub with neither of those two precursers in place. Seemed hilarious to me.

    Small dick?!

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  288. on March 31, 2010 at 11:49 am The realist

    Thats fighting talk nicole.

    I think your idea of a guy “snapping and “fighting”” is rather misguided, i don’t think you’ve seen me or any other real men “snap”, because it doesn’t involve a keyboard, the internet or a big shit eating grin on my face.

    we’ve had words before Nicole, you know how i do. Lardass.

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  289. on March 31, 2010 at 12:24 pm anoukange

    xsplat-

    I was responding to this comment made by the realist at me:

    “I’d probably dick slap you, but i’d feel violated if a woman your age ever got to see the glory of my penis.”

    Dude, day after day you lie on this site’s threads claiming ridiculous things always, and we all silently roll our eyes and think “yeah right”. But we are all polite enough to not take you down for it or call you out on it. You provide no proof what so ever to back up your constant nailing f “tens” and then insist it would be the fault of the anyone questioning you if they did not believe. You, my friend, reek of utter bullshit. You give yourself away with how hard you try to prove yourself, over and over. You try SO HARD.

    I did not snub the realist, I observed that he too must have a complex to write at me what he did.

    Get a life dude, get over it, move on. I do not follow the many, many rules and behaviors of the “game” world you are so clearly obsessed by. I am most certainly not attracted to you or the realist. WORDS seduce women, this has been documented throughout history….and I must say your “blah…ha…blah…ha..” did not give me any tingles.

    also, please have a look see at the posts on my blog entitled “Libra Rising” and “Lady in the Streets” to see just how “unattractive” my old ass is. I was a ballet dancer for 14 years and catalog model in my prime. My 32 year old ass looks damn better than many twenty-somethings you idiot. I do not look my age. Every inch of my body is still tight. Not that 32 is old you weirdos. What a twisted, warped mentality to go through life with. 40 is old and I’m scared shitless of turning forty, but until then, I’m still hot.

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  290. on March 31, 2010 at 5:23 pm another one bites the dust « JAMILA

    […] 3. He “forgot” my name. […]

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  291. on March 31, 2010 at 5:49 pm Silver Fox

    Update on Match.com/internet dating post

    I posted earlier, and nearly never read replies.

    Anyway, PUAs take note…something is afoot in internet dating.

    I posted the screening stats:

    2018 women via SWF NYC filter
    1008
    100
    10 responding 8.5+

    3 Dates: two, 8.5s, one 10
    2 Dates pending

    Some people knocked it.

    Well you aint going to get three 8.5+ babes with generic PUA negs. The recession or asexual bailout-ees is freeing up some very high quality pussy.

    Will keep you posted:

    Dates tonight, Thur. and Sat; two more next week all under 26; one 31 (very hot).

    all for $1/day.

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  292. on March 31, 2010 at 9:15 pm Anonymous

    @maurice:

    Regarding having friends who are men: while anouk is gathering her thoughts for her post, I can share with you my experience, if you would like. I just don’t want to be pummeled afterwards. I don’t mind if you disagree with me, I would just like to keep everything civilized if at all possible.

    The reason I have male friends are two-fold. One, I really do have platonic friends who are men. These are usually people who have been in my life since high school, college, etc. However, I also meet people/men, even now occasionally, and find that we have some interests in common. This usually is tastes in music, and makes for fun and interesting conversation. In these cases, while we can acknowledge the attractive features the other person may have, there is no real attraction. This is mutual for both parties.

    The second reason I have male friends is because I’ve never instantaneously fallen for someone. It’s a process that evolves while getting to know the person. Even if I’m attracted to a man physically, the emotional connection that’s needed doesn’t develop until after spending time with him on the relaxed friend level. I don’t know if “emotional attraction” is a real term, but it’s some factor that has to rise to the level of the physical attraction, or there really is no real attraction/desire to progress further. Without finding him appealing in other ways, the physical attraction can quickly diminish for me.

    Most men are not too keen on waiting around very much, and I completely understand this. I’m just offering my personal feelings and experience in reference to your question.

    I’m not one of those people who knows the minute I meet a man if I would consider dating him.

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  293. on April 1, 2010 at 6:19 am Vince

    “I have a confession to make. I forgot your name.” [You should say this to every girl at some point during the initial meet, regardless whether you remember her name. I have yet to experience a bad reaction from a girl when I said this.]

    I thought this was brilliant when I first read it. Then commenters messed with my head, warning it could backfire. But I’m back to thinking it’s brilliant.

    What’s going on aside from signaling higher status? There’s gotta be a longer than normal pause between the first sentence and the second one, right?

    I have a confession to make.
    (beat)
    I forgot your name.

    Her mind is working between the two sentences because “confession” is an unusually weighty word. Also, if we really want to unpack it, the line conveys sensitivity AND masculinity by exhibiting consideration and owning up to a short-coming (it’s an opposite of the neg — a self-consciously perceived failure that is actually an indicator of high-status).

    Clooney pulls this shit when talking about his mansion in Italy. He’s confessed he can’t sleep in the master bedroom because it’s TOO large, TOO opulent. I guess I need to come with some lines about recklessly spending money on crap. Now that I think about it, Roissy had a bit about scandalously over-priced crap at Whole Foods.

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  294. on April 1, 2010 at 9:12 am The realist

    @Anoukange

    Please everybody take a look. Seriously guys. Whether or not you would date that is pretty much the test of alpha or beta.

    So i am the one trying so hard and yet you are the one directing us to your blog to gaze upon your skanky self hmmmmmmmmm. i try SO HARD?

    No this is pretty damn easy. I’m going to let everything you said about me slide, because simply i am an internet persona and i started it. But you cannot insult me objectively. So lets get to work on you missy:

    Note: where are the Photos of your face?

    Strategic knee bend during all poses, is someone insecure perhaps? Maybe its those pasty knobbly knees?

    Why are you heeled up in every photo? every guy knows the test of the legs is how they look minus the heels. I see better legs on a fat bird on a saturday night if im at looking at the right time at the right angle, consistantly.

    Why are you taking the photos of yourself into a mirror? Are you a 17 year old slut? no, if only, add 15 years. You don’t have anyone who wants to take them? no friends? is posing on your blog how you make friends? Or maybe only you can find the perfect angle to display yourself at, you wouldn’t want a more accurate image of yourself making its way online right? More appropriately however, having a photographer would keep your wrinkly hands and fingers out of frame, just a tip.

    Nice cleft chin, they can be attractive…..ON MEN.

    You do look your age. Skinny is not the new young. And men will tell you it never has been. The picture with the grey trousers and white wife-beater is the deadest give away as to how past it you are. At least lose that from you’re wardrobe(and your blog)

    P.S More than one of those outfits is in fact just a shower curtain.

    on the upside the tight dress side profile and behind shot are the best of the bunch. Even i’m not sure whether thats a compliment or an insult. just the truth. I guess you proved me wrong, a randy young guy like myself MIGHT JUST TAP THAT FROM BEHIND, congrats

    “also, please have a look see at the posts on my blog entitled “Libra Rising” and “Lady in the Streets” to see just how “unattractive” my old ass is. I was a ballet dancer for 14 years and catalog model in my prime. My 32 year old ass looks damn better than many twenty-somethings you idiot. I do not look my age. Every inch of my body is still tight. Not that 32 is old you weirdos. What a twisted, warped mentality to go through life with. 40 is old and I’m scared shitless of turning forty, but until then, I’m still hot.”

    hmmmm and im the one trying SO HARD? Now This is why i lay the smackdown on these hoes. I could be commenting about how eager i am to track a womans fertility and prevent cuckolding……or just plain rinsing this old hag. Much more fun and relevant to my wellbeing. Laughter is good for the heart.

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  295. on April 1, 2010 at 4:05 pm Dilbert Hole

    You’re both trying too hard.

    “Realist”, nobody gives a flying fuck about your blowhard antics – except, apparently, anoukange.

    Anoukange, attention whoring is not the one true path to contentment. Your T&A are far more in evidence than your grace and self-esteem. The epithet “overdone” comes to mind.

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  296. on April 1, 2010 at 4:07 pm Dilbert Hole

    “Overplucked” also works, both literally and metaphorically.

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  297. on April 1, 2010 at 7:12 pm anoukange

    the realist–

    My last comment was not directed at you. Read it again and thank you for all of your compliments. 🙂 I do not wish to gain a man from my blog or from the internet, I find the whole concept to be very strange. You boys are always so welcoming. All of this for a simple comment within the topic of discussion? This did start off as a funny post and thread and it had to turn to shit, didn’t it? It’s what some of you are best at, turning things to shit. To each his own hon, I would never rip someone unless they come at me first. You boys LIVE for this, clearly.

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  298. on April 1, 2010 at 7:17 pm anoukange

    All I did was say that the friendship zone wasn’t the dead zone as much as many here think. It was actually meant to encourage guys who get put in the friendship zone…that is all I said and now this battle….

    you know what’s so funny you guys? If we all met out and about we most likely would all have a good time and have some laughs but on here it has to get nasty.

    If I were trying hard I would have linked the posts. I was relying on you all being lazy and not going over.

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  299. on April 3, 2010 at 11:03 pm Weekend Link Fest – Classically Sultry Edition « Seasons of Tumult and Discord

    […] Citizen Renegade: Statements that Imply Your Higher Value […]

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  300. on April 14, 2010 at 6:37 pm askjoe

    Really though? Is there some sort of congruence that must be set to say things like this? Saying “You’re very brave to come over to talk with me.” would seem to me to cause a hostile reaction.

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  301. on April 14, 2010 at 7:59 pm Doug1

    anoukange

    If you are not a woman then you can’t determine the whys and hows to a woman putting a guy in the friend zone. You can guess and estimate, yes. There are many reasons actually. I was trying to say that it is not always a no-go on the sexual potential of said friend. There’s hope for those that have been filed there.

    nah, women aren’t either than inscrutable or complicated to men once we’ve swallowed the red pill.

    you personally seem to like to part men in the friend zone you’re considering for a relationship, so that you can do the sort of evaluating them that a lot of dates would, without the current pressure to put out by third date or much longer anyway that the current slut and semi slut relationship hunting big city American environment presents. But also I detect you like to lure men to provide platonic men companionship for you w/a hint of future relationship sex posibility.

    What game savvy guys say of course is that those odds such and get worse the longer the guy stays there.

    What I have said and will repeat is that a just friends relationship can turn to a sexual one if there was sexual tension at the beginning (she felt sexual attraction and he could tell) and he maintains it by flirting, esp. if there are reasons to sometimes be together for a bit but also reasons not to get sexual then. (either one is in a relationship, awkward or dangerous for the guy because of work direct hierarchical relationship at the time, etc. )

    If a guy doesn’t flirt w/her and she back some and he doesn’t feel her attraction, or if he just hangs around her too much instead of once in awhile, that’s gonna tend to betaize him in her subconscious. He’s not swept her off his feet exactly, has he?

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  302. on April 15, 2010 at 10:19 am anoukange

    Doug,

    Insightful, especially from someone who hasn’t met me. I put guys in the friendship zone for a number of reasons. Geminis are a little non-committal in their definitions of things (until it becomes committed) by our nature, so it really does serve as a holding tank for me. I have guys that started off as just friends become more, I’ve had guys that started off as something more get filed there after the something more doesn’t mesh well, I’ve had guys go in and come back out…it just depends. There are connections that could never be friendships because the sexual attraction is too great, I admit. But I am at ease with the friendship thing overall. It becomes about company and interesting minds, etc. Exchange like what can happen here on threads sometimes and chats with men are appealing to me. I chat with all ages of men. I do tune out when it gets too rough for female ears or eyes for my own protection.

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  303. on July 12, 2010 at 8:48 pm Marcellus

    “I have a confession to make. I forgot your name.” [You should say this to every girl at some point during the initial meet, regardless whether you remember her name. I have yet to experience a bad reaction from a girl when I said this.]

    —Wow! This happened to me this very day, and I didn’t know what to say to the girl. Next time I meet her, I won’t have to pretend I remember her name…

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