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Heady Pettiness

April 21, 2010 by CH

I was with a girl shopping for assorted consumerist baubles. Technically, she was shopping and I was providing color commentary. A man must learn to amuse himself to pull through these dreaded moments. In the middle of a well-delivered quip, I noticed from the most distant corner of my eye a familiar jeans-covered ass. I studied the ass for a bit and the flow of hair down the back and realized it was one of my exes. She turned around and confirmed for me it was her.

She didn’t see me. I watched her for a bit. The three years were not kind to her. Her body was still great but her face looked drawn, eyes sad, and was that an incipient turkey gullet? When I dated her she was a solid 8, and sexy as hell. Now? A 7. Barely. In just three years she dropped a full point. I wondered if she had gone through an emotionally draining divorce in the time since I’d known her. She was at the store alone on a day in which most women are shopping with their partners.

My time spent with her had been good. I held no ill will toward her. We departed not as exes, but as former lovers, blessedly free of bitterness or rancor. And yet, when I saw my ex there in the store, and mentally noted that the girl I was with was better looking than her, a sadistic urge to flaunt my latest lover and parade her past my ex like a trophy float overcame me. I maneuvered myself and my female company into visual range of my ex. I refrained from looking over. I wanted the bump in to feel natural. (Had my lover been less attractive than my ex, I would’ve hid behind the clothes racks and rushed us out of the store.)

As I maneuvered closer to my ex through the aisles of clothes and kitchenware, I placed my hands lovingly on various erogenous zones of my companion’s body. All while pretending not to notice my ex. I slid my hand down my lover’s back, played with her hair, and made sure to tell a joke so that she giggled girlishly within earshot of my ex. Unfortunately, my ex didn’t notice. Either she was captivated by the 40% sale on hand towels, or she was expertly avoiding acknowledging my presence. I doubted the latter, because usually even the best actresses cannot hold it together with zen-like calm and serenity when bumping into an ex who left such an indelible impression on them. They give away their true feelings with a nearly imperceptible quiver in the shoulders, or a nervous dart of the eyes.

Had she forgotten me? Not possible. We dated too many months, and I… did things… with her that assured a memorial to me would forever be etched in her brain, like a Vietnam Lovers Memorial of sex acts. Or maybe she didn’t recognize me? I *was* wearing a hat, crisply turned down along the front brim.

Nevertheless, no matter how much I maneuvered, I couldn’t needle my ex with my profound pettiness. She remained steadfastly unaware of my presence, flitting about the store like a hummingbird. What a wasted opportunity for a deliciously ego-massaging bump in.

I told my girl about my ex being alone in the store, and how I was trying to get the ex to see us. I also told her she was hotter than my ex. Instead of chastising me for my immaturity, her eyes lit up with conspiratorial glee and she offered a strategy.

“Ooh, I’m curious. Which one is she? Let’s walk by her and I’ll stick my ass out for you to smack. Yay!”

God bless women. Just when you are about to resign yourself to the thought that they are made of nothing but sugar and spice and everything nice, you are reminded of the arsenic laced within.

We left the store mission unaccomplished. I pondered for a second why I relished the thought of rubbing my happiness in the face of a sad, possibly single ex for whom I had nothing but warm feelings. I had released the id monster from its hindbrain depths, and danced a little jig with it.

I guess it just feels too good. And I’ve no doubt she would’ve done the same had the shoe been on the other foot. Any woman would’ve done the same. But don’t bother asking them. They’ll deny deny deny. They’ve got an image to burnish, you see.

Note: As with many of my posts, the chronology of this post has been altered to protect the innocent. Namely, me.

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  1. on April 21, 2010 at 11:08 am fgf

    you’re wearing a hat??

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  2. on April 21, 2010 at 11:13 am The Truth

    You could have brought the ex back home for a threesome.

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  3. on April 21, 2010 at 11:15 am Steve Johnson

    Note: As with many of my posts, the chronology of this post has been altered to protect the innocent. Namely, me.

    Pleading “innocent”. Lame.

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  4. on April 21, 2010 at 11:48 am Jane

    Roissy goes to Bed Bath & Beyond?

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  5. on April 21, 2010 at 11:49 am Vincent Ignatius

    “Ooh, I’m curious. Which one is she? Let’s walk by her and I’ll stick my ass out for you to smack. Yay!”

    Not surprising at all. If individual women had the ability to amass power as well as men, this world would have a thousand Hitlers.

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  6. on April 21, 2010 at 11:50 am lena

    you are either truly sadistic, incredibly immature, extremely insecure, and/or something is eating at the core of your being.

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  7. on April 21, 2010 at 11:51 am samseau

    You should add the vanity tag to this

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  8. on April 21, 2010 at 11:52 am msexceptiontotherule

    But wait…no mention was made about which of the two women is younger than the other.

    [editor: ex was a couple years older. paraphrasing that line in dazed in confused: “i get older and the girls i bang stay the same age.”]

    “The Truth:

    You could have brought the ex back home for a threesome.”

    Not if they are pissed that a former lover decided to show off the latest person they were shacking up with and THEN were asked to be part of a threesome. Don’t you know anything? 😉

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  9. on April 21, 2010 at 11:57 am Forbes

    The truth is usually simpler: she’s forgotten you (for all sorts of reasons–including never expecting you out shopping with the gf)

    [editor: in my experience, exes never forget the men they slept with. she just didn’t see me.]

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  10. on April 21, 2010 at 11:58 am Dalrock

    I think the “you should have tried for a threesome” post is mandated by law in some jurisdictions. Legal compliance is important even when tedious.

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  11. on April 21, 2010 at 12:01 pm Laura

    Sometimes I think you single men act more beta than married men. With a few exceptions such as a big purchase or clothes for himself, my husband hasn’t gone shopping with me in years.

    [editor: sometimes it’s fun to go shopping with a gf. especially if she appreciates your sense of humor.]

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  12. on April 21, 2010 at 12:06 pm Laura

    Chateau,
    I know, I was just kidding. It’s one of the things men stop wanting to do with you after you’ve been together for a while, though.

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  13. on April 21, 2010 at 12:09 pm Chris

    I agree with Lena. How much do you hate yourself, Roissy? Anyone with a modicum of self-esteem would never bother with this. Basically, you care what she thinks. Why? It’s over. If you truly did not care what she thought, you would not feel the need to impress her. Deep in the recesses of your id cowers a small boy with a self-esteem problem that, to my estimation, requires psychological attention. Thus the need to reduce women to a piece of ass to be used and tossed away and to a number (1-10).

    Unless you are doing Calorie Restriction/Optimal Nutrition integrated with a Paleo diet and working out every day, you probably look a lot dumpier than three years ago, too.

    [editor: haven’t you ever done something just for the fun of it?]

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  14. on April 21, 2010 at 12:24 pm svdog

    Why does it feels so damn good to be so damn bad?

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  15. on April 21, 2010 at 12:28 pm Scoop

    I agree with Chris’s general point, though much of his reasoning is wrong. A guy’s looks don’t matter much. What would make you more or less attractive hinges much more on your personality evolution and changes in income. Also, people who argue against grading a woman’s looks are just childish. Looks aren’t everything in dating, but they’re massively important.

    That said, he’s right that your escapade shows that you’re wildly insecure because you were really seeking validation not only from the outside, but from a totally random outsider. You were acting just as pathetically as people who go back to high school reunions and hang out exclusively with classmates who have fared worse in life. Massively beta.

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  16. on April 21, 2010 at 12:52 pm kaikou

    So if your ex would have saw you then…? Ego boost?
    Obviously shopping with hotter/younger girl was boring as fuck to have to distract yourself with a game. Then the ex didn’t even see you? Wow, just wow! At that point you had to make her see you. And the pump and dump idiot, you were with didn’t care because she is an idiot pump and dump who likes attention. So what’s the point of this post? How were you alpha or whatever?!

    [editor: care to point out in the post where i wrote the girl i was with was a pump n dump?]

    Also go shopping with a girl means your trying to prove something to her – just saying…

    [or i needed jasmine scented candles.]

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  17. on April 21, 2010 at 12:53 pm Luvsic

    Your initial dilemma of facing female tunnel vision is pretty common.

    I had an ex who referred to me as “the king” over the years, and made all manner of desperate attempts to get back together with me. Yet, I remember spotting her in a parking lot and dreading the encounter as there was no way to avoid her … but she didn’t even see me as we passed by within 15-20 feet of each other.

    Sometimes the hamster wheel works in your favor.

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  18. on April 21, 2010 at 12:57 pm counterflow1

    Facebook is one of the single greatest social equalizers in history. I’ve never been to any of my high school class reunions. I find the very idea of them pretentious forms of self-affirming smug revenge. And what’s more, thanks to Facebook, they’re entirely unnecessary now.

    There isn’t a FaceBook user who hasn’t looked up some ex or had themselves looked up who didn’t think “damn, she hit the wall pretty hard” or “damn, that guy is sandwich artist still living in my home town? WTF happened, he was the captain of the high school football team?” Roissy’s not any more insecure than everyone else doing better than their peers after 10-20 years and ‘casually’ letting that be known via a FaceBook profile. While I’ll agree that attempting to stage a “bump in” was petty and beta, I doubt it was insecurity that prompted the desire. He’s just as human as anyone else.

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  19. on April 21, 2010 at 1:00 pm Ronin

    “I told my girl about my ex being alone in the store, and how I was trying to get the ex to see us. I also told her she was hotter than my ex. Instead of chastising me for my immaturity, her eyes lit up with conspiratorial glee and she offered a strategy.

    “Ooh, I’m curious. Which one is she? Let’s walk by her and I’ll stick my ass out for you to smack. Yay!”

    Never crossed her mind that could be her in the future. God bless em alright.

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  20. on April 21, 2010 at 1:01 pm samseau

    All the psycho analysis here is bullshit. There is nothing to conclude about roissy from this story. It’s just a fun little vanity story. Don’t get your panties in a bunch, girls (and betas).

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  21. on April 21, 2010 at 1:01 pm puss-n-boots

    Roissy, in forty years you will be as pathetic as Larry King, but sans the fame and money.

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  22. on April 21, 2010 at 1:07 pm The Rookie

    I agree. If a girl expresses her love for you there’s no way she’ll ever forget. Instead she’ll use the memory of you to judge her new men. Trick is, making sure to leave such a powerful impression that no one else could measure up. A good feeling.

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  23. on April 21, 2010 at 1:10 pm walawala

    Just had that same situation but it was a kind of dance party where guys ask girls.

    I went out of my way to ignore the girl who played hot and cold and then suddenly bolted. What makes that situation so delicious is that by not asking her to dance and asking everyone around her, it drives it home she’s not on the A-List.

    She’s chatting with her orbiters and beta male admirers, but i can’t help but notice the spark in her eyes is a little blank, the bounce in her step a little flat…

    When she’s on the dance floor, I make sure I pull beside the guy she’s dancing with like a fighter plane and then cut across so he stumbles.

    I used to be of the view that this type of thing was childish, that it was somehow feeding my own insecurity. “Be nice”….fuck that.

    But now I realize that it’s actually triggering some weird feelings on her part. I can’t peek inside her head, but I can read her face. Her laughter isn’t the same as it was with me. No guy is giving her kino like I did between sets or holding her close.

    Now that I understand how the female mind works, I know this shit really plays on her insecurities, her fears. The range of emotions that include anger—a very good one, jealousy….another good one.

    That whole female sense of entitlement which I lived with all my life in falsely believing I had to be a “nice guy”…now I see the light.

    Great post.

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  24. on April 21, 2010 at 1:11 pm Game_IN_BK

    Beta of the decade???
    Man become house husband and then lets the wife fuck him in the ass with a strapon.

    http://virginityproject.typepad.com/the_virginity_project/2009/02/peg.html

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  25. on April 21, 2010 at 1:21 pm greatbooksformen

    Omg roissy u said it was on the day most womens are shopping wiotyh their partners.

    Lolozllzzllzlzlzllzl!!!

    Where are ygou living¿ in betaville? Oh yah u said it was dc. Def. Betavillleee! Lolzlozzzozozoozoz!!!!

    What day am I supposed to shop now?

    I would trather my hookup put a strap on on hjer mom and watch as her mom does me up the ass than go shopping. Loloz!!!

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  26. on April 21, 2010 at 1:49 pm dragnet

    This comment section is awash in idiocy. So I’ll say what needs to be said: of course Roissy’s behavior here is beta.

    [editor: last time i checked stroking one’s ego for the fun of it was not the definition of beta. but, hey, whatever contrivance helps you get through this blog.]

    You know what else is beta? Even having a gf—a real alpha would steer clear of committment altogether, you could say…

    But you know what?? No matter how alpha a guy is or how tight his Game is, he’s going to have beta moments. Or beta days. It just happens.

    Those of you snorting derisively about Roissy’s beta moves here are missing a key point about Game. The point of Game isn’t to create a true alpha, through and through (that guy would probably never get laid at all). It’s to create a guy who has the right combination of alpha and beta. The Game formula is this: attraction + comfort = sex. That’s basically saying alpha + beta = sex. A guy needs to have both in the right proportions. And if you have the beta in you necessary to build comfort, then yeah—you’re going be prone to occasional demonstrations of betatude. Game theory emphasizes the alpha because most guys coming up these days in the Western world have way too much fucking beta. But it doesn’t altogether dismiss the importance of having some betaness.

    It’s really about the trade-offs. It’s worth it to have just enough beta to build comfort—even if it means occassional displays of betatude. Any disagreement with this bascially proves you have no experience with actual flesh-and-blood women in the field.

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  27. on April 21, 2010 at 1:51 pm GT

    “Man become house husband and then lets the wife fuck him in the ass with a strapon.”

    We all know marriage can be a pain in the ass but c’mon…give me a break!!

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  28. on April 21, 2010 at 1:54 pm GT

    Roissy wrote: “We departed not as exes, but as former lovers, blessedly free of bitterness or rancor. And yet, when I saw my ex….”

    You flip flow from ex to former lover to ex. So she was more than a former lover? There were feelings involved and now you wanted to show off to her your new girl just to hurt the ex? Do I sense sour grapes on your part?

    [editor: ex is just convenient shorthand for writing former lover. there are 3 types of exes. an ex describes a rancorous breakup. a former lover describes an amicable breakup. and a past lover describes a relationship that ended because of circumstances out of your control.]

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  29. on April 21, 2010 at 1:57 pm z

    Men’s latent urge to “twist the knife” in female ex’s hearts has nothing on women’s instinctive inclinations to do the same. (“Its just my nature said the scorpion to the frog”). They really are meaner than us, just like a poodle is meaner than a big ol’ friendly Saint Bernard.

    Women will openly admit to wanting to make their ex’s jealous, and will actually use that word, “jealous”.

    One of my old pals used to tell me this: “Living well is the best revenge”.

    Parting shot: I wonder how many alpha-cheating fembots will eventually be very jealous of former beta lovers they kicked to the curb in ten years when the fertility window closes on them, and they see the betas out with their admittedly lesser wives with that one thing the fembots did’nt get, children. _P_ was right, living well really is the best revenge.

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  30. on April 21, 2010 at 2:02 pm O-face

    Roissy and his fan base,

    I’m a 30 yr old Indian male and I get IOIs from women in the range of 30-32 and then women in the mid 20s, all of them DC South asian women. I am looking for someone to settle long term, I have noticed that 32 y.o are easier to game and are more willing to settle but I just have this mental block of being with an older women when compared to girls in the mid 20s who are still playing the field. I am not sure if anybody else has observed this

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  31. on April 21, 2010 at 2:06 pm Polichinello

    Wow, just weird. When did Roissy become a queen bee?

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  32. on April 21, 2010 at 2:08 pm collegeboy

    lol
    going to the mall with your girlfriend is beta/try hard???
    please…
    Some of you guys take life/game way too seriously.

    Its just fun.

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  33. on April 21, 2010 at 2:12 pm john

    Sorry…this is silly. It has a twinge of ‘gay’ to it, too-the sneaky giggly trick.

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  34. on April 21, 2010 at 2:16 pm Fabian

    Everyone expects this kind of petty behavior from women Roissy. But men are supposed to take the higher road – we’re usually less petty than they are, after all. But I suppose I’m asking too much, given that this blog is about happily riding society’s ship into the sewer with you eagerly helping to paddle. Feminists must secretly love you, because even though you bitch a conservative rant, your actions fall in line with what they want – a society where everyone can be whores without consequence. Maybe at some point in your life you’ll realize that saying the right thing doesn’t matter nearly as much as committing to actions that reflect your words. Let the feminists get old alone, with their six cats and their eternally barren wombs. They are a cultural dead-end. Find the girls who have hearts, who don’t hate men, and treat them well. Use game to keep them interested if necessary, but don’t break their hearts. That’s the way of a noble man.

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  35. on April 21, 2010 at 2:33 pm Justin Ames

    I’m surprised to read comments criticizing Roissy for wanting to have a little fun with a situation…

    Who amongst you critics would not delight at the opportunity to perform such a routine if given the opportunity – particularly with an ex for which bitter feelings were present? I expect you would come down from your high horses pretty quickly under those circumstances.

    A variation of the above experience occurred with me and a particularly nasty ex of mine and it was the greatest feeling in the world to continue on down the street after that moment of triumph with my ex still sneaking glances back at us.

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  36. on April 21, 2010 at 2:56 pm Mistylook by Sadish

    I thought I told you to post more descriptions of the chateau.

    [editor: lol. alpha!]

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  37. on April 21, 2010 at 3:02 pm Firepower

    shopping with girl
    make Firepower
    head hurt!

    firepower smash

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  38. on April 21, 2010 at 3:07 pm PA

    A related fun is to go to your twentieth or twenty-fifth high school reunion either with a MUCH younger and good looking wife/girlfriend, or at least show her photo when everybody is swapping their family/children pics.

    This is a special reunion with roles reversed, men at their attactiveness peak this time around.

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  39. on April 21, 2010 at 3:14 pm French Connection

    People here need to stop their keyboard jockey alpha/beta approach to every word Roissy posts. It’s just a story.

    If you’re so damn alpha yourself, you would not be taking this much interest in the blog.

    Greatbooksformen, out of interest, why do you write like a spastic, when you’re clearly intelligent enough to hit the nail on the head in most comments you make?

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  40. on April 21, 2010 at 3:23 pm Sheila Tone

    A department store shopping trip? This is even gayer than when you critiqued the Oscars. (I see these little frolicks popping up in FeministX’s sidebar and I just can’t help myself sometimes.)

    [editor: i bet you can’t, spoogen.]

    And we know your story is BS, because at no department store in America does one find anywhere close to a majority of women shopping with male partners.

    [who said anything about a department store?]

    Especially when you factor out retired people (grrr … resisting urge to make Roissy age jokes …) At your age, most of your exes probably shop while their husbands are home watching the kids or grandkids.

    [it’s funny watching bitter shrikes like yourself chase down false leads.]

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  41. on April 21, 2010 at 3:42 pm Doug1

    O-face–

    O-face

    Roissy and his fan base,

    I’m a 30 yr old Indian male and I get IOIs from women in the range of 30-32 and then women in the mid 20s, all of them DC South asian women. I am looking for someone to settle long term, I have noticed that 32 y.o are easier to game and are more willing to settle but I just have this mental block of being with an older women when compared to girls in the mid 20s who are still playing the field. I am not sure if anybody else has observed this

    Well you’re sure FORB. Fresh onto the Roissy Blog.

    A very substantial part of Roissy, I mean Chateau’s, blog is about this phenomenon and the best way for men to maneuver within it.

    Short answer, don’t even remotely consider marrying a girl past 30 at your age. Don’t do it when you’re 5 years older either. Her fertility and looks are rapidly declining, and if she wasn’t Indian she’d have likely been riding the alpha cock carousel making her unable for far less able to pair bond/fall adoringly into love, with you. You can if desperate alieviate that desperation by short term screwing the older 30s girls but beware oops pregnancy entrapment.

    Focus on the mid 20s girls and how to best game them for short term flings or maybe a year long relationship in the mix. When 35 or older you can consider marrying a mid 20s girl that you’re now good at gaming, but in America only with a prenup like this one.

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  42. on April 21, 2010 at 3:45 pm Doug1

    And we know your story is BS, because at no department store in America does one find anywhere close to a majority of women shopping with male partners.

    [who said anything about a department store?]

    yeah bed bath and beyond does sound right.

    [editor: it wasn’t bbb.]

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  43. on April 21, 2010 at 3:49 pm Fausta

    or she was expertly avoiding acknowledging my presence. I doubted the latter
    Dude, you overestimate yourself

    [editor: i’m just basing my calculation on past experience. i know what a girl acts like when she’s pretending not to notice me. i haven’t met an ex yet who can hide her acknowledgement that well.]

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  44. on April 21, 2010 at 3:54 pm Lance

    “Unless you are doing Calorie Restriction/Optimal Nutrition integrated with a Paleo diet and working out every day, you probably look a lot dumpier than three years ago, too.”

    This is where the critical chicks just don’t get it. Women just don’t care that much about what men look like beyond a minimal level if other things are in place. There is no double standard for a dumpy male to be picky about looks because the market allows him to by women’s behavior. Don’t be mad at the truth teller, be mad at the hot girls who don’t hold men to the standards that they hold themselves to. I am almost 40 and I am leaner than I have ever been in my life, can run a mile in 4:30 and can bench my body weight 12 times and have like 6% bodyfat. If only women cared about that stuff the way men do, I’d be set. I wish they did, but they don’t. Instead they see my mediocre cubical profession, lack of job ambition, etc. It is no less “fair” or more shallow for men to rag on women for hitting the wall with age than it is for high market value women to wonder “Your 40 and still drive a Kia?” If you don’t like the double standard, you and your sisters should stop dating guys who aren’t as good looking as you are.

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  45. on April 21, 2010 at 3:59 pm Jacko

    I agree with the Roissmeister on this one. I used to go shopping all the time with my ex, because that’s what she wanted to do. If you’re with your gf and you see your ex alone at a mall or wherever, it is your duty as a man to flaunt the new gf. An ass-slap is mandatory. Those are the rules. Savor the fact you’ve banged both girls. Drink it in.

    Dismissed.

    [editor: at least someone gets it. the pleasure is its own reward.

    come to think of it, the haters get it too. they just can’t resist whipping out the holier-than-thou card when they have no chance of being tempted by vice.]

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  46. on April 21, 2010 at 4:04 pm djc

    @Chris

    You forgot the references to the small penis, and living in his Mom’s basement. Get it right next time.

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  47. on April 21, 2010 at 4:04 pm DC in Reno

    Folks, let’s just get right to it: Alpha = competitive. He was competing against the ex to show that he’s doing better than she is. That’s straight-up alpha, through and through.

    On that note, my comment is better than all of yours. Bow before my comment! Bow, bitches!

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  48. on April 21, 2010 at 4:04 pm Madras

    This sounds like solid, good fun. Way to go R.

    That said, your increasing relationship banter sort of undermines some of your maxims.

    [editor: the maxims aren’t mandates. they’re better understood as guides.]

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  49. on April 21, 2010 at 4:06 pm Jay

    The haters are out, and latching onto this story.

    Chris: “Unless you are doing Calorie Restriction/Optimal Nutrition integrated with a Paleo diet and working out every day, you probably look a lot dumpier than three years ago, too”

    Monsieur Chateau is on a primal diet, as far as I know. Working out every day would probably age you faster than working out at more sane intervals, btw.

    [editor: i’m going to put up another post on my primal diet soon. short version: weird things started happening when i cut out all wheat products.]

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  50. on April 21, 2010 at 4:08 pm Jay

    6% bodyfat, Lance? Wtf. Pics now, please.

    A dude on bodybuilding.com recently posted a pic of himself claiming to be 9% bodyfat. Clearly he was about 15-20%, and he wasn’t trolling.

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  51. on April 21, 2010 at 4:17 pm kaikou

    [editor: care to point out in the post where i wrote the girl i was with was a pump n dump?]

    Um…idk… I mean is she your wifey? Also you said you exclude stuff from you posts to protect yourself, right? So I can’t prove shit, I have no problem saying that. If your not married to her she might as well be a pump n dump.

    [editor: there is a gradient between pump n dump and wifey.]

    [or i needed jasmine scented candles.]

    hopefully these are being used to seduce other women… otherwise….

    [the candles are for my alpha turds.]

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  52. on April 21, 2010 at 4:21 pm Polichinello

    .they just can’t resist whipping out the holier-than-thou card when they have no chance of being tempted by vice.

    Taking some schadenfreude from a chance encounter is normal. If you’d gone up to your ex and straightforwardly said “hi.”, that’d be understandable. It’s the strange, persistent orbiting you described in your post that’s weird, and somewhat sad.

    [editor: literary license. do you really believe i was “orbiting” my ex around the store while my gf waited for me to return? come on, man use some sense.]

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  53. on April 21, 2010 at 4:29 pm Backdoor Man

    What’s wrong with shopping with your girl?

    [editor: there’s nothing wrong with it. harridans like spoogen just don’t have any men in their lives who like them enough to want to be in their company on shopping excursions.]

    I always accompany my woman when she goes shopping for clothes (which, fortunately, is not too often). When other woman see me sizing up my woman’s clothes, ordering her to walk around, tugging at her pants or blouse, and openly criticizing or admiring how they fit her, other women in the store definitely take notice. Many a shopgirl has given me the eye and told me they would love for their boyfriend to do the same.

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  54. on April 21, 2010 at 4:35 pm Anonymous

    I nominate Roissy for beta of the month.

    [editor: i bet a gerbil suffocated while you were writing that.]

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  55. on April 21, 2010 at 4:38 pm kaikou

    lolz dude gots it right….why do you know what the best shopping day is or whatever? I worked in retail before and I don’t even know.

    @ Oface
    Dude stfu settle down then. If the 20 yrs. want you then you would have them.

    @Doug1
    Indian women aren’t the only ones who don’t ride the cock-o-wheel.

    @Lance
    I hold anyone I associate with to a standard. True- I have deverge myself from it, but it’s there. I am told constently to lower my standards but I never will (officially). If you look good and aren’t an idiot loser then we can talk. What year is your Kia btw? This might be the problem.

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  56. on April 21, 2010 at 4:43 pm dragnet

    [editor: last time i checked stroking one’s ego for the fun of it was not the definition of beta. but, hey, whatever contrivance helps you get through this blog.]

    I see your point, but I just read this post differently. I mean, you seemed really, really, REALLY determined to get her to notice you and your new squeeze. And it struck me as beta…which is actually fine from where I sit. If you have the right combination of alpha/beta, then occasionally you’ll have beta slippage. It’s worth the trade-off to be able to deploy effective comfort game at the right moments, IMHO.

    [editor: i’m just a naughty, mischievous yute. momma not the metal spoon!]

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  57. on April 21, 2010 at 4:43 pm Polichinello

    do you really believe i was “orbiting” my ex around the store while my gf waited for me to return?

    Sorry, I should have been more precise. You were”flitting about the store like a hummingbird”.

    Perfectly normal guy behavior that.

    [editor: reread the post. the ex was flitting about the store. i was attempting to capitalize on those moments when she happened to flit nearby.]

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  58. on April 21, 2010 at 4:43 pm kaikou

    @Roissy

    ok ok she is not a pump n dump or a wifey. Got it! I wonder what she think she is?

    [editor: the luckiest girl in the world.]

    I am glad to hear you care that your shit don’t stink!

    [alpha turd stink strong like musk oxen. scented candles whimper with fear.]

    Ugh… if only I could meet a guy like you. At what age do guys stop thinking the smell of shit is funny?

    [you may as well ask at what age guys stop looking at boobies.]

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  59. on April 21, 2010 at 4:44 pm haha

    shopping for the panties I’m going to take off her later = an excellent experience. Oh the looks you get from other people.

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  60. on April 21, 2010 at 4:48 pm Astra

    “[i haven’t met an ex yet who can hide her acknowledgement that well.]”

    Or maybe you just did.

    [editor: noted. but ya gotta play the odds. which reminds me: don’t get married! this has been a pubic service announcement.]

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  61. on April 21, 2010 at 4:49 pm Mopenhauer

    Evolutionary psychology is a TULIP Biocalvinism that NO individuals can escape. All hierarchies are shaped by genes. Occasionally those destined for alphaness are born outside their caste. The American Dream fixes those few anomalies.

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  62. on April 21, 2010 at 5:10 pm Polichinello

    [editor: reread the post. the ex was flitting about the store. i was attempting to capitalize on those moments when she happened to flit nearby.

    Okay, but in my defense, the following is a bit ambiguous:

    Nevertheless, no matter how much I maneuvered, I couldn’t needle my ex with my profound pettiness. She remained steadfastly unaware of my presence, flitting about the store like a hummingbird.

    At any rate, you were “maneuvering”, which doesn’t undercut the substance of my point, military imagery notwithstanding.

    [editor: longtime readers will know that i like to creatively describe actual events. i should hope there is enough common sense in the land that some of my more colorful terminology isn’t taken literally.

    btw, this comment has caused the thread to become 10% less fun.]

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  63. on April 21, 2010 at 5:13 pm anoukange

    “I doubted the latter, because usually even the best actresses cannot hold it together with zen-like calm and serenity when bumping into an ex who left such an indelible impression on them.”

    –Wanna bet? It’s called peripheral vision and focus.

    [editor: please woman. you underestimate just how adept *experienced* men are at noticing when women are noticing them. there’s no hiding from the eye of sauron.]

    And yes, guys don’t shop with their girls, it is kinda beta, and most likely the reason your ex was sans boyfriend/husband.

    [depends on the kind of shopping. browsing sidewalk boutiques for sex toys? good fun! as for my ex, i know her better than you do. she wouldn’t be at the place i was by herself without a man. it’s not in her constitution.]

    Maybe couples shop in the “new” as in the first year or so, but after that, it’s all electronic stores for them and Anthropologie for us, with meet ups in between to poke fun at the each other of course.

    [sounds like you haven’t met a guy yet who would enjoy your company, or you his, while shopping.]

    Hot for each other lovers do shop together but they’re always in Europe where romance is woven into the thread of the culture, being so very much practiced and encouraged as it is over there. mmmmm….

    [romance is what you make of it. europe does not hold the deed on romance weaving.]

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  64. on April 21, 2010 at 5:28 pm kaikou

    @Roissy

    Never the less you made an effort according to you to cover it via Jasmine. I heart you! Hopefully you are also hot, dress nice, and have a promising career that is different then mine – but this only matters because you covered you scent.

    How do you feel about Lavander btw?

    [editor: the scent or the color of my cockhead when it’s nestled in the crack of your buttocks?

    who says romance is dead? oui oui madame!]

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  65. on April 21, 2010 at 5:57 pm askjoe

    damn, the haters are out and flailing about.

    [editor: flailing is the operative word.]

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  66. on April 21, 2010 at 5:58 pm me me me

    As I maneuvered closer to my ex through the aisles of clothes and kitchenware
    —————————————————–

    You were at Walmart!!!! 😛

    [editor: baby, you know my favorite shopping destination is me me memart. always drive a hard bargain, but in the end it’s worth it.]

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  67. on April 21, 2010 at 6:04 pm Sheila Tone

    “harridans like spoogen just don’t have any men in their lives who like them enough to want to be in their company on shopping excursions”

    Now, that’s not true — I love shopping with gay men and my platonic male friends who listen to my problems. Which is what I’ll be your female companion was doing, with you …

    [editor: yeah, i can see why men would LOVE spending time with a broad who’s always dumping her problems on them. pull up a chair, this is gonna take all day.]

    “who said anything about a department store?”

    … at Costco, then.

    [guess again. (and i know you will)]

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  68. on April 21, 2010 at 6:16 pm Laura

    PA said:
    “A related fun is to go to your twentieth or twenty-fifth high school reunion either with a MUCH younger and good looking wife/girlfriend, or at least show her photo when everybody is swapping their family/children pics.
    This is a special reunion with roles reversed, men at their attactiveness peak this time around.”

    You’re heartless. If there are any former girlfriends in attendance you are going to ruin their night.

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  69. on April 21, 2010 at 6:17 pm Silver Fox

    Well played Roissy…

    I have to get off the web…i’m losing it!

    Have a virtual version of this:

    I just found an ex-who I dated at 27, she was a 10, made the cover of NY Magazine as Trainer to the Stars.

    She is now on a major dating site over 40, single, and OK looking.

    Meanwhile I have a date with a gal 20 yrs her junior tonite.

    So, I banged her brains out at 29, and now I am banging 20 somethings and she never found a husband EVEN though she was a confirmed 10….bittersweet

    My profile is replete with evidence of 15yrs of success, accomplishment and high priced toys….not to mention my trim physique and hair.

    Sent her a neutral email….awaiting reply

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  70. on April 21, 2010 at 6:24 pm Steve

    Lance, I hear you brothah!
    I’ve got a similar set of personal conditions.
    Not getting more ‘leverage’ out of my age-defying athleticism can be frustrating. I guess one solution is to find a fuck buddy or FWB. Such a woman might be more likely to appreciate a great body and sexual prowess (with an easy-going, non-clinging attitude), while being indifferent to one’s modest materialistic status.

    However, finding a good FB or FWB is easier said than done. I’ve done it now & then (kinda random luck I guess), but it seems to be much less likely than finding a woman who wants a conventional dating pattern. And I don’t want to be cruising bars & clubs (unless it looks like it’s gotta be that or celibacy).
    Hey other readers, any advice on the most effective search for a good FB or FWB?
    (What? You say I can’t spend all my free time alone in my apartment?? Nooo!!!)

    One consolation for me, having this particular combo of good & bad in my life now, is that, with luck, one can reverse years of financial weakness rather quickly, but the rewards (results) of staying dedicated to fitness & nutrition since you were 15 or so cannot be suddenly acquired if you neglected your body for your first 30 years or so…

    Yup, regardless of how anyone else may respond to you (or not), you’re living in your body 24 hours a day, and you’re stuck in this one for the rest of your life.
    It’s an area of endeavor independent upon having anyone else decide to respond positively. It’s good to know I can definitely get the rewards for paying the price, not needing anyone else to say “Yes”; not doing all that work and just hoping others will decide to respond positively. In so many other areas of life, others say “No” (despite the excellence you may present) for all kinds of fucked up reasons of their own.

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  71. on April 21, 2010 at 6:33 pm kaikou

    [editor: the scent or the color of my cockhead when it’s nestled in the crack of your buttocks?

    who says romance is dead? oui oui madame!]

    Both! I really don’t need you getting me all tingly at my student job, it might not go over well with the older lady boss. But hey the gina wants what it wants!

    Also how did you know I had a great ass?

    [editor: male intuition.]

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  72. on April 21, 2010 at 6:36 pm fuck, marry, kill

    always drive a hard bargain
    roissy f,f,f

    what girl doesn’t like her “bargains” hard?

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  73. on April 21, 2010 at 6:47 pm sdaedalus

    This all makes perfect sense up to here:-

    We left the store mission unaccomplished

    What was it that stopped you in your tracks? Compassion?

    [editor: an overpowering desire for margaritas.]

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  74. on April 21, 2010 at 6:48 pm dana

    sheila tone wants to make sex with roissy

    [editor: why do i get the feeling her pussy comes equipped with subpoenas and a gavel-shaped clit?]

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  75. on April 21, 2010 at 6:54 pm sdaedalus

    editor: an overpowering desire for margaritas.

    Smooth response, but doesn’t really ring true somehow.

    Do tell what the real reason was, or we may suspect you of having a conscience.

    [editor: i swear occifer, that’s exactly how it went down!]

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  76. on April 21, 2010 at 6:57 pm tunacanman

    puss-n-boots
    you are an idiot.

    if roissy just assembles a compendium of these blog posts and sells it, He’ll get a cool million self publishing it and pre-selling it… Just from selling it to the fans and fake haters on the blog. Admit it, you’d buy it just to tingle a bit while you shower the book with feaux disdain and stealing glances around the store hoping to catch jedi master roissy.

    Roissy, you should consider quadrupling the price for signed copies handed out over a beer with the master… or tack on $500 – lottery style – for a chance to go sarging together with the renegade himself.

    Keep the 15% (that i’d charge for my financial brilliance) as a donation to the chateau and future expansions – and yet I feel as if I’m still underpaying.

    (PS, puss-n-boots, if you need to get a pimpslap and a quick PnD, let me know I *may* entertain the thought for you.)

    [editor: i dunno about the beer part. half these nutcases would probably love the chance to meet me and use my skin for a size 12 dress.]

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  77. on April 21, 2010 at 7:05 pm sdaedalus

    Don’t believe you. You’re toying with us here, something is being held back.

    [editor: nope. we skedaddled because we both wanted a tasty beverage to see out the day.]

    PS: was the hat a fedora?

    [donned at a jaunty angle.]

    PPS: perhaps you underestimated your ex.

    [she looked withered. like life had tossed her a low, hard slider since last i knew her. ‘course i could be wrong. HAHAHHAAAA no i’m right.]

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  78. on April 21, 2010 at 7:07 pm tunacanman

    roissy, an update on NYC game would be appreciated, since I’m relocating there. here’s why:

    Interestingly enough, I was just setup on 3 “meetup dates” while on my last trip up where the girls met us out already at the clubs. quality solid, but competition high too.

    Setup Results:
    1) a “plus” size model – a cute size 4, but hot – only thing that queered this was the bevy of oter, hotter thinner chics around.. I got her to ask for my digits and bailed
    2) very hot, but shiny magpie distraction syndrom rich girl that was also a drug hound.. immediate bail after I realizeda PnD would be too much effort and possibly dangerous.
    3)a wallflower exceptionally boring model that was making the effort, but my clear dislike/boredom shined thru
    vs.
    SARGING RESULTS:
    on that experience alone, you’d think I had a shitty NYC trip, then I went on to sarge “sans setup” and within 90 minutes had digits, kiss closed and hug closed 4 gals two 8s, 1 7, and one 6 including a very viable same night close (yes it was the 6…*shamed blush*).

    The bonus? I kiss closed one of them after incredible wit game on another – within sight of each other – and I got the kiss close to kiss me three times before I finally kissed her back. (With all girls emailing and/or txting me the next day…

    So the verdict is in: setups are for chumps and this roissy shit really works even for a newbie to the city- I have a carousel of tingles awaiting my return.

    Truly, my kitty runneth over…

    And hence the request for a future episode of NYC focused game posts. I want to step it up another notch!!

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  79. on April 21, 2010 at 7:13 pm tunacanman

    sorry for rambling on, but also Facebook gamed to setup 4 dates before I even got to the city – I wound up cancelling on each of them one reason or another, and they are also lined up for next trip…but FB game is an entirely missed facet of the crystal that is the Chateau. Just wanted to double underline that.

    Loving the realtime feedback comments – you’re a mensch!

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  80. on April 21, 2010 at 7:20 pm sdaedalus

    Heart like polished flint, how sad, what happened to magnaminity in victory?

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  81. on April 21, 2010 at 7:21 pm sdaedalus

    Apologies that should read magnanimity in victory, I was too lazy to check the spelling before sending, how embarrassing.

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  82. on April 21, 2010 at 7:28 pm anoukange

    Editor said: “there are 3 types of exes. an ex describes a rancorous breakup. a former lover describes an amicable breakup. and a past lover describes a relationship that ended because of circumstances out of your control.”

    –I like that. Although I tend to use ex too loosely then, so I will switch to former lovers always.

    also,

    “there’s no hiding from the eye of sauron.”
    –I still think I could pull it off.

    “depends on the kind of shopping.”
    –yes, it does. Lingerie is a whole different story.

    “sounds like you haven’t met a guy yet who would enjoy your company, or you his, while shopping.”

    –I covered myself by saying it must be in the “new”. If you are telling this story from dating her three years into it, well….well done. I was saying shopping after years together becomes more about efficiency and the romance is for other things. Strolling through Georgetown looking at books with a stop for a drink is certainly excluded from my above take on it.

    “romance is what you make of it. europe does not hold the deed on romance weaving”
    –This I know all too well, thanks. Was just busting the balls of the US for being such a downer on open displays of affection and the such. Disappearing behind clothing racks isn’t always well received here for some reason…??

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  83. on April 21, 2010 at 7:38 pm Tom

    Following a girl shopping? Giving in to beta impulses to prove your value, then practically begging about them? Hiding instead of preying on a woman’s tendency to assume any girl who has what she wants is hotter? For the sake of consistency, edit down to you telling the girl you’re with that your ex is around and your new thing volunteering an ass smack.

    That, or this post better go the way of that Guilt post. You getting sick or something?

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  84. on April 21, 2010 at 7:39 pm me me me

    [editor: baby, you know my favorite shopping destination is me me memart. always drive a hard bargain, but in the end it’s worth it.]

    ————————————————————–

    I’m made of rubber and my shoe is made of glue. Your game bounces off of me and sticks to the bottom of my shoe! Booyah!

    I’m kidding, you totally made me blush! Darn it!!!!!

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  85. on April 21, 2010 at 7:53 pm Dave from Hawaii

    Heh. Anoukange’s post about European “romance” reminded me of the classic Onion piece: [url=http://www.theonion.com/articles/european-men-are-so-much-more-romantic-than-americ,11552/]European Men Are So Much More Romantic Than American Men[/url]

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  86. on April 21, 2010 at 7:54 pm Dave from Hawaii

    Ooops – mixing up my UBB and HTML tags…

    European Men Are So Much More Romantic Than American Men

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  87. on April 21, 2010 at 8:45 pm gig

    Also how did you know I had a great ass?

    that nick, kaikou

    when I first read it, I thought: “I Bet this girl is hot”.

    since hotness, even imagined, is good thing, I never bothered to read what you write to avoid finding any evidence against your hotness as suggested by this supperbly chosen nickname “Kaikou”

    [editor: “please babydoll, don’t talk and ruin the view”]

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  88. on April 21, 2010 at 8:48 pm gig

    Following a girl shopping? Giving in to beta impulses to prove your value, then practically begging about them? .

    nyet, kamerad

    the question here is: was he paying or not?

    Since he wasn’t, going shopping is actually a good move. Because girls, whose moods are unpredictable, will be as happy as they can get when shopping

    [editor: i admit, i did carry the bags. they were heavy. i flexed courageously.]

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  89. on April 21, 2010 at 8:53 pm Cannon's Canon

    wow, that is an incredible handle. i needed google

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  90. on April 21, 2010 at 8:54 pm Bhetti

    Kaikou described she was hot in a maybe kind-a exotic way and wondered what men saw in her.

    So I call for pics.

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  91. on April 21, 2010 at 9:03 pm anoukange

    Dave-

    I referenced to the romantic cities and atmosphere of Europe, not the men in particular, although they do tend to have better style (generally speaking) than American men. If only they’d put some socks on with those loafers.

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  92. on April 21, 2010 at 9:17 pm gig

    this shopping stuff needs to be clarified. people hear and always imagine the married couple shopping for gorceries, which is hell on Earth.

    The other case, the un-married couple where the guy is not paying, is a completely different animal. Girls will allow you much more in isolated aisles than in the nightclub, just because their frivolous moods will be much higher than in nightclubs

    [editor: gig you are truly onto something here. bless you brother.]

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  93. on April 21, 2010 at 9:33 pm Grampa

    This is where the people like our host differ from the ordinary type like me. I would have gone up to her, hugged her, and said how nice it was to see her.

    And, I would have been telling the truth. Don’t you care about your ex-lovers? I guess you must be a sociopath. That is not bad for you, just for the people you hoodwink into thinking there is anything behind your mask.

    What woman worth having would not condemn the behavior described in this post?

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  94. on April 21, 2010 at 9:36 pm White Woman

    “i’m just a naughty, mischievous yute.”

    The word is yutz Hon. It’s interesting to watch you self destruct but I do feel sorry for you.

    [editor: no, the word is yute, as in a joe pesci-ian youth. yutz is what you stick up your cooch when the neighbor’s sheep dog isn’t around.]

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  95. on April 21, 2010 at 9:41 pm kaikou

    @gig

    You make me blush! Kaikou is Japanese.
    @Bhetti

    I have pics! artist nude or clothed? Seriously though in my pending career any “pics” or synonmous information has to remain limited as it could hurt me later on.

    I feel like there is a different looks scale for someone who is “exotic” and someone who may be more “traditional” at least to a key demographic. No?

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  96. on April 21, 2010 at 9:59 pm Anton

    Are you kidding me? Shopping with your new girl is a tinglelator. “How about that little black dress?” “Now it needs stilettos”. “Let’s check it out in the dressing room, shall we?”

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  97. on April 21, 2010 at 10:10 pm White Woman

    Nope, yutz is def more appropriate…hmmm I see I struck a nerve.

    [editor: flicking the bean again?]

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  98. on April 21, 2010 at 10:16 pm kaikou

    @ Roissy

    White Women hate you!

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  99. on April 21, 2010 at 10:39 pm Jeffrey of Troy

    […half these nutcases would probably love the chance to meet me and use my skin for a size 12 dress.]

    “I should not want to cut the flesh…to tear the flesh…to …wear the flesh…to be reborn into new worlds where the flesh is the key.”

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  100. on April 21, 2010 at 10:48 pm White Woman

    Flicking the bean again? Are you asking if I’m having sex with Mexicans?

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  101. on April 21, 2010 at 11:16 pm Mopenhauer

    George Gilder was originally a pre-Roissy Roissyite who early on developed several important Roissyarian ideas based on Darwinian conservatism. He has since defected to the Discovery Institute. He offers a pretty good summary of the 2010 state ideology of America in the National Review:

    “Darwinism seemed to offer me and its other male devotees a long-sought tool — resembling the x-ray glasses lamentably found elsewhere only in cartoons — for stripping away the distracting décor of clothing and the political underwear of ideology worn by feminists and other young women of the day. Using this swashbuckling scheme of fitness and survival, nature “red in tooth and claw,” we could reveal our ideological nemeses as naked mammals on the savannah to be ruled and protected by hunting parties of macho males, rather like us. “

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  102. on April 21, 2010 at 11:23 pm ahappinessexperiment

    Roissy’s best posts are those which are hardest to read. This was one of the hardest, and best.

    Those who claim they can can handle the truth glibly are either lying or missing a heart muscle. The truth is hard to handle whether u r alpha or otherwise. a cruel fate awaits all.

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  103. on April 21, 2010 at 11:26 pm yohami

    Not very alpha. If you care about that girl just walk and give her a hug. If you dont, why bother.

    Yet you wanted her to see you, but you didnt want to show you cared? what the fuck.

    I liked the just say “hi” post from the other day a lot better.

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  104. on April 22, 2010 at 12:18 am Rum

    I will admit to doing the cruelty to an ex routine and it felt pretty good every time. Then I would sober up and wonder why I went to the trouble. And some of us depend on the continued good will from some of our exes. For important things. Best not to piss it away for cheap thrills, imho.

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  105. on April 22, 2010 at 1:00 am ahappinessexperiment

    keep in mind people that Pettiness is in the title of this post. there is little pride in it, mainly confession.

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  106. on April 22, 2010 at 1:01 am JB

    Nietzsche — what can one say?

    “The happiness of man is: I will. The happiness of woman is: he wills. ‘Behold, just now the world became perfect!’—thus thinks every woman when she obeys out of entire love. And women must obey and find a depth for her surface. Surface is the disposition of woman: a mobile, stormy film over shallow water. Man’s disposition, however, is deep; his river roars in subterranean caves: woman feels his strength but does not comprehend it.”

    Roissy is a fine writer, but I’m not sure anything in the PU canon tops this.

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  107. on April 22, 2010 at 1:40 am unlearning genius ...

    @Roissy,

    jeez man, why so many haters these days? ..

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  108. on April 22, 2010 at 3:38 am Anon

    Wow, you and your hot girlfriend are like, totally cool!!!!

    Assuming you’re both in junior high.

    If not, your mutual levels of vindictive immaturity are simply breathtaking.

    Most people grow out of this shit by the age of sixteen.

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  109. on April 22, 2010 at 4:12 am xsplat

    Anton

    Are you kidding me? Shopping with your new girl is a tinglelator. “How about that little black dress?” “Now it needs stilettos”. “Let’s check it out in the dressing room, shall we?”

    Yup. I only shop with girls who thrill me. Otherwise I tell them that I’m not a girl and to go with her girlfriends. With a thrilling girl being near each other is having sex – everything is a turn on and everything is sex. Clothes shopping is sex.

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  110. on April 22, 2010 at 7:51 am Jonathan

    I cannot believe how many clueless commenters are characterizing Roissy’s behavior as “beta”. I’m not worried about Roissy, but I am worried about the readers who are here to improve their game, because they might take this nonsense to heart.

    Listen guys, if you think you are “above” this kind of behavior, that may well be what’s keeping you beta. Few things characterize an alpha more surely than FREE, UNINHIBITED SELF-EXPRESSION, however petty that self might be. Alphas are the guys who picked on you in high school, and alphas are the guys who love to fuck with their exes. Because it’s FUN. And the fact that betas disapprove of it makes it even MORE FUN.

    The more I read discussions like this, the more I realize why it’s so hard for betas to learn game. They are afraid to offend anyone, but they CANNOT SEE that fact; instead they invent post-hoc rationalizations why they’re too good to do that which they are afraid to do. After years of cognitive dissonance, they lose all contact with their own desires and their fear of carrying out those desires, replacing it with moralism. (All you guys who are trying to get game, read this paragraph three times and meditate on it for the rest of the day.)

    Changing the subject, I love to accompany my girlfriend when she shops for clothes. Of course, this is because (1) I join her in the dressing room, (2) she is hot, and (3) she too is sexually aroused by my watching her change.

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  111. on April 22, 2010 at 10:02 am Anon

    Jonathan –

    Look, take James Bond as the walking, talking template of all things alpha. If ever you want to know if certain behaviour is alpha or not, ask yourself if you can see (Sean Connery’s version of) 007 doing it.

    Can you see 007 slapping a woman round the face during a row? Hell yes.

    Can you see 007 walking casually away from woman after woman after woman, leaving a trail of broken hearts and broken promises in his indifferent wake? Hell yes.

    Can you see 007 mincing round a fucking dress shop like a neurotic little bitch, going round and round in circles in the hope of attracting the attention of an entirely oblivious ex-girlfriend – in the hope that ‘LOL Pussy Galore will see me and she’ll be like so upset because I’m holding hands with Solitaire who is SOOOOO much hotter than she is. And then maybe those big mean jocks who used to flush my head down the john in high school will see me doing it and acting so cruel and ALPHA and they’ll be so impressed that they’ll think I’m COOL at last and maybe they’ll buy me a beer!!!!!!!’

    Um.

    Sad, sad, sad. Sorry.

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  112. on April 22, 2010 at 11:04 am Anton

    “Clothes shopping is sex”–xsplat

    Couldn’t have said it better myself.

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  113. on April 22, 2010 at 11:35 am Lance

    I am a distance runner, top 20 or so in the country for my age. So 6% bodyfat is the norm, but I lift some too so I don’t look like a stick Kenyan. I am told I look like Lance Armstrong.

    Yeah, I drive a new basic Kia – I have an advanced degree but care little for money and wealth stuff – I just put most of it in the bank to retire early – have several years salary in a savings account and just live in a new, but basic, house with no fancy trappings. Live simply and save so I might be able to ditch working before I am too old to have fun. Chicks who call guys shallow for worrying about looks are the same ones who would try to get me to spend my savings on nonsense for them like jewelry and chain myself to a job forever and would ignore my decent looks. And I don’t fault them for it – they are just looking out for themselves, as I do. Happily, one can find active athletic chicks out there who are as “shallow” as guys about looks instead of being shallow about wealth and status. But most of the good looking girls I know who are married are married to guys 1 or 2 looks points beneath them but are doctors or whatever. I don’t resent this at all until these same women accuse guys of being shallow for caring about their looks. We are all “shallow” for something. The funny part is how all these women will invent reasons as to why, coincidentally, they happened to “fall in love” with a mediocre looker who happens to have money.

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  114. on April 22, 2010 at 5:22 pm pershifer

    Oh don’t be bitter Lance, all those behaviours have been hardwired into our DNA as the result of our evolutionary process. Men look for signs of a healthy reproduction system in women i.e. 0.7 hip ratio, clear skin, big boobs and women look for men who can provide them food and shelter to raise their children or nowadays, their luxurious lifestyle. I’m surprised man ‘your age’ and hasn’t figured that out yet..

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  115. on April 22, 2010 at 7:16 pm Anou

    That was cruel of you and your girlfriend. Why purposely make someone who seems down feel bad about themselves? Treat people how you’d want to be treated.

    I hate how people on this blog seem to use evolution and Darwin as excuses for their horrible behaviour. We aren’t just eating, breeding organisms, everyone has feelings and consciousness… what you do and say really impacts.

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  116. on April 22, 2010 at 9:43 pm ASPIRANT

    I don’t think that, even if this was taken at it’s worst, would be all that beta… at least from my understanding of the word.

    Roissy is being an asshole, and I’d slap him if I saw him in person, but this isn’t cloying for affection, or undermining one’s own value in exchange for someone’s favor. It’s schadenfreude.

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  117. on April 22, 2010 at 9:50 pm ASPIRANT

    Anou: You obviously haven’t been dealing with these kinds of fatalistic assholes as long as I have. Your pleas for humanity have no effect on them, because they believe they have transcended morality, empathy, even common decency. They’ve undermined their own value to the point that they see themselves as little more than breeding machines. They no longer derive satisfaction from being the kind of creature they can live with being, and focus on grabbing whatever they can out of life, with both hands, regardless of the ill effects for anyone else. All in the name of “truth”.

    Because, hey, all that matters is personal pleasure, right? Not dignity or morality. DEFINITELY not.

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  118. on April 22, 2010 at 9:52 pm ASPIRANT

    Also, my most recent comment was the truest example of beta I can imagine. Enjoy it, playas.

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  119. on April 22, 2010 at 10:01 pm valued

    Why do you care so much about what this woman still thinks? And it is really arrogant to compare one’s sexual practices with the heroism of men at war. When it comes to women’s memories, they usually remember the romance, the feelings, it is not the sex that is ‘unforgettable’. Not to diminish the meaning of sex (and it can be particularly good/intense in late teens/early 20s), but when women think back to their ex lovers they don’t put the main emphasis on sex but what they did to them romantically.

    And to call the woman you’re with a ‘girlfriend’.. well, you have to date at least a half a year for that. Are you even capable of that? Be careful with those young ones, you’re pushing 40 and a girl in her early/mid 20s might not even be thinking of settling for anything serious. She might pump and dump you.

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  120. on April 22, 2010 at 10:03 pm valued

    p.s. and your ex might have just been tired. Yea, maybe a bit sad after having learned what men can really be like.. after all she was with you. And to be honest, it doesn’t look like you will ever have a normal LTR with a decent woman, everything you write here indicates that the odds are against you.

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  121. on April 22, 2010 at 10:07 pm valued

    With exes, if it’s been over 2 years, I don’t give a shit who they date and what they think..

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  122. on April 22, 2010 at 10:30 pm walawala

    This blog reminds me of how women I’ve dated or gone out with have done this same behaviour.

    In one case many years ago, a woman I’d been madly in love with (read beta) had dumped me.

    Then she made a point of putting a message on her answering machine saying “I’m not in right now…but if this is [Bloke’s name] I’ll give you a call when I return from xxxx” Nice…

    Why would you do that unless you knew that at some point I would call and get that?

    This whole posting tells it like it is. Perhaps the role reversal makes some feel uncomfortable.

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  123. on April 23, 2010 at 8:41 am Pupu

    How a girl looks when she is:

    shopping at Target alone < shopping at Macy's alone =< shopping at Bloomingdale's alone <shopping at Target with her BF < going on a date with her BF

    It is amazing the ex's look is only down 1 point when she is alone shopping in a Target-like store.

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  126. on May 3, 2010 at 10:59 am koluis

    I like this content so much.Imagination is more important than knowledge.

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