Zeets phoned in from the bowels of DC.
“They passed this law that puts a five cent fee on each bag you use at a store. The city’s already made something like $150K off it.”
“Leftie fascists.”
“So I’m standing in line at Giant and don’t have a reusable bag with pictures of basil on it because I’m not a fag. The herb in front of me doesn’t have a reusable bag either. When the cashier asks if he needs a bag he hangs his head down in shame and sheepishly says yes. He couldn’t make eye contact with anyone.”
“So this is the new SWPL status signal, the reusable bag?”
“I hate them all. Anyhow, there’s a line of fifteen yuppies behind me. The cashier asks if I need a bag. With my head held high I proudly say ‘Yes, I want a bag. And double bag the milk.'”
“I like the use of the word ‘want’ instead of ‘need’. Very sly.”
“Thank you. I made sure to scan the line when I said it. I wanted those herbs to cower in fear.”
“Did you grunt a little for emphasis?”
“There was a genital display as well. When you walk down the streets here all the shamed-faced hipsters with plastic bags try to hide them in their coats or behind their backs so people don’t notice. This country needs a good, cleansing total war.”
Stick to alpha talk about play rape. Destroying the environment is so beta.
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Rivelino,
Save the environment and kill yourself.
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Over here in Australia at a surf shop chain call city beach they attempt to sell you reusable bags for like $4 “in support of diabetes/heart disease/generic human ailment”.
I take great pride in denying there blatant attempt at profiteering, making sure to throw in a hearty chuckle. Fuckers.
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cool story bro
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I rarely succumb to the word, but this is plain retarded.
Yes – decorative reusable tote bags can be faggy, but not as lame as taking pride in overusing throw away plastics. Plastics break down, get in our water supply, cause hormonal disruption and mutations.
Back to the gulags with you – grow some fucking perspective!
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The reusable bags are much easier to carry, especially the giant should bags at Whole Foods. The IKEA bags work well too.
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god bless the troops–the true alphas!!
& they can dance!!!
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mixed feelings on this.
on the one hand i hate the nanny state and all that ‘tread lightly on mother earth’ SWPL nonsense, but the zeets attitude seems completely reactionary.
we would all likely be better off if people used less plastic bags, ate less factory-farmed mystery meat and were in general more consious of what they consume. the problem is that big government is not the way to get there. go to any ghetto or white trash neighborhood and you’ll see a bunch of fat people, crappy fast-food places and a whole bunch of litter.
this is the infuriating thing about SWPLs. they all come from upper middle class families in nice pleasant and safe neighborhoods and had parents who made sure they got a good education and stayed out of trouble. being unable to see the forest for the trees they assume that the reason they had it so good was because of money and not because of a concerned and responsible family. then, they wrongly deduce that the way to help people is to demand more government and social services while demanding less individual accountability. rinse and repeat and one day you wake up in the age of the seemingly-benevolent, all-encompassing, “we know what’s best for you” big brother.
all that said, i try not to use unnecccesary disposable bags, but i certainly do not feel guilty when i do. i also refuse to use those reusable tote bags that people carry over their shoulder. a man wearing a bag like that over his shoulder is teh gay.
i carry my groceries in my blackhawk three-day assault bag; the same one i carried in afghanistan.
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“Plastics break down, get in our water supply, cause hormonal disruption and mutations.”
When I was in school they told us that the problem with plastics is that they DON’T break down.
Saving the environment is fine and I am all for it. But overpopulation is the biggest threat to nature and the same geeks using reusable bags are the same ones who protest doing anything about immigration (the biggest cause of overpopulation in the U.S.).
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GBFM,
I have no idea what your day job is, but you should consider a career in counseling. I picture you in one of those booths like Lucy has in the “Peanuts” comic strip, “Psychiatric Help 5 cents”, and when someone spouts their tedious problems you whack them upside the head with one of your Zen-like lozzl-bombs.
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That reminds me of this little gem.
Bart: What the hell is this? (watching “Amendment to Be”)
Lisa: It’s one of those campy ’70s throwbacks that appeals to Generation X’ers.
Bart: We need another Vietnam to thin out their ranks a little!
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j r,
There is a larger point here. We are constantly whipsawed by nanny-staters and junk scientists — paper bags are bad, no plastic bags are bad, sleep your baby on his tummy, no sleep him on his back, biofuels prevent global warming, no they don’t and they also cause food shortages, margarine is better than butter, no butter is better after all, etc etc etc.
It’s all one scare after another, to get everyone used to being told what to do and accepting authority because there’s too much of it to figure out for yourself. In the meantime, real health alarms are not raised when politically inconvenient. I refuse to participate in such nanny-bullying on principle and NEVER do anything simply because someone I don’t know personally tells me I ought to.
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Can you just bring back your plastic bags and re-use them?
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When I’m king there will be a bounty on SWPL pelts
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Related: is there anything more alpha than being a king? I mean… shit.
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poly,
let me give what you said a slight twist. it isn’t so much that the nanny state is focusing on the wrong problems. the problem is that they are having to invent all new ideas in order to fix our problems because they spent the last fifty or sixty years trashing all of our old ideas. ideas which have proven quite correct and quite useful.
see what i’m getting at? we used to have this old-fashioned concept called thrift. it said get the most out of everything you use and try not to create too much waste. i take a bag to the store because i’m thrifty; not because i care about a five cent tax or raising the ire of a bunch of shrill and emasculated yuppies.
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As much as I love reading this blog, please drop this stupid quasi-Nazi/Nietzsche talk – this is precisely what’s the cause behind the decline of the West that Roissy laments.
Sorry guys, but Christianity, which betaized society, is the cornerstone of those great institutions that propelled the West to greatness. The harnessing of human sexuality into productiveness as opposed to mindless fucking is what let us conquer the world. Decoupling the two is what will spell our demise.
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dc
The problem with monarchy has always been that the sons of alphas, while more likely to be alpha themselves, are not guaranteed to be; somewhere along the line a weak leader becomes king and it all goes to hell.
Modern kings, who have no real power, devolve into betas (Prince Charles is the classic case), but the hereditary principle is still strong in countries which are not technically monarchies (N. Korea, Libya, Egypt, Syria). They tend to be rotten countries.
The most absolute ruler in the world is Kim Jong Il and no amount of brutality can disguise his obvious beta/omega nature.
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now THAT’S alpha.
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thanks polymath!
“polymath
GBFM,
I have no idea what your day job is, but you should consider a career in counseling. I picture you in one of those booths like Lucy has in the “Peanuts” comic strip, “Psychiatric Help 5 cents”, and when someone spouts their tedious problems you whack them upside the head with one of your Zen-like lozzl-bombs.”
yes! i will do this. here are some samples:
Q: Why are there no good men left?
A: lzozlzlzl I can’t hear you. Take teh cock out of your ass and mouth and ask again please. lzozllzlllz
Q: How many dates should I wait until a girl puts out.
A: Dates? lzozlzllzzozlzozlzozlzlzozlzlzl OMG lzozlzlzlzlzzlzlzlzllzlzllzzllzlzlzlzlz
Q: Should I go to law school or business shcool?
A: Well does ya want to learn how to anal rape or clean up the anal rape messes?
Q: Do you like the National Review or the Weekly Standard better?
A: lzozlzlzllzzo whicever one happens to be lauding less secrtive tapers of buttsex without the girl’s consent on the newstand lozlzlzlzlzlzlzl
Q: I have a degree is psychology. Will you go out with me?
A: I have open sores on my cock. will you suck it ? lzozllzlzlzlzlzlzlzl OMG tasy tasty taste – eeeeeeeee lozlzlz (just kidding i do not have open sores on my cock as i sandpapered them off lzozlzlzlz smooooooothle loooozllzlze!!)
Q: Why do women like big government and vote for bigger government?
A: lozlzlzlzzll because they don’t mind getting fucked in the ass by douchebags who promise to pay for everything lozlzlzozlzlzlz and then get otehr men to pay for it! lozlzlzlzlzl in fact i think tehy rather enjoy it which is why the female neocons @ the weekly standard lauds secretive tapers of butthex withoutr the girl’s consent zlozlzzlozzllzzozozlzozoz while dutifully repeating tucker max’s lies that he is six foot tall and successful lzozlzlzl instead of interviewing and singing praises to our brave men dying on foreign shores for their bankrupting neocon wars lzozlzlzlz
Q: At what age should i get married?
A: At what age are you planning on dying? lzozlzlzlz sometime after that age. lzozlzlzlzlzlzlzl
Q: Do you believe in love?
A: Yes. Love, like morality and teh family, was a male creation. Dante wrote a poem for Beatrice, Beatrice did not write a poem for dante. When women write about love, like Ayn Rand or the romance novelists authoresses, it always descends to rape scenes, which is a metaphor for women ass-raping men in divorce court lozlzlzlzlzozlzlzlzlzlzl Rape is a female fanatsy and shows up in their romance literature and thus neocon women detest shakespeare and homer as tehr are no rape scenes nor butthex scenes in tehir exalted classical works lzozlzllzozlzlzozlzozzl lzozlzlzlzozlzlzlzl. Women must degrade and debauch everything to gain power which is why the federal reserve funds feminsits studeies classes lzozlzlzozzlzozlzozo to kill teh soul and enslave all good men to massive unprecedented debtitude dude. Tucker Max, who films his sodmozing girls without the girl’s consent, has his next book being published by simon and shcyster lorderd over by a woman, and neonococons love and laud him and give him advertising and repreat his corproate PR fiat bitthex lies in teh sacred pages of tehir magazines, driping with profits form promoting authors penninbg stories of butthex tapings loslozlzlz. ozlzlzozz
Q: Are you voting republican or democrat in teh next election?
A: lzozlzl! that depends on if i want to vote for the people who say they are pro the little guys and anti-war, who bale out the banks and grow the government and expand the wars and welfare state, or if i want to vote for the people who say they are pro war/business and anti-governemnt, who bale out the banks and grow the government and expand the wars and welfare state. lozlzlzlzlzlzlzlzlz lzozzllzlzl!
“Let me issue and control a nation’s money and I care not who writes the laws.” Mayer Amschel Rothschild (1744-1812), founder of the House of Rothschild. lozlzlzozlzlzozlzloz lzozlzlzlzl butthex!!!
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http://henrymakow.com/
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George Carlin had it right. The earth created Man so it could have plastic.
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Eh. This story is lame. Why does Zeets spend time thinking about unimportant things? Zeets sounds like a tool. “I don’t have a bag and I’m proud of it!” Uh. OK dude.
Next.
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Peck: “Why does Zeets spend time thinking about unimportant things?”
Discomfiting dipshits is its own reward.
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Plastic bags are not filling our landfills, disrupting our hormones, or destroying the poor, poor Earth. This reusable bag crap is just another SWPL fad based on junk science and feelings. If this country were masculine instead of feminine, and therefore ruled by logic instead of feelings, stupid fads like this would never even start.
I get so tired of environmentalism from SWPL types who understand neither science nor the environment.
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This was better than the LV headshots? And Jezebel tee’d you up… http://jezebel.com/5526597/ridiculous-men-slam-models-without-makeup
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what a bunch of alphas, talking about grocery shopping
i don’t even know how the food makes it to my fridge, or my plate for that matter
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My wife was pretty pissed when our town fagged out by forcing giant recycle bins on everyone (slightly smaller than our rolling trash can, also on wheels). They haven’t gone all nazi (yet) by forcing us to separate our trash, but it is a matter of principle. I cheered her up by pointing out that by moving the bulky cardboard out of our trash can, we have room to throw more stuff away.
She feels much better now and is trying to devise practical plans to generate more garbage so this extra space doesn’t go to waste. It is more difficult than you would think.
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maybe, but more importantly it just makes sense. i have a backpack. why wouldn’t i use it to carry groceries? why do i need to buy another bag that’s specifically labeled a “grocery bag?”
i understand why zeets and roissy feel the way they do. the status whoring inherent in the SPWL lifestyle is really unearable. these people make a big show of railing against capitalism and commercialism and then spend a hundred bucks on special pants for yoga, you know… cause it’s spritual.
a few months ago i saw a guy out running in old-school sweatpants and a sweatshirt. he looked like rocky running through the streets of philadelphia on his way to punch sides of beef. i couldn’t help but think, ‘there’s a guy i’d like to have a beer with’, no homo.
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Rivelino
The idea that paper or plastic bags are hurting much less destroying the environment is ludicrous. You idiot girly man.
We can dispose of the entire garbage of the US for a decade in square bit of ground that’s not at all impressively large, a writer in of all places the NY Times magazine wrote in the mid 90s in a long and detailed article about the idiocy of the recycling craze.
You lefties that don’t like Rossy talking on political subjects can go such each other’s dicks.
Gender realism tends to breed realism in general as a political philosophy. It’s fundamentally incompatible w/leftist ideology derrived as it is from cultural Marxism and absurd notions of eqalism, with only cultural and environmental differentiation of each individual in any important way w/respect to their mental traits.
Read this comment lefty:
http://roissy.wordpress.com/2010/04/26/behold-diversity/#comment-168264
[editor: to the haters: folks, it’s a friday. we don’t an exegesis on world affairs every day. ]
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This isn’t a fad by SWPL. All these nuisance taxes at the city and state levels are initiated at the behest of government employee unions the members of which are overpaid compared to private sector employees doing equivalent work. The typical m/o of these shysters is to pick out a target class (the obese for instance) and shame them and then tax them (through a soft drink tax). The “moral” reasoning is feminine – “oh, these people are disgusting – they deserve to be taxed.” Get people used to this kind of reasoning and they won’t object when the state starts rounding up their neighbors for some green or liberal reason. Note that private sector wages have been going DOWN since 2004 while government employee wages have been going UP. Since tax revenues are down due to the economic downturn, instead of cutting back on employees and their ridiculous wage and benefit packages the local, city and state governments have been saddling citizens with more of these nuisance taxes.
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There are lots of environmental issues which matter. Clean water and clean air for example.
Reusable bags and recycling isn’t one of them. It’s largely idiotic. Recycling newsprint makes some sense barely. I mean it barely covers it’s transport etc. costs if the home effort of collecting it is ignored. (In reality the home effort is it’s a kind of additional tax.) But most other recyling uses more energy etc. than starting w/raw materials which are not in short supply re: eg producing plastics. As an energy source perhaps which is why we need way more nuclear.
The garbage issue is a non issue. Sure if garbage is placed in idiotic locations it can be bad for ground water. but that’s simple; just choose smart locations for garbage disposal instead of idiotic ones. And also instead of idiotic recycling.
Recycling laws are always passed in a quasi religious way because “we really need to do more for the environment” and almost never on a real recycling energy or anything else cost/benefit analysis.
Leave me out of that religion. I’m not joining it.
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Oh wait, I get it – you’re cool because you needlessly throw shit out and take pride in it? Ohh yeah, so Alpha. Since when is it ‘lefty’ or ‘heeding to propaganda’ to use common sense? How about you try being resourceful and not contribute to more needless garbage? There are continent sized patches of plastic and chemical sludge floating around in the oceans because of all the crap we overconsume. Does that give you a chubby or something?
Kudos to above commenter on needing to ‘reinvent’ things, because we have lost touch with tried, tested & true methods of generations past. That’s where the real knowledge, and Alpha is.
I wish convenient throwaway culture would make same with half of you, to the landfill to get picked away by garbage gulls.
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Esteemed Lollzlzlzlz dude, you have much to say on the neocons. What’s your take on libs/leftists?
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@Eastpole: your statement is a non-sequitur. The reason for these nuisance taxes ISN’T the stated reason – the stated reason is the kool-aid – did you drink the kool-aid? The real reason is that many local, city and state governments are running deficits mainly due to overpaid government employees and they need to raise taxes.
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there is to much craziness here
NewALph says:Sorry guys, but Christianity, which betaized society, is the cornerstone of those great institutions that propelled the West to greatness. The harnessing of human sexuality into productiveness as opposed to mindless fucking is what let us conquer the world. Decoupling the two is what will spell our demise.
Christianity had to be pulled kicking and screaming into modernity by the enlightenment. then once certain scientific facts were beyond repute (earth circles sun) christianty jumped on the bandwagon until evolutionary science threw another monkey wrench into their “great book”.
Also how was sexuality “harnessed into productiveness”. it was banned outside of marriage plain and simple. sex outside marriage is not immorality per se. it is only the lying and the cheating that maybe associated to it that are the immoral aspects.
Doug1 says: We can dispose of the entire garbage of the US for a decade in square bit of ground that’s not at all impressively large, a writer in of all places the NY Times magazine wrote in the mid 90s in a long and detailed article about the idiocy of the recycling craze.
finding space for our garbage is the the real issue raised in the comments above. landfills leach dangerous materials into the surrounding environment and the production of plastics also results in harmful effluent. but hey lets get rid of the EPA and the clean water act because it limits freedom.
Roissy: we need a cleansing war.
only as long as everyone must go fight; no deferments, no gender discrimination.
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@Doug1: Right on, bro! Concur strongly that accepting a reality-based view of something so basic and primordial as gender relations will make any thinking person a hardcore realist about everything else soon enough. Certainly you can’t clearly see things for what they are between men and women and accept Kulturbolschewismus, about anything.
As for what’s alpha, sorry, but military guys (and I am one) are the biggest bunch of betas you’ve ever seen. The officers (again, am one) are just pathetic, 90% of them. They are at the level of SWPLers in gender relations. On nights out, they “go home to mama” faster than accountants. They grumble, but very quietly, and understand who rules the roost.
Remember that our military gets force-fed an astonishing amount of Cultural Marxist propaganda, from gender to race, it’s like a university in that regard — except that dissent is even less accepted in the ranks than at State U.
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@Dave
Alas – I’m not bitching about the ‘taxes’. I’m bitching about the argument against a traditionally common sense behaviour, and the glorification of same as if one is really taking a stand against something. There is some misplaced anger. Wanna pick a fight? Pick a better cause to lead than to brag to the world about ‘double bagging’.
I don’t agree with the ‘bag levy’ because in most instances the grocery chain just nets the extra five cents. It doesn’t even end up in municipal coffers. It’s unfortunate that you need a monetary slap on the wrist for wasteful practices; I advocate a good old fashioned tar and feather instead.
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Yeah fuck the nanny state. When my dog takes a dump on the sidewalk, I don’t pick it up. I just walk on like nothing’s happened. If any SWPLs give me a crazy look I shoot them a menacing stare, grab my dick and say “what the fuck are you looking at bitch?! Keep walking, cause I’ll take a shit on your muthafuckin doorstep!”
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@Eastpole: Your reasoning reflects much of the so-called “moral” reasoning and behavior of the left which is really mostly an exercise in identifying a target class that can be discriminated against (hated) usually through affirmative action or taxation and self-congratulation. Note that using canvas bags to tote home groceries requires an exceedingly small moral exertion so that the vast majority of people can do it and take undue pride in the fact that they were capable of this minimal moral exertion. At the same time, some moral weaklings who are capable of this minimal moral exertion take the next step that is hinted at but never stated explicitly by the state – they turn around and hate other people who think that the moral content of using canvas bags is stupid and meaningless and deflects away from the need of most of us to do a moral housekeeping on really important issues. Really important issues like caring for our spouse and kids, moderating our alcoholism or other addictions, you know, the really tough problems in life that most people like to ignore.
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libs/leftists = neocons lzozlzllzzlzlz
neocons = libs/leftsists lzozllzlzlzl
i wrote about this at my web 2.0 blog:
http://greatbooksformen.wordpress.com/2010/03/12/chapter-9-of-orwells-animal-farm-jonah-goldberg-lzozll/
“Chapter 9 of Orwell’s Animal Farm & Jonah Goldberg lzozll!
“The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.” –Chapter 9 of Orwell’s Animal Farm
lozzllzzl!
“The creatures outside looked from neocon to leftist, and from trotskyite to neocon, and from neocon to bolshevik again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
lzozlzl!
reaidng is soooo mcuh fun that it sux that the bnecons have dumbed down our schools and deconstructed all teh cool boox so taht they can try to pass jonah “i am hackman” goldberg off as a writer. lzozll!
fat chance!
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oink oink
oink oink . lzozlzl!!”
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A couple of months ago, I walked into a corner store in my neighorhood to buy some beer. The front door, which was made of glass, was shattered. The owner told me that some dude who didn’t want to pay the 5 cents had kicked the door.
I, on the other hand, often carry around a reusable bag that fits into my back pocket. My old lady bought it for me at the National Gallery of Art. It is stylish and it carries a heavy load.
Perhaps next time, I should put the beer into my bag and swing it at that glass door on the way out.
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I met a girl at a party last year who started telling me all about the course she was doing on “Sustainability”.
“You know what I think about all that [environmentalism]?” I said
“No,” she replies, waiting for the usual beta suck up.
“Fuck the planet! Burn it all down, screw the polar bears. I really don’t give a fuck.”
Her jaw dropped and she almost fell over backwards. I guess she doesn’t hear that very often. Four hours later I was fucking her.
True story.
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I am generally contrarian about fads. I am fairly frugal and don’t waste things, but this Gaia worship bit is total bullshit.
The plastic bags are recyclable. Every now and then, the wife takes them with her to recycle them.
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Yo Roissy…the problem with these “Zeets posts” are that they just are not believable.
Do you actually expect us to believe that your friend calls you just to chit-chat about his time at the Giant?
If this was set as a convo over beers or something maybe. (Note: beers, not your “favorite” pussy coffee shop…guys don’t go to those together.)
[editor: you write like someone who has no guy friends. of course my buddies call to chit chat about random shit. for instance, in my conversation with zeets we also talked about the two chicks he’s dating and the practicality of having an aircraft fleet in a time of precision guided missiles.
and do you have any grasp of literary license? in a short post designed to convey a simple anecdote i’m not going to fill it out with all the other topics zeets and i discussed over the phone. really, you desperate haters never look worse than when you’re flailing like a blind nerd with parkinsons at a wiffleball on a stick.]
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She respected you because you were smart enough to realize that must of this green bs is make-work (really troublemaking) for the young adults of the elite (particularly females) who like to feel they are “making a difference” on problems of “titanic importance” instead of doing really important things like finding a spouse, raising a family, etc. That is their ego on display.
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I am not identifying a target class to discriminate against. Only ignorance, stupidity and a general lack of accountability for one’s place in the world and how they impact others. This equally applies to the issues you highlight. While vastly different, they often root from the same place.
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More macho bullshit posturing. Plastic bags are a negative externality — i.e., impose unintended social costs — therefore it makes perfect sense for the government to impose a slight tax.
I swear to Allah, Doug1’s tireless rants against “cultural Marxism” have become just as unreadable and deranged as GBFM’s neo-con/fiat-money codswallop; I only prefer the latter because I can skip ahead at the first sight lozzzolzzzol.
The motto is reduce, reuse, recycle — in that order. It takes energy to create plastic bags (and it takes shitloads to recycle). People do not properly dispose of plastics in general, which then float around and become a blight on the city, or worse a choking hazard for animals. Omigod, a concern for non-humans — the unmistakable mark of a beta-omega SWPL-chump – slash- cultural Marxist, leftie-loon. Yeah, yeah, yeah go fuck an autistic infant. There’s nothing wrong with having moral values.
[editor: what about substituting insipid moral values for substantive ones?]
“Zeets” sounds like a fucking loser not because he’s a mindless provocateur but a desperate one.
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A Friday’s always better if it’s… BANK HOLIDAY WEEKEND**!!!
I don’t know about you guys but this idea that everything you do and think has to be oozing with alphaness annoys me to no end.
Since when should the sole purpose of anyone’s life be being attractive to women? Since when should a man be nothing but an object with no thoughts, actions, interests that aren’t compatible with some woman’s/random’s idea of what makes the ideal of masculinity?
**Which you Americanos don’t have, right?
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Liverlips
“Plastics break down, get in our water supply, cause hormonal disruption and mutations.”
When I was in school they told us that the problem with plastics is that they DON’T break down.
Saving the environment is fine and I am all for it. But overpopulation is the biggest threat to nature and the same geeks using reusable bags are the same ones who protest doing anything about immigration (the biggest cause of overpopulation in the U.S.).
you’re an embarrassment to conservatism… the bags break down, the materials they contain do not.. overpopulation is (or isn’t) a global problem, not a local one. The US is not overpopulated.. WTF? Its a huge nation, you have plenty of space.
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Nothing is more beta than thinking you’re being brave by using a plastic bag. Of all the futile stupid gestures in the world, this post probably takes the cake.
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I hate the environment. Fuck the environment. I want to live in a trash heap with putrid pollution. Idiots.
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I kick betas in the balls and make them carry my groceries for me.
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What makes Zeets’ behavior alpha isn’t his complete and utter disregard for the environment – it’s his complete and utter disregard for SWPL smugness. Packing your groceries in a burlap sack does not make you morally superior than someone who uses a cheap plastic bag. For all you know, the person using the cheap plastic bags is using them at home for trash removal (they’re great for bathroom trash containers); by using store bags, they don’t have to purchase thicker and more destructive purpose-made plastic trash bags. Of course, environmental taxes don’t take such behavior into account, which just makes smug-fueled regulation so repugnant to begin with.
Of course, the lack of shame and refusal to cow to the will of the Herb Collective doesn’t hurt.
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Wait, you guys still have a human cashier ring up your groceries? Hellooo, the twenty first century is calling
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Enough of this serious stuff. How do you game these “green” chicks? First, always keep in mind that they are foolish allowing themselves to be enslaved by a fashion craze parading as a real moral movement. This will help you maintain a position of dominance. Instead of thinking how foolish they are – visualize it. Green chick = Orion chick from Star Trek 2009 or the menagerie episode
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm159815936/nm0629697
Then do you play “I’m a green dude too” or do you say “It’s all bs” like Stu? How do you make this determination?
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I have to admit the title made me thought roissy was going to talk about some disturbing sexual practice I’d never heard of.
[editor: heh. that was the intention.]
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I always ask for paper. No, I don’t recycler them either.
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What’s really gay is grocery shopping.
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I don’t recycle anything that isn’t worth my while. For instance, aluminum and plastic bottles. And the only reason I recycle them is cause my teenager actually bags them and turns them in.
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fgf
Yes.
And to be specific about it, overpopulation in the third world. That’s the only place in the world where the population is still rapidly expanding. It’s rapidly expanding against the malthusian limits on population of as he put it “war, famine and disease”.
The developed world has if anything slowly shrinking populations but for immigration permitted there from the third world, like Mexico and Central America.
Everytime we send famine relief, or aids and disease relief to saving people from dying in Africa etc., we’re harming the environment with the consequent population increases in places that haven’t seen economic liftoff.
In large measure places like most of Africa not to mention Haiti are litterly living on developed world aid and welfare and their populations would signicantly shrink from here, and would never have grow so large as they have, without the continuous medical welfare, and in most but not all places episodic food welfare.
The real enviornmental degradations occuring in the world are occuring to accomodate galloping third world populations. The deforestation of the Amazon and the cutting down of Indonesia’s forests, for their too large and getting rapidly larger populations.
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Feels like Southpark Mohammad redux. Immediately follow a post about women secretly wanting to be raped with one about someone using two plastic bags for a gallon of milk; let the ratio of panty wetting in the comments prove how truly muddled thinking has become.
Nicely played Roissy.
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Plastic bags are perfect for reusing as work lunch bags and for taking out crap diapers to whom it applies. Also excellent for smaller trash cans as liners.
By the way, the big and very legit sounding enviro reason for adding the tax on plastic bags in DC was that many individuals toss them into the anacostia river. I’m no SWPL but I’d hang litterbugs if I could.
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These SWPL efforts are all the same: they’re a way for SWPL-folk to feel good about themselves. “My shit doesn’t stink!” they say to themselves. “I recycle plastic bags and drive a Prius! Not like that loser Zeets who double-bags his milk!” It’s just a way for people who can’t think and understand real issues to feel smug.
The point about toxic shit (e.g., mercury) is valid. However, the stuff people make the most noise about isn’t toxic. Aluminum cans? INERT. Glass bottles? INERT. Plastic bags and plastic bottles? INERT. Newspapers? INERT. Recycling all this crap is just wasting human labor that could be spent doing something productive.
Dave, it’s guys like you that give me hope for humanity. We need more people that can see through politically-correct BS and understand the root cause of problems.
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when a hot chcik at the grocery store says “paper or plastic?” i always say well do ya want me to wipe your ass or put a dildo in it?
lzozlzlzlzlzllzlz!!
then i say “just kididingdd lzozlzlzlzl” & i get her # as she laughs hahaah funny just getting my joke as i walk out the door and almost get hit by a hybrid.
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Why did my post get moderated out? I thought it was funny and got this thread back to what it should be partially about – how to game green chicks. And Rachel Nichols looked hot!
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I use grocery bags for trash and when I have enough I bring my cloth bag to the store. It’s larger, keeps my food cold and I get extra points on my card for using it. Helping the environment or not, it does benefit me.
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Im sorry it hasn’t been moderated yet.
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One thing for certain – there’s not a lot of leftie, Green alphas. (Apart from Denis Kucinich).
Also, strange how all the SWPL folks go on about the evils of “the establishment”, cheerfully unaware that they are “the establishment”.
What’s even better than plastic bags is driving a nice, petrol guzzling car – drives the eco-folk nuts.
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Log it.
Mine it.
Pave it.
Sell it back to the Indians.
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Um, no. What you should have been taught is that plastics are not biodegradable. They definitely breakdown…into smaller and smaller pieces of plastic that find their way in the water supply and do damage.
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Dave – never apologize. That’s beta behavior. I should know.
By the way, I’m really sorry about calling you a beta. Will you please forgive me?
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Stu,
Way to break the frame, dude. This is why eeeeevil conservatives can still score liberal chix — the trick is not to be defensive, but project either disagreement with or indifference to her viewpoint in such a strong way that she knows she won’t be able to persuade you to change your mind with her own logical skills. The cognitive dissonance of seeing you unembarrassed not to have the opinion all good people are supposed to have will unsettle her and get her juices flowing.
Warning: lawyer chix react differently, they WILL try to argue you out of it — if you have your facts and logic together and are prepared to explode her pathetic rationalizations, that would be even more of a turn-on for her, but if you can’t be bothered arguing, it’s best to break the frame a different way, with a psych-out such as “I’ll bet you really enjoy controlling people with this alarmist crap.”
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I use this all the time with hipster or environmentalist chicks.
hipster chick: Why do you drive an suv?
me: It’s ok, it runs on biodiesel.
hipster: Really?!
me: No. It actually runs on baby seals and pcbs.
hipster: hehehe
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PA–
Yeah. Down with litterbugs.
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The environment? Fuck the environment. Can you believe that fascist leftist nanny state San Francisco will fine you if you don’t sort seperat recyclables and compost material from the rest of your trash? Who cares if you live in the cleanest big city in America if you can’t pour battery acid and motor oil down the drain.
I say fuck the leftist nanny state. I burn my trash in the front yard. If a neighbor complains about the toxic smoke, I walk up, backhand them across the face, grab my dick and say “HBD bitch! The weak get asthma and die, the strong survive! This is my property and my air. I’ll do whatever the fuck I damn well please with it!”
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GBFM,
That paper or plastic response is genius. Sounds like the kind of instant destroyer you’d expect from a top standup comic or a Tourette’s syndrome patient.
Whatever your dosage is, you’ve got it right.
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Most people will do reasonable things to preserve the environment. But as soon as the state tacks a nickel charge for plastic you know right then that it isn’t about the environment – its about taxes. The state could have enacted a law that handled plastic bags without a tax. At the same time, the state is also killing two birds with one stone – the state and msm have been corrupting the youth with what for generations was considered bad behavior if not perversion. The state and msm are smart though – they know man is moral animal – so they substitute some made-up phony fake morality that allows people to believe they are moral. Note that the “immoral” under the new morality (e.g. males) generally coincide with a class that the state wants to screw.
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I have a friend who works at the county dump. He says ALL the trash AND recycling gets thown in there.
I ain’t gonna feel guilt about paper OR plastic.
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This town needs an enema!
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exactly. you don’t need new-age mother earth bullshit and PC leftism to have a clean environment and less waste. cleanliness and thrift are admirable characteristics. end of story.
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BTW, how would you guys rate Rachel Nichols?
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Double bagging is in use!
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=double%20bag
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On second thoughts, I’m probably the only one who did not know that.
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I get girls to bring over my groceries.
And cook.
And clean.
– MPM
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All I hear is rich people, corporations and their whore governments telling me how to live, and by sheer happenstance increasing their wealth and power at the same time. Again.
Fuck the environment.
I am here to make mine and get some, and if that means everyone dies including me then tough shit.
Most people, and in particular most Americans, are too weak to face their mortality, but the bottom line is that we’re dying since the day we’re born. So if you want to do as your told and be a good little boy for your masters while they make you dance like a little marionette before you rot in the ground, then that’s your problem.
I’m going to use my time having fun and taking care of business. So if something or someone gets in the way then I will take whatever actions necessary to protect my real interests.
And if we all do die out because of too many shopping bags, then maybe the next form of life will evolve a more advantageous method of adapting to the necessities of survival. But all I know is that I am not going to be lectured and shamed by the likes of those who run our world.
td;dr:The environment doesn’t pay my bills so fuck it and the powers who are trying to make me care.
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PA’s comment is the only sensible one here. Hang litterers and re-use your plastic bags.
And don’t buy the cloth ones.
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Canada – that’s where they have speech crimes, right?
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Rachel Nichols the reporter is a 7.5, Rachel Nichols the actress is a solid 9, 9.5 on a good day.
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Lawyer chick question –
I have a flirty relationship with a 25 year old lawyer chick. She is probably an 8 to most men. And to her credit, she is a lot of fun and not the typical lawyer chick feminist. However, she always selects classic or lower betas as her boyfriends. I don’t get it. I’ve never tried to make a play on her myself, but this girl could easily land a lessor or classic alpha and appears to have no interest in doing so. I know enough about her to know that its largely a control issue – she likes to have guys that she can dominate, cheat on, do whatever she wants. But at the same time, she appears to legitimately be close with these guys. And no, they most certainly do not have game to make up for their beta-ness. They are clearly betas, and she prefers them. Any ideas? I think it has to be some crazy by-product of her being a lawyer chick.
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I agree with that = I think she’s the kind that looks better sweaty with some color in her face then all dolled up – see above.
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Sidewinder,
She’s probably having an affair with a married alpha who can’t commit to her or an unmarried super-alpha who won’t. So she needs a beta for the rest of the stuff a man can give her, like escorts and foot rubs.
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lzozlzl
once upon a time paper or plastic didn’t really matter lozzllz
back then, the fact that your future wife might be getting banged in the ass or in the gina by multiple partners did matter and was frowned upon. lzozzllzlzlz
but now bernanke wants us to worry about paper/plastic/paper/plastic/paper/plastic/paper/plastic/paper/plastic (SHUTTUP!!!!) while the young chix–yoru future wives–are getting cocked, banged, splooged on and desouled by teh tucker maxes that the fiat masters fund through tehir women-run publsihing houses and teh neocons promote and repeat teh secretive taper of butthex lies in teh pages of the weekly standard. lzozlzlzlzlzlz.
there is one solution for this:
http://greatbooksformen.wordpress.com/2010/03/10/bring-back-prima-noctes-braveheart-grant-them-prima-noctes-first-night-when-any-common-girl-inhabiting-their-lands-is-married-our-nobles-shall-have-sexual-rights-to-her-on-the-night-of-her-wedd/
Bring Back Prima Noctes! Braveheart: “Grant them prima noctes. First night, when any common girl inhabiting their lands is married, our nobles shall have sexual rights to her on the night of her wedding.” lolzlz!
“Longshanks: Nobles. Nobles are the key to the door of Scotland. Grant our nobles lands in the north. Give their nobles estates here in England, and make them too greedy to oppose us.
Advisor: But sire, our nobles will be reluctant to uproot. New lands mean new taxes, and they are already taxed for the war in France.
Longshanks: Are they? Are they? The trouble with Scotland is that it’s full of Scots. Perhaps the time has come to reinstitute an old custom. Grant them prima noctes. First night, when any common girl inhabiting their lands is married, our nobles shall have sexual rights to her on the night of her wedding. If we can’t get them out, we breed them out. That should fetch just the kind of lords we want to Scotland, taxes or no taxes.
Advisor: A most excellent idea, sire.
Longshanks: Is it? “
–From Braveheart
I wish they would bring Prima Noctes back!!
Imagine just one other man having rights to your wife, for one night, before you got her.
That would rock!!
Today the master fiat class gives the first rights of your wife to an endless array of douchetards, starting in elementary school, commanding her to see lying, peacocking, manipulative, girly beta males as alphas, while seeing manly alphas as betas; as her mother exiled her true father long ago, under command of the fiat masters.
From an early age they teach her that her ginatingles rule the world, not Jesus, nor Thor, nor Zeus, nor Moses. When she gets knocked up, they reward her with fiat dollars which Ben Benanke hand delivers in his helicopter.
Today, when she kisses those kids and sends them off to school, she leaves traces of dozens of other men on their cheeks.
Make no mistake–she is working for the Fed, and if you question any of this she will take your children away and the feminist police will search your home to determine how many assets of yours she will get. For again, all the Fed can do is create debt, and to convert this debt into physical wealth, they need men, like you, to work and labor for it. lozlzlzl!
You know you tasted it when you kissed her a couple times on those early dates–that salty prima nocta form those who violated her orfices a few minutes before. And now she pwns u, the kids, and the home! And you have to pay 4 ur own cuckolding!!
lozlzl!
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@Master Beta: “Apologizing” – you’re applying rules as if this is a co-ed situation – those rules only apply where women are present to observe. Then appearance of weakness should be avoided, or used to your advantage if you have a wingman. When men self-select along a common interest there’s nothing wrong with common politeness coupled with sarcasm and comments about bodily functions.
They’ve done studies with young boys – You take them out of a co-ed environment and eliminate sexual competition and the more competent boys will help the less competent – kinda like this blog.
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Too many betas pretending to be alphas, trying to impress us with their tough guy demeanor and disregard for the world. Don’t get angry at nature. Nature has created beautiful girls, the better for us to enjoy banging them.
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Serfs, prisoners, and beggars gather up trash in the hope of finding some use in it. Free men have better use for their time than washing and sorting garbage.
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Polymath’s theory is a possibility, but she had every opportunity to remain on the alpha market after she broke it off with beta #1, but within 6 months was with beta #2 (and even had IOI’s from a lessor alpha that she didn’t pursue). The girl bears a striking resemblance to a young Uma Thurman, and she is very friendly. Alphas immediately show interest in her. Her big downside on the dating market however is that she has no interest or plans to have children, and like most 8’s, she’s pretty superficial and high maintenance. My hypothesis is similar to Polymath’s guess: she may realize that she’s not marriage material for an alpha, so with a beta she gets to call all the shots, no pressure to start a family or do anythign she doesn’t want to do, and she’s essentially free to pursue alphas on the sly to advance her career where necessary.
While it makes sense, I still don’t get it. Her priorities and desires seem to fly in the face of the typical nature of women. But 98% of lawyer chicks are seriously messed up, so that wouldn’t surprise me.
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sidewinder–
Yeah I understand exactly. the ideal form of her beta would be a guy who earns as strongly or stronger than her but is a committed feminist and is turned on by women who take charge.
See this:
http://roissy.wordpress.com/2010/04/29/play-rape/#comment-168697
I predicted this will become more common in gen Y’s. You’re supplying anecdotal evidence.
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Sidewinder
My comment to you is being held in moderation it seems.
Search for “cuckold” in the immediately previous Roissy thread.
I predicted that would become more common in gen Ys and you’ve provided anecdotal evidence.
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Sidewinder–
Look for her to convert “on the sly” over time to finding a guy, or converting one, such that she can do it w/his knowledge and acceptance.
That is an alien concept for most girls. But if she were introduced to the concept and reality in some betas of willing cuckoldry … I bet she’d go looking/converting.
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sidewinder lzozlzlzlzlzlzlzlzlz
she’s still banging alphas.
why only get pumped and dumped by alphas when you can get pumped & dumped by alphas AND have betas pay for your meals and talk 2 you like a gay friend?
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her hornier days will be saved for teh alphas lzozlzlzllz
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There is nothing wrong with reusing a box that had 12 fifths of Johny Walker Black in it the first time. It holds several econo/bulk packs of condoms plus a Road Warrior DVD and shot gun shells.
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Doug1,
You would expect her to go after a big beta-provider. But the guys she picks are barely employed. I’m not sure if they have college degrees. They are pretty redneck, but shorter than her, quiet…obviously less dominant than she is. It appears to me that she wants to be the breadwinner, head of household, no children, free to have affairs on the side. She essentially wants to be the traditional ‘man’ of the relationship. Like other lawyer chicks, she probably has an enlarged clitoris. Maybe lawyer chicks are just unnatural, suffering from various degrees of gender dysphoria? You take away her looks, and she’s pretty straight up masculine now that I think about it.
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lozlzlzlzlzlzl
i’ll give anyone $10 if you guess
1) what i do for a living lzozlzlzl
2) where i live lzozllzl
3) how old i am lzozlzlzl
4) what schools i attended lzozlzlzl
5) what degrees i have lzozlzlzlzl
if you guess i’ll five i will hook u up with a betty as i can tell you this much: i’m a part time pimp lzozllzz
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It’s amazing, out of all the stuff going on in the world, people focus on plastic vs. cloth bags.
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@Sidewinder
Some women like betas a lot, just not for sex when they are at there most fertile. The beta has to have some good qualities but again, they are still desired for some purposes. Its even good for alphas to be beta at the right times. The problem is the average gen-Y over does this by large margins. I seemed to notice women liked it a lot if I ignored them or was kind of a jerk and then treated them nicely every now and then. When a prince steps off his pedestal its charming.
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@Sidewinder, GBFM, maybe she has a thing for going at male submissives with a, you know, “belt” with a “protuberance”
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Sidewinder–
As was thinking as I was writing that, that I should have made clear that would be more what she’d want in a husband rather than guys to just serve as her bf for a time.
High earning beta types (6’s) can be found who will still let her boss them around and determine where then money from both salaries will go. Particularly if she really is an 8.
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i know tons of girls dating betas who are always coming on to me
teh sluts piss me off
one is married and she told me that if i found a dominant woman she sould let me watch them have sex
and she has kids
with a beta…. supposedly… lozlzlzl but as telemachus said in homer’s odyssey 2800 years ago, “it’s a wise man who knows his own fathe.” lzozllzlz z zlzolzlzz
omg that is why the neocn jonah goldbergs/charlotte allens never talk about homer but instead talk about butthexers and promote butthex lies while jefferson himself sid that at the end only virgil andhomer are left and perhpas homer alone lzozlzllzlzlzl
did ben bernanke ever read homer? i doubt it! lzozllzllzl
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Bhetti
Well, I suppose you’ve also got your wine and song, but what good are they without your women?
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@xsplat: good one and apropos for a Friday spring afternoon
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Bhetti–
I completely agree.
For one thing attracting women just isn’t that hard.
hell most of the stuff I write here probably turns a lot more women off than on. I don’t give that a second thought.
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women love love lobve betas!!!
taht is why they vote for bigger government.
to tax the betas.
lzozllzz lzlzlzlzl
in many ways the federal reserve system is a pimp which whores women out and teaches tham to transfer wealth from men to the pimp dadyy central bankers lzozlzlzl
one of the advanatages teh central banking cartel has over standard prositution is that in standard prostiutution the pimp is unable to cllect monies after the perfmances have been completed and paid for
in teh case of divorce, which 2/3 of women initaite lzolzllzl, men have to keep paying the prostitutes for past use of their pussy and it’s a lot more than the $1,000 a high-class hooker would demand! it is tens of thousands of dollars and the mac daddy pimps ben bernanke and nteh necocons get a giant cut of procedes from teh divorce regime. lzozlzlzl
see, a fiat currency is inherently worthless, but if tehy fund feminist studies classes and train women to transfer phsycial property from men to them for past use of their pussy then lzozllzz they can grow rich while persecuting men lzozlzlzlzlzlz
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ditto rivelino – save the planet, go jump in the potomac
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Lena
Boy, do you ever have that backwards. Technology will be the death of us. We could have lasted for millions of years more, if we’d just stuck to wine women and song.
All this progress will surely kill us. We’re doomed because we’re not fucked enough.
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Zeets is right. So is Roissy. And this is a test of my new “gravatar” thingy.
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It makes absolute sense to have an aircraft fleet in a time of ‘precision guided missles’. If you are talking about LGBs, or JDAMS, you still need an airplane to drop them. Ground/sea launched cruise missles like tomahawks are much more expensive on a per-shot basis, and are much easier to shoot down on their way to the target than an aircraft. Plus, they can’t retask enroute, and can’t be used for close air support. Additionally, they aren’t that fast, so they won’t be getting anywhere in a hurry, and aren’t stealthy, so the baddies know an alpha-strike of cruise missles is coming unless SEAD aircraft have knocked out their early warning radars and SAM radars.
As someone who has both flown tactical jets AND worked on SAMs, I can tell you that 9 times out of 10, the aircraft will escape from the SAM. If you are interested I can get real into the weeds about why that is, but if not, just take it at face value.
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Ok, since it’s slow around here, I’m gonna attempt a thread hijacking and republish something I posted elsewhere a day or two ago.
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I want you all to consider this as a thought experiment.
That is work out what would happen if…..
1) Mandatory child support is abolished for unwed mothers, an women who don’t otherwise have an agreement in writing from a man to help support the kids that man would have a) not “oopsed and hated, accidentally on purpose, and b) aborted or given up for adoption if he had had that option. This is done for women not yet pregnant effective immediately, and for women preggers or now receiving child support on a five year phase out basis, one fifth less CS this year than the prior existing law, and so on to zero.
2) Welfare is similarly abolished on a five year phase out basis. Babies will be taken from mothers who can’t or won’t find work and child care w/help and farmed out to whatever is best, however substandard. Yes this is punitive to welfare sluts/failures/retards by intention. So they and their replacements coming in won’t have babies. Get your tubes tied girl.
3) In divorce for any reason children by default go to their father’s custody. Pre negotiations that is. The intention is to do away w/child support for these divorcing women as well. However in a more nuanced way. Some/many men won’t want to care for infants or young children as that’s naturally women’s work. They will want ample visitation, most of them. A negotiation will ensue. Men who REALLY don’t want child care responsibilities will have to pay more to induce canny ex wives to take the kids.
Meanwhile if a man takes custody but is a truly neglectful parent after the kinds of warnings currently given to women before custody is taken from them and given to the fathers, in the end the mother gets custody and dad in this limited number of cases has to pay the current child support =also alimony we have now. Men esp. more successful ones or those that have found a new woman, often will want custody of older children, and older kids will usually be better off with their fathers as well.
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I don’t want to hear anyone tell me how this can never be made to happen. I want to hear what you all think will be the social result in 10 years if this was made the law. If you give your thoughts on that, then sure, give your thoughts on anything else you want, such as how this can’t be made the law while women have the vote.
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omg i look like adam smith!! but that’s all i’m sayin’
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[editor: for the record, i use a reusable bag. i just hate how the swpls have elevated enviro-nuttiness to a transcendental morality in their never-ending quest to score the lamest status points over the wrong kind of white people.]
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@ Doug1: Are any states trying to enact a real palimony law, where alimony is payable even if there isn’t a marriage, and if they do enact a law, how short a time period will be specified when rights accrue?
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@Doug1: the libs are trying to encourage even more bastardy. Phylis Schlafly had an op-ed about it the other day. Does “work” include pole dancing?
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Dave–
no statutes I’m aware of but California followed by NJ have a court created limited patrimony right based on a claimed oral promise to provide her support after the relationship ended. Other places want that to be in writing.
Search for palimony on this thread for more from me down in the comments, on when it may be assessed and what to do to avoid that:
http://www.the-spearhead.com/2010/04/18/prenup-discussion/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheSpearhead+%28The+Spearhead%29&utm_content=Google+Reader
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This is what I hear in my head whenever GBFM starts lozlzlzling
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The double standard is:
1) Women want the right to equal pay, but:
1a) Women prefer to marry up, making equality of mating impossible – women can only date more competent and driven men. With real equality of wage for competency and drive, men overal lose out by only being able to date incompetent wives. Given that hypergamy is fixed in human nature, the only equitable system is if men on average earn more.
2) Women want to able to fuck around at will but:
2b) Expect some reconpemse for their pussy, while STILL demanding equal pay. If you get paid in tips for sex, that counts on your balance sheet, sister. If men pay for dates, women need to get paid less, in an equitable society.
3) Married minded women are pissed at the sluts who give it away for free but:
3b) They refuse the traditional marriage responsibilities that come with relying on a mans income, such as tending to home and making nourishing delicious food and regular sex and allowing the man discreet dalliances as they age out of passionate bonding.
4) Women expect the man to be at least equally responsible for any babies but:
4b) Only they can decide to abort or use abortifactants or be careful about birth control.
And so, in answer to your question, Doug, if laws were passed that made children a financial burden and responsibility to women who chose to keep them, women would be much more careful to have kids only with mates who also WANT kids. That is not currently the case at all. Many men are saddled with kids they really don’t want, and many more men who would like kids can’t attract a mate of similar competence and looks, and when they do, the relationships are stressed out by hypergamous desires unrestrainedly fulfilled.
Marriages would be stronger, the dumb would pump out less kids, and those that wanted to enjoy the libertine lifestyle would be less likely to be dragged into unwanted parenthood.
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A witch:
don’t know about you guys but this idea that everything you do and think has to be oozing with alphaness annoys me to no end.
Why dost thou blaspheme?
Since when should the sole purpose of anyone’s life be being attractive to women? Since when should a man be nothing but an object with no thoughts, actions, interests that aren’t compatible with some woman’s/random’s idea of what makes the ideal of masculinity?
BURN HER!!!!!!!!
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Long comment in mod, reply to Doug, plus extra observations about social sexual imbalances.
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i luv you guys
thanx 2 roissy for beain teh beacon
finally i have met 3-4 people and maybe more who aren’t
1) pussy whipped betas
2) catsrated betas
3) beta eunichs
4) neocons shouting for perpetual war and smaller government as they grow the state oink oink lzozlzlzlzl
5) men fianncing and publishing neocon women to promote and propoaget butthex buthhex secrtive tapinsg of butthex without the hirl’s consent lzozzllzzl
6) dickless white knights
7) white nights in shining armor with no balls
8) uppity government growing douchetards
8) fanboys playing with tehir cocks and joysticks playstations in tehir single moms basements lzozllzlz
9) bitchy womnz correcting my grammar while they give snoop dogg and fiitty a free pass in dishin the bitches and bangin teh hoes and sploogin on the big buttoxxes
10) forum fanboyuz promoting southpark butthex and then compalining if i s ay teh word fuck fuck fuck you like a man lzozlzlzllzl
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luv y’alallssl
sure we have some fanboyz here but see thi forum is lead by a real man maybe the last one left in dc lzozllz
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@Doug1: I hope your head doesn’t explode if you read that Schlafly piece.
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Me way ahead of you guys.
No matter what kind of bag, paying for food and carrying it home is so beta. So I prowl the aisles in the store, eating what I want off the shelf (even raw meat), and beat up anyone trying to stop me. If I’m hungry when the store is closed, I break in. That was my first stage. Now I make women buy my food and bring it home and cook it for me.
Then I realized it’s so beta to wipe my ass after I shit.
That habit is what feminized SOCIETY has brainwashed us to do. Eventually I realized how beta it is to use a toilet at all. Now I crap or piss wherever I am when I get the impulse. Sometimes even in my pants. Hygiene is so beta.
Then I realized ‘What kind of wimp needs to live indoors?’
Having a roof over your head is so beta. Now I live outside, roaming, prowling, like the gloriously wild untamed beast that I am. Me so alpha. Owwwooooooo!!
[editor: always two there are. a master and an apprentice.
next step: masturbating on trains during rush hour.]
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xsplat—
Yeah. That’s a pretty sellable result, isn’t it?
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when they’re not promoting storytellers profiting form secretive tapings of butthex without the girl’s consent the neocons are training young women with thse videos lozlzlzlz
they forgot to reference russel kirk !!!
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The system won’t change until enough high-status women throw off the current fashion – libertine femininity – and put on the new fashion – whatever it is. I’m sure you guys already know that women reduce all male-created items like morality into fashion statements. That’s their way of feminizing them and rendering them harmless and even ridiculous. Just look at how they dress – they carry around coach handbags that are really just 18th century cartridge bags, hussar jackets, stripper boots modeled after cavalry boots, and our modern equivalent camouflage everything (including bikinis)!
http://www.ohcheri.com/am291-camouflage-bikini-with-tie-sides-p-3868.html
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From the bikini ad: “Feel strong yet cute in this crazy combo”. Do you, as a man, ever combine these words in like manner to describe something you do, or how you feel when you wear something? Nah, I didn’t think so!
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Yes, even camouflage . . . LINGERIE!
http://sexymart.com/fsy9176.html
Now that is the ultimate oxymoron: camouflage lingerie
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On bags:
Trees are the ultimate RENEWABLE resource. You can plant two hundred trees for every one you cut down to make bags out of.
Paper is more ecological than plastic for this reason. We grow crops every year (hell, every growing season). We can harvest new trees every couple of dozen years or so the same way by merely replanting a few for every one we cut down.
The re-usable bags thingy is “showy” enviornmentalism, not really useful, just a status-enhancing act. If they really “meant it”, they should carry double-thick-GLAD-garbage bags to the grocery and use over and over again, with no insignias on them. If the grocery store “meant it”, they’d give you 1% off your purchases instead of using a “fee” to drive up profits on those who dont.
Building 50 new nuclear plants would be environmentally useful, but greenies are against that. Go figure.
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Been tempted to pick up some reusable bags myself, not because they are good for the environment but because it will allow me to be able to carry all of my paper plates and plastic cups to my house without having to make two trips.
Now I just need to find some that don’t look gay. Dude had some cool black ones at the store the other day. The green ones look queer, IMO.
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xsplat:
Analogy. I can dress sexy by copying a J-Lo outfit or I can dress sexy with my own style. Former is not me, latter is me. I’m still attractive either way.
That is the point I am trying to make.
Doug:
Whoa. Don’t say that to the guys in this venue! I can feel the ill will being directed your way from here.
Think what you mean is that it’s not as hard as having to change who you fundamentally are.
Isn’t the not caring what women think a basic quality of being attractive?
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Fascinating discussion, but speaking of DC, listen up:
If anybody here is based in DC and is a beginning-to-intermediate student of the game, e-mail me. I’m interested in forming a small group of guys to share pointers, to encourage each other to do sets, etc. I’m also very interested in day game so definitely get in touch if that’s your thing.
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Whoops – seems like you can’t include an e-mail link in your name. Well, post in this thread and we’ll figure it out.
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Bhetti
Yeah. True enough smarty pants.
That did occur to me as I was writing it. But then so did that I’d already been more than arrogant enough, as you so helpfully point out. 😉
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Without those plastic grocery bags, my dog would only get to do her business in the planters, on the lawn, or by the front steps of the only neighbor that everyone on the row hates. Not much of a walk nor good exercise (unless we’re practicing a bit with the arsenal of evasive maneuvers that are key to not being the ones caught in the act.) They also provide a nice way to keep the hands clean when dropping the “packages” next to the neighbor’s trash bins (shouldn’t have been so bitchy about those trash bins being only for *their* trash.)
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@stu
“You know what I think about all that [environmentalism]?” I said
“No,” she replies, waiting for the usual beta suck up.
“Fuck the planet! Burn it all down, screw the polar bears. I really don’t give a fuck.”
Then there is the old dialog:
Female: “What do you do for a hobby/spring-break/whatever?”
Male: “I go clubbing”
Female: “Discos?”
Male: “No. Baby seals.”
Some other random thoughts:
The enviroshit being imposed, especially sorting garbage:
It is NOT about the environment.
It is NOT EVEN about raising taxes, although that
is a minor benefit.
It IS about obedience training.
You train the sheepies to do unpleasant things.
Most of them – if they think at all – will on some
level realize the futulity of it all. To resolve the
cognitive dissonance, they will rationalize that
it makes sense. They are now primed for further
and much larger impositions.
Seriously.
Baaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
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Doug: I’d be arrogant if I had two young for me love interests, one young and one “way too young” (as you repeatedly and helpfully point out to me, just in case I manage to forget), had a hot bod, have an IQ of bazillion and sixty, extremely knowledge, are ridiculously extroverted, doing well in life…
… what else?
I’d be totally insufferable. I commend your restraint.
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Reusable grocery tote bags are about a half-step on the estrogen scale from those front-facing baby-carrying harnesses made for betadads.
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” Dave
The system won’t change until enough high-status women throw off the current fashion – libertine femininity – and put on the new fashion – whatever it is. ”
Such cultural shifts have happened before. Between Regency and Victorian England (say 1810-1830), British ladies changed from being some of the loosest in Europe to some of the most virtuous.
The hypergamy game isn’t good for women, and hopefully more of them will realise that following your instincts is not always a good idea.
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Let’s see… at minimum wage rates, a whole half dozen bags are worth about two minutes of ones time.
That’s what I call a Big Spender — if you’re unemployed.
Yea, that’s really gonna cause the high waterfall in the women in line behind you. “Wet cleanup at Register #2…”
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More loaded questions, please. Any serious discussion what revolve around what constitutes a “substantive” moral value.
The problem with these threads is that commenters concern themselves with motives rather than empirical arguments. I don’t give a shit if some SWPL-beta scum is using a PBS tote bag for status-signaling or driving an energy efficient vehicle to advertise how much better he is than the rest of us. At least there’s a legitimate social function; “Zeets'” behavior has what end in mind? To give everyone else in line douche chills?
And what else do you get them to do? C’mon, you’re only limited by your imagination.
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I’m slowly gaining more respect for zeets with each post about him. Except with this one. Respect level has at least doubled.
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z:
“showy” environmentalism. Yes. Modern day Pharisees.
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Was the first comment on this really, “Killing the environment is so beta?”
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Have balls, shop at WalMart, get plastic– f*ck it! (Anything else is Beta… like paying 5 cents for bags that’ve already wasted oil to make even if you don’t buy ’em to make whiny liberals feel special.)
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They still have Giant stores in DC? Is there still an International Safeway? They had the most amazing candy selection when I was a kid *sigh*, nostalgia.
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What’s so wrong with *paper* sacks that used to be the standard? Want biodegradable? There’s your freakin’ biodegradable!
Plus they were way more useful for reuse purposes than plastic.
No grocery stores even ask anymore (around here). I don’t even think they are offered as an option anymore.
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You know, in most places overseas you are expected to bring your own bag to begin with. Bring your own or buy a reusable one. All these DC schmucks make such a big deal out of nothing, as if bringing a bag to a store is some kind of MIND WAR on the people judging by some of the comment here.
I have a couple pretty decent plain cloth bags that I use for my groceries and it’s a lot more convenient than all the plastic bags that rip so easily. Everything that gets labeled as “hipster” is usually stuff from my own culture that I’m already accustomed to, so it kind of irks me that there’s such a fuss over all of it.
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Oh, also I forgot to add that this post really reminds me of the scene in American psycho where the main character is obsessing over business cards!
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“Have balls, shop at WalMart, get plastic– f*ck it!”
What the hell is “WalMart”?
– MPM
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From a girl’s perspective, cool looking handbags are always desirable. The trouble is to remember bringing them along when they are needed. This is really more of a matter of aesthetics than that of politics. It is sad that guyz feel like they have to follow suit. Politics is in the flux; and so is fashion. Bags fall into the overlap of the Venn diagram.
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Pupu watches “Good Will Hunting” for the math scenes. Dirty little thing.
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This is what happens in degenerate gynocratic and extremely Judaized nations — they turn in to sociocultural cesspools.
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**Which you Americanos don’t have, right?
Which we just call a “holiday”…who the fuck cares if the bank is having it?
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GBFM:
“a funny thing about environmentalist chicks is that they always cared about all the wetlands except for those between [their] legs.”
Truer words never spoken.
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Roissy. I scrolled through a bunch of shit to laugh at this story. best post ever!
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Let this thread be exhibit Z in the damage that government schooling can do to the country, especially when the far-left anti-human achievement crowd are in control of the curriculum. Men crying about the Earth being destroyed because of humans and their plastic bags.
Grab your cock and be a man. The Earth will be here long after you are gone, and the most damaging thing that is done to you is the 40+% of your labor value taken from you by government and doled out to their special interests. Stay focused on the real enemy, do not be brought into Gaia worship at the expense of progress and human flourishing.
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The white-knighting impulse expained, and encouraged, in this video:
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Anyway, that video… is that a G Manifesto-Hugo Chavez showdown, or what?
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@Sidewinder
“…this girl could easily land a lessor or classic alpha and appears to have no interest in doing so.”
I would like to hear more discussion about the fact that whereas women are obviously more TURNED ON by Roissyan Alphas, they often actually marry and breed with way-low Betas. In fact, since this is so clearly the case, would there not be a way to mimic Betaness in such a way as to get laid at least a few times?
In any case, Sidewinder, this blog has featured a number of hilarious photographs of the most abject, feminized, pussy-whipped imaginable girly-men who are married and pushing the baby carriage round. I myself was lucky enough to take such a photograph, but it was long after the blog had lost interest in the subject so it was never ‘featured.’ Check it out: you may see a very pretty girl (she has her back turned in the pic but I observed this couple from all round for several minutes) who has deliberately chosen as her baby’s father a man who if anything is less masculine than herself:
http://ostronova.wordpress.com/2010/04/14/some-women-go-abroad-to-look-for-husbands-too/
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Thanks in part to the wisdom of George Carlin, I long ago stopped giving a fuck about plastics in the environment, species going extinct, global warming, etc.:
(Perhaps someone could repost this link as embedded youtube thing)
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Paper, plastic or reusable?
Let me reframe the question. Which one can help you women?
Answer: The reusable one. Make it an item of interest. Someone figure out how to use it as a prop.
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How beta must you be to settle for a cougar… your own grandmother?
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20100430/tod-granny-72-having-a-baby-with-her-gra-870a197.html
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@ Rivelino
Don’t dis Roissy… everything on this blog is related to game if you can catch on. Appreciate it.
Secondly, when I read the title of this post I thought it would be about ghonorea infested strippers or something. ie girls who you know must have some kind of disease but you fuck them anyways. ie better double bag this one. ie she’s a double bagger/pump-and-dumper.
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I’m glad I don’t live in DC or anyplace like it. I’ve never seen a “reusable tote bag”, whatever that is. But then I don’t live in a place that has hipsters, yuppies, swpl’s, etc. And I like it that way.
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Critical viewing for anyone thinking of marriage.
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The Darwinian-Nietzschean struggle for existence means eat or be eaten, kill or be killed, harm or be harmed. I wish simply to neither dominate nor be dominated. But that is far too much to ask in this world on both counts.
I have no harmed anyone, except maybe my parents. My dad says I should be “altrusitic” and recover for my mom’s sake.
First off my parents committed a massive injustice on me by bringing me into this cruel world just to satisfy that monster gene- Moloch.
Second them keeping me alive, is just their genes following their selfish interest to reproduce. I represent a major investment in their genes survival. My fall means a major decrease in their genese reproducing. So that is all there is to their so-called generosity to me. The longer they keep me fed, the longer the opportunity there is for me to pass their genes on. Granted thats a pretty miniscule chance for grandkids hiding and crying in the basement, but its higher than the chances if I starved on the street.
So what gratitude should I have to the selfish gene? The “altruism” in feeding and housing me is just the flip side of the selfishness of birthing me into an incredibly hellish universe.
Humanity wants to drive itself off a cliff. I listed my objections. Much wiser men than me have listed them in thick textbooks. Humanity wont listen to the wise men and certainly not to me. So fine. I have said my peace. Let humanity drive off the cliff, but I want no part in the adventure.
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***RANT ALERT!***
Anthropogenic global warming is a crock of shit, you will not ‘save the planet’ by cutting down use of plastic bags, ride a bike instead of driving, going vegetarian or switching off lights for one hour on an idiotically mandated ‘Earth Day’.
Al Gore had been lying his ass off, I’m shocked that people still believe his tall tales.
Carbon is a pollutant? Very well then, kill yourselves so that Mother Gaia may be cleansed and appeased. Religious fundamentalists willingly become martyrs because they truly believe what they believe. How about you global warming environmentalists? Are you hypocrites about your faith?
And the only awareness environmentalists will achieve with such green delusions is the awareness of their own stupidity and conceit.
P.S: George Carlin was spot on.
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What do you make of this?
http://www.walkamileinhershoes.org/
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@dc
Related: is there anything more alpha than being a king? I mean… shit.
Yes, remaining king.
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I live in Germany. It is the law to recylce here. Germans wash all plastic containers before throwing them away, to prevent disease and to make the yellow recycling bags more pleasant to throw away. Recycling and sorting garbage make trash generally more pleasant to deal with. You have to wash out all those yoghurt containers and milk cartons, soup cans etc. They sort paper, plastic and metal packaging, biodegradable waste, and then the remainder is what you actually pay to have removed, which is then charged to your account. The other stuff costs nothign to remove, as it it is not destined for a landfill. Its a great system and people feel really good about doing it and they control the land used for landfills and the pollutants they produce from leaching into the groundwater. Its a SWPL wet dream.
Then they take all this carefully recycled trash and burn it. Every bit of it, in energy producing trash burning facilities. Even those yoghurt containers and milk cartons you so dutifully washed out. The average German has no idea actually happens. They just sort their trash and congratulate themselves for being green. Burning trash, BTW, can be environmentally safe, and produces quite a bit of electricity.
The way they save on plastic bags is to charge you for them at the store here. Its the store that makes the money. The consumers are conditioned here to accept it. So people save money by using baskets and hemp bags, etc. I use the plastic bags for all the stuff mentioned above. I reuse them too, because eventually you just get a mountain of useless bags laying around.
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@Dave
Most people will do reasonable things to preserve the environment. But as soon as the state tacks a nickel charge for plastic you know right then that it isn’t about the environment – its about taxes. The state could have enacted a law that handled plastic bags without a tax. At the same time, the state is also killing two birds with one stone – the state and msm have been corrupting the youth with what for generations was considered bad behavior if not perversion. The state and msm are smart though – they know man is moral animal – so they substitute some made-up phony fake morality that allows people to believe they are moral. Note that the “immoral” under the new morality (e.g. males) generally coincide with a class that the state wants to screw.
This is how religion has been used to control people for millenia. Now we use a religious form of pseudo positivism.
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GBFM:
I’ll take a stab at it. I think you’re a minister, an evangelical protestant one to be exact. I think you’re in your late 40s too. You live in the Southeast, and you have a master’s in divinity. I will guess that you went to the Southern Theological Seminary.
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The polar ice caps are melting, dude, at a rate that equals the output of carbon dioxide. You can’t go skiing in Switzerland anymore. Make the connection. Draw the conclusion.
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@someguy
“What do you make of this?
http://www.walkamileinhershoes.org/”
Disturbing on so many levels. They won’t make it 200m never mind a mile.
Women’s shoes should be for women only, it destroys the point if the guy is also in heels.
Chic Noir would be the person to comment on this, though – doesn’t she teach walking in high heels professionally?
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Doug had it right earlier, and I posted something along the same lines in some thread from last year: that kind of environmentalism is like a neo-animist Gaea worship. And little bullshit actions like using a hemp tote bag over plastic are little indulgences or prayers in that church, to salve the soul of the SWPL sinning against mother earth. Once you look at it that way all the other details are not only unimportant, they are pervrese (i.e., carbon caps, mandatory recycling, etc.) it’s about a quasi-religious emotional state for the ruling classes, not any facts. (See: Bjorn Lomborg.)
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@Tyrone: A warning to all you gamers out there the following is a response to Tyrone and deals with religion – if you have no use for religion don’t read it.
“That’s how religion has been used to control people for a millenia”. That’s just a talking point/canard, to get someone trying to defend religion off on the wrong foot. Most would agree that some system has to be adopted – a system that teaches people about the nature of existence, their role in the world, what it means to live a good life. Let’s step aside from the “dogma” of Christianity (e.g., God is triune; in one of his persons he entered time; he was conceived by a virgin; etc.) and examine what the moral theology of Christianity has to say about the reality of man’s nature – e.g., that man is sinful. As G.K. Chesterton said, the reality of sin is one thing that need not be proved – its reality is visible for everyone to see. To give an example from classical literature – the story in Brothers Karamazov of the mother and father who locked a daughter in an outhouse and forced her to eat excrement that so shocked Ivan that he questioned how a just God could let something like that happen. The proper lesson was not God’s indifference but just how wicked supposedly perfectable man can be. I think Christianity is more truthful about man’s real nature than anything the moderns have to say. And don’t claim that there is any systematic moral content in the “reform” atheistic moderns have substituted for Christianity. It is just a retreat to barbarism and war of all against all parading as a morality.
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omg you fuckity fucktards.
it’s friggin staurday so take the day off of beind stooopid for a change
the beauty of religion is that ity acknwoeldges that there are entities, ideals, laws, and cool things greater than us worth aspiring too lzozlzllzlzlzlzlzlz
the probloem with neocon asshhatters like ayn rand is that she says man is god and thus her lietrature sucked as she was unable to write tragedies such as the gospels (ends in tragdy resurrection) socrates apology (ends in tragedy/resurrection) and hamlet (ends in tragedy/resurrection) lzozzllzlzlz.
now all you fanboy fuckity fucktards are incapable of the aupreme glory of athens (homer/socrates) and jeruslkame (moses/jesus). odysseus followed a hero’s oddyssey for ideals greater than himself. socrates followed an internal hero’s journey for ideals greater than himself. moses followed a hero’s journey and returned with the ten commandments and was a warriro and lead his people on a physical journey based on freedom–an ideal greater than himself. and jesus lived and dided for ideals greater than himslef. lzozlzlzllzll and then charlotte allen and ayn rand comes along and erases all teh glory by glorifying stories of rape, atheisim, and tucker max’s lies and secretive tapings of butthex withut the girl’s consent which is why the fiat masters who hate judeo christianity fund feminist stsudies lzozlzlzozlzlzozlzlzlzlzlzlzlz and pay them to pen articles repreating the fiat masters coprorate pr lies that tucker max is six foot talll.
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now that bring sus to the glory and sublimity of hamlet whence athens (honnor by revenge and killing) and jeruasalem (honor by forgiveness) clashed in his soul. hamlet beocmes depressed. like socrates he is unable to find true virtue, like jesus he forgives the murderous uncle. like moses he passes judhment on the primal eldest curese of jeolousy and murder and like odysseus he too is called to liberate his own home from tyeh false suitors. lzozlzlzl
now all this glory is right at your fingertips and we oculd talk about that and all, but everywhere i turn it is jonah goldberg warmongering and butthex butthex anal rape ayn rand is god lzozlzozlzlozozlzozzlzlzozlo secretive tapings of butthex without the girl;s consent and tucker max is six foot tall as teh fiat masters must debauch both teh culture and the currency lsolz0ozlzozlzlzzlozlz lzozlzlzzl omgh lzozlzlzllzlzlzlzl zzozlzlzozoz and their women advocate that every girl ought lust after undead vampire monsters who wear makeup as the entire world befomces ruled by gina tingles and ghina tingles dictate that obama is a good president and gina tingles dictate that fiat cash is good as it places good men–the common worker–in massive debt lzozlzlzozlzozlzozlzozlzlzozozozozloz.
omg so take a day off of being stoopid and stop and think and that fiat kool-aid don’t you drink as the turds in it begin to stink lozlzlzlzlzz
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in Europe you have to pay for bags, but who cares? Some people buy them, some don’t. It isn’t connected to your manhood. You people need to chill the f out.
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@Doug
no disagreement with anything you wrote above there. However, don’t think for a minute that church decrees or doctrines were always altruistic. History if full of examples, especially the Catholic church, but also any society in the world at any time. Religion is an excellent tool to get society to self regulate, especially if its illiterate and supersticious and lacks a mechanistic view of the world. Now we use fashionable ideas labeled as proven best practices and enforce them with the moral authority and credibility of science. It’s merely a religion that appeals to positivists.
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@ Tyrone
The population of Germany is far denser than in the US.
Also, land generally is more expensive. That’s one reason you recycle more.
The other reason is your Green party.
(Remember the green tree has red roots. Meaning – “green” policies everywhere often are nothing more than disguised socialist wealth redistrubution schemes.)
The US has plenty of open space for landfills & junkyards. Transporting waste has gotten expensive. Oil was $20 per barrel 15 years ago; now it’s $86. This is why you see products with less packaging, (concentrated laundry detergent for example) which equates to lower shipping costs on the front-end and lower shipping & disposal costs on the back-end.
In suburban areas of the US, driving big trucks around to gather cans & bottles rarely make economic sense. But suburbs are filled with SWPL demographic, so that’s why we have government recycling programs.
Believe it or not, WalMart is a leader here. For them, it’s about money, not about being earth friendly.
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@Tyrone: Christianity in general and the Catholic Church in particular teach that all are sinners – every one. If you are Catholic and accept this you are dismayed but not shocked when Catholic clergy act in a less-than Christ-like manner. After all, the clergy are sinners too. The fact that the church has its occasional scandals and has officials who act in a worldly, self-serving manner is confirmation of its teachings, not refutation. If you think man is perfectible through his own exertions Christianity or the Catholic Church are not for you. Alternatively, if you believe that man is a hopeless wretch in need of divine intervention than perhaps you should consider Christianity.
Regarding church scandals these are not new. One need only read the New Testament to learn of how Christ’s early followers, abandoned him, betrayed him, or defrauded his church.
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Feminism: A false religion where merely by the fact of their respective sexes all women are designated as saints and 95% of men are designated as reprobate sinners condemned to hell during life. The other 5% of men – designated as alpha males – serve as sexual messiahs who through their narcissistic indifference to female demands heighten female orgasms – the only sacrament of feminism. Feminism requires no real moral exertions on the part of women other then to believe in its tenets and to perfect their status as saints (1) by having sex with alpha males and (2) by achieving heaven on earth. Women achieve heaven on earth either by having babies out of wedlock with alpha males and allowing themselves to be supported by the state or by condemning their non-alpha husbands to hell by divorcing them and receiving the fruit of their husbands labors without recompense while living in the houses their husbands bought for them. Men condemned to hell suffer a Sysyphean existence where those who suffer least never marry but have 40% of their wealth confiscated to support unwed mothers who would never have sex with them and those who suffer most are those who did marry and who have to support both the unwed mothers and their ex-wives.
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all rleigions begin with teh importance of the indidviaul being moral
all religions end as country clubs which let you in if you have enough money
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I actually think this is an awesome post. I think I do because I always get charged as a result of always forgetting to have one with me. Even the self check-outs get you with that bitchy little voice it has.
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In Victorian London there was a class of poor people so abject they picked through the filthy muck of the Thames at low tide looking for useful bits of trash to take away.
Our Gaia-worshipping overlords want all of us to return to a state of poverty and misery.
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update:
all rleigions begin with teh importance of the indidviaul being moral. the moral individaul is generally stoned to death or crucified by the secretive tapers of butthex without the girl’s consent who are lauded and promoted in the pages of the weekly standard lzozllzlzlz
all religions end as country clubs which let you in if you have enough money, setting up vast, centralized institutions to transfer money from men to women who got pregnant via divine immmaculation/immaculate conception lzozlzlzlzlzlz (as if!) as it is all for teh children, which is why said institutions also molset little boys tying it all back to the neocon promoters and fianciers of stories of secretive tapings of butthex without the girl’s consent lzozllzzllz
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i was in DC yesterday and caught the surprise five cent fee at the CVS self-check out. i was prompted at the touch screen to select the number of bags i was using.
my host let me know that if you press “0”, you get a five cent credit to your purchase – a ten cent swing!
anyway, i made sure to throw my bag onto the street when i went outside. i hope it blows into the river.
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Paying extra for a plastic bag has always been one of my pet hates.
The worst thing about it is that it purports to be for the environment, yet many stores that do this will let customer drive there in dioxin-spewing automobiles for free, and take up space in a paved parking lot for free!
I think the person who walks or bicycles to the store, but needs a bag to carry his stuff home in, is much more environmentally sound.
Next time you’re in a place like this, agree that 5¢ for a bag is fine as long as they give you a $1.00 discount for not coming there in a car.
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Gbfm,
your whole act is pretty impressive, but the constant repetition of “but hex without the girls consent” just brings it all crashing down
in one line, you go from thought-provoking (despite itself) commentary to being the autistic kid who can’t shut up at the dinner table about his pet topic that no one else cares about.
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China has already banned plastic bags. Is that country alpha or beta?
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“Avinguda Diagonal
Gbfm,
your whole act is pretty impressive, but the constant repetition of “but hex without the girls consent” just brings it all crashing down
in one line, you go from thought-provoking (despite itself) commentary to being the autistic kid who can’t shut up at the dinner table about his pet topic that no one else cares about.”
hey asswipe
i wish i didn’t have to talk about buuthex when talking about conservatism. lolllololllllzzzzlolozlollzz
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Cannon’s Cannon:
Aren’t you just the king of fucking cool?
Kyo:
This is why we have a gas tax. The only problem with the gas tax, as economists have been saying for years, is that it’s not high enough. The fiat-class neo-cons Charles Krathammer, Charlotte Allen et al. agree for geo-political reasons (pertaining to the Middle East as well as spreading the lie that Tucker Max is six feet tall).
A gas tax eases congestion and incentivizes purchasing smaller vehicles, which reduces pollution and fatalities. The Roi-polloi’s opposition to sensible economics perplexes me. Conservatives have historically been the ones who favored user-fees: If you pollute the air, clog the roads or landfills, then you’re obligated to pay your own way.
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They are passing out reusable bags for free in DC. Americans have been so “environmentally unconscious” that every tiny little “environmentally friendly” thing that is introduced comes with so much pain to them. While other nations have been trying to be more careful towards the nature for ages.
And, of course, women love betas. Most women are married / in relationships with betas. The best option is a good looking upper beta who is good bf and potential father material. Those that are described as “ālphas” here really aren’t relationship material.
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I feel nothing for disgust for humanity. But thats what the Darwinian struggle for existence. Brutality is the only virtue. I’m what the Nazis would call life unworthy of life. Even if your content to be a lifelong virgin girls rewarding “bad boy” traits still affects the world you live in. I could not be more repulsed by humanity which is why I have cut myself off in complete isolation for nearly a year now. Would life be better, and free of despair if I saw other humans as unthinking moving objects instead of minds ?
From studying evopsych I have grown deeply disturbed and hateful of humanity. A bunch of sadistic beasts, red in tooth and claw, angling for domination. I wish to never see another human being ever again. I’ve cut myself off for over a year hiding in the basement till my parents throw me out.
Maybe it be better if I was unaware of humans possessing other minds. If I viewed them as rocks, chairs, hurricanes, viruses. Then I would have no more hate towards victimizers and sympathy towards victims than I hate cancer or a hurricane. Or pity for a dead tree. Just look at humans as moving objects on the landscape.
Would that make things better?
Well in essence this IS about relationships. That is where evolutionary psychology is most obvious in daily life. While it is true I have no human relations, I’m still affected by the sexual stock market, the same way someone who owns no stock can be ruined by a crash.
Psychologists are humans like the rest of us, driven by the reptilian urges for sex and power and domination. There career choice is just there way of gaining domination in the Darwinian game. So I don’t see therapists as some elite priestly caste free from evopsych. I don’t want to be “fixed” into better being able to play the evolutionary game.
Since everyone here accepts the basic premises of evopsych, I ask how do YOU folks deal with it? Or do you all just accept the game, and try to be the winner? IF thats the case, then maybe your right and there can not be any dialogue between me and humanity.
I don’t understand how the rest of humanity can endure such a world and assume its because they must ALL be blood-thirsty vampires themselves.
Although why glorify women as the victims? According to evopsych even when given freedom they will reward cruelty.
So there are no victims in this monstrous world just wolves eating wolves.
How do you endure this world? And what is your advice for me?
What good would having a girlfriend do me? Is the chimpanzee in me supposed to rejoice that as low as I may be in the hierarchy, I still have someone below me who I can hurt, torment, dominate and abuse?
I have no problem being driven out of the sexual marketplace. The problem is what “service” are we competing for? And it seems in the sexual market it is who can be the most brutal and cruel. Evopsych says getting a girlfriend comes down to demonstrating cruelty, domination, brutality, and sadism.
That is all I see in male-female relations and PUa science backs up my personal observations.
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@Philosopher
I agree with you. But you must have missed the part where I said they burn every bit of it, including all the meticulously recycled renewables. Why recycle if you’re going to burn anyway?
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Skadi
They are passing out reusable bags for free in DC. Americans have been so “environmentally unconscious” that every tiny little “environmentally friendly” thing that is introduced comes with so much pain to them. While other nations have been trying to be more careful towards the nature for ages.
And, of course, women love betas. Most women are married / in relationships with betas. The best option is a good looking upper beta who is good bf and potential father material. Those that are described as “ālphas” here really aren’t relationship material.
Skadi:
this is utter hogwash and European self congratulatory anti-Americanism. On average, America’s environment is far cleaner than Europe’s and our environmental laws were implemented well before Europe’s were. We just don’t have as much consicous SWPL hand wringing over it as is common in Europe, where environmentalism as defacto religion is popular among Northern Europeans. We had catalytic converters a full 13 years ahead of Germany and 15 to 20 ahead of Europe. On average our environmental laws are more stringent that Europe’s not less so. I can eat fish out of the Potomac, I’m reluctant to eat them out of the Rhine. The Potomac, used to be a polluted river, not so anymore. Air on average is much cleaner in the US than in Europe as well. We are over run with wild animals now that fewer people hunt and they have grown accustomed to humans.
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This is some idiotic bullshit. I wonder if the dude above is as broken up about the effects of mercury-containing CFL bulb disposal (that our caring nanny state is mandating) as plastic shopping bags, which are perfectly usable as refuse bags for the home.
Really, people, stuff it with the SWPL guilt. These stupid, guilt-driven fucking fads turn into stupid federal government mandates which misallocate resources and impose opportunity costs onto the economy.
Feed the Leviathan, you millenial morons, see what it gets you in the end.
“As much as I love reading this blog, please drop this stupid quasi-Nazi/Nietzsche talk – this is precisely what’s the cause behind the decline of the West that Roissy laments.”
No, I don’t think I will, but thanks for the advice. Nietzsche’s argument was that Christianity had retarded GREATER PROGRESS by destroying Rome (where the scientific method was about to bloom) and delayed the Renaissance by a good millenium. Read the actual text. Don’t give Christianity a pass just because eventually it took the stick out of its ass.
This is what happens when anti-life (not in the banal anti-abortion sense) values are embraced. We have that happening today with cultural Marxism, but let’s not pretend it has replaced something sacrosanct.
“Sorry guys, but Christianity, which betaized society, is the cornerstone of those great institutions that propelled the West to greatness. The harnessing of human sexuality into productiveness as opposed to mindless fucking is what let us conquer the world. Decoupling the two is what will spell our demise.”
Sorry guy, but it doesn’t require Christianity to “betaize” society, nor does the presence of married “betas” guarantee a Renaissance civilization (see a good chunk of China’s history as reference.) It is assembling pieces of a puzzle of which married betas are only one piece (which there is more than one way to obtain.)
You can’t go back anyway. How do you Rechristianize society in the day of fucking Internet porn, nanotechnology and Twitter when it was already “dead” in Nietzsche’s age? It was a joke then, it’s a guffaw now — the Church of Cultural Marxism, aping environmentalist and other P.C. pieties desperately attempting to stay relevant.
If it was dead then, it’s a zombie now, and the smell isn’t getting better.
You don’t need Christianity to get the “beta” piece. You need to destroy Cultural Marxism and let nature take its course. Scarcity is part of nature; feminism is built on the subsidized, artificially-propped up illusion of ABSENCE OF SCARCITY.
To put it in economic terms, feminism is a bubble that needs to burst.
Nietzsche matters today precisely because “reevalution of all values” is the only way forward, beyond Christianity and Cultural Marxism.
Nietzsche wasn’t about “mindless fucking”; he would have regarded today’s culture as unbelievably decadent. He was about authenticity of values, something that is absurdly absent today, because, AGAIN, we live in a bubble of cultural illusion (false beliefs of race and gender equality, false beliefs of competence of government to do much of anything, false beliefs that environmentalism is our path to spiritual redemption.)
I say the hell with it. Let the New Atheists finish off Christianity; let the rest of the West adopt a standalone variant of Islam (not that sandmonkey Wahhabist bullshit — I’m thinking of a modern, science-friendly analogue of when they kicked Christian ass all the way to Vienna), destroy the Cultural Marxists and start anew.
Anyone got better ideas? I’ll gladly listen, but I bet you don’t.
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Mopey:
What good would having a girlfriend do me? Is the chimpanzee in me supposed to rejoice that as low as I may be in the hierarchy, I still have someone below me who I can hurt, torment, dominate and abuse?
Just because there’s a fly in the ointment doesn’t mean it won’t soothe your wounds.
I have no problem being driven out of the sexual marketplace. The problem is what “service” are we competing for? And it seems in the sexual market it is who can be the most brutal and cruel. Evopsych says getting a girlfriend comes down to demonstrating cruelty, domination, brutality, and sadism.
You need to ingratiate yourself with a new social circle.
Either that, or get over yourself already.
How do you endure this world? And what is your advice for me?
http://www.amazon.com/Psychopaths-Bible-Extreme-Individual/dp/1935150324/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1272776185&sr=1-1
You can thank me later.
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“This country needs a good, cleansing total war.”
It has certainly come to that.
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Reusable plastic bags can give so much satisfaction feeling on a crap day… feeling special and unique, oh my, i’m so somebody,,
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This is off topic but I gotta get it out there. Women are such sluts Roissy. How do you deal with it?
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@ the Real Vince
“Reduce, Reuse, Recycle” is the Holy Trinity of the pathetic neo-animist religion that the weak minded (liberals) use to fill the void in their lives that has been left by their rejection of traditional religions. I am not advocating traditional religions – I’m an atheist – but I’m not willing to accept the adoption of a new religion into public life just because it calls itself scientific.
Considered how Environmentalism is shockingly analogous to Medieval Catholicism.
Reduce, Reuse, Recycle – Father, Son, Holy Ghost
Carbon credits – indulgences
Scientists (whose work is not understood by the masses) – Priests (whose Latin Bible can’t be read by the illiterate masses)
Think globally, act locally – your good deeds will get you into heaven.
Climate Change legislation – Cathedrals built for the glory of God
Climate Change legislation economic burden – Cathedral construction economic burden
I like to tell people who are concerned about global warming to pray – it will have the same impact as anything else and no economic cost.
What really feeds the self righteousness of the environmentalist is his reliance on science that he doesn’t understand. Just like the illiterate serf relying on the Priest to tell him what the Bible says. Also analogous is that written testimony (Testament) was considered scientific fact at one time. (Read Samuel Johnson’s discussions of the New World for insight into the 18th Century view of testimony).
As far a bags go, what is the problem? Littering? That’s a social problem symptomatic of the underclass that has nothing to do with bags. Waste of resources? Convenience is not a waste. Lack of funding to address the external costs of the bags? (including littering by the underclass). I’m open to the idea of externalized costs, but the idea that the District is going to use those funds to address them (if they exist other than aesthetically) is laughable.
The bag tax is a sucker tax. It’s like a tax on downloads that would be used to make puppies smile. What SWPL could object?
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GP: Let’s compare the art created by western europeans when Christianity was the dominant paradigm with the current art (I’m not even going to provide examples of the current art):
http://www.habeeb.com/sistine.chapel.vatican.html
What’s missing? One possible explanation – we’ve been bad, bad children and the Almighty is punishing us by withholding geniuses like Michealangelo, Mozart and Bach until we start behaving again.
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If only some more NAMs could play bach.
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That said dave a lot of great artists and musicians has been rabid queers, not very christian
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the 80s/90s wasn’t all bad was it dave?
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Bach was prodigiously heterosexual in a manner most modern men outside the hood find incomprehensible – he fathered twenty children with two wives.
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“Sustainability” and environmentalism is just another economic construct to get people to spend money on things they may or may not need. Who cares if it costs more to recycle than it does to produce more? The sustainability industry is giving lots of people jobs, giving corporates another thing to spend money on etc. Railing against the sustainability industry is like railing against ipods. We don’t NEED either, but we’re going to spend money on them regardless.
Of course, the problem that the sustainability industry has over ipods is that no state will legislate the requirement to own an ipod. So go ahead and be pissed off at government enforcement of sustainability practices, but stop arguing over the environmental issues because the discussion is not about the environment, it’s about state interference, if anything.
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@Dave,
I haven’t said the Catholic Church prevented all accomplishment in Medieval Europe. And in polite company I would ignore your statement about the Almighty punishing us like bad children because I’m only anti-religion when it comes to enviro-liberalism. But see how this is the comments section of a blog let me say that anthropomorphizing your hopes and fears (and apparently unresolved father issues) into an omnipotent being is beta.
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One more Catholicism-enviroliberalism analogy.
Transubstantiation-imbuement of personhood
Transubstantiation is where the wafer and wine become the body and blood of Jesus. The imbuement of personhood is a belief that when the mother makes the decision to have the baby, the baby’s DNA magically becomes unique and separate from the mothers DNA. Until that time the baby’s DNA is the same as the mother’s. That’s how liberals can believe the baby is part of the mother and therefore her choice to terminate is like removing an appendix.
Having unique DNA would mean that the baby is an individual and have the same rights as every other individual.
Much like a condemned man escaping death row because of the uniqueness of his DNA, a baby having unique DNA would be able to escape the womb, protected by his civil rights.
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Tyrone, I agree with you in principle, but population density plays a HUGE role. Consider this. Germany is marginally smaller than MONTANA. Yet she has approx 1/7 the population of the US.
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@GP: I feel mildly insulted. A quote from “The Revolt of the Elites” by Christopher Lasch:
“Edwards (Jonathan) view of God bears no resemblance to the benign father figure conjured up by childlike human beings, according to Freud, out of their unconscious need for dependence. Edwards’s God is ‘absolutely perfect, and infinitely wise, and the fountain of all wisdom,’ and it is therefore ‘meet . . . that he should make himself his end, and that he should make nothing but his own wisdom his rule in pursuing that end, without asking leave or counsel of any.’ Freud . . . assumes that religion answers to the need for dependence, whereas Edwards speaks directly to those who proudly deny any such need – indeed, who find it galling to be reminded of their dependence on a power beyond their own control or at least beyond the control of humanity in general. Such people find it difficult to acknowledge the justice and goodness of this higher power when the world is so obviously full of evil. They find if difficult to reconcile their expectations of worldly success and happiness, so often undone by events, with the idea of a just, loving, and all-powerful creator. Unable to conceive of a God who does not regard human happiness as the be-all and end-all of creation, they cannot accept the central paradox of religious faith: that the secret of happiness lies in renouncing the right to be happy.”
“What makes the modern temper modern, then, is not that we have lost our childish sense of dependence but that the normal rebellion against dependence is more pervasive than it used to be. This rebellion is not new, as Flannery O’Connor reminds us that ‘there are long periods in the lives of all of us . . . when the truth as revealed by faith is hideous, emotionally disturbing, downright repulsive. Witness the dark night of the soul in individual saints.’ If the whole world now seems to be going through a dark night of the soul, it is because the normal rebellion against dependence appears to be sanctioned by our scientific control over nature, the same progress of science that has allegedly destroyed religious superstition.”
Lasch wrote these words when he was dying from a terminal disease.
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from thelp999
I was flipping thru channels last night and saw those serfish whores on desperate housewives. the kid was bringing in cloth bags from a grocery store marked green/enviro. it was such a happy scene. made me sick. ABC f-ckers
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I litter all the time. I’m pro litter. Each and every day, I toss massive amounts of garbage out my car window. I don’t give a fuck.
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@Realist:
That said dave a lot of great artists and musicians has been rabid queers, not very christian
The majority and the greatest have all been heterosexual. The gay lobby has a habit of labeling everybody without 20 children a homosexual, like they do with Da Vinci and Michelangelo. I can think of only a very few, truly queer painters and sculptors. The same is true of classical composers. Fags tend to go for the performing arts more, due to their feminine need for attention. It is also a modern phenomenon more than anything else.
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So your definition of masculinity is using a plastic bag?
Fuck me, but that’s pathetic. If you can tear yourself away from the quest for PUSSY for ten fucking minutes, maybe you can watch this 10 minute short about the plastic gyre in the pacific, the size of Texas:
Yeah yeah yeah, I’m a beta/herb/econazi.
Fuck you….seriously – FUCK YOU.
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@dermotmoconnor
You’d get farther in opening people eyes to your legitimate point of view if you didn’t spew such bile along with it.
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Would it be faggy to recycle a Walmart plastic bag, or a wholesome fuckyou to the hipster douchetard community?
(like I should talk, I cup up plastic 6-pack holders, but at least I don’t do it in public..)
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This ain’t a story about friggin’ bags.
It’s an example of standing out in the crowd by knowing what you want, when you want it, how you want it, not being cowered into following the group.
And yeah, I love the use of the word want instead of need.
Great story!
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