There is an easy way to assess the strength of your relationship without ever having to turn to that favorite solution of charlatans couples therapists everywhere. Who needs communication when you can gauge how strongly your partner feels about you by how often she spontaneously touches you?
In the interest of lowering the divorce rate, increasing the love rate, and decreasing the time wasted on a cocktease (or, in the case of you ladies, a ringtease), I’ve devised a simple system for analyzing the depth of your lover’s love for you.
The Spontaneous Touch Initiation Ratio (STIR) rests on a simple premise:
In every healthy, successful relationship, the woman will initiate non-sexual spontaneous touching at least twice as often as the man.
This non-sexual touching can take many forms. For example:
A light graze of fingertips across your back as she walks behind you at a restaurant to take her seat.
A tousle of your hair.
A hand on your thigh at the movies.
Arms wrapped around your neck while you and her are walking down the sidewalk.
Kiss on the cheek for no apparent reason.
A brush of “lint” off your shoulders or hair.
Any unnecessary grooming.
Grabbing your hand first to hold it as you walk.
Hand resting on the small of your back.
As you can see, there are many ways to intimately bond without inserting penis into vagina. Of course, holding hands *while* inserting penis into vagina is best of all, but unfortunately we don’t yet live in a society that tolerates genital couplings in public. Damn kids always spoiling a good time.
Since you want your woman to touch you at least twice as often as you spontaneously touch her, a male-female STIR that is equal to or less than 0.5 should be your goal. Here’s a handy chart that illustrates the different STIR ratios and what they mean for the health of the relationship.
STIR Odds She Is Cheating On You Time Remaining Until Breakup
0.3 – 0.5 10% Four years
0.01 – 0.3 1% The time of your choosing
<0.01 Odds you’re cheating on her: 100% The time she tolerates your polygyny
0.5 – 1.0 20% Two years
1.0 – 2.0 40% Six months
2.0 – 3.0 60% Three months
3.0 – 10.0 90% (100% she’s thinking about it) Two weeks
>10.0 100%. With three other dudes. Didn’t you get the memo?
Why is 0.5 or lower the golden STIR number? Because in my experience, the typical woman in love (or in lust) will spontaneously touch you twice as often as you touch her. Exceptions exist, but they are unimportant in the scheme of things. The lower the ratio, the more she likes you (or the less you like her, same difference). The higher the ratio, the more likely you are impersonating this guy.
Do you really want to be that guy, the peabody puffboy who finds himself triangulated to the wrong end of a cuckolding? I didn’t think so.
Be cognizant of how often you touch your girlfriend or wife, and vice versa. If your STIR starts inching above 0.5, you need to amp up your game to bring it back down to an acceptable level. If your STIR is already above 1.0, you should move your assets overseas if you are married, and if you’re unmarried, you need to mentally prepare for an incoming dumping. There’s no better fun than anticipating a dumping from your girlfriend and turning the tables on her before she has had a chance to achieve cloooosure.

Rings true.
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omg this is sooo true
let them touch touch touch touch and then whip iot out and they’ll be longing for it
lzozlzlllz
i sit there hour after hour after hour playing god of war and she comes in sighs makes hissy fit toussels hair lzozlzlzlz lies on couch lays head on me touches my thigh watches the screen asks questions sighs and leaves
and i do nothin’s
so she takes off
then my other fiend comes over and makes me some nachos and rbings them down and she sits next to me and cuddles but i kinda shrug her off and say “damn girl gotta kill this boss!” and i mash my buttons as beranke wants me 2. lzozllzllzlzlz
then the first one comes back and finmds the second one there and i put teh controller down and say “ok now let’s party. i wants u 2 take her bra and panties off and eat her a=out from behind lzozlzlllzlz and she does it ok and then i finallys tarts getting excited and i say come here baby and you too–you come here also lzozlzllz”
so roissy is right again!!
let them touch u and do not touch back and let it build up like water against a damn and then BOOM you gets a threesome from playing playstatin while all the betas are buying drinks in shiny shirts for todays cumbucket whores at bars lzozlllllzl
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Not sure I agree with this. I grab my wife a lot and she loooooves it. She probably touches me as often as I touch her, but certainly not twice as often.
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Your STIR may be accurate for low levels of touching — if I don’t give her much kino I get more back, but she’s happier if she gets more.
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She should be doing more subtle kino initiation.
You need to do it not as often, but bigger and more noticeable.
No ‘touch’ is accidental to a woman.
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“Polymath
Not sure I agree with this. I grab my wife a lot and she loooooves it. She probably touches me as often as I touch her, but certainly not twice as often.”
lozlzlzlzlzlzlzlzlzlzozlzl!!! “my wife.” lzozlzlzozlzozzlozlzlzozlzlzlzllzozlzl
u r so funny yah sometimes i play house too but we pretend we are mormons lzozlzllzllzlz
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The general point seems valid.
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Polymath
If Roissy is correct, doesn’t that mean that she’s touching someone else twice as much as she’s touching you?
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Good post. My STIR is probably .2, perhaps even lower. My old lady is a very expressive and loving South American who is constantly kissing and fondling me, and cooing sweet nothings (the cultural part), but I also play aloof and bothered by her attentions, and reciprocate only on occasion (the game part).
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The equation is missing one component.
See this post: http://roissy.wordpress.com/2009/11/16/discovering-a-girls-soul-with-one-simple-question/
For ‘spanish’ girls add a ‘x2’ (i.e. the overall touch ratio should be 4x) – they are touchy-feely by nature – if they are not touching you they are touching someone else…
For ‘Antartica’ girls divide by 2x (i.e., the overall touch ratio can be 1x) – they are just less inclined to touch others. A good double check here is to note is how much they touch/hug their girlfriends/family – if low you are ok – if high then you need the 2x ratio.
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omg rock u are a math whiz!!!
spanish girls ad a x2!!! thanx dfor that!!
i programmed it in my iphone app!!
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yeah, we girls are touchy feely creatures. it is a sign that we are in our element when we are touchy feely.
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Hughman,
Don’t tell me how often I need to do it. Since I started asserting my caveman rights to grab her whenever I want, I have been getting lots more sex….but I can see Roissy’s 0.5 recommendation being a good guideline if you want your woman to bond more securely than she already has.
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i used to wake my gf up by smacking her in the face multiple times w/semi-hard morning dong. for future reference, when computing the STIR should I use the sum of each slap, or count the morning slapping as a single event?
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You know, maybe I don’t actually disagree with Roissy here. He was careful to specify “non-sexual spontaneous touching” and so my caveman moves probably don’t contribute to the numerator in his formula.
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Apropos of nothing specific, merely the general, eh, thrust of this blog:
http://abstrusegoose.com/50
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Laughs at the odds you are cheating on her. So true.
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does spontaneously smacking her on the ass count in this ratio?
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There is somewhat conflicting advice elsewhere…
Anyone heard of Alex Allman? In one of his e-books on sexuality he writes:
(excuse the formatting)
“Women love to be touched. It is a powerful reward to them.
And withholding your touch is probably the worst thing you could
do for your relationship.
Many men have a problem with touching too often. Sure,
they’ll touch when it’s time for sex…
But when a woman feels like the only time you are touching
her is when you want to get laid, she will begin to feel cheap and
unloved. She will feel nervous and begin to reject you more.
Touch her throughout the day whenever you can.
Stroke her hair, give her arm a squeeze, pat her on the ass…
and give her hugs as often as you possibly can. Kiss her ear, bite
the back of her neck, run you hands over her legs, and if nobody is
around, look into her eyes and give softly stroke her breasts.
Strong, full-body hugs, showing off a bit of masculine
strength while wrapping her up in your arms will make her feel
protected and happy… if you hold the hug for more than 20
seconds or so, some studies say that it will cause her body to
release the hormone oxytocin, which will make her feel powerfully
bonded feelings towards you.
And smile at her. Smiles are both contagious and sexy when
it comes to all day foreplay.
Here’s my personal guarantee:
If you touch her twice as much as you do now, she will reject
you half as often.”
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@polymath
I wasn’t talking to you. Jeeze. General statement.
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Does this count as a touch:
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Hughman,
Sorry for the misinterpretation.
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@ jay,
it’s not really conflicting. roissy said:
Be cognizant of how often you touch your girlfriend or wife, and vice versa. If your STIR starts inching above 0.5, you need to amp up your game to bring it back down to an acceptable level.
the advice is to pick up your game and bring the ration down, not simply ‘touch her less.’
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JR,
Cool, gotcha, I wasn’t thinking properly
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Pupu LOVES this lis. It is so sweet and true.
“This non-sexual touching can take many forms. For example:
A light graze of fingertips across your back as she walks behind you at a restaurant to take her seat.
A tousle of your hair.
A hand on your thigh at the movies.
Arms wrapped around your neck while you and her are walking down the sidewalk.
Kiss on the cheek for no apparent reason.
A brush of “lint” off your shoulders or hair.
Any unnecessary grooming.
Grabbing your hand first to hold it as you walk.
Hand resting on the small of your back.”
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I agree with j r. It’s not so much that you should have to touch less, but step up your game enough so she touches you more. Definitely possible to overdo the touching and seem needy, so the balance has to be found.
Jay also so some good points. You don’t want make outs and touching to be associated only when sex is about to happen. This will cause her to avoid it other times and even refuse when she is not fully in the mood for sex.
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So, if this includes… only “non-sexual spontaneous touching” then it should always be like 100:1. Why would I want to non-sexually touch my chick??
Lol, but in all seriousness…. this only goes for chicks you’re actually in a relationship with, not chicks you just met and are trying to bang for the first time, although there you should still pay attention to how the reciprocate your touching.
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In other news, Alex allman is either an idiot or a beta.
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This is a form of validation. All women want to be validated by their man. Non sexual proves that you “love her” because it’s “just cause”. Sexual proves that she is still sexually viable.
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I like to unsnap women’s bras. They tend to think its sexy and fun, even if they act annoyed. Doing stuff like this keeps women primed for sex most of the time. You have to be playful about it, and loving too. Polymath is right, it works for me too. I think there is validity to Roissy’s formula as well. It just doesn’t always work well 100%, but 80% or better is realistic. My wife and I simply touch each other a lot, pretty much all the time we’re together. I get a lot of sex too, more than every day.
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Just came across De Beaumont, “The Sword and Womankind, being an Informative History of Indiscreet Revelations”
when googling “droit de seigneur”, some of you may be interested in it generally.
Although published in 1929, you’ll note that complaints about the decline of womanhood had already started.
Most of the book is available online at the following link:-
http://books.google.ie/books?id=714zhyzu5TkC&pg=PA113&lpg=PA113&dq=the+sword+and+womankind&source=bl&ots=8w6rWD6uWX&sig=ROMoOCHI9rXKtff6Rwl-vioSFiY&hl=en&ei=g2XoS9jRJczz-Qb6_sjaDw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=9&ved=0CDkQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q&f=false
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http://www.observer.com/2010/slideshow/126196/christina-aguilera
Candidate for Beta
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Ovid,
WTF? The girl would be very cute except for the weird shape of her thighs in those stockings, but the guy is disturbing. The blog that came from has some good insights, I like this one: “The danger of universal literacy is that you teach many to read who lack the ability to think. That problem gets compounded when you give them televisions…”
j r,
Right, you should get the ratio up by bringing your game up, withdrawal is only one of the ways to do it. But if you’re each initiating contact very frequently already there is no need to keep the ratio below 0.5.
Jay,
Allman’s recommendations work for me but not necessarily for everyone. If you can keep the oxytocin flowing, she’ll never leave you.
kaikou,
Yes, both sexual and nonsexual touch are important, even better if there is a continuum there rather than a strict division.
Tyrone,
I could have written your last sentence. For fun I tried the unsnap move you recommended just now (with kids in the adjacent rooms it wasn’t going to lead anywhere) and I got “you’re very bad!” combined with sparkling eyes and a hip wiggle as she walked away.
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sdaedalus–
The first wave of feminism had not only begun and won a number of political victories by then, it had also played a role in greatly loosening up attitudes towards premarital and extramarital sex (see the Bloomsbury circle). The ’20s was the era of flappers and wild parties in which the upper middle class took part as well.
Among the feminist victories by then were getting women the right to divorce their husbands with alimony for mere unaggravated male infidelity. Female infidelity had always been grounds but not previously female infidelity, although husband abandonment had been. (Female infidelity meant divorce at the husband’s option without alimony or property division. At best she got to take what she brought into the marriage; often not that either depending on the country and the exact period.)
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It’s cat-string theory. The more you touch, the faster they’ll run away. Less you give them, the more they’ll start to chase you for affection.
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Girls will touch you more when:
1) You’ve given them large daily doses of great, passionate sex, that you alternate with
1b) regularly being too busy with (preferably lucrative) tasks to give them much attention
2) Show very stern boundaries and short sharp authoritarian burst for her worst shit tests – the more extreme the reaction to her most extreme shit test the better – violence or throwing the girl out the apartment or temporarily kicking her out are great. A shocking stern and sudden talk down also works. The more forceful you’ve shown the ability to abrubtly switch moods and take no shit, the more she’ll fear and respect you, and ltterally cling on to you.
3) regularly show how other girls are attracted to you when ou go out, and when at home bring up stories that allude to your interests in other girls, or their interest in you.
4) If your girl sees you as somehow of a higher class, much of your work is done for you. If she admires your work, your knowledge, your family background – if she sees you as belonging to the aristocratic classes, in any way, she’ll be proud to elbow hold your forearm everywhere you go
5) make her tingly whenever you go out, but both being very fashion conscious and well groomed and by behaving with a hint of scandal everywhere
First you have to get her addicted to you, through tons of positive re-enforcement. Slowly you back that down, back that down, until she is jonesin for that fix. Just aching inside and out for your lovin attention. All the time.
Arrange all the above and she’ll miss you while shopping for groceries. She’ll grind into you on escalators, hold you tight in elevators, and give you blowjobs in taxicabs.
It’s a mind game. One of you is going to win. Make it you. Own her, dominate her, play her like a musical instrument for which you were born with an undying obsessive compulsion to master and muse with.
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Oh, and one last thing – habituate the woman to following your command. This starts out slowly, but eventually you should be able to ask her to go make you a glass of carrot juice, and through all the associations she’s built up of it being pleasurable to obey you, she will feel thrilled at the opportunity to serve. Over and over and more and more treat her as if she is under your command.
You may think this has nothing to do with how often she’ll touch you, but you’ll see. A woman feels taken care of and loved and owned and part of a family when the man demands that she obey and serve. Do it with style and class and humor, but expect it that she will do what you say. You can do this – she will – you just have to get used to being the authority – much the same as a boss or parent is.
Then you’ll really be her daddy, her family, her friend, her lover, her world, and she’ll feel warm and fulfilled JUST TO SERVE YOU!
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The girls I live with work pretty well full time for me. Cooking and cleaning, and doing various secretarial and gopher work, when not having marathon sex or just hanging out with me. Wealth is a transfer of labor from other people to you. Women are suckers for a high status man who they can give their labor to. I was watching a movie about pimps yesterday – it’s amazing how women have this ability to see you as the ultimate authority over them, and will give all that they are. Wealth can come not just from invention, but from charisma. Those pimps were loaded, and they had true labor of love.
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I saw a dorky looking asian guy with a bangn hot girlfriend. (she was tall, really great hip to waist, curvy legs, long black hair). He just had jeans and baggy shirt untucked. Looked like programmer nerd. Except she was touching him constantly, running her hand through his hair as they waited for coffee. She was staring at him and he was just all stoic and oblivious.
I’ve never seen that before. I had to wonder, is this guy naturally like that, or has he had horrible results in the past, woke up and studied ASIAN-HARD at being a pimp.
The less he touched her, the more she just touched him. I mean, she was that into him.
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Good stuff xsplat.
OT: I have a date in a few days in a city I’m not very familiar with. Do you think it’s better to just keep it simple – go for strolls, find a nice coffee shop, go to a decent pub – or should I make an effort to plan something out, like the zoo, or a comedy show, or something like that?
The girl isn’t from my country, and is somewhat a high energy type (I will blitzkrieg-sex her ass) so she’d be a tourist here. I want to show her a good time. I’m leaning towards keeping it simple.
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It’s a mind game. She should wear about the house clothes that you approve of. If she stubbornly wears a shlumpy outfit, take the scissors to it while she is wearing it.
She’ll freak and be angry. And then when you go out she’ll ask you if you approve of outfit.
Rightful authority gentlemen. You build this up slowly, year after year, first through experience with older women (invaluable and an education you can’t get from young women), then through being an employer or authority in work spheres, then through being fucked over by women who you thought were sweet – this will teach you their Machiavelian ways – then through assuming the character of Daddy in love relationships, then through learning to stup up the dominamce – at first through sexual dominance but later in all things.
You’ll also need to date many girls who you don’t much care if you lose them. Girls you have hand over.
Through education, your personality will change, and you’ll discover the joys of being the man of your house, the final say in all maters, the manger, the father figure, the cherished patriarch, the supply of all things that are good.
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dc–
“does spontaneously smacking her on the ass count in this ratio?”
oh yeah. Double the points. 😉
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Anoukange, do you have Graves’ disease (hyperthyroidism)? Your eyes are bulging out and I can see the whites of your eyes above your pupils. You should see a doc if you are having any symptoms of Graves, it can shorten your lifespan.
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gee, I wonder who “Bob” is, not obvious or anything.
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Who do you think I am, honey?
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Large, almond-shaped eyes on women are hideous!! If only I had small, squinty, eyes…:(
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Hey I am only trying to help you. Obviously you are a very vain person. Graves’ ophthalmopathy is a common indicator of the disease. Seeing the sclera up above the your pupils like that is not normal.
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oki-doke “Bob”. Thanks for your concern. Turning an appreciation for attractiveness/beauty (especially in nature and in others) into an accusation of being vain sounds like it stems from your bag though, not mine.
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How often she touches is important, too. If whe rarely touches you, it won’t help if you’re tocuhing her even less.
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boys that run away with a girls desperately needed closure are just plain evil, and evil boys make me feel sad!
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@polymath;
I’m glad I could be of service!
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anouk,
Bob is probably wrong about your eyes but I think he’s sincere and his concern makes sense; he shouldn’t have called your dismissal of his query “vain”, but there are some doctors (my mother is one of them) who have a knack for diagnosing conditions just from photographs before even seeing the patient. The right response would have been “my doctor tells me I am fine” if you have a doctor, or “I’ll research this” if you don’t actually have a doctor.
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@Bob
Is that mole on her nose cancerous too?
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Unless it’s right in the beginning of the pick-up, I don’t notice how much we touch each other. After that, I probably have a subconscious tally, but I don’t give it any active thought. Chances I’m cheating on her are always 100%.
Large, almond-shaped eyes on women are hideous!! If only I had small, squinty, eyes…:(
Don’t hate on small eyes; they’re masculine features.
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Building your way to “Daddy” status should be the goal here.
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Maybe I’m too influenced by the dark post-apocalyptic hellish world painted by pua. I mean I think thats what I saw at Frat U. But I don’t even have any male friends. So I guess I could say that any guy who has male friends, has them because he is so cruel, brutish, sadistic, and cavemen and thus enslaves guys into being his friends.
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“Building your way to “Daddy” status should be the goal here.”
–ha, ha…yup. I will add that sensual touch carries the weight of a thousand spoken words without having to speak. It’s all in the unsaid. Loaded touch….almost better than sex.
Polymath-
“Bob” is a bratty hater. No worries, but thanks. I have yet to be nasty to another girl in the blog world and yet some have a beef with me. Hmmmm…just like high school and real life. Same ol, same ol. Pretty girls are nice, ugly girls are mean. See Assanova’s site, he had a post about this and it rings so true. Next I’ll have an “eating disorder” because I’m not a fat ass, just watch! I’ve been handed this shit my whole life.
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Hey Stuart….I’m SORRY you are fat. I am , but please don’t take it out on me…ok? Just put the twinkie down and we can talk.
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“Bob”, “Stuart”, “Cort”, Anon, etc. are all pussies that hide behind a fake name to post comments. I have never played the sock puppet game because I don’t have to.
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anouk,
Pretty girls can be at least as mean as ugly girls. They are more likely to be nice simply because they tend to be treated a lot better by the world so they are less bitter, but the ones who are not nice are actually more vicious and evil.
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polymath-
indeed. But it has been my findings that pretty girls tend to be mean to boys (because they can afford to be, but it’s still not right) and ugly girls tend to be mean to other girls. Girls are nasty to each other, it’s embarrassing as a woman to see it happen.
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Guys, worst failed attempt at negging ever.
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Tyrone,
Delayed effect. Stopping at the drugstore today a couple of days earlier than I thought I’d need to….
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Score one for Roissy:
31,427 Women Signed Up to Cheat After Mother’s Day
“Ashley Madison took a sample survey of the women who signed up yesterday, and found that:
67 percent identified themselves as stay-at-home moms.
The average age was 36.
Over two-thirds had been considering an affair before Mother’s Day.””
Read more: http://www.momlogic.com/2010/05/update_31427_women_signed_up_for_ashley_madison_the_day_after_mothers_day.php#ixzz0njO6FH5Y
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If she does not swallow, she doesn’t really like you that much.
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@polymath:
Tyrone,
Delayed effect. Stopping at the drugstore today a couple of days earlier than I thought I’d need to….
Glad to hear that. Its funny how Occam’s razor even applies to game.
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i should really think im an alien here but its really an oopps..its good to know..how then can you know which man is sincere or not..knowing everything man do is counted, studied, turned into percentage to arrive to conclusion. a conclusion that well..its plain out of this world..how do i know a man does not play this games..even if i am aware he does bec obviously, he runs the testings to get these percentages, any RX then to know how to escape him..polymath, i thought this is a good word. its making me hurt more than i can experience in childbirth that resulted from a single make out..its really duh honey.
if all men are like this..i wonder how can i give my self to make love when the moment i open my legs, i can imagine the many pimps you pumped that you are talking about? its tenfolds more intoxicating than oil spill.
lucky me, for no reason i just keep stumbling on plenty of males sites like this that shows me reality. as a proper, innocent but curious jane, i simply cant believe.
where do you find men who does not play mind games.
in outer space? gosh.. invent a rocket pls, you have rocket minds. maybe i and the likes of me would rather go outer space and bait one thats out of your kind of ‘race’s.
tell me then how cant a nice woman act like bitch to man and still be bitch to bitchy woman when real proper women dont get a share for a real proper man..
who ever initiate writing this, huh, thats why you are paranoid lucifer could be hunting you..you are simply funny. look, a woman laughing and looking down at you, how’s that.
you’ll tell me, ‘wtf’ cant you invent another word to match that? tounge poke on you, claws too. nope, not one of your kittens. a tigress claw and pangs on you!
its really grrrr to find you like this.
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The list isn’t in numerical order.
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