May 18, 2010 by CH
Imagine you ignored everything you read here and proposed to your girlfriend. She accepted. Would you have second thoughts if you saw her Facebook page the next day and she had changed her profile photo to this? (hat tip: Lance Armstrong’s Molester Mustache):
The poor bastard who married this girl is in for a world of hurt. He will
NEVER
STOP
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Ha ha. That’s funny. It’s too bad dudes can’t brag on Facebook that way. If we could, it would say something like:
“Dude, I had a threesome this weekend. Awesome!”
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Facebook is for girls, so it would be my fault for ever logging in and checking in the first place.
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The scary part? Her reaction is just “FUN”
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I dunno, I might be more worried if she said nothing about it. If she says nothing, is she not really committed to the idea? Keeping her options open?
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the picture seems pretty normal to me. I would delete facebook, but i’ll feel so lonely.
I had sex with a girl a bunch of times and spent a whole week together non stop. then she had exams and no time for me and i was too distracting. now she says she needs time for herself and the idea of me makes her uncomfortable. i havent seen her since those exams started. is this just commitment issues? it seems i should just leave her alone completely and see what happens right. she was very into me.
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Tarl, the point is that she is showing off the ring. If she felt the need to show off anything, to the world, it would be the man who payed for it. As in, ” I have, by far, the greatest man in the world.”
Instead, she has a new shiny toy and this is all so “fun”. It is about her and the attention, and toys, that she is getting.
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@ Tarl – I agree. I’d probably be more concerned if she was silent. I don’t think what she did is a harbinger of a painful, sexless and costly future for her fiancee.
Talking about the engagement ring is a good way to test a girl, and it’s also a good conversation starter. If you just ask a random group of girls if it were alright for their fiancee to propose using a ribbon, they’d go ballistic. It gets really fun when they come up with these ridiculous justifications for it. After enough time goes by, most girls will usually just admit that they want to have something to show to their friends. The breakdown in their faux logic is more entertaining than the NBA playoffs up to this point.
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@Tarl
I think the sad part is that she said nothing about the guy, and her picture is one of her hand, overpriced rubbish – i.e. diamond, and a bunch of expensive flowers. With her reaction being ‘FUN!’, as opposed to “I’m in love!”, or “I’m marrying the best guy ever!”, she cements the notion that this has nothing to do with her fiancee, but is merely an exercise in materialistic status whoring. Wonder how much the wedding will cost the poor sap. Offshore your assets now!!
My best friend’s girl wants to have a beer & pizza party for their reception. And she’s the classiest, most polished girl I know! I wholeheartedly approve.
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The “FUN!” statement is the most concerning. Doesn’t sound like genuine excitement about being engaged.
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If a woman isn’t willing to wear the “diamond on the inside” ring you posted here before and forego the legal document, then she doesn’t deserve marriage.
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The picture should be a cute shot of the two cuddling joyfully just after the proposal. I don’t see the guy getting looted of his assets because if he’s buying a ring like that he clearly doesn’t have any, unless he is in the military and his pension is at risk.
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That hand looks familiar…
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Tarl – having the ring on means nothing anyway.
With the ring on:
How many engagements have been broken?
How many divorces from infidelity/”boredom”?
How many affairs?
An even better question- how many of these have been prevented by the ring?
If the would be bride found herself about to have an affair (have an affair- such a neutral way of saying it that absolves the woman of responsibilty; big suprise), in a fit of emotionalism and gina tingles after having been swept off of her feet by a smooth talking Lothario- and then stopped when she looked down at her ring and remembered her promise- it might be a worthy investment.
But how often do women do that? I would guess not often- most women are completely controlled by their emotions and gina tingles.
A ring, and the wedding for that matter, is, at best, a wasted investment and, at worst, a fraud, in that it does not procure what is promised and what the man expects and desires….
The love and fidelity of his bride.
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I overheard a couple of women talking about a ring the other day — this is one of their favorite subjects. There’s nothing that boosts a woman’s status amongst her peers like a fat diamond.
I’ll never forgive the bastards at De Beers for that.
You know how it’s often said that property was “stolen” from Indians for trinkets such as glass beads? Well, we’re the Indians here.
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i thought exactly the same thing about “FUN”….dollars to donuts she takes all his shit inside of 4 years….unless he makes mad bank…she might wait a few years longer….while banging half the local crew team on the side.
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100%, spot on correct on your assesment.
HOWEVER, there is no need to publicly out her like that.
Cover up her name.
There are unwritten rules about these things.
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Also…the best part of the picture is the “fun!” line.
It isn’t deeply romantic or a life changing event or becoming part of a new family…its fun!
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lozlzlzozlzl
that hand looks just like the one wrapped around my cock! lzozlzlz
http://nomarriage.com
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T2KQ3HVOL7JBM7FPU
http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/11/14/do-not-marry-do-not-have-children/
lzozlzlzlzlzl omg lzozlzlzlzl
fellas in this life yas gotta choose
do you want her hand wrapped around your cock or do you want 2 be wrapped around her finger?
lozlzlzlzlz
and chances are that finger was in some aholes ahole once or twice or thrice lzozlz
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Fuck fakebook. Fuck blood diamonds. Fuck proposing and marrying western harpies. Embrace freedom.
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I didn’t even notice the ‘FUN’ at first, but yeah that pretty much takes the cake right there. Showing off the ring is just simply hilarious.
Just proves that girls want to be brides and fiances, but not wives.
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I think the biggest problem men have is that they genuinely want to love women….
Sometimes I feel like game desensitizes you from love….
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Awe, showing off her diamond and flowers. Someone needs to foward this post to her so called “fiancee”.
I don’t think I have ever heard an engagement regarded as ‘FUN’ before. What’s the marriage status going to be – ‘GOOD’?
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I think the biggest problem men have is that they genuinely want to love women
Yes.
Sometimes I feel like game desensitizes you from love…
by showing what the object of your affections truly respond to.
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Poor bastard. The pic tells me she is motivated only to be “queen for the day” and he happens to fit the role of husband in the drama that is her life just fine.
I pity the fool. He is in for a rude awakening when she files for divorce to “go find herself” and make him pay child support and alimony.
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Adding to GBFM’s list, here is another one:
http://weddedabyss.wordpress.com/
… FUN indeed.
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Is this chick from Michigan?
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Is this chick from Michigan?
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The appropriate response would be to photoshop in your cock for one of the flowers, and then tag her hand in the photo, no?
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Reinholt, that is brilliant.
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Of course you can post your threesome scores in facebook, that will only lead to more threesomes
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this isnt an underlining and boldfacing of the new status certain long time associate in the game of our mutual aquintance is it? hee hee. I love it!
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That looks a lot like this.
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The scary part? Her reaction is just “FUN”
You are wise for a rookie.
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@the rookie
yeah, that was what i was about to say as well. i’m not saying i’d want some loco girl obsessed with it or anything, but “fun?” that’s all she can say? really? i’d never marry in any case, but that alone would be grounds for dumping if i was ever gang pressed into it.
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Have you guys read “The Lie” by Chad-Kultgen? The Lie complete nails the female mentality towards marriage. (FYI, I’m not in any way affiliated with the author or publishing company.)
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and it’s true that game completely desensitizes you to all your old, childish illusions. it’s still hard to let go. and when you get to the end, there’s nothing there – girls have nothing to them, there’s no transgressive element. that’s not to say it isn’t still necessary to game them to keep your nuts from imploding/going nuts yourself, though.
i remember roissy (i think?) saying a while ago that almost all men would be more than happy with one 7 who they wouldn’t have to constantly game and fend off cock invaders from, but women don’t work like that. they aren’t amenable to love at all.
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they aren’t amenable to love at all.
Nope. I learned that in my marriage. I was kind and gentle and accommodating. She returned my love by crushing my soul. And, compared to most, she was a quality chick.
By reading Roissy, I become enlightened. The more of an asshole I was, the better she treated me. It got old, though. Why run game to bang the same chick? If you’re going to run game, bang other chicks. And so my marriage was saved only for me to break her heart….
You are right that many of us would love to have a legit woman that we could tend to and start a family with. Such sentiments are natural for most men.
That’s why there is talk of “natural alphas.” A natural simply doesn’t have the nurturing genes.
I was not a natural alpha, though today you’d never know it. I was a natural beta.
In dating, I sometimes find myself missing a step and returning to my old ways. Like an alcoholic, it’s probably best to refer to myself as a recovering beta.
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Yep. Beta dreams are just that: Dreams.
This is probably good knowledge to impart on the readers, at this point in the discussion.
The book called Women’s Infidelity by the author Michelle Langley. Quite a ball-buster herself, Michelle nonetheless knows the dark truths about hypagamy:
http://www.womensinfidelity.com/
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@live from san francisco
yeah, it’s ironic how you grow up hearing “men just can’t settle down/are natural philanderers” and at some point you stop and think “wait a minute…”
it’s just solipsism. girls only know – and definitely only remember – the alphas who came and left their lives. and like you said, alphas don’t settle.
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Lone Ape wrote: “I had sex with a girl a bunch of times and spent a whole week together non stop. then she had exams and no time for me and i was too distracting. now she says she needs time for herself and the idea of me makes her uncomfortable. i havent seen her since those exams started. is this just commitment issues? it seems i should just leave her alone completely and see what happens right. she was very into me.
Loon_Jobbie says…I’m pretty new to the Game myself…but I think this is a classic example of a shit test. The good news is that she could be REALLY into you and is just testing you. She would only test you in this way to make sure that you are Alpha enough for her. Stop trying to contact her if you are. A good course of action would be to write on your Facebook status some bullshit about having another hot date tonight with a cute girl. When girl #1 contacts you acting strangely angry and expecting you to know why, don’t ask her “what’s wrong?” or try to make her happy. Treat her like a spoiled child, laugh at her, make fun of her and seem really happy with your lot in life. Be completely oblivious to her self-created pain.
If she actually challenges you on dating other people, just laugh it off and tell her “she’s acting cute.” Don’t get defensive or accuse her of saying she did not want to see you. Whatever you do, do not go right over to her place if she wants to see you, and do NOT offer to cancel your date to see her. Remember, you have another “date” and it would be rude to cancel. Do not break down or get serious with her. Eventually she will hang up, but the important thing is that you do not call her back to apologize or to tell her how important she is to you.
In a day or two she’ll most likely call you back, just act like nothing happened and you can schedule a date with her. If she later tells you she met someone herself, act really happy for her and tell her “you see? There is a jack for every Jane!” Praise the guy to the heavens, and explain how you were too much of a jerk to make a good boyfriend.
Hope this helps.
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In class one day.
Prof: You know diamonds are price-fixed?
Girls in Class: Yes
Prof: You know they’re soaked in blood?
Girls in Class: Yes
Prof: Ok, so how many of you want your fiance to get you a diamond ring?
All of them.
Every last one.
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I love blog!
Disgusting! more gamma’s & white knights types. kill me!
I tell well meaning men who try to buy me shit, pay me compliments and feel my feeleings to quit it. the way to discuss the big bang theory is you be a dude and i will a chic.
I despise valentines day b/c its tokennery. some poor bastard conforming to these societal marketing love norms makes me sick. the one who says, “girl, I aint into v-day but I am into your V”. will get personal privacy rights on me anyday.
Ladies, get off your asses and buy your own pathetic jewerly like I do.
boycott love, embrace da game.
Facebook further enrages me. I have a page for my aunt. its what women do. but we never IM, text, email, comment etc. b/c we are busy but not busy enough to not post up pics and news. sooooooooo, when we post up girl stuff the rest of the freinds jump in and comment. all those annoying types are OCCD: obsessive complusive communicating disordered nuts. hate facebook.
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I keep telling young people my age that asset protection is for us, not those over 50. asset protection is EVERYONE. and well meaing peoplw love to separate you from your money, all for a woman. idiots! guys, dont’ blow your money on stupid shit like that.
Saving money, investing and guns are sexy. Spending is not seki’s.
Back when times were better, like 7 or 8 years ago, I bought a 2 carat ring at a bankers auction. It was bloody, sure, but for $700. I have a nice rock and it makes me tingle down there. all via my own work, my own enjoyment.
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This is the offending chick’s Facebook page:
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=600404244
She’s changed the profile picture, but it’s her.
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http://www.nationalpost.com/most-popular/story.html?id=3039965
Cellphone provider sends “consolidated” bill to woman’s husband, revealing that she’s committing adultery; she’s suing the cellphone company for breach of contract and not protecting her privacy. Full-on display of entitlement, hypocrisy, and delusional psychosis.
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There’s nothing particularly wrong with a girl showing off the ring. For one thing, the ring is actually a status symbol for the male as well as the female. It’s a little like peacocking: the ring doesn’t show off your woman’s prowess, it shows off the man’s prowess. The woman is essentially basking by showing that her man has solid status. Her status is thus derivative of the man’s status, and that’s a good place for a woman to be. Also, from a purely practical perspective, people want to see the ring, so it makes sense to show it. Heck, even men usually want to see the ring when a girl gets engaged – if nothing else, to get a feel for the kind of guy who bought it, and where he stacks up in the status competition.
From my perspective, I think there are two primary problems with the photo: first, the idiocy of the comment “FUN!” shows that this girl is a monosyllabic quasi-retard; and second, that is a small, crappy ring.
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Johnnny_Marks…if that is her, then she apparantly is bisexual also.
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The book ‘the great female con’ by Andy readad is truth about why women get married to slave men. It’s their instinct.
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Live From San Fran…
…I have a VERY similar story. Fiance became an uber-bitch during rough spots in our relationship after our engagement. She was great when things were great, but give it a fight or two or a boring week or me putting on a few pounds during a stressful time at work…. AND she became a bitch. I get fed up, start reading up on game and Roissy on here and sleep around, and then she loves me again. Too bad bitch…Im moving on.
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Mm….looks like I might’ve passed the test back when my proposal came (listing this out for the ladies who read to learn like me)
Omega Man
“The picture should be a cute shot of the two cuddling joyfully just after the proposal.”
Check…yay
Tarl
“I might be more worried if she said nothing about it. If she says nothing, is she not really committed to the idea?”
Check… cool. Thought I was being douchette… but I didn’t want to have to call 134,098 people to share the news when the interwebs can do that for me!
EastPole
“With her reaction being ‘FUN!’, as opposed to “I’m in love!”, or “I’m marrying the best guy ever!”
Check… for the latter type of phrase of course 🙂 (“Luckiest girl in the universe!!” etc.)
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Any girl with a Facebook page is a suspect.
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@Cw
Yes it’s a great read.
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=mnpKElJaFyIC&dq=the+great+female+con&printsec=frontcover&source=bn&hl=en&ei=AgvzS-e-K5fKmgPm372fDQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CCcQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q&f=false
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*throws meat to the vultures*
Here guys, look at this modern independant woman.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2010/may/17/liz-jones
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what if she posted a pic of the happy soon to be groom… Would that be too much? At least she’s happy about getting married, some women aren’t.
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The only thing that guy could do to redeem himself is to take a picture of the ring on her hand whilst getting a handjob from her and upload the picture to Facebook and tag all her friends.
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hahahahaha oh facebook
RE: LSB
““I might be more worried if she said nothing about it. If she says nothing, is she not really committed to the idea?”
Check… cool. Thought I was being douchette… but I didn’t want to have to call 134,098 people to share the news when the interwebs can do that for me!”
hmmm. when i got engaged, facebook didn’t know. facebook still doesn’t technically know.
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start reading up on game and Roissy on here and sleep around, and then she loves me again
I read (maybe here) that the best way to improve your martial life is to bang another chick. It’s true. Women can sense a disturbance in the force, and then they treat you with respect once again. Respect is earned, not given. Respect is earned not through gentleness, romance, or fidelity – but through fucking bar whores. Gotta love that irony…
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Guys, a fiancé is a man. A fiancée is a woman. They are not interchangeable terms!
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http://news.yahoo.com/video/local-15749667/19886199
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fuck facebook, fuck diamonds, fuck red roses.
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seriously going to pour out an eighth for the guy if “anoukange” actually gets married.
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If she’s a “hopeless romantic,” boy, is he in for figuratively getting f*cked up the ass without any K-Y… THEN he’ll find out she’s f*cking three guys on the side who might be her “soul mate” because she gets pregnant by one on ’em and divorces him while demanding alimony/child support so she can marry the next guy… until she get bored and starts f*cking around on him chasing that romantic “high” too, which she’ll blame on the first guy for misleading her in marrying him in the first place and getting a judge to jack up the alimony/child supportbecause the second guy was just a jerkass with a big dick and no wallet. YOU’RE IN FOR A WORLD OF SH*T, BUDDY!
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kheledale-
keep your eighth–
I’m a huge romantic but romance has nothing to do with anyone but the two people in the relationship. I’ll most likely live for years on end together with a guy without ever getting married. Marriage isn’t needed, love is…and I’m not talking a love of diamonds. Ya’ dig?
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I’m convinced most in the dating scene today have ADD. If you get bored of someone in under five years (ideally it should take at least a decade…but hey–) then the problem is either your own ADD or you didn’t pick quality.
[editor: or you’re a man.
variety is the spice of life.]
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Cigstache, a haiku:
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The cigarrette scream
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thy phlegmy stache calls my name
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kneel, omega mine
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It ain’t as bad as all you guyz think, really.
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Love the irony of the word “FUN”
The fun for him ends here, while hers starts.
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anoukange: “fuck facebook, fuck diamonds, fuck red roses.”
ok.
…but thinking about your “10 years”… we don’t have life anymore that can adapt to 10 years together. Think about it: internet, cellphones, jets.
10 years together is like 3 long lifetimes together, not lack of ADD — and it is much less sex together…I’m sorry to say that.
I mean… we have to work like crazy to have a life AND share it with a spouse. She is always giving some trouble being obnoxious and she never really helps — because women are “liberated” from having to work a marriage. And then if you have only her, she will loose interest in spontaneous, daily sex with you, making your life hell! You have to game and game and game to have sex with her once a week, and it drains you out.
It’s much better for a guy to have a girlfriend, and others alongside, than marry. It is much easier and much more pleasant. It doesn’t have anything to do with quality, it has to do with women being married.
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yes, thank you dear dark editor
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To that dude, remember that famous line by Hudson in the movie Aliens after the dropship crashed: “That’s it, man! Game over, man! Game over! We’re really f*cked now!”
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Prophet J-
my comment re: facebook and ADD was directed more towards women in general. I suppose both can apply to men as well.
Yes, men are designed differently, I have been studying them for years now. And to add to it, the current climate of romance/dating/marriage, etc. is for shit to say the least. It has been well documented and fumed over here, so I get where many of you are coming from. In real life, for me at least, I don’t have to have a guy that reached the level that many of you speak of. There are guys that haven’t hit the jaded wall. There are men who still get enjoyment out of pairing off with someone for however long it lasts. Some need absoluteness, others the opposite. There’s a lot of gray in between–and that’s what makes up a lot of the threads we read/chat on. From what I can tell (so far) both guys and gals are looking for the less jaded type.
Those who are jaded are done, spent, sold, lemons. The tracks are laid already and they are a passenger. Who wants to have a shitty time because either someone else didn’t/isn’t getting laid enough (conservative dork) or didn’t put their pace at a healthy one (spastic sex addict) and burnt themselves out? That’s not MY bag.
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[editor: or you’re a man.
variety is the spice of life.]
–and this is why I always look into a man’s Venus placement to help determine what the exchange will be between us. Obsidian knows what I’m talking about.
But seriously, I get this, I do. It does depend on the guy and to what extent he needs to answer this “need”. There are varied degrees of it in men.
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In case anyone ever wanted to get married in the West:
http://dontmarry.wordpress.com/2009/03/24/articles-by-f-roger-devlin/
Rotating Polyandry—and its Enforcers
Any PUA will immediately recognize and certify all of the female behaviour mentioned in the first book review, Women’s Infidelity Living in Limbo by Michelle Langley.
Anyone who has had actual relationships with women knows these things are true, unless they’re still suckered by the bill of goods the Pedestalization movement sold us all.
Anti-Marriage is dead on.
Women: Take a good, hard, long look at the dating and marriage world as it appears to men. See how men see you.
23 “boyfriends” before your third year of college? Men love fucking you. Only retarded men and the loser betas you hate so much will have anything more to do with you once they’re done.
Realize: I’m going to have to manipulate the living shit out of any guy to get him to marry me.
Men: be forewarned and forearmed. Be single. Learn game. Sleep with them, adore them, exchange lovers’ embraces and enjoy women. They’re great creatures. Lots of fun.
But don’t marry them. You might luck out, but there’s a pretty good chance you’ll be screwed to the wall. And the same woman smiling at you (more likely the camera) at the wedding will be pulling out your left eyeball while she sneers during your divorce. Don’t worry: you get your revenge when she’s 35-45 and bitterly single and you’re fucking her friends’ daughters.
The biggest loser: All of us. We’ve created this through passive acceptance. Our society is going straight into the toilet.
Western society: No children; women having kids past 35 years of age just to get even one; nuclear war on the family and any kind of social bonding;
and opportunistic, limber PUAs to collect the pussy pieces that fall out.
It took me 15 years to learn I could get it all without investing a penny, and that (shock) you women liked this more.
When you hate these guys who fiddle with you and discard you, just remember, women:
You and your mothers created us. You create us every day.
Literally and figuratively.
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“But seriously, I get this, I do. It does depend on the guy and to what extent he needs to answer this “need”. There are varied degrees of it in men.”
anoukange, it’s right: to marry you need a certain degree of Beta male.
It has nothing to do with dorks and sex addicts… it’s just boring, hard work and unpleasant to be with the same woman for so long – specially married, which is very risky.
If she compensated for the losses…
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Interesting how the moralists think that when prostitution is paid for with cash it is bad, but when it is paid for with diamonds it is good.
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I never got my fiancee a diamond – we just agreed to get married and set the date for 3 months later. I paid $400 for golden wedding bands and that was it.
But this was not in the U.S.
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I think many chicks use Facebook as a way of maintaining control. They decide who gets to see their slutty photos they post and who doesn’t.
I know one who constantly loads up tarty photos of herself and then deleted me when I negged her about one. Every other guy who comments pays homage “Wow, so gorgeous”…blah… One of my comments was “Nice, but not the direction I would have taken”.
Now we don’t talk in real life. Lame.
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Marriage may be done due to the stupid feminist movement but don’t knock love.
Is love beta?? Or is love alpha?? Or is love gamma??
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“If she compensated for the losses…”
–it’s her job as a woman to compensate for the losses. It is her job to make spending time with her worth your while. She should offer, not demand.
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Stan taking it a step further, I’ve actually successfully gamed a girl by telling her I don’t buy girls drinks because it feels like buying a prostitute. Its white knighting plus negging rolled into one huge gina moisturizer.
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Stan, I immediately thought of this:
Notice how Cavuto is all “uh, oh, um, uh…” and doesn’t know how to respond, but Marc is dead on. If you want to know if a woman is only with you for your money, in other words prostituting herself to you, then take away the money. Better yet don’t cough up high ticket items or cash in the first place.
Look up more Marc Rudov interview segments on youtube and listen to the people trying to rebuke him. Nearly every last one of them cannot do so logically and resort to shaming tactics and logical fallacies.
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@chic noir
Here guys, look at this modern independant woman.
The pic looks about as I expected, but why is it upside down?
At least she’s happy about getting married, some women aren’t.
Look again at the pic and what she wrote. She is happy about getting engaged, not excited about getting (or being) married.
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@LIL
Really… interesting. Can it be inferred that you are engaged (or in a relationship), or is it more that it’s just not spelled out literally that you are?
I suppose a lot of it could depend on how someone uses Facebook. Some people use Facebook to fully document their lives in photos and status updates, some use to fully manage their social lives with comments and messages, some use it just to observe others and do very little, etc.
A friend of mine barely uses Facebook. She got married over a year ago. Aside from what people write on her Wall, you wouldn’t know she’s married. She doesn’t use it a lot, too busy being a wife and student.
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Instead of “OR” that should be “AND” about inferring, ha.
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Congratulations, he is going to marry a social networking whore – whore for attention, and possibly even for strange cocks.
Women are happy about the wedding first, and the marriage duties (chores, cooking, legs spreading for husband etc) a distant second. The most voracious, meticulous, demanding and pedantic wedding plan overseers have ALWAYS been the females. Don’t want to screw up that ‘princess for a day’ cosplay event.
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@Nutz
“If you want to know if a woman is only with you for your money, in other words prostituting herself to you, then take away the money. Better yet don’t cough up high ticket items or cash in the first place.”
There is nothing wrong with letting a woman know that you have money if you’re genuinely loaded. The important thing is to not let her ‘have the keys to your vault’, as Tom Leykis had succinctly described it.
You own a gorgeous car? She doesn’t get to ride on it, or at least won’t get to be chauffeured around on her whim. You are also not obliged to splurge on gifts for her during V-day(avoid, avoid, avoid the 14th of February) or her birthday or some silly anniversary.
Of course, avoid marriage and cohabitation too. She may call you a cheapskate, but so long as you have banged her at least ONCE, you have got your return on investment in full. She, her opinion and her displeasure can collectively go take a hike while you move on with your wonderful life.
DTB swiftly with a ‘There’s the door’ when she presses for ‘commitment’, usually either by issuing an ultimatum or with buckets of tears. Do not give in, relent and buy that ring. Stand your ground.
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@Prophet Jeremiah
10 years together is like 3 long lifetimes together, not lack of ADD — and it is much less sex together…I’m sorry to say that.
I mean… we have to work like crazy to have a life AND share it with a spouse. She is always giving some trouble being obnoxious and she never really helps — because women are “liberated” from having to work a marriage. And then if you have only her, she will loose interest in spontaneous, daily sex with you, making your life hell! You have to game and game and game to have sex with her once a week, and it drains you out.
I’m here to learn LTR game, not preach the benefits of marriage. But I will say that I’ve been married for 15 years and it is nothing like you describe.
My wife and I are incredibly bonded, with stronger chemistry (sexual and otherwise) than when we first dated. We never run out of things to talk about, and often talk late into the night when we should be sleeping. I work from home and she only works a few hrs a day so we are always together. If we are away for a few days we really miss each other. I won’t share the details of our sex life except to say that she doesn’t deny me and often enough literally drags me into the bedroom when I’m focused on something else or on my way out the door doing anything manly (hunting/shooting/fishing/kayaking/fixing something). Working from home has its benefits, which brings new meaning to the typical afternoon break. At 35 she is still amazingly sexy to me.
And as most here already guessed I’m pretty beta. I’ve learned some great LTR game ideas from this site over the last few months, which has made our marriage that much better.
So yeah, marriage 2.0 really sucks legally, and the vast majority of women aren’t worth the risk even for beta guys like me. But not all such marriages are loveless sexless hells on earth.
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[…] from Boy Game: The Social Proposal By lovelysexybeauty A post over at Roissy’s (“Second Throughts“) was about how a particular girl announced her recent proposal on Facebook. The picture […]
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anoukange
fuck facebook, fuck diamonds, fuck red roses.
fuck anoukange
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anoukange
I’m a huge romantic
Says the woman who had sex with a primate on a public bus.
but romance has nothing to do with anyone but the two people in the relationship.
….and all the other people on that bus. LOL.
When anoukange decides to show off her husband and her kids it will be on Facebook.
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I feel bad for this Jordan chick getting all this unwanted (or rather unflattering) attention but in looking at her new profile picture, she has the wide-ass smile Roissy has talked about before. Goes to show ya…
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Dalrock,
It’s more common than you think, you shouldn’t say that the women unsuitable for this kind of marriage are “vast majority”. There are several other regular commenters on this blog who have happy long-term marriages with plenty of good sex.
Of the minority of women suitable for marriage, a much smaller subset will be compatible with any given man, but they’re not rare enough that it isn’t worth looking for them.
The most important features to look for if you want a happy permanent relationship (apart from the obvious ones that you’re attractive to each other and compatible) are
1) consistent good character in matters unrelated to dating and relationships (of course good character in relationships is even more important but harder to get an objective picture of in advance)
2) an intact traditional family with whom she is on good terms
3) on good terms with all ex-boyfriends (but not so good that she will still fuck them!), and they should be countable on one hand.
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Not sure if anyone is reading this post still… curious what you would rate her. 6? She has an “everyday girl” face so interested to know. (And please no Nik Ritchie style comments about her gumline and Noodles smell)
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@Dalrock
“So yeah, marriage 2.0 really sucks legally, and the vast majority of women aren’t worth the risk even for beta guys like me. But not all such marriages are loveless sexless hells on earth.”
Still, when married you are legally bonded to a grand total of ONE vagina, or else. It is a major rip-off. Don’t forget additional annoyances that come with the package eg. in-laws and various little restrictions she will impose on you eg. how you spend your money, whom you hang out with.
The have been many cases of the wife taking the husband to the cleaners after 10,20 years of marriage. Or grannies murdering or attempting to murder their husbands. Even if you deem yourself happily married now, do not think that things won’t change in the future.
Lastly, marriage has nothing to do with love. It’s a business transaction sealed by a legal contract. Sometimes political alliances are forged between two families through a marriage. There is also nothing ‘holy’ or ‘spiritual’ about it. Even in the days of Marriage 1.0, married men were reduced to breadwinning beasts of burden. It was still a bad deal, though obviously not as bad as Marriage 2.0 of today.
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Hear that girls? mgtow is still available!
Sorry, man. But seriously, lighten up. I’m not trying to sell you or anyone else on anything. Marry, or don’t. Go to hookers, or get yourself a Roissy style harem. It’s all fine with me.
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“Women: Take a good, hard, long look at the dating and marriage world as it appears to men. See how men see you.
23 “boyfriends” before your third year of college? Men love fucking you. Only retarded men and the loser betas you hate so much will have anything more to do with you once they’re done.”
Bingo. Been there, done that. She had 27 “boyfriends” by the time I met her. I took the sex, and that was it. She talked about marriage, when I shot that down, she went psycho.
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Not all women are superficial gold diggers. I never wanted or received an engagement ring. My wedding band was simple and inexpensive as was the wedding reception and honeymoon.
I love and respect my husband. We’ve been together and faithful for a long time. After 24 years, he presented me with an antique ring circa 1930, so no blood diamond.
I was from the NYC area, so conspicuous consumption was the norm long before it became fashionable throughout the rest of the country.
And in case you’re wondering, I had no shortage of interested men. I wanted the quality man, however, and not the game players. Be discerning about the women you pursue.
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anoukange,
sure. I concur. I like that. Why aren’t you married if you hold such treasure?
Dalrock,
You say it benefited from Game didn’t you? My point: I have to game game game. So, for me, it’s better to game girl a, game girl b, and game girl c while I’m at it.
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To my haters (aka revenge of the nerds):
I shared not a smidgen of romance with the chimp. That’s the whole point really. But the little chimps that were linked to are quite cute!
I will do all that I can to help you guys/gals get laid, clearly you’re in need.
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Anouk, ok.
But I was really asking you: why aren’t you married if you have such knowledge? I am curious, not sarcastic.
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Prophet J-
My end goal in life isn’t marriage. I’ve just not honed in on that specifically. If it happens, it happens because the guy and I wanted to make it happen. I just find it unnecessary. As I’ve stated here before, I was in a six year /live together relationship and I was well taken care of by him with no marriage (he made three times what I did)…but I also met him when he had nothing, so he knew I loved him genuinely. I make a good enough living that I can support myself entirely on my own in an expensive city so I am somewhat independent in that sense, but I’m busting my ass to do so. I didn’t have to work-work when with him, I was a freelance artist only. The point is, I was happy, he was happy. I saw how hard he worked for his money and since I know what it’s like to work hard, I had/have no intention of taking, sneaking or outright stealing a man’s money. If he doesn’t want to share it with my broke ass, I’m doing something wrong as a woman. I have great respect for men who earn money because it’s hard to do.
Marriage is for when two people want children. Outside of that, my own life has proven to me that it’s not a necessity. I know it sounds like a joke, but really, I’m in it for the love and for the company of the guy. I’ve been proposed to, I said no. Why change what ain’t broke? It’s gonna take more than society’s norms to turn me away from what instinctively feels right for me.
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@NYCbachelor:
“A ring, and the wedding for that matter, is, at best, a wasted investment ”
Be it for the husband-to-be or the bride’s parents.
“and, at worst, a fraud, in that it does not procure what is promised and what the man expects and desires….
The love and fidelity of his bride.”
And vice versa.
@Aunt Haley:
Guys, a fiancé is a man. A fiancée is a woman. They are not interchangeable terms!
Thank you. I detest seeing ignorance; particularly with language.
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I find this sad in so many ways. But, I don’t really feel sorry for the guy, it was his own mistake. She’s also going to get what she wants. It’s a win-win situation until the day of divorce. He’d just have to learn how to keep her tied down, it’s a possibility even if it’s a very low one.
What I don’t understand is how do the women who are unloyal to their men even make it into a relationship? I can pick out the not-good-girls by a look and a few minutes of conversation, and I cringe when one of my guy-friends starts dating one….
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Any way you slice it… the dude’s f*cked.
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