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Beach Game

June 3, 2010 by CH

Readers will sometimes email me with pickup stories or game tips that are too good not to have a wider audience. Since the summer is upon us, this email I received from a reader who overheard a pickup attempt describes a great example of beach game. When you read this, imagine yourself doing the same thing successfully. That should fire your engines.

I love your blog, long time lurker, first time poster blah blah, etc. You know the drill. I’m really writing because I’ve got a fun anecdote for you.

At the beach this weekend my boyfriend and I witnessed some awesome game on another girl sunbathing nearby. Since I’m female, I have no use for it other than amusement value, but I thought you might enjoy it.

The girl was laying down reading a shitty chick-lit book, and this guy with a camera, evidently an amateur photographer, came up to her. This was the exchange that followed:

HIM: Hey, mind if I take a photo?
HER (surprised, sort of unsure, looking up at him as he towers over her): Uhh, sure.
HIM: Ok, great.
(He extends his hand to her, sort of helps her up so now she’s standing next to him. He then proceeds to take a photo of not her, but where she was laying down — her beach towel, book, bag, sunscreen, etc. She seemed pretty surprised.)
HER: That’s what you wanted to photograph?
HIM: Yeah.
HER: Why?
HIM (ignoring her real question): It’s my hobby.
HER: Yeah, I already noticed that. But what’s so special about this? (gestures to the stuff)
HIM: I just happen to find it special. Haven’t you ever felt drawn to something without knowing why? Like, you just had to look twice, for some reason?
HER: Uh, yeah, I guess.
HIM: Most people don’t really stop to notice the beauty in ordinary things. That’s why I like photography, it teaches you to notice things that you wouldn’t have before. (Was this another neg?)
HER: Oh yeah? And what have you noticed, then?
HIM: Well, for one, I’ve noticed that you’re just sitting here reading while your friends are having fun in the water. (There were two empty beach towels near her, so it looked like she was watching their stuff).
(Teasingly) It must be a really good book.
HER: (laughs a little) Yeah, it’s pretty good.
HIM: Anyway, thanks for letting me take my picture.
HER: Sure, no problem.
HIM: Well, I’m off. There are so many interesting things to see and do around here. It was nice to meet you.
HER: Like what things?
HIM: Everything can be an inspiration if you’ve got the right attitude. If you’d like, you’re welcome to come with me and maybe we’ll find some. Good company always helps.
HER: Oh, I can’t just leave my friends’ stuff and everything.
HIM: Sure you can.

THEN he addresses ME. This guy was so pro. I guess he saw us watching them.

HIM: Hey, you seem like a nice person. Do you mind sort of keeping an eye on this stuff until her friends get back?
ME: Yeah, no problem.
HIM: See, no problem?

The girl texts her friends and he leaves with her. Awesome.

If you read this whole thing, let me know what you think.

Keep up the good work.

-Andrea

Fantastic. What camera guy did was textbook. And I mean that in the literal sense; judging by his words I’d be surprised if he wasn’t familiar with the seduction community and pickup literature, particularly NLP influenced speed seduction. His conversation reads like a well-rehearsed routine. Which goes to show that routines aren’t inherently bad. What’s risky isn’t the telling of a routine, but how it’s delivered.

Let’s examine step by step what he did right.

  • Alpha body language. A girl laying on the ground is preselected for the submission position. If you are standing over her, she will feel in her bones this dominance dynamic, and it will be good.
  • Props. Having a camera with him served as a prop to break the ice with the girl.
  • Nuclear neg. The best negs are those that most radically overturn expectation while remaining plausibly complimentary or judgmentally neutral. She thinks he’s a weirdo who wants a pic of her suntanned bod; instead he politely grabs her hand (early kino – good move) to move her aside so he can take a pic of her rumpled beach towel.
  • NLP mastery. “drawn to something” “just had to look twice” “beauty in ordinary things”. This shit is straight outta speed seduction. I always thought SS sounded too hammy for real world use, but this guy shows how to spit SS game like a normal human being. Hint: Brevity is key.
  • DHVing. Photography is chick crack. The photographer and his tools of trade are the medium through which a chick’s ego can ricochet and amplify itself, as she projects her fascination and frustrations with her most valuable asset — her looks — onto the Sauronic eye of the camera lens.
  • Rapport bait. When he tells her that photography teaches you to notice things you would not otherwise, she can’t help but take the bait wondering what he noticed about her and her stuff. Perfect springboard.
  • Situational awareness. He notices two empty towels and uses that information to intensify the seduction.
  • Takeaway/push-pull. She laughs at his book line and thus becomes more invested in the conversation; at which point he dismisses himself, but not before dropping some more rapport bait (“there are so many interesting things to see and do around here”).
  • Challenge/qualification. “Everything can be an inspiration if you’ve got the right attitude.” Does she have the right attitude?
  • Dominance display. “Oh, I can’t just leave my friends’ stuff.” “SURE YOU CAN.”
  • Social savviness/situational awareness/leadership DHV. He notices our alert reader and employs her stuff-watching services, but not before flattering her so that he can better make the sale.

After a clinic like that in how to properly run game, very few girls wouldn’t be creaming their bikinis a little bit. I should also point out that this whole conversation, judging by the number of words, looks to have lasted no more than five or ten minutes. That’s five minutes of tight game from totally random meeting to walking away together for an instadate. Does anyone here still doubt the power of game? If you do, you are just looking for excuses to continue failing. And that, my friend, brands you with the scarlet L of the loser.

PS It would be funny if this post’s title duped a bunch of people to come here hoping for information on smashball and frisbees.

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  1. on June 3, 2010 at 11:18 am greatbooksformen

    nice! definitely a cr story! cr i would not be suproised if roissy ahs degrees in psychology and literature but mostly i think he is just a natural as you can’t so seasily teach a keen sense of observation otherwise all the psychology grad students i’ve dated would be as smart and fun as cr but mostly they’re just flat out crazy lzozlzlzllzozlzl

    yes smashball and frisbee is teh only way i’ve ever scored chicks on the beach as when the frisbee hits her in the butt i can abologize as i rubb it going sorry sorry does thsi feel better? lzozlzllzl what’s your number? i will call and check up on your butt later i promise lzozlzlllz

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  2. on June 3, 2010 at 11:34 am dc

    “sure you can” is GOLD

    “sure WE can” is better (but doesn’t always fit)

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  3. on June 3, 2010 at 11:35 am Willy Wonka

    Damn, this dude killed it. He played that shit to perfection. Makes you wonder how well the rest of the day went with the instadate and all….

    “PS It would be funny if this post’s title duped a bunch of people to come here hoping for information on smashball and frisbees.”

    Lmao.

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  4. on June 3, 2010 at 11:35 am msexceptiontotherule

    Ok, so marylou-greatbooksformen has a very obvious obsession with all things butt-related.

    weirdo.

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  5. on June 3, 2010 at 11:39 am ExtraStout

    My beach game consists of the following:

    1. Scope out a spot close to some girls, but not TOO close.

    2. Ignore them.

    3. At some point, approach them and ask if they will watch my stuff for me. I have to run to the car. I leave a backpack with them.

    4. Return 10 minutes later and thank them. Tease them and ask if they looked through my bag. The funny part is I already know if they did because I keep a special prop in there and they’re already laughing if they saw it…..I’d tell you but…. I can’t give up all my secrets to Roissy-land.

    5. Do some standard DHV + neg game, and phone number close.

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  6. on June 3, 2010 at 11:42 am The Truth

    Cool story. Definitely a lot of material there for anyone who cares to dig deeper. Wonder if he escalated further and got a makeout or a lay.

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  7. on June 3, 2010 at 11:45 am PA

    This reminds me of my classic beach game comment from a post that no longer exists. At that age I had all the right instincts, but none of the camera guys’ mastery.

    When I was 13 my friend’s mom took me and him to the beach in Ocean City, MD. He and I were hanging out, and see a couple of hot older girls in bikinis sun-tanning nearby.

    One girl in particular got our attention… brown bikini top and bottom, long dirty-blonde hair, as I recall. Reading a book. Her girlfriends (including a fat cow) were a few feet away, talking with each other.

    My buddy and I get into a cockfight: arguing (in hushed tones) over which one of us saw the “brown bilkni” girl first. I was by no means a natural, or a pick up artist, mind you. In fact, I was crippled by shyness due to my awkward too-tall-puberty-lankiness and foreign accent. (My buddy was American, no accent)

    But arguing with the dude got me motivated; I partly wanted to show off and show him up, and partly felt the adrenaline surging, since our antagonism to one another started spiking.

    So, I did the exact opposite of what I would normally do in this situation: I got up, and walked up to this girl.

    It was the early 1980s. I was as cool as I they come: Risky Business sunglasses (cheap knockoff brand), jams bathing shorts, and a subdued mullet – not full-out white trash, just a hint of one. And a peachfuzz moustache – shazzam!

    So I stand over this girl, and say “Hi”

    She looks up at me, and says hi back. Not hostile, just mild-friendly neutral. I tell her my name, she tells me hers. I asked her how old she is (mind you, at 13 years old that’s as smooth as I was gonna be.)

    She said that she is 19. I was a bit encouraged by her apparent friendliness. But, I wasn’t too sure what to say next. I was staring at her bod, trying to smile, and trying to keep the conversation going while feeling something getting fat in my swim trunks.

    We exchanged a few other words, I don’t remember what at this point, and I went back to my buddy. Like a conqueror.

    He was completely blanched. Jaw agape. He couldn’t believe his eyes, that I actually went up and made a move on an older woman.

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  8. on June 3, 2010 at 11:49 am PA

    NLP mastery. “drawn to something” “just had to look twice” “beauty in ordinary things”. […] I always thought SS sounded too hammy for real world use, but this guy shows how to spit SS game like a normal human being.

    I immediately thought of the wierdo dude in “American Beauty” who was videotaping the plastic bag in the wind. But hey, it worked for him too.

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  9. on June 3, 2010 at 11:50 am greatbooksformen

    never have so many women fought so corageously in the neocon’s preemptive war against the unborn, boldly spreading their legs to have living fetuses ripped form tehir wombs.

    lzozllzlzlzozlzzollzl!!

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  10. on June 3, 2010 at 12:12 pm greatbooksformen

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article7142478.ece

    the neocons are planning more secrtive tapings of butthex without the girlths conthhent!! lzozlzlzlzlz

    “”It is all terribly confidential — breathe a word about it and you’re out of the club — but the Bilderberg watcher Daniel Estulin claims to have a copy of the agenda. The big question this time around is whether the euro will survive. “They are afraid that the countries in trouble will leave and the euro will fall apart,” said Mr Estulin. “The biggest nightmare is if EU members return to nationally orientated policies and butthex in the open as opposed to secretive tapings of butthex without the girlths conthent. lzozlzlzllzlz.””

    butthex!!!

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  11. on June 3, 2010 at 12:13 pm Smoke

    PA got it right. It’s American Beauty Bag Video (ABBV) game.

    “Sometimes there’s so much beauty in the world I feel like I can’t take it, like my heart’s going to cave in. “

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  12. on June 3, 2010 at 12:17 pm Flahute

    I find it remarkable that the girl who sent the email could remember his pickup word for word and fill in all the non-verbal stuff. Who is she Jack Kerouac or something?

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  13. on June 3, 2010 at 12:21 pm Backdoor Man

    Another thing the guy did right: “Do you mind sort of keeping an eye on this stuff until her friends get back?”

    He didn’t say when “we” get back or “she” gets back, but rather when “her friends” get back. It’s a small, but powerful difference in meaning.

    Incidentally, it sounds as if it took less than 5-10 minutes. Shit, it sounds like 2 minutes.

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  14. on June 3, 2010 at 12:21 pm Usually Lurking

    I find it remarkable that the girl who sent the email could remember his pickup word for word and fill in all the non-verbal stuff. Who is she Jack Kerouac or something?

    Girls love this shit.

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  15. on June 3, 2010 at 12:47 pm Jules Verne

    Flahute has a good point. It amazes me that people who post reports and shit remember every single goddamn word.

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  16. on June 3, 2010 at 12:48 pm Riff Dog

    This is great stuff. Kudos to Andrea for a great retelling.

    It’s not for beginners, though. Body language and delivery would have to top notch, otherwise a routine like this could wind up making you look like “Weird Creepy Guy” rather than “Interesting Artistic Guy.”

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  17. on June 3, 2010 at 12:50 pm walawala

    “HER: Oh, I can’t just leave my friends’ stuff and everything.
    HIM: Sure you can.”

    I get this far and begin walking with the chick and often get resistance.

    I don’t want to seem creepy and weird so I will if pressed just find a way to say “ok, another time”.

    There must be a better way.

    I wonder where the line is between when a girl is genuinely saying “no” and is shit-testing you.

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  18. on June 3, 2010 at 12:52 pm polymath

    GBFM,

    Don’t despair. That graph only rising with PP’s market share. The total yearly number has dropped from 1.6M to 1.2M in the last 2 decades because the generation getting pregnant now grew up realizing they could have been aborted and seeing ultrasounds of their baby siblings, so they are (just barely) pro-life.

    Of course this is still a 9/11 every day, so there’s a lot of work to do, but some hope.

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  19. on June 3, 2010 at 12:53 pm Willy Wonka

    @Jules Verne

    Those of you who are amazed by that must have some suck ass memory or something….

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  20. on June 3, 2010 at 12:54 pm Willy Wonka

    “I wonder where the line is between when a girl is genuinely saying “no” and is shit-testing you.”

    Just think along the lines that they’re never genuinely saying “no”, they’re always shit-testing you.

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  21. on June 3, 2010 at 12:55 pm kaikou

    I love this story! This guy could get anyone: witty, funny, probably not a ugg-o.
    I love American Beauty! The movie is all about dominance and sexuality! Yes!

    @PA – nice long ass story
    @ Flahute – girls are observant especially when a hot confident guy is around. 😀
    @GBFM – so where do you live?

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  22. on June 3, 2010 at 12:57 pm polymath

    Andrea, did you ask your friend whether they came back or not?

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  23. on June 3, 2010 at 12:58 pm Hughman

    One of my ‘colleagues’ (guy in the year above) ran palm reading game on the hottest girls in the club (naturally they were with me, hehe)

    They ate it up like a crack whore would eat up crack. Textbook stuff.

    Quizzed him afterwards – he ahd jsut read the Game a few days earlier. Not that he needed it, the guy is a natural but lacks faith in himself. And I may have finally found myself a wing in this town.

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  24. on June 3, 2010 at 1:15 pm josh

    I bet he has this same conversation over and over all summer long. This is hilarious.

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  25. on June 3, 2010 at 1:53 pm greatbooksformen

    i live on the south coast of france most of da time but this summer i am in new england lzozlzlzlzllz and on the vineyard lzolzlzllzlolll

    yah i know dah neocn butthexers aas they are my best firneds and i am often in meetings where we r planning to butthex the epople in secrete with fiat dolalrs lzozlzlzlz because we klnow the poeple do not care about getting butthexed in secrete as long as we give them bread, butthex stroires, and circuses lollozlzlzl

    most meetnings end with our lead lady ceo sayig, “let them eat butthex!!”

    lzozozlzl and we all go “amen to that!”

    otehrwise we woudl not be invinted back lzozlzl

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  26. on June 3, 2010 at 2:15 pm Cap'n Bob

    Usuallylurking –
    “I find it remarkable that the girl who sent the email could remember his pickup word for word and fill in all the non-verbal stuff. Who is she Jack Kerouac or something?”

    If it’s really memorable, people can recall stuff in dazzling detail (probably not verbatim though). Terrific example of game, and somehow makes Ross Jeffrey’s stuff seem a little less Vincent-Pricey.

    -Polymath

    -“Of course this is still a 9/11 every day, so there’s a lot of work to do, but some hope.”

    Reckon the Big A will become a lot less frequent in the following years – it’s becoming a lot less socially acceptable.

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  27. on June 3, 2010 at 2:17 pm Ronin

    A tune you will never hear on the fiat supported air waves.

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  28. on June 3, 2010 at 2:24 pm kaikou

    @GBFM
    Why are all the hotties East Coasters?

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  29. on June 3, 2010 at 2:25 pm SGOTI

    The force is strong with this young dickslinger. He may as well go whole hog and become a lifeguard and get paid for getting laid.

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  30. on June 3, 2010 at 2:27 pm Anonymous

    cockas!

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  31. on June 3, 2010 at 2:33 pm greatbooksformen

    all wat hotties kaikou?

    east coast west coast france alol good yah even irelan

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  32. on June 3, 2010 at 2:34 pm greatbooksformen

    yah

    cockas!!!!

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  33. on June 3, 2010 at 2:38 pm The Rookie

    The best part about this is, the female reader offering this, saying to the whole world that this is how girls want to be picked up on the beach. If you doubt game, the fact that the reader said this guy was “so pro” should let you know that every girl wants this. Give them what they really want.

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  34. on June 3, 2010 at 2:43 pm dc

    @ josh: he gets laid over and over all summer long too

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  35. on June 3, 2010 at 2:56 pm Stud Dynamite

    well, it is sure is impressive, NLP and all, and sure will work on a worldly “quality girl”. In fact could be useful to screen for quality, ’cause for your average dumb slut you’d talk like a fag and you shit would be all retarded.
    Back when me and my friends ran beach game as teens in the sunny old country, “hey girls how you doing, let’s hang out” was more than enough. That’s what they’re there for too.
    Of course as a (greater) beta in the making I didn’t game/escalate much further, so results weren’t that great. But as far as opening, there’s nothing to it. Cockas 8)

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  36. on June 3, 2010 at 3:16 pm Lupo Leboucher

    Nice. On another topic often raised here:

    http://www.techeye.net/hardware/pornstar-assets-will-push-3d-telly

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  37. on June 3, 2010 at 3:17 pm Whatever

    Straight Awesome.

    I hope he’s got a shore house or something fun planned for later. The attention span of girls down the shore can be pretty quick…. His game was as tight as it gets, so I’m sure after a long walk on the beach he’ll be just fine.

    He also has the SUPREME follow up date excuse. Have her come over to check out the prints, studio, his other works, etc.

    This guy is loving life and whatever game book he read.

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  38. on June 3, 2010 at 3:21 pm Roosh

    Flahute: Girls are wired to remember conversations better than men. They remind me of things I said years ago, and while it sounds like me, I have no recollection of even the meeting.

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  39. on June 3, 2010 at 3:39 pm The G Manifesto

    Key moment of the swoop:

    “HIM: Well, I’m off. There are so many interesting things to see and do around here. It was nice to meet you.
    HER: Like what things?
    HIM: Everything can be an inspiration if you’ve got the right attitude. If you’d like, you’re welcome to come with me and maybe we’ll find some. Good company always helps.”

    Good gamble on the take away. His first line “Well, I’m off. ..” was kind of a trial close/take away of sorts. He could have lost it all here as well.

    Then she bit: “Like what things?” (Here is when he had her. When a girl bites, it can be real stylish to pause heavy here. For suspense.)

    Then he closed strong: “If you’d like, you’re welcome to come with me and maybe we’ll find some. Good company always helps.”

    To get it, you have to be willing to risk it all.

    – MPM

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  40. on June 3, 2010 at 3:42 pm Timitz

    This is gold, I will be using this technique in the future.

    Does anyone else have beach game tips? I just moved to florida and I’ll be on the beach a lot. More ideas would be welcome.

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  41. on June 3, 2010 at 3:51 pm Whatever

    @ Timitz

    Tip number one is hit the gym hard.

    Obvious, but still the single best thing you can do to help yourself at the beach (and in general).

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  42. on June 3, 2010 at 4:04 pm jkc

    damn, kudos to beach dude, he really knew his shit.

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  43. on June 3, 2010 at 4:05 pm Dat_Truth_Hurts

    Also try not to have a boner. Those are hard to hide in swim trunks. Trust me.

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  44. on June 3, 2010 at 4:42 pm the realist

    ME: “Do you mind taking a foto for me? wait, let me stand back a bit i want you to get the abs in full-frame”

    Girl:”lozlozlz i can’t believe you, you crazy”

    ME: “You likey da cockas??”

    Fear not if you can’t pull off the artsy-super douche act with a straight face. This demonstrates how game is not content dependant, all about body language and confidence. The dude pulls this off with swagger considering his supposed “hobby” is totally lame, and if the girl is hot, totally transparent as well. some women do eat this shit up, It’s a niche market however.

    Lesson: always ply bullshit discretely and at appropriate targets, otherwise Alphas, intelligent and funny people will disgrace you for it. I know lots of douche men(including myself) and cock-blocker women who could have made this guy look and feel like a complete tool with anything from a giggle to blatant ridicule. Theres a fine line between being interesting and completely lame, confidence and dominance will take you to the interesting side.

    G Manifesto hit the nail on the head. Where he really kills it is where he risks it all as he’s about to leave, he bet on having done enough to keep her interested and curious and it worked out.

    “Tip number one is hit the gym hard.

    Obvious, but still the single best thing you can do to help yourself at the beach (and in general).”

    Good advice. i notice “andrea” didn’t give an objective assesment of either the guys appearance or the girls. I can bagg 5s, 6s and even 7s at the beach just by being there topless. So we need more info to get a better picture of the exact depth of game here. Something tells me “andrea” might just be the guy or the girl in the scenario, either that or the rain mans retarded little sister.

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  45. on June 3, 2010 at 4:50 pm Human Nature

    HIM: Well, I’m off. There are so many interesting things to see and do around here.

    It’s amazing how well that walks the line between veiled invitation and subtle put-down.

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  46. on June 3, 2010 at 5:03 pm The Rational Male

    G- “Good gamble on the take away. His first line “Well, I’m off. ..” was kind of a trial close/take away of sorts. He could have lost it all here as well.”

    I was thinking the same thing. I would bet that his conversion rate at this point is relatively low, but the payoff with the ones who do bite is high.

    Playing the takeaway like this is certainly a gamble, but it sounds like he only invested less than five minutes in the interaction, so even if the conversion rate is 25%, all he has to do is find a mile long stretch of beach and hit up 4 girls with a similar line and he’s in.

    Totally impressive from start to finish, btw.

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  47. on June 3, 2010 at 5:04 pm The Rational Male

    I meant to say, “A similar routine”.

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  48. on June 3, 2010 at 5:07 pm vomlox

    This post will be irrelevant in a few years thanks to Obama’s brilliant decision to deregulate offshore drilling.

    It’s the end of the world as we know it~~~

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  49. on June 3, 2010 at 5:09 pm The G Manifesto

    The Rational Male,

    “I was thinking the same thing. I would bet that his conversion rate at this point is relatively low, but the payoff with the ones who do bite is high.”

    The beauty of these kinds of take-away’s is the are also qualifiers.

    A more interested/interesting, cooler, more social girl will bite.

    Weesher, more socially challenged, less confident girls will not.

    Smooth.

    – MPM

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  50. on June 3, 2010 at 5:21 pm El Gringo Loco

    @ the realist

    I’d also be curious to get an objective appearance rating for both the guy and the girl. Like it or not, this does matter. Somebody else said that the hotter the girl, the more transparent this kind of up-front, douchey aestheticism is, and that’s true too. If the girl girl is a 7+ or higher you’re pretty much banking on her being receptive to artsy game. On the other hand, in your major urban centers all but the most Philistine girls either are or – what amounts to the same thing and can even provide you with more leverage – feel that they should be.

    @ Stud Dynamite

    Nice Idiocracy reference. That scene is hilarious and captures all too well where we are right now, let alone where we will be after another few decades/centuries of semi-literacy.

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  51. on June 3, 2010 at 5:36 pm Whatever

    Being the artist wandering the beach looking for inspiration and beauty is extremely difficult to pull off properly as this guy did. Def not for any rookies who haven’t sharpened their inner and outer game.

    I know what he would be up against if he hit certain hotspots at the Jersey Shore with that routine. One sign of weakness and he would be dunzo.

    Massive amounts of composure and confidence is needed, as well as a deep belief in his work, at least on the outside. His belief in his work has to be so strong that he would be unrattled and almost confused that someone would not share his vision.

    Plus he needs the right look….. No one is pulling girls away for a stroll on the beach wearing watershoes and a Super Mario Bros. T-shirt two sizes too big

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  52. on June 3, 2010 at 5:37 pm Ovid

    @G Manifesto,

    Yes, but how do you wear a custom made suit on the beach?

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  53. on June 3, 2010 at 5:51 pm The G Manifesto

    Ovid,

    “Yes, but how do you wear a custom made suit on the beach?”

    It can be done at night, Miami Beach style.

    However my “on the beach” style is West Coast, southern ca.

    Just because I wear custom suits doesn’t mean I can’t pull into grinding barrels on beachbreaks. And hit the lip on the reefs.

    Don’t get it twisted. I grew up on the beach.

    – MPM

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  54. on June 3, 2010 at 6:06 pm Flahute

    I also like how the photo guy’s whole pickup is a remedy for her boredom. His neg before the takeway is that she is not living life to the fullest (you’re just lying here reading a book while your friends are playing in the water). This makes her feel bad about herself, and then he offers the solution to feel better: to go with him and look for inspiration, to see the beauty in life. Brilliant.

    So all you haters of Game just shut your hole. This is a prime example that when a woman follows a man’s lead (a man with game), it makes her life a whole lot more interesting.

    Plus the squirting orgasms of course.

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  55. on June 3, 2010 at 6:15 pm greatbooksformen

    omg lzolzlzzlzl

    i think i just found out the bestest comment section that out lzozlzlzlzlzlzles my lzolzlzlz0zozlzozoz

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    soon the womenz will be the ideal fiat master robots, serving teh fed durng eighty hour weeks and tempting and taking from men both druing work and after hours wheterh tehy get married or just play games lzozlzlz

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  56. on June 3, 2010 at 6:26 pm Ovid

    “Don’t get it twisted. I grew up on the beach.”

    OK, I gotchya G-Man.

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  57. on June 3, 2010 at 7:23 pm Original JB

    “This post will be irrelevant in a few years thanks to Obama’s brilliant decision to deregulate offshore drilling.”

    Must be another sad example of millenial ignorance.

    “Deregulate” isn’t a synonym for “fucking incompetence or neglect in enforcing existing regulations.”

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  58. on June 3, 2010 at 7:50 pm Grampa

    Just standing here in awe, with my mouth gaping open.

    Geeez….

    Now, where is my old brownie pin hole camera? (An authentic camera!) That’ll fetch’im.

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  59. on June 3, 2010 at 8:04 pm JB

    US mint runs out of gold blanks for coins…

    GBFM’s reality is a’ catchin up.

    Guess we’ve run out of souls for new women as well. Sending the value of the few women who still have them skyrocketing. For those who are smart investors, that is.

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  60. on June 3, 2010 at 8:23 pm OneSTDV

    I’ve accepted Game for quite some time now. But it still somewhat amazes me how easily manipulated women can be.

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  61. on June 3, 2010 at 8:33 pm namae nanka

    Our society is tending towards the tiger model, where men and women compete, spot the beta and the alpha.
    Mane does make a difference, natural beard game.

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  62. on June 3, 2010 at 8:43 pm TG

    Wow…NO ONE mentioned the obvious….

    BE IN SHAPE…that’s 80% of beach game

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  63. on June 3, 2010 at 9:10 pm Anonymouses Anonymous

    The number of times I have ran similar game, but failed to push through with a “Sure you can.”

    Now I know and will improve.

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  64. on June 3, 2010 at 9:27 pm Admiral

    “as she projects her fascination and frustrations with her most valuable asset — her looks”

    You must be mellowing, Roisy. You used to say that a girl’s v@gina was her most valuable asset…

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  65. on June 3, 2010 at 10:10 pm Badger Nation

    Ronin,

    Nice post, Liz Phair is cash money. In fact her album “Exile In Guyville” (from which Fuck And Run is taken) was my first introduction to the truth about female sexuality.

    She opened the door for 90’s chick music, but she’s not like those self-loathing whiny Lilith Fair artists (Tori Amos I’m taking to you). I highly recommend aspiring gamers to get the record.

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  66. on June 3, 2010 at 10:16 pm Lemmy

    Prospects aren’t good for east coast beach game this season.

    http://www.dailycamera.com/boulder-county-news/ci_15219073

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  67. on June 3, 2010 at 10:42 pm Cap'n Bob

    This summer, there’s going to be Oil Slick game – you can pose as all concerned for the sea gulls and other winged vermin.

    Or Gaza flotilla game – spend time on a rackety trawler with a bunch of euro-lefty broads and some “opinionated” Turks. Funny thing is, that kind of female often has morals that Hamas would not approve of.

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  68. on June 3, 2010 at 10:45 pm walawala

    “Sure you can”….

    At what point do you relent with dignity?

    This would seem to me like Last Minute Resistance.

    Recently I was dancing with a very attractive girl. The song ended. We stood staring at each other.

    She was about to walk away and I tried Domination Game.

    I stood there, held her hand and said: “This is one of my favorite songs, it’s one of the most beautiful, let’s dance.”

    She hemmed and hawed about having promised some other bloke.

    I stood there looking….not staring…holding hand, slight smile.

    “Tempting….” she smiled.

    I just started dancing.

    Yes….you need to feel the cues and listen.

    The “Tempting” was the giveaway that my game was working.

    The pausing. The look into her eyes implied a deeper meaning to the whole thing than another whip around the dance floor.

    Not sure if I used the NLP markers in domination game: “beautiful”…”my favorite…” “let’s dance”…

    At other times…when I’ve walked away after this pausing…the next time I’ve met up the woman was much more receptive to my gaming her.

    Still trying to figure out how to break through that resistance without being over-bearing…

    Any tactics?

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  69. on June 3, 2010 at 11:25 pm brapp

    FUCKING EPIC

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  70. on June 3, 2010 at 11:36 pm PA

    Got a thought sparked by Ferdinand Bardamu’s post on hot Latvian women on his blog In Mala Fide. It’s an idea in progress, not fully formed yet. Kinda wannted to throw it out there here as well, and this is what I posted at In Mala Fide, with some edits here:

    The concept of hotness is part of the problem. What we have in many white countries is (1) a hot female elite adored by all and fucked by the elect few, and uselessly childless; (2) a superubiquity of disgusting fat pigs and vulgar masculinized uggs, and (3) a very small number of thin but not hot normal women, whose egos are inflated due to their scarcity. This is America. Is Latvia headed there too?

    I’m thinking of growing up in 70s Eastern Europe, and I’ve seen lots of EE movies from that time, and the 80s, and watched many of them later as an adult. Very few hot women in those movies. Say, when you watch The Decalogue (Poland, 1988), none of the women in the ten mini-films are Latvian-blonde-hot. But you’d wanna fuck most of them anyway. They looked like women, not idols, and they had an earthiness, character about them. This seems to match the observed reality in EE at the time, for me.

    EE pop singers pre-90s, for example, are rarely hot. Beautiful in a “real woman” sort of way in many cases, often very talented, but not hot. Today, every female singer coming out of EE is “Latvian-hot.”

    I see a link between the deification of hot women and plummetting fertility. Being a useless object of adoration, or a repulsive malformed fat she-human. That is what Western women have become. This must be reversed.

    No more hot women.

    (do note that at no point did I disparage beautiful women. Beauty not the same as hot)

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  71. on June 3, 2010 at 11:52 pm ahappinessexperiment

    “She was about to walk away and I tried Domination Game.

    I stood there, held her hand and said: “This is one of my favorite songs, it’s one of the most beautiful, let’s dance.””

    Try not using the word beautiful. Not too Dom sounding. Might work with Sub game tho.

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  72. on June 4, 2010 at 12:25 am Virginia Gentleman

    Badger Nation:

    Exile in Guyville, and the vast majority of her early work, is really great stuff. I’ve liked her since the late 1990s; pity I haven’t ever been in a position to see her in an intimate venue. Hopefully there’s another album in the works.

    As for camera game, this is some good material even if it doesn’t really lead to more. I really ought to try it more often, since I’ve got the camera, plus sufficient gear, and can more or less bluff my way through on this or that artistic position.

    Combine that with an ability to demonstrate concern for the condition of the Atlantic coast courtesy of our friends at BP, and the eventual beach trip could be profitable.

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  73. on June 4, 2010 at 12:39 am Gorbachev

    @ahappinessexperiment

    Try not using the word beautiful. Not too Dom sounding. Might work with Sub game tho.

    What the hell is sub game?

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  74. on June 4, 2010 at 12:42 am Gorbachev

    This is a great example of tight game.

    But I’d note something: A camera or video camera and an actual job with cameras is liquid gold to game.

    I know. It’s exactly what someone needs.

    But you need to have a clear idea: without it, you end up falling flat. Either it’s your job, or you have a specific project, or whatever; much better if it’s real.

    If you have this, playing it up is only natural.

    But this guy really was textbook, every element. Game across as a trustable, nice guy, too.

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  75. on June 4, 2010 at 12:44 am Gorbachev

    And for domination game,

    I have a report on domination game. When played hard, it’s incredible.

    Can’t use it on the beach, though.

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  76. on June 4, 2010 at 12:53 am z

    Citizen Renegade,

    Speaking of beach game, whaddya bet that gambling-trust-fund-beach-bum Joran van der Sloot will be recieving mail in Chile from women who tingle for the two-time-killer? He broke this last little gal’s neck, but I bet that wont stop plenty of hypergamous-twittering-magpies from attempting to tweet and “twirt” with him.

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  77. on June 4, 2010 at 1:12 am Ronin

    Badger Nation

    Much respect to you and all here. A lot of flicks and music pre-fiat had plenty of game info to decipher.

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  78. on June 4, 2010 at 1:14 am ahappinessexperiment

    “EE pop singers pre-90s, for example, are rarely hot. Beautiful in a “real woman” sort of way in many cases, often very talented, but not hot. Today, every female singer coming out of EE is “Latvian-hot.””

    interesting observation. could it simply be the emphasis on video now vs. the music? the same thing could be said for american singers. janis joplin was once a superstar for instance.

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  79. on June 4, 2010 at 1:17 am Vike

    Roissy = THE MAN. (giving you 98% of broad spectrum of game, with consistent drill-downs along the continuum. NO better fundamental resource (not to mention price-point). outstanding written word.)

    GBFM = golden riot. (omg. listen to him fellows, as he’s giving you the other 50%, the non-game 50%, but every bit as important to your life as “game.” llollzloz.)

    xsplat = platinum wisdom. (listen to him fellows, as he’s giving you the final 2% of highly advanced game that you will not find in pricey info products. zen grasp of sexual energetic dynamics. grasp xsplat, and you can skip “game,” entirely.)

    From a non-community-oriented person (this being the ONLY blog I give a shit about), love the blog, love its community, love the people–newbies to advanced.

    Personal thanks to you, Roissy, for your noble service, and the honorable character with which you provide it.

    To all the haters–grab sack and love, yo.

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  80. on June 4, 2010 at 1:18 am Ronin

    STDV

    “I’ve accepted Game for quite some time now. But it still somewhat amazes me how easily manipulated women can be.”

    Nah. They yearn to be manipulated.

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  81. on June 4, 2010 at 1:22 am ahappinessexperiment

    @ Vike
    nice math

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  82. on June 4, 2010 at 1:31 am Gorbachev

    Women love game.

    You make yourself desirable by using it.

    Ignore feminist theory. Be an equal, and the women won’t want you.

    Feminists rail against this: But they fuck the bad boys.

    They’re the worst for this. It’s only Alphas they want. They’re freed to experience the purity if their desire, and their desire says: alpha.

    Just ignore what women say. Give them game and they like you more.

    In general.

    (They may rail at it intellectually, but you’re not dealing with their brains. Or, not their forebrains, anyway).

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  83. on June 4, 2010 at 1:35 am Biting Beaver

    Latvia Blonde Parade. I kid you not.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/03/latvias-blonde-parade-hop_n_599704.html#s96381

    This is sooo sexist.

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  84. on June 4, 2010 at 2:01 am ahappinessexperiment

    Coke Game: hey, i’ve always got coke at my place.

    you can use that as both your opener and closer.

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  85. on June 4, 2010 at 2:06 am rebelliousvanilla

    I’m renting a professional camera and lenses with $50 an hour, just so you people know. lol

    Leaving joking aside, I recall certain conversations from years ago. This made me recall something kind of funny that a friend did. We had this ‘free hugs campaign’ in which a group of weirdos have posters on which it says free hugs and they come and hug you.

    There so that you people get the picture. Anyway, I was walking down the street with a friend and this girl comes up to him to hug him and he told her that her hugs might be free, but he is a professional huger, so he charges people. But that he’ll make her a deal and let her hug him if she will buy him a coffee. At that point in time I was about to crack up, but his move had success, so I just told him that I will call him later.

    There are two ways to win a girl over: humour or dominance. To be a master, you use both. For example, my father isn’t a really dominant person, but he is likable and charismatic and due to this women are comfortable with him. It’s kind of creepy when your 17 years old classmates tell you that your 50 years old father is ‘cute’ though. lol

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  86. on June 4, 2010 at 2:18 am ahappinessexperiment

    rebel, here’s the guy charging for professional hugs. it’s pretty fucking funny.

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  87. on June 4, 2010 at 2:42 am Vincent Ignatius

    God damn that’s good game. I don’t live near the beach but this can probably be used anywhere. See a chick sitting outside a cafe drinking a coffee, use the same line and pull her up off her chair to take a pic of the mug sitting on an empty table.

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  88. on June 4, 2010 at 3:30 am kaikou

    @gbfm

    I love Ireland. I need to go there soon. I am glad u see hotties everywhere u go. I am not so lucky. Cockas ❤

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  89. on June 4, 2010 at 3:57 am SDaedalus

    Being the artist wandering the beach looking for inspiration and beauty is extremely difficult to pull off properly as this guy did. Def not for any rookies who haven’t sharpened their inner and outer game.

    I agree. This one is not a runner for guys starting out.
    I accept it does have aspirational value for guys starting out, insofar as it shows what is possible with game. But I would hate to see some poor kid try this out verbatim, crash & burn, decide as a result he would never be any good at Game, and give up hope of ever getting a girl.

    I do understand that it can be difficult to perform the sometimes conflictlng objectives of providing a forum for high-level Gamers to compare notes while on the other hand providing assistance to the novice Gamer.

    Perhaps a CR ranking of examples given according to the game level required e.g.
    works for basic entrant
    medium grade
    advanced
    might be of assistance, or maybe a short summary of what a basic entrant could take away from this example (clearly he is never going to have the body language etc. to pull it off from start to finish, this one is for a Master of Game).

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  90. on June 4, 2010 at 4:05 am SDaedalus

    @GBFM
    all wat hotties kaikou?

    east coast west coast france alol good yah even irelan

    For some reason I never associated you with Ireland GBFM. Do tell.

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  91. on June 4, 2010 at 5:15 am Paul

    I’ve been to Ireland and didn’t find so many aforementioned hotties. Its probably better now than in December when I was there, however.

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  92. on June 4, 2010 at 5:47 am CW

    Joe Rogan kicks ass. P.S. photography really is chick crack. You have the ability to boost their ego through the roof.

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  93. on June 4, 2010 at 5:48 am CW

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  94. on June 4, 2010 at 6:18 am sdaedalus

    Paul, I’m still in shock myself at Ireland being mentioned.

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  95. on June 4, 2010 at 7:08 am Stone

    Here’s what I used to do at the beach (before I got married):
    – stay in shape, dye my hair blond, trim my chest hair (are you here Roosh?)
    – walk up and down the beach smoking a cigarette (tribute to G – although I had not seen his blog then)
    – carry a beach volley ball and asking girl whether they want to join me and my buddy to play

    Helped that the beach I used to go has volleyball fields every 200 yards or so, and is 3-4 miles long so you never run out of prospects.

    This guy was smooth, but I join the earlier commenters who said other factors might have closed the deal – such as him being good looking (and the girl not). Definitely not universal game. Better to stick to fundamentals (something along the lines above).

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  96. on June 4, 2010 at 8:34 am Badger Nation

    “Exile in Guyville, and the vast majority of her early work, is really great stuff. I’ve liked her since the late 1990s; pity I haven’t ever been in a position to see her in an intimate venue. Hopefully there’s another album in the works. ”

    Unfortunately, Liz Phair threw in with the fiat masters, took Avril Lavigne’s producer and released a shitty pop record (with the exception of the vintage-Phair “Hot White Cum”) and hasn’t been good since. It’s like being a real auteur wasn’t enough for her so she decided to market herself to the Kelly Clarkson-type teenybopper fanbase.

    She still looks great though.

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  97. on June 4, 2010 at 8:59 am Dilbert Hole

    I’ve never been to Ireland, and what I’ve seen of Irish women didn’t really wow me visually, excepting the rare celebrity cases such as the Corr sisters. Irish American women, however, have provided a greater hit rate for me, from the point of view of personal aesthetic, than just about any group. It might have to do with the likelihood of Italian and German admixture. Whatever the case may be, they’re rarely “Latvian blonde hot” and frequently “real woman beautiful” (in a nod to PA), they tend to have open, girlish features and large pretty eyes and, from my point of view, they’re an alluring combination of exotic and familiar. Sort of like Czech girls with their germanic note dialed back a bit.

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  98. on June 4, 2010 at 9:49 am Dr. Grzlickson

    “Girls are wired to remember conversations better than men.”

    Men have to worry about thinking about conversation topics, making them interesting, and a million other things. Women just sit back and judge so they can remember much more easily.

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  99. on June 4, 2010 at 10:26 am Schmoe

    I thought this was going to be a post about playing with tarballs.

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  100. on June 4, 2010 at 10:27 am polymath

    Yes, Liz Phair was important in revealing women’s real attitudes to me. Pat Benatar’s another good example from back in the day — I was listening to “Fire and Ice” in my car on the way in to work today, singing about classic push-pull game.

    Photography is great because with a little game you can get the girl to pose and gradually up the sexiness of the shots; and if you have a portfolio of nudes you have taken that qualifies you and she will often be willing to pose. One of my best friends in college played this game to perfection; I’ve got to write about him some day, he was an awesome combination of very high alpha and super high IQ nerd (he pulled hot graduate students and postdocs when he was a 16-year-old freshman).

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  101. on June 4, 2010 at 10:35 am paultheking

    Gorbachev is right.

    Girls are fucked up man…

    It sounds horrible but I treat my pet dog better than I treat

    most girls I’ve been with

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  102. on June 4, 2010 at 10:41 am Willy Wonka

    @paultheking

    That doesn’t sound horrible. You should treat your dog better.

    Dogs are more loyal and are genuinely just better people than most girls are.

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  103. on June 4, 2010 at 10:42 am sdaedalus

    @Dilbert
    Although no doubt I am biased, Irish women as a rule do have pretty faces, not necessarily that striking unless there is something else mixed in, but pretty and feminine with nice smiles (I dispute Welmer’s manjaw allegations as a general rule).

    But it has to be said that we are not as a race as slim as continental European women any more, the car & beer-drinking culture has a terrible lot to answer for here. Also, most Irish women are quite pale-skinned, this is definitely not to everyone’s taste, particularly Irish men, fake tan only goes so far and can make us look like oompa-loompas.

    Btw the pale skin & soft features was what made us so popular in the past, the late 20th century trend towards stronger, more striking features in women & a darker, more exotic look has not been great for us.

    The decline of the Irish brunette beauty (despite the Corrs’ best efforts) is another problem, so many striking Irish brunettes with white skin feel the need to do the platinum blonde/fake tan thing. This is probably due to the fact that this is the look Irish men tend to go for.

    Like you I think Irish works really well as an admixture (Grace Kelly and Katherine Heigl would be Irish-German examples, I can’t think of any Irish Italians off the top of my head but I am sure they would be very striking).

    The same applies to men btw. Both George Clooney & Robert Downey Junior have a good bit of Irish in them, but it is the something else that gives them the extra edge.

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  104. on June 4, 2010 at 11:09 am gig

    what is missing here is any comment at all about the guy’s physical appearance. there is a reason why beach cities tend to have people with better bodies.

    long time ago, Roissy was going after girls who wear flip-flops and I comm ented here that the thought that “flip=flops = laziness” is absolutely wrong whenever beach game is concerned

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  105. on June 4, 2010 at 11:17 am gig

    That doesn’t sound horrible. You should treat your dog better.

    does that involve kissing and fucking your dog?

    there is an ongoing debate here about which is more human: girls or dogs. I would like to remember that girls are able to give birth to human beings, to talk, to solve differential equations (at least they do it more easily than dogs) and, last but not least, girls are able, under some circunstances, to give you boners.

    Call me a feminist if you wish, but I am firmly on the side that girls aremore human than dogs

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  106. on June 4, 2010 at 11:38 am paultheking

    @willywonka

    Yeah I try not be a complete dickhead to the girls im seeing but honestly, im starting to think it might be smarter to just treat them even worse

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  107. on June 4, 2010 at 11:41 am Original JB

    Listening to Liz Phair will upset any beta, which is why they should be forced to listen to her.

    “I don’t need a support system
    Lifting me into prop position
    What I need is a man of action
    I need my attraction to you
    Driving me down all those dangerous avenues
    Lions and tigers tearing at their food”

    No beta providers need apply, she needs the tingles.

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  108. on June 4, 2010 at 12:01 pm greatbooksforfags

    Blah Blah buthsex (whats it like?)
    Blah blah neocons (im paranoid)
    Blah Blah tucker max (i wish i were him)
    Blah Blah abortion (I wish it were the 1950s still)
    Blah Blah my blog (Is anybody out there – please afirm me)

    —————————————————————————-

    GBFM – do f*ck off. Please.

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  109. on June 4, 2010 at 12:20 pm The Specimen

    Beach game in 4 words. Squats, sprints, bench, rows. Balls to the wall. Go heavy, go hard, or go home.

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  110. on June 4, 2010 at 12:53 pm Glengarry

    I find it remarkable that the girl who sent the email could remember his pickup word for word and fill in all the non-verbal stuff. Who is she Jack Kerouac or something?

    Oh, I laugh hollowly, ever heard of “he said, she said”. Your girlfriend is a high-fidelity recording machine that can and will replay things that you said and did months ago. They should Mirandize you on date one.

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  111. on June 4, 2010 at 1:00 pm Paul

    Paul #2,

    Its honestly mind blowing. I used to white knight (christian upbringing) and you could literally graph the relationship between the number of girls who were interested me and the meaner I was to the sex overall.

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  112. on June 4, 2010 at 1:37 pm rebelliousvanilla

    El Gringo Loco, I would figure it out that he is hitting on me, but it wouldn’t matter. As long as I’m feeling entertained, I would play along. The moment in which he’d bore me, I’d be out. But if he just wanted to bone a girl, he would have had an epic waste of time with me. lol. And since I do model a bit and I enjoy photography, if he’s not legit and he’d show me some shoddy shots and try to fool me, I’d figure it out. And I ridicule people that lie to me or treat me in a crappy way. It’s like a friend said about men fighting it out, while women rely on character assassination.

    Whatever, most men could improve the way they look easily since most don’t really care about them. I mean, even if they do, they are epic failures at asking for help to learn about it and getting out of their comfort zone.

    PA, that’s because Eastern European movies from that time weren’t made to be sold to sex-starved drones and they used real looking people(I know this from Romanian movies, they’re filled with average and below average looking people). I can find better looking people than those in our movies by taking a two minute walk outside. lol. And the deification of hot women is just a manifestation of sex outside marriage and sex worshiping. But hey, it works for me, I like being worshipped. Funny enough, Western European men and Americans are way more prone to do it.

    ahappinessexperiment, I’d so pay that dude $2 and let him hug me because his idea is hilarious. Sort of like beggars in my country that bark for money. I could charge more though, even in my country. Heck, making $36 an hour for hugging people is great money.

    Vincent, no, it wouldn’t work. I’d have a walk with the guy on the beach, but if I’d be at a coffee shop, I wouldn’t have a walk with you. You can ask her if the seat next to her is busy and if it’s not, just tell her to buy you a coffee so that you keep her company and play on that. It’s a lot better than trying to pull someone away from their table in a coffee shop considering they’re there to frigging have a coffee.

    CW, my bf’s brother is a DJ AND a photographer. Both professionally. The amount of pussy you can get is obscene if you are a DJ and you’re relatively well known. As he says about groupies, they actually suck his dick with their looks while in front of the DJ booth. I cracked up when he was talking about it.

    Stone, today I went to play some basketball and there is a volleyball field next to it. Lots of scantily clad good looking girls(at least body wise). I’m not usually envious of other girls, but one of them had some pretty flawless abs. I hate volleyball though, it’s one of the most retarded sports, if you ask me.

    Dr. Grzlickson, it’s quite pathetic then. If a man brings everything up in a chat and he can’t remember it while I do, it’s even worse. I mean, you think those things out and can’t remember them?

    The Specimen, you forgot curls and skull crushers. I like men with strong arms. 🙂 Probably because my boyfriend looks malnourished, but he refuses to listen to me and go to the gym with me. lol

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  113. on June 4, 2010 at 2:14 pm walawala

    I used this structure this evening in my Argentine dance party with positive results.

    Target: new dancer, late 20’s maybe early 30’s though dresses young and looks young. When I spoke to her, she was qualifying herself saying she was older but likes to be “a child”.

    I’d say a solid 7.5. Had never seen her before.

    I waited until midway through the night so she’d seen me on the floor with other women.

    Then at some point the guy dancing with her bumped into me dancing.

    I later used that as my opener:

    Me: If you’re going to bump into me, you need to make it up to me by dancing with me….

    Her: Surprised, laughs, “good idea…”

    Me; Are you Korean…me speaking the only Korean I know which translates as: “You’re very pretty”.

    Her: No I’m Chinese, but look Korean I guess. What’s that phrase mean?”

    Me: “You’re very pretty”. That and thank you are the only things I really need to know when I do my client work there.

    Her: Can I use that same phrase on you then?

    Me: Yes…

    I neg her about her outfit which looks like a kind of candy striper outfit with a funky Japanese t-shirt, short-shorts in denim cover-all style.

    We dance. I DHV her about being in South America and learning the dance.

    We dance several times. She’s giving me IOI’s.

    Her: “Wow…never realized this music has so many layers…thanks…”

    Me: These lessons aren’t free….

    Her: I’ll build up my credit

    Me: That won’t pay my bills….

    Her: Laughs…

    Me: There’s so many things about this music that I always discover, it’s always a mystery.

    Her: Like what blah blah blah…

    I shift locations, invite her for a cocktail with me with a special liquor I bring.

    I qualify her: she’s a former consultant, loves music, passionate about the “connection”= likes to fuck. Now an MBA student. Well-traveled, loves languages, good sense of humour. Good kino.

    We have drinks… She’s giving me doggie dinner bowl look.

    Now here’s where I think the cultural/Anti-slut device comes up.

    We spent the last hour hanging out. I’m doing dominance game. We’re both a little drunk off the stiff cocktails I’ve mixed.

    We dance one last time. The song ends…we pause. I give her the Javier Bardem look….she suddenly gives me bug hug…great meeting you, let’s meet up next week…I’ll see you at the party.

    I decide rather than pushing it to leave while attraction is high.

    I never number closed. I felt if she was coming out again anyway, I’ll meet her and sort her out then. That would eliminate any possible flake.

    We hold hands and then part.

    No kiss close on this one—-too many people and not appropriate for that culture.

    No number close—leave while the attraction is high

    Lots of good IOI’s….

    I think when running game….even dominance game in this case…it’s sometimes better to leave when attraction is high, rather than forcing something and looking creepy.

    I know from the IOI’s she was attracted.

    If you know you’re goign to meet up again next week, is a number close/kiss close necessary in the first meeting?

    I’m thinking for the Chinese venue/group,it was Game Grade: A for all the game, but not the kiss and number close. But I do have a strategy for that. It’s a small social cricle and targets need to be carefully scrneedd.

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  114. on June 4, 2010 at 2:31 pm Original JB

    “GBFM – do f*ck off. Please.”

    Now now, let’s give credit one place where it’s due: “Cockas!” is the “Peace!” of the 2010s.

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  115. on June 4, 2010 at 2:58 pm rebelliousvanilla

    PA, I will give you an example. The Romanian gymnastics team isn’t filled with ugly girls despite asking for athletes, not looks. I mean, they’re not hot as in 10s, but they’re fairly good looking, especially compared to other female athletes. I mean, no matter how kick ass at gymnastics we are, we don’t really afford to select only the good looking girls for the national team.




    These are the last three Olympic team leaders. All won the all-arounds, except the first, since the team is going through a generation change and she still has some years in her(she was 18 in the video). You can find better looking women fairly easily(at least in the cities not infested by Gypsies lol).

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  116. on June 4, 2010 at 3:03 pm rebelliousvanilla

    walawala, that’s what I do related to saying good bye to people I’m attracted to, but I wouldn’t like going further. Still, you can at least try and change her mind. And no, I give my number to people who didn’t ask it to me the first time. My boyfriend didn’t ask me for my digits the first time we met, for example.

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  117. on June 4, 2010 at 3:03 pm David Rockefeller

    re: Irish chicks

    Great eyes. Good faces. No tits. Legs like tree trunks. Dress for shit. (Dresses fall below their knees, which if you ever see them, will be sporting band-aids from injuries received working in potato fields.)

    Able to drink the average American under the table. Like to start bar fights.

    Zero sex appeal.

    (The above also applies to Scottish girls.)

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  118. on June 4, 2010 at 5:12 pm kaikou

    Irish men are sexy.

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  119. on June 4, 2010 at 5:16 pm sdaedalus

    I’m not going to rise to the bait, David, except to say that skirts are at least 2 inches above the knee in Dublin this year, you had better not visit or you might never recover from the sight.

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  120. on June 4, 2010 at 7:04 pm Gorbachev

    @kaikou
    Irish men are sexy.

    4 women I’ve been recently involved with; all said they can’t resist Irish men. My current paramour’s recent ex was Irish.

    In beginning to think that the whole Dating Market Value for Men thing needs to be adjusted:

    Irish: +1

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  121. on June 4, 2010 at 9:39 pm The Specimen

    @ Vanilla. Skull crushers and curls are unnecessary. Big compound lifts are all you need. You can hit your triceps with a close grip bench, and rows are pretty good at hitting your biceps. If anything, I left off deadlifts and power cleans. Those are 2 more lifts that put hair on the chest.

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  122. on June 4, 2010 at 10:24 pm polymath

    Gorb,

    Irish men have the gift of the gab, which chicks love. I’m 1/4 Irish myself, which probably helped my looks (semitic features and dark hair, but bright blue eyes and freckles). Being an ethnic mix is generally more attractive than being a pure type.

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  123. on June 4, 2010 at 10:53 pm Gorbachev

    Irish dudes are like gold in Korea, BTW.

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  124. on June 5, 2010 at 2:47 pm Grampa

    About dogs and women (as stand in for a human.)

    In Vietnam, they used to send men down into the Viet Cong tunnels with a pistol and flashlight. Dangerous work.

    So, they got the idea of training dogs to go search the tunnels. They abandoned this approach after some experience. If a dog got injured or killed, they not only lost the dog (very expensive to train!) but the handler, who was simply too emotionally crushed by the injury/death of his dog to continue.

    The bond between men and dogs is ancient and very, very strong.

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  125. on June 5, 2010 at 3:44 pm ahappinessexperiment

    I believe the following passage is relevant to Game:

    “Boldness never rests, it waxes and wanes, it burgeons or shrivels, it slips away or subjugates, and may disappear altogether after some major setback. But boldness, if it exists, is always on the move, it is never stable and never satisfied, it is the very opposite of stationary. And its main tendency is towards limitless increase, unless kept in check or brought up brutally short, or else systematically forced to retreat. In the expansive phase, perceptions become excitable or intoxicated, and arbitrariness, for example, ceases to seem arbitrary to you, believing, as you do, that your judgments and insights, however subjective are based on solid criteria.”

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  126. on June 5, 2010 at 3:52 pm ahappinessexperiment

    On another note:

    Necro Game. neg the corpse: “Hey, do you need an Advil? You don’t look like you’re feeling too well.”

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  127. on June 5, 2010 at 7:39 pm kaikou

    @ Gorb- Irish men know their way with women. Idk about this 1/4, 1/8 bull Americans like to pull but there is nothing like a full Irish man, to turn me on.

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  128. on June 5, 2010 at 8:15 pm polymath

    kk, the 1/4 in my case is no bull, my Mom was born in England and was half-Irish.

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  129. on June 5, 2010 at 9:39 pm iamtoogoodtoyou

    The guy’s name? You guessed it.

    Joran van der Sloot.

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  130. on June 5, 2010 at 10:21 pm rebelliousvanilla

    The Specimen, I agree on the close grip bench since I do that after skull crushers(6-10 reps of crushers followed by 6-10 reps of bench with the same bar). The point is, skull crushers are a lot better for working your triceps than benching with a close grip. And I don’t know how you do rows, but I never heard of them being effective biceps work. I love deadlifts though. Deadlifts + squats = Great ass and legs. I don’t get why women don’t lift weights.

    Polymath, I don’t know why, but this attraction to the other crap is usually found in the US. lol.

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  131. on June 5, 2010 at 10:39 pm polymath

    RV,

    That’s because the US has always been enough of a mix that most people grow up having gotten used to lots of different ethnic types, so they don’t actually seem very “other”. It’s not a crazy mashup like Brazil, but it’s enough that most ethnic types in the Caucasian race seem completely “normal” to white people in the US. In that case, a mix between common types seems more interesting than pure types, without seeming strange.

    I see from your blog that you are a Romanian girl named Daniela–is the teeny tiny 16×16 pic of a cute blonde in the address bar you? (the pic is still detailed enough that I can estimate >=7).

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  132. on June 6, 2010 at 12:02 am Weekend Link Fest – Limo edition « Seasons of Tumult and Discord

    […] Chateau: Would You Intervene To Help A Woman Getting Abused By A Lover?, Beach Game […]

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  133. on June 6, 2010 at 1:07 am Word Around the Campfire – the Man Who Couldn’t Cry edition « Hidden Leaves

    […] Citizen Renegade: Dress Like a Sexy Beast and Beach Game […]

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  134. on June 6, 2010 at 6:32 am broseph

    On the note of pants, what about those leather chaps i still got laying around? Those sure as hell symbolize dominance.

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  135. on June 6, 2010 at 7:47 am polymath

    Daniela,

    Found a bigger version:

    Yeah, 7’s about right, but your attitude makes you an 8 as far as I’m concerned. 🙂

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  136. on June 6, 2010 at 7:48 am polymath

    Hmm, that didn’t show, will try a link instead:

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  137. on June 6, 2010 at 7:36 pm kaikou

    Sorry Poly- you would be just American, which is fine in my book. America has this way, where they want to claim everything and nothing at the same time. Let me guess, part Cherokee?

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  138. on June 6, 2010 at 9:18 pm polymath

    kk,

    1/2 Ashkenazi Jewish 1/4 Irish 1/4 English — not too complicated. But of course I regard myself as 100% American — the analysis was simply to explain where my particular mix of features came from.

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  139. on June 8, 2010 at 2:10 am strikeforcemorituri

    Man that guy had tight Camera game, I’ve been employing that technique for as along as i’ve had a camera. I wrote apost about it awhile ago.

    http://strikeforcemorituri.wordpress.com/2010/01/20/paparazzzi/

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  140. on June 8, 2010 at 5:41 am walawala

    I used a variation of this to get FB/Email from cute flight attendant I met who had a big camera. Chatting…same type of thing as dude in this situation.

    She contacts me next day on FB…gives me some IOI’s

    I write this:

    Hey shutter bug there’s an interesting photo exhibit at XXX

    I’m a member. Let’s meet up Wednesday and ill take you for a quick tour. 5:30? Cheers walala

    HER REPLY: oh… i would love to but i am afraid i have to give it a miss this time.. i am out of the country on wednesday =( … thank you for your kindness but no luck for me this time round..

    xxxx

    Is this a blow off? Do I respond or leave it? Seemed to be on track. I noticed her FB profile lists her as “in a relationship” but as a flight attendant that could be a ruse. I don’t really care.

    Any thoughts on how to respond? She had said she was looking forward to seeing me sometime.

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  141. on June 8, 2010 at 7:21 am Polymath

    walawala,

    You have to assume she is telling the truth, “out of the country” is not an ordinary blow-off. Reply with something short like “OK, some other time then.” Wait 2 or 3 days, send a short new FB msg like “What country are you in?” or “Free this wknd?” (For some reason this 2nd message works better abbreviated: although usually I prefer complete sentences in email, you don’t want this query to sound too serious.)

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  142. on June 8, 2010 at 7:42 am walawala

    @Polymath

    She actually told me the country she’s in…and she is a flight attendant, so she’s not lying.

    What throws me is that even though she had suggested we meet up to “discuss photography”…when I propose this in a non-threatening way, she doesn’t make a counter-offer.

    It appears to be a blow off.

    After reading through these posts and learning about game, my inclincation is to ignore the blow off and simply reply:

    “Cool…I love XXX (the city you’re now).

    And leave it there…

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  143. on June 8, 2010 at 9:51 am Polymath

    ww,

    Your suggested reply looks OK. I wouldn’t have a problem with her not making a counteroffer, it’s not natural to make detailed plans when you are out of the country and can’t be sure of your exact availability when you will get back. Her close “no luck for me this time round” clearly conveys not only that she isn’t happy with failing to connect with you, but that she expects there to be a “next time”.

    Unfortunately you may not be able to tell her location from her FB page because if she is smart she won’t want to give a hint that her apartment is unoccupied to potential burglars. So maybe you should end your reply with either “Msg me when you get back” or “Msg me after you’re back” (the former is slightly more presumptuous, you can judge which version fits better)

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  144. on June 8, 2010 at 12:35 pm walawala

    @Polymath

    I replied: “London, great music bad weather. I’m sure your luck will change when you get back.

    Flight attendant game…

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  145. on June 21, 2010 at 4:06 pm Sultan

    I’m just prowling through the blog, so excuse this much belated comment. I’ll chip in with the version of game that I would have used on the beach chick. The ‘Him’ replies will be what I would have said.

    HER: That’s what you wanted to photograph?
    HIM: Yeah.
    HER: Why?
    HIM: (With a knowing smile, like a smirk) You know should be thankful you have a pretty face.
    Her: Why is that?
    Him: Exactly.

    This puts you in a position of total dominance. You can move onto playful qualifying questions from here and then just lead her to an instant date or whatever.

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  146. on June 22, 2010 at 3:26 pm Al

    Also just prowling through the blog.

    Obviously this is a very tight-ran game, but a question is, suppose you’re a guy out with the said girl on maybe a second date.

    As you walk back from a swim in the ocean you see this tight game go down, how do you save your date?

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