This post is a follow-up to my original Contrast is King post, and serves as an adjunct to my fashion post.
Women love surprises. They love a man they can’t easily peg. They chase men who intrigue them. There are methods men can use to trigger this attraction reflex in women. One potent technique is identity inversion — where you present yourself one way while confirming an entirely unexpected impression.
Let’s say you show up at an indie bar dressed like someone who belongs there — newsie cap, skinny jeans, t-shirt, indoors scarf, chucks. You approach a hipchick knowing that she thinks she has you all figured out before you’ve even said a word. A conversation follows, and she asks what you do for a living, and what you like to do for fun. You talk about your job in corporate law, and you mention how you like to help entrepreneurs set up new businesses.
BOOM! She wasn’t expecting that at all. She squirms a little on her bar stool. Suddenly, you have become a lot more interesting to her. She may not care one iota about corporate law, but she sure cares about a hipster doofus who challenges her expectations.
Now let’s say you’re at a networking event and you’re wearing a sharp business suit. You approach a seriousskirtchick and she’s sized you up in the three seconds it took for you to walk over to her. A conversation follows and she asks the usual questions (hot girls aren’t very conversationally nimble because they’re never given a reason to be — a true player knows to give girls reasons to step up their conversation game and make them work for the cock). Instead of shop talk about the market or clients, you regale her with your interest in public policy to alleviate wealth inequality, or your downtime playing bass for a local band. You actively defy her expectations.
This is the challenge inherent in contrast that is so effective at turning women on. Dress one way, speak another way. And it works on both sexes, though tempered with the usual caveats concerning the outsized importance of female physical attractiveness. Have you ever met an artsy chick in heavy black eyeliner who surprised you when she began discussing economic theory? I have, and it intensified her cuteness; I wanted her more when she unraveled twists in her personality concealed behind my snap judgment of her.
Identity inversion will work on most girls, but there is a subset of girls for whom mismatches between a man’s presentation of himself and his interests and opinions will hurt his chances. There are some girls who have very strong “types”, and will actively seek out those types for copulatory auditions. If a girl swoons for bike messenger dudes and everything they represent, and you are dressed like a bike messenger when you meet her, you may wind up hurting your game if you talk like a lobbyist. She wants the whole bike messenger package, not just the funky cap. Luckily, girls with powerfully influential but narrow mental mate templates are rarer than girls with expansive templates for intriguing, hard to pin down men.

copulatory auditions….lol
frist!!!
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“Let’s say you show up at an indie bar dressed like someone who belongs there — newsie cap, skinny jeans, t-shirt, indoors scarf, chucks. You approach a hipchick knowing that she thinks she has you all figured out before you’ve even said a word.”
OMG YA!!
I remember that after seeing me in that outfit she was surprised to see that I had a cock when we got home!! lzozlzlz
BOOM! Talk about flipping the script! BOMM! BOOM! BOON! all night long lzozlzlzlzllzl
The next morning she said, “pleathe don’t take offense, but i gotta say i was surprised 2 find you had lotsa cocka 4 aql night long i mean how did u hide it in your skinny jeans? lzozlzlzl”
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Real talk.
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Thursday, I write men off for a lot of reasons – their political beliefs probably being a huge one up there and them being interested only in stupid day to day life or being shallow. I do agree that unpredictability of the kind that keeps you on the edge of your seat is HOT.
I didn’t know it’s hot for men too though since I didn’t really think of it. But it explains why a lot of guys like me – I don’t look like the person who’d have a brain in her head and even if she did to not think the way I do.
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shut the fuck up lolzzz dumbass. everyone is sick of your shit. you don’t add jackshit to the comments except taking up space. please refrain from posting. thank you from everyone. btw, your blog fucking sucks.
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Good advice, but…yeah, some girls have a hardcore preference for a “type” and aren’t going to take too kindly to posing.
The good thing is that, as a man, you can just move on to the next chick and keep tying until you find a girl that is into your shtick.
That is why game is so important. It gives a man an edge that he otherwise wouldn’t have. I have always believed that half of game is approaching women and running game, and the other half is confidence.
That is also why it is better to be a man with game than to be a pretty woman.
A pretty woman has to wait for suitors to approach or at least get warm to her flirtations, whereas a man can approach any woman he wants.
If you have the time, you could easily approach dozens of women each and every day.
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this sounds like something to do instead of just evading. works if you have contrast
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In conservative religious circles
You often write about Chrisitan communities and your observations ring true to me. Are you talking about actual physical communities you’re familiar with where you live (Canada?).
I know some devout Evangelicals but hey don’t comprise physical communities; they are generally educated professionals scattered throughouth the mid-Atlantic suburbia.
I write men off for a lot of reasons – their political beliefs probably being a huge
I gotta give my now-long-married sister props for this. She had a Lynyrd Skynyrd t-shirt in college. The t-shirt had a confederate flag on it, a standard Skynyrd theme. A hipster she was dating saw the shirt and mewled on about how he doesn’t approve of racist images.
She’s always tended SWPL, at least superficially, but she told me she dumped him soon after that because up to that point he seemed “really cute.” Yet with that comment he tranformed in her eyes into a complete weenie.
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jake the masta beta writes,
“shut the fuck up lolzzz dumbass. everyone is sick of your shit. you don’t add jackshit to the comments except taking up space. please refrain from posting. thank you from everyone. btw, your blog fucking sucks.”
LOZLZLZLZL!
i think this might be the ultimate beta herb insult: “”btw, your blog fucking sucks.”
lozlzllzllzlz
ouch lzolzlzllzlz
at least my blog fucking sucks instead of sucking dicks like yours lzozllzllzllzlzlzlzl pw3d!!!
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Thursday:
I posted this in the comments on your latest blog post, but it either got screwed up and didn’t post or you haven’t yet approved it.
Why don’t you write more often about Christian dating? I’m sure there is a ready market for advice that comes from the realistic (ie non-pedestaling) perspective.
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http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2010/05/the-end-of-men/8135
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lozlzlzlozlolzlzllz hey if any of you run out of porn on teh internet and have nothng left to titllate your yearnmings, i highly recommend books penned by agianing upper midedle class white womenz like charlotte allen lzozlzlzllz
but i think i might have found a hottie gilf who out charlottes charolotte allen even–laura sessions stepp lzozllzlzlzlzllzlz
this book is better than neoeonc butthexing porn even if they are tapoing iot without their girlths conthent:
http://www.amazon.com/Unhooked-Young-Women-Pursue-Delay/dp/1594489386
Stepp follows three high school girls and six college women through a year in their lives, chronicling their sexual behavior. These girls and women don’t date, don’t develop long-term relationships or even short, serious ones — instead, they “hook up.” Hooking up, Stepp writes, “isn’t exactly anything.” It can “consist entirely of one kiss (fuck that shit), or it can involve fondling (lozlz), oral sex (lzozllzlzzl), anal sex (lzozlzlzlzl zl omg rock on bicth now lzozlzlz), intercourse (yah zlzozll!) or any combination of those things (HELL YEAH LZOZLZLZLLZLZZLLZZLZLZLLZL!). It can happen only once with a partner (fuck that shit), several times during a week (try obver one night with 3 pardners lzozlzlzlz) or over many months . . . . It can mean the start of something (like the start of firneds with benefits or just benefits maybe lzozlzl), the end of something (teh end of my cockcoming out of her mouth lzozllzlz) or the whole something (anal, oral, ginal).” If that sounds as if hooking up can mean almost anything but “fried fish for dinner,” (omg lozlzlzlzl yah dat is what it smells like somtimes deep freid fish pussy stinkj!!!)!)!)!) Stepp goes on to offer something more definite: What makes hooking up unique is that its practitioners agree that there will be no commitment, no exclusivity, no feelings. The girls adopt the crude talk of crude boys: They speak of hitting it, of boy toys and filler boys, “my plaything” and “my bitch.”
LZOLZLZLZLZLZLZOZLZL!!
once upon a time parents were there to warn the kids of certain behaviors and taht it might lead to cats nad more cats and catz and more catz and stds lolzozlzlzlzl
but todya aging neocon white womenz love playin da kinky kink up lzozlzlzl
this is why the fed funds feminism–to debauch and debase everything and all of entirety lzolzlzlzlzlzlzozzolzlzlz lzozlzlz
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http://theobsidianfiles.wordpress.com/2010/06/08/new-article-in-the-atlantic-the-end-of-men/#comment-12437
read this article. what a cluster fuck.
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^^^^
i love how neocns white womenz and teh fed treated our rising generation as a giant laboratory lzozlzlzloozlzozolo
“let’s see what happens when we kill ftaherhood and get rid of the soul and spirit and the great books and classics and let gina tinges rule the world lzozlzlzlzllz”
the fed funded this experiment as there are no greater transferrers fo welath than womanz as they create and make nothing and consuime consume consume dperatmeptnt stores are 90% devoted to womenz and they buy shoes and more shoes and more shoes and then they ass cock and gina cock drguggie drummers and tell teh betas they must work for the greater good of their baby childrne made with biker drummer sperm many of whom will be in prison which the neocns also love lzozlzl
there have never been any soldiers as brave as women as single handledly women killed 50,000,000 in the neocon’s preemptive war on the unborn lozlzlzlzozllzlzlz so they could better serve the fiat masters in teh workplace who found it chepaer to import pregrown mexian labor than take women out of the short-skirt wearing subprime selling marketplace lzozlzlzl
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When I show up rocking a mohawk and a full beard I’m sure women make all sorts of three second judgments about me.
Once conversation ensues and they find out that (in addition to being a creative person) I have managed to parlay my talents into a series of pretty serious entrepreneurial ventures, women melt like butter. It doesn’t hurt that some of these ventures are companies that are well known locally via TV advertisements, hehe
Point is, I’m sure I defy a lot of preconceptions by the contrast between my somewhat rugged, peacockish appearance and my serious side which involves having a knack for business and an appreciation for the finer things in life.
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http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2010/05/the-end-of-men/8135
lozlzlzllzlz
relax men
women may have more jobs and get paid more but remember it’s all in debt-based dollars that ben bernanke prints at will
see the fiat masters conquered our country and when conquering a country it was custumary to kill the menz and let the womenz live on to pump ’em zlozzllzl
but the fiat masterz said “hey why not keep the men aorund lzozllzlzlzlz, and what would be even funnier would be to have the men who create and produce everything be managed by soulless whores who we butthexed at harvard and yale thusly deosulling them. lzozlzllzlzzl! and now the osulles harpies are transferring the man’s assetts to us–the money masters who create money out of thin air; whether the soulles harpies are doing it throuigh marraige and divorce or as MBA managers lzozlzlzllzlzlozzlzlo.” omg lozlzllz
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Jake don’t hate on lolzlzlz she just got good dick from roissy, embrace that fact and learn the power of alpha. Obv she’s a winner 😉
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GreatbooksForMen! I love you man! hilarious posts, One track mind, Anarcho-libertarian ideology, an obsession with Buttsex, bad spelling, devil may care attitude, a love of the classics, hatred of fiat money, the patented lzzollzz ing. What’s not to love? If I was ever fighting in the trenches, fighting for my life, I would want you in my trench even more than I would want Roissy. If I die, atleast I’ll die laughing!
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“Ultimate Extinction of the Dharma Sutra”:
“When the Dharma is about to disappear, women will become vigorous and will at all times do deeds of virtue. Men will grow lax and will no longer speak the Dharma.”
“When my Dharma disappears it will be just like an oil lamp which flares brightly for an instant just before it goes out. After this time it is difficult to speak with certainty of what will follow.”
“Good persons will be hard to find; at most there will be one or two. Men will die younger, and women will live longer.”
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lozlzlzlzlzlzlzlz have you ever vistied a univeristy adimisntartor or ceo at a major comapny?
lozzllzlzzll
the univeristies and corproations together placed our nation in 15,000,000,000,000 trillion $$$ in debt lzozlzl!!
so when you visit them you have to walk on by all the offices of womenz after womenz after womenz after womenz all desoulled and asscocked and assocked and desouled and they surround themsleves with a thousand thousand thousand deoulsed womenz lzozlzllzlzlzllz
it is like traveling up the river in heart of darkness but intsead of seeing stakes with skulls on them, you see teh faces of assocked womenz.
and then, when you get to the CEO, his vacant eyeys turn to you, and in the midst of all his glorious fiat debt and welath, (which is nothing but the butthexing of future generations and teh assfucking and desecration of teh great books), he turns his eyes towards you and says, “the horror, the horror; mr. kurtz he dead.”
and i go lzozlzllzlzl!
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http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid42950271001?bctid=89556585001
Don’t forget the video.
The children hyphenate and combine both parents last names to rosinplotz, but Hanna Rosin ONLY carries her last name.
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^^^^^
does not matter
i love you too
as teh fiat neocns send our best to die on foreign shores in fiat wars for undefined borders while eradicationg teh borders of our own country; as teh noeocn elite send our best to die for freedom and liberty, ahile robbing 50,000,000 fetuists of their NATRURAL RIGHT @ life liberty and happiness in preemptive wars on the unborn, and as the neocn fiat womenz say, “LET THEM EAT BUTTHEX LZOZLZLZL!” i yet hold out for something greater–for a cultural reniassance. ozlzlzlzllzlzllzl
and ishall serve all of you–lovers and h8ers alike–with a renaissance which makes you lzozllzlzozlzozl all night long like i did last night lzozlzl
check it out as the reniassance grows lzozlzlzl
http://www.inmalafide.com/2010/06/05/the-mencius-moldbug-of-the-roissysphere/
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Contrast is gold. Always contrast when you can.
If you lose a girl who’s after “type”, you can usually tell before you do, and modify; but if you’ve lost her, just move on.
Just avoid One-Itis.
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We need to call you TJ Mckey!
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Sounds like something I could definitely put to use.
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“GreatbooksForMen! I love you man! hilarious posts, One track mind, Anarcho-libertarian ideology”
Anacholibertarian? Paleocon!
David Friedman or Murray Rothbard this guy is not.
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@ GBFM haters
Read this before showing your asses:
Neocon Butthex: symbology and terminology in the works of Great Books for Men
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montzilla,
Dude, you could get a master’s thesis outta that….
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http://www.minutodigital.com/noticias/2010/05/30/agresion-a-una-joven-por-parte-de-inmigrantes-en-francia/
Shouldn’t her gina be tingling? I don’t understand where I went wrong…
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“Read this before showing your asses:”
Dude, puh-leaze. Thanks for stating the obvious, we couldn’t have figured it out without you [rolls eyes.]
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Oh my God, Montzilla, I’ve hardly read lollz boy’s schtick (it’s the visual equivalent of nails on a chalkboard to me) but wow that decoding of lolz boy is … educating. What an effort, like trying to decode the Hybrid from BSG.
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Great post. Contrast creates the perception of depth of character and personality, while emphasizing a man’s independence and lack of concern for social conventions. Like all game advice, the delivery is the key. If you are obviously posing, it will only work on the lowest common denominator of girl.
But you shouldn’t have to front. All human beings are more complex than a given “look”, ideology or cultural identity. Any man should be able to quickly self-evaluate himself and locate two apparently contrasting qualities. No need to pretend to be a cowboy modern dancer, or a musician with a side dog-fighting operation. Once you find authentic contrast, your delivery will be natural and your confidence on stable ground.
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long live the cockas!!!
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Polymath, I didn’t write it, just ran across on the web and thought to myself “I know that dude!”
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Desouling of women will happen if you first prove that they have one lozlzlzlzlzllz
How can a thing that doesn’t have a self, have a soul?
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The element of surprise is powerful. It is even better if you find out the unexpected from someone other than the person of interest. I used to see this guy in my class on subway every Monday frantically reading through the textbooks and thought what a debil moron doesn’t have anything else going for him. I later found out he was a professional ballroom dancer and this was actually the only time he would prepare for the class. He scored major points and I got a little embarrassed for prejudging and underestimating him. Which reminds me of escalator game; a good way to wake up and get some excitement going after a long weekend.
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The children hyphenate and combine both parents last names to rosinplotz, but Hanna Rosin ONLY carries her last name.
while i was thinking up some ripe jewish insults, i had an epiphany. obviously, this lifestyle choice of combining last names is unsustainable. these two freaks think they’ve done something clever. now, the grandfather’s name is now lost down this family tree tendril forever.
well, there’s an answer as to why. these are ‘beta’ genes coming down the pipes by virtue of a civilized society. would an alpha mar his surname on his offspring’s birth certificate? of course not.
these hodgepodge last names will eventually be replaced by a small, potent band of alpha crests. the beta genes will dilute as we revert back to nature’s 80/20 ratio, where 80% of females are impregnated by 20% of males. this is where such reductionist blank-slatism is trending. maybe refined society spares a subset of this tongue-twister genetic junk, but it could never come to dominate.
as for the jewish angle, these two neocons are able to produce a combined surname by virtue of their ethnocentric culture. they have a robust ‘community’ element that will take care of its own, so alpha interlopers from heathen tribes won’t take the reins down the genetic line (rather, from within the faith). as altruistic as this ‘blanket equality’ approach might seem at face value, it is founded by way of a separatist ideology.
obviously, such a policy is disastrous for whites, whose modern christianity is already quite secular and inclusive.
(yes, diasporic jews intermarry and do all this name-changing crap too: that is a circumstantial casualty of population growth. in a way, it’s a natural culling of the herd, like “moderate” islam evolving into secularism at its outskirts)
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lozlzlllzlz i am emboying “expansive templates for intriguing, hard to pin down men.”
lozlzllzlz is he rothabrdian or paleocon or what lzozlzlz liberairan contrarian maybe GBFM is an agrarian!!! lzozlzlz like jefferosn!
lzozlzzllzlllzlz
it’s all good — lots cocka for all da ladies no matter who they think i ma lzozlzl
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The other nice thing about the subset who want the talk to match the walk is that if you step into anti-territory, you can easily recover. Not by apologizing, but by talking congruently as though you never said the non-congruent words initially.
Some women are forgiving of missteps, because the guy turns her on. Some are just too flighty to remember your first words anyway.
Those that are left, they do not let you forget you were not congruent. Of those, most just want to test you to see whther your anti-type is just a ruse…of which if you hold to the anti-type, you will intrigue them. THose left are those you cannot win, no matter what, and it is all because you have a dick.
An example of this last unwinnable group would be Jeaneane Garofallo. She’s not a lesbian, but she hates men because they have a dick.
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I bet Hanna Rosin pegs her husband. Fair play and equality of the sexes after all.
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“I bet Hanna Rosin pegs her husband. Fair play and equality of the sexes after all.”
lol that’s why lesbo sex is the most equal sex.Two-sided dildo and equality for all.
See lesbian utopia is the equal utopia and it doesn’t discriminate, men are invited too, just have to enter ass first. lol
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lozlzlzl now that the neoocns have killed dead and buried teh great spirits of reagan and thatcher i tyhink it is time to exalt them anew and translate them for the generation that has been and is being butthexed by the neocnos lozlzlzllz
i volunteer to perform this service!!
“The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people’s money [to spend].” –Margaret Thatcher
“The problem with feminism that eventually you run out of other people’s balls [to cut off].” –GBFM lozlzlzl!
“No nation ever taxed itself into prosperity.” –Ronald Reagan
“No nation ever butthexed itself into prosperity.” –GBFM
“No nation ever aborted itself into prosperity.” –GBFM
“No nation ever fiat butthexed itself into prosperity.” –GBFM
“The problem with feminism is that eventually you run out of other people’s money [to spend].” –Margaret Thatcher
lozzllzlzzlzlzlzll!
see what you asstards don’t relaize is that
capitalism + fiat dollar owned by central bank = communism
marriage + feminism owned by central bank = divorce/debt slavery
lozlzlzlzozzlzl
lzozllzlzzozlzlzl
anything + fiat butthex = it’s opposite
conservatism + fiat debt = secretive tapings of butthex iwthout the girlth’s conthent lzozlzlzl
lzolzlzlzllzllzzlzl
peace + fiat debt = foreign wars on foreign shores
love of the poor + fiat debt welfare = poorer poor & more fatherless poor
lzozllzlozlzlzl
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Here is my take:
Young (white) men can no longer get jobs. Early twenty something men in New York city are unemployable unless they went to Harvard and Columbia.
I know because i see it with my own eyes- my younger brother 23 and all his male college grads pals- zero jobs!
These kids would have found good jobs just ten years ago.
For whatever reasons the girls that went to the same schools with the same degrees are finding jobs.
The black community reference refers to black college educated working women, and black men who have never entered corporate America. These black women want to date corporate working black men but they don’t exist! There are many more educated well paid black women in corporate America than black men. This creates a huge distortion and imbalance in the black mating market because of female hypergamy.
So black women adopt, or kick the man out and raise children solo- or have no kids, or they date thugs. This is what will soon happen to corporate working white women when they severely out number men in the office.
What do men dominate- IT, Engineering, and manual labor? Manual labor pays shit- but it should pay more.
What else do men dominate, the military and civil service work. Wall Street won’t remain male dominated forever. There are a slew of wanna be female MBA’s in grad schools.
Aside from that women dominate in the workforce.
All things being equal if a corporation needs to layoff a male or a female doing the same exact job- which is it going to be?
I have worked in NYC corporate America for 10 years, and i have witnessed a steady increase of more women than men in all levels of management except the ceo spot.
If it wasn’t for the manual labor jobs women wouldn’t be able to work in PR or marketing fields which are dominated by very well paid women.
I knew it was a mancession, but i did not know that 75% of all job losses were incurred by men!
A woman in a HR, PR, Art, Advertising, marketing, editing industry makes more than a man in almost any field outside of law, medicine, and Wall Street.
Fields that women dominate in- pay more than most fields that men can find work in.
Couple this with unfair divorce laws, bogus sexual harassment suits, and a general discrimination, -belittling- of males and a monetary devaluing of male attributes and male skills…
And
This shit has hit critical mass.
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Bro, it really isn’t that hard to get chicks if you glue yourself off of computer and stop overanalyzing every move.
Dress one way and talk the other will only work if you have a life to back it up, otherwise you just look like a double dork.
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lozlzlzlzl
you guys are still refusing to read:
“ERASING GENDER IDENTITY
FEMINISM & HOMOSEXUALITY; HOW HETEROSEXUALITY WORKS
Feminism, our official gender ideology, masquerades as a movement for women’s rights. In reality, feminism is a cruel hoax, telling women their natural biological instincts are “socially constructed” to oppress them.
Feminism is elite social engineering designed to destroy gender identity by making women masculine and men feminine. Increasingly heterosexuals are conditioned to behave like homosexuals who generally don’t marry and have children. Courtship and monogamy are being replaced by sexual promiscuity, prophesied in Aldous Huxley’s Brave New World.
The Rockefellers and Rothschilds created feminism to poison male-female relations (divide and conquer.) Their twin objectives are depopulation and totalitarian world government. Why? These bankers create money out of nothing and think they are God. (WHERE WOMENZ COME IN IS THEY NEED SOMEONE TO TRANSFER THE PHYSICLA ASSETTS AND WELATH FROM MEN TO THE BANKERS LOZZLLZLZZL VIA DIVORCE DEBAUCHERY FALSE SEXUAL HARRASSMENT SUITS FEMINST? STUDIES CLASSES MBA’S FEMBOTYS MANAGAING TEH MENS WORKS CREATORS LZOZLLZZLLZZL TAKING THEIR PRODUCTS AND GIBVING THEM TO THE CREATORS OF DEBT LZOZLZL)
“Cruel Hoax” shows the connection between feminism, Communism and 9-11. It examines male-female relations and shows how we can take back our heterosexuality.
” –http://www.cruelhoax.ca/#top
what are u waiting 4?
both of your balls and weiner to be cut off?
lozzllzlz
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Very good chance Roissy and greatbooksformen are the same person.
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so what do men do? remain men or become women?
why have the gender dichotomy when you can have women of both sexes? when you need only women? when you are no better than ants?
feminization of man by Satyr, read up, know the roots of it, pissing in the wind won’t get us anywhere.
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I love when I talk to girls wearing my stormtrooper armor, then tell them I’m more of a Trek fan.
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“Very good chance Roissy and greatbooksformen are the same person.”
please stop insulting roissy or he will ban me lzozllzzllzz
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@Heman
“I love when I talk to girls wearing my stormtrooper armor, then tell them I’m more of a Trek fan”
That is so mean.
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🙂
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This is something that I’m lucky to be a natural at. I have such a weird background and eclectic interests that even before I knew who the hell Mystery was, I was pressing all the dichotomous buttons I could find on a bitch.
My strongest contrast is between my appearance and my intelligence. I look like someone of average IQ at best, but I’m earning my Ph.D. in a technical field.
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@ game_in_bk,
You are correct to be looking at the economy as the most alarming situation for men. Even the Ivy Leaguer’s aren’t safe anymore.
I’m no fan of government intervention in markets, but something has to be done to push the older workers into retirement. Maybe the health care plan will accomplish this, I don’t know. Economic opportunity is shrinking by the day in this country. Every new professional degree is saddled with six-digit student loan debt, which makes risk-taking and entreprenuelism impossible for many of the brightest. If we can get the baby-boomers moved out of the market, there should be opportunity for men again, but right now, its looking really bleak both at the micro and macro level.
If I were to advise a bright high school kid on how to make a living these days, I’d advise him to learn a skill (welding, plumbing, auto-mechanics), and then how to run a small business. Contrary to the mantra of the education system for the past 50 years, kids need to stop thinking big about fixing the world and nation and need to start looking practically at how to provide a needed service locally, and how to make money doing it.
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@Cannon’s Canon
“while i was thinking up some ripe jewish insults,”
Didn’t you say that you had some Jewish heritage on another thread or I am confusing you with someone else?
“this lifestyle choice of combining last names is unsustainable. ”
They’ve done it in Spain for centuries.
“as for the jewish angle, these two neocons..”
I think they are liberals.
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@La Rondelle
Any idea what that was all about?
[editor: tribalism]
The guy just hit a random girl for kicks?
[and giggles.]
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J:
I found it this morning whilst link jumping or comment surfing through the WN-o-sphere. I forget where. The video was put together by a Spaniard, illustrating, as near as I can tell, typical behaviour of blacks in France. Perhaps one of our international readers here can translate.
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The value of education as a whole is degenerating. A girl _successfully_ defended at the best Estonian university (got an E) her bachelor’s thesis with the topic ‘Ideological manipulations: comparison of christianity and communism’
Excerpts from the thesis defense:
So after repeated questions about that she conceded that it might have been a typo, so when the public asked what kind of Martin Luther is she talking about, the reply was the following
Sorry about the strange English, but I hope I got the point across.
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J,
They’ve done it in Spain for centuries.
True, but that’s just to advertise that the ancestry is free of Moops. It still ties into a communal separatism, just like “Ahmad ibn Fadlān ibn al-Abbās ibn Rašīd ibn Hammād”.
I am confusing you with someone else?
You are confusing me with my suspicions of every other person on the internet.
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what really throws girls off is the old switheroo in luaghter
first time she tells a joke or makes a funny, go
hahahahhahahahaha
next time she tells a joke or makes a funny go
lzlzlozlzozlozlzlzl zlozlzzl omg lzozlzlzlzl
that will thorw her off and she will be intrigueed and want to hold your cock in her mouth to see if it tastes like hahahahahhahahaah or lzollolzlzozlzozozlzlzozlzllzlzlz
or some rare combination lzozllzlzlzlz
mine tatsets mor elike lzozllzllzlzlzlzllzlzlzlzl not that i have tatsed it by i have heard through hearsay yaknow lzozlzlz
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narzheewa
– True about the collapsing value of education. I knew a lady with a Masters in Law, studying for a doctorate, who walked in on my friends and I watching the final part of the “Passion of the Christ”, where Jesus is up on the cross.
Her question – “What’s this film about”?
She also thought that Yasser Arafat was married to Jackie Kennedy and that the Russians were first to the moon.
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Congress passes Title IX: Science Edition
http://voxday.blogspot.com/2010/06/congress-passes-title-ix-science.html
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agree 100% with the general premise, though generally speaking, I’ve found that you want to keep your contrast within certain parameters and you don’t want to completely defy certain social expectations. The example you provided of a hipster who practices “corporate law” is one such instance. Being a corporate lawyer–working long hours, taking life seriously–is too diametrically opposed to what a hipster girl is looking for. Being a different kind of lawyer–say, international law–could work, as could any involvement in business that doesn’t eat up too much of one’s time.
As a person you would no doubt think of as a hipster if you met me, I can say that two contrasts that have worked for me are my interests in working out and having a muscular physique (which is really not that muscular relative to the average gym goer, but is olympian compared to the eithiopian frames of most male hipsters), and having a lot of really conservative opinions, particularly with regard to gender, race, other pc taboos. But i still play in bands and wear skinny jeans so the girls of the LES get a nice mix of everything.
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Vincent–
“This is something that I’m lucky to be a natural at.”
–I could see this about you by reading your blog. Me too. I am an artist in DC with my social circle consisting of mostly IMF/World Bank/Policy people. I live contrast game. I am also against public funding for art (as with many issues) and conservative with money. My favorite is when a guy finds out I’m an artist and launches into a speech about how art is sooo in need of funding and how sad that it is the first thing to get cut from the public budget to woo me and then I assume he’s a socialist and explain that I am not. Bleeding heart for empathy and compassion? Yes. Bleeding heart for government bail outs/hand outs? Um, hell no.
also-
“but I’m earning my Ph.D. in a technical field.”
–dude, I know a lot of really stupid Ph.D. holding fools. I’m sure you’re a smarty pants but many just fake it well. I never trust a piece of paper. In fact, if someone presents it within the first hour of conversation, I trust them even less.
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@editor
Any idea what that was all about?
[editor: tribalism]
Geez frickin’ Louise! Sometimes, I think humans are devolved, not evolved, primates.
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‘They’ve done it in Spain for centuries.–True, but that’s just to advertise that the ancestry is free of Moops. It still ties into a communal separatism, just like “Ahmad ibn Fadlān ibn al-Abbās ibn Rašīd ibn Hammād”.”
And this I didn’teven know??
“I am confusing you with someone else?– You are confusing me with my suspicions of every other person on the internet.”
LOL. Nervous?
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identity inversion? that shit is too complicated.
why don’t we just say. game = 90% looks + 10% bullshit/tactics/skill.
kind of like how poker is 90% luck and 10% skill and everybody claims they are a superstar.
Its easy to win when you’ve got the minerals so to speak.
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What’s interesting is that this works with even the most meager of effort as long as the contrast is there. The basis of my everyday sustenance is the contrast between apparent dormancy and actual danger (for the food that is).
But what works even better with the sentient food is to _hint_ at the danger without really showing it. While I catch the occasional thrill seeker with overt display of my food-eating nature, it is this hint of danger under a dense canopy of harmlessness that really gets them hooked.
A small twitch when waiting in complete immobility. It works like a charm. The scenario typically unfolds as follows:
“It just moved!”
“That’s just your imagination. It’s not doing anything.”
“No, really, it just did!”
Then a variable amount of time will pass, while the food observes. I just wait, patiently, but internally gauging their reactions. It is important to read the non-verbal communication well here. It may need another nudge if the first display was not enough. But I have to be subtle.
Eventually, though, they get closer. Don’t jump in for the kill too quick. Let them come, the real prize is not the curious one, the real prize is snaring the one that was just following the curious one in. The one who knew of the actual danger and nevertheless followed in.
It tastes like victory.
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One thing to consider, though, is that the contrast advocated in this article is the kind that has been in nature for millions of years. It’s the basic predator premise: blend in into the environment, and wait for the chance to pounce at the prey.
It’s basic. It’s simple. It works.
If one was to attempt the contrast in the opposite way (by, say, appearing at that “indie bar” in your “suit and corporate” attire, whatever that means), the contrast would still be there if your attitude was fitting for the venue, but the effect would be smaller than if the contrast had been achieved by visually blending in. It can awaken the food’s curiosity, but lacks the rush of the surprise that came out of nowhere.
And as I outlined on my previous post, the next step would be that hint of outlandishness to attract the best food. The best predators in their kingdoms have taken this step, from the deliciously-smelling carnivorous plants to the bioluminiscence-hanging abyssal fishes. Something very subtly out of place that does not break the illusion of the camouflaged predator. Unlike the peacocking of the mating rituals of other species, here subtlety is key.
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i luvs you allls o ye of little faith
to all the spinsters with cats
who teh fed tricked into spinsterhood/serving debt lxolllozlzl
to all the fanboys in ther single mom’s basements
whose dads they never knew because the fed tookawy fatehrhood lzozlzl
to all the broken familes
who were split up by the need to make two salaries to feed the kids
to all aging necon womenz celeberating secretive tapings of butthex without teh girlths conthent lzozllzlzozlzl they tircked you too
to all the spinster chix again i am sorry they sdesouled you
in asscokcing sessins drugged you up on prozac
told you to abort your kids no wonder your’re d[pressed and all fucjked up no lozlzlzlzling here
my heart goes out to you while tucker max & goldman sax laugh zlzolzlzl
too all the aborted fetushes we ask for forgiveness we deserve not and to all those tricked into aborting the gift of life lzozllzllzl we forgive u too and pray for teh fethuses, but not in school as prayer is illegal in school lozlzllzlz
to all those inthe rising genertaion who will have to pay off their parents cultural and monetary debts lzozlz war isn’t fun but it’s part of teh fed’s fiat bubble cycle lzozlzllz so like after th e country goes bust the war starts in the ultimate pump and udmp scheme you thought enron/worldcom/fannae mae was bad lolzozlzlz just you wait lzozlzlll i hope not and ai pray for peace lozlzlz maybe we can all learn to live and get along but i think we would have to start with truth and nobility and honor and ocurage and virtue and not with fiat debt and butthex lozlzlzl that’s just nmy gues from reading heroduts and the great boooks and classis in greek and latin zlzolzllzlzl
and the bible too about sodom and gomorroah did yuknow taht sodomycame form sodom and gonnoreah came from gommroah? lzozllz kidding about that second one i doubt it did but maybe who knows i have never had eitehr sodomy nor gonorreah and i ahve never been to sodom nor gomoorrah
sodom must;ve been a funny place lzolzlozolllzzll and a crazy party or two and the editor in chiefstress priscilla painton at simon and schuster would have fit right in publishing tucker max’s books yah i betin gmorrah they had a tower of babel with the ofices of simon and schuster at the top across the hall form the fed lzozlzlzllzlzlzlzllzlzlz
sometimes i wonder if poets and prophets can still change the world?
or have they trainde too, too many women to hate, and dumbed down and drugged up too many menz? have they destoryed too many fathers and killed to many families? have the y deocnstructed tyoo many books and spilled too much blood and aborted too many fetuthes as one is one too many. have they prescribed ritalin to too many cretaive sols in chool in prozac to too many who need to be depressed and face it when they abort fetuses as god gave us feelings and makes us not pay attention to boring stae corproate teachers as all creativity comes from not paying attention to the state lzozlzzll and now it is diagnoses as a diseas lzozlzlz.
lozlzlzzlzl
well juust wanted to say i luv u all and nice 2 know ya and welcomes abords lzozlzl
and 2 asnwer my own above questions
let me jsut say
teh great books
wouldn’t be great
if they weren’t immortal
and they offer us redemption
the moment we start living by tehir ideasl
and epic higher stories
so put down your hate and your secretive butthex tape
and pick up a cross
and come follow me
and let me shoulderyour burden
for my yoke is light
dante wrote la vita nuova–the new life
and it is time 4 u to find your new life
for to loseth one’s old way is to fuind the new path
so do not fear
lozlzlzlzlzlz omg wtf am i saying lzozlzlz
i almost blew my cover here as teh messiah lzozlzllll i hide it beind all my lzozlzllzlzlzlzlzlzlles but a couple of you ahve caught on lzozlzlzlzllzlzl
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Heman
“I love when I talk to girls wearing my stormtrooper armor, then tell them I’m more of a Trek fan”
Could imagine Clark Kent and Peter Parker working the identity inversion game to the fullest. Clark could see who was menstruating, pregnant, have crabs, etc and Parker’s spidey sense could be used to detect gina tingles and danger bitches.
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People saying its complicated…nothing in game is complicated when you replace the nerdy terms with real concepts.
All Roissy is saying here is to be unpredictable and even deceptive in your tastes, styles and mannerisms.
Just like a neg is a playfully delivered exaggerated slight designed to make a girl just slightly insecure, just like push-pull is sharing common ground with a girl one minute and disagreeing with her the next, you get the idea (I hope).
Identity inversion is unpredictable and has roots in Machiavellianism (like actually a fuckload of game theory), and we all know how important deception is to survival. With women you never want to appear totally as you are.
Women live to guess and figure and try to put things together, like little detectives. Don’t ever stop giving her pieces to the puzzle and she won’t ever stop wanting to bang you.
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“I love when I talk to girls wearing my stormtrooper armor, then tell them I’m more of a Trek fan”
–holy shit that was funny. It’s the visual that does it. I pictured the outfit in a bar.
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Offtopic
Roissy, you should probably have a gander at this: http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2010/06/relationships-have-their-own-risks.html#more
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Any identity inversion ideas for a south-asian looking, non-american sounding, soft-spoken, analytical, engineer type of man? I’m trying to work against the fiat-serving, pussy-repelling, visa-weilding, asexual, immigrant code-monkey with body odor stereotype.
There are some passions that might very well help me carve a interesting identity (writing/improv etc.) in the long run, but I’m in the mood to experiment and get some instant feedback. Aside from continuing to improve upon my looks/fitness/interests – what ‘roles’ could I try out to build a little more intrigue than the average silicon-valley cube rat?
This board has solved many a dilemma before, and I couldn’t think of a better place to ask. Ideas/brickbats welcome.
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eg: Portraying how I’m well-versed about many international cultures, alluding to my travels (real/vicarious), being able to hold interesting conversations in flawless english, being funny as hell (I have my moments) etc. have hooked a handful of targets. But I can’t just keep coming up with this schtick over and over – it’s exasperating. I’d like my identity to be a stronger hook.
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Ho Foods
If you would do some charity work perhaps? Cant speak for every girl, but i think girls love that, then you could brag about your soft side, but commenters, feel free to say if the advice is bad..
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You know saving a dolphin 🙂 wow 🙂
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Ho Foods
1. Start training MMA
2. Constantly drink and smoke
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True…but I think in my experience, there has tobe some initial attraction already built up and the contrast is the deal-breaker.
I’m usually quite talkative and outgoing. But when I’ve been more reserved and quiet, girls who have gotten to know me are more turned on by the shift not realizing that the outgoing rowdy guy is who I really am.
They somehow think knowing them has brought this out of me.
I think where it’s worked, it’s appealed to “fix-him” type girls who want the satisfaction of changing me.
Also, I think the quiet thing can be appealing to girls who think they’re getting someone more maleable but are surprised and more turned on when I start calling them out on their crap etc.
I think the outward appearance is one aspect, but also demeanour….quiet and then shifting to more aggressive.
I’ve started gaming a younger girl who I’m going much slower and quieter on.
Far from being my naturally ebullient self, I’m quieter…sharper…more mysterious…I take my time to respond.
I smile when she does something awkward, or funny but I don’t comment.
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HoFo,
Quick and effective is to dress in a way that is very against “type”. I don’t know what look would work for you, but it should be high-T.
Redneck biker might do it (jeans and American or Confederate flag on denim jacket, work boots, concealed carry, rather than cool biker with leather jacket and shades which lots of Asians do — but you have to actually get the bike for full effectiveness, a good move anyway because giving a chick a ride on your Harley primes them in several ways).
If you can grow a non-laughable mustache or beard, do that , that will distinguish you from the code-monkeys.
The other direction for contrast is expensive tailored suits, but you need to find someone who can optimize that look for you.
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“Some women are forgiving of missteps, because the guy turns her on.”
That should read “all women.” Gina tingles offset everything, even a man beating his girl.
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@HoFo
What about a surfer look? You can get away with it there. Either Keanu Reeves in Point Break (and you need to work out for this look) or the more typical californian surfer dude look. Laid back surfer vibe combined with intelligence and drive would make me swoon.
You could also go for a really stylish look, not necessarily suits but v smart Italian casual.
Agreed with Polymath on the beard, the right type of goatie can work wonders. Although if you did a surfer dude thing you could get away with just not shaving.
And motorbikes are cool, they are just bad boy enough. As long as they’re not actually ridden by an actual bad boy but not a grandpa type either.
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Ho Foods,
I would go all the way. Cowboy hat, boots and a belt. Good luck.
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JayZ, you don’t really have to wait that much as a beautiful woman. And if there’s a shortage of men, you can move your ass and do something.
PA, I agree. Whiners about racism are even worse than nerds. I mean, why would I have the kid of a whiner like that that is willing to discriminate against his own children with me in the name of social justice and other crap? Nerds at least are good at something.
game in bk, just wait until the Fed goes broke. All the slags in governmental cushy jobs will be looking for work and production will be back in. Obviously, unless the US becomes a communist dictatorship or something. Besides, considering the abysmal number of kids white women make, who cares? The way I see it, if I was a man, I wouldn’t marry someone if I wouldn’t get kids. Besides kids and housework(and regular worry free sex), as a man I wouldn’t need anything else from women.
Sidewinder, the solution is to cut the governmental spending to 30% of what it is today and slash taxes. Then you will have jobs. And fire all the leeches in the public sector. It’s hilarious to me that you think young men will have it better by sustaining unproductive retired fools.
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A fine piece by GBFM at June 9, 2010 at 12:50 am.
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“Identity inversion will work on most girls, but there is a subset of girls for whom mismatches between a man’s presentation of himself and his interests and opinions will hurt his chances. There are some girls who have very strong “types”, and will actively seek out those types for copulatory auditions.”
heres the kicker (and its something ive thought about before being a black male around predominately white women when i go out) :
if a female COMES UP TO YOU or STEPS TO YOU , then identity inversion will most likely hurt you . the fact that she goes out of her way to come up to you , means that she has build up an image of you based on stereotypes , and she is very attracted to that image . for me as a black male , it means that if a white woman steps to me , i tend to be more direct in my game because thats what her stereotype of black men entails
if you approach a woman instead , then identity inversion is your best friend
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the weather was accommodating at the jersey shore three weekends ago. i got on the decks and pulled out this record:
and the girls were lozzzlzlzing all over me! contrast!
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Same thing with general beta/alpha categories. I’m a beta, but when I flirt with a hot chick she either tries to yell at me to knock me down and “put me in my place” or she seems really turned on wondering how the hell I could be so confident around her.
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carlton,
Flirting with a hot chick giving the results you describe sounds like it is coming from your being <=6 rather than being a beta. The looks/attractiveness scale is what usualy determines a chick's INITIAL response, though you can get past that pretty quickly. The contrast between "not-good-looking-enough-for-you" and "confident-anyway" is of course the mother of all forms of contrast game.
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montzilla
“@ GBFM haters
Read this before showing your asses:
Neocon Butthex: symbology and terminology in the works of Great Books for Men”
1) that’s brilliant
2) Morpheus: The Matrix is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you to the truth.
Neo: what truth?
Morpheus: omg that you have been butt-sexed your whole life by fiat dollars you fucktard lol
3) We should just replace “pwnd” with “bernankified” all over the interwebz
and actually in meatspace too
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Haha I just realized I have a built-in identity inversion. I’m a short Mexican with facial hair, I’ll leave it at that. I don’t know if I’ve been able to harness that into surprising women much, but I notice I get opened in Spanish a lot.
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@GBFM
This metaphor made my day!
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