In an effort to discourage rapists, a South African doctor (surprised?) has invented a female condom with hooks that attach to the penis and cause immense pain.
I don’t have a problem with this invention. But I wonder what kind of legal ramifications will confront the first woman who forgets to remove the artificial vagina dentata and maims her boyfriend’s or husband’s penis? Because I guarantee that should this device become widely available, we’re going to be hearing stories of forgetful drunk chicks quite literally hooking up and getting all hellraiser on their partners’ cocks. Jesus cringed.
Another way to be hooked on poon.
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A 2009 report by the nation’s Medical Research Council found that 28 percent of men surveyed had raped a woman or girl, with one in 20 saying they had raped in the past year. It is also believed that 16 percent of the population is living with HIV.
If that’s a real rape, then holy shit. We’ve discovered what black women have the most to fear, apparently.
AIDS is going to exterminate the entire population in short order at this rate.
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I’m not against the idea in principle, but it seems like trapping the rapist’s penis in a barbed condom would be a good way to get yourself murdered by an enraged rapist.
I guess letting civilians carry firearms for self-defense is out of the question since the Firearm Control Act was passed in 04. No wonder South Africa is the rape and murder capital of the world. Fucking stupid.
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This inventor grasps the seriousness of the problem.
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she wont accidently maim the boyfriend, just the husband.
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” I don’t think it’s cultural per se; I think it has to do with how a lot of us men worldwide were raised
Mbuyiselo Botha
South African Men’s Forum”
Oh my God. Did I read this right?
This isn’t fucking cultural?
Unbelievable, that these people in some feminized men’s movement can drag the rest of the world into this.
I’ll bet you feminists here are going to use this as a weapon against American men.
– he excused SAfrican mens’ behavior as “male”
– He slagged all men
At the same time, he excuses the obvious particularity of these stats, and hides behind Feminist perceptions of men?
Holy shit, that’s self-serving poisonous disingenuosity on a scale that defies response.
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The full quote:
Mr Botha, a father of two girls himself, said: “I think that yes, the figures are that high and for us, for me in particular, that is a very sad state of affairs.
“It means that we continue in South Africa to be one of the highest capitals of rape in the world.
“I don’t think it’s cultural per se; I think it has to do with how a lot of us men worldwide were raised. The issues of dominance against women, issues of inequality, are pervasive and you find them throughout the world.”
Just fuck off. A statistic like that just has to be owned.
I can just see how this is going to be used.
This goes way beyond inequality. It goes through inequality and comes out the other side.
I’ve got to give it to South Africa: Not helping the whole Black People Can Run A Country cause.
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So I can see how this condom can be a good idea.
The argument has a lot of valid points.
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foreplay insurance.
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It is alright.. men will carry sharp icepicks with them.
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It’s a very sharply argued series of points, this argument for spearheading an anti-rape condoms. Withdrawal from the debate could be difficult once debate is entered, though.
BTW, This is going to go on for a while.
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I wonder what kind of legal ramifications will confront the first woman who forgets to remove the artificial vagina dentata and maims her boyfriend’s or husband’s penis?
They claim in the article that it is safe, albeit painful. My guess is this is why they stopped work on the Lorena Bobbitt variant of the product. It reminds me of what an engineer said to me when I worked in software testing: “As soon as you make something idiot proof, they just invent a better idiot”.
But if they want women to actually use them they need to make them come in different colors, maybe some prints. Women care a lot about aesthetics…
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@j
I guess letting civilians carry firearms for self-defense is out of the question since the Firearm Control Act was passed in 04.
When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.
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Holy shit.
Finger her first, lads.
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and, look at this article linked on the same page…
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1288183/A-breadboard-Christmas-leftovers-dinner–bankrupt-living-Scrooge-embarrassing.html
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Gorbachev
Penetrating insight. I suspect we will be trading barbs for some time on this. You should brace yourself for some stiff opposition. Are you up for it?
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I have no problem, at all, with the idea of ordinary citizens.fighting back against criminals. Indeed, have a CHL myself and have been known to carry.
But this barbed pussy idea is desperately flawed.
The key to successfully fighting back against the bad guys – who may well be bigger and stronger or more numerous – is to pick the right time and circumstance for making your move. Like, when their back is turned or otherwise distracted. If the barb thing is ever inflicted on a rapist, it might well happen at the least advantageous moment for the woman.His back will not be turned and he will be looking at her, right? At any rate, a woman would be betting her life on the hope that when she wounded him with the wound of all wounds, he could not right then kill her. Because that is what he (and his friends) would very much want to do.
Plus, it one of these ever actually deployed against a rapist cock, the element of surprise would be lost because awareness of the issue would spread very quickly. This is the kind of issue that focuses guys attention. Protective measures would be taken.
Actually, this thing has been on the internet for years. It is mostly a hoax, I bet, for the reasons mentioned.
I got out of an armed robbery situation once. I spent several minutes thinking I was about to die. I escaped because of moves I made. The lesson I learned is that good timing and surprise can life preserving. This device is likely to fail on the first issue and fall short on the second.
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@Gorbachev
“I’ve got to give it to South Africa: Not helping the whole Black People Can Run A Country cause.”
Fortunately, the rest of Africa makes up for it. Ha.
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@dalrock
Gorbachev
Penetrating insight. I suspect we will be trading barbs for some time on this. You should brace yourself for some stiff opposition. Are you up for it?
I don’t know if I want to poke into the patch stinging nettles this gaping maw of debate represents. You never know what well-aimed dart might pierce your pride and scar the tender flesh of upright thinking.
Talk about nature savage in tooth and claw, indeed. It might require me to balance my thoughts on a knife edge, as we often are forced to do by the push and pull of regular debate.
But I get your point.
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BTW. Concealed Carry laws are a great idea. Law Enforcement where I live is now solidly behind it. There are a lot of reasons. Many of them are subtle.
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Looks like violence against women is going to go up after this. If a rape does occur it will probably lead to more aggregation.
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“Holy shit.
Finger her first, lads.”
Bingo.
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Seriously, if you think you are going to get murdered anyway then shred away, but as a life saving measure this is ridiculous, plus after the word gets around rapists will just insist at knifepoint that she remove it first or simply rape her anally/orally. In theory I understand the rationale, but in practice it is a disaster waiting to happen.
Only thing someone can do is carry, even the poorest of blacks should find a way to carry and don’t ask questions. Reform of the government is not coming and Africa is only getting worse. White should all leave to Australia, U.s. etc. as soon as possible. Funny our country would probably not take too many of them cause they would come legally, while anyone else can come in unchecked numbers.
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Once word gets around, like Stateside said, they will just finger the girl first to see if she has one on.
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As many others have pointed out, this will be effective until rapists realise they ought to check the whole they are going to be shoving their dick into. The above commenters suggest the men will fingerbang first, but who wants to hurt their hand?
I suspect they’ll start using sticks or something, meaning the woman is going to be raped twice, once by an object and once by the actual rapist. And I bet if any man finds one of these barbed condoms in a woman before he has stuck his dick in then he may just be pissed off enough to kill her.
I see these barbed condoms actually making the rape my violent and resulting in more rape victims being killed.
BTW, I wonder how long it’ll be before these things start being used in America?
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First of all, this story is old as fuck. CNN is just behind on
news for a few years.
I don’t get why someone would need a doctor to remove the
damn thing. It’s a latex condom with plastic barbs that do not
penetrate the skin. I bet all a man would need is a pair of
scissors, maybe clippers, and a few shots of liquor to get that thing off.
And I bet the natural response of someone with this thing
on his dick would be to beat the one who put it on.
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yeah the story is old but this site is just Oprah for Men. be nice and maybe Roissy will give you a big hug.
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A) How is this legal? I can’t set up booby traps in my home to maim robbers, so why is this allowed?
B) How scared of life do you have to be to actually go through your daily life having one of these things crammed up there?
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So… i would have to depend on a woman having a good memory so that i don’t end up with a shredded d!ck ?
also has no one heard of “Hell has no fury like a woman scorned” ?
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Actually, after thinking about it I have a problem with this invention.
Basically, is a 100% guilty card.
Think about it. If you are a rapist and your choices are to
potentially damage your dick, or go to jail for years, what
would you choose? I would say they would try to remove it
without going to authorities.
That, or check the opening first.
Now, what if this was an “accident”, the man would most likely call 911 right away.
Suppose that a woman is “crazy”. She wants to get rid of
her husband or boyfriend, or that guy that got promoted instead of her. All she has to do is seduce the man. “Forget” to remove the condom. File charges.
The man stands no chance legally.
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@ahappinessexperiment
I am saying “old” to CNN, not Roissy.
@Nutz
This is in South Africa. (At least for now.) Unless you are
there, I doubt you can make a claim about how women feel there.
I find the 28% of men in South Africa rape statistic hard to believe. It could be a feminists lie, it could be “she changed
her mind in the middle of it” rape, it could be real rape. I don’t
know I am not in that country. Maybe someone with a personal account can shed light on this.
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Gorbechev,
I get the thrust of your reasoning but I think you have become trapped in a circular argument. One must act carefully if you wish to successfully extract yourself from such a prickly predicament. Stay sharp man!
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Would this work against secretly taped butthex?
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#1: Stick finger up vagina.
#2: Find rapex.
#3: Remove rapex and turn it inside out.
#4: Put on as condom, commence raping.
#5: ??
#6: profit!
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Ummm, yeah, I see a few big problems with this as far as being an anti-rape measure:
1). A single wound, even on the penis (and this thing, I believe, isn’t even designed to caused wounds), won’t debilitate a man enough to allow the rapee escape. In fact, it will cause an adrenaline rush which will quickly turn the rape into murder.
2). Most rape is done in gangs, so at best the first dumbass to mindlessly penetrate her will probably be screaming in excruciation while his buddies laugh their asses off and continue business as usual.
3). People aren’t that dumb. Word will get around and rapists will finger the victim to check for dentata.
4). An increase in sodomy? (And hence HIV transmission.)
But as far as other applications go. . . damn!
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Just look up the movie “Teeth”
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Well basically as people have pointed out this will do nothing to save lives. In the event of an actual rape this will enrage the rapist and he’ll likely beat her to death or kill her with whatever weapon he thought to bring. Meanwhile in the USA this won’t stop rape but will maim college kids after the women get stinking drunk at the take back the night party and start by taking the football team. Men will get maimed but women as always are never held responsible for their actions in the U.S. so no negative repercussions (officially anyway) will befall the woman.
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While it may prevent sexual intercourse, it won’t prevent the rapist for bashing the girl’s head in for having his dick ensnared.
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But SA is a multicultural utopia?!?
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Speaking of condoms, can you PLEASE make a post on sexually transmitted diseases? It’s a downer subject but it’s seriously salient. How do all these PUAs bang so many chicks and expect to come out unscathed? Why do they avoid talking about it?
A chick I was about to bang told me she has genital herpes. I remained calm and reassuring to her, but there’s no way I’m banging this chick.
A tip, which has given me a little peace of mind:
Immediately after having (protected) sex, go to the bathroom and WASH YOUR COCK AND BALLS with soap and water. Also wash your lower abs and upper thighs. Herpes can be caught with a condom, but there’s a far less chance of catching it if you wash the girl’s dead skin off your own skin – which is how it gets transferred to you.
Some STDs are passed on through the skin. Herpes, warts, etc. While fucking her, the chick’s skin is brushing up against yours, and that’s how the little microbes n shit merges into your skin (that’s obviously a simplification), leading eventually to an infection (if the person has such an STD). By washing vigorously afterwards, you prevent this from happening.
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@Roissy: “But I wonder what kind of legal ramifications will confront the first woman who forgets to remove the artificial vagina dentata and maims her boyfriend’s or husband’s penis?”
Naturally, she will cry for rape to cover her ass. Female Nature 101.
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Roosh is right. if I was going to rape a girl and my dick got cut open from it, I would retaliate by lowering her attractiveness from 8 to 3 by smashing her face.
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Once guys start checking for the fanged condom they’ll be no deterrent because guys will remove it themselves and then probably beat the girl’s face in for trying to cut his dick off.
As I said above, I think it will increase violence toward rape victims rather than decrease it.
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This thing is SEVERAL YEARS old, why is it labeled “new” in every article?
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Adds new meaning to “slit”…
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Great invention, but to cover all holes, they should also wear one in the mouth, and one in the anus, just to be sure.
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“Let’s turn this rape into a murder”
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My moratorium on penis to vagina rule is vindicated.
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Yet more proof that Feminists believe rape is a worse crime than murder.
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Men have fingers too – couldn’t a rapist simply remove it himself before proceeding?
On the other hand, I think all women should wear these to frat parties and other college events. If she claims “date-rape” or whatever they are calling drunken hookups these days (as opposed to the Orwellian re-naming of “rape-rape”, WTF) the man’s penis will be examined.
If it lacks markings from the teeth she clearly took the thing out to have sex (overt consent) and the charges will be dropped.
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“As I said above, I think it will increase violence toward rape victims rather than decrease it.”
All the discussion about escalating violence is spot on, and just shows how far out of touch the feminists are from true rape with all of their clucking on drunk girls hooking up.
The mindset of a drunk college guy with a drunk girl who is trying to get laid herself is so far from a violent rapist it’s not even funny. When you’re that drunk you can’t even run any decent game, which the feminists decry as tricking women into sleeping with you.
As Camille Paglia pointed out and was pilloried for, this whole poetic “I didn’t really know what happened and now I feel violated” is a sexual misadventure, not a rape, and those seeking sexual adventure must make themselves accountable for misadventures.
The paranoia about “rape culture” that has afflicted colleges is fucked up. They have completely destroyed any real understanding of rape. And still girls go to these parties like there’s no tomorrow!
Unfortunately it is par for the course for feminists to blur language to slander any activity they don’t like, such as leering at women or putting pinup calendars up at work. They think it is lender the horror of the crime to a lesser event, but it’s really taking away the impact of the word by mixing it with a petty misdemeanor.
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Hmmmmmm. Curious that the rape capital of the world is in a black country.
Must be coincidence.
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The inability of blacks worldwide to run their own affairs in a dignified and non chaotic manner is on display everyday for anyone not willfully blind or terminally stupid. So, what do we do? We elect one of their own as President of the U.S. Way to go, America!
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I don’t like the direction this thread is taking.
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Yes, women do this more than men, but you’ll find men using the same tactics. Conflating a slap with a beating, for instance. Or even better – conflating a slap with the verb of “to beat” your woman, which has no time constraints and may or may not be a regular habit.
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What’s wrong with chastity belts?
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Chastity belts are a preventive measure. The whole point of this is to punish the guy.
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This would just increase ass rape
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If this catches on, count on it showing up in a thousand romantic comedies in short order.
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If this became common , there would be very few rapes even if those who were raped got their heads bashed in.
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What kind of girl would seriously tolerate one of these? Most won’t even use insertable birth control.
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I can see why this is big “news,” but is this thing really going to catch on?
Even ignoring the “enraged rapist pummeling you to death” problem, is any woman going to wear one of these things 24/7 just so it’s there when she gets raped? Or, put another way, if there’s a high enough chance of getting raped at a particular location that you need ‘gina teeth, how about not going there to begin with. I guess in SA, “there” is “everywhere,” but still . . . .
Seems more useful as an urban legend, something the mere existence of which might deter some less-determined perps.
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I don’t get what’s so scary about vagina dentata. I mean, mouths have teeth.
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This reminds me of an article that stuck in my head from several years ago. Especially the “If a girl abstains . . .” part.
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“Abstinence campaign not understood by youth”
THE anti-Aids ABC message – Abstain, Be faithful and use Condoms – has left many of the continent’s youth confused, a conference in Durban heard this week.
In a survey of 1766 pupils conducted in the Valley of a Thousand Hills near Durban, only one schoolgirl said: “Abstinence is not having sex until one is married.”
Being faithful was also an area of concern. Only two pupils in the survey made any reference to one’s partner when asked what “being faithful” meant.
The survey conducted by the Valley Trust, the Child Development Research Unit and funded by the United States President’s Emergency Plan for Aids Relief (Pepfar) was to find out how schoolchildren between the ages of 11 and 15 understood the ABC message.
Tobey Nelson of an organisation called Horizons said the survey showed that abstinence, being faithful and consistent condom usage are behaviour patterns that were not thought to be common or feasible.
The Valley of a Thousand Hills survey found that peer pressure, coercion and rape were barriers to abstinence for girls.
“If a girl abstains and boys know that, they then want to rape that girl because they know that she does not have Aids. The bad thing is that they want to kill that girl after rape,” one schoolgirl said.
Peer pressure was also described as a barrier to being faithful.
“When you tell them (peers) that you don’t have a girlfriend or you only have one girlfriend they just laugh at you, saying that you are stupid,” said one schoolboy.
Delegates were repeatedly told that messages about abstinence, being faithful and using condoms had to be clear, non-contradictory and had to take cultural practices into account.
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From the article:
Once its in place, it can only be removed by a doctor
This isn’t like a gunshot wound. Someone caught in this who wasn’t guilty would be well advised to go to the doctor and not screw around trying to remove it themselves. But whatever the process is they have documented for doctors to follow will become public in short order. I’m guessing carefully cut the very tip of the device off to free up room to move (hooks are one way), and then carefully cut from the base along the length of the device (perhaps two cuts, one on each side). A pair of blunt tipped scissors would seem like the best way to make the cuts.
Or more simply, what happens if you go swimming in cold water (like George in Seinfeld)? Given the scarcity of cold water for swimming in SA, perhaps carrying a picture of Nancy Pelosi will become probable cause for suspicion of attempted rape.
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Rape and assault statistics, especially those around college campuses, often are highly inflated.
One famous researcher considered “rape” any sexual encounter: after the woman consumed any amount of drugs or alcohol, when the woman expressed any regret after the fact – no matter how long after the fact, and other similar situations that clearly do not fit the standard definition of rape.
Resources below
http://falserapesociety.blogspot.com/
Campus Rape Myth by Heather Mac Donald
http://www.city-journal.org/2008/18_1_campus_rape.html
This one is famous. Abstract below link. 41% false allegations.
False Rape Allegations by Eugene J Kanin
http://falserapearchives.blogspot.com/2009/06/archives-of-sexual-behavior-feb-1994.html
“With the cooperation of the police agency of a small metropolitan community, 45 consecutive, disposed, false rape allegations covering a 9 year period were studied.
These false rape allegations constitute 41% the total forcible rape cases (n = 109) reported during this period. These false allegations appear to serve three major functions for the complainants: providing an alibi, seeking revenge, and obtaining sympathy and attention. False rape allegations are not the a consequence of a gender-linked aberration, as frequently claimed, but reflect impulsive and desperate efforts to cope with personal and social stress situations.”
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Rape a girl in my neighborhood and the local boys will find you and punish you. A violent, uncivilized society is bad for business and bad for gaming.
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Just in case you ever are accused of wrongdoing…
Here’s an excellent YouTube video by a legal professor James Duane explaining our 5th Amendment rights. 48 minutes long
He says never answer police questions, even if you are innocent… ESPECIALLY if you are innocent.
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The way I heard it is that after fucking LR one night, the doctor was so traumatized that he was driven insane and devoted his life to finding a way to inflict the agonizing experience on other unsuspecting guys.
The whole idea of this being a rape preventative was just an afterthought.
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Call me inexperienced, but I’ve never quite understood how any of these “female condoms” are supposed to work. It’s not like the vulva has a rigid ring on the outside you can attach things to. I should think the result after intercourse would be one female condom all bunched up against the cervix.
Unless the device is rigid enough to be self-supporting, in which case you’re basically banging a Fleshlight which just happens to be stuck inside a lady’s nethers. Not my idea of fun.
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But I wonder what kind of legal ramifications will confront the first woman who forgets to remove the artificial vagina dentata and maims her boyfriend’s or husband’s penis?
Simple answer: NONE
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This man deserves a standing ovation. Being cheap while maintaining the respect and arousal of a woman is commendable, if not alpha. Compare with all those rappers and sultans who throw money at women to keep them interested. (Best is the rich men who lure the golddiggers in without delivering the jewels.)
And the woman respects him for it. This is the proper tone of a relationship.
A female condom that chemically induces a limp dick (if chemically possible) would be a far better idea. Or just simply arming chicks with handguns.
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Females and consequences, Roissy? Surely you jest! Now, true, this was invented in South Africa, where there probably is an actual problem with people being raped – but how long until Oprah has a show on it and it takes off here amongst the entitlement princess, “almost raped” crowd? How long until there are FaceBook groups with names like “Penis mutilators anonymous”? If women didn’t find betas so undesirable, being resistant to let them stick them in the first place, I could almost see such penis mutilation of betas becoming fashionable. Wouldn’t it be the perfect expression of their anti-beta ids?
By the way, not a pleasant thought, but where’s the “ass condom” with hooks? Y’know, since most rapes take place in prisons, and because feminists are all about ekualatee. Right?
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If a woman does by accident she’ll just say she was raped, so SHE doesn’t owe anything……
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Giovonny
“Rape a girl in my neighborhood and the local boys will find you and punish you. A violent, uncivilized society is bad for business and bad for gaming.”
This is true, but fairly unrelated to the discussion at hand.
No one on the thread is arguing for rape to be legal. Moreover, demonizing and terrorizing men because an exceedingly small portion of men sometimes commit a horrific crime against a woman (not “against women,” as if sex crimes have political overtones) is not the answer.
Let me fix your sentence:
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RapeGet accused of raping a girl in my neighborhood and the localboyscops and feminist cluckers will find you andpunish youabandon all pretense of fairness to drag your ass through the mud regardless of the truth of the allegation.”There, now it describes America today.
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I guess these condoms make a really strong case for foreplay. I mean, I’d rather mangle my finger.
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At a point it seems like girls are not worth the hassle.
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Basil,
Hilarious. I love this line:
“Now, I don’t want to sound ungrateful.”
you know what’s coming next…a big BUUUUUUUT that indicates she IS ungrateful.
“I should have known life with Tom would turn out this way. ”
Code for “I knew all the red flags but I married him anyway, and now I’m mad her turned out to be the man he always was! And now I’m going to try to humiliate him in print for not changing into the profligate Prince Charming I always wanted!”
That all being said, this guy does live an unusually austere lifestyle; I couldn’t handle modern life without washing and drying machines. That just makes her more of a moron for marrying him; I’m sure she thought she’d be able to change him by introducing him to the conveniences of modern life because “if you loved me you’d get that Maytag I’ve always wanted.”
This woman is completely unaccountable, telling us zero details of why she chose to marry this man and acting as if he was assigned to her by her Grade 13 instructor. Why doesn’t she just pay for her own life instead of mooching off a husband? Oh wait: “If I were in control of the family finances, we would never have saved a penny.”
Most people in today’s world have no understanding of money. The irony is that living comfortably and still being frugal is not hard.
Beta move: “Mind you, that was another case in point. You are traditionally meant to spend the equivalent of a month’s salary on the ring, but Tom cunningly made sure to guide me towards the cheaper rings.”
Why cunningly guide? Just tell the woman “I’m not spending any more than $X on a showoff bauble.”
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Gorbachev–
You should make clear that nation you’re talking about is South Africa.
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@Gorbachev–
A 2009 report by the nation’s Medical Research Council found that 28 percent of men surveyed had raped a woman or girl, with one in 20 saying they had raped in the past year. It is also believed that 16 percent of the population is living with HIV.
You should make clear that nation you’re talking about is South Africa.
This is what I mean. The SAfrican results are going to be used to slag the rest of us here. Watch. It’s because men are all the same. Just listen to it. This study will tar American men as much as SAfrican men.
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Doug1,
After the bogus rape studies of American colleges, we have to wonder what the South Africa MRC’s definition of rape is.
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Philosopher–
Yes. Well I’ve sometimes violated this w/non federal cops but then I’m a lawyer even if not practicing as one for some time, and it’s only been when the issues were simple. It’s good general advice.
This is particularly important when the FBI want to question you. Very few people know this, but lying to the FBI or other federal law enforcement officials even when not under oath, is treated as perjury by the courts just as if you were under oath. I know incredible. But true. Note this applies not just to bald lies, but also to shading the truth a bit, i.e not telling “the whole truth and nothing but the truth” on an issue you’ve answered at all. This is very dangerous if they decide they want to go after you. (It’s what Martha Steward was actually convicted of.) So refuse w/out counsel. Good criminal defense counsel. They will threaten to arrest you much more often than they really will or can (or rather will hold up in court w/out they’re being chastized by judge and likely their superiors in all but very publicly charged cases.)
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Oh, for the non plutocrats among you, I’d recommend just refusing to answer all but the most basic questions such as who you are and where you live, etc. w/out a lawyer. Who you’re only go to go to the expense of bringing in if they arrest you. But do this in a dispassionate, not outraged, even better a courteous way. Classy. So they can’t arrest you for “resisting arrest” or “disturbing the peace” and so on. (Something blacks esp. but not only black males so often seem to have a hard time controlling w/the police. All that aggressiveness and culturally learned chip on shoulder about “the man”.)
Don’t agree to voluntarily go down to their station house “to help clear this thing and your name up”. If you do they may well hold you there for quite awhile implying you’re eventually going to get arrested if you don’t start talking. They’re not supposed to do this though and if you mistakenly do go down to the station (don’t), quickly ask, well am I free to go or are you going to arrest me – based on nothing?
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Gorbachev–
I would bet big money that a survey of South Africa’s white men (who make up about 12% of the nation’s population) would find radically lower such percentages among this group.
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Sounds like it might create a new market for condoms with specially engineered fang protection. Time to put together some power point slides and start pitching VC’s.
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@Dalrock
Gorbechev,
I get the thrust of your reasoning but I think you have become trapped in a circular argument. One must act carefully if you wish to successfully extract yourself from such a prickly predicament. Stay sharp man!
I don’t know if I can take any more of your biting commentary. All of these cutting remarks are beginning to sink their teeth.
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Lead with the fingers.
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Its good to see that a lot of the main flaws of this device have been pointed out. Such as how easy it would be to remove, avoid, or enrage the rapist. Also, it had to be handed out for free in South Africa, and its already been available for several years.
One of the articles mentioned that they would be available for sale for $2. Last time I checked, don’t most of the impoverished African women whom this was designed for live off of less than $1 a day?
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@doug
“I don’t get what’s so scary about vagina dentata. I mean, mouths have teeth.”
Silliness. While I have not done field studies, I very
much doubt that oral rapes are common, precisely
for that reason.
But the idea of a “Dentata” was expressed by Neil
Stephenson in either Snow Crash or Diamond Age,
both pub 2000.
And, IIRC, he had a better model, hardly painful at all,
just a VERY THIN needle injecting the penis with
some fast-acting barbiturate, not enough to kill
an average man, put to put him WAY asleep.
When he wakes up, chances are he will not know
what happened.
Thor
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This device be racist.
It has a disproportionate impact on black men.
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@Trimegistus
“Call me inexperienced,”
You’re inexperienced.
“but I’ve never quite understood how any of these “female condoms” are supposed to work. . . I should think the result after intercourse would be one female condom all bunched up against the cervix.”
There are two rigid rings, similar to the ring that holds a diaphragm in place. One ring is at the top of a closed latex tube. That ring is pinched together and then inserted deep into the vagina and placed up against the pubic bone which holds it up. The other ring is at the open end of the latex tube. It remains open and prevents the condom from migrating up the vagina. I’ve never used one, but it looks uncomfortable.
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Always look before you leap.
Fingers first, you’ve got ten of them.
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So a woman’s expected to go around with two rigid plastic rings inside her on the off-chance someone’s going to rape her? Or is she supposed to tell the guy to wait while she puts it in?
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@Doug1
Yes. Well I’ve sometimes violated this w/non federal cops but then I’m a lawyer even if not practicing as one for some time, and it’s only been when the issues were simple. It’s good general advice.
This is particularly important when the FBI want to question you.
Very few people know this, but lying to the FBI or other federal law enforcement officials even when not under oath, is treated as perjury by the courts just as if you were under oath. I know incredible. But true.
Note this applies not just to bald lies, but also to shading the truth a bit, i.e not telling “the whole truth and nothing but the truth” on an issue you’ve answered at all. This is very dangerous if they decide they want to go after you. (It’s what Martha Steward was actually convicted of.)
THANKS! I had forgotten this federal item, thank you for the refresher.
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Doug1
What law enforcement questions are we required to answer? name and address? Is one required to show a picture ID if asked? Or does this vary by state?
Good advice about feds. Does this apply to all feds? How about the IRS?
I presume nearly everyone who is an innocent non-criminal wants to be cooperative with law enforcement. I think that way.
Professor Duane’s advice turns this idea on its head.
His Miranda warning thoughts are worth watching the entire video. “Anything you say can and will be used against you.” What you say to law enforcement can be used to convict you, but it cannot be used to exonerate you.
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Well , its only a matter of time before this is countered by a Kevlar condom coated with Teflon.
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“What law enforcement questions are we required to answer? name and address? Is one required to show a picture ID if asked? Or does this vary by state?”
This went all the way up to the Supreme Court, ca 1977.
A black man in dreadlocks (rare back then) took long
walks through Beverly Hills around 2 a.m.
BH cops stopped him and wanted to know what was going
on.
The upshot, according to the Supremes: The
cops have a right to ask your name and address,
and you have an obligation to answer. (If you don’t,
presumably this is grounds for hauling you in.)
HOWEVER, you are NOT obliged to provide any documentation, such as ID card or similar.
Thor
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“Cloud
This would just increase ass rape”
And I heard of a medico that AIDS rarely spreads penis to vag but spreads very easily dick to arse (because of rupturing). So this thing will also increase the spread of AlDS.
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And if he turns this thing inside-out, a man can wear this as a protection against unwanted sex. Sounds very interesting for the married man, to keep the old wife away.
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@Trimegistus
“So a woman’s expected to go around with two rigid plastic rings inside her on the off-chance someone’s going to rape her? Or is she supposed to tell the guy to wait while she puts it in?”
No, I was describing the regular female condom, not the Rape-aXe. I suppose that if a woman is using the regular condom to prevent pregnancy and disease, she just excuses herself, goes to the bathroom and inserts it–like she would a diaphragm.
The Rape-aXe looks very different. It looks like a rigid tube. Google a picture.
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@Gorbachev
I don’t know if I can take any more of your biting commentary. All of these cutting remarks are beginning to sink their teeth.
I knew it! Having been caught by your own rigid thinking, you now want to shrink away from the debate.
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@dalrock
@Gorbachev
I don’t know if I can take any more of your biting commentary. All of these cutting remarks are beginning to sink their teeth.
I knew it! Having been caught by your own rigid thinking, you now want to shrink away from the debate.
I think it’s time to retreat. To sheathe the sword and clothe the tenets of this debate in more gentle terms.
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Boy, talk about a Biting Beaver. Maybe she finally decided to channel her fantasies into an invention.
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Three words: toxic shock syndrome.
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