What would be your criteria for the greatest job a man could have in the world? I’ll list what I think should be your criteria:
- Continual exposure to a variety of young, pretty, naked women
- Willingness of a significant subset of those young, pretty women to sleep with you
- An occupational dynamic that requires leadership skills in the form of ordering young, pretty women to do your bidding
- Very little competition from other men in the field, or on the job
- Relatively high pay
- Relatively high status
- Minimal amount of rote work
- Maximal amount of fun and creativity
- Lots of travel to exotic and charming locations around the globe
- Plenty of opportunity to discreetly cheat, if married or otherwise committed
Is there a man alive with working testicles who wouldn’t agree with my description of the perfect male job? No, I bet not.
So what is the greatest job in the world?
Kern has been taking photographs of attractive naked women for 25 years in countries around the world. Young women in various states of undress. Naked women in pools. Naked women in showers. Naked women smoking pot. Naked women combing their hair. Naked women on all fours scrubbing the floor. And, presumably, naked women sucking his dick after work hours.
I know what you’re thinking. Kern is not gay. He’s married to a hot chick more than half his age. Kern is in his 50s, but he looks younger and, more importantly for men interested in picking up younger women, he *acts* like a man half his age. His is a life of unrelenting joy and exquisite pleasure. If there is a heaven on earth, Kern has found it. When asked if he has slept with any of his subjects, he is not coy, admitting that he’s had a number of sexual relationships with the ladies he photographs.
Surprisingly, Kern does a lot of his shooting with a pocket digital camera. He prefers capturing in voyeuristic style the natural beauty of the girl-next-door, the kind of girl you most want to despoil. Kern is almost clinical about the sexuality of his subjects that infuses his work, going on for impressive lengths about the shape, size, color and texture of the great megafauna of breastessesss constantly bouncing in front of his camera lens. Reminds me of someone else.
Some may wonder if it’s Kern’s job that attracts the girls, or if the job is merely incidental to Kern’s seductive alphaness. It’s more the latter, but no doubt photography, and the men skilled at it, are especially attractive to women, probably for the reason that any visual-based skill or artistry, being primarily the domain of maleness, is naturally intriguing to the visuo-spatially challenged sex. But that is a minor effect. The status of Kern’s job, and his status within the field, is the predominant attractor when we separate his personality from his achievements. Men who excel in female-oriented fields are also very attractive to women.
I bet you’re curious about Kern’s wife. I was. So I found this illuminating documentary video of Kern and Martynka. It’s short, about 11 minutes. You should watch the whole thing. It is 11 minutes demonstrating the power of pure game. What comes out of the video is just what a natural player Kern is, and the classic seduction and alpha male dynamics which hold powerful sway over the pretty Martynka’s emotional fidelity to her husband.
Some choice quotes:
Interviewer: Do you ever get jealous?
Martynka: No, I actually… it’s a weird thing… but it turns me on that he’s like shooting 18 year old hot girls. I find it exciting. I don’t get bored of him in that sense, because… I know it sounds weird but I actually thinks it’s cool he’s out, hanging out with like some 18 year old girl in her bedroom, showing him her tits, and um, it keeps things exciting for me, cause that little bit of jealousy makes my obsession last longer.
You don’t say!
I remember when I wrote that “women want you to cheat” post it engendered howls of indignation from my many female commenters. Oh, how you say… what was it again?…. oh yah…
Watch what women do, don’t listen to what they say.
What about the proposal? Certainly an inveterate and experienced womanizer like Kern would know better than to drop to one knee and beg for indentured servitude. Does Richard Kern follow my advice and propose to Martynka like an alpha male? Does a herb load in his pants?
Interviewer: So you guys got married in June. Was the proposal special, was it kind of romantic?
Martynka: It was very Richard style.
Interviewer: What was it?
Martynka: He didn’t really propose. But it was really cute. Cause he was so nervous about it.
Interviewer: So he kind of proposed but didn’t propose?
Martynka: No, he didn’t even say what it is.
[Scene switch]
Interviewer: Tell me about when you proposed to Martynka?
Richard: Oh, um, I couldn’t actually say the words that you have to say to do that, and, um…
Interviewer: Will you marry me?
Richard: Yeah. So, I, um, I didn’t have a birthday present for us, see, and I knew she had to get married to get a green card, so I tried to pass it off as my birthday present.
Interviewer: She said it took like 45 minutes to understand what you were asking.
Richard: Yeah, I never actually said it. [Ed: Richard almost sounds proud of this. Ha!]
But this was my favorite Kern-ism:
Richard: I’m fine with being married as long as I don’t have to talk about it, or acknowledge it.
Talk about a cunt-wetting frame.
By the way, Kern stole Martynka away from her much younger boyfriend. As the internet nerd herd might say: THIS.
Now that’s a way to live.
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Cads > Dads… for life.
Wow, I knew I should have been a photographer. I’m still kind of young… Maybe it’s not too late.
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Richard Kern is a role model to us all.
I’d even rate him more highly than Silvio Berlusconi on the alpha scales, since he’s nowhere near as rich or as powerful as the greatest Italian Prime Minister.
If I was a single man, I’d go into photography.
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HAHA! I love it, my fave line: Richard: “I’m fine with being married as long as I don’t have to talk about it, or acknowledge it”.
Beautiful…to me.
thelp999
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…And the hamster wheels across the land spun with such violent speed, propelled into the upper atmosphere with enough gina tingles and special snowflakes to last them throughout the eons.
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I always thought being a photographer was rather cliche. I think I’ll have a change of heart. Where’s my camera…
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If you were a young intelligent man, and you saw Kern’s luck with the ladies; and you saw Bernie Circuitboard, the brilliant physicist, sneaking home with his Penthouse Confessions, what profession would you rather?
But if all scholarly types decide to abandon their pursuits, in order to find more girl-friendly professions, then what becomes of society?
That’s why a wide proliferation of game knowledge might not be good for the world. Men would spend less time on their pursuits; their hobbies and their careers, and more time in the Great Hunt.
Indeed, incompetence with women is one of the great engines of our society. It’s the force that drove betas to greater and greater achievements: Would Dante have written the Divine Comedy, if he’d been able to game Beatrice?
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i’d run Sharia Law Game on them and cut off their hands.
OOPS WRONG THREAD!!
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I knew a photographer who did work for Playboy. He was surrounded by chicks, but wasn’t getting anywhere.
It’s not the job, but the man.
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some people accept the saying, “the world needs ditch diggers too.” I don’t think the same people would want to agree that “the world needs omega drones too.” But that’s what it seems like is happening. Maybe game will set the drones free and even the score.
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Reading the list I immediately thought Hef! Must be referring to Hugh Hefner, founder of Playboy.
But I guess that would be too “mainstream”. Not everyone is cool enough to praise obscure no-name guys doing what someone else is famous for doing on a much larger scale and for a far longer period of time.
Its important to be cool isn’t it?
Stay cool.
(Am aware of how masc that sounds, tis the point)
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I thought you were going to write about Merlin Bronques.
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@ Anon
I’ve got a friend who is a photographer who doesn’t go to anywhere near enough of that effort in his work as the guy in the post, he doesn’t even photograph women for a living – yet he is as some of the guys on here would put it ‘swimming in poon’.
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Nice Job he he he
I am thinking having money rolling in and all the time in the world would be the greatest “job”
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Cannon’s Canon:
Thank you for the best laugh of my day so far.
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Mind blown.
He looks like a herb.
But then everything else screams out that he has balls the size of Jupiter.
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It is a nice job, but I can think of other jobs I would rather have.
I would rather choose to be an in demand male pornstar: you get paid to fuck hot chicks.
…or be the lead singer in a great indie rock band since women throw themselves at hot musicians.
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notice that she says, “my boyfriend at the time was really into him.”
do youurself a favor, guys; don’t idolize other men. it basically gives your woman license to lust after the object of your schoolboy crush.
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“women want you to cheat”
Women want you to cheat with someone hotter and younger. Because if you can cheat with a hot babe, it means you are a high-status alpha.
What women really hate is if you cheat with someone ugly or uglier than the woman in question. She will take it as a personal insult and proof that she has wasted her time with you when she could have done so much better.
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A nudie photographer who is not gay and has balls… ya that will make him a standout.
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Good photo album for when he retires. Most guys have grainy shots of a couple of skanky exes, this guy’s got proper lighting, videos, everything.
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Also, the second girl in the video looks like Jessica Valenti.
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He also looks like he’s about 6’4″, but it could be the camera angle.
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@j r
You’re on point about this…it’s like guys who wear jerseys of their favorite sports heroes…they might as well hold up a sign that says “Hey this is who your husband should be”
TG
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Reminds me of when I helped my instructor clean up his old negatives collection in the photography club. There was lots of stuff there that a healthy 14-year old boy was very much interested in. No actual porn of course, but still lots of artsy nudes of pretty girls.
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I love how he looks at the camera at just the right moment with a knowing look that contradicts the words coming out of his mouth.
Pure game.
I’m also starting to think that for me I want kids but I’m not going to marry to have them. My girlfriends are just going to have to have them. I’ll take care of them because they’re mine, but marriage is too much a trap these days.
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“@j r
You’re on point about this…it’s like guys who wear jerseys of their favorite sports heroes…they might as well hold up a sign that says “Hey this is who your husband should be” ”
Yes.
It’s pretty bad to see couples in jerseys, where the guy has obviously failed to realize that female fanboys are basically GROUPIES.
However, fanboys would probably PAY to see their idol bang their girl.
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By the way, Kern stole Martynka away from her much younger boyfriend. As the internet nerd herd might say: THIS
Is there something missing after the “THIS” ?
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One of the best times of my life was when I had my last business and we were doing video and still shoots at my store with strippers and models.
Sure, the guy with the camera has status, but the producer/director (ME!) didn’t lack for attention from the models either.
Any guy who has any doubts whatsoever about the power of the camera and everything that goes along with it should place an ad on Craigslist looking for “models” 18-24 to be in a TV commercial. State very clearly that this is NOT a paid gig, and that you will offer copies of all of the materials for their portfolio in exchange for their time.
I can guarantee you that if you live in a decent size metro area your inbox will be filling up within hours. When I ran these kinds of ads I would usually get 12-20 hits from chicks who were plump but cute and never been in front of a camera before, all the way to established models who within the next year went on to shoot for Playboy.
My next little side project is to pick up a dSLR and start getting some shots of my g/f. She bartends one night a week at a strip club, so if I have enough fun shooting her I can probably talk her into recruiting a few coworkers. That could be fun……
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I can’t thank you enough for these tutorials, Roissy.
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One caveat: It’s much more juice inducing when a professional photographer tells his lady he spent the day shooting luscious tatas. It doesn’t go over quite as well when a regular dude says it. Context matters. Induce jealousy appropriately.
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The cover of Sonic Youth’s second-best album, EVOL, featured a still taken from a Richard Kern film called Submit to Me. The actress was named Lung Leg. The album was from 1986. Sonic Youth has always been ahead of the curve….they put a Gerhard Richter painting on the cover of Daydream Nation (1988) and they had a Madonna obsession in the 1980s, when it was uncool to appreciate her impact.
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Agree with 4:46…
Craigslist Ad more models is best gig to meet models.
You will need a spreadsheet to book the responses.
Models will come to you.
Whether you say you r a hobbyist or want to take pics next to your vintage furniture collection (also bought on Craigs)…they will come.
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“She’s a practicing Christian and proud of it”
“I wish the Christians I know would do this”
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So on topic.
There are three parts of this interview. All I can say is wow. Watch this and you will see what American women think is a acceptable way to act to the men in their lives.
Unsurprisingly the women that watched this call Jake a loser and the ubiquitously used catchall- creep.
Spoiled, self centered, and delusional. Just wow.
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Best job is manager at model agency Elite in Paris
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One thing I think guys miss is how important it is to be strait forward and unapologetic about the things you do. For instance:
“When asked if he has slept with any of his subjects, he is not coy, admitting that he’s had a number of sexual relationships with the ladies he photographs.”
Other guys would deny or avoid the subject. It is this characteristic, and this mindset in general that women find so attractive.
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Amazing the contrast between the American girl in the video Game in BK posted and the two Spanish girls in the Kern video. The Spanish girls are laid back and elegant and the American girl is a shrill basketcase. Typical.
Another problem though is that Bachelor guy has poor game. I only watched the first episode but he tries to come off like aMr. Perfect Nice Guy with very little edge, which is why that girl is acting like that in the first place. You can be nice looking and have a good job like him, and that’ll get you the girl, but if you have shitty game look what happens. It all falls apart.
[editor: good observations.]
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Game_in_BK
how in the hell did you sit thru that?
SMDH emotional roadkill
5:02- he was in full on alpha mode.
5:14- phoney tears.
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””””on July 6, 2010 at 5:40 pm Tyler
One thing I think guys miss is how important it is to be strait forward and unapologetic about the things you do. For instance:
“When asked if he has slept with any of his subjects, he is not coy, admitting that he’s had a number of sexual relationships with the ladies he photographs.”
Other guys would deny or avoid the subject. It is this characteristic, and this mindset in general that women find so attractive.
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I agree.
””””on July 6, 2010 at 3:06 pm Cannon’s Canon
i’d run Sharia Law Game on them and cut off their hands.
OOPS WRONG THREAD!!
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Probably the right thread you just want to run sharia on any woman not with you typical elite he he he
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Thing is, if you’re a photographer, the pictures come first. You can’t be apologising to your girlfriend, and you cannot allow a frame where that is tolerable. I don’t think it’s even an alpha/beta thing, there just isn’t a reality where that would be an issue, and so it isn’t.
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I’ve been thinking of taking up photography for the reasons you’ve stated. I travel a lot so I would also get some non-poon related value from it.
Watch what women do, don’t listen to what they say.
You can’t repeat this too much.
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I disagree with your premise. I’ve found in the past that when I turn a hobby into a job, it becomes boring. I don’t want sex to become boring. My job involves research and development, and I find it fulfilling and addicting in its own right.
@lovelysexybeauty – zing!
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I agree, photographing nude women for a living would be a pretty damn good job, but it’s important to note that in order to benefit from the status boost the camera gives you it isn’t necessary to change your career.
With a basic working knowledge of a camera and lighting and a little bit of game you could just as easily do this stuff on the weekends and still clean house.
Craigslist baby, Craigslist.
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I would be wary of jumping into ~alpha professions~ like photography assuming that it’s going to get you easy poon. This reminds me of when I was into amateur modeling for a while. We can spot the wannabe-alphas who act like they really care about ~the art~ but are obviously mainly doing it for the chicks (especially when said photographers are divorced, in their 40s and want you to come to their ~basement studio~). It was just amusing and annoying, and few photographers cared about the art I wanted to create.
Also, everyone was trying to get me to do nudes/lingerie when I clearly stated in my profile that I don’t do those things. How disrespectful! One guy even tried to convince me for thirty minutes that I had some sort of sexual dysfunction for not wanting to take my clothes off for this strange man I’ve never met. I insulted his shitty photos and he signed off rofl. Persistent game fail.
I disagree that knowing the photographer is a huge slut makes him more attractive to healthy-minded females. You might be confusing women feeling *safer* around men with gfs/ample access to pussy because it seems less likely that they will take their sexual deprivation out on you, with women actively wanting them more. It personally grosses me out from ever dating them as they go into the “probably has STDs and four illegitimate children” pile.
[editor: it may gross you out, but for most chicks a man surrounded by willing women is viscerally more attractive and fuckable.]
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@Schmoe
I do believe one’s job can be the thing one is more interested in and still not become boring. Look at me, my only job is to capture food, and yet, after thousands of years, I still find it endlessly entertaining.
You just need the right frame (and by this I don’t mean frame those who’re right, unless it amuses you of course), the food always does something stupid to amuse me, I’m sure one can find something new and surprising with practically everything one can do.
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on July 6, 2010 at 5:24 pm Game_IN_BK
So on topic.
There are three parts of this interview. All I can say is wow. Watch this and you will see what American women think is a acceptable way to act to the men in their lives.
Unsurprisingly the women that watched this call Jake a loser and the ubiquitously used catchall- creep.
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Hi Game In BK!
I watched this season of the bachelor and fell madly in love with Jake. He’s actually perfect hubby material. The problem is he let go of all the sweet good girls and at the end he picked the one that gave him the hardest boner-Vienna. Throughout the show all the signs were there that Vienna was a spoiled brat (she’s an only child and young, she’s 21 or 22). So, it’s Jake’s lack of experience with women that got him into this Vienna mess. He’s a dumb-dumb. There were a lot of American women on the show that were super sweet.
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I read the first 3 or 4 lines and new Photographer was the job he was hinting at. I’ve known a few and they do have hot girl…friends that they party with, but very few actually have game. Game with lifestyle is powerful. Lifestyle without game is just constant blue balls and frustration sprinkled with oneitis and occasional event sex (birthday sex, big party and she got smashed sex, etc). Any guy with Game who wants to have a great lifestyle most certainly should look into Hot Chick dominated gigs, such as modeling, promoting, photography, etc. Anything that is tertiarty to those jobs is also worth looking into.
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I guessed “owning a strip joint.” I suspect there are more successful strip joint owners than photographers.
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Damn! His job makes me thirsty!
Can there be a better occupation on the planet? And that cowboy’s freakin’ married! I could just envy the single dude who rolls like that, but married?!? (last sentence, right of comma in shrill italics)
This guy’s relationship with his wife is proof positive that most men don’t know shit about what makes it wet.
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anonymous Hi Game In BK!
I watched this season of the bachelor and fell madly in love with Jake
dude, use your real handle.
You don’t have to go all anonymous on us cause you watched the bachelor while eating truffle fries with your girlfriend and her friends. I bet you wuss weeped when Vienna brought out those crocodile tears huh?
I bet that made you the kitchen itch too.
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Watch what women do, don’t listen to what they say.
That applies equally as well to men.
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You can be a photographer.
Or you can be a photographer in, say, Korea. Before you try this here, check out this:
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2010/07/excellence-of-execution-video-of-starcraft-mastery.ars
Thousands of Korean men spend hours every day in PC Bangs instead of … banging their women.
If you’re an actual man who likes women, it’s virtually impossible for you not to score all the time there.
The men are self-selecting themselves out of the dating/sex market at an astonishing rate.
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Pierre Woodman seems to one of the happiest guys around.
http://www.eteignezvotreordinateur.com/choc-un-casting-x-de-pierre-woodman/
Note the name of the website: “switch off your computer.com”
excellent advice!
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Completely offtopic, but good GOD is Diane Keaton a fuckin’ harridan..
(watching _Sleeper_, but for some reason she’s just a natural at playing the entitled, caterwauling harpy.. Must be Method acting..)
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on July 6, 2010 at 7:00 pm chic noir
anonymous Hi Game In BK!
I watched this season of the bachelor and fell madly in love with Jake
dude, use your real handle.
You don’t have to go all anonymous on us cause you watched the bachelor while eating truffle fries with your girlfriend and her friends. I bet you wuss weeped when Vienna brought out those crocodile tears huh?
I bet that made you the kitchen itch too.
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ChicNoir. It’s me me me. I’m the cutest girl, yup, that’s MEEEE!! 🙂
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God bless you Roissy for bringing this to us. I am going to officially nominate you for a Nobel Prize for your service to humanity.
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I was going to mention Pierre Woodman as well. The guy has bedded around 4000 women, however, as porn director, sex is pretty much automatically the 1st conversation topic. The transition to him fucking the naive 18 year old isn’t as difficult.
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Oh mememe, well why didn’t you use your handle.
*chic noir gives mememe a girl hug*
and here I was thinking you were some vegan bird chested male-feminist Elvis Costello glasses wearing herb omega.
Tupac: call me when you two start hair pulling so I can throw a bottle of baby oil on you.
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Nutz-
That’s 100% correct.
Photography will bring you the women but not necessarily the pussy. You still have to show value to get laid, aside from the odd “gimme” that inevitably gets thrown your way. I really wish I wasn’t going through other shit in my life when I was dealing with all of those girls, cause I could have cleaned house.
On a side note…..one of the best props you can have in a bachelor pad is a video camera (preferably something that looks professional) sitting on a tripod in plain view right in your living room. Stage it with some bags and other gear so it looks like you just didn’t have time to put it away. You would be surprised at how many chicks will ask you to break it out when you are fucking them.
Hell, even having a point and shoot still cam sitting on the table has gotten me a “bring your camera” from a chick as I was leading her up to my bedroom.
There’s something in every woman that makes a camera bring out a different side in them.
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I am well aware of your aversion to libertarian philosophy, and I share some of your concerns about it, but the article below is an extremely interesting look at the psychology of libertarianism versus, say, SWPL liberalism.
http://www.american.com/archive/2010/july/the-spirit-of-independence-the-social-psychology-of-freedom
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“There’s something in every woman that makes a camera bring out a different side in them.”
It’s called “vanity.”
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Dat is da shit!
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Oh, this is the guy who shot those Sonic Youth album covers back in the 80s. I knew the name sounded familiar.
He’s like the King of the Demimonde and shit. No wonder he’s swimming in ass.
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Another profession that grants access to unlimited quality poon would be a woman’s study professor at a large university. You get older they stay the same age. 😛 Nothing like have a teaching assistant hold you, while you pee.
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In the art world, the Earth is flat.
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Author-
You’re speaking my language. Great post.
Hughman-
“He looks like a herb.
But then everything else screams out that he has balls the size of Jupiter.”
–Exactly. Contrast herb game, I’ve been trying to tell you guys. Alphas come in many outside forms fellas.
LSB-
“Not everyone is cool enough to praise obscure no-name guys doing what someone else is famous for doing on a much larger scale and for a far longer period of time.”
–It’s about style and the type of clout a man accumulates in his life (and for what). Being appealing to the mass public isn’t a compliment for a lot of creatives, and not just those hiding behind the fact that they suck and claim they mean to be unpopular. I refer to the good talent being upset that they are getting “funded” by the masses, whose taste is of lower caliber. Some people actually put quality above quantity as artists, and as people for that matter. It’s the business minds that push the numbers game (to each his own). Hef is a business man. Kern is an artist. Hef knew what would sell and kept tabs on the pulse. Kern has taste and an eye for not just woman but for intimacy and erotica.
Not that Hef didn’t have taste per se, but he had to be concerned with other things that allow for less freedom of choice. Kern can see the special feature of each girl and what is erotic about his work is that he leaves slight imperfections, like a small bruise, just like it would be if the girl was before you naked in the flesh, and still polishes up the photo by not leaving the finish too raw. As in he edits with his eye as an artist.
Hef himself would most likely hire someone like Kern. See the irony? Your comparing apples to oranges.
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I think world-famous trance DJs come close to this job description.
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Roissy… wait!! You make fun of herbs married to younger asian women, how is this dude any different..Infact he admits they got married because she wanted a GC, any other guy doing the same would be skewered on your blog
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“I disagree that knowing the photographer is a huge slut makes him more attractive to healthy-minded females. ”
Aren’t you an admitted INTJ? “Healthy-minded” is another way of saying Rational type, which probably constitutes a few percent of all women. Most women are decidedly NOT “healthy-minded.”
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In fact I would venture to guess that Roissy’s game prescriptions are amazingly accurate for Guardian and Artisan types (which are something like 85% of the populations), maybe less so (at least as far as specifics) for Rationals and Idealists.
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“Another profession that grants access to unlimited quality poon would be a woman’s study professor at a large university. ”
Haha.
“Now, students, make sure to sign up for the extra credit patriarchal power relations workshop, held at my house from 9 to 11 pm…”
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Brad
“There’s something in every woman that makes a camera bring out a different side in them.”
It’s called “vanity.”
Plus naked pics come in handy when dealing with the “gone wrong” type females.
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I liked his sens of calmness…. he is like so in control of his emotions.
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Citizen Renegade.
You’ve so got to tear this socon’s article apart.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/jul/04/boys-men-education-work
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Even though the Spanish girl has banana tits, I saw no sign of structural breakdown. Contrasted with her cookie nipples and you have a delicious and highly fuckable woman. Oh and I thought having her smoke a joint was sheer genius. Kern’s a crafty one. Let her labia become engorged…let her come to you. Genius. Judging by her looks I give her five years of fuckability, and then she’s going to have to return to uni to finish her degree in journalism or psychology.
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Bullshit.
THIS IS THE BEST JOB IN THE WORLD:
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Tyler,
“One thing I think guys miss is how important it is to be strait forward and unapologetic about the things you do.”
B-I-NGO…this is one of those one-truth-of-game kernels. Hesitancy and tentativeness are killers for any leader, whether he’s leading women or men.
Dave from Hawai’i was clear that this attitude was a key to running his now-famed and wildly successful LTR game.
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Let me add to my just-posted…soooo many people are so damn concerned about what other people think they can’t bring themselves to be confident about what they do and how they live, from what job they hold to how they excuse themselves to go to the bathroom.
Girls and beta guys do this ALL THE TIME. That’s why girls crave alpha men who can “loan” them certainty and confidence, and why beta males and nice guys get no junk and get picked on.
Society has bred the average SWPL to be so wrapped up in what’s cool he can’t think for himself or be original without checking first with Happy Herb magazine.
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Nice. I’m a photographer, it’s chick crack. You mentioned that previous post about the beach game, good stuff.
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Niko,
Laughable. Can’t wait to see one of the MRA/PUA sites rip this thing apart, but until then I’ll drop a few chops myself.
“One of the reasons that boys do not try harder is that the penalties for disengagement are so low – indeed, there are even rewards, at least in the sense that if you don’t try, you can’t fail.”
In this respect, men are only catching up to women, who have always had the option of marrying into (relative) comfort instead of making their own bread.
“The great male demotivator is the risk of loss of face – much more important to the masculine self-image of being masterful and in control than to a woman.”
This is just plain not true. Women are probably even more concerned with the loss of social status. Unfortunately modern misandrism has allowed women to project these anxieties onto men.
“For decades boys could follow their fathers into jobs that were routine and demanded little of them – in factories, offices or mines – and which did not expose them to the risk of public failure.”
The columnist is getting near total-bonehead level now…dangerous, exhausting jobs in mills and mines demanded little of men? Really? And the ultimate locker-room environment of a physically-demanding work environment didn’t expose men to public failure with the humiliation of their peers if they didn’t measure up?
“But what about ambition, the sheer hunger for any kind of achievement?”
Still mostly men’s domain.
“An astonishing 26% think a rich career in sport, entertainment or the media is open to them. Why go down to the Jobcentre?”
Again, this option (windfall rather than work) has been open to women for decades via marriage, but if men consider it, they are bad boys?
“And if women are prospering better in this brave new world, it is because they respond to the same signals by fearfully redoubling their efforts to avoid failure. The dark side of all that female diligence and hard work is the epidemic of eating disorders and mental health problems afflicting women.”
The writer has completely exposed himself. He spends an entire column blasting men for “giving up” in the face of new challenges in the world. But when women show the mental and physical scars that comes with the climb up the ladder – well, that’s not really their fault, they are just “fearful.”
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Oh and by the way, photography is one of the lowest paid careers today because of the technology. Everyone can afford a camera and thinks they’re a photographer now. Hell, there are guys just jumping to shoot with a model for FREE, so this lowers the overall value of it. The girls won’t go to the highest paid guy, they’ll go with the free ones.
It’s a dog eat dog competitive field.
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Sniper,
“You might be confusing women feeling *safer* around men with gfs/ample access to pussy because it seems less likely that they will take their sexual deprivation out on you, with women actively wanting them more.”
This may be the biggest hamster-wheel rationalization whopper I’ve ever read. A woman is more comfortable around a sexually active man because other members of her sisterhood fall on the grenade, reducing her chance at getting hit on/raped? Get serious.
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@game in bk/sharpcool
-Nice points, but the bachelor is the fakest shit on tv
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Sniper
We get the fact that womens greatest fear is that their ovaries might be invaded by the sperm of lesser men.
So, if a woman hangs around a Validated Man she can relax. Even if he decides to “rape” her, So what? At least it wasn’t unworthy nice-guy sperm.
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Not even man enough to ask her to marry him. Weak. Total turn-off.
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White Woman
Since the only honest form of truth-telling you are capable of is done with your pussy instead of your typing fingers, why do you bother to come here?
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That Guardian article was ridiculous beyond belief. Well, I can give the author credit for his keen observation skills, managing to notice the fact that young men are not giving a fuck about anything anymore. But it’s obvious that he really doesn’t understand (or maybe is scared to admit?) why it’s happening and so comes up with these illogical reasons. Seriously? Sports and financial sector as the demotivators? You need to be very talented and worked hard for years to become big in either of them. The rest of his article is even worse, you can read it through, but you’ll be shaking your head at every other sentence in disbelief.
Ah, social democracy – another concept that looks cool on paper and then stupid cunts come along and ruin it for everyone. This is why we can’t have nice things, bloody hell, eh, mate?
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Niko/BN,
At first glance, I found nothing particularly offensive in the opening acts of this op-ed
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/jul/04/boys-men-education-work
Indeed, I usually click on every link posted here, if only for the token effort.
As for this particular hashish, the first two meaty paragraphs rang true to me. Not as some rallying cry, but as a valid protest of societal behavior, as if through my own father’s eyes. In a nutshell: he can relate to such sentiment.
And so, I disregarded Niko’s link until BN echoed, and then I set out to disagree.
Sadly for me, there was no disagreement to be had, no “hater gon’ hate”.
The fat man in the profile pic did remind me or inspire me of some noble euro ancestor who was sick of taking shit.
Sadly, looks can be deceiving.
So yeah, this Chris Penn looking fucker is actually a big fat feminist.
Not interested.
Roissy’s adept FEMALE comments can squash a feminist. So don’t call for the God’s thunder whenever you see some pithy ivory warrior figurine trinket.
HMMMM, OK, SHARIA LAW ON HIM, FILLET HIS TORSO!
all better now i hope!
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men like this guy truly put the lie to the idea that women’s ideal necessarily involves commitment.
many alpha players have such an emotional presence, and such an ability to stir up raw love and devotion in the hearts of their women, that their women don’t need absolute sexual fidelity from them — at this level, the emotional and sexual connection is sufficient to satisfy the woman’s needs (and more).
in fact, one of the dirty little secrets of female nature is that sexual fidelity is only something that (most) women will demand from men who have ramped up the beta qualities just a little too far.
in particular, there is a VERY narrow threshold range of “beta qualities” (affection, material provision, non-sexual time together, etc) below which the alpha man will eventually lose his woman, but above which she will want to start controlling/restricting him (increasingly with his distance past the threshold range). the upper end of this threshold gets higher as the man becomes more alpha, i.e., extremely dominant men can “afford” more affection without being labeled commitment targets.
the aforementioned dirty little secret is that sexual fidelity is only wanted –or even seen as a good thing — when the man is past this beta threshold point. if he knows how to give the woman just enough beta/emotional connection to keep her heart hooked, without going too “soft”, most women will never demand any sort of commitment from him, unless said demand is a test that he would fail by giving in.
if he knows women, and he is high alpha AND right at that beta threshold, even the strongest women will almost always be happy — deeply happy — as his bottom bitch, his no. 1 even despite his other playthings and even romantic trysts. less headstrong women will be equally deeply happy with “having something special” with him, even if he has something just as special with several others.
BUT woe betide him if he lets the alpha slip. a woman scorned ain’t nothin’ compared to a woman who paid her heart for gold and got pyrite.
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Rum
We get the fact that womens greatest fear is that their ovaries might be invaded by the sperm of lesser men.
yep.
hence my last line above, re: a woman scorned versus a woman tricked.
this shit is the big leagues, and little fuckups will cost you oh so much more.
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the underlying premise of ALL GAME THEORY:
“watch what women do, do not listen to what they say!”
nice!
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Off topic, but can someone link me to a discussion on this blog about numbers, i.e. how many dicks a girl imbibes before she crosses the threshold into whoredom.
Has it been discussed before? Apologies for the request.
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Jay,
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“Off topic, but can someone link me to a discussion on this blog about numbers, i.e. how many dicks a girl imbibes before she crosses the threshold into whoredom.”
I think Kevin Smith covered that in Clerks.
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CW-
“Everyone can afford a camera and thinks they’re a photographer now.”
–painfully true. And digital makes it hard to take a bad picture so the quality has increased as well. But talent rings through and the posers will be fond out eventually, they could never have careers at it. Funny you should write this sentence when in the thread there were several guys who said that they have thought about becoming a photographer Haha.
johnny five-
–some interesting points you make here. Some of which I can say is true as a woman. I’m an exception though. I’m not a very jealous person by nature. I could have never had an ‘open’ realtionship with a guy in my early to mid twenties because my ego was still developing. Now I’d be cool with it as long as he truly loved me. Shallow shags on the side that I knew about that I also get to watch at times? Yes. Relationships with emotional connections with other women? No. Can’t deal. It’s not my ego that won’t allow it, it’s my heart. I don’t wish to posses his body but I do wish to possess his heart. Doug1 described it well on another thread. The main squeeze must feel safe/loved before and toes go a tappin outside of the realtionship. My eyes adore beauty, so I have no issues with it being naked in front of me, even if my guy’s hands are on it. It would require some ground work to be laid down tightly though.
and yeah….
“BUT woe betide him if he lets the alpha slip. a woman scorned ain’t nothin’ compared to a woman who paid her heart for gold and got pyrite. ”
–you have no idea how much I relate to this. I want my money back. People here just don’t get that guys create images, they aren’t necessarily the real deal in real life. I’ve been with true alphas, so I have a proper comparative scale. None of them lived in their parent’s basement I must say or threw spastic hissy fits in public. What a rip-off that is.
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“I could have never had an ‘open’ realtionship with a guy in my early to mid twenties because my ego was still developing.
…
The main squeeze must feel safe/loved before and toes go a tappin outside of the realtionship.”
Oh baby you poor thing… no woman in her 30s has the value to be the bottom bitch to a man with options.
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Steve-
yeah right. It depends on the condition of her ass, her tits, her face and her loyalty and devotion to the guy. It also depends on the guy’s age. If he’s 45 and she is 33 with an ass of a 25 year old then they may just ride off into the sunset with their bad selves.
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If you work with computer hardware, you’ll often see your house full of spare parts. A video card here, a HD there. For every business, you’ll always have a lot of the thing you work with. That guy work woth women, therefore he’ll have lot of women as result. Same applies to financial market.
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This post is more important that many suspect. In my case I learn and get more value than even good roissy’s posts on game.
Notice every slow movement he makes, the pauses he likes to take, his extremely relaxed facial gestures, almost like he doenst even acknowledge the questions asked to him.
Best part is at the end of the interview about his wife. Extremely powerfull sub-context communication. If you think about it, alpha traits are mostly demonstrated that way.
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Terry Richardson is also a photographer who bangs models. Look him up on google images and you may find some models blowing him. He’s the guy with the huge glasses and pedo look.
Read his wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Richardson
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Mapplethorpe made out pretty well too. Patti Smith was no ten but she did support him in his earlier years. Then he went off to have the lifestyle as well as the perks of being a photographer.
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Quite the opposite, Mr. Rum. I have used my head (which controls my typing fingers), thereby avoided being on the “cock carousel” and other pitfalls, enabling me to have a peaceful, sane life.
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Either that or you’re ugly.
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This just in: “Girls Gone Wild” bad boy Joe Francis engaged to newsbabe with White House connections. Discuss amongst yourselves:
http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlLA/idiot_box/girls_gone_wild_creator_engaged_to_local_kcal_9_reporter_166790.asp
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@White Woman & Dat_Truth_Hurts
“Quite the opposite, Mr. Rum. I have used my head (which controls my typing fingers), thereby avoided being on the “cock carousel” and other pitfalls, enabling me to have a peaceful, sane life.
“Either that or you’re ugly”
This reminds me of something.
Girl who has sex = whore
Girl who doesn’t have sex = frigid & ugly
Hmm, what was it, that’s right boarding school & 15 year old girls. Lol.
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Nope, not ugly. Nice try though darlin’.
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White Woman is alright, for an American girl (had to add in a neg).
No seriously she seem pretty cool (add neg here).
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anouk:
“If he’s 45 and she is 33 with an ass of a 25 year old then they may just ride off into the sunset with their bad selves.”
Guess that might be true.
Now you just have to find this non-existent 33 year old woman with the ass (and skin) of a 25 year old.
Good luck with that.
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But if all scholarly types decide to abandon their pursuits, in order to find more girl-friendly professions, then what becomes of society?
Fuck society, you can have it back.
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What women really hate is if you cheat with someone ugly or uglier than the woman in question.
Yeah, in the end who wants their peers to be old, ugly, and broke down? What galled Elin Woods the most had to be that he was basically doing busted versions of herself. Why was that, Tiger? Hmm?
Also, if you show them you have the option to do better … it’s tingle time. Well, sometimes at least.
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When I started photography 10 years ago I had the chance to shoot a friend’s girlfriend in the nude. I realized then and there that a lot of women, when approached by a competent and non-sleazy appearing photographer, would be willing to get naked for the lens.
Why? they all love the attention and the idea of being the queen bee, the one to be immortalized over her pack.
That said, you as a erotic photographer need to have a well planned out shoot and act in professional manner to “push their limits.”
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Steve-
I’ll take a look around and let you know if such a woman exists. 😉
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anoukange Mapplethorpe made out pretty well too. Patti Smith was no ten but she did support him in his earlier years. Then he went off to have the lifestyle as well as the perks of being a photographer.
Anouk, Mapplethorpe was gay. Closeted gay when he was with Patti. Thank God the two of them stopped sleeping together before he contracted AIDS.
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Helmut Newton? Married for decades to one very loyal, and no doubt patient and discreet woman.
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Chic-
“Anouk, Mapplethorpe was gay.”
–yes, I know. His job kept him in supply of all that is being discussed even if he himself was off chasing peni.
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videos on that site are very nice.
[editor: i enjoyed them.]
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so did pupu, very much.
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I saw a documentary about Terry richardson a couple of years ago…I was baffeled how this average looking nerdy guy was getting laid with models!
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kern looks like a stretched version of woody allen
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stretched vertically by about 1.25x
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pupu says:
July 7, 2010 at 11:25 pm
kern looks like a stretched version of woody allen
hahaha…ew.
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Something is wrong with the links at the top.
The one that supposedly shows him proposing
is instead showing him shooting women in Paris.
Nice, but nothing to do with proposal for marriage.
Thor
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Is it just me that there is no video playing? There is audio, but I cannot see any of the videos. I am located in Canada, I’m not sure if its restricted to US only?
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oh…oh god. i didn’t watch the videos but i heard the conversation between kern/the interviewer/kern’s wife because epoxy is watching the videos across the room.
no offense, i’m sure some of you think kern is the most alphaiest alpha that ever alpha’d, but good lord. i really hope that he’s better on the other side of the camera, because he sounded like one of those weirdly asexual awkward “artist” types. their marriage sounds so…um…awkward. i hope they bring the heat off-camera, because really, i imagine them as the kind of couple who occasionally bumps into each other and has abstract conversations about toothpaste before going their own weird artistic way. their relationship is probably like one of those french silent films where you see people in strange poses and random bits of sheep’s eye. or like an audience of people who appreciate such films. hopefully the disconnect of my comment only serves to aptly portray the weirdness of their relationship. hehe. to the.
quoth my lover: “i can’t imagine those people having sex…well, i can imagine them “having sex,” but not fucking.”
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I’m fine with being married as long as I don’t have to talk about it, or acknowledge it.
There is a fine line between being an alpha and a psychologically stunted man. I often find that there is sometihg ‘off’ with men who publically go on about how they dominate their wives. Maybe dominate is not the right word. “Humiliate in public” is more like it. An attitude of “hey, look how I own my doormat” has an overcompensatory quality.
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@LILGRL
I’m sure practice makes perfect. He must have slept with over 500 women by now over a span of 10 or more years. Sex like everything can be mastered with at least 10,000 hours of practice. Too lazy to cite sources, but I’m pretty sure you are smart enough to find the study.
Sex and fucking is the same thing. Or is fucking vigorous sex?
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I feel you, PA. When he said sth like “Yeah I’m not very romantic, I have issues,” and the interviewer said, “Like, psychological issues?” I laughed aloud.
@The_King:
If you cannot figure out the difference, I cannot help you.
As for the practice-makes-perfect sex thing, what was that? Like, what was that little spiel? Hahahaha. Way to miss my entire point, to the.
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Beg to disagree. Business and booty don’t mix.
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UPDATE
For those who STILL dont see him as alpha, he casually admits being misogynist here:
3:45
http://www.vbs.tv/en-ca/watch/shot-by-kern/london
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Guess I’m behind the times. Would love it if someone can explain the use of “This” at the end of the post.
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Interesting. He’s definitely an interesting person. With his tone, I don’t believe that it has a sort of dominance or an “alphaness” but I do believe that with a lot of the things he says he could still stay believable. Mar said he was very matter of fact and not so lovey dovey touchy feely, so that there is definitely alpha.
I wonder if being alpha is now about a sense of making directions for women over it is to be playful.
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