A survey of older women and their husbands who were being watched while filling in the survey questions “””concluded””” that women were most attractive at age 31.
The poll of 2,000 men and women, commissioned by the shopping channel QVC to celebrate its Beauty Month, found that females in their early thirties are seen as more attractive than younger girls as they are more confident and stylish.
Shopping channel QVC — where unbiased science calls home!
[Beauty] was defined as being confident by 70 per cent, having good looks by 67 per cent and being stylish by 47 per cent.
Helen Thomas is undoubtedly a confident woman.

This confidence deluding device is one of thinnest reeds women hang onto as they age. It’s a classic case of gender projection. Women are attracted to confidence in men, so surely men must be attracted to confidence in women. Obvi! Unfortunately, it doesn’t work out that way in the real breathing world. Above a very minimal level of functioning self-esteem (i.e. not so depressed that she shuts herself indoors and whimpers in a corner in the fetal position), a woman’s attractiveness has little to do with her confidence, however amorphously defined. A confident beast is still a beast, albeit more insufferable than a beast who knows her place.
A lot of women also confuse sexual openness for confidence. Raging tankgrrl sluts are especially prone to believing that their sexual aggressiveness is the hallmark of feminist confidence. In reality, it is the hallmark of sluttiness, nothing more. It doesn’t take much confidence in one’s self-worth as a woman to spread one’s legs for horny men who will gladly dump a serviceable fuck in any halfway decent and readily available pussy.
Almost two thirds of women surveyed – 63 per cent – agreed that “with age, comes beauty”.

Too easy.
The same number said that as they get older, they care less about what others think of the way they look.
We tend to openly care more about things we have control over. When you’re ugly and getting uglier by the day, it assuages the ego to imagine that you are above such trivial matters as impressing the opposite sex with your looks. And yet, even ancient grandmas will smear lipstick and rouge on themselves before heading out the door for dinner. It’s sad. So the compulsion to care what people think of us never disappears completely; it just fades away as reality continually reconfirms the uselessness of caring very much for something that long ago escaped our scope of influence.
And 51 per cent said as they age they shed their insecurities and feel prettier.
Only 51% in full denial mode? I figured mirrors would be in more homes than that. Interestingly, this survey result contradicts the survey result directly above it.
“Shedding insecurities” is another female empowerment trope. It’s easy to “shed” insecurities when there’s no hope of benefiting from acknowledging insecurities and working to improve the underlying conditions creating them. The rationalization hamster was strong in these survey results. Which brings us to another maxim…
Maxim #85: As women’s bodies age and weaken, their rationalization hamsters grow bigger and stronger. Eventually, the hamster is powerful enough to take control of all higher order consciousness.

‘A survey of older women and their husbands who were being watched while filling in the survey questions “””concluded””” that women were most attractive at age 31.’
31 though isn’t bad, it’s a few years before the wall. I read that survey half-expecting some totally wrong answer like 43.
You nailed projection. The reason women think they get better looking as they age; they get more experience, knowledge, confidence and status, which are the exact things they find attractive in men…so men must therefore find it attractive in women!
Female beauty ascends rapidly from 14-17, peaks around 22-24, and starts to descend at 30 or so.
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First
Wake up White Man.
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Damn it. Nevermind.
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Omg’d I read this article on phone. When I scrolled to the first picture I threw it across the room.
I can see where your going with this post, but it can’t even possibly be true that age 31 is beautiful to people?
The peak of still sexually viable and confidence in that, before the drop off?
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Don’t women hit their sexual peak around 30? If these are married men and have been married for several years, they may report their wives are more attractive overall.
If you add the style, dress and possibly bedroom demeanor or desire for sexy time, and the fact that at 31 they have deteriorated less from 22 than they will to 40, AND the survey takers are married, it makes sense.
A reworked headline might be, women get uglier as they age, but there are some offsetting benefits up until the age of 31.
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“A survey of older women and their husbands who were being watched while filling in the survey questions “””concluded””” that women were most attractive at age 31.”
hahahahahahahhahahah, I mean come on, april 1 was so long ago.
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The lengths they go to to avoid the inevitable unwelcome truths is astounding.
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A lot of women also confuse sexual openness for confidence. Raging tankgrrl sluts are especially prone to believing that their sexual aggressiveness is the hallmark of feminist confidence. In reality, it is the hallmark of sluttiness, nothing more.
http://onestdv.blogspot.com/2010/07/crazy-street-preacher-blasphemes.html
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Also I find this is relative to culture and race of course. I am sure that we all know people who defy what Black Rebel has outlined. While this is definitely not the standard! I don’t care much about what the QVC says anyways.
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The study was obviously conducted by 31 year old females.
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what higher order consciousness?
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girls who are early bloomers can start declining as soon as 17, 18. late bloomers may take until 23 to peak. by early or late blooming i mean puberty of course. love the look on my 21 yr old exes face when i remind her that she has but a few more years of prime looks at most, hinting that she was hotter at 18 than 21. takes her ego, inflated from orbiter attn, down a notch
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How many hits do you usually get?
I’d guess at least a quarter of them are women. Divvy that approriately and I’d say eight-tenths of that are women over 25. How much rationalization does that leave us?
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Looks like QVC is getting out of the female cosmetics racket….no need for it after this groundbreaking study, right?
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I’ve met some 35 year old women that are so delusional about their looks- that they come off as psychotic.
Some of the worst offenders were high fives / low sixes in their early twenties- with age they fall to a very low 5 by mid thirties.
They all seem to have great careers and fancy if provocative wardrobes- they feel this somehow compensates.
Beneath the thin veneer of confidence, the psychosis is palpable. I don’t know if they are mad with rage or just plain mad as a hatter, but they are scary creatures.
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Black Rebel wrote:
“Female beauty ascends rapidly from 14-17, peaks around 22-24, and starts to descend at 30 or so.”
More like Female beauty ascends rapidly from 14-17, peaks around 18-21, plateaus around 22-24, begins to descend around 25 and rapid deterioration based on genes and lifestyle usually starts around the age of 34.
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lawyers and therapists especially fit the bill.
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Orthodox:
The female 30’s peak is a feminist hamster created fantasy.
Drive is highest with peak estrogen, which matches beauty and fertility.
If anything they spread more easily past 30 because they have to.
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If this isn’t decisive proof of the eternal solipsism of the female mind, then I’ll eat your hat.
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Something else that bugs me is women saying that “men are afraid of successful women”, because the answer is the same: men are primarily interested in BEAUTY, not in professional success. They project their wishes upon us because they are unable to understand our psyche.
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Can’t say 30. That’d be too obvious.
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I knew a girl who hit her attractiveness peak at 31.
Women in denial (i.e. all women) won’t remember the rest of this comment. While it is true that I have met one girl in my life who hit her peak that late, it is also true that the vast majority of girls hit their attractiveness peak somewhere closer to the age of 19. I’ve just provided hamster fuel to these older deluded creatures.
To a man, confidence in a woman contributes as much to attraction as the inside of a man’s knee does to a woman. Unless there’s a second head or ATM sticking out of it, it doesn’t contribute.
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In that “young” picture Sharon Stone is over 30.
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I think hot hot girls tend to look hottest in their later 20s, say 27. However I think the average girl probably looks cutest in her late teens. 18 or 18. But there’s a lot of variation when girls peak. So gawky girls do blossom in their 20s. Some early hotties start looking hard and gain weight towards the end of their 20s.
It’s never over 35 though. At best the early thirties can be a plateauing of her late 20s look.
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“Shedding insecurities” = being happy that you’re fat. i think this is more dangerous because girls can shed their insecurities at 21, get fat and stay fat in their prime.
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off topic, whatever happened to the lololzlozlzlzozzlzozlz guy? he was at least entertaining
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Perfect example of a delusional, late 30’s, divorcee who will “never settle”.
http://seejaimedate.blogspot.com/
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31? You must be kidding me. Most white women peak in their mid-late teens. Asian girls look prettier in their twenties, though. Not sure about others. Anyone who peaks as late as 31 was probably never very dazzling to begin with.
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“Perfect example of a delusional, late 30′s, divorcee who will “never settle”.
http://seejaimedate.blogspot.com/”
Poor girl obviously doesn’t realize that she is unattractive.
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heh wicked
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Sadness accrues.
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In their defense. i have met some 40 year olds that have learned their lessons. although, i have also met some 40 year olds that were sevens in their primes, they become so nutty- you may fear for you life if you spend the night.
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Excellent post R!
Sorry ladies, we are uglier the older we get…I work out all the more furiously as I see the naked older bodies of women at the gym lockroom and while swimming. swimsuits are cold truth tellers. It is why I am proana. thinness matters to me, but my face will take a beating anyways. tears…older is older…will I look like a ugly skinny minny version of a sarah jessica parker/madonna with veiny arms and no man? maybe. ya gotta be wiling to accept the negatives in life.
I would call it neurotic of women over 29/30 to think men care about their precious jobs and think they are “still as fresh and pretty” as younger women. The career thing is hypergamy-land. Ego and self confidence. If we women could lose our egos the happier we’d be at the embracing truth.
For example, I liked so and so. I was 28, he was 30. He went for the girls 18 to 22 ish. Its no surprise, its fact. It would suit us well to stop denying the truth of our expiration dates.
oh well, happy friday,
the lp999
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Aren’t you all missing the point? We are talking about the beauty of the whole person, not just the physical aspect. Of course women peak physically way before 31, but those of you who have been in relationships should recognize that confidence, wisdom, generosity, impulse control, etc., are all redeeming qualities in a woman. A 31-year-old probably has more experience, and more interesting things to talk about, than a much younger woman.
If you are 18, perhaps a 31-year-old doesn’t catch your eye. But for a man in his 40s or older, a 31-year-old may be considerably more attractive than a 20-year-old.
My old lady is more calm, interesting, and balanced now than when we met years ago. And when I look at the hundreds of women at my company, most of them in their 20s, I just don’t see many interesting ones. They provide eye candy, yes, but my real friendships are with women in their 30s.
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I dont give a shit about confidence in women unless she’s the freak out type. Gimme beauty, sensitivity and a hundred of other traits first
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Backdoor Man, i have no grievance against attractive women over 30- if they are both rational and nice they can make fine companions.
we are talking about the delusional (over) 30 year olds that have the mental maturity of 18 year olds- without the body and looks to back it up, they become even more depressing when they act the fool.
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First picture:
OH GOD MY EYES!!
For keeping those rationalizations, sanity must be thinning.
I shudder.
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Roissy,
Here is some good concept art, related to the subject of your post. It says what a 1,000 replies cannot convey.
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Black Rebel wrote:
“You nailed projection. The reason women think they get better looking as they age; they get more experience, knowledge, confidence and status, which are the exact things they find attractive in men…so men must therefore find it attractive in women!”
I think that explains it perfectly.
Helen Thomas really did have an unfortunate visage. I mean really…………she is literally uglier than a frog. If you had to kiss a bullfrog on a lilly pad, or Helen Thomas………a guy would have to think for a sec to determine which one would be more unpleasant. Ive shit prettier turds than that woman.
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I think the consensus of 31 is the merging of :
Men saying age 25 is the peak
Women over 35 saying 40 is the peak
So if you exclude older women out of the votes, the 31 will drop down into the mid 20s.
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Well, I quickly scanned the post (caveat I’m slightly tipsy) and I did think the gentleman doth protest too much.
I also didn’t read the post as “we are talking about the delusional (over) 30 year olds that have the mental maturity of 18 year olds” but just generally older women.
Coincidentally, I’m literally just back from drinks with a 40 something guy (natural alpha) who told me that younger women (21ish) aren’t what they are cracked up to be. It came up after a conversation about a 43 year old we know who says that he wants to get married but keeps delaying it because he’s impressed he can still pick up 21 year old women. It gave us a bit of a chuckle as all you need to do as a 41 year old male is be fairly good looking and have a little bit of money to pull 21 year olds for a fling, it’s no validation of who you are as a person.
Anyway, the natural alpha guy said frankly the 21 year olds were quite dull in bed compared to 30 something women who looked good (though not all do obviously) and were more confident. Let alone as a companion.
As for me, well I certainly looked much better at 21 than I do now, 12 years later. But I really wasn’t very sophisticated then, I couldn’t have ‘pulled’ this guy then (though I did know him then) but I could now.
Oh well. I came home early so I could make dinner with the hot guy my own age who has a harem of 20 something women but has seemingly moved in with me (which I wouldn’t mind so much but he only lives a mile away and his dog keeps chewing my stuff). So I won’t kill myself just yet.
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I think you found the cure Roissy to your raging hardon from the pill, looking at Helen Thomas picture.
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A Diaboli
your link doesn’t load.
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Doug1,
It works fine for me.. The linked picture is a CGI rendering of a fat woman looking in the mirror to ‘see’ a much thinner and attractive version of herself.
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“Above a very minimal level of functioning self-esteem (i.e. not so depressed that she shuts herself indoors and whimpers in a corner in the fetal position), a woman’s attractiveness has little to do with her confidence”
What a load of tosh.
[editor: sorry, that’s the way it is. learn to deal.]
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Women 31 or older = Helen Thomas.
You guys really need to get out more.
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I was waiting for you to write abou this, R. Well done as always.
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A girl peaks at 23. Everyone knows that.
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Jesus why does every girl that comments here have to tell her life story? No one cares.
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“[editor: sorry, that’s the way it is. learn to deal.]”
Sure, when I was 21 all those guys aged 30+ approaching me were offering me something I actually wanted.
If I’d wanted to be a dumpee of a ‘pump and dump’, I’d have done it with a (super) hot 21 year old guy.
[editor: nope, still not getting it. pumpee status has nothing to do with confidence or lack thereof.]
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@ X to the Z
Apologies for boring you. Well I’m off for the night, have a nice banter.
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“Well, I quickly scanned the post (caveat I’m slightly tipsy) and I did think the gentleman doth protest too much.
I also didn’t read the post as “we are talking about the delusional (over) 30 year olds that have the mental maturity of 18 year olds” but just generally older women.
Coincidentally, I’m literally just back from drinks with a 40 something guy (natural alpha) who told me that younger women (21ish) aren’t what they are cracked up to be. It came up after a conversation about a 43 year old we know who says that he wants to get married but keeps delaying it because he’s impressed he can still pick up 21 year old women. It gave us a bit of a chuckle as all you need to do as a 41 year old male is be fairly good looking and have a little bit of money to pull 21 year olds for a fling, it’s no validation of who you are as a person.
Anyway, the natural alpha guy said frankly the 21 year olds were quite dull in bed compared to 30 something women who looked good (though not all do obviously) and were more confident. Let alone as a companion.
As for me, well I certainly looked much better at 21 than I do now, 12 years later. But I really wasn’t very sophisticated then, I couldn’t have ‘pulled’ this guy then (though I did know him then) but I could now.
Oh well. I came home early so I could make dinner with the hot guy my own age who has a harem of 20 something women but has seemingly moved in with me (which I wouldn’t mind so much but he only lives a mile away and his dog keeps chewing my stuff). So I won’t kill myself just yet”
^ what a load of crap all men wnat the young ones some cnat get them anymore so they rationalize, th eones that can, prefer them for as long as they can
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Or 16. It depends on the girl.
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It actually also depends on the guy. Do you prefer fresh and innocent, or sophisticated and worldly.
I prefer both.
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The whole “confidence” thing really bugs the shit out of me. For one thing, it’s exactly as Roissy put it: projection.
For another thing, it’s insanely wrong. I don’t think I’ve ever met an actually confident woman. Most of them are dripping with insecurity; I’m pretty sure this is the nature of women in general -something to do with estrogen. Oh sure, some can be comfortable in their own skin, but that’s not confidence; that’s just the result of being alive for a long time.
Finally, I have occasionally been very charmed by overt lack of confidence. One girl I won’t soon forget: her hands trembled when I met her. It was one of the most charmingly feminine things a woman has ever done on a first date; like something from a Victorian novel. Since she wasn’t an Anglo-American harpy, she didn’t try to brass it out like she had too much coffee or something. More like, she blushed a little. I was really charmed, and would have married her on the spot just for that.
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@editor
“A confident beast is still a beast, albeit more insufferable than a beast who knows her place”
Yup. But this is a very general phenomenon.
Some people (both sexes) in effect try to
substitute confidence for substance. Not
only about looks, can be anything.
Mild cases are sometimes described as
“he/she overplayed his/her hand”.
When the confidence level exceeds the
substance by a lot, the person becomes
insufferable. This nonsense is boosted by
a large cultural movement, from Norman
Vincent Peale to Anthony Robbins, not to mention
countless “therapists” in various forms.
Most of these people do tremendous damage
not only to their readers/patients/whatever,
but also to society at large.
Another thing – this thread is replete with
“beauty only”. This is largely true for one-night
stands and really short term relationships.
For longer term, it becomes much less true.
Additionally, men who actually DO want to marry
are thezedayz rightly scared of divorce theft.
One of the defensive moves is to marry a woman
who makes money about the same as or more than
the man himself. I am not talking about fortune
hunters like Lt. Kerry, but prudent men who don’t
want to be pauperized by a divorce.
And, guess what: A woman’s career makes her
lots more attractive.
Thor
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I like “older” women (between the ages of 25-31) compared to the 21 year olds with the perfect bodies. My reasoning is similar to the reason why I don’t like virgins.
It isn’t confidence that is sexy in girls 25+, it is that in my experience they have become more comfortable in themselves to know many of the truths about sexuality that they were not willing to let themselves believe when they were younger. A 21 year old does not understand male sexuality at all, wants to “make love” like in a romantic comedy and wants really bad to be “good in bed.” However, a girl 25+ knows by that age that she wants to get f’d by a dominant man. She is comfortable enough with herself to let herself get off on her submissiveness, and will understand the sexiness of presenting to her lover. Sorry if that’s a bit graphic, but its true. In my experience, a 25+ girl is much more likely to enjoy a facial than a 21 year old as well. After college, girls seem to get a lot more comfortable being kinky.
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@Rivelino
It actually also depends on the guy. Do you prefer fresh and innocent, or sophisticated and worldly.
I prefer both.
Me too.
Bu confident women?
I’ve been accused of not liking confident women, by women who aren’t very attractive or older, but never by anyone else.
It’s not that I dislike confident women. I just don’t care.
I suspect this accusation is leveled at men when women feel threatened or somehow unattractive.
There’s a denial that men want physical attractiveness and youth. Both of these things are boner-inducing.
Confidence, … has never been one for me.
So Roissy has it right again.
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“Jesus why does every girl that comments here have to tell her life story? No one cares.”
That’s the way girls argue. The personal is required because the abstract is unknown.
“Not all woman are like that, I am the exception.”
followed by,
“We women don’t like so and so.”
It’s too funny.
Diaboli your pic doens’t load in firefox for me but worked in opera.
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@ Lily
That “alpha guy” is pulling your chain.
He knows you’re mid 30’s, he’s pretending your looks
don’t matter.
He gave you a slight neg just to make sure you know where
you stand. Real alpha males will always pump the young ones.
There are many guys who will stroke the older ladies that are
past their prime.
I seems you are deluded also. Whatever floats your boat dear.
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Men age like wine, women age like milk.
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I blame it all on Sex & The City.
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I won’t even bother to say it depends on the genes of the girl. If a girl has peaked at 22 or 24 she has lousy genes and/or poor lifestyle habits. Fresh-faced beauty should be able to be maintained until 29 or so when you start with good genes. A lot of it has to do with skin quality and muscle tone.
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Come on Chateau ya big meanie…let us oldsters have our rationalizations…it’s all some of us have. (I have some other stuff..but still)
PS. You’ll have some of your own rationalizations too once you hit the wall. I hope you’ll have some achievements to look back on that you’ll feel proud of…and a nice lady who loves you for yourself. I mean that sincerely.
[editor: i’m aware the wall is gender neutral, although it hits much harder much sooner for women. i’ll content myself when the time comes to a bevy of young hookers and single malt scotch. two rocks.]
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The Federal Reserve got tired of him talking shit about them so they had him assassinated.
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Sorry hon, this is where rationalizations go to die.. I think you want thefrisky.com..
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I know that for the most part the bloom is off the rose for me, but what am I supposed to do curl up and die.
[editor: no, miss laura. i expect you to settle!]
My great grandmother lived to be 100 years old, so I could potentially have many more years on this earth. I’m going to try and make the best of it.
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Maybe we are confounding physical attractiveness with personality. Of course younger woman have more physical beauty. But, by and large they are more boring than older women. Older women can be more attractive as the complete package. For example, knowing how to love takes practice. Age 31 might be the tipping point, where the decline in physical beauty cannot be compensated entirely by the improvement in personality.
But, you know, we will all be old/dead in just a few decades. Try reading the Obits a while, and then think.
Some of these discussions seem silly.
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One thing about getting older and losing the teenage freshness is that it’s easier to engage with people from all walks of life. My now slightly faded fabulous looks don’t disarm people the way they used to, and at the same time, I handle myself with more grace, leading to more rewarding interactions in life.
I like that.
[editor: so what you’re saying is, you’re cool with being LJBFed. wonder twin power… ACTIVATE… form of… a hamster!]
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Girls:
Please stop caring about your precise position on the beauty scale. As you know from personal experience, whoever you are is always some man’s cup of tea. Keep yourself as healthy as you can, genuinely care for those around you, spread joy and happiness and be sexy for your man. Do all this and life will be good.
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I’m impressed by this post – it actually managed to limit the number of insane ramblings about life stories by completely delusional women to just 3 or so.
That’s a record for a post here.
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anise,
Good comment. I agree.
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Please stop caring about your precise position on the beauty scale. As you know from personal experience, whoever you are is always some man’s cup of tea. Keep yourself as healthy as you can, genuinely care for those around you, spread joy and happiness and be sexy for your man. Do all this and life will be good.
—
This.
[editor: not this. as you should well know by now reading this blog of illuminating truth, aging brings with it a diminution of women’s sexual market value, and consequently a restriction in their mate options. fewer high value men will seek out a woman as a love partner as she ages into unattractiveness. so while you may always be “some man’s cup of tea” the number of men who will want to drink your tea will dwindle significantly past 30 and tumble precipitously past age 40, and the quality of those tea-drinkers will slide inexorably down the mate value scale until you will have nothing left but omegas willing to sip you, let alone invest in your tea leaf factory.]
I think one thing that gets lost in the shuffle is that for women at the end of the day to some extent where you are is well, where you are. There is no point worrying or stressing about it. Although it is often portrayed this way here the point of love isn’t some status game, it’s form an actual connection with someone.
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It’s interesting how approachable women become once they sail past their expiration date. Few attractive men notice them, workout body or not. Sorry gals, a good body won’t hide a past-prime face. All but the most sexually-frustrated men can’t and won’t see past your rapidly-aging faces to see your personalities and physical fitness.
We’re not trying to be mean, that’s just the way the average man is wired. And all the shaming language in the world won’t change us to see you as attractive when you in fact are not attractive to us. Add to your aging other factors such as other men’s children and we just don’t notice you or consider you relationship material, regardless of how hard you try to make yourself as attractive as possible.
I genuinely feel badly for women who are single in middle age for reasons such as an unfaithful partner. Many did not ask for that. Hopefully women facing that situation will make the best of their future and find someone to share life with.
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Dr Dave
I’d reserve some of the feeling badly if she nagged him, got fat, refused his advances and then instantly left him or lorded cheating status over him instead of resolving the situation. I’d also reserve it if she didn’t specifically look for someone with principles who she could reasonably expect faithfulness from, when selecting her partner.
However, yes, rarely men can leave their relatively blameless women, even in spirit if not in body. You can also get relatively young widows. It is pretty tragic.
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This is to all the ladies in the house.
You cannot fool the penis. It either gets hard when you are around or it does not. And the older you are, the less likely that it will get hard when you’re around.
That’s just the way we are wired, so take your complaints down the road.
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Lily,
Detox my Buttox.
-GB
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Bhetti,
I didn’t bring that aspect out but I agree with you. If I’d married a woman like my mother I’d have thrown her through a glass sliding window. She’s lucky my stepdad is beta, otherwise she’d be alone now.
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Miss Universe/Miss USA contestants are usually 22-23, and rarely over 25.
What is the age of the OLDEST girl to win Miss America/Miss USA, in the last 30 years?
Supermodels make money from age 18-27, after which they dwindle off. Even Cindy Crawford and Claudia Schiffer stopped appearing in top bookings after age 33.
’nuff said.
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“Fresh-faced beauty should be able to be maintained until 29 or so when you start with good genes.”
No TRUE fresh-faced beauty fades by 29…
No true scotsman rears its head once again…
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One positive thing about being a woman over 30 is that it is finally possible to have an honest conversation with a man about sex (presumably because they no longer care enough to lie). Obviously all knowledge is bought at a cost but it’s great to have one’s curiosity (even if nothing else) satisfied.
PS: you might want to switch the left-hand picture of Sharon Stone for another one, I think she was into her thirties when that picture was taken.
[editor: i put that one up there because stone is an example of a woman with exceptional genes who nonetheless succumbed like all women do to the splat against the wall. she did look pretty good up until her early 30s, but now she is a husk of her former hottie self. so tragic.]
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Men:
Women in their 30’s can be attractive. I’ve been with attractive 40 year-olds (though fewer).
The prizes may be 23, but older women can be eminently fuckable.
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Thor,
A woman’s career makes her attractive insomuch as she’s intelligent and stable enough to maintain it. That’s it, and it’s only important in women one would consider marrying. Dropping said career aspersions must absolutely drop once procreation starts, extra income and sweet young au pairs be damned.
For flings, high-power careers are net negative, if only for the personalities they pre-select for.
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Thursday,
Women lose their girlish charm after age 30 or so partly because men fail to thrill us the way they used to. It works both ways.
[editor: that’s because as an older, less desirable woman, the kind of men you’re able to get are less thrilling.]
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Vasafaxa
whoever you are is always some man’s cup of tea.
The tea analogy actually proves the contrary point too well. Tea grows cold very quickly. You can pour hot water in (fillers? botox?) , but it’s not the same. Most people prefer hot tea (some people drink the tea when it’s hotter than they realise, and get burnt, but that’s already been discussed on another thread).
If you want to console us elderly women, pick a drink that stays drinkable longer.
PS: Rather than heating up the tea, it’s probably better for it to accept it’s gone cold & make the most of it. Not everyone is into iced tea, but some like it.
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stone is an example of a woman with exceptional genes who nonetheless succumbed like all women do to the splat against the wall. she did look pretty good up until her early 30s, but now she is a husk of her former hottie self. so tragic.
It is indeed a tragedy of epic proportions but although leaves fade there is always a new crop along soon, or, put another way, so long as there is hot water, a kettle and a teabag a fresh cup of tea is always available. One has to view these things philosophically.
[editor: if i were the supernatural type, i’d sooner wish for reincarnation than an eternal afterlife in heaven. the latter sounds so boring.]
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i guess Helen Thomas was a little TOO confident, if you catch my drift
(i couldn’t resist)
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i guess Helen Thomas was a little TOO confident, if you catch my drift
Brilliant! Let’s use ‘confident’ as code for ‘agedly ugly’ from now on.
Example : Joy Behar is getting pretty confident at this point.
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Laura,
This issue does go both ways to some degree.
But there has to be some quantifiable inverse relationship between the width of a woman’s hips and the motivation of the eligible men around her to pursue her.
Free Willy curves and Jabba The Hutt waistlines just don’t do it visually-speaking for most of us guys. But we certainly can be friends with women like that if they’re nice and friendly.
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ed: yes, I loooove LJBFing (heh) because I love getting to know people from all walks of life without that messy sexual predation. And that’s fun! Course, I get piped regularly by the man I love so, you know, win-win-win
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you did not catch my drift
please proceed to insane ramblings about your life stories now
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[editor: if i were the supernatural type, i’d sooner wish for reincarnation than an eternal afterlife in heaven. the latter sounds so boring.]
Au contraire. Somewhere in heaven there’s a DC bar filled with 18 year old Russian babes just waiting for the right person to come along & liven things up.
[editor: i have a feeling god is not that cool.]
But you won’t get to enjoy it for long. Please don’t take offence at this, but when I’m appointed Reincarnation Angel I’m going to reincarnate you as a woman. With a manjaw.
[it beats coming back as an omega untouchable in calcutta.]
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I’m so glad I don’t look the way I did when I was in my teens and early 20’s. It was easier to stay thin then, but I think that has more to do with having an active lifestyle than what one acquires with a 40-hour work week. I also found the frequency and quality of approaches I get have increased with age.
Youth is attractive because it represents optimal health. It’s all the little things that begin to change that take away the appearance of youth. But, if one works hard to maintain that health, it’s quite possible to retain a glow of vitality for years.
I see tons of teens and 20-somethings with premature wrinkles, harsh lines, and gray, non-glowing skin all the time. It’s not all about biological age, but how one takes care of herself and preserves her health — mentally, emotionally, and physically.
I realize there are men who chase teens and 20-somethings. I realize this because all women were once that age and experienced the chasing first-hand. However, I didn’t want that type of man when I was 20, and certainly don’t want that type of man now. So it all really works out for the best in the end.
I further realize that men like younger women and women like older men — I do too. But, there’s a certain mentality that goes along with a man who believes women can’t be attractive past the age of 25, and it’s not appealing to most women of quality.
[editor: define “quality”. and most men would bang 25 year olds if they could. that they can’t is not proof of their maturity or virtue.]
Also, if you look at most high-status men, they don’t chase teens and early 20-somethings, even if the women are younger.
[most high status men chase women significantly younger than themselves, and often quite a lot more beautiful than the average for the women’s age range. so they are skimming off the top 1% of hottie 30+ year olds when they do date older, which has a significant impact on the dating market, since there are far fewer hottie 30+ year olds than there are hottie teens and 20s girls.]
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@Lily
“Above a very minimal level of functioning self-esteem (i.e. not so depressed that she shuts herself indoors and whimpers in a corner in the fetal position), a woman’s attractiveness has little to do with her confidence”
What a load of tosh.
So men are attracted to your confidence?
I guarantee you the men are attracted to something else.
It’s not the confidence. Though they’ll say this.
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Sharon Stone is now in her mid-50’s, not 31. And I’m not quite sure she is the best example of a woman who has truly taken care of her health. Staying thin at whatever cost and getting plastic surgery does not equal healthy vitality.
And the picture on the right of Sharon Stone is simply a bad picture. I could find a picture just as bad/ugly, if not worse, of women half her age.
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editor: i have a feeling god is not that cool.
Surely a good Catholic boy like you knows that you only have to ask, and ye shall receive.
[editor: what if i ask to usurp him?]
Obviously you’d have to recant first, like St Augustine. Think of the PR for heaven if the likes of you went over to the Good Side.
[pascal’s wager is so beta.]
You’d never stay an omega in Calcutta, I am not stupid enough to be fooled by that suggestion.
[yeah but ya gotta play the odds. how many of those wretched refuse escape their lament configuration?]
The manjaw now, that would be harder to get rid of. I think I’ll give you cankles as well. And a really long labia.
[as long as i’m not obese, it’s still a better deal than a male dreg.]
I’m so enjoying the thought of what I will do to you all when I get my reincarnation powers. A girl has to have something to keep her occupied in her declining years.
[now it’s my turn….
ah, maybe next time.]
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I find lots of women attractive. Occasional 40 year-olds, though rarely; 30-35 year-olds, sure; 20-27 year olds, all the time.
This is physical attraction.
Other elements include charm, femininity, personality, intelligence, cleverness (not the same thing), humor and wit, sensitivity.
But Mega (n) Fox makes men go crazy.
Just how it is.
She can be a total cunt, and men will still go nuts for her.
Not all of us – I might – but for a mate, I’d be more holistic in my approach.
Others, … most of the men I know go for physical beauty first.
Age may bring charm, intelligence, cleverness, humor, wit and knowledge – all of which are attractive in people generally – but not increased physical beauty.
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You should at the very least provide the vodka and the bullets, not just the gun.
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scratch that. Make it heroin so I can go out on the highest high there is (besides being in love).
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lozzlozzllzzozl i love you roissy
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a bernankified chick @ the age of 30 is like a two month old head of lettuse in the fridge lzozlzolzlzozlzlz
sure you respect it, but not because you are attratced to it, but it scares the bejsus out of you to move it and smell the oozing liqyiiuiduisss ozozlzlzozlzl
kinda amazong the lies they teach women 2 tell themselves lzozlzozzlzlzozlzoz
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“You nailed projection. The reason women think they get better looking as they age; they get more experience, knowledge, confidence and status, which are the exact things they find attractive in men…so men must therefore find it attractive in women!”
Mmm hmm…young women find a packed social schedule and a mild/benign non-cooperative attitude attractive (just like game teaches), so stupid books like The Rules tell women if THEY act like that they’ll be able to catch any man they want!
Pffff.
Women who are naturally doormats, or who play doormat because they are desperate for male attention, are especially subject to overcorrection and coming off as angry, disagreeable bitches who never have time for the important people in their lives. Not to mention the fact that phoniness and acting out of your personality is easily detected and is a turnoff.
I think it’s an underappreciated fact that as one gets successful at game, it becomes a part of him, or becomes him, so it has a built-in mechanism to keep him from looking like a faker.
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””””’Another thing – this thread is replete with
“beauty only”. This is largely true for one-night
stands and really short term relationships.
For longer term, it becomes much less true.
Additionally, men who actually DO want to marry
are thezedayz rightly scared of divorce theft.
One of the defensive moves is to marry a woman
who makes money about the same as or more than
the man himself. I am not talking about fortune
hunters like Lt. Kerry, but prudent men who don’t
want to be pauperized by a divorce.
And, guess what: A woman’s career makes her
lots more attractive.
Thor
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I wouldn’t say career would be enough for me. You can marry them and they can just quit the career. Now someone I could work with would be a woman with 300k in assetts. A good percentage she saved herself. That does impress me. Or like a woman who owns her house free and clear. That also impresses me.
Got to admit my sister shocked and awed millionaire dudes in her 20’s because she did have a succesfull business as well. So yea they probably saw her as a good bet for marriage and not fucking them over. Only problem was she didn’t want them lol She only wanted the dude who was the megamillionaire not just rich but also that she was hot for. Course yea that dude could get almost any woman on planet because he had game and looks as well so he never married.
Its a sick world he he he
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[editor: what if i ask to usurp him?]
I’m glad you’re back in good form. Believe it or not, I worry about you when you’re cranky – in a grandmotherly sort of way.
[editor: please woman, don’t mistake caustic for cranky. i relish dropping the hammer of righteous rage on the noggins of the dull and disingenuous. it’s fun for the whole family!]
I’m going to rest my aged head now (we withered leaves need our sleep) before my increasing senility results in any further lowering of the standard of the comment thread on my part.
[i wonder what you look like naked.]
You are so good to take the trouble to cheer up this old crone; who knows, with acts of kindness like this, you may make heaven yet.
[kindness is the tribute cockas pay to coochas.]
Bless.
[fuckies.]
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the perfect women:
hot hot hot softgina young pretty in shape cute wants to please
curious
respecting
repstive
trustworthy
loyal
helpful friendly
courtesou
kind obedient cheerful
thrifty
brave
clean
reverent
lozlzoozlozlzlzozlzzozlzlzo
your tipicle berankifed 31 y o chick is the exact OPPOSITE of all tehse things
i have nothing against 31 year olds
but the only way she’d be in my house is if
she had sucked my cock and my cock only since she was 21 lzozlzozlzozozlzlz
what chix need to realize
is that their younghot tight years are their greatest investment zozlzozlzl
waste that cash on aholde and ocuhebags and spnd it on secrtive tapings of asscokcing sessions promoted by the neocons and they’ll be selling sub prime loans the rest of their lives in short skirts lzozlzozlzlzlzl 4 bernanke lozlzozlz
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“[editor: define “quality”. and most men would bang 25 year olds if they could. that they can’t is not proof of their maturity or virtue.]”
I define a quality woman as someone who has the power to do a lot things but doesn’t. This further translates into a certain demeanor and treatment of other people. She is similarly drawn to men who are the same.
“[most high status men chase women significantly younger than themselves, and often quite a lot more beautiful than the average for the women’s age range. so they are skimming off the top 1% of hottie 30+ year olds when they do date older, which has a significant impact on the dating market, since there are far fewer hottie 30+ year olds than there are hottie teens and 20s girls.]”
I think it’s a matter of opinion that the women we see high status men with are in the top 1% of beauty in her age group. Sure, they’re beautiful, but not always the most beautiful. And we all see men everyday who could date whomever they please, but it’s usually a certain type of Peter Pan-Man that exclusively will only date teen and early 20’s girls.
Women don’t walk around with a stamp on their forehead declaring their age. Men approach women they find attractive. I completely understand that men want to date beautiful women, but in our current time of accruing sex partners like crazy, drinking binges, and year-round tanning that are all so popular with young girls, they’re not always the picture of femininity and freshness. A man who dates solely based on age and not true beauty is trying to prove a point — perhaps to his own insecurities.
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Women don’t walk around with a stamp on their forehead declaring their age
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yes they do
its called their visible physical appearance
men can spot the most miniscule signs of aging almost subliminally
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“She can be a total cunt, and men will still go nuts for her.
Not all of us – I might – but for a mate, I’d be more holistic in my approach.”
I think women fail to understand, and are not taught, that while they have two ladders (do and don’t), men have three – mate potential, pump-and-dump, and don’t touch.
All male attention is not created equal. Women who want to be on the first ladder must avoid the second.
On a different subject, since the McGriddle article (she’s 6’3″) I’ve been musing on a theory that tall women have a socially-developed selectivity and quick-rejection system exceeding that of statistically normal women, which can carry through into an overall bitchiness factor. Thus they are more likely to pull off sneers like McGriddle’s teenybopper dismissal of guys with game.
It comes from two factors. The minor one is that tall women are statistically abnormal and feel freakish, so they have a standing social anxiety. The major factor is that lots of men shorter than them desire them, and by hypergamy, they are not interested in shorter men, so they have to instantly disqualify and communicate rejection to most men they meet.
We’ve already established that nerd, punk and goth girls can have this problem, since they hang around in male-heavy cliques and spend their formational years being ultra-selective amidst frequent offers.
Why don’t we just call this the “hot girl mechanism,” for any girl whose pool of acceptable mates is abnormally much smaller than their pool of suitors. The problem for goth and tall girls is that being goth or tall only buys you value in certain circles, whereas being hot buys you value everywhere in life – employment, platonic/generic social circles, etc.
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”””””’on July 23, 2010 at 4:23 pm Lupo Leboucher
The whole “confidence” thing really bugs the shit out of me. For one thing, it’s exactly as Roissy put it: projection.
For another thing, it’s insanely wrong. I don’t think I’ve ever met an actually confident woman. Most of them are dripping with insecurity; I’m pretty sure this is the nature of women in general -something to do with estrogen. Oh sure, some can be comfortable in their own skin, but that’s not confidence; that’s just the result of being alive for a long time.
Finally, I have occasionally been very charmed by overt lack of confidence. One girl I won’t soon forget: her hands trembled when I met her. It was one of the most charmingly feminine things a woman has ever done on a first date; like something from a Victorian novel. Since she wasn’t an Anglo-American harpy, she didn’t try to brass it out like she had too much coffee or something. More like, she blushed a little. I was really charmed, and would have married her on the spot just for that.
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Yea and around the megadude sister was like this. He totally broke her down to base female no matter how much confidence she had in the world he was the only thing she wanted.
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“dana
Women don’t walk around with a stamp on their forehead declaring their age
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yes they do
its called their visible physical appearance
men can spot the most miniscule signs of aging almost subliminally”
They are pretty off their mark with me, then. Maybe I’m the special snowflake! Yay!
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What a bunch of bullshit. 18-22 is the hottest age group for ALL GIRLS!!!!! The college years are the years where a girl is going to be at her absolute pinnacle of physical attractiveness. Anyone who tries to say otherwise is an idiot.
No matter how old I get, I will never even consider getting involved with a girl older than this. Why the fuck should I? You only live once. Why would you waste one second of your life with a worthless old hag? Use some fucking common sense.
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Mary-Louise Parker, Shakira, Nigella Lawson, Marla Maples…just some examples I’m throwing out there that women don’t, contrary to your collective opinions, become hideous, untouchable hags after 30.
[editor: you’re an idiot troll. i never said there weren’t exceptions to the rule, nor did i say that women become hideous hags after 30. try reading for comprehension. what i wrote is that a study purporting to claim that women are at their *attractiveness peak* at age 31 is full of shit. as are you.]
And frankly, what is the point of this post? It positively reeks of schoolyard bully taunting a quadriplegic for lack of movement; I suppose your next missive will be a diatribe raging against the impudence of 40+ women’s very existence (though I’m sure your mothers would have a word or two to say about that, including Roissy’s). Simply put, if you only want young girls, why waste time raging about those who aren’t?
[you must be new here.]
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First picture: by the time any of the males here hit that age you’ll pretty much be indistinguishable from Helen Thomas. Sorry. This has been a PSA. You can go back to your circle jerk now.
[editor: men age better than women on average. even tubalard jack nicholson looks better at his age than helen thomas. to add insult to injury, a man as ugly as helen thomas has better prospects in the dating scene than helen does.]
And unless you have some extreme redeeming qualitie(s) when you’re 40+, you’re not sleeping with much younger attractive women. Notice I didn’t add “nice,” “intelligent,” “sweet” or “non-slutty.”
[i know plenty of 40+ men who are sleeping with much younger attractive women. it’s not a rare occurrence at all.]
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“[editor: you must be new here.]”
Quite the opposite, actually; I’ve had this query for as long as you’ve been spouting this shit, and have only now worked up the interest to put it in the open.
[editor: i don’t follow all the comments. you must’ve slipped by the radar.]
With that said, care to respond?
[this blog is a thunderdome of soul shriveling truths delivered in the most sadistic manner possible. it is the gom jabbar of blogdom. you stick your hand in the box, and i observe how well you respond to the crisis. you want fluffy happy talk amongst genteel sophisticates, just mosey on over to any MSM approved outlet. if you want the roman coliseum, you’ve come to the right place.]
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well done. this post is a good example of the value this blog offers even for the non aspiring-pua.
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Met a lot of mid-20’s yuppie-type girls lately who are already deep into decline. Their abdomens show the ravages of too many chick drinks, too much bar food and not enough/any exercise. Their skin has been seared by too much sun at the beach, their eyes show the half-hollow stare of burnout from too many up-all-night parties and too much oxytocin euphoria and withdrawal due to nookie with players where neither party wants to stick around.
The good news for them is that the hamster growth is precocious and in some cases is already running at maximum capacity.
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[i wonder what you look like naked.]
Unutterably awful, worse even than the Medusa, you would never ever recover from the sight. Stick to making 18 year olds very happy, you are far too young for me anyway. I still live in hope that I might meet a 70 year old prepared to overlook my crabbed ‘n cobwebbed form, perhaps this is optimistic though. Have a lovely evening.
[editor: a hyperbolic evasion. very good. now then, would you say your body is shaped more like monica bellucci or kristen stewart? and as you have claimed you are of the irish extraction (wholly white, btw), do you sport the regrettable irish lass chin or have you been spared that noble lineage of juttingness?
flirtiness in your reply is a factor, so muse wisely.]
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too late for romance, correct assessment…. +1 for wisdom.
DrDave’s first post also right on point.
Look… the ladies should not be upset.
This is life even though they lied to you.
Sometimes one has to find out the hard way.
Some might realize before it’s too late.
Think about ladies… for those 10 or so years of fun(18-30y/o) if
you miss the gravy train and ring the baby-bell too late…
for the next 40 years you will struggle. This is the new life
for the upcoming spinsters.
Stats don’t lie ladies 🙂
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This post is just a practice post for Roissy’s ghostwriter. Lacks real bite and relevance…. I mean, QVC? rly?
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songwriters, please find a way to fit ‘omegas willing to sip you’ into verse
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Wow R,
This post really ticked off the white knight manginas and the past-my-expiration-date women who’d rather rage against you and those inconvenient truths you write on than look in the mirror, at least while sober.
Good work!
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“We should also talk about decline in personality. Girls also tend to lose a lot of their girlish charm once past 30. They get, uh, matronly.
[editor: so true. i have so much more fun on dates with mid 20s girls than i do with older women. and it’s reciprocal; i’m a mischievous boy.]”
Laughing-out-loud required reading for the change from young to early middle age/the wall:
http://nomarriage.com/perfectguy.html
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“Men age like wine, women age like milk.”
Men age like wine, women whine with age.
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Dr. Dave they *DID ASK FOR THAT*. By choosing the most exciting, dominant bad-boy so they could “tame” him — figuring they had a magic, special sex appeal better than other women. They could have had faithfulness, but they chose excitement. If anything, its utterly predictable when the exciting dominant guy who every woman wanted dumps them for a younger model.
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roissy,
Suppose a year group (all same age) of 100 women were polled yearly between ages 20 and 40 with the following questions:
a) “how many women in this poll are you more attractive than?” (consider it 2 studies, blind test and with-eyes-on test) and
b) “are you more or less attractive than last year?”
Do you think that we would see
a) the mean “me > them” rise as women’s “confidence” rises
b) the answer “more” become “less” at 31?
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@Thursday
“Yet the wives have gotten duller.”
They’re probably depressed about getting older.
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Father Merrin,
I’m throwing out there that women don’t, contrary to your collective opinions, become hideous, untouchable hags after 30.
What ridiculously low reading comprehension. ‘Father’ Merrin must be a woman……
Women achieve ‘peak-plateau’ beauty from 18-27
There is a gentle decline from 27 to 34…
Followed by a steep decline after 34.
Hot women over 35 do exist, but they are rare, and are losing looks by the day. Hardly any woman over 35 is ever more than a 7 in looks, and if she is, it is because she was a 10 in her twenties.
Why is this so hard to understand? Because you are a woman, that is why.
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does anyone have an explanation for why generations of women refrained from sharing with at least my generation onward what will happen to them as they age?
i do not recall hearing about the wall phenomenon once–only that “40 is the new 30” and bs like that
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dana,
does anyone have an explanation for why generations of women refrained from sharing with at least my generation onward what will happen to them as they age?
In cultures where families were strong, and mothers/grandmothers had big roles, this was not concealed at all. It was openly drilled into a young girl’s head. For a girl to be unmarried after age 28 was a big risk, and her parents knew it.
America was such a culture just 50 years ago.
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I’ll content myself when the time comes to a bevy of young hookers and single malt scotch. two rocks.
Here here.
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what is novel is women over a certain age either being ON the sexual market at wall time or always living under the threat of it
i venture to say the coming die-alone-with-cats apocalypse of my generation will put the fear of god into future generations if the singularity doesn’t so fundamentally alter aging birth life and death that it becomes moot
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No truly good girl.
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Kate-
“A man who dates solely based on age and not true beauty is trying to prove a point — perhaps to his own insecurities.”
Oh Kate, how you do try. Don’t you see? Many are spent. Done. At the point of no return. They refuse to see that just as men want the freshness and sexiness of a someone who knows how to have fun and stay in a young mind-set, so do women. The bitter stay alone because they don’t let anyone near who they used to be before they turned bitter. Girls can also age themselves by becoming bitter and men ruin their attractiveness by being crotchety. And the latest phase? Bitterness before hitting even 28 for many men. How is that possible I ask myself? What path was taken? What choices were made? If staying alone and not serial dating is the only means to protect oneself from aging their spirit, than the decision should be an easy one. Bitterness stems from dating too many mediocre and below average people, or too much rejection.
Badger-
“Met a lot of mid-20′s yuppie-type girls lately who are already deep into decline. Their abdomens show the ravages of too many chick drinks, too much bar food and not enough/any exercise…”
–too true. Youth may have youth but less than 10% of them are raised right these days, there is no deeper value or appreciation of culture’s richness. You boys know it’s the truth. The reason I know this is because I too am out talking with them in bars, interacting with them at cafes, music venues, etc. and they are flippin clueless.
“[this blog is a thunderdome of soul shriveling truths delivered in the most sadistic manner possible. ”
–and what a waste of talent and intelligence. Aim high.
I am out in the real world, and it is a bold faced lie to say that American men are aging well or better than their female counterparts on a whole. For every fatty, frumpy woman there is her equivalent represented in society; see: pale, saggy, balding, hair coming out of the ears and covering the back, lack of any style whatsoever, sweaty, bad-breathed, typical, gay bag carrying, pleated chinos wearing, fake leather belt cinching below the gut, badly-patterned oxford owning, boring as all hell cubical job working, square, key-board jockeying, uninspiring men. There are a ton. I just observe this in society, this is nothing new, I’m not hating, merely illustrating. To be elite, one must make themselves elite. And to do so rests on character, hunger for life and god-given looks or talent and that ever alluring je ne sais quoi quality.
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does anyone have an explanation for why generations of women refrained from sharing with at least my generation onward what will happen to them as they age?
Dana, we’re roughly the same age. Both boys and girls of our generation had been lied to. The adults were AWOL when we needed them the most.
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”””””’on July 23, 2010 at 9:06 pm dana
does anyone have an explanation for why generations of women refrained from sharing with at least my generation onward what will happen to them as they age?
i do not recall hearing about the wall phenomenon once–only that “40 is the new 30″ and bs like that
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Well if the woman doesn’t live near home to see it every day then how could it be drilled in.
When the family lives in a compound with each other much easier to see the diferent effects on your large family of brothers and sisters.
Plus the woman know as long as they have children aging isn’t so bad for a woman but for a woman with no kids it is probably hell on earth.
But yea my wifes mom has plenty of meaning. She cooks for the family still and has decent money because her kids takes care of her. But she also has other things like being respected by her children. She is basically a workaholic but not at a job but for her family and extended family. She is a cool lady. I respect her. She impresses the heck out of me.
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This is why if one has any insecurities it’s best to never admit to them in any way shape or form, build an iron-clad emotional fortress so that others cannot ferret them out, and save some of the denial for the times when someone asks about them – can’t use it all for inside your head.
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Roissy, anyone else:
I’ve caught the eye of an exotic 24 year old Russian. In my neck of the woods, she is an extreme rarity. She’s an 8. I’m an 8.
She’s signalled for me to open. I need cliff notes on how to game her from men who have experience with russians/Eastern European women.
As this will be my first experience, I expect to trip up, but I would like some advice to shorten the learning curve.
I typically open hotties with a plausible neg, watch their skin flash flush, pupils dilate, heads tilt, coy smile, *tingle*.
I assume it would be the same here, but the way you guys talk about russians, it makes me think I’m walking into a buzzsaw.
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Correct numerals.
Incorrect order.
That should be 13 years of age. (This opinion is only correct in Spain, Japan and certain other jurisdictions.)
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“No TRUE fresh-faced beauty fades by 29…”
–well yes, but it takes some effort after 29 is my point. Bone structure, genes carry her while diet, health, lifestyle all start to become more important. She has to click over to manual driving from cruise control mode.
I LOVE how men act as the experts on how to maintain beauty as a woman. Yeah, and I’m gonna start telling you lads how much to bench press.
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This discussion seems to have a tacit restriction to considering white women only.
Black women are known for showing less aging in the face (or their skin overall — such as the hands, a tell-tale spot which make up and cosmetic surgery won’t disguise).
A black woman I dated laughingly says “Good black don’t crack.” Supposedly the skin is thicker, less prone to wrinkling.
I’ve seen the truth of this trend in black women past 30.
This thread mentions some super models, but only white ones. Beverly Johnson and Iman are just two examples of black super models who continued looking smoking hot past age 40.
Some signs of aging on the skin of white women (and men) — mainly the face — is actually sun damage, so it could be (or could have been) prevented.
I once dated very sexy white woman who had grown up in Malibu — did lots of suntanning over the years.
The skin around her shins/ankles had an odd feeling of being crinkly, like tissue paper maybe, but what the hell, she looked great and she was great in bed.
[FWIW, I’m about as white as Steve McQueen]
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There is never any excuse to be had for becoming dull. If he/she *becomes* dull, I suspect they always were.
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anouk
they know how to maintain beauty in MEN’S eyes, not in women’s
women are prone to saying things like Sophia Loren is STILL hot!!!
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Confidence may not be what attracts men, but it’s what keeps her brushing her teeth, working out, putting on makeup if needed, and not dressing like a sausage.
So you may not be attracted to the confidence, but you’re damned sure attracted to the results.
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”””’msexceptiontotherule
This is why if one has any insecurities it’s best to never admit to them in any way shape or form, build an iron-clad emotional fortress so that others cannot ferret them out, and save some of the denial for the times when someone asks about them – can’t use it all for inside your head.
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Yea but sometimes it may not matter how much a person knows about you and if they love you madly and you love them madly all the same all good he he he
If both don’t love wasn’t meant to be.
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@ lazy guy
The discussion focuses on white girls because white girls have the most appeal to the greatest amount of men. The masculinized faces, dark skin, and the propensity toward obesity of black females work heavily in their disfavor. “Black” females regarded by the populace as hot tend to have significant white admixture.
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Backdoor Man – I have heard this from men as well…some of them may have had an ulterior motive for saying it to me though…glad to hear it from a disinterested party.
PS. Course, I have impenetratable anti-slut defenses, made stronger (if possible) by reading this site. Thanks Roissy!
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i get the point … and not to be a huge douche, but sharon stone is 32 or 34 in the hot pic … hit wall hard.
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This story reminds of a parasite that lives inside rats that cause the rat to become retarded/faux confident so it gets eaten by a cat so the parasite can breed. Women must get biologically deluded with age presumably to get pregnant before it’s too little too late.
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*************PS. Course, I have impenetratable anti-slut defenses, made stronger (if possible) by reading this site. Thanks Roissy!***********
yes of course… you don’t want true emotions giving you away.
You need to stay poised in front of the next dummy 🙂
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Anouk,
I know, it’s really sad to see either men or women who’ve become bitter. It’s not hard to become bitter even at a very young age — especially with so many parents divorcing, and so many children watching love mutate into hate. It’s no wonder so many are skeptical.
An aside: I don’t drink (often), but think this blog could be a lot more fun if there was a 2 drink minimum to read here.
“Thursday
If he/she *becomes* dull, I suspect they always were.
The young always have charm.”
Some people are just more serious in general, and not necessarily bitter. I think this is especially true of people who were raised in families where maturity was really encouraged. I was kind of always serious, even as a kid.
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Thursday-
You are a highly intelligent and articulate man via the internet, as I’m sure you are in real life, but…
“The young always have charm.”
…may be the stupidest fucking blanket statement you have ever written. You and I both know that much of today’s youth lacks any real charm or graceful delivery of it. I do not say this coming from a jaded place, it is a fact concluded by observation. Living in a city that should represent America’s youth well, and visiting other US cities, I can say no, the young do not always have charm. In fact they seem to lack more now than ever. If we’re gonna blanket-statement, then it falls on the negative side, I thought we were all at least in agreement there.
Nicole-
“So you may not be attracted to the confidence, but you’re damned sure attracted to the results.”
–very good point.
Dana-
I respect any woman who can stretch her years of any beauty given and have as gradual a decline as possible. She succeeded in this. But no, she is no longer hot. It’s physically impossible to be hot past age 50 anyhow.
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2529314/posts
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””’psycho
Roissy, anyone else:
I’ve caught the eye of an exotic 24 year old Russian. In my neck of the woods, she is an extreme rarity. She’s an 8. I’m an 8.
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You already know she wants you from her eyes so caveman game till you fuck her and if it is good then you can get to know her as much as you want.
I think normal tendancy is to beta up and not want to get into her pants or e-pants too quickly of a woman you really like or should I say pedastalize.
I have done this twice in my life.
One was a 10 when I was 17. Should have fucked the shit out of her but did enjoy the relationship. I cheated on her with multiple woman but never fucked her was probably saving her for marriage.
One is happening now he he he
I don’t think it works out well but it might.
both woman I married fucked within minutes of meeting them.
But the second one may be an exception to the rule so yea. exactly. Not the norm get it he he he
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Miley_Cyrax, point taken.
Hmm, come to think of it, this year I dated a Cuban babe who was 33, and she was still yummm — at that advanced age!
I wonder if there may be any consensus about Latin women tending to age better (less, slower, etc) than the whitest women do… ?
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I have seen a few woman still very attractive pushing on 40, like this chick, I still got the hots for this 39 year old:
But I realize these are statistical outliers. 40 does seem to be the ‘wall’ for women, past that age, 98% will have dropped off the sexual radar.
Any opinions on where the ‘wall’ for men is? It does certainly seem to me that male degradation in looks is generally a lot less obvious than for women. That’s quite apart from the fact that looks are not so important for a man anyway.
Surrender to the ‘wall’ or fight? I say fight. Ultimately, science must defeat not only the degradation in looks, but the very process of aging itself. The loss of beauty from the world is a tragedy. We must strike the root!
[editor: agreed. what a world it would be if women remained beautiful for hundreds of years instead of 20 years.]
Beauty is not the only attractive trait in women. Men are also attracted to empathy and devotion. But beauty is certainly important.
[debbie gibson is about as hot as a woman can look at 39. i would do her. and you’ll notice the critical distinction that sets her apart from so many other women her age — she has REMAINED SLENDER. really, ladies, the best thing you can do for your dating prospects is to stay thin. at least you have control over that.]
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@ lazy guy
Latinas are but various admixtures of whites, blacks, and Amerindians, but I also agree anecdotally that aging is most detectable with white women.
Men may in fact select for females who have “tell” signs for aging. For example, men may prefer large breasts because large breasts sag with age. A girl with large, non-saggy breasts is likely to be still quite young and fertile. Once the breasts start sagging, you know to move on.
With white skin, you can more easily see cellulite and wrinkles. When they start appearing en masse, you know it’s time to move on to more fertile pastures. Men who prefer white skin will do better than men who prefer black skin over time.
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Lupo
“some can be comfortable in their own skin, but that’s not confidence; that’s just the result of being alive for a long time.”
True, R.I.P grandma.
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Interesting assessment.
A lot of this delusion also depends on the woman’s background economic and cultural. Where I live in Hong Kong, many Chinese women who are local, are under pressure to get married to some local guy and be good girls.
But…increasingly because of their ability to travel and get educated, many more are foregoing marriage and blaming the “lack of men” on that–a convenient excuse so that they can meet blokes, travel, have fun with their friends, go shopping and then blame their chosen path of spinsterhood on men.
There is also an annual book fair that for some bizarre reason attracts these slutty wannabee models. or “pseudo-models”.
These are girls who wear skimpy clothese, go by names like “Donut” and show up at this book fair to sell photo albums of themselves.
The organizers seek to “ban” these scantily clad harlots in a bid to add respectability to the whole event.
This is a strange paradox of Chinese society here.
In the 19th century men of means had concubines. Now the tables are turning and women are becoming more assertive of their sexuality and using it for their own gain.
These psuedo models are a kind of barometer for this.
How do you ban someone from attending a public event simply because they’re a pretty girl? Makes no sense.
It shows how beta the organizers are because by singling these women out as some how “bad girls”—it only pedestalizes them among men who are drooling to get at them.
I digress, but it’s an important context that I think fits with your original post.
This leads to two types of girls here: those who are angry and immediately sizing you up and shit testing as a way of eliminating you as a prospect.
The second is a group of women who are super-cool, more open to being gamed and shag.
It’s also interesting that I’ve met and shagged a several married women who said their inattentive husbands were either away or shagging someone else.
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anoukange,
Arguing by anecdote does not prove anything other than the existence of statistical outliers. Women have problems with this fact. They pretend outliers are the rule when they want the rule to be different. But the outliers are just outliers and the truth remains unchanged by their existence.
A woman in her 40s dating a guy in his 20s is incredibly rare compared to a man in his 40s daying a girl in her 20s. Why? Young guys do not find older women attractive the way younger women find older men attractive.
This difference between the sexes is the result of evolution. A woman’s sexual market value is driven much more by fertility. Hence youth is most important. A man’s sexual market value is driven more by his ability to provide assets and protection. Successful older men have more power and resources. Women are wired to want those men. Men are hardwired to want youth.
You can spin all you want. But evolution produced a sexual marketplace that causes women in their 30s and beyond to have rapidly declining attractiveness in the eyes of the vast majority of men.
Kate,
You have a similar problem with averages and evidence. You assert:
Are the women that high status men date higher than average in attractiveness? Yes or no. It is not a matter of opinion that the older a woman gets the more natural beauty she has to have to remain attractive to men.
High status men are going to impose higher standards on which 35 year olds they’ll date than the standards they’ll impose on 20 year olds. The 35 year old has to have more beauty to compensate for the aging. The 35 year old has to look young for her age too.
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Most men, however, have a threshold score.
Yes, if you can’t beat the guys threshold, you are outa-there.
But if the guy has decided to “settle down” and you DO beat his threshold, well then, having lost a point isn’t lethal.
Of course, if you are an insane “witch” with a kid, and all you bring to the table is looks(well, kinda), well, then losing even a point is bad.
See: Wendy Schwartz
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Check out this: http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news/881539/Sex-and-the-City-fan-beds-1000-men.html
Now that she’s fucked 10,000 guys, she just wants to find a good man and settle down.
Illustrates a number of typical patterns: fucks much more on vacation. Gets shitfaced and fucks strangers. Fucks old guys with boats.
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@walawala
I live in Hong Kong too but I think there is only one type of women here, local or western, they’ll all shag/marry/suck/willing to be gamed if you are minted. Money and status is king here (and I suspect the same case in other major cities too).
I think women in general are delusional. They are just deluded about different things in their 20s. Of course they get worse when they reach the other side of their 30s in the sense that they have to lie to themselves about the life they’ve lived up to that point to make themselves feel better after themselves.
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Girls spend all of their twenties riding the cock carousel and deluding themselves into thinking that they all are going to land a millionaire so they never will have to get a job and actually work for a living. Then, once they get older and lose their looks, they are shit out of luck when they have no education, no job, and look like shit. They have nothing to offer to any alpha male so that is why they eventually settle for some loser beta guy.
I dismiss girls who look older than their early twenties on sight. It literally takes less than a second to look at a girl and make a judgment if she is worth talking to. Old women serve no purpose on the Earth. Seriously.
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old bitches that was te best comment so far
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@old bitches
@Z- Dg
You wouldn’t say that if you were the ‘cock carousel’ that ‘the girls spend all of their twenties’ riding.
Good comment? Sounds like bitterness to me.
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now SD I hope you didn’t went to sleep just like that.
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@namae nanka
onow SD I hope you didn’t went to sleep just like that
Yes I did, I had a lovely sleep, thank you very much (for further details on my sleeping habits, see below).
Roissy, I really hate to disappoint you but I do not have Monica’s pneumatic curves, nor am I straight up and down like Kirsten, I am somewhere in between. A highly imperfect version of Carla Bruni’s bod in current form but without the lovely long legs would probably be closer but still ridiculously flattering.
[editor: so you’re not fat? that’ll get you halfway there.]
I am fed up remarking on this forum that I do not have a manjaw, I have a little jaw.
[ok! that’s a relief. but what about your chin? i referred specifically to the chin, since i have noticed lotsa mickettes sport the pronounced facial stalagmite.]
And obviously, being Irish, my skin is so pale as to glow in the dark, this is handy during an electricity strike but means that I have to wear a black velvet eye mask to bed to avoid being kept awake by my own reflective light (you will see a picture of me wearing the eye mask for leisure purposes in the About SDaedalus section of my website).
[i’m a sucker for alabaster skin framed by fiery straight red hair. think lauren holly in dumb n dumber.]
Well, Roissy, I hope you have not got crotchety overnight. I am going to try your patience now and ask you for a favour in return. As I have mentioned on this blog before, I just can’t resist a good pair of legs on a man. And you tantalisingly mentioned at one point that you like to wear shorts. Any chance of a few leg shots?
[third leg?]
Btw a bit of hairy calf is all very well but the ideal would be from the waist down, two shots, front and rear, with at least one (the rear?) involving motion rather than complete statis.
[why don’t i just take a studio shot of my freshly shorn balls and garnish with parsley?]
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“this blog is a thunderdome”
Cause Thunderdome was also rigged.
[editor: rigged for her pleasure.]
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Young women come into sexual awareness by noticing that, around puberty, they have sexual urges of their own plus the really overwhelming fact that every guy between 14 and 70 expresses unconcealed interest and approval of her budding woman-hood (unless she turns fat). So the non-fat ones never encounter any truth about the sexual marketplace except total massive fondling of their egos from the age of 12 until…
Until they hit the WALL. Then its like, how is this possible? I thought I was the chosen one. The special snowflake.
Fade to black.
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Carpe diem…
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I was fearing that you might have landed in the moderation queue again, or perhaps edited out again.
and damn! especially that masked beauty.
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Thank you Namae Nanka, I’m glad you like my portraits. I am still looking for that nude one though. I just need to find the right artist.
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From the first page of my recently arrived copy of The Manipulated Man. A suggested reading from one of the many fine commenters.
“This book is dedicated to all those whom it does not mention: to the few men who refuse to be manipulated, to the few women who are not venal and all those fortunate enough to have lost market value because they are too old, ugly, or too ill.”
Esther Vilar.
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””on July 24, 2010 at 3:47 am Rum
Carpe diem…
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“high fives Rum”
Yea Rum got my back on this one.
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””””Dave2
“this blog is a thunderdome”
Cause Thunderdome was also rigged.
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How was it rigged. Two men went in one man came out.
Now they did find one of the toughest dudes on planet to go against the other dude and start fight but that is not the same as rigged he could have lost. Both had access to the same weapons and no ability to cheat.
Kind of like our host is one of the toughest verbal wranglers in the world and kicks some ass.
People from all walks of life can come on and kick their ideas and try to sway opinion to theirs. Or try to shame. Feminists tend to be destroyed here and either stay for the life changing shit or leave.
And the people here have the same tools and can kick ideas around but only one will prevail I believe once all pretty lies are destroyed.
the truth will set you free.
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@the Captain
What do you make of the wannabee model thing?
I reckon it’s yet another contradiction in this otherwise sexually repressed society where women tend to be much more assertive than the local blokes.
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@Anonymous
Wannabee models? Don’t get me started! I happen to work in the industry. Apart from the top girls who’s very good at what they do who earns top dollars, basically most are wannabes who’s probably decent enough looking, but have not got the skills or too lazy to do anything else other than looking pretty. Girls back in the UK are usually better. As most tend to see modeling as a stop gap or for a quick buck, before they pursue other interests/careers. The ones I’ve met here in Hong Kong are usually foul mouthed, un-educated and with bad manners. In short, unless I’m desperate for pussies I wouldn’t even bothered to game them. Even then.
I’ve seen some of them ended up with bankers or the likes (Beta chumps who make a bit of money are suckers for ‘models’) and some ended up working in the TV and entertainment business. But most to no surprises just end up fading into the background along with their looks.
As for the local blokes, I used to think they are un-assertive betas too. Until one day my local colleagues (all married) took me up to Shanghai to meet their mistresses. It was an eye opener. These guys live (at least) two lives!! Any guys who has the funds/game/energy to do that deserve my respect.
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Xontrarian,
That News of the World article is the best example of female delusion I’ve ever seen.
This “lady” beds down with enough men (and a few women, implied) to make a Tijuana donkey-act star blush, then sells her story to Britain’s tackiest tabloid, and then expresses the hope of meeting a nice man.
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Peak attractiveness is probably around 23. I’d still take a 30-something with a good body and slightly aged face over a fat 20 year old any day.
One think I get sick of hearing from 25+ year old chicks is how young they look for their age. It seems every older girl will go and and on about how she looks younger than she is, while rarely is it true.
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SD-
how the hell did I miss all that above?
I will paint you my luv, as the Venus that you are! 😉
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The other things american chicks have a misconception about from porn that men want them to be lesbians.
If I want to have a threesome or a foresome it is gonna have 2 straight woman or 3 straight woman who are in love with me as the ideal.
Which of course is the hardest to set up.
Who can’t get a lesbian to include her girlfriend but that is gonna leave the guy out on some shit kind of like when the woman has to work.
Try getting two or three straight chicks who love you together in the room and keep them from ripping each others eyes out while pleasuring you. If you can do that then you have made it to the promised land.
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I’m sure you studs don’t care for my relativistic beta statements, but beyond a certain threshold of beauty, other traits, say confidence, intelligence, creativity &c. become more important in my attraction to a girl than yet another point on the infamous beauty scale.
Irrespective of that, some women around their 30th year have a form of beauty distinct and not inferior to the plump charms of youthfulness. Then again, most probably don’t.
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Women over 22 should all just be rounded up and put in Antarctica to spend the rest of their remaining years on Earth. Because so many women are sexually worthless in the world, the overflow can be sent to the wilderness in Siberia where they can properly be housed without bothering anyone. Old women need to be kept as far away from the rest of civilization as possible. Keeping them in these remote locations is the best option to ensure they don’t pollute the Earth any more than what they already are simply still being on it when they have no sexual value anymore.
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Well yea gamut after you realize that they are one of the best woman you have ever had at sex you then test them for another 5 years or so to see if they are marriage material. Testing loyalty things like if they have enough intelligence to be forward thinking. Can they last a year without you there and still remain at the phone every second you call at any time of day. Can they invest the money you give them in something that makes money.
Biggest test so far has been.
Can they see you go broke and be stressed out and at your breaking point and they have all the money and property and support you for a while still upholding the same love and affection or even telling you they love you more every day they look at you but not just telling you but still laughing at all your jokes he he he
And then laughing giddily while telling you how happy they are that your home.
So far she is passing with flying colors just like I knew she would.
My love for her at this point knows no end.
She is my woman.
Well probably alpha but I am starting to wonder if I am human. lol I mean wtf
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I’d always figured 19 was the peak age, although maybe I’ll change my mind today.
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round them up,
Don’t like the truth about aging and attractiveness, eh? Too bad. Emotion-filled hysteria never has and never will change nature. Neither will wishful thinking slogans women employ today as they observe the age spots appear, breasts sag and wrinkle lines sprout like mushrooms after a spring rainstorm.
Besides, nobody here beside yourself is suggesting anything so mindlessly radical as you suggested in your post. Your post is so typical of the sense-free, shoot-the-messenger approach employed by far too many women when confronted with uncomfortable truth.
Deal with the situation as it is as mother nature doesn’t care if you like it or not. The mirror doesn’t lie. Get over it.
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“If I want to have a threesome or a foresome it is gonna have 2 straight woman or 3 straight woman who are in love with me as the ideal.
Which of course is the hardest to set up.”
Its no more than $200 for that, pretty much anywhere in Latin America. I mentally replay a night like that in Cartagena, Colombia, about once every couple of weeks.
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“Women over 22 should all just be rounded up and put in Antarctica to spend the rest of their remaining years on Earth.”
I’m 47 – feel free to send the ones that are about 23-25 over to my crib.
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Bro
“in love with me as the ideal.”
he he he
But yea you are obviously advancing along the path to enlightenment.
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Dirk Johnson: They are already on the decline by then. Of course, at your old age you probably think they are still hot. Fucking loser. I bet you think Betty White is hot as fuck. Go back to the nursing home grandpa.
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“They are already on the decline by then”
True, but just like a woman does, a guy’s gotta know when to settle.
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@ the captain, not bitter just truth. I love it that people alwasy think truth is the same as bittnerness
being ” bitter” is an overused insult, it doesnt work
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It would be great if semi-decent looking women over the age of thirty would be willing to fuck me. Of course what I would really love is if young hot bodied women aged 18-27 would want to fuck.
And It’s not even close. Anyone who says different is either trying to score with these rapidly aging former beauties, or happens to be one of these former beauties, but is now “experienced.”
As a beta we take what we can get, so we probably tend to look at women in their 30’s and 40’s as more attractive than they are. But given the choice it’s a no brainer.
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lozlzozlzozlz rea dteh wholearticle here to find out what i mena by bernankified chix lolzozlzozoz: http://www.savethemales.ca/001904.html
How the Rockefellers Re-Engineered Women
By Henry Makow Ph.D.
Feminism is an excellent example of how the Rockefeller mega cartel uses the awesome power of the mass media (i.e. propaganda.) to control society.
In 40 short years, many women have lost touch with their natural loving instincts. Consequently, the family is in disarray, sexual depravity is rampant and birth rates have plummeted.
I will expand on the Rockefeller’s role, but first we need to remember that for a woman, love is an instinctive act of self-sacrifice.
She gives herself to her husband and children and is fulfilled by seeing them thrive and receiving their love, respect and gratitude.
A woman makes this supreme sacrifice to only one man who will cherish her and provide for his family. Men instinctively want to fulfill this responsibility. This is the essence of the heterosexual contract (i.e. marriage): female power in exchange for male power expressed as love. Sex is the symbol of this exclusive bond. Marriage and family may not be for everyone but it is the natural path for most.
Feminism has trained women to reject this model as “an old fashioned, oppressive stereotype” even though it reflects their natural instincts.
On Thursday a British writer reported overhearing two young women:
“All men are useless these days,” one said. “Yeah,” said the other. “The trouble is that they haven’t risen to the challenge of feminism. They don’t understand that we need them to be more masculine, and instead they have just copped out.”
That’s their logic? If women are less feminine, men will be more masculine? Men aren’t designed to fight with women. They need to be affirmed by a woman’s acquiescence and faith. When women constantly challenge them, men will “cop out” of marriage and family.
Now that love and marriage have been “discredited,” women have nothing left to exchange for love but sex. Thus, many are unnaturally obsessed with appearance and pathetically give their bodies to all and sundry.
Permanent love is not based on a woman’s sex appeal, or personality or achievements. Ultimately, it is based on self-sacrifice. We love the people who love us.
THE BIG PICTURE: THE CENTRAL BANKERS
People do not realize that feminism is mass indoctrination because they cannot identify the perpetrator, the means or the motive.
Recently Aaron Russo, the producer of Bette Midler’s movies and “America: From Freedom to Fascism” identified all three confirming what I have been saying.
While trying to recruit Russo for the CFR, Nicholas Rockefeller told him that his family foundation created women’s liberation using mass media control as part of a long-term plan to enslave humanity. He admitted they want to “chip us.” Google “Rockefeller Foundation” and “Women’s Studies” and you’ll get a half million citations.
The hidden goal of feminism is to destroy the family, which interferes with state brainwashing of the young. Side benefits include depopulation and widening the tax base. Displacing men in the role of providers also destabilizes the family.
A drastic paradigm shift is required to make sense of the world. The Rockefellers are part of the private world central banking cartel that also controls media, defence, pharmaceutical and other cartels. To protect their monopoly of credit and wealth, they are instituting a world police state (“world government”) using the bogus 9-11 attack and endless war as a pretext. Rockefeller told Russo about this plan a year before 9-11.
–http://www.savethemales.ca/001904.html
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It’s interesting how much capricious value you PUAs put on the numerical value of a woman’s age, rather than an age range. There is virtually no difference between a 26 year old and a 21 year old that you can generalize on. You’d think that you PUAs can x-ray vision on a hot girl’s driver’s license when you see her walking down the street. The 21 year old hottie that winked at you at the bar is probably 31. Also consider that a lot of women (who are after your money) lie about their age because they know PUA types care about a woman’s precise age measured in hours.
I can only conclude that a victim’s age is little more than a status symbol to use to show off to other PUAs. “I have a 22 year old in my sack!” “Well, hah-hah! My current pump is 21 so there!” You should be comparing something concrete like waist-to-hip ratios…or photos. It’s like women comparing whether their bf drives a Civic or a Prius. Fertility is loosely related to beauty, but not so much that a 30 year old would necessarily be less pretty than her blooming 16 year old self, even though the latter is more fertile.
As for the article, I can easily agree. Women in their 30s have the knowledge and funds to attain professional beauty treatments that they were otherwise too poor or unaware of back in college days, not to mention access to healthy diet which has a huge effect on how good looking someone is. Being away from college may hopefully help them lay off the binge drinking and smoking, which also make people age faster. This isn’t the Middle Ages anymore where childbearing and farm work catapult girls into matronly womanhood at 25. Lifestyles now are relatively low-stress and it’s easier to live healthy, active lifestyles.
Oh and if the woman doesn’t have kids, that’s like hitting the pause button on her looks for 20 years lol.
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“Go back to the nursing home grandpa.”
By the way, grandson. Its great to reconnect. Your grandmother really knew how to eat ass, and swallow cum, and did a terrific job teaching your mother.
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Rum says, “Until they hit the WALL. Then its like, how is this possible? I thought I was the chosen one. The special snowflake.
Fade to black.”
Women hit a few walls on the way to total sexual obscurity. They just go into extreme denial about the first couple…like crashing and then bouncing a couple of times before skidding to a complete stop.
Most hit the first at about 20-23, when they no longer have that “blossoming” look. Then they become normal, and not much of an attraction.
They cope by dressing more provocatively, using makeup, and dieting.
The next one comes between 27 and 30. Those who aren’t married by then aren’t getting as much attention, even in skimpy clothes. So they’re trying really hard to be noticed. This is a high risk age for “oops” pregnancies.
The 30’s is really where it gets easier to tell the idiots from the non idiots. Idiots start to look bad in a way that no makeup or surgery can truly mask. On the bright side, the plain girls who took good care of themselves and don’t behave like trash still have a decent chance of securing an older man who is looking for a good girl and doesn’t mind one who’s been time tested.
This age range, by the way, is when many who were on the carousel come back to the church.
I think all this wouldn’t be such a big deal if old women weren’t out taking advantage of younger men. There’s dating, and then there’s taking advantage.
Last night, I had a sad conversation with yet another poor boy who got taken in by an older woman who dumped him because he wasn’t the stud she’d imagined he would be. The whole relationship was about the sex for her, but he was actually getting attached, and y’all know a young guy has to really cross some inner barriers to think about life with an older woman.
So these older women think that their ability to take advantage of the desperate or simply open minded, means more than it does. They’re completely out of touch with reality.
They think a bunch of guys going for them because they look like less responsibility and more fun translates to their actually being prettier. It’s more like looking more useful.
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lozlzozozlzl !!! ^^^^^^^^^^^ Sniper so funny
It’s interesting how much capricious value you PUAs put on the numerical value of a woman’s age, rather than an age range. There is virtually no difference between a 26 year old and a 21 year old that you can generalize on. (5 YEARS * 10 COCKS + 2 ASS COCKING SESSIONS PER YEAR = 50 MORE COCKS & 10 ASS COCKING SESSIONS A 26 YEAR OLD HAS HAD LOZZLZOZLZOZLZOZOZ) You’d think that you PUAs can x-ray vision on a hot girl’s driver’s license when you see her walking down the street. (NO BUT WHEN I SEE HER PUSSY I CAN SEE THE DUST ON IT LZOZLZOZLZOZOZLZO AND THE LOOSE ANUS FROM YEARS OF SECRTIVELY TAPED ASSCOCKING SESSIONS FUNDED BY THE NEOCONS PROMOTED BY THE NEOCNS LZOZLZOZLZ) The 21 year old hottie that winked at you at the bar is probably 31 (FUCH PICKIG UP SHCIX IN BARS LZOZLZOZO TR STARBUCKXKXK). Also consider that a lot of women (who are after your money) lie about their age because they know PUA types care about a woman’s precise age measured in hours (LOZOZOZLZZO I WANT IT HOT FRESH TIGHT HOT FRESH TIGHT HOT FRESH TIGHT LET SOME BETA ON DOWN THE LINE BUY IT A RING LZOZLZOZZOZL SHE’LL RIDE MY COCK 2NITE 4 FREE).
I can only conclude that a victim’s age is little more than a status symbol to use to show off to other PUAs. “I have a 22 year old in my sack!” (NO! HOTTER YOUNGER TIGHTER IS BETTER SEX!!!!!!!) “Well, hah-hah! My current pump is 21 so there!” (HOTTER YOUNGER TIGHTER = LESS MENTAL PROBLEMS & LESS HATE OF MEN!!! LZOZLZOZLZLZO) You should be comparing something concrete like waist-to-hip ratios…or photos ( I DON’T WANT TO LOOK AT PHOTOS OF DRIED UP EGG HOSTS OVER 30 LZOZOZOZLZOZO EVEN 29 IS BORING). It’s like women comparing whether their bf drives a Civic or a Prius. Fertility is loosely related to beauty, but not so much that a 30 year old would necessarily be less pretty than her blooming 16 year old self, even though the latter is more fertile (HEY FUCK TARD WHAT IS WRONG WITH LOVING FERTIEL ATTRACTIVE WOMENZ WHTHE FUCK IS YOUR PROBLEM LZOZLZLZ? ZLOZLZLZZLZ).
As for the article, I can easily agree. Women in their 30s have the knowledge and funds to attain professional beauty treatments that they were otherwise too poor or unaware of back in college days, not to mention access to healthy diet which has a huge effect on how good looking someone is. ( FUCK THAT SHIT I DON’T WANT A 30 YEAR OLD WITH KNOWLEDGE ABOUT HOW TO PUT ON A PAIR OF SPANX AND LIE AND SUCK IT IN AND PAINT HER FACE AS IT LOOKS FAKE FAKE FAKE I WANT HOT FRESH YOUNG TIGHT NATURAL YUM YUM YUM ZLZZOLLZZLZOZZO)Being away from college may hopefully help them lay off the binge drinking and smoking, which also make people age faster. This isn’t the Middle Ages anymore where childbearing and farm work catapult girls into matronly womanhood at 25 (YAH TOO BD FOR THE CAT-LOVING SPINSTER SLZOZLZOZLZLZOZO). Lifestyles now are relatively low-stress and it’s easier to live healthy, active lifestyles (WHILE YOUR EGGS DRYUP LZOZOZLZOZOZOZLZOZ AND YOUR PUSSY GATHERS DUST REQUIRING ALELAF BLOWER TO JUST FIND THE CLIT LZOZLZLOZ).
Oh and if the woman doesn’t have kids, that’s like hitting the pause button on her looks for 20 years lol. (LZOZOZZLZOZOZOZ NO A 30 YEAR OLD CHILDNESSS KID STILLS HAS HINTS FO THE TURKEY NECK GOBBLE GOOBBBLE LOOZOLZOZOL AND SASAGGING TIITTIES LZOZLZZO)
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i wnat her young hot and tight
young hot and tight 4 tonight
now that her soul has been berankified
and her heart has been petrified
i wnat her young hot and tight
young hot and tight 4 tonight
let some beta buy her a ring
so she can dovorce him & take his bling
i wnat her young hot and tight
young hot and tight 4 tonight
nw that sh’es wokring for the central bankers
who desouled women into welath-transfer tankers lzozlz
i wnat her young hot and tight
young hot and tight 4 tonight
you can hjave her as a wife tomorrow
and deal with all her secretive assocked sorrow
i wnat her young hot and tight
young hot and tight 4 tonight
you cantake her out buy her dinner
and let her tell you you’re the winner (lzozlzozzl)
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Sniper,
You can’t get away with comments like that without telling us how old you are. Although, to be fair, maybe we should let people guess first, then you can tell everyone how inaccurate they were.
My favorite picture of you is this one. Your Loli look is going to add some confusion to the task of estimating your age, which is I guess part of the point you are making, so let’s see how closely people can peg you.
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(Since my previous comment is being held up, reposting with a reference that is not a link)
Sniper,
You can’t get away with comments like that without telling us how old you are. Although, to be fair, maybe we should let people guess first, then you can tell everyone how inaccurate they were.
My favorite picture of you is the one from the July fifth post on your blog. Your Loli look is going to add some confusion to the task of estimating your age, which is I guess part of the point you are making, so let’s see how closely people can peg you based on that picture.
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Sniper @ 12:57pm,
Fantastic comment. Very much what I’ve been thinking but couldn’t quite articulate.
I’m sure there are truly some men who have specific age preference, but sometimes I wonder if all this talk that women are only attractive for a few years isn’t a way for men who’ve never had much luck in love to try to stick it to women. Anything a man like this can say and do to make a woman feel as worthless about herself as he does about himself and all that. It’s really sad that anyone should feel worthless.
[editor: what about those of us who are just sadistic bastards who like to watch pretty lie purveyors squirm with discomfort?]
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^^^ lzozozozlzozozl
Kate
Sniper @ 12:57pm,
“Fantastic comment. Very much what I’ve been thinking but couldn’t quite articulate.” lzozlzl what are you incabaple of writing words lzozlzo i thoutght womensz were smart llzozlzlzozo
“I’m sure there are truly some men who have specific age preference (FUCK YAH! LIKE ALL OF US!!!), but sometimes I wonder if all this talk that women are only attractive for a few years isn’t a way for men who’ve never had much luck in love to try to stick it to women (OMG I HAVE STUCK IT TO LOTSA WOMENZ AND I LIKE THE YOUNGER HOTTER TIGHTER = LESS ISSUES LESS BITCHIENESS LESS SORE ANUSES LESS BITCHINESS LESSS MOPING LESS GINA STRETCHING LESS ANAL BLEEDING LZOZLZOZO MORE HOTNESS MORE CUDDLINESS MORE ATTRACTIVE MORE FUN LESS STRETC MARKS LESS TURLKY NEXK LESS PARANOIA MORE SOULS MOR EHEART PRETTYIER HOTTER TIGHTER). Anything a man like this can say and do to make a woman feel as worthless about herself as he does about himself and all that (LZOZOZOZLZOZOZO I DON’T FEEL WORTHLESS IT IS DA WOMENZ WH HIT 28 & FEEL WORTLESS BECAUSE THEY ROAD THE CLOTSA COCKA CAROUSEL AND WERE BITCHY BITCHY TO DA NICE MEN WHILE CUCKING MY COCKA LZOZLZOZOZOZL BUT WHATYA GONNA DO DATS WHAT WOMEN DO AND ACT LIKE LZOZLZOZ). It’s really sad that anyone should feel worthless. (YAH WHY DO YOU FEEL SO WORHLESS I AM SORRY BERNAKE FUNDED ALL THE LIES WHICH MADE YOU EXALT YOUR GINA TINGLE S OVER GOD MAN GOD MAN FAMILY CHILDREN LZOZLZOZL BUT YOU MADE YOUR BED AND THATS HOW YOU GET TO SLEEP INIT SUPPORTING THE NEOCON SECRTEIVE TAPINGS OF ASSOCKCING SESSIONS LZOZOZZL POOR POOR BEERNAKIFIED SHCIHC KZZPZLZLZOZO)
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GBFW that was one of the most hilarious responses I have ever seen. GBFW 1, Sniper 0.
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hey sniper how many cocks have you had total and how many guys have you turned down to pursue cocks and gina tingles lzozlzlzozozl
how many onenight stands have you had?
so why should i ever pay for it? lzozlzozlzlz
once a girl has had a one night stand no man in thier right nind would ever pay to date her lzozlzlz
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Hahahaha, brilliant.
GBFM 2, Sniper 0
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GBFM (typo)
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In reply to our charming blog host (otherwise known as Mr Caustic Soda) I really hate to disappoint you but I do not have Monica’s pneumatic curves, nor am I straight up and down like Kirsten, I am somewhere in between. A highly imperfect version of Carla Bruni’s bod in current form but without the lovely long legs would probably be closer but still ridiculously flattering.
Why can’t you just be forthright, SD? Is it so difficult to write a simple declarative sentence?
You begin by flattering Roissy with charming but are quick to counter it with Mr. Caustic Soda. Next you say I really hate to disappoint you but that is a lie, or at least feigned pretension. Finally you compare yourself to Carla Bruni (french and exotic) but to not appear vain you say it is imperfect and ridiculously flattering.
You are a lawyer cunt, indeed.
I am fed up remarking on this forum that I do not have a manjaw, I have a little jaw.
It isn’t that you have a manjaw -that would be the least of your worries. It is that you have occupied traditional male territory -manipulative, cunning, excessive need to win arguments, ballbusting -all traits one needs to become a lawyer, or in your case, a lawyer cunt.
Even your icon is a trick -the puppy dog with the smile. If you were honest you’d have put a picture of a woman in a power-suit with hairspray and shoulder pads, carrying a briefcase.
Now kindly fuck off, cunt.
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Kate, why should accepting the reality of aging, and the fact that this reduces their general sexual market value make someone feel worthless?
…unless from the waist up, they are.
I wouldn’t mind feminists or the generally deluded so much if they weren’t such hypocrites. So many of them do nothing with their time on this planet but complain and scheme ways to get the maximum profit for the minimum work, and can’t even go about that in a logical way.
If someone creates nothing and does nothing truly positive for any other human being except provide eyecandy, they should feel worthless when their years of being eyecandy are over?
She should feel like she’s wasted herself, and do something productive before she dies. If she’s not going to do that then she is indeed just sucking up resources for nothing.
At least if a woman accepts the reality, she can get positive attention, and maybe even boners, from being cool. The few guys out there who do like a mature woman, or who do get turned on by good company, don’t want a harpy in denial or overly entitled retired hoe.
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“Oh and if the woman doesn’t have kids, that’s like hitting the pause button on her looks for 20 years lol.”
niper: You are so full of shit you should just stop posting. You think that if a woman doesn’t have a kid her looks will stay the same from age 18-38?!?!?! You must be smoking crack. Keep on telling yourself that the 40 year olds you are fucking are hotter than 18 year olds. Fucking dumbass.
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GBFM = GReat Booooobis 4 MEE!!!!
lozozzlzlz
see what roissy represents is a paraigm shift lzozlzozlzozl
womenz wanted to have
1) liberation to suck and fuck lotsa cocka
2) happy marriages lzozlzlzozlzlozozlzozzozlzl
ben bernanke told them they could have both but just like goldman sax rhymes with tucker max bernanke is a fiat master and thus only intereste din teh short term pump and dump and basically they pumped and dumped an entire egeneration fo womenz telling them, “ya h yah suck it suck my neoconcockka and then you can go get married lzozozlzo to some beta herb”
lzozlzozlzlzo
and now womenz are going
wahahahh hahahahahahahwhahahahahaha
“i am still hot!!” she screams as her turkey neck gullet reverberates and jiggles
“i am beuatiful!” she screams as her fat arms sag as she raises them over her head in faux triumph “30 is hotter than 20!” she screams as she knows her expiration date has passed and now she will be a bitter old womens for the next fifty years working selling berannke subprime loans in short skirts lzozlzozolzlzlzlzlz
“i am better than ever!” she screams as her eggs have mutaed to raise the chances of down syndrome and fucking a lot won’t even get her pregnant now that her fertility has plummeted and with those stds and her sore anus form the neocns secrievt tapings of asscokcing sessions funded and promoted by the neocns who exalt short liars and cherubic faced mama boys as alpha males zlozlzlzlz
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“Women in their 30s have the knowledge and funds to attain professional beauty treatments that they were otherwise too poor or unaware of back in college days, not to mention access to healthy diet which has a huge effect on how good looking someone is. ”
College girls get the same beauty treatments. Pedicure, manicure, spa treatment, etc. Women in their 30s just have more disposable income to throw away on brand name clothing from rent-seeking companies. Cosmetics and clothing is a necessity and not a luxury for women who are 6-10s.
“There is virtually no difference between a 26 year old and a 21 year old that you can generalize on. ”
Yeah. You can. The 21 year-old is hotter and fresher. Correlations need not be 1.00 to be very significant.
“The 21 year old hottie that winked at you at the bar is probably 31.”
No! She’s probably 41! The 41 year-old across the bar is hot because female beauty is timeless and she is so much hotter than 21 year-olds because of her career and life experiences and I just automatically assume the 41 year-old is 21 because I’m a PUA who thinks all hot girls must be young and who wants to brag to his friends!
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Yeah even Sniper’s hamster looked at her like she was nuts after that comment. He got off the wheel and said fuck this I’m outta here.
[editor: comment of the month!]
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Attractive, never-married 30-year-old woman who still has her figure = biggest ball-breakers you’ve ever meet.
If they have the looks and the right background, they always have a shot at becoming a trophy wife for a wealthy guy in his 50s or 60s. Plus, they can still pull young good-looking guys for ‘stud service’.
Part of it is “rationalization hamsters”, but a lot of women in this age are “players” just as much as you guys are.
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I predict that at some point along this trainwreck prostitutes will be the only woman you can have an ltr with. The laws will have become so numerous that men will not be able to talk to a normal woman. They will only be able to get with a woman who charges. Then you got to win her over to make her yours.
Work your caveman game fellas he he he
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GBFM: Nice replies to sniper. Funny!
Nicole: Good, thoughful post and reply to Kate. Kate’s response makes me wonder if she thinks that way because her days of being eye candy and the center of attraction are over. Cool women who are past their prime can still find a life partner if their expectations are realistic. A good attitude goes a long way.
Many men don’t want brain-dead eye candy pump-and-dump mannequin buckets. Some actually enjoy the company of women lacking the entitlement mentality who doesn’t feel the need to whine every detail or correct every perceived flaw in the man. Listening to a woman whine about being made to feel worthless because of someone else’s opininon is about as sexy and appealing as using newspaper in the place of toilet paper.
sniper: Maybe in your world the 45 year-old who never had children still looks as good as she did at 25.
Substance abuse is such a tragic thing.
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“gunslingergregi
I predict that at some point along this trainwreck prostitutes will be the only woman you can have an ltr with. The laws will have become so numerous that men will not be able to talk to a normal woman. They will only be able to get with a woman who charges. Then you got to win her over to make her yours.
Work your caveman game fellas he he he”
the aweosme thing about prositutes is that unlike marriages churches lzozlzzozozl unlike ministers church marriages pimps and prostitues won’t charge you for past use of a pussy while she’d banging otehr man, like the bernake courts do with alimony vaginamoney lzozlzozlzozozzozozoz charging u for past use of a pussy which is now banging drummers bikers lzozlzl
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betadyourmom,
Good points. Every woman has her price. Only some work on street corners, LOL.
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greatbooksformen,
I have known that for some time.. escorts are a much better deal than LTRs.
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It is almost like nicole is turning into a real woman with some substance.
Like some pinochio story that could be turned into a disney movie from hell.
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If you lie to a woman and you have consensual sex with her, it is officially “rape”
“”It is terrible, but the law says very clearly that if someone has sexual intercourse using deception about his identity to conduct the act, it can be considered rape,” said Leah Samael, a lawyer specializing in civil rights and human rights cases.”
Similar laws exist in California and Massachusetts
http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/07/21/israel.rape.by.deception/index.html
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The world has gone crazy
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Tim-
“Why can’t you just be forthright, SD? Is it so difficult to write a simple declarative sentence?”
I adore SD, as we all know, but she does beat around the bush. She avoids questions like those asked because you all will shred her and she knows it. If anything, she’s self-protective, which is mandatory round here.
“[editor: what about those of us who are just sadistic bastards who like to watch pretty lie purveyors squirm with discomfort?]”
–give it a fucking rest already.
[editor: make me.]
Squirm? Try telling the truth about YOUR age. You are not in your mid-thirties and you know it.
[sorry to disappoint, but i am. you always believe everything you see on the internet, gullibilitygirl?]
I support your taste for young girls, I do not knock this nor do I bitch about it, I would even wing in fun for you. But I do tend to lose respect for liars.
[your respect means nothing to me. however, you can sleep soundly tonight that i tell the truth on this matter.]
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“[editor: what about those of us who are just sadistic bastards who like to watch pretty lie purveyors squirm with discomfort?]”
I guess I would wonder why this brings you pleasure.
[editor: for the same reason an orgasm brings me pleasure.]
“Kate, why should accepting the reality of aging, and the fact that this reduces their general sexual market value make someone feel worthless?
…unless from the waist up, they are.”
I don’t recall ever stating that women — like men — don’t age and become less attractive. My point is that if a woman takes care of herself, her looks will not drop off a cliff the minute she turns 25, 30, etc.
[MOST women’s looks drop off a cliff after 35. do you understand the use of the qualifier “most”? it means that, yes, there may be a few women who go on looking great into their 40s, but the majority of them will look a lot less desirable at 35 than they did at 25.]
I was also trying to point out that it makes sense that men would be attracted to beauty, but like Sniper said, a man might be surprised to know how old the hottie he’s had his eye on actually is — a 30-something who takes care of herself can be just as lovely as a 20-something who does not.
[if by “30-something” you mean early 30s, then yeah there are a few who continue looking good. but i havent seen many women look good once past their mid 30s. christ, i was walking down the street recently and saw an ex i dated three years ago walk by. she was 30 when i dated her. the three years took a toll on her face i couldn’t believe — bloated neck, thinner lips, crinkled eyes, sorrowful expression. it was all so fucking depresssing, but then i thanked my lord below that i got out of the relationship just in the nick of time.]
And maybe it’s true that it takes more effort to maintain youth and beauty as we get older, but it’s really not that difficult and well worth it. I think respectable, attractive older women are very regal, while maybe not the most sexy.
[regality ensures polite compliments at cocktail parties, but it won’t induce many boners.]
I plan to fully embrace it all, while looking as good as possible, of course.
[might as well fight it. beats giving up and porking out.]
GBFM @1:45pm,
I appreciate your thoughts, thank you.
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Nicole-
“I think all this wouldn’t be such a big deal if old women weren’t out taking advantage of younger men.”
–what. the. fuck.
Yeah, like that ever happens. Men getting taken against their will by a cougar. Right.
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“College girls get the same beauty treatments. Pedicure, manicure, spa treatment, etc”
Some of them sure, but a lot of college girls are slackers and broke too. Freshman fifteen, bad hair, bad makeup, lazy Gap-style clothing, sneakers. College guys are the same way, plentiful, and easy, so why try too hard?
Nothing like the job/dating market to get a girl down to the gym, the salon, and the shoe store. From personal experience, a lot of women are better-looking at 23-25 than they were at 21.
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Nicole,
The second part of my last comment was meant to be addressed to you, sorry.
And about the whole worthless thing… It’s not merely stating that as we all age we all become less attractive, it’s forcing the issue that women could possibly only have 5 years or so of beauty. I think men who say such things are hoping that women find most of their self-worth in how they look. If they can take that away by saying women are only attractive for a few years, I can only speculate that this is for the effect of making women feel worthless. And usually, only a person who feels worthless about him/herself, wants others to feel the same way.
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”””””on July 24, 2010 at 2:29 pm greatbooksformen
“gunslingergregi
I predict that at some point along this trainwreck prostitutes will be the only woman you can have an ltr with. The laws will have become so numerous that men will not be able to talk to a normal woman. They will only be able to get with a woman who charges. Then you got to win her over to make her yours.
Work your caveman game fellas he he he”
the aweosme thing about prositutes is that unlike marriages churches lzozlzzozozl unlike ministers church marriages pimps and prostitues won’t charge you for past use of a pussy while she’d banging otehr man, like the bernake courts do with alimony vaginamoney lzozlzozlzozozzozozoz charging u for past use of a pussy which is now banging drummers bikers lzozlzl
”””””””
I was always interested in the story of mary magdeline because it was a story of redemption in the great book.
Now this is the wierd part it seems like in my life when I get an idea to do something I may not consciously do it but my life leads towards what I want to accomplish.
I have seen so many supposed “quality” woman fucker over their men in bad times.
So yea I took that story and repeated it.
Jesus saved the life of a prostitute from stoning.
I saved the life of a prostitute when she called me one night and was in trouble willing to give up my life in the process but of course I didn’t die.
Who was at the cross of jesus his mom and the former prostitute.
In my time of need my family except for my sister was not there for me.
The former prostitute has been there in my time of need.
Just amazing when you follow the good book he he he
So really I think catholics should have no problem making it morally ok jesus was hanging with her so she was not below human and also I think it is what gave her massive internal strength as well to be there at his worse.
A story of redemtion fullfilled.
I love that stuff. Romantic as heck for me he he he
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why do girls post here and then go run andhide and create feminist studies departments funded by ben bernanke to spread lies and misinfomration to rtransfer money form working men to the federal reserve divorce anus asscocking secrteive tapings of butthex regime?
why hwy hwy?
lzozlzlz
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I’ve been mulling over this topic and am going to come and post again.
In the meantime:
@Doyourownresearch
There was no reason for him to ‘stroke’ me and I don’t need to ‘delude’ myself, it wasn’t a date situation and as I said we’ve known each other for years. He doesn’t need to think about negging or anything, as I said he’s a natural alpha (as well as being good looking, successful & noble/kind in an English gentleman way), he’s always had more women wanting him than he could handle. He recently asked me to marry him so I definitely don’t think he was stroking me for the sake of it.
@namae nanka
“That’s the way girls argue. The personal is required because the abstract is unknown.”
Aww, sweetie. I wasn’t arguing. You’ll know when I am 🙂
101 on boys and girls, just watch some very young ones – boys bond by rushing around and blowing things up together etc, girls bond by sharing information and secrets.
@Tim
Wow, that’s so endearing the way you spoke to
sdaedalus. Must get you really far in life.
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“[sorry to disappoint, but i am. you always believe everything you see on the internet, gullibilitygirl?]”
–I knew the name calling wouldn’t be too far behind any disagreeing comment I made. CR, I met you once, briefly, and shook you hand. Also, you forget that I live in DC, actually quite near where you used to. I know some of the same folks who know you personally, let’s keep it civil and I’ll leave it at that.
[editor: the person writing this to you right now is not the person you think it is. try to think how that could be. it isn’t a difficult mystery. hint: misinformation planting.]
“[your respect means nothing to me…”
–uh, duh, no kidding. Like I though for a second it did. I used it as an expression.
[if you knew your respect didn’t mean anything to me, why did you bother trying to shame me with it?
ps i haven’t lived in dc in nearly two years.]
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My previous post didn’t get a response, so I’ll repeat here — time for a “Guess Sniper’s age” contest. I linked a picture at 1:27pm and based on it I will guess she is 23. (No fair trying to judge from her comments, since what she is claiming is that you can’t judge age very well from appearance alone.)
[editor: it’s hard to tell because she cakes on the makeup. but i’d guess early to mid 20s.]
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^^^^^
hey kte are you afuckity fucktarnation?
“Kate
Nicole,
The second part of my last comment was meant to be addressed to you, sorry.
And about the whole worthless thing… It’s not merely stating that as we all age we all become less attractive, it’s forcing the issue that women could possibly only have 5 years or so of beauty. I think men who say such things are hoping that women find most of their self-worth in how they look. If they can take that away by saying women are only attractive for a few years, I can only speculate that this is for the effect of making women feel worthless. And usually, only a person who feels worthless about him/herself, wants others to feel the same way.”
If it is true dat womenz are less attractive as tehy age and i speak the truth are you sayingthat i speak the truth to make others feel small or that i speak the truth to make myself feel better?
i speak the truth becvause i like speakingthe truth.
if you have a problem with it go cry to ben bernanke who will wire you some fiat dollars to cricmilaize truth speakers in yoru fmeiniststudeis class lzozlzozlzlzlz
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@editor
“[if by “30-something” you mean early 30s, then yeah there are a few who continue looking good. but i havent seen many women look good once past their mid 30s. christ, i was walking down the street recently and saw an ex i dated three years ago walk by. she was 30 when i dated her. the three years took a toll on her face.]”
Well then the 31 may be a good guesstimate n’est pas? Either that, or the great man such as yourself leaving her destroyed her.
[editor: guesstimate for what? peak beauty? no. just because women can continue looking good at 31 doesn’t mean that is the age of their peak beauty. the study i mocked in this post so gleefully is pushing lies. most women peak in beauty in their early 20s, then it’s a slow decline to the late 20s and early 30s, a faster decline past 35, and finally the splat of the wall in the late 40s to 50.]
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I find women in the 29-33 range easiest to hook up with, but also the scariest because they are on the precipice and looking to get married. Why marry a girl that will turn ugly right after.
24 year olds are my favorites. Too bad they have often just made the mistake of entering law school here in dc.
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””””’Advocatus Diaboli
greatbooksformen,
I have known that for some time.. escorts are a much better deal than LTRs.
””””
I say they make better wives than what you would hear described as quality woman. Maybe not ones in states but yea other than.
Like I said before my buddy in army in germany married a hooker. She gave him over a hundred grand to start his own automotive shop. He got out of army and started it.
I married a “quality” woman who expected me to work till I died. In the end with her I had nothing after 5 years.
Who got the better deal?
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“[MOST women’s looks drop off a cliff after 35. do you understand the use of the qualifier “most”? it means that, yes, there may be a few women who go on looking great into their 40s, but the majority of them will look a lot less desirable at 35 than they did at 25.]”
Yes, I do understand what “most” means. Please allow me to point out that I don’t feel like it is you who have this attitude here as much as some of the other commenters. My impression of you is that you enjoy beauty, even if it comes in the form of a 30-something, a different race, etc. Although, it is obvious you have your preferences. No biggie, so do I.
[editor: i of course lament the toll that the aging process takes on women. it’s proof positive that if god exists he is a sadistic cunt. if i could wave a magic wand and cure aging so that women remained as beautiful at 90 as they do at 20, i’d do it in a heartbeat.]
“[regality ensures polite compliments at cocktail parties, but it won’t induce many boners.]”
Why would I be concerned with the condition of some random man’s penis? Especially at the age of 60 or so. I would hope to be in a loving relationship with a man who still loved me. He would be the only person I would seek approval from.
[well, since men all chub alike for the same archetypical stimulus, your inability to arouse random men would highly suggest your husband is equally unable to get aroused for you.]
“editor: for the same reason an orgasm brings me pleasure.]”
I don’t understand how orgasms and watching someone squirm in discomfort are correlated, but I’m not the brightest bulb here, so maybe someone else got it.
[it’s its own reward.]
I’m sorry your ex is looking so rough these days. Maybe she was just having a bad day. I wonder how well she takes care of herself? Stress can certainly age a person. Maybe you broke her heart.
[i was pretty good to her. when i dated her she was a looker, so i put in a bit more effort than i would have with a less attractive girl. but an ex of hers entered the picture, and complications ensued. perhaps the intervening years were a heartache for her, but it wouldn’t have been at my hand.]
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“101 on boys and girls, just watch some very young ones – boys bond by rushing around and blowing things up together etc, girls bond by sharing information and secrets.”
same as saying boys bond on abstract principles, girls on personal notes. boys see girls chattering endlessly, girls see boys blowing things up.
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I think sniper mentioned it as 23 on her blog. She is a female though.
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lololooloolzolzozlzlzozoz
http://dissention.wordpress.com/2010/07/17/the-greatest-ponzi-scheme-1/
“We can also use the terms of Greatbooksformen to describe the situation:
1) The system: the fiat butthex matrix.
2) The Ponzi sheme: the butthex.
3) The governors: the fiat masters.
4) The pillars of the system: the desouled women.
5) The people: the men.
—–
Interesting Idea.”
finally da woerld is caching on lzozlzzoz
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correction: on this blog itself, at her first appearance.
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namae,
I hadn’t seen that, but if you’re right, then my estimate was a bullseye, which provides some evidence against Sniper’s claims.
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Epic fail, again.
The real issue here is Men, 100%
In USA, 90% of Men are married once by age 30.
So, the only REAL reason women think what you posted, is b/c 90% of men cant face the loneliness of coming home to an empty apt., facing another barren happy hour, or the crushing judjement of their peers sending out marriage invites.
So, while its easy to point the finger at 30’something Women, its the weak MEN who enable it.
Only in the vast far reaches of Sub saharan africa, asian jungles, the Taliban, and those weird Polygamous sects in Utah/TX are women openly told that they are relegated to 2nd tier status once here ovum are not at peak <25.
I can opely call this out, as I hunted, suffered and succeeded against these weak Men here in NYC where they go home to the flabby arms, saggy boobs, and dry pussies of these women for solace as they battle against me in the workplace and as losing cheaters in the dating pool.
Find a story on the <10% of Bachelors who refuse the marriage slavery, divorce asset looting, and who openly bang <29 Women, while over 40.
The USA is still prudish, and cant handle 10-15 yr younger wives by older men.
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@Kate
“I’m sure there are truly some men who have specific age preference, but sometimes I wonder if all this talk that women are only attractive for a few years isn’t a way for men who’ve never had much luck in love to try to stick it to women. Anything a man like this can say and do to make a woman feel as worthless about herself as he does about himself and all that. It’s really sad that anyone should feel worthless.”
I think this is why this post rankled me.
Sure, there are plenty of 30 something single women who strut around thinking they are as hot as they were when they were 21 (there are also guys who still hang around clubbing in their 40s and acting like they were at 30 but have hit the wall but less of them).
But when I was 21, I was in my prime physically, I didn’t have 33 year olds treating me as if I were at the peak of my beauty, sure they swarmed
[editor: and why do you think they swarmed? was it your sparkling personality?]
but the way I felt was more in tune to wanting a notch, or at best a STR. They always married the 28-33 year old sophisticated women.
[many men, because of family or social pressure, or because they decide that a much younger woman is a flight risk in a marriage, will happily date but think twice about marrying the hottie co-ed fling. if certain concerns could be allayed, i think you’d see a lot more men marrying 21 year olds.]
I felt insecure then and now guys are trying to make 30 something women insecure too.
[you’re insinuating a motive were there doesn’t ned to be one. i’m simply giving you a shot of reality straight up, and watching how you react to the heady brew. most women cannot take a dose of reality for long without lashing out at the supposed motivations or personality defects of the messengers. if you are insecure, perhaps there’s good reason. reality is a bitch.]
As if girls aren’t insecure enough with what the magazines throw at them from a young age.
[if glam mags make girls insecure, all they have to do is push away from the magazine stand. and yet, they don’t do that. why? maybe it could have something to do with women knowing in their subconscious just how vitally critical it is that they remain as attractive as long as they can if they want a shot at the alpha of their dreams.]
I didn’t really come into my own till I was 23 or 24 (and I was early compared to friends) and with the change in mindset, my ‘dating market value’ increased and I did end up marrying the older successful guy a year later, and he certainly wasn’t the only one offering.
[so you married an older successful man at age 25, well within your peak attractiveness years. thanks for proving my point.]
If someone really thinks there is no difference in the beauty of say an 8.5 who has confidence and comfortable in their own skin and a 9 who is ‘not so depressed that she shuts herself indoors and whimpers in a corner in the fetal position’, it means they don’t know what beauty is.
[women don’t need to agree with men on what beauty is; they just need to know how to get him hard. btw, a sulking 9 can be quite an alluring vision.]
I shouldn’t be rankled, he is the Dark Lord after all. He is so perceptive and writes so well that I sometimes forget he’s evil.
[if you’re young, pretty, and married to an alpha, why does what i write here bother you?]
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lolzozlzozlzlzl!!
Silver “i eat cox” Fox writes:
Epic fail, again.
The real issue here is Men, 100%
In USA, 90% of Men are married once by age 30. LOZLZOZLZOZLZOZOZZL TO CHIX WHO HAVE SUCKD AND CUFCKED DOZENS 4 FREE WHEN THEY WERE YOUNGER HOOTTER TIGHTED AND SAID MEN WILL SOON GET SSS RPAED IN COURT LZOZLZLZOZOZLZ AS 2/3 of divorceces are initiated by womenz lolzozlzlzlz.
So, the only REAL reason women think what you posted, is b/c 90% of men cant face the loneliness of coming home to an empty apt. (LOZOZZL FUCKTARD IF YOU MARY A WOMAN THESE DAYS CHANCES ARE YOU WILL COME HOE TO AN EMPTY APRATEMNT WHILE SHES OUT WORKING LONG HOURS FOR HER FIAT MBA NBERNAKE BOSS LZOZLZOZLZZOZZLZO SUCKING AN DUCKIGHER WAY UP TEH CORPROATE WHORPORATE ALDDR LZOZLZOZLZOZZ), facing another barren happy hour (FUCK HAOPY HOURS THEY ARE FOR AGING GINAS WITH MARTIBIS LOZZLOZZL), or the crushing judjement of their peers sending out marriage invites (LZOZOZOZLZL YAH I AM SO JEALOUS OF MY PEERS SPENING TENDS OF THOUSANDS ON STRECTED STD PUSSY THAT GAVE ITSELF AWAY 4 FREE WHEN IT WAS YOUNGER HOTTER TIGHTER RIDING DA COCK CAROULSE UNTIL MARRYING A BETA LZOLZZLO).
So, while its easy to point the finger at 30′something Women, its the weak MEN who enable it. (LOZZOZZL YAH BECAUSE I FUCK YOUNG HOT TIGHT THAT MAKES ME WEAK. LZOZOZL . YAH JUST BEACUASE ID ONT WANNA SUPPORT BENERNAKE SPANK ME DIVORCE REGIME THAT MAKES ME WAEKA. YAH JUST BECAUSE I AM NOT PAYING THE BILLS OF A PUSSY THAT IS ALREADY OLD AND STD ADDLED AND STERECTED MAKE S ME WEAK LZOZLZLZOZLZZOZLZZOZOZ))
Only in the vast far reaches of Sub saharan africa, asian jungles, the Taliban, and those weird Polygamous sects in Utah/TX are women openly told that they are relegated to 2nd tier status once here ovum are not at peak <25 (LOZLZOZLZ WHILE ONLY IN THE USA DID WOMEN VOLUNATILRY MURDER 50,000,000 UNBRON AT THE BEHEST OF TEH BANKERS LZOZLZOZL AND ONLY IN THE USA DO WOEMNZ THINK TEHY ARE ENTITLED TO A MANS ASSETTS AND ACAN FUCK AND SUC AND NEVER PAY 4 THIR SINS LZOZLZOZLZOZZLZOZOZ THE LOZLOZZOOL IS ON DEM LZOZLZOZLZO).
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”””””’on July 24, 2010 at 2:58 pm anoukange
“[sorry to disappoint, but i am. you always believe everything you see on the internet, gullibilitygirl?]”
–I knew the name calling wouldn’t be too far behind any disagreeing comment I made. CR, I met you once, briefly, and shook you hand. Also, you forget that I live in DC, actually quite near where you used to. I know some of the same folks who know you personally, let’s keep it civil and I’ll leave it at that.
””””””’
Behold the american womans response and internalize it.
This is your future.
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the hamster runneth wild here:
http://blogs.qvcuk.com/qgossip/2010/07/flirty-thirties-teach-the-other-ages-how-its-done-finds-qvc-survey.html
“Yep, I can agree with that. I was DEFINATELY at my peak at 31, I remember it well. I can honestly say, I had never felt so comfortable in my own skin. Then I just ambled along till I reached 40. Wow, Life DID begin at 40, it was like I had a new lease of life.”
“Dont really agree with the age 31 , at that age I was a very busy mum who most of the time didnt have a lot of time for myself, my ideal age for confidence and having the money to spend on myself( when kids had left home ) was 45 I started to really watch styles and dressed very well , still do at 63 and am always told oh you look stunning by my friends , “
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” guesstimate for what? peak beauty? no. just because women can continue looking good at 31 doesn’t mean that is the age of their peak beauty.”
Depends on how you define beauty. If it’s purely physical and how they look like then I can understand that in an abstract photos in a magazine kind of way but not in real life when you want to spend your life with someone.
I got out my old photos today, both regular snapshots and modelling ones ranging from 15-33 and I looked best at 22. But overall, I was a more beautiful woman overall at say 30, sadly on the decline since then, I can feel the elasticity in my skin going. So what, it’s just natural. No reason to be insecure.
Sure, there are guys out there who just want to be with young flesh all the time, good luck to them.
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@Tim
Wow. While we share an appreciation for simple declarative sentences, I think you are being a bit harsh on SDaedalus.
It is true that she does enjoy verbal cleverness, but she at least spares us the yard-of-text replies that many posters (and I can be guilty of this too) foist on us. Despite her assumed profession, she seems like the least deserving of the title lawyer cunt.
Her coy smart alecky responses are at worst annoyingly coy and smart alecky at best endearing. In any case, our (caustic) blog host seems to enjoy them (although never coy he may be a smart aleck).
[editor: yeah, sd does not deserve the richly layered lawyer cunt appellation. she may be annoyingly diffident and spitefully prudish, but a raging fembot lawyer cunt she is not.]
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and here I thought the lady was going to make sense, but nooooo
http://shine.yahoo.com/event/loveyourbody/women-hit-their-beauty-peak-at-age-31-survey-says-now-wait-until-you-read-who-got-this-survey-started-2073220/
scary world!!
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I reply to a query, take the day off and look what happens. You kids.
[editor: here comes the mischief!]
@Mr Editor (whoever you are)
I am not fat.
[i knew it.]
I didn’t actually pick up on the distinction between the jaw & the chin, it’s good to meet a man who pays attention to detail. My chin is small and gently rounded. In fact, your views on chins and jaws are your main redeeming feature as far as I am concerned.
[getting better every day…]
A combination of red hair and alabaster skin is lovely, just look at Anouk, but I am currently a dark blonde shade and will be staying that way for the foreseeable future. It’s an awful shame we did not meet when I was 22 and an auburnette.
[i’ll let you in on a secret. hair color isn’t that important to men.]
I welcome your views on face-framing silky straight hair though. It is good to meet a man with taste. So many Irishmen prefer the manjaw for some reason.
[i dated a 100% irish-american tomboy once. she had the prominent chin, tho her jaw was thankfully demure. she had a body carved from marble. not a dimple to be found anywhere. alas, the lass and her sculpted ass went aghast when another sassy tigress intervened on behalf of my mast.]
I was only joking about the legs. No alpha male could possibly be seen to agree to any request by a female on his blog. It would be fun, though, to rate your legs (or indeed any other body part you might feel inclined to publish a photo of, with or without garnishing) on a 1-10 scale & then discuss whether or not this reflected perceptions of male beauty since antiquity (obviously referencing relevant scientific reports).
[my legs are heavenly pillars of strength, oak trees of solidity, obelisks of unbending eternity. and a bit hairy too.]
@Tim
I’m not great on simple declarative sentences when in a good mood and feeling playful. Also, I was directing my comments to the Editor, who is not known for his simple declarative sentences. When in Rome, do as Rome does.
The Caustic Soda reference was a reference to our blog host’s previous description of himself as caustic rather than cranky. I added it in because I had to call him something, calling him by his official title sent my comment to moderation.
[that wasn’t what modded you. to be frank, i don’t know why certain posters get modded. wordpress identifies some of you as spam, like doug1, for no particular reason. but i do have a list of notable trolls i’ve banned in the recent months, and i have to say the comment quality has improved remarkably.]
He was a little bit like soda last night, all bubbly and sparkly, so I thought it was appropriate.
Carla has a similar sort of figure to me (minus the lovely long legs), but I am not as beautiful and would hate to get people’s expectations up & then disappoint (not that any of you will ever see me, but I prefer to be more or less honest).
I actually prefer discussion to argument, and am not trying to manipulate or be cunning, simply have a fun discussion with interesting people. The gravatar represents the playful aspect of my personality, which is usually present, even in work mode. I don’t have a briefcase, but I do have a laptop case, that is the closest I get to it. Hairspray doesn’t really work on my hair unfortunately, and power suits just make me look like a kid dressed up.
[there’s nothing sexy about the female power suit.]
I’m sorry you think I’m a cunt, and I’m really not sure what I’ve done to make you feel this way (I made the same comment when you callled me this on my blog). I can’t help my job, I’m afraid, I don’t have the luxury of anyone to support me and I have to earn my own way. I try to act fairly and ethically to the best of my ability, I don’t overcharge & I really do try to treat people with consideration at work & elsewhere. I’m not sure what else I can do.
@Anouk
I’ve given Mr Editor a comparator in terms of my figure (he did ask me in terms of two comparators, neither of which were correct and I gave him a third which was the closest I could think of), I think this is a fair enough response to his question and is not beating round the bush. It’s quite enough information imo. At my advanced age no further detail is necessary.
I hope this sorts things out.
[carla bruni has a nice figure. i wonder if she’d fall under thursday’s category of bad girl/girly girl?]
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@Lily
This “natural alpha” who is good looking, successful, a noble/kind…
and wants to marry a mid 30’s “mature” woman… * snicker *hehehe
He is No alpha… pleeease.
You need to pinch yourself and wake up. 😉
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Silver Fox said:
“The USA is still prudish, and cant handle 10-15 yr younger wives by older men.”
[insert applause icon]
Lily said:
“I felt insecure then and now guys are trying to make 30 something women insecure too.”
So stating the obvious about women and how age affects them is “trying to make 30 something women insecure”?
Your attitude is best summed up below:
‘We women feel insecure and it’s the fault of you men!!!’
God knows you women never compete with each other, do catty things to each other or make biting, sarcastic comments to put down the other woman and make her feel insecure, no it’s just us men that make you feel insecure. You women treat each other great 100% of the time!
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“[why does what i write here bother you?]”
Er…earth to Dark Lord…because the world doesn’t revolve around me? I think a lot about different people in the world.
This includes young women and I think they have enough to deal with already. Cosmo bothers me too.
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@Default
she at least spares us the yard-of-text replies that many posters (and I can be guilty of this too) foist on us
Unfortunately I didn’t see your comment before I sent the response above.
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@Thinking Man
“Your attitude is best summed up below:
‘We women feel insecure and it’s the fault of you men!’”
Hah hah, not at all.
I have no time for bitchy women either. It’s actually quite hard when you’re young and relatively good looking to have good female friends.
I would not wish to be 21 again. At all.
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”””Silver Fox
Epic fail, again.
”””’
Wrong
Have you not been looking with your eyes at the world around you. You were supposed to have been saving money from all that work to get the fuck out of dodge. So you were not on the titanic when it sank. Note the constant stream of laws passed.
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Silver Fox does need to check his facts. Things are worse than they appear.
18.4 percent of men between the ages of 40 and 44 have never married as of 2009.
34.9 percent of men between the ages of 30 and 34 have never married as of 2009.
The numbers for both age groups are rising.
http://www.census.gov/population/www/socdemo/hh-fam/cps2009.html
That is a lot higher than 10%.
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@Doyourownresearch
Sure, you can think what you want. Perhaps you don’t know what a natural alpha is. Sure, there are men like him who would do a second marriage with someone 20 years younger but these aren’t the majority by any means.
By the way, I’m neither mid 30s (quite yet) nor mature (by a long way).
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@sdaedalus
[editor: yeah, sd does not deserve the richly layered lawyer cunt appellation. she may be annoyingly diffident and spitefully prudish, but a raging fembot lawyer cunt she is not.]
Thank you. In fact, I am so touched that I momentarily considered taking a nude photo to send to you, before realising that in fact at my advanced age prudishness & diffidence is not spiteful but a kindness to others. It is a shame that I have no nude photos of myself when 22 and a redhead.
I also thought of sending Default the White Knight a nude photo but felt this might be annoyingly coy.
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“women don’t need to agree with men on what beauty is; they just need to know how to get him hard.”
Come off it, it’s not exactly hard to get a man hard.
[editor: it’s not hard for attractive women who haven’t aged or gotten fat or have some other uglifying deformity. unfortunately, 60+% of american women are clinically obese, thus making it very difficult for them to induce boners. and all they had to do was stop overeating. too bad they can’t even manage that.]
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Okay Lily, I couldn’t tell where you were coming from on that post which I responded to. Best.
: )
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Tim is an idiot if he can’t make a point without resorting to such uncouth name calling. If our esteemed Irish lady bothers him so much, can he not simply ignore her posts? And what is the male equivalent of being gracious?
Aww, these guys who are so disappointed that women aren’t what they put on pedestals as young boys. They are even worse than the bitter females who expected men to be knights in shining armour.
Oh well, despite some of the posts on here, I still love boys/men 🙂
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@Tim- WTF? why the continued abuse? What does that achieve, other than make you look like an asshole? If someone annoys you, just skip over those comments rather than attack. Live and let live.
@ed.- SD is actually not prudish. Her writing style and blog persona may make it appear that way, and/or constrain her in her online flirting with you. But she definitely has a minx side to her. Right, my love?
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How long will it take her to destroy a mans life after she gets married and pops out some kids?
Or what kind of threats is she gonna be giving the husband after that wedding and the kids pop out.
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@Dark Lord
“it’s not hard for attractive women who haven’t aged or gotten fat or have some other uglifying deformity. unfortunately, 60+% of american women are clinically obese, thus making it very difficult for them to induce boners.”
Wow, that explains some of the hate I read here.
[editor: it’s not hate, it’s sadism. and contempt.]
Maybe Rum is right and I should get over the pond. Maybe sdaedalus and I should do a roadtrip?
[is that what you ladies are calling scissoring these days?]
Though, not sure I could handle it. Those hot American men in the Gillette ads make me blush, I have to change the channel.
[do not attempt to adjust the picture. we control the blushing vertical.]
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@ThinkingMan
No probs 🙂
@sdaedalus
I am afraid I’m going to disagree with the Dark Lord on the power suits. Just combine it with glasses, your hair up and some stockings. Or is that sexy librarian. Alas, I always get confused. I have my eye on a naughty nurse outfit, if you have Agent Provocateur in Ireland, check it out.
[editor: power suits are one of those things women think men like, or should like, because women love power suits on men. but man, there is nothing more unattractive on a woman than a gray shoulder padded power suit. it’s right up there with sweats and flip flops.]
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lol silver fox doesn’t get it then who will he he he
Dam dude.
Oh well like I said yesterday you cannot save those who don’t wish to be saved and those who are gonna be saved will save themselves one way or the other.
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Maurice
@ed.- SD is actually not prudish. Her writing style and blog persona may make it appear that way, and/or constrain her in her online flirting with you. But she definitely has a minx side to her. Right, my love?
If I were prudish, would I read and (mostly) enjoy this blog?
The difficulty is, that a lot of guys round here operate on the presumption that all woman are sluts until presumed otherwise. I am not making any criticism of them for this, but I feel I have to tread carefully until I know someone well enough to trust that they will not make incorrect assumptions about me just because I like discussing the minutae of male-female relationships.
I am still a little scared of the Editor, probably with good reason, & comments like Tim’s do not exactly encourage me to be more forthcoming. Actually, I feel I have probably provided too much information, but, hell, if one can’t be honest anonymously on the internet, when can one be honest?
I am a bit diffident, but this is not my own blog, and I am new to the sphere, I would prefer to err on the side of diffidence rather than be seen to be throwing my weight about. Diffidence is not the same as not thinking for myself though, I just don’t necessarily feel that I have to share these thoughts with the world.
Anyway, from reading this blog, it would appear that being diffident and prudish is not the worst thing for a woman to be.
Now I will shut up.
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@Dark Lord
I just googled scissoring…R…O…F….L…you do expand my knowledge of the world.
Re power suits, personally, I think it’s what they look like and how they’re worn..but what do I know.
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Hmmmm no ladies shaming anouk. check
No men shaming anouk except me. check
Just everyone shaming that darn man who did some crazy shit like call a chick a cunt.
Well darn shit on a fiddle.
And we wonder why it will only get worse for men in us.
You don’t have to wonder anymore.
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Who on earth wears sweats (I assume that’s like tracksuit bottoms) with flip flops?
Sweats = wear with trainers to the gym
Flip flops = wear with bikinis on holiday. Or denim mini skirts in the summer.
Looks like we have to come over just to do fashion police.
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Greatbooksformen,
LZOLZLZLZLLZLZZZZLLL for the quotation
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@SD- my love: no need to shut up. We like minxes around here (right, ed.?), especially those with wit, erudition and charm to match their looks. (I adore you.)
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Women over 30 start getting that facial fuzz. Even if she’s taken care of herself in the gym, the facial fuzz is an instant boner killer.
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See… you ladies don’t seem to realize…
you are the most privileged “ladies” in the world(western) since birth.
Supply and demand baby. Let it sink in, like ink on paper.
We have the fattest women around compared to other non-western countries.
So…imagine tossing these fat women in the non-western countries…
they would starve in the streets, supply and demand ladies.
This is why over 30y/o American ladies can’t stand competition.
I’m sure some people know about IMBRA.
Trying to stifle are supply. Don’t hate the competition.
I have traveled to many non-western countries and the
feminine women there… laugh at American women.
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@gunslingergregi
I can only speak for myself.
“Hmmmm no ladies shaming anouk. check”
Anouk has never said anything to upset me. I don’t always agree with what she says but she is never offensive or personally insulting.
“Just everyone shaming that darn man who did some crazy shit like call a chick a cunt…And we wonder why it will only get worse for men in us.”
It was not just bad form but completely unnecessary. Again, I don’t always agree with what sdaedalus says, but she does not deserve that.
I would say that on the whole, the women who post on here are fairly gracious.
No doubt, some would call that female solidarity and I’m a newbie here. But my feeling is the people who would dismiss it as female solidarity would be the exactly the same people if I criticised a woman poster to say oh look at the women turning on each other, lol.
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“[if you knew your respect didn’t mean anything to me, why did you bother trying to shame me with it?”
–shame you? How would that be possible? I never do get this throwing around of the term “shaming”.
[editor: your backpedal is noted.]
Hell, some dude who frequents here wrote an entire post all about me on his blog by pulling one sentence of mine apart and called me a shamer, even though in real life him and I would probably get along great!
Saying I lost some respect for someone who screams that the truth be had, told, and known by all, especially women, I was disappointed that you would have to mask yourself in the way you do.
[the truth is the same regardless of the anonymity of the teller. i could be a fat shlub living in mom’s basement sucking down cheetos and nothing i say about the reality of the dating market or the differences between men and women would be any less true.]
If you have to do this to protect your identity, that’s a real shame considering you push so much for truth, (a subject I hold near and dear to my own values, hence my going through hell to protect my own truth on this very blog not too long ago), whether truth brings glory or shame, I will own it.
[i, and for now the other proprietors here, have no interest in “owning” the truth according to anyone’s definition of it. the truth is owned by no one. it is alive and real no matter the anonymity, ethics, or sadism of the messenger.]
p.s.-sorry for the use of the word “disapointed”…I know it may read as a “shaming” word/tactic. There’s a hidden compliment in there, people for whom I lack all respect for can’t disappoint me.
SD-
“A combination of red hair and alabaster skin is lovely, just look at Anouk,”
–thank you my sweet. I am a natural, straight-haired auburn/redhead. But the skin can be alabaster or deeply tanned…one of the few pluses to my mixed blood. On the down side, I have freckles.
I always pictured you as A Michelle Pfeiffer look-a-like. Or maybe a Sandra Dee? Both of whom are quite pretty. 🙂
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“gray shoulder padded power suit.”
Is DC stuck in 1987? I think the last time I saw one of those was in Working Girl.
[editor: and good riddance! unfortunately, there are still a few mechanofems who strut around in men’s suits.]
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gunslingergregi–
“No men shaming anouk except me. check”
–huh? why? explain please. What the hell did I do?
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But you cut it off lily I was referring to the “men” who were also shaming another man but refused to shame another woman that did far worse than the man did she did a veiled personal threat against our hose about knowing people he knows.
So yea nobody came to defense. No white nights no manginas.
Just silence.
So yea I can only imagine what it must be like in divorce court with a crying woman and all the men just feeling so bad for her and wanting to be protective.
Guys just don’t have a chance do they if they don’t have a chance here then they don’t have a chance anywhere.
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Maybe you were just joking?
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@gunslingergregi
I can’t comment on a situation that happened before I started reading/posting.
Regardless, Tim’s behaviour was uncalled for and he deserves to be called out for it.
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@Mike
I’v missed out on this facial fuzz thing. I wonder if it’s hormonal?
Still I imagine a lot easier to get rid of than those grey hairs guys get in their chests. What is that about? I’m not getting grey hair in my legs or elsewhere. I wonder when that kicks in.
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Or yea it probably is better to ignore the wierd shit going on and bury head in sand I am trying to learn how to do it for some things but dang.
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@Lily
–the facial hair fuzz is definitely hormonal. It’s testosterone rearing its head again in larger amounts. Older women will often produce more testosterone for a variety of reasons. Some think it’s evolutionary–as a woman’s ovarian reserves begin to rapidly diminish around age 30, the body responds to decreased fertility by ramping up sex drive–more opportunity to get knocked up. This is evopsych at its finest, explaining the cougar aggressiveness in biological terms.
Even younger girls can get the upper lip fuzz, the femustache.
A common cause of the femustache for younger girls is Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome. Chicks with PCOS get little nodules in their ovaries that act more like nutsacks in that they produce a fair bit of testosterone.
A throwback to Roissy’s post on females with high testosterone, girls with PCOS often have very male-like sex drives.. but PCOS may render them infertile. Freda Kahlo had quite the femustache and is rumored to have fucked like a man.
Either way, I’m in agreement with Mike–the facial fuzz thing is a definite turnoff.
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I think Sniper is at least 27. Eyes. Aging eyes.
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also, one can own their own truth. I have always been possessive of my own truth and despise those who try to twist it for their own use.
[editor: “possessive of my own truth and despise those who try to twist it for their own use” = “don’t tell me things i don’t want to hear.”]
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@Sniper et all,
It astounds me how women continue to tell men how attractive women are.
Get some pictures of (otherwise attractive) women at different ages. Try 18-23, 23-28, and 29-34.
Then try 35-40
and 40+
Ask men you know to rate the attractiveness (physical) of the women. Don’t tell them how old the women are.
Do this over again about 10 x.
Look at the pattern.
Age numbers don’t matter. What matters is not being able to cheat the Penis: Men have hard sensors for youth.
Not just some men. All men. Everywhere.
We’re wired that way.
1) Shape.
2) Youth.
All the denial. All the hopeless denial.
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@Andrew S.
It would be great if semi-decent looking women over the age of thirty would be willing to fuck me. Of course what I would really love is if young hot bodied women aged 18-27 would want to fuck.
And It’s not even close. Anyone who says different is either trying to score with these rapidly aging former beauties, or happens to be one of these former beauties, but is now “experienced.”
As a beta we take what we can get, so we probably tend to look at women in their 30′s and 40′s as more attractive than they are. But given the choice it’s a no brainer.
Andrew says it all: men pretend women over 30 are more attractive than they are, because they can’t imagine being able to get a 23 year-old hottie.
And men know when a woman is faking it. The skin, the eyes, tell.
I *personally* find many women 28-35 quite attractive – but I’m very selective and I actually do value things like conversation and whatnot.
But women over their mid-20’s are just physically less attractive, as a rule.
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You guys should read for comprehension lol
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I demand the next post. These woman are proven deluded.
Next.
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“Gorbachev
I think Sniper is at least 27. Eyes. Aging eyes.”
37 at least as chix always always post pics that are 5+ years old.
the rule of 5: when you ask a chick how old she is add 5. when you ask a chick how many cocks she’s sucked multiply by 5. when you ask a chick to marry you divide your salary/assetts by 5. when you ask a chcik how hot she thinks she is subtract 5, as she is adding 5 because she counts the 5 secretive tapings of asscocking sessions as each adding a point lozlzozlzozlzlz as if a fiat-funded douchebag sho rhymes with goldman sax who is published financed promotomted by the necons ginas fucked her in the ass, she must be hot, hot , hot! lololozlzozlzlzl that is how womenz think.
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In Sniper’s strange little world, it’s important for her to believe that you can appear as young as you were for as long as possible. She’ll continue believing this no matter how absurd or disturbing this seems to people (especially men) around her – as she ages.
To anyone living in this kind of self-identifying fantasy world, actual facts cease to have any relevance.
Lots of people live in fantasy worlds. There’s no end of them.
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lozlzozllz
hey sniper and otehrs lolzozlzlzlz
riddle me this please pelase pelase
why is it
that
women
finance
publish
promote
men who tape butthex withoutthe girlths contehnt and lie about tehir height?
why do woemnz like priscilla painton of simon and schuster adn charlotte allen at the weekly standadth finance publish [promote and repeat the lies of tucker max who rhymes with goldman sax.
laides ladiesplease anser
why why why?
what drives you do to this?
who is fiancning you to do this?
lzozlzl
tell me please!!! pthanks!!
hey ms. mccfartle.
riddle me this batwoman. why does womenz powerful woemnz promote douchebaggery and secretivetapers of butthex without a girlths conthent and wire them hundreds of thosuands of fioat bernanke cash so they can pick up sknakskkssk? lzozlzl
community.feministing.com/2009/09/why-are-female-executives-publ.html
Why are Female Executives Publishing Tucker Max?
Saw this floating around. good question!
MCCOY MOUNTAIN
ART, FILM, & LITERATURE GUILD OF AMERICA
Ms. Priscilla Painton
Simon & Schuster Editor in Chief
RE: ASSHOLES FINISH FIRST, Secretive Tapings of Anal Sex without The Girl’s Consent, Corporate Douchebaggery, and the Epic Failure of I Hope They Serve Beer in Hell
Despite the fact that teenagers nationwide are going to hear gem pick-up lines like “get away from me or I’m going to carve another fuck hole in your torso”, what truly crowns this film as an epic fail is its apologetic attempt to masquerade gratuity as an Apatovian bromance. http://www.thelmagazine.com/newyork/we-hope-you-can-still-get-alcohol-poisoning-in-hell/Content?oid=1291260
“Little Italy is fighting back against Tucker Max ‘s controversial ad campaign . Yeah, that poster on the right says, “Blind Girls Never See You Coming.” Va fan culo, indeed.”gothamist.com/2009/09/21/tucker_max.php
Dear Ms. Painton,
I and my colleagues in the ART, FILM & LITERATURE GUILD have a couple questions regarding the direction you are taking Simon and Schuster in. Why are you guys/gals hating on art, literature, culture and America? It was recently brought to our attention that you are intent on publishing Tucker Max’s ASSHOLES FINISH FIRST, and that your company actually gave him a $300,000 advance for his fart art. As the editor in chief of Simon and Schuster, owned the CBS corporation, do you truly believe Assholes Finish First? It is oft said that girls like “bad boys.” Does Tucker’s fart art douchebag wit titillate and excite you? Is that why you are publishing and profiting from it? Did you laugh during Tucker’s recent film flop when what’s-his-name stated that overweight women aren’t real people? Do you smile smugly when your billion-dollar corporation profits from douchebaggery?
gawker.com/5363233/tucker-maxs-campaign-of-hate-against-chicagos-transit-system “The ads were poetic ditties of white text on a black background . Like: “Blind girls never see you coming” and “Strippers Will Not Tolerate Disrespect (Just Kidding).””
“Over at the Washington, D.C., premiere, Max’s video minion ridicules both Vietnamese and African-American women, the former for being employed as a pedicurist, and the latter for having a name he finds funny.”
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/sexist/2009/09/10/spot-your-local-tucker-max-douchebag/
Do you enjoy profiting from making fun of Asians and overweight women? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1220628/board/thread/148314040
tuckermaxdoucebag.blogspot.com
tuckermaxlies.blogspot.com
Does this make you laugh Ms. Painton? It is not too late to choose the right direction for Simon and Schuster and CBS and walk away from publishing Assholes Finish First . At most it will bring in a few pennies, which will lead everyone to conclude that you and CBS aren’t in it for the money, but just the debauchery and destruction of the culture. As Tucker Max pointed out, the feminist movement empowered women and gave them the right to choose the art they affiliated with and promote. So now, with all the power in your hands, what will you chose on behalf of women all over the world? Please do us proud and choose the right thing.
“The ad campaign for the new flick “I Hope They Serve Beer in Hell” includes slogans like “Deaf Girls Can’t Hear You Coming” and “Strippers Will Not Tolerate Disrespect (Just Kidding!).””
–http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local-beat/New-Movie-Ads-Take-Offensive-to-the-Max-59695522.html
Why is corporate America, under your direction Ms. Painton, forcing epic “Richard Kelly” fail fart art and film on the common public? Do you also find secretive tapings of anal sex without the girl’s consent to be entertaining and titillating art?
gawker.com/5363233/tucker-maxs-campaign-of-hate-against-chicagos-transit-system
Let’s talk for a sec about something Tucker glamorizes and pretends is funny in his ‘book’: filming a naked women in his bedroom without her consent. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that while he’s doing this he is coaxing the girl to have anal sex with him, an exploitative act that a guy like him probably especially enjoys.
–http://www.bitchmagazine.org/post/douchebag-decree-marketing-tucker-max
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/sexist/2009/09/11/the-rapiest-quotes-from-i-hope-they-serve-beer-in-hell/
“OK, we can try anal sex , but I want it to be special and romantic. …. process: I was going to fuck her in the butt and film it without her consent ,” — http://www.tuckermax.com/archives/entries/date/tucker_tries_buttsex_hilarity_does_not_ensue.phtml
Do you and the CBS Corporation find this entertaining? As you know, sodomy is a sin in the Old Testament as is sex out of wedlock and fornication. What is your motivation in working with those who promote and profit from secretive tapings of anal sex?
Do you find such “literature” and “art” to be representative of Simon and Schuster and CBS?
“In one of his most notorious pieces, he convinces a girl to have anal sex and tapes it without her consent.” — http://www.salon.com/mwt/broadsheet/feature/2009/09/08/tucker_max/
Despite the fact that teenagers nationwide are going to hear gem pick-up lines like “get away from me or I’m going to carve another fuck hole in your torso”, what truly crowns this film as an epic fail is its apologetic attempt to masquerade gratuity as an Apatovian bromance. http://www.thelmagazine.com/newyork/we-hope-you-can-still-get-alcohol-poisoning-in-hell/Content?oid=1291260
Ms. Painton–do you find that entertaining? Is it good literature? Do you consider demeaning stories about having sex with midgets good literature? Do you consider it good business to make fun of Asians, overweight women, and minorities so as to bolster your bottom line?
What is driving you to publish Assholes Finish First ? What are your motivations? Money? America does not want Tucker Max, as demonstrated this past weekend at the boxoffice. Do you find these signs to be entertaining/a good CBS investment?
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/sexist/2009/09/15/tucker-max-fans-fight-rape-with-racism/
Is Tucker Max’s fan base the group that Simon & Schuster is seeking to serve under your leadership?
washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/sexist/2009/09/14/tucker-max-too-sexist-for-ad-space/
It seems that America believes otherwise as Richard Kelly and Tucker Max’s I Hope They Serve Beer in Hell has proven to be a colossal artistic and financial failure.
“Not faring so well, however, was the Tucker Max adaptation I Hope They Serve Beer in Hell, which took in $369,000 from 120 theaters with a well-below-average $3,075 per-screen average.” –movieweb.com/news/NEdXykfeBDXwhe
So Priscilla, please tell us about your douchetastic love affair with Tucker Max and his fart art. Does it really titillate you as a woman and feminist? Say it isn’t so! Is this good Simon and Schuster/CBS branding? Why did your massive billion-dollar corporation reward Tucker with a $300,000 advance?
“Little Italy is fighting back against Tucker Max ‘s controversial ad campaign . Yeah, that poster on the right says, “Blind Girls Never See You Coming.” Va fan culo, indeed.” gothamist.com/2009/09/21/tucker_max.php
Does CBS and Simon & Schuster approve of registering fake email accounts to promote stories regarding secretive tapings of anal sex without the girl’s consent?
” The lack of traditional plugs forced Max to promote his web site and book via the internet. He would create fake e-mail accounts and then bombard entertainment sites and news aggregators with links to his material.” — theregister.co.uk/2007/03/11/tucker_max_sxsw/
For this, your billion-dollar corporation rewarded Tucker with a $300,000 advance.
“Max may have to concentrate on his agent style business moving forward because he’s running out of material. He’s received a $300,000 advance for a second version of his drunken, sexual exploits – a tome that will contain the stories not ripe enough for the first cut.” — theregister.co.uk/2007/03/11/tucker_max_sxsw/
Are you proud of Simon & Schuster and your corporation? Funding and encouraging hype, failure, douchebaggery, debauchery, lies, secretive tapings of anal sex without the girl’s consent, and making fun of Asians, overweight women, and minorities. Is that what attracts you to Tucker Max, or is it the epic artistic and financial failure of his film?
rottentomatoes.com/m/i_hope_they_serve_beer_in_hell/
“I Hope They Serve Beer in Hell fails in its attempts at raunchy humor, and Tucker Max comes across so unlikable and outrageous that the film’s inevitable story arc feels forced.”
It is not too late to choose the right direction for Simon and Schuster and walk away from publishing Assholes Finish First .
Best,
McCoy Mountain & The ART, FILM & LITERATURE GUILD
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1220628/board/thread/148314040
Will Priscilla Painton at Simon & Shuster still Publish *beep* Finish First?
the title makes no sense. *beep* might finish first in some silly women’s eyes, but they epic fail in reality, as demonstrated by tucker’s epic fart art film fail, which priscilla painton is pretendning not to notice.
What’s up with women these days?
It seems the more they run things, the more they try to force douchebag fart art on everyone:
Former ‘Time’ Exec. Relieves Venerable Editor Mayhew At Simon & Schuster
gawker.com/5002333/former-time-exec-relieves-venerable-editor-mayhew-at-simon–schuster
Anywho, does Priscilla Painton at Simon & Shuster have a personal vendetta against asians, minorities, overweight women, and little people?
Does she think tucker’s ads are cute and humorous?
http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local-beat/New-Movie-Ads-Take-Offensive-to-the-Max-59695522.html
Does she get off on this?
“The ad campaign for the new flick “I Hope They Serve Beer in Hell” includes slogans like “Deaf Girls Can’t Hear You Coming” and “Strippers Will Not Tolerate Disrespect (Just Kidding!).”
Is that supposed to be funny?” http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local-beat/New-Movie-Ads-Take-Offensive-to-the-Max-59695522.html
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/sexist/2009/09/10/spot-your-local-tucker-max-douchebag/
Is this the new face and culture of simon and schuster?
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/sexist/2009/09/15/tucker-max-fans-fight-rape-with-racism/
Does Priscilla Painton at Simon and Schuster giggle at secretive tapings of anal sex without the girl’s consent and also this:
http://www.penguinblogs.ca/davidson/archives/00000079.html
tuckermaxlies.blogspot.com/2008/08/sillylittlefreak.html
http://www.tuckermax.com/archives/entries/date/the_absinthe_donuts_story.phtml
“11:17: The girl starts saying something about what a horrible person I am. I stare at her, but I am not listening. I am preparing myself. I am B-Rabbit. This is the final battle rap. I will win the hostile crowd:
[I interrupt the fat girl] “Ward, I think you’re being a little hard on the Beaver, [as I point to each in turn] so is Eddie Haskell, Wally, and Miss Cleaver.”
[To the fat guy with greasy hair in the camo vest] “Look out everyone! It’s the Pillsbury Commando! Hey Chunk, when was the last time you washed your hair? Does it give you more hit points to have that grease helmet? I hate to break the news, but +5 defense only counts in Dungeons and Dragons.”
[To the ugly Asian girl] “Why you no rike me? You want me frip over? You no piss me off! ME FIND YOU IN POCKING ROT!! YOU NO TAKE MING ARIVE!!”
[To the small frail dork–I notice he has a lazy eye] “Dude–Look at me when I’m talking to you–BOTH EYES AT ONCE. Are you really this ugly or are you just playing? EVERYONE, BE CAREFUL, THIS GUY LURKS UNDER THE STAIRS AND TRIES TO LICK YOUR SHOES WHEN YOU PASS BY!”
[To the original fatty, pause for effect] “Why do you do this to yourself? WHY DO YOU DO THIS TO YOURSELF? Look, I’m gonna give you some advice-leave the party, take the geek squad with you, go to Denny’s, order about 10 Grand Slam Breakfasts, and eat your pain away. Won’t be the first time will it?”
11:19: I am finished. The kitchen is quiet, except for Eddie and Rich laughing. The four freaks are completely speechless. Everyone is staring at me. I blurt out, “WHAT? I’m pretty sure it’s what Jesus would’ve done.” Eddie and Rich promptly remove me from the kitchen.”
Is Priscilla Painton publishing tucker’s next book for the love of literature, art, or money?
‘Cause it seems that those who work with tucker generally hate and lose literature, art, and money.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priscilla_Painton
http://www.theladyfinger.com/2009/09/tucker-max-brings-his-misogyny-to-big.html
“What ensues, according the film’s trailer, is alcohol-fueled misogynistic mayhem. Max has sex with several women, including, to his smug satisfaction, a dwarf.”
See? That is the clever banker ruse.
Have women such as Priscilla fund and promote it, while others protest it, enriching the bankers as marriage is destroyed and the state is grown.
http://www.stephenbaskerville.net/
“A Site about the Divorce Regime, Family Court Corruption,
and Government’s War on Fathers”
“The divorce regime is the most totalitarian institution ever to arise in the United States. Its operatives in the family courts and the social service agencies recognize no private sphere of life. “The power of family court judges is almost unlimited,” according to Judge Robert Page of the New Jersey family court. “Social workers are perceived to have nearly unlimited power,” a San Diego Grand Jury concludes. “Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Total immunity [enjoyed by social workers] is absolute power.”
The divorce regime is responsible for much more than “ugly divorces,” “nasty custody battles,” and other clichés. It is the most serious perpetrator of human and constitutional rights violations in America today. Because it strikes the most basic institution of any civilization – the family – the divorce regime is a threat not only to social order but to civil freedom. It is also almost completely unopposed. No political party and no politicians question it. No journalists investigate it in any depth. A few attorneys have spoken out, but they are eventually suspended or disbarred. Some academics have written about it, but they soon stop. No human rights or civil liberties groups challenge it, and some positively support it. Very few “pro-family” lobbies question it. This is because the divorce regime operates through money, political power, and fear.” — http://www.stephenbaskerville.net/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1220628/board/thread/148314040
Have you seen/read END THE FED by Ron Paul? “Everyone must read this book–Congressmen and college students, Democrats and Republicans–all Americans.”
–Vince Vaughn
When you think about it, Tucker Max was the Fed’s ultimate creation–a soulless, debased douchebag:
“My name is Tucker Max, and I am an *beep*
Think about it–Tucker’s motto @ http://tuckermax.com could be the Fed’s motto:
“I get excessively drunk via inflating the currency at inappropriate times, disregard social norms (funding feminism/debauchery & debasement of the family/currency/culture/tucker max(educated at the Fed’s University of Chicago’s School of Economics (school of freakanomics) and Duke scholarship)), indulge every whim/war, ignore the consequences of my actions/bubbles/bailouts, fund idiots and posers and tucker-max-like CEOs, sleep with more women than is safe or reasonable/luring them with fiat currency & a fiat-funded bus, and just generally act like a raging darko/douchebag/dickhead.”
What do you think of Ron Paul’s new book–End the Fed?
http://www.amazon.com/End-Fed-Ron-Paul/dp/0446549193/
Review for End The Fed
“Rarely has a single book not only challenged, but decisively changed my mind. ”
–Arlo Guthrie
“Everyone must read this book–Congressmen and college students, Democrats and Republicans–all Americans.”
–Vince Vaughn
Vince Vaughn is a far, far better actor/director/writer than Tucker Max, so it makes sense that Tucker and his jealous friends at the Fed detest Arlo Guthrie and Vince Vaughan as well as art, film, and literature.
The book has much better reviews and is far-higher ranked than Tucker’s douchey books/film/trailer–Five solid stars!
Why do you donnie darko douchos/cbs haterz hate on art, the Constitution, morality, goodness, sound money, peace, prosperity, love, the family, kindness, and Ron Paul so much?
And like the Fed, tucker privatizes all the profits of his private jet while sharing all the risk with his volunteer employees, who work for free.
“Feminism which espoused “women’s rights” actually has driven femininity underground, torn the sexes asunder, and stripped woman of recognition for being wives and mothers, roles essential to their own fulfillment, to men, and to children and society.” http://www.savethemales.ca/
http://www.amazon.com/Save-Males-Matter-Women-Should/dp/1400065798
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lozlzozlz
i love how the feministing community removed teh link criticizing tucker max and priscilla painton
at the end of the day feminsist women loves docuhebags who films secrrteive taping fo anal without their girlths ocnthent.
epic douchebaggery and feminism are two sides of teh very same coin which isn’t a coin but just a fiat peice of paper now lozlzozlzzll
but sniper nd lily
answer myq uestiosn above?
why why why do womenz like you fund and promote douchebag butthesexers secerteive tapers of butthex iwthout teh gorlths conthent who make fun of owmenz and mionrities? why do you fund/promote this?
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“to protect my own truth ”
“also, one can own their own truth. I have always been possessive of my own truth and despise those who try to twist it for their own use.”
[i, and for now the other proprietors here, have no interest in “owning” the truth according to anyone’s definition of it. the truth is owned by no one. it is alive and real no matter the anonymity, ethics, or sadism of the messenger.]
Now Lily be the judge.
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@greatbooksformen
Why oh why oh why do you think all women would support that?
Why oh why oh why do you keep on giving this Tucker Max free publicity?
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wellllll lilly,
never once have i heard your criticizer priscilla painton or charlotte allen for supporting tucker max. fro publsihing and promoting him and repeating his lies lzozlzollzlzl
how ocme no woman everyewhere has ever spoken out against charlotte allen and prsicilla painton for doing this?
not one.
anywhere.
why is this?
just askin don’t get your panties in a wad on yer lzozllzllzlzllllldustyoldpussylzozlzlzollollllollzl
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sorry for the triple post…I’ll break it up here….
gunslingergregi-
“but refused to shame another woman that did far worse than the man did she did a veiled personal threat against our hose about knowing people he knows”
–for fucks sake, I would never out anyone. Stop the bullshit and relax. Veiled personal threat? There was no threat, I was explaining that my source of information did not come from the internet as suggested by the host. Your stirring up drama where there is none.
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I pretty much agree with Roissy about women’s looks throughout the stages of their lives. I looked the best in college, held up okay throughout my 20’s and early 30’s and at age 35 I am unfortunately starting to show real signs of aging. Although men’s appearance doesn’t decline as fast as ours and it isn’t nearly as important for them, they don’t have the sex drive and the energy that they had when they were younger. That is why an older man (say over 35, especially over 40) can probably easy date or marry a younger woman, but the idea of him being some great lover to multiple women is a joke. Also, I enjoy watching older men try and play a very physical sport. They are really hurting when they get off the field, court or ice rink and are totally useless the following day. Many of them end up injured or in surgery as a result.
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@Roissy
[i’ll let you in on a secret. hair color isn’t that important to men.]
Why do women keep thinking this is so important, I wonder.
The femimedia hard on hair color all the time.
It’s irrelevant to me, personally, though I tend to like darker shades.
When men do double-takes for blondes, usually the blondes are shaped like porn stars. So it’s hard to parse out the individual reasons.
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Damn, the first picture… if the Wicked Witch of the West actually looks better that you, you might have a problem.
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@greatbooksformen
Well, I haven’t taken time to criticise this Charlotte Allen person because neither she nor Tucker Max rank highly in my idea of things that are actually relevant in the world. I am afraid I have no idea who Priscilla Painton is.
I have read Charlotte Allen’s article and scanned Tucker Max’s website (he really should give you some money for this publicity you give him) and that secretive taping story is probably the most atrocious, though the midgets story wasn’t particularly endearing. I did laugh about the one where he is shocked his FB is also seeing other guys (what sort of narcissistic idiot is he to think someone so sleazy would attract a woman who wants a picket fence with him).
That guy comes across as very nasty indeed. I certainly don’t agree with giving him any sort of credence in the world, though hopefully it’s a wake up call to some deluded young women that men aren’t Knights in Shining Armour.
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@name nanka
Thank you very much for the honour, but I’m not sure I’m the best person for this. I agree in one way that absolute truth cannot be owned, but I also think that it’s questionable what the absolute truth is because there are always people involved and people have their own truths.
Re our earlier conversation on boys/girls, I saw your last comment. Sure, but the question was whether was that was the way girls argued or the way they bonded.
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Reading more blogs.
The truth is that many feminists are offended by what it is that attracts men. They’re offended by male sexuality, because it offends their sense of fairness (entitlement) and subtracts from their own power.
But no one hates the beauty of young women more than aging feminists. Ask young women working for older women.
Just had an interesting conversation about that the other day.
Situation: Mid-30’s attractive man. Female boss, 44. Female employee, 25.
Conversation: 25 and 30 talking about politics and the office. Gets around to mean boss. Man says, she’s great, wonderful to work with. 25 says no way: Meanest bitch in the world.
Man says: maybe it’s your personality?
Other woman present (39 years old): You’re all stupid. 25 is young and pretty. Around a handsome 30 year-old man, the 44 year-old is going to be the 25 year-old’s worst enemy all the time.
I give you (25) advice: Avoid 44 like the plague. She’ll destroy you if she can.
6 months later: 25 year-old (after having fling with 30) has contract non-renewed. Turns out 44 had it canceled.
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editor-
“[i, and for now the other proprietors here, have no interest in “owning” the truth according to anyone’s definition of it. the truth is owned by no one. it is alive and real no matter the anonymity, ethics, or sadism of the messenger.]”
–again, I disagree. The truth is relative.
[editor: i heard congolese jump higher because gravity barely exists in their country.]
The ONLY truth that is not relative is death.
[if the truth value of any factual statement were based on the character of the messenger there would not be any civilizational progress.]
If I watch Fox news, I will not receive the truth on politics.
[so fox news delivers NO truth at all? you sure you want to back that assertion?]
If I watch Jon Stewart, I most likely will.
[john stewart is a glib goofball, marginally wittier than rush limbaugh, but cut from the same cloth.]
Fox news is the fat shlub biased loser in the basement, you can be at times, as good as Jon Stewart as a source of truth and information.
[are fat women less desirable than slender women? a yes or no will do.]
It makes all the difference. Spin is spin and it can be dangerously irresponsible.
[and truth is truth. it can also be dangerous, but not in the way you’re thinking.]
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PS 44 year-old was a raging feminist who droned on about how women were supposed to support each other.
30 year-old kept job and suffered not at all. He’s not particularly alpha, but quite handsome and a target for women.
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Evolutionary,
Women’s libido does not ramp up with age. We get less interested in sex as we get older. I have no idea where you got that information. A few of my friends have been complaining to me about getting facial hair, so it must be fairly common. I’m not very hairy so it’s not an issue for me.
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sdaedalus
Well that answer falls into the annoyingly smart alecky not annoyingly coy. Not sending said photo is, however, annoyingly coy.
@gunslingergregi
Oh! Come on. If it were Wendy Schwartz there would have been less “shaming.” In that case, I suspect the result would have been silence, hearty agreement, or piling on. The accusation does not really fit for sdaedalus. The truth shall only set you free it is the truth.
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”[well, since men all chub alike for the same archetypical stimulus, your inability to arouse random men would highly suggest your husband is equally unable to get aroused for you.]”
I guess I was factoring in something a little silly — like love.
[editor: love comes with preconditions. perhaps what you are referring to is guilt-propped commitment.]
I can’t imagine that all men stop having sex with their wives later in life.
[sex frequency drops with years of marriage, particularly post-kids. this is usually more a function of the wife’s waning libido than the husband’s, though i’ve no doubt that the american epidemic of fat and psychopathic wives has deflated many husbands’ sexual marital duties. when husbands have sex with their aging wives, it isn’t proof positive that they still find them attractive, or even lovable. for instance, it could mean:
– the husbands are losers who have no other options
– the husbands are highly religious and wouldn’t think of acquiring a younger hotter mistress
– the husbands are afraid of getting reamed in divorce court, so their wives’ holes are the end game for them
– the husbands aren’t discriminating; any port in a storm
– viagra]
Especially if there is true love and respect there, and both have stayed as healthy and as fit as possible. Maybe I’m crazy, but it seems that true love can be erotic in itself, even sans a young body in ones partner.
”[i was pretty good to her. when i dated her she was a looker, so i put in a bit more effort than i would have with a less attractive girl. but an ex of hers entered the picture, and complications ensued. perhaps the intervening years were a heartache for her, but it wouldn’t have been at my hand.]”
See, when you write things like this, you make us believe you have a heart. And then there will be a subsequent post the next day that will make my eyes bleed.
[predictability is the tingle killer.]
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editor-
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“[editor: your backpedal is noted.]”
–you can’t tell me how I meant something,
[editor: your meaning was clear.]
you can tell me how you took it, but now my own intentions with the word. No backpedaling, just re-clarifying.
“[the truth is the same regardless of the anonymity of the teller. i could be a fat shlub living in mom’s basement sucking down cheetos and nothing i say about the reality of the dating market or the differences between men and women would be any less true.]”
–stop it. It makes all the difference.
[oh rilly? most men prefer slender women to fat women. if a fat, slobby nerd stewing in his juices in his mom’s basement mentions this fact does that make it untrue?]
I completely disagree with this and am shocked you don’t see how the source of information is worth at least 40% of the value of the information itself. Tainted source=tainted information.
[the truth is untaintable by the source. but liars often have psychological reasons for believing what they do, and i relish scratching at their thin skins to get at the underlying mechanisms that might explain their adherence to sloppy shibboleths. for instance, it doesn’t surprise me at all when an aging, haggard cougar comes on here claiming her choice in men is as good as it was when she was younger and hotter.]
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Randall Parker,
”Are the women that high status men date higher than average in attractiveness? Yes or no. It is not a matter of opinion that the older a woman gets the more natural beauty she has to have to remain attractive to men.
High status men are going to impose higher standards on which 35 year olds they’ll date than the standards they’ll impose on 20 year olds. The 35 year old has to have more beauty to compensate for the aging. The 35 year old has to look young for her age too.”
I just now saw this comment. I stand by my observation that high status men don’t always choose the youngest, nor the most beautiful of their choices. Some examples of celebrities would include Justin Timberlake, for example. Why did he date Cameron Diaz for so long? She was older, and while cute and everything, I wouldn’t categorize her as beautiful. Then there is Mel Gibson/Oksana tragedy. She’s at least 40 and not all that pretty. Out of ALL the women in the world, he chose her (regretfully). These women are certainly not ugly, but they’re not the best that’s out there regarding looks, in my opinion.
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@Gorbachev
Your story does not surprise me. Again, I would not wish to be 21 again.
@Laura
With the greatest possible respect, women do get more horny with age. At least in their thirties, most likely a fertility thing just like women in their thirties who get pregnant are more likely to have twins as their bodies release more eggs to try and maximise opportunities for conception. But I’d guess it does down later.
The hair and hormones makes sense. And it is a common side effect of PCOS so impacts younger women too.
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Just so it’s said, I tried to post a comment about forty times due to it being stuck, chopping it up some. My apologies once they all pop up. So much for free speech.
Lily/name-
There is no such thing as absolute truth. That’s why I have a hard time with folks who push God down my throat. None of us will know anything for sure until we die. And then we won’t even be able to process what we find out because we’ll be dead.
Randall-
Just seeing your comment now. I’m not sure what you posted what you did for me because I agree with all that you say and wasn’t arguing against anything, just illustrating observations. I didn’t argue for the exceptions, so again, I don’t see what your point to me specifically was.
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I have heard that women in their 30’s are more likely to have twins. I just find that I am much less interested in sex than I used to be. It’s annoying to me when some men try to make it like older women are oversexed and desperate. Let us have some dignity.
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Laura,
I’m wondering if decreased libido is more common in women who have children, and due to being tired? I know, personally, I feel more positively toward sex the older I get. I had crushes and such when I was younger, but I didn’t feel truly sexual. But then again, I don’t have children, which affords me more free time and maybe more energy. Just speculating again here.
Lily,
Regarding higher drive with age, I tend to agree.
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“Sure, but the question was whether was that was the way girls argued or the way they bonded.”
ooh is there a difference? ahem my boyish perspective on things.
“The ONLY truth that is not relative is death. ”
lmao death is relative to the living, it’s not a truth at all.
“It’s annoying to me when some men try to make it like older women are oversexed and desperate. Let us have some dignity.”
no dignity for you!!
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@Laura
Maybe you’re lucky and have had your fill of sex because you’ve had so much? Lol. There is scientific evidence to women’s libido increasing as they get older to support that old urban myth of women hitting their sexual prime at 35.
Certainly, I’m feeling much more sexual than I ever did when I was younger, though I haven’t had sex for 2 years so maybe it’s just a build up lol. I’m looking forward to a *lot* of sex with my next partner 😉 Who knows, I may even get some twins out of it lol.
I’m off for the night, the Player has seemingly moved in with me so time for a DVD and cuddles. Have a good evening 🙂
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Lily writes: @greatbooksformen
Well, I haven’t taken time to criticise this Charlotte Allen person because neither she nor Tucker Max rank highly in my idea of things that are actually relevant in the world (lozlzol typical owman lily is will never speak out agianst immoral acts unless they happen to cut into her material welath lzozlzozl). I am afraid I have no idea who Priscilla Painton is. (she’s thje editor in chief of simon and schuster lzozlzozo)
I have read Charlotte Allen’s article and scanned Tucker Max’s website (he really should give you some money for this publicity you give him) (LOZLZZOOZZOZLZL so even though you don’t think they are relevant you read them lzozlzozl and now you are going up my ass accusing me of giving him publicity when never in a million years would your crictizice prisicalla painton of simon and schuster for wiring him hundreds of thousands of dollars for butthexing and secrtriev tapeings of butthex iwthout teh girlths contehnt because as an americam woman bernakified american woman lzozlzozl always alwyas always must seek to destroy that which exatleth and exalt that which destoryeth zlozlzoo they trianed you well lzozlzllooll and by your logic, all critics of every evil/suckage should be paid for speaking out against evil/suckage because they are promoting it; so it is that in a woman’s world when Moses said “thou shalt not steal” he was pormoting theives they titeer titter and ignore moses and wait for a butthexer secretiev taper of butthex to tingle their gina and the owmenz advance him hundreds of thosuands of bernanke follarz lzozlzozlzozlzlzl) and that secretive taping story is probably the most atrocious, though the midgets story wasn’t particularly endearing. I did laugh about the one where he is shocked his FB is also seeing other guys (what sort of narcissistic idiot is he to think someone so sleazy would attract a woman who wants a picket fence with him).
Lily writes, “That guy comes across as very nasty indeed. I certainly don’t agree with giving him any sort of credence in the world, though hopefully it’s a wake up call to some deluded young women that men aren’t Knights in Shining Armour.”
so why is it Lily, lzozlzl, aghian I ask lzozlzolz, that although you say, “That guy comes across as very nasty indeed.,” why is it that you,. nor any other owman, ever critizcize the powerful woemn who publish, fund, and promote tucker max? why do you never stick up for the good and true and beuatiful? lzolzozllzlzlzlllzlzozzlzlzl
so why is it Lily, lzozlzl, aghian I ask lzozlzolz, that although you say, “That guy comes across as very nasty indeed.,” why is it that you,. nor any other owman, ever critizcize the powerful woemn who publish, fund, and promote tucker max? why do you never stick up for the good and true and beuatiful? lzolzozllzlzlzlllzlzozzlzlzl
it is because, fellas; a women does 2 opposing things uin da fiat system–she fucks and surcks and funds and publsiheds assholes, and then writes legistlatyion against men to seize tehir assetts after she fucked and sucked and published and promotoed an asshole redefining men as assholes. by casting all men as assholes and fucking and suckibng them too, teh berankified womenz can publish promote mopre legislation to tap into the assets of the nice men, while ignorning teh nice men, and fucking sucking publishing promotoing assholes.
hey lilly– hows comes you aren’ married?
also lilly, why do you spend time reading tucker max instead of caring fro a husband or a soldier’s kids who is bleeding 2 death in fiat foreign wars on foreign shoreS?
why why hwy whwywywhwwhwywywywh?
so why is it Lily, lzozlzl, aghian I ask lzozlzolz, that although you say, “That guy comes across as very nasty indeed.,” why is it that you,. nor any other owman, ever critizcize the powerful woemn who publish, fund, and promote tucker max? why do you, nor any otehr woman, ever stick up for the good and true and beuatiful? lzolzozllzlzlzlllzlzozzlzlzl
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Kate, some worthless men who have nothing to offer work very hard to make women who aren’t worthless feel worthless. That’s the way of the herd: crabs in a bucket.
However, that does not make them untruthful when they say that a woman becomes worth less to them as her beauty fades. They are just telling the truth about how they and most people feel. Would you rather they lie?
Take the information on board, and do what you need to do with that in your pocket. It’s like walking through the Matrix. You know that most of the people around you are unconscious of their mortality and don’t love any more than a stray cat loves the seafood restaurant garbage handler who feeds but never pets them.
They think that their being born (both males and females are guilty of this) entitles them to have their asses kissed no matter how they treat others because they are pretty, have money, or some other weak trifle on which they scaffold their egos.
If you accept the truth, you will know better, and be a head and shoulders above the mob. You won’t fritter away opportunities to experience something real by clinging to a fleeting illusion that at the end of your life, will be meaningless compared to what you’ve done to improve your planet and your species.
I’m worthless to most guys posting here, but I make music and art, write poetry, teach, have a daughter who isn’t looking to hop on the carousel, and best of all, I love people.
Hug a homeless guy who you know is okay but just financially struggling or mentally ill in a non violent way today.
That’ll make you even more worthless to the knuckleheads observing you. The question is though, why should you care more about their opinion, than the people whose lives you make a bit less of a hell?
Be worth something. Then the stupid pricks who think you’re worthless can go and think whatever they like, and say whatever they like, and even go fuck themselves or their 50-dudes cum encrusted “10’s” for all you care.
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@Lily
The Player has seemingly moved in with me so time for a DVD and cuddles
Cuddles? Cuddles? Just cuddles? Are you sure he’s a Player? If so, you must have tremendous willpower. I would never be able to resist.
PS: you’re not going to get any twins out of just cuddles.
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hey lilly & sniper lzozlzllz.
at what age were u bernankified?
lzozlzlzl
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@sdaedalus
Oh yes, he is definitely a player. Known throughout the kingdom for it. But just cuddles for us, we discussed it and made a decision for now. We’ll see. I don’t think I can handle his past. Not sure there would be enough tests to cover it. But it’s just nice acting young for a bit. But yes it is getting harder to turf him out of my bed at nights, though mainly because we fight over who has the dog (who is very good at cuddles).
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“so why is it Lily, lzozlzl, aghian I ask lzozlzolz, that although you say, “That guy comes across as very nasty indeed.,” why is it that you,. nor any other owman, ever critizcize the powerful woemn who publish, fund, and promote tucker max?”
As I said, it wasn’t high on my radar. And from having a quick look, seems like his movie bombed anyway, so he’s hardly relevant.
“why do you never stick up for the good and true and beuatiful? lzolzozllzlzlzlllzlzozzlzlzl”
Oh, but I do.
“so why is it Lily, lzozlzl, aghian I ask lzozlzolz, that although you say, “That guy comes across as very nasty indeed.,” why is it that you,. nor any other owman, ever critizcize the powerful woemn who publish, fund, and promote tucker max?”
She doesn’t seem that powerful to me, but I have no time for her supporting him.
“it is because, fellas; a women does 2 opposing things uin da fiat system–she fucks and surcks and funds and publsiheds assholes’
I have never done any of those things.
“and then writes legistlatyion against men to seize tehir assets”
I have never written any legislation.
“by casting all men as assholes”
Despite some of the hate (sorry contempt, word already corrected by the Dark Lord) on this blog, I don’t think all men as assholes. On the whole, I love men.
“to tap into the assets of the nice men”
I have no wish to tap into the assets of nice men. Or any men. If you’ve read my posts in regards to alimony etc, you’d know this.
“hey lilly– hows comes you aren’ married?”
I was, I’m not anymore. That’s all you’re getting in terms of personal info on this.
“also lilly, why do you spend time reading tucker max”
Because you kept going on about him and I wanted to know what had upset you so much! You can’t on one hand complain about me not calling out Charlotte Allen or Tucker Max, on the other hand ask me why I spent time reading his site!!!
“instead of caring fro a husband or a soldier’s kids who is bleeding 2 death in fiat foreign wars on foreign shoreS?”
I cared for my husband, I cared for my foster son, I still do though he isn’t my responsibility anymore. I care for lots of other people and children. I don’t know any soldier’s kids who need looking after. I do know some soldiers but their families don’t need any looking after.
But I really have to go now, or I’ll get spanked. Have a good evening!
[editor: line breaks people. this is unreadable. not that i read much of what you say anyhow.]
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Gorb,
Right on the office politics. My company is split about evenly between technical people and paper-pushers (this is not a pejorative, we do lots of legal and regulatory stuff and must produce lots of paper). The technical people are almost all laid-back and easygoing, male or female. The paper-pushers are now dominated by menopausal women who have been with the company 15-20 years and I have noticed a systematic pattern that the hottest women working for the company tend to end up fired. Furthermore, even ordinary flirting between a man and a woman who like each other results in reports to human resources by “3rd parties” about creating a sexually hostile work environment (the older women get jealous that the hot young ones are the ones getting flirted with). Honestly, you can’t even look at a woman’s butt wiggle as she walks away from you, even if you are not turning your head to do so.
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@Lily
I admire your self-restraint but I can’t see you resisting much longer. Although I do feel women are able to exert control over their hindbrain there are limits to this when two parties who find one another attractive are sharing the same bed and cuddling. Perhaps if you have the dog in there in the bed as well it acts as some kind of disincentive?
What breed of dog by the way? I can see how catching the baleful eye of a Dobermann Pinscher could put any Player off his stroke. A spaniel on the other other hand….
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Check this article out R
http://www.motherandbaby.com.au/ContentItem.aspx?ContentID=1746
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“If I watch Fox news, I will not receive the truth on politics. If I watch Jon Stewart, I most likely will.”
There’s no such thing as “truth” from any source because of (most charitably) unconscious bias.
The biggest problem with any source as I see it today is that of omission rather than inaccuracy. They decide which facts are relevant to the story based on their own viewpoint, and in essence you are buying into their filter instead of forming your own outlook based on all the information.
The best way to get the truth about any issue is to observe the back and forth in the blogosphere till all the relevant data comes out.
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I love that women all secretly hate each other on a subconscious level.
It was a realization that took me some time to accept due to environmental brainwashing during my formative years, but back in the day I heard Tom Leykis say that and I began to notice that it is absolutely true.
It is a very exploitable weakness in every romantic or economic situation, and playing the hate card almost always gets results. At the very least it’s fun watching them try to socially outmaneuver each other to gain dominance in their little worlds.
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editor i> put that one up there because stone is an example of a woman with exceptional genes who nonetheless succumbed like all women do to the splat against the wall. she did look pretty good up until her early 30s, but now she is a husk of her former hottie self. so tragic.]
Well Sharon Stone was in her mid 30’s when she made Basic Instinct and she was very nice looking according to my eyes.
[editor: actually, she was around 32, 33 when she filmed basic instinct.]
Anon Supermodels make money from age 18-27, after which they dwindle off. Even Cindy Crawford and Claudia Schiffer stopped appearing in top bookings after age 33.
’nuff said.
This is wrong. Naomi Campbell, Claudia Schiffer Christy Turlington, Stella Tenant & Linda Evangelista are all still booking top campaigns and are on the cover of Magazines. Check out the recent covers of Vogue Italia for evidence.
[please, the number of covers they do has fallen off considerably since their prime.]
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Anouk,
Your political biases are showing.
As original JB said, no news source is anywhere near sufficient. You have to actively search out all viewpoints and follow the debates and form your own conclusions only when you are confident you understand the other side.
Unless you prefer rationalization to rationality. Anointing one source as the best is a great way to avoid ever having your prejudices challenged.
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SD I also thought of sending Default the White Knight a nude photo but felt this might be annoyingly coy.
Oh Really ????
*chic noir sharpens knife*
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Young, hot women should stick with young, hot men.
The very reasons why women lose their hotness as they age are the SAME EXACT reasons MEN lose their hotness at an EARLIER age than women. Men age in the worst way and unless they use steroids to keep their aging bodies from going to flab and spray their bald spots with Ron Popeil’s magickal hair spray for blading men and pop Viagra for their lack of blood-flow because they are CREAKING already…eh, guys age BAD and it’s NOT pretty. No woman in her right mind (at ANY age) wants an old, limp, flaccid fart who thinks he’s the shit just because he uses Viagra and takes all kinds of ‘enhancements’ to fight father time. No, men, father time is NOT good to you. Mother nature is good to women and you all hate that. Now you can’t even be ‘providers’ because women can pick and choose men and don’t have to ‘need’ a man. Sucks to be an old fart now, eh?
ANY young woman who goes for an older man is USING him just as much as he is USING her. Don’t call a woman a ‘gold digger’ if that’s the KIND OF WOMAN you want. Idiots.
Deep wrinkles are NOT sexy on MEN or WOMEN. Any man that thinks they are sexy with bitch tits, a sagging scrotum that dangles between their legs and thinning hair is DELUSIONAL.
Look in the mirror, fellas. Would YOU date yourself?
You men are losing jobs and losing ‘status’.
Good luck, old farts.
[editor: hi LR. the bastard hitting girls at school again? juvie’ll clear that right up!]
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“Gather ye rosebuds while ye may…”
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@Toolateforromance (great name by the way, I know the feeling)
I love that women all secretly hate each other on a subconscious level…. It is a very exploitable weakness in every romantic or economic situation, and playing the hate card almost always gets results. At the very least it’s fun watching them try to socially outmaneuver each other to gain dominance in their little worlds.
I agree that there is usually an element of competitive tension in dealings between women. I think saying that we all secretly hate one another is taking it a bit far.
Most sensible women know that it’s in our own interests to get on with other women (even cavewomen needed other women for support, men could prove surprisingly reluctant to assist in childbirth and their breastfeeding skills if something happened to the mother in the process were somewhat limited). So we will try to act fair by them.
Also, wonderful as men are, there is something which they can never provide, and that is the fun, of having a conversation with another woman, regarding them, just like Lily and I were having a few minutes ago.
SD I also thought of sending Default the White Knight a nude photo but felt this might be annoyingly coy.
Oh Really ????
*chic noir sharpens knife*
I did say “most sensible women”
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Poly/Original JB-
I’m exhausted, It’s a working weekend for me and I’m getting paid to do extensive research for an author of a book so my brain is a little fried at this point, as I done a hell of a lot of reading.
I will try to say what needs to be said however-
Of course I don’t pull from one source. I am so very tired of how you guys hone in on specifics and not the general jist– yet spend heaps of time generalizing everything and everyone else. Thanks, but no kidding. I was trying to make an example. I pull from a lot of sources for my information.
“The best way to get the truth about any issue is to observe the back and forth in the blogosphere till all the relevant data comes out.”
–the internet and blogsphere is just as bad as the news. This is a ridiculous statement.
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Poly-
I don’t have political bias. I operate with a combination of conservative and liberal views. Maybe this is why the sphere has such a hard time pegging me. I am neither and both. I am issue based, as I’ve said here before. I live my life the same way but I tend to de-value advice or information from those who do not actually go out and live life and those that are too young and don’t have enough life behind them. I value expereince even if it is bad experience because it often teaches the most.
I am writing under just anouk because “CR” has me in moderation for disagreeing with him, so this is really me. I’m sure my spelling errors and typos will give me away anyhow.
[editor: get over yourself, you’re not modded. wordpress randomly mods comments because of the strong anti-spam system it has. however, if you become an annoying troll repeating discredited talking points ad nauseum, then yes you will be modded.]
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@SD,
I’m sorry you think I’m a cunt, and I’m really not sure what I’ve done to make you feel this way.
Let’s start with Polymath’s comment:
Furthermore, even ordinary flirting between a man and a woman who like each other results in reports to human resources by “3rd parties” about creating a sexually hostile work environment (the older women get jealous that the hot young ones are the ones getting flirted with). Honestly, you can’t even look at a woman’s butt wiggle as she walks away from you, even if you are not turning your head to do so.
Now let’s review your comment, shall we?
Funnily enough it is usually only the guys over about 55 or so who actually aren’t afraid to pay compliments, flirt & so forth, my profession was far less politically correct when they were in their prime, they are great fun & always cheer me up.
Ah, so you want it all, then? A high-powered career surrounded by men who will flirt with you with the ultimate weapon of a sexual harassment lawsuit always at the ready. Nice.
The difficulty is, that a lot of guys round here operate on the presumption that all woman are sluts until presumed otherwise.
That’s not true. In fact my respect for Anoukange has increased since I’ve gotten to know her, even though she takes pics of her ass and posts them online. At least she is honest. You have a smiling puppy dog as your gravatar but it really ought to be Harriet Harman or Margaret Thatcher. The point is don’t try to hide what you are, what’s in your nature.
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Insecure women are nasty to other women. Secure women are not. See: Assanova’s blog on the realities of attractive women. They are some of the nicest women there are because they are always having to defend and/or put out any fires that burn in the assuming them to be bitches due to their good looks.
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Tim, are you trying to game SD? You were once so nice.
anouck I operate with a combination of conservative and liberal views. Maybe this is why the sphere has such a hard time pegging me. I am neither and both
Me too 🙂
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Tim-
“That’s not true. In fact my respect for Anoukange has increased since I’ve gotten to know her, even though she takes pics of her ass and posts them online. At least she is honest.”
–In high school I ran track and I ran with what is referred to as running with a kick. I would get blown out in the first few laps around. Slowly but surely though, I would kick into my speed running in the last few times around the track and blow out the cramping, panting hot shots that gave up their speed in the beginning. For some reason it is my natural way to make things harder for myself than they need to be. It’s my signature style, I come from behind. It would appear with age that I haven’t changed that much. It wasn’t my intention to come falling face first into the blog sphere carrying the title of slut (pro-male anti-feminist tech has an entire post raging on me calling me a below average DC slut…needless to say, I cried when I read it…I’m sure that brings him much happiness), crazy bitch, feminist, insecure, shaming, stupid cunt war-hog, but I took it all. I took it all because I knew you were all wrong.
You’re wrong about SD. She is not how you say she is. I see where you get it from, she does set herself up over at her blog to come off as a bit too uptight and came from a past realtionship that shook her to her core. But she is warm. And she is just. Give her another try. There are too many people here that think highly of her for you not to consider you may be wrong.
p.s.–it was one picture of my ass to prove I was in shape for my old-ass age. 😉
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Smells like an angry middle aged woman
Your assignment is to interview a series of 38 year old men and women who are financially secure and who are in the market. Report back on who is getting a lot of what they want and who is growing desperate.
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Gorb
This is why the wife wants you to buy a showpiece car for the driveway. Why she wants a closet full of shoes. Why above even sex she craves status.
Because women love power. Power to be queen bee. To the queen goes the spoils of labor of others.
Women jockey to be royalty, and measure each other by status.
We know how women fuck the men who are getting fucked, and will judge a man by the hotness of his mate. We know how they do the reverse, and keep a beta beta, with snubs designed to rip apart his confidence.
Because women love status hierarchies, that they can fight within. Keep the down down, keep the up up, get your place in the ladder, and if it’s high enough others who are outside of your immediate family will give you labor.
Women are power hungry whores.
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SD,
Good comment about how women feel about other women. There is a natural competitiveness there, but it is often in our best interest to try and get along with one and other. Women who don’t like you can make your life difficult to say the least.
anouk,
I wrote a comment about how age takes its toll on men also and that seems to have disappeared.
[editor: nothing disappeared of yours except your logic. dumbass, no one is claiming here that age doesn’t take a toll on men. but what is obvious to anyone with the eyes to see is that age takes a harder toll much sooner on women than it does on men, and that age-related degradation is a bigger hit to women’s sexual worth than to men’s. iow, the wall is not gender neutral.
jesus christ this board is infested with tards, sophists and deranged hamsters.]
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for the record,
my disdain for women arises from the fact that i have the mind of an aspy man without the concomitant sexual desire for women. thats why i understand exactly what men would do if the lost interest in women for sex…
…hunt them for sport
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Anouk,
–the internet and blogsphere is just as bad as the news. This is a ridiculous statement.
You are missing my point. The internet and blogosphere are just as full of idiots as the news, perhaps even more so. That doesn’t matter. What matters is that you get all the facts that are available, and are exposed to all the serious arguments that are out there. If you are willing to seek things out, you can often figure out what is really going on in some controversy, even though there is no individual source that will present a complete picture. It is the diversity of the internet that is its strength here, you get a much broader range of both opinion and facts than on the TV news. (By a broader range of facts I mean there are many things that the mainstream media won’t write about at all, not that individual facts vary from one source to another. Facts are facts, or else someone is lying. They are different from opinion, despite the attempt of so many to pretend that “truth” is relative. You are entitled to your own opinions, but not to your own facts.)
So say it again more concisely: the value of the internet is not that there are wiser heads there who are more likely to be right, it’s that you can IF YOU ARE OBJECTIVE find out more of what you need to know than if you just follow the mainstream media.
Of course, if you are not objective, it is even easier on the internet to find other people with your particular biases and become even more confirmed in them.
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Poly-
“The paper-pushers are now dominated by menopausal women who have been with the company 15-20 years and I have noticed a systematic pattern that the hottest women working for the company tend to end up fired.”
–that’s a real shame. I worked as a floral designer for over five years and the environment was splendidly un-PC. I got smacked on the ass almost daily. Dirty jokes were a on-going competition amongst the staff. The creatives are crazy and bad with the business end of things, but damn we had some fun.
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Poly-
“Of course, if you are not objective, it is even easier on the internet to find other people with your particular biases and become even more confirmed in them.”
–Poly, if I am majorly flawed in a way that bothers me more than any of my flaws, it is that I stay too undefined. I’m afraid to commit to any one particular philosophy. I don’t know if it’s in me to ever be completely decided. I hold to the value that everything is relative and as soon as it stops being dependent on change, time and movement, that it is is Fixed. Is a political system supposed to be structure for a nation and fixed, or is it supposed to be flexible and agile? My indecisiveness has worked against me and brought me harm. If there is one thing I’m not doing from any news or internet source, it is getting any pre-set ideas/opinions of mine affirmed and stroked. I’m gathering still. For as old as 33 is, it is still quite young when it comes to the big league stuff like politics and finance. That’s why I’ve paid attention to the minds of men above 40.
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Anouck pro-male anti-feminist tech has an entire post raging on me calling me a below average DC slut…needless to say, I cried when I read it…I’m sure that brings him much happiness),
For that very reason(bold) they keep posting and posting and posting such things about you. They enjoy making you cry. It makes them feel powerful. Stop giving them ammunition.
Now I know the lady folks come in many different flavors in these parts & you are on the softer end of the spectrum but you need to toughen up.
The stuff people post about you online is just that, stuff on line. Words on a screen. They don’t know you. Even the people who are closest to you don’t truly know you.
I’ve read a lil bit of what pro-male anti- fem posts. If he did write that, it is indeed unfortunate since I found him likable.
p.s.–it was one picture of my ass to prove I was in shape for my old-ass age. 😉
left hand candy for the bitter betas.
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dana-
if the man ended it, then yes, he may do that. if the woman ended it, it may be different.
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Chic-
as always, thank you. xoxo.
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i meant if all men lost all sexual interest in all women, biologically not one man losing interest in one woman
::facepalm::
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Anookage
Translation: When women lose all desire for men they concentrate on getting resources from them instead because it “feels” right.
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your welcome anouck.
Rum- you were once a nice guy who was very quiet. Now you comment a little more but you’re mean.
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“Aint tongue-tied, just got nothing to say.
Proud to be living in the USA.”
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Dana-
I thought you were speaking of a marriage.
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pupu finds her good looking for an almost 40 year old
http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&q=helene+grimaud&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1440&bih=687
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@ Anouk
I don’t think that truth is relative. I think that there are many objective truths out there that are knowable, even when uncertainty is the truth (ex. quantum physics). What is science after all, but humanity’s search for truth? Someone can completely convince themselves that gravity doesn’t exist, but that doesn’t make it go away.
In terms of spin, I think it’s important to make a distinction between objective facts, and the articulation of fact with an opinion that may or may not be valid. At the end of the day, Fox News and MSNBC both deliver the same factual information, it’s in their interpretations of the meanings of those facts where they differ. Both btw are the de facto propaganda arms of the major political parties. I find it quite disgusting to watch. Makes me feel like I’m living in 1984.
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aouk
i mean this without sarcasm or rancor but in the spirit of genuine curiosity
“my disdain for women arises from the fact that i have the mind of an aspy man without the concomitant sexual desire for women. thats why i understand exactly what men would do if the lost interest in women for sex…
…hunt them for sport”
by what process did you derive marriage from that?
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Lily–
Depends on how you define beauty. If it’s purely physical and how they look like then I can understand that in an abstract photos in a magazine kind of way but not in real life when you want to spend your life with someone.
I got out my old photos today, both regular snapshots and modelling ones ranging from 15-33 and I looked best at 22. But overall, I was a more beautiful woman overall at say 30, sadly on the decline since then, I can feel the elasticity in my skin going. So what, it’s just natural. No reason to be insecure.
You may well still look very pretty. I hope you do. But the point is, tick toc, tick toc. If you want to have kids with a really attractive man that is.
Roissy of course doesn’t realize you’re divorced.
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she is 40 when she is interviewed here.
[editor: imagine what she looked like at 20! but, yeah, she’s about a one in a million 40 year old.]
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I thought you were speaking of how a man had become. As in– somewhat mocking bitterness. Failed marriage, fall-out with lack of attraction, etc. Hence my saying that if it was the man that left it would be him who choose this lifestyle and mind-set you speak of.
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*chose
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fascinating
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*chic noir throws out meat to the vultures*
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1293165/Nanny-30-died-sexual-arousal-watching-pornography.html
30
alone
cats
computer
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@Kate
I guess I was factoring in something a little silly — like love. I can’t imagine that all men stop having sex with their wives later in life. Especially if there is true love and respect there, and both have stayed as healthy and as fit as possible. Maybe I’m crazy, but it seems that true love can be erotic in itself, even sans a young body in ones partner.
This is true. It can happen. But raw sexual attraction will still be for younger girls. No avoiding it.
The dream that a man will always feel it most for his wife is exactly that. He can restrain himself and, mostly, not have the opportunity – but if we’re talking raw sexual attraction, youth and beauty trump all else all the time.
Love for a wife can make bonding more substantial. But we weren’t talking about that. The frame would be this:
Wife: “Do you find her more attractive than me?”
Husband: “She’s very attractive, but you’re my wife and I love you.” – hence I’m not acting on my attraction for her.
”[i was pretty good to her. when i dated her she was a looker, so i put in a bit more effort than i would have with a less attractive girl. but an ex of hers entered the picture, and complications ensued. perhaps the intervening years were a heartache for her, but it wouldn’t have been at my hand.]”
See, when you write things like this, you make us believe you have a heart. And then there will be a subsequent post the next day that will make my eyes bleed.
Stating the truth and breaking lies isn’t personal.
You’re making a mistake when you take broken lies and statements of fact that way. Don’t worry: It’s a common error for most modes of female thought.
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anoukage — “Fox News is for ordinary Beta males who I HATE HATE HATE and Jon Stewart is approved of and worshipped by important people.”
There. Fixed that for you.
Not that I’m a fan of Fox News. But it *sometimes* reports things: Ground Zero Mosque, New Black Panthers, Shirley Sherrod (filled with hate for the White man, understandably, but there it is), “no civil rights for Whites” and the like. Jon Stewart is SWPL central, only with 100% more snide/catty. He’s about as masculine as Johny Weir. But because important (read: idiot celebrites) like him, the same vapid-stupid field reliably engulfs women. Who are nothing but crowd followers.
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@Lily
@Laura
With the greatest possible respect, women do get more horny with age. At least in their thirties, most likely a fertility thing just like women in their thirties who get pregnant are more likely to have twins as their bodies release more eggs to try and maximise opportunities for conception. But I’d guess it does down later.
I’ve found that the horniest and most sexually aggressive women are in the 36-44 age range. I haven’t been with a huge number of 40 year-olds, but the two I have been were absolute animals and were insatiable. Both were married. I don’t know if their husbands got any of this. But they were absolutely sexually voracious.
In general, 30+ women tend to be better at sex, more interesting, less inhibited and are able to integrate the emotional/intimate aspects of sex with the raunchy lustful energy of sex far more effectively.
They also tend to be more comfortable with themselves and less worried about, say, being seen naked. And they like sex with the lights on a lot more.
Just a trend.
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@Polymath
Right on the office politics.
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I have noticed a systematic pattern that the hottest women working for the company tend to end up fired. Furthermore, even ordinary flirting between a man and a woman who like each other results in reports to human resources by “3rd parties” about creating a sexually hostile work environment (the older women get jealous that the hot young ones are the ones getting flirted with). Honestly, you can’t even look at a woman’s butt wiggle as she walks away from you, even if you are not turning your head to do so.
I’ve noticed this everywhere I’ve worked. Middle-aged women often get hate-ons for young ones. No other level of hate between categories seems to compare.
It stuns me that the abject failure of the “sisterhood” in almost all organizations hasn’t been blamed on the most obvious and clear source: the resentment of older women for younger ones, based entirely on sexual marketplace value.
It’s competitive one-upmanship and work censorship.
It’s always middle-aged women making the complaints about other people flirting with each other. That was a joke when I was working at a big company a few years ago. A 20-something couple emerged from the office fray, and until they decided they were a couple and not just fucking each other (about 4 months), the older women just abhored and hated the girl.
Amazing.
Feminists just can’t admit it.
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@too late for romance
I love that women all secretly hate each other on a subconscious level.
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It is a very exploitable weakness in every romantic or economic situation, and playing the hate card almost always gets results. At the very least it’s fun watching them try to socially outmaneuver each other to gain dominance in their little worlds.
Female politics are always much more visceral, fascistic and brutal than male politics. Women are the most socially savage gender, for all males’ violence.
No person can hurt another with a word – deliberately, coldly, calculatedly – like a woman can hurt another.
The only men who compare on the cruelty scale to some of these women are serial killers.
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*chic noir waves to an angry whiskey*
whiskey, John steward is beta. + He’s not even 5’7. Oprah is taller than John.
Shirley Sherrod does not hate whites. She realized it’s about the hate nots vs the haves. She’s 62 years old and from one of those backwards towns.
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Nicole,
”They are just telling the truth about how they and most people feel. Would you rather they lie?”
Believe it or not, I’m a sucker for the truth; I’d rather hear and believe worst case scenario in an attempt not to be disappointed. I think that’s why I enjoy reading this blog. But, it’s hard not to share my own viewpoint if I think something or someone is being unfairly represented. I hope I’m not hiding from the truth by doing this, but if I am, I’m open to changing.
”I’m worthless to most guys posting here, but I make music and art, write poetry, teach, have a daughter who isn’t looking to hop on the carousel, and best of all, I love people.”
It sounds like you have a very fulfilling life, and that’s wonderful. I can’t imagine most men here think you’re worthless. I see a lot of people who really enjoy reading your thoughts.
”Hug a homeless guy who you know is okay but just financially struggling or mentally ill in a non violent way today.”
The homeless get me every time! I always think, “But for the grace of God…” and mean it for real. I used to volunteer with a mission that worked with the homeless, and it certainly made me less concerned with myself. I think I’ll start doing it again; thanks for that reminder.
I appreciate your thoughts here and often learn from your comments.
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kate I appreciate your thoughts here and often learn from your comments.
I do as well. btw, don’t bother to believe Nicole. she knows she’s liked here. Sure she has her haters but anything that bleeds her monthly has haters on this board. sometimes it’s your fellow monthy bleeders who do the most hating.
* on que dana waves*
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lozlzozlzloolz
fellas.
all you really need 2 know about womenz is this:
powerful womenz and womenz in general
1) love secretive tapers of butthex without the gi8lrths conthent
2) finance secretive tapers of butthex without the gi8lrths conthent
3) publish secretive tapers of butthex without the gi8lrths conthent
5) promote secretive tapers of butthex without the gi8lrths conthent
6) repeat the lies of secretive tapers of butthex without the gi8lrths conthent
7) take it up the butt from secretive tapers of butthex without the gi8lrths conthent
8) defend secretive tapers of butthex without the gi8lrths conthent while ignoring and forgetting ll teh true heors bleeding 2 death in tehir foriegn neocn warz on foreign shores.
dats all u really need 2 know when ur dealing with womenz lozlzozlolzllzozzllozlzlozlzl
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Gorbachev,
”The dream that a man will always feel it most for his wife is exactly that. He can restrain himself and, mostly, not have the opportunity – but if we’re talking raw sexual attraction, youth and beauty trump all else all the time.”
I think it would be more accurate to say the dream that either a husband OR wife will always feel it most for his/her spouse is exactly that. Men aren’t the only ones who can be attracted to someone who appears better on the surface. Marriage is obviously a commitment to a spouse, and in that commitment I would hope love would grow. I never said the potential for a husband or wife to feel a strong attraction to a person outside of the marriage couldn’t exist, I only expressed the belief that they could have an exciting sex life despite getting older.
”Stating the truth and breaking lies isn’t personal.
You’re making a mistake when you take broken lies and statements of fact that way. Don’t worry: It’s a common error for most modes of female thought.”
First, no big lie was really exposed here today — it’s not a shocker that all people become less attractive as they grow old. Secondly, *you’re* making a mistake to think I take everything discussed here to heart; please don’t be so naive to think I take print on a monitor from people I know nothing about “personally.”
Further, what I was speaking to regarding the author having a heart is not exposing the truth, but his own admission of taking pleasure in the effect that it has on people.
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chic noir,
“sometimes it’s your fellow monthy bleeders who do the most hating.”
Sad, but true. 😦
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@Tim, Anouk
I’m beginnning to wonder if the two of you are playing bad cop good cop here.
Tim, you are determined to see me as a ball-busting bitch and nothing I say is going to change this. The comment of mine you mention is not even from this blog. It is from a post on my own blog, there was a big discussion at length there, at the end of which you said at your own volition that you would not bother me again. Now you bring the discussion over to another blog I comment on.
I appreciate now that younger men face difficulties with sexual harassment claims in the workplace that older men may not. I did not fully appreciate this at the time I made my original comment. One of the commenters on my site pointed this out in a polite fair and considered way and I specifically modified my original comment to take account of this before you came on the scene at all and started commenting. I still would like to compliment older men on being charming though lol.
I may not get things right the first time but if I knew everything there would be no point in me participating in the discussion at all. I am here to learn.
I am not as tough as Margaret Thatcher (I don’t know Harriet Harman) and I am actually quite easily hurt so if you could lay off the personal attacks I would be grateful. If not I will simply have to stop interacting with you.
I am glad that you have come to respect Anouk but it was certainly a rocky road for the two of you at the beginning and I don’t think I really want to go through a baptism of fire to that extent. Though I don’t think you called her a cunt, I seem to be the only one who merits that special epithet.
Anouk, you may well be trying to defend me but doing so by telling the board I am uptight is not really helping me feel any better, let them come to this conclusion themselves if they wish rather than handing them it on a plate. What do you mean by uptight anyway?
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”””””Gorbachev
@too late for romance
I love that women all secretly hate each other on a subconscious level.
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It is a very exploitable weakness in every romantic or economic situation, and playing the hate card almost always gets results. At the very least it’s fun watching them try to socially outmaneuver each other to gain dominance in their little worlds.
Female politics are always much more visceral, fascistic and brutal than male politics. Women are the most socially savage gender, for all males’ violence.
No person can hurt another with a word – deliberately, coldly, calculatedly – like a woman can hurt another.
The only men who compare on the cruelty scale to some of these women are serial killers.””””’
Yea the workplace is nut. One older woman 43 or so was after everyone. Got a camp manager fired got the girl with him fired for relationship. Plus the camp manager was showed his emails to her by hr. Mostly innocent but both let go.
She set her sights on me since I pretty much got along with everyone. Was tracking my movements and shit.
But then I tracked hers down to the minute he he he
Lets just say the people that do the tracking don’t understand the log in their own eye.
I understood rules on time and followed to letter.
She did not.
When I brought up the tracking to her personally like don’t fuck with me.
It was some freaky shit could smell the fear on her.
But ya she brought to hr and they were telling me it was my problem lol
Other people in other camps were like yea we know she is a problem but she gets job done. I am like shit if getting job done is causing problems then yea.
So she could track people and no problem.
I did it and it was invalid use of company time.
HR tries to get me not to press issue saying I am gonna get the shit falling on me.
I am like I don’t give a fuck if she is fired just leave me the fuck alone.
But yea it was another older female that put her out of her misery and told her,”nobody likes you”
She left a few days later.
And yea if you want results have a female take a female out. he he he
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Best work envirement with females I had was as waiter. I had a good time at work. Used to pick the females up and shit. Noone gave a fuck about sexual harrassment because nobody gave a fuck about getting fired lol woman had a good time too. Work environment free of sexual harrassment laws and discrimination laws because people could care less is a happier environment.
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@SD- calm down. Tim has admitted he was wrong.
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@SD,
Don’t worry about it. I was abusive to you, which I can’t justify. But I don’t want to hog up another man’s blog so I’ll apologize to you on your own site.
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*chic noir reaches out to tim and SD for a group hug*
*whiskey mumbles to self*
“to bad tim isn’t an alpha, or they would had a group kiss to top if off.”
“betas only get hugs at best”
whiskey sighs and shrugs.
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@dana
thats why i understand exactly what men would do if the lost interest in women for sex…
…hunt them for sport
Interesting, because I just wrote a post with a similar premise: Are PUAs Mixing Hunting and Reproductive Instincts?
But keep in mind that hunters don’t have any malice for their prey. Much the opposite. They are fascinated by them and admire them. This is part of what caused me to ask the question in the title of the post.
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I don’t know tim but forcing females to see what is going on will involve angst on there part.
And apologizing if you feel you were right might not be the best way to make them realize internally what is up.
Look at nicole she was justifyable put down before because she was talking some crazy shit.
Then she has epiphany about holy fuck this is how all men are treated and understands.
But yea I think there is pain for men and woman.
It is just that when a woman is in pain she has a ton of legal sources to make a man suffer.
The men have nothing to protect them except themselves.
Hr is not their for men it is their for woman.
All the programs you see at the big companies are not there for men in need they are there for woman.
So to make a woman see just how good she has it is gonna make them very angry at first.
Then some realization like well yea I could fuck up a guys life with many diferent tools available as well as physically with a weapon but a man pretty much his only defense is gonna be physically and he will be punished for it.
A woman can have sex with her boss in a large company and get him fired and get promoted as long as she says sexual harrassment.
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Or I should say how she has actually been treated well by men compared to how as a woman she had the ability to treat others as shit and did.
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@chic- sad about the chick who died from arousal. she wasn’t bad looking- perhaps she was either (1) excessively hypergamous (wouldn’t settle), or (2) horrendously unpleasant, that she couldn’t get a boyfriend. if she was a nanny, that would argue against the latterpoint, because people who work with children usually have to be kind and patient.
@SD – my love, responding to repeated provocations on the same point does nothing but encourage them to continue. you would be best advised to ignore such abuse in the future.
@all- the points about women being more cruel than men, especially to each other, are definitely true. there is no creature on the face of the earth more vicious than a woman who has fallen out of love with her former husband/boyfriend. any man who has gone through a divorce will attest to this. we are not really like that.
@GBFM- it looks like all the stuff you asserted takes place without the girls’ consent. What exactly to they consent to, then? Are they being desouled against their will by Bernanke and the fiat masters, or are they complicit? Even a little bit?
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GBFM wins thread, no further posting needed.
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On game with long term woman.
I am noticing that I will innocently poke her tit he he he
Then I look away as if nothing had happened.
Then I will do it again. Remain calm act again like I didn’t do anything stare off into distance.
Yea I tease the shit out of her in cute way and she laughs it up then attacks me with some huggin.
Sometimes she gets getting dressed and I am like come here.
Then she comes over and I am like poke on v area.
The she finishes getting dressed and I am like I wasn’t finished. Then she takes down pants and I am like poke again and then ok you can go he he he
Not consciouse but I do notice now that I am trying to that I constantly have her submit to my will. And it makes her happy lol
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@Maurice
@SD – my love, responding to repeated provocations on the same point does nothing but encourage them to continue. you would be best advised to ignore such abuse in the future.
This is good advice, I will not be responding to these statements any further, either on my own or anyone else’s blog.
Chic, I can’t understand how you knew another commenter was going to apologise to me 17 minutes before they actually did so.
There will be no group hug, not even a distance one, I’m afraid. End of story.
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gregi,
re anouk
That was an obvious threat especially considering that it’s coming from a woman who has issued threats in the exact same manner in the past (on this blog).
anouk:
Tim-
“That’s not true. In fact my respect for Anoukange has increased since I’ve gotten to know her, even though she takes pics of her ass and posts them online. At least she is honest.”
“It’s my signature style, I come from behind. It would appear with age that I haven’t changed that much. It wasn’t my intention to come falling face first into the blog sphere carrying the title of slut (pro-male anti-feminist tech has an entire post raging on me calling me a below average DC slut…needless to say, I cried when I read it…I’m sure that brings him much happiness), crazy bitch, feminist, insecure, shaming, stupid cunt war-hog, but I took it all. I took it all because I knew you were all wrong.”
Way to misread in the perfect manner to protect your ego.
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maurice:
“sad about the chick who died from arousal. she wasn’t bad looking- perhaps she was either (1) excessively hypergamous (wouldn’t settle), or (2) horrendously unpleasant, that she couldn’t get a boyfriend”
Aren’t those really the same?
When someone behaves unpleasantly it’s because they believe they can still get what they need from the other person even though they make no effort to make the interaction pleasant for the other person.
After all, game is (at least partly) about consciously changing your behavior towards women to mimic the behavior of a man who is much greater in status than she is. Core truth; women don’t deal with reality, women deal with what other people think of them. Act like you’re a rockstar and she’s a replaceable groupie and she’ll respond (until other signals get through to her hamster).
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More on the nanny.
http://www.metro.co.uk/news/834548-nanny-died-from-sexual-excitement-while-using-vibrator-and-watching-pornography
Must say I was quite perturbed by the tone of the article and was glad to see the comments at the bottom of the piece, England hasn’t quite gone to the dogs just yet.
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@sdaedalus
On the subject of dogs, I don’t want to give out too much identifying information but it’s a big one, still officially a puppy though and super cuddly, quite useful to lie in the middle if things get too heated. Not a Doberman, though I understand they are quite good as ‘nannies’.
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On the subject of cattiness, I’ll throw in my own two cents.
I’ve since learned I don’t have the temperament or social skills to win any kind of fight with most girls by being a bitch. I tend to not know where the line is. For me my emotions are two sensitive and once I get started in on the shaming and the hurting I go straight for the balls. Once when I was younger I mentioned how someone’s father had left them and that was why they were alone because they had daddy issues. Then I was promptly (and rightfully) thrown out of the group and socially ostracized for a long while.
So I can’t play the catty game because when I do I tend to throw in nuclear bombs and then get sick from the radiation poisoning.
So now my tactic of choice is war by deescalation. Whatever my most important point is I hold it, but at the same time I acknowledge the feelings of whoever commenting, and then also acknowledge that I might have ((unintentionally)) made them look feel or look bad, but then I reiterate that I still believe my point is strong.
This doesn’t work as well on men as it does on women, but it still works really well. For example on one of my good male friends who for all the booty he gets still tends to be very emotional and easily angered. I find that if you sit down with him and talk things out logically point by point and every time he feels emotionally, address it and comfort he calms down.
So I guess my strategy admit where I’m wrong, which is often, keep on where I’m right, and address any hurt feelings.
Of course all of this is even harder to keep through the internet because most of the time people have no desire to save face and if anything there is an incentive to stir up things if only for entertainment value.
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Also, SD, you are quickly becoming my favorite person on the blogosphere. I’m sorry things here seem to matriculate towards nasty so quickly, but from the little bits and masks I have seen of you you’re really something special.
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”””””Of course all of this is even harder to keep through the internet because most of the time people have no desire to save face and if anything there is an incentive to stir up things if only for entertainment value.”””’
It is very hard to change ones life without some pain but like a phoenix rising from the ashes you can do it but you are gonna feel some fire.
But to remake you life completely and go against norms of those around you and be free. You are gonna feel the inferno of hell before you break through to utopia.
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SD said
“Chic, I can’t understand how you knew another commenter was going to apologise to me 17 minutes before they actually did so. “
Lol. Tim is Chic. Chic is Tim.
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Wiskey-
It was an example to use Fox news and Jon Stewart since they are almost polar opposites There are a lot of other news sources that fall within all the grays between these two. It was just an example.
Steve Johnson-
Dude, I like “CR” most of the time. How many times must I say this??? I was not threatening someone who hasn’t harmed me in real life.
[editor: relax, everybody, she can’t threaten me in real life because she doesn’t know who i am, despite what she may think.]
To read this blog and not agree with every last item presented is par for the course. Stop stirring shit. Stop speaking for me, stop giving my words YOUR own motivations.
vasafaxa-
“So I guess my strategy admit where I’m wrong, which is often, keep on where I’m right, and address any hurt feelings.
Of course all of this is even harder to keep through the internet because most of the time people have no desire to save face and if anything there is an incentive to stir up things if only for entertainment value.”
— I agree and practice this as well. I am very direct, especially with those I respect and like.
SD-
I’m not sure what you mean by good cop, bad cop. I watched Tim melt down over at your place and for some reason I could follow his logic. I’m not saying he is right and I’m not saying I agree. By reading what he has written and following his process, I could see how he concluded what he had, that is all. I’ll address any casual use of the word uptight with you in private email.
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Some of you believe women are cruel to each other, i want to object, this is not true at all, the only situation i find myself having problem with women, is the older generation, in their 50s, they really dont like me, otherwise, i have plenty of very good friends both men and women.
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I had a quick look but couldn’t easily find any pictures of Sharon Stone when she was very young.
But here are some of Kylie!
Aged about 21

31 on left and 41 on right
http://beborednomore.com/2009/06/09/then-and-now/
More 31-33


I think she’s late thirties in this one

Personally, I think she looks really beautiful in this one but I don’t know when it was taken. I’d guess late 20s.

Anyway, I at least think she looked a lot better between say 25 and 33 than she did when she was younger (and that was one of the more flattering pictures from the days she was playing Charlene in Neighbours). She’s going downhill now/hit the wall.
So I think she’s a good example on the study.
It’s not the confidence per se but the outcome of it. But at a certain age (study says 31, I think it as about 30 for me), the ageing process takes away from the overall so it doesn’t matter how much more confident you get.
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Though thinking about it, I actually think Kylie would have been able to stave off the worse of it for a few more years because she’s got good genes, bad botox has made her look older. I wonder what will happen when she stops doing it, her sister stopped and now looks about 15.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1293305/Dannii-Minogue-releases-picture-baby-Ethan-Twitter.html
Please note I am no fan of indulging in celebrity gossip, I just think they are interesting from an ageing point of view and I think Kylie is a good example of someone who got more beautiful with age, peaked at around 30 and went downhill from there.
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I have a post stuck in moderation which will make the above post make more sense. I think it’s in moderation because of links, lots of pictures of Kylie Minogue.
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“woman reaching her sexual peak at 33”?
Well, what do they mean then by sexual peak?
– Sexual attractiveness?
No, that’s around 20
– Fertillity?
No, that’s also around 20.
– Suddenly realising it’s time to catch a good guy?
Yeah, that’s more likely what they mean by sexual peak.
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*chic noir throws out meat to the vultures*
They are speculating that she died from whacking off, but I’m wondering if it wasn’t an overdose of cliché.
Rough way to go.
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@bruno
No, it’s to do with sexual desire. It’s nothing to do with catching guys, most women are married by that age anyway. I remember even as a little girl overhearing conversations where men were complaining about their wives’ increased libidos.
Most likely nature giving women a wake up call to maximise their chances of having a healthy baby.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_go1966/is_1_11/ai_n6811366/pg_2/?tag=content;col1
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@Bruno
Sorry, I meant to link to the next page
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_go1966/is_1_11/ai_n6811366/pg_3/?tag=content;col1
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Excellent thread everyone. Roissey is da; best.
So about women posting here. Really, I’m not even supposed to post here. It is really for the men not for women…However, sometimes its so darn good and honest I must! It is like a loving COMPLUSION. LOL
The reason why us women revert to personal experience is that is not very reliable source of logic for the whole group.
For example, what is more objective cold hard facts? or whishy washy subjective-y-ness? I must acknowledge by own problems with logic. As we ladies are…logic-challenged. Hence, why a man is needed to explain stuff to us ladies.
The guy that did reject me by not dating me, opted for the younger women. and he was right to. It is just the way it is. You cannot cheat mother nature and the natural order .
The most healthiest thing I can do is live in the truth and be honest 🙂
…thelp999
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Cattiness is why I have limited females freinds…I love ladies, but we are too damn bitchy. Quit taking sh-t so personal…its not personal.
Its all that estrogen rolling around causing us trouble, lol. i call it “hyperesotrongenic” and write it about on my blog. therefore, when I feel my inner bitch starting up, I smack da bitch!
( that was a refernece to that song, “smack my bitch up”. young’uns wont know that.)
LOL
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Doyourownresearch
“Next Dummy”? Actually, I only talk to smart men. I use and abuse their big brains. That’s why I like this site so much.
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@Capt Bob
That “anonymous” was me, I didn’t fill in the blanks,
“”As for the local blokes, I used to think they are un-assertive betas too. Until one day my local colleagues (all married) took me up to Shanghai to meet their mistresses. It was an eye opener. These guys live (at least) two lives!! Any guys who has the funds/game/energy to do that deserve my respect.””
Actually having a mainland mistress…is beta.
These guys are working for the women, not the other way around.
And have you ever seen these older local guys with these ditsy hot 20 year olds?
It’s a contest of who’s more giggly.
I saw a 50-ish looking local guy….glasses….with hot mainland, mandarin-speaking moll beside him on the airport express once, so he’d just picked her up….he was shaving beside her…
No class. She’s not likely to fuck the guy.
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Lily–
It’s bad but it’s not that bad. 33% of white women and almost 50% of black women are clinically obese as of a couple of years ago in the US. (I’d have said a higher % for black women, it sure seems like in her in NYC.)
Mayan type Latinas from southern Mexico and Central America that we’re getting a lot as a massive inflow of illegals also tend to be obese in high percentages. the women far more than the men, until the men get old.
Obesity occurs far more down the SES scale, and also more away from the coasts. SWPL girls lose status by becoming fat not to mention obese. Sure it’s the same in England (which I note you like to use rather than Britain or the UK, and yeah I do know the technical distinctions). Though I think the SES distinction is less true of black women.
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Lily–
Yeah that article that first Chic Noir and then you linked really was low life sensationalist journalism.
She died of a previously undetected weak heart. She could just as well have keeled over rushing for a taxi or exercising in a gym.
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@TheEditor
Don’t knock oestrogen, it really rocks! I love it. It makes your skin glow, like confidence and positive energy.
“( that was a refernece to that song, “smack my bitch up”. young’uns wont know that.)”
I think it was considered more of a ‘track’ than a ‘song’.
Do post a link to your blog. I remember reading some of your previous posts, you seem quite unhappy and I wonder what’s happened to you in your life to make you feel like that 😦
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maurice wrote:
“@GBFM- it looks like all the stuff you asserted takes place without the girls’ consent. What exactly to they consent to, then? Are they being desouled against their will by Bernanke and the fiat masters, or are they complicit? Even a little bit?”
lozzlolzzoozzzlzozlzoz
we shoudl write a letter and send it to the fiat masters/pp/ca about the drynamics of secretive tapings of butthex taped without the girlths conthent. like in teh neocn manuals for secretiev tpings of butthex i bet it talks more about teh purpose and plan of the promoting and rewaridng and prfoiting off of secretive tapings of butthex taped without the girlths conthent.
well that all depends lzozlzozlloz
but what i’m trying 2 tell teh guys is 2 not to h8 on womenz and 2 forgive them for being led astray by the federal reserve bankers and the neocons aging ladies who repeate the butthexer’s lies about tehir height and the aging ladies at sodom and schuster simon and schuster who wire lotsa berannke dolalrs 2 tucker max rewardingsecreteiv tapings of butthex without the girlths conthent lzozlzozlozl.
even lilly and sniper and teh woemnz posting here seem nice, but it is sad to see them merely regurgitating the fed’s talking points as they raise their little hands and scream:
“MY GINA SMELLS BETTER NOW AT 35 THAN 21!”
“MY EGGS ARE MORE MORE FERTILE NOW at 31 THAN EVER BEOFRE AND LESS CHANCE OF CREATIG DOWNS KIDS !”
“I AM MOR EBEAUTIFUL NOW @ 31 THAN EVER BEFORE!” they yell as their turkey neck gizzard vibrated and hjiggles, just like their arms fat arms sag as they hold up signs “31 IS MORE BEUATIIFUL THAN 21! IT IS MUCH BETTER TO MARRY AN EXPERIENCED BNITTER MULTI-ASSOCKED IN NEOCN SECRETIVE TAPINGS OF BUTTHEX SESSIONS THAN AN INNOCENT =21 YEAR OLD!!!”
lzozlzozlzozozl
see the federal reserve has to take worthless pieces of debt based paper and convert them into physical property lzozlzozlzoz and that’s where womenz come in lzozlzozol and it was great for awhile when the womenz, like the divorce regime, was young, as teh divorce regime pumped and dumped men promising them a hoe and fanmily and children up front and then bnaiting ans d switching and dragging them through divorce court lzozlzlzozl
but despite teh necons best efforst, word got out because of noble men like roissy and now we go LOZZLZOZLZOZOZL no i am not buying you a ring because you’re a desouled, bernkified womenz after my bling lzozlzozozlozlzlzlozlzl
so yes most women have no idea when they are being desouled with the cock going in and out in and out of their nuths in a secretive taping of neocnj butthex which the neoncons publish promote and profit off of lzozlozzlzozlzl and i imagine that some of teh neocns might know that they are desouling womenz in tehir deosuling programsz, but maybe domse of teh neocns are really just stupid iditiots it’s hard to tell but when a cock is in your ass–you–as a girl–ought not be worried so much if beranke and teh weekly standadth understands what is going on, but more you ought to be worried taht tehre is a cock in your ass and your soul is leaving your body.
cause check thi out.
never in a million years would i marry a women who has been secrteively taped in an asscoking session taped without her conthent. lzozlzozlzl
nor would any other real man ever do this.
why marry a secretivelty taped assoccked, desouled girl when you can run game on 18-23 year olds and watch the deosuled women turn into dried up, fat, old, bitter prunes lzozlzozozlzozlzoozoloz who still, still, still won’;t ever come out against secrteiev tapinsg of butthex. lzozllzlzl
lzozlzlzo
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sdaedalus–
Since you talked about it and since polymath, gunny and others have provided examples, and are a smart and thoughtful professional woman, i trust you’ll agree with me that sexual harassment laws should be abolished, as doing a lot more harm than good, and subject to far to much abuse, which happens all the freakin time.
The hostile work environment bit is particularly egregious.
Who here disagrees with abolishing sexual harassment laws?
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Chic Noir
I wonder how many White people Shirley Sherrod discriminated against before she had her moment of clarity.
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lozlzozlzloolz
fellas. fellas fellas.
all you really need 2 know about womenz (who are now running the supreme court and all of everything and simon and schuster as the fed uses and promotes womenz as womenz naturally are born to take assetts from men rather than make/invent/hunt on tehir own lozlzollozlz) is this:
powerful womenz and womenz in general
1) love secretive tapers of butthex without the gi8lrths conthent
2) finance secretive tapers of butthex without the gi8lrths conthent
3) publish secretive tapers of butthex without the gi8lrths conthent
5) promote secretive tapers of butthex without the gi8lrths conthent
6) repeat the lies of secretive tapers of butthex without the gi8lrths conthent
7) take it up the butt from secretive tapers of butthex without the gi8lrths conthent
8) defend secretive tapers of butthex without the gi8lrths conthent while ignoring and forgetting ll teh true heors bleeding 2 death in tehir foriegn neocn warz on foreign shores.
dats all u really need 2 know when ur dealing with womenz lozlzozlolzllzozzllozlzlozlzl
caveat emptor !! lozllzlzlllzllz
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Doug, the midwest and south (US) are part of the “goiter belt” and therefore have more incidence of iodine deficiency which leads to overweight and disease.
If you guys like slim women you’ll want to push the USDA to increase the RDA of Iodine far above 150 micrograms. The average Jap in Japan gets 10,000 mcgs in their diet. For around
We also need to push to get bromide removed from foods. Bromide blocks iodine absorbstion. Same goes for flouride in our water (already banned in some European countries).
http://www.narichmond.com/critical_importance_of_dietary_iodine.html
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^^^^
lozlzlzo
like what if womenz just ate less and exercised more lzozlzl
why does everything have to be government progam
oh wait i forgot you ar working for bernanke lzozlzozlzl
okgo ahead then create a government oprogram and tax me more for thinner womenz as i would rather pay for that than foreign wars on foreign shores whcih the neocns hype while their laides ignore the heroes bleed ing 2 death on foreogin shores in foreiegen wars while promoting butthexers and repeting the leis of secrtieve tapers of butthex hwo tape it without teh girlths ocntehnt lzlozllzllzllllllzozlzlzol
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greatbooksformen – I’m pretty sure if it was only a matter or eating less and exercising more, we wouldn’t have so many fatties. Seriously,,,people have even resorted to having their stomachs stapled…that’s a lot more severe than pushing away from the table and going for a walk.
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xsplat’s posts are all going directly to mudrtion now. One since july 24 9:37 . They are not disappearing on other sites.
Gorb
This is why the wife wants you to buy a showpiece car for the driveway. Why she wants a closet full of shoes. Why above even sex she craves status.
Because women love power. Power to be queen bee. To the queen goes the spoils of labor of others.
Women jockey to be royalty, and measure each other by status.
We know how women fuck the men who are getting fucked, and will judge a man by the hotness of his mate. We know how they do the reverse, and keep a beta beta, with snubs designed to rip apart his confidence.
Because women love status hierarchies, that they can fight within. Keep the down down, keep the up up, get your place in the ladder, and if it’s high enough others who are outside of your immediate family will give you labor.
Women are power hungry whores.
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I’m pretty sure the powers that be don’t want Americans to get a clue about iodine. Proper iodine consumptions in this country would KILL the Big Pharm.
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“editor: if i were the supernatural type, i’d sooner wish for reincarnation than an eternal afterlife in heaven. the latter sounds so boring.”
In my concept of heaven, I would be doing cocaine everyday by putting my face in a mountain of pure Colombian yeyo while having crazy Roman-style orgies with Victoria Secret look a like virgins all day. Who knows maybe Jesus is doing that right now with Marilyn Monroe look a likes? If heaven was just chilling with Jesus and God smoking bud all day then I would also prefer reincarnation tho. Hedonists are hard to satisfy.
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White Woman
greatbooksformen – I’m pretty sure if it was only a matter of eating less anus and exercising more gina, we wouldn’t have so many secretive tapings of butthex without the girlths conthent. Seriously,,,people have even resorted to having their anuthes stapled…that’s a lot more severe than pushing away from the cock and going for a walk.
White Woman
I’m pretty sure the powers that be don’t want Americans to get a clue about secrtive tapings of butthex without the girths conthent. Proper anti-secretive-tapings-of-butthex provisions in this country would KILL the Big Publishers.
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greatbooksformen – sorry I’ve never understood much about your butthex obsession but definitely understand your Bernanke obsession.
Have you had taken your iodine yet today?
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Whore-women (married women) make $ through displays of status.
Men make money through labor and managing the labor of others. Or crime and violence.
The more expensive the woman’s purse and shoe combo, the more $ she will get from all the friends that know her.
That is what is happening in her hindbrain. If she wears the proper talismans signifying royal blood, she will be treated as the group queen, or as close to the queen as she can get.
And to a woman, that is money. That is power over the klatch. Money=status=money=status, and status earns money, and money earns status. Her kids will be treated better. They will get better wives and husbands. They will get larger wedding gifts from a larger crowd of people.
To a woman, status signalling is deadly serious, and she can’t escape this deep seated feeling with any effort; psychotherapy, hypnotherapy, drugs, or even great sex.
Woman is born whore, and to be a whore is to be a status whore, and to be a status whore is to be a whore.
They fuck for status.
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@White Woman
Regardless of iodine, people wouldn’t be so obese if they ate better and ate less and exercised more (no need to even necessarily ‘exercise, just be more active, as the Why French Women Don’t Get Fat book). Doug’s right about it in England too, it’s a class thing or rather linked to lifestyles within class, not linked to location so much, possibly more prevalent in the north but again because of bad diet. If you eat a lot of white flour and greasy food and you’re not particularly active then you’re more likely to be obese.
I was surprised that it was a factor in Roissy’s boners though as I wouldn’t have thought that obese women would even be in his radar to be worth thinking about in his SWPL life.
[editor: you sound confused. obese women are a factor inasmuch as they reduce the overall quality of womanhood available to induce my boners. the more fat women, the fewer women there are who can properly arouse me. what don’t you get about that simple logic?]
@gbfm
You really seem obsessed with butthexing. Why is this?
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A good slut, on the other hand, is much less of a status whore. Listen to Epoxy on this one. The “good” girls tend towards being the biggest life sucks.
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White Woman,
Iodine isn’t the problem so much as processed sugar and fats and carbs. If everyone at eraw eggs, grass fed beef, fruits and veggies, obesity and other issues would be somewhat alleviated.
Side note: Before you go out on Friday night eat some raw beef (though do not mix with cooked meat). The pill won’t be necessary.
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lzozlzozlzl
hey fellas watch clcosely becaus ethis is classic womenz dyamic as they make everything about sex and butthex and then blame it on you when you ask them why they do this lzozlzlzl:
“White Woman
greatbooksformen – sorry I’ve never understood much about your butthex obsession but definitely understand your Bernanke obsession.
Have you had taken your iodine yet today?”
i personally do not like butthex not even secretively taped neocn butthex lzozlzl
but i point out that not me, but women:
1) love secretive tapers of butthex without the gi8lrths conthent
2) finance secretive tapers of butthex without the gi8lrths conthent
3) publish secretive tapers of butthex without the gi8lrths conthent
5) promote secretive tapers of butthex without the gi8lrths conthent
6) repeat the lies of secretive tapers of butthex without the gi8lrths conthent
7) take it up the butt from secretive tapers of butthex without the gi8lrths conthent
8) defend secretive tapers of butthex without the gi8lrths conthent while ignoring and forgetting ll teh true heors bleeding 2 death in tehir foriegn neocn warz on foreign shores.
dats all u really need 2 know when ur dealing with womenz lozlzozlolzllzozzllozlzlozlzl
caveat emptor !! lozllzlzlllzllz
it’s just like when women blame porn on men, even though the vast majority of women are teh ones performing in it acting in it and doing it and then it’s the guy’s fault because he sees it. lzozlzlzlzl
it’s like crimes are the fault of secruity cameras that observe it lozzllzo is how a woman reasons lzozlzlzlzl
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I’m sure I’m not the only man who finds an excessive desire for security from a woman to be a soul suck.
I’m not talking about prudent financial planning.
I’m talking about a hypergamous definition of what constitutes acceptable security. Well above simple living.
Did you ever uncover a mouse nest in your eaves? Sometimes they’ll have 10 years of food hoarded in there. Can mice be pathological? They can be biologically driven by an instinct more prime than reason.
It’s unattractive.
A woman of a more bohemian mindset will fuck you because it’s fun, and fuck tomorrow.
I know women love money. But can hypergamous marriage-whore love as deeply as a good slut? Marriage sluts include money into their love too much, and can’t love without tons of security. Hypergamous security is just stealth status.
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@GBFM- I see: they are being duped by the fiat masters and publishers into the secretive butthex tapings, not voluntarily choosing them. I mean, they can’t be unaware that they have a cock up their ass, as you point out, but they do seem to be unaware that this leads to desouling. This is an excellent and true point.
So what’s the connection between Simon and Schuster and the fiat masters at the Fed? Is Goldman Sachs involved? You’d think people in on the fiat scheme would not spend nearly as much time chasing worthless fiat dollars… right?
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I remember eating raw hamburger as a child when my mom was making dinner. I don’t do that anymore because I’m worried about salmonella poisoning.
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Marriage-whores. Not marriage sluts.
Women are one or the other. They either fuck for free and for fun, or they fuck for status.
Uggghhhh. I prefer a good controllable slut slave to a marriage whore every day of the week.
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“You’d think people in on the fiat scheme would not spend nearly as much time chasing worthless fiat dollars… right?”
yahahhhaah they convert those fiat dollars into publishing profits via secretive tapings of butthex without the girlths contehnt lzozlzolzlozlzzllzlzlzllzzlll
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Right, but how do fiat dollars lead to actual profits, long-term? And how does the secretive taping of butthex come in? Are the major publishing houses actually behind the entire porn industry, at the direction of the fiat masters and their program to desoul women?
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Paul
“If everyone ate raw eggs, grass fed beef, fruits and veggies, obesity and other issues would be somewhat alleviated. ”
I agree that diet is part of the problem…Iodine is part of a healthy diet. It (and other minerals) used to be found in higher amounts in vegetables but no longer is because of poor farming practices.
I also suspect that our country’s obsession with carbs, sugary and processed foods in general is due in large part to mineral deficiencies…people are self-medicating with junk food, trying desperately to feel better. The “sugar high” provides temporary relief.
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Maurice, all valid questions, except they question a premise that is either insane or a “joke” that is funny only because it is entirely ridiculous.
Are you honestly curious how secret buthex tapings fit into our monetary system?
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I never understood why anyone liked butthex. There’s poop in there people!
I am learning though that this sex act is often connected to satanic ritual…perhaps the connection with Big Pub?
Tell me if I’m getting close GBFM.
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@xsplat- I am interested in how GBFM thinks. I think the collage of obsessive images he posts over and over hang together in an odd but compelling way, and I want to know more. He has a lot of fans on this board so let’s see what comes out.
How about it, GBFM? Tell us more. Where did you get this stuff?
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But then again I understand why a lot of guys want to marry virgins or girls as “good” as they can get. Because a marriage-whore is focused more on security than dick.
I’d MUCH prefer a woman to love me for my cock, than for my security.
I understand that most guys can’t compete in the sexual marketplace. Ten minute fucks. Guys that are energetically illiterate who think that “pussy is pussy”. Most men have no clue how to meld in ecstatic love and joy and power, all energies felt throughout the body and mingling into hers until everything becomes bright and time stretches as it does while on LSD. Pussy is no more pussy than cock is cock. Chemistry is king. Get a woman who is addicted to your cock, good men. Not to your security.
Learn to fuck. Compete.
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Maurice, I’m interested in how you think, also. Is it that since he has fans he must be more than either insane or foolish?
Cause it seems as clear as tap water to me that he is deliberately both.
Good luck trying to get a straight answer out of a fool.
I just can’t figure out why you, Maurice, would expect one.
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“[editor: relax, everybody, she can’t threaten me in real life because she doesn’t know who i am, despite what she may think.]”
–you should have put this under Steve’s comment.
[editor: i can tell you’re really intrigued now, stalkergirl. don’t blame ya.]
However you care to spin it, it’s your show.
[no spin required. but you’re free to believe whatever you want. it’s a part of your blogosphere fantasy.]
Your buddy needs his ass kicked because he’s a douche bag, but you seem cool enough.
[i’ve got a lot of buddies who get ass-kicking threats.]
And asking any of the so-called mutiple authors of this blog to come clean about their age is NOT a threat.
[let me spell it out for you. the manor lords of the chateau owe you NOTHING. you will not be getting any inside info. you will not be getting any presumed satisfaction of having the writers “come clean”. you WILL be getting the ugly truth shoved in your face left, right, and upside the head. don’t like it? you can leave anytime.]
Is is because I’m a woman that it was read into as a threat?
[who cares? you’re no threat to any of the writers of this blog.]
Or do the idiots here just not have enough places to act out their hate and paranoia.
[you’re just now picking up that this place is a hellpit?]
Never have I seen men act this way in real life. Never do they spaz they way that so many of do here.
[we get all kinds here… skanks, sluts, bitterati, liars, dweebs, fembots, spergies, sadists, masochists, loners, losers, winners, womanizers, misandrist, misogynists, tards, lunatics, eunuchs, hags, schoolmarms, assholes, and soulshredders. you see those who’ve hurt you, and are blind to the rest.]
I really am disheartened by the lack of maturity and suaveness by the men here. Every time we turn around, somebody takes a thread to shit.
[beam, mote, eye.]
The pedestal I had you on has been successfully kicked out from under you. Poof. Gone.
[my heart will go on.]
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About Humor, some comedians have noted that all you have to do is sound as if you are funny to elicit a laugh. I forget the name of the old timey 50s TV comedian who was the first to use the ba-bing-boom drum sound after all his punchlines. Lenny something. He may have been the first to articulate this principle.
Acting like a clown makes a lot of people laugh. Oh – he’s acting funny! We’re all laughing now!
But not all of us have this response. We have the same response to the laugh track as to background noise.
There must many different types of humor. A lot of people find the tension between the public face and the private face a source of humor. Three’s Company is a show designed exclusively around this type of embarassment humor. Seinfeld is another. I find it childish and neurotic.
So even while GBFM may have some humorous images and the occasional note worthy thought, his presentation to me is as far from humor as is Three’s Company.
You’ll never pin him down on anything, and that is the reason I consider him more of a fool than a wit. He’s nothing but evasive. Which means you’ll never find any truth in there. Only sporadic insights loosely and insanely hung together.
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Oh, how sad Anouk! And here we had all been working so hard to build up your respect for us.
I hope the notion that we care has gone poof also.
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@Doug
Re sexual harassment, you wrote on Roissy’s June 15 thread as follows:-
Of course requiring sexual favors as a quid pro quo for work or not being fired should be illegal but not much more. There were already sexual assault laws so far as real groping goes
I specifically agreed with this at the time. Assuming that is still your view, I agree with it. No one should be compelled to trade sexual favours to keep their job or be promoted, or to be sexually assaulted (within the legal definition of that term generally) at work. But I’m not a fan of anything beyond this being laid down by law.
This by the way is not so that more people will flirt with me at work. I am actually self-employed, and so are the guys I meet at work, I don’t know how I omitted to make this point before, I must have been mesmerised or something.
It is because I feel that the current sexual harassment law is liable to exploitation, people can be framed (for other reasons) very easily, also, the complainant never benefits in the end, in most cases. Usually there is a third party pulling the strings, who benefits at the expense of both parties involved.
In fairness I should say that I have been lucky enough never to have experienced any sexual harassment which caused me any serious distress (there would be things that fell within the US legal definition of sexual harassment, but they would not have particularly upset me). If I did experience this, I think I would try changing my job or intervention by other means rather than involving a formal grievance procedure – I just don’t think it benefits the woman in the long run.
Obviously in the cases you mention, which are the extreme examples, one should stay and fight one’s ground. The idea of dismissal or promotion being linked to sexual favors is highly unfair. My views are however colored by my experience & observation, which may not be conclusive, and there may be other women who have different experiences and I would be interested in hearing their views and might even modify mine when I hear them.
I do think that the whole Fruitbatgate which recently took place in Ireland was disgraceful though. The gentleman in question may well have been a nuisance generally (I found the specific story about the bats quite funny myself, it would have livened up my day at work) but this was not a case in which a sexual harassment claim should have been made on the evidence as provided – particularly when no effort was made to resolve the issue informally first before invoking the grievance procedure.
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lozlzlzozozlzlzlzo
hey LILY!!! hey GIRLS ON THIS BOARD!!!
ANSWER ME!
lzozllz
riddle me this batmans.
why do women publish finance promote secrtive tapersof butthex who lie about their height?
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Kate wrote:
Not taking it personally? I scanned your comments on this thread: 14 posts containing nearly 1800 words, not counting others quotes. From here it appears you’re taking it personally. Why expend the time and energy to refute “people you know nothing about”?
You should get a hobby or something.
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x splat wrote,
“About butthex, some neocons have noted that all you have to do is sound as if you are funny to elicit an anal orgasm. I forget the name of the old timey 50s TV butthexer who was the first to use the ba-bing-boom drum sound after all his punchlines. Tucker something. He may have been the first to butthex this principle.
Acting like a butthexer makes a lot of people laugh. Oh – he’s acting butthexy! We’re all butthexer now!
But not all of us have this response. We have the same response to the butthex laugh track as to ginal sex noise.
There must many different types of butthex. A lot of people find the tension between the buthex face and the private face a source of humor. Three’s Company is a show designed exclusively around this type of buthex embarassment humor. Seinfeld is another. I find it childish and neurotic.
So even while GBFM may have some humorous images and the occasional note worthy thought, his presentation to me is as far from humor as is Three’s Company because ix splat have made so much more money off making people laugh than butthex.
You’ll never butthex him down on anything, and that is the reason I consider him more of a man than a butthexer. He’s nothing but evasive with his anus. Which means you’ll never find any cocks in there. Only sporadic insights loosely and insanely hung together like my cock and balls which no chick has seen in ten years.”
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@GBFM; I don’t get it.
Not even a chuckle. Not irritation. Nothing.
I
just
don’t
get
it.
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lozlzlzozozlzlzlzo
hey LILY!!! hey GIRLS ON THIS BOARD!!!
ANSWER ME!
lzozllz
riddle me this batmans.
why do women publish finance promote secrtive tapersof butthex who lie about their height?
I’d suspect it is because they think that other men & women who should know better will buy the butthexer’s books & go to films about the butthexer and make the butthexer’s publishers/financiers/promoters a lot of money.
Publishing is a commercial venture these days – it’s all about making money for the publisher, with no consideration of quality. Same with most films.
The days when a filmmaker or a publisher felt an obligation to ensure a certain quality of publication are gone. Look at most of the bestsellers that get published & films that get released these days, as opposed to the 60s.
It’s all about promotion of the image of the book/film & not about ensuring good content. An analogy could be drawn with Obama who also lacks content.
People need to stop buying crap books and going to crap movies if they want publishers to start focusing on quality again.
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You’re mistaken, Daed. There was never a golden era of publishing. 90% of everything sucks, because 90% of readers and writers suck.
Good writing may sometimes have large appeal, but unfortunately stupid people miss the nuances that make good writing stand out.
What has mass appeal will usually be shit.
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No, a lot of books were always crap, but the standard was a bit higher in the past, both in relation to books & films, than now. Chick lit has a lot to answer for imo. All the best books are out of print, also. I really have noticed a decline in my lifetime.
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Example: no mainstream publisher today would publish the Flashman books, by George MacDonald Fraser, because they would be seen as too politically incorrect. Fraser said this himself in his last interview before he died.
Other readers of this blog, if you haven’t read these books already, get hold of them, you will love them, Flashman is a creature of genius & 100% spot on on his analysis of women (I think he may actually comment on this blog occasionally).
The books also got watered down with time, although it’s hard to say whether or not this was because of pressure on Fraser from his publishers, or whether he just mellowed himself with age.
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They’d publish Tucker Max though, even though he is politically incorrect, because being illiterate, stupid and politically incorrect is fine, it’s when someone is politically incorrect in a literate perceptive and intelligent way that people start to get worried.
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Declining standards, huh?
All old fogeys throughout time have had the same complaint.
I assume you are making the same error of memory as the rest of us have. You just don’t remember how bad it used to be. That’s how memory works, thank the Great Spagetti Monster.
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GBFM – Money
sdaedalus – so true. Principled/Skilled filmakers, writers etc get very little in the way of $ these days.
Sdae I have a feeling YOU’d be very interested in the screenplay I’m working on…but Hollywood…not so much.
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SD,
I would agree with you that the standards for literature seemed higher in the past. Books that were popular in the past were also often very well written.
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its amazing to watch woman after woman attention whore around here and then flounce off in a tizzy when they realize no ones going to kiss their stupid asses because theyre a girl
really
like a trainwreck
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Laura
SD,
I would agree with you that the standards for literature seemed higher in the past. Books that were popular in the past were also often very well written with less secrtive tapings of butthex without the giltsh conthent, which is finacned, published, and promoted by qomenz who have ever been known to reduce all of higher culture to butthex and secrtiev tapings of butthex without teh girlths ocnthent which is why the fed funds women’z studies promgrams zlzolzzlo because they know they can count on you gals to whore around and butthex butthexers and then demand money form the betas, of which ben beranke and goldman sax rhymes iwth tucker max get a huge cut lzozlzozlzzozlzlzlzl.
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laura
the standards for literature for higher because all of the static g available in the populace concentrates in any new creative endeavor that exists at a given time. all possibilities are lost, a new field opens up–and the g flows there, leaving behind earthworm tunnels to be filled by lower iq imitators and johnny come latelies
cf. classical music, literature, rock music, film
all dying as the g flows to computer programming and video game design etc
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*were higher
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“sdaedalus
They’d publish Tucker Max though, even though he is politically incorrect, because being illiterate, stupid and politically incorrect is fine, it’s when someone is politically incorrect in a literate perceptive and intelligent way that people start to get worried.”
tucker max is not politcaikly incorrect at all.
he is t light and joy of simon and shcuster’s priscilla painton and the enocon’s weekly standardth.
becase he butthexes girlths and takepes it without the girths conthent he is the most policically correct man in the world.
he is toeing the bernanke butthex line laid down by the fed which must desoul debuach the culture and currency to convert mere fiat debt into physical property and wletah as tehy convince womenz to murder 50,000,000 unbron and divore tehir hsudabns and take tehir kids so that the divorce regime can transfer assetts to ben bernanke lzozlzozlzlzo
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dana,
That would make sense.
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lozlzozozl!!
some womenz gets it!!! (not charlotte allen and priscilla painton though lzolzlzoz who are tools of the fed)
”
Women knew how to save for rainy days, and they did. They knew how to keep pantries, and they knew what was needed for rainy days. They knew not to waste money — ever — and most didn’t. And women didn’t find or lift self-esteem with tanning booths, bleached teeth, make-up, day spas, workout routines and trainers, plastic surgery, interior decorators, designer clothing, chronic diets, body fat tabulations, and all the other media-implanted behaviors that damage females. Women didn’t take anti-depressants because their friends did or because tell-a-vision told them to get high. Women didn’t need magazines to tell them how to look and cook and feel.”
lozlozlzozozozo
and women didn’t publish finance promote secrteiev tapers of butthes without the girlths conthent lzozlzlolzlzz
“So much has gone into the re-creation of the roles of Westernized men and women that one hardly knows where to begin. But with all things strategically global, let us begin with the intent to eliminate the Christian religion, which is the basis of unalienable rights. The Christian religion suggests marriage and fruitfulness. Politicians, lobbyists, social scientists, and think tankers demand otherwise because they want far, far fewer of us to “manage.” Therefore, marriage has been discouraged and insulted, and reproduction has been chemically altered and limited while children have been aborted to the tune of hundreds of millions — globally — all this while reproductive licenses are “being considered,” and in other countries, reproduction is force-limited by law. Depopulation of the commoner is a very serious political business and intent of the world’s elite. When in doubt, consider Africa, AIDS, and uninterrupted genocide. Also consider the pathology of billionaire elites disallowing reproductive freedom for mankind — the billionaire elite who comprise maybe 1% of mankind. Should “they” be screened for mental illness?”
lozozozlzzol –http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/levant/070619
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About literature, if you are now reading available old titles, then you are not finding what was the pulp fiction of the time.
There was never an era that lacked pulp fiction or b movies. Most of everything is crap. It’s a law of nature. We needn’t be disappointed that people prefer crap. People are stoooooopid.
You’ll always find an elite that markets to an elite. An elite can not market to the stoooooopid and still create anything good.
Mass market appeal will kill off quality.
Dana’s point may hold merit though. The people at edge.org operate under the assumption that literature is dead and that the new frontier is a synthesis of science and down home language. They feel that narrative gets boring after a while.
That may be a general trend. Certainly in blog posts here, you won’t find much narrative.
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x splat…disagree that everything is crap. And good literature is not just for the “elite”.
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I think in the past many people read for pleasure and entertainment what is considered literature nowadays.
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WW – all literature is just for the elite.
Most people don’t read.
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word based fiction is a middle iq (90-115ish) and female prediliction
high iq (visuospatial and math skill set–not jew/female verbal) males gravitate to movies video games and comic books–VISUAL story telling, which of course in denigrated by the WORD obsessed cognitive elite
as more and more super high iq men are able to express their cultural preferences and control the culture, the written word as an art form may disappear entirely
note: all amazon kindle commercials are directed towards women
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Sure they do. They will do more and more reading as movies get more and more obvious with their brainwashing..
Plus…there’s fear the gov may shut down the net at some point…stock up on good books!
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xplat,
bs lower classes read low brow fiction like dean koontz, stephen king, twilight, whatever oprah recommends and the da vinci code
in droves
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Almost all literature is directed towards women, read by women, edited by women and designed for women.
This has been true for at least 50 years.
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“hey LILY!!! hey GIRLS ON THIS BOARD!!!
ANSWER ME!
lzozllz
riddle me this batmans.
why do women publish finance promote secrtive tapersof butthex who lie about their height?”
Apologies for the delay in my response, popped out for dinner.
I am afraid I have absolutely no idea, especially considering neither the book nor movie seem to appear particularly financially lucrative. Maybe Tucker Max hypnotised them into butthexing and then blackmailed them with his secret tapings?!
Though he seems to be whining they didn’t give him enough promotion (the phrase..bad workman..tools…springs to mind).
I’ve also just had a very quick look and neither AEG nor Simon & Schuster seem particularly female owned or dominated.
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Well my dad (RIP) who was born in the mid-30s, was certainly no Elite (blue collar actually)but he read the paper front to back everyday and knew everything! (ok, I exaggerate)
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My post with the links to pictures of Kylie Minogue now out of moderation – enjoy!
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My grandfather still reads the paper from front to back.
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^^^^^ lozlzozlzozlzozzl
“Gorbachev
Almost all literature is directed towards women, read by women, edited by women and designed for women.
This has been true for at least 50 years.”
correctaumndo
wehn men ran the publishing houses he got hemingway fitzgerald faulkner salinger hele hawthorne melvllee lozzlozlz
when women run things we get secreuev tapers of butthex without the girthls contehnt
lozlzozozozzll
still no women has answered me:
not one woman has answered me why it is that womenz ppwerful womenz:
1) love secretive tapers of butthex without the gi8lrths conthent
2) finance secretive tapers of butthex without the gi8lrths conthent
3) publish secretive tapers of butthex without the gi8lrths conthent
5) promote secretive tapers of butthex without the gi8lrths conthent
6) repeat the lies of secretive tapers of butthex without the gi8lrths conthent
7) take it up the butt from secretive tapers of butthex without the gi8lrths conthent
8) defend secretive tapers of butthex without the gi8lrths conthent while ignoring and forgetting ll teh true heors bleeding 2 death in tehir foriegn neocn warz on foreign shores.
dats all u really need 2 know when ur dealing with womenz lozlzozlolzllzozzllozlzlozlzl
caveat emptor !! lozllzlzlllzllz
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WW, you are very dumb, and partially insane. And boring. Why the hell do you post here? I’m sure 100% of the men here agree with me.
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@GBFM
tucker max is not politcaikly incorrect at all.
he is t light and joy of simon and shcuster’s priscilla painton and the enocon’s weekly standardth.
becase he butthexes girlths and takepes it without the girths conthent he is the most policically correct man in the world.
he is toeing the bernanke butthex line laid down by the fed which must desoul debuach the culture and currency to convert mere fiat debt into physical property and wletah as tehy convince womenz to murder 50,000,000 unbron and divore tehir hsudabns and take tehir kids so that the divorce regime can transfer assetts to ben bernanke lzozlzozlzlzo
I was using politically incorrect in the feminist sense, you were using it I think in the fiatist sense, sorry about not being more specific. I keep forgetting that although fiatism & fiatism often ride (sorry) together they are in fact separate doctrines.
That’s an interesting thought, that the publishers are fiatists & not just interested in making money. I don’t know enough about American publishing to say. There would be a test, though, and that would be whether or not they keep publishing Tucker if his books don’t sell, if so, this would be convincing proof of fiatism.
I still maintain, though, that the crop of new books each year is getting worse and worse. And although as a woman in my early 30s I may be an old fogey in terms of female fertility & beauty, I’m probably not in book-buying terms. I know very few people my age, apart from me, who actually read any fiction apart from chick-lit, Dan Brown & Edward the Vampire, quite a few people though do read a lot of high-quality non-fiction.
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sorry, that should read “although fiatism and feminism often ride together they are in fact separate doctrines”
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Dana – lower classes read low brow stuff. Ok, sure. Any stats on what percentage of lower class people read anything at all?
I was under the impression that reading is not a popular past time, and that it is less so for the less intelligent. The more intelligent, the more likely to read, and the more likely to read stuff that isn’t crap.
Good books are elitist.
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xsplat,
WW is clearly not dumb or insane. What are you talking about?
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Laura, are you a man?
All MEN here will agree with me.
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x splat
lower classes doesnt mean underclass
lets be clear with our terms–if youre saying the underclass doesnt read–yes, im talking about the “lower than upper class”
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sdaedalus
sorry, that should read “although fiatism and feminism often ride together they are in fact separate doctrines”
lozlzozozozlzzooz GET WITH TH FUCKING PRGRAM!!! lzozlzozozl
fiatism = feminsims
feminismis how teh fiat masters enslave men to the system
as men mker/create/work create rela welath, the fiat masters wire fiat dollars to women to tanfer wealth from men to the fiat masters and they call this work
same thing for teh divorce regime
same thing for fiat crhsitianity fiat conservatims fiat liberalism
it is all united
in transferring wealth from teh honest good working man to the fiat masters
even if it means butthexing the man’s wife in a sectrieve asscocking session so as to take out her soul and make her loal to ebrnke and the fed instead of her husband.
fiatism = feminsims
http://www.pronatal.org/2006/07/11/aaron-russo-feminism-the-rockefellers-the-federal-reserve/
Here is my transcript of what film producer Aaron Russo said in his video interview regarding feminism, the Rockefellers, the federal reserve and how they all fit together. This is as blatantly simple as it gets folks.
“I was friendly with one of the Rockefellers, ok, and he said to me one day which blew my mind:
He said: Aaron, remember that whole thing about women’s lib when it was the biggest thing in all the magazines, in television: women lib! women have a right to work and a right to vote! and you make sure you have a right to work and they fight for womens lib and a woman’s right to work.
He says: We were promoting that whole thing! You know the council on foreign relations, the federal reserve, because we wanted to get the women into the work force! We wanted to be able to tax them! That’s why you saw it in the newspapers all the time. And the end plus was, then they had to put their kids in child care. Into schools early so we could control their minds at a young age. That’s what that was all about. You called it women’s lib you know. But it was about giving us control!
We are dealing with very diabolical people, very devious diabolical people who are incredibly intelligent, who control the money supply, they control the government… and it is very hard to stop them… the way to do it is to stop the federal reserve system…”
This whole narration is just 1 minute around the 19th minute of the video interview in the Aaron Russo interview regarding his upcoming film Freedom to Fascism.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3254488777215293198
http://www.pronatal.org/2006/07/11/aaron-russo-feminism-the-rockefellers-the-federal-reserve/
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Truth is in the eye of the beholder.
Conclusion, from the myriad of thoughts that one comes across on this blog, they have one thing in common, no one would listen to personal and/or insane and/or generally mean stories openly in daytime, not even mine, mostly i share some beliefs here and there, but this whole thread is one big disorganized orchestra, i guess the main composer is amused upon his creation, nevertheless, take it with a pinch of salt, it doesnt matter if you are less insane then others here, we all share the same curiousity, some take it just more serious then others.
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What makes you think I’m a man? I’m curious.
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@Laura
Don’t take it personally (women tend to internalise things), it’s nothing to do with you.
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Dana, yes or no:
1) Are smarter people the elite?
2) Do smarter people tend to read more?
3) Do smarter people tend to read smarter books?
I don’t consider the elite to be equated with those in financial power. I consider them to be the smart capable people with influence. More all around smart is more all around elite.
Quality books are elitist.
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God, you are dumb as a brick, Laura.
I didn’t say you were a man.
Dolt.
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x splat The fact that you need to cite that 100% of the men here agree with you seems a little beta to me.
GBFM is the mannliest man here.
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GBFM rocks
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Books….”dean koontz, stephen king, twilight, whatever oprah recommends and the da vinci code”
People are looking for answers. Unfortunately, they’re looking in the wrong direction.
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lotsa cocka for da ladies!!!
see priscialla painton and charlotte allen and fed funded feminsits love tucker max as his name rhymes with goldman sax and they hate on me because i stick up for the women who are getting miseled, deouled assocked and secretely taped in secretiev taping of butthex seessions whil e the cherubic faced jonah goldberg shouts for more foreign wars on fiat shores lzozlzlzzolzlzlzlzlzolzozozolozlzozzlzlzo
tucker max is a creation of teh fiat feminsit movment and his main purpose is to deosul women in sectreiv tapings of buthex so that women can be programed by the state more eaisly to transfer assets from futur e husbands lzozlzozozlzo but the problem is that the ifat masters fait currency is breaking down to its itnstrinsic worth of zero lzozlzzlzozozlzozo and so all the girls get out of it these days it just sore anuthes and cats.
yeah sure it was a fun wave to ride when you could get a husband kids and his assetss, bt now womenz are just getting sore asses. the short end of the stick so sto speak in tehir anuth lzozlzozozlozzlzozlzlzllzz
so evn some women are startingto question the purpose of priscilla paitnton and charlottel allen champioining bernanke’s deosuling butthexing program from teh major magazines such as teh weekly staandath and the major publsihig houes usch as simon sodom and shcuster shceistster lzozzlozlzlzlozozlzl
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WW – the fact that you are unappreciated by all the men here on this blog does not have anything to do with my social status.
It has to do with how stupid and insane you are.
No men like you here. I don’t like you. Go away, you boring, stupid waste of space.
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white women
the fundamental error people make is to distinguish between religion and fiction
there is no difference between looking for answers in the fictional literature of the worlds major religions and looking for them in twilight
fiction doesn’t teach us anything about the nature of reality
science does
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Whatsamatter Splat? You’re making a fool of yourself.
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maybe another one of his “little brown fucking machines” kicked the bucket
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Dana, I don’t think science isn’t far enough along yet to tell the whole story…I’m a patient woman though.
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but literature is
gotcha
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Lily,
Kylie Minogue has certainly managed to maintain a youthful appearance throughout the years. I still tend to agree with R about women’s appearance through the stages of their lives. I probably looked the best in college, held up pretty well through my 20’s and early 30’s and unfortunately in my mid 30’s now I am starting to show some real signs of age. I think there are plenty of very attractive women in their early 30’s, even if they aren’t quite as youthful looking as when they were younger. My 30 year old neighbor is beautiful, likely because she has remained very slender. It’s probably just that men know the younger ones are going to look better for longer.
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@greatbooksformen
You’re really making me feel like I’ve missed out in life!
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I don’t know much about White Woman. I think I read once that she thinks white people should breed amongst themselves, which is fine with me, if that is her belief.
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“dana
white women
the fundamental error people make is to distinguish between religion and fiction
there is no difference between looking for answers in the fictional literature of the worlds major religions and looking for them in twilight
fiction doesn’t teach us anything about the nature of reality
science does”
fucktard fiction mythology teaches us about our MYTHOLOGICAL REALITY!!!!!!
which is just as real as science for us humans and maybe even more real lzozlzlzlzlzl
but all the berankified shix run in screaming tat religion isa lie and then they wake up with sore anuthes and a bunch of cats lzozlzozlozlzlz
just like if you thought gravity was a lie you would fall on your ass and wake up with a sore ass lzozlzozllzzllzozoz
so by discounting either sceience or religion you wake up with a sore butt.
lzozlzozlzlzlzlz
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@Laura
What do you think of Kylie at 21 and younger versus Kylie at 31?
For more pics of her young, google image Kylie Minogue + Charlene.
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Dana…I don’t think all the answers are knowable yet…you probably already know that though.
I just find all the interest (in literature) into the spirital realm very interesting.
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White Woman seems pretty socially conservative, which may be why xsplat doesn’t like her.
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“Lily
@greatbooksformen
You’re really making me feel like I’ve missed out in life!”
missed out on what? lzozlzozlzozlzozzozlzozlzlzoz
butthex issn’t alll its cracked up 2 be no matter how much money the ifat publishing neooncons back it with zlozzlzoz back it with lzozozlz as in butthex lzozlzl
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The women who post on this blog ought to re-evaluate their contributions. A lot of you are a net negative here.
Please each female poster, consider the feedback that you get here.
Some of you get consistently good feedback. Some get consistently negative feedback and are labelled as stupid and insane often. Not in those words, exactly, but close enough.
WW – has any male ever made any positive comment for any of your posts?
Lily and Laura – I don’t read your posts, so I don’t know if they are good or not. That I don’t read them may be a sign that they aren’t worth reading. Do men reply to your posts in appreciation much?
Girls – go away if you not helpful.
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@greatbooksformen
Why the lotsa cocka, the butthexing and the taping and the masses of fiat dollars of course. I don’t even have a cat 😦 Always been more of a dog person. The Player wanted to go off to buy a kitten this morning but I said I would think about it. What do you think, yes or no? Will owning a cat make me desouled without even having the lotsa cocka experiences?
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Lily you are already pretty much deosuled s easy 2 tell as one o the signs is that in every post youtry to bring us down to your level rather than exalting us lzozlzozlzozlzl
i am sorry ben bernanke tcuker max regime deosuled you in lotsa late night hottie tootes sessions and inyour college casses but that don’t mean that we men have to listen to you pratle or pay your bills lzozlozlzlzlzlzlzlzlz so like if you left this bolg 4ever that would be fun tahnks in advance for moving on to join thedeosuled elsewehere lzozlzozlzlzl
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“high iq (visuospatial and math skill set–not jew/female verbal) males ”
What, you’re buying into the Stormfront meme too?
Since when aren’t Jews overrepresented as mathematicians?
I grant that Jewish visuospatial ability is probably average, but non-verbal IQ is more than visuospatial ability — more importantly it’s non-verbal abstract reasoning (matrix reasoning,) and I’m fairly confident Jews excel at it as much as they do at verbal reasoning. You need it to build theories, and the overrepresentation among eminent physicists is all the proof that I need in that regard.
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Unlike you Spatter, I don’t need constant pats on the back or group consensus on my opinion in order to keep giving it.
Wow…my bitch shield is up. Are you hitting on me?
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Seeing a posting by GBFM is a welcomed sight. It tells me I can skip reading it with 100% certainty that I will miss nothing. Because they all say the same thing. zlzlzlz
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Lily,
I think she looks comparatively pretty in both the 21 and the 31 year old pictures, but it’s hard to base an opinion on two pictures. I do know for a fact many of these pictures of older movie stars are airbrushed and that in person they probably look much closer to their actual age. A 31 year old woman shouldn’t have too many wrinkles yet, so I imagine there was no need to airbrush that one. I base my opinions more on the woman I see in real life rather than movie stars. The older I get the better people younger than me look in general, as long as they aren’t obese. That’s why I won’t say a 31 year old woman isn’t pretty just because she isn’t 20 anymore.
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“Rum
Seeing a posting by GBFM is a welcomed sight. It tells me I can skip reading it with 100% certainty that I will miss nothing. Because they all say the same thing. zlzlzlz”
hey fucktard if you read my psost you’d learn how 1 spell lzozlzollzlzlzlzzlozlzozlzozozozozllzozlzlzlz assiper lzozlzl
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No, Laura, I don’t like WW because she is stupid and insane. Or didn’t I mention that?
There are conservative male posters here who I have fundamental disagreements with who I appreciate a great deal.
It’s the stupidity I hate.
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Laura..thanks for the defense but could you puh-lease top prattiling on about Kylie Minogue? Seriously.
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In other words, you are socially oblivious.
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I personally find this whole discussion about women’s appearance very boring. It’s just that Lily asked me a question, so I answered it.
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No-I’m just not a coward.
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too many of you dudes are alloowing chix to bring other COCKS into your mind lozlzlzzoz zlozllzl. The second a chick makes me think of another cock she is outta my house outta my mind or if she’s texting on a date which almost never happens because i almost never date i go “i gotta use the men’s room lzozlzl” and then i leave her with the bill. she can text her ten other cocks to comne over and pay for her drniks/dinner lzozlzlzllzlzlz and then,. after paying, they have full right to gizizizizizalizzz all over her lzozlz
“I’ve been seeing this girl for a year. We live together and I’ve still got hand.”
OMG lzozzlzll wtf are fuckity fucks doing with chix in your homes? lzozlzlzlz omg lozlzlzlzlzl looozers lzozlzlzlz1!! hzhzh
THEY VIOLATE THE ONE COCK RULE THEY ARE OUT! OUT!
OUT!
O U T OUT! lzozlzlzl
OMG lozlzlzozlozozolzl wft r u doing dating a chick 4 a yer did your dick fall off? Were yu chosen by Beernanke and given an award and medal to support today’s slutty slutt vampiressses cuckholders cockcutters?
sounds 2 me it is the latter as u have no cock lzozlzlzlzl lzzozl
and she made you think of another cock
fucktard haven’t u heard of the one cock rule?
hey roissy yo!! let’s teach these douches somethin ’bout nbein a man yo!
throw a beat over this way.
yo yo yo yo
yo yo yo
now hit it!
one cock rule one cock rule
i ain’t no beta fool i ain’t no beta tool
about another cock ya make me think
i’m gone, yo bitch,
let the betas buy yas yer next drink
one cock rule one cock rule
i ain’t no beats fool i ain’t no beta tool
over vampires and werewolfe you ginas all drool
letting their cocks touch your deep down stool
then you blame the betas in school
and transfer wealth for the bernanke gene pool
jonah goldberg sends our alphas 2 die on foreign shores
stuffing his face with dc pizza as they die in fiat wars
neocon womenz repeating butthexers lies in their mags
even after menopause and no need for da ragz
telling young chickas to lust after vampires
as they build their fiat empires
one cock rule one cock rule
i ain’t no fool i ain’t no tool
about another cock ya make me think
i’m gone, yo bitch,
let the betas buy yas yer next drink
let the betas pay to raise your bastard kids
let the betas sign teh fiat masters marriage contracts
theft in fiat inflation is hid
as they swing their bankrupting axe
i don’t care what last night u did,
ever since i kicked ya gina out, i been relaxed.
as they promote butthex across the land
ripping out fetuses from parenthood planned
as fathers form teh homes the neocons ban
the atalnatic authoresses just don’t undertsand
but when chix wakes up and her butt is sore
it’s not my fault no–it’s cause she’s a whore
as the fiat masters desoul women with butthex cock
teach them to transfer wealth with pre-teen strumpet rock
one cock rule one cock rule
i ain’t no fool i ain’t no tool
about another cock ya make me think
i’m gone, yo bitch,
let the betas buy yas yer next drink
womenz womenz bernanke took advanatge of you
you wasted your best years on vampires and werewolves
and now you cry your tears cause of your sore anus
stamp your little feet saying, “you betas must pay for this!!!”
and aging neocon women promoting butthexing vampires
teacxhing women to lust after the undead
as the neocons suck the western world dry
bankrupting it all,m enlsaving it debt
while selfish womenz at the atalnatic monthly
cry cry cry
cry cry cry
not for you or me
but for themselves
not for the 50,000,000 aborted souls
but for their dried up ginas and sore assholes
so many chances they had to marry a nice guy
but he left her dry
so whe butthexed with the asshole
and now see her cry
and wonder why
and transofrm the entire univeristy
into a program to further the fiat lie
to transfer wealth and wage war and death
to about fifty million more
and redefine fifty cocks in her ass as empowered
and not a whore
all together now!
lzozllzzl lozlzlz zlozozoz
lozlzl lzozozlz ozlzooz zlo9oo
lozlzlz ozlzoozl ozlzlzoz lzozlz zlzoz zlzozzlozlzozlo
one cock rule one cock rule
i ain’t no fool i ain’t no tool
about another cock ya make me think
i’m gone, yo bitch,
let the betas buy yas yer next drink
alreayd seen yer pink stink
bent ya over the sink
and howscomes the bankers southpark never does satarize
because everything is fair game–truth love honor–excpet for fiat butthexing lies.
all together now!
lzozllzzl lozlzlz zlozozoz
lozlzl lzozozlz ozlzooz zlo9oo
lozlzlz ozlzoozl ozlzlzoz lzozlz zlzoz zlzozzlozlzozlo
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To Stormfront Jew-haters:
1) Albert Einstein
2) Lev Landau
3) Richard Feynman
Now go get your shineboxes.
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too many hoes up in here
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Chuck’s back:
http://glpiggy.wordpress.com/2010/07/21/the-paradox-and-passion-a-reading-from-david-foster-wallace/
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Jews! Jews!
Mosquito bites = because of Jews!
Jews!
Jews!
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Jews!
Jews!
Jews!
Also black people.
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peoples like moses jesus einstein all rock
so saaad the neocns hate on them and are repalcing them iwth tucker max the secrteiev taper of butthex taper without teh gilrths conthent lzozlzoozl while removing moses;s’ ten commandmants and volating moses’s ten commandmants by stealing via the inflation tax. lzozl the fiat masters tcuker maxers hate moses jesus lzozlzllz
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No haters here. I do love MY people though.
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i mentioned jews in the verbal category of intelligence due to their massive overrepresentation in fields that require verbal dexterity–ie, law, comedy
while jews are also represented in maths and visuospatial skill set occupations, other ethnes who are overrepresented in those fields are NOT also overrepresented in the VERBAL realm
there was no “hating” involved–though i understand that now, and i guess in perpetuity, all mention of ethnospecific talents is to be regadrd as hate
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i luvs you allls o ye of little faith
to all the spinsters with cats
who teh fed tricked into spinsterhood/serving debt lxolllozlzl
to all the fanboys in ther single mom’s basements
whose dads they never knew because the fed tookawy fatehrhood lzozlzl
to all the broken familes
who were split up by the need to make two salaries to feed the kids
to all aging necon womenz celeberating secretive tapings of butthex without teh girlths conthent lzozllzlzozlzl they tircked you too
to all the spinster chix again i am sorry they sdesouled you
in asscokcing sessins drugged you up on prozac
told you to abort your kids no wonder your’re d[pressed and all fucjked up no lozlzlzlzling here
my heart goes out to you while tucker max & goldman sax laugh zlzolzlzl
too all the aborted fetushes we ask for forgiveness we deserve not and to all those tricked into aborting the gift of life lzozllzllzl we forgive u too and pray for teh fethuses, but not in school as prayer is illegal in school lozlzllzlz
to all those inthe rising genertaion who will have to pay off their parents cultural and monetary debts lzozlz war isn’t fun but it’s part of teh fed’s fiat bubble cycle lzozlzllz so like after th e country goes bust the war starts in the ultimate pump and udmp scheme you thought enron/worldcom/fannae mae was bad lolzozlzlz just you wait lzozlzlll i hope not and ai pray for peace lozlzlz maybe we can all learn to live and get along but i think we would have to start with truth and nobility and honor and ocurage and virtue and not with fiat debt and butthex lozlzlzl that’s just nmy gues from reading heroduts and the great boooks and classis in greek and latin zlzolzllzlzl
and the bible too about sodom and gomorroah did yuknow taht sodomycame form sodom and gonnoreah came from gommroah? lzozllz kidding about that second one i doubt it did but maybe who knows i have never had eitehr sodomy nor gonorreah and i ahve never been to sodom nor gomoorrah
sodom must;ve been a funny place lzolzlozolllzzll and a crazy party or two and the editor in chiefstress priscilla painton at simon and schuster would have fit right in publishing tucker max’s books yah i betin gmorrah they had a tower of babel with the ofices of simon and schuster at the top across the hall form the fed lzozlzlzllzlzlzlzllzlzlz
sometimes i wonder if poets and prophets can still change the world?
or have they trainde too, too many women to hate, and dumbed down and drugged up too many menz? have they destoryed too many fathers and killed to many families? have the y deocnstructed tyoo many books and spilled too much blood and aborted too many fetuthes as one is one too many. have they prescribed ritalin to too many cretaive sols in chool in prozac to too many who need to be depressed and face it when they abort fetuses as god gave us feelings and makes us not pay attention to boring stae corproate teachers as all creativity comes from not paying attention to the state lzozlzzll and now it is diagnoses as a diseas lzozlzlz.
lozlzlzzlzl
well juust wanted to say i luv u all and nice 2 know ya and welcomes abords lzozlzl
and 2 asnwer my own above questions
let me jsut say
teh great books
wouldn’t be great
if they weren’t immortal
and they offer us redemption
the moment we start living by tehir ideasl
and epic higher stories
so put down your hate and your secretive butthex tape
and pick up a cross
and come follow me
and let me shoulderyour burden
for my yoke is light
dante wrote la vita nuova–the new life
and it is time 4 u to find your new life
for to loseth one’s old way is to fuind the new path
so do not fear
lozlzlzlzlzlz omg wtf am i saying lzozlzlz
i almost blew my cover here as teh messiah lzozlzllll i hide it beind all my lzozlzllzlzlzlzlzlzlles but a couple of you ahve caught on lzozlzlzlzllzlzl
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Go be brave amongst people whome you don’t bore.
It’s unkind to bore people, and you are tedious.
You are completely incapable of addressing the thought processes of men, as expressed here, in any competent way.
You don’t merely have disagreeing opinions. You have stupid opinions that can’t be backed up by any rhetorical means that matter to men.
And you are completely oblivious to this.
Why are you here? To chat with the other girls?
You girls should also stop chatting amongst yourselves.
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x splat
perhaps when you become the moderator or proprietor of this blog someone will care if you think they should post here
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I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Shouts of “hate”, “racist!” “bigot” and so on our aimed at the White/European race 99% of the time. What’s know as anti-racism is actually anti-White propaganda.
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That’s it Dana. Foster more obliviousness. It’s just me who feels this way and says this, over and over and over to WW.
Uh huh.
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@Xsplat,
You once asked me about sarcasm and understatement, and I believe you coined a new term: undercasm.
I think Roissy’s response to Anoukange above is a good example of undercasm:
my heart will go on.
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@White Woman
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Shouts of “hate”, “racist!” “bigot” and so on our aimed at the White/European race 99% of the time. What’s know as anti-racism is actually anti-White propaganda.
Because, as we all know, all black / hispanic / Asian people want to miscegenate white people * into oblivion. Because they hate us.
White people don’t propagate anti-racist or racialist lies. Just the bad folk.
* Not Jews. Jews are the Devil.
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Bringing black slaves to America has permanently poisoned all ethnic identity and ethnic perceptions in this country.
All we can think about is Whiteness Versus Anything Else.
– As if there was ever a “white culture”.
Every time we’re asked to indicate our ethnicity, options are: White/Black/Asian/East Asian/Pacific Islander/Native.
These are races. Not ethnicities. In fact, they obscure actual ethnicity.
Everything in America is race, race, race, race.
We’ve become obsessed with race to the point of all else.
Race is the entirety of American social study. All of this, including the general categorization, is a result of the discomfort blacks and whites have had as a result of slavery and its eventual abolition.
Pro racialism, anti-racialism, anti-racist affirmative action, racist affirmative action, race, race, race.
No other Western society is as self-consumedly obsessed with race and racialism – either absolute denial of it or absolute exaggeration of it – as our society is obsessed.
We even descend into absurdity when we then apply the “race” label to Hispanics, who cross all kinds of racial boundaries internally as a group. It’s malarky to use race as a cultural moniker most of the time, triply so when used to look at Hispanics.
I don’t, and have never, identified Whites as my “group”. I know for a fact that I have more culturally in common with a black man who went to the same school as me than I do with a bleach-white French man or a Spanish-pure-blood Mexican.
Being proud of your own race. WTF?
Be proud of yourself. If some white guy wins a competition, it reflects absolutely not at all on you.
White people or black people are not your group.
Even cursory social observations of American society make this obvious. Only racial obsessions deny this.
It’s hopelessly sad we can’t see past this.
And then there’s this gut-level, hallucinogenic conspiracy-mad mistrust and hatred of Jews. Or Gypsies.
Even the anti-racist crowd can’t talk about any of this shite honestly.
Seriously, we’re so fucked about this subject few can address anything honestly almost all of the time. And no-one ever appears to be interested in social solutions – just spiteful blaming. Of course, this is true for every issue.
I just feel sad for people who have so few personal accomplishments that they have to identify with their Race, which doesn’t even have anything to do with their culture, for which there might be some claim for identity.
It’s one thing if a majority or powerful minority is oppressing you and obliging you to identify with a Race against your will; then it’s a form of resistance.
But for white people in this country – even with the lefty government regime, this is not Nazi Germany and you’re not Jews.
And for black people – it’s not 1885.
Seriously, as a nation, we need to grow the fuck up.
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Gorb,
Never said ALL black / hispanic / Asian people want to miscegenate white people * into oblivion, because they hate us.
Actually White people DO propagate anti-racist lies. WNs use words like suicidal and traitors for them.
Never said Jew are the devil. Stop lying.
Loving Europeans/Whites doesn’t mean I hate anyone.
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DArn, youll on this race crap again???
Jeez
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gorb
whiteness first primarily expressed itself in the colonies in reaction to the indians, not blacks
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Gorb, why are you so hostile to white survival?
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I was color blind until I realized that White/Europeans are the only ones that are. We’ve been taking it on the chin for our people’s mistakes and sin for decades, as if people “of color” had never done anything wrong.
The “White Guilt”industry has overplayed its hand and we’re waking up.
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I think White Woman is right on the color blind issue. Different groups almost always show favoritism to their own, but white people are not allowed to do this. I’ve noticed this many times in my own life.
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sdaedalus-
Yeah that’s still my view and you’re a bit of alright, you are.
Continuing harassment sexual or otherwise can and should be dealt with by management on a case by case basis.
The situation now in the US, where lots of flirting goes on and women enjoy lots of it, and a good lot of office flings and romances also go on, but where women often hold great power if they feel like making a fuss or take revenge for the guy moving on, is totally unfair.
It’s widely felt as unfair too, esp. I’d say by higher betas. Who predominate in professional jobs.
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gorbachev is just one of those losesr who can’t agrue logically and just screams cries and yells lzozlzlzllzlzlz
hey looooozer go away and play at som other blog withall you h8 for truth and beuaty lzozlzllzl you desouled dfedsexed lzozlolzlz loozer zloz
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Gorbechev–
We even descend into absurdity when we then apply the “race” label to Hispanics, who cross all kinds of racial boundaries internally as a group. It’s malarky to use race as a cultural moniker most of the time, triply so when used to look at Hispanics.
That was done by the left – the affirmative action lobby, in order to give “Hispanics” who were also lagging in schools and income, help at white expense also. Esp. white male expense since there’s also been affirmative action of various kinds for women as well over the last four decades or so.
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Gorbachev and Cannon’s Canon
Why do you both hate Jewish people so much? Or is it just a weird joke that I’m not getting?
So much hate! *sigh* 😦
I love Jewish people, and blacks, and chinese, and whites, and blues, and pinks too!
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I’ve never understood the “White Pride” mantra but have recently realized that after being demoralized all these years, White/Europeans DO need to be reminded of the good parts of our (glorious!) history, so they can hold their heads up again and not participate in their own demise.
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SD There will be no group hug, not even a distance one, I’m afraid. End of story.
So let me get this str8, you’re mad at me, chic noir? Why?
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White woman- george washington ran 😦
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@ chic noir
Yes, madness ensues yet again.
I did try the topic back on women, beauty and ageing but well you know *shrugs*
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WW, that whats the stupidest video i have ever seen. Srsly.
[editor: maybe, but it’s kinda true.
on another note, why do WN spokesmen so frequently speak with a GHEY lilt.]
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Why would George Washington run? Because I love my race?
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Why is Solschenitsyn in that vid btw, i think he would object. As would Michelangelo.
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xsplat–
STFU
You’re getting out of hand.
I like having some girls on this board and talk to most or all of them from time to time, by no means always critically.
No one’s appointed you grand poooo baahhh around here.
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Editor: Because they have to speak slowly and gently to demoralized White/Euros in order to not frighten them away.
Any gruffness would be attributed to Hate(TM).
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WW- it was war and he panicked or was afriad.
lololololz Lol. Tim is Chic. Chic is Tim
Not true sir
doug- cheap journalism runs the game. We want it faster, we don’t care if all the facts are really facts.
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So Doug, it neither irritates nor bores you when the girls talk amongst themselves about topics unrelated to this blog?
Sure, I’m not grand poobah. Neither are you. My discontent will be voiced – for whatever it’s worth.
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But Doug, if you want to disagree with my contention that WW is a trollish idiot, please do so.
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Xsplat-
you could always join in. As an international alpha, you should understand female behavior. it may irritate you but the absence of said behavior should be more freighting 😯
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My motivation for conversation with women would either be
1) the same motivation I have for conversation with men, or
2) to fuck them.
If neither criteria is met, it’s boring to me. You don’t see men joining in with girl talk much, do you?
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a good lot of office flings and romances also go on, but….women often hold great power if they feel like making a fuss or take revenge for the guy moving on, is totally unfair.
It’s widely felt as unfair too, esp. I’d say by higher betas. Who predominate in professional jobs.
Yes, this is very unfair, and I can see how it would happen and why a man would want to avoid this situation at all costs. Thank you for pointing it out. Being self-employed, I had not really understood the extent of problems which might arise for men who flirted at work. I still maintain, however, that a friendly smile (even a half-smile or a distant nod) would not kill any of the other self-employed men I meet in my daily grind. They don’t even need to make eye contact (being on the shy side myself, eye contact is not my strong point).
I think dating people who work closely with you is probably not a good idea irrespective of the sexual harassment issue because it’s hard to maintain a relationship in such situation (and the break-up could also be difficult) but with people spending most of their time at work I can understand how it could happen. If people work in a different area of the company or organisation it is less of a problem.
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chic noir–
So let me get this str8, you’re mad at me, chic noir? Why?
Naaahhh. She wasn’t mad at you. Just wasn’t into the group solidarity thing, is how I read it.
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@meee!!!
Gorbachev and Cannon’s Canon
Why do you both hate Jewish people so much? Or is it just a weird joke that I’m not getting?
So much hate! *sigh* 😦
I love Jewish people, and blacks, and chinese, and whites, and blues, and pinks too!
Didn’t you know?
Jews are the root of all evil. Whenever anything happens that hurts a White Person, it can ultimately be traced back to Jews.
Not just a particular Jew: Jews.
Don’t believe me? Open your eyes young one, open your eyes.
When someone’s wallet is stolen, believe me, I guarantee you that there’s a Jew within at least 20 miles. See? Don’t you see the connection?
Jews!
Jews!
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GBFM
Thank you for clarifying the relationship between fiatism and feminism. I would see feminism as a pawn of fiatism insofar as the feminists usually don’t realise that they are marching to a fiatist drum. I think feminism pre-dated fiatism but that the fiatists cleverly decided to harness it to the fiatist cause. It’s a very fine distinction, but that’s the point I was trying to make when I said they were separate doctrines.
In relation to Tucker Max, I see that he hasn’t proved a very good financial bet but his publishers still seem interested. This only leaves fiatism, raw sexual attraction or butthex as the explanation for his continuing book deals. Although I agree with you that Tucker is shorter than he says, he is still a personable looking fellow. I don’t find him sexually magnetic though.
I’m still not quite sure what butthex is but I suspect that even if you explained what it was I probably wouldn’t have enough personal experience of it to express a view on whether or not this was the reason for his book deal. I know you do everything differently in the US, including sex.
Subject to the above I would have to go with fiatism as the reason for Tucker’s success. It’s probably a bit much to ask, but am I right or wrong on this?
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But Doug, if you want to disagree with my contention that WW is a trollish idiot, please do so.
I agree with what she has to say a fair bit. I don’t detect much race hate in her. I do think she focuses on race issues rather single mindedly around here, but not completely so.
I think what she’s really obsessed with is the very one sided PC strictures on whites in this country these days and I think she’s got a point.
There have been male posters around here who’ve shown far more race obsession and done it in a much more hateful way.
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Gorbachev–
Jews are the root of all evil. Whenever anything happens that hurts a White Person, it can ultimately be traced back to Jews.
Not just a particular Jew: Jews.
Don’t believe me? Open your eyes young one, open your eyes.
When someone’s wallet is stolen, believe me, I guarantee you that there’s a Jew within at least 20 miles. See? Don’t you see the connection?
Jews!
Jews!
Are you Jewish?
You sure are obsessed with anti-Semitism, and consider something that not just when there’s hate filled exaggeration, but when the central position of Jews in creating and maintaining PC taboos is talked about.
BTW, why did Jews lead SWLP liberal protestants in an alliance to do that? Because of Jewish blood deep and almost universal within the ethnicity fear of anti Semitism particularly after the Holocaust, and the propensity of their elite WASP allies to not want to seem ethnocentric. And thus appear more noble and admirable than the hoi poli.
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@chicnoir
SD There will be no group hug, not even a distance one, I’m afraid. End of story.
So let me get this str8, you’re mad at me, chic noir? Why?
No, I’m not mad at you, although you did threaten me with a knife earlier, for flirting with Default (see above).
Doug is right. I just didn’t feel like a group hug. We two can do a distance hug if you like (out of knife-range).
PS: you still haven’t explained how you knew Tim was going to apologise 17 minutes before he did so. You can answer on my blog if you like.
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Why are you obsessed with Jews Gorb? Are you Jewish?
A lot of anti-White sentiment seems to stem from places where a lot of Jews hang out but White/Euros have done themselves plenty of harm as well due to their lack of knowledge regarding White/European Genocide.
Btw, lest anyone think I’m exaggerating calling this a genocide, know that International Law not only recognizes race but specifically states that an action does not have to be violent to be considered genocide.
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In other words Saddam Hussein could not use the argument at his Tribunal for attempt of Genocide of the Kurds that the Kurds were just a Social construct right?
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Gorbachev–
And yeah I realize WW is probably a white nationalist. But she seems to be of the better sort. Not everything they say is wrong. I don’t go along with racial purity stuff though, at all.
As well I agree with you that culture is more important, generally. But I don’t agree that race doesn’t matter at all. But look, I like to see what’s actually true in the world, not argue or think deductively from a few simple principles.
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Xsplat-
you betas & herbs need to listen to this too. I’ma bout to teach ya youngins somthing.
*chic noir puts on plaid 1970’s suede elbow patched blazer with sleeves stiffer than a 17 year old male’s am woody. *
copy the ways of dougI daper alpha poon taper hummm. When the women folk are here flapping their gums and the betas sit around like harried husbands whispering “yes dears” with broken spirits and pelvis from playing ride the horsey with 300 pound ball busting fem cuts.
*chic noir adjusts monocle*
Doug will strut into the box while the women are speaking giperish and direct the attention to himself with ease. He’s so sly with it that the women don’t realize what he’s done.
The only person who could match him in smoothness was mu/obs and I guess that’s the reason those two couldn’t get along, cause they were each other’s biggest competition but that is neither here nor there. The point is mimic the greats. Here you can practice on women with ease cause there is no need to be embarrased. We can’t see you. Each and everyone one of you can be an adonis like epoxy
Oh, and calibrate with the women here. You should know our personalites by now and that some are more sensitive, caustic and respond to certain types of behaviors more than others. Let that be your guide in how you approach.
*chic noir pats the back of each beta*
Now go and be great betas. Make chic noir proud 🙂
one last thing….
*chic noir passes around basket*
the game is to be sold not told betas & herbs.
Pay up!
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White Woman–
Btw, lest anyone think I’m exaggerating calling this a genocide, know that International Law not only recognizes race but specifically states that an action does not have to be violent to be considered genocide.
When I read the UN definition of genocide I considered it absurdly over broad and that it should be greatly trimmed.
A lot of the legal positions the UN takes that don’t have immediate application in a real world conflict, are the work of special committees formed of interested leftists who are further lobbied by outside leftist interest groups dying to get a UN “international law” imprimateur on their stands on things, or something close to their stands.
In other words a whole lot of UN “international law” positions aren’t remotely representative of world views on the subject or even of most “expert” or elite views on the subject.
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WW–
I don’t think Sadaam was attempting genocide against the Kurds by any proper definition.
He wasn’t trying to kill them all, or all of them in Iraq. He was trying to subdue them and make them obedient subjects through mass killings including or rather mostly of civilians. Targeting civilians for terror. State terrorism.
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SD No, I’m not mad at you, although you did threaten me with a knife earlier, for flirting with Default (see above).
I was joking about the knife thing. I forget you’re not an American. I aplogize.
SD you still haven’t explained how you knew Tim was going to apologise 17 minutes before he did so
Oh you didn’t ask earlier, you just made a statement.
Do you really think I’m Tim?
Didn’t you check the ip?
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Doug1 – I’ve only been racially aware for 8 months. Before that I was your average m. age White Woman.
When Obama called Tea Party people racists I had a lightbulb moment. I’m not a Tea Party person but I know plenty of them and I knew they weren’t racists. They were the ones who have been sending money, people, supplies, meds and so on to African and other non-European countries for decades…they were the ones who gave Millions to Haiti. I knew that the vast majority of these people were NOT racists and I felt very insulted at the unfair implication. It’s then I realized that White people are the only people that are called racists. They are the only ones who can’t have pride in their race. The only ones who can be made fun of and discriminated against with impunity. I don’t like it and thousands of normal people just like me are waking up and not liking it too.
I am sorry to harp on the subject so much. I’m like a new convert…a little over-zealous perhaps.
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Doug-wasn’t he targeting the Kurds exclusively though?
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White nationalism is meant for loser white people who want to feel some sort of pride in something, anything. The fact that black nationalism is as retarded as white nationalism doesn’t make white nationalism more rational.
That video tells me one thing:
Shakespeare belongs in a group that includes great authors from anywhere. Especially English ones, but really great thinkers and dramatists anywhere. As a white person, Shakespeare is no connection to you.
Whit nationalism is a pathetic and ultimately unreal distraction that prevents us from assaulting the tragically misleading notions of the Left and Collectivism.
All this talk about white pride isn’t only about being proud of your group. It’s about exclusion, ultimately, and it’s entirely irrational.
It’s one thing to deny the utilitarianism of affirmative action and to hate the racial essentialism of the left. It’s whole new ballgame to extend this and become a right-wing racialist.
Black nationalists are exactly as retarded and deluded as white nationalists: Both are poisonous and blind and are hijacking identity.
That Nazi video: Those famous white people were members of societies that included members of other races. Civilization is not some uniracial construct. It never has been. Mayans can build cities and create math.
The intelligent thing to do is not to sneer at black nationalists and invent some farcical racial nationalism of your own. It’s to show up black nationalism for the absurd fucked-up joke that it is.
I detest any kind of collectivist intellectual dishonesty.
Marxism and fascism came from the same Rousseauian-Kantian deliberate irrationality mixed with collectivist self-denial. It’s why post-modernism brought us fascist Feminism and it’s why feminists don’t see why feminism is collectivist and fascist. The philosophical roots are grounded in anti-materialism and the denial of reason. It’s painting pie-in-the-sky utopian fantasies and denying reality.
It’s why it plays so well into irrational identity politics.
Racial fantasy is the same thing.
Why call it at white people? What are white people? Do Albanians (white as white gets) count? How about Greeks? Pretty swarthy, those modern Greeks. Turks? They’re genetically mostly Indo-European in origin. What about short, dark, gnarly old Sicilian men? White or not? Maybe there’s a category – Lesser White Races?
Are Arabs white? What about the Indo part of Indo-Europeans? Lots of Hindus look basically Italian, with tanned skin. Language and culture have the same roots, going back 10,000 years (gods, social order, cultural connections, language roots – from Ireland to central India).
I say: Why call it at Europeans? Why not call it at All People Outside Sub-Saharan Africa (which biologically makes as much sense)? Or Humans? Or Hominids (bring back the Austropithecines!)? Primates? Mammals? Vertebrates? Eukaryotes?
Fuck, if we’re basing our pride on some notion of group accomplishment, … why not the Group of Carbon-Based Lifeforms?
When a white Italian wins a gold medal , you know what it reflects on you as a white person?
Fuck all.
This obsession to the exclusion of all else in the US over White versus Black (and from this, versus everything else) is *entirely* an American cultural creation. It’s the result of dealing with black slaves and not wanting to deal with them.
If it’s *biological* race we’re talking about, then white nationalists have to admit Persians/most Arabs/North-Central Indians and Pakistanis, too. Any objections from our resident white nationalist hallucinators? Or wait — did you only mean Northern Europeans? Or just blue-eyed Europeans?
If it’s *cultural” race, … then culture isn’t a race and has no connection to it. There are lots of Anglos who aren’t of any white traditional race. Frenchmen, too, who are as black as night and as French as Louis XIV.
If it’s *Ethnic* race (hence excluding Jews), then most states don’t usually correlate with ethnicity at all, almost never, and ethnicity is as fluid as water. Croats/Serbs: basically, exactly the same people separated by Eastern and Western Roman Empires. Instant Ethnicity. Walloons/French.
White nationalism makes every mistake that lefty nutjobs and feminists and socialists make. It’s the same thing, the same thought process and the same Hegelian fascist/socialist/collectivist anti-rationalism.
Take your collectivist notions and stuff ’em.
They’re all garbage, but white nationalism makes even less sense than most.
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*sigh*
*chic noir reaches for cigarettes*
*pulls out pall malls*
WTF, white woman I have your cigarettes.
*reaches into other pocket, pulls out Newports*
*lights cigarette and takes deep pull*
Now where was I … OH , how did I know Tim was going to apologize 17 minutes before he did. well actually I knew about an hour before he did. See since default’s been going about with you, I said the hell wit it and met tim in the e-room.
Nope, just joking 🙂
I asked tim about his mistreatment of you on another blog. He admitted that he was wrong.
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enough with this race garbage.
dana
its amazing to watch woman after woman attention whore around here and then flounce off in a tizzy when they realize no ones going to kiss their stupid asses because theyre a girl
really
like a trainwreck
*chic noir walks up to dana*
Hey Dana/ kettle, meet pot.
*Chic noir slams dana over the head with a pot*
Dana ,how like a woman(you) to talk in ridules. Just name the person you’re directing your comment to, be direct.
white woman I also suspect that our country’s obsession with carbs, sugary and processed foods in general is due in large part to mineral deficiencies…people are self-medicating with junk food, trying desperately to feel better.
Hope or Sara used to say the same thing I think you guys are right. I think that’s why you’ll see some crap foods with things like “enriched with 13 vitamins and 18 nutrients” on the label.
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SD No, I’m not mad at you, although you did threaten me with a knife earlier, for flirting with Default (see above).
I was joking about the knife thing. I forget you’re not an American. I aplogize.
Yes. In Ireland if we threaten someone with a knife we feel honor bound to carry through on our promise. That’s how so many of us got sent to Australia as convicts.
SD you still haven’t explained how you knew Tim was going to apologise 17 minutes before he did so
Oh you didn’t ask earlier, you just made a statement.
Do you really think I’m Tim?
No, I was just bothered and bewildered. I actually thought you had extra sensory powers and could foresee my nefarious plans for Default User.
However since then I have been reading the blog of a certain Lady (not me, the Dark One) & I see you raised the situation with Tim there so that answers my query.
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@Doug1
Gorbachev–
Are you Jewish?
You sure are obsessed with anti-Semitism, and consider something that not just when there’s hate filled exaggeration, but when the central position of Jews in creating and maintaining PC taboos is talked about.
I’m not in the least bit Jewish. My family is as right-leaning as any in this country. It’s military and old money. Three generations ago, it was vitriolically anti-Catholic. I remember my grandmother going on about Papists.
My background is as White, East Coast Conservative Old-School as it’s possible to get. For God’s sake, my parents probably have Mayflower boarding passes stashed somewhere in the attic.
Anti-semitism is a dumb as a sack of hammers.
I go for the whole 9/11 Was An Inside Job conspiracy theory before any Jews Taking Control conspiracies.
The Jews were huge on both the right and left in Germany before WWII. They profoundly backed German “socialist” nationalism as well as socialist internationalism. They got sidestepped by the right because of anti-semitism, and eventually were excluded and disillusioned. That’s the irony: Killing Jews meant nothing more than killing good acculturated Germans. Smart ones, too. Were it not for the anti-semitism, half of them would have voted for Hitler and signed up.
BTW, why did Jews lead SWLP liberal protestants in an alliance to do that? Because of Jewish blood deep and almost universal within the ethnicity fear of anti Semitism particularly after the Holocaust, and the propensity of their elite WASP allies to not want to seem ethnocentric. And thus appear more noble and admirable than the hoi poli.
Sounds pretty fucking rational to me, this fear of retarded anti-semitism. But “Collectivist” thought rears its ugly head most often in groups that feel marginalized.
The enemy is not the group. The enemy is collectivism.
Anti-semites should convert their Jewish brethren out of collectivist nightmares. Not retreat into their own.
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SD see you raised the situation with Tim there so that answers my query.
good.
tim likes a woman with a firm hand. thats why he goes there. but you aren’t that type.
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why thank you chic
id love some pot
wait..what?
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@White Woman
Why are you obsessed with Jews Gorb? Are you Jewish?
I’m not obsessed with Jews. They’re just people. A Jew is an American exactly the same way as anyone else. Probably a more successful and smarter American, probably more ethical and less prone to violence or criminality, probably a better and more upstanding and more tax-paying citizen, but exactly this: Another citizen.
It’s this desperate need to blame Jews for something that baffles and stumps me.
A lot of anti-White sentiment seems to stem from places where a lot of Jews hang out but White/Euros have done themselves plenty of harm as well
White people fuck themselves over without the need for Jews to help them out. If there were no Jews, it would be exactly the same.
TAKE A LOOK at your fellow White people. Then cry for your white nationalism. It’s retarded.
due to their lack of knowledge regarding White/European Genocide.
Btw, lest anyone think I’m exaggerating calling this a genocide, know that International Law not only recognizes race but specifically states that an action does not have to be violent to be considered genocide.
I see.
Well, I’d better go out there and put my black neighbor on trial for marrying a white woman and having smart, clever little kids who seem well-adjusted and will breed too. He’s MURDERING THE WHITE RACE!
Maybe the woman should be hung up, too, for being a Race Traitor.
WTF.
I mean, seriously, you people are falling into the precise collectivist trap the Left wants you to: you accept the leftist philosophical world, you just change the boundaries.
Half the reason this country is going int the toilet.
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SD Yes. In Ireland if we threaten someone with a knife we feel honor bound to carry through on our promise. That’s how so many of us got sent to Australia as convicts.
Wow, well you don’t have to worry about me spending 1k+ to hunt you down. I’m not Gary Faulkner. if default wants you, and i know he does…. he can have you.
* chic noir wipes hands*
Ya hear that default. I’m tired of ya flirting ways. I’ve got a stable of nice betas I can choose from.
*chic noir struts out*
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@White Woman
In other words Saddam Hussein could not use the argument at his Tribunal for attempt of Genocide of the Kurds that the Kurds were just a Social construct right?
Hussein killed people. That’s all you need. People. Mass murder.
Kurds are part of a clearly identifiable culture. He tried to exterminate that culture to maintain power.
The Parisian French tried to (did) exterminate Breton/Provencal/Basque culture. Cultural genocide.
“White people” is not a culture.
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sdaedalus–
SD you still haven’t explained how you knew Tim was going to apologise 17 minutes before he did so
I think you should cut chic noir slack on that. She doesn’t know logically and is now working to save face, I’d guess. I read that comment thread and what it seems clear to me what she did was use girl’s/women’s intuition quite acutely. She could see signs. So could I. She assumed the actual deed.
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@Doug1
Gorbachev–
And yeah I realize WW is probably a white nationalist. But she seems to be of the better sort. Not everything they say is wrong. I don’t go along with racial purity stuff though, at all.
In the sense that anyone can notice trends and social effects. But their basic premises are both wrong and grossly misleading and a result of the same bad philosophy that got us into this mess to begin with.
As well I agree with you that culture is more important, generally. But I don’t agree that race doesn’t matter at all. But look, I like to see what’s actually true in the world, not argue or think deductively from a few simple principles.
I hate victimization and collectivist shit.
Locke and Hume, people: We’re individuals.
We owe our “race” nothing. And it owes us nothing.
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Gorbachev–
Anti-semites should convert their Jewish brethren out of collectivist nightmares. Not retreat into their own.
That sounds good to me. But it needs some stick along with carrot. Stick of public derogation for some things, like immigration policy massive lobbying for one.
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White Woman–
I am sorry to harp on the subject so much. I’m like a new convert…a little over-zealous perhaps.
Ok. I believe you.
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@JealousChic
tim likes a woman with a firm hand. thats why he goes there. but you aren’t that type.
Well he won’t need to worry about bothering me then so. I definitely do not have a firm hand. The last child I babysat for tried to spank me rather than the other way round. Clearly a junior alpha in training.
if default wants you, and i know he does…. he can have you.
It’s not normally one of the things Roissysphere men bother about in a relationship (after all, what woman can utter a sentence anyway when in a chokehold) but my inability to verbalise in short concise style might prove a bit of a relationship barrier there. I lack the short punchy sentences Default appears to require as foreplay. You, on the other hand…
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@JealousChic
tim likes a woman with a firm hand. thats why he goes there. but you aren’t that type.
Well he won’t need to worry about bothering me then so. I definitely do not have a firm hand. The last child I babysat for tried to spank me rather than the other way round. Clearly a junior alpha in training.
if default wants you, and i know he does…. he can have you.
It’s not normally one of the things ‘sphere men bother about in a relationship (after all, what woman can utter a sentence anyway when in a chokehold) but my inability to verbalise in short concise style might prove a bit of a relationship barrier there. I lack the short punchy sentences Default appears to require as foreplay. You, on the other hand…
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@Doug
think you should cut chic noir slack on that. She doesn’t know logically and is now working to save face, I’d guess. I read that comment thread and what it seems clear to me what she did was use girl’s/women’s intuition quite acutely. She could see signs. So could I. She assumed the actual deed.
I think you’re very wise, Doug. Chic and I seem to have sorted the Tim issue out. We’ve both agreed I’m too weak-pawed to provide the necessary level of domination he appears to require.
The Default issue, on the other hand…..
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@White Woman
Doug1 – I’ve only been racially aware for 8 months. Before that I was your average m. age White Woman.
When Obama called Tea Party people racists I had a lightbulb moment. I’m not a Tea Party person but I know plenty of them and I knew they weren’t racists. They were the ones who have been sending money, people, supplies, meds and so on to African and other non-European countries for decades…they were the ones who gave Millions to Haiti. I knew that the vast majority of these people were NOT racists and I felt very insulted at the unfair implication. It’s then I realized that White people are the only people that are called racists. They are the only ones who can’t have pride in their race. The only ones who can be made fun of and discriminated against with impunity. I don’t like it and thousands of normal people just like me are waking up and not liking it too.
I am sorry to harp on the subject so much. I’m like a new convert…a little over-zealous perhaps.
You adopted the ills of the enemy. Your mistake.
Your “white nation” 1) doesn’t exist (any more than the “black nation” exists), and 2) isn’t worthy of your pride or devotion.
No race is.
This is the mistake the black nationalists make.
You’ve adopted the tools, language and methods of the lefty collectivists. A huge mistake. You think you’re opposing them, but in effect you’ve joined them.
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White Woman–
Doug-wasn’t he targeting the Kurds exclusively though?
Yes. But they were exclusively rebelling at the time.
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@Doug1
Gorbachev–
Anti-semites should convert their Jewish brethren out of collectivist nightmares. Not retreat into their own.
That sounds good to me. But it needs some stick along with carrot. Stick of public derogation for some things, like immigration policy massive lobbying for one.
I have no problem with the stick.
And there are lots of non-Jew Whites who lobby for the same shit. When white people are perfectly capable of shooting themselves in the foot, it seems unfair to blame lefty Jews for doing the same thing.
NYC is the cultural center of the English world, and lots of Jews live there. They have huge influence. So do all white people in NYC, relatively speaking.
You have to remember your real target. Not Jews. Some Hasidic guys ambling around their roped-off area and bobbing up and down aren’t the immigration enemy.
Lefty collectivist PCers are. Jewish or not.
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Gorbachev–
You’ve adopted the tools, language and methods of the lefty collectivists. A huge mistake. You think you’re opposing them, but in effect you’ve joined them.
Don’t live in abstract ideas so much. They’re a tool for predicting the world, only. Or should only be that.
If you can’t see that allowing the mass immigration, illegally, of heavily or entirely AmerIndian Mayan etc Mexican and Central American immigrants, isn’t going to lower this country’s competitiveness and tax our resources, you’re either an ideologue or stupid.
Jewish networked control (with leftist swpl alies), effectively, on all their hot button issues, of the media is why the popular will on this issue is so flagrantly ignored.
Jews want more diversity in the electorate to be more secure against any possibility of anti-Semitism in the future. While in fact acting in a way that very justifiably would ignite anti-Semitism. Which in fact is the history of same if you look at it from more than just and exclusively Jewish and suck up perspective.
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@Laura
I think White Woman is right on the color blind issue. Different groups almost always show favoritism to their own, but white people are not allowed to do this. I’ve noticed this many times in my own life.
I agree. Publicly, the left has adopted the collectivist philosophy and preaches a negative version of it (Racial relativism for white people, but tolerant of other racial collectivisms).
The real solution is to abandon the collectivist thought entirely. That would solve all of these problems simultaneously, from an institutional perspective.
No group rights or group identities. Only individuals have rights as individuals. Groups have no rights.
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I’ve repeatedly called us White/European people so you wouldn’t be confused Gorb. But to simplify it further, to your question, who are White/European people? I guess it’s all those people that the “White Guilt” industry is aimed at. I guess it’s those men or women who didn’t get the job they were well qualified for because they weren’t “colored” enough. It’s those people who “can’t jump” and “can’t dance”.
Who are the people Shirley Sherrod was talking about when she said “”God helped me see that it’s not just about black people, it’s about poor people.”? Who ARE these Black people she was speaking of? Why did she call the farmer she didn’t want to help White, if “White” doesn’t exist?
It would be suicide to bury my head in the sand and pretend race doesn’t exist. As long as “reverse discrimination” keeps happening and as long as there are people singing “kill the Whites” I have to assume there’s a White race and do what I need to do to protect myself. Shame on me for wanting to survive!
Mandela at 1:41. I couldn’t believe it when I saw it the first time.
Can you imagine if this was a bunch of White people singing kill the Blacks? Egads!
Chic. Smart White Women don’t smoke.
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dana
why thank you chic
id love some pot
wait..what?
LOL
rum chimes in ” I got some pipe”
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With all of this discussion of white nationalism, jews, etc, I’ll throw out a plug for Guy White’s blog. He’s a white nationalist (I believe) who takes on the anti semites. Makes for interesting reading.
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Tell you what big G. If all the African/Jewish/Arab/”Latino”/and other races/ethnic groups give up their racial identity, including their constant demand for repartation from the White (there’s that word again) race, I’ll do the same. Not until.
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thank you doug 🙂
again betas/herbs notice how SD piped down on the fiestiness once doug came in with a gentle but masculine hand.
SD It’s not normally one of the things ‘sphere men bother about in a relationship (after all, what woman can utter a sentence anyway when in a chokehold) but my inability to verbalise in short concise style might prove a bit of a relationship barrier there. I lack the short punchy sentences Default appears to require as foreplay. You, on the other hand…
you keep mentioning the sentence structure thing. I hope you aren’t fishing for complements.
FYI , there’s nothing wrong with your writing style. I like the way you write. You writing style reminds me a bit of Nicole’s. Or a feminine Johnny 5 maybe even feminine Kamal. it’s flowery and poetic 🙂
You keep default on the end of his seat. He may complain but he likes it. Just like men complain when you make them wait but they still like it.
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Gorby Dawkins:
Locke and Hume, people: We’re individuals.
http://vdare.com/sailer/nepotism.htm
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@Doug1
Don’t live in abstract ideas so much. They’re a tool for predicting the world, only. Or should only be that.
If you can’t see that allowing the mass immigration, illegally, of heavily or entirely AmerIndian Mayan etc Mexican and Central American immigrants, isn’t going to lower this country’s competitiveness and tax our resources, you’re either an ideologue or stupid.
I *never* defended mass immigration. I defended immigration. We need to assimilate, I always maintain that: mass immigration is not a good idea with this in mind.
I’m just not against immigration, per se.
I’m a Pro-HBD eugenics enthusiast. I’m hardly PC. I’d be drummed out of any PC circle faster than you if they knew my thoughts.
I just think the social-construct aspect of American racialism is retarded – which it is.
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White Woman is in moderation purgatory right now.
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Every time roissy refers to his sadism with the truth, I just have this image of him grabbing some bird by her hair and whispering viciously in her ear something like
“Bitch, you think you’re hot now? Well, you’re going to look like crap when you hit 35! Oh yeah, the truth hurts, doesn’t it?”
And she’ll beg “Please, no more!”
“But the pain turns you on, admit it!”
And this image. it’s just.
so.
funny.
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Gorbachev: The problem with that proposition is that humans think — need to think, have to think — in stereotypes and boxes.
And they can be very, very useful. Not thinking in groups would be not useful if there truly weren’t group trends, but there are. Sometimes we need to make split second judgements. That’s an inbuilt mechanism: it meant the difference between life and death.
And we each have clear conceptions of what we mean by groups, internally, even if we cannot define them. Ethnicity is probably the closest measure. I understand the unique American race consciousness, and have noted it myself. The root of it seems to me more complex than what you stated.
All I’m saying is you can control human nature, but you cannot delete it. It’s the way our brains fundamentally work.
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@Doug1
I work in media. I know all about Jews in media. More than anyone on this blog, for sure. All of the conspiracy thought is a joke beyond possible reckoning. My experience is that non-Jews have harder and louder opinions on pro-Jewish issues than actual Jews, and not always for the same reasons.
The strongest Pro-Israeli lobby? White, Conservative Christians. Even Mossad couldn’t create a better political ally.
Israel’s greatest ideological enemy after Islam? Other Jews, mostly American.
Jewish networked control (with leftist swpl alies),
Mostly SWPL allies, BTW. Do some head-counts. Also, most of the actual power is non-Jewish.
You want real targets: Ignore the Jews. Go after the SWPLs. Good, honest white folk.
effectively, on all their hot button issues, of the media is why the popular will on this issue is so flagrantly ignored.
Define their specific hot-button issues. On every issue, you’ll see the biggest resistance in every organization for accepting standard editorial guidelines comes from Jews.
I’ll guarantee you there’s more diversity in the media than you think, and less, too. Our media is more right-wing than any in the rest of the English world. In Canada, I found one right-wing paper (a tabloid, at that). The rest were left. In the UK, the ratio is pretty similar.
In the US, we have more right-wing domination of the media than you think. You need to experience the media in other countries to see how right-wing our media is. I laugh when I hear the right call our media left-wing or liberal. There’s almost no “liberal” here compared to the rest of the English-speaking world.
Usually, what complainers mean is that THEIR brand of collectivist issues aren’t addressed properly, THEIR victimhood isn’t celebrated.
Before the 1960’s, the fear was the Danger of Black People. Now, it’s the Danger of White People.
The enemy is not the particular collective victimhood. It’s collective victimhood itself.
The issue is the victimhood culture.
Jews want more diversity in the electorate to be more secure against any possibility of anti-Semitism in the future. While in fact acting in a way that very justifiably would ignite anti-Semitism. Which in fact is the history of same if you look at it from more than just and exclusively Jewish and suck up perspective.
I suspect Jews want to pander to people to make money. Like all people in the media. They take the prevailing trend and follow it to the money, like good businesspeople anywhere.
I work in the media. I guarantee you this: there are as many Jews on the other side of every “Jewish” issue as there on the so-called Jewish Conspiracy side. Get 3 Jews in a room, and get 4 opinions.
Jews can’t agree on the time of day. Editorial guidelines have as many Jews against them as non-Jews.
A lot of the time, non-Jews are more pro-Jewish than Jews.
The amount of anti-Israel shite that comes out of Lefty Jews is enormous. Even *in* Israel. It’s obviously delusional, and Jews should know better, because Israel would cease to exist in one minute if they really started to build a Palestinian state without severe restrictions on Islamic absolutism.
But lefty Jews don’t see this. So are they just Self-Hating Jews? Not Really Jews? No, they’re Jews, good and proper Jews, Jewish to the core, for whatever that means, and profoundly anti-Israel. No-one is anti-Israel like the Jewish Left. Also the Jewish Right: the ultra-religious are anti-Secular Israel, too.
Lefty Jews shoot themselves in the foot as often as anyone else.
See the point?
Lefty Jews are, … lefty.
Leftists shoot themselves in the foot.
Targeting Jews makes you a distraction from the real issue.
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Editor,
“[editor: love comes with preconditions. perhaps what you are referring to is guilt-propped commitment.]”
If I didn’t regret not being married before, I certainly don’t now. Thanks! I kind of always thought true love was an illusion.
I would never expect a man to be interested in sex with a women he finds disgusting and crazy. Moreover, I would never expect a woman to be aroused by a man she thought was a loser. All that’s been covered pretty well here on your blog. However, I would hope that if there is a rare couple who has managed to find true love, and kept themselves exciting for their partner, that they could continue to enjoy each other for years to come.
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montizilla,
”You should get a hobby or something.”
This coming from someone who wrote the following:
”I scanned your comments on this thread: 14 posts containing nearly 1800 words, not counting others quotes.”
Your point has been noted and evaluated.
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In your way of thinking Gorba, the holocaust during WW2 didn’t happen to “The Jews” right? It just happened to a some individuals.
You sure use the word Anti-Semite a lot considering that to your way of thinking, there are no Semites.
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@NiceChic
there’s nothing wrong with your writing style. I like the way you write. You writing style reminds me a bit of Nicole’s. Or a feminine Johnny 5 maybe even feminine Kamal. it’s flowery and poetic 🙂
I don’t know Kamal, but I like Nicole’s style and the idea of being a feminine Johnny 5 is adorable. Thank you so much.
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If you think about it many of the terrible crimes against humanity have been committed by one race of people against another. Maybe people are more enlightened now, but it shows that race does matter.
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@White Woman
Tell you what big G. If all the African/Jewish/Arab/”Latino”/and other races/ethnic groups give up their racial identity, including their constant demand for repartation from the White (there’s that word again) race, I’ll do the same. Not until.
You know who demonizes white people most, most loudly and most often?
*OTHER WHITE PEOPLE*
When some retard complains about racism against, say, black people, half the time it’s some SWPL and the black person just wants it all to go away or doesn’t think it’s an issue.
White lefties going out and agitating. Taking over universities. Inventing radical feminism. This Collectivist “Equalism” “Social Identity” “Ethnic Politics” crap. That’s all a White People invention.
*White* victimhood guilt-trippers.
Most black people would be happy to assimilate if they were allowed to. All the ones I ever come in contact with (admittedly a self-selected group) have done so or would do it in a heartbeat. Same for hispanics who legally immigrate here looking for a better life. They left (insert country here) for a reason.
It’s WHITE people, well-meaning but deluded SWPLs, that always make this an overwhelming issue.
Either these White Retards are racists and won’t let the Other People join the club, or the White Retards are reverse-racists filled with SWPL guilt who won’t let the black/hispanic people just be… people. They reinforce whatever category they think the “minority” belongs to.
In almost all cases, it’s SWPLs enabling, allowing or encouraging this shit on all sides of the political spectrum. really, it’s a White-White debate.
The individual members of these “minorities” are just footballs.
If you and other “white nationalists” weren’t so blind, it wouldn’t be so tragic.
Retreating into White Nationalism is a joke. You just give SWPLs more power.
That you don’t realize this is a testament to why white nationalism is a joke.
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Doug – I consider you to be a good guy but do you realize that when you argue against the way International Law is written it makes you appear that you want so much to commit Genocide against your own race, that you are trying to argue that it should be perfectly legal to do so?
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Why is Solschenitsyn in that vid btw, i think he would object
Biki, google his famous commencment address at Harvard. Solzhenitsyn was profoundly opposed to the mixing of peoples. Plus, he was a Russian nationalist.
Take your collectivist notions and stuff ‘em.
Are you a Randian? that would explain a lot.
What are white people?
People with a common ancestry and recognized by silky and non-kinky hair, cream-to-beige skin color, eyes that range from dark brown to blue, thin noses and lips, and pink-to light brown nipples in women. White race (like other races) has fuzzy edges, but presence of grey does not negate the existence of black and white (heh)
White nationalism is for losers
Even the most successful members of our society are defacto white nationalists. Go by what they do, not what they say.
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@Tupac Chopra
Gorby Dawkins:
Locke and Hume, people: We’re individuals.
http://vdare.com/sailer/nepotism.htm
Look, I never said there was nothing to racial identity: as a biological reality, it’s not just real, but obvious. Denying it is intellectually perverse.
As a social construct, it’s demoralizing for us and damaging. We can’t wish away people like us: We need social mechanisms to reduce the stress from ethnic nepotism.
I could go out and just kill any other male that looked crosswise at my mate, or murder my mate and her lover for cheating – maybe even torture them first. I don’t, because out society would collapse into vengeance killing.
Just because my genes tell me to go out and fuck as much as I can, doesn’t mean I want to, I should, or I should do it as a means to live constructively with other people.
Individualism is the greatest social tool the modern world invented. It smashes victim-culture and the rampant abuses it causes. It’s the cure.
I wear contact lenses to correct my genetically bad eyesight.
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I told you up at 5:55 that we call Self Hating White/Europeans suicidal or traitorous. And yes, I’m aware that there are plenty of them.
It’s very sad but like I’ve said, more and more White/Euros are waking up everyday.
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[[[[editor:
who cares? you’re no threat to any of the writers of this blog.]]]]
—I have no idea what the hell you are talking about.
[editor: figures.]
I have said mostly nice things about you,
[you’re utterly missing my point.]
only challenging you on this thread and you resort to name calling me,
[don’t be such a wilting flower. you haven’t seen name calling. i called you gullible because you are! you believe any old shit on the net. based on those mistaken beliefs, you called me a liar (not a smart move, btw) and i helpfully informed you why you were wrong. still, you persisted in your obstinancy, so i increased the voltage. then you pulled the weeping woe is me victim of the meanie chateau card. but that card don’t work here, which should have been obvious to anyone reading for more than a day. yet, because i have a soft spot for you (against the warnings of the other writers here), i generously offered the alternative explanation for your mistaken beliefs. i don’t do that for just anyone, you know. now, obviously, i can’t, and won’t, get into that explanation in detail, because to do so would compromise security detail. however, i’ve given you enough hints that you should be able to figure it out on your own.]
being very nasty and becoming aggressive and agitated.
[watchoo talking ’bout, bitch?!]
There is no arguing with you and I do not wish to. I will agree to anything you say because I turn off when someone is excessively mean to me.
[you really are a crybaby of wickedly whiny proportions. excessively mean? you ain’t seen excessively mean. how long have you been reading here? one minute? it should be pretty fucking clear after a day or two reading what this net outpost is like. trust me, i’m easy on you.]
Even if it’s a lie,
[everything i, and the others, write here could be a lie. all of it! how about that! i could be a nerdo virgin making it all up for all you know. you, and for that matter everyone else, have no choice but to take my words at face value. if you don’t want to do that, you are free to stop reading any time. that’s what i mean when i say i don’t owe you anything. and before you reply, let me remind you once again that the truth value of factual statements that can be readily observed by anyone with the eyes to see does not rest on the ethics or the life history of the messenger.]
I will agree to it given my extreme discomfort when someone is attacking me. You win.
[silly nookie. it’s not about winning. it’s about soulripping.]
I never threatened you and even after explaining this you you still write at me as if I did.
[jesus, you’re still not getting it. you can’t threaten the proprietors of this blog anyhow, because you don’t know the writers here. that’s not the issue. again, since you seem to be having trouble with this, the person you think is writing this to you right now is not that person. i can’t say anymore without revealing too many state secrets. as for how i personally write to you, it’s nothing to do with a perceived imaginary threat; i just like shitting in the faces of the stupid and specious. you’re nothing special in this regard. plenty have endured the howitzer blast of my cruelty, and at much worse caliber.]
You still milk it and spin it as if I did.
[your job, should you choose to accept it, is to reassess exactly why i’m giving you shit. don’t think too hard. hint: it has nothing to do with some imaginary “threat” from you.]
I have come here and posted with most of my comments being cordial and marked with my abundant sense of humor.
[so what? when you write shit that is totally at odds with reality i’m gonna call you out, your passive aggressive cordiality to the contrary notwithstanding.]
I have supported you and stuck up for you in other parts of the sphere and believed in you as a writer.
[you’re absolutely nuts. and a patronizing nutter to boot. none of the writers wants or needs your “support”. fer krissakes, i’ve personally never met you, nor do i have any intention of meeting you even if it were possible. hate all you want about this blog on your own time, i couldn’t care less. i’m sure there are a few bitterbitch covens of chateau haters out there who would welcome you with open arms into their circle diddle.]
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SD I don’t know Kamal, but I like Nicole’s style and the idea of being a feminine Johnny 5 is adorable. Thank you so much.
Your welcome. You can find a link to kamal’s blog on my blog. He used to post here back when this place was like sallon mensa. We had some really bright women here too who were hated on because they were very intelligent but that’s water under the bridge now.
White Woman Alter Ego
White Woman is in moderation purgatory right now.
*somewhere in the hood WW makes a wrong turn and ends up on MLK blvd where she spots this*
http://troynotorious.blogspot.com/2010/07/w72.html
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WW It’s very sad but like I’ve said, more and more White/Euros are waking up everyday.
From the looks of it, you wake up very sore 🙂
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hey chic
that guy looks like something you’d see in the toilet after a big meal
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I’m not proposing “wishing away” people that aren’t like me Gorb. Where’d you get that idea? And I certainly don’t support violence of any kind if you were trying to imply that in your last post. (dirty pool)
I just don’t want to see a good race die out. Where’s the diversity in that? I though everyone liked diversity.
Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white/Eurpean country and ONLY into white countries.
The Netherlands and Belgium are more crowded than Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and “assimilating” with them.
Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.
What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?
How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?
And how long would it take any sane black man or woman to notice this and what kind of psycho black man or woman wouldn’t object to this?
But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, everyone agrees that I am a nazi who wants to kill six million jews.
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@White Woman
In your way of thinking Gorba, the holocaust during WW2 didn’t happen to “The Jews” right? It just happened to a some individuals.
You sure use the word Anti-Semite a lot considering that to your way of thinking, there are no Semites.
You know, I feel bad, in a way. You just set yourself up.
Jews can barely manage to organize themselves. They’re traditionally their own worst enemy. Why? Because this notion of “Jewishness” is stronger in the minds of Christians (or their descendants) than it is in the minds of Jews.
Most Jews (or any group, especially minorities) are defined that way by outsiders.
Who was a “Jew” was defined by the Nazis. There were a million or so “Jews” who didn’t *know* they were Jews. Oh, they may have had vague ideas about it, the same way I think I’m Irish sometimes. The kids often wondered why they were secular. Or why Grandma didn’t give Christmas presents. How many mixed marriages were there? A million more? How many secular Germans were Jews? Another million? What about in Austria, where most Jews were no longer Jewish in any meaningful sense?
In Eastern Europe, the Ashkenazi Jews spoke a German (!) dialect. They were distinct from the local population more for their GERMAN language and GERMAN feudal cultural attitudes than they were for their religion. Most were poor, non-urban, rural, agricultural, craftsmen. German Jews were urban, educated, successful.
French Jews were so integrated they were barely considered Jews at all by other Jews. Anglo Jews were – in every possible way – a bunch of Anglo liberals despised by the rest of continental Jewry.
“Transnational Jewish Identity” was a myth. Meeting a Yemeni Jew, a British Jew would be more likely to have a racist Anglo-Imperialist reaction (“disgusting little Arab troll”) than feel “Jewish solidarity”.
Until the Holocaust, Zionism was an unmitigated failure. Anti-Semitism MADE modern Jewish consciousness. It’s fading, too. Intermarriage rates are back up again. The core Jewish community is getting smaller and smaller. They’re breeding with everyone else and disappearing faster than any other ethnic group.
Our Racialist ethnic tags are absolutes. One drop of black blood makes someone black, as if it was a kind of contamination; same for Jewishness in the mind of conspiracy nuts.
Biology and race are all about vague definitions and statistical distributions and fuzzy borders. But these social categories are all about arbitrary tags that only superficially have anything to do with biology.
Hitler:
The Jews were just a warmup. He was planning all-out extermination for all Slavs, every one of them, all the many millions, because they were obviously Untermenschen, barely useful as slaves, stupid and thick and useless, despite their illusory white skin and blue eyes. A few might be worth keeping around, but their racial inferiority was obvious.
They were very obviously racially, culturally and socially inferior, in every way, human garbage that didn’t deserve to continue to exist. Right? I mean, it was obvious, right?
Jews and Gypsies were appetizers. The really useful targets for Genocide were Slavs. Imagine a Greater Germany stretching from France to the Urals, and not a single Russian/Yugo/Ukrainian/Pole left alive, a footnote, a racially inferior dog-man, white-skinned Slave Race, a soulless untermensch, left in the trashbin of history.
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Chic….
Everyone gets sore when they are blamed and hated for things they didn’t do. I don’t hate any particular race though and I have friends who are not White/Euro.
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@White Woman
Doug – I consider you to be a good guy but do you realize that when you argue against the way International Law is written it makes you appear that you want so much to commit Genocide against your own race, that you are trying to argue that it should be perfectly legal to do so?
You know, WW, for all your apparent put-on reasonableness, I suspect there’s a much uglier picture under there. Like all White Nationalists, it’s not just about White Pride. In my experience, white nationalism is as fucked up as black nationalism. And about as rational.
Do you really believe there’s a conspiracy to exterminate white people?
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I can’t keep up with your lies Gorb.
Anyway WHO praytell declared a boycott against German goods in 1933 (before the war). Methinks is was some Jewish folks.
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dana that guy looks like something you’d see in the toilet after a big meal
wow talk about gaping appendages. dana you need some prunes and dates to break that up else you gonna end up with hemmroids. but yea he is “blessed”.
Some things are better looked at from a distance.
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@White Woman
I told you up at 5:55 that we call Self Hating White/Europeans suicidal or traitorous. And yes, I’m aware that there are plenty of them.
It’s very sad but like I’ve said, more and more White/Euros are waking up everyday.
Talk about missing the target. SWPLs and lefty victimhood politics and group identity ethnopoliticians are the bad guys.
And almost all of these are white and not Jewish.
Woman, pretty much all of your “racial” enemies are white non-Jews. Every single one. Obama is actually an ally for you: he loves victimhood politics, just from a different perspective. You should be overjoyed that you have a lefty Black president. He holds the same philosophical positions you do. Just the cancerous surface is different.
You need to retarget your weapons and start pointing them at your good, honest, upstanding White neighbors. Because they’re the source of most of this victimhood crap. They’re your real enemies. Not black or hispanic and especially not Jewish people.
I’d go so far as to say that, by your twisted definitions, most white people if not almost all of them are self-hating race traitors.
Think it’s bad here? Practically every second couple I saw in Canada was mixed. They were all fucking each other. I can only imagine how Oz is doing these days.
You know, it might actually do us a good turn, you and your “racial brothers” and the rest of us Ameicans, if you white nationalists removed yourselves to some mountain fastness in the Rockies where you could inbreed yourselves into oblivion.
I heard a banjo twanging there for a second. Visions of going upstream, up a river. Wonder where I got that image.
You know, actual Euros want nothing to do with “white nationalism”.
A Norwegian doesn’t see an Italian and say – OH! My White brother!”
White nationalism indeed.
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White Woman
Chic….
Everyone gets sore when they are blamed and hated for things they didn’t do.
No I think you’ll be sore if you actually do it. but it’s time for a short intermission.
tonight I had a diffcult discion but I decided on Wichita Lineman.
shot out to tupac.
this is the sort of song I can see r singing to pupu or SD 🙂 with alpha intent of course.
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FYI, some infamous Jewish Communists.
Lenin
Stalin
Karl Marx (author of the Communist Manifesto)
Leon Trotsky (real name – Bronstein)
Spreading Truth not Hate.
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opps
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white woman, we have a 3 minute intermission for christ sake. Stop that crap for three short minutes. That’s the problem with women, they don’t know when to shut up.
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Very nice selection Chic.
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@White Woman
I can’t keep up with your lies Gorb.
Okay, I’ll call you on this. Please note my lies. Note them and tell me. I was going to abandon this useless thread, but I’ll follow it long enough to back up every one of my “lies”.
Anyway WHO praytell declared a boycott against German goods in 1933 (before the war). Methinks is was some Jewish folks.
http://nspcanada.nfshost.com/graphics/judeawar.gif
Oh, I see. And JEWS, being of one Borg mind, all fell in with this? Yeah, … right.
By 1933, Jews could see the writing on the wall. In the 1920’s, there were all kinds of Jews on the right in German politics. It was a mess. German Jews were about evenly split down the same lines as the German population: Communists, socialists, anarchists, right-wing capitalists and national socialism (right-wing socialist) types.
German Nationalists, too. Until the anti-semitism forced them out of rightist politics, there was all kinds of support for a right-wing German renaissance among many Jews.
Jewish Communists hated all capitalists – Jewish or not. Jewish capitalists voted Conservative – of course. Jewish Germans were – SHOCK AND SURPRISE – Germans.
This was the real tragedy of the Holocaust for Germany. Hitler killed a whole bunch of extremely loyal, extremely German Germans. And wiped out a generation. And then proceeded to do the same in a dozen other European countries.
Eastern European Jews were more medieval German than they were Eastern European. I speak German – and I can understand Yiddish almost perfectly.
I suspect you don’t know shit about Europe, Germany or WWII.
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“she is 40 when she is interviewed here.
[editor: imagine what she looked like at 20! but, yeah, she’s about a one in a million 40 year old.]”
If that’s a one-in-a-million-40-year-old, I’m going to shred the suicide note I have written for 39 years, 364 days. There IS hope afterall.
I’m sure 41-year-olds much more delusional than 31-year-olds. I got “cougared” for lack of a better word at Whole Foods a few months ago. An early-mid forties dyed blonde career woman had the most self-satisfying look on her face as she strutted past me. With my comfortable loose-fitting clothing following chiro appt., lack of makeup, and start of a summer tan, I looked like I could be found wandering around a forest during Colonial times. She was sleekly dressed in black, totally done up, and, I’m sure, looked as best as humanly possible for her age, minus the pudgy calves. I always seem to get the worst responses from blondes (natural and fake). Don’t blame me you can’t go swimming without your hair turning green. Not my fault.
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thank you white woman. the first time I heard that song, my eyes watered*. There’s something so sweet and so sad about it but I just can’t put my finger on it. Actually whenever I listen to it, it makes me feel weapy.
*tupac dedicated this song to alias clio.
*clears throat and looks over to default user*
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You are trying to make this about me being against Jews Gorba-Strawman. While I am not afraid of criticising people of Jewish decent, I’m not a Jew hater and I’m not blaming Jews for anti-White sentiment so give it a rest.
You are so right, White people themselves have been so brainwashed that they are against themselves! Crazy huh?
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*chic noir shakes head*
well, I can’t fuss at gordy because he gave me exactly three minutes.
gordy’s cool thought.
rum, polymath, tim, laura, editor… what do you think about tonights selection?
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My only point in bringing up Jews (originally) was to illustrate that there are races…sorry you got sidetracked and/or pretended I am an anti-semite to divert the conversation from the real issue. The genocide of the White/European race.
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””””You have to remember your real target. Not Jews. Some Hasidic guys ambling around their roped-off area and bobbing up and down aren’t the immigration enemy.”””
Yea but they have game make their woman shave their heads and wear wigs. What is going on with that shit. And I thought I was hard he he he
These guys really make their woman submit.
Although I think I would miss the hair.
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Chic
Cough.
Some people must find your comments endearing, Chic. I’m more of a content guy. Compress the content, say useful things. Lots of other people just like to say “hello, how are you, how are you feeling, I feel this way” in a thousand different ways all day long.
There are a group of posters on this blog who have a low percentage of posts that are even generally related to the topic at hand or the theme of the blog. A disproportionate number of these are female.
Some guys apparently like that sort of thing. Some of us find it irritating and boring. We just want to let you know that if you just shut the fuck up, the world would be a better place.
If as a female you find that mostly only other females are addressing you, and you them, and that most of what you say is inane bullshit, notice that.
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WW
Lenin was of part ancestry, zero practice.
Stalin spent time in Catholic Seminary.
He also turned violently antisemitic later in life.
Doesn’t it bother you to display such deep ignorance about subjects you bring up?
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WW,
You are ignoring what Gorb is actually saying and imputing to him views he does not hold.
Doug1,
Nobody here is arguing for mass immigration. What Gorb wants is to let in only the best people who want to come here, some of whom may not be white.
Gorb,
The issue of interracial mating is more complex than you make out, and there are some bad social outcomes related to it, though of course I agree with you that nobody should be prevented from hooking up with anybody else on racial grounds. Also, you’e spending too much time on this blog. 🙂
Chic, SD, etc.;
It’s easy enough to ignore the girl stuff and I don’t know why xsplat has such a problem with it — just like GBFM’s lzozls make it easy to scroll past his posts quickly. I wish I had time to game my way into your little rivalries, but I come here for the substance.
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They do take control of their woman I give em props for that for that is what you need to do.
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White Woman,
You really don’t know shit. I keep having to remember who I’m posting to.
Stalin, whatever his “racial” background, was one of the century’s most brutal and vicious anti-semites. His hatred for anything Jewish was legendary and soaked in blood. Lenin abhored Jewishness as well.
You know, there’s even a story that Hitler was partly Jewish. Even if this isn’t true, it’s almost certainly true that Germans have massive amounts of “semitic” blood in them, going back to the 1st century AD. Koeln: Colonia Agrippina. Founded as a Roman military retirement colony. Mostly jews. Agrippina (emperor’s wife) was a Jew. Jews moved to Germany and interbred throughout the Middle Ages, openly. They had to pass laws against it because even the Jewish authorities were complaining.
Jews, for many reasons, adopted Enlightenment ideals more effectively than anyone else. Probably because they’re just smarter. The noxious collectivist irrational thought of Rousseau and Kant, denying reason and fact and laying the foundations for communist and post-modernism, was mostly Gentile.
Jews almost gave up their own identity to adopt the Enlightenment. The idea of “jewishness” is more notional than anything else as a result. You should hear an Orthodox Jew’s opinion of whether or not a Reform or secular Jew is even a Jew.
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Banjo? Did somebody say banjo? I didn’t grow up with banjo music and I never even saw the movie “Deliverance” but I like this song…be patient…it gets faster.
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xsplat you are too mean.
*chic noir runs off for a cry*
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@White Woman
Banjo? Did somebody say banjo? I didn’t grow up with banjo music and I never even saw the movie “Deliverance” but I like this song…be patient…it gets faster.
I like it.
When you found your Whitebread Republic, I’ll gladly come visit as a tourist. And I’ll even smile at the banjo. But there’s no way I’m going upriver.
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white woman yea people getting fucked but no matter how bad you fucks someone the genes can’t be stopped lol
But yea whites just need to explain how money really works to their children so that their children can grow up and chill. I’m taking the gunz challenge and gonna see how early I can have my son ready for his first retirement. I am predicting 24 to 27. But maybe earlier. So yea then he doesn’t really have to worry about anything at all and then can choose to be whatever he wants.
But yea if your on the other side of the coin and poor and rich and poor and middle class and rich and poor and elite.
It is much easier to understand how things fit together than if you grew up only one way. I have had quit a few benefits in having lived so many lives already and do understand from a personal level how whites are being fucked but at the same time I also worked to be free of the fucking I saw. Now I will raise my children to be able to be free of the system at a very young age so that they won’t even have to worry about the bullshit.
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Gorb said “Jews almost gave up their own identity to adopt the Enlightenment.”
Do they identify as Jews or not? You can’t have it both ways.
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Polymath
No way. He’s top quality, heads above the crowd. In my mind I have an open invitation to visit Indonesia to several people on this forum, and he’s at the head of the list.
I usually do scroll past. When I don’t, I get irritated enough to lash. Some people have a good lashing coming.
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I heard you loud and clear chic noir.
*default winks at SDaedalus*
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xplat- name names. don’t be a beta.
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sorry.
xsplat-name names, don’t be a beta & offer constuctive criticism.
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banjos own my grandfather was an irish pimp with the banjo and about every other instrument.
Got a rich woman to support his ass all with the power of dick and banjo he he he
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The question of AHs true ancestory is of course un-answerable but it is nonetheless fascinating to me because I tend to believe that he strongly suspected it to be true.
The accompaning meme of abandonment and rejection by ones “true” family (instead of the losers he grew up around) .. yeah, that would twist things up a bit.
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yippee ka yay motherfuckers
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Haha Gorb. I doubt I’ll ever live in an all White community…I like diversity just fine as long as no one is out to get me and mine and as long as job opportunities exist for us and aren’t given unfairly to those less qualified and as long as other forms of non-violent genocide aren’t being aimed at us.
Gun – What is Gunz Challenge?…all I found was a video game.
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@White Woman
Gorb said “Jews almost gave up their own identity to adopt the Enlightenment.”
Do they identify as Jews or not? You can’t have it both ways.
Mostly it was other people that called them Jews. The same way I’m Catholic.
And the products of mixed marriages were Jewish or not?
You make it sound all absolute: Jews, Non-Jews.
In Europe, it was all a mess most of the time. The fact that Jewish conspiracy theorists don’t see this is a tragedy for Jews, because Jews have spent 1000 years fucking themselves to near-invisibility in Europe.
Because of forced conversions, there are dozens of towns-sized populations in Iberia that were once entirely Jewish. By blood, they were Jews. They fucked everyone else or were forced to and now their blood runs thick in the veins of Spanish/Portuguese Europeans.
Same in England. Especially true in France in the 20th century.
Now there are 8 million obviously Chinese people who are also, obviously, of Jewish cultural descent. Israel says:
Holy shit, WTF do we do now? If they make Aaliyah, we’re screwed.
My point:
American Jews are white people. As white as white can possibly get. The difference between SWPLs and Jews?
Nothing.
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But that is problem if parents do not teach their children the truths of life. That life is not free it costs money to live free. freedom is never free it costs and you have to work to achieve it. You can not need money to eat and have a place to live and be free it doesn’t work.
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@White Woman
Haha Gorb. I doubt I’ll ever live in an all White community…I like diversity just fine as long as no one is out to get me and mine and as long as job opportunities exist for us and aren’t given unfairly to those less qualified and as long as other forms of non-violent genocide aren’t being aimed at us.
Exactly what Genocide is going on?
The reason why there’s not mass immigration to Japan or Korea: Nobody wants to move there. And there are tons, tons of Iranians in Japan. And white people, miscegenating and marrying and making half-white-half-nip babies. I know at least a dozen.
And Korean farmers are literally importing wives from all over Asia – even other men are doing it from *Russia* (the big boom destination now). And Korea has to be the most race-conscious place on Earth.
No-one is immigrating to Africa because no-one wants to live there. South America – same. Though Brazil is looking pretty good. No-one is immigrating to lots of white countries, too (Argentina, … Chile, …).
They come to Anglo countries because we’ve done lots of things right. And keep doing them right. And those things are due to our culture as much as anything else.
And your collectivist Victim whining (like we didn’t have enough from black people) helps no-one.
The immigration debacle charge can be leveled squarely at the feet of non-Jewish white people. So can all of our other lefty problems. Take all the Lefty Jews out, and nothing will have changed. That you can believe. Every problem we have is a problem entirely of our own making. The most enthusiastic immigration proponents are SWPLs. Non-Jews.
You know, white nationalism would make more sense if it had any socio-cultural relevance to America.
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Gorb you have been very crafty at making this about Jews. My fault for being easily diverted…probably need some nutrition.
My problem is that only White/European countries are taking in (and subsidizing) third worlders and if we protest, we’re racists! Again, no one is trying to force or coerce Japan to take in millions of non-Japanese people. They have a very tight immigration policy. Why can’t the U.S. Europe, Australia and Canada have the same policy without being called names?
This is the way it is now…
Africa for Africans
Asia for Asians
White Countries for everybody
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”””””’White Woman
Haha Gorb. I doubt I’ll ever live in an all White community…I like diversity just fine as long as no one is out to get me and mine and as long as job opportunities exist for us and aren’t given unfairly to those less qualified and as long as other forms of non-violent genocide aren’t being aimed at us.
Gun – What is Gunz Challenge?…all I found was a video game.”””””’
lol rather than only come up with philosophical challenges in my head. I come up with real life challenges in real life as well. Just a challenge to myself that I can produce a freeman at a young age using what I have learned about the reality of life.
Just like I took gunz challenge in real life about my wife being cool with giving her all my shit and having nothing in the world in my name. She could have said thanks and see ya but she is passing the test.
I can always get more money. I know it takes me about a year and half to save a hundred grand because I have done it. That was another challenge I gave myself that I beat.
The other challenge was if I worked the same as a video game I could beat life. I beat that challenge.
I wanted to see if their was one good woman on planet others have thought she would fail. I am beating that challenge.
Since young I have been facinated with a story of redemtion for a hooker.
I beat that challenge.
But yea I come up with hypothesis on what I can do in life.
Then proceed to prove them or disprove them.
I could never prove the hypothesis of a man and woman working and the woman puts her check in bank and the man works to provide the money to eat as being one of the easiest ways to get rich.
My problem was I had a “quality” woman.
If I would have gotten a whore for that initial challenge I would have probably won a lot earlier in life. he he he
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The reason why there’s not mass immigration to Japan or Korea: Nobody wants to move there. And there are tons, tons of Iranians in Japan.
Make up your mind Gorb…there’s NOT mass immigration to Japan or their is TONS AND TONS.
This is what I mean about lying.
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And yea white woman just because somebody is educated and calls you wrong doesn’t mean what you say is not the truth. You don’t need to be educated to see the truth. The reality is.
The reality is that the less education you have the easier it is to see the truth.
Because when you face the truth of what is going on a man is almost forced to do something about it.
That is the problem and why the educated mind will protect itself from truth at all costs because it must preserve the body from dieing. he he he
The educated have many more ways of finding to not face truth.
But yea there is more than one truth.
It is true that whites are being fucked.
But it is also true that you can seperate yourself from system using some intelligence so at least the system doesn’t harm you or your family as much.
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Women that smoke and drink too much age particularly badly.
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I’m trying to do that Gun and I have “reserves”. Still though, I don’t want to just preserve myself…there are others to think about.
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@White Woman
Gorb you have been very crafty at making this about Jews. My fault for being easily diverted…probably need some nutrition.
Casual anti-semitism is just dumb. Normal dumb is fine. But this is a dangerous kind of dumb.
My problem is that only White/European countries are taking in (and subsidizing) third worlders and if we protest, we’re racists!
Who calls us racists? The Japanese?
For you, there’s “White people like me” and “Everyone else”.
Broaden your mind and see that there are all kinds of people: Those “Outside the Border” are not All Of A Kind.
Japan takes in lots of foreigners, actually. Korea is doing it in huge numbers, now, relatively speaking. They have no choice: there aren’t enough women for the men who need them. I used to drive by huge billboards that said “Foreign Wives Are Great!”. Half the Canadians and Australians I met there were marries to or getting married to Koreans (men and women). This is only getting more pronounced. Expect immigration to start in earnest in these places as Japan ages fast.
Poor countries are sources of migration, not destinations.
And *WE* let them in. If you go out tomorrow and try to emigrate to Russia, or Zaire, watch how easy it is.
There’s no conspiracy. Just a collection of coincidentally related facts. You’re seeing things that aren’t there.
Again, no one is trying to force or coerce Japan to take in millions of non-Japanese people.
NOBODY is coercing us. We don’t arm our southern border: why? Because *WE* choose not to, as a people. Not because Mexico objects.
They have a very tight immigration policy. Why can’t the U.S. Europe, Australia and Canada have the same policy without being called names?
Canada has a tight immigration policy. I’ve researched it. Actually, it seems like it was engineered by Eugenics supporters. I have no idea about refugees, but their points system basically cuts the wheat from the chaff. By and large, they’re selecting much higher-quality immigrants than we are. It’s not specifically for “white” people, but obviously they’ve decided that a high-quality Chinese immigrant is as good as the same from Russia.
I guarantee you this will end up with all these people fucking each other. And with this system, they’re better off than us right now, that’s for sure. The US has no system of any kind.
We all decided to do these things. We can vote against it. Don’t like it? Complain to your neighbor.
No great force is exterminating the White Race. You’re just stupid.
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*throws meat to the vultures*
white woman The reason why there’s not mass immigration to Japan or Korea: Nobody wants to move there. And there are tons, tons of Iranians in Japan.
A lot of African in Japan and a small number of African-Americans. I think there’s the language problem when moving to Korea or Japan.
white woman blame your problems with mass immigration on the British empire. they should of never taught their subjects English. That just made immigration to the West that much easier.
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It is also true though that all men in west are being fucked and have been being fucked.
It is also true that woman will never be equal to men until they have dicks not vaginas. They will always have more priveledges because they have vagis. While individualy men will do better overall because they have to be strong and get no passes.
woman will always have to use men to get there stregnth while men will get there strength through suffering.
Now in a place where they are held responsible as men for their actions you can find a strong woman.
Strength does not come from being coddled it comes from excercise and feats of endurance. It comes from pain and making it past obstacles and overcoming shit that makes a woman just cry and run and get a man to protect her.
Men have nobody to run to but themselves.
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I love it when people I’m debating with call me stupid…that means they are beginning to see the truth in what I’m saying and they are running out of responses.
Even liars and straw men run out of steam eventually.
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@WW,
Iranians in Japan: There are (relatively) tons of them. Not compared to OUR immigration levels – but compared to 0%, then it’s tons.
Relative.
Nobody is forcing them to do it. The Iranians go there to work, often stay – forever.
So – the same thing is starting there, too.
It’s not about Whiteness or whatever. There’s no conspiracy. There’s no genocide. It’s so dumb it boggles the mind.
There’s money and opportunity and *we* open the doors. BTW, we *always* opened the doors. This is our history. Also Canada and Australia. And the UK inherited the Empire.
Don’t want Thracians in Rome? Don’t build the Roman Empire.
Even India has immigrant communities.
It’s like seeing patterns in clouds – Look, it’s the Celestial Sheep!
You’ve bought into a cobbled together-theory (genocide! Disappearing white people! Jews somehow responsible! Oppression of the Pure Whiter Man!) from coincidences, convergences of disparate interests and incomplete facts.
Exactly the same as black people who believe wholeheartedly in the White Conspiracy to Exterminate Blacks with Aids.
That theory is, while obviously bogus, also more believable.
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Ohhh and add to that too much sun exposure , particularly under the harsh Australian sun.
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Because *WE* choose not to, as a people.
NO we do not choose to.
According to Wiki
Approximately 41% of people currently living in Canada are first or second generation immigrants.
I find this VERY telling.
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@WW
You’re just a troll.
You’ve offered no information. None of any kind.
You have none.
You just have some bizarre phlegm that you regurgitate. Really, tell me who’s orchestrated all of this.
I work in media. You can’t talk to me about media. I know all about it. All of the PC nutcases are SWPLs. Not Jews.
Actually, if anything, Jews are *more* diverse in their opinions than other white people. They couldn’t co-ordinate a conspiracy to steal bagels from the corner store. They’re not trying to exterminate the “American Nation” (white people).
You don’t see anything I’ve said; you never respond to my points; you just keep saying the same thing over and over like other True Believers. You have no facts. Nothing.
It’s like some sort of religion for you.
Actually, you do sound almost religious about it. I suspect this is not a rational belief for you.
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G you’d be a lot more believable if you carted out some statistics instead of anecdotes and wishful thinkings.
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Why do you keep bringing up Jew? It’s like you’re debating some WN meme instead of White Woman. Weird.
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This is the problem with life it is not a challenge in and of itself. I had it figured out at 18.
The problem to me is why would I live a life that was so easy to predict and go through the pain rather than just not living it.
This is the riddle that puzzles me.
I can predict anything I want in life and then prove it.
I have done this.
I can predict the rest of my life down to pretty much detail.
The shit is simple to me.
I enjoy it to an extent but still there is no actual challenge to it for me. Just going through the motions. lol
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Meant to say JewS…
See friends, Gorb is using this tactic to try to make me look like an anti-semite freak instead of just a concerned European/White person.
Gorb…you sound almost religious in your desire to keep White/Euros in the dark about White genocide.
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Gorb you said you’re a conservative right? What are you trying to conserve exactly?
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WW thought that J. Stalin was a member of the tribe who was doing what came naturally.
She could have googled it. Or, gasp, read a history book. Apparently she never does either.
But she does have time to spew comments here.
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@WW
Statistics:
Indicate to me that you’re worth it. Indicate to me that your opinions are more than just recycled hallucinations. Indicate to me that you’re worth 3 hours of my time to go to my library or go online and dredge our hard stats.
Things for you to read:
Richard J Evans, The coming of the Third Reich. Very good. Goes through the convoluted politics of pre-Hitler Germany.
Hitler’s Willing Executioners, Daniel Goldhagen. Good sections on how difficult it was to extricate the incredibly well-integrated Jews of Germany; how very German they were.
A lighter read for you might be Robert Wistrich’s “Hitler and the Holocaust”, which goes into great detail about the non-International Conspiracy aspect of the Jews.
I have a dozen more in my library if you want. Go and read. WWII and its rise was immensely more complex than you think. Start with those and then talk to me.
And indicate to me the people directly responsible for this complex, multinational plot to exterminate white people. You do seem to have a lot of information about this “Genocide” going on.
I’ll be curious to see which convenient non-White non-Jew you come up with as your bogeyman.
I’ll tell you who your bogeyman is:
Contingent history, coincidence and your fellow white people.
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I simply pointed out that Stalin was of Jewish descent. Why do I have to explain that to you?
Anyway, I am an equal opportunity White Nat. I don’t care what race or ethnicity you are (even mine). If you believe “multiculturalism” is a wonderful thing, you are anti-White/European.
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@WW
Gorb…you sound almost religious in your desire to keep White/Euros in the dark about White genocide.
You’ve given me no evidence to back up your outlandish – and frankly insultingly absurd – claim.
I see no evidence from anywhere that anyone wants to exterminate white people. Islamify us, yes. Exterminate, no.
HBDers are betrayed by hallucinating racialists like you.
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@WW
Gorb you said you’re a conservative right? What are you trying to conserve exactly?
My very fine Anglo culture. In its essence, all polyglot and amorphous and wonderful. In its ability to dominate and lead by example.
Not helped by your like.
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Or I can predict that when I have a certain amount of money coming in every month I will be able to have beyond mass hos and “quality” woman on my nuts.
Now is this a challenge
answer no
will it be enjoyable
answer yes
But it is all predictable.
a=b
Pathetic.
But the best you can do in this life I guess as far as having the ability to say you won the game.
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fun fact: white woman is a feminist troll mascarding as a racist.
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WHO has planned the genocide is not as important as knowing it exists.
There are lots of books out there that support my position as well Gorb. A smart person reads information from both sides and tries to decide who is telling the truth.
I’m afraid I’m done for tonight. I’ve been fooling around here on and off for (I’m afraid to think about how many) hours and I really need to get a couple of things done.
Goodbye for now.
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WW did indeed “simply say that Stalin was of Jewish descent.” What she cannot do is provide any support for that claim.
I pointed out that he was Catholic, enough so to have entered Seminary. Any bio will tell you that. She did not dispute this (since she cannot) so instead she puts her thumbs in her ears and goes nananana. Thus protecting the fragile contents of her brain from any pertubations.
She why you are not getting anywhere?
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RE: Stalin. For one thing, Joseph is not a Russian name. One of Stalin’s sons was named Yakov…Jacob.
Someone’s membership in the Catholic church hardly makes them non-Jewish….
You guys need to turn on your critical thinking caps.
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Gorby Dawkins:
Look, I never said there was nothing to racial identity: as a biological reality, it’s not just real, but obvious. Denying it is intellectually perverse.
WW said it best:
Tell you what big G. If all the African/Jewish/Arab/”Latino”/and other races/ethnic groups give up their racial identity, including their constant demand for repartation from the White (there’s that word again) race, I’ll do the same. Not until.
Gorby is like a sheriff coming between warring factions in some western town and only speaking to one side of the divide, telling them, “Look, violence is not the solution to our problems, it only makes things worse, lets just put our guns down and talk it out”, all while the other side is locking and loading.
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@ Default User
LOL
Nice video
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Joseph Stalin’s real name was Iosef Djugashvili. Djugashvili means son of Jew in the Georgian language.
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white woman,
the opening of that banjo/guitar piece sounds like sitar.
for some odd reason, pupu has always thought you are of indian origin perhaps you mentioned it at some point.
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””””””’Tupac Chopra
Gorby Dawkins:
Look, I never said there was nothing to racial identity: as a biological reality, it’s not just real, but obvious. Denying it is intellectually perverse.
WW said it best:
Tell you what big G. If all the African/Jewish/Arab/”Latino”/and other races/ethnic groups give up their racial identity, including their constant demand for repartation from the White (there’s that word again) race, I’ll do the same. Not until.
Gorby is like a sheriff coming between warring factions in some western town and only speaking to one side of the divide, telling them, “Look, violence is not the solution to our problems, it only makes things worse, lets just put our guns down and talk it out”, all while the other side is locking and loading.
”””””””””””
Exactly just like my dad.
son there are gangs of black people beating the shit out of single white dudes and killing them.
dad son there are good black just like there are bad whites.
son yea but I have never seen with my own eyes a gang of whites beat the shit out of anyone alone nor a woman.
Dad son there are good blacks just like there are bad whites.
son yea but dude are you mental what can I do to protect myself from the bullshit.
dad son there are good blacks just like there are bad whites.
son dad I don’t want to live in this world can you please kill me
dad no that would be against god.
lol wtf.
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Thanks Tupac.
In fairness to Gorb, I don’t blame him for his feelings…White/Europeans have been under some heavy duty brainwashing for a long time and from all sides…his fears are normal considering the fact that people like him are considered “normal” in society and people like me are considered “hateful”. No one wants to be called names or considered a banjo playing, illiterate, trailer park living, evil racist, as White Nationalists always seem to be portrayed.
Oh and lest I forget, we are always called SUPREMACISTS. That turns everyone off, of course. Most of us aren’t supremacists…we just don’t want to be discriminated against but that’s how the media spins it. Just like all Tea Partiers are called racists by many.
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Yea both my parents mastered degreed up very hard to try to explain reality to them.
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No pupu, I’m not Indian. Irish.
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“Thank you” to some compulsive repeat commenters who are such tiresome marathon blowhard know-it-alls …
Your endless posturing, pontificating, clearly compensating for something sadly lacking in your non-internet life, etc
has gotten soooo fucking tedious and pathetic.
You have reduced the pleasure of reading the comments thread on this blog wayyyy down from what it used to be.
Now the good stuff here is just about buried by endless yakety yak postings from the boring chronic verbal gushers.
Many of you ignore good observations or clever remarks (by commenters who don’t spew epics of tedious verbosity)
because your main reward here is exchanging mutual recognition, confirmation of special identity, etc with your little buddies (‘I see you!’ ‘Ooh, I see you too! Hi!’)…
… or because your main reward here is spewing rancid, toxic, sadly chronic anger & hatred (revealing your steadfast personal misery about yourself), even if you may pretend that you will appreciate (and acknowledge?) worthy comments when you see them.
As a result of this prevailing pattern, some of you busy commenters here are really helping me to change my ways, breaking free of a semi-addiction, to stop wasting so much time reading this blog, thus freeing up lots of precious time to go do other options which will be a far more rewarding use of my time.
So thank you, very much.
Carry on.
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sorry, white woman. pupu’s head gets mixed up a lot these days. somehow, she remembered you had made some very perceptive observations of the indian society at some point…
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WW
The only people who make that claim about Stalins family name are white nationalists and their ilk. His family were Russian Orthodox. Kids like Joseph were not admitted to Seminaries if they had names that everybody in that language knew revealed them to be not-orthodox.
The Nazis never claimed Stalin was Jewish. Maybe no one in the Nazi organization was ever able to decipher this massive clue as to Stalin identity. Or maybe they knew that claim was too unbelievable for even them to try.
BTW, they claimed Roosevelt and W. Churchill were both secretly Jewish. Which was madness.
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But yea ok because of that my mom probably did read every book on planet about raising kids so she understood what the education system was going to try and turn me into so she did fight tooth and nail to make sure I grew up a man not a beta bitch boy. She would take on the system for me when I got in my fights and win he he he
Although I wish they would have understood how important trades were.
My dad did try to teach me to mechanic but I didn’t want to do shit for free.
That didn’t make sense.
I couldn’t connect the money and future freedom with the repairing of vehicles.
But yea why for my son I am gonna make sure he connects being able to do anything with the reality that it pays well to be able to do that if you market it correctly. Plus he will see living example.
I mean my dad could do anything but he got destroyed and then didn’t want to achieve any more. So I saw that side and it was like ok he can do anything but it didn’t pay off in the end.
Why to be a man you must not only be able to do shit but you must take your pay for that value you have and save up the value in the form of cash. Then you have freedom from bullshit and add meaning to your effort.
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@chic noir
fun fact: white woman is a feminist troll mascarding as a racist.
Good one. Thanks for the chuckle.
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Hey PA.
Solschenitsyn was a Russian Nationalist, he was also one of the biggest humanist as well. i just find it thick to see an white race nationalist video where Solschenitsyn that btw had very anti-american thoughts btw disagreeing with American culture and praising the Russian.
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I remember that comment pupu.
I guess “bored by typical chatter” put us in our places huh?
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I should mention that all 3 of Stalin’s wives were Jewish…anyway, that was a long time ago and has nothing to do with the White/European genocide by assimilation that is taking place now.
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”””””’As a result of this prevailing pattern, some of you busy commenters here are really helping me to change my ways, breaking free of a semi-addiction, to stop wasting so much time reading this blog, thus freeing up lots of precious time to go do other options which will be a far more rewarding use of my time.
So thank you, very much.
Carry on.
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Well yea but then after that then what.
You have not lived enough life to be enlightened.
Life ain’t like a box of chocolates you don’t know what your gonna get. It is a very predictable piece of shit game that you could not get a kid to play if you tried under current ruleset.
This blog makes it fun because it doesn’t carry the life ruleset. You can make your own rules. In real life there is a very narrow range of rules that you need to fit in and you win game. Here there are almost no rules therefore a fun break from life and its drearyness. Although sure life can be fun to if you treat it like this blog. But yea go to work and love that shit lol yea watch tv yea stare at wall. Get involved with some stuff. What is there?
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Guns
Sorry you’re bored…it must be fun coaching your son….
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”””””bored by typical chatter
“Thank you” to some compulsive repeat commenters who are such tiresome marathon blowhard know-it-alls …
Your endless posturing, pontificating, clearly compensating for something sadly lacking in your non-internet life, etc
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You know who the tiresome know it all is. It is the educated fool who never takes a look at the reality around him but only sees reality in a pile of books but never lives it nor acknowledges its existance.
But they can put a lot of copycat flows of words out there. That is for dam sure. They cannot come up with their own concepts though and can only bite off other peoples shit.
They come with no revelations about truth.
Nor can they tell you how to beat the game.
Nor can they tell you what is better in life.
They can only say that they are gonna go ahead and go do something better but not say what that better thing is to give people a chance to see if maybe they should be doing it to.
They have nothing but words and no fucking balls.
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@dalrock
With all of this discussion of white nationalism, jews, etc, I’ll throw out a plug for Guy White’s blog. He’s a white nationalist (I believe) who takes on the anti semites. Makes for interesting reading.
Dalrock – nice find.
Indeed, he does. His blog about this issue is called Semitism. Nicely distills it all.
And this guy, White Woman, is a hard-core bona-fide racialist white guy, which you can see hard and clear on his Guy White blog.
No need to replicate anything said there here. White Woman can go and read it all there.
Nice to know there’s a brand of everything out there: A White Nationalist who isn’t an anti-semite, and a clever non-anti-semite he is.
I read a lot of his blog. He seems to be demolishing the whole Jewish Conspiracy thing well.
Of course, he’s still a white nationalist, but you can’t have your cake, as they say.
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”””’White Woman
Guns
Sorry you’re bored…it must be fun coaching your son….
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Well yea but it will be cool to prove another hypothesis and then that truth can be passed down the line so that at least my line will be freemen under pretty much any conditions that may come in future. Then just explain how woman work and how to test woman to insure they meet the needed standard. Then plenty of time to find worlds with no rules(games, blogs) he he he
I do try to make the most of it since I am stuck here anyway.
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Oh Gorb…we’ve already established that I’m not an anti-semite or anti…anyone.
I am FOR my race. The White/European race.
As I’ve mentioned before folks, Gorb is trying to give me the reputation of an anti-semite so that people will think I’m a “hater” and discount the things I say about White/European genocide. Don’t be fooled.
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WW – “I should mention that all 3 of Stalins wives were Jewish.’ Well, that might explain why he was such a raving, murderous anti-semite. Or, it might be that WW spends her/his/its time locked in a neonazi box and is blind to other inputs.
I just don’t fucking get it. Why this mindless obsession? If I were Jewish I think I would carry an Uzi with me at all times and spray bullets into any body who even looked like he/she/it might be a “white nationalist,”
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@WW
Your enemy is the white people who enact affirmative action. Not the black people desperate to benefit from it.
Lots of black people hate affirmative action, BTW.
And that video just shows up your ability to draw the wrong conclusions from the wrong evidence – again.
South Africa is, once again, a different cultural context. I spent a year there in the early 90’s. Believe you me: The white people of South Africa are lucky like lottery winners that Mandela didn’t die, and that he was the first black president. And that “One Settler, One Bullet” didn’t become reality.
We can talk about racism and whatever. I’m under no illusions that Africa is a haven of good government. But I’ll tell you this: it’s not more corrupt in South Africa now. The Afrikaners were wretched, lazy, and useless government serviles; they represented the worst of the Entitlement Government “workers” class.
The cops there were savage animals under Apartheid; and, regardless of racial hierarchies, the white population of South Africa truly had it coming, they had it coming so hard, after decades of vicious lies and whorish nastiness.
From the perspective of global history, I can say this: They were lucky to be allowed to live. In most cases, a fully justified war of revolution, with millions up against the wall, was the smell in the air.
I’m saying this as a white guy who lived there for a year and mostly dealt with white people, white people I liked. There’s a great book, called “Waiting: The Whites of South Africa”, written before the fall of apartheid. Summed it up nicely, at least from the English point of view (the English there are their own, more or less, separate caste: They had the money and the brains, the Afrikaners the numbers and, well, the farms, definitely not the brains: Stereotypically stupid, as seen by 1990’s English South Africans).
These white Anglos had the same guilt that the generation after WWII did in Germany:
They knew they had it coming. They knew they deserved to be overthrown in a revolution and that the little sweet facts they bragged about (Highest white home ownership in the western world, etc.) were indictments against them. They knew how bad it was in the townships. They knew about the endless “suicides” in the cop shops with their terrifying blue lights signaling Don’t Fucking Go In There Or You’re Dead. They knew about the terrors in the night and the Disappearances and they knew the cops were doing all this in their names.
They knew about the “Homelands” and what went on there. They knew their time was coming. And they all felt guilty as shit. And they all privately believed, you could feel it, that they absolutely deserved everything that might happen to them.
The chanting in that video comes out of a brutal situation that has no parallel in MODERN America.
Black people here don’t chant that. They have no reason to.
Black people in South Africa *Had* reason to, at the time.
Not that I wanted to see that. I like those people. They were great. Especially (name); she was a wonderful young woman.
Actually, I had a blast there. It was awesome for a white person.
The fact that 80% of the population lived in waking terror or casual desperation was easily shut out.
So stop calling up black South African revolutionary chants and talking about the threats to the White Nation.
Has less than no relevance in North America: Also misleading.
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Oh and by all means White friends…please, please don’t read Guy White’s blog at http://guywhite.wordpress.com/
Snicker.
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@White Woman
RE: Stalin. For one thing, Joseph is not a Russian name. One of Stalin’s sons was named Yakov…Jacob.
Someone’s membership in the Catholic church hardly makes them non-Jewish….
You guys need to turn on your critical thinking caps.
?????
Woman, the guy might have had Jewish roots, but so do zillions of other people who don’t even know about it. Maybe even you. Any ancestors from the British Isles? Jews were all over that place, from the 2nd century on. Mostly intermarried and disappeared. Modern Jews arrived in the 17th-18th centuries. Almost all of them intermarried and disappeared, too. A small group self-identified and remained. They’re fucking white people. ‘Poof’ and they just vanish.
Stalin was one of the worst Jew-baiters and jew-butchers in the history of the world. He was an anti-semite to make any American White nationalist look like a Jew-lover and Philosemite.
Go here and test out all of your arguments, because if you’re stuck on somebody’s Jewish blood, you need some professional thrashing.
http://semitism.wordpress.com/
Have a go with him. He may have effectively pre-thrashed you to bits.
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@bored by typical chatter
Looks around, notices the venue, looks down at plates smashed on floor, staff looking on in horror
Uh, um, Ahem. Yes, right. Jolly-o. How embarrassing.
Sorry ’bout that. I’ll just … take … it … outside.
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Rum said:
“Why this mindless obsession? If I were Jewish I think I would carry an Uzi with me at all times and spray bullets into any body who even looked like he/she/it might be a “white nationalist,”
First well at least you’re honest about wanting to kill White/Euros that don’t agree with you Rum. Kind of illustrates my point. Are you a Jewish Anti-White Person or a White traitor? What DO you think White Nationalists look like, btw? Is it…..their skin color that gives them away?
And it’s an obsession why? Because I’m talking about it and it makes you uncomfortable?
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So the “really nice” people you knew in South Africa “had it coming”.
You’re a racist. You are saying that perfectly nice people deserve something bad to happen to them based only on the color of their skin.
You are racist. And against your own people.
You and Rum with his UZI make a great team.
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WW
Because the truth matters.
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Yes I am a bit obsessed with Truth and I’m glad I know the Truth about your anti-White feelings.
I on the other hand don’t hate anyone.
So if I don’t roll over and let you say anything you want, I’m obsessed….I see.
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I’m still taken aback at your Uzi comment Rum.
And they try to paint White Nationalists as violent.
Pot, meet kettle.
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”””””Gorbachev
@WW
Your enemy is the white people who enact affirmative action. Not the black people desperate to benefit from it.
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It is both actually. But it is not affirmative action that mostly affect the average white person. It is the hud housing free to the blacks that is the problem. Why you have like my black girlfriend in the states right before I came to indo.
What she was doing is pulling every fucking dreg as piece of shit black chick to start there new lives in a predominatly white area. So you got these blacks coming in and they are brutal coming from inner city ghettos to the basic country and going to school with white kids. Now you got more and more coming because it is a safe area. They are not coming and paying rent though. They are being paid to live there by the government and social programs. They like the white area because it is easier to get more benefits because they are black. So what is happening is they are taking over whole areas interspersed with the white people who are paying rent who are paying mortgages. Then you have there boyfriends and family coming in from the big city and trying to act hard and bringing the drugs and robbing people and shit. Now there kids are again starting to fill up the school with blacks. They are getting in fights at school and it is always because the white kid called them a nigger. Then you have a fight between the son and his sister on a schoolbus where they are also taking swings at the bus driver. I guess the calling a nigger didn’t work on that one he he he
But yea so a pretty big disruption in the school.
Then because the white boys are like wtf is going on.
Then you have white boys lives destroyed because they make a list of black people to kill and the list gets passed on and of course they must be punished. The white boys don’t really know why the black people are coming in droves to their area. They are trying to defend it from the mongol invasion. But yea your right it was probably some white people passing the laws that made it possible.
But that doesn’t mean that having the whites in that area are not the enemy either.
They are the enemy the black people are responsible for causing pain.
Just yea the hud laws make it possible for them to move there.
But the blacks must be responsible for their own actions as well right?
Taking a formerly decent area and turning it into a shithole.
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Good point Guns
Regarding WHO the enemy is, there are plenty, of course, including Gorb and Rum. Throw a stick in any direction and you are likely to hit a person who is anti-White.
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@WW
White Woman
So the “really nice” people you knew in South Africa “had it coming”.
You’re a racist. You are saying that perfectly nice people deserve something bad to happen to them based only on the color of their skin.
You are racist. And against your own people.
You and Rum with his UZI make a great team.
You have the post-modernist collectivist antithought language down pat, I have to tell you.
First: I said I’d go away with this. I guess I tried.
I’m not a racist- in that I hate whites. I think that, in the late 80’s in South Africa, the white population was in the position of being absolute masters of a country that was 80% black and, as such, having Barbies while 80% of the people were getting beaten to shit by cops and crushed under a truly oppressive yoke, they knew the situation couldn’t last. Lots of white people fooled themselves and said it wasn’t that bad: but the facts came out later. The kids knew better 10 years after the fall of Apartheid. All the lies were gone.
Normally, that upper class (happened to be white) would have been exterminated. This is what you get in revolutions of the masses. I didn’t advocate a war on white people.
Instead, happily, Nelson Mandela was there and was a wonderful president for *all* South Africans. When it counted.
The Truth and Reconciliation Commission helped cut the tensions, later.
No hatred for white people. Just a comment that, in places without guys like Nelson Mandela, the lower classes eat the upper classes when they win the tug of war.
So white people in South Africa were insanely lucky in Nelson Mandela.
Lots of white people loved – and love – him for exactly this.
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Course you know me.
I was talking the talk without the black men and woman.
And no beatdown.
And nothing happened to me.
One time black dude got angry when I said that I used to dream about killing black people in droves when young trying to do my part to solve the problem.
But his black wife understood why and came to my defense.
I do got to say I had some pretty hard core talks with them and to their credit they understood where I was coming from. Mostly though I had a good time.
But yea affirmative action is where after having exposed white people to how blacks are they then tell the white person that the blacks need a job more than the white person does lol
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No back pedaling Gorb. You are a racist. I’m not going to let anyone forget that you said perfectly nice White people that you knew “had it coming”. That is a racist remark….do you not understand that?
What if I said that since some men in the US. are murderers that all MEN should be punished? Isn’t that the crap Feminists try to pull off?
I really hope you’ll think about your racism and whether it is rational for a White man to feel that perfectly nice White people need to be persecuted for the color of their skin. That’s just sick.
And the Uzi comment by Rum….egads…what can one say to that?
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WW
Silly girl. I have no problem, at all, with violence. And the thing is, I have an amazing pedigree as a child of the South. I have so many fore-bearers who fought for the Confederacy & at the highest ranks that if they had won I would be effing royalty.
I was raised by brutally intolerant parents. They thought blacks were barely human. Mexicans were OK if they worked hard and stayed away from the house. But anybody who was smart and worked hard for success was OK. Completely OK. So, from their point of view, Jewish people were on the whole entirely admirable. And marriable.
But stupid trailer-trash level bigotry was just that. Stupid and lower class.
Get off my porch or I will let the dogs loose.
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There you go with that Anti-semite crap again. I’m not an anti-semite.
I’m anti people like you Gorb…White people who think innocent White people need to be punished.
I’m anti people like Rum…who fantasizes about killing White Nationalists with UZIs. SICK.
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@White Woman
Good point Guns
Regarding WHO the enemy is, there are plenty, of course, including Gorb and Rum. Throw a stick in any direction and you are likely to hit a person who is anti-White.</I.
So now I'm anti-white, because I'm not mindlessly pro-white?
Oh – I get it. Unless I follow the ideology of the Tribe, I'm an enemy? Riiight, … I have to be hallucinogenically suspicious of Jews (not of the tribe!) and knee-jerkingly support whatever White Person cause you seem to deem appropriate?
Even if I'm an Irish-Scot white military-family old-blood family Been-In-America-for-300-Years Anglo American who spends a month every year hunting and who wants to shut down our immigration system and assimilate everyone and keep the Islamiscists out, … conservative would be a mild way to describe me. I can barely conceal my contempt for everything "leftie" in my daily life.
That makes me the fucking enemy? If you can't convince me, woman, or even start an inch down that road, or even learn how to speak these issues to me, then your ability to open the eyes of anyone is negative several million. Seriously, if there's an audience for Anti-Semitic White Nationalism it's me. Forget the Rubicon: you can't even get across Squiggle Creek.
*I* am the audience for this shite. If I can't even be brought to the edge of the water, nobody can.
If *I'm* your enemy, the rest of America is a dead zone for you.
You didn't seem completely retarded, but like all zombie white nationalists, you're unable to examine your core beliefs.
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down to what’s in our DNA, according to a recent discovery by scientists at the University of Texas at Austin.
In a study of women between the ages of 17 and 30, those with higher levels of estradiol (an ovarian hormone that gives a woman the physical characteristics most desired by men—think high cheek bones, symmetrical facial features, and an hourglass figure) were more likely to flirt, kiss, and have a serious affair with someone other than their primary partner than were those with lower levels of this reproductive hormone.
“For women who have more estradiol, their brains essentially tell them, ‘You’re a hot commodity: Your fertility is high, you can get the best-looking guy with the best resources, so go for it,’ ” says Kristina Durante, Ph.D., a postdoctoral research associate at the University of Minnesota and coauthor of the study. “It’s not that a high level of this hormone makes a woman sleep around, but it may unconsciously inspire her to keep her options open and trade up for a better partner if one comes along— particularly if she’s not satisfied with her current partner.”
Of course, biology is only one part of the equation; not all women who cheat have more estradiol pumping through their bodies. Wendy, a 35-year-old college professor in New York City who describes herself as “wiry,” lacks those highly desirable female traits that point to higher levels of the hormone. And yet, when boredom set in with her live-in boyfriend, she started sleeping with her ex-lover. “Having sex with my ex behind my current boyfriend’s back was an escape from the mundane home life that I was living,” she says. “Plus, the sex I had with my boyfriend wasn’t always the best—but it was hot with my ex.”
More research tells us, though, that biology can also contribute to that kind of dissatisfaction with a husband or boyfriend and lead any woman to stray, regardless of her estradiol levels—specifically, how we think our partner smells. You’ve probably heard about the research showing that the more you like a guy’s natural scent, the more dissimilar your genetic makeup is likely to be, and the more sexually attracted you’ll be to him because of the high chance that you’ll make healthy, good-looking babies. Well, scientists at the University of New Mexico wanted to know if partners’ genetic similarity had anything to do with their sexual satisfaction too. So they studied 48 heterosexual couples who had been together for at least two years, quizzing them about their sexual histories and testing them for genetic compatibility. Sure enough, the more similar a woman’s genetic makeup was to her partner’s, the less she seemed to enjoy having sex with him and the more likely she was to report having had affairs.
http://lifestyle.ca.msn.com/love-sex-relationships/rodale-article.aspx?cp-documentid=24889134
gee guys, lets all go get married, I can hardly wait !
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Now from her perspective I understood why she would move from where she was to try and have a better life for her kids but when she brought every relative and friend with her she didn’t understand how that was gonna create the same problem she fled from.
So I did try to drill the save money work hard be free meme into their heads as well and tried to explain to her sons how to make it in life because they were not gonna get a free ride to same extent.
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Are you a bot or just plain stubborn.
I am not an anti-semite.
You on the other hand are a racist against your own people. Sick.
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@WW
No back pedaling Gorb. You are a racist. I’m not going to let anyone forget that you said perfectly nice White people that you knew “had it coming”. That is a racist remark….do you not understand that?
I know why Roissy goes to town on some people. Some really, really ignorant people.
I fucking lived in South Africa. I knew people there. I spoke with them, bedded at least one, worked with them. This shit I know. You don’t know sweet fuck all. Seriously, no wonder half-baked White Nationalist pseudo-knowledge goes so far with you.
And you’re such a goddamned liar. It’s like arguing with True Believer creationists who trot out their sophistry whenever it’s convenient.
I shall clarify and you can quote the fuck out of me if you so feel like it. You’re so desperate to call me a racist – woman, if I’m an anti-white racist, the White Nationalist movement in this country is totally lost.
The *governing class* in South Africa in the late 80’s happened to be white. As a governing class facing a looming revolution, a revolution that was morally consistent with everything we claim to understand as justice, in a situation where the whites had radicalized everything over the issue of Race in the most deliberately, consciously Racialized society in the post-Colonial world: They also had it coming, and coming hard. I don’t need to backpedal that. I’m clarifying so you get it right.
They were white people, and those *specific* white people as a governing class absolutely, unequivocally, morally and justifiable has it coming to them, absolutely, you can quote me wherever and whenever you want.
And I liked those white people. I lived with them. I thought they were great as people. I related to them. But as a governing class lording it over misery and fear, …
They absolfuckinglutely had it coming to them. And what’s more: They KNEW THIS themselves.
Admitting this makes me no more anti-white racist than it made them anti-white racist to privately admit these things. They said it all the time: They were terrified of Black Rule, because they knew there were some serious fucking scores to settle, and they knew that they deserved it. All of it. One Afrikaner, an old guy, told me: I know the blacks are going to take over everything. We’ve been total shit. If the Blacks are smart, they’ll shoot every white person. That’s what I’d do. We don’t deserve it, we were utter assholes. And this guy was nationalist an Afrikaner as they came. He knew the score.
These white people knew it. Absolutely. They talked about it. They admitted that this was why they feared black rule. And it’s why they loved Nelson Mandela for being the man he was. And they were thankful that Winnie Mandela was nowhere near anything even smelling like power.
And you can quote me. I’ll say it again:
The white ruling class of South Africa had it coming to them. And they got off awfully easy. And they’re grateful and happy about it. Angry about a lot else, but happy about that.
This is what I DID NOT SAY: I did not say that white people have it coming.
What if I said that since some men in the US. are murderers that all MEN should be punished? Isn’t that the crap Feminists try to pull off?
I really hope you’ll think about your racism and whether it is rational for a White man to feel that perfectly nice White people need to be persecuted for the color of their skin. That’s just sick.
And the Uzi comment by Rum….egads…what can one say to that?
You claim to only love white people, and not hate other races. Or Jews. But your casual anti-semitism is way too controlled: given the fact that hysterical nutjobs who believe the shit out there about Jews and the conspiracy nuts exist in such plentiful numbers, … I can see why Rum would say that.
Too careful. Too polished.
Ugly tribalism of the same sort. Always stinks the same, no matter where you smell it.
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Exactly though without the hud laws the blacks wouldn’t be able to move into white areas unless they worked and saved the money to do it. So they probably wouldn’t turn it into a shithole. So yea take away the laws and probably less problems. Quit experimenting with people. With the housing acts and afirmative action and equal opportunity and the destroying of boys lives in school. But what happens is that those laws are made because then the blacks move in cause problems then you make more laws because people want them then you end up with nobody having freedom to do shit and zero tolerance everywhere you look.
So that is the point. White men are shit on by the blacks that move in from hud then are shit on by the white males that make the laws. Then are shit on by equal opportunity not for them, then are shit on by the feminatzi laws, then are shit on by divorce laws then are shit on about how they can’t fuck as good as a black man he he he.
But what can they do about it?
And they still couldn’t stop me.
If I were you and you were me I would use your body to beat the system.
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@Z- Dg
What a nice distraction, back to the point of this thread, Z-Dg.
Thank ye.
On that article:
Scary, isn’t it?
Makes marrying oh so much more attractive.
Make sure she likes the way you smell.
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Not you Guns.
Hey can someone babysit Gorb for me while I’m asleep…reminding everyone that I’m not an anti-semite…he’s fixated on propagating this falsehood.
White Nationalists come in many different shapes and sizes. We are Catholic, Protestant, Atheist, Agnostic and Pagan. We are Republican, Democrat, Liberal, Conservative and Libertarian. We’re a pretty diverse group!
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””””White Woman
Are you a bot or just plain stubborn.
I am not an anti-semite.
You on the other hand are a racist against your own people. Sick.”””””””’
Here is the problem for a man. ok
You can see a problem but what is the solution?
Well for a man it usually is gonna entail sacrificing himself for a cause. but yea what if you don’t want to do that or can’t find a good enough reason to do so?
Well you can save yourself at least first because otherwise your only help you can give is your martyrdom but again if you do not have enough personal hurt from it hard to do.
Then once you do that saving of yourself. You can try to come up with some things you can do to try to help people.
But really what are your solutions to what your talking about white woman?
Just get the word out.
I don’t get it either.
I mean you can help your family but what then.
Really after I have completed myself then maybe I could come up with some contructive shit. I don’t know.
But the shit against all men is pretty embedded in the us.
The shit against white men is pretty embedded and yea blacks are trying to live their lives too.
How would you fix a problem that you see?
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The biggest challenge Guns, is waking up White people. Affirmative action and the HUD type experimentation you mentioned (among other things) would never have happened if White people weren’t made to feel guilty all the time.
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And frankly White men are generally easier to awaken than White women…much to my chagrin.
I would guess that a White man that is not a mangina would be smart enough to know that multi-culturalism is just as dangerous as feminism. Just a guess though.
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Must. Stop. Posting. Now.
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””””””’Gorbachev
@WW
Gorb…you sound almost religious in your desire to keep White/Euros in the dark about White genocide.
You’ve given me no evidence to back up your outlandish – and frankly insultingly absurd – claim.
I see no evidence from anywhere that anyone wants to exterminate white people. Islamify us, yes. Exterminate, no.
HBDers are betrayed by hallucinating racialists like you.
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Well actually gorb my final solution would be to exterminate everyone but some asians is what I came up with. Rather than have the whole world have the same problems as the west. Just beginning cure all solution though. Since yea it is hard to know what to do to try to change it. Really just repeal some laws would make big diference but it just seems to keep snowballing and it shows no signs of slowing.
”””””Gorb
Individualism is the greatest social tool the modern world invented. It smashes victim-culture and the rampant abuses it causes. It’s the cure.
I wear contact lenses to correct my genetically bad eyesight.
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Yea your probably right on this individualism. Smashing victim culture I like that. I feel your pain because really solutions to the problem of lack of freedom is a bitch but I guess we may be at the pinnacle in a reality for people who are able to practice rugged individualism they can succeed there kids can succeed. So yea maybe system working and it is just life that is painfull. Just if could get rid of the divorce shit but maybe that would cause other problems. Just that yea I moved to a place that doesn’t have divorce laws and equal opportunity but people still live as individuals and are forced to take responsibility for themselves. So yea I believe that is the cure. But yea they do get family help to but that is a good thing. But yea fuck the victim shit. Otherwise yea you never break free and become better as an individual.
Getting people to believe that they can’t succeed because of something broad is a lot easier than getting them to believe it is their personal fault for not succeeding.
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Guns…you want to kill people….
Not necessary or desirable. You were just joking right?
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Yea in conversations with any color person.
“””””””””””””””YOU”””””””””””
can save money and succeed. This will take work and sacrifice on.
“””””””””YOUR””””””””
part but it will have a massive payout.
“”””””””””””YOU”””””””””
just have to not spend the money that
“””””””””YOU'”””””””
make and save it up till
“”””””YOU””””””””
have a nice chunk and then invest that in something that has a boring stable return.
“”””””””THEIR””””””””””
reply is that (insert some foreign power, some race, something) stops them from doing that.
They rarely understand that it is only
“”””””THEM AS THE INDIVIDUAL”””””””””
that stops them from doing that.
But yea being born into right family helps but almost anyone can work 84 hours a week and save money.
Even in indo where they are poor. People save up the money to buy their own houses cash and have them built with cash. They make like 150 to 200 a month and save money and buy big ticket items. So yea for americans there really is no excuse but that they as an individual failed.
But yea there are still some obstacles that could be removed but yea I guess I have to admit system working since there are options. At the same time it does add some pain for men because you can’t marry an american chick but this might be a gift because then you can just jump to another country where you can get a nice chick that isn’t planning on using you for slave but might really fall in love with you.
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””””White Woman
Guns…you want to kill people….
Not necessary or desirable. You were just joking right?
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What the fuck do you think a man who wakes up and discovers he is being fucked is gonna do.
Twiddle his thumbs.
Yea you need to quit trying to wake men up.
You have no clue.
When men are fucked beyond breaking point they kill that is what a man does.
Obviously I have not been fucked past my breaking point because I have found other solutions to avoid the fucking.
The solution to a problem might not be one you like so yea might just want to keep living your life to the best of your capability and quit showing people something is fucked but then having no solutions.
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Gorb, if I had the capacity to feel shame, I’d be feeling it for my ignorance on matters of history and politics and so much else.
At least I come at the issue wide eyed and fresh when I ask about this comment:
Well, I’m not sure why the whites just didn’t continue on with brutal oppression. I’m not convinced that it would not have been the best thing to do. Are you sure they didn’t have the means to do so?
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Yea that is pretty much what I want to be free to be an individual person. To do what I want to do. To keep the fruits of my labor and fuck who I want to fuck and be able to have agreements with people that I want to make. Without people interfering with that.
Other than that I could give a fuck.
“excuses are like assholes everyone has one and they all stink”
I don’t really put shit out as like that is what holds me back because nothing out there could hold me back.
I just don’t like the pain that the diferent programs cause and also magnify. Without the divorce shitstorm that happens people could break up but it wouldn’t affect the kids so much and woman wouldn’t be able to use kids as a tool to get men. People could just be individuals and take responsibility for their own actions. I think their would be less pain without the equality laws and all that shit.
Then I wouldn’t have been able to fuck with the black guys in iraq about them getting job because they were black lol
And all they could do was laugh about it because they knew it was true.
Yea I am thinking that is the way to promised land.
Not that there aren’t poor here but yea individuals decide to give them food or not. So yea I contribute to some poor people on a daily basis food. Feels good to be able to do that as an individual. My wifes mom cooks the food that is handed out and the poor people give us best wishes and say a prayer to god that we may become even richer.
I think this is what kind of keeps the poor and middle class and rich here in somewhat harmony in a way. Or also the poor work for the rich. I don’t know it is wierd to see daily. Just people being people with almost no artificial influence.
Give it some more time I guess I am not an expert yet on it.
I mean really I am living in like a million dollar house compound and got poor people with almost nothing behind me. Then you got other housing compounds. The shit is wierd beyond belief. But then the poor can work the fields and save there loot and become rich relatively.
gorb
I do see point it is like no responsibility to fuck up your life helping others of a group because they are individuals who can help themselves. Which is the way I have been trying to see it. Guys can still make it. They just need to look at reality and overcome some odds. Puts the shit in perspective especially when your ready for the next push into the next phase of making loot.
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I have a horror story to tell. Not satisfied being late 40s with three marriage-material girlfriends 29, 26 and 25, I was following PUA Rule #1 last week (always be on the hunt and opening) on a hot summer day.
At a vegetable stand I saw at a distance what seemed to be a hot put-together 9 in her mid 20s. I asked her if the garlic at this stand was fresh enough for a man who is discerning about cooking gourmet meals. Then I realized up close that she was only an 8 and I started ignoring her.
But the opener had been too good damn it. She started asking me where I was from and whether I was new in the neighborhood. I asked her for her number more to get rid of her because a real 9 or even a 10 could come into view at any moment (I will explain why being shallow is entirely necessary).
We had a good first date in which I learned she was in her early 30s with a 10 year old child. I held off judgement about whether I wanted to have sex with her or not (I should have known that, if I have to wonder about that, that is not good news). The second date, of course, was going to be something where I could see her in a bathing suit. Men are cruel to themselves and the woman if they don’t find a reason to see her undressed on the 2nd date in order to know if he’s going to be sexually attracted.
Yesterday she took me to a lakeside beach with swarms of hot young women in bikinis lounging around. We found a secluded spot and…..she revealed that she preferred the new 3 piece bathing suits that involve a big silk skirt that completely hides the legs and the butt.
It took 10 minutes for me to convince her to go swimming so I could see her body. I finally got to see it and I wasn’t turned on – she wasn’t fat but, rather, too thin and she didn’t have the tone of youth or at least the tone of regular trips to a gym – but I figured that maybe I just needed to look at her for more than a few seconds so I could get attracted. But, after swimming, she wrapped that silk accessory around and, when I directly said I wanted to be looking at her legs, she claimed “Only teenagers and women up to age 25 look good walking or sitting around in the 2 piece bathing suits” that reveal so much.
I tried to tell her that this act of covering up was a sign of surrender to the younger women who weren’t afraid to “bare all” by showing the traditional bikini bottoms and how, for men, it will be outrageous if this “accessory skirt” fashion catches on among older women.
But it all didn’t matter. I knew I wasn’t attracted enough to her. I should have gone to the lake alone and done pickups there. In the summer, I should not bother trying to do much picking up of clothed women. By doing that I’d only have to try to get them to a second date on a beach in order to confirm that I am sexually attracted to them…something I should square away when I meet them in the first place.
The bikini-clad full-figured teenagers and women in their early 20s were showing me instantly what I wanted sexually.
QED: Try to pick up women while they are in bathing suits so you don’t have to waste time maneuvering a woman into seeing her in a bathing suit on a date.
It hurts women to be rejected after the 2nd bathing suit date. This has happened about 4 times this summer and they tend to realize what happened when I don’t show much interest in further dates. It really hurts them and it hurts me to have to be so shallow.
Which is why it is a man’s moral imperative, no matter how old he is, to go after what he really wants in the first place, preferably in a place where women are already in a state of undress. We cannot be politically correct about the age difference. We have to stay in top physical condition and keep game up to high levels in order to get what we really want.
A man must be shallow to save everyone from wasting their time and getting hurt.
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Near us on a blanket was a gorgeous 40 year old woman and her loser husband. I would have traded the 31 year old I was with for that great looking 40 year old. But she was clearly devoted to the drunk hubby.
But the majority of fuckable women there, including all of those who were actually available, were about 18-22.
Men don’t care about numbers. They care about looks. The numbers just turn out to be low in most cases.
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Biki, I’m not sure where you are going with Solzhenitsyn. And I am not sure what you mean about him being a ‘humanist,’ other than another way of saying that he was a nice person. If by humanist you mean he was anti-totalitarian, or anti-Communist, then sure.
He was, as you concede, a Russian nationalist. He was also a Christian Orthodox believer, with tendencies toward mysticism. Humanism, strictly understood, tends atheist and materialist. So in that case, he was not a humanist.
Indeed, he was critical of America. But more specifically, he was critical of American-driven consummerism and social atomization. However, he admired the American people.
He may or may not have been a WN. He might not have identified himself as such, but that’s simply because it was not a relevant idea in his life. He served in WW2, then was imprisoned in a Gulag, and then he lived much of his life secluded in rural Vermont before returning to Russia.
He did, however, strongly speak against, like I noted earlier, an abolishing of nations, implicitly, via migrations and comingling. His aesthetic and spiritually-couched argument was that different nations are humanity’s richness, and homogenizing these different nations into one undifferentiated mass was a crime against humanity. WNs today make similar arguments.
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@chic
I am not sure I understand what you mean by the first two sentences but you are definitely incorrect on the last.
There is not joy and no benefit to a man in being made to wait. It shows is hardly endearing. Desperation may make a man put up with it, but do not fool yourself that he likes it.
@Tupac Chopra
default user* is, in case you had not guessed, not me. It is someone trying to put words in my mouth. I am not sure who it might be but have my suspicions. Perhaps I should say *default strokes his chin and decides he might have a suspicion as to who it was*
Unlike certain sports stars there is never an asterisks after my name
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Gorbachev–
Canada has a tight immigration policy. I’ve researched it. Actually, it seems like it was engineered by Eugenics supporters. I have no idea about refugees, but their points system basically cuts the wheat from the chaff. By and large, they’re selecting much higher-quality immigrants than we are. It’s not specifically for “white” people, but obviously they’ve decided that a high-quality Chinese immigrant is as good as the same from Russia.
Yes, that’s what I want exactly. Canada’s immigration policy.
Except I want to cut way back on “refugees”. By and large I say tough to that, if they can’t make the points system cut.
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Gorbachev–
Are Arabs white? What about the Indo part of Indo-Europeans? Lots of Hindus look basically Italian, with tanned skin. Language and culture have the same roots, going back 10,000 years (gods, social order, cultural connections, language roots – from Ireland to central India).
The first time that came up in private conversation with Bhetti, I told her “but you’re white too”. She said that Arabs don’t think of themselves as white. I said well Caucasian anyway. Semitic Caucasians who have a Semitic language. Like the Jews, in origin. We agreed on that, my beautiful and tres smart Bhetti and I.
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Gorbachev, my response to a few of your points was buried in mod last night. Reposting:
Take your collectivist notions and stuff ‘em.
Are you a Randian? that would explain a lot.
What are white people?
People with a common ancestry and recognized by silky, straightishy hair, cream-to-beige skin color, eyes that range from dark brown to blue, thin noses and lips, and pink-to light brown nipples in women. White race (like other races) has fuzzy edges, but presence of grey does not negate the existence of black and white (heh)
Whte nationalism is for losers
Even the most successful members of our society are defacto WNs. Go by what they do, not what they say.
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Gorbachev–
Modern Jews arrived in the 17th-18th centuries. Almost all of them intermarried and disappeared, too.
I’ve seen you say stuff like this a number of times. I’m calling the later part of it crap. I want backup, links.
The intermarriage rate in the US has been high the last few decades, but so far most children of typically Jewish man, pretty wasp woman, identify as ethnically Jewish.
But the rate previously in Europe even post Napoleon wasn’t that high, and before Napoleon is was almost nill.
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Hey PA,
I’m sure i have misused the word humanism then, he was no atheist, i’m not sure what word i should use then, humanism for me means a concept that concern for human interests, values, dignity solidarity and so on, nothing else.
I agree with what you say, he wasn’t anti American, when he criticized US he did it because he was concerned with weakening of the moral fiber of the West and that it would ultimately hurt the country, Much of the thoughts that spins around here on this blog, but its not especially white nationalistic thing to think that way, methinks..
Here is a review of my favorite book from him.
http://chandinisantosh.blogspot.com/2010/03/alexander-solzhenitsyns-cancer-ward.html
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Doug,
I know a Jewish husband/ non Jewish wife couple. The kids had bar/bat mitzvahs. I said something to the daughter recently about being Jewish and her mom pipped in, “She’s not Jewish.” The daughter just laughed.
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Gorbachev–
The strongest Pro-Israeli lobby? White, Conservative Christians.
I’ve grown sick of your bullshite “authoritative” pronouncements. What crap that is. AIPAC is mostly funded by conservative Christians?????
You work in the media hunh? You must be unemployed. The degree to which you blather all over this board can have no other explanation.
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Something dangerous to all our rights:
An Israeli court found an Arab Israeli man guilty of rape for having told a Jewish woman he was Jewish. She had casual sex with him as a result but claimed rape when she learned he was Arab.
The “males” on the court might as well have been National Socialists for finding him guilty of rape = race pollution.
Learning about this was the first time I started wondering which is the right side in that conflict.
By the way, notwithstanding what I wrote above, I love my main girlfriend who is 29 and I’m not giving her up. She’s earned my emotional loyalty. All she needs to do is look the other way when I transgress.
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Laura,
Yes, the Jewish people I know of only consider you a Jewish person if your mother is Jewish. I never understood it as the Old Testament Bible, when showiing geneology always shows the lines going through the men/fathers.
Guns
There is no need for violence to even things out for White people. There Berlin wall came down without a war.
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chic noir–
white woman blame your problems with mass immigration on the British empire.
America closed the door quite tight against mass immigration from 1924 to 1965 (against strenuous Jewish opposition and lobbying, far more so than any other group).
That’s when assimilation was strongest and fastest.
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-“do you sport the regrettable irish lass chin”
So thats where my Simpson’s chin comes from, my irish DNA!
At least I learned one thing on this thread…….
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WW,
That would explain why the kids don’t really consider themselves Jewish, their mother isn’t.
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WW, you are correct. The mother must be Jewish in order for the children to be considered Jewish. In fact, not only must the mother be Jewish, she has to be considered so by the orthodoxy.
Lots of people claim to be Jewish, and may be so spiritually, but are not so legally.
So many people with Jewish fathers or who were unofficially Jewish who come here to Israel, must undergo conversion through the orthodoxy in order to be considered Jewish. This has been the case for many Russian and Ethiopian immigrants.
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Gorbachev–
Iranians in Japan: There are (relatively) tons of them. Not compared to OUR immigration levels – but compared to 0%, then it’s tons.
No there are NOT tons of Iranians in Japan. There’s not tons of anyone else but Japanese in Japan, and a bunch of Koreans for historical purposes. Who are treated as a lower caste, despite their great ethnic similarily.
Well there are tons of Americans of all kinds on Okinawa. Whom the Japanese civilians want to see gone, but the government knows it needs/wants.
I’m with the Japanese civilians. Let the Japanese pay more in defense spending as a result, and we pay less.
But anyway Gorbachev WW is right about your constant more or less lying about things, by vast exaggerating unless someone calls you on every little thing.
You aren’t a reliable truth teller at all. You’re tendentious as all hell. And play fast and loose with facts and knowledge up the yin yang. I’m growing quite sick of it.
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Nicole
WW, you are correct. The mother must be Jewish in order for the children to be considered Jewish. In fact, not only must the mother be Jewish, she has to be considered so by the orthodoxy.
Yeah that’s the way it is in Israel and among the orthodox everywhere. That’s the Talmudic or whatever tradition / law. But it’s not how it’s treated by liberal Jews in America. Who outnumber Jews in Israel and are sure as hell vastly more influential in the world. (And rely utterly on Jews and the Jewish lobby in America for their continued national existence.)
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White nationalism/anglo supremacy –
The most persuasive argument for these ideas is history and the current state of the world’s people. The question is, what are the criteria by which we measure success, supremacy, efficiency, of nations or of racial groups. It would be absurd to measure the success of a people by their “whiteness”; the extent to which they meet whatever racial criteria people have created to separate one people from another. Rather, the supremacy of white/anglo/western euro culture is more accurately measured, IMO, by its ideas and its results in technological innovation and respect for human rights.
I could write a book about all of the characteristics that make western civ culture so successful, but one of the most significant was their ability in 1200-1600 A.D. to rise above narrow and closed race groups and to assimilate knowledge amongst themselves and from arab and asian/indian sources. Probably the most significant functional advancement of christianity was the idea that religious identification can be based on beliefs and ideas, instead of tribal identification. White people took this idea and ran with it, while jews, arabs, hindus, chinese failed to look outside their narrow, xenophobic idea systems.
So this is why I don’t get white nationalism: what has made white culture so successful and “great” by any objective measure is their adaptability and transcension of historically normal tribe/race identification. That doesn’t mean that whites have historically interbred with other races, or that they should in the future. But nobody is forcing them to, and statistics show that given freedom of choice, racial groups choose to marry and mate within their own racial groups. But it seems nonsensical to me to say that “whiteness” itself is the measure of success that ought to be preserved. That’s like taking 5 dollars to McDonald’s, ordering your food, and then eating the money. It is the ideas/culture that must be preserved, and that culture is not a closed culture of religious dogma.
As far as other groups are concerned, if they are doing things successfully, than anglo-culture should welcome them and assimilate their ideas as we have historically. Asian and indian culture, would be good examples. And we can also welcome functional aspects of african, arab, jewish, catholic culture without having to erect a berlin wall to keep out their negative aspects. What doesn’t make any sense is how we make excuses for clearly inferior and damaging cultures, such as islamic culture, the dysfunctional elements of african american culture (which we go beyond tolerating and pedestalize), and inferior mexican culture. And we make excuses for minority cultural elements that are clearly at odds with our ideals (zionism, papal catholicism, race-based advocacy groups, including Jesse Jackson/Al Sharpton AND white nationalists.)
I’m all for the melting pot, but it only works in a culture where we are free to call a spade a spade. Any idea is welcome, but they all should be subject to open criticism and rejection where they are dysfunctional or wrong.
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Doug..you’re very articulate. WW likes.
Did you see above where Gorb showed he was a racist against his own people? He said that White people in Africa “had it coming” to them(regarding violence against them)…even though the White people he knew there were really nice. So White people have to be punished for what other White people do….AGAIN
July 26, 2010 at 1:51 am
But even crazier, not two minutes before that at 1:49 am Rum said:
“If I were Jewish I think I would carry an Uzi with me at all times and spray bullets into any body who even looked like he/she/it might be a “white nationalist,”
What the hell? And they say White Nationalists are evil!!!
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@Doug1
…liberal Jews in America. Who outnumber Jews in Israel and are sure as hell vastly more influential in the world. (And rely utterly on Jews and the Jewish lobby in America for their continued national existence.)
As Gorbachev already touched on, Evangelical Christians are a far more important lobby for Israel than Jews in the US. Iran could nuke Israel and the majority of Jews would still vote to reelect Obama. Some might get ticked and decide not to vote, but that would be about it. More realistically they would complain loudly and then vote for him again after he promised not to encourage anyone else to nuke the crater which was formerly Israel.
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WW,
Your moral indignation is annoying: “Did you see where Gorb was a racist ‘towards his own people'”…
Your posts seem to suggest that whiteness should be preserved for its own sake, even if dangerous, dysfunctional, evil… I for one am extremely happy that white people got together to kill off white nazis, not because they were white, but because their ideas and actions were wrong. I hate zionism for the same reasons I hate nazism, and you are being more than a hyprocrite for complaining of other racial advocacy groups “looking out for their own”…
If you just want to be another liberal, minority advocacy group, than start getting cozy with the NAACP, AIPAC, the Arab-American league, the ADL and every other minority first/totality second advocacy group. You’re all anti-americans as far as I’m concerned.
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Sidewinder, I think EVERY race has a right to survive. I do not personally feel the White/European race has to prove itself worthy of staying alive anymore that the Asian race should.
However, there are elements of society that vilefy the White race for their own reasons…in their quest for power, to produce “White Guilt” and exact payment, because they are envious and so on. A film like the one I posted is just to remind White people that even though our race, as a group has done things that are wrong (like any race) we also, as a group, have done many things right. It’s not for bragging purposes…but after being beat up for years for Black slavery (aided and abetted by Blacks themselves…but no one talks about THAT) and by the Holocaust industry, White people are pretty demoralized and need to be reminded that there is a lot of good in us, as a people.
I am “not” for a melting pot. I am for a salad bowl where different cultures and races can mix if they want but retain their distinct flavor. The world would be very uninteresting if we were all the same.
At the same time, it is wrong for a government to force people to live among people they don’t want to. That’s too controlling. People have a right to live where they want and where they can afford to. And if they own property privately they should be able to sell or rent it to however they please. Multiculturalism is not a good enough reason to take away people’s persaon property rights.
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*whoever they want to.
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WW, the frame of your posts reveal a paranoia that is misplaced. No one is advocating for the destruction of any group of people. No one is killing off white people, or forcing them to interbreed with other groups. No one is asking for a justification, from any racial group, for their continuing survival. That you would see the world in this way reveals an alarming level of indoctrination into the phrases and ideas of white nationalism. You should take a step back and seek an objective perspective.
The white guilt thing has run its course. It doesn’t resonate with the current generation because we never enslaved anybody, never kept out anyone from a restroom, bus or restaurant based on their race, and have observed the ill-effects of affirmative action and welfare-state policy. You still have Sharpton and Jackson pulling their racial shake-downs, but by and large, the world and this country are tending towards the ideals of western civilization. The biggest threats to this are religious and ethnic fundamentalism. Don’t be on the wrong side.
If white/anglo culture is so great (which I think we both agree that it is, historically speaking), I don’t know why you would take such an anti-assimilation position with your rhetoric. You should be pleased as hell that China, India, (hopefully parts of mideast) are choosing our ideas over their closed-society ideas. Again, if must be because you attach some special value to “whiteness” itself, which I don’t think can be justified as anything other than racism or ideas of racial supremacy.
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Sidewinder said:
Your moral indignation is annoying
WW says: Because I don’t think it’s right for perfectly innocent White people in South Africa to be discriminated against or killed because of what other White people did? Well I guess if sticking up for innocent people is annoying then I’ll just go on being annoying.
Sidewinder said: Your posts seem to suggest that whiteness should be preserved for its own sake, even if dangerous, dysfunctional, evil…
WW says: YOU ARE CALLING MY PEOPLE DANGEROUS, DYSFUNCTIONAL AND EVIL. You are a racist. I hope you are not White/European…then you will also be a traitor.
Sidewinder said: I for one am extremely happy that white people got together to kill off white nazis, not because they were white, but because their ideas and actions were wrong.
WW says: APPLES AND ORANGES. Anyone who kills others is worthy of death but by bringing this into the discussion it appears that you are using it as an argument for harming my people.
Sidewinder said: you are being more than a hypocrite for complaining of other racial advocacy groups “looking out for their own”…
WW says: You misunderstand. I have a problem with White people not being allowed to look out for OUR own. As this thread has so abundantly illustrated, when White people cry fowl, they are heavily criticized. We are just supposed to rollover and take any abuse that is handed to us.
Sidewinder said: If you just want to be another liberal, minority advocacy group
WW says: Oh no…I think I’d rather be called a slut than a liberal…! But no…that’s not something I’d be interested in. I would just like to see White people wake up and speak up about some of the issues I discussed on this thread.
Although since you bring up the word minority, this is a good place to add that White/Europeans are only 8% of the world’s population. Crazy huh?
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@Gorbachev
Dalrock – nice find.
Indeed, he does. His blog about this issue is called Semitism. Nicely distills it all.
I thought you might find him interesting. I haven’t read his blog in a good while, but I did see that he made that split.
Of course, he’s still a white nationalist, but you can’t have your cake, as they say.
I’m not sure exactly what he is. But he takes on all comers. I really enjoyed watching him take on the nazis, black supremacists, liberals, you name it, all at the same time. And he does so with incredible ease. I looked for quite a while for a fundamental flaw in one of his arguments, but I don’t recall ever catching one. I’m not particularly animated by that issue, but watching him eat everyone’s pretty little lies for snacks is entertaining to say the least. I’m not endorsing his views, but I could never find where he was specifically wrong. And I also don’t recall seeing where he argued for treating any specific group badly.
If you catch him making a significant mistake in facts or logic, please leave a post on my blog directing me to your comments on his site pointing this out. I would enjoy reading that. I suspect he would too.
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WW,
Let me respond in the order of your points:
1. Your moral indigation was not attached to the death of innocent people (race irrelevant), but rather, you criticised Gorb as a possible “race-traitor” for advocating the death of other white people. Big difference.
2. You are paranoid. I didn’t call any group anything, and used the conditional “even if…” That you would jump to such an emotional reaction is again demonstrative of racist indoctrination. You need to associate with different people. Your current social group is poisoning your mind.
3. Your side-stepping of the nazi question is very curious. Interesting that you aren’t willing to acknowledge any justification for white people to kill other white people.
4. No, you misunderstand. I know exactly the “harmless” position you are advocating for white nationalism. If geniune, it is no different than the other liberal minority groups that seek to look out for their own. Those groups are parasites and seek to better themselves at the expense of society as a whole.
5. You could be a liberal slut for all I know, but that doesn’t change the logical consequences of your stated position.
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Sidewinder said: Again, if must be because you attach some special value to “whiteness” itself, which I don’t think can be justified as anything other than racism or ideas of racial supremacy.
There is more to White/Europeans than skin color. We are a people. We have things in common. And perhaps our resident Pro-HBD eugenics expert Gorb can give you more info on the scientific discoveries that have been made about race.(even though he is a racist against his own people).
Why are people like you so hostile toward White skin anyway? Is it envy (perhaps you are not White). Is it self-hatred (if you are White). Some of us happen to think our skin color is just fine…why is it so important to you that everyone one be brown? That seems a little controlling to me. Where’s the diversity in that?
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@Doug1
No there are NOT tons of Iranians in Japan. There’s not tons of anyone else but Japanese in Japan, and a bunch of Koreans for historical purposes. Who are treated as a lower caste, despite their great ethnic similarily.
Well there are tons of Americans of all kinds on Okinawa. Whom the Japanese civilians want to see gone, but the government knows it needs/wants.
I mean actually immigrants. I got some stats for you. The Iranians I had seen there were in higher numbers in 2003-5 (15,000) and all lived in one area – so you’re right, it was a bit of an on-the-spot illusion. But 15,000 in one place was pretty impressive. I’ll bet you none of them have gone home.
But anyway Gorbachev WW is right about your constant more or less lying about things, by vast exaggerating unless someone calls you on every little thing.
You aren’t a reliable truth teller at all. You’re tendentious as all hell. And play fast and loose with facts and knowledge up the yin yang. I’m growing quite sick of it.
From now on, just for you, I’ll only include statistics.
From
http://www.migrationinformation.org/Feature/display.cfm?ID=487
As of the end of 2004, 1.97 million foreign nationals were registered in Japan, accounting for about 1.6 percent of the total population (127.69 million) and representing a 1.3 percent increase from 1.7 million in 2000. (See Table 1.)
Koreans composed the largest group (607,000), followed by Chinese (488,000), Brazilians (287,000), and Filipinos (199,000). Well over 90 percent of resident foreigners came from either Asia (74 percent) or South America (18 percent).
Approximately 41 percent of registered foreigners are permanent residents, including 466,000 “special permanent residents,” or former colonial migrants and their descendants.
Roughly one out of two foreign nationals in “nonpermanent resident” categories holds a status with no employment restrictions, such as “long-term resident” status. A long-term resident can be a Japanese relative, a child of Japanese descent, or the child of a foreign-national spouse from a previous marriage. Such individuals may stay in the country for a designated length of time (three years, one year, or less than one year as may be specified by the Minister of Justice).
This was interesting:
The overall trend toward the settlement of newcomer immigrants is also indicated by the rise in the annual number of permanent resident authorizations, from less than 10,000 in 1996 to nearly 20,000 in 1999 and to 48,000 in 2004. The “permanent resident” status, for which there is no limit to the length of stay in the country, differs from the long-term resident status noted above. Meanwhile, approximately 15,000 people, mainly Koreans and Chinese, have been naturalized every year.
The number of foreign nationals entering Japan, including new and returning visitors and residents, has grown substantially in recent years. The total number of entrants was 3.5 million in 1990 and increased to 5.27 million in 2000. By 2005, the number had grown to 7.45 million; it included over two million Koreans, 1.32 million Chinese from Taiwan, 780,000 Chinese from the People’s Republic of China, 250,000 Chinese from Hong Kong, and 221,000 Filipinos.
Among Koreans, many were students; the Chinese were generally trainees and students; and nearly 40 percent of the Filipinos arrived with “entertainer” visas.
IE, prostitutes. A lot of these people won’t go home.
The “entertainer” status is given to actors, singers, dancers, and professional athletes; it permits an individuals to work in Japan for three months, six months, or up to one year.
Japan continues to be relatively closed to asylum seekers. The number of applicants has also been very small. Between 1982 and 2004, there were 3,544 applications; only 330 of them were approved. Of the 3,544 applications, 408 (11.5 percent) were filed by Indochinese (Vietnamese, Laotian, and Cambodian) nationals, mostly before 1985. Citizens of Myanmar, Turkey, Iran, China, and Pakistan represent the largest groups of applicants in recent years.
The fact that they have no refugee system makes their immigration system much more locked down.
But as I said, these numbers are impressive if you thought it was 0% – which many people do.
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WW, you sound like a true feminist, and i think you are making white people look bad.
Why not just skip the white thing and a lot of things you say would make sense.
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WW, scarecrow much?
I am white as white can be, and do not advocate interbreeding at all. I don’t care if others do, but I’m most attracted to white women. I don’t hate people, I hate ideas. And racism is right up at the top of the list.
No one is killing off white people, or forcing them to interbreed. Take a chill pill. I don’t know why you care so much about white people anyway; you’re irish. (SA)
[editor: open borders is a form of ethnic cleansing.]
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@WW,
White SAfricans were not “my own people”. They didn’t treat me as one of their own – they treated me as an interesting foreigner. I acted like I was in a foreign country. They were no more “my” people than the black people in South Africa were “my” people.
And I’m happy for it: As wonderful as they were, they were not my people.
You just can’t see this point: I was against them as a governing political class.
Do you bow down to any white people you see?
That doesn’t make you a White Nationalist. It makes you a zombie.
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””””’Jerry
By the way, notwithstanding what I wrote above, I love my main girlfriend who is 29 and I’m not giving her up. She’s earned my emotional loyalty. All she needs to do is look the other way when I transgress.””””’
What act did she do that earned it?
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”””””’Sidewinder
WW, scarecrow much?
I am white as white can be, and do not advocate interbreeding at all. I don’t care if others do, but I’m most attracted to white women. I don’t hate people, I hate ideas. And racism is right up at the top of the list.
No one is killing off white people, or forcing them to interbreed. Take a chill pill. I don’t know why you care so much about white people anyway; you’re irish. (SA)
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No white people are being killed who would not have been killed if no hud housing was available.
I think people can’t grasp that in america today. Not a 100 years ago. Black people are moving into white areas where no black people were before and being paid to do it by the us government. Then their mortgage is also paid by the us government to live in that predominatly white area. Then what happens is it then ends up a predominatly black area and the cylcle will repeat in another area. I know it sounds hard to believe but it is reality.
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1. He was okay with the harm of INNOCENT White poeple. When a person like Gorb says that innocent people have “something coming to them” just because of the color of their skin, he has shown he is a horrible person and a racist. The fact that Gorb is White/European makes it even worse.
It would be like if I said all innocent Hutus in Africa must be punished because “their people” slaughtered hundreds of thousands of Tutsis. No. You let people live their lives…you judge each person based on what they have done, not what “their people” have done.
2. I understood exactly what you meant. No backpedaling now.
3. I never side-stepped the “Nazi question”. Those that committed crimes should be punished. What else do you want from me? Should I bleed for you or something? Would that make you feel better?
4. You are mistaken about my intents. But then, I don’t speak for all White Nationalists. If you notice any advocacy groups forming, you can take it up with them. I’m not part of anything like that. (YOU are actually starting to sound a bit paranoid, frankly. At the very least you are making a lot of assumptions)
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It was hard for me to believe to but I lived it then recently saw it happening in a formerly white area.
But yea it is dificult to come to terms that you do not really live in a free country although some people do he he he
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ahhhh bictopia called me a feminist!!! That’s hysterical.
I just care about White/Europeans. Someone’s got to do it.
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doug1,
you are a fag. talkin about your online girlfriend and shit. fucker you a grown ass man the fuckk you doin here spewin shit and pickin fight on teh net.
white woman,
the fuck man you callin gorb racist don’t pull that gay ass glenn beck shit and flip the script. keep your shit to yourself and stop suckin on the word white’s dick only insecure fuckers cling to group mentality. grow some fuckin consciousness and be an individual. damn nig worryin about skin color and shit. the fuck is this kindergarten? go suck your husband’s dick play with his balls make him a sammich and don’t talk/type much.
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Yes but dear you sure sound like one. You victimize your white self, just as feminists tend to victimize women, its typical that every malfunctioning group use the same methods.
[editor: sometimes a victim really is a victim. see: ricci case.]
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Guns,
I don’t know why crime goes through the roof when a lot of “minorities” move into a predominantly White/European neighborhood in the U.S.
That can’t be OUR fault can it? It would suck for us to have to pay for White crimes and minority crimes too.
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Gorbachev: were Boer families who watched their infants be set on fire by guffawing savages “asking for it”?
How were they asking for it anyway: by effectively growing food and feeding the continent?
WW: a little rhetorical tip — don’t respond to every coment. It ends up making you chase 1000 different, and mostly stupid, assertions thrown your way, and puts you on perpetual defensive. Only respond to intelligent points, and either ignore or reply with a one-liner to stupid points.
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Thanks PA. You’re right of course.
Also mustn’t respond to shaming language…like when people call my “group” malfunctioning.
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Whoah…just saw the Nelson Mandela post…hysterical! No shaming language there!
Serious…laugh out loud funny. Roissy is that you?
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WW and Doug1,
Gorb can defend himself pretty well, but since he’s not here right now I want to point out that you are obtusely misreading him on certain points.
First of all, WW, stop confusing “is” with “ought” and “will be” with “should be”. Gorb was referring to the predictable outcome of the Afrikaaners’ decades of oppression of blacks, namely a bloody race war, and was noting that they were extremely lucky that Mandela existed because they were able to avoid this predictable outcome which they SHOULD have expected. But note that the word “should” there refers to intellectual foresight, it does not mean that the blacks “should” have slaughtered the whites in any moral sense of the word “should”. To say that someone “had it coming” is a use of what in another language than English would be expressed with the future perfect subjunctive — it means that a certain outcome should have been expected to happen, not that it was a morally acceptable outcome. (And of course, the Afrikaaner oppressors, some of them, would indeed have deserved punishment for their treatment of the blacks, but in no way was Gorb suggesting that the South African whites would have deserved in any moral sense to have their children slaughtered, just that they should have expected that the policies they were pursuing would be likely to end up there).
Doug1, when Gorb said that white conservative Christians were the strongest pro-Israel lobby, he meant simply that they are pro-Israel and that it is politically important to them. He did not mean that they were direct cash contributors to AIPIAC, just that they were politically effective supporters of Israel. But they express this support in their own votes and contributions to politicians, and not necessarily by funnelling cash through a political action committee founded for American Jews to help Israel.
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@Doug1
Jewish intermarriage rate.
I must be a mendacious liar, right?
The only resistance to admitting that intermarriage went on between Jews and Anglos is from Jews (surprisingly, to me), and right-wing Christians.
Most Christians were happy to discuss this fact. There were actual missions to convert the Jews of London in Victorian England. Two books I’ve listed talk about how these ex-Jews were essentially written off by their Jewish communities, and treated as if they had never historically existed.
I detected more ambiguity and hostility in the Jewish sources below to the mention of intermarriage, especially historically.
What I can tell for for sure is that lots of people don’t like talking about this, especially Jews. The fact that intermarriage is relatively common in many Jewish communities (London, NYC) they find embarrassing. For True Believers, like all True Believers, it’s an uncomfortable fact.
Why the Jews are so much more embarrassed by intermarriage I don’t know – but Jewish commenters and historians don’t seem to like the subject much.
On the other hand, non-right-wing Christian writers seem to have no problems with it.
From
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interfaith_marriage_in_Judaism
intermarriage out of fear of Jewish assimilation.
Marriages between Jews and non-Jews were extremely rare until the Jewish Enlightenment, and emancipation, which swept through communities in the Jewish diaspora during the 19th and 20th centuries. As Jews began to assimilate into the broader societies in which they lived, intermarriages became more common. The 1990 National Jewish Population Survey reported an intermarriage rate of 52 percent among American Jews.[2]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_assimilation
Jewish assimilation began among Ashkenazi Jews on an extensive scale towards the end of the 18th century in Western Europe, especially Germany. Reasons cited for its initial success included hope for better opportunities accompanying assimilation into the non-Jewish European communities, especially among the upper classes.
Although some laws were changed and had allowed assimilation to flourish, the history of European antisemitism, which often had resulted from church and state actions, was not as easily forgotten. Both the Christian and Jewish communities were divided concerning answers to what was known as “the Jewish question.” The question, coming during the rise of nationalism in Europe, included the extent to which each nation could integrate its Jewish citizens, and if not integrated, how should they be treated and the question solved.
More to the point, and Jews have particular problems reporting on this; it appears to be a major sore point, as Jewish writers assiduously avoid the subject:
As an alternative to a more liberal practice of Judaism, assimilation also took the form of conversion to Christianity. None of the descendants of Moses Mendelssohn retained their Jewish religion. However, anti-Semites often imagined even converts from the Jewish religion and their descendants to still possess inherited Jewish traits that the anti-Semites considered “undesirable,” and inferior to “native” citizens. Assimilated Jews often did not achieve the acceptance that they were hoping assimilation would provide.
Much of this “assimilation” was intermarriage – specifically of Jewish men to non-Jewish women. Were the children all raised as Jews?
And why do Jews have such a hard time talking openly about this? You’d think it was a social plus.
And today:
In more recent times, rates of intermarriage have increased generally; for example, the US National Jewish Population Survey 2000-01 reports that, in the United States of America between 1996 and 2001, nearly half (47%) of marriages involving Jews were intermarriages with non-Jewish partners. The possibility that this might lead to the gradual dying out of Judaism, much like the historic fate of Arianism, is regarded by most Jewish leaders, regardless of denomination, as precipitating a crisis. For this reason, as early as the mid 19th century, some senior Jewish leaders denounced intermarriage as a danger to the continued existence of Judaism[50].
So between 1996 and 2001, half of the Jewish marriages that happened were with non-Jews. A new “holocaust” indeed: a rapidly assimilating population. In a generation, lots of people (assuming these couples are even having babies) will be part Jewish, and likely not Jewish at all.
One more generation and our good Aryan grandchildren will be marrying descendants of these Jews willy-nilly.
Wikipedia:
In the early 19th century, in some less modernised regions of the world, exogamy was extremely rare – less than a tenth of a percent (0.1%) of the Jews of Algeria, for example, practiced exogamy[43]. But in the early 20th century, even in most Germanic regions of central Europe[44] there were still only a mere 5% of Jews marrying non-Jews[45][46][47]. However, the picture was quite different in other locations; the figure was 18% for Berlin[48], and during the same period, nearly half of all Jews in Australia intermarried[49].
And today:
http://www.simpletoremember.com/articles/a/IntermarriageWhyNot/
This site mentions a rate over 70%. I can find no reference to that, though, and have never seen that before.
One book here I have here and that I found a reference for, but no summary online:
http://www.amazon.com/Jews-Georgian-England-1714-1830-Paperbacks/dp/047208609X
In The Jews of Georgian England, Todd M. Endelman challenges the Germanocentric orientation of the bulk of modern Jewish historiography and argues that the modernization of European Jewry encompassed far more than an intellectual revolution.
His study recounts the rise of the Anglo-Jewish elite–great commercial and financial magnates such as the Goldsmids, the Franks, Samson Gideon, and Joseph Salvador–who rapidly adopted the gentlemanly style of life of the landed class and adjusted their religious practices to harmonize with the standards of upper-class Englishmen. Similarly, the Jewish poor–peddlers, hawkers, and old-clothes men–took easily to many patterns of lower-class life, including crime, street violence, sexual promiscuity, and coarse entertainment.
An impressive marshaling of fact and analysis, The Jews of Georgian England serves to illuminate a significant aspect of the Jewish passage to modernity.
The book details how between 25-30% of these people over time – especially in the lower classes – intermingled and mixed with the Anglos and disappeared, and laments it as a loss for the Jewish community. The criminals and poor were largely given the “Transportation” treatment and disappeared into the bowels of the British Empire – likely marrying and intermingling in the countries they were “transported” to, as the book argues, because they didn’t add to the local Jewish population, by and large, wherever they went. They weren’t tracked or followed – just dumped on the colonies. The same was true for other sub-groups in England.
This book is also in my library:
http://www.amazon.com/Britain-Jewish-Communities-Modern-World/dp/0520227204/ref=pd_sim_b_4
Even though Jews were never completely absent from Britain after the expulsion of 1290, it was not until the mid- seventeenth century that a permanent community took root. Endelman devotes chapters to the resettlement; to the integration and acculturation that took place, more intensively than in other European states, during the eighteenth century;
This acculturation also involved lots of intermarriage, of extraneous males, relative to the Continent.
to the remarkable economic transformation of Anglo-Jewry between 1800 and 1870; to the tide of immigration from Eastern Europe between 1870 and 1914 and the emergence of unprecedented hostility to Jews; to the effects of World War I and the turbulent events up to and including the Holocaust; and to the contradictory currents propelling Jewish life in Britain from 1948 to the end of the twentieth century. We discover not only the many ways in which the Anglo-Jewish experience was unique but also what it had in common with those of other Western Jewish communities.
Intermarriage rate now at about 45%.
They’re calling it the End of British Jews.
Another book on my shelf, which is also quite good if you’re into Western history:
http://www.amazon.com/Assimilation-Community-Jews-Nineteenth-Century-Europe/dp/0521526019
The early and middle decades of the nineteenth century in Europe (1815-81) have long been regarded as the major period of assimilation in post-medieval Jewish history. Moreover the established historiography dealing with those years has tended to focus on the processes of accommodation and communal disintegration.
The essays that mention this do so in a circumspect way: the Jewish authors are less comfortable discussing intermarriage and “Communal Disintgration” than Christian authors were. But “communal disintegration” is essentially intermarriage.
However, the historical processes as analysed in this collection of essays emerge as multi- rather than uni-directional, far more variegated and complex than usually described hitherto. Contradictory trends were associated with different localities, levels of development and ideological allegiances.
Manchester and London apparently had higher “integration” rates than other cities. These Jewish communities were the largest, and had the greatest fuzzy-edges.
Traditional loyalties, new socio-ethnic structures, communal cohesion, romantic rediscoveries of the past and the political solidarity engendered by the struggle for emancipation across Europe, all served to counterbalance the homogenizing forces of modernity. Bringing together the work of fourteen leading historians, this book represents a major contribution to the revision, which has gained momentum in recent years, of the traditional historiography.
From Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_assimilation
Maye this is why Jews hate talking about assimilation and intermarriage:
http://www.thejc.com/judaism/15604/the-diaspora-doomed
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@WW
Deceitful lying wretch. Now I get Roissy’s attitude.
1. He was okay with the harm of INNOCENT White poeple. When a person like Gorb says that innocent people have “something coming to them” just because of the color of their skin, he has shown he is a horrible person and a racist. The fact that Gorb is White/European makes it even worse.
I said they had it coming to them as a governing class, in the context of a looming revolution. I never used the word “innocent”.
If anything, it makes me a non-racist: they were targeted as a governing class (hat happened to be white).
Read again, you simple-minded idiot.
It would be like if I said all innocent Hutus in Africa must be punished because “their people” slaughtered hundreds of thousands of Tutsis. No. You let people live their lives…you judge each person based on what they have done, not what “their people” have done.
Re-read what I wrote.
Seriously, what’s your processing problem?
2. I understood exactly what you meant. No backpedaling now.
No backpedalling. I’ll stand by a direct quote of what I said.
But like some kind of religious nut, you misquote what I say and impugn opinions to me I don’t have.
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Polymath, so now feeding people, and running effective health, sanitation, and public order services for them in apparent absence of their own ability to provide such, is “oppressing” them?
Sure, you may not find old SA’s formalized separation of peoples on HBD principles a pretty thing, but is there a middle ground between protecting a small anglo/dutch minority via separation as was done then, vs. today’s slide to barbarism?
By the way, I like your comments, but to be blunt, I find you a bit of Gorbachev’s buttboy. And it shouldn’t be so, since you seem like an intelligent and grounded man, while he’s a glib and spastic commenter who plays it loose with facts.
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@PA
Gorbachev: were Boer families who watched their infants be set on fire by guffawing savages “asking for it”?
I used strong words, but you’ll note: As a governing class.
Individual Nazis, or Chinese Communists during the Cultural Revolution, may not have been bad people. May even have been innocent of even bad thoughts: But as a governing class, the white South Africans themselves believed they had it coming. Most Anglo South Africans sided against the Boers; the Boers were fucking terrified of black rule, because they felt the blacks were justified in serious revenge. They said as much, too.
Obviously, after 80 years of racist rule, as a governing class lording it over the population and accruing virtually all benefits to themselves, the Afrikaner government had no moral authority left.
And there were prominent Afrikaners who sided with the ANC; Helen Thomas, the English SAfrican, was famous, but there were lots besides her, as well. They weren’t only innocent, they were more or less heroes.
WW:
I never said white SAfricans should have been killed. I just said: They and others knew they had it coming, as a governing class. In most revolutions, the governing class gets eaten by the revolutionaries.
South Africa was a typical situation. The fact that the governing class was WHITE was irrelevant to that analysis. That it *was* white was interesting historically.
If you think I advocated for the killing of white people, you’re a disingenuous shit.
I’m just pointing out that your video has *NO* cultural or social relevance in the US, and, like most of your points, like most WN arguments, you miss critical details and as a result your arguments are trash.
They sound more like wonky conspiracy theories.
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i would pay money to see what happens to SA if every single white disappears
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G, Many prominent Jews have promoted inter-racial breeding and now it’s biting them (as a race) in the butt.
They are lamenting the watering down or loss of their people just as White Nationalists lament at our losses.
The only difference is Jews don’t get beat up over wanting to preserve themselves while White people do.
I think every race has a right to exist and preserve itself. That’s what diversity is all about. If we all end up the same color and with the same characteristics, where is the diversity in that?
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I don’t agree with Gorb on a lot of things, but I hate it when the discussion gets ruined by obtuseness and unwillingness to try and see the other person’s actual point.
You didn’t read what I wrote carefully, You seem to think I would not agree with your answer to the question “is there a middle ground between protecting a small anglo/dutch minority via separation as was done then, vs. today’s slide to barbarism?”. Actually, that’s completely irrelevant to what I was saying.
Most of my comment was about IS rather than OUGHT, about the likely consequences of the type of treatment the Afrikaaners were imposing on the blacks. And it is ridiculous to draw from my remarks the conclusion that EVERYTHING the Afrikaaners did, including feeding people and building infrastructure etc., was “oppression”. Focus on what I actually said, darn it. (I distinguish between the Afrikaaners and South African whites in general because the Afrikaaners were politically dominant and the English-descended whites would have treated the blacks better.)
The one place where I made a moral judgement was where I said that “the Afrikaaner oppressors, some of them, would indeed have deserved punishment for their treatment of the blacks”. Note the caveat “some of them”. That makes it clear that I believe that the apartheid system itself was not so inherently evil that any white man participating in it was morally guilty; however, I don’t think you should deny that there was a great deal of evil perpetrated upon blacks by whites in South Africa through the vehicle of the apartheid system.
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My previous comment was addressed to PA , forgot to flag him.
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@Polymath
Poly has it.
I never said it was morally justified, one way or the other: They white ruling class had it coming, in a historical sense. They got away with it: No bloody justice was delivered to them, largely due to Nelson Mandela and his ethical views and the fact that he was a fucking awesome statesman. In the classical view of the term.
I thought I was pretty clear. And as far as facts go, I may not always give sources, but if you want them, you shall have them.
On the other hand, WW, as a WN, is showing herself up as unable to think around her own blinders.
I also never made claims about black South Africans being able to run their own country as effectively as whites. Either way. I said nothing about that. I have nothing to say about it: It’s beside the point.
Are you even listening?
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Gorb, you didn’t say “as a governing class, they had it coming” originally. You are backpedaling now because you have been outed as a racist against your own people.
Nice shaming language too, calling the love I have for my own people a conspiracy theory.
Regarding anyone’s arguments being trash-with all the lying and backpedaling you’ve done on this thread..you are highly suspect.
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@dalrock
@Doug1
…liberal Jews in America. Who outnumber Jews in Israel and are sure as hell vastly more influential in the world. (And rely utterly on Jews and the Jewish lobby in America for their continued national existence.)
As Gorbachev already touched on, Evangelical Christians are a far more important lobby for Israel than Jews in the US. Iran could nuke Israel and the majority of Jews would still vote to reelect Obama. Some might get ticked and decide not to vote, but that would be about it. More realistically they would complain loudly and then vote for him again after he promised not to encourage anyone else to nuke the crater which was formerly Israel.
Doug1 missed my point again.
The conservative Christians are unthinking knee-jerk supporters of Israel the way “Jews” in the diaspora can never be: there’s so much criticism of Israel among the “Jews”, and the relationship between the diaspora (American) Jews and Israel is so complicated and laced with ethnic / social differences of opinion, and American Jews (like the equivalent SWPLs) are so Left – that conservative Christians are the most reliable, vocal and observant Israel supporters *anywhere*.
Not in terms of money – but politics? Israel can do no wrong in the eyes of the Conservative Christians. In fact, in their view, apparently, Israel doesn’t go far enough.
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@White Woman
G, Many prominent Jews have promoted inter-racial breeding and now it’s biting them (as a race) in the butt.
They are lamenting the watering down or loss of their people just as White Nationalists lament at our losses.
The only difference is Jews don’t get beat up over wanting to preserve themselves while White people do.
I think every race has a right to exist and preserve itself. That’s what diversity is all about. If we all end up the same color and with the same characteristics, where is the diversity in that?
Jews are not a race. They know that. They don’t think they are (except the ultra-religious).
You play fast and loose with terms. You sound like you’re spouting recycled garbage.
My point is: In the case of the Chinese, the Race is not the group (Vietnamese need not apply). In the case of Zulus, their race is not their ethnicity. In the case of Whites, the race is not the group.
You’ve created an ethnicity of race and you can’t see beyond it. You did this because you’re American, and your actual European ethnicity is long gone, and you just see blacks and others who look and act differently. In an American context, your ethnicity appears to be racial.
Your ethnicity is not racial. That’s a historical accident in an American context.
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@WW
Gorb, you didn’t say “as a governing class, they had it coming” originally. You are backpedaling now because you have been outed as a racist against your own people.
???
This is why I clarified, to make sure you understood. Apparently, you can’t read.
It’s like talking to some Jehovah’s Witness nutball. You say something and they just look at you blankly, and say, “But you said, …”
Go back and re-read my clarification. Then call me an anti-white racist.
Woman, if I’m an anti-white racist, a conservative white guy who follows eugenics and thinks Obama is a tool, the WN movement in this country is absolutely finished. You appear to be another zombie-like WN drone. Even moreso than the others I’ve met (and I’ve met lots).
Nice shaming language too, calling the love I have for my own people a conspiracy theory.
You cobble together facts like someone building a conspiracy theory – anything that fits gets stapled onto the edifice of lies (“Oh yes! That sounds like it fits!”), and anything that doesn’t is ignored.
Regarding anyone’s arguments being trash-with all the lying and backpedaling you’ve done on this thread..you are highly suspect.
I backpedaled not at all. I clarified for the obtuse in the room. And you can quote me as much as you want.
Obviously, you actually have no point – like some religious nut standing in the door not hearing what anyone says.
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@PA
Polymath, so now feeding people, and running effective health, sanitation, and public order services for them in apparent absence of their own ability to provide such, is “oppressing” them?
No, PA, this is oppression:
Rounding them up, harassing them, labeling them, herding them like animals into pens, arresting them often without cause and “disappearing” people, staging thousands of “suicides” for the benefit of extra-judicial executions, and creating a climate of fear, terror and persecution. Deploying the army for even minor gatherings of political defiance is oppression; midnight raids on ramshackle houses is oppression; denial of basic services is oppression; sub-standard education with no options or means for advancement is oppression. Slave wages and deliberately depressing the black south african economy is oppressive.
I’m not making any other argument, but even the whites of the time had no illusions: They were engaging in naked oppression. They just thought that *this* oppression was justified (on the right) or unavoidable (on the relatively powerless left).
Most knew it was going to be over. Very over. Very soon.
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Polymath–
I know perfectly well what the basic facts are in this area and they way you’re characterizing them is correct. But that wasn’t what Gorbachev meant. He was tendentiously trying to create a false impression.
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@ Sidewinder,
You had it right.
I’ll add:
The strength of Anglo culture has always been its adaptability. It denied simplistic racial categories and built an empire of ideas as well as of arms.
White Nationalists are actually a nagging weak point in this culture: they seem to be patriots, but, if you listen to them (and why do their spokespeople all sound like they’re inbred nasal-voiced yokels in their videos? Or guys in basements? Seriously– what’s up with that?), their shit is the same shit that keeps black people down.
The last thing we need to do is start acting like victims. If anything, we need to start acting more alpha – from a position of strength, not weakness.
And White Nationalism is all about weakness. It’s fearful and crippling. It’s cringing and weak and ultimately pathetic.
The White Nationalists have their fundamental core beliefs, none of which they can question, and WW has shown this perfectly.
They’re exactly in the opposite spirit that modern HBD thought engages: they seem similar, but the thought process is totally different.
They don’t analyze. They know Jews are evil and have plans; they just know it. Any fact they’ll fit to their model, those that don’t they’ll ignore. It’s like creationists sitting around a table, cherry-picking the weird fossils.
Same thought process.
It’s woolly and would be amusing if it weren’t so dangerous.
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Many people use the words “race” and “ethnicity” interchangably. I don’t see it as a huge deal but if it will help you not get distracted I will be more careful of how I use these words in the future.
You say I have no point. Here is my main point for the day. For some reason White countries and the continent of Europe are being inundated with millions of non-Whites and some of use feel that it is too much too fast and some of us feel that we are being pushed to mix and breed ourselves out of existences as a group.
It is true that no-no one is forcing us to inter-breed, but since there is a constant push (for instance…constant showcasing on TV and in films of mixed race couples….a higher percentage than in real life) I think it is important to wake White people up to this and other brainwashing.
I for one don’t want to be brainwashed…do you?
And if you think TV isn’t highly influential then ask yourself why corporations pay millions for advertising on television.
So my point: Genocide of White/European people by assimilation is wrong. Don’t be a part of it. Tell other White/European people.
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@Doug1
Polymath–
Doug1, when Gorb said that white conservative Christians were the strongest pro-Israel lobby, he meant simply that they are pro-Israel and that it is politically important to them. He did not mean that they were direct cash contributors to AIPIAC, just that they were politically effective supporters of Israel. But they express this support in their own votes and contributions to politicians, and not necessarily by funnelling cash through a political action committee founded for American Jews to help Israel.
I know perfectly well what the basic facts are in this area and they way you’re characterizing them is correct. But that wasn’t what Gorbachev meant. He was tendentiously trying to create a false impression.
This is why it’s so pointless to engage the white right and their I’m A Victim obsession. It’s exactly like talking to feminists and black nationalists. They impugn everything you say with extra meaning that was never intended. Poly can see it, and you can’t.
I wasn’t trying to create any false impressions:
The Christian right is ideologically a much firmer, more solid and obviously more reliable ideological ally than “Jews” as a group in America. If anything, Jewish political opinions in America are a massive headache for Israel. Israelis regularly tell American Jews to fuck off with their politics.
If you know this, then what was my point about?
This was my point: There is no Jewish monolith. There isn’t even a Jewish monument. There’s barely anything. Get 3 Jews in a room, and you get 4 opinions, and they can never reach any conclusion.
But the Christian Right was able to size up Israel and say: Hell yeah, we can get behind that. Greater Israel? Even better. Palestinians? You mean Jordanians? Get the hell out.
The Christian right just adores Israel. I’ve never read panegyrics to Israel like I’ve read from the Christian right.
No mainstream Jew loves Israel more than the Christian Right.
But, … I guess the Christian Right is a Jewish conspiracy?
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Sidewinder–
No one is killing off white people, or forcing them to interbreed. Take a chill pill. I don’t know why you care so much about white people anyway; you’re irish. (SA)
You need to take an un chill pill.
The census bureau predicts that on current trends a majority of this country will be non white by 2042. Hispanic heavily Amerindian kids will probably be a majority of school kids by then. they’ve historically done about as poorly and in California do less well than blacks in school.
There are too many of them coming too fast. As well we shouldn’t allow in substantial numbers of any group that “deserve” and get affirmative action here, or benefit from EEOC “disparate impact” rules. Now begin vigorously ramped up again by Obama’s EEOC. Quelle surprise.
There’s nothing inevitable about this, and the media likes to pretend. Yes we could — and should — deport a whole hell of a lot of the 12.5% Hispanic population we’ve currently got. “Anchor babies” and all.
No I’m not for deporting most of our Eurasian immigrants. From E. Asia and Indian. The legal ones we’ve taken in have generally done well here in the US and clearly net contribute. Doesn’t mean I want a flood either.
They’re not ghetto drains on us 3 and 4 generations on, as the heavily Indio Hispanics we’re getting now are.
Now when mostly white, touch of indio, beautiful Columbian girlies want to come here … hells yessssss.
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“Gorb was referring to the predictable outcome of the Afrikaaners’ decades of oppression of blacks, namely a bloody race war, and was noting that they were extremely lucky that Mandela existed because they were able to avoid this predictable outcome which they SHOULD have expected. ”
Nonsense. Blacks in SA had the highest living standards in black Africa and the nation had a problem with illegal black immigrants trying to get into SA for a better life. All whites in SA wanted was to be separate and they would have easily won any race war in the unlikely event one would have occurred.
As whites are murdered, leave or just die off, SA is starting to revert to a typical black-run country, which is a shame for all people in that nation.
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I’ll say it again. I don’t hate any other races and caring for your own people is not hating and it’s not dangerous.
Again, the Berlin wall came down without a war. I just would like to see White people recognize the brainwashing for what it is.
Again: Genocide of White/European people by assimilation is wrong. Don’t be a part of it. Tell other White/European people.
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@White Woman
Many people use the words “race” and “ethnicity” interchangably. I don’t see it as a huge deal but if it will help you not get distracted I will be more careful of how I use these words in the future.
It’s a huge deal. That’s half the point: Race and ethnicity don’t refer to the same thing at all, and hence the confusion and the lies of the White Nationalists. If you don’t admit this, then you like it because it deliberately confuses the issue in a way that advantages you (common far right/far left / religious tactic) or you’re just not bright enough to see it.
Race /= Ethnicity. It often correlates. It often does not.
Italians are not your co-ethnics. Black Americans are moreso.
White Italians are members of your race. Black Americans not.
This point matters.
And this is your whole point, mixed in with all of your straw-men and delusions and misrepresented facts:
You say I have no point. Here is my main point for the day. For some reason White countries and the continent of Europe are being inundated with millions of non-Whites and some of use feel that it is too much too fast and some of us feel that we are being pushed to mix and breed ourselves out of existences as a group.
It is true that no-no one is forcing us to inter-breed, but since there is a constant push (for instance…constant showcasing on TV and in films of mixed race couples….a higher percentage than in real life) I think it is important to wake White people up to this and other brainwashing.
It’s white people doing the brainwashing (not largely Jews) and white people with the fingers on the floodgate controls.
There’s no conspiracy to do this: Don’t invent one. There’s no overarching Mud People villain in a lab somewhere trying to exterminate white people.
I for one don’t want to be brainwashed…do you?
Oh, I think you’ve managed that all on your own.
And if you think TV isn’t highly influential then ask yourself why corporations pay millions for advertising on television.
So my point: Genocide of White/European people by assimilation is wrong. Don’t be a part of it. Tell other White/European people.
???
Most white people breed with white people.
Your fears are exaggerated out of all proportion, you anthropomorphize a historically contingent process that had no particular direction or director, and you forget your actual co-ethnics in the process.
You live in the US. In the reality of America. Live in the US.
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The strength of Anglo culture has always been its adaptability.
Indeed they adapted well to the loss of India. Pakistan is a paragon of Anglo culture today.
It denied simplistic racial categories and built an empire of ideas as well as of arms
You DO realize that English colonists drew sharp lines between themselves — native Englishmen — and their colonial subjects?
Natives, with very few exceptions and some useful chieftain/puppets, did not hold responsible positions in their colonies. In North America, aboriginals were driven off or exterminated. Antimiscengenation laws were applied to Africans, free or slave.
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pa, damn son stop suckin on white woman’s internetz clit. damn nobody give a shit if you got an internetz crush on white woman. it ain’t healthy son just shake your hand with your master and give it a rest son. birds and shit will greet you if you go outside son.
and if you want white woman so bad i’ll sacrifice a hundred bulls for you son so the sky can fedex real white woman and you can suck on her pale saggin titties like a macock son.
white woman, damn woman go suck your husband off he got balls like watermelon. if you ain’t gon do that you know you gon start have nightmares bout blackmon fillin up ya vageegee and we know how much you don’t want any o thaht black anaconda.
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Gorbachev–
As of the end of 2004, 1.97 million foreign nationals were registered in Japan, accounting for about 1.6 percent of the total population (127.69 million) and representing a 1.3 percent increase from 1.7 million in 2000. (See Table 1.)
Koreans composed the largest group (607,000), followed by Chinese (488,000), Brazilians (287,000), and Filipinos (199,000). Well over 90 percent of resident foreigners came from either Asia (74 percent) or South America (18 percent).
Approximately 41 percent of registered foreigners are permanent residents, including 466,000 “special permanent residents,” or former colonial migrants and their descendants.
1.6% is a very small percentage of the total population. Then we learn that only 41% of that are actually planning to / allowed to stay. Your source is obviously trying to boost the impression of open to immigration, when that’s very far from true.
As well, how many of this 0.7 (rounding up) percentage of Japan’s that are permanent residents are in fact ethnically Japanese, returning to their ancestral homeland? There’s a sizeable Japanese community in Brazil for example, that Thomas Sowell has written of. Same w/the Philippines I believe. I wonder if many / most of the Chinese “nationals” aren’t ethnically Japanese as well, returned after the war.
At any rate, yes you remain convicted of essentially lying about the Japanese immigration situation and policy, you were so hyperbolic ally exaggerating in a thorough tendentious fashion.
Much of what you write here is hyperbolic, EXTREMELY wordy exaggeration in fact, rather than trying to get at the truth.
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Gorb said:
But, … I guess the Christian Right is a Jewish conspiracy?
The Christian right has had “The Jews are the chosen people” drilled into them from birth.
Between that and American society as a whole’s fear of any kind of critique of Jewish people they blindly support anything Israel does.
It is the worst kind of brainwashing.
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Gorbachev–
I never said it was morally justified, one way or the other: They white ruling class had it coming, in a historical sense. They got away with it: No bloody justice was delivered to them, largely due to Nelson Mandela and his ethical views and the fact that he was a fucking awesome statesman. In the classical view of the term.
Mandela didn’t take the positions he did just for ethical reasons. For one thing he learned it was the only way to get the Africaners to agree to what would inevitably be black rule, without a bloody war it’s by no means sure the blacks would win. They wouldn’t without US intervention probably anyway.
As well he knew that if all the whites fled or were killed off, black South Africans couldn’t possibly run the economy at all well for a good long while at least, and that the place would turn into another Haiti. Or as it happened since, Zimbabwe.
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Gorbachev–
I’ve got a comment in mod to you about your dissembling on Japan.
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Doug1 and Roissy,
Illegal immigration is a huge problem. Nothing I said is contrary to that. Changes in racial demographics are a lot different than the idea that the “white race will disappear”. Why do reductionists struggle so much with differences of degree?
The genetics of “the white race” are not in jeopardy of being eradicated. Settle down. One starts to lose credibility when jumping to the most absurd, extreme and absolute conclusions in support of their position. But this is often repeated ad nauseum on here, whether its paranoia over female-initiated divorce epidemics, cuckoldry paranoia, or race demographics.
Illegal immigration is a problem of the political will of THIS country; not a bunch of darker skinned people looking to invade and kill and/or impregnate white people.
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Many older people have told me that this country used to be a nicer place to live than it is now. These people weren’t all white either. People like to feel like part of a community and I think when you have too many people of different races and cultures you are going to lack social cohesion. I don’t know anyone that I would consider racist, but most people tend to prefer people who are like them. Often people of the same race and background as me are very similar to me.
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Gorb,
I don’t think anglo culture denied racial categories in the past as much as you think.
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As a Canadian, I do admire Gorb’s impassioned plea for liberty and individual freedom and human rights. In fact, it almost sounds as if you are a Canadian. We do have the multicultural society you speak of here, but for some odd reason when immigrants arrive here they slowly, over time, begin to act white. It’s an odd thing to see a black Canadian wearing a Toronto Maple Leafs jersey and drinking a Molson’s, watching the hockey game. They don’t speak ebonics. Even when african americans come over to Windsor from Detroit they’re blown away that the brothers ‘act white’. All races, asian, black, whatever -they all act like hosers, wearing toques and playing hockey. Maybe Canada is exceptional in this regard.
Having said this, I also feel WW, PA and others have reason to be wary. I did live in the USA for fifteen years and when PA says in a crisis, like when the levee broke in New Orleans, white people need to be armed, he is being accurate. I don’t think it wise immigration policy to simply open the floodgates to millions upon millions of Mexicans. Let’s face it: Mexico has de facto reclaimed the territory it lost in the US-Mexican war of 1848. Southern California all the way to the Florida panhandle. Without some kind of coherent immigration policy your country runs the risk of cannibalizing itself.
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Gorbachev–
Jews are not a race. They know that. They don’t think they are (except the ultra-religious).
What’s true is they have been very interested in others not thinking of them as a race since the Holocaust, for understandable reasons. Especially soon after it. Now that’s become more relaxed in the US. They thought of themselves as both a race and a religion bound up together before that. Really they still do, among themselves, for the most part. An ethnicity.
But yes they are a sub race, or sub sub race, yes. For a couple of thousands of years they very very largely only bred with each other, or anyway didn’t allow much ingression of genes. That’s a sub race or some sort, yes. As well the Jewish religion is very ethnocentric. The one chosen people, the tribe. Not evangelizing or subsuming of other ethnicities. I actually think the impulse to be able to morally evangelize others and make them part of your people is a good bit of the reason for the heavy Jewish attraction to Marxism and Communism.
There is an exception to this strict intrabreeding, until to some extent Germany and yes the UK before WWII, and to a large extent in the US post WWII. When Jews first diffused into Europe beyond Rome and Spain post the collapse of the western Roman empire, lots of Jews seem to have taken gentile Euro wives. (Judaism was polygamous in Europe in those early days, so that probably contributed.) Jews specialized in long distance trade with Byzantium and especially the Arabs in those early days, so had wealth to attract women and leave lots of surviving kids. That’s what current DNA analysis has been showing. There’s a good bit of Euro female markers in Askenazi Jews, but not male ones.
There’s evidence that similar things happened in Africa I believe. At the very beginning that is. After that, just born jewish with born jewish mating.
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@Laura
Older people always say that. They like harking on about the war too. Till they remember the raids and the rickets. And smaller things like none of them can swim because all the pools were drained and the sea fenced off.
I wouldn’t put too much credence to it 100% being linked to immigration. No doubt some of these older people who have said that to you wouldn’t think much of Silicon Valley even if it were a 100% white.
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Why were the pools drained and the sea fenced off? Was it concerns about polio?
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@Tim
Ah, a Canadian. How nice.
As a Canadian, I do admire Gorb’s impassioned plea for liberty and individual freedom and human rights.
I’m all about individual freedom and rights.
I detest group politics. They’re poison. I understand I likely would detest Canadian politics as a result.
In fact, it almost sounds as if you are a Canadian.
I’m honored. Nice country. Shitty winters.
We do have the multicultural society you speak of here, but for some odd reason when immigrants arrive here they slowly, over time, begin to act white. It’s an odd thing to see a black Canadian wearing a Toronto Maple Leafs jersey and drinking a Molson’s, watching the hockey game. They don’t speak ebonics. Even when african americans come over to Windsor from Detroit they’re blown away that the brothers ‘act white’. All races, asian, black, whatever -they all act like hosers, wearing toques and playing hockey. Maybe Canada is exceptional in this regard.
This is what i want to see in the US: the minorities becoming Anglo and White. I just don’t know how the hell you people do it. We seem to be incapable of it down here.
Having said this, I also feel WW, PA and others have reason to be wary.
Wary, maybe; but paranoid?
I did live in the USA for fifteen years and when PA says in a crisis, like when the levee broke in New Orleans, white people need to be armed, he is being accurate. I don’t think it wise immigration policy to simply open the floodgates to millions upon millions of Mexicans. Let’s face it: Mexico has de facto reclaimed the territory it lost in the US-Mexican war of 1848. Southern California all the way to the Florida panhandle. Without some kind of coherent immigration policy your country runs the risk of cannibalizing itself.
I’ve always maintained this. The difference is that some people would turn off the tap, on racial grounds.
I never advocated for mass immigration. I like a targeted, high-class immigration policy that cherry-picks the best from around the world (who gives a shit about brain drain elsewhere: seriously).
Our country currently lacks any immigration policy of any kind. Getting your immigration policy would be a huge, massive step forward.
But I think these conspiracy-nuts don’t help the situation. In fact, they may make it worse. Instead of engaging the process, the loonies retreat into a world of their own hallucinations.
Incidentally, that doesn’t help the “white” cause, either.
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Whiteness? What is this whiteness? What is this white culture?
I’m part Italian, I like my skin tone. Nobody’s forcing anyone to breed with me. I’m proud of my ancestors, I don’t need to be proud of a skin colour.
That video is crazy. I note the video had pictures from Greece, do you consider Greek people white?Do you consider ancient Roman people white? Alas, sadly no pictures of buildings from my beloved Ancient Egypt.
I did a quick google on white pride, jewish pride etc and much more results on white pride.
Whiteness? Ah, WW is Irish, I’ll get my sunglasses out.
(sd – no offence to your race lovely, you know I love most of you)
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Gorbachev–
Italians are not your co-ethnics. Black Americans are moreso.
That’s ridiculous.
It’s also emblematic of how you think. Tons of top down from categories or principles in your head.
Lots of Italians intermarry with other white Americans. As of the last census 0.5% of married white women were married to black men. (Though I’m sure with the very strong media push for that over the last decade especially, the number will have risen by this census.)
Culture isn’t the only thing that matters. Race does too.
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That’s okay Lily, I know I’m a blanco.
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let’s all work together to achieve this outcome
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sweet jesus thats a lot of jew talk. It doesn’t matter whether Jews think of themselves as a race or not, only whether everyone else does. We’re always afraid of another inquisition or holocaust. Can you really blame us? We should all just fuck each other till we are all the same color!
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Tim–
We do have the multicultural society you speak of here, but for some odd reason when immigrants arrive here they slowly, over time, begin to act white. It’s an odd thing to see a black Canadian wearing a Toronto Maple Leafs jersey and drinking a Molson’s, watching the hockey game. They don’t speak ebonics.
That’s the way it was here too until the aftermath of the sixties beginning mostly in the 70s. When the left took or made it loudly known they’d taken firm control of the elite universities and media, entertainment and direct opinion media. It was even more true among blacks in the US by far then, than it is now.
You haven’t let in a swamping amounts of immigrants of any one race or ethnicity, except possible Chinese in Vancouver. And they’re a well behaved minority. You’ve also only allowed in the smart for the most part with your points system.
While we’re letting in swamping numbers (in some states, like Arizona and California) numbers of heavily Indio Mexicans and Central Americans. Texas handles it a lot better because they’re a lot more conservative than California, and more demanding of a good bit of assimilation. They may also draw from different parts of Mexico more, that are less problematic.
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and for fuck sake, no more pictures of helen thomas, what a beast.
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Lily–
Lily–
Whiteness? What is this whiteness? What is this white culture?
I want to be inclusive and welcoming too Lily.
But I don’t want population swamping, as is going on here. And in France as well.
I certainly don’t want it with groups that we then have to turn around and give affirmative action to their kids. What kind of insanity is that?
Leftist PC insanity.
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@Doug
Sure, I wouldn’t want a load of Algerians in my community, or Romanians. Though I wouldn’t want a load of Italians or French either.
I completely understand your perspective about not wanting the ‘native’ culture to be taken over by immigration. But all this talk of ‘whiteness’ is a bit OTT IMHO.
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@Doug1
I want to be inclusive and welcoming too Lily.
But I don’t want population swamping, as is going on here. And in France as well.
I certainly don’t want it with groups that we then have to turn around and give affirmative action to their kids. What kind of insanity is that?
Leftist PC insanity.
Doug,
I agree with this entirely. Absolutely. I believe I’ve never said anything else.
I just called bullshit on WW’s racial paranoia and delusions. Conspiracy theories.
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as one of the resident jewy jewy jew jews i have to report that under no circumstances do jews consider themselves a separate RACE. i grew up in an all jewish milieu and went to jew school — i know jews
my maternal gp’s are from poland–they were but one ethnic minority with culture specific religion, customs and clothing in poland. there were also gypsies and others, each with a distinctive language and culture as well. thats what jews thought of themselves as.
my paternal gps were of german jewish descent via hungary
all of us have very pale skin and light eyes on both sides, all green and blue, dark thick hair on hungarian/german side, lighter thinner hair on polish—-if there was admixture it was from cossack rape
growing up jewish in a northeastern city was exactly like growing up irish catholic–do they not have distinctive ways, lingo, food, religion, music, dress language, names appearance, career choices, etc?
yes
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Lily–
But all this talk of ‘whiteness’ is a bit OTT IMHO.
I agree.
In some ways I regret sticking up for WW when xsplat went after her yesterday evening, NY time.
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@Doug
“In some ways I regret sticking up for WW when xsplat went after her yesterday evening, NY time”
Ah, but it was an example of true alphahood 😉
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It’s always the dumbest white people who believe that Jews are more intelligent. What proof is there? Germans seem to be more intelligent than Jews. No surprise the smart Germans started that lie.
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@sd
Don’t know if you’ve read much Nancy Mitford, I would assume you have.
All this talk of jewry reminded me of a bit in Don’t Tell Alfred where Grace is rambling onto Fanny about how much better the French are (much to the latter’s chagrin, who obviously thinks in English/French terms rather than whiteness)and one of the examples she gives is whilst their ancestors version of marrying out was flighty actresses, the French aristocracy married clever Jewesses who brought money and brains. I wish I could remember it, as I could not possibly convey the wittiness otherwise.
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I agree dana. I grew up with jews and I always thought of them as a different religion and ethnicity, but not necessarily a different race. I was talking to this woman who is married and has children with a jewish man and we were discussing how biracial people are often attractive. She mentioned that it didn’t always work out that way for half jewish, half christian kids. I think she was joking since her kids are cute. Anyway, it made me think she thought of her kids as biracial even though I never thought of them that way.
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You want the best of any nation(not race) in your country. Strict immigration laws enable this.
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White woman what do you think about the enslavement of white men to white woman via alimony and child support?
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””””’Tim
As a Canadian, I do admire Gorb’s impassioned plea for liberty and individual freedom and human rights. In fact, it almost sounds as if you are a Canadian.
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Yea but didn’t canada take away guns?
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@dana
as one of the resident jewy jewy jew jews i have to report that under no circumstances do jews consider themselves a separate RACE. i grew up in an all jewish milieu and went to jew school — i know jews
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growing up jewish in a northeastern city was exactly like growing up irish catholic–do they not have distinctive ways, lingo, food, religion, music, dress language, names appearance, career choices, etc?
Dana, I suspect we live in the same area.
The problem with people like WW is that they’re essentialists. They follow the same method of unthinking instinctive analysis that we’re programmed with. There are “essences” in all things. Races have an “essence”.
Biologically, there are lots of things to say about race. But it’s why white nationalists are so offended by the idea of miscegenation (even with Jews): like the one-drop rule, part of this infernal “Jewishness” will be transmitted. Any black or Jewish ancestors taint the population. Even though Jews are basically white people, pretty damned impressive white people at that, by all measures, they’re tainted goods and have to be a “race”. They have to be a race because races have the “essence”. If there’s no Jewish “Race”, just a culture/ethnicity, then there’s going to be a hard time proving some sort of Jewish conspiracy to dilute the Pure White Blood.
This is the approach they use in their literature. This is one of the reason that, unlike HBDers, they’re very sloppy with terms like race or ethnicity: They need to deliberately blur this line. “Whiteness” has to be a culture to them.
HBD isn’t about that at all. It’s about biologically specific things and effects. It’s very specific in all of its particulars.
Take WW’s argument about Stalin. If Stalin had Jewish blood, it was irrelevant to history: He was a vicious anti-Semite and Jew-hater, up there with the best Nazis. The Nazis laughed when Jews ran into the arms of the Soviets.
You can’t have it both ways; Either he was a Jew-hater and butcher or part of an international Jewish conspiracy to control the world. WW is typical of these WN suckers: They have a predetermined belief system that requires belief in basic principles that may or may not accord with facts. So they twist facts into shapes they recognize.
White/Asian racialists do the same thing. They don’t read HBD material or follow it; they just pick what they think supports their predetermined beliefs.
The WN’s ignore facts and use factoids to create elaborate conspiracy theories with only casual relationships to reality.
It’s why they can believe that there are actual conspiracies, when there clearly aren’t.
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@gunslingergregi
””””’Tim
As a Canadian, I do admire Gorb’s impassioned plea for liberty and individual freedom and human rights. In fact, it almost sounds as if you are a Canadian.
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Yea but didn’t canada take away guns?
Hm. Now that would be a problem for me.
Guess my honorary Canadian status will have to be dismissed.
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That’s a tricky one to answer. I am a dual citizen, but I did grow up in Canada, so ultimately I was enculturated as a Canuck. I did a three year hitch in the U.S. Navy, and did get to fire off some weapons, like the M14, which I love for its accuracy, although a tad heavy.
But when we talk about guns and america, we need to remember we’re talking about culture. This is not something rational. Your feelings are not rational. There are actually more guns in Canada per capita than there are in the USA. But they must be registered. The registration process is rigorous. You’ve got some priors? No guns for you. A felon? No guns for you. No driver’s license? No guns for you. No social insurance card? No guns for you. DUI? No guns for you.
So it’s quite a vetting process. I understand this rankles americans because, let’s be clear: america was born in revolution. The same standards for both countries don’t apply. Canadians like to hunt wild game -but nothing more. You’ll never find a Canadian stockpiling guns because he feels it’s his duty to one day overthrow the federal government. But this is somehow acceptable in the USA.
Like I say, this is cultural and irrational. I still very much admire the USA, but I don’t understand why the common man needs to have an RPG, or a rifle with armor piercing bullets.
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Dana & Gorbachev–
Are you aware of Cochran and Harpendig’s theory as to how Ashkenazi (but not other) Jews got IQ’s about 2/3 SD’s above the general white level, and in verbal a full 1 sd at around 115, the highest level of any ethnicity it the world?
They did a now rather famous 60 page or so paper on it which you can find on the net. The basic ideas are presented in shorter form here in Razib’s review of a part of their book, “The 10,000 Year Explosion: How Civilization Accelerated Human Evolution” — which covers a lot more territory than just Ashkenazi jews.
http://www.takimag.com/site/article/how_the_jews_got_their_smarts_and_other_adventures_in_biohistory/
Anyway integral to their argument is how little ingression there was of gentile genes into the Ashkenazim for an 800 or 1000 or so year period beginning around 800ad. The paper presents evidence. I.e. jews were/are a kind of sub, sub race. Definitely within the larger Caucasian one.
Similarly Hindu castes, to the extent they really haven’t interbred with other castes as opposed to just having formal rules that prohibit it, are a sort of sub sub etc. race as well, each of them. To the extent they’ve interbred only with members of the same regional caste for many hundreds if not thousands of years, we could expect regression to the mean in their offspring to be towards their caste or really regional caste mean.
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The main problem I have with WW and a lot of other WN folks is their weird, unhealthy obsession with the role of Jewish people. And when WW goes round after round trying to keep hold of her cherished belief that Joe Stalin was a member of the tribe it just screamed over the top obsession.
Don’t WW and her cohorts realize how crazy that is to believe? One can argue about family names and wives all one cares to but the towering fact remains that all of this and much more was known about Stalin in his own time and place and no-one believed he was anything but a Georgian. That includes, of course, the Nazis, who studied him carefully and who would have acted very differently if they thought such a story had legs.
So now 60 years after he dies some internet clowns start claiming they have made this amazing discovery using less information than was available during his lifetime.
That is very very hollow and it s all they have to sustain their delusions.
But if the need is great enough maybe that is all they require.
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Razib of GNXP fame.
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Loss of liberty — and accompanying things like surveillance and racial set-asides — are INEVITABLE as sociaty becomes more racially diverse.
I still don’t comprehend the zeal for importing lots of differently-looking people, males in particular, regardless of merit. Every normal and sane person wants to have, for himself and his posterity, a habitat, a nation, community, home, of people who look like he does.
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Tim
There have been some interesting developments in the last 15 years or so regarding gun control.
Briefly, in the mid 90s some places like OZ, the UK, Ireland banned handguns completely. About the same time, many states mover towards liberalization via new concealed carry laws and in some cases dropping of most restrictions. I live in Texas and have had a ringside seat. (contrary to Hollywood, Gun Laws in Texas were never permissive or simple; carrying a handgun=felony and licenseing was impossible)
Everywhere these big changes occurred the same thing happened – nothing happened. Overseas gun crime rates had been climbing and they continued to climb. In the American West gun crime had been falling and continued to fall.
It looks like gun laws are either ignored by criminals or wasted on the law abiding.
You are right, it is culture, or character that matters.
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@Doug1
Dana & Gorbachev–
Are you aware of Cochran and Harpendig’s theory as to how Ashkenazi (but not other) Jews got IQ’s about 2/3 SD’s above the general white level, and in verbal a full 1 sd at around 115, the highest level of any ethnicity it the world?
I’m aware of it.
But it misses my point. I never argued that outside blood got in (though it did, obviously, if you look at Jews from Europe); I argued that many Jews left the religion and the faith, by choice, chance, compulsion or accident. And that normal white Europeans likely have strains of Jewish blood running all over the place.
Humans fuck each other. The moment a mixed child emigrates (the great period of emigration to the colonies in the British Empire), all became chaos. Lots of “jewish” blood scattered here and there.
I know several people were were surprised to find out that a great-grandmother or grand-father was Jewish. Anglo Jews, the lower-class ones, like all members of the lower classes, tended to mix pretty freely.
This doesn’t even count the children of Jewish prostitutes in the victorian period, who were likely having sex with non-Jews. Their children, if they survived, likely grew up non-Jewish.
My point to white woman was that Jewish genes
got out; not that non-Jewish genes were breaking down the walls to get in.
They did a now rather famous 60 page or so paper on it which you can find on the net. The basic ideas are presented in shorter form here in Razib’s review of a part of their book, “The 10,000 Year Explosion: How Civilization Accelerated Human Evolution” — which covers a lot more territory than just Ashkenazi jews.
http://www.takimag.com/site/article/how_the_jews_got_their_smarts_and_other_adventures_in_biohistory/
I loved the book. And the review.
Anyway integral to their argument is how little ingression there was of gentile genes into the Ashkenazim for an 800 or 1000 or so year period beginning around 800ad. The paper presents evidence. I.e. jews were/are a kind of sub, sub race. Definitely within the larger Caucasian one.
Similarly Hindu castes, to the extent they really haven’t interbred with other castes as opposed to just having formal rules that prohibit it, are a sort of sub sub etc. race as well, each of them. To the extent they’ve interbred only with members of the same regional caste for many hundreds if not thousands of years, we could expect regression to the mean in their offspring to be towards their caste or really regional caste mean.
Again, my point was not gentile genes getting into the Jewish population; rather, Jewish genes getting into the larger population.
That went on a lot more than anyone (especially Jews) wants to admit. Actually, the ones least likely to talk about this are Jews, ironically, not non-Jews.
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Gorb
A different way of saying it be that if their had never been any persecutions or dis-incentives to maintaining a Jewish identity a much large percentage of the western world would be so identified and would be less distinct.
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..of saying it would be…
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Gorbachev–
But it misses my point. I never argued that outside blood got in (though it did, obviously, if you look at Jews from Europe)
Yes but mostly only in the beginning, with some additional bits later. Beginning post the fall of the western Roman empire.
I argued that many Jews left the religion and the faith, by choice, chance, compulsion or accident. And that normal white Europeans likely have strains of Jewish blood running all over the place.
Yes, that’s true. Though Jews were always a relatively small population within Europe as a whole. C&H actually also incorporate the theory that on the whole it was less intelligent Jews who married w/gentiles and were converted into Christianity in the middle ages etc. There was a point when the Rabinate started demanding of all Jewish boys a good lot of Talmudic learning and high literacy to be fully accepted as men in the community, apparently.
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@Bernie
Nonsense. Blacks in SA had the highest living standards in black Africa and the nation had a problem with illegal black immigrants trying to get into SA for a better life. All whites in SA wanted was to be separate and they would have easily won any race war in the unlikely event one would have occurred.
As whites are murdered, leave or just die off, SA is starting to revert to a typical black-run country, which is a shame for all people in that nation.
Not relevant to my point. The blacks in South Africa were oppressed politically and economically relative not to other blacks but to other South Africans.
Like all “social” racists, you assumed in your statement that the blacks of South Africa and the blacks of the rest of Africa were the same. Just blacks. Therefore, being better off, the blacks of South Africa were not oppressed, but benefited from being under white rule and were therefore freer than other blacks.
Except that blacks in Zaire are not the blacks of South Africa. You’ve fallen back into the trap of Blackness (Otherness).
It’s that Racialist notion of “Blackness” again. It’s the same assumption behind the notion of “jewishness”.
When blacks in South Africa looked at their oppression, they didn’t look at Malawi: They looked at other South Africans.
Again, the “nation” was where there lived, their state, their place, their culture. Not their race.
So yes, they were oppressed.
The fact that they were better off than other African people is irrelevant.
And yes it’s sad what’s happening in South Africa.
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we are witnessing a standard of fervent belligerence not seen here since the days of Wendy Schwartz
congrats on that Gorbachev
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Gorbachev–
No it’s not in the least irrelevant. It’s very relevant to what’s happening today in South Africa in fact.
Your line of argument heavily borrows from Marxist thought. The ANC was in fact Marxist, though they toned that down to get US and Euro boycott support.
I’m not denying that the Boers oppressed the blacks of various ethnicities in S. Africa. English S.Africans, many of them, thought so.
However I don’t think the disparity in income is down to oppression primarily. Some around the edges yes. Whites brought a far more materially advanced culture to S. Africa. And as well are genetically and not only for cultural reasons, a lot smarter on the whole. A whole lot of the oppression story though is based on the Marxist lie that all peoples and for neo Marxists even cultures are equally competitive in creating and running modern economies. The evidence is dramatically to the contrary. Observe Zimbabwe, after they ran almost all whites out. Observe the huge decline.
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@Doug1
Gorbachev–
The fact that they were better off than other African people is irrelevant.
No it’s not in the least irrelevant. It’s very relevant to what’s happening today in South Africa in fact.
Your line of argument heavily borrows from Marxist thought. The ANC was in fact Marxist, though they toned that down to get US and Euro boycott support.
I’m not denying that the Boers oppressed the blacks of various ethnicities in S. Africa. English S.Africans, many of them, thought so.
I made no comment on South Africa today. I was just saying: WW’s video with the chanting and death to whites was a specific cultural context in South Africa. Not relevant to the US.
And from the black perspective of being a black South African, they looked to their neighbors (whites). Not to the blacks of Sudan or Nigeria. From their perspective, or anyone in that position, they were oppressed.
Of course the ANC was marxist (old-school). I didn’t call myself an ANC member. Their theology-politics was repugnant to me.
The point is: They were oppressed.
However I don’t think the disparity in income is down to oppression primarily. Some around the edges yes. Whites brought a far more materially advanced culture to S. Africa. And as well are genetically and not only for cultural reasons, a lot smarter on the whole. A whole lot of the oppression story though is based on the Marxist lie that all peoples and for neo Marxists even cultures are equally competitive in creating and running modern economies. The evidence is dramatically to the contrary. Observe Zimbabwe, after they ran almost all whites out. Observe the huge decline.
Of course. I made very limited claims: The white people, from the very visceral view of black people on the ground, oppressed the black people. Hence a looming revolution.
I didn’t make a judgment on the managerial skills of the black population; I didn’t say anything about anything else.
Just that they were oppressed in every sense of the word. We’re not talking about monkeys, here, the blacks of South Africa, no matter how bungled their post-revolution was, were still oppressed by the white governing class. That this class was white was historically interesting but not germane to my point.
You keep impugning opinions to me that I just don’t have.
I was making a very limited point to WW: nothing more. I wasn’t making any other claim either way.
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if there is little ingression than why is my family whole family on either side–from two separate jewish communities in separate areas of europe–lily white with almost universal blue or green eyes? there was zero intermarriage within anyones memory on either side–until my uncle married a dusky brazilian lady and now has DISTINCTLY dark skinned noneuropean looking children who are visibly noneuropean at 20 paces and do not look or feel related to me at all
jews have a distinctive hair texture and head shape–no doubt–but so do EVERY other european group. people always think im italian and my natural skin tone is very fair
if you’ve ever seen sepharadic or mizrachi jews youd know right away ashkenazi jews are “white”–big nose don’t make you non white, neither does dark wavy hair
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Yes, *blick* people are not all the same, Botswana has done relatively well as not so many different tribes.
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dana–
Yes, but this is entirely consistent with Cochran and Harpendig’s thesis. They say the DNA evidence suggests there was a substantial ingression of female gentile genes into the Askenazi in the dark ages, but not much since – until modern times. Sure the odd Cossack rape and so on, just not that much.
The things their thesis explains include:
1) why the Ashkanzim have notably higher IQs than other European whites and their offshoot societies;
2) why the Ashkanizim have at least as large a gap above Sephardim and Mizrachi Jews;
3) why the Ashkanizim have certain recessive neurological diseases in much higher frequency than other peoples, such as Gaucher’s and Tay Sachs.
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Lily–
Botwswana is one of the largest diamond producers in the world and doesn’t have a very big population. About 2 million now. the black government is also smart enough to let De Beers run the diamond industry and to an extent the country. They’re closely cooperative.
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lol my family is like a jewish joke
my moms in second hand jewelry
dad’s a DR
grandparents were shopkeepers and landlords
2 great uncles were communists
maternal grandmother got EDD from columbia in 50s after a social work career
im a realtor (dont laugh its easy money working almost 100% from home) with a law degree (and i almost got a diamond grading cert lol)
all we need is a pawnbroker to complete the set!
oh and aspergers runs on my dad’s side–to the point of a true aspy genius who worked at bell labs
makes me laugh
but dont stereotype!!
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@Doug
Re Botswana, sure, but lots of African countries have a lot in terms of natural resources. Compared to other ‘blick’ countries, they don’t have ethnic problems. India is another place where they have a lot of natural resources but they have a lot of conflicts because shock horror, not all brown-skinned Indians are the same.
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Doug, when you see the decline of economies after extraction of colonial oppressors, be they White or Arab, you forget how environment and selection work.
Blackness is not to blame for their decline. It’s many generations of selection for advantage in a primitive economy, selection for advantage in what basically amounts to ethnic slavery, and only recently is there beginning to be selection for advantage in an economy no longer dependent on ethnic slavery or slavery like systems.
To stay alive as a slave, you have to be high on physical strength, and not so high on smarts or else you’ll rebel and/or suicide.
Gene expression of intelligence is going to be low pretty much across the board with potential 100+’s not reaching over about 90 or so. Only after a generation or two of eating well and being educated will those who have the potential for higher IQ’s begin to stand out on a global scale. If allowed to select relatively freely despite bad conditions, those on the higher end will select for others at that end even if it stays stunted in the high 80’s-low 90’s for a time, but the bouncing back will happen.
…and it’ll happen with a vengeance. My first husband’s parents didn’t graduate high school, but he’s a robotics engineer.
So those using Africa as an example of things going downhill when the Europeans get equalized or kicked out, give it 100 years.
If they learn from the European example of indulging too much feminism, and nip it in the bud, I think we’ll see a very much advanced Africa that might end up saving the Christian and secular world from being overrun by radical Islam.
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Lily–
What’s the richest black mini nation in the Caribbean?
Barbados.
They also let whites run the commanding heights of the tourism economy and keep corruption down and relatively good government in place in cooperation with those whites. It’s gdp per capita is even a little better than Botswana’s, and their one resource is tourism. Friendly, well run tourism, the Bajan way.
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@Doug
Afraid I don’t know much about Barbados so will bow to your knowledge.
A family friend was the governor of it and I got the impression it was quite English compared to say the Bahamas, but I think I’d rather go to Botswana on holiday. They have more animals there (well the sort one wants to see anyway).
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Lily–
Steve Sailer pointed these comparisons out in some post of his I read a few years ago. But have looked into it and he seems to be right about the co-operative right involvement. Certainly the gdp per capita facts are there.
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cooperative white involvement.
Yeah the camera safari prospects do seem a tad better in Botswana than Barbados. More envy making too.
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Jerry
Good point. Even on dating sites and the like I’m extremely choosy – even if it means getting a very low response rate. I just know myself well enough to know that physical attraction is paramount, and can’t be compromised on.
I’ve got to learn how to sarge.
I haven’t decided whether to stay here in this city and build on my rising business owner status or move to Bucharest and open a satellite office there. If I stay here I should invite people to visit, let em use one of my apartments, and go sarging.
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@Doug
Well I don’t care about the envy, just seems the best out of the African countries to visit. But I have to say I am a bit wary, seems like in most countries if there is civil outbreak there isn’t much to worry about (and I have been to some our esteemed Foreign and Commonwealth office tell us not to) but it seems on the whole in Africa, when there is civil outbreak they get the machetes out which personally I find quite scary. Botswana seems quite safe in comparison.
I’m not that enamoured by the Caribbean, I have only been to the Bahamas but I found it quite boring.
Funny thing about my Barbados-connected family friend, his kids (my age) spoke with a Bajan accent because of their nanny, they are very upper crust so the old family videos do induce quite a lot of giggles, even now. Sadly, they don’t have it now as that would be very funny.
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@Doug
I don’t know who Steve Sailer is, but I will check him out, thank you.
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Bulgaria.
I have no idea about either place. Somewhere with cheap employees and better English than than in Indonesia.
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Jerry ponders, “Learning about this was the first time I started wondering which is the right side in that conflict.”
The right side is the right of men to freely date and marry whoever they please instead of being trapped with women who mistreat them or are too closely related.
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[editor: open borders is a form of ethnic cleansing.]
Huh?
[editor: there are two ways to diminish a native stock’s influence on its own constitutional republic.
one, remove it by force.
two, swamp it with great numbers of foreigners.
ps proximity + diversity = war.]
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bictopia on July 25, 2010 at 6:27 pm
[editor: maybe, but it’s kinda true.
on another note, why do WN spokesmen so frequently speak with a GHEY lilt.]
In that particular case, it’s because that’s Kevin Alfred Strom who’s narrating, that’s why.
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Xsplat, open borders means no defense against encroaching cultures. At least if you regulate entry, you can properly assimilate or absorb newcomers into your culture.
Though everybody in a nation doesn’t have to be the same race, they should have a unified culture regardless of how many subcultures are within it. Call it cultural homogeny.
This is crucial. There should be one national language, no matter how many are spoken, and one national culture.
If you allow newcomers in without learning that language on a level that they can at least function basically, and don’t impart the nation’s values on them, then whoever breeds the most will take over regardless of whether or not the invading culture is actually more advanced/superior.
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So, removing a native stock’s influence=ethnic cleansing?
[editor: yes. otherwise, what’s the point of nations?]
Swamping it with greater influence=ethnic cleansing?
[demographically, there is no quantitative difference between losing numbers to war and genocide and losing numbers to shifting group ratios through foreign invasion. the loss of power will be felt either way just as keenly. as will the loss of cultural exceptionalism.]
I don’t believe you are the R who posts about game, but are a contributor here who posts about politics. Such fast and loose use of language is deliberately unclear.
[i find that cutting quips, while not up to the exacting standards of semantical nerds, are the best way to deliver a mind rattling point.]
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It’s also deliberately unclear to not give a name to a voice.
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Editor – ya, it’s nerdish to value precise nuance over propaganda.
[editor: the disregard of nuance isn’t propaganda.]
Yes, I agree that your lumping togther diverse concepts under one umbrella of association is a powerful way to influence people.
[that’s not a very nuanced statement.]
Of course you risk losing truth value. Because what you said is evil propaganda.
[what i said is the truth. it is evil to those whose feelings are hurt by it.]
As much as you associate the two concepts, they are distinct. You could make a stronger point using stricter language.
[how about this: i love diversity. ergo, i would prefer a more diverse world that had one mexico and one america over a less diverse world that had one mexico and one half mexico-half america.]
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editor: I have no argument against your politics regarding borders and diversity.
My argument is to your fast and loose use of the term “ethnic cleansing”.
That term has meaning.
[editor: actually, ethnic cleansing is a relatively recent euphemism invented by neo-utopian liberals. what happened to good old fashioned genocide? now that’s a term with pedigree.]
If you impute upon to it a whole different meaning, because to you it fits together with a class of concepts, that’s a use of language that is to promotes a propaganda style of ambigous thinking.
[my premise is not indicative of a “whole different meaning”. it is a valid extension of the euphemism into realms that make equalists uncomfortable.]
Unclear associations muddled together, for political means.
[life is political.]
Language is the tool we use to think clearly. If you use it badly, you think badly.
[and if you use it to accurately describe realities not covered under the original terms of agreement, you make certain people feel badly.]
Now if you want to make a simile out of it, fine. As a metaphor it doesn’t promote understanding.
[i think it works quite well. to wit: it has certainly caused righteous outbursts from the expected one-worlder commenters on this blog.]
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@ tim
dude I live vancouver the immigrants DO NOT assimilate what planet do you live on? it’s huge problem here
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Editor: As a provocation, it works quite well.
I find it difficult to believe that even you believe that you are stretching out a term. I think you know you are associating disparate terms.
[editor: true, it is given in the spirit of provocation. but then a well-executed provocation would not have the venomous bite it does if it were divorced from truth.]
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Ya. Lump me together with Orwell. I’m a stickler for clear language use.
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Lily–
Classic Steve Sailer. He’s fearless.
http://isteve.blogspot.com/2008/12/joel-stein-asks-how-jewish-is-hollywood.html
He’s also 1/4 Jewish and not anti-Semitic. Just a truth teller and amazing data miner. Though this piece isn’t so much data mining.
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This was my question to Gorb. Could they have won a race war?
I understand that the tide was rising against them. Could they have held up against it?
I understand Gorb believes that the moral authority was lost by the ruling whites. I’m unclear on that. I’m no fan of atrocities, but wonder if sometimes a greater good comes at a horrible price.
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@x splat
All whites in SA wanted was to be separate and they would have easily won any race war in the unlikely event one would have occur
This is all completely off even the off-topic, but what the hell.
It would have been ugly, though they would have won. Long-term, it would have gone very badly. They’d need good relations with neighbors to survive as a white nation in Africa. All in all, I think it turned out probably as well as it could. Black-run South Africa wasn’t going to be a ringing success, anyway. So what we have is likely the best-case scenario without a serious bloodbath.
The white population was too divided, the black population too desperate. The world was galvanized. Thankfully, South Africa had decent statesmen on all sides. Botha knew which way the wind was blowing, but went ahead with a referendum anyway (brave bastard); so he had the moral authority he needed to undo Apartheid. Mandela just had oodles of moral authority. And what was shocking was how he used it constructively.
And how quickly the ANC dumped its extreme marxism. I mean, it really could have been a lot worse.
This was my question to Gorb. Could they have won a race war?
Lots of dead on all sides. When you factor in global opinion, it would have been a disaster all-around.
No fun, no fun at all.
I understand that the tide was rising against them. Could they have held up against it?
I remember a sociologist saying that it might have lasted another 10-15 years, with reforms, but it was starting to reach the wall.
I understand Gorb believes that the moral authority was lost by the ruling whites. I’m unclear on that. I’m no fan of atrocities, but wonder if sometimes a greater good comes at a horrible price.
No idea how a war would have gone, really; it would have been guerrilla and underground and like a low-level civil war, permanently. I suspect the country would have been partitioned, but the whites are spread out everywhere. The economy wasn’t localized in one place. It would just have been a mess.
Honestly, I have to go with a few South Africans I know here now, about my age, who’ve emigrated: There was no good solution. Apartheid had to go, but how to get it gone – the way it did, was likely the least traumatic way.
On the other hand, the country went into the toilet. That was predicted, and inevitable, likely. I’d have to go with that, too.
But whatever, you can’t have it all: With freedom, comes responsibility.
So, given that SA is completely free of colonial control, the infrastructure was left intact, the systems weren’t just left intact but were fantastic, and the majority of the white people who are needed to manage the place are still there – pretty much nobody can complain that South Africa should be able to stand on its own two feet and serve as a prime example of how Africans can manage their own affairs and carry on in a modern state.
Ahem.
I don’t know if blacks are better off there than they were before; I suspect this is the case. But once the lost generation of blacks gives way to a new generation of (also lost?) blacks, maybe something can be made of the place. Who knows.
(though, yes, on the Botswana thing; despite the plus from its low population and ethnic homogeneity (or greater homogeneity) and assistance from the diamond industry, even so it does do better for itself. I would say, … the only country in that region to do so?)
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Re: S. Africa
A huge fact looming in the foreground in those days was that the USSR had just packed it in and everybody understood that whatever happened in SA, a communistic takeover supported by the USSR was not part of the picture. So the whiteys thought “Now maybe we can actually survive doing what has to be done to deal with demographic reality”.
And they were right, sort of. OTOH, we all know what is coming.
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Question: “What did they use for lighting in Zambabwe before lard candles???
Answer: Electric lightbulbs.
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@Rum
Question: “What did they use for lighting in Zambabwe before lard candles???
Answer: Electric lightbulbs.
Hehe.
But still sad.
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Hello Z-Dg, fellow Vancouverite. Small world.
I’m speaking in relative terms, and for purposes of this conversation, the comparison is between Canada and the USA.
I know the East Indians and south asians still have their honor killings; I’m not saying Canada is perfect, not at all.
But let’s be clear, white Americans are now afraid that the vast teeming hordes of dark and brown orklings are going to rise up and bastardize their nation. It’s a fear not entirely illegitimate.
Also, it may depend on what part of Van you live in. Do you live in Richmond? Ok, well, you’re basically living in China. So what? The Chinese are more afraid of you than you are of them.
Do you live in Surrey? Then get the hell out of there, every city has its hell hole. Plus, what is up with the stank of an East Indian household? Fucking hotass curry with the windows closed. Damn, somebody open the fucking door.
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If you don’t like curry you are obviously quite “Un-English”.
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More about the importance of only targeting hot girls; I have a 1 second test I use when looking at internet profile pictures. Is she hot enough to inspire me to dance hot with her on the dance floor?
As a younger man, I never danced. Hated it. It wasn’t until my first super hot 21 year old live in that I got a taste for the erotic thrill of it.
If her presence overcomes my inhibitions, she gets attention. Very few girls will stop me in my tracks on the street. That’s the kind of girl I target, because I’ve learned that’s my only viable relationship option. A hottie will keep me interested in her, physically.
I read this advice years ago. When choosing between looks and personality, choose for looks, young man. A hottie will keep you interested in her for sex through troubled times.
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White Woman ❤ Editor.
Great discussion guys. I learned a lot. Thank you!
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@gunslingergregi
Yea but didn’t canada take away guns?
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Nope, I own shot guns. We just have to register them.
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Thanks for clarification. I was hearing from someone that the canadian gov was going in and confiscating guns out of peoples houses.
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Did you hear about the arrests of innocent Canadians at the G20 convention Guns? http://www.henrymakow.com/irish_dan.html
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What IS the purpose of all this immigration into predominantly White countries anyway then?
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Personally, I think Leon DeGrelle was cool. So were Otto Skorzeny, Ernst Juenger, and Jochen Peiper. All of these guys had big balls, brains, and panache. They were handy with the steel too. Quentin Tarantino on the other hand is a chump wannabe, even if he makes some good films. That’s my 2 cents on white supremacy.
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@WW
What IS the purpose of all this immigration into predominantly White countries anyway then?
As our dear leader pointed out above, it is a form of ethnic cleansing.
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A little late to this post.
Nevertheless, I love this post and all the 30+ women on here going hysterical.
Nothing drives an old hag more bat shit than the realization that her best days are gone.
One wonders why all these 30-something-plus women come on here and endure the abuse.
My guess is they want Roissy to explain to them, in detail, why they missed the “Alpha Marriage Boat.”
You can almost hear them screaming “but, Roissy, I am a special snowflake. I deserve an Alpha.”
And Roissy calmly replying “Sorry, bitch, you should have cashed in your chips when you where younger, hotter and tighter.”
This is why I am certain that Roissy is either a genius or a madman.
Either way, I am going to keep reading this great blog.
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On Tuesday morning on her TV show, Wendy Williams stated that 31 was way too young to be the peak of attractiveness, and that women looked their best much older, such as 46, which just happens to be Williams’ age. She said maybe women are starting to go downhill by 56.
Talk about delusion…
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For what its worth, I like WW and have no problems with her posts. So she has at least one supporter here. As a minimum, religion provides us with emotional sustenance. It is a fact that religious POWs survived North Korean POW camps at a much higher rate than non religious. The Turks, who had the strongetst faith, lost no POWs. I believe it is far more than only emotional sustenance and is in fact an attempt to explain how the universe we don’t see operates and why. Most major religious concepts are pretty similar. Why did so many cultures and people see the same patterns in the way the universe runs and morality enforces itself? The law of Kharma is a near universal belief for instance.
Science very often simply verifies what philosophers and religion have long inferred. For example. science is now talking about multiple dimensions and realities being likely. That idea is in fact rather old. Spinoza being the most recent proponent among major thinkers. Most positivists fail to see that they are in fact confusing the mechanism for the purpose. Explaining the mechanism doesn’t tell us why something works as it does. A positivist universe doesn’t require intelligence or communication of ideas or personal development or life at all. Why would an otherwise efficient nature create them if not for some development of a being that survives after death on this level of existence? Why have nature at all then? Is nature God? Atheism is nothing but children playing at God and patting themselves on the back for their cleverness.
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Here is an excellent essay on conformism in America and how talking about feminism is treated like talking about UFOs:
http://www.happierabroad.com/ebook/Page31b.htm
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Although I don’t agree with everything in this essay, it is interesting. It is called “The 4 Catch 22s in America:
http://intellectualexpat.blogspot.com/2010/07/three-catch-22s-in-america-you-are-not.html
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Golum from Lord of the Rings or a delusional mature woman?
http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg401/scaled.php?tn=0&server=401&filename=xjc.png&xsize=640&ysize=640
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we need good women
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@Sad Brazilian, delusional–certified, mature? Ahm, no. If you meant aging, then yes.
@Hadi, it is almost as if you have to make them good. Thus-> Game.
That seems to be only workable way to prevent them from turning into bloodsucking vampiresess.
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right on hadi, groin itch cure will certainly put women on the road to goodness.
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omg dude those pics are off the fucking grid no wonder so many comments. Holy shit like a horror movie.
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[…] SUGGESTED READING: Women Are Most Deluded at 31 by Chateau Categories: Proverbs Comments (0) Trackbacks (0) Leave a comment Trackback […]
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41 is the new 31.
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“More like Female beauty ascends rapidly from 14-17, peaks around 18-21, plateaus around 22-24, begins to descend around 25 and rapid deterioration based on genes and lifestyle usually starts around the age of 34.”
It’s important to discount the “makeup factor”. Without makeup the 17YO will win every time even over a 21YO. Women get more expert at makeup as they age, by necessity. Not to mention push-up bras and other instruments of deception.
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