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Chicks Dig Jerks: Game Is Its Own Status

I love the chicks dig jerks series. Why? Because nothing better reveals the actual, instead of professed, sexual preferences of women than the real life men they boff. And quite often these men are the bunghole of society.

Today’s installment would be frickin hilarious if it weren’t also so bloody violent. Eh, it’s still a knee slapper.

Two pretty girls enter the ring to fight over one thug wannabe. One girl will not leave, killed when the other girl stabbed her in the chest with a kitchen knife and left her to die in the street.

It starts with a love triangle. Always best for bringing the drama.

He did it again, Sarah told her best friend.

Her boyfriend, Josh, kept saying she was the only one. He’d been telling her that the whole time they’d been together. More than a year.

But that day she found out he had been hanging out with his ex — this girl named Rachel.

All morning, while she suffered through school, Rachel was texting Sarah, boasting that Josh was with her. Again.

One of the leading indicators of alphaness is how many women fight over your asshole affections.

I’m so over it, Sarah said.

Maxim #73: When a girl emphatically insists she is so over you, she’s never been more into you.

He did it again, Rachel said.

Her boyfriend, Josh, had slept over the night before, then bolted. He swore he cared about her, but it didn’t feel that way.

Worst of all, she kept finding evidence that he was still seeing his ex — this girl named Sarah.

Playa gonna play!

For months, Rachel’s friends had been telling her to forget about Josh. She could have any guy she wanted.

It’s true. These pretty girls who pine for lowlife assholes have lots of choices in conventionlly defined high quality men. Yet they cling like baby chimps to their jerk lovers. Wazzup wit dat, B?

Rachel and Sarah hated each other, saw each other as competition. But they were more alike than either would have liked to admit.

And more alike to a hundred million other women. Once you strip away the packaging and the cocktail party fluff, women are essentially interchangeable. Players know this, which is why they swim in pussy while romantic idealists struggle to claim one overharvested plot of poon.

So who is this dashing Lothario the girls love with all their young hearts and open snatches? Meet Josh Camacho.

But the main thing Rachel and Sarah shared was Josh Camacho. […]

Josh had curly hair, the color of coal, spilling across sculpted shoulders. Black eyes, a long nose, wide lips curled into a sneer. His dark jeans hung low on his slim hips. He stood about 5 feet 5, but walked with the swagger of a bigger man.

Josh loved posing for cell phone portraits: flexing his biceps, waving a gun, showing off the tattoo that arcs across his back in inch-high Gothic letters: CAMACHO.

While seeing both Sarah and Rachel, Josh kept up a relationship with a third teenager, a girl he called “my baby mama.” They’d had a son together. He spent time with the baby but didn’t pay child support.

For a while, in high school, Josh cooked at Chick-fil-A and Pollo Tropical. But after graduation, he didn’t go to college, didn’t have a steady job or a car.

Chick-fil-A! That’s high status, ladies.

Here is a photo of the three lovebirds:

So what does this guy bring to the table? Let’s see…

Good looks? Not really. He’s got the skinny man six pack going for him, though. And of course the… ahem… exotic allure.

Money? Nope.

Job status? No.

Social status? Not any societally approved status. But he does have multiple women chasing him, which is a powerful form of social status. In fact, the most powerful kind.

Fame? Not when this was going down. But now he’s been preselected through the roof! Go long on his future lay rate.

Kindness, emotional support, and domestic chore splitting? No, no and fuck no.

Looks to me like this guy doesn’t offer women much of anything, if we go by what women — and the entire cultural apparatus — tell us that men should be offering them. But wait, there’s more. Here is what Senõr Camacho *does* bring to the table:

A cocky smirk. Slay lady, slay.

A righteous tattoo. Because how better to advertise your reproductive fitness than a self-referential tribute etched into your back?

A cool, unflustered demeanor. He knows the pussy is coming, so why sweat it?

And game. Oh yes, my friends, this kid has got game, and got it good. Keep reading for a prime example.

A lot of doubters of the efficacy of game insist that game is a charade that only works in the short term to fool women, and that women will eventually figure out the man doesn’t have “real” high status. Stories like this put the lie to that thinking. Game is its own status; the mere application of game is a demonstration of status, and not just a proxy for status. A cocky smirk and a devil-may-care attitude is as much real male status as a big bankroll. Often, it’s higher status. See: Mark Zuckerberg. This loser thug gets more and higher quality — yes, HIGHER QUALITY — pussy than a fucking billionaire.

And the continual application of game causes it to become second nature, an unthinking process, so that it is no longer a deliberate mimicking of the alpha traits women love but an extension of a man’s nature. Josh Camacho may have been born with some natural game, but undoubtedly his first successes with women reinforced whatever latent confidence he had, and the smirk that started as an affect soon became a subconscious reflection of his weighty ballsack and supercharged ego. Game will do the same for any man; the successes with women build on each other until your alpha pose isn’t a pose anymore. The opposite is also true: continual failures with women will build on each other until the latent, baby beta in you grows and consumes your soul.

Conclusion: if you want to nail good-looking women as efficiently as possible, and to keep them around fighting for your attention, start with learning game.

Game/charisma — One to six months to begin seeing results.

Money — Five to fifty years to earn enough to make a difference in attracting women.

High status professional career — Four to twelve years slogging through academia for the proper credentials.

Fame — Infinitesimally low odds.

Good looks — Luck. Or plastic surgery (see: money).

It’s a no-brainer.

Furthermore, if you want to bang the HOTTEST babes, learn uncaring asshole game. The hotter the girl, the more she will tingle for an unrepentant asshole. Corollary: if you want to date haggard cougars who’ve been plunged like a backed up toilet for twenty years and would settle for any old kind-hearted beta to help them raise their bastard spawn, then skip the asshole game. It’s overkill.

What was it about Josh that was so alluring? What made the girls swoon and dream of him at night and exclaim their undying love and tell their friends and family that “He’s special. You don’t see what I see in him” and stab a competitor in the heart in a jealous rage?

Well, here’s a telling glimpse at the source of his power:

Sarah texted Josh.1:06 p.m.: “Whatever Josh, you get so mad at me for everything but you don’t give a shit when she puts something up or says something. You always believe her.”

1:08 p.m. “It’s like no matter what I do she’s always that much better.”

1:13 p.m. “All we fight about is her or something that has to do with her, and it sucks. I hate fighting with you . . . I love you so much, but this shit hurts.”

Hours passed. Sarah tried again.

6:36 p.m. “You say you love me, but you don’t even have the decency to text me back?”

Finally, at 8:02 p.m., Josh typed, “Bring the movies.”

“Bring the movies.” Step aside, Skittles Man, there’s a new kid in town — Bring the Movies Man. This kid has mastered laconic text game. Overgaming man should take note. In the future, whenever I hit a stumbling block with a woman I’m trying to bed, I’ll remember the philosophy of “bring the movies”, and instantly my game will tighten and my ladykiller attitude will reassert itself.

Damn this chick isn’t calling me back? Wait… bring the movies!

Three dates and we still haven’t banged… bring the movies!

How do I reply to this weird text from her? Bring the movies!

She’s trying to make me jealous by flirting with another guy. Bring the movies!

She refuses to do anal. Bring the movies!

What else did Josh Camacho have going for him that girls found irresistible? He understood female psychology, and used that knowledge to his adavantage.

“When a teenage girl feels another girl is intruding on her territory, when she feels someone is disrespecting her, those are the things that upset them most.”

Josh Camacho may have understood this. Though he later denied saying it, his girlfriends remember him declaring, “If you love me, you’ll fight for me.”

Is this manipulation? Or romance? Whichever it is, in-demand girls can’t get enough of it.

Sarah was her dad’s sidekick. He took her to karate classes, Lightning games, Keith Urban concerts. She rode beside him in his cab, blaring the radio, singing country songs.

“Sarah loved to sing and dance,” said Danielle Eyermann, her friend since preschool. “She was always making up these crazy moves, pretending she was Britney Spears.”

Sarah also loved the cock of badboys. Like most hot chicks.

What I just wrote above is harsh, but necessary. The sugar and spice veneer needs to be stripped to the knotted wood below. Fathers across America need to understand what motivates their blossoming daughters, what primal forces shape their decisions and their reckless impertinence. For without that understanding, many parents will continue being hoodwinked by the predators in the weeds. And the predator isn’t who they think it is…

it’s their own daughters’ ids.

“[Sarah] just fell in love with [Josh Camacho], right then,” Amber said.

He said his name was Josh. Soon, he would be a senior at Pinellas Park High.

Two months later, Sarah told her parents she wasn’t sure she still wanted to be a veterinarian.

She didn’t know what she wanted to do, really. Except transfer to Pinellas Park.

Feminists wept. And yet, I’m sure they’ll find some way to rationalize the patriarchy for being at fault of dashing this young girl’s career dreams. Must be stereotype threat, or something.

Josh’s command of game is obivous:

Josh and Sarah flirted through the summer. But that fall at Pinellas Park High, he would hardly acknowledge her. He would just cut his eyes at her, Amber said, tip his chin.

In November, they finally got together. But even then, “he would never hold her hand or walk with her, claim her in front of other people,” Amber said. “When they were alone, he was all over her.”

PDA is beta. Josh understood this.

Everyone said Josh was Sarah’s first kiss, her first boyfriend, her first everything. He made her feel beautiful, like she mattered.

But her friends were worried. The first sign was when Sarah started wearing pants. Sarah always wore shorts. Even in winter.

“Josh didn’t want other guys to see her legs,” Amber said. “He started telling her who she could hang out with, who she could talk to.”

Chicks like to be led by men with psychosocial dominance. Josh understood this.

Sarah started spending all her time with Josh. She was so scared of losing him that she was losing herself.

Chicks love the drama of unstable relationships. Josh understood this.

Josh saw himself as tough and streetwise. Sarah pretended she was too. On her cell phone, she stored photos of Josh apparently smoking pot, Josh waving a gun. She downloaded hip-hop songs like Stop Callin’ Me and Chopped N Skrewed.

Chicks love men with strong identities. Josh understood this.

Where was Sarah’s father in all this?

She begged her dad for a pit bull. “You gotta be joking!” he remembers saying. He referred to Josh as “the rat.” He kept telling her, “That boy is no good.”

“But she was in love,” Charlie Ludemann said. “You can’t do nothing about a teenage girl in love.”

“The rat”. Pretty accurate description. Ok, so the father was aware the kid was a loser. But he sounds stupid — “can’t do nothing” — so it’s likely he didn’t have the brainpower to figure out a plan of action. Too bad, because there is something you can do about your teen daughter in love with a badboy…

You can ritualistically humiliate him in front of her. Nothing drains the passion from a girl’s love faster than a public diminution in her lover’s status.

Let’s see if the father took my advice:

He couldn’t keep Sarah away from Josh, so he invited Josh over for dinner, took him to ball games. To keep an eye on him.

“Don’t let nothing happen to her,” he said.

Nope. Instead, he elevated the kid’s status and welcomed him into the family. Dumbass. So how’d that “don’t let nothing happen to her” work out for you, pops?

Sarah had never been in any kind of trouble, but now that started to change.

In the first six months she was with Josh, police interviewed her six times, all over public confrontations. She and Josh screamed at each other at intersections. Yelled at Josh’s baby mama in the parking lot of the movies. Once, Sarah said Josh had punched her in the face and he admitted it. Her parents wanted her to press charges, but Sarah wouldn’t.

Chicks fall in love with men who hit them ALL THE TIME. It’s the dirtiest little secret about female psychology that the feminists try so desperately to keep hidden from public consciousness. I’m not surprised Sarah balked at pressing charges.

The next time her name was in a police report, Rachel’s was in it too.

Cat fights are sexy until someone’s pierced heart is spurting blood onto the street.

Soon a comment appeared under Rachel’s post. It suggested that Josh had “found better.”

It was from Sarah.

The biggest misogynists are other women.

Sarah didn’t feel she was worthy of Josh. Without a job or a car, how could she compete? Plus, she told her friends, she still had a curfew!

Rachel is so much prettier, she thought.

But she had already given everything to this guy — her senior year, her heart, her virginity. If he didn’t want her anymore, who would?

Rachel was cocky. How could Josh want anyone else? Look at her, she had her own car, her own apartment.

She was so much prettier than Sarah.

Camacho was playing these two girls like a fiddle. Master game. And all it required was an aloof attitude, an amused demeanor, and a terse communication style.

About 11 p.m., the time Sarah was supposed to be home, she and Josh were playing Wii at his sister’s house when headlights pierced the windows.

Josh recognized the car: Rachel’s red Saturn.

“Now I know why you’re not talking to me — because you got her,” Rachel texted Josh.

“That’s right,” typed Josh.

Alpha. No apology, no dissembling. If you thought that would turn off the girl, you thought wrong. The Betas of the Month winners could learn from this kid.

It’s a wonder [Camacho] had the dexterity: By then, he later admitted, he had thrown back five vodka shots and smoked seven White Owl blunts of marijuana.

“I don’t like you no more. Why are you down this street? Go home.”

I think I’ve ably proved the point of this post. To go on would be torture for the pretty lie pissants. I’ll just end on this game-unrelated note:

America is doomed. Way to go, progressive elites. GOOD JOOOOORB.

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  1. Ok, so the father was aware the kid was a loser. But he sounds stupid — “can’t do nothing” — so it’s likely he didn’t have the brainpower to figure out a plan of action. Too bad, because there is something you can do about your teen daughter in love with a badboy…

    You can ritualistically humiliate him in front of her. Nothing drains the passion from a girl’s love faster than a public diminution in her lover’s status.

    So what is a fat, balding paunchy white father going to do to ritualistically humiliate a black teenage street punk? In any physical confrontation it is dad who will be humiliated, not the young punk. (“I threw a right cross and knocked his old ass out…”)

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  2. Black guys have “competitive advantage” in the bad boy trade. You’ll see more black guy- young white girl couples as the preference for bad boys increases.

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  3. It was seeing stuff like this in my early 20s that convinced me about the futility of treating women with basic human decency. Of course, I did go for the pro- and semipro route- but I also much got more ‘unpaid’ sex as I stopped giving a shit about women.

    These are some of the things I saw in my very early 20s- and wrote about in yesterdays post.

    http://dissention.wordpress.com/2010/07/28/the-dark-side-5/

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  4. I wonder how many catties will come screeching in the comments, protesting that “not all girls are like this.” News flash: yes, you are all like this. That’s why wise guys will pump.. and dump.. and blow all the pretty ladies down.

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  5. 5’5″!!!!!
    low IQ!
    tight game.
    depressing.

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  6. Waiting for the feminuts and manginas to come crawling out of the wood work screeching how only LSE women would fall for thugs like this. Wrong!

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  7. holy shit!

    This is like the most random bit of high school drama played out on a big stage….

    But it is a damn shame that the father didn’t do anything when he could have, a damn shame.

    you were right in your previous posts – females are becoming more aggressive this day and age, and not only sexually

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  8. Loved it.just not for the violence

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  9. Too bad, because there is something you can do about your teen daughter in love with a badboy…

    You can ritualistically humiliate him in front of her. Nothing drains the passion from a girl’s love faster than a public diminution in her lover’s status.

    A real gem for fathers right there.

    “Say, Josh, what’re you up to these days – about 120 soaking wet? I bet my wife can deadlift more than you wee-man.”

    Later on, “Still, 5’5″, huh? You don’t seem to be getting any taller so maybe you should try getting bigger. ‘Prison camp’ is just not a good look for you.”

    Later on, after he smarts off, “We’re not seeing eye-to-eye, huh?” *picks up little Josh and puts him on a chair* “There, that’s better!”

    Find that button and start pressing on it, dads.

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  10. fuck…. been thinking about this story a bunch and it really angers me that the parents of the girls were that ignorant of what’s been going on.

    At what point do you look at your kids and start to differentiate between “teenagers will be teenagers” and “i need to step in there and do some fucking parenting”

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  11. on July 29, 2010 at 1:24 pm Basil Ransom

    Wow. I was expecting ghetto black or Hispanic chicks. If they were NAMs, it’d be interesting, but easy to dismiss as irrelevant. Point well taken sir. Still a little shocked.

    Was pretty obvious from the photos of who killed who, physiognomy rules. Wonder what percent of people would choose correctly if surveyed.

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  12. on July 29, 2010 at 1:28 pm Basil Ransom

    Meanwhile, some women are getting wet reading this. Love the detailed physical description, which omits his ethnicity.

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  13. The father needs to lay the groundwork early on that this type of person is scum and would not be acceptable. … I’m talking real early, starting at age 4. This is when the daughter is most impressionable and it will become ingrained in her. It also helps if the mother is on board.

    A simple way would be to never be impressed with anyone without an education no matter what. Children would pick up on that.

    Without this groundwork, trying to put down the boy after your daughter is already in love would be pretty difficult no matter how clever the put down. Strictly forbidding her from seeing him runs into its own set of problems.

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  14. @ askjoe

    5’5″!!!!!
    low IQ!
    tight game.
    depressing.
    inspiring!!

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  15. This story has nothing to do with bitches because bitches just gravitate to whatever power is there whenever they are left in a vacuum.

    This story is just more proof that white American dudes have fucked themselves in the asses. A scrawny, brown, tattooed freak is more desirable to hot chicks.

    What is a typical white American dude other than a fat, balding consumerist who is brainwashed by the media, and busts ass to work for The Man, support his fat ex-wife and pay alimony?

    Why would any hot chick want to get with that?

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  16. on July 29, 2010 at 1:43 pm Miley_Cyrax

    Not a day goes by that I don’t consider dropping out of NYC finance and going back to my home town to get a tattoo and thug it out, bang hot dumb high school seniors for the next ten to fifteen years.

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  17. BTW, your taxes paid to raise that brown freak and his progeny.

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  18. amanda knox- another femme killer.

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  19. dude is the man.

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  20. on July 29, 2010 at 1:49 pm greatbooksformen

    well, womenz fund publish promote powerful woemnz fund publish promote and fuck secretev tapers of butthex without teh girlths ocnethent and then they fund publish promote them repet their lies and fuck them some more wmoenz do lzozlzolozzlozloozoz.

    this is why men created moralityu and wrote great books to exalt the man’s soul so that we would be ruled by law and not byu gina tingles lzozlzlozlozlozloz

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  21. Much of this guy’s tight game probably had to do with the fact that he isn’t very bright and didn’t have much to say anyway. He is also a couple inches shorter than me.

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  22. As America browns, blonde white chicks dumping SWPL herbivores for wetbacks will increase.

    It’s a good thing I got a laugh at the end: at least two of these promiscuous cretins are taken out of the gene pool.

    vaya con puta

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  23. “Not a day goes by that I don’t consider dropping out of NYC finance and going back to my home town to get a tattoo and thug it out, bang hot dumb high school seniors for the next ten to fifteen years.”

    Nah, keep on working.

    About 10 brown kids and 2 baby mamas depend on your taxes to pay their welfare. Not to mention the 5 boyfriends who rely in turn on the baby mamas’ for spending cash.

    I’m sure your gold digging NYC girlfriends, and future ex-wife and future kids will appreciate all your hard work. Keep it up.

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  24. Read some of the comments under the article. They’ll make you puke. If you didn’t know better you would think the guy was the murderer. All the comments I read are about how terrible he is, meanwhile the cold-blooded psychopath murderer was the girl, who stabbed another girl in the heart with a steak knife.

    But since girls are vulnerable little angels not accountable for the things they do, or the guys they see, it’s the guy who is the bad one here.

    Unbelievable.

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  25. Is it just me, because these Chicks are NOT hot, maybe a 5 or 6 on a good day.

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  26. on July 29, 2010 at 1:58 pm namae nanka

    Read some of the comments under the article. They’ll make you puke. If you didn’t know better you would think the guy was the murderer. All the comments I read are about how terrible he is, meanwhile the cold-blooded psychopath murderer was the girl, who stabbed another girl in the heart with a steak knife.

    But since girls are vulnerable little angels not accountable for the things they do, or the guys they see, it’s the guy who is the bad one here.

    Unbelievable.

    gotta agree,
    Though not exactly puke worthy, I laugh and I laugh, better than most of the comedy you see around these days.

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  27. @ Anonymous

    “Is it just me, because these Chicks are NOT hot, maybe a 5 or 6 on a good day.”

    Context matters: these are young white girls in a southern town.

    He couldn’t look at those girls 4 decades ago. Now they are fighting over him.

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  28. The sad truth of it is that CH is totally right about all this stuff, and the rational response for young men is to just go with it. Us old married dudes with daughters are the ones who are going to have to try to hold the line. I’m not optimistic about our chances.

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  29. 2 words: Ghetto Game

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  30. on July 29, 2010 at 2:02 pm Miley_Cyrax

    @ anonymous
    Cognitive dissonance. More comforting to believe these chicks aren’t that hot than to deal with the sobering realization that girls, regardless of hotness, will submit to thuggery.

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  31. on July 29, 2010 at 2:03 pm Cannon's Canon

    rachel rocks that anouk-style duck face

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  32. “Bring the movies.”

    I think I laughed so much I nearly wet my pants.

    Thank, you, CR.

    Says it all.

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  33. on July 29, 2010 at 2:09 pm Capt. Obvious

    Fathers are idiots when it comes to their daughters, mostly.

    I think this is because most fathers are betas to the core. They think that what worked at attracting women back in the day will work now, so they assume their daughter will be attract to the nerdy guy with a good job. Wrong.

    Further, young women are the most easy to game since they love excitement and mystery.

    About the only way for a father to prevent his daughter from dating bad boys is to grow her up very religious and send her to religious oriented high school & colleges.

    Although, even this is no guarantee. The allure of the badboy is strongest in the young chicks.

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  34. Few points:

    He’s not black.

    The term “wetback”, as some Obelisk of Brilliance brought up, is used towards Mexicans. I’m wondering what, if anything, gives the impression that he’s Mexican.

    The blond is hot. The other chick is too Jewish looking for my taste.

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  35. Oh … and “bring the movies” is classic.

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  36. on July 29, 2010 at 2:14 pm Vincent Ignatius

    These types of stories are great fuel for inner game. Once you understand the psychology of women, you can’t possibly put them on a pedestal. It’s stories like this that demonstrate the proper place of any girl is grovelling at your feet.

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  37. on July 29, 2010 at 2:14 pm Capt. Obvious

    Oh, and the take away message from this story is pretty simple:

    If you want to do well with young women (18-22), douche it up. Douche it up hardcore.

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  38. on July 29, 2010 at 2:17 pm greatbooksformen

    “The rat”. Pretty accurate description. Ok, so the father was aware the kid was a loser. But he sounds stupid — “can’t do nothing” — so it’s likely he didn’t have the brainpower to figure out a plan of action. Too bad, because there is something you can do about your teen daughter in love with a badboy…”

    lozlzozlozlzozozlzl hey you gottsa rememebr that a woman has a irght to her own body and there is nothing adas can do these days to stop woemnz gteting asscocked in all difefrent manners and puped and dumped and fucked on and cum on by dudes as a woemnz has a right to shoose lzozlzozzl

    no fatehr has any power against the fed’s desouling / asscocking /thugcocking program and if a dather stands up against it he wil be branded crazy old patriarchal they will deconstruct him faster than day did 2 da great boosk lzozlzozlozozzlzo as they asscock his girlo in front of him and inacacerate hime and then set him free but only to pay child supprot alimony to the fed zlzozlzlozozo

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  39. on July 29, 2010 at 2:19 pm greatbooksformen

    “Capt. Obvious

    Oh, and the take away message from this story is pretty simple:

    If you want to do well with young women (18-22), douche it up. Douche it up hardcore.”

    loozzlz if he assocked teh chicks and filmed it in secrete simon and shcuster ‘s priscilla painton would have wired him hudnreds of thousands of dolalrs and his lies about hies height if any would have been repeatted as religious gsopsle gospel in the noecns weekly standadth lzozollzo

    the fed funds and encourages this behavior whuloe attacking abnd sdestroying manghood and fatherhood lzolllz

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  40. Pretty?
    Their skankiness subtracts from any semblence of beauty.

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  41. on July 29, 2010 at 2:21 pm Miley_Cyrax

    If I have a daughter who digs thugs like this I’m just going to Titus Andronicus her. I hope I don’t have daughters.

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  42. on July 29, 2010 at 2:23 pm greatbooksformen

    bring the movies

    lzozozozl

    i bet she brought these movies over:

    sir lawrence oliveiers 1949 hamlet
    ben huurrr
    the tenh commandments
    citizen kane
    the bicycle thief
    shane
    the searchers
    doctor schivgo
    gone with da wind lzozlzlzlzoz

    lzozozzloolzzoozozozzolzol

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  43. strong work.

    camacho lay futures <<< silver futures (get physical)

    why not a reframe first, though

    'its complicated. bring the movies'

    neo-fascist rule triggered revolution underway.

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  44. I would call it overgaming when some1 gets killed..

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  45. on July 29, 2010 at 2:28 pm greatbooksformen

    lozozozozozzl

    i feel like the neocns pumped and dumped uss with all the unpayable debt lzozlzzloozo

    MORE WAR ON FOREIGN SHORES! MORE DAUGHTERS DATING fucking sucking DOUCHEBAGS!! MORE BUTTHEX AND SECT?REV TAPINGS OF BUTTHEX!!!! MORE DIVIORCE AND LESS DADS!!! KILL MORE FETHUSTYTHESS!!!

    the fed funds all this as it grows teh warfare/welfare staete while desouling the people. lzozlzl

    lzozlozozlozozlzlz goldberg cherubic faced lzozozl [pizza piggy

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  46. on July 29, 2010 at 2:29 pm greatbooksformen

    anything that gcreates dent debauchery and dependence is good to da neocn

    anything that creates sublime spirit soul holiness honor integrity is bad.

    thus they fund promote sectirive tping s of assocking sessins without teh girtlths conthenht war war on foreign shores war on the unborn war against men and fathers zlozlllzozozlzlozzolo BUTTHHEHEHXHXE!!!

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  47. I cannot stop laughing from Bring the Movies. Had to take a walk to get it out of my system. Still haven’t.

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  48. on July 29, 2010 at 2:32 pm Rant Casey - Brazil

    “Bring the movies”.

    I’ll remember that.

    ***

    The most interesting thing about shit tests, is that deep inside, every woman knows she is not to be taken serious. Her matters are trivial. She has nothing but sexual amusement to bring to the table. And that is the most of the significance she can aspire – to men (further reading: The Manipulated Man, by Esther Vilar).

    Then she shit tests. Theres no better way to sort out wheter a man is a romantic pussy head, or a grounded man.

    “Bring the movies”… you didnt fool me, woman. Bring the movies, for we both know your saying makes no sense at all, and you’d rather shut up, if only men would be clever enough do demand the best of you – silence!

    Your mind is not sound, and your emotions are your masochistic torture – it burdens you, and you always come back for more. Bring the movies, and shut the fuck up – you’re safe, for I dont care for what your saying.

    Dont bother trying to make sense. You will not. Just bring the movies.

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  49. on July 29, 2010 at 2:33 pm Rant Casey - Brazil

    ‘its complicated. bring the movies’

    ^
    II

    Now… thats the State of Art.

    hahahahahah

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  50. No surprise this was in Florida.

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  51. @LS

    Yup. Florida is America’s Australia.

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  52. “5’5″!!!!!
    low IQ!
    tight game.
    depressing”

    Just like Obsidian only not the tight game part!

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  53. No comprendo; when I was those girls’ age boys like this guy scared me silent.

    Not clear on how daddy regulates teenager, but not letting her transfer high schools for a boy is one place to start.

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  54. on July 29, 2010 at 2:44 pm whorefinder

    Ah, nothing like a couple of dirty little nigger fuckers to reinforce the conclusion that civilization is heading for a complete breakdown.

    Women are so worthless.

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  55. on July 29, 2010 at 2:45 pm greatbooksformen

    from a very early age teh federal reserve tells womenz that they are in control taht they get to choose that they have full right to tehir bodies lzozzoz

    this is a greatly destabailzing force, and then neocn jonah goldberg comes in and ann9ounces that “women tame men” and theat the fminists are right lzozlozl

    the neopcns profit in a massive manner via preemptive war on foreign shors and secretiev tapings of butthex without teh girlths conthent as the weekly standard repeats the lies about teh higehrt iof those who secrteivalye tape buthex without teh grilths conthent while sthier sister company sodom and schuster wires hundreds of thousnads of dolalrz tso buttehxers while fatehrhood men are ccrimiliazed and teh great boosk debauched and deconstructed and young men are drugged up and dumbed donw lzozlzlzl

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  56. neo-fascistcon rule triggered revolution underway.

    fixed.

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  57. on July 29, 2010 at 2:53 pm Gunslingergregi

    ””””OhioStater
    Black guys have “competitive advantage” in the bad boy trade. You’ll see more black guy- young white girl couples as the preference for bad boys increases.
    ”””’

    Yea but I am 5′ 8″ or so and heavy and was in the neoghetto and had the woman of black 6″ thugs like killers and shit all up on my nuts. I swear every black dude was 6ft and a skinny that came over. Was kind of odd.

    They backed down from me when I was talking about niggers and shit. I spoke my motherfucking mind.

    But I am probably something of an aberation.
    White thugs do tend to outthug the thugs plus add brain he he he

    White alpha is what I got my money on he he he

    Plus growing up gangs of blacks show respect/or fear one white dude who doesn’t give a fuck.
    Go figure.
    I don’t know the deal.

    But rednecks on the other hand yea put the money on rednecks or wanna be’s.

    Or put it another way no black dude ever started a fight with me. A lot of white dudes did and shed tears.
    One black dude wanted to box I said lets wrestle and picked him up over my head on the b’ball court where he was like ok ok ok I’m good I’m good.

    So maybe it creates white diamond and some white glass gets broken maybe a good thing.

    ”””””’Capt. Obvious
    Fathers are idiots when it comes to their daughters, mostly.

    I think this is because most fathers are betas to the core. They think that what worked at attracting women back in the day will work now, so they assume their daughter will be attract to the nerdy guy with a good job. Wrong.

    Further, young women are the most easy to game since they love excitement and mystery.

    About the only way for a father to prevent his daughter from dating bad boys is to grow her up very religious and send her to religious oriented high school & colleges.

    Although, even this is no guarantee. The allure of the badboy is strongest in the young chicks.

    ”””””
    How do you think I got my 10 with the corvette at freaking 17 with no car of my own and no money. She paid for dates. She was in love. I cheated on her. She had woman rolling up in her high school with notes and shit that I was fucking them. She picked me up I had sucker bites and shit on my neck. Even after her and her mom saw me with the sucker bites on neck she still rolled with me to prom. But yea I don’t know what the fuck. Probably couldn’t have kept her as a thug only but would have had to move on from that keep thug mentallity but also have a way to make loot.
    Which yea thug works and the not caring but I mean also you got a dream the whole time and some ambition. It is not only the thug part but it is also the combination with naked fucking ambition that is what makes the bitches love you. So yea I didn’t care about dieing and I was hard. I also had plans to do some shit with my life. Not only not giving a fuck is what gets you shit but ambition as well. Even at that age I had ambition.

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  58. I would like to point out, for the record, that this is a different Sarah.

    A few quibbles with CR:
    a) The hottest girls? Yeah fucking right. Left-hand girl is passably pretty, perhaps a 6; right-hand girl is hoping that her Paris Hilton impression will make up for her awful facial structure.

    [Editor: Sarah is a 6.5, Rachel is an 8]

    b) This DOESN’T prove that asshole game gets girls. This proves that asshole game gets stupid, vapid, attention-whorish, flakey girls who pretend to be Britney Spears. Look at right-hand girl. Just from her facial expression, you can tell she’s got a room-temperature IQ.

    [I don’t think you quite get it. A woman’s value to men is almost entirely wrapped up in her looks. And asshole game works on all kinds of hot chicks. The low self esteem canard is just a pretty lie to help jealous broads and feminists like yourself rationalize their sisters’ choices.]

    c) He got the girls for being conventionally attractive– extremely well-muscled, tattoo, nice face. He’s easily physically hotter than either of his girlfriends, which can explain their attraction without game.

    [No, that’s not it. He’s average looking, maybe a little better than average. But I’ve known plenty of much better looking men who could not for the life of them get two pretty young girls fighting for their attention. Clearly, badboy game and learnable charisma was responsible for Camacho’s success.]

    d) Feminists would not argue with you. Feminists would point out that his behavior is something they like to call ’emotional abuse,’ that they are very aware exists, and that they are very aware manipulates women into staying with their abusers. The facts aren’t different; the difference is whether these facts are considered a good thing.

    [Men give women what they want and what will open their legs. “emotional abuse” would not work if women didn’t get horny for men engaging in it, and men would stop being assholes if it stopped being effective at attracting women.]

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  59. Some of the comments in the original article are hilarious: A dried-up old harridan, without doubt, blames the girls’ “Lack of self-esteem”.

    Rather than their morbid attraction to posturing midget pseudo-tough guys.

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  60. Funny how the Yenta on the right succumbed to him. At least, thanks to this Comacho guy, we are spared one welfare queen and one future women’s studies professor. We need more people like him

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  61. I should have said Yenta on the left.

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  62. Wake up white man. Become an Alpha…

    For the future of your country, for your culture, for your race… and for your dicks…

    Wake up.

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  63. The point of this post is well-taken. Jealousy between girls is nothing but great for the guy involved. There are definitely universal principles to take from this story, but it also needs to be remembered that these were teenage girls, not really interested in anything beyond the present. They were not even thinking about having kids or getting married. I think it is safe to say that the younger the girl, the more she is likely to follow tingles only.

    But Josh Comacho would not succeed in the arena where most of us are competing. Young post-college professional chicks in cities, out at trendy bars, are not going home with Josh at the end of the night. While they are following their tingles, they are looking for relationships with guys that will give them what they want and make them look good.

    I think most girls travel the spectrum from pure alpha towards greater beta/lesser alpha as they approach their mid-20s. This is something Josh Comacho evidentially understood as well…he played to the right market. But I don’t back down from my earlier disagreement with the editor: for single girls with college degrees (which I’m guessing is the predominant target population for guys reading this blog), you have to have real status to back up your game. Realistic ambition can be real status (med student, legitimately talented artist or musician), but you need more than game to prevent backsliding.

    [Editor: No, you don’t. Game *is* real status. Of course, the other status enhancers are nice to have as well.

    btw, I’ve seen guys like camacho do well with college educated women.]

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  64. Charles Manson was a little twerp of a man who did not have two nickels to his name. Yet he was able to build a harem of college age girls who were literally willing to kill for him.

    Game rules all.

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  65. on July 29, 2010 at 3:17 pm Rollo Tomassi

    Alright students, it’s compare and contrast time:

    Josh “macho” Comacho vs. 2009 Alpha of the Year Corrrrrrey Worrrrthington

    Alpha swagger – check
    Washboard abs – check
    Controlled substance abuse – check
    Fuck off attitude – check
    One word game – check
    Unapologetic – check

    LETS GET IT STARTED!

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  66. anouk is more zen, boho artiste “pixie like” than duckface, plus, i dont think ducky girl could surpass anouk’s ass

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  67. on July 29, 2010 at 3:19 pm Gunslingergregi

    This dude could have been me but I think I had way more woman.

    In my younger thug days never hit woman nor yelled at them. It is always the womans descision to do shit not my job to scream and convince her of anything.

    That is where the dudes game is weak is he caved to the womans demand to stroke her ego.

    But yea he did get a bitch to kill for him.

    So yea he might have not had steady job or college but neither did I and look where I am now.

    I bet that this dude had one hell of a dream in order to get a chick to kill for him. He had more than a shit job or thug life to do it. He had a dream he was following. Or he was lieing about one.

    I also didn’t pit woman against each other I just didn’t see a moral problem with cheating I never told a woman I wasn’t gonna see another woman nor told them I loved them ever while young. The only woman I told I loved was the first woman I married. That was it up to that point.

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  68. No need to be callous about her in death. Her family has been through hell, i don’t see the point in humiliating someone that needlessly died. That’s just me though.

    Not pointing this towards any one person in particular, neither am i criticizing the editor.
    It does serve as a cautionary tale, so the story should be discussed.
    She was murdered by another woman, the man had nothing to do with it, yet there are factions which believe the man should have been punished.

    I have seen men like him couple with attractive, Caucasian social workers, humanitarians and women with PhD’s.

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  69. Sidewinder,

    Good post – most women get a little wiser with age. But what the grubby tale of Camacho shows is that, to snare girls at the pinnacle of their beauty, just be a triple-A cad and shit.

    And even more “educated” and “mature” women (I think they only reach mental maturity in their seventies) have been known to take up with shiftless buffoons.

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  70. There’s nothing that gets a girl interested in a guy like the fact that another girl is interested in him. And it’s not just a question of the other girl’s interest giving the guy social proof either, it’s much more atavistic than that. I think it’s pathetic to justify killing someone on the basis of one’s self-esteem, but the competition between these two girls wasn’t just based on how horny the guy made them, there was an ego element involved too.

    Funnily enough, it would have made more sense if the killing were the other way round, or am I missing something.

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  71. I don’t doubt that many Camachos of the world have succeeded with college-educated girls…but not in large numbers. Game is largely a numbers game, so you have to play the percentages. I also agree that confident game around girls can be an independent form of status, but I would argue that it is less and less an independent form of status the older and more life-experienced the girl in question. College-grad girls in their mid-20s expect some competent level of game in interacting with guys, and are usually looking beyond that for indications of true social/professional status.

    [As an aside, I wish I could have video recorded an interaction I had with a cute 8 at the store 20 minutes ago. It was so pitifully terrible that I was mentally standing outside of myself observing it as it was happening, and almost started laughing at myself as I failed miserably.

    Me: What do you like to do on the weekends?
    Her: I go up to the lake usually.
    Me: You headed to lake this weekend?
    Her: No, I’ve got some business to take care of in the city.
    Me: Ok then. Have a good one

    Its like I could see the car crash before it happened and couldn’t do anything to stop it. Chalk it up to a learning experience.]

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  72. Hi Cap’n Bob

    That is awful, that we lose our looks at the end of our twenties but only get smarts to compensate in our seventies. That gives us fifty years in a wasteland of sheer uselessness. Biology is a terrible thing.

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  73. A forty year wasteland actually, brain cells still in embryo alas, maybe my maths will also improve in my seventies.

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  74. Beta of the Month candidate?

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arjuna-ardagh/goddess-worship_b_660896.html

    This beta would benefit from Josh’s tutelage.

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  75. “You can ritualistically humiliate him in front of her. Nothing drains the passion from a girl’s love faster than a public diminution in her lover’s status.”

    CH, do you have a Paypal account? I’m buying you a pizza.

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  76. Ladies, we men value a woman’s looks over everything else.
    If we’re lookin for certain qualities in woman, she has to be hot before we go any farther.
    We don’t care how many good qualities your friend has, if she resembles a pitbull they’ll be dismissed.

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  77. Sdaedalus,

    You do me wrong: Womens’ looks are finished in their late thirties.

    So only forty years in the wasteland (and maturity is not the same as smarts.)

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  78. on July 29, 2010 at 3:29 pm Miley_Cyrax

    @ sidewinder
    Cue Tyler Durden’s “you’re in your head and not in the moment”. Props for trying though through the awkwardness.

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  79. on July 29, 2010 at 3:30 pm Capt. Obvious

    How old are you sidewinder?

    You sound like an older dude.

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  80. “And more alike to a hundred million other women. Once you strip away the packaging and the cocktail party fluff, women are essentially interchangeable. Players know this, which is why they swim in pussy while romantic idealists struggle to claim one overharvested plot of poon.”

    A shorter formulation: “They’re all sisters when you turn them over.”

    In contrast to pedestalizers/onitisers players do not WORSHIP female beauty and ironically have less problem with women. As I read somewhere else, a truly wicked but beautiful woman measures her worth not by the status of men she can land but by the status of men she can reject. One of the best depictions of the heart of a woman who thinks like this is Galadriel’s transformation in The Lord of the Rings:

    Listen to the words of this woman: “In place of a Dark Lord you will have a Queen – Not dark but beautiful and TERRIBLE as the dawn – treacherous as the sea – stronger than the foundations of the earth – all shall love me and despair!” (of ever being loved back by me). The ultimate black hole Borg Queen sucking the savor of life and love out of everyone else and giving nothing in return. When men pedestalize women they tempt women to believe and act in exactly this way – most women know that they are not proper objects of worship and recoil from men who pedestalize them. A good woman wants to be used and put to work by a superior male – not worshipped.

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  81. Miley-Cyrax

    Thanks for the encouragement. I will credit this blog for making me more self-aware. In the past, I wouldn’t have been in the moment enough to realize how much I was screwing up.

    I will give myself this one out: I am married and would not have tried for a number close…part of my lameness was that I didn’t know where to go with it. I wasn’t going to ask her to grab a drink with me, so I was kind of stuck. I think my only saving grace is that she probably sensed that I wasn’t embarassed or shaken by the awkward convo.

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  82. Face it, sarah, you’re dripping wet from his thuggery.

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  83. on July 29, 2010 at 3:34 pm Gunslingergregi

    oh shit that is nuts.

    Man.

    mua mua hhahahahahhahahha

    That dudes ego is gonna be fucking huuuuuugggggeeeee.

    But yea the bitch did it on her own so yea he should get no punishment.

    But yea. fuck

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  84. Capt. Obvious,

    I’m 33.

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  85. on July 29, 2010 at 3:36 pm Miley_Cyrax

    Shortness is less of an issue when you’re in high school and your competition has yet to attain their full adult height, and tall guys are still thin and lanky and awkward. However, in college age the late bloomers are taller and the already tall guys fill out. Thus, height is now of more importance.

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  86. @William
    Ladies, we men value a woman’s looks over everything else.
    If we’re lookin for certain qualities in woman, she has to be hot before we go any farther.
    We don’t care how many good qualities your friend has, if she resembles a pitbull they’ll be dismissed.

    I think most women reading this blog have worked this out by now, assuming of course we hadn’t already figured it out in real life well before we got here.

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  87. on July 29, 2010 at 3:37 pm Rollo Tomassi

    Alpha is a state of mind, not a demographic.

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  88. Cap’n Bob

    I think you know I am only gently teasing.

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  89. Your maths are worse than mine. Late thirties to seventy is only thirty and a bit years or so, just about half a lifetime. It is not so bad.

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  90. on July 29, 2010 at 3:42 pm Stud Dynamite

    100 comments and no Idiocracy reference? This shit is just eery – Josh just might be great ancestor of future president Dwayne Mountain Dew.
    It’s an interesting – how status games relate to “talks like a fag and his shit all retarded” and generally low IQ. Really going back to my yesterday’s comment I’m starting to doubt the whole evo-psych theory and lean toward simplier explanation – dumb “alpha” types don’t rationalize to themselves why they can’t ask and do ask, for pussy and otherwise.

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  91. on July 29, 2010 at 3:42 pm Miley_Cyrax

    @ sdaedalus

    Apparently not, as we still have a multitude of females and white knighters that still try to dispute the imperativeness of female looks and other basic tenets. Sort of like on Dave Berri’s blog where Kobe fans still insist he is the best player ever. People cannot accept the truth when their pathetic faith is quashed by logic and science.

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  92. on July 29, 2010 at 3:44 pm Capt. Obvious

    “I’m 33.”

    What age did you get married?

    I only ask because, while it is true the younger women do respond better to douche-type game, women in their mid-20’s still respond well to game and game alone in big cities.

    After all, these women don’t plan to settle down until their late twenties or even later.

    I think game alone will get you pretty far as long as the women in question isn’t in “settle down” mode (i.e., looking for a husband).

    But the age that women get into “settle down” mode varies greatly depending on location.

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  93. I wonder if the modern whore’s insatiable appetite for assholes is a more contemporary phenomenon than we think.

    Suppose in times past, like sugars and salts in one’s diet, asshole game was a rare treat for women – but nothing they held out for exclusively.

    People were likely thankful for the food or mate that was available in an environment of relative scarcity in multiple ways.

    Thanks to modern society, we’ve had an overabundance of refined sugar and salt for some time now that the majority is getting fucking fat on. Now, noone will eat a meal if it’s not ‘delicious.’ Now, no whore will hook up unless he’s an asshole.

    Perhaps this is why asshole game isn’t intuitive to most men. Because it’s what women ‘want’, you’d think it’d be as natural a response to a good looking women as the hard-on is.

    Maybe it’s nature’s way of saying you don’t instinctively know to do this because it’s not good for you … even though these days those behaviors do benefit us, but our bodies and minds haven’t instinctively caught up to this fact any more efficiently than they process all this goddamn sugar and salt.

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  94. Hey, I got a chateau beatdown! I feel so proud.

    [Editor: The whippings will continue until morale improves.]

    …No, I’m really not wet for him, random commenter dude. I prefer my high-status men artistic, witty, pretty and/or in suits.

    I don’t disagree with you, chateau, about his badboy game and his charisma being partially responsible; I just think that you rather understated his physical attractiveness. And also you agree with me about feminism! Feminists say, “this plays on certain common mental traits… and IT’S WRONG”; you say, “this plays on certain common mental traits… let me exploit it.”

    I do disagree about her value being her looks. I mean, think about it. Sure, you’d get to fuck her, and that’s good. But you’d have to spend time with her. HOURS. You’d have to listen to her talk. It would be like Chinese water torture for the mind.

    Why would you bother when there are equally attractive women who aren’t complete morons? And asshole game wouldn’t work nearly as well on them.

    An 8? Rachel? Really? Man, you like Zooey Deschanel, I thought you had more taste than that.

    [She’s pretty darn cute, even if stupid, skanky and duckbilled. An 8. Zooey is also an 8.]

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  95. It took years before it sunk in but, i finally got it:
    Some women just want to be with stanley kowalski.

    You don’t have to look like brando to be stanley, and you don’t have to be as rough around the edges.

    The (apologists) manginas and feminists, say that women who couple with stanley, are innocent helpless victims. They say these Women: “are not at fault, they have no recourse and they were tricked into liking (loving) stanley”

    got it.

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  96. on July 29, 2010 at 3:58 pm Gunslingergregi

    ””””Dave
    A good woman wants to be used and put to work by a superior male – not worshipped.”””

    Nice you got it.
    That is fuckin it.
    That is why it is worthy for them to put mad work into the right guy.
    Why when the guy has a dream they are even more worthy feeling putting their little hearts and souls into him.
    Interesting. Makes sense. Needs a post.

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  97. When do you go into full on asshole game? I have it down, and find it easy, once I have had sex with a girl a couple times and know she is really attracted to me.

    How do you use asshole game right when you approach a chick? For me, being to aloof has not allowed me to push the interaction forward. Do you use different lines, talking up a dark side, or jealousy?

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  98. Where’s Sniper’s dumbass? I would’ve bet my left arm she’d have said something retarded about this story by now…

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  99. Bring the movies!

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  100. on July 29, 2010 at 4:10 pm Miley_Cyrax

    @ dragnet
    The markets can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent.

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  101. on July 29, 2010 at 4:14 pm greatbooksformen

    lzozlzozzlzozlzozlzolzlzozlz

    on case you haven’t noticed z.z……z.z..z.z.z.zz

    teh advancement of western civilization

    and

    freedom technology liberty

    deb[pended on

    restraining women form tehir natural tendencies of

    1) fucking douchebags
    2) funding secrteive tapers of butthexwithout the girlths conthnet
    2) fucking ass cockers
    3) killing their own unborn 50,000,00 unborn murdered since roe vs. wade lzozlzozzzolo
    4) fighting over douchebags
    5) preferring primitive thuggery ver exalted ideals and turth and beuaty
    6) repeating the lies of douchebags in the pages of the noecns weekly standadrth douchebags sho assock girls and tape it without their conthent
    7) placeing gina tingle over love honor fmaily children love father honore
    8) hating tehir fathers and fucking andsucking asshole asscockers who tape it secretly zlzozlozzloz
    9) preferring fiat dollars and material welath and debt over god family children–when women wnet into teh workplace teh debt exploded as that is what women create while teh family decilned was detsoryed sas they went into the academy as fmaily is what women destory as all tehy need is one big fat fiat funded cock that has been in lotsa anuthes and that is the cok women naturlaly worship zlozlzozlzlz

    because the enocns profit of of debstanilization debuachery deconstrucion and war inside the beltway, they funded feminism zlzozlozzlzlzo

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  102. on July 29, 2010 at 4:15 pm Stud Dynamite

    also, regarding some comments, yes it’s gold and all true as far as game observations go and definitely should be taken into account. And I’d be the last to shame current situation and praise boring provider betas and “old values”. But the worship of this rat along with Zuck hate is pathetic. Life’s not all about pussy, guys, srsly.

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  103. on July 29, 2010 at 4:18 pm Gunslingergregi

    I don’t know yea you can see a thug but you don’t know what he is treating his woman like in private.
    Unless he tells you.
    So yea he prob makes her feel like gold and lays the dick down well. Teases her makes her laugh. Whatever.

    Yea shit wife came in before with langerai on and I was like you want to fuck don’t you.
    So snatched her ass up and she is like yea like 1 2 3 4
    in the cutsey voice
    he he he

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  104. on July 29, 2010 at 4:18 pm greatbooksformen

    ^^^^^^ “Life’s not all about pussy, guys, srsly.”

    nor is it all about assockng and taping it without the girlths conthent and lady gaga and justin beiber and killng the constitution and eradicating teh rule of law, so stud ynamite, why don’t you join us in talking about and funding things other than these, s tehs things are all teh fed dfunds alongside the welath transferring divroce regme and teh dumbing down of the da children desouling defathering of da family funded by da noeonconsons lzozlzoozoz

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  105. Capt. Obvious,

    I live in a medium-sized city in the midwest, although I’ve lived in several areas, rural and urban, in the united states. In my current micro-culture, women are looking to settle down after college, as in IMMEDIATELY after college. Most girls in long term college relationships are angling for an engagement their senior year. When I arrived in town after finishing grad school, I was amazed how my ability to get dates with girls had increased just due to having a good job, nice car, good education. I don’t doubt that game may be more important in other areas, but in my particular area, girls are looking for mates immediately after college. Game is important, but my feeling was that more than anything girls were looking for qualities in a guy that they could brag to their friends about or their parents.

    Based on what I observed during my time living in cities, I think you are correct about women waiting longer to husband hunt. But even if they aren’t looking for a ring immediately, they are still eyeing guys for long-term potential. There’s definitely sluts out there, but they aren’t the majority.

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  106. Blaaaah!!! 5’5″? That is soo wrong! His tiny frame is more delicate than mine!!

    Ewwwwwww!!!!!!

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  107. Of course this takes place in Florida; in fact I knew this story sounded familiar. I used to eat at the dam pollo tropical where this dbag worked. I can say that this story is pretty typical scene down here. Light and dark wannabeebe thug scumbags alike running around with white trash teenage jailbait. Good thing I have money and can live downtown where there is plenty of quality pussy to be had. Oh and I have had a few girls from that same highschool and aloof asshole game is the only way to go. Key is to not let them know where you live.

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  108. on July 29, 2010 at 4:34 pm Gunslingergregi

    ”””””’on July 29, 2010 at 4:15 pm Stud Dynamite
    also, regarding some comments, yes it’s gold and all true as far as game observations go and definitely should be taken into account. And I’d be the last to shame current situation and praise boring provider betas and “old values”. But the worship of this rat along with Zuck hate is pathetic. Life’s not all about pussy, guys, srsly.
    ”””””
    That is the point. This dude wasn’t only about pussy.
    You betas do all that shit why?
    You could live a normal life without the good job.
    Your doing it because you worship the pussy he he he
    Alphas do shit because they have an internal dream.
    Pussy happens to be a by-product of that dream.
    Woman latch on because they want to be a part of something special.

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  109. Carmo,

    Agree with you that this behavior is probably typical in only a very specific socio-economic strata. The younger the girl, the less defined her class consciousness. Josh would probably be great at sales.

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  110. on July 29, 2010 at 4:38 pm Stud Dynamite

    sidewinder, wake up dude. Women are not pretty delicate flowers, well, not only that. They want to fuck, just as they also pee, poop and fart. And as you wouldn’t pass up on asscocking quality pussy you’re not planning to marry, so they wouldn’t pass up on getting asscocked (thx GBFM!). If they frame you as a boyfriend, that means just that – you don’t have game, you’re not viewed sexual. Girls do fuck, ya know.

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  111. Game in Bk it is ironic that feminuts and manginas say that wimmen were tricked into a relationship. Implies they are weak and easily manipulated.

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  112. on July 29, 2010 at 4:45 pm Anonymouses Anonymous

    arl
    “So what is a fat, balding paunchy white father going to do to ritualistically humiliate a black teenage street punk? In any physical confrontation it is dad who will be humiliated, not the young punk. (“I threw a right cross and knocked his old ass out…”)”

    Most of us fat, balding pauchy white guys have guns. Any threat from little pissant playa would require retaliation.

    Any man who isn’t willing to sacrifice his freedom to protect his family, isn’t worthy of having a family. A few years in prison will be worth not having to bury your daughter, or even to visit her in the trailer park.

    My first shot would be to the groin so he cannot contaminate the gene pool any further.

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  113. Stud Dynamite, I don’t think I’ve ever said anything contrary to your points. I do think you are blending male/female sexual outlooks however. They are not the same. Both male and female want to hook up, but for different reasons and for different goals. Being framed as a potential boyfriend is not a problem. Being framed as “the socially acceptable beta that my parents probably want me to marry” is a problem. I don’t doubt that game alone can be sufficient status in certain circles. In very low socio-economic circles, that’s probably all the status a guy can get anyway, so it goes a long way. However in my particular demographic, upper middle-class midwestern college-educated early to mid 20s, status is the key.

    That being said, there are definitely certain game pre-requisites, and they are almost all non-verbal. A guy with high status can definitely f it up in the midwest.

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  114. on July 29, 2010 at 4:50 pm greatbooksformen

    “Sidewinder

    Carmo,

    Agree with you that this behavior is probably typical in only a very specific socio-economic strata. The younger the girl, the less defined her class consciousness. Josh would probably be great at sales.”

    lzozllzolzozozoz

    wake teh FUCK up sidewinder stupid stooopid blind and dumb sidewiender lzozlzl

    sidewinder do you think that it is lower socioenomic class priscilla painton at sodom and schuster and neocn chalrotte allen are lower socieonomic class? lzozlozllzzl

    they hav e lotsa bernake cas and wire hundreds of thousands of bernake fiat dolalrs to asecrteiev taper of butthex iwthout the girlths conthent lzozlzolzozo and repeat his lies dutifiullly in the [ages of the very well spelled neocons upper class weekly standadth which is dripping wih fiat dollarz lsoslzozllzolzlz

    so you see sidewinder, it is women in gernal and maybe especially power ful womenz with lotsa fiat cbernakechas who love

    secrteiv tapers of assocking sessions who tape teh asocking without ther girlths conthent or wknoweldeg who powerful women fund lzozlz

    this is why the fed funded teh feminsit movement as womenz do satan’s work ahiwl claiming it is all for da chirlden and art and liteure, whiel relaly it is all for da butthex and sectrie tapings of butthex iwthout tehir gitlrths contehnt by short douchebags who lie about their hieght inspiring repsect and admiration in teh womenz soul and gina tingles beuacuse a womenz’ soul is her gnina tingle lzozlzozol

    that is why the ceratoo of culture is left up to en osocrtaes homer jefefrsone sheakepseare and teh fed knows this so to kill freedom it funds owmenz to debauch deocnstruct and etsory zlzozozozl and employ and fund oudhcebaggry secrtiev tpaiings fo butthex iwthout tehir gilrthsi ncoenthstenet lzozlo

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  115. on July 29, 2010 at 4:50 pm The Specimen

    The point here is that while it’s all well and good to be able to write an insightful and illuminating treatise on how dystopian fiction subversively affects social discourse, it’s not going to score you any hot chicks. Take it as a lesson that swag is of the essence. Adapt and adopt an edge or buy a gallon of vaseline from costco and start working out your forearm kid. Don’t hate the player, hate the game.

    @Tarl
    Dude, are you really that scared of young black men? Fighting a 150 lb black kid is just like fighting a 150 lb white kid. Most kids 16-23 think that they’re the baddest men on the planet, thug or no. The truth is that close to half of these wannabe gangsters, and close to 95% of the pretty boy ones, put on a fake tough guy persona so the real bas asses won’t pick on them. Pops would have wiped the floor with this little shrimp of a man had it come down to it.

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  116. sdaedalus–

    Funnily enough, it would have made more sense if the killing were the other way round, or am I missing something.

    Yeah you’re missing a lot.

    At the time of the killing Sarah was his “official” girfriend but his ex Rachael was successfully poaching.

    Sarah felt she couldn’t really compete w/Rachael if R really wanted junior Dominican thug boy, since she knew Rachael was a lot hotter and no doubt had a lot more hot guys after her. Rachael has that cocky look too.

    Sarah was probably a lot more his doormat, willing to do anything for him, than Rachael was. He liked that about Sarah as his main squeeze but also played on the side some too, with more than just Rachael, but Rachael was the affair on the side.

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  117. I disagree; a female’s personality has a significant impact on her attractiveness (even more so when considering a LTR)

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  118. on July 29, 2010 at 4:56 pm Stud Dynamite

    Sidewinder – I picked up on “of course there are sluts…” They all are sluts in the same sense as all men are dogs. Woof.
    While you worry about socio-economic circles they get asscocked by the local bad boy at Chick-Fil-A. And by all means, like I said myself, life’s not all about pussy and by no means it’s worth it to turn into a douche like that. But what is so perfect about this story – it shows perfectly, above a certain being fuckable threshold, you don’t need job, height, anything, just balls and game. And still guys find excuses, “black dudes have it easier looking like bad boyz…” lollz.

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  119. @Doug
    That’s interesting, then, that even though Rachael was hotter, on your analysis she was the one who felt threatened. That’s what I couldn’t quite work out.

    I had the impression that he had dumped Sarah for Rachael, who was cuter, and Sarah was still hanging round, I could have understood verbal aggression from Rachel in that situation but not violence, I would have expected the violence to come from Sarah.

    I see though that the defence are arguing that Sarah was the person who threatened, and Rachel just acted in self-defence. I also see that Rachel has been given a more subdued look for the court appearances.

    Out of interest, what are your views on the whole Amanda Knox thing, which also involved two very attractive girls. Apologies if it has been already discussed on this thread.

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  120. The “bad boy” approach doesn’t work if half assed.
    Check out this dork who got caught after bragging to a woman who turned him into the cops. His lame tattoos don’t cover for the glasses, hair or expression.
    http://www.kdvr.com/news/kdvr-sheepskin-factory-fire-arrest-txt,0,3699279.story

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  121. sorry, already discussed on another thread.

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  122. Much of the misdirected ire at the rapscallion Camancho is part and parcel of the blame-shift rationalization of women at large.

    It often comes up in arguments with women when they use the formulation “you make me so…”

    Rationalizing that they’re not responsible for their feelings (and by extension, actions), because they have no control over them, the frontal lobes just write blank checks for the hindbrain. Thus any action — whoring, snooping, murder –based on their feelings — tingles, jealousy, rage — are in their minds at least somewhat justifiable if not totally justified.

    Its this unstable facet of female psychology which game exquisitely targets and exploits to great effect.

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  123. @Anonymous
    I disagree; a female’s personality has a significant impact on her attractiveness (even more so when considering a LTR)

    I think the starting point is looks, a bad personality is a negative that may make a woman unattractive even if initially physically attractive, but the reverse doesn’t apply.

    At the very least, most people would accept that there is a minimum threshold – in fact I think that’s what William was talking about in his initial comment with the pitbull reference.

    A lot of guys will pretend looks don’t matter. This is actually far more cruel than being honest, because a girl may then worry about having a bad personality even when she hasn’t.

    I’m not a fan of blatant & excessive honesty “you are ugly” to an ugly woman insults the woman’s intelligence as well as her looks, most women have a fair idea of how attractive they are even though they may put up a front to the contrary (I’ve given some reasons why they do so on a previous thread).

    But I’m not a fan either of saying it’s all about personality when it blatantly isn’t (I appreciate that’s not what you’re saying, this is just a general rant, I have seen so many women’s heads wrecked by this).

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  124. on July 29, 2010 at 5:05 pm greatbooksformen

    loozlzozzlzolzo

    when chicks like sidewinder say “socioeconomic” i always get a picture in my head of her

    studying her socionomic fed dfunded textbook in her leftist fed funded class bought and paid for by buillions while some douchebag assocks her form behind taping it in secrete knwoing that it is theu r surectst way to get woemnz w to wire him hundreds and thousands of fiat bernake dollarzs and also to rpeat his lies aout his height in bill chrystals magazines nlzozlzozozozozlzoz

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  125. sdaedalus–

    I’m not sure whether this is lack of options, lack of knowledge of options, loyalty where a woman changes in the course of the relationship or if for these guys there really is something more than just looks that attracts.

    Who guys most want to bang is the hottest girl possible. There’s not complete agreement on what’s hottest and it is somewhat culturally shaped around the edges. As well major geographic races may ten to be attracted to their own broad race more, though often enough something a bit different within it.

    Hottest means looks most of all for guys, but it also includes an element of sexiness, particularly for guys who are themselves good in bed. Sexiness is not the same as sluttiness though slutty advertising does work well with some guys, esp. higher betas on down. Sexiness is a sense of the girl’s animal passions ready, willing and able to be unleashed by the right kind of man, her raw, well, heat.

    However for LTRs guys think and feel about looks more in terms of a threshold. Sexual heat, at least for guys with high sex drives, may be even more important than in a fling. But compatibility, a good match on smarts (better if he’s a little smarter overall), enough overlapping interests or her willingness to adopt some of yours, loyalty, being a good and helpful partner and so on matter too.

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  126. @Patrick
    Its this unstable facet of female psychology which game exquisitely targets and exploits to great effect.

    I agree with this, and for the life of me I can’t understand why so many women have a moral problem with Game. It’s not like it is a secret underworld system, anyone can find out about how it works on the internet or in books, Gamers are very forthcoming, possibly even too forthcoming, about their methods.

    And once you know how it works, it’s relatively easy to control one’s reactions to it (I was lucky enough to be friends with someone who had very good natural Game from a young age so saw it in operation that way).

    I appreciate it may be difficult to keep a cool head with really expert Gamers but most men will never bother getting up to that level.

    Women complain that Game reduces them to unreasoning animals but what they don’t realise is that they themselves are entirely compliant in this.

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  127. btw I suppose it would be a bit much to ask if any of you would care to identify an unstable facet of male psychology that could be exquisitely targeted and exploited to equivalent effect (obviously assuming one could pass the pitbull test)

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  128. Sdaedalus,

    I stand corrected on the maths.

    You make a good point about “personality”. I know a few women who are charming and funny, but sadly, they do not have the looks that they deserve, and as a result, their prospects are limited.

    Personality alone cannot make a woman attractive, but the lack of it can make a beautiful woman very, very unappealing, at least on a long term basis.

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  129. Look, Comancho played up bad boy BS using his race as congruency. But really, is Comancho more desirable to girls than a stud high school QB or musician? That is, guys with what we normally consider preselection and status?

    Or is this murder more akin to a bunch of dorky goths getting themselves killed in a murder suicide over a broken heart? That is, were these girls part of a pathetic subculture with its own rules and drama that “normal” people find mysterious and weird?

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  130. I was probably most attracted to the bad boy type when I was younger, their appeal decreased as I got older.

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  131. Doug

    The threshold thing for an LTR is all very well and good, but imo if a guy with any options at all is to sustain a monogamous relationship the threshold has to be not just passed, but well exceeded, in fact, I would say that the degree to which the threshold should be exceeded probably depends on the number of options available to the man, not just now, but the likely no. of options available in the future.

    A very considerable portion of men are much more attractive in their thirties than in their twenties (both physically & generally) and have options open to them at that stage that would not have been available earlier.

    The alternative I suppose is accepting that monogamy is not possible, which you have already discussed on other threads, that is all very well and good if the guy can keep other relationships under control but this is far easier said than done, a lot of men can’t handle this at all and get emotional & physical involvement very messed up or are putty in the hands of unscrupulous women.

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  132. Deep within almost every girl – regardless of how pure and innocent she may act – is on some level, a desire to raise the middle finger to Dear Ol’ Dad.

    Keep that in mind, and much of what you thought were personal liabilities can be turned into assets.

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  133. I just feel (and despite what you may think I am not necessarily talking about myself here) that a lot of guys go into LTRs with the view, well, she’s attractive enough, and she’s a lovely person, she would make a good wife, and then can’t sustain the LTR down the line because there are too many other more attractive women out there.

    By the way this applies equally to women too. I really feel that there has to be quite a strong physical attraction in order for a monogamous relationship to have a good chance of lasting, it’s not sufficient in itself but it is neccessary. If the parties are of strong character the relationship may remain monogamous, but there will always be resentment about opportunities missed & this can be just as damaging.

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  134. sdaedalus–

    Oh wait, I got it wrong in my skimming who the killer was. It was the prettier Rachael.

    So right, I’m with you. It would have made more sense if the killing was the other way round going by the basic facts of the relationship at the time and who was hotter.

    Well, Rachael was probably more emotionally volatile. She’d dropped out of HS too not going to her last year there, I think i read in my skimming.

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  135. on July 29, 2010 at 5:24 pm greatbooksformen

    “Laura

    I was probably most attracted to the bad boy type when I was younger, their appeal decreased as I got older.”

    yah when you anuth was all sore and gina all strteched lozzozozolzozzo you said to thebeta herb “ok i have had my fun with lotsa cocka and i am now ready to marry you and have you pay for my gina whihc i gave away in its prime for free when it was younger hotte rtighter lzozlzozozlz”

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  136. >Laura

    >I was probably most attracted to the bad boy type when I was younger, their appeal decreased as I got older.

    We know the reasons why that happened as you got older Laura. It’s because your pussy dried up.

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  137. A few things.

    I don’t know how the comparison with Mark Zuckerberg works because Zuckerberg probably comes from a family where bringing home an obvious slut will be met with disapproval from the folks. Sure, he could have lots of girls, and even a hotter one, but the fact is there will always be a hotter one. If she gives him the amount of sex he needs, then he has all he needs, really. As long as she doesn’t get fat. If she deprives him of sex, then he has all rights to get rid of her.

    Another thing about Zuckerberg. He’s probably already thinking about philanthropic charitable donations for the sake of posterity. He and Camacho aren’t even in the same game, at all. I think the key is hedonism. Yes, he could be globe-trotting and nailing the best poon out there. It’s his morally upright upbringing which precludes him from doing so.

    I think the reason why he gives Rachel an 8 is not because of her pathetic Paris Hilton snarl. It’s because her tight little body can probably be bent into all different kinds of forms for a good healthy roguring.

    Lastly I thought this post is an excellent guide for young men, men in their 20’s in particular. I wish I had this info when I was 25. Pay attention young men: what you read here is the truth.

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  138. This case is beautiful! Thanks so much for finding it and bringing it to my attention.

    You have to look at the animal kingdom (or blacks) to find such a clear example of intra-female competition.

    Of course, females fight for keeps. And they are sneaky and vicious about it.

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  139. Stanley Kowalski – the original alpha.

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  140. Patrick–

    Rationalizing that they’re not responsible for their feelings (and by extension, actions), because they have no control over them, the frontal lobes just write blank checks for the hindbrain. Thus any action — whoring, snooping, murder –based on their feelings — tingles, jealousy, rage — are in their minds at least somewhat justifiable if not totally justified.

    Part of that is biology, though on a bell curve like almost everything biologically based, and part of that is Anglosphere culture. Before feminism there was chivalry, which later is quite different and far more male self sacrificing and blame taking than the Latin, machismo variety.

    Our feminist culture tells women at every turn it’s men’s fault. If a woman cheats, it’s probably at least half the man’s fault. If a man cheats, it’s entirely the man’s fault. It’s not that black and white but it tends that way.

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  141. The great irony here of course is that nothing Comacho did was based on game.

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  142. @Cap’n Bob

    I stand corrected on the maths.

    That’s okay, I made the same error myself first.

    You make a good point about “personality”. I know a few women who are charming and funny, but sadly, they do not have the looks that they deserve, and as a result, their prospects are limited.

    That’s it exactly. In most cases, there are changes these women can make to their appearance that don’t for instance involve radical & dangerous cosmetic surgery – losing weight is the most common one, in the past moustache removal was another one, this is normally now done as a matter of course by most women unfortunate enough to have a Hitler, so doesn’t arise as much.

    There are a lot of women out there who would be absolutely lovely if they lost weight & outdo most of us skinnier women but they have parents and friends who insist on telling them they are lovely as they are, even though their weight is severely limiting their choice, they may well find the perfect man anyway (hell, I’m a romantic at heart, I like to believe there’s someone for everyone) but their chances of doing so are significantly reduced.

    Personality alone cannot make a woman attractive, but the lack of it can make a beautiful woman very, very unappealing, at least on a long term basis.

    Yes, I agree with this. The same, by the way, applies to aa lot of very attractive men, their charms (even with a liberal and continuing application of Game) fade on a long-term basis unless there is something more behind it in terms of character.

    However a lot of men are so pleased to get a beautiful woman they rush to commit & don’t consider her personality until it is too late. I have seen some guys very badly damaged by this.

    The danger is less in the case of the male version as they tend to avoid committment, often this is a blessing to the women they are involved with even though they tend not to realise it.

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  143. I don’t think anyone misuses the word love more than CR.

    [Editor: I’ve been informed you may be the original sara. Is this true?]

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  144. Xontrarian-

    Nah, just watch MTV.

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  145. Marlon Brando was hot.

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  146. Girls are way better at game than guys. At least way better than me. Let me use this pathetic interaction of mine today as a perfect example. I mentioned the end of it in an earlier comment, but here’s the entire exchange.

    The girl in question is in her early 20s, no college, works retail. She is a legitimate 8. I come in the store in suit (as usual) and tie, and have received IOIs from this girl in the past so am fairly confident around her. Note how easily she counters my escalation and makes me look like a child.

    Me: Hey, I need a t-shirt. do you sell men’s t-shirts here?

    Her: [smile] no, we don’t. we should [slightly nervous]

    Me: Yours would work. How much? $10?

    Her: I think its worth a lot more than that. [sly smile, not nervous in the slightest]

    Me: uh… [thumb up own ass]

    [pause]

    Me: what do you do on the weekends?

    Her: I usually go up to the lake.

    Me: Are you going up to the lake this weekend?

    Her: No, i’m going to the city. I have some business to take care of in the city.

    Me: [pause] Ok then. Have a good one [with smirk on face recognizing the total failure]

    The only thing that mitigates this disaster is that I did maintain good non-verbal, and I wasn’t nervous. I can think of all kinds of things I should have said, but in the moment they just didn’t come to me. Anybody have a simple rule that I can remember during face-to-face interactions to deal with unexpected responses?

    It is amazing to me how she escalated the interaction with complete ease however. She was caught a little off guard by my direct opener, yet when I went in with what I thought was a kill shot, she seriously f’d me up without effort. Girls are way better at this than guys.

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  147. on July 29, 2010 at 5:31 pm psycho
    The great irony here of course is that nothing Comacho did was based on game.

    duh game is about learning to EMULATE NATURALS

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  148. Sdaedalus – “However a lot of men are so pleased to get a beautiful woman they rush to commit & don’t consider her personality until it is too late. I have seen some guys very badly damaged by this. ”

    That’s why always following game is of key importance. There are too many examples of men who’ve used game to get 7s, 8s or 9s, then immediately abandoning their hard-won skills. Sometimes, these women turn out to be rather unpleasant, but the born-again betas are so hell-bent on keeping their ladies, that they wind up marrying them.

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  149. sdaedalus,

    I don’t think the scenario you describe above re husband’s dissatisfaction with wife is limited to situations where husband is surrounded by hotter women. “Other” women are attractive to husbands. Even ones not objectively hotter than the wife. I’m not going to trade the wife in on these other women, but I still want to do them on a purely honest level. Even when married to an 8, i’d love to spend the day banging 6’s and 7’s. In fact, my current “one-itis” affliction is with a girl a solid point below my wife in looks, but with whom I share a number of things in common.

    No woman is safe. Not even a 10. Show me a 10 and I’ll show you a guy who’s tired of banging her. I think I’ve heard that before.

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  150. LAURA

    Your story presents us with a cruel dilemma. We have to choose between being attractive to young hotties or to old mom-types.
    And you did not even bother to say what your “attraction” really meant. Hot monkey sex or after dinner snuggles? I mean, I bet your hind-brain will freeze your fingers into paralysis if you even try to type, “I really like to slurp down the semen of guys who are eager to please.”

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  151. luvsic: “Suppose in times past, like sugars and salts in one’s diet, asshole game was a rare treat for women – but nothing they held out for exclusively. “

    I suspect in times past, “asshole game” consisted in being a man. Feminism is responsible for this; in the past, women had lower status, and so it was easier to submit to “just some poor schmuck.”

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  152. sdaedalus–

    A very considerable portion of men are much more attractive in their thirties than in their twenties (both physically & generally) and have options open to them at that stage that would not have been available earlier.

    True. I personally think that pretty girls tend to be prettiest at around 25 and that guys tend to be most appealing to girls at around 35.

    There’s a host of reasons why girls should stop listening to feminist media messages and go with guys 5-15 years older than them, usually. For a mid thirties girl that’s generally going to be a divorced guy. Or a player settling down finally perhaps, but then I think she’s gonna have to let him play some, explicitly or implicitly. With explicitly being better for her. It seems to me that if a girl wants to land a permanent mate above her own level of hotness, in the different way male and female hotness is actually judged (male “conventionally handsome” looks not being that important), that that is a long term workable trade.

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  153. Dana,

    The whole “natural game” vs “game” debate is probably one for another day, but a few points.

    No doubt, Camacho is an example of a natural. Folks as lucky as him, from their earliest experiences, have understood women inherently.

    Most of us were not as lucky. To use an educational example, most people learn to read growing up, but some don’t and wind up illiterate. We are or were illiterate, when it comes to winning the hearts of women. To learn to “read” as it were, we need special methods. We cannot merely copy those who can do it.

    The beauty of Roosh, or CH writings, or the Mystery method is that they break down and explain the process of courtship in a clear, logical way.

    Whereas, Tyler D, and the whole RSD/Natural game thing, while very useful for advanced practitioners of game, cannot really help the humble novice.

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  154. That’s why always following game is of key importance. There are too many examples of men who’ve used game to get 7s, 8s or 9s, then immediately abandoning their hard-won skills.

    Beauty plus Game is not necessarily enough, you have to choose wisely as well for LTRs, certainly for marriage.

    I know it is possible to get a beautiful woman with an unattractive personality using game, and to keep her using game, but (without being crude) it seems an awful lot of effort to expend the rest of one’s life gaming a bitch, particularly one whose beauty is subject to natural depreciation.

    Always following game may well be of key importance in winning and keeping the prize, but one also has to consider whether or not the prize is actually worth it, what on earth is the point in keeping someone chosen solely on the basis of beauty, whose beauty is fading, and whom you don’t even like.

    I would think a woman with a bad personality (and by bad, I mean nasty, not just a bit hysterical, there are some really nice women who tend to go a bit hyper from time to time) might well be find for a STR, maybe even a LTR but I would advise against marrying them or having kids with them.

    I find it very funny when women say men like a challenge because in most cases they don’t – but some men like the idea of controlling a beautiful but bitchy woman with Game & get burnt this way – although they may be able to control her, they often end up fed up with this after a while.

    I would give exactly the same advice to someone who was thinking of marrying a very attractive man who was not a decent person, even if you could manage to hang on to them, they might not really be much to hang on to (although attractiveness in men does last longer than beauty in women, so maybe they would be a better long-term investment, however hanging on to them would be pretty difficult).

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  155. Sidewinder–

    I don’t think the scenario you describe above re husband’s dissatisfaction with wife is limited to situations where husband is surrounded by hotter women. “Other” women are attractive to husbands. Even ones not objectively hotter than the wife. I’m not going to trade the wife in on these other women, but I still want to do them on a purely honest level. Even when married to an 8, i’d love to spend the day banging 6′s and 7′s. In fact, my current “one-itis” affliction is with a girl a solid point below my wife in looks, but with whom I share a number of things in common.

    Absolutely and widely true. Men, or at least men with strong sex drives, are definitely polygamous by natural desire. We may not be during the first few months of falling deeply in love, but after that even when we remain in love, yeah.

    Girls are probably naturally serially monogamous. The sluttier they’ve been the more that’s true I think generally speaking.

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  156. “The great irony here of course is that nothing Comacho did was based on game.”

    everything that works is Game.

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  157. “Extremely well muscled”.

    Lmfao!

    Someone needs to post this on bodybuilding.com’s misc section.

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  158. on July 29, 2010 at 5:59 pm greatbooksformen

    hey fucktard doug do you ever or think of what you are saying?

    fucktard doug1 wirtes zlozzlzoloo “Girls are probably naturally serially monogamous. The sluttier they’ve been the more that’s true I think generally speaking.”

    so the more people gurls fuck teh more they are monogomaus lzozlzlz

    doug should be a chick because he thinks and reasons just liek one no need for a cock lzozlzoz

    doug sell yur cok on ebay and with the money buy some lacey panties lzozlozlzlzlzlzozo

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  159. SD,

    Alas, male psychology is too stable for the type of exploitation you contemplate, except for insecure males you wouldn’t want anyway.

    If there is a man whom you need to shake up somehow because otherwise he would not consider you at all (the equivalent situation to what men usually develop game for) you are much more likely to get his attention by sticking your breasts in his face (which can be done deniably by stumbling slightly while walking by when he is seated) or (if you were, hypothetically, not SD but someone less demure) by grabbing his butt.

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  160. @Anonymouses Anonymous

    “Most of us fat, balding pauchy white guys have guns. Any threat from little pissant playa would require retaliation.
    Any man who isn’t willing to sacrifice his freedom to protect his family, isn’t worthy of having a family. A few years in prison will be worth not having to bury your daughter, or even to visit her in the trailer park.My first shot would be to the groin so he cannot contaminate the gene pool any further.”

    Daddy, have you come back from the dead? Oh wait, you had a full head of hair. Nevermind.

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  161. “But the worship of this rat along with Zuck hate is pathetic. Life’s not all about pussy, guys, srsly.”

    true. it’s also about Zuck hate.

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  162. @Patrick

    “It often comes up in arguments with women when they use the formulation “you make me so…”

    Really? Then you haven’t heard the Mel Gibson tapes. He constantly accuses Oksana of “making him so…”

    Adults, male or female, control themselves.

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  163. @Sidewinder
    “Other” women are attractive to husbands. Even ones not objectively hotter than the wife. I’m not going to trade the wife in on these other women, but I still want to do them on a purely honest level. Even when married to an 8, i’d love to spend the day banging 6′s and 7′s.”

    That isn’t in any way surprising because it’s well-known that novelty in relation to women is a turn-on to you naturally polygamous men. I’d say that for all but the most fastidious aesthetes out there novelty in a woman raises her one point higher on the boner scale than she is strictly entitled to based on the aesthetic beauty scale.

    But what’s significant about your comment is that you specifically say you’re not going to trade your wife in for these women, you know you’ve got a better deal & that you would get sick of these women sooner b/c their artificial inflation is based on novelty & will fade. If on the other hand you rated your wife lower, say a 6 rather than an 8, then you’d find it much harder to resist, even if you managed it you would feel resentful.

    I genuinely feel that there is a slight but perceptible variation in the beauty scale between men, one man’s 6 is another man’s 7.5 for instance, and a woman is better off with a man who because of his particular individual quirks & preferences finds her more attractive generally than she is strictly entitled to on an average basis, certainly she should avoid a man who finds her the reverse.

    There would be no point for instance my getting together with someone who likes voluptuous women with manes of curly hair & black eyes & a defined jaw (some men really do like a pronounced jaw), I would be much better off with someone who preferred pale-skinned straight haired petite women with a softer jawline, no matter how well we might get on on other levels.

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  164. Those poor young women. Society has so thoroughly inundated them with the message that they are worthless, they felt compelled to throw themselves at this guy this way for validation. If we could only work harder to empower young women and give them self esteem, they wouldn’t behave this way.

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  165. @Polymath
    Alas, male psychology is too stable for the type of exploitation you contemplate, except for insecure males you wouldn’t want anyway.

    I am teasing. You guys would never give away trade secrets like that to a woman anyway.

    I wasn’t actually thinking of initial attraction (women can be up for sexual harassment now for grabbing a guy’s butt or sticking their breasts in his face without encouragement, you know, I do worry about these things), which I really think one can’t do too much about other than look one’s best, but rather in terms of maintaining attraction where there is an initial spark.

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  166. Sidewinder:

    Girls are way better at this than guys.

    Yeah because she’s an 8, and doesn’t have to actually do anything but sit there and be an 8. There’s no pressure on her. It didn’t matter what words came out of her pretty mouth, you would have thought it genius regardless.

    It is true though, pretty girls are good at flirting and the back and forth. Must be that verbal/language advantage they have.

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  167. on July 29, 2010 at 6:14 pm Charlesz Martel

    Love your blog. I’ve thought like you for over 30 years, but never wrote about it or analyzed nit to the nth degree like you do.

    I salute you.

    “Love is the illusion that women differ.” H. L. Mencken. The classic answer to those who think game doesn’t work on well-bred women.

    I’m in the nightclub world, have been for years. I see this every night.

    Two questions: Could you organize your maxims in a complete list, and

    There are many times your links to your own blog don’t work correctly. Even on recent posts!

    Also, could you post a complete blog archive (rar or zip) so I could download the whole thing and read it all? Your hyperlinks not always working make it difficult.

    Keep up the good work- so to speak!

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  168. So what is a fat, balding paunchy white father going to do to ritualistically humiliate a black teenage street punk? In any physical confrontation it is dad who will be humiliated, not the young punk. (“I threw a right cross and knocked his old ass out…”)

    My friend dated a girl from South Africa during his late teens. One day early in their relationship her father took him aside, showed him a bullet and said something along the lines of, “Look at this! It is a clean bullet right now. But if something should happen to my daughter I will write your name on this bullet and I will find you. I don’t care about the law when it comes to my daughter. Have a good night.” All said with a SA accent of course.

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  169. you know,

    niggers aren’t bullet proof

    just sayin’

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  170. @Laura

    “I was probably most attracted to the bad boy type when I was younger, their appeal decreased as I got older

    That’s an indication of growth and sanity.

    I never would have have found this Camacho guy attractive. His looks scream low IQ and, consequently, low genetic fitness to me. The body language, “hairdo” and tattoo are repulsive.

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  171. You could always add something like, “…and I will find you and then this bullet won’t be clean anymore.” The girl’s dad might have added something like that, but I don’t remember the exact words from my friend.

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  172. sdaedalus–

    btw I suppose it would be a bit much to ask if any of you would care to identify an unstable facet of male psychology that could be exquisitely targeted and exploited to equivalent effect (obviously assuming one could pass the pitbull test)

    Happy to darlin’.

    It’s not exactly targeting an “unstable facet” but I thought that description of what game targets was a bit off anyway.

    Project or hint at sexiness. Not sluttiness, which is the fast food of sexiness, but rather deep animal passions within. A real desire to be taken, and retaken. Beneath a shy exterior when a man is interesting to you, passions roil.

    Sort of like game makes any guy seems and be more alpha, a sense of passions within can make cute and pretty girls look and feel a lot prettier to a lot of guys. Or at least to guys who guys who want to really possess a woman, and not just have a pretty partner to walk around.

    This can also be in part an assist in your own selection process. The kinds of guys it will scare off would probably turn into duds in bed after awhile (if not right from the beginning) anyway.

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  173. American women are a lost cause.

    These women both reaped what they sowed.

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  174. @Xontrarian

    “This case is beautiful! Thanks so much for finding it and bringing it to my attention.”

    Today, millions of women, told a douche like Camacho to buzz off. It wasn’t newsworthy; it didn’t make the papers. And if it had made the papers, it wouldn’t have been highlighted here as it wouldn’t confirm the worldview of this blog.

    “Of course, females fight for keeps. And they are sneaky and vicious about it.”

    Because the papers aren’t filled with stories of men killing other men over women??

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  175. “My friend dated a girl from South Africa during his late teens. One day early in their relationship her father took him aside, showed him a bullet and said something along the lines of, “Look at this! It is a clean bullet right now. But if something should happen to my daughter I will write your name on this bullet and I will find you. I don’t care about the law when it comes to my daughter. Have a good night.” All said with a SA accent of course.”

    I’m sure it makes the father feel like a bad ass, but it’s not at all clear to me that this wouldn’t scare off more nice guys (who he should want for his daughter) than thugs.

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  176. sdaedalus, try to eventually work in Crying Game if he does something to upset you. I don’t mean loud balling. But cute little wimpers and sniffles, and a little eye watering. Unless he’s a real hard ass many guys are suckers for a girl crying.

    Maybe it’s just me, I don’t know, but my last LTR used to wimper and sniffle and I found it adorable and my love for her increased.

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  177. sdaedalus,

    You raise a number of points but the highlight of your comment was your self-description.

    I definitely do not have a set “type”. My wife is more curvy, brunette, but I’ve been in LTRs with blonds, tall, petite, voluptuous, athletic… I prefer caucasian features, but there are numerous “types” that I would be comfortable marrying.

    And I agree that men do have some variation in rating women, but its surprisingly closer than you would think, and its almost unanimous when it comes to the threshold do-able or not do-able question. I think men are pretty close with 5s through 7, although they diverge somewhat in who gets 8s or 9s, based on personal preferences. For me personally, if the girl is a 7, I’m taking a closer look at personality, intelligence, honesty…all the LTR stuff.

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  178. Based on what I read I do think Josh was largely to blame for this tragedy.

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  179. sdaedalus

    I genuinely feel that there is a slight but perceptible variation in the beauty scale between men, one man’s 6 is another man’s 7.5 for instance, and a woman is better off with a man who because of his particular individual quirks & preferences finds her more attractive generally than she is strictly entitled to on an average basis, certainly she should avoid a man who finds her the reverse.

    Yes absolutely right.

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  180. I’m sure it makes the father feel like a bad ass, but it’s not at all clear to me that this wouldn’t scare off more nice guys (who he should want for his daughter) than thugs.

    True. You could tone it down for more acceptable boyfriends of your daughter, but the message remains the same: I (the father) will hold you accountable for anything bad that happens to my daughter. There will be consequences for your actions.

    I think it would be especially useful during your daughter’s teenage years, as that’s when you have the most control over her and when she is most likely to date thugs/players/etc.

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  181. sdaedalus,

    Tip for working on a guy – girls have an innate ability to be carefree and fun. When girls get too intellectual and wordy about shit, it sucks. But girls are given a lot more societal leeway to be playful, so be playful. I had a girl who thought it was a fun game to try to make me get an erection in a video store. Girls can be silly, are way better at facial gestures and overall cuteness, and they are much smoother with small gestures of physical affection.

    NOTE: These traits can be annoying as hell when laced with desperation or insecurity.

    But you sound like a cute little petite girl, and although a little wordy, you come across overall as having a positive outlook. I imagine it would be fun as hell being fun and stupid with you.

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  182. This is some modern day Bonnie and Clyde shit.

    THUG LIFE

    Romeo and Juliet is for betas.

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  183. “I’m sure it makes the father feel like a bad ass, but it’s not at all clear to me that this wouldn’t scare off more nice guys (who he should want for his daughter) than thugs.”

    raises a question: if women are biologically programmed to try to reproduce with cads in order to increase chance their genes are passed on in subsequent generations, it seems parents would be programmed to desire the same, at least secretly, for their daughters, for the same reason. so perhaps parents have a hindbrain reaction they would never admit openly or even to themselves regarding their daughters fucking thugs/cads.

    this would be a function of the specific social environment also, and parents would naturally place more importance on the provider male for their daughter than the daughter likely does at an early age — but i’m just saying maybe there is such a thing as paternal-minded tingles. illogical?

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  184. You are all so helpful. I am touched that you actually took the trouble to advise me on this, it is really very generous of you.

    @Doug
    I think that is very good advice, I think it probably would scare off some guys but I agree with you that this would actually be a good shit-tests, the guys who would be scared off would not suit anyway. It would have to be subtly done though because men are much more fastidious about women than they let on, you guys idealise women far more than you admit.

    @Sharpcool
    The difficulty with crying game is that it has a shelf life. It can only be used very selectively. If over used, men develop an immunity and think “that’s just her being a woman, she’ll get over it”

    BTW in Ireland “crying game” in a relationship means quite a different thing, see film by Neil Jordan. Clue: it usually involves the disclosure of an unexpected appendage by what had previously appeared to be an attractive female. I’m just not equipped to play this kind of crying game.

    @Sidewinder
    No, I would suspect that despite what you say you do have particular preferences. Not all men’s types are based on coloring, or even figure, it is often a particular set of features, or even one feature, that is a turn-on or a turn off.

    The other thing I would say is that often men can regard someone attractive aesthetically, but are not turned on by them as much as they would be by someone they would regard as slightly less aesthetically attractive.

    Imo the boner scale is linked to the aesthetic beauty scale and in some men, particularly those who are very self-aware (hi Blogmeister!) may well be identical, but I genuinely believe can differ slightly in others (I think both Epoxy and J5/Narciso have recognised this). In other words novelty is not the only factor which can cause a point variation between the two scales, add the two factors together and you can have a variation of as much of two or three points.

    I have a theory that men with slightly different boner and aesthetic beauty scales pick according to their boner scale for STRS (because they don’t have to justify deviations from the aesthetic beauty scale as much here) but according to their aesthetic beauty scale for LTRs and this can create havoc in terms of being attracted to other women.

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  185. on July 29, 2010 at 6:44 pm Default User

    @sdaedalus
    An important feature in LTRs is that the man remains the dominant partner. He does not necessarily need to be a rampaging alpha, but in general, he needs to remain the one in charge. A lot of girl game is finding a man whose leadership she can follow with confidence. Different women will need different levels of dominance and the women needs to find a man who has enough so she is comfortable in a more submissive role to him.

    Keeping that man as leader dynamic is an important part of keeping both parties attracted. Just as a woman does not like a man she can boss about, a man does not like a woman that bosses him. This does not mean that the woman should be a doormat. It means she should find a man who she is happy to let lead. He does not have to lead everything all the time, but in general, she should be comfortable deferring to him. The degree she is uncomfortable with that is the degree she should probably be doubtful about LTR prospects

    The physical attraction is more difficult because we all get older. Time can be harder on some than others and will tend to be harder on women. I believe that a strong enough emotional bond and a wife that supports more than challenges will make it easier for a man to stay faithful.

    @Sidewinder
    Life is not always full of snappy dialogue like some TV sitcom. So, don’t be so hard on yourself. In any case, a fallback option for such I-don’t-have-a-comeback are things such as: Really?, Suuure!, quizzical look, half smile, etc. They are not clever responses but let you move on. Most people are less attuned the small bumps and fizzles in the conversation.

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  186. on July 29, 2010 at 6:45 pm ByronicIronic

    Oh Fuck Off Chateau!

    Teenage pussy on tap or not, I’d much rather be a beta billionaire than this weasel any day.
    Why you ask? Because at least a beta billionaire can “learn game in 1 to 6 months.” Whereas, what chance does this piece of shit have to become a billionaire? ZERO!

    And stop calling Zuckerberg a beta. That’s what he wants you to THINK idiot! When in fact he’s holding Eyes-Wide-Shut style orgies in his sick mansion. And as for that badboy with game? He’s living in a fucking trailer and will probably be dead in a few weeks, killed by some other gangbanger like himself. No one’s going to care.

    Don’t doubt my theory on Zuckerberg. Before the Tiger Woods scandal hit the news, you ALL thought he was beta. You thought he was a grinning, Carlton Banks, pathetic wussy. WRONG! Nigga was running thug game on multiple porn stars!

    Just because he looks like a nerd, talks like a nerd, acts like a nerd, doesn’t mean he’s not getting a flood of pussy juice. Hence my theory on Zuckerberg: Dude is having orgies like the last days of the roman empire.

    My verdict:

    Long on Zuckerberg.
    Short on the Scum bag.

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  187. @Sidewinder

    Playfulness in a woman can be fun but it can be irritating as hell too, a bit like guys over-negging.

    I guess the trick is to be able to read signals & spot when you are irritating people. I suspect this is similar to what you guys do in relation to negs & things like that, reading body language & so forth.

    Also, to be able to spot when a man has other things on his mind requires a surprising amount of skill sometimes, men are not great at sharing their emotions.

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  188. AHE,

    Fathers, not being women, would not share their daughters’ thug-loving tendencies.

    Since most men learn over time just how dangerous and silly the sexual behaviour of young women can be, they wish to protect their daughters from any foolish decisions.

    No man wants his daughter to be knocked up by some deadbeat.

    The old sexual mores and rules of the West were not to uphold some imaginary patriarchy. They were developed to protect society from sexual anarchy, of the kind we are witnessing now, with the broken homes and fatherless families.

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  189. on July 29, 2010 at 6:47 pm greatbooksformen

    “Josh had curly hair, the color of coal, spilling across sculpted shoulders. Black eyes, a long nose, wide lips curled into a sneer. His dark jeans hung low on his slim hips. He stood about 5 feet 5, but walked with the swagger of a bigger man.”

    yah but i bet the weekly standard fed funded reported his height as six feet tall lzozlzozllzooz

    this is how simon sdom and shcuster sells its books by lying false covers flase adevrtising lies deceit bedbauchery meocon underhandded subterfuge fiat ies for teh secrteive tapers of assckcoong sessisoners who tape butthex without teh girlths conthent and telling the world with their neoocn frineds that such men are six ffet atall as they gignore the men bleeidng 2 detah in tehir foreign shores on foegrin wars zlzozlzozollzozzll and the fed funded university presidents surround themeslves with ysicphantic fed funded harems of leftist breanwased desouled asscoked womenz who have been taugt 2 hate men andtransfer welath from nem 2 ben bernkae and fgoldman sax rhyes with tucker max lzozlzozool

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  190. Laura wites:

    “Based on what I read I do think Josh was largely to blame for this tragedy.”

    Yeah, you could say that Camancho made her do it, huh?

    Seriously, go fuck yourself. That crazy jealous bitch acted on her own. Unless you plan on criminalizing the fine art of philandering, how is society to treat such offenders who are, as you say, largely to blame for the actions of the women they woo?

    Either women are fully responsible for their own actions, or they are not.

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  191. on July 29, 2010 at 6:53 pm Default User

    @Sdaedalus and others
    Now I know why I don’t comment so much. In the time it took me to write the reply above there were about 15 other replies. You would think I was writing a novel.

    Doug1’s comments/advice above is good.

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  192. greatbooksformen-

    fucktard doug1 wirtes zlozzlzoloo “Girls are probably naturally serially monogamous. The sluttier they’ve been the more that’s true I think generally speaking.”

    No, what I was referring to obviously is that the sluttier they’ve been, the more likely they are to be serial (rather than for keeps) about any monogamy they do have. Slutty enough girls before marriage probably starting cheating soon after marriage often enough, and hence aren’t monogamous at all.

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  193. @Default

    That’s okay Default, as usual your advice is clear, thoughful, considered and very sensible.

    I think if a woman is attracted enough to a man, & he is of good character, most women will be happy to let him take the lead. With some women, the level of attraction before this happens will have to be greater than others. It really is tied into attraction, letting the man take the lead is more than just a quid pro quo here, one actually wants him to take the lead.

    What I would have to say though, as well, is that not all men are comfortable, or happy, playing this role in a lot o aspect of an LTR. Some men are very comfortable in STRs, even medium length relationships, which don’t involve shared responsibilities or financial commitments, but as soon as these get involved, they push all responsibility for them onto the woman, who finds herself in the position of having to make all the decisions herself by (sorry for the pun) default. This can be very annoying.

    I suppose the solution is to test the waters first in this regard, I am just making the point that someone may be quite happy to lead in terms of social life & so forth (which is what tends to arise in a STR) but may not be so keen in terms of the more boring responsibilities in life.

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  194. This story is really sad. On the brighter side, apparently Rachel is an 8, which makes me feel a bit better about myself somehow. Also, I don’t even know any men who look and act like this, and can’t imagine any of the women I know — at any age of my life — dating a guy like this. So sad.

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  195. Default,

    “I believe that a strong enough emotional bond and a wife that supports more than challenges will make it easier for a man to stay faithful.”

    This was lovely. ❤

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  196. on July 29, 2010 at 7:06 pm Gunslingergregi

    ”””””I_Affe
    I’m sure it makes the father feel like a bad ass, but it’s not at all clear to me that this wouldn’t scare off more nice guys (who he should want for his daughter) than thugs.

    True. You could tone it down for more acceptable boyfriends of your daughter, but the message remains the same: I (the father) will hold you accountable for anything bad that happens to my daughter. There will be consequences for your actions.

    I think it would be especially useful during your daughter’s teenage years, as that’s when you have the most control over her and when she is most likely to date thugs/players/etc.

    ””””’
    How bout raising her to be a free woman?
    Give her the tools to make good descisions.
    Don’t shelter her quite so much from the storm.
    Let her know how life works.

    “sell her virginity to highest bidder”

    that is what you guys want right so make sure she is a good gaisha girl and has some talents to please men not just make money. he he he

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  197. “AHE,

    Fathers, not being women, would not share their daughters’ thug-loving tendencies.

    Since most men learn over time just how dangerous and silly the sexual behaviour of young women can be, they wish to protect their daughters from any foolish decisions.

    No man wants his daughter to be knocked up by some deadbeat.”

    the hypothesis i’m forwarding is not that parents want their daughters to fuck deadbeats — that would be putting it too extremely — but that a father might have reasons for chasing off the too nice guy also. does he want his grandson to have the genes of a pussy?

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  198. What did I tell you?

    Women prefer HARD Ghetto guys over White beta losers any day of the week. Women love thugs, and Black/Hispanic guys do thug better than anyone else. White guys if they want to get in the game will have to thug it up HARD to keep up.

    As for the Father, any attempt to put the kid in his place would have gotten his ass whipped. Kid was Mexican, and a thug. He’s got immunity to whip the Father’s ass, while Dad has to watch what he says before he gets his ass kicked and put in jail besides.

    My guess in the multicultural future, most White guys will have to pump iron, learn some kind of martial art, and carry, carry, carry. Be willing to shoot it out and book, whenever and wherever. So its a self-solving problem — those that don’t get wiped out.

    Women will be happy — women would rather live in mud and starvation but with bad boy thugs, than safety and security and boring betas.

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  199. on July 29, 2010 at 7:17 pm DOPEBOOKS4MEN

    KATE

    YO U WANNA HOLLA AT A NICCA RAW DOGG UP IN THAT SHIT NICCA CHOCLATE KUSH DRIPN DOWN A NICCA CHIN

    555-4568

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  200. my starting point was a reaction to this:

    “I’m sure it makes the father feel like a bad ass, but it’s not at all clear to me that this wouldn’t scare off more nice guys (who he should want for his daughter) than thugs.”

    and my point is that perhaps scaring off nice guys, if they are too nice, might be of value also.

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  201. “SexyPterodactyl
    Ok, I pick Game Melee teammates first: Red rover red rover, send Doug1 right over

    (He’s so BadBoy)

    GBFM, your turn: Go!”

    omg, perhaps GBFM is not sexy.

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  202. sdaedalus–

    It would have to be subtly done though because men are much more fastidious about women than they let on, you guys idealise women far more than you admit.

    I realize that there are cultural differences about Ireland compared to the US, despite all our Irish blood here. Nonetheless, I’d suggest not too subtly done.

    The fastidious real idealizers are more likely to be duds in bed, or become so.

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  203. on July 29, 2010 at 7:29 pm greatbooksformen

    the fed’s bill of rights reads as follows:

    your daughter shall have the right 2 be assocked by thugmen of her choosing
    men whose ancsetsors wrote greats books and classics of freedom shall be deemed guilty in any altercations and jailed lzozllzlzl
    any attempt to discipline a girl who has a right to her own body and can let in any thugcocks as she siwshes will be a felony resulting in incacertaion
    any attempt to impose deceny or standadrths on a owman above and beyond butthex will be riducled and castigated and impguned
    the purpose of a man is to pay 4 thugchildren as teh fed grows the underclass and erodes freeedom
    all men must pay for thugoffspring either by being cuckolded by tehri wives or cuckolded by a government which forces men to pay for chiclden that are not theirsz lozlzozzlllo
    henceofrth only men who cooperate in secrteiv tapings of butthex and the fed’s deosuling progams wwill be wired fiat bernankecahs from powrful womenz ecxucitives lzozlzo
    men sho suggets their are highter entiteis than getting it or putting it up the butt are to be exiled and defunded and denied bernankecash as tehir assetts are seized and given to the douchebagslututopia brave new neocon world lzozlzozlzlzllzlzlzlz

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  204. Kate : “Also, I don’t even know any men who look and act like this, and can’t imagine any of the women I know — at any age of my life — dating a guy like this. So sad.”

    That’s probably because the women you know aren’t that hot.

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  205. on July 29, 2010 at 7:30 pm Gunslingergregi

    ””””’but i’m just saying maybe there is such a thing as paternal-minded tingles. illogical?””’

    Well yea when the daughter is out with you ain’t nothing bad gonna happen to her because you have the capability to protect her.

    ”””””””sdaedalus
    I suppose the solution is to test the waters first in this regard, I am just making the point that someone may be quite happy to lead in terms of social life & so forth (which is what tends to arise in a STR) but may not be so keen in terms of the more boring responsibilities in life.””””””

    Yea if you expect your man to “share” chores and be “equal” it is gonna be hard to find a man that is attractive to you “sexually”

    If you see him jump to wash dishes then yea are you ever gonna get a tingle for him again?

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  206. @I_Affe

    “True. You could tone it down for more acceptable boyfriends of your daughter, but the message remains the same: I (the father) will hold you accountable for anything bad that happens to my daughter. There will be consequences for your actions. ”

    Well, I have two sons, and when they become teenagers, if some psycho implicitly threatens one of them at all for merely having the temerity to date his daughter, and if I find out about it, it will be the end of that relationship (and I hope the father enjoy’s the degenerates she dates in my son’s place). I will also notify the father that boys also have parents who have access to guns and if anything happens to my son I will hold him personally responsible without regard to the law.

    In other words, enough with the white knighting. Boys are not responsible for the poor decisions of girls.

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  207. A couple of thoughts:

    @ AHE

    Drop the “everything”. “Anything” that works is game

    @ Tim

    As for Zuckerberg, why does he care what his parents think? He’s a billionaire and they need him more than he needs them.

    By the way, we are all forgetting the story said this kid has a son with a 3rd female. That’s the way to avoid child support and alimony: HAVE NO INCOME.

    Oh and yes, America is screwed because whites did not invest enough energy in assimilating immigrant and minority populations. Whenever I’ve seen diversity work, the whites told the others “dress this way”, “speak this way”, “work this way”, and so on. The minorities (call them sell outs if you will) invested time in learning the way things were done. What did whites do? Run to the suburbs and hope the problem would fix itself. That obviously didn’t work.

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  208. Dave

    Listen to the words of this woman: “In place of a Dark Lord you will have a Queen – Not dark but beautiful and TERRIBLE as the dawn – treacherous as the sea – stronger than the foundations of the earth – all shall love me and despair!” (of ever being loved back by me). The ultimate black hole Borg Queen sucking the savor of life and love out of everyone else and giving nothing in return. When men pedestalize women they tempt women to believe and act in exactly this way – most women know that they are not proper objects of worship and recoil from men who pedestalize them. A good woman wants to be used and put to work by a superior male – not worshipped.

    On preparing for a dentist trip last night, I took 6 tramadol and some GHB. The warm glow reminded me of feelings I often have in my life – feelings of kindly love, shared reciprocity, community and communion.

    While it’s true we need to point out as clearly as possible specific attraction triggers, it’s an overall disservice if we try to reduce attraction to these few.

    Affect is an attraction trigger. The ability to feel and share moods is charismatic. Being dead inside just make you feel dead inside. Having some warmth and life and joy in there is attractive.

    Stone cold is not where it’s at. Not even pragmatically. There are tools in that specific toolset to use. But it’s not a complete lifestyle strategy.

    So your point that women don’t want to be worshiped is partially true. The man must lead, and she must be the slave. She must fear him, and know that if she fucks up she’ll be replaced.

    But if he also makes her feel cherished, it adds a new, more attractive and even commanding dimension.

    There is a matter of balance, but there is also a matter of amplititude. More of everything. Turn all the dials up. Not just thug dials.

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  209. @Gunslingergregi

    Maybe it’s being Irish but if I ever saw a man jump to wash dishes I’d keel over & die with shock.

    It’s as much as an Irishman in a committed relationship can do to press the “on” button on a fully loaded dishwasher.

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  210. Obviously Irishmen brought up outside Ireland, or those with part-Irish blood only, may be more evolved.

    I’m talking about pure Micks here.

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  211. Thugs are for playing with. Betas are for keeps!! They all have their purpose!! lol!!!!

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  212. Jake,

    “That’s probably because the women you know aren’t that hot.”

    Obviously. Because the most beautiful women want to date 5’5″ tall men, with no money, no education, and look like they were raised in the government-funded projects, who overcompensate with a bad attitude. Obviously this what catches the eye of most above-average women. Maybe this story is good news for you and gives you hope?

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  213. on July 29, 2010 at 7:40 pm greatbooksformen

    hey if i worte a book would any of you guys buy it>

    like i know they would deconstruct it on camputh but maybe i could sneak a few copies aournd to liberate the young menz in teh rveolution lzozlozlzlzlz

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  214. “DOPEBOOKS4MEN
    KATE

    YO U WANNA HOLLA AT A NICCA RAW DOGG UP IN THAT SHIT NICCA CHOCLATE KUSH DRIPN DOWN A NICCA CHIN

    555-4568”

    You forgot to include the area code.

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  215. We eventually must discuss the saga of Jessi Slaughter and her crazed dad. “If you mess with my daughter again, consequences will never be the same.” To me it tells the truth about the feral, female ID with more force and honesty than anything on reality TV.
    BTW, carry laws are great on many levels. No state has even considered rescinding them once having taken the plunge. Let the punks and bad guys feel the cold wind of fear.
    .

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  216. whiskey–

    What did I tell you.

    Women prefer HARD Ghetto guys over White beta losers any day of the week. Women love thugs, and Black/Hispanic guys do thug better than anyone else. White guys if they want to get in the game will have to thug it up HARD to keep up.

    These girls, especially the hotter Rachel, were dumb. She dropped out of high school without apparently being drug addicted or preggers. Dumber girls do go more for thugs.

    This is not a statistical report and there’s nothing to show that these were the hottest girls in the school they went to. I’m sure they weren’t. These two white girls had been assimilating into the Dominican wannabe thug’s culture. Girls fighting over player guys but in effect putting up with they’re having open harems is very much part of black ghetto culture. As is stabbing someone to death and other methods of murder. Which is why this came to his attention through a reader.

    Twenty years ago these girls likely would have been shamed away from going with this wannabe black Hispanic thug. By their parents, and by their friends. Now many feel from the media and the schools that it’s “racist, racist, racist” to do any of that. Well if that’s racist then I’m all for that degree and type of it.

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  217. Some of you take this way too far and overreach in your judgement of women’s love for badboys. You extrapolate too much from anecdotes like this.

    Of course women love alphas but not all women are like those two low-class skanks who cream themselves for some scrawny little thug faggot.

    There are emotionally healthy, sexually mature women out there who want a strong, intelligent, masculine, dominant man who isn’t a dozy fucktard / wannabe-gangster / lowlife loser.

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  218. on July 29, 2010 at 7:54 pm Gunslingergregi

    ””””AHE
    but i’m just saying maybe there is such a thing as paternal-minded tingles. illogical?
    ”””””’

    Well yea I think a thug/man is someone willing to die for their beliefs. But yea the dad actually knows his daughter going to be safer. Because if anyone tries to disrespect the daughter someone is gonna get asswhooped or killed. So the daughter may get fucked but not fucked with.

    Why this is special situation.

    I think people think somehow that thug is bad when really it is a man other thugs respect so shit don’t get crazy.

    I used to chill out with dads moms would feed me. he he he

    But yea people got wrong idea about being hard.

    What is a beta gonna do when some other dude disrespects your daughter while they are out?

    Kind of like my ten. She went to go get some drinks for us at football game.
    Then came back and like some dood made lood comment.
    I am like allright.
    Lets go.
    So walk back but nobody there but yea about to whip ass.
    But when I was with her at any time nobody said a fuckin thing just stared and drooled. he he he

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  219. Whiskey–

    The basic reason black guys tend to have more “natural” macho game skilz (learned growing up rather than as adults on the web or reading books) is because no one’s been beating them down about being macho and dominant with girls.

    Feminism has been beating white guys around the head since they first enter school and before in families and in front of the TV, to NOT be dominant with girls but rather always equalist or probably better deferential, and btw if they act superior, that’s tough, no retaliation or “misogyny” or sexist behavior allowed.

    Blacks guys are nothing if not sexist.

    White guys were way more macho on average before feminism arrived and took over in the 70s. It’s reflected in movies and TV of the time, and everywhere.

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  220. Laura

    Based on what I read I do think Josh was largely to blame for this tragedy.

    Hogwash.

    You’d never say that if the genders were reversed.

    Sure he play their jealousies for his own advantage and drama and probably better sex. (Takes some strong game skilz to do that.)

    jealousy =/= murder.

    As for his game skilz, no doubt he has lots. But him getting away with two girls fighting over him one way or another on the regular (basically Rachel going after him despite his having a public gf he’s not leaving) also has to do partly with the permission our society rather gives to black but not white guys. With all the PC programing in media and schools. Too much coming down on black guys or maybe coming down at all isn’t cool. It gets called “racist” left and right. They’ve got their own culture, and white girls can’t be messin with that too much.

    And as well now that the MTV generation has had much sense of shame for going with this differing race and culture shamed out of them by “racist, racist, racist”, and now that white guys can’t so openly and publicly shame these girls, out front and out loud, that’s a factor too. So it’s almost permissible, culturally, for this probably Dominican guy to have his little harem out in the open, whereas with a white guy, white rules would much more apply for these white girls, most likely.

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  221. Kate: Maybe this story is good news for you and gives you hope

    No, this story doesn’t give me hope. It gives me despair. I am tall, have a master’s degree, have a high income office job, am very amiable and I volunteer in a youth shelter. Which means I will never have two young hotties so passionate about me as they would be about this tattooed thug.

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  222. on July 29, 2010 at 8:00 pm greatbooksformen

    lozozlzozlzlolzozlzl

    ben fold five bitches ain’t hsit lzozlzlzlz

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  223. on July 29, 2010 at 8:00 pm Gunslingergregi

    ””””sdaedalus
    @Gunslingergregi

    Maybe it’s being Irish but if I ever saw a man jump to wash dishes I’d keel over & die with shock.

    It’s as much as an Irishman in a committed relationship can do to press the “on” button on a fully loaded dishwasher.
    ”””””
    And if you saw that would you ever be able to tingle for him again?

    I see you deftly avoided the tingle answer he he he

    Irish
    So that may be why I would rather die than do womans
    work.

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  224. on July 29, 2010 at 8:03 pm Trimegistus

    It seems to me that any kind of gun-waving physical confrontation with the kid just makes your daughter see him as that much more of a badboy. (Unless, of course, you take things to their logical conclusion and bury him in a shallow grave down by the river — but that has its own disadvantages.)

    Play to your strengths, not his. If he’s a little thug or thug-wannabe, talk to him about intellectual topics and get him to reveal what an idiot he is. Talk to him about money and get him to admit what a deadbeat he is. Talk politics and find out how uninformed he is. Hell, talk to him about fixing cars and get him to show what a useless klutz he is.

    The point is, pick at his weaknesses. In particular, those areas where your daughter might still have some vestiges of an individual personality left.

    And NEVER, NEVER “debate” the little shit as an equal. Treat his opinions with the mock-seriousness you’d treat those of a first-grader. Condescend as if the future of your family line depends on it.

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  225. @Gunslingergregi

    I was once instructed on how to properly wash dishes by a man. Apparently my dishwashing skills weren’t up to scratch. I found it quite sexy actually, even though he was wearing an apron at the time. I think it’s all about how you frame the dishwashing.

    Yes, I would have known you were Irish even if you hadn’t said it before. There’s just something about the Irish male psyche that’s unmistakable.

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  226. on July 29, 2010 at 8:05 pm greatbooksformen

    thug thug thug cocking in my future-wife’s door!
    thug thug thug cocking makes her a whore.

    mama won;t you take this cock from me-eee
    i can’t use it any mor-ore
    that fed funded douchecock is going down-down
    desouling da ladies into whor-ores

    ass ass ass cocking in my future-wife’s back door!
    thug thug thug cocking makes her a whore.

    neocon take this anal lube from me
    I can’t use it anymore
    in anthuses it’s too dark to see
    fundin douchebags to make womens whore-hores

    thug thug thug cocking in my future-wife’s back door!
    ass ass ass-cocking makes her a whore.

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  227. on July 29, 2010 at 8:06 pm DOPEBOOKS4MEN

    KATE

    ITS 420

    BRING THE MOVIES

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  228. Hi Sexy Pterodactyl

    Any chance of a photo of your appendages, maybe garnished with mint leaf or two. Or a laurel wreath?

    I’ve never read Ivanhoe. What literary character would you be most like? Mr Rochester, from Jane Eyre? Mr Darcy, from Pride & Prejudice, Uncle Bulgaria, from the Wombles? Or Paddington Bear, from Darkest Peru?

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  229. on July 29, 2010 at 8:06 pm Gunslingergregi

    And I mean that literally.

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  230. I’m wondering if there aren’t different types of bad boys who appeal to different types of women. A bad boy who has impeccable grammar and who is intellectually savvy might be more compelling for some women than a thug. Perhaps this also differs with age. 18 and 19-year-olds may not notice a lack of savvy and intelligence, and therefore may be more susceptible to the thug type.

    Jake,

    “No, this story doesn’t give me hope. It gives me despair. I am tall, have a master’s degree, have a high income office job, am very amiable and I volunteer in a youth shelter. Which means I will never have two young hotties so passionate about me as they would be about this tattooed thug.”

    My condolences.

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  231. OhioStater–

    What did whites do? Run to the suburbs and hope the problem would fix itself. That obviously didn’t work.

    The main reason whites run to the suburbs is “for their kids” when they have them. They usually don’t run if they don’t have kids. What does “for their kids” mean? Better schools. What makes the schools better? Having fewer blacks and Indio Hispanics in them. It’s said by the left to be money but that’s hogwash. DC has some of the highest spending per capita in it’s public schools in the nation.

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  232. @SexyTerrodactyl

    Obviously the choice of mint leaf or laurel wreath would depend on the size of the appendage involved. The garnishing has to be proportionate. And yes, this is a shit-test.

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  233. As Roosh once wrote in his blog … the dumber the chick , the more direct you can be.

    The chicks involved weren’t exactly Rhodes scholars.

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  234. Ok, greatbooks finally wrote something that made me laugh.

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  235. xsplat-

    So your point that women don’t want to be worshiped is partially true. The man must lead, and she must be the slave. She must fear him, and know that if she fucks up she’ll be replaced.

    But if he also makes her feel cherished, it adds a new, more attractive and even commanding dimension.

    There is a matter of balance, but there is also a matter of amplititude. More of everything. Turn all the dials up. Not just thug dials.

    Just so.

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  236. on July 29, 2010 at 8:18 pm Gunslingergregi

    ”””””’sdaedalus
    @Gunslingergregi

    I was once instructed on how to properly wash dishes by a man. Apparently my dishwashing skills weren’t up to scratch. I found it quite sexy actually, even though he was wearing an apron at the time. I think it’s all about how you frame the dishwashing.

    Yes, I would have known you were Irish even if you hadn’t said it before. There’s just something about the Irish male psyche that’s unmistakable.”””””

    Really interesting about the psyche.

    So I need to visit my homeland then your saying.
    Every time I see pictures of ireland and the cliffs I get some primal feeling and it feeds my soul.

    Really I think your problem is that you want something of a house husband but your not gonna be sexually attrated to one and neither will he be to you that much.
    I reward my woman with sex because she washes my clothes by hand and saves my life every day. he he he

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  237. sdaedalus–

    Obviously the choice of mint leaf or laurel wreath would depend on the size of the appendage involved. The garnishing has to be proportionate. And yes, this is a shit-test.

    I espy you putting my advice to work already!

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  238. So many idiots in this story. The impetus for this drama was the father and the sorry state that our society has reached. But the root cause of the “can’t do nothing” attitude lies in the government i.e. police wrenching control and power and thereby true justice from the hands of the common man.

    If I hypothetically have a daughter one day and she gets mixed up with some thug (let’s just assume I didn’t fuck up somewhere else along the way during her upbringing), I’d prefer to beat the fuck out of the kid and defend myself against any of his boys seeking revenge (I would like to be able to form my own posse of uncles and male cousins should I really need to defend myself and my family). But I can’t just do that. My hands are tied; I have to rely on police to fill in the gaps, but they don’t have the resources to fill in the gaps. In short, law-abiding men have become emasculated. This is the true curse of Western society; it isn’t because we have necessarily been overly liberal or anything (although that is a problem too); it’s because there is a problem of moral hazard within the police state.

    Here’s a solution: bring back vigilantism. Vigilantism was a bedrock of Western society and Western culture.

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  239. What a waste. Here is something for the food to remember: When in conflict, come to the Sarlacc, who will be happy to settle it with the accumulated wisdom of thousands of years of experience.

    Baste yourselves well, too. I find it helps the process.

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  240. @Kate
    “I’m wondering if there aren’t different types of bad boys who appeal to different types of women. A bad boy who has impeccable grammar and who is intellectually savvy might be more compelling for some women than a thug”
    Well, I’m not sure about impeccable grammar being feasible (it’s hard enough to attain in boys who aren’t bad boys), but here’s an example of a bad boy for me.

    @sdaedalus
    “There’s just something about the Irish male psyche that’s unmistakable.”
    How would you describe it? The first word which springs to mind to me is tortured but I don’t know why.

    And I think overall out of them, Paddington Bear for me. Mr Rochester had the dark brooding looks & tortured thing going on but his past was just a tad too dark for me.

    @SexyPterodactyl
    I am about to submit.

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  241. on July 29, 2010 at 8:25 pm greatbooksformen

    dude petrodacyl lzozlozzozol you can have all the dudes

    i gets all da ladies

    have fun asscokicng men while i’m playing in the hen pen lzozlzzlz

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  242. Kate: A bad boy who has impeccable grammar and who is intellectually savvy might be more compelling for some women than a thug.

    Outside of Hollywood and fantasy, there are not many “bad boys” who are intellectually savvy and educated. This is because to be authentically “bad” a man needs some key characteristics : lack of empathy, aggression, and impudence. But these qualities are discouraged in educated circles. In addition, people with higher intelligence naturally feel more empathy, and are less capable of cultivating bad boy traits even if they are told that being a jerk is attractive to women.

    Of course there are the ones who fake the bad boy image with style of dress, asshole demeanor, and cocky lines, which is what the pickup artist community tries to do. Some women fall for it, some don’t.

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  243. @greatbooksformen
    How do you get da ladies when you tell them to go away? Or is that you doing asshole game?

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  244. on July 29, 2010 at 8:27 pm Tupac Chopra

    6:36 p.m. “You say you love me, but you don’t even have the decency to text me back?”

    Finally, at 8:02 p.m., Josh typed, “Bring the movies.”

    “Bring the movies.” Step aside, Skittles Man, there’s a new kid in town — Bring the Movies Man. This kid has mastered laconic text game. Overgaming man should take note. In the future, whenever I hit a stumbling block with a woman I’m trying to bed, I’ll remember the philosophy of “bring the movies”, and instantly my game will tighten and my ladykiller attitude will reassert itself.

    LMAO

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  245. on July 29, 2010 at 8:29 pm Vincent Ignatius

    Chuck
    Here’s a solution: bring back vigilantism. Vigilantism was a bedrock of Western society and Western culture.

    I’ve often thought that the West would be better off if it was still acceptable to pop a man in the mouth for stepping out of line. Now passive aggressive and other unacceptable behavior is given a free pass because people are so quick to press charges.

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  246. on July 29, 2010 at 8:31 pm Tupac Chopra

    sharpcool:

    Read some of the comments under the article. They’ll make you puke. If you didn’t know better you would think the guy was the murderer. All the comments I read are about how terrible he is, meanwhile the cold-blooded psychopath murderer was the girl, who stabbed another girl in the heart with a steak knife.

    But since girls are vulnerable little angels not accountable for the things they do, or the guys they see, it’s the guy who is the bad one here.

    Unbelievable.

    Jesus. A young girl in her prime is BRUTALLY murdered, nothing to see here, move along, and a young psycho-killer is so given to fits of rage that she feels compelled to stab a knife in another girl’s heart, nothing to see here, move along.

    Let’s all focus on how the guy was such a meanie and hurt the innocent girls’ feeeewings.

    Women = Narcissitic Solipsism.

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  247. @Kate
    Please don’t take any movies anywhere, seriously what sort of man doesn’t have view on demand in this day and age? It is the 21st century! Oh right, some 5ft 5 loser kid chasing the girls who aren’t getting attention from the football jocks or the sexy fun guys (admittedly there really aren’t enough around at that age) and attention whore by putting up pictures of their tongues on the internet.

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  248. Doug1So it’s almost permissible, culturally, for this probably Dominican guy to have his little harem out in the open, whereas with a white guy, white rules would much more apply for these white girls, most likely.

    That’s an interesting take. I suppose there is an element of the “out of town guy” going on. Women generally band together to shame men from “cheating”. But the out of town guy is immune to the local rolling pin wielding matrons.

    White guys in Asia see the same effect. We are outside of the system of face and shame entirely, and a lot of women are attracted to that. They just want to let loose with a guy who can’t lose public face – a guy who isn’t inside the hierarchy at all – who has his own hierarchy. Out of town guy.

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  249. on July 29, 2010 at 8:34 pm Tupac Chopra

    Sdaedalus:

    Offered in the spirit of goodwill — but I suggest you consider changing your avatar, particularly in light of recent revelations.

    Incongruency, while often a tingle-killer, can be a boner killer as well.

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  250. @Vincent Ignatius
    “I’ve often thought that the West would be better off if it was still acceptable to pop a man in the mouth for stepping out of line”
    Probably just as well, can you imagine how quiet this blog comments would be if people were popped off (irl) if any of them were considered to have stepped out of line by some girl’s father/brother/friend?

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  251. @xsplat
    Not directly related but you mentioned about western men in Asia and I came across this recently (I read it in an Asian newspaper but I just did a quick google to find it). As I said not related but quite interesting.
    http://www.thailandqa.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17439

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  252. gbfm 1

    gay pterodactyl -103988

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  253. @SexyPterodactyl
    Do you dress to the left or the right? Or are you above such things?

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  254. on July 29, 2010 at 8:46 pm Gunslingergregi

    ”””””on July 29, 2010 at 8:24 pm SexyPterodactyl
    Doug1, will you and XPlat join my Game Melee team? We got da pimp wing.

    Hah! GBFM: I got the most valuable alphas before you did.

    Red rover, red rover, send dana right over

    Yay,
    SexyP

    ”””””

    I got msexceptiontotherule flying out to see me.

    I win.

    he he he

    a year in the making though god dang she is a good girl.

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  255. Chuck

    Here’s a solution: bring back vigilantism. Vigilantism was a bedrock of Western society and Western culture.

    In Indonesia the police won’t prosecute vigilantes. Even if you murder the man who is fucking your wife, the cops and community will think it was within your right. An armed burgler is likely to get hacked to death by a mob, and the cops will consider it an act of god.

    Cops are all on the take here, but also they are within the community more – of the communities standards.

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  256. “I’ve often thought that the West would be better off if it was still acceptable to pop a man in the mouth for stepping out of line. Now passive aggressive and other unacceptable behavior is given a free pass because people are so quick to press charges.”

    no shit. have a brazilian friend got arrested for punching a jerk at a starbucks. when the cop arrived my friend patiently explained that the guy had said “fuck you” and therefore he had the right to punch. he didnt yet get that in the US we have stupid laws that make even mild physical violence to someone who is deserving of it a crime.

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  257. “@Vincent Ignatius
    Oh, for some reason, I read pop a man in the mouth as shooting someone in the face, just realised from other commentators it just meant punching them. LOL.

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  258. on July 29, 2010 at 8:52 pm Tupac Chopra

    xsplatt:

    Affect is an attraction trigger. The ability to feel and share moods is charismatic. Being dead inside just make you feel dead inside. Having some warmth and life and joy in there is attractive.

    Stone cold is not where it’s at.

    Then you ought to double up on your GHB stash, since your online aura radiates stone cold dead.

    BTW, can you hook a brotha up? I miss G.

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  259. on July 29, 2010 at 8:52 pm Sir_Chancealot

    Thug fucking: The leading cause of death for women 18-34.

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  260. on July 29, 2010 at 8:58 pm Gunslingergregi

    ””””””’Vincent Ignatius
    Chuck
    Here’s a solution: bring back vigilantism. Vigilantism was a bedrock of Western society and Western culture.

    I’ve often thought that the West would be better off if it was still acceptable to pop a man in the mouth for stepping out of line. Now passive aggressive and other unacceptable behavior is given a free pass because people are so quick to press charges.
    ”””””
    It is if your an alpha.

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  261. Can’t do nothing? Idiot.

    Grab a Baseball Bat or a Metal tube and procede to beat the shit out of the bastard. Or pay for getting that done for you.

    Problem solved.

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  262. Anon,

    What’s the fun in being the father of a girl if you can’t make her teenaged suitors a little uncomfortable?

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  263. Tupac, you’ve got a point about moderating affect. I’ve been thinking about that this morning. Rather than let it run on auto-pilot, there are ways to manipulate it, to get that inner warmth and sensitivity and contentment growing. There are several personal reasons that the autopilot had my affect take a nose dive – mentioning them here would be distasteful and inappropriate. Time to pull up on that wheel.

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  264. the missing point is that susceptibility to game is variable among women, highest among teen girls. women like men with higher psychopathy than them. chicks like men who are more evil than them. the more evil the girl, and these girls are obviously quite evil, the more evil they demand in a guy. the corollary is true, the more socialized in traditional norms the girl, the less susceptible the girl is to game. I don’t think these girls are very socialized.

    the other thing is that guys like this don’t score past 25, when money trumps game. zuckerman is a young guy.. most young girls don’t care much about money. a girl over 25 is different.

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  265. Lily and Jake,

    Okay, maybe “impeccable” grammar was setting the bar a bit high for most bad boys. However, I think they’d get further in some cases. I’ve been approached by a few Jesse James-esque guys, and when they open their mouths, I totally shut down. Any initial intrigue or slight attraction goes right out the window. Perhaps this means I’m not hot like the woman who would be swayed by this type of man, and I can accept that. It just seems to me that a more intelligent person would be quite cunning at appealing to the most people.

    An example of a bit of bad boy who is good with words: Marilyn Manson. I would be more attracted to him than the thug above because he actually has an opinion on something other than movies. Although, honestly, neither one appeals to me.

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  266. on July 29, 2010 at 9:13 pm almost 40 year old virgin

    I present the bitch-push:

    If only I´d have known what I know now… I´d have a much less saner life than now.

    Bitches be insane!

    I´ll let you “alphas” worry constantly about which buttons to push on them gals. So much so that you internalize it and become even worse assholes than natural assholes already are.

    Hint: You know you´re doing evil stuff but still intentionally do so, MUCH worse than acting out your innate psychosis like the “natural” psychos.

    Have fun with it and what you have become.

    Yeah, yeah. I know you will.
    Well enjoy those sweaty moments of manipulated bliss, I bet it´s grand.

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  267. Tupac

    What recent revelations?

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  268. I really hope you’re not suggesting I’m a whore, Tupac?

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  269. xsplat–

    White guys in Asia see the same effect. We are outside of the system of face and shame entirely, and a lot of women are attracted to that. They just want to let loose with a guy who can’t lose public face – a guy who isn’t inside the hierarchy at all – who has his own hierarchy. Out of town guy.

    That’s a VERY interesting insight. When I combine what you’ve said here and before on that, and what Gorbachev’s said about his experiences in Korea, it’s illuminating.

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  270. Or a man. I will be really angry.

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  271. Default User–

    Though your advice was good, I think that Sdaedalus has always had that demure, playful, flirt side to her.

    Yes I agree. I was just egging her on.

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  272. on July 29, 2010 at 9:20 pm Gunslingergregi

    ””””””’xsplat
    Doug1So it’s almost permissible, culturally, for this probably Dominican guy to have his little harem out in the open, whereas with a white guy, white rules would much more apply for these white girls, most likely.

    That’s an interesting take. I suppose there is an element of the “out of town guy” going on. Women generally band together to shame men from “cheating”. But the out of town guy is immune to the local rolling pin wielding matrons.

    White guys in Asia see the same effect. We are outside of the system of face and shame entirely, and a lot of women are attracted to that. They just want to let loose with a guy who can’t lose public face – a guy who isn’t inside the hierarchy at all – who has his own hierarchy. Out of town guy.
    ”””””””

    No your not getting it rules don’t apply to an alpha.

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  273. @Kate
    Ok, here’s one for you, French footballer, Thierry Henry. And he’s ‘blick’ too, which according to some around here automatically qualifies him as a bad boy.

    @sdaedalus
    I thought TC was referring to your description of your physical appearance?

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  274. on July 29, 2010 at 9:24 pm greatbooksformen

    lozzozozlzozlz

    sometime i think

    dat ch

    might actually change da world

    and it makesme feel good

    to have known him

    lzozlzllzllz

    “Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak; courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen.”

    Winston Churchill

    “Never give in, never give in, never; never; never; never – in nothing, great or small, large or petty – never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense and those things that make you lzozlzozlzozlzlzzlzl”

    Winston Churchil

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  275. And? My gravatar is a petite dark blonde with long straight ears and a delicately rounded jawline too. We even have matching necklaces.

    The whole dog thing is the great unspoken assumption men make about all women on the internet in any case. Why not play to it, and put up a nice pretty doggy. In this neck of the woods, it’s a damn sight more sensible than a naked photo.

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  276. Lily–

    but here’s an example of a bad boy for me.

    To square up our terminology, he’s a good example of a very edgie guy, but hardly a “bad boy”. He’s a high exec at Apple for chissakes.

    Ok he could be a bad boy biker if he didn’t have so much else going on like smarts and creativity, but he does, so he’s not.

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  277. @greatbooksformen
    ““Never give in, never give in, never; never; never; never – in nothing, great or small, large or petty – never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense and those things that make you lzozlzozlzozlzlzzlzl”
    Winston Churchil”
    Hah hah. He crossed the floor, and described it ‘not only “ratted but re-ratted”.’

    @Doug
    Sure, he’s not a bad boy biker but he’s a bad boy to me, it’s all relative to the woman.

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  278. on July 29, 2010 at 9:31 pm Gunslingergregi

    This was stuck in mod for some reason.
    @on July 29, 2010 at 9:17 pm sdaedalus

    Really interesting about the psyche.

    So I need to visit my homeland then your saying.
    Every time I see pictures of ireland and the cliffs I get some primal feeling and it feeds my soul.

    Are guys in Ireland like me?

    I reward my woman with sex because she washes my clothes by hand and saves my life every day. he he he

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  279. on July 29, 2010 at 9:39 pm greatbooksformen

    hey lotsa my posts that were inmoderation just showed up so lily and petrodactyl and everyone interested in touching/seeing/tasting/licking my cocka which has bever been in an anthsth to the betsh of my knoweldge scroll up and check out my raps and responses 2 lily lzozlzozozo

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  280. @Doug
    Well, just bad enough 😉

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  281. on July 29, 2010 at 9:41 pm Tupac Chopra

    From another thread:

    Doug:

    dana–

    what feminists are trying to do is create for women a REASONABLE RIGHT TO RELY on the story of any strange man they meet.

    What I really think the smarter and leading radical feminists are trying to do with all their various radical reshaping of rape law pushing, is make it effectively a convictable rape in almost all circumstances if the girl is later felt in any way unhappy or certainly used by the experience.

    Thus they will have a HUGE weapon over men’s heads about slut shaming the, embarrassing them, treating them coldly later, failing to try to make a relationship work if that’s what she wanted, and on and on.

    Remember — women benefited from the loosening of social mores in the 60’s, thanks to feminism. They did not want to be stuck with beta providers if they had anything to say about it. Thus, you get the situation we have today: women clustering around the apex alphas. The women get their tingles satiated. Of course, they don’t always snag the brass ring of the alphas in MARRIAGE, and they may have to tolerate being just one among many in an alpha’s harem, but they apparently consider this state of affairs to be preferable to being tied to a provder beta.

    In this way, women liberated themselves from their intersexual competion with beta males.

    But look what has happened — now women are sad, so so so very sad, that they get pumped and dumped by Mr. Big’s. That ain’t RIGHT dammit!!! By GOD, they DEMAND to snare those Mr. Big’s into COMMITMENT.

    Women are now not happy that they have to compete with OTHER FEMALES for Mr. Big. Something, ANYTHING, had to be done about this new intrasexual competition with OTHER WOMEN.

    (Let’s not forget that feminism is not about equality, but about POWER FOR WOMEN AND THEIR NEEDS.)

    Thusly, we get the second stage in womens’ attempts at realizing the female sexual utopia — adjust the laws to regard casual sex as “rape” if the woman feels “used” or she feels “regret.” Yeah — regret at not snagging the alpha she sportfucked.

    The outcome of these legal meanderings is in fact to FORCE alpha males to be beholden to the sluts they fuck, i.e., the lower status females whom they would prefer to be flings, but the alphas are whom the lower status females wish to LOCK DOWN into commitment.

    In other words, all the sluts who are deciding to have “5 minutes of alpha” are now using the laws to compete among THEMSELVES, to create a situation where “whomever got their FIRST, wins.”

    To recap — break down social strictures thereby allowing women to hypergamously sportfuck way above their league….THEN…institute laws that give the women legal power to force the men to then be beholden to them.

    It’s a two-step process. Quite a clever strategy when you think about it.

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  282. on July 29, 2010 at 9:42 pm Capt. Obvious

    On the topic of “badboys,” you don’t have to thug it up like Whiskey says.

    You just have to become a d-bag.

    Brody Jenner from The Hills is good example of a fake badboy that gets all the young ladies wet.

    Young chicks can’t really tell the difference between real badboys and fake ones anyway.

    My advice: douche it up.

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  283. on July 29, 2010 at 9:43 pm Tupac Chopra

    yoda makes a good point that should be heeded by the young, dumb, full of cummers:

    the missing point is that susceptibility to game is variable among women, highest among teen girls. women like men with higher psychopathy than them. chicks like men who are more evil than them. the more evil the girl, and these girls are obviously quite evil, the more evil they demand in a guy. the corollary is true, the more socialized in traditional norms the girl, the less susceptible the girl is to game. I don’t think these girls are very socialized.

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  284. on July 29, 2010 at 9:44 pm Tupac Chopra

    Tupac

    What recent revelations?

    Bossy Lawyer.

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  285. on July 29, 2010 at 9:46 pm Tupac Chopra

    And? My gravatar is a petite dark blonde with long straight ears and a delicately rounded jawline too. We even have matching necklaces.

    Your avatar suggests the naivete of a loving, submissive simpleton.

    I’m not convinced.

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  286. @Tupac
    “Your avatar suggests the naivete of a loving, submissive simpleton.”
    Have you seen the movie?

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  287. the more socialized in traditional norms the girl, the less susceptible the girl is to game.

    This sentence makes no sense to me. Game is a set of tools, a set of screwdrivers for screws if you will.

    If it’s not working, you’re using the wrong screwdriver. This doesn’t mean screws are less susceptible to screwdrivers.

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  288. Tupac–

    That’s a really acute comment.

    You’re basically right I think.

    I don’t think that’s EXACTLY how most feminists think about it consciously but I do think it’s in there in their more subconscious motivations.

    They think of it more as an area of “male privilege” still existing, this ability of alphaish males to screw tons of girls on their terms and not on the girls terms. And want to criminalize that as much as they can, starting from the edges of drunk girls and proceeding to “yes means yes”, i.e. an attempt to shift the burden of proof in effect, and thus make all men however alpha worry about pleasing the girl enough after the fact to not incur her wrath — and date rape accusation.

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  289. Bhetti–

    What are you doing up now, bad girl?

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  290. on July 29, 2010 at 9:53 pm Gunslingergregi

    ””””Tupoc
    In other words, all the sluts who are deciding to have “5 minutes of alpha” are now using the laws to compete among THEMSELVES, to create a situation where “whomever got their FIRST, wins.”

    To recap — break down social strictures thereby allowing women to hypergamously sportfuck way above their league….THEN…institute laws that give the women legal power to force the men to then be beholden to them.

    It’s a two-step process. Quite a clever strategy when you think about it.
    ”””
    But again that is not gonna apply to real alphas it will only hurt men who are not willing to die for their beliefs. I think cops would actually have a problem consistantly enforcing that one though. Because of course cops gonna go down in droves as well.

    All the social experimentation lol
    It is nuts man god dam. Why I say the west got to go it had its time but when ya just keep experimentin with real people and causing pain wtf.

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  291. on July 29, 2010 at 9:55 pm Tupac Chopra

    Bhetti:

    the more socialized in traditional norms the girl, the less susceptible the girl is to game.

    This sentence makes no sense to me. Game is a set of tools, a set of screwdrivers for screws if you will

    It makes sense if you revise the umbrella term “Game” to the rather more narrow “asshole/douche” game.

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  292. Doug:

    I miss you, I can’t sleep.

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  293. on July 29, 2010 at 9:56 pm Tupac Chopra

    Lily:

    Have you seen the movie?

    Believe it or not, no.

    But now that I think about it, you may have a point.

    Nevertheless, I still feel it doesn’t suit her.

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  294. “the corollary is true, the more socialized in traditional norms the girl, the less susceptible the girl is to game. I don’t think these girls are very socialized.”

    this is only true if u r talking about caveman game, which seems to be the recent emphasis. james bond, don draper types r not cavemen. macho urbane game will beat caveman game most days.

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  295. Tupac

    What alternative gravatar would you suggest?

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  296. Lily–

    Well bad boy to me means someone’s who’s alpha to girls but no good to society and almost always not to the girl either over any extended time period.

    Edgie to me means has what you call the bad boy dominant charismatic male vibe, but can very well be useful to society and is much more likely to be good longer term for the girl.

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  297. Doug:

    Not telling SD or Lily to sleep, are you? Oh what shall pass with these Rachels and Sarahs, whilst I sleep naively unawares…

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  298. Bhetti–

    I miss you, I can’t sleep.

    My baby. I’ve neglected you a little the last couple of days.

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  299. @GBFM
    Thank you for the clarification on your position, I must say your talk which includes such educating language such as splooging and asscocking had given me a different idea. I hope the below helps.

    Simon and Schuster

    Dear Sir*

    I am writing to you in objection to the credibility you offer Tucker Max by promoting him in the manner that you do.

    We are supposedly living in an evolved society, yet your company appears to be of the opinion that promoting the behaviour of the lowest echelons of our society is somehow in the public interest. Well, I for one sir, say no!

    I understand that Mr Max’s endeavours have proven unsuccessful financially, and I hope that in these commercial times, that if not for a moral imperative which may be too much to ask for, you will cease your efforts for commercial reasons.

    I look forward to your cooperation with much anticipation.

    Yours faithfully
    Lily England
    Tunbridge Wells

    *@GBFM please do not get offended I did not say Sir/Madam, it still isn’t considered proper in England.

    **I do not actually live in Tunbridge Wells. Sorry, I could not resist.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disgusted_of_Tunbridge_Wells

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  300. Bhetti–

    I think SD is one hour closer but guilty as charged with Lily.

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  301. Bossy female lawyers work late hours (and some people wonder why we’re cranky)

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  302. Whiskey:

    “My guess in the multicultural future, most White guys will have to pump iron, learn some kind of martial art, and carry, carry, carry. Be willing to shoot it out and book, whenever and wherever. So its a self-solving problem — those that don’t get wiped out.”

    Another self-serving problem is that as more and more chicks are black, fewer and fewer white guys are going to even want to fuck them.

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  303. Doug

    I live in Ireland, not Atlantis.

    Last time I checked we were still in Greenwich Mean Time.

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  304. SD–

    I thought Ireland WAS Atlantis. OMG!!

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  305. edgie to me has always sounded gay and equivocating.

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  306. In addition to mad game, he also had an iPhone and a perm.

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  307. on July 29, 2010 at 10:10 pm Gunslingergregi

    And I don’t mean getting shot as much as woman getting them on it.
    The thing is it is like fight club I mean at some point male cops are gonna be getting completely fucked by system and then they just gonna stop giving a fuck about enforcing the dumb laws that just keep coming down the pike. I would hope.

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  308. @Doug
    Sure, I was going on from Kate’s comment about bad boys. And agreed edgie boys can do a lot of good for society, particularly that one. Though, my parents would not be happy with me bringing that particular ‘bad boy’ home to meet them.

    I am keeping you from your beloved ‘bad girl’ Bhetti (nice alliteration there), so I am going off to bed. Unfortunately, there is a bad boy who fell asleep in it earlier and I don’t have the heart to turf him out, though I actually mean the puppy not the boy.

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  309. @sd

    when do u have time to work?

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  310. I am good at multitasking. Multiple laptops & a dictaphone help.

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  311. “Multitasking” dammit.

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  312. Doug… don’t know why you torture me. Positive mentions of me to third parties is directly correlated to how much you don’t want to talk to me at the time!

    Tupac, yes it makes more sense.

    SD: Irish Mean Time is at least one hour behind 😉

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  313. on July 29, 2010 at 10:24 pm Tupac Chopra

    Tupac–

    That’s a really acute comment.

    You’re basically right I think.

    I don’t think that’s EXACTLY how most feminists think about it consciously but I do think it’s in there in their more subconscious motivations.

    I’m all aboot the subconscious motivations.

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  314. Doug1 — Good point about Joe White guy being emasculated and Black/Hispanic guys not. Even bigger advantage for them along with women viewing Black/Hispanic guys as “naturally more masculine” which they see confirmed by behavior.

    Jay — “emotionally healty, sexually mature women” = cougar at the very end of any attractiveness who can’t draw the thug anymore. There. Fixed it for you.

    Willard — I keep telling you, I don’t live in San Francisco. Maybe someone from Stormfront could keep you company?

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  315. strange how microculturl the phenom of white girls with black guys is. u almost never see it in texas but see it all the time in southern cali, for instance.

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  316. Bhetti–

    Doug… don’t know why you torture me.

    Girl game.

    You’re a very well cared for and cherished girl/bint and you know it

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  317. on July 29, 2010 at 10:38 pm Tupac Chopra

    I WANT TO FUCK DANA IN HER JEW MOUTH

    (while Cannon watches)

    (and weeps softly)

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  318. “You can ritualistically humiliate him in front of her.”

    …or just shoot him… preferably hire some other thug to do it. Once he started hitting the daughter that should have been it. Dad should have found a way to make him fear for his life.

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  319. Well, as they say, in the desert, every weed is a rose.

    If a guy came to my door looking like that when I was a teenager, my dad would kick his ass and then mine. That would be the end of that.

    I think my dad would probably kick our asses if that happened even at the age I am now.

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  320. Whiskey says, “Jay — “emotionally healty, sexually mature women” = cougar at the very end of any attractiveness who can’t draw the thug anymore. There. Fixed it for you.”

    You have no idea of the level of perversion of some men.

    None.

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  321. on July 29, 2010 at 10:52 pm Willard Libby

    Dave

    Regarding love triangles resulting in tragedy NOT involving an obvious thug try this one on for size:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Graham_(murderer)
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17965475/
    http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/localnews/crime/stories/DN-cadets_10met.ART0.State.Edition2.4517054.html

    Some women play for keeps.

    Excellent links. But Graham was hardly a bad boy thug. He was a reasonably good looking future Air Force academy cadet.

    And the victim was a cute good girl not a black thug chasing skank.

    And the other girl was a future Naval academy cadet.

    Similar girl rage at female competition but on a whole nother level of class/IQ. Which I guess makes it worse. I think we expect much more from these kids that the other group.

    http://www.people.com/people/archive/issue/0,,7566961021,00.html

    http://startelegram.typepad.com/crime_time/2007/12/it-was-one-of-t.html

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  322. Tupac Chopra:

    The outcome of these legal meanderings is in fact to FORCE alpha males to be beholden to the sluts they fuck, i.e., the lower status females whom they would prefer to be flings, but the alphas are whom the lower status females wish to LOCK DOWN into commitment.

    Your logic is sound, so it is obviously wrong (remember, don’t apply logic to women!). In reality it’s quite a bit more psychotic than that, and a lot simpler:

    If I can’t have him, no one will!

    It’s purely based on having a weapon to lash out back at anyone who “wrongs” them. There’s no mating strategy or lockdown incentives, it’s merely “I got him back.” Straightforward, based entirely on feeling better and feeding the hamster.

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  323. hey now!

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  324. Jay,

    “Of course women love alphas but not all women are like those two low-class skanks who cream themselves for some scrawny little thug faggot.

    There are emotionally healthy, sexually mature women out there who want a strong, intelligent, masculine, dominant man who isn’t a dozy fucktard / wannabe-gangster / lowlife loser.”

    You’re totally correct! Jay, you need to spread your intelligence here and intelligence is totally alpha.

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  325. Jay,

    You’re totally correct! Jay, you need to spread your intelligence here and intelligence is totally alpha.

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  326. on July 29, 2010 at 10:56 pm Willard Libby

    whiskey

    Willard — I keep telling you, I don’t live in San Francisco. Maybe someone from Stormfront could keep you company?

    Not totally sure what you mean but it looks like your Jewish paranoia is showing itself again.

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  327. on July 29, 2010 at 11:02 pm Tupac Chopra

    hey now!

    Baby, I wouldn’t leave you high and dry. You know I aint like that.

    I’d stick around for a gefilte fish or two.

    Also, I’m sure Cannon makes a mean matzah ball.

    We could have a nice little festivus dedicated to our multuculti diversity.

    Serenity Now!

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  328. “When they were alone, he was all over her.”

    Push/pull is what kept her going for a year. Being an asshole all the time is boring.

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  329. on July 29, 2010 at 11:06 pm Cannon's Canon

    i’d probably watch that

    no homo

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  330. Lily,

    I have no idea who Thierry Henry is — I don’t follow sports, so I’ll take your word for it!

    Since we’re comparing definitions of bad boys, mine would be
    someone who doesn’t comply with convention, which often manifests in the constructs of his relationships with people, society, etc.

    Artists of all kinds are notorious bad boys. To say anyone who is creative, or has anything to offer society, is automatically not a bad boy, is strange to me. Even Charles Manson was a decent musician; many famous people were aware of who he was before the murders. He was also a good leader, if nothing else. These things could’ve been used to the benefit of society, and I think most would agree Charles Manson was a very bad boy.

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  331. on July 29, 2010 at 11:07 pm Willard Libby

    AHE

    strange how microculturl the phenom of white girls with black guys is. u almost never see it in texas but see it all the time in southern cali, for instance.

    Really? Everyone feel free to google search on –

    “girlfriend Jana Shearer”

    White 5’10” blond beauty killed, dismembered and partially eaten by married, black thug ex con boyfriend who then calls and taunts her family.

    if the skank killer in your post is an 8 what the hell WAS Jana Shearer?

    [Editor: Skank != ugly. Rachel’s prettier. Jana has a jutting chin, chiclet teeth. horrible story btw. A dude like that does not deserve the antiseptic death of lethal injection. He should be thrown in a pit of alligators.]

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  332. These girls are both white trash, and the guy is a typical hoodie. If alpha means acting like I was raised in the ghetto then I prefer beta.

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  333. This story is a brilliant example of core game, at least in terms of what impacts the female gina tingle nerve-endings. So it has value as a teaching moment.
    But it also impacts the guy reflex called, “Just kill it and put it in a hole.” I mean, short little greasers with over-confidence that makes them careless? What could be easier? With the right approach, he would even end up digging his final resting hole all by himself.
    For better or worse, I come from a deeply atavistic family of origin.

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  334. Lemmy, you don’t need to be a thug. Be an elitist hard ass.

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  335. Chicks dig alphas.
    Some alphas are fucktards.
    Some chicks are going to like these fucktards.

    Taking from this story the belief that all women want a loser little thug (over a quality alpha) is just stupid, and makes you look like you’ve lost all sense of balanced reason.

    Not all women are as pathetic as those two skanks.

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  336. on July 29, 2010 at 11:17 pm Willard Libby

    Here’s Jana Shearer’s myspace site to go with what I posted above.

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  337. on July 29, 2010 at 11:20 pm Badger Nation

    Hooooly crap, 360 comments in what six hours? Whoo.

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  338. @what,

    “You’re totally correct! Jay, you need to spread your intelligence here and intelligence is totally alpha.”

    Sounds very sincere, thank you.

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  339. on July 29, 2010 at 11:32 pm Hungry Hungry Hippos

    Damn… white girls are doing this now too? Wouldn’t have even made the news if they were NAMs.

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  340. @Doug1

    “The basic reason black guys tend to have more “natural” macho game skilz (learned growing up rather than as adults on the web or reading books) is because no one’s been beating them down about being macho and dominant with girls. ”

    Low SES guys of all stripes tend to have great game becasue it is usually all they have to offer. It’s sizzle, but no steak. It works best on women hwo are used to hamburger helper (poor women) or women who can by their own steaks (rich girls who are slumming).

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  341. jay, in what way is this guy a loser?

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  342. Bitter betas – why go through all this trouble trying to bang hot women? You want to feel good right? Why not just cut straight to the chase? It’s called heroin and God put it on this earth for a reason. It’s better than sex.

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  343. on July 29, 2010 at 11:58 pm Tupac Chopra

    Here’s Jana Shearer’s myspace site to go with what I posted above.

    She looks like a happier Auntie P.

    Foreshadowing?

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  344. Seth

    There is only one thing better than sex. And that is politics, properly understood.

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  345. The master speaks.

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  346. on July 30, 2010 at 1:15 am Smashing_Retards

    You can ritualistically humiliate him in front of her. Nothing drains the passion from a girl’s love faster than a public diminution in her lover’s status.

    To do this in a relatively safe way, sit on him.

    Yes, yes, that is normally reserved for agitated females, but he certainly looks like he deserves that treatment.

    As the daughter freaks out and he freaks out, talk normal like nothing is happening. This is just another day, and we are having a conversation.

    That should do it.

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  347. @Jake

    “No, this story doesn’t give me hope. It gives me despair. I am tall, have a master’s degree, have a high income office job, am very amiable and I volunteer in a youth shelter. Which means I will never have two young hotties so passionate about me as they would be about this tattooed thug.”

    Yeah, that’s a sad story. Usually guys like you have to settle for just one intelligent, emotionally stable woman. instead of multiple ignorant and crazy dopes. It’s a rough deal.

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  348. AHE asks, “jay, in what way is this guy a loser?”

    One of his bitches is dead instead of one upstairs and one downstairs.

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  349. A British teenager was beaten, burned and tortured over 18 hours by two women who believed she had slept with one of their ex-boyfriends.

    Georgia Fenn, a 19-year-old from Tonbridge, England, was doused with boiling water and repeatedly burnt with cigarettes by Lucy Viner-Mood, 22, and Lois Gibson, 18.

    She was also stamped on until she passed out and had her ponytail hacked off while she was locked in a flat with the two women, the Daily Mail reports.

    The two attackers, who were described as “feral” and “sadistic” by police, admitted they were guilty of false imprisonment and assault causing actual bodily harm.

    Viner-Mood, who initiated the attack, was sentenced to five years in jail and Gibson received three years in a young offender institution.

    Maidstone Crown Court heard that the pair had lured Fenn to a flat after they heard that she had slept with Viner-Mood’s ex-boyfriend.

    Fenn was thrown out of the flat at 2pm the next day, with a broken nose, second degree burns, and two black eyes.

    She said the attack left her with post-traumatic stress disorder and she now had to take anti-depressants.

    “‘It’s been a really dreadful time and I have been really badly affected. I’m not sure I will ever be right,” she said.

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  350. J says, “Yeah, that’s a sad story. Usually guys like you have to settle for just one intelligent, emotionally stable woman. instead of multiple ignorant and crazy dopes. It’s a rough deal.”

    The horror!

    What’s going to be funny is when an intelligent, emotionally stable woman is so hard to find that…wait, that’s already happening.

    Just have some popcorn, kick back, and watch the chaos.

    “Higher quality pussy” apparently now means just young, no matter how deranged or fatally stupid the woman attached to it.

    This is what the guys are going for these days. No use in fighting it (except in your own kids). Just make a note of it, and become the evil overlord mom and grandma who is willing to go to jail for child abuse before being ethically guilty of neglect.

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  351. Basic fatherhood failure. Nobody else is gonna defend your family from the savage except you. Cops used to be able to, but beating down the savage is now forbidden.

    Should have hooked up your little girl with some useful badass like .mil or police. Camacho would lose all sorts of cool after crying like a bitch after getting arrested for “no licensio y no seguro” on his early 90’s Honda and getting it impounded. Or getting his ass beat by a squad of jarheads.

    I don’t blame the savage, he’s doing what he CAN. I blame American society for being pussies and not fighting for the culture.

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  352. I like the admiration for the jerk’s “alphaness” mixed with the disdain for his blackness in these comments.

    This is a story about a black looking guy bonking two nubile young white chicks. That’s obviously going to hit a nerve with the Sailer crowd.

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  353. on July 30, 2010 at 3:30 am unlearning genius ...

    Low IQ NAMs basically are genetically good at bad-boy r-selecting type strategy because of higher free flowing T ….
    no amount of game can compete with such a natural display of higher sexual worth .. they mature faster and evolve more pronounced secondary sexual characteristics and are socially confident and so on .. being low IQ, they are unburdened of the need to reflect .. all this results in an enormous competitive advantage over other races like whites (and they absolutely crush high IQ asians) .. sadly in our current milleu this means that they will hog the sexual output of highly desirable young women ..

    So what is a high IQ guy to do?
    step 1) Realize where on the T spectrum you stand and assess your mate potential on the short term scale .. fix things you can fix .. primarily body fat composition and add some style markers .. (unfortunately you will still be outrun and you will look like a try hard further lowering your value). No matter what the “game” crowd says .. the odds are simply stacked heavy against high IQ betas.

    step 2) Completely sever off net negative activities .. drop LJBFs, platonic girls, girls who are obviously lower end and looking to settle etc .. CONSERVE your resources so that someday you can use them better. Use hookers if you are on obscnenly long dry spells (don’t buy into the hookers are for losers meme .. its just another tact to artificially inflate the value of pussy).

    step 3) Be on the lookout for LTRs where you naturally have a competitive advantage .. never commit completely .. always be looking to trade up . remember that a woman will always coldly dump you if a better prospect arrives.. and you should do the same without guilt or remorse. frequent venues where you can attract such prospects (avoid bars and settings which accentuate your weakness) .. keep multiple options going.

    step 4) Invest all your mental energy into increasing your societal status .. People might diasgree on this one, but I think that one advantage “betas” have is that with time their advantage will come. Instead of competing in the short term arena where you have poor odds due to genetics it is far better to focus on your high IQ .. atleast in your 40s you could move to another place and still have chicks .. whereas if “game” is all the currency you have .. you will be competing with younger turks in a few years .. you will certainly look ridiculous ..

    IN SUMMARY: THE WORLD IS VERY UNFAIR TO HIGH IQ BETAS .. PLAY TO YOUR STRENGTHS .. A PUSSY WILL STILL FEEL GOOD WHEN YOU ARE 50 OR 60 OR 90 .. HAVE A COOL HEAD ABOUT IT ALL .. BIDE YOUR TIME .. DONT PLAY AT TABLES WHERE YOU ARE ALREADY BEAT ..

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  354. Rachel is a 7 max, more like 6.5, but could be that the centre of the bell curve in the US is different to Europe.
    Her friend Egle Nakaite is an 8.

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  355. Jana Shearer was a 6 at most

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  356. “high quality” is whatever a man wants it to be.

    Physical Attractiveness will always take top priority.
    You hear a new story about a attractive woman and when people talk about it no one forgets to mention that she was beautiful.

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  357. So does this guy qualify as a high-end Alpha?

    “You two – fight to the death!”

    “Okay!”

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  358. Jay,

    your intelligence shows itself through not generalizing and using black and white thinking. Nothing is all or nothing. Continue….. spread the intelligence. At least there is hope….ONE smart guy!!!…..alpha!!

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  359. on July 30, 2010 at 7:14 am namae nanka

    “I agree with this, and for the life of me I can’t understand why so many women have a moral problem with Game.”

    because they don’t know what morality is?

    “emotionally stable woman”

    hahahaha

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  360. Yay, Jay.

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  361. William says, ““high quality” is whatever a man wants it to be.”

    Obviously. Mediocre at-best looking, young girls are now “high quality”. I got it.

    Actually, I learned that in high school from being socially ugly while all manner of fug was “popular”.

    “Physical Attractiveness will always take top priority.”

    Oh, how I wish you were right.

    Unfortunately, we live in a mangina generation in which physical attractiveness means social convenience.

    They may recognize beauty, but if it isn’t socially convenient beauty, it causes either a cognitive dissonance that launches them into a frothing fit of rage, or the object only gets to see the darker side of their desire.

    Don’t take my word for it. I learned this from one Romanian and one Ukrainian former 10’s with good genes. One is in her 40’s and still quite hot for her age, partly because she looks younger. She looked like one of those girls who’s too pretty to be a model. The other is in her 60’s now and thanking Nature for the loss of a consistent sex drive and finally getting some real wrinkles. She was born into a religious but not utterly insane family. Her experiences made her an atheist.

    I say this not to defend ugliness, but to defend beauty, and defend game as well.

    Beauty requires the steady hand of a strong man to shield it from predators. It seldom comes with common sense when it is uncommonly abundant, and therefore requires guidance to prevent its bungling into big trouble.

    So good men cannot afford to allow themselves to be overly influenced by society and media, as far as their taste in women. As it is, this influence is also uglifying women in record numbers. They are striving for an unattainable masculine beauty rather than a very attainable feminine beauty.

    Until this is not the case on either side, Americans talking about physical attractiveness is like Egyptians talking about passionate sex.

    Try some guy-talk with an Egyptian guy who grew up in Egypt, and you’ll understand what Russians or better yet, Ukrainians hear when Americans talk about beauty.

    “You hear a new story about a attractive woman and when people talk about it no one forgets to mention that she was beautiful.”

    True in some cases. I’m sure you’ve also seen cases where a woman’s beauty was conveniently ignored or downplayed, and then you met her and she was quite lovely despite the hype or anti-hype.

    …and still others where the woman was said to be hot or stunning, and you (being of the type who’d be drawn to a game blog at all) found her to be “not all that”.

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  362. J–

    Low SES guys of all stripes tend to have great game becasue it is usually all they have to offer. It’s sizzle, but no steak. It works best on women hwo are used to hamburger helper (poor women) or women who can by their own steaks (rich girls who are slumming).

    Feminism has been a disaster for white men in America.

    They should follow me in declaring themselves unambiguously and proudly anti feminist.

    Men should embrace “sexism” and what feminists call “misogyny”. That is anti feminism. Enjoy girls and women especially when they’re being feminine, but hate feminism.

    And call out the omnipresent misandry of American culture, which is very real, left and right.

    I can’t think of a single feminist lobbied for law since 1970 that I don’t want repealed in it’s entirety J. Not one.

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  363. “Maxim #73: When a girl emphatically insists she is so over you, she’s never been more into you.”

    Truth.

    You nailed this one. I can tell stories.

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  364. Great post. Depressing too.

    The guy looks like a FAVELA kid or a prison inmate. Ask Roosh.
    I would cross the street if I saw him coming. He may be exotic in Iceland, but in the rest of the world he is ugly. And the very thin belly is a genetic trait in young mulattos.

    The US is absolutely the best country in the world for a woman to pick a serious, good guy, but they prefer this kind of trash.

    Now the only honorable option left for the father is to have the rat killed. He’d better done something sooner. I would have hired a bunch of thugs to kick his butt if he was dating my daughter. I don’t have any doubt he would have ran away from her like hell.

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  365. Jay–

    Taking from this story the belief that all women want a loser little thug (over a quality alpha) is just stupid, and makes you look like you’ve lost all sense of balanced reason.

    Not all women are as pathetic as those two skanks.

    You’ve said more simply what I keep saying.

    But there’s still a takeway, and tat is for white men to reject feminism utterly, at it’s core.

    Reject equality of the sexes. Men should lead, period. Equalism is the shiite.

    And ultimately, beat the shiite out of women if they resist too much. Not suggesting really doing it but have that as your backstory, as your ultimate right.

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  366. He is 5’5 and built like a twink. No excuse for not kicking his ass.

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  367. CH, go to google news and search on “rachel sarah camacho” and then watch the video of Rachel’s sentencing (to 20.5 years to life).

    She’s no 8. She’s a 5.5, maybe a 6. She also won’t age well. (Look at those hips as she is led away). Sarah was about a 5.

    As for those of you who don’t think much of this guy’s physique, why don’t you post a photo of you without your shirt on?

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  368. My friends,

    Here in Brazil a nice girl in her late teens named Suzanne von Richtoffen (yes, from the Red baron’s family), daughter of famous psychiatrists, started dating a rat from a poor family. The guy was a no-good shit. She fell for what we call here “amor de pica”, which means “cock love”, when the young girl tries sex for the first time and gets crazy.

    This girl plotted with the boyfriend and his brother a plan to kill both her parents, take the inheritance and live happily ever after. First part of the plan worked and they did kill both parents at night, during sleep.

    So, what is a father to do?

    Pay someone to beat the crap out of the rat. Destroy his car. Shoot him in the foot.

    The “amor de pica” will eventually fade, your daughter will hate you for a month, and everything will be fine. The guy will be sacred shitless and will never go to the police, especially if he is a bad boy.

    Don’t waste your daughter’s life, and the 20 years you put into it.

    GOT IT ?!!! Capisce?

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzane_von_Richthofen

    She is a 7 or a 8 at least:

    The rats (I guess rats like a flat abdomen)

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  369. I forgot to mention:

    After killing the parents, the couple WENT TO A MOTEL TO FUCK !

    Yes, that is the world we live in.

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  370. on July 30, 2010 at 11:00 am glorious bastard

    AHE

    The reason the father isn’t ‘evolved’ to be happy when his daughter is dating an obvious thug is because he gets all of the downsides of the relationship and none of the upsides.

    His daughter may get a thrill and tingle from dating this thug but her father dosen’t. And when she gets pregnant and becomes another of his baby mammas it’s her father that will end up supporting her and the baby.

    So on that level parents should want their daughter to marry a guy that will support a family.

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  371. Jay

    Not all women are as pathetic as those two skanks.

    As well the leftist created PC canon of “racism, racism, racism” shields these girls from being shamed away from this fucktard by their parents and firiends/others in their high school. Or it tends to, and gives them a rejoinder.

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  372. glorious bastards

    And when she gets pregnant and becomes another of his baby mammas it’s her father that will end up supporting her and the baby.

    Not me I sure as hell wouldn’t.

    I’d disown her for “dating” him much less getting pregnant by him.

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  373. re: Anonymouses Anonymous

    “Most of us fat, balding pauchy white guys have guns. Any threat from little pissant playa would require retaliation.

    Any man who isn’t willing to sacrifice his freedom to protect his family, isn’t worthy of having a family. A few years in prison will be worth not having to bury your daughter, or even to visit her in the trailer park.”

    The problem with that is that a daughter stupid enough to go after the little pissant playa, is just going to latch onto another one just like the first. Meanwhile, you’re in jail. The problem is not with the pissants, it’s with the girl that goes after them. There are just too many pissants in the world to cleanse the world of them all.

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  374. Not me I sure as hell wouldn’t

    To add to commetnary on being a father of a girl — like Doug says, she must know that three will be consequences. At the very least, you must make it credibly known that she will be disowned and all contact will be cut off if she humiliates you this way. She has to know that you will also not acknowledge the grandchild as yours.

    Being respected by your daughter goes a long way toward her not slumming with rats. Building respect begins at her birth, really. Once she’s 15, it’s too late. As does having a wife who is not a Katy Perryish wild girl. Genes matter.

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  375. “greatbooksformen
    hey if i worte a book would any of you guys buy it>

    like i know they would deconstruct it on camputh but maybe i could sneak a few copies aournd to liberate the young menz in teh rveolution lzozlozlzlzlz”

    pupu has thought you’ve got 4greatbooks, and you are the greatbooks4man. what is this *if* business all about?

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  376. greatbooksformen

    your daughter shall have the right 2 be assocked by thugmen of her choosing
    men whose ancsetsors wrote greats books and classics of freedom shall be deemed guilty in any altercations and jailed lzozllzlzl
    any attempt to discipline a girl who has a right to her own body and can let in any thugcocks as she siwshes will be a felony resulting in incacertaion
    any attempt to impose deceny or standadrths on a owman above and beyond butthex will be riducled and castigated and impguned
    the purpose of a man is to pay 4 thugchildren as teh fed grows the underclass and erodes freeedom
    all men must pay for thugoffspring either by being cuckolded by tehri wives or cuckolded by a government which forces men to pay for chiclden that are not theirsz lozlzozzlllo

    You’ve got a point. The ruling class needs thugs to keep the betas in their place, meekly working and paying taxes, and keeping the ruling class in $$$ and women.

    Good article on America’s Ruling Class lays it out.

    The Dems don’t give a shit about anything but their own power. The Republicans pretend to offer an alternative while having the job of blocking any real attempt to dislodge the Ruling Class.

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  377. Doug and Bhetti

    You two love birds are sooooo adorable! B you made my heart melt when you told D you missed him!

    I LOVE PEOPLE IN LOVE!!!

    Bhetti you are the cutest thing ever!!!

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  378. women and men …….we can never be equal. We all have our own strengths and weaknesses. It’s all good.

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  379. Pupu
    I have aksed GBFM what there is to it if i sign a contract to follow the great books, i have gotten an answer, not the most relevant one, but im still hoping for a one that is curing the truth, i want more then just the diagnosis, this is not neurology, i want the cure.

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  380. on July 30, 2010 at 12:25 pm mandy been here a while


    Those poor young women. Society has so thoroughly inundated them with the message that they are worthless, they felt compelled to throw themselves at this guy this way for validation. If we could only work harder to empower young women and give them self esteem, they wouldn’t behave this way.

    Nothing could be further from the truth as witnessed by the comments to the article berating the “thug” and gorifying these violent, promiscious, indencent little “angels.”

    Society should have warned them about the inner depths of darkness they possessed in their own souls and its(really their own) potential to destroy them. Society fails women by not holding them accoutnable for their own terrible behavior so they can repeat it over and over and over again.

    The girls parents failed them both. The parents of Sarah should have, at the very least, sent her to an all girls boarding shool out of state when she wanted to transfer high schools for this thug. THey should have warned them about the dangers of their own tempraments and emotions to help them make long term decisions. Apparently neither family dedicated any time to character development.

    Lets face it, none of these three would have ever contributed anything of lasting value to soceity.

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  381. @Nicole

    “The horror!”

    LOL

    “What’s going to be funny is when an intelligent, emotionally stable woman is so hard to find that…wait, that’s already happening.”

    I wish I were GBFM right now. I could write some some ravings about “Where have all the good women gone? lolllzzzz” Turned into sluts by lack of male commitment? What no one wants to understand is what a vicious cycle this is. There’s a great post BTW at Hooking Up Smart on PI. It seems that 50% of BOTH males and females who hook up on college campuses actually WANT…..you guessed it, relationships. Talk about looking for love in all the wrong places and ways!!

    “Just have some popcorn, kick back, and watch the chaos.”

    I wish I could. My heart is breaking for these college women. And I’ve got a dog in this fight–two actually, before I know it, my boys will be in college, I hope NOT worrying about whether or not they are the objects of skankly passion.

    ” ‘Higher quality pussy’ apparently now means just young, no matter how deranged or fatally stupid the woman attached to it.”

    The key word here is pussy, not woman. This is what happens when you reduce people to their genitally; the hindbrain takes over. If all a guy wants is to capitalize on that, he deserves what he gets. Other guys will look for a bit of character to go with the pussy.

    “Just make a note of it, and become the evil overlord mom and grandma who is willing to go to jail for child abuse before being ethically guilty of neglect.”

    For me, so far, so good. My kids seem to have internalized the moral structure, the hubs and I brought them up in. But, only time will tell if I avoid being the grandmother of children by women like the little skanks in this story. This, of course, is where my husband and I sue for custody and pray that nurture and 50% good genes outweigh whatever skank genes motivated the bad behavior that creates messes like this.

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  382. Nicole is right, if i would have ever turned up on the doorstep with a guy like that i would have gotten a slap. But this post is to dark for me, i cannot take death so superficially, i feel ill with the pain that it cause, every time.

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  383. @ unlearning genius

    “No matter what the “game” crowd says .. the odds are simply stacked heavy against high IQ betas.”

    Especially when the girls who would be naturally attracted to you are no longer good enough.

    Now, let’s all make fun of Zuckerberg for being with the exact sort of girl who would be attracted to his Aspergy self even if he had no money. She does, after all, have fat thighs.

    Why look for someone compatible who just might actually love you when you can have someone hot?

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  384. on July 30, 2010 at 12:37 pm gunslingergregi

    You guys are kind of forgetting something.

    Because he had no money to speak of and because he only had high school those woman actually loved him.

    Ya saw the guy on other thread who said he had 3 million by 26 and life didn’t change much for him and people he knew lol.

    The hate comes from he didn’t follow the system of college good paying job and then hopefully a quality woman to use you as a slave with you never knowing if she loves you.

    I used to spend 10k in 2 weeks every time I saw my woman. I enjoy spending money as well. I like staying in expensive hotels I like eating good food. I like exploring.

    That is not the test of whether she loves me though. Most woman are gonna be in love with you when you provide that lifestyle. So yea now I spend 600 a month and she still treats me the same. The true test is to see what they do when you don’t take em everywhere. The true test is just you being the entertainment for them without any bells and bought whisles.

    ””””””on July 30, 2010 at 1:33 am J
    @Jake

    “No, this story doesn’t give me hope. It gives me despair. I am tall, have a master’s degree, have a high income office job, am very amiable and I volunteer in a youth shelter. Which means I will never have two young hotties so passionate about me as they would be about this tattooed thug.”

    Yeah, that’s a sad story. Usually guys like you have to settle for just one intelligent, emotionally stable woman. instead of multiple ignorant and crazy dopes. It’s a rough deal.
    ”””””””

    Just stop posting j your not a good deal. You posted before how your sad that your husband makes double what you both used to earn as a couple and that you wish he didn’t have to work so hard (like a slave). But he had to work so hard because you are a moron. You said because it takes double what you made before to raise your two special ed kids. You don’t have the empathy to fucking help your husband at least even have a good time. He come in and wants to fuck sweaty and you got to make him take a shower lol You don’t love him. So he gets to work like a slave his whole life so his woman can not work and have the time to be on blogs that are about pickup talking about what a quality woman she is and how everyone should aspire to get a quality woman who doesn’t love them passionatly and who talks about cuckholding all the fucking time. You obviously also have no fucking clue how to keep a budget so that you don’t spend double what you both made before just to be able to raise kids and save some of your poor hardworking husbands money so he doesn’t get completely fucked if things go south one day. I mean you probably look down on this dude right but one of his woman was raising a kid on way the fuck less than you which probably makes her smarter than you.

    Again betas this is what quality woman offer.

    They will have college education
    Then they will be working when you meet them
    then they will stop working when they have kids
    Now the sex will be mediocre
    There will be no love
    there will be no passion
    They will feel “bad” that you are slaving away
    But will be doing nothing about it to make their husbands life easier.
    They will not manage finances to save money only manage finances to spend the most money that is possible to be spent off of your labor.
    They will use the computer to go online and talk about how they are a quality woman on a pick up website with men while you are off slaving away.
    Did I miss anything?

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  385. “……date haggard cougars who’ve been plunged like a backed up toilet for twenty years…..”

    OUTSTANDING LINE!!!!!

    lmao!!!!

    Gonna use that one, claim it as my own…thanks

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  386. I fund buttcocking asshex! lolzzzzzz

    GBFM you will not prevail over my megafund for filthy nigger dicks for stupid cunts and the anuses of stupid cunts everywhere!

    Fiat butsecks!

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  387. @Sad B

    “The US is absolutely the best country in the world for a woman to pick a serious, good guy, but they prefer this kind of trash.”

    No, it just looks that way because you are reading this blog and not the society pages. Serious, good guys are still getting married, having kids, running companies, etc.

    Tonight I’ll serve a home-cooked meal to a man some on this blog would call a high IQ beta chump and our two special-K kids, but it won’t make the news.

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  388. @ Gunslingergregi

    Ouch, buddy. Pulling no punches today I see…

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  389. @Omega dork,
    everybody’s fat in that video, the aspect ratio is off. Pet peeve of mine since my early computer graphics days when pixels weren’t square.

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  390. on July 30, 2010 at 12:53 pm gunslingergregi

    ””””’IN SUMMARY: THE WORLD IS VERY UNFAIR TO HIGH IQ BETAS .. PLAY TO YOUR STRENGTHS .. A PUSSY WILL STILL FEEL GOOD WHEN YOU ARE 50 OR 60 OR 90 .. HAVE A COOL HEAD ABOUT IT ALL .. BIDE YOUR TIME .. DONT PLAY AT TABLES WHERE YOU ARE ALREADY BEAT ..””””

    In summary tell the truth about what you want and don’t lie to yourself either.

    ””””’bictopia
    Nicole is right, if i would have ever turned up on the doorstep with a guy like that i would have gotten a slap. But this post is to dark for me, i cannot take death so superficially, i feel ill with the pain that it cause, every time.

    ””””

    You want an answer you have an excess of empathy for other just like me. I have hamstrung myself all through my life so that I could feel empathy for others less fortunate and be able to really understand life and pretty lies to its fullest. And also understand how to beat life even as a superlessfortunate.
    What you need to do is channel that into love.
    And give back and love love love love love
    And get some love love love lovel love.
    And that is the cure to an extent.
    Don’t just feel compassion show compassion. But yea you can’t change the world that easy but you can make some parts better.

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  391. @Doug 1

    “I can’t think of a single feminist lobbied for law since 1970 that I don’t want repealed in it’s entirety J. Not one.”

    How about the ones that made it easier for women to get into med school?

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  392. As far as I can tell, this blog’s readership is drawn from two largely exclusive sets: the first being younger guys on the prowl, and the other, middle-aged guys in mortal fear that their daughters are headed down the path of slutdom, and who are hoping to find some nugget of “Dad Game” to save them.

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  393. on July 30, 2010 at 1:00 pm gunslingergregi

    ””””’dragnet
    @ Gunslingergregi

    Ouch, buddy. Pulling no punches today I see…
    ””””””

    I want j to wake up and suck and swallow the load from her sweaty husbands dick. He sounds like he deserves it.
    She needs to put the kids in babysitting and meet her husband after he comes home from work at the door and grab whatever he has in his hands and put that shit on the floor drop his pants and blow him he he he
    give the guy a memory fuck. Give back dodgammit.

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  394. on July 30, 2010 at 1:01 pm namae nanka

    “Society should have warned them about the inner depths of darkness they possessed in their own souls and its(really their own) potential to destroy them. ”

    lol there is no soul in the darkness, if you don’t like that assertion, you can always count on butthexx without the girlth’ conthenth to purge it out, like all the cases listed above.

    cockas in, father out

    “Reject equality of the sexes. Men should lead, period.”

    But ze women don’t get it that they will be lead by a specific man and not the whole mankind; one of the absoultely worst fate that can befall them is seeing a lower level male(in their eyes) get a higher status.

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  395. on July 30, 2010 at 1:06 pm mafishfalastin

    Sigh… this is what happens when you date a shaygetz, some filthy shiksa comes along & stabs you in the hart. Keep it in the family yo!

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  396. Guns, if he handled his bitches well, I’d have nothing bad to say about the guy.

    If two of your women are making death threats at each other, what would you do?

    Nip that shit in the bud.

    Despite having a hard ass dad, I’m not so sheltered. I understand people get twisted up inside over love. They actually should. If it isn’t at least a little scary, it isn’t real.

    The thing is, I don’t care if a guy is a millionaire or broke as a broke dick dog, if he’s going to have more than one woman, he needs to know how to handle women.

    This poser indulged one of the worst of the feministic delusions: exclusivity with an alpha.

    No matter what foppish peacockery a guy does to wow the ladies, that’s probably the one thing no player should ever *EVER* bend on. He should never tell a girl she’s the only one, and make sure she understands that there are and will be others.

    You know, if a guy was real, and would still come back after my dad kicking his ass or chasing him away, my dad might actually give him a chance under supervision. He’d even help the guy to do something with his life, if he showed sincerity and dedication. He used to be a broke jazz musician back in the day.

    This is not about the guy being broke. It’s about his being stupid, but amazingly, in posession of tight game. Too bad it wasn’t tight enough to keep the stabby one in line.

    The post was written half admiring the guy, but I see it as a cautionary tale, “Never promise exclusivity.”

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  397. Gun.

    You want an answer you have an excess of empathy for other just like me. I have hamstrung myself all through my life so that I could feel empathy for others less fortunate and be able to really understand life and pretty lies to its fullest. And also understand how to beat life even as a superlessfortunate.
    What you need to do is channel that into love.
    And give back and love love love love love
    And get some love love love lovel love.
    And that is the cure to an extent.”

    You are actually spot on, i have problem to really make a difference but then no problem to feel things are messed up, i can be there for people that are similar to me, but how to help those that i have nothing in common with?
    That is why i told it is like neurology, neurology can make the perfect diagnosis of an incurable disease but unfortunately they have no cure, so what is the benefit of knowing then? Compared to a disease you can fix or living a life without staring the truth in the eye.

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  398. on July 30, 2010 at 1:18 pm gunslingergregi

    ”””’on July 30, 2010 at 3:30 am unlearning genius …”””’

    Try step one getting in shape.

    Really the biggest one in my younger days I would play basketball a lot and football with no pads a lot. So I was in great physical shape.

    So yea I didn’t actually even game the ten to get her she saw me and drooled and asked my friend to hook us up. So yea it was social proof but think of all the hours put n to become a speciman myself.

    Although I did have an unusual hairstyle at the time which I did myself. I would shave all the way around my head on sides and back to skin and then I would have the top be long but not past my ear so it probably made for a viscious look plus I think I was wearing what people would call the wifebeater style teeshirt which showed off my arms and shoulders he he he
    No tatoos though ever. No man defaces my temple.

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  399. Willard Libby

    Paranoid nonsense. The kind of White women who are into White SWPL herbs might want a brown herb but not a brown thug.

    Pedantic nonsense

    You mustn’t have looked at the pictures of the 3 love triangle participants above.

    Soon, your woman will be gleefully swallowing Chris Brown’s load.

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  400. Anon.,

    Yeah, “Dad game” would be a good idea. If a girl comes from a well-adjusted family and has been neither spoiled nor overly restricted, and her father is admirable, she will naturally be uninterested in guys who would not impress her Dad. But if the family is broken in any way (divorce, fights, substance abuse, neuroticism) or the girl has been indulged or restricted, or Dad is weak or selfish, she will start looking for emotional satisfaction with any guy who gives her something she’s missing at home.

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  401. unlearning genius … you sound like a terrible nerd. Are you? Just the way you speak is crushingly unnattractive. Can you really not vibe a little better? I find it hard to believe that any man can’t learn how to slough off a nerdy demeanour, unless you’re saddled with aspergers.

    Just how high is your IQ?

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  402. on July 30, 2010 at 1:31 pm gunslingergregi

    So really I was living the concepts of game peacocking and idn’t know it. I thought it made me look cool and apparently it did.

    When she rolled up at my house for surprize visit I wasn’t their I was out on my mission of pitting myself vs other men physically and trying to win.

    When she rolled up on me on my mission I took some time out to say hi and nice to see you but I didn’t stop my mission because of it.

    I continued on mission to win game and she left.

    Which yea we will get together when I let you know we will.

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  403. J–

    I don’t believe in affirmative action for girls in med school or anywhere else. Bhetti doesn’t need it.

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  404. @Greg

    Do you have reading issues or do you just have some sort problem that only allows you see things through the filter of your own biases?

    “You posted before how your sad that your husband makes double what you both used to earn as a couple and that you wish he didn’t have to work so hard”

    Actually, I said I ws grateful to him, but sad he had to work so hard.

    “(like a slave)”

    No, more like slavedriver. He, he. He supervises a shitload of people.

    “You said because it takes double what you made before to raise your two special ed kids.”

    I said he makes double; we could do it on less, but not in the style that we’ve all become accustomed to–which is what neither of us grew up with. I am from a working class family. My husband grew up in poverty due to the stupidity if his parents. HE wants our kids to have more than he had.

    I’ve said the kids were “admittedly special K” meaning that we have a small family, unfortunately, and that we give our kids all the advantages we can. I understand “special K” to mean that the parents have put all their eggs in one basket. I admit that we have.

    “You don’t have the empathy to fucking help your husband at least even have a good time.”

    Dude, with the exception of about four or five years, I’ve brought income into this family, while taking care of the kids and two sets of aging parents.

    “He come in and wants to fuck sweaty”

    You said he wanted fuck sweaty; he didn’t. When he asks for that or exhibits a desire to be with me when I’m dirt, we’ll talk.

    “You don’t love him. ”

    When he complains, I’ll take that comment seriously. Last nght, I threw my arms around him simultaneously and kissed him. He said, “J, you’re such a good wife.” I’m on my first marriage and it’s lasted over 20 years. When you have a comparable track record, you and I will have something to discuss.

    “So he gets to work like a slave his whole life so his woman can not work”

    Still working flex-time after a drastic hours cut.

    “and who talks about cuckholding all the fucking time.”

    Dude, I asked Polymath jokingly if sandalwood, which has a male smell, would remind a guy or cuckoldry or nhomosexujality. You toook that ball and ran in the other diredtion with it. Why are YOU so obsessed with cuckoldry? Did you ex cheat?

    “You obviously also have no fucking clue how to keep a budget..”

    Tell it to the my kids who call me cheap. A lot of what we have comes not only from his (and my) work but also because I spend wisely, shop sales, use the extra to pay down the mortgage, etc. We upgraded to our current home, which is MY HUSBAND’S DREAM HOUSE, because I hsave always made sure to build equity in our other homes. That’s called working together.

    “so that you don’t spend double”

    I didn’t say I spent it. I said he makes it. We save and invest to educate the kids and have a nice retirement.

    “so he doesn’t get completely fucked if things go south one day.”

    I expect my marriage to last until one of us dies. If not, the law would split our assets downe the middle–which would include some money that I would have totally independently of his efforts.

    “I mean you probably look down on this dude right”

    Hell no. I wouldn’t have married a man I didn’t admire. He’s an extrememly admirable guy, strong, smart, pulled himself from out of nowhere to great success, still genuinely kid of others. I love the hell out of him. I believe I’ve said so before.

    “but one of his woman was raising a kid on way the fuck less than you which probably makes her smarter than you.”

    I’m confused. Are you fantasizing that my husband has a second family somewhere?

    “Did I miss anything?”

    Yeah, reality.

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  405. @Doug 1

    “I don’t believe in affirmative action for girls in med school or anywhere else. Bhetti doesn’t need it.”

    She may not need it, but the point remains that there was a time she would have been denied entrance to med school because of her gender. There were several landmark court cases that changed that.

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  406. […] “naturally” desire men with high incomes: Es ist weniger hohes Einkommen als Status. In der Steinzeit gab es ja kein Geld. Man kann arm sein und trotzdem Status haben, aber natürlich […]

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  407. J–

    I chose 1970 for a reason.

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  408. @ Nicole

    “If two of your women are making death threats at each other, what would you do?

    Nip that shit in the bud.”

    I don’t know how this hasn’t been brought up before.

    Yes—this dude is a useless thug asswipe who contributes nothing of value to this society…but the real scandal here isn’t so much that the bitches crave his load as that his harem management skillz are so incredibly whack. There is no way in hell a man with tight Game should have his bitches literally at each others’ throats over him. No alpha needs that stress—he’s got other shit to handle. Any old school pimp could have taught him that.

    Harem management can make or break a man. A few years ago I was sleeping with 4 quality women—all of whom knew I was not exclusive with them. All with degrees, physically attractive, professionals, two from stable homes, etc. I can say without hesitation that I will never, ever do anything like it again—I was miserable. I slept about 2 nights week in my own bed, got no rest, and was perpetually late for work. After 2 months of being overworked at the office and servicing the libidos of four full-grown, insatiable women I really thought I was going to kick the bucket. If my harem management skills had been any worse the stress would have literally killed me, I have no doubt about that.

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  409. on July 30, 2010 at 1:53 pm mandy been here a while

    She may not need it, but the point remains that there was a time she would have been denied entrance to med school because of her gender. There were several landmark court cases that changed that.

    Would the world be worse off if an equally qualified man had filled her spot? If we have enough men to be competent doctors, why shoe horn women in?

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  410. @meeee!!!

    “Doug and Bhetti You two love birds are sooooo adorable! B you made my heart melt when you told D you missed him! I LOVE PEOPLE IN LOVE!!!”

    Even when the guy is simultaneouly in love with two other women?

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  411. on July 30, 2010 at 1:53 pm mandy been here a while
    She may not need it, but the point remains that there was a time she would have been denied entrance to med school because of her gender. There were several landmark court cases that changed that.

    Would the world be worse off if an equally qualified man had filled her spot? If we have enough men to be competent doctors, why shoe horn women in?

    _______

    has anyone ever looked into a drop in nurse quality/quantity since women were allowed entre into the medical field in significant numbers? seems to me DR caliber women became the best possible nurses before–who is filling their shoes now? people with 1 SD lower iqs?

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  412. J

    Could you give specifics regarding the law that kept women out of Medical Training? Any details regarding the Court Case would be nice,
    I assume you are referring to the USA in modern times.

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  413. i think it was more that law FORCED the medical profession to allow women into de facto all male med schools–not that the law forbade women from becoming drs?

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  414. J–

    Even when the guy is simultaneouly in love with two other women?

    One other. The third is a summer weekend playmate for both of us, who will move on.

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  415. […] Fed’s bill of rights From GBFM: your daughter shall have the right 2 be assocked by thugmen of her […]

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  416. @Greg

    “…because he only had high school those woman actually loved him.”

    Wow, you think anyone in that story was capable of real love? Amazing! Love =/=; it can however co-exist with it.

    “I used to spend 10k in 2 weeks every time I saw my woman.”

    That’s wild. I’ve never asked my husband to spend a large amount of money that didn’t benefit the whole family.

    “I enjoy spending money as well. I like staying in expensive hotels I like eating good food. I like exploring.”

    So basically you spent the money on you, including the fun/price of having a companion.

    “That is not the test of whether she loves me though… So yea now I spend 600 a month and she still treats me the same. ”

    Perhaps she’s waiting for the 10K days to return. Or fatasizing about a nice stable executive. Hmmm…..I wonder what my husband’s other kid like? Maybe like yours?

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  417. Dang, Dragnet! Four?

    Cyber salute for surviving as long as you did. You say you wouldn’t do it again, but just in case that’s the hangover talking, harem selection is part of good harem management.

    “Ya hafta coordinate.” Four insatiable women is too many. With a high sex drive, you might be able to handle one or two of this type, and the rest should be low drive feminine. The feminine ones might turn insatiable with the right inspiration though. Something about competition gets women’s engines going.

    So maybe one low maintenance tomboy who doesn’t need a lot of face time, one stern type who melts for you and enjoys a bit of push and pull so you can make your absences count, one super nurturing one who likes to shag but also likes to see you get a good meal and a good night’s sleep, and one gregarious one for social props.

    I don’t know the types you like specifically, but having too many of the same type of woman seems more draining than a variety. If they all want the same thing all the time, you’re spreading limited resources too thin. If they all want something different from you then you get to flex all your personality “muscles” instead of just a partial set.

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  418. on July 30, 2010 at 2:22 pm mandy been here a while

    Interesting point Dana, we might be losing qualified “pink collar” workers to higher status jobs. It would be an overall loss for society then if that is the case.

    In related news, the feral women of the UK are engaging in the same shanangans(stopped short of murder though) as the class acts mentioned here:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1298849/Teenager-Georgia-Fenn-tortured-18-hours-pictured-sadistic-attacker.html

    Poor, poor sweethearts. Society did them wrong.

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  419. Mandy, I read about that. Sick ass bitches.

    I can see doing something on the spot in a rage. It’s stupid and criminal, but it’s an outburst. A person can be stupid, but doesn’t really need to be particularly sick for it.

    Kidnapping someone and torturing them is way, way over the top. They should’ve thrown those girls under the jail.

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  420. Rum,

    You can do your research if you are interested, otherwise we’ll be playing dueling sources all day. You know, I cite a source, you disbbelieve and show me a different source. It’ll be a waste of both our time.

    Prior to the 1970s, it was common for women to be turned down by medical and law schools because it was believe that they were there to find professional husbands, would have kids and never practice, etc. The mother of a friend of mine was the first woman to graduate from her law school. She would be in her 80s now if she were still alive. She started law school when her kids stated grade school in the late fifties or early sixties. Her husband, a noted lawyer himself, threatened suit if she was denied admission because she had kids. She already held a college degree, obviously, and a Phi Beta Kappa key.

    He went on to argue other cases in front of the Supreme Court, and she was famous as the power behind the throne. He was a great litagator, and she was a great scholar and researcher. They were quite a team!

    A rash of cases similar to what he threatened swept the courts in he 60s and 70s. The weirdest one I ever heard of was against Soutrhern Bell and involved a woman who wanted to be a phone line repair person. The company held that she was too weak to carry the 30 pound tool kit. The case was fought by a woman lawyer. She delivered her final summation while carrying her toddler whom she weighed during her speech. The kid weighed 32 pounds and the lawyer won. I believe that case was in the early 70s.

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  421. Dana, do you speak any Hungarian?
    What it comes to medschool and women, i believe they can make their beneficial place.
    As an example at a gyn clinic i am well familiar with, they need a lot of people to work but not everyone will be qualified to perform certain tasks, and that is how it should be, no matter if you are a women or man, if you don’t hold the standards, you will ultimately given a less challenging tasks in your field helping out at the clinic up to your ability, and the more talented ones will be put on the more important tasks, no regards if you are a woman or man, some women can do it equally good, still if we take surgery for instance, i believe its completely a male profession where perhaps a few women can be equally professional, and the few that are, have to sacrifice family and private life though.

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  422. @Doug1

    “I chose 1970 for a reason.”

    LOL. You sure did! Where it benefitted you and yours!!

    Seruously, Doug, while I know you see me as some sort of ultra-feminist, it’s main value to me was as a opener of careers for woman. I don’t see the “feminist conspiracy” as operating in society that way you guys do, but as I’ve said before, I’m a traditionalist in many ways.

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  423. on July 30, 2010 at 2:43 pm mandy been here a while

    J

    You’ll never convince me that more lawyers of any stripe are better for society 🙂

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  424. on July 30, 2010 at 2:49 pm mandy been here a while

    The weirdest one I ever heard of was against Soutrhern Bell and involved a woman who wanted to be a phone line repair person. The company held that she was too weak to carry the 30 pound tool kit. The case was fought by a woman lawyer. She delivered her final summation while carrying her toddler whom she weighed during her speech. The kid weighed 32 pounds and the lawyer won. I believe that case was in the early 70s.

    See, you make her sound like a hero but here’s the deal: IF there were plenty of men to fill the position, and she merely “wanted” to do this job for whatever self-interested reason, was it really beneficial to society that she wracked up thousands of dollars in legal bill/court fees and wasted a lot of time to get a job that already had people willing to fill it?

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  425. @ mandy

    God those bitches are sick. Though I think I would’ve probably fucked Lucy Viner-Mood I’d had gotten ahold of her before all this sadism and whatnot.

    Cue the manginas & feminist shitheads finding some way to blame this on the ex-boyfriend.

    Puts into perspective this shift to close all womens’ prisons in the UK, doesn’t it?

    http://www.womensenews.org/story/incarceration/070318/pressure-builds-close-uk-womens-prisons

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  426. @Greg

    “I want j to wake up and suck and swallow the load from her sweaty husbands dick. He sounds like he deserves it.”

    Dude, HE’S not complaining. YOU are complaining about some sexual deprivation that YOU fantasize he’s undergoing. As I’ve said to Dalrock and Polymath a while back, I think denying a spouse is cruel for the denied as well as frusrtating to the denier.

    BTW, his tastes are not necessarily tastes. If I did eat a month’s worth of crud off him, he probably wouldn’t kiss me for another month. Do me a favor. Let me satisfy his tastes and not yours.

    Besides, if licking a month’s worth of crap off a guy is the ultimate sign of love, where IS your ex? Licking two months worth off of someone else???

    “She needs to put the kids in babysitting”

    They are too old for that and are starting to spend more time away from home. Which is good for me and the husband….

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  427. on July 30, 2010 at 3:02 pm namae nanka

    and was there any law against starting women’s only colleges that would accept these women? bleh whatever.

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  428. “has anyone ever looked into a drop in nurse quality/quantity since women were allowed entre into the medical field in significant numbers? seems to me DR caliber women became the best possible nurses before–who is filling their shoes now? people with 1 SD lower iqs?”

    Interesting that you’d ask that. My mom just got out of the hospital and about half of her nurses were men. It looks to me like there’s been a shift so that drive and IQ, not gender, are the major decisors influencing who becomes a nurse. The male nurses seemed bright enough, but not as bright the average doctor. They also seemed more laid back, like they wanted to do something medical, but didn’t want to spend more than four years in college, work a doctor’s hours, etc.

    In th ICU, it looked like the male nurses gravitated to the tech stuff, like watching the monitors, while the women still the bulk of the cares.

    I’ve also know male psych nurses who were former army medics, but didn’t want to go to med school for various reasons.

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  429. @mandy

    “IF there were plenty of men to fill the position, and she merely “wanted” to do this job for whatever self-interested reason, was it really beneficial to society that she wracked up thousands of dollars in legal bill/court fees and wasted a lot of time to get a job that already had people willing to fill it?”

    Maybe she needed the job. Maybe she had kids and no husband. Maybe her husband wanted a second income. I don’t recall ever having known the particulars.

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  430. J–

    Seruously, Doug, while I know you see me as some sort of ultra-feminist, it’s main value to me was as a opener of careers for woman. I don’t see the “feminist conspiracy” as operating in society that way you guys do, but as I’ve said before, I’m a traditionalist in many ways.

    I chose 1970 off the top of my head w/out researching it because by the end of the sixties it was well established mostly in law and certainly in media and other elite culture that women should be able to enter any career and compete in it. Which I favor.

    What began around 1970 was the push towards affirmative action for women, for women to be first well and then totally equally represented in every DESIREABLE for women or powerful career. That I very much don’t agree with. I don’t agree with the current push against the so called glass ceiling, to have equal or nearly equal numbers of female CEOs and high executives, or corporate directors. I don’t agree with the “diversity” push or creed whatsoever.

    I don’t want further leveling in the income disparity between men and women — I’m quite sure that will help in family stability and reduce the now 50% American divorce rate. I want it to grow back to more unequal levels. I want salaries for women to fully rather than only partly reflect the fewer hours they work when married and their tendency to take a whole lot more personal time or sick days due to family responsibilities, and so on. Carly Fiorina as a shiite CEO with bad judgment who got her spot heavily due to PC pressures at Hewlett Packard, which considers itself a progressive company. I want those pressures to END.

    I’m for letting exceptional and able women rise but not for a social push that they do so. Larry Summers was right in all he said at that Harvard meeting about the more narrow spread of girls on the IQ bell curve esp. but not only in math (meaning fewer really, really bright women, but also fewer really dumb ones). He was also right that men at elite institutions and in science labs are willing to work longer and harder hours.

    The whole idea that we need to socially engineer equality is wrong. Instead we should remove socially dysfunctional barriers applying to women and to blacks and other minorities. That was essentially done by 1970. Any further work in that vein since then I’m in favor of. But none in the vein of working to artificially and quickly equalize, or in fact see women do better, in all the attractive areas that were traditionally men’s areas to lead in.

    I’d rather see more of a social push that women emphasize mothering and also a social push that women shouldn’t divorce nearly so much as they do, when they have children at home.

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  431. J–

    btw I don’t see you as ultra feminist but rather as mainstream feminist or post feminist. You do seem to be a good mother and wife, who also has worked during much of her marriage, and I honor those things.

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  432. @ J

    “If I did eat a month’s worth of crud off him, he probably wouldn’t kiss me for another month.”

    What in God’s name are you talking about here? To clarify, Gregi was referencing the act of you swallowing your man’s semen after he ejaculates in your mouth post-fellatio. What does eating “crud off him” have to do with it?

    Have you ever given a blowjob? Or swallowed cum? What year were you born?? And sweet Jesus tell me your man wouldn’t refuse to kiss you after you swallowed his load—that’s just wrong.

    I’m confused now.

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  433. J–

    Maybe she had kids and no husband.

    Maybe she shouldn’t have kids and no husband, either due to having oops kids without a committed mate, or due to a divorce she initiated for no compelling reason.

    And no I don’t regard a little male cheating when the man still loves his wife and family and attends to her, or wants to, a compelling reason. That is something I hate first wave feminists for making the moral and legal stance in this country, unlike before them.

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  434. on July 30, 2010 at 3:34 pm gunslingergregi

    ””””’mandy been here a while
    J

    You’ll never convince me that more lawyers of any stripe are better for society 🙂
    ”””’
    I have missed your comments a little he he he

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  435. @dragnet

    “I’m confused now.”

    I see that–and rightfully so.

    The eating a “month’s worth of crud” reference goes back several threads to Greg’s bragging that his ex did just that to him and my stating my preference for cleanliness in a man. The details of my sex life were not discussed. Further speculation on Greg’s part about what I do with my husband are just that…speculation. And will remain so.

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  436. J–

    I don’t see the “feminist conspiracy” as operating in society that way you guys do, but as I’ve said before, I’m a traditionalist in many ways.

    That’s because you aren’t negatively affected by it and don’t look. You’re positively affected. Also it’s not really a conspiracy. It’s not hidden.

    I would think you’d have more concern for the emasculating effects of schools and the media on your sons though.

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  437. women leaving tradition female fields like nursing and teaching to displace men from their traditional fields not only lowered the value of male labor significantly but left a vacuum in skilled FEMALE labor to be filled by lower quality females who couldn’t make the leap up to steal mens jobs

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  438. on July 30, 2010 at 3:52 pm namae nanka

    “Interesting that you’d ask that. My mom just got out of the hospital and about half of her nurses were men. It looks to me like there’s been a shift so that drive and IQ, not gender, are the major decisors influencing who becomes a nurse. ”

    haha, yep gender doesn’t influence who becomes a nurse, but it sure decides something:

    “The gender of the worker was one of the most important characteristics by which absenteeism rates differed.”

    http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.com/index.cfm?PgNm=TCE&Params=M1ARTM0013191

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  439. on July 30, 2010 at 3:54 pm mandy been here a while

    women leaving tradition female fields like nursing and teaching to displace men from their traditional fields not only lowered the value of male labor significantly but left a vacuum in skilled FEMALE labor to be filled by lower quality females who couldn’t make the leap up to steal mens jobs

    This kind of the same reasoning as the fact that immigration to the West keeps the third world poor. For the countries that send the most educated locals abroad(India, Iran, parts of Africa), that leaves mostly the dregs that couldn’t make it behind.

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  440. J–

    The weirdest one I ever heard of was against Soutrhern Bell and involved a woman who wanted to be a phone line repair person. The company held that she was too weak to carry the 30 pound tool kit. The case was fought by a woman lawyer. She delivered her final summation while carrying her toddler whom she weighed during her speech. The kid weighed 32 pounds and the lawyer won. I believe that case was in the early 70s.

    That case, or at least the way you described it, involved showing that women could do the job just as well, or at least some women could.

    Now under EEOC “disparate impact” rules if women fail a firefighter’s physical strength test a whole lot more than men do, the test has to be thrown out as discriminatory. Yet hauling around firehoses when weighed down by heavy firefighting suits, helmets and tools takes a lot of strength.

    Why should companies be compelled to give paid pregnancy leave to women, and hire them back whenever they want to come back. If she’s a valued enough employee they’ll hire her back w/out being compelled to. If she isn’t why should she get that bit of feminist socialism, which male and unmarried female employees or would be employees are compelled to pay for.

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  441. there ar eother examples

    before civil rights when blacks were restricted in where they could live black neighborhoods were of very mixed iq levels, the black DR, lawyer and teacher lived in the same neighborhood as tyrone the junkie–they were the anchors

    as we creamed the black neighborhoods for iq and they were able to move around more freely we got left with the bomed out ghettos we see now

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  442. @ Doug @ 3:28

    I’m going to try to be be brief because I’ve really spent too much time here today and need to cook dinner and get ready for the week-end.

    My primary interest in college feminism was careerist in nature. I was never one of the “A woman without a man is like a fish w/o a bicycle types.” That’s a hard position for a straight woman to maintain.

    I believe in meritocracy, not affirmative action–but that includes recognizing women of merit equally, based on their contributions and w/o prejudice.

    I thnk everyone should be free to make as much money as they want or can. I thinks it’s a pity when economics is what holds a marriage together. If I were a man, I’d want to know I was more than just a paycheck to my wife.

    I hate to see people with kids get divorced for personal reasons I’ve previously discussed here. A while back I felt really upset by “gray” or “silver” divorces and the idea that frivilous divorce can be contagious. Lately, since Al Gore got caught cheating and some of what I thought were great marriages in my own neck of the woods turning out not to be as great as I thought, I’ve relaxed. People can do whatever as long as doesn’t affect kids.

    I’m pro-parenting.

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  443. Btw, guys with a height issue probably felt a little better after reading this. This guy is 5′ 5″ but he didn’t give a fuck and had these two chicks going psycho over him.

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  444. on July 30, 2010 at 4:08 pm mandy been here a while

    @dana

    I hadn’t heard about that before.
    Unintended consequences and feedback loops are strange things. You know what they say about good intentions….

    @j

    Whatever the particulars of that case, such litigation had a huge effect on everyone else.

    Do you think society is better off with more women entering traditionally male professions? If so why? bearing up(and thereby encouraging more) single mothers or a woman’s personal fulfillment just don’t cut it for me.

    I’ve yet to hear a compelling argument but I’d be interested.

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  445. @Doug

    “btw I don’t see you as ultra feminist but rather as mainstream feminist or post feminist.”

    Post-feminist? Like the Jezzies? NO.

    “You do seem to be a good mother and wife, who also has worked during much of her marriage, and I honor those things.”

    Thanks.

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  446. on July 30, 2010 at 4:26 pm gunslingergregi

    ””””’Doug1
    J–

    I don’t believe in affirmative action for girls in med school or anywhere else. Bhetti doesn’t need it.
    ”””’
    She is 120 iq are you joking?

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  447. @ namae

    Just read the Canadian doctor shortage. What’s incredible is that the solution is staring them in the face—incentivize more young men to go to medical school—but will almost assuredly be dismissed out of hand as patriarchal oppression.

    The likely solution will probably be something much more expensive and largely ineffective, like attempting to browbeat men into becoming stay-at-home dads, mandating lengthy paternity leave, or creating a state-sponsored nanny industry to parent children from the cradle to the campus.

    Civilizations thrive because they exploit gender differences, not try to erase them. I’ll never understand why we think it’s a great idea to spend billions to incentivizing women to do shit men are biologically predisposed to do anyhow.

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  448. additional point

    as women enter any field men it loses prestige and men lose interest in it

    men don’t gain status by competing with girls

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  449. @Doug

    Feminism as I perceive it has benefitted me, however, I haven’t called myself a feminist since the late 70s. It just isn’t personally relevant to me at this point. I’m not career-building; I’m coasting toward retirement. To tell you the truth, it’s not something most people I know think about much. If I want to hear about feminism, I read this blog or Jezebel, where feminism seems to have something to do with fun, fashion and having your cervix cauterized to prevent your HPV infection from turning into cervical cancer. This ain’t what I remember as feminism.

    “I would think you’d have more concern for the emasculating effects of schools and the media on your sons though.”

    I guess I don’t see that happening in my life. My younger kid is a lot like my husband–very sigma. I tend to see them both as sort of invulnerable.

    The older boy’s personalilty is less sigma-like, but he has a lot of character and inner strength. He’s not a crowd follower, so I don’t see him as acting against his own values. He tends to be politely non-compliant in school, so I worry about grades (though not actual achievement). Some of his worst experiences are with male teachers who want him to tow the line. His woman teachers find him charming and brilliant and cut him too much slack.

    I do agree thought that the busy work and sitting still in schools is hard for some boys. It can be a girly environment. My son wanted to go to a private boys school out of town, where I think he would have flourished. My husband wanted him home and wouldn’t let him go. We’ll see how that unfolds.

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  450. @ Doug

    “And no I don’t regard a little male cheating when the man still loves his wife and family and attends to her, or wants to, a compelling reason. That is something I hate first wave feminists for making the moral and legal stance in this country, unlike before them.”

    Well, we are never going to agree on that one. Infidelity would be a dealbreaker in my marriage.

    I think you’re wrong about first wave feminism initiating discontent with male infidelity. I grew up on stories about women tolerating cheating “back in the old country” until they got so angry that that they cut the husband’s penis and fed it to his lover disguised as some other food. Talk about swallowing!!

    And now, a pot roast is calling my name. have a good week-end.

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  451. on July 30, 2010 at 4:39 pm namae nanka

    “women leaving tradition female fields like nursing and teaching to displace men from their traditional fields not only lowered the value of male labor significantly but left a vacuum in skilled FEMALE labor to be filled by lower quality females who couldn’t make the leap up to steal mens jobs”

    teaching is still a male-dominated field iirc, especially in higher levels.

    “This kind of the same reasoning as the fact that immigration to the West keeps the third world poor. For the countries that send the most educated locals abroad(India, Iran, parts of Africa), that leaves mostly the dregs that couldn’t make it behind.”

    But the reasoning is naive, the third world is poor because the majority doesn’t create wealth, the high IQ guys need opportunities, they were not present earlier, they are present now.(india)

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  452. on July 30, 2010 at 4:44 pm namae nanka

    dragnet

    “What’s incredible is that the solution is staring them in the face—incentivize more young men to go to medical school—but will almost assuredly be dismissed out of hand as patriarchal oppression.”

    heh society’s expectations killing the work-drive of highly motivated females, need more provisions for child care.

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  453. on July 30, 2010 at 4:50 pm gunslingergregi

    bictopia
    Gun.
    You are actually spot on, i have problem to really make a difference but then no problem to feel things are messed up, i can be there for people that are similar to me, but how to help those that i have nothing in common with?
    That is why i told it is like neurology, neurology can make the perfect diagnosis of an incurable disease but unfortunately they have no cure, so what is the benefit of knowing then? Compared to a disease you can fix or living a life without staring the truth in the eye.

    ”””””””””
    Well what I have done is try to put myself in others shoes and see how to beat system. What I have found is pretty much anyone can do it with some motivation. I lived a lot of diferent lifestyles. About thing I am missing is completely homeless. But yea I did run away in 4th grade or so and was downtown on the street for a night lol
    But yea so you can empathize and such but you must live your life in the reality of life and prove that you can achieve what you want out of life and achieve the opposite of what you feel bad for people for. Like people who can’t find love I found it being a chubby dude he he he
    Or money I didn’t go to college but did figure out how to beat game saving money.
    Or people who blame someone else for keeping them down. Which I have had a lot of excuses I could have used but still win.
    It has always kind of bothered me that the shit that happens to other people doesn’t tend to happen to me.
    But yea my dad getting divorced definetly fucked me up because I was like sympathizing with the dude and wondering how life could possibly be that fucked up in the us. Because how can you mitigate that?
    Where I moved I have noticed that I don’t feel bad for the people because even the poor have dignity. They are not looked at as subhuman by other people like the rich or middle class they are understood to be the same type of human being as everyone else. It is almost like where I live now people actually believe in a god that will be asking them some questions when they die. Not just because of some enforced legislation. But yea it is interesting.
    So you have to kind of understand that the us is kind of an articicial place because some are given benefits but you can still beat the system if you are willing to work hard and save money. So yea you beat system in your way then you can try to advise others in a way that they could beat it.
    Find out what you internally want out of life. Be honest with yourself do not lie and you will be able to achieve it by putting you entire mind body and soul towards the objective. So yea basically live life too not just be paralyzed with empathy he he he
    Break the fuck out.
    But yea looks like you are doing.
    Your a cutie hopefully you find your way

    third time charm hopefully internet could use some speeding up he he he
    One of drawbacks I suppose.

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  454. on July 30, 2010 at 5:04 pm namae nanka

    “I grew up on stories about women tolerating cheating “back in the old country” until they got so angry that that they cut the husband’s penis and fed it to his lover disguised as some other food. Talk about swallowing!!”

    damn, that explains a lot. have a nice weekend J.

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  455. on July 30, 2010 at 5:09 pm mandy been here a while

    But the reasoning is naive, the third world is poor because the majority doesn’t create wealth, the high IQ guys need opportunities, they were not present earlier, they are present now.(india)

    Yeah, most of these backwaters would never be wealthy nations to begin with but they might be a little better off. But places like Iran and India have a fighting chance (given their history & genetics.) Although Islam stops Iran in its tracts.

    Ecudaor for example, has big problem with brain drain and is much poorer than its genetically similar neighbors Peru and Colombia (although the reasons are complicated and related to local history and politics so ,yeah stopping educated Ecuadoreans from leaving wouldn’t fix it totally.)

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  456. on July 30, 2010 at 5:14 pm gunslingergregi

    ””””””’dragnet
    @ Nicole

    “If two of your women are making death threats at each other, what would you do?

    Nip that shit in the bud.”

    I don’t know how this hasn’t been brought up before.

    Yes—this dude is a useless thug asswipe who contributes nothing of value to this society…but the real scandal here isn’t so much that the bitches crave his load as that his harem management skillz are so incredibly whack. There is no way in hell a man with tight Game should have his bitches literally at each others’ throats over him. No alpha needs that stress—he’s got other shit to handle. Any old school pimp could have taught him that.

    Harem management can make or break a man. A few years ago I was sleeping with 4 quality women—all of whom knew I was not exclusive with them. All with degrees, physically attractive, professionals, two from stable homes, etc. I can say without hesitation that I will never, ever do anything like it again—I was miserable. I slept about 2 nights week in my own bed, got no rest, and was perpetually late for work. After 2 months of being overworked at the office and servicing the libidos of four full-grown, insatiable women I really thought I was going to kick the bucket. If my harem management skills had been any worse the stress would have literally killed me, I have no doubt about that.
    ”””””””””””
    lol dragnet that is why I am willing to sacrifice my own health and happiness for the children that come from those woman. But yea I am gonna try to just focus on the woman and fucking and guiding the raising of children aspect. Let the woman handle the money management aspect. I will have to do another work push though to get to where it is really feasable.
    Goal is to have a shitload of them and then raise the kids to be supermen and woman and work together to create something of value long after gunz is gone and of course ya know a nice monument to me in the backyard wouldn’t be bad either.
    But yea harem management requires full time per unit of harem. So you got to be like week on week off or something I think to keep sanity or so. But yea got to have some balls of steel to make it work. Hopefully I am up to task. Only time will tell. I think the kids deserve a proper education though about all areas of life and should be given the opportunity and toolset to be free.

    ””””dragnet
    @ J

    “If I did eat a month’s worth of crud off him, he probably wouldn’t kiss me for another month.”

    What in God’s name are you talking about here? To clarify, Gregi was referencing the act of you swallowing your man’s semen after he ejaculates in your mouth post-fellatio. What does eating “crud off him” have to do with it?

    Have you ever given a blowjob? Or swallowed cum? What year were you born?? And sweet Jesus tell me your man wouldn’t refuse to kiss you after you swallowed his load—that’s just wrong.

    I’m confused now.
    ”””””’

    I was in the field for like a 30 day excercise in army. We had run out of oil and the idiots said to just run the shit till it broke. I guess good training though changed out like 15 packs on fucking m113’s then transmissions on freaking 60 class tanks then fucking one dude got hit in nuts with sledgehammer one sarg got hit in shin with the spindle of a 60 class pack engine. It was a living hell but yet felt good at same time. We worked mad hours and everyone was getting fucking hurt because prob lack of sleep. Then I get home and my wife meets me at door throws my bags out of my hands and sucks me off at the door. It was quite a memorable moment in my life. But yea probably not to clean since water not in quantity. But she probably did feel some serious manhood walk in the door he he he

    But yea j was like before that when her man walked in from working outside she makes him go take a shower before any sex. So I was saying that is wrong she should tell him he can take that pussy anytime.

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  457. Dumb white sluts go ga-ga for dysgenic mongrel thug who gives AIDS to all of them. Change the record.

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  458. on July 30, 2010 at 6:20 pm gunslingergregi

    ”””’namae nanka
    and was there any law against starting women’s only colleges that would accept these women? bleh whatever.
    ”””””
    Yea one of my old females relatives started one many many moons ago dam bitch. She was a nun like her mother and her mother before her.
    he he he

    Think about this how many woman today could do that with all the pampering they recieve?
    We have made them weak.
    And taken away there freedom to fail.

    When my sister wanted to be bigtime she didn’t have kids and did it. Sacrifices are a bitch.

    ””””””””’namae nanka
    dragnet

    “What’s incredible is that the solution is staring them in the face—incentivize more young men to go to medical school—but will almost assuredly be dismissed out of hand as patriarchal oppression.”

    heh society’s expectations killing the work-drive of highly motivated females, need more provisions for child care.
    ”””””””’
    Yea my whole fucking family line is above 120 iq. Except me maybe but yea.

    My phillipino buddies family all are supposed to become doctors from birth he he he
    Yea so far he didn’t but his brother did.
    one sister did.
    One sister still on ropes.
    None of them over 120 iq lol

    But yea you can push your kids into things.
    My family motto is you can do whatever you want.
    The only thing is who the fuck knows as a child what is best for them.
    But yea why I am gonna push my kids towards a goal of retirement at young age so they will still have time to actually do whatever the fuck they want with their lives after they are free to actually make the descision and have the resources to freely do so.

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  459. In my part of the world, females historically were about 10% of Med School classes ever since there were real Med Schools – which actually date back less than a 100 years. Starting in the mid 70s, the percent jumped to 50% fairly abruptly, mainly because of affirmative admissions and massive encouragement of females to apply.

    IOWs, J is a shit-filled idiot.

    By the way, the influx of women into Medicine has been great for male Drs. Since they work about 1/2 as much time working as the guy they displaced, the resulting shortage allows us to raise our fees.
    Amen.

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  460. on July 30, 2010 at 6:55 pm paultheking

    Great post.

    We could all learn from this guy

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  461. Gunny: I’ve consistently gotten results that’re top of my class. I’m not a genius but I seem to be pretty good at this. The only thing that has ever hindered me is not being Miss Confidence in certain situations. My albatross.

    J: Whilst I don’t support the idea of cheating as a social norm, I definitely dislike the idea of cheating as a dealbreaker. The irony is that it is particularly should not be one in your case. You presumably married a man who has good values and honour. If he is so torn, so conflicted, that he has cheated, perhaps it would be better if you sat down and considered exactly what happened, that you both somehow messed up the relationship, instead of instantly breaking your family and blaming that completely on him.

    From what I’ve read, I get the impression that most married men cheat if they have to choose between cheating, or leaving their relationship completely, once they feel they have exhausted all options. Its usually related to the absence of sex and intimacy, though the absence of these encompass many issues.

    You can roughly predict the other types who would cheat just because they can.

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  462. bhetti

    dont you think the fact that you haven’t actually had a “committed” sexual relationship with a man (unless that’s changed)makes your belief that infidelity wouldn’t or shouldn’t be a deal breaker a little silly?

    i mean, it may end up being true for you–who am i to say, but i’d like to hear you say that after youve lived with and loved a man for years and discover he’s had a secret life of some kind, even if you discover you don’t mind the fact that he stuck his dick in another woman–the sense betrayal is incomparable

    everything is great in theory

    this is one area where i disagree with a lot here, particularly doug, why on earth should women be “good girls” and high quality and treat you men with the respect and honor you deserve AND just “accept” you are going to cheat on them no matter what and they just have to take it. there was no traditional high civilization culture where it was like that. only marriages of convenience among the moneyed classes have EVER been like that on a regular basis. even if all men DID cheat they hid it really well and their wives were very innocent and didn’t even imagine it on a regular basis, especially when people were really really religious in the past–which they WERE despite all revisionist attempts to the contrary–they REALLY believed god watched their every move.

    if you are going to insist on non-monogamy you’re going to breed a culture of whores. one of the main excuses women use to rationalize their own cheating is the meme thats been drummed into their heads “all men cheat, all men cheat” , so they figure they might as well. this meme denigrates men and strips themof their worht, men are the only sex truly capable of honor, integrity, loyalty and fidelity–why spend so much time convincing the women who you want to respect serve and love you otherwise?

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  463. dana,
    You have a point. I bet the women who are more accepting of infidelity are also the ones more likely to cheat themselves. (with some exceptions of course)

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  464. When guys are living their best selves they conjure a meme of fidelity in love. In other words, the best it can get for a guy is to be in a committed, exclusive ltr with a woman that wants to keep up with him in the natural flow of lust/daily fucking/etc.
    If that were ever a possibilty, most guys would run thru machine-fire for the sake of it.

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  465. machine-gun-fire

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  466. on July 30, 2010 at 9:47 pm gunslingergregi

    1.
    ”””””””J
    @Greg
    Do you have reading issues or do you just have some sort problem that only allows you see things through the filter of your own biases?”””””””””’

    No reading issues. I am extremely perceptive. My filter is for truth.

    ””””””””’“You posted before how your sad that your husband makes double what you both used to earn as a couple and that you wish he didn’t have to work so hard”
    Actually, I said I ws grateful to him, but sad he had to work so hard.
    “(like a slave)”
    No, more like slavedriver. He, he. He supervises a shitload of people.””””””””’

    In this day and age because of feminism and other things the supervisor is the slave in business. Any female under him can have him fired on a whim. The supervisors power is that of a small child overseeing murderers.

    ”””””””””’“You said because it takes double what you made before to raise your two special ed kids.”
    I said he makes double; we could do it on less, but not in the style that we’ve all become accustomed to–which is what neither of us grew up with. I am from a working class family. My husband grew up in poverty due to the stupidity if his parents. HE wants our kids to have more than he had. ””””””””””””
    Maybe you could do some reading up on what young men need to learn in order to succeed in this new society of woman’s empowerment. Have you looked at the future of men in us it is bleak. Unless you do work that females don’t. Which is also what tends to create wealth.
    ””””””””’I’ve said the kids were “admittedly special K” meaning that we have a small family, unfortunately, and that we give our kids all the advantages we can. I understand “special K” to mean that the parents have put all their eggs in one basket. I admit that we have.”””””””””””””””’
    What advantages are they getting? Have you had them learn multiple trades so they can work with their hands as well as school or have they been going to regular college curriculum school like every other person?
    ”””””””””””’“You don’t have the empathy to fucking help your husband at least even have a good time.”
    Dude, with the exception of about four or five years, I’ve brought income into this family, while taking care of the kids and two sets of aging parents.
    “He come in and wants to fuck sweaty”
    You said he wanted fuck sweaty; he didn’t. When he asks for that or exhibits a desire to be with me when I’m dirt, we’ll talk.””””””””’
    apparently he did exhibit a desire to get freaky with you after he came in from some work outside but you forgot the passion and told him to take a shower he he he
    It cannot always be exactly equal in a relationship. If it is tit for tat then how much money do you owe him?
    “You don’t love him. ”
    When he complains, I’ll take that comment seriously. Last nght, I threw my arms around him simultaneously and kissed him. He said, “J, you’re such a good wife.” I’m on my first marriage and it’s lasted over 20 years. When you have a comparable track record, you and I will have something to discuss.
    “So he gets to work like a slave his whole life so his woman can not work”
    Still working flex-time after a drastic hours cut.
    ””””””””’“and who talks about cuckholding all the fucking time.”
    Dude, I asked Polymath jokingly if sandalwood, which has a male smell, would remind a guy or cuckoldry or nhomosexujality. You toook that ball and ran in the other diredtion with it. Why are YOU so obsessed with cuckoldry? Did you ex cheat?””””””’
    This is where my awesome reading comprehension comes into play and my amazing perception. I just get a feeling like you have something to get off your chest on that cuckold. Every time it is mentioned you have responded. Not just once. You also bring it up out of nowhere. Yea 3 years after I told my wife to leave she did. I did it for her benefit when she didn’t live up to marriage vow of working to save money. She knew before we were married that I was not gonna beta up and work my ass off for life just to have some crap house and some crap cars and support a family because I also would like to enjoy my life as well not just work so a woman can enjoy hers.
    ”””””””’“You obviously also have no fucking clue how to keep a budget..”
    Tell it to the my kids who call me cheap. A lot of what we have comes not only from his (and my) work but also because I spend wisely, shop sales, use the extra to pay down the mortgage, etc. We upgraded to our current home, which is MY HUSBAND’S DREAM HOUSE, because I hsave always made sure to build equity in our other homes. That’s called working together.””””””””””
    So your kids call you cheap but yet your putting all your eggs in one basket and not spending money on your children s learning? I am now very confused. Why is a house the biggest thing and not your children?
    ””””””””“so that you don’t spend double”
    I didn’t say I spent it. I said he makes it. We save and invest to educate the kids and have a nice retirement.”””””””””
    So why do kids call you cheap. But yea ok so you have money for retirement. When do you plan on retiring?
    ””””””””’“so he doesn’t get completely fucked if things go south one day.”
    I expect my marriage to last until one of us dies. If not, the law would split our assets downe the middle–which would include some money that I would have totally independently of his efforts.””””””’
    On one point you say it needs to be equal then on here you have some independent money of his effort but yet he works and make double what you and he used to make. So I would think you would have already given him that independent money because if you believe in equality you owe him it and more.
    “I mean you probably look down on this dude right”
    Hell no. I wouldn’t have married a man I didn’t admire. He’s an extrememly admirable guy, strong, smart, pulled himself from out of nowhere to great success, still genuinely kid of others. I love the hell out of him. I believe I’ve said so before.
    “but one of his woman was raising a kid on way the fuck less than you which probably makes her smarter than you.”
    I’m confused. Are you fantasizing that my husband has a second family somewhere?
    ”””””””“Did I miss anything?”
    Yeah, reality.””””””””””””””
    Or how bout this Freudian slip
    ”””””still genuinely kid of others.””””””’
    Let it out it is weighing down your soul.

    1.
    ”””””””J
    @Greg
    “…because he only had high school those woman actually loved him.”
    Wow, you think anyone in that story was capable of real love? Amazing! Love =/=; it can however co-exist with it.””””””””””””””’
    Yes I do because I think all people are human beings and capable of love not just people with money or who have jobs or quality woman. Everyone can love.
    ””””””“I used to spend 10k in 2 weeks every time I saw my woman.”
    That’s wild. I’ve never asked my husband to spend a large amount of money that didn’t benefit the whole family.””””””
    Well yea you got to enjoy life too and know what it is like to be rich to see if it might be worth it.
    ”””””””””“I enjoy spending money as well. I like staying in expensive hotels I like eating good food. I like exploring.”
    So basically you spent the money on you, including the fun/price of having a companion.”””””””””””””
    Well yea otherwise why would I have done it. But also wanted to show my woman a good time. I wanted to see what my dad talked about and also to know myself what it was like to stay in almost every hotel. I would switch em up. And yea learned a lot. Enjoy myself too and save money for shit. That is what budgeting is about. So I made 120k per year but spent 500 per month on myself. Then had money to go on crazy vacations that most people don’t get to do.
    ””””””””””’“That is not the test of whether she loves me though… So yea now I spend 600 a month and she still treats me the same. ”
    Perhaps she’s waiting for the 10K days to return. Or fatasizing about a nice stable executive. Hmmm…..I wonder what my husband’s other kid like? Maybe like yours?””””””””””’
    Well people on this blog very adamantly advised against what I did because it wouldn’t work out but my inner soul told me to do it because I had to test her to try to see if their was a good woman on the planet and there is. My dad only lasted a month before he couldn’t take my womanizing but my wife is a rock that I lay my head upon. The bible sums her up best. And she dreams of me in her sleep. See once I put all my assets in her name it would of actually been in her best short term interest to disappear and not give me any money and just keep what I gave her and invest it. She could have been rich for them and then went and got herself an executive no problem I am sure (she would not have to fantasize about it). With nothing I could have done about it. You see she was given carte blanche to become rich by fucking me over and she didn’t. Therefore if there is a God I believe she has earned her way into heaven but she has definitely earned her way into my soul.

    But yea glad you two have made it 20 years glad you two love each other that is an accomplishment but there is a lot of incongruency in you.

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  467. on July 30, 2010 at 11:17 pm Ceyx and Alycone

    This is pathetic. That guy is a loser, and the girls are obviously white trash/trash. Why?

    a) They* fought* over this guy. Pathetic and not classy.
    b) THAT guy. Anyone who could be attracted to *that* is pathetic.

    I can’t believe they’re being held up as part of an example of how to treat women in order to score. This makes me question every single male on this thread.

    Social proof, remember? Careful, boys, your beta-ness is showing.

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  468. on July 30, 2010 at 11:28 pm Gunslingergregi

    ”””””on July 30, 2010 at 8:01 pm Bhetti
    Gunny: I’ve consistently gotten results that’re top of my class. I’m not a genius but I seem to be pretty good at this. The only thing that has ever hindered me is not being Miss Confidence in certain situations. My albatross.
    ”””””
    Ok congratulations!
    I am glad you are doing well.
    I am glad your at top of class.
    You must be putting in some serious study.
    I knew you were smart when you could decipher my words and read my mind lol

    But what does that say about your class if you admit to not being a genious?

    Do you think you would have made it in if people where only accepted on merit and not anything else?

    At 120 iq what you said you were before I am saying there are a shitload of people with higher iq’s. Or are there I guess maybe not. Maybe my entire family are anachronisms.

    But yea what is the percentage of white males in your class?

    Are people in your class higher iq or lower iq than you?

    This is getting interesting.

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  469. It is my experience that married men cheat for 2 reasons.

    1. The hot piece of ass they married turned into a fat, disgusting, nagging, ball busting cunt. (the vast majority of American women)

    2. Once their wives crank out a human Xerox copy or 2, the husbands’ sexual needs are IMMEDIATELY placed at the bottom of her priority list. It becomes all about their 7lb annuities.

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  470. Another thing: the worst medical and dental experiences of my life involved women doctors. Stay in the kitchen ladies.

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  471. “I suspect in times past, “asshole game” consisted in being a man.”

    Exactly! Finally, someone has said what I have been thinking all along. And I think men are still regarded as slightly superior to women here in Australia. It is one reason why men and women don’t hate each other as much as they do in America, and why men don’t have to “game” so hard to get and keep a girl in Australia.

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  472. Laura & Kate–

    Right, you learn SO MUCH as you get older, like maybe the bad boys aren’t such great matches. . . Right, AFTER you’ve fucked a few of them and popped out a couple of womb turds that you now expect either some schmuck beta “nice guy” or better yet, ALL the betas through their tax dollars, to support them. The second solution is even preferable since it relieves you of the unpleasant task of actually having to fuck with any of them.

    As for the discussion of what Daddy would do to protect his daughter, what was that movie with a young Reese Witherspoon about just that subject?

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  473. Astute, probing works of genius, such that Chateau’s contributions represent, deserve my voice of approval. Well done.

    Not that I necessarily agree with all of it… I’ve seen too many women (whom you’d think can do better) settle for castrati mangina providers, for me to be convinced that game is the final word. Plus there are major cultural differences. Game, in its US form (with its emphasis on the alpha/beta duality), does not work in every culture. In continental Europe, for example, a 5’5″ midget would have to have a more articulate form of game than the monosyllabic utterances that our lobotomized thug can get away with. But these are still early days, and we are all at the cutting edge. Forward and onward.

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  474. on July 31, 2010 at 2:02 am namae nanka

    “Yeah, most of these backwaters would never be wealthy nations to begin with but they might be a little better off. But places like Iran and India have a fighting chance (given their history & genetics.) Although Islam stops Iran in its tracts.”

    India has democracy + too many groups with low IQs and affirmative action incorporated in the constitution since 1950. outsourcing is a major help, but once the fiat butthex matrix evaporates then gg

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  475. This is pathetic. That guy is a loser, and the girls are obviously white trash/trash.

    This is a classic example of female rationalization. Obviously white trash? How is this “obvious”? What do you know about them that we don’t? There are many among us who often see women, whom you’d think can do better, choosing trash. How often does some princess decide that someone is a loser, only to have him sweep her off her feet with a little bit of mocking game? It happens all the time. Be careful. It might happen to you some time.

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  476. gunslingergregi,

    Instead of using “””””” to quote someone, you should use some tags in posts so they’re more readable like:

    (em)(/em) for italics

    or even better:

    (blockquote)(/blockquote)

    Just replace the parentheses with a <

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  477. Dana “this is one area where i disagree with a lot here, particularly doug”

    Yeah really especially coming from Doug, the man who falls in deep deep emotional luuuuuvvv (heart heart kiss kiss) over the internet. Just think of what would happen to his poor wandering heart if he ever met another real-life woman! Oh bother

    He also apparently hasn’t stopped to think that if all these ultra alpha ballers and shot callers are “discretely cheating” then they’ve gotta be cheating with *someone*, meaning that in a lot of cases their wives are going to be cheating too. It’s not like the mistresses are going to be coming from a different social class, they’ll probably just be the mrs. from down the street. And vice versa.
    I can only think of one situation in which Doug and his cronies get to cheat all they want and the girls stay chaste … and that’s if the men are all cheating with each other haha lol.

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  478. check out Obama on the View last week….

    go to :59 and freeze it…watch how he’s sitting cross-legged. Is this mirroring or is Obama beta?

    There does’t seem to be any chemistry and it looks like he’s one of the girls… You decide.

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  479. ”Yeah really especially coming from Doug, the man who falls in deep deep emotional luuuuuvvv (heart heart kiss kiss) over the internet. Just think of what would happen to his poor wandering heart if he ever met another real-life woman! Oh bother”

    finally

    someone tell me what the fuck is going on with the self proclaimed alpha and his internet relationships

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  480. On the subject of infidelity, I hope you ladies are minding the difference between infidelity and polygyny.

    Though things that may be good principally, fail in real life, one has to take into account, the real reasons for the failure. Often, as in most cases where exercising one’s principles requires participation from others, it is because the others are not really on board.

    Now, in terms of extramarital sex of the uncommitted sort, this is one of those areas where I think the “over 40 fun club” is a reasonable frame. That’s the age when people usually have enough sense to use a condom and not shag the fatally stupid.

    The kids are grown or just about grown, so even if there’s some shifting, it’s after it would cause developmental damage.

    If a couple comes to a point that they feel they should branch out, this is something that they should decide together. Many women’s sex drives start to lower after 35ish, and I believe that it is grossly unfair to ask a man to be okay with having sex only a few times a year if he still has at least a one-a-day sex drive.

    Were I in that situation, I’d do exactly as I’ve done with BDSM, and delegate that to better qualified women.

    The idea that one should always be the sole sexual focus of one’s husband, just because of a piece of paper is horridly reminiscent of some people’s belief that they are entitled to own other human beings.

    It could go the other way around as well. I’m basically living that.

    Really, if you love someone, you want them to be happy. I don’t mean in constant bliss every moment of every day. I mean reasonable happiness…having a reason to wake up in the morning and smile…knowing they’re loved and supported in real life, not a fairy tale.

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  481. Dana–

    why on earth should women be “good girls” and high quality and treat you men with the respect and honor you deserve AND just “accept” you are going to cheat on them no matter what and they just have to take it.

    No cheating. An understanding. M has veto powers. What we’re doing with C was begun by M, who’s bi curious with my encouragement. This is the first time it’s happened in the physical world. And B is the first time emotionally.

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  482. walawal–

    I love how he goes on a show where one in five of the women are non Jewish heritage white (20%) whereas about 70% of the country is.

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  483. Doug, “No cheating. An understanding. M has veto powers. What we’re doing with C was begun by M, who’s bi curious with my encouragement. This is the first time it’s happened in the physical world. And B is the first time emotionally.”

    Alphabet soup lol
    …. ANd this “m” is actually okay with the whole idea that you’re *emotionally* involved with some random girl online? I’m just not seeing that one, sorry, but I’ve gotta admit I’m burning with curiosity.

    Also I may be wrong but I think I remember seeing you write something like, you were going to marry “c” off to one of your friends once you were done with the threesomes? I was more than a bit surprised by that one too, it seems that you have a pattern of getting emotionally involved with just about every woman you have any kind of hook up with…? I mean, don’t you just want to get your rocks off without everything turning into another relationship?

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  484. doug

    an “understanding” is fine and i grok the distinction

    i remain convincced that no “good” girl would ever come to an understanding like that, a woman who can see you pleasure another woman does not love you

    also, most swinging starts out male centered and he thinks hes having a big party but ends up all about the attention whore once she gets her rocks off being able to be a slut AND taken at the sametime, threesomes with girls will lead to lotsa cocka in her ass and probably her running off with a woman

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  485. Most women would love the pleasure of being an attention whore and having the security of being taken at the same time.

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  486. Oh my! I didn’t know Doug’s love life was so complicated! I thought it was just D and B but now there’s M and C too! Yikes! That is so not romantic!!!!

    Wow! Bhetti is in love with a taken man?

    Eww! What a sucky situation to be in!

    Just so you know, Bhetti, if you’re cute, I could set you up with a man in the real world. I looove playing matchmaker.

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  487. meeee!!!–

    Bhetti is an beautiful and tres smart Arab Muslim med student in London. She’s first aiding at an outdoor concert there at the moment. We “met” here. We talk off here for a long time now almost entirely. Are chatting at the moment in fact.

    She must remain a virgin and chaste until marriage as per her religion and also her upper middle class Arab heritage. It’s a big deal. She doesn’t want to get married yet, though has had prospects paraded, and real dating is discouraged/prohibited by her family, as is typical. Things in groups are ok. She does have real life or meatspace male friends and flirts with them to a degree, but doesn’t want to get into an intense emotional relationship with someone she physically meets, as too dangerous. She will get married though. As well if she found someone super it just might happens sooner than planned. I’d certainly not stand in the way.

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  488. Dana, Audrey, meeee!!!

    You girlies ain’t havin this!!!! Oh noooooooooooooooo.

    hehe

    And Dana, M doesn’t tend lesbo at all and MFM ain’t happen’. It’s M’s first bi curious thing. This summer thing is partner’s in crime between M and I. C’s moving on. In fact we’re gonna be setting her up w/ some possible marriage prospects. Well mostly I am.

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  489. Polyamorous principles aside, what Dana mentioned does happen quite often. I wouldn’t say in the majority of cases, but in a substantial enough proportion that guys considering threesomes should beware.

    More people means more competition. Don’t be so sure that the world revolves around your penis. It doesn’t.

    In order to keep your woman’s head from turning, you have to be able to do something for her that a woman can’t and couldn’t in a million years.

    You should also not be in such a big hurry to get into a threesome that you neglect to filter the other women for integrity and femininity. If you’re not sure the woman wouldn’t fall in love with and take away your woman, don’t go there. If you’re not sure the other woman wouldn’t, when you’re not around, draw her into activities with other men, don’t go there.

    So a best case scenario would be that both the women are yours. I wouldn’t do this any other way.

    You’re taking a big, unjustifiable risk having non committal sex with women outside your authority. Women bond with each other much more quickly than men do. In fact, it’s only a half a joke that when a woman has sex with another woman, they’re girlfriends. This is the normal situation.

    So even if you’re sure your woman isn’t going to go away, what you’re asking her to do is something that is against feminine nature: have sex with and then detatch from whatever women you bring in. You’re turning her into a man, or twisting her.

    The long term result of this is bound to be her becoming more masculine in mentality, and maybe in a bad way.

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  490. on July 31, 2010 at 2:12 pm gunslingergregi

    ”””””’Nicole,
    So even if you’re sure your woman isn’t going to go away, what you’re asking her to do is something that is against feminine nature: have sex with and then detatch from whatever women you bring in. You’re turning her into a man, or twisting her.

    The long term result of this is bound to be her becoming more masculine in mentality, and maybe in a bad way.
    ””””””””’

    Yea I think you understand. Yes a man could have his woman do that with another woman because she will listen to him but yea some places you probably shouldn’t go even though you can go their. Sometimes you have to look out for your womans soul a little bit and not just endulge in absolute power currupting absolutely. I mean as a man it might be interesting to test your woman that way but sometimes you can just know that she would do anything for you and not have to make her prove it. There are other means to have her prove devotion with less damage to her soul.

    But I guess if the woman brings it up might be diferent story but then she is not yours anymore from my perspective. Just like yea you could have her fuck other guys to prove your power but again yea going against her nature and not loving her enough to shelter her a little from the storm. To me I mean you want your woman to be able to do some crazy shit but she should also be bringing out some kind of protective instinct in you as well to kind of take some responsibility for the condition her soul leaves this earth in. But yea people are diferent and probably most are trying to do the best they can with what god gave em.

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  491. on July 31, 2010 at 2:21 pm gunslingergregi

    ””””””sharpcool
    gunslingergregi,

    Instead of using “””””” to quote someone, you should use some tags in posts so they’re more readable like:

    (em)(/em) for italics

    or even better:

    (blockquote)(/blockquote)

    Just replace the parentheses with a <
    '''''''''''

    lol that is how I peacock and diferentiate myself from the pack. he he he

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  492. on July 31, 2010 at 2:40 pm White Woman

    This is bad. Makes me want to ground my 17 yo dtr until she’s 21.

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  493. on July 31, 2010 at 2:41 pm White Woman

    Guns…don’t forget, “he he he” differentiates you too. I laugh every time I see it!

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  494. Doug says, “C’s moving on. In fact we’re gonna be setting her up w/ some possible marriage prospects. Well mostly I am.”

    Marriage prospects for your used goods? I’m sorry Doug, this is so hard to believe that I want to call bs on this whole story.
    And, if this is true it’s soooo creeeeeeeeeeeeepy. omg lol doesn’t anyone else here find this creepy, wanting to marry your used goods off to your friends?
    Why would you want to do that, especially to any guy you presumably know well enough to put forward as a “marriage prospect?”
    ew ew! gross lol

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  495. Audrey, almost all non married non virgins are the leftovers of some alpha male.

    At least Doug is a benevolent one.

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  496. he he he indeed.

    Doug1 has a lot of stuff going on that doesn’t necessarily go together. When a woman is willing to let her husband have another woman (in real life, e-affairs are totally different), there are several things that could be going on:

    1) She has a low sex drive and can’t satisfy him anymore

    2) She is cheating herself

    3) She is bisexual or bi-curious and only tolerates it because she gets to play too

    4) She is reluctantly going along with it because she doesn’t want to lose him or has a low opinion of herself

    5) The marriage was explicitly open from day 1, there were never any promises of exclusivity

    6) The woman is from a religion or society where polygamy is normal.

    I am going to make no assumptions whatsoever about which of these apply to whom in Doug1’s complicated life, and I am not going to criticize him at all because I don’t know the details. All I am saying is that I suspect that for most marriages, the above conditions either do not apply (1,3,5,6) or are very undesirable (2,4).

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  497. Nicole “Audrey, almost all non married non virgins are the leftovers of some alpha male”

    Lol yeah but there’s a world of difference between knowing that a girl has had some sexual experience, and actually taking someone else’s hand me downs specifically *from* that person. Eeww that gives me the creepy crawlies.
    Especially since any guy that Doug knows well enough to set her up with, is obviously going to know the score. Not cool, not okay. Most non pathetic guys are okay with their woman having had sex before, even unusual sex, but I can’t imagine any guy who is not a pathetic loser being okay with being *directly* handed someone’s leftovers.

    I still say bs on this part, Doug has been reading one too many books about some sultan who gave away the used chicks from his harem to his underlings just to stick the knife in and twist it that much more. Unless he just wants to be mean to his “marriage material friend”.
    Next thing you know he’s gonna say he wants to knock her up before making the hand off hmmmm lol

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  498. Audrey—

    You idiotic clucking hen. Lots of uninvited kibitzing on my relationships.

    Nobody’s “marrying off” C. Early on before anything really sexual happened she hinted around about us introing her to someone, I guess cause she thought we were a pretty fun couple w/a great relationship. Will probably introduce her to a couple of guys I know, not exactly friends. Closer to her age. M has someone maybe in mind too. Totally up to her and them after that. Will introduce her as a friend of M’s that has sometimes been a summer house guest of ours, so I’ve gotten to know her well. Up to her to say more if she wants at some point. Doubt she will. Actually will probably ask her not to.

    This “used goods” bit is equally absurd. What’s wrong with you? She wasn’t a virgin, but who is that’s hot in urban America these days? She has been a relatively good girl, until we ruined her. Kidding.

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  499. Polymath—

    Oh for chrissakes. You don’t know what you’re talking about. Not everyone is just like you and your wife.

    All I am saying is that I suspect that for most marriages, the above conditions either do not apply (1,3,5,6) or are very undesirable (2,4).

    No, ours is not most marriages, you got that right. Though your 1 probably does apply to most marriages. Also, we’re not married. M lives with me as I’ve said a gazillion times around here.

    1, 2 and 6 don’t apply at all. You’ve got the rest way twisted too, to preserve your strictly monogamous worldview. M doesn’t have a low opinion of herself and she’s having fun too. But yeah there is jealousy to manage, and to gentle. Takes some skillz. The temporary bit is key. The public face is that C has become M’s close friend and we all have fun doing weekend stuff together, after C’s breakup w/her boyfriend.

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  500. Bictopia Dana, do you speak any Hungarian?

    What made you think that. Have you seen Hungarian coming out of her mouth?

    Dana one of the main excuses women use to rationalize their own cheating is the meme thats been drummed into their heads “all men cheat, all men cheat” , so they figure they might as well.

    Cosign, I’ve mentioned this here before. Most of the female cheating that I’ve known&heard about was preemptive cheating.

    Dana why on earth should women be “good girls” and high quality and treat you men with the respect and honor you deserve AND just “accept” you are going to cheat on them no matter what and they just have to take it

    100% agree. I hear women argue that there is no point in investing in a man since he will only do you wrong anyway. Since woman can pay our own bills now, they don’t need men for much.

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  501. A lot of men in more traditional parts of the world, and even some in the West, do not want to marry a non-virgin, precisely because she is some other man’s leavings. It is an humiliation. I suspect that there is still an undercurrent of this in the West, and a lot of “alphas” are quietly snickering about the damaged goods they are leaving around for lesser men to cope with later.

    There was a video around the Internet a few days ago of a man in ?Pakistan very unwillingly marrying a girl. I gather that she was suspected of not being a virgin. He may himself have been responsible for this, but his fury and dismay made me wonder if he is not facing a lifetime of being mocked as the man who married the “unclean bitch”, as they say in that robust and traditional part of the world.

    I commend to you all the autobiography of the artist Benvenuto Cellini. He punished a man who had slept with his girlfriend, one of his models, by making him marry the slut.

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  502. Hi David

    Will you come over to the non sequitur thread and quadrantalyse yourself.

    I would have you down as an extreme Fourth Quadranter.

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  503. dragnet, all this time I thought you were a decent guy for the most part. You’re just a low down dirty dog like most of them dragnet. BTW, I fixed your post for you.

    Dragnet A few years ago I was sleeping with 4 quality women—all of whom knew I was not exclusive with them. All with degrees, physically attractive, professionals, two from stable homes, etc. I can say without hesitation that I will never, ever do anything like it again— my tongue and mouth was always sore I was miserable. the nonstop itching,scratching & burning in my groin area keep me up all night I slept about 2 nights week in my own bed, cause the constant biting of the crabs in my bed would not let me sleep got no rest, did I mention that they were biting me all night and was perpetually late for work because by the time I finally got some sleep, it was time to get up

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  504. Sarah He got the girls for being conventionally attractive– extremely well-muscled, tattoo, nice face. He’s easily physically hotter than either of his girlfriends, which can explain their attraction without game.

    editor[No, that’s not it. He’s average looking, maybe a little better than average. But I’ve known plenty of much better looking men

    from the pic in the post, he’s rather nice looking.

    chic noir maxim #3 never take a man’s word on what a good looking man is. To find out what a very good-looking man looks like, listen to names of men who large numbers of women fawn over & cream for.

    Bonus points.. most are not very masculine looking men.
    ex of masculine looking men jason giambi, ray lewis &Jose canseco.

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  505. Hi sdaedalus

    I shall try. I am not sure what the whole quadrants thing is about. Is there a test?

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  506. OK, SDaedalus, I see your schema. I think you have the quadrants correct mathematically. Yes, I would be very much in the 4th Quarter, probably why David Alexander and I disagreed so profoundly!

    I like Madonnas I can rule. I wanted a submissive virgin, which is what I married. I want her to look feminine and respectable in public. I insist she always wears skirts or dresses. But I expect a lot of compliance in the bedroom.

    There is no other way to live.

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  507. Doug
    “You idiotic clucking hen. Lots of uninvited kibitzing on my relationships.”
    –> This from someone who’s famous for inserting himself into every relationship discussion on this whole blog. Lol

    You do invite the kibbutzing, you know, by posting all these little details of your relationships on this blog, waaaaayy more than any other poster here. Sometimes you come across as someone who knows what he’s talking about but sometimes you come across as someone who oh so desperately has something to prove, god knows what that may be.

    “You’ve got the rest way twisted too, to preserve your strictly monogamous worldview”

    –> Speaking of, I notice that you’ve conveniently avoided the topic of “m” versus your “emotional love” with betti. Pray tell does your live-in girl know about this other emotional investment? And if she does what does she say and do about it? Look, lots of women will let you get away with sticking your dick in a girl or two especially if they swing both ways themselves, but an outside *emotional* relationship will trip the oooooohhhhhhh heeeeellllllll nnoooooooooo switch for any woman who’s self confidence is not in the toilet.
    If “m” is okay with you being involved *emotionally* with some other chick, especially if you fell in love without even meeting face to face (lol) then she is just not that into you, sorry.

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  508. Doug1,

    You totally misunderstood me, dude. I have no problem with what you are doing, I’m just saying you’re not typical, and you said nothing to contradict what I said.

    This is Logic 101. There are two connective conjunctions, “and” and “or”. They have different meanings. I was not saying that all of my 6 conditions applied to your relationship, just that at least one must have, and you have admitted that condition #3 does indeed apply. I will try and make my reasoning clearer for the benefit of the logically challenged:

    I said that the situation “A woman is willing to let her husband (or, implicitly, LTR) have another woman if one of the following 6 conditions applies” and gave 6 conditions.

    I then pointed out that conditions 1,3,5, and 6 were uncommon, and conditions 2 and 4 were undesirable.

    My intended conclusion is that the described situation will not desirably occur in most marriages/LTRs (because the union of the sets of marriages/LTRs satisfying conditions 1, 3, 5, 6 consists of a minority of marriages).

    To dispute my conclusion, you must either come up with a 7th condition, or argue that 1, 3, 5, and 6 are common enough that one of them occurs in most marriages.

    To your credit, you did claim that condition 1 applies to most marriages (wife’s sex drive is too low to satisfy her husband). I happen to disagree with you on this point, but would be happy to debate it further.

    However, despite my clear statement that I was making no assumptions about or criticism of your own relationships, you read my implied “or” as an “and” and felt insulted, even though I had phrased it carefully (“there are several things that could be going on” to imply that they do not all need to be occurring.)

    I apologize for not writing clearly enough to avoid misunderstanding. I hope this reply makes what I am saying clearer.

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  509. unlearning genius …

    *as unlearning genius makes his pitch which he memorized for a game book with a witty quip about a geometry theorm, to a pretty 8, Just as her eyes started to glaze over, some 6-packed thug walks up behind him and makes “eyes” at un’s target*

    2 minutes later…
    8 to unlearning genius “well it was nice meeting you, wait what did you say your name was again…”

    *before UN can tell her his name, she runs off with thug alpha*

    jokes off

    When you post such a long drawn comment like this, about something so simple. Baby it ain’t the cure for cancer. You don’t have to write such a bland dissertation about common occurrences. You must use the KISS method for most people.

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  510. Audrey says, “Lol yeah but there’s a world of difference between knowing that a girl has had some sexual experience, and actually taking someone else’s hand me downs specifically *from* that person. Eeww that gives me the creepy crawlies.”

    Creepy as it may be to you, it’s quite common. I don’t blog-brag about this because it’s not that important, but I currently have two men I’m not attracted to, vying for my attentions because I was with a friend of theirs who lost me by overplaying aloofness. He regrets it now, but it’s too late.

    His two friends though, are doing very out of character things to try to seduce me. It’s like as soon as they were sure the alpha member of their crew’s hand was off, they jumped in.

    I find it gross too, but it is by no means uncommon. For less alpha guys, social proof is very important. If what I’ve seen from other scenarios is true, the goal is either to wave me in front of the alpha’s face as if to say they are better than him because they could actually keep me, or to more simply see what it’s like to be the alpha by shagging the girl who shagged the alpha.

    He may have even invited them to try, as a kind of challenge to me. Too bad for him, his father is alive. If I was petty and wanted revenge, I wouldn’t shag his friends. I’d shag his dad.

    As it is, I’m a “bros before hoes” type of friend, even if the “hoe” is me. Friends and dads of ex boyfriends are off limits.

    “Especially since any guy that Doug knows well enough to set her up with, is obviously going to know the score. Not cool, not okay. Most non pathetic guys are okay with their woman having had sex before, even unusual sex, but I can’t imagine any guy who is not a pathetic loser being okay with being *directly* handed someone’s leftovers.”

    Well, some have no idea of the level of perversion of some men, but you have no idea of the level of perversion of most men…though it doesn’t really count as perversion if it’s common.

    An attractive woman doesn’t lose attractiveness just because she’s had sex. What would lower her value is what would lower her attractiveness: becoming jaded and less feminine.

    If the alpha was responsible and truly left her better than he found her, it won’t be a problem. I doubt the guy will know, and even if he does, or finds out, it won’t matter to him if she’s hot.

    Some guys fall in love with hookers.

    “I still say bs on this part, Doug has been reading one too many books about some sultan who gave away the used chicks from his harem to his underlings just to stick the knife in and twist it that much more. Unless he just wants to be mean to his “marriage material friend”.
    Next thing you know he’s gonna say he wants to knock her up before making the hand off hmmmm lol”

    Hey, that’s been done too. Lots of guys date and marry single mothers, and know the baby’s daddy.

    If a woman is hot or otherwise attractive and sought after, she can get away with just about anything, except in Muslim or other extremely conservative cultures.

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  511. i didnt see where bictopia asked if i speak hungarian, but my father’s side is hungarian jews–likely german via hungary though

    why?

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  512. So all this sluttery in underage girls is at least partly the fault of their beta fathers.

    Pretty pathetic considering my single motherly self managed to raise two non-slut daughters while their dad (my ex-husband) did his alpha thing else-where.

    Here’s a clue for you youngsters who can’t figure it out on your own. The wallet makes the rules. You don’t like the directions your kid is headed in, you ground them and close your wallet. No more cool(or slutty) clothes….no more spending money. It’s amazingly effective. (slutty clothes for girls are always a bad idea….don’t just hand them your credit card. You or the wife go shopping with them, even if it kills you)

    I didn’t have to resort to much of this myself because when my kids were young, rather than spend every minute of the day worrying about getting laid like some people do…I spent my children’s childhoods PARENTING them. What a concept!

    Sometimes it’s not so bad being a silly Christian.

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  513. @ Nicole

    – just because you think certain woman were’nt attractive, does’nt mean that men have to think the same.

    – So says men are influenced by media and society ? because of the woman their attracted too ?

    just because they’re not attracted to certain woman, does’nt mean someone or something is influencing them.

    – Woman improve themselves to attarct men, that’s nothing new.
    If a woman wants to be accepted for who she is, she has to FIRST accept that there are men and woman who are’nt going to do that and to not become bitter.

    – I’ve only had one instance were a girls’ looks have been overhyped. people are very vocal about a female’s looks, especially when a female wants to hook me up with one of her friends.

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  514. Let me explain Doug. You have to realise he’s a very complicated man: multi-faceted. The main relevant points of his personality is that he’s extremely sexual, very compassionate and an extroverted, curious intellectual.
    He’s also addicted to strategising and does it well in multiple spheres.

    Don’t confuse his politics for his personality. He would give up some things that would and do benefit him for a fairer society.

    Now the reason he has communication with me is because I pursued him. I admired him. I loved him. I became dependent on him. And he’s the kind of man that cannot leave that completely unreciprocated, especially to someone he feels attraction for, especially as an intellectual outlet. It’s not that his current isn’t smart, but she doesn’t find interesting everything he does and there’re some things from my cultural viewpoint that she wouldn’t comment on in the same way. Make no mistake, he is ultimately loyal, honest and loving to his current… as she remains loyal to him. That’s part of why he can play: he makes her feel safe, intensely sexual and ultimately loved. It feels to her like she can end it any time, but she actively enjoys it and he makes sure she does. He keeps me at quite a distance in a lot of ways, which he doesn’t talk about publicly because he’s protective of me.

    He has no kids. The reason he has no kids is because of the various pathologies of his society stemming ultimately from feminism. In a different society… a man of equal status, health and natural ability both intellectual and social would have had the opportunity and encouragement to have a good deal of kids with a good mother. Or even many wives. This is the only thing that makes sense to me, because he is undoubtedly genetically superior.

    dana:

    Like I’ve said, I don’t believe in a culture of cheating. But I don’t believe that infidelity should be an automatic ejection, if you love someone and they want to stay with you and especially if you have children. It’s really difficult, but you have your promise to keep even if he didn’t manage it. You’re a team and you can’t automatically eject him because he wasn’t perfect. For the sake of love and the relationship, you have to explore what happened and why.

    No, life isn’t fair. People have their various failures as relationships progress and they won’t be the same failures.

    But hey, if he cheated on you and doesn’t show remorse, affection and reform nor managed to adequately justify it… even though you’ve shown him good faith, had both always agreed on being monogamous and were willing to criticise your part in whatever led to his behaviour. Then proceed with the ejection.

    I mean what you’re telling me is that you wouldn’t be able to overcome that sick sense of betrayal to evaluate what happened, and see if it could possibly be fixed. I don’t think that’s love. Since I’ve not been in that situation, I can’t tell you if I’d manage it myself, but I certainly wouldn’t think much of my emotional strength for him if I couldn’t bring myself to try.

    If you didn’t feel any pain when you discovered he was secretly being with another woman, then yes I agree you don’t care about him.

    polymath:

    Modifications.

    3) She is bisexual or bi-curious and encourages it because she likes to play with him

    7) She is very sexually submissive and gets off on both pain and what pleases him

    8) She loves him and wants him at his happiest

    Audrey:
    How old are you? Please write like an adult which I’m sure you’re very capable of and, when you do that, we’ll maybe have a nice adult discussion where we’ll all not judge each other for things hmmm… like, say, being unapologetic attentionwhore dancers lol.

    It’s really interesting how hysterical girls are getting about this, and projecting their personality, initially making many erroneous kneejerk assumptions. Remember that mileages may vary and generalisations do not apply.

    It’s complicated. Genuinely.

    It’s mythical feminist propaganda that those men who have multiple women are always victimising their hapless partners.

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  515. Bhetti,

    Thanks for your thoughtful reply.

    Your rewording of my condition 3 is good. Your suggestion of a new condition 7 is also good. However neither of those change my conclusion that Doug1’s arrangement is not going to be good for most couples because 3 and 7 are still both uncommon.

    I think my main point is that your new condition 8, which is sort of what I was reacting to in the first place with my list, does not result in this arrangement unless one of the other conditions also exists. Condition 8 makes it sound like the arrangement would be good for all couples, because the woman should always love the man and want him too be happy, but it does not imply she should be willing to let him have another woman on the side without one of the other conditions being true.

    And just so you won’t misunderstand me — this is not a criticism of the arrangement, there is nothing wrong with most of those conditions, even though they don’t apply to most couples.

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  516. Bhetti

    Why settle for 2nd or 3rd place? Doug has a number one girl, and it’s not you! You can justify it however you want, but perhaps working on your self-esteem would be a good place to start. You don’t know love until you’ve been a mans number one and only! Search for it, experience it! Love can be so magical, if you connect with the right person! Don’t settle, my dear!

    ps-*EVERY* man is extremely sexual, not just Doug! If Doug met a 9 or a 10, who is super sweet and made him feel like a god, he would most likely dump all of his ‘extra’ girls soooooooo fast.

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  517. Is game “status” in itself????

    let’s make the test…. send your wittiest and incomprehensible texts, negs, psych domination, etc… then invite the chick into your mom’s moldy basement to close the deal and tell her that’s where you live. We’ll see how well your game stands up to flagrant loserdom with with Georgetown or Upper East Side chickies.

    Try coming back from work one day and tell your Russian fiance that you lost your job. See how long it takes for her to dump your game expertise ass.

    Sorry, game isn’t status. game is just a turbocharger that takes you from good to great.

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  518. William says, “- just because you think certain woman were’nt attractive, does’nt mean that men have to think the same.”

    Perceptions of beauty may be relative, but everybody knows what ugly is.

    “- So says men are influenced by media and society ? because of the woman their attracted too ?”

    No, because of the trannies, AIS androgynes and Adam’s appled clenbuterol cyclers they’re attracted to en masse.

    “just because they’re not attracted to certain woman, does’nt mean someone or something is influencing them.”

    In the rest of the world, men are attracted to feminine women. It’s why many American female expatriates end up going back within a couple of years. They think they’re all that just because they’re skinny or accomplished, and fail in countries where men like women to be women and not men with vaginas.

    “- Woman improve themselves to attarct men, that’s nothing new.”

    I don’t see clitoral hypertrophy or an Adam’s apple as an improvement.

    “If a woman wants to be accepted for who she is, she has to FIRST accept that there are men and woman who are’nt going to do that and to not become bitter.”

    It is not bitterness to realize that American men are overly feminized. One must realize this in order to filter down to the ones who are not. One indicator of feminization is attraction to masculine women. Masculine men are attracted to feminine women…sometimes tomboyish or amazon ornamented women, but still feminine in the ways that count.

    Masculine men are less influenced by social proofing or social status of women unless they’re specifically looking for a trophy. They’re not going to moralize about this though. They just do what they have to do to get what they want out of life.

    “- I’ve only had one instance were a girls’ looks have been overhyped. people are very vocal about a female’s looks, especially when a female wants to hook me up with one of her friends.”

    Maybe you are just too beta to know when a woman’s looks are being overhyped. Not an accusation, just a possibility.

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  519. Me, I have a saying that I’d rather be the bitch of a man than the queen of a bitch.

    It’s not as simplistic as the five minutes of alpha thing, but it’s because of the same basic wiring.

    With a man, you know where you stand, whether it’s first, second, or third place. You know that your place isn’t going to be disturbed by anything but you or him. Nobody else can get between you because he knows what he wants and does what he wants, and is responsible and straightforward.

    With mangina, anything could and will come between you…his family, society, his social group. He’s too dependent on what other people say and think about him and what he’s doing. There’s no stability there, and no real love because how he feels about you can change like the wind.

    Polygamy works like this…

    Let’s say you have more than one child. Do you love each of them less because you have more than one? Even if you get along with one better than the others, and they’re your favorite. Do you love the others less? Would you do less for them?

    Why would a guy love one wife more or less than another?

    Because of the differences in relating, that might lead to drama or jealousy, the women arrange themselves by rank of acquisition. The first wife is the leader, the second, the second in command, and so on. Priority of time and resources goes to the first, and she can decide if she wants to give some of her right of way to another.

    This keeps things sane and orderly.

    Some guys are monogamists either by nature or by decision, so polygamy can be difficult to understand. Just don’t be so presumptuous as to assume that just because extra loves would be lesser loves for you, that this is the case for all men.

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  520. on August 1, 2010 at 4:26 pm Nopey Nope Nope

    Oh parents most certainly can and do mistreat one child over the other and eventually cut one child out of their will. Parents can be outright cruel and abusive to one child and spoil and pamper another child.

    Polygamist males who keep marrying the next young thing will relegate the other wives to gardening, maid services and child-rearing status whilst favouring the new girl and the cycle continues into a bitter brood of womenfolk.

    In polygamy there will be plenty of men who cannot even avail themselves of one wife which will mean a lot of males will be left in the dust and other males will have the glut.

    With hypergamy, the ugly women won’t get as much of a chance at a husband or even out of wedlock offspring because the prettier women are willing to sleep around more and take more men for themselves even if only for one night stands which means men will opt for just one nighter with hotties or glamourized prostitutes rather than settling down with a sweet, good-natured homely girl.

    So, with hypergamy or polygamy, there will always be some sort of depressing outcome for some men and women.

    Of course, there are always lager-goggles when the going gets tough for either sex.

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  521. bhetti

    no hysteria here at all

    possibly just the experienced opinions of grown women who have, you know, lived with and had sexual relationships with men over the course of their lives. if you ever do have a consummated committed relationship with a man and experience infidelity and it works out that way for you god bless ya i wish you well

    i do not mean that as snarky as it comes out–but just as mandy xd’s opinions were risible based on her alleged age alone, the unseemly and frankly hilarious relationship opinions of a virgin who reads romance novels are nearly impossible to take seriously

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  522. I pursued him. I admired him. I loved him. I became dependent on him.

    you’re not fucking dependent on him this is an internet relationship

    not

    real

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  523. NNN, one of the advantages of polygamy as opposed to serial monogamy, is that the “next young thing” doesn’t get to unseat the old thing and monopolize the guy’s attention and resources.

    All the discouragement of polygamy with acceptance of serial monogamy does is create an excess of single older women.

    An excess of single older women in a society is never a good thing.

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  524. Mark, the internet is just another means of communication.

    When you talk to someone on the phone, is the conversation real or not real?

    Why would conversations over the internet be any less real than on the phone, or sitting in a room?

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  525. Bhetti=Virgin
    Virgin=Naive
    Naive=Naive

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  526. dana: I meant the other females, woman. You need experience, insight and analytical skills combined to come to the truth. We learn lessons passed down from others, and learn faster. Some never learn.

    I have no idea why romance novels make me unique in any way; I read voraciously in many genres, with phases. I suppose you mention them because they’re sum total of vicarious experience.

    Although I have had little experience relative to pretty much everyone reading, my sole boyfriend did get an offer for sex from an ex-bestfriend who had recently put me through some drama.

    I would’ve been very hurt and instant ejected him (and he did betray me over her in a slightly different way and that broke us up) if he had done anything with her, and that is because I didn’t actually love him. I regarded him as my property and he had to behave well, or else he was worthless to me.

    polymath: Didn’t mean to imply arguing with your conclusion. I hear you on eight.

    mark: Your words are not real therefore I’m not listening to them 😉

    me: For God’s sake. This isn’t a lifetime arrangement. He does actually encourage me to flirt and find somebody.

    You’re totally wrong on the dumping.

    You need to go work on your reading skills whilst I work on my self-esteem, eh?

    Gunny: Sorry, I remembered I forgot to answer you. I’m not sure where you go the IQ score from… the one I could’ve mentioned is one I took years ago from some online test that didn’t look very professional. It was either 126, or 136, I don’t remember.

    Anyway, I say I’m not a genius… but that could be just my low self-esteem problem that has been so skilfully diagnosed just now??????

    Well, I did take an actual IQ test called the UKCAT to get into medical school. I did way above average on verbal reasoning and decision analysis, about average on abstract and quantitative reasoning. Average being the averages of those taking the test of those applying for medicine.

    So I would say I was accepted on merit.

    Can’t tell you much about the demographics of my medical school; there’s not that many in London, you see.

    About serious study. I was seniorly involved in too many socities and you’ve seen how much time I just goof off on the Internets.

    Strategic studying, rather.

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  527. A male surplus is downright dangerous to a populace.

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  528. Nicole,

    I have two girlfriends (they do not know about the existence of one another) and if they ever found out about each other I think they would be extremely pissed off. Now, they are also getting older (mid thirties) and I’m quite sure they’re not interested in going back on the sexual market to find another guy.

    This is problematic because one girl in particular I think is capable of doing something drastic (if she found out). But then again, I’m not sure. Maybe they’d both accept it. Still and all, it’s a gamble for men if they want to go down this road. If polygamy were the law, then sure it’d be no problem. But it isn’t. Are you saying a woman could learn to share, and not have dreams of killing the other woman?

    Also,

    internet relationships (in my opinion) aren’t really relationships. Gotta agree with Mark on that one. Being with someone physically, day in/day out -that’s a relationship.

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  529. Tim: I wasn’t saying anything about internet relationships validity (though we’re being black and white). It’s definitely different from real life.

    However, Mark’s either calling me a liar/calling out an exaggeration (which to my knowledge I’m not; this is the strongest I’ve ever felt and Doug’s motivated me to change a lot of things in my life for the positive thanks to him) or saying I’m hallucinating (I’ve not taken anything… or am I schizophrenic on top of the low self-esteem?).

    It’s probably not important to Doug but he’s been pretty important to me. He’s influenced to me to just achieve my potential in so much and be much more positive than I’m inclined to be. He’s amazing.

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  530. Whoa Bhetti I don’t want to get involved really, I was just making an off-handed comment to Nicole, but honestly whatever you do is none of my business, that’s all I’ll say, I’d rather stay out of it and wish you all the best.

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  531. Tim internet relationships (in my opinion) aren’t really relationships

    I think internet relationships can be more intense and fulfilling than non-virtual relationships. For one, sometimes the heart does grow fonder. two ,you’re not caught up in the mundane, who leaves the toilet seat up, who forgot to put the cap on the tooth paste, just the good parts of a relationship.

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  532. “Why would conversations over the internet be any less real than on the phone, or sitting in a room?”

    Bandwidth.

    A pen pal relationship is not as real as a relationship in which you can smell the girl, and that’s not as real as a relationship where you regularly fuck, and that’s not as real as where you live together.

    It’s completely understandable that many will view an internet romance – even with webcam – as too etherial to count.

    Notwithstanding the real feelings.

    Betti will grow out of it as soon as she starts to get some dick.

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  533. Chic, by that logic a girl with pictures of horses and ponies on her wall “really” loves horses. And when she graduates to pictures of puffy faced pretty boys, she “really” loves them.

    Girls imagine they are in a relationship. Imagination is a powerful thing.

    Being less mundane probably means less reality, not more.

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  534. internet romances are like writing to death row inmates

    all “romance”, no obligation

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  535. betas would be smart to look at doug1 and bhetti’s relationship and learn.

    1. has doug met bhetti face to face no.
    2.does doug have her singing his praises any and everywhere online-yes
    3. has been run a-hole game on her here-no
    4. has bhetti defending him when he isn’t around-yes

    sum total*= doug daper smooth old school gentleman alpha.

    how does a man project such an image that he has women(more than one) fall in love with him online? How is he able to do this but so many other man can’t somuch get a smiley face online?

    *hide the babies but you get the overall picture.

    betas copy and practice doug’s example and learn to translate it into real life.

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  536. xsplat,

    Agree and disagree. Bandwidth not as high as when you live with someone, but can still be high enough for great intensity, connection, and dependence.

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  537. Tim, you are in a fix, if you promised or even implied exclusivity. In this case, honesty might be the selfish thing to do.

    If exclusivity was only implied but not promised, you may be able to pull it out by finding out if polygamy would be acceptable to them. If it wouldn’t be, then you have a decision to make…one, the other, or dumping both…or keep living a double life.

    Just be careful when posing the question. You could bring it up when someone else brings up threesomes, rivalry, Mormons, or reality shows with multiple female contestants. Make it clear that you’re not against polygamy, but you understand that a man has to go about it responsibly.

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  538. xsplat Chic, by that logic a girl with pictures of horses and ponies on her wall “really” loves horses. And when she graduates to pictures of puffy faced pretty boys, she “really” loves them

    Nope, cause a woman can’t have a conversation with a picture of a horse or pony on her wall. Online, you can get pass the superficial because the face isn’t the first thing you see, it’s the words.

    You know that women are verbal creatures so it’s much easier to capture a woman’s heart online. I would also argue that male2female romantic gestures and compliments may go over smoother online than in real life.

    tell me if I’m wrong xsplat but being rejected online isn’t as soul crushing as it is in real life.

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  539. This openly displayed female tendency to conjure up a “relationship” out of almost nothing is genuinely scary if you are guy. I mean, she says she just wants to have sex. OK, its Saturady night and you will do. But her fantasy-turning-into-assumptions-of-reality hamster is running full bore despite what her fore-brain said or even thinks. So, even before she has wiped your cum off her tits she is planning the details of the wedding.
    And you have not gotten her last name.
    Bhetti, darling, take a deep breath and slow yourself down.

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  540. dana
    iinternet romances are like writing to death row inmates

    all “romance”, no obligation

    welcome to land of PUAs. All “romance” and no obligation(ring).

    Girls imagine they are in a relationship. Imagination is a powerful thing.

    very true and it’s why some women hear what we want when men clearly say the opposite.

    Use a woman’s imagination to your advantage. I’m not talking about P&D stuff, I talking about when you really want to be with a woman. Playing around with a woman’s imagination when you aren’t serious can get you in serious trouble… possibly an episode on snapped.

    Being less mundane probably means less reality, not more.

    but it is the mundane that usually spells the end of romance and romantic love. You’re still in love but not in lust and your eye wanders just a little bit more. Your fantasies of other women become just a bit more intense. You start thinking of exit stratagies etc…

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  541. Rum, it’s not scary if your intentions are up front and honorable.

    That conjuring up a relationship out of “nothing” is what makes a woman a woman. When she loses that, she’s lost a crucial element of her femininity. Love and nurturing becomes less a drive and more a form of currency.

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  542. Nicole
    Love and nurturing is cool.
    Psycho bitches kicking on my door after midnight is a lot less cool, especially if I cannot remember their last name.

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  543. Chic, I agree that you can have real communication and real feelings through internet conversations.

    It’s real. Just not real enough to pass the thresh hold test of counting as a real relationship. A lot of people don’t see a romantic as relationship as real until you start fucking. There are serious biological changes that happen in the body, and the level of bonding can get quite intense. You can’t do that over the net. All you can do over the net is feel loved, and share infatuation and concern and language. That’s a minor component of relationship.

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  544. Nicole,

    Thanks and I think I already knew the answer. Polygamy is not cool, and I’d best just do as others and have one at a time. Got it. No further discussion needed.

    Chic,

    I can understand being nice to someone online, maybe a little flirt, ok…but you are powering off your laptop when you’re finished and going back to reality, yes? You’re not actually falling in love online, are you? I’ve heard of people meeting from dating websites, they chat, and then eventually they meet. Is that what you’re talking about?

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  545. Rum, didn’t you know the unwrittable female rules?

    A woman shall have at her discretion the right to fuck anyone, as long as she’s discreet. Once her pussy has been entered, the woman has as her right and at her sole discretion the authority to claim the man as a personal slave for life. The man needn’t agree to “bargain” beforehand. Just getting in there makes him hers.

    If he doesn’t agree, then he is a bad man, and she can exact revenge.

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  546. xsplat,

    Depends what you mean by “real relationship”. Friendship is a type of real relationship that doesn’t depend on physical contact, and can be just as deep and intense online as off, and friendships can get pretty deep and intense. Romance can reach a certain point online, and get no further *as a romance*, you’re right about that. But combine that small amount of romance with a deep friendship, and the friendship gets supercharged. I have written elsewhere on this blog about how it is possible for men and women who are otherwise attached to have an intense friendship, but there are risks and not everyone can handle the kind of self-control needed. However, an e-friendship avoids those risks, and the male-female tension adds enormous energy and interest (though it only works if they truly click *as friends*).

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  547. Anyone whose done any online dating has had the experience of hitting it off over the net, and then not making much of a connection on the phone. Or making a great connection online and on the phone, but then in person finding no chemistry.

    Until you can do a sniff test online, there is not enough bandwidth there to even know if you’ll be attracted to each other.

    I’m going to make that one of the first things I do on a date. Take a good long deep smell of the woman’s neck. If no boner, I’ll pay the check and go.

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  548. Yes, I agree Poly. I agree that the comparisons of relationship of a woman you are fucking compared to one you primarily interact with through the net show such a vast difference that one needs different categories for them.

    An online relationship is not a relationship, unless you are using relationship to mean friendship.

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  549. A while back I mentioned it was advantageous for the man to cultivate a quick temper. Here is an article that talks about using anger to get more out of your mate, or those you deal with.

    http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn19232-did-emotions-evolve-to-push-others-into-cooperation.html

    What you want to do in relationship is give lots of positive feedback at first, then give less and less over time, but still give good occasional rewards. At the same time you want to become more and more displeased and even angry at your expectations not being met.

    Do that, and you can raise the overall level of satisfaction and harmony, by being in control and dominant.

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  550. Bhetti
    “He has no kids. The reason he has no kids is because of the various pathologies of his society stemming ultimately from feminism.”
    –> Cop out, this is weak enough that it pretty badly compromises the rest of what you’re saying.
    I’m sure the truth is closer to he just didn’t have kids because he couldn’t be bothered to deal with the rather large dent that they would put in his oh so alpha playboy life style. And I’d even have respected that if you’d written it, different folks different strokes and all that.
    But what you’ve got here, which is pretty close to “waaaaa poor boy couldn’t handle having a family in a society that would offer a challenge”… not cool, my dear.

    And this, from Doug –> “She will get married though. As well if she found someone super it just might happens sooner than planned. I’d certainly not stand in the way.”
    –> That’s creepy, even thinking that he *could* “stand in the way” to start with. I mean what would he do, write an e-mail in really harsh tones? Hehe.

    Finally, Bhetti, I’m pretty sure that you’re not inclined to answer my questions at this point, but I’m pretty sure everyone else wants to know the following:
    You wrote, “Doug’s motivated me to change a lot of things in my life for the positive thanks to him”
    –> Like what?
    This answer will be especially curious considering that you were already pretty much on the straight ‘n’ narrow in the first place. Religion, medical school, no drugs, etc…. not exactly a delinquent fuck-up to start with. What “lot of things” did you have to change, thanks to a deep handsome electronic voice?

    Folks if we’ve got anything here, I think what we have is a pretty good illustration of **just how easy it is to get your emotional hooks into someone who’s young, naive and hasn’t had any relationships**.
    Chic if there’s anything here for beta’s to take notes on, that would be it — girls with 0 experience are pretty easy to bond to you.

    Xsplat, I feel you man, smell is important. And so is sexual chemistry. Without those you’re ultimately just a book club (although some girls are pretty close with their book clubs lol)

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  551. Rum, unfortunately, Xsplat is right in too many cases. It’s not love though. It’s over entitlement. Some women just can’t take no for an answer, probably because it wasn’t said to them enough while growing up.

    This is one reason why part of good game is to not be capitulating, and to be mildly scary in the way that a guy’s supposed to be. It not only gets the juices flowing, but filters out chicks who’ll freak out when a guy disagrees with them or doesn’t give them what they want. Psychological self defense.

    Still, even if you’re careful, when you screw round enough, eventually you’re going to catch a bad one. It’s part of the game. Be prepared.

    Xsplat, sending each other things through the mail can tell you whether or not you’ll have scent chemistry.

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  552. i have often considered marketing doug and bhetti’s public internet affair as a free, effective alternative to ipecac

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  553. “Xsplat, sending each other things through the mail can tell you whether or not you’ll have scent chemistry.”

    No it can’t.

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  554. Audrey says, “Folks if we’ve got anything here, I think what we have is a pretty good illustration of **just how easy it is to get your emotional hooks into someone who’s young, naive and hasn’t had any relationships**.
    Chic if there’s anything here for beta’s to take notes on, that would be it — girls with 0 experience are pretty easy to bond to you.”

    You say that as if it was a bad thing.

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  555. audrey Chic if there’s anything here for beta’s to take notes on, that would be it — girls with 0 experience are pretty easy to bond to you.

    and that would make since as many of the bitter beteas don’t want to work for a relationship and want to be the “only one” for their wives or girlfriends.

    xsplat Do that, and you can raise the overall level of satisfaction and harmony, by being in control and dominant.

    Or knife in your back and a ratings boost for Oprah during the season sweeps .

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  556. Chic if there’s anything here for beta’s to take notes on, that would be it — girls with 0 experience are pretty easy to bond to you.”

    You say that as if it was a bad thing.

    Low hanging fruit.

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  557. Xsplat says about snail mail sniffies, “No it can’t.”

    It’s not going to be the same as live, but I think it’d be close enough.

    Have a girl send you a t-shirt she wore on a day she was ovulating, and in a separate bag, one she wore just before her period. Then you’ll know what she smells like when she’s fertile and when she’s not.

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  558. “You say that as if it was a bad thing”
    –> Nope not at all, for most guys
    lol

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  559. Xsplat, I understand you don’t value virginity, but would you rather date a woman who trusted you or one who didn’t?

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  560. dana
    i have often considered marketing doug and bhetti’s public internet affair as a free, effective alternative to ipecac

    *Doug gives an alpha laugh and struts off to the beat of bitter beta and 40 year hag on a the rag hateraid*

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  561. @ Nicole

    There are men who are’nt in the least attracted to the tomboyish, pencile thin woman BUT they won’t even go near woman who resemble a baby hippo.

    These days you have a bunch of “big, beautiful woman” who foolishly think that there is a large group of men who are attracted to them but don’t want the backlash from society & the media, even though it’s all about BBW now.

    Most men want the happy medium

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  562. Nicole
    Let me type real slow so that you can follow.
    Hypergamy. Either none of them want your cock or all of them do. Sometimes it is not clear which is more conducive to a long life.
    Do you have any idea how strange and twisted it feels to have a woman arrested, dragged off in cuffs, who was not so long ago worshipping your cock? It should not be that way but sometimes it is.

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  563. Nicole

    Xsplat, I understand you don’t value virginity, but would you rather date a woman who trusted you or one who didn’t?

    What kind of crazy non sequitur it that? From whence comes the connection from virginity and trust?

    Ohhh – you mean only virgins stay faithful?!

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  564. William, who was talking about fat chicks?

    Some obese chicks get social proofed too, while fit women are put down.

    When I say ugly gets social proofed into beauty, and mangina falls for it, I’m not exempting fat.

    In fact, I think we’re about on the cusp of a campaign to get people to glorify fatness so the powers that be can avoid telling people the truth about it.

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  565. No, Xsplat. I’m saying that virgin or not, a woman being able to bond without putting a guy through hell is a good thing. Wouldn’t you rather be with someone who trusted you?

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  566. Nicole – low hanging fruit.

    Just because it’s easier to bond with virgins, doesn’t mean it’s not worth the effort to build up a bond with someone who bonds less easily.

    It isn’t only virgins who can bond. It isn’t only virgins who can bond deeply.

    Low hanging fruit.

    Hot sensual chicks with high estradial and sex hormone levels are going to be a risk for life – no matter when you bond with them.

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  567. Chic, this one is better:

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  568. one of the most interesting behavioral tropes women exhibit is the constant assertion that your dislike of something has nothing to do with its inherent disgusting nature, but has its genesis in some character defect on your part

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  569. Xsplat says, “Hot sensual chicks with high estradial and sex hormone levels are going to be a risk for life – no matter when you bond with them.”

    I agree, but these women can also be very hurt from sleeping around too much. What too much is depends on the woman and her personal resillience as well as her reasons for doing it.

    However, their tendencies would make them low hanging fruit, virgins or not. In fact, someone who’s had a taste and knows what she’s missing might have fallen on the tarp from a good shake already.

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  570. Nicole, your original question was about a woman’s bonding ability. Women with high sex drive are not low hanging fruit in the department of bonding. So you imply. So I imply that virgins are low hanging fruit in the department of bonding.

    Get it?

    Let’s not mix up metaphors about that.

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  571. Woops – I meant women with high sex drives are not low hanging fruit in the department of fuck me. They are higher hanging fruit in the department of bonding.

    But ultimately the choicer fruit.

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  572. Audrey,
    Good response to Bhetti.

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  573. Rum asks, “Do you have any idea how strange and twisted it feels to have a woman arrested, dragged off in cuffs, who was not so long ago worshipping your cock? It should not be that way but sometimes it is.”

    No, but I have had the unfortunate experience of watching a man go insane from guilt for having wronged me.

    I suppose that he was wishing for stalking that didn’t happen, and therefore his presumption of higher value didn’t pan out in reality.

    So in a way, you may be fortunate that someone wanted to possess you badly enough to make a criminal and a fool of herself.

    You could be that guy about whom women say “good riddance” when you’re gone.

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  574. If you’re a beginner or intermediate guitar player, do this: play Skynyrd’s “Simple Man.” Just the intro alone is rich. Simple C, G, and Am chords, with cascading arpegiation. Find a Youtube lesson on picking if needed. Very satisfying to play.

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  575. yoda

    “let’s make the test…. send your wittiest and incomprehensible texts, negs, psych domination, etc… then invite the chick into your mom’s moldy basement to close the deal and tell her that’s where you live. We’ll see how well your game stands up to flagrant loserdom with with Georgetown or Upper East Side chickies.”

    roosh used to live in his dad’s basement, didn’t he?

    “Try coming back from work one day and tell your Russian fiance that you lost your job. See how long it takes for her to dump your game expertise ass.”

    better than butthex in courtroom

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  576. nicole that was cute 🙂

    but why did chamillionare just walk past that redhead beta. You know what that type of video will do? It will being the wrath of whiskey.

    *whiskey takes makes his way on over*

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  577. Chic Noir—

    You’re a sweetheart

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  578. Nicole—

    You too Nicole.

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  579. Audrey–

    Such a threatened feminist little girl. Feminist worldview much? Yougooogirrrrrlllll ugly entitled post feminist.

    Get a clue. Soft polygamy goes on a whole lot these days. And some before these days. Blame your cherished slut enabling and female sexual restraint demonizing (“patriarchy”) feminism. I’m swimming in the sea that feminism created. I’d prescribe something different for the health of Western society. I’m sure as hell not gonna be a sacrificial lamb, or a sheep in the herd.

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  580. Laura

    Audrey,
    Good response to Bhetti.

    Clueless response dimwit. Girls trying to round up a possy of group disapproval response, when in fact that’s not how real girls respond to real alpha guys in these feminist slut permission days.

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  581. Audrey–

    his oh so alpha playboy life style

    Oh the horrors!!!!! Though you’d have to add loving and semi in there to be accurate these days.

    So, so threatened aren’t you harridan? Poster girl for American feminist yougogrrrrlll yuuck.

    And this, from Doug –> “She will get married though. As well if she found someone super it just might happens sooner than planned. I’d certainly not stand in the way.”

    –> That’s creepy, even thinking that he *could* “stand in the way” to start with. I mean what would he do, write an e-mail in really harsh tones? Hehe.

    Yeah read it and weep – and be “creeped” out. Hahahaha. Yes I have a whole lot of influence over Bhetti (and two others RL). Cause that’s what she craves. Which I use for the good. You’ll never understand. And god are you emotionally unattractive. Who with choices would want you? American feminist termagant.

    Oh and what Bhetti was referring to re: kids is uber feminist American divorce law and family courts 2.0 these days. Study up. Including here. Including me here in archives, voluminously. No I don’t want to sign up for that, with America’s 50% divorce rate initiated 2.5x as often by women. Of course I as a knowledgeable American male with some options don’t want to subject myself to that.

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  582. You say that as if it was a bad thing.

    Low hanging fruit.

    Xsplat. Speaking derisively of low hanging fruit.

    I can’t make this shit up, folks.

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  583. Why is that Tupac – didn’t you understand the concept? The best lays are likely to be more experienced and less easy to snag with charisma and great sex as a fully bonded mate?

    Or were you just going in for the low hanging fruit of an easy jab.

    You’d think you had an aversion to understanding my point.

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  584. Here are a few other thoughts many men find hard to cognize. Women who hold out for marriage before they put out are simply demanding a much higher price for their pussy. They don’t stay with you out of love and devotion. They stay for security. That’s the highest possible price to pay.

    And:
    1) You have no clue how you will feel towards your wife after she turns 50.
    2) You have no clue how she will feel towards you at that time.

    It is clearly wishful thinking to think we can predict the future on such matters.

    Women who stay with you for sex and romance and don’t demand marriage are the ideal for a man. You don’t pay them either in money or security.

    Most men actually want a security whore. BUt they can’t admit it.

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  585. Oh the horrors!!!!! Though you’d have to add loving and semi in there to be accurate these days.

    So, so threatened aren’t you harridan? Poster girl for American feminist yougogrrrrlll yuuck.

    nice little tirade there doug

    don’t think audrey was going all uberfeminist on the board so much as seh was calling out you on your so-called “alpha” lifestyle. whether she’d have a problem with you being an alpha playboy is moot–because you clearly are not one.

    what makes you alpha again? that you have one live-in girlfriend, a fling and an internet relationship? yeah, so does my friend tim, the one whose idea of a saturday night is xbox 360 and six cases of mountain dew.

    work on the stories, big guy.

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  586. Tupac, there is an old saying; marry an ugly girl.

    The best women are the highest risk. This goes not just for looks, but for their sex drives and fun loving risk taking attitudes.

    It’s a trade off. If you want security, you have no choice but to trade off on qualities that make the girl wanted by other men, and her likely to want other men. Mainly beauty and sex drive.

    So marry an ugly girl who will never be tempted then, if you want that low hanging fruit.

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  587. X-Splat — I don’t think Tupac was being an asshole, other than in the good natured frat boy backslapping type of way. I mean, most of the men I know are constantly trading jabs back and forth with their buddies, I think that’s all Tupac was doing. Although electronically yeah it’s hard to tell.

    I give you “props” though, for being one of the few guys here to understand that virgin’s aren’t all they’re cracked up to be.
    Heres the way I always think about it, think about the way people are w/ living in different countries. One type of person will be satisfied living in the country they’ve always lived in, the other will get wander lust and will always feel like moving again, even if things are perfect where they are.
    Same with sex and relationships. If you can get the first type of girl, one who will be happy with the first relationship she’s ever lived in, then you should snag her as a virgin, she won’t have too much curiosity about other relationships and will even be fearful of change if she gets unhappy.
    If you get the second type of girl, though, the one whose equivalent to getting wander lust — you *don’t* want her as a virgin, because then she’ll want to go visit all those other countries haha lol
    You’d better off snagging her later, when she’s had enough experience to know you’re the best and will appreciate you so much more than someone who just has “blind patriotism” from the only relationship she’s ever known.
    Xsplat you are right about this one. Not that I am implying which side of this spectrum I’m on, that would take too much fun out of the speculation of wild eyed rant ‘n’ rave types like dougie up there. hehe

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  588. Doug “Get a clue. Soft polygamy goes on a whole lot these days.”
    –> Doug um, yeah, I’m a woman, I think I’d know haha. Although granted yes, I would not know about anything about the wild world of soft E-polygamy 2.0 care to enlighten me? Lol

    “And some before these days. Blame your cherished slut enabling and female sexual restraint demonizing (“patriarchy”) feminism. I’m swimming in the sea that feminism created. I’d prescribe something different for the health of Western society. I’m sure as hell not gonna be a sacrificial lamb, or a sheep in the herd.”
    –> Doug I thought you were the same guy who likes to rail on and on about male leadership, etc. Like, *men* should be the ones who have the balls to go against the prevailing wind, and make changes and so on. And *men* should be the ones who are not risk averse, and should fight for change even if certain losses are a possibility.
    And then here you are, saying ooooohh noooo not me, I don’t want to shake things up, I like things just the way they are but let me talk into the wind just a bit about what I’d do if I were magically transported into world power. Big talk, anyone can talk big my man.
    Why don’t you go out and *do* something about it, what do you have to lose? You say you’re already independently wealthy, so you’ve got no career to lose to the corporate PC whores. You don’t have any kids, or a wife, or anyone else you could lose (whether physically or emotionally) So, what? Why are you sitting in an ideal position to make changes, with all your self proclaimed power of influence, and yet doing *nothing* about it? Other than coming on here and namecalling like a bitter divorcee after five vodka shots?

    Also if feminism is getting you such a nice little pussy empire then why all the bitterness about it, that’s such a bitchy thing to do. At least as the self appointed alpha figure around here you could adopt a consistent attitude toward this stuff? Gee wiz man lol

    “Yeah read it and weep – and be “creeped” out. Hahahaha. Yes I have a whole lot of influence over Bhetti (and two others RL). Cause that’s what she craves. Which I use for the good.”
    –> Hahahaha indeed oooohh man this is getting good.
    Dude if you could actually influence Betti’s marriage decisions over a wireless connection that doesn’t speak to your power at all, it just means that she’s sort of pathetic.

    Oh and who’s the second other one in real life? Your island threesome girl?
    Why does everything have to be a *relationship* with you, dude? *That* is what’s creepy about the whole thing, you don’t just want to get laid, you actually want multiple co-dependent “love relationships”. OMG scary dude. ssccaaaaaaarrryyy lol, I hope Betti is at least getting some of her med school tuition paid out of this, mr. rich man with no kids and nothing else to spend it on. Haha

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  589. bhetti:

    However, Mark’s either calling me a liar/calling out an exaggeration (which to my knowledge I’m not; this is the strongest I’ve ever felt and Doug’s motivated me to change a lot of things in my life for the positive thanks to him)

    look, i’m not calling you a liar. it’s entirely possible that you have these deep feelings for someone you’ve never even had a face-to-face conversation with. i won’t deny that that does happen. however, that does not make what you have a “real” relationship. it makes what you and doug do not have–ahem, lives–painfully obvious to everyone else. in short, you read as a low-self-esteem-potential-suicide-case with no real life friends who finds “connections” on the internet.

    or saying I’m hallucinating (I’ve not taken anything… or am I schizophrenic on top of the low self-esteem?).

    well at least you admit to the low self esteem.

    It’s probably not important to Doug but he’s been pretty important to me.

    what hte fuck is this? this sentence makes you sound pathetic, but understandable, and it just makes doug sound pathetic.

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  590. Absolutely, Audrey, and I’ve put the point in similar ways. A girl who has been around and stays with you because you’re the best she ever hopes to get is a strong foundation for a relationship. Arguably stronger than a girl who stays with you out of duty or habit. Certainly more fulfilling.

    They say that food is tastier when you earn it through hard work.

    If your chemistry with a girl can compete on the sexual marketplace against her chemistry with other men, you’ve earned it. You didn’t just rely on her super-fast bonding by snagging her before she knows any better.

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  591. I hope Betti is at least getting some of her med school tuition paid out of this, mr. rich man with no kids and nothing else to spend it on. Haha

    nice.

    “please send face/cock pic and check for 50,000 lbs”

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  592. nicole~

    “Why would conversations over the internet be any less real than on the phone, or sitting in a room?”

    r u serious? there r so many facets to real lyf convos that just do not exist over teh internet or on teh phone! 4 example, on teh phone u can hear sum1 but not see or smell or touch them…think of all the little things you learn about sum1 just by seeing how they move and hold themselves. it’s ridiculous to say that talking on the phone is like having a real lyf conversation! they say that the first 30 seconds of meeting sum1 are the most important – y do u think that is?

    obvs it’s not bc of the words they are saying. what can u even say in 30 seconds?

    doug1~

    can sum1 please explain this situation to me? cuz it sounds like doug1 thinks he’s polygamous bc he has got a gf and an online lover. as far as i know, it’s not polygamy unless u’re actually sleeping with the girl, am i right? i hear doug also has a fling but by definition isn’t a fling not a relationship? and there4 does not count in his polygamy count?

    correct me if i’m wrong thx!!

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  594. Lyzy

    डौग इस अ बिग मोथाफुच्का व्हो लिकेस तो बंग चिक्क्स एंड कीप सम ओं साइड, बुत हे इस अल्सो सेंसीटिवे, क्नोव्लेद्गेअब्ले, एंड सुपर स्मार्ट.
    सो शूट थे फुक्क उप बीतच.

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  595. on August 2, 2010 at 7:44 am gunslingergregi

    ”””””Rum
    Nicole
    Let me type real slow so that you can follow.
    Hypergamy. Either none of them want your cock or all of them do. Sometimes it is not clear which is more conducive to a long life.
    Do you have any idea how strange and twisted it feels to have a woman arrested, dragged off in cuffs, who was not so long ago worshipping your cock? It should not be that way but sometimes it is.

    ””””

    On the flipside do you know how awesome it feels to have a whore fall in love with you on second meeting. Sitting on your dick and her pussy is like a hand pump just pumping out juice after juice and vibrating like it was alive as she has like a minute long orgasm and after she is trying to give you a kiss and you back away (thanks gorby now I am watching myself have sex in third person from your speil on orgasms). But you know she would make a good wife becuase yea she just fell in love with your male essense. As she is trying to set up a meeting for free for you and just wants to be a part of your life. So yea she has had the rest and now she wants the best.
    And would put herself to the task of being the best she could be for you. But it still wasn’t enough to make me fall in LOVE. So I am like I only LOVE one woman my wife.
    Mua Mua hahahah

    It is more fullfilling than when I was in shape and getting the normal chicks to fall in love with me. Getting a normal chick to fall in love is like about 0 fucking challenge. Be in shape. Have a job. Or just have money That is all.

    But she never has her free will tested.

    I like being able to put to good use my 1000’s upon 1000’s of hours of fucking experience to spread joy.

    Or lets put it like this I probably didn’t fall in love with chick because christ it was only second meeting and she was in love but yea.

    I am talking the only real gladitorial thing left on planet where a man can fucking let out his inner man and compete at a level with other men on shear prowess is whores.

    Where a man can know not wonder if he is the best.

    Where a man can go down to the base animal level and win.

    Like yea when I met my wife I was fucking the shit out of her every day and it took 2 weeks of that every day before she submitted to me and started having orgasms and told me that she was stopping fucking other guys. I did not care that she was fucking other guys nor ask her to stop. She came up with it on her own.
    I was competing against guys who were more in shape and guys from all over the world. Every color and creed every amount of money making and guys who had more money than me.
    But I won her loyalty. I actually won something of value. I had the pleasure of beating other guys on a primitive playing field.
    So yea not bad he he he

    So then when I got the call to get her the fuck out I did so.

    Every chick that I get with falls in love with me that is not a challenge.

    The challenge is to have a wife like I have when you are down on luck to be there for you because yea you are the one she wants there is no other and she knows it.

    Which can be bad too in a way because she is scared of me ever leaving to point where she would kill me for it.

    So yea I passed her shit test of I will kill you one day by saying kill me now I will let you.
    I make her feel loved I tell her I want to be with her for eternity but apparently there is a primal fear of hers to me leaving her and knowing she could never find a man like me.
    Because she knows that I could get another woman to do what she does but at the same time she doesn’t know that I feel the same way about her. She is my everything but at same time I need to fuck other woman because it is me it is what I do.
    I also need other woman to provide kids it is me.

    No other woman could have given me the same feeling about being a winner in the game of life that she did and for that I feel I owe her my allegience.

    Only other thing that would come close or beating it would prob be gladiator in the colluseum who looks out over the dead bodies of the men he has owned on the field of battle.

    Rum has got me somewhat intrigued on the politics being better than sex though.

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  596. Doug says, “I’m swimming in the sea that feminism created. I’d prescribe something different for the health of Western society. I’m sure as hell not gonna be a sacrificial lamb, or a sheep in the herd.”

    Audrey, pay close attention.

    I also swim in the same sea. A little background on me, I’m a Domme.

    …only I’m not the normal kind who runs around promoting my playtime activities as good for society as a whole. I prefer my primary partner to be as responsibly Dominant or moreso than myself, partly because I believe that it’s relative, and that there are blind spots that a female has that a male can cover. I haven’t yet met a submissive guy who could do that for me, but hey, anything can happen. I’m just not banking on exceptions.

    The less often written about aspect of my life involves my NBFE (non body fluid exchange) harem of hot boys (over 18).

    A lot of what we say may come off as, “Do as I say, not as I do,” because we have options that most other people don’t. As Xsplat says in a bit more judgmental way than I would, there is a tradeoff. Most of the time, security and fun don’t come in the same package or same kinds of packages.

    A person has to decide for themselves which they’d rather have more of, and go for that. Most people though, don’t have much of a choice of which they’re going to get.

    I’ve noticed that when we get into a conversation that leads us to justify or defend our lifestyle, we have a problem relating to people, and this created arguments and sometimes animosity that shouldn’t be there. You can’t possibly see things from our point of view because you don’t attract the kinds of people we attract or enjoy the same things we enjoy, and may not have the same kinds of choices that we do.

    However, I’m going to attempt to change the frame for you, to the female side, so you can maybe understand a little of what he’s saying.

    I meet many male subs online initially. Some of them are unable to be as out as they’d like to be. Up until the point that we meet in person, I give them the benefit of the doubt, and most are grateful for this, and take the opportunity to open up in a way that they wouldn’t normally.

    Quite often, I find myself in the position of being their game coach. I’ve helped a couple of them to find wives, and more than a couple to manage their wives and girlfriends.

    Guidance is just one of the things a Dominant worth their salt does, and it’s one of those things people constantly come to us for.

    Feminism and the “free love” (read “free sex”) atmosphere has enabled many people who wouldn’t otherwise, talk to some damned body about their desires and needs. This is one of the positives, but it is one of the positives that didn’t require feminism to come about. Secularism and humanism would have sufficed.

    Because feminism poisoned the well, we end up having to do a lot of damage control as part of our “work”.

    Now, I ask you, do you figure that a woman who marries one of my subs or former subs is taking my leftovers?

    If I introduced them to their partner, should that be considered “creepy”?

    Is it her business that I’m the one who ordered him to lift weights and bring me five girl’s phone numbers per week?

    …or should she just enjoy the results?

    Is it not real if most of our communication was online?

    If he lives in Scotland or something, and I’m here, and my guidance scores him a hot Scottish chick, is that influence that I had on him negative or unreal?

    If you wouldn’t judge me the same as Doug, just because I’m female and have done pretty much the same things, then there is some feminism clouding your view.

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  597. on August 2, 2010 at 11:39 am InquiringMind

    What’s more frustrating to the average beta male white guy? White alpha males (20% of white men) with a 100% monopoly on white women, or a small number of black men doing well with normal to slightly attractive white women?

    I reckon the latter given the sizable comment count. Instead, I propose the denizens keep their eye on the ball and focus on the former.

    Josh shows you how far you are from being what women want, it’s either celibacy or you have no choice but to change your ways. A new car won’t help, nor will a $5,000 raise. While you don’t want Josh’s women, they’re trashy, the women you do want THINK like Josh’s women, yeah they do, and you should copy his swagger.

    Your efforts won’t arrest America’s decline, but will at least let you have fun on the way down!

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  598. Bhetti

    Of course your ‘relationship’ with D isn’t a lifetime arrangement-thank the lordy lord!!! But why did you decide to pursue a taken man in the first place? Dig deep!That’s the part that makes my blood boil. I hate hate hate pedofiles and women that flirt with taken men. Two types of people that make extremely stupid choices. Arrgggg!!!!

    Work on my reading skills? What for? To impress you? In the real world my reading skills mean nothing, the slim waist and the cutesy face always gets me a cute boys loving warm embrace.

    Anyhoo, aside from this one stupid online choice, you seem like a sweet, awesome girl. I’m sorry for being so blunt in regards to your need to work on your low self-esteem, but instead of getting defensive perhaps you should take this as a learning opportunity. Everyone in some way or another has low self-esteem or something to work on. I’m far far far from perfect, and surprisingly, I’ve actually learned quite a lot about myself just from exchanging a few comments with you. 🙂

    ps-Doug, you’ve got game! Wow! If I was a man I would definitely be taking notes AND I’d give you a high-five!

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  599. Me, a polygamous man isn’t taken until he runs out of space.

    A loving Dom like Doug…that’s a lot of space.

    How is it a stupid choice?

    Polygamy may not be good for every guy, but for some guys, it’s natural.

    Besides, if we’re being really blunt here, poly guys quite often take the girls nobody else wants.

    When you’re out working your game, are you even looking at the girls who are dressed modestly and wearing little or no makeup?

    Are you looking at the ones who may be a little fat, or a little homely, but are very feminine?

    Femininity hasn’t gone out of fashion for polyamorous guys. They love women, not dolls.

    All three of my husband’s bitches, if you count me, are women other guys try to exploit, but he loves us and takes us seriously.

    So frankly, fuck all you guys who expect us to be sitting around waiting by the phone to be your booty call.

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  600. Oh, and another thing.

    Poly guys are more honest.

    Over the years, I’ve had lots of guys lie to my face about it being okay that I was fat. Some have even started to treat me even worse since I’ve lost a lot of weight. They wanted to keep me ugly and down on myself so it would be easier for them to use me or take me for granted.

    Shai is the one partner who didn’t lie to me. He loved me even though I was fat, but still encouraged me to improve myself.

    So all you dudes out there talking about monogamy, who are unwilling to date a woman who is fat, again, fuck yourselves.

    If you believed in even distribution, you’d be more focussed on personality than looks. Since you’re all scrambling in the bottleneck to get to the hot girls, don’t expect us not so hot girls to be sitting alone.

    We’ll go where we’re wanted, even if it means sharing.

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  601. on August 2, 2010 at 5:52 pm Just A Horny Dude

    White girls bangin’ ghetto trash make me sick. Makes sense, though, if you follow the masculine-feminine analysis that Steve Sailer discusses. Obviously these girls really, really wanted a strong masculine presence. Not too many “respectable” white guys have that these days. In fact, I’d argue that “respectability” nowadays is just the opposite. That’s why we have so many wimpy beta swpl types. Feminism has softened and domesticated most men, so now women go after a smaller pool of “strong” males, including this kind of ghetto trash. What an effed up society we have. I agree, we’re doomed. In 100 years, America will look like Idiocracy crossed with Road Warrior. A pathetic, nightmare world. Eventually an army of chinese automatons will conquer us.

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  602. on August 2, 2010 at 8:38 pm gunslingergregi

    Yea but dude it was like that 20 years ago when I was hanging with doctor’s daughters and shit.

    ””””””on August 2, 2010 at 11:39 am InquiringMind
    What’s more frustrating to the average beta male white guy? White alpha males (20% of white men) with a 100% monopoly on white women, or a small number of black men doing well with normal to slightly attractive white women?

    I reckon the latter given the sizable comment count. Instead, I propose the denizens keep their eye on the ball and focus on the former.

    Josh shows you how far you are from being what women want, it’s either celibacy or you have no choice but to change your ways. A new car won’t help, nor will a $5,000 raise. While you don’t want Josh’s women, they’re trashy, the women you do want THINK like Josh’s women, yeah they do, and you should copy his swagger.

    Your efforts won’t arrest America’s decline, but will at least let you have fun on the way down!
    ”””””””””
    Well they hate the white boys too. Ever hear the term redneck. he he he

    But yea obviosly most power you are gonna have as you get older is to have game, and loot. Gives you ability to almost do whatever the fuck you want.

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  603. People disscuss killing babies, killing off races of people, the country going to hell but two random people on the internet who have found some sort of love for one another gets people really pissed… wow… just wow!

    mark you’re the biggest hater in the bunch. so much for that male revolution.

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  604. @Bhetti

    J: Whilst I don’t support the idea of cheating as a social norm, I definitely dislike the idea of cheating as a dealbreaker. The irony is that it is particularly should not be one in your case. You presumably married a man who has good values and honour. If he is so torn, so conflicted, that he has cheated, perhaps it would be better if you sat down and considered exactly what happened, that you both somehow messed up the relationship, instead of instantly breaking your family and blaming that completely on him.

    I think, because of some of the vitriol of the argument here, that you may have gotten the wrong impression. The discussion was hypothetical. Neither my husband nor I have ever cheated on each other.

    Bhetti, I did indeed marry a very honorable man. If he cheated on my, even due to some problem in the relationship, he would in my mind cease to be the honorable guy that I married. Since his honor was one of the reasons I chose him, the loss of it would be highly destructive to the marriage.

    Being that Islam still alllows polygamy, I suppose the marriage vows may be different and that, as a Musllim woman, you may have grown up with the idea that a second woman in the relationship was a possiblilty–however remote that may be for you personally as a Westernized Muslim. In the Judeo-Christian religions, where both partners promise to be monogamous, Western women have little expectation of being displaced by a second woman. It’s not a cultural norm, but a violation of a norm. It’s the breaking of a promise and the abandonment of honor. It’s a rare Western woman who can easily slough off infidelty or see it as the woman’s responsibilty to prevent the man from being so discontented that he’d look elsewhere.

    One benefit/curse of monogamy is that, if you really take it seriously, it forces you confront problems in the relationship BEFORE you look elsewhere for solace. Bringing in a third party, unless everyone has agreed to polyamory, is bound to be a stessor as it takes focus off the unity of the couple as one party seeks relief from the responsibility of the marriage with another person. The focus moves outward toward relief rather than inward towards each other and working out the problem. And, in most cases, it is also unfair to involve a third party as that person will get short shrift in the relationship. I suppose there are exceptions to that rule, but most people don’t find the marriage improved by the addition of another person.

    Although I have never been cheated on, I know women who have stayed in their marriages after learning that the husband was unfaithful. It’s never turned out that marriage was better for it. Instead, I’ve seen bitter women staying in loveless marriages for the sake of the kids, unable to forgive the man.

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  605. on August 3, 2010 at 1:38 am Ceyx and Alycone

    “This is a classic example of female rationalization. Obviously white trash? How is this “obvious”? What do you know about them that we don’t? There are many among us who often see women, whom you’d think can do better, choosing trash. How often does some princess decide that someone is a loser, only to have him sweep her off her feet with a little bit of mocking game? It happens all the time. Be careful. It might happen to you some time.”

    It’s not female rationalization. It’s obvious, and if you can’t see it and need an explanation, then you’re out. It has nothing to do with them being female, and everything to do with the *type* of individual to whom they’re attracted.

    There are levels of trash by the way, and this is pretty far down there. If it were two guys fighting over a trashy, uneducated girl, I would judge them just as harshly. If you have to ask, you lose. Also, I don’t know *anyone* who was raised properly that would refer to herself as a “princess,” or any guy who would refer to her as such.

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  606. It’s not female rationalization. It’s obvious, and if you can’t see it and need an explanation, then you’re out. It has nothing to do with them being female, and everything to do with the *type* of individual to whom they’re attracted.

    I confess… I did not do a whole lot of research on this story. I simply followed through the links in Chateau’s post and I was unable to glean much more beyond this level. If you extended your reading beyond this level, then fine… you can answer my question, “What do you know about them that I don’t?” And after you explain yourself, maybe then we might be able to reach agreement.

    First, a clarification is in order… What I think of these two women is based on what I know about them in this post. They’ve slutted with a midget thug and allowed their self-indulgent, grasping hamsters to conflate it with “love”. We can know them by their actions and the company they keep. And the company they keep is trash. Perhaps we can agree on this much. But outside of what we know in this post, any further comment that you have to make is just more of your unrestrained, pacing little hamster jumping to conclusions and making unsubstantiated rationalizations.

    These two women? They’re not my type, and I wouldn’t give them the time of day. Much less now, given what we now know of them. But let’s be clear about one thing. Looking beneath the veneer caked on as makeup and fashion, there exists a broad spectrum of women among whom are included “good-but-not-all-that-bright”, homely, college and university-educated girls who are not all that streetwise. Naively, they dress like sluts, oblivious to the mixed messages they send out. Poor, misguided schmucks. You’ve never met this type? I have. But you’re a woman, and that’s what women do. Women jump to conclusions on the basis of untested, superficial, trivial criteria. That’s why social proof and relational aggression work so well on women, and you’re proving in spades. Spellbound, trapped in your bigotry, you allow your unrestrained hamster to grasp at whatever conclusion your feeyalings jump to.

    “It’s obvious”?? hahahaha! It’s not obvious at all… unless you have further information that I don’t. What do you know that I don’t? Fill me in. I’m open. After all, by my own admission, I haven’t read beyond Chateau’s links.

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  607. on August 3, 2010 at 5:14 am AGUARDIENTE ANTIOQUEÑO SIN AZUCAR

    ^^^ ok we have a default victory
    doug 0:1 audrey

    if we need a tiebreaker, doug, let’s try the Test of Social Proof(tm); what would your buddies think of your electronic affair?
    scoring:
    friends? = -10
    all my friends are electrons = -9.999
    they think it’s grrrreat! = -9.998
    they think t’s grrrreat! and they want to e-mail her inbox fresh from my message = -9.997
    i can’t bring myself to tell them = -7
    they think i’m kidding = -6
    i gave up my friends for my eLuv = -100

    must score at least -5 to advance

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  608. Aguardiente, first of all, don’t speak for others who haven’t asked you to. It’s rude.

    Also, if someone has street cred, then their online activities don’t really matter much.

    Bhetti is Muslim, and has to marry a Muslim man. If Doug is giving her tips on attracting more Dominant, masculine, responsible men, then that takes nothing away from either of them.

    It’s people who don’t take their online interactions as seriously as their offline ones, who are pathetic. They talk trash online they wouldn’t dream of offline, and hide behind their keyboards like wusses.

    Sound familiar?

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  609. Dang…It’s too hot to think here. That should have been worded, “if someone has street cred, then whether or not some of their activities are offline or online doesn’t really matter much.”

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  610. on August 3, 2010 at 7:39 am AGUARDIENTE ANTIOQUEÑO SIN AZUCAR

    Aguardiente, first of all, don’t speak for others who haven’t asked you to. It’s rude.

    i can’t help it
    i have a sharp taste, the aniseed will do that to ya
    and i’m not sweet, either, because i’m XIN AZUCAR

    Also, if someone has street cred, then their online activities don’t really matter much.

    there’s a problemo here
    and that is this:
    el cred de la calle can only be gotten … en la calle
    the information superhighway is not la calle, sorry

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  611. on August 3, 2010 at 7:41 am AGUARDIENTE ANTIOQUEÑO SIN AZUCAR

    It’s people who don’t take their online interactions as seriously as their offline ones, who are pathetic.

    is that true?
    butbutbutbutbut i don’t think you could convince lox antioqueñox that the taste of la aguardiente is as xweet on-line as off-
    and sticks and stones can break my screw cap safety band but online words can never distill me

    They talk trash online they wouldn’t dream of offline, and hide behind their keyboards like wusses.
    Sound familiar?

    ah sí
    mire aquí por eso:
    “Such a threatened feminist little girl. Feminist worldview much? Yougooogirrrrrlllll ugly entitled post feminist.”

    but por que do you feel the need to clean up the mess that doug is leaving en la calle?
    he’s a big boy and should therefore be able to address a simple bottle of licor without flying into a very uncontrolled rage while making random guesses about the feminist tendencies of brand new posters on the board
    …amid, ahem, speaking for anouk who hadn’t asked him to

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  612. Aguardiente, if someone is riding you about your lifestyle, and you don’t get angry, you’re a girl.

    Doug is polyamorous in real life, and took a bit of his time to help a friend online.

    What is your problem with this?

    Again, if someone wouldn’t judge me the same way they’re judging Doug, then there is feminism in their motives. If it’s okay for me to spank naughty boys and coach a few online because I’m female, and not okay for Doug to do because he’s male, then the judges are hypocrites.

    You haters wish you had the inner game to keep Bhetti’s attention.

    …but see, my point is that *nobody else stepped up to the plate*.

    Since Bhetti’s obviously not going to put out to any non Muslims, none of you other guys gave much of a shit.

    Doug and I have had plenty of disagreements, but one thing I can say about the man is that he is a man. He cares enough about women, not just women he’s shagging or has the chance to shag, to not want to see one who is feminine and worthy waste herself on clowns and cads.

    A Dominant man is a leader, and very importantly, recognized by women, not just women he’s shagging.

    When every woman you speak to online or offline, with a drop of estrogen in her blood, recognizes your manhood, then hot girls who are putting out will recognize it too.

    I’m not trying to hate on you. I’d just like you to open your eyes and stop being butthurt because a guy has some game that you don’t.

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  613. on August 3, 2010 at 8:09 am AGUARDIENTE ANTIOQUEÑO SIN AZUCAR

    Aguardiente, if someone is riding you about your lifestyle, and you don’t get angry, you’re a girl

    ah peró no xoy hombre y no xoy mujer
    sinó xoy un licor colombiano (antioqueño no xoy de bogo77a) delicioso!

    and no xoy okey with being riddened no señora that is not the way i play el juego!

    Again, if someone wouldn’t judge me the same way they’re judging Doug, then there is feminism in their motives.

    oh mi cara where do i begin
    de la primera there is the fact that you baxically implied to doug that he was doing his parte to take the unwanted girls that nobody else wants

    and then you diss with disrespect on the hombres monogameños because they no want to be monogameño with las fatties, when in fact es muy more importante that your woman no es fattie if you want to be monogameño!

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  614. on August 3, 2010 at 8:15 am AGUARDIENTE ANTIOQUEÑO SIN AZUCAR

    If it’s okay for me to spank naughty boys and coach a few online because I’m female

    eso no es okey to me, either

    xoy un licor antioqueño and so therefore i shall probably not get casado anytime soon, peró, if i found out that mi novia (or mi novio, if i were a yougogrrrrrrrllllll) had been “spanked en línea” then eso would not be okey with me

    i would begin a comenzar a correr the other way as rápidamente as i could puedo!!!!11111uno1111!!!
    and i think so would la mejor parte of the otros y otras amigos y amigas that i know

    perhaps we are not cool por que xomox antioqueñox hijox de la tierra, but we no take interacciones en línea as seriously as those that are fuera de línea, because they are weird y remote from la real vida

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  615. Doug is polyamorous in real life

    lie 1. live-in gf + supposed “fling” does not equal polyamorous.

    Again, if someone wouldn’t judge me the same way they’re judging Doug, then there is feminism in their motives.

    lie 2. don’t worry. we’re all judging you.

    If it’s okay for me to spank naughty boys and coach a few online

    god keep that shit in the vault. nobody wants to hear about the pathetic stories of an online (read: not real) “domme”

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  616. Aguardiente says, “oh mi cara where do i begin
    de la primera there is the fact that you baxically implied to doug that he was doing his parte to take the unwanted girls that nobody else wants”

    So long as there are suitable but excess women in the market, no man has just cause to tell another man to be monogamous.

    Nowadays, many women are unwanted because they’re more feminine than is currently trendy. Well, they’re wanted, but for exploitation, not for relationships. Too many guys would rather marry whores who’ll take half.

    “and then you diss with disrespect on the hombres monogameños because they no want to be monogameño with las fatties, when in fact es muy more importante that your woman no es fattie if you want to be monogameño!”

    Well, if you believe in someone for everyone, even distribution and all that, then you have to also be okay with not everyone having the best.

    Currently, fat is the new ugliness of American women. It used to be looking like one did hard labor. If 50 years ago, you wouldn’t settle for a woman who looked a little rough around the edges, you’d be alone.

    Now, if you won’t settle for a fat girl, you’ll just be another cock in the carousel, sharing women who are essentially polyandrous.

    So…since you’re jumping on the carousel of polyandrous women, you can’t blame some women for preferring to know the other women a guy is shagging.

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  617. Aguardiente says about spanking, “eso no es okey to me, either”

    I understand that you don’t like it, but deciding that it’s immoral just because you don’t like it is stupid.

    I never understood how people make that jump of illogic, “Because X is unpleasant for me, it must be morally wrong.”

    Liver is unpleasant to me. I would love for there to be a law banning it so I wouldn’t have been pressured to eat it as a kid, and wouldn’t have to watch others eat it or smell it around me.

    Anyway, so what you’re saying is that it’s okay for you to kiss the mouth of a girl with trace amounts of another guy’s cum in it, but it’s not okay for you that she’s done some NBFE roleplay.

    Nice…and so very moral.

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  618. Mark says, “lie 1. live-in gf + supposed “fling” does not equal polyamorous.”

    So you’re a telepath? How do you know how many women he loves, or has loved, or will?

    “lie 2. don’t worry. we’re all judging you.”

    That doesn’t make your judgement important or even merely credible.

    “god keep that shit in the vault. nobody wants to hear about the pathetic stories of an online (read: not real) “domme””

    For crying out loud. I already said I have subs who I play with offline too. Just because I coach a few online, this negates all my offline activity?

    You guys make it too easy to wipe the floor with you. You have no rational argument against Doug…just sore assholes.

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  619. on August 3, 2010 at 8:56 am AGUARDIENTE ANTIOQUEÑO SIN AZUCAR

    Now, if you won’t settle for a fat girl, you’ll just be another cock in the carousel, sharing women who are essentially polyandrous.

    ah sí peró nooooo
    you see, i no mind if las hotties have been drunk on los otros licores antes de mi, por que once they’ve had demasiado aguardiente ANTIOQUEÑO (hijo de la tierra no xoy de bogo77a!!) they will totalmente no remember all those otros, y yo seré the solo licor in their lives at least for the time being

    and as i said, xoy un licor (delicioso pero no xoy de bogo77a) and so i will not be getting casado anytime soon, and entonces i no tengo problemo with las hotties who have drunk otros licores antes de mi
    in fact this only means that esas hotties seran muy more likely to appreciate el sabor de aguardiente ANTIOQUEÑO (no de bogo77a!!) in comparison to all the other two bit licores de los estados unidos

    but the truth is that yo xoy el primero licor del bar, and las hotties will come to me, and will even be like vamos vamos a pagar! they are willing a pagar para mi awesome sabor, so no tengo problemos con ellas.
    lo siento for the poor señores who van a pagar for the drinks de las hotties, they actually pagan a mi. it is truly paraíso en la tierra (especially por que xoy hijo de la tierra, no putox de bogo77a).

    So long as there are suitable but excess women in the market, no man has just cause to tell another man to be monogamous.

    donde did you get eso?

    no es my lugar to tell people que hacer. if los otros want to be monogameños is okey, just as es okey if los otros no want to be monogameños. i no care, por que the poor señores ya van a pagar for the drinks de las hotties!

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  620. on August 3, 2010 at 9:01 am AGUARDIENTE ANTIOQUEÑO SIN AZUCAR

    I understand that you don’t like it, but deciding that it’s immoral just because you don’t like it is stupid.

    ay dios mio, donde are you getting these cosas?

    i never said que son estúpidas, i just said that no me gustan. no es moral judgment, mi amor. to each su proprio! bájate con tu bad self!

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  621. Aguardiente says, “in fact this only means that esas hotties seran muy more likely to appreciate el sabor de aguardiente ANTIOQUEÑO (no de bogo77a!!) in comparison to all the other two bit licores de los estados unidos”

    Keep telling yourself that.

    I suppose the good news is that if you have any dignity, you’ll eventually get tired of that, stop hating on Doug, and ask him how he did it.

    Aren’t you the least bit curious about how a guy wins the trust and admiration of a woman of a faith that makes her physically inaccessible to him?

    I’ll give you a hint. It’s the same thing that brought me across an ocean even though I’d have no problem finding a picket fence dream in my hometown.

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  622. let me make it real fucking simple nicole.

    doug claims to be alpha yet brags about his online relationship. real people with real world experience know that any man who claims to have “fallen in love” over the internet probably doesn’t have a whole lot of experience with woman. we can thus conclude that doug’s purported alpha-ness is suspect.

    i’d have no problem with doug being alpha if i believed for one second that doug was alpha. he’s clearly not, since the only females he’s managed to have an effect on are either (1) lonely muslims with low self-esteem, or (2) batshit insane.

    you are batshit insane, but at least your self-esteem’s improving.

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  623. AGUARDIENTE ANTIOQUEÑO SIN AZUCAR

    WHAT???!!!

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  624. on August 3, 2010 at 9:19 am AGUARDIENTE ANTIOQUEÑO SIN AZUCAR

    Aren’t you the least bit curious about how a guy wins the trust and admiration of a woman of a faith that makes her physically inaccessible to him?

    ah sí …. peró nooooo, no es necessary.

    first, curiosity ha matado al gato. no want to be como el gato, i prefer no ser muerte! no es possible to sing el vamos vamos medellín! si xoy muerte!

    second, xoy un licor delicioso ANTIOQUEÑO (hijo de la tierra no xoy de bogo77a!!) y poderoso, something like 60 por ciento del proof. once la mujer has imbibed even un bit pequeño of my awesome sabor, no hay ningún problema in getting her trust y admiration!
    and the best parte is, a la mañana when the trust y admiration have worn off, todavía no hay ningún problema, because toda her cabeza will be dolorosa, and therefore she will have ningún thoughts except for deliciosos thoughts ANTIOQUEÑOS (no thoughts de bogo77a!!)

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  625. We definitely need more Hispanics commenting here. There’s nothing like talking about sex in another language to improve one’s proficiency.

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  626. on August 3, 2010 at 9:42 am AGUARDIENTE ANTIOQUEÑO SIN AZUCAR

    sdaedalus

    ah sí … peró … sí!!

    let me get you started a comenzar:
    “lox del rojo / lox hijox del norte” –> sexy, sexy people whose color is rojo (red)
    “lax putax xureñax” –> ugly, ugly people (some of whom are feminist yougofeministggrrrrllllll feministas) whose color is verde (green)

    lox del cabello rojo, including you irlandeses, are quite sexy; yo no tengo ningún problema with fucking the chochas rojas calientes. mmmmm

    but you started eso; i never said nada about sex, i said solamente that they are willing a pagar para mi awesome sabor al bar. what happens en el boudoir, after salir del bar, stays en el boudoir; yo xoy much, much too suave to start dishando de los details of what happens con todas esas hotties. usted tiene una imaginación; úsela!
    ustedes women are all las mismas, siempre thinkando about sex all the time at the slightest whiff pequeño de aguardiente ANTIOQUEÑO (hijo de la tierra no xoy de bogo77a!!). naughty naughty!

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  627. Mark says, “let me make it real fucking simple nicole.

    doug claims to be alpha yet brags about his online relationship.”

    Actually, Bhetti was closer to bragging than he was. I didn’t even know it reached victorian level until this thread.

    Most of the hard information came out only because people were riding them about it. Someone responding to haters isn’t bragging. It’s defending or clarifying.

    “real people with real world experience know that any man who claims to have “fallen in love” over the internet probably doesn’t have a whole lot of experience with woman. we can thus conclude that doug’s purported alpha-ness is suspect.”

    Apparently, you haven’t had enough experience with women to understand that online romances happen all the time, especially as soon as an alpha puts his hands to the keyboard. It’s called “inner game”. If you have it, then it comes across in who you are whether you’re talking in front of a crowd or online.

    For someone who’s living the life, the internet is just another form of communication.

    Doug is probably also old enough to remember the good old days when one actually had to have some brainpower to use the internet. Back then, there wasn’t so much an online and offline separation. We used the internet to enhance our offline lives, not as a replacement for having a life.

    “i’d have no problem with doug being alpha if i believed for one second that doug was alpha. he’s clearly not, since the only females he’s managed to have an effect on are either (1) lonely muslims with low self-esteem, or (2) batshit insane.”

    Ah…the telepathy…

    “you are batshit insane, but at least your self-esteem’s improving.”

    The weak are confident. The strong are qualified.

    A person doesn’t really need self esteem so long as they have a healthy respect for life, and accomplish things that let them know that they’re doing more for this world than wasting air.

    As for my sanity, I do seem insane to people who are too socially dependent. However, if you were getting shit on because everyone else didn’t like you even though you’d done nothing wrong to them, you would hope there was someone like me around…crazy enough to stand when everyone else is crawling.

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  628. Sir eres tan encantador.

    Puedo decir que su discreción es inusual y refrescante en este foro en particular, donde la mayoría de carteles tienden a errar por el lado de demasiada información.

    Espero que no me están llamando travieso.

    Desgraciadamente mi spanglish, como yo, es muy malo, pero soy una buena estudiante …

    Por favor, siéntase libre para corregir mi gramática, según proceda.

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  629. Actually, Bhetti was closer to bragging than he was. I didn’t even know it reached victorian level until this thread.

    well read up. don’t blame me for your ignorance.

    It’s called “inner game”. If you have it, then it comes across in who you are whether you’re talking in front of a crowd or online.

    it’s called “desperate losers on the internet.”

    As for my sanity, I do seem insane to people who are too socially dependent.

    case in point: you are arguing with, and taking entirely seriously, a bottle of colombian liquor

    you’re taking the internet too seriously. it’s time to go see the sun.

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  630. how embarrassing

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  631. Folks…..move on!!

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  632. on August 3, 2010 at 10:15 am AGUARDIENTE ANTIOQUEÑO SIN AZUCAR

    sdaedalus —

    ah sí …. peró nooooo, eres taaaaann linda when you write en tu único dialecto! xiento un strange y wonderful calor de love en mi coraxón para tu!

    mi darling, i learned a una early edad that one should not reveal demasiado, por que el mystery es mucho más powerful que endless listas de cock y toro stories.
    eso es sometimes muy difficult for me, por que after all xoy un poderoso licor ANTIOQUEÑO (hijo de la tierra no xoy de bogo77a!!) and you know lo que diga el wise man: “in vino veritas” y all that. peró tengo shaolin levels de self-control y therefore no me siento the need de dirte tiresome stories in an effort estúpida a impressing you. es certain que my nombre all by itself — aguardiente ANTIOQUEÑO (no de bogo77a!!) — es sufficient para instilling en tu mind y coraxón un imagen sexy y irresistible de mi.

    y erex del rojo!! oh pobrecito yo, oh mi coraxón!

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  633. Gracias.

    La discreción en un hombre es una mercancía tristemente subestimado (alta, el Sr. pasamontañas!)

    Tengo que volver a trabajar ahora, pero estoy seguro que vamos a hablar de nuevo.

    Es cierto lo que dicen, a veces el amor se puede encontrar en la parte inferior de una botella.

    Me alegro de que al igual que mi Inglés en Irlanda tanto como yo de su “spanglish”.

    ¡Hasta la próxima

    SDaedalus

    PS:Una vez más, por favor siéntase libre de corregirme en su caso

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  634. AASA

    Solo para aclarar, no soy una pelirroja, alas.

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  635. on August 3, 2010 at 10:59 am gunslingergregi

    ””””””AGUARDIENTE ANTIOQUEÑO SIN AZUCAR
    Aren’t you the least bit curious about how a guy wins the trust and admiration of a woman of a faith that makes her physically inaccessible to him?

    ah sí …. peró nooooo, no es necessary.

    first, curiosity ha matado al gato. no want to be como el gato, i prefer no ser muerte! no es possible to sing el vamos vamos medellín! si xoy muerte!

    second, xoy un licor delicioso ANTIOQUEÑO (hijo de la tierra no xoy de bogo77a!!) y poderoso, something like 60 por ciento del proof. once la mujer has imbibed even un bit pequeño of my awesome sabor, no hay ningún problema in getting her trust y admiration!
    and the best parte is, a la mañana when the trust y admiration have worn off, todavía no hay ningún problema, because toda her cabeza will be dolorosa, and therefore she will have ningún thoughts except for deliciosos thoughts ANTIOQUEÑOS (no thoughts de bogo77a!!)

    ”””””””’

    lol dude wtf how come I can understand you. Funny shit

    ”””’but you started eso; i never said nada about sex, i said solamente that they are willing a pagar para mi awesome sabor al bar. what happens en el boudoir, after salir del bar, stays en el boudoir; yo xoy much, much too suave to start dishando de los details of what happens con todas esas hotties. usted tiene una imaginación; úsela!
    ustedes women are all las mismas, siempre thinkando about sex all the time at the slightest whiff pequeño de aguardiente ANTIOQUEÑO (hijo de la tierra no xoy de bogo77a!!). naughty naughty!

    ”””””’
    But sometimes you can look in 3d at yourself doing shit for the benefit of others so they don’t just have porn to mimic he he he

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  636. Mark whined, “it’s called “desperate losers on the internet.”|

    No, it’s called sour grapes.

    Again, if you won’t hit it, someone else will. Don’t expect girls you rejected or overlooked to be alone just because you didn’t man up.

    What methods a man uses to get laid or to get attention from quality women should be none of your concern.

    Get off your ass, and go get some of your own.

    It’ll make you less crochety.

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  637. Gotta love that low cost of living in Florida where 17 year old high school dropouts can get a minimum wage job and rent their own apartment. Where I live in NYC, it’s common for 27 year old teachers and cops to live with parents.

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  638. Such stories do happen, but are much too rare to draw conclusions from – it’s nesworthy because it’s odd. If it happenned every day, it would not have been in the paper.

    Not that I pedestalize women. But much more prevalent is the other way around – women having guys fighting over them instead of killing each other. And women having guys drop $ on them, instead of working to support an employed thug.

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  639. A passing thought:

    This whole thread of commentary, or at least a substantial portion of it, reminds me of a high school lunch room.

    Given the subject matter, perhaps, this should be of little surprise…

    Lastly, why’s everyone “hatin’ ” on doug. He’s an alright fellow.

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  640. I cracked up as soon as I read the names of both girls in the beginning of the story, one is an ex and one isn’t (yet).

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  641. Yelled at Josh’s baby mama in the parking lot of the movies.

    Perhaps in we lived in other climes, Sarah and Rachel would both volunteer for the harem?

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  642. Lol at the dad’s double negative. I could imagine him lecturing his children on the importance of grammar (like every parent), as in a “do as I say, not as I do” moment. Seriously, good grammar is important if a person wants to be taken seriously.

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  643. Don’t be jealous. You would have love to be camacho.
    Two sexbombs for you! My God!

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  644. Wait which gil is sarah and which girl is rachel, i think the blonde one is cute and the other one has very unfortunate looking bone structure

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  645. Sarah texted Josh.1:06 p.m.: “Whatever Josh, you get so mad at me for everything but you don’t give a shit when she puts something up or says something. You always believe her.”

    1:08 p.m. “It’s like no matter what I do she’s always that much better.”

    1:13 p.m. “All we fight about is her or something that has to do with her, and it sucks. I hate fighting with you . . . I love you so much, but this shit hurts.”

    Hours passed. Sarah tried again.

    6:36 p.m. “You say you love me, but you don’t even have the decency to text me back?”

    Finally, at 8:02 p.m., Josh typed, “Bring the movies.”

    I burst out laughing when I read this. This kid is ridiculous. Only proves how stupid people are, men and women.