Tallinn, Estonia.
A random sampling of Tallinn chicks at a party:
Here is an Englishman singing the praises of Tallinn women:
And here is a stirring video of Estonians singing what I guess is a national anthem of sorts (link courtesy of reader Philip):
Note how many natural hotties are in the crowd. Not a single fat chick in attendance. A similar audience in America would look like People of Walmart. And they would be picking their noses and belching Budweiser fumes instead of singing.
The song is pretty good, too. Makes me want to grab a banner and claymore and storm the nearest SWPL book club meeting.
30 years ago most women in western Europe and America would have looked as good as eastern European women do now. I doubt we’ll ever get back to times like that.
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As a Brotha who couldn’t care less about the “wonders” of Eastern European Women, and finds it fascinating to see Roissy and others like him go Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs over em, I have a question:
Instead of storming a SWPL w/a Braveheart sword, why not simply move to Estonia? After all, you said it yourself: it’s one of the best places for a PUA to be. And Style walked the walk when he went to places like the Baltics and Iceland.
Holla back
O.
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I’m really into blondes lately, besides Estonia, Finland and Ruissa, where do guys recommend to find the hottest blondes?
Don’t say Cali or Miami.
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In the first video, only the first chick was cute….
What language do they natively speak in Estonia? Do lot of these chicks know English?
The chick singing in the last video has a tongue ring….. .NICE
I know nothing about Eastern Europe.
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whenever i am feeling too anti-jewey, a smattering of obsidian will redistribute the wealth of my ire unto the brothas
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Why do you say that, Canon? I was only asking a question. No need to get so sensitive.
O.
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omg the girl at 1:19 in the national anthem song is hawt hawt hawt!!! *fapfapfap* -_-
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I am from Eastern Eaurope and I can tell I found most girls in those videos below my standart.
Some clueless men from eastern eaurope also my country want to move to west because western countries are richer. Poor guys they do not realise that they live in mens paradise already, here it is as good as it can be in modern times if you know game and know that your wallet is not all that important to get women.
However the evil lies of american feminism spread trough the whole world and even here it is not perfect, but it is probapbly much better than in the country muslims appropriately call “Big Satan”
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@Ubermind
So in your expert opinion where are the hottest blondes in Europe? Hope you name at least three countries. Maybe you can do a east vs. west top 3 countries with the hottest blonde special.
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Girl at :51 in the anthem video alone would be worth the trip.
All the girls in the first were hot, too…
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Most American guys have never been to a country where the women are thin, feminine, and traditional. This causes their reality to be skewed. If all you deal with day in and day out are overweight bitches with entitlement complexes, it’s easy to fall into the trap of thinking that this is how women are. No….this is how WESTERN women are.
The big thing that immediately stands out about eastern women is the fact that they take pride in their appearance. When they step out of the house they are well dressed and wearing makeup. American chicks lose two points because the don’t put in the effort. Baggy sweat shirt and flip flops, sloppy makeup, unkempt hair. WTF? The last chick I dated could have walked out the door and pegged a solid 8 on a daily basis if she tried. Unfortunately her chipped nail polish and hippie dresses dropped her a notch most days.
The first time you stroll down the sidewalk in an eastern European city and see how most of the pretty, petite waitresses and store clerks stop dead in their tracks to check you out as you walk by it is a surreal experience. Never been a rock star, but that’s what I would equate it to- having minor rock star status.
I am resigned to the fact that I will never again be in a serious relationship with an American woman. They are spoiled, deluded, fat narcissists who bring no value to my life aside from getting my dick wet.
I’m almost 39 now. I look younger and I’m in decent shape. I have a business that should allow me a lot of freedom within the next few years. The plan is to set myself up so that I can live anywhere in the world. Costa Rica? Brazil? eastern Europe? asia? Plenty of choices for a guy with a solid income and a taste for the exotic.
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Interesting fact: Heinrich Himmler SS-Reichsführer maintained that Estonians are the only people in the East that will be permitted to freely intermix with the Germans after the expected final victory (Endsieg). The third video gives you the clue why. For this reason Estonia was the first Eastern European country where the SS eradicated all the local Jews.
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obsidian, it is because you have asked this same question 1000 times, been given 1000 answers, and continue to chomp away at the bit. if you were truly searching for some insight to the psyche of whites, you would have made a spec of progress by now. but you’re not – your act is just a passive-aggressive way of telling whites to shut their mouths.
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If America really IS the engine behind the browning of the planet and evangelization of feminism, then it really is the Great Satan and needs to be put down.
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A pessimistic angle on EE women: they could a one-generation wonder.
They grew up in very patriarchal societies, with old-school Roman Catholicism, depending on the country. I visit family in EE all the time, and I see how girls are raised: strictly, playfully negged and corrected by older male relatives. There is no cooncept of “princess” and TV sitcims do not yet show hideous shrews getting in their cowering boyfriends’ faces — but TV programming is changing.
So for now an average girl grows up modest, and very invested in her moral virtue and physical attractiveness.
But Americanization, in one generation, can change them all to People of Walmart on one end, and she-lawyers on the other. Let’s hope no, and that Western women return to what they once were too.
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@ The_King
Sorry I will not reveal specific countries because I am pretty happy without too many of sex touritsts who could be my competition. Foreigners here have the status of exotic rich westerner, but due to language problems and too different cultural perspective it equals out and they mostly attract golddigers anyway
I have never traveled outside of Europe anyways, but from Europeant ravels I say women are best in Russia, Eastern Europe. Italy and northern Franceis acceptable. Germany is pretty bad and England is stright ugly.
After reading Spearhead and Roissy’s blog as well as from stories of my countrymen who have visited usa, I have concluded that I don’t want to travel to usa at all and probably wont in my lifetime, excluding some buisness reasons perhaps.
You people in America are losing soul. You are soulless most of you. Not only women, men too.
In school I had this classmate girl, she was nice, polite, shy, timid and feminine before she went to study in usa for one year. She returned as a total manipulative PC grrl power bitch.
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the singers appear to be part of a huge chorus. the actual audience on the ground doesn’t appear to be singing. wonder what the fuck that is.
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LOL!
This blog attracts jaded old farts like a moth to a flame.
There are still a lot of hot chicks in America…the problem is they tend to be college girls.
Hit up the bars in Tempe, AZ (home to ASU)…or the bars in Santa Barbara/Isla Vista (home to UCSB)…or the bars in Austin, TX (home to UT Austin)…or the bars in any college town, and you will find plenty of hot, young chicks.
Now, it may be tough for you older guys to get these chicks because in America young girls tend to think of older guys in bars as “creepy”, but that doesn’t take away from the fact that there are still a lot of hot chicks in the USA…it is just you old farts choose to dream about a fantasy land where 50-year-old men are chased after by 20-year-old women.
LOL!
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obsidian
why dont the majority–white people just remove all of the non-white people they let in here or foolishly schlepped instead? why should the MAJORITY and founding stock of the us have to move because they don’t like YOU
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Obsidian is driven by a very strong psychological need to be liked and respected by white men. Nothing wrong in and of itself with this, but if he doesn’t get the white-boy praise, he turns to passive-aggressive poking. Anything, so long as we pay attention to him.
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Part of the reason the people stay reasonably fit in eastern European cities, is that people still do a lot of walking there. They don’t get in their cars to go to the store two blocks away.
Affirmative action for women seems not to have taken hold there yet. Women in Estonia appear to mostly be in low-paying jobs. This indicates that Estonian women are less career-oriented and more interested in getting a husband to support them while they remain housewives and maybe have a part-time job. Thus, young women have an incentive to pay attention to their main asset, their looks.
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Is game even really “game” in the east?
I’ve never lived abroad but within a couple of weeks in Republic of Georgia I had two best friends fighting over me. Americans aren’t exactly rare over there but as a Yank the automatic status you get is HUGE. Minimal game needed.
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@Ubermind
I see. Email me then VonNietzsche@gmail.com.
I am not a sex tourist.
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@Ubermind
I am very sorry to hear and deeply emphasize with your situation. She learned from the best I suppose & it was probably natural, so it was right that you didn’t let her hook u in.
USA is good for money and power. Hence many do business then marry or retire in a foreign country.
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I went to Riga, Latvia in the summer of 2001. I ran into some guys traveling in the region and what they said the Latvian girls did to the UK and US chicks, the Estonian women did to the Latvian girls. For comparison, the girls working behind the counter at the McDonald’s we went to could have easily walked off the pages of Playboy! Yes they’re that hot.
I’ve been saying it for years, the most attractive women on the planet are those in the area where Russia, Eastern Europe, and Scandinavia all comes together. That puts Estonia squarely at the epicenter.
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Even for a woman foreign countries do have an appeal. My parents just traveled to Switzerland and my mom was telling me how nice the lifestyle is over there. There is national culture and everyone seems to follow it.
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I’m guessing this means Roissy is of Eastern European heritage, as people tend to be most attracted to others who share their genes. Men whose ancestors hail from Western Europe tend to think Russian women look a bit odd. Not that there aren’t some very hot women from that part of the world, but…
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“Roissy’s job in DC and his lack of mastery of Estonian language may have something to do with it.”
6 months of sub-40F temperatures are a downer.
Might be a nice place to visit in the summers, though.
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The Estonian anthem is Mu isamaa, mu õnn ja rõõm, “My Fatherland, My Happiness and Joy.” FATHERland.
My fatherland, my joy and happiness,
How beautiful you are!
I shall not find such ever
In this huge wide world
Which would be so dear to me
As you, my fatherland!
You have given me birth
And raised me up;
I shall thank you always
And remain faithful to you ’til death,
To me most beloved are you,
My precious fatherland!
May God watch over you,
My precious fatherland!
Let Him be your defender
And provide bountiful blessings
For whatever you undertake,
My precious fatherland!
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The average hotness factor in Estonia: +3 all around.
Puts Germany to shame.
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Simple. black males aren’t intersting in Estonian women because over there, they don’t have the American Guilt Welfare Initiative System or WIC like our sistas rely on.
For the same reason that – even over a century-and-a-half of bitching – blacks never move back to Mother Homeland Africa.
Happy Saturday,
wish me luck in nailing the hot black (hbb) MD (doctor of medicine)
moff
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that guy in the white suit singing is exactly what Steven Seagal will look like in ten years.
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Alright, CR, we all want to move there.
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Yeah Dana, maybe we’ll send the Jews back too.
If all it takes to satisfy some of you guys is blonde + not fat then you need to try harder. None of the girls in the first video are beautiful and the crowds in the second look like the assortment you’d find at any college campus here. Meh.
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This is an amazing mockumentary about some guys going to Tallinn to get mail order brides. It’s a Swedish comedy classic.
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translation:
sweden is great, everyone there is white
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uch switzerland
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Black men have it pretty good in America.
The rise of obesity in all American women makes these women less attractive to white men, but MORE attractve to black men.
So while white men have a smaller pool of women they can fuck, black men now have a larger pool of women who match their preference.
So what are they complaining about? Mu’Min is gettin’ his FAT WuMin….
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In a way I think that may be the reason, although my dad said he did see some middle eastern people. My mom told me the main concern at the time was that the local river had too much foam on it. Stores keepers would go home for lunch an leave the store unlocked and unattended. It would be nice to live in a country where we didn’t have to spend huge amounts of money on supporting unproductive citizens.
Also, they didn’t seem to cater to everyone’s individual issues or needs. She heard people say numerous times, “That’s just how we do things.”
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They got friendly with an Australian couple who had recently visited Washington, D.C. and Arlington Cemetery. The wife said to them, “You Americans take good care of your dead, but you don’t take good care of your living.” We have a reputation for treating poor people badly.
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Lavazza, de bästa svenska humoristerna är med här 🙂 sjukt Kul video iaf.
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shame all the white women are slowly being eradicated under state-imposed pluralism
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irving fisher would have chuckled
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For the same reason that – even over a century-and-a-half of bitching – blacks never move back to Mother Homeland Africa.
That says it all. An actual country – Liberia – was created for them for exactly this purpose. The condition of Liberia tells us what US blacks can produce on their own.
When I see black people actually leave the US and go to ANY other country (Canada, Sweden, Jamaica, or South Africa), then I will take them seriously.
We know the real reason they don’t leave :
Black men want to fuck fatties, and there is no better place for that than America. America is a sexual paradise for black men.
Black women want to get paid a hefty salary for producing nothing of value, and there is no better place for that than America.
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@Laura
Sure, that’s why it seems like all the poor of the world want to immigrate here. America is one of the few places in the world where “poor” people are fat.
The reality is that the welfare state is going to collapse real soon. When that happens, things will get really ugly. If you don’t have a man of your own to protect you, or are very good with guns and have a willingness to kill, then you will either die or become the slave of some thug.
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You know Roissy it’s strange that you can go off about SWPL chicks that root for other countries in a game like soccer, rail against lefties that admire the politics of Europe, but when it comes to women, culture, and the social order of obscure places you’re anti-American sentiment goes unscathed. No hate honestly, just curious as to how one can pull off such inconsistency?
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I went to the zoo recently and it appeared to me that most of the handicap parking spaces were being used by very overweight women rather than people with an actual disability. That’s annoying.
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Cannon’s Canon
If you really want that jacked up go read him, especially in this comment threads, at his own blog.
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Laura,
I went to the zoo recently and it appeared to me that most of the handicap parking spaces were being used by very overweight women rather than people with an actual disability.
You could have avoided buying a ticket for the zoo, and merely have observed these great beasts in the parking lot.
Black men attempting to pick up these obese women with direct Game would have been a sight analogous to Masai warriors hunting an elephant, rhinoceros, or Cape buffalo. Those women resemble elephants in size, shape, plus color and texture (if black).
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Go foreign. It can be any number of different countries, but go foreign. Don’t wait until you are old either, do it now.
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Population pyramid of Estonia :
If you want to get the hotties there, you better go soon. In just a few short years, they will be a lot fewer in number. In 10 years, there will only be half as many in the 20-24 age range as today.
Their birth rate has plunged.
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First off Canon, you’re wrong; second, if you’re right, it must indicate that those of you who talk a mean game about Eastern European White gals haven’t, for whatever reason, gotten off your behinds to do something about the situation. I just don’t see any point to saying, “Estonia is the best place to be for (White) PUAs, because the USA is full of thus and so”, and then sit here and nod in agreement and/or complain further. If Estonia is truly the bomb, what’s stopping you guys? Don’t you have a plane to catch?
O.
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Obsidian–
Instead of storming a SWPL w/a Braveheart sword, why not simply move to Estonia? After all, you said it yourself: it’s one of the best places for a PUA to be. And Style walked the walk when he went to places like the Baltics and Iceland.
As a shortie brotha constantly bitching and moaning about how America does don’t enough for black folk and especially black men like yourself who couldn’t concentrate in school enough or be motivated enough to go to college despite all the affirmative action and scholarships available to those who did, why don’t you move to some country in sub Saharan Africa?
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Hi Dana,
You said:
“obsidian
why dont the majority–white people just remove all of the non-white people they let in here or foolishly schlepped instead? why should the MAJORITY and founding stock of the us have to move because they don’t like YOU”
O: Because they know better than to start something they can’t finish-which explains why old frats like YOU get the f*ck outta Dodge with the quickness.
Any other questions you wanna ask, Ms. Wannabe Knowin’ Hip Hop?
LOL
O.
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Hi Firepower,
Replies as follows:
F: Simple. black males aren’t intersting in Estonian women because over there, they don’t have the American Guilt Welfare Initiative System or WIC like our sistas rely on.
O: So, welfare plays a role in whether Black Men are interested in Women or not? And even if it does, what does that have to do with my question? I missed that part.
O: I have a question:
Instead of storming a SWPL w/a Braveheart sword, why not simply move to Estonia?
F: For the same reason that – even over a century-and-a-half of bitching – blacks never move back to Mother Homeland Africa.
O: That’s because no one romanticizes Africa the way you guys romanticize Estonia. If we did, I’d ask the same questions of them. See how that works?
F: Happy Saturday,
wish me luck in nailing the hot black (hbb) MD (doctor of medicine)
moff
O: Getting laid doesn’t require luck, silly wabbit
O.
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Laura
Switzerland wisely allows in little mass immigration and almost no refugee immigration. You have to be rich or possibly distinguished to move to Switzerland, basically.
We should only allow in smart people, their wife, and children. And that’s it. And almost no people who our elites feel should get affirmation action.
When you think about it, isn’t it idiotic to allow the mass immigration of people the country then turns around and gives affirmative action to?
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in the world of game/hbd blogs, obsidian founded his own Liberia
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Hi Doug,
You said:
“As a shortie brotha constantly bitching and moaning about how America does don’t enough for black folk and especially black men like yourself who couldn’t concentrate in school enough or be motivated enough to go to college despite all the affirmative action and scholarships available to those who did, why don’t you move to some country in sub Saharan Africa?”
O: LOL, nice try dodging he question! But no cigar.
Let’s try this again: if Eastern Euro gals are truly the bomb, why don’t more guys like you simply go there, after all, that’s where the action is?
Now Doug, try and follow the bouncing ball, hmm?
O.
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Obsidian–
Big talk 5’8″ shortie. And utter bullshiite.
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Obsidian–
Your bouncing ball? No thanks.
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No Doug. Read for comprehension.
Sigh…
O.
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Oh, and Doug,
Surely you know that you don’t have be big to pull the trigger. If your not too careful one of those shorties from out on Crenshaw could tighten you up w/an AK, you heard?
O.
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Obsidian–
Oh I see you finally picked that up from me using it against you, aptly, at your blog when you actually do totally misread comments of mine. (I of course got it from Roissy.)
Only you (mis)use it without comprehending it because you think it sounds good. Typical Obsidian. “Sigh.”
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Switzerland is now allowing EU passport holders easier residency, which sounds like it could ruin the country, but then I looked at the small print. You must have a income of at least 40,000 Euros (or around that figure) per year. Keeps the low-lifes out.
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Black guys just have lower standards. They’d ditch the “sisters” in a heartbeat for some nice white booty given the option and presuming they have fortitude. See: celebs, athletes.
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Damn. I’m buying a ticket there right away. Those girls are worthy of my harem. I can imagine hot sex with three, four, five at a time, if not more, you know, depending on my mood.
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I have said many times, estonia is europe’s best kept secret!
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Are there any real differences between the three Baltic states, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania?
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Shorter Obsidian: do as we say, honkeys, or will kick your asses!
That’s the entirety of his case for the dignity and worth of the black community in the US.
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“If America really IS the engine behind the browning of the planet and evangelization of feminism, then it really is the Great Satan and needs to be put down.”
This country needs a cleansing. A total war to weed out the weak and the unhealthy. We need to destroy ourselves in order to rebuild.
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“Let’s try this again: if Eastern Euro gals are truly the bomb, why don’t more guys like you simply go there, after all, that’s where the action is?”
Any actual answer to that question? Hell I’d like to know that too.
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“Are there any real differences between the three Baltic states, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania?”
Lithuanians are better at basketball.
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It really bothers me as a yuppie that the discussion always becomes a black or white issue.
Can’t we all get along? World Peace?
Anyways,
Which European country has the best looking blondes?
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“Can’t we all get along? World Peace? ”
Peace is when one side defeats the other, the real issue is “who wins?”
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Canon’s Cannon–
Well said.
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sure – some woman’s gotta pay for a brothas 3 hots and a cot once he serves his sentence.
sorry you can’t keep up. I’ll type slower.
then just think of it as ‘black pussy Affirmative Action’ for oppressed white men
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New York
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The King: Well, Estonia and Finland has the highest percentage of blondes compared to any country, maybe excluding Iceland. I can’t say which has the best looking blondes, since I have never been able to compare a random, not self selected group, of women of the same age. Both countries has a high percentage of healthy looking and thin women, so much I can say.
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Latvia is the best country. It has the blonde parade.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/latvias-blonde-parade
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Estonian girls hate Russian girls, the latter are viewed as loud mouth whores on busses and in other public places.
Estonian girls speak fluent English, BTW.
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Laura –
Laura,
I went to the zoo recently and it appeared to me that most of the handicap parking spaces were being used by very overweight women
MSFW –
You could have avoided buying a ticket for the zoo, and merely have observed these great beasts in the parking lot.
Black men attempting to pick up these obese women with direct Game would have been a sight analogous to Masai warriors hunting
Comedy gold!! LOL
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Doug1,
Big talk 5’8″ shortie.
I somehow doubt doug1 is any taller than 5’9″…..
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Obsidian,
This name you use must mean you’re hard, razor sharp, shiny, and above all, black. Amiright?
Hey, sad news man. It doesn’t look like it’s going to work out for the Jena Six:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mychal_Bell#Members.27_subsequent_activities
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Miss Finland contestants:
http://www.missosology.info/forum/viewtopic.php?t=29148
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What’s WSPL? I’m a noob. Know it’s got something to do white, educated, snobby girls but would like to know what the acronym is.
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Hi Firepower,
Affirmative action for oppressed White guys? Boy, you guys really got it bad, huh?
O.
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Hi JB,
Yup. Works for me. So long as Whitey behaves himself, there will be no need to get all undignified and let fly with the banana clip, you heard?
O.
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There, I clicked on your link. Now your traffick’s back up. You can stop trolling on white guy blogs now.
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Canon,
Liberia? LOL. Nah, I’m a true blue, 100% American. The Obsidian Files is made right here in the home of the brave, bruh.
Feel free to drop by and say hi to the good folks some time!
By the way: you down w/Busta Rhymes & J Dilla’s “Dillagence”? If not, you need to cop, asap.
PRCalDude:
Actually, I got the name “Obsidian” from a White guy, named J5, who used to post here quite a bit. The elemental substance, which is actually volcanic glass, is indeed hard, and (often) black in color, but one of the reasons he gave me that name was because of its smooth qualities.
Which definitely fits the Man, to a “T”.
O.
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Smooth as glass, huh? I’ve never encountered an overinflated black male ego before. This must be novel…
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Glad this video is making the rounds, it’s truly inspiring. I became aware of it some months ago, and to be frank it made a deep and, dare I say it, spiritual impression upon me.
I’ve seen the lyrics, it is a very nationalistic song. Powerful stuff (“keep the Fatherland clean,” nothing to argue with there).
Of course, you don’t really need the lyrics, as the true power is in the aesthetics, an expression of a particular European people, unsullied and unmarred. An expression of something, sublime and wonderful, that we have lost entirely in the ugly “progressive” (read: regressive) world.
In regressive America, you couldn’t have something like that. The crowd would invariably be mixed, they’d get some black to sing the national anthem in that caterwauling style (and everybody would have to clap, no matter how badly butchered, because after all, how can you not when it’s the national anthem?). Either that, or get some white who would try to sing in the black style. And then we’d switch to Aretha Franklin, and then some corporate produced utter shite, surrounded by flashing advertising logos. Blink, blink, blinkety blink.
They would also figure out some excuse to have non-whites leaping all over the field, putting on some show or another, and we’d have to clap for that too. Anyway, you’ve seen the same movie, you get the idea.
Point is that the aesthetics are ALWAYS screwed up and annoying, utterly unsatisfying. Nothing beautiful and inspiring, nothing that nourishes the soul, just more regressive crapola.
Then, to see something like this. To see a real expression of beauty and culture, a particular people that has created a particular thing, is quite literally stunning to my jaded western eyes. I’m so used to a mishmash of corporatized crap and jungle beats that a video such as this staggers like lightning and thunder.
For those that don’t understand what we discontented whites ache for, our sense of loss in the lands our forefathers created, our growing fury at what has been stolen from us, this video is a damn good place to start. It should be Exhibit A for what we have lost in all of our lands… and what can be again.
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Scandenavia is quite good too.
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Argus–
Regulars on this board have known for a long time that I’m 6’3. Not 6’5, 6’3. I was 6’1 at 14.
@Leif–
SWPL. Pronounced swiiple. Stuff White People Like. Meaning the “right kind” of white people. Based on a satirical blog of that name that went web viral among, you know, the right kind of people.
Meaning uber trend and status conscious upper middle and upper class white people who compete to out multicult and care more about poor people in Africa and about global warming – wait make that “climate change” with each other. Brown would be a leading SWPL college. Big Obama supporters. The types to be sure to get red iPods at an Apple store even if that does cost more than from Amazon ’cause you know Bono’s got this “red campaign” deal with Apple and some other trendy brands to have a certain amount of the profit on red models go to the poor of Africa.
That sort of thing.
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Ever notice how white Tony Dungy and Barack Obama are? They could easily join the mulatto elite running the NAACP. Eric Holder probably belongs there too.
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Ryder,
So, we come back round robin to my original question:
If the Estonian/Russian/East European gals are the bomb as much as Roissy & Co., say, then why don’t they/you MOVE?
I mean, if it were me extolling the virtues of say, Brazillian babes (not the White ones, I like my Women to have actual booties), I wouldn’t be online on day complaining about how bad American Women are; I’d be about the business of getting down there to Brasilia-getting my passport together, etc et al, making contacts w/peeps as to where to stay, etc. And in you guys’ case, you don’t have to reinvent the wheel, like I said Style’s already done it, he went to the Eastern bloc with Mystery, it’s right there in the book The Game.
So, what’s taking y’all so long? C’mon fellas, let’s get right to it!
Don’t y’all have a flight to catch?
O.
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SWPL = Ikea?
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Interesting choice of posts today as I have a date with a Latvian girl tonight. They are as good as you think they are…
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Sublime comment by Ryder
mishmash of corporatized crap and jungle beats
That about describes it.
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@intp
No SWPL = Liberal/feminist
@Firepower
Nice try, but I already mentioned besides US like Cali or Miami. If you think NYC is part of Europe, you would make a great case for the failure of public education.
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I went on a Baltic cruise and I saw the fittest girl I saw in the whole fortnight in a Tallinn church. So anecdotally confirmed.
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PRCalDude,
Either you don’t know what the word mulatto means, or you’re attempting to use in a disparaging way. There is no such thing as a “mulatto” in American life; there is in other societies, like Haiti, SAFR or Brazil, where “mulatto” denotes a seperate social/racial class/caste from White or Black.
Here in America though, the One Drop Rule reigns supreme, and both Dungy and Obama self-identify as Black, as do Alicia Keys, Mariah Carey, Halle Berry, etc.
Just wanted to drop that on ya.
Oh, yea-again, I was given the name “Obsidian” so evidently I was seen as a rather smooth fellow. Just happens to be a good fit.
And, last time I checked, I didn’t need you to give me any hits on my blog, nor is there any “White Men Only” signage here.
So I suppose you’ll just have to get used to seeing me around for a spell…
O.
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In an unarmed fight, I’d still back a younger 5’8″ black brotha from Philly over a middle-aged lawyery white guy, even if he is allegedly 6’3″….
Most people would…..
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Obsidian–
It used to around here, but the mask has fully fallen off at your own blog, particularly when you bully or try to bully college graduate middle class black girls (buppies) in your comments, largely for tending to want to date college graduate black guys rather than the likes of you, and try to with any less than ass licking white guys who show up, generally not for long. Chic Noir’s rather been kicking your butt lately.
All with few to no facts just your bs observations and a few anecdotes, though really not many, just your insisted upon “observations”, and a botha man amen chorus.
You’ve chased away with your lack of smoothness and bantam rooster efforts at bullying and character assassination, a whole lot of the people from here and elsewhere in the Roissysphere who at first hung some at your place, wanting to see your point of view and actually discuss issues.
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@Doug1
Thanks a lot, man.
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Argus–
Amen chorus.
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I just find it fascinating how, when a simple, straightfoward question is asked, backed by an actual instance where one of the best PUAs ever actually did it, we get all kinds of diversionary “answers”. Stuff about Africa (I’m American), personal attacks, stuff about Black Women, etc, et al-*anything* but actually answering the question.
Like I said, fascinating.
Game is all about ACTION. Taking action. Being a Man of action. NOT sitting around bitching and complaining like, well, you know-bitches.
If you don’t like American Women, all well and good. You now know, for certain per the superlative research provided by the crack team here at Chateau Roissy.
So…
Why don’t you, and for that matter, Roissy himself, get off your asses and GO to Estonia? I mean, what’s the hold up?
Comments? Anyone gonna actually answer my question this time? 😉
O.
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@The_King
Isn’t Ikea a liberal/feminist/gay/metrosexual/yuppie/female shopping Mecca?
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Sounds pretty much just like here.
Word is that one mulatto female singer (her name escapes me right now) liked to date white guys until some black publication got all butt-hurt about it and told her she wasn’t acting black enough or something.
So much for self-identification.
Whoa, Tony Dungy’s wife is pretty white – you could say “mulatto” – also.
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@intp
No it’s actually a Swedish furniture maker. Very popular in Europe, since it’s like Walmart for newly wed couples.
Again anyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Where are the hottest blondes in Europe?
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There are three Ikeas in Saudi Arabia.
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PRCalDude,
Nope. Please read for comprehension.
Let’s try this again.
In the United States of America, there IS no such thing as a “mulatto”. Look it up for once, please let just one White guy know what he is actually talking about when it comes to race in America. “Mulatto” refers to a social/racial caste/class, which America doesn’t have. Other societies have it.
So, ALL the lighter skinned Blacks that you want to discuss, such as Dungy (and his wife), Obama, etc, et al, would NOT be considered “mulatto” in America, becaue we’ve never had such a classification in the first place.
Now, I notice that you, and other Whites of your slithery ilk, like to use such terms in a derogatory fashion. Why, I don’t know. But I know you do it. Which, given the history of this country, makes you sound highly uneducated.
I’m just sayin.
O.
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PRCalDude,
If you’re referring to my blog, I like it fine just the way it is, nor did I ask you for your sage advice. If and when I want it, I’ll know just who to go to.
Now, how about my question that I asked earlier, hmm? If Eastern European gals are the bomb and American gals so bad, why isn’t Roissy leading a team of White guys like yourself over to the Promised Land?
Hmm?
O.
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I’m not using it in derogatory fashion – I’m using it in descriptive fashion. It denotes reality.
There is surely a separate mulatto class in the US – just look at Eric Holder, Colin Powell, Barack Obama, Tony Dungy, and everyone running the NAACP like Julian Bond.
Personally, I think it sucks that they boss you guys around or claim to be black or whatever.
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the preferred term is “light bright”
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You know, Tha Obsidian, it struck me that you might be sperging on about this ‘THERE ARE NO MULATTOS IN AMERICA’ crap because you are one yourself.
Obsidian, are you high yella?
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Of course Obsidian would win against Doug1 in a fight. No offense Doug, but you OLD! And white.
Hey Doug, quick question: why do you care so much about “child support = stealth alimony”? Don’t you not have (and don’t you never plan on having) children?
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PRCalDude,
Yes, you are. I’ve already laidout the reasons why. If I’m wrong, prove it.
Am I “high yellow”? LOL. Sorry to disabuse you, but no, I’m not.
The NAACP doesn’t “boss around” Black Americans at large. Those in leadership positions hold them by way of elections. Again, look it up.
Thomas Sowell and Clarence Thomas are quite dark, by the way. As is Denzel Washington. Last time I heard, that didn’t stop their ascension in American life.
Oh, and Dana-the preferred terms are in fact, “high yella” and “red bone” (when applied to a female).
And you don’t know Hip Hop anywhere near as well as you think. Trust me.
O.
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great sense of humor obsidian
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Hey Dougie, do you know what “shortie” (btw it’s SHAWTY) means? It does not mean “black person.” JUST FYI.
Shiite? As in…SHIITE MUSLIM???? OHHH Bhetti you should be all up in that bitch!!!
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Anonymous:
Relax, relax, dougie is the sort of guy who gets a kick out of e-threatening random people on wordpress. He even e-threatened sdaedalus, of all people, and expected that comment not to become a laughingstock.
Haha
I’d love to meet this guy in real life
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PRCalDude,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulatto
Please note what it says for the USA.
O.
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Okay, that just made me laugh.
Anyway, really, is Obsidian actually young? I thought he was older.
How old are you, O?
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Shawty
No reflection on the substantive merits of your point, I think the lady in question might prefer if her name were kept out of the discussion, especially since she’s no longer officially commenting on this blog. Like a lot of extremely feminine women, she has a tendency to be hypersensitive and I wouldn’t like her to be in the thick of things if they get nasty.
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“SHAWTY”: Interesting. There is no threat there that I can actually see?
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Bag Lady, is that you?
O.
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@Anplayer
Although touched by your cousinly concern, I am well able to look after myself, thank you. Your nurse, on the other hand, appears to be emptying the bedpan of your relationship woes into her new blog. I’d advise you to get over there and take her off night duty pronto.
@ Shawty
Which comment do you mean? The one in which he called me a mid-40s sagging specimen for venturing to suggest that Ingrid Bergman at 50 looked better than Helen Thomas at 50?
It’s on this thread here
http://sdaedalus.wordpress.com/2010/08/09/spot-the-star/
Or are you talking about the one on Rivelino’s blog where he said my writing style could do with some improvement?
I didn’t take either of them particularly seriously.
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“In an unarmed fight, I’d still back a younger 5’8″ black brotha from Philly over a middle-aged lawyery white guy, even if he is allegedly 6’3″….
Most people would…..”
Le duh. Always back the guy with the gun.
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lol@le duh
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God damn it, it sickens me how a bunch of pasty, aging, paleocon fucks treat half a continent like it’s myspace. I’ve seen these guys in action, no game whatsoever, just flashing wallets and being druken horny beta assholes.
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Was that directed at me? I can’t make sense out of what you’re saying. If that’s hostility, why?
I honestly don’t know how old you are. How old are you?
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OMG, that comment from Doug1 on SDaedalus was pathetic…
He actually thought marrying Bhetti was an option for him, that he is ‘honorably turning down’.
Bhetti – forget your age, how old are your parents again? I would wager they are younger than Doug1…..
He is not old enough to be her father – he is older than her father.
An e-romance for entertainment is one thing, but when one side takes it a bit too seriously, that is sad.
Let’s also add this comment from Avinguda Diagonal, where he calls out and pwns Doug1 for being a secret feminist.
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Bhetti– from the sdaedalus blog:
He won’t respond ANYWHERE THIS NICELY!!!! AHHHHH EEEEEE THREAT!!!!!!
DOUGIE WILL BRING SHIT DOWN WITH HIS MIGHTY INTERNET WORDS OF SHAME!!!!!!!!!
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This is by far some of the funniest weekend readings. You guys are hella funny with your racism and putting each other down etc. What do you do in real life seriously?! All comedy aside I will learn from my elders and not become this. Off to Starbucks!
Peace.
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Anonymous
What a wierd frame. Exaggerating and distorting much? That’s a “threat”, is it? You made it sound like the villainous Doug was threatening to e-kill a helpless and angelic SD, when he was saying cordially to an adult woman who’d said what she’d said to him, ‘I will lose respect for you over this.’
Enough of that. Leave her out of it.
He has made comments that sound more like e-threats than those: you should go dig in the archives. It’ll be a constructive use of your time.
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Obsidian
Have you ever considered the possibility that many people think the lands their ancestors built are mismanaged and insteado of moving to another land, it is better to change the way their own lands are ruled?
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And what exactly did SD say that was so bad, Behtti. As far as I remember, all she did was make the not unreasonable assumption that if Doug were so attached to you, he might actually like to meet you in person sometim.
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“Instead of storming a SWPL w/a Braveheart sword, why not simply move to Estonia? After all, you said it yourself: it’s one of the best places for a PUA to be. ”
Hasn’t this been answered already?
Americans don’t known Estonian and the economy there is pretty crap.
The West has been screwed up by social communism while the East has been screwed up by economic communism, and neither side has been doing much breeding.
Neither the less, the idea of finding a reasonably attractive white woman who isn’t a borderline social communist is certainly an appealing prospect the man of independent means.
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Yes, it’s easy to have no fat chicks when FOOD IS SCARCE!
Give them 10 years in the USA, and they are fatties, too.
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both the men and women are very lovely. i reckon most of the UK, canada, and US could look similar if we weren’t all gigantic fatties. such a shame. when i went to a Norwegian town in western canada i especially noticed how pretty the girls were. but then i looked at their muffin tops.
ugh. how could you be born so pretty and then make yourself ugly. i just don’t get it.
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“God damn it, it sickens me how a bunch of pasty, aging, paleocon fucks treat half a continent like it’s myspace. I’ve seen these guys in action, no game whatsoever, just flashing wallets and being druken horny beta assholes.”
So true.
I have seen these old guys, like Doug1, in action in South America and their “game” pretty much boils down to this: Wallet Game + Begging For Pussy From Every Woman Under 30.
It is funny to watch, if not a little bit pathetic.
Eh, but I don’t care, to each his own.
I just find it funny when old guys on here try to call what they do “Game.”
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Umm…if you guys want to “clean house” in the USSA the quickest path is to identify and eliminate/expel the Neo-Com (New Communist) leadership running things. They are on TV every night and all belong to the CFR. You’re talking a few thousand Marxist intellectuals running things, tops. Decapitate Goliath and the body will die.
The fembots and all the other bot footsoldiers will fall into line once their leaders are gone.
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re: theobsidianfiles
Man, this is so typical. You can’t keep them away, they just seek you out, and then complain about your attitude.
Listen, theobsidian, a 14 year yo black girl shot two Honduran men in the head in Baltimore last week, trying to rob them. They laughed when she pulled out her gun. Yes, poor Honduran immigrants, who I suspect have seen a lot, couldn’t imagine a young girl using a gun in a robbery. One survived.
No mention of her having a father, just a mother and brother.
Don’t you have something more important to do? Like, being a big brother to your little sistas? You feelin’ me?
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anplayer: It’s been hashed out and discussed and cleared up and dissected and its old news.
Your protectiveness is rather nice, but I wasn’t casting aspersions on her character.
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Ya, and all Japanese know Kung Fu.
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So you just vote in the whitest black guys around, or do the whitest guys around just naturally rise to the top?
Sowell and Thomas represent about 3% of black voters (when blacks bother to vote). They represent white voting patterns far more than black voting patterns, speaking of voting, so they didn’t get to where they are with any black help. How many times have they been called Uncle Toms?
tl dr.
Mulatto is as American as the KKK.
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That’s okay Bhetti. On the assumption that she’s either otherwise occupied or on moderation, might I say that SD can indeed go a little too far at times. However, rest assured I have her under control, just like I’m sure Doug has you well under control. My attention may have lapsed o this occasionally in the past, but rest assured it won’t do so again. All complaints about her, propositions etc. can be addressed directly to me.
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2 out of the 4 girls were bangable. The first and 3rd one on camera. The other two looked like sisters. They both had fat faces and were not fuckable. Case closed.
American college girls are still the hottest girls on Earth. They are slutty as hell and are prone to making bad decisions. They are dumb as rocks and taking advantage of them is great fun.
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jesus christ
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@anplayer
Give it a rest, it is becoming tedious at this point.
@Everyone Else
Just ignore anplayer. He wouldn’t know what control was if it jumped up and bit him in the face.
Without being rude, our (very distant) familial connextion in real life gives him no authority to speak for me whatsoever.
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[blasphemy alert]
@SarkyDEmoiselle
Jesus Christ
You called, m’dear?
[apologies to other devout Christians for unseemly levity]
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”””””dream puppy
“In an unarmed fight, I’d still back a younger 5’8″ black brotha from Philly over a middle-aged lawyery white guy, even if he is allegedly 6’3″….
Most people would…..”
Le duh. Always back the guy with the gun.
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Well this 5 7 1/2 to 5 8 white man was talking nigger shit with 6 foot brothers from the hood in dc and nobody went to fighting and I wasn’t carrying a gun.
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o’s biggest fear is white men not giving a fuck anymore.
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But yea way to derail thread those chicks were nice in your flat cr.
he he he
I got to put estonia on the list.
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Dana translation:
sweden is great, everyone there is white
on August 28, 2010 at 4:05 pm dana
uch switzerland
When ste.ve sailor wrote that many americans get the two confused, I said no way. After all I’m a prole low iq NAM and even I know beter.
That’s all
good night .
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your also a self proclaimed feminist noir. I think that would be your attribute that makes you retarded.
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guns I think that would be your attribute that makes you retarded.
more wise words from the dean moriarty of the cheatau.
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They’re singing at the Estonian Song Festival
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estonian_Song_Festival
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lowcarbitch In an unarmed fight, I’d still back a younger 5’8″ black brotha from Philly over a middle-aged lawyery white guy, even if he is allegedly 6’3″….
Most people would…..”
Le duh. Always back the guy with the gun.
Don’t look a gift horse in the mouth.
Without them, where would you get most of your protein?
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“chick noir” means “black chick”?
I thought I read auschwitz there, but I re-read it and it was switzerland. score for you.
but “americans get the two confusing” is wrong — your low iq shines through — it is “too confusing” or “confusing the two”, which is something you do.
but the photo is really nice, the hat… I would game this girl hard. that you got right.
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”””””’Buddy informs me the hottest chick he knows is a Russian stripper at Royal Palace, DC.””””””
Yea man hottest chicks are gonna be found in strip clubs.
Ever see G manifesto’s blog. That dude knows hot woman.
You want to gauge hottness. Check out his site.
Whole point is the stripper chicks working their bodies all day long so yea that makes them hot right there.
Have money and some game and can own the hottest woman.
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””””””chic noir
more wise words from the dean moriarty of the cheatau.
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Well I guess I will take that as a complement. he he he
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“Have money and some game and can own the hottest woman.”
Well, rent, at least. It’s the cocaine that owns the woman.
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http://www.lovemall.com/estonia/gallery66.htm
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If I get my check though my life up till now is just the tip of the iceburg.
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””””Well, rent, at least. It’s the cocaine that owns the woman.””””
More the dick I could probably get them off the cocaine.
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Heck my current woman used to like to drink she doesn’t anymore.
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OT, but reminds me of a favorite theme here —
this is from a review of a new crime thriller — ‘Mesrine’ :
“The movie is a virtual ode to a bad boy’s fatal attraction for women who should know better but can’t resist the thrill of dangerous attachment to a man who devotes the same intensity to sex that he does to robbing banks, killing policemen and escaping from prison.”
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Prophet
but “americans get the two confusing” is wrong — your low iq shines through — it is “too confusing” or “confusing the two”, which is something you do.
Speaking of which….
“chick noir” means “black chick”?
It’s chic(french) darling not chick. I’m a metaphor
but the photo is really nice, the hat… I would game this girl hard
you don’t have the game
🙂
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@xsplat
“Ya, and all Japanese know Kung Fu.”
It is very obvious that you have visited Asia and know much about MMA.
Is Karate from China?
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more wise words from the dean moriarty of the cheatau.
well well well. I am impressed, Chic. Jack kerouac was a boyhood hero of mine. I read all those novels, On the Road, Desolation Angels, the Town and the City, the Dharma Bums, and so on.
well, that’s ok if guns is dean moriarty cos really I always saw myself as sal paradise.
He saw that all the struggles of life were incessant, laborious, painful, that nothing was done quickly, without labor, that it had to undergo a thousand fondlings, revisings, moldings, addings, removings, graftings, tearings, correctings, smoothings, rebuildings, reconsiderings, nailings, tackings, chippings, hammerings, hoistings, connectings — all the poor fumbling uncertain incompletions of human endeavor.
-Jack Kerouac 1922 – 1969
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you probably think only hot chicks and celebrities make it to lakers games too.
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””””””’When the book was originally released, The New York Times hailed it as “the most beautifully executed, the clearest and most important utterance” of Kerouac’s generation.[1] The novel was chosen by Time magazine as one of the 100 best English-language novels from 1923 to 2005.”””””
Why I do need to sit down with someone and have them help me write my life story.
I have done so many fucking things and lived so many lives it is nuts. Why I thought it was pretty much over. I am not sure how much shit I can actually fit into my brain before it explodes.
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Fire inside dies and expires at 30. lol
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“It’s chic(french) darling not chick. I’m a metaphor”
your sense of humor is weak, as I noted before. As is your low iq semantics: “this is french, therefore, I’m a metaphor”.
Who knows if it is because you are black two? What would Auschwitz do?
I wasn’t gaming you, I said I would game your fashionable alter-ego. You don’t have that hat.
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Lily Donaldsons Flying Hair is cool, though.
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@PRCalDude
“her name escapes me right now”
Feel free to post it when you recall.
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But then you find out that the best way to use all that experience is to pre raise some kids to be superhuman coming out the gate.
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Gig the Brazilian asks:
“Have you ever considered the possibility that many people think the lands their ancestors built are mismanaged and insteado of moving to another land, it is better to change the way their own lands are ruled?”
O: To be honest, no, because what you state above wasn’t my question, nor was this current post focused on what you ask above either. I am simply asking why, since Roissy and a goodly bit of other White guys here so highly extoll the virtues of Eastern European Women, don’t they go there? What is there to be gained, from participating in a circle jerk crying in one’s beer session, bemoaning the state of American Women? As if that’s gonna change anything.
Holla back
O.
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And yea I did get the chick to say I’m your nigger during sex.
Woman really have no line they won’t cross.
he he he
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all just in good fun though of course lol
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Look at this high yella nigga. He ain’t mulatto cracka!
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“And yea I did get the chick to say I’m your nigger during sex.”
Yup. I’m fond of telling a girl what to say when fucking. “Say, Daddy I’m your little slut! Say it!”
You’ve got exactly the correct attitude.
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According to wikipedia, Estonia has a sex ratio of .84 males for every female.
This keeps getting better and better.
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Dam the first chick that was singing had a beautifull face.
That was hot.
That was a powerfull vid.
Yea save your loot in america or elsewhere then escape alcatraz he he he
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obsidian files GTFO
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I’m sort of late to this party, but speaking as the man who sent the Estonian concert vid to Roissy, I’m glad so many of the regulars here have enjoyed it.
And I’m glad we continue to irritate Little O. He sho is passive aggressive for a brotha, ain’t he?
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Fellas — slow your damn roll!!!
Obsidian once said he knows ***AIKIDO***
I saw him flexin one day in Philly, it was scary:
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“The big thing that immediately stands out about eastern women is the fact that they take pride in their appearance. When they step out of the house they are well dressed and wearing makeup.”
No, it means they take NO pride in their appearance. That is a good thing, because it means they have shame, and they care what others (even men?) think about them.
If they took pride in their appearance, they would be fat.
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@ Gunny
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Tupac Maxim #1:
Good pussy smells and tastes like a box of waxy Crayons. Not fish or sharp cheddar.
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Just got back from Estonia a couple of weeks ago. The women are crazy hot, and they hobble along the roughest cobblestone in the old city in fuck me heels, god bless em. The Esto girls all speak perfect english; the russian girls generally have english that ranges from good to fluent, though fluency is a safe assumption. The split is about 60/40 Esto / Russian, but the Russian girls are generally hotter, tho the Esto women are a grade or two above the west, or Finland and Holland, the other countries I spent a lot of time in. The native language is Estonian and is incomprehensible to a lot of the UN / Business crowd I ran with – these are people fluent in at minimum five languages. They didn’t bother with it since English is so widely spoken, even deep in the countryside. Great country, if you are looking for women its sweet though I would like to travel east to St. Petersburg or south to Riga, Latvia, where I suspect it’s much the same. The Esto’s don’t care much for the russians and vice versa, since the Russians were shit to them in the war (they much preferred the nazis) and during the cold war they forced relocated Russians to Estonia by the thousands to expand their power on the ground. Of course the russians got all the land and power and tortured and killed all the dissidents, so you can really feel a simmering tension between the two, and land disputes are common to this day as russian granddaughter is relieved of property her granddad seized fifty years ago etc.
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BTW I’d live there permanently in a heartbeat if I were allowed to work there. It’s absolutely fantastic in the summer, you just need to line up some girls to keep you warm for the long and brutal winters. And get used to pickled herring for breakfast.
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””””””’Tupac Chopra
@ Gunny
””””””
That would be tight.
I think it is more that at that moment I will sell my soul to the devil.
he he he
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Sure, they are attractive. But there are way too many blondes for my taste. I find brunettes much more attractive. Give me a brown or black haired white woman over the bland carbon copy blondes any day of the week.
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””””Tupac Chopra
Tupac Maxim #1:
Good pussy smells and tastes like a box of waxy Crayons. Not fish or sharp cheddar.
””””””
Good pussy actually tastes good. Quit eaten crayons.
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My woman drank some shit that is supposed to make the pussy taste good. Yea right made it taste like crap.
I was like don’t ever drink that shit again.
What woman eat does affect the pussy as well.
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As a tribute to noir I never did eat out the black chick.
he he he
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That is only for woman I marry.
Or it could be converse I only marry woman I can eat out.
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me and Tupac Cena were having a little chat about business, and Obsidian overheard. here is the footage:
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CCCPman:
According to wikipedia, Estonia has a sex ratio of .84 males for every female.
This keeps getting better and better.
Um, well, no. Not unless you’re the world’s most notorious cougar hunter, anyway.
The ratio is more or less exactly even, until you get into the 50+ demographic. That’s where the numbers start to skew in favor of females. That oh-so-nice-looking 0.84 figure is thus due entirely to a shortage of men 50 and over.
The good news is that if you’re hot for Estonian chicks in their sixties, you’re playing an advantage game.
See here.
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Gun:
””””””’Tupac Chopra
@ Gunny
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That would be tight.
I think it is more that at that moment I will sell my soul to the devil.
Understandable. The vid can be interpreted as the angst a devoted provider beta must feel when he makes the hard decision to ditch his untameable hypergamous wife — knowing that even then his life is about to involve a lot of getting fucked in the ass by the System or The Man.
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lol @ C dawg
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This is kinda cool that you all think so highly of Estonian women.
But I also see a lot of random assumptions thrown out there.
If you have any real questions about Estonian women, lmk cause i’d hate to see American men being misinformed about us.
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but I thought that was nicole in the vid
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I know it’s heterodoxy here but I’m still far more partial to American women. It’s the vast cultural divide and accent that make foreign women unattractive to me. I simply can’t get over these things in pursuing any kind of romantic vibe.
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Epoxytocin No. 87, fffuuuck I didn’t catch that.
So, same story as Russia then. Shitty health care exaggerates the lifespan difference between men and women.
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”””””””’Understandable. The vid can be interpreted as the angst a devoted provider beta must feel when he makes the hard decision to ditch his untameable hypergamous wife — knowing that even then his life is about to involve a lot of getting fucked in the ass by the System or The Man.”””””””
Yea that would be an interesting interpretation. That would probably apply to me after my first marriage. Like all monogomous and shit then kept chained in by my marriage vow but once the woman finally left then BAM.
My life took off in the direction where it was supposed to.
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pac: no no no
contrary to our traditional allegiances, nicole and i have actually teamed up in the past to combine forces against the american black man and his over-entitled wife. here is the footage:
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First woman was the opposite of hypergamous though she wanted a normal life not money lol
Why we just didn’t fit.
She would have made a great wife for a beta provider.
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I actually need a bitch who is hypergamous. Ohh that is wierd.
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o’s biggest fear is white men not giving a fuck anymore.
and there you go gregi, dropping some knowledge so i can’t completely blow past all your comments
just messing with you, but you gotta understand: they get a little ‘spergy’ for us Serious Conservative Thinkers
what drugs are you taking tonight?
they are working well, so i would perhaps like to try some
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”””’untameable hypergamous wife””
I can tamer her somewhat but I need her to have her own aspirations of greatness.
My first wife lied she had none.
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ok, they are not working “well” at all
i’m still intrigued
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”””””just messing with you, but you gotta understand: they get a little ‘spergy’ for us Serious Conservative Thinkers”””
lol it is where I lay it out so I can act a little more normal in the real world.
Well I do seem to come up with the same shit as the great books. I just don’t read them.
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””””’Cannon’s Canon
ok, they are not working “well” at all
i’m still intrigued
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Well lets say I go work and then hand my current woman a 100 g’s.
I will come back and she will have created utopia on earth for me to live in.
That kind of thing.
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If I handed the first wife a 100 g’s she would of spent it on crap and have nothing.
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””””Cannon’s Canon
ok, they are not working “well” at all
i’m still intrigued
”””””
I don’t take drugs yet but for 250 g’s I think I will be healed of the anger.
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OK, I just got back from town, and I am very, very drunk. But I still have time to comment.
How fucking stoopid are you people? What the fuck makes you think Eastern Europe is so much better?
Or that this song is a national anthem? IT’s a piece of cheap concert shit sung by retards. Estonia is a waanbe western country. Chicks there are hot, yeah, ok, Riga is better. Maybe on average more traditional but you can do the same gamin in scandinavia or New York if you wanted.
Americans are so fucked up because 50% of you weigh as much as 1000 happy meals.
Stop being a douch and just learn how to game in the city you live . And stop this stupid eastern europe worhsipping. There’s a reason it’s a shitfhole to start with.
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I’m seriously looking up the requirements for a student visa; I hear they have some reputable IT studies. Problem is all the red tape involved in studying/working there.
Oh and if you do want to become a full on citizen of Estonia, you WILL have to renounce your U.S. citizenship.
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Obsidian,
I see your habit of asking rethorical questions in order to expose the supposed hypocrisy of whites shows no sign of change. I know you aren’t really expecting an answer, at least not a honest one, and that you ignored the ones you actually got, but nevertheless I will repeat it here: the obvious reasons why Western PUAs aren’t emigrating en masse to the Baltic states and Eastern Europe are
a) many of them have careers that tie them to their homeland
b) moving to E. Europe requires one to master the local language, and those are notoriously difficult to learn
c) emigrating to another country is a high-risk strategy since you will have to basically start from scratch
d) immigration laws in E Europe are generally strict
One more thing: you are following faulty logic here. Relatively speaking it is Western beta males who have the most to win by emigrating to Eastern Europe, not PUAs. The latter can already pull hot women at home and thus easily avoid marriage 2.0 (they are already getting what they want outside marriage). Western beta males, on the other hand, are screwed over in the Western SMP whereas their provider abilities and betaness would be much more appreciated by women in Eastern Europe, plus they’d have a much smaller chance of being victimized through false rape charges, sexual harassment charges and divorce theft since the laws in E. Europe aren’t as much rigged against men.
I should also point out that college-educated black beta men could also thrive in E. Europe because many women consider them exotic.
Another thing: when American white men complain about AA and welfare they obviously aren’t saying they want those things for themselves as well. If you believe that you are simply mean-spirited and biased. What they obviously mean is that the don’t want anyone to receive AA and welfare because they believe in the free market.
“Liberia? LOL. Nah, I’m a true blue, 100% American. The Obsidian Files is made right here in the home of the brave, bruh.”
Your ancestors were black and originate from Western Africa.
“First off Canon, you’re wrong; second…”
Your debating skills are truly without parallel.
“O: Because they know better than to start something they can’t finish”
What the Hell are you talking about?
“That’s because no one romanticizes Africa the way you guys romanticize Estonia.”
Wrong. What about the NOI and all the black supremacists who spread bullshit about the glorious bygone black civilization of Kemet?
PA,
the bitchy, entitled, female supremacist attitude of American women is facilitated by massive state intervention on their behalf, i.e. AA, welfare, lots of government office jobs, VAWA, IMBRA, sexual harassment laws, DV laws, rape shield laws and female-friendly divorce laws. This is not the case anywhere in E. Europe since the is no nanny state to prop women up this way. This keeps the bitchy, entitled, hypergamous impulses of the local women in check. They couldn’t behave like feminist bitches even if they wanted to. Thankfully there will be no Americanization of Eastern European women.
Doug1,
one real difference I can think of is that the Estonian language is of Finno-Ugric origin whereas Lithuanians and Latvians speak Baltic language of Indo-European origin.
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Höllenhund
We just need to make white males a minority they qualify copared to the whole they are a minority.
Then everyone can go ahead and be equal lol
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PRCalDude,
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O: The NAACP doesn’t “boss around” Black Americans at large. Those in leadership positions hold them by way of elections. Again, look it up.
P: So you just vote in the whitest black guys around, or do the whitest guys around just naturally rise to the top?
O: I don’t know, I’m not a member of the NAACP. Why do you “care” so very much, P?
O: Thomas Sowell and Clarence Thomas are quite dark, by the way.
P: Sowell and Thomas represent about 3% of black voters (when blacks bother to vote).
O: That’s about right.
P: They represent white voting patterns far more than black voting patterns,
O: uh huh…
P: speaking of voting, so they didn’t get to where they are with any black help. How many times have they been called Uncle Toms?
O: I don’t know, didn’t conduct a poll, but last time I checked Black folks had the right to register their views of these two very public figures. Oh, and you left out Denzel, who is universally liked by Black and White Americans.
Sowell went to Howard, and I think Thomas worked for the EEOC prior to joing the SCOTUS. So, there you go.
O: PRCalDude,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulatto
O: Please note what it says for the USA.
P: tl dr.
P: Mulatto is as American as the KKK.
O: Evidently you didn’t read what Wikipedia had to say about the matter closely enough; the term “mulatto” was dropped from the US census as of 1930, and is largely seen today as a derisive term-hence my initial comment to you; the Klan was very much a force in American life well into the 60s. Why it is you seem intent on using a term most African Americans would find insulting, at the least problematic, is as troubling as those Whites, and you would probably be among them, who insist on their right to use the N-word.
O.
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Well, if it ain’t Hollenhund the Hungarian!
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H: I see your habit of asking rethorical questions in order to expose the supposed hypocrisy of whites shows no sign of change.
O: Oh, I don’t have to work that hard, you guys make my job quite easy enough. 🙂
H: I know you aren’t really expecting an answer, at least not a honest one, and that you ignored the ones you actually got, but nevertheless I will repeat it here:
O: I’ve addressed yur laundry list of BS “reasons” (cough, excuses, cough) below…
H: the obvious reasons why Western PUAs aren’t emigrating en masse to the Baltic states and Eastern Europe are
O: Below you focus your comments specifically on lowly Beta Males, saying that PUAs got it going on; above, you say the reverse. Make up your mind, son.
a) many of them have careers that tie them to their homeland
O: Read Florida’s book, if they’re of the highly educated “creative” class, they can go anywhere in the developed world and then some. I have less education formally AND I’m Black, but I can promise you that if I went to Estonia today, and you checked back on me 5 years from now, I’d make it happen AND I’d be getting more ass than a NATO toilet seat. But then, I’m a Game doer; these jokers are Game talkers.
Compare & contrast…
b) moving to E. Europe requires one to master the local language, and those are notoriously difficult to learn
O: HBD says these White masters of the universe will have no problem with such a small thing
c) emigrating to another country is a high-risk strategy since you will have to basically start from scratch
O: BS
d) immigration laws in E Europe are generally strict
O: Yawn
H: One more thing: you are following faulty logic here. Relatively speaking it is Western beta males who have the most to win by emigrating to Eastern Europe, not PUAs.
O: If that’s true, then so is the author of this post. He didn’t say a damn thing about lowly Betas, he was talking about the top spot for PUAs. Checking the subject line helps…
H: The latter
can already pull hot women at home and thus easily avoid marriage 2.0 (they are already getting what they want outside marriage).
O: Again, check the subject line of this post.
H: Western beta males, on the other hand, are screwed over in the Western SMP whereas their provider abilities and betaness would be much more appreciated by women in Eastern Europe, plus they’d have a much smaller chance of being victimized through false rape charges, sexual harassment charges and divorce theft since the laws in E. Europe aren’t as much rigged against men.
O: Yawn. Cry me a river. These guys can learn Game for free in many cases. If they can’t make it happen, it’s al their fault, and crying into their beer here or anywhere else isn’t gonna make a darn bit of difference. And yea, I’m gonna clown their sorry asses every chance I get, which, fortunately, isn’t all that hard to do. 🙂
H: I should also point out that college-educated black beta men could also thrive in E. Europe because many women consider them exotic.
O: That’s interesting given that you don’t know many such Men. Last time I checked not many Brothas are living in Budapest.
H: Another thing: when American white men complain about AA and welfare they obviously aren’t saying they want those things for themselves as well. If you believe that you are simply mean-spirited and biased. What they obviously mean is that the don’t want anyone to receive AA and welfare because they believe in the free market.
O: Then they get off their asses and stop whining, bitching and moaning and actually get engaged in the political process and change things they don’t like. Of course, if they were really all that they’d simply build the institutions they’d like to see from the ground up. Now if you want to get p*ssy on demand, that’s they way to do it.
“Liberia? LOL. Nah, I’m a true blue, 100% American. The Obsidian Files is made right here in the home of the brave, bruh.”
H: Your ancestors were black and originate from Western Africa.
O: West Africa is comprised of many countries and nations. I’m an American citizen with a lineage in this land going back farther than the majority of White guys here. *shrugs*
“First off Canon, you’re wrong; second…”
H: Your debating skills are truly without parallel.
O: Thank you! But this ain’t a debate, son. 😉
“O: Because they know better than to start something they can’t finish”
H: What the Hell are you talking about?
O: I was responding to Dana upthread. Please review it.
“That’s because no one romanticizes Africa the way you guys romanticize Estonia.”
H: Wrong. What about the NOI and all the black supremacists who spread bullshit about the glorious bygone black civilization of Kemet?
O: What about em? *shrugs*
We weren’t talking about the latter, the topic as demarcated above was about the former. Please explain to me why Style and Mystery could find their way to the Eastern bloc while most White boys engage in a circle jerk talking smack about American Women as if anyone gives a shit?
I’ll wait…
O.
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O, wikipedia thingy… do you know that wikipedia references are inadmissible in scholarly work (even at junior high school level) and do you know why?
I know, we are not in a scholarly realm here, but still, using wikipedia as a source/reference of definite and reliable information is… shall we say… lame.
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Don’t hate.
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*adjusts glasses*
“Pardon me good sir, but this term “mulatto” is offensive and, as Wikipedia clearly states, not used in the US anymore. Kindly refrain from using it.”
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isn’t this article a simple case of being fooled by randomness? the sample size is retardedly small and is biased in favor of prettier women (cameras at large events often target good looking girls in the crowd).
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Höllenhund, all good, just a bit of a refinement.
In Estonia, about 90% of young people are fluent or nearly fluent in English. As for the dealings in a government bureau environment, if you know Russian, it may be sufficient as almost all older (40+) people know Russian, but people would look at you a bit … askance. Even the Russian minority uses eesti vabariik outside of their family environment.
Latvia and Lithuania – Russian (40+) and Polish (Lithuania, 60+) may be helpful. As with Estonia, English is a lingua franca of young, though to a lesser degree than in Estonia.
Neither my Polish nor Russian are stellar, but they could prolly let me bridge the time before learning the official lingo.
However, I’d have a field day in Czech and Slovakia, though I would probably fake an accent as girls go! 😉
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Anonymous,
isn’t this article a simple case of being fooled by randomness? the sample size is retardedly small and is biased in favor of prettier women (cameras at large events often target good looking girls in the crowd).
One of the most uglyfying factors is being fat. I don’t mean curvy, I mean michelin mascot fat, blubber wrapped whales.
You won’t find it Baltics in the volume that is common here. It is rare over there. So, yes, a lot of plain janes there, but lean and not mean. The lack of the second would give a half point to the Baltics girls over their North American counterparts, it seems to “shine through”.
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@Tupac Chopra
“Good pussy smells and tastes like a box of waxy Crayons. Not fish or sharp cheddar.”
But I love tuna and cheese. Smegma tastes good too, where’s Nicole? I’m hungry for breakfast.
I also like vanilla and strawberry flavor.
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I have a question for any other black men that may be lurking on this site.
Where is our Estonia ?
I’ve been to Trinidad during Carnival and yes, the quality there is better than in the States.
What other places do you know of.
And for everyone on else, no, we do not want big women.
Successful black men want thin, fit women just as much as anyone else.
I’m sick of folks attributing a fatty preference to all black men when you are only observing broke dudes.
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Jay Gould,
That all depends on what you mean by “successful Black Men”. In parts of Africa such Men very much prefer fuller figured ladies. Try Cameroon, for example.
Morselleuax,
What’s lame is your own admission that this isn’t a scholarly venue, yet still attempting to upbraid me about the use of Wikipedia. That, dear sir, is an ad hominem ploy, a logical fallacy. Please address my claim: that in our time, the use of the word “mulatto” is seen as derisive. True, or false?
Also, do you agree or disagree with my point that if indeed those who think as Roissy does, that Eastern European Women are the bomb and American Women are not, why aren’t these guys making any moves over there? After all, not only have Style and Mystery proven than it could be done, but so too did RooshV (he went to Brazil, as I recall). Wouldn’t that be a much more productive use of time, rather than blathering on about American Women that they’ve already have determined they don’t like, or you attempting to foist a weaksauce feeble attack on me that I can turn away like flicking off a bit of dirt on my shoulder?
😉
Holla back, son.
O.
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Also, Jay Gould,
Seems like you answered your own question-that Trinidad and perhaps other points in the Caribbean is the place for the kinds of ladies you prefer.
Which makes my earlier query posed to our White brethren even more prescient for you-after all, you don’t have the same distance to travel that they have to consider. So, what’s your excuse, son?
I wanna hear this one…
O.
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One of the lessons I learned about “game” was to go where everyone else wasn’t. It’s really guerrilla tactics. So when I was in the PUA game I would have loved the fact that many American Men were flowing towards Eastern European or Asian women. Then I could flow towards the American women.
No matter where you play, you have to kiss frogs. No way out of it.
In my first job in Silicon Valley there was an ice princess working there. A few men made a try at her but halfheartedly. She was just too exotic, too remote and seemingly unattainable.
I focused on her (the field was wide open) starting with strictly business related conversation and gradually finding some common ground. That led to dinner and eventually a wild all night F#$K fest. No one knew I had bagged her until a few years later over beers the guys were listing the girls they had banged at this company. Back in the 1970’s you could still bang co workers without fear of sexual harassment.
I was silent when finally one of them turned to me and asked me who I had slept with. When I said her name their respective mouth dropped open wide enough to drive a truck through the gaps.
By the way, she was a nice gal but repressed and she went all lovey-dovey on me which sent me scurrying for the next woman. I gave her some lame excuse about working together and how it was not good for us to be in a relationship.
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We just need to make white males a minority they qualify copared to the whole they are a minority.
Then everyone can go ahead and be equal lol
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Indeed, the Canadian rock band Rush wrote a song called “the tall trees” about how equality always necessitated cutting down the tallest trees in the forest so that they wouldn’t force the shorter flunky trees to struggle in the shade.
That’s why equality forms the bedrock of communism, and why the USA is one the way to becoming the USSR.
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You are pure gold – you’re like a White-Obsidian
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For a public movie theater, those are the quietest, best-behaved blacks ever and I commend O for dispelling the myths.
let’s hope the king knows it’s real-life footage
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Sorry, but these women in the first vid aren’t all that hot. The one with the big teeth is especially wonky.
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See fellas, here’s the thing for me, that I’m just not getting any satisfaction on here…
I’m really not getting the whole vibe of whining and complaining about Women you don’t like. Game ain’t about that. Game, is about giving you the tools and skills you need to actually get the Women you want. Anyone can whine, bitch and moan-and, please do not fool yourselves gents, you ARE whining, bitching and moaning-about American Women. It will change nothing. Not. A. Damned. Thing.
Now, if indeed Eastern European Women-or in the case of our good friend here, Jay Gould, certain Black ladies from the Caribbean-is indeed your shot, it only follows that you go where what you actually want, is. Not continue to whine, bitch and moan, about the Women you don’t want.
Make sense?
Now, try and follow me here, fellas…
Many if not most of you, have marketable skills. Advanced degrees. Disposable incomes. It ain’t that hard to get passports, arrange plane flights, etc et al. You can do this, gents. It’s all within your power to do.
It’s been done before. Style, Mystery, even Roosh, have proven it.
What you guys should be talking about, is how Roissy can lead a team of you guys over there, to get with the gals you want.
Not leading a circle jerk. Because for real, that’s not Alpha.
I’m just sayin.
Stop making excuses, stop ducking and dodging the important questions, stop scapegoating, stop whining and bitching, and just do it.
The end.
O.
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@noob
Well said.
Game = Acting Male. That’s it. The secret is out.
BTW, girls in the West are dying of thirst for real masculinity. It’s a metrosexual-herb desert. Esp true for girl children, their fathers are often woosified beta herbs.
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tupac
are you ever going to reveal to me whether or not i used to know you in the philly hardcore scene?
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tupac
are you ever going to reveal to me whether or not i used to know you in the philly hardcore scene? oh and no more dirty comments on my blog!! bad! i will have to delete them forthwith
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@theobsidianfiles
All “mulatto” means is that a person is partially of black and partially of white ancestry. Realistically, almost all blacks these days are mulatto, in the sense that they have one or more white ancestors somewhere in their family tree. The only real African Americans are recent immigrants from (sub Saharan) Africa.
The banishment of “mulatto” from the vocabulary also serves to prevent much thinking about the fact that most “black leaders” are not pure black.
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Also, Jay Gould,
Seems like you answered your own question-that Trinidad and perhaps other points in the Caribbean is the place for the kinds of ladies you prefer.
Which makes my earlier query posed to our White brethren even more prescient for you-after all, you don’t have the same distance to travel that they have to consider. So, what’s your excuse, son?
I wanna hear this one…
O.
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There’s no excuse Obsidian. I am financially tethered to the US ( for now), but am saving money and preparing myself
I should be in a position to leave in about 4 years / 5 tops. Hopefully three.
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@Jay Gould
“I have a question for any other black men that may be lurking on this site.
Where is our Estonia ?”
Brazil, duh.
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@Jay Gould
“I have a question for any other black men that may be lurking on this site.
Where is our Estonia ?”
Brazil, duh.
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I confess to my ignorance on Brazil, as I haven’t been there yet.
It just seems to me that the women there (the photos I’ve seen ) look more latin-ish than Black.
Not sure if that is a correct assumption.
Also, I’m not sure if a black american man could blend in with the local population without standing out visually in Brazil the way a white guy could in Estonia.
But again, I haven’t been there to see. Just my assumptions.
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just like sacred Native-Amerindians who only get the percentage of casino/free college bennies based on the percentage of their “racial purity” jawohl,
when Pedro takes over and makes Darelle and Lakeeshia accept the WIC/SSI discount based on their bloodline.
there gonna be a revo-lootion
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If you want to see hot women, watch CBS on Saturday this fall. The quality of women in the southeastern conference makes me want to go see the Georgia Bulldogs!
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@ OhioStater
yeah, but to nail one of those, you’ve got to be like Favre and send a dickpic to Jenn-caliber ass.
btw, fuck your buckeyes
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raliv
This country needs a cleansing. A total war to weed out the weak and the unhealthy. We need to destroy ourselves in order to rebuild. ”
I don’t get this attitude most of you guys here and in the white nationalist sphere has. I know most of us don’t want to admit it but we are, to some extent, swpl yuppy betas. We’re not the ‘alphas’ in the traditional sense. If there’s a revolutionary war or whatever you’re preaching for, it’s not us who will win. It will be the poor thugs (whatever color they are) who grew up in shitty areas having to fight for any and everything they got. They’re hard. There not pussies like us who drink fancy coffee and post on the internet.
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@OhioStater,
Yeah, except for the fact that they all like chocolate.
http://deadspin.com/5422400/tennessees-hostess-program-catches-recruits-and-ncaas-eyes-updated
As the saying goes, “Once you go black, please don’t come back.”
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Personally, I think Scandinavians are the hottest.
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here’s the breakdown for brazil according to the census:
white 53.7%, mulatto (mixed white and black) 38.5%, black 6.2%, other (includes Japanese, Arab, Amerindian) 0.9%, unspecified 0.7% (2000 census)
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Michael,
First off, I don’t think there was some great meeting of “Black leaders” where they determined that the word “mulatto” be retired or something, LOL.
And secondly, most African Americans have some White ancestry. For example, First Lady Michelle Obama has it. According to a piece done a little while back in the New York Times, her maternal grandmother had a White dad, if I recall alright. Nor was this all that unusual. I’ve been saying for quite some time here that when African Americans discover they have White roots, all roads tend to lead back to pairings that involved a Black Woman and a White Man.
Finally, I remain fascinated as to why some of you White guys insist on calling African Americans anything other than African Americans. Using terms like “mulatto” and the like are considered offensive; why persist in the practice? What does meanspiritedness get anyone?
I don’t get it.
O.
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Great, I come back here to check things out and that obsidian nigger is shitting all over the post as fuckin per usual.
This clown never quits. He’s just a relentlessly unappealing dirtbag.
How do you turn a post about Estonian women into some nigger grievance shit pile?
How, how is it possible?
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Well well, if it isn’t the jack-booted backwater thug himself, Willard Libby! Longtime no hear, asswipe. How goes it out there in the sticks?
O.
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They were very very plain and average. Bored. next!
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Anyone know where the best looking and nicest olive skinned,
dark eyes and hair, beauties can be found?
Brazil? Spain? Mexico? Italy?( god, some Italian women are other-worldly ), Cuba? Persia?
Any cities to recommend?
Do they like white men?
Are they dateable?
Thank- you.
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Cornell,
Italian women in general and South Italians in particular mature early but don’t age well.
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Do you mean, “Why do I care about a corrupt, nihilistic black organization run by mulattos who have nothing better to do than come up with new ways in which whites are racist while handing out awards to perverts like R Kelley? ”
Sowell and Thomas would have gone nowhere had whites not recognized their talents and promoted them. Had they relied on blacks, they would have remained in obscurity as you don’t get very far in black America by saying things like “BOOTSTRAPS!” to blacks and talking about fewer government handouts. It’s funny that you now want to claim them when they’re basically the undesirables of your civilization.
When black people DO vote, it’s typically for luminaries like this – crazy blacks who are able to work a crowd of gullible blacks with promises of reparations or thoughts on how the gummint created HIV to kill (down low) black people.
It’s pretty tough to find something that blacks don’t find insulting. They’re more sensitive than gays and Jews, really, which is saying quite a bit. They even get butt-hurt if they beat you up and you demand that they be punished. What do you care whether I use some word or not anyway? I’m just some guy on the internet.
BTW, you should probably stop signing every post of yours with “O.” as if it’s some sort of weighty pronouncement. Pretty much everyone who knows any blacks has heard your schtick before and paid grievance-mongers like John McWhorter sound a lot more intelligent.
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anonymous
“Americans don’t known Estonian and the economy there is pretty crap.
The West has been screwed up by social communism while the East has been screwed up by economic communism, and neither side has been doing much breeding.
Neither the less, the idea of finding a reasonably attractive white woman who isn’t a borderline social communist is certainly an appealing prospect the man of independent means.”
So, you’re saying superior white people, East and West are basically f’ed up. That’s not nice.
BTW, click twice on the video and read the YT comments… essentially Stormfront-on-YouTube. I’m certain R read the comments there before posting here. This suggests, our host is a hardcore R.cist.
R’s primary focus is attacking nonwhites whenever possible and wrapping those attacks in an air of respectability and pretend logic.
Fortunately, R is not quite as smart as he thinks he is… he’s just an over educated, gangsta SWPL of middling intelligence with a knack for turning flights of fantasy and leaps to conclusions into needlessly convoluted, flowery prose. Fancy and cheesy.
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Hi PRCalDude,
At this point you’re being an obtrusive troll, but since I have a bit of time to kill, I’m willing to be entertained by you.
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O: I don’t know, I’m not a member of the NAACP. Why do you “care” so very much, P?
P: Do you mean, “Why do I care about a corrupt, nihilistic black organization run by mulattos who have nothing better to do than come up with new ways in which whites are racist while handing out awards to perverts like R Kelley? ”
O: Yes, that one, and again: what’s it to you? Why do you care so much, what Black folks do? How does it impact your life? I mean, given the sheer number of corrupt organizations run by White folk who look like you, couldn’t you find a better use of your time investigating them? Please explain?
O: I don’t know, didn’t conduct a poll, but last time I checked Black folks had the right to register their views of these two very public figures. Oh, and you left out Denzel, who is universally liked by Black and White Americans.
Sowell went to Howard, and I think Thomas worked for the EEOC prior to joing the SCOTUS. So, there you go.
P: Sowell and Thomas would have gone nowhere had whites not recognized their talents and promoted them.
O: That’s debatable, on both counts. Please name a major conversation taking place where Sowell is asked to offer his keen economic insights, and as for Thomas, he was seen as a kind of perverted Affirmative Action hire for the Right during the first Bush era.
P: Had they relied on blacks, they would have remained in obscurity as you don’t get very far in black America by saying things like “BOOTSTRAPS!” to blacks and talking about fewer government handouts.
O: Actually, the fact that Black Americans don’t own or control the levers of power in this society, is the real reason as to why neither of these Men would have achieved. Nice try, though-actually not. Your roadworn tripe is really tired. Find something new to say.
P: It’s funny that you now want to claim them when they’re basically the undesirables of your civilization.
O: I never any such “claim”, I was only laying out the facts about both of them, facts you have yet to refute.
P: When black people DO vote, it’s typically for luminaries like this – crazy blacks who are able to work a crowd of gullible blacks with promises of reparations or thoughts on how the gummint created HIV to kill (down low) black people.
O: Obviously you know nothing about Black voting patterns, including the last presidential elections…
O: Evidently you didn’t read what Wikipedia had to say about the matter closely enough; the term “mulatto” was dropped from the US census as of 1930, and is largely seen today as a derisive term-hence my initial comment to you; the Klan was very much a force in American life well into the 60s. Why it is you seem intent on using a term most African Americans would find insulting,
P: It’s pretty tough to find something that blacks don’t find insulting. They’re more sensitive than gays and Jews, really, which is saying quite a bit. They even get butt-hurt if they beat you up and you demand that they be punished. What do you care whether I use some word or not anyway? I’m just some guy on the internet.
O: Yes, that’s true. You’re just some loser on the internet. Good point.
P: BTW, you should probably stop signing every post of yours with “O.” as if it’s some sort of weighty pronouncement. Pretty much everyone who knows any blacks has heard your schtick before and paid grievance-mongers like John McWhorter sound a lot more intelligent.
O: Wow, that’s quite weighty yourself, if you ask me. First, there you go again giving out unsolicited advice to Darkies, LOL. Listen closely, son: if, and when, I want your advice, I wil be keen to ask you for it, hmm?
As for McWhorter, wow. I thought guys like him would be cool in your little world.
O.
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here’s the breakdown for brazil according to the census:
white 53.7%, mulatto (mixed white and black) 38.5%, black 6.2%, other (includes Japanese, Arab, Amerindian) 0.9%, unspecified 0.7% (2000 census)
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I guess they use different terms to categorize groups there than we do in the US.
I realize this isn’t scientific, but if you go to a site like brazilgirls.com, all I see are women that would be considered hispanic or latino in the United States.
Not what I’m looking for.
I assume these women are the “mulattos”
Light skinned Black women in the US (those with a lot of European ancestry) have a much different look than this.
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Thank you Höllenhund.
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does one person here actually bother to read it when he makes those poorly formatted dialogue posts?
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Or maybe I’m wrong and just have to go there and see if there is this not-shown reservoir of attractive black women.
Since I realize any marketing of Brazilian women would likely be catering to the tastes of white men.
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Jay Gould,
I don’t see why you can’t relocate and do what you’re doing now over in the Caribbean. If you’re highly college educated and work in say, finance or something along those lines, I don’t see what the problem is.
The Caribbean has the kinds of Women you’re seeking. For example, Rihanna, who is considered “White” in her native Barbados. She is by no means alone, and there are many such Women throughout the islands, including Haiti, Jamaica, Trinidad and Puerto Rico.
I don’t get all the cold feet you guys get here. You all talk a mean game about how great these other Women are, and how bad America is, yet you balk whenever anyone asks you to actually take the plunge. I aint got nothing but mad love and respect for RooshV insofar as this issue is concerned. The Man just did the damn thing.
That’s what I’m talking about.
O.
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Actually Dana, they do. Including you. 😉
And, you still do NOT know what you’re talking about when it comes to Hip Hop, LOL. Although I do think it’s cute that you listened to Chubb Rock back when.
😉
O.
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I don’t read any of his posts. Unless they are in blockquote and being replied to.
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Jay Gould,
There are plenty of Black Women in Brazil, and by that I mean, lighter skinned, thinner ones that you have stated a preference for. I know this because I have quite a few friends who attend Carnival every year, for years. I’ve seen the pics. Trust me, you’d like.
O.
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Oh come on, Xsplat. You guys act as if someone’s crashed your little treehouse party or something, LOL. Grow up, and Man Up, all of youse.
LOL
O.
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I’m not sure the owner of this blog considers me a troll. He’d probably have erased my comments and blocked my IP by now if he did. “Trolling” was what I did on your blog. lol at you erasing my coments. BTW, I think wordpress software allows you to block IPs, so you can prevent me from leaving anymore comments on there that might give you heartburn.
Sowell writes economics columns and books read by white people. He writes for Townhall.com. Not many black folks read that. If Thomas was an AA hire for the right back in the early 90s, isn’t that pretty much “white people promoting him” as I said earlier?
You’re not making any sense. You are aware that the president is mulatto, aren’t you? So is the AG. Are they just puppets of the devious WASPs or Jews? Maybe we should ask Cynthia McKinney.
Not “Darkies,” – you. Though you are fairly typical black male narcissist, I’m not making any broader recommendations to your race.
Also, since there’s a 70% chance that you’re a bastard, I’m not sure you’re the best candidate to be calling anyone “Son” or offering fatherly advice. Black people are not a fatherly race, they’re pretty much maternal.
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Jay Gould,
There are plenty of Black Women in Brazil, and by that I mean, lighter skinned, thinner ones that you have stated a preference for. I know this because I have quite a few friends who attend Carnival every year, for years. I’ve seen the pics. Trust me, you’d like.
O.
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Okay. Im sold. Brazil’s on the list to check out.
I’ll put Barbados and Belize in there to.
BTW, I actually have a (slight) preference for darker complexioned black women.
But thinner absolutely yes.
My ideal would somewhere around (Stacey Dash / Ciara type)
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According to wikipedia, Estonia has a sex ratio of .84 males for every female.
This keeps getting better and better.
That ratio is for all age groups. Still, according to the wiki page you cited, Estonia has the lowest male/female ratio of any white person country even in the 15-64 age bracket, at .91.
Or, if you think Armenians are white, in their country it’s even better in that bracket: .88.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_sex_ratio
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Seriously, you run a blog and don’t know how to use HTML tags?
Your “Man up” schtick is hilarious, too. Some goony black nerd wikipedia editor is a paragon of masculinity IRL.
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PRCalDude,
More replies below: (this is kinda fun!)
O: At this point you’re being an obtrusive troll, but since I have a bit of time to kill, I’m willing to be entertained by you.
P: I’m not sure the owner of this blog considers me a troll. He’d probably have erased my comments and blocked my IP by now if he did. “Trolling” was what I did on your blog. lol at you erasing my coments. BTW, I think wordpress software allows you to block IPs, so you can prevent me from leaving anymore comments on there that might give you heartburn.
O: Trolling is a practice that has largely to do with not actually discussing the topic at hand as expressed by the author. To date you haven’t done this, while I have.
As for my site, I don’t mind your participation, so long as you do troll and make a fool out of yourself. When that happens, I simply delete the offending posts. 🙂
O: That’s debatable, on both counts. Please name a major conversation taking place where Sowell is asked to offer his keen economic insights, and as for Thomas, he was seen as a kind of perverted Affirmative Action hire for the Right during the first Bush era.
P: Sowell writes economics columns and books read by white people. He writes for Townhall.com. Not many black folks read that. If Thomas was an AA hire for the right back in the early 90s, isn’t that pretty much “white people promoting him” as I said earlier?
O: Yes, but not for the reasons I’ve outlined. Sowell is every bit a “Race Man” as Obama’s accused of being, he’s only a Race Man for the Right. Please name one major national conversation where Sowell was consulted for his economic expertise/acumen and that alone? I’ll wait. And no, Townhall doesn’t count because we all know why he’s there. Which I’m cool with, btw. In fact, there are quite a few things Sowell’s said that I think are quite compelling. But let’s not fool ourselves here: Sowell is where he is not so much for his stellar econ prowess, but because of his racial views which the Right finds appealing. *shrugs*
O: Actually, the fact that Black Americans don’t own or control the levers of power in this society, is the real reason as to why neither of these Men would have achieved. Nice try, though-actually not. Your roadworn tripe is really tired. Find something new to say.
P: You’re not making any sense. You are aware that the president is mulatto, aren’t you? So is the AG. Are they just puppets of the devious WASPs or Jews? Maybe we should ask Cynthia McKinney.
O: No need P, since a simple understanding of our gov’t and how it works will suffice.
The presidency is an elected office, of which there aren’t enough African Americans to vote in the POTUS of their choice alone; it took a sizable chunk of White voters to make that happen. The AG’s spot isn’t elected, it’s appointed, and last time I checked there was only one Black Senator in office. The rest were White.
Who is it that doesn’t know what they’re talking about, now?
O: Wow, that’s quite weighty yourself, if you ask me. First, there you go again giving out unsolicited advice to Darkies, LOL. Listen closely, son: if, and when, I want your advice, I wil be keen to ask you for it, hmm?
P: Not “Darkies,” – you. Though you are fairly typical black male narcissist, I’m not making any broader recommendations to your race.
O: Sure you are, P. That’s OK though since we’ve both agreed that you’re nothin but a guy on the internet no one, including Black folk, are gonna listen to you. 😉
P: Also, since there’s a 70% chance that you’re a bastard, I’m not sure you’re the best candidate to be calling anyone “Son” or offering fatherly advice. Black people are not a fatherly race, they’re pretty much maternal.
O: Then you don’t know what it means in the common vernacular. “Son” in this case means that the guy being so-called isn’t up to speed on matters. It has nothing to do with one’s literal lineage, etc.
Wow, you Aspergy types truly are all alike!
O.
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Re: Obsidian and such words as mulatto
We pale Americans are confused about what to call a person of color of African descent. Please understand that in the 1940’s, the proper term was “colored” for persons of African ancestry living in the USA. Calling someone black was offensive at that time. Blackness was considered a sign of inferior status. Think about the abbreviation, NAACP. Since then, there have been a several other terms considered proper.
“Black” was de rigor for a while, during the 1960’s and 1970’s when “black pride” was all the rage. Being “black” was “in.” “Colored” was considered offensive. I remember when Diana Ross was SO celebrated for being “black and beautiful” by a fawning press.
I thought the term “black” was nice. But, something happened to give “black” a bad connotation in the minds of some people. All those dreadful statistics and headlines were always preceded by “black”. You know, like:
Black Students Riot was a common headline.
Blacks Riots would occur in the Summer on a regular basis in Northern urban areas.
Black Crime Rates
Black Dropout Rates
Black Illegitimacy Rates
Black Unemployment Rates
So, they dropped “black” and started using Afro-American. But, even that became sullied by association (“Afro-American riot” comes off the tongue too easily, and they started calling some haircuts “Afros.”), so now we have African American. That is so long and awkward to say and write, that they use “black” when they publish those awful statistics, keeping the name African American free of such nasty connotation.
“African-American” seems to have caught on, but this causes great confusion because not all Africans in this country are American citizens. I feel awkward calling people Africans, but, I can’t tell always if they are citizens. This is a real problem in health care, where I work, because many blacks in health care are recent African or Caribbean immigrants. What would be the proper way to refer to their ethnicity?
I really think African Americans shouldn’t worry about words, whether they begin with n or not. They really have a lot of problem to solve, because, it is a sure thing that European Americans have lost their inclination to solve the myriad problems of African societies in this country and around the world. Don’t worry about what pale faces call you. That is irrelevant.
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PRCalDude,
How is it possible to be both ignorant of HTML, and be a Wiki editor at the same time?
And, what I said stands. This whole thread comes off as one big whine session. Nor do I find it coincidental that you have yet to actually speak to the topic.
Hmm. Funny that.
O.
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Jay Gould:
Anecdote: My older sister was good friends with Stacey Dash for a couple of years growing up. Right around when she was about 12 years old, something like that. And even in that time she was already a gorgeous girl, we were all amazed at her green eyes. As a young boy I had a crush on her, I think it was the first darker girl I ever liked.
They drifted apart and never spoke again after a few years, but when we found out she was in the movie Clueless, we weren’t surprised that she became a minor celebrity. She definitely stood out and got a lot of attention for her looks when we were younger.
(true story, not a fake e-story. I wish there was more to it like: “I eventually banged her!” but it wasn’t to be.).
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(true story, not a fake e-story. I wish there was more to it like: “I eventually banged her!” but it wasn’t to be.).
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LOL
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”””'(true story, not a fake e-story. I wish there was more to it like: “I eventually banged her!” but it wasn’t to be.).””””’
Maybe one day you might get lucky and do something actually cool.
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someone wrote:
“Sowell writes economics columns and books read by white people. He writes for Townhall.com. Not many black folks read that.”
Am I the only one who thinks it’s odd that whites are usually referred to as “white people” whereas blacks are referred to as “black folks”?
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””””””Jay Gould
I have a question for any other black men that may be lurking on this site.
Where is our Estonia ?
I’ve been to Trinidad during Carnival and yes, the quality there is better than in the States.
What other places do you know of.
And for everyone on else, no, we do not want big women.
Successful black men want thin, fit women just as much as anyone else.
I’m sick of folks attributing a fatty preference to all black men when you are only observing broke dudes.
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Already said on past threads somalia. Don’t worry they are terrible shots. Have you seen blackhawk down?
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Gun:
You’re still mad at me huh 😉
By the way, one more quick thing to add to my Stacey Dash anecdote now that my memory is refreshed: at 12 she already had a nice set of boobs. I recall staring at them often when she wore tight t-shirts. I just checked google images and it was nice to finally get to see Stacey’s tits. Weird how this works out in the internet age.
My sister was jealous I believe because she was still flat as a board. She eventually grew a nice set of tits though. (did I just say that out loud?)
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In the movie those where not somalians.
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@Firepower
It’s hard to be humble, when you’re as great as I am.
I completely understand where you’re coming from. But envy is not the path to go.
Nice try with the white obsidian, but you should know those don’t exist unless you are talking about Nike. But only lesser men wear those sweatshop made kicks.
I know Aikido, Judo, Kyokushin Karate & Muai Thai. Wanna mess? Go ahead. I’ll break you American History X style.
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””””’sharpcool
Gun:
Maybe one day you might get lucky and do something actually cool.
You’re still mad at me huh 😉
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It was more the donate thing and the treat americans like children that was pissing me off. Then my bosnian friend who I taught the excel guru secrets to just got promoted he he he
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I was actually hoping that one day you actually did something cool he he he
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Like me one day I will actually go to somalia and actually get some somali hot ass.
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Obsidian–
Most of the long time regulars here have long figured out that meanspiritedness, in particular race baiting smart beta white guys with your semi rhetorical, always trying to entrap, questions. The beta white guys that are here are trying to unlearn leftist feminism and learn game, so it’s a happy hunting ground for your anti white male animus. It’s been a long, long time since you’ve made any comments here that were genuinely constructive.
It’s no surprise that when you show up and begin your race baiting (fairly subtle but by now utterly transparent to most of the regulars here), comment threads here almost always turn into race based attacks back and forth. The same is not true of a lot of other black guys on here, or girls like Chic Noir.
In short you’ve become a race baiting troll here Obsidian/Mu-min. You didn’t start out that way here. First you build some cred talking about game from a black perspective. Noting differences in your approach, etc. But those days are long gone. I suspect it was your plan from the start to push your theme that axiomatically, smart white guys can’t get laid, by and large. Which is bs. Nerds and smart guys aren’t the same.
Meanwhile your supporters here, no doubt overwhelmingly black, all post anonymously or using names made up for the occasion on this thread. I.e. they’re nobody’s around here, or cowards – or you posting under different names.
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What does that mean, “Bring tha movies?” “Game from a black perspective” sounds like trolling also.
Which is true in THA OBSIDIAN’S case as well.
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Yeah, I think the Obsidian act is pretty tired. At his best Obsidian is somewhere between Ricky Raw on the serious side and vk on the fun side. Both vk and Ricky Raw at least try to give advice white guys can use but I’m not sure if Obsidian does the same.
Obviously the goal of most guys on this site is to date white women, and Roissy’s argument is the standard deviation of beauty in Estonia is uncommonly low. Nothing too controversial about that, and no need to polarize the forum.
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Hi Doug,
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D: Most of the long time regulars here have long figured out that meanspiritedness, in particular race baiting smart beta white guys with your semi rhetorical, always trying to entrap, questions.
O: Really, now? So, merely asking what complaining about American Women who they have already determined they don’t like or are attracted to, does to actually help advance these very same “smart white beta males”, is somehow a sinister ploy to “entrap” them by asking “race baiting” questions? Is this what you’re saying Doug?
Moreover, how does those same “smart, white beta males” engaging in derisive commentary, like calling Black folk “mulatto”, make them any better at learning Game? Please explain this to me Doug? Thanks.
D: The beta white guys that are here are trying to unlearn leftist feminism and learn game, so it’s a happy hunting ground for your anti white male animus.
O: Oh, I don’t need to come here to find a coven of angry, bitter White guys who’ve drank the Glenn Beck koolaid, LOL. But don’t take my word for it, go see the Spearhead and look into its July 2010 archives for yourself. Personally, I think it’s quite pathetic, and something Style himself would never sign off on. Last time I checked, he would qualify as one of those smart, white, beta males you love to sing the virtues of.
Besides, the current topic is about PUAs, NOT smart, white beta males. So what gives?
D: It’s been a long, long time since you’ve made any comments here that were genuinely constructive.
O: So, asking these guys what they hope to gain by bitterly complaining about American Women isn’t constructive?
D: It’s no surprise that when you show up and begin your race baiting (fairly subtle but by now utterly transparent to most of the regulars here),
O: The racebaiting wasn’t begun by me. It was begun by Roissy himself and others like him who agree with his views. My “problem” was that I refused to take it laying down, and chose to speak out against it. Get over it.
D: comment threads here almost always turn into race based attacks back and forth.
O: They do because most White guys here cannot take someone coming into their sacred little treehouse. Their problem.
D: The same is not true of a lot of other black guys on here, or girls like Chic Noir.
O: Yes, I know. And that is a true shame, especially for the Brothas.
D: In short you’ve become a race baiting troll here Obsidian/Mu-min. You didn’t start out that way here. First you build some cred talking about game from a black perspective. Noting differences in your approach, etc. But those days are long gone.
O: Had the overall tone of the forum remained respectful toward Black folk, there would never be any need for me to go there and mess up R and Co.’s worlds. But they drew first blood. So be it.
D: I suspect it was your plan from the start to push your theme that axiomatically, smart white guys can’t get laid, by and large. Which is bs. Nerds and smart guys aren’t the same.
O: No they’re not, but I think its fair to say that by and large, if you’re White and Male and you hang out in the Roissy/HBDsphere, chances are quite high that you’re nerdy and have trouble getting some. Why that should be so problematic in just saying that is beyond me, especially given that so many of you claim to want to keep it real. *shrugs*
D: Meanwhile your supporters here, no doubt overwhelmingly black, all post anonymously or using names made up for the occasion on this thread. I.e. they’re nobody’s around here, or cowards – or you posting under different names.
O: LOL. You’ve been watching too many spy flicks
Holla back Doug, and when you do, perhaps you can explain to me why, if Eastern European gals are the bomb and American Women ain’t, these guys aren’t making the move over there?
Thanks.
O.
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I struggle at times to see the goal of mindsets like Obsidians. Is it to constantly bring up race issues for the sake of controversy, or is it to solve race issues by way of highlighting them? Unfortunately many of the issues will never be solved and there is no benefit or gain realized from debate.
What can America realistically do (consistent with the rule of law, the laws of economics, and the fact China controls our destiny) to make blacks happy, while at the same time preserving America’s preeminent place in the world? That is my first question should I ever debate someone like Obsidian.
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@Noob
“OK, I just got back from town, and I am very, very drunk. But I still have time to comment.
How fucking stoopid are you people? What the fuck makes you think Eastern Europe is so much better?”
It shows white American men how much better-looking the average white women can be if no obesity epidemic and no Feminism, thereby putting pressure on white women in this country to shape up.
Stoopid.
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doug It’s been a long, long time since you’ve made any comments here that were genuinely constructive
Yet the race stuff still went on and on and on.
It’s no surprise that when you show up and begin your race baiting (fairly subtle but by now utterly transparent to most of the regulars here), comment threads here almost always turn into race based attacks back and forth.
that because the rest of us just ignore the racists. we know they are out there but we don’t lost sleep on them either. or maybe we’re more docile than obs which really isn’t a good thing.
In short you’ve become a race baiting troll here Obsidian/Mu-min.
Really? what about all the non blk commmenters here who regurly make comments on race?
PA, cannon’s canon, tupac, firpower, the king etc… Why are you only pointing out OBS?
You didn’t start out that way here.
no, he let them hurl their crap for a good long while before he struck back.
Uncle mu, why do you bother trying to reason or debate with these people? You know a good number of them are aspergy nerds who have no life or interests outside of this blog. Who repeat the same garbage over and over and over again.
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OhioStater,
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OS: I struggle at times to see the goal of mindsets like Obsidians. Is it to constantly bring up race issues for the sake of controversy, or is it to solve race issues by way of highlighting them?
O: Excellent question, OS. I have often asked very similar questions about myself, about Roissy and others. For example, he’s gone on record as making highly negative comments directed toward Black Women, which, given his own and other of his readers’ interests, doesn’t make much sense at all. I mean, if you’re into Russian Women, why the need to bring up Black Women at all?
Moreover, let’s be clear: Roissy has a venue that at the very least, is friendly to HBD concerns. Usually, the lens is directed away from Whites and focused on non-Whites.
Lastly, as far as this thread is concerned, I only asked a question, both of Roissy and of his readers. I have yet to receive satisfactory answers. But it seems that the very act of a Black Man posing such questions is uncomfortable for some White guys here.
So be it. Not my moral crisis to solve.
OS: Unfortunately many of the issues will never be solved and there is no benefit or gain realized from debate.
O: I suppose that explains why Roissy and others think they can just make desultory comments about fellow American citizens with impunity?
OS: What can America realistically do (consistent with the rule of law, the laws of economics, and the fact China controls our destiny) to make blacks happy, while at the same time preserving America’s preeminent place in the world? That is my first question should I ever debate someone like Obsidian.
O: End chronic discriminatory practices against African Americans. This is fully in keeping with the rules America itself has set forth, equal justice for all. Black folk don’t hamper America’s place in the world-we don’t make war or political or economic policy. That also goes for the current situation w/China.
Next question?
O.
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“So, same story as Russia then. Shitty health care exaggerates the lifespan difference between men and women.”
If by “shitty health care” you mean alcoholism, I agree.
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There are no race issues to solve in the West, besides the open antipathy generated towards Islam and the groups that get flack as a side effect of that.
There are no race issues in the Western world especially for black people. Their music is venerated, they are cast as sex objects in music, there is a black president (mulatto or not, that’s what people consider him) and one successful black man per show is some sort of quota. Black people have affirmative action in America and the support of various groups that automatically assume discrimination.
A problem for some blacks seems to be a class issue at the moment, and an internal subculture that is defeating the community. There’s a distinct tendency towards criminality that noone can deny. This tendency is even celeberated and romanticised in the music business. That’s not to say it’s exclusive to blacks. It seems to be a vicious circle in low socioeconomic groups, with a larger tendency in blacks both because of subculture and apparently higher testosterone levels.
I’m not sure if it’s a transatlantic phenomenon but a positive thing is the strong church support that some blacks have, and a determination to make something out of themselves. I’ve seen that in action too.
Seriously, how can we even pretend race is much of an issue in a world of equal opportunities, political correctness and endless other measures?
The outstanding problems are Islamophobia and insufficiently controlled immigration. In the real world, even these do not generate any problems at the moment. That is, no real problems unless we count some governmental measures in various Western nations placing increasing restrictions and monitoring on muslims. However, the undercurrents are there.
A dark storm may possibly be on the horizons if these issues remain unresolved. How much blood will there be in the tsunami unleashed by the rage of a discontented populace?
[Editor: Islamophobia is the outstanding problem? What planet did you just step off of?
Islam is the problem. In its current incarnation it is a degenerate religion. It is a primitive religion. It is a gutter religion incompatible with Western values and lifestyle. Like a virus it infects the modern West and subverts it, directly through its violence and teachings about the infidels, and indirectly by appealing to and thus commandeering the limpwristed universalist instincts of self-loathing leftist apologists. Accepting the immigrants of such a deranged religion is playing with fire. In small numbers they can be pacified. In large numbers they are a threat.
Islam is either quarantined or demolished. There is no third way. Islam’s own adherents have seen to that.]
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“End chronic discriminatory practices against African Americans. This is fully in keeping with the rules America itself has set forth, equal justice for all. ”
Somebody needs to take this man’s temperature.
“Chronic discriminatory practices” against non-NAM are a perfect way to describe AA.
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In case you can’t understand the lyrics.
Lyrics to 5 Million Ways To Kill A CEO :
You’ve got five million ways to kill a CEO
Slap ’em up and shake ’em up and then you know
Let ’em off the flow then bait ’em with the dough
You can do it funk or do it disco
yeah disco
Five million ways to kill a CEO
Slap ’em up and shake ’em up and then you know
Let ’em off the flow then bait ’em with the dough
You can do it funk or do it disco
yeah disco
hoe you justified that it was worth your waitin’
On the turf debatin’ how to get it perculatin’
He workin’ you while we happy just to work a day
But I’m gonna slap ’em ’til my blood starts circulatin’
Do yo’ checks have elasticity
Did they cut off yo’ ‘lectricity
Did you scream and yell explicitly
Force the boss into complicity
I’m a white chalk stencil but I push a pencil
Rollin’ dope fiend rentals through your residential
Broke as fuck, eatin’ lentils with no utensils
Fin to teach pimp class with a ho credential
They own sweatshops pet cops and fields of cola
Murder babies with they molars on the areola
Control the pope, Dahli Lama, holly rollers, and the Ayatollah.
Bump this rollin in your bucket of your new Corolla
You might catch me on the scenic route
with my penis out
Yellin’ “Twamps for the executive with the meanest mouth!”
Wanna know what this demeanor’s ’bout
City try to clean us out
Green is clout, shut ’em down
They ain’t never seen a drought
You interviewed but they ain’t callin’ ya back
And for the record I ain’t called it a gat
But tuck this in the small of your back
Wait in the bathroom stall ’til attack
You’ve got five million ways to kill a CEO
Slap ’em up and shake ’em up and then you know
Let ’em off the flow then bait ’em with the dough
You can do it funk or do it disco
yeah disco
Five million ways to kill a CEO
Slap ’em up and shake ’em up and then you know
Let ’em off the flow then bait ’em with the dough
You can do it funk or do it disco
yeah disco
‘Cept this game ain’t slow it’s the creeper
If you a janitor get a street sweeper
Ugly is even skin deeper
If you can’t get the prez get the veeper
They made the murder scene before there was a coroner
I mighta been born here, but I’m a foreigner
Spillin’ swigs for victims of pigs
and Afeni’s kid
flip off the lid
who ya pourin’ for
You too could be corporate dream killer
Bean spiller
Gansta of love just like Steve Miller
They wear skivvies that’s made of chinchilla
Factory in Mexico, bought a spring villa
I’m from the land where the Panthers grew
You know the city and the avenue
If you the boss we be smabbin through
And we’ll be grabbin’ you
To say “What’s up with the revenue?”
And if you feel it we can even
try to seal it with a …
Five million ways to kill a CEO
Slap ’em up and shake ’em up and then you know
Let ’em off the flow then bait ’em with the dough
You can do it funk or do it disco
yeah disco
Five million ways to kill a CEO
Slap ’em up and shake ’em up and then you know
Let ’em off the flow then bait ’em with the dough
You can do it funk or do it disco
yeah disco
Tell him there’s a boom in child prostitution
When he show up at the stroll give him lead restitution
You could throw a twenty in a vat of hot oil
When he jump in after it watch him boil
Toss a dollar in the river and when he jump in
If you find he can swim put lead boot on him and do it again
You and a friend
Videotape and the party don’t end
Tell him that buggas be sellin’ like crack
He gonna put the little baggies in his nose and suffocate like that
Put a fifty in the barrel of a gun
When he try to suck it out, well you know this one
Make sure you ain’t got no prior
Don’t tell ’em that we conspired
We could let him try to change a flat tire
Or we could all at once retire
These are just a few of the
Five million ways to kill a CEO
Slap ’em up and shake ’em up and then you know
Let ’em off the flow then bait ’em with the dough
You can do it funk or do it disco
yeah disco
Five million ways to kill a CEO
Slap ’em up and shake ’em up and then you know
Let ’em off the flow then bait ’em with the dough
You can do it funk or do it disco
yeah disco
Bay area, get ready to brawl
Bay area are you ready to brawl
LA, get ready to brawl
LA are you ready to brawl
Chitown, get ready to brawl
Chitown are you ready to brawl
Detroit, get ready to brawl
Detroit are you ready to brawl
Atlanta, get ready to brawl
Atlanta are you ready to brawl
Houston, get ready to brawl
Houston are you ready to brawl
New York, get ready to brawl
New York are you ready to brawl
London, get ready to brawl
London are you ready to brawl
Capetown, get ready to brawl
Capetown are you ready to brawl
Tokyo, get ready to brawl
Tokyo are you ready to brawl
You can learn a lot from a botha.
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The_King, I know Aikido, Judo, Kyokushin Karate & Muai Thai.
You’ve forgotten “of” in there.
Like: “I know of Aikido…”. You should stick to World of Warcraf as role playing goes. Or roll back your imagination a bit, to sound at least plausibly credible.
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“The outstanding problems are Islamophobia and insufficiently controlled immigration. ”
Islamophobia is a problem purely of Muslim making.
Purge the Wahhabist/Salafist elements from your ranks instead of whining about “Islamophobia” and the problem goes away. Until then Americans will rightly suspect that Islam = Shariah and your eventual goal is theocracy in the US.
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”””””’Original JB
“End chronic discriminatory practices against African Americans. This is fully in keeping with the rules America itself has set forth, equal justice for all. ”
Somebody needs to take this man’s temperature.
“Chronic discriminatory practices” against non-NAM are a perfect way to describe AA.
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Yea like my sister she did everything right grades extracuricular could spell. ap classes aced. almost perfect sat. Only one problem I would imagine getting into ivy she wasn’t the right minority.
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Bhetti, Outstanding issue Islamophobia?
You mean an irrational fear of Islam? Where?
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@XXX
“Indeed, the Canadian rock band Rush wrote a song called “the tall trees” about how equality always necessitated cutting down the tallest trees in the forest so that they wouldn’t force the shorter flunky trees to struggle in the shade.”
Actually the song is called “The Trees” off the album Hemispheres:
There is unrest in the forest,
There is trouble with the trees,
For the maples want more sunlight
And the oaks ignore their please.
The trouble with the maples,
(And they’re quite convinced they’re right)
They say the oaks are just too lofty
And they grab up all the light.
But the oaks can’t help their feelings
If they like the way they’re made.
And they wonder why the maples
Can’t be happy in their shade.
There is trouble in the forest,
And the creatures all have fled,
As the maples scream “Oppression!”
And the oaks just shake their heads
So the maples formed a union
And demanded equal rights.
“The oaks are just too greedy;
We will make them give us light.”
Now there’s no more oak oppression,
For they passed a noble law,
And the trees are all kept equal
By hatchet, axe, and saw.
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chic noirbuttox,
Since you have been eager to detox my buttox again after just a few short days, I will lower the fee you pay from $5000 to $3000. The fee still includes the royalties that permit you to use the suffix of ‘buttox’ after your name.
So you can continue to call yourself chic noirbuttox, even with this reduced fee.
Now, at dusk, it will be your privilege to….
(…wait for it, wait for it….)
Detox my Buttox.
Now quit talksin’ and start Detoxin’…
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Hello Bhetti,
Longtime no hear. Replies below:
B: There are no race issues to solve in the West, besides the open antipathy generated towards Islam and the groups that get flack as a side effect of that.
O: Wrong, and since we both share a common language to an extent, yet are literally an ocean away, my direct firsthand experience trumps yours in this area, Muslimah. With all due respect.
By the way, I live a stone’s throw from NYC and was there right before the so-called Ground Zero Mosque issue exploded onto the front pages. What happened to Mr. Sharif is only the tip of the iceberg. But please do not get it twisted, race still remains a very contentious issue.
B: There are no race issues in the Western world especially for black people. Their music is venerated, they are cast as sex objects in music, there is a black president (mulatto or not, that’s what people consider him) and one successful black man per show is some sort of quota.
O: None of which addresses rampant police brutality (Oscar Grant, etc et al.), or the surpime mortage crisis and the practices that were engaged in to the detriment of Black folk, or what went down and is continuing to go down in New Orleans (BP, anyone?), etc, et al. Again, with all due respect, you don’t know what you’re talking about.
Oh, and Obama? If it’s one thing he’s done, it’s that his very presence in the White House drives a goodly number of White folk batty. For example, gun sales have gone through the roof since he took office.
B: Black people have affirmative action in America and the support of various groups that automatically assume discrimination.
O: No, Black folk have the support of some groups who have worked hard to ascertain that they are treated fairly. As for affirmative action, it is under constant assault from the likes of your pen pal/electronic paramour. In no way is it something that is a settled matter.
B: A problem for some blacks seems to be a class issue at the moment, and an internal subculture that is defeating the community.
O: No, wrong. Most African Americans are at the least working class, if not middle class. Please see Mary Pattillo for more on these and related points, an expert on Black social class issues out of Northwestern U.
B: There’s a distinct tendency towards criminality that noone can deny. This tendency is even celeberated and romanticised in the music business.
O: Yes, just like organized crime is celebrated and romanticized in Hollywood-ever heard of The Sorpranos? Or the Johnny Depp film, Dillinger? Or Scarface-both versions? How about this one, Bhetti-The Godfather?
Hmm?
B: That’s not to say it’s exclusive to blacks. It seems to be a vicious circle in low socioeconomic groups, with a larger tendency in blacks both because of subculture and apparently higher testosterone levels.
O: Nope, no higher. Just a weebit different. Again: study your American history. The St. Valentine’s Day massacre remains one of the most grisly organized crime murders ever recorded.
B: I’m not sure if it’s a transatlantic phenomenon but a positive thing is the strong church support that some blacks have, and a determination to make something out of themselves. I’ve seen that in action too.
O: The church, both Black and White, is hand over fist stronger here than in your native(? I assume you were born there) UK.
B: Seriously, how can we even pretend race is much of an issue in a world of equal opportunities, political correctness and endless other measures?
O: Please see my earlier comments above. You need to study American society more.
B: The outstanding problems are Islamophobia and insufficiently controlled immigration.
O: Which reminds me, ever read a very interesting book called Londonistan?
B: In the real world, even these do not generate any problems at the moment. That is, no real problems unless we count some governmental measures in various Western nations placing increasing restrictions and monitoring on muslims. However, the undercurrents are there.
O: Again, see Mr. Sharif, NYC cabbie who almost had his head cut off.
B: A dark storm may possibly be on the horizons if these issues remain unresolved. How much blood will there be in the tsunami unleashed by the rage of a discontented populace?
O: Quite a bit, by the looks of things here.
Parting shot: there are more Black Muslims in America than anyone else of Islamic faith.
Holla back
O.
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greg: Obsidian is really an annoying one, isn’t he?
His arguments have this looping quality, always arriving at this unstated notion that “equality” means “equality of outcome” regardless of natural disparity.
Hey, I’m sorry only a handful of percent of blacks have an IQ above 110. It would be a lot easier for everyone involved if that wasn’t the case. Do I care that typical Indian immigrants to the US have dark skin? No, they’re smart and productive.
Let’s make 100 IQ blacks engineers, surgeons, prosecutors, accountants, etc. That won’t effect our quality of life whatsoever. No sirree. We’ll have “equality.”
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GasButtox,
Which scent will you be requesting for your procedure? You have alluded to a dissatisfaction with lavender essence in the past. Inexperienced, I would consider your recommendations as authority.
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Again, see Mr. Sharif, NYC cabbie who almost had his head cut off.
bhetti and mu, what happened to the cab driver was unfortunate. but it was a one off accident.
How many muslims were killed in Iraq this past week via suicide bombers and the like vs the number of muslims killed last week in NYC because they’re muslim?
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Happy to see that obsidian’s still having a blast being black. Maybe Sailer was right about that after all.
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“Yeah, I think the Obsidian act is pretty tired. At his best Obsidian is somewhere between Ricky Raw on the serious side and vk on the fun side. Both vk and Ricky Raw at least try to give advice white guys can use but I’m not sure if Obsidian does the same.”
O: I don’t because Roissy nor anyone else does the same in reverse. Why that should be a problem is beyond me. Why it should be a problem for you is…well, your problem.
“Obviously the goal of most guys on this site is to date white women, and Roissy’s argument is the standard deviation of beauty in Estonia is uncommonly low. Nothing too controversial about that, and no need to polarize the forum.”
O: The forum by its very nature and design, is polarized and polemical. What you guys want is to be able to have a treehouse where you can just say what you want without critique or challenge. Too bad, that ain’t how the realworld works. I merely asked some simple questions, to which I’ve either gotten personal attacks, excuses or completely off topic crap in response.
Why oh why, am I not surprised?
O.
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It is absurd to say that America is Islamophobic when a Mosque at Ground Zero is actually being discussed.
If America was actually Islamophobic, we might even occasionally hear of hate crimes against Muslims in America, at least equal in number to the number of attempted terror plots by Muslims (Times Square, Detroit pants, Fort Hood, etc.)
It is amazing how tolerant America is of Islam, all things considered.
The biggest Islamophobes are Muslims themselves, since they are too afraid to have an honest discussion of the many flaws of Islam, instead projecting their dysfunction onto others. They are also too afraid to confront their own extremists, who are giving all of Islam a poor reputation.
In fact, the existence of Barack Obama as President shows both Obsidian and Bhetti to be frauds. A black President with a name of ‘Hussein’. Yeah, that sounds like an anti-black, Islamophobic country.
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original JB Do I care that typical Indian immigrants to the US have dark skin? No, they’re smart and productive.
Wait until Bobby Jindal become presdient and his co-ethnics start marrying your women.
You won’t be so easy on them anymore 😉
I’m not sure “bhetti” is really bhetti 😦
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lozlzl at muslims making themselves into the new niggers of the narcissus here
how many muslim countries are there? 45? give me a fucking break
black ppl may be really fuckin annoying but they are AMERICAN and this is their home since the were brought and stranded here and turned into a unique american ethnicity here–they have at least a tiny defensible claim on our sensibilities.
muslims?
nah
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””””Bhetti
There are no race issues to solve in the West
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Well for you no because you benefit but like for instance my sister yea there are definite issues.
I mean really if I wouldn’t have gotten accepted to good school I could have understood because I didn’t have a perfect grade point average. I just had the sat score to get into almost any school but my sister had it all plus about 400 points higher than me on sat.
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Anon2,
“Hussein” is indeed a common name in the Islamic world, however, President Obama isn’t a Muslim. So your point…really…failed.
It isn’t possible for Muslims to be Islamophobes for not conducting openly public discussions about the fractures/fissures within Islam itself, anymore that it wouldn’t be possible for Catholics to be anti-themselves for flatout refusing to deal publicly or otherwise with their longstanding Priest Pedophilia problems.
Yes?
Grampa,
I think it should be up to Black folk as to what they consider important or not. If or when they want you or anyone else’s input on the matter, I’m sure they know where you are.
Lastly, the term “African American” fits most African Americans just fine. For those from elsewhere who wish to be referred to something else, I’m sure you two ca work that out. 🙂
See, that wasn’t so hard, was it?
O.
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Obsidian,
Yes?
No.
Two wrongs don’t make a right, and using that as an excuse to avoid addressing the vastly greater wrongs of Islam, is weak.
When Catholics hijack planes, behead people, etc., then your point would have a leg top stand on.
Oh…. and if there is one religion much more pedophilic than Catholicism, is it Islam.
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dana –they have at least a tiny defensible claim on our sensibilities.
😦
sadly the same can’t be said of you since you came on your own and much much later.
obs It isn’t possible for Muslims to be Islamophobes for not conducting openly public discussions about the fractures/fissures within Islam itself, anymore that it wouldn’t be possible for Catholics to be anti-themselves for flatout refusing to deal publicly or otherwise with their longstanding Priest Pedophilia problems
Why should muslims who aren’t terriots answer for those who are? Why should whites who aren’t racist answer for those who are? Why should blks who aren’t criminals have to answer for those who are?
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And I had the highest sat in my school. But like black dudes from that school got accepted to good schools. Are you starting to see a patern in life in the west yet?
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guns And I had the highest sat in my school. But like black dudes from that school got accepted to good schools.
it was the interview that did you in buddy. should of written that essay instead 🙂
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”””’Original JB
greg: Obsidian is really an annoying one, isn’t he?
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He pleads the best case for exterminating all blacks I have ever seen.
I told him before he was like the black reverse hitler lol
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Gunslinger,
I’m curious so I’ll ask:
What do you or your sister, consider to be “good schools”? Could you give me some names, please? From the sound of it, it wasn’t like she couldn’t go to any school at all, just not those of her choice, a completely different matter, and not an unusual one either. Indeed, many pupils are rejected from schools all the time.
Thanks in advance.
O.
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– Haha, I like Dana’s crafty use of a Conrad novel title.
– Good to see Obsidian full-out flexin. It’s like the glory days of last year’s Great Race Threads.
– Obsidian, several commenters have answered your “why don’t you move to Estonia” question. So why are you still asking it? If you’re disresprctful of other commentes, the shit they sling back at you is just desserts. Are you like this in real life too?
– The editor’s response to Bhetti’s surprising assertion was excellent.
– Ryder’s comment early in this thread was sublime.
– We need more Wrestling clips. Llolllzz Cannon and Tupac.
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Here is a classic clip. lol at the pre-modern lighting and production. Good times
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how exactly is Islam a “problem”? You have correctly identified the phenomena responsible for the major problems of the West on numerous occasions: the “Four Horsemen”, feminist indoctrination, the welfare state, the disappearance of slut-shaming mechanisms etc. Islam didn’t cause any of that. And how exactly is it “degenerate” and “primitive”? Care to elaborate? Is it primitive because Sharia prescribes strict punishment for immoral behavior? I hope you, among all people, aren’t going to give me the usual BS about Islam “oppressing women”. Anyone who reads your blog for a while will easily come to the conclusion that it is necessary to restrain female behavior since it becomes destructive and dysfunctional when given free reign.
And what “Western values and lifestyle” is it incompatible with exactly? If you mean that it is incompatible with the types of behavior that accelerate the West’s decline and degeneration (sluttiness, spinsterhood, the hook-up culture), then it’s true but I surely don’t see anything wrong with that. If you mean that the tribal customs of supposedly devout Muslim peoples like the Pashtun, the Somalis and the Sudanese Arabs are barbaric, then that’s a fair point. But tribal customs have nothing to do with Islam.
Obviously people like you couldn’t pump and dump anyone if Sharia was introduced, but that’s a rather weak argument for Islam being “degenerate”. Islam isn’t degenerate, it is the types of behavior that the current feminist system permits and encourages that are degenerate. The virus that infects the modern West is feminism and left-wing liberalism, not Islam. Feminism, left-wing liberalism and political correctness need to be utterly destroyed, not Islam.
Islam as a religion is not a threat, if anything, it is a solution to the problems of Western peoples. It is certainly a good alternative to the current feminazi Hell.
Original JB,
Sharia is Islamic law. That it equals Islam is a fact, not a suspicion. Then again, I don’t see what’s wrong with Sharia.
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act I got a perfect score on writing.
Obviously it didn’t matter so therefore I write like this lol
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Anon2,
Catholics have already done things much worse then beheadings and hijackings.
[Editor: That was then, this is now.
Anyhow, in the long history of religion-inspired beheadings I’m sure Islam notches a higher choppity chop score than Catholicism.]
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Anon2,
You assert that Islam has a greater problem with pedophilia than the Catholic Church, but you didn’t offer any evidence with which to back up such a claim. Please do?
I think the fact that Iraq’s been a veritable bloodbath for some seven years, Muslim fighting Muslim, belies any charge by you or anyone else that there isn’t any internal struggles with Islam itself. Just a cursory study of the history of Islam reveals deep divides and often violent clashes over the centuries in this regard.
Holla back, you seem like a relatively intelligent, informed guy/gal.
Although, looks can be deceiving…
😉
O.
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It’s funny that you think black people had anything to do with that.
Black undergraduates are EIGHT PERCENT of Harvard’s undergraduate population. Now, so what?
Your sister was guilty of being white trash. SMART white trash. You know, and I know, that is a threat to the privileged and they dam well TAKE CARE OF threats.
Dancing blacks like Obama on the other hand are useful tools.
You sister-Threat
Obama-Useful tool
Now, why do you think they would pick themselves first, Obama second, and never your sister? Is it because they like the dancing black, or because the dancing black can never PRETEND TO BE LIKE HIS BETTERS. He is black, they are white. Thus, the distinction between trash and Betters is maintained.
Hey, at least Bhetti can be trusted to have no innate loyalty to the white people she is given control of by her white masters. Also, of course, she can never make the transition to Betters.
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lol. AA’s not enough? Food stamps and welfare aren’t enough? Reverse redlining isn’t enough? A black president and AG aren’t enough? Should we start showering the various Sowetos around the country with benjamins from C-130s?
Also, since blacks are literally the worst employees on planet Earth, why aren’t we allowed to discriminate against them in hiring if we want? Hiring blacks is like asking for an EEO suit at work, or an assault, or an endless list of excuses and grievances.
Is this the only scholar who can vouch for you guys? “WELL, HEY, THIS MARY PATILLO BROAD SAYS WE’RE DOING OK!” *ignores the mountain of other studies that say the opposite*
Winning spelling bees does not make you an intallektshual, Obsidian. Sorry. Neither does your third-rate humanities degree from AA-U.
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How can anyone have a problem with pedophilia?
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on August 29, 2010 at 5:02 pm gunslingergregi
Like me one day I will actually go to somalia and actually get some somali hot ass.
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Somali women are some of the hottest anywhere.
They also don’t seem to age.
Unfortunately, that nations lack of a stable government and its Islamic culture make it a no-go for my purposes.
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Well, whaddya know. Gotta agree 100% with Hollenhund on his comments wrt Islam. Who knew?
PRCalDude,
And your ad hom bromides count as legitimate, intellectual discourse?!?
O.
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Eritreans tend to look good as well.
Theres something about that area, with its predominately African genetics, with a touch of Arab and a smidgeon of Italian that makes a nice mix.
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oh my fucking god he STILL doesn’t know what an ad hominem argument is??
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Wrestling clips
I can’t believe so many of you can watch that stuff. I prefer to watch the real deal wrestling. what nice bodies these men have.
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dana oh my fucking god he STILL doesn’t know what an ad hominem argument is??
there’s a special place in hell for women like you.
gunslingergregi
Like me one day I will actually go to somalia and actually get some somali hot ass.
give up trying, cause it will never happen.
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Oh my freaking god, she still doesn’t know what Hip Hop is???
O.
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”””””””Jay Gould
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on August 29, 2010 at 5:02 pm gunslingergregi
Like me one day I will actually go to somalia and actually get some somali hot ass.
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Somali women are some of the hottest anywhere.
They also don’t seem to age.
Unfortunately, that nations lack of a stable government and its Islamic culture make it a no-go for my purposes.
”””””””’
Exactly the spoils will go to the bold.
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PA,
You asked me, why am I still asking the question when I’ve gotten several answers?
Answer: because I’m not satisfied with said answers.
[Editor: In other words, you will ignore any answer that doesn’t placate your ego.]
That’s why.
It makes no sense to drone on and on about fat American Women and so on, and then on the other hand drool and slober all over the Eastern European Women, WITHOUT ACTUALLY DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
The “answers” I got in reply to my question were in truth, just excuses, reasons NOT to do anything. That’s not Game; that’s lame.
Jay Gould,
Don’t sleep on West Africa, bruh. Lots of very nice looking Women from Senegal, Mali, Nigeria and Ghana, just to name a few. I’ve seen quite a few myself.
O.
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The funny thing is that the group that seems to have noticed the value of Eastern European women the most is Chinese men. They are emigrating to the Russian Far East en masse, occupying most of the difficult jobs and marrying Russian women – most of whom actually consider them attractive because they work hard, aren’t alcoholics and they don’t beat their wives.
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Exactly the spoils will go to the bold.
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Its really unfortunate too. As a dark-skinned black man, I would blend in quite easily with the local population. Maybe I need to do a scouting expedition and see what I can pick up and take with me.
I just don’t want to live there.
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””””””””’Obviously people like you couldn’t pump and dump anyone if Sharia was introduced, but that’s a rather weak argument for Islam being “degenerate”. Islam isn’t degenerate, it is the types of behavior that the current feminist system permits and encourages that are degenerate. The virus that infects the modern West is feminism and left-wing liberalism, not Islam. Feminism, left-wing liberalism and political correctness need to be utterly destroyed, not Islam.
Islam as a religion is not a threat, if anything, it is a solution to the problems of Western peoples. It is certainly a good alternative to the current feminazi Hell.
””””””””””’
You can pump and dump it is just that you better not pump and dump virgins. The divorced woman are ok to have fun with. But yea you right it will cure what ails us I think.
The christians are made weak in current environment.
There thing is turn the other cheak.
Right now we need eye for an eye.
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Obsidian,
“The “answers” I got in reply to my question were in truth, just excuses, reasons NOT to do anything.”
Explanation != justification/endorsement/excuse
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In other words, I will ignore any answer that is incongruent (read: BULLSHIT).
[Editor: Do you know what the word incongruent means?]
So, when you putting together a trip for the fellas to Estonia?
[Plenty of travel agents can arrange that for them.]
If you want, I imagine you can get in touch with Style for tips on how to do that.
[Where is Style living now?
You really are a knucklehead, Ob. Nothing in this post was a declaration for American men to emigrate to Estonia. It was, instead, a light-hearted post highlighting the high per capita beauty of the Baltics and suggesting that a trip there would be a playground for aspiring PUAs on the make for notches. Personally, I’m doing quite fine with the American ladies, so I don’t feel any need at the moment to permanently move to East Europe. However, if and when the day arrives that the supply of hot American chicks completely dries up, I’ll consider the EE option and send you a postcard from there. It will be signed,
“Greetings from Tallinn,
megafauna free and svelte in color, shape, size and texture”!]
I look forward to the field reports!
[No you won’t. Not enough junk in the trunk of those Estonian girls for your… ample… taste.]
O.
[O fuck me for bothering.]
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”””””””””Jay Gould
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Exactly the spoils will go to the bold.
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Its really unfortunate too. As a dark-skinned black man, I would blend in quite easily with the local population. Maybe I need to do a scouting expedition and see what I can pick up and take with me.
I just don’t want to live there.
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Yea my buddy who is dark black and old moved there lol
Started a taxi company and shit. he he he
Mechanic all his life though so still pretty tough.
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Somali women are some of the hottest anywhere.
They have nice bodies and often exquisite facial structures. But this Ice Person requires pink to light-brown nipples.
The “answers” I got in reply to my question were in truth, just excuses, reasons NOT to do anything.
Obsidian, do you see any solutions that do not involve moving to another country? Changing someting you don’t like about your own country is a valid solution, don’t you think?
At least one commenter gave you a serious answer that “bitching” on blogs is part of a larger movement to change the culture and influence our women to look more like Estonain ones. Does that answer satisfy you?
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””””””””give up trying, cause it will never happen.”””””
Well that is where you are wrong.
It is exactly after I give up trying that I will have the money to go there and many other places.
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I got to hit bosnia first though cause that fucking dude is gonna pay me back with some hot cousins or some shit.
Especially since dude gonna be retired soon and I pushed him to keep going when he wanted to quit.
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@Morsellaux
I could state my belt color in each discipline.
However, I doubt you would know anything about it old man & probably accuse me of trying too hard.
But I know exactly what you are, you are just attaching a old man picture, so you look pretentious? You aren’t fooling anyone.
It’s really funny to me that you would be the first to make a personal attack, since you try so hard to pass off as a old gentleman with conservative values. Or did making fun of Aoefe strike a cord in you?
E-ONETIS LOL ROFL. I DNT PLAY WOW F@G OR VGAMES LIKE U NEWBCAKE!
You really don’t want to mess with a mad hatter. Do you?
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””””cornershop
Just got back from Estonia a couple of weeks ago. The women are crazy hot, and they hobble along the roughest cobblestone in the old city in fuck me heels, god bless em. The Esto girls all speak perfect english; the russian girls generally have english that ranges from good to fluent, though fluency is a safe assumption. The split is about 60/40 Esto / Russian, but the Russian girls are generally hotter, tho the Esto women are a grade or two above the west, or Finland and Holland, the other countries I spent a lot of time in. The native language is Estonian and is incomprehensible to a lot of the UN / Business crowd I ran with – these are people fluent in at minimum five languages. They didn’t bother with it since English is so widely spoken, even deep in the countryside. Great country, if you are looking for women its sweet though I would like to travel east to St. Petersburg or south to Riga, Latvia, where I suspect it’s much the same. The Esto’s don’t care much for the russians and vice versa, since the Russians were shit to them in the war (they much preferred the nazis) and during the cold war they forced relocated Russians to Estonia by the thousands to expand their power on the ground. Of course the russians got all the land and power and tortured and killed all the dissidents, so you can really feel a simmering tension between the two, and land disputes are common to this day as russian granddaughter is relieved of property her granddad seized fifty years ago etc.
on August 29, 2010 at 3:45 am cornershop
BTW I’d live there permanently in a heartbeat if I were allowed to work there. It’s absolutely fantastic in the summer, you just need to line up some girls to keep you warm for the long and brutal winters. And get used to pickled herring for breakfast.
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We got an expert on everything got to love this blog.
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@Gunslingergregi
Don’t worry Gun, all the black folks here are mad cuz their local KFC store ran out of orange and purple pop.
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@ Jay Gould,
Yes, hell yes, on Somali, Eritrean, & Ethiopian women being some of the hottest anywhere.
Sweet fucking too. Oh yeah.
[Thank you God.]
@ Chic Noir,
Agreed on the physiques of those real wrestlers.
A body built for honest athletic effectiveness & efficiency has a certain kind of beauty not seen in physiques built mostly for reasons of vanity or insecurity.
Bruce Lee was a great example of this.
[He coulda been huge like ‘Bolo’ in Enter the Dragon if he had wanted to be.]
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Obsidian is just upset because he is black, hell black people are so angry all the time because they are black. You guys made a big mistake, never argue with black people. Just ignore them.
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Jay Gould,
Don’t sleep on West Africa, bruh. Lots of very nice looking Women from Senegal, Mali, Nigeria and Ghana, just to name a few. I’ve seen quite a few myself.
O.
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I’m not sleeping on that area.
Ghana is actually a responsibly governed country and is English-speaking.
So that would be an option.
I’m not sure about the women there being any more attractive and in shape than here though.
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Sorry, it’s frustrating but don’t have time to follow up on what I said. I will simply confess that I deliberately made outrageous, provoking statements to turn the subject to something I found more interesting.
Morseullax, I am dissapointed you did not outline a manifesto on your views on Islam and the West.
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””””””The_King
I could state my belt color in each discipline.
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I can believe the diferent disciplines. Money can do a lot for a kid especially when you actually spend it on the kid and not yourself. I was on tap to be expert in everything but then no money and moved to hood where my role models were my peers who were robbing people for quarters and shit.
I mean shit I had the laundry list of diferent lessons of everything you can imagine when we had money. Gonna try to do that for my son but also include practical shit as well.
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lazy guy A body built for honest athletic effectiveness & efficiency has a certain kind of beauty not seen in physiques built mostly for reasons of vanity or insecurity.
excellent point and I agree 100%. I though I was the only one who thinks like that.
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I deliberately made outrageous, provoking statements to turn the subject to something I found more interesting
SRS question: do Epic Race Threads scare off the girls, bore them… or fascinate them?
Is it boooooring for girls like watching WWE wrestling, annoying like speed metal, or kinda tingly in a “let’s you and him fight” sort of way?
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show me a hoodrat who spends the 7g’s she gets for the kids on the kids growth and activities.
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Hell show me any single mom who does that?
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Gunslinger, if you could teach a boy anything about fighting, just teach him two things: to not be afraid of getting hit in the face, and wrestling. The first one is free. The second one too, at least if most American high schools still have wrestling programs.
Even if he sucks at it and doesn’t make varsity, the skills will be invaluable and he’ll have an edge over 99% of men in his adult life, should he ever get into a real fight.
All one-on-one fights come down to falling on the ground and grappling. Fancy martial arts are good ONLY at first-strike / block scenarios. They are also good at teaching you how to maneuver aganst multiple opponents.
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I wanted to be a gymnast but it was apparent that I was going to be very tall even at 6 years old.
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PA, you can answer your own question.
How many women post during those types of threads?
women don’t like that sort of thing. killing and hatred is a male thing.
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Well, Obsidian does kind of have a point.
All this whining about American woman really is starting to sound like sour grapes. If the guys on here really hated the women in the USA, then they would be on the first plane to Estonia, even if just for a visit.
Also, I have already refuted the lie that “America doesn’t have any hot women.” Anyone who can say this with a straight face has never set foot on a large state college/university campus in the USA. There a plenty of hot women in the USA, they just happen to be college girls.
Now, if you are too old to pick up college girls in the USA, then maybe a trip to Estonia is in order (or anywhere where young women don’t generally find older men creepy).
However, the whining is pointless.
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Höllenhund, Then again, I don’t see what’s wrong with Sharia.
3 major issues:
1. Hotel California. You can check in but you can’t check out. The punishment for apostasy is death. One may object that it does not seem to be so at present in many islamic countries, but with the wahabi/salafi as sunni go and mahdists as shia go gaining an upper hand, it is a matter of time of re-establishing this in a full force.
2. Blasphemy. Even a slight criticism of the interpretation of Koran that does not mesh with the prevalent creed may bring a death fatwa on your head. Not only that, but it is an excellent vehicle for sociopaths to settle scores. Of course that was in the past applicable to muslims only (or other faiths that are allowed to exist within muslim territory). Now it is being expanded onto a non-muslim territory.
2. Totalitarian social configuration. Islam is a socio-political system masquerading as religion. It was a good racket for Mohammed, but it is getting a bit stale after 14 centuries.
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http://www.costhelper.com/cost/fitness/martial-arts-classes.html
””””””””””””’Sessions for children costs 20 to 50 percent less than adult classes, and rates are usually set on a sliding scale based on a child’s age. Classes for ages 3 to 12 average $30 to $45 per month, and those for teenagers up to 18 average ””””””””””””
So we are talking 2160 a year to get your kid into 4 diferent disciplines.
But lets say you changed it up every 3 months at three classes a week just 540 a year.
Well within the budget of a middle class family.
But yea I am thinking wrestling and boxing for knockout power for my kid. Slam someone on concrete they get hurt.
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””””””Da Truth””””’
You are definetly losing the truthiness lol
You haven’t noticed the shitload of guys going oversees he he he
Did you not read cornershop who went to estonia?
You need to work on that.
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Can I squeeze in an off-topic “death of the west” comment? These guys are apparently crack for modern tween girls (infamous 11-year old “Jessi Slaughter” claims she slept with the lead singer):
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””””If the guys on here really hated the women in the USA”””
It ain’t the woman in the us that made me refuse to marry one before. It is the laws.
Have you not been listening?
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Allthough when you go oversees you do notice that woman really can almost be equal to men when they are not coddled.
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Anyway…
PA, as I’ve told Chateau himself, I just do not see how a bunch of disaffected White guys complaining on a blog about the state of American White Women changes things. If you do, please point me to some objective measures that have shown improvement in this regard?
For example: has the constant drumbeat of whining, bitching and moaning actually caused Womens’ weights to go down? Made them more to you guys liking in any way? After what, three years?
You tell me.
O.
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“It ain’t the woman in the us that made me refuse to marry one before. It is the laws.
Have you not been listening?”
Who said anything about marriage? You don’t have to get married in the USA if you don’t want to.
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“You are definetly losing the truthiness lol
You haven’t noticed the shitload of guys going oversees he he he
Did you not read cornershop who went to estonia?
You need to work on that.”
Good for them and good for cornershop.
Still doesn’t explain the whining though.
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LOL @ whining.
When it changes to action the world will know.
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@Gunslingergregi
So true, I wished my parents made me take five other languages and forced me to play violin & rugby.
There is a reason why private education and college is reserved for the affluent, they want high quality individuals. Meaning a one that have resources and skills.
Children should be looked as an investment, everything you put in will sometime in the future benefit.
Didn’t know you were black, glad to see positive representation. I was losing hope with Nicole and chic noir. But then again, they are vaginas.
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so just to be clear
an entire race of people in the us insist the us is treating them in a UNIQUELY unfair and evil way–if you tell THEM to go to africa you are a racist
a few guys sitting and bullshitting on the internet cholesh over some pretty foreign chicks and they should pack up and leave IMMEDIATELY or they are whiney losers
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o wants whites to care enough to put him out of misery.
He might get wish see beck rally.
People getting tired of turning the other cheek.
But like I said before western medicine slightly better than developing nation medicine. That should be a serious leading indicator that the world is about to change.
So all this will be moot.
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Cannon’s Cannon :
Which scent will you be requesting for your procedure? You have alluded to a dissatisfaction with lavender essence in the past. Inexperienced, I would consider your recommendations as authority.
They are all good, but for the late summer season we are in, Rose, Nordic Mist, or Cherry Blossom are all good choices. Lavender is good in May/June, but not August/Sept.
chic noirbuttox is doing some good research in this area, and will give you good information if you ask her a few times. Don’t give up if her busy schedule prevents a prompt response the first few times.
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“When it changes to action the world will know.”
How is it going to change to action? Whining on Roissy’s blog doesn’t really do anything.
It is better to talk about solutions. A better blog post would be one that detailed how to get a long-term visa in Estonia or how difficult it is for an American to get a job in Estonia or the cost of living in Estonia or etc…
That way, if guys really are fed up with American women, they will have the knowledge to “jump ship.”
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O: “If the Estonian/Russian/East European gals are the bomb as much as Roissy & Co., say, then why don’t they/you MOVE?”
Why should we move? The same anti-whites that have destroyed so many of our lands would simply follow us, and destroy what few remaining pockets exist. We’ve been doing various forms of “white flight” for generations now. Non-whites inevitably follow wherever whites move, whether on the local or national level.
The solution for whites is to reclaim our lands, not retreat. No team can win if all it plays is defense, while the other team always plays offense. We’ve been running for way too long, and more and more people are realizing that it just doesn’t work.
I also find it amusing that the “why don’t you move” question is never asked of the Left. Just a couple of generations ago, they faced a traditional America, an America that they hated. Why didn’t they just move? Certainly there were plenty of non-white, Marxist states that they could have gone to. Of course they didn’t do that. They instead were determined to destroy the America in front of them, and replace it with the ugly cesspool that we see today.
The anti-whites aren’t interested in fair play. They aren’t interested in live and let live. Instead, they are interested in wrecking white societies wherever they may be. Move and they will follow. No people are more insulted than whites for their “evil racism,” yet we see that non-whites of all stripes pour into white lands like a tidal wave, or more accurately a swarm of locusts.
However could this be?
We’re evil…but you have to move next door to us…but we’re evil. LOL!! We’re so oppressive that we are the only people on earth expected to become tiny minorities in our own lands. Black countries aren’t expected to do that. Asian countries aren’t expected to do that. Just white countries, and only white countries.
I thought normal people ran AWAY from oppressors, not towards them. Silly me. Lies about oppression out of their mouths, while moving ever closer with their feet. I guess it’s a nice racket if you can pull it off.
So telling us to “just move” does’t quite do the trick. It’s just another way of saying, “Surrender now, and we’ll be around to mop up the rest later.” No thanks.
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Put it like this.
Yesterday I went shopping and saw a remote control helicopter that was made in china that was freaking amazing. I mean boggled the mind.
Had two propellers on top of each other and it flew but didn’t just fly but flew like to the exacting standards of a video game. I have never seen anything like it. I mean up down sideways diagnal freaking like some kind of futuristic flying saucer in the air doing some crazy accrobatics. It cost 20 dollars.
It was the size of my hand.
They had versions as big as a 19 inch tv.
Shit is about to change.
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The_King
I could state my belt color in each discipline.
Yeah, do so, to satisfy my curiosity. I remember you stating that you are 22/23, so it is easy to gauge if you are pulling a leg.
But I know exactly what you are, you are just attaching a old man picture, so you look pretentious? You aren’t fooling anyone.
LOL! I damn wish I was 35 years younger. But it is what it is and I can’t turn the clock back. Actually, the picture is 4 years old. Time creeps on ya.
It’s really funny to me that you would be the first to make a personal attack,
It was not an attack. Rather a pleading to be honest. You sometimes sound (or read as it were) that you are trying too hard — while now projecting that on me.
since you try so hard to pass off as a old gentleman with conservative values.
As I said, I am not the youngest kiddo on the block. I don’t have to pass off as anything, it is what it is by default. And I take an offense at the “gentleman”. That is a low ad hominem if there is any! LOL!
Or did making fun of Aoefe strike a cord in you?
Not sure, ahm… what you’re talking about. Did I make a fun of her, or did you? If the later, be my guest and make as much fun as it pleases you, she is an adult, I suppose, so she can probably take it. And if not, her problem.
I DNT PLAY WOW F@G OR VGAMES
Well then, good for ya, there are many people in your age group that have nothing better to do.
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So, just to be clear:
When a bunch of White guys gather at the call of the forum’s founder, to whine, bitch and moan about the ills of American Women, while at the same time saying that Women from the Eastern bloc are better in every way, YES, they should take their behinds over there posthaste. With the quickness. Scotty, a truckload to beam up.
On the other hand, bringing up Black folks in America, has absolutely nothing to do with it.
So, to recap:
Dana don’t know jack about Hip Hop
Or what a non-sequitur is either
O.
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All you American women haters are loser beta chumps that don’t get laid after the first date. You are also commy traitors, do us all a favor and leave. No one misses you. True patriots fight the good fight at home.
American women are great, cold, materialistic and thus down to fuck. I think there is nothing better for one night stand material than American lawyer women. Give me the tanned, waxed blonde bimbo with fake ass tits over a homely Latina with a giant bush and stretch marks.
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lol king I am white dude.
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@Gunslingergregi
Haha good, I can keep ripping on monkeys then, they still don’t have any positive representation here.
Who ate all the watermelons? Nicole is that you?
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The thing was able to stop on dime and hover.
Like a dragonfly really so I guess I have seen it before but more accrobatics.
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@Morsellaux
I see, my mistake. I respect my elders.
Aikido: Blue
Judo: Purple
Kyokushin Karate: Red
Muai Thai: White 😛 Just started.
Trying too hard? Interesting, I’ll take a note.
Good Aoefe & Nicole bores me, so let us move on.
True, I never understood the fascination with video games, watching sports & porn.
Cigar, sky diving & traveling is more fulfilling.
So what do you plan to gain here? You should be running the class no?
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Where talking like for 20 dollars you could give the army guys one of these each and explore any crevice of a building around corners over ridges everywhere.
Use it as a forward observer in any situation and it was fast as fuck.
This could already be used in place of soldiers.
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I do like video games king because it is future war and this fucking helicopter was the first thing I have seen that responded at the speed of a video game. No lag time instant fucking response. Thinking about it now really holy fuck worthy. Shit changed.
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Holy fucking shit.
Man insane.
You could use these in iraq and afganistan like a motherfucker.
They charge on electric just plug em in. Add a gun upgrade and you can protect whole outer areas of bases with a group of these fuckers on patrol. Fuck.
Someone get me to pentagon lol
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Right now got the remote controlled fixed wing but nowhere near capability of the helicopter and way more cost.
I think I just came.
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Use it as a forward observer in any situation and it was fast as fuck. // This could already be used in place of soldiers.
Heh, sawed-off shotguns and claymore mines would make a big comeback to fight those little flying thingies.
Leaf-blowers too!
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Chateau—
This is WAY over the top, whichever Chateau writer you are. There are versions of Islam such as the fanatical Wahabbi version that are objectionable yeah. The real problem is in the later thing you said: self-loathing leftist apologists. Western intellectuals should criticize some aspects of some versions of Islam, and some practitioners of Islam without vilifying the whole religion. It’s also folly to let in potentially swamping numbers in many European cities of low skilled immigrants from any background but particularly if a great many of them have something vital in common to be a united and angry large and fast growing minority within the Euro country in question.
Bhetti lives and goes to med school in London and was talking from a Euro perspective on Islamophobia, not an American one. She also agrees that Western countries allow too much low skilled mass immigration. And abhors terrorism in the name of Islam.
@gunslinger—
Britain doesn’t do affirmative action so far as she or I know.
@Anon2
First you’re a contemptible chicken shit to be posting under an anonymous name, that isn’t consistently identifiable as the same voice at least for purposes of this forum.
I agree. In some ways too much so, of the more extreme sides of it. See the first bit I wrote above. The answer is rarely at the extremes. Nor is it found by averaging the extremes. But it is found in some sort of golden mean.
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so you defend fuckin’ islam now?
jesus christ
last one out of america please shut off the lights
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GTFO!!!!!!!!
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figure they could make workable killing version for a 100 bucks.
How many can be built for a billion dollars he he he
That is correct 10,000,000
10 fucking million.
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I am gonna go buy the big one and attach a bb gun.
Can you get a camera with bluetooth to go to a cellphone?
Or do cameras have bluetooth or whatever?
Morsellaux
Any thought on camera on the helicopter and best way to do it?
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The_King
Aikido: Blue
Judo: Purple
Kyokushin Karate: Red
Muai Thai: White 😛 Just started.
OK that sounds plausible. You did not waste much time
People usually do one to an advanced degree and then try another. But if you are able to synthesize them together for a real-life situations, my hat’s off to you.
True, I never understood the fascination with video games, watching sports & porn.
Porn, as long as it does not become a substitute may be educational.
So what do you plan to gain here? You should be running the class no?
Well, I came to a point where a LTR may be better for my time management. After a while, the investment for STRs seems to be a bit eating into other activities. I don’t want to marry (that would mean I am becoming senile, a sure sign!), just a nice VLTR, that’s all.
Now, I came to a conclusion that if I go for it, I would not go for less than 25 years age distance, which would place the target at about 31 yo. However, 30 years distance would be even better (a juicier, tighter 26 yo wench).
So, I am here gathering the ammo to pull it off. I am not a rich guy, nor particularly good looking, rather very average as my picture attests. So, I would rely entirely on the game as the vehicle. Makes sense?
As for running class, yea, once I get what I want, I am sure that I would be able to provide some insights.
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Obsidian–
Who gives a shite? Almost all of the long time regulars here who aren’t black are plenty sick of you. Your mask as fallen off, black nationalist full of racial animus.
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Moving regions and objects can be detected by comparing the WTs of the current image … Stationary pixels in the video are the pixels of the background scene because the … As it can be seen from (3), the higher the parameter c, ….. of 28×16 pixels in a typical surveillance camera capturing 720×576 size images. …
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Oh yea, am a male chauvinist pig, so she HAS to be at least 7, but my initial target would be 8. If I can’t for some reason get that, 7 is the default lowest grade.
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Need to hire those guys.
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Doug1, in fact he comes off as a racialist anus. loololozzz
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Gun, bluetooth’s possible but won’t give you much range. Let me take a raincheck on that, I’ll ask around… I am sure pentagon has the networking angle worked out on prototypes that are of a similar size.
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Yea don’t be too sure on the mass production capability.
They produce limited quantities not blitzkrieg level quantities.
Also on cost I am looking at dudes talking bout building uav for 9k.
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I am seeing how to do it professionally but I just want the unprofessional let me take pot shots at rats in the rice field version with a flashlight attached.
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Obsidian’s whining theme is total crap.
Black activists make a living out of bitching and complaining. So do feminist activists.
Obsidian is full bitching and moaning on his own blog about how how much more America should be doing for blacks, especially black men, and most of all black guys like him who couldn’t concentrate enough in school or care enough about it to go to college. Naturally he blames “dumb white female teachers” who “couldn’t or wouldn’t answer his penetrating questions”, but rather stuck pretty much to the curriculum. And now he even bitches about how too many black girls who did don’t want to date or marry blue collar black guys like him, at his blog. And brow beats the sistas there who fit that profile about this endlessly.
His issues are crap issues but have the backing more or less of the PC media left. Though he claims to be not really on the left. (Well in a sense that’s right, he’s a black nationalist, not a PC universalist.)
Most social change begins by attacking what’s wrong. What this blog does aside from teach game is attack feminism and preach gender realism. Once you realize how full of crap cultural Marxist equalist ideology is in these areas, you tend to be open to scientific information undergirding race realism.
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Like I said the human game is passed.
There is the future king if you want in on it.
You will also be on the spearhead of the end of warfare as it has been known.
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I was the one in the field when they first tested uav’s lol
That was the field experiment when we ran out of oil.
I was there at the beginning he he he
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””””I am sure pentagon has the networking angle worked out on prototypes that are of a similar size.”””””’
””””””””9000 total built abrams.
As of 2009[update] the USAF operates 5,573 manned aircraft in service (3,990 USAF; 1,213 Air National Guard; and 370 Air Force Reserve);[4] approximately 180 unmanned combat air vehicles, 2,130 air-launched cruise missiles,[5] and 450 intercontinental ballistic missiles.
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I am not impressed at all.
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Gun, depends what is the minimum range you can live with. If it is a reasonable figure, it may scale well for a mass production using something that is already available.
Bluetooth Class 1 (~100m) v 1.2 (1Mbits) would be relatively cheap. You could extend the range with transceivers (say 4-10 ts chips mounted on a mini dragonflys). Theoretically, you could use up to 10 ts to reach 900m.
1Mbits won’t provide a spectacular imaging res output, a bit choppy, but may be good enough for any type and size of a rat.
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The only way we have been whipping ass is that nobody been shooting down our planes and missiles. When they become obsolete conventional unconventional game on.
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Yea I am imagining a 10k a day over a period of a year blizkrieg type style that would be impossible to defend.
Or you know at 10 million for a billion could go higher if you have a trillion to spend.
I mean once the other side runs out of bullets then you know not gonna be losing any vehicles anyway.
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oh doug you whine like a feminist too.
waaaaaa child support = stealth alimony (let’s ignore the fact that you have no children and plan to never have children)
waaaaaa there’s no male birth control pill (aren’t you impotent by now?)
waaaaaa feminism caused me to not have children (well who’s the winner now)
waaaaaa alpha males can’t all have harems (if even ONE man had a hard harem, doug, that would be enough to cause society to become unstable)
waaaaaa alphas should be able to play around during LTR’s/marriage (let’s ignore the fact that maybe your wife is at home with your fictional child, and you’re out playing around)
waaaaaa someone posted under an anonymous handle (let’s ignore the fact that “Anon2” is as legit a handle as is “Doug1”)
waaaaaa everyone who disagrees with me is a feminist harridan!
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When I read posts like this, I keep reminding myself “race doesn’t matter, race doesn’t matter.”
Not much diversity, or multiculturalism there. One might say the women there look “aryan”.
Of course, we’re all members of the one, the only, human race so obviously they don’t have superior genetics.
Why didn’t you say Sudan or Cameroon?
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1,000,000,000,000
1,000 1,000,000,000
365
2,739,726
So even at a thousand a piece could send out almost 3 million a day for a year for a trillion dollars.
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Anonymous
You’re damn right you cowardly little bitch that I want to roll back most or all of what feminism has done re: laws or social conditioning since about 1969.
But of course you’re too dim to have comprehended that what I was saying to Obsidian/Mu-Min black nationalist NOI member (often picked up by black males during a long prison stay), is that most social change is begun by anger and complaint about what’s wrong with the way things are.
Any notion that men shouldn’t do that, or white men shouldn’t, it utter crap. It’s usually the trope of feminists, who almost always fight with snark and emotional attack.
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I’d say first hundred waves could be hard programmed like an old atari cartridge. Then followin I guess don’t even need gamers just motion detecting versions set loose like boomerang’s.
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Anon2, Anonymous, etc.
And no using a variant of Anonymous especially for one thread only is indeed chicken shite and not remotely equivalent to using the same pseudonym for a whole long time on a blog, and even between blogs.
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Actually with 2.7 million targets a day probably not gonna take more than a month.
But yea just intersperse the motion detecting ones.
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Gun, you have a spare $1 trillion? Then go for teh fun. lolololzzz
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100 yards would be fine for my current use.
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china does he he he
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dude you are the king of emotional attacks. it’s amazing that you are still here — that you haven’t blown a gasket (or sixteen) with all your emotional outbursts.
i’m glad you’re so fucking stupid that you can’t even see my point had NOTHING TO DO WITH FEMINISM and everythign to do with YOU BEING A WHINY LITTLE BITCH.
suck it
p.s. i’m not the same as Anon2, just calling you out because you’re a bitch and it’s fun to poke ya.
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aNON–
Factless blather.
Cowardly little anonymous bitch.
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plus i love how you want to “roll back feminism” to the days that you think once existed e.g. where super alpha men such as yourself managed to have wondrous sexytime with harems of hotties.
dude, let’s not kid ourselves. you and i both know that the reason your “harem” consists of a real girl, a fling, and some online personality is because YOU OLD.
didn’t you even admit once that you can’t fuck for more than two hours?
i think it was something like, “if a girl needs an hour or more i would say fuck this and move on,” which i take to mean that your little blue pill don’t work all that well.
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Ryu, Not much diversity, or multiculturalism there.
You must be fucking kidding, right? This is not huffpo! Go get yer dose of multicult elsewhere!
Mind boggles…
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oh please. i remember your little interaction with an audrey where you just went batshit over her asking a question. i’m not anonymouse BITCH, i have a handle and it’s right here.
don’t get into name-calling with me, ya’ll won’t be winnin.
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dougi dougi dougi
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gunslinger —
i think he likes to be called “dougie”
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Do people even have a clue how close to the end we are lol
The technology is basically there he he he
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Gun, china does
LOL! Yea, thought you’d mention that. Just don’t see them lending it so you can then destroy them. lololozzz
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look how much your cellphone can do and it costs what?
he he he
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“Wait until Bobby Jindal become presdient and his co-ethnics start marrying your women.
You won’t be so easy on them anymore ;)”
I’d vote for Jindal in a heartbeat. He has an IQ above 140 yet doesn’t seem to be afflicted by the elitist “clever silly” syndrome which consists of (a) unjustified belief that smart people can successfully manage the economy through massive interference (b) an attitude of contempt towards “bitter gunclingers”, “NASCAR fans”, “Christers” and other culturally unfashionable types and (c) actually seems to be interested in PERFORMING day-to-day duties of his office.
As far as intermarriage, I suspect that (any biotech solutions aside) the world is moving towards two races: the high-IQ white-Asian mix and the low-IQ white-black mix. So perhaps that is inevitable.
My future descendants may look like brother and sister on Firefly. I can live with that.
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””””’Morsellaux
Gun, china does
LOL! Yea, thought you’d mention that. Just don’t see them lending it so you can then destroy them. lololozzz
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As long as they give me a couple thousand virgins I am good.
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Or hell even if they blow the back of head off even better he he he
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Yo yo yo, you all be racist.
I’ve decided to build the mosque actually on top of the graves of the 9/11 victims. That doesn’t offend any of you does it?
Well guys, gotta go! Trees to be climbed and all that.
O
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aNON–
Obs/Mu-Min is in his early 40s and not much younger than I am. But yeah I’m a good lot older than most on this board. As I’ve said from the get go here. Some have got me beat on that.
As for my “harem”, yeah I think it’s pretty great, especially since they’re all real hot, smart, high status and are much younger than me. It’s just what I want. And all I want these days. Sure I had different priorities in high school, college, law school (didn’t practice as a BigLaw lawyer long, moved to greener fields) and again after my childless divorce for awhile.
So yes, I’m largely settled down now. I should apologize for that? I’m not foolishly remarrying. I think Roissy is at least temporarily settled down himself now. I think my version of settled down, with considerable permissions required by me from the get go before cohabiting, from my live together hot ist/2nd generation northern Italian girlfriend are pretty great.
But think what you will.
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BTW, I’ve told Bhetti that I think the attempt by some Muslim group to build or recommission a fairly tall building (14 stories IIRC) as a mosque within 2 blocks of the World Trade Center site is offensive and overreaching. She agreed.
However I also said that if Muslims want to build a spectacular mosque somewhere else in Manhattan, they should of course be permitted to do so. I speak as a Manhattan resident.
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Morsellaux my new dad lol
My other one broke.
Used to come up with an invention a day he would disect down to utilization potential. he he he
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Doug don’t ya know. Your supposed to throw this out when shit happens.
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of course it is, dougie.
i may or may not be around to read it. we’ll see.
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With the current IMPLOSION of the non-religions populations (Western & Eastern European white population, US white population, and Japanese population)
…The future will belong to the fastest growing religion ISLAM, all others ain’t growing fast enough or its members don’t value having kids & families.
Remember when Darwin talks about a species “being fit” he refers to “reproduce fitness”. Western civilization began to loose its reproductive strength since 1968.
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Of course everyone knows
I give a fuck so much I’ll murder you all
Just to calm this world down to a crawl
Stick a two by four up a ceos ass to let the world know
White boys ain’t your bitch no more
Tired of being nice
Tired of running shit
for money when life is so fucking funny.
I care so much I’ll kill you fucks just to cease pain
So nobody has to worry bout the thinking brain.
I care about motherfuckers trying to work against a system
you learn is bull
Then get old
crap and shit and eventually drool
wondering what happened is this the land
of the one the only free man.
Well hell no this shit is whacked when
the minorities broke the contract
Got to fucking say they had a chance
now it is time to stop the romance.
dad told me but there are good ones see
I am like you got to be kidding
You must have cataracts
the real shit is hard
who the fuck you fooling
acting like shit fair
and it is non righteous anger I am spewing.
Fuck that take the world on
beat it then light up
a smoke
and go
out
hard
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We’re all anonymous, it’s the Internet. Having “anonymous” versus some other meaningless name doesn’t make anyone less anonymous.
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Sold my soul to the devil
3 days ago
Grabbed a ho
broke in her row
Then look oh shit you got to be kidding
that quick
yea allright I’ll do your bidding
the world will be ridding
of the crap we been seeing.
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More likely a white dude.
””””””’ Its just a matter of learning the programming environment and perfecting the algorithms(which I’m looking forward to because I love math).”””””””
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could be asian he he he
Could be half white half asian.
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@anonymous105
We’re all anonymous, it’s the Internet. Having “anonymous” versus some other meaningless name doesn’t make anyone less anonymous.
True. But having other nick than anonymous establishes an identity. If everyone called themselves anonymous or anon or variants thereoff, then the posts would appear to come from one deranged individual.
It is much better when the posts appear to come from many deranged individuals.
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If a person posts under many different names, or anonymously, it means their ego is weak and fragmented.
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aNON~~
i think doug is probably just worried about what will happen in a society where women are given money to play with unregulated under the guise of child support
another one of doug’s themes is that there are a lot of women out there who are looking to trap men by getting pregnant. a male birth control pill would basically make this impossible, and hopefully cut down on the amount of unregulated child support that’s being awarded to women these days.
doug is always talking about how this should only be the case if the man is alpha enough to satisfy the woman’s desire for “hypergamy.” basically, since she is getting what she wants (a higher status guy), why shouldn’t he also get what he wants (a variety of women). doug supports discreet play and always talks about how it is necessary to not embarrass the woman. i’m not sure how doug feels about this when there are small children, though.
he hasn’t called you a feminist harridan yet. just a “cowardly b*tch” 😉
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oooops
great, another bitch who’s halfway up dougie’s asshole.
hint: it’s probably “IF YOU’RE ALPHA ENOUGH IT DON’T MATTER, CRACKA!!!!”
minus the “cracka” because dougie hates black people. let’s all wait with bated breath for him to regale us with a tale of how he once saw a colored girl and found her “moderately attractive, if lacking in the IQ department”
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””””””’It is much better when the posts appear to come from many deranged individuals.
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Yea there are a lot of sick sick bastards on here.
Glad I’m good.
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Cannon’s Cannon :
“Which scent will you be requesting for your procedure? You have alluded to a dissatisfaction with lavender essence in the past. Inexperienced, I would consider your recommendations as authority.”
They are all good, but for the late summer season we are in, Rose, Nordic Mist, or Cherry Blossom are all good choices. Lavender is good in May/June, but not August/Sept.
chic noirbuttox is doing some good research in this area, and will give you good information if you ask her a few times. Don’t give up if her busy schedule prevents a prompt response the first few times.
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Really it is just unintended consequences of the hud babsit a nigger program.
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Morsellaux,
Yes, it does work better for organization and function.
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Just wrote a long comment but it disappeared when it turned out I wasn’t online anymore. I couldn’t write anything over the weekend because I was enjoying life too much in…Eastern Europe.
@PA and other EE insiders are right when they note that the current situation probably won’t last due to the onslaught of American feminism.
US feminists know about the EE female threat and consider it their top priority to conver the enemy to their side.
You are all aware that the US Congress, via laws like VAWA and IMBRA and the new iVAWA, are trying to turn EE women against American men. The new iVAWA will use your tax money to fund feminist organizations in places like Estonia.
I was in Estonia when the Bush appointed US ambassador gave a speech to a nascent feminist group (the Scandinavian feminists are organizing women all over the Baltics teaching them to hate men). He told them “Far be it from us to try to influence lawmaking in other countries, but you really should pass the new law before you that would make it a crime for American men to purchase sex in your country.”
Obama isn’t even 10% as active as the Bush assholes were in trying to get EE countries to become more like evangelical Kansas (Hillary Clinton did a tour of EE this summer and surprised me by not making an anti-male speech about non-existent sex trafficking). Kansas GOP senator Sam Brownback gave a speech on Vatican Radio in January 2007 saying basically “East European women should avoid American men because they are sex tourists up to no good”.
I was glad that the US was crippled by a financiial crisis two years ago. As bad as Obama has been, McCain’s people were basically going to be the anti-sex Bush crowd who were intent on making East Europe into a clone of the American Bible Belt.
Not to mention McCain basically wanted war with Russia – he had zero comprehension about how an Alpha male like Putin would not have backed down to him.
Obsidian asked a valid question. I only wish his dad had grabbed me 30 years ago and said “What the fuck are you doing as a white boy in the US – Move to the Soviet Union or Warsaw Pact countries NOW and have yourself a much better life for the next 30 years.”
Probably the biggest thing I regret in life is not having moved to this part of the world decades sooner.
Someone should have told me that being around beautiful, non-feminist women means everything.
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Basically, both US political parties are fucked up in their ideologies, especially when it comes to how men and women should relate to each other, and should stay the hell out of trying to influence EE and Russian culture (while promoting trade).
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I can imagine Putin sometimes waking up in cold sweat muttering under his breath:”Boy! What have we done?!I hope chicken are not coming home to roost!”,
referring to the NKVD/KGB ideological subversion/demoralization program of which feminism was a part and parcel.
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‘ “In an unarmed fight, I’d still back a younger 5’8″ black brotha from Philly over a middle-aged lawyery white guy, even if he is allegedly 6’3″….
Most people would…..” ‘
This is my problem with our culture. white men are viewed as pussies because most don’t spend every waking moment chasing drugs, robbing 7-elevens, or blowing the welfare check on spinners for their shitty cars. I had to suffer the consequences of this when this “brotha” tried to jack my ipod – I had to put the “brotha” in a blood choke and chew his ear off. It ruined my favorite shirt and an otherwise good saturday night. I’m moving out of this godforsaken country as soon as i can. white guys died in the hundreds of thousands to free blacks from slavery but we still have to send them money in the form of government cheese.
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Jerry, evangelical Kansas is not as feminazied as the SWPL outposts (cities on both left coasts), so not sure what your beef is. In fact, you may still find decent traditional females in the bible belt, though they are becoming increasingly more rare.
Bush was not a true conservative. Quite a social liberal as the domestic platform was concerned.
As for Obamao administration, they don’t need to push the ideological socialism anymore, mission practically accomplished, now is the economical socialism turn.
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””””money in the form of government cheese.””””
Naa man it is money in the form of money. Bitches making more than almost 40 percent of country.
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I find the Orthodox Slavs and Catholic Poles and Lithuanian Catholics to be really cool, just like I admire the American Amish. I tend to date virgins from such communities.
However, one can write a book about the feminization of the US “evangelicals”, starting with the book “I Kissed Dating Goodbye” that was such a rage for 20 years and would have been Laura Bush’s library recommendation.
US evangelicals demonize men and male desire and suggest that male members be “different” as in “be a white knight”.
Bush helped 5000 newly brainwashed Ukrainian Pentecostals immigrate to the south Sacramento area recently and a more screwed up community of young people I’ve rarely seen (I’d sooner take my chances doing PUA in San Francisco).
Young American evangelical women, in my experience, might be OK for men aged 18-29 to get involved with but her family and friends will eventually find out if you are older and lied about your age and, unlike in Eastern Europe, it *will* matter to them that you are not within the same-age range as the girl.
This “Go to Hell if you are over 30” attitude, IMHO, is the most radical feminist concept that poisons life in the USA (for men over 35) even if the American pioneers were already living by the “people should only mate with those their own age” standard 150 years ago in the wild west.
The recent Brad Pitt movie “The Curious Case of Benjamin Button” shows that Americans have always had a stick up their butts about men having to mate only with women their own age (the original short story by F Scott Fitzgerald had Ben marrying a 20 year old when he was 45 while everyone advised the young woman not to marry such an old fart…but, as he reversed in age-appearance, he was soon a great looking 35 year old married to a frumpy 30 year old and then he was a 25 year old married to a 40 year old, etc – The 2009 movie papered over Fitzgerald’s main message which was that American society is illogical when it tells young women not to date older men because men often get better looking as they get older).
Regardless, the best thing about EE and Russia is that women are much, much less inclined to care about how old a man is and, if they find out three months into the relationship that you lied by about 10 years, it won’t mean a thing.
This doesn’t mean EE is a cakewalk for American men. An American PUA here who doesn’t speak the local language is doomed to a higher opening rejection rate than in the USA…and it will hurt more because the women are more beautiful. In the west women are more OK with being spoken to by strangers.
But he will do much better with the women who exchange numbers with him.
There is much less flaking happening over here.
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@masterblaster
Well you can’t believe everything you see on tv.
White men killed the shit out of the iraqi’s and afganistani’s
If we wanted we could kill the shit out of anyone.
and white men on the forefront of future war where we will
be able to exterminate planets population like never before in the history of man cleanly with no casualties on our side.
Be proud white man bitch slap the white woman don’t let her run your shit.
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We keep letting our woman bring us down though and yea asians gonna eat that lunch.
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Chewing someones ear off is some hard shit.
My next fight I was planning on seeing if I could chew someones artery out but I haven’t been in a real fight since I came up with that plan.
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obviously in life or death situation he he he
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At 4:32 in the last video, there is a very gentle-looking nordic girl. She is the epitome of the attraction of the polar-women of the planet and their charms.
She isn’t “badass beautiful”, and there are mathematical irregularities about her face that would prohibit her from being considered a supermodel or even a working glamour model. But men wouldn’t care. Her delicate vunerable femininity and inferred ‘softness’ would make her almost irresistable to the world’s men. Everything about her person in those few short seconds says to a man’s hindbrain things like “loving wife”, “nuturing mother to my children”, “pleasant”, “competent”, “unselfish”, and “warm”.
Snarky remark: A country so far north, that has no record of colonialism or enslavement of others deeply distresses the hindbrain of a certain commenter. You see these are “white” people who are historically blameless and therefore are not supposed to exist in the media-constructed imaginations of the modern Westerner. These are people who have not (as of yet) been guilt-mongered for ethical hiccups in the last 10,000 years of human behavior to simply give up their lands to others from around the world. Their beauty and good behavior (I bet there were no fights, stabbings, shootings, or gang-related activity at this event……….just polite, trusting people being respectful of one another) stand as a stark contrast to civic engagements in much of the rest of the world. One can witness much more modest dress and less narcissistic display in presentation and accoutrement amongst them. 100 years ago, many more in the West had a similar bearing, until the media/educrats really gained a toehold over the culture.
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This could already be used in place of soldiers
Hey Gunslinger – if those little minature helicoper thingies become the next big thing in warfare, I can already see the other side responsing with sawed-off shotguns and perimeter claymores. But the best weapon against them will be … leaf-blowers!
This is my problem with our culture. white men are viewed as pssies
That can be an advantage. In my one serious fight with a blck guy (random assault) I wiped the floor with him. I think it was in part because he had exactly that attitude, and assumed, wrongly, it would be a cakewalk.
Aikido: Blue Judo: Purple Kyokushin Karate: Red Muai Thai: White 😛 Just started
The fancy martial arts are mostly good in first-strike/block situations. After that, EVERY fight ends up with two guys grappling on the ground.
So you really need three things to be able to take care of yourself in a REAL* fight: (1) not be afraid of getting punched in the face. It’s impossible to stress too much what an important psychological advantage that attitude is. (2) when in a life-threatening situation, be ready to fight dirty like car-key jab in the face, biting the neck, etc. (3) basic wrestling skills you pick up in high school wrestling.
(*real fight = a stranger who intends to kill or badly hurt you, not a scuffle with a buddy or a drunk fratboy bar-shoving match)
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I’m going to interrupt the discussion to see if anyone has any suggestions for this situation I’m currently in.
Background: Solid 8 girl (late 20s, 6′, slightly overweight, she must’ve been scorching hot at 21), who I’ve run into a few times at my regular pub, and lately we’ve been chatting more. She’s got a boyfriend. Keyword here, she shows up there rarely/not often.
Anyway, this weekend I was traveling to a nearby city to spend the weekend with some friends, and we talked during Pub Quiz (I have a regular team at said pub), turns out she was going to be in the city too, she plays in an orchestra and they were doing a show there. Anyway, we arrange that she’d text me where it was happening, but as I was traveling with other people I wasn’t sure if I could go.
Fast forward to Sunday, and the other chaps didn’t feel like staying for the afternoon to attend, so we headed back. She had texted me the street where it was happening and that it was a girl’s high school, but that was all. So I texted her:
“Sorry, won’t be able to make it, gonna spend the afternoon at the police station. You owe me a beer for getting me arrested, a creepy older guy running up and down the street looking for a girls only high school was a bit too suspicious!”
I thought it was outrageous enough to make it obvious it was a joke, but when I got home I saw one text from her:
“OMG, r u serious?! :-O”
I found the fact that she didn’t realize it was a joke hilarious. So I just texted back:
“My lawyer rocks, he’s so dodgy he’s got someone else’s name in his business cards! How was the concert?”
And got an _instant_ reply:
“Great! But I’m curious about your story! See you on Wednesday at Quiz?”
…
I need to work on being less verbose. Anyway, I’m just going to poke a bit of fun at her on Wednesday for being gullible, since that was the whole point to begin with, but there’s the second option of spinning an increasingly unbelievable story to see when she finally catches in and have a laugh.
Opinions? Thoughts? Any other plan to contemplate (that doesn’t involve lying through my teeth)?
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”””””””’PA
This could already be used in place of soldiers
Hey Gunslinger – if those little minature helicoper thingies become the next big thing in warfare, I can already see the other side responsing with sawed-off shotguns and perimeter claymores. But the best weapon against them will be … leaf-blowers!
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The 20 dollar version was size of hand they had tv size heavy duty version. But yea I would imagine any size you want so 1000 dollar version gonna be pretty big.
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Islam wouldn’t be even remotely a threat to the west if the Jews hadn’t already eviscerated western culture. A threat that wears its intention on its sleave is no threat at all compard to the one that works from the inside. Islam, pfft. It’s a non-issue. They don’t own the media, Congress, the White House or academia. Being concerned about Islam is like closing the barn door after the cow is out. They’re just low hanging fruit, an easy target to divert the eyes. It’s the Jews, stupid. You know who is in charge by who you are afraid to talk about.
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””””””””That can be an advantage. In my one serious fight with a blck guy (random assault) I wiped the floor with him. I think it was in part because he had exactly that attitude, and assumed, wrongly, it would be a cakewalk.”””””””
Never had 1 black dude try to fight me on the street.
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Islam wouldn’t be even remotely a threat to the west if the Jews hadn’t already eviscerated western culture. A threat that wears its intention on its sleave is no threat at all compard to the one that works from the inside. Islam, pfft. It’s a non-issue. They don’t own the media, Congress, the White House or academia. Being concerned about Islam is like closing the barn door after the cow is out. They’re just low hanging fruit, an easy target to divert the eyes. It’s the Jews, stupid. You know who is in charge by who you are afraid to talk about.
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It is whites not going out hard except in legal ways in war. The problem is there has been a war on american soil for a long time and nobody did shit.
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But yea we just need a new hitler type dude and we be good.
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Think of the opportunity for terrorism strap some bomb material on a helicopter that cost only a couple hundred bucks.
Yea thats right so many uses.
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http://www.thefuckitway.com/
Starting to like indians.
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RMM,
I think she didn’t realize you were joking. Just meet her on Wed. and only if she asks say it was a joke. Don’t explain too much, just tell her not to worry about it and talk about something else.
Women don’t really expect men to be a comedian. We do like it if you have a good sense of humor, but you don’t have to entertain us all the time.
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@ The_king
Why should I e-mail you?
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Gun, hehe, yah, ancient wisdom.
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””””””””PA
This could already be used in place of soldiers
Hey Gunslinger – if those little minature helicoper thingies become the next big thing in warfare, I can already see the other side responsing with sawed-off shotguns and perimeter claymores. But the best weapon against them will be … leaf-blowers!
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Yea really god forbid they have the people in a m113 do something usefull instead of just sitting inside on their asses. lol
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@Ubermind
Since you value privacy and don’t want to share your insight with the masses. I was offering an avenue for discretion.
Forget it, I will do my own research and share it later. I’m thinking Finland, Poland, Russia and then Estonia.
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What’s with the formatting?
Also, there are some awfully unpleasant pukes on this blog.
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Racial epithets in mainstream media? Drunk baboons plague Cape Town’s exclusive suburbs
I support baboons right to get wasted! 😉
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http://www.physorg.com/news202359650.html
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@Gunslingergregi
Yep, the Chinese have lots of sophisticated cheap stuff with lots of military uses.
Now consider the next big war will involve us against them, and they now have lots more manufacturing capability than we do.
Visualize being on the receiving end of swarms of millions of autonomous little flying and crawling robots, each carrying a grenade or anti-armor munition.
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Well, good morning gents & wimps!
Just thought I’d set the record straight insofar as Doug is concerned, post #412.
Here we go:
D: Obsidian’s whining theme is total crap.
O: Nope. My calling you grownassed Men out for being whiners is on point like a MoFo.
D: Black activists make a living out of bitching and complaining. So do feminist activists.
O: Black Activists actually get things done, hence the keyword, “active”. There ain’t a damn thing going on here that’s active. Name it.
D: Obsidian is full bitching and moaning on his own blog about how how much more America should be doing for blacks, especially black men, and most of all black guys like him who couldn’t concentrate enough in school or care enough about it to go to college.
O: Really? Links please?
D: Naturally he blames “dumb white female teachers” who “couldn’t or wouldn’t answer his penetrating questions”, but rather stuck pretty much to the curriculum.
O: Yes, that’s right. I also said that one of the biggest problems plauging the public education system is the oversaturation of WHITE FEMALE TEACHERS who are deadweight. They, and any other incompetent staff needs to be removed, hence the success of the Charter schools, though I have my criticisms of them as well.
D: And now he even bitches about how too many black girls who did don’t want to date or marry blue collar black guys like him, at his blog.
O: Nope, that’s not what I said. Please provide the link/quote where I say this? I’ll wait. 🙂
D: And brow beats the sistas there who fit that profile about this endlessly.
O: Names, please?
D: His issues are crap issues but have the backing more or less of the PC media left.
O: Choice for Men has the backing of the “PC media left”?
D: Though he claims to be not really on the left. (Well in a sense that’s right, he’s a black nationalist, not a PC universalist.)
O: Nope, not a Black Nationalist. More like a Moderate center right kind of guy. 🙂
D: Most social change begins by attacking what’s wrong. What this blog does aside from teach game is attack feminism and preach gender realism. Once you realize how full of crap cultural Marxist equalist ideology is in these areas, you tend to be open to scientific information undergirding race realism.
O: “Race realism” doesn’t have a damn thing to do with the stated purpose of ths blog. Moreover, please name ONE law or public policy that has been changed or came about, as a direct result, not only of this forum, but of the whole of the MRAsphere? I’ll wait. It all can be summed up with one word: WIMPS. The ONLY sector of the Manosphere that actually gets results per its own stated goals and purpose, is the Game/PUA sector, and CR is flirting with hurting that mission when he goes off the Id rails talking about all this other crap that in the end, doesn’t do a darn thing to help all those hapless, beta white males Doug claims to have so much love for.
In case anyone’s interested in knowing what I’ve actually said, in my own words, they are free to see my blog, where there are more than 220 posts since its inception last Oct. Moreover, is anyone wishes to see me school Doug, they can head over to Chuck Ross’ blog and click on his post about CNN and its coverage of Black boys and education.
As per usual, Doug’s weak attempts at argument and debate belies his purported credentials of being a Standford Man. He peddles in personal attack and trades in misinformation. He doesn’t even get the most basic of facts right. And, as someone else has rightly noted, he has a penchant for emotional outbursts. Much like a Woman!
What an irony.
O.
PS: I disagree with Doug’s stance wrt adultery. If a Man is truly Alpha, he need not change horses midstream, or lie about his liking and wanting for variety insofar as sex/Women are concerned. Lying to a Woman you’ve given your word to isn’t Alpha at all, because if your Game is really tight, she will know from the word go what you’re about and still want to be down. As per usual, I know of what I speak, I’ve been on quite a few situations where I openly had two or more Women, all of whom knew each other, without incident. One would often answer the phone for me when the other called, we attended social functions together, etc.
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@Gunslingergregi
The two times I fought with black dudes, it was 4-5 on one. They aren’t interested in white concepts of “fairness”, only in winning.
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I’ve heard that before, black guys don’t fight fair. I know a few white men that have been jumped by a group of them for no apparent reason.
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I stopped reading the comments 1/3 of the way through.
I noticed Obsidian likes to rag on everyone like the fembots do when they try to counter you.
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Obsidian kind of reminds me of LR in how he comments.
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Laura,
Life ain’t fair, if anyone knows this, it’s Black folk and especially Black Men. Did White guys “figh fair” when they lynched Black Men by the thousands? Did they “fight fair” when they burned down churches and burned crosses on lawns? Did they “fight fair” when they shoot unarmed Black Men in the back or in front of their own homes?
Yea, that’s what I thought. To ask the question is to answer it.
On the streets, the ONLY rule, is to WIN. By any means necessary.
Guys like PA, who think they can wrassle their way to victory, or fooling themselves. They can and will be met with gunfire. Most Brothas out on the block are packing heat and will not hesitate to clap you either.
“Honor”. Heh. Tell that to those out on Wall St. Where’s the honor? Where’s the fairness?
Most of all, what’s the color of those calling the shots there?
Out on the streets, there is only one rule: to survive.
Whatever it takes.
O.
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^^^
and you stupid anti racialists think THAT can EVER be appeased
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Accoriding to some historical sources, much of organized violence in the South by whites, especially during Reconstruction, was in response to black violence, which was sometimes comitted with the occupying Union army’s tacit blessing.
But this is a guess and a credible historian’s opinion is necessary here. The guy Michael S. who comments on Mencius seems like he knows his stuff and seems to be neither a crank nor a PC-head.
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of course it was in response to black violence
the north set the black slaves free with absolutely NO thought of what would come after–at all, it gave blacks the vote, forbad it to “democrats” aka, southerners, and put all black state legislatures in place over their former masters in a deliberate act of humiliation. crimes by blacks against whites went without official recourse, and any self help was punished excessively.
be all that as it may
this country has TORN ITSELF apart institution by institution in reparations to blacks. they have gone through the schools, welfare safety net programs, neighborhoods, city governments and now finally the mortgage market like a plague of locusts leaving swathes of destruction in their wake. is it ever enough? no no a thousand times no
and it never will be
until the day white people wake up, don’t feel guilty and start saying “no, we don;t care about you anymore, shut up, go away”
that day is the day obama leaves office
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Out on the streets, there is only one rule: to survive.
How is swarm-kicking a random kid or bicyclist necessary to ‘survive’?
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why are african americans brown PA?
because they are full of shit
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Dana, SHUT THE FUCK UP.
You don’t know what the hell you’re talking about and thus explains very well why your hubbie keeps your haggard ass chained to a stove, naked and in the bent over position for his easy and frequent mounting, which is all you’re really good for. Menfolk are talking. Hush.
PA,
Go back to what I said: was it “fair” for Black Men who didn’t do anything to anyone be terrorized by White Men wearing hoods and sheets? When you answer that question, I’ll answer your fake the funk query.
As for notions of authoritative historical accounts as to what went down during the Jim Crow and Reconstruction eras, please see: WEB DuBois and John Hope Franklin.
Please do not give any quarter to the crackas in our midst.
I certainly won’t.
🙂
O.
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PA, is not, but boy, how that boosts their feeble egos!
“Brothas.”
I have a Nigerian (Christian, so is his name) friend. He is as black as they come. When he came to US (to study), he was appalled what passes for “black culture”. “Black trash” was his summary assessment.
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Obsidian,
Guys like PA, who think they can wrassle their way to victory, or fooling themselves. They can and will be met with gunfire. Most Brothas out on the block are packing heat and will not hesitate to clap you either.
A fight between PA and a black brotha like Obsidian would last about 5 seconds.
Doug1 might last longer, but PA would be shrieking in fear from the mere sight of a brotha.
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lo, white man live in fear of the black man!!!! do not type what he would not cause his eyes to see, do not dare say what he would not cause his ears to hear
don’t go into his neighborhood, he is armed and will kill you
but please–hire him and don’t worry if your neighbor sells his house to him
ty
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Dana trust me, no one in their right mind wants to live anywhere near you. You probably have that smell that old Jewish ladies have anyway.
O.
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Argus is “Anonymous,” who is “Joe”, who in turn is Ricky Raw.
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Although hotties from Estonia is a better topic for conversation; we have been taken down a different path on this thread. A black man seems to be complaining that whites “have the power”. Let’s have a look at what happens when blacks “have the power”.
Let’s have a look at West Point in Liberia. Remember, the ruling class here include the descendents of released American slaves. How many more years until the beaches in LA look like those of Liberia?
Think about the contrast to Estonia while watching!
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ae0_1264118582
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Lynchings: By Year and Race
Year
Whites
Blacks
Total
1882
64
49
113
1883
77
53
130
1884
160
51
211
1885
110
74
184
1886
64
74
138
1887
50
70
120
1888
68
69
137
1889
76
94
170
1890
11
85
96
1891
71
113
184
1892
69
161
230
1893
34
118
152
1894
58
134
192
1895
66
113
179
1896
45
78
123
1897
35
123
158
1898
19
101
120
1899
21
85
106
1900
9
106
115
1901
25
105
130
1902
7
85
92
1903
15
84
99
1904
7
76
83
1905
5
57
62
1906
3
62
65
1907
3
58
61
1908
8
89
97
1909
13
69
82
1910
9
67
76
1911
7
60
67
1912
2
62
64
1913
1
51
52
1914
4
51
55
1915
13
56
69
1916
4
50
54
1917
2
36
38
1918
4
60
64
1919
7
76
83
1920
8
53
61
1921
5
59
64
1922
6
51
57
1923
4
29
33
1924
0
16
16
1925
0
17
17
1926
7
23
30
1927
0
16
16
1928
1
10
11
1929
3
7
10
1930
1
20
21
1931
1
12
13
1932
2
6
8
1933
2
24
26
1934
0
15
15
1935
2
18
20
1936
0
8
8
1937
0
8
8
1938
0
6
6
1939
1
2
3
1940
1
4
5
1941
0
4
4
1942
0
6
6
1943
0
3
3
1944
0
2
2
1945
0
1
1
1946
0
6
6
1947
0
1
1
1948
1
1
2
1949
0
3
3
1950
1
1
2
1951
0
1
1
1952
0
0
0
1953
0
0
0
1954
0
0
0
1955
0
3
3
1956
0
0
0
1957
1
0
1
1958
0
0
0
1959
0
1
1
1960
0
0
0
1961
0
1
1
1962
0
0
0
1963
0
1
1
1964
2
1
3
1965
0
0
0
1966
0
0
0
1967
0
0
0
1968
0
0
0
Total
1,297
3,445
4,742
*Statistics provided by the Archives at Tuskegee
Institute.
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As per usual, White saps like “Just Saying” don’t read for comprehension…assuming of course, they can actually read.
The discussion wasn’t about Liberia, which was created not by African Americans themselves to begin with, but rather, by Whites who wanted to get rid of Blacks after they used and abused them for FREE SLAVE LABOR.
So, that’s non-sequitur number one.
Second, what I asked had nothing to do with “power”, regardless as to the color of those ostensibly wielding it. What I asked had to do with those who constantly whine, moan and complain about how bad American Women are, yet do NOTHING about it, even when they extoll the virtues of Eastern European Women.
To date, all we’ve heard is more wimpassed, limpwristed excuses from White boys who couldn’t cut it in the States. Too bad. They’re clowns and deserve to be shamed into utter silence.
O.
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yes obs thats why jewish neighborhoods have such lowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww property values and bad schools–right? people in philadelphia mortgage their souls to move to neighborhoods where they can send their kids to a public school like “greenburg” and “anne frank”, but run like the wind to get away from “lincoln” and “washington” why??? why!!!?!? RACISTS!!!
loz0zl
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Once again, you know not of what you speak, Jewess.
Philly has ALWAYS had a small Jewish presence population wise, and at present, they might make up, if that a few percentage points in terms of population.
So, right off the bat, and once again, you don’t know what the f*ck you’re talking about.
Now assume the position, it’s time to slap you accross that flat ass of yours with this big black belt…
O.
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Obsidian Wrote: “On the streets, the ONLY rule, is to WIN. By any means necessary.
Guys like PA, who think they can wrassle their way to victory, or fooling themselves. They can and will be met with gunfire. Most Brothas out on the block are packing heat and will not hesitate to clap you either. ”
Oh hell, another keyboard warrior. Another tough guy on the internet.
You’re so ganster behind a computer monitor.
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@Obsidian
I already strongly defended your asking the original question. Yes, those who feel EE women are better should move to EE. Period. End of story.
I greatly regret not moving here at least by 1992 and I really should have moved here in Brezhnev’s time and weathered the Soviet yoke for the sake of all the 10s walking around.
I know I would have had a better sex life than the average to slightly above average one I had in the west (long periods without a date punctuated by 3 month relationships with feminist 9s).
I can’t believe that I flew to Russia for a week in 1995 and had the time of my life…and then FAILED to put two and two together about the DIFFERENCE and just quit my job and just MOVE there at that time. I had a great opportunity a year later when I got a six figure buyout award, but I just invested that – coming out even) and got another California job.
I really don’t know what went on inside my head that caused me to stay in my home country despite direct evidence that things were better elsewhere.
I sometimes think it was because former Soviet bloc air smelled like anthracite coal throughout the 90s.
You had an ally here on that question.
However, you just lost me with the comment that those extolling EE women “can’t cut it in the States” with all the fatties, feminists and anti-older-male families. That is a non-sequitur.
Others should seriously ask themselves why they don’t move to Tallinn with their internationally oriented or Internet businesses.
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GT,
Nope, no need to be a “keyboard warrior”, LOL. Just simply laying out the facts, is all. Brothas tend to pack heat, at least they where I’m from-and if guys like PA think that MMA stuff is gonna get it, they will be sorely mistaken-as the surgeons try to remove the lead from their bodies.
Just sayin.
O.
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obsidian
what point that i made did that refute? what assertion did i make regarding the SIZE OF THE JEWISH POPULATION in philadelphia did i make?
what does the size of the jewish population in philadelphia have to do with ONE thing i said–please explain
btw–“Philadelphia’s Jewish population, the sixth largest in the nation, was estimated at 206,000 in 2001 and almost 300,000 in 2009.[7] ” so 2%
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It’s about time
america’s had a discussion about race
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Oh, so, O, what you are actually saying that brothas = low life thugs. Thank you for explaining.
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One thing that probably kept me in the west was the false idea that the only reason many EE and Russian women were hot for me was because they wanted to come live with me in my American home where I would be working at my American job at an executive American salary.
This was bogus. But game wasn’t conceptualized enough at the time. Newsweek and feminists succeeded in convincing me and many others that it was our US residency and our careers that mattered when we visited the former Soviet bloc.
If I had understood that a) it wasn’t so hard for an American to work in the region for at least a reasonable $3000 per month, b) that this would make one practically a millionaire for most of the 90s and c) that it would actually be MORE attractive to women to be living long term among them…I might have moved in the early 90s instead of early 00s.
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M,
If by that you mean, that merely owning firearms makes one a thug, then I suppose so.
*cut to picture of NRA, Militia, tea Party members*
Dana,
The very act of you, as a subservient female broadmare who’s only purpose is to cook, clean and serve your hubbie old worn out flat ass w/the old Jewish lady smell in the bent over position, opens your mouth, automatically disqualifies you for to be considered seriously in any conversation taking place among Menfolk. Now, go hobble along, you hear?
Jerry,
I’m sorry that what I said upset you, but I will not in any way change it because it’s true at least in part. Just like single (and almost always White and/or Jewish) Women who go the sperm donor route to get kids because the real reason is that they couldn’t give their pussy away, the reason why a lot of (almost always White and/or Jewish) Men get mail order brides/expat to places like Russia is because they have zero Game, are ugly and/or fat/old, and/or are weird in that Autism/Aspergers sort of way. Gotta keep it real, Jerry. Deep down, you this is true.
But yea, we’re shoulder to shoulder on my main point. Keep in touch!
O.
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Here is a black man that speaks the truth:
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very good obs
you finally understand what an ad hominem arguement is
gold star for you!
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O: If by that you mean, that merely owning firearms makes one a thug, then I suppose so.
Without a permit? Yes. That’s correct. But more importantly, it is dependent what it is used for. Thuggery, and that definitely makes one a thug.
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@Obsidian: You’ve got American radical feminism running deep in your veins. Just like so many other “men” who vote for the Democrats.
Deep down you know that’s true.
You need to get with the program – Black men need to start voting against and not for feminist controlled politicians (who throw a bone or two to minorities). If your type of woman is in Brazil, then go there and get more of what you want instead of getting less than that in the States.
If you don’t find white 10s attractive, don’t be calling white guys losers who relocate to places where 10s are seven times more likely to walk by at any given moment than in Cleveland.
You really should have kept your question legitimate instead of sarcastic. There really is no need for good PUAs to “drive Ford Escorts” when they have the skills to “fly to the European manufacturer to buy a Porsche”.
Only older anglo women who feel a need to belittle the competition use the term “mail order bride” pejoratively.
You would be rejected consistently in EE (there are no white guilt liberals) and so would most white men who don’t speak a local language. The idea that the women here are “easy” is wrong. Only 1% consider joining “marriage agencies” and even they are not pushovers unless they’re scamming.
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Wow, thanks Dana! Just think how cool it will be when you get your gold star for finally being able to intelligently discuss Hip Hop history!
M,
The term “thug” means criminal, or those who partake in criminal activity. To that extent, we would then agree, but would you also agre with me, that there is a nexus between Black Men on the street with illegal firearms, and those White Men who sell them said weapons?
At any rate, I was merely speaking in terms of self-defense, which surely, you would not begrudge an American citizen, right? After all, extremism in defense of (one’s) liberty, is no vice, dear sir.
Guys like PA need to really think it over, before they go fucking with a Brotha on the block.
That’s all I’m sayin.
O.
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By the comments you can tell who is ignorant and whose not, whose got to much time on their hands, and who gets laid…..
peace
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O, defense always fine with me. However, when 5 brothas surround one man (white or black) and pull heat to not so politely request his wallet, I have a hard time to call it a defense. Or when they go to a store and think pulling heat is a form of payment for goods, I’d say it looks like a thuggery to me.
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Funny how #s work…a 500+ post does not get read..I have no time for that
As a 42 guy who has banged 15+ EE women; been to Prague in May, banged 4 EE this summer in USA; and one 26 Bulgarian on Sat night 4x, I will comment as an expert:
-Yes EE are super hot.
-Russians are to now be avoided, too much $
-The smaller Baltics are prime
-EE pussies, hips, thighs are elite/model like
-EE in USA = +3 grade of beauty, -3 grade difficulty in PUA
-EE is a drug, cant go back to USA chix
Problem is you CANT live there in EE…unless you want to make $20K. Yes USA, EU companies are there…but they send their married fat guys….they know too.
Even 20 mins outside of Prague it looks like that Hostel movie; just let the Tram pick you up and go to outskirts at 5pm when workers get off….and Babushkas are on.
One post mentions that in USA 20s chick are just as hot….yes, we know this.
But most in our 20s are working hard as shit to have a future career/life….and not become cubicle shlock, or are broke, or are too young to know…and many 20s chicks are banging 40yo rich guys….see my 26yo sat nite date comment above.
SO,………………if your age =
20…bang all the <25 USA pussy…u will never have access
25…marry <25 USA pussy; you will never have that shot
30…bang all the younger USA pussy <27, see EE on vaca
40…focus on EE <25
50…marry EE <30
60…pay for EE pros <25
70…pay for EE pros < 30 till all your $$$ is gone
80…EE kids from pros will take car of you
90+…dead.
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if guys like PA think that MMA stuff is gonna get it
Reading comprehension, Ob. I argued the exact opposite of promoting MMA for street fights
Guys like PA need to really think it over, before they go fucking with a Brotha on the block
I don’t fuck with anybody, on or off the block, so feel free to unflex, Ob. However, one brotha from the block did start something with me and got his ass beat.
As I wrote here before, size being equal, I’d rather fight a black than a white guy. Blacks showboat a lot and make a lot of noise and rely on this to cow the white guy into intimidation. They are quite surprised and unprepared when the white guy calls their bluff.
I also wrote here about a year ago how I got into a road-rage situation with another driver who followd me into a liquor store parking lot. I was sort of nervous about the upcoming confrontation, but felt a genuine relief when I saw that (1) there was only one person in the other car, and (2) he was black, not white.
He glowered at me, I stared him back down, and he dropped his gaze. All was good.
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Jerry,
I’m sorry that my reply elicited the Id Monster defence from you, but again I have to keep it real. Everything you said in reply doesn’t address the issues at hand, which we both agreed were highly legitimate. What I or any other Black Man does in this context, who we do or don’t vote for, etc, is irrelevant.
I was careful to mention the parallels between “Choice Moms” and Men who expat/get mail order brides, and noted that both are, in a real sense and from a evolutionary perspective, losers. Had it not been for modern day interventions in either case, they each would meet an evolutionary deadend.
Please note that I never rendered a personal value judgment either way on either party; personally, I think both have the right to do so. But that doesn’t preclude me from speaking out on the brutal truth of things.
In this forum, of which I’ve been reading almost since its inception, there is a steady drumbeat of how bad American Women are, although by his own admission, the founder of this forum is cool with American Women. Moreover, he and his readers sing the praises of foreign Women. Simple commonsense would then say, what these Men still doin here, then-why don’t they go to where they claim life is better?
The reason “why” is because many of them are losers, and it’s high time somebody said it; and it’s fitting that a Brotha, who is actually moderately center right in his personal political views by the way, did so. Adds spice to the proceedings, as you White boys go off the rails by my daring to say out loud what so many have sensed for so long.
So, you’re welcome to try to deflect the stinging barbs of truth all you wish, Jerry. For what it’s worth, I truly do feel your pain. But adults deal with adult things.
It’s time for far too many Men in this venue, to grow up.
O.
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Also, in fights whites tend to drive their punches forward, blacks tend to swing like their are swatting at you. That’s one reason why I’d rather fight a black than a white, if I had to.
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@The Rational Male: Spot on.
The UK has the ugliest women in Europe as we seem to have caught the PC/entitlement disease, most likely due to our position of global power (allowing memes to travel more easily with the aid of English being lingua franca). Your typical girl in England uses the word “mate” as a form of address. Nauseatingly unfeminine! Other countries, especially in Eastern Europe, have held onto their traditions. Hell, even most of continental Europe is better. A continental 7 or 8 has the approachability of an Anglo-American 5. If you think it’s like being a rockstar, try being an actual rockstar touring those places! By the way, I should probably count Ireland along with the UK, though Ireland is worse than the UK. Display the slightest beta-isms around even an Irish 6 and that’s game over for you – she has become mercilessly austere to your beta ways and taken a disproportional self-esteem booster from it. Kino is much better between myself and continentals, in my experience. Maybe it’s because them meeting an Englishman is a novelty, whereas for the Irish it’s like “oh, you’re from *that* place.”
@Ubermind: “In school I had this classmate girl, she was nice, polite, shy, timid and feminine before she went to study in usa for one year. She returned as a total manipulative PC grrl power bitch.”
Reminds me of an Eddie Murphy sketch:
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@Osidian
Think about it logically. Which of the three would spend a lot of time in a place where the women like those in the above videos are several times more numerous than in DC or NYC:
1) An Alpha
2) A Beta
3) A Gamma
If your answer is 1, then your original question was legit. You seemed to be saying that only Betas would stay where the women are not so great. That’s fine.
If your answer is 2 or 3, which is apparently where your mind is at, explain why an Alpha would deliberately handicap himself by staying where he is.
I believe you think that “game” is really a game, one with rules and outside referees that has to be played against “professionals” which is what you deem American skanks to be. This is the only logic behind thinking that its “cheating” to go where the unprofessional, less ideologically repugnant and better looking women are.
In reality, “game” has no rules and third party referees. A good PUA wants 18 year old virgins or at least 9s and 10s who are not “professionals” expert at shooting down men in bars. While I might say “good game” to a guy who writes about scoring a 25 year old American bar girl who gave him a hard time, I’m not thinking “he was playing the big leagues while I’m off in the minor leagues”.
Only radical feminists would say “It doesn’t count if you bag that young Polish virgin because a real man wouldn’t “exploit” an innocent like that instead of going after older women like us in US bars”.
Bonus question:
Who is most likely to fly to Stuttgart to drive a virgin Porsche off the lot:
1) A Ford Escort driver
2) A Honda driver
3) A Porsche driver
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White Man Can’t Jump
Brothas Can’t Shoot
Nuff said.
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M,
No disagreement with what you said; but I notice you’ve yet to admit the nexus between Black Men with illegal firearms, and the WHITE MEN who sell said arms to them. Often, they do so under the legitimate cover groups like the NRA provides. Gun shows and the like have been documented as having roles to play in such illegal arms winding up on the street known as “straw purchases”.
Would you agree with me then, that such WHITE MEN, are also thugs? Yes or no.
PA,
Interesting that my experience is markedly different from yours. As the Jersey Shore clearly illustrates, White boys wrassle a lot, have very bad form in terms of jabs and punches, and are easily goaded into making moves that cause them to lose the fight. Even an amatuer boxer can mop the floor with them without breaking a sweat, and definitely without being touched. I know, because I have sidestepped quite a few White boys like you and administered a straight jab either to the jaw or temple, and down they go.
Many inner cities are well known for its boxing clubs; Philly is perhaps one of the better known. Please notice that most of these venues are largely predominated by African American Males, who most definitely know the basics of the Sweet Science. Most White boys don’t box, PA. They like to wrassle. Which, simple isn’t allowed when in a toedown with a Brotha.
As for the road rage thing, I can promise you, if you try something like that in North or West Philly, you WILL find yourself, and your car, full of bullet holes. Most Brothas out there in these areas are packing some serious heat and often will stop right in the middle of the street and conduct full on convos with their homies. The wise thing to do in such a case, is to keep your mouth shut and relax. Usually, after ten minutes or so, they’ll move on.
Try that tough guy White boy routine there, and watch yourself get your daily allowance of hot lead.
Don’t say I didn’t warn ya. 😉
O.
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Keep it up Obsidian. Tell everybody how you feel. Tell everybody how the brothas are going to fuck them up. You do a better job of making white folk not like black folk than any Klan guy could ever hope to.
You sure you’re not really a Klan guy pretending to be black?
Regarding the brothas in Philly. They had a nice “beat whitey” day on South Street a few Saturdays ago. That’s doing a good job of convincing more people to get their CCW licenses (Pennsylvania is a “shall issue” state, if you have no criminal record, they MUST issue you the license), and more people to actually carry. It will also give political support to have PA pass its own “stand your ground” law.
You, and others like you, also convince the middle class that electing any further Democrats, and giving any further support for affirmative action, is a bad idea.
Take a bow. Good job, man.
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“So, that’s non-sequitur number one.”
Who are you to call out a non-sequitur? This post is about Estonia and you’ve managed to turn it into a race discussion. I assume you’re just trying to draw site hits from a blog people actually read.
Also, while you edit user comments at your site and ban at the slightest provocation, Roissy tolerates your absurd threadjackings.
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@Silver Fox
Your chart is right on and helps explain why I stayed in the USA until I was 40 because I was doing well enough with the early 20s American women – but even better with EE and Russian exchange students.
But, because an American can earn more than $40K per year in EE and Russia now, I would advise moving here by age 30. The fact of being able to do well with the young feminist women doesn’t make up for the opportunity cost of also doing well with their equivalents and having more time to do that.
@Obsidian
The radical feminist stance you are taking on non-existent “mail order brides” is a topic that is old as the hills on PUA forums.
If you were standing next to a table with hot dogs and hamburgers and I was standing next to a table with salmon steaks and lobsters, you would seriously call me a loser for not scurrying over to scarf a hot dog with you?
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Obsidian, I don’t watch Jersey Shore. I only speak of experience in seeing or being in real fights. Funny thign is, the black guy who attacked me tried to wrestle me down while I was the one punching him all over his head and neck. The one time I lost a serious fight (against a larger than me rednecky white) he pinned me down and punched at my head.
Wrestling occurs pretty much in any one-on-one fight where there isn’t an immediate winner. Even pro boxers start “hugging” each other, which the ref breaks up.
I’m sure Philly has its urban boxing clubs. Good for them. But the majority of youths of any race are gonna be “amateur.” In this case, if it’s one-on-one and free of weapons, you will always see the two gous go down to the ground together.
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I studied abroad in Russia back in the early 90’s. I’ve traveled to Estonia and Latvia. I have no idea how much things have changed, but I found the people to be a bit nicer there than in Moscow and St. Petersburg. If you speak Russian, do not speak it in either of these countries! What I also noticed is that everyone there is crazy tall. And death metal was very popular there.
Winters can be a bit rough there as the sun sets very early and the climate is damp, but I imagine that is precisely when people tend to be a bit more frisky. If you like tall, leggy blondes, it is probably worth a visit.
BTW, the Estonian language is very similar to Finnish and is very difficult to learn in a short amount of time.
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@Obsidian
You are making it embarrassingly obvious why so many of your type vote Democrat.
You have no clue what feminism is and how one of their biggest fears is being devalued enmasse. Your rhetoric tries to pump value into American feminists.
The biggest meme in the feminist playbook is that “foreign women don’t count because you need to play with your *equals* – and men who aren’t losers will date their *equals*”.
You haven’t been reading this blog or any men’s rights blogs if you don’t understand what feminists are up to when they try this kind of rhetoric.
Even if you were to prefer a lower class Philly girl over an educated EE woman, a smart PUA would *still* promote the idea of negging the American women in order to soften them up for home field game.
There isn’t any logic in publicly playing up the women you want.
If EE women were reading this blog and getting arrogant because of the attention, it wouldn’t make sense for this post to have been made. But Roissy made this post knowing it would effect the American blogosphere and 3000 Americans who read the blog every day.
Roissy has noted that playing up foreign women is one of the best ways to lower the inflated perceived value of AW and the inflated value they give themselves.
So, again, even if you prefer American women, it would be foolhardy and Beta to slander all those who don’t in front of a possible audience of American feminists.
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PA,
As per usual, you don’t know anything about American history. How did you ever get a Green Card?
Philly is one of the best known cities when it comes to boxing history. Thousands of boys and young Men learn the art of the sweet science in many of its gyms each year, for decades. The Blue Horizon and many other venues in and around Philly, have become legendary insofar as boxing is concerned. Like I said, it is very common to find an average Brotha knowing how to hold his hands there.
Moreover, I didn’t ask if you watched the Jersey Shore; what I was saying was that the guys there typify White combat methods, which is basically, wrasslin. Which Brothas, at least the ones I know in Philly at least, by and large, don’t do.
Mike C,
Philly has been a Democratic stronghold for more than a half century, with no end in sight. Moreover, Brothas there couldn’t care less what White folk think or do wrt firearm permits. Bottomline, you cross them and you’ll wind up face down in your pool of your own blood, you heard?
And who said anything about getting White folks to like them? It ain’t about “like”, it’s about getting one’s fair share of this society, period. Personally, I couldn’t care less what any White person thinks, and definitel don’t give the sweat off my balls as to what White guys here think.
Jerry,
You have no idea what you’re talking about. Game has very specific rules, do’s and don’t’s to it. Moreover, there is no comparison to be made between myself and any feminist, given that I fully endorse a Man’s right to procure mail order brides, and they don’t. I notice you still haven’t addressed what I’ve actually said, which is sad, but understandable. The truth often hurts.
And finally, the bone headed doctor himself weighs in.
Look here you huge rectal itch, go back and read the second post for comprehension. Read. It. Slowly. In no way was it a “race” post.
And yup, I will continue to erase your presence on my blog, stop being mad that I don’t want your ilk sullying up the place.
Smh…
O.
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As noted before and at some other place:
O is too verbose-
“His reasons are as two
grains of wheat hid in two bushels of chaff: you
shall seek all day ere you find them, and when you
have them, they are not worth the search.”
and sometimes there are no grains.
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IT’S ALL ABOUT THA OBSIDIAN – ALL OBSIDIAN, ALL THE TIME!
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on second thoughts the “sometimes” was an exaggeration.
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@Jerry: “In reality, “game” has no rules and third party referees. A good PUA wants 18 year old virgins or at least 9s and 10s who are not “professionals” expert at shooting down men in bars. While I might say “good game” to a guy who writes about scoring a 25 year old American bar girl who gave him a hard time, I’m not thinking “he was playing the big leagues while I’m off in the minor leagues”.”
Always important to remember. It doesn’t undo any tenets of game but game to an extent is contextual to your social environ e.g. the location, institution, nightclub, etc. Said environs have different gender ratios, age distribution & quality of the pool of females and whatever subcultural quirks there may be. If a man can get a lot of pussy within his social environment, he’s unlikely to lament not being the muscular lothario in the trendy nightclub unless he has to settle for some absolute hambeasts.
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Obsidian–
I’d happily live near Dana but never near you.
Shut the fuck up you dumb ass. Utterly innumerate.
Doesn’t understand the first thing about statistics. And I mean the first thing.
Logic challenged. All observation and rhetoric.
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Black men are often fairly strong, but the toughest men out there are usually white.
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Obsidian–
You’re a black nationalist Nation of Islam, learned in prison most likely despite your lies, black racist full of racial animus towards white men.
And full of class resentment against black women who wen to college. While you didn’t.
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Sorry @Obsidan, but I do know what I’m talking about especially on this subject.
I don’t care if you support the rights of men to date EE women if you’re going to be an asshole and really believe these women are inferior to white Philly women.
And if you are admitting that EE women are better looking, at least for white women whom you aren’t attracted to yourself, than it is insane to say “winners” hang out among the less attractive women.
You are basically saying white is black and black is white (no racist pun intended).
You are saying that “winners” hang out in burned out Philly with crack whores while “losers” hang out in fast growing Moscow where the best looking and best educated women in the world hang out in a fast growing economy.
This is like saying white is black and black is white.
This is what Democrats and Feminists do for a living.
It is feminist to make it look like you’re a winner by wanting to hang out with their constituents (or look for the exceptions in a feminist environment).
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theobsidianfiles
I’m glad PA’s a citizen. You on the other hand ….
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Laura
The actual truth is that most black men are cowardly pussies in any one on one fight if they aren’t packing a weapon they figure their opponent isn’t. Even T Rickey Raw has said this. Comes along with being raised by single moms or something. Whatever it comes from, it’s true.
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Obsidian–
You’ve become a disruptive troll here.
I hope and request that the Chateau bans you.
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Obsidian, it’s clear that you don’t wanna be taken seriously or treated with respect like a man. You want people to see you as a buffoon. Suit yourself.
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Obsidian talking makes it sound like there was a Waffen-SS hiding on the hoods. And that at the first call, brothas would fight with the discipline, vigour and fanaticism of Hitler´s stormtroopers.
If you wanna take a lesson from Haiti is that it is barely impossible for a slave rebellion to succeed. 40 000 whites had to fight 30 000 mulattos and 500 000 thousand blacks and a hostile colonial power, France itself, which sided with blacks until they had burnt the whole country. Much of the complacency of Haitian whites came from the fact that they couldn´t believe France would behave the way it did. The same could also be said from Louis XVI…
In Bolívia (1780s) and Maranhão (1835) (Northern Brazil), we had Indian and Black/Indian uprisings against whites, in which whites were outnumbered 5 to 1. Unlike Haiti, the “Colonial Powers” (the Spanish Viceroy of Gran Peru in Lima and the Regent of Brazil in Rio) sided with whites. Guess what happened.
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Obsidian–
Little itty bitty bantam rooster at 5’8. And according to some sistas at your blog who apparently saw some pics of you, “ok looking”. Big tough little bitty.
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The best thing about Obsidian is that he brought to life the best trolls ever, the anti-Obsidian trolls
It took me several months to stop laughing about the post comparing the shape and texture of African women to the great beasts of Africa
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No, its you and Doug who’ve made utter fools out of yourselves. But this should come as no surprise, since I schooled you both on important aspects of American history recently over at Chuck Ross’ blog.
And I know it burns Doug to no end that I, as a non-college, blue collar Brotha, can consistently score highly educated Sistas who have options. But then, tight Game ill do that for ya.
Take notes.
O.
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dana
Anyone who doesn’t understand how stupid and logic challenged Obsidian actually is, is probably pretty dim themselves.
I’ll grant you he’s pretty articulate. Gift of gab. But THAT’s IT.
Very poor logic skills or understanding. Utterly innumerate. Can’t comprehend statistics at all. Overlapping bell curves completely beyond him. And so on.
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over at Chuck Ross’ blog
Chuck is the most fair-minded and patient blogger I know of, and one of the the most black-friendly ones. And you earned yourself a “STFU, idiot” with him, if you go and check his recent editor comment.
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Obsidian—
All you are is black bullshite.
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everybody knows that whites “ground and pound” and blacks fight like they think it is a mayweather movie audition. hopping up and down, throwing one punch at a time, smiling constantly.
LOL at obsidian’s “but blacks all have guns and will kill you”. yes, they obviously will, regardless of whether they have lost a fisticuffs, been ‘disrespected’, want your Cartier glasses, or simply catch you with one of the stray bullets that they are firing from their gats held sideways. not really much you can do to counter such feral tendencies, but also doesn’t have much to do with who would win in a fight.
obsidian in particular likes his odds in these hypothetical fights because he consulted the stars. no, he didn’t ask denzel and beyonce: he laid down some tarot cards that told him he was gonna win. LOL at a muslim astrologer slash warrior professor.
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@Obsidian
Some ways that make you the equivalent of an American feminist:
1) You vote for the party they control (at least more than they control the other one) and show hostility toward a mostly defeated “white patriarchy” that would prefer that black men ally with other men.
2) You aren’t sexually attracted to white EE 10s and couldn’t imagine why anyone would fly anywhere to date one. I can see Hillary and Nancy Pelosi thinking the same way.
3) You feel no need to neg American women enmasse, to soften them up on a macro scale for being easier to game.
What you can do:
1) Join men in having one political voice that can threaten a given political party. For instance, you can help threaten the Democrats with the loss of the black male vote if they don’t listen to men.
2) Recognize that you probably are sexually attracted to white EE women but you’re just mad that they don’t tend to have white guilt syndrome like the white girls who hang out in downtown Philly seem to have.
3) Learn what negging on a macro scale means. It is insane for a PUA in Philly to let Philly women know he thinks they’re the only deal in town for “winners” even if he really believes this.
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PA, thanks for the Chuck Ross heads up. Just responded to his Id Monster response that I was able to unleash from behind his fake the funk fairness facade.
Also, everyone can see how I schooled both you and Old Man Doug here:
http://glpiggy.wordpress.com/2010/08/18/cnns-double-standard-on-the-educational-race-gap/
Happy reading, suckas! LOL
O.
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Go check out Helsinki, Finland. Hang out in/around Helsinki Central Station for a while. Don’t forget the eye-drops. Also, in some of the outlaying Finnish country towns…
Gah-gah.
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Obsidian —
In any actual white on black race war blacks would be decimated. The only reason you wouldn’t all be killed is due to white liberalism. True.
Blacks make up only 20% of the US military and are mostly in support positions. Leaving aside pilots and such where blacks are rare, even in ground forces blacks make up a tiny percentage of our most elite troops such as Delta Force, Army Rangers/paratroops, and Green Berets. They make up a bit more of our marines but again tend to be heavier in support function on average. Not entirely of course. The point of the spear of the US military is overwhelmingly populated by white guys. Most often by Scots Irish white guys like gunslingergregi.
Blacks probably make up a considerably smaller portion of our police forces.
Whites in red states often have guns. Plenty of whites in blue states are pretty tough. Further more whites can do self discipline and tactics far better than blacks.
Hell if backs are so tough, how is it that from the time the northern armies stopped occupying the South at the end of reconstruction at around 1887, until the 1950s and 60s beginning with Brown vs. the Board of Education of the Warren Supreme Court, and Eisenhower’s decision to send federal troops back into Little Rock and then Mississippi (or was it Alabama) an approximately equal number of whites were so able to keep blacks segregated and subservient generally to whites there?
The only thing that freed blacks from the fate was northern and Western white liberalism, lead by the left liberal media. Martin Luther King was really appealing to this. His method was all about appealing to this. It was LBJ that gave blacks their civil rights, not ML King, despite the leftist crap that’s now taught in schools. Hilary who lived through that era was entirely right about that, and in fact understated it.
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Oh no…Canon done went and drank the koolaid too!
And here I thought you was a Brotha from another Mother, what with your formidable knowledge of Hip Hop and all.
Canon, you more than anyone else here, ought to know the Code of the Streets, son! All that Sherlock Holmes, “I’ll fight you fair and square!” BS is whacked. Out on the bricks, the goal is to win, and get it over with asap. And the quickest way to do that, is with the steel.
So, like I said, White boys like PA can talk a mean game…far from Philly, I might add, LOL. But he, they, and yes, even you, know the deal. You come around spots like North or West Philly, Newark, the Bronx or Brooklyn, Watts or Compton, New Orleans Lower 9th, the Chi, etc et al, talking shit, and you will get yourself in a pine box, with nine shots from their Glocks.
We all know this. So let’s act like we know.
😉
O.
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Happy reading, suckas
Obsidian — you’re pwned. Chuck just responded to you in immediate real-time, and again, you came off the fool.
from behind his fake the funk fairness facade
Nah. He’s for real. He sticks up for black patrons who don’t tip him. He goes off on anti-I.R. commenters and points out that his grandmother’s black second husband helped raise him. He’s all class and for real, you’re just a loud little boy.
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Obsidian–
Nobody likes you here. You never have anything constructive or interesting to say anymore.
You’re a useless troll.
A black nationalist Nation of Islam, Farrakhan following, full of black racial animus, worthless troll.
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As a Canadian of Estonian extraction who has visited the ‘old country’ many times, let me make a few comments about the videos.
As one commenter pointed out the ratio of Esto to Russian girls in Tallin is about 60/40. You can easily tell them apart because the Esto girls are dressed in the height of Scandanavian fashion while the Russian girls tend to go for the cheap tarty look. On the other hand, the Russian girls will definitely be the most friendly and approachable. Esto women (and men too – it’s a national trait) tend to be aloof and standoffish. Estonia is not a place where you make close friends easily.
If the Brits in the second video had any friendly encounters with local girls, it would have been almost certainly with Russians.
On the other hand, the girls in the first video and 99.9% of the girls in the Song Festival video were Estonian. And since the Song Festival is such a large event (300,000 attendees and 30,000 singers in a population of 1.3 million), a lot of the girls you saw on that video would not be from Tallin but had come in from small towns and the countryside for the festival.
An observation is the attitude of Esto women: While the man-hating, greivance mongering feminism of North America is almost completely absent, it doesn’t mean that Esto women are demure and submissive either. There is a tendencey for a lot of them to be strong-willed (or even domineering), but in a practical direction.
Because Estonia is a former soviet country, Estonians as a whole are allergic to political correctness. For instance, the comments and attitudes found in this blog wouldn’t raise too many eyebrows. I suspect, that the attitude towards the pick-up techniques taught here would be that it makes basic common sense for older men to impart their wisdom onto younger men.
The difference between Esto women and Finnish women is that Finnish women drink a lot more and have an unfortunate tendency to shoot (or stab) their husbands. (I exaggerate of course, but there is truth in the previous statement.)
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Obsidian
Old man Doug here
By your own statements 1.5 years ago here you’re in your early 40s now. You’re not that much younger than me.
Blowhard full of bullshite.
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LOL this is like watching an episode of the Boondocks. Are all of your mom’s neighbors pretty pale?
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Chateau–
Please ban Obsidian. He offers nothing of value here anymore and consistently wrecks comment threads.
He’s the worst kind of troll.
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PRCaldude,
Aren’t you out there in LA? If so, when was the last time you were out on Crenshaw Blvd?
PA,
Yea, I saw Chuck’s response and I just replied to that. You might wanna check it.
Doug,
Well, let’s put it to the test: how old are you? I mean a specific number. I say that I’m much more atheletic than you, AND I look a lot younger than my age than you do. Anytime you’re ready, old man…
Oh, and you have no idea what my political or theological views are either, though it’s a hoot watching you sputtering attempting to suss it all out…
LOL
O.
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I like how Obsidian helps himself at the buffet of this non-censoring, free-speech zone, but on his own blog, deletes and edits commenters with whom he disagrees, or harangues them into “staying on topic”, which means rhetorically bullying the commenter into falling right into his line of thinking in order for him to make his dubious points.
We see on this blog that, once again, superior white largesse and commitment to fair play is used against them by the less evolved.
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Obsidian–
You come around spots like North or West Philly, Newark, the Bronx or Brooklyn, Watts or Compton, New Orleans Lower 9th, the Chi, etc et al, talking shit, and you will get yourself in a pine box, with nine shots from their Glocks.
Who the f*ck wants to go to those black cesspools? What of any value is there. Oh right.
But don’t be including all of Brooklyn. Lots of non black ghetto parts of Brooklyn and I’m not just talking Brooklyn Heights by a long shot.
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Yea, I saw Chuck’s response and I just replied to that. You might wanna check it.
I saw it. Bad, really bad. Stop digging.
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i’m going to help obsidian out and put his conjecture into white people’s terms. really, it’s not that unreasonable.
fighting a black is a lot like Pascal’s Wager in its outcomes. you have four possibilities:
1. fight the black man and win, and become a champion of the hood
2. defer to the black man’s dominance and retreat (or fight and lose and walk away)
3. fight and win, but still get shot
4. fight and lose, and still get shot (this might be better than “fight and win” from a legacy standpoint because the mainstream media is less likely to characterize you as a racist when they report on the “random” death)
the most risk-averse strategy is #2, deferring to the black man being god. and even if the odds of fighting and winning are like 2/3’s against a black, it’s still not a viable long term strategy if there is a 5% chance or whatever that you get blasted anyway.
now, others have mentioned why this dichotomy is already changing slowly. feral black behavior encourages more whites to carry guns, so that element will no longer be so exclusive to the brothas. also, gender- and race-based affirmative action will drive more white men up against the wall and blur their natural future time orientations. not a collective movement, but an individual “beta revolution” so to speak.
also, with barack obama as president, more blacks will put away their guns and behave like civilized members of society, even during moments of hot-headedness like fistfights. they will do this because they understand the bounty that white people have bestowed upon them, and believe that in these magical times, they can be anything they want to be. HA!
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@O
I have no desire to post on your idiotic blog. But you are a coward and a hypocrite. And a liar.
Please ban this idiot.
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Here’s what I said over at Chuck Ross’ blog, a little while ago; I defy ANY of you, to actually refute its substance:
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Bullshit, Chuck, and you’re the one who tries to run that fake the funk pseudo intellectual crap line. You’re just mad that unlike the other poor excuses for Black Men in these parts, I actualy challenge your weak and pathetic asses.
You and your ilk crossed the line a long way back, Chuck. Don’t get mad that now I’m stepping right in your chest.
I took the time out to address specific claims in this very post that still haven’t been responded to, by you or Doug or PA. Which indicates to me, that I’ve won the debate.
The entire arc of the (White) Manosphere is one of victimology, woe is me, everybody’s picking on me, the much maligned White Guy-from Sailer, to Half Sigma, to OneSTDV, to Roissy to the Spearhead, and it’s downright sickening, one because that’s no way for grownassed Men to conduct themselves, and two because if yure really all that like you say you are, you would have done somethng by now, and you haven’t.
The bitter truth is, that the whole lot of you are indeed, LOSERS. L. O. S. E. R. S. Read it slowly. I did not stutter or make a typo.
And it shows, that loser label, I mean. How are any of you guys gonna pick up chicks talking like that? Most White gals don’t like racists, opps, I mean “race realists”, and all that jazz you and your ilk routinely pop off with? Please.
Oh, and you should check the Dr. Laura thread at my blog, several of my commenters clean your clock several times over by now.
Smh…pathetic.”
Oh, and Gig, what up Man? How’s that “restoring Brazil to Whiteness” campaign going?
LOL
O.
PS: Dr. G-suck my nuts
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Borrowing from AOR (good blog):
“The situation reminds of the house elves in Harry Potter, only, instead of elves, there are blacks. Something must be done about this horrible injustice. Maybe some students will form an organization like SPEW.”
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Jerry–
It’s all due to very extensive leftist propaganda which disgusts me.
I’ve never remotely had “white guilt” even in my left liberal (though always in a pragmatic and partial sort of way) days.
White guilt is ridiculous. Learn some world history. Real world history.
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is it only me, or anyone else feels Obsidian changed dramatically?
His tone is completely different from the past, he sounds much more agressive, much more bitter. He sounds like the freaks at Stormfront who fantasyze about the coming race war and amuse themselves planning imaginary battles.
I know this is the most common ad hominem attack iin this blog, but… why so much bitterness Obsidian? What happened last week? Da white bank took your house?
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Gig,
Your understanding of Haitian history is seriously suspect. Why am I not surprised.
O.
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how so, Ob?
More and more legislation giving blacks and mulattos the franchise kept pouring from France, in direct confrontation with Haitian whites´ interests. Even if France didn´t produce legislation harming haitian whites, she raised the expectations of non-whites, thus leading to their radicalization every time whites vetoed such moves.
And there were many people in France that openly sided with blacks. Haitian whites´simpathy for the king didn´t gain much friendship among the most radical wings of the revolutionary movement
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Hi Gig, I was just going to say the same about you: why all the aggression, Man? What, Black folk take over your country or something?
Tupac,
So long as folk adhere to some very basic rules when in my house they are more than welcome, but, given that Whites like to divert the conversation off the stated focus and onto their hobby horses, it is necessary to provide the much needed correctives. And so I do. Vigorously.
If you don’t like it, don’t go there. Problem. Solved.
As for my appearance here, I think my earlier questioning has proven its own point.
O.
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Tupac Chopra
Well put and you’re absolutely right.
As well he only uses his “stay on topic” when someone is starting to get the best of him by bringing up related but inconvenient to him facts.
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LOL at this black nerd goon reference. No one cares if you drive down or walk down crenshaw blvd. That area is almost completely Mexican nowadays anyway, and Mexicans don’t feel the need to attack/rob every white dude in sight like you are implying blacks do, RACIST.
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Obsidian–
Gig is absolutely right that Haiti’s slave rebellion was only made possible because of the most radical phases of the French Revolution (which was the largest inspiration for Marxism and Communism).
At a later phase Napoleon did try to win back Haiti as a colony by waging war on it, though he didn’t go himself. Was a bit occupied in Europe at the time. You know the 16 years long Napoleonic wars. The main thing that defeated French forces numbering about 30k IIRC was yellow fever. Which was an African import and which many blacks on Haiti had considerable resistance to.
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For the benefit of all you MMA st33t fighters I recommend you read the following:
www_nononsenseselfdefense_com/MMA_html
Just replace the underscore with a “.” and read way!!
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gig
He’s been unmasked is all. He’s always been like this.
I admit I didn’t see it at first either. But I’ve seen it for a long time, underneath. It’s damn apparent at his own blog for one thing.
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Hi Doug,
You mean, how you reacted to my schooling you on the meaning of the concept of “cool” and where it came from? Those inconvenient facts? They’re still over on the CNN thread at Chuck Ross’ blog. You’re reply was classic!
PRCalDude,
LOL, well, no one’s gonna accuse me of being an expert on LA, since I’ve never lived there. But you know exactly what I mean: you White boys talk a mean game from out in your boonies. Why don’t you go to where the Brothas and SA’s are and talk that same smack, gringo? Let’s see how tough you are then with flame coming outta your ass from getting pumped full of hot lead, LOL!
And Gig, here’s the history of the Haitian Revolution for ya:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haitian_Revolution
Lemme know how that White restoration project of Brazil’s coming along, will ya? 😉
O.
PS: Doug, please read the above link. Your history sucks. Stay your White, old, tired and wrinkled ass in Manhattan, don’t evr cross north of 110th st or veer over onto Bushwick Ave in Brooklyn, or you’re toast.
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Obsidian admires white men, but for some reason he won’t admit it.
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Really Laura? I do?
PROVE IT.
I’ll wait…
O.
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I have a hard time even believing you’re black when you write stuff like this. Did you learn about blackness in the same way Barack Obama did – reading books in some suburban white manse? Also, are you so dumb as to not see that you’re libeling your own race with this talk about how they’re going to shoot at me for the nebulous reasons you give?
I actually haven’t talked “tough” (or whatever) at all on this thread. That’s coming entirely from your side. Like I said, you’re likely just lifted from episodes of the Boondocks.
And it’s “ese” retard.
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Serious question for a second. Do any of you guys read VK’s blog? What do you guys think about him (a black man) banging multiple hot eastern european chicks?
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PRCalDude,
Do you realize how you’re making the White race look, particularly White Males, when you say completely ridiculous and outlandish, uneducated things about Black folk? Do you think that wins you friends or more importantly, Women, doing that? Think about it.
Now, try and follow me…
PA went to the well again with the whole thing about how he can wrassle Brothas down to the ground, they don’t fight fair, etc.
I responded by saying that there’s no such thing as fighting fair, the only thing that matters is that you win the fight by any means necessary.
I then took things a step further by noting what we all know to be true: that Black and Hispanic Men rarely duke it out ala Sherlock Holmes; they settle things with the steel.
That’s all I’m saying.
Any questions?
O.
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Obsidian–
I’ve been to Harlem for various things many time dumb dumb.
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“I like how Obsidian helps himself at the buffet of this non-censoring, free-speech zone, but on his own blog, deletes and edits commenters with whom he disagrees, or harangues them into “staying on topic”, which means rhetorically bullying the commenter into falling right into his line of thinking in order for him to make his dubious points.
We see on this blog that, once again, superior white largesse and commitment to fair play is used against them by the less evolved. ”
Well said.
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[…] I’ll add to the heaping praise that Eastern European women get in the Roissysphere with this video of Russian girls ballroom […]
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Obsidian–
I’ve read wikipedia and other things on Haitian history long before this dumb dumb.
For your wiki link:
For a few months, the island was quiet under Napoleonic rule. But when it became apparent that the French intended to re-establish slavery (because they had done so on Guadeloupe), Dessalines and Pétion switched sides again, in October 1802, and fought against the French. In November Leclerc [Napoleon’s brother-in-law and head of the French expeditionary force to Haiti] died of yellow fever, like much of his army.[5]
Your point was, dumb dumb?
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Laura–
Brilliant.
You’ve further unmasked “Obsidian” just above.
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Laura–
Racial animus towards white men from Obsidian much, do you think?
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you White boys talk a mean game from out in your boonies. Why don’t you go to where the Brothas and SA’s are and talk that same smack, gringo?
this is amazing. when disembodied white internet voices talk about how great it is in Whitopia, obsidian asks why don’t they all go there. when he presumes that these voices are coming from Whitopia, he reminds them that they couldn’t talk about such things if they were in the hood.
obsidian, your position is that there is no acceptable milieu on earth to discuss anything White with positivity.
if you’re in the hood and you say it sucks, you ought to leave or you’re a pathetic beta. if you’re in the sticks and you say it’s great, well, you couldn’t say that in the hood. the only acceptable terms, in your mind, are to both live in the hood and think that it’s great.
but it’s not great for whites, because as you remind us, blacks shoot whites if they do not defer. so, whites must defer, for that is the natural order of things. and this is why you are a black supremacist.
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Uh, yea Doug, and I frequently go to Bensonhurst.
Ookaay…
Now then, to your other utterly ridiculous comments:
D: In any actual white on black race war blacks would be decimated. The only reason you wouldn’t all be killed is due to white liberalism. True.
O: Nope, not true. White folks are scared to death of Black folks and won’t go anywhere near where we are in massive numbers. That includes your cowardly punk old fart ass.
True.
D: Blacks make up only 20% of the US military and are mostly in support positions. Leaving aside pilots and such where blacks are rare, even in ground forces blacks make up a tiny percentage of our most elite troops such as Delta Force, Army Rangers/paratroops, and Green Berets. They make up a bit more of our marines but again tend to be heavier in support function on average. Not entirely of course. The point of the spear of the US military is overwhelmingly populated by white guys. Most often by Scots Irish white guys like gunslingergregi.
O: So what. All that’s needed is basic instruction in how to pull the trigger. Plenty of sandal wearing, inumerate, illiterate Afghan boys barely into their teens are making mincemeat out of the Gunslinger Gregs every day now, for years.
Ever seen Black Hawk Down? Now, don’t get that mixed up with Boyz in the Hood, Doug. We all know your memory ain’t none too sharp in your dotage (recall how you mixed up Denzel/Courtney Vance in the films The Hunt for Red October and The Crimson Tide), LOL!
D: Blacks probably make up a considerably smaller portion of our police forces.
O: Zzzz…go take some Geritol, you old White geezer.
D: Whites in red states often have guns. Plenty of whites in blue states are pretty tough. Further more whites can do self discipline and tactics far better than blacks.
O: Which explains why guys like you are out on Bushwick Ave and Tremont Ave talking bigtime shit in front of the homies’ faces, right?
D: Hell if backs are so tough, how is it that from the time the northern armies stopped occupying the South at the end of reconstruction at around 1887, until the 1950s and 60s beginning with Brown vs. the Board of Education of the Warren Supreme Court, and Eisenhower’s decision to send federal troops back into Little Rock and then Mississippi (or was it Alabama) an approximately equal number of whites were so able to keep blacks segregated and subservient generally to whites there?
O: Because they had inordinate access to guns and the full backing of the State to suppress, terrorize and marginalize Black folk. But that was then, and this is now, you old coot-assed cracka. If you show your wrinkly bald head anywhere near Bushwick Ave, it’ll get blown off.
D: The only thing that freed blacks from the fate was northern and Western white liberalism, lead by the left liberal media. Martin Luther King was really appealing to this. His method was all about appealing to this. It was LBJ that gave blacks their civil rights, not ML King, despite the leftist crap that’s now taught in schools. Hilary who lived through that era was entirely right about that, and in fact understated it.
O: And why she’s now…Sec’y of State, UNDER BARACK OBAMA.
How’d that work out for her?
Also: please note that the 1964 presidential elections saw LBJ win in a landslide against Barry Goldwater, who only carried, aside from his own homestate of AZ, basically four or five states of the Old South. Hmm.
LOL!
O.
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Obsidian,
In my observation more intelligent, middle class blacks like yourself tend to look up to white people. Instead of just admitting it and going on with your life, you have decided to obsess about it and have developed a major inferiority complex as far as white men are concerned.
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Stay your White, old, tired and wrinkled ass in Manhattan, don’t evr cross north of 110th st or veer over onto Bushwick Ave in Brooklyn, or you’re toast.
Not enough hot chicks there to motivate me to go anyway.
I know why Ob is so angry. Given that he is a black dwarf, he resents his lack of representation in Snow White´s story. Seven dwarves and not a single black one??
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Wow, O is losing it! This is right up there with LRs meltdown a while back.
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Fruits of AA right there. All it does is produce gov worker drones who do meaningless makework and have in the backs of their minds that they were charity cases in college – that they were never quite on the same level as those who got by on merit – thus their current state of employment. Once they get these jobs, they get a fat pay check but are bored and feel worthless, which produces bitterness and clinging to the past. Rather than introspect, they blame others. Dennis Dale put it best, when he said, “The chronically incompetent and stupid typically blame luck or a spiteful world for their misfortunes.”
In this case, his only misfortunes are his boredom, place in life, and charity paycheck. But like they say, if you really want someone to hate you, give them your charity.
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Here’s his latest post. Read and discuss here so you don’t give him the satisfaction of blog hits:
Given the recent Glenn Beck rally and the overall tenor and tone of the country, I thought to offer the following series of comments I left at Chuck Ross’ blog, the post where he takes up the issue of CNN’s reportage of Black Male under performance in America’s schools:
“Bullshit, Chuck, and you’re the one who tries to run that fake the funk pseudo intellectual crap line. You’re just mad that unlike the other poor excuses for Black Men in these parts, I actualy challenge your weak and pathetic asses.
You and your ilk crossed the line a long way back, Chuck. Don’t get mad that now I’m stepping right in your chest.
I took the time out to address specific claims in this very post that still haven’t been responded to, by you or Doug or PA. Which indicates to me, that I’ve won the debate.
The entire arc of the (White) Manosphere is one of victimology, woe is me, everybody’s picking on me, the much maligned White Guy-from Sailer, to Half Sigma, to OneSTDV, to Roissy to the Spearhead, and it’s downright sickening, one because that’s no way for grownassed Men to conduct themselves, and two because if yure really all that like you say you are, you would have done somethng by now, and you haven’t.
The bitter truth is, that the whole lot of you are indeed, LOSERS. L. O. S. E. R. S. Read it slowly. I did not stutter or make a typo.
And it shows, that loser label, I mean. How are any of you guys gonna pick up chicks talking like that? Most White gals don’t like racists, opps, I mean “race realists”, and all that jazz you and your ilk routinely pop off with? Please.
Oh, and you should check the Dr. Laura thread at my blog, several of my commenters clean your clock several times over by now.
Smh…pathetic.
O.”
Some of my readers my have noticed my appearance and interaction over at Roissy’s blog, where I posted this same series of comments, with the challenge to anyone there to actually debunk me on the substance therein.
I repeat that challenge here and now:
I defy anyone here to debunk what I have said, on the merits.
Any takers?
Holla back
The Obsidian
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This never gets old:
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For Obese-dian to say that people who like svelte white chicks need to go to Estonia, is about as logical as for us to say that Obese-dian needs to go to the NgoroNgoro crater where the elephants are, or the Mzima springs where the Hippos are, or to Transvaal where the Cape Buffalo are, in order for him to satisfy his sexual preferences.
So how about it, Obese-dian? Why aren’t you on a plane to Kenya to find sexual bliss in the Great Rift Valley?
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What is sad is that I actually like Obese-dian’s writings about Game. I agree with all of his views on that topic, even if I have no interest in his unique brand of Mahout Game or Haradrim Game.
Too bad he has stopped talking about Game and has gone off the deep end on race…..
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gig–
I know why Ob is so angry. Given that he is a black dwarf, he resents his lack of representation in Snow White´s story. Seven dwarves and not a single black one??
Hahaha. Good one.
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Obsidian,
The most impressive black men I’ve met have been military men.
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A post about Estonian women turns into a 600+ comment thread about Obsidian…Wow. I don’t know what to think. Except maybe Obsidian writes things you guys don’t what to read? His original question is valid. Roissy and friends bitch about Western Women and sing the praises of Eastern Women, so why doesn’t Roissy go to the source? He’s mentioned planning a trip to Poland so it’s not a wacky question.
[Editor: Ob had no point. He is extra extra dumb. The concept he can’t seem to — or doesn’t want to — wrap his feeble brain around is this: it is possible for an American man to hold that EE women are, on average, all around better than American women on some important measures while at the same time having success with loving, kind, hot American women in his personal life. The two are not contradictory or mutually exclusive.
But then, I know this simple point won’t breach his adamantium blockhead skull, so I’d rather just taunt him with references to Africa’s great megafauna and the crumbled cheese delights of steatopygia.]
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Obsidian:
I tried to engage Obsidian. On several occasions. Even under his own terms.
Chic Noir is at least consistent. She seems to have a head on her shoulders. I disagree with her frequently, but one thing she hasn’t done with me, at least: No shaming language; no irrational appeals; no baiting or leading.
Obsidian regularly engages in all of these. When confronted, he simply goes into denial and shaming again, claiming you’ve gotten off point or you’re irrational. It’s the same thing.
I suspect it’s a symptom of being uneducated; it seems to be a lack of ability to infer or reason. He obfuscates when he should be clarifying. Though not particularly effectively, and not the way an educated feminist will. Feminists also follow the same general patterns, and they’re often highly educated, so I may be wrong on the source of his irrationality. I suspect it’s a deliberate defensive strategy. But he engages in this constantly.
Obsidian does seem bitter. I can’t identify the source. He’s also preachy, and not in a good way. I suspect people accuse him of this on a regular basis in real life. It makes him defensive: He’s extremely defensive, and regardless of what he says in his defence, I detect a bit of a symptomatic response there.
On his blog he has a rhetorical method of debate: he only allows discussion to follow the route he wishes, in order to make (usually very small) points. When you refuse to engage him on his very limiting terms, he claims victory by absence or silencing you. He rarely answers questions directly; instead, he attacks his own straw men.
He likes to do that. It’s safer for intellectual honesty to approach him on his own turf: he doesn’t play by rules that allow others to engage him.
In fact, most of his methods seem to suggest that he’s not really looking to engage others, but to preach. His presence and comments on CR illustrates this point in every sentence.
He often addresses shibboleths and straw men in his responses. You give him some fact or information or present a case; he doesn’t address you at all, he just assaults some demon in his own mind.
He also accuses everyone (including Chic Noir and Doug1 and everyone who doesn’t agree with him a priori) of not knowing what they’re talking about. This is his usual tactic.
When he tried to tell me I didn’t know what I was talking about in reference to Korea – on several occasions, until it became obvious he’s almost entirely unfamiliar with the place, I decided he wasn’t worth debating. I’m intimately familiar with the country, deeply familiar with the particular details of its history, both ancient and modern and post-WWII, I’ve met many of its key political players, I speak the language passably, I know its character and the culture of the people who live there – under and uber class.
I tried to make the case that Korean cuture had an exceptional response to privation and difficulty, and turned their country into one of the top economies in the world, with a focus on education and self-directed achievement, and that black American culture seems bent on not doing this (to be fair, lots of White American prole culture is similar, though not quite as bad). And that white (paternalistic) liberals have given the royal shaft to black people, though meaning well in their cockeyed kind of way. I even had to acknowledge that black separatism would have one beneficial effect: it would force more self-reliance and less statism on black people, were it to go to its logical conclusion. That alone would be a plus, though ultimately wouldn’t help in the larger picture.
He accused me of not knowing Korean history. Don’t I know the Americans helped out? Of course, I also know the Americans helped the Philippines and lots of countries, usually more. And that individual Koreans are just more successful and their culture profoundly promotes this.
Aside from attempting to unseat me, and ignore the point about black American culture I was making, it also illustrated not only his near-total ignorance.
The Koreans emphasized personal accountability, personal achievement in the face of terrible odds, a total willingness to sacrifice every aspect of life for their children’s opportunities (health, working life, social opportunities, money, anything), and that this *remains* the case. They’ll sacrifice not just simple pleasures but any aspect of their lives for their children, and to oblige their kids to never cease outperforming and upstaging others.
And the Koreans, no matter where they go, are profoundly successful with this attitude. And I made the simple point that black people among the lower classes (along with white people among the proles) have a disturbing lack of ability to see beyond the next minute and are champions at making excuses. There are so many excuses you get whiplash trying to keep track of them. On the other hand, Koreans are famous for not making excuses for their failures, but instead feel deep and crushing shame – spurring them to get 1st place next time.
And I pointed out how lower-class black culture is a terrible stain on black Americans, because it’s loud and criminal; when 50% of prisons are filled with black men, though the black underclass is maybe 5% of our population, it’s self-evident that there’s a massive problem that can’t be explained by anti-black racism on any scale. The culture of In-Your-Face Thuggism isn’t some hallucination of white Americans.
Asian Americans, by and large, see black Americans as little better then a bunch of apes; I listen to conversations in Chinese and Korean. The night-and-day difference between the cultural values practiced by black Americans (among the lower classes) and all other people in the US (including the black upper class) is so stark, so appalling, you’ve got to forgive a Korean or Chinese immigrant from concluding that the main social problem in the US is the presence of black people. And they *do*, by and large, conclude this. And this is clearly cultural. You just can’t make this point to Obsidian – no, no, it’s just an attempt by Whitey to tar the honorable black man. Obsidian just wouldn’t concede even the observation, let along the point.
But either it’s bad genetics or bad culture. The culture is obviously poison, but he won’t even allow the debate to discuss it. What *IS* thug/ghetto culture? Let’s have a 30-post debate about it. He wont’ even allow observations.
Obsidian is incapable of discussing this. I had some hopes that he’d be able to honestly discuss potential solutions, but he proved himself incapable of this. He was incapable of even admitting there was a problem. It’s sad, really. It’s one of the reasons we can’t discuss this at all. Obsidian highlights the pointlessness of even discussing this with the average Lefty or overly defensive, ultimately irrational black commenters.
All of his comments on this thread illustrate this more clearly than anything I could point out. And the tragedy again: He’s incapable of public self-reflecting. He’ll just deny and make ad hominem attacks and construct more straw men.
In point of fact, it’s not worth reading his comments.
Taking a moderate tone with him just fuels his rhetorical method of non-debate. He will never concede a point; he never acknowledges your position, even to accept that this is your position.
His method of debate is highly irrational. He appeals directly to emotion. In fact, the level of bitterness and the emotional appeals he makes, as well as the constant shaming language (of which he seems to be unaware) make him seem awfully like a hard-core marxist or feminist.
I don’t think he gets this. He has that singular inability to self-reflect, again.
When I’m backed into a corner, I’ll surrender the point; I can’t argue against established facts and clear point-to-point conclusions.
Not Obsidian.
And then to see this dim bulb taking on the white nationalists – it’s like several retarded children hitting each other with nerf bats. it’s funny to watch for about 2 minutes.
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Gorbachev–
Chic Noir is at least consistent. She seems to have a head on her shoulders. I disagree with her frequently, but one thing she hasn’t done with me, at least: No shaming language; no irrational appeals; no baiting or leading.
Yeah I agree. I like Chic Noir quite a lot. She’s also got a playful personality and a good sense of humor.
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Gorby,
The reason why you and I have reached an impasse is because, by your own admission, YOU DON’T KNOW BLACK PEOPLE. You are fundamentally incapable of discussing, with any degree of depth or complexity, the African American experience.
This was borne out by the fact that, despite my setting the table where we would ONLY discuss middle class African Americans, you and several other Whites were simply unable to do so without recourse to the “Black underclass”. It’s like you have deepseated psychological barriers to your being able to admit that not all Black folk live in the ghetto.
What I find fascinating throughout this dialogue, is how so many of you have concerns over my supposed “bitterness”; yet, no one deigns to ask why it is so many White Males in this and other forums, like the Spearhead, OneSTDV, Sailer and Half Sigma, are so deeply bitter. Just look at the post threads here, for example-comment after comment of pure bile, hatred and yes I’ll say it, out and out misogyny. Yet, Laura doesn’t think that odd; Dana doesn’t see anything wrong with that.
Why are White guys, who are highly college educated, have considerable disposable income, enjoy significant advantages simply being White, so very bitter and nihilistic about life? And, for those of you who maintain that the Roissy analysis highlights the reasons for this and more importantly, justifies it, then what real solutions have been broached to solve these problems?
From my interactions with you here, the Spearhead and elsewhere, the ostensible response is, “we need to vent and get angry so we’ll have the energy to get things done”. Yet, several years on, and in the case of the wider so-called Men’s Rights Movement, NOT A SINGLE LAW HAS BEEN PASSED that actually improves life for the very Men who claim to be aggreived in one way or another.
That’s huge to me.
It’s real easy to sit here and savage one Black guy who got tired of hearing blatant racist bile being slung around a forum that by its own stated purpose, ain’t even about all that.
Something else entirely to take a very hard look at oneself.
Which is why I fully expect this post to be ignored and mocked.
We’ll see…
O.
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Obsidian has obviously developed exactly the same type of obsession with HBDers and whites in general that Wendy Schwartz has for PUAs.
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Stop arguing with black people!!!! Before you know it, the fuckers will start doing this on all the posts and it will ruin everything!!! Just ignore them.
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Cer
It’s Obsidian pure and simple. Others may come to his defense, all but Chic Noir in a chickensite, anonymous or name made up for this thread only way, but it’s only Obsidian who’s consistently disruptive.
He’s become a race baiting troll pure and simple. And has now thoroughly unmasked his intense race hate here for all to see.
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@Doug1,
There are lots of smart black people. They can make a solid case if they have to. They don’t appear to frequent this blog or the others I read.
There are lots of smart black people. Obsidian isn’t one of them.
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Gorbachev–
There are lots of smart black people. Obsidian isn’t one of them.
I completely agree.
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Gorb–
In point of fact, it’s not worth reading his comments.
Taking a moderate tone with him just fuels his rhetorical method of non-debate. He will never concede a point; he never acknowledges your position, even to accept that this is your position.
His method of debate is highly irrational. He appeals directly to emotion. In fact, the level of bitterness and the emotional appeals he makes, as well as the constant shaming language (of which he seems to be unaware) make him seem awfully like a hard-core marxist or feminist.
Yuup, good analysis. That’s the nub of it.
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I bet NO ONE will read my response to Gorby, comment #615 or so, and actually respond to what I said. Instead, the very same Whitebreads who accuse me of censorship, shaming language and the like, will turn around and beg Roissy to ban me, attempt to shame me into silence and/or shame others into same for interacting with me. Notice how they simply refuse to engage some hard questions about themselves. And these guys are out to keep it real?
Please. What a joke.
I dare any of you to actually engage me on the issues and questions I raise, about you right in this forum and those related to it.
I defy you.
Bring it.
If you can.
Weakassed White boys
LOL
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Yet, several years on, and in the case of the wider so-called Men’s Rights Movement, NOT A SINGLE LAW HAS BEEN PASSED that actually improves life for the very Men who claim to be aggreived in one way or another.
Obsidian,
I presume people here power off their laptops when they’re done, and go about their lives.
This is just leisure time.
Is it supposed to be something else?
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What the punkassed CR doesn’t seem to get,
[Editor: It’s all about ass with you closet flamers.]
is that if you make your venue a one stop shopping center for White Male whinyness about the ills of American Women,
[Wrong. Out of hundreds of posts written here, only a handful are directly about comparisons between American women and foreign women.
And btw wazzup wit da Capitalization of white male? You Freudianly blurting out an undercurrent of deference to your superiors?]
but at the same time extoll and romanticize Women from the Eastern bloc (or anywhere else), someone at some point will simply ask:
If you’re so dis-satisfied about things here, why don’t you go elsewhere?
[Did you not get the elementary point I made to you when you asked this before, or are you just playing dumb? Your grammar is serviceable and your spelling decent, and yet you possess a tard level reading comprehension problem. You’re like an idiot savant minus the savant part.
Since you are a black supremacist automaton of very little brain, I’ll spell it out for you using children’s letter blocks:
NOTICING GOOD THINGS ABOUT FOREIGN WOMEN IN GENERAL AND BAD THINGS ABOUT AMERICAN WOMEN IN GENERAL DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN ONE IS DISSATISFIED WITH AMERICA, NOR DOES IT MEAN ONE DOES NOT ENJOY THE LOVE OF GOOD AMERICAN WOMEN IN ONE’S OWN LIFE.]
That CR himself enjoys American Women is really irrelevant, because by his own readership’s views, THEY are quite dis-satisfied.
[Oh, so now that you got my opinion which you were badly clamoring for and which discredited your idiotic question, it’s suddenly irrelevant. Got it.
As for the readers, they can speak for themselves. Why don’t you set up a blog with them and hash out the size shape color and texture of the perfect woman?]
Question: what has CR done to assist his readers to get where they want to be in this regard?
[Does this blog look like a travel agency? Do your thug life glocks come equipped with a sideways laser sight?]
Question: Has RooshV, who, unlike CR’s pansy ass, has actually travelled abroad in search of the Women he says he adores, offered any actual information to his readers so that they may do the same?
[I’m trying to find an atom of sense in this sentence, but can’t. If a reader wants to go abroad to meet foreign women, he needs the Chateau to hold his hand to buy a plane ticket? This is your argument?]
It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to know that CR has built a dual-track narrative: one the one hand, that American Women ain’t shit; and on the other, that Russian/Estonian/Easter bloc Women can do no wrong.
[Two false premises in one sentence. You’re the anti-Socratic equivalent of a feces throwing monkey.]
Cool, I say-now what?
[Remove the buttplug before crapping.]
Well…nothing. That’s what.
[More fiber, maybe?]
CR says, that by “shaming” American Women about their weight, it will force them to lose it.
[Or maybe we here at the Chateau just enjoy provoking losers like yourself into spittle flecked meltdowns. Any ancillary shame-induced weight loss is icing on the cake.]
Since CR prides himself on empirical data, can he provide ANY that shows, that over the course of this blog’s life of more than three years, that American Women’s average dress sizes have actually come down?
[What makes you think this blog’s express purpose is to be a charity foundation? Your blackness?]
I’ll wait.
[With pinched sphincter.]
Has his musings changed, in any demonstrable way, the dating landscape to the betterment of his White brethren-in ways we can actually measure?
{This blog gets appreciative emails on a daily basis from men whose dating lives have improved from reading here.
Not that you will believe that.
Like I tell all the other trolls and haters, you’ll just have to take my word for it.]
I’ll wait.
[With glock pointed sideways.]
See, like I said above in my reply to Gorby-it’s real easy to attack me.
[Fun too!]
Harder to attack the points I raise.
[It’s easy to do both.]
It’s real simple, folks. Who you gonna believe-me, or your lying eyes?
[Or the big black buttplug with the sideways laser sight aimed at some fat chick’s brown ringed anus?]
O.
[Check out his O face!]
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@theobsidianfiles
In truth, Obsidian, you’re just tiresome. I’d rather deal with white nationalist retards than you. When you back them into a corner, they at least have the sense to stop opening their mouths and confirming that they’re retards. Their opinions are based on rank prejudice and irrational dislike of the other; they know it at heart, and don’t apologize for it. For that small fact, I can respect them. You’re a different animal. You couch and cloak like some sort of shape-changing chameleon, as if people don’t know what you’re up to. The sad thing is that you’re not very good at it.
The reason why you and I have reached an impasse is because, by your own admission, YOU DON’T KNOW BLACK PEOPLE.</I.
I know many of black people. I just didn't grow up in the hood. The black people I know are all educated, talented, professional and well-off. They're basically white people with dark skin. They're American – exactly like me. Maybe moreso, I've lived in other places for much of the last 7 years.
The black lower classes seem like aliens. They're loud, obnoxious, they commit most of our country's crimes way out of proportion to their numbers, are the first to scream racism and the last to take the slightest bit of responsibility for their actions. It's *always* someone else's fault.
I work in the fucking media. I know the pressures. Huge riot on a subway? NO fucking way does it get reported that it's a bit riot of badly behaved, rude, dangerous black youth. They get a pass. I know how those decisions are made: I see it. Lots of black people are disgusted by how much leeway YBMs get in the media. The more like brutes they behave, the more anti-social, the less they get reported.
So fuck off. I know how it works. I have conversations with people where they tell me point black they're afraid of losing their jobs if they even report on some incident, let alone report on it fairly or using any angle at all.
Huge chunks of American cities are no-go war-zones. They're populated almost wholly by lower-class black Americans. Even Hispanic illegals are able to make a living on their own, as miserable as their lives may be. Black Americans from that class are – frankly – a dangerous social liability.
Every Asian person I've ever interviewed has said (often publicly) that America's problem is that it's saddled with this useless, parasitic class of black people. I tried to deny it for years, but on returning to the US, I realized: it's mostly true.
By and large, most black people are fine. But this class of lower-class, endemic-poverty thugs are unlike minorities I've seen anywhere else. The Tibetans have just reason to be pushy and arrogant in China: They're treated like shit. Tibetan kids are brutal to Chinese kids in big cities. They're angry and bitter. But they also have an urge to better themselves.
Gypsies in France and Spain do pretty fucking well, all things considered, even though they're treated like social pariahs.
Eastern Europeans in France, especially from the Balkans, make up much of the most brutal organized crime : But they're fucking *good* at it. They *run* organized crime. They're not stupid. I deplore their criminal rule, but I applaud their sense of self-motivation and skill. You have to.
*OUR* black lower classes are looked on as garbage even by Africans and Caribbean immigrants: they see their culture for what it is, a trap, a poisonous venom that sucks the life from communities. What positive cultural values can you salvage from the ghetto in Philly?
Seriously. You can't even admit the problem. Lots of smart black Americans can. They can scream it, and ideological fucktards tell them they're not black enough.
That's only directed at you. Not black people.
You are fundamentally incapable of discussing, with any degree of depth or complexity, the African American experience.
Am I?
I know all about the KKK and the civil rights movement. My parents were all for it. My mother was arrested in 1964 for civil rights actions that shall go nameless. If I brought a nice black girl home, my parents wouldn’t bat an eyelid. One brother works with black people in the army; his circle of closest friends includes 3 black men. They’re all professional, full-time military, Real Men who anger slowly and are disciplined and impressive. And VERY conservative. I met them twice. Well-spoken and fun guys. Real Men, like my brother, military guys, but professional and serious.
My other brother employs six people, three of them black, all decent men. He tells me they have no problems at work. One white guy has a drug problem. He doesn’t get a pass.
I don’t know ghetto culture. I don’t take public transit much. I related one story when I did, and on that subway, a gaggle of cackling, shouting, vicious black girls and a smaller group of posturing young black men near-terrorized the subway car. They called a nice old *black* lady a nigger when she tried to get the hell away from them.
These kids are a dangerous social liability.
You tell me I don’t know shit? Maybe I don’t. I know what I see. And what I see is an offensive anti-social culture.
Of course, it’s everyone else’s fault. When a black guy becomes a mass murderer it’s because of white society. When a white guy does it, it’s because of the guy.
I drive a nice car and I’m afraid to drive in some parts of town. Why? Who lives there? Korean foreign students?
Try again.
Either it’s very bad genes (they’d have to be really fucking bad to account for all this) or a disaster for a culture. Which one?
Which one? You tell me.
This is no illusion I see. Every damned person, even Africans, see this shit when they come here.
Spin that.
This was borne out by the fact that, despite my setting the table where we would ONLY discuss middle class African Americans, you and several other Whites were simply unable to do so without recourse to the “Black underclass”. It’s like you have deepseated psychological barriers to your being able to admit that not all Black folk live in the ghetto.
There’s no problem with the black middle class. They’re great. I work with some. Wonderful chaps. Nice women. Some are hot. I see them. My loins tingle, too. I’m male. Very professional. Basically, Americans, no real differences from me.
Boring. No news.
What I find fascinating throughout this dialogue, is how so many of you have concerns over my supposed “bitterness”; yet, no one deigns to ask why it is so many White Males in this and other forums, like the Spearhead, OneSTDV, Sailer and Half Sigma, are so deeply bitter. Just look at the post threads here, for example-comment after comment of pure bile, hatred and yes I’ll say it, out and out misogyny. Yet, Laura doesn’t think that odd; Dana doesn’t see anything wrong with that.
*WE’RE* bitter because, though we’ve done the right thing and been law-abiding and decent, we’re being raped.
YBMs cavort around and ignore school and deal drugs and end up in petty gang crime and accost people in public and hoot and holler and act like toughs – and they complain when they’re treated badly.
In Korea or China, they’d all be arrested immediately and sent to prison camps (china) or serious damned prisons (Korea) for minor offences, and they’d never get out, because they’re social liabilities with nothing to offer society.
*WE* behave ourselves and follow the rules and the feminists and equalists steal from us.
That’s why we’re bitter.
Why are White guys, who are highly college educated, have considerable disposable income, enjoy significant advantages simply being White, so very bitter and nihilistic about life? And, for those of you who maintain that the Roissy analysis highlights the reasons for this and more importantly, justifies it, then what real solutions have been broached to solve these problems?
See above.
From my interactions with you here, the Spearhead and elsewhere, the ostensible response is, “we need to vent and get angry so we’ll have the energy to get things done”. Yet, several years on, and in the case of the wider so-called Men’s Rights Movement, NOT A SINGLE LAW HAS BEEN PASSED that actually improves life for the very Men who claim to be aggreived in one way or another.
That’s huge to me.
Yeah, because we’re not a Designated Oppressed Class. The parasites can suck from us as much as they want.
It’s real easy to sit here and savage one Black guy who got tired of hearing blatant racist bile being slung around a forum that by its own stated purpose, ain’t even about all that.
Something else entirely to take a very hard look at oneself.
Which is why I fully expect this post to be ignored and mocked.
I made a case. I’m not a racist. I may be a race realist, but I’m under no illusion that the cure for our problems is racialism. It’s not.
But you can’t even admit that there’s something horrifically wrong with ghetto culture here.
I’m not talking Dana’s or WW’s blind white nationalism.
I’m talking about basic social honesty and analysis.
Take a fucking look. Go abroad and see what the US looks like when you get home. See what looks normal.
I went to Canada recently. Well-run, clean cities. Canadians told me the only crime problems they had were with the tiny Jamaican community (fatherlessness, BTW, was fingered as the main problem), and the Haitians in Montreal. And a few Muslim minorities that never seem to integrate, but aren’t necessarily racial minorities (Hello, London).
I asked where the bad parts of town were. I went there. It seemed inoffensive and pleasant. You could park your car and expect it to be there the next morning. And walk around at night.
The few black people I met said the biggest problem wasn’t racism: It was the bad rep they got from the bad apples from A Specific Background (meaning: Jamaicans, exclusively).
Canada had no black people before immigration. They only took the good ones in, with education. Apparently, they let Jamaicans in as nannies who brought their kids over after 10 years of being raised by nobody in Jamaica. And Jamaican culture is just more violent and crime-prone.
Wonderful country. They have no illusions: Lower-class immigrants aren’t fucking welcome. Get the hell out.
Tell me culture and attitude aren’t central in all this.
You’re just unable to discuss the black-on black slow-burn cultural holocaust going on.
I’ll tell you: I met no end of people in Korea who lived in the states or thought of moving here. Their main problem?
Too many black criminals. Massive – Social – Liability.
The black lower classes weren’t such shit 50 years ago, 60 years ago, 100 years ago. Those were people who had self-respect and could keep a job if they landed it.
Some of them even became academics – *entirely* on their own steam, in an age when standing up got you knocked down. Those people were awesome.
I want more of those. I want more black men who can be open and honest about hot fucked up much of black America is.
Right now, you have a bunch of poisonous liberals writing noxious prescriptions for our social ills. They’re making the situation progressively worse. Every generation is more fucked than the last. And the disease is spreading.
And like every other self-deluded nimrod, you can’t discuss it openly.
I actually thought you might be able to.
And don’t give me that “What about the black middle class?” BS. They’re fine. No news, nothing to talk about. Nice, decent people, good people, good Americans, nice to have them.
The tragedy of the black lower class (which has to be more than the 30% that you suggest – open your eyes) is so much more vast and tragic that I’m comfortable letting the black middle class get on with its life. They don’t need any help of any kind.
I’m going to reverse this for you.
Do *YOU* have any suggestions on how to improve the lot of the black lower class?
Or is it all just Whitey Bad Boy?
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VK:
Black man gaming white chicks?
Good for him.
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O: “I bet NO ONE will read my response to Gorby, comment #615 or so, and actually respond to what I said.”
I’ve read it, and I’ll respond. Whites are better off without non-whites around. If people want to visit and be friends, fine. But whites need to have their own lands again, and control their own destiny. That’s pretty much it, O. Fuck the multiracial sewer.
You are taking this too personally, as blacks tend to do. In college, I knew this guy from Japan. Nice guy, we became friends. To the best of my knowledge, just because he was friends with me didn’t mean that he wanted Japan swamped with scores of millions of people like me, nor did he seem particularly eager to have me screw his sister. He could like me, even be friends with me, but there were limits. Did I take offense at this? Did I gnash my teeth and rend my garments, screeching at him that weez all equalz, and that he be ignunt? Of course not. He wasn’t ignorant. He was Japanese, and that meant something.
I wasn’t offended at all, and he damn well knew that I felt the same way about my own people.
With my black friends it’s like that too. I suspect the reason that we are friends is because they know I’m not playing around and walking on eggshells. I suppose it could have gone the other way, ending in a fight. Instead, we became friends. I’ll never forget the line of one guy, rest in peace, who said, “An American town should only have two types of people, black and white. And it should have two churches, one black and one white. Both Baptist.” Lol good stuff.
Point is: get down for your tribe. If that is lost, so is everything else.
It ain’t personal, O. For what it’s worth, I’ve enjoyed many of your posts. Still don’t want you trying to score with my sister and, if you have any honesty, you’ll admit that you feel the same way about me…or should.
[Editor: A perfectly reasonable comment, Ryder. Which means that Obsidian will fail to comprehend it.]
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””””””’MichaelC
@Gunslingergregi
You could use these in iraq and afganistan like a motherfucker.
They charge on electric just plug em in. Add a gun upgrade and you can protect whole outer areas of bases with a group of these fuckers on patrol. Fuck.
Someone get me to pentagon lol
Yep, the Chinese have lots of sophisticated cheap stuff with lots of military uses.
Now consider the next big war will involve us against them, and they now have lots more manufacturing capability than we do.
Visualize being on the receiving end of swarms of millions of autonomous little flying and crawling robots, each carrying a grenade or anti-armor munition.
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Well I hope so because we can’t seem to solve our own problems in the west we need extermination.
Here is a western white man.
””””””’ Its just a matter of learning the programming environment and perfecting the algorithms(which I’m looking forward to because I love math).”””””””
wants to create some stuff. wants to better himself.
Then you got all these baby rules and shit standing in the way. Then you brothas standing in the way.
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then you got divorce laws standing in the way
then you have lazy females standing in your way
then the massive list of other crap to deal with instead of just focusing on excellance.
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So, I’ve gathered from this thread that several of the people here have never taken a serious course in logic, debate, or reading comprehension. This applies to both sides of the “debate”.
It is however, incredibly entertaining to read.
A few points:
1) The problem with Islam is the same as with every other faith based religion. Anyone attempting to make Islam appear worse is just plain wrong. Crusades, witch hunts, and inquisitions anyone?
2) The next generation will not have the same set of problems wrt race, as they are growing up in extremely mixed societies, and can see that the disparity is between the haves and the have nots, not the blacks and whites.
Conclusion:
When you guys can stop arguing about race (if they’re racist let them be as you can’t change a racist’s opinions on his particular hated race, he has too) and start arguing about how to fix problems (and if your solution involves something race specific, you’re still part of the problem) you’ll be on the right track.
p.s. The rest of the extraneous arguments are irrelevant, and the chicks were hot, but damn sure not hot enough to move for. If you can’t find hot chicks in America, you’re blind, stupid, and obviously not gonna get laid anyway, anywhere.
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We could be training our white men to carry the world just by being honest with them that it is what is expected but then at the same time give them the tools to do so.
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Gorbachev: “In truth, Obsidian, you’re just tiresome. I’d rather deal with white nationalist retards than you. When you back them into a corner, they at least have the sense to stop opening their mouths and confirming that they’re retards. Their opinions are based on rank prejudice and irrational dislike of the other; they know it at heart, and don’t apologize for it. For that small fact, I can respect them.”
The only white nationalist that you’ve backed into a corner was in World of Warcraft. Probably an elf, and it was tired.
The fact that you think that a people’s desire to preserve itself is simply based on “rank prejudice” and “irrational dislike” is so staggeringly stupid that it boggles the mind. The desire of the Japanese to not be overrun by swarms of foreigners is “rank prejudice” and “irrational dislike.” The desire to not become a minority in your own land is, undoubtedly, *ignorant.*
Just more gems from Gorby. What will that rascally loon come up with next?
It’s like your education is limited to after school specials: Sally won’t eat, and whites having their own land is evil. Evil, I tell you! Damn those white nationalists! How dare they object to their own dispossession? They be ignunt and shit.
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AH: “The next generation will not have the same set of problems wrt race, as they are growing up in extremely mixed societies, and can see that the disparity is between the haves and the have nots, not the blacks and whites.”
History indicates that they won’t have the same set of problems, that much is correct. They will have much worse problems.
AH: “When you guys can stop arguing about race (if they’re racist let them be as you can’t change a racist’s opinions on his particular hated race, he has too) and start arguing about how to fix problems (and if your solution involves something race specific, you’re still part of the problem) you’ll be on the right track.”
Yes, let’s ignore that massive amounts of non-white on white murder, rape, transfers of wealth, discrimination, physical dispossession and cultural destruction. According to “Alex Hardman,” nothing to see here folks! Now, let’s get back to my game of Three Card Monte!
AH: ” p.s. The rest of the extraneous arguments are irrelevant, and the chicks were hot, but damn sure not hot enough to move for. If you can’t find hot chicks in America, you’re blind, stupid, and obviously not gonna get laid anyway, anywhere.”
Thanks for the p.s., dude! Never mind that almost nobody is seriously talking about moving to Estonia, and I doubt many if any on this board have a hard time getting chicks in the Kwa. But thanks for the red herring!
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”””””’Alex Hardman
When you guys can stop arguing about race ”””
we need extermination.
Problem solved.
next
””””””disparity is between the haves and the have nots, ”””””’
Wrong when haves and have nots of the same race live together the disparity is not a problem.
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When people actually have an actual culure the people get along pretty well regardless of have or have not.
The reason why the have and have not is so stark
””””””are growing up in extremely mixed societies”””””””
Is because of growing up in extremely mixed society and the haves move the fuck away from the have nots.
When it is all the same race the have nots are still your relatives and shit so there isn’t the same fear level.
Plus the haves and have nots believe in the same god and have the same values and have the same traditions and have the same things that set them off.
They know the other people are just like them.
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””””’Ryder,
Fuck the multiracial sewer.
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Hell yea.
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gorb when did i become a “white nationalist”?
finding black people to be annoying, narcissistic, criminal leeches whos numbers are overinflated on the wrong end by government handouts hardly qualifies as a white nationalist. neither does wanting to tell them i think that
i dont want to kill them or deport them or anything, i just want them to shut the fuck up, stop crying, stop murdering everyone and raping them, and stop costing so much money while producing zilch
is that so wrong?
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Kind of like my kids aren’t gonna grow up with the black thugs on the corner. I think they will be better off that way.
he he he
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Dana,
The problem ain’t that you want to run off at the mouth; the problem is, that no one wants to hear what you got to say, LOL.
Now assume the position it’s time for another slap on that flat ass of yours…
O.
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Dana, The problem ain’t that you want to run off at the mouth; the problem is, that no one wants to hear what you got to say, LOL.
I’ve never skipped over a Dana comment.
And then to see this dim bulb taking on the white nationalists – it’s like several retarded children hitting each other with nerf bats.
Gorb, there were no retarded-sounding white nationalists on this thread — just people arguing with a loud, irrational black grievance monger. Don’t make up strawmen. And don’t be a Nowhere Man.
Also, I am somewhat warming up to your comments, lots of good stuff there, and you’re smart. But you aren’t as smart as you think you are. You are a mile wide, but a millimeter deep.
The only white nationalist that you’ve backed into a corner was in World of Warcraft. Probably an elf, and it was tired.
lollzzlzlz!
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PA Chuck is the most fair-minded and patient blogger I know of, and one of the the most black-friendly ones.
Yea I gotta give Chuck a few points for fairness. He really took his time with me when I was having a hard time understanding that to whites, earrings are sexual indicators or slut symbols.
PA and points out that his grandmother’s black second husband helped raise him
😯
SAY WHAT???
well remeber when you asked about the race threads, you see only one woman here arguing right?
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mouslix wrote ””””””’It is much better when the posts appear to come from many deranged individuals.
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Gunslingergregi’s response Yea there are a lot of sick sick bastards on here.
Glad I’m good.
😆
God bless America. Good night folks. See you in a few fortnights.
*chic noir packs bag and struts out of the chateau*
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damn were you waiting for me to come home from AC obs?
you know what?
i think you want to have 10,000 of my babies
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The problem ain’t that you want to run off at the mouth; the problem is, that no one wants to hear what you got to say, LOL.
So true. I heard that even the Republic of Estonia is now sending representatives to read this blog so that they wont miss Ob’s wisdom
How could Estonians survive with all those blondes and no comment from Obsidian?
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Alex Hardman
A few points:
1) The problem with Islam is the same as with every other faith based religion. Anyone attempting to make Islam appear worse is just plain wrong. Crusades, witch hunts, and inquisitions anyone?
A fallacy of false equivalence.
“8-5 centuries ago, there were some christian bad boys, and therefore muslims have a carte blanche in 21st century indulge in murder and mayhem”.
The thing is … Open the New Testament and count instances where JC says: “Kill infidels wherever you finds them, strike them on their necks.”
Then open Koran and do the same.
Report with the results here.
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Kids gonna grow with technology and farmland and no niggers. Best I can give em.
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Back to baboons… Did you know that trained baboons served as temple helpers in ancient Egypt? Yea, amazing, they were able to participate in rituals, simply by doing what they were trained to do. That was after the Lower Egypt priests realized that Nubians are untrainable.
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I want to hear what Dana has to say.
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Dana,
Is it even possible for you even have any babies with your old, flat ass?
O.
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I don’t want to hear what Obsidian has to say.
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you love me
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Is it even possible for you even have any babies with your old, flat ass?
You called too many people “old” today. Projection?
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@dana
gorb when did i become a “white nationalist”?
finding black people to be annoying, narcissistic, criminal leeches whos numbers are overinflated on the wrong end by government handouts hardly qualifies as a white nationalist. neither does wanting to tell them i think that
i dont want to kill them or deport them or anything, i just want them to shut the fuck up, stop crying, stop murdering everyone and raping them, and stop costing so much money while producing zilch
is that so wrong?
Given that this does appear to be a social problem with a solid permanent underclass, no.
I rescind my naming of your name.
You’re not White Woman or Ryder.
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@Ryder,
No problem with your position, so long as you acknowledge that blacks are as American as you are, have every right to live here, and deserve a fair shake. They have every right to be your neighbors and share in the fruits of citizenship in the same country.
On the other hand, it would be nice if what Obsidian thinks is an irrelevant core group of them would, like, try to actually *be* citizens, in one form or another.
And Ryder, I still think you’re an asswipe for thinking that just because someone’s white, he’s a member of your tribe. Because I know a lot of white people who’d love to take advantage of that – and you’ll discover awful quick they’re not members of your tribe at all.
And that’s why white nationalists are fucking retarded.
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Because I know a lot of white people who’d love to take advantage of that – and you’ll discover awful quick they’re not members of your tribe at all.
hahaha yeah
we know what tribe they belong to
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@Ryder,
Just one more for ya. Then I’m taking the night off. Girl stuff and all that.
The fact that you think that a people’s desire to preserve itself is simply based on “rank prejudice” and “irrational dislike” is so staggeringly stupid that it boggles the mind. The desire of the Japanese to not be overrun by swarms of foreigners is “rank prejudice” and “irrational dislike.” The desire to not become a minority in your own land is, undoubtedly, *ignorant.*
Just more gems from Gorby. What will that rascally loon come up with next?
Black Americans are as un-foreign as it gets in this country. Hence the hate-on blacks have for hispanics and illegals who come here, and especially for asians.
Asians come here, automatically do well, don’t rely on handouts and show lower-class-blacks up for what they are – self-inflicted self-appointed professional victims. Best reason to hate them: Within one generation, these newfound arrivals make better Americans than a brother from Philly.
You can argue with pixels on a screen on a blog in I-space, but walk down a street and check out the stats with your eyes.
Hard to deny the truth. Hence the hate-on.
If anyone should hate immigration, it’s got to be black Americans. They have the real motivation.
Problem is for you, Ryder, these fair United States are home to black and white Americans – this is our native land now.
Don’t like it?
Maybe try moving to Estonia or Finland. They’re white. Your tribe, yes?
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gorb
where are you from in US?
out of curiosity
blacks may be native born, but they have as distinct an alien culture to the majority as jews (did you read my description of growing up a jew alien at my place?) and chinese people
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Dana,
Do I love you? If by that you mean, do I love kicking you in that flat ass of yours, yup.
Gig,
Nah. No projection. I just like giving old assed Doug and Dana shit for being, well, old.
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Right, Gorby. My tribe is conservatives. A stripy tabby conservative is my kin.
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you want to marry me
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By the way, that Estonian stadium-song is really growing on me. I’m listening to it on repeat loop.
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lol. This.
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Back to baboons… Did you know that trained baboons served as temple helpers in ancient Egypt? Yea, amazing, they were able to participate in rituals, simply by doing what they were trained to do. That was after the Lower Egypt priests realized that Nubians are untrainable.
For many centuries after Narmer unified Lower Egypt and Upper Egypt (Nubia), people still thought it was not a brightest of ideas.
That was 35 centuries ago. The more things change, the more they seem the same.
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Gorby pretty much just outed himself as a Yid right here.
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@Dana
New England big city.
I agree, there’s a distinct culture among lower-class blacks. But from my personal experience, upper-class and middle-class blacks tend to be, basically, white; once you get beyond a few superficial cultural characteristics, they’re basically middle-class white people. They live quiet lives, fuck around as much as white people, get divorced, get married (sad chumps), have kids, go to work, get promoted, hate their jobs, love their jobs, retire, etc. Largely invisible. They invest money, lose it, make it. Entirely unremarkable and middle-class and normal and boring and nothing to say about it.
Their *kids* might get seduced by the sick, twisted game show that is lower-class black culture. That’s unfortunate. More reason to stamp it out relentlessly. It’s all poison.
We only notice the massive number of lower-class blacks living on welfare and getting shitty government jobs and being rude to everyone all the time. The lower classes are so outrageously toxic and dysfunctional that it drowns out the quiet hum of middle-class black life.
An entire decade of illegal hispanic immigration is better than having this lower-class black dysfunctional culture continue. Hispanics at least work. Damn, they love to work.
This was my problem with white nationalists and Obsidian:
White nationalists say it’s black people, ie, all of them. This is demonstrably untrue There’s potential for black Americans to be like their middle-class brothers.
But Obsidian gets on threads like this with his provocations and says it’s just *racism*. This is the reason that there’s an essentially permanent low-IQ criminal underclass sucking the lifeblood of our cities away. Which is total shite.
I’ll tell you this: My Asian friends all know what the score is. They see a bunch of black kids – they get the fuck away from them. Half the time there’s no reason to. The other half, it’s suicide to be within 100 feet. So Obsidian can call us all racists, but he’s dead wrong. Realists, more like. You run away from the social toxins that fill up the gutter. If more black families did this, they’d be better off.
Koreans have no problem calling it for what it is, and I’ve got to go with them: theirs is the rational and reasonable response. They’ve got their BBoy music, too (how quaint and charming it is, in that Korean copy-the-style-be-cool-but-cute kind-of way). But when I took a bunch of Koreans to NYC to see the sights – fuck, the subway terrified the living shit out of them, and frankly me too, and they’re from Seoul, a huge, grossly overpopulated city; There were black people on the subway, harmless and going home from work or whatever, but the black people they REMEMBER seeing were – well, let’s just say they were the Real Bad Boys. It left an impression. Every one of those Real Bad Boys should have had a cop right behind him who never left his side, just to make sure. In Korea, they’d be strung up for being asocial assholes. The Koreans have no idea why these thugs can get away with it here.
So Obsidian is the bigger villain here. The white nationalists are just stupid. They hurt no-one, because they can’t even get a mass of white people to follow their lame shit. It’s even amusing and quaint.
But Obsidian: It’s more denial, denial, denial, and the problem never goes away, and we get more welfare moms and crack babies and gutted, burned-out inner-cities.
More wasted black lives. NO NO NO! It’s RACISM! BLAH BLAH! It’s All The White Man’s Fault! No Blame Here! We’re Not The Problem! GIMME GIMME GIMME!
Katrina: In the Dome, which white people had black men stealing food, beating each other up, and raping women? None. A bunch of lower-class black people got together and started devouring each other. No Whitey there. That’s a massive, enormous embarassment for black people. The fact: It was lower-class blacks and their *cultural* response that did this. If they were nice, middle-class peopel with jobs and who spoke to each other respectfully and had nice middle-class values, it would have been totally different.
Contrast: White proles. Not nearly as criminal. Why? Culture: They have, at least, a majority culture to fall back on.
“Blackness” is almost defined as how bad-ass you are. That’s shit.
Obsidian’s intellectual crimes are crimes of substance. White Woman’s or Ryder’s intellectual crimes are more or less irrelevant. Unless they spawn a Hitler, we don’t need to care.
I found this when I traveled; I found it easier to relate to American blacks (who were educated blah blah blah) than it was to Canadians/Aussies/brits: the blacks and the white Americans I knew shared a common cultural vocabulary, despite the differences.
Same goes for Jews. Another brand of American. But all, basically, American. The truth is that Jews have a major split in their cultural ranks: Israelis (whatever that means – it’s cultural chaos over there) and American Jews, because these places account for more or less the majority of Jews. And of those Jews, you’ve got NYC and LA.
The Jews are the leakiest ethnic boat in America. They’re interbreeding awfully fast, *when they’re breeding at all*. Remember, feminism has hit Jewish NYC hardest.
A lot of conservative Jews are calling it the end of American Jews. The percentage of part-Jews among white Americans is going way up. Should do wonders for our general white IQ.
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Dana says to me:
“you want to marry me”
O: You gotta be kidding me, you dance like Rain Man on the one and three beat. What kind of wedding party is that?
O.
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This is part of the solution for Young Black Men. Ditch the shit culture.
[Editor: Genes have a nasty habit of getting in the way of shit culture ditching.]
http://www.urbanprep.org/
Put these kids in schools and teach them up to the level they can get.
[Will Michelle Pfeiffer play the role of the white savior teacher in your fantasia?]
Some of them too stupid for college? Take them as high as they can go.
[Motivation matters.]
The point of education used to be character, too. Instill some fucking character into these kids. Because they’re getting SFA now.
[Isn’t it interesting that all the talk is of instilling white cultural values into black kids and never black cultural values into white kids.]
Old black grandmas know this all too well.
[Notably missing: old black grandfathers.
Gorb, you gotta get off your culture uber alles kick. It’s blinding you to the realities of human nature.]
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Oh, don’t worry Roissy, I understand very well what Ryder’s saying. The problem isn’t that, but that he’s living in a pipedream. The United States is fundamentally different from Japan, which explains our vibrancy and their relative stagnation. A big reason for that is the presence of African Americans.
[Editor: Did you just use the word vibrancy non-ironically? Side splitting!]
Oh, and it’s irrelvant as to what Ryder wants. His sister has the right to choose whom she will let into her bed. Simple as that.
Not that you would understand all that…
O.
[Japan’s got vibrancy. It’s just not of the random bloodshedding variety. And they don’t answer fistfights with sideways style gunfire.
Keepin’ that honor on the downlow.]
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@PA
And then to see this dim bulb taking on the white nationalists – it’s like several retarded children hitting each other with nerf bats.
Gorb, there were no retarded-sounding white nationalists on this thread — just people arguing with a loud, irrational black grievance monger. Don’t make up strawmen. And don’t be a Nowhere Man.
Okay, you got me. I was referencing previous threads.
I got into the strawman habit from listening to Obsidian too much.
Also, I am somewhat warming up to your comments, lots of good stuff there, and you’re smart. But you aren’t as smart as you think you are. You are a mile wide, but a millimeter deep.
Two millimeters. And there’s a deep end. I know it’s around here somewhere.
The only white nationalist that you’ve backed into a corner was in World of Warcraft. Probably an elf, and it was tired.
lollzzlzlz!
The funny thing is – despite living in the World of Warcraft Nation (South Korea), where more time is spent on WoW than on any other single activity, I never did play the thing. I noticed all the men in the PCBangs and thought: Okay. The men are there.
And where are the women?
That’s how men are supposed to think.
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The percentage of part-Jews among white Americans is going way up. Should do wonders for our general white IQ.
Thanks for helping us out with Da Vinberg, Shakestein, and Newtowitz earlier!
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@PRCalDude
I know all about the KKK and the civil rights movement. My parents were all for it. My mother was arrested in 1964 for civil rights actions that shall go nameless.
Gorby pretty much just outed himself as a Yid right here.
Heh – I wish it was true. I’d have done a lot better in advanced linear algebra.
Not too many jews in rural New England, my fine trollish friend.
Not too many.
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Gorby, Should do wonders for our general white IQ.
The problem is that it is usually triggering some sort of gene that results in a self-hating behavioral patterns. A mixed bag, as it were.
I take a full blown Israeli over an American half-Jew.
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@PA
The percentage of part-Jews among white Americans is going way up. Should do wonders for our general white IQ.
Thanks for helping us out with Da Vinberg, Shakestein, and Newtowitz earlier!
Yeah, Shakespeare’s grandmother on his father’s side was Jewish! How’d you know? I thought that was a Cabal secret.
(We all know he was a liberal, after all).
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Gorby,
Have you seen Spike Lee’s latest documentary on New Orleans? You really should check it out. It’s on HBO.
O.
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@Morsellaux
Gorby, Should do wonders for our general white IQ.
The problem is that it is usually triggering some sort of gene that results in a self-hating behavioral patterns. A mixed bag, as it were.
I take a full blown Israeli over an American half-Jew.
That’s because a full-on Israeli will kill yo with his left pinkie, then go home and serially shag several of his girlfriends.
No pussies with penises there.
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It’s like this, Gorby: constant Jewish attack on goyish civilization is much more likely to spawn another Hitler than whites sticking up for themselves and wanting something as crazy as to have a country where they’re not demographically flooded by third worlders. Remember: Jews did just fine in the South during the Civil War – it was the Northern generals that persecuted them. Read the Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership website.
I know in your Hebrewkopf that sounds crazy, but it’s really the case. It’s not that you’re a people who shall dwell alone, it’s that you’re a people who can’t leave well enough alone.
I agree with you regarding middle class blacks, btw. When they don’t have a 1-ton chip on their shoulder, they’re great people.
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gorb–tell that to the whites in the dome during katrina:
http://whitelocust.wordpress.com/2008/12/27/africa-in-our-midst-lessons-from-katrina/
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Dana,
Yea, I read that “report”, too.
Have you seen Spike Lee’s latest documentary on New Orleans? It’s on HBO, you should check it out.
Looking forward to hear what you think.
O.
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That did not sound quite right. I take a full-blooded Israeli…
Of course, there are exceptions. Read comments on Haaretz and prepare to roll yer eyeballs.
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yeh gorb why are you so much jewier than me?
seriously, im missing a JudenGene
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It doesn’t really matter if there are many. In fact, the most pleasant Jews are typically from goyish areas, if you can imagine that my Yiddish friend. In fact, every Jewish officer I met in the Navy was from some heavily goyish area (like Tennessee). The intolerant “SARAH PALIN IS A MONSTER AMERIKKKA IS EVIL” paranoiacs tend to be from places like Sherman Oaks and New York. HTH.
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PRCalDude says:
“I agree with you regarding middle class blacks, btw. When they don’t have a 1-ton chip on their shoulder, they’re great people.”
O: Translation – they have to defer to White folks and kiss the ring, if they don’t they have a “chip on the shoulder”.
LOL
I dare a MFer to knock this one off (pulls slides back on hammers)…
O.
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@PRCalDude
It’s like this, Gorby: constant Jewish attack on goyish civilization is much more likely to spawn another Hitler than whites sticking up for themselves and wanting something as crazy as to have a country where they’re not demographically flooded by third worlders. Remember: Jews did just fine in the South during the Civil War – it was the Northern generals that persecuted them. Read the Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership website.
I know in your Hebrewkopf that sounds crazy, but it’s really the case. It’s not that you’re a people who shall dwell alone, it’s that you’re a people who can’t leave well enough alone.
Alas, I’m not actually Jewish – I, um, “dated” a few, and my longest serious GF before I got married was Jewish, and my wife’s best friend was Jewish, … though not that you’d guess by her visceral hatred of Israel (a particular Left-Jew problem in the US, where it’s a social crime to actually admire or like Israel).
But I know Jews fell all over the political landscape. They always do. Rich Jews, especially. And most are pretty well-off, now. If they’re liberals, they’re of the armchair variety – Oh, yeah, black people– let’s have affirmative action. Just not at my company. I think that’s Petty Bourgeoisie. My ex’s best friend hated them, too.
There’s way more non-Jew white Feminist leftists bastards than there are Jews in total. The whole damned country is filled with them. Surgically excising the universities might briefly stem the problem, but they’re like a rising red tide sucking the oxygen out of the water and killing all the fish. You can’t stop the buggers. The Jews are just cheerleaders, by comparison.
I agree with you regarding middle class blacks, btw. When they don’t have a 1-ton chip on their shoulder, they’re great people.
Really, this is true. I’m sure you have to get away from shitholes like DC to actually see any.
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@dana
yeh gorb why are you so much jewier than me?
seriously, im missing a JudenGene
You seem to be.
I have no Jew genes, unless you can absorb them. I just fucked a good number of Jews and tagged along. Good people. Smart. A little neurotic.
Wait, that’s a stereotype. I should have said: A lot neurotic. That’s not just a stereotype, it’s actually true.
But why are Jewish guys such pansies? Makes their women so much easier to steal.
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So, O, being a decent, productive and contributing member of society is disgusting, while being a leech and a parasite is the pinnacle of humanity.
Did I get it right?
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Look, dude, real blacks are not like what you’ve learned about watching 70s blaxploitation movies. You make yourself look more like a wannabe Barack Obama black the more you talk.
Your internet toughguy schtick impresses no one. Real tough guys do not threaten people on the internet, nor do they run around making threats.
“Pulls slides back on hammers” – I can tell your gun knowledge is about zero with this statement.
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Drank their own feminist poison?
I’d like to believe this. Unfortunately, the data do not bear this out. They vote 78% democrat and those that vote Republican vote neocon Republican. Paul Gottfried Jews are less than 1%.
[Editor: I have yet to meet a regular jewish person IRL who wasn’t for open borders. Oh wait, I think I know one. One. Out of probably hundreds whose acquaintance I’ve known. Contra Gorb and Whiskey, Jews are very left wing, support left wing causes to the hilt, and generally hold a superiority complex vis a vis Gentiles.
It is what it is. Denying it only makes one look mendacious.]
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CR,
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[Editor: Did you just use the word vibrancy non-ironically? Side splitting!]
O: You didn’t hear me stutter, boy!
[Editor: Do you know what the word rhetorical means?]
Everyone knows Black folk are the heart and soul of America…including Japan.
[Look, I know you’re just trolling for kicks. For whatever reason, you’ve decided to come here and do an exaggerated shuck and jive dance for the edification of whatever black power sistah is looming over your shoulder watching you type on your laptop. I get it, malcolm hex. If this phoneyfuck thug life schtick gets you laid with some 300 pound heifer throatily whispering FUCK MY BIG BLACK BOTTOM as the malt liquor stokes the flames of romance, then I totally understand your posturing. Who can resist a cape buffalo backing that ass up?]
They was fiending on Black arts and culture since before you were born (really, they were; I caught a few concerts of Art Blakey and the Yellowjackets live on tape when they were in Japan, and one of Philly’s best known DJs, Cash Money, is revered like a god over there; his face is plastered all over buses and that sort of thing, etc. Hip Hop is HUGE over there.)
[No one said black American culture is a void. But neither is it the “heart and soul” of America (and Japan!), and what black culture contributions there are came with a fuckload of shitty baggage, said baggage which you are gleefully embodying with your steez posing and inability to follow a logical argument.]
[Japan’s got vibrancy. It’s just not of the random bloodshedding variety. And they don’t answer fistfights with sideways style gunfire.
O: So long as it hits the target, besides, we Brothas got style in everything we do. 😉
[So you admit black men have no honor?]
And oh yea, keep believing that, Gaijin. The Japs will shoot you with the quickness, trust me.
[Are you aware Japanese gun-related homicides are a tiny fraction of black American gun-related homicides?]
Keepin’ that honor on the downlow.]
O: Oh yea, it’s just the Yakuza just lops off fingers for old time’s sake. Nothing to see here, keep it moving…
[A dude walking through a black ghetto will have
a. a greater chance of getting assaulted and/or murdered, or
b. a lower chance of getting assaulted and/or murdered
than a dude walking through a Japanese neighborhood where Yakuza are known to hang out?]
You’re slipping, son. Try again!
[If Japan’s economic stagnation is indicative of its lack of vibrancy, then what is homogeneous China’s incredible economic growth indicative of?]
O.
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im curious why o doesnt think white men have guns?
at least whne they do they don;t hold them in that ghey innacurate sideways stance
my husband loves guns, knives, spears, weapons he makes out of knife sharpeners, electrical tape and thumbtacks
i seriously think he wishes someone would break in so he could kill them
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PRCalDude,
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P: Look, dude, real blacks are not like what you’ve learned about watching 70s blaxploitation movies. You make yourself look more like a wannabe Barack Obama black the more you talk.
O: Barack Obama is akin to Blaxploitation era films? Who’s the one who doesn’t know Black folk here?
P: Your internet toughguy schtick impresses no one. Real tough guys do not threaten people on the internet, nor do they run around making threats.
O: Who said i was making any threats? *sly grin*
P: “Pulls slides back on hammers” – I can tell your gun knowledge is about zero with this statement.
O: “hammer” is slang for pistol – just like burner, heater, gat, etc, et al. I wasn’t referring to the hammer on a gun, you ninny.
Are we learning Black Folk 101 yet?
O.
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im not for open borders!
[Editor: I know. That’s why I used the IRL qualifier. The blog world is a different beast altogether.]
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Dana, why do you think those blks in the stadium were made at the white tourists?
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RE-READ WHAT I ACTUALLY WROTE.
Did your composition teachers just see black and stamp “A” on your papers?
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hahaha yeah
we know what tribe they belong to
Redirect to: yer mom
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Obsidian
Dana,
The problem ain’t that you want to run off at the mouth; the problem is, that no one wants to hear what you got to say, LOL.
Plenty of people here do, including me.
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Actually, you misunderstood the 90s gangster rap that you used to listen to try to find black authenticity living in white suburbs.
No one refers to guns as “hammers” in any song. They might refer to “banging hammers” as in “pulling the trigger of a gun,” but even they know (a lot) more about gun anatomy than you do.
Just admit it.
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You’ve obviously never been to England. Or for that matter paid attention when you were in America.
Blacks are only 15% of the voting population. They got nothing that someone else didn’t vote for them. Or use their power to give them.
Do you actually believe “forced integration of schools” was done cause BLACKS wanted it? FACTUALLY, it occurred cause Congress and the Supreme Court, representing the Establishment, ORDERED THAT IT BE DONE.
Now, do you believe that Congress or the Supreme Court is concerned about the opinion of ghetto slum dwellers, or the Constitution, or anything but what the Establishment wants?
Now, is the Establishment White or Black?
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Gorbachev–
Good point.
Also it’s not just ghetto black lower classes that are often rude as hell to anyone non black, esp. whites and Asians. That’s true of a lot of working class blacks too. DMV workers. Post office. Just on the street in non ghetto areas. Fatter women tends to mean more rude. Fat black women are often worse in this than black men. Actually come to think of it working class black men don’t tend to be all that rude in my experience, if you show them politeness yourself.
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Gorb–
Israelis (whatever that means – it’s cultural chaos over there) and American Jews, because these places account for more or less the majority of Jews. And of those Jews, you’ve got NYC and LA.
Not the majority more or less. The overwhelming majority. North of 80% of the world’s Jews. Maybe 90%. I’m not motivated to google it.
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I can’t be sure, but to the best of my knowledge, Obsidian has previously expressed antipathy towards any sort of immigration reform (particularly WRT to Mexicans), perhaps because, in his anti-white masturbatory froth, he would prefer to see them Crackers wrassle with the difficulties of “colored folk” — regardless of the particular shade of brown involved.
But I’m here to tell ya, O — as someone who is half-brown, who knows what’s going on in the belly of the beast — them beaners don’t give a FUCK about Los Negritos and are FAR more racist than your average everyday whitey. They KNOW them niggaz is bad news, and they don’t dance around the issue. Not like them refined, naive whitebreads who mistakenly bow to Christian heritage and elevated notions of the Equality of Man. No siree — you can talk shit all you want about them cracka nerds, losers and whatnot, but if you aint against open borders, then I ASSURE you that when our demoralized whites who CAN’T do what is necessary to get the job done, those MexiCANS *will. Real talk.
Tha niggaz won’t be banking on Whitey’s better (weaker)natures no’ mo’ — they’ll be writhing under the cowboy boots placed on their necks by the spics who know what time it is. Ya herd? Real talk.
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”””””” and you’ll discover awful quick they’re not members of your tribe at all.”””””””
When shit goes down you will realize having a tribe is all that matters.
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In the spirit of kumbaya:
Me and Obsidian attempting to pick up Chic Noir and her crew:
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Amusing–
Blacks are only 15% of the voting population.
They’re much less than that. They’re only 12.5% of the population. They vote a lot less than whites do. I’d guess without googling it that they’re about 9% of the voting electorate. Hispanics vote even less compared to their similar 12.5% of the population (including the 20 million or so illegals). I think they’re around 5-6% of the electorate overall. Despite the leftist mainstream media’s efforts to give a contrary impression about the mighty Hispanic voting power.
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…whereupon Cannon rolls up on us
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””””’Gorb
You run away from the social toxins that fill up the gutter. If more black families did this, they’d be better off.”””””’
That is the fucking problem they are blacks are running to everywhere from blacks.
The only problem is they bring black with them and the cycle repeats.
The problem is blacks.
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And this.
””””’Tupac
demoralized whites who CAN’T do what is necessary to get the job done”””””’
And this.
”””””Tha niggaz won’t be banking on Whitey’s better (weaker)natures no’ mo’ ””””””’
Obviously though shit is changing.
We just missing the right leader. It ain’t weak nature in a way just ungalvanized. You convince white people the world is theirs by birthright they will take it.
he he he
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Isn’t that how we took the us because god said so.
All ya have to do is say god said not me I’m just a dude.
God said whites need to inherit the world.
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Reading some obsidian in regards to blacks in the hood and guns I am starting to believe that he has never actually grown up with black in the hood.
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i haven’t thought of a response to that video that is anywhere close to “kumbaya”
they are all along the lines of “the Face of interbreeding”
and that is rather more rude than i am going for
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hence why in past he always debated other white people with you don’t know what it is like in the hood the real hood but always ignored my side he he he
Only thing obs knows about the hood is what he heard in hop hop.
Real talk hip hop is not the real hood.
One white alpha can take out the whole fucking hood.
Real talk.
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I’ve read that logic is not something that can be successfully taught. You either get it, or you don’t. Most people who can think clearly always could, and the descriptions of reasoning merely clarify their vocabulary of how they are already thinking clearly. Some people with middling talent can better self correct their thinking using tools of logic. But teachers of logic will tell you that you can’t teach logic. Either the innate ability is there, or it isn’t.
It took me many years to realize that it is fruitless to debate some people for purposes other than stimulating your own imagination to refine and express your thoughts.
Some people can not be corrected. They lack the mental capacity.
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@Doug1
Doug, that is so true! What in the world is it with fat black women??? They are so friggin’ rude and condescending.
I can’t wait for the welfare state to disintegrate.
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I like the
“real talk”
though fun to say.
thanks tupac lol
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What in the world is it with fat black women??? They are so friggin’ rude and condescending.
i am CERTAIN that there is an adjective that overlaps the attitudinal behaviors of the great resource-aggregating herbivores of the sub-saharan, so that we may add a new word to the Big Four.
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Real talk spirit of kumbaya.
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Obsidian–
Here in America though, the One Drop Rule reigns supreme, and both Dungy and Obama self-identify as Black, as do Alicia Keys, Mariah Carey, Halle Berry, etc.
Just wanted to drop that on ya.
No wonder then that the vast majority of white people in reality whatever they say for the media (given the incredible leftist media controlled propaganda) don’t want their daughters to mate with black men. The kids will be considered black, not mixed, by these days black dictat and leftist white acceptance. That’s very real when they start going to school. Even if the family and the black dad felt differently (if he’s still around).
Under these conditions of course white guys should shame white girls who go black. And if it isn’t a one off, shun them.
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”””””””’Australian tourists stuck in the Superdome had the same experience. Bud Hopes, a 32-year-old man from Kangaroo Point, Brisbane, took control and may have saved many lives. As the stadium reverted to anarchy he realized whites were in danger, and gathered tourists together for safety. “There were 65 of us altogether so we were able to look after each other, especially the girls who were being grabbed and threatened,” said Mr. Hopes. They organized escorts for women who had to go to the toilet or for food, and set up a roster of men to stand guard while others slept. “We sat through the night just watching each other, not knowing if we would be alive in the morning,” Mr. Hopes said. “Ninety-eight percent of the people around the world are good,” he said; “in that place 98 per cent of the people were bad.””””””””
When shit hits fan color matters.
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i haven’t thought of a response to that video that is anywhere close to “kumbaya”
they are all along the lines of “the Face of interbreeding”
Indeed. The phenomenon of interbreeding has produced many, ah, unique specimens of the Jewish genome, involving high intellegence, amoral opportunism, fish lips, glassy eyes, and transformative, transgender forays into bisexual/degenerate/fag impulses toward immediate gratification of higher-order abstract thinking, which has decoupled the biological imperative (reproduction) from it’s epiphenomenal norm (romatic love).
An inevitable and superior vector of the biological demiurge towards higher states of being, or a backwater cesspool of narcissistic self-reflexivitiy?
You be da judge.
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Morsellaux
Dam should be required black listening.
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What in the world is it with fat black women??? They are so friggin’ rude and condescending.
i am CERTAIN that there is an adjective that overlaps the attitudinal behaviors of the great resource-aggregating herbivores of the sub-saharan, so that we may add a new word to the Big Four.
That is right. Try getting a hippopotamus to eat cucumbers out of your hand. Try riding a rhinoceros. Try getting a Cape Buffalo to pull a cart.
Black women evolved to match these great beasts in yet a fifth dimension : a pugnacious disposition.
Size, shape, color, texture, and…….disposition!
We are doing groundbreaking (heh) research here..
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Obs is seriously off his meds. And definitely on them.
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That dude getting me me pumped up.
Shit was powerfull.
Kind of like the slave mentality of raising kids that has been placed on all of america and how kids are a sacrifice.
They are a joy.
They are cool.
They are good.
They are pure.
They are little sponges.
They are mini you’s
Fuck the slave mentality in regards to children.
They are cool and we don’t need to get paid to have them.
They are what is good in the world.
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When I see my son and he says papa with a big smile on his face. What did I sacrifice?
Where is the shit he owes me later?
It is cool just to be able to be an influence on the little dudes life.
It is cool to be able to kind of have a hand in creating another human being and expanding their potential.
Really some amazing shit.
woman like that helicopter for kids.
I am yea its for my son.
Even gives me an excuse to buy toys lol
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course after that I was like this future of war baby I am on the cutting edge he he he
That one alpha’d me up a little better he he he
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Gee I hope Citizen Renegade refrains from abusing Obsidian’s id anymore by posting those unfair videos of pretty Estonian women singing songs. Obsidian might have a coronary heart attack with another day of hysterical response.
Obsidian’s id- “These white people must be made to feel diverisity is intergral to their happiness. Whites must not know they had their own happy countries just a few decades back. Whites must not know they really didn’t need anyone else to be prosperous. Whites must be made to praise diversity and their own genocide. Must attack any whites who comment approvingly on the attributes of Estonians and how attractive they are. Must destroy any mental notions of Estonia. Must destroy any mental notions of Estonia. Repeat. Repeat. Repeat.”
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Grampa
Re: Obsidian and such words as mulatto
We pale Americans are confused about what to call a person of color of African descent. Please understand that in the 1940′s, the proper term was “colored” for persons of African ancestry living in the USA. Calling someone black was offensive at that time. Blackness was considered a sign of inferior status. Think about the abbreviation, NAACP. Since then, there have been a several other terms considered proper.
“Black” was de rigor for a while, during the 1960′s and 1970′s when “black pride” was all the rage. Being “black” was “in.” “Colored” was considered offensive. I remember when Diana Ross was SO celebrated for being “black and beautiful” by a fawning press.
I thought the term “black” was nice. But, something happened to give “black” a bad connotation in the minds of some people. All those dreadful statistics and headlines were always preceded by “black”. You know, like:
Black Students Riot was a common headline.
Blacks Riots would occur in the Summer on a regular basis in Northern urban areas.
Black Crime Rates
Black Dropout Rates
Black Illegitimacy Rates
Black Unemployment Rates
So, they dropped “black” and started using Afro-American. But, even that became sullied by association (“Afro-American riot” comes off the tongue too easily, and they started calling some haircuts “Afros.”), so now we have African American. That is so long and awkward to say and write, that they use “black” when they publish those awful statistics, keeping the name African American free of such nasty connotation.
“African-American” seems to have caught on, but this causes great confusion because not all Africans in this country are American citizens. I feel awkward calling people Africans, but, I can’t tell always if they are citizens. This is a real problem in health care, where I work, because many blacks in health care are recent African or Caribbean immigrants. What would be the proper way to refer to their ethnicity?
I really think African Americans shouldn’t worry about words, whether they begin with n or not. They really have a lot of problem to solve, because, it is a sure thing that European Americans have lost their inclination to solve the myriad problems of African societies in this country and around the world. Don’t worry about what pale faces call you. That is irrelevant.
Granpa laid it out.
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Good!
[Editor: You do realize the irony of your jibe?]
O: You didn’t hear me stutter, boy!
[Editor: Do you know what the word rhetorical means?]
O: Do you know what the word stutter means?
[Ok, so you don’t know what the word rhetorical means.]
[Look, I know you’re just trolling for kicks. For whatever reason, you’ve decided to come here and do an exaggerated shuck and jive dance for the edification of whatever black power sistah is looming over your shoulder watching you type on your laptop. I get it, malcolm hex. If this phoneyfuck thug life schtick gets you laid with some 300 pound heifer throatily whispering FUCK MY BIG BLACK BOTTOM as the malt liquor stokes the flames of romance, then I totally understand your posturing. Who can resist a cape buffalo backing that ass up?]
O: My my, such passion, vim and vigor! Are we cross?
[Project much?]
[No one said black American culture is a void. But neither is it the “heart and soul” of America (and Japan!),
O: Wrong. As I’ve already noted to both your fanboys PA and Doug, the very idea of “Cool” came from Black folk, as did just about every major musical artform, starting with Blues, the progenitor of Rock n Roll. Soul, R&B, Gospel, Jazz and of course Hip Hop, all Black. No major pop star today can do well without, at some point, imbibing what is essentially Black art forms and styles. Fact.
[The “heart and soul” of America isn’t limited to music or pop stars. But I can see why you’d want to believe that it is.]
[and what black culture contributions there are came with a fuckload of shitty baggage, said baggage which you are gleefully embodying with your steez posing and inability to follow a logical argument.]
O: OK, so now yours is the epitome of reasoned thought and logical discourse, right? Ad Hominem, anyone? LOL. More, please!
[Sure. We can start with the FBI crime stats.]
[So you admit black men have no honor?]
O: What I’ll admit is that the only ones who talk a mean game about “honor” have never actually been in a real life firefight.
[Who said anything about a firefight? I simply pointed out to you that responding to a fist fight with gunfire is dishonorable, and you said blacks have good aim. Thus, you tacitly endorsed the accusation that blacks have no sense of honor.]
[Are you aware Japanese gun-related homicides are a tiny fraction of black American gun-related homicides?]
O: Are you aware of the fact that Japan has a much smaller population overall one, and two, has much more stringent gun laws in general?
[Japan population: 120 mil. Black America population: 30 mil.
You were saying?
PS Switzerland has guns up the wazoo, yet their gun-related crime rate is very low. Now what could possibly be the difference between a well-armed Switzerland and a well-armed American ghetto? The mind reels…]
And what does this have to do with the fact that the Yakuza are quite handy (pardon the pun) with a blade?
[Holy fuck you are an evasive little shit. The random violent crime rate in neighborhoods where Yakuza hang out is likely to be considerably lower that the rates found in the typical black American ghetto. Blade proficiency is irrelevant.]
[A dude walking through a black ghetto will have
a. a greater chance of getting assaulted and/or murdered, or
b. a lower chance of getting assaulted and/or murdered
than a dude walking through a Japanese neighborhood where Yakuza are known to hang out?]
if you’re Gaijin and walk through areas the Yakuza are known to control, you’re ass is grass. On the other hand, a Brotha has nothing to fear walking through Bed Stuy Brooklyn or the South Bronx, or on Z Street in the Chocolate City or New Orleans’ Lower Ninth Ward. You, being who you are on the hand…
[What’s that? A member of a different tribe you hate?
Proximity + diversity = war. You are living proof of that maxim. The US made a huge mistake letting your ingrate ass immigrate here.]
[If Japan’s economic stagnation is indicative of its lack of vibrancy, then what is homogeneous China’s incredible economic growth indicative of?]
O: Well, for one thing, China isn’t homogenous; it has several ethnic groups there that have been duking it out over the past few decades, at least.
[China is 90% Han. It is almost entirely racially and ethnically homogeneous. You are wrong yet again.]
Secondly, Japan has been economically stagnant for quite some time, in large part due to its way of doing things politically, of which corruption, a particularly Asian vice, plays a considerable role.
[First you claimed that Japan was stagnating because of its lack of vibrancy, aka racial diversity. After I called you out on your inanity, you now claim that it stagnates because of corruption, which is a particularly colorful form of true vibrancy. Which is it? Does Japan stagnate because it is monoracial, or because it is corrupt? If the former, you have to explain why largely monoracial China does not suffer the same economic stagnation. If the latter, you have to explain how importing non-Japanese into Japan would solve their corruption problem. And if you claim a connection between monoraciality and corruption, you have to explain why mostly monoracial countries of the sort that give you hives head the top of the list of countries with low corruption scores. If you insist in your charmlessly juvenile way on drawing a spurious parallel between monoraciality and corruption, you then have to explain how it isn’t a good idea for Europe, America, and Asia to flood, for example, highly corrupt West Africa with lots of non-black immigrants to improve their wretched economies.]
Next, we have to consider the fact that Japanese birth rates have been flat for years, and their marital rate has dropped like a stone, too. And that’s just the tip of the iceberg.
[Dropping birthrates and marital rates are irrelevant to “vibrancy”. If anything, more vibrancy may discourage the swamped majority from procreating.]
Trust me, Japan’s not gonna be a roaring tiger on the world stage anytime soon, China either for that matter. Both have major internal problems that preclude this from happening.
[I’ll take Japan’s major internal problems any day over Liberia’s major internal problems.]
Next question?
{Yes. Do trolls use the beach as a toilet?]
O.
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PRCalDude writes:
“Actually, you misunderstood the 90s gangster rap that you used to listen to try to find black authenticity living in white suburbs.
No one refers to guns as “hammers” in any song. They might refer to “banging hammers” as in “pulling the trigger of a gun,” but even they know (a lot) more about gun anatomy than you do.
Just admit it.”
O: Now you’re changing the goalposts, which is the first refuge of a Whitebread who can’t admit that he’s lost the debate. We were never discussing 90s era gangsta rap, P. I certainly wasn’t.
Where I come from, the term “hammer” is understood to mean “gun”. And if I was so inclined, I could probably find references to it as such on the rap recordings of known Philly acts, like Cassidy or Beanie Siegal or even The Roots. Just don’t feel like it right now, LOL.
Having said all that though, it should also be pointed out that it is quite possible for a semi-auto pistol to both have a slide and a hammer mechanism. Many such pistols do; .45s and 9mm Berettas immediately come to mind, for example.
Try again, son.
O.
PS: Never grew up in a lilly Whitebread burb. 😉
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@CR
This is part of the solution for Young Black Men. Ditch the shit culture.
[Editor: Genes have a nasty habit of getting in the way of shit culture ditching.]
I submit that genes obviously have something to do with it. Makes me a racist, I guess, but for particular reasons that shall go unnamed, I can’t pull a Gould and deny the stark evidence of biology. Circumstantial, maybe, but as I haven’t been into space, the evidence for the Earth orbiting the Sun is also more or less circumstantial for me, too. It would be perverse to deny its obvious truth, though.
Evolutionary biology practically demands that there be a significant difference between populations, though this may not be neatly consigned to what appear to be races. I suspect there’s a marked difference between west and east Africans, for example; and Congolese and south versus west. Also, the !kung and the non-Bantu cattle herders in the South don’t seem to have the same irreverent and self-destructive cultures that the Bantu speakers revel in.
I would suspect that racial diversity would maximize in Africa, despite the skin color. I also suspect that Austronesians and Dravidian/S. Indian types will be found to share a close genetic heritage, and that places like Papua New Guinea will turn out to be hugely racially diverse.
On the other hand, 3-8000 years of sedentary life in large state societies will have profoundly changed Eurasian populations. Again, assuming there’s the variation to begin with (which there is), natural selection has lots to work with.
If we see sub-saharan Africans as a root population, we find smart black people and what appears to be a genetic personality subset that seems perfect for permanent-war gatherer-hunter societies in non-marginal lands. Note the difference in behavior with the cattle-herders – who had a kind-of stored wealth and a very particular type of social requirement, maintained over 2500 years (pretty damned long, actually).
The transhumance herders of Europe show similar patterns: more clannish, more prone to inter-group violence on a low scale, difficulty integrating into state societies successfully. Might explain some of the diversity within certain European nations.
Many “civilized” states has self-selected urban cores and vast hinterlands where society was organized along very different lines: Urban China versus rural/tribal China, the Balkans as a prime example, the Middle East as an even better one.
CR, if you’re going to go the whole genetic route, you might as well toss off the last of the blinders and see how far you can run with it. Though I know you only care about your immediate environment.
In North America, the Mesoamericans remain a very different bunch: they don’t have the same cultural/social characteristics, even removed from their environments for several generations, as other Mexicans or Hispanics. They have as much of a history of settled, urban life as anyone in Europe, and it shows.
Not an attractive people, but there’s a qualitative difference between the Mayan groups and, say, the Indian peoples further south or north. The Mayans, even when removed from their culture, tend to be polite, receding, and frankly smarter than other native groups.
Might just be cultural attitudes. But if CR wants to take his thoughts to a logical extension, might be more than that. There’s 3-4000 years of selection going on there, too.
http://www.urbanprep.org/
Put these kids in schools and teach them up to the level they can get.
[Will Michelle Pfeiffer play the role of the white savior teacher in your fantasia?]
Throw in Julia Roberts for good measure. She needs to do something useful for once.
Some of them too stupid for college? Take them as high as they can go.
[Motivation matters.]
Does seem to be a problem. So cut off welfare, see what happens. Maybe a lifetime in prison will learn the ones who won’t even try.
The point of education used to be character, too. Instill some fucking character into these kids. Because they’re getting SFA now.
[Isn’t it interesting that all the talk is of instilling white cultural values into black kids and never black cultural values into white kids.]
Absolutely. Black cultural values don’t exist. Well, not black cultural values we’d want to emulate in a large, complex industrial society that makes severe demands of its citizens.
But we’ve got to live with these people. We’ve got to do something. Obviously, on their own, they’re just not going to. Oprah and race rage notwithstanding, they’re just not going to. Katrina proved it.
Old black grandmas know this all too well.
[Notably missing: old black grandfathers.]
Sad, isn’t it? There’s a stereotype or trope that just doesn’t click. It’s always an old black mamma. Makes us bleed.
Gorb, you gotta get off your culture uber alles kick. It’s blinding you to the realities of human nature.]
I never denied it: I can accept that there’s likely a 1.5 STDV in many relevant qualities between blacks and everyone else. The evidence of our eyes seems to make the case for that. That said, individual blacks can do well.
If they need what are, in effect, “cultural glasses” to help them step up – well, we need bricklayers, guys to do work for bosses, and entertainers, too. And those athletic genes are nothing to sneeze at.
But the point is: They’re here to stay.
I think you miss this point in your generalized pony ride down the social crapper (enjoying the ride as it makes its fascinating stops along the way):
We need to live with these people. We need to make it work. We actually have no choice.
The whole post-Civil War history has been white people trying to pretend blacks just don’t exist. And then pretending they’re the only people that exist.
We have to accept that they’re American, they’re here, they’re going to make everybody else’s lives better or shittier, and we have to make the best of it.
Getting them off welfare, off affirmative action, off all the leftist shit that we’ve poisoned them with would be step one.
Step two would be helping set up decent schools where they could toss out unscrupulous bastards.
Ste three: Get fucking nail-hard on crime: The criminal heads pop up, mercilessly smash the hammer down. Rule the inner cities like an occupying army. This is the Stick.
The carrot is the hand-up, not the hand-out. Make the carrot awfully attractive.
Look at Katrina. Blacks just can’t do it on their own. It’s observably true. The smart ones, the decent ones, the ones with a future get the fuck out, and they do fine. We can happily forget about them.
The rest have to at least be made not a hostile, psychopathically dangerous element of American society.
CR, we don’t really have a choice: or in 100 years, this chain around our necks will still be here.
It’s likely 50% culture/50% genes. We can’t help the genes. But we can get rid of the total piece of shit cultural attitudes that imprison lower class blacks.
What solution which we could actually do without turning into Nazi Germany would you propose?
* Note that in a properly functioning meritocracy where the poor don’t get shit from the state, anyone falling into crime gets arrested or killed, and the smart ones get out. We give them a hand up. We can put some selective pressure on poor people as a whole. Most of this pressure will fall on poor blacks, but why the hell not?
That’s Gorbachev the Eugenics fan. I don’t understand why eugenics is such a pissed-on idea. Makes perfect sense to me.
Look at China. But, of course, … China is fucking it up.
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PRCalDude writes:
P: Look, dude, real blacks are not like what you’ve learned about watching 70s blaxploitation movies. You make yourself look more like a wannabe Barack Obama black the more you talk.
O: Now you’ve asked me to read again what you originally wrote. Alrighty then-are you saying that you’re in a position to determine what is and is not, Black?
O.
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Gorb
Those are my thoughts when I see the gaming dens in Thailand and Indonesia. It’s a full frontal assault of WTF.
And the men often socialize in this same way, when not gaming. WTF.
There is a local guy here often inviting me over to his high end games room, to watch movies or play the games or drink with his buddies, or whatever. There are no women there.
…
No women.
WTF?
Sorry, it just seems pointless to me. Life is about money and sex.
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J. Marie 08/30/2010 at 8:23 pm | #90 Quote Seriously, Block That loser. I’ve been reading his post for one day and I’m ready to bang my head against a wall. He’s nothing more than a self-pity,”Mr. White Man is to blame” negro who spends his time reassuring himself that he does matter and chasing white women on message boards all while trying to “school” people on things he clearly knows nothing about.
Let us all just forget his immature, ad hominem attacks that shows his cowardly ways and lack of logic.
I understand Chucks case about being called a white boy. It’s unfair and immature. I say screw this negro and go around calling black men nigger boys. It’s all the same.
See how fast that want to be pro-black, “woe is me” bull negro starts writing blogs the length of books. (sadly they make no sense, I don’t even see how one can comment on a blog full of garbage.)
Just to add on, I think he’s jealous of white men. I’m sure he’s some nobody who drives buses or something.
@Obsidian
**yawn**
I’m a newbie commenting on this blog but I had to reply to obsidian. Honestly, all I see(or hear) is “wah wah wah”. You would think I’m reading a Charlie Brown cartoon.
If anyone here is the “loser”, it would be you. Your claims are so exaggerated and pathetic that one can only laugh at them. You make absolutely no sense and you lack the self control needed to take your emotions out fo equations and look at them with logic.
You claim that white females don’t like “racist” white men. Well guess what, most of those guys have wives!
Please stop being another house negro who hates “massah” but swears that massah wife loves her some negro.
End of the day white women are just as racist and prejuduice as white males. After all they do raise them,grow up in the same household as them and ultimately marry and produce kids with them.
I do highly doubt any of those guys will have a problem.
Seriously, you need to help brother. I actually feel bad for you, the anger you have to oozing through the page and I honestly don’t even understand why.
Why must you curse and insult people?
“Profanity is the sign of an ignorant mind trying to express it’s self”.
P.S.- Are you the same Obsidian71from the Whitewomenblackmen.com? I wonder if your from Seattle!?
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Dam you know the nig is up when white woman get tired of hearing the nigger shit. That was ownage.
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Have kids with white woman why not lol
You can only be made to pay a certain amount might as well have all the kids you can hahahahah
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@Dana,
yeah, Katrina was an all-black all-vicious disaster. Black media types tried to blame everyone but the people who caused it. One comment that made the rounds was absolutely true:
This would not have happened had the people been white. I know middle-class blacks who absolutely agreed with this.
NO wasn’t considered the apex of anything before Katrina, anyway, except crime and corruption. That’s always been true there.
But this showed to Asians I knew (I was in Asia) exactly what the US was all about.
(BTW, Obsidian, the most racist white person among these commenters has nothing on a normal, average Asian person. They don’t buy PC shit: They see with their eyes and vote with their feet. If a daughter brings home a black man, he’d better be a self-made millionaire with 3 advanced degrees from Harvard, and even then, it’s dodgy. You know that shit’s true, too.
And these Chinese and Koreans aren’t just whistling dixie. They’re on to something. White liberals may fall for the guilt trip. Asians, who don’t have even the smallest of cultural problems lower-class blacks do, have no guilt whatsoever. They don’t view these lower-class blacks as fully human. And that’s a readily testable observation. Hispanics aren’t far behind.
While white liberals make up a majority, though tenuous, blacks better start thinking about how they’re going to deal with the *real* racism staring at them right in the face. Abandon thug culture or face a new music coming down the pipes. Chinese and Koreans don’t make excuses, don’t tolerate crime, don’t believe PC lies and won’t make allowances. Just you wait.)
When I was in China, talking about the fallout from Katrina, one Chinese university prof said to me: The problem was that we took slaves, and the slave culture and the quality of the slaves was so low, there was no way to fix it without drastic steps today, which we were unwilling to take. First was not tolerating bad behavior among black people, and punishing it severely. Second was getting rid of all state support. Third was helping the good apples float to the top and helping them as much as possible, but not expecting too much.
Compared to the blacks in Africa, which he dealt with extensively, it seemed like American blacks suffered from bad ancestry. He mentioned that his time in America showed him that blacks in America and blacks in Africa were profoundly different. I’d note that he spent almost all his time in North-East Africa – Ethiopia, specifically.
I didn’t tell him that white American wasn’t exactly populated by the creme de la creme of Europe – but he had his own parallels. In China, there are minority groups that are similar to Gypsies – The Hakka are one – and there are strong racial ideas there, too.
China is quite racially diverse. They’re very used to coming to conclusions based on physical ancestry there. They were shocked when I told them that was anathema to liberal Americans.
He was fascinated by the profound success of white Americans / Canadians / Australians / NZers. He thought there was a tendency in all of these countries to think outside the box, because of the kind of people we selected for when the places were populated – adventurers, quacks, thinkers, etc. So he predicted that we had a broader bell-curve – more outliers.
He noted that while China has a large number of really smart people, the geniuses seem to still be Western, with a heavy focus on the Anglo countries. His theory: More low-end outliers, but more high-end outliers. I suggested it was Confucian culture that crushed original thinking in Asia, and he pointed out that China was as un-confucian as it gets; only Korea has a confucian outlook (this is true). The Japanese, he noted, actually think they’re genetically less creative.
I knew lots of artists in these places, but that says nothing about statistical trends. But the prof was only voicing what lots of Asians believe, and they believe these things based on long history.
So what do you think they think about black people? By comparison, white people aren’t racist at all. None of us.
And Asians aren’t going to make excuses or allowances. The more Asians we have, the more under assault all of these special privileges will be. Just watch.
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I should of had kids with every woman I dated when younger I would be able to populate a town already and be done with child support.
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this isn’t necessarily true. it’s easier to piss off the yakuza than you think, especially if you’re a foreigner. they don’t keep it in the group as much as say, the mafia or a black heroin community does.
doug,
while that’s true, it’s hard for half- or even quarter-black children to identify as anything other than black, the people obsidian is naming are the BEST POSSIBLE EXAMPLE OF THIS. i mean, really? like, do you think obama would be half as enticing if he were white? i mean, seriously? hell, if i wanted to be president, i’d definitely try to swing it so i was seen as black. srsly.
i see what you’re saying, i do, but this is like listing a bunch of black kids who got into harvard because of aa and being like, “these poor children were forced to identify as black and got into harvard because of it.”
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@xsplat
Sorry, it just seems pointless to me. Life is about money and sex.</I.
Yup.
God, I love distractions like this. I could never, ever do my job if I didn't have quality distractions.
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@CR
[Editor: I have yet to meet a regular jewish person IRL who wasn’t for open borders. Oh wait, I think I know one. One. Out of probably hundreds whose acquaintance I’ve known. Contra Gorb and Whiskey, Jews are very left wing, support left wing causes to the hilt, and generally hold a superiority complex vis a vis Gentiles.
It is what it is. Denying it only makes one look mendacious.]
CR, I know 4. That makes 6, assuming it’s not the same Jews.
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Gorb at gaming community in indo.
I saw mass gaing places in singapore but not indo.
You in indo now?
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lilgrl I still like asians don’t have to break out the pic he he he
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@gunslingergregi
Gorb at gaming community in indo.
I saw mass gaing places in singapore but not indo.
You in indo now?
No. States. Maybe soon. Got that beer in the fridge?
I notice that video game addictions are culture-wide now. Korean men have abandoned their women wholesale. You can get your pick of almost any hot chick you want. Half the men spend most of their time getting high off video games.
China: Same.
HK: Same, but they also need to make money. It’s HK, after all.
Singapore: You betcha.
Japan: They’re got whole classes and underclasses of men that barely ever emerge for air, let along anything called life.
No idea about Indo and Malaysia. I’m guessing no.
The same genes that seem to make NE Asians good with figures also seem to make them prone to asbergery stuff like playing video games.
Seriously, dudes, if you want your pick of hot women, and you don’t mind Asian ones, the young men of Asia have more or less given up and gone to permanent lala land.
If I was 22 and fresh out of college, I’d get myself the hell over to Asia toute de suite. This bonanza can’t last forever.
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Gorb: “No problem with your position, so long as you acknowledge that blacks are as American as you are, have every right to live here, and deserve a fair shake. They have every right to be your neighbors and share in the fruits of citizenship in the same country.”
So…you have no problem with my position so long as whites continue to be murdered and raped in astonishing numbers, dispossessed, discriminated against, and steadily reduced to minority status in white country after white country. Gee, thanks Gorb! I truly appreciate your cooperative spirit! Such generosity and kindness.
Gorb: “And Ryder, I still think you’re an asswipe for thinking that just because someone’s white, he’s a member of your tribe.”
That’s not my position. Is it being an asswipe to misrepresent others? Let’s put it this way: if you were in conflict with an angry black on the street, I’d support him. Not that he would need any help, I suspect, but still.
In fact, I’d love to get together with some of the brothers I know and drop you off in any one of many neighborhoods across town. Come check on you a few hours later. Make sure you tell them that you are against the awful white nationalists, that will surely impress. God that would be hilarious. So, as I think you can see, I don’t consider you part of the tribe.
Gorb: “Problem is for you, Ryder, these fair United States are home to black and white Americans – this is our native land now.”
Sounds nice, but leaves out the murder, rape and dispossession. Whites are under no obligation to be slaughtered and reduced to a tiny minority just to suit your kooky notions, Gorbo. You are free to live in a mixed environment if you want, and in fact if it were up to me you would be required to do so, as it is only fair that you live by your own words, instead of innocents that didn’t ask for it being slaughtered.
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Gorb: “White nationalists say it’s black people, ie, all of them. This is demonstrably untrue There’s potential for black Americans to be like their middle-class brothers.”
Gorb, honestly, you have no idea what you are talking about, but that doesn’t stop you from talking about it…endlessly. My position is not that all black people are terrible, far from it. You are simply lying to claim otherwise. But even these middle class blacks that you fawn over, they still look out for their own. They smile at the white, joke around at the office, but still vote overwhelmingly Democrat.
So do Asians, for crying out loud, even though they are disproportionately well educated and/or business owners. Why is that, Gorb? Why don’t they morph into white, middle class Republicans? Indians, dots not feathers, vote Democrat at almost the same rate as blacks. Think about that for a moment, if you are capable. Why is that?
Why is it that non-whites, even when they meet the Republican profile and have a privileged position in the country, still vote Democrat? Why do Jews?
I’ll answer, because you are too dense to get it or dishonest to acknowledge it: unlike what you claim, they don’t identify with normal European Americans. It doesn’t matter how successful they are. No matter the privileges that they get, the preferred admissions to elite universities, the set asides, this still holds true. You act like it’s cumbaya time, when in fact the opposite is true. But like a certain subset of dorks, you think that the black guy at the office who gives you the brother shake actually likes you. LOL! I guarantee that they laugh at you behind your back. Guarantee it.
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Just read the overnight comments. While I was getting bored with the discussion of the dysfunctional kind of lower class black culture (another reason to move to Eastern Europe because it doesn’t exist there), it was educational to learn FOR THE FIRST TIME about what apparently really happened during Katrina in the Superdome. The US media never said anything about this.
So thanx for the link, Dana, or whoever provided that. Its wrong that I wasn’t told about that by the media.
That said, I find western feminism a lot more of a reason to have moved permanently to Eastern Europe than lower class black culture…while the biggest reason I moved was because of the conservative US culture of telling young women not to date men over 35.
Reasons to move to Estonia (or at least visit 4x per year):
1) US white cultural animosity toward the idea of a 40 year old dating their 18 year old daughter. Since I probably won’t want to date the daughters of lower class Philly blacks, I’m more prone to want to combat the bad attitude of those whose grown daughters I am interested in.
2) US white feminist animosity toward the idea of any man their own age dating women much younger. I’ve always maintained that this is the “unequality” that rankles feminists the most.
3) In EE and Russia, there is almost no criminal lower class or group of “oppressed minorities” that take over the agenda of the left. I’ve never felt threatened by anyone except a possibly corrupt group of police. In Russia there are a 0.5% minority of Chechens to be concerned about, but the state has little tolerance on that issue. In Estonia…well Estonia is probably the most White Nationalist country on Earth (the pro-Hitler element is not so cool but there are fewer left wing women and no crime).
@Obsidian
You’ve shown that you have a problem with the entire “White Manosphere” not just those of us who would move or have moved to Eastern Europe or Russia or Asia.
You are correct that we haven’t changed laws like VAWA or IMBRA or busted the American Bar Association and its Divorce Industry…yet.
But the “Manosphere” of which smart black men are supposed to be a part, is only about 4 years old. It has only been in the past 4 years that the dinosaur MSM has finally started to collapse in conjunction with the rise of blogs like Roissy’s (which was at 3000 hits per day six months ago).
The serious discussion of game only started in the 00s and, with it, dies the pretty lie that women are equal to men. This pretty lie had caused more than a generation of American males to lose out on great sex thinking that women would let them know if they were interested based on the man just being himself.
Roissy is dead-on to attack feminism after the Republican Party, under the Bush Family, tried and succeeded to get conservatives to just accept it (neocons being the worst element).
But, Obsidian, I agree with you that we just aren’t doing enough to take over even the Tea Party to keep the “Grizzly Mamas” in line.
One of the reasons is that we need the black and hispanic male vote on our side.
We also should have the Jewish male vote.
You guys should at least be publicly shopping your votes so the wimpy male Democrat politicians won’t keep ignoring you and giving everything to feminists (against your interest as a black man).
Don’t be gender traitors. Side with men first. Drop all rhetoric that you know white feminists use to shame white men. Join the “Manosphere” that you are already a part of.
I’ve seen smart guys like you wake up and change.
I expect you will join us and stop fighting us.
@Alex Hardman
If you were standing at a table of hamburgers and hot dogs and you saw a group of guys across the pond eating lobster and salmon steak…you would seriously call them losers for not having had “game enough” to collect some of those hamburgers and hot dogs on your liberal side of the pond?
And who’s to say those guys hadn’t sampled a number of the best hamburgers before going across the pond for the lobster?
Roissy pwned Obsidian above regarding the feminist lack of logic in implying that a man who moves to EE somehow hasn’t or cannot date American hotties.
You can do both. You can date American and Estonian women. You can live six months in each country (banging American chix in Key West all winter and banging Baltic chix all summer).
So you think Estonian girls are not hot enough to travel for? Are you now dating 4 such women at once in the USA? If not, wouldn’t you rather have 4 such girlfriends in Estonia in a harem than one at a time in the US?
Not that its so easy to do, especially now that Scandinavian feminists are setting up shop in Tallinn (with US iVAWA funds soon to be sent to the new feminist organizations in the Baltics).
But remember EE women are politically conservative.
Do you think they’d date your liberal ass if you moved there?
I’ve seen EE women reject liberal American males for spewing political garbage in front of them.
Fuck you for repeating the feminist lie that staying in the US to date liberal women in serial monogamy makes a man better than another man who moves to Eastern Europe to date more than one at a time.
@Ryder
I temporarily joined Stormfront for a month a few years ago for one reason and one reason only:
White Nationalist males were White Knighting and hen-pecked by WN feminists and I wanted to expose that. American WN females had convinced Beta WN males to marry their hybrid asses out of a sense of patriotism to the USA, rather than do the logical thing which was to seek out better genetics.
I joined to get some of the assholes there to recognize that moving to a place like Estonia was EXACTLY what a smart White Nationalist male would do.
Life is short. Why NOT spend it where the white hotties are?
It is total bullshit to say you want to risk your life or waste your life trying to make the USA a “white paradise” like Estonia.
That horse has already left the barn.
If you want a white homogenous society, move to EE. Obsidian is actually correct about that…the problem with Obsidian is that he wants to use feminist/racist shaming language about guys like me who would or have done that (for non-racial reasons).
White caucasian American feminists believe that slavic women (and Asian women) are inferior to them. Obsidian dutifully follows suit in believing that as well. But then so do some clueless White Nationalist males.
Over at Stormfront, there were assholes who agreed with the US feminist IMBRA law because they didn’t think white American males should breed with Slavic women. WTF?
And then there were the assholes who thought it OK for gorgeous foreign women to be racist against us American guys!
You’d be OK with a Japanese dude not wanting you to fuck his sister because of your race?
That’s fucked up Beta thinking, not White Nationalism.
A White Nationalist male would consider his DNA to be valuable to every woman on Earth and wouldn’t encourage women of any race to think otherwise even if he’s not interested in women of a particular race.
On the idea that white American men should not want to mate with Slavic women (or that their brothers should not want their sisters mating with American hybrids) I helped get some smart guys on Stormfront to say WTF and argue the opposite. I also got a few guys to agree that there is NEVER an excuse for White Nationalists to agree with western feminists, who clearly don’t want American men mixing with Slavic women.
White Nationalists need to get with the program of what Obsidian calls the “White Manosphere” just as much as Obsidian, himself, needs to join us to make “Men” a political force again in the US.
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Seriously, if a Japanese male “friend” had a hot sister and let me know he disapproved of me sleeping with her because of my race…he wouldn’t be a friend anymore (I might pretend to still be his friend while I maneuvered with his sister).
re: the discussion about Asian men not competing for their own women, note that Estonian and other EE males are now brutal competition and you’ll see many 10s with a muscular guy her own age in EE now. Russian men know about game and now make brutal competitors. The easy time for American men ended about 6 years ago. Incidentally, virtually zero Russian and EE women are joining those marriage agencies now.
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@ Obsidian. O, you can call it a pipedream if you like, but if you seriously imagine that the status quo is going to hold up indefinitely, I would suggest that it is you that lives in a fantasy land. Things are going to change, one way or another. I’m just the messenger. Deep down, I think you realize that the center will not hold, which might explain part of your growing agitation. Also, if you haven’t already, you should read Tupac’s post above. He nails it, real truth style.
Even if my side loses out in the coming years (which we won’t), the black man’s strutting privileges will be revoked soon enough. All roads point to it. Hernandez is a different sort of critter, and he doesn’t like you in the least. And if he won’t do it, Som Dum Fuk will. Truth.
@Gorb. Geez, Gorb, the hits just keep on coming. This is great:
Gorb: “BTW, Obsidian, the most racist white person among these commenters has nothing on a normal, average Asian person. They don’t buy PC shit: They see with their eyes and vote with their feet. If a daughter brings home a black man, he’d better be a self-made millionaire with 3 advanced degrees from Harvard, and even then, it’s dodgy. You know that shit’s true, too.
And these Chinese and Koreans aren’t just whistling dixie. They’re on to something. White liberals may fall for the guilt trip. Asians, who don’t have even the smallest of cultural problems lower-class blacks do, have no guilt whatsoever.”
But wait, I thought that people who felt that way were stupid, retarded, and ignorant? I’m confused.
Let me work through my confusion. When whites seek to defend their homelands, they are evil, retarded and stupid. Have I got that right? When non-whites do it, on the other hand, they are just the bomb. Heavy shit, man.
You reveal yourself as nothing but an anti-white hack, Gorbo, of course posturing as something else. Either that, or you simply have a screw loose. The running theme in your odd commentary seems to be criticizing political correctness, while at the same time insisting that everyone accept the fundamental core values of…political correctness. You go apeshit when these are threatened. That’s your schtick: mix in enough truth so that the lies will pass unnoticed, or so you hope. Throw in a little red meat for the goyim, but make sure they don’t truly get out of line. Either that, or it’s just garden variety cowardice: it’s socially acceptable to insult whites, non-whites not so much. Very brave!
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Jerry: “Seriously, if a Japanese male “friend” had a hot sister and let me know he disapproved of me sleeping with her because of my race…he wouldn’t be a friend anymore (I might pretend to still be his friend while I maneuvered with his sister).”
If you can’t respect his heritage and family line, then he should break the friendship with you, not the other way around. Since you don’t understand the most elementary level of respect, what you write in the parenthetical is not surprising at all, as that is the nasty reality of politically correct types.
So nice and kind, they are! Trustworthy and generous to a fault!
Seriously, has anyone ever known a politically correct male (particularly a white male), that wasn’t, at root, a dishonest and sneaky little shit? I haven’t. The only reasonable response is to shun them like the plague.
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@Ryder
You’re going into serious Beta territory there.
Evolutionary biology shows that those who won’t let the Alphas mate with their sisters, don’t live to reproduce.
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I mean seriously, if an Alpha wants to fuck a beautiful woman, her fucking “heritage” or “family line” means fuck all.
He should be able to game her and it should be her decision what she does with him. Anyone trying to cockblock the Alpha white male is an enemy of the Alpha white male.
That includes feminists, the misguided White Nationalists they’ve indoctrinated, Islamists, nationalist Israelis or Japanese who didn’t learn their lesson in WW2.
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At least Obsidian isn’t saying white Alphas shouldn’t pursue those they want to fuck at any given time . Obsidian is just illogically saying that those who travel to do so are “losers” (his logic may make sense for him in that it wouldn’t be wise for him to spend his life savings for one visit to Estonia).
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In a long comment in moderation, I mentioned how the most asinine thing about many of the pussy-whipped “males” at Stormfront is that they would say with a straight face that the beautiful white Estonian women in the videos above should be told by their brothers and fathers NOT to mate with white American males of British/Irish or even Germanic heritage because we’d be polluting *them*. This self-defeating logic is in the interest of older American & British WN females, not males.
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@ Ryder
Why is it that non-whites, even when they meet the Republican profile and have a privileged position in the country, still vote Democrat? Why do Jews?
I’ll answer, because you are too dense to get it or dishonest to acknowledge it: unlike what you claim, they don’t identify with normal European Americans.
That is not an explanation. That may be an observation but it does not address why they vote democrats (socialists and commies, let’s not beat around bushes), e.g. against their own interest. Republican are not inherently a European Americans’ party.
So… why?
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@Ryder
It is actually “politically correct” for an Alpha to “respect” any fucking prejudices against American men.
That is what a bleeding heart liberal American man would do if traveling in a foreign country. An Alpha would try to get laid with the best looking women.
I noticed in Turkey that the 9s and 10s weren’t available to non-Muslims (while 7s were allowed to go for us).
Part of the onus for the War on Terror is to kill those who feel that Arab women should be reserved only for Arab men. Al Qaeda literature actually stated around 9/11 that Muslim men should claim all of Europe’s women. After the 9/11 attacks, European white women *were* sleeping more often with Arabs than usual. So were white American college girls.
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An American sissy in Tokyo:
“Oh golly gee…my friend doesn’t want me to touch his hot sister who’s been flirting with me. I am going to respect my friend and his family by not touching her back. Golly gee willickers. She gave me a woody. Chop chop. Ouch. Well now I won’t be interested in her anymore. Thank goodness. I’d do anything to keep the respect of my Japanese male buddy.”
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I can’t believe you’re still trying to make this fail of an analogy happen. Bonus question, Jerry:
Who is more likely to drive a Porsche?
1) A young Alpha who’s good with the ladies
2) An old wannabe whose only asset is cash MONEY and who needs desperately to advertise this to golddiggers
Boom. Headshot.
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I can’t believe you’re still trying to make this fail of an analogy happen. Bonus question:
Who is most likely to drive a Porsche?
A) A guy who is good at driving
B) A guy who is good with women
C) A guy who is old but who has a lot of money and needs to advertise this boon to golddiggers
Hint: It’s C.
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@Esteri
You’re a snotty little British feminist arriving to show that misguided white nationalist males and misguided black American males are not the real enemy of the white male. @Ryder and @Obsidan: meet your real enemy.
As usual, Esteri, your nitpicking a minor reference that had nothing to do with the point being made, which was that EE women were the Porsches to the Philadelphia women = Ford Escorts. Your Marxist notion that its bad for rich older men to mate with young women are duly noted, however. Good luck when the poor guy your own age trades up in 10 years when he gets successful.
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@Esteri
If you’re really 21, I just noted the Internet photo archive of a former American feminist girlfriend who was 22 when we parted. She was a 9 for 2.5 years after that…coinciding with her marriage to a guy her own age. She started getting fat after the marriage at age 26 and now she’d be a 4 on a good day. She is now 29. The husband has improved vastly in appearance and will reach his peak in another 15 years. The photos show the marriage is doomed. Feminism and its ingrained hatred of older males is doing that to young women on a macro level. (Another way that Obsidian mimics feminists is his use of “old” as an insult to the guys on this blog).
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Your Marxist notion that its bad for rich older men to mate with young women are duly noted, however
Jerry, what do you propose that said young women do, if they actually want at least a few years of sex that’s actually good? I.e., not with some geriatric fool who thinks he’s a “Porsche driver”.
I mean, you’re old to start with, and you’re the same guy who wants polygamous wives. So they get sex, what, once a week from you, for ten minutes?
Hope they have virile fuck buddies on the side. Maybe those fuck buddies will be brown or black guys, just to make you extra happy.
Oh, and, by the way, consider the set of good ol’ boys who actually know how to drive a Porsche the way that a race car is supposed to be driven. Do you think those boys’ daily driver is more likely to be a:
* Ford,
* Porsche?
Probably a Ford.
But I bet you think you don’t even have to learn to fuck right, because you have a few bucks in your wallet.
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Jerry,
You’re so absurdly dumb that you can’t really be anything other than a joke poster.
First of all, I’m not British–why do you keep accusing everyone of being from the UK? Is it because you’re British? That would explain a lot (*cough* gay *cough*).
If anything, you should have at least pegged me as American, which I’m not.
As usual, Jerry, you’re failing to pick up on the fact that I wasn’t nitpicking, I was making fun of you for being a retarded dumbass. NO WHERE did I say that it is bad for rich older men to do whatever the fuck they want with younger women.
In fact, go crazy with the younger women. But dear god, please don’t knock them up. The last thing this world needs is anyone who shares your genes to continue past your generation.
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@Esteri
You always pretend not to have a problem with what this blog is about. It is your fall back position and a good tactic on such blogs where you can make an ad hominem attack on the one who threatens your world view the most while pretending not to be a general troll. You are @Audrey or she’s your roommate as the two are always together. She’s also got a problem with the idea of rich men dating younger women (I never said I was rich) and just used the lame feminist argument that older guys can’t satisfy young women sexually.
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@Esteri
Also, if you haven’t noticed, this blog is for intellectuals and not those who feel the need to say “You’re stupid” as an argument.
The 7:1 ratio we “argued” about last month is a well known figure used by East European and American men referring to the perceived amount of hotties walking around any given East European city compared to the amount of hotties a man would see in a West European or American city. It had nothing to do with an official female: ratio which would hover at 1:1.
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@Audrey
Caught in moderation is an explanation of how quickly real life early 20s women can turn into fat 30 year olds. It is more in the interest of a young woman NOT to marry men their own age than the other way around. Ageism won’t give you a lifetime of good sex. Sex and the City is a fairy tale. In real life, I and other 30 something males IGNORED that crowd in New York City in order to date the Columbia and NYU students. A show depicting real life would be “Cats and the City” depicting how those women cuddled their cats and what cat food they were buying this week.
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Jerry,
Actually the ONLY “person” I have an issue with on this blog is you. I say “person” because I’m still not convinced that you aren’t a huge joke.
I don’t think everyone on here is stupid–quite the opposite, actually. But you and one other (female) commenter are two of the dumbest people that I hope don’t actually exist in real life.
What I recall about our argument last month: basically everyone agreed that I OWNED your ass.
As for Audrey, I think she’s American? I’m not sure. You sure are a failure at figuring out where people are from. Why don’t you ask her.
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Jerry says, “She’s also got a problem with the idea of rich men dating younger women (I never said I was rich) and just used the lame feminist argument that older guys can’t satisfy young women sexually.”
Me <—- living example of younger woman whose old dude aged out of sex.
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Don’t get me wrong, Jerry. I love my husband more than my own life, but before you marry a much younger woman, you should think about whether or not she’s mature enough to handle the idea of living without sex with you once you age out. It could happen at 70 or 90, but often happens at 45-50.
It’s not that you won’t be able to get an erection. It’s that you won’t get a strong enough erection to penetrate a very tight pussy.
This is why my husband’s girlfriend is a 45 year old woman who’s had 4 kids. The few times a year when they can actually have sex, she’s loose enough to accomodate him.
I, on the other hand, require a diamond cutter.
The day may or may not come when you won’t be able to produce one without drugs. You going to doom her to a life of celibacy, or allow her the freedom to get her needs met?
Something to think about…
If I was an old player, I wouldn’t do LTR’s. I can take it, but most women I know would leave.
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@Esteri
No. You are referring to the polygamy discussion where Gorby and PA and Chiguy gave a better reason against polygamy than you did (you didn’t give any). They said it would not be good for the general welfare because the have-not males would become terrorists. I was in a rush to leave for the weekend so I didn’t make counterparts to that.
Chiguy then threw you over the backburner for nitpicking me like an airport security guard on a throwaway comment I made about young women trained to have white guilt.
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@Esteri
No. On that Friday, Gorby and PA and Chiguy “won” an argument against me regarding polygamy, saying that the have-not males would become terrorists. I had a weekend date and didn’t argue. Chiguy then roasted you over the coals for nitpicking me on an irrelevant issue.
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@Nicole
It hasn’t become an issue and damned if men are going to want anyone spreading around the idea that women shouldn’t date older men because of that. I’ve heard lots of stories of impotent Alphas keeping women including a young war veteran who’d lost the ability to have sex.
@Esteri
I guess its an honor if a feminist singled me out as the one on this blog she hates. I don’t veer much from what Roissy says, however and that posting had shown respect for polygamy (Gorby, PA and Chiguy were disagreeing with the post and not just me). Its a good feminist tactic to attack ad hominem of course.
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“I had a weekend date and didn’t argue.”
–> Weekend date! Did you take her to Scotland because she did’nt put out the first time? lol!
So, Jerry, feminism or no feminism, how often would you actually be able to have sex with these wonderful polygamous wives ??
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“I had a weekend date and didn’t argue.”
–> Did you take her to Scotland because she did’nt put out the first time? Lol
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I never argued that polygamy is bad because it will make have-not males become terrorists. I’ve argued that polygamy is bad because it is barbaric and will lead to instability, both social and intra-family.
Jerry, you give too much credit to feminists. I don’t think they are principal actors. They are puppets / useful idiots of people higher up.
Real feminism is a lesbian liberation movement, a fringe ideology with a very narrow, niche appeal. But it’s been co-opted and marketed to straight women by the corporate-political complex for their own ends.
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Also, polygamy bottlenecks the gene pool at wealthy males, causing inbreeding and a stifling, Confucian sort of conservatism.
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@Audrey
I wouldn’t marry anyone. I was arguing on that day that if we legalize gay marriage, we will have to legalize polygamy. It already is legal to do both without the state condoning it and certifiying it. Polygamists in the USA only get arrested when they push the envelop on underage sex.
Once per day sex is normal for a man 45-60 and a lack of sex is only noticeable to a woman if the man has two dates on one day. It isn’t an issue. What is an issue is that only the best looking young women can get it up. That’s scary, yes, but right now its a problem for the less good looking women.
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they would say with a straight face that the beautiful white Estonian women in the videos above should be told by their brothers and fathers NOT to mate with white American males of British/Irish or even Germanic heritage because we’d be polluting *them*
Are you argung that beautiful Estonain women *should* be sleeping with European foreigners?
Well, as far as I’m concerned, they all should be sleeping with ME. All the girls at that stadium. Especially the girl with flowers in her hair at forty-four sec. mark. The blonde lead singer (who looks like a chick I banged seventeen years ago) after her.
However, I also recognize that no moral / ethical system on the planet, in the history of humanity, advocated anything like ‘sleeping around’ be it with foreigners or native men. All ethical systems regulate sex via some form of marriage toward the end of family formation and social stability.
The sleeping around, the pick-up artistry that CR coaches, that’s opportunism and something our Western heritage leaves some room for, provided there is some discretion and practice of hypocrisy paying homage to virtue.
Your arguments, on the other hand, assume that sleeping with Estonian virgins is an ethical right, not somethign you can sneak in, have fun with, or get away with in a tolerant society.
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@PA
I agree that the real problem is people higher up than the feminists, who are what Lenin called полезные идиоты. GBFM knows that. It wasn’t an accident that the media, before its current downfall, was almost 100% against Roissy’s worldview.
Official polygamy is no more necessary than state sponsored gay marriage. MLTRs, however, are good for some individual men and women.
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I generally don’t take Jerry’s comments too seriously, although occasionally he does say something interesting. I get the impression he doesn’t like the fact that women do need men for way more than just sex. He almost seems to despise us for that.
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@Laura
That was a curve ball from left field. A point I just made was that young women in an MLTR are *not* into how many times the man can have sex per day and more into how they mutually pay attention to each other otherwise.
Audrey’s point about women thinking about potential impotence was a red herring…used by feminists, especially cougar feminists, to help in the propaganda older women make to younger women not to date older men.
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@Laura
If you ever disagree, just pipe right on in. There’s never been anywhere that I’ve shown misogyny to my knowledge and I’ve mostly never disagreed with you.
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Okay. I didn’t get into the argument about whether an older man can satisfy a much younger woman because I don’t really know or care that much. Women don’t really get married for sex anyway.
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@Laura
Agreed. For women, there are many factors beyond the status of his now and future potence that influence whether a woman wants to date/sleep with a man or not. Game being one of them.
I’ve NEVER seen a young woman reject an older man for casual sex because she felt he might get impotent in the process. I’ve never heard about a young woman making the decision not to date an older man speciifically because of the potential impotence issue. Even then, it would be because of ideological conditioning or because the man was simply unattractive or out of shape.
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@Jerry- I’d agree.
1) Women are not as sexual as men. Having a dude with a lower libido (who is still alpha in status) might be beneficial to a women in two ways: a) she can be left alone sometimes b) makes him less of a poonhound
2) There’s tons of pills for that
However if he LOOKED impotent, like a skeezy little beta (nerd aside; aren’t the Farangi from TNG the biggest betas ever?) then I’d say that would play into him not getting any. But it’s perception more than reality.
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@Morsellaux
SHOUT OUT. I recently blogged on the decline of waist to hip ratio….do you have any clues as to why women have less of a contrast now?
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That these researches should be included in a work devoted to the characterology of the sexes may seem an undue extension of my subject. But some reflection will lead to the surprising result that Judaism is saturated with femininity, with precisely those qualities the essence of which I have shown to be in the strongest opposition to the male nature. It would not be difficult to make a case for the view that the Jew is more saturated with femininity than the Aryan, to such an extent that the most manly Jew is more feminine than the least manly Aryan.
The true conception of the State is foreign to the Jew, because he, like the woman, is wanting in personality; his failure to grasp the idea of true society is due to his lack
of free intelligible ego. Like women, Jews tend to adhere together, but they do not associate as free independent individuals mutually respecting each other’s
individuality.
As there is no real dignity in women, so what is meant by the word “gentleman” does not exist amongst the Jews. The genuine Jew fails in this innate good breeding
by which alone individuals honour their own individuality and respect that of others. There is no Jewish nobility, and this is the more surprising as Jewish pedigrees can be traced back for thousands of years.
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So also in the case of the woman; it is easier for her defenders to point to the infrequency of her commission of serious crimes to prove her intrinsic morality.
There is no female devil, and no female angel; only love, with its blind aversion from actuality, sees in woman a heavenly nature, and only hate sees in her a prodigy of
wickedness. Greatness is absent from the nature of the woman and the Jew, the greatness of morality, or the greatness of evil.
In the Aryan man, the good and bad principles of Kant’s religious philosophy are ever present, ever in strife. In the Jew and the woman, good and evil are not distinct from one another.
Jews, then, do not live as free, self-governing individuals, choosing between virtue and vice in the Aryan fashion. They are a mere collection of similar individuals each
cast in the same mould, the whole forming as it were a continuous plasmodium.
The Antisemite has often thought of this as a defensive and aggressive union, and has formulated the conception of a Jewish “solidarity.” There is deep confusion here.
When some accusation is made against some unknown member of the Jewish race, all Jews secretly take the part of the accused, and wish, hope for, and seek to establish
his innocence. But it must not be thought that they are interesting themselves more in the fate of the individual Jew than they would do in the case of an individual
Christian. It is the menace to Judaism in general, the fear that the shameful shadow may do harm to Judaism as a whole, which is the origin of the apparent feeling of
sympathy.
In the same way, women are delighted when a member of their sex is depreciated, and will themselves assist, until the proceeding seems to throw a disadvantageous light over the sex in general, so frightening men from marriage.
The race or sex alone is defended, not the individual.
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@dream puppy,
WTH ratio… Maybe some clues, but let me take a rain check to think it through. Work calls, so this has to be simmering on a back burner.
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This is priceless:
A new British study finds that strippers make as much as lawyers, are often enough educated as much as lawyers, are happy about their jobs (aren’t exploited) and make more money when they are ovulating:
http://theweek.com/article/index/206640/5-surprising-facts-about-strippers
Even more priceless is the British feminist responding to the study with “unease” saying she can no longer say the women are being exploited but she “still doesn’t know why she doesn’t like lapdancing”:
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/katy-guest-lap-dancing-is-seedy-ndash-but-its-hard-to-say-why-2064794.html
Placing bets at 10 to 1 that this *will* be the subject of an upcoming Roissy post.
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””Gorb: “BTW, Obsidian, the most racist white person among these commenters has nothing on a normal, average Asian person. They don’t buy PC shit: They see with their eyes and vote with their feet. If a daughter brings home a black man, he’d better be a self-made millionaire with 3 advanced degrees from Harvard, and even then, it’s dodgy. You know that shit’s true, too.
And these Chinese and Koreans aren’t just whistling dixie. They’re on to something. White liberals may fall for the guilt trip. Asians, who don’t have even the smallest of cultural problems lower-class blacks do, have no guilt whatsoever.”
But wait, I thought that people who felt that way were stupid, retarded, and ignorant? I’m confused.
Let me work through my confusion. When whites seek to defend their homelands, they are evil, retarded and stupid. Have I got that right? When non-whites do it, on the other hand, they are just the bomb. Heavy shit, man.
You reveal yourself as nothing but an anti-white hack, Gorbo, of course posturing as something else. Either that, or you simply have a screw loose. The running theme in your odd commentary seems to be criticizing political correctness, while at the same time insisting that everyone accept the fundamental core values of…political correctness. You go apeshit when these are threatened. That’s your schtick: mix in enough truth so that the lies will pass unnoticed, or so you hope. Throw in a little red meat for the goyim, but make sure they don’t truly get out of line. Either that, or it’s just garden variety cowardice: it’s socially acceptable to insult whites, non-whites not so much. Very brave!
””””””
Ryder owns dam.
Name interesting shit.
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@ namae nanka
Interesting take, but I think it is not something that is innate to Jews. The complex path that Jews traveled in the last 2 millennia may have impressed cultural patterns that selected the best fitting behavior for a set of external circumstances.
But go to Israel and a different pattern is emerging for the last 60 years. Mugged by reality on a daily basis, Israely Jews had to adapt. The Massada paradigm that held its grip for 2 millennia is no longer fashionable. The current animus takes a root in far more remote past–time of Solomon when Jews still could connect to their original warrior spirit.
I am not worried about alpha-ness of Israelis, at least a sizable segment of them. It is not them that are on a path of a kool-aid suicide.
Speaking of a warrior spirit—look at what happened to Vikings, their descendants seem to be keen to get their Stockholm Syndrome in spades.
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@PA
No, I agree with you that all those Estonian virgins should be sleeping with just me. 😉
No right assumed for a man to sleep with anyone.
However, if an Estonian brother told me he was against my dating his sister because I was not of “pure Estonian ancestry,” he’d be nobody to me but a nuisance.
And Estonia is a hotbed of neo-Nazi ideology where many say they didn’t want to be rescued from the Wehrmacht by the Red Army.
As someone with family in East Europe, you are surely aware that there is some nationalistic backlash toward the idea of any given country’s women sleeping/mating with foreigners, including Americans of British or European descent.
Thankfully, only an (albeit significant) minority of the young women take this nationalistic idea to heart, but I experience it often enough. Obviously, I can’t argue to nationalistic women that it is my right as an American to date them. I have to appeal to common sense (and game).
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This dude fucking owns.
This is the same type of shit I tried to explain to obsidian lol
This dude be saying what I been telling blacks lol
Morsellaux this black dude from harlem owning shit.
he he he
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Eastern Euro girls ae not all angels….
Croatian girl throws six puppies in river
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/animal_lovers_launch_online_search_0r8KEK0vIQMlkkS116P4eN
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Swedes and Norwegians, that is. Danes seem to have some of the Viking spirit left. Maybe because they were mugged by reality not that far in the past.
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above is on affirmative action.
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Morsellaux
not my take, but a jew’s(who converted), at the start of the previous century.
“Speaking of a warrior spirit—look at what happened to Vikings, their descendants seem to be keen to get their Stockholm Syndrome in spades.”
the timeline for change is outright scary, so much in so little (not talking of vikings of course, but like the japanese herbs)
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Gun, yea, Manning… he sees through all teh shite.
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from that puppy throwing bitch article:
“shocking video” haha
doing it with rats was fun though, especially when you got them by the tails.
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Jerry,
It just doesn’t make sense that Estonian men would let you come into their country and instantly have higher status than they do. As far as Estonian women, very likely they do prefer Estonian men. It is men that seem to like exotic women. I generally always liked the type of men I grew up with.
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Silver Fox, maybe no animal clinic around to put them to “sleep”, or not enough money to “fix” her bitch.
I would be concerned if she roasted them slowly over an open fire, though to a Korean, that may seem quite natural. 😉
Drowning excess litter is a common practice in non-PETA ruled areas.
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@Laura said “It is men that seem to like exotic women.”
I do not think EE women could be described as exotic. They are the same race, and sometimes ethnicity as most of the white guys going over to try to game them.
I think men like beautiful, thin, and feminine women. It is just that exotic women (Asian, Arab, to a degree Latin) seem to fit the bill a lot more than the masculine overweight women that populate North America.
If American women were thin, pretty and feminine we wouldn’t have this sort of exodus or such a strong penchant for the ‘exotic.’
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@namae nanka
Why DemocRats don’t have a tail? … sigh.
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I wouldn’t really describe them as exotic either, although I think their culture is different from ours. I just wonder if an Estonian woman would prefer an American man to an Estonian man. American women really need to get it together. We are becoming the least desirable women in the world.
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”””’Laura
I wouldn’t really describe them as exotic either, although I think their culture is different from ours. I just wonder if an Estonian woman would prefer an American man to an Estonian man. American women really need to get it together. We are becoming the least desirable women in the world.
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Foreign woman like american guys they here american guys treat woman the best lol
Woman in us just take it for granted.
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@dream puppy
The thinness needs some qualification. When Twiggy was introduced in late 60 (by gay fashion designers, who else in their right mind would come with something like that when one could drool over Brigitte Bardot, Raquel Welsh and likes), it skewed a perception of what a female is supposed to look like. Curves (not excess fat) were out, boney, limbey frame was in. It is still noticeable trend, though not in such an extreme. The “teenage” boyish look.
Maybe there is a partial answer to your question. It is not that the WTH ratio has changed, but what you see in the arbiters of feminine beauty is not reflecting the reality.
There is another factor. Neoteny (extended period of youth before maturing, which is a selection for the past two generations). So, you may see more boney, limbey young ladies that would have been closer to the ideal if they had a tad of padding, but the extension is not transferring beyond a certain point–once they hit the wall they turn into fatties with michelin type of segmentation whence you’d have a hard time to locate the actual waist.
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””’If American women were thin, pretty and feminine we wouldn’t have this sort of exodus or such a strong penchant for the ‘exotic.’””’
Well not really you still have to get past the fact that us woman are made weaker by affirmative action and coddling and of course being treated well by american men lol
Then it is really really hard to think about marrying an american chick when you saw dad raped by system.
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Doesn’t matter what she looks like.
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fatties with michelin type of segmentation whence you’d have a hard time to locate the actual waist.
Is there a Czech equivalent of the saying “Łatwiej ją przeskoczyć niż obejść” ? (It’s easer to jump over her than walk around her)
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Don’t worry too much though chinese men at some point when they get loot will probably start trolling america for blonds once they get a saturation point of loot.
And american woman will be thinner since they won’t have the money lol
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@dream puppy
BTW, if you visit some soft porn sites (nudes), most of the ladies featured are EE (predominantly Czech, not entirely sure why, but they sure are yummy, followed by Ukrainians and Russians), you’d see mostly “thin” women that are padded “right” and that reflects in the closer-to-ideal WTH ratio. Pr0n providers certainly know what men are looking for. Forget fashion mags.
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What white woman don’t maybe realize is that every woman in every culture in the world wants a white man.
And white men compared to the rest of the world are an extreme minority.
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predominantly Czech, not entirely sure why
Prague juts out very far west. so it’s closer to western Europe maybe.
There are also cultural arguments that Catholic in eastern europe (PL, SK, western UA, LT, HR, HU) tend to be most culturally conservative, with Orthodox (RU, SRB, eastern UA) and Protestant (LV, ES) less so, and defacto atheist CZ most libertine.
Of course those woudl work inthe aggregate, and not account for individual cases.
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And by wants a white man I mean wants to have his children.
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PA,
Sure: Přeskočit ji je snazší než obejít.
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“Why DemocRats don’t have a tail? … sigh.”
because they spin so fast on their own shit that you don’t need a tail to spin them before throwing them in a river.
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@Gorbachev
Remember that Jewish culture evolved in environments where they were a minority, and any Jew who fought back against harassment by a member of the majority might invite a pogrom to burn down the whole Jewish neighborhood.
So Jewish moms did NOT want their kids growing up aggressive.
Israeli guys are WAY different. Particularly those who have served in the IDF. They take NO shit from anybody, at least the ones I know.
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@namae nanka
I know. I just had this fantasy holding them at the tail and saying “squeel”, before a throw.
However, being a Czech by birth, I have to admit that I have a strong cultural affinity towards defenestrations.
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“However, being a Czech by birth, I have to admit that I have a strong cultural affinity towards defenestrations.”
My grandpa had them too, too bad(or good) my father doesn’t, and I am unsure myself.
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@Morsellaux selection bias was also why I think there is a trend towards more striaght up and down figures. However I think there are other issues at bay. I can’t think that since HFCS and other crap (including plastics) has been added to our way of eating our bodies have been slightly altered.
I am half EE (alas not blonde 😦 and yes, all my family from that side are slim-ish with a bit of padding. I am currently trying to discard some of that padding 🙂 but not all 😀
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Course white woman a valued commodity as well.
So I guess we must be getting with each other for the most part eh.
I am still gonna have white woman in my family now that I figured out how to do it.
Or I could be wrong wtf
This can’t be right.
http://www.shusterman.com/greencardsthroughmarriage.html
”””””’Each year, over 400,000 citizens of the United States marry foreign-born persons and petition for them to obtain permanent residence in the U.S. Spouses of U.S. citizens are considered “immediate relatives” under the immigration laws, and are exempt from all numerical quota limitations. In other words, marriage to a U.S. citizen is the fast lane to a green card. ”””””””’
2 Dechttp://www.google.com/search?q=total+marriages+in+america+per+year+2009&rls=com.microsoft:en-us&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1; 2009 … Number of marriages: 2162000
Total marriages in 2009
So 19 percent of us marriages are to foreigners.
Holy shit no wonder they trying to stop it lol.
It is main artery that can’t be stitched.
Can someone else check that stat.
I was looking and it just doesn’t seem posible that 19 percent of all marriages foreign. I could find any other numbers though.
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So 19 percent of us marriages are to foreigners.
Holy shit no wonder they trying to stop it lol.
It is main artery that can’t be stitched.
Can someone else check that stat.
I was looking and it just doesn’t seem posible that 19 percent of all marriages foreign. I could find any other numbers though.
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””””””””[First you claimed that Japan was stagnating because of its lack of vibrancy, aka racial diversity. After I called you out on your inanity, you now claim that it stagnates because of corruption, which is a particularly colorful form of true vibrancy. Which is it? Does Japan stagnate because it is monoracial, or because it is corrupt? If the former, you have to explain why largely monoracial China does not suffer the same economic stagnation. If the latter, you have to explain how importing non-Japanese into Japan would solve their corruption problem. And if you claim a connection between monoraciality and corruption, you have to explain why mostly monoracial countries of the sort that give you hives head the top of the list of countries with low corruption scores. If you insist in your charmlessly juvenile way on drawing a spurious parallel between monoraciality and corruption, you then have to explain how it isn’t a good idea for Europe, America, and Asia to flood, for example, highly corrupt West Africa with lots of non-black immigrants to improve their wretched economies.]
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Jesus christ that was ownage.
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[China is 90% Han. It is almost entirely racially and ethnically homogeneous. You are wrong yet again.]
Oh shit.
Yea and indo is 97 percent muslim and every year they just keep getting richer.
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I mean original numbers was hard to find of foreign marriages I got a post above in mod on the numbers I got of 400k foreign marriages in us and then 2162000
total marriages last year.
I mean 1 out of 5 almost foreign marriages. I would of thought way less. We really are in a crisis.
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1 out of 5 us marriages to foreigners.
Just wild shit.
wow
I thought I was more special than that. lol
I guess when you have a divorce regime like we have in us bound to happen and then global economy to top it off.
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@Editor:
I know a few Jewish right wingers. One Jewish woman I know is to the right of Ayn Rand. She’s my wife. The people are “Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership” are pretty right-wing as well. But you’re right, most of the Jews I know from my NY days are pretty lefty.
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Little bit about yakuza.
Yakuza: Japan’s organized crime syndicate and the only society of this type that is not a secret and is considered a semi-legitimate business which often provides assistance in times of need before the government could do so
The term Yakuza comes from a Japanese game, Oicho-Kabu (played with hanafuda or kabufuda cards). The worst hand in the game is a set of eight, nine and three. In traditional Japanese forms of counting, these numbers are called Ya, Ku and Sa, thus the origin of the word yakuza. The yakuza took this name because the Ya-Ku-Za hand requires the most skill (at judging opponents, etc.) and, obviously, the best luck in order to win. The name was also used because it signified bad fortune, presumably for anyone who went up against the group.
Divisions of origin
Despite uncertainty about the single origin of Yakuza organizations, most modern Yakuza derive from two classifications which emerged in the mid-Edo Period: tekiya, those who primarily peddled illicit, stolen or shoddy goods; bakuto, those who were involved in or participated in gambling.
Tekiya (peddlers) were considered one of the lowest social groups in Edo. As they began to form organizations of their own, they took over some administrative duties relating to commerce, such as stall allocation and protection of their commercial activities. During Shinto festivals, these peddlers opened stalls and some members were hired to act as security. Each peddler paid rent in exchange for a stall assignment and protection during the fair.
The Edo government eventually formally recognized such tekiya organizations and granted the oyabun (servants) of tekiya a surname as well as permission to carry a sword. This was a major step forward for the traders, as formerly only samurai and noblemen were allowed to carry swords.
Bakuto (gamblers) had a much lower social standing even than traders, as gambling was illegal. Many small gambling houses cropped up in abandoned temples or shrines at the edge of towns and villages all over Japan. Most of these gambling houses ran loan sharking businesses for clients, and they usually maintained their own security personnel.
The places themselves, as well as the bakuto, were regarded with disdain by society at large, and much of the undesirable image of the Yakuza originates from bakuto; This includes the name yakuza itself.
Because of the economic situation during the mid-period and the predominance of the merchant class, developing Yakuza groups were composed of misfits and delinquents that had joined or formed Yakuza groups to extort customers in local markets by selling fake or shoddy goods.
The roots of the Yakuza can still be seen today in initiation ceremonies, which incorporate tekiya orbakuto rituals. Although the modern Yakuza has diversified, some gangs still identify with one group or the other; for example, a gang whose primary source of income is illegal gambling may refer to themselves as bakuto.
Burakumin
The Burakumin are a group that is socially discriminated against in Japanese society. The burakumin are descendants of outcast communities of the feudal era, which mainly comprised those with occupations considered tainted with death or ritual impurity, such as executioners, undertakers or leather workers. They traditionally lived in their own secluded hamlets and ghettos. Discrimination against the Burakumin continues into the present day, a legacy of the Japanese feudal/caste system.
According to David E. Kaplan and Alec Dubro in Yakuza: The Explosive Account of Japan’s Criminal Underworld (Reading, Massachusetts: Addison-Wesley Publishing Co., 1986), burakumin account for about 70 percent of the members of Yamaguchi-gumi, the biggest Yakuza syndicate in Japan.
Mitsuhiro Suganuma, ex-officer of the Public Security Intelligence Agency, testified that burakumin account for about 60 percent of the members of the entire Yakuza.
Structure
Yakuza hierarchyDuring the formation of the yakuza, they adopted the traditional Japanese hierarchical structure of oyabun-kobun where kobun (子分; lit. foster child) owe their allegiance to the oyabun (親分; lit. foster parent). In a much later period, the code of jingi (仁義, justice and duty) was developed where loyalty and respect are a way of life.
The oyabun-kobun relationship is formalized by ceremonial sharing of sake from a single cup. This ritual is not exclusive to the yakuza—it is also commonly performed in traditional Japanese Shinto weddings, and may have been a part of sworn brotherhood[clarification needed] relationships.
During the World War II period in Japan, the more traditional tekiya/bakuto form of organization declined as the entire population was mobilized to participate in the war effort and society came under strict military government. However, after the war, the yakuza adapted again.
Prospective yakuza come from all walks of life. The most romantic tales tell how yakuza accept sons who have been abandoned or exiled by their parents. Many yakuza start out in junior high school or high school as common street thugs or members of bōsōzoku gangs. Perhaps because of its lower socio-economic status, numerous yakuza members come from Burakumin and ethnic Korean backgrounds.
Yakuza groups are headed by an Oyabun or Kumichō (組長, family head) who gives orders to his subordinates, the kobun. In this respect, the organization is a variation of the traditional Japanese senpai-kōhai (senior-junior) model. Members of yakuza gangs cut their family ties and transfer their loyalty to the gang boss. They refer to each other as family members – fathers and elder and younger brothers. The Yakuza is populated almost entirely by men, and there are very few women involved who are called “nee-san” (姐さん older sister). When the Yamaguchi-gumi (Family) boss was shot in the late nineties, his wife took over as boss of Yamaguchi-gumi, albeit for a short time.
The Yakuza have a very complex organizational structure. There is an overall boss of the syndicate, the kumicho, and directly beneath him are the saiko komon (senior advisor) and so-honbucho (headquarters chief). The second in the chain of command is the wakagashira, who governs several gangs in a region with the help of a fuku-honbucho who is himself responsible for several gangs. The regional gangs themselves are governed by their local boss, the shateigashira.
Each member’s connection is ranked by the hierarchy of sakazuki (sake sharing). Kumicho are at the top, and control various saikō-komon (最高顧問, senior advisors). The saikō-komon control their own turfs in different areas or cities. They have their own underlings, including other underbosses, advisors, accountants and enforcers.
Those who have received sake from oyabun are part of the immediate family and ranked in terms of elder or younger brothers. However, each kobun, in turn, can offer sakazuki as oyabun to his underling to form an affiliated organization, which might in turn form lower ranked organizations. In the Yamaguchi-gumi, which controls some 2,500 businesses and 500 yakuza groups, there are even 5th rank subsidiary organizations.
Rituals
Yubitsume, or finger-cutting, is a form of penance or apology. Upon a first offence, the transgressor must cut off the tip of his left little finger and hand the severed portion to his boss. Sometimes an underboss may do this in penance to the oyabun if he wants to spare a member of his own gang from further retaliation.
Its origin stems from the traditional way of holding a Japanese sword. The bottom three fingers of each hand are used to grip the sword tightly, with the thumb and index fingers slightly loose. The removal of digits starting with the little finger moving up the hand to the index finger progressively weakens a person’s sword grip.
The idea is that a person with a weak sword grip then has to rely more on the group for protection—reducing individual action. In recent years, prosthetic fingertips have been developed to disguise this distinctive appearance.
Many Yakuza have full-body tattoos. These tattoos, known as irezumi in Japan, are still often “hand-poked”, that is, the ink is inserted beneath the skin using non-electrical, hand-made and hand held tools with needles of sharpened bamboo or steel. The procedure is expensive and painful and can take years to complete.
Yakuza in prison sometimes perform pearlings: for each year spent in prison one pearl is inserted under the skin of the penis.
When yakuza members play Oicho-Kabu cards with each other, they often remove their shirts or open them up and drape them around their waists. This allows them to display their full-body tattoos to each other. This is one of the few times that yakuza members display their tattoos to others, as they normally keep them concealed in public with long-sleeved and high-necked shirts.
Another prominent yakuza ritual is the sake-sharing ceremony. This is used to seal bonds of brotherhood between individual yakuza members, or between two yakuza groups. For example, in August 2005, the Godfathers Kenichi Shinoda and Kazuyoshi Kudo held a sake-sharing ceremony, sealing a new bond between their respective gangs, the Yamaguchi-gumi and the Kokusui-kai.
Principal families
Although yakuza membership has declined following an antigang law aimed specifically at yakuza and passed by the Japanese government in 1992, there are thought to be more than 87,000 active yakuza members in Japan today. Although there are many different Yakuza groups, together they form the largest organized crime group in the world. Most yakuza members belong to four principal families:
Yamaguchi-gumi
(六代目山口組, Rokudaime Yamaguchi-gumi?) Created in 1915, the Yamaguchi-gumi is the biggest yakuza family, 45% of all yakuza in Japan, with more than 45,000 members divided into 750 clans. Despite more than one decade of police repression, the Yamaguchi-gumi has continued to grow. From its headquarters in Kobe, it directs criminal activities throughout Japan. It is also involved in operations in Asia and the United States. Shinobu Tsukasa, also known as Kenichi Shinoda, is the Yamaguchi-gumi’s current oyabun. He follows an expansionist policy, and has increased operations in Tokyo (which has not traditionally been the territory of the Yamaguchi-gumi.)
Sumiyoshi-rengo
(住吉連合?), sometimes known as Sumiyoshi-kai (住吉会?) The Sumiyoshi-rengo is the second largest yakuza family, with 10,000 members divided into 177 clans. The Sumiyoshi-kai, as it is sometimes called, is a confederation of smaller yakuza groups. Its current oyabun is Shigeo Nishiguchi. Structurally, Sumiyoshi-kai differs from its principal rival, the Yamaguchi-gumi, in that it functions like a federation. The chain of command is more lax, and although Shigeo Nishiguchi is always the supreme oyabun, its leadership is distributed among several other people.
Inagawa-kai
(稲川会?) The Inagawa-kaï is the third largest yakuza family in Japan, with roughly 7,400 members divided into 313 clans. It is based in the Tokyo-Yokohama area and was one of the first yakuza families to expand its operations to outside of Japan. Its current oyabun is Hideki Inagawa.
Toua Yuai Jigyo Kumiai
(東亜友愛事業組合?), sometimes called Tōa-kai (東亜会?) Founded by Hisayuki Machii in 1948, the Tao Yuai Jigyo Kumiai yakuza family quickly became one of most influential yakuza groups in Tokyo. It is composed of yakuza of Korean origin, and numbers more than 1,000 divided into 6 clans. Its current oyabun is Satoru Nomura.
Current Activities: Japan
Much of the current activities of the yakuza can be understood in the light of their feudal origin. First, they are not a secret society like their counterparts of the Italian mafia and Chinese triads. Yakuza organizations often have an office with a wooden board on the front door, openly displaying their group name or emblem.
Members often wear sunglasses and colorful suits so that their profession can be immediately recognized by civilians (katagi). Even the way many Yakuza walk is different from ordinary citizens. Their arrogant, wide gait is markedly different from the quiet, unassuming way many Japanese go about their business. Alternatively, Yakuza can dress more conservatively and flash their tattoos to indicate their affiliation when the need arises.
On occasion, they also sport insignia pins on their lapels. One Yakuza family even printed a monthly newsletter with details on prisons, weddings, funerals, murders, and poems by leaders.
Until recently, the majority of yakuza income came from protection rackets in shopping, entertainment and red-light districts within their territory. This is mainly due to the reluctance of such businesses to seek help from the police. The Japanese police are also reluctant to interfere in internal matters in recognized communities such as shopping arcades, schools/universities, night districts and so on.
In this sense, yakuza are still regarded as semi-legitimate organizations. For example, immediately after the Kobe earthquake, the Yamaguchi-gumi, whose headquarters are in Kobe, mobilized itself to provide disaster relief services (including the use of a helicopter), and this was widely reported by the media as a contrast to the much slower response by the Japanese government. For this reason, many yakuza regard their income and hustle (shinogi) as a collection of a feudal tax.
Yakuza are heavily involved in sex-related industries, such as smuggling uncensored pornography from Europe and America into Japan (as the local pornography is censored in ways Western pornography is not). They also control large prostitution rings throughout the country. In China, where the law restricts the number of children per household and the cultural preference is for boys, the yakuza can buy unwanted girls for as little as $5,000 and put them to work in the mizu shōbai, which means water trade and refers to the night entertainment business, in yakuza-controlled bars, nightclubs and restaurants.
The Philippines is another source of young women. Yakuza trick girls from impoverished villages into coming to Japan, where they are promised respectable jobs with good wages. Instead, they are forced into becoming prostitutes and strippers.
The alleys and streets of Shinjuku are a popular modern Tokyo Yakuza hangout. Yakuza frequently engage in a uniquely Japanese form of extortion, known as sōkaiya (総会屋). In essence, this is a specialized form of protection racket. Instead of harassing small businesses, the yakuza harasses a stockholders’ meeting of a larger corporation. They simply scare the ordinary stockholder with the presence of yakuza operatives, who obtain the right to attend the meeting by a small purchase of stock.
They also engage in simple blackmail, obtaining incriminating or embarrassing information about a company’s practices or leaders. Once the yakuza gain a foothold in these companies, they will work for them to protect the company from having such internal scandals exposed to the public. Some companies still include payoffs as part of their annual budget.
The Yakuza have a strong influence in Japanese professional wrestling, or puroresu. Most of their interest in wrestling activities and promotions is purely financial. The Yakuza have mostly gotten involved by financially supporting wrestling promotions with fading fortunes, or simple business loans.
Many venues used by wrestling (arenas, stadiums, and so forth) are owned by or connected to the Yakuza, and as such, when a promotion uses one of their sites, the Yakuza receive a percentage of the gate. The Yakuza as a whole is regarded as a great supporter of both puroresu and MMA.
It’s not unusual for wrestlers to receive specific instructions on what to do in their matches so as to appeal just to Yakuza members in the crowd. It is thought in Japan that it is safe to say that none of the large wrestling promotions in Japan would fold, because they would be rescued by the Yakuza.
The pioneer of wrestling in Japan, Rikidōzan, was killed by the Yakuza. Former WWE wrestler Yoshihiro Tajiri was asked to start a Yakuza gimmick, an offer he quickly refused, fearing that he would be targeted by the real Yakuza. Professional wrestler Yoshiaki Fujiwara is often referred to as Kumicho (i.e., “Godfather”) and his wrestling promotion was called the Pro Wrestling Fujiwara Gumi. He often portrays Yakuza figures as an actor on Japanese television comedies and dramas.
Yakuza also have ties to the Japanese realty market and banking, through jiageya (地上げ屋). Jiageya specialize in inducing holders of small real estate to sell their property so that estate companies can carry out much larger development plans. Japan’s bubble economy of the 1980s is often blamed on real estate speculation by banking subsidiaries. After the collapse of the Japanese property bubble, a manager of a major bank in Nagoya was assassinated, and much speculation ensued about the banking industry’s indirect connection to the Japanese underworld.
Yakuza often take part in local festivals such as Sanja Matsuri where they often carry the shrine through the streets proudly showing off their elaborate tattoos. Yakuza have been known to make large investments in legitimate, mainstream companies. In 1989, Susumu Ishii, the Oyabun of the Inagawa-kai (a well known Yakuza group) bought US$ 255 million worth of Tokyo Kyuko Electric Railway’s stock. Japan’s Securities and Exchange Surveillance Commission has knowledge of more than 50 listed companies with ties to organized crime, and in March 2008 the Osaka Securities Exchange decided to review all listed companies and expel those with Yakuza ties.
As a matter of principle, theft is not recognized as a legitimate activity of yakuza. This is in line with the idea that their activities are semi-open; theft by definition would be a covert activity. More importantly, such an act would be considered a trespass by the community. Also, yakuza usually do not conduct the actual business operation by themselves. Core business activities such as merchandising, loan sharking or management of gambling houses are typically managed by non-yakuza members who pay protection fees for their activities.
There is much evidence of Yakuza involvement in international crime. There are many tattooed Yakuza members imprisoned in various Asian prisons for such crimes as drug trafficking and arms smuggling. In 1997, one verified Yakuza member was caught smuggling 4 kilograms (8.82 pounds) of heroin into Canada.
In 1999, Italian-American Mafia Bonanno family member, Mickey Zaffarano, was overheard talking about the profits of the pornography trade that both families could profit from. Another Yakuza racket is bringing women of other ethnicities/races, especially East European and Asian to Japan under the lure of a glamorous position, then forcing the women into prostitution.
Because of their history as a legitimate feudal organization and their connection to the Japanese political system through the uyoku (extreme right-wing political groups), yakuza are somewhat a part of the Japanese establishment. In the early 80s in Fukuoka, a yakuza war spiraled out of control and a few civilians were hurt. The police stepped in and forced the yakuza bosses on both sides to declare a truce in public. At various times, people in Japanese cities have launched anti-yakuza campaigns with mixed and varied success. In March 1995, the Japanese government passed the Act for Prevention of Unlawful Activities by Criminal Gang Members which made traditional racketeering much more difficult.
United States
The Yakuza have had presence in Los Angeles, San Francisco, San Bernardino, Seattle, Las Vegas, Arizona, Houston, Florida, Virginia, and New York City.
Yakuza activity in the United States is mostly relegated to Hawaii, but have made their presence known in other parts of the country. The Yakuza are said to use Hawaii as a way station between Japan and mainland America, smuggling crystal methamphetamine into the country and smuggling back firearms to Japan. They easily fit into the local population, since many tourists from Japan and other Asian countries visit the islands on a regular basis. They also work with local gangs, funneling Japanese tourists to gambling parlors and brothels.
In California, the Yakuza have made alliances with local Vietnamese and Korean gangs as well as Chinese triads. In New York City, they appear to collect finders fees from American mafiosos and businessmen for guiding Japanese tourists to gambling establishments, both legal and illegal.
Handguns manufactured in the U.S. account for a large share (33%) of handguns seized in Japan, followed by China (16%), and the Philippines (10%). In 1990, a Smith & Wesson .38 caliber revolver that cost $275 in the U.S. could sell for up to $4,000 in Tokyo, and by 1997 it could sell for $500 due to the proliferation of guns in Japan during the 1990s.
The FBI suspects that the Yakuza use various operations to launder money in the U.S.
In 2001, the FBI’s representative in Tokyo arranged for Tadamasa Goto, the head of the group Goto-gumi, to receive a liver transplant in the United States, in return for information of Yamaguchi-gumi operations in the U.S. This was done without prior consultation of the NPA. The journalist who uncovered the deal received threats by Goto and was given police protection in the US and in Japan.
Mexico
Yakuza in Mexico are most notably involved in illegal immigration. There were cases in the 1990s of Yakuza recruiting young women (mainly with diplomas and good English knowledge) with promises of legitimate work in Japan. When the women arrived in Japan they were forced into prostitution. Some women were able to escape their employers and return home to Mexico and alert authorities. In some incidents, Mexican authorities were able to apprehend the Yakuza members and deported them as illegal immigrants.
Similar incidents have also occurred in Peru where women have been enticed to work in Japan. The Association of Hispanic Women Against Discrimination and Gender Violence or “Women in Action” estimates nearly 3,000 Mexican women recruited by the various Yakuza clans prostitute themselves in Jap
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LILGirl
i see what you’re saying, i do, but this is like listing a bunch of black kids who got into harvard because of aa and being like, “these poor children were forced to identify as black and got into harvard because of it.”
Yeah. This is part of the reason why whites who’ve escaped leftist schools and media propaganda by thinking outside the box for themselves are so disgusted by affirmative action of various kinds.
You hopefully can see that.
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@dream puppy
Food contamination may be a factor, right. Ingesting chemical hitherto unknown may influence how hormones work. The noticeable decrease of male sperm count during last 50 years is probably related.
I still think the selection is probably a primary factor. Some 30 years ago, a flood on river Duna dislodged a chunk of a river bank in Croatia and an ancient village site was revealed. Lepenski Vir, about 7ky BC. Beside the village character that would have been more appropriate for an early bronze age, there was one oddity. It was relatively difficult to tell men and women apart on a cursory inspection. There was no noticeable difference between height of men and women and the overall skeletal frame was about the same too. Of course, the pelvic area was a giveaway. Whether the settlement was isolated or a part of a cluster of settlements is hard to tell, so far the location is unique in the European context.
One can speculate whether the possible isolation forced the similar physique, or whether there was some other factor present, but judging from the dump pits their primary diet was fish, which I can’t imagine how that would be a factor.
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Gun, it’s all the laws of unintended consequences. Instead of serfs, they got surfs. 😉
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http://everythingninja.wordpress.com/2009/10/
May want to check here to learn about some japanese culture.
he he he
I hope to actually train one of these days as a samuri and maybe cut some bamboo items with an actual sword.
I like the Japenese honor code.
My woman made it for me because she owns. he he he
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namae nanka,
to such an extent that the most manly Jew is more feminine than the least manly Aryan.
well, Hollywood told me about this guy named the Bear Jew, who went around bashing hordes of nazis in a violent, charming manner.
and gorbachev declares that israeli men will “kill you with their pinky finger, then shag their multiple girlfriends”
so that is, like, two anecdotal evidences right there
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I’ll try to put a bun in the oven to make a version of the double white gunz everyones been waiting for.
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Wait wait wait
I didn’t tell her that yet
delete delete delete lol
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Jerry says, “It hasn’t become an issue and damned if men are going to want anyone spreading around the idea that women shouldn’t date older men because of that. I’ve heard lots of stories of impotent Alphas keeping women including a young war veteran who’d lost the ability to have sex.”
For women, it’s not really all about the sex anyway. Lots of women cheat on their husbands even though very few are doing it with the husband’s endorsement. Women, without the hype to the contrary, quite often do the mom and wife thing with one guy and the hot sex thing with another.
No woman in her right mind is going to leave her high status husband for her boy toy, whether his status is material, political, or social alpha credibility (like mine with some mild overlap into political causes like not wanting the city to get blown up because of corporate negligence).
As rigid as I can be on some other issues, I tell my potentials from the beginning that I am an us, and that’s not going to change.
So, a much younger woman with an older man is usually in a very good situation. She’s either going to get hot sex and sanity and stability and alphatude in one package until he dies on top of her, or she’ll get all that except the hot sex with an experience mentor who will be very assistive in filtering possibly younger or similarly aged men to, as Nietzsche would put it, guide through their period of self loathing.
It’s much less of a gamble than getting with a guy of a similar age or younger. Nothing says success like success. A young man hasn’t proven himself yet. He can hit 30 like my first ex did, and decide he can do better, whether that is actually true or not.
A guy who’s 40+ usually has some sense by then, and can appreciate a decent woman, where young men take them for granted.
…not saying that all men under 40 are stupid…they just seem to be more stupid than men over 40.
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Morsellaux: “That is not an explanation. That may be an observation but it does not address why they vote democrats (socialists and commies, let’s not beat around bushes), e.g. against their own interest. Republican are not inherently a European Americans’ party. So… why?”
Yes, it is an explanation, just one that doesn’t suit your ideology. It’s the same thing we see all over the world – race/ethnicity consistently trumps other considerations, especially when push comes to shove. When Yugoslavia broke up, did the middle class of the various ethnic groups go off and create their own country – Middleclassovia? Of course not, that would be impossible. Instead, Croats coalesced with Croats, Serbs with Serbs, etc. Nitpickers will of course look for exceptions, and they may find some, but the general rule holds.
Our wars in the Middle East require us to navigate a byzantine framework of ethnic conflict and tribal loyalties. What we are seeing in our own country is not fundamentally different, though for the time being it seems more civilized. The operative phrase, of course, is “for the time being.”
You say that the Republican Party is not inherently white. I won’t engage in semantic quibbles, but I think it is fair to say that the Republican Party is *implicitly* a white party, no matter how much it is trying to change this. Certainly, the Republican Party does not pursue pro-white policies, and is doing absolutely nothing to reverse the demographic destruction of whites. In fact, Republicans accept that non-whites have interests that are legitimate and must be promoted, but would gag if the same were suggested of whites. Only whites are denied a positive identity…everybody else gets theirs. White interests either don’t exist, or if they do, are illegitimate. Republicans heartily agree with this.
But it is perception, not necessarily reality, that we are dealing with. The Republican Party is seen as the “white party,” and the Democrats as the party of non-whites. Liberals always claim that immigrants will, in time, become card carrying members of the Republican middle class. They do this to get the gullible conservative to go along with massive non-white immigration, while knowing it to be false. The liberal lies, the gullible conservative believes. Just another example of liberals being the smarter and more savvy of the two. I say this as someone who formerly identified as conservative, so it was not a realization that I was particularly happy with. But it is true.
The bottom line is that race/ethnicity is the decisive factor in why non-whites, even those that meet (or exceed!) the Republican profile, still vote decidedly Democratic. This includes some subgroups that have met the profile for many generations. Occasionaly, some other factor can supersede race for a time, such as the very anti-communist Cuban or Vietnamese communities. Even there, as the older generation dies off, the communities are becoming more Democrat – even though both more or less meet the Republican profile. Of course, some Cubans are genuinely white, so that throws things off a bit, but you should understand the point.
Race/ethnicity can be submerged at times, but it inevitably reasserts itself. The Republicans once thought that the Cuban community would guarantee their dominance in Florida. Think again.
Goofy middle class whites think, “Hey, he’s just like me! Great guy!” But the non-white doesn’t see it that way – because it’s NOT that way – and the poor buffudled conservative can’t figure out why. I think it was Orwell who said something to the effect that the hardest thing to see is often right in front of your face. Brainwashed whites can’t understand that friendship with a non-white doesn’t mean that the two of you are one and the same.
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Jerry: “You’re going into serious Beta territory there. Evolutionary biology shows that those who won’t let the Alphas mate with their sisters, don’t live to reproduce.”
LOL! A Japanese guy preventing you from fucking with his family line is now beta? Why should he consider you alpha? Why would he not prefer that his sister marry a Japanese alpha, maintaining stronger in group ties and making it likely that more of his own genes are passed on to future generations? Why would he want nephews and nieces with split loyalties and alien genes, who won’t clearly identify with his own kind? You’ve got evolutionary biology exactly backwards, so it is truly galling to see you attempt to rely upon it.
Now, if we lived in a fantasy world where Jerry was the only alpha, and all Japanese guys were omega, you might have something, with an emphasis on might. But we don’t, and so you don’t.
If he mans up and sends you scurrying away with hurt feelings (I won’t be your friend anymore, you mean Jap!), then HE’S the beta? Get real, dude.
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anecdotes destined to enrage your local PC shit-tester:
unmarried Italian women are great but you have to bring top-shelf game and a thick skin
note: Italian guys are on average purtier than you
ditto for Greek women, who I’ve seen make life hell
Spanish gals have been uniformly vain, expensive, and firmly on the stupid side
Irish girls have foggy temperaments and are easy to forget, except for working girls, who are a blast
German girls are bad conversationalists but open to kink
English lasses are no more: they’ve been replaced by their drunker, more diseased, and poorer relations
Ukrainian and Polish girls are above average, at least in the cities
I haven’t been to Scandi
bitch all you want
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oh, one more:
French women are great, but they’re too used to it
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@Ryder,
Alright, look: Whether you like it or not, or Obsidian likes it or not, black and white Americans are here to stay. They share your country, your government, your social world. They work where you want to be, live in neighborhoods near you.
You can either retreat into racial nationalism or try to adapt to a multiracial state not founded on any particular ethnic identity. This is the United States.
If you *don’t* like this, then the United States is not a country for you.
We need to make this black-white thing work. This means if black people commit more crimes, we need to deal with the problem at the source. Bad genes aside and racial identity aside, we can use glasses to correct bad eyesight so we can use culture to correct some limited effects of bad genes.
If white people won’t acknowledge this, then the country really is finished. Liberals hang their heads in self-shame and blacks retreat into denial.
Neither is really progressive.
You can either watch your society slowly crumble under its internal stresses or be part of the United States.
There’s your conundrum. You don’t like the United States as it was populated and founded. Too bad; I don’t like a lot of shit. That’s too bad for me.
Deal with it. Try to do it productively.
Don’t play the same identity politics that fuck the entire planet over, and screw black communities internally.
You need to face this basic truth: Blacks aren’t going anywhere. They will continue to live in your cities. You can bitch and whine and complain. Or you can constructively engage.
The United States is, for better or worse, a pluralistic state. You want homogeneity? Be off with you to Estonia or Korea (there’s an upside to both).
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Jerry: “In a long comment in moderation, I mentioned how the most asinine thing about many of the pussy-whipped “males” at Stormfront is that they would say with a straight face that the beautiful white Estonian women in the videos above should be told by their brothers and fathers NOT to mate with white American males of British/Irish or even Germanic heritage because we’d be polluting *them*. This self-defeating logic is in the interest of older American & British WN females, not males.”
All of this is beside the point. Do what you want, or at least try. But other guys get to do what they want as well, and if that means boxing you about the ears and sending you scampering away, then so be it. You seem to believe that everything is about choices. Fine. Other men get to make choices too. Trying to wrap youself in an alpha blanket doesn’t mean shite, all that matters is who wins.
You acknowledged that the hotties in Turkey were off limits to you, but you were “allowed” (your words) to go for less attractive girls. Let that sink in. You were “allowed.”
Why is that? Is it because Turkish males are beta? Of course not. They were alpha enough to secure the hotties for themselves, and you had to content yourself with their leavings, as opposed to their having to content themselves with yours. They won, you lost, mission accomplished. Straight up alpha score. “Fairness” doesn’t enter it at all.
Those same Turkish guys, if in Europe, would walk right past you and try to fuck a white girl in front of you. He fears you not at all, you are nothing but a roach, a filthy nuisance. You can’t touch his women, but he can touch yours. You are the beta, he is the alpha. He is, quite simply, better than you. Once he fucks the chick, maybe spreads a little disease around the white population, he can always send for his unsullied Turkish hottie.
There is nothing alpha about sitting idly by as outsiders come in and fuck a given group’s women. It is, in fact, the epitome of beta. Instilling fear can be an alpha characteristic, inspiring contempt and mockery is beta. What’s his is his, and you better not touch it. What’s yours is his too. Whatever that is, beta it is not.
The reason is that he has a sense of tribe, while you do not. That is why you fear him, but he does not fear you. Not long ago, whites had this sense of tribe, and they reaped the benefits. Nobody touched their women.
You speak of silly concepts of fairness. The Turk just smiles at your ignorance, perhaps pretends to agree, and goes up to the next white woman.
Jerry, you are sorely deluded as to what time it is.
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Gorbo, the historical ignorance that you reveal is astonishing. This country was not founded upon your beliefs, but upon mine. On race, the Founding Fathers agreed with me, not you. In fact, if anything, I’m considerably more “liberal” on race than they were.
You make the common mistake of looking around at what you see today, and assuming that it was always this way and always will be. It wasn’t, and it won’t. You speak of “productive engagement.” We’ve been doing that, and the rapes and murders just keep piling up. The cultural destruction keeps mounting, the demographic tidal wave advances unabated. The more we take your advice, the more suffering and destruction results, the worse it gets. You’ve got blood on your hands, pal, not me. Those who promote the policies that provably and demonstrably lead to murder, rape, and dispossession are, as far as I’m concerned, just as guilty as those who actually do the deed.
Integration is a very recent policy, for the vast majority of American history it wasn’t like this. And, surprise surprise, there were far fewer innocent whites having their lives destroyed, whether literally or figuratively. America was not only founded on principles that are the opposite of yours, for most of its history it lived by them.
However, I don’t advocate going back to the old policy of segregation, though it would be a massive improvement over today. I have no desire to lord it over other races, nor do I wish to be lorded over by non-whites. I have non-white friends, and I want them to do well. Supremacy is not where I want to go.
That is why separation and self-determination is the equitable solution. Non-whites should be able to govern themselves, as should whites. You think it can’t happen here? Well, it’s happening all over the world, as different groups break off, form their own nations, and seek to have more control over their own destiny. Self-determination is a perfectly reasonable solution, and your trying to tar it with the Hitler brush is a bad joke, nothing more than adolescent buffoonery.
The simple fact is that, today, it is white countries and only white countries that are subjected to this, and whites and only whites are expected to become minorities in their own lands. This is not expected of any non-white country. Such an assault on whites is grossly, insanely unjust, and it must be opposed. You try to paint it as if we wear the black hats, but nothing could be further from the truth. We’re the good guys. And, good or not, we’re not going anywhere.
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@Ryder,
The fact that white countries that are subjected to this is an artefact of our own self-punishment. No one else has done this to us.
The United States was founded by white people: but tons of tons of Africans were brought over as slaves. They’re now permanent features of our social landscape.
When the Romans brought in the subject peoples and populated Italy with them, they may not have fully realized what they were doing, but the same effect ensued. By 2nd century, “Rome” in the Republican/Old Family/Citizen sense was long forgotten history. The Nation-State of Rome ceased to exist through power.
White countries have done the same thing. By creating the Empire, the Brits guaranteed this process would happen.
In the US, we’ve done the same thing. We brought in slaves. Now they’re citizens.
You can dream about separating yourself out, but it’s demographically impossible. It would require a revolution. It would require ethnic warfare, almost certainly. It would result in extended violence and the complete collapse of the US.
If you want to live in *THIS* USA, you need to accept that these blacks are your co-citizens and you have absolutely no intelligent choice but to work with them.
If you want that to change, be prepared for a whole world of hurt. There’s no painless way from here to there.
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gorb
why did blacks and women and jews get to completely turn over the entire US to suit themselves but white men just have to “take it”. there was a giant social revolution not solong ago, why cant there be another?
just curious about your reasoning
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dana
how did blks, women and jews just turn over the entirre us?
Was it because they asked to be treated as equals?
why shouldn’t a blk whose ancestors have been here since 1810 have the same rights as a white whose ancestors came 100+ years later via Elias Island?
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I don’t think anyone got to take over the US. The feminists who did their work did it with the able-bodies help of lots of white men, many of them conservative, who white-knighted themselves and their self-defeating conservative social values into marriage law abuse and male financial entrapment.
Jews are divided on everything – though very lefty. But they can’t decide if Israel is good or bad. Especially as the Israelis can’t decide what time of day it is in Haifa. Every time they elect a decent government, ie, a right-wing one (does any other make sense in their situation?), the Jews in the US have a mass freak-out.
We could have a social revolution, but what are you going to do – force blacks with the same passport as you to get the hell away from you at gunpoint?
This isn’t going to happen. Not in the short or medium term. And if it did, the response would likely be fantastically hostile, even from other whites – remember, those whites vote significantly Dem themselves, and the power structure is secure.
Then you have the acculturated and middle-class “unacceptables”. If you let them into your fantasy land, what about their poor relatives?
There’s no situation in which you could stage a bloody revolution to get what you want.
Face it: Blacks are here to stay. There’s little to no chance you can get rid of them. The most efficient course of action is to learn how to live with them without conflict.
Part of that is helping them out of their self-destructive cycle of death and denial. How to do that I have no idea. Maybe it’s impossible.
But the dreams of the white nationalist right just muddy the waters. It’s like black separatists: they help no-one. Impractical solutions.
If we want to start talking about potential ideas, I have some good eugenic ones that could be put into effect, too. How about requiring a license to breed? Allowing breeding through artificial insemination / egg implantation (you get to give birth), but not allowing people with inferior genes from passing them on? Improving the human genome? Isolating causes of bad behavior (criminality, addiction, etc.) and obliging these individuals not to breed? Requiring the passage of IQ and personality disorder tests to allow anyone to breed, on pain of, say, sterilization or death? Do that for 3 generations, and like dog breeding, you breed whatever the hell you wanted into the human population.
Want peaceniks? Violent soldiers? Avant-garde thinkers? Geniuses? The Human Improvement Project could easily create whole lineages, new races of specially-adapted human populations designed for certain tasks. It’s likely as easy to do with people as it is with dogs or horses.
I can dream about it in a science-fictioney way, too. I can even advocate a gentle form of it. I could make compelling arguments for its introduction and the mechanisms that could be used to allow individual rights but ensure the continuation of the program.
In 4 generations, we could create a race of Supermen. Imagine the athletic prowess of West Africans, the endurance of East Africans, the brains of mathematically-inclined Asians, the creativity of Northern Europeans, the emotional stability of the confident and well-endowed, …
Imagine putting all our research into improving humans.
Okay, say I want to do this.
Is there a snowball’s chance in hell I could possibly do this in the USA? No. It’s impractical and unsellable regardless of my arguments, due to the moral/intellectual/cultural climate and the practical needs of this country.
For exactly the same reason that lots of ideas are great and might even work, but are impractical, the notion of creating a separatist movement in the US that successfully launches a revolution to partition the US peacefully is absurd.
And anything non-peaceful will result in disaster for all sides (not all will suffer equally, but all will suffer).
So this is my logic. The whole WN movement is doomed to, at best, cause vicious, endless civil war between white people. If you don’t see this, more’s the shame.
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“But it is perception, not necessarily reality, that we are dealing with. The Republican Party is seen as the “white party,” and the Democrats as the party of non-whites. Liberals always claim that immigrants will, in time, become card carrying members of the Republican middle class. They do this to get the gullible conservative to go along with massive non-white immigration, while knowing it to be false. The liberal lies, the gullible conservative believes. Just another example of liberals being the smarter and more savvy of the two. I say this as someone who formerly identified as conservative, so it was not a realization that I was particularly happy with. But it is true.
The bottom line is that race/ethnicity is the decisive factor in why non-whites, even those that meet (or exceed!) the Republican profile, still vote decidedly Democratic.”
yes it holds true for most of the exceed cases as well, even though they would vote for the staunchest traditionalists back in their own country, or support them, they still vote for the democrats. The long-term scenario isn’t as much of a worry for them as they can always pack their bags and go back home.
home is where the heart is, so goes the tune.
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EE Gallery at US Open
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/more_sports/galleries/wags_of_tennis/wags_of_tennis.html
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Obsidian,
“I’ve addressed yur laundry list of BS “reasons” (cough, excuses, cough) below…”
As I’ve said, explanation != endorsement/justification. There are very obvious reasons why American men aren’t emigrating to E. Europe en masse. Would many of them be better off if they did? Probably yes. I’m not necessarily supporting their decision, only explaining it.
“Below you focus your comments specifically on lowly Beta Males, saying that PUAs got it going on; above, you say the reverse. Make up your mind, son.”
There is no contradiction. Both Western PUAs and beta guys could benefit from emigrating to E. Europe but a) the benefit is relatively smaller for the latter b) the likely reasons why many of them don’t do so are similar for both.
“Read Florida’s book, if they’re of the highly educated “creative” class, they can go anywhere in the developed world and then some.”
And how does that disprove my statement? If you have a good career, moving to another country doesn’t make so much sense. Very easy concept.
“HBD says these White masters of the universe will have no problem with such a small thing”
1. They never called themselves “white masters of the universe”.
2. It’s not a small thing, it takes years. Learning English is easy in comparison. Try it yourself if you don’t believe me.
“c) emigrating to another country is a high-risk strategy since you will have to basically start from scratch
O: BS”
So selling your flat, leaving your job and family behind and moving to a completely different country is not a high-risk strategy in your opinion?
“d) immigration laws in E Europe are generally strict
O: Yawn”
What is that supposed to mean? They are strict and getting a work permit is difficult.
“O: If that’s true, then so is the author of this post. He didn’t say a damn thing about lowly Betas, he was talking about the top spot for PUAs. ”
So? I pointed out that beta males have more such incentives than PUAs. What does Roissy’s opinion have to do with this?
“Yawn. Cry me a river.”
Let’s try this again. What I said is:
a) the provider abilities of Western betas would be much more appreciated by women in Eastern Europe,
b) there aren’t as many feminist-inspired divorce laws, rape laws etc. in E. Europe as in the US
c) therefore Western betas have good reasons to expatriate to E. Europe.
If you have an articulate response, I’ll welcome it. Do you agree or disagree?
“and crying into their beer here or anywhere else isn’t gonna make a darn bit of difference”
1. Give me specific examples where anyone was “crying into his beer” on this thread.
2. You obsessing over the supposed racism and hypocrisy of HBDers isn’t going to make any difference either – after all, you don’t seem to be changing anyone’s mind here – yet you seem to enjoy it a lot. But comments posted on blogs are usually not meant to be means of political activism.
“That’s interesting given that you don’t know many such Men. ”
I don’t. But I know that many local white women find them exotic.
“Last time I checked not many Brothas are living in Budapest.”
There aren’t numerous but they do exist. Most of them are university students.
“O: Then they get off their asses and stop whining, bitching and moaning and actually get engaged in the political process and change things they don’t like.”
1. They ARE engaged in politics at least as much as other social groups are. We all heard the stereotype about the angry white male voting bloc. Most libertarians and Tea Party members are white males AFAIK.
2. Let’s be clear – do you agree or disagree with the statement that “what they obviously mean is that the don’t want anyone to receive AA and welfare because they believe in the free market.”
” Now if you want to get p*ssy on demand”
Show me any commenter here or on any other site who wants a society where there’s “pussy on demand” (whatever that is supposed to mean).
“Thank you! But this ain’t a debate, son. ;)”
Then what else is it?
““That’s because no one romanticizes Africa the way you guys romanticize Estonia.”
H: Wrong. What about the NOI and all the black supremacists who spread bullshit about the glorious bygone black civilization of Kemet?
O: What about em? *shrugs*
We weren’t talking about the latter”
We were, in the sense that you stated “no one romanticizes Africa”, which I find an apparently false statement due to the existence of NOI and black supremacist ideologues who romanticize Africa and the supposed civilization of Kemet.
“Please explain to me why Style and Mystery could find their way to the Eastern bloc while most White boys engage in a circle jerk talking smack about American Women as if anyone gives a shit?”
1. I already did. But you dismiss any possible explanation you don’t like as an “excuse”.
2. Your assumptions that Roissy’s readers
a) care about what others think about their views on American women
b) are mostly HBDers
are very likely false.
3. Another of your assumptions – namely that Roissy’s readers give a shit about your views about HBDers in the sense that they actually CARE about what you say about them – is also highly questionable.
I suspect you are swiftly becoming the black male version of Wendy Schwartz, the difference being that you have an obsession with HBDers instead of PUAs. You are trolling numerous blogs in the same fashion she did – because the fact that some white people today share some of the views of the enslavers and oppressors of your black ancestors apparently enrages you. Oh well. I guess it’s only a matter of time that you try to get HBD bloggers arrested for racism and hate speech.
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chic
yes thats all that happened they were treated like “equals” after 1964. nothing else.
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Correction:
“Both Western PUAs and beta guys could benefit from emigrating to E. Europe but a) the benefit is relatively bigger for the latter”
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oh chic i meant to ask you re: your comment about the superdome and why were they mad at the white tourists
im going to go kill random people in germany because of what happened to my grandparents and their families
i guess youd approve of that?
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dana, if that’s what you’d think, then so be it.
I on the otherhand don’t agree with what happened in the superdome but I understand how human beings behave. They want someone to blame when things go wrong.
They blamed white people for leaving them there to die. so the anger of blk crowd would be towards white people. It’s very unfortunate that a large number of whites who happened to be there weren’t American.
FYI, I’m sure it wasn’t every single blk person in the superdome who wanted “white blood”. Most were probably indifferent.
dana yes thats all that happened they were treated like “equals” after 1964. nothing else
you tell me
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gorbachev,
Jews are divided on everything – though very lefty. But they can’t decide if Israel is good or bad.
if i keep on fucking jewesses, like you did, will i turn into a jew, like you did?
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Gobachev: “The United States was founded by white people: but tons of tons of Africans were brought over as slaves. They’re now permanent features of our social landscape.”
I’ve addressed this issue above. I have offered an equitable solution: self-determination. But the issue goes way beyond blacks, and way beyond the United States. Blacks in the united states are merely a symptom of a disease that is destroying white lands across the planet, and only white lands (I’ll throw in Tibet for good measure, though obviously a completely different situation).
G: “White countries have done the same thing. By creating the Empire, the Brits guaranteed this process would happen.”
This is not a sufficient explanation. The process of destruction is being inflicted upon all white nations, including those that never had empires. This is being done to whites as whites, former imperial powers or not. The white nations of the world are living under a hostile System that is hellbent on displacing them. Unless they can remove themselves from that System, they are screwed. Period, end of story. Whether someone wants to argue that the basis of that System is Jewish domination, or simply treacherous whites/leftists, the outcome is still the same. A hostile System.
G: “You can dream about separating yourself out, but it’s demographically impossible.”
Ridiculous. It’s not impossible at all. Look at a demographic map.
G: “It would require a revolution. It would require ethnic warfare, almost certainly. It would result in extended violence and the complete collapse of the US.”
Quite possibly, G. I feel morally obligated, because I’m a good guy and a swell all around feller, to offer and promote an equitable solution in the perhaps vain hope of preventing a particularly painful outcome. However, if the equitable solution is not accepted and acted upon peacefully, then yes, we are in for a whole world of hurt. But, if we stay on our current course, that’s coming anyway.
Your way doesn’t work, Gorbo, it is unsustainable. What it really comes down to is whether we’re heading to Czechoslovakia or Yugoslavia. Clearly I would prefer the former, but I will of course oppose the destruction of my people either way.
G: “If you want to live in *THIS* USA, you need to accept that these blacks are your co-citizens and you have absolutely no intelligent choice but to work with them.”
Your kind should have thought of that fifty years ago. Did they accept the status quo? Did they choose to move to any of the non-white, Marxist states that existed at the time? Of course not. Well, don’t expect us to accept the status quo either, particularly a status quo dripping with our blood. We’ve taken your prescription for the last fifty years, G. It turned out to be cyanide. No mas, brah. No mas.
G: “But the dreams of the white nationalist right just muddy the waters. It’s like black separatists: they help no-one. Impractical solutions.”
Self-determination is not impractical, G money. Your dogmatic fealty to unsustainable, failed, and murderous policies is, however, very much impractical. Change is coming, like it or not. I’m pushing for Czechoslovakia, but your attitude will lead to Yugoslavia. Pity you can’t (more likely won’t) see that.
On an entirely different note, I can’t resist mentioning that I did manage to take a little flak off of O here. I mean, he deserved most of what he got, but it was still a pile on, and pile ons don’t sit well with me. It’s just the kind of white nationalist I am, always willing to help a brother out. South Side!
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It wasn’t white people’s fault that a hurricane hit New Orleans. Maybe the government response could have been quicker, but it was a natural disaster.
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@Namae Nanka:
“When some accusation is made against some unknown member of the Jewish race, ALL Jews secretly take the part of the accused, and wish, hope for, and seek to establish
his innocence” (emphasis supplied).
I’ll deal with one of your ridiculous missives right here, by sharing a post I – a Jew who was in Israel as recently as yesterday – wrote about Roman Polanski, made some time ago: http://guyinism.com/uncategorized/roman-polanski-belongs-in-prison-but/#
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WOW @ the comments
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Dana, do you approve of the Jewish equivalent of 40 acres and a mule?
I’m just asking. If you don’t then you’re consistent at least.
My personal opinion on the matter is that if my family managed to survive, I have enough to be thankful for. I don’t want *anything* from the people who tried to exterminate or enslave me but my freedom from them.
If America doesn’t want me, then I don’t want America…but America shouldn’t be butthurt about my giving the benefits of having me around, to someone else.
Hollenhund, I don’t think Obsidian wants to have anyone arrested for racism. It’s just that nobody gets a break from nature.
If a person believes in biological determinism, then they have to take it on the chin if they don’t come out at the top of whatever heap. Most HBD’ers don’t want to take that knock, and are racist by the old definition because they think averages and statistics mean that they, as an individual, are better than another person, as an individual, simply for being in whatever they feel is the more favored race.
…and as far as relocating to eastern Europe well, if a man doesn’t feel he’s getting the respect he deserves in one culture, he should man up and branch out. No excuses.
I know Jews who came to Israel with nothing but the clothes on their back. Nothing is stopping a White man from going to Europe but the price of a passport.
If they think eastern European women are such angels that the hottest among them will gladly date a foreign guy with no money, and American women are such harpies, they should go.
Since most don’t then either things must not be so bad in the U.S. (and are certainly not so bad as far as getting laid in the Americas in general), or they don’t have the baws, and should suck it up and learn to settle.
The endless griping is getting nobody anywhere.
I didn’t find the kind of guy I needed in the U.S. I found one in Israel. I went to Israel.
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The explanation is simple. People love in others the qualities they would like to have but do not actually have in any great degree; so also we hate in others only what
we do not wish to be, and what notwithstanding we are partly. We hate only qualities to which we approximate, but which we realise first in other persons.
Thus the fact is explained that the bitterest Antisemites are to be found amongst the Jews themselves. For only the quite Jewish Jews, like the completely Aryan Aryans,
are not at all Antisemitically disposed; among the remainder only the commoner natures are actively Antisemitic and pass sentence on others without having once sat in judgment on themselves in these matters; and very few exercise their Antisemitism first on themselves. This one thing, however, remains none the less certain: whoever detests the Jewish disposition detests it first of all in himself; that he should persecute it in others is merely his endeavour to separate himself in this way from Jewishness; he strives to shake it off and to localise it in his fellow-creatures, and so for a moment to dream himself free of it. Hatred, like love, is a projected phenomenon; that person alone is hated who reminds one unpleasantly of oneself.
ps – if you care to read, these are the observations of a jew himself, ironic aint it.
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laura I think it goes without saying that it’s not white people’s fault but like you said, the response could’ve been much quicker. Forces from Canada and Scandinavia beat US troops to NOLA.
I can still recall George Bush saying that there is no way to get to the people. Pure BS.
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gorb
this is why i asked if you actually are american–you seem to have no conception of us demographic trends. blacks are moving back to the south in droves–they ARE southern–not african anymore
whites are consolidating in the midwest and new england and the rest is going back to mexico
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Census-2000-Data-Top-US-Ancestries-by-County.svg
we could absolutely break up into several race based countries and there would be NO reason the white co couldnt expell blacks to the black co and vice versa
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@Ryder,
– If you try to sell this, which the WN movement has been trying to do since the end of slavery (in various forms), your primary hard-sells will be white people. Most of them. Te very idea will offend their basic sensibilities.
– There’s no plus for black people in segregation. Selling them on it will be an uphill battle.
– Once the resistance to this starts, your only option will be violence. This is what tires me about White Nationalists. You’re all Big Talk about revolution and etc., but —
Virtually all the people who will die, as a result of what in effect would be a brutal civil war, would be white. Almost all of those killing them would be white.
The result would be a fractured, poor, desperate nation that, with the support of other nations, would almost certainly be more of what you hate the most.
Imagine white nationalist revolutionaries being hunted like dogs; imagine international peacekeepers, from, say, China, enforcing safe zones and helping to disarm opposing sides.
It’ll be utter disaster. Blood, death, mayhem. Lots of factions will emerge, tiny control-zones where little pockets run by tin-pot dictators and Executive Provisional Councils and etc. will attempt to maintain order, but ultimately fail. America and anything that made it worth living in will be over for generations, at the very earliest.
There’s no chance that the liberal establishment, black people, or the majority of white people will ever side with you on this.
BTW, I’m no card-carrying liberal: I’m as much of a race-realist as you are. I’m just under no illusions that the people of Sweden or Byelorussia are automatically our best friends. They’ll take chunks out of us as gladly as a bunch of Mexicans.
I’m wary of the *kind* of society you’d create, and the fact that White Nationalists are like true believers anywhere: Their absolute faith gives them the same dangerous belief, that the ends justify any means necessary. These types of revolutions are always, always bad news. They consume themselves and nothing good comes of it.
My prediction is not far off the mark, I think: White Nationalists will never get anything like majority support even from their “own” people; their brouhaha will cloud real debate more or less permanently, by example of the dangers of leaving the Liberal fold; and if they ever do get a chance, the results will so horrify and disappoint WN’s that their revolutions will end up becoming fractured, desperate, and dejected, with sad micro-states vying for crumbs at the end of Empire.
Ultimately we’ll all lose.
On the other hand, we could attempt to contrive social institutions that allow us all to live together once we’re able to be honest about our personal and group limitations. And responsibilities.
Which one do you think will cost less, in lives, investment, lost opportunities and squandered potential?
The keyboard lets people devise elaborate scenarios where their accepted internal realities are externalized.
But from a purely pragmatic perspective, unless you want to kill a whole lot of white people, more or less only white people, your putative brothers and sisters, and then run witch-hunts, and political persecutions, and create concentration camps for the kinds of people you’d actually rather have in your society – the WN movement is a total dead-end. That you can’t see this is sad.
I can see what you want to exist, what you’re rather be. But the route from here to there is hazardous and fraught with deadly peril. Your prize would be destroyed before you got it.
You’re right: If everyone just sat down and agreed with you, it’d all be great. But they’re not going to. Some will stand by, most will be opposed, it’ll get very, very ugly, and then it’ll all go to shit.
This is why White Nationalism is retarded. The route from here to there is a minefield. Other solutions may not be ideal, but that have one advantage:
They cost less. And the society you’ll end up creating is one most people wouldn’t actually like to live in.
Circumstances would make the society you want to create a place you yourself probably wouldn’t want to live in.
(and before you call me a dangerous liberal, I mention this: I’m no bleeding heart liberal. I think the borders should be defended by armed troops. Anything less is an abdication of civic responsibility. And I don’t think the problems among black Americans are delusions. I’ve formally studied evolutionary biology. I hunt in my spare time and I own guns. Black people are here to stay. Even as a white guy, I have to admit this: So why not get along? Some goddamned way).
If you think *I’m* the enemy of your ideas, then you have no chance of convincing anyone. You live too much in your world of half-truths and conspiracies.
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@Dana,
I live in an area with few black people; the ones who are here are usually well-off. There’s a core of very poor, very useless black people. They comprise the biggest problem sector.
When I go to NYC, I see more of the same, just writ large.
I rarely go to the South. I don’t know it. I know Korea better than I do Louisiana.
And where I am, “whites” may be consolidating, but a whole lotta other is consolidating, too. All the Asian immigrants do better than Americans.
I lived in LA and SF in the past. The social order among non-celebrities was: Asians and white elite – White middle class – White proles – black middle class – black proles.
Hispanics seemed to be in their own little world, disconnected from the general social (anglo) world.
Uncontrolled Hispanic immigration is the biggest threat, not black Americans. Our culture is under siege. Even giving blacks a second thought detracts from the principal danger, the danger of cultural absorption.
And that danger is real and right now. The problem of black crime can’t be solved tomorrow. But the consequences of uncontrolled hispanic immigration are going to be felt awfully soon.
Your targets are all wrong. Blacks could make natural allies.
So could lots of liberals.
Focusing on “whiteness” blinds you to the potential political alliances that could actually make a difference.
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lolzlz at blacks being my natural allies
they are nursing a historical grudge against whites in EVERY strata of their society–and if you think your nice black coworkers arent, say something politically incorrect around them without caveats and apologies–in fact, please do this as a scientific experiment and report back the results
they are rabidly anti semitic in a hilarious 19th century conspiracy theory way that rivals any WN–so that nixes an alliance with me from the outset. the whole time the stupid fucking jews in the civil rights movement were kissing their ungrateful asses and destroying the US for them leroi jones was chanting “i got the extermination blues, jewboys”
they are inimical AS A WHOLE to limited government, private property, originalist interpretation of the constitution and ordered liberty. give me ONE iota of evidence a DISCERNABLE portion of the US black population would or could ever support any of that?
in what manner could they in significant numbers prove an “ally” to anyone with any interest in the constitution as it was understood before the warren court? please tell me
i live in philadelphia–its a black city with a 50%+ black population and black run now for decades, i grew up in a black professional class neighborhood, i went to temple university in north philly (where obsidian apparently teaches), i serve them as customers. irrespective of what that idiot obsidian says, i know black people of ALL classes like the back of my hand. they have no interest in white people except for a limited interest in extracting wealth and concessions from them.
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Gorbachev, political arrangements always seem eternal and immovable. Until they disappear overnight.
This is true of multiethnic empires that much more so. When do they break up? when the money runs out, and the ruling bureaucracy starts to just go through the motions of believing their own propagada, or the empire’s raison d’etre.
I won’t go into speculating or advocating a position on the hypothetical beakup of the US. But as unthinkable as it seems now, so inevitable it will seem a day after it happens.
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Dana, just a tip…You don’t make allies by promoting their extermination or enslavement.
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nicole
point to where ive done either?
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LOL, at least this discussion isn’t further complicated by Indians insisting that we MUST MUST MUST admit millions of them to this country as well, like in some of the better flame-wars of last year.
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Well dana, thanks for that. I figured there was some reason you hate blks. It’s not cause you have empathy for whites. No sir, it’s because you’re convinced that blks want to kill jewish people. that’s right save your own butt. get whites to rub us out so you won’t feel guilty.
anti-Semitism is fairly new to blks and it’s not widespread at all. Those who buy into that stuff repeat the same conspiracy theory crap you hear people like that numbskull tupac and ryder ecoing.
just remember dana, when we go, you better find somewhere to hide cause you’re up next.
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I’m really warming up to the idea of letting black people have their own country in the South somewhere.
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laura did you look at the map?
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Wow. Yeah the majority of black people live there anyway. I’ve heard black people say the south is for them. I personally wouldn’t have a problem with giving them a huge chunk of land and letting them govern themselves. There would be a lot of resistance to it I’m sure.
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dana i know black people of ALL classes like the back of my hand. they have no interest in white people except for a limited interest in extracting wealth and concessions from them.
We look at friendship differently. the blk people you come across don’t try to befriend you because you give off a vibe that makes them feel uncomfortable.
Most people make friends with people because they have shared interests. I probably won’t have many male friends who are over the age of 50 and like to talk about the jets and retiring to Florida. Those things don’t interest me & there is a generational divide their as well.
AS A WHOLE to limited government, private property,
limited government no, because it was the government that set them free. Private property is something that most blks are fine with.
originalist interpretation of the constitution and ordered liberty
the average American of any race can’t tell you much about the constitution and you know it.
and if you think your nice black coworkers arent, say something politically incorrect around them without caveats and apologies
being my friend doesn’t mean it’s time to say to me what you’re too afraid to say to big blk tyronne. No you get know free n-word passes because you invited me to your kids christening.
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Dana, you personally haven’t directly, but some of the most vocal members of the White nationalist movement do.
Nobody cares if you all buy some land somewhere and live among yourselves. The problem is when that’s not enough for you, and everybody else is expected to follow your religion.
Nobody has yet established who is really better. When you talk about things getting worse for America after integration and such, consider that many important things got worse for Black people too.
Black people had fewer single moms, and got a better education when we were segregated. From the looks of things, we became the shitty people you think we are today because of our exposure to you.
So…you’d be surprised just how many Black people are basically conservative, if you actually talked to some of them and didn’t just make assumptions. Even some Black militants, like my parents were in the 60’s and 70’s, were and still are for limited government and private property, as well as against welfare.
All you’d have to do is walk into just about any predominantly Black church, or a historically Black college campus. We have some rip roaring debates on the topics there, and a good chunk of Black intellectuals think it’s time for Black people to latch off the teat of the government because it’s clouding our collective judgment.
Ryder is right about one thing: it is just ethnic alliances that cause Black people to vote democratic. If we had credible republicans who we were sure didn’t want to put us all back in stocks, more of us would vote for them.
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nicole If we had credible republicans who we were sure didn’t want to put us all back in stocks, more of us would vote for them.
co-sign nicole. that’s the biggest issue right there.
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Nicole,
What do you think about giving black people their own country in the south?
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Nicole,
I don’t remember anyone on here ever promoting extermination or enslavement.
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so, uh what did you direct that at me for
im not a white nationalist, i am an observer, analyst and commentator, nothing more
the only thing i have EVER advocated “doing ” to “black people” is repealing all social welfare type programs, forced desegregation, removing all government enforced affirmative action and spoils and allowing private citizens (NOT the Government) the right to exclude whomever they want for any reason
those even cant be called doing things to black people specifically as theyd effect hoards of whites and hispanics and such
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Laura, why? So Black people can be the buffer between White people and Mexicans?
I think it’s better to keep the country intact, and learn how to live in peace without forcing people to associate with people they don’t want to. That would solve most of the problems. Folks would go where they’re wanted, and not go where they’re not wanted. Whatever suffering there was to be done because of lack of diversity, which often means lack of options, would be the responsibility of the people who chose to isolate themselves.
So long as the government neither controls it nor has to foot the bill for it, cool.
Forced integration is as bad as forced segregation. Black people were never okay with depravity and debauchery outside of pure necessity, until we learned from westeners and their feminism that it was okay to be a shameless whore.
So our own country might not be a good thing, but until America gets its head out of its ass, reasserting our own culture would be nice. That’s not really your business to take care of though. It’s something Black people have to do for one another.
First though, the wealthy and middle class Black people have to remember where they came from, and give something back, instead of taking it away.
Even I do my part from a safe distance.
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”””””’I mean, he deserved most of what he got, but it was still a pile on, and pile ons don’t sit well with me. It’s just the kind of white nationalist I am, always willing to help a brother out. South Side!”””””’
Yea it is sick right we will help a brother out even if we know as a group they are bad for us lol
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/266680
Affirmative action south africa style.
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Then they shot dead her unarmed husband Dr Paul Meyer, 38, execution style, while he had desperately tried to grab one of the guns from the attackers. The widow is now staying with friends in Gravelotte, where her husband’s funeral takes place on Tuesday from the Dutch Reformed Church.
In another of the tens of thousands of horrific armed attacks against white farm families, a young South African veterinarian was shot dead in Limpopo province next to his nursing wife who was pistol-whipped. Killed was Dr Paul Meyer, 38. ””””””’
But that is whitey against high odds still trying to go out hard not just accepting fate.
”””””””’He is the 3,035 th white farm dweller to be murdered in South Africa since 1994. For updated statistics see For the original story in Afrikaans: here ””””””””
Kind of crazy that more whites died in america at the black hand then that.
http://www.timeslive.co.za/business/article576216.ece/White-men-still-dominate-workplace
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Change is easy if they want, but they are not interested. what i would like to see is that the government should discontinue funding to parastatal institutions found guilty of this crime or fire the CEOs who are partners in crime. Charity begins at home, so manage parastatals first, where a degree from a university is valued on colour and not its SAQA points. they are demoralizing youth of this country, someone from government should take note that Parastatals are really resisting change and should be targeted!
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You can learn a lot from a black man.
””””””White men are excluded overall from the active job market due to the colour of their skin, even if it means employing a darkie that is not up to scratch, then when the sam white man starts his own thing and makes aliving and succes of it as per usual he then has to hand it virtualy to a aa to gain worlk and keep his own bussines , the risk he took, the sleeples nights the endless worries and problems, hau ag nee man djulle darkies darem maar ”””””’
You can learn a lot from a white man.
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lol yes mexicans are going to shoot tungsten rods from space at us with their rods from god program, and they have all those aircraft carriers 😦 we only have 25
what will we do without the blacks as a “buffer” lol
we could schmeiss the mexicans off the planet in a day if we had the will
and if i were president
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The wealthy and middle class black people could not possibly support all the poor black people in this country, you need a lot of white people for that.
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”””””’Nicole,
Nobody cares if you all buy some land somewhere and live among yourselves. The problem is when that’s not enough for you, and everybody else is expected to follow your religion.”””””’
Have you ever heard of Waco.
Yea that was a big message not to do that.
They do care that whites want to live amongst themselves.
They killed men woman and children.
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Dana, I thought you said that your husband was a White nationalist and that your beliefs were in line with his. I apologize if I’m mistaken.
So why so much finger pointing at Black people on welfare? Isn’t it normal for most people considered to be inferior, when included in the larger group only legally, to settle to the bottom?
You know what we were like before integration. Do you figure that without government help, but now with the information age, we’ll be stronger or weaker?
I agree that welfare and affirmative action and the like should be abolished, but for entirely different reasons. Over reliance on the government is the cause of many problems in the Black community. The less we depend on handouts and the charity of others, the stronger we will be.
Maybe then, I won’t wince every time I say “we” because I’ll feel more like it’s a we, instead of feeling that my family and the others like it are so much of outliers.
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What I have noticed about wordpress is some really good comments don’t post until way later and they don’t have any links.
Like the one from granpa I reposted didn’t originally post at the time he posted it.
But a smaller comment of his did.
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Laura, if by support, you mean replace the government as a gilded cage, then no.
We can educate them though. Like they say, give a man a fish, and he’ll eat for a day, teach him how to fish, and he’ll eat forever.
Also, with certain options that are too offensive for western minds to bear, we could handle the criminal element quite easily.
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the main beneficiaries of ENDING government programs would be blacks
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It would actually be a generous offer from this country. The land in the southeast is fertile.
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and no my husbands just a racist, like most blue collar white males
hes not a ghey “white nationalist” who posts on stormfront or some shit
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””””””’Nicole
Laura, why? So Black people can be the buffer between White people and Mexicans?
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Mexicand are included in the statistics for white crime and everyone together is still lower or around equal to black crime. Even though they only make up how much percent of total population?
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Dana says, “the main beneficiaries of ENDING government programs would be blacks”
On this, we agree.
I’m not sure it’ll happen so long as feminists are in control of the government though. They’d say it was inhumane for women to have to rely on the presence of men to raise a family.
Dumbasses.
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We’d shut the feminists up fast if we could get all black people off welfare.
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”””””””It’ll be utter disaster. Blood, death, mayhem. Lots of factions will emerge, tiny control-zones where little pockets run by tin-pot dictators and Executive Provisional Councils and etc. will attempt to maintain order, but ultimately fail. America and anything that made it worth living in will be over for generations, at the very earliest.””””””’
Naa man the bosnians bounced back quick like a mug from the genocide. Whites are more resiliant than you give them credit for. Sometimes you got to cleanse with blood though it is the only thing that satifies.
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Even if we just started automation schools in us to just teach how to manufacture shit in us. We could easily own.
Then I would have been just able to start mass producing this helicopter I bought instead of having to figure it out he he he
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Guns, if Black people are more violent, then that’s an even better reason for us to regulate each other instead of relying on people who are obviously under equipped and miseducated.
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Starting at grade 4
Why is sex education so dam important but teaching real world skills is not.
Ain’t like school teaching you how to make love.
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Laura, I think first, we have to get Black men back at the head of their households.
The government is in business to keep itself in business. The status quo is hard to change when it’s profitting someone.
So the social conditions will probably have to come before the legal changes. That’s going to be extra hard now that marriage is such a bad deal for men.
Someone, I don’t remember who, mentioned having a sort of parallel system since the official one is failing. That seems a doable option, but the people with the status and influence to push it have to have the will to do so.
Maybe some famous rappers or other celebrities will have to start talking about men’s rights or something.
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”””””’Weddings in the US- in 2008 2,162,000 – in 2007 , 2,197,000,in 2006 2,160,000 (CDC) spending approximately $86 Billion Number and amounts for 2009 not available yet. This does not count the honeymoon or new household items! The number of weddings for this period Dropped by over 60,000 from the 2004-2005 season. Some of the drop was caused by not getting the 2006 stats for Louisana. If you wish to include all the items a bride will purchase 6 months prior to 6 months after her wedding the total would exceed the 120 Billion dollar mark”””’
39777 per wedding us.
”””””Over 9,000,000 weddings in China per year with an average $19,900 per wedding! Stats from China News Agency 2006””””””
19900 per wedding us.
leading indicator?
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/chinas-gdp-overtake-us-early
”””””””’China’s GDP to overtake U.S. by early 2020s, says analyst
Mainland to become world’s largest in about a decade, says Deutsche Bank””””””””
I have no education to speak of but even I figured out what the fuck was about to happen.
mua mua hahahahahah
But yea we good we even have aa and shit lol
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doesn’t matter whether we have a civil war or not asians gonna own you. he he he
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Can we go back to talking about how to get our penises into hot Estonian chicks?
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”””””’Nicole
Guns, if Black people are more violent, then that’s an even better reason for us to regulate each other instead of relying on people who are obviously under equipped and miseducated.
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They are not more violent just more criminal.
I have a violent thought every five seconds. I haven’t killed anyone for no reason.
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There are other methods of resistance than violence.
I remember in Atlas Shrugged, when all John Galt did to destory the welfare state was to persuade the 100 most productive individuals to retire.
Today, whoever controls technology controls the world. Most WNs are educated and intelligent, and to satisfy Gorby, idealistic. Whatever the public may hear about minorities in science, it is white men and asians who lead the way. At the highest levels, I almost never see balcks or latinos.
What science requires most of all, is clear vision. Seeing reality as really is. This is where race realism really shines. I would like to see the best white scientists in the US and Europe go on strike and devote our energies to countries wihich value us.
The best revenge, to me, is letting this diverse, multicultural cesspool drown in its own filth. Let them see what kinds of minds their schools produce. Let them see what their children aspire to be. What kind of future do you envision for your children?
You cannot build a first world power with third world people.
These are great times to live in. It’s a test, a challenge and that ‘s how I look at it. If the white race is truly the strongest, then we will survive. If not, we perish.
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”””””DirkJohanson
Can we go back to talking about how to get our penises into hot Estonian chicks?
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save your loot go there pick one up.
Why do you think I want to build these helicopters lol
Cost me a 170 bucks to buy but I am looking at maybe 20 bucks to build it maybe 30.
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””””’I remember in Atlas Shrugged, when all John Galt did to destory the welfare state was to persuade the 100 most productive individuals to retire. ”””””
I never read atlas shrugged but that is the solution I came up with he he he
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The problem isn’t so much race, as the persistent underclass of whatever color. We get a persistent underclass by subsidizing them with government payments.
Of the single welfare moms, how many would have kids out of wedlock if they had to support themselves and their kids by actually going out and working? If welfare in all its forms ended tomorrow, how many underclass women would continue popping out babies, and how many would get their tubes tied the same day?
If we completely made it a drag for low-skills women to have babies, and made it easier for high-income women to have more kids (by cutting taxes) we could turn things around in under a generation.
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You know it is a nice feeling when I can come up with my own shit and it matches some supposed great work.
No wonder I get respect.
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Gorbachev: “If you try to sell this, which the WN movement has been trying to do since the end of slavery (in various forms), your primary hard-sells will be white people. Most of them. Te very idea will offend their basic sensibilities.”
Let’s talk some history, G Man. While not in a purist sense, for most of American history the nation has been something approximating white nationalist. Immigration was, with precious few exceptions, limited to whites. Miscegenation was illegal in many places, and socially sanctioned where it wasn’t. Most parts of the country were, for all practical purposes, entirely white, with blacks limited largely to parts of the South and certain cities in the North. Some entire states passed laws keeping non-whites out, others allowed non-white entry as long as there was segregation.
Society as a whole was highly segregated, whether by law or simply by custom. Blacks had their own communities, whites had theirs. Blacks were not allowed to rape, murder or otherwise damage white communities. That would not have been tolerated for a New York minute – whether in Richmond or, well, New York.
Now, some far seeing whites, including some of our brightest Founders, understood that a mixed society would ultimately lead to disaster, in one form or another. How right they were. Such far seeing men advocated some form of deportation or territorial separation (Liberia, etc.). But really, there wasn’t much overall appetite for it. Under segregation, blacks were not allowed to inflict their ills on the broader society. They simply were not a major problem.
Today, we face an entirely different situation. The country, on many levels, is being destroyed. Blacks are simply one of the more visible parts of the problem, but of small importance overall. In fact, I really shouldn’t call it a country anymore. It is simply an empire, held together by brute force. Empires fail, G. You know that. It also doesn’t take a genius to see that our empire is unsustainable, on many levels. You like to offer various neato solutions, but the very nature of our empire prohibits it from acting on any of them. This society cannot solve fundamental problems anymore. You’re like the guy offering all these super nifty ideas to a retard, and then you are baffled when he doesn’t act on any of them. He CAN’T act on any them. Don’t you get it?
Gorbachev: “There’s no plus for black people in segregation. Selling them on it will be an uphill battle.”
Again, I’m for self-determination, not old style segregation.
In any event, I’m not trying to sell them on it, though I maintain that they would likely be better off in the long run. But, for now, they get to rape, murder, consume enormous transfers of white tax dollars, and gain special privileges of many kinds. Good luck convincing them to give that up. Some of the more far sighted amongst them can see the problems inherent in all of this, but for the most part, living off of whitey is living large, or at least appears to be.
G: “Once the resistance to this starts, your only option will be violence. This is what tires me about White Nationalists. You’re all Big Talk about revolution…”
Who’s talking big, G Man?
G: “It’ll be utter disaster. Blood, death, mayhem.”
We don’t know that. Many countries have broken up in recent history, including a massive empire. Some breakups have been bad, others not so much. If it’s a bloodbath, it will be because fanatics such as yourself are determined to resist self-determination. The crazy Puritan strain of New Englander which you seem to emerge from (assuming you aren’t Jewish)is far more likely to elicit a bloodbath than ethnic separatist types who simply want to be left alone and control their own destiny. So be it.
G: “Ultimately we’ll all lose.”
Whites are losing now. They are, and this is not mere hyperbole, heading for not just minority status, but TINY minority status. For all practical purposes, extinction. That’s just the demographic tide alone. In addition, they are being murdered and raped, right now, as we type away with our esoteric debate. We have nothing to gain by staying under a System that is hellbent on replacing us. Your position is much like that of telling a man who has six months to live that he’s crazy for trying a different treatment. What has he got to lose?
In any event, white nationalists aren’t likely to make real headway as long as the System remains stable. However, the Empire is unsustainable, and long term stability may become elusive. Surely you can see that. If there is full on calamity ahead, as you predict (but blame on WN), it will be because of the System, not because of white nationalists. But the white nationalist solution will be there, and hopefully we will have the wisdom to take it. Self-determination is not utopian, but a proven winner in the real world. Far more sustainable than empire.
G: “Black people are here to stay. Even as a white guy, I have to admit this: So why not get along?”
The real question that you should be asking is “Are white people here to stay?”
In any event, I’m sure that the Prussians thought they were there to stay. I’m sure the white French living in Algeria thought they were there to stay. I’m sure the white Rhodesians thought they were there to stay. I could give numerous examples, just from recent decades.
Point is, everybody thinks that, wherever they are, they are there to stay. And they are right, until the day that they are wrong. Whites have been, in essence, ethnically cleansed from many neighborhoods across the country. I’m sure they all thought they were there to stay, as well. See how this works, G Man? Life gives no guarantees to anybody, or any people. If a people won’t or can’t defend themselves, they will be swept away. This applies to whites as much as anybody else.
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@MichaelC
The problem isn’t so much race, as the persistent underclass of whatever color. We get a persistent underclass by subsidizing them with government payments.
Race affects this, but the tenor is correct. Culture can make a difference.
If we completely made it a drag for low-skills women to have babies, and made it easier for high-income women to have more kids (by cutting taxes) we could turn things around in under a generation.
Maybe two. But it could happen.
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”””””’MichaelC
The problem isn’t so much race, as the persistent underclass of whatever color. We get a persistent underclass by subsidizing them with government payments.
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Oh yea dude go to a white trailer park. It is real bad real bad.
Oh wait no the fuck it is not.
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It amuses me to hear about how “genetic engineering” will make race irrelevent.
How many people on this board understand what it takes to wrest secrets from mother nature?
I’m not taking about mental understanding. I’m taking about doing it; sleepless nights, discipline, carrying around a notebook, obsession. One does not meet the best scientists in the world in bars or dance clubs. There are people working, sweating, breaking their hearts to move our species forward.
There is no “we” in science.
[Editor:
And word by word they handed down the light that shines today
And those who came at first to scoff, remained behind to pray]
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I’m taking about doing it; sleepless nights, discipline, carrying around a notebook, obsession.
sounds like Roosh’s Day Game Workshop
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@Ryder,
What if blacks choose to self-determine themselves to live with everyone else?
Most white people will still not back the idea. Democracy and all that shit. Losta folks like it.
Sell segregation or cleansing of any kind.
Why is it the country isn’t all into White Nationalism yet?
I tell you: it’s not going to happen.
The only practical and immediate solution is to get along and try to clean up the mess.
Fracturing the US and creating Americanistans isn’t going to go cleanly.
You can dream, but it’s not.
The problem is getting from here – to – there.
No good way to do it or sell it.
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This is sooooooo alpha!!! It’s turning me on!!heeeeee heeee!! Okaaaay, I know it’s serious, so continue….
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We already know what turns most bitches on.
Hitting them in the face with a stack of ones. lol
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There are exceptions of course he he he
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The blond girl singing is named Lenna Kuurmaa and she’s in a band called Vanilla Ninja, which is a girl pop group with 2 other smoking Estonian blonds
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””””’Vanilla Ninja””””’
lol
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Wow, this tread’s still alive and kicking.
@Ryder
I’m not at all a white nationalist. Don’t read their sites and was brought up and in some ways still am a SWPL except politically. (Well my parents were slavish trend followers at all.) I agree with Gorb that blacks and whites need to live together. I don’t agree with you separationist ideas. However this I do agree with:
The simple fact is that, today, it is white countries and only white countries that are subjected to this, and whites and only whites are expected to become minorities in their own lands. This is not expected of any non-white country. Such an assault on whites is grossly, insanely unjust, and it must be opposed.
In particular we need to end the mass immigration of heavily Indio Mexicans (usually from their sourthern states like Chiapas) and Central Americans. We should deport our illegals. Of course it can be done – it’s just a leftist lie that it would be so hard. It’s just nuts to allow the mass immigration of anyone but particularly people whose anchor children then are eligible for affirmative action.
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Gorbachev–
By creating the Empire, the Brits guaranteed this process would happen.
This is complete nonsense. The Brits didn’t have to allow in mass commonwealth and claiming refugee immigration just because they used to have an Empire. The didn’t in fact when they still had that empire. They simply decided to post WWII for the first time.
Instead it was the whole anti white racism meme post Hitler. The west has rather gone to the other extreme since.
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Black’s hatred of whitey is really misplaced. In not so distant future, they will be hunted down and what’s left displaced by the tribe coming from South. It is not if, but when.
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Whitey? Displaced from some areas too, but not hunted down. Messicans aren’t stupid. They don’t want to kill their host. They just see black as the other parasite.
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As with FreeRepublic.com, the tail end of posts on this blog go off on a tangent.
@Gorby
After 15 hours away from the computer, why am I not surprised that *nobody* weighed in on @Ryder’s bizarre idea that an Alpha male would or should supposedly take the feelings of any woman’s brother into account before dating her. And what’s with his new definition of Alpha = someone who protects his sister from foreigners.
Would you stop gaming Korean girls if you met a few insecure Korean guys who said “its not fair that you are here dating our women”?
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@Ryder
For Pete’s sake, by your own logic you are saying that an American Alpha, like a Turkish Alpha, would travel the world spreading his seed and not give a flying fuck what some nationalistic brothers or fathers think about that.
I said that your mind was entering Beta territory if you think otherwise. The hypothetical Japanese brother would neither be Beta nor Alpha for having a nationalistic opinion. Nobody defines Alpha/Beta on how well they “guard” their sister.
Our troops are putting holes in the heads of Muslims who would get violent about our dating their sisters.
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@Ryder
While I wouldn’t go so far as to say that all wars are “Sexual Resource” or even “Sexual Access” motivated, the reality on the ground is that American men benefitted sexually in a big way as a result of the three world wars this past century.
This is human nature and you said so yourself. Only you promote the Beta idea that American men be politically correct and not behave like Turkish Alphas.
Half of Stormfront would agree that what a few nationalistic brothers and fathers of foreign women think is not a major issue either on a micro or macro scale. No Alpha male is going to be afraid of getting shot by a wacko brother or father and, frankly, you don’t see any news about American men being shot by foreign fathers/brothers.
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@Ryder
If you want to just say that white men should voluntarily abstain from dating non-white women, then do so.
That would end all argument (as well as any remote possibility that the WNs could ever be taken seriously by the majority of single white males).
This discussion we’re having often crops up at Stormfront and it results in a knock-down drag-out fight that splits the membership. On the one side you get the social conservative anti-premarital sex WNs who are almost always married and hen-pecked and who never learned game or spent much time traveling and meeting women. The other Stormfront guys know that it is only the older WN women who benefit from men voluntarily abstaining from sex with foreign women.
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@Citizen Renegade
A good post idea would be Nationalist Cockblocking and how to counter it.
In Iraq and Afghanistan, Americans just kill the motherfuckers who are too serious about keeping their women for themselves.
@Ryder
If you are going to argue with me in favor of the idea that an Alpha male would defer to the feelings of any woman’s brother or father, then don’t deliberately misunderstand what I wrote.
In Turkey, no male ever puffed himself out and blocked me from dating anyone. Islam’s influence seemed to. It is no coincidence that we are in a war with Islam now. Human nature doesn’t stand for institutionalized cockblocking.
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Since half of Stormfront (main White Nationalist website) has already agreed with me on this point, and thus a 50:50 split can’t even agree on important topics such as how men should behave sexually, how the hell are they going to get organized for any revolution where single white males (the troops) will have to take the main role?
@Ryder You don’t foment successful revolutions by coming onto popular men’s forums and advocating sexual abstention in deference to the fweelings of women’s little bwothers.
The WN movement needs to get rid of its sexually repressed faction before it can ally with the bulk of Alpha white males. Otherwise, no, we won’t put up WNs acting up with weapons.
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@Nicole and @Obsidian
I only logged on to Stormfront to help steer the conversation away from being anti-male and anti-sex, not because I’m a WN. Females controlled Stormfront a few years ago just like the KKK was controlled by the WKKK for 100 years. I wanted to see that real heterosexual males controlled the WN movement.
I’d like to see WN males at least pretend to be real men, not motivated by the plaintive wails of their aging wives to have sex only with them.
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hey jerry,
i am younger and possibly closer to WN than the regulars you tend to address (though i haven’t gleaned much from Ryder age-wise… i am 29) (… not to Shame him… all his points are salient and repeatable without controversy)
so, i agree with all of Ryder’s assertions, and though i empathize with most of yours, they stop ringing true with me when you insist that ‘alpha’ trumps all else regarding women of different tribes, to the point of overcoming some respect for different culture.
myself, i can “respect” and “appreciate” the various positivities of ‘interlopers’. we live in a harmony that has its boundaries.
i play a little fantasy football (no beta). one league is run by a Moskovitz – i named my franchise the “Perfidious Jews”. another is run by a brotha – there, i go by “White HB Power O”.
first guy just wifed up a white, second guy has been wifed up to a spicante. but not mine! what i mean is: the diaspora is huge now… but if you respect me, stay out of my lineage until you get the blessing, or we will be forced to confront those unspeakable prejudices that western society doesn’t allow. this is not in dis-accord with anything “white” past common courtesy (no altruist)
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@CC
Nothing wrong with telling your sister and her prospective boyfriends what you think.
But would you crawl out of bed with a 10 because her 15 year old punk brother walked in and said “shame on you” to her? Didn’t think so.
I once saw a Russian man trying to pick up some female sunbathers. I moved in and they liked me better. He was fuming and said “Give me your passport. My father is with the police and I’m going to have you deported”. The girls and I just laughed at him.
Americans abroad do not defer to insecure local guys.
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say i’ve made a nipponese buddy, but he doesn’t like me dating his nip sister or even his two nip cousins!
then, there is his trashbag second-cousin who wants my slow-twitch muscle-fiber sperm for her sumo child… giant calf muscles and all that…well, if han-san denies her that, then we are probably not going to be able to be friends with each other
thus, false premise on your part. don’t get me wrong – whites are the best! (as if this wasn’t obvious)
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@CC
Hypothetical 10 sister and two 9 cousins plus the cow cousin.
If the “buddy” is OK with you being with the cow cousin but not the others, he can go to Hell of course. You will fuck his sister and his two cousins together if that is what *they* want.
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But would you crawl out of bed with a 10 because her 15 year old punk brother walked in and said “shame on you” to her? Didn’t think so.
would you sleep soundly in her brother’s bed, or even in the bed you retreated to, knowing her dis-proprietors were not content?
heh, would i sleep with a 16 yr old replacement Olsen twin? that would definitely Stick It To Tha Man
jerry, you are not “flossing on my level”
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ok this has gone overboard, truly
i suspect JEW mischief!!!!
nonetheless, white power!
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@CC
It would, of course, be cowardly to worry about “revenge” of a brother for sleeping with his sister.
Many Stormfronters would agree.
When you are (soon) over 30 you will see this happens in the USA regarding your age. Fathers and brothers will react negatively if they learn their 18-23 yr old sister is dating a guy over 30. Your strategy (besides fibbing about your age in the first place) will be to meet these guys less and less and not have your gf advertise to them how great the older guy they’re dating is…besides, it isn’t healthy for an MLTR to meet too many family members of a gf who can later spot you out with another woman.
If the woman is really into you and tells you her father or brother disapprove because of your age…you won’t break up with her in deference to their feelings.
@Roissy
Pls take a second to confirm this – An Alpha doesn’t defer to the feelings of any cockblocker, including any of a woman’s family or friends.
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It’s a given that it is pure cowardice for a man to worry about a brother’s revenge for sleeping with his adult sister.
Outside the Muslim world, such revenge never happens. And there’s a reason why US troops have been killing off a lot of the “honor killing” type of Muslim male over the past 9 years.
This whole way of “repress your sister’s choices” is going the way of the dinosaur and isn’t an accepted idea in the WN movement by any means.
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jerry, are you fucking kidding me? that i could let my sister get dicked down by my big ten football team and pump it up in the name of school pride??
you are out of your gourd right now
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@CC
If that’s what she wants, the football team would put you in a headlock and make you watch. If you tried to take revenge, they would have every right to take revenge back.
There was a battle in Iraq resulting from an American patrol buying home-made porn in Baghdad. Tens of thousands of the type of guy who would get angry about that were then killed in the ensuing months in that area.
If there’s a violent revolution in the USA, the center right forces that will control the military will take the opportunity to eliminate American Taliban types as well (which will make the new government popular across the board).
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@CC
A long comment stuck in moderation explains that, when you turn 30, many American dads and brothers will consider you inappropriate for the 18-21 year old daughter/sister.
You will be pure Beta if you defer to their fweelings and let that stop you in any way.
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CC
People have competing interests. You can try to explain to me that if I was a moral and just and good person, I’d respect your interest and not deflower your teenage daughter. You can threaten me.
In the end, I’ll be fucking your daughter, given the chance. That’s in my best interest. Catch me if you can.
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And I agree that this bros before hos notion is gay.
The point is to fuck the girl. It makes no difference that she has parents and brothers who don’t want you to. That’s their business. A man takes care of his OWN business.
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And yes, CC, Jerry is right It’s beta to ask permission from family members to fuck a girl. Only a pussy follower of convention and social underling would ask permission for that. The very notion is beta to the bone.
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Thanx @XSplat for delivering the voice of reason.
The slippery slope a misguided WN makes (as opposed to a level-headed WN which exists) is that they start with “I wouldn’t let a black dude date my sister” (which automatically calls for a total loss of your own flesh and blood’s civil rights) and then they *logically* figure that its only fair and balanced to cheer on any foreign guy who might kill an American for dating his sister (treason) which might lead to “I would have the right to kill the whole college football team if my sister partied with them” (mass murder – I’m not saying anyone here just condoned killing a football team but that is where the logic leads).
And then we’re supposed to join the WN in a violent “revolution” to make America a better place. WNs need to clean up their act.
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@Roissy
In the interest of raising the IQ level on this blog, consider coming down very hard on this “Respect a Woman’s Brother’s Veto” issue and even doing a post on it.
@Ryder might continue with his rhetorical diarrhea that condones the idea of men asking permission from women’s families. I can shut him down easily, but the WNs who come to this blog need to know in no uncertain terms that their viewpoint on this is Beta to the Bone. It is highly controversial even on Stormfront.
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Stormfront is largely a bunch of Betas deferring to their womenfolk just as the KKK deferred to the WKKK.
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I’ve never understood this bros before hos mentality. What, I’m supposed to prefer the company of men to fucking my girl(s)?
Just like certain kinds of music that don’t move me, that notion has no resonance with anything inside me.
My bumpersticker reads “I’d rather be fucking”. Not “I’d rather be watching football with the guys.”
Bros before hos guys are basically beta gamers. Go team! Woot woot!
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$10 says Jerry has never even thrown a punch in his life.
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@Manuel
Try me. Regardless, I’ll fuck your sister if she’s a 9 or 10 while your opinion on the matter won’t matter to me.
In your particular case, I’d game your wife with no feeling of remorse toward you.
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News from Alaska: The feminist Republican Murkowski has conceded. She voted for VAWA in 2005 and finally had to go.
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A general idea that’s really Beta to the Bone is the concept that a “man” should violently interfere in his own sister’s choices. This “defers to women” even if one makes the macho mistake of thinking “No, I’m forcing my sister to defer to me”.
Violence in the name of sexual regulation is sick.
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Jerry, I’d like to watch you “game” anyone, ever.
It’d be great amusement for men and women alike, what with your incredibly smooth pickup lines like… what was it?… “you only have about six weeks of peak attractiveness left before the ageing process sets in”, or something like that.
You’re the same guy who offered this tremendous advice to guys who’ve suffered flaking from a woman… and I quote…
No, you’re not desperate at all. I bet you’re just swimming in pussy.
I would love to see a video of your “game”. In fact, you could even get rich (you could market it as a whole video of exactly what you shouldn’t do to get pussy).
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Translation: “Waaaahhh, I don’t know how to fight, but I still want the spoils of victory. Gimme! Gimme! I want! Waaaahhhh!”
Buck up, dude. Risk should be proportional to return; if it’s not, then there is a problem.
Pussy.
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Murkowski’s defeat for the US Senate (to Tea Party candidate Joe Miller) also means the Beta Mitch McConnell (prospective GOP Senate Majority Leader) has been knee-capped.
He had Murkowski and Kay Bailey Hutchison, both feminist Republican Senators, as his main advisors.
A Republican win in November might have meant the same old anti-male regime staying put.
It probably still will, but its good to see Alaskans make a statement.
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@Manuel
It sounds like you’re poor and insecure about the fact that richer guys actually do better given the same amount of game. And note that you’re joining with two feminists on that argument. Write an essay against feminism now so one can see you’re not a feminist troll.
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Jerry
It’s not sick – it’s a viable strategy. It just happens to be a viable beta strategy.
Men cockblocking as a group to maintain access to pussy is likely a hardwired evolutionary response. I’m not surprised that you don’t have it. Since you don’t FEEL it, and are negatively influenced by it, it’s distasteful to you.
But the beta boys are nothing other than a union. Which can be effective.
You and I are more like union busters.
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@Manuel
Nuclear negging is often discussed on this blog. Nitpicking about English phraseology is just that. The Italian or Scandinavian feminist doing the nitpicking openly said that she saw nothing wrong with the concept of a nuclear neg in appropriate situations.
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@Manuel
You aren’t a male. No way.
There’s nothing logical about what you just said.
If I am not afraid to fuck the wife of a guy who just said something like you did, where in that is an indication that I am not ready to fight?
Read what @XSplat just said. You would be following a Beta strategy regarding violence in the name of sexual regulation.
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hahahaha jerry is such a dumb piece of shit.
1) jerry you’re not alpha, everybody and their blind mother can see this.
2) the only endorser you have right now is xsplat, who openly admits he fled the united states because he’s an ugly retarded piece of shit who can’t do well with girls unless they’re fucking poor and way below him in status (read: 2s)
3) before you starting being a stupid retard, remember that you’re not actually supposed to want girls who are below you in status, you’re supposed to convince higher-status girls that they’re below you in status
4) bros before hos, man. this entire thread is a testament to the fact that you have never in your life had the respect of a man. hell, you’ve probably never had the respect of a woman. and before you start: xsplat also has never had the respect of a single man in his entire life, which is why he argues like a girl.
5) if you were an alpha, you would have a male sense of honor. which means you wouldn’t fuck around with your friends’ family members unless you had their blessing. that said, you’re not an alpha so continue to sneak in the back door and slip into bed with your friends’ sisters, just don’t come running to us when the sister cries rape and five angry men beat the living shit out of you.
6) i really, really want to meet you in person so i can smack you upside the head. stop being a dweeby shit-eating douchebag and MAN THE FUCK UP.
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Ryu, scientists trying to be social engineers is what got us into the current mess in the first place.
The point Obsidian is trying to make is that IQ isn’t everything. In fact, a higher IQ can be detrimental if it doesn’t come with some “EQ”.
I’d go even further in applying that to the history and hey, the current political situation: where Asians and White do better in the sciences, they suck at the social engineering. Before Black Americans were essentially dumbed down by forced integration, feminism, and handouts to sweeten the pot, we managed to have a very well functioning subculture in spite of real oppression.
The supposed progress and advancements in American culture look really good on paper, but bit us in the ass in real life.
The African and African American way is to be only liberal enough to survive. When your back is against the wall, you may have to whore to survive, become a roving cock to protect yourself or to have a chance to breed at all when your women have their backs against the wall, or steal and deal drugs to eat. Once we had even the slightest opportunity though, we bounced right back into the hard core kind of conservativism, which started at home with regulating the women and raising responsible men. One would try to raise responsible women too, but things being as they are, a good bit of that had to be reward and punishment oriented.
Ask any working Black man south of DC what he would do if his daughter came home pregnant from a guy she wasn’t at least engaged to or cohabiting with/common law married to.
I know more than one woman whose dad beat the crap out of nearly every inch of her body except her belly…but that was about 20 years ago, before the state could press charges on behalf of domestic abuse victims who didn’t want to report it. Up to then, almost nobody would think of it unless we were worried dad was going to kill the girl.
Even worse was welfare, which allows women to run away if they get pregnant, and get protection from the state. When there was no protection, Black women didn’t make babies out of official or unofficial wedlock unless they were willing to do some struggling for it…and a nurturing woman will do that struggling for her babies. So the single mothers there were, were often admirable women.
One of the reasons our abortion rate is higher is likely because so many of us, to this day, despite welfare and domestic abuse laws, are so afraid of our fathers.
If we’re not afraid of our fathers, we’re afraid of what will happen when the guy we were shagging finds out that we weren’t really on the pill or something. You hear a lot about the shiftless pricks who walk out, but you don’t hear much about the kind of brothers who will own you when you have their baby, or women who simply find it tantamount to rape, torture, and murder to use a man’s genetic material without his explicit permission, or the ones who feel it is a fate worse than death to be on welfare unless you’re legitimately disabled, and sometimes even then. One of my aunts kept working even with pancreatic cancer. She just went to her doctor’s appointments but refused treatments or surgery that would make her dependent, put on her wig, did her job, and died in her sleep at the age of 51. It wasn’t worth it to her to live a few extra years laying in bed and drawing a government check.
That’s Black people. Because it’s not on the evening news, White people can more easily convince themselves that it doesn’t exist, but it’s there.
Despite Barack Obama’s White mother and liberal politics, he knows it’s there too, and wants very badly to appear to be a part of that kind of Black.
Like it or not, the fact that he is where he is, ought to tell you something about what Black people are good for, and why y’all need us more than we need you.
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Sounds like our hateful Italian feminist @Esteri is “anonymous” here:
[the only endorser you have right now is xsplat]
This reflects the feminist perception, often used by @Esteri, that even if a guy was just arguing against such friendly types as White Nationalists, it still counts to say “nobody likes you”.
Then again feminists really don’t have a problem with racism. Their agenda on this blog is definitely *not* to deal with that.
By the way, Roissy can and should confirm that its Beta to ask a woman’s family’s permission to date her.
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[Xsplat…can’t do well with girls unless they’re fucking poor and way below him in status (read: 2s)]
This reflects the Marxist feminist view that men should value DC lawyers. If Xsplat is getting 9s who aren’t feminist, then they *are* higher status than the indoctrinated types this “anonymous” poster wants to sell.
[bros before hos, man]
Roissy recently wrote an entire post saying that this concept has serious limits.
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Yes, Jerry, Manuel is a girl. And the anonymous below her is also Manuel.
I never made it through any of her comments. I’m bored with stupid trolls. They used to do something for me, but like certain drugs, you outgrow them after a while and just move on past em.
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[if you were an alpha, you would have a male sense of honor. which means you wouldn’t fuck around with your friends’ family members unless you had their blessing]
The context stated above was that a Japanese “friend” told a hypothetical American that he was not genetically suitable for his sister. That would end the friendship in the mind of any Alpha.
Even in the context of meeting an American friend’s sister and having *her* want to take things further, the blessing might be sought but it ultimately wouldn’t be the deciding factor (her mind, her body and her enthusiasm would be the deciding factor).
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Jerry, my feelings on feminism are irrelevant, but you ought to be cheerleading it all the way; after all, feminists are the primary force against the sex-regulating violence that you so despise.
Also, in terms of short-term game, money is not necessarily an
advantage: if you’re dumb enough to flash the cash, bitches will string you along for longer. But this is besides the point, as you are someone who actually (with a straight face) advocates offering all-expenses-paid international vacations to women you aren’t even fucking. Not … even … fucking.
Read your own words and weep: you’re a tool. A sucker. A mark.
Hint: One of the primary tactics women use to get money from guys at little to no cost, in terms of sexuality, is to … pretend to be virgins. Ever entertain the thought that your surprisingly streetwise “virgins” actually aren’t?
You write like a guy who has just started to read sites in this corner of the internet. Give a kid a hammer, everything becomes a nail; give a dumb guy four CR posts and everything is suddenly blamed on feminism (including things like lack of sex regulating violence, in which case feminism is actually your best friend).
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@Roissy
Pls check to see if the IP addresses of the feminist trolls are the same and confirm the fundamental maxim that Bros Before Hos has serious limits.
@Manuel went through a lot of trouble to dig up old quotes of mine that I’m supposed to feel ashamed of. Only a female with an agenda would do that.
What is really sick is that feminists have no qualms about joining White Nationalists in a pile on.
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“if you were an alpha, you would have a male sense of honor.”
Hogwash.
Honor is for followers. Leaders create the frame, honor be damned. Alphas act in their best interest.
You are thinking that anything positive is Alpha. It’s not. That war hero who died jumping on a grenade is not alpha. He’s an hero.
The Alpha is the guy who avoided the draft and stayed in the states and is fucking the war hero’s wife.
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I can’t imagine a more perfect example of a beta than a soldier. The guy will die in your service. What a sap.
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””””’why y’all need us more than we need you.””’
Come on now ka ka ka keep it real.
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Honor is servile.
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@Manuel
Now at least you’re writing like a male but your research of two sentences out of 10,000 showed you have too much time on your hands.
Do you really want to start a grown up discussion of money game that flies above your childish statements? There is a difference between making reference to a possible future trip to Scotland and actually making the trip without sex.
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@Manuel
If you are such a good follower of what I write, you will know that I’m one of the primary opponents of the VAWA law on the Internet…I can write a book or two about how asshole White Knighers help feminists regulate phony “abuse”.
However, its still Beta to threaten violence regarding behavior that is your sister’s business and not yours.
Its still Beta to beg permission of a woman’s family before you fuck her.
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The Alpha is the guy who avoided the draft and stayed in the states and is fucking the war hero’s wife.
Yeah, well, that can be a viable strategy, too, but you better be able to fight. And if the shit hits the fan, you better be able to magically fight hundreds of guys by yourself, because if that’s your strategy then you’re going to have zero people on your side when it all goes south.
Cuckoo strategies exist in society, sure. But guys taking on more beta strategies should also have every right to kill the cuckoo and to smash his offspring headfirst against the nearest wall, with impunity.
Balance.
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@Manuel
Correction: Its neither Beta nor Alpha to threaten or imply violence regarding your sister’s decisions. The Roissy definition of Alpha and Beta deal with what you do to get laid yourself and has nothing to do with what you do or not do regarding your sister (unless you’re into incest).
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Shit satans a pussy too. Bunch of satanic fags.
If your gonna go 100 vs 3000 take off your shirt lol
When the meat meets the meat he he he
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@Manuel
If you kill the guy who cuckolds you, other men are likely to put you in the electric chair or put you away for life. The attitude would be that you were a sore loser. Yes, feminists would not be on your side either…but for different reasons.
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Gunslinger — re: video
Yep, those Eastern Europeans. So much more civilized than blacks and Mexicans, they are.
Those extra IQ points have really helped them build an amazingly prosperous country, no?
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If you kill the guy who cuckolds you, other men are likely to put you in the electric chair or put you away for life.
That’s another innovation of feminism, idiot. In patriarchal societies, such retaliation would be condoned, if not encouraged outright.
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Well yea they went in there with just fists that is hard shit.
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Something you can respect.
I can’t respect niggers.
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@Manuel
True men’s rights advocates aren’t looking to reverse the sexual revolution and bring back social conservatism.
Regarding the preference for virgins…I’ve stated before that women will lie about this. That’s better than openly admitting they’re Sex and the City types. No need for you to have felt animosity all this time about someone else’s preference.
Its good you are getting obvious misunderstandings off your chest. You seem to have been saving my quotes in a special file just dying for the chance to explode on the scene.
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”””””””Those extra IQ points have really helped them build an amazingly prosperous country, no?
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lol us sure as shit hasen’t been disrespecting them like it has muslims and africans lol
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Manuel, you can think in terms of rights, if that’s easier for you. I think in more Machievelian terms. There are no rights. There are only, as you nearly say, strategies.
Sometimes you’ve got to fight.
Some people think that all things associated with masculinity are Alpha. It aint so. A lot of masculine traits are paternal and group oriented, and regard to duty. None of that is alpha. Alpha is primarily selfish. You don’t fight other peoples wars. You don’t bow down to the king. You don’t honor and obey anyone or anything. You are the king. You are not subservient, even and especially to god.
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[In patriarchal societies, such retaliation would be condoned, if not encouraged outright]
No, this is happening in Islam – and its part of the reason why the troops are blowing holes in the heads of the Muslims who think this way.
And, yes, I am well aware of how the State Department is trying to spread the anti-male kind of feminism in the Middle East and the rest of the Muslim world. Stopping “honor killings” and male on male violence nonsense is not anti-male however.
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above is xsplat.
Put it another way: If I were a factory worker, it would be more alpha to go union. If I were a factory owner, it would be more alpha to be a union buster.
Being alpha has nothing to do with nobility and serving the greater good. It has to do with creating and successfully implementing your own, individual, self oriented frame.
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””””””’xsplat
I can’t imagine a more perfect example of a beta than a soldier. The guy will die in your service. What a sap.
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Look at xsplat trolling.
Kind of cute like a little teddy bear.
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Xsplat, I am keeping it real. You’re currently shagging women you’re neither legally married to, nor to whom you consider yourself sentimentally or otherwise accountable once they age out.
That is not civilized.
Civilization requires honor, and yes it is beta, but love is submission. If you have either, you care more about someone or something else than you do yourself.
As much as I value independent thought, I am in some ways envious of followers for their ability to apparently feel that kind of attachment to more than their own sphere of influence and family. Despite its drawbacks, it is a part of human nature that, not having it, makes me sometimes feel less than human. I cover it up sometimes by pretending that I think I am “more human than human”.
Which mentality is more right or wrong is something I consider a pointless argument to have. In this, it takes all kinds. Everybody can’t be a follower, and everybody can’t be a leader, and whether or not someone is a leader or follower, scale matters, not just hierarchy.
So on a large scale, a family patriarch may not be the alpha male of his nation, but he is the alpha male of his family. He may be a follower of his culture, but it is within his right as a leader of his family group to enforce their standards.
Loss of this leads to a level of debauchery that is maladaptive and destrutive to higher numbers of individuals, not just to the culture at large.
This is the one reason why, though I have contempt for them on a personal level, I can’t be all out angry with my two stealth racist ex boyfriends. Something in this world is more important to them than getting their dicks wet, so my honorable guy filters were working swimmingly even though my independent thinker selection filter was out of whack due to cultural misunderstanding.
Ideals are great things to muse about, and good standards to live by if you have the balls…but advising normals that it’s better for them to mock being indies is misguided. They can’t do it right. It’s not in their DNA.
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You get to do thing that are in your nature. What company in the world could I have worked for where I knocked out my boss and gained more rights and got an arcom.
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Nicole, I am not out to give the impression that honor is worthless or that individuals are better off without it.
I’m correcting a gross misconception about the nature of Alpha. Some people conflate it with “masculine good”.
Many masucline traits that are in the dictionary definition of good are beta.
We have to face up to it. Being an alpha is being a dick.
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Oh, come on Gunner. I know you are soldier, but I’m sure even you can admit. What is more beta than “Sir! Yes Sir!”
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Yea I could have started own company and chosen to have work and life somehow be enough like woman but since I am not a woman lol
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Some people think that all things associated with masculinity are Alpha.
Alpha this
Alpha that
Xsplat, who are you addressing? I have said nothing about alpha vs. beta.
Indeed I find the whole concept tiresome, because the terms are basically meaningless; any term that encapsulates both the union strategy and the union-buster strategy, depending on circumstance, is at best vacuous. You may as well argue about the meaning of “fulfillment”, or “winner”, or other such claptrap.
It has to do with creating and successfully implementing your own, individual, self oriented frame.
Up to a point. You’d be hard pressed to make this argument for people whose “own, individual frame” revolves around success at video games, though.
Or for people who move to smaller ponds so that they can become bigger fish.
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What I have noticed about wordpress is some really good comments don’t post until way later and they don’t have any links
I don’t know if my commetns are always really good but ninety percent of the time I try to post something, it just disappears when I hit “submit comment” and sometimes doesn’t post for twelve hours. Very annoying.
Yep, those Eastern Europeans. So much more civilized […] Those extra IQ points have really helped them build an amazingly prosperous country, no?
There was that tiny little thing called Communism, dork. And who cares about IQ. The men are cool, the girls are hot, what more could you ask for. Their countries are prosperous enough (despite communism) and not bloated third world vacuums like the West. Oh yeah, and eastern European average IQs are among the highest in the world.
And speaking of crime and such, one unfortunate effect of HBD nerdling-talk is this idea that the exact opposite of being a retard low IQ criminal is being a good little girl scout. No, the opposite of being a retard low IQ criminal is to be capable of swift violence but rule over it with a code of honor.
I like Gunslinger’s sentiment: “Somethings you can respect.”
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*the terms as you use them are meaningless. There are ways to use them in which they have some meaning, but alpha = selfish frame is not one of them.
If that’s the case, why bother with “alpha” at all? Why not just “selfish”?
Your whole insistence on using “alpha” all the time is actually an indicator that there must be some significant difference between “alpha” and “selfish”, else you wouldn’t be so ardent about using the former.
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There was that tiny little thing called Communism, dork
Ha.
Like Russia would’ve put people in outer space if it weren’t for communism.
Shit. Like they would’ve even built a fucking railroad without communism.
Thugs = thugs = thugs.
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Manuelina, wasn’t it you who said “if you were an alpha, you would have a male sense of honor.” ?
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was a soldier but yea it is a test of manhood against other men.
In the old school if you didn’t like the instruction you could go toe to toe with the boss giving it.
So not really beta at all but then you got females involved and sure it has been ruined to a large degree but not completely.
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Manuelina, wasn’t it you who said “if you were an alpha, you would have a male sense of honor.” ?
Um, no.
Apparently your browser deletes your username every time you post (hence your random anonymous posts), but, mine doesn’t.
More than two people read this board. Imagine that.
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@Manuel
[Or for people who move to smaller ponds so that they can become bigger fish]
This is why I was sure you were a feminist earlier. Its the illogical mantra that aging female DC lawyers use to try to shame American men into “playing in the big leagues” – which means playing with their fat asses.
If Poland, for instance, has a higher percentage of 10s, its smaller population is a better stocked pond. Who gives a fuck how big a pond is. Don’t you know the PUA principle that its smarter to game women when there isn’t a crowd around? And its better to game women who are worth it in the first place.
It also isn’t even true anymore that an American in Eastern Europe is considered a “big fish”. I’ve written about a huge nationalistic opposition to foreigners that has to be dealt with via game and merging into the language and culture. The mail order bride phenomenon is long dead.
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Nicole:
“So on a large scale, a family patriarch may not be the alpha male of his nation, but he is the alpha male of his family. He may be a follower of his culture, but it is within his right as a leader of his family group to enforce their standards.”
This is my way of being “alpha”. A man only has to rule his own small group. And one woman. I don’t feel the need to have sex with lots of women to feel fulfilled. If a man chooses the right woman, she can give him everything he needs. And if he has good woman-handling skills, life can be very comfortable.
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And Manuellina Trolltega, deep down inside your feminine head, I bet even you realize that the world of warcraft as alpha comment is a red herring. There are no successful gamers. They don’t create their own self centered life. They succumb to lack of options.
If they created their own life, they’d be fucking beautiful women. They succumb to inertia and low drive and a general disinterest. Nothing in that is created or succeeded at. Because no gamer actually cares that he holds is master of his virtual universe. He knows he’s still lonely, and would prefer real life companionship and sex. He is substituting for success, not succeeding.
Success is in accord with what our body aches out for. Gamers don’t fulfill their own primary needs.
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Jerry, that comment wasn’t aimed at you. But your taking it personally — and immediately, at that — shows your hand: you obviously think of yourself as one of the small-ponders. Thanks for revealing that.
Its the illogical mantra that aging female DC lawyers use to try to shame American men into “playing in the big leagues” – which means playing with their fat asses.
“DC lawyers”
“fat asses”
Jerry, give us one insight — just one — that is not a cut-n-paste of a common motif of this board.
Quick!
Just one. That’s all I ask, man…
It also isn’t even true anymore that an American in Eastern Europe is considered a “big fish”
Example: you.
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Manuelina, although you posted as Anonymous, your icon is the same. Odds are high it was you. Same stupid trollish style, same time, same icon.
Same I.P., I’m sure.
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So yea you put yourself in situation to test the limits of your male endurance. Good shit.
Of couse like I said before a lot of the tests have become somewhat pussified. So men are not actually pushed to limits of endurance anymore just to a limit of female endurance. I lasted about 4 more hours running up and down stairs than my female counterpart who had quit. Yet I still didn’t quit. The drill seargent had to come and tell me to stop. Mua Mua hahahahahahah
Like I said I broke the female drill seargent in basic training she couldn’t break me.
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Fuck. My icon is the same as yours.
Oh well. I guess my comments were aimed at anonymous idiotic troll number 2 then.
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Jerry, you are, as far as I can tell from your self-descriptions, you are an American well into your middle age, you live somewhere in Eastern Europe, and you praise its stock of females. That’s all good.
But what do you actually do there with said stock of poon? Realistically, I’m guessing you aren’t banging lots of girls, unless you avail yourself of professionals. One, your age. Two, based on your personality that comes through in your comments, it doesn’t sound plausible.
Not that there is anything wrong with that. You seem like a likeable guy, but realistically, you either have a local girlfriend or wife, possibly an unmarried or divorced woman over a certain age, and you interact, daily and casually, with lots of attractive and classy younger women, who contrast well with American feminism-addled females. Am I right?
Thugs = thugs = thugs.
Yeah, they should be good little girlscouts instead.
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@Manuel
If you are calling it “selfish” to ignore a racist punk teenage brother who doesn’t want you to date his sister because he doesn’t like the fact that you’re American, than yeh, OK, that’s “selfish”.
@Ryder started this discussion by saying one needs to be politically correct and “honor” a racist punk’s wishes (he presumes there is honor in being fellow racists).
Its outrageous that those who agree with him think they’ve captured the “honor is a good thing” badge. I didn’t serve in the US Army to have misguided social conservatives try to tell me what honor is…especially in agreement with White Nationalists (a movement that isn’t entirely off base when stripped of its extremists).
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Xsplat, not everyone is exactly like you. There are definitely guys who, while not wanting to be celibate, would generally prefer tinkering with technology to fucking.
Or who get more fulfillment from, say, religion than from sex.
They are out there.
He knows he’s still lonely, and would prefer real life companionship and sex.
Some guys actually prefer to go Thoreau-style, although those guys are admittedly a minority.
Some guys even think that the women you posted on your blog are ugly, and wouldn’t want to fuck them. Although granted, your posting their is better than what most people here could muster. (I’d love to see pics of what Jerry is fucking.)
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Why woman in army don’t belong as drill seargents unless your gonna allow the men under their command the ability to go toe to toe with them. Equal fucking opportunity to get knocked the fuck out.
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Manuelina says “There are definitely guys who, while not wanting to be celibate, would generally prefer tinkering with technology to fucking.”
I don’t believe it.
Are you talking from personal experience? If so, what brings you here?
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You know what thinking back on it and after having dated a black woman.
The female drill seargent was black so no wonder she was always on lookout for male female relations.
I mean somehow she saw a white chick hold my hand coming back from church about 400 yards away from the building.
Now it makes more sense why she hated it.
She probably liked the white men too.
Or why else was she all up on my nuts.
he he he
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Jerry, if you “strip” movements “of extremists”, then pretty much any movement is going to seem legitimate. Even, horrors!, feminism.
Problem is, ALL movements are defined by their most extreme elements.
What’s with the at-sign in front of everybody’s name?
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Xsplat, if you’ve been posting on this board for this many YEARS and are just now noticing that hundreds of posters share your icon (the “blank email field” icon)… I just don’t know what to say.
Even more so because, apparently, you notice other people’s icons.
Either that, or I’m actually you. Maybe I’m actually you! I bet we have the same IP.
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@Manuel
I knew you were aiming the dig at Xsplat but the implied insult would apply to all expats and it showed you’d drank the feminist Kool-Aid about it being better to stay in the big USA.
Remember that a man can spend 6 monts of the year in Key West and 6 months in Moscow and get the best of both worlds.
So you’re admitting that you feel the main theme of this blog (and this post on Estonia) is lame.
I guess its your agenda to attack that?
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”””””””xsplat
And Manuellina Trolltega, deep down inside your feminine head, I bet even you realize that the world of warcraft as alpha comment is a red herring. There are no successful gamers. They don’t create their own self centered life. They succumb to lack of options.
If they created their own life, they’d be fucking beautiful women. They succumb to inertia and low drive and a general disinterest. Nothing in that is created or succeeded at. Because no gamer actually cares that he holds is master of his virtual universe. He knows he’s still lonely, and would prefer real life companionship and sex. He is substituting for success, not succeeding.
Success is in accord with what our body aches out for. Gamers don’t fulfill their own primary needs.
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But is success success and what is it?
I mean I beat games and I beat life and I beat pussy.
So really what is success.
Sure now I can say I wish I had money.
But I wanted to be in this position.
What the fuck is success?
Everything is hollow.
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Manuelina says “There are definitely guys who, while not wanting to be celibate, would generally prefer tinkering with technology to fucking.”
I don’t believe it.
I have friends who are like this, basically all the time.
I’m like this if I’m wrapped up in the task at hand. If I’m piecing together some awesome device, and/or solving some mathematical or logical puzzle, then, yeah, sometimes I’d actually be annoyed by sexual overtures. At other times I’ll get the urge to fuck anything with a skirt and a pulse.
I’d imagine that any tech billionaire who still goes to work every day is the same way. Those guys could easily tour the world, buying each country’s hottest carnal wares, for the rest of their lives. But they don’t. They go back to work on their stuff. Hint, this is not because they are defeated losers. It’s because their passions lie elsewhere.
As long as we’re teaching you new things, about other men and about wordpress, Get This: there are some guys — a lot of them, actually — who actually prefer monogamy to fucking lots of girls. Some of them are even guys who’ve fucked lots of girls.
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Sigh… Yes, Manuelina, I’ve notice that USUALLY the icon is different for differnt I.P.s, but sometimes not. As was reflected in my comment by the use of the term “chances are”.
Any other dull comments? How did you suck me into to boring and stupid land?
What is your stupid fucking point, anyway, other than trollery?
If, as you say, some guy prefer to tinker then fuck, they are not real men, in my books. They are irrelevent to anything to do with male/female relations. Just chumps who’se wives I fuck, or guys who fill up the male/female ratio with a-sexual drones thus leaving more women for me.
Nothing to do with anything on this board, where Alpha has a sexual definition.
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Manuelina, I’m done with you. Enjoy your pointless trollery.
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Xsplat, the icon has nothing to do with your IP address. It is a function of the email address that you type into the email field. If you know Gunslinger’s address, for instance, and type it into the email field, you’ll get his icon.
Don’t you have a wordpress blog yourself? You’d think you would know how this works.
At least you would, if your blog ever actually got any comments.
Manuelina, …
What is your stupid fucking point, anyway, other than trollery?
You write like a woman.
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”””””””xsplat
And Manuellina Trolltega, deep down inside your feminine head, I bet even you realize that the world of warcraft as alpha comment is a red herring. There are no successful gamers. They don’t create their own self centered life. They succumb to lack of options.
If they created their own life, they’d be fucking beautiful women. They succumb to inertia and low drive and a general disinterest. Nothing in that is created or succeeded at. Because no gamer actually cares that he holds is master of his virtual universe. He knows he’s still lonely, and would prefer real life companionship and sex. He is substituting for success, not succeeding.
Success is in accord with what our body aches out for. Gamers don’t fulfill their own primary needs.
””””””””
But is success success and what is it?
I mean I beat games and I beat life and I beat pussy.
So really what is success.
Sure now I can say I wish I had money.
But I wanted to be in this position.
What the fuck is success?
Everything is hollow.
Except for honor and respect.
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Honor and respect is hollow.
Success is contentment.
For the vast majority of men, contentment is highest when you are in love lust. Therefore love lust is the greatest success.
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So you’re admitting that you feel the main theme of this blog (and this post on Estonia) is lame.
This started as a PUA blog. PUA blogs cater, by definition, to guys who aren’t very good at getting laid. In fact, they cater to guys who are terrible at getting laid, since modern Western countries are probably the easiest environments in world history in which to get laid.
If you can’t get laid with a decently hot/cute girl in America, with its across-the-board encouragement of wanton desire and its complete lack of social sanction against casual sex, then you may as well just shoot yourself in the head, and get it over with already.
[Editor: This is a stupid, trollish comment. Female hypergamy and desire for the top 20% of alpha males is not rendered null and void by cultural conditions encouraging promiscuity. In fact, it may be just the opposite.]
I come to this blog because the comments section is hilariously entertaining, and contains a diversity of people that’s just not seen in other places. I don’t even usually read the main post (and I suspect the same is true for many, possibly even most, of the posters who populate the comment section).
And yeah, of course this post is lame; it presumes, as usual, that all men have the same ridiculously narrow tastes in women as do the hosts of the blog.
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Gunslinger, xsplat, you two may as well be arguing about whether the prettiest color is red or blue.
If you get contentment from honor, and from following a code, then that’s success.
If you get contentment from banging a bunch of women, then that’s success.
If you get contentment from inventing stuff, then that’s success.
Xsplat, for someone who claims selfishness to such a high degree, you sure have a large interest in other people’s notions of success, honor, and happiness. If you’re really such a selfish dick, why do you care one way or the other?
Every single one of your posts screams “I’m trying to compensate for something.” Every single one.
Look, we get it. You used to be a loser, and now you’re a winner. We get it. We fucking get it already.
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Honor and respect is hollow.
Success is contentment.
Lynyrd Skynyrd’s great advice to a boy is :
“The only thing I want for you my son
Is to be satisfied”
Question is, what is contentment and satisfaction?
There is something to Erikson’s theory of stages of development, whereby once you pass a series of psychological challenges from infancy to young adulthood, you start defining contentment and satisfaction as a function of your solidarity with kin, a sense of having had a meaningful life, and wisdom.
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PA, are there any negatives about Eastern Europe at all, in your book? You write as though the place is a perfect utopia, with perfect people reveling in their perfect perfection.
Since your posts on a lot of other things are pretty balanced, I’m honestly wondering what you see as the minus’s, if any, of eastern Europe.
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You write as though the place is a perfect utopia
I do? and I used the word “perfect”?
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That’s the impression sometimes. I note your posts (since they are generally insightful) and I don’t remember ever seeing you post anything critical of the region and/or its people.
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I’d say, if you are mobile and have money, I can’t think of one minus re. eastern Europe. It really is perfect. I love the long winters. I prefer the less smiley/more gruff demeanonor of people. Ethnic coherence you see all around you is extremely soul-soothing to me. I feel clean and refreshed when I return to the US from my visits there.
Their relative nationalism, religiousness, and gender traditionalism, and minimal welfare to non-nationals is not a guarantee of long-term survival viability — noting is — but it’s a better bet than western Europe’s deracinated/ godless spirit.
On the other hand, Eastern Europe can be a confining and frustrating place to live if you make little money, don’t have job prospects, are stuck dealing with the bureaucracy, aren’t trying to start a business, and can’t afford your own place. That’s why a lot of people emigrate.
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are trying to start a business
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@PA
Thanx for the good question.
I look 36 and I’m 6’2″ and I work out which offsets the real age, which is rarely revealed until someone’s in love with me, when the revelation means nothing serious to them. I’m intellectual, and adapt well to local languages and literature, which cuts both ways as both a huge advantage (with college students) and a huge disadvantage (with lower class women).
When I was 40 in the USA I dated three 22 year old 9s (all three similar in age and appearance). One was a Russian exchange student. She convinced me to move in that she was so much cooler than the Democrats and Republicans I dated otherwise.
Using “fair” game in EE (no throwing money around) and being myself I have a 29 year old 8 and a 25 year old 8 as full-time girlfriends. Both have to work out heavily to maintain their looks, which could change from week to week. The older one finally went back home after spending the summer here (it was a miracle I kept the 2 girlfriends apart).
For satellites who want to go on dates with me (about 4 satellite and/or new dates per week) without my throwing money around, things get better in the looks department and I have to check IDs as two this summer turned out to be 17, but when I think I’ve met a 10, she becomes a 9 within a week and an 8 within two months (women don’t work out here). It isn’t bad that I’m in a position to be complaining about this. I will try to link to similar looking women on the Internet to show what I consider a 9 and a 10 to be.
Roissy’s blog has really helped me navigate options.
I sometimes let the satellite relationships get into the part where we have sex, but often I throw fish back into the sea to be loyal to the main girlfriends (and because the main ones had my schedule filled most of the summer). And because promiscuity can be dangerous STD-wise. And maybe because I really should marry one of those 2 loyal tradition women.
Maybe 1 in 4 women I stop seeing were mutually not interested. Maybe.
In late July I met a true 10 on the beach and she is now emailing and texting me from her country and I’m rapidly learning her language. My cell phone had been stolen with her contact info in it…but she contacted me after three weeks of me not texting her asking “why haven’t you written to me”.
Those are the relationships that don’t involve gold-digger types that love cash (young women who are non-professionals but they may as well be).
With the latter type, it isn’t hard to find non-professional 18-21 year olds who are solid 9s and some 10s and willing to party and, after getting to know them for 3 dates, be convinced to strip etc for very little money. I do this when I know there isn’t going to be a romance. Why waste the chance to experience the body of a woman who likes me but whom I know I could never love.
Money Game is taboo on this blog however, despite it being just another screwdriver in the toolbox. Its good to be able to do well without money, but that extra 9 or 10 per three month period isn’t something to ignore or avoid because it doesn’t follow the rules of some American blog.
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Manuel says, “And yeah, of course this post is lame; it presumes, as usual, that all men have the same ridiculously narrow tastes in women as do the hosts of the blog.”
It would seem that way at the surface, but it’s just not so. Though the majority do have tastes along the lines of skinny-fair-blonde, where they deviate starkly is that the general preference here is for femininity as opposed to the mainstream media ideal, which is androgynous leaning towards masculine.
Providing for sufficient size differential, there’s a lot of room there. Some guys here have a distinct preference for specific types of Asians, and some even admit to having a thing for specific types of Black women. There’s A LOT of variety under the feminine umbrella, but the main point both the host and most guys here try to drive home is that they like women who look like women.
Even the somewhat irrational levels of hatred against the fat, boils down to a distaste for masculine looking women. There’s also valid suspicion that the surge in overweightness and obesity is directly related to feminism, even if they’re not sure exactly how it’s related.
So cool your jets. Nobody here is promoting anorexic manjawed Stepford cyborgs.
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manuel, you make a very common mistake by assuming that sexual liberalization makes getting laid like shooting fish in a barrel. what it does is allow people to chase their biological imperatives without fear of social sanction. a woman’s biological imperative is to land the man with the highest status possible, so for those men it is like shooting fish in a barrel. for the average guy with no game, especially in cities, it is often difficult to get and keep women of roughly the same value as themselves.
this blog isn’t just about getting laid. it’s about increasing your value in the sexual marketplace by understanding social dynamics. some men use that increase to seduce more women. some men use it to seduce more attractive women. and some use it to get hand in their relationship.
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I understand what PA is saying even though I’ve never been to Eastern Europe. When I go somewhere and there are all different kinds of people speaking different languages it is kind of unsettling for some reason. Occasionally we’ll take family trips to small towns in Pennsylvania where the people are similar to me and I always enjoy it. As far as prosperity goes, once you have a certain minimal standard of living other things such social cohesion and strength of community, beauty of the environment are significantly more important for your personal happiness.
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laura are you in PA also?
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Yes. About 15 minutes outside of Philly.
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And all this celebration of globalization that we hear, most people probably are more like me in what they want in life.
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It also seems like it is very hard to have any type of real status in a diverse community because different groups value different things.
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interesting. i tend to feel the exact opposite. it freaks me out a little whenever i go somewhere and everybody looks the same. in much the same way, it freaks me out to be in a room where everybody agrees with everybody else. i suppose it’s because i have a strong libertarian streak. i believe in familes and communities, but i find the idea of collective identity to be quite stiffling.
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OK.
This link shows my idea of a 10 (the daughter) and a 7.5 (the mother):
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1286392/Perfect-mother-lousy-lover-Being-devoted-children-cost-Sarah-marriage-She-wont-make-THAT-mistake-again.html
Obviously, a lot of guys here are going to say that their idea of a 10 is much different. But this is the type I go for.
[Editor: Jesus, dude, that daughter is nowhere near a 10, and the mother is a 3 at best. You may think these women are the hotness, but such preferences put you well outside the mainstream of what the vast majority of men consider attractive.]
This kind of look is available to a much older man in Eastern Europe where she’d probably be dating guys her own age in England.
The daughter is 19 or 21 in this image. Because her mom is not hard on the eyes, the daughter would be a possible keeper for a man thinking about raising children via marriage.
My main local squeeze (at 25) looks like the daughter in this image except she’s fighting a war against getting fat that this young woman may also face 5 years from now.
Basically my taste in women is for the type that can change quickly in appearance. I like full-figured women but they cannot get fat or it wrecks the attraction.
That and the cancer death of the woman I was with in my thirties, is mainly why I’m still single.
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Don’t go to Estonia thinking that the girls will be impressed that you are a “rich” American. Its a modern country with a strong economy and about to join the EU, so it’s not like people are dying to find a rich westerner to sweep them away from poverty and corruption as you might expect from an eastern european country like (allegedly) Russia etc. They were pretty underwhelmed that I was from the States, in fact it probably worked against me somewhat, though there was a curiosity about how I ended up in Estonia, which a lot of people in Holland didn’t even know anything about, much less someone from the US. (For the record my friend works for the UN in Estonia and is fluent.) The overall level of hotness of the women is off the charts, though, you will notice on the flight over and it gets better when you touch down. Tall and thin is in, there are some fat girls but they usually have kids in tow, though even the moms pushing 40 are generally very thin and well maintained. I’d say about 10 percent of women are overweight compared to maybe 60 in the US. Esto girls have a decidedly Nordic (tall blond) look to them, Russian girls have that eurasian hotness we are all familiar with. It’s pretty easy to tell them apart and the guys they are with are a dead giveaway – Russian dudes stand out for the mil-spec haircuts and stocky, muscular build. Its pretty hard to find a girl below 6 during the drinking hours, and there are 8s and above everywhere.
It’s not particularly cheap, either, with drinks at the bar being maybe twenty percent cheaper (tequila is incredibly expensive). Bottle drink tends to be about half price as long as its European produced – again tequila and rum is retarded expensive, vodka and scotch nice and cheap. Smokes are dirt cheap, and taxi rides are quite reasonable. Dining out is about on a par with big city US, though tips are a much lower percentage of the bill, like 5% if you are happy with service. The food is excellent, especially outside of Tallinn old city, where – no joke – the italian food is superb seemingly wherever you find it. Hotel and car rental is about par with the US major cities minus NY etc. All hotels have an excellent complimentary breakfast, way above standard US fare so that helps budget wise.
This is all Tallinn btw, in the countryside the girls are obviously less hot.
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i believe in familes and communities,
Families and communities are impossible where there is ethnic diversity. “Collective identity” does not mean everybody looks and thinks alike. At a firemen’s bullroast in a small town western Pennsylvania you’ll see people of all kinds of temperaments and social classes, but their having the same ethnicity and culture in common ensures that the event will be fun and relaxing, not tense and on-guard.
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even if it is more difficult, i’m not sure how it is impossible. i feel neither tense nor on-guard around different ethnic groups. in fact, i don’t really care about ethnicity. i take people as individuals and judge them by their behavior.
i’m not some poltically correct, psuedo-intellectual progressive, so i feel no need to cast aspersions on those who prefer small homogeneous communities, but it just isn’t my preference. i grew up in a big city and that is the environment that i prefer.
different strokes for different folks.
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jr,
I understand and there have always been more adventurous people like you. This is kind of a dumb example, but I had lunch with some people over the weekend and one man’s girlfriend (who is from Ireland) is reading the book Lonesome Dove. We all started talking about how much we loved the character Gus McCrae. I just don’t know if I was with a group of people of a different race and culture if they would have felt the same way, maybe, but likely not. It was just funny that we all thought the same way, although we definitely don’t agree on everything all the time.
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Jerry, get her on a natural diet post haste. It might mean that she’ll gain a few pounds if she’s maintaining her current weight by strict calorie restriction, but it’ll just be a few pounds, and it won’t be a struggle.
She can eat natural the rest of her life, never get fat, and not feel like she’s missing a thing. Instead of calorie restriction, she’ll be instinctively calorie conscious, or more like calorie subconscious, because the body regulates its intake, much the same as an outdoor cat.
It’s still anecdotal, but she’ll probably hit the wall later, keep pristine skin into her 50’s, and not get the potato torso many older women have these days.
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forearm hair – +2 points
being a real woman – x2 points
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”””””’I was appalled that at the end of the story she stated that her husband was lagging on staying in the marital home rent free while she was paying the bills. She didnt pay one penny of “rent” the previous 18+ years while he was supporting her. This woman has a very self absorbed thought process. Leaving teenage girls at home with a fridge full of food and someone around the corner doesnt cut it. She’s not being a good parent if those children are not at least somewhat supervised. Yes, they can take care of themselves, but they can also throw a beer bash, have their boyfriends spending the night, or who only knows what ever else they can imagine. What if criminals caught wind that there were two teenage girls alone at this home every weekend? I don’t agree with this womans views at all.
– Erin, USA, 15/6/2010 22:37
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1286392/Perfect-mother-lousy-lover-Being-devoted-children-cost-Sarah-marriage-She-wont-make-THAT-mistake-again.html#ixzz0yI4xSgSV
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lol yea bitches have no honor.
Looks like the daughter lost the fight vs weight gain.
Yea I like the body type but yea scary how fast it changes.
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Aww jerry, those chicks are not that good looking. She is for sure not a ten. And it looks like she will become obese soon.
Just because you think they’re good looking doesn’t make them aesthetically perfect (what a “10” is). I’m better looking than those two broads and I’m a 7 at best. Sorry dude.
However, the fact that you’re with 6s and 7s who are much younger than you and seem to really enjoy your company is something you should be happy about.
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I think that mother and daughter are both pretty average looking British women. They are attractive, but nothing special. It does explain why Jerry is always seeing perfect 10s on the street.
As you get older, though, younger people do tend to look better and better relatively.
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see bra, i was correct – just like obsid, you also know Aikaido and stuff.
you are part of The Club. The Alliance.
I nominate your words as the signature post in all this salon-like discussion of nigs n’ jigs.
Your posts stand out as the Ed Hardy shirt over the set of full sleeve tribal tats.
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”””””’on September 1, 2010 at 10:06 am cornershop
Don’t go to Estonia thinking that the girls will be impressed that you are a “rich” American. Its a modern country with a strong economy and about to join the EU, so it’s not like people are dying to find a rich westerner to sweep them away from poverty and corruption as you might expect from an eastern european country like (allegedly) Russia etc.
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Lets keep it real every woman is basically impressed by a rich dude period.
Now throw in why you came to estonia to get back to your white roots and should be good. I think I am gonna take somalia off list to make sure I have some time for estonia. he he he
What I am thinking is that there is honor in having money. lol
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The daughter is not a 6 dream.
Really I don’t know why you couldn’t find woman at that size in us.
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Jesus, Laura is as dumb as Obsidian.
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Gunslinger-
She’s not a six? So you think she’s lower? Or higher? I would say lower. But I don’t think portly chicks are hot.
There are tons of women of that size in USA. We specialize in young and chubby.
I see lots of girls like that when I cross the bridge to the third world nonsense that is Miami.
In Miami Beach that chick would be a tourist. Everyone here is thin.
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Hmm, just saw the pic again. Daughter does have a beautiful face. I’d go with 8 if you ❤ fat chicks.
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“It does explain why Jerry is always seeing perfect 10s on the street.”
+1
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The body looks like my first wife after she got fat.
People are obviously diferent.
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those broads have bigger pipes than me!
(not really though – no one messes with the Hammer and the Cannon… 26″ pythons, brother)
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Manuel–
Yep, those Eastern Europeans. So much more civilized than blacks and Mexicans, they are.
Those extra IQ points have really helped them build an amazingly prosperous country, no?
Actually a lot of Northeastern Europe has done damn well in the short time since the end of Soviet Communist dictatorship there. Dumb wad.
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Jerry–
It’s truly absurd to call the daughter in the pic link you posted above a 10. I’d call her a 6.5. Anything above a 7 is absurd.
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”””””'(not really though – no one messes with the Hammer and the Cannon… 26″ pythons, brother)”””””
You saying you got bigger bicepts than arnold he he he
””””’Greg Valentino – World’s Biggest Biceps – eBicep.com
Greg Valentino – World’s Biggest Biceps! Greg Valentino has huge 28 inch arms and they’re still growing! Greg Valentino’s biceps are massive!
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Hey you might get to beat world record.
http://www.google.com/images?expIds=25651,25657,25774,25900,25907,26266&sugexp=ldymls&pq=what+the+us+built+in+the+last+ten+years&q=biggest+biceps+in+world&cp=20&hl=en&rls=com.microsoft:en-us&wrapid=tljp1283374241364428&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=tb9-TIq7HdK6cdbbkYYL&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=4&sqi=2&ved=0CC0QsAQwAw&biw=1003&bih=595
Insane.
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Laura Laura
It also seems like it is very hard to have any type of real status in a diverse community because different groups value different things.
Women in China, Japan,France, Italy, and American all value a 3,400 classic Chanel handbag.
Really Laura is status all that important? So what if you value stainless steel appliances and I value Givenchy handbags. Are either of those things really important in the grand scheme of things?
PA I prefer the less smiley/more gruff demeanonor of people.
Yes American are smiley happy people even when they’re crying on the inside. Why is it that you like more gruff “demeanored” people?
You have more in common with the blk thugs than you would like to admit to. I wonder why E.E’s excel at the same sports that African-Americans do.
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PA Their countries are prosperous enough (despite communism) and not bloated third world vacuums like the West.
that’ s because they imagrate to other parts of the world. England and France doens’t feel so open to your type PA We have some in NYC, very violet just like NAMS.
http://gothamist.com/2009/04/08/women_savagely_beaten_after_rejecte.php
i don’t play with these ^^^dudes. when they speak I return their words and keep it moving quick quick. they do this sort of thing often.
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I just love love love louis vuitton handbags and if my wife doesn’t supply me with one I’ll divorce her and take all her assets.
and then I’ll go watch the movie Eat Pray Love.
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@Chic Noir,
It’s one of the reasons I think the white nationalists are dreaming in technicolor.
In France, one of the most problematic ethnic minorities are the entire crop of Balkan ne’er-do-wells.
Albanians (who are, despite what anyone says, absolutely white as white gets) are among the worst, the most violent, among the most prone to random acts of revenge and bravado, usually involving death.
The Serbs are masters of organized theft, killing, and severe beatings; the other Balkan communities are rife with serious levels of organized and semi-organized and random crime.
Culture makes a difference.
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see gorb
this is why i tend to doubt your american bona fides
US WNs arent universalists. when they say “white” they mean US founding stock whites–aka, anglo, german, dutch. they dont even always include irish and polish as white and they sure as hell don’t think my practically see-through pale jew ass is white no matter how white i look or feel
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””””””Gorbachev
@Chic Noir,
It’s one of the reasons I think the white nationalists are dreaming in technicolor.
In France, one of the most problematic ethnic minorities are the entire crop of Balkan ne’er-do-wells.
Albanians (who are, despite what anyone says, absolutely white as white gets) are among the worst, the most violent, among the most prone to random acts of revenge and bravado, usually involving death.
The Serbs are masters of organized theft, killing, and severe beatings; the other Balkan communities are rife with serious levels of organized and semi-organized and random crime.
Culture makes a difference.
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Your getting pretty full of shit right now. The bosnian type white dudes are good workers. Why they could get rid of american type white dudes in iraq. Plus they watch each others backs and promote each other. They also can create. Only thing a black dude created was an extra job for the black man.
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Gorb,
Sometimes people tolerate bad behavior from their own people that they won’t from others.
I’m not saying my background or culture is the best, but I like it the best. That’s all. Some of the stuff PA and CR and a few others have said really has me thinking. In all this celebration of diversity no one ever stopped to ask people if they really liked it. Most people seem to be happier living a simple life which often entails less diversity.
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@Dana,
see gorb
this is why i tend to doubt your american bona fides
US WNs arent universalists. when they say “white” they mean US founding stock whites–aka, anglo, german, dutch. they dont even always include irish and polish as white and they sure as hell don’t think my practically see-through pale jew ass is white no matter how white i look or feel
Thank you, Dana.
This is the point I try to make. “White”, even to white nationalists, doesn’t mean anything. They opportunistically shift the meaning around.
[Editor: White is colloquial for the Caucasian race. There are ethnicities within that race, just as there are within the Asian and African races. But the average Eastern European will be more genetically and culturally compatible with the founding Anglo-Germanic stock of America than will the average Mexican. Think of the world’s races and ethnicities as a giant Venn diagram. The more overlap in Venn circles, the stronger the nation. The less overlap in Venn circles, the more likely the nation will implode under the ancient human directive to organize into in-groups and out-groups.]
At one time, “white” didn’t include Catholics – any Catholics. My family would have been out, despite our pale skins and Anglo-Scots ancient ancestry. – My family name can be traced back to Pictish inscriptions and the Romans recorded battles with people who carried it. My family has the oldest New England roots, including lots of Injun Fighters; they’ve been here as long as some Zulus have been in South Africa.
Various ancestors fought in King Phillip’s War. Other branches burned Limey ships in the revolution. We know fo two young men who were mowed down in the Civil War, as my mother insists on telling me.
Every male member of my family has owned guns, we’ve always voted, joined the military, and at least one remembered family member has seen action in every war this country has ever fought, including the Spanish-American war. My family is as old-school Anglo-Celtic-American as it comes. By any definition, it defines “American” in a way someone named Podzowski or Schmidt or Heinzman can’t touch, if you want to get all chest-puffing. I’m amazed my parents don’t have American flags tattoed on their asses and the inside of their eyelids.
Most recently, my brother has shed blood (mostly “Arab Freedom Fighter”) for his country, and he did it unapologetically and without hesitation.
And yet – being Catholic, I recall my father pointing out that the local clubs once *excluded* his father from being a member; that the whole Protestant-Catholic divide in my town was a Berlin Wall when he was growing up; and that White Nationalists didn’t consider him White, by almost any measure. They would have beaten the living shit out of him for the crime of Walking in Public While Catholic. There was always a gang of 3-5 of them when he was growing up. He never fails to relate the story of how he finally kneed one of them in the groin and sent him home to his mother whining.
He remembered when Kennedy was elected, “Our president”, and how bitter and recriminatory the “White Nationalists” (same folk, different time and name) were. My father was a devotee of the IRA, and thought they were heroes. He thought the Brits lost out by not joining the Revolution.
I’ve just seen something of the world. For as many blacks that live in their own cracked world, there’s as many who adapted and get along fine – quietly. They’re not going to Africa, Obsidian and his retardedness notwithstanding.
We need to live with everyone. I’m all for shutting up the borders – but the ones with passports now, we’re going to have to keep.
White nationalists often (when inconvenient) don’t include southern Europeans (swarthy Greeks!). Spanish are as white as it comes; but because of the Hispanic Latin Americans and the dynamic we have with them, the Spanish are “less European” than, say, Germans. WN’s don’t run off measures of cultural competence or history (Russians are as good as, say, the Dutch, unless they’re not all of a sudden – selective inclusion depending on the audience or material under discussion).
They follow bad news about blacks and non-whites, but conveniently omit bad news about white ethnic minorities, say, like Albanians and Romanians in France, who are visually indistinguishable from French or Germans, or the Azoreans in Portugal, renowned in that country for being lazy, stupid and prone to poorly-executed petty crime, but are absolutely as white as they come.
These ethnics are white-European when they want them to be, and conveniently non-European (in the American History sense) when identifying with them isn’t convenient any more.
That is, when they even think about these things. Usually, they’re so poorly clued in that they forget that non-*Northern* European Europeans actually exist. WN’s exist solely in an old-stock White American world, but breach their boundaries to score points. Which is why even their concept of “whiteness” is as retarded as everything else they spew. Get a bunch of them together, and they rarely agree.
“I know it when I see it.” Except when it’s not convenient.
They’re the same as the religious – it’s not based on anything resembling genetics or biology or experience, just “feelings” and “impressions”, and what’s convenient for making whatever point has to be made right now.
Wait five seconds and it shifts again.
Creationists are the same – their self-contradictory definitions and assumptions don’t bother them because they accept their assumptions a priori. Ask a creationist to define what a “Type” is, a “basic Type” of lifeform that can change within the group but won’t change into another group (i.e., “Lizards” and “Fish” are “Types”). As soon as you point out the fluidity and flexibility of life, or show an intermediate stage, or find a new fossil, they shift again. It’s because their argument isn’t based on facts. They believe something, and if information doesn’t suit them, they ignore it.
ie – there *are* successful blacks. Many of them are nearly fully integrated. I know some. Same with Jews. There are patterns and trends, but just 3 generations ago, Catholics and Protestants in New England barely spoke to each other. They considered each other”aliens” before they were both secularized. You still hear talk of the evils of Popery and the poisonous presence of Catholics from lots of Born-Again Christians. People said there was *no chance* of integrating Catholics or Protestants into the “mainstream”. They were wrong.
WN’s aren’t open to self-evaluation. Their actual arguments and rationalizations don’t mean anything. If you counter one, they just ignore you and come up with another one, which contradicts the first. It’s like arguing with True Believers, whether religious freaks, Feminists or Communists or Islamists: Arguments for them are nothing but rhetorical devices. They believe what they believe because they believe it. When actually confronted with, say, extremely dangerous white minorities, even *of different cultures*, they’re always very quiet. They’ll make some excuse, like, well, they’re not “really” white, or, wait, you’re missing the point, or etc.
It’s all emotion. No logic.
Oh, and Jews don’t count. What if you’re 1/8th Jewish? Acceptable or not? 1/4? What about a non-Jew who likes Jews? What about a non-Jew who just doesn’t reflexively hate Jews? What about a non-Jew married to a Jew? A right-wing Jew? Left-handed leftie Jew? A Jew who’s virtuously patriotic? A Jew who hates Israel and is profoundly racist and hates black people? A Jew who’s hasidic and believes in self-segregation, but likes other white people? What about secular Jews who haven’t self-identified as Jews in three generations? What about a person whose grandmother was a Jewish orphan raised as a Presbyterian after WWII?
The rule often is: If you agree with me, you’re not a Jew. Good girl.
If you disagree with me? DIRTY LITTLE JEW! CONSPIRACY! NWO BLACK HELICOPTERS SECRET CABALS!
What about the vast number of mixed-Jewish couples right now? What will their kids be? Their grandkids? Miscegenation with Jews is going on wholesale on a scale unheard of in written Jewish history, since the Babylonian exile. Rabbis are calling it the End of the American Jews, a kind-of voluntary holocaust. Jewish dating agencies are fighting back, but losing badly.
What will WN’s do about the children (if any, because let’s be real, the Jews are breeding less than anyone else) of these unions?
What of White People then?
White Hispanic people – who don’t decide to acculturate, but are as bleached as a drunken Irishman?
They paste labels but keep a crate of liquid paper beside the desk.
I’ve never had a straight answer about all the wide fuzzy areas from WN’s. I don’t think there’s any agreement in WN groups about this. If they can’t even consistently define who “their” people are, it’s hard to take them seriously.
The precise people they should be marketing their ideas to are the ones who most consistently and aggressively reject them. That’s another mystery for them to ponder.
I’ve never, ever gotten a straight answer from a WN about exactly what their “tribe” is supposed to be.
Get a group of White Nationalists together and let them engage on who their actual tribe is. Then try to hold them to this definition over time. It’s like trying to grasp whisps of smoke with your bare hands.
Their beliefs are to genetics what witch doctory is to medicine. Might be something in it – but finding it means you have to wade through a lot of poorly-defined facile observations and assumptions – shit, in other words.
Like all revolutionary groups with poorly-defined and reasoned goals, they spend most of their time attacking other conservatives, who they see as betraying them. They don’t realize that their movements lack anything even approaching a viable plan, a viable concept, a pragmatic vision or even a consistent ideology or worldview. And they get most angry at conservatives who disagree with them.
They devolve into the most driving and bitter invective – like Nation of Islam does when it has to confront black Baptists. Like ghetto trash does when it sees successful Blacks and labels them Uncle Toms. It galls them that the very people, all around, them, their neighbors and their supposed “people”, their natural allies – reject their views. It’s Hamas going after the National Front for the Liberation of Palestine and then being attacked in turn by the PLO.
All “revolutionaries” like this make the ones who should be their allies their primary targets. The inevitable result will be self-annihilation
A pure-white Colorado Republic would end up in some vicious internal conflict, would start persecuting its own citizens, then start suspecting all the neighbors, and then there’s be a border skirmish and then a war, and then after the war a Purge and then a Counter-Purge – it’s so predictable that you just know the graveyards are going to be filled with countless dead white people.
Peruse their websites. Try to follow their internal debates. Any revolution led by these people will consume itself in its own internal contradictions more or less immediately.
Most “whites” read their shit and say, yeah, black crime sucks. Then they say – Oh, but I know a Jew, he’s not so bad. So maybe not all Jews are bad. And then the guy goes on with his life and forgets about the WN’s and their invective.
And for this, the WN’s hate them even more than they hate black people.
I’d just love for a WN group for once to consistently stand behind clear definitions based on something solid, come up with a clearly articulated, do-able plan, something they could sell to a solid majority of people, and something with a clear how-to-get-there-from-here-without-throwing-the-baby-out-with-the-bathwater strategy. It’s been 150 years, and nothing yet.
I mean, at least the Jews admit one thing – as a group, they can’t even agree on what constitutes a Jew.
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@Laura,
I agree. I like it nice and simple, too.
Like I said, I’m not about to go advocating for Ghetto Life any time soon, and I’m careful about how I behave, and I hate having to be politically correct in IRL, and I think that if we don’t acculturate these minorities, we’re fucked.
So I think you and I are likely on the same page, based on what I’ve read.
But I’m not stupid enough to believe that these WN’s can pull off anything they suggest without utterly destroying everything “their” culture has created or maintained, and without damaging its potential.
I maintain that the best way forward is to plow through this left-wing shit and – shock and horrors – do the best with what we have.
We’ve never really tried, and where we did, we fucked it up royally. We might try actually trying, is all I’m saying. It’ll cost a lot less.
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First.
lol. I just wanted see what it feels like to post on a thread with 1k comments. My compliments to the website.
I too was taken with these munchkins doing what? Their national anthem?
If this was their anthem then I think these blond commies have it over the exploitive presentations of our own national anthem, the Star Spangled Banner.
What the frisky Esto babes and their gray haired Beatle dad featured was a sincere staged gathering of a proud people doing a call-and-response themed tome to community that doesn’t even need a translation.
These Estoniacs probably watch our Super Bowl, as people do all over the world. The most embarrassing part of that event is our anthem.
The Banner is an old Irish drinking song. But we perverted it by having it rendered by whatever trashy celebrity skank shows up to solo it. When it gets to the end of the tune, we know the train wreck is coming: ‘ore the laaaaaand of the freeeeeeeeeee. Shit. Where’s the fucking head.
out
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dana when they say “white” they mean US founding stock whites–aka, anglo, german, dutch. they dont even always include irish and polish as white
*chic noir presses send of her cell phone*
PA receives video
PA promptly passes out.
LOL TIM, I bet you like the bag with all the logos on it.
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laura In all this celebration of diversity no one ever stopped to ask people if they really liked it.
I’m not sure most people tolerate diversity in this country in it’s truest since. They just tolerate it and that’s fine for me.
but on a smaller scale you celebrate diversity every time you eat Chinese food.
[Editor: Or you celebrate cheap takeout that’s within walking distance.]
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Jerry: “Ryder started this discussion by saying one needs to be politically correct and “honor” a racist punk’s wishes (he presumes there is honor in being fellow racists).”
Huh? Put the doobage away for a minute, man. You initiated the conversation by stating that if someone opposed your dating their sister on racial grounds, you wouldn’t be fwends with him anymore. Apparently, your precious lil feelings would be hurt. I don’t know how much more politically correct you can be than that.
You then went on to say that you would continue pretending to be his friend, while trying to bag the sister. In other words, be a sneaky little shit. Apparently, that’s alpha too. lol Frankly, and I’m not cheap shotting here, that outlook sounds more like garden variety female cattiness. Trying to dress that pig up in an alpha blanket ain’t gonna cut it.
You then acknowledged that, while in Turkey, you weren’t “allowed” to date hotties, but you could date some of the less attractive women – yet apparently that’s alpha. I simply pointed out that those same Turkish guys, if in Europe, would walk right past you and hit on a white chick in front of you. They wouldn’t let you do the same in their country. They don’t fear you, you fear them. They can touch your women, you can’t touch theirs. Who’s alpha, again?
It’s like you gulped down some “Wannabe Alpha Kool-Aid,” and have become fixated on the concept. Believe it or not, there are issues in this world that really don’t have all that much to do with whether someone is alpha or beta. Alphas can give respect, so can betas. It’s not one or the other. Alphas can have a code of honor, so can betas. Yet you equate any act of decency or restraint with beta. It’s juvenile, and tells me not only that you aren’t alpha yourself, but that you haven’t hung out with many. If you had, you’d know better.
Similarly, both alphas and betas can by lying, sneaky little shits. But in my experience, alphas are far less likely to be this way. They usually don’t need to be, and see it as a sign of weakness. When my crew hits the bars, there is a definite guy code. There is a respect there, and the whole crew would fall apart of we undercut one another. All these guys are very good with women, and a couple are phenomenal, real naturals.
Some of the most alpha that I’ve know are also some of the most trustworthy, the kind of cats that could have taken advantage of a situation, but didn’t. Why lose a friend, when the pussy flows so freely in the Kwa? That’s what bros before hos means, not justifying the behavior of a cockroach.
A number of times, with the alcohol flowing, I’ve fucked up. We all have. I cut in on a buddy and took a girl that I knew he was really into. She meant something to him, but pretty much nothing to me other than a conquest.
Frankly, I always felt beta after something like that. I could easily justifiy it of course, because in a sense the girl just wasn’t that into him, and nothing was likely to come of it. Hey, I’m doing him a favor! And while true on one level, it’s mostly bullshit on another. When I’m in true alpha mode, I find that I am more generous, more magnanimous. Plenty of girls out there, not nearly as many good friends.
A desperate, tepid little beta, on the other hand, can’t understand this. He has to take his opportunities as he finds them, because for him, opportunities are rare indeed.
In my experience, most alphas take pride in a strong guy code, a sort of honor amongst cads. Part of that is being able to exercise restraint in some situations, and being able to grasp the concept of respect. Leave the cattiness to the chicks, where it belongs.
We all develop a worldview over time, whether it be sound or not. But trying to squeeze every damn interaction into Alpha/Beta just doesn’t cut it. More to life, brah.
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when they say “white” they mean US founding stock whites–aka, anglo, german, dutch. they dont even always include irish and polish as white
While Germans, Slavs and Scandis — even unusual nations like Basques — have been settling the frontier well early on in the 19th century, the late-century surge of eastern and souther European immigration to densely populated eastern cities was disruptive and nasty. They were illiterate, often dirty, smelly and alcoholic, and gang warfare and corrupt urban politics were an alien and disruptive and most unwelcome new development they brought with them. There was also typhus and other diseases associated with poor and densely settling euro immigrants. Catholicism was wierd to Americans. So all in all, no shit Poles and Italians were an unwelcome inflow.
However, in one or two generations, we’ve become indistingiushable from the native stock because, most importantly, we look similar enough. Secondarily, by shared Euro-Christian culture, we are similar enough in civilizational attitudes, and genetically by temperament and intelligence.
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PA we are similar enough in civilizational attitudes, and genetically by temperament and intelligence.
No sir, this is where you differ greatly from the native stock. What’s it you to get in a fist fight in Poland? In this country, we have men under 40 who’ve never been in a fist fight and the idea of being in one terrifies them to no end.
we look similar enough.
I glad you put it this way because some of us can tell you apart but like you said, close enough.
They were illiterate, often dirty, smelly
*chic noir sniffs PA*
Hey somthing smells like sulfer and the cheese aisle in whole foods.
just kidding PA 🙂
and gang warfare
there is still some of this going on my friend. Even the NYPD know this and will admit it to you if you have a friend/relative among them.
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Manuel:
“I’d imagine that any tech billionaire who still goes to work every day is the same way. Those guys could easily tour the world, buying each country’s hottest carnal wares, for the rest of their lives. But they don’t. They go back to work on their stuff. Hint, this is not because they are defeated losers. It’s because their passions lie elsewhere.
As long as we’re teaching you new things, about other men and about wordpress, Get This: there are some guys — a lot of them, actually — who actually prefer monogamy to fucking lots of girls. Some of them are even guys who’ve fucked lots of girls.”
Absolutely. If I were a really rich and successful tech bloke, I would have one really good quality female in a “helpmate” role and no more. I would rather have one quality relationship and pursue work success than try to bed a lot of women. That is sort of what I have actually done. Go for quality over quantity with females. For me, “game” is about getting what I want from my wife. And keeping her happy, or as happy as a woman can be.
I do not feel I have missed out. There is no sex act that I have wanted to experience, that I have missed out on. Women only come in one basic model. It is easier to turn a housewife into your personal tart than to turn a tart into a housewife.
When I want “pussy”, I get it. When I want a good meal, I get it. Same woman.
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[Editor: Or you celebrate cheap takeout that’s within walking distance.]
🙂
Yes, but there are American restaurants in walking distance right?
[Editor: The lines of… ahem… local color make a trip to Burger King an exercise in torture.]
Food is that little piece of diversity that most people are somewhat open to trying.
[And the best thing about food diversity is that native Americans can learn the recipes without having to import the foreign chefs!]
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chic,
Men of native stock were never historically wimpy, this seems to be a recent development. Obsidian commented that he would respond to a minor road rage incident by shooting the person. This may be one of the reason white men might back down.
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white men are afraid of going to jails packed with black criminals
thats what really put the kibosh on white males standing up for ANYTHING
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Laura,
Men of native stock were never historically wimpy, this seems to be a recent development
Yea I know, that why I wrote men under 40.
I’m not 100% against a bit of wimpyness either. In some ways this makes it safer for everyone but esp women that most men are a bit wimpy. If we lived in a society where every other word out of men’s mouths were about honour, it would be like walking on egg shells.
Obsidian commented that he would respond to a minor road rage incident by shooting the person
OBS isn’t an Eastern European.
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I think you’re right about that. Jail wouldn’t be that bad for white men if it wasn’t for all the black men there.
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We should just segregate prisons. It makes sense. I wouldn’t want to be locked up with people I couldn’t stand.
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Food is that little piece of diversity that most people are somewhat open to trying.
I can think of another piece of diversity that I am open to trying…Chic.
[Editor: I hope your tongue is limbered up.]
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I hope your tongue is limbered up
tim works in the fishing industry, he’s man enough.
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“I have yet to meet a regular jewish person IRL who wasn’t for open borders. Oh wait, I think I know one. One. Out of probably hundreds whose acquaintance I’ve known. Contra Gorb and Whiskey, Jews are very left wing, support left wing causes to the hilt, and generally hold a superiority complex vis a vis Gentiles.
It is what it is. Denying it only makes one look mendacious.”
Add at least three more to Gorby’s list regarding the open borders issue. I used to be in favor of it, and not any more. Add my cousin and uncle, both of whom regularly send out anti-immigration email blasts. And there are plenty of Jews who aren’t left wing, including myself.
There is a large group with a superiority complex with respect to intellect. I used to have it. Fact of the matter is, I’m virtually retarded before noon. Jews actually tend to hold inferiority complexes with respect several things, including athletic endeavors, cocksmanship, fighting ability (at least American Jews, not Israelis), and being able to do skilled manual labor.
[Editor: Understood. I don’t want to go out on a limb too far here, but finger to the wind I have noticed a slight rightward shift in the political attitudes of Jews I know. Whether this is a temporary glitch brought on by circumstance and Obama exhaustion or a permanent realignment I can’t say.
Btw.. cocksmanship? Milton Berle and Ron Jeremy would disagree.]
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PA, I’d go even further than that. The Poles are one of the “whitest” of European peoples, with perhaps the highest rate of fair features. I believe there was a study of this done back when eugenics was in vogue, but I can’t recall who did it. Certainly some of the most Nordic looking people that I’ve seen have been of Polish derivation. As you say, there were other tensions at work, mostly of a religious or economic nature. The idea that white nationalists don’t consider Poles white is ludicrous. If a single exception can be found, which I rather doubt, I guarantee it is either a kook or some sort of disruptor.
[Editor: Poles are very fair skinned, but are they lighter than the Irish? Some Irish lasses are practically translucent.]
What’s interesting to me is how the divide and conquer strategy against whites works. Whites are shamelessly discriminated against as whites – neither Poles nor Irish (or any other white group) are exempted. White countries and only white countries are targeted for race replacement, as the Irish have recently learned, and as the Poles will learn if the powers that be have their way.
So, when it’s time to attack whites, we’re all one big happy family. White is white, no muss and no fuss. But should we defend ourselves against this assault, the very same people who lumped us together when it was time to extract their pound of flesh, suddenly claim that it is ludicrous for us to resist. After all, look at how different whites are! Remember your squabbles of the past, even though they are now irrelevant! What could you possibly have in common with one another? Unless we are attacking you, that is. Then you have plenty in common. It is to laugh.
[Good point. Poles aren’t Anglos until it’s time to redistribute their wealth and fling open their borders.]
We live in a very strange world where we can be indicted and charged as whites, but can’t defend ourselves as such. When indicted, they know exactly who we are. But when we resist, it’s “What are you talking about? What does white mean anyway? It’s just a social construct! Think of all your differences!”
I’m not sure that even the Stalin show trials reached quite this level of Orwellian double think.
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@DirkJohanson
Add at least three more to Gorby’s list regarding the open borders issue. I used to be in favor of it, and not any more. Add my cousin and uncle, both of whom regularly send out anti-immigration email blasts. And there are plenty of Jews who aren’t left wing, including myself.
You should let yourselves be known to the Roissys and the white nationalists of the country.
There is a large group with a superiority complex with respect to intellect. I used to have it. Fact of the matter is, I’m virtually retarded before noon. Jews actually tend to hold inferiority complexes with respect several things, including athletic endeavors, cocksmanship, fighting ability (at least American Jews, not Israelis), and being able to do skilled manual labor.
Except for Israelis. They do all of this. Also no problem with cocksmanship and fighting. Though their fighting tends to be more … final.
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Dirk,
Good comment. I like your honesty.
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[Editor: Poles are very fair skinned, but are they lighter than the Irish? Some Irish lasses are practically translucent.]
Too close for me to call. That’s what is so odd about trying to single out the Irish and Poles. It would be difficult to “out white” either of them.
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I don’t fish, Chic. not since 1999.
btw, what do you know about dean moriarty?
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”””””Ryder,
We live in a very strange world where we can be indicted and charged as whites, but can’t defend ourselves as such. When indicted, they know exactly who we are. But when we resist, it’s “What are you talking about? What does white mean anyway? It’s just a social construct! Think of all your differences!”
I’m not sure that even the Stalin show trials reached quite this level of Orwellian double think.
””””’
Strange times in deed your posts are like to ludicrus levels.
It does make ya wonder who is pulling string because if it is a white person then how the fuck do they think they are gonna make out with all the other people on the planet if the west turns into a giant pussy.
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Which kind of leads me to believe that it isn’t a white person. Do you realize how much power you could have with money and billions of dollars. I mean if you were willing to hire people to kill. How many congressman and senators are there. Give them and their families offers they can’t refuse plus money for the incentivized side. We act like everyone in the world play by rules. I am pretty sure there are people who don’t.
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Tim btw, what do you know about dean moriarty
I’m familar with Mr. Moriarty via On The Road.
Moriatry is gunslinger’s doppelganger. gunslinger writes the way moriarty spoke. Moriarty was prone to becoming very sweaty at times. if you saw the blog header for gunslinger, he looked rather sweaty in the pick. Dean loved to travel, gunslinger likes to travel. Dean had women all over the place, according to gunslinger, he does to to.
the dharma bums
RooshV is = Japhy Ryder. Recall japhy getting the random spiritual hipster girl to sleep with japhy and his friend at the same time. He gamed her via Eastern religion telling her how spiritual it was and how she was like _____ ancient goddess.
Tim I don’t fish, Chic. not since 1999.
that was just a joke tim.
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if larry auster could get laid, he’d sound a lot like gorbachev
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Please. What “Obama exhaustion?” Jews are writing articles like this about him. They re-iterated the same sentiments when Jon Voigt wrote that open letter to President Obama about his “antisemitism” because he wasn’t rabidly pro-settlement enough.
The only evidence we have of a “right-ward shift” in Jewish sentiments are Gorby’s dubious anecdotes and Dirk’s above.
The reality is that most of the open borders pundits like Joel Kotkin and pretty much every neoconservative pundit are Jewish.
Jews believe they do better in multi-ethnic empires (until they don’t)
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Gorby, though a theist (not an atheist!), I am not sure I’d qualify as a creationist, at least not as you conceptualize it. Though, I suppose I am.
As for the boundaries for species transitioning, I can be very definite. Single cell organisms are phenotypically constrained by 16S rRNA, multicellular organisms by 18S rRNA. These markers are deemed “highly conserved”, but in reality, they are in fact immutable once the variable regions governed by the basic scaffold are set.
An organism cannot transition this boundary. In fact, you can use these markers as a definite arbiters where a specimen belongs on a phylogenetic tree.
Let me put it another way… If you model all the possible combinations within these two markers, it would give you all the possible phyla. There can’t be any other.
A friend of mine, in the 90’s, used this principle to nail down a new species of airborne biota. He couldn’t reveal the reverse methodology (he’d be blocked by peer review for his heresy), so in his paper he had a screen story of a chance discovery.
The only way you could introduce new phyla would be if you designed a new marker that would expand the variability, say by increasing the stuctural components to 22–or whatever configuration can function in their topology (folding in 3-d space) with other segments the way 16/18S rRNA does, provided that it is feasible.
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@Cannon’s Canon
if larry auster could get laid, he’d sound a lot like gorbachev
Kinda yeah.
That’s not so bad, except that I’m a hard-core atheist, and I’m a “racial realist” as opposed to a racist. There’s a difference, lefty criticism notwithstanding.
Auster got the right tone with his book about the end of America as we know it unless we shut the borders to wide- open illegal immigration. I forget the name. It was a little extreme, but extreme wakes people up sometimes.
And he goes after Spencer, too, which is a mistake. Spencer should be given an award for what he tirelessly, boringly does every day. he’s bang on about Islam and Islamists, and Auster should be praising the guy.
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@Morsellaux
Gorby, though a theist (not an atheist!), I am not sure I’d qualify as a creationist, at least not as you conceptualize it. Though, I suppose I am.
If you challenge the basic concepts of the obvious facts of evolution, I’d peg you for a creationist.
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The only way you could introduce new phyla would be if you designed a new marker that would expand the variability, say by increasing the stuctural components to 22–or whatever configuration can function in their topology (folding in 3-d space) with other segments the way 16/18S rRNA does, provided that it is feasible.
I’m going to look this up. I’m going to guess that, over time, it’s come to look immutable, but at some time in the past, it wasn’t. Hopeful monsters and our misbeliefs and all that.
I mean, … there was a time when there were likely all kinds of weird single-celled life and life-ish things. We’re left with weird fusions (chloroplasts, mitochondria), and given that all multicellular life has one or the other, obviously this was pretty critical. Any free-range chloroplasts about?
There must have been many times when the very character of life was, well, unrecognizable by us.
And then there are the archaea. Neither eukaryote or prokaryote, no organelles, vastly more diverse than all other living things combined, and ubiquitous in every conceivable environment, from the stratosphere to deep in the Earth’s crust. They eat, … well, … everything. Some parasitize. Others have bizarrely complex relationships that seem like they’re been engineered by psychotic megalomaniacs. Archaea that live in a termite parasite that live in a termite that lives in a living tree – except for the tree, none could any longer exist without the other.
There was a time when life made a mockery of creationist ideas, in its bizarre complexity. Every million years, it’s a different planet.
Ultimately, this brouhaha over things like climate change is irrelevant. The Earth’s temperature is like a yoyo. Extinctions go on without our help. When we evolved, there was a huge extinction event going on at the same time. We think we’re so relevant.
Life defies our little ideologies and pretty lies. It doesn’t care what we think. It just is. Equalists, creationists, philosophers and feminists – they can construct whatever edifice they want, but life just is, and it does what it does.
If this has all been planned out from the start, I have a few complaints for the manager, by the way. First, … why so many damned parasites?
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yes, my bad there gorbachev: i forgot that you are a “race realist” who wants to cure black pathology through a more concerted effort by whites, rather than a “racist”.
yes, “we” can internalize everyone else’s locus of control, as any good neocon believes, and get them all into lock-step.
i can’t imagine the content of those sunday school classes that seem to have indoctrinated your pedestalized philo-semitism. my old church was probably too politically correct and blank-slate to stress a specific adoration of our ancient friends. the jewish model of ethnocentrism is great! you are so close yet so far in grasping how a white observer sees that.
i am not interested in conversing with you, since you and i both lack the panache to change each others’ minds about anything at all. i will continue to make pithy remarks about your comments where i see the most repulsive falsehoods, so that the sponges might consider your janus face rather than digest the whole of your tainted, wordy overloads.
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Gorby, If this has all been planned out from the start, I have a few complaints for the manager, by the way. First, … why so many damned parasites?
Blacks, Messicans, Mooselimbs? 😉
Levity off…
Okie. I have no problems with evolution as a concept (I have some problems with Evolution–the holy neo-darvinian church), I just mention’d the boundaries that I see as uncrossable. So, if you have already a phylum of vermin, they do adapt and seek the niches. If they are too greedy, they go extinct.
But let’s look at the concept of a parasite. It is a policing mechanism. If I were to consider it’s purpose, it would be a pruning of weak or ill organisms. Humans have a capacity to beat the critt, by their adaptation–wits and ability to remember and extrapolate causal relationships and project. We are quite a formidable enemy of the critts with a parasitic lifestyle.
Except our own humaniform parasites, which is another story.
Take wolves, for instance. Do they seem parasitic? And yet, they engage in the same pattern, essentially, as parasites–policing. They do not take the healthiest members of the herd, they go after the weakest, and they shit test the herd for a considerable time before going for the kill. Big cats, if they are a part of a social group (pack) do the same.
So, the things that may seem objectionable to you may have a deeper meaning that you are overlooking because you don’t see beyond your own biological imperatives.
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Gorby, The rule often is: If you agree with me, you’re not a Jew. Good girl.
If you disagree with me? DIRTY LITTLE JEW! CONSPIRACY! NWO BLACK HELICOPTERS SECRET CABALS!
I have to agree. An anecdote…
My granpa told me that when he got the newspaper one morning in 1952, he thought for a moment he got into some kind of time machine and was dumped into Protektorat Böhmen und Mähren times.
It was the day when Communist Party show trials ended and the sentences were announced:
Rudolf Slánský, Jew, Death Penalty
Otto Fischl, Jew, Death Penalty
Vladimír Clementis, Jew, Death Penalty
and so on.
Just like under the Nazi occupation.
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@Cannon’s Canon
yes, my bad there gorbachev: i forgot that you are a “race realist” who wants to cure black pathology through a more concerted effort by whites, rather than a “racist”.
Pedantic, but there *is* a difference. Not to Obsidian, of course.
yes, “we” can internalize everyone else’s locus of control, as any good neocon believes, and get them all into lock-step.
I’d say we don’t have to do too much of anything, dude. Just stop welfare, stop affirmative action and let the chips fall wherever. Stop spending on prisons, make ’em work it off, and invest in schools. Maybe we need to invest more. We’re not getting rid of them, so maybe we could work on bettering them in an intelligent way. Every Leftist strategy has failed abominably. I suggest more cops, treat slums like places where we need to send armed troops, recruit the good ones, invest in decent schools, trash the kids who don’t study, and remove any incentive to suck of the teat of the state.
Will work wonders for white proles, too, and costs a helluva lot less than what we spend now.
We’re not getting rid of them. That’s my point. So we might as well do something about it. More welfare checks aren’t going to help anybody. Maybe real expectations, real consequences (i.e., starvation and death for lazy criminals), and real opportunities will do it. If not, there’s always prisons and work-camp prisons.
You just gave up after the liberal idiots fucked up. In our current situation, despite appearances, giving up is not a real option. That you don’t see this is unfortunate.
i can’t imagine the content of those sunday school classes that seem to have indoctrinated your pedestalized philo-semitism.
I just don’t hate Jews. Big difference. The act of not hating Jews doesn’t make me a Philo Semite. For the white nationalists out there (not necessarily you), not viscerally wishing all Jews to Israel (or preferably vanishing altogether) seems to make one a Jew-Lover. If I look at a Jew or anyone and take them as they come, apparently, I’m a Jew lover.
Is that what it’s all about?
my old church was probably too politically correct and blank-slate to stress a specific adoration of our ancient friends. the jewish model of ethnocentrism is great! you are so close yet so far in grasping how a white observer sees that.
I don’t vote for Jewish Supremacy, CC. I also don’t vote for dragging them out of wherever they work and creating a Jewistan somewhere a la Stalin.
There may be something to the conflation of interests that creates a de-facto lefty hive of thought. But there’s no conspiracy, no cabal, no grand plan, no great Jewish Design. Just a bunch of people as deluded as the rest of us. Consequentially deluded, given the media/money power, but deluded folks like us nonetheless.
Also, in the middle east, they make awesome allies against the hordes of Muslim nutcakes. And the Muslim nutcakes are a much bigger threat. Spend some time in France. You’ll forget Jews and start worrying about threats that matter. Like Islamists and Islam.
i am not interested in conversing with you, since you and i both lack the panache to change each others’ minds about anything at all.
This is obvious.
i will continue to make pithy remarks about your comments where i see the most repulsive falsehoods, so that the sponges might consider your janus face rather than digest the whole of your tainted, wordy overloads.
We understand each other, then.
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@Ryder
Stick to the rhetoric about white nations being overrun. You’re correct about that problem (albeit confused about the solution).
On the idea of Bros Before Hos, you’re writing like a recent Boy Scout who just discovered that, hey, there’s sometimes a trade-off between getting the pre-selection benefits of good wingmen and maybe wanting the girl one of your wingmen is talking with. No shit. An Alpha will consider the Net Present Value of any action he takes.
What the fuck does that have to do with your pansy-assed honor code about having to ask a woman’s brother if you can fuck her after he told you that your genes weren’t good enough for her? Roissy just slammed someone as a troll who tried defending you on that point.
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@Ryder
On the idea of Bros Before Hos, you’re writing like a recent Boy Scout who just discovered that, hey, there’s sometimes a trade-off between getting the pre-selection benefits of good wingmen and maybe wanting the girl one of your wingmen is talking with. No shit. An Alpha will consider the Net Present Value of any action he takes.
What the fuck does that have to do with your pansy-assed honor code about having to ask a woman’s brother if you can fuck her after he told you that your genes weren’t good enough for her? Roissy just slammed someone as a troll who tried defending you on that point.
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@Ryder
On the idea of Bros Before Hos, you’re writing like a recent Boy Scout who just discovered that, hey, there’s sometimes a trade-off between getting the pre-selection benefits of good wingmen and maybe wanting the girl one of your wingmen is talking with. No shit. An Alpha will consider the Net Present Value of any action he takes.
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#CR,
[Editor: White is colloquial for the Caucasian race. There are ethnicities within that race, just as there are within the Asian and African races. But the average Eastern European will be more genetically and culturally compatible with the founding Anglo-Germanic stock of America than will the average Mexican. Think of the world’s races and ethnicities as a giant Venn diagram. The more overlap in Venn circles, the stronger the nation. The less overlap in Venn circles, the more likely the nation will implode under the ancient human directive to organize into in-groups and out-groups.]
What about the average Spaniard?
And the imperative to organize is pretty strong, I agree. Even with no differences, we’ll find something to divide ourselves with.
No argument with me on Mexicans.
But on Mexicans, we need to be smarter about how we deal with the problem. Currently, we have no strategy of any kind. We need the Mexicans to go along with us. They’re right there; it’s kinda like Finland next to the Soviet Union.
Ideally, we could just put up chain-link electrified fences and have machine-gun nests randomly spray stragglers. Alas, this might go over poorly.
So perhaps we need a new strategy. Perhaps we need to get what we want less by invective and hate, and more by subverting the wills of Mexicans to actually stay here.
All of this is moot. The Liberal Establishment listens to neither you nor me. And our white-nationalist friends do less than nothing to help the cause.
That’s the problem. They may be setting us back. We can still buy off the mushy middle if we put some elbow grease into it.
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@Morsellaux
Gorby, The rule often is: If you agree with me, you’re not a Jew. Good girl.
If you disagree with me? DIRTY LITTLE JEW! CONSPIRACY! NWO BLACK HELICOPTERS SECRET CABALS!
I have to agree. An anecdote…
My granpa told me that when he got the newspaper one morning in 1952, he thought for a moment he got into some kind of time machine and was dumped into Protektorat Böhmen und Mähren times.
It was the day when Communist Party show trials ended and the sentences were announced:
Rudolf Slánský, Jew, Death Penalty
Otto Fischl, Jew, Death Penalty
Vladimír Clementis, Jew, Death Penalty
and so on.
Just like under the Nazi occupation.
This is why I despise white nationalists.
It’s the same screwed up collectivism that leftists and retards spout. They just don’t see it.
Nazis and Communists and White Nationalists and Feminists all have the same analysis of the world, when you get right down to it. They use the same tools: Collectives are everything.
If one man goes to jail falsely accused of rape, it’s okay, say feminists: All men are guilty as men. The category trumps all.
Once the collectivist thought starts trumping, all kinds of shit starts flying. This is the ultimate source of the shit: Collectivism.
You can have ethnicities and cultural and racial identities without falling into rank socialist collectivism. If anything, white nationalists are more prone to this kind of collectivism than anyone else in America today.
The real enemy is this collectivism. It’s never served English culture well. We conquered as free men; not as mindless automatons of the Great Collective of whatever.
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@Ryder
Noting that a smart guy (regardless of whether he’s Alpha or Beta) won’t sacrifice a good Wingman relationship for less than what he considers a keeper, what the fuck does that have to do with your pansy-assed honor code about having to ask a woman’s brother if you can fuck her after he told you that your genes weren’t good enough for her? Your problem is you’d still want to be friends with an asshole like that which is why you’d define it as being “sneaky” if an Alpha basically said fuck you to the racist brother and fucked the sister.
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@Ryder
CR slammed someone as a troll yesterday who was defending your bullshit idea that “Bros Before Hos” applies to asking a woman’s family if you can have permission to fuck her.
You are getting a pass on that with him because you correctly note that white nations are targeted for dilution. More of that rhetoric is welcome (minus the bloody revolution nonsense).
If you want to argue, don’t make shit up. I never said I’d fuck over a good wingman and I said that it was clearly the Islamic *culture* not any Turkish male that cockblocks Americans.
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morsellaux,
i hate to temper statements with qualifications like “i think you’re pretty cool for an old dude”
but i’ll put that out there
your anecdote illustrates the rabid MSM culture of occidental ethnocentrism way back then. it was judgmental, baseless (at a non population-group level), and perhaps dishonorable.
it’s an undeniable element of the era we “pathetic whites”, to quote obsidian, can’t help fawning over.
today, we live in the polar opposite. that deplorable sin of “Tea Party Conservatism” suffixes all such eulogies. black malfeasance, however, remains unmentionable. and as for the jews? well, we know that they are smart and rich, medially. they are influential. they are a small (increasing?) fraction of the populace.
so, jews influence (even dominate?) legalities in this country now, as well as fiscal policy, higher education, media(that’s you, gorbachev), and all of those resulting cultural mores. someone who passively observes that in the past 60 years, jews have really caught the ball running against that 1950’s ideal are going to say that this aspect is unmentionable? it is foul play? why? because six million reasons?
this isn’t a dan brown novel where we chase the cabal up into its secret tower. it’s a wholly different, parasitical culture (several, really) that i would have no problem with expelling.
our ancient friends have their own synchronized culture, ethnicity, and religion, all at the same time. religion? fine; fading into the liberal diaspora anyway. plus, they don’t recruit, ever. ethnicity? well, they’re white-faced, and the chicks have big boobs and suck dick. so, cool. i guess it’s only the culture that i find repugnant. that is the ring-a-ding-ding. we are now amulti-cultural sovereignty, to the detriment of myself, my family, and the people who appear and behave as i do.
if some proverbial outsider wants to assimilate: fine, get with the winners (yeah, not the present-day winners though). if you bow your head at the front door upon entering, you can stay awhile too. if you are an interloper by nature, like Jerry and Xsplat, that’s not cool with me. that’s my WN right there.
i have proofread this comment and found nothing that i couldn’t say in real life to my own jewish friends, given proper context.
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@Ryder
I take that back: Consider writing *more* about how you think a bloody revolution would go down because talk of getting laid (or refusing to out of honor) doesn’t seem to be where your brain works best. You and Gorby are mostly talking past each other. Where the fuck is your analysis of Mitch McConnell’s liberal GOP posse going down in flames as his feminist Senate allies get defeated in the GOP primaries by the Tea Party (the defeats of Lisa Murkowski and Kay Bailey Hutchison)? Will the first shots of the revolution involve the assassination of some CFR members that the public and blogosphere refuses to morn for? Your strength is clearly not in fucking Japanese or Estonian girls. Work your strong points.
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@CC
My WN (and Hitler’s by the way) regarding Jewish people is that, if the women have big boobs (like the daughter in the link above or whatever), then what the fuck are they doing segregating them from those of us who want to have sex with them?
Hitler was rejected by luscious Jewish babes in Vienna, often because their families objected to his not being part of their tribe. This had a lot to do with his wanting to wipe out that tribe. Its human nature to think this way, and this is why you and Ryder are completely full of shit when you say you’d respect those who tell you that you’re not good enough for their sister/daughter.
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@Ryder and CC
Half the guys on Stormfront would completely agree with me and any thread on this topic would be quickly locked down (the monitors don’t like seeing how WNs can’t really agree on any topic regarding sex).
You are proving that I’m write about this being controversial on Stormfront because you are not trying to argue that this isn’t true.
It is Beta to the Bone not to criticize Hassidic Jews for their biggest sin, which is that they tell their daughters not to fuck Gentiles. You two would PRAISE Hassidic Jews for this. Jeez.
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@Gorby
Your point was just made by @CC when he called me an “Interloper” for being of Germanic/British descent while mating with white East European women.
You are correct that this is where WNs self destruct intellectually. Its basically “if you don’t agree with me on something, than your seed is polluting any women you mate with”.
Wake up CC. Your conducting friendly fire on fellow regulars.
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@Ryder
Another thing is you really need to read books on evolutionary biology even if you’re a religious creationist type. You got too upset when I said that I wouldn’t tell a racist asshole that I wasn’t really friends with him anymore if I was getting something from his sister.
Adapting to hostile conditions, females will wear push-up bras and Arab men will say they’re Jewish in order to fuck Israeli girls (a Beta Israeli judge just convicted an Arab man of rape for doing this).
It is childish to condemn “sneaky” on this board unless you’re saying a man shouldn’t fuck the wife of someone he respects or that he shouldn’t bad-mouth a buddy to steal his girl at a bar (an English tourist tried to do that to me a few months ago and the woman instantly rejected him for it).
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There are intelligent WNs at Stormfront or were years ago when I checked last. They are the reason why threads get locked up.
Intelligent WN = Let’s stop the immigration of people whose daughters aren’t sexy or who are trained to refuse sex with us.
If the Hispanics crossing the Mexican border included a lot of really luscious looking nubile women who were *hoping* to move in with some cool American male, then most single white American males would head for the border to pick and choose which babe they wanted to take home with them.
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jerry,
i think that our difference is: you envision supremacy, whereas i envision ethnocentrism. you live abroad, no? (as does xsplat)
i fall into the “paleo” line of conservatism, i suppose. no clever rejoinder. it sucks walking two blocks to the subway in a tie and being followed by a crackhead repeating, “hey white man! hey white man! hey white man! hey white man!”
in philosophical terms, you presume supremacy, whereas i simply infer it. that’s not a disagreement, just an order of thought.
i don’t fuck with stormfront, and as a rule, you should keep that name out of your mouth yourself when you try to make charismatic appeals to behavior. being white is fucking spectacular, but WNism is currently for losers, and the change needs to come from the outside.
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But the Hispanics crossing the Mexican border are mostly *not* bringing attractive, intelligent nubile women with them whom single American men can meet at the border and take home. Playboy *never* even considered a “Girls of the Mexican Invasion Calendar” or issue. If, on top of that, alien familes discouraged hot daughters from mating with Americans, then…coupled with the Marxism and other problems the immigrant community brings, an intelligent WN would have plenty to condemn. We need to remove feminists from Homeland Security because they want ugly low-IQ women to immigrate as a priority.
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hahaha when a crackhead follows me to the subway entrance, i get pissed at the CIA, since they are the ones who invented and still supply crack to suppress the black underclass.
i am thinking about taking the tax penalty and cashing out $20K from retirement (jeezy says he is mr. 17.5 though) and going to langley to reup. an industry as infinite as that wisdom
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@CC
Yes, you could say I was coming at @Ryder’s Japanese “friend” scenario from a point of view of supremacy, not because I believe in white supremacy so much as I believe that anyone who calls himself a White Nationalist is better off thinking more like a supremacist than like a “fair” politically correct ideolog who says “let’s allow others to be racist toward us. Its only fair because we do that to them”.
My argument with @Ryder was that it is NOT OK for other races to cockblock us even if one accepts the idea that its OK to tell your sister not to have white guilt when a black man tries to game her with it.
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jerry, please cut it with the hitler references or i am going to have to refuse to respond to you. chic noir knows… i have refused to respond for much less
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@Dream Puppy
Your great comment reminded me of the film “Shallow Hal” about the guy who was hypnotized into thinking a 2 was a 10.
My idea of a 10 also includes Mariah Carey when she was 19, however. In reality, D-Cup women with bubble butts that aren’t really fat are highly desired and are often more stuck up than the ubiquitous (in Europe) small girls with B cups and perfect faces like Britney Spears and Paris Hilton once had.
I consider the skinny girls whom American men tend to think of as 9s and 10s to be 7s and, because I show no interest, I end up having them chase me over here. If Roissy likes them thin, I could set him up with two weeks worth of hot dates. I can’t get it up for any woman less than 145 pounds (which is still too thin for any woman over 5’10”).
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@CC
Agreed. I still find the most fascinating about his psyche is that a Jewish family in Vienna really did tell their daughter not to date him when he, apparently, fell in love with her.
He was cockblocked big-time by racist Jewish people. I believe that really pissed him off.
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anyone … is better off thinking more like a supremacist than like a “fair” politically correct ideologue
tragedy of the commons, my dude
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons
us civilized folk gotta draw the line and hold the door once in a while for the occasional odd couple
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He was cockblocked big-time by racist Jewish people
didn’t intend to go here… but… ME TOO!!
ahhh
back in the day when i was young, i’m not a kid anymore, but some days, i sit and wish i was a kid again
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By the way, “Net Present Value” in a “My wingman is talking to a chick I want whom he just met in my presence” situation would be calculated like this (Wall Street math):
1) Take the value of the sex you can have today and subtract the value of your friendship with the wingman including the value of women he can help you get in the future (discounted at say 10%). Note the value of your friend could be so high that no woman could come between you, ever.
2) Discount according to the odds you will succeed with the target and whether you’d want her only temporarily or as a possible LTR or wife.
3) Multiple by 1 + the percentage odds that your wingman will understand and/or accept.
In my experience, the most effective wingmen have understood the above thought process as common sense except here are important rules to follow however:
1) Never move on a woman that your friend found at another venue and took there.
2) Never bad mouth your friend including revealing any fibs he may have made to a woman.
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very Keynesian, that math
an insult that requires no explanation
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Last night I saw a version of “Everybody Loves Raymond” translated into the local East European language and I was shocked to see an episode where Raymond and his bitch wife helped get his brother rejected by an 18 year old by telling her that he was really 41 when he’d told her she was younger.
If I were Raymond’s brother, I’d start telling Raymond to divorce that wife pronto. She’d even admitted that the younger woman made her feel insecure about her own age, making it OK for her to sabotage the brother’s relationship.
The “happy end” came when Raymond and his wife made love, somehow proving to her that Raymond wouldn’t get ideas like his brother.
The propaganda that its OK for older women to act this way is getting slowly piped into Eastern Europe.
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i just swallowed the wrong end of a futures pop (no homo)
eeeeeeeeeeeeeandi’mout!
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@CC
For what its worth, I’ve never usurped a wingman’s target.
I’ve had a wingman successfullly take one away from me (20 years ago) but I’m still friends with the guy. She was a liberal fruitcake and he won fair and square.
As you know, my idea of a 10 is someone you would pass on to me and my idea of a 7 is someone you might consider a 10, in which case I’d pass her along to you.
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Gorb
Make em work it off. You mean inside prison walls with prison-pay, or abolishing minimum wage?
Personally I think that welfare should be paid for in part by food (from soup kitchens that don’t serve sweet soft drinks and offer no french fries) and housing, and you qualify for it only if you put in x number of hours of work per week at the sweat shop and don’t get fired more than 10 times from the sweat shops.
Why not have Chinese pay laborers within US borders? You could put little cities in the desert and fill em up with people under an entirely different economy.
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But the best government works project would be to plant parabolic mirrors in the desert. That would keep busy for years, and have a perfectly acceptable cost for benefit.
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Anyone seen anything big get created in us since the trillion dollar stimulas was passed.
We should of at least gotten flying cars or some shit where are they?
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””””xsplat
But the best government works project would be to plant parabolic mirrors in the desert. That would keep busy for years, and have a perfectly acceptable cost for benefit.
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Don’t be stealing my ideas oh wait do.
How bout just creating giant diamon mirrors to heat that water to steam really nobody is putting the big dollars behind some mass produced shit so we have free energy and the cost of manufacturing automated style goes down to almost 0.
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””””””Cannon’s Canon
He was cockblocked big-time by racist Jewish people
didn’t intend to go here… but… ME TOO!!
ahhh
back in the day when i was young, i’m not a kid anymore, but some days, i sit and wish i was a kid again
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Well yea just needed woman and friends right.
It can be like that just get real estate instead of futures.
It is a winning strategy vs a losing strategy.
One is real one is not.
But after you get the real estate then you can play futures.
Course I didn’t listen to my own advice on that.
You can have 600 and then wake up and have 160 and be like wtf now I can’t retire. sob
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You know jews get money on real estate not really as much on market saw what happened when they got lazy with maddoff. he he he
There is a reason it is called
Real
estate
Pay it off cash and it is real income.
Or a house paid off cash is a real place to stay.
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So maybe really we don’t want to be kids eh
Otherwise we would beat the shit and have a fun only zone where play would be the work.
I still gonna do it though he he he
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Editor says, “Editor: White is colloquial for the Caucasian race. There are ethnicities within that race, just as there are within the Asian and African races.”
This is where you’re wrong. The definition of a race, in modern genetic terms, is a group of people who’ve lived isolated from others long enough to become relatively distinct.
There is a “white gene”, but not all pale people have it. Not even all Europeans do. Some people are pale for entirely different genetic reasons than others.
Even among those who do have it, there are other differences that would render them racially distinct from others.
“White” is an umbrella term. Alba, Anglo-Saxon, and Viking are races.
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Thinking on it further, American White probably is a race by now. There’s been enough interbreeding between the variety of European races in the U.S. to make a sort of new “mongrel” race.
Black Americans can be viewed much the same. Africans don’t consider themselves the same race as us.
…though because of certain tendencies, I wonder if despite lack of records, people did pretty much stay close to their own. I’m thinking in terms of familiarity and aesthetic preferences.
My mom is beige-pink, but she preferred the looks of men who looked like her father: very dark West African type. Even though I dated and ultimately married out, my eye is still drawn to guys of any complexion who have a distinctive nose and a high ass.
Anyway, my point is that Americans are different. White may be a race in the U.S. to a degree, but it’s not a race anywhere else.
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””””””’we are now amulti-cultural sovereignty, to the detriment of myself, my family, and the people who appear and behave as i do.””””’
If you do the right moves to create your own version of that type of sovereinty is how I think beat game. Don’t look at jews as something not to emulate. I look at it as emulating to point where I create a little mini empire that helps its own become huge where choices they make have no serious downside as long as they do the original work.
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American White probably is a race by now.
I’d say white Americans come in two major races:
Southerners, mostly of Scotch-Irish descent and having that “redneck” look like Kid Rock or the guys from Lynyrd Skynyrd. You know the look I’m talking about. You will not find people who look like that anywhere in Europe; only in the southern Maryland-to-northern Arkansas arch through the Appalachians and the South. They tend to be tall, lean and blondish.
The other white American sub-race is “all other white Americans,” mostly of Anglo descent but with varying amounts of other European genes. Brown hair and brown eyes kind of west/central european look.
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The time for leaving your own out in wilderness ala spartans is over. You can do it to extent and hand out tools. There has to be a sparta to come back to though. You must have a base of operations without everyone just blowing in wind.
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Gunner, about the parabolic mirrors, they are one the least expensive alternative energy sources. Wind is cheaper. I suggest a public works project for the mirrors, as I’m guessing labor of installation and maintenance plays a big part in the cost, as opposed to wind which has costly turbines where unskilled labor wouldn’t be of much use.
There is no space based solar collection alternative that is cost effective. No need to go space anyway – the US has huge useless deserts that could be irrigate if the solar power was used to desalinate and pump seawater. The US, instead of pissing away billions, could invest it with a 30 year return. Only 30 years!
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Nicole, some 20 years ago, there were US Marines stationed in one west African country. Just a small group, maybe 40-50. It was kind of peace keeping mission, if I understood correctly, though that may have been a cover. About a dozen of the guys were black. They thought that because of their ancestry, they would somehow connect better with locals, brotha kinda thingy. But that was not the case. So one of them decided to get to the bottom of it, why.
He started visiting a local cafe (if one can call it that) and tried to get friendly. One of the locals, actually a witch doctor educated in UK, seemed to like him and after some casual conversation, he explained how the black soldiers are perceived by the locals.
Their skin color was irrelevant. What locals saw was how they behaved, and they couldn’t make any distinction between black and white marines. As if they even did not register the skin color. All the marines behaved like… Americans.
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”””’xsplat
Gunner, about the parabolic mirrors, they are one the least expensive alternative energy sources. Wind is cheaper. I suggest a public works project for the mirrors, as I’m guessing labor of installation and maintenance plays a big part in the cost, as opposed to wind which has costly turbines where unskilled labor wouldn’t be of much use.
There is no space based solar collection alternative that is cost effective. No need to go space anyway – the US has huge useless deserts that could be irrigate if the solar power was used to desalinate and pump seawater. The US, instead of pissing away billions, could invest it with a 30 year return. Only 30 years!
”””’
Well yea I brought up the northern california dessert before and actually iraq has god awefull amount of pure space.
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Texas has complete land masses for sale cheap.
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with lakes and streams included.
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[Editor: White is colloquial for the Caucasian race. There are ethnicities within that race, just as there are within the Asian and African races. But the average Eastern European will be more genetically and culturally compatible with the founding Anglo-Germanic stock of America than will the average Mexican.
editor, you are better than this. “genetically and culturally compatible?” what does that even mean?
[Editor: What it says. Ten millions Germans will assimilate better into a Euro-centric nation than ten million Somalis because the cultural and genetic distance is shorter.]
you are the same guy who hangs out with VK and Roosh, right?
[Someone else. But to the larger point: it is possible to express certain policy and big picture ideas while at the same time behaving individualistically and apolitically in one’s personal life.]
as for the “Anglo-Germanic” stock that founded America, here is what Benjamin Franklin had to say about that:
Why should the Palatine Boors be suffered to swarm into our Settlements, and by herding together establish their Language and Manners to the Exclusion of ours? Why should Pennsylvania, founded by the English, become a Colony of Aliens, who will shortly be so numerous as to Germanize us instead of our Anglifying them, and will never adopt our Language or Customs, any more than they can acquire our Complexion.
sound familiar? and yet he was wrong. Germans were perfectly capable of becoming good and productive citizens.
[Ol Ben wasn’t wrong about the threat, he was (partially) wrong about the assimilative power of America at that time. (German immigrants did create some headaches for the country.) Luckily, back then the country was proud of itself and the continental European immigrants were happy to assimilate to the Anglo norm, said norm which was held by the majority of the population and thus available in large enough numbers to be assimilable toward. Today, that is not the case.
Also, Ben would be aghast today at the hordes of peasant third worlders coming here. His concerns may have been overstated back then, but today they would be right on the mark.]
the downfall of this country won’t come from it’s complection.
[By proxy, I’m afraid it will.]
it will come from the crushing weight of the ever-growing paternalist, bureaucratic welfare/war state; a state of affairs that will continue as the elites continue consolidating power while the peasants argue over whether eastern europeans are really “white” or whether obama was born in indonesia or whether AIDS was invented by the CIA or whether Jennifer Aniston will ever find a man. it’s all bullshit, people.
[Those things certainly aren’t helping.]
race realism or nationalism or human biodiversity or whatever newspeak term you want to use is simply a way for people to put a veneer of “science” over their pre-existing prejudices.
[Not all science is a veneer.]
mind you, if you want to be prejudiced or if you only want to associate with people of the same ethnicity, i’ve got no problem with that. it’s a free country, for now at least. just stop pretending that it’s natural or inevitable and anyone who disagrees with you is some sort of PC multiculturalist.
[I don’t say they are all PC robots. They may be a member of a tribe that would be inconvenienced by an American policy of immigration restriction.]
some of us just don’t care that much about race and prefer to make judgments based on an individuals actual behavior instead of some meaningless category.
[If the categories were meaningless, there wouldn’t have been a civil rights movement.]
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@Ryder
If you’re into a 12 hour delay debate how about this:
1) Answer directly to the issue of your belief that men should ask a woman’s family’s permission before sleeping with her.
2) Provide your take on whether a black man should ask your permission to sleep with your sister (with her permission) and what you’d do about it if he did and/or didn’t do this. Include your estimate of court costs and work hours lost to jail time.
3) You like to write long comments so flesh out your politically correct belief that White Supremacy is unfair and that white’s should respect reverse racism as a matter of course. That’s why they renamed it White Nationalism, right? The supremacists folded and admitted that others *should* be racist toward them.
4) Flesh out your belief that, just because Turkish Alphas will *continue* to travel and do what they do and you will *never* be able to stop them, doesn’t mean that white Americans should do the same thing.
After all, two wrongs don’t make a right, correct? If the Turks are going to continue to spread their DNA among other races doesn’t mean we whites should do it as well, correct?
Or do you have violent plans to stop Turkish men from traveling and gaming white women? If so, include your estimate of court costs and work hours lost to jail time.
5) Make sure you remind readers in each new Roissy post that you believe men should ask a woman’s brother’s permission before having sex with her. Do so early on so his 3000 readers per day can learn how not to be dishonorable when they pick up girls.
6) Ad hominem attacks are for weaklings to make. So personal insults about my “honor” (ironic coming from someone who calls himself a racist) and your diversionary attacks guessing on my prowess with women are not relevant to the discussion about how your belief on this matter is Beta to the Bone and foreign to the Geist of this blog.
I’ll have the last word on this.
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In the news:
An Hasidic Jewish town in New York put up a sign asking visitors to “maintain gender separation”:
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2010/08/31/welcome-to-kiryas-joel-please-dress-accordingly/
This would be a good subject for a CR post.
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@J R,
I have to agree with you. Race is irrelevant in this situation; we can’t get rid of the people we already have. we might ethnically cleanse it after we let our civilization completely destroy itself.
The welfare state has caused far more trouble than having genetically different people in our midst. We’re way off target, here. I’ve been making this point constantly, and the racial obsessives just seem to miss the larger picture in their collectivist ideologies.
editor, you are better than this. “genetically and culturally compatible?” what does that even mean? you are the same guy who hangs out with VK and Roosh, right?
as for the “Anglo-Germanic” stock that founded America, here is what Benjamin Franklin had to say about that:
Why should the Palatine Boors be suffered to swarm into our Settlements, and by herding together establish their Language and Manners to the Exclusion of ours? Why should Pennsylvania, founded by the English, become a Colony of Aliens, who will shortly be so numerous as to Germanize us instead of our Anglifying them, and will never adopt our Language or Customs, any more than they can acquire our Complexion.
sound familiar? and yet he was wrong. Germans were perfectly capable of becoming good and productive citizens.
Some people and cultures may be less able to do this. That said, there’s no arguing for it when it comes to the people who are actually already Americans. They’re Americans already.
the downfall of this country won’t come from it’s complection. it will come from the crushing weight of the ever-growing paternalist, bureaucratic welfare/war state; a state of affairs that will continue as the elites continue consolidating power while the peasants argue over whether eastern europeans are really “white” or whether obama was born in indonesia or whether AIDS was invented by the CIA or whether Jennifer Aniston will ever find a man. it’s all bullshit, people.
Much truth in this.
race realism or nationalism or human biodiversity or whatever newspeak term you want to use is simply a way for people to put a veneer of “science” over their pre-existing prejudices.
There may be more to it that you think – but less than lots of people credit it with.
mind you, if you want to be prejudiced or if you only want to associate with people of the same ethnicity, i’ve got no problem with that. it’s a free country, for now at least. just stop pretending that it’s natural or inevitable and anyone who disagrees with you is some sort of PC multiculturalist.
This is what pisses me off most. Anyone who doesn’t agree with hard-core racialists is, by definition, apparently the same as the PC-Feminist-Media Multiculturalist Establishment. There’s just People Who Agree With Me and Everyone Else. No shades of gray, no rival camps. Just Our Side or Their Side.
Like True Believers.
some of us just don’t care that much about race and prefer to make judgments based on an individuals actual behavior instead of some meaningless category.
This is ultimately the only way forward on a daily basis.
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I think one thing people have to remember when discussing race is that culture, which includes conscious selection criteria and mating policy, is as much a regional adaptation as the formation of subconscious or primal selection criteria.
In other words, culture both shapes and is shaped by genetic adaptation.
European cultures were formed in and by European climates with European terrain. Asian, Native American, and African cultures were also formed in and by their respective climates and terrains. So of course a large group of Germans is going to more easily assimilate into a European culture…provided that culture is in an area of Europe with a similar climate and terrain, where people made somewhat similar adaptations.
As one can see happening in the Americas, and on a smaller scale in Israel though, Europeans, for many reasons, will not thrive as well in a very different climate, no matter how eurocentric the culture is.
Something in their culture will have to give, or they will have to mix enough with the native population or balance with others, in order for them to thrive. Being okay with mixing is one way White Americans coped. If you’re Anglo, and the only available females who are strong enough to help tend your farm and bear you children at the same time are German or Dutch, you’re gonna learn to love broad shoulders on a girl, or you simply won’t make viable offspring and your line will die.
The problem is, as I mentioned before, the core culture has to be one, regardless of how many regional or family quirks there may be. Any American, regardless of their color, should be worried about outsiders with no loyalty to the nation or the culture, sweeping away their daughters, whether literally or ideologically.
So Americans going abroad to find love should be aware that good European families are going to have the same worries about you.
You’re a foreigner there. There are multitudes of Mizrahi Israelis darker than me, with curly hair and the whole nine yards, but fuck if I would ever assimilate with them. I and even most Ethiopians here, find we have much more in common and get along much better with Ashkenazim.
Now if straight-out-of-Africa people date and get along better with Europeans than with other technical Africans, that tells you something about the power of culture. High context cultures where even though there may be a lot of poverty and depravity, everybody knows what civilized behavior is, are going to get on better than lower cultures regardless of superficial similarities.
There is so much more to race then just color.
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Nicole you have set this thread on fucking fire.
And I’ve got your diamond cutter right here.
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:: deer-headlights-freeze ::
Is that a good thing or a bad thing?
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Your enlightened commentary here or the fact that you are separated from my diamond cutter by thousands of miles?
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Oh, thank you for the compliment. 🙂
Hell, if I’d known it caused erections, I’d have studied much harder in cultural anthropology.
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@Gorbachev and @J.R.
You’ve been writing well about collectivism but not from the POV of this forum, which would deal more with Sexual Realpolitik. CR has consistently said a guy should maximize his getting laid by traveling. Some WN men clearly don’t seem to want to leave, say the Tennessee bar scene, where they still may face rejection from Vanderbilt girls who want a man who demonstrates that French and Italian women would love to date him.
Collectivism, exported internationally, dries up pussies everywhere. Feminism, Religious Evangelism and concepts of State Nationalism all work to hurt the chances of American men overseas getting laid. We all know how feminism warns foreign women in advance to reject American men if and when they meet one. An American with half a brain can also figure out that it is wrong to promote the idea that Estonian women *should* prefer Estonian men out of patriotic nationalism. If every country did that, as with trade, mathematics show that there would logorithmically less pussy for every internationally oriented PUA of every nationality.
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Nicole “There is so much more to race then just color.”
Which is why conflating the concept of race and culture into one amalgam and using the term race gets in the way of clear thinking. I think this is Gorb’s main beef with how the conversations often run.
I don’t see disagreements between Gorb and the political CR contributor regarding groups. The only disagreement I see is what boundaries are useful in delineating groups.
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Here is a story from just last night about the vicious effects of American religious evangelism (collectivism) in Eastern Europe: While my local girlfriend wants to spoon 4 hours every evening, I try to restrict that to 2 hours and 3 nights per week. Last night I went hunting and did well with 3 out of 4 women I talked to in the 19-23 age range. But one attempt resulted in a flameout.
I was walking past a store and saw a 20 year old on line to buy something. I suddenly needed to buy something as well of course. She started talking to the interesting American beside her online (me) and showed she was intelligent and also spoke English well. She asked me to walk with her and her friend to a busstop. We saw to Mormon missionaries. She laughed. But then she said that she’d been proselytized and converted by another American cult, one that says women shouldn’t kiss until married. (Continued next comment)
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The brainwashed (by American evangelism) 20 year old went on and on about how she wanted to be a missionary in Africa. “Don’t you want to see the States?”. “No. Why would I want to do that?” “Don’t you want to get married to someone”. “No, why would I want to do that?” “Because Christians are supposed to value marriage”. Blank look (American evangelical movements are often feminist at heart). “But the Muslims in Kenya you want to convert will want to kill you instead.” Blank look. I said “I have to go but I can give you my number if you want”. She looks at me with disgust “What for?” and then with hate and triumph “No, seriously what for”. That made me angry for only the second time I’ve been in Eastern Europe. I said in her language “If you go to Africa to preach your views about how marriage is not important to you, you will use up your prime mating years. Don’t think for a minute that a 25 year old woman coming back to this country is going to be of interest to all the men who will be looking at the millions of women younger than you.” She looked at me with hatred. What’s sad is that the American brainwashers who got to her first, really will ruin her life. She will be old when she gets back from Africa.
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Nicole, what is so “icky” about Mizrahim? I know generalities, but a first hand assessment may have more heft to it.
Of course, Ashkenazim are “european” in their cultural space, but I don’t think you would find a lot of self-hating Jews amongst Mizrahim. Or am I wrong?
I agree with xsplat that amalgamating culture and race does fuzzy things up. In fact, your comment about Ethiopian Jews affinity to associate with Ashkenazim rather than with Mizrahim is a point in his case.
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The parents and older sister of the brainwashed 20 year old are, by her own account, traumatized that the American evangelists came in, ruined her for men and are now drawing her away to Africa. She was proud of this rebellion just like a newly converted feminist would be. The two collectivisms lead to the same end: hate. Her family must sure hate Americans now.
WNs would be correct to note that young women everywhere should respect tribal traditions, their parents and older siblings. An American “interloper” must respect these as well…as long as doing so helps his chances with the woman not sacrifices them.
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@xsplat
Nicole “There is so much more to race then just color.”
Which is why conflating the concept of race and culture into one amalgam and using the term race gets in the way of clear thinking. I think this is Gorb’s main beef with how the conversations often run.
I don’t see disagreements between Gorb and the political CR contributor regarding groups. The only disagreement I see is what boundaries are useful in delineating groups.
Yeah. Pretty much.
You can’t get clear results if you isolate for both culture and race at the same time.
There me be a 1.5 STDV difference in IQ, or there may not, though the jury is pretty much decided on this one; but what WNs miss is that this is largely immaterial. We can’t do anything about it. We need to live with it. And only culture can be our corrective.
And I would say that we’d better get in on the cultural / genetic self-betterment program before the Chinese thrash us, because they have no problem with these concepts.
I’ve never met people less PC-infected than the Chinese. Of course, they have their own “PC” to watch out for.
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Gorbachev, what’s “PC”? I’m not afraid to ask what I don’t know. haha!
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yeah. that makes sense.
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Morsellaux, where do I begin on Mizrahim?
They’re not all horrid, but the vast majority believe that they are inherently superior to sub saharan Africans. It’s so ingrained in their upbringing that they aren’t even conscious of their sociopathic behavior sometimes.
When I first started dating here, I didn’t know this, but I learned the hard way. Two out of two Moroccans I dated for some time popped up told me that we can’t have a serious relationship because I’m not Jewish.
What’s proof of their being fucked in the head is that they still expected to keep seeing me after they said this.
…like they can insult my ancestry, and I’m supposed to be okay with that.
Some Ethiopian and Askhenazi women here spit on the ground if a Mizrahi guy talks to them other than platonically, on the street. They don’t do it if an Ashkenazi guy speaks to them…even a Russian. I used to think this was racist in a bad way, but now I fully understand.
I just ignore them. My trying to be nice to a Moroccan guy recently, and not embarass him in front of his friends, resulted in my being cockblocked until the rumor mill runs its course. My lesson is learned for good and ever.
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Nicole, aha! Well, as a default position, one may argue that Mizrahim have a point. However, only as a default (we all have biases and prejudices) and then they should assess an individual based on other factors. I guess they skip the second part, entirely.
I think I mentioned my friend Christian from Nigeria. He is an exceptionally bright guy. But he readily admits he’s an exception. Also, he just can’t stand African-Americans. He considers them, in his own words, black trash.
I think there is a bit of prejudice in that. He knows that his ancestors took kind of a shortcut in dealing with their own refuse by selling them as slaves to westerners. He may still see them as refuse. In fact, when he came to US, there was really not much to convince him otherwise.
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Well, Morsellaux, this is the difference between civilized people and barbarians.
Civilized people, right or wrong, presume superiority based on something that matters, like merit, performance, and even breeding as it relates to merit and performance. White people in the U.S. coattail ride on IQ, education, and technology. Black people coattail ride on social adeptness, political prowess, and artistic abilities.
Whoever thinks they’re better than someone else by default in a civilized culture, believes it because the group they identify with are better *at* something else than others.
Stupid barbarians think they’re better than others just because they were born whatever.
Here, if someone is Mizrahi, they get to take tests multiple times until they pass in university. They also get other exceptions and benefits that make affirmative action look like nothing.
Most of them wouldn’t be anywhere without the system being dumbed down for them. Since they’re the majority now, they basically get laws passed that will benefit them and screw everybody else.
Americans should view Israel as the canary in the coalmine for Mexican immigration. You can actually be overrun by a group that isn’t better, but just better at churning out babies.
Too much prejudice and discrimination is bad, but there’s a point when you’ve moved from being fair to being a sucker. If you pay people to crap all over your country and your culture, that’s exactly what they’re going to do.
My area, near a center, used to be a prestigious neighborhood, but since they started the night bus during summer break and weekends, the place is full of arsim who don’t live around here. They come from areas where everything has to close by midnight or before, to areas where some places are open all night because they were safe.
Now it’s no longer safe. The trash from everywhere comes into our area, and it is filled with piss and broken glass by morning. What adds to the problem is the contempt they have for area locals. We do have some Mizrahim living here, but they are the kind who work and own businesses. Because of some of the crooks who bought apartments here, we even have brothels. It’s not that it’s a stuck up area like Denya.
…but these guys think it’s not fair that on welfare, their mom can’t afford an apartment in our area, so they turn over dumpsters, break bottles, and rob people, some of whom don’t make a whole lot more than their mom, but inherited their apartment or rent a small one room place because they’re old or a student.
It’s like if they started bussing people from the projects to a vibrant suburb to party.
…and then these middling to low IQ guys who half their family is in jail, and whose sister is sucking the cock of anybody who has some money, and whose mom has probably had more dicks in her than a pair of prison pants, look down on me. I’m not good enough for them.
They are welcome to believe whatever they like. It doesn’t take any money out of my bank account, and it doesn’t put any in theirs. It doesn’t take any points off my IQ, and it doesn’t add any to theirs. It doesn’t negatively impact my integrity, nor does it reflect positively on theirs.
It’s their Santa Claus. Merry Christmas to them one and all.
Civilized people have science. Barbarians have Santas. So even if the science is wrong, civilized people at least tried to get towards something like the truth. Barbarians will cut out their eyes not to see that the sky is blue if believing in a blue sky is inconvenient for them.
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Nicole, thanks, that was the perspective I had in mind and explains a lot. So… Jewish trash? Looks like it.
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Cannon What up with true arm size he he he
In my prime I had some 19 pythons.
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lol I never got into body building mags and shit but now I guess comparable to arnold.
Straight bar curls with 165 is the key.
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With attitudes like this and other things Obsidian has said about everyone knows brotha’s going to steel rather than fists in any fight, it’s no wonder such a high percentage of brotha’s are locked up. Good thing too so long as the attitude and reality persists.
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Nicole–
I agree.
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Not quite colloquial for Caucasians. More for people of European origin.
The middle east Arabs from Syria and Saudi Arabia and the Iranians are Caucasians, as are North Africans, or at least that’s by far the heaviest part of the mix there. Even Afgans and Pakistanis are. Neither most Americans nor most Europeans would consider these peoples white, and they don’t consider themselves that. Though “white” is more an American term, in our more diverse country, than a European one. It’s a pretty common term in the Middle East though – for Euros and offshoot societies.
Also this meme, which maybe comes from Andrew Hacker, that founding stock Americans used to not consider e.g. Italians, Irish Catholics or Eastern European slavs white is I think largely bullshite. It’s become a common meme among the left taken up by many blacks but that doesn’t mean it’s true. It’s true that many at first didn’t consider them to be “real Americans”. But I think the use of the concept of “not white” was rarely used from what I’ve read. Finding and few instances of that doesn’t remotely prove in was a common concept.
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With regard to Hispanics, from Mexico to Columbia, to Brazil, the basic truth is that the upper and upper middle classes are largely or entirely Spanish or Portugese. Some countries in Latin America are far more Euro than others such as Argentina, Uruguay and to a somewhat lesser extent Chile. Some are very heavily Indio such as Bolivia and Ecuador, and also Guatemala, Nicaragua and others in Central America. Mexico’s southern states such as Chiapas are that way too.
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Gorbachev–
You mean not openly attacking the communist party.
As for the first part of what you said, yeah the chinese are pretty damn ethnocentric / supremacist in their thinking.
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@Doug1
Gorbachev–
I’ve never met people less PC-infected than the Chinese. Of course, they have their own “PC” to watch out for.
You mean not openly attacking the communist party.
As for the first part of what you said, yeah the chinese are pretty damn ethnocentric / supremacist in their thinking.
The Chinese are unapologetic. When approached and asked if they would oppose a little bit of eugenics, and specific ideas, they say – maybe not a good idea. Maybe a good idea. But the people who say either of these both ask you where they can sign up for their own kids.
I tell you – we need to adopt this strategy if we plan to sit astride the world for any longer.
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””’I tell you – we need to adopt this strategy if we plan to sit astride the world for any longer.”’
How bout removing some barriers to success maybe like the ability of the 400 lb weight around a married dudes neck to fuck with him.
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As a Latvian with an Estonian mixture, I can attest that Baltic women are probably the most beautiful in Europe. Balts and Nords are generally the most beautiful people in the world, and the biggest concentration of blondes with attractive facial features can be found in this region. The Baltics are a man’s paradise, just like Sweden is a woman’s paradise (due to the high concentration of naturally handsome males).
One can hardly see such women anywhere in the West. However, Baltic girls are very secular and rather independent. It is the Slavic girls mostly that have the old fashioned values still to some extent (and they also judge the man based on his earning power).
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Laura wrote: “I just wonder if an Estonian woman would prefer an American man to an Estonian man.”
Generally, no. Most Estonian (and Latvian) women prefer their own nationality and approximately the same age group. Estonians also tend to favor Finns (their ethnic relatives) over other Europeans, although I have no idea to what extent they mate with each other. It is always easier to mate within one’s own ethnicity, but, of course, love is love. The Baltics are generally amicable towards Americans, so I don’t see any obstacle to dating American men (except the distance). Most of us can speak English, too. The values are pretty much the same in principle, but there are cultural nuances that are different.
Having said that… North American women have nothing to worry about. There will be plenty of men for all of us. 🙂 There is a surplus of men in the West, it seems, so if a small percentage of men marry abroad, it won’t really be felt or make any demographic difference that could change the attitudes and habits of American women. I think most American women couldn’t care less if American men date Baltic women. There are very few of us and we are dying out, as soon as in 5-10 years the number of fertile Baltic women will significantly decrease. Some young women are also migrating to the West and getting married there. One can point at the beauty of EE women, but the fact that some American men will date or marry them, will not change the gender demographic significantly. There are just too few young EE women to go around to make a difference.
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r gullit and p kluivert are not the Aged Heroes of white dutchmen
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I like turtles.
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