Does being a sexy female rock star with male romantic attention measured in the tens of millions inoculate a woman from oneitis for an alpha male who rejected her? Not if Katy Perry’s scorned lover meltdown is any indication.
Pointing out into the audience, she identified one specific member of the crowd and asked, “Is that Shane Lopes? You were the most popular kid in my class, but you never wanted to date me, it was always Amanda Wayne.” As the crowd laughed and cheered, she adopted a bit of swagger and added, “Oh yeah, you really chose right, honey. What’s up now, playa?” Becoming an international, Grammy-nominated pop star evidently does wonderful things for your self-confidence.
Perry dedicated her next song, a kiss-off anthem from her double-platinum 2008 disc “One of the Boys,” to her former crush and even tweaked a lyric in the middle of the song for the occasion, singing, “I can’t believe I fell in love with Shane Lopes.”
Five minutes of alpha — even worse, five minutes of alpha rejection — can fuck with the heads of even the most desirable women. And continue fucking with them years later. In comparison — if the reports are to be believed — women who divorce beta schlubs after years of marriage pretty much forget them before the ink is dry on the papers.
At the end of the tune, she looked directly at Lopes, held up her hand — which prominently displays her engagement ring — and said, “That’s cool, I got mine,” and mockingly blew him a kiss. The singer is set to marry raunchy British comic Russell Brand, who wooed her publicly from the stage while hosting the 2009 MTV Video Music Awards.
You gotta wonder if Russell Brand didn’t take this putative compliment in the spirit it was given. It’s easy to imagine him thinking “Daaaamnn, bitch still jonesing for that asshole!”
How do we know Katy’s crush was an alpha male?
Lopes, a former high school football star in Goleta, played quarterback at Delaware State, RadarOnline.com reports, before returning to his hometown to coach the high school team.
Even though Lopes is something of a loser today as defined by the societally conventional metric of career status, he is probably still the alpha male he was in high school, because alphaness is a state of mind rather than a station of occupation. Which explains why he so deftly handled Perry’s shit test outburst:
[Lopes] was a little embarrassed when Perry turned the spotlight on him, but claims her version of events wasn’t totally accurate. Calling her story “pretty fabricated,” he said, “I never got the feeling that she had a crush on me. We’ve always been friends. [Ed: Ouch.] I think it was more for entertainment and she was figuring out a way to segue into her next song and kinda embarrass me just for fun.” […]
Although an anti-Perry Facebook page titled “Shane Lopes picked correctly” has popped up, Lopes said he has no hard feelings about becoming the unwitting target of Perry’s performance. “I haven’t seen her in awhile. … I just know her as Katy Hudson so to see her as the famous Katy Perry is kinda hilarious!”
Nice neg.
Sweet schoolgirl impressionist and celebustrumpet Perry still aches for the alpha male who ignored her more than a decade ago. Who says game doesn’t work?
Anyone know if she had one of those wrapped-around-the-head retainers in high school or something like that?
Something like Shelly in South Park:
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Wasn’t it John Denver who said that the girls who didn’t care for him at all in high school were all swooning for him when he became famous? And by then he just didn’t care (he probably had to beat women off with a stick!)…
The comparison just amplifies the correctness of your point!
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If you haven’t spotted it, you need to fix the beginning of this post.
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I can’t believe Katy Perry’s Elmo video caused such a fuss. If you guys are anything like Britain in terms of culture, then that’s too little too late in terms of public decency.
Some people only realise they’re on a slippery slope once they’ve been hurtling down it and are at least halfway down.
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The boy was lucky/smart to refuse her, if they woud have been together, she woud leave him after she became famous and her self-percieved vaue increased. (Not that being a famous-pop-singer realy increases womens value. I would prefer a women who spends time washing dishes. But tell it to her. 🙂 )
Now he has a great preselection, he will forever be known as a guy who refused Katy Perry (well not actually forever, these modern trash pop singers have a short popularity time span), all the chicks will think that he is so special.
So she actually did him a big big favour.
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Sweet schoolgirl impressionist and celebustrumpet Perry still aches for the alpha male who ignored her more than a decade ago. Who says game doesn’t work?
One day I’ll be a high school sex-ed teacher (or something along that line, working with teenage girls) and I thought it would be a good idea to share some of my past experiences with men with them, but after this post I realize that continuing to talk about a man–for whatever reason–years after he rejected you–is just pathetic. It shows which one of you never really moved on.
That Katy was able to pick this guy out years later in a crowd of thousands of people tells you how deeply she pined away for him back in the day…even sadder because they apparently weren’t even intimately involved as “sex only” partners–this was completely one-sided on her part.
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she’d jump his bones if all those people weren’t around
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I remember reading that he said he was perfectly happy with his wife (high school sweet heart) and life in general; another blow to her ego no doubt.
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A lot of times guys who were cool in high school retain that easy confidence throughout their lives. I bet she still likes him.
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Perry was a nobody in school before her tits sprouted.
That’s why she pined for a dirty wetback.
Marrying a so-not-funny British Martian is no makeup, either.
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“The United States crossed an important marital threshold in 2009, with the number of young adults who have never married surpassing, for the first time in more than a century, the number who were married…”
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/29/us/29marriage.html?hpw
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Wow, he’s still in her head years after the fact. Just goes to show the futility and insanity of settling for the party girl (not referring to Katy) who aged out of the alpha-approved target rich environment.
Let this be a lesson, men. She’ll probably never stop pining away for the alpha guy who kicked her to the curb even when she’s no longer attracting alphas.
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“Celebustrumpet.” Heh heh.
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I dunno, but to me, this kind of bitter, vicarious, retrospective gloating (CR doing it on behalf of some other guy) has a strong whiff of bitter beta — even if it’s *former* beta. This post reads like it was written by a bitter person who enjoys seething with contempt, living for the gratification of getting revenge for past wrongs.
Isn’t it true that the more successful and happy you are in the present, the easier & more automatic it is for you to let go of the past, as well as to disregard current bullshit going on, with a breezy shrug of indifference?
Holding on to a grudge, glowering with past resentments, often indicates an ongoing lack of personal fulfillment.
It’s much like how obsessing on an ex lover, thinking ‘I MISS her and want her BACK now’ is actually more like just a symptom that you are needing a good lover in your life now — it need not be your ex — that’s an illusion.
Maybe it’s a kind of failure of your imagination to anticipate (visualize) yourself getting someone new.
When I catch myself feeling/thinking in those negative ways (angry about past wrongs or wishing I could change certain past choices I made), I ask myself how I can make my present & future life better, more fulfilling, etc.
Because that’s the only place I’m going to find a higher level of happiness — not reveling in hostility at those who may presently represent my past unhappiness.
Yeah, I know, sometimes doing that just feels sooo good.
And what’s the harm in doing it now & then?
But if it’s the prevailing behavior pattern, it reveals an ineffective pursuit of happiness; a perpetuation of bitterness & resentment.
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Yea lol the shit never goes away especially if you cheated on em.
They will pine for you for life.
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””””When I catch myself feeling/thinking in those negative ways (angry about past wrongs or wishing I could change certain past choices I made), I ask myself how I can make my present & future life better, more fulfilling, etc.
Because that’s the only place I’m going to find a higher level of happiness — not reveling in hostility at those who may presently represent my past unhappiness.”””””’
But what if it is not you and the world really is just all fucked up?
What do you do then lol
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Woman do need to understand that it wasn’t personnal if a guy fucked up their feeling when the were younger it was just hormones not personnal.
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Good post.
Even with all the celebrity, the comedy, the high-IQ witty observations on life, the “quaint” English accent (English myself), the peacocking wardrobe, the public declarations of his love . . . . . . . Poor Russell. Katy still just wants to get fucked by the high-school middle IQ mid-rate success alpha quarter-back and soak up his sperm.
I swear to god it sucks being English. Here’s a challnege for all you Americans . . . . Are there any ENGLISH (Scots dont count, My Dad is Scottish and I swear to god they are all born with the alpha chip implanted . . ..Didn’t cross-over to me I’m afraid) celebs that you would consider Alpha? I have come to the conslusion that there are none. I heartily recommend a visit to London for you Americans. English girls are very easy, although you have a challenge sifting through all the fat entitled pigs before you find a looker.
“I kissed a girl, and I liked it! . . . . . . . Although I was fantasisng about getting split in half by the dumb blonde jock . . . . . . “
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Sure: IF you think Katy Perry
made it on her “talent” alone
– rah
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you know, this reminds me of a …an onion? … article where there’s a recent streak of hot starlets dating “some dude.” As in someone not particularly famous. Michael Skinner said that now that he’s famous, it’s as hard for him to date famous chicks as it was for him to date normal chicks when he was also a nobody. So…game or alpha outweighs fame?
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I’d give Katy a hot karl
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This whole section was just priceless. She just comes off looking so pathetic here—claws out looking for revenge and this guy wasn’t even aware she’s spent the last decade pining away for him. The whole thing was entirely in her own mind. He even shoots up her stage persona—the bitch’ll always be Katy Hudson to me!
Poor Russell. Every night he’s banging her he’s got to know she’s gonna be fantasizing about the high school football cocksman she never had.
Pathetic.
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Lazy Guy — read the post. Five minutes of Alpha beats five years of Beta. Women are what they are. A woman, hooked on an Alpha, will never let go. Even when they are engaged to a big-shot celebrity and noted womanizer/ladies man.
Roissy’s advice is sound. Unless you know for certain you are the first Alpha a girl has had, it is extremely unwise to offer any commitment. Look at Russell Brand. If **HE** can’t make Katy Perry forget the HS QB, no one can.
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Nice post and analysis.
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Plus look at it realistically if he made no promises and you had no commitments verbalized you didn’t have shit.
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Perry is homely w/out makeup; don’t be fooled.
but this is pure alpha:
“I haven’t seen her in awhile. … I just know her as Katy Hudson so to see her as the famous Katy Perry is kinda hilarious!”
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I’m sure the story is a little bit exaggerated. We all know that women get over exes once they find someone more alpha… and Russell Brand is a world-famous cocky comedian who has slept with hundreds of women. Maybe she has a sentimental soft spot for the high school guy, but I don’t think Russell has anything legitimate to worry about here.
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I don’t think this shows anything about game, he never gamed her from what I can tell. It was simply a high-school crush. Look at Toby Keith’s song, “How do you like me now,” Toby is clearly alpha, and he has a song about this shit. High-school is a weird environment and feelings about relationships from that time are always stronger than they really should be. It’s like the discussion in the oneitus post, the more relationships you have the harder it is to become fascinated by and single relationship. (It can be assumed that at high school most relationships are some of the first you will have ever had.)
You’re telling me, alpha or not, if you made it to Katy Perry’s level of fame, and went back and saw that the girl you were sceretly fapping it out to was now the vice principal and your whole schtick was “guy power,” you wouldn’t way the same shit she did.
I blame this on marketing, to isolate this event and call it evidence of game working is negating the fact that marketing works in the entertainment business. I can only imagine how many teenage girls went out and bought her CD after hearing of this.
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I’ll never forget my first alpha. He was a Mercenary, and I was a JV volleyball player. Sparks flew during “Career Day.”
He never called me after he left town, but I kept three of his pubic hairs in a small vial that I attached to a lovely rose-gold chain.
When I graduated high school, I finally released those pubic hairs into the wind, like doves of sensuality.
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Another failure for Roissy. His acolytes FAIL:
http://siu.blogs.cnn.com/2010/09/29/our-documentary-takes-a-strange-detour/
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I saw that and thought it was embarrassing and undignified. Jeez, how completely uncool. Even if she’s still feeling the tingle for him, at least play it cool! Pathetic.
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ecce homo
She’s in the news of late on account of her tits, so any tidbit gets attention.
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Thank you, sweet mother Mary, thank you. I can think of countless white knight alpha-redefiners who need to print this out in big bold type and tape it to their bathroom mirrors. Alpha is a mindset, not a demographic.
That said, I wonder if Katy Hudson will feel the same way when her 15 minutes are up and she’s tossed into the trash can with the rest of the pop-diva kleenex?
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Great post & great media find. Katy Perry–celebustrumpet. Perfect. And one with oneitis at that. Hell yeah.
@Vodka & Ground Beef– you live in crazytown, in the most poetic way possible.
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Meanwhile, Russell Brand was getting his nob polished by one of the backup singers…
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Hey Firepower,
Okay, your response to my comment
(I dunno, but to me, this kind of bitter, vicarious, retrospective gloating (CR doing it on behalf of some other guy) has a strong whiff of bitter beta — even if it’s *former* beta.)
is
“Sure: IF you think Katy Perry
made it on her “talent” alone
– rah”
My outlook is, I couldn’t care less about Katy Perry, who she is, what she does, what she has, gets, how, etc.
To me she is only one tiny part of the distant noise of mass media chatter.
She isn’t about to make any impact on my experience of living my own life.
Even if I thought she’s HOT, I’m better off out looking for women I can know personally, rather than focusing on seeing & hearing some celebrity through the distance of mass media.
And I won’t get happier thinking a lot about how fair or unfair it is that other people got what they have.
The attitude conveyed by Shane Lopes illustrates a good way to be happy. With reasonable expectations of yourself & how the world treats you, taking care of your own life, such that you are doing what you can to get what you want most, you just lack the inclination to gloat about the unhappiness of others who have not hurt you personally (even if she’s a spoiled bitch).
That’s an option that just holds no allure for you and offers you no gratifcation.
It’s an option which appeals to those lacking leverage, traction, optimism, hope, self-assurance, self-possession, etc.
Sometimes I’m that grumbling, negatively gloating guy, but I try to stay out of that mode.
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Vodka deleted my post and then did a parody. (tear)
Funny blog though.
Are all the comments you?
he he he
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I hope some 5 from my past that I’ve rejected becomes hot and famous and calls me out publicly for rejecting her, thus giving me social proof in the short to mid term to bang hot stupid celebrity-obsessed whores. It’s like investing $20 in a savings account and forgetting about it only to have the bank call you decades later saying your investment has blossomed into a fortune.
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Great post.
While i complained about it at the time, i thank my lucky stars that none of my high school relationships panned out. if katy were smart – and if she wanted to neg lopes – she would have said the same thing on stage. instead she lowered her value by chasising Lopes’ decision. For perry, had lopes snagged her in his alpha web, the trajectory of her life would have been altered forever.
And lopes made the right decision anyway; just hypothetically assuming that perry still became a huge star, where would lopes stand in all of that? Not even the biggest alpha san status in the world can withstand a high-flying starlet. The required regimine of blowjobs for record producers at Hollywood parties would have shattered their relationship after their second month in.
Of course, this story isn’t to be dissected. Perry made a snap comment on stage which foregos any ability to maintain rational discourse; it becomes a match of wits, which Lopes – in my opinion – won. Lopes is obviously a clear-headed natural. None of his negs seemed contrived, and they bear a simplistic syntax which indicates they come from the heart.
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Katy Perry is prettier, which is probably why my little brother jerks off to her videos, but Lady Gaga has more talent.
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I figure Michael Caine and Richard Burton for alpha, maybe Lord Byron, definitely Churchill.
And who was that famous-in-England junkie who was/is fucking Amy Winehouse?
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“alphaness is a state of mind rather than a station of occupation.”
By that same token, can we all agree that female hotness is a physical trait and not a station of occupation?
Seems like a simple concept, but I think it’s funny/sad when grown men have crushes on celebrity females.
A Jessica Biel or Scarlett Johanson is attractive, sure – but those women can be found ANYWHERE.
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Shane’s fiance is more attractive than Katy too.
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have you guys seen this site?
http://rageagainstthemanchine.com/2009/07/05/why-i-hate-men-part-1-and-then-it-hit-me/
what a bunch of fucking nutjobs
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In high school, I wrote a song to kiss off one of my ex boyfriends, and sang it at a school assembly. It was a very satisfying moment for me. I felt guilty about it later when his marriage imploded, and then later he apologized to me for rejecting me.
I told him there’s nothing to apologize for. We were kids, and I learned what I needed to from it, which was that I was not okay with casual sex. He taught me one of the most valuable lessons of my love life.
Had it not been for him, I wouldn’t know that I could get irrationally attached. Once I learned that I could, I made sure to never let that happen again until I met the guy who I could trust with my life and everything else.
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Shane’s fiance is pretty cute:
Lopes also positions himself great in this photo. He’s standing straight while she’s leaning in slightly and has her hand on her chest.
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That reminds me of one of the best lines of alphaness, anywhere: “If I die now my love will still haunt you.”
And the next stanza is great, too:
“Mase ain’t the one that will pay for your phone,
Mase be the one that will take you home,
Even though I’m not the one that gave you the stone,
All your DAYS alone,
I could make you moan,”
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nicole’s comment put this in perspective for me. adolescence is supposed to be a sort of dress rehearsal for real life. you try things. you fail. you get embarrased and think you’ll never be able to show your face in public again. then you get older and realize that almost none of it really mattered. the end result is perspective, something that teenagers tend to lack.
in the last forty or so years, that process has started to change. youth culture became an incredibly valuable commodity. kids have all this free time and disposable income that they’ve never had before, so you get all this marketing and all this entertainment aimed at young people.
the message that teenagers should be hearing from adults is “can the drama and calm the fuck down! it’s high school. it will be over soon and then you can start your real life.” instead most of what is marketed to kids tends to reaffirm their short-sighted perspective and general lack of wisdom. it’s all about validation, “what you’re feeling right now is the most important thing in the world. give the fullest possible creedence to whatever emotional whims happen to be racking your hormone-adled, still-developing brains.”
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@woodins mate! I don’t know about celebrities, but my own personal experience has been that Englishmen are more alpha than american men. Plus American Girls love that British Accent which makes even a half decent looking Brit Bloke get the kind of sex life in the states, that he could only dream of in Old Blighty.
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Woodins,
Funny comment. I’ve always thought John Terry was cute and Simon Cowell is alpha in his own way.
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Mike, but what happens when the girl isn’t so busted that she has no other alpha options?
The first always holds a special place in one’s heart, whether it’s the first love or the first heartbreak or the first major mindfuck. After that, if a girl is smart, she learns something about herself that will hopefully cause her to make better choices in the future.
In my case, though the guy I wrote the song about “haunts” me because of the lesson I learned from it, I did much better than him in the long run. I’m so irrationally attached to my legal husband that I’ve stayed with him even though our relationship has been platonic for six years, and I’ve had offers from other guys to leave him.
Being rejected by an alpha may leave a mark, but it’s nothing like being branded.
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Vodka and ground beef = new wendy schwartz? sweet! This blog hasn’t had an aging ugly lady troll in awhile.
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When her husband cheats on her, dumps her, and she is broke, in rehab, and fat….he will be dating a 20 yo hottie
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Katy Perry, Katy Perry… never heard of her. Or is it Catty Perry? For celebstrumpets (I like the that neologism, though without the “u” in the middle), brain is not required. QED.
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I thought the same thing when I heard this story. I love how chicks think their celebrity or career success somehow increases their value…She not only solidified his alpha status with that rant, but served as a perfect example of female cluelessness.
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“alphaness is a state of mind rather than a station of occupation.”
Some shy beta is getting this tattooed in him as we speak for future encouragement.
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@ AM
That site is full of hate speach. I love how they don’t refrain from yelling “kill all men”.
Nutjobs indeed.
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@ Woodins
Half the celebrities we Americans think of as English are really Australian or Kiwi or Welsh or Irish. I was going to say Daniel Craig seems alpha, but then I saw this:
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Get 36k coming in a year and all the time in world and I guarrantee it will go a long way towards making you alpha he he he
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rage against the man-chine lol
funny site, the woes of those women shook me to my core lol
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@ Woodins
Jason Statham
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Sidewinder, in today’s feminized west, celebrity and career success does increase a woman’s value because it increases her mass appeal. Today, mass appeal is everything. It can make an ugly anorexic skank a beauty queen and anyone who says different is called misogynistic or jealous.
Popularity is what counts most to the sheeple. Quality is far, far down the list, or completely insignificant.
It is so even in your case, I’m afraid. You’re considering betraying your hot yet faithful wife, one of the unicorns, for a common mare just because she’s younger.
You don’t see that you’re right on schedule for an overly programmed western male who, having frankensteinian viscera scaffolded by crumbling bones paraded across your screen, thinks he can do better, not even knowing what better is.
You’re going to follow that trail of glistening crystal meth and glitter to your grave, if not with this young tart, the next…and you will suffer for it, and blame everything and everyone except your own cowardice to open your eyes and see how the system is destroying you.
You talk the talk, but fail to walk the walk because you fail to see what’s right in front of your face: the millions of dollars being thrown into the hats of these whores who are only distracting symbols for the poison seeping into your own soul.
Wake up.
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””””AM
have you guys seen this site?
http://rageagainstthemanchine.com/2009/07/05/why-i-hate-men-part-1-and-then-it-hit-me/
what a bunch of fucking nutjobs
”””’
I feel empowered after reading that site.
Aren’t woman the ones demanding child support and alimony from men though?
Can you get your friends to stop that?
Because that is one of the biggest obstacles to men having a choice of what to do with thier lives and basically turns them into slaves to woman.
If you want equality and don’t feel like you can raise the kids just give them to men and you can have your freedom and we can have the freedom to enjoy raising our kids ourselves. Woman are not needed in that process. I think that would also help with female empowermeant if they would just give the kid to the man instead of keeping it to use to beg for the mans money. Give the kid to man and we don’t need anything further from you. No child support no alimony we will handle it.
Go do what you want just leave us the fuck out of whatever it is if we break up. That would be great and go a long way towards equality.
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Anyone notice a chics hindbrain going haywire when you run effective direct game? She looks at you, tilts her head, stutters and her eyelids flicker. You are now forever burned into the tingle activation region of her brain.
Makes me think that’s what the alpha in this blog post did to the singer chic -crawled up inside her head and mind fucked her.
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Well have you seen on this blog when someone suggests th females quit talking and they are like a flock of birds.
Yea direct works.
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@Woodins
Daniel Craig
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Actually, someone already mentioned him.
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Jesus, Gunny, I feel like suggesting that on every single comment thread. With maybe one exception seen just above, the women posting here should put a sock in it. Too many threads over recent months have devolved into tea room discussions containing zero information relevant to the purpose of the blog or even of any interest to men. Except strictly as a reverse barometer.
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If tea rooms had extra-reinforced stripper poles, that is.
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Well I chased em all away almost. he he he
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You got to watch the flirting though online it has some relevance to game don’t ya think?
Be aloof for a while with chicks near you let them send ioi’s till they are frustrated and then go in for kill.
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Only problem online is it is a chick type medium.
There is no way to take them home after you make kill.
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Could be worse, the comments section on that I Hate Men blog posted above was a madhouse. Lots of bile, virtually no thought behind any of it. The only comments that were identifiably coming from a man were immediately shouted down.
I occasionally forget how comparitively classy the level of discourse is here.
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Or even know if they are chicks lol
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Katy Perry is a role model, that should not be taken lightly.
Millions of impressionable young minds, searching for a moral center, sexually ambiguous etc heard this woman diminish the character of someone who snubbed her, in front of millions of viewers.
So, in private, i don’t care what battyness she engages in. But when speaking to millions, her character is being copied.
Now, I must add that this act has nothing on the walking vulgarity-carnival called Madonna.
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Actually I think this goes to show despite the money and fame, Katy Perry is NOT an alpha woman!!
Russell is probably thinking what he’s getting himself into now. I reckon he’s probably the kind of guy who wants to match up with an alpha, and think he’s got one in Katy Perry. He just doesn’t come across to me as a guy who just wants women who worship him, but someone who can be his equal. He wouldn’t have gone thru the trouble otherwise.
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The high school guy’s wife is hotter than katy perry. case closed. They didn’t grow up in middle America. They grew up in Santa Barbara. Katy Perry was probably the 100th hottest girl at their high school.
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What a funny bird!
Still the uber-reject, living in her high school past…
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Wow! Classy! That’ll sure show him!
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Captain, that’s like saying, “Despite his large harem of women who bring him the money while he spends his days doing nothing but shagging and replenishing his sperm supply, his laughing at the girls in high school who snubbed him show that he is no alpha male.”
If you ever make it to the big time, whatever that may mean to you, see if you can resist the temptation to gloat a bit.
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I was waiting for you to blog about this.
You gotta wonder if Russell Brand didn’t take this putative compliment in the spirit it was given.
It evidently didn’t occur to the broad that the implication could be unflattering to her fiance, or, she simply didn’t care.
In either case, Brand is the worst kind of asshole, so he deserves the bitch.
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Seems as though Brand is alpha enough to shtup Katie and a few hundred other ladies, but may not have a lot of relationship game, when you see his lady humiliate her and himself in a packed concert.
Still, the man probably isn’t too concerned
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Nicole, it is the mindset. Not temporary circumstances. You may say that she is “technically” an alpha, but in reality, that li’l episode shows it ain’t so. After her 15 minutes of fame are over (granted, it would take a few years), she’ll revert to her true form.
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This post was 100% on target this time. I would think her new guy would bail after seeing that performance. And, yes, her old crush is going to be immensely raised in social status as a result.
But, any guy with any brains would bail out before getting married.
Girls just don’t get that to most men their social status means nothing. Education and intelligence mean a lot, but status and income? Nada. Only “user” guys care about a woman’s social status. Good luck with them.
The unpleasant truths just keep coming. Bring it on!
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Grampa, “this” guy won’t bail out, for a time being. He would happily shag any skirt that moves, beside his lawfully wedded wife, until the time when the Katy Perry’s star will be on a cusp. Then bailout with a golden parachute. It’s quite predictable.
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Precisely Morsellaux, spot on.
Nicole, I don’t think any true Alpha would gloat – pointless and futile exercise as it as already proved, and many of us agreed, in this particular instance.
I’m already too busy seeking out and enjoying fresh pussies to be concerned with any particular ones that rejected me in the past. And I’d imagine when I hit the big time I’d just be doing pretty much more of the same.
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Sorry, I thought real men weren’t turned on by status and fame like women were. Aside from her status, Katy Perry has astonishing little to offer.
Put her in the category, pre plastic surgery Madonna Louise Ciccone (Madonna), Angelina Germanotta (Lady Gaga), or Barbra Stresand.
A generous cleavage and a figure better than the average American body built by Wal-Mart are hardly enough to make up for a funny looking lumpy ethnic face that lacks any of the ethereal youthful grace that marks real beauty. Also she’s just too old.
This is not to diminish her art, but like any any of the fellows who make pleasant pop, I can enjoy her music too without being tempted to get into her tight pants.
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He get the golden parachute or she gets the golden parachute and he gets the golden fucking lol
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Somethings are better left unsaid. Silence is golden. The guy doesn’t even care.
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Wow, he SMOKED those responses. Her attempt to publicly humiliate him boomeranged badly.
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Is it possible that someone guy can lose his alphaness over a period of time for some reason? I mean he may have been an Alpha during school days and later on circumstances forced him to succumb!
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Women are simply not used to rejection the way men are. I have been in sales for several decades. Very few women really make it in my business. And when you look at the ones that do, they ususally have a man behind them (daddy of hubby) that supported them during the period when the bull elks were building their client bases.
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The other thing, of course, is her psychological projection. That her fame and success has ANYTHING to do with a man being attracted to her. Men are attracted to youth and beauty. She’s shaking her finger at him implying you could have ‘had all this’ (i.e., hooked up with a famous girl). The vast majority of men DO NOT CARE about the success of a woman. Is she young, pretty, and hot? Yes. Does she have a multi-platinum selling music album? Don’t care.
Katy Perry, like most women, is deep into psychological projection, with her little public display. As a woman she’s attracted to fame and fortune in the opposite sex. So she thinks men operate the same way. Nope.
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@intp
Your observation can be conclusion of dilemma a successful women goes through i.e. she thinks that men would love her if she is successful as women love successful men. But, alas! things are quite opposite in the case. Whereas successful women create fear in psycho of men, men try to run away from such women.
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Daniel Craig –
Hillarious.
Woodins
I swear to god it sucks being English. Here’s a challnege for all you Americans . . . . Are there any ENGLISH (Scots dont count, My Dad is Scottish and I swear to god they are all born with the alpha chip implanted . . ..Didn’t cross-over to me I’m afraid) celebs that you would consider Alpha? I have come to the conslusion that there are none. I heartily recommend a visit to London for you Americans. English girls are very easy, although you have a challenge sifting through all the fat entitled pigs before you find a looker.
We’re not all masochists over here.
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“Katy Perry is prettier, which is probably why my little brother jerks off to her videos, but Lady Gaga has more talent.”
Neither has any talent and the former is the only remotely attractive one of the two.
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Its completely trashy behavior because the guy did nothing deserving of her wrath. He simply didn’t notice her in high school.
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For the masochists among us…a forty minute interview with Jessica Valenti.
http://www.3quarksdaily.com/#ooid=w3amIzMTrOBpJhSuUx5tAPscaVgrg-SO
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Am Convinced Roissy is dead and his blog hacked by a poor impersonator.
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@GM….the fact Daniel Craig can pull this off, makes him alpha.
Also, throughout this whole sketch, he’s cool, aloof and she’s falling all over herself as the hungry cougar.
Brilliant.
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Another great scene from a movie but looking at the alpha/beta dichotomy.
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I can think of a bunch of English alphas, every one of them dead, sadly. One who leaps to mind is, dare I say it, Oswald Mosley, who charged hard, flew warplanes back when you had to fight pistol duels and boinked a path through the daughters of the aristocracy. Of course he then made himself too hot for Westminster to handle, got the idea it would be a good idea to try and implant fascism in the UK and spent the rest of his life in the wilderness. Such is the price of raging yang force in a society of chinless wankers and slack jawed Low Church proles.
I was reading soldiers’ accounts of the First World War recently.
‘Buried Dobbo today. Hard going. Ground frozen. Had to use jelly. Short ceremony. Were shelled. Dispersed. PM: overrun by Uhlans. Caught me on the kludgee. Fought way out with broken sabre. Booffy whining all the way about having had his leg shot off. Poofter. Told him so. Copped heavy fire. Dragged Booffy’s corpse to reserve trench. Reported. Threatened with court marshal for dropping rifle…’
Appreciating it’s not ‘alpha’ to piss your life away for no reason, it’s astonishing how complete Britain’s emasculation has been. Charismatic, worldly, natural leaders walked among us in number. They have disappeared without a trace. Whatever they put in our water seems to be affecting the States too.
I take issue with the idea the Scots are more alpha than the English, it’s mostly bluster.
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The Captain is spot on that any true Alpha won’t gloat – watch the link on youtube of Tom Brady’s interview for 60 minutes.
Apparently Brady had initially been rejected for a bunch of teams, and then obviously he got really successful and becoming the go to guy in the NFL.
So the interviewer asks him “do you ever feel the urge to say ‘I told you so'”? to which Brady replies “It’d be too easy to do. Why be the jerk? I don’t need to say it. Let other people say it. It sounds so much better.”
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Imagine show much class she could have shown if she had said something like:
My, God. There’s [insert name] in the audience. I had a crush on him in high school. [insert name] this song’s for you!
Then she could have invited him backstage with his significant other and chatted.
No. Girls are just wired differently. Imagine if the same thing had happened, only with the gender roles reversed.
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Captain and Morsellaux, the problem here is that you’re judging her based on a male standard. An alpha female is supposed to be vengeful, and everyone around her should live in the fear of it.
His responses are dignified, but kind of hollow in the face of the fact that he could have been in an enviable position, had he the foresight to be one of the people who encouraged her rather than ignored or discounted her.
As a female, outing him as one of those guys who took her for granted and maybe stood by while she was being picked on by others was her time to say, “There was a time when I craved your adoration. Now, I have the adoration of MILLIONS!”
No matter how he tries to paint it, he lost. He doesn’t have her bank or her fame.
It may have been more intelligent for her not to mention him (unless this is a publicity stunt to get him some fame) because now he’s in the spotlight. I wouldn’t share my air time with someone who dissed or ignored me in the past. Let them fall into the obscurity they chose.
However, what she did is very womanly, and she’s in a place where many women wish they could be: where she can lord her superior mass appeal to any woman this guy may ever get in his lifetime.
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@intp just made the point that CR might have noted in the post itself: Perry was *projecting* when she assumed that her fame would have any effect at all on a man’s attraction to her.
Tony Curtis RIP
I’d like to see a Chateau Post about the death of this UeberAlpha at age 85.
A man who didn’t act in Hollywood during WW2 but served in the Navy and saw the Japanese surrender from his ship about a mile away.
After that, he simply couldn’t keep his hands off the ladies his entire life. Marilyn Monroe adored him.
His last marriage was with a woman 42 years younger (he was 70 and she was 28 IIRC) and it lasted until his death yesterday.
Here is a line from today’s Guardian newspaper:
Curtis married six times and appeared to revel in his reputation as a carouser. “I wouldn’t be caught dead marrying a woman young enough to be my wife,” he once remarked.
It possibly helped him that he didn’t grow up with his Mom coddling him. That tends to stunt a man’s development, not help it.
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One thought that relates to both this thread, and the previous dealing with Demi Moore.
As Sam Spade points out:
“A Jessica Biel or Scarlett Johanson is attractive, sure – but those women can be found ANYWHERE.”
There is a world of wisdom here, and others have touched on it, but here’s the bottom line.
Men should be careful about idolizing celebrity women, because they are often much less attractive in reality. Not unattractive necessarily, but not the goddesses they are made out to be in their media image. Some are, in fact, pretty scary when you take away the professional make-up, hair-dressing, lighting, air-brushing, etc.
Just as we should be brutally honest about the attractivness of everyday women, it should actually go double for those who literally thrive on attention and their looks.
I have actually seen Scarlett Johanson in the flesh, for example, albeit made up for TV, and she is certainly an attractive woman, and maybe would fair okay without makeup.
However, she is not ANYTHING that you won’t find out in the great big world outside of Hollywood in terms of attractiveness, and she certainly is not the best there is to offer.
Idolizing is the same as pedestalizing in terms of the corrosive effect it has dealing with women, and men should take care not to engage in it.
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@seran ..
Men should be careful about idolizing celebrity women, because they are often much less attractive in reality//
Sometime back there was a survey wherein most of the guys answering the question who do they fantasize during sex had replied that it is celebrities!! Now you say they should not idolize them!!
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This was obviously planned. If there even was a Shane Lopes, this was just something they put into the show put appeal to the little fat girls who like Katy Perry’s music.
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who likes to fantasize about celebrities like Snooky! anybody here!! It is possible here only!
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Still laughing we are men we don’t have to be responsible for anything except having a good time and making sure we have loot.
Whatever we want to do is fine even if it is seeking attention from other men he he he
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@gunslingergregi//
You seem to be having good time!! but you cannot moiety in looted booty unless you participated in it. Sitting away in spectators’ club would not do much.
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I recently attended my 25th high school reunion with my wife who is 9 years younger than me. While there I was approached by the girl I dated all through high school and told that she had been confronted by another former female classmate and told that while in school I had cheated on her with this woman, she even had been told after which party this had occurred. She warned me that this woman was probably going to confront me as well.
In school I was a jock star and my ex gf was a cheerleader. Even though we dated for four years it was no secret to anyone including her that I fooled around, but she chose to ignore it. In fact, my errant ways served to increase her sexual adventurousness.
Towards the end of the cocktail hour, I was approached by this scorned woman. She interrupted my wife and proceeded to say that she wanted me to know that I was a complete asshole for the way I had ‘used’ her back then and that she had waited all these years to let me know that I had hurt her so badly.
I didn’t recognize her, but treading lightly I asked when this had happened. She seemed shocked and even more insulted that I didn’t remember. She named the time and place of our encounter and then I remembered what she was talking about.
I simply shrugged my shoulders and said, ” So, how have you been?”
She told me to fuck off.
My wife then chimed in and said, “You know what lady, count yourself lucky, cuz he was obviously the best lay you ever had and by the looks of you, you’re never gonna get one better.
She threw her wine on my shirt and stormed off. My wife and I had a good chuckle and proceeded to slut it up on the dance floor for the rest of the night, while the scorned one spent the night staring at me and telling everyone who would listen what I had done to her.
My ex and my wife made friends and shared stories about what a ‘naughty’ boy I am. That really didn’t sit too well with my ex’s husband, but oh well.
That whole five minutes thing……..totally true.
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@Still got it
that was an event which showed that you were high in demand and your wife feels you are a trophy for her. Nevertheless the scorned one has always missing you and your Alfa behaviour and finally when she was pissed off showed her frustration!
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“Sometime back there was a survey wherein most of the guys answering the question who do they fantasize during sex had replied that it is celebrities!! Now you say they should not idolize them!!”
Yes.
First, if you are banging women who consistently force you to think about other women to get off, you are not with or chasing women you find attractive.
Think about it.
Why are you going to spend the time and effort seducing and screwing someone who don’t want to be with, thinking about someone you damn well are not going to be with?
Would it not be better to either take care of yourself with all the time in the world to fantasize?
OR, better yet, to work on getting the kind of woman in your bed that will get you off with your eyes open?
Second,
All I am saying is that we be realistic about celebrities ACTUAL attractiveness, and not buy into the “Pretty Lies” that make-up, lighting, lens, angle and other tricks. Its good practice for when you meet a true hottie in real life, allowing you to stifle the slavering awe many guys experience we will all know turns women off. If you can keep in mind that the Hollywood sex bomb may not be all that, it might help in the field as well.
I also think it is a good trend for women in general to have to prove themselves worthy of your interest above and beyond their looks. Plenty of woman in Hollywood and out look great on the outside, and are fucking horrific inside. Woman’s attractiveness is one of their greatest strengths against men. Resist it’s awful power if you want to possess it.
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http://start.toshiba.com/news/read.php?rip_id=%3CD9II3F4G0%40news.ap.org%3E&ps=1011&page=2
Another one bites the dust.
Just stay away from western bitches.
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AM
have you guys seen this site?
http://rageagainstthemanchine.com/2009/07/05/why-i-hate-men-part-1-and-then-it-hit-me/
what a bunch of fucking nutjobs
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What an epic site. This is one of the blog host’s tweets:
My cat parties almost constantly. What can I say? Living with the @andrewwk of cats is a major privilege. 1 month ago
A delusional cat-lady who hates all men! Talk about fitting a stereotype!
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Wow, I just made the mistake of reading another section of that blog (specifically http://rageagainstthemanchine.com/about/). They pound anyone who ever so slightly disagrees with their insane viewpoints with shameful spirals of pseudo-logic and strawmen attacks. I went to an Ivy League college and a lot of women there used to make the same braindead arguments. The most sickening part is how a couple of “feminist men” are in there spewing the same psychotic garbage.
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*insert reference to what Russell Brand was doing while Katy Perry was performing*
*insert prediction of US Weekly that covers how shocked she is when he’s caught banging a set of twins with white powder all over his face on the set of whatever movie he makes next*
then the media machine will write a piece on why men cheat on such great chicks, successful…etc. And if he plays his cards right…she will suck it up and deal with it b/c it will affirm just what she showed here in calling this guy out. What a pathetic display.
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“Poor Russell. Every night he’s banging her he’s got to know she’s gonna be fantasizing about the high school football cocksman she never had.”
Dragnet’s comment is what Shawn Lopes should have told the reporters after the show.
Can you imagine Russell/Katy’s relationship surviving that kind of comment?
I’ll bet Russell dumps her skanky ass before they marry.
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That’s the best applied usage of a positive thinking mode.
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say it aint so – that guy was the epitome of cool and one of a scant few whom I admired.
Now I’m gonna have a shot of Booker’s for lunch as an impromptu toast until I can formally mourn.
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and now, i hear Greg Giraldo is in the Marble Orchard also.
HE dies, and Lindsay doesn’t.
thanks, god
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@Grampa
Brand is just using Perry to further his own interests and will discard her as soon as she has outlived her usefulness.
Perry is just some pretty-attractive crazy broad that gets passed around.
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She pines for him?
“Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned”
Just ask James Cameron! You’ll find him and his smurfs these days are trapped in a Hurt Locker.
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Am Convinced Roissy is dead and his blog hacked by a poor impersonator.
What’s worse, the commenters seem to have been replaced by a call center somewhere.
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Actually, this also illustrates a simple social principle, as applicable to high school, as to Obama fighting Limbaugh, as here: never, never, never pick a fight with someone below you in rank. Nothing to win and you may end up looking like an idiot. (Unless she was playing a part, of course. Maybe there’s money in repping those that feel the same.)
For instance, Kate Perry could instead have graciously welcomed her old high school chums in the audience … especially Shane Lopes (wait a beat, flutter eyelashes). The roar would then demonstrate that she’s now a teen godess, rather than firmly wedging her into playing the jealous invisible girl part.
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@Glengarry
“The roar would then demonstrate that she’s now a teen godess, rather than firmly wedging her into playing the jealous invisible girl part.”
You should change ‘demonstrate’ for ‘pretend’ as she is a disposable media product and I don’t give her 1 year of (in)fame.
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Brit alphas:
-Jason Statham
-Vinnie Jones
-the guy who plays “Archie” in Rocknrolla
-Toby Kemmel(also in Rocknrolla)
-Guy Ritchie(man enough to dump ol’ Madge!)
-Lemmy
-Liam Neeson
-Connery(but he’s a Scot)
-Kevin McKidd
-Ray Stevenson
-Colin Salmon
-Colm Meaney
Just to name a few…
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Back in the late ’90s went to a Fiona Apple concert and she said something that has always stuck with me: (paraphrase) ‘sometimes that homely chick is a late-bloomer and becomes a hot freak!’
Isn’t that the real story here? Katy Hudson eventually became the late blooming Kary Perry! You younger guys be sure to treat the even the mousy chicks ‘decently’ because if you see them again 5-10 years down the line they might be full blown hotties!!!!
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Well, to be fair, this is not exclusive of females. In the masterpiece “Why men are the way they are” by Warren Farrell you can read that:
“Encore! Encore!” Sixteen thousand people stomping their feet, flood the aisles. Entranced. Enamored. The man focuses the microphone before his powerful lungs. But there is no song. “Here I am, Kathy. The pimple-faced boy who sat behind you in seventh grade . . . . Here I am. Neil–who wasn’t good enough to kiss you after class . . . the class frog . . . . Well, your frog has turned into a Prince, Kathy. Kathy, wherever you are–they’re eating out of my hands, Kathy . . . eat your heart out now, Kathy . . . eat your heart out . . . wherever you are. . . . ” ;
Neil Diamond in concert, Phoenix, 1976.
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Her only asset his her tits.
http://www.egotastic.com/image?path=1010/katy-perry-german-show-01.jpg&info=Katy%20Perry%20Performs%20Teenage%20Dream%20on%20German%20Television
What a goddamn awful face.
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