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Have fun – Make fun – Invent new Kinds of Fun
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Nice hedonism quote.
Mine is become uber-menche.
“Do you know what’s waiting beyond that beach? Immortality! Take it! It’s yours!”
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Bum Gravy!
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It isn’t what you have, but what you have overcome.
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Forgive your enemies, but do not forget their names.
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Some things are more satisfying than fun.
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We must cultivate our garden.
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Let them hate me, so long as they fear me.
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“The real man wants two things: danger and play. For that reason he wants woman, as the most dangerous plaything.”
— F. Nietzsche
(Orig: “Zweierlei will der echte Mann: Gefahr und Spiel. Deshalb will er das Weib als das gefährlichste Spielzeug.”0
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“To squeeze the last ounce of fun out of life before I drop dead.”
Pretty much nails it for me.
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Denial. Anger. Bargaining. Depression. Acceptance.
Ironic that this is a model proposed by a woman, no?
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“You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind, and with all your strength.”
My motto.
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Mine is become uber-menche.
Learning to spell Übermensch correctly would be a good start.
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This too shall pass. It’s all empty.
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They’ll turn 18 eventually.
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As Theodore Roosevelt said,
“Do what you can with what you have where you are.”
My version is ‘Maximize the positive possibilities.’
There is enjoying the process, and then there is being satisfied with the result.
I seek a combination of both.
To those who tend to feel life is rather meaningless, because they have it pretty good (and are not risking much),
I say try expanding your circle of caring about others,
to where you try to make life better for some who are innocently suffering a miserable existence.
Then life will be plenty meaningful and consequential, for the rest of your life.
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“To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women.”
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So much time and so little to do. Wait a minute. Strike that. Reverse it.
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Time is a precious thing. Never waste it.
Such a great movie.
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OT, but this needs to be posted. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/relationships/8140103/Why-are-so-many-married-women-having-affairs.html
The article is purportedly about married women having affairs, but it should be called: Sluts get Married, but are Still Sluts.
It’s just as Roissy warned….
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You poor fool.
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Most talk. Some think. Few do.
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“Control your destiny, or someone else will.”
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Here’s the paradox of the Warrior’s heart:
I remember the remarkable reasoning of German biologist (of the ’40s) regarding doves and wolves.
He observes, when rival doves are confined into a small space, they peck at each other do death. That’s because they have evolved to be timid, and normally fly away to avoid conflict. So, he infers, they have not developed a sense of “mercy.”
Wolves, on the other hand, are fierce warriors. And yet, when a wolf exposes its neck to its rival during a fight, the fighting stops. He concludes, only those who know how to fight, i.e. who face the bloody consequences of a ruthless fight, develop a sense of mercy.
Kind hearts belong to warrior types, not sissies. Sissies are, paradoxically, the most sociopathic and narcissistic.
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I can’t remember where I copied it from. I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s this very blog.
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Todays propoganda teaches that you are a loser if you don’t want to have fun. The same propoganda that teaches feminism and all the shit you expose here Roissy.
Fun, fun, fun! Let us have fun! Girls just wanna have fun! Everybody have fun! My day was great I had a lot of fun! Fun, fun, fun! Today I got drunk and lost my virginity to an asshole, but it was such a fun. Fun fun fun! Bill is a clever serious and caring guy, but lets everyone go to Jacks birthday instead because he is so much fun! Fun, fun fun!
I am disgusted and dissapointed roissy that you bow to the altar of cheap fun. Just like feminists and all stupid degenerate people around. Well but you don’t have to be smart in spiritual areas, for me to learn your carnal arts.
While “fun” can probably be translated to any langueage, I know of no other languege where this word is so accented in popular as in english. And I know five of them. Is it a coinscidence that english is also the langueage of feminism?
Fun is the one of the many narcotics of todays world, the cover we put on ourselves to escape from the scary reality that we are all going to die. Subconciusly person who hasn’t resolved his relationships with Creator fears death. It would take some character to solve these relationships, but since we are encouraged to accept our stupid fat asses today and discouraged from work on ourselves we are indulging in fun instead.
Basically person who depends on fun to forget mortality is the same as a fat person who depends on food to forget his stresses.
I do not seek fun more often than I indulge in a candy and both are rare so that I do not become fat spiritually and phisically.
The closest thing that I pursue is JOY. Joy is superior to fun. So is SERENITY also. A serene, calm and joyful mind, indulging in fun but once a while is more happy than one who obsesses about fun. Such a mind fears not death and old age, such a mind doesn’t ignore realities of this world and cannot be decieved.
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I checked my ancient family coat of arms. Apparently ours is:
“YOUR MOTTO HERE”
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No one is doing anything to anybody, much less to a warrior.
– Carlos Castaneda
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“When facing a storm, become the wise man that prays to God to remove the storm within. It is the far more dangerous one.” -my personal motto.
In my humble opinion, it is quite possible to relish life and gain satisfaction from it without hedonism. The question to ask is, what do you seek? And with what level of passion and intensity is it pursued? The law of attraction (or as I like to view it, God) has a funny way of providing exactly what we ask for-for better or worse.
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Mine? Nietzsche all the way:
“Brave, unconcerned, mocking violent – thus Wisdom wants us. She is a woman and always loves only a warrior.”
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To drag my sweaty, unshaven sack across as many foreheads as possible.
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“Nemo me impune lacessit”.
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Pursue excellence in yourself and accept nothing less in your dealings with others.
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“Its not love, but its not bad.”
M. Haggard
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@Markku
I blame my translated version of Thus Spoke Zarathustra for that mistake.
Your point?
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What Ubermind said, minus the god stuff.
File this one under “fiddling while Rome burns”.
I’ve been called “anti-fun” because I don’t join in our “culture”‘s groid-centric afflete worshipping. Nuff said.
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Which is more “fun”, Black Sabbath or Soulja Boy?
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Roissy what do you make of this
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/nov/26/accused-husband-rape-jail
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In Hoc Signo Vinces
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“A conscious is what hurts when everything else feels so damn good.”
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Never stop trying to improve.
Another one:
Be not afraid.
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“On to the next one”
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“Kind hearts belong to warrior types, not sissies. Sissies are, paradoxically, the most sociopathic and narcissistic.”
Therefore negroes and jews are the biggest sissies of them all.
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Never trust a woman.
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Wear proudly the scorn of fools
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“Kind hearts belong to warrior types, not sissies. Sissies are, paradoxically, the most sociopathic and narcissistic.”
Don’t know about sociopathic, but trying to always avoid danger means you have to think about yourself a lot.
And it is true that even a cornered rat will fight.
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Communicate ’til you puke.
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Or to put it another way:
Conversations and jokes together,the mutual rendering of good services, the reading together of sweetly phrased books, the sharing of nonsense and mutual attentions.
(St. Augustine)
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To squeeze the last ounce of fun out of life before I drop dead.
What’s your definition of fun? It hinges on that whether you are right or insane.
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take da buttxex out of the butthex and run with da sex no loxzlolzing
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Be more than you appear. (Mehr sein als Scheinen.) – official motto of the National Political Institutes of Education
(Nationalpolitische Erziehungsanstalten) in the Third Reich
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epiclolz, tis right…
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Or, better, as Rambo said…
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Once more unto the breach, dear glans, once more.
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@anon 4:59–
Chicks dig psychopathic rapists.
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When you are no longer striking gold, go find another hole.
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The progressive motto: to suck the joy out of life like marrow from a bone.
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Men, not women, have opined on this problem for thousands of years.
One thing is sure, to rely on the pleasures of your senses for fulfillment in life is certain to lead to great disappointment.
What did the bard say?
What be a man, if the chief use and traffic
of his time be but to sleep and feed?
A beast, no more.
Which reminds me, I have to go memorize some more poems. The girls love them. One problem with not changing girls enough is that you have to learn more poetry to amuse them.
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“It is only with the heart that one can see clearly. What is essential is invisible to the eyes.”
Le Petit Prince
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Never stop chasing your dreams.
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“The slave of truth is a free man.”
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Honour God, lead your woman and don’t be a pussy.
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Yep.
That’s the same motto as every fat chick in America.
[Editor: Sacrificing exciting sex and love — not to mention health — isn’t fun.]
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No Fat Chicks
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Thunder, that Telegraph article is as good a summary as I’ve seen of the moral blackness at the soul of so many modern “ladies” in the West.
Instant gratification, even if it means humiliating your husband and leading your kids to a lifetime of more or less-malevolent temporary “dads”.
Shows the importance of not marrying a woman who seeks fun all the time. And if she’s been tapped ever by someone rather than you then she’s an elevated risk
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Thunear, Also, strange how women can get their friends to assist them in their affairs by acting as alibis. They should be trying to make them stop
Traditionally, one of the things that kept women from straying is the belief that they would be ostracised by their friends. Not any more
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A motto (Italian for pledge, sentence; plural: motti) is a phrase meant to formally describe the general motivation or intention of a social group or organization.
Based on what I actually do, mine would be something to do with responsibility and hard work and taking care of everyone else first.
I wish it was more like Chateau’s instead.
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Roissy,
Amen on that!
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“I want to differentiate the fun equation and solve for zero”
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Don’t try.
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“Have a good time, all the time.” That’s my philosophy, Roissy.
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The 5 Fs: Find ’em, French ’em, finger ’em , fuck ’em, forget ’em.
or
Fuck or get fucked over– he or she who dies with the most orgasms had wins.
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Thunear points out this article:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/relationships/8140103/Why-are-so-many-married-women-having-affairs.html
Don’t buy the pussy, rent it by the hour. (Think of how much Paul McCarty would’ve saved in regard to Heather Mills.) Fuck them married bitches who think they can securely fuck around.
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Avoid the “hopeless romantic” or you’ll wind up alone anyway.
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Be somebody or be somebody’s bitch.
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Fuck talent, compassion and wisdom, be a rotten bastard instead!
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meh…
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“Courage is the price that Life exacts for granting peace, The soul that knows it not, knows no release from little things.
Amelia Earhart
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Strange that this came from a woman.
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“win if you can, lose if you must, BUT ALWAYS CHEAT”
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you have one goal: be epic
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Call me stupid but I don’t really understand this:
“Money is preselection that attracts men like pussy is preselection that attracts women.”
Can someone explain this to me?
[Editor: A man with money attracts the (nonsexual) interest of other men. A man with women attracts the interest of other women. Both men are validated to the respective genders.]
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What ubermind said and,
“Live long and prosper”
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Anon-
I think he mixed up the words “men” and “women”.
The message, I think, is that men have to have money to be desired, but women just have to have normal anatomy.
If not, I dunno. These days, I just come here for the doom.
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There is no god but God and Muhammad is his messenger.
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We are here to drink beer, and to live life so well that death itself will tremble to take us.
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Wake up White man…
We’re dying. Our children will have no future if we don’t begin to advocate on their behalf. Wake up
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These aren’t my mottos, but I always thought they were funny:
“Win if you can, lose if you must, but always cheat” –One of my former roomates used to say that once in a while.
and
“Remember kids, if you ain’t cheatin’, you aint’ trying” —-Wrestler Eddie Guererro on a promo between matches when in his “heel” role.
“Just keep livin”—Actor Mathew McConaghay
“Do unto others before they do unto you”—-A very funny preacher said that once (joking, of course).
I dont have a motto……………Im playing it by ear.
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Fuckitall.
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A life without cause is a life without effect.
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To sacrifice my own happiness for the benefit of women, weather or not they sleep with me…hehe, just kidding.
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[…] My Motto « Citizen Renegade. […]
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Fun. Yeah, I can see that. Kind of like dancing to the music as the Titanic sinks. Personally, I’d find my way to a lifeboat, and maybe even save a life or two.
It’s a difference in human quality. Do you help or do you destroy things?
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I would rather be respected and hated, than loved and patronized.
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A Slave says I wish; a Hero says I will; a God says I am.
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This seems less like an exposition of the author’s maxim as an attempt to get other people to reveal theirs.
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Chelsea Handler is a perfect representative for her generation of American women.
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Very instructive that her show’s ongoing gimick involves her emasculating/patronizing a male midget.
Her “friends” are either gays, black cows, fellow whores, or self-effacing white liberals for her to emasculate and humiliate.
She’s old, and has saggy, gross arms that should be covered the F up.
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Mine is similar; I’d rather drop dead at 60 having had a fun life than live a long boring life until 80 or 100.
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For work:
“Pretty sure” is not due diligence.
For play:
Not if she can’t testify.
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haha
for the pathetic punchlines that call themselves “white nationalists” today, this should be re-written as “appear as even less than you are”
i.e., a convenient excuse to be dirty, unkempt, slovenly, and ugly
peace all
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Each chapter more interesting than the last.
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Life is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you’re gonna get.
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Almost forgot Genghis Khan’s gem:
“The greatest pleasure is to vanquish your enemies and chase them before you, to rob them of their wealth and see those dear to them bathed in an ocean of tears and blood, to ride their horses and clasp to your bosom their wives and daughters”
I’m also fond of:
“I am merely the pond that reflects the oncoming stone. I do not preach, i do not condone, i merely reflect what is coming towards me.”
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Stay hungry, stay foolish.
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Strength and Honor.
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Be indispensable.
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People like to wax poetical about happiness. I want the hard science.
We’re not designed for happiness, so we need to thwart our natures to squeeze every last drop of joy out of this life. This is a serious topic and worth spending some time over.
It is essential to Constantly refer to this stuff, because, like the truth of economic facts, it is easy to forget. This is what I have come up with myself so far.
> Have women in your life who love you deeply – lots of sex. No marriage, no kids.
Travel, go out, your game will approach effortless mastery. The more experience you get, the better you become.
> Strive to be better than others – better at your job, better off monetarily, superior in some ways
It’s just scientific fact that your happiness is largely connected to how superior you perceive yourself to be to the unwashed masses. Be a better writer or artist. Have a better physique. Be smarter, better-read, more travelled, be better with women. Be conscious, seperating yourself from the sleepwalking hamster-wheelers.
Stick to your success schedule
> Have close friends: quality over quantity.
Be proactive with the friends you want to keep: call them, instead of waiting for a call. Take the fucking initiative. Eschew the bad ones, who don’t bring value to your life. Be real and authentic with them.
> Remove parasites from your life.
Whether women or men, if they’re negative they must be cut out like a cancer. Cut them off and they’ll dry away.
> Make an effort to be healthy, fit, and attractive.
Eat primal. Exercise – always pump iron. Invest in excellent clothing.
Go to the gym three or four times a week. When you’re buying your own food (or are choosing it) buy primal: eggs, chicken & turkey, vegetables, fruit, fish. Moderate beer is probably ok, as are slight deviations when eating out and in foreign countries. Wear clothes that make you look ripped. Stay within 10-12% bodyfat: keeps you feeling great about yourself.
> Travel, explore, have adventures, create memories and connections. LOTS of outdoor activity.
Travel whenever you have time off. Do a Roosh.
Go hiking. Go on bicycle trips. It’s intoxicating and educating in a real, visceral way. Bang one girl from each nationality. Time slows down; new experiences get laid down in memory when you travel. Also don’t forget special moments of silence; lying in the grass, with your lover beside you, gazing up at the stars.
> Resist the sheep (despite society needing sheep or it will collapse)
Never let the scorn and bitterness and small-mindedness of others change you or put you off or divert you from your goal. The taboo fact is, not everyone can follow the path you’re taking. Your success in this endeavor is predicated on the (admirable) sheep-like behaviour of others. Not everyone, incidentally, has the brain or gall or wits to do this.
You don’t need to be a psychopath. But you do need to be ruthless when dealing with people who would try to control you. So, if someone tells you that you can’t do something or it’s against the rules, well, tough shit, you don’t get ahead by playing by the book
> Exploit the hell out of your talents, in work, relationships, everything
> Your work must be meaningful to you, and give you high status. Strive every day to improve. As Einstein said, if you want to live a happy life, tie it to a goal, not to people or things.
What is the ultimate mission? There must be one. Seeking “Happiness” alone is quixotic. Happiness is largely a product of a meaningful occupation or passion or mission.
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he who lzozozozlzolozlzlzzozlzoozlzoes last lzozlzzolzozozolozlzollzlzozoles best.
lzozozozlzlzolzzlozlzozlzozlzzollzozzlzolzolzlzoer is the best medicine.
no country has ever butthexed its way to prosperity — ronald reagan
the problem with socialism is that sooner or later your run out of orther people’s buttholes zlzollzlzlz — margaret thatcher
give me liberty, or give me butthex — patrick henry
An almost hysterical antagonism toward the gold standard is one issue which unites butthexers of all persuasions–bothe liberals and neooconsnyhs. They seem to sense… that gold and economic freedom are inseparable.
Alan Greenspan
In the absence of the gold standard, there is no way to protect savings from confiscation through butthex. There is no safe store of value.
Alan Greenspan
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Don’t lick the sink in a men’s room.
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a bird in hand is worth two in the bush
a bush in hand is worth two cocks in the tush lzozlzolz
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@schfifty five
Read the first line or so:
@Legion
yes.
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Last week i took a rare visit to a gay sex club. there are these 60+ year old troll guys there : obese, nasty etc. desperately chasing anything that will have them.
“Squeezing the last bit of fun out of life” can look pretty damn ugly and pathetic…
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“The best thing for a man is not to be born, and if already born, to die as soon as possible.”
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Be as sociopathic as you can – life treats sociopaths well.
If you don’t believe me, look at all the politicians and CEOs. Whenever power is up for grasp, sociopaths seize it. 😉
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Character and civilization, spoiled bitch, you’ll miss ’em when they’re gone.
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Don’t be a pussy till get the pussy.
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Legion nailed it. End thread.
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if it don’t make dollars, then it don’t make sense.
work smarter not harder
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Legion’s got it: Happiness is largely a product of a meaningful occupation or passion or mission.
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“I am prepared to meet my Maker. Whether my Maker is prepared for the great ordeal of meeting me is another matter.”
Winston Churchill
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More than conquerors.
Never less.
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Alas! is even love too weak
To unlock the heart, and let it speak?
Are even lovers powerless to reveal
To one another what indeed they feel?
I knew the mass of men conceal’d
Their thoughts, for fear that if reveal’d
They would by other men be met
With blank indifference, or with blame reproved;
I knew they lived and moved
Trick’d in disguises, alien to the rest
Of men, and alien to themselves–and yet
The same heart beats in every human breast!
Ah! well for us, if even we,
Even for a moment, can get free
Our heart, and have our lips unchain’d;
For that which seals them hath been deep-ordain’d!
Fate, which foresaw
How frivolous a baby man would be–
By what distractions he would be possess’d,
How he would pour himself in every strife,
And well-nigh change his own identity–
That it might keep from his capricious play
His genuine self, and force him to obey
Even in his own despite his being’s law,
Bade through the deep recesses of our breast
The unregarded river of our life
Pursue with indiscernible flow its way;
And that we should not see
The buried stream, and seem to be
Eddying at large in blind uncertainty,
Though driving on with it eternally.
But often, in the world’s most crowded streets,
But often, in the din of strife,
There rises an unspeakable desire
After the knowledge of our buried life;
A thirst to spend our fire and restless force
In tracking out our true, original course;
A longing to inquire
Into the mystery of this heart which beats
So wild, so deep in us–to know
Whence our lives come and where they go.
And many a man in his own breast then delves,
But deep enough, alas! none ever mines.
And we have been on many thousand lines,
And we have shown, on each, spirit and power;
But hardly have we, for one little hour,
Been on our own line, have we been ourselves–
Hardly had skill to utter one of all
The nameless feelings that course through our breast,
But they course on for ever unexpress’d.
And long we try in vain to speak and act
Our hidden self, and what we say and do
Is eloquent, is well–but ’tis not true!
And then we will no more be rack’d
With inward striving, and demand
Of all the thousand nothings of the hour
Their stupefying power;
Ah yes, and they benumb us at our call!
Yet still, from time to time, vague and forlorn,
From the soul’s subterranean depth upborne
As from an infinitely distant land,
Come airs, and floating echoes, and convey
A melancholy into all our day.
Only–but this is rare–
When a beloved hand is laid in ours,
When, jaded with the rush and glare
Of the interminable hours,
Our eyes can in another’s eyes read clear,
When our world-deafen’d ear
Is by the tones of a loved voice caress’d–
A bolt is shot back somewhere in our breast,
And a lost pulse of feeling stirs again.
The eye sinks inward, and the heart lies plain,
And what we mean, we say, and what we would, we know.
A man becomes aware of his life’s flow,
And hears its winding murmur; and he sees
The meadows where it glides, the sun, the breeze.
And there arrives a lull in the hot race
Wherein he doth for ever chase
That flying and elusive shadow, rest.
An air of coolness plays upon his face,
And an unwonted calm pervades his breast.
And then he thinks he knows
The hills where his life rose,
And the sea where it goes.
– Matthew Arnold
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Roissy –
Stopping in after a long haitus.
Nice to see you still have the touch.
I see that lozzl doushebag is still around.
Not banning him killed the comments — which is a shame, as the comments used to be almost as interesting as your posts… even when Lurker was being an ass.
Re: Chelsea Handler.
She can occasionaly can be funny, but has gotten the attention and success she has because she is (was) young and attractive.
The thing with her is she is not funny in a feminine way… give her 20 years and she’ll be Joy Behar — nasty and joyless.
I’d be interested in a Roissy analysis of women like her.
B.
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Sociopaths? Get them fucked up and their act falls apart completely. They turn into confused children. Give them a dose of real FEAR and you get to listen to them whimper and beg like gut-shot piglets.
And no matter what you do to them, you don’t feel bad…
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When you get them alone, push hard for the pussy close. On the unlikely chance they demur, they will at least respect you enough to welcome your next go at them.
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Everything Legion described builds your inner game.
I got shit talked on the insecurity post for making the argument that inner game achieves the end goal more effectively and is more lasting than being some cornball who spends half his life looking for female insecurities.
Being and living like a superior man means your whole life is one extended Neg towards everything, women, men, the whole fucking world. The minions on here who don’t understand this will hem and haw, but that comes from FEAR plain and simple. Live like a superior man and you Game the whole fucking universe. DEAL.
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Roissy,
You should read the writer Charles Willeford. Start with “The Shark Infested Custard.”
Then read “Something About a Soldier.”
The greatest American writer.–
Disgusting that he’s almost unknown.
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Family, sex, money.
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As Socrates is rumored to have said, “I saw ‘The Dirty Dozen’ once….
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Shitty motto. Neither fun nor lifespan are fundamentally limited. I plan on keeping the party going literally forever, and making each moment better than the last, for myself and for everyone else who wants it.
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So what? It’s also empty that it’s empty. Double negative.
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Gramps
Complete and utter bullshit nonsense. Have you ever spent time in a jail where those around you don’t speak your language? I assure you, without pleasures of the senses you will soon go nuts.
The trick to hedonism is to do it well, which means you need moderation.
Any fool knows this.
Limiting the senses can also be hedonistic, but again, only in moderation.
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Motto: seek abundance
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Too meaningful, for my tastes. Meaning is great, in moderation. A little nihilism mixed into your motivation eases the pains and lessens your hopes. We need a bit of “whatever”, and “who cares” mixed in with our desires. A meaningful life? Whatever.
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You sound like a man who hasn’t come to terms with impermanence.
Look up “tipping point”. Look up entropy. You want to save the world? You have a big ego, my friend. You can’t save the world.
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Only a woman would take that attitude.
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I don’t understand your point, benjack. Don’t get old?
Keeping fit woud obviously allow you to squeeze more fun out of life.
If your point was to keep your dignity rather than have fun, then you are a puppet to other peoples opinion. What you look like to others=dignity=the viewpoint of a beta social follower.
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Legion
Close to a perfect comment. Well thought out and center of the target.
You are right that the broad concept of seeking happiness requires a how to manual, however once you have that manual, it’s acceptable shorthand for referring to the details with the title.
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Meaning is only one aspect of happiness. Frivolity is happy too.
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Julian
If you are referring to my remarks then your narrative of what we were discussing doesn’t match mine.
I’m pro inner game, as are you. You are anti outer game, for moral reasons.
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Bring my fellow man unto a world of immortality and realized imagination. Through logic and the power known as myself, push towards my ideal of perfection in everything I do.
Also:
“Don’t believe in me, don’t believe in you, believe in the me that believes in you!”
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Mine is:
You are an oak tree. You will not be manipulated by crying, yelling, lying, head games, sexual withdrawal, jealousy ploys, pity plays, shit tests, hot/cold/hot/cold, disappearing acts, or guilt trips. She will rain and thunder all around you and you will shelter her until her storm passes. She will not drag you into her chaos or uproot you. When you have mastery over yourself, you will have mastery over her.
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Dalrock, being an oak tree is good in some circumstances. Being a wolverine is sometimes more appropriate.
Being immovable and unshakeable is not a strategy for success.
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What do you mean with “Being a wolverine”? I have seen advice about becoming like an oak tree, others to be like water, could someone elaborate more on these? Is it a maxim or depends on the context (sometimes you are a tree, others you are water)?
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You can’t apply a single strategy to all situations. Sometimes y you have to be a fierce motherfucker. Sometimes you have to suckle on nipples and feel all warm and cozy. Sometime you react, sometimes you proact, sometimes you do nothing.
This entire school of be immovable and aloof is simply stupid. It’s a dead end philosophy.
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Put it this way; your woman is having a little freakout. Sometimes you ignore her, sometimes you slap her down.
You can’t always do either, and there is a rainbow of other options.
Being an oak is only one option, sometimes used. It’s not an all purpose wrestling move.
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You can’t even apply a single strategy to similar situations.
Do you always make the same ping pong serve?
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vincere est totum
“to win is everything”
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Julian,
With a lot of folks, telling them to practice inner game alone is putting the cart before the horse. Their whole problem with women is a lack of confidence. Teach them outer game and they learn a little confidence. They pick up some girls and they learn a little more. Eventually they internalize their game and become true alphas.
Trouble with inner game based approaches is that they require for many a full personality change This can take a long time before results can be seen with girls.
And if you don’t want to use female insecurities to your advantage, then you’re facing a life sentence of betadom. In the battle of the sexes, you must carry your spear
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Mundus vult decipi
The world wishes to be deceived. Certainly women do
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Be humble and sincere to capture the things in life that matter the most.
And my favourite………
The greatest conversations in life start with a hello and a true smile.
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I AM MY OWN GOD.
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To me, the perfect worldview would be a fusion of the philosophy of Dr. William Luther Pierce with that of Dr. Anton Szandor LeVay. For me, the Epicurean spirit and the Faustian spirit fit together well and this combination propels one toward greatness.
I find that very very few can grasp, accept, and practice such a way of perceiving and dealing with the world and themselves. Even most of those who do “get it” don’t dare publicly admit it or live it, for fear of very clearing setting themselves apart from the multitudes. So be it.
Perhaps, you just have to have the right stuff in you, and that stuff is not present in the vast majority of “humanity”.
They feel the need to live as if by the direction and laws of external deities…deities that men much like them first imagined into being. But I believe the future truly lies (as it always has) in the hands of those few who can truly know in their heart “I am my own God”, and live accordingly.
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RV, don’t get fooled by a statistical sampling effect. You hear about the successful sociopaths but most of them aren’t.
Also, most people, unlike sociopaths, are wired to obtain some of their happiness from relationships with other people, so if you’re not cut out to be a sociopath it won’t maximize your happiness.
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@Julian :
“Being and living like a superior man means your whole life is one extended Neg towards everything, women, men, the whole fucking world. The minions on here who don’t understand this will hem and haw, but that comes from FEAR plain and simple. Live like a superior man and you Game the whole fucking universe. DEAL.”
Nicely put. I have a feeling that many guys who see themselves as successful alphas, have it in fact wrong because they have let themselves become slaves to The Pussy ( and deep down shitting the pants about loosing it one day ), instead of just getting pussy among other things as a great side effect of being a true cosmic gangsta’ on the prowl.
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Alea iacta est.
It’s what Caesar said when he crossed the Rubicon, quoting from a favorite Greek author supposedly.
It means that “the die is cast.” You make a decision and live with the consequences. We’re all ultimately dead men anyways, so fuck it.
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“Today is a good day to die.” (Klingon)
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“I AM MY OWN GOD.”
lol don’t belittle yourself, go a step ahead,
I am God.
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Legion
“But you do need to be ruthless when dealing with people who would try to control you. So, if someone tells you that you can’t do something or it’s against the rules, well, tough shit, you don’t get ahead by playing by the book.”
My point exactly. And, thanks for boiling down so much of what I’ve believed for years in the rest of your post.
The fact is, anyone and everyone will try to control you in some way, so, unless you can control yourself, they will succeed in doing so.
Make your passion your mission and be the wolf guarding the sheep.
“XV. Maintain your state control
You are an oak tree. You will not be manipulated by crying, yelling, lying, head games, sexual withdrawal, jealousy ploys, pity plays, shit tests, hot/cold/hot/cold, disappearing acts, or guilt trips. She will rain and thunder all around you and you will shelter her until her storm passes. She will not drag you into her chaos or uproot you. When you have mastery over yourself, you will have mastery over her.”
But even further – when you have mastery over yourself, you will have mastery over nearly everything in your life.
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Lost and Julian, what’s so superior about getting something as a side effect, as opposed to getting something by consciously going after it?
You guys and your fucking hamster wheels. Hating on game, spitting out bullshit “reasons”.
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namae nanka,
There’s a good video on YT somebody put together for 46&2 that explains the lyrics in terms of Jungian psychology. Overcoming one’s “shadow”, etc.
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Next we’ll be hearing from Benjack, another member of the game hater club, about how game is undignified.
Your kind has an unconscious murky hate that spews through any weak straw that you can grab your mucky little hands on.
Why do you hate game? Julian hates it because “he just thinks there is a better way to live.” Benjack hates it because it is undignified.
Could you be any more cloudy? Nothing but obscuration. You hate it because you hate successful males, and because you are uncomfortable with frank sex talk.
Friggin betas and their backwards rationalizations.
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“But even further – when you have mastery over yourself, you will have mastery over nearly everything in your life.”
Being an oak tree is hardly mastery. It is one tiny rudimentory portion of a small piece of the first step of mastery.
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Lost
Translation: I have a low libido and I want to shame high libido men out of being my direct competition for attractive women.
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“what’s so superior about getting something as a side effect, as opposed to getting something by consciously going after it?”
I don’t know, tryhard spambot, why might that be?
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You won’t find any pimp who’se an oak tree.
You won’t find anyone good with women who couldn’t be a good pimp.
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Desidirus, joining the cloudy say nothing group. Another obscurator, raining hatorade.
Thunder on, idiot.
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When I hear people talk about “aloof game”, or being non-reactive, I get the feeling they are trying to cure their social ineptness by being more aspergy.
Spock wannabees.
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polymath
Also, most people, unlike sociopaths, are wired to obtain some of their happiness from relationships with other people, so if you’re not cut out to be a sociopath it won’t maximize your happiness.
eh
even sociopaths still derive a great deal of satisfaction from interpersonal relationships; the only caveat is that they usually do so when the other person in the relationship functions more as an object than as a person.
happily enough, there’s definitely a surplus of other people who are quite happy to be said objects.
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Aloofness game only works if you’re already attractive to women. Telling Lionel Schnerdling the shy accountant to act aloof isn’t going to help him.
That’s why the whole inner game thing is flawed for folks who aren’t alphas or nascent alphas already.
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x splat,
when did i ever say i “hate” game ? never.
please cite where i said i “hated” game?
in the past i’ve liked your insight x, mainly because i thought you had a rational non bs approach but lately your bitterness has been rising to indefensible levels.
im not the only one either. look at how many times you have been quoted and refuted in this thread.
take note.
of course you will spew and sputter like an old car that is trying to reassert itself. btw im not taunting you.
i actually think that we have some similar views but please stop saying things about me that are patently false.
regardless, this blog is now officially meta.
which is beautiful in my opinion.
it was the final station on the path.
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xsplat
“Being an oak tree is hardly mastery. It is one tiny rudimentory portion of a small piece of the first step of mastery.”
Agreed, “being an Oak Tree” is hardly mastery, but it’s also hardly rudimentary. At the risk of contradicting myself, “mastery” is somewhat of an illusion anyway. It would suggest you have nothing more to learn, though I did try to qualify myself by saying “nearly”.
Still, it takes a certain amount of life experience with, and learning from, dealing with manipulation and other experiences, to be an “Oak Tree”. It’s well known that these manipulative behaviors are not exclusive to females or our private lives.
Depending on the individual, it may be overkill to relegate this kind of life experience to a rudimentary portion of a small piece of a first step.
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imagine if we were forced to show our faces and bodies when we wrote comments here ? talk about a game changer.
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narciso,
What you said
even sociopaths still derive a great deal of satisfaction from interpersonal relationships; the only caveat is that they usually do so when the other person in the relationship functions more as an object than as a person.
happily enough, there’s definitely a surplus of other people who are quite happy to be said objects.
is true, but it doesn’t invalidate my point
if you’re not cut out to be a sociopath it won’t maximize your happiness
because normal people are constituted to derive more happiness from mutual relationships than from mercenary or manipulative and one-sided ones.
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@xsplat :
Lost
“Nicely put. I have a feeling that many guys who see themselves as successful alphas, have it in fact wrong because they have let themselves become slaves to The Pussy ( and deep down shitting the pants about loosing it one day ), instead of just getting pussy among other things as a great side effect of being a true cosmic gangsta’ on the prowl.
Translation: I have a low libido and I want to shame high libido men out of being my direct competition for attractive women.
Translation: I have a low libido and I want to shame high libido men out of being my direct competition for attractive women.”
Lol, thanks Captain Freud, if I have a low libido, then I don’t really give a shit about the competition from high libido men, do I ?
Wait, to prove to myself the power of my drive I even decided that I will do my sister ( solid 8 ) the next weekedend. Thrice ! That’s how gargantuic my libido is, it doesn’t care for judeochristian morals and beats the crap out of your libido. You wanna top that ?
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Trust everybody with something , trust noone with everything.
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xsplat
Good points. Alot of guys hate on game; they don’t know any better.
They’ve been brainwashed on the “the stars will align and you’ll meet your perfect soulmate” mythology; its an integral part of their psyche- it’s the equivelent of religious doctrine in their minds- they automatically and subconsciously obey without thought; the cultural zeitgeist has programmed them so that they automatically expirence emotional revulsion towards actions that run contrary to the “passively await your soulmate” programming. Forethought and strategizing, in the romantic world, are the emotional equivelent to sins to them. (And serve largely the same purpose- namely to give power and control to other people- whether women or those with power already).
To draw an analogy- these men (if you really want to call them that) have been told, since they were children, that they way that you should win a game of chess is by randomly moving pieces. Lose alot of games? Well then obviously you weren’t playing against the person you were “destined” to win against.
They’re worse then oblivious when it comes to realizing that that forethought and strategy would win them many more games against many more players then blindly moving moving pieces around. Even worse is that they can’t seem to realize that winning, and the process of winning by seeing your strategies bear fruit, is far more fun then constantly losing (or occassionally winning) by random chance.
Or- to get back to Chateau’s original point:
Game is the juicer to the orange of life. Wealth is the ice. Health is the glass.
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Too many men look for rules for being Alpha- and then blindly follow them. They don’t realize that all actions and attitude require context.
Most of the time a Silverback is aloof- life is good and small things don’t bother him.
Aloof is great- provided the right context.
Slap a silverback in the face- he wouldn’t be aloof, he’d be in a violent rage.
Violent rage is great- provided the right context.
Undertaking to reprogram your subconscious to “alphaness” is far more useful then memorizing a bunch of rules. Once your mind is aligned with the alpha essence your emotional impulses will push you into the alpha decision regardless of what context you find yourself in.
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Don’t confuse Alpha with sociopath.
Sociopath is, by definition, someone who is incapable of emotional empathy; you can be a Sociopath and still be a beta and a loser.
An Alpha (by men’s standards) is one willing to look after his own selfish interests even if they conflict with someone elses.
You can be Alpha and selfish- while still feeling pity for the fools whose throats you slit on the way to the top.
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Avoid the everlasting fire of hell.
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“Undertaking to reprogram your subconscious to “alphaness” ”
I suppose it may be different for each person, but how do you think you do that?
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Hi Xsplat,
I was just being a smartass. I was quoting Roissy’s commandment 15 in his 16 commandments of poon: http://roissy.wordpress.com/the-sixteen-commandments-of-poon/
I still think it is some of his best writing though.
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Bitch better have my money!
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NYC
Creative and insightful definition. I’m liking.
Also, interesting ideas about why people hate on game. Cognitive dissonance between the cultural programing of passively stumbling into romance and the training of knowing what you want and actively getting it by all means possible.
I think it’s a bit more than that. There is a sexual hangup aspect, where sex is somehow not a dignified goal, and there is also a deeply beta internalization that manipulating the will of others is seen as disrespectful.
And Julian, I appreciate that you’ve appreciated some of my comments in the past. I’ve been writing for three years here, and those who’ve read enough of my comments are aware of my style of occasionally being undiplomatic and immoderate, to the point of appearing antisocial. That seems to be part of my insight process – cutting through the bullshit with a bloody chainsaw, no apologies for the severed heads. I’m not asking you to like it, and I don’t much care if you do or don’t. Very few people here don’t get my chainsaw treatment from time to time.
You say you are not anti game, but I see that you are. You think internal game is in moral opposition to external game. You dislike social manipulation. Anti game.
And NYC, I agree with your implied idea that this whole trust in the will of God meme is deeply beta. Personally I find it disgustingly passive and irresponsible. I can understand that people can be wary of getting what they want – isn’t that the theme of 50% of childrens cartoon shows and sit-coms? If you get what you want it will bite you in the ass in the end? You’d think people would notice the other option of gradually refining your inner compass of want to a genuine true north, and using to successfully steer your life. But no, people don’t want to be responsible for having a rudder. They leave the big decisions up to fate and their other managers and superiors.
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Pro
Julian and others here have talked about following excellence and personal passion to achieve an inner confidence as well as outward superiority.
That is PART of maintaining an alpha frame. The authority of excellence. The other is maintaining a frame of selfishness, assuming that your personal authority is the authority. And doing so successfully. Being a manager over others.
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Dalrock, ya, that was a good piece. I was amazed at the consistency of quality during that period of R’s writing.
I wonder if it’s common to only have bouts of good writing. As far as I know quality creative writing of music or anything can’t be maintained indefinitely. We get our windows of inspiration, after which there is a drop off.
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For my sons to respect me as much as I respect my father.
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btmrr8
NYC
These two ideas fit well together. Alpha instincts are emotionally driven and are a result of social experience. One aspect of successful social manipulation is blatantly ignoring people.
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Luck favors the bold. So far I have found out that is true.
Do the things that you like because you like them, not just for dealing with your shit.
Pussy isn’t that important. Really.
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Audentes fortuna juvat
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Rape, pillage, plunder. Have breakfast.
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“Obedience is the sign of the degenerate. Disobedience the mark of the hero.”
“There is nothing impossible to him who will try.”
The last quote is from Alexander the Great. One of the manliest homos of all time.
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Hey Roissy, years from now as you’re squeezing the last ounce of fun out of life before you drop dead, you ought to hum this song wiht no small amount of satisfaction:
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Read and run.
Btw how is everyone else getting their black face off from black friday, I used a sharpie and can’t get it off now. I dont want to look silly when I go to the office tomorrow, thanks fellas
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@Xsplat. It’s beta to come across like you got something to prove.
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Sleeping – no it’s not.
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‘We’re not here for a long time, we’re here for a good time!’
And as the years roll by, …
‘You’re only as old as the woman you feel.’
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Legion wrote:
> Have women in your life who love you deeply – lots of sex. No marriage, no kids.
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Have to utterly disagree with the ‘no kids’ thing. Kids are the whole damn purpose of life. They bring deep meaning to you, ready or not.
BTW, the selfish feminists (male and female) are sabotaging Western society’s existence away with its anti-child laws (in effect).
Your list of self improvement advice is all for the same end of attracting a better mate for … having children.
By not having kids you are going against all our hardwiring.
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It’s the perfect motto for the ignoble and the nihilists. I’m neither.
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To squeeze the last ounce of fun out of life before I drop dead.
It’s not a bad motto if you can handle yourself, the problem is a lot of people who live by squeezing the juice from life like an orange tend to end up like empty, gutted shells from forcing out all the juice too soon.
– Insight into reality
– Self determination
– Women
– Comfortable life
– Meaningful existence
Those are the basic five golden nuggets of Having a Good Time.
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Bring the movies.
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Bitch, please.
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Having kids is great, as long as they’re yours…
OT: Can we ban the expression “hating on…”?
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The Pill, is a bitter pill
http://nymag.com/news/features/69789/index2.html
“It changed the narrative of women’s lives, so that it was much easier to put off having children until all the fun had been had..”
Dumped many a 30yo when she said above in so many words: “I’ve had my fun….” chilling words
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Deserve got nuthin’ to do with it.
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Katana –
“By not having kids you are going against all our hardwiring”
So what? Fuck our hardwiring. We’re going against our ultimate raison detre when we slap a condom on.
That said, I should have qualified the “no kids” thing. For some people, kids bring immense pleasure and fulfilment etc (though I think the net reward is exaggerated).
They’re just not for me, and I should have made that clear.
If you want kid (shrieking shit dispensers and bundles of joy that they are!) then of course go for it.
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One of these links must work…
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D’oh!
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Too much of anything will burn you out eventually. You are only human.
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@Carl Sagan The last quote is from Alexander the Great. One of the manliest homos of all time.
Ancient homosexuality is not comparible to modern homosexuality (not that I advocate either one). Traditional homos (if you can call it that) believed in the superiority of and dominance of the male race as a excuse.
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yep
i dont make mottos – for they’ll all end up in the ‘Conjured Gravitas’ File.
We’ll all be sooo fixated on the importance…when some no0b mistakenly tops this thread in 2037.
And nobody still gives 3 shits
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ah, the requisite quote of gravity…..from a 20 year old cowboy movie.
Lessons
to live
by
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geez – my 2 bestest tricks…
You must never get laid, pal
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Legion
“Fuck our hardwiring.” “If you want kid (shrieking shit dispensers and bundles of joy that they are!) then of course go for it. ”
… beginning to think we were separated at birth.
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“geez – my 2 bestest tricks…
You must never get laid, pal”
We weren’t talking about tricks, we were talking about life mottos, dimwit.
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We are here to laugh at the odds and live our lives so well that death will tremble to take us.
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You’re pretty prickly
for a non-ignoble
anti-nihilist
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Be as sociopathic as you can – life treats sociopaths well.
If you don’t believe me, look at all the politicians and CEOs. Whenever power is up for grasp, sociopaths seize it. 😉And when a person, who is not a sociopath, is GIVEN his power, he will become one.
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For GX1080 “Pussy isn’t that important to me. Really.”
And for xsplat “Sex is hugely important, to me Really.”
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Off topic reminder of the weird and hidden mysteries of the female mind. My frigid hot girlfriend was thumbing through my cellphone while I was in the shower, and read messages from my other main girl. “Daddy, I love you and miss you, can I visit tomorrow?” “Daddy, I miss you fucking me” etc.
I let her have her little cry while I went to the gym, after which we had the best sex yet. Still pretty lousy, relative to great sex, but the best yet. We went out to replace her lost USB filled with treasured pictures of the two of us, and grabbed dinner. She held my hand the whole time. And then more sex.
Actually that girl is not my girlfriend. Originally she was a virgin holding out for marriage, and I planned to marry her, but I’ve since broken up with her. She hasn’t broken up with me though, so that book of man rules that we all get insists that I have to keep fucking her, if fucking her is on my terms. No choice.
Point is – girls don’t break up with you for having more than one lover. Not right away once already bonded – you can keep them in your orbit for nearly as long as you’d want to anyway, and for nearly as long as you could if you were not seeing other girls.
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I seek not beyond death. It may be the blackness averred by the Nemedian skeptics, or Crom’s realm of ice and cloud, or the snowy plains and vaulted halls of the Nordheimer’s Valhalla. I know not, nor do I care. Let me live deep while I live; let me know the rich juices of red meat and stinging wine on my palate, the hot embrace of white arms, the mad exultation of battle when the blue blades flame and crimson, and I am content. Let teachers and priests and philosophers brood over questions of reality and illusion. I know this: if life is illusion, then I am no less an illusion, and being thus, the illusion is real to me. I live, I burn with life, I love, I slay, and am content.
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“In this big game that we play, life, it’s not what you hope for, not what you deserve, it’s what you take.”
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Aiein aristeuein, as the Iliad says – always to excel.
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@xsplat
“Women would rather share a successful Man than be saddled with a faithful loser.”
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Shit happens!
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‘Cause it ain’t gonna suck itself, babe!
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If there’s one thing I’ve learned this last year, it’s that fulfillment and purpose trump fun and pleasure 10 times out of 10.
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“Better to reign in hell than serve in heaven.”
~John Milton “Paradise Lost”
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