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Reader Mailbag: True Grit Edition

January 10, 2011 by CH

Email #1 is telegrammed from “Assrange”:

What are alpha and beta fetishes?

I guess the most alpha fetish is rape or FFM gangang and the most beta fetish – being a woman’s toilet or cuckolding.

What is your say?

That rape should be a most despised intrusion under law and custom does not relegate it to the outer hells of our less desirable scoundrels. The average woman’s mind is teeming with the dirty detritus of rape fantasies, such fantasies the ultimate manifestation of their most female desire to submit wholly and unconditionally to a strong man with a will to match. Alpha men, for their part, are happy to oblige, but spare no fetish for the abomination. That is solely the reserve of the morally undeveloped sex and the diseased of mind.

In order of decreasing alpha coondoggery and increasing omega degeneracy, herewith a list of male sexual perversions:

FFFFFFFFFFFFM with hidden video recorder, doggy style, asses lined up in a row like ducks at a shooting gallery.
FFFFFFFFFFFFM with lights on.
Standard FFM.
Kinky FM wherein the lady is hogtied and ballgagged.
Public sexual congress.
FM while watching the vile pornography.
FM while she’s beholden to her womanly discharge.
Sitting in a corner and stroking balefully while watching FF scissor.
Sitting in a corner and stroking feverishly while watching F get nailed by M.
Sitting in a corner and stroking feverishly while watching F get nailed by BM.
Any of the bowel evacuation perversions, including but not limited to the Cleveland Steamer, the Pinched Julep, and the Choctaw Country Cornbread Cow Plop.
Animal intimacy.

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Email #2 comes by way of a charming filly from the old country:

I’m a Hungarian-Romanian woman. I pretty much enjoy your blog because it has thaught me a lot about attraction and dating sociology. I want to evolve in every possible way and I believe you can help me answer some questions.

You’re saying that the alpha-monster should never get married, he has all the women he wants in a heart-beat. Who is his female counterpart? Is the alpha woman really allowed to change partners that often? Doesn’t it pull her in the slut category (which is to be avoided? – according to some other theorems of yours). And what is next up? Does a future of alpha-partnerships (or bangs) lead to the extinction of the human race (from what I see, having children is beta) ?

Two.  From my observations, one is able to have magnificent sex via perception altering. I know a case (alpha, slightly autistic guy + fat girl) where he strongly believed that the girl is hot (she was transmitting him great states of mind), they had 10-sex and eventually the girl became hot (physically), or better, BMI-altering sex. I believe post-alpha is the abillity to change anyone at will.

That’s all…for today.

For today? I have a mind to administer a lashing to your bare bottom for confronting my decency with your coyness, you gypsy temptress.

But I am in an inculcating mood. The “alpha monster”, or what we here in these parts call the rooster, has his psychological counterpart in the alpha hyena, the head of her cackling demon pack of predatory African savannah carnivores. But unlike that mangy beast, she is first and foremost an exquisite example of beauty, unparalleled in three counties’ range, and of such refined features that she drives even the most trailworn men to fits of romantic elegy.

She is certainly able to have as many male lovers as she can accommodate, mentally and physically, without rupturing an unseemly fissure in her nethers and risking the foul humours. But the alpha female does not have many partners, not nearly enough to qualify as a slut, because the very beauty that gives her the option to spread herself wide with the greatest number of suitors also enamors her with a honed prejudicial instinct, which she uses to great effect to make herself as unavailable as possible until a man of the highest quality courts her with the baubles and trinkets of a thousand kings.

It should be noted that the modern alpha female has chosen the whiskey and dance at the expense of brood, and the consequences for the people should be obvious. She spreads herself around a little more today than perhaps she did in yore, and our generations grow stupider and uglier under the misuse of the prophylactic by the lower classes.

Your point number two is absurd on its face, and requires no further discrediting but for that which I am generously inclined to offer in this forum. “Perception altering” is just another fancy university term of of art for saying a man with a bad hand has got to fold or bluff like he’s holding a pair of Aces. A man is as loathe to admit he’s fornicating with a hatchet-faced witch as he is to admit he can’t shoot a barn door at ten paces.

Now there is something to the idea that a blessed man in the way of women can exert a favorable influence upon his lovers, inasmuch as those women will feel the competitive fire from fairer ladies and perform judiciously to please him. But that is a risk I would not be willing to take with a fat woman, whose fat is only likely to grow as she succumbs to years of habit to reach for the bread and cheese in moments of self-doubt and despair.

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Email #3 hails from “LW”:

I wanted to first thank you for dropping incredible amounts knowledge on this blog. I have learned quite a bit and think that I can outgrow my betadom soon. I wanted to run a scenario by you that you probably hear often, and see how you might approach it.

In High School, I was  pretty socially awkward. I wasn’t an outcast by any means, but I definitely wasn’t one of the popular kids.

Like most kids in my situation, I had a crush on a girl who I thought at the time was “out of my league”. She even tried to talk to me at one point in class, but I was way too awkward to maintain any form of conversation.

Now, I am in a much better stage in life; I have friends, a social life, and actually get laid on occasion. I am friends w/ this girl on Facebook, and I can tell that we are in a similar place on the dating market. She likes a lot of the same shit I do, is single, and is still very cute.

My question is, how do I initiate some sort of conversation with her without coming off as a total fucking stalker? Is this even possible? Or should I just wait for our next HS reunion?

Please let me know what you think. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

LW

Why don’t you have a swig of this devil water, young man. It’ll help steady your nerves as the weight of the wisdom I am about to indulge you with overworks your senses.

First, ignore your past mistakes. She doesn’t remember as much as you fear she does, and what she does remember will only serve to your advantage when the stark juxtaposition of your present state of mind clashes with her meager prejudice. Also, forget that she enjoys the same recreational pleasures as you; women do not respond in a desirous way to men with similar hobbies, whom they more often than not regard on the same level as charming pets. Shared interests only become important in a relationship of some strength and fortitude, which should never be the case until three months in the least have passed.

I would never tell you to wait for anything. Waiting is the mindset of — to use the modern parlance — the beta. The alpha goes for what he wants, when he wants it. Of course, he does so in a calculating fashion designed to maximize the benefit which will accrue to him.

You treat this girl like any hot girl whose virtue you want to immoderately violate. Scatter your profile with photos of you in poses of adventure, in foreign lands, peering at an unseen object offstage, and surrounded by nubile young ladies. Leave a comment to one of her pics, leavened with the insertion of a neg (contextually dependent, of course). Or start up a chat with her when she’s online, as you would any girl. Always be sure to end the chat first, so that she is stunned out of her self-absorption which is the wont of her mercurial gender.

Other than that, I can’t tell you much, because I am of the mind that Facebook is an emasculating nutgrinder which purpose suits the distaff sex completely and at the expense of the stripping away of your natural male advantage of imposing, virile body language and inscrutable ponderings.

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  1. on January 10, 2011 at 1:06 pm fmudd

    Sharply different writing style here.

    Either a different writer or you are taking a new approach.

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  2. on January 10, 2011 at 1:10 pm askjoe

    Letter #2 reminds me of the older comparison of female versus male 10’s. The ignorance of the question is that high value women don’t use their options to rut with male war pigs, but to secure the highest status value male they can snatch.

    Think of Iman and David Bowie, probably one of the few actual 10-10 pairings the world’s seen.

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  3. on January 10, 2011 at 1:10 pm fmudd

    And 100% agree on Facebook. I would trade time online for day game.

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  4. on January 10, 2011 at 1:17 pm Philly Beer Guy

    Who the hell is writing this bilge?

    Where’s Roissy?

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  5. on January 10, 2011 at 1:34 pm The Specimen

    My guess is that he was trying to sound like one of the characters in ‘True Grit’. The little girl or LeBeouf perhaps? I agree the Romanian woman’s thing about perception altering sex is bs. Autistic Alpha? Doesn’t exist. Alpha males are invariably charismatic, and understand what makes people tick. Even the most sociopathic world leaders through history had an exceptional intuitive understanding of psychology, something autistic people by definition don’t have. The autistic alpha she’s talking about is really just some nerd who made a lot of money, but still couldn’t get laid in a whorehouse with a fist full of $20’s.

    To me an alpha female is a woman who can get commitment out of the men that other women want, though he is loathe to give it. The type of woman that betas won’t even approach because they don’t think they’d be able to handle her.

    Facebook is dead as a doornail. They’ve had a good run, but they’re already going out of style. The waning popularity hasn’t hit the masses yet, but it will in the next couple of years. Look for sites like Reddit, Digg, Tmblr, and such to fill the void. The people buying shares of Goldman’s investment are going to lose their shirts if they hold too long. Facebook is the new AOL.

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  6. on January 10, 2011 at 1:37 pm Science

    “Sharply different writing style here.”

    its the true grit edition ya dern fool

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  7. on January 10, 2011 at 1:38 pm Heathcliff

    Emailer #3 is doomed to failure due because he overvalues the chick. He lost his frame long ago. The Alpha thing to do is to move on to greener pastures.

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  8. on January 10, 2011 at 1:42 pm fmudd

    @Science

    That one flew over me. I never seen that movie before.

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  9. on January 10, 2011 at 1:49 pm Anonymouss

    Cuckold play is definitely beta if not omega… and is just a sign of being warped and having no self-respect. (A normal guy would fight some douche trying to f*ck his wife, not watch him make her cum while blowing a big-dick load in her bareback.)

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  10. on January 10, 2011 at 2:04 pm Firepower

    Email #2 comes by way of a charming filly from the old country:

    I’m a Hungarian-Romanian woman.

    biktopia’s writing always drifts off towards the end. Something to do with EE languages.

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  11. on January 10, 2011 at 2:35 pm Danny Vermin

    “FFFFFFFFFFFFM with hidden video recorder, doggy style, asses lined up in a row like ducks at a shooting gallery.”

    Hidden?

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  12. on January 10, 2011 at 2:40 pm Firepower

    This begs the question:
    Is it more alpha to FFFFFFM in a porno – or in private?

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  13. on January 10, 2011 at 2:59 pm DJ

    Surely getting a blumpkin is Alpha, no? I mean, it involves poop, but you are the pooper, and she’s suckin’ yer dick while you’re doing it.

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  14. on January 10, 2011 at 3:10 pm VeteransAbroad

    The film is worth it even if only for the song that runs during the credits:

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  15. on January 10, 2011 at 3:15 pm Dat_Truth_Hurts

    Man you need to stick with politics, all these posts about game are sooo gay.

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  16. on January 10, 2011 at 3:19 pm Good Luck Chuck

    Anonymouss-

    Cuckold play is definitely beta if not omega… and is just a sign of being warped and having no self-respect. (A normal guy would fight some douche trying to f*ck his wife, not watch him make her cum while blowing a big-dick load in her bareback.)

    In the truest evolutionary sense a high value male would be unwilling to share his wife with another man, but I have a group of VERY alpha friends who gladly share their women.

    How can this be?

    The leader of this group is a brash, outspoken, sleeved out biker who runs a successful promotions company. His wife has a masters degree and works in the medical field.

    I know you’re thinking “That explains it! You must be talking about a middle aged couple with declining SMV!”. But you couldn’t be more wrong. Husband is late 20’s, and wife is mid 20’s. Wife is thin and attractive. Hubby could replace wife in .002 seconds with his status and swagger.

    I recently got pulled into the periphery of this “swinging renaissance”. Apparently this is no longer the exclusive territory of balding 45 year old men and their fat wives.

    Hanging out with my buddy and his wife during the last few months has been quite an experience. I’m almost 40 (although I can pass for early 30’s) and the last time I went out with them I ended up in the back seat with my buddy’s wife and her 20 year old bisexual friend. A couple of months before that I spent the weekend out of town with them and a 22 yr old latina promo girl.

    So what’s the deal? Is this guy not “alpha”?

    There are two other couples in the group that I know play around as well. Both of the guys are DJ’s. One is married to an early 20’s high 7. The other is in an LTR with a 9. Are these guys “omega” because they pass the pussy around?

    This is yet another example of why the internet/PUA definition of alpha is WRONG. “Alpha” has nothing to do with sex.

    So what gives? All of these guys have NO problem pulling women. Common sense would dictate that if they have options, the last thing they would allow is another dude to bang their women.

    My take is that they are pretty smart and have figured out a way to detach their emotions from sex. They want the comfort of a long term relationship with a “special” girl, but they realize that in today’s sexually promiscuous society, chances are good that she is going to be fucking someone else anyway, so they might as well get their rocks off together rather than sneaking around behind each others back.

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  17. on January 10, 2011 at 3:22 pm maurice

    This post reads like a bad parody of Roissy.

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  18. on January 10, 2011 at 3:26 pm krauserpua

    There’s no such thing as an “alpha female”. Alpha is a relational category that invokes dominance over other men. Females are not part of the male dominance hierarchy. There is no mirror.

    There are:

    – “mother hens”. In an all-female group one women will access her dormant masculinity to provide the leadership and direction the group lacks without a man present.

    – “ballbusting GFs”. If the herb man refuses to me the man of the relationship, the woman will do it for him and become a despiciable harpy.

    – “lawyer cunt”. If a women chooses a career path that negates her feminity she will access the masculinity and become a square-jawed power-suit wearing slut who aggressively competes over every little thing.

    – “amazon”. A statuesque woman of extreme beauty. She may or may not act masculine, but many men will be terrified of her presence and do a dick-tuck. Such herbiness creates a vacuum and encourages her to act masculine in their presence only.

    None of these women are alpha. They are simply women who access masculinity and are torn apart by it’s effects.

    A smoking hot once-in-10,000 beauty is not in any way shape or form “alpha”. She is simply very high value. It’s a top score on a scale, not a top position in a scrum.

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  19. on January 10, 2011 at 3:44 pm namae nanka

    +1 to krauser

    and the “lengths to which women will go to get a nooky”:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1345676/Mother-2-flew-America-sex-boy-13-met-playing-X-Box-arrested.html

    A mother-of-two has been arrested after flying across America to have sex with a 13-year-old boy she met playing video games on the Internet.

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  20. on January 10, 2011 at 3:45 pm Firepower

    VeteransAbroad

    The film is worth it even if only for the song that runs during the credits:

    Hey captain, that song fried my speakers.

    If you think that movie reflects today’s cops hunting down bad guys, you should return to the homeland and learn that law “enforcement” mostly fill out racial paperwork – but write tickets to grannies to fund their local Welfare State.

    Glamorizing Grit is like monks praying to Jebus for help as the Vikings loot their monastery before parting their quaint baldy hairdos with a battleaxe.

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  21. on January 10, 2011 at 3:45 pm peckerwood

    Krauser! what’s up! Glad to see the pua-hate-troll hasn’t brought you down.

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  22. on January 10, 2011 at 4:04 pm Frost

    Does banging a girl while she’s on the rag count as a fetish? Prudes.

    I think you can define an “alpha female” in two ways. Either at the top of the sexual marketplace value totem pole, or the top of the intra-female social dominance hierarchy.

    As men, one practically equates to the other. For women, social dominance beyond a certain level reduces SMV.

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  23. on January 10, 2011 at 4:39 pm walawala

    On Email #3

    “”Other than that, I can’t tell you much, because I am of the mind that Facebook is an emasculating nutgrinder which purpose suits the distaff sex completely and at the expense of the stripping away of your natural male advantage of imposing, virile body language and inscrutable ponderings.””

    I used to think otherwise, but now see that Facebook is a tool that when used correctly can either raise your value or lower it.

    The point I’ve learned is that it is better to be added as a “friend” than to “add”.

    The second is that once added by a girl, initiate chat not an email. That chat function is like an invitation by the girl.

    Finally, if that chat goes no where, that’s it.

    Being seen to be doing cool things and more importantly having photos with other girls is extremely important.

    The thing about waiting vs going for it. Yes, but you have to be able to read the signs and IOI’s.

    I just banged a girl I’d been gaming for quite some time.

    THe timing was never quite right and for a variety of reasons the target needed to get comfortable.

    Also, the target gets hit on a lot by guys and would tell me about their failed attempts. Perhaps this was her way of trying to get me interested. Most times I would either change the subject, laugh, or laugh and change the subject.

    But in most cases, the attempt she described was some sloppy misreading of the cues.

    In my case, I would escalate and pull back, then be seen with other girls.

    One thing that is under-estimated and often misunderstood that I’ve learned over the past year of trying to learn and master game is the importance of moving from Attraction to Comfort.

    This is a very subtle art and it requires a mastery of the reading of the IOI’s and then understanding when to go for it.

    Also, it requires patience and as this blog suggests always approaching from a position of abundance.

    I’ve number closed a lot of 7’s, and 8’s. From those a majority will flake. But of the ones who don’t there is a 100% success rate.

    So the idea of going for it vs waiting is a key learning.

    The other key learning is to understand when, how quickly and the smoothest way to go from converting Attraction to Comfort.

    More insights and experiences on this would be helpful

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  24. on January 10, 2011 at 5:00 pm Sir_Chancealot

    It is nice to read someone who can actually write prose that is above the high school level.

    Keep up the good work.

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  25. on January 10, 2011 at 5:22 pm Timothy Webster

    I have spoken to several guys, 30 and under. Also one guy in his 50’s. They have fantastic luck with Facebook and texting. I watched what they do. It is pure game. They have made the leap; they have transferred game to electronic media.

    Believe it or not, “verbal” game does attract a certain kind of women. Just as some women go for big muscles and shoulders, others go for men with silver tongues. But the game is the same; it just comes out differently. If you lack in looks, you REALLY have to have the mental capacity to game her. For such men, Facebook, Plenty of Fish, and text messaging are God-sent.

    I am not such a man; wish I knew how they did it. One 30 year old construction worker pulled 70 bangs in 2 years, after a 7 year drought when he was in depression. He only used Plenty of Fish.

    Admittedly, he was banging uglies by my standards, but none of them were fatties.

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  26. on January 10, 2011 at 5:33 pm askjoe

    Admittedly, he was banging uglies by my standards, but none of them were fatties.

    to quote the host, what’s the point of that?

    another thing that Roosh points out, Game isn’t for chicks below an 8. Although, Roissy seems to think that it’s an elevationary thing where it lets you get 2 points above your station. Oh wait, VK’s into the mudturtle thing, better check his stuff out.

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  27. on January 10, 2011 at 5:39 pm Good Luck Chuck

    walawala-

    Being seen to be doing cool things and more importantly having photos with other girls is extremely important.

    Anyone have any thoughts on the other edge to this sword?

    I have quite a few pictures on facebook of me partying with chicks. Some posted by me, others where I was tagged by someone else. My buddy’s g/f always looks out for me when it comes to hooking up, and she mentioned several times that I need to change my pictures so as not to give off a player vibe.

    There is an art to crafting a facebook profile, much the same as an internet dating profile. I’m guessing that having an abundance of pics with multiple women can either help you or hurt you depending upon the stage of a woman’s attraction toward you. If you have built a decent amount of face to face attraction it can probably help you. On the other end of the spectrum if someone tries to set you up on a blind date by introducing you on facebook chances are she’s gonna blow you out before you have had a chance to open your mouth (this happened to me once).

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  28. on January 10, 2011 at 5:40 pm Evil Alpha

    Chuck,

    Reconsider.

    I once dated a rich, beautiful girl who was into all sorts of kinky sexual experiences.

    BUT I NEVER ONCE CONSIDERED MAKING HER DAMAGED ASS MY WIFE.

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  29. on January 10, 2011 at 5:50 pm SFG

    As a partial counterexample, I will say that a lot of computer dudes are into the kinky stuff.

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  30. on January 10, 2011 at 5:53 pm Evil Alpha

    @ namae nanka

    Why shouldn’t she?? She won’t serve much time… if any.

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  31. on January 10, 2011 at 5:58 pm Evil Alpha

    @Chuck

    Being viewed as a serial monogamist who only dates the hottest chicks keeps you in the game for all chicks. Pick the 2 hottest girls you’ve banged and be pictured with them.

    This will work in your living room and online. Girls will mistakenly but automatically assume they are your ex GF’s, not just another piece of ass you stuck.

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  32. on January 10, 2011 at 6:03 pm Timothy Webster

    @Thursday

    If you are still there, Thursday, any thoughts on this? 19 year old girl from the Bible belt, shy, her family is shy. Sense some attraction from her. Some herb from her high school asked her for a date a couple months ago, she ignored him. She’s a tiny bit overweight, but still good looking, tall, blonde, blue eyed, etc. For looks, I’d say she’s an 8. She says she’s single because “noone has asked her out”. Her family are hardcore fascists of the Christian variety. From what I can tell, she is mother of my children material. Any tips? I’ve been doing push-pull, but she’s been doing push-pull right back. I’m 30, get along with her parents.

    This is small town country; if I mess up, it could poison the entire area for me. Her family is landed gentry.

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  33. on January 10, 2011 at 6:50 pm Vincent Ignatius

    Smacking and choking a girl is an alpha fetish.

    Getting it in the pooper by a chick wearing a strap on has to be one of the most omega fetishes.

    I like krauser’s breakdown. #1 is an amazon mother hen.

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  34. on January 10, 2011 at 7:13 pm Rey de Corazones

    Good Luck Chuck —

    When you present your counterexample(s), consider the distance between your buddy and the primary demographic of this board — polar opposites in terms of almost every relevant variable (temperament, social milieu, views on family/property/the intersection of those two, upbringing, politics, values system). Most people here not only aren’t on the same page, they aren’t even reading the same book. Hell, they aren’t even reading in the same language.

    Would that upper-class college “immersion” programs, in addition to offering options in Florence, Paris, etc., could offer the Daytona bike-week immersion program.
    That’d be an eye opener.

    —

    Vincent Ignatius —

    Smacking and choking a girl is an alpha fetish

    Alpha? Sure.
    Fetish? Hardly. No more a fetish than, say, sticking your cock into her holes.

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  35. on January 10, 2011 at 8:08 pm Good Luck Chuck

    I’m not saying that every guy should be into having orgies with his wife and friends. But……it does poke a few holes in the whole PUA definition of “alpha”, and I definitely believe that most guys could take a few lessons from my friends when it comes to controlling emotions and keeping the perspective that women are essentially interchangeable holes.

    Me? Don’t know if I could ever become fully involved in that scene. Being on the fringes is perfect. Get to bang it out with freaky 20 somethings and all I have to do is buy a round of drinks from time to time, which I would be doing anyway.

    Evil Alpha-

    @Chuck

    Being viewed as a serial monogamist who only dates the hottest chicks keeps you in the game for all chicks. Pick the 2 hottest girls you’ve banged and be pictured with them.

    This will work in your living room and online. Girls will mistakenly but automatically assume they are your ex GF’s, not just another piece of ass you stuck.

    The problem with that situation is that it would look pretty strange for me to put up pics of exes at this point.

    The last chick I actually “dated” was a knockout. It was one of those modern type relationships where we didn’t actually make anything official so we didn’t get into posting pics of us as a couple.

    I suppose this conversation could serve as evidence of how ridiculous the whole facebook thing really is. But the way I see it, the mating game in the western sphere is already fucked so you might as well ride the waves instead of trying to swim against the current.

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  36. on January 10, 2011 at 8:44 pm Good Luck Chuck

    Rey de Corazones-

    When you present your counterexample(s), consider the distance between your buddy and the primary demographic of this board — polar opposites in terms of almost every relevant variable (temperament, social milieu, views on family/property/the intersection of those two, upbringing, politics, values system). Most people here not only aren’t on the same page, they aren’t even reading the same book. Hell, they aren’t even reading in the same language.

    Are they really that much different?

    The younger swinger community and the PUA community are both taking advantage of the current sexual climate, albeit in different ways.

    After having had a glimpse of what women are truly like underneath the facade, how many guys are ever able to go back to seeing women as angelic creatures worthy of love and trust and honesty? After you have sex with a variety of women you either have to acknowledge the fact that the odds are good that a woman will cheat on you in a relationship anyway, or you have to stick your head back in the sand and pretend like the woman you marry is somehow going to be different than the rest.

    My point is that there is more to the dynamics of swinging than just “It’s a beta/omega fetish”.

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  37. on January 10, 2011 at 8:53 pm Rey de Corazones

    GLC

    After you have sex with a variety of women you either have to acknowledge the fact that the odds are good that a woman will cheat on you in a relationship anyway, or you have to stick your head back in the sand and pretend like the woman you marry is somehow going to be different than the rest.

    Or you can realize that they’re all, at a basal level, whores, but this one is your prize whore. And that you can love that prize whore, with all (that’s left of) your heart.
    And that you’re the pimp.
    And that you can decide exactly how much pimpin’ is appropriate.

    I bet your buddy wouldn’t use the word “cheat” for the escapades you’re describing.
    And I’ll bet my bottom dollar that his wife doesn’t cheat on him.

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  38. on January 10, 2011 at 9:00 pm xsplat

    Good luck chuck, I agree with you.

    People rationalize their instincts in positive ways, and can not understand a lack of those instincts in others. It is pretty strange that some people have less jealousy and arrange different sexual dynamics – strange enough to be incomprehensible to those not built to live that way.

    If you can’t manage and control your girl, that’s beta. If you WANT to see someone else fuck her, and manage and arrange for that, that’s neither alpha nor beta – that’s just your innate sexual proclivity. It’s not a cuckold fetish – you aren’t going to get the girl pregnant and then raise the cuckoo.

    People get confused about that male erogenous zone that is up our buts also. It’s incomprensible to people that we have one, and that the female G spot is the SAME THING. About 30% of females have a female analogue to the male prostate, and bumping on it makes em come. Having and enjoying an erogenous zone is not beta.

    It’s also not beta to be receptive sexually, emotionally expressive, or to be a screamer.

    Alpha/beta is about who is controlling the room. Whose frame is automatically taken to be the frame. Who is gaining advantage on HIS terms.

    It’s not about what terms are preferred.

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  39. on January 10, 2011 at 9:32 pm bruno

    I’m not sure the Romanian girl understood well the concept of ‘alpha male’ as well as the biological dynamics that are behind it.

    ***

    Anyhow, I beg your pardon for making a personal request. I would like to acquire game knowledge in a more systematical way. Helpful as Roissy’s posts may be, I’m in need of practical advice covering every aspect of Game – some kind of “how to”.

    Could anyone recommend some good reading for a newbie?

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  40. on January 10, 2011 at 9:40 pm Legion

    The emotionally stunted present that shortcoming as a virtue.

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  41. on January 10, 2011 at 11:34 pm Edward

    The list of perversions is unpleasant to read.

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  42. on January 10, 2011 at 11:37 pm Edward

    @Timothy Webster

    get along with her parents.

    That might be a partial, unconscious negative in the girl’s eyes. You might try carefully disputing her father in front of her on an issue that won’t backfire.

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  43. on January 10, 2011 at 11:41 pm Squared

    Chuck:

    I agree with your line of thinking, and your comment touches upon an issue I have with the roissysphere definition of the alpha male (ie: a man’s alphaness is determined solely by his attractiveness to women).

    Other than the fact that a measure under which a guy like Justin fucking Bieber is super alpha is automatically broken/useless, the problem is that the term “alpha male” evokes the image of the all powerful, dominant silverback gorilla. The fearless leader of the wolfpack. He who holds absolute control not only over access to reproductive resources, but also the power over life and death. The discrepancy between what this term suggests and the (self-serving) definition roissy proposes is where much of the disconnect between who’s alpha and who’s not comes from. Again, how can anybody call Justin Bieber an alpha male with a straight face?

    I’m sure many roissysphere “alphas” know this deep down, but even in the place where pretty lies are supposed to perish, some here don’t seem to mind partaking in a little self-delusion.

    A definition of alpha male that makes more sense is one that is more analogous to the top silverback gorilla in the previous example. In other words, he should not only be attractive to women, he should also possess some serious potential power over life and death. Capacity to lay a serious beat down if necessary is therefore a definite pre-requisite. As is the possession of power in its purest physical form, aka money, in vast quantities.

    Physical prowess, attractiveness to women and money. The ultimate alpha trifecta. Being above average in only 1/3 categories makes you no better than lesser alpha at best in my eyes.

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  44. on January 11, 2011 at 12:38 am Anonymous

    Good Luck Chuck sayd: “In the truest evolutionary sense a high value male would be unwilling to share his wife with another man, but I have a group of VERY alpha friends who gladly share their women.”

    Happy for ’em, hope it lasts. When it comes to cuckold play, it’s usually the alphas who enjoy being the stud or just f*cking/impregnating other men’s wives because they can. Sharing usually breaks down when favorites, possessiveness and/or hurt feelings crop up.

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  45. on January 11, 2011 at 1:44 am quetal

    Science proves roissy to be right…again!

    Men who mentionned to their dates that they where dumped in their previous relationships hurt their chances while men who mention to their dates that THEY dumped their ex INCREASED their chances of getting laid.

    furthermore, failing to disclose who was the dumper and dumpee (i.e. being anonymous about why and how the previous relationship ended) had a negative effect as women could feel “suspicious” that he is hiding something.

    the effect was even stronger when the ex that was dumped was hot.

    moral of the story, always be the Dumper!

    http://www.epjournal.net/filestore/EP08682694.pdf

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  46. on January 11, 2011 at 1:59 am mr. anonymous

    Anyone know the best way to respond to a compliment? Let’s say, “You’re looking good!” Just “thanks” seems pretty weak.

    Also, to a full-on come-on, without sounding beta. Just laughing for example is pretty weak.

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  47. on January 11, 2011 at 3:49 am jayjay

    good luck chuck,

    i’ve been into the swinging scene for 6 years and it makes a LOT of sense for alpha guys. up until about 6 months ago, as a single male playing w/ other guys wives, and these guys definitely leaned on the beta side but some i think were just sick of banging their wives… there’s only so many ways and times you can tap it before it loses that new vag smell…

    the problem is that even in a big town, your options as a single guy in the lifestyle are limited. but recently i found a cute, curious, totally bi chick that wanted to go to parties w/ me as a couple. as an attractive young couple, there’s an almost unlimited # of options. most of the couples we’ve played with are married, but the women are almost always bi and although plenty of the guys seem pretty alpha, they’re completely bored of banging their wife too. swinging gives them the chance to bone a hot new chick and not get in trouble for it. so anyways, if you find a slutty bi chick that you’re not that emotionally into, don’t just pump and dump her… use her for what god intended!

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  48. on January 11, 2011 at 4:24 am Handfetish

    I like girls with delicate hands, but no i live in germany and here the girls have truck driver hands and i feel i am being touched by a man. How can I overcome this psychologic problem?

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  49. on January 11, 2011 at 4:39 am Rey de Corazones

    I like girls with delicate hands, but no i live in germany and here the girls have truck driver hands and i feel i am being touched by a man.

    Hmm. Do they also have Adam’s apples, and clits that are about twenty times the normal size? If so, then maybe your comparison isn’t as much of a comparison as you think.
    Heh

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  50. on January 11, 2011 at 6:00 am Ubermind

    Does a future of alpha-partnerships (or bangs) lead to the extinction of the human race (from what I see, having children is beta) ?

    The host has obviously evaded answering this question.

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  51. on January 11, 2011 at 10:36 am Snoeperd

    @maurice

    True, this really doesn’t read like a normal post. Maybe his little brother wanted to make his authoring debut?

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  52. on January 11, 2011 at 10:37 am DJ

    If having children is beta, what about having a child without ever having been with the mother?

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  53. on January 11, 2011 at 10:39 am DJ

    I just realised what that sounded like. What about if you had a child with a woman, you know it’s yours, but you never married nor co-habitated with the mother? I had a child under such circumstances.

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  54. on January 11, 2011 at 10:53 am Evil Alpha

    swinging gives them the chance to bone a hot new chick and not get in trouble for it.

    @JayJay

    You using a bi slut for group sex opportunity is alpha.

    A guy letting other dudes bang his wife so that she will “let” him have some strange is not alpha behavior. As a matter of fact that “tit for tat” model is some shit a feminist advice columnist would suggest. Married, alpha male group sex is always some form of multiple female, single male with the most common being FFM.

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  55. on January 11, 2011 at 12:15 pm Boycott american women

    BOYCOTT AMERICAN WOMEN
    Why American men should boycott American women

    http://boycottamericanwomen.blogspot.com/

    I am an American man, and I have decided to boycott American women. In a nutshell, American women are the most likely to cheat on you, to divorce you, to get fat, to steal half of your money in the divorce courts, don’t know how to cook or clean, don’t want to have children, etc. Therefore, what intelligent man would want to get involved with American women?

    American women are generally immature, selfish, extremely arrogant and self-centered, mentally unstable, irresponsible, and highly unchaste. The behavior of most American women is utterly disgusting, to say the least.

    This blog is my attempt to explain why I feel American women are inferior to foreign women (non-American women), and why American men should boycott American women, and date/marry only foreign (non-American) women.

    BOYCOTT AMERICAN WOMEN!

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  56. on January 11, 2011 at 12:39 pm Albion Moonlight

    Want to get an 8? Shoot her in the face.

    Taking Game to a point of ultimate simplicity, this guy is. Next, Prison Game!

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  57. on January 11, 2011 at 1:07 pm Rollo Tomassi

    “Alpha-Female”

    Translation: A gratifying self-reference term used by pushy, mouthy broads who think they’re being clever by adopting any term of superiority that might be applicable to a Man. Also see; ‘professional woman’.

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  58. on January 11, 2011 at 1:11 pm Good Luck Chuck

    jayjay-

    the problem is that even in a big town, your options as a single guy in the lifestyle are limited. but recently i found a cute, curious, totally bi chick that wanted to go to parties w/ me as a couple. as an attractive young couple, there’s an almost unlimited # of options. most of the couples we’ve played with are married, but the women are almost always bi and although plenty of the guys seem pretty alpha, they’re completely bored of banging their wife too. swinging gives them the chance to bone a hot new chick and not get in trouble for it. so anyways, if you find a slutty bi chick that you’re not that emotionally into, don’t just pump and dump her… use her for what god intended!

    The women who I have met through this group were all bi. You haven’t witnessed animalistic sexual aggression until you see two chicks rip each others clothes off after a night of making out with each other at the bar….

    Anyway, I know I need to figure out a way to step up to the plate and bring some chicks myself. Doesn’t make sense for them to continue to pass freebies to me without some kind of contribution on my end. I did introduce one of the guys to an ex fuck buddies to one of the guys and told him to have at it, but I need to find one of these bisexual nymphos to pal up with. Problem is, the girls in my other social groups don’t seem to be into that sort of thing.

    I don’t want to lose out on the opportunity to participate. Might try hitting up craigslist and see what happens.

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  59. on January 11, 2011 at 1:12 pm Bhetti

    A graph is 10,000 words.

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  60. on January 11, 2011 at 1:34 pm Gorbachev

    One phrase:

    FACEBOOK IS POISON.

    Remember it.

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  61. on January 11, 2011 at 1:34 pm Gorbachev

    Do the bare minimum required of you online in social networking. It’s an entirely feminine means of socializing.

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  62. on January 11, 2011 at 3:48 pm Anonymous

    Tarzan no have Facebook. No miss either.

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  63. on January 11, 2011 at 3:52 pm mr spam

    I know you were probably kidding, still I feel the need to point out that while gypsies are a significant minority in both Romania and Hungary, neither of these two ethnic groups are the same with gypsies. The desired PC nomenclature for gypsies (ie “roma”) has created a lot of confusion in the west, so I think some clarification is definately called for.

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  64. on January 11, 2011 at 4:14 pm schfifty five

    Gorbachev,

    I agree. But is having a bare-bones FB account with only a few pics a plus or a minus?

    Also, re: the swinging thing, I’m pretty sure no guy who willingly shares his wife has somehow exorcised his natural feelings of jealousy. I think that’s what is exciting him. I also believe that’s what porn is about.

    Think about it…how much porn is mmmf, and how much is fffm? The multi male gangbang is the most popular by far, from what I’ve (unfortunately) seen.

    We are only having this conversation because we are in the final days of a sick society. Even the “alphas” are beta, and sick.

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  65. on January 11, 2011 at 11:48 pm College Grad

    God dammit, this is one of the funniest posts I’ve read in months! Bravo.

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  66. on January 12, 2011 at 2:13 pm Evil Alpha

    Think about it…how much porn is mmmf, and how much is fffm? The multi male gangbang is the most popular by far, from what I’ve (unfortunately) seen.

    If you say “threesome”… most guys will envision two girls and one guy. Even most women will think FFM when “threesome” is mentioned. Gangbang is fringe type of group sex activity, and not what most people think of when group sex is brought up.

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  67. on January 14, 2011 at 1:33 pm Obstinance Works

    Handfetish

    I like girls with delicate hands, but no i live in germany and here the girls have truck driver hands and i feel i am being touched by a man. How can I overcome this psychologic problem?

    She must wear pink velvet gloves.

    —

    Ubermind

    Does a future of alpha-partnerships (or bangs) lead to the extinction of the human race (from what I see, having children is beta) ?

    The host has obviously evaded answering this question.

    We’ll just call it the posthuman race. Evolution?

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