Jared Lee Loughner wrote in an online gamer forum:
On May 5, he started a thread titled “Talk, Talk, Talking about Rejection.” He solicited stories of rejection by the opposite sex. The next day he wrote, “Its funny…when..they say lets go on a date about 3 times..and they dont….go…” Three days later, he wrote, “Its funny when your 60 wondering……what happen at 21.”
Color me shocked that another mass murdering male shooter has a history of sexual rejection. Obviously, being mentally deranged can hurt your chances with women, but constant sexual failure tends to reinforce the mental instability. It’s a vicious celibacy feedback loop.
Give some of these guys with mental issues the tools of game to successfully meet and date women, and the improvement in the unrelenting loneliness and sexual frustration they feel will help tame the beast. Loughner may not have been a candidate for Total Game Intervention, as his mental state — he likely pulled a genetic bad hand of paranoid schizophrenia — was too far gone from all accounts, but for society’s underbelly of men who still have some of their marbles a knowledge of game may go a ways to reducing the number of these horrific random mass shootings.
By the way, Filthy Lying Shitsack of the Month Award should go to Sheriff Dupnik, the craven cur who tried to deflect any potential media attention from evidence that he ignored death threats made by Loughner as a token of favoritism to Loughner’s mother, a county employee, by blaming conservative politicians and talk radio hosts.
Dupnik has blood on his hands, and he knows it. That is why he lies so recklessly and obstinately. When cornered, a stuck pig will lash out with a fury.
Not sure where you get the temerity to speak ill of our Overlords… our beneficent government employees.
Loughner’s mother, of course, works 10 hours a week, has no risk of being fired, and her pension value (if equivalent to today’s annuities).. and health benefits ad infinitum is probably equivalent to 7 figures.
In addition to be a no work de facto millionaire.. children of our Overlords can menace the population at will.
Bend over and take it up the ass (and smile) government employees are at work.
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“Give some of these guys with mental issues the tools of game to successfully meet and date women, and the improvement in the unrelenting loneliness and sexual frustration they feel will help tame the beast.”
To paraphrase Patrick Henry and echo what Dan Savage wrote about Sodini, “Give them that, or at least give them the right to choose to hire hookers.”
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fighting blood libel with libel, Sheriff, how you like them apples…oh wait, at least the accusations against you are true.
This reminds me of another South Park event, the cooking episode where a character is all about living out his Alton Brown dreams until he gets an old fashioned from his wife, then “cooking is dumb. zzzzzzz.”
Yeah, this shooter was allegedly obsessed with UFO’s and his obsession led to a perceived slight from Rep. Giffords. Imagine how some femmel company would’ve been reduced to “UFO’s are dumb. zzzzzzzz.”
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any chance that Loughner = Greatbooksformen?
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I knew you’d pounce right on that comment he made about not getting any pussy. As soon as i read that blurb in the paper I thought “roissy is going to pounce on that.”
No question about it. Getting your dick wet in some fine ass and drinking cold cocktail would cure a lot of the violent nonsense we see.
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We HAVE a match! One in the same – its why you don’t see any more posts.
Raving kooks NEVER know when to back off; it’s their hallmark.
Never thought a lib like gbfm would ever own a gun thingy, though.
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This story keeps getting weirder and weirder. Have you seen his posts at AboveTopSecret.com? Loony even for the conspiracy nuts on that site. That Sheriff Dipstick definitely needs to be retired. He’s earned the Sheriff Moose/Nifong award for incompetency and political bullshit.
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When nutjobs do something crazy, people reflexively ask “what went wrong in his childhood?”
Sometimes nothing. And even if it did, it may not be the cause. Some people have lesions and defects in parts of their brains, genetic propensities towards violence, and are just damaged fucked up people who could not ever be moulded into emotionally balanced people.
The guy Sodini was a loser who got rejected sexually a lot, but even teaching him game at an early stage and giving him the best upbringing may not have been enough; perhaps he wouldn’t kill anyone, but he’d be a weird creepy fuck.
Anyway,
Roissy I bet you could make some epic podcasts. Better than deAngelo’s interviews. Those would be great. Would you ever consider that? An interview with you and Roosh, audio only, could be used as a start, or even just a one-off.
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Nifong’s Liberal Fascism against the INNOCENT Duke LaCrossers is all but forgot by an even more Liberal, more Fascist msm.
Swept under the rug.
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hmmm said:”any chance that Loughner = Greatbooksformen?”
If not, I’ll bet he’ll not talk about asskoking fiatmoneyz for a while at least.
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One of the things that attracts me to literature on game is the need to compensate for my baggage. Namely, a mentally ill brother that lives with me. Its not hard for me to imagine him making the news (agian) in such a fashion. I want an edge to help keep him from scaring my ladyfriends away. Most of us will not be surprised to learn that delusional, psychotic, and dangerous schitzoid men have little or no trouble bedding females.
The incident cited in the article is a bad example for this argument. A better example would be the guy that opened fire in a women’s aerobics class a few years back. That was a clear case of fatal game deficiency as the guy had a blog about his lack of game and a video suicide note explaining his motive for the rampage (couldn’t attract a mate).
Some guys that suffer from mood disorders can clearly be helped by learning game tactics and concepts. Teaching game to those with delusional type disorders will probably only put women in harm’s way IMHO.
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wait wait wait… what about the PUA Gunwitch that shot that chick in the face….
Might be the funniest story ever
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DontTazMyJunkBro – “Most of us will not be surprised to learn that delusional, psychotic, and dangerous schitzoid men have little or no trouble bedding females.”
A lot of sociopathic sorts are good PUAs, and successful with women. They are the quintessential aloof bad boys.
the more egregiously delusional, psychotic, and dangerous schitzoid men are not generally chick magnets, as their oddity and anti-social facets are too prominently on display. They ar the more obvious losers, the sorts who sould have trouble getting laid in a whorehouse with a pocket full of $100 bills.
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you’d have to check for the telltale lozlzlzlozlz!!s in his writings.
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Sheriff Dupnik is a hatemongering, Big Government Liberal.
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2011/01/12/20110112gabrielle-giffords-arizona-shooting-pima-county-wont-release-jared-loughner-records.html
The PROOF is that this vile bureaucrat feels free to blame the Tea Party (and every anti-Liberal force)
YET – this fascist law “enforcement” Liberal flatly REFUSES to surrender PUBLIC documents – even though that is the law.
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The shooter, Jared Loughner, is Jewish.
So much for the liberal MSM’s attempt to drag anti-semitism into this……
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This is insightful and responsible journalism on your part.
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To paraphrase a hazily-remembered article about the motivations of Muslim suicide bombers, “Ladies, you have the solution to the problem, and you’re sitting on it.”
As for Dupnik, I’ll reserve judgment until the full picture comes out.
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I’ve always said it to women who think that sex is irrelevant.
Men need sex for sanity.
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You are a pawn of the Liberal msm, neutered into sluggish indecisiveness by your Big Government Education.
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Some (and most women) will conclude “all guys not worth dating are murdererers in waiting”.
On the other hand, the correct conclusion is “rejection can turn a potentially productive member of society into a lunatic”.
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I have to admit, when I look at Loughner’s gruesome mug shot, I feel pity for him. Even acknowledging his heinous acts. I can well imagine, his entire life, every time he made eye contact with others they likely recoiled, probably scarring his psyche as a child. Into his teen years, the repellant reaction of females to his presence, let alone his approaches, must have been quite unpleasant for him. His world had to have been a very unhappy place.
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erm, quit with the violins and Kleenex missy.
This guy was insane. Got it? INSANE.
He wouldn’t care if pink elephants danced the polka on a moonbeam.
Scarred childhood psyche – my ass.
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You know, I haven’t seen the Great Books guy around lately, either . . .
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No doubt that Loughner was insane, but it you can’t say that conservative commentators and politicians’ rhetoric weren’t influential.
Conservative commentators don’t hesistate to tell their listeners to grab their guns and kill those radical anarchist Lefties.
[Editor: You were saying?]
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@Zeus
OK, fool, so since when have you been smoking crack?
Perhaps English is not your first language…
I have NEVER heard conservative commentators call for the MURDER of the leftie socialist nutjobs…
Throw them out of office? Yes. Murder? No.
Put down the crack pipe, homeboy.
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It was revealed in another article that he didn’t watch tv or listen to talk radio because he hated it.
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Yees, all those celibate Monks (christian/buddist/etc) all over the world.
Ticking time bombs the whole lot, just one half-arsed wank away from going ballistic.
Meanwhile all you fine fuckers are happily dancing along to the totalitarian tiptoe tune.
Well fucked and sitting in your radioactive waste spewing Warthogs or “Joysticking” that predator drone. Happily blowing yet another “Sandpeople” wedding party to kingdom come.
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There is no excuse for killing people. Obviously that is the most “no shit” statement you can make.
But, being totally ignored by girls your whole life, being alone, never being able to have normal relationship experiences with girls etc. makes it impossible to have any semblance of a normal life and to think normally.
I don’t think there is any worse feeling in the world than knowing that you are worthless to girls. It really does mess with your mind and change your whole outlook on life. At the end of the day, the relationships you have with family, friends, and with the opposite sex are the most important part of life. If you are sexually worthless to girls, your life is going to be miserable.
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Oh, God. Do you realize how beta you look when you fall for manufactured myths like this? These myths are created so that gullible people will re-transmit them before it can be established that they are false.
You played your part like a perfect patsy, despite that the story you linked to is riddled with red flags that any intelligent, actively thinking person would have been able to see.
Ideological blindness is not an excuse for gullibility. A sucker is a sucker.
[Editor: Lemme guess… you’re a leftie.]
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Yo Facepalm….you just did a FacePLANT.
GFY.
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What did Laughner mean by his question, “What is government if words have no meaning?”
In an interview, one of his friends seems to imply that there was some sense behind it.
http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/01/jared-lee-loughner-friend-voicemail-phone-message
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that’s the thing, libs hate this country, its history, and its wrong kind of white people. They just don’t see anything wrong with that.
But they also act like their shit don’t stink, that they’ve only acted like the milquetoast fairies they think they are.
Roissy raises the Malkin collection, let’s not forget
http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=621
I’ll take your evidence, leftard, and raise you 100.
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firepower-
“quit with the violins and Kleenex missy.
This guy was insane. Got it? INSANE.
He wouldn’t care if pink elephants danced the polka on a moonbeam.”
I concur that he appears insane. We appear to be in agreement, then, that this guy was dealt a pretty shitty hand, and, for that, I pity him. And pal, I’m anything but a lib.
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oh that’s cute, radiation spitting warthogs, wedding parties. Let’s spread anti-american lies like it’s 2002.
I get it, cultural self-defense is totalitarian. Just like reading the constitution is threatening.
DIAF, go live somewhere else that doesn’t depend on America’s protection.
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I don’t know that it would make a difference to someone who was frankly schizophrenic like Loughner, but I have no doubt that some knowledge of game would immensely benefit the Sodinis of the world.
Failing that, they need legalized prostitution, a place to go and enjoy female company and stress relief once or twice a month. It’s just a matter of mental hygiene.
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It may not be the time to ask but, was Giffords a feminist?
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That made me chuckle until I thought where is that guy? Now I’m not so sure I can take your comment in jest.
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The efforts of both sides to put him in the other corner are pathetic. Sadly, MPAI and the idiocracy will march on.
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Dude, get a grip. Both sides didn’t do nothing. One side jumped full on to the blame palin insanity.
I am sure most of us cons considered it could’ve been 1. sudden onset jihad syndrome (see also the Beltway Snipers, Ft Hood, LAX shooting, UNC SUV, etc.) 2. Drug Cartel violence 3. some sort of La Raza immigration thing. 4. something really stupid and unfortunate. Very last on the list, a #5, was an unhinged leftist (see, the discovery center shooter, JFK assassin, etc.).
Even more important, we waited until it turned out that options 1-3 were wrong before picking our story and sticking with it. Heck, even after discovery center, not many people were tweeting that Al Gore had blood on his hands.
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I have taught many a washed up, shell shocked lesser beta game techniques and have watched them turn into normal humans. Men were meant to have sex and when you don’t get it, for months or even years, it does weird things to the human mind. Many men who continually strike out, usually because they are playing Mr. Nice Guy, can get quite depressed. In their view, they are doing everything right, conforming to society’s expectations of male-female relationships, and their reward is rejection.
Teach them even the core fundamentals of game, make them go open some sets, then in about three months you will see a guy that looks better, dresses better, walks tall, and has some confidence. Even if he can’t same night close them and only number closes one in ten, he is still a man that looks alive.
If you were a dud for several years and couldn’t get any numbers or line up successful dates the simple act of a woman 5 or above willingly giving you her number will put you on cloud 9 for weeks on end.
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“No doubt that Loughner was insane, but it you can’t say that conservative commentators and politicians’ rhetoric weren’t influential.”
I am so tired of hearing people say garbage like this. Political rhetoric has been inflammatory on all sides since time immemorial. There is nothing uniquely Republican or “right-wing” or modern or even American about nasty political rhetoric. It existed in Rome, Victorian Britain, Ancient Greece, and anywhere else imaginable. And you know what? How many people have ever killed someone else directly due to political rhetoric? Very, very few.
The fact that this guy decided to kill these people is his own cross to bear. It isn’t the fault of pot, liberal rhetoric, conservative rhetoric, a “failing” mental health system, the police department, or anyone else whatsoever. The vast, overwhelming majority of people in our society go through life without killing anyone else despite hearing commentators scream at each other on primetime TV. Let’s get a grip here.
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Celibate monks in the Dark Ages (or even pre-Modern times) are not the same as involuntary celibate guys when “sex, sex, SEX!” is going around like Charlie Sheen with three porn stars.
Sheen is at least as dysfunctional as Jared Lee Loughner, with one ex girlfriend “accidentally” (Kelly Preston) shot in the leg during a “gun cleaning accident,” allegations of abuse and violence by Denise Richards, conviction for putting a knife to his second wife’s throat and uttering death threats on Christmas Day (how romantic!) and allegations of abuse/violence by the woman in the NYC hotel room.
However, because he’s Charlie Sheen: not lacking for booze/other substance self-medication or female companionship, he’s able to do a TV show.
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[…] saw this post at roissy- Shades Of George Sodini and followed up to the linked WSJ article- Postings of a Troubled Mind Last May 9, at two in the […]
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yes, I can. There’s not only no proof that it was, all evidence points to the contrary.
Even better, so what if it was? Ban speech because schizophrenics may – hypothetically – be moved to violence?
Another blogger pointed out today that at some points, ideas are always capable of being an incitement. Look at the global warming nut who attacked the discovery channel or the eco-nut who died trying to commune with bears. The point being…deal with it. What if we never got incited to write the Declaration of Independence or whatever?
Or to put it another way, your example of rhetoric, on a scale of 1-10, is a 3. Calling a communist like Obama a socialist is a 2. Obama sending union thugs to intimidate bank CEO’s is around a 9. Where do you draw your line, or is you line a “it’s ok when libs do it but bad when cons do it,” kind of thing.
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Color me shocked that another mass murdering male shooter has a history of sexual rejection. Obviously, being mentally deranged can hurt your chances with women, but constant sexual failure tends to reinforce the mental instability. It’s a vicious celibacy feedback loop.
I am not shocked that this nutjob shot a female politician either.
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[…] Just like Sodini, the Arizona shooter also seems to have a history of rejection by women. Yet another reason why men who never become “men” can be […]
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Involuntary celibacy is probably one of the greatest evils thrust upon man by our post-feminist civilization. I have seen it drive men to the brink of insanity. Ever meet a married guy on a business trip who has a wife that hasn’t put out for months or years? Those guys go crazy. They want to go to strip clubs, call up hooker, or pound the ugliest thing that is in the hotel bar. The only thing that holds them back is some sense of morality bound around their marriage vows and monogamy.
Interestingly enough, in most religious interpretations of marriage and even common law interpretations is that a woman is violating her vows by refusing sex with her husband. Confront the withholding wenches with this and prepare to be lashed like that slave from Roots. But, somehow, if that same guy cheats on the withholding succubus their end of the bargain is used to cudgel them both in the courts and society at large.
If post-modern society is going to deliver us women who feel that they have no sexual obligation to a man they have roped into involuntary servitude, then I think marriage should be abolished or men should at least have a way out of these horrific unions without losing their kids, house, and life savings.
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whiskey you really hate charlie sheen.
for the record I do to and can’t imagine how any woman with 1/2 a brain would spend time alone with him.
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“any chance that Loughner = Greatbooksformen?”
No, GBFM commented on the “Girlfriend Ovulating” post on Sunday, which was after the shootings.
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Interestingly enough, in most religious interpretations of marriage and even common law interpretations is that a woman is violating her vows by refusing sex with her husband.
legally, the withholding of sex in a marriage is considered a form of abandonment and thus a fault that is grounds for divorce.
the difficulty is in proving that your wife (or husband, it cuts both ways) withheld sex from you for an extended period of time, usually one year.
but it’s all moot anyway, since all 50 states in the u.s. now have no-fault divorce.
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@itsme
Yes there is some old case law prior to the 1950’s that did hold wives who withheld sex had committed abandonment. I have never ran across any such modern interpretations nor would I doubt that any judge, short of one maybe in the deep South or rugged Northwest, would ever grant an at fault divorce for lack of sex. Even if granted, any appellate court would reverse him in two seconds.
I would make it part an explicit part of the emotional cruelty at-fault action. Any part adjudicated to be at-fault under this section would lose claim to either all or 90% of marital property.
Even though every state now has no-fault proceedings (NY just went last year, ironically it was the last holdout) one party can always plead an at-fault claim. In most states, when one party pleads at-fault that will proceed to trial because it can significantly effect division of property if one party is adjudicated to be at-fault.
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Loughner is definitely crazy.
However, he’s less crazy than the average American who quietly takes the ass-reaming doled out by these politicians who sell out America, export our jobs, import illegal immigrants, enforce a feminazi agenda, and tax the average American into life-long servitude.
Really, who’s missing one dead politician?
They could all go and we’d be better off.
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There should be state-funded whorehouses and every working, tax-paying man ought to be entitled to four free shags a month.
A much better way to spend taxpayer funds than giving them all (and trillions more in the form of debt) to the parasitic jews over at the “Federal” Reserve.
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There should be state-funded whorehouses and every working, tax-paying man ought to be entitled to four free shags a month.
That was a staple of ancient Athens during its Golden Age. Go figure….
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“If you are sexually worthless to girls, your life is going to be miserable.”
Pretty accurate. So instead of following the mainstream media chorus of “political rhetoric” being at fault, Guys like Roissy, myself, and all of us who heard of this incident and knew the REAL cause need to start fighting to change the root causes. We know why he did this. It is because he was socially alienated, and slut feminism, hypergamy, and affirmative action for women have created a world where young males are increasingly likely to be alienated in this way. Right now President Osama is blabbering on, refusing to confront the true facts here. Guys like him, feminist politicians, judges, etc. have caused this. They caused Sodini, they caused Cho, and they caused Loughner. And it’s time someone bludgeons them upside the head with this information. Figuratively, of course.
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Paul wrote:
“The efforts of both sides to put him in the other corner are pathetic.”
Maybe so, though first, in looking at things from a different angle in response to a previous comment, on behalf of all of us who are more than 1/8 Jewish, I’m tossing at least 7/8 of him back like a Wrigley Bleacher Bum tosses back a visiting team homer: http://blogs.jta.org/politics/article/2011/01/12/2742519/loughners-jewish-mother-not-so-much
Then again, he smokes weed, so that brings him a little bit back into my side of things.
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Sorry, I couldn’t read the onslaught of bullshit which preceded me.
Perhaps it’s been mentioned.
This has nothing to do with your revered “Game.”
Game isn’t good for shit.
If you’re an oddball lunatic, Game is a joke.
Game is like a midget wearing platform heels.
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[…] Roissy has another take that I think has some merit. Many of Loughner’s writings depict years of him being rejected by women. There are plenty of other examples of this happening, the recent one of George Sodini referenced in Roissy’s post just being a glaring example. […]
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I found the next George Sodini. It’s clear that this dude will eventually crack and go on a shooting spree. I will be interested if he decides to kill himself afterward or not. Unlike Loughner he’s much more coherent and lucid. If he survives his shooting spree it will be the first case where an attack of this nature will be defended by its perpetrator with MRA rhetoric, the ideology of losers without game.
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So we’re gonna keep the italics on?
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Well, he won’t be getting any pussy where he’s going, so look for the drought to continue.
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How could you suggest that a fine upstanding sheriff might ignore complaints about a dangerous loon simple because the loon’s mother had clout?
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@brendan
Well, he won’t be getting any pussy where he’s going, so look for the drought to continue.”
He’ll get lots of sex where he’s going, maybe that’s what he always wanted. If you’re in the joint you don’t have to admit you’re gay, even to yourself.
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Schizophrenia is a very real disease of the brain and its presentation and progression in this case is text book spot on. The only big question was whether he was going to come through to the other side before the big demons got him. It really looks like they got him this time ariunftime.considerng the t he iniatial crisis without terminal damage done and gathering enough sanity via healing experiences — when the arrest record is against the healing effects of when t lucky with around.
I mean
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“” Sometimes nothing. And even if it did, it may not be the cause. Some people have lesions and defects in parts of their brains, genetic propensities towards violence, and are just damaged fucked up people who could not ever be moulded into emotionally balanced people.
The guy Sodini was a loser who got rejected sexually a lot, but even teaching him game at an early stage and giving him the best upbringing may not have been enough; perhaps he wouldn’t kill anyone, but he’d be a weird creepy fuck. “”
What he said.
Some people are just beyond conventional help.
Putting them on the right sort of medication and keeping them away from firearms is probably the best form of damage control.
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Let’s see, this guy made a video of himself burning a flag in the desert (and was a fan of the shitty punk band Anti-Flag), he thought 9/11 was an inside job, and one of his high school classmates says he was a radical pothead … doesn’t sound much like a Dittohead Young Republican.
There’s a real dog-that-didn’t-bark here. Not one person who knew this guy says any of the usual things like “Wow, I can’t imagine he’d ever have done anything bad” or “He wouldn’t hurt a fly” or “He was just a happy gentle guy” or “So tragic — he was just turning his life around”. None of them. Hmmm.
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I want to say one word to you. Just one word.
Benjamin: Yes, sir.
Mr. McGuire: Are you listening?
Benjamin: Yes, I am.
Mr. McGuire: Sexbots.
Benjamin: Just how do you mean that, sir?
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fixed
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No italics nonsense here!
Anyways, I think Loughner solved his lifelong dry spell already. I mean, he’s bound to get flooded with marriage proposals in prison, not unlike Scott Peterson, Richard Ramirez, the Menendez brothers, etc. Who needs game when you’ve killed a bunch of people? Am I right?
Personally, I like freedom, so I’ll continue learning game.
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Oops. Ignore that thing I said about italics.
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[…] Shades Of George Sodini « Citizen Renegade. […]
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No shit, Jordie. One Million Germans bombed by the 8th Air Force would agree. They’d say: “Let Al Queda LIVE!.”
Now, go back to sucking your widdle thumb – like teacher taught you.
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I’m glad that Citizen Renegade is about finding out the ugly truths on this matter and not just about keeping the status quo like Fox news, et al. I’ll have more to say on this later on. Busy week.
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Did that help?
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I suspected that something like this was going on as soon as I heard that he was a 22 year old white guy. I vividly remember how rejection put me on edge at 22. I underwent completely involuntary changes in mood, sleep habits, food appetite, etc.
Fortunately, I’ve always had an excellent support system around me, so this sort of extremism was never on the horizon for me. But I get it.
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“Game is like a midget wearing platform heels.”
That reminds me, meetup at the hate sex dumpster tonight.
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So I think we can all agree that MMG (Mass Murder Game) does NOT work. Right?
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The fact that this man was both evil and psychotic is the least interesting part of the story. What’s interesting is how the undiagnosed insanity of the Ruling Class Media drove them to try to blame conservatives that they hate for this gruesome murder. And then blame conservative commenters for ratcheting up the hateful rhetoric, the very thing they themselves were doing. And then lastly, when backed into a corner by the total lack of any evidence linking this psycho to conservatives, falling back on the old ‘both sides are doing it’ canard, which is also a lie. They just can’t help themselves, they hate Sarah Palin, and any other conservative who is a potential threat to their power, just too much. They don’t even know they are projecting, because their arrogance blinds them.
That’s the interesting part of this story. And rather than a lack of sex, it is probably more correct to say that a lack of normal human interaction drove this nut deeper into insanity. But that too was a choice he made.
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GT wrote: “So I think we can all agree that MMG (Mass Murder Game) does NOT work. Right?”
I’m not as down on MMG as some other people – it certainly worked for Genghis Khan. It largely depends upon one’s appetite for risk, or what I prefer to refer to as “the size of one’s balls.”
The problems with MMG are, obviously, manifold, including, most notably, the likelihood of getting caught and permanently locked away from pussy. But if one manages to get away with MM, the vaginal rewards are probably bountiful, especially among the most extremely wild of chicks, which is the group I prefer to focus on without even having ever considered MMG in my PUA arsenal (I get the same type of chicks, albeit not in bulk due to my financial limitations, simply giving them on average a couple of Benjamins).
Then again, even if one does not get caught and reaps all the positive benefits of MMG, we must remember that doing hot chicks isn’t everything, only about 99.7% of everything. (I used to think it was lower, one of the times I kibbitzed with Ron Jeremy he told me he studies law in his free time, but about three months ago, when I was in a strip club with Ron, he was pretty focused on – and indeed soon thereafter right in the club obtained – sex, so there went that theory).
Still, that 0.3% needs to be taken into consideration. For instance, one will have to have on his conscience that he killed people that, in all likelihood, did not deserve to die, since its hard to pull off a killing of any size – quite arguably that size almost always being just one person – without doing so.
In addition, there is the disgrace to the guy’s family.
Finally, he might end up killing a hot chick, or someone who would have borne a hot chick, and thus potentially deprive some of his bros right here on this sight from doing a hot chick that didn’t live another day. Since I have no intention of using MMG, and I might be the one losing out on sex if someone else uses it, both because one or more hot chicks could die and also since the MMGer might end up getting some pussy at my expense, I’m solidly in the anti-MMG camp. Also, personally, and not to moralize, I think its really, really, really wrong.
But I wouldn’t go so far as to say it doesn’t work.
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goddamn, another instapundit link. R better recheck that book deal.
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My experience with women suggests their are plenty of crazy chicks to meet the needs of crazy dudes. We just need a better way to introduce them.
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Well hell *I* have a history of sexual rejection and I never shot nobody.
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” . . . constant sexual failure tends to reinforce the mental instability. It’s a vicious celibacy feedback loop.”
This is the kind of wisdom that needs to be shared, widely.
Frankly, I don’t care if mental instability ends up as my downfall. As long as women are making a good-faith prophylactic effort to keep me sane, life is good.
“What did Laughner mean by his question, “What is government if words have no meaning?””
In a governmental system based upon the Rule of Law, the only authority – the only authoritative source available to us of the database of what we can and cannot do, of what we should expect from certain circumstances, of what our rights and duties are in our society – are – MUST BE – contained somewhere within pre-existing, publicly available, unchangeable (without proper steps) written words. A system that allows for the Rule of People need not involve codified standards and rules – send Saddam H a purple valentine on one of his bad days and you might find out that, even though he loved purple valentines last year, this year it gets you a ticket to the shredder with no advance warning because now he hates them. Without words, there can be no social contract that characterizes a “Rule of Law” system. A system based on the “Rule of (Wo)Man” depends on after-the-fact whim of a ruler, and so, since no explanations are ever needed, words aren’t necessary.
Or, it was complete gibberish because the guy is so chemically imbalanced as part of his long-term schizophrenia that the communication nugget in that statement is contained in some arcane reading of the rhythm of the sentence in combination with the number of mosquito bites on his head at the time. Schizophrenia means never having to squirrels and bicycle mountain sheep.
Fifty-fifty odds, I’m thinking.
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“Well hell *I* have a history of sexual rejection and I never shot nobody.”
Yet.
Never give up hope.
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This was linked from instapundit. Welcome to quasi mainstream right wing blogosphere, Roissy.
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I think that J. Loughner was surprised to have survived his big adventure. Guys like him, Sodini, and a long list of others are basically trying to commit a form of siucide – that just happens to involve dragging lots of other people into the same pit.
There are a number of individuals who have survived attempted suicide jumps. They have all had the same recollection regarding what they felt as their feet left the bridge-railing. It was, “This is by far the stupidest thing I have ever done.”
Buyer beware.
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-Legalize prostitution.
-It will lower the price.
-Sex workers will be regulated and get regular health screens.
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Yeah, of course- but this guy was so far from getting laid that it’s not even worth thinking about.
On the other hand, since we are blaming his spree on whatever we want, I’m happy to blame it on some stuck up bitches. I think it is safe to say that if some really hot girl had been servicing Jared he would not have shot those people up.
Ｍａｙｂｅ ｗｅ ｓｈｏｕｌｄ press all the really hot girls into service, and make them blow creepy looking loners (me first.) It might cut down on political violence, or at least lead to a more civil political climate.
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I agree, Loughner needed a stuck-up, made-up, augmented shopping addict with long legs and a tight ass to drain his gonads, marry him, break his heart and enslave him to run the hamster-wheel to pay for her vanity and endless Dillards’ runs.
Then, as a worn out, defeated and drained old man he can gladly and quietly go to his grave knowing that he has had the “best” that American femdom can provide any modern male.
Big Al
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Sheesh guys.
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He was also long term unemployed – no doubt a job, some jingle in his pocket and a little poonie would have done him a world of good.
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“It may not be the time to ask but, was Giffords a feminist?”
Well, her husband (Mark Kelly) was scheduled to be the commander of the next space shuttle flight (since been replaced in training by the backup so he can be at her side). Somehow I can’t see a feminist of the virulent variety married to a guy like that.
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Don’t forget, the original reports were that the shooter was an Afghan war veteran. This wasn’t even close! Talk about jumping to a conclusion based on absolutely no evidence. Now, let me ask, who is more willing to believe that war veterans are walking timebombs and more susceptable to this kind of violence (despite overwhelming evedence to the contrary)? I would love to know who started that rumor and the political aflliation of that person.
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Lack of ladies does not give one schizophrenia.
Schizophrenia gives one lack of ladies.
That’s not to say that it doesn’t make any young man, even a schizophrenic, angry and aggressive. I could be persuaded it’s a contributing factor to the aggression of Loughner….
He’s in the subset of schizophrenics most likely to commit violent acts – he has been self-medicating since prodrome with pot and alcohol (etc?) and is a young male.
The answer of course is not to provide him with ladies, but to get the promptest treatment of the schizophrenia and whatever level of supervision and/or confinement is necessary to humanely treat him and protect society from the harm, the disorder which he has high potential to inflict.
His brain is dissolving, quite literally. He not only does not process language normally, he does not think normally and his moral agency, which may yet exist, is compromised by his language and thought disorder.
Time to get serious about removing the threat and treating young schizophrenics more aggressively and earlier, and adding supervision to keep them stabilized to the degree possible.
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Sarah,
why would a lack of ladies lead to more murders?
Would it not lead to more rapes, since rape would “solve” the problem? After all, if a male is constantly rejected by the ladies, then the “solution” is to refuse to take no for an answer.
(I use scare quotes for obvious reasons. Sadly, with one out of four women as victims of sexual assault or attempted sexual assault, too many nithings use this “solution”.)
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The escapism of video games are worse than porn. I had a friend who was a normal young person, who liked girls and life in general before he got addicted to video games. Now he’s a complete psycho.
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My experience with women suggests their are plenty of crazy chicks to meet the needs of crazy dudes. We just need a better way to introduce them.
Co-ed prisions. I’m serious.
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Can we use this as justification to establish a gov’t program to fund sexual dates for teenage boys? Don’t young boys have a ‘right’ to reproductive care in the same/similar manner that everyone has a ‘right’ to health care?
If only there were a gov’t funded program for “reproductive release” then those dead might still be alive.
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Not to let an anecdote get in the way of a sound theory, but, unless she miraculously got better looking between 15 and 21, apparently Loughner had a cute girlfriend when he was 16: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703583404576080122008486168.html?KEYWORDS=loughner
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Lack of women doesn’t necessarily lead to violent rampages. But getting rejected by women can. I don’t mean getting rejected by a random woman in a bar. I mean breaking up with a wife or girlfriend, or being rejected by a woman who they put a lot of effort into.
Men often go on violent rampages after being rejected by a woman who they put lots of effort into. Loughner, for example, recently broke up with his girlfriend. Sodini got kicked out of his church over failed advances to one of the women in the congregation.
If they wanted to help prevent this problem they should have attractive $10 hookers from 3rd world countries on every corner. That would solve the problem.
But that won’t happen in part because unattractive women (used up, past their prime, other men’s kids) don’t want men to have access to easy sex. That would make it harder for them to force men to have long term pay-for-all-the-shit relationships with them.
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“Don’t forget, the original reports were that the shooter was an Afghan war veteran. This wasn’t even close!”
Also, don’t forget the right-wing hyperventilators claiming that the sheriff “ignored death threats made by Loughner as a token of favoritism to Loughner’s mother,” even though those claims sourced back to “some anonymous guy with a blog who offered no evidence for his assertions.”
Also, don’t forget that even though this claim has not checked out (not even close!), right-wingers like Citizen Renegade and the American Spectator have posted no corrections. This failure to correct demonstrates the right-wing pundits’ thoughtful consideration of their readers’ fragile worldview. “Facts” get to stay if they are useful to propping up that worldview; whether they are true is of minor importance.
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that mayor is a nasty piece of work. covering his arse by blaming conservatives. see how the liberal elite had their stories set before the bodies were cold?
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First it was Sodini, then it was Loughner, and now its Gunwitch….
Look people, MMG (Mass Murder Game) DOES NOT WORK!!
Please don’t make me repeat myself, sheesh.
http://www.inmalafide.com/2011/01/07/lock-gunwitch-up-and-throw-away-the-key/
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[…] This was said at Roissy’s blog. I found the next George Sodini. It’s clear that this dude will eventually crack and go on a shooting spree. I will be interested if he decides to kill himself afterward or not. Unlike Loughner he’s much more coherent and lucid. If he survives his shooting spree it will be the first case where an attack of this nature will be defended by its perpetrator with MRA rhetoric, the ideology of losers without game. […]
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Sheriff Dupnick wherever you are tonight. I hope you rot in hell you sack of shit. When loonies tip you off as to what they are about to do then you get OFF your fat chief wiggum ass and investigate.
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