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Science Can’t Stop Proving Me Right

January 21, 2011 by CH

I have contended that married women slowly come to find their husbands less sexually desirable because marriage tames men. Now a study shows that I have the cause and effect at least partially correct:

Researchers have long argued that marriage generally reduces illegal and aggressive behaviors in men. It remained unclear, however, if that association was a function of matrimony itself or whether less “antisocial” men were simply more likely to get married.

The answer, according to a new study led by a Michigan State University behavior geneticist, appears to be both.

In the December issue of the Archives of General Psychiatry, online today, S. Alexandra Burt and colleagues found that less antisocial men were more likely to get married. Once they were wed, however, the marriage itself appeared to further inhibit antisocial behavior.

If you want to keep your marriage hot and heavy, maintain a dark triad edge: think highly of yourself, break the rules, and occasionally lie for the hell of it. She’ll swoon all over again.

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Adding another piece to the ovulatory cycle puzzle, researchers have found that women with beta partners fantasize about masculine men when they’re fertile, but women with alpha partners do not.

When their romantic partners are not quintessentially masculine, women in their fertile phase are more likely to fantasize about masculine-looking men than are women paired with George Clooney types.

But women with masculine-looking partners do not necessarily become more attracted to their partners, a recent study co-authored by a University of Colorado at Boulder researcher concludes.

This supports the theory that alpha males can afford to slip up and act beta once in a while without suffering the same consequences that a diehard betaboy would. The infrequent beta backslide won’t help the alpha, but it won’t hurt him either. So if you are a beta, you had better ramp up your asshole game during your lover’s fertility window.

The same study shows that idiocracy is in full effect:

Meanwhile, a man’s intelligence has no effect on the extent to which fertile, female partners fantasize about others, the researchers found. They say the lack of an observed “fertility effect” related to intelligence is puzzling.

It should be no surprise to anyone who’s lived a day that a disconcertingly high number of naturals are also some of the dumbest men. Living outside your head like an animal running on instinct does wonders for your game.

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As if feminism needed to be discredited even further:

Here, we present the first evidence of sex differences in use of play objects in a wild primate, in chimpanzees (Pan troglodytes). We find that juveniles tend to carry sticks in a manner suggestive of rudimentary doll play and, as in children and captive monkeys, this behavior is more common in females than in males.

To be a self-proclaimed feminist today is akin to proudly announcing your membership in the Flat Earth Society. The rancid, dimwitted ideology fuels itself strictly on feel-good emotions.

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Remember all that brouhaha about marriage being good for a man’s health? It’s bullshit.

Long relationships – not necessarily marriage – key to good health.

Men and women who are in relationships for longer than five years are less likely to be depressed, to consider or attempt suicide, or to be dependent on alcohol or drugs, it was found.

It is well known that people who are married lead healthier lives and live longer but it was not known if the effect was the same for those cohabiting.

The study in the British Journal of Psychiatry examined 1,000 people living in New Zealand by a team at University of Otago.

It was found that longer relationships were associated with lower rates of mental health problems.

Haters often stumble onto the Chateau grounds and run around in circles like headless chickens accusing the proprietors of advocating a pump and dump lifestyle. Their lack of reading comprehension, combined with their compulsion to wish the worst motives of their enemies, leads them into a patchwork of lies and self-deceit. Even a cursory reading of the posts here should tell them that no host at the Chateau denigrates LTRs. We save the denigration for marriage. While pump and dumps are excellent appetizers, the love and intimacy of a relationship is a pleasure unto itself.

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Social constructivists and cultural hegemonists often engage in the logical fallacy of “where’s the gene?” missing link-ism. That is, they like to claim that since no one gene has yet been found to affect, say, intelligence, it must be the case that intelligence is not primarily genetically influenced. But evidence shows that multiple genes act in concert to produce single human traits.

As much as 90 percent of variation in adult height may be caused by genetic inheritance, but a multitude of genes are involved. Most of these have yet to be discovered.

Now a new meta-analysis of data from more than 100,000 people has identified variants in over two dozen genes that were not previously associated with height. The study also confirmed genetic associations in more than 30 previously known height genes.

If multiple synchronizing genes are needed to affect a relatively simple trait like height, it stands to reason that a veritable smorgasbord of genes influence brain architecture in ways we have barely begun to unravel. David Brooks wept.

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Married women lose interest in sex because their husbands become — to put it succinctly — emasculated.

In this study, the authors conducted open-ended interviews with 19 married women who had lost desire in their marriage and asked what causal attributions they made for their loss of sexual desire and what barriers they perceived to be blocking its reinstatement. Three core themes emerged from the data, all of which represented forces dragging down on sexual desire in the present sample: (a) institutionalization of the relationship, (b) over-familiarity, and (c) the de-sexualization of roles in these relationships. Interpersonal and intrapersonal sexual dynamics featured more prominently than did relationship problems in women’s attributions.

Reread this study for the full implication. Decades of milquetoasty marriage counselor and couples therapist advice exposed for the feminist orthodoxy sham it is in a single blow! Luckily, since you are a reader of this esteemed blog dedicated to the pursuit of truth no matter how unsavory, you already know that the way to rescue a failing marriage is to learn and apply game the same as you would to girls if you were a single man on the prowl.

Chicks, married or not, dig gender polarity. They want you to be unpredictable, unavailable and untamed. Marriage by its nature works against those three alpha male traits, eventually robbing the wife of her id-oiled desire to consume her husband’s cock. Much like a wife who gets fat, a husband who does not actively push back against the emasculating tide of married life is increasing the odds she will pull a Cindy and lose all her love for him.

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If being an alpha male is so great, why aren’t all men alpha? Probably because it shortens your life.

A study of chimpanzees has revealed that dominant animals with higher testosterone levels tend to suffer from an increased burden of parasites. Researchers writing in BioMed Central’s open access journal BioPsychoSocial Medicine observed the primates’ behavior and studied their droppings to draw the link between dominance and infection status.

Michael Muehlenbein from Indiana University and David Watts from Yale University, USA, carried out the study in 22 male animals at Kibale National Park, Uganda. According to Muehlenbein, “Acquisition and maintenance of high dominance rank often involves frequent aggression, and testosterone has been considered the quintessential physiological moderator of such behavior. However, testosterone also causes suppression of the immune system”.

If you had to choose between living a 50 year lifespan as an alpha male who beds hundreds of beautiful women and living a 200 year lifespan as a beta male who has one ten year LTR with a plain jane, which would you choose?

Same question to the ladies. 50 year lifespan hopping in and out of bed with hundreds of alpha males versus 200 year lifespan with one devoted beta in a, say, 20 year LTR. Reaction time is a factor.

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Contra Robin Hanson, were foragers more or less violent than farmers? A tenet of the forager thesis is that foragers (read: cosmopolitan liberals) are less violent than their farmer (read: family values conservatives) counterparts. Evidence shows that our forager cousins were a very violent bunch of killers, indeed.

In a cave in Northern Spain, researchers have discovered clues to the identity of the victims of a mass murder committed 49,000 years ago. The butchered bones of 12 men, women, and children protruding from the floor may be the remains of an extended Neandertal family that were killed and eaten by their fellow Neandertals.

Today the liberal manifests his violent tendencies verbally, and in papier maché effigies. Strident advocacy for open borders is a form of soft genocide, so you could chalk that up to leftie violence as well.

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Via Audacious E, women who get around before marriage continue getting around once married. From the General Social Survey:

Not surprisingly, women with high sex drives who got around a lot before they married are more likely to continue getting around after taking their vows. The same applies in non-marital relationships. If your girl has a lot of sexual history (and likes to talk about it), don’t go in desiring any kind of serious or long-term relationship. You’re in pump and dump territory.

If you were limited to reading only five posts from the Chateau blog, this post would have to be one of them. It may save you a costly divorce someday. Or it may show you the path to easier lays.

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  1. on January 21, 2011 at 1:18 pm Schmoe

    Maybe the “increased volume of parasites” are sexually transmitted.

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  2. on January 21, 2011 at 1:19 pm chi-town

    That would explain why my play acting the dirty man on the bus worked so well.

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  3. on January 21, 2011 at 1:24 pm OhioStater

    You should check out the movie Blue Valentine.

    Steve Sailer quote: “When she gets back to her beta hubby waiting patiently for her in the minivan, she immediately starts an argument.”

    http://takimag.com/article/blue_valentine_and_the_decline_of_men

    It reads like Steve Sailer joined the Chateau!

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  4. on January 21, 2011 at 1:30 pm Firepower

    If you want to keep your marriage hot and heavy, maintain a dark triad edge: think highly of yourself, break the rules, and occasionally lie for the hell of it. She’ll swoon all over again.

    yep – I personally scared away four independent, totally empowered grrl bloggrs! ™ by just mentioning the word “peenie” and “thingy”

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  5. on January 21, 2011 at 1:31 pm Begby

    “It should be no surprise to anyone who’s lived a day that a disconcertingly high number of naturals are also some of the dumbest men. Living outside your head like an animal running on instinct does wonders for your game.”

    got a stark reminder of this last night as I watched a lovely african american man with three ghetto hoochies swooning over his every move, literally whooping at the top of his lungs like a gorilla, in a crowded shopping area. No reason to do it, just monkeying around, hooting and hollering like a bull elk trying to impress a mate. It fucking worked.

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  6. on January 21, 2011 at 1:32 pm Firepower

    OhioStater

    It reads like Steve Sailer joined the Chateau!

    or at least
    plagiarizes
    …off of it

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  7. on January 21, 2011 at 1:33 pm Bob

    Not seeing how alphas shortening their life would possibly increase the number of betas. Evolution doesn’t select for long lifespan unless that lifespan grants more time to have kids. It selects for fecundity only, all else being a means to that end.

    A beta living 80 years and having three kids is going to have less effect on the gene pool than a 20 year old alpha with eight cave-babymamas. Then you get the *real* alphas like Genghis Khan.

    If I had to guess, the reason there are betas is because we’re heirarchal animals. Group selection comes into play – the most likely set of genes to survives would be those whose owners work as a group. A handful of alphas can lead a horde of betas, easy; a whole tribe of alphas is going to kill itself.

    Historically, those betas would have had the threat of violence to keep their women in line – that threat being something every man had, not just devil-may-care alpha thugs – and had some assurance the kids were theirs (probably more assurance than we have in the age of birth control). Or, they would have raided other tribes for their women, if there weren’t enough to go around (good investment of an alpha leader’s time).

    I would hesitate to say that alphaness is relative, given that with sufficiently high testosterone a man will challenge any authority, even a much more alpha one. It’s gotta be the cumulative effect of beta mate-guarding over the millenia.

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  8. on January 21, 2011 at 1:42 pm namae nanka

    “If you had to choose between living a 50 year lifespan as an alpha male who beds hundreds of beautiful women and living a 200 year lifespan as a beta male who has one ten year LTR with a plain jane, which would you choose?”

    The more disinfected a society becomes, rather have a suppressed immune system and of course lower chances of suicide. beta has lower risk of STD on his side.

    and women losing desire in sex after marriage? it should be sex with their husbands lol

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  9. on January 21, 2011 at 1:48 pm anonymous

    It’s ironic that a man who tries to support his personal life decisions with “science” has so little knowledge in basic biology and scientific study.

    [Editor: Tries? Supports? You sound confused. My life decisions are the result of calculations of self-interest.]

    The twin study indicated “an initial _selection_ effect, whereby men with lower levels of antisocial behavior are more likely to marry. However, this tendency to refrain from antisocial behavior appears to be _accentuated_ by the state of marriage.”

    There was no conclusion whether the truancy, running away, fights, weapons, forced sex, lying, stealing,cruelty to animals, cruelty to people, fire-setting, etc. employment firings, lack of remorse, etc had any effect on the duration of marriage

    Good advise to married men: start a fight at work, set your dog on fire, to see the effect upon your marriage.

    [Hyperbole, heal thyself.]

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  10. on January 21, 2011 at 1:49 pm Anonymous

    Title says it all… check it out.

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  11. on January 21, 2011 at 1:49 pm askjoe

    The existence of betas has been covered by this blog before. Betas organized and formed functioning, high tech societies, with great armies and navies with complex social rules that valued monogamy and ensured that even greater omegas would have a married lifetime pumping out kids.

    That is why, in some respects, the whole are lib fags beta or alpha argument is off target. It’s similar to the warrior or a soldier debate.

    Killing for mom, apple pie, and the flag may be alpha but doing so preserves a society that helps betas procreate. not that there’s anything wrong with that. Most men have been denied the chance to raise their own kid throughout history. The anglo-sphere changed that.

    When feminists and communists killed western society (as in the past tense), women fell into their preferred society of alpha chasing polyamoury. The hosts take advantage of this new dynamic.

    It seems that most women don’t care for wealth or intelligence, they’re happy to live in shit-hole hovels in shit-hole countries as long as they get a chance at the right dick.

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  12. on January 21, 2011 at 1:55 pm (r)Evolutionary

    Bob’s comments are headed in the right direction.

    Truth is, high serum Testosterone is protective and enlivening of so many systems–it’s cardioprotective, neuroprotective, bone mass conserving. T really is a wonder drug.

    The parasite argument is full of holes. Not all parasitic infections are a bad deal for the host. Some parasites confer adaptation to the host–anti-inflammatory properties, pain-modulating qualities, enhanced clearance of certain waste products. There is a line of parasites used to treat asthma, because of the anti-inflammatory and vasodilatory molecules produced by the parasites, as well as the immunomodulation.

    Too much immune function can be as bad as too little–it’s the hyper-immune reaction that kills, not the disease, in things like Avian flu, meningitis, etc. So I’m far from convinced alphas live shorter lives necessarily.

    The math is such that a small but significant portion of the alpha population dies young–in accidents from high risk behavior, in battle, etc. Another subset lives very long lives, and the average of the two skews a bit lower than betas.

    Long live the King!

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  13. on January 21, 2011 at 2:04 pm anonymous

    With the New Zeland study, CR again over-reaches.

    The study included only 30 year olds, and only those with a maximal 5 year relationship.

    No information on health status with long-term married status was studied.

    [Editor: Hi anony.]

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  14. on January 21, 2011 at 2:06 pm Southern Man

    The power of Game cannot be underestimated. After her mom moved to Kansas last summer, my high-school-aged daughter moved in with me so she could finish high school here. She’s a typical self-centered moody teen and our relationship since the divorce – about four years – had been nonexistent. I have agressively applied basic Game principles to my daughter, with extraordinary results. And when I slip back into my natural beta provider / daddy mode, the relationship falters. Ditto for her mom – I don’t bow to her every whim or do much of anything she asks, but demand much from her; in other words, pretty much the opposite of who I was in the marriage. Last time we met (to exchange daughters for the weekend) she bitched about her (beta) new husband and wistfully said “Why did I divorce you again?” Because of this blog, I’ve learned more about how to handle the women in my life in the last year than in the previous fifty. GAME WORKS, BITCHES.

    As to the 50/200 choice, I’d go for 200. Women are just not that important, but I’d love to have an extra century to see my mission fulfilled to its fullest potential.

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  15. on January 21, 2011 at 2:22 pm (r)Evolutionary

    Southern Man,

    Great comment. I’ve been applying game principles to business, as well as to other non-sexual relationships… and yes.. it’s the Jedi path, clearly.

    I like your comment re the 50/200 choice.

    I’d take 200 too, for the same reasons…. but hell, why not apply game all the way?

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  16. on January 21, 2011 at 2:23 pm whiskey

    The problem with Alphas is that Betas (outside of the US and modern Western legal system) can kill them. Human Alphas are not like chimp Alphas. The lowest of the low, or lowest woman, can use spears, arrows, poison, knives, fire, and any number of weapons to kill from a distance.

    In a hostile environment, with threats from other tribes/peoples, cooperation including Beta traits are key, as are definite limits to Alphas. The Mongols fell not least of which was fighting amongst themselves (over women, mostly).

    Selection for intelligence obviously happened amongst Ashkenazi Jews, North-Western Europeans, and NE Asians. Likely due to severe social pressure for providers amidst no welfare state.

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  17. on January 21, 2011 at 2:35 pm Ovid

    Selection for intelligence obviously happened amongst Ashkenazi Jews, North-Western Europeans, and NE Asians. Likely due to severe social pressure for providers amidst no welfare state

    Whiskey, you’re a dithering idiot. Kindly go easy on the Neocon propaganda; even the strongest of stomachs can take only so much.

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  18. on January 21, 2011 at 2:37 pm Lara

    I would take the longer lifespan with the beta, but I wouldn’t plan on being faithful to him.

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  19. on January 21, 2011 at 2:44 pm askjoe

    first, dipshit, “neo-con” is slur against jewish foreign policy hawks, HBD has nothing to do with it. I understand that Whiskey has violated the new tone with his hate-fact, so let’s just agree that God made us all equal in dignity if not in ability.

    Anyway, the femininity is a construct meme by the feminists didn’t even have to look at primates. That Panda bear in DC was observed playing with dolls in a motherly fashion when she was fertile.

    The marriage advice to “be a bigger pussy” seems to jibe with other lefty twinky diet recipes for disaster (i.e., if you don’t lose weight eating twinkies on the twinky diet, you need to eat more twinkies to make it work).

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  20. on January 21, 2011 at 2:55 pm itsme

    I would take the longer lifespan with the beta, but I wouldn’t plan on being faithful to him.

    this insight into the nature of woman is so frank that i am having difficulty believing you’re a woman.

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  21. on January 21, 2011 at 3:01 pm SN2

    @Lara

    Not even a lower omega would want to get within 50 meters of your 165 year old pussy???

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  22. on January 21, 2011 at 3:21 pm Anonymous

    Off-topic, sorta, but remember He Man and the Masters of the Universe (syndicated afternoon cartoons in the ’80s, sports fans)… well, here’s He Man if it were realistic (or at least better written for our purposes here):

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  23. on January 21, 2011 at 3:36 pm College Slacker

    Regarding the final study: I feel sorry for all those suckers who will end up marrying many of the girls I know here at school. The carousel is in full effect in college America, don’t let anyone tell you otherwise. This isn’t even necessarily strictly an alpha carousel- even betas can get laid, though usually it involves a bit of dumpster diving and shame on the girl’s part the next morning. The fact of the matter is, easily 70-80% of girls graduating from college these days have had at least 5 different sexual partners, and a solid 30% of those girls graduating have had much, much more. Woe be to anyone planning to marry from my generation.

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  24. on January 21, 2011 at 3:49 pm Begby

    I’d like to see science delve into the question of why a slutty woman provokes a visceral feeling of disgust in the opposite gender, while a promiscuous man promotes a feeling of desire and admiration in the opposite sex.

    Just like the false blank slatism of ‘gender is a social construct’, another false plank of feminism is that there is an unreasonable double-standard regarding whores and playboys.

    We in the HBD/evo-psych realm see the obvious answer but I want to see it studied, verified, and published widely.

    I think the only way to defeat the feminists is through unrelenting scientific studies into human nature. Most SWPL White Knights fancy themselves the enlightened class, guided by facts and science, so it will be harder for them to ignore nature’s obvious truths when there is a study somewhere to back it up.

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  25. on January 21, 2011 at 4:12 pm chi-town

    @Begby

    What more do they need? Men have parental uncertainty while women don’t. Add to that: The more slutty women are in a culture, the more likely men who invest in them will drop their worm into a coo coo. Slutty women = good for cads and bad for dads. That is why men report great sex hate the women. The hate is meant to drive men away from a maladaptive tendency to invest in slutty women. Hating slutty women after you are done with them is adaptive.

    Whats to become of a car with no locks on it? Who is looking to buy? Its great for a free ride.

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  26. on January 21, 2011 at 4:17 pm old guy

    @Bob

    “the reason there are betas is because we’re heirarchal animals. ”

    The reason we have Betas is because somebody has to raise my kids.

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  27. on January 21, 2011 at 4:26 pm askjoe

    The rumination of the beta-state, the pre-feminist anglo-sphere led me down this road. So, every man and women gets more or less shacked up, including a lot of betas and omegas who would be – as old man points out – raising someone else’s kid in any other society.

    So, on one hand, the male’s potential for caddishness is diluted by some societal structures but he knows that there’re millions of women out there that he’ll never sex up, but at least he has stability and got to have kids. The girl married to the beta likewise knows there are more alpha guys she’ll never get to bed, but at least she has stability and kids.

    But see what happens when showbiz brought the pretty boys to a town near you. See the women unleash themselves, like those girls screaming at the Beatles. The call of the alpha (preselection, talent, fame, whatever it was) made them hysterical, screaming and yelling, trying to sneak backstage. I think that men are a little more dignified when high status girls come around.

    Hard to keep the girls on the farm when there are rock stars to bed

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  28. on January 21, 2011 at 4:35 pm Tim

    I would take the longer lifespan with the beta, but I wouldn’t plan on being faithful to him.

    Does that mean your husband is alpha…the same guy whom you once wrote shovels the snow in your driveway at dawn and then brings you breakfast in bed?

    Also, and I think you speak for many women, why would you want a beta for twenty years, and some flings with alphas? Why not just choose the flings with alphas, and have the rest of the time for yourself? Can women just not handle being alone, ever?

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  29. on January 21, 2011 at 4:36 pm Anonymous

    College Slacker said: “I feel sorry for all those suckers who will end up marrying many of the girls I know here at school. … The fact of the matter is, easily 70-80% of girls graduating from college these days have had at least 5 different sexual partners, and a solid 30% of those girls graduating have had much, much more. Woe be to anyone planning to marry from my generation.”

    Dude, it was bad 20 years ago (girls bed-hopping from “he’s a lot of fun” douchebag to “he’s a lot of fun” douchebag, then trying to marry and convert one to Joe Hubby during Senior Year) but this just sucks now… waah, but he’s not treating me like sh*t enough, where are all the good men?!

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  30. on January 21, 2011 at 4:37 pm Workshy Joe

    Science for the win.

    I’m a little puzzled over Alpha life expectancy though. Chimp studies in the past had correlated higher status with longer life expectancy – not shorter.

    Two mechansims at work there, I suppose.

    1. Lower status is correlated with higher stress hormones.
    2. Higher status is correlated with higher testosterone which can be immunosuppressive.

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  31. on January 21, 2011 at 4:40 pm Grendel

    Science vindicates sexual difference like it does racial differences.

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  32. on January 21, 2011 at 4:42 pm Mark

    Has anybody ever visited a blog known as “Anglobitch”?

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  33. on January 21, 2011 at 4:43 pm Mark

    You know guys… I’m a total neophyte with women… so I was wondering if any of you could answer a question of mine…

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  34. on January 21, 2011 at 4:44 pm itsme

    I think the only way to defeat the feminists is through unrelenting scientific studies into human nature. Most SWPL White Knights fancy themselves the enlightened class, guided by facts and science, so it will be harder for them to ignore nature’s obvious truths when there is a study somewhere to back it up.

    they are only conditionally guided by facts and science though. the condition is that the facts and science must not be in contradiction to their agendas. same with feminists – you can present them all the data and studies you want, but they’ll find some way to cry foul.

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  35. on January 21, 2011 at 4:45 pm Mark

    Is anybody listening here or am I talking to a brick wall?

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  36. on January 21, 2011 at 4:46 pm Anonymous

    So according to the study being antisocial is manly and woman want antisocial men. Alpha = antisocial. (Or are we missing something?)

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  37. on January 21, 2011 at 4:47 pm Ovid

    “first, dipshit, “neo-con” is slur against jewish foreign policy hawks, HBD has nothing to do with it. I understand that Whiskey has violated the new tone with his hate-fact, so let’s just agree that God made us all equal in dignity if not in ability.”

    I didn’t say anything about god or about us all being equal. I simply make bold to aver that NW Europeans, Ashkenazis and NE Asians don’t have higher IQ’s than other European peoples and sub-groups. It’s propaganda. And it is intimately related to political matters. Matters especially dear to Neo-cons.

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  38. on January 21, 2011 at 4:50 pm Mark

    I met this girl, you see. She’s about 19 or so, petite, a blonde… I’m in my early thirties.

    Anyway, I had a good time with. Don’t know if I’ll see her again, though. I’m guessing it was the rather limp dick fuck I gave her the night over at her place, not sure. In order to fuck her, I had to force my dick in with my fingers (I haven’t fucked in years)… I hope I’m not being too candid? She did say it was good. When it was over, I asked for her #, she never gave it to me, but asked for mine… I accidentally gave her my old #.

    My question… should I still seek this girl out or forget it?

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  39. on January 21, 2011 at 4:53 pm Mark

    Absolutely charming, attractive girl to say the least, would be positively horrid to let her go. Said she had an MA in criminal law, but her lack of arrogance made me suspicious. I’m thinking it might be wiser to let it go…

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  40. on January 21, 2011 at 4:57 pm Mark

    Did have a good time with though. I was thoroughly entertained that entire night I was with her. Have never been around a more entertaining and personable girl. She never gave me her number, but asked for mine and I gave her the wrong one. Not sure if this is worth pursuing.

    Any help would be nice?!

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  41. on January 21, 2011 at 5:03 pm Gorbachev

    Foragers are notoriously the most violent of all human groups. This was true 6000 years ago, too. The Sumerians described hunter-gatherers (“men in skins who ate no grain and had no cities”) as distinct from pastoralists (herders of animals). These people were much more violent and less trustworthy than the herders or the city-dwellers.

    The anarchist society liberals would create would be great for natural philosophers. Alas, there are so few natural philosophers.

    The first alpha male or alpha female will make such an idyll a hell.

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  42. on January 21, 2011 at 5:03 pm itsme

    Can women just not handle being alone, ever?

    i think they can’t.

    how many times have you heard a pissed off girl say to a guy ‘you’re going to be alone forever!’ in an attempt to shame/hurt him? compare that to the number of times you’ve heard a man say that to a woman. a woman says that like it is the worst possible thing that could ever happen to anyone. a man just doesn’t say that at all.

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  43. on January 21, 2011 at 5:05 pm Grendel

    Mark why haven’t you got more sluts??? Forget that slut with the pretend MA and go get some different noob sluts.

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  44. on January 21, 2011 at 5:23 pm peckerwood

    mark, there be two views, one being good in bed doesn’t matter…others go more viking and say rock that world. either way, the only way a misfire hurts you is to act like a bitch about it. Just say damn, I drank to much,

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  45. on January 21, 2011 at 5:26 pm Doug1

    Sorry, posted the above in the wrong thread. Was talking about the Blue Valentine movie.

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  46. on January 21, 2011 at 5:40 pm aoefe

    “the love and intimacy of a relationship is a pleasure onto itself.”

    Nicely said and something I’ve seen in the writing here since I stumbled onto the blog. I also know that what you write about women is true and sometimes to my embarrassment as woman. That said it’s given me a much greater understanding of myself and my dating ‘issues’.

    I’ve had opportunities to totally beta-it (not to be confused with MJ’s beat it) and be in a long term dealie-o-so, but I have a complete inability to want to do so. There’s a good chance I’ll remain single because of that choice and I have some acceptance of it. I am currently dating an alpha who seems to want the love and intimacy of relationship however his ability to trade up is great – perhaps I’ve learned enough here to know what works in a man’s mind. I will NOT shit test…okay I’ll TRY not to. 😉

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  47. on January 21, 2011 at 5:40 pm Doug1

    Three core themes emerged from the data, all of which represented forces dragging down on sexual desire in the present sample: (a) institutionalization of the relationship, (b) over-familiarity, and (c) the de-sexualization of roles in these relationships. Interpersonal and intrapersonal sexual dynamics featured more prominently than did relationship problems in women’s attributions.

    One problem is that two of the three factors listed are inevitable in any marriage after awhile, including to an alpha who remains that to his wife and games her. Though the last sentence does make it seem like (c) is most important.

    A related problem is that it seems that at least for most people and I’d say especially most women, the passionate or “smitten” period of love only last for so long. Anthropologist Helen Fisher, who’s made the study of the different phases of love and it’s association with neurochemicals, says it generally lasts when it occurs 6-24 months, sometimes longer. I’d say from other studies and Michelle Langely’s work that it rarely lasts longer than 4 years.

    The lust phase kicks in quickly and comes and goes, or sometimes flickers out. The commitment stage of love can come after 1 to 3 years and can last a lifetime, or not. This involves identifying with your partner, feeling comfortable together with shared goals, and putting their interests at similar importance to your own, as partly a conscious decision, and partly an instinctual one.

    Much in American culture tells women who’ve gotten commitment from a man and often children, that once the passion stage has definitely seriously waned, they needn’t return commitment, especially if there are any problems at all in the marriage, but often even if they’re not, other than the fading of passion.

    That in addition to divorce laws and courts is what’s so bad and one way after awhile about marriage in America these days for men.

    http://www.practicalpickup.com/the-three-loves

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  48. on January 21, 2011 at 5:42 pm NYCBachelor

    The problem with Alphas is that Betas (outside of the US and modern Western legal system) can kill them. Human Alphas are not like chimp Alphas. The lowest of the low, or lowest woman, can use spears, arrows, poison, knives, fire, and any number of weapons to kill from a distance.

    I’ve given this considerable thought as well.

    What I’ve concluded is that human social structure has changed the way in which dominance must be expressed if the Alpha wants to reap the benefits of said behavior- its no longer possible for Alphas to merely physically dominate other males to impress females for the purposes of mating- Alpha proxies and civilized codes prevent it; for example, MMA fighters can’t go around punching guys and mounting the girlfriends on top of their knocked out bodies, the cops and courts are there to punish (and consequently prevent via fear) this from occuring. (See “The Rawness” for a post on how only poor/rich people can ignore the proxies for more details)

    Given this context the best an Alpha, or aspiring Alpha, can do is exploit the Alpha proxie’s punishment of physcial retalitation via non-physical dominence displays that would, in the state of nature, provoke a physical response. The Alpha can thus appear Alpha without actually having to fight for it- the cops/court system are there to intimidate would-be competitors into doing the “smart thing” and walking away.

    The female hindbrain, being a simple hamster seeking simple answers, is incapable of making a distinction between fear of Alpha proxy and fear of the Alpha exhibiting the Alpha behavior- so it interprets lack of physical response of other males as fear of the Alpha- and thus fires up the lust circuits for the Alpha exhibiting this behavior.

    Behaviors include:
    Physical non-violent dominence displays (hands ontop of another male’s shoulders, patting/rubbing head/hair of a sitting male, etc)
    General Rudeness
    Insults directed at other males (who have too much to lose to physically retaliate)
    Belittling those of less social status
    Assuming higher Social Status automatically among annonymous strangers

    What do we call someone who does these things?

    Asshole.

    The REAL answer however lies in WHY we call them an Asshole.

    The asshole label has two main functions.

    It firstly functions as a saftety valve for the frustrated males who are the victims of said behaviors- it allows them to perform mental reclassification of the social heirarchy, within their own heads, where they are designated as superior to the male exhibiting the behavior of superiority-
    and thus convince themselves that no physical reciprosity is needed- since they are “better” then the asshole anyway (since asshole = bad). This is entirely an ego saving mental device and contradicted by objective evidence (the asshole gets to act how he wants, gets what he wants, and gets the loving attention of the females as a result- sounds like a winning move to me)

    The second is that it functions as a social shaming mechanism. By labeling these behaviors as “bad” it keeps the betas in their place- they dare not become “Assholes” are because assholes are “bad” and they don’t want others to think they are “bad”.

    The Betas convince themselves that the objective evidence of the social inferiority is direct evidence of their social superiority while simultaneously reinforcing their desire to be a social inferior (since this makes them “good”). (This is a brilliant concept- I think I’m going to call this phenomena Gerbiling*)

    This is so brilliant I couldn’t help but think that it almost seems like a conspiracy by the Alpha “assholes” to keep the Betas/Niceguys in their place while making them happy about it- and then it struck me- that’s exactly what it is. The whole “Asshole” label is nothing but the Slave/Altrustic morality writ large; Weakness and Meakness are moral superiority while personally benefitting and getting what you want are signs of “moral” inferiority!

    In other words- You’re better then me because I get what I want and you don’t… HAHAHAHA brilliance indeed!

    Many posters are going to argue that “Assholes” are “paper alphas”- since they don’t have the ability to back up their claims to the Alpha throne with power of their own; their merely exploiting alpha proxies to appear Alpha. I say this is irrelevant in that this line of thought is a completely intellectual exercise- yes technically you are right- but the asshole still gets to life an almost aristrocratic lifestyle on the backs of his social lessers- so from his perspective what does it matter?

    I also disagree in that asshole behavior is alpha in and of itself. It invokes two of the three parts of the dark triad

    1. Narcisism: asshole behavior shows you think you’re better then those around you- its why their calling you an asshole! Damn you and your Master Morality Behavior Asshole!
    2. Impulsiveness/Rule breaking: Self explainitory- an asshole, by definition, is someone who breaks the rules in what seems like an impulsive fashion.
    3. Deceit- not really relevant.

    Assholishness also shows that you have the ability to ACT on your narcissism and TAKE the social position you desire with nothing but your Will and cleverness in taking advantage of and soceity’s fear of Alpha proxies (in case you run across another Alpha who dosen’t buy into the Slave morality of “being the better man”….).

    (Writer’s footnote: In was very interesting writing this post- consolidating various thoughts I’ve had for sometime has left me feeling like I’ve just pulled the wool out of my own eyes regarding “Assholes”- they are genuine Alphas despite their lessors claims to the contrary)

    * Gerbiling: When Betas convince themselves that the objective evidence of the social inferiority is direct evidence of their social/moral superiority while simultaneously reinforcing their desire to be a social inferior.

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  49. on January 21, 2011 at 5:49 pm Doug1

    aoefe–

    I am currently dating an alpha who seems to want the love and intimacy of relationship however his ability to trade up is great – perhaps I’ve learned enough here to know what works in a man’s mind. I will NOT shit test…okay I’ll TRY not to. 😉

    Certain kinds of limited shit testing is ok, so long as it’s not nagging etc. But honey is generally way better.

    One way to handle this is to not demand promises of exclusivity now, but just make time with you great for him. And in fact, as I’ve said before, a girl’s letting an alpha play some while paying you lots of attention, will really raise her overall LTR SMV. You can sexualize your jealousy through a degree of emotional masochism, and he can help you do that.

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  50. on January 21, 2011 at 5:49 pm NYCBachelor

    Asshole: One who exploits soceities alpha proxies to assume social status when anonymous

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  51. on January 21, 2011 at 5:51 pm whorefinder

    Where is that beta bitch GLC from yesterday, ready to spring into action to “prove” that all these studies show is that we’re not good enough for women long term?

    That, and how brilliant Obama is…

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  52. on January 21, 2011 at 5:55 pm Doug1

    NYCBachelor–

    That was a very interesting bit of analysis. Maybe a tad over intellectualized, but I think you’re right.

    A real contribution.

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  53. on January 21, 2011 at 5:58 pm Good Luck Chuck

    NYC-

    Excellent breakdown. I think you were channeling Rollo in part of that post. When you coming back around my part of the hood?

    whorefinder-

    Go back to banging hookers and leave the game, politics, and life commentary to the adults.

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  54. on January 21, 2011 at 6:04 pm GasButtox

    aoefebuttox,

    It will be your honor and privilege to….

    …..(wait for it, wait for it)…….

    Detox my Buttox.

    -GB

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  55. on January 21, 2011 at 6:08 pm Southern Man

    Speaking as a scientist:

    Science cannot prove you right. Science can only prove you wrong.

    That said, I like these “science” posts. Please keep ’em coming.

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  56. on January 21, 2011 at 6:12 pm NYCBachelor

    It also occured to me that the best way (ie least risky) way to be an asshole is to deliberately target beta males for your alpha displays.

    Spotting a nerd/beta/hipster* should be like blood in the water- let it activate your Alpha killer instincts.

    Exploit the Gerbil.

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  57. on January 21, 2011 at 6:12 pm narciso

    from the original —

    It should be no surprise to anyone who’s lived a day that a disconcertingly high number of naturals are also some of the dumbest men. Living outside your head like an animal running on instinct does wonders for your game.

    well, sure. or, from the opposite perspective, a key feature of intelligence is that it allows one to sublimate primal instincts, for whatever perceived indirect or long-term benefit.

    in other words, it’s a double-edged sword: the same intelligence that gives people the forbearance to, say, avoid gorging on high-calorie junk food (another primal instinct, honed throughout eons of privation) will also give them grounds for sublimating their sexual instincts.

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  58. on January 21, 2011 at 6:13 pm NYCBachelor

    Women also tend to feed the Gerbil as well. They WANT it well fed- it keeps the betas in their place.

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  59. on January 21, 2011 at 6:19 pm NYCBachelor

    Gerbiling also has the conotation of being the sexual act where a rodent is inserted into a homosexual man’s ass…. This is entirely appropriate since Betas are metaphorically taking it in the ass when they tolerate being tooled by an Alpha.

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  60. on January 21, 2011 at 6:20 pm Anonymous

    NYCBachelor said: “It also occured to me that the best way (ie least risky) way to be an asshole is to deliberately target beta males for your alpha displays.”

    Hence bullying, they don’t pick someone who might fight back (even if they could probably kick his ass) but only people who cry and flail around stupidly.

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  61. on January 21, 2011 at 6:23 pm narciso

    NYCB

    The Betas convince themselves that the objective evidence of the social inferiority is direct evidence of their social superiority while simultaneously reinforcing their desire to be a social inferior (since this makes them “good”). (This is a brilliant concept- I think I’m going to call this phenomena Gerbiling*)

    this is weighty stuff, but don’t forget another confounding variable that plays into this.
    namely, one hallmark of betas — perhaps THE hallmark of betas — is that they can find or limn some sort of personal satisfaction out of just about any situation.

    betas are high-satisfaction people, more or less regardless of the situation.
    alphas are high-discontent people, more or less regardless of the situation.

    betas in miserable marriages, for instance, are often still able to call upon “love” (of the agape, not the lustful, variety) and other distinctly non-hindbrain emotions to convince themselves that there’s still a core of happiness there. conversely, alphas in even happy marriages will never stop feeling the eternal hunger of discontent.

    read the writings of men who would universally be considered among the most “alpha” of authors — hemingway, bukowski, etc.
    what common thread, what river runs through the writings of these men?
    discontent.
    always needing more.

    the great equalizer, almost god’s last laugh, is this: sure, alphas get a bigger piece of the pie — but betas are nevertheless much happier with their admittedly smaller share.

    the real choice is, 200 years of perceived happiness, despite a probably oppressive routine, vs. 50 years of Sturm und Drang amidst plenty. it’s very hard for most non-schizophrenic people to adopt both frames sufficiently to understand the dichotomy in full.

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  62. on January 21, 2011 at 6:53 pm Legion

    Great stuff.

    Afaik, higher testosterone men tend to die younger; there seems to be a link between the fieriness of testosterone-fuelled competitiveness in youth with later developing prostate cancer and the like, a kind of evolutionary tradeoff.

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  63. on January 21, 2011 at 6:59 pm Original JB

    “I didn’t say anything about god or about us all being equal. I simply make bold to aver that NW Europeans, Ashkenazis and NE Asians don’t have higher IQ’s than other European peoples and sub-groups. It’s propaganda. And it is intimately related to political matters. Matters especially dear to Neo-cons.”

    So why do “other Europeans” score worse on PIIMS and IQ tests? Is that “propaganda” as well?

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  64. on January 21, 2011 at 7:07 pm lover of women

    Alphas being assholes – relatively new ..in my era and before (born 1961) a guy wasnt alpha because he looked like a Calvin Klein model…and could be up guys on film ..or because he was popular

    a true alpha danced to his own beat ..made his own way ..paid the consequences for those choices ..kept his word ..and had a balanced empathy for those around him ..and was generally trusted because of innate character based on fairness and the appropriate use of power ..physical or intellectual.

    Entertaiment is a pretty good mirror of society

    For example
    Russell Crowe Denzel Washington Steve Mcqueen Sean Connery – YES

    George Clooney, Matt Damon, Colin Farrell – No

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  65. on January 21, 2011 at 7:33 pm College Slacker

    @Anonymous

    Great point, and I’ll add that most of the girls I encounter every weekend who are seniors aren’t even looking to get “Joe Hubby” anymore like you say it was years ago; it’s all about getting drunk and having sex. Am I complaining? Not at all. My friends and I are those assholes that benefit from it the most at the expense of the good guys.

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  66. on January 21, 2011 at 7:42 pm College Slacker

    Two Points:

    1.Call me crazy, but I would take 50 years of alpha every day of the week and twice on Sunday. Chalk it up to my youth, but for better or worse my mission in life thus far has been alcohol and women- I can’t imagine anything else.

    2. Regarding naturals being dumb: I’ve got a couple buddies who are naturals and get girls nearly every weekend and there is definitely a reason why they’re in a state university if you know what I mean.

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  67. on January 21, 2011 at 8:00 pm Anonymous

    College Slacker said: “I’ll add that most of the girls I encounter every weekend who are seniors aren’t even looking to get “Joe Hubby” anymore like you say it was years ago; it’s all about getting drunk and having sex.”

    Chicks back then were heartbroken and couldn’t understand why the man o’ their dreams suddenly wouldn’t want ’em after he, his buddies or both had bent ’em over drunk at a party in front of people before. Loads of fun watching this heartbreak play out. Got bummed about not being “a lot of fun” (getting drunkly violent, tying women to bed with phone cords, etc.) until I realized there were hot older women going to college too– cougar time!

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  68. on January 21, 2011 at 8:09 pm Ovid

    “So why do “other Europeans” score worse on PIIMS and IQ tests? Is that “propaganda” as well?”

    Yes.

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  69. on January 21, 2011 at 8:17 pm Jay M

    Women are too much trouble. What is the point of going after 7s-10s if they are well aware of how beautiful they are and use it as leverage against men? Even ugly women have an unwarranted sense of self-importance and think that men owe them something.

    Would people who follow the advice in “To the Manor Born, to Manners Bred” be considered beta?

    http://www.hsc.edu/The-Record/2010-December/Lisa-Birnbach.html

    What could be more alpha than a man who has character, contributes to society, has a strong moral sense and is always seeks to do the right thing? And also exercises temperance, moderation, industry, cleanliness, tranquility, and other virtues?

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  70. on January 21, 2011 at 8:18 pm Anonymous

    Doug1 said: “Much in American culture tells women who’ve gotten commitment from a man and often children, that once the passion stage has definitely seriously waned, they needn’t return commitment, especially if there are any problems at all in the marriage, but often even if they’re not, other than the fading of passion.”

    You got it. No one believes its not all thrills and chills any more. When the passion wears off, they’re outta there! “I do, until I don’t feel like it!” (There’s a “for worse” part in there, too– marry a buddy or else it won’t last.)

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  71. on January 21, 2011 at 8:23 pm narciso

    jay m

    Women are too much trouble. What is the point of going after 7s-10s if they are well aware of how beautiful they are and use it as leverage against men?

    so you can fuck them?

    What could be more alpha than a man who has character, contributes to society, has a strong moral sense and is always seeks to do the right thing? And also exercises temperance, moderation, industry, cleanliness, tranquility, and other virtues?

    try to explain that to the female reptilian brain, sir. while you’re at it, why don’t you try convincing a blind person that they should wear red clothes, rather than clothes that are comfortable.

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  72. on January 21, 2011 at 8:27 pm Anonymous

    Jay M said: “What could be more alpha than a man who has character, contributes to society, has a strong moral sense and is always seeks to do the right thing? And also exercises temperance, moderation, industry, cleanliness, tranquility, and other virtues?”

    Today that’s Beta, if not Gamma, because people are spoiled. “Alphas” get what they want without being that way (of course, they’re anti-social criminals or just “douchebags” who wind up dead when they try to out-man real anti-social criminals, but who’s counting.) Guys who have manners and are responsible are just sissy mama’s boys bowing to somebody else’s standards (or at least bozos and the women who get pumped-and-dumped by ’em from the suburbs feel) today, although that’s seriously stupid and no way to sustain society. Jay M is right, but there’re a lot of stupid people who take it for granted or feel that’s wrong but they have to go along with it or have nobody.

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  73. on January 21, 2011 at 8:29 pm scIeNCE yo

    In regards to the part about testosterone and immunity:
    http://www.scienceblog.com/community/older/1999/E/199904705.html

    Turns out testosterone may not affect the immune system by actually lowering it after all. It redirects immune system resources.

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  74. on January 21, 2011 at 8:36 pm Anonymous

    lover of women said: Back in the day “a true alpha danced to his own beat ..made his own way ..paid the consequences for those choices ..kept his word ..and had a balanced empathy for those around him ..and was generally trusted because of innate character based on fairness and the appropriate use of power ..physical or intellectual.”

    Today, it’s the ’tis better to reign in hell than serve in heaven ethic. Back then, we had standards and understood the reasons for them so we valued such things as Alpha. Today, with the collapse of morals and values, were find them weak and “boring” or not “fun” enough to be worth interest. Being upright, moral and responsible is not heroic but just pussy obedience to something outside one’s self when (until the consequences of not having morals and values arrive) unrestrained hypergamy and marauding hun behavior is exciting and fun. (Romans found out the hard way, but I digress.)

    There’s a reason why we use to value and celebrate heroic and having character… we’ve just forgotten, hopefully we’ll wise up and recover before it’s too late.

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  75. on January 21, 2011 at 8:47 pm A. Paleocon

    > A study of chimpanzees has revealed that dominant animals with higher testosterone levels tend to suffer from an increased burden of parasites

    This is not the main problem with being #1 or #2 common chimp. The main problem is being castrated, maimed, or killed in a coup by rival coalitions from within the same group. Usually you are only gonna be #1 for about 2-5 years. If you are deposed without major injury it’s a stroke of luck.

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  76. on January 21, 2011 at 8:49 pm Tim

    the single most reliable marker of the alpha — think hemingway, bukowski, and the asshole on the street — is eternal discontent, never feeling that anything is enough. while for the beta, well, anything is enough.

    yes and no. mel gibson is eternally discontented, and never feels he has enough, yet he has revealed his inner beta of late. Here is your sentence but with a couple words changed:

    the single most reliable marker of the beta— think gibson, bukowski, and the asshole on the street — is eternal discontent, never feeling that anything is enough. while for the omega, well, anything is enough.

    Henry the Fifth- that’s alpha.

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  77. on January 21, 2011 at 8:50 pm A. Paleocon

    Bachelor – exactly.

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  78. on January 21, 2011 at 8:53 pm Anonymouss

    “Douchebags”… they’ll call the police on you for harrassment or creating a hostile environment after you confront them about their being obnoxiously bitchy to show you how manly they are. (Alpha without having to earn it, but often valued as Alpha today regardless.)

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  79. on January 21, 2011 at 8:56 pm Anonymous

    Anatomy of a Douchebag: How to Get a Girl to Go Out with You… speakin’ of:

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  80. on January 21, 2011 at 9:00 pm Begby

    NYC, nice academic study of why girls like assholes and bullies. Just reminds me to give these douchebags a punch in the throat when they start talking shit, like any good lower alpha should.

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  81. on January 21, 2011 at 9:09 pm whorefinder

    GLC, Obama supporter:

    ” leave the game, politics, and life commentary to the adults.”
    —lol. Tell us again how you need money…and then not need money…to keep women around? l

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  82. on January 21, 2011 at 9:15 pm Markku

    Afaik, higher testosterone men tend to die younger; there seems to be a link between the fieriness of testosterone-fuelled competitiveness in youth with later developing prostate cancer and the like, a kind of evolutionary tradeoff.

    Nah, it’s completely obvious: in our evolutionary formative past, alphas relished conflict and, as a result, more often than betas who avoided conflict, died young without leaving any descendents. From a reproductive point of view, being alpha is the riskier strategy while being beta is the safe bet. The expected outcomes are reflected in the distribution of temperaments found in male populations existing today.

    The balance has shifted somewhat in favor of alphas in that homicides are quite rare compared to the situation only a few centuries ago. Contraceptives work in the other direction. The net effect might be increasing the prevalence of genetic disposition towards an alpha temperament.

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  83. on January 21, 2011 at 9:20 pm Anonymous

    Feminism explained… in an Xtranormal video:

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  84. on January 21, 2011 at 10:31 pm Gorbachev

    From Best of Craigslist.

    I’ll put money on what process this woman went through. Why she left the Good Guy.

    Reality bites.

    http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/clg/1501848067.html

    Our Connection is Over
    Date: 2009-12-09, 3:11AM MST

    I post this to an open forum, to purge these words from me so they can exist somewhere concrete, out in the Universe, instead of eating away at the corner of my mind when it gets dark and everyone else goes home with whoever they’re loving or fucking or both if they’re lucky. But it’s winter now, so the season of long patio nights and random hookups and breathlessly exciting flings and sweaty sheets and sleepless nights has officially come to a close until the next turn of the seasons. In short, I can no longer distract myself from your absence.

    You were my best friend. There were others before, and others after, but most of them only served to help me situate and recognize your importance in my life. If ever I get that close to another, I fear they will know me only as I am now, and not as how I got here. You have been my reflection, borne witness to me, helped me gauge my own growth in this long and convoluted life. Four different cities for you, two for me. Two countries on opposite sides of the world in different hemispheres. Plane tickets, train rides, international calling plans, endless conversation, anticipation, disappointment, breakups, makeups, death. Four years. My entire University career. I am indelibly marked with your presence.

    And now nothing. I felt no more fireworks when we kissed. I pulled away, sickened with myself for trying to fake it. I couldn’t fuck you like I meant it anymore. You noticed. You left.

    And now, I am not lost. I am not sad and I am not afraid. But something has died. I do not love, or laugh, or notice color. I hate the music you like now. I hate myself for not loving you enough. You did nothing wrong, except maybe love me too much, too well. Even at the end, when our hearts were so twisted up we were spitting words unrecognizable to each other, even then you were too good to say what we were both thinking- that I won’t find anyone else who loved me as you did. And you’re right. Because the kind of love I had with you, the one that remakes your soul into something better, and forces you to recognize and honor the humanity in another person- that kind of love isn’t what I’m looking for. I’m going for the cheap ones now. The guys with square jaws and big arms and small brains. They haven’t read any philosophy, or possess the gift of playful banter, or looked me in the eyes and focused on my soul. I am not doing Us justice. I am taking the easy way. I am disgusting myself.

    This is what’s meant by falling out of love with someone. This is why half the world walks around heartbroken, glazed over, given up. I almost put that ring on and pretended everything was ok, but you didn’t smell right anymore.

    What Now.

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  85. on January 21, 2011 at 10:34 pm Gorbachev

    And another Craigslist. Best of Craigslist.

    http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/wdc/1533779057.html

    The Grinding Wheels of Justice Bunkbed
    Date: 2010-01-02, 10:05AM EST

    So there you are, suddenly single after fifteen years of faithful monogamy that came to a crashing halt when you discovered that the other �partner� felt that monogamy only applied to one of you, and it wasn�t her. Now, despite the fact that you�ve been a hard-working sole provider for a decade and a half and you technically own half of a really nice, big, house in the burbs, you find yourself sitting in an unfurnished crappy little two-bedroom apartment little bigger than the one you first moved into straight out of college. You have an old table with one chair, a beat up couch you got from your folks back in the early 90s and which they got in the 70s, a mattress with no frame, and thank god, a tv. (But that bitch wouldn�t let you have the remote, would she?) You�re not exactly at the top of your game, but what�s worse is that you don�t know where the kids will sleep.

    Yea, the kids. They still love you. They want to come and see you. They did nothing wrong. But now you have nowhere (other than the couch) for them to sleep.

    Sound familiar? Well then have I got a deal for you. Feast your eyes upon the Grinding Wheels of Justice Bunkbed.

    You see, it will get better. The wheels of karmic justice may grind slowly, but they grind exceedingly fine. You will reconstruct your ego, and your life. Then you�ll slowly start having a social life. You�ll fix some of those things about yourself you always wanted to fix but didn�t have the time/energy because you were so busy being provider/husband/father. You�ll meet a brilliant and gorgeous woman who, coincidentally, happens to be much younger than you. You�ll fall in love. For her part, your ex will fall into bankruptcy, get all sorts of inappropriate tattoos, and basically ruin her own life without any help from you. But the first step to all of that is having somewhere for the kids to sleep. That�s where the bunkbed comes in.

    As you can see from the picture, it�s steel framed, relatively new, comes with two mattresses, and the bottom bunk is a couch until you pull it out into a futon. So here is the scale:

    If any or all of this applies to you, if you are the one who was cheated (male or female) on and you STILL had to move out and need somewhere for your kids to sleep: $75 and hell, I�ll throw in some pillows for you.

    If you are a single mother or father, perhaps for other reasons, it�s still a bargain at $100

    If you are a young couple, working hard to make ends meet but doing pretty well, with your whole lives in front of you: $101

    If you are the one who cheated in your marriage/partnership, the one who had to leave the house because you could not stop your libido from overruling your vows: $3,275. And I get to punch you in the face. In fact, I’ll probably do that anyway, on the principle of the thing.

    * Location: Capitol Hill

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  86. on January 21, 2011 at 10:37 pm askjoe

    riskier strategy? men are cheap, women are expensive…the prize. If not you, someone like you, eh?

    Also, alpha shouldn’t necessarily mean violent, it’s leadership, being high value, being willing to cash out.

    As for naturals being dumb? I think that’s just sour grapes, attractive people are smarter than ugly people, and maybe they don’t feel the need to slave away at an education to one day be rich enough to buy someone’s love.

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  87. on January 21, 2011 at 10:40 pm peckerwood

    shit, Gorby, people who lose loved ones write all sortsa crazy. It’s called catharsis. It’s just that the interwebs saves the crazy for all to read.

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  88. on January 21, 2011 at 10:47 pm Gorbachev

    And a tongue-in-cheek more or less true pos.

    http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/sba/1737517917.html

    Date: 2010-05-12, 12:20PM PDT

    You:

    -Must have a busy schedule. This must be legit. Holding down a 3.8 in the College of Engineering while working two jobs, running a business, publishing original research=busy. Sleeping in until 2 in the afternoon, smoking with your friends, watching re-runs of �It�s Always Sunny in Philadelphia�=not busy.

    That way, we can always blame everything on �timing.� (It�s not you or me)

    -Must play control games with me. I will push and shove, and it is your job to nonverbally put me in my place by constantly �taking control of the situation.� This is how you will establish your �dominance.� This will not be easy (but that�s what makes it fun).

    Other ways to �stay in control:� ask all the questions, do all of the interrogation. If I ever become upset, accuse me of being �emotional� or �unreasonable.� It’s always “inside my head.” Also, see me when it is convenient for you. Don’t always answer my calls. Remain somewhat aloof. You don�t want to let me have the upper hand.

    -Must be willing to banter back and forth with me. I will get bored and lose interest otherwise.

    -Must be into exciting and potentially dangerous activities, like stealing road signs, driving like a maniac, and getting arrested by the police.

    Actually, scratch that last one. There is a difference between risky and reckless. Then there is �retarded.� (I�m still undecided on where to place �posting personal ads on Craigslist.�)

    In turn, will never call you too much (although I won�t hesitate to call you out) nor will I make you feel guilty about not �spending enough time with me.� I won�t nag you about commitment (or �where this relationship is going�) because it will never be �that� serious. We won�t talk about feelings because�well, I�d rather not.

    Only short-listed applicants will be contacted (no phone calls or multiple e-mails, please).

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  89. on January 21, 2011 at 10:59 pm whiskey

    IQ and the Wealth of Nations, has a plethora of IQ surveys. Southern Europeans have lower mean IQs than Northern Europeans, Harpending and Cochran found lots of genes being selected (but don’t know what they are being selected for) by Ashkenazi Jews, and Northern Europeans, and NE Asians.

    We have a wealth of info on ancient Jews. Egyptians, Babylonians, Phoenicians, Greeks, and Romans all wrote down what they thought about them: stubborn, not smart. The best Ancient physicians were Greeks, or Egyptians. The same applies to Northern Europeans. Then about 1200 or so, you saw changes. Both Northern Europeans and Ashkenazi (the latter more so) faced genetic bottlenecks, massive reductions in populations then expansion, and selection. Trading, handicrafting, ever more food preparation, heck dog breeding (Europe is home to more breeds than any other region indicating specialization spread all over) required high IQ, and punished those who lacked it while rewarding those who had it. Not just at the top but the middle as well.

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  90. on January 21, 2011 at 11:03 pm whiskey

    As a follow-up, consider the time and effort put in Britain to develop: the Airedale, Fox Terrier, Bedlington Terrier, Otterhound, Bearded Collie, Bulldog, Skye Terrier, Sealingham Terrier, Lakeland Terrier, Welsh Terrier, Kerry Blue Terrier, Irish Terrier, Scots Terrier, Manchester Terrier, Beagle, English Mastiff, and more. Or the Germans: Doberman, German Shepherd, Rottweiler, Schnauzer, Dachsund, Giant Schnauzer, and Min Pinscher.

    The Greeks have, what, one herding dog?

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  91. on January 21, 2011 at 11:05 pm Gorbachev

    @Whiskey,

    And the smarts could have been bred into the Northern Europeans in just a few hundred years.

    Prior to 1200, northern Europe was home to barbarians and monsters.

    Maybe what we need is another 100-300 years of selective breeding here. That might do it.

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  92. on January 21, 2011 at 11:12 pm Gorbachev

    I don’t know why eugenics – non-coercive eugenics – has such a bad rap. We’re not talking Hitler here.

    I’d put money on us being able to breed super-smart people out of the dumbest populations on the planet. Or breed anything into a population of people.

    Want tall, muscular, violent SuperSoldiers? Could be done.

    Want a race of bright scientists? Could be done.

    Want a race of super-beautiful sexual servants, male and female? Could be done.

    Want a race of middle-managers? Probably possible.

    Religious-tendency mystics? Also possible.

    Super short people? Possible.

    I’ll bet you could breed a variety of people who were ultra-bright, thoughtful and pensive. And you could do it with ghetto Philly stock. It might take longer, but it would be doable.

    We could take any population anywhere and likely breed almost anything. We respond to that just like any animal, of course.

    We could passively do it, too.

    What would happen to the average IQ in the ghetto if the stupid, violent drug-using men were kept from breeding through, I don’t know, jail time or education policies or free access to abortions and no welfare for single moms?

    I’ll bet the average IQ would shoot up as provider-beta black males suddenly found their Provider genes in sharp demand.

    Give that maybe 3-4 generations and you could start to make some statistical impact.

    I guarantee you the Chinese have no problem with this concept.

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  93. on January 21, 2011 at 11:13 pm Gorbachev

    We could, in fact, actually breed superior people. Superior in every way.

    Someone, sometime, is going to do this.

    It would be best if we did this in a passive, open and happy way, non-coercively, rather than in the scary, dictatorial, oppressive kind-of way.

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  94. on January 21, 2011 at 11:14 pm Gorbachev

    How about just not having dysgenic policies?

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  95. on January 21, 2011 at 11:18 pm askjoe

    There are rumblings about dysgenic policies. In an Aldous Huxley sort of way, libs have figured out that Omegas have the franchise too. It’s like they’re breeding perfect voters, just add water and walking around money. And to think, some founding father was just worried about voters voting themselves keys to the larder.

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  96. on January 21, 2011 at 11:19 pm xsplat

    Tim

    Also, and I think you speak for many women, why would you want a beta for twenty years, and some flings with alphas? Why not just choose the flings with alphas, and have the rest of the time for yourself? Can women just not handle being alone, ever?

    If you were a woman wanting to maximize personal advantage, which would you choose?

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  97. on January 21, 2011 at 11:21 pm Caesar Augustus

    If you want to know why Northern Europeans, Jews, and NE asians are “smart” read The Ascent of Money: A Financial History of the World by Niall Ferguson. His argument is that money is the driving force of all human progress. Beginning with the Babylonians and into the modern era the author makes his case well. According to him Southern Europeans dominated the continent’s history for centuries until the discovery of the new world shifted economic power from the Mediterranean to the Atlantic, which led to cities like Florence and Constantinople losing preeminence to London and Amsterdam as the continent’s financial and commercial capitals.

    http://www.amazon.com/Ascent-Money-Financial-History-World/dp/1594201927

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  98. on January 21, 2011 at 11:21 pm Ranger Rick

    Of course I’d rather be a huge alpha and die and 50…who the fuck wouldn’t?

    It’s the same way I view drinking, sure it’s probably taking a few years off my life, but I’d rather die at 60 while getting to enjoy beer and scotch, than live to 100 being stone-cold sober.

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  99. on January 21, 2011 at 11:28 pm Tim

    xsplat,

    long time no hear. ya, you answered it. beta does the plumbing, shovels the snow, give the back rubs and gets a bi-monthly, routine, sloppy, pity-fuck.

    And women wonder why there are no ‘great women’ of history. Women fill up the great middle, that’s why.

    It’s too bad Lara admitted this; I hope her husband doesn’t read it.

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  100. on January 21, 2011 at 11:28 pm xsplat

    Mark

    She never gave me her number, but asked for mine and I gave her the wrong one. Not sure if this is worth pursuing.

    You mean to ask if pursuing her would have a high enough chance of success to be worth your time and mental energy.

    Of course you should pursue her. That’s your job as a man. If you are at the same time pursuing other girls, you’ll find that giving her attention actually costs you less mental energy, not more, as you will fret less about the outcome.

    No one needs to explain to you that her not giving you her number was a very strong signal. No one needs to tell you that a limp fuck was poor showing on your part. No one needs to tell you that chance is not in your favor. No one needs to tell you to try anyway.

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  101. on January 21, 2011 at 11:36 pm Gorbachev

    @Tim,

    I think I remember reading that you were from Canada – vancouver or something.

    I hate my job. The contract I have is up in three weeks and I want to bail out of it. What’s the economy like in Canada? What’s the media (TV/doc industry) like up there? Do they hire Americans? Is it a hive of PC correctitude or are there channels for greater independence?

    Just wondering what your general impression is.

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  102. on January 21, 2011 at 11:38 pm xsplat

    Ah, the devil nuance is poisoning our clear and pure notions.

    There are two ways to show dominance. One is you drag your woman into the toile by the nape of her hair and piss on her, before giving her a hard shower fuck. The other is to control your enviroment and have her be physically dependent on you.

    That the guy failed at the second task doesn’t mean that all he needed to really do was succeed at the first.

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  103. on January 21, 2011 at 11:52 pm hmm

    “Same question to the ladies. 50 year lifespan hopping in and out of bed with hundreds of alpha males versus 200 year lifespan with one devoted beta in a, say, 20 year LTR. Reaction time is a factor.”

    In a heartbeat I’d take 175 years with a devoted man over 50 years with a bunch of short term relationships with “alphas.”

    But 20 years is a fairly short-term relationship if we’re living for 200 years. What’s happening the rest of the time?

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  104. on January 22, 2011 at 12:04 am xsplat

    NYC

    * Gerbiling: When Betas convince themselves that the objective evidence of the social inferiority is direct evidence of their social/moral superiority while simultaneously reinforcing their desire to be a social inferior.

    Slave morality is a social adaptation to opportunity, not a philosophical stance. Poor people are more apt to share their sandwich than are rich people. There is strength in numbers. When you need social allies, it’s wise to not piss people off.

    The state can lessen the need for social allies, with regards to physical violence – this only shifts the hierarchy away from athletic skill at violence towards social and business cunning. It’s still the same game. Having a big mouth won’t get you laid unless you win over the group to laugh at your jokes. And doing so successfully makes you alpha.

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  105. on January 22, 2011 at 12:15 am xsplat

    Women also tend to feed the Gerbil as well. They WANT it well fed- it keeps the betas in their place.

    Yes, women feed off of social hierarchy. Wouldn’t do if all bucks had the same antler size. Wouldn’t do at all. It also confers massive advantage to the child of a high status woman to have massive social inequity. And as an interest group, women physically rely on most men being starved for pussy.

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  106. on January 22, 2011 at 12:21 am xsplat

    Hence bullying, they don’t pick someone who might fight back (even if they could probably kick his ass) but only people who cry and flail around stupidly.

    I had an odd sympatico with an older stronger bully when I was a teenager. He’d terrorize all around him, but had a strange respect for me because I treated him as if I wasn’t afraid. It became a feedback loop such that he rarely shit tested me, but openly gave respect. I exploited the feedback loop by being increasingly brazen about my lack of fear for him.

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  107. on January 22, 2011 at 12:23 am xsplat

    I’m reminded of guys who hang around with grizly or polar bears while armed only with a pole. It’s all bluff, but if you can keep your bluff tight, you can socialize as the dominant bear. Or at least socialize without getting eaten.

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  108. on January 22, 2011 at 12:30 am xsplat

    the single most reliable marker of the alpha — think hemingway, bukowski, and the asshole on the street — is eternal discontent, never feeling that anything is enough. while for the beta, well, anything is enough.

    Stop playing with your speculum.

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  109. on January 22, 2011 at 12:36 am xsplat

    What could be more
    alpha admirable than a man who has character, contributes to society, has a strong moral sense and is always seeks to do the right thing? And also exercises temperance, moderation, industry, cleanliness, tranquility, and other virtues?

    Fixed that for you.

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  110. on January 22, 2011 at 12:40 am Anonymous44

    Women have rationalisation hampsters. Beta males have rationalisation gerbils. 🙂

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  111. on January 22, 2011 at 12:44 am xsplat

    alpha admirable

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  112. on January 22, 2011 at 12:50 am xsplat

    You got it. No one believes its not all thrills and chills any more. When the passion wears off, they’re outta there! “I do, until I don’t feel like it!” (There’s a “for worse” part in there, too– marry a buddy or else it won’t last.)

    As a man, I’m exactly the same way. And why shouldn’t I be? Why shouldn’t anyone?

    People talk as if being happy is immoral.

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  113. on January 22, 2011 at 1:00 am Timothy Webster

    Gorbachev, you talking to me? Yes I’m up here. If you want to communicate in private, I’ll provide a means shortly. I just figured out that craiglist ads are a great way to get a free, temporary email address.

    A friend just interviewed and was hired, but he’s been looking for 3 months. Lots of media up here, but not sure how that goes with hiring Americans. All the big sci-fi shows are filmed here. Come on up, visit for a week or so.

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  114. on January 22, 2011 at 1:11 am xsplat

    This is not the main problem with being #1 or #2 common chimp. The main problem is being castrated, maimed, or killed in a coup by rival coalitions from within the same group. Usually you are only gonna be #1 for about 2-5 years. If you are deposed without major injury it’s a stroke of luck.

    And so was born the cad strategy. No need to openly have a harem and protect it from encroaching males. Simply be smooth and suave with the ladies. A sneaky fucker who gets in under the radar.

    This avoidance of being top dog also leads to the iconoclast strategy – being a specialist in a field of one – being an entrepreneur.

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  115. on January 22, 2011 at 1:17 am xsplat

    Tim <corrected… the single most reliable marker of the beta— think gibson, bukowski, and the asshole on the street — is eternal discontent, never feeling that anything is enough. while for the omega, well, anything is enough.

    The alpha is content when he is in a state of struggle. The beta can’t be content if he is in a state of struggle.

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  116. on January 22, 2011 at 1:19 am xsplat

    If I were immensely wealthy, I would not quite my job. I’d simply re-invest my gains into more fruitful labors. What some people fail to understand is that the journey of struggle is a big part of the pleasure in life. We don’t WANT to retire.

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  117. on January 22, 2011 at 1:29 am Tim

    Hello there, Gorb! Nice to see you again. Looks like we have two Tims from Canada. I’m from Vancouver. Not sure which city Timothy is from.

    I took a much needed break from commenting at the Chateau; now I’m back and well-rested. This blog sucks one in like a vortex.

    It’s funny you mentioned the media. I was going to tell you several months ago what the scene is like here. Well, I’ll try to be brief. Ever since the dollar has been trading on par with the US greenback, business has been slow. Producers from LA love it when the Canadian dollar is low, because it means they can do all their filming in Vancouver or Toronto and pay the local SAG in Canadian dollars. It comes out to being millions of dollars in savings.

    That said, not one Canadian bank touched those toxic credit default swaps and thus no bail-outs were needed. The economy is doing just fine.

    Let me also mention, I know someone who works at a company in Vancouver called Foundation Features. He’s quite a guy. I think the key to his success is that he tries to help other people. I don’t know what you do in the media, but it seems to me that if you’ve got that piece of paper- a degree -then you are mobile and can go wherever you want. Hell, I’m 41 and I still think about my next move. As long as you’ve got that linkedin profile up to date, the world is your oyster.

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  118. on January 22, 2011 at 1:31 am Anonymous

    Gorbachev quoted: Where the bunkbed cost $75- 101 otherwise, “If you are the one who cheated in your marriage/partnership, the one who had to leave the house because you could not stop your libido from overruling your vows: $3,275.”

    Hear hear! 🙂

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  119. on January 22, 2011 at 1:32 am xsplat

    Nah, it’s completely obvious: in our evolutionary formative past, alphas relished conflict and, as a result, more often than betas who avoided conflict, died young without leaving any descendents. From a reproductive point of view, being alpha is the riskier strategy while being beta is the safe bet. The expected outcomes are reflected in the distribution of temperaments found in male populations existing today.

    The balance has shifted somewhat in favor of alphas in that homicides are quite rare compared to the situation only a few centuries ago. Contraceptives work in the other direction. The net effect might be increasing the prevalence of genetic disposition towards an alpha temperament.

    Good analysis, but clarify how contraceptives favor betas. Because children are more likely to be planned, within a provider marriage?

    Also should be noted that as fortunes rise, temperaments change. Rising testosterone and new opportunities will change the character of a man.

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  120. on January 22, 2011 at 1:34 am Tim

    The alpha is content when he is in a state of struggle. The beta can’t be content if he is in a state of struggle.

    I had to turn it over in my mind a few times. I think what you mean is the alpha never loses his cool, even under pressure. Agreed.

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  121. on January 22, 2011 at 1:34 am Anonymous

    xsplat said: “People talk as if being happy is immoral.”

    Well, you can be happy without f*cking-over or otherwise hurting other people for it… cheating spouses, etc. can’t seem to do that.

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  122. on January 22, 2011 at 2:04 am xsplat

    Tim

    The alpha is content when he is in a state of struggle. The beta can’t be content if he is in a state of struggle.

    I had to turn it over in my mind a few times. I think what you mean is the alpha never loses his cool, even under pressure. Agreed.

    No, I meant the stronger term. Just as anti intellectuals can not empathize with the pleasures a thinker gets from thinking, the beta can not empathize with the pleasure the empire builder gets from the struggle of trying to build.

    Anonymous

    xsplat said: “People talk as if being happy is immoral.”

    Well, you can be happy without f*cking-over or otherwise hurting other people for it… cheating spouses, etc. can’t seem to do that.

    Causing people pain is inevitable. Read that three times.

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  123. on January 22, 2011 at 2:10 am xsplat

    In other words, Tim, ambition is it’s own satisfaction.

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  124. on January 22, 2011 at 2:23 am dying gaul

    First time poster, long time reader,
    My girlfriend went in the bathroom to take a piss and complained to me when she came out that the seat wasn’t down, I told her that she needed to start learning to put the seat up for me

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  125. on January 22, 2011 at 2:35 am xsplat

    “My girlfriend went in the bathroom to take a piss and complained to me when she came out that the seat wasn’t down, I told her that she needed to start learning to put the seat up for me”

    Well ya, that’s the classic female frame. Funny how men tend to not even notice it, because we are soaking in it. It comes as a shock at first, doesn’t it?

    Your task will be to get her soaking in your frame until she doesn’t even notice it.

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  126. on January 22, 2011 at 2:45 am Anonymous

    @xsplat

    I guess I am new to game. Thanks for the comment. I’ll come back when I’ve become more accustomed to putting sluts in their place.

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  127. on January 22, 2011 at 2:57 am Just boobies

    Okay, I admit it. I’m a troll. So just go ahead and skip this post now if you want. As a female who has been reading this blog way too much, I just have something to say – I know why women become dissatisfied in marriages, and why all they care about is money. And that is this: Women in relationships with men can never be loved. And eventually, they realize it.

    You say it yourselves every day. What men care about is the way a woman looks. That’s it. Because I read this blog, now I know that no matter how passionate I am about my work, no matter how much I cultivate my interests, no matter how many novels I publish, or how much I love my children, or how well I care for my friends and family, the single most important person in my entire life won’t give TWO SHITS about the person I am inside. All he’ll care about is how many wrinkles there are on my face and how often I stroke his cock.

    Can you get out of your selfish heads for two seconds and realize how demoralizing that might be for a human being?

    I’m engaged to a great young guy who IS MY ONLY SEXUAL PARTNER, YOU FUCKERS. And thanks to this blog, now I know that someday, when I’ve had his children and taken care of his house and worked my ass off (literally, ha) to stay thin AND be a role-model to our children, he will leave me for some 20 year old, because, through no fault of my own, my face got old.

    Well, fuck. That, right there, is why marriage is just as raw a deal for women as it is for men. Wish you could find just one decent women in the entire country? Well, I wish I could find someone who for a fraction of a second would love me for what I say and not how I look. I’ve got news for you friends: Never going to happen. Mother Nature is just one giant bitch, am I right?

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  128. on January 22, 2011 at 3:20 am Danny

    @ Just boobies. The females and beta male fathers have you covered. You are protected by the state via divorce laws and compensated with money.

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  129. on January 22, 2011 at 3:23 am xsplat

    Just boobies – in a word – yes.

    However my father is happily re-married to an old woman. They’ve been together twenty or so years now, and one of them will die before that changes.

    But in general, yes.

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  130. on January 22, 2011 at 3:30 am xsplat

    Tim, an example of a high risk high stimulation personality enjoying conflict – a happiest moment in my life was when one girl forced her way into my room in order to harangue the other girl I was fucking. Sheer joy.

    Most men would be extremely adverse to the tension.

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  131. on January 22, 2011 at 3:34 am xsplat

    Actually, in that instance they got along pretty well. I didn’t even bother containing my smile.

    In another instance where they fought it was more irritating. The point being that a lust for drama and an appreciation for conflict goes in hand with ambition and overall alpha traits. The need for the extra stimulation is part of the brain chemistry. Guys without that need won’t grok guys with it, and must fall back to philosophy as to why their life is more “satisfying”. It’s just a satisfaction of a different sort – skydiving satisfaction or sunbathing satisfaction.

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  132. on January 22, 2011 at 4:01 am hbd chick

    easy. a 200 year lifespan with the one devoted beta that i’ve already got. (^_^)

    wouldn’t want just any ol’ beta — and don’t want any of the alphas, thankuverymuch. bleh!

    most men out there are just too dumb for me. but that’s just me.

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  133. on January 22, 2011 at 4:02 am NYCBachelor

    What would happen to the average IQ in the ghetto if the stupid, violent drug-using men were kept from breeding through, I don’t know, jail time or education policies or free access to abortions and no welfare for single moms?

    I’ll bet the average IQ would shoot up as provider-beta black males suddenly found their Provider genes in sharp demand.

    Give that maybe 3-4 generations and you could start to make some statistical impact.

    I guarantee you the Chinese have no problem with this concept.

    Gorb- this is why I think high IQ men and women have a moral obligation to cuckhold and breed as much as posssible with other high IQ individuals (high IQ males to spread their seed as much as possible). Either we do it through old fashion breeding or the Chineese will do it through genetic engineering- eventually. One way or another its a matter of time.

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  134. on January 22, 2011 at 4:08 am NYCBachelor

    Great example of asshole game- white kid attempts to be cool. Black guys run asshole game (guarantee the asian was soaking wet for the black guys- at least in comparision to the white kid). Clint Eastwood show the danger of asshole game- don’t run asshole game on Alpha males or people who have nothing to lose.

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  135. on January 22, 2011 at 4:18 am xsplat

    Either we do it through old fashion breeding or the Chineese will do it through genetic engineering- eventually. One way or another its a matter of time.

    Here is how it’s going to play out: a Japanese biotech concern will create novel technology and amass an amalgam of patents relating to human genetic engineering, and start to market designer babies. The technology, while patented, will eventually become used broadly in the black market, especially by blacks. Blacks will become the new ascended class.

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  136. on January 22, 2011 at 4:22 am NYCBachelor

    Xsplat-

    Slave morality is a social adaptation to opportunity, not a philosophical stance.

    How we look at life can be defined as our life philosphy- whether explicit or implicit we have one- and it is no doubt influenced by the social circumstances we life and were born into; all the same- it dosen’t change the fact that we have one.

    Poor people are more apt to share their sandwich than are rich people. There is strength in numbers. When you need social allies, it’s wise to not piss people off.

    Asshole game is just that- a game that you can exploit; a strategy. It depends on you being well off enough that you can support yourself while also exploting the largesse that supports the alpha proxies. If you’re destitute then obviously making friends is more important that social posturing (which is what asshole game is). It is still a valid strategy… given the right circumstances.

    The state can lessen the need for social allies, with regards to physical violence – this only shifts the hierarchy away from athletic skill at violence towards social and business cunning.

    Yes- asshole game relies on shifting the game ENTIRELY to social cunning. Its a strategy of exhibiting alpha traits without having to back them up with anything of substance. No financial or physical assets required. This strategy works because you’re directly targeting the female hindbrain- in an envirnonment where females are most likely to listen to that hindbrain, ones where alcohol is being consumed.

    Having a big mouth won’t get you laid unless you win over the group to laugh at your jokes. And doing so successfully makes you alpha.

    Isolation and selective humiliation are just as effective. Its all context dependent. However- the base of asshole game is relying on exhibuiting social superority by exploiting the bottom ranks of a social circle- these are percisely the people least likely to have allies within a social circle.

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  137. on January 22, 2011 at 6:10 am lover of women

    boobs..

    some thoughts ..

    ..no matter how passionate I am about my work..no matter how I cultivate my interests no matter how many novels I write

    Alot of I’s in that sentence.. and all of that is FOR you..not very meaningful to a man..in general.

    So if your mindset was to focus your interests on a successful marriage and family..and I gave you ingredients ..A B C D E ..
    and you had a 80% – 90% chance of having a fulfilling marriage and family..and a MAN who’d commit to it and love you… in general ..you still could not choose those ingredients.

    They are in conflict with your conditioning..and the weight of what other people think, what you deem to be NORMAL from signals you have recieved from society.

    And of course human nature would be to fuck with the recipe..to experiment ..change the order ..leave C out ..then try and add it later..or not at all ..and most probably…
    complain and have someone else to blame for the RESULTS.

    There are infinite varieties, ways and combinations to create a fulfilling life for yourself… but none of them include selfcentred narcissitic attitudes or behaviors.

    Many guys write here are sharing their own experience and the frame of reference is purely personal ..and may be generally true …but not universally. There are some gems..real insight and wisdom ..yet there is a difference between intellectual knowledge and mastery and the experiential.

    And very few I have read own their own lives …that should be the goal. Nothing less…the sooner the better … 35 is an admirable goal in age. 25 and if you did it under your own steam ..1% club… 45 and still working at it ..take a long hard look at yourself.

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  138. on January 22, 2011 at 6:30 am lover of women

    boobs

    this is a little clearer

    Alot of I’s in that sentence.. and all of that is FOR you..not very meaningful to a man..in general. and even LESS important for a marriage and family to be successful

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  139. on January 22, 2011 at 7:45 am xsplat

    NYC

    Isolation and selective humiliation are just as effective. Its all context dependent. However- the base of asshole game is relying on exhibuiting social superority by exploiting the bottom ranks of a social circle- these are percisely the people least likely to have allies within a social circle.

    I never socialize in groups. Is this true? In my high school I never saw that play work.

    Being socially savvy requires winning the group, and while picking on some outsiders helps with that, as children move through and past high school, you must display more finesse as a measure of social fitness.

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  140. on January 22, 2011 at 7:50 am xsplat

    Yes- asshole game relies on shifting the game ENTIRELY to social cunning. Its a strategy of exhibiting alpha traits without having to back them up with anything of substance. No financial or physical assets required.

    I’m not sure if pure cunning is nothing of substance. Steven Hawking chose physics because it was a field that required pure cunning.

    Succeeding socially or financially or athletically are all substantial accomplishments. Look to the comedians for example.

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  141. on January 22, 2011 at 8:04 am HarmonicaFTW

    That’s not exactly true with being more socially savvy. While there are groups that require you to navigate the storms of their sensitivities, political groups require you identify with them and pick on their enemy. Running asshole game with a group of hippie chicks harping on the Midwest or conservatives picking on gays is much easier. You can easily find your way into the pants of a political chick just as long as you can hit all her emotion buttons and with politics that’s just too damn easy.

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  142. on January 22, 2011 at 8:10 am xsplat

    Harmonica, can you entertain us with a script?

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  143. on January 22, 2011 at 8:58 am Anonymous

    Just boobies: “And thanks to this blog, now I know that someday, when I’ve had his children and taken care of his house and worked my ass off (literally, ha) to stay thin AND be a role-model to our children, he will leave me for some 20 year old, because, through no fault of my own, my face got old.”

    No, that’s your Rationalization Hamster kicking-in. (He won’t do that, especially if you do all that you said.) The depressing danger is YOU getting bored, going “I’m not happy” and divorcing him… and taking the house, the kids and lots alimony/child-support, so you can be pumped-and-dumped by lots of other men, have your kids hate you and wind up even more unhappy being old, alone and feeding cats for company.

    The problem is not finding a decent women, it’s beating out the “he’s a lot of fun” douchebags who’ll end up hurting her to get and keep her. (“Where are all the good men?!” they complain, too, after being pumped-and-dumped. Go figure.)

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  144. on January 22, 2011 at 9:08 am Anonymous

    NYCbachelor said on Asshole Game: “Yes- asshole game relies on shifting the game ENTIRELY to social cunning. Its a strategy of exhibiting alpha traits without having to back them up with anything of substance. No financial or physical assets required. This strategy works because you’re directly targeting the female hindbrain- in an envirnonment where females are most likely to listen to that hindbrain, ones where alcohol is being consumed.”

    Yup, douchebaggery…

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  145. on January 22, 2011 at 9:34 am Southern Man

    Enough have replied to “just boobies” that I won’t quote her here. But my .02 is – most of my divorced male friends were perfectly fine guys who loved their wives and were good fathers to their children and worked hard to provide for their families and didn’t go out drinking every night and weren’t abusers and didn’t stray – but gave their wives everything they wanted, lost their respect, and got divorced. MOST divorces are initiated by women, not men; men are more than willing to stick it out and resolve whatever problems come along, but women (apparently) are not and are quick to divorce when “they’re not in love anymore.” And most of the single women I know near my age (I’m one of the elders among this readership) divorced perfectly good guys, went through their “cougar” phase, got tattoos, went bankrupt, regret it, and now wish they could settle down again. Where are all the good guys, they ask. Well, we’ve been burned too many times by women like you and are off the marriage market for good. Our children and fishing and biking and gaming women half our age and our various personal missions are our focus – not you.

    Just boobies, if you maintain admiration and respect for your husband, he’ll stick with you through thick and thin, no matter what. Men CRAVE admiration and respect from the women they love. Rememer this, provide it, and you’ll receive endless love in return. Indeed in my experience the happiest women I know are loved by men they admire and respect. I you want some good book titles on this, reply (or drop me a line through my blog) and I’ll put up a list after work tonight.

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  146. on January 22, 2011 at 11:03 am Trust

    @”It is well known that people who are married lead healthier lives and live longer but it was not known if the effect was the same for those cohabiting.”
    _____________

    I’ve long called this generally accepted belief to be bullshit, for reasons too numerous to recount fully. Two big bullshit flags are worth noting

    1. it takes people who die today (normally who married 40-60 years ago) and compares it to people who don’t marry and/or die today. Clearly, marriage is not what it used to be.

    2. Most people who married, especially then, were not healthier because they married, they were healthier because they had their acts together to begin with.

    Of course, the peddlers of this shit are the same buffoons that peddle crap like “wives don’t neglect husband who treat them right” in an effort to flock more men into legal servitude.

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  147. on January 22, 2011 at 11:47 am darknesscomes

    I’m someone who, fortunately or unfortunately, has to study this crap in real life.

    @Boobies…What you have described here RARELY happens in the Real World. If you give that much to a man he will rarely cheat on you all other factors being equal.

    But that doesn’t happen. In fact, I’ve only seen it happen ONE TIME and that was recently. Where a “perfect” woman got left behind by her husband.

    But men doing the best they can and getting the “I’m bored thing”?

    Constantly.

    In fact, it has made me so cynical that I’m ready for some change. Hence my name here.

    Anyway, I have a theory (not yet based on science so I could be talking out of my ass) that the whole “I’m bored” thing stems from Nature and not the relationship per se. What I think happens is that the woman’s “genetics” wants her to have as VARIED of genes as possible and not just “alpha” genes.

    That way, the genetics would select against any one particular “bloodline” for lack of a better word in case of an inherent genetic flaw in that bloodline.

    One of the ways in which I differ in ideas from PUA’s and the Game in particular is that it can help make a successful LTR.

    I don’t think that is the case at all. Of course, I have a much larger sample set than most people here and go not just on academics but real-world experience.

    It would also exaplin why married women, WHO ALREADY HAVE KIDS BY HER HUSBAND, are so likely to cheat after a certain time point, irrespective of what the husband does.

    But, whatever. I’m ready to blow the world up and start all over again at any rate.

    DC

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  148. on January 22, 2011 at 12:04 pm Timothy Webster

    I know an alpha male. He’s been in an LTR for 25 years. As an alpha, sure, he’ll take a little bit on the side when he can get it. But his wife, even though she has gained weight, is his world. She bore his children. He knows and understands her. She helps in the family business. He relies on her. He might want to enjoy the occasional fling with a young slim 20 something, but he loves her, and would never leave her. And he shares my view; when you turn out the lights, it is all good. Of course, his views may be affected somewhat; she exploited his love of food to fatten him up, and then froze him out the last couple years when he got a bad case of diabetes and she almost died in childbirth.

    Point being, the comfort and familiarity you develope over a long relationship is also valuable to a man. If you are with an alpha, get over your jealousy and don’t expect him to be sexually loyal. Just make sure you take care of him in every way you can think of, and don’t let him be financially disloyal. For alphas, pussy is so easy to procure, the wallet speaks louder than the testicles.

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  149. on January 22, 2011 at 12:37 pm Thor

    Chateau:
    “Today the liberal manifests his violent tendencies verbally, and in papier maché effigies. Strident advocacy for open borders is a form of soft genocide, so you could chalk that up to leftie violence as well.”

    Hah. Liberalism IS violence essentially by definition,
    except that the liberal outsources the violence,
    and claims to abhor it.

    The violence is then channeled though government,
    which is tasked with stealing peoples money,
    punishing them if they do (or don’t do) all sorts
    of things that are forbidden/mandated etc.

    It is like abhorring hunting because it involved killing
    of animals, while having no problem eating meat that
    is professionally slaughtered out of sight and indoors.

    This latter by the way is literally true of most liberals,
    true to form.

    Thor

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  150. on January 22, 2011 at 12:58 pm john

    xsplat…dude, please get a life!:0

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  151. on January 22, 2011 at 1:23 pm LOL

    You mean you dont believe Xsplat fucks a giant harem of young women who worship the ground he walks on while simultaneously posted here 24 hours a day?

    Weird

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  152. on January 22, 2011 at 1:25 pm Thor

    @begby
    “I’d like to see science delve into the question of why a slutty woman provokes a visceral feeling of disgust in the opposite gender, while a promiscuous man promotes a feeling of desire and admiration in the opposite sex.

    Just like the false blank slatism of ‘gender is a social construct’, another false plank of feminism is that there is an unreasonable double-standard regarding whores and playboys.”

    I think we agree. But let me elaborate. A man does
    not usually find too slutty women attractive. He knows,
    instinctually and intellectually, that this woman is NOT
    marriage material, she will cheat all over the place.

    Worse, she is not even great fling material, odds are she
    is so full other men’s semen that the odds of any particular
    man impregnating her is slim. Besides, she probably has a cocktail of nasty microbes/critters down there.

    And, NO, there is very little parallelism between men
    and women, the symmetry breaker being that women
    get pregnant, men do not. (The exception, and an
    important one, is when BOTH parties are gung-ho
    on a monogamous relationship – then the
    difference shrinks to a vestige).

    Specifically, if a top-tier woman marries an alpha,
    and she cheats, that reduces his reproductive
    potential, so her cheating is really bad for him.
    If, OTOH, he cheats, this is almost irrelevant to her,
    AS LONG AS HE DOES NOT DIVERT RESOURCES
    TO HIS EXTRAS. So she will – usually – pretend
    not to notice, but raise hell if she detects cash
    flowing out.

    Thor

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  153. on January 22, 2011 at 1:41 pm Gramps

    Observations on why women get bored and leave good husbands:

    Maybe women get bored so much in marriage because women are innately boring?

    How many women have interesting hobbies (don’t count reading) or build stuff, fly model airplanes, etc. Most women have empty minds.

    As one thinker of the mid 19th century bemoaned, “When did a woman ever offer to show you her library?”

    Read their magazines, if you can stand doing it.

    It seems obvious. That’s why women age out so quickly. They simply don’t have much to offer aside from youth and beauty.

    And, I have noticed that women in a relationship think they will be in high demand because cool guys hit on them. They think they will have no trouble attracting a “better” man once they have ditched their husband. They find out fast that the cool (asshole) guy who was screwing her while she was married has no interest in a LTR after she dumps her husband. Just easy, no investment sex is what he wanted. Now, without the husband around to baby sit and pay the bills while she screws him, things aren’t so interesting to him. When she starts to demand commitment (make him beta, just like the last man she dumped), he’s gone. As well he should be. He has other girls awaiting him.

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  154. on January 22, 2011 at 1:57 pm Begby

    Just Boobies,

    Don’t worry about your future husband leaving you if you get wrinkles on your face. Worry about him leaving you if you gain 30 pounds, stop having dirty sex, focus more on your personal goals than on supporting him, start taking him for granted, etc… You have full control over whether you remain desirable, even into old age.

    Under feminism and marriage 2.0, many older guys have decided that it’s not worth it to start a family, and so they are focused on how to bed hot young girls instead. In that scenario, looks do become all-important because there isn’t anything of substance there anyway.

    If you bring character and integrity to the table, you’ll be valued for it if you have the right guy.

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  155. on January 22, 2011 at 2:05 pm Begby

    “How many women have interesting hobbies (don’t count reading) or build stuff, fly model airplanes, etc. Most women have empty minds.”

    and to fill this yawning hole in their psyche’s, they have appointed the male gender as personal Jesters. As soon as the monkey stops dancing for her, the awful dread of the emptiness sets in again.

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  156. on January 22, 2011 at 2:32 pm itsme

    @boobies

    you claim that you read this blog too much. but i think you haven’t read the comments enough, because if you did, you’d realize that there are plenty of men who want to have long term relationships and be married. the problem is that there are very very few ltr-worthy females in the anglosphere.

    i could ask you why all the anger and bitterness in your post, but i think deep down you already know.

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  157. on January 22, 2011 at 2:51 pm Thor

    @gramps
    “As one thinker of the mid 19th century bemoaned, “When did a woman ever offer to show you her library?””

    My wife did. We (i.e. predominantly she)
    had about 30 000 books. I still have most of them
    (I am widowed).

    And she would proudly show her library to anybody.

    Yes, marriage material, we lasted 30 years.

    @begby
    “If you bring character and integrity to the table, you’ll be valued for it if you have the right guy.:

    Just so. A woman who wants to get married (or re-married), in particular women past their physical prime,
    can do this. There are some things she should do
    (remember the discussion some many months ago
    around a woman wanting marriage and asking
    for advice?).

    In no particular order:

    1) Have some outside interests, OTHER than yourself, and your kids if any. This makes you more interesting, AND gives you opportunity to hang out where the guys are.
    (This can be almost anything except embroidery. Politics, religion, music [stay away from rock concerts], outdoor walking tours. But don’t fake it, you will be living with a guy who cares about the issue, tough to fake long term for you).

    2) Dress somewhat modestly, Fashionable is good, a man can tell a $100 dress from a $10 dress from K-Mart. But he
    cannot, in general, tell a $1000 haute couture dress from a $100 knockoff.

    3) Speak softly, when you have something to say. Try doing it publicly, the podium effect works for women too,
    although not as well as for men. Showing engagement is OK, but don’t raise your voice unless absolutely necessary
    to make yourself heard.

    4) Show signs of character. Say you are a widow if possible, if you are divorced. Works well if your ex has died after the divorce. Imply that there are lots of things you just would never do.

    I knew a woman who was tragically widowed, then married somebody else on the rebound, and divorced him a year or two later. I insisted that she label herself a widow, not a divorcee, and not just on the marriage market.

    Thor

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  158. on January 22, 2011 at 2:59 pm itsme

    @gramps

    a woman i know cheated on her husband, divorced him to be with the other guy, and the other guy dumped her and married someone else. she’s in her late 40’s (looks 10-15 years younger tho) and is, in her own words, a ‘liberal feminist’.

    she wonders why life has been so harsh and she can’t catch a break.

    unfuckingbelieavable.

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  159. on January 22, 2011 at 3:11 pm Gorbachev

    Feckless father in the UK:

    Remember, radical feminists were all in favor of welfare and state -subsidized benefits because they actually wanted to eliminate the nuclear family. It was oppressive to women.

    So now, we have the rapid de-industrialization of the West going hand-in-hand with the deliberate Villageification of our urban and social life.

    Men are rendered nothing but useful sperm donors and fun times for women. Families are obsolete

    The unfortunate thing is – what you end up with is an undeniable de-civilizing effect. In effect, we’re reversing 10,000 years of careful social and urban development.

    This has happened before, many times, but never ideologically.

    The correction is coming, though; the model is unsustainable. And if other societies – notably in Asia – are able to keep it together, then we are truly doomed.

    When Asian societies are able to bury us economically, and we can’t even see to it to educate our wild, errant children – the corrrection will come and you’ll get new whiney complaints from the Left about how we’re not doing enough to create state-subsidized jobs or our elite has abandoned us.

    “When you’re young, if you’re not a socialist, you have no heart. When you’re older, if you’re still a socialist, you have no brain.”

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  160. on January 22, 2011 at 3:46 pm Gorbachev

    @NYCBachelor


    Gorb- this is why I think high IQ men and women have a moral obligation to cuckhold and breed as much as posssible with other high IQ individuals (high IQ males to spread their seed as much as possible). Either we do it through old fashion breeding or the Chineese will do it through genetic engineering- eventually. One way or another its a matter of time.

    I see your point. But you also have to raise these children, and single motherhood is a universal disaster. Every study has shown that kids do worse in single-mother families; the same kids that do well in these families would have done better in nuclear families. Denying this, after so many studies and so much research, is perverse.

    And the Chinese will, in fact, do it. We’d better find a nice way to sell the concept, or our dysgenic policies will ruin us.

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  161. on January 22, 2011 at 3:47 pm lover of women

    Southern nailed what makes men tick once in a relationship .. admiration and respect..and it cant be faked

    I read this blog because I enjoy the intelligence ..I think however sometimes it may be off track …whats the goal ..to be happy, enjoy ..to have a well adjusted life..find the mistakes and improve.. grow smarter wiser to operate with less effort for better results

    well what if many of those mistakes stem from our own operating systems…it means that we unknowingly allow the external environment to control effect our internal systems

    in this case ..value systems

    how many guys ever dated a genetic lottery winner ..the so called 9’s 10’s ..a woman who had things going on in her life ..the phone always ringing ..successful busy full life.. (an American woman)

    its sucks ..its work …its overrated ..unless its really important to you what other people think ..you want to adjust your life around her options..or maintain it so she doesnt have options..alot of work ..many women like that are vacuums for attention..

    Ever save your money for a really ..”OH SHIT LOOK AT THAT” kind of car .. same principle ..if you werent born into money or arent lol loaded ..after awhile you are thinking whats this about….it sucks ..who gives a crap what these people think ..I dont respect any of them anyway..insurance sucks ..I get 5 times as many tickets..maintenance ..alarms..worried where to park it ..

    95% of people live their lives like a squirrel looking for a nut ..it used to be about survival ..and thats ok ..part of the process of life ..now its like constant work to get other people’s approval ..which they withhold unless they think they need something from you ..

    how many guys out there kill themselves to get washboard abs.. why? ..because it’s really important to the quality of your life? …im not talking about the discipline or the health ..

    I think it a disservice to younger men in their 20’s to focus TO MUCH attention on game..and the unfairness of the US system..or how scewed up women are because of feminism..proper ways to hunt for women..or super detailed theories of alpha and beta gaming ect..

    it’s a fact ..the American social scene is horrendous and if you win it ..so what ..you’re head freak

    ..Even look at Trump ..took him 3 times to get it right with women ..I wouldnt want to be associated with the 1st 2 in any way..but the 3rd ..she walks on water..imo what happened.. he improved ..matured ..mastered himself

    the best you can do is consistently work on developing yourself ..get enough bank ..and it surprisingly doesnt take that much..to create and control your own environment..

    Lead your life well ..women will follow

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  162. on January 22, 2011 at 4:17 pm Gorbachev

    @Tim
    Hello there, Gorb! Nice to see you again. Looks like we have two Tims from Canada. I’m from Vancouver. Not sure which city Timothy is from.

    I took a much needed break from commenting at the Chateau; now I’m back and well-rested. This blog sucks one in like a vortex.

    It IS a black hole.

    It’s funny you mentioned the media. I was going to tell you several months ago what the scene is like here. Well, I’ll try to be brief. Ever since the dollar has been trading on par with the US greenback, business has been slow. Producers from LA love it when the Canadian dollar is low, because it means they can do all their filming in Vancouver or Toronto and pay the local SAG in Canadian dollars. It comes out to being millions of dollars in savings.

    Alas, I have American expenses, but I’m getting itchy feet. I can see the direction of the entire industry down here: Toilet bowl.

    Literally everyone is panicking. Time To Get Out. I have lots of little jobs and side contracts, but I can see the writing.

    Time to bail.

    My Korean contacts are excellent, but the place has never been as lucrative as it should be. And they don’t work in English. Same for France. And in France, they’re – if possible – more left-wing and extreme than the media is here. If you’re not a hard-core socialist, you can forget it.

    That said, not one Canadian bank touched those toxic credit default swaps and thus no bail-outs were needed. The economy is doing just fine.

    Let me also mention, I know someone who works at a company in Vancouver called Foundation Features. He’s quite a guy. I think the key to his success is that he tries to help other people. I don’t know what you do in the media, but it seems to me that if you’ve got that piece of paper- a degree -then you are mobile and can go wherever you want. Hell, I’m 41 and I still think about my next move. As long as you’ve got that linkedin profile up to date, the world is your oyster.

    I like to get around. I had just hoped to stay home for a few years and get stability. Apparently, stability isn’t in the cards.

    I just have to get my woman to come with me.

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  163. on January 22, 2011 at 4:51 pm ASF

    @SouthernMan

    Everything you say is 100% true and happened to me. Thankfully, despite being a horrific experience, blogs like this exist to put things in the proper perspective.

    In many ways it’s a tragedy that women respond to game/alpha stuff such that a “good man,” will eventually be left unless he understands the truth about the female psyche and her biological imperatives.

    I wonder if religion’s primary purpose is really to harness the (self)-destructive forces of a woman’s nature.

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  164. on January 22, 2011 at 5:36 pm Timothy Webster

    @ASF I wonder if religion’s primary purpose is really to harness the (self)-destructive forces of a woman’s nature.

    That is exactly what it is for. And to reign in men, too. It has to be balanced. Women who feel safe, are the most sexually attractive and willing. Every religion is a set of beliefs that form a world view of how men, women, and children are to interact with each other, with families, and with hierarchies of power. The successful religions are the ones that make people interact in a way that produces wealth and multiplication.

    When you look at it that way, it doesn’t even matter if the atheists are right; they still lose. Because they don’t see the point of religion. They take it away, but don’t replace it.

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  165. on January 22, 2011 at 6:38 pm Good Luck Chuck

    Begby

    and to fill this yawning hole in their psyche’s, they have appointed the male gender as personal Jesters. As soon as the monkey stops dancing for her, the awful dread of the emptiness sets in again.

    You stole my line. I’ve been saying this for years- that women see men as their personal dog and pony show. If at any point you fail to keep her entertained, you’re fired.

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  166. on January 22, 2011 at 6:45 pm julian

    “Yes. That WAS one of the primary purposes of religion once upon a time. However, these days it has lost its way.”

    It’s still possible to find a young virtuous Xian woman in the States but most people who traffic this blog aren’t into it. I recommend those who still hold any desire to marry an American woman (a mostly hopeless gamble) should look within the Church and from intact parents. That of course would pre-suppose you are Xian and hold those beliefs, a rare thing to find around these parts I’m sure.

    That said, a Xian woman still needs to be seduced and gamed just like any other woman but at least you can rest assured that she is less likely to divorce you or cheat. That also pre-supposes that she is a true-blue Xian not just someone who goes to Church; they are easily snuffed out.

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  167. on January 22, 2011 at 6:48 pm Good Luck Chuck

    Today I took the next step to making my move out of the US by ordering Pimsleur’s Conversational Spanish.

    By later this year I should have everything in place to take a little trip down south. Probably start on the Mayan Riviera to get my habanero and tequila fix, then make my way down to Costa Rica and maybe, time permitting, finish it off in Columbia.

    Three weeks should be enough time to whet my appetite for more.

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  168. on January 22, 2011 at 7:30 pm Markku

    riskier strategy?

    Absolutely. The hallmark of alpha temperament (or “rank potential” as defined by Anatoly Protopov) is not fearing conflict or even enjoying it.

    Also, alpha shouldn’t necessarily mean violent, it’s leadership, being high value, being willing to cash out.

    Power is a zero sum game. To obtain power, one has to be able to fight for it, and once in power, one has to be willing to defend oneself.

    Men with the most extreme alpha temperaments have always been compelled to fight hardest for status by their nature. In the past, in more primitive times, the higher a man’s innate rank potential, the more likely he was to climb to the top and reap the massive rewards or die trying (many times leaving no offspring).

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  169. on January 22, 2011 at 7:53 pm Markku

    Xplat:

    Good analysis, but clarify how contraceptives favor betas. Because children are more likely to be planned, within a provider marriage?

    Yes. But it varies from one culture to another.


    Also should be noted that as fortunes rise, temperaments change. Rising testosterone and new opportunities will change the character of a man.

    True.

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  170. on January 22, 2011 at 9:01 pm old guy

    @Timothy Webster

    “@ASF I wonder if religion’s primary purpose is really to harness the (self)-destructive forces of a woman’s nature.

    That is exactly what it is for. And to reign in men, too. It has to be balanced. Women who feel safe, are the most sexually attractive and willing. Every religion is a set of beliefs that form a world view of how men, women, and children are to interact with each other, with families, and with hierarchies of power. The successful religions are the ones that make people interact in a way that produces wealth and multiplication.

    When you look at it that way, it doesn’t even matter if the atheists are right; they still lose. Because they don’t see the point of religion. They take it away, but don’t replace it.”

    Disagree, STRONGLY, they replace it with politics, that’s the cornerstone of the problem.

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  171. on January 22, 2011 at 9:23 pm xsplat

    Bebgy

    You stole my line. I’ve been saying this for years- that women see men as their personal dog and pony show. If at any point you fail to keep her entertained, you’re fired.

    True. I’ll let my girls get bored, but at least try to keep a finger on her emotional pulse, and will suddenly announce that we are going out of the house is she’s starting to get the dreaded combination of being both antsy and listless. And for me a fun time out is going grocery shopping and having dinner!

    Even though the girls mostly hang around in my apartment either fucking or puttering around while I work, I try to moderate their boredom with punctuations of intense interest. And of course the air is always full of cheer and warmth and sex.

    Often I’ll scream out random lyrics. Often I’ll spank the girl, or wrestle her around. I know that my room needs punctuations of excitement in it, especially if the general mood is easy listening. Sometimes I’ll put on the Black Eyed Peas “Pump it Up” and dance the full song naked for the girl. And of course, lots of sex.

    So yes, I take it as my personal responsibility to be the caretaker for her environmental mood. I’m my own cruise ship social director.

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  172. on January 22, 2011 at 9:35 pm blert

    old guy…

    Atheists THINK that they can get by without religion…

    But they are still living in a time when religious values dominate the political space — at least in the US.

    Like Libertarians they can only operate where someone else picks up the pieces for their incomplete vision.

    Libertarianism was founded with the prayerful hope of eliminating all the world’s militaries. Game theory says right away that it can NEVER come to pass. That never fazes an acolyte.

    Likewise, the atheist counts upon law enforcement officers to swear truthfully — and all the rest — while personally being untroubled by deceits.

    After all, if God does not exist and there is NO consequence for being loose with the truth — what do you get? Politics like Stalinism, Hitlerism, etc.

    Atheists can’t live in the world they’d give us. As Mao and Pol Pot have shown, atheistic politics means that you’re hanging on to life by a thread. The rest of society isn’t doing too well, either.

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  173. on January 22, 2011 at 9:37 pm old guy

    God is dead, so religious fervor becomes political fervor.

    See: True Believer by Eric Hoffer.

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  174. on January 22, 2011 at 9:41 pm Gramps

    I don’t see any reason to wonder why we have different types of human personalities (alpha, beta, whatever). Humans have highly complex societies, and need a variety of roles filled.

    They have done studies in juvenile prison. Boys assume different roles depending on the relative personalities in their cell block, moving from leader to lieutenant or even to jester, or back, depending on the personalities of the other boys in their group. Human behavior is highly plastic.

    Look, male crickets have different mating strategies, both high risk and low risk. Some things are universal.

    Most human mate selection in the last 10,000 years didn’t happen in bars with people who had essentially complete physical and economic security given to them for almost no effort.

    As an aside, I was chatting up a woman using history recently (hold the brickbats, please, I wanted her to leave) and described the impact on Eurasian society of the domestication of the horse. (Highly destructive warfare.) She finally asked, does any history end happily? I couldn’t think of any.

    That’s the point. Guys we currently call alpha (rock stars, actors) because they screw unattached women they meet in bars and other such venues wouldn’t have lasted a minute in the real world of old. In the society of men, violent, primitive men, most of these guys would count for zero. The court jester as an alpha? Please. Some people on this blog talk of Ghenghis Khan like he was some alpha superman. He was smart. And short, likely. And very likely ugly by our standards. It would be very unlikely he would score hot babes in a bar in NYC if he were alive today. Not many Mongolians would.

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  175. on January 22, 2011 at 9:43 pm old guy

    @blert

    “Libertarianism was founded with the prayerful hope of eliminating all the world’s militaries. Game theory says right away that it can NEVER come to pass. That never fazes an acolyte.”

    That does not sound like any libertarianism I’ve ever heard of. Sorry, all the Libertarians I know want a strong military. They don’t want the federal government to do much else but they do want that.

    You must know some other Libertarians.

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  176. on January 22, 2011 at 10:02 pm xsplat

    Gramps

    In the society of men, violent, primitive men, most of these guys would count for zero. The court jester as an alpha?

    Since the time of social specialization there has been sexual market value attached to any specialty.

    Even in hunter gatherer times they had the flint maker, bow maker, copper smelter, etc. I bet if danced well that would help you get laid. Game is ageless. You can’t reduce social interactions to brawn in social animals – not even in chimps.

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  177. on January 22, 2011 at 10:07 pm xsplat

    About religion being necessary to have people comply with a social code, I’ve heard it argued that stupid people do indeed require that form of super-ego big parent in the sky watching over them ready to punish, but that smarter people can manage to integrate their super ego, ego, and id, into a workable and socially adapted functioning whole.

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  178. on January 22, 2011 at 10:09 pm xsplat

    Gramps, I’m sure we quite literally had rock stars when we were still making music pounding stones together in Africa.

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  179. on January 22, 2011 at 10:32 pm Mr. C

    ” Most human mate selection in the last 10,000 years didn’t happen in bars with people who had essentially complete physical and economic security given to them for almost no effort. ”

    Most marriages were “arranged” and handled between the families of those to be wed like a proxy transaction for property , material goods/money etc.

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  180. on January 22, 2011 at 10:45 pm blert

    Gramps…

    I’ve followed Libertarianism since ’68.

    Do your reading.

    The founder of the party did so explicitly to dial down militarism to zero.

    ALL other aspects of his philosophy came from that.

    What you’re describing are Conservatives who don’t understand what the original purpose was for the Libertarian Party.

    ALL true Libertarians not only want to get out of AfPak…

    They want to bring all of our troops home. Ron Paul speaks of this constantly.

    Once home, Libertarians want the formations steadily reduced. Like Noam Chomsky they hold that essentially all of the worlds troubles would stop if America stopped all military intervention. Again, Ron Paul constantly pitches this.

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  181. on January 22, 2011 at 10:47 pm xsplat

    Most marriages were “arranged” and handled between the families of those to be wed like a proxy transaction for property , material goods/money etc.

    My intuition is that arranged marriages are arranged between the mothers, and that the fathers have little say in the process. If so the mothers “sexual” attraction for the daughters groom will be the proxy for the daughter, and so the daughter would inherit her mothers attraction for a successful mate. But my other intuition is that daughters even in old timey arranged marriages usually had an input into the selection process. Women would not have such strong mate preference choices if they had spent a substantial amount of evolution time with no choice.

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  182. on January 22, 2011 at 11:04 pm blert

    The perfect template for mating arrangements is Pashtunwali.

    You can join the USMC and visit Kandahar at government expense. There you will see females reserved as trade goods.

    And young boys used for the pleasure of the many.

    Google around inre ‘dancing boys of Kandahar.’

    “Women are for babies, boys are for fun.”

    That’s the local tradition for Pashtuns.

    ————

    That is / was how polygamy was reconciled with the young male sex drive. Young male anus satisfies dozens at a single ‘party’ while the young females are house bound.

    At any age the females are traded away for debts or suitable assets. Normally they are ALWAYS mated to men old enough to be their father. Further, their mates are almost certain to be either first cousins/ uncles or otherwise genetically close.

    This is why Pashtuns are so stupid. Inbreeding drops IQs by a full standard deviation. It also increases the chance of birth defects drastically. Some place it 14:1.

    Yet that was the way of the world for MOST of the last 73,000 years since Toba.

    ——–

    BTW, that’s why most of the third world is so stupid, too. They keep marrying too close to home.

    It used to be a problem even in Japan, Korea and China. People just didn’t leave the village. And the village typically was established by just one or two families back in the day. Hence everyone is over related.

    Such a tendency was spoofed in Blazing Saddles. The whole town was filled with Johnsons — remember?

    Since the wars, labor mobility and urbanization have stopped cousin marriage in its tracks. The result is skyrocketing IQ gains for the affected populations.

    When you get into the extreme rural areas of China it hasn’t happened yet. So you’ll find fantastic numbers of stupid Chinese. As you can imagine the city folk look upon such Chinese with utter contempt. Like Japan and Korea, all of that will change in just a generation.

    ——-

    As you might imagine, game simply didn’t work under Pashtunwali. But the Alphas still got the goods. With polygamy established they simply swooped up the pussy with martial action — as against marital action.

    The Betas and Omegas get absolutely nothing under Pashtunwali. Super Betas/ wingmen get the leavings.

    The Hadiths tell of how such ‘trading’ between raiders and the Alpha went down.

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  183. on January 22, 2011 at 11:09 pm Rum

    Boobies

    Take a deep breath. Give yourself a hug. Listen to me.

    If you just do not GET FAT or FORGET to SWALLOW the odds of even a semi-decent guy leaving you over wrinkles and/or stretch marks is really close to zero.

    But, the thing is, guys have learned that whenever a chick says stuff like you do here, they should run and hide from any sort of long term committment with the sayer. Because you are saying that the guy you are with does not deserve a nonfat woman who actually wants to swallow his cum.
    Do you think Nancy Reagan ever thought to herself, “Why not lard myself up and disrespect the cock. Ronnie is such a loser?”
    Did Lady Bird Johnson? Missus Kennedy?

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  184. on January 22, 2011 at 11:29 pm xsplat

    Blert – I see a lot of homosexual action happening here in Indonesia, solely because the guys can’t cut it in the sexual marketplace for girls. Some boys will go so far as to pretend to be gay, just because that action is easier.

    So you are saying that this is a common – perhaps even default – social setup?

    I’m guessing we’ve always had amalgams of sexual strategies, from keeping one or more women inside your house bound by marriage duties, to being a wandering cad, to prostitution, to serial monogamy. Women have been sold and have had free choice. It’s a chaotic free market in which no single strategy ever is ideal and niche markets always have value. The constants are obvious – those that lead to fitter genes – and relate to hypergamy on the part of women, and promiscuity on the part of men.

    So I could see bum boys being a relative constant throughout history, owing to both female hypergamy and male domination of multiple wives.

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  185. on January 22, 2011 at 11:34 pm xsplat

    Boobies, if I’m reading it right the men here are telling you that a man won’t be attracted to any of your own personal accomplishments, and that yes your age will lessen his physical attraction. If that is the real “you” you want your man to remain attracted to, you are doomed.

    A man is attracted to a woman who is attracted to him. If your husband is your focus and aim and goal and center, then you’ll do fine.

    As long as you don’t get fat.

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  186. on January 22, 2011 at 11:55 pm DJP

    blert said “Once home, Libertarians want the formations steadily reduced. Like Noam Chomsky they hold that essentially all of the worlds troubles would stop if America stopped all military intervention. Again, Ron Paul constantly pitches this.”

    You’re building a strawman. There’s a big difference between irrationally invading foreign countries and maintaining a strong national defense.

    Pat Buchanan has some good stuff to say regarding this.

    And Noam Chomsky is not libertarian.

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  187. on January 23, 2011 at 12:20 am NYCBachelor

    GLC-

    send me an email or a message on SS; we’ll catchup.

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  188. on January 23, 2011 at 12:42 am blert

    DJP

    Chomsky + Libertairans are two views that do coincide on one point…

    America’s military is the biggest problem in the world.

    That you conflate Chomsky as a Libertarian… oh, well.

    ——-

    Even in the age of Alexander the Great the Pashtun were considered primitive in the extreme. The Greeks recognized the ancient ways — you bet.

    Because of it’s harsh climate and terrible ‘roads’ ( try goat tracks ) the Pashtun lands have been a culture arrested for thousands of years.

    You also see such cultural arrestment in the highlands of Papua New Guinea. When the Aussies arrived from the sky those boys were regarded as ghosts. Shades of Cortez & Pizarro!

    Like the Pashtun the Papuan tribes swap wives as breeding stock. There is NO dating scene.

    In both societies the negotiations are 100% male. They not only don’t give a damn what the females think — they’re not even within earshot when the deals are struck.

    One trait that Papuans demand in a female: raising hogs. It will be one of her most important duties wherever she goes. The hogs are penned, and the gals have to bring the food to them. This normally consists of digging up yams and finding fruit. Even one hog can keep a woman busy nine hours a day!

    Hogs, of course, being the number one trade good. You can crank them out quicker than girls.

    Again, like the Pashto, the brides are given at virtually any age to men old enough to be her father.

    This last habit lasted right up and through Romeo & Juliet… If you recall the father has Juliet lined up with Paris. Paris is old enough to be Juliet’s father himself. He’s also loaded and either a super Beta or Alpha.

    The immortal Bard was an extreme Alpha himself — even though the game shown in Romeo & Juliet is so Beta.

    The 17th Earl of Oxford not only was raised in Queen Elizabeth’s home he managed to kill one of the cooks at the age of 7 and yet still more men in sword fights as a young man — over women and honor, of course.

    Famed for his insulting wit… brutal Alpha putdowns against other players… he kept getting into street fights. Hence all of the street fights he slipped into the play.

    It got to the point that his Queen insisted that he stop writing insults under his own hand. Thus Shakespeare was born as an instant adult. ( Kind of like Woody Allen.)

    She gave him $100,000 Pounds a year to keep him out of trouble — and to provide Her with poems and what not to hand to HER suitors. Thusly you’ll have some modern readers convinced he was gay. For that much money the Earl could pretend to be from Mars.

    When the Earl died the writing stopped. That whole Avon schtick was intended as a blind. Otherwise the Crown would have to explain all of the insulting writing that had been going on for years.

    —–

    Where was I? Oh, yes…

    Up until modern times mating was cross generational just about everywhere. Plains Indians — check. Eskimos — check. Arabia — check.

    With such a practice even an Omega would appear Alpha to the girl. And now you know WHY the girls want an Alpha relationship. It is DEEPLY embedded in our genes.

    BTW the cross generational mating occurs in chimps, too. So this goes W-A-A-A-A-A-Y back. You’ll even see it in sharks, whales, deer, etc.

    You have to go to ants and bees to see females on top.

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  189. on January 23, 2011 at 12:52 am blert

    I must correct my figure..

    $1,000 Pounds not $100,000…

    However, it spent like it was $500,000 per year because of the price level. You wouldn’t believe what you could buy with a single pound of silver back then.

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  190. on January 23, 2011 at 1:13 am xsplat

    Blert, you’ll arouse no controversy from me with the statement that intergenerational mating is normal.

    But can you speak more about arranged marriages being arranged by the men? I have my doubts.

    I believe that in India the cultural is heavily matriarchal and the womenfolk handle suck affairs. Leading the men to believe they are really in charge, perhaps, but without question holding the power (and bulk of the buddinsky interest) in that affair. I see that in SE Asia the family structure is also dominated by the women. I forget if the wave of emmigrations that wound up in Papua and Australia is the same wave as those that now dominate the rest of Indonesia, but in purer form, or if they are mostly from an earlier wave, but I have a difficult time imagining society of households in which mating power is not controlled by women. I think you’ll see this in any culture – it’s the mothers who put their noses into their daughters vaginal operations more than the fathers.

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  191. on January 23, 2011 at 1:21 am xsplat

    You don’t usually hear a girl say “my father wants me to marry so and so”. It’s “my parents want me to marry”. A girl and her mom have diffuse and intersecting ego – girls are never quite separate from their moms. And the mom will try to have that arrangement with the father. You’ll see the mothers influence as central over the daughter, using the husband as proxy.

    The intention comes from mom.

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  192. on January 23, 2011 at 1:33 am julian

    Can someone comment on these Shanghainese left-over women ? Are they hot ? Are they demanding shrews ? What’s the real issue that the media is not addressing ?

    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=130833495&ps=rs

    http://www.cnngo.com/shanghai/life/shanghai-leftover-women-hit-back-085575

    http://shanghaishiok.com/2010/11/08/you-dont-need-love-to-marry-all-you-need-is-a-pregnant-girlfriend-love-lessons-from-teacher-wang/

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  193. on January 23, 2011 at 1:56 am Anonymous

    gramps said: “Guys we currently call alpha (rock stars, actors) because they screw unattached women they meet in bars and other such venues wouldn’t have lasted a minute in the real world of old. In the society of men, violent, primitive men, most of these guys would count for zero. The court jester as an alpha? Please.”

    Yup. Douchebags and their asshole game. They don’t have to prove it, they just have to sound like it– image, posturing and aggressive metaphors. (God help ’em if they actually have to mean what they say.)

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  194. on January 23, 2011 at 4:02 am walawala

    @Julian…

    “Shanghainese men are good-hearted, but too soft for me. They are intimidated by me. Everyday, my mother nags me: ‘Look at you! Almost 30, still not married! Look at your friends, married with children! I told you not to get a Master’s! How will you find a husband now?’ She makes me go on blind dates, and every weekend, there’s a dating event, speed dating, those things. But you get to one of these, and there are 20 women and 5 men, and the men look scared of us! Now my mother is threatening to go to People’s Park to find me a husband.”

    Ok….interesting dynamic here. Chinese women in bigger cities are finding jobs, there’s a greater accessibility to brands, make up, etc etc and they’re also discovering they can wait without marrying.

    But after 30 culturally these women are often put on the shelf by Chinese men. So you have this sexual Catch 22…. Chinese women are gaining more independence and find Chinese men “weaK” while traditional Chinese men egged on by their parents are trying to find younger hotter women to marry….

    One woman I know, from Beijing petite….works, has her own car, money, travels to London and speaks quite good English is 37. She says Chinese guys won’t be interested but I’ve banged her regularly and would rate her a 7. She looks young and dresses hot by any standard.

    It’s a situation i suspect of media in China perpetuating the party-line of family, filial piety and Confucian values to try to put this increasingly independent women back in line.

    It’s a society in transition.

    It also means guys with game regardless of age, if they have some stable income can find a decent woman.

    On a personal note…since these women are more independent BUT seeking stronger men…BUT still traditionally Chinese at heart…they want to be gamed but NOT over-gamed. Read the post on “The Player Vibe”….I’ve had to adjust slightly and the results have been very positive.

    Establish Alpha cred…display vulnerability….re-establish alpha cred….surprise with some vulnerability….rinse and repeat….The key element is surprise. All the other game elements: building attraction, kino, etc etc apply like anywhere else.

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  195. on January 23, 2011 at 4:05 am blert

    xsplat…

    You’re correct as far as today’s India.

    However, when you go back in time…

    To REALLY primitive societies…

    The females become just props.

    Some of this carries down to the royal houses of Europe — and others.

    The girls are pushed here and there — ENTIRELY — at the whim of the hyper-male: the King.

    While nominally at the extreme top of the social order…

    The King swaps his blood kin around in EXACTLY the primitive manner. The women are out.

    In Henry the XIII’s case he chronically infuriated his wives, his sister and the better part of his court.

    Henry is the most extreme Alpha in western history… Forget Khan. Henry is it.

    If you read about him in High School then you only heard the rose colored version. In fact, Henry was as able to share power as Adolf Hitler. He ran all over Parliament, they were lap dogs. He routinely whacked anyone that really disturbed him. Not just ex-Queens — their peerage supporters, too! We’re talking dozens of TOP ranking nobles: English, Spanish, Catholic.

    ANYONE in the way of his bedroom production was in extreme peril.

    ——-

    The Papua story is based upon Nat’l Geo… The footage is from the 1970’s…

    The camera may well have influenced events… I can’t say.

    I can say that the husband ran all over his woman — she was humiliated even across the language barrier. Wife to a tribal chief — she absolutely didn’t get what she wanted in ANYTHING.

    Indeed, when the two neighboring tribes met IT WAS TENSE. They were in battle order. For them it was like 18th Century warfare – but with spears, and arrows. Strangely — no SWORDS or anything like them. The news must have been slow that millenia. Such an ODD sight. Men arrayed for battle and no one brought a sword/axe or anything like it. Just the spears and arrows. There’s a slice of history there for you!

    But you think about it…

    Swords and battle axes are PURELY for man to man combat. No one can catch game with them. By comparison spears and arrows are food tools. Interesting, no?

    If you say that wives have impressed their opinions — I take that as a given. And most of the time such female mating opinion might have real weight – IF open warfare is not in prospect.

    BUT… When the chief decides that he’s looking at the ultimate in conflict — even his own wife just becomes noise.

    And that’s what you see in the royal houses. The princesses are being given away — at virtually any age — to STOP war.

    Spain reasonably figured to have half their blood sitting on the English throne. ( They got it with bloody Mary. ) When Catherine of Aragon ( daughter of Ferdinand and Isabella ) became sterile it caused the Spanish and English to do crazy things. The Spanish could not admit that she was ‘done.’ But she was an EXTREMELY willful princess/Queen. She imbued her traits on Mary: ” Don’t ever forget your Spanish and Catholic blood…”

    Again, the higher in nobility you go…

    The further back in time you go.

    Royal houses are genetic fossils.

    ——-

    On to Japan.

    If you are not aware…

    Hokaido, the most northern serious home island of Japan has visually distinct natives. These are all second class citizens back in Tokyo. Don’t you doubt it.

    But…

    There’s a curious thing. The royal line looks like they’re from Hokaido!

    It took an American and DNA evidence to tell the forbidden tale. All modern Japanese are ex-Koreans. By that we mean that the modern bloodline of Japan came by way of the strait within the last 2,000 years — at the most.

    The REAL reason that the Imperial family looks like those on Hokaido is because that is the REAL founder population. THEY are the original hunter-gathering society.

    The folks who showed up after the birth of Christ brought with them systemic agriculture. And so it was set: the newbies were slotted in UNDERNEATH the existing owners — as peasants. BUT over time their exponential hyper-growth and rampant cross breeding created the new Japan.

    Even in the 16th Century it was held that ANY female fucked by an Alpha Samurai could ONLY bear Samurai. Thusly, all the Alphas ‘promoted’ the new immigrants into the Samurai class.

    The ONLY places where this dynamic were suppressed was the Royal house and rice not-growing Hokaido.

    When presented with the DNA trail… Tokyo University admitted — “Why didn’t we see it?”

    AFTER the American published his research… It was impossible to deny.

    This also points to just how recent our genetic story unfolds.

    Interesting, no?

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  196. on January 23, 2011 at 4:12 am Gorbachev

    @walawala

    @Julian…
    Ok….interesting dynamic here. Chinese women in bigger cities are finding jobs, there’s a greater accessibility to brands, make up, etc etc and they’re also discovering they can wait without marrying.
    But after 30 culturally these women are often put on the shelf by Chinese men. So you have this sexual Catch 22…. Chinese women are gaining more independence and find Chinese men “weaK” while traditional Chinese men egged on by their parents are trying to find younger hotter women to marry….

    Korea, same thing. 30 is the magic age. Some men are tolerating it, though; traditional guys, no. But there are lots of non-traditional guys.

    But women still get very worried around 27-30. They’ll often settle for anything they can get to avoid being 30 and single.

    If they find a good guy around 26-27, they settle down immediately.

    At 33, it’s largely done for them. Only foreigners will have them.

    One woman I know, from Beijing petite….works, has her own car, money, travels to London and speaks quite good English is 37. She says Chinese guys won’t be interested but I’ve banged her regularly and would rate her a 7. She looks young and dresses hot by any standard.
    It’s a situation i suspect of media in China perpetuating the party-line of family, filial piety and Confucian values to try to put this increasingly independent women back in line.

    Good luck with that. Communism bred these women. Materialism, the method to control the masses, feeds it.

    And the government, despite demographics, doesn’t want more babies.

    Besides, women have significant levers of power in China. Power they don’t have in other Asian countries. It’s different power, but it’s power nonetheless.

    Middle and upper-class women have it pretty good there.

    It’s a society in transition.

    Expect it to start looking like feminized US.

    It also means guys with game regardless of age, if they have some stable income can find a decent woman.

    Including the 20’s.

    On a personal note…since these women are more independent BUT seeking stronger men…BUT still traditionally Chinese at heart…they want to be gamed but NOT over-gamed. Read the post on “The Player Vibe”….I’ve had to adjust slightly and the results have been very positive.

    Establish Alpha cred…display vulnerability….re-establish alpha cred….surprise with some vulnerability….rinse and repeat….The key element is surprise. All the other game elements: building attraction, kino, etc etc apply like anywhere else.

    This is all true in Korea, too.

    You just need to watch out for the ones looking for a meal ticket. And in Korea, the “golddiggers” don’t need to hide: like in China (Shanghai, anyway), there’s no shame in looking to marry money. Love is optional.

    Girls who marry for money are considered smart. Men who marry them are considered smart only if the girls are very hot or bring something substantial – like letting their men tool around with other women. Which the guys are likely to do, anyway. Korean guys with money aren’t under any illusions about how loyal their women are.

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  197. on January 23, 2011 at 4:15 am xsplat

    When you say that far back enough in time the females just become props, I’m still dubious. Yes, the hyper male can order about the girls as chattel, but such a social ordering was rare. By and large such decisions are left to individual families, and I contend that it is the queen of the house, not the king, who makes these decisions. And has for time immemorial.

    In Thailand there is sin sot, or the bride price. The mother of the bride is who negotiations will happen with. Even as chattel, it’s the mother selling the kid.

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  198. on January 23, 2011 at 9:09 am Kid Nate

    “The rancid, dimwitted ideology fuels itself strictly on feel-good emotions.”

    this is also a description of liberalism in general.

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  199. on January 23, 2011 at 11:42 am Original JB

    @Gorbachev

    “I’d put money on us being able to breed super-smart people out of the dumbest populations on the planet. Or breed anything into a population of people.”

    You could turn desert Arabs into Europeans in 3 generations if you ban the shit out of consanguinity.

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  200. on January 23, 2011 at 11:53 am Doug1

    Good Luck Chuck

    Today I took the next step to making my move out of the US by ordering Pimsleur’s Conversational Spanish.

    By later this year I should have everything in place to take a little trip down south. Probably start on the Mayan Riviera to get my habanero and tequila fix, then make my way down to Costa Rica and maybe, time permitting, finish it off in Columbia.

    Three weeks should be enough time to whet my appetite for more.

    Although I’ve never been, from what I hear spend the three weeks all in Colombia – and in fact all in Medellin. It’s vastly safer than it used to be, now that Colombia has had no nonsense rightist presidents for a decade or so now. Hot girls, spring like climate most of the year. Avoid the rainy season; you’ll have to look that up. Learn Spanish though, at least some. Have a look at Roosh’s forum. Not blog, forum.

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  201. on January 23, 2011 at 11:56 am NYCBachelor

    Yup. Douchebags and their asshole game. They don’t have to prove it, they just have to sound like it– image, posturing and aggressive metaphors. (God help ‘em if they actually have to mean what they say.)

    They not only don’t have to prove it, others are prevented from naturally putting them in their place because of fear of the law/courts.

    It is a complete exploitation of how male and female brains are wired.

    Male Brain when exposed to asshole game:

    Hindbrain: This male competitor is challeneging my status via verbal and physical posturing, if I don’t coax a response then I’ll lose social status and consquently mating opportunities to this male- time to flood the brain with aggression hormones to coax a violent reponse out of the higher levels of consciousness!

    Active Brain: God this asshole is really pissing me off- I’d would so fuck him up- but its not worth it.

    Female Brain when exposed to asshole game:

    Hindbrain: This potential male suitor is challenging all the males in the area with alpha displays that show him claiming significantly higher status then them. Oh look- none of them are challenging him- he has higher status and probably better genetics as well… can’t let this opportunity go to waste- time to flood the brain with lust hormones to coax a sexual response out of the higher levels of consciousness!

    Active Brain: God I really want to fuck this asshole.

    To put it metaphorically- think of Male lions fighting over females. They begin by roaring and trying to intimidate each other- options are to roar back, start the fight, or slint away like a pussy (literally in this case). If a male dosen’t fight, and slinks away- the females assume that the one roaring is the alpha and deserves to mate with them.

    And what we have is a social situation where YOU”LL be the one punished if another male roars in your face (asshole game).

    If you want to get rid of asshole/douchebage game then this is the problem that needs to be solved.

    Luckily, I have a solution.

    Bring back dueling.

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  202. on January 23, 2011 at 12:05 pm NYCBachelor

    When you say that far back enough in time the females just become props, I’m still dubious. Yes, the hyper male can order about the girls as chattel, but such a social ordering was rare. By and large such decisions are left to individual families, and I contend that it is the queen of the house, not the king, who makes these decisions. And has for time immemorial.

    In Thailand there is sin sot, or the bride price. The mother of the bride is who negotiations will happen with. Even as chattel, it’s the mother selling the kid.

    This actually makes sense from an evoluationary perspective. You still have the hypergamous circuits intact within the mother’s brain- but she isn’t under their control any more, she can temper her hypergamy with the wisdom of years and practicality.

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  203. on January 23, 2011 at 12:30 pm Grendel

    [quote]This is why Pashtuns are so stupid. Inbreeding drops IQs by a full standard deviation. It also increases the chance of birth defects drastically. Some place it 14:1.[/quote]

    Define inbred. Its about frequencies.

    Ashkenazi jews have high IQ and are highly inbred*

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  204. on January 23, 2011 at 1:02 pm Rosenberg

    “Power is a zero sum game. To obtain power, one has to be able to fight for it, and once in power, one has to be willing to defend oneself.

    Men with the most extreme alpha temperaments have always been compelled to fight hardest for status by their nature. In the past, in more primitive times, the higher a man’s innate rank potential, the more likely he was to climb to the top and reap the massive rewards or die trying (many times leaving no offspring).”

    Power WAS a zero-sum game. Today it’s all about nepotism and “equal opportunity”.

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  205. on January 23, 2011 at 1:29 pm xsplat

    @NYC, you’re almost making me glad I don’t get out much. I have a hard time imagining such social situations.

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  206. on January 23, 2011 at 2:46 pm Anonymous

    NYCbachelor: “They not only don’t have to prove it, others are prevented from naturally putting them in their place because of fear of the law/courts. … And what we have is a social situation where YOU’LL be the one punished if another male roars in your face (asshole game). If you want to get rid of asshole/douchebage game then this is the problem that needs to be solved. Luckily, I have a solution. Bring back dueling.”

    Life in the ‘burbs would be a lot different. No more, “you f*cked my wife, I’m going to kill myself” (so pussyfied in England they are, that’s a common outcome now) then. Having grown up in violent urban environments (where badasses do actually play don’t-mess-with-my-business-and-I-won’t-f*ck-you-up) I can appreciate your suggestion… would make poseur douchebags and the ‘hos who think they’re hot reevaluate their bullsh*t (which would’ve gotten me dead growing up). Telling when you go from being a “hard man” in one evironment to being “eww, you’re like my father” in another.

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  207. on January 23, 2011 at 2:58 pm Schfifty5

    masochistic multi-cultis throw around “inbred” as if mating with your type of human being is the same as f*cking your sister.

    retarded.

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  208. on January 23, 2011 at 3:47 pm blert

    Grendel

    “Normally they are ALWAYS mated to men old enough to be their father. Further, their mates are almost certain to be either first cousins/ uncles or otherwise genetically close.”

    I DID define it.

    My High School was 90% Ashkenazi, 7% Sephardic and 3% others. There were ZERO instances of the babes marrying their cousins or uncles.

    —–

    It IS true that Tay-Sachs is a genetic Jewish curse — and a pretty good indication that fresh genes are in order. But the type of inbreeding in the back hills of Afghanistan is astonishing.

    Again: it’s like the Johnson family of Blazing Saddles fame. The whole dang village is ‘cousined’ — and has been for some time.

    Saudi Arabia suffers no material hardships due to oil exports. Yet birth defects run to an astounding 29% ish of all live births in the native population. They are still marrying their cousins!

    And of course, their IQs are down in the mid to low 80s on average. That means there are plenty of idiots hidden back home.

    Across ALL muslim populations there is a regular tendency to marry cousins. It’s been fulsomely researched in Europe. Even with plenty of other mates available — they keep marrying cousins. It’s and islamic thing. The result is a pool of idiots all over the European health scene. Country by country the statistics are shocking.

    The trend remains steady, even now.

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  209. on January 23, 2011 at 3:52 pm Gorbachev

    Jews by and large don’t marry cousins.

    Muslims do it all the time.

    In-breeding is never a good thing. Hybrid vigor. We need it.

    That said, I’m still not likely to marry an Aborigine.

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  210. on January 23, 2011 at 4:30 pm Rosenberg

    “Jews by and large don’t marry cousins.”

    Not any more. They used to do it all the time back in the Pale.

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  211. on January 23, 2011 at 4:47 pm Mr. C

    ” Across ALL muslim populations there is a regular tendency to marry cousins. It’s been fulsomely researched in Europe. Even with plenty of other mates available — they keep marrying cousins. It’s and islamic thing. The result is a pool of idiots all over the European health scene. Country by country the statistics are shocking. ”

    Even in Australia , muslim immigrants (particularly Lebanese) that have been here since the 1970’s are happy for their children to marry first and second cousins that are either Australian born or bring them over from Lebanon.

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  212. on January 23, 2011 at 6:30 pm Anonymous

    Saudi, etc…. Alphas get all the women (own max of four apiece, gotten at 9 and divorced/swapped-out at 22 to keep ’em fresh) and marry cousins to keep the wealth in the family. Betas get to blow themselves up for those 72 virgins (too bad they’re really all the other Betas who blew themselves up, suckers).

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  213. on January 23, 2011 at 6:32 pm Doug1

    blert–

    Saudi Arabia suffers no material hardships due to oil exports. Yet birth defects run to an astounding 29% ish of all live births in the native population.

    I seriously doubt this statistic.

    Yes inbreeding is a problem but the severity of the issue reduces logarithmically as you move away another step from relatedness.

    Father daughter, brother sister mating is a big issue for birth defects. Cousin or niece mating is problematic but a lot less so. By second cousin it’s basically not a problem. Like 1% more risk or something. When you’re talking within ethnic group marriage it’s definitely not a birth defect problem.

    However there can be hybrid vigor, yes.

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  214. on January 23, 2011 at 6:36 pm Doug1

    Actually the biggest problem of cousin or niece mating in the Muslim Middle East is probably cultural. It encourages extended family clannishness. All the wealth of brothers is kept within brothers, and all the loyalty. Etc. See Steve Sailer on this.

    Also Arabs in the Middle East hardly come in on IQ tests in the 80s, but rather in the middle or lower middle 90s. 93-96 kind of thing.

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  215. on January 23, 2011 at 6:37 pm Anonymous

    News flash: George Clooney won’t get married again. “I gave it a shot,” he says.
    http://tv.yahoo.com/blog/george-clooney-i-wont-get-married-again–2166

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  216. on January 23, 2011 at 8:02 pm Silver Fox

    Re: Reverse shit tests

    I have deployed the reverse txt shit test… with some startling results.

    Females have a knee jerk reaction to reverse shit tests…across a wide spectrum…from dates, to peers, to clients, to all.

    Anytime I am faced with stalemate I throw it out, esp, when being blown off forever is the alternative.

    Recently, its resulted in:

    -a six-figure job offer
    -sex on my counter
    -3-5 stale leads that revived in minutes

    > A head hunter-recruiter, offered me an $150K base interview then it went cold. So 2wks later, I txt “is this dead; I have a six-figure client retainer pending”. responds in minutes; job offer in>30 days v. zero

    > Some match.com leads that went dead. “Was this spam” get 3 txts tonight, a sunday; offer of date

    > Fading FkBud lead; txts if I want to have Sushi with her & friend ( ie, pay )….I decline. Then txt her @ 11 “Park on my st”; bone her on my counter; even split the 10z tonic bottle.

    > Multiple online dates; that are playing txts over weeks. I repsond “So, you dont want to date normally; lets switch to hot NSA orgasmic sex” 4/5 say FU; 1/5 spreads.

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  217. on January 23, 2011 at 8:12 pm blert

    Doug1…

    The birth defects stat comes from WHO.

    KSA health officialdom is VERY alarmed. They are trying to get Saudis to change their ways. Lots of luck on that.

    ——-

    The same crazy in-breeding gave us the royalty of Europe.

    Do I really have to say anything more?

    IQ rankings are out there.

    Most muslim lands have IQ averages in the mid to low 80s.

    This also holds for muslims now living in Denmark, etc.

    It’s VERY consistent.

    It’s also consistent with cousin marriage logic. Google around. You’ll find lots of research on the issue.

    The European governments with their welfare state health systems are pulling their hair out. They NEVER expected to see these low IQs moving on into the next generation. However, it’s happening in every location in Europe where muslims have settled.

    In Germany there have been gang attacks against native German sons by muslims. Why? The native was embarrassing them in school — big time. But the local boy was only slightly above average.

    Caveman behavior is common among European muslims. What can you expect? Islam is pure rote memory effort.

    http://www.vdare.com/sailer/101219_pisa.htm

    Araby shows a full standard deviation below the American average. Jordan being the best proxy available.

    The Saudis hide their afflicted children — for obvious reasons.

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  218. on January 23, 2011 at 8:28 pm Thor

    @blert
    “Caveman behavior is common among European muslims. What can you expect? Islam is pure rote memory effort.”

    Of course rote. Discussion and analysis might
    morph into criticism.

    But remember that Islam is a religion that is
    highly optimized. Like other religions, it is
    tuned to the survival of the tribe, and
    to reduce intra-tribe violence.

    However, in the case of Islam, the tribes
    were roaming nomads in a desert, whose
    chief economic activity was to plunder caravans.
    (Modern adaptations exist, such as plundering ships
    off the coast of Somalia). So Islam is highly optimized
    for such activities. This includes the belief in 72 virgins
    for those who are less then successful (or shrinkage
    in otherwise successful endeavors)

    Thor

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  219. on January 23, 2011 at 8:33 pm Mr. C

    This is too good not to share.

    From: THE LUCIFER PRINCIPLE : A SCIENTIFIC EXPEDITION
    INTO THE FORCES OF HISTORY
    by Howard Bloom

    The Secret Meaning of “Freedom,” “Peace” and “Justice”

    “And let us bathe our hands in … blood up to the elbows, and besmear our swords. Then we walk forth, even to the market place, And
    waving our red weapons o’er our heads, Let’s all cry ‘Peace, freedom and liberty!'”
    Shakespeare, “Julius Caesar”

    But what about freedom, justice and equality? Isn’t the goal to put all nations on an equal footing? Isn’t that what peace should be about?
    An equality of nations will never exist in our lifetime. Why? Because peace, freedom and justice are deceptive concepts.

    Hidden beneath
    their surface are the instincts of the pecking order.
    The barnyard chickens studied by naturalist Schjelderup-Ebbe had their periods of peace.
    But they never had equality. No matter how quiet
    things were, there was always a dominant bird. And there was always some unfortunate chicken trampled to the bottom of the social ladder.
    This state of things is not restricted to fowl down on the farm. Chimpanzees, baboons and apes–the animal relatives with whom we share
    the greatest number of our social instincts–are all prisoners of deep-rooted hierarchical drives.
    Apparently, so are we. When we preach
    the ideals of freedom, peace and justice, our intentions are less than honest.

    One man’s freedom is all too often another man’s oppression.

    That’s true whether you’re a comfortable citizen of a civilized society or a
    barbarian restless to bully your way up the ladder. Remember Julius Caesar’s famous line “I came, I saw, I conquered”? It’s the kick-off
    sentence of the general’s book describing his campaigns against the Gauls. Leading the Gallic “tribes” in many of the battles against the
    Romans was Caesar’s arch opponent, Vercingetorix.
    The Gauls were not tiny clusters of primitives in fur loincloths. Their leaders often read and wrote Greek186 and argued the philosophy of
    the cosmos.
    The Gallic populace was divided into substantial nations, each of which had hundreds of thousands of citizens and was led
    by its own politicians. But the Gallic realms seldom saw eye to eye.
    How did Vercingetorix pull these states together into an alliance that could face the Roman might? He used the magic word “freedom.”
    Vercingetorix proclaimed passionately that the Gauls must unite to fight for liberty from Roman oppression.
    What Vercingetorix failed to explain was his precise idea of how that liberation would work. Freedom, as he saw it, would consist of
    unifying all the Gallic nations so they could operate with one mind. Whose mind? Vercingetorix’s, of course. To ensure solidarity,
    Vercingetorix tortured and killed those who disagreed with him. On occasion, he was more humane. He cut off the ears and put out the
    eyes of those who didn’t share his views, then sent the mutilated souls back home as a warning to anyone else who might be tempted to
    entertain independent ideas.

    The freedom Vercingetorix offered the Gauls, in short, was the exchange of one tyranny for another.
    Peace is another word abused by those with hidden pecking-order goals. It usually means, “Since I’m on top, let’s keep the status quo;” or
    “Now that I’ve managed to climb on your back, would you please be kind enough to sit still.”
    “Justice” is the term used by those on the bottom of the heap who are itching to move up. When these folks refer to “the struggle for
    justice,” they generally mean, “Let’s keep fighting until I come out on top.” Once the devotees of justice have seated themselves on the
    uppermost rung of the ladder, they too almost invariably become staunch defenders of “peace.”
    Stripped of their moral disguises, the slogans of freedom, peace and justice are often weapons which those attempting to achieve
    hierarchical superiority use to stuff the rest of us into the lower ranks of the pecking order. This is true when the slogans are uttered by
    individuals. And it’s true when these words are used to motivate superorganisms.

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  220. on January 23, 2011 at 8:37 pm Doug1

    Most muslim lands have IQ averages in the mid to low 80s.

    No they don’t. Not according to Lynn and Verhhaven, who are hardly considered leftists or multi cuturalists.

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  221. on January 23, 2011 at 9:06 pm Thor

    @Mr C.

    Of course the various concepts have been obfuscated.

    FREEDOM and LIBERTY can mean either the freedom
    of a whole people/tribe/nation from interference from
    another OR it can mean individual freedom. The former
    did indeed often become (or be from the start) just
    as bloody and dictatorial as any previous “foreign”
    overlordship. But it dosn’t have to be.

    The American Revolution was as stab at genuine freedom
    – for most people, not the slaves of course. It worked pretty well for about 150 years.

    Note: Some people use one of the words, e.g. FREEDOM
    to denote individual freedom, and LIBERTY to denote the
    freedom of a group. In any case, however named,
    they are VERY different concepts.

    PEACE – the meaning is obvious, but if some find the status
    quo intolerable, then peace is threatened. To prevent
    this, a stable system needs some kind of safety valve.
    Upward mobility is such a valve – those not content
    with their lot have a good stab at improving it. Democracy
    is another, although it has problems of its own.

    EQUALITY – never happens. In particular, you cannot have
    individual freedom and economic equality, for obvious
    reasons. You CAN, however, have individual freedom
    and equality of rights, in fact, it is hard to have either
    without the other. The “never happens” above refers
    to economic freedom.

    Thor

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  222. on January 23, 2011 at 9:17 pm Dan

    @Mr. C

    I’m surprised the Lucifer Principle doesn’t get more attention. Have you ever read The Global Brain by the same author? Not as powerful as the Lucifer Principle but still extremely interesting.

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  223. on January 23, 2011 at 9:23 pm old guy

    @NYCBachelor

    “Luckily, I have a solution.

    Bring back dueling.”

    YES. YES. YES.

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  224. on January 23, 2011 at 9:52 pm Mr. C

    I tried reading The Global Brain .. it just didn’t grab me the way that The Lucifer Principle did.

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  225. on January 23, 2011 at 10:54 pm xsplat

    College grad, I have a question for you. Is college really such a purchased commodity nowadays that they let people who are only capable of thinking in terms of black and white and have poor reading comprehension get a passing grade?

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  226. on January 23, 2011 at 11:18 pm blert

    Doug1

    Click my link…

    And face the most disheartening truth…

    You’re wrong.

    The PISA stats are as accurate as we know how to make them.

    Sorry.

    BTW, there’s no joy in that reality for me. It’s ugly — but true.

    Imagining PC schtick about ‘G’ is that: just a dream.

    If it were not so… we’d be in a different world.

    BTW, I NEVER come up with my own stats.

    Cheers.

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  227. on January 23, 2011 at 11:21 pm blert

    Dan & Old Guy…

    I believe that you are correct.

    Without dueling men become women.

    All talk, all the time and no resolution.

    You CANNOT believe how civil society became when a rude mouth meant a challenge at dawn.

    BTW, this was NOT imposed upon the hoi polloi…

    ONLY men of substance dueled.

    Airheads ran away like the omegas they were.

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  228. on January 23, 2011 at 11:27 pm blert

    xsplat…

    You have named it: a complete debasement of education.

    It is shocking to listen to proud youth. They tell a tale of conceit. How they are expert in geography.

    And then in the next breath – can’t tell be which country is south of Mexico.

    Today’s High School Graduate = Grade School circa 1890!

    But with LESS Greek and Latin!

    ——–

    But the greatest collapse is in arithmetic… math… calculus…

    We’ve got multiple generations that can’t figure out budgets and how to solve a ‘word problem.’

    Good grief!

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  229. on January 23, 2011 at 11:39 pm Anonymous

    blert said: “Caveman behavior is common among European muslims. What can you expect? Islam is pure rote memory effort.”

    Hey, one (1) book explains everything and Allah is responsible for their actions… them godless infidels are keeping muslims down with their freedom, alcohol and women who aren’t property, damn it!

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  230. on January 23, 2011 at 11:53 pm Anonymous

    Anyway…

    NYCbachelor: “They not only don’t have to prove it, others are prevented from naturally putting them in their place because of fear of the law/courts. … And what we have is a social situation where YOU’LL be the one punished if another male roars in your face (asshole game).”

    So this (douchebaggery, below) is what women subconsciously want and get ‘gina tingle over? Talk about short-circuitng the hindbrain with bullsh*t.

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  231. on January 24, 2011 at 12:31 am el chief

    a sign of the times:

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  232. on January 24, 2011 at 1:00 am Anonymous

    el chief said: “a sign of the times: http://i.imgur.com/KIUOg.jpg”

    In other words… Beat Fleshlight, Wench! Call me when you stop bitching “Where are all the good men?!” after prefering to get pumped-and-dumped!

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  233. on January 24, 2011 at 1:21 am Mr. C

    The Lucifer Principle was published back in 1995.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lucifer_Principle

    Muslim groups protested , to which Howard Bloom in part responded with ….

    http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/Others/Others-Doc-Race&Groups-General/+Doc-Race&Groups-General-PC&Suppression&Censorship/IslamicInfluence&CensorshipInTheWest.htm

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  234. on January 24, 2011 at 1:46 am lawyerjourno

    Professor Göran Arnqvist from the Department of Ecology and Evolution, Uppsala University and associate professor Trine Bilde from the Department of Biological Sciences, University of Aarhus, have tested this possibility directly for the first time and shown that it is not true.

    Their study on seed beetles shows that, contrary to predictions, males of low genetic quality are more successful in fertilizing eggs. Males who gained the highest share of paternity were actually males with low genetic quality. These males also fathered offspring that did less well.

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  235. on January 24, 2011 at 1:51 am College Grad

    @xsplat

    Yep. A college degree is akin to a high school diploma it seems :/

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  236. on January 24, 2011 at 8:32 am what

    “Same question to the ladies. 50 year lifespan hopping in and out of bed with hundreds of alpha males versus 200 year lifespan with one devoted beta in a, say, 20 year LTR. Reaction time is a factor.”

    What a simple question. NO hesitation, I would choose the beta. ‘DEVOTED’ is the key word.

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  237. on January 24, 2011 at 9:56 am BDS

    “Science can’t stop proving me right.” = “I scan for articles about scientific studies then read my own biases into them, often taking tenuous leaps of faith, which in my mind, proves my point of view.”

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  238. on January 24, 2011 at 10:43 am nugganu

    My ex was always trying to tame me, when she found that she couldn’t, I was history. She wanted marriage and children etc, which I wasn’t averse to at the time. So I’m not sure how that situation supports this article or not. Was it just that she was a control freak?

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  239. on January 24, 2011 at 11:03 am Dan

    @lawyerjourno

    “Their study on seed beetles shows that, contrary to predictions, males of low genetic quality are more successful in fertilizing eggs. Males who gained the highest share of paternity were actually males with low genetic quality. These males also fathered offspring that did less well.”

    Natural selection has two components, biological and sexual selection.

    I’m assuming that “low genetic quality” means they have a poor ability to survive till breeding age(biological selection). But these same males who do poorly at biological selection excel at sexual selection. This compensates for a lower probability of surviving till mating age.

    The same is true of many bird species. The males are brightly colored while the females are very bland. The more colorful the males, the more likely they are to spotted and killed by predators during their life. However, the bright colors also make them more successful in mating. I suppose it is the bird world equivalent of expendability as a DHV.

    So I don’t think it is correct to say that those beetles are of low genetic quality. They are merely practicing a different evolutionary strategy.

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  240. on January 24, 2011 at 12:02 pm Corporal Hicks

    The “dumbing down” is truly breathtaking.

    Have anyone seen the handwriting of young people graduating from high school nowadays? You’d swear it were written by complete fuck-tards. (the use of “were” is in the subjunctive here; another cadaver of the “modern” age)

    Penmanship is GONE forever. Hand-written letters? GONE forever.

    I’m not kidding. What a bunch of fuck-tards. But boy, they sure can put a condom on a banana. Yeah, boy, they got that down REAL good. Let’s party!

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  241. on January 24, 2011 at 12:12 pm Anonymous

    College Grad replied to xplat: “Yep. A college degree is akin to a high school diploma it seems :/ ”

    Some time ago, the “college experience” was supposed to be transformative thing itself and they sorta got away from the educational value. Four years of being a selfish asshole with no self-control is supposed to develop your “potential” as a leader to succeed in life where prole dumbasses who just went to work won’t (boo-hoo, hoi poli earns minimum wage forever– suckers!). Making the little dears “feel good about themselves” was all the rage. Think spoiled liberal SWPL suburbanites run amok (and that’s just their parents who were paying for it) for this “right of passage” to be middle-class, preferably (sniff) better… like a doctor or lawyer. If you weren’t a douchebag, something was wrong with you. (Of course, that’s when people started to take 5 years on average to complete a 4 year degree.) Now, it just means “check, has college degree” when looking for a job or you can go for a further degree. Get your valid credential online as quickly and cheaply as you can because actually going physically to college for 4 years is just an annoying moneypit you’ll get nothing educational out of now.

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  242. on January 24, 2011 at 2:00 pm anonymous

    Gorbachev:

    The media industry in Canada is very strong (arts/film/journalism).

    Here is one site that is updated very regularly. A new Fox-style network is also starting up (Sun TV), they are hiring now.

    http://www.mediajobsearchcanada.com/job_browse.asp

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  243. on January 24, 2011 at 5:05 pm lover of women

    @BDS – confirmation bias..it’s even in most of the scientific studies themselves .. not a big deal

    ..not being aware of how confirmation bias informs our beliefs..or thinking it doesnt apply..that’s another thing

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  244. on January 24, 2011 at 6:20 pm Dan

    @Corporal Hicks

    I agree that a dumbing down is occurring but I don’t think penmanship is a good metric of intelligence.

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  245. on January 24, 2011 at 9:41 pm Unamused

    @Dan

    Penmanship doesn’t even correlate with intelligence (at least not positively), but I think the point was to contrast what young people, of whatever intelligence, are being taught: writing skills vs. sex skills. So it’s the curriculum, and the teachers, that are getting dumber.

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  246. on January 24, 2011 at 10:42 pm epiclolz

    This seems pitch perfect…. “I was in the first castle!”

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  247. on February 22, 2011 at 6:15 am Feldspar

    Excellent post, look forward to more like this.

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