There are computer programs that will superimpose a bunch of male or female faces to create an average composite of all the faces. Well, someone has done it for the native women of 41 countries from around the world. The image is too large to post here, so follow this link to judge the average national beauty of the women for yourself.
This facial averaging algorithm has been around for a few years now. What jumps out is how attractive the average female face looks. Not smoking hot, but certainly bangable. The average female face falls somewhere around the 7 to 9 range on the United Federation of Planets’ recognized 1 to 10 scale. That’s pretty impressive considering how many obese women and ugly cougars now inhabit the advanced nations. There’s no doubt that to get these results the programmer intentionally left out the grossly fat and the depressingly aged from his (he’s most likely a “he”) formula.
The reason an averaged female face is attractive is because the flaws are filtered out. Asymmetry, jutting chins, big noses, leathery skin and bastard children are weeded out of the averaged face. The final product is a conventionally attractive face that is easy on the eyes, if not quite dazzling. It is pretty well established at this point that beauty is objective, and that beautiful female faces all have the same traits in common — symmetry in the horizontal and vertical, large wide-set eyes, small noses, clear and smooth skin, full lips, dainty chins and jawlines, and a general youthful neoteny where the upper half of the head is disproportionately larger than the lower half.
Examining the results for the women from the 41 countries sampled in the image, some gaspingly impolite observations can be made.
– Adjusted for race, the averaged woman is noticeably light-skinned. Swarthiness is not an attractive trait in women, it would seem.
– The averaged Irish woman is relatively mannish looking with a prominent jaw and chin, and thin lips. This accords with personal observation. Irish girls are feast or famine; they are either breathtakingly beautiful or homely.
– The averaging program is very powerful. We can see this by the good things it does to English girls, the average of whom is pretty darn cute.
– But not that powerful. The program has limitations on the magic it can conjure. Samoa has the ugliest women in the world. Sorry, scowling ladyboys.
– Most slaves brought to America during the trade were from West Africa. It is thus interesting that the averaged African-American woman is so different looking than the averaged West African woman. The West African woman, although darker, is more feminine looking. The African-American woman looks like she could play second string defensive back for the Packers. First string if she’s married to the President of the United States.
– Of the three smart but uncreative Northeast Asian countries, the averaged Korean girl is probably the cutest, but it’s a horse race. Really, all three of the Asian chicks looksame. The Japanese girl is making an anime face.
– However, the Vietnamese girl, although it is not shown, has the best ass of the epicanthically folded races. Love your ass long time!
– The averaged Hungarian girl looks like a vampire. Fitting.
– What would the daughters of a master race of white men-asian women pairings look like? See: Uzbek.
– The composite Irish and Welsh woman is not as attractive as the composite English woman. Infer at your leisure.
– Aside from skin color, West and East Africans look very different.
– There are a lot of broad noses in the world. Like red hair, the noble, aquiline nose is a vanishing trait. Too bad.
– The nations of Europe are not a miasma of undifferentiated whiteness. The averaged women of each European nation have distinctive looks. And most likely distinctive composite personalities, temperaments and future time orientations. Just sayin’.
– The South African woman is kinda hot. And white. Which brings us to…
– Why is America, the most powerful country of the 20th century, missing from this comparison? If the programmer can suss out the white chicks in a country that is majority black, why couldn’t the same be done for the US? Up until 1965, when the soft genocide population replacement program pushed by the gated community elites geared up, America was nearly 90% white. I think that’s grounds for having representation from a composite American white chick. Major oversight. Or are American chicks just TOO DAMN FAT to acquire an N > 1?
– The Latvian girl looks like a throwback from a 1970s porno.
– South Indian girls may be smarter, but North Indian girls are cuter.
– Overall face shape doesn’t seem to be too important to beauty. There are cute representatives from both the long-faced and round-faced groups. See, as a comparison, the Swiss girl and the Iranian girl.
– Remember that scene in the underground city of Zion from the Matrix sequel? The banging drums, primitive dancing, and rainbow of multicult love? That’s the Puerto Rican girl. I wanted the machines to win after that scene.
– Of course, the Polish and Russian girls look the most serious. Of course. Get over yourselves, girls.
– The average Russian girl may as well be a hot tennis star. Or Putin’s mistress.
– Too bad for the Samoan girl that Australian Aboriginal girls were not included.
– The Mongolian girl is hiding a purple saguaro in her purse.
– The Finnish girl looks like she’d fuck the consciousness out of you.
– The composite Spaniard is full of herself. Did a composite tiara come included with that photo?
– Blonde and light brown hair are overrepresented in this graphical chart. Is this a selection effect, or does averaging lighten women’s hair?
– The French composite is the least “average” looking of all the women. She is quite stunning with her bold yet feminine features.
– The Peruvian girl has kind eyes. She’d cook you a meal on your second date.
– Swedish girls are overrated.
– Greek and Italian women could be sisters.
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So… which country-AKA-ethnicity has the world’s most beautiful women?
We’ll have to narrow it down first.
The Eight Finalists
Uzbekistan, Italy, France, Finland, Russia, Greece, Spain, Israel
And the country with the world’s most beautiful women is…
drumroll please…
Italy!
The country that birthed Monica Bellucci is the place you want to live if beauty — and fucking beauty — is your raison d’étre. Even Italy’s feminists are bangable, that’s how hot Italian women are.
Runners-up
Best composite DSLs: Greece.
Best composite smile: India.
Best composite nose: England.
Best composite eyebrows: Vietnam.
Best composite face begging for a jizzbomb: Mongolia. (Just think, you might be jizzing on a descendent of Genghis Khan. Thinking about it, aren’t you? You want to yell KHAAAAAN at the moment of ejaculation, don’t you? Imperialist pig!)
Sultriest composite face: France.
Best composite face you want to gaze at with an uneasy mix of awe, horniness and unsettling confusion: Uzbekistan.
Notch flag you are least likely to get, and don’t mind not getting: Samoa.
Best composite closet slut: Switzerland.
Most compositely likely to come at you with a meat cleaver: Hungary.
Best composite repressed sexuality: Iran.
Best composite jungle fever: Puerto Rico.
Best composite girl-next-door: South Africa AKA Holland.
Best composite public sex aficionado: Ireland.
Best composite underage sex simulator: Burma.
Best composite women to ransack if you are a white guy: Korea.
Best composite fling: Finland.
Best composite girlfriend: Israel.
Best composite wife: *does not compute*
Best composite just-got-fucked look: Tie between Wales and Latvia. You go, girls!
Best composite cock-or-GTFO face: Germany.
Best composite shit test face: Mexico.
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Someone get in contact with the IT dude who put this chart together. We need composites from all 192 countries, plus intra-country ethnic minorities like aboriginals, eskimos, gypsies and native americans.
Beauty will save the world. – Dosoyevsky
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Best post on this site.
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Italy? Wtf!?
Clearly, it’s India.
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Iranian women are much hotter than this composite makes it appear. Sorry Italy, I’m sticking with my Persians.
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I’ll take Spain….
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Its Ukraine. The website that spawned this article is mit shit full. Italian women are not that hot. I like them a lot and have been to Italy many times, but French women and German compete effectively with them. People in Eastern Europe tend to think Ukraine has the hottest women too, especially FSU nations.
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Who made this? Dienekes?
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Agree re Irish girls. My sister is a fucking freak of nature lesbian nun. What a filthy pig. I truly wish “it” had died aborning! Surpriseed by the Puerto Rican girl. Como se llama???
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I’ve been waiting for a post like this. Golden and (mostly) true. I think you’re too hard on Wales frinstance, but meh. Bang on.
As for Italian feministas, they are in a lather over Berlusconi. Good times.
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I’m wondering just how accurate these composites really are in that they don’t square with my reality. I smell selection bias at work here. Where did they get the pictures and how were they chosen to be plugged into the algorithm. There are less pictures of ugly women and more pictures of good looking women.
I have doubts, but I have serious doubts about the English composite. Almost no women in the UK look anything like that. Something has gone horribly wrong over there.
Same thing with the Russian one. There are many good looking Russian women under 25, but twice as many (over there) that look like a T-34 tank as well. Nobody talks about them when discussing general Russian female hotness.
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The girls from England, Spain, Germany and France are not really composites, otherwise they’d look a lot more…. Muslim.
AA
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Also agree on the Irish girls. I’ve known (infer what you will) two Irish girls who were breathtaking, stunning, beauties – elevens on the scale of one to ten. And dozens who were well below average. And I can’t think of a single one who was merely cute.
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best girlfriend: Israel? This must not take personality into the equation at all. Israely girls are ball-busters with masculine traits.
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Greece is better than Italy.
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What, did they leave the Czech composite out so the others would have a fair chance? And what about Australians?
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Greeks are ballbusting maenads with DC levels of shit-testing hypergamy.
Where is Estonia? I demand NSF funding.
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How do you know if an Italian girl isn’t wearing any panties?
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There isn’t any US/American because we are a composite gorup of mutts – not an ethnicity.
[Editor: Not really. The native stock of America — before the great 1965 soft genocidal campaign — is Germano-English, with nontrivial Italian and Irish admixture.]
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I’ve been going crazy over Greek, Italian and Persian women for the past few years.
Especially Greek and Italian.
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I picked Italy too.
It’s not too late to put up a reader poll.
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No Americans are not that composite. We are still mostly European, and not that cross-married (Irish-Jewish, or Italian-Irish etc.) We are mostly what we were when our ancestors emigrated from Europe.
English women tend to vary across time from hideous to lovely, based on social control (particularly of drinking) or not. Without social control they tend to become dissolute and disgraceful. This has been the observation from Caesar onwards.
Attractiveness depends on a wide spectrum of women being selected for attractiveness. It is why it is generally correlated with middle class society. Big Man-ism means a few big men hoard what few attractive women are around and you get Central American women: short, fat, unattractive for the rest.
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The Puerto Rican is the best of the bunch and the English a very close second.
Not sure why the English chick is such a looker but with the PR girl it’s gotta be the genetic diversity.
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I’m going to have to disagree with you Roissy.
My top 5 of those composites is in order:
1. Thai
2. Greek
3. Vietnamese
4. English
5. Indian (North)
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There’s not one single composite of an Arab country. A rather glaring oversight.
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Where’s Brazil? And most importantly where’s a Brazilian ass composite?
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In order to line up the faces, the algorithm probably centers each face over the nose, making a composite with far more symmetry than “average”.
So sure, with perfect symmetry and averaged out skin flaws, no wonder they look good.
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Hey CR, you called it on the looks of Uzbek.
I am an Uzbek male and while I look predominantly white, I have been stopped a couple of times in my life being asked if I was a halfie or mix. My family is full Uzbek for at least 4 generations. Cool thing is white and asian people love me.
[Editor: I believe Uzbekistan is one of those countries at the crossroads of history, AKA the crossroads of bloodshed and rape.]
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I don’t get how Taiwanese ended up looking better than Chinese. Did the PRC harvest the organs of all their good looking women or something?
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Just get a black background and add a couple white spots for eyes and there you have it.
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I live in eastern Europe. If I would not than from this chart I would conclude that Polish/Lithaunian/Latvian/Russian girls are not too hot relatvely. From my travels I know otherwise.
Franch women have two distinct sub-types Northern (good looking) and Meditarrean(not good loking) In this chart it seems that only the northern type is considered.
English chick, while not among the best looking, looks at least on the level. This is just plain wrong. English women are just ugaugaugaugaugly.
So this chart is very discutable.
An observation – it seems different countries have different average hair length. In this chart short hair actually looks better, because averaged long hair makes a messy barbaric look. You can see how Indian girls certainly have an advantige because their foreheads are not overshadowed. But in real life those are countries whrere women sport long hair, where they are the most natural, feminine and beautyful.
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The Saudi composite would look like a ninja… best eyes, though.
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“Greeks are ballbusting maenads with DC levels of shit-testing hypergamy.”
Women of Greek background that are brought up in Western Countries e.g. Australia (after their parents or grandparents immigrated) tend to be spoilt, have overblown entitlement complexes and fat asses.
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So it really doesn’t matter where you live, fuck enough number of women and let your mind superimpose the lot to give you a sense of beauty when you look back on happy memories.
“Not sure why the English chick is such a looker but with the PR girl it’s gotta be the genetic diversity.”
agree, the english chick looks like best of the lot to me.
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“Il Capo
Where’s Brazil? And most importantly where’s a Brazilian ass composite?”
I second that!
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‘Bang Italy’
Has a ring to it.
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> South Indian girls may be
> smarter, but North Indian
> girls are cuter.
North Indian and South India are entirely separate countries and treated as such by Indians themselves (they just happen to be part of India for political/religious/historical reasons).
North Indian == Aryan, their holiest symbol being the swastika (found in all buildings, bricks, functions, decorations, temples, basically everywhere), the companion red dot worn by their woman (called the shubhtika) and all their languages being Indo-European variants of Sanskrit. (Indo refers specifically to India)
The religion and names of the about 600 million Aryans come from the holy Hindu (v)Eddas (the same books as the Norse Eddas) and that is the reason why even the Nazis (in falling back to their pre-christian history) adopted Vedic/Hindu words & symbols and spoke Hindi.
South Indian == Dravidian, the languages based on Tamil and religious traditions that are not based on sanskrit/vedas. The defining characteristic of the equal number of 600 million or so Dravidians, apart from their language, is that they give more importance to Shiva, who is not a classic Vedic god but part of the evolved Hindu Trinity. The temples are built differently and there tend to be a lot more aboriginal people amongst the Dravdian population.
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Wake up white man.
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#1 Italian
#2 Mongolian
I love their face shape.
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agreed with the selection bias thing.
also, some of the faces might look better if the proportions were adjusted to be more realistic (for example, the italian face is way too round).
i find the peruvian composite the most attractive one.
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My best would be Columbian.
The worst are Asians that look like catfish in the face.
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Just get a black background and add a couple white spots for eyes and there you have it.
Because Afghans are really out there?
There are countries like Syria, Tunisia and Lebanon where a composite could be made. Of course, really, the Arab world is just about jumbled ethnically as Africa or India. There’s a lot of difference between Rabat and Riyadh.
The big oversight is White Americans. Chateau’s right. It’s a new ethnicity, but it is an ethnicity.
BTW, while she’s not the most stunning, I found the Peruvian girl the most surprisingly attractive. The eyes really do a play a role.
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What would be most interesting is to play a sort of side by side comparison without the national labels. There’s a bit of selection bias involved. Personally, I find most Israelis obnoxious, self-entitled jerks, which biases me against the Israeli girl. I put in the same class with the Italian and the Greek, but I’m not sure that I rank her lower because of the label.
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Where are the Scots, damn it?
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North Indians are a lot more Islamisized, even if still Hindu–so, South Indians are better allies for the USA!
Isn’t Afghan girl hot??!!
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Dude, your Hungarian is hot.
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Roissy, I think you might find this site interesting:
http://www.beautyanalysis.com/mba_facevariationsbysex_page.htm
http://www.beautyanalysis.com/mba_reposefrontalmaskapplication_page.htm
The blue mask on the left, at the top is the shape of what the perfect female face would be.
Also, here a six part series on human beauty:
Also, your observation that women should be wide-eyed is wrong.
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I’d rank the top 10 as follows:
1. Uzbek
2. Greek/Iranian/Italian
5. Peruvian/Israeli
7. Indian/Ethiopian
9. English/Hungarian
Polish girls are very hot, but since there is a Northern type, which is kind of Baltic/German looking and a Southern type which is Italian/Romanian looking, the composite doesn’t do them justice.
The Iranian (Persian) and French women should also be hotter.
As regards the Irish chic, I’d had public sex with 2 of them – so spot on!
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Me likey the Swiss.
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No wonder Silvio B always seems so chipper!
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Not to mention horny!
http://tinyurl.com/49t76hx
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Fuck ’em all (literally)! That’s my motto.
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Too bad they left out Somali women, who are considered by aficionados to be the most beautiful women in Africa. It’s truly amazing how many of them look like a (young) Imam (David Bowie’s wife).
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I’m gonna guess Dienekes did indeed make this. Very reputable HBD researcher.
The averaging program is very powerful. We can see this by the good things it does to English girls, the average of whom is pretty darn cute.
Thank said averaging process. It might be expected to say this of a native but English girls are a varied bunch looks wise and although people dare not say it too publically, depend strongly upon social factors. Students are where the hotness is at, whereas the skanks can look like pigs, dogs, rats or similar vermin.
The averaged Hungarian girl looks like a vampire. Fitting.
I would attribute that to the generally tanned skin tones combined with the frequently light eye colour, as well as some examples who must be descended from the Ugrian tribes that settled there ages ago. That makes them unique beauties. I remember coming very close to pulling a striking little minx with gorgeous bangs, neotenous features and blue eyes that pierced into your soul. I think I just froze up like a rabbit. She was that kind of hot where you don’t quite remember exactly what they looked like until you have a picture to jog your memory.
The composite Irish and Welsh woman is not as attractive as the composite English woman. Infer at your leisure.
Frankly put, the Celts are not an especially hot bunch as a whole. Ruddy, freckly and/or pallid looking. Even with the hot ones, their bitch shield will stand up to all but the finest swords of sexual conquest anyway. English women have that Germanic component that provides ostensible healthy vigour. If you want hot Irish though, check out The Corrs or Hilary Woods, former JJ72 bassist. It’s not a chip-on-the-shoulder hatred for the Irish, especially not with family links and my best mate being of Irish stock.
Swedish girls are overrated.
Swedish was hot (they still turn out enough hotties) but feminism has masculinised her features making her look more boyish. A lot of people say German women are manly but it’s more a natural Germanic robustness (which can be charming to a point) than the product of social engineering.
Italy produces some of the hottest women in the world but whilst that composite is good, the actual average is less than remarkable. French are not hot. Iranians either wear a lot of makeup or naturally look that way. The Persian area has some hotties though, regardless. See also higher castes of India, for whom the Indian composite does no justice. Not pictured: Israelis’ zaftig yummies.
Overall I’m impressed by the efforts of the person who did this, obvious limitations aside. Some countries that would benefit from being on there are missing though, like Norwegians, Danes, Romanians, Estonians and Ukrainians who have more distinct looks than you’d think.
Just out of question Roissy, what is your ancestry? Anything deviating from one might liberally describe as ‘White Anglo-Saxon Protestant’?
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Based on facial appearance alone:
1. Greece 2. Italy 3. Puerto Rico 4. English
From the south pacific rim… it’s Thai, by a mile.
South Africa is damn close to being flatout ugly. That big wonking nose is a major turn off… not sure what you’re looking at there.
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It seems lots of Asian girls have the same nose, and some of the Asian girls do not look like I would expect their mean faces? We really need to know more about the data collection and sampling procedure!
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“Best composite wife: *does not compute*”
hahah laughed my dick off.
Seriously though good lord the Samoans are butt ugly and the Irish composite looks like she’d try and slip a plug up your ass when you’re fucking her, gross
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BTW, as far as the ethnicity of the average White American goes, they are in order:
1. German
2. Irish
3. English
See this handy White American ancestry map:
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Here is a Berlusconi appointee; Minister for Equal Opportunities. Go to about the 40 sec and 1 min mark of the vid. It’s enough to make a grown man cry.
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TOP TEN:
1. Greek
2. Italian
[gap]
3. Uzbeck
4. Israeli
5. Vietnamese
6. Thai
7. Filipino
8. Spaniard
9. English
10. African American
Korean is the hottest Asian? Are you fucking out of your mind? Are we looking at the same pictures?
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“The African-American woman looks like she could play second string defensive back for the Packers.”
We would’ve needed her last night with all our injuries. Go Pack Go!
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[…] has a long post up about this, please read it here. If you want to get to the good stuff, here’s the set of composites he’s referencing, […]
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“Doc” Watson was seminal blue-grass muscian. He was, like a number of musical geniuses, blind from birth. Even so, lots women noticed that he was star performer with a huge and devoted following.
If you got him drunk he would explain: “I just go by smell.”
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So far its all been about facial beauty.
What about body shape ?
A great body ( titts, ass, etc) with even an average face can make a huge difference in appeal.
I have seen many “cute” looking women with nice facial features and eyes but with dumptruck type bodies.
Damn shame really.
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Well, it’s clear that the creator’s intention was to omit any and all countries with significant ethnic diversity. Note the conspicuous omission of Canada and America — and the even more conspicuous omission of EVERY South American country.
All of them!
Colombia, Argentina, Uruguay, Brazil… not a peep from these countries, even despite the renowned beauty of their women. Probably omitted because their women are mutts, just like American women.
I would bet good money that a composite from any of the “mutt” countries — yes, including America, you haters who love to hate — would blow the others away.
The order of the list is also weird — the whole thing is in alphabetical order except the first one-and-one-ninth lines. Huh? Did someone doctor up the original?
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OK, fine, I didn’t see Peru.
Still, picking Peru to represent South America is like picking West Virginia to represent America.
Haters.
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Point to note is that Venezuela has more international beauty pageant winners than any other country.
Granted, that over there it’s somewhat of a National sport.
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The Polish chick was in the A-Ha! Take on Me video
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+ 1 for greek & italian
feminine jawline ftw
I seriously doubt that these are averaged faces, but still useful I guess if only covering the 6-9 range.
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Israeli women are, by and large, stunning. They are also, as previously mentioned, masculine and ball busters. I am reminded of the Andy Botwin character in Weeds who had an Israeli “girlfriend” fuck him in the ass with a strap-on.
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Welsh, Greek, French…
Those are the only ones I’d even approach in the bar. Average looking is just that. Average.
Call me Arthur Kade if you must.
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Some of these composites look weirdly squished vertically (like Italy or Germany). Also, they should have made all the heads approximately the same size. BTW, LOL at the average Mexican! Right!
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I’m going to Uzbekistan.
Anyone know where it is?
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Directly North of Afghanistan….
You’ll love the repression.
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ritmo rioplatense
Agreed.
With the exception of eastern Europe, the best looking women in the world come from countries where the genes are most diverse. Brazil (African, Portugese and other European), some of the Latin countries (Native American, African and Spanish), Mediterranean (African and European) have the best looking women.
If chicks in the US weren’t so fat and obnoxious we would have the most fuckable women in the world. How ironic.
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Not this one, sorry to say.
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“If chicks in the US weren’t so fat and obnoxious we would have the most fuckable women in the world.”
Instead we have the most fucked women in the world.
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Roissy, I think you missed the obvious attraction of Swedish girls even though its staring you right in the face now. The composite Swedish girl looks very feminine.
I’d wager that in this time of fuglies, manjaws and fatties the reason Swedish girl’s are hailed as beauties is not because they are so beautiful, but because they are so feminine compared to the average Western warpig.
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“Instead we have the most fucked women in the world”
or most fucked up women in the world.
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For the longest time Tokyo’s runways have featured half-Japanese/half-American models. They are stunning.
Hybridizing either gives you a knockout or a dog.
There are DNA reasons to believe that the last two races to separate were Caucasian and Oriental.
Ancient burials strongly indicate that the true source of Caucasians was Siberia. Scots-Irish tartans are still being dug up in Mongolia.
Horse domestication and the invention of the RV/ ox-cart most likely occurred there and then. The ground is so flat road construction was not needed. A grazing economy forced chronic mobility.
When conditions turned sour it was quite easy to just keep going West. This migration may even link into the mysterious ‘Sea People’ mentioned by the Egyptians. The timing is pretty close and their use of heavy freight-carts pulled by oxen shocked the Egyptians. By Middle East standards oxen were huge. That the Irish could cross lakes and channels is obvious based upon their terminal location.
For at least 40,000 years the weather in Siberia has systematically gotten worse. 9,000 years ago the Gobi was lush. Finally the Tibetan plateau rose high enough to vector rain away and caused a dead zone between Siberia and China. Such a partition would isolate genes and provide two races. Maybe the split occurred even further back in time.
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“Swiss” should really put some ice on his jaw and get that swelling down.
It amuses me that even in composite, China is still cross-eyed.
The biggest surprise for me is India. I didn’t expect her to look that cute.
Am I the only one who thinks the Filipino is cutest?
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At least this puts to rest the stupid myth that Eastern European women are exceptionally beautiful relative to anyone else.
They just gain points for not being fat and dressing better. That is all. Nothing genetic.
They gain more points for wanting to fuck and marry outside their ethnicity, due to EE men being very beta (the same reason Oriental women want to marry outside of their race).
Good post.
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Where are the Turkish babes?
And… Italy? Seriously? (scratches head, then shrugs and lets roissy take all the ugly plain white-bread girls with pretentious accents)
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Haha. Too true.
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The Peurto Rican face is by far the hottest. It’s not even close. Isreali is next, followed by Greek, Russian, English, Uzbek, and Vietnamese. I also agree that not having one for Brazil is a fucking travesty.
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‘soft genocide’
lolzzllz!!!!!
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In this link the photos are larger (and include males):
http://pmsol3.wordpress.com/2009/10/10/world-of-averages-europeave/
Russia ftw.
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Rationalization Hamster speaks… our women given him far too much credence or, at least, want-to.
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Originals here:
http://pmsol3.wordpress.com/
I think that they generally look better at higher resolutions.
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I liked the Peruvian the best which is very surprising based on my knowledge of their women. Their average face is fucking bangin’ though. I would rate the French, Spanish, Israeli, Italian, Welsh, Polish, and Swiss faces 9’s. The Samoan is the only one below a 7 and the majority are 8’s.
It would be interesting to see how differences in preferences correlate with the race/background of the person doing the judging (I’m half Eastern European Jewish and half Scotch/Irish). CR, maybe you could make a poll to that effect the way you did with the “perfect 10” post.
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Roissy you mofo, I was writing an article about the same photo…its all good, I liked your analysis.
Like you said, this chart has no credibility unless all of the world’s countries up there. Glaring exceptions include:
1) Argentina
2) Norway
3) Canada (specifically Montreal)
4) Holland
5) Colombia
6) Denmark
7) Host of Caribbean countries
8) Estonia
9) Denmark
10) The list goes on….
‘Samoa has the ugliest women in the world..’
Have you been to Bolivia? Damn..
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When the KMT lost the Chinese Civil War they fled to Taiwan and took all of the hot chicks with them. No joke.
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The Irish composite looks weird. This is a better one
http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2010/07/guess-their-origin.html
still the observation holds strong jaw, week color contrast and thin lips.
Top 5
Greece
Peru
Wales
India
Italy
Hottest Asian Vietnamese
Hottest African: None
A note on peruvians that face is really not representative of peru in general the Indio majority is not at all attractive.
That said the urban mesitiza chicks who it is presumably actually based on are fucking incredible the first night I was in Lima I went to a bar and saw 5 women who were all easily in the top ten hottest women I Had ever seen and it was just a little place with food and live acoustic guitar not even a dance club.
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Where is the love for the Puerto Rican chica?
Fine as hell. Probably the best.
Was not impressed by English chick.
Samoan is by far the worst. Irish is pretty gross too but on the bright side she looks like she could be yoked to a plow if your mule died.
Greek, Swiss, and for some reason Hungarian make my spidy-senses tingle. I find the Greek jawline ideal.
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What I see is Irish girl looks like a mom. They may be beautiful but age early. However, chinky girls age beautifully and I like their butts. Indian women particularly North Indian are beautiful. South Indian women tend to have manly faces.
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Irish looks like a shark crossed with a gangster mixed in with and James Bond played by Sean Connery and a little bit of Robin Williams as Mrs. Doubtfire.
Samoan looks like The Rock.
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Chateau is absolutely right about the Australian Aboriginal women and I’d also like to add the Maori women of New Zealand.
This sisterhood fell out of the Ugly Tree and hit every branch.
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The composites are way off for the Indian faces.
Indian (North) gals aren’t all typically so pretty as the composite. North India also includes 7 eastern states, residents of which have far-eastern features (resembling China).
South Indian gals are far more prettier than the composite, though on the plump side. They also have very pretty eyes and this does not come across in the composite.
But facial features or skin color is only part of the game.
Typically North Indian women would be ball-busters and more free-spirited, while the South Indian girls tend to be materialistic but homely, balanced in life with a lot of empathy.
I should know, I come from one of geographical part and am married to a gal from the other geographical part.
Cultural differences exist between North and South India because North India always had to face the brunt of invasions, even now from from China and Pak while South India is cocooned by the ocean on 3 sides. There is a lot more intermingling of races and invaders in the North with more aggression to fend off invaders while the peaceful South focused more on trade and commerce.
The Aryan and Dravidian theory is debatable, it is seen of late as imposed by western historians upon India. Swathika is an ancient symbol for us from thousands of years, just because some scumbag in Germany copy-pasted it from us 70 years ago doesnt mean we descend from them.
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I like the concept of the composite photos, but I have to question the source images for Peruvian women, who on average are beyond busted. The composite here is a top 1% woman from the country.
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tend to be materialistic but homely
Dude, go learn what ‘homely’ really means.
It is funny that some FoB Indians are still so stupid about their vocabularies.
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“Best composite wife: *does not compute*”
For a second there I got excited. But God that’s too funny.
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Looksame.
Classic.
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“Why is America, the most powerful country of the 20th century, missing from this comparison?”
Here is the American chick from the same source
http://pmsol3.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/whiteamericanfemale.jpg?w=400&h=623
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There are a lot of broad noses in the world. Like red hair, the noble, aquiline nose is a vanishing trait. Too bad.
Here are the composites of actresses from India, China, and Japan. The Asian women considered beautiful have slimmer, more European noses.
http://pmsol3.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/averagebollywoodactress.jpg?w=400&h=578
http://pmsol3.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/averagechineseactress.jpg?w=400&h=577
http://pmsol3.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/averagejapaneseactress.jpg?w=400&h=523
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Its ridiculous how attractive they all are.
My pics are Swiss, Russian, Welsh.
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Frank Rizzo said: “When the KMT lost the Chinese Civil War they fled to Taiwan and took all of the hot chicks with them. No joke.”
Sure did. All the classical Chinese art from the Beijing museum too.
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Anon2, somebody pissed in your breakfast today, is it ?
First, I am a proud resident of India, not a wannabe FoB, so keep your presumptuous remarks to yourself.
Second, YOU check the meaning of homely at Webster’s dictionary: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/homely . The meanings under (1), (2) and (3) are what I meant. “Homely” is a common word in the Indian usage of English which implies someone who is simple and unpretentious.
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I’ve been all around the world and the best looking women are hands down Latvian/Estonian. Stands to reason too as it’s the melting pot between Eastern European, Russian, and Scandinavian genetics.
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Nutz,
Mexico is the melting pot between the Spanish and Amerindians. Melting pots are only as good as their constituent elements. Those that make up Latvia/Estonia come from a relatively narrow range–each featuring the cream of the human crop.
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Italians? No way. They have beautiful faces (granted they shave their mustaches) but they have tiny titties and fat pear shaped bodies with shelf-asses and thunder thighs to rival any welfare Latina.
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“What jumps out is how attractive the average female face looks.”
That suggests a way to mathematically determine which group is prettiest. Say you’ve got two groups with equally pretty average faces: the group with the lower standard deviation among its sample will be the one where you’d be more likely to find a pretty individual woman if you were picking at random.
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Italian women were always famous for their beatuty. However they do not age well. So if yuo marry of a 15-20 year old giril she will be beautiful, but will look like an old witch by the time she reaches 30
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French Canadian women, nuff said.
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Can’t believe the Greek chick is so popular. About 1 in a 100 are beautiful. Been there lots of times. I agree with the above post about the Greek chicks in Australia etc are fucking spoilt princesses. Nouveau riche trash. Eastern Europeans are the babes. Face is not everything. Tall, slim EE babes with big tits. Love it.
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“uncreative Northeast Asian countries”
lol!! …..
http://asianhistory.about.com/od/asianinventions/tp/50-Amazing-Asian-Inventions.htm
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roissy has brought out the /b/tards
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@Roissy:
“beautiful female faces all have the same traits in common — symmetry in the horizontal and vertical”
That would be a 4-holer – gets my vote only if the mouth in the upper half can’t speak.
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That’s odd. I visited Budapest ( That’s Hungary. Durr.) and The average woman there was very hot. Because it’s a big city or did the researchers not use a large group?
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Cute.
One quibble: Dracula was from Romania, not Hungary. 😉
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I live in Italy and many women here are wondeful
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The country that birthed Monica Bellucci is the place you want to live if beauty— and fucking beauty — is your raison d’étre.
I have travelled far and wide and I cannot agree more. Italians are special. Italy is special.
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Actually Count Dracula was from Transylvania and claimed to be ethnic Szekely (in the book, not talking about Vlad the Impaler) thus making him more Hungarian than Romanian.
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Haha, I had the same feelings about the dancing scene in the matrix. In that huge orgy it seemed like no one gave a fuck about paternity anymore, even though we know that true frontier societies are pretty fucking strict. GO machines!!!
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Wow. I’m really surprised about the rating of Uzbek women. Even without seeing this post, years ago I thought some of the most beautiful women I’ve ever seen came from there but didn’t think anyone else noticed.
Turkic women in general I find striking. They seem to have the right mix of soft Asian femininity balanced with more western angular features plus a hint of middle eastern and fiery Mongolian exoticness.
I think Greece should take Italy’s place though. The hottest kind of women in Italy I think are more common there.
And yeah I agree with the poster about Scotland. They should have been included as they’re very noticeably different to the rest of UK. I know a girl with Scottish ancestry and I remember years ago thinking her background was from a different part of Europe!
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“Best composite girl-next-door: South Africa AKA Holland.”
Actually the Dutch component in Afrikaner ancestry isn’t predominant. It is about equal parts German, French and Dutch. Still, the composite looks a bit too dark and strange to be representative of the average Afrikaner or Afrikaner plus English girl. It probably includes pictures of women from the rather large Portuguese, Greek, Jewish, Lebanese and Indian communities.
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LOL, I’m the one doing those averages, on “postnational monitor”
Whoever you copied this from (who copied it from me) did not do South Africa correctly, it is not South Africa, the picture is for Argentina.
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I started doing these for fun over a year ago while bored at work. LOL
My site is here, I have added more since that time, an American, Austria, Hungarian, etc.
http://pmsol3.wordpress.com
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Well isn’t this post kind of racially targeting 🙂
It’s crazy how people can average out everyone’s face to form an ultimate face to represent a country. If we could now find the best woman to cook a lasagna, then I’d be set.
Garfield’s got nothing on this stomach!
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I’m gonna take a second to whoop it up for the black chicks. There is just no way that seeing any of these women on the street you wouldn’t want to smash that. Those women (but especially the West African chick) make my dick stand tall proud long and strong.
I know this blog makes cottage industry out of ripping on black people, but I just had to represent for quick a minute.
dragnet out/
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Fun. Miss Average Irish grabbed my crotch once at a house party, but wouldn’t put out.
Miss Average Welsh is better at full size.
Anyone who books a flight to Greece based on those image s will be disappointed, and anyone who goes to Sweden or Iran will be pleasantly surprised.
Miss Average Austrian at Dragon Horse’s web site has a great subtle smile. I smiled back.
Mr. Average American is Ben Affleck.
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Bills
It’s funny how much Roissy does rip on black people with his “race realism”, HBD pimp shitck, however, he is praising the work of a black man. LOL
I am a DBA (and program a bit), and I’m also an African American living in Switzerland, about to move to Germany. I don’t have much time to do these composites like I used to. Work is too busy. If you want to know how i do these, it is not that complex really.
I created an account on this site:
http://www.faceresearch.org/demos/average
I’ve traveled a lot, studied abroad (years ago) in China, taught English in Japan, and now live in Europe. Being naturally detail oriented, I started to notice various differences in the appearance of ethnicities, nationalities. I first started paying attention to this in Asia. Before living in China I thought all Asians looked the same (as they think all blacks look the same), but now I can generally tell the difference between Japanese, Koreans, and Chinese. Having been married to a Japanese woman for almost a decade helped that.
Anyway, to the point, after creating the account I just looked for the top 10 last names for the country and started searching for the country name and surname on Google Images. There are some problems, one is some nations men take more pictures than women and vice versa. You need pictures that are face forward with as little smile as possible. Most people turn their head to an angle and smile taking pictures. Another thing is, in the UK or Ireland, I had to try to verify that the last name was stereotypical of an ethnicity (Welsh, Scot, Irish, English) and that the person is at least living in a given location, because of the overlap in surnames. That was a bitch to do. I use about 15-20 pictures per composite, to get that I have to go through probably 2,000 pictures. I also search on student association websites, university staff, union sites, etc. The pictures are random, but no grossly overweight people, no people that look over 60, no people that look under 18.
Some nationalities (especially Muslims) it is hard to find pictures of women. It is easy to find pictures of French women and Italian men, but not vice versa. It is also not easy to find pictures from small nations (Finland) or nations where most people are poor and have no internet access (most of SubSahara Africa, some areas of Southeast Asia, Central Asia, etc.
Despite Roissy’s bitching, I have done Americans, which I put on the site.
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@Yarr
Hungary is a big melting pot. The population was wiped out almost completely a few times in history, we are largely a mixed breed of mongolian, hun, turkish, little bit of romanian, little bit of austrian, some gypsy, some slovak, some this and that.
People tend to say hungarian girls are pretty, I think it is just because everybody can find his kind here – I know just as much natural blondes as naturally black-haired girls. You just don’t notice the rest ( :
And let me add that yes, bold mixes can turn out very good, but also very bad: while I was living in Denmark, I saw a girl who looked like half-Asian, half-Scandinavian.. small pig-eyes and her jaw like the front of a tractor.
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From Dragon Horse’s Blog, the average White American female looks cute enough, and the average male is good looking (no homo).
BTW, this Chateau post was funny, it takes a lot to make me laugh but I did LOL a few times. I love how you relish in dishing out political incorrectness.
Nothing like PC getting smashed in its face.
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if the composites were of photos of typical women from each country, rather than cream of the crop 16-22 year old nubiles, the comments here would be considerably less enthusiastic.
but then again, we don’t really care about the 5’s and 6’s of the world, do we?
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I posted these before:
http://breedingbetweenthelines.com/home.htm
also:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_histocompatibility_complex#MHC_and_sexual_selection
and postulated that the best looking girls are from areas that had the most genetic diversity (aka from areas where there were lots of different peoples interbreeding).
Italy (because of Rome) fits in that theory nicely. People from all over the world came to Rome and its far enough in the past for those genetic differences to get mixed nicely into the majority of the population. People could say that South Americans would be even more mixed, but thats not really so. They’re just native girls mixed with a relatively small number of European men.
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And let me add that yes, bold mixes can turn out very good, but also very bad: while I was living in Denmark, I saw a girl who looked like half-Asian, half-Scandinavian.. small pig-eyes and her jaw like the front of a tractor.
damn that genghis khan!
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itsme:
I don’t put pictures of known 16 year olds in my composites. I did all the ones above, read the post I made concerning my process. I also don’t use actors or models unless otherwise stated on my site. All the people are “normal”, some quite unattractive, if you look at the many of the source pictures.
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Also… you might find these interesting:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fayum_mummy_portraits
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and to Dragon Horse…
Roissy doesn’t rip on black people, read more thoroughly, he just objectively states what he sees.
You said yourself “Being naturally detail oriented, I started to notice various differences in the appearance of ethnicities, nationalities”.
Ok… if you can admit that Inuit and Maasi people differ in height or body style, why is it such a leap to admit that those same people… who have such drastically different bodies, may have different brains? Different people evolved in different areas with different challenges. The brain is an organ, a body part, just like anything else, and in fact its more subject to differences because of its complexity.
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Science:
Well I can definitely see we have different brains, and I would wager which one is inferior to most tasks. Let me retire to my chateau (a real one) in the Alps. My wife is making spretzli and weisswurst tonight. Guess my “Congoid” brain prepared me for such a life. Thank God. 🙂
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Ukraine needs to be in there. Ukrainian women in their prime are gorgeous.
To be honest, I’d probably have all of these women in the right (wrong) circumstance.
But if I went grocery shopping it would be: France, Uzbek, Greek, Italian, Ethiopian, Israeli, Indian, Peruvian, Spaniard, Japanese, Swiss, Polish, Spaniard.
They key to a healthy life is a balanced diet.
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on an unrelated note:
http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/the-best-questions-for-first-dates/
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@Dragon Horse
You’re taking it the wrong way. No one said anything about superior or inferior. You brought that up. I’m just saying, its naive to think that every single group of people has the same blank slate brain. Do you honestly believe that every one of the many different-looking people around the world evolved their differences due to environmental pressures… but their brains remained exactly the same? Or evolved to be exactly the same as each other? Is that what you think?
I mean, what is it that you’re saying? Bodies can change but brains can’t?
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@dragon horse
i wasn’t being entirely serious with my previous post.
but i do think that perhaps averaging faces together does, as some commenters have already observed, tend to ‘polish out’ the flaws which results in an ‘averaged face’ that may look quite a bit better than the faces taken individually.
for example, if you take 20-30 photos of women who are decidedly 4’s and 5’s, and composite them together, i wouldn’t be surprised if the composited female face ends up being a 6 or 7 or possibly higher. so while that ‘averaged face’ is a 6 or a 7, the ‘average female’ of that set is still really 4-5.
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I wish they all could be California gurls–they’ll melt your popsicle.
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last comment for today as the good Ms. Dragon Horse needs help…
itsme:
I agree with you.
Science:
I think there are likely “average” differences, but they are marginal.
[Editor: Marginal? Compare and contrast:
Congo vs Switzerland.
0-10 rapes by white men of black women in 2005 vs 37,460 rapes by black men of white women in 2005.
No, my exceptional black man-slash-water muddier who escaped to Europe for the good life, the truth is just the opposite — our differences are much more ingrained, intractable and essential than are dreamt of in your ego-assuaging philosophy.
Thanks to devious blogs like this one, the era of the big lie — the lie that humans are infinitely malleable and human groups are all the same under the skin — is coming to a much-deserved close.]
I’ve lived a lot of places, and I know many people from many more places that I likely will never go to. My ex-wife is Japanese, my current wife is Swiss. Hell you would be shocked to know how many similarities there are between Swiss and Japanese people (I think it has to do with the mountain isolated culture thing)…in any case I think a lot of what we chalk up to tangible differences are ones of culture. I believe there are more than likely biological differences in average personality and intelligence, but I believe the most differences we find are actually in-group. Meaning that the overlap between two groups is usually quite large. I have found brilliant people everywhere, even in places like Ethiopia. I have also worked with assholes everywhere. I have also found that people like to focus on two differences more than the 200 similarities, because people are hardwired to be groupist and tribal. Part of that group orientation is to define the group by what it is not as compared to the “other” and there is always an “other”.
In the end I don’t spend too much time worried about those things, because they are really pointless in daily life. I work as a consultant with an African from Nigerian (arrogant as hell), 4 Indians (all Tamil and quite quiet and friendly), a Russian (major asshole drunk), a German (typical by the book and easily annoyed and inflexible), and a Jewish American woman (my boss…who is very anal and always worried over things that have little consequence). Then there is me, black guy who grew up in the Midwest and South, pretty stereotypically moderate American.
We all seem to work for this multinational firm and get work done. We also often work with a branch in Southeast Asia, full of ethnic Chinese, who seem intent on screwing things up. They are not “dumb” it is more an issue of needing a lot of babysitting.
Notice I live in Switzerland and work with no Swiss people? that is because there is an I.T. shortage, Swiss folks don’t care to major in that type of thing, so they mainly leave it to Indians and Germans.
And you know who we all talk about being the strangest people on earth? The most hard to understand? The Swiss. LOL Hell my wife is Swiss and agrees they are barely sufferable. Meanwhile, the closest people to her culturally, the Germans (as with most Swiss) she wishes all went home tomorrow (although she knows that would kill the economy). You would think based on cultural, genes, language, that Swiss would be in love with Germans. No. The opposite, they are the most disliked foreign group (after the blanket Muslims (mostly Turks)).
NOt shocking, my 6’3 (189cm) black American behind was treated much better in Japan, than ethnic Koreans or Chinese who are far more related to the Japanese. I knew an ethnic Korean girl who caught hell in Japan (and South Korea), didn’t fit in anywhere.
In Switzerland if I speak broken German I am treated with condescending compassion or overt discrimination because people think I’m an African refugee (usually Nigerian). If I speak English, even if the listener can barely understand, they assume I’m American treat me nicely. LOL Obviously a “class issue”, not so much racial.
My point is the world is quite complex and the reality of my everyday existence is one that is not going to be reflected in some HBD sterile bias and politically driven right wing message board. LOL I wish life was that simple, but it is not. Some folks need to stop “frontin” and get out the house more, and maybe also out the country…
I’ve never been anywhere that I found the people so different from me “”mentally” I could not get on with them, sorry. Humans are still the same species, we are not aliens or subspecies. Try thinking about the commonality and maybe you won’t think so much about where everything is foreign and different.
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There is a subspecie of beautiful woman that is unique to a certain kind of northern Europeans: I call her kind “luminous blonde.” They have that creamy complexion and blue eyes, and a kind of sharp radiance about them.
They’re most common among Scandinavians but they appear among Anglo/Germans and Slavs too.
Also, never understood the Monica Belucci thing. Granted, I only saw her in one movie (Malena) and she may have been past-peak in that one. But based on that one film, she seems like an OK brunette, though pushing maximum density on the thighs and udders.
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@Whackjob: Swathika is an ancient symbol for us from thousands of years, just because some scumbag in Germany copy-pasted it from us 70 years ago doesnt mean we descend from them.
They didn’t say that, they said they were descended from you guys.
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Overlapping bell curves between blacks and whites or NE Asians, not platonic spheres of different levels of IQ.
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PA: a subtype of that is somewhat more common but slightly less luminous among Finns and Estonians than Scandinavians proper.
They don’t always photograph as well as they present themselves in person, either.
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Look at the Puerto Rican girl.
Time to head south, boys.
BIG oversight is Venezuela. Miss Venezuela wins the Miss
Universe contest just about every other year.
Clearly the winners here are the Latin ladies: Puerto Rico, Greece, Italy, Venezuela, Colombia, Peru….
Down with Ameriwenches!
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Not to sound like an anti-generalisation pussy, one has to consider the spread of samples. Appearances change according to socio-economic differences (quality of stock) and occupation (testosterone levels), and many other things. If you select your sample from a load of soccer players, you’re bound to find lesbonic manjaws.
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You know, if you look at each picture individually, and just ask yourself, “Am I attracted to this woman?” then it’s true –
Italy wins.
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I think Central African is the prettiest, but I’m a woman. I think if I was a guy, my opinion would still be the same. I like soft, round, but well defined features. Too many sharp angles in a face makes me think “boy”.
IMO, the most beautiful Europeans are Polish. I’ve given some thought as to why that is, and I believe that it’s because they’re pale but generally have very well defined features and actual lips, like Africans.
I think because I’m a non self hating Black person with the only “cream” in my genes being relatively dark Native Americans, I find contrast immediately attractive in a face…and of course, lots of junk in the trunk.
Polish people can be stick thin and still have a pretty face and a nice bumper. They also generally don’t get that Porky Pig look when they get fat like some others.
What gets them is alcohol. If they don’t drink too much, they age very well. If they do then they go to hell (male and female) by 35.
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PA,
Elin Nordegren would be a good example of this.
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@Nicole
If you’re an african american and you think you don’t have any white DNA in your history… you’re probably wrong.
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The Uzbek gets high marks because her face is striking. More strongly rectangular and angular than the rest.
I’m not so surprised about the Samoan woman, Samoan men have a serious propensity for being big and fat.
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Wah! Wah! Waycism.
Go Italy.
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The future is brown:
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” I work as a consultant with an African from Nigerian (arrogant as hell)”
Yeah, I know right? I’m Nigerian-American, so I know. The arrogance hides an incredible inferiority complex.
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Science, if there are any Europeans in my line, it was done in Africa. I haven’t had a genetic test done, but I’d view it as kind of pointless since my family knows our history.
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It’s hard to get a composite American woman because we are mutts — and there’s 300 million.
I’m more interested in the looks of ethnicities rather than the nationalities.
For example:
“There are 21 Ethnic Republics in the Russian Federation, From Kalmykia to Tatarstan to Chuvashia. And there are more than 150 Ethnic groups within the Federation’s expansive borders, including such tiny ethnicities as Aguls, Kola Lapps, and Wakhs…”
How the hell do you get a “national” average out of all that?
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I don’t know if the study authors are feminists or not, but they certainly did what feminists do –
THEY LEFT OUT THE DAMNING DATA.
They left out the ugliest composite face in the world: the American woman; the hatred and disdain for all men (except Alphas) etched deeply into every Botox’ed furrow.
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If you want to get relatively obscure, black Irish chicks (those from Galway and the like who have Spanish blood mixed with Irish) are very good as a collective.
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@Nicole
so you know every member of your family all the way back to when they first came to America?
Because lets do some math… if you trace your ancestors back to say 1750, which is a pretty good estimate of when a lot of slaves came here… you have 1,024 ancestors who lived in the United States. You know all 1,024 of them? If they came here earlier than 1750… say in 1700… then that number jumps to 4,096. So, you can account for every single one of those?
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(1) Uzbek
(2) Israeli
(3) Peruvian
(4) Italian
(5) French
You think Korean is the best of the Asians?! WTF? She’s about a quarter step above the Samoan.
Unsurpsingly the English and German ones look like they could be cousins. Of course, thanks to the Anglo-Saxon invasion of Britain, they basically are cousins.
In fact, I’d like to see a composites of composites. For example, it looks like you could arrive at the English face (or something very close to it) by combining the German, French, and Welsh ones.
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Oh, and the Ethiopian girl would be quite attractive with lighter skin.
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“Let me retire to my chateau (a real one) in the Alps. My wife is making spretzli and weisswurst tonight. Guess my “Congoid” brain prepared me for such a life. Thank God. :-)”
Yes, but the “Congoid brain” evidently doesn’t prepare a very substantial number of Negroes for “such a life”, and that is why you’re living in Europe and not Africa.
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Most interesting would be to compare the national average female and male faces. Some countries have pretty women but men who look like they’re from a different planet (Ukraine) others have handsome men and so-so women (Brazil) and there are a lot of variations that give occasion to think about national biology and national culture and history.
It may also be that nations with national average that is not attractive have, in the minority, the most attractive women. This may be so for Scandinavian countries, maybe both for men and women.
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No way does someone have over 4,000 ancestors in just 300 years. There is always some inbreeding.
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Rosenberg, game and chivalry alone show the variation within a race (as does the chart). Most of what’s seen as genetic is in fact epigenetic, and Jews have 20ish IQ points over 99.9% similar Arabs. The West African —> African American difference shows how rapidly racial characteristics can be altered over generations, often within the lifespan of a civilization. We’re seeing this now, in a bad way (feminism).
Ethiopian girl looks great with dark skin, as does the Indian one. Strangely, the “brown” Latinos don’t do much for me.
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ANY country is better for women than the US of Fugly.
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The Ethiopian composite looks a lot like a Kenyan girl I went on a few dates with.
1) Spaniard
2) French
3) Greek
4) Italian
5) Uzbeck
I would have liked to have seen some more South American composites. Light-skinned Latinas with dark hair are a personal favorite.
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@Dragon Horse
I can also relate to this is as my gf is Swiss
Having been there recently and having chatted to some Swiss natives and just from my own observations too, I can see that one of the main reasons many Swiss are not so fond of the Germans is cos they make no effort to speak Swiss German!
They assume the Swiss will switch into normal German for them, rather than making an effort to try to speak Swiss German, it’s a slightly arrogant attitude I think
Yes, I admit, Swiss German is trickier than German, but for anyone that speaks German, it’s not so much of a jump to at least get to conversational level in Swiss German
Beautiful country too, would move there in the morning if I could! Germany I like too, but I find the Swiss people in general are friendlier and less robotic than the Germans!
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Science, if there was anybody European in my line, they wouldn’t admit to it, and the contibution was, by now, very negligible.
It wouldn’t bother me if some new information was unearthed that revealed that there was one or even two somewhere back there. It’s just not the case as far as we know.
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Nice one@ whackjob, I am tired of American born South asians categorizing us and telling us to learn English. I don’t blame them because most of their impressions about us come from their motel owning parents who moved from India and didn’t speak English too well.
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Anon,
A few points:
1. Remember that the term, “Black Irish” is an American one and there is no such term in Ireland – it was originally used by Cherokees/Mixed-Cherokees in the US South to pass as Irish to avoid being deported to the Midwest. In the American usage people of majority Native American heritage classed as “Black Irish”, would be the likes of Johnny Cash.
2. Likewise there is no recent – say 2,500 years – Spanish blood in Ireland. There are only 3 families in Ireland allegedly descended from Spanish Armada, all in Donegal in the North West of the country. As Ireland was part of the British Empire at the time, the few Spanish that came ashore were rounded up and executed.
3. Kerry, in the extreme South West of the country is the only place where their is a slight majority of dark haired Irish people, and where people have a more cream colored complexion, instead of the usual very pale. Here an image of a Kerry Gaelic Football fan:
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@Cyning..The Aryan theory assumes that most of the inhabitants of northern India are descendants of an Aryan European race which can be traced all the way back to somewhere around Germany
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I’m all about size, the less the better.
Which countries have composite spinners? Give me a girl under 5’4″ and under 100 pounds, and I can work with just about any not-old, not-African, and not-Samoan face.
BTW, best composite girlfriend = Israeli? Someone’s been watching too many re-runs of “Date Night.”
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Average women’s faces based on rating ranges on Hot or Not.
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Average women’s faces by age, all at least rated 9.5 on Hot or Not
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No Can Do said:
Italians? No way. They have beautiful faces (granted they shave their mustaches) but they have tiny titties and fat pear shaped bodies with shelf-asses and thunder thighs to rival any welfare Latina.
Dude, what can I say – I look for women with LOTS of junk in the trunk, but your term “shelf-asses” is new to me, I prefer Bootylicious or Callipygian.
Here’s my ideal woman’s ass:
😉
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Some averages for men and women by city.
Being Australian I found it interesting that they did two sets for Sydney – one male/female set for Bondi (trendy beachside suburb, very Anglo-Celtic) and another for Sydney University students (many international students). Amazing how different they look.
Sydney Bondi Woman
http://www.flickr.com/photos/istanbulmike/2268720556/in/set-72157603912122402/
Sydney University Woman
http://www.flickr.com/photos/istanbulmike/2268722162/in/set-72157603912122402/
Sydney Bondi Man
http://www.flickr.com/photos/istanbulmike/2268721392/in/set-72157603912122402/
Sydney University Man
http://www.flickr.com/photos/istanbulmike/2268722958/in/set-72157603912122402/
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Here is the source for the Sydney shots:
http://www.faceoftomorrow.com/
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Dragon Horse,
Great, insightful comment.
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@Nicole
if you want to make a wager, I’d be down. Get one of those online DNA ancestry tests… if you have more than 90% African heritage, I’ll pay you… however, if you have 10% or more Euro DNA, you pay me. I think you have even more than that. Whats your price?
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Newsflash–
Nigger only person to think Nigger most beautiful–Film at 11
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Science is Wrong said:
Rosenberg, game and chivalry alone show the variation within a race (as does the chart). Most of what’s seen as genetic is in fact epigenetic, and Jews have 20ish IQ points over 99.9% similar Arabs. The West African —> African American difference shows how rapidly racial characteristics can be altered over generations, often within the lifespan of a civilization. We’re seeing this now, in a bad way (feminism).
Both your statements are false.
1. Only Ashkenazi Jews have a much higher IQ on average (usually given at 112-115, versus 100 for US average), not Sephardic or Mizrahi Jews. Ashkenazi Jews are about 40% European.
2. African Americans are descended from West and also Central Africans, and are about 20-25% European on average, with 10% of African Americans being over 50% European*. That’s equivalent to the average African American have 1 grandparent who is European, and for 10%, having 1 parent who is European.
* such as Prof Henry Louis Gates Jr:
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“Remember that scene in the underground city of Zion from the Matrix sequel? The banging drums, primitive dancing, and rainbow of multicult love? That’s the Puerto Rican girl. I wanted the machines to win after that scene.”
HAHAHA! I thought the same thing! Way too ‘cultured’ for my liking.
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Off topic: man faces felony charges for snooping in his wife’s e-mail to discover affair.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technology/2010/12/michigan-man-faces-felony-charges-5-years-in-prison-for-reading-wifes-e-mail.html
… I’m starting to think the stormfront guys are onto something.
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… not stormfront, spearhead.
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That composite Bondi Aussie babe is smoking hot.
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The female Face of Tomorrow composite from Tel Aviv is also remarkable.
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Off topic: no, there really aren’t 100000 hookers in Dallas now:
http://www.dallasobserver.com/2011-01-27/news/the-super-bowl-prostitute-myth-100-000-hookers-won-t-be-showing-up-in-dallas/
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johnny …
Your link is fulsomely incorrect.
The beginnings of agriculture and domestication have been narrowed down to Southern Turkey.
They are all centered around Gobekil Tepe. The site is so old that it might actually pre-date the Oriental race, if we can even figure out when it split off.
The Oriental eyes are an adaptation that is unique among the races. It is suspected that they are linked to rice farming. On the oft chance that you’ve never had the displeasure to transplant rice in a flooded paddy during long Sun drenched days — let me tell you — you’d want Ray-Bans.
Of course, rice farming permitted an astounding increase in food per acre and set the Han onto exponential growth for centuries. Thusly, Oriental rice farming clans out competed all of the original founder populations like the Hmong.
It is of note that these populations even today shun rice farming. They just can’t compete. It’s the glare off the water that puts paid to any attempt.
It is only now bitterly acknowledged by the Han that they didn’t co-invent writing either. It came from the ancient middle east. It’s the nature of writing for its discovery to propagate like crazy. It never was invented twice.
BTW, the DNA has been back-checked — it’s Turkey all the way down.
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[…] has an interesting blog entry, with much humorous commentary, http://roissy.wordpress.com/2011/02/07/and-the-country-with-the-most-beautiful-women-is/ about a guy who used a compter program to do a facial averaging of women form 41 different […]
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Rob , it’s of no suprise to me that the “Sydney University” woman and man look more asian than the Bondi version.
Australian Universities have become shopping malls for University degrees to international students from China , India and other parts of Asia.
The level of immigration to Australia from India , China etc has in the last 10 years has been massive and the infrastructure of the major cities like Melbourne and Sydney is struggling to keep up with the population boom.
Walk though the Melbourne Central Business District and at times you could be forgiven you are in some Asian-Anglo hybrid of a city.
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The Korean woman is by far the least attractive of the Asians. Surprising, given the popularity of plastic surgery among Korean women.
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Mr.C, yeah I know, I work in the Melbourne CBD and do some teaching at a university so I see what the mix of people looks like. I guess I expected the composites not to look as different as they do.
Bob Smith, agree, love the Bondi woman(women?)!
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The 1-10 scale is outdated. My friends and I use the binary scale. 1′s and 0′s. 1= Would bang. 0= Wouldn’t bang. These assessments are not objective, but rather subjective to the assessors state of mind. A sober 0 might be a drunk 1. But all that matters is whether or not you or your friends think she is hot enough to bang, right.
When you say she’s a 5-7 how do you really know whether or not that is a green light?
The binary scale: An efficient scale for an efficient man.
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That Guy….
Ashkenazi norm close to 115…
Sadly Arabs norm close to 85 plus or minus…
So the gap is very great indeed.
BTW, global IQ average is now estimated as being 85-88 ish.
There are staggering numbers of dummies in the third world to include, especially, the under-castes of India.
Even Russia has a low national IQ. It’s due to massive ‘under-caste’ aka prisoner nations locked into the interior. They are non-Slavic and get the short end of the stick every time.
The only nations loaded with above average IQs — for some strange reason — end up in the G-20 + Israel. Imagine that.
This means that the Ashkenasi are a full two standard deviations above the global norm. Northern Europeans are one standard deviation above the global norm — as are the Northern Orientals.
Stranger still, there is a 90% correlation between the Smart Fraction of a nation’s population and GDP per capita. Statistically there is something special about having an IQ of 106 or better in terms of self-actualization.
BTW, IQ tests are pattern recognition tests. Reading, writing and arithmetic are not used. They can be orally delivered by proctors when necessary. Hence, there is no cultural bias.
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By the way, the vast majority of Chinese women (international students and Australian residents) are well below the 5/10 mark.
Not only are they average to ugly looking , they tend to be short and have unfeminine bodies.
Their Vietnamese sisters tend to be slimmer and more feminine but also have annoying voices.
The Indian women here tend to be either slim and feminine or ugly and dumpy.
Italian women in Australia are a very mixed bunch looks wise but the vast majority are spoilt princesses.
Greek women I have mentioned earlier.
By in large , Australian women tend to age badly … too much Australian sun (which is brutal on the skin) , excessive alcohol comsumption (that most Australian of passtimes) , smoking and bad eating habits.
Australian women in the major cities tend to be spoilt for male attention, any given Fri – Sun night at pubs, bars, clubs across Melbourne the ratio of men to women tends to be at least 2 : 1
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Schmoe said: “Off topic: man faces felony charges for snooping in his wife’s e-mail to discover affair.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technology/2010/12/michigan-man-faces-felony-charges-5-years-in-prison-for-reading-wifes-e-mail.html
… I’m starting to think the spearhead guys are onto something.”
Yup. If she’d done it, nobody would’ve cared or they’d have accept “oh, she HAD to do it because he did tell her where he was.” Isn’t CA a community property state, too? She can blow all his money in his checking account (and probably go it his e-mail, too) but he can’t check-up on her?
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@ NP
I like your scale, but I’ve long been a proponent of a 1-3 scale:
3 = a girl I would never bang, except under the most extenuating circumstances, like if she starts sucking my dick while at the peak of a roll on E.
2 = a girl I would happily bang, but not date, except maybe a handful of dates to places where no one would see me in order to get in a few more bangs before I disappear.
1 = a girl I would date, perhaps even marry under extenuating circumstances, such as having just met her that night in Vegas while next door to a wedding chapel while rolling on E. Or if she’s just about any under-35 working porn star.
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More composites, this time by the City of Sydney – men and women.
http://www.cityofsydney.nsw.gov.au/development/localactionplans/faceofsydney.asp
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Science agree with the blog author: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1354817/Playing-hard–Men-feelings-wraps-attractive.html
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Here’s a composite of American men and women, from the same study. Too long to see if anyone else already found this.
https://pmsol3.wordpress.com/2009/10/10/world-of-averages-populations-of-the-americas/
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Too right Mr. C, Aussie women who hit 30 look like theyre in their late 30s or even 40.
Take this TV personality for example…
I always thought she was a yummy 40 year old, but in actual fact shes 30. I see examples like this all the time.
It applies to men also – most of my mates in their late 20s already have grey hair and big bellies.
Its also the lack of greens in the Aussie diet. For the amount of sunlight we get we dont eat enough folic acid to combat its effects.
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So the upshot of all this is that Italian women will have yet another reason to be fierce and globally-minded hypergamous sluts.
Beati noi.
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Q: What’s the best thing about dating a Viet girl?
A: If you forget her name, you can guess ‘Minh Nguyen’ and be right 25% of the time.
Top column: Puerto Rico
2nd column: Philippines
3rd column: Israel
4th column: Russia
5th column: Spain
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Rob, Mr C,
Outside of Ireland, Australia seems the next most Irish place in the world, and I’ve read reports that between 27%-40% of Australians report some or all Irish ancestry – depending on the survey.
The next biggest groups would be British, with German a distant third, and in the last 50 years Southern Europeans, especially Greeks and Italians, and apart from Indians and Chinese, I read a lot of former Eastern Europeans and Balkans moved there in the last 20 years, especially Yugoslavians.
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Damn, I don’t really agree with the average face for the mexican girl. I could easily sit for 10 minutes in a mall and see tons of best looking girls than that one here in Guadalajara. By the way…do you know where the current Miss Universe is from? Guadalajara, Mexico
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I’m generally not attracted to East Asians, but South East Asians can be OK looking, like Vietnamese porn star Tila Nguyen (aka Tila Tequila):
http://binside.typepad.com/.a/6a00d834fd7f7353ef01156f20fd8c970c-400wi
and she’s also got less of a body like a plank than most East Asians:
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Awesome post. Subscribing to Dragon horse’s website
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Talk of “Viet” girls reminds me of an amusing story.
A cousin of mine was visiting a family friend who’s wife had just had a baby… they visited her in hospital.
In the bed next to her was a 30 something Vietnamese woman whom had delivered a baby a day or two before.
The Vientnamese woman’s husband shows up one afternoon, draws the curtains around his wife and from the noises eminating from their bed … went about fucking her for a good while , despite the visitors to the other patients being in the same room.
Now THAT is Alpha.
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Ouch.
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Mr. C…
Sounds like a C-section, for sure.
Tight.
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The winning composite is the Greek. The Italian does look like her not as pretty identical twin. Mommy locked her in the closet a few more times.
Though I wonder, as another commented, what racial pockets rather than nations look like.
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Small, symmetrical tits with perfect pointed nips are better than big, asymmetrical tits with areola spread.
Ok, but the best of all is small, symmetrical tits with perfect pointed nips and areola spread.
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I am surprised at the Mongolian. She is kind of cute and really beats out some of the other Asians. I guess the hot babe tribute from China shored it up back in the day(China had to pay a girl tax).
I would also say the Persian is unsurprisingly in contention to unseat the Greek. No, we should not bomb them.
The Irish is a disaster.
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@Race Traitor,
The Korean woman is by far the least attractive of the Asians. Surprising, given the popularity of plastic surgery among Korean women.
I once had an asian fetish but it is rapidly on the wane. Russians….just give me Russian bitches.
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The best mix would be an italian broad with the sexual repression of an iranian. Now this would be a woman that would fuck your brains out.
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the hottest races should just all breed with each other. It would solve global ugliness & Racism.
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“Small, symmetrical tits with perfect pointed nips are better than big, asymmetrical tits with areola spread.”
How small are we talking ?
Anything smaller than a C cup is small.
Give me a woman with nice pair of D’s – DD’s and I dont care if they sag somewhat in the longer term … nothing a bit of nip and tuck can’t fix.
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Slim ankles are also important … thick ankles and she is more than likely to be predisposed to stacking on the weight.
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The post itself and comments are all interesting & amusing, but It’s all a tempest in a teapot, all noise & fury signifying nothing. The composite’s editor (compositor?) himself has graced the chateau with a visit, and left us with a gift of his methodology– going through several thousand google images per race, and selecting 20 or so suitable pics to data-mine for the composite. This methodology is fatally flawed with sample sizes far too small to make any inferences on each race. Plus the obvious issue of *massive* selection bias, and the results are really only good for shits & giggles.
Oddly, I don’t disagree with the Chateau’s conclusions, especially regarding the eminence of Italian women and Vietnamese women’s asses. With enough experience ogling women, even small data pools can be thin-sliced to get solid conclusions, though, as always, more study is needed, especially detailed field work.
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stacking on the weight
excellent utilization of the word stacking. you could have said ‘putting’ on the weight but instead you chose ‘stacking’. Well done, well done.
Yes, cankles are a no-no. If a woman has cankles and a thick neck which runs into her trunk, cascading like a trapezoid down her entire carriage, it’s time to get the hell out of there.
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@Whackjob
You are nuts if you say south indian women is cute. THe pulp faced bulky sized women does not even attract attention from men.
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Seems that Roissy is clearly a crypto White Nationalist and I am very thankful for that.
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reminder: you guys are comparing a bunch of hypothetical women.
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224 comments on THIS bullshit? Wow.
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(r)evolutionary, technically you’re right. But in reality this shit is eerily good. Obviously, not all girls in those countries look like that at all, but a lot do and distinctively so. Don’t kiss and tell, but one rather exotic flag looks uncanny close (no, not samoan )). And yes, roissy’s comment of her is correct too, heh.
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There is no picture of a woman from Switzerland so how can she be the best closet slut?
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Baz:
I think Swiss just don’t speak Hochdeutsch well, and they feel embarrassed to have to speak it to someone who speaks it as a “native language”. Understanding and reading & writing a language is different from actively speaking it on a daily basis, many Swiss can’t easy do that with Hochdeutsch. You are right that many Germans act arrogant and refuse to even learn to “understand” Schwitzerdeutsch, Germans are also “more blunt” in talking (which the Swiss find offensive), but some of it I think is nationalism. You often hate the people closest to you or dislike them. You also do whatever you can to differentiate yourself from them (as Canadians do with Americans or Dutch also do with Germans).
One common complaint I hear is that ‘Germans steal our jobs”, but in reality it is the Swiss people’s fault. Germans (like myself) come here and do jobs that they can’t find Swiss to do (mainly IT, engineering, pharmaceutical, etc). Most Swiss don’t study that, and due to the fact most Swiss do not speak English well (unlike the Dutch and Scandinavians) the people are usually coming from Germany to fill these jobs (and the German economy is worse, plus Germans don’t need work visa to work here like non-EU/non-Swiss).
On the other hand, Italians here rarely speak good German and do “low end work” and the Swiss tend to like them. 🙂 An Italian construction worker or delivery truck driver named Paolo is not as threatening as Dieter the engineer who makes 120,000 Swiss Franks a year and drives a BMW. 🙂
Still the level of animosity toward the “Swabi” (Germans) is somewhat surprising, whereas people are indifferent to the Sri Lankens, Vietnamese, Thai, etc here. Most don’t seem to care about the Africans either.
It is the Turks and the Germans that seem to raise the blood pressure.
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mack look again, the Swiss girl is there
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The entire comment section shows that people are oriented to their ethnicity or country and have a bias towards women of their region or community.
Important thing is all those who are jealous of white beauty though desire to copulate with blond would not admit that blacks are perhaps second cousin of chimpanzees.
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* I am Irish and wholeheartedly agree with the ‘feast or famine’ tag. Most of my family, on my Mother’s side especially, are above average in good looks-both men and women! I am beautiful myself (and oh so humble, lol) but I didn’t realize how beautiful I was until quite late in life. Strange, but true.
Anyhoo:
I wanted to coment on Italy. I have travelled all over the world, and without a doubt, Italian people are incredibly gorgeous —not a ALL like the Italians I knew in North America, I might add. They are far above average in Italy itself.
They literally took my breath away. Even average , everyday shopkeepers were noteworthy goodlooking—I saw at least 30-50 truly beautiful- types A DAY while I was in Rome.
Secret: I felt ugly the whole time I was there, lol.
It was great to get back to the land of pale faces and endless rain to help restore my self esteem 😉
All I can say is : VIVA ITALIA!
(btw: Monica Belluci is divine, no doubt, but her husband Vince Cassel is delicious as well )
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For what its worth, the country with the hottest chicks by my taste that I’ve been to isn’t at the link: Turkey.
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@Q.S.
Amen.
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How come the South African composite is WHITE?
I thought that black africans were in the huge majority over there?
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Science, at 10%, I wouldn’t take that wager because of the Native American ancestry.
As I understand, before they recorded that kind of thing, some Catawba mixed. I have great aunts who can pass for White to the untrained eye. They insist that they’re not White and don’t have any European ancestry (at least after the originators’ migration) either though.
I don’t think that if they’re willing to accept the possibility of European originators, they’d have too many issues with a recent European.
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The average “Russian” show above is more likely a Moscow/St.Peterburgh average. Russia consists of so many ethnicities and white scandinavian-looking people live mostly along the western border, while the rest are asians.
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At science the future isn’t brown its yellow.
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yeah, sorry. like revolutionary mentioned, this entire thing is flawed since each picture is the average of 15-20 girls.
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Roissy, if you ever need more fodder for this blog, check out the first letter in this column:
http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/SavageLove?oid=6678484
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Was not aware the Chateau had such detailed knowledge of Irish girls lol. Some fieldwork, perhaps?
Men don’t worry as much about the manjaw over here, as long as the boobs are bigger than the chin, that’s the main thing.
The whole Irish public sex thing originated because of the turf smoke in the mud cabins, any type of vigorous exercise indoors inevitably caused death by axphyxiation.
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i like how the south african composite is white when in reality 80% of south africa is black…
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@workshy
only the whites are allowed to have cameras.
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The posted composited are right if you want to see how an average PRETTY/HOT girls from each country look like.
Some real world examples carefully picked by me:
Russia/Belarussia/some Ukraine:
Lithuania:
Sweden:
Finland (South):
http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/258/913/mineablomqvist_display_image.jpg?1276572669
Sure, there are some ugly girls in those lands and most of the ugly-ones have apparently asian/jewish/middle-east facial features.
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i am so not surprised that Italian girls are the most beautiful in the world…..although each culture has its own incredible beautiful woman.
Its not just a physical beauty we exude..its an inner beauty as well,that shines.I think its because,everything we do ..we do with LOVE.
Love is the most important thing to Italian girl.We love to be in love and we love everything….thats what makes us so beautiful.
❤
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the hottest races should just all breed with each other. It would solve global ugliness & Racism.
in the same way that composites of photos of ugly women can turn out more attractive, the progeny of two ugly parents can come out looking much better than both. conversely, two good looking parents do not guarantee equally good looking offspring.
if everyone on earth were good looking, being good looking would then have no significance. if there were no racism, we’d just find other ways to divide ourselves.
diversity and conflict are part of the natural order of things.
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France for the win. There is something subversive about their beauty. Even the ones that at first appear average. When you get to know them, they are the most naturally feminine women on earth. And its a real problem for your theories, Roissy, because they are all feminist socialists.
But a big component of french female beauty is that they take great care of their bodies, well into their forties.
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french has to win.
south africa, greek, italian, swedish, among the runners up.
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itsme…
If you read the whole thread…
The gal labeled South Africa is supposed to be Argentina.
White South Africans do exist and they’d be a cross between Holland and England. The only one I met was an 11 on a scale of 1 to 10. Hollywood beauty without any make-up. Amazing.
As for most African nations — they’re the creation of colonial powers, especially Britain, Belgium and France. They do not correspond with the true African nations/ super-tribes.
We see the same folly wherever the colonialists have left their mark.
The consequential civil wars will never end until the borders are corrected. For some reason the UN regards them as taboo.
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“There are computer programs that will superimpose a bunch of male or female faces to create an average composite of all the faces. ”
Pure fappery
internet geeks.
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blert said: “The consequential civil wars will never end until the borders are corrected. For some reason the UN regards them as taboo.”
Restoring the former status quo following conflict is the ideal of every diplomat… which assumes the attackee got attacked with “aggression” for no reason and usually ignores the reason the war started in the first place (namely bad borders, like in Africa). The UN buys into this wholesale… redrawing the border would “reward aggression” and wouldn’t be “impartial,” etc. This is why you usually see better refereeing at the ballgame than in real-world situations like in Africa.
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“The average “Russian” show above is more likely a Moscow/St.Peterburgh average. Russia consists of so many ethnicities and white scandinavian-looking people live mostly along the western border, while the rest are asians.”
Still a lot of Slav/Swede in the Urals. Its not just on the border.
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I wonder what mass immigration will do to the European faces in the long run…
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@hepsas
“THIS BITCH CAN GET LEGALLY MARRIED AND I CAN’T?!?!”
Hahaha! Savage kicks ass. No homo, heh.
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and speaking of little gems, here’s one on confident women as written here before:
“…Too Funny! The thing that makes SJP pretty has to do with her confidence. I am sure Sarah Jessica is laughing along with the rest of us.” — Cheryl R., Pasadena MD
from http://sarahjessicaparkerlookslikeahorse.com/the-feedbag/
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anyone forgetting to mention that euro girls age the fastest? I’m noticing a degree of propaganda on here. Ive been to puerto rico, and have known many brazilians in my home city, and they are the most exotic beautiful women on earth. Tan skin, round butts, perky round asses, diamond shaped hazel/green eyes, curly hair. Take a trip to one of these countries you will see for yourself. Also i have to discredit the whole ashkenazi iq thing, they werent smart enough to pass iq exams to enter the US about 100 years ago. They are successful because they banked off the holocaust and got over 60 billion from germany. They hire only their own kind, and are the best organized and networked coming from 2000 years of surviving in a very hostile europe, basically like a hard working, studious immigrant vs lazy spoiled native but times 5. Iranians are the smartest in the region no question. They are becoming a region power while the US has tried economical, political sanctions. The iranians with a very weak military compared to the US have neutered the US military option with proxy militias and unconventional counter tactics. When was the last time the US had “no military option” against an enemy? Russia. They also invented chess and are playing the game with the US and winning.
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the list certainly contains unbias charasteristics of each individual….
while i tend to agree with the representaion made i some what differ what beauty of the individuals..the top five i choose..
1 India
2 Russia
3 Peru
4 Mexico
5 Uzbek
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sdaedalus,
Sounds like you would not be adverse to a little Public Sex yourself – tastefully performed of course 😉
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@ThatGuy
I’ve had the Public Sex discussion before on this blog.
I get goosepimples in the cold, so given our weather, vanity would preclude. That’s even before getting on to the question of insect bites.
Might I enquire into the geographical venue of your al fresco excursions with Irish girls? I bet they didn’t take place in the rain.
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When I say Public Sex, I mean sex in a public place, with non-participants in the vicinity – not necessarily involving nature.
I’ve done the following:
1. Received a blow job while watching a movie at a cinema (Kilkenny). Other patrons probably though something fishy was going on, but didn’t say anything – probably too dumbfounded – just stared at my gf afterwards.
2. Had full sex – missionary position – in the back of my hatchback car, with the back seats laid down (Stradbally Woods). Upon completion noticed 3 hikers looking on, about 20 feet from the car. Waved to them, they left promptly.
3. Had full anal sex – doggy position – in the back of same car on the side of a fairly busy highway, with all lights on in the car (Kilkenny). Many onlookers honked their car horns as they passed, a few slowed down for a better look and gave me a thumb up or shouted something or other at me.
That’s just with Irish girls, I’ve had a few other public sex episodes in the US.
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I did hear things about those Kilkenny girls, lol. I’ve no connections with that part of the country myself.
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I guess Ireland is getting more used to that kind of thing:-
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1284335/GAA-star-camper-van-porn-scandal-Hurler-s-guest-role-video-sex-tour-Ireland.html
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sdaedalus,
For the right guy, Kilkenny girls are more than willing to act like “brazen hussies”!
But then I’ve since found that to be true of almost every women I’ve been involved with – you just have to tell them what you want of them 😉
BTW, when on date 3 with a highly polished Ivy League girl – who I teasingly had not had sex with yet, but who seemed ever so “hot to trot” – I said laconically over drinks, something to the affect:
“Hmm, I’m not sure if you are too conservative for my liking…”
She replied: “What do you mean conservative?”
Me: (steady gaze) “I mean sexually conservative… as in there are some things you wouldn’t do?”
Her: “Oh no, I wouldn’t say that, I’m probably average in that regard”
Me: “Well then, what exactly would you NOT be willing to do for me?”
Her: “Well, well, I guess… drink urine…”
Me: “And…”
Her: “That’s about it”
Me: “Hmmm, I see” (then changed topic)
By date 4 – a record for me – she looked in heat the whole time we slowly sipped drinks, till finally she said:
“Look, do you want to come back to my place tonight”
Me: (hesitatingly) “Yeah, I guess I could…”
Needless to say explosive, degenerate sex ensued.
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@ThatGuy
I agree that women usually only appreciate something if they’re not sure whether they’ll get it or not, this may perhaps be true of men too, I don’t know.
You seem to have had a lot of interesting life experiences.
Perhaps you should start your own blog and share your skills
(which presumably include considerable time management ability lol) with some of the less experienced guys out there?
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sdaedalus,
Starting a blog to write about sexual experiences is mostly just for keyboard jockeys – no offense to our patron, who seems a genuine PUA.
Me, I’ve got stuff to do…
BTW, I don’t own a car today, nor have I driven in years. The reason I got the hatchback in Ireland, is that the chics I was seeing were in the 19-22 age range, mostly living with parents, and I was sharing an apartment with 2 uber conservative guys. I had gotten fed up of visiting a gf at her parent’s place, late in the evening, having to wait for 1/2 hour after her parents and siblings went to bed, to shag her on the couch or living room floor. Especially after one raunchy night, when she inadvertently got a santorum stain on said couch, and I had to blame her dog for it the next day?!
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“0-10 rapes by white men of black women in 2005 vs 37,460 rapes by black men of white women in 2005.”
Of all people you should know that this is a dynamic between, men, women and the larger society…..this statistic proves nothing…
Black women were raped for 300 years during the atlantic slave trade…
[Editor: Were they raped… or did they willingly and happily acquiese? You know how girls get turned on by powerful men.]
so much so that most black people today are at least partially European…does this prove anything about white people….absolutely not
[Nice try at playing the “I know you are but what am I” game, but it won’t work. There is no evidence of the extreme disparity and randomness in interracial rape during pre-Civil War times that we see today. And african americans don’t have significant euro blood. Only 10% of Af-Ams are over 50% white.]
who is doing all the raping has more to do with power dynamics between groups than some genetic reality…
[Look up MAOA receptors by race and get back to me.]
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TG,
Your theories have a lot of holes in them.
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Italians aren’t White.
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If you want to know where the most beautiful women are, the answer is… EVERYWHERE!!!!! A woman doesn’t need a skeleton physique and a generically pretty face to be your fantasy lover! 🙂
[Editor:
skeleton physique = what a fat woman calls a normal weight woman
generically pretty face = what an ugly woman calls a hot chick.
hth.]
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Here is the American chick from the same source
http://pmsol3.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/whiteamericanfemale.jpg?w=400&h=623
Sweet
I pick her
Europeans and East Asians probably split about 22,000 years ago. The dividing barrier was the Urals. Plus some ice and lakes, courtesy of that age
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Lara says:
February 8, 2011 at 1:30 pm
PA,
Elin Nordegren would be a good example of this.
Too skinny and don’t like her face
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I’d agree with most of the points in the original post, except for the one about facial shape. Long faces almost always end up looking mannish, and often have the off-puttingly jutting chins. Round faces are often, not always, but on average, more feminine and softer and more beautiful.
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By the way, very good point about Irish women being either stunningly beautiful or painfully ugly. It’s like this: the original Celtic Irish women are the ugly mannish ones, and they tend to have the red hair, jutting chins, and sharp features. On the other hand, what the Irish call the ”Old English” (the first English colonists to Ireland) and the Scottish-Irish who came over the pond centuries ago, on the other hand, are the ones who gave the population the rounder faces, fairer hair, and they’re the ones who have produced the gorgeous Irish girls (not at all represented in the averaged image in the page).
The averaged German girl looks quite attractive.
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By the way, while the Uzbek composite is indeed very attractive, there is a bit of a cheat that gives her an advantage. Notice that she has the reddest lip colour, very clearly from at least some application of cosmetics. Some of the other composites appear to be wearing little or no lipstick, by contrast, and a study recently came out which demonstrated (unsurprisingly) that men find red lipstick most alluring. So while she is indeed attractive, she has a slight extraneous advantage due to cosmetics.
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TG says, “Black women were raped for 300 years during the atlantic slave trade…so much so that most black people today are at least partially European…does this prove anything about white people….absolutely not”
Yes it does, though maybe not what you might think.
(Broad generalizations here.) People of west African ancestry tend to be more socially dominant and less socially dependent. People of Anglo ancestry tend to be less socially dominant and more socially dependent.
The rape of Black slaves gets overblown. It did happen, but I’d bet probably less often than Africans raped their own slaves, and the rapes were usually rapes only by the feminist definitions. It was normal for slaves to be used for sex throughout history, but patently less normal in north America. Feminists would call placage or prostitution rape.
Now, they’re calling regretted sex rape. I don’t understand why a guy who disbelieves feminists on the definition of rape would eat their garbage concerning interracial rape. Of course there’s going to be more regret or more rejection revenge if the guy is Black. White women are the Queens of the Universe and the most beautiful and wonderful women in the whole wide world, always tell the truth, and must have their egos protected at all costs.
Heh.
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“0-10 rapes by white men of black women in 2005 vs 37,460 rapes by black men of white women in 2005.”
If I may paraphrase an old joke:
Q. “What’s the difference between a black woman and a bowling ball?
A. “You can rape a bowling ball if you have to.”
TG writes: “Black women were raped for 300 years during the atlantic slave trade …”
Am I the only one that, give what we know about female hypergamy, is skeptical about this. Lets examine the most likely scenario:
the butler: “Excuse me, Tonisha, the master would like to see you in the big house.”
Tonesha: “The big house. I hear its nice in there.”
Jemima: “uhhhh, huhhh. U ain’t kidding sister.”
butler: “and, and don’t wear that dirty outfit you had on today when you were cleaning the cotton.”
Jemima: “You know what he want, don’t ya?”
Tonesha: “Yes I do! I think today is my lucky day. Is it really true that he takes a hot bath with soap every single day?”
Jemima: “Not only that, but he may let you use the bath tub, too.”
Tonesha: “That one time when I was able to get near him, he smell so good. And his wife is beautiful, too.”
Jemima: “Wait til you see his giant bed, and his soft sheets…”
Tonesha: “I thought he might like me. I know he was telling me I wasn’t working hard enough, but then when he cracked a little grin – well, I still wasn’t sure, but the thoughts that were going through my head …”
Anyway, you guys get the idea. Maybe there really was 300 years of rape, but it was probably on the order of 1-10 actual rapes a year, and even then, only under the feminist definition of the slave girl being drunk on fine wine first.
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Hey James most Italians say they are white proudly. Most North europeans are so brainwashed they will cut their eyes out if anyone even mentions race.
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In my opinion the prettiest are Welsh, French and Finnish.
I know Greek and Italian are beautiful too but not the way I personally find the best.
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>>> [Italian women] have tiny titties and fat pear shaped bodies with shelf-asses and thunder thighs to rival any welfare Latina.
>>> [Italian women] do not age well. So if yuo marry of a 15-20 year old giril she will be beautiful, but will look like an old witch by the time she reaches 30
Actually, Italian women are now among the healthiest and fittest in Europe, and they keep it up well into their later years:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=10704119
>>> People from all over the world came to Rome and its far enough in the past for those genetic differences to get mixed nicely into the majority of the population.
You’re no doubt referring to ancient Rome when it was the capital of an empire, but it actually didn’t attract as many foreigners as people think, and the few that did come weren’t very “cosmopolitan”:
http://italianthro.blogspot.com/2010/09/few-foreigners-in-ancient-rome.html
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The Hallstatt Nordic race is the most appealing to me (not pictured).
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I guess Ireland is getting more used to that kind of thing:-
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1284335/GAA-star-camper-van-porn-scandal-Hurler-s-guest-role-video-sex-tour-Ireland.html
i’m getting a distinctly un-female vibe from that thing in the picture.
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Tyrone is right about Italian women, but understates things. Walk around, say, Milan, and you’ll be astounded how many Italian women need nose jobs.
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@itsme
Agreed, looks distinctly like a tranny.
I wouldn’t touch it with a 10′ pole – even if I had a 10′ pole 😉
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Tried accessing the link you posted in your reply to DH several times; it doesn’t work. Is there any other website or source your could direct me to, please? I’d like to see the data you’re referring to.
Also, I’m wondering if you’re familiar with the following work, At The Dark End of The Street:
http://www.amazon.com/At-Dark-End-Street-Resistance/dp/030726906X
The sex crimes in question would have taken place after well after the end of slavery. Comment and reply by you or your readers, invited.
O.
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Replies below:
[Editor: Were they raped… or did they willingly and happily acquiese? You know how girls get turned on by powerful men.]
O: Indeed; the only problem with your premise of course, is that slaves were prohibited from bringing legal charges of any kind, not just against their masters, but against Whites in general, since they had no rights any court was bound to respect. Yes?
[Editor: The existence of a lack of legal recourse to punish white rapists does not necessarily rule out the possibility that many slave girls willingly and happily copulated with their high status masters.]
[Nice try at playing the “I know you are but what am I” game, but it won’t work. There is no evidence of the extreme disparity and randomness in interracial rape during pre-Civil War times that we see today. And african americans don’t have significant euro blood. Only 10% of Af-Ams are over 50% white.]
O: Nevertheless, I think it is fair to say that however the interracial breeding came about, there is indeed enough DNA evidence to suggest that quite a few White Men found the more swarthier hued ladies from West Africa enticing enough to do the deed.
[Very few white Southern men were slave owners. It is likely that most of the sexual congress and/or rape between black slave girls and white men involved the tiny sliver of white men who were masters of plantations. This is different in kind from what we see today, which is a free-for-all rape-fest of white women by large numbers of random black men, and which we don’t see mirrored between white men and black women. This is nearly incontrovertible proof that there is a racist component to the out of control violent crime committed by black men.]
According to Sailer, whom you referenced in your remarks above, the average African American today in early 21st century America has somewhere between 10 and 20% White ancestry – and even what we know historically along these lines, said White ancestry is very likely to be Male.
And we have quite a few historical examples to back this up; aside from Thomas Jefferson, we also have Strom Thurmond, who said one thing in public and did something quite different in private; and we know that the First Lady Michelle Obama has a White ancestor in the form of a Male, as I recall, a great-grandfather. The New York Times had an extensive writeup along these lines on her about two years or so back. It seems that you White boys aren’t at all averse to getting it in with the linbacker Sistas after all, hmm?
O.
[Your non sequitur duly noted. No one claims there aren’t a few good looking black chicks out there, nor that some white men don’t occasionally partake of the dark flesh. But what you don’t see are white men raping black women. Maybe white men are just so goshdarned nonracist, unlike those meany black guys!]
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CR says, in his response to Dragon Horse:
“Thanks to devious blogs like this one, the era of the big lie — the lie that humans are infinitely malleable and human groups are all the same under the skin — is coming to a much-deserved close.”
O: Not quite so fast, good sir. From the Steve Sailer article you referenced in your retort to Dragon Horse, I quote the following:
“Molecular anthropologist Mark D. Shriver heads a group of nine population researchers at Penn State University who are going beyond the arbitrary “one drop of blood” rule to answer these ancient questions about the family trees of the typical American “black” and “white.”
Shriver pointed out that genetically tracking admixture is difficult because differences even between subraces, such as Scandinavian versus West African, account for only about ten percent of human genetic variation. “Thus, we are all more alike than we are different,” he noted.
[Editor: Humans and fruit flies share 97% of their genomes. But no one’s gonna mistake a human for a fruit fly.]
You reputation for hyperbole, purple prose and omission of facts, proceeds you.
[The word you’re looking for is “precedes”.]
You were saying?
[You’re a walking cliche.]
O.
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My vote is for the Russian composite as the hottest.
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‘Most compositely likely to come at you with a meat cleaver: Hungary.”
Lolollolz :))))
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It’s a pity that hot Italian women don’t have kids anymore. Italy is dying. Sad.
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[…] should celebrate white beauty, all around the world: from Sweden to France, from Germany to Italy, from Canada to New […]
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DirkJohanson
Has it: back in the day there were two classes of slave on a big plantation ( Tara )
Field hands
‘House niggers’ …
Hey, I didn’t come up with the labels.
Anyhow, it was the pretty young things that the master wanted around the house…
It was extremely common for a young female slave to be de-flowered by the master as a matter of routine. In which case every single healthy female slave would get this ownership treatment. Not surprisingly the her first child had a tendency to be 50% European in blood.
Being a slave, her children were automatically property of the master and in no way considered ‘white.’ That was a matter of Southern Law.
Beyond that, ‘uppity’ male slaves — if not killed by the whip would be kept away from ‘companionship’ both as punishment and for selective breeding. Slaves were treated like livestock — except worse. ( Horses never were whipped to death, etc. )
In the Caribbean any failure to escape forced labor caused you to loose your left toes — all of them. After healing you were sent back into the field. Direct evidence of this barbarity is still to be found on the cane plantations / agricultural death camps.
( Survival in the cane fields was so poor that ‘fresh ones’ from Africa were constantly needed. In contrast, American slaves normally had lovers and babies.)
After enough time the mulatto children came to dominate the house labor. Thusly, there came to be a schism between the Africans and the mulattos that still exists to this day.
For a young female slave the good life and great food to be had when a lover of the master was an overwhelming goad.
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Arabs also have had a long history of enslaving blacks. In fact the word for a black person in Arabic is slave.
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The South Indian girl looks eerily similar to me. Any other single ethnicity women get that reaction?
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Hey Femmy,
How’s my favorite Gold Digger doing 😉
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The most alluring women are missing. Czech/Slovak, Ukrainian and Brazilian (with predominant European genetics). I guess it would be a bit unfair to others to be in the selection.
A little experiment–when I saw the images–I made a sheet with cutouts for images, covering the labels. From the European types, I identified the French and Russian ones right away.
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TG–
Contra leftist academic ideology, I strongly suspect that the great majority of white slave holder, black female slave couplings were consensual. Women are strongly attracted to status and power, and the status and power differential between white slaveowners and black male slaves was immense. Further the black female might hope her child might be given freedom at maturity, which did sometimes happen, and that she might remain working in the great house, instead of the fields. And so on.
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Why are there no Brazilian women? Too racially confused?
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“feministx
The South Indian girl looks eerily similar to me. Any other single ethnicity women get that reaction?”
hey sweets Why’d you return? Did your peen grow back or something?
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Blert, though there are no statistics, I’d venture for a few reasons, that it was more common for slave women in north America to be forcibly bred than shagged by their actual masters.
Let’s not forget that most people of European ancestry back then could not afford slaves. There were also European, Native American, and mixed slaves. The mixing that went on was more commonly between enslaved and poor Whites and Black slaves than between master and slave.
I mean…logic people.
You’re rich enough to own people. Which ones are you actually going to bone? Field hands who can rip your head off or soft daughters and grandaughters of Irish slaves and prostitutes whose less African appearance made them more suitable for light duty?
I am by no means saying that master/slave sex never happened. I’m saying that overseer/slave, slave/slave, and free mixed or White neighbor/someone-else’s-slave sex was much, much more common, and likely the most responsible for the commonness of European genes in American Blacks.
Central and South America are another story.
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Nicole,
Irish slave girls were forcibly bred with African male slaves in the Caribbean to produced a higher priced slave for the slave markers in the Carolinas – so that’s probably a good source of White female ancestry in African Americans.
Henry Louis Gates Jr himself has an mtDNA signature – inherited from mother to offspring – indicative of Irish origin. His distant direct maternal grandmother was undoubtedly White. His Y-DNA – inherited from father to son – is a type found almost exclusively in Ireland and parts of Scotland.
Gates himself has stated that most White admixture in African Americans appears to be Irish, and possibly from the Caribbean.
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Nicole…
Overseers normally couldn’t even get in the house. ( Remember Gone with the Wind? ) This creates bedding complications.
One of the first rules of pick-up is to isolate the female. That would normally be a tall order for a typical overseer on a typical day. He’d be tasked with hands on supervision of ‘troublesome’ males at almost every turn.
But the worst of it is that his own boss may take a VERY dim view of the hired hand’s sexual congresses. They upset the crews and ferment rebellion — which is exactly the reverse of any overseer’s task. Worse, they are NOT his property.
In contrast a plantation owner was above the law with regard to his ‘property.’ There are no end of accounts and genealogies that show that Thomas Jefferson was hardly alone in his exploits.
As for ‘Irish’ genes…
Loyal Scots-Irish did move to America and set up shop in the South. A single horny male can throw genes around with abandon. By comparison one needs an army of Irish female slaves in the Caribbean to ‘dose’ the next generation.
I’ve never heard of Irish slaves brought to the Caribbean — and if they existed — like hell their owners would have turned down their affections. No way were pale Irish women set loose among the cane fields. They’d never last a month.
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Disagree about Ms. France.
She looks like the plainest AND the oldest.
The prettiest is #1 Ms. Uzbek.
Dragon Horse, did you put her first because she was prettiest?
Also, DH, we need men LIKE YOU in the United States.
You’ve had Japanese noodles and Swiss cheese.
When you are ready to come back home to good ‘ol USA and have some veggie curry, mild not hot, hit me up!
And the country with the hottest male physiques is……?
That’s why we need DH to come home!
Mmmmm…. hmmmm.
😉
PS: have y’all seen this
http://www.roissy.com
???
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The Swedish women are the most beautiful and hottest of this world. They are not overrated. They are the True Beauty of the world; paint their faces, bodies and hair the same color as any other women of the world and they are even hotter. Redo your list. Places where the ugliest women are, therefore avoid them, are Macedonia, Albania, Greece, Poland, Germany, Austria, Lichtenstein (and other small countries in this area) Romania, and England. Countries with the plain and almost ugliest, equally avoidable for women watching, are France and Italy. When you do find a hot one, she may not be interested in a foreigner who will leave anyway. Honestly, Italian women are not very beautiful. Beautiful can be found in any country, but there are not many beautiful women in Italy, just an average selection, they are not on every corner like in Scandinavian countries, Baltic countries, Russia, Netherlands, Brazil, Venezuela, some in China, and most of India. The guy making the lit on this site must check his eyesight. French women are on average better looking than the average Italian woman. Belucci is good, and Italy has a few others, but the best women from this stock are mixed with something else, not full Italian. It’s hard to believe someone would actually write online that Italy has the most beautiful women, when anyone can go to Italy and see they are regular looking chicks. It’s laughable. A good reference in the USA to the Italian look are on the cable shows Jersey Shore and Cake Boss. The star of Jersey Shore with the bun on top of her head is downright ugly, and the sisters of the cake boss Buddy Valastro are unattractive and typical Italian-looking, with the huge overhang, downward pointing noses. The noses alone are damning enough, but the shorter statures and weak, pointy shaped faces are extremely unattractive. No way does Italy have the best of the world. On the other hand, theres that Victorias Secret beauty from Brazil who is mixed Italian, who is the other extreme. She is one of the best beauties of the beauties right now. She and Belucci are proof that Italy has some beauty. Then there are the cute Italians like Rachael Ray, the American Italian cutie. But most of Italian women are not that hot, with faces that are either too thin, pointy, flat with no cheekbones, its the ones with cheekbones, very rare, who are the beautiful Italians. Even Belucci doesnt have enough definition in her cheekbones, she simply has very high cheekbones, which makes beauty, but not the best. The Victorias Secret Brazilian with Italian heritage also photographs with somewhat flat faced, which is probably why she isn’t the best of Victorias Secret history, rather the best is Giselle Bundchen, Tyra Banks, Heidi Klum and others, who have well defined cheekbones. Well defined cheekbones are the number one facial feature that is a rule to feminine beauty, as proven through controlled experiments about sex and attractiveness. Then a well defined jawline, full lips, large eyes in proportion to the face, an even forehead (not big), a shorter face (not long), etc. The classic look of Italian women is flat, smooth faced, not with well defined cheekbones. Its a fact that men are more attracted to women with well defined cheekbones first among other features. Then the mathematics of the face have to make sense, like not just any girl with cheekbones can be beautiful, but it’s the first noticeable sign of beauty if the rest of the face works with the cheeks. That’s why countries like Germany, Britain, Poland, Romania, Albania,etc has some women who have cheekbones, but they are still ugly, because the math of the angles of the checks and rest of the face don’t work in harmony. This site is not at all serious, its just a joke to stir up a lot of blogs about feminine beauty. That’s why the guy chose Italy as the best, because it’s obviously not the best, to stir up a big discussion. I don’t know how many Italian women I’ve seen who are completely unattractive, but don’t recall any Italian woman who was truly beautiful. I don’t remember seeing one woman in Italy who was actually beautiful now that I think about it. Italian women are nothing special. What a lying, freak joke. Next there will be a website that says German or Albanian or Polish women are the most beautiful. Excuse me while I go barf out all of today’s and yesterdays dinner. If you look on beautiful people.com, 5 out of 6 people are denied membership onto the site based on their looks, which makes it nearly impossible to get in. Very tough judging panel they have, and very qualified. The country with the women with the highest acceptance of membership onto this site is Norway with nearly 80% acceptance. Then Sweden and Brazil. The countries with the lowest membership acceptance are Germany and England, with around only 10% membership acceptance. The ugly countries I’ve listed are not far from this percent. It’s a miracle that any models come out of these countries at all, proof that genetics can produce beauty anywhere. But in these countries it’s like trying to find that needle in a haystack, beauty is so rare. Yeps, stick to Scandinavia, Netherlands, Russia, India, Brazil, for the best, and real, beauty in the world.
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Forgot to include the obvious ugliest of the world, aboriginal Australians and Samoans.
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>>> The star of Jersey Shore with the bun on top of her head is downright ugly
She’s Chilean, not Italian. And there are other non-Italians in the cast as well. Besides, they’re all made-up and tanned beyond recognition.
>>> and the sisters of the cake boss Buddy Valastro are unattractive
What do you expect? They’re bakers, not fashion models.
>>> The Victorias Secret Brazilian with Italian heritage also photographs with somewhat flat faced, which is probably why she isn’t the best of Victorias Secret history, rather the best is Giselle Bundchen, Tyra Banks
Are you thinking of Alessandra Ambrosio? She’s Polish-Italian and much better looking than Bundchen or Banks, both of whom are still just average even after extensive plastic surgery to correct big noses etc.
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As anybody read 1,001 Nights? Otherwise known as Arabian Nights?
The Arab and Persian wives of the Sultans sneak out of their harems in the middle of the night to have wild, uninhibited sex with their African slaves.
Details like the slaves swinging from chandeliers and landing smack dap in the Sultanaas’ laps with penis going straight in abound.
Many fictional and non-fictional accounts from that era point to wives “getting their’s” from male slaves as well.
But it had to be kept on the down, down, down, down low.
The Sultan could behead you if he found out!
Arabian Nights is a good read!
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Clearly INDIA won hands down with the best smile, natural looks and beauty look clearly into the images..
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The Asians all look very similar with the “Catfish” looks
The Eastern European pretty much with the baltic countries Looks very similar….
West and Central Africa seems familiar with the same facial feautures unique to african full Thick lips and Flat nostrils..
African American however do look more refined than that of the West and Central Africa,,
The most Uniques in features are mostly those of the following countries,, Greek Indian Mexican Israeli Russian Puerto Rican and Uzbek…
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@Stooge You’re retarded. You took a long-ass paragraph to say what you could’ve said in 2 sentences.
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I NEED A PLANE TICKET TO BURMA STAT!
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@ Science
This isn’t accurate. Even if you do take every word of the HBD/race realist crowd as the gospel—which I do not—it’s still obvious that there is a lot of subjectivity on this blog when it comes to race, and specifically with regards to black people. Witness the gratuitous snipes over many posts at the physical attractiveness of black women as but one example—those are entirely subjective judgments aren’t based on any objective assessment in the slightest.
[Editor: The premise of your counterargument is incorrect. Beauty can be measured objectively. No one is going to mistake Sandra Bernhard for a beautiful woman. By objective measures it is likely true that black women as a whole and on the average are less attractive than white or asian women. We see this reflected in the dating market, where black women and asian men have the hardest time getting dates. But it has also been noted here that there is a racial component to perceptions of attractiveness, and that black men are likely to be more favorably inclined, all else equal, to black women than are men of other races.]
Look—CR likes to rip on black people,
[Truthfully reporting the FBI crime stats is not “ripping”. But I can see how it might sound that way to… uh, inherently biased listeners.]
whether or not it’s “justified”. That’s fine—I knew the deal when I started tuning in and posting here. But what I do take exception to is this notion that he’s The Last Honest Man in a dying civilization, giving us nothing but Pure, Absolut Truth at every turn.
[In the world of the Big Lie, a simple truth-teller carries the import of a thousand kings.]
The reality is a lot more nuanced…and a lot more interesting: that CR is just a guy–a really good writer with some really interesting observations that can be clouded by his own personal history and subjective biases. CR is human.
[More human than human.]
I continue to read this blog because I think his opinions regarding the darkside of the female id are far and away more correct and than his political & HBD prescriptions. I don’t expect that this should change.
[The reason people like you say this is because the truth about female psychology crosses male ideological boundaries, while the truth about the liberal orthodoxy sharpens those same boundaries. But neither tack is any less truthful. The only difference is that one gets your goat while the other doesn’t.]
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The guy definitely didn’t make the average faces.
Why all of the girls are young?
And why do they tend to the attractive side (at least most of them).
Korean plastic surgeon who used the same technique made a more honest work.
He ended up with composite beautiful(!) [not average] faces for Japanese, Chinese, White and Black females.
http://www.lovelovechina.com/girls/perfectly-beautiful-chinese-face/
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That composite image is not even close to representative of what women with those nationalities typically look like. The African American composite, for example, is far more attractive than about 99.9% of the black women I see walking around in my city every day. Were the sources of some of these photos models?
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Editor says, “Maybe white men are just so goshdarned nonracist, unlike those meany black guys!”
Actually, I think it’s that the strength and combat readiness differential between most European men and most African women is much smaller than between African men and European women.
Though White men may have more upper body strength than Black women, actually forcing someone into sex takes more than mere strength. First you have to subdue the victim, and then get them into a position of having sex against their will…and mind you that you have to manage to do this away from witnesses that may intervene, and conceal your identity so that her male relatives don’t kill you since culturally, we’re not as dependant on or afraid of the police or prison.
I don’t think it’s racism that prevents most White men from raping more Black women. It’s just that a rapist of any complexion picks the easiest targets. We’re generally not the easiest targets.
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Dang…I meant to add “or lack of racism”.
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@dragnet
You suffer like I did. I feel for you. Let me give you a less hard intro to HBD reasoning, from a non-“racist” race-realist perspective. It might be more digestible.
About Roissy’s politics, I have less faith. But politics are a matter of fashion. We all like to be different.
Dragnet – on Women and HBD, Roissy is mostly right, in broad strokes. It’s disheartening for women, and disheartening for many non-racists. I see in you someone unwilling to grasp the truth. You also see through some of Roissy’s smug self-assurance, and he has too much of that, to be sure. But that said, …
I studied this subject formally. What biologists and geneticists know about humans – and the public does not – mirrors what Christian scholars know about Early Christian History – and the Christian public does not.
We don’t know about these things because We’re Not Supposed To. Even asking the questions is Frowned Upon.
Christians are always shocked at what “Christian Scholars” debate. Especially fundamentalists. In exactly the same way, Liberals and Marxists are appalled by what biologists study. And by what evolutionary psychologists study.
Because they study humans as if they were animals. It denies liberal “Special Creation” for Humans. This is an assumed belief with more in common with religious fundamentalists than scientists or psychologists.
This is the real value of blogs like Roissy’s. They drive a quest for real answers, not just socially acceptable ones.
For you:
I continue to read this blog because I think his opinions regarding the darkside of the female id are far and away more correct and than his political & HBD prescriptions. I don’t expect that this should change.
[The reason people like you say this is because the truth about female psychology crosses male ideological boundaries, while the truth about the liberal orthodoxy sharpens those same boundaries. But neither tack is any less truthful. The only difference is that one gets your goat while the other doesn’t.]
On balance, though, he’s right. I’ll tell you why. It disturbs the SWPL in me as much as you.
He’s self-assured, and this is laudable, but reality isn’t as cut-and-dry as he paints it to be. We’re meant to know that. We’re not supposed to take anything anyone says as gospel truth.
I come from a totally SWPL background (if you don’t know what that means, you’re not American, so look it up). Race is a huge issue in America. SWPLs are inherently incapable of admitting one hard fact that sums up Roissy well:
HBD: Human BioDiversity
Observation/Rule:
Humans are animals. In every possible sense of the word.
Extension:
We are governed by the precisely same laws as all other animals.
There are sub-points to this.
We’re Animals 1:
We are not “blank slates” at birth. We are not “perfectable”. We are born with hard-wired human natures and they are incredibly difficult to resist. To deny them is to deny ourselves. They’re so deep we’re usually not aware of them. Female hypergamy is an obvious one. Male mate selection (dogging it around) is another.
This is the hardest thing for liberals to get over. They’re the same as religious creationists this way. There’s a philosophical similarity. In both worldviews, humans are “precious” and “special” and “unique creations”. This is demonstrably not true.
Marxism got this core aspect of human psychology dead wrong. This lays the foundation of Marxist thought. And no part of it is correct. The rest of the Marxist layer cake is internally consistent; but its basic premise is wrong.
it is better to design a system to incorporate and deal with human flaws, engineered into our being, rather than deny or suppress them. We can acknowledge, for example, that “we are killers.” But we aren’t going to kill… Today. Forgetting the human potential to gross violence and occasional psychopathy, inherent to some degree in everyone as part of our nature, and not accounting for this in our systems of social control, is a recipe for disaster.
We are animals.
We’re Animals 2: Statistics are everything
These trends and behaviors are not absolutes: They are statistical probabilities. All human behavior is a set of statistical probabilities and response to input and situations. There are outliers and defiers and variances. Some black men can’t shoot hoops. Lots of white guys can boogie. Little Asian guys can be hard-core wrestlers and violent bastards. But exceptions do not disprove a statistical rule; quite the opposite.
Statistics are the hardest concept for humans to grasp intuitively. The either/or faculty is a major flaw in natural human reasoning. Our ability to categorize is brilliant, but the world is not always dividable into discrete categories. Life itself is annoyingly blurry. This causes endless problems, not least of which is our natural inability to interpret odds and chance and stats.
We’re Animals 2:
We are governed by the same rules of genetics and population genetics as all animals.
This means genetics program us from birth. Some dogs are more violent by breed; some dogs are more passive. Some dogs are terrified all the time. Some are almost immune to small amounts of pain, so are great with kids (golden retrievers). Others are bred for food (chihuahas). Given the chance, a removal of selective pressures sees genetic drift back to the norm: A brown-tan, medium-sized generalist “dog” that looks like a mangy mutt. It’s called Regression to the Mean. Without selective pressures, we just regress to a more general state. Chihuahas look like they do because they’ve been bred that way. Some vary more than others. Others are true to type.
Humans are the same. This is the root source of “races” and “subgroups” – there have been different selective pressures, with different founder-effects and different random drift.
Different human groups have evolved in different places. Selective pressures have been slightly different in all cases.
Sub-Groups vary even *within* a racial group (upper class, lower class, special classes that are partly segregated, like “entertainers” in some societies, or Untouchables or Butchers or Blacksmiths or Guildsmen). If there is breeding segregation and different selective pressures, evolution can *very quickly* evolve differences.
Even political views seem to be partly genetic: Conservatives seem more prone to fear-response.
This fundamental truth – that we are the same as squirrels, with color variations in sub-populations – is especially hard for SWPL Equalists to swallow. Religious types also hate this. It’s too Darwinian for them. But this is reality.
We’re Animals 3: We can breed for anything.
If we want super-tall white guys with red hair who act exactly like typical black guys, we can breed it. If we want hyper-smart Australian Aborigines, I have no doubt whatsoever that we could breed it. If we want violent, psychopathic super-killer soldiers who are as tough as nails, we can breed it. We could also breed asexual people who aren’t into sex, or hyper-sexual male/female fornicators who are addicted to the endorphin rush of orgasms. We can breed people who don’t eat much or people who can eat excessively but not gain weight. We could breed disease-resistant people.
Nature breeds disease resistance all the time. It’s an arms-race.
Many societies have bred this kind of thing, based on their nature. It doesn’t take much. All you need is a few generations and a slight advantage for one type of personality or physical form.
There’s reality to these situations:
1: Men who are tough and unforgiving and born to fight and look after themselves: Republican Roman citizen-soldiers. A certain kind of man was selected for. Others were not. This was a genetic tendency. Weenie men need not apply. Roman men during the time of the Republic were, likely, actually different from their much more effete male descendants. Empire literally enfeebled these men. There were still tough bastards, but likely fewer of them – as a percentage of the descendants (regardless of who was later made citizens).
2: Very smart men (and women) who can survive on the margins of society doing highly specialized work: Jews in Europe, denied access to almost all forms of work and thoroughly persecuted. Those who disliked this state were driven out or bred into the general European population over 1200 years. The core that remained were literally survivors. They tended to be smarter, but as in-breeders go, have a slightly different genetic profile (Tay-Sachs disease more common, obviously nerdier but also less physically tough; there are clear adaptations. Note number of Nobel Prizes and outliers in the group. Non-Ashenazi Jews, who also emphasize education and learning, perform not as well as other Jews but to their racial group; North Africans, etc. Genetics are obviously ascendant here.)
This population was socially self-selecting (imposed from outside, as well) and genetically self-selecting. Lots of Jews left, some new folk came in, and the borders were fuzzy. That said, this is an obvious sub-group.
3: Tall men (and women). Case: The Dutch. This not just environment. It’s also genetic.
4: Short people: Pygmies
5: Resistance to some disease: West Africans. Some disease resistance is incredible. They are missing disease resistance to some Northern problems.
Note: Whites found West Africa uncolonizable; they died in vast numbers. The White Man’s Graveyard. It had nothing to do with upbringing, and everything to do with evolutionary adaptation over many generations. Those whites who survived there are those that *could* genetically survive there.
We’re Animals 4:
We can self-domesticate. Creating agricultural civilization radically altered us. Instead of wild hypergamy, social hierarchy and order breeds the rise of the beta male and social capital accumulation. We generate a social and economic surplus. This generates civilization. The process is self-reinforcing. It’s like a runaway Red Queen effect, in function, but it has social and cultural components.
Essentially, just like with dogs or sheep, we bred ourselves.
Violence was less acceptable; it had to be more focused (outward). Law enforcement keeps internal order. Law-breakers don’t get to breed – as much or as reliably. They don’t inherit. They have less property. They’re less successful. We become more pacific and more productive. We become more “sheep-like”.
If it happens that our genes end up in a leader, we are STILL just as capable of being Alpha. We can be an Alpha Bastard. We didn’t breed Human Violence or Human Greed out; we just modified it.
Future-Time Orientation was a major adaptation.
CULTURE
Culture both reinforces these trends, because it affects breeding, and it emerges from them.
Culture produces racial traits. It is also produced by them.
These things reinforce each other. Look at African societies. There’s a consistency in social (dis-)order there. Look at Northeast Asian societies. Koreans and Chinese are culturally very different, but there’s a consistency in family structure and rewarding of beta males (to a degree). Same is true in Vietnam and Thailand and even Hungary or Scandinavia.
BUT GENETICS ARE NOT NECESSARILY DESTINY
Roissy deliberately glosses over this to make his harder social point.
Culture can have a profound effect.
It doesn’t rule alone. But it can rule.
ROISSY GETS IT WRONG: ON THE MARGINS
When he says it’s all race, he gets it wrong. For example, blacks in the US may have a tendency to have single-mother families. But this doesn’t need to be *AS* shitty as it is. In the absence of modifying factors, a culture can “domesticate” a genetic tendency. Our culture
There are very nerdy, educated blacks with no sense of rhythm. My brother-in-law is a hard-core Beta black male of the educated-nerdling type. He’s not a statistical rarity, though he’s not mainstream, either. Remember: Statistical odds, not statistical absolutes.
BIOLOGY DEMANDS IT BE TRUE
Different sub-groups almost *HAVE* to be different. It’s why they’re sub-groups. But we’re not talking about “essentialism”.
“ESSENTIALISM”
There’s no “essence of the Black man” or “essence of Whiteness”. This is also a tendency of humans: to see “essences” in things. It’s a basic faculty. It informs our sensibility about the world. It’s a primitive brain-module that works much of the time in many situations.
It helps tell us what’s contaminated and not, what’s safe and not, what’s “Mammal = Fuzzy = Good” and what’s not (“Spider” = “icky”).
We think in terms of “Spiderness” and “things with bones on the inside”-ness and “eatable”-ness, and “Plant-ish”-ness, etc. Things have “essences”. We extend this to “spirits”. Rocks are “rock-ish”. Trees have “tree-ish”-ness.
Many people bring this type of thought to “Race”. It corrupts an obvious biological truth.
BIOLOGICAL RACE AND EUGENICS
Race is not an “essence”. We are groups of breeding populations governed by population genetics. Individuals are products of genetic resources expressed through embryology and development.
Introducing welfare and social irresponsibility *will* affect our genetic future. There’s no doubt about it. We reward single moms and hypergamy. We are *undoing* ten thousand years of occasional natural/social selection.
Taken over generations, the Slut/Cad trend will “De-Civilize” us. Some see that as a plus. I don’t.
CULTURE
We can use culture to reward some with breeding opportunities and deny them to others.
Welfare for single black moms who slut it up with Alpha irresponsible cads and criminals helps make more criminals.
The same is true for single white trash moms.
Same is true for single Asian moms.
It’s true for anyone.
If we reward smart, productive Black men with more children, we will see the same effect we saw in white populations. Note that not *all* white populations followed this genetic trajectory. There are marked differences between sub-groups.
The same is true in Asia.
It’s likely true that some Chinese ethnicities literally breed skills as merchants. Some are notoriously bad at it – as a group. Some of this is likely genetic. China is notoriously complex this way. And the Chinese have no problem understanding Eugenics.
Only we, with our liberal blinkers, miss the point.
It might take generations to level the playing field, but there’s no question we can do it.
So the crime stats the FBI produces are likely accurate. It’s probable that, in *this* social order, blacks will commit more crimes as a percentage, and that this is not all cultural. But:
1) It’s partly cultural. We can’t change genetics (for people already born), but we can change culture. Glasses can correct for bad eyesight, even if they can’t eliminate it.
2) Black people are here to stay. We need to make it work.
3) We MUST control immigration. That controls our demographic and genetic (and hence social) destiny. Anyone who argues against controlling population inflow is arguing for social and cultural self-annihilation. That’s fine, just admit it and stop lying about it.
4) Social policies should favor responsibility and reward productivity, if we value our civilization. We should reward skill.
Not everything is bad news. It’s obvious that there’s something unique about Black inventiveness in one area: Music. Given that music is sex-tied (it’s a powerful mate-selection tool, as is obvious in any crowd of 12-16 year-old females), there’s no question this can be quickly selected for in a population. Ditto creativity in an artistic-sense.
Black Americans are notoriously fecund musical innovators. This may be genetic. Ashkenazi Jews make great physicists.
Our genetic future isn’t either/or. But we need to acknowledge reality, and then admit that we should HAVE a genetic future. We can self-direct it.
Race is real. But it’s not exactly what we publicly think of it as.
SPECIAL NOTES
Special Rights
Affirmative Action really does shortchange minorities badly. It distorts the “genetic marketplace” and rewards the wrong things. It does the same socially and culturally. It makes blacks permanent victims. It makes whites permanent criminals. It’s psychological poison.
Individual Rights
It doesn’t matter what genetic tendencies we have. We are all subject to the same law.
We can admit that more blacks than whites are criminals – even *much* more, which seems to be the case – while ALSO admitting that
THIS IS IRRELEVANT TO INDIVIDUAL CASES.
If we’re even-handed, maybe more blacks will go to prison. Who cares? The ones who don’t go to prison are no more guilty than non-criminal whites.
Equality before the law makes sense.
Equality of Opportunity / Treatment WILL NOT result in Equality of Results.
Admitting the reality of race need NOT make us racists – per se.
Once we resign ourselves to this, our society will make a lot more sense.
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Iceland has some very beautiful women which is evident the moment you step off the plane in Reykjavik.
South Asian women from the state of Kerala in India are the twins of Ethiopian women.
In New York and DC, Ethiopians often approach Kerala women speaking in Amharic, assuming they will understand and Keralans excitedly approach Ethiopians speaking Malayalam.
Both groups are disappointed to find out neither knows what they’re saying.
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“It’s likely true that some Chinese ethnicities literally breed skills as merchants. Some are notoriously bad at it – as a group. Some of this is likely genetic. China is notoriously complex this way. And the Chinese have no problem understanding Eugenics.”
Yep, same in South Asia (India, Pakistan, Nepal, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh).
Why do you think the caste system survives throughout all of those countries, even the non-Hindu majority ones?
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*Gorbachev crosses the proscenium & mounts the stage, and delivers epic, powerful soliloquy*
*Crowd goes wild, gives Gorbachev a standing ovation & chant encore, encore, with Bics raised.*
Seriously, Gorb, what a profound and direct exposition of foundational and important aspects of The Theory. Kudos for doing so in such a humanitarian way. All the more poignant in that it’s a shout-out, a bro-code honor-guard moment to clarify points to a community member.
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“These things reinforce each other. Look at African societies. There’s a consistency in social (dis-)order there. Look at Northeast Asian societies. Koreans and Chinese are culturally very different, but there’s a consistency in family structure and rewarding of beta males (to a degree). Same is true in Vietnam and Thailand and even Hungary or Scandinavia.”
Africa is a huge continent with several different cultures. I am close with many Africans (from Africa) and have yet to meet ONE that comes from a family of divorce or one who cannot trace back their family tree several generations, hundreds of years.
They have large, tight-knit families.
There is a meme of Africans being “matriarchal” and not knowing which “alpha male” fathered them but I have not met even ONE African from Africa who fits this model, out of the hundreds I have met and the several dozen I have had close contact with.
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A Woman, people see what they want to see and ignore what they don’t want to see. They take a sample from displaced, culturally confused African Americans with identity crises, and upturned, war torn Africans, and decide that this is how Africans are prone to be. Forget the circumstances that drove them to survive any way they can or destabilized their cultures.
It’s okay though. Things have a way of working themselves out in the long run.
Men’s rights has gained speed on this side of the world before feminists could get ground in enough not to be perceived as radical Lesbians. Even some of the traditionally matrilineally ranked African animist “cults” are initiating and promoting more men to priesthood because, as one told me, “It is needed at this time.”
Though some titles are passed matrilineally to ensure the genetic line or talent is sustained *in spite of female hypergamy, wars, and other things that can go wrong*, African cultures are patently patriarchal. To say otherwise is feminist b.s. press meant to try to make western men feel guilty and open their pockets for charities with gender biased distibution.
In this, as in the rape thing, I don’t understand why the crap that spews from feminists’ mouths is somehow wrong when it’s about White men, but right when it’s about Black men.
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Gorbachev,
That’s quite an opus!
I’s say it very well sums up the situation – though I might quibble on some minor points!
You should ask some bloggers to guest post this elsewhere – this needs to make the rounds!!!
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All asians have the same looks look into the images Vietnam Chinese korean Japanese Filipinos Mangolian Thai Cambodian all have similar freatures … the most obvious feature are Asian eyes…. anyone can distinguish an Asian almost immediately might have some difficulities though with country of origin….Asian do resemble each other , compare to any other race in the world…
while some African might be in this categeorically.the fraction is small example Ethopican are by far the most attractive african race this is due to the begin of times and the arab blood mixture from Abysina,,,,
Spanish and Indian are almost identical except for the image given here most indian /Pak women are fair in complexion the same skin tones as that of Hispanic women such as mexican and South american..
Sri Lankan on the other hand are an obvious choice where they can be immediately be distinguished with darker feature… maybe people do mix up Indian/Pak as sri lankan…this is wrong..Indian/Pak women have way more attractive feature and beauty….
Eastern Europen are very pale in general with lighter shades of natural blonde hair… their feature can be seen if you visit The eastern bloc.
genareally American women are too hype and self consciuos about their beauty as such they spent millions on cosmetic surgery to enhance a youthfulness looks.
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A Woman totally disagre with your comparison with Ethopian and Indian as an Identical mix…
maybe you should do more researched and figure out the total differences..
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A Woman totally disagre with your comparison with Ethopian and Indian as an Identical mix…
maybe you should do more researched and figure out the total differences..
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Judging from the images presented…
(1) Very attractive,,,,,,,,Uzbek, purto Rican, Indian, Israeli,Mexican, Russian
(2) Attractive,,,,,,,,,,Ethiopean, Greek,Italian, Peruvian.
(3)Least Attractive….Asian and Blacks..
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@ Dextrology, you are the idiot the retard took a shit on. There are quite a few long blogs here, Dextrologist anal worm. You are the one who read my entire blog, so it must have given you some sort of rise. Too bad you can’t handle it, you are weak. If you don’t like something write a blog about your own sexy woman opinion, duh.
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(Stooge) >>> The star of Jersey Shore with the bun on top of her head is downright ugly
(Italianthro) She’s Chilean, not Italian. And there are other non-Italians in the cast as well. Besides, they’re all made-up and tanned beyond recognition.
Stooge: Yes,Snooki is Chilean, born of Spanish parents, adopted and raised by American Italian parents. She also has some Italian in her earlier genetic heritage, not just Chilean/Spanish. And yes she can easily pass for an Italian American, maybe to the disappointment of Italian American communities (?!). She was raised in that culture. Another cast member is Irish, JWoww, who can also pass for Italian even though she is not. At least she makes Italians look good physically. The cast on this show depict Italian Americans, whether they are Italian or not, and they all can pass for Italians for looks. Its fake, but its American TV. Did you expect different?! Haha.
(Stooge) >>> and the sisters of the cake boss Buddy Valastro are unattractive
(Italianthro) What do you expect? They’re bakers, not fashion models.
Stooge: The point of this site is that Italians are “the most beautiful,” and …”All Italian women are bangable, even the feminists.” That includes models as well as bakers. Its talking about any and all Italian women. Haha, hello, Italianthro, did you at least read this site article? It appears not, or maybe you simply neglect to think before you type. The Valastros and most Italian women on the streets in Italy and Americas prove that the claim of this site that they are the most beautiful is dead wrong, so so far from right. They can be pretty, but usually must be mixed with something else to be the best. I cant think of a better example of the typical Italian women than the Valastro sisters, they look like most Italian women look. While lively and spirited, they cannot be considered the most beautiful in the world for the average Italian. And they are indeed the average Italian woman. If you look on the streets in Denmark, Sweden, Moscow, Prague, Rio, most cities of India, etc…you will see that their average women are the most beautiful per capita. Not Italy, haha.
The Valastros are rather homely, as are most Italian women. Like I wrote, there are the beautiful Italians, as beauty can be found everywhere, but it isn’t the best. With one exception: Sophia Loren. She had cheekbones, she is the still the best. But she is only one. Belucci cannot touch a hair on her head, she merely comes close to the other top beauty of the world. A lot of the best beauty is a blend of cultures. The women of Scandinavia, India, Russia and Brazil are good examples of this beauty by diversity, they are some of the most diverse in the world. Which brings me to my Brazilian comment…
(Stooge) >>> The Victorias Secret Brazilian with Italian heritage also photographs with somewhat flat faced, which is probably why she isn’t the best of Victorias Secret history, rather the best is Giselle Bundchen, Tyra Banks
(Italianthro) Are you thinking of Alessandra Ambrosio? She’s Polish-Italian and much better looking than Bundchen or Banks, both of whom are still just average even after extensive plastic surgery to correct big noses etc.
Stooge: Ambrosia is not better looking than Giselle by mine, as well as popular and professional choice. You are among the minority, just look it up online. Giselle has the cheekbones and the facial mathematics while Ambrosia is slightly behind; Giselle may be part German, which is her disadvantage, but she still rates higher than Ambrosia. Giselle is also considered the top supermodel of now and past few years, and makes more money. She doesn’t have to be listed, she just is. I repeat, by my opinion and common opinion, the Italian Brazilian Victorias Secret model Ambrosia is great but not the number one beauty of VS. Number one right now for VS, and I agree, is the beautiful Adriana Lima, even if she lacks the deep cheekbones. Probably why she isn’t the best VS of all time. Then Giselle, then Ambrosia. Others are listed as more beautiful and sexy than Ambrosia by popular and professional opinion, but I think Ambrosia is next in line for VS currently. Like I said, Ambrosia photographs too flat-faced, which is probably what puts her behind on official lists. She is a 10 however. She has more nationalities than just Italian and Polish, as most Brazilians do, which is what makes them so beautiful, because they are so mixed. Thats why their beauty is way way ahead that of Italian beauty. Some may have Italian, or other nationalities that are considered plain, average or ugly, such as German or Polish, but the mix itself is what makes them better than what they came from. Often, the most beautiful can come from a mix of the most homely or average, like Italian and Polish for example. Or Irish and Korean, or British and Afrikan, with other nationalities mixed in there too of course. Its the wonder and rule of genetics. Sometimes it goes the other way. Back to VC, as well as Sports Illustrated, they have gone downhill from where they were in the last 10 or 20 years with models. Cant they find beauty nowadays to equal what they had?; there is no more real top beauty in the world for swimsuit or lingerie?!!!! The best that ever was for swim/lingerie is Poriscova, Banks, Vendela, Kurkova, Brinkley, etc. And the best of all time, I think most will agree: Kathy Ireland!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No Belucci can top Ireland, ever. The new blonde girl they have on the cover of SI is a joke, SI is sliding downhill in a huge way.
About the plastic surgery, Ambrosia also had plastic surgery!!!! Some models and celebrities do. Hello Italianthro, wake up and do some research, your favorite model had plactic surgery, so you can stop hating on the other who had it too, fool! About Ambrosia being part Polish, that makes sense, thats where the pointy jaw and flat face probably came from, her drawbacks. Though Italians often do have flat features as well. Very unfortunate for them; Not the most attractive quality. Giselle is also a bit pointy, but shes also part German, her drawback, and not perfect, but at least her features work together in a way that puts her out on top. There was another famous Pole, famous in Poland that is, as no Polish celebrity or model has ever achieved world class fame or supermodel status, even the top models of today, whose names are largely unknown are not world famous like Lima or Giselle. I can name most models from Brazilian, Russian, etc, but none from Poland for this reason. Or Italy. Because they are not the most attractive and not the sexiest or most beautiful, like many Brazilians and others are. If Poles reach the top, it will be because of their performance, height, and ability to model the merchandise. Not their beauty (what beauty, haha!?, where their beauty is the rest of the worlds ok) Even the Polish models on models.com are not attractive, with the flat pancake jaws, the jowled look, the overhang noses, the strange blank look. At least Abrosia’s face looks alive!! There is one singer famous in Poland who had plastic surgery more than 20 times just to look somewhat attractive and presentable!!! There is a huge lack of beauty in Poland. Other Polish singers look inexcusably ugly, or strange, but Polish people say they are so beautiful. A bunch of blind sickos in denial it looks like. So Ambrosia is beautiful because she is multinational, not because of any one of her nationalities. There is also a lack of top models from Italy, go figure. Italians are not the most beautiful, do the research, case and point.
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I honestly thinks everyone of the composite Are fairly attractive,
however I just find that the women That are tanned do
stand out amongst them all they include.
Purto Rico Mexico India Peru
However Israel Russia and Greece came close
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No, Stooge (appropriate name), Chileans are mostly Mestizos, and Snooki obviously has Native American ancestry. She’s not Italian, so using her as an example of what Italian women look like shows what a moron you are.
Gisele Bundchen has 100% German ancestry, so you finding her attractive goes against your “Germans are ugly” and “mixed women are pretty” theory. Of course, she’s not attractive, even after all the surgery. You must be blind.
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No, Italianthro (appropriate name for your nationality in denial for this subject); it is not me showing the world what Italian women look like using Snooki as an example, it’s a TV show doing this, and they do an effective job of it. Obviously you are not the sharpest knife on the block (did you even finish public school?! Looks like no rather than yes). From what I have seen in Italy (one European country out of several in which I have lived), the US and other nations, Snooki can indeed pass for Italian. Many Italian women have exactly this shape of face: pointy, eyes, nose, cheekbones, coloring, height, figure,etc, and on average, Italian women fit this physical profile. They are more often thin, but overwhelmingly short, as most Italians are. Snooki does have Italian ancestry, however privileged info that may be, though not in her immediate parentage. Snooki was undeniably raised in an Italian culture and has that type of culture and mentality, so it’s easy to understand why she was chosen to play the part she does. You are obviously embarrassed by Snooki representing Italian culture. Not my problem, go to counseling to deal with your problem.
About Giselle, she does look good statistically. She has cheekbones and the mathematical beauty in her face, thats undeniable. You are the blind one, most people on Earth would agree. There are many types of beauty, but beauty is, in fact, universal. Do some research, get some type of education before you type yourself into an ignorant oblivion, as you have laughably done so far, haha. Giselle is definitely of German descent, but as I have said, and you have overlooked yet again, beauty can come from any country. Statistically rating beauty on the streets of Germany (or lack thereof), beauty does not often come from Germany. But here she is. Along with a few other famous German beauties, with the likes of Heidi Klum and Claudia Schiffer. You have to actually be in countries a long time to understand the drive behind their actions, like their drive to be famous or rich. Once you understand this, you can understand why these women achieved the fame they did, coming from largely ugly genetics, while there are women out there who are much more beautiful. It appears as though you don’t understand what you read, or you don’t read much. Or you likely blow up with anger (typical Italian, haha) quickly and without thought as to how it makes you look. Try to understand what you read in the future, as the writer intends it. If you are offended that someone says Italian women are more often plain or ugly than pretty, too bad, hat’s just reality. People will travel and they will see the truth for themselves, and I hope they do.
It is also a biological fact that genetics that mix are stronger and more capable than largely unmixed genetics. And more beautiful and interesting as well, with few exception. Supermodels are often exceptions, and are considered freaks of nature in the best way possible for this reason, which is not a bad thing at all. There is a huge correlation between mixed genetics time and again that supports this fact. So, on all of your points that have problems with mine, you are the moron. Go get educated, or just stay away from the Internet altogether if you can’t support yourself intelligently. Stop wasting peoples time. Just don’t spray anymore of your ignorant Italian bull$hit, Moron, haha. It’s amazing you have the nerve to mention surgery at all after your favorite model had plastic surgery, what a hypercrit! You must definitely be Italian with that type of arrogant, dishonest, quick to anger mentality. You have only served against yourself by bringing out the negative points of your culture. Next, you or this site manager will be saying Italy is the cleanest country, or has the least corrupt postal system. Unbelievable. While Italian men are the ones famous for their beauty, not the women, you are probably one of those people who looks in the mirror and actually believes what your mother says about you, even after the general public shows you something completely different and realistic. Like the guy who says all women want him, but he is the ugliest, dumbest freak on the street. Ugly, stupid, and a$$hole is not a good combination. But you will keep telling yourself it is, haha.
If you want more, I can give it. I don’t have much time but I type fast. And I have years of education on my wall and experience to back me up. Go ahead Italian freak, what’s your next unsupported, completely stupid revelation! Hahahaha
The splicing composites of pictures that this thread is based on is not accurate at all. Someone is completely biased and not using any type of accurate experimental methods, which is what makes the most accurate findings possible. The composites are completely flawed, and this site thread is completely flawed. Anyone can put any kind of dishonest crap online and call it the truth. But the real truth is in real results over a long period of time. Traveling and doing research, as well as using real scientific method can reveal the universal truth. There is not much truth in the opening argument of this site, it’s just a hyped up version of someone’s biased opinion.
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That last one is from me to Italianfreak
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O, and someone wrote that feminism has made Swedish faces more masculine. Dude, a woman’s culture or beliefs do not affect her biological traits, the look she was born with. A woman has all the bone structure and beauty she’s ever going to have from what genetics her parents gave to her. What a dumb a$$ ignorant, uneducated thing to say. Whether or not they’Re feminist, and more power to them if that’s what they want, they are still beautiful if they were, for example, capitalist, or communist, or hippies. Beauty is beauty. I have to look up who said that. Damn people, what an ignorant bunch of uneducated; teach you to write and give you a computer and you think you know everything. Unbelievable.
Also, about feminism. The definition of feminism is that women deserve equal human civil rights and opportunities as men. It doesn’t mean they can lift as much weight as men or run as fast (sometimes they can!). It just means they want to be equally considered as men are. That’s completely reasonable and fair. Most feminists I know are 110% into men only, have children, and expect, and deserve, equal civil rights as men. A few years ago, the average woman doing the same type and load of work as a man, got 75 cents to every American dollar a man of the same station made. This is not fair among a fair and civil community. The fact that most women raise and give more care to children and a rather huge discrepancy in wage earnings is why women and children are the highest population of people in poverty. This is really not fair. The wage Discrepancy, lack of fairness to mothers, and lack of opportunities to women are what puts them directly into the line of poverty. Unless they have rich parents to bail them out, not always the case. Dude, this unfairness to women greatly and directly harms children. A lot of guys don’t care unless they are right there to see if a woman or child is in need, and sometimes if they see, they still don’t care. Guys are selfish idiots when it comes to money and thinking fairly, it’s actually been studied and proven, that men are not fair whereas women are much moreso; even in their dreams, women dream equally of women, men and children. In male dreams, men think primarily of other men, not in a homo sense, but in a sense of competition and increasing their male effectiveness. Way not fair to women. Also, men are 11 times more likely to blame a woman or someone else form their win faults or problems. These are from medical journals folks, not things anyone on this site has likely heard of. If there is another educated person here, please do write about it and let me know that you have read the same things and know what I’m talking about. Otherwise all I can do is spread the real, honest, educated truth, backed by real testing, observation and research. Feminism is not just for lesbians, hello! Feminism is for anyone who believes women, and indirectly children, deserve a fair shot at success for the same work and effort. More women than men have attended college for quite a few years now, which has already begun to show a huge turn of tide for women in the workplace. Good job ladies, keep everyone competitive and on theirntoes. To you idiots who don’t know any facts, correlations, or applicable education: don’t. Just don’t. You have already made yourselves look bad enough with your ignorant, selfish, blind, stupid remarks. Go read something that will help your minds and opinions about stuff like feminism, not more car or muscle magazines (unless you are puny and already informed and educated).
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This list of composite pictures is a lying load of crap. I have never seen such a manufactured, bull$hit piece of work. Those women are nothing compared to what it really would be if someone took a bunch of random pictures of women from each country and blended them into each other. I agree, this site is a load of shit and crap heads. This entire site needs a huge enema, or flush
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Abe..sorry but i totally disagree with your opinion..the sketches do reflect the average women of those respective countries
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That is, I totally disagree with your opinion if you were born on some other planet other than Earth, and you have no idea what human women look like, much less the difference between ethnic groups. Which the manager of this site, and Italianthro, are obviously from another planet and have no idea what they are saying or writing. Or they are just wasting peoples time by amusing themselves with their own fantasies, instead of reality. Or they are just lying, jealous freaks who cannot own up to the truth. Italian women are on average extremely plain; I have lived there and many ore countries and I can say this with something legitimate to back it up. There are other pictures in that bogus list of photo composites that are not the realistic average as well. Like I said before, to get real results in this typenof comparison, one must use experimental method and random pictures to get the true average. The average woman in many of these photos is not the average anyone would get if they randomly selected women and took pictures. For example, it astounded me the number of Italian women with overly large, nay HUGE, overhang noses, long faces, rather flat cheekbones, and noticeably pointy chins The Italian woman in this bogus sites composite list is the opposite of what I saw throughout Italy, month after month. In fact, it was extremely rare to see an Italian woman who did not have the features in just described, it’s such a atrong Italian look. It’s the Italians who escapenthis norm who achieve fame for their beauty, not the average female there for sure. From north to south Italians vary in height and color, but they maintain overall those large noses, long faces, flat cheeks. A very narrow look. This is the total opposite of the italian female photo composite on this bogus site.The italian men pull off this look much better, as these are more acceptable masculine features. Even Sophia Loren, a complete exception and miracle for Italy, had a large nose. But she actually has cheekbones that carry her through that flaw, and makes it work. If a country like Italy has an average nose that is noticeably huge and it detracts from feminine beauty, which it honestly does, folks, it is part of that populations characteristics and cannot be discounted, as this site has discounted. That is part of the flaw and lie of these composites, they take out the real average of randomly selected females. After having travelled so much as i have for education, work and pleasure, it’s obvious that this sites list of composites are engineered by someone who wanted the average composites to turn out the way it is presented on this bogus site. I can imagine an Italian freak creating the composites, choosing photos that will go into the mix, throwing out the ones they dont want. That’s why it’s bogus, flawed, a lie. I disagree with lies. This is the real stooge. Sorry, Italianthro site manager, or whoever wrote the previous, tiny comment that disagreed with abe; you are obviously in denial, jealous, mentally ill, etc. Your women are on average ugly. That’s the truth; I could travel months in Italy and not see a beautiful Italian girl. But you have it better than some countries: I could travel a year in Germany and not see even one, so keep the small blessings you do have.
It was not me, stooge, who wrote the previous comment that I “disagree with Abes opinion” that the composite photos and this site are bogus; it was probably Italianthro or the manager of this site being their lying selves and pretending to be me, the real stooge. I do not write a mere few sentences, i write a lot, hello. So if anyone legitimate sees this type of lie, please do disregard it. My truth is, I have lived and spent a LOT of time in many of the countries listed in this sites dishonest photo composites, and I totally disagree with this sites fabricated claims as to the average Italian woman, etc. I agree with Abe, he is correct for the most part. I tell people about what this site claims so don’t be surprised if it gets attention. Even a friend who has some Italian heritage told me this site is a pack of lies. Italy has so many good things, why make it ugly with lies?!
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The Welsh woman is supreme.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Nobody has said this yet. Sure 0.7 is sexy but if you are in love two heads and cloven hooves would look attractive.
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The composite sketches absolutely do not reflect the average women of those respective countries. Abe is correct, the poser is wrong, this thread is wrong. Not only do I disagree with this crazy thread, I say go travel for a year and see for yourself. Take a bunch of random shots and make your own composite list without bias. It will probably be more honest than the absurd composites on this thread. Too bad I’ve already done my traveling for a while at least, or I would do the same.
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beaautiful women are found in every country and every nationalites… with the exception of black women..
not being racist but a pure bred black women …..
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@Stooge
LOL at “the sharpest knife on the block”. What an illiterate retard you are. And no, Snooki does not have features that are “on average” Italian. Her features are clearly Native American. And no, Italians are not “overwhelmingly short”. They’re average height. And no, they don’t all have “huge overhang noses”. Convex nasal profiles run ~15% in Italy. Bottom line: Snooki’s Hispanic, and you’re an idiot.
P.S. Gisele Bundchen looks like a transsexual. You must be gay too.
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Non-physical aspects (mentality, fashion-sense, behavior) shouldn’t be overlooked because they can add to and compliment a woman’s natural beauty. In my opinion, Scandinavian women, in particular the Swedes, are the best in the world.
http://flaggingheadquarters.com/2011/01/11/scandinavian-women-are-number-one/
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I know it’s not fashionable to notice racial or ethnic differences, but nonetheless I have noticed them, at least in regards to feminine beauty, and I would say that almost all the women I find really beautiful belong to four ethnic groups: Indians (from India), Arabs, Hispanics and Polynesians.
There’s nothing quite as beautiful as a good- looking Indian woman, especially in traditional Indian clothes, beautiful saris, jewelry including nose rings and forehead pendants. Western clothes are all right too, as long as they’re lovely gowns, and not cut-off jeans and tank tops. In particular I like Priyanka Chopra, Aishwarya Rai, Malaika Arora and Juhi Chawla. Here’s a magnificent picture of Juhi: http://www.starswelove.com/scriptsphp/showimg.php?imageid=7841. Here’s one of Aishwarya: http://www.bollywood4u.com/wallpapers/show.php?id=aish54. Of course, women you see on the street aren’t all movie stars or models, but Indian women in general are pretty outstanding. The only trouble with Indian women is that they tend to be excessively reserved. One would hardly dare greet an unknown Indian woman in a public place, but if you get to know them they can be friendly enough I suppose. I love their chocolate complexion and long black hair. In gazing at Indian beauties, I noticed that the Indian film industry, called Bollywood, Bombay’s Hollywood, produces about twice as many movies a year as Hollywood. Too bad more Indian movies don’t make it to the west. I might even consider going to movies again.
I was brought up to think that women like Marilyn Monroe and Elizabeth Taylor were the most beautiful women in the world, but I’ve been rethinking my philosophy somewhat. Anyway, American women sometimes are forward and immodest, hungry for attention and spoiled. I’ve known a few good-looking American women that take drugs, drink, smoke, swear and behave promiscuously, traits that don’t exactly please me. You’d hardly find an Indian woman doing those things. I stopped going to movies around 1980, so I’m not familiar with the latest wave of actresses, though I’ve seen posters of Brooke Shields and Britney Spears.
Arab women can be very beautiful too, and I prefer them in Islamic clothes. but without facial veils of course. Some of the jalabiyyat can be just as beautiful as saris, and they don’t hide the beauty of a lady so much as enhance it, if you ask me. Arab women usually don’t engage in any of the abovesaid vices either, but some westernized Arab women may smoke and wear jeans and sweaters. The best thing about Arab women is that they are approachable. I wouldn’t hesitate to introduce myself to an Arab woman in Islamic clothes anywhere, but great delicacy and politeness are always required. If you tell an Arab woman she’s beautiful, she’ll blush very becomingly, as if no one had ever told her so before.
I’m in South America right now, and there are plenty of pretty girls around, but Argentine women for the most part don’t answer to what I call Hispanic. Often they look almost European or American. By the word Hispanic, I perhaps mean Mexican or Mexican-American. I am thinking of the countless good-looking Hispanic women of Los Angeles. Basically, I prefer Mexican-born women to American-born women of Mexican descent. They’re far more likely to be affable and modest. Some American-born Hispanic girls show a tendency to fall in with gangs.
Hawaiian women can be stunningly beautiful too. I’ve known a few and seen even more. Unfortunately, because of the history of Hawaii, the dialogue between Hawaiians and Caucasians is sometimes a little strained, with some Polynesians being just a little aloof. Not only that, but on the world scene, Polynesians constitute a tiny ethnic group, so one does not meet Polynesians every day of the week, except in Polynesia–Hawaii, Tonga, Samoa, Tahiti.
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@Stooge
LOL at “the sharpest knife on the block”. What an illiterate retard you are. And no, Snooki does not have features that are “on average” Italian. Her features are clearly Native American. And no, Italians are not “overwhelmingly short”. They’re average height. And no, they don’t all have “huge overhang noses”. Convex nasal profiles run ~15% in Italy. Bottom line: Snooki’s Hispanic, and you’re an idiot.
P.S. Gisele Bundchen looks like a transsexual. You must be gay too.
Italianthro, you must be the most enormous “illiterate retard” on the planet to be calling someone like me this. You are the illiterate one. hahaha! Ovbiously you cannot read further than this site because on most sites it is listed that Sweden is number one among other beautiful countries that house the most beautiful in the world. Italy is not included in most of most beautiful in the world lists, unless the site is exactly about Italians, such as this one, haha. So, there you go, you are the “illiterate retard.” I’m surprised you could spell illiterate correctly with your simpleton mentality. I have more travelling and education than you, this is obvious by yourgrossly incorrect statements. Giselle does not look like a Queen. Most German women do look like men, but she isn’t one of them. You really are blind. She is not my favorite anyhow, as I’ve said, Lima is better, but Giselle is listed as number one, I can see why, and yes indeed she is beautiful. Most people in the world, professional and otherwise, obviously agree. Italian people, men and women are not average height at all. What a huge lie! You are trying to do what this site is doing, plant lies in the hopes that people will believe it and not travel to see for themselves. Sorry to burst your tiny little bubbleheads, but people will see the truth for themselves. You are wasting your time, while mine is well spent showing the truth I myself have seen. And this is a good way to cool off after a workout and a tough day bashing highclass simpleton business freaks. Probably too much for your little bubblehead to understand, D. About the Italian shorties: I lived in Italy, you Italian lying freak. The farther south you go, the shorter they are. They are well known for being on average… shorties! Wow, what a lying freak “retard” you are, hahahaha! You are short, arent you, you freak, haha! Thats why you are so defensive and screaming insults. Well, sorry for you, SHORTIE, haha! Your new name is D for Denial. I named Giselle only because she is the most popular in the fashion and beauty industry right now, and obviously most others who are around beauty 24-7 think she is beautiful and can move their lines, or she would not be in this top money spot. Designers dont want Queens to represent their lines for straight women, or they would go out of business. Wait.. are you a Queen, Italianfreak? Are you insulting Giselle because you have a di@k and wish you didn’t, and want to look like her?! Sorry D, you blew your own, ahem, little secret. There are ugly models who are in the top 50 right now, like most of the Polish models, and one from Austria. But Giselle is not ugly like these, you are blind. There are not, and never have been, many top models from Italy, or beautiful Italian models at that. Lack of beauty and people lying that its the best, haha, is the subject here, so get back to it. . . another indicator of your little bubblebrain that cannot focus and bring it back to the issue at hand. I saw only a few pretty ones when I lived in Italy, and absolutely NOT ONE of them looked nearly as good as the Italian picture in this sites list of average composites. I saw thousands when I was there, most were very plain, ugly on average, a few pretty ones, absolutely NO gorgeous ones. Had to go up north or east for beauty. Look all this up, D. Ya, Italian, you are pathetic to disagree with such obvious facts, which are all over–on the internet, in the library and on the streets of Italy and around the world, if you cared or had the ability to actually read it. How many countries have you actually been to in your life…3?! Hahaha. And the Snooki does look Italian, I saw many a short Italian girls who had her features directly in Italy as well as around the world in Italians who made other countries their homes. In fact, many south american people can pass for Italian, and many have Italian heritage, its common there. I’ve been there too. If I didn’t see it for myself, I would not say it. But D is not this type; he says what he wishes were true. D for Denial and I for ignorant. Italianfreak, travel more, read more, research and back up your distorted, dishonest opinion. You will find from doing this that your opinion will be difficult to support with real life facts. I cant believe I gave you good advice. To the freak who calls someone else what he himself is. Thats psychology! Did you consult a counselor yet? I advise you to do that as well, little bubblebrain Italianistic shortie Queen. Hahaha!
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O, and Italianfreak in Denial: Italians often do have those large, cliffhanger noses. Another fact of history, when Romans spread around Europe, they also spread those disgusting noses more than other nations. You can see them everywhere the Romans ruled, in the German countries (but absolutely NOT in Scandinavia!), some of the eastern countries, France, England and Spain, etc. Where the Romans went, so this nose planted its ugly seed. Sophia Loren has this nose, but she has a large cheekbone structure that draws away from it, so she pulls it off well. Other Italians and people of Italian heritage with this unfortunate Italian genetic defect most often do not pull it off, as they usually lack the protruding, well defined cheekbones that is a typicaly marker of beauty; Italians usually have smooth, longish faces, such as Monica Belucci. She looks good because of high cheekbones but would look hell of a lot better if her face was shorter. Its the Italian women who have shorter faces who look more attractive, as this is a rule of universal beauty (shorter faces on women look more feminine), but the Italian look on average has a longish face. Look it up, and make sure its been supported time and again. I did. This high bridge, large overhang beak nose is a legacy of old old Italy. Look it up, “illiterate” brain, haha! D, I see you time and again spewing your ignorant opinion, but I don’t see you back up what you write with any education, research or credible experience. D is also for Dunce, you unbelieveable Dunce
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Another typical, average looking Italian woman who has that long, smooth, flat face, void of well defined cheekbones, with that big overhang, typical Italian nose: Lady Gaga! She is famously Italian, and looks extremely Italian as well, and that goes without argument! She has great style and talent, also typical Italian, but dude is she UUUUUUGLY! This site claims that all Italian women are bangable. Well, Lady Gaga is proof that this thread is a huge LIE, hands down; Italian women are in fact NOT the most beautiful women in the world. They are on average some of the most plain, and ugly in the world. Remember, we are talking just beauty alone; if Gaga were an ordinary woman working at a bank or school teacher, or even an investment banker, and not wildly famous and rich, she would not be considered bangable; guys would not look at her and think, wow, shes so hot. Not at all, just looking at her is proof enough. The greatest body cannot make up for a face that ugly! Her face is so average Italian, with dimensions and mathematics that are downright ugly, with such unattractive angles. It’s like looking at a guy. italianfreak, if you want to talk drag queen, leave Giselle alone and focus on Gaga–she looks more a queen than Giselle ever could. Take away Gaga’s fame and fortune and put her on the social economic level of most Italian women, and she is simply a regular, ugly unbang-worthy woman. I sure wouldnt touch her, but i could sure go for Adrianna Lima, Giselle, etc. Lady Gaga is yet more proof that Italian women are on average homely, indeed some of the ugliest, plainest, most average looking females on planet Earth.
Another famous, rich Italian singer is Madonna. She can be considered more attractive than Gaga, but still no beauty queen, with those angles and mathematics that are not in line with true beauty. If she were not famous, no one would say she is the most beautiful. Like Gaga, Madonna’s fame and money makes her appear more attractive, but in reality, take away the fame and money, and the woman is not really that hot. In fact, her money is what has bought the beauty she does have, because she would not look nearly as good in a natural way without money as she does now with it.
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would love to know this. I have met many, many Indian women throughout my life, and nearly all of them are nothing short of stunning. Beauty might be in the eye of the beholder, but I just cannot imagine anyone who look at a beauty like Aishwarya Rai and not be slightly stunned by her ridiculous beauty. Sorry, it is ridiculous. It’s also unfair. It’s also probably the reason why India is so overpopulated. If I were married to an Indian woman (and I guess that would make me an Indian man), I would not want to keep my hands off her! Is that indecent to say? Well, it’s true. The UN better go do somethin’ about all them pretty ladies over yonder. And I don’t say that because I envy them deeply and pathetically. Oh no.
The catalyst that brought this green monster out of my mind, was the gym. I was ‘up in the gym, just workin on my fitness’ (oh, Fergie), when I look at the TV screen right in front of me, and I saw this. It was an Indian movie channel, I’m guessing, and I’m guessing it must have been a sort of Bollywood version of TMZ. I know that by definition the stereotype of a celebrity is that they have to be beautiful to some extent, but what I saw was just insane. I eventually lost track of all the different faces, they all melded into one caricature with a speech bubble hanging over her pulchritudinous head, saying, “You will never look like this!”. And it’s true. I’m not Indian. I wish I were half Indian right now, maybe I’d just get the eyes. Oh, the eyes. You see, I’m something of an eye fetishist. Optosexual? Whatever. If you have nice eyes, you’re gorgeous to me. It doesn’t matter to me how screwed up your nose is, how ugly your lips are, how far out your ears stick out, and if your hair is falling out in clumps. For me, beautiful eyes = beautiful face. Many a stupid relationship has begun on that premise, because I naively believed that no one with beautiful eyes can be evil. Au contraire, mon frere.
Anyways, one thing that I realized was always repeating itself in the faces of these Bollywood babes, was that their eyes were stunning. Colors from deep brown to the sheerest whisper of grey, these eyes!! And the shape, just so beautiful. I’m going to stop describing them now, because I feel stupid, first of all, because I’m heterosexual but all of a sudden don’t feel like it anymore. And second of all, because I’m supposed to want to be a writer, but don’t know all that many ways to describe beauty. Hmm…
See, I can lather myself up with coconut oil, and other fabulous ‘beauty products’ from here till kingdom come, and all of that will not widen my eyes one tenth of an inch, or give me even the shadow of a smoochier pout. At least not without surgical assistance, which for me is off limits.
I mean, I know quite a few Hollywood celebs I just don’t find pretty (Renee Zellweger, Paris Hilton to name a few), but I can’t imagine there being a single Bollywoodian anything less than gorgeous! Something in the water? WHAT IS IT? This is going to drive me insane…
Have a look for yourself, all ye unworthy people, and despair (maybe you’re not unworthy, I dunno).
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have a co worker at work she is from India , At first we all thought she was Brazilian until she reveal the guessing game.she is the most feminine woman I have ever meet, she is so natural pretty and so sexy without trying ,Olive skin beautiful eyes, sweet smile and a gorgeous body, the way she talks and smile drives me crazy every morning before we start working we are all ( men) waiting to see her, she comes and smile “Good morning guys ” we all melt with her presence. Bessie If you ever read this, we all the guys at work are in love with you, ( WE ARE jealous of your John )You are the most beautiful woman we have ever met. I am so glad I met you, One day i will travel to India and look for my own East Indian Girll like you.
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I can somehow relate to DJ mixxx
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Is it really computer made ? How did You get statistically valid number of photos of every nation – especially Afghan & Iran ?
Anyway, me can confirm the averages for some nations – Russian, Uzbek & Iran/Persian (Tajik). Surprisingly real avarages, BTW.
Really, the survey need to add some more nations – Ukrainian (both slavik & sarmat/turk types) first.
BTW, Italian & France (etc southern nations) women often feature large noses etc “distortions” so the “program” (sure, if exists) may filter those (may be – 99% of overall) thus resulting in the stunning beauties presented here which may be just exclusion from the rule.
From my experience, most beautiful nations are ones where marriages between relatives were allowed ( with less limitations to marry a beatuful mate – for different reasons – nation survival, uncare, feodal pressure,…) thus producing local “breeds” – russians/ukrainians, uzbek, tajik…
For the presented photo, my bests are – France, Iran, Uzbek & Hungary.
PS:
You’re right that excluded heavily mixed types like Brasil, Columbia etc since these don’t expose any ethnicity thus interestless here.
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Illiterate Stooge, I backed up all of my statements with evidence. You’re the one spewing distorted, dishonest and ignorant opinions.
Italians are on average 5’9″/1.76m (men) and 5’5″/1.65m (women):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_height#Average_height_around_the_world
Only ~15% of Italians have large convex/aquiline noses:
Dumb Stooge, Lady Gaga is a musician, Gisele Bundchen is a supermodel. Musicians can be ugly, but supermodels are supposed to be the most beautiful women in the world.
At least Gaga has a curvy feminine body:
Unlike stick-figure Gisele:
And I repeat: SNOOKI IS NOT ITALIAN. She’s still Hispanic. And you’re still an idiot.
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Italianthro….. you are the idioton here.your fact have no basis…
And I repeat: SNOOKI IS NOT HISPANIC. She’s still ITALIAN. And you’re still an idiot.
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That last one was not me, it was someone else pretending to be me, again. But I agree, Italianthro is extremely uneducated and ignorant. And no, Italianthro, I looked through your previous blowouts and you have not supported your opinions sufficiently. A few but not enough to write such theories without some backup. You obviously have not taken a college class in your life, haha! And you have not addressed my claims properly when disagreeing with me. I said, this site claims that ALL Italian women are bangable. I have proven that this is the opposite of the overwhelming truth. The truth is that not many Italian women are bangable. That includes bakers, singers, and models alike. I have already written this, but you have chosen again to ignore this statement. So I repeat it now. Italian women are mostly plain and mannish looking, and not many are beautiful enough to be considered bangable. Most Italian women do look like Lady Gaga unfortunately. And Italian people on average have more of those, according to Italianthro, convex noses, than any other nation, and its a lot more than 15%! One walk on the streets of Rome will explain this one real quick. Where do you get your info on this rare occasion that you quote a figure? There is more info to that than you are admitting. And as far as height ratio, Italians are some of the shortest people in Europe, and they are famous for this. Another walk in Rome, Bologna, Venice or Sicily will clear this up again quick. After seeing Europe, this is obvious. About half of Italian men were looking into my girlfriend’s face, and she is average for here, at 5’6″. But when we went farther north, west or east, the average height jumped up noticeably by several inches. There are other countries with shorter statures, like Russia for example. I took a flight from St. Petersberg to Copenhagen Denmark, and the average height jumped up about an entire head. It was undeniably noticeable. I’m taller than average, but I felt like a Redwood tree in Italy. I have read about how short Italians are for years. I see them walking around the Hermitage museum in St. Petersberg Russia, and they are the shortest people there, like Hobbits. Not all of them are short, but come on, its their reputation, and its an observable fact when in Italy, that Italians are shorter on average than most other Europeans. Everything I have said is true, about the average shape of faces, height, noses, everything. Yet Italianthro throws claims around like the models who had plastic surgery are not so great looking. Well, its a fact that his model of choice, Ambrosia, had plastic surgery! And he never admits his obvious hypercritical blunder. A dude who cannot admit his wrong is weak, morally, mentally, maybe physically as well. Maybe he is trying to compensate for a disability, or maybe just the illness of being an unfair ahole. Nope, not too many Italian women look like Monica Belucci, who is not the most attractive actress in Hollywood by the way. Several other top the list before her, in popular as well as polled choice. She is the best of Italy right now, be honest, not of the world. If Italy was such a beautiful country as this site claims, she would be the best looking actress, which she is not. So Italianthro, I’ll throw some figures in my next blog, but my observation while in Italy itself will suffice for now. Va fan culo.
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