Submitted for your edification. walawala writes:
I was chatting with a girl on an online website.
At some point, she says “You’re just not my cup of tea…”
I pause….
Then I replied…
Me: “Glad you said that…”
Her: “Why?”
Me: “I just saw your age, 35, actually I’m looking for someone younger, good luck”.
Her: Where you from?
Me: Sorry, I generally don’t chat with women over 29.
Her: Maybe if I knew you better
Me: silence…
End of conversation….
Flip the switch.
A few simple sentences is all it takes to psychologically move a woman from rejection (“you’re not my cup of tea”) to blossoming attraction (“maybe if I knew you better”). The power of game should never be underestimated.
Notice how walawala preps the woman for his reframe. He doesn’t immediately jump into the soulkilling age disqualification. He softens it first by saying “glad you said that”. This is a neurolinguistic trick that works by the effect of demonstrating composed indifference in the face of an ego assault, and by implicitly flattering the woman’s perspicacity, thus making her more receptive to the ensuing disqualification.
Well played, walawala.
I thought Wala did a good job with this one, too. Nicely played. Also makes you feel better.
Women are such attention hounds and Meists.
Once you learn the tricks, like Wala, you can play it like a musical instrument.
The sad thing:
Once you take the red pill, it’s hard to look at women, or romance, or even sex the same way.
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The red pill shatters illusions.
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8============================D
Haha!
Cocka, bitches!
Gorb, you’re right, the damned red pill has made me wonder if I can ever fall in love again. Dammit.
But I can say conclusively, that I’ve been able to ruthlessly garrote the crippling one-itis that used to besiege me when I get really attracted to a woman. The red pill has bestowed upon me the visage of a stone cold hustler.
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I like the less is more approach, especially if getting dumped
I’m breaking up with you / you’re not my cup of tea.
Cool
You’re okay with that?
Yeah, one door closes and another one opens.
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Do you have some rules for gaming in chats?
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I liked it too, but I thought it was just a bit harsh. Sometimes I feel bad for girls over 35
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I enjoy a nice mealoaf with mashed potatoes and green beans.
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Never take seriously anything a woman says in personal contexts. And she usually says the opposite of what she wants without even consciously realizing it, just as Roissy has pointed out that much of a woman’s shit-testing is automatic.
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Why would ANY man set his sights on a female over 30? List 3 reasons
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I use similar replies to these wanton bitches:
She: “I don’t think we’re a good fit.”
Me: “I agree. I didn’t give enough time to really look at you overall. I only date women with (insert whatever she’s deficient) D-cup breasts (this is my go-to). Happy hunting Boo.”
The first crackback from the bird is one of vileness.
Then, after a short amount of time, they’ll come back and validate themselves.
It’s more common for me to get a same night lay after this exchange, than not.
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“Why would ANY man set his sights on a female over 30? List 3 reasons”
1. He’s 75 and confined to a nursing home.
2. He has an SMV of 5 or less.
3. He’s a feminist dupe on his sixth wine cooler.
She could be a really hot MILF and available. It’s not impossible.
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women who are 35 have no value at all. i dont care how well they kept in shape. nothing can hide the ravages of age. gross.
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KarmaSutra,
That’s good. Like your approach.
But how does she validate herself in round 2 if you shot her down in round 1 for a deficiency she can’t change (in your example, tit size)
Shouldn’t you shoot for down in ways that allow her to promise to do better if you just give her another chance?
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You guys are too spoiled. I say if it’s pretty, fuck it.
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@Sean
How old are YOU? 20? lol
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Guns: yeah…. Get the fuck off chats!!!
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Absolutely perfect Walawala.
Last year I attempted to get together with a gorgeous gal (Phoebe Cates-like 9). When I picked her up, she begged off the bar and wanted to go to a movie. I knew that all was lost, and I wanted to see Inception anyway, so I went and ignored her all night.
Found out a week later that she used me to get back to her o m e g a ex. Whenever they broke up, she’d contact me, flirt, etc. I told her she should get in the car and drive 45 min to visit me, but she obviously only wanted to make the chicken man jealous.
Finally after their third breakup, she contacted me yet again. I told her “sorry, you’re too old for me now. Happy birthday by the way.” (She turned 30 a few months earlier). Her: “What? How is that possible? You’re older too!” Me: “Do you what kind of catnip grey hair and great income is on beautiful women?”
She immediately put on the full court press: “I’m free to drive up tomorrow.” “I still look good in a dress.” (Equivalent to: I’m not stupid!) Etc. I deleted her number. No need for that hag.
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Brother ‘Feller,
When you point out something she doesn’t have, without any feeling or remorse, it festers in her mind. Like a pimple on her tit, or a boil on her ass, she has to pop it or it’ll drive the bitch insane.
When she retorts there’s a veritable rock-in-the-slingshot at the ready to bust her ego.
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rogue,
agree.
but there’s a diff between saying something that’s meant as a forever rejection and saying something that motivates her to try harder for your cock.
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“Why would ANY man set his sights on a female over 30? List 3 reasons”
Easier to get into bed.
Give a mean blowjob.
Much older than the women.
There are more, but those are the first ones that come to mind…
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That was indeed well played. good job, walawala.
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Women over 30 are not easier to get into bed in my experience.
At that point they are husband hunting and playing chaste after having spent most of their 20s fucking alpha/bad boy types.
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Chatting with bitches on a website does not equate to game.
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Bullshit. He didn’t fuck her either way.
Kudos on the ego stroke tho.
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Agree and amplify the rejection. Okie-dokie
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I assume the cougar must have a very high self esteem if she her that and wasn’t absolutely crushed.
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damn…. 35 years old? poor girl..
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LOL I assume if the cougar was crushed with sadness, with the amount of botox in her face you wouldn’t see a frown anyways!
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Beautiful work, wala.
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Lara Logan‘s husband can rest easy knowing Sean won’t be trying to game here. Which one of you would turn down a woman who looked like that just because she was over 35?
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Here’s an online chat I had that might be interesting.
After the usual testing I decided to to see if I could ratchet up any genuine interest with LJBF
i see
but i dont know you that well
no u dont
so i think we should just be friends
do u think men and women can be friends
no
well sort of
but u just said we could
u might be able to qualify as a friend
what r ur prereqs
a friend would set me up with all her hot friends
a friend would make u soup when ur sick
and read to u
when ur upset
i never get upset
i am as healthy as an ox
really
i know how to read
ur so gracious
u noticed
good for u
and smooth
I know
10 minute pause before She came back
keeled over?
or working ur magic on some bimbo
both, ur back for more aren’t u
its only because i think u may have cake
and i want some
cake isnt good for your figure
why would u care
u wear a corset dont u
besides
and an iron mask
if u vomit afterwards
no one knows
do u always get so flirty like this online
ur realy like your bdsm dont you
oh shucks now im blushing
thats not blushing thats excitement
really
yep
ya big tease
pulease may i see ur straw
i wont touch
u want to….
but
its a family hair loom
well i have to sleep
whats ur email big boy
u know u want me
and u know u want me
email exchange ensued
note-lots of pauses throughout letting my silences prompt her to respond again
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Another reason I prefer well chosen words to silence…
walawala for the win!!!!
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I also don’t think this was anything special, for what did it accomplish – nothing. Flipped the switch, big deal – he could have done that three sentences earlier, by ignoring her.
The whole idea of looking for girls in chatrooms is not particularly alpha. Gengis Khan would not have been caught dead in a chatroom, had they existed in his time.
If I had a few hours to kill, I would not kill them in a chatroom with 35-yo bitches – I would go have a beer at the neighbourhood bar instead.
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Women over 30?
1. They generally give up the asshole (if you’re into that sort of thing)
2. They generally swallow
3. They have their own place
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The common structure is to agree, and then reframe with disqualification that is also a neg, preferably sexual. Why sexual? Because when they think later about a rejection like that, it will get their juices in their pants flowing.
Her: Sorry, I don’t think you are my type.
Me: Yeah, we both seem to like pussy too much.
Her: You are not good enough for me.
Me: I agree. I only date girls that can cum.
“Why would ANY man set his sights on a female over 30? List 3 reasons”
Just 3?
– knows how to cook
– knows how to satisfy a man in bed
– less shit tests, nagging, complaining, etc
– has money to pay for her own shit
– more interesting to be with due to life experiences/knowledge/wisdom
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Good, but I thought it was a bit harsh, like responding to a gentle slap with a flamethrower.
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Be hopeful, this is your competition:
http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/fnu2y/i_messed_up_with_my_friend_how_do_i_make_it_right/
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Any of you guys got a reframe when a 25 year old hottie asks you condescendingly, “how old are you, like 45?” I’m late 30’s. Stumped me completely.
[Editor: “Too sophisticated for you.”]
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It’d be foolish to believe a woman has certain qualities before getting to know her, especially if you’re just going off their age.
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DJ
How old does she look?
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Early 20’s or so. Not much to fire back with. Stumped me fully.
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Why would ANY man set his sights on a female over 30? List 3 reasons
1. If she’s over 30 she’s damage goods, those walls have been rubbed out more than Aladdins Lamp.
2. Having her own place means nothing except that she dictates the flow of events.
3. If she could cook she would be married, or she would have gotten pregnant at 28 when she decided not to hit the snooze button on her biological clock.
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‘little girl, isn’t it past your bedtime?’
‘old enough to know better.’
‘old enough to be banging your mom. give me her number.’
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Why would ANY man set his sights on a female over 30? List 3 reasons??
You do mean that in a long term relationship way right????
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I’m 35.
When an early 20s girl asks me how old I am (in a testing way), I tell her I’m 50.
Then she starts laughing and the whole thing turns into a joke.
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@dj
disqualify yourself, establish you’re sexually active, add a neg
Q: ‘what are you, like 45?’
A: ‘You’re right, I gotta stop doin kids’
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What Wala did was perfect. And for the naysayers regarding online chatting, it can be good for preselection. Online dating Game is different than real life Game in that women can, and do, reject far more frequently and for the stupidest reasons.
Online dating Game is far more of the numbers game. It’s quantitative first and only qualitative once the correspondence begins.
The “too sophisticated for you” response is also quite good when dealing with younger women.
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“25” said with a comedic straight face.
That’s my stock answer to the age question. It makes the girls break up laughing, as I’m obviously one or two decades senior to that age. Grossly underestimating your age and lying about it with straight face is funny, and funny is often the best angle. Funny is charming, if your body language and your whole schtick is playboy. For instance I often refer to myself as handsome. And that’s always good for a laugh. I say it with confidence – which adds to the comedic straight face value.
I understand that merely saying this is a hypnotic suggestion that speaks to the hindbrain, and like all good propaganda, it makes no difference whether it’s true or not.
I suggest you practice role playing seduction with girls you are currently dating. As you wait in the elevator, practice pick up lines on her. “Excuse me miss, do you live here?”. Girls NEVER tire of this game, and love it if you can adlib seductively.
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I used to do the opposite when I was younger. Sometimes a much older man would ask me where I was when he was my age and I would say things like, “Probably in a playpen.”
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My last experience of this kind, a few months ago, was (while in bed):
Her (26 yrs old): “I can’t believe I’m doing this with someone your age.”
But she did: over and over for the next three days.
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Once you understand game and it’s importance to keeping women on the hook, you can use it in a variety of ways.
This example was for women who think they can reject you.
Here’s today’s exchange with the girl I’ve started seeing. She gave me a nice tie for Valentine’s Day:
Me: guess what I’m wearing.
Her: My tie….looks good?
Me: wanna photo?
Her: Yup
Me: Better in person
Her: 🙂
later she wrote to see if we could meet up in person. I said yes, then got sidetracked with work and had to bail on her.
This little exchange works the same way as the rejection….
Question….arouse curiousity…get compliance with response….tease with beta-provider photo invite….then flip switch again with the “better in person”….
All this keeps her on the hook and you out of reach.
It’s the ultimate in being playful and a jerk without being truly a jerk.
I look at this above exchange as part of LTR game….
I now set up dates by saying: Meet me at 6pm Saturday at the corner of X and Y, bring XXXX.
So much more interesting than “Wanna go to the movies?”
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Nice response. When late 20’s early 30’s girls say bitchy shit to me I like to reply with “i’m sorry I didn’t catch that, the sound of your biological clock ticking drowned you out”
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@Hoodrat
The best response is no response. Rather, just a look that says “b*tch, you did not just say that.”
The next best response is a look of boredom along with just three words – “Are you done?”
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Guys, thx for the advice!
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@Serenety (sic)
“its a family hair loom”
Immortal man, I almost fell off my chair laughing.
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