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A Girl’s Tricks For Scoring Free Drinks

February 25, 2011 by CH

Some chick has posted (as of last week) a how-to guide for, presumably, cute girls to score free drinks from suckers betas heedless horndogs virginal aspies men. (Ugly girls have to buy men drinks to get any attention.) It is reposted here with accompanying Chateau editorial comment. Men need to know how to identify these mooches and turn the tables on them.

It’s hard to fault these unscrupulous whores for taking advantage of willing dupes. You’d do the same if you were a hot chick in her prime surrounded by buffoons. So it is in your interest to know the enemy and her tactics, and to surprise her with your deft defiance of her expectations.

Scoring free drinks is easier than you think. Give these fail-proof ways a try, and enjoy night after night of free drinking. Just remember, picking the right guy is crucial. You can’t go for a guy who is there with his girlfriend.

It’s not that uncommon to see beta herbs buy drinks for all his girlfriend’s bitchy friends, and even occasionally female interlopers. That’s how HHHwhipped and fearful they are. (Fear is the path to the beta side. Fear leads to sycophancy. Sycophancy leads to abasement. Abasement leads to grinding dry spells.) So she shouldn’t rule out taken men.

Pick a guy who is chilling near the bar. You can always count on “bros” because their frat bothers will usually be there cheering them on to get chicks.

Nice. But times are changing. If these frat brothers had any sense they would mercilessly mock their bro for buying a drink for a girl he’s not banging. Are we seeing more of that kind of very special in-field bro tutelage? General impression: yes. But still a long way to go.

1. Use intense eye contact. (The most obvious and most important) As soon as you walk in, start by making seductive eye contact with the bouncer to get started. The bouncers are friends with the bartenders, so this can help for next time. Sit by the bar, and look around until you make eye contact with a cute guy who catches your glance. Soon enough, he’ll come over to you, and get you a drink.

She’d do better making eye contact with ugly guys. They would be more grateful for the female attention and thus more amenable to getting thieved. “Cute guys” (and it’s a loose term that when used by women usually translates to “alpha guy who looks more cute than he really is because he behaves in a way that presses all my limbic buttons”) are likely to have more experience with women and their wiles, and won’t be as easy to manipulate with these crassly novice female ploys.

2. Look hot, but innocent. You know the drill. Show off your best features in a sexy outfit and work your stuff. Sadly, batting your eyelashes and flipping your hair still works as well as it did when your Mom was in college. Don’t forget the cleavage.

Any man who has an ounce of pride and self-control (a male trait which is very attractive to women, btw) can stare at a bodacious rack all night without feeling a compulsion to open his wallet and buy drinks for the biological package scaffolding the tits. If you are a man who can’t manage to pass this banal free drink shit test, you need to go back to day one and read through this entire blog. Sadly, you may be a lost cause.

3. If a guy opens up a tab next to you and only orders one drink, casually say, “Isn’t there a $10 minimum?”He knows he’s going to have to spend the money anyways, so he might as well buy you a drink, and possibly get your number.

Her post is interesting for a glimpse into the sheer number of shit test permutations that women can wield. If you get this line, acceptable shit-test busting answers are: “Are you the IRS?”, “I found a loophole”, “You’re right. Can you cover me?”, “That’s what she said”.

4. You’re dancing with a guy on the dance floor and he has a drink in his hand. You say, “What are you drinking?” while casually taking the drink from his hands and taking a sip. Keep dancing and then walk away. He won’t have the balls to ask for it back.

Any girl who grabs for my drink like a spoiled child is going to get disciplined like one. Viable answers: “Pussy juice”, “Dunno. A chick bought it for me”, “Shirley Temple”, “Gasoline”. If she manages to get her hand on your glass, push it away and ask her if her parents raised her to be a grub.

5. Go up to the bartender, point to some random guy, and say, “That guy over there spilled my drink.” Then give him puppy eyes and “remind” him of what drink you had. He’s going to make you a new one.

Do bartenders really fall for this? They tend to be a savvy lot, so it’s doubtful many girls get away with this. Anyhow, this is a risky move for a girl at her regular bar. If the bartender calls her out on her lie, she could be kicked out.

6. Befriend an older man at the bar. Um, hello… old fashioned manners. He’ll have to offer. And you will graciously accept.

Older men are wising up to this as well. Game knows no age limit. But as a personal observation, it seems younger men are more prone to fall for the free drink ruse. Horniness tends to cloud judgement.

7.  You’re sitting down and mingling with a friend, and a guy comes and talks to you. You smile, and say, “Aren’t you going to buy me a drink before you start hitting on me?” He will take this as flirting and will  always agree.

Another permutation of the same old same old shit test. Good answers: “I don’t buy drinks for strangers”, “I didn’t know I was planning on hitting on you” (very subtle neg), “That’s small potatoes. Ill give you a thousand to hit on you for a week.”

The idea is to undermine her free drink angling with the insinuation that she’s not far removed from a common street whore, without coming right out and saying it.

8.  If you have already flirted with the bartender, and he’s already made you a drink, you can try this. After you’ve finished the drink and he’s pouring a drink for someone else, flirtatiously tilt your glass and say, “You know where to put the extra.” If he doesn’t do it right away, give him a few minutes and he will.

Again this is horrible. Any bartender who falls for this is not worth his mixology license or his badboy tattoos. Good answer if she’s a bitch: “On your head?”. Good answer if she’s slightly less than a bitch: “In her glass?”, while pointing at a cuter chick.

9.  FLIRT. Never forget what using your mojo can get you. Talk to a guy for 5 minutes. It’s surprising how little it takes. If he’s looking for some action, he’s going to ask you if you want a drink.

Remember the fundamental law of gender relations: The road to victory is through penis in vagina. Flirting should lead to it, or it’s nothing but ego stroking for attention whores. And as any man who’s lived a day knows, buying drinks for girls is counterproductive to the goal of getting laid. No woman in the world has slept with a guy because he bought her a drink, unless he had compensating alpha factors that nullified the betaness of buying the drink.

10. At midnight, when your buzz is getting low, order yourself a glass of water at the bar, while staring at a guy drinking next to you. Lean in, and wait for the guy to say, “Is that all you’re drinking? You’ll say, “Yeah, but a vodka sprite sounds better.”He will order it for you.

A lot of these grrlpower tips rely upon abject betas setting the traps for themselves. If you have a lick of dignity and a smidgen of understanding about women’s sexual processes, you won’t be asking a girl if “that’s all you’re drinking?”.

11. Tap a guy on the shoulder who is ordering a drink.  Say “how about you order me a drink, and I’ll leave the tip?” He’s not going to make you leave the tip.

Good answer if you just want to have a laugh at her expense: “How about we screw, and I’ll leave the tip?”

Good answer if you prefer the more understated approach that explores the possibility of a pickup: “The bartender’s my friend, so you’d better be ready to leave a twenty”.

12.  Pretend it’s your birthday. If you’re really going for it, wear a crown.  You will probably get a drink “on the house” from the bartender or a guy you talk to will offer.

Never buy drinks for girls. That rule goes double for girls in birthday or bachelorette parties. Or you could put her on the spot and ask what gifts she got for her birthday. It’s fun to watch predatory girls squirm.

13.  Sit down by the bar and take on a bet that you know you will win. After a few minutes of conversation, switch to the subject you want to bet on. Then you can make the bet. Winner buys the drink. Ask him a guy question that a “man” would think he knows the answer to like a question about the 1991 Super bowl. He’s not going to know that you have planned the question.  And you’re talking to him, so he’s not going to care.

The way to counter this tactic is to offer a “best out of five” suggestion. Example: “How about we do best out of five, but I get to ask the last question.” Few girls know much about the hobbies of men. Ask her a question about tube amps or Call of Duty.

It’s not hard to get free drinks; guys just can’t help themselves (the poor schmucks).  Try these techniques, strut your stuff, and you’ll be set. Don’t feel bad; they want to talk to you. And hey, maybe you’ll end up going for them.

The irony in her tricks for getting free drinks from suckers lies in the fact that, although presented as a way to make a possible love connection, free drink buying will actually spoil a woman’s budding attraction for a man. Buy her a drink and you will go home the celibate monk you arrived as. But pass her shit test and don’t buy her a drink, and her eyes will sparkle with growing attraction for your demonstrated alphaness.

No, literally, they will sparkle. It’s weird.

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  1. on February 25, 2011 at 2:50 pm Lara

    This woman sounds like an alcoholic.

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  2. on February 25, 2011 at 2:54 pm Fake Craig

    This chick in a bar was yakking about how expensive beer was in Atlanta, expecting us to take a hint.

    Good ol’ Pete piped up and said, “If you think $4 for a PBR is expensive, you should see how expensive a hand job is.”

    She was gone in two seconds.

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  3. on February 25, 2011 at 2:55 pm Dat_Truth_Hurts

    Ask the girl if she wants a drink, when she tells you what kind – tell her to get you a beer also. Then proceed to chat her friend up.

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  4. on February 25, 2011 at 3:05 pm samseau

    Every time you buy a skank her drink your future continues to be sucked out of your asshole

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  5. on February 25, 2011 at 3:11 pm John Norman Howard

    2. Look hot, but innocent. You know the drill. Show off your best features in a sexy outfit and work your stuff. Sadly, batting your eyelashes and flipping your hair still works as well as it did when your Mom was in college. Don’t forget the cleavage.

    “Sadly”?

    I thought the article was supposed to be a celebration of all those little “feminine wiles”.

    Funny how the cunt, through all that verbiage, gives herself away on one word.

    “Look hot, but innocent.”

    Spin, little hamster, spin!

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  6. on February 25, 2011 at 3:12 pm Tinderbox

    Any guy girl who needs an Internet guide to learn how to manipulate and scam the opposite sex is obviously a loser with a small penis vagina and mommy daddy issues. ManWoman-up and be useful by treating girls guys like the princesses princes they deserve to be treated as, or else do us a favor and stay home playing WoW with your cats! The occasional drink handjob isn’t going to wear out your wallet fingers. Get with it, losers, and stop wasting our time!

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  7. on February 25, 2011 at 3:14 pm Ambiance

    When I get a girl asking me for a drink from me at the bar, my usual response is “Tell ya what, get the first round and I’ll get the next two”. It’s worked well for me. If she has no intention of getting the first round, it stops her from asking. If she gets the first round, she deserves the next two.

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  8. on February 25, 2011 at 3:18 pm Bill

    This amused me, not just for the annotations, but because the website pulled the article (it still exists in Google’s cache).

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  9. on February 25, 2011 at 3:19 pm Science

    “You’re sitting down and mingling with a friend, and a guy comes and talks to you. You smile, and say, “Aren’t you going to buy me a drink before you start hitting on me?” He will take this as flirting and will always agree.”

    If it costs me a drink to flirt with you, how much does it cost for a blow job? then turn to her girlfriend and ask if she’s a whore too.

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  10. on February 25, 2011 at 3:24 pm chi-town

    The odd thing was I never even thought about buying any girl a drink. I think I would have nightmares about if I did. I do feel bad about not giving a tip to one girl, however. I am usually against it, but this one girl really could have used a nose job. I should have told her.

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  11. on February 25, 2011 at 3:25 pm Science

    i should finish reading the post before I comment

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  12. on February 25, 2011 at 3:42 pm YR

    link seems to be down

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  13. on February 25, 2011 at 3:42 pm Southern Man

    If not interested: put your arm around her and say “C’mer, darlin’, let’s see if we can find someone that might buy you a drink.” Then start pointing out either obvious betas or bikers (depends on the bar). I’ve never bagged anyone this way but it’s fun to see them fume and stomp away.

    If interested, similar to Ambiance: “You get the first round and if you’re still interesting after that I’ll get the next one.” The moochers get mad but every now and then you get a keeper.

    Not that the girls are breaking down any doors trying to get me to buy drinks for them. The few times it’s happened since finding this blog I’ve been with still-beta friends and they turn into teaching moments for them.

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  14. on February 25, 2011 at 3:47 pm Gorbachev

    I picked up a pretty hot girl (7?) who cam home with me. I used the Apocalypse Opener when my spine was stiffened by alcohol. It was a meaningless media function for industry wannabes and bored semi-relevant types.

    My words: ”

    Her words: “You’ll have to buy me food first.” > It was an open bar but little food.

    I bought her food. We stayed up late. Sounds beta?

    Assumption: We were going out to have sex. She didn’t know me from a rock. We got food. We went back to my place to eat it. We stayed up talking and laughing a bit but being uncomfortable a bit. After awkwardness, I remember saying, “I’m feeling a little weird. A strange situation.”

    She said something to the effect of “It’s a little weird.”

    So I just moved in and kissed her. After all that, we had vast amounts of sex. It continued for months on and off. And occasionally after, in interesting situations.

    It was utterly sexual from the start. It presumed fucking from the get-go. No man had ever come up to her like that, she said; she’d never gone to bed with anyone. It was so unheard of, she thought – I want to fuck him.

    So: Vote.

    Was it beta to buy her dinner first? Was it beta to sit in awkwardness for 4 hours after getting back to my place?

    I never, ever let on that I didn’t intend to fuck her.

    Was it beta to almost get a drink thrown in my face?

    Was it beta to back away politely from a woman who genuinely seemed like she wanted my testicles on a plate?

    I felt pretty fucking beta through it all, actually. No alphaness.

    It felt lame, in all honesty. I don’t think I’d have the balls to do it again. It was the gin. And the boredom.

    But I got to bed her over and over and she turned out to be very cool. And not the type of girl who’d say yes to going home with a guy who just wanted to fuck her. She says – takes balls to pull shit like that. Must be big balls. And I’m bored and guys suck.

    Lovely to appeal to the jaded 30+ like that.

    But it still felt awfully beta – including sitting around for 4 hours, dancing around the inevitable subject: We’re here to fuck.

    Is it beta to buy dinner for a girl in this scenario?

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  15. on February 25, 2011 at 3:48 pm Gorbachev

    One guy told me a Real Alpha would get her to buy him dinner, then leave her right after sex.

    On the other hand, I got to bang her for months. Likely still could. For various reasons.

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  16. on February 25, 2011 at 3:51 pm Workshy Joe

    Great stuff.

    Richard Feynman had a chapter on this in “Surely You’re Joking Mr Feynman”.

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  17. on February 25, 2011 at 3:54 pm A. Nonny.mous

    Wow. I can’t believe thsi stuff works. Even before I discovered game, and was back in college, I never would have fallen for these tricks. Its depressing so many guys are so pussy whipped.

    It’s also amazing that many men who , amongst guys, are very dominant then turn into whipped little stuttering children around the fairer sex (lol). A man can kill you, but a woman can only reject you. And yet there are so many men with more fear of the latter than the former.

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  18. on February 25, 2011 at 3:56 pm collegeslacker

    I love it when they do this, cause it works on 99% of dudes around here. So when they do it to me and I refuse it builds serious intrigue. I snagged a grade A+ attention whore/superflirt who never buys her own drinks this way a few weeks ago.

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  19. on February 25, 2011 at 3:56 pm A. Nonny.mous

    Gorbachev, I would say there are certain times its ok, but I wodner if the Dark Lord here would agree. After all, if you used the Apocalypse Opener, you’re being crude, but open. She counters that for sex, she needs payment. Neither of you are being coy, or dishonest. Had she tried to walk out and not given it up, that would have been massively bitchy, but only a massive bitch would have done it—and those rarely would have agreed in the firts place.

    All i can say is, well played.

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  20. on February 25, 2011 at 4:00 pm collegeslacker

    @Gorbachev

    Not beta. More like handicap/vulnerability game. It blended well with the balls out AO hook.

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  21. on February 25, 2011 at 4:01 pm Simon Grey

    I’m going to call this the “Alcoholic Woman’s Paradox” because women abhor being around and talking to betas, and yet betas are the only ones upon whom this sort of vacuous flirting works.

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  22. on February 25, 2011 at 4:16 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

    when you’re on a date buying a girl FREE DRINKS (fuck that is for pussys with no game) know taht the girl is working for the federal reserve & during destert or her last martini you got her that is ben bernanke or tucker max she is texting… or maybe me lzozllzllzlz lzolzzlzozlozlozo

    http://greatbooksformen.wordpress.com/2010/06/08/when-youre-on-a-date-know-taht-the-girl-is-working-for-the-federal-reserve-during-destert-that-is-ben-bernanke-or-tucker-max-she-is-texting-or-maybe-me-lzozllzllzlz/

    last chcik i hooked up with shared this rap with me:

    i gots my fiat cash from ben bernake,
    gettin’ my dinner from the herb beta,
    texting GBFM for a midnight spank me,
    i don’t butthex, but i’m no playa hata

    lzozllzllzlzlzl

    when you’re on a date know taht the girl is working for the federal reserve as she is trying 2 get you to pay for gaining access to the pussy she gave away for free lots in college when she was younger hotter tighter during all the mandatory pre-cats-spinsterhood prima noctae deosuling sessions, in teh same way the fed gets you to bail out the banks who just gambled your pensions savings away when they were younger hooter tighter… or somethihnng… you get my drift .. unless you are a betadipshit lzozlzlzl

    lozlzllzlzllz

    from an early age womenz are deosuled by over sexulization of briteny spears mileyly cyrus bratz dolls lozlzlzlzlzlzlz as ocmmanded by the fed which must desoul women to make them less loyal t2 god husband family lzozlzl and more loyal 2 the fed lzozllzl and the almighty fiat dollar (which is basless debt zlzozlzlzlz). a fiat system inverts all of entirety exalting secretive tapoers of butthex to the pinnacles of publsihing, while deconstructing teh great books anbd classics lzozllzlzlzl

    so when you are out with a womenz buying her dinner chances are

    0) she is working for the fed lzozlzl what do you think law shcool business school trains womenz 2 do? to serve teh almighty fiat dollar above all else lzozllzzl and use buzzwords and short skirts to convert fiat debt into physical welath and property as teh fiat debt trickles on down and the phsyical wleath ghushes on up lzozlzlllzlzl ever wonder why goldman sax rhymes with tucker max & gets richer and richer as poeple get poorer and poorer and teh national debt grows and grows? someone must be spenidng the money that is augmenting the debt for everyone else lzozllzz and that would be goldman sachs and the warfare and welfare states it funds, alongside fmeinism, which denies a women her greater chance for glorya nd story and uses her temptress wiles to help the fiat masters convert fiat debt into property lzozlzlzl. poor ladies they end up butter and alone and soulless with cats as teh fed goes lzozlzlzlzlllzllzlzlzlzl women’s right to choose!!
    1) someone had her hotter younger tighter for free and you are now buying her dinner
    2) she was deosuled in secrteive tpaings of assoccking sessions taped without her conthent which the neocns are fond of lzozlzll
    3) when she texts during dinner she is setting up plans for a midnight assocking sessiomn with an alpha who creates welath from thin air someone like the head of the fed who wires it to goldman sax which rhymes witgh tucker max lozlzllzlzl who gets book deals from women-riun publishing houses like simon ans shcuster lzolzlzl because tehy dleight in his debt-creating debuachery-creating art succeth of losing ten million on a twelve million film as well as his asscocking sessions and secretiev tapings of butthex iwthout their girlsths contehnt which he publishes for both neocon pleaseure and profit lzozlzllz
    4) if you do get married 2 her there is a fifty percent chance it will end in divroce. lolzlzl would you get on airplane if it crashed 50% of the time? lzozlzllzlzlo hell no!! and what if, after it crashed bevcause your wife was fucking some biker drummer mba in teh cockpit (as he put his cock in her cock pit lzozlzl), what if after she cuased it to crash, you had to give her half your assets and begin paying for past use of her pussy? lzozllzllzlzl plus by going down once the plane will have gone down more times than your wife once she is married–dats a joke! lzozlzllzllz
    5) 2/3 to 3/4 of womenz initiate divorce as it transfers a mans assett s to teh fed/divorce regime as womenz are trianed to do in school with promises of her ex husband having to pay alimonies for past use of a pussy and fund and reward her further asscocking sessions tthat hshe hand’t had since college but whcih she missed dearly lzozlzlzloz (once back never back! lzozlzl or once in the back door, nver back! or you make your own joke here lzozllzlzzl i hate puns) she will get full rights 2 the kids and take them with her for her array of step boyfirends/fathers 2 abuse as abuse skyrockets in fmailies where the real dad is absent lzozlzlzlzlzllz, which is why the fiat neooncs detest fatherhood and the heoric spriit zlozllzlzl and love womenz who “tame men” lzozlzlzl and keep them from accessing tehir Natural Rights lzozlzl
    6) rising womenz generlaly make more than men these days as they are paid in fiat dollars which really only create debt and so it is that womenz excel at creating debt and they call this wokr lzolzllzlzlzl so let them buy some fiat dinners and drinks with their fiat dollarz lzozlzll

    seriously do u guys still date?

    i mean i love the laides but they look down on guys who ask them out. lzozllzlzlzlzl

    last chcik i hooked up with shared this rap with me:

    i gots my fiat cash from ben bernake,
    gettin’ my dinner from the herb beta,
    texting GBFM for a midnight spank me,
    i don’t butthex, but i’m no playa hata

    lzozllzllzlzlzl

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  23. on February 25, 2011 at 4:18 pm Gorbachev

    @A. Nonny.mous
    Gorbachev, I would say there are certain times its ok, but I wodner if the Dark Lord here would agree. After all, if you used the Apocalypse Opener, you’re being crude, but open.

    There was an open bar and everyone there was sauced. It was boring and pretentious and all the women were wearing slinky outfits (if they could). There was no shortage of hotties – I targeted over-30 / late 20s. The guys were either alpha media jerkballs (who didn’t need this shit to get their dicks wet – seriously, they fuck everything that moves) or beta schlubs in suits schmoozing for chicks and showing off their pauncy name badges (“Yeah, I schedule shows for Fox/I’m in content development/I’m senior PA for XXYY/I have a shitty grunt job, little money, but check out my snazzy pretentious title”).

    Most of the women were variously media-slutty. Oddly–

    The AO *DIDN’T* work on the others I approached. I might have gotten a yes from the married Indian girl, maybe not, but she seemed the type. Hubby was probably coming to get her. She totally seemed like the one to go home with a strange guy.

    On the reasonably hot white chick, I thought I was going to get ejected hard – she was clearly Incensed. Totally lost my nerve. It took three more drinks and a couple of hours to get back into frame.

    It DID work on one chick in a hot dress who was sitting alone. I picked her for : 1) reasonably hot, 2) Nobody within 20 feet (total ASD immunity) and 3) seemed not the type, and I was going to try one last time. Actually, she was just one of the last availables.

    And she looked at me like I was a red elephant in a tutu and I still remember her expression, all bemused surprise. After a moment’s alcohol-denied hesitation, home with me she went.

    Didn’t feel Alpha at the time.

    Think about it: YOU are on the line; YOU are asking for sex, essentially; YOU are putting it out. SHE is judging/accepting.

    Actually, seems VERY UN-ALPHA.

    But got seriously laid. So is getting laid like this alpha?

    She counters that for sex, she needs payment.

    More or less. She just wanted food. She probably debated fucking me all night – and when it stalled (for 3-4 hours), it only broke because I may not be Alpha on hard pickup and enticement, a la Roosh, but I’m fucking genius with comfort.

    By the time we were banging, she knew lots about me; two months later, we were regular fuckbuddies.

    This is what I’m saying:

    It MAY NOT be Alpha. Is the only relevant factor getting laid?

    A real badboy alpha might have had all-yes instead of Random Success yes.

    On the other hand, salsa club = no debate for me.

    I guess you play to your “zone”.

    Neither of you are being coy, or dishonest. Had she tried to walk out and not given it up, that would have been massively bitchy, but only a massive bitch would have done it—and those rarely would have agreed in the firts place.

    She wasn’t the kind to fuck like a slutty whore; she was pretty straight-laced, actually. No man had ever been so direct in her life. She was astounded.

    That said, I made sure she was well and truly pounded at all times. It was brazenly and openly sexual at all times.

    All i can say is, well played.

    No – I might have done better. It FELT very Beta; my approach was wrong in many ways (what little approach you can have); and I picked the wrong targets several times.

    And my reaction to a couple was lame.

    So this doesn’t seem very “alpha”, and though it worked, this occurred to me later:

    It was kinda random and it worked because I happened to hit on the right girl in PRECISELY the right frame of mind – under almost all other circumstances, she’d never have done it. IE, had I met her in a bar, no chance.

    At the time, I felt like Superman. Afterwards, on analysis, it didn’t feel so much like that.

    More recently, I won my Super Alpha patch. Again, comfort.

    Play comfort as much as possible.

    You play to your strengths, right?

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  24. on February 25, 2011 at 4:20 pm maurice

    I wish it were true that only the desouled women try to shake down guys for free stuff. Sadly they are all that way to one degree or another.

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  25. on February 25, 2011 at 4:22 pm amanda

    free drinks are way way easier than this crazy chick says. it’s odd/ manipulative to me that she has a strategy. i’ve often had random guys just offer to buy me a drink out of nowhere.

    just a few weeks ago i was at a bar in San Francisco and went to the bar to buy my boyfriend a drink. i was leaning up against the bar trying to get the bartender’s attention, credit card in hand. a guy on the barstool next to me asked “do you fancy me?” i shrugged and looked away. next he asked what drink i was getting so i told him. then i ordered it from the bartender, when it came random dude said “let me buy it for you”. so he bought my bf a free drink.

    low, i know. but FAR too easy.

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  26. on February 25, 2011 at 4:23 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

    most chix who r 3s think they are 9s because now and then an alpha gets drunk and bored and bangs the shit out of them lzozllzlzlzlzlzlzl

    lozlzlzlz! omg i made it thank you thank you!!!

    http://roissy.wordpress.com/2010/04/28/best-reader-comments/

    this is going on the back cover of my upcoming book:

    “ozzllzlzlzlzlzl!

    most 3s think they are 9s because now and then an alpha gets drunk and bored and bangs the shit out of them lzozllzlzlzlzlzlzl

    she sounds like a 2 who got banged by 7 drunk alphas so she reasons that 2 + 7 = 9.” –bestsest quotas ever from da r!! lozllzozlzzl

    http://roissy.wordpress.com/2010/04/28/best-reader-comments/

    then later on they think they are 9s because they count 1
    2
    3
    4
    5
    6
    7
    8
    9
    cats

    9 cats! i’m still a 9!

    from banging 9 douchebags per week in college who got my prima noctae youngest hottest tightest years for free as commanded by bernanke to 9 cats lzozlzlzlzlzlz which leaves me more time to maekrt subprime loans. kids, families, and husbands are silly antiquated ideas and bernanke has liberated me from this all with fiat dollars and debt as they bankrupt the wolrd and liberate us with secretive tapings of butthex like tucker max does and gets pumped and hyped in teh neocon weekly standard butthexed secretly taped without my conthent lolzlzlzlz i’m a nine! buthexed 9 times makes me a nine! lzozllzlz

    http://greatbooksformen.wordpress.com/2010/05/26/most-chix-who-r-3s-think-they-are-9s-because-now-and-then-an-alpha-gets-drunk-and-bored-and-bangs-the-shit-out-of-them-lzozllzlzlzlzlzlzl/

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  27. on February 25, 2011 at 4:24 pm A. Nonny.mous

    Nah, in a sense, we’re all asking the girls for sex. Nobody’s forcing anyone here. It is still ultimately their choice to have sex. It was balls-out alpha, since you didn’t try to buy her or fool her.

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  28. on February 25, 2011 at 4:25 pm amanda

    let me add to that. because in fact, it’s SO easy to get free drinks, it’s not fun anymore. so when i was single a little while ago, and some guy offered to get me a drink i’d challenge him to get a cougar to get HIM and me a drink. that actually worked a few times 😉 might as well turn the tables and have some girls do the buying.

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  29. on February 25, 2011 at 4:25 pm Chazz

    I used to fall for this shit all of time. I mean logically it makes sense. Then I learned better and never buy girls drinks. The one exception is if I have a girl out on a date I will normally buy 3 or 4 rounds (to loosen those panties) because I mostly date young girls and I am obviously much better off financially.

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  30. on February 25, 2011 at 4:30 pm Whatever

    The girl who wrote this sounds homeless.

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  31. on February 25, 2011 at 4:31 pm 25

    Lots of men have bought me a drink (or several) and I never tried any of those tricks. I always offer to buy someone a drink if they buy me one if we have been chatting a bit and they are going to buy more drinks.

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  32. on February 25, 2011 at 4:31 pm Gorbachev

    @collegeslacker
    @Gorbachev
    Not beta. More like handicap/vulnerability game. It blended well with the balls out AO hook.

    She later told me any guy who just came up and asked her to have sex was either a complete dick, a PUA (which you won’t see there) or a loser. I didn’t seem like a loser (actual job, social skills, not ugly – just normal), seemed straightforward and not slimy, and no lines. She was stunned.

    She later told me I surprised her: She thought I’d be Straight To Bed and more slick than I was; she expected One Night Of Variously Slimy Sex, but thought it might not be. Instead I turned out to be a Real Guy, her words. She was surprised like this.

    Beta sex?

    She’s said repeatedly that it was the best sex of her life: No strings, enthusiasm and completely sexual environment. Lesson: Fuck her right and if you want her again, make sure she’s happy. Also sounds beta. But I’m convinced it’s also true. Selfish bastards may get it hard the first time, but being a decent lay means you get it later, too.

    Women can spot PUAs – which I don’t come across as – I’m careful, I’m good at not throwing out lines, and I’m easy to be comfortable around – I value social skills and environment blending more than Assholery, maybe another approach would be better.

    I can’t seem to maintain assholery consistently enough, except when I was in China, where it was easy to come across as Alpha Bastard, and the women absolutely loved it – not for BFs, but damn, did they love to have sex with bad boys – dancers to bankers to Daddy’s Good Girls, what Chinese guys don’t know about Chinese women.

    But asshole game might have won me the first approach.

    Looking back on it, victory seems to much like luck.

    I’m re-evaluating the value of asshole game.

    It might be worth more than I initially gave it. I’ve seen some pretty amazing shit recently.

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  33. on February 25, 2011 at 4:34 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

    for those of you pussysy beta betabherbs just joinging da GBFM !!!

    Great Books for Men 101 lozlzloslzlzl every day in class we woudl discuss roissy & a great book lzozlzllzlzl and me lzozlzllzl dom

    From Days of Broken Arrows: “Honestly dude, I’ve made my living as a professional writer for years and have to tell you this is genius. …” acomment here:

    http://greatbooksformen.wordpress.com/wp-admin/post.php?post=142&action=edit

    Neocon Butthex: symbology and terminology in the works of Great Books for Men

    lzozllzozlozozlzlzzollzlz omg

    with all da womnez classes out tehre studying how to get asscoked by men in college and then butthex them divroce court on down th line if igured it would be fun for some men’s classes lzozlzlzlzlz. wheree weo wuodk rea dteh greta books like homer dante shekapre roissy homre virgil dante roissy plato aristitle socrateces ciecero dante lzollzzlzllz omgh yahah

    in our week devoted to keynsiean eocnomics we woudl read tucker max’s tsory about secritive tapoings of butthex without the girl’s conthen as well as charlotte allen’s take on tucker max from the weekly standfardth as they are far more honest about the nature of keynsian eocnomics than are the keynie wieneies. lzozlzllzl

    in the same way the fed butthexes the dollar in secretive meetings after gambling away the peopel pensions, tucker tapes secrteiv etapings of butthex for persoanl profit and publishing enjoyment for teh noeocns lzozllzlzl. in the same way women say they detest assholes, while promoting tehir secrteive tapings ofasscokcing books and repeating the ir PR lies about tehir exaggertaed height and wiring tehm hundreds of thousands of dolalrs from simon and schuster like priscilla painton did lzozlzlzl, the fed says that it’s main job is to fight inflation and prevent bubbles, while it creates both. lzozlzl. i mena how else are you gonna transfer fiat debt into physical property and welath without mba buzzwords and womenz wearing short skirts fronting the inflation and deflation of bubbles up and down up and down as tucker maxth’s cock goes in and out in and out in teh secrteive tpings of tbutthex without teh girl’s contehnt that female execitives and promointent female reproeters enjoy amn d promote zlolzlzl womenz lzozllzlz what is uyp with womenz and asscockers? i’m gonna have 2 ask dem zlzozll lzolzllzzllz lzzolzlz zlozlzlz.

    so you see why the fed loves funding womenz as both exist and have as their fundamental nature to say one thing and do the exact opposiite lzozlzl.

    review:

    THE FED: we exist to prevent bubbles and stave off inflation
    (lzozllzl they creted teh dot com and hosuing bubles to transfer trilliosn in welath zlozlzlzllzllz as teh debt trickled on down and engulfed teh country lzozlzllz)

    WOMEN: We want nice guys. Where ahave all teh nice guys gone?
    (lozlzllzlzl they publish and promote secrteive tapers of butthex without teh girlths contehnt lzozlzlzl whne men ran the publsihing unindustry this didn’t happen lozozlzl which is why teh fed had to fund teh feminsit moevemnt–to get rid of classical NATRUAKL law and ORDER lzozlzlzlzl and thus freedom as there can be no freedom without law and order lzozlz)

    omg lzozlzlz

    the GBFM textbooks are being written! lzozllzlz

    the critics are deocnstructing and debating me! lzozlzlzlzl faster than a neocon on an anus to publish and profit off of secrtive tapings of butthex stories in teh neocn mags and publishing houses!

    lottsa people think i am roissy even my mom called me roissy the otehr night and so did this chick i had over but then i relaized she was saying “your face is glossy” because whe was on e and meth and i had been down there getting my face shellacked on her caidllac pussy lzozlzllzlzlzl

    the debate so far:

    http://hawaiianlibertarian.blogspot.com/2010/06/lolzlozlzozlzolzolzolzol.html

    I’m pretty sure GBFM is actually a parody of the commenters on Roissy’s blog. He doesn’t beleive any of the stuff. It’s just satire.

    I don’t know why some people seem to like GBFM. I think he’s annoying and I always skip reading his posts.

    Silly stuff. I wonder what valuable purpose it serves. By the way, have you seen the “Robin Hood Oath?”

    http://constitutionparti.blogspot.com/

    Anon and Greenlander…you both couldn’t be more wrong. GBFM has a method to his madness, but the things he’s referring to are very real. Simplified…but when you understand exactly how the Federal Reserve operates, and how the elites have socially engineered society to create the current dystopia we inhabit, you would understand precisely what GBFM is talking about.

    Keoni, I understand that he’s making some valid points. Feminism, the Federal Reserve, government ponzi schemes, etc. destroying this country. I read The Economist cover to cover every single week. I get it.

    I’m just saying that his PRESENTATION is annoying. Why can’t he make his points in proper English and sentence structure like the rest of the civilized world?

    lozlzlzozlzlzl my presentation is annoying. lzozlzl wahahaha whahahahaha whahahhahahahahahahahh!!!

    never in a million years will be betas in tehir singel mom’s basements (lsiteing to her bang fed-funded cock which their real beatdads must pay for lzozozolz) ever call out teh billion trillion dolalr bailouts nor the fifty million aborted fetsuthes nor tghe secrteive tapings ofa sscocking butthexing sessions for neocon publishing and profits, but instead, they will rail against my spelling lzozlzlzlzlzl i can’t decide who is more annoyting the aging neocn ladies or the fanboyz in tehir single mom’s basements lzozlzllzlzlzl

    at least when the tyranny begins the propagnda will be spelled corretcly–that is the fanboys and enocns gretaest concthern, that butthex is spelled properly–buttthhhhetthhxhxhx

    lozlzlllz

    http://www.misandryreview.com/hawaiian-libertarian/2010/06/02/lolzlozlzozlzolzolzolzol/

    lzozlzlzlzlzl

    http://www.inmalafide.com/2010/06/05/the-mencius-moldbug-of-the-roissysphere/

    I secretly think GBfM is Roissy’s alter-ego. lozlzlzzl

    The problem with GBFM is that large swaths of Austrian macro are batshit crazy. When it comes to economics, there really are worse things in heaven and earth than Ben Bernanke. Money is the hardest subject in all of economics and while Ben Bernanke and the mainstream macroeconomists are not the fountains of wisdom they think they are, there are no easy, mechanistic solutions to problems in human behaviour, such as how to best run the currency system. Keynes may have inspired all sorts of silly ideas among his followers, but his essential insight that a demand for money can reduce the demand for everything else is completely true.

    The person writing these posts might be a perfectly cogent individual who’s writing them in jest, but either way, it’s fucking annoying. I wouldn’t be surprised if GBFM is Fifth Column like you suggested MikeeUSA is.

    hey wat d u losers have against star wars figures and using them to demonstrate the basic principles of eocnomics so as 2 ediucate faculty jmembers as 2 the differences beteween keynisain and aystrian eocnomcicici?

    lozlzlzlzl how else is one supposed to demo the fdifference between butthex and holding hands?<<<<<<<<<<<<

    I suppose a Ken doll alternatively butthexing a Barbie and a GI Joe seems more graphically illustrative to me, but there's no accounting for aesthetic tastes, is there?

    “The “Federal Reserve” is simply GBFM’s reference to the power elite…the social engineers of society.”

    I’m sorry, but I just can’t stand by any longer and watch people get played like fools. GBFM doesn’t have some grand theory of the world. He’s a satire of the more outrageous comments over at Roissy’s blog.

    That’s why he uses ridiculous internet slang and vague, ambiguous references to various concepts that have nothing to do with one another, i.e. Tucker Max and Ben Bernanke. He wants to intentionally sound stupid in order to discredit the people who agree with his comments.

    Mencius Moldbug is the wrong analogy. The correct analogy is Tina Fey and Sarah Palin. GBFM is to Roissy’s commenters as Tina Fey’s impersonation is to Palin.

    @Dave from Hawaii

    I don’t think GBFM is clueless. In fact, I think he’s a very clever troll. My question to you: if he has a truly cogent point to make, why is he using the ridiculous slang and obtuse references? Why not just talk like a normal human being?

    lozlzlzlzlzlzlzl yah “Why not just talk like a normal human being?”

    yah why not depocnstruct teh greta books and classics and why not exile fatehrs form the home and wage war on fatherhood and manhood lzozlzlzl yah why not bail out the feminbanks with billions while reclaiming tghe common man’s homes and pensions lzozlzllzlzlzlzllz?

    why not?

    why not?

    why not?

    asstrards aklaklak izkzkzkkz

    i ocunter all the asstards fanboyz in teh thread iwth my gbfm brilliance lozlzl

    lozlzlzlzlzlzl you fucktards

    it’s not a fucking conspiracy theory you fucks

    it’s happeing right out in fornt of your fucking faces you ass fucks

    jesus chcist sometime i lose all hope in men as all you beta mastabetas are playing vidoe games in your single mom’s baesment as she’s banging fed dufnded druggie cock up above and your reall dad has to fund her banging random coks lkzozllzllzllzl omg lzozlzl

    and then you crucify people who spit truth 2 power and go “whahaha whahah whahah poeple at elite institutions are very nithe and they would never bankrupt a country nor would women kill 50,000,000 unborn.”

    wake. the. fuck. up. you fuckityfuckmastabetas.

    women just murderd 50,000,000 unborn by their chocie alone lzozlzlzlz after the fed deosuled them in asscocking sessions in college it was easy to get them to turn on their iunborn lzozlzllzlzl that’s why the bankers fund assocking and fmeinisms lzozlzlz

    and 2 our coutry is fucking bankrup you stupid fucks.

    50,000,000 unborn murdered and we’re trillions of dollars in the hole (lzozlz the gina).

    it didn’t just happen you FUCKS.

    the poeple who count every penny abd whose life revolves around obtaining welath certainly did not place us 14 trillion in debt by mistake you ass cocks. no–they got to spend that 14 trillion created form thin air, which your chidlren and you must now pay off lzozlzlzlzllzlz

    not all of you are stupid fucks, but too many of you are.

    for teh stupid fucks go hang out at maxim and cosmo.

    leave realiuty and truth to the men and the great books 4 men. lzozlzlzlzl

    all you stupid fucks have juyst been passed by womenz who have been trained to tempt and take all that men make–lzozlzllzlz

    http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2010/05/the-end-of-men/8135

    lozlzlzllzlz

    relax men

    women may have more jobs and get paid more but remember it’s all in debt-based dollars that ben bernanke prints at will

    see the fiat masters conquered our country and when conquering a country it was custumary to kill the menz and let the womenz live on to pump ‘em zlozzllzl

    but the fiat masterz said “hey why not keep the men aorund lzozllzlzlzlz, and what would be even funnier would be to have the men who create and produce everything be managed by soulless whores who we butthexed at harvard and yale thusly deosulling them. lzozlzllzlzzl! and now the osulles harpies are transferring the man’s assetts to us–the money masters who create money out of thin air; whether the soulles harpies are doing it throuigh marraige and divorce or as MBA managers lzozlzlzllzlzlozzlzlo.” omg lozlzllz

    –http://www.inmalafide.com/2010/06/05/the-mencius-moldbug-of-the-roissysphere/

    and then i stick up for ol roissy roiisy

    name one blog that gets more traffic/comments than roissy’s

    roissy’s got staying power 2 go all night long and then the next whole day and night too nonstop into ten years and a hundred years on down the road like homer virgil shakespeare lzozlzl as rtruth is immortal and does not care what betaboyz think lzozlzlzl

    u guys can’t even compete with a truckload of viagragra lzozlzlzlzl

    lozzllzlzlz

    http://www.inmalafide.com/2010/06/05/the-mencius-moldbug-of-the-roissysphere/ lloozlzz

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  34. on February 25, 2011 at 4:35 pm viralata

    here’s a great one I sometimes use if the mood is right….

    next time a girl is giving the “get me a drink” vibe…

    she’l probably flirt a bit…expecting you to take the bait…

    you say “would you like a drink?” ….

    she says: (eyes all a flutter) “Oh, how kind! yes please!” (tee-hee)

    Go down to the other end of the bar so she cant hear you and ask for a glass of water, walk over to the waitress station and grab a cherry or two and put it in the water…this part is important….MAINTAIN EYELOCK UPON RETURN, with her refreshing beverage say:”here you go!”…with a big shit eating grin on your face…

    when she asks what it is and you say “water!”…. watch her face…even if she leaves the expression you’ll get is totally worth it.

    If shes a cunt, she’ll walk and save you trouble, but if played right you’ve got a big fat foot in the door and the rest is yours to fuck up.

    viralata

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  35. on February 25, 2011 at 4:41 pm dragnet

    I briefly addressed this over at Obsidian’s a few days ago:

    “4) Men generally want sex more than women. Women are programmed to view sex as resource to be traded for value. This means that many women will attempt to leverage their sexuality to extract value from men…without delivering on the implied promise. Don’t be that sucker.”

    http://obsidianraw.bravejournal.com/entry/62171

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  36. on February 25, 2011 at 4:47 pm MJH

    Lots of guys don’t know this, unfortunately. Mostly because buying drinks is/was a part of the culture. So you have to deal with some entitlement.

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  37. on February 25, 2011 at 4:48 pm James

    Related…

    I used to be exactly the kind of guy who would fall for most of these tricks. I just didn’t know any better.

    I’ve been reading this blog for about 6 months now, and it has completely affected how I respond to such blatant opportunism and shit tests. Just last week I was in a bar and a girl I haven’t seen in years came over and tried to hustle a free drink. I said “How about you buy me a drink.” It was so simple, and it worked. Later in the night, she ended up asking me for a ride home, and we ended up having some pretty good sex. I put very little effort in to it.

    It is amazing how something so simple affects how women perceive you. Had I caved, and bought her the drink, she probably would moved on from guy to guy, and that would have been the end of it. My refusal is what kept her coming back and talking to me.

    It was as easy as sitting at the bar, talking to my guy friends, and acting aloof/disinterested. Just a year ago, I would have followed her around like a puppy.

    Roissy, Thanks for what you do sir.

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  38. on February 25, 2011 at 4:51 pm Schwanson

    Good post. Great comebacks.

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  39. on February 25, 2011 at 4:59 pm James

    greatbooksformen GBFM-

    What is wrong with you? Seriously, go away.

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  40. on February 25, 2011 at 5:04 pm Erik

    I took the liberty of exploring that site.

    Turns out college girls are already riding the cock carousel.

    Just another reason to pump and dump.

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  41. on February 25, 2011 at 5:07 pm Hitman

    I have a standard line I give random chicks who ask for drinks.

    AW: “Do you wanna buy me a drink?”

    Me: “Do I get a blowjob?”

    AW: “You’re not that lucky.”

    Me: “You’re not that thirsty.”

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  42. on February 25, 2011 at 5:12 pm l.

    Roissy, you need to meet some Southern girls. Your impression of women is ruined somehow. There are some of us who think it’s our job to look good, have lots of sex, act sweet, make money, take care of the kids and house, do volunteer work, and host fun dinner parties for our spouses and their friends.

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  43. on February 25, 2011 at 5:12 pm Begby

    Amanda, thanks for the case study in how amoral and cuntish women are. A person with any shred of integrity would have politely turned down the request, and perhaps said something like “this drink is for my boyfriend”.

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  44. on February 25, 2011 at 5:14 pm Science

    unrelated:
    http://www.thefreemanonline.org/featured/seasteading-striking-at-the-root-of-bad-government/

    what do you think?

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  45. on February 25, 2011 at 5:15 pm last tango

    depends on calibration and vibe.
    “Can I buy you a drink?” is basically Apocalypse Opener lite, same as “hey girls want some booze, come over to my party” for older classier age. It’s implied that if she agrees you’ll be making a move at some point. And yes, women who accept the drink and then act surprised or even offended that you think you “bought” her are either classless or bitches. Unfortunately, that’s the majority so yeah, you better off with Hi or whatever opener of the day you got.
    Also, in some bars it’s very common for regulars to buy each other drinks/shots. Nothing wrong with that.
    But last type, when she asks “will you buy me a drink” is just weird. Honestly even in my betaest days I’d automatically go with something cocky and definitely question it. I rarely get such requests and I do go out and chat them up and score so it’s not that I’m that unattractive. I think you guys give that coont too much credit, it’s just some vapor content for her lame ass blog.

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  46. on February 25, 2011 at 5:19 pm j r

    What’s really funny about this article is that nowhere in these fourteen suggestions is there anything about being a decent human being, being nice, being interesting, having something worthwhile to offer in return. And the irony is that there are plenty of men who would happily buy a nice girl a drink even if it didn’t get him laid.

    You have to wonder sometime if women are constitutionally incapable of understanding cause and effect.

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  47. on February 25, 2011 at 5:21 pm Erik

    @ j r

    “And the irony is that there are plenty of men who would happily buy a nice girl a drink even if it didn’t get him laid.”

    You’re right. There are plenty of them, and they are called betas.

    I may not be an alpha yet, but even I know not to buy girls drinks.

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  48. on February 25, 2011 at 5:21 pm Gmac

    “And the irony is that there are plenty of [PUSSY-DEPRIVED BETAS] who would happily buy a nice girl a drink even if it didn’t get him laid.”

    Fixed.

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  49. on February 25, 2011 at 5:27 pm MrDamage

    I like the response I’ve seen somewhere (probably right here) you find out what she wants to drink, buy it… and drink it while she watches. Great lead in to her outraged response and sets up flirting/teasing opportunities.

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  50. on February 25, 2011 at 5:41 pm j r

    erik and gmac,

    the only point of my comment was to point out that nice guys are disappearing because of women’s own behavior, but i am glad that i gave you guys a chance to attest on the internet as to how alpha and cool you are.

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  51. on February 25, 2011 at 5:42 pm Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

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  52. on February 25, 2011 at 5:46 pm comradescott

    Hitman beat me to it.

    Blowjob=drink
    Anal=dinner

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  53. on February 25, 2011 at 5:50 pm Gmac

    “the only point of my comment was to point out that nice guys are disappearing because of women’s own behavior, but i am glad that i gave you guys a chance to attest on the internet as to how alpha and cool you are.”

    When you’re as alpha and cool as we are you dominate everywhere, even the internet. – Alpha 101

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  54. on February 25, 2011 at 6:06 pm chi-town

    Ask her what she is drinking. She says “a Shirley Temple”. Then tell the bar tender “one Shirley Temple please”. Take it and have a drink. of it; and then and say:

    “You’re right, that is good”
    Make a face and mutter “well, it was free advice”
    “I don’t really like anything that cat pissy”.

    Ordered by potency. Situation and delivery all important of course which could be mean or playful.

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  55. on February 25, 2011 at 6:11 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

    http://blogs.wsj.com/ideas-market/2011/02/23/note-to-angry-guys-drop-the-darth-vader-decor/tab/comments/#comment-2778

    some good ocmmenets slozzllzolzlzlzlzlzolz

    “darth vader wrote:
    i think that kay is driven by the greater truth.

    most liberal neocon women have no conscience, but after 50,000,000+ abortions and millions of wrecked homes and abused children growing up in single parent homes, and as the sum total of debt exedes the GNP, even kay hymowitz starts to wonder.

    of course she blames it all on men, and not the central bankers’ fetus-killing/marriage-destorying/homer/home wrecking/debt-growing/state-growing feminist movement, but the very fact that she notices that something is off kilter quite astounding.

    it fills my heart with hope! 50,000,000 more aborted fetuses and kay might begin to realize that it is 100% a woman’s choice.”

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  56. on February 25, 2011 at 6:13 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

    hey rooisssy hows comes kay hymenclitstits gets book deals and you don’t? your book with outsellf her a milion to one!!!
    hey rooisssy hows comes kay hymenclitstits gets book deals and you don’t? your book with outsellf her a milion to one!!!hey rooisssy hows comes kay hymenclitstits gets book deals and you don’t? your book with outsellf her a milion to one!!!hey rooisssy hows comes kay hymenclitstits gets book deals and you don’t? your book with outsellf her a milion to one!!!

    oh wait i know.

    the neoocn spublishers are more inetrested in incerasing debt nsd debauchery thatn than making money and art zlzllzlzlozlzz na dlitertuarean d poety lzozlzlzlozzlo

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  57. on February 25, 2011 at 6:15 pm Bhetti

    No, literally, they will sparkle. It’s weird.

    The title for CR’s new book:
    Dusk.

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  58. on February 25, 2011 at 6:19 pm askjoe

    Who do these girls think they are, expecting other people to pay for their shit, public sector union thugs?

    I knew a girl who made it a challenge to get drinks. She’d go out without any money.

    The thing is is if a girl likes you, she’ll buy you drinks.

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  59. on February 25, 2011 at 6:32 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

    ^^^^ lozlzlzlozzzzozl

    aging new york feminist neoocn women authors reminds me all those girls who hit thirty and go “why is my anuth sore? Where are all teh good men? what is that slaty tatse in my mouth? why ar etehir warts on my gina regainaon? why am i still single?”

    they never undertsnad that the sore anuth is fromm the lotsa cocka in da butthole, and dat the aslty tatste taint is form da lotsa cockas in itheir mouths and that the warts in their gina region sare form al d arandom lotsa cockas of da cock acarousslel except form mine because i wrap it in foil before checinking her oil lzozlzlzzlzozlzozz like i put it in a rubber raincoat before i go swimming in her moat. the reason tehy are still single is that the smeel of lotsa cocka does not sinpire a guy to buy a wring and say “will you amry me now that you have been assocked ine sectriev neocn butthexing seeions and deosusled sodom and shcusteered and benrnankifeid?”

    i wrap it beofre i tap it. Don’t trust Jesus cover your penis. If you think she’s spunky, cover your monkey.

    to keep the banker fmeiniste fiat police state away form your bank money accounts, like GBFM, you should always House your noodle then release your strudel.

    1) Cover your stump before you hump
    3) Don’t be silly, protect your Willie
    4) When in doubt shroud you spout
    5) Don’t be a loner, cover your boner
    6) You can’t go wrong, if you shield your dong
    7) If your not going to sack it, go home and whack it
    8) If you think she’s spunky, cover your monkey
    9) It will be sweeter if you wrap your peter
    10) If you slip between her thighs, condomize
    11) She won’t get sick if you wrap your dick
    12) If you go into heat, package your meat
    13) While your undressing Venus, dress up your penis
    14) When you take off her pants and blouse, suit up your mouse
    15) Especially in December, gift wrap your member
    16) Never ever deck her, with an unwrapped pecker
    17) Don’t be a fool, vulcanize your tool
    18) The right selection, is to protect your erection
    19) Wrap it in foil, before you check her oil
    20) A crank with armor, will never harm her
    21) If you really love her, wear a cover
    22) Don’t make a mistake, cover your snake
    23) Sex is cleaner with a packaged wiener
    24) If you can’t shield your rocket, leave it in your pocket
    25) No glove, no love
    26) If you think she’ll sigh, cover old one eye
    27) Even If she’s eager, protect her beaver
    28) No one likes a horses ass, protect yourself at climax
    29) Shield her from the hunt until you shoot her in the cunt
    30) Avoid a frown, contain your clown
    31) Harness the pygmy man before entering the bearded clam
    32) Constrain the little head before you stick it in the shed
    33) Put a condom on your dink before you dart it in her sink
    34) The weasel you must surround before you please her on the ground
    35) Cloak the joker before you poke her
    36) Encase that torch before you paint her porch
    37) Cape your throbber before you bob her
    38) After detection sheath your erection
    39) Before you penetrate hide your magistrate
    40) Don’t surprise her plug your Geyser
    41) Cover that lumber before you pump her
    42) Protect her wrinkle before you sprinkle
    43) She won’t bristle if you wrap your whistle
    44) House your noodle then release your strudel
    45) Put your dog in the pound and make her yelp like a hound
    46) Shelter your jerky then nab that turkey
    47) Cage that snake then shake and bake
    48) Cover your peter it will be much neater
    49) Coat that Labrador then allow him to explore
    50) It’s always funky to cage your monkey
    51) It won’t be funny with a coatless dummy
    52) It won’t be fun with an unwrapped thumb
    53) It’s not much money to catch your honey
    54) Don’t be a fool cover your tool
    55) Hood that match then scratch that thatch
    56) Stitch that switch then itch her niche
    57) Wrap that tool to catch the drool
    58) It ain’t no jibe to protect her hive
    59) Contain that sputum before you use him
    60) Restrain your log then plow her bog
    61) Glove your pecker before you check her
    62) Coat that slimmer before you prime her
    63) Condomize then womanize (or sodomize)
    64) Cover old pete then grind her meat
    65) Guard your peter before you meet her
    66) Check your list before you tryst
    67) Wrap your bate before you mate
    68) Can your worm before you squirm
    69) Cover your pipe you dumb ass wipe
    70) Contain your lizard then tickle her gizzard
    71) Bag the mole then do her hole
    72) Cuff your carrot before you share it
    73) Jail your number then call the plumber
    74) Cover your vein then drive her insane
    75) Wrap that pickle then slip her a tickle
    76) Protect your dink then fluff her mink
    77) Restrain your lantern then stick it in her cavern
    78) Hide ole harry then take her cherry
    79) Wrap that spout then bore her out
    80) Conceal your train don’t cause her pain
    81) Guard your bridge then do her ridge
    82) Shroud your trout then make her shout
    83) To make her squat like a turkey, cover your Jerky
    84) Box your blister then poke her in the whiskers
    85) Wrap your spout to catch the trout
    86) Plug your funnel then enter the tunnel
    87) Cover your steamer before you ream her
    88) Protect that fish then dip it in the dish
    89) Contain that bass for a swim in her glass
    90) Be sure to wear it to feed her ferret
    91) Clothe the boner before you hone her
    92) Got no protection? Can’t use your erection!
    93) Cork your pump or you don’t hump
    94) No unwrapped stags get between my legs
    95) Dress that erection to make a deflection
    96) Contain that shanker before you spank her
    97) Cap that seeder before you breed her
    98) Stop the stream before you cream
    99) Secure that ladder then drain your bladder
    100) Protect your screw to catch that glue
    101) Package your meat for a real neat treat
    102) Holster your gun then shootings more fun
    103) Canvas that trailer before you nail her
    104) Garage the tractor then attack her
    105) Net that grass hopper before you pop her
    106) Sock that wanger before you bang her
    107) Pen that rooster, she’ll be much looser
    108) Trim your hardwood then do her real good
    109) Garnish your oak then give her a poke
    110) Pouch your associate then go fornicate
    111) Smother your affiliate before you ejaculate
    112) Confine your fascinate before it regurgitates
    113) Catch that goat before it bloats
    114) Ensnare that barbarian then do her abdomen
    115) Restrain your hammer then wam bam her

    116) Prune that stalk then make her squawk
    117) Wrap that rod then please her bod
    118) Sheath that knife she ain’t your wife
    119) House that bottle then mash her throttle
    120) Sash that hash then thrash that gash
    121) Cover your diddle then fiddle her middle
    122) Can your knob then throb her swab
    123) Contain old Doug then clean her rug
    124) Cover your limb before you swim
    125) Retain your bailer then impail her
    126) Rope your dope then make some soap
    127) Net your salamander then make salad in her
    128) Cap your flapper then sniff her snapper
    129) Wrap that Steed then trample her weeds
    130) Hat that chef then scramble her cleft
    131) Cover your stone before you bone
    132) House your hose then curl her toes
    133) Saddle your penis then straddle her mean ass
    134) Blanket your twitch then hump that bitch
    135) Shield your rocks then pond her box
    136) Cover old sly then do her dry
    137) Wrap your rail then fill her pail
    138) Glove your chimney before you come in me
    139) If your nude tube your dude
    140) Cloak your hitter then go split her
    141) Wrap your nipper before you dip her
    142) Can your spam then bam that mam
    143) Corral your ram then slice her ham
    144) Sheath your sliver then jab her liver
    145) Twist your wick then stick that prick
    146) Cover old Bart then dart her tart
    147) Shed old spot then do her slot
    148) Drawer your pip then split her lips
    149) Contain that leach then mash her peach
    150) Bag your elm then take the helm
    151) Constrain your gem to catch the flem
    152) Catch that head cheese or I won’t spread these
    153) Constrain that agate you ain’t no faggot
    154) Survey your land then plant her stand
    155) Before you drive her protect that diver
    156) Sack that slimy smelt then tan her beaver pelt
    157) Wrap that stiffer then let him sniff her
    158) Cover you post then slice her roast
    159) Blanket old juicy then plug old loosey
    160) Balloon your baboon the moon tune her poon
    161) Contain that viper before you pipe her
    162) Wrap your whopper, then go bop her
    163) Protect your cock with the sock.
    164) Slip it on before you slip it in.
    165) Don’t leave it to God, cover your rod.
    164) Do a good deed, don’t spill your seed.
    165) Tub that sub then rub her hub
    166) Wrap Mr. Clean then introduce her spleen
    167) Dam your giver then fill her quiver
    167) Wrap your wang before you bang
    168) instead of your dick use a stick
    169) instead of a sticky make a quickie
    170) jack that slacker then you can whack her
    171) Wrap it before you tap it
    172) Wrap your meat before you beat
    173) Don’t excrete, wrap your meat
    174) If you take her to bed, protect your head
    175) Pack it in plastic, it’ll be fantastic
    176) if you’r not Shaq O’neal you might as well wrap your real
    177) You Cover before you shove her
    178) Protect your meat before you cram it in her seat
    179) Suit up your eel, before you make a deal
    180) Cover your fluid-ray or you’ll have to pay
    181) Don’t be a fool, wrap your tool
    182) if you think shes spunky, cover your monkey!
    183) Wrap it before you slap it
    184) Conceal your mushroom shape before you part her beef drapes
    185) Don’t be uncertain protect yourself before entering her meat curtain
    186) Cover your rock-o before sour creaming her taco
    187) use a shield before you sew her field
    188) Put on your hat before you give her a splat
    189) cover your snitch before you ram the bitch
    190) hide old nick, before you jab her ribs
    191) Flag your pole
    192) Before a late night wrap it up tight
    193) don’t have sex without latex
    194) Cover Billy then make her silly
    195) wear a helmet to go to war
    196) wrap the cock let it drop
    197) cover your meat and make some heat
    198) wrap your stump before you hump
    199) Cover your shooter, then shoot in her pooter
    200) Garnish your beef, then dive her reef
    201) Shield your funnel and engage her tunnel
    202) Cover your mound, and prepare to pound
    203) Sheath your blade, then give her the spade
    204) Wrap your shaft before you break her in half
    205) Roll your oat, then paddle her boat
    206) Cover your yam then pound her ham
    207) Armour the tank before you enter the flank
    208) sWrap the goat before swimming in her moat
    209) Leash your pet before launching your jet
    210) Baton down the hatch before feeding her snatch
    211) Chain the beast before presenting the feast
    212) Before you tap it, wrap it
    213) Cap your tinkle before you visit the fish wrinkle
    214) Save her cunt, from shit loads of spunk!
    215) Wrap your dill before you spill
    216) Dont be a Fool, wrap your tool
    217) Wrap that gator, no regrets later
    218) Wrap your meat and get her in the sheets!
    219) Don’t forget the diaper when you’re laying piper
    220) when you nail her accsessorize your sailor
    221) Put on a rubber before you sub her
    222) Don’t trust Jesus cover your penis
    223) Dress him up before you mess her up
    224) Holster your Pistol before you whip her
    225) before you bang cover your wang
    226) No matter what kind of meat you put in your sandwich you still have to wrap up your hoggie
    227) Put a cover on yer hammer then ram her and ram her
    228) Clothe the boner before you own her
    229) Before you make a disaster put the saftey on your blaster
    230) protect ur pole before u battle with the hole
    231) No shirt, no flirt!
    232) Wrap it before you tap it

    http://www.condomslogans.com/ lozzlzlolzozolzlzozo

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  60. on February 25, 2011 at 6:43 pm Me

    You should never spend money when it isn’t a sure thing. Buying a woman drinks is not a sure thing. If you aren’t paying directly for direct sexual favors, you shouldn’t spend any money.

    And yes, married chumps, buying her a necklace and receiving a blowjob in return is paying for sex, you hypocritical losers.

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  61. on February 25, 2011 at 6:46 pm anonymouses anonymous

    I do not buy drinks for women, except in one case. My wing was working a two set. One claimed it was her birthday and if he wanted to talk to them, he’d have to buy drinks.

    I stepped in and offered to buy her a drink, but she had. To come to the bar with me since she didn’t look 21. She tried to show me her I’d, but I told her I was not able to tell the difference between real and fake IDs, but the bartender can.

    So, she followed me, leaving my wing with his target. On the way to the bar, I made her promise that she had to drink what I bought.

    For $5, I got her a shot of Everclear.

    It was worth $5 to see the look on her face when she downed it…she was used to tequila shots, but not straight grain alcohol.. In 5 minutes, she was near comatose.

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  62. on February 25, 2011 at 6:57 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

    lozzozozozl

    210) Baton down the hatch before feeding her snatch
    211) Chain the beast before presenting the feast
    215) Wrap your dill before you spill
    216) Dont be a Fool, wrap your tool
    217) Wrap that gator, no regrets later

    lzozozlzozozo

    next tome you band a chcik use one of tehes elinee lines!!!!

    hey hun gotta Baton down the hatch before feeding yer snatch

    lemmee conceal my mushroom shape before parting yourbeef drapes

    zlozzozolzlzl

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  63. on February 25, 2011 at 7:49 pm askjoe

    good God, gozzle knows his condom jokes.

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  64. on February 25, 2011 at 7:55 pm venusinfurs

    This is not good advice. You should worship the woman not only by buying her the drink, but by kneeling down and kissing her foot. I want her to put her heel on my throat, I want to smell her shoe while she dingles my thing with her foot. I want to buy her $800 in clothes and expensive chocolates and then lick her ass in the shower.

    Worship the Woman!

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  65. on February 25, 2011 at 7:55 pm Sir_Chancealot

    I have gotten the “Buy me a drink?” line quite a few times. My response is ALWAYS “I do not buy women drinks. You can buy ME one though” (delivered straight, with a nice grin.) It’s worked every single time.

    And if a woman ever asks you for a favor in a bar, make sure you charge her a drink. ALWAYS.

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  66. on February 25, 2011 at 7:58 pm Lupo Leboucher

    I read “surely you’re Joking Mr. Feynman” before I was legally entitled to purchase alcoholic beverages, and so I saved myself tons of money over the years. It was true in the 1940s and it’s true today: never buy a woman a drink.
    Fun story about entitlement princesses in bars: I caught one stealing a bartender’s tip I left on the bar. No happy ending here; I wouldn’t stick my dick in a scumbag who feels entitled to steal some bartender’s two bucks, but it’s illustrative of how loathsome and extreme some of these women are. She couldn’t believe she was called on this; “like, it’s only $2.”

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  67. on February 25, 2011 at 7:59 pm Heydrich

    The only two approaches to buying a drink for a woman are:

    – As another poster said, “You buy the first, I’ll buy the next two”.
    – Getting something *you’d* like, or something really strong and harsh (“Wild Turkey sandwich, hold the bread barkeep”, grain).

    Either way, it quickly flushes out the demanding bitches, and if the girl buys the first round or slams some serious booze, you are in like Flynn- and ready for a night of boozy screwing.

    Which is the whole purpose of picking up a woman in a bar.
    “Ms. Right”- anywhere *but* a bar.
    “Ms. Right Now”- cheers!

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  68. on February 25, 2011 at 8:02 pm ritmo rioplatense

    As a hustler myself, I can’t fault girls for learning to leverage this stuff to their advantage. Hustle respects hustle, and all that shit.

    Don’t hate the player
    Don’t hate the game
    Just become a purveyor
    Of more of the same

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  69. on February 25, 2011 at 8:37 pm Knuold

    “Fear is the path to the beta side. Fear leads to sycophancy. Sycophancy leads to abasement. Abasement leads to grinding dry spells.”

    This applies to every facet of human interaction by the way.

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  70. on February 25, 2011 at 8:39 pm collegeslacker

    @Sir_Chancealot

    Solid advice. It’s always nice when shes cool enough to buy you drinks, it makes the night cheaper and your chance of boning greater. For college girls, I recommend my go to:

    “Do I look like an ATM?” said while flashing a smirk, taking a drink right afterwards. Knocks them right off their pedestal while building instant intrigue, and we all know intrigue=tingles. Any girl 6+ can and will throw the buy a drink shit test in college, cheap amoral bitches.

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  71. on February 25, 2011 at 9:10 pm SV Warrior

    I had a simple way of handling this (back in the day). I would always ask “What’s in it for me if I buy you a drink?”

    Usually they would say, “sparkling conversation” or some other lame response. Forgive me but it was the 70’s.

    I would usually shoot back, “That isn’t enough.” Then I would smile and turn my attention elsewhere. The bouncer in one bar who was also a good friend would look at me like I was crazy until later on when I often left with the same girl.

    I didn’t understand it at the time but you hit it right. I had passed their shit test. I was doing it by instinct. They key was never to be nasty about it.

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  72. on February 25, 2011 at 9:22 pm itsme

    @jr
    What’s really funny about this article is that nowhere in these fourteen suggestions is there anything about being a decent human being, being nice, being interesting, having something worthwhile to offer in return.

    because the article was about getting free drinks from guys as easily and effortlessly as possible. so why would these women make the effort to be decent, nice, and interesting when they could simply say a few simple words to some beta schlubs and be drowning in alcohol?

    You have to wonder sometime if women are constitutionally incapable of understanding cause and effect.

    they’re capable of understanding it, just not in the same way guys do. we guys observe and use logic to understand cause and effect. the mechanism women use is the rationalization hamster.

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  73. on February 25, 2011 at 9:29 pm old guy

    “vodka sprite”

    ew

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  74. on February 25, 2011 at 9:31 pm A.B. Dada

    I bought my first random gal a drink at my local old man bar 2 weeks ago. I didn’t feel beta at all…

    I was standing at the bar, talking to some dude to my right about politics when I caught a cute colleged-aged gal to my left look at me. I smiled, she smiled back. I turned back to the guy and talked another ten minutes or so.

    He goes to the men’s room, so I flag down the bartendress to order my own drink, and Theta Phi asks me what I meant about something I said to old dude. She was listening.

    We spoke for maybe two minutes, she’s smiling and locking eyes. Bartendress comes down and asks for my order. I ask the 7 (6.5 tequila?) if she wants a drink, and she says yes. Rum & diet.

    The bartendress, knowing my style, literally screams “Dada’s buying a lady a round? Did hell freeze over?”

    Theta Phi looks dumbstruck. “You don’t normally buy drinks?” Me: “Not for ladies I don’t know. Grab a seat.”

    We drink, talk for a max of 5 minutes, and I tell her I want to get back to George Washington but I want her number. Easy as can be. I turned my back to her and finished my chat with the retiree for a half hour.

    Bartendress ended up picking up that round. I secured a hangout at my place a week later.

    There can be exceptions.

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  75. on February 25, 2011 at 9:33 pm epiclolz

    The best thing i’ve ever seen in real life was a guy ordering a drink for a girl at the end of the bar, the drink was a water. That’s almost like a hydrogen bomb apocalypse move.

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  76. on February 25, 2011 at 9:38 pm Ben Runkle

    It always makes me sad when girls ask me for drinks because it causes an immediate loss of respect for them from me. If I feel like playing ball though, mmy response is always: “I’ll tell you what, you get this round and I’ll get the next one” usually, the girls who wind up agreeing to that turn out to be pretty cool

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  77. on February 25, 2011 at 10:35 pm Nicole

    “(Ugly girls have to buy men drinks to get any attention.)”

    No we don’t. Guys think we’re easy, so the first thing they do is offer us drinks because one dumb ugly girl in his past who already wanted to shag him coincidentally did it after he got her drunk.

    So the advice for ugly girls is that if you want some friendly company for awhile, let a guy think he’s paying for your drinks all night, but quietly instruct the bartender or waitress to bring you a separate bill. Then excuse yourself and go home with your dignity.

    After that, the guy is either chastened, or thinks he’s in love.

    When you’re not hot, you have to have character to compete.

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  79. on February 25, 2011 at 10:50 pm Marshy

    Don’t make it complicated.

    Just smile and tousel her hair like she’s your niece (you crazy kids!) and go back to what you’re doing.

    Not. one. word.

    In that instant she’ll decide to either leave you alone or that she wants your jock. This helps filter out all but the most likely candidates.

    If she tries to get a conversation going at that point, answer with head nods/shakes or the shoulder shrug (the “i dunno” motion) for the first few moments.

    Give her so little that a word from your mouth is a hard earned treasure. Once she’s started playing nice she graduates from “furniture” to “some chick” and you can begin your teasing/qualifying/comfort building/venue changing/foreplay/fucking/tying her to the bed and leaving for a sammich

    This article is more evidence for why day game should be everyone’s bread and butter. Nights out are for extra credit but that’s just my opinion.

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  80. on February 25, 2011 at 11:01 pm Good Luck Chuck

    Never buy a woman a drink when she asks for it or insinuates. The exception would be if you have a way to grab frame, such as getting her to buy the first one, or as AB Dada outlined above.

    The only other time it is ok to buy a chick or chicks drinks would be when you are playing status game and buying drinks for the group. I know this topic is taboo around here, but the reality is that TRUE alphas are leaders of social groups, and a $40 round of drinks or even a $200 bottle from time to time is a wise investment. The only caveat to this is that you have to have some other things in place (like owning a well known business, even if it doesn’t make much money). This is a discussion for another blog though.

    Another thing to note is that if a woman is buying you drinks (or anything for that matter) chances are pretty good that she is sexually attracted to you. I can’t ever remember a woman buying something for me if we weren’t already having sex or didn’t eventually become sexually involved.

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  81. on February 25, 2011 at 11:04 pm Omega Dork

    Huh, no girl has ever asked me to buy her a drink. I can almost bet I would have done so just to have her talk to me — in fact, I would have been thrilled.

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  82. on February 25, 2011 at 11:12 pm psycho

    Nerd Talk: “Oh, Oh, I know! If she says this than you say this is response.”

    And some of you f’kers need to take a break from posting in the comments. Go get a hobbie that doesn’t involve the Internet.

    There is only one response to any possible scenario in which a women that isn’t sucking your dk on command asks you for ANYTHING:

    “No.”

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  83. on February 25, 2011 at 11:28 pm el chief

    roissy’s second favourite politician, being a jackass

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  84. on February 25, 2011 at 11:34 pm Anonymous

    Q: “Buy me a drink?”
    A: “Swallow.”

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  85. on February 25, 2011 at 11:57 pm old guy

    Yeah, buy her a drink, W. L. Weller 107 over a coupla cubes. If she gets through it without coughing or whatever, she passes MY test.

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  86. on February 26, 2011 at 12:08 am Max

    Link yanked.

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  87. on February 26, 2011 at 12:42 am Rum

    Home early. Sleep or die. My Financial Services Chick/sex-pardner-in-crime had certain Obligations tonight and so she called to bail … I mean, she is Orthodox… in her own way.
    I had a good conversation recently with someone who has excellent connections with the families that really matter in the Middle East. He is a smart guy. Ethnically a Euro but embedded in the top levels of the self respecting Sunni-Arab-Egyptian elite. GW Bush still calls him on his cell phone. From time to time.
    Anyway, his points are sometimes muddeled from drink but I pay close attention nonetheless.

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  88. on February 26, 2011 at 12:59 am rast

    How about this facebook shit test?

    pink = chick
    blue = her bf
    green = bf’s brother

    http://img694.imageshack.us/i/shittest.png/

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  89. on February 26, 2011 at 1:07 am Mr. X

    You shouldn’t buy a drink for a girl because it shows you’re beta, and that will lead to no carnal fulfillment. The essence of the beta’s powerlessness is his inability to incite a woman’s desire, and the essence of an alpha’s power is his ability to incite etc. Therefore, the power which women are so susceptible to, which alpha men display, finds its ultimate use only in the context of women. An alpha male only attains the power which makes him alpha when a woman shows signs of responding to this power.

    The point of the power lies in getting laid, and is thus in the best interest of the man. But the point of the power also lies in the woman’s self-interest, because she wants to have her own sexual desires incited. Though she will be surprised when her shit-tests fail, she is administering them with the unconscious intent of surprising her deliberately deluded conscious mind, which surprise will then incite her desire.

    As a result, alpha males who surprise shit-testing women are playing into the woman’s interests just as much as beta men who buy the women drinks. The only difference is that alpha-ness is the path that leads to carnal fulfillment, for both parties. But a man cannot simply act alpha with the intent of getting laid, with the idea that it is only self-interest which motivates him, if he must rely on a woman’s self-interest in order for his alpha-ness to exist. Every alpha act is performed to please women, which seems to run parallel to the beta ideology behind buying women drinks.

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  90. on February 26, 2011 at 2:03 am askjoe

    acutally, this just reminded me of the time I tried to bum a smoke from a chick and she’s like, not until I know you better.

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  91. on February 26, 2011 at 2:36 am Good Luck Chuck

    On a side note…..

    There is one bottle of liquor that every single man should have at his place- Absinthe. It’s the perfect player prop.

    I have a bottle that an ex fuck buddy brought me from Slovakia, and I also have a bottle of the REAL deal that I tracked down when I was in Prague several years ago. The one with 3x the thujone content.

    It starts out as an excellent conversation topic that allows you to demonstrate value by talking about how you picked it up during your worldly travels. Later you can use it as an excuse to get her back to your place.

    Once she’s at your pad you can play up the story of how it contains “hallucinogenic” properties. “You sure you’re down for this babe? Makes some people a little craaaazay!” It’s amazing how little the rationalization hamster needs to justify casual sex. Two shots the green fairy and she’ll relish every second of the transcendental sexual experience and thank you profusely for allowing her to participate.

    The quasi-illegality of it adds to the mystique.

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  92. on February 26, 2011 at 4:06 am lol

    Good luck Chick: There is one bottle of liquor that every single man should have at his place- Absinthe. It’s the perfect player prop.

    lmao. Yep, it’s the bottle of liquor that will get you laid.

    Beta.

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  93. on February 26, 2011 at 4:16 am azuzuru

    They definitely can get a drink from this guy: http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/20110225/us_yblog_thelookout/ohio-man-runs-a-commercial-propose-to-his-girlfriend

    Poor dude produced and bought airtime for a TV commercial to propose to his girlfriend, then dropped down to one knee in front of cameras.

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  94. on February 26, 2011 at 5:35 am Rob

    Absinthe is illegal?

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  95. on February 26, 2011 at 5:46 am Bruno

    Roissy, here is what I usually do:

    Girl: why don’t you buy me a drink?

    Me: Sure! (call the bartender, whom I know)

    Let him give her, unannounced, a fine glass of tap water. Not cold.

    The way they stare at me is just delicious.

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  96. on February 26, 2011 at 7:53 am Derp

    here is another tutorial for gurlz

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  97. on February 26, 2011 at 8:32 am what

    Actually, I don’t have much to say about this topic. I don’t drink, so how about some sort of juice or soda? hehe!! Would someone buy me that? lol!!! I can’t see having a guy buy you a drink is such a great thing. I would feel like I owe them something and I DON’T want to owe any stranger anything. I guess I’ll buy him one back, just to make it even. How’s that? hehehe!! Next post pleeeease!!

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  98. on February 26, 2011 at 9:14 am Frauen, Getränkeschnorrerei und Flirtverhalten « Alles Evolution

    […] Bei Roissy findet sich eine Besprechung eines Artikels, in dem es darum geht, wie man als Frau am besten Getränke umsonst bekommt. […]

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  99. on February 26, 2011 at 10:11 am dragnet

    I’d like to chime in with a point that could very well get me banned from this site: a blanket prohibition on buying women drinks is NOT a good rule of thumb for the Game. And here’s why…

    Is buying drinks a beta gesture? Yes—without question. However, doling out a bit of beta from a position of strength is often a sound strategy. If you have established too much value—are too alpha—then a beta move like this may be just it takes to bump up on your comfort game to the level to where is should be for the seduction to proceed. Remember the formula:

    alpha (attraction) + beta (comfort) = sex

    You need alpha & beta to fuck…it’s just that you need a lot less beta than most people think. But you still need some.

    The obvious corollary here is that if you’ve established too much alpha, you have jeopardized the lay and that a beta move is essential.

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  100. on February 26, 2011 at 10:45 am Lara

    Good point dragnet. An more alpha guy can easily get away with buying a girl a drink and it won’t diminish her attraction for him at all. In fact, you’re right that it could make her like him more. If he isn’t willing to do anything for you he must not really like you and he is a waste of your time. There are plenty of aloof men out there that I have never felt any attraction to.

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  101. on February 26, 2011 at 10:46 am Lara

    As you said, it all comes down to whether you are operating from a position of strength or weakness.

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  102. on February 26, 2011 at 10:49 am Lara

    It is actually fairly easy to ignore an alpha if he doesn’t pay any attention to you. It is when he pays a little attention or does one nice thing for you that you start to like him.

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  103. on February 26, 2011 at 10:49 am The LP 999

    Great piece.

    I am in one of those killjoy moods…gotta laugh at me. Having the default answer of NEIN does not make a man a cheapskate.

    No one should take a woman’s advice but mine would be something like, ‘your drinking is ruining your reproductive organs for child bearing’.

    Speaking of boozers, what the hell is wrong with NBC constantly featuring happy hour at 11 am with Hoda and Kathy? I know as I am forced to watch this slop (a news show of emo non-news sh-t) via a waiting room tv.

    Effing disgusting parading drinking like its so damn great.

    Her Campus is a such a young girls creation. Nauseatingly cute but uncool to me. Mentioning Wake Forest is an embarrassment to the nice place it once was to live. The blog does sound like a regular carosel rider complete with alkie’s and drugs. How hot.

    As for fearing chicks I am surprised the writer did not link to Vox Day’s recent posts on the matter. Hint!

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  104. on February 26, 2011 at 11:07 am A.B. Dada

    Dragnet:

    I had a gal I was seeing say I was too alpha recently. I locked eyes stronger, stayed silent for a few moments, and said “don’t ever call me that again. I’m a man, and that’s what I am.”

    That “relationship” was faded immediately after that. Someone tried to turn the tables. If she was better than a 6, I’d have moved to dangle the carrot, but what’s the point of letting a 6 feel like she can be chased? Time wasted, off to another.

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  105. on February 26, 2011 at 11:25 am sofia

    the most fucked up consideration is how much of an alcohol-fiend you have to be to flirt with guys all night to get it for free. is this woman hanging out with friends or is she alone? that’s the lamest night out idea i’ve ever heard.

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  106. on February 26, 2011 at 12:13 pm Maximus Rex

    In their never ending quest to eat, drink, and get an evening out on the town on your dime, sometimes a woman will ask you this annoying, yet ballsy question. Here are some replies to, Will You Buy Me A Drink? Feel free to add your own.

    Chick: Will you get me a drink?
    Rex: Sure. What do you want?
    Chick: Pardon.
    Rex: Bartender. Get the Lady a Pardon, and I’ll have some Louis XIII.
    After the drink is ordered. Apply the “cell phone rule.”

    Chick: Can you get me a drink?
    Rex: OK. Bartender. Get the lady a MacCallen 25 yr old. I’ll have a water. Bartender gets the drinks and waits to be paid.
    Bartender:Who”s paying for this?
    Rex: She is. Chick is surprised and astonshied.
    Chick: But you said you would get me a drink!!!
    Rex: I did GET you a drink. You didn’t say anything about me paying for it.

    Chick: Can you buy me a drink?
    Rex: Can you give me some head? A kiss, a feel, a flash, a head job, some sex, a menage a trois would here too.

    This is a play on something I heard from the Tom Leykis Show.

    Chick: Rex, your funny by me a drink.
    Rex: My place isn’t clean.
    Chick: Huh???
    Rex: See dear. I only buy drinks for two types of women. One’s I came into the spot with, and ones I’m leaving the spot with. were. You can’t
    come over because my place isn’t clean.

    Chick:Will you get me a drink?
    Rex: Yes. Order the drink and rejoin your pals or move on to something else.

    Chick: Can you get me a drink.
    Rex: Bartender, get the lady a water.

    Chick: Will you buy me a drink?
    Rex: How about you get this round and I get the next.

    Chick: Buy me a drink?
    Rex: No.

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  107. on February 26, 2011 at 12:57 pm BNomics

    I’m in college. Me and the squad went out with a group of girls, one of which my friend was courting(putting in work with no ass to see from it). We paired up and all the guys got asked for drinks by their girls.

    My exchange was:

    Her:”I want a drink”
    Me:”Go for it”
    Her:”But I don’t want to pay for it”
    Me:”That’s too bad”

    The rest of the squad bought drinks for them.Disgusting shit, like well 4 Horsemen and the Tabasco-Vodka shot.

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  108. on February 26, 2011 at 2:39 pm wesker

    One I’ve used with some success is to basically reverse the script.

    “The next one is on me but I’ll have a….”

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  109. on February 26, 2011 at 2:57 pm askjoe

    The web is abuzz with the impending doom caused by female hypergamy. It’s a bit odd to have NRO comment on PUAs.

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  110. on February 26, 2011 at 3:35 pm Doug1

    Ambiance

    When I get a girl asking me for a drink from me at the bar, my usual response is “Tell ya what, get the first round and I’ll get the next two”.

    It’s better if you just finish with “and I’ll get the next one”.

    Better yet would be to do some cocky teasing first. Like “Oh you think you’re hot enough to deserve a drink from me do you? Tell you what, you get the first round and you’re kinda fun to talk to, I’ll get the next one.” Only a guy with abundant ability to get pussy would normally says something like that to a cute girl, esp. if she’s a hot 7 or higher.

    The hotter and cockier the chick is, the more the subtle neg preface is important. It’s kinda double or nothing with 8s and up, but that’s how you have to play them in bar type settings.

    Your formulation still feels to her like you’re willing to buy her time though not in as abject way as betas who just eagerly say sure, even before you get to know her. The even Steven on rounds suggests she hasn’t won your interest yet but she’s cute enough that you’ll give her a chance. Far more alpha.

    But don’t do any of this with a girl who’s not cute enough for you to maybe want to fuck. You’ll be locked into her for too long and she’s not good enough social proof. Instead say something like you don’t generally buy strangers drinks and move along.

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  111. on February 26, 2011 at 3:44 pm Deeez Nutz

    Spending money on women and getting nothing in return makes no sense.

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  112. on February 26, 2011 at 3:54 pm Doug1

    Gorbachev–

    Was it beta to buy her dinner first?

    Not after an apocalypse opener and her making you buy dinner the condition to her more or less accepting your invitation.

    You’d obviously impressed her with that opening and how you delivered it (that’s essential). Must be dead serious and intense. Staring into her eyes is while you say it, making her look away first.

    Was it beta to sit in awkwardness for 4 hours after getting back to my place?

    Yes. You should have built comfort and DHV while you ate, teased her some, etc. Then when you were fished with food, return to intensity. Back off if need be cause she’s putting up lots of resistence, build more comfort then more sexual intensity of mindset, stroke her arms, her hair. Etc.

    I never, ever let on that I didn’t intend to fuck her.

    Congruent highly sexually attracted alpha. Good.

    Was it beta to almost get a drink thrown in my face?

    Probably alpha. Could be beta body language, or delivery, with alpha words though. Incongruent alpha words can really piss girls off.

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  113. on February 26, 2011 at 3:56 pm Doug1

    Gorb–

    Oh and her saying you had to buy her dinner first was both a way for her to check you out before going through with it, and a message to herself and you that she’s not just totally easy and already totally sold on you. Though she’s definitely got real hopes of being sold or she wouldn’t have responded that way.

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  114. on February 26, 2011 at 4:00 pm Chris Beaver

    Askjoe, links?

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  115. on February 26, 2011 at 4:05 pm jayjay

    If I think a girl is just angling me for a drink, I won’t bite, but I’ve bought quite a few girls drinks and have a pretty decent F-close rate with it. Buying drinks alone is never gonna get you laid but 1) Alcohol makes same-night hookups wayyy more likely and 2) it’s hard to recover if you don’t buy.

    So don’t buy for a girl if she’s w/ a group of cockblocking girlfriends. But if she’s there by herself (rare, but ridiculously easy) or w/ a group of people she met out there and doesn’t have to leave with, then you should have no problem buying drinks for her. The only catch is, only buy tequila shots. I hope you remembered to set up the camcorder in the bedroom before you went out…

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  116. on February 26, 2011 at 4:11 pm Doug1

    Gorbachev

    One guy told me a Real Alpha would get her to buy him dinner, then leave her right after sex.

    He’s wrong. He’s following a rule book and isn’t feeling the situation. Not very alpha.

    In this situation with that response to your apocalypse opener, you had tremendous momentum with that response and your job is to keep it going by quickly agreeing, clasping her hand or waist and taking her immediately out of that function. Then quickly getting a cheap enough takeout dinner, and getting her back to your place.

    Negotiating at the function/party ran the risk of totally blowing your momentum, and telling her she had to buy dinner after she’s hardly talked with you at all and had responded that way to your opener, would raise the ASD on all but the biggest sluts. (Those types my just say fuck it, lets just go to your place.)

    It would be different if you hadn’t done an apocalypse opener, but you’d been successfully teasing and flirting with her, built some comfort, then said to her “lets blow this joint. I know a good cozy spot we can hit.” If she then says, ok but you have to buy me dinner first, then that guy’s response would be right. Say “Ok, but you’re buying. I’ll cover the tip.” Then take her to your takeout place, let her buy, leave them some small tip, and head to your place. In this situation you hadn’t pulled strong “asshole” game yet, so telling he she’s paying does it, and builds attraction lots.

    A sit down restaurant dinner is not a good idea in either situation. Loses momentum big time.

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  117. on February 26, 2011 at 4:12 pm Nicole

    Dragnet, but most guys here are trying to get with *hot* girls, not normal, plain, or ugly women.

    It’s easy to overqualify with a woman who has enough defects and realism to know her place in the hierarchy. I’m not sure there is a point where it’s a good thing to be beta in terms of generosity, with hot women.

    Normal to ugly women within reason, usually have a few guys who want to bone them, but most will only go so far. Hot women have guys embarassing themselves to get next to them all the time.

    So it makes sense to be the one guy who isn’t going to be her puppy.

    If I was a guy, and a girl asked me to buy her a drink, I’d tell her she can have one for free and unzip my pants.

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  118. on February 26, 2011 at 4:18 pm Lara

    jayjay,
    The last time a guy bought me shots I threw up in his car on the ride home.

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  119. on February 26, 2011 at 4:27 pm Doug1

    Chazz–

    The one exception is if I have a girl out on a date I will normally buy 3 or 4 rounds (to loosen those panties) because I mostly date young girls and I am obviously much better off financially.

    I hear you on the latter. But what I do in that situation on a date (which I’ve been in a lot for similar reasons) is to say something like: “You buy us the first round to show me you’re a cool girl, and if you’re fun, I’ll take care of the next several.” Then if you’ve obviously got tons more dosh, just buy the rest of them. It fairly subtly sends the message that she’s got to work to please you, and it also tells her you’re not cheap but not a patsy for cute young girls either.

    But sort of always on subsequent dates make her pay for something, and it’s best if you make her pay first. Do this after you’ve banged her too. She should at least symbolically pay something no matter how much poorer.

    The issue is to be seen to have social control of the situation.

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  120. on February 26, 2011 at 4:30 pm Doug1

    A. Nonny.mous

    It’s also amazing that many men who , amongst guys, are very dominant then turn into whipped little stuttering children around the fairer sex (lol).

    I think most of the time these types of guys can REALLY improve lots by learning game fundamentals. Greater beta to solid alpha kind of thing.

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  121. on February 26, 2011 at 4:31 pm Doug1

    It’s believing post feminist messages about how guys should behave to girls that does that to guys like that of course.

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  122. on February 26, 2011 at 4:37 pm Nicole

    It’s all good so long as y’all remember that the girl paying means, “I’m not your boyfriend.”

    Remember that feminists are hypocrites, and not all women are even feminist. If a guy makes more than me, but is always making me symbolically pay for something, then I know he’s trying to tell me that this is not a relationship.

    I don’t know if it works the same for hot girls, but I’m not sure if looks is what matters in this. It’s how old fashioned she is at the core.

    Many of us make the best of a bad situation, and take what we can get, but a signal is a signal. Even if I really like a guy, if he behaves a certain way, I’m keeping him at a safe distance.

    I think a guy should save the provider thing for when he wants to be the man in the relationship, but bitches today will replace you if you don’t plant a flag. Even I’ve done that…not just over money, but because the overall mood was too hookupish, and the always paying for my own everything was one of the points of data against considering him a factor when other opportunities arose.

    In other words, some of us are really cool about it. Ice cool.

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  123. on February 26, 2011 at 4:38 pm Doug1

    Gorb–

    t DID work on one chick in a hot dress who was sitting alone. I picked her for : 1) reasonably hot, 2) Nobody within 20 feet (total ASD immunity) and 3) seemed not the type, and I was going to try one last time. Actually, she was just one of the last availables.

    And she looked at me like I was a red elephant in a tutu and I still remember her expression, all bemused surprise. After a moment’s alcohol-denied hesitation, home with me she went.

    Didn’t feel Alpha at the time.

    Think about it: YOU are on the line; YOU are asking for sex, essentially; YOU are putting it out. SHE is judging/accepting.

    Actually, seems VERY UN-ALPHA.

    But got seriously laid. So is getting laid like this alpha?

    Well chosen target. Off by herself and probably on the shy side.

    Love the “like a red elephant in a tutu”.

    Yes it was damn alpha. Delivery is key.

    Talking for three or four hours after you two finished the takeout in your place, with lots of awkward moments was the beta part. Could have lost her there.

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  124. on February 26, 2011 at 4:41 pm Doug1

    Nicole–

    Remember that feminists are hypocrites, and not all women are even feminist. If a guy makes more than me, but is always making me symbolically pay for something, then I know he’s trying to tell me that this is not a relationship.

    I don’t know if it works the same for hot girls, but I’m not sure if looks is what matters in this. It’s how old fashioned she is at the core.

    Nope, I do it with girlfriends too. It doesn’t send that message at all. It sends the message that I’ve got options and that she’s that attracted to me. It reinforces that for her. But I only make her symbolically pay something much of the time cause I’ve got lots more bucks.

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  125. on February 26, 2011 at 4:47 pm Nicole

    I’ll put it another way: when I go out with my girl friends, everybody pays for their own. When I go out with my boyfriend, if we’re close enough, whatever I have is going to end up his anyway. He takes the bill when we’re out in a public place because that’s just what a guy does. It’s embarassing and insulting when a woman makes a big deal about paying for hers for a reason, and here’s the reason:

    Even if the guy isn’t making all the money, he should be *in charge of* all the money.

    If the woman is opening her wallet out in public, that’s sending a message to everybody around that the man is not in charge of what she does with her money. She’s independent, read ALONE.

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  126. on February 26, 2011 at 4:48 pm Doug1

    jayjay–

    2) it’s hard to recover if you don’t buy.

    It’s very easy to.

    Try way I suggested in my first comment on this thread. It has a high success rate if you say the worlds with the right bemused confidence. Again:

    “Oh so you think you’re cute enough to deserve a drink from me do you? I’m not that easy. But tell you what, you buy us the first round, and if you’re fun, I’ll get the next one.”

    Say it the right way, be dressed cool, and it works like a charm. If it doesn’t work, time and money saved, cause complying with her request sure as hell wouldn’t have.

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  127. on February 26, 2011 at 4:54 pm Nicole

    Doug, you’re older and tend to keep yours stable in other ways, so it’s different. I’m not saying a dude should jump on her purse like he’s taking a landmine hit when she just needs to buy a pack of gum or she has cash and all you have on you is plastic at the moment.

    What I’m saying is that some guys take it too far. There sort of isn’t a too far with someone one intends to pump and dump, but if someone wants to make a return visit, certain things have to be kept in perspective.

    It’s hard to go from asshole game to scary asshole game if a guy has no basis for a claim.

    Paying for things in some cases, gives the guy the right to get in her business.

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  128. on February 26, 2011 at 5:04 pm Lara

    If a man is with a significantly younger woman, he should pay for everything, he is lucky to even be with her. If a woman is with someone her own age or just a few years older than she should expect to pay for herself or offer to pay about half the time.

    [Editor: You have it backwards. If a man is dating a much younger woman, he has to make an extra effort to *refrain* from paying her way. He has to game even harder. And luck has nothing to do with it. “Lucky” is a beta mentality. She is the one who is lucky to be with him.]

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  129. on February 26, 2011 at 5:05 pm Doug1

    Gorb—

    She wasn’t the kind to fuck like a slutty whore; she was pretty straight-laced, actually. No man had ever been so direct in her life. She was astounded.

    Yuup. Good target.

    That said, I made sure she was well and truly pounded at all times. It was brazenly and openly sexual at all times.

    Always important, but especially so when you got into her panties by playing a huge balls stud persona.

    “All i can say is, well played.”

    No – I might have done better. It FELT very Beta; my approach was wrong in many ways (what little approach you can have); and I picked the wrong targets several times.

    You’ve got to work yourself up into a high energy and sexual confidence and intensity state to pin your odds of success. You do have to chose a target who is at the moment functionally alone so that others are unlikely to hear, and especially her friends aren’t. Fix her eyes with a slightly bemused, highly confidant, intense stare. Then say: “You know something?” What for her what. Pause, staring with slight bemusement but more seriousness. “You look so hot. I want to fuck you. Tonight. Now.”

    And my reaction to a couple was lame.

    The best reaction to being blow out is to simply give a bemused slight smile and say something like “Ok babe.” And walk away. Unless you detect IOIs below the anger, or haughty ASD dismissal.

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  130. on February 26, 2011 at 5:09 pm askjoe

    http://pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/115747/

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  131. on February 26, 2011 at 5:12 pm what

    @ Doug1

    “You know something?” What for her what. Pause, staring with slight bemusement but more seriousness. “You look so hot. I want to fuck you. Tonight. Now.”

    lollollol!!! what movie did you get this from. You are hilarious!!! lol!!! I won’t be able to keep a straight face and would start laughing!!!!

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  132. on February 26, 2011 at 5:12 pm Good Luck Chuck

    Rob

    Absinthe is illegal?

    The kiddie stuff was legalized a couple of years ago but you still have to smuggle in the high grade stuff. Not that anyone cares if you do, but technically, yes, it isn’t legal in the US.

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  133. on February 26, 2011 at 5:13 pm Doug1

    Nicole–

    When I say I make (it’s really more like expect, and she soon offers in the right kind of situations) he pay something symbolically, I don’t mean I split restaurant bills with a much younger and less well off gf, even though not at all poor.

    If it’s an expensive or mid priced restaurant I’ll always pay. It it’s theater or opera or museum tickets of any size I’ll always pay. If it’s a cheap lunch somewhere I’ll signal for her to pay sometimes or often. If we’re having bar champagne at intermission for a show I’ve taken her too, she knows I expect her to get the drinks. If there’s a second round I’ll pick that up. That kind of thing.

    If she were a college student on a scholarship, then no, only the odd hot dog in a park kind of thing, after I’ve paid for lots. But it’s been a long time since i’ve been with a girl THAT young or poor.

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  134. on February 26, 2011 at 5:13 pm VI

    I don’t believe I’ve ever bought a drink for a girl whom I hadn’t fucked yet or wasn’t a close friend.

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  135. on February 26, 2011 at 5:17 pm Good Luck Chuck

    lol

    lmao. Yep, it’s the bottle of liquor that will get you laid.

    Beta.

    Yea, I spike it with benzo’s and pour it down their throats. Works every time!

    Dumbass.

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  136. on February 26, 2011 at 5:21 pm Rum

    Lara

    I think you have it muddled. Who pays when it is an older guy with a much younger woman is not determined by gender but by finances. Much younger women from a rich family, etc often pay I don’t try to stop them. But if she has loans to payback, crap job, etc. the guy should just mensch up.

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  137. on February 26, 2011 at 5:22 pm Doug1

    Lara

    If a man is with a significantly younger woman, he should pay for everything, he is lucky to even be with her.

    Your last clause is EXACTLY the message he DOESN’T want to send to her.

    That’s why he should at least expect her to pay for some things symbolically. Only just symbolically if he’s got a lot more money, as well, he should ordinarily, unless she’s a trust fund kid or something.

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  138. on February 26, 2011 at 5:24 pm Doug1

    Rum–

    Exactly, so far as the big bucks and the totality are concerned.

    However, I always make girls pay for some small things at least, symbolically.

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  139. on February 26, 2011 at 5:32 pm Nicole

    Doug, you have a good balance. Some young guys though, might be too dogmatic.

    I think it’s a good idea for men to move towards a controlling direction with potential ltr worthy women. Aside of women needing training nowadays, one has to create a frame for life crap happening where the guy might not always being the one making the most money.

    A woman needs to get used to accounting for her time and money. Taking a woman in hand financially starts with baby steps.

    A lot gets said around here on how to get sex from a woman, but I think more needs to be said about the money. It is, after all, the fuel of the feminist entitlement mentality. A guy needs to know how to get a woman to bring that money home to him first and not the shopkeeper.

    Pimp game comes in handy when a guy changes careers or starts a business or just likes to keep his women in check.

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  140. on February 26, 2011 at 5:32 pm Doug1

    what–

    You are hilarious!!! lol!!! I won’t be able to keep a straight face and would start laughing!!!!

    It and close variations on it are known as the apocalypse opener in the game community.

    It’s worked for me several times. yeah most often it bombs, but it’s very low investment in time etc. You have to be in a super confidant high sexual energy state and deliver it that way to the right target when she’s effectively isolated.

    Laughter is not something I’ve ever gotten. I’ve gotten you’ve got to be kidding, you’ve got some nerve, what a jerk, what do you take me for, I’m not that kind of girl, what an asshole (with anger) — type responses. But laughter? Never.

    Not that I’ve tried it all that often. Though sometimes a lot in one night when I’ve been in the mood.

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  141. on February 26, 2011 at 5:42 pm Lara

    You guys are probably right, although I imagine older men tend to pay most of the time when they are with significantly younger women. It is nice to be treated, but it gives me just as much pleasure to spend money on a man. Of course I have to really like him to want to do that.

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  142. on February 26, 2011 at 5:47 pm Doug1

    Nicole–

    A lot gets said around here on how to get sex from a woman, but I think more needs to be said about the money. It is, after all, the fuel of the feminist entitlement mentality. A guy needs to know how to get a woman to bring that money home to him first and not the shopkeeper.

    Pimp game comes in handy when a guy changes careers or starts a business or just likes to keep his women in check.

    Yeah, good point.

    When I pay lots more for shared things with a tight girlfriend when I have lots more money than her, I do it from a frame of generosity not of obligation, or of feeling I have to, to keep her attracted. I send subtle messages from time to time that she’s lucky I’m so good to her (cause I can get hot pussy without being generous). I really think this is essential.

    I never ever share joint accounts with women when they’re living me, and I didn’t with my ex wife. We pay our own bills and maybe split some things, like I pay loft condo fees cause it’s my place and she pays utilities, to somewhat offset that in the place we share. But that’s because I’ve made a lot more money than all my live in gfs or wife, not because they’re princess entitled females.

    And yeah, I’d never tolerate a spendthrift, especially with my money. I don’t even make that possible.

    And yeah in different financial circumstances I would play pimp money game with my girl.

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  143. on February 26, 2011 at 6:01 pm Fubsy

    LOL. The free drinks chick set her sights too low.

    http://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2011/02/25/Man-gave-200K-to-fake-online-girlfriend/UPI-12961298662348/

    “The man “was in disbelief” when officers told him the woman was not real, police said”

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  144. on February 26, 2011 at 6:08 pm Doug1

    dragnet–

    “4) Men generally want sex more than women. Women are programmed to view sex as resource to be traded for value. This means that many women will attempt to leverage their sexuality to extract value from men…without delivering on the implied promise. Don’t be that sucker.”

    This is generally true.

    Women have what I like to call less “push” sexual drive than men. That is wanting to have sex without stimulation, or with only some stimulation, a lot of the time, with anyone decently attractive, although always the hotter the better of course. But not such a high bar.

    The amount of push sexual drive among women seems to vary according to their testosterone levels, always far lower than in men, but increased levels in women can have big effects in their push sex drives.

    However women can have very big “pull” sex drives, and are much more effected by the quality of the sex and the amount of pull they feel than men are. Give a girl great charmingly teasingly high energy sex and you can turn her into a sex addict for you. You can pull her sexually huge. There’s some of this effect on men with super responsive edgily and actively sexually submissive girls, but I don’t think it’s usually nearly as strong, at least on alphas.

    I think a large percentage of girls can be turned into sex addicts for you if you play it right. A majority of hot girls? I don’t know. But a lot of them. I tend to only be really attracted to the kind of girl I feel I can do that to though.

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  145. on February 26, 2011 at 6:12 pm Doug1

    In other words, almost men like bad sex with pretty girls. Cause most men don’t perceive bad sex with pretty girls as bad sex. (Discerning alphas won’t like lays there like a doll sex much at all, but if she’s hot looking, it’s worth a one off anyway.)

    Most women only really really want hot sex with hot (alphaish) guys. Otherwise they kinda have to be bought, one way or another. (Provider beta.)

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  146. on February 26, 2011 at 6:16 pm Good Luck Chuck

    dragnet

    I’d like to chime in with a point that could very well get me banned from this site: a blanket prohibition on buying women drinks is NOT a good rule of thumb for the Game. And here’s why…

    Is buying drinks a beta gesture? Yes—without question. However, doling out a bit of beta from a position of strength is often a sound strategy.

    You’re halfway right.

    Yes, buying a drink from a position of strength is the ONLY way to do it, however, the act of buying a drink isn’t “beta” in and of itself. Money can’t directly buy you true affection from a woman, but wise use of money CAN create a social aura that will pay huge dividends in the pussy department.

    This idea that spending more than $2.75 on a chick makes you a loser comes from guys who have relegated themselves to the idea that they are going to be poor for the rest of their lives.

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  147. on February 26, 2011 at 6:26 pm Doug1

    l.

    Roissy, you need to meet some Southern girls. Your impression of women is ruined somehow. There are some of us who think it’s our job to look good, have lots of sex, act sweet, make money, take care of the kids and house, do volunteer work, and host fun dinner parties for our spouses and their friends.

    You at least sound like a great wife. Kudos.

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  148. on February 26, 2011 at 6:33 pm Doug1

    Me

    You should never spend money when it isn’t a sure thing. Buying a woman drinks is not a sure thing. If you aren’t paying directly for direct sexual favors, you shouldn’t spend any money.

    These rigid rules are for small men with small psychological frames.

    You should maintain a charmingly, teasingly, dominant frame, without obligation or pressing need for her.

    All else follows from there.

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  149. on February 26, 2011 at 6:41 pm Gorbachev

    @Doug1

    In other words, almost men like bad sex with pretty girls. Cause most men don’t perceive bad sex with pretty girls as bad sex. (Discerning alphas won’t like lays there like a doll sex much at all, but if she’s hot looking, it’s worth a one off anyway.)

    Was once true for me. I’d rather have much better sex with a less attractive woman (to a point).

    That said, I’m much rather have much better sex with a more attractive woman.

    Most women only really really want hot sex with hot (alphaish) guys. Otherwise they kinda have to be bought, one way or another. (Provider beta.)

    More or less.

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  150. on February 26, 2011 at 7:00 pm jayjay

    Lara:

    “jayjay,
    The last time a guy bought me shots I threw up in his car on the ride home.”

    Sounds like it worked pretty well to me… dude just overreached. I keep a barfbag in the glovebox for just such occasions.

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  151. on February 26, 2011 at 7:07 pm Doug1

    I.

    I shouldn’t have said you “at least” sound lie a great wife.

    You do.

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  152. on February 26, 2011 at 7:31 pm Doug1

    I.

    I for one, honor you.

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  153. on February 26, 2011 at 9:55 pm n/a

    Lara,

    “…It is actually fairly easy to ignore an alpha if he doesn’t pay any attention to you. It is when he pays a little attention or does one nice thing for you that you start to like him…”

    That’s *exactly* right.

    The occasional unexpected smile.

    This works esp. well with girls you see all the time.

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  154. on February 26, 2011 at 11:36 pm Instapundit » Blog Archive » YOU KNOW, I’ve never bought a drink for a strange woman. Not now and certainly not when I was singl…

    […] KNOW, I’ve never bought a drink for a strange woman. Not now and certainly not when I was single. That’s for suckers. Are there really men who […]

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  155. on February 26, 2011 at 11:46 pm (The Real) Dreamer

    Don’t understood the mentality of a girl who will accept something of monetary value from a stranger…

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  156. on February 26, 2011 at 11:46 pm (The Real) Dreamer

    *understand

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  157. on February 26, 2011 at 11:55 pm Rrrrr

    If she’s not careful, somebody will rufi her ass.

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  158. on February 27, 2011 at 12:40 am Southern Man

    Wow, another Insta-Launch. It looks like both InstaPundit and his spouse Dr. Helen frequently avail themselves of the wisdom dispensed at Chateau Roissy; in fact I first found it from a mention on Instapundit. Welcome InstaPundit readers!

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  159. on February 27, 2011 at 12:47 am Smart Lady

    Come on, guys. You can’t even recognize satire when it’s staring you in the face. That’s so OBVIOUSLY not a serious article. Any male or female who didn’t recognize the irony in the article. (EX: “Sadly”?

    I thought the article was supposed to be a celebration of all those little “feminine wiles”.

    Funny how the cunt, through all that verbiage, gives herself away on one word.

    “Look hot, but innocent.”

    Spin, little hamster, spin!)

    Get over yourselves. The writer is ON YOUR SIDE, fellas. Maybe you should go back to school and read a little more Swift.

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  160. on February 27, 2011 at 12:53 am rickl

    The way to counter this tactic is to offer a “best out of five” suggestion. Example: “How about we do best out of five, but I get to ask the last question.”

    “Everyone knows that the anomaly on Apollo 13 was an explosion in an oxygen tank on the way to the moon.

    What was the anomaly on Apollo 12?”

    Any reasonably attractive woman who can answer that without looking it up will get an immediate proposal from me. 🙂

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  161. on February 27, 2011 at 1:22 am Dat_Truth_Hurts

    @ smart lady

    We know there is some satire in the article; there is also some truth. Those that post here on a regular basis enjoy the ebb and flow of the posts and comments.

    P.S. fuck you.

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  162. on February 27, 2011 at 2:09 am Stosh

    The only girls who have tried to hit me up for ‘free drinks’ have been whores. They have not been successful.

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  163. on February 27, 2011 at 2:21 am Eowyn

    Ah.

    Am I the only woman who goes into a bar just to go into a bar?

    Just because it’s something to do?

    Without head trips/baggage/hoopla?

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  164. on February 27, 2011 at 2:27 am Eowyn

    Yuck … from re-reading preceding posts, I guess I’m hopelessly dating myself.

    Not only am I not any good at parsing fine hairs in this game (shameless mixing of metaphors), but I’m cooked before I even try and get into the game.

    Modern life. Gotta love it.

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  165. on February 27, 2011 at 2:45 am Eowyn

    Actually, no, I don’t.

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  166. on February 27, 2011 at 3:22 am Carlos F

    popular topic this week;
    http://www.lasvegasweekly.com/news/2011/feb/22/free-and-easy—drinks-not-your-dance-partner/

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  167. on February 27, 2011 at 3:35 am Anonymous

    12. Pretend it’s your birthday. If you’re really going for it, wear a crown. You will probably get a drink “on the house” from the bartender or a guy you talk to will offer.

    My first thought when reading that was “Aren’t you a little old to be playing ‘Pretty Pretty Princess?’

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  168. on February 27, 2011 at 4:58 am M. Simon

    Richard Feynman explained it a chapter in one of his books. As Chateau explains above don’t buy her ANYTHING until she is putting out.

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  169. on February 27, 2011 at 5:09 am M. Simon

    Ah. Yes. Self control. My favorite line: “Sleep with me naked. No sex. I love the body contact.” And when she slept naked with me I kept my promise. No sex. Even if she asked for it (I might modify that if she was begging). In about 75% of the cases she would come back gagging for it. Her thinking? “Is there something wrong with me or is he gay? I HAVE to find out.” How do I know that? I met the first mate that way and she dished me her whole thinking process many years later. We are still married – 37 years after we started dating.

    And in the 25% of the times it didn’t work out? I got to sleep with a naked woman.

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  170. on February 27, 2011 at 5:19 am M. Simon

    7. You’re sitting down and mingling with a friend, and a guy comes and talks to you. You smile, and say, “Aren’t you going to buy me a drink before you start hitting on me?” He will take this as flirting and will always agree.

    Answer: “I’ll buy you a drink but first you have to sleep naked with me. No sex” see – February 27, 2011 at 5:09 am M. Simon – for what to do next.

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  171. on February 27, 2011 at 5:27 am M. Simon

    Ask her a question about tube amps or Call of Duty.

    Q: What is the function of the grid leak resistor in a regenerative receiver?

    Short A: It helps develop the grid bias from grid rectification.

    If you want to go deeper into it you can contrast it with cathode resistor bias and fixed bias.

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  172. on February 27, 2011 at 6:42 am Rick B.

    I’m 48. I give them the same answer as I give the dancers in a topless bar.”This ain’t my first rodeo. Unless we are going to be screwing in the next three minutes, let’s not waste each other’s time”.

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  173. on February 27, 2011 at 7:18 am Lavazza

    Actually I have never met free loaders like this. It must be an American thing. I always ask people in my group if they want a drink when I leave for the bar. I have never met anybody who’s been trying to take advantage by asking for a drink when they will be leaving the group shortly, asking for an expensive drink or not return the favour or say a polite thank you. From time to time women also behave in the same manner, but it is mostly guys, since there are more guys in bars and guys drink more.

    If you are looking for women of character buying the woman a drink is a cheap way of finding out if she is a woman of character or not, if the signs are not obvious that she isn’t.

    [Editor: True enough. But there are even cheaper ways that also involve sexual satisfaction. I mean, why limit yourself? you can keep your nuts and bust your nut, too.]

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  174. on February 27, 2011 at 8:18 am (The Real) Dreamer

    @ Eowyn
    No you’re not… and not dating yourself either. I’m very young and do not understand the whole mentality… if I go to a bar, I’m talking to the friends I came with and having a good time. For some reason that doesn’t include trying to get free stuff from guys I don’t know… I’m so out of the mix, lol.

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  175. on February 27, 2011 at 8:48 am Becky

    Hmmm. A lot of you here don’t come out looking much better than the drink whore. So she wants free drinks and you want free …

    [Editor: So women can’t enjoy sex and love if they aren’t getting remunerated for it?
    If it balks like a whore…]

    Somehow I get the feeling that this group thinks it is okay to lie and conive to get free sex but not a free drink. Goose meet Gander. Pot meet Kettle. Fact is, none of you look so great in the light of day.

    Be that as it may, some of the lines to push away the drink whore were just downright hilarious.

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  176. on February 27, 2011 at 9:46 am itsme

    becky,

    8===================D

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  177. on February 27, 2011 at 10:45 am How To Score Free Drinks? | DASH7 Wireless Sensor Networking Blog

    […] girl’s shares her “secrets” … quite depressing really but if you are a single guy, may be worth the reality check. […]

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  178. on February 27, 2011 at 10:54 am Rick B.

    Becky, it’s an adult game of chicken. We try to get “it”, women try not to give “it” up. Whomever blinks first loses.

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  179. on February 27, 2011 at 11:03 am Rum

    This is largely an American thing, in my experience. Europe/UK have always had local pubs that were just part of the neighborhood and people of all ages mingled. “Bars” in modern urban America signify places where it is mostly single folks of a narrow age range and there is a lot of anonymity.

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  180. on February 27, 2011 at 11:16 am Southern Man

    It just warms my heart to see the late, great Richard Feynman mentioned not only in these comments but named as a “role model” by Roosh in this post. Surely You’re Joking… is only ten bucks or so at Amazon and is so worth the read.

    As a wet-behind-the-ears physics grad student I had the privilege of hearing Dr. Feynman speak at a conference and knew even then that I was in the presence of greatness.

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  181. on February 27, 2011 at 11:17 am Southern Man

    OK, that Amazon link didn’t do exactly what I wanted but, still…

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  182. on February 27, 2011 at 11:19 am happycrow

    All these powerful alpha males… still worrying about how to get laid.

    [Editor: You misspelled illuminating.]

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  183. on February 27, 2011 at 11:47 am M. Simon

    Somehow I get the feeling that this group thinks it is okay to lie and conive to get free sex but not a free drink.

    Who said anything about lying? That is the worst thing you can do if you want a second go and perhaps something more durable.

    The good guys are auditioning. The creeps are playing. There is a subtle but important difference. Are you good enough to tell the difference?

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  184. on February 27, 2011 at 12:31 pm jeff

    All the more reason why I just don’t go to bars. The chances of getting laid just isn’t worth being with a crowd of humans in a social situation I wouldn’t tolerate even if the drinks were free.

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  185. on February 27, 2011 at 12:47 pm Dan

    What do you pros think about this response to a chick looking to score a free drink?

    “Hey, if you’re looking to score free drinks, you picked the wrong mark.”

    How would that do?

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  186. on February 27, 2011 at 2:35 pm Sweet_brier

    I don’t think these quoted pieces of advice are real.

    For example, in the quote, “12. Pretend it’s your birthday. If you’re really going for it, wear a crown. You will probably get a drink “on the house” from the bartender or a guy you talk to will offer.”

    Notice the word “crown”. Women don’t use the word. They don’t wear crowns.

    They wear tiaras.

    This site was written by a dude, for pageviews + ca$h.

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  187. on February 27, 2011 at 3:25 pm Linkage is Good for You: Last of the Old Edition

    […] Men Leave the Market”Chateau – “Game and Life Trajectory“, “A Girl’s Tricks for Scoring Free Drinks“, “Woman is the Kitty of the World”Mike – “Misandry“, […]

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  188. on February 27, 2011 at 4:02 pm John Smith

    One time a very cute (solid 8.5-no kidding) 18 /19 year old knocked on the door to my house trying to sell me something, probably magazine subscriptions. I told her after the frst couple words of her pitch that I wasn’t interested. She responded by saying, “You don’t even know what I’m selling yet”. I responded that it didn’t matter. I smiled and began closing the door. She quickly splurted out, “Wait!”Plainly taking me for schmuck, “Aren’t I cute?” “Sort of,” I said. “But what good does that do me?” and I closed the door. Now of course I wasn’t looking to get laid from that, particularly since my wife was due home from the store at any moment. But it felt good knowing I didn’t buy a subscription to some fucking magazine I’d never read anyway.

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  189. on February 27, 2011 at 5:54 pm Big Ed

    These responses could work:

    1. I’m an NBA star. Four of my teammates are in jail for rape. My team president ordered me not to talk to strange women in bars;

    2. (this one is a turnaround of a line that Beverly D’Angelo used in one of her movies): turn to her with a blank bored expression, and say in your flattest American accent: I don’t speak English.

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  190. on February 27, 2011 at 6:03 pm Katie

    She sounds like a desperate, vapid and ugly person looking to get date raped. Doesnt she know the #1 rule when u get a free drink? Always watch the bartender pour it. I’ve never been this type of girl because I’ve never needed to be. And frankly, both of these articles are pathetic. Thank God I’m married and don’t have to deal with all the losers out there looking to use and be used by some drunk person who probably has an std.

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  191. on February 27, 2011 at 6:46 pm Lara

    @Katie
    “Thank God I’m married and don’t have to deal with all the losers out there looking to use and be used by some drunk person who probably has an std.”

    Yeah, what a relief not to be out having fun.

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  192. on February 27, 2011 at 7:28 pm Rum

    The scheme of adding something (roofies) to her drink such that the girl wakes up with a sore crouch and no distinct memories of where she was the night before – is actually farfetched. For one thing, you have to really know what you are doing. You have to get the dosage right and this will vary with the girls body weight, body fat composition, plus her blood alcohol levels now in the future. If the dose is too low, she remember enough to create difficulties. If too high then you will need to know a friend who owns a pig farm. Getting it down will take several practice runs, generally. On the other hand, if you understand and possess the right medical monitoring devices a lot of wastage can be reduced before you get the hang of it. Just ask Michael Jackson personal Doctor about that.

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  193. on February 27, 2011 at 8:55 pm Rick B.

    Rum, cheaper & safer to just hire a hooker.

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  194. on February 27, 2011 at 8:58 pm RC

    multiple lulz in this post

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  195. on February 28, 2011 at 12:49 am Satyr

    When a girl aska for a drink and won’t let up I’ll buy two drinks and then take a sip from each in front of her.

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  196. on February 28, 2011 at 2:49 am Mouzer

    My response to the original article was the same as the very first comment. Forget game and all of that stuff; most of the article sounds as if the title should be changed from “A Girl’s Tricks For Scoring Free Drinks” to “A Broke and Desperate Alcoholic’s Tricks…”

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  197. on February 28, 2011 at 3:51 am irony

    article pulled. here is the google cache link

    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:IrbyUq47lxUJ:www.hercampus.com/school/arizona/13-ways-score-free-drinks+http://www.hercampus.com/school/arizona/13-ways-score-free-drinks&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a&source=www.google.com

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  198. on February 28, 2011 at 4:09 am Hukka

    @Big Ed:

    Yes, the second reply is the most hilarious. Another variant is to answer with foreign language. For anyone living in Europe, English is great. Or as the majority of the chicks do not know German or Swedish, these are even better. Usually girls want to switch to English because everyone knows at least a bit of that. There’s only one pitfall you should worry about: your accent. Learn your phrases from movies or intervierws, and make them perfect. Act, do the movie thing, imagine you’re someone else. Whatever you do, do not drop the accent – until it’s time to reveal you are of the same nationality (if ever). One more thing: If you start with for example with German, let it ring through in your English as well. It’s always best to start with something else than English, because then you cannot be expected to have native English accent.

    Whenever a chick hears you do not speak her language, she is at the same time more interested and starts to qualify. Usually, when drunk and surprised, foreign languages tend to be difficult. For her, that is. You are prepared. Nod sympathetically at her attempts of showing the cosmopolitan aura and stumbling with even the basic expressions. Actually, if your accent sounds good enough, it does not matter what you say, as she’ll interpret her not understanding as her fault: “Wow, this guy speaks fast and ambiguous, he must be REALLY exotic”. Look busy, you are the exotic foreigner and you have heard elementary English from drunk princesses too many times. She’ll notice and start trying twice as hard.

    Now, if she finally remembers to ask for the drink, shoot her down with superquick utter bullshit:

    – Ca, ca, can you buy me a drink?
    – Cheers luv, it’s all uppers ‘n downers alright ya know what I’m sayin’, but as soon as me gets all goin’ there’s gonna be an avalanche of oopsadaisies, anyway. Or?

    Not saying yes, not saying no. Your face expression: you just asked her a question. Maybe. Watch her face as she does not know what to say. Then nod and go away. She’ll follow.

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  199. on February 28, 2011 at 9:40 am Jerry

    @M. Simon

    You write well.

    Please read the archives, especially regarding fibbing and dealing with hot golddiggers.

    Even with seeming marriage material, don’t worry about being rejected later because of a white lie, for instance, about your age, up front. If she’s 18-25 and you’re over 40, you will need to be under 40 if she asks before sex.

    Women want to have sex with their fantasy.

    It’s also in the interest of women to create an illusion that women will reject alphas later on if they lie upfront.

    But the reality is that, once a woman has had sex with you and has fallen in love, she will see shocking information (such as you being 66) in a far different light.

    Believe me, only Americans have a fixation with the truth, and it’s used to keep men in line. Its not good for men that so many American women conduct background checks on men before dating.

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  200. on February 28, 2011 at 9:45 am Jerry

    @M. Simon

    The Chateau has written several times that a man should be the age a woman wants him (or guesses him) to be.

    Once he wrote that you should ask her age and add 10 if you’re more than 10 years older and can get away with saying 10.

    Hard exercise and other things can severely influence how old a man looks.

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  201. on February 28, 2011 at 10:19 am theprivateman

    Drink whore, dinner whore, attention whore.

    Common word of all three types?

    Next.

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  202. on February 28, 2011 at 11:21 am katfish

    Disgusted by my gender…

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  203. on February 28, 2011 at 12:36 pm M. Spillane

    This broad is duping boys–e.g., bros, frats, etc.

    I’d like to see her try some of this crap once she’s graduate from nusery university.

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  204. on February 28, 2011 at 2:15 pm Coco

    “No woman in the world has slept with a guy because he bought her a drink”

    Yes but many women will not sleep with one because he didnt. If you are not going to buy the drink then you better have something entertaining to make us forget. Again this woman’s ‘trick’ assumes that the man in question is trying to score. Of course if he doesnt care one way or another then it will not work.

    My favorite line for getting free drinks:

    Guy: Hello, whats your name?
    Me: I drink tequilla

    lol! It works! I always tell my friends if you want a free drink with the least amount of effort always choose fat, ugly or old.

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  205. on February 28, 2011 at 2:21 pm Very Much a Lady

    I am a lucky woman. I found the man of my dreams.
    He is secure enough within his masculinity to understand and accept the fact that I don’t “NEED” him for anything other than comapnionship.
    I want a man in my life by my choice, not by need…
    I dont need a man to buy me a drink, dinner, clothing, jewlery, pay my bills or do anything for me financially.
    I have far more pride and dignity than to depend on a man to provide for me.. I know what I like, how I like it, when I like it and where I like it…And very few men can provide me with what I trully need…

    Most of the guys whining here would not have a chance with me or any of my friends who have the same attitudes and opinions as mine..

    You boys are to needy. to high maintenance emotionally and there is nothing Alpha about disrespectiong yourselves or others…

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  206. on February 28, 2011 at 3:17 pm DirkJohanson

    Along the lines of the scholarship for white men, I was going into a supermarket on Saturday with a 16 YO guy who is the son of a friend. On the way in, he said exactly what I was thinking when we were approached to buy Girl Scout Cookies: “I only support groups for boys.”

    His comment warmed my heart. There’s hope for the up-and-coming generation.

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  207. on February 28, 2011 at 5:46 pm Southern Man

    What is it about this post that seems to be attracting so much attention? Now has a link from Linkiest. New readers, if you got this far start going through the archives. Like right now.

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  208. on February 28, 2011 at 7:32 pm Doug1

    Stosh

    The only girls who have tried to hit me up for ‘free drinks’ have been whores. They have not been successful.

    Responding to girls doing that in the right kind of way is actually a very good pickup opportunity. This kind of way as I said above:

    http://roissy.wordpress.com/2011/02/25/a-girls-tricks-for-scoring-free-drinks/#comment-237878

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  209. on February 28, 2011 at 10:23 pm SentWest

    Being, I guess, a beta female in terms of attractiveness, I have a much easier and less underhanded way of getting free drinks:

    Be Interesting.

    I just got a free night of drinks on the strength of my opinions on string theory and WarCraft. I’m nerdy and not ultra skinny, and really haven’t had to buy myself drinks, and have NEVER asked someone to buy me a drink (gawd, rude…) for as long as I can remember.

    Ladies, take note….

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  210. on March 1, 2011 at 12:12 am The Truth

    “Very much a lady” ya we know. You are a special snowflake who shits unicorns. Now git.

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  211. on March 1, 2011 at 5:23 am Jerry

    @Very Much a Lady

    It seems you’re a visitor from Instapundit which means you probably also identify with being a conservative Republican American female (possibly a Palin supporter). It’s possible that you misunderstood the post and the blog (or understood it too well) as well as misunderstood the concept of what it means to be conservative, Republican and maybe even “a lady” (no offense meant, I’ll explain).

    This post was not a condemnation of women who are too poor to carry their own weight financially in a relationship. If that were the case, this would have been a Marxist feminist post, supporting the feminist notion that “Power Differentials” should not exist between men and women (especially the older men younger women variety).

    This blog, on the contrary, promotes power differentials between men and women and one can define game as the creation of a power differential, real or imagined, in a woman’s mind by a man who knows that a woman with options will be more sexually attracted to the man where the biggest power differential exists. Power is, however, not so much a function of finances but in behavior and attitude.

    Feminists hate this blog precisely because it celebrates major differences between the genders and notes that women are not interested in mating with their “equals” (unless they’re running out of options in which case they desperately try to keep their “equals” from dating younger, poorer women – which is what feminism is all about).

    This post condemned those women who would try to get something for nothing, with ‘nothing’ being defined as their brief attention and brief conversation at the place of meeting, something men in general should damned well expect for free from women in general in a healthy society.

    It pedestalizes women too much to say their conversation should cost money.

    I’ve seen the host say its OK for a man to pay for dinner if a (presumably young financially strapped) woman he’s met in a bar decides to change venue with him and go to a restaurant more than a dozen yards away. Even then, it would be a judgment call whether he should pay. It would have to depend on how well the conversation goes. If I got into an argument about feminism with an American woman on a dinner date, I would make her pay half the bill no matter how financially disadvantaged she was.

    Men shouldn’t pay for no results. Who would argue they should?

    This post also condemned the men who would artificially raise the value of women to the point where a simple, in place conversation should cost a man money. Women don’t respect men who put them on pedestals that way.

    A conservative Republican woman shouldn’t have a problem with this sentiment.

    A “lady” isn’t necessarily defined as a woman who pays her own way all the time, although a well brought up woman will usually not order more than a soup or salad on a first date meal if she hasn’t committed to a relationship with a man who will be paying for the meal.

    This segways into a discussion of what feminists (defined as those who feel men should date their financial equals) are doing in the Republican Party and whether the Republican Party still has room for older female moralists who want to keep men their own age regulated by law in their (the men’s) pursuit of happiness (for instance with younger women):

    Something has happened in politics in the past week that many have not noticed because the media is smart enough to know this could be monumental.

    Democrat Senator Harry Reid announced last week that he was siding with the anti-sex Marxist feminists who want to
    “finally end the oldest profession by outlawing it in Nevada”. He didn’t say so in so many words, but he was placating those who don’t like the patriarchal aspect of men having sex with women because of a financial power differential. He certainly wasn’t trying to win the votes of social conservative males.

    He was, however, also placating older women who don’t want their husbands and potential meal tickets to have more options to give their time and resources to younger, more attractive women. The Democratic Party obviously wants to try to become the Women’s Party.

    Those who know the make-up of the Democratic Party understand that, for the past 30 years, it has been an uneasy alliance of young males who love sex with older anti-sex feminists (+ self-interested minorities and people too stupid to vote). Older women and younger men often have the same interest in stopping older men and younger women from getting together.

    But American males, by a large margin, and especially liberal and independent American males, would support Nevada’s stance on the oldest profession (a majority of conservative males would support it as well).

    Harry Reid, by siding with the anti-sex feminists, declared war on liberal and independent males on behalf of the Democratic Party last week; and, yes, a ton of these males noticed and commented all over the Internet that the Democratic Party had betrayed them or turned them off.

    100% of the comments at CNN, FoxNews and other sites were against Harry Reid’s announcement.

    Enter Republican Senator Ensign from Nevada.

    He just announced yesterday that he supports the continuation of the oldest profession in Nevada (he used the argument that it’s a decision for counties to make but it was a surprise that he did even that).

    Writ large, this means that the “Tea Party Movement” is finally living up to its implied promise to men of condemning big government’s intrusion in the private lives of heterosexual males.

    Up until now, the Tea Party movement has discussed every topic except those specifically related to men having options. The Republican Party has still not discussed less controversial issues such as lowering excessive child support (so men can date new women), banning alimony (so men can date new women), softening sexual harassment laws (so men can do their secretaries without worry) and stopping the trend in raising the age of consent (so men don’t fall into gotcha traps).

    But GOP Senator Ensign’s effective green light for the legalization of prostitution has been a surprising start to a possible reorganization of the Republican Party platform to focus on what men want and not what older insecure women want, especially if the older women want big government to curtail men’s individual liberties (I would have been fine with Senator Ensign simply saying that men should never be criminalized for paying for sex).

    As the Democratic Party tries to alienate males and women who like males, the Republican Party may finally see the electoral light and go after the male vote for the first time ever (appealing to military matters in the past should never have counted as going after the male vote).

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  212. on March 1, 2011 at 5:41 am Jerry

    If I could edit the above, I’d make the following clarifications:

    1) The liberal media likely doesn’t want to pursue the Senator Reid vs Senator Ensign issue because they know that Democrat and independent males would side with Republican Senator Ensign on the issue. Even Fox News is likely to drop the issue after announcing Senator Ensign’s position last night.

    If this issue were to stay in the forefront somehow, with the Democratic Party openly condemning prostitution, boatloads of heterosexual Democrat males would abandon their party (for trying to destroy male options).

    2) The alliance in the Democratic Party has traditionally been between young pro-sex males vs older anti-sex feminists. The way I wrote it may have looked like I was saying it was an alliance of “young males who want sex with older anti-sex feminists vs minorities”. That is not what I meant to say at all, despite the fact that a lot of young liberal mangina males will date cougar feminists and support their political causes.

    It should be clear that the Young Male vs Older Female alliance exists but it is tenuous. Smart Republican politicians can destroy this alliance by focusing on issues where young men and older women would disagree.

    3) The Democratic Party seems to want to become more and more the Older Women’s Party, where younger males are clearly second class party members.

    Younger males and younger females need to send the old feminists in the Democratic Party packing. In many ways, the defeat of Hillary Clinton was supposed to be a manifestation of the will of younger males to do just this.

    It’s just too bad that Obama turned out to be such a pro-feminist wuss.

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  213. on March 1, 2011 at 12:10 pm alpha mofo

    Good stuff once again. It is important to note however that this culturally relavant to mainly US/N.American slags. For one, most girls in other countries don’t strap on Ugg boots and go get wasted with the same zeal that American bitches do. Secondly playing hard to buy drinks in other cultures makes you look like a cheap skate or maybe gay. In certain more traditional and masculine societies (say most of Latin America) the man buys and shows power and ability to throw around doe when he wants. Also the lack of disposable income in most other countries means she will be impressed and satisfied with a drink or two from an alpha. (Of course you still decide what you are drinking, when you are drinking and when you are leaving)

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  214. on March 1, 2011 at 12:12 pm Gorbachev

    Talk about rape, the workplace, family, harassment, etc., and you get few comments from women.

    Talk about minor cultural issues – who picks up the check, women and dating, who gets free drinks and when they get free drinks, etc. – and the shitstorm starts.

    Just an observation.

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  215. on March 1, 2011 at 12:32 pm Tinderbox

    @ Good Luck Chuck

    There is one bottle of liquor that every single man should have at his place- Absinthe…

    …The quasi-illegality of it adds to the mystique

    If every single man has a bottle of this at his place, then it will quickly lose its mystique. More of a prop for artsy/gothy/Euro types, anyone else will look like a poseur or a tourist. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

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  216. on March 1, 2011 at 12:32 pm (The Real) Dreamer

    @ alpha mofo
    Exactly… big part of american culture = getting s***faced as an activity. I’m not knocking that for the guys – the frat guys are ‘gonna do it, but do the girls really have to go there? We’re waaay too vulnerable for that kind of thing.

    Lots of modern rape debates would come to rest if women stopped thinking they could go get sloppy drunk, take off their clothes, and black out at a party full of drunk/horny guys with no repercussions.

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  217. on March 1, 2011 at 1:34 pm Gorbachev

    Educating Women: It’s possible.

    My SO has been “educated” recently by Misandry Review and the Spearhead and Man Woman Myth.

    She was initially offended by everything, but now has come to agree with much of it. It was a sense of betrayal at feminist ideology.

    Things she’s now taking issue with and arguing from the “male” perspective:

    – 25% of women assaulted has gone out the window. She agrees it’s more like 0.5%-4%. Max 10%, but even then, she agrees that college campuses are basically the safest places in the world for women – it’s all hysteria. She likes my “moral crusade” parallel.

    – Marriage as a bad choice for men. She has a conundrum: She’d like to marry me (theoretically, anyway).

    – False accusations of DV for divorce manipulation (She’s appalled at the stories she’s read, and the stats).

    – False accusations of child abuse (lawyers say are standard now)

    – More child abuse by women (also more evidence of this)

    – 50% of DV being perpetrated by women. This from the woman in the UK who started the first women’s shelter there but was hounded out. She’s a compelling writer. My SO saw the truth in her words immediately. There’s a whole video series by Man Woman Myth she’s watching now.

    She has the “I’m angry that this BS has been circulating and I feel betrayed by Liberal Feminist Ideology” reaction. I assist it from time to time.

    She came up to me and said: Marriage sucks for men.

    I agreed.

    I said, this is what we lose:

    – The right to have sexual variety (not that I’m into that at this moment, I add with a grin, but always applicable),

    – Any rights in divorce (and even feminists admit family courts are massively stacked against men everywhere – with no accountability; they often just avoid discussing it)

    – The right to personal freedom

    – The appearance of obligations not previously held (of course, same goes for women).

    I pointed out that it can be a raw deal for both men and women, but that women get a pass much of the time, and automatic sympathy that men don’t.

    She also agreed, finally, that women often make false rape accusations (estimates as high as 40%) for a range of reasons (biggest: hiding shame after cheating, but often also trivial reasons). The stats bear this out. She knows of one woman who accused a man of rape but never followed it up; she later admitted there’d been sexual innuendo and a drunken groping at a party, but no rape, but it FELT like rape. She remembered the story BUT NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT IT.

    How interesting. I wonder how many rape stories people hear are the same: FEELS like rape, but it wasn’t.

    So women CAN be educated. They can see the truth.

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  218. on March 1, 2011 at 2:53 pm DJ

    I wonder if the Apocalypse opener would work on a waitress or bartender? Heh. I bet it wouldn’t.

    I did a similar one – girl came up to me at the bar as I was finishing my beer, and asked, “Are you going now?” to which I said, “Why, you wanna go home and have sex?” I didn’t break frame, she didn’t know what to make of it. Since then I get intense eye contact from her everytime I see her, but frankly, I find her kind of annoying.

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  219. on March 1, 2011 at 3:38 pm phucket

    Good for you, Gorby, with the reverse brainwashing. I was told that a friend’s friend, in order to get a masters degree in education had to do a paper on why there’s so much “assault” on college campuses these days. Obviously, the paper is an exercise in promoting the big lie, not in challenging the dominant assumptions of Big Leftism. I thought it woulda been funny to do so anyway and write a paper from a spearhead perspective but the poor girl would probably be blacklisted.

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  220. on March 1, 2011 at 3:57 pm Gorbachev

    @phucket
    Good for you, Gorby, with the reverse brainwashing. I was told that a friend’s friend, in order to get a masters degree in education had to do a paper on why there’s so much “assault” on college campuses these days. Obviously, the paper is an exercise in promoting the big lie, not in challenging the dominant assumptions of Big Leftism. I thought it woulda been funny to do so anyway and write a paper from a spearhead perspective but the poor girl would probably be blacklisted.

    There’s virtually no assault on campuses. The reason people think there is is that narcissistic upper-class nothing-to-do types with hard ideologies to bang live in schools. THEREFORE ALL MAJOR PROBLEMS HAPPEN IN SCHOOL. Of course.

    *THEIR* perceived injustices (“I can’t join the boy’s hockey team!”) are incredibly serious.

    ACTUAL problems women have with men get ignored.

    Want sexual assault?

    Try among bad cops extorting sex from prostitutes. That’s an old story. It’s at least sexual blackmail.
    How about strippers being beaten and hooked on drugs?

    The saddest college student has nothing on the average Prole American woman.

    Seriously, feminism is for stuck-up narcissistic ivory-tower college women. Virtually everything they touch is a micro-issue.

    If they WANT An issue, they need to invent it.

    Like RAPE ON CAMPUS: 25% OF WOMEN ARE RAPED RAPED RAPED!

    It’s not even partly or mostly true. It’s a complete fabrication. No part of it is even slightly true.

    But it MUST be true because MEN ARE EVIL DOWN WITH THE PATRIARCHY and WE’RE IN SCHOOL SO IT ALL HAPPENS HERE and THE PERSONAL IS THE POLITICAL.

    Truly, nothing the radical left ever says has even the slightest bearing on reality. It’s all invented and concocted and created. And this is GOOD. Because the Ideology is Correct -a priori.

    Don’t try logic. You need to do it subtly. Direct assaults are useless.

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  221. on March 1, 2011 at 4:36 pm phucket

    Especially in light of the Duke F list. Most men in college are surrounded by vamping whores (yay!) who are only interested in hooking up with about 10 percent of the guys there. The 10-40th percentile that they accidently hook up with when extremely drunk get the regret assault charges.

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  222. on March 1, 2011 at 6:43 pm Firepower

    The irony in her tricks for getting free drinks from suckers lies in the fact that, although presented as a way to make a possible love connection, free drink buying will actually spoil a woman’s budding attraction for a man.

    I usually order my girl to shill occasional drinks for me. She likes the idea of “the hunt” but it’s really fetching.

    I had a smokin’ spinner once who had this irresistible baby face that could snatch a drink for me in 2 minutes time; I know, because I timed it.

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  223. on March 1, 2011 at 7:58 pm mjw

    Shouldn’t the title be ‘A girl’s tricks for WHORING free drinks’?

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  224. on March 1, 2011 at 8:12 pm Obstinance Works

    Easiest way to distract this one: Want some coke instead?

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  225. on March 2, 2011 at 6:25 pm Doug1

    Gorbachev

    Educating Women: It’s possible.

    You’re doing so much right with PCG.

    It’s definitely the way to go with a LTR. The whole sexual politics frame that women in feminist and post feminist America tend to operate in as they seek to harness and betaize guilty feeling men (or men they feel should feel guilty) is part of the equation. Dissolving a lot of that is part of being fully alpha with a LTR.

    I’ve done similar things with M, with a similar trajectory, though she started out more conservative I think, in a kinda liberal or centrist Catholic sort of way.

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  226. on March 2, 2011 at 6:33 pm Gorbachev

    @Gorbachev
    Educating Women: It’s possible.

    You’re doing so much right with PCG.
    It’s definitely the way to go with a LTR. The whole sexual politics frame that women in feminist and post feminist America tend to operate in as they seek to harness and betaize guilty feeling men (or men they feel should feel guilty) is part of the equation. Dissolving a lot of that is part of being fully alpha with a LTR.

    I want to make sure she’s comfortable with me as her Man. And stays comfortable. With all that implies.

    Fucking up now would be such a monumental waste.

    I’ve done similar things with M, with a similar trajectory, though she started out more conservative I think, in a kinda liberal or centrist Catholic sort of way.

    PCG was ultra-liberal, though with a more pragmatic view. That said, completely SWPL, in a Piss Off kind-of European way. Less moral righteousness, more judgment.

    Getting her to watch me clean an animal I’d just killed made the fall.

    Bring your woman the heads or your enemies or the entrails of your victims. Display them. Blood’s not the only thing that’s wet.

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  227. on March 3, 2011 at 2:17 pm Gorbachev

    @Doug1,

    Gorbachev

    One guy told me a Real Alpha would get her to buy him dinner, then leave her right after sex.

    He’s wrong. He’s following a rule book and isn’t feeling the situation. Not very alpha.

    I was running on this principle: Assuming that I got her to agree, and she was interested at all, all I had to do was 1) keep up the momentum, 2) Build comfort, and 3) Not fuck up. Also 4), take advantage of the situation – ie, ACT.

    I almost screwed that up by not acting; 3 hours or so sitting around talking (laughing), having wine, before making out was a potential deal-killer, but when we got to it, I made sure it was worth it. So did she.

    I think turning out NOT to be a creep, a weirdo or a psychotic emotionally-distanced man helped with the FB relationship afterwards.

    It’s always best not to lie. Had I been anything but genuine, eventually it would have been found out. As it is, I created a happy momentum and was able to carry it. Aside from sex, she turned out to be relatively cool and good to spend time with; I genuinely like hanging around her when we do.

    And despite not being “slutty” (or more than any other woman), or being a woman who doesn’t go home with guys, she sees no difficulty in continuing to hang out with me from time to time: she thinks I’m cool and interesting. Of course, I am.

    But the upshot is:

    If you want to be Alpha, unless you’re Deuce Bigelow, a good helping of honest Abe and directness is always good.

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  228. on March 3, 2011 at 2:32 pm Gorbachev

    @Doug1,

    And my reaction to a couple was lame.

    The best reaction to being blow out is to simply give a bemused slight smile and say something like “Ok babe.” And walk away. Unless you detect IOIs below the anger, or haughty ASD dismissal.

    I wasn’t ready for one chick who seemed genuinely shocked and offended. She was white and looked like the feminist type (wink). Really, she was shocked from an existential standpoint. Who knows. But she was genuinely offended and I thought was going to get me *ejected* from the evening. She looked that mad.

    A bit of a danger.

    If you ever want to try this, a warning – prissy white chicks often overreact to this kind of thing. Actually, my entire interaction with her was my response to her expression of disgust. I have no idea what was going on in her head.

    Most women were bemused. The best response was a yes, I think I approached 6 or 7 women that night. But the married Indian woman definitely seemed like she’d be game. She just had that, … look. As in, Oh, hey. Another one. You look bold, maybe sure, but, … not now. Sorry guy. We’ve all seen that.

    RD was definitely not the type. After I knew her pretty well, I had to downgrade my little Alpha Award for success – she was the wrong target, at precisely the right time and situation. With the correct approach. She always told me I was the most direct guy she ever knew. That night, she *says* she had no intention of going back with me (of course, this isn’t quite true – ASD retrospect in action), but I turned out to be a straight-dealer and to the point. She said in this industry, no end of men are endlessly trying to get into her pants; they use little methods to do it. She knows they just want to get laid.

    I came out and just did it; she was a little tipsy; very bored; and I had that look (as in, not shitting her). And then I engaged her by talking to her, getting to know her, and talking about myself (circumspectly), life, etc.

    When we got down to it, we had generated a friendly vibe, and if it went any more, sex might have been put off. I knew I’d risk losing it there so I stepped in, kissed her and off we went.

    That said, I’d also talked about sexual themes during our conversation. But my personal philosophy is: Don’t talk sex, do it. Talking removes the mystique. Women want “mystery and right” over “careful thought and discussion”.

    Once we actually HAD sex, and the next day came, there was no relationship-talk, but we hung out a lot for a while and she never really gravitated away. She thought we made a good pair on one level.

    She later told me she liked the idea of FBs who were actually also friends – and has maintained that a real relationship was always out of the question. Various signals gave me the impression, though, that this was rationalization.

    I’m pretty sure if I approached her for a real relationship she’d more than likely be game. She gave off enough signals to this truth to tell me this was probably true.

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  229. on March 3, 2011 at 5:29 pm Doug1

    Gorb–

    And despite not being “slutty” (or more than any other woman), or being a woman who doesn’t go home with guys, she sees no difficulty in continuing to hang out with me from time to time: she thinks I’m cool and interesting. Of course, I am.

    I’ve found it’s often easier to keep fairly good girls as FBs, than sluts. At least for the longer term, and at least compared to sluts who are also in the seriously hot 8 and up range. Good girls want to keep their number count down. They’re looking for an alphaish guy to commit and often won’t sleep with one until the show signs that they will. Esp. once they’ve had several alpha lovers (like me) who wouldn’t. Sluts will sleep with new guys and crave new guy thrills, and repeatedly delude themselves about the right alpha committing to them.

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  230. on March 3, 2011 at 6:49 pm Gorbachev

    @Doug1
    I’ve found it’s often easier to keep fairly good girls as FBs, than sluts. At least for the longer term, and at least compared to sluts who are also in the seriously hot 8 and up range.

    It’s true. 8+ chicks are always being approached and keeping their attention can be hard, especially as nothing more than a FB. Some move through guys (get tooled by alphas) on a 2-5 month rotational basis, though, so you can always re-tap when these end.

    Good girls want to keep their number count down. They’re looking for an alphaish guy to commit and often won’t sleep with one until the show signs that they will. Esp. once they’ve had several alpha lovers (like me) who wouldn’t. Sluts will sleep with new guys and crave new guy thrills, and repeatedly delude themselves about the right alpha committing to them.

    Read: Selective Korean Hotties who don’t understand Where The Good Men Are Gone To.

    Uh-huh. Let me sing it for you, baby.

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  231. on March 3, 2011 at 9:23 pm Scorpion Eagle

    missin a golden opp there. she asks in whatever pussytastic way for a drink. she just gave you the green light for game and you didn’t even have to move outta your seat. turn the table on her. use her game to your adv and make her work for it. tease the shit outta her with cocky funny bubblistic igenuity and then reward the both a yas with a drink. just make sure hers is smaller and/or cheaper than yours. and make sure she knows it.

    whatev games they got you can always flip it.

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  232. on March 7, 2011 at 10:35 pm MikeeUSA

    I’m not a 5th column.

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