How do you survive that?
Because I’m me. I’m different. I just have a different constitution, I have a different brain, I have a different heart… you know, I’ve got tiger blood, man.
A big thank you is owed super alpha Charlie Sheen for distracting us Americans from the debt sinkhole, multicult mass brain disease and Third Worldization of our country. Thanks bud!
What can be said about this guy? Is he a little crazy? Yep. A jerk? Yep. A drug addict? Probably. Alpha? You bet.
No one claimed alpha males had to be admirable (though personally I find much to admire about Sheen). The alpha male and the admirable man may often be the same, but not always. Women, saddled as their emotionally stunted gender is with an underdeveloped sense of justice and fairness, swoon for the alpha male, whether or not he is admirable. Sure, women will talk a big talk about the fine traits of admirable men, but when pussy comes to tingle, it’s double alpha all the way.
Sheen is an example of the highwire alpha extremis male who draws women into his orbit through intensity, unpredictability, charisma and rebelliousness. What he lacks in grace under pressure and amused mastery he makes up for with brazen candor and fearlessness, as well as a take-no-shit-from-anyone attitude. We could call this Tiger Blood Game.
There’s a lot to note in Sheen’s Tiger Blood Game that follows the tenets of this blog.
I’ve got magic and I’ve got poetry in my fingertips, and you know… this includes NAPS.
Cocky funny.
I’m an F-18, bro. I will destroy you in the air and I will deploy my ordnance to the ground.
I am on a drug. It’s called Charlie Sheen. It’s not available, because if you try it once, you will die.
Be interesting. If you’re going to strut, do it in a way that is funny and captivating.
Stuff just comes out. It’s sounds fun. It sounds different than all the garbage other people are spewing.
Demonstrating higher value via contrast with lower value people. This is similar to the technique of building comfort with a date by poking fun of a guy doing poorly on his date, or asking a girl “how many of these horndogs tonight slobbered all over you?”.
Are you apologizing for anything right now?
Well, I kind of set that one up nicely, didn’t I? Yeah, no, I’m… really, I’m upset about how something was interpreted. I feel terrible it, so I think we should just clear the air on that.
Excellent dodge. The alpha male never apologizes, particularly when he has nothing to apologize for and people are demanding the apology for their own status boosting reasons. (Really, is Chaim, or his shalom chorus, *that* upset that Sheen called him Chaim?)
Stay away from the crack… unless you can manage it socially.
Be a rebel, but be right. This statement may have raised the hackles of the anti-drug crusaders, but it’s true. Some people can handle it, some can’t. Charlie Sheen has money, fame and likely a genetic disposition that enables him to partake of the smiley snow without suffering too many adverse affects. I’ve known quite a few top-flight school MBA students who snorted on the regular, and they’re making money hand over fist.
Sheen did backpedal from this statement, which is understandable. The fuzz are probably on him, so he has to be circumspect now.
Did any of your celebrity friends [editor note: competitor alpha males] give you any advice?
Well, they didn’t give me any advice, and within that, there’s great advice… it was just love.
The alpha male never credits other alphas if it means a diminution in his own status. “Love” is a neutral term in this context which preserves Sheen’s alpha cred.
When you look back at the last time you used drugs, are you disgusted with yourself? Do you think ‘How could I have done that?’
No, no, I’m proud of what I’ve created. It was radical.
You’re proud of that party moment? [editor: classic shaming moment. Will Charlie bite?]
Of course, why wouldn’t I be? [editor: he does not. Bravo!]
Why would you be?
Because I expose people to magic, I expose them to something they’re never going to otherwise see in their normal, boring lives.
He’s bringing the viewer into his world. This is classic attraction phase material. It requires some chutzpah, to be sure, but pimps will tell you this type of “pot of gold at the end of the rainbow” game works wonders on women.
Your anger and your hate are coming off as erratic to people.
My passion, my passion.
The alpha male does not abide others’ frames. He reframes every interaction to his advantage.
Some people say you’re bipolar. That you’re on two ends of the extreme.
Wow, really? So what’s the cure? Medicine? Make me like them? Not gonna happen.
Excellent DHV.
Notice that the question that got Sheen genuinely angry was the reference to his father disapproving of his lifestyle. That is because to a super alpha like Charlie…
only his dad is the greater alpha.
You may not like Sheen, but he’s right about one thing — the most important thing, in fact: He’s taking hot young pornstars to the islands for fuckathons while you’re a depressing bore going home to ingrate kids and a fat wife yelling at you to mow the lawn.
As Sheen might say, “I’m bi-winning.” Truth is, he is.
Well, until the Hollywood honchos string him up like they did Mel Gibson.
Funny story. I was having dinner with friends — mostly an assortment of West Coast SWPLs — and the Sheen subject came up. One guess which Sheen foible got them the most exorcised. Hint: it wasn’t the pornstars, the drugs, the braggadocio, the craziness or the poor parenting.
The foible in question: that he smokes cigarettes??
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The audio clips I’ve heard make Sheen sound like he’s on a manic-phase binge (or maybe fortified by several rocks of crack).
A number of women on a morning drive show here in L.A. found him strangely likable, even though they knew he was bad news as relationship material.
Confidence is indeed magnetic.
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“I am on a drug. It’s called Charlie Sheen. It’s not available, because if you try it once, you will die.”
Fuck yeah!
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I guess this is why people should follow their dreams instead of becoming office drones. Too bad so many betas were lied to that a higher education and an allegedly high status job were the ways to “duh, winning!”
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My main beef with Charlie Sheen is that I think he is horribly overrated. Two and a Half Men sucks. His best body of work was Denise Richards 12 years ago.
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The foible in question: that he spoke ill of Jews
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anti-semitism ftw
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Chuck and Dad…
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‘One guess which Sheen foible got them the most exorcised. Hint: it wasn’t the pornstars, the drugs, the braggadocio, the craziness or the poor parenting.’
That abortion of a TV show he’s on is my guess, though he has fire-breathing fists so that’s more than enough to make up for it.
There will be a bronze statue of Chuck Sheen in front of the Game Hall of Fame, for that he gets my respect.
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>> One guess which Sheen foible got them the most exorcised.
I’m guessing the history of allegations of domestic violence.
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i thought i was the only one that thought Sheen was making sense…a lot of people say he’s arrogant but i find my self-perception parallels his. lifes too short, why not have illusions of grandeur? seriously…if you dont think your the alpha male, you should at least strive to be. what we choose to do in our personal lives is nobodies business…i too have tigers blood and if i want to snort 7 grams off a pornstars ass, its no ones business but my own…i especially like his answer to the bi polar question. fuck taking anti depressants, that shit is like a chemical castration.
i hope sheen lives to be 100 so he can say “fuck you” to all the jealous betas.
great article chateau
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Awesome. I like the posts like these that analyze alpha behavior/speech.
Dunno much about the whole Charlie Sheen thing. Is he actually smoking crack or just doing blow?
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He called the producer by his real name – Chaim Levine. Heh. That remark cost him his kids.
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Attempting to think like a jew here: This pulling of the antisemitic card can only backfire, IMO.
Unless something comes up to further shock the sensibilities of people, (e.g. some “drunken” rant where he states his view of all the jews he has to work with in Hollywood), the ADL and other media sources chastizing him for calling Chaim by his real name is so transparent, and it is coupled with Sheen being so popular with men ages 18-34, that the anticemitic card is going to loose some of its worth.
It probably is the race card with the most hit points.
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that he was earning so much money
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Same thing as with Mel Gibson. You can’t admit that Jews control Hollywood through and trough.
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I’m pretty sure Charlie Sheen is having a manic episode, but that doesn’t change that a lot of the stuff he says is . . . right on!
I was never attracted to/interested in Mr. Sheen until this meltdown.
Something that doesn’t get mentioned much here is that there are a lot of different “flavors” of alpha. High-powered rich lawyers and doctors leave me cold, no matter how sauve and confident. Boring.
Rebellious witty types though . . . . wow. Pushes all my buttons.
I’m personally going to add “droopy-eyed armless children” to my vocabulary PERMANENTLY.
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Oops, put my email in the wrong field. Editor, can you delete that last?
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The fact that he lives with two 24 year olds
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It’s exercised, not exorcised, unless someone is casting out evil spirits.
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I agree with you, Martin Sheen is a hero; he takes no shit off of anyone. However, his appearance on TV during his interviews make him look as though he has a serious addiction problem. He may be alpha, but we need to clarify which type of alpha. Paul Newman was an alpha, a happily married, donating to charity, alpha. Martin Sheen is an alpha, but he is a careening-thru-relationships, destructive alpha. He made two and half men, he deserves all the credit. But I’m not so sure banging high-priced call girls while hammered and stoned is alpha. Even you admitted, Editor, that Gibson’s last tirade demonstrated his inner beta. Give Sheen another decade of self-indulgent, narcissistic drinking, banging and drugging, and he will wind up just like Gibson, shrieking into a phone at his Russian mail order bride.
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Chateau–
It was the Chaim.
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Hello Sir:
I have a business proposition for you. My name is Umbaca Coopabo and I am a bank from Nigeria. You can substantial profit if you would simply wire me 1000 of your US dollars.
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It is quite amazing that Sheen had custody of his twins in the first place. His ex – the twins’ mother Brook Mueller – is in rehab or something. Anytime a father, especially a guy with a rap sheet and a coke habit like Sheen, gets custody of his kids, that should raise eyebrows.
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Sheen’s foible? Getting married in the first place, of course.
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It’s Alpha compare and contrast time courtesy of the Alpha-Buddah himself – Corey Worthington:
http://roissy.wordpress.com/2009/08/12/umm-sorry/
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G.L. Piggy–
He’s consistently great in it and plays the cocky entertainment industry alpha to a T. It’s the story line which our “concept creator” Chaim is likely most responsible for which has increasingly sucked. It was much better and less feminist kow towing in it’s early years.
Hell Charlie’s been going out with women in their thirties almost exclusively on that show for quite a while now, if not in their fourties. Whereas in real life he parties with mid and early 20s porn stars and other girls.
He buys the coke which can come to as much as 20k for a wild party often involving several girls, but he doesn’t seem to usually pay them, despite tabloid media insinuations to the contrary.
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Aside from his love of “winning”, the best parts were the near constant attempts to shame him.
He swatted that shit aside and wagged his proverbial finger like Dikembe Mutombo.
I think the one chick who interviewed him might have had to change her panties afterward due to intense moistness. That is, if they didn’t bang after the red light went off on the camera.
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foible:
that he was on Alex Jones
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http://articles.latimes.com/2008/dec/19/opinion/oe-stein19
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Sheen’s foible? He crossed the Jewbicon.
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@tram
it has to be a foible that would get SWPLs all red with righteous anger. NOT getting married would make them more gabby than getting married. No… I bet it’s his Alex Jones call in.
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One guess which Sheen foible got them the most exorcised
Idgo with the 9-11 truther/alex jones angle
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Tim–
Gibson’s Russian girlfreind was no mail order bride. he met her on the Hollywood party circuit. She’d had high status prior lovers,don’t recall who.
Gibson did probably pedestalize her in the beginning in a Catholic white knighting sort of way, and she did play him bigtime, getting no doubt intentionally preggers by him to cash in on the high child support, and probably in hopes she could lure him into marrying her. He acted beta in some ways because of these beliefs, and being ass hurt when his image of her was shattered and he realized how much she played him.
Sheen shows little evidence of having that sort of pedestalized view of women, and abundant evidence to the contrary.
Yeah his coke/crack habit is bad and may lead to lots of bad stuff for him. But resorting to mail order brides won’t be one of them.
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Chaim is NOT the producers first name.
FYI it is pronounced like the first syllable of HYMEN — the C is silent — and is a traditional name for Jewish guys.
So Levine gets the dig — he’s being called a Jewish Herb.
Charlie did rant about the script arc. The babe age of the show is a fraud on the audience because the real Hollywood burns through 20-somethings, not 30-somethings.
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He must have it in the genes. Martin Sheen, the father, was quite the party animal, too. The apple didn’t fall far from the tree. If you recall Martin did so much coke and Jack that he had a full blown heart-attack at the ripe old age of 39 while shooting Apocalypse Now. Shooting had to break until he could get back from recovery.
The mirror scene: Martin is well and truly bombed on Jack. A fifth-a-day was his style. FF Coppola stayed instep, too. Hence the loopy script.
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No fault. All true.
All alpha.
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Sheen is right. That show has really started to suck. He’s made gold out of shit piles for that beta producer.
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Great Post! But how does this reconcile with the Chateau’s policy on being Alpha and using prostitutes? Does Charlie Sheen use them in an Alpha or Beta manner? I’m guessing he uses them in an Alpha manner, but that’s just from a hunch.
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Email address goes in the SECOND input box PEOPLE.
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Why do hollywood judens feel the need to change their names?
Chuck Lorre isn’t the only juden that has changed his name to a gentile one
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yeah right, being a truther in hollywood is like going to personal trainer, it’s what you do. I am beginning to think it’s entertainment malpractice to not be an outright dimwitted, America hating, conspiracy theorist if you’re making music or movies.
Whoever wrote it earlier, Sheen crossed the Jewbicon. That’s funny stuff (not that I condone any disparagement thereof or confirm or deny any validity to such stuff). Either that, or he tussled with the finook mafioso in hollywood. Shit on the flag all day long as far as hollywood is concerned but there are somethings people just don’t mess with if they want to work in that town, from what us civilians have heard about that place.
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Winning.
We’re students of the Chateau.
We look to absorb the wisdom espoused by the Host and its sharp regulars, which includes occasional flashes of mad brilliance by GBFM (think Dennis Hopper in Apocalypse Now)).
Incorporating this wisdom into our lives?
Bi-winning.
We win here, we win there.
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btw Platoon was a kick ass movie.
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I think it would be really fun to go out with him.
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Sheen is Great Balls For Manginas. LOLZLLLZLZZL.
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Mu guess: the domestic violence. Those poor women!
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p.s I was wating for thsi post. I’ve thiought Sheen’s rant has been fuckign brilliant. I thin he’s now a true alpha; he’s not living to change himself to any perceived notion of how society thinks he shoudl act.
Either that or he’s high as a kite. But whatever; this is balls out alpha all the fucking way.
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@Obstinance Works
dude, the show was never good. It’s the least funny show anywhere, and always has been.
I mean, I get that there are different tastes for different faces… but that show is just garbage. It’s ultra prolefeed.
Meanwhile, Arrested Development was canceled after 3 short seasons.
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@Science
You’re right. Life is boring without drugs.
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Two words:
Firepower.
WINNING
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@Rollo
Wow, that is awesome.
Best line:
Newswoman: What would you say to other kids who were thinking of partying when their parents are out of town.
Corey: Get me to do it for you.
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A. Nonny.mous
Boo hoo.
One hell of a lot of great sex and exciting times for some minor stuff. Yeah way back he did shoot his first fiance in the arm, but that was an accident and he wasn’t charged.
I’m sick and tired of American feminists vastly over hyping minor so called domestic violence when most of what charged under VAWA shouldn’t even be a crime. Sure serious DV exists, but we’ve had assault and battery crimes for that forever. VAWA should be abolished, forthwith.
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Here’s a pretty good Charlie Sheen parody:
http://www.theunticket.com/fake-charlie-sheen-winning/
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charlie sheen is a sort of caricature of an asshole alpha, and that has allowed him to carve out the usual kind of niche for that kind of guy. cool as far as it goes. but the problem with asshole alphas is that they have no people skills, no empathy, no ability to read or understand others. (or interest in doing so.) that´s the flip side of always setting the frame. and they usually come to a bad end outside their self-created worlds- because in real life you can´t always control the frame. you have to get along with other people, existing systems. inasmuch as sheen just lost a cushy job playing a watered-down, laugh-tracked version of himself for $1.2m a pop, looks like the frame of his hollywood overlords was stronger.
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p.s. the faux pas was the chaim levine comment, obviously.
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His foible is that he’s unrepentant. That’s the whole subtext of the post. Doing drugs. Banging and beating up whores. Getting arrested and having a blast doing it. He’s acts like white trash which is the wrong kind of white people as far as prissy, smug, SWPL’s are concerned.
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Gorb’s got some interesting, well written, long detailed stuff about a hot FB thing he’s got going on the side while PCG is now living with him, which PCG not only knows about and approves, but also really set up.
http://roissy.wordpress.com/2011/02/28/how-to-text-like-an-alpha-male/#comment-238930
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Unapologetic alpha. Say what you want, hate on Two and a Half Men as much as you want, this guy is the epitome of alpha male and displays it calmly on that interview.
What a G!
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What? Did he deny global warming? If you want to get a West Coast SWPL worked up that’s how to do it.
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“Funny story. I was having dinner with friends — mostly an assortment of West Coast SWPLs — and the Sheen subject came up. One guess which Sheen foible got them the most exorcised. Hint: it wasn’t the pornstars, the drugs, the braggadocio, the craziness or the poor parenting.”
L’chaim!
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Rollo Tomassi–
Yeah Corey Worthington, that Australian high school dude who threw a party while his parents were away that 500 people came to and did 20k of damage to neighborhood cars etc. after the police came, and who then refused to be shamed in the least or compliant to the pretty 30 something blond TV news anchor that repeatedly tried to shame him, looks to be a junior Charlie Sheen all right.
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Bill–
Crossing the Jewbicon, particularly in LA, is even more effective.
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“Funny story. I was having dinner with friends — mostly an assortment of West Coast SWPLs — and the Sheen subject came up. One guess which Sheen foible got them the most exorcised. Hint: it wasn’t the pornstars, the drugs, the braggadocio, the craziness or the poor parenting. ”
It would not surprise me that it was “Chaim.”After all, that’s worse than being found at the wheel of a car with a stinking trunk full of bodies.
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blert–
Yeah, we know blert.
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Charlie sheen is the next “washed-up has-been”, you and I know that…he aint a real alpha male model…he aint no clint eastwood, no george clooney, no bruce willis… he “tricking” i.e. using money to sleep with pornstars. he is ulta nervous and anxious in his demeanor, he is on a downfall and hollywood will shew him up and spit him out.
he did not come off as ballsy, he came off as socially inept on the interview. that guy has psychological problems and issues compounded with his drug use.
if he is so alpha why can’t he get women other than porn-stars and escorts anymore? michael douglas is a true alpha to me for ex.
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The attitude is alpha but the drugs and the flakey behaviour are selfish, needy and overly self-indulgent.
Isn’t an alpha trait independence and self-reliance?
Seems that being kicked off his tv show, losing contracts and putting other people’s livelihoods in jeopardy isn’t cool=DLV.
Being a drug addict is DLV.
So the question I pose…how to keep the alpha frame without being the guy people ignore and don’t want to be around.
He may be “too” alpha which becomes selfish, arrogant and unmanageable.
In business there is a book “The Alpha Male Syndrome” which looks at 4 types of Alpha Male behaviour and analyzes how when they go too far, they become counter-productive.
By putting himself out on a drug limb, he’s forcing himself on the Oprah couch and using up his goodwill.
Sheen’s is a cautionary tale of the dangers of when alpha behaviour goes off the rails it is no longer desirable.
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Rollo,
Corey handled that newswoman very well. She really had no right to be lecturing him like that and he made her look foolish for doing so. She lost her cool a bit over it.
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Its understandable that Chiam changed his name. The proprietor of this blog understands this very well since his ancestor gave his surname to be Roissininski at Ellis Island.
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quetal Charlie sheen is the next “washed-up has-been”, you and I know that
agreed
He looks bad now. The drugs,drinks, and fast women have really aged him. He looks like his father’s brother instead of his son.
I wonder how his adult daughter feels about this???
Those little boys are in trouble. They have two addicts for parents. What’s the chances they may grow up and become addicts too? I hate to see children doomed before they even have a chance.
Well I guess things won’t be too bad for them, they’re rich and hopefully they’ll stay blonde 🙂
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being a mentally ill strung out loser is Alpha?
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walawala–
He says he’s gonna sue. He may very well have a good lawsuit. He has a two year contract as of last may. There are no allegations that since he signed that contract he’s failed to show up for work or been unable to work at a high level.
Instead he was fired for insulting the show’s executive producer and lead writer on a radio show interview. Unless there are clauses in his contract that cover drug use or publicity about that, when it hasn’t caused him to not perform his acting role adequately, he’s got a damn strong case. I bet there aren’t such clauses. He’s not some low level actor. He’s making CBS tons of bucks. It’s their no. 1 show.
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Its an important distinction you make, that Alphas are not necessarily admirable, intelligent or principled. Its not enough to be a man, you must be a leader of men.
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@Nat west
Jealous much? You only dream of being 1% as successful as sheen. 30 years of hollywood stardom compared to your pathetic life. lol.
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quetal
They’re all super alphas and so is he. Get real.
Bree Olson, the high ranking porn star who’s living with him, quit being a pornstar for him. He’s supporting her no doubt but not paying her as a hooker. He’s also living with a former model. He calls the two of them his family. Both mid 20s and hot girls. Pretty damn alpha.
He has paid for high end hookers sure. He makes skads of dosh and sometimes they’re easier to get rid of. And gotten tons of very hot non hookers. It seems the 20k figures the tabloid press threw around were what Sheen paid all in for some wild party nights. It also seems it was mostly or entirely for the large amount of coke, with often more than one girl involved.
He’s got a bad coke/crack habit – that he can afford. But yes that’s bad. However he does seem FAR better able to function with it that the vast majority of crack addicts. His ability to perform and not strung out seeming level for example. Yes in the interview he did seem in withdrawl phase though.
I’m not saying he should end this crack shiite. Of course he should.
But he’s also damn alpha.
Could he go down in flames cause of his drug cravings? Yes. Is it certain? No.
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*I’m not saying he shouldn’t end this crack shiite.
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He’s working how he wants. He’s fucking who he wants. He says whatever he wants. He’s doing or not doing as much drugs as he wants. He’s acting exactly like he wants.
Face it, he’s living his life on his terms and not caring about anyone else’s opinions and he’s being very public and totally unapologetic about it. And a majority of the population cannot and will never be able to handle that because they’re sheep who do exactly as they’re told by their masters in the delusional belief that they’ll be taken care of if they follow the rules.
He embodies Steve McQueen’s quote, “I live for myself and I answer to nobody.”
So I’d say that’s pretty fucking alpha, or if it’s not it’ll do until alpha comes along.
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An addict is an addict no matter what the surname.
If you’ve been around them, you can see it in nearly every statement Sheen makes.
Explains why Charlie has had to buy pussy all his life.
Some alpha.
You can’t get more omega than an addict.
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charlie sheen is a sort of caricature of an asshole alpha, and that has allowed him to carve out the usual kind of niche for that kind of guy. cool as far as it goes. but the problem with asshole alphas is that they have no people skills, no empathy, no ability to read or understand others. (or interest in doing so.) that´s the flip side of always setting the frame. and they usually come to a bad end outside their self-created worlds- because in real life you can´t always control the frame. you have to get along with other people, existing systems. inasmuch as sheen just lost a cushy job playing a watered-down, laugh-tracked version of himself for $1.2m a pop, looks like the frame of his hollywood overlords was stronger.
This is an instance where the application of Game trumps The Natural Asshole. You can attune your approach for accute situations that will get the girl horny, but at the same time, haphazard idiocy will not get in the way of good business brains.
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Chuck Lorre’s first name was Charles, not Chaim. So making the casual reference that Lorre used to be called Charles Levine not Chuck Lorre was a BETA MOVE by Sheen.
BETA. Why? Because Sheen picked a fight with a guy who was way, WAAAAY down the totem pole in fame and power, in the outside world (regardless of Hollywood). It made Sheen look CRAZY.
Sheen went from Alpha A-hole to looking like a pathetic, Beta nutcase (see Mel Gibson). Sheen looks too thin, too sick, not erratic, too uncontrolled (sign of beta weakness), and too crazy. Sheen WAS Alpha, he’s now a pathetic, laughed at Beta. Late night guys ridicule him. He’s a joke. He’s over.
Sheen could have called Lorre (in private) all sorts of anti-semitic names and it would have had no effect. Even if it leaked out and was widely confirmed. Women don’t care about anything BUT ALPHA.
However, Sheen’s constant call-ins to radio shows, complaining (about a non-famous guy few have heard of), erratic performance, “White trash moments” (kids hauled off), and constant boasts about “winning” came off as pathetic Beta type behavior. Instead of assured Alpha mastery.
Alphas don’t pick fights with Beta figures (Lorre). They don’t fight at all, unless absolutely forced to it. Being Alpha means you are the master, not struggling for status like a beta orbiter. Sheen came off jealous, petty, and spoiled in a feud against his show’s producer. Which is BETA.
[Editor: Whiskey you make good points. I was looking for the unobvious angle to the Sheen story. Some of the particulars of his outbursts have been alpha moves, even if the sum total of his bevavior was beta.
Is Lorre really way below Sheen? I thought he was something of a big name TV producer. Sheen and Lorre probably had it out at one time and this was Sheen’s way to get under Lorre’s skin.]
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Hmm, maybe in LA. But you can totally get away with that in San Francisco, and in Seattle and Portland to some extent. And in Olympia, of course, you can take it even farther.
As a guy who lives in the midst of West Coast SWPLs, somehow Jewish media execs just don’t seem like sacred cows. But LA is its own place, and I haven’t been there in many years.
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Charlie is pretty funny
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False. Sheen = ultimate provider beta.
Millionaire junkie, buys whores Bentleys and pays their bills to keep them in house, gets clowned by ex-wife in court because he can’t control her, pays through the nose in child support, can’t handle his highs and loses world’s easiest job; the list goes on and on.
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@Nathaniel West,
alpha is as alpha does. Still loving how all the worthless comments are tagged “Doug1”. Makes it easy to ignore them. I don’t know if that’s auto-moderation or what, but it’s cool.
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If you’re going to watch TV for alpha role models, try “How I Met Your Mother”! Funny as shit too.
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Schmoe
Oh right. We all know your comments here have been so memorable, so valuable, and so alpha. Right?
Uh, no.
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I’m so tired of people and their asinine “THIS IS WHAT A REAL ALPHA IS” comments.
You sound like a woman with a 486 point checklist for her ideal mate.
Shut the fuck up.
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Doug1 said: “He buys the coke which can come to as much as 20k for a wild party often involving several girls, but he doesn’t seem to usually pay them, despite tabloid media insinuations to the contrary.”
Chickz is innit 4 the blow and the Charlie.
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And…
It’s Chaim time on the what-what-too-much-for-the-SWPLs? question.
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Give me a fuckin break. Of course he’s an alpha. He has infinite money, social capital and fame. He’s a mega-alpha who could drop out of his life and into yours and out-alpha you at every turn. If he’s not alpha, who is? The tennis instructor who lays 10 new chicks a year, half of them MILFs is but Sheen isn’t? Sheen has a taste for threesomes and crack so that’s what he manifests but if he wanted to he could accomplish whatever any of your other examples of alpha could.
He’s even more of an alpha because he truly doesn’t give a shit. Saying whatever the hell you want, pissing away a $1.8 million-per-episode gig because you just can’t be bothered to “play nicely” and then flying to the Caribbean with your two girlfriends and your ex-wife!!! is alpha, period.
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Charlie Sheen is the man we’d all be if we were Charlie Sheen.
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Sheen pops feminist fantasies like a little girls’ soap bubbles pop on a windy day.
This is why they hate him.
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Any man who boned Denise Richards is alpha enough for me!
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Great post BUT don’t forget why Gibson tanked – anti-Semitic remarks. That’s death in shoebiz. That’s happened to ultra idiot John Galliano – and he’s a fag.
If Sheen starts insulting Jews then, bye bye.
(Like me, but I’m not anti-Semitic).
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”Of course he’s an alpha. He has infinite money, social capital and fame.”
He’s a rich guy who pays pros to fuck and whose wife slapped a case on him when she got mad.
Thinking money alone is alpha = niggerthink
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SWPL’s? The “Anti-Sematism”, without question.
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Whiskey again posts his christian beta shaming language at true alphas. Every comment of yours just screams social conservative beta. Real alphas live life on their own terms, they don’t conform to societal norms, they transcend them. Beta losers like you have rules that you must live by. Alphas don’t play by your rules or anyone elses.
Late night hosts mock him? that would bother an insecure beta like you, but an alpha doesn’t give a shit or even pay attention to some comedian playing middle america sheeple like you.
Pathetic christian manginas like you should stick to posting on Palin’s facebook.
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Florian:
You think he paid his ex-wife to come along with his current girlfriends for team sex in the Caribbean? She only flew back probably after somebody stateside called her and told her how fucking bad it would look, but the fact is she’s obviously still hooked on the guy.
It’s pure speculation if and/or how she’s being compensated but Bree Olsen could get a lot more money other ways if that’s all she’s in to. As for occasional paying of pros, hiring someone to cut your grass doesn’t mean you don’t own a lawnmower; Sheen might pay for sex sometimes but he clearly doesn’t have to. Frankly he’s likely got very high drive and is a sex addict and can’t be bothered most of the time to even put up with the pretense of “dates”.
I’m the last person to think money=alpha. Money lets him get to the end goal much quicker, which is a sex life better than 99.99% of the planet. Just because he uses money to mobilize his prodigious sex life doesn’t change the fact he has the raw alpha tools to accomplish whatever an alpha is capable of without that money.
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Lorre’s the show-runner, Sheen’s boss, and possibly a future billionaire. Not exactly a “low man” on the totem poll. Even though the “star” system persists, producers wield a great deal of power. They’re not necessarily interested in being famous, as in “recognized by the man on the street,” but they do care about what their peers think, which is part of the reason why an Academy Award is such a big deal and a People’s Choice Award doesn’t mean jack shit.
As for Sheen “alpha or beta,” he’s the guy who famously said he doesn’t pay women to sleep with him. He pays them to go away. Money buys status — leadership over other men. There are famous guys with entourages, and their orbiters laugh at everything they say. Get on a chartered jet: “I bet you the stewardess will blow me if I want,” and the fake rapport laughter kicks, “haha, you’re SO funny!” Look at Jones’ enabling behavior: “you looked better than I’ve ever seen you.” Irrational self-confidence can prove useful to a point, but eventually that bubble will burst.
Even with the usual limitations, I thought this blog defined alpha as the number and quality of women willing to fuck you, which is too monistic a view. In fact, there’s a suite of characteristics. Charlie Sheen is and always has been a “bad boy,” everyone saw it as early as FERRIS BUELLER’S DAY OFF.
As for the Jew-baiting, it’s not unlike the people who constantly say Barrack HUSSEIN Obama. It’s low.
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Hating Jews is so alpha.
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”Whiskey again posts his christian beta shaming language at true alphas.”
Sheen has nothing to be ashamed of and should live life as he chooses. The fact remains however that he lacks poise and self control and is regularly used by women. He doesn’t seem to care, so its not really important. Doesn’t warrant condemnation or praise.
Douchebag he may be, but a Hollywitz example of an alpha would probably be George Clooney. Fucks top notch quim with alarming regularity, works media so he only gets good press, has never starred in a good film but convinces critics he’s a great fucking guy, etc.
Sheen in contrast is a train wreck. If you think ex-wives, gluehead habits, profligate spending on women is ”alpha”, you have serious problems.
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i boned his non-pornstar goddess when we were in high school
how does that go again… younger, hotter, tighter?
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“OH NO HE DOES COCAINE”
“THAT’S NOT ALPHA!”
Give me a fucking break.
So many fucking haters in these comments.
Your Chateau keys should be confiscated.
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Tim,
I agree with you, Martin Sheen is a hero; he takes no shit off of anyone. However, his appearance on TV during his interviews make him look as though he has a serious addiction problem. He may be alpha, but we need to clarify which type of alpha. Paul Newman was an alpha, a happily married, donating to charity, alpha. Martin Sheen is an alpha, but he is a careening-thru-relationships, destructive alpha. He made two and half men, he deserves all the credit. But I’m not so sure banging high-priced call girls while hammered and stoned is alpha. Even you admitted, Editor, that Gibson’s last tirade demonstrated his inner beta. Give Sheen another decade of self-indulgent, narcissistic drinking, banging and drugging, and he will wind up just like Gibson, shrieking into a phone at his Russian mail order bride.
Exactly. I’m sitting here thinking, “This guy is considered an alpha??? Guys look up to THAT?”.
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Charlie Sheen makes ginas tingle. Watch the ABC interview, By the end the chick interviewing him looks like she can barely contain herself from jumping on his cock.
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“OH NO HE DOES COCAINE”
“THAT’S NOT ALPHA!”
Doing cocaine isn’t a big deal is the point. If it becomes a big deal you’re something of a fag who can’t handle himself in the presence of witnesses. That’s the beta part of it.
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Chuck Sheen is cool.
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the bits at the end are gold:
twat: what would you say to other kids who are thinking of partying when their parents are out of town?
corey: get me to do it for you
and
twat: well we’ve gotta go but i suggest you go away and take a good long hard look at yourself
corey: i have. everyone has. they love it.
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So Charlie Sheen opened up a twitter account on Tuesday and has a million followers already. You can write it off and say people are just enjoying watching the train wreck, but I don’t think it’s just that.
It’s also due to what Chateau pointed out here. People are tired of modern men groveling, behaving and apologizing, or, being beta. Even though he is unhinged, it’s nice to see a guy rant and rave against polite society and not apologize for it. That’s the key. I’m tired of men apologizing for being men. Enough is enough, it’s been long overdue to push back against the feminists, their enablers, and the politically correct.
Charlie, whatever you do, don’t apologize.
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Gotta love all these lines. The fact he came up with this stuff off the cuff while either cracked up or in withdrawal is pretty genius.
His comments about the producers are funny but taken altogether are pretty weak. Why pick a fight with a bunch of producers if you believe you are already winning?
The fact he caved into marriage with several nutjobs and had kids with them overrides a lot of his more positive traits as well. He had a better mindset when he was younger and used Fleiss’ girls to keep his wallet clean and remain true to the single man’s dream.
That said, when a guy has a million opportunities with women he’s allowed to have a few fumbles. Most guys I know make dumb moves with the one or two opportunities they get their entire life, then continue to pay the price their entire life.
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Navy SEALs… playing a thinly disguised version of himself again.
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I’d be curious to read it. Any link? A google search brings up a million hits that all seem to contain quotes, not full transcript.
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Yes, you win the WHAT award, for outstanding achievement in being as useful as the commenter WHAT.
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“Bi-polar? I’m Bi-winning!” –Charlie Sheen
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WHAT? I can’t hear you. WHAT?
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I think what’s mainly going on here is that women – except for the wild partying hooker/porn star type (my faves) – hate this guy. He represents the deep-seated fear in women that any guy could suddenly have a “mid-life crisis” and say fuck it all – and the even deeper-seated fear, which Hymowitz’ article backs up, that many of us are already saying it, and more could tomorrow if we take inspiration from Charlie. And its tough for a guy in a relationship to defend Charlie publicly, or even privately against his wife or girlfriend.
I should note that I frequently describe myself as “a low-rent, East Coast version of Charlie Sheen”, and as a “guy going through a mid-life crisis, except without the crisis, since the crisis is being stuck in a suffocating marriage when you really wanna be like me.” So, I’m in tune to the vibe guys like us can get from women. In fact, I get that lousy vibe almost every day from my cunty boss.
Anyway, contrary to many of you, I don’t think the “Chaim” comment had much traction, and he did a good job of explaining it on Piers Morgan. Howard Stern had him on since then, and gave Charlie kudos for the way he conducted himself in the interview on his show, and I haven’t heard a single one of my fellow Jews turn against Charlie for it. Of course, I can’t rule out that some big media people have turned on him because of it, but I’m not sure he’s really being picked on given what he’s been doing; its definitely a story.
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EMILIOOOOOOOOOooo
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I’m shocked he has a career. I’m shocked he EVER had a career. I really don’t see the appeal. He’s never been a big box office draw, really. I just don’t get it. He was mildly interesting on Spin City and basically does the same jokes about himself as a tv character on the shitty show he does now. Awful shows, awful movies.
He should cash in and get a reality show. He’s famous for being famous.
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Charlie Sheen has money, fame and likely a genetic disposition that enables him to partake of the smiley snow without suffering too many adverse affects.
Well, he’s not going to be out on the street. But he does seem to be suffering quite a few adverse effects.
Overall, it is pretty unquestionable that Sheen is still an alpha (both HSS and HMV), but he also seems to be clearly on the downslope.
Mostly agree with Whiskey and Florian.
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Context is everything. In the circumstances, a lot of his lines come across as try hard.
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Sheen’s mad as a bag of spiders, probably Bipolar. Two and a Half Men is a filthy show, an extended attack on Western civilization, everyone involved in it should be beaten half-way to the death they so richly deserve before being hanged to the nearest lamp post. Funniest shit on TV, though.
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“You don’t pay hookers for sex. You pay them to leave.”–Charlie Sheen
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Does he have any teeth left? would anybody be fucking him if he wasn’t famous?
actually, I think he’s in some sort of mental illness episode – he seems manic.
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Charlie Sheen is an interesting case. Here’s a guy who was in Platoon, Wall Street, Young Guns, Eight Men Out, legit movie star roles. Then he did Major League and Hot Shots, comedies, but still pretty big roles. And then it’s almost as if he made a conscious decision to give up serious acting so he could concentrate on doing coke and banging whores.
Maybe he did plan it that way. The Two and a Half men thing is pretty remarkable; getting paid a few million to basically act like yourself on a mediocre sitcom that happens to be incredibly popular.
One thing is for sure. I give props for the interview. It’s definitely alpha not to come to heel like most celebrities do in these situations. I especially applaud him for not letting himself be tagged with one of the bullshit psychological diagnoses that gets applied to everyone who doesn’t play by the rules.
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@The Man Who Was…
Context is everything indeed. If me or you tried to pull this, it would be try hard.
For him, it’s the way he is. I have no doubt he actually believes what he says, which is awesome. To have that much confidence in yourself and to literally not give a fuck at all, nah that aint try hard man. He gets what he wants, he does what he wants.
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I’m glad Roissy likes Sheen, because I do too. Fuck the bourgeois middle-class American beaten-down-dog sensibility. Charlie is going balls-out and I think that’s awesome.
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Hymowitz is back again…
“Why Are Men Angry”
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2011-02-28/why-are-men-angry-manning-up-author-kay-hymowitz-explains/
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hmmm said: “Does he have any teeth left? would anybody be fucking him if he wasn’t famous?
actually, I think he’s in some sort of mental illness episode – he seems manic.”
Well, he’s fun the watch talkin’ sh*t.
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collegeslacker said: “For him, it’s the way he is. I have no doubt he actually believes what he says, which is awesome. To have that much confidence in yourself and to literally not give a fuck at all, nah that aint try hard man. He gets what he wants, he does what he wants.”
Yes, you got it. He’s not manic, he’s Charlie Sheen. Period.
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I’ve always liked Charlie Sheen and I’m enjoying his carousel of crazy.
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Chas has gotten frighteningly haggard looking to the point of grandpa face at only 45.
His father (Martin Sheen) aged very well (and I’m sure Daddy did some drugs too), but, Charlie is on some hard-core stuff…and it shows. He looks like a shell of his former self.
Elvis was NEVER happy….he was terrified of the dark and terrified of insomnia and he lived his last day having his heart go out on him while he was pushing out a constipated turd (many prescription drugs destroy your organs and make you constipated), and he died that way…
I hope Charlie cleans up.
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Why Charlie Sheen is making Beta moves when he should have STAYED Alpha (he WAS Alpha, his moves made him BETA):
Chuck Lorre got under his skin with show-ending “vanity cards” including “If Charlie Sheen outlives me, I’ll never forgive myself.” Lorre, a guy 99.99% of the population has never heard of, got Sheen with that dig and a few others to self-destruct.
Charlie Sheen before this stuff was Alpha. But being made fun of is Beta. It means late night guys sense a weakness like wolves, and attack. You can’t go on Twitter, or radio shows, or TV, unless its a pub tour for a book/movie and you make robotic publicity points, and not get to be Beta.
Clooney hit that spot a bit, in his Oscar speech about how actors desegregated America, and a few other pompous blowhard ego trip statements. South Park and others ridiculed him. He learned his lesson, he now says nothing. He just “IS George Clooney.” Same with Brad Pitt.
Let’s review: Sheen didn’t have people make jokes about him, didn’t suffer ridicule (from Beta guys, who only DO IT when there is no risk), when he simply “WAS Charlie Sheen,” no matter knives to wives throats on Christmas Day, or stabbing allegations by an ex-girlfriend, or trashing a hotel room while naked and stoned, with a naked hooker in the closet calling 911. He just “was” and shrugged. Women loved him for it.
Now, Women find the taint of Beta. Alphas don’t chest beat, they ARE. Alphas don’t boast about fists of fire, Tiger Blood, Adonis DNA, and F-18s. You don’t see Clooney or Pitt or DiCaprio do that. If you do it, by definition you are Beta. Its acting like a Pro Wrestler Buffoon, without the body.
Sheen makes his money off being that Alpha A-hole who is aloof but perhaps tame-able. He’s wrecked it now by feuding with a guy who his female fans couldn’t pick out of a lineup.
Bottom line: copy Brad Pitt and George Clooney. They put a ton of effort into being effortless. [Clooney for years was just a bit player TV actor, best known for being Rosemary Clooney’s nephew.]
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Let me add two things, first thanks Roissy for kind words.
Secondly, 53s is incorrect. Alphas more than any other man plays by extremely rigid rules (set by Women) to maintain Alpha status (with women). A guy like say, Sean Payton (Saints Coach) or UT coach Mack Brown can be an Alpha male to men, and have zero appeal to women. A “woman’s Alpha” must AT ALL TIMES generate desire by women. Period.
This means he can’t do as he wants. He cannot get fat and lazy. He cannot express true opinions about politics, HBD, or gender realism. He cannot dress like a slob. He cannot afford to feud with people (lower than himself). He cannot afford nerdy enthusiasms. He cannot slouch and be comfortable.
You never see Clooney, or DiCaprio, or Pitt, or Keanu Reeves photographed slouching around in T Shirts and shorts, or doing twitter pics of girlfriends (like Ashton Kutcher with Demi Moore) or such. They venture out, into Paparazzi land, they are elegantly dressed in expensive casual wear or tailored suits. They don’t scratch their ass or fart on camera. For Clooney and Pitt, who were bit TV actors and did all that stuff, slouching around in jeans and T-Shirts, the change was deliberate and total. They remade themselves into glamour and high value excitement. Pitt in particular NEVER says ANYTHING. Because Twitter and Facebook and stuff like that is for emo girls and beta males.
Both men built themselves up from being basically, variations of Scott Baio, into legends of Alphaness. And they did it by rigid adherence to rules generating female desire. Anything about themselves (lounging around playing pickup B-ball games on Sundays) that didn’t generate female desire was ruthlessly expunged. And it was built up gradually. As both men learned/discovered the rules of Alpha-ness.
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Sheen has openly appeared on national TV (in the same interview as described in this post) in the past few days as living in a harem with two beautiful young women who adore him (the directly paid stuff is just a side show that has to be considered “value neutral” on the alpha-beta scale). He’s done the Chateau a service by making the MLTR lifestyle choice more mainstream as an option for a newer generation.
I’m surprised the Chateau chose the part of this TV interview that dealt with the cocaine use as the main indicator of his being alpha. But, yes, I was waiting for and expecting this post to happen.
Sheen needs to openly say that Chaim’s scripts for Two and Half Men were kowtowing to feminism more and more and that, for instance, he didn’t like being played for a fool and a liar by having his character dating women his own age in the show.
Sheen now needs to get more focused in his knowledge and elocution of anti-feminism and game. He needs to read this blog, just as Julian Assange needs to and just as Ace of Spades needs to (Ace of Spades is a top conservative blogger who just wrote an excellent post about its female “conservatives” not the male conservatives who most oppose the sexual revolution, prostitution, abortion, etc).
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I’m surprised that you all think Sheen is the epitome of alpha.
Sheen is a narcissistic, coke-addled, washed-up actor (not a very good one, at that) who’s going through a full-blown psychotic meltdown in public view. What’s alpha about that?
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Ace of Spades, without having read this blog apparently, just wrote a good first attempt to show how feminism is barking up the wrong tree complaining how the patriarchy didn’t like the sexual revolution because it wanted to keep women in the kitchen, etc.
Ace explained that free sex (and easily paid for sex) lowered the value of women in general, making it easier to date them and less likely a man would feel he has to marry one.
So, logically, even a conservative man who wants a traditional woman, would still support a system that would make all women feel less entitled (which is what comes from having an artificially raised sexual market value).
This explains why 100,000 old Italian women marched a few weeks ago against Berlusconi giving that 17 year old gifts.
They said “He lowers women’s value” (technically, they said “dignity” but they meant “sexual market value”).
Charlie Sheen can help a new generation keep the lid on the attempts of the Chaim manginas to artificially raise the value of American women (which makes them harder and more unpleasant to date).
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Jerry “He needs to read this blog”
maybe he can be the first (and last)
commenter on your “Veterans Abroad Election 2012”
blog
(why don’t you link to it?)
“in the past few days as living in a harem with two beautiful young women who adore him”
why aren’t you admonishing him
for not going after HiIQ LoCount PseudoVirgins?
hypocrite
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I don’t watch TV anymore.
Never seen the show.
Was in the Biz once and I can tell you, if he hated the show and wanted to get out of it the only way to do that is get fired and the only way to get fired from a successful moneymaking show is to do something publicly that brings into effect the ” Moral turpitude ” clause that’s in every SAG and AFTRA contract. It’s bulletproof, the Union will not move for reinstatement on that clause, it’s the only one they won’t touch. Dig the history of the concept:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_turpitude
If he wanted out more than he wanted more money he won. Plus he might win the lawsuit, win-win.
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Anybody with a loved one with bipolar disorder knows EXACTLY what’s going on here. Everyone is “super alpha” on a manic phase – filled with fearlessness, grandiosity, and lack of concern for others. Everything and everyone else is a prop in their sublime show. And then it all collapses, the groupies and leeches disappear and the family members are the only ones left to clean up the mess.
The only reason Charlie Sheen isn’t dead now is because of his father’s name and the nepotism it conferred. From a young age he’s had handlers and PR people to follow him and clean up after him. For everyone else, the state he’s in now is neither sustainable nor enviable. The price is far too high.
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If he was a homeless guy or some other low-status male his behavior would be alpha. But for a millionaire movie star it is NOT alpha to have a public meltdown and thump your chest about it. Also, see the recent comments he’s made to his ex. Definitely not a cool indifferent self-satisfied person, definitely not alpha.
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@Old Guy
That was a brilliant comment about how this may have all been a planned move to get out of a contract.
I can only imagine the number of young American women who will be trying to contact Sheen now about the possibility of becoming part of his harem.
I personally know about half a dozen young women who would opt for that in a heart beat (free rent in Hollywood as a bonus).
I’m sure everyone reading this knows hot young women who are writing to Sheen right now about joining the harem that was just highlighted on the news.
Sure, it looks like a meltdown, but that only served to get attention in the “only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about” way.
George Clooney dates women 30+ doesn’t he? In “Up in the Air” he accepted a script that made him look like a loser who’s early 20s colleague openly said of him “You’re too old” and who was dumped by a 40 year old married woman after a brief affair. I would still call Clooney a top alpha, but he’s letting feminist scriptwriters float his boat a bit and I’d just as soon be at one of Sheen’s parties.
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As a Jew, let me say it’s lame for any Jew to criticize someone for using a person’s original, Jewier name. Jews often call famous Jews by their original names (“Robert Zimmerman” instead of Bob Dylan). Any Jew calling Charlie Sheen an antisemite for calling Chuck Chaim is pulling the same shit blacks do with the word “nigger”. A black person can use the word and everything’s fine. A white person uses it and he’s worse than Hitler.
“Why do hollywood judens feel the need to change their names?”
Why does anyone feel the need to change their name? Why did Charlie Sheen’s father change his last name from Estevez to Sheen? Why did Norma Jeane Baker change her name to Marlyn Monroe?
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If this shitbrained gash had her way, men like Charlie Sheen would be taken out and shot:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/04/opinion/04holmes.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all
And this disgusting misandry is supposed to go down easy.
The elite west is a feminist shithole. And the muzzies are even worse.
The great powers have been at peace for too long. Time for some action.
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Whiskey has a point.
Sheen used to be a super alpha. Now he’s a joke. He’ll still get loads of poon, women being what they are, on the way down, but he’s a funny wreck now. I don’t think he’s crazy though, he’s just another junkie.
It’s a strange world where he’s the super alpha, and not someone like Sal Giunta, the first living Medal of Honour winner since Vietnam
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College Basketball Star Suspended for having premarital sex:
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/cougars/51348870-88/davies-byu-team-wednesday.html.csp
Real Mormons are Manginas
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http://hooniverse.com/2011/03/02/last-call-so-many-hairballs-edition/
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Why is the Christian clown Huckabee getting paid by Fox News to badly hurt the Republicans?
Here he is condemning men who have babies out of wedlock:
http://www.examiner.com/tv-in-national/fox-news-mike-huckabee-attacksnatalie-portman-for-pregnancy-out-of-wedlock-1
No mention of the Divorce 2.0 Industry. Fox News is taking everything from the conservative female point of view (as usual). They see Natalie as a scab who is devaluing their marriage market value by not getting married herself.
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Sheen’s ex-wife apparently belligerently demanded in the agreement reached Monday that a monitor be with the kids whenever they’re with him.
http://www.examiner.com/celebrity-headlines-in-national/charlie-sheen-s-custody-deal-with-brooke-mueller-is-on-and-then-off-again
Then, when Sheen spoke out about the agreement, the wife’s belligerent lawyers apparently advised her to say “the deal’s off”.
This legal nonsense is killing marriage as an institution.
And then we have morons like Huckabee and his boss, Rupert Murdoch, foolishly acting like Republican and independent males will agree with them about “how terrible it is that people aren’t getting married”.
Do Murdoch and Huckabee really have room temperature IQs?
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Also talking about ones-self is a little to0 introvert to be alpha…
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A Republican congressman is pushing an anti-upskirting law that would require all cell phone manufacturers to make a shutter sound when a digital photo is taken.
The law has the word “Predator” in it because using that word always gets laws passed in the US.
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The dishonest Republican uses the word predator in his new anti-upskirt law because he wants to pretend that it’s supposed to stop child porn when everybody knows it’s supposed to be a start in the direction of not only making it a felony for a man to take a photo of an adult woman from under her skirt but to eventually make “possession” of an upskirt photo illegal.
It’s already hazardous to enter the US by plane without first deleting pirate films and even family photos.
So much for the Tea Party Republicans’ ideal of individual liberty.
Sure, they will say that this type of legislation defends the “Constitutional rights” of women to have their privacy.
The point being that women, if allowed to dominate any political party or political movement, will always manipulate things to give them more advantage at a cost to men. <- make that a maxim
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Anonymous
The last thing the West needs is more single moms. A man who spawns illegitimate kids is a reckless fool who should carry rubbers. Never trust a woman’s claims to be on the pill
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It just keeps getting better and better.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technology/2011/03/charlie-sheen-twitter-guinness-world-record.html
Now in addition to all his other income streams that immoral beta looser cokehead has the fastest growing Twitter account ever, and he’s going to make a boatload of money off of it if he makes the slightest effort to directly shill products in still pics with short text messages instead of working long hours under a contract to indirectly shill products on a crappy but popular TV show.
All he has to do is be outlandish to get attention and that doesn’t seem to be a problem. He just says and does crazy shit, the media reacts, then the media reacts to the media’s initial reaction. Lather, rinse, repeat until death or he gets bored with it.
So now he’s going to be able to make money by just living the rest of his life as a full-time wastrel. What a beta chump.
What he needs is a nice cubicle farm job so he can afford to redo his wardrobe, get a gym membership, put a down payment on a small condo in an up and coming metropolitan neighborhood, and learn some game.
Instead he’s resigned to a life of fucking 10s, being richer than nine yards up a bull’s ass, doing or not doing as much coke (or whatever drug money can buy – like finely ground emerald powder or Ibogaine) as he wants, traveling around the world anywhere at any time, and fulfilling his slightest and strangest whim no matter how ridiculous, petty or silly. “Sorry, Middle America” indeed.
Poor misguided fool. Maybe some of the überalpha moralists in the house can set him straight.
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Given recent developments, I’d say it’s every straight American man’s duty to review the Sheen sequence in Ferris Bueller’s Day Off. This is how porn families get started:
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To the idiot clowns and trolls who call Sheen beta:
The only reason to be alpha is to have fun, do whatever you want, live without shame and fuck hot young women, preferably with lots of threesomes.
Check, check, check and check (with bonus points). Smells like Winning!
Now please haters, leave the Chateau and go back to your caves where you can intellectually masturbate in your empty bed about what makes him beta so you feel better about your mediocre self. Like he said, you just can’t process it. You never will. So just sit back.
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Roissy, once again you parallel my own views.
All of the naysayers need to stop with the bi-polar accusations.
I’ve seen bi-polar up close. When you have an episode, along with the fun, you will see an increased paranoia.
And, besides that, the high you are seeing in him is the same high that many of our greatest artists did their creation.
The masses may bring him down, but it isn’t because they are worried for him. It is like a half-assed version of king of the hill. None of the masses are trying to get on the pedestal, but the moment someone gets on the pedestal, everyone reaches up to pull him down.
Charlie Waffles has become an inspiration for me. Live life to the fullest, anyone who thinks poorly of it can fuck off.
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This has been a surreal week.
A big chunk of my RSS feed (Instapundit, Ace of Spades, Eric S. Raymond and Roissy) are converging on the same topic.
Open Source deity and genius polymath Eric S. Raymond calls Roissy a “ferociously intelligent PUA blogger.”
http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=3000
ESR calling you ferociously intelligent is akin to Ray Allen calling you a great 3 point shooter. High praise indeed.
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Charlie is the man! The only mistake he made was poking at the jews in Hollywood and when it happens not even the enormous amount of money he is making for them is enough to get him off the hook. Plus it’s perfect thing to take away all the attention from what’s going on in D.C.
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@slumber_j
You know, I haven’t watched that movie in over a decade but that scene really parallels the moralist vs. amoralist/immoralist debate going on here.
On one side are the people arguing that Sheen should, for whatever reason, follow their version of the “moral” alpha rules and that would make him a true alpha. They are the sister in the clip complaining about how her brother should follow the rules like everyone else because his getting away with skipping school and living like he wants to live is unfair and wrong. So wrong in fact that she called the pigs on him and then unfairly got pinched for doing the right thing.
On the other side, ironically voiced by Sheen himself in the clip, are the people arguing that the moralists should essentially mind their own business. They could risk ditching school too and follow their own rules by going their own way, like Ferris does in the movie.
They could spend a little more time dealing with themselves and reality as it exists in fact and not in their idealizations, and a little less time worrying about the morality of what the real life Sheen does, even if that would be irritating because Sheen “gets away with it” by breaking their rules that define the ideal alpha.
Thanks for the interesting clip.
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Charlie Sheen is alpha and lives an amazing life.
That being said, he is proof of Roissy’s claim that the rise of the post-modern relationships will lead to downfall of civilization.
Will Charlie Sheen continue to have a great life? Almost certainly. He will, however, create nothing of real value with that life.
Asshole alphas like Charlie Sheen and Tucker Max do amazing things for themselves, and ONLY themselves. They do not have the incentive (or possibly the ability if they are as truly devoid of empathy and forgiveness as they appear) to create the large organizations that allow our civilization to function, yet they receive sexual rewards far greater than those who do create those organizations will.
The asshole alphas who get these incredible sexual rewards will never create any invention like the steam engine, electric motor, transistor, or communication sattelites. They will not create industrial powerhouses like General Electric or insitutions like the American legal system that allow those inventions to flurish. Their children will not grow up to be happy and productive members of society. And yet they will have the most desirable women fall all over them. Why on earth would any talented man make the sacrifices to create these amazing things when they can just be selfish and be far more greatly sexually rewarded?
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And it’s Florian for the win.
I totally agree with you.
Sheen’s a loser who stumbled into the #1 rated on TV. It’s not great television but it pays the big bucks. The WashPost says he earns $3m per episode. Not bad for what’s really just a part-time job.
He does TV because his movie career tanked. Everytime he took a role that was intended to showcase his acting chops, he got his ass kicked by a real actor.
Take Wall Street. Oliver Stone is still amazed that Michael Douglas walked away with that movie when it supposed to be about a young Bud Fox doing right his dad (played by Charlie’s real life father). 20 years later, no one remembers anything about the movie not related to Gordon Gekko.
Charlie, meanwhile, is living his white trash life, Hollywood version. About all that makes him remotely alpha is his refusal to apologize for being an asshole. Which I admire and respect.
But the clips of his interview I see looping on the TV at the gym show a guy whose career has finally jumped the shark.
The next time we hear from Charlie, he’ll be starring in his own pay-per-view porn flick.
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Here’s Sheen making ten grand per tweet with the babe Bree, promoting milk (“The Milk Tweet Was Free”):
http://www.tmz.com/2011/03/03/charlie-sheen-chocolate-milk-bree-olson-porn-star-first-twitter-picture-farm-ray-broguiere/
Can I quit my day job to do this as well?
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Xsplat,
I see you’re still thinking about me.
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Fuck that. Anti-semitism?
What a typical bunch of distracting political correctness. Fuck the Jews and their hypersensitive crap. Guess what, Jews! You were a small minority of the great Holocaust… you know, that thing that started in Russia? Oh, and it did not end until well into the 60s over there.
So fuck off. Everybody gets mass-slaughtered, and there is no chosen people, you deluded fuckniggers. You are nothing different from anyone except that you think you should have the right to impose supremacy while being pitied for your past.
Haha. Fuck you.
Jews are hated, just like other plain old white people are hated. They just happen to be from a voluntary belief-based group with a reputation for going where they weren’t invited, then overstaying their nonexistent welcome. Blacks are hated, and within every group of them, or brown and yellow people (both also hated as a group), are subdivisions of hate.
Jews. Fuck you. You are not a people, you are a religion populated with the same mongrels the rest of the world enjoys. And you don’t get more sympathy from me because you took advantage of people who were down, who then tossed some of the people you left behind into ovens after you snuck off with the loot.
Don’t apologize for anti-semitism. The ones who lived had a BIG hand in killing the ones that died.
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@Doug1 Re: Domestic violence
I’m somewhat curious what constitutes minor domestic violence vs. serious abuse to you… what seems minor, excusable, and just “him keeping the upper hand” inevitably becomes major and can kill a woman’s spirit. It’s true women need to be brought and kept off the high horse, but I don’t think a man with true control needs to do it by force.
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Charlie Sheen seems messy to me. Definitely not an alpha in my book… when I think alpha I think someone in control of their image. But the fact that he has gotten so many hot, desirable (albeit of questionable taste) women to commit to him speaks contrary to my opinion so who knows.
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The thing I don’t get about the “Jews control Hollywood” controversy, from both sides of the issue is how utterly ahistorical it is. Jews created Hollywood (at a time when many business paths were unavailable to them), built it into what it is, and now suddenly it’s an issue that they “control it”?
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Biq question… was he always this way? Or was it a sudden transformation?
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That can’t compare to you winning the Chaim Levine Turd Award.
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Firepower.
WINNING
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Charlie Sheen once pitched me his illustrated book of poetry. Seriously.
I was working for a major publisher but in a completely inappropriate field, but his agent insisted that he knew that and still wanted to have a meeting. He showed up with his illustrator buddy and for a half an hour tried to sell me on publishing his poetry. He insisted I keep a copy of the manuscript to read.
I don’t remember much about the poems, except they were awful. But the one poem that was indelibly etched in my memory, probably because it, too, was illustrated, was titled:
“There’s a Goat in My Ass”
I found out later that he’d pitched the book to nearly every publisher in New York. I don’t think it was ever published.
True story.
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Actually, some of Mr. Sheen’s poetic musing are online here:
http://www.zeedarteretz.com/logs/log28705a.htm
And to share my pain, here is the illustrious epic “A Goat in My Ass”:
A Goat In My Ass
There’s a goat in my ass,
Living mainly on grass.
They say the creature was stolen,
yet he feeds on my colon.
I don’t know how it got there,
As I burp up an occasional hair.
Often times I’ll sit and stare,
And drop pellets from my underwear.
Oh, these feelings may pass,
This wondrous goat,
In my ass.
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“And you don’t get more sympathy from me because you took advantage of people who were down, who then tossed some of the people you left behind into ovens after you snuck off with the loot.”
The reason why most high IQ gentiles want nothing to do with the likes of your kind is that they know in your victimhood world view there’s always a somebody who’s taking advantage of people who are “down.” Eliminate the Jews and they invariably become the target.
Sorry, socialist utopia (national or international flavor) will never exist.
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@Malcolm Tucker
I dig your analysis. Thanks.
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To all the Sheen worshippers: No one is calling Sheen a beta. Only an idiot would call him a beta. Any man who can probably get 95%+ of women on earth, despite their (alleged) disapproval of him is at the top of the pyramid.
But that doesn’t change the fact that he’s a walking joke, a self-parody, a drug-addled buffoon.
Now, if you want to suck him off, and jeer at people who happen to lament the near total collapse of our civilisation, then be my guest. But please don’t expect us to join in the lick-fest.
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Malcolm,
Ferris Bueller is a movie. In real life, Ferris is on welfare, drinking Country Club and lamenting the glory days of college while he grimly pounds a 250 pound single mother.
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This is one of the mainstream but increasingly tabloidy newspaper in India but it pretty much nailed this article:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/life-style/relationships/man-woman/7-Reasons-why-girls-cant-resist-bad-boys/articleshow/7378877.cms
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I’m on a drug, and it’s called caff feen. I fuck who I want, as much as I want, I do what I want, and I don’t go around kissing rossy’s ass, nor do I disagree with him just to disagree, when he’s right. I could have any woman I want, but I avoid young women because they are so ignorant. I avoid the stuck up and the stupid, too, no matter how hot. They can’t all have me, see. I have to be earned. I’ve done things that would curl your hair, but I don’t cut other men in on my action, see. Now, I choose carefully what I do because being a slave to your desires is omega as fuck. I have awesome kids to pass on my genes and my memes. There’s more to life than fucking, which if you fucked more than a couple thousand times you might get that. Have you ever added to human knowledge with something new, something never before seen? Flown an airplane? Scuba’ed? Written a mathematical theorem? Created something beautiful? Visited the ends of the earth? Written a poem? Learned to draw? Skydived? Played in a blues band? Built a house? Sailed a boat? Wargamed? Written a video game? Hiked a mountain? Collected coins? Swum a mile? Run a marathon? Raced a car? Written a novel? Rebuilt an engine? Slim-jimmed a car door? Picked a lock? Collected hobbies? Seen god in the back seat of your toyota? Yeah, I’ve done all that and I’ve done all the depraved bullshit that you wank too, too. I’m telling you it’s overrated. But on this post, I agree, Charlie Sheen is the man.
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Charlie added, “So you’re telling me, anytime someone calls me Carlos Estevez, I can claim they are anti-Latino?”
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Beta_plus,
Learning game allows you to mimick douches like Sheen, in your dealings with women. It won’t take you from dating 5s to 10s, but it can definitely raise your market value by 2-3 points (and going from 5s to 7s will change a man’s life). Game allows you to mimick the Dark Triad (Narcissism, Impulsiveness and Deceptiveness) that women crave in men.
A lot can be learned from folks like Sheen. But I draw the line at admiring every idiotic utterance that emerges from their drug-addled heads. Sadly, a lot of people here seem to have missed that.
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The reason that so many chumps get so bent about what defines an Alpha is usually because they don’t fit that general definition very well. So it’s a logical ego defense to make necessity a virtue (once again) and redefine it to better suit their own conditions. It’s exactly the same dynamic as the debate over Looks vs. Game. Game takes priority for those without Looks and vice versa. A personal definition of “what’s Alpha?” becomes whatever plays to an individual guy’s strengths. Deductively it makes sense; we want to be the embodiment of what we ‘know’ is attractive to women and others.
The problem then is looking at the definition objectively. In an objective light it’s difficult to look at ourselves as not measuring up to an Alpha ideal. So it becomes the first recourse to cast suspicion on the whole idea of being Alpha at all. It’s a pissing contest between immature men then. Or is it? There is a LOT of observable and provable evidence that many so-called Alpha traits do in fact elicit desired, favorable behaviors (usually breeding precursors) in women.
So then the definition moves into an ambiguous moral ground; is it ethical to be / act Alpha? To be Alpha implies that you necessarily rise above a certain degree of common mediocrity – whether you do so like a guy from hotchickswithdouchebags.com or like a perfect “honorable” gentlemen is irrelevant, you still position yourself above “other guys”. To some extent this is selfishness or implies a self-importance that questions moral tenets. I should also add here that women NEVER doubt themselves on moral grounds for outshining their own competition in the sexual market place – they just do so covertly and with a polite smile, unburdened by ethical doubts. Only men attempt to disqualify other men from the sexual marketplace with assaults another’s honor, integrity or moral virtue.
And that brings us to the subjectively deductive end of defining Alpha. Every sexual competitor seeks to disqualify their rivals from breeding opportunities. Most animals fight for territory or harem rights. Humans generally do the same combat in the psychological. We seek to disqualify sexual competitors by calling into doubt the sexual credibility of a rival. “Yeah, he’s really good looking, but that means he’s probably gay” from a man, or “You think that blonde with the big boobs is hot? Girls who dress like that are usually sluts” from a woman are both psychological, sexually disqualifying forms of combat.
This also applies to the observably, provably, sexually successful male capable of OVERTLY flaunting his high sexual value with 2 concurrent women. He must be of low moral character to so flagrantly manipulate two concurrent women right? His success, as a sexual competitor, conflicts with what a beta believes should constitute a beta-defined definition of Alpha-ness as it characterizes him personally. Ergo, the polygamist either must be disqualified as a sexual competitor based on subjective (moral) grounds, or the beta is forced to alter his own definition of Alphaness and therefore his own self-estimation (a very uncomfortable prospect).
Every guy has A Game. Everyone thinks they are Alpha in their own way. Even the worst doormat Nice Guy, hammered flat by women for a lifetime, thinks his supplications or Capn’ Save-a-Ho mindset is the best way to win a woman’s intimacy. He’s invested in thinking he’s unique in his understanding of how best to arrive at sex with a woman. Thus, Alpha-ness becomes a moving target that’s conveniently applied or disparaged based on his own circumstances.
Personally I believe Alpha-ness can, and does, have a concrete, objective definition. The problem arises when anyone asserts that they can definitively outline Alpha traits and it conflicts with the subjectiveness and ego-investments of those who define it personally for themselves. So we get a wide variety of what makes a man Alpha – he’s the guy of high moral character, princely ambition and integrity, as well as the self-important cad banging his wife and “their” girlfriend. They are BOTH Alpha. Thus I would propose that objective Alpha-ness is NOT exclusive to social status or personal integrity, but rather an attitude of expressly manifested confidence. This can be innate or learned, but the definition is not dependent on moral grounds (or a lack of). A scoundrel and a champion can be equally Alpha or Beta in their psyche’s.
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One problem.
He looked like a little bitch in those Hanes commercials. He was fawning over Michael Jordan like a little girl. That kills his Alpha cred with me.
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Saw this post coming a mile away…
Used to love c.sheen but he’s lost his youth and the “it” factor that made him a star, he’s now a (bad) caricature of himself. Despite the chateau’s claim that he can “partake of the smiley snow without suffering too many adverse affects.”
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You guys worshipping Sheen are just naive about manic depression. I’m bipolar myself, so I know it very well.
Non manic phase = I’m beta as shit by disposition
Manic phase = Super alpha, just like Sheen, witty, confident beyond any imagination, grandiose, etc; every hot girl I ever got was in my tiny windows of mania; I am god when I’m manic (doesn’t last long though)
To the guy saying people who are manic are more paranoid; eh…, many different flavors of manic depression and comorbidities that may or may not mix
This neurochemical dopaminergic wave will crest in Sheen’s brain; and then…….it gets bad…real bad
lonely, depressed, pathetic, desperate (see Sheen’s entire life history with his exes for evidence of these cycles in the past);
despite all his money and fame and social proof, etc, once the depressive stage kicks in, he will be more beta/miserable than even the worst non-manic depressive omegas possibly reading this blog
this is not someone you should be envying; and it’s not because i’m “PC” or feminist or whatever; I just know how much suffering is involved with manic depression (despite the small windows of brilliance we are afforded during the highs)
also the older he gets, the less ‘white mania’ he will experience, and the more dark mixed mania will creep in; it will only get worse
Mel Gibson is good example of what happens (you can see how the depths of his depression led him to be beta/omega with Russian lady during ‘lonely times’)
Sheen is fucked
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you poor thing! have us throw you a party (no, kill yourself) to cheer you up (you dont deserve it) and make you whole
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Rollo Tomassi
This also applies to the guy who learns game, bangs a couple dozen women, and beats his chest while he proclaims that he is an “alpha”.
Calling a guy who is good with women an alpha probably started out as an innocent label but it has evolved into a giant dick measuring competition that puts it into guy’s heads that all one needs to do to be successful in life is to learn how to bed women on the cheap.
An alpha is the leader of a social group people, nothing more, nothing less.
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Oh and an important note
Sheen isnt a drug addict because he’s living an ‘Adonis life’ by his own rules
he self medicates the down times of manic depression with drugs (yes I know this sounds like liberal new age bullshit to you guys with the ‘self medicating’ cliche, but it also happens to be true)
he has an awesome life if you just go by the “stats” (fucking hot young girls, money, etc.)
but he’s also miserable and unable to enjoy the “stats”; life is not so simple for the mentally ill
I know you guys are just excited to see someone not conform to political correct norms, but think about it some more; how many happy people have you ever known who have such erratic lives? Narcissists (even if you don’t buy that he is bipolar, which he is), are all miserable souls.
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Goddamn Rollo, your posts are starting to make Roissy’s posts look weak and tame by comparison.
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“It won’t take you from dating 5s to 10s, but it can definitely raise your market value by 2-3 points (and going from 5s to 7s will change a man’s life).”
Maybe, but going from 1s to 3s or even 3s to 5s isn’t so life changing, and a lot of guys should be aware of this before they waste a lot of time and money learning game.
Which is better, working your ass off socializing to maybe get a 5 or 6, or paying a couple hundred bucks to fuck an 8 or 9?
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Rollo,
Even though it isn’t always easy to define which men are alpha and which are not I feel like I can fairly easily recognize alpha traits and behavior. I don’t think women have as much ambiguity in determining who is alpha and who isn’t.
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Anonymous,
It doesn’t cost money to learn game, unless you’re tricked into one of those PUA training courses. Which are a complete waste of money. All you have to do is talk to a lot of girls, and practice.
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Dominance over other men, while still managing to be liked and respected by them is something women really notice and find attractive.
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I just watched Sheen’s “not bi-polar just bi-winning” interview clip for the first time. You can all bicker about whether he’s alpha or beta until the cows come home. All I see is a man who shot his brain to pieces for no reason. There ain’t no way to fix that.
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@LostSailor
“Charlie Sheen once pitched me his illustrated book of poetry. Seriously.”
It’ll get published now.
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Sheen is fucked said: “You guys worshipping Sheen are just naive about manic depression. I’m bipolar myself, so I know it very well.”
Okay, so either he’s alseep or just does more coke (or gets pissed-off at people) during his depressive phase…
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Just minutes ago I received an email from Sirius.
All Charlie Sheen, all the time. A limited-time 24 hour radio station dedicated just to him: http://www.siriusxm.com/siriusxmstarstoo
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Sheen’s rants are great. Too bad they’e fueled by drug addiction. Compare the way Sheen comes off compared to Sean Connery.
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“I have the right to disparage jews, lump them all together and make insulting genralizations and bizarre, ahistorical claims about them, and if any of them objects that just shows how unfair they play, those fucking jews!”
for the record I was amused by Sheen tearing into Lorre because Lorre is responsible for a lot of bad television – including the show that’s making Charlie unimaginably rich.
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“It doesn’t cost money to learn game, unless you’re tricked into one of those PUA training courses. Which are a complete waste of money. All you have to do is talk to a lot of girls, and practice.”
It costs money to go to where girls are, and it costs a lot of time to practice.
All this to maybe get a 5 or 6.
If you have a decent market value to start with, like are already capable of snagging 5s and 6s, then it might be worth doing.
But to me all that socializing isn’t worth the effort if it’s not gonna get me 7s and above. I’m maybe a 3 or 4, so going up 2 points on the scale doesn’t mean jack to me, since I’d rather just jack off to porn of a 10 than fuck anything below a 6, and I wouldn’t fuck a 6 unless she made absolutely 100% of the effort
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Correction:
Firepower.
WHINNING
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Tiger Woods also had to pay for his pussy.
Just saying.
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The problem with Sheen is he’s gone from being bad-boy Alpha to drama queen….
It’s off-putting.
It’s no fun being with a drunk or an addict.
Yah, the persona may appear alpha, but it raises the deeper question about the “alpha” persona that when it becomes a burden on others….it’s beta…
He’s over-gaming, over-compensating with all the bravado which now seems hollow.
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Sheen, if really alpha, wouldn’t be dependent on hard drugs, and wouldn’t be fucking women who get paid to fuck.
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All Hail the Circus!
All Hail the Gladiator!
All Hail the decadence and depravity!
The days of God won’t come again.
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If alpha is defined as someone who is attractive to attractive women then Sheen is definitely alpha.
He has/had a hit TV show, hit movies, fame, money, plus he likes to party. That combination is enough to attract an army of young party-girl groupies and hanger-ons.
Sheen didn’t or doesn’t pay for pussy because that is the only way he can get it. He pays because he can. He’s explained it himself before. He said he pays them when he doesn’t feel like lying to them and to get rid of them after.
Also this guy has had more career success then 99 % of actors and made more money then 90% of the people in the world.
Sheen is hardly a loser, but many losers are alpha, in terms of attracting women. There are guys with decent jobs and money who can’t get women or can only get worn out ones. Then there are uneducated, barely literate guys with no money and no jobs who get lots and lots of women.
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Roissy is really overstepping here.
For one thing, why would anyone, let alone someone rich and famous, fuck a porn star?
Wouldn’t it bother you where these skanks have been, and that EVERYONE knows about it? Like, by definition?
I mean, why not keep a few early-20’s girls next door types in rotation, if you could?
Charlie Sheen is an utterly spoiled little shit who was given everything to him in life from birth. He makes millions of dollars by doing impressions of…himself. How could he not be brimming with confidence and arrogance? To me, he just brings into focus the ugliness underlying those qualities, vaulted as they are around here.
His father is not some hunched over miserable beta. He was Martin fucking Sheen.
Basically you are worshipping another man’s dumb luck and contempt for all the lesser humans who make his existence possible.
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Roissy,
I think you may have inadvertently exposed why Sheen, for all his brilliance—and he IS a poet of alpha energy, I admit it—has a taint of the …. falling buffoon:
“only his dad is the greater alpha.”
His dad ain’t just any greater alpha. His dad is the hero of Apocalypse Now. His dad is not JUST alpha. His dad is alpha with substance.
That is an albatross that must be hard for him to wear in this reality TV shlock-a-thon of a culture.
Hence, there is something stinky, something ever-so-slightly pathetic about him.
I feel for Charlie. He’s up there where the air is so thin that few of us can imagine…where every woman is yours for the taking but you’re STILL Son of.
Garden variety anti-semitism…whatever. It ain’t gonna make him the star of the what is maybe the greatest movie ever made.
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Anonyous coward
Dude, I’m a 3 or a 4 and I do better than 90% of guys of any number.
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Charlie Sheen is truly a god among men. He was a bro before that term existed
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Sloppy seconds after a hundreds of brovas is super alpha?
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Lara said: “I don’t think women have as much ambiguity in determining who is alpha and who isn’t.”
Bingo! They just fuck the biggest asshole they can complain about later… may THIS guy will by the one who’ll change! Seriously, though, most women can’t tell the difference between Alpha male and “asshole game” that can’t walk the walk– “perception is reality” satisfies many, sorta like empty calories.
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Charlie is a joke. Who is he trying to deceive? There is no happyness in his lifestyle, and only blind people who lack knowledge of basic human nature can really think he is “happy” with this.
He isn’t. He wants to get out, but probably he can’t (on his own power).
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[…] debut is particularly poignant because PUA philosopher Roissy had just finished anointing Sheen as the super-alpha, the gold standard by which all lesser men should be […]
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Bingo! They just fuck the biggest asshole they can complain about later… may THIS guy will by the one who’ll change!
also, because it works very well as a rationalization. ‘the guy pumped and dumped me because he’s an asshole! [i.e. it’s not my fault he played me]’.
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(The Real) Dreamer-
A return no injury open handed slap for example, or in response for her slugging him as hard as she can in his stomach. Saying “I could kill you for that” (as some/many women say to men they’re living with, with considerable frequency) when it’s obviously an extreme exaggeration said in anger, without any history of serious violence towards women or that kind of violence towards anyone. Scratching her arm unintentionally when grabbing them to stop her from hitting him in the stomach repeatedly. Shoving her away from him while she’s screaming in his face, without any intent to hurt her, but she trips and falls and bangs the back of her head, so it’s bruised a little and maybe bleeds a little.
I certainly think that for anything less than felony assault (which requires serious injury) no automatic temporary (90 day) order of protection should be ordered by judges as is required by VAWA if the wife or domestic partner hasn’t asked for one or only did in anger to police at the moment and then asks for it to be lifted, nor should the case go forward or be held in 90 suspension (with him required to hire a lawyer and go to court repeatedly while they try to get him to cop a non court record plea in return for attending a feminist reeducation camp) if the wife or gf doesn’t want to press changes, or decides not to after a day or two. Under VAWA one of the reasons for automatic orders of protection the domestic partner didn’t ask for, which prevent even phone or texting communication by him with her (even if she initiates it), is so the couple won’t make up, the radical feminists behind VAWA hope. They claim it’s so he doesn’t intimidate her into dropping charges, but know damn well in the overwhelming majority of VAWA cases that isn’t what the husband does or wants to do; he wants to make up.
I think automatic unasked for 90 day or longer orders of protection (complete non communication) and taking it out of the woman’s hands to press charges shouldn’t be the case even if there is non serious injury, such as some minor bruising. It’s certainly not the case in all other assault and battery matters when the police are called. She knows how much she was totally in his face and e.g. drunkenly enraged doing her utmost best to provoke him, and how he doesn’t regularly abuse her in any way including emotionally, if that’s the case. Yeah she should be encouraged by the DV trained prosecutor to press charges and ask for an order of protection, but it should be up to her.
This is a total feminist fabrication, like so many other feminist fabrications. (E.g. such as super bowl Sunday being the most dangerous day of the year for wives and girlfriends – made up by NOW out of whole cloth, or the radical feminist lie endlessly repeated that one in four women will either be raped in college or an attempt will be made to rape them. That’s just wildly, vastly fabricated.)
Yes they used this “inevitably becomes major” mantra to help get the law passed and renewed. It’s like saying using marijuana inevitably leads to mainlining heroin. Yeah nearly all heroin injectors did smoke some joints first, but the vast majority of marijuana samplers or users never turn to heroin. Slapping a woman back occasionally who has grown under VAWA to repeatedly slapping him, is likely to get her to stop doing it. If VAWA and its automatic orders of protection weren’t there.
Endless nagging and emotional abuse can and does kill many an American man’s spirit. It’s not covered by VAWA or anything similar. In the vast majority of VAWA cases nothing like that is involved. I’m not saying that real assault and battery in the home shouldn’t be prosecuted. Of course they should.
The possibility that he might get physical in a controlled way, if seriously provoked enough is an important tool and zeitgeist.
Feminists have sought to emasculate men in this and many other ways, and succeeded with far too many American middle class guys these days. The feminist created VAWA reality that there’s no consequence starting with the police in the way that VAWA is enforced if she gets physically out of control with him (without seriously injuring him), but real consequence to him if he acts against her physically in a controlled and very limited way and she calls 911 in righteous feminist anger, definitely diminishes his natural male dominance in the relationship. Particularly it does with less verbally adept guys. It tends to pull towards reversing that in fact. It’s designed by feminists to do just that.
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Around the time VAWA was being enacted in the mid 1990’s, Sean Connery responded to questions from Barbara Walters in an interview that he has occasionally slapped his wife when she really needed that, though never so hard as to really hurt her. Barbara Walters repeatedly and doggedly tried to shame him into admitting that hitting a weaker woman was never justified no mater what the provocation, but Connery refused to be shamed. He responded of course I’d never hit a woman with his fists or try to do her damage. But yes sometimes, not often, a slap is called for. He said all this from a serene dominant frame. Yes I saw the interview. I imagine you could find it on YouTube.
Heh.
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VAWA does little to stop serious domestic violence. Those guys were prosecuted for assault and battery under prior existing law, and orders of protection were routinely given previously in such cases. VAWA doesn’t do much to increase jail penalties for serious assault. The real abusers ignore orders of protection.
Instead what it does and was designed to do, though that’s not how it was sold, is to keep middle class guys from in any way from reasserting physical dominance, or intimidating in minor no injury ways their out of control wives.
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Hilarious Link: http://www.mediaite.com/tv/abc-news-andrea-canning-reveals-she-was-in-a-fog-during-charlie-sheen-interview/
Soaking panties.
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It astounds me that manic phase grandiosity is admired by so many people here. If he said he was “Jesus” or had super powers or talked to God, would that be “awesome” too?
He is probably going to be limited to supervised visitation with his children for years, how “awesome” is that? He’s destroying his career and his body…definitely “winning!”
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Is there some proof that Sheen is bipolar?
Sure it’s plausible, but it’s also plausible that he’s not, but rather addicted, with some ability to recover and considerable ability to function at high levels most of the time regardless. He does not appear addicted to coke/crack on any of his episodes many of which were taped during periods when he allegedly was.
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doug1 He does not appear addicted to coke/crack
doug are you kidding me? I guess you’ve never seen a drug addict .
is Dana A the dana who has a blog and argues with Nicole?
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doug1
Well since you’re so pro domestic violence, I sure hope your okay with being slapped around by one of your much younger paramours. You know, sometimes you men need a firm backhand across the face when you get out of line.
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Kids, wake up, he’s an actor, he’s ACTING. He’s out of this contract now and on to a better deal elsewhere, keep following the story, you’ll see.
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http://www.mediaite.com/tv/abc-news-andrea-canning-reveals-she-was-in-a-fog-during-charlie-sheen-interview/
This is the capper.
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Bounder
“I’m so tired of people and their asinine “THIS IS WHAT A REAL ALPHA IS” comments.
You sound like a woman with a 486 point checklist for her ideal mate.”
This.
Yes, he’s Alpha and he’s also on self-destruct. Alpha doesn’t mean the ideal of male virtue, it means a man who gets what he wants. Sheen wants hookers and blow until he dies blowing his colon out on the toilet at age 55. Those of you catting it up about how “beta” he is to blow off pretty much every societal standard are missing the point. Alpha is a value-neutral state; Sheen being someone less than admirable doesn’t make him less alpha.
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Oh, I don’t know. I’ve often thought he looked tweaked, and I had never been exposed to any celebrity gossip about the guy.
In some shows he looks relaxed and at ease, in others his jaw is clenched the whole time.
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P.S. Charlie Sheen’s own children are Jewish, as his own mother, and he himself is apparently technically Jewish by most definitions: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORXXf3xpBro
So, the final answer to the question in the article is the foible that got him in trouble was publicly-ridiculing his bosses, not anti-semitism.
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chic noir–
Piss off lying twat.
Damn right I utterly oppose VAWA. All men with any balls when they learn what it really actually does for so little, are or will be.
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@Chic Noir
If there is any one law the Chateau would be against, it would be VAWA, the “Violence Against Women Act” which gets renewed only because of its lying name and the cowardice of politicians who are afraid to vote against something because of its name.
Part of VAWA is IMBRA, which says that American men need to be background checked if they try to meet a foreign woman online where only the American has to pay for contact (I understand feminists forced Match.com to change its policy where a young woman could answer a man’s letter without forcing her to pay – thus guaranteeing more young women rejecting older men on Match.com simply because of this need for them to pay to answer).
The new International VAWA will be even more bad news because it will give tons of money to foreign feminist organizations to help develop feminism in other countries.
VAWA is about spreading hatred of men, not about ending socalled violence against women.
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I know it’s coming in late to this discussion, but I found it amusing that today the woman who was interviewing Sheen openly admits she was “in a fog”.
Heh, heh… fog probably due to the tremendous amount of moisture in her panties.
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He has a drug habit and still gets along better than all of you.
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This is my first post on the website, by way of introduction. It has less to do with game per se but it does have to do with evaluating the status of a man as an alpha male
About 10 years back I spoke with a man , a very unassuming 70-something with a thick belt around his waist. The man had been a guerilla fighter in WWII. He fought against both Germans and Soviets (see if you can guess which country he was from). He was captured by both, at different times, and tortured by both. His prime years as a man were spent in completely unequal combat, in starvation-level prison camps, in torture chambers, and hiding in forests in between. He was lucky to survive. I obviously didn’t ask him this, but my guess would be that he didn’t have a whole lot of time to spend on game. He eventually married and had kids, and it’s a pretty safe bet, given the society he lived in, that he had sex with fewer than five women. Perhaps just the one – his wife and the mother of his children.
Now, what does the above have to do with Charlie Sheen? Well, I agree that in this place and time, Charlie Sheen is definitely an alpha male. People who dismiss him for the most part are people who would love, but who also could not handle, to be him. Charlie Sheen said as much in his own words and I think he’s right. Nevertheless, I think that the man I interviewed was much more alpha than Charlie Sheen. He banged fewer women, did fewer lines of coke, hell, he did what he wanted a lot less often than Charlie, but nevertheless, he is more alpha than either Sheen, or me, or, I would guess, most of the people here.
As to his thick belt that I mentioned above – well, he needed it to hold his intestines in place. Some of the tortures he suffered were not exactly the stuff that leaves you healthy afterward (read: no waterboarding for him). At least he still had his fingernails.
I guess the question is: is a true warrior who ends up fucking almost no women because his side is the losing side any less alpha than a man who has never been in a fight but happens to live in a country where you can play the game daily in relative safety? I know that the question is abstract for any male living in the non-draft U.S. of today, but hopefully you can at least see where the question is coming from. For me, the warrior on the losing side is like a dead-end alpha – he will never reap the benefits of his actions as a warrior, because by the time he comes home, it’s a new reality, with the other guys as the winners.
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All that’s needed now is for Sheen to discover the Chateau, become truly enlightened, bang on about it and it could be the beginning of a perfect storm
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@Marek
Finland is my first guess, but the Baltics, Poland and any number of EE countries found men fighting the Nazis and then the Soviets. I think at least 10 countries had this situation.
Military valor is not included in this blog’s definition of alpha unless the man got a hot woman directly because she admired his war hero status or because the experience of war gave him an alpha demeanor (the military confers this to men all the time which is why it’s not a mistake for a young man to serve). If he only had one woman, then he would be alpha only if he, himself, was sufficiently sexually attracted to her to never feel the need to look elsewhere (Jimmy Carter revealed he was beta by implying he felt constrained inside his marriage).
I envy those men who could be satisfied with one woman as long as they really feel that way and aren’t just faking it for the cameras.
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I am not impressed with this weekend’s Sheen Korner rants. He’s starting to look bad. He’s overdoing it.
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@doug1
Yeh in a perfect world men would know how to balance their use of physical assertion over women but most who employ a shove, an arm grab, or the rare slap here and there don’t know when to stop and barely do these actions gently or with any balance of emotion and force.
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I guess the question is: is a true warrior who ends up fucking almost no women because his side is the losing side any less alpha than a man who has never been in a fight but happens to live in a country where you can play the game daily in relative safety?
With no disrespect to anyone, that doesn’t sound quite as fun, even though the guy may be more of an alpha.
I know a buttload of very alpha American soliders who are not alpha in how they give or get treatment from girls. He’s the king of the world you know, but some ignorant, bratty, hot chick can knock him off his thrown with one “you’re too old” insult. The irony is, us Americans, for the most part, fight for and strive for a somewhat polite and reasonable society. Throw all that shit out when dealing with the broadnistas man. Throw all that shit the fuck out.
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(The Real) Dreamer–
There is no evidence for this at all. Particularly among middle class men I virtually sure this is wrong and by a very high percentage.
You are I think being influenced by feminist dogma that’s awash in the general media on this subject.
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@doug1
While I 99.9% of the time agree w/ you I suppose this will be a rare time I don’t. I’m a shy, passive, and submissive girl through and through who attracts people from the opposite spectrum, usually aggressive/dominant. My past LTR was with someone who took their physical assertion too far and eventually scared me away… that kind of stuff will frighten us ‘fall-in’line’ type of girls to the point where we can’t think or function correctly. I’m lucky now to be committed to someone who understands the balance and only rarely if ever needs to use force (but knows HOW to do it when I’ve lost my place).
For those who don’t know that balance, there needs to be outside forces to step in and regulate because the type of girls who are victimized typically don’t know how to do it themselves.
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dreamer
this is all fine and good — you’re saying that women should be given the same “outside” help that is given to children.
che
the problem with this outlook is that it’s incompatible with giving the same women adult rights and privileges, e.g., the right to vote, the privilege of holding power over other adults at work, etc. can’t have it both ways.
you’re latina, right? didn’t your mamá ever tell you, ayúdate y Dios te ayudará?
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“For those who don’t know that balance, there needs to be outside forces to step in and regulate because the type of girls who are victimized typically don’t know how to do it themselves.”
why of course, and in the off-chance when they do it’s BWS:
http://www.australian-news.com.au/domestic_violence_Susan_Falls.htm
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(The Real) Dreamer–
I’d act like the second guy with a girl like you dreamer. And I think the vast majority of middle class on up guys would.
I’m not for one minute faulting you for leaving the first relationship since it made you feel that way. But that’s the solution, not VAWA 90 day orders of protection (move out of his house and no communication) for a rare return slap.
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(The Real) Dreamer–
I’ve long sensed you were like that and long be attracted to you in part for that reason.
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che, i think “the vast majority of middle class on up guys” would actually act like the third type, i.e. someone who wouldn’t use force at all even if justified.
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@dreamer you’re also forgetting the truth of the matter here, which is that *actual* victims of domestic violence (as few as they are, almost nonexistent outside prole classes) *don’t* usually invoke law enforcement and courts. most of them let it go in silence, for an array of reasons that are irrelevant to this argument.
case in point — did *you* ever run to the cops or courts in your first relationship (the one that you say was genuinely abusive)? i’m betting the answer is no.
so, you have a law that is obviously misguided, but, even worse, is almost exclusively applied to “perpetrators” who are innocent of the act in question.
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If you’ve never grabbed a woman’s throat in anger, you’re missing out.
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@Jerry
The man I wrote about was from Poland. Funny, I thought I had WWII history down pretty good, but I never realized that Finland fought against Germany at one point.
@Obstinance Works
Heh, it took me a long time to realize that women simply don’t value the same things as men do. Specifically, most women in the U.S. don’t really value martial courage or anything war-related, unless you are also able to turn it into something that makes you look like a winner. So, a military past, even a decorated one, is a useful tool with girls if you know how to use it, but it is nowhere near automatic. A noble, quiet soldier is far less attractive to women than a less-decorated one but with better game. On the other hand, I would imagine that even the most focused alpha who will generally avoid praising other men would find it hard to not acknowledge military valor as something intrinsically good without giving a damn about whether the soldier in question also knows how to use it to get chicks.
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*move HIM out of his house …
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They just look at good men as suckers Marek. The end is near.
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Must be a mental block in your imaginanation then. Some people view soldiers as sheep – puppets and pawns too willing to throw away self interest. Followers.
Yes, the argument for sacrifice can be made. So can the argument for self interest. Is sacrifice noble? Not usually, no. Usually it’s just sacrifice.
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An ex soldier has more stories to tell which will often appear more bad-ass than sheep-like if the guy has game, especially if he’s now doing well in a “trendy SWPL neighborhood”.
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(The Real) Dreamer–
This is the kind of totally out of control that VAWA and all the public service advertising about MEN’s and only men’s domestic abuse can and does shelter and encourage, with certain female personality types:
http://www.shrink4men.com/2011/03/01/scenes-from-an-abusive-marriage-should-you-post-an-abusive-wifes-behavior-on-youtube/
Sure the guy’s a beta, but he’s not a totally balls less beta. He is gathering evidence to get child custody. Good for him.
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real dreamer,
you’ve taken your experience and then generalized it by saying ‘most who employ a shove, an arm grab, or the rare slap here and there don’t know when to stop and barely do these actions gently or with any balance of emotion and force.’
the ‘most’ qualifier is what being disputed – the assumption that escalation of physical violence is inevitable.
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@doug1
i’m blushing! and likewise. thanks for the kind and thoughtful responses.
@ ritmo
you’re right. i’ve got some thinking to do on that one.
@itsme
i don’t mean to generalize, i’ve not thought out my ideas too much here so i’ve got a way to go w/ that.
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I was eagerly awaiting what you were going to say about Charlie Sheen, Roissy, and it’s certainly about time you jumped in.
The problem with calling Sheen an alpha male is that he has admitted he is paying both women for their company. If he were truly a super alpha then they would be paying HIM. Like you said, betas pay, alphas split, super alphas profit. If Sheen is paying, doesn’t that make him beta by definition?
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Pedro
You misunderstand the nature of money and resources. Charlie isn’t paying with bananas that he’s gathered from the tree himself. He’s paying with bananas that his minions have given to him. He’s rich and has an abundance of bananas. His paying costs him nothing – he has an endless supply of bananas and an endless stream of minions.
Or if you want to calculate his money as wages, how many seconds of his hourly wage does he pay to the girls per hour of fucking? That is not paying. That is a token gesture that costs him, relatively speaking, nothing.
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@Pedro
Much of the praise for Sheen in the above post is a natural reaction to seeing the media try to shame a male. Berlusconi and Putin also get male sympathy this way. In Sheen and Berlusconi’s cases, since feminists and their mangina and White Knighter allies* want to criminalize paid sex and most anglo men would be against that if they still had political power in the anglosphere, these men both get sympathy from other men based on the principle of “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”.
Whether they are really alphas in terms of their getting the women they really want to get, is indeterminate.
I’m sure confident guys would agree that they’d find it interesting and productive to have one of these men as a wingman, at least as a foil, if we could have that happen.
Yes, if Sheen is paying his core girlfriends and they wouldn’t be into him if he went broke, and he isn’t any longer picking up women the way he did the sister in Ferris Buhler’s Day Off, then that doesn’t appear alpha according to the definitions at this blog.
But one might take him at his word that he only pays some women so he won’t have to lie about wanting to start a romance…meaning he knows he could get into a long romance with another Denise Richards type if he wanted to. If that’s the case, that he could easily get a younger version of Denise if he were willing to lie about his intentions like most PUAs, then he’s still alpha by the definition of this blog.
You’d have to invite Sheen to a convention in Las Vegas and observe his behavior over a week to see if he ends up having more fun with better looking women than the rest of us get, while spending less of a percentage of his wealth than we do for the entire week.
If you went by the expense percentage measure, most of us would notice the expense of spending a week in Vegas, while he wouldn’t. If he wasn’t paying massive child support, we could say that he’s “winning” compared to us simply by spending less on women than everyone else as a percentage of his income.
I believe that, in Las Vegas as part of Charlie Sheen’s entourage, I would probably do better than he does and for free, but based on the pre-selection aura he helped give me and based on my having a very different taste in women than he does. I’d be “winning” only because I’d be getting the type of woman I prefer.
Women like jerks. I’d have to depend on the women assuming I must be a jerk if I was part of his entourage. Sheen might be able to take most women away from me and most guys here at a moment’s notice.
We’d have to see him in action at the pick up stage.
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* Working definition difference between manginas and White Knighters (open for revision):
A Mangina would be a male, normally on the political left (but not always), who believes women are superior or downtrodden by the patriarchy and who will kowtow to them, such as in shaming other men, in the hope of picking up sexual table scraps.
A White Knighter would be a male, normally on the political right (but not always), who believes women should be put on a pedestal (such as in assuming they won’t respect jerks like Charlie Sheen) and men should be chivalrous to them, with failure to be chivalrous punishable by loss of freedom or shaming.
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Drugs – Nobody said Coke is “cool” but what some of us are saying is do what the fuck you feel like and live your life. Many people fall prey to drugs, yet something like Cocaine has been around for hundreds of years and if you didn’t actually know personally plenty of CEO’s (our President..past 2 actually) lawyers, bankers etc that have done Coke more than once then you might think that everyone who has done it is a total loser who will fall into a dark spiral of homelessness and drug addiction. Not the case obviosly..as the chatuea has pointed out some people can handle things in moderation and some cannot. Maybe its genetic??? Just look at what Alchohol does to your average English man and what it does to, ohh let’s say your average Native American.
Jews – Well nobody said that talking poorly about any race, creed or religion is alpha or cool. But certainly what isn’t indicitave of Alpha or even being slightly manly at all is running scared and hushing your mouth at even the slightest off color remark no matter if it is a clear truth or just a slight joke.
Remember, “Chaim” and Charlie butted heads on many issues for quite a while now and Oh don’t forget that “Chaim” often referred to Charlies as “Carlos” Esteves because of his hispanic roots and well technically it was his real name. So, Charlie returned the favor and called “Chaim” by his real name.
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Forgot to add…
What makes the SWPL’s lame reactions so telling in this case would be their blind ignorance and group think knee jerk reaction at the slightest mention of something jewish yet not a second thought given to the racial slur zinged at little “Carlitos” Esteves aka Charlie Sheen.
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