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March 11, 2011 by CH

Monica “Keeper of the cigars” Lewinsky says she’s still in love with super alpha Bill Clinton:

Bill Clinton’s former intern Monica Lewinsky has not got married or had children because she is reportedly still in love with him and ‘always will be’.

‘Monica still hasn’t got over Bill and would take him back in a second,’ a friend said.

‘She told me: “There will never be another man in my life that could make me as happy as he did”,’ the friend told the National Enquirer magazine.

‘Monica still carries a torch for him. She’s dated some [betas], off and on, since the whole White House mess. But she’s never been able to get Bill out of her heart’.

When a woman has blown the President of the United States — and let’s face it, it doesn’t get much more alpha than President — no other man can compare. And this is true regardless of the looks of the woman. A bloated seacow like Lewinsky should be ecstatic to receive the attention of a middling beta male, but after Bill’s tender ministrations her hamster lurched all the way to hyperdrive and warped into a parallel mentalverse where she thinks dropping on bended knee to service the Cock in Chief a few times is proof he loves her and she has the goods to attract the very highest value men. If this isn’t a classic real-world example of the maxim that women prefer five minutes of alpha to five years of beta, I don’t know what is.

Unfortunately for Monica’s self-regard, she’s still a fat aging shit, so Bill stuffing her mouth full of bubbameat a long time ago didn’t, in actuality, raise her sexual market value at all like it would have done for a male intern who plowed a female head of state. She might think she’s all that and a milkshake, but she’s just another waddling turd like 60% of the American outback. For women, their status equation is simple:

Looks, looks, looks.

So what happens when a horny alpha male with time on his hands and a convenient outlet down the White House hall decides to inflate a chubby chick’s ego by stuffing his cock in her face? Well, you combine his charmingly Ozarkian attentions with a woman’s natural inclination to optimistically reevaluate her sexual worth every time an alpha dumps an empty fuck in her, and, voila!, fifteen years later you get a fatter chick, single and alone.

This is the perfect formula for raising the odds that a random woman will wind up a spinster with a houseful of cats:

Have her get sexually plundered by a super alpha a few times in her prime + throw a good thirty pounds of blubber on her frame = overinflated sense of self and an unyielding refusal to settle that is conveniently aided by her grotesque body which makes her invisible to lesser beta men who might otherwise think about dating her.

When Clinton’s memoir My Life came out in 2004, Miss Lewinsky spoke of her upset at its contents to the Daily Mail, saying rather than being a physical fling, it was a mutual relationship.

‘He could have made it right with the book, but he hasn’t. He is a revisionist of history. He has lied.

‘I really didn’t expect him to go into detail about our relationship’, she added. ‘But if he had and he’d done it honestly, I wouldn’t have minded.’

She believed he made it sound like the dalliance came only at her initiative and was purely physical.

Color me shocked that a spurned woman still in thrall to an alpha male she blew a few times fifteen years ago would misinterpret the “relationship” and project her female need for love and affection onto his motivations. Newsflash, Monica: You were the nearest available hole.

That said, it is possible Bill loved Monica. I mean, the guy was married to hatchet-faced Hillary ferkrissakes. A young, albeit chubby, chick working within his line of sight could very easily inspire a gush of genuine love from a suffering older man long-married to a ballcutting feminist shrike.

‘He talked about it as though I had laid it all out there for the taking. I was the buffet and he just couldn’t resist the dessert.’

Darlin’, you ate the buffet:

The lesson here is not whether Bill did or didn’t love Monica. The lesson is that it is bad news for beta males when women get a few months of ego-boosting lovemaking with alpha males. I speak from some experience. Seeing as I have accumulated a fair amount of stalkers over my lifetime, I’m certain there are ex-girlfriends who still to this day cannot get over me, and have bid their time alone rather than settle for second-best.

Women will fondly remember those alpha male intimate moments for years afterwards — in fact, they’ll remember right up until they are reclined on their deathbeds — and their ability to bond with lesser men will be severely compromised. Even when she is a fat fuck who should be thankful for any male attention.

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  1. on March 11, 2011 at 7:31 pm Tinderbox

    No guy with any self-respect would want to put his wang in, much less commit to and settle down with, this chick who is still so enamored of Slick Willie that she probably hasn’t yet gargled out the jism from those fateful Oval Office Closet encounters.

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  2. on March 11, 2011 at 7:32 pm The_King

    A fun game is to change your FB status to “Engaged” and see how many former exes and secret admirers blow up your message box. Last time I did it was around 30 by the next day.

    Its scary how girls remember what I said 5 years ago and I don’t even remember their name. Or maybe its the alcohol.

    H.

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  3. on March 11, 2011 at 7:33 pm Sparks123

    Way ahead you, boss.

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  4. on March 11, 2011 at 7:33 pm J

    “and let’s face it, it doesn’t get much more alpha than President ”

    ————–

    I thought you said Obama was a beta (a statement I disagree with)?

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  5. on March 11, 2011 at 7:35 pm Ari Hinkelberger

    When i saw this article I knew you’d write about it. Pretty true…..pretty true.

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  6. on March 11, 2011 at 7:36 pm Heydrich

    Fat, ugly, Jew broad to boot.

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  7. on March 11, 2011 at 7:45 pm Al

    I thought you always said job title does not make an alpha. I guess being president is one of the few jobs that automatically guarantees alpha status. I’ll add pimp as another job title that guarantees alpha. Who ever heard of a beta pimp.

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  8. on March 11, 2011 at 7:51 pm Thor

    @al

    Yes, being POTUS gives automatic alpha status. Few
    other jobs do, but major movie producer will work,
    with some women.

    That the Obasmotron is personally a weak beta,
    who cannot refrain from bowing when protocol
    very much discourages it (among other things),
    is irrelevant.

    And I think Al has the causality reversed. You don’t GET
    to be a pimp unless you are very alpha.

    Thor

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  9. on March 11, 2011 at 7:51 pm Anon

    It seems to me that the alpha male has a more important job than getting his dick wet in a fine hole. He could probably do a lot of good for society by actually getting close to fat chicks, and then running the fuck away when he gets her clothes off, calling her fat all the way. Would that burning shame not drive at least a few to change themselves for the better? Does he not have a tremendous ability to crush deflated egos all around? Is it not, dare I say, his moral duty?

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  10. on March 11, 2011 at 7:54 pm Royce Geist

    Hilarious

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  11. on March 11, 2011 at 8:01 pm Me

    Just imagine how awful that cigar must have smelled,

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  12. on March 11, 2011 at 8:05 pm Me

    And I’d like to add that the fact that the title of President of the United States of America holds any weight or prestige at all is just one of the many problems with this country.

    A thankless, barely remembered, non paying gig, attracting only those with little to no desire for power. 4 years is too long.

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  13. on March 11, 2011 at 8:10 pm last tango

    k, dude(s), bunch of decent posts lately, but this ain’t it.
    a) angry over some shit like this? If there’s any moral in this story – hormones, ho’s do get attached, gotta be careful w/them. To be honest that’s one bitch shield I avoid penetrating.
    b) story is very simple – her cunt friend who aired the story destroyed her life. Who the would even date her? Marry? Bring to parents? lolz. I’m sure she’d “bond” just fine, just like other ho (they all are, keep your game strong) “bonds” to your average shlub if you know what I mean. It’s just those shlubs don’t know/can’t imagine their histories.
    c) I don’t think that really has anything to do with her ego, disappointing to read here. As the real H himself said many times, all this game/status/attraction shit is way below ego, in the m/f Id, the lizard brain. She doesn’t know what hit her.

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  14. on March 11, 2011 at 8:15 pm Tim

    Jesus. I thought that was Naomi Wolf at first. The resemblance is striking, but they’re still both a couple of warpigs:

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  15. on March 11, 2011 at 8:19 pm RedEmperor

    As true an analysis of why so many chubby women shoot down their male counterparts as I’ve ever read. Less extreme examples can be seen every night in every club and bar in the West.

    Evidence of female hypergamy is everywhere – and that’s fairly strong support for Game

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  16. on March 11, 2011 at 8:58 pm Trov

    “I thought you said Obama was a beta (a statement I disagree with)?”

    J: He only beta in relation to leaders of other nations(Specifically Russian and France).

    The status of being the president still puts him as the top alpha within our borders though, regardless of alot of the beta things he does.

    As for Monica… Holy fuck, she really let herself go. She wasn’t always this fat was she? Or is my memory that bad?

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  17. on March 11, 2011 at 9:00 pm 24/7

    Even if she’s overweight I’d stilll give her a 5/6. I’ve seen way worse, and if she lost the weight she’s actually be quite attractive — maybe a 7.5 — her face is actually quite pretty — she’s fat but she’s not ugly. Like I said, I’ve seen way worse —

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  18. on March 11, 2011 at 9:41 pm whorefinder

    Clinton is alpha, but sneaky alpha. He clearly doesn’t buy feminism’s bullshit, but is too weak to say it. He’ll pretend he’s all about women’s equality—just because he knows the leftie chicks are easier.

    I think it stems from his nerdy/poor childhood. He was a band geek and a single mom’s son—and, unlike most single mother’s of successful males (LeBron James), his mom really never gave a fuck about him (she skipped one of his inaugurations as President to go to the race track. Yes, seriously).

    So his issues with women causes him to choose ugly broads—Hillary, Paula Jones, Monica, Gennifer Flowers—and tell them the feminist line. He’s basically insecure about it his alphaness, and so chose low-hanging fruit (lol).

    Had he had a good two parent household/not been a band geek/had a mother who actually loved him, I think he’d have told those feminazis off and started banging quality poontang.

    John Edwards is the same way—he allowed his hag of a wife to balloon up to epic proportions. He, clearly, is an alpha, yet was to insecure to tell her to slim down/ divorce her fat ass/ tell feminazi’s off.

    Sadly, this current prez isn’t even alpha. He’s beta, beholden to a shrewish wife, weak-willed and easily dominated.

    And we wonder why the world is laughing at us.

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  19. on March 11, 2011 at 9:46 pm DirkJohanson

    @ 24/7 Bear in mind that 5/6 you’re giving her is from a posed professionally-taken photograph, undoubtedly with digital finishing. In fact, it looks like her head was superimposed on a picture of someone else’s body.

    PS She ain’t no 5/6 to me, but admittedly, I’m a petiteophile.

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  20. on March 11, 2011 at 9:48 pm senseiern

    This is not new. Ten years before Clinton, 60 Minutes did a report on the women that JFK sexed up. They all said they loved him and would never love another.

    At the time of the interview, they were all horrid beasts. In their prime, from the 1960s photos, not all of them looked fuckable.

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  21. on March 11, 2011 at 10:21 pm betondo fuchatuch

    Bubbameat.

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  22. on March 11, 2011 at 10:36 pm Ken

    Great, so you want to fellate Clinton as well.

    Tell you what, why don’t I just skip the negs and the touching, yada yada yada, and just skip to dodging the draft and setting 7th Day Adventist children on fire? Maybe I’ll also defect to the USSR like Clinton allegedly did.

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  23. on March 11, 2011 at 10:40 pm dragnet

    Yeah.

    Look, folks: not even (super) alphas bat 1000. Just not possible. Every alpha—every single one—has at least one fuck they are not proud of. And most of us have more than one, if we’re honest.

    This isn’t the story. The real story is the immense collateral fallout an alpha can leave in his wake. Bill didn’t just damage Monica for life, he was the cause of the bitterness & despair that engulfed every poor beta she’s rejected over the years while waiting for Bill to come back to her. When alphas fuck below their station, they not only fuck over the girl for life they basically guarantee at least 10 (usually more) betas get the Heisman from the still-lovestruck, delusional heifer. These betas then ooze discontent or drop-out of the SMP, further reinforcing the hypergamous impulses of the women and the vicious cycle repeats.

    What a cruel world.

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  24. on March 11, 2011 at 10:46 pm Ken

    For those of you who faint at the mention of guns–sorry, I forgot that you are mostly beta males coming here for advice–that was not a threat, so you can put your 911 call down. I was referring to Clinton’s draconian gun control policy, which to pretty much everyone in the shooting community is FAR more important than some fat girl.

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  25. on March 11, 2011 at 10:51 pm T-Doggz

    Well done Chateau! I was wondering about this cow recently. Turns out she ended up just like I imagined. Adrift. A bad joke. As appealing as a hangover on January 2.

    I wonder though – is it that she won’t settle for beta or that even beta’s don’t want to touch her?

    She’s so nasty. Even if she wasn’t fat, she’s still a stupid, stuck up, think she’s all that bitch. She’s a name dropper to boot. I can’t think of any redeeming qualities she has. None.

    Anyone who marries this chick knows he’s getting the worlds’ worst sloppy seconds. I’d like to see who’s up for that. Though someone probably is.

    What I love about her story is how it messes up the feminist crowd. They hate her for humiliating Hillary. But they know they’re supposed to pity her for being used by a powerful man. What’s a good liberal woman to do? Blame Bill for not being able to get it up for the shrew I guess. Then pretend like Lewinski doesn’t even exist anymore. (Probably the worst thing that could happen to a needy ho like Monica!)

    Ahh. So much fun.

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  26. on March 11, 2011 at 11:20 pm james

    Come on guys. She wasn’t that bad looking, just overweight. She had a nice mouth. Good teeth. The chubby hands may have spoiled the moment.

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  27. on March 11, 2011 at 11:38 pm Tairos

    “Evidence of female hypergamy is everywhere – and that’s fairly strong support for Game”

    No, that’s fairly strong support for social conservatism that prevents a few “alphas” from roaming around rapaciously destroying gender relations and thereby society at large.

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  28. on March 11, 2011 at 11:44 pm whiskey

    Oh hahahahahahaha! Too funny.

    Alpha male inflates fat chick sense of self-worth far beyond anything, she does give the brush off to plenty of beta males. There were likely a good many who would have settled for even her. But hey, she had five minutes of sexual service to Bubba, so that’s it.

    Of course Monica is nothing but a fat whore, lets face it, and most self-respecting betas would rather watch porn or play WoW or something, but even she could and likely did attract some guys around. But she thinks she’s Giselle Bundchen or something instead of the reality — an aging, fat whore of very little interest to anyone.

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  29. on March 11, 2011 at 11:46 pm Rum

    Re: Collateral damage, stalkers, and unending female delusions.

    Some things cannot be prevented; only dealt with as they happen. One could argue that W.J. Clinton should not have diddled with M. Lewinsky. On moral grounds, whatever. But consider that Clinton would never have gotten to the W. House in the first place if he were not the kind of guy who would take on the crazy risks inherent in letting a 21 yr. old star crossed Intern get past his zipper. Of course he was exhibiting crazy-stupid risk taking behavior at that point. But crazy-stupid risk taking is simply and inevitably going to be part of the picture if you expect to get from Hope Fucking Arkansas to the White House in one short lifetime.
    Besides, if you read between the lines of Clintons writings it is pretty clear that his swollen, thrusting ambition was largely fueled by a raving hunger for poon.
    Some things come as a package-deal. Buy the ticket, take the ride. Unleash the inner alpha – find a way to smile when a hyperventilating fragment of your pussy portfolio parks in front of your place and honks her horn constantly for hours while calling from her cell phone about 4 times a minute. And all you did was cum on her tits in the mens room of a micro-brewery. It is not like she didn’t already have a husband who adored her. And she followed me in there.
    There are times when certain things happen the way they do because of the deep natures of the people involved.

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  30. on March 12, 2011 at 12:11 am Rum

    I might be falling in luv with the Financial Chick. Tonight we had this conversation where she went on and on – with some light prompting from me – about how her clients always got 10-20% returns year after year, with no risk at all, etc. It was all complete and utter bullshit. But she is so deeply, fundamentally hot; I doubt if her clients even care if they make or lose money. They just want her to put her sweet hands on it and smile at them.
    This conversation happened as we were wedged together on barstools in a crowded place and as I was finger-banging her. I think she came at least once but the bullshit parade never wavered. Her maiden name was Bernanke, as I recall.

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  31. on March 12, 2011 at 12:16 am Good Luck Chuck

    Yet another reason why american women are undateable. Half of them are incapable of investing themselves emotionally because they are too busy thinking they still have a “connection” with some dude who used them as a cumrag once or twice.

    And please, lets avoid turning this into another “is he really an alpha?” wankfest. If you believe for one second that having the title of POTUSA does not automatically make you a SUPER alpha, you need to turn off the computer and join the real world.

    Seriously.

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  32. on March 12, 2011 at 1:24 am Jack

    After the scandal, she was undatable for any respectable American man. Not unfuckable, but undatable.

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  33. on March 12, 2011 at 1:34 am Gorbachev

    Bend down on one knee and make obeisance to the power of the Hamster.

    ONE

    I have one in particular, who was heartbroken and never settled, or maybe even dated at all, after we ended it. I reconciled with her recently; she’d been single, relentlessly, despite the entreaties of her friends, for years. When she saw me again (for a little nice-to-see-you-how-is-life, sorry about how it all worked out, it was very good too bad we weren’t in the same place it was a beautiful sad thing) it was bittersweet and etc. I didn’t feel guilty, okay, I felt guilty and it was nice to see her. But she was still heartbroken. And she had that bitterness and cynicism that women get after being dumped by The Guy Who Was Alpha And Loved Me. But she was sweet and wonderful, and despite not being vastly attractive, was a little light in a dark room and it was hard not to love her. Of course she’s *still* pretty hot, as she’s not that old yet. The bloom hasn’t yet gone off the rose, at only 28. And the sadness seems to have distilled a kind of lovelorn thing in her that’s not unattractive.

    Oh, yeah, and she’s Korean, so she’s not a fat bulbous tank of lard. Might have something to do with it.

    TWO

    Another one who still won’t give ME a second look after 10 years. It is to blink and stare in dazed amazement. And I’m not even in Arrogant Bastard mode yet. Here it is:

    In college, long before I got married, I was smitten by this hottie who was destined to go into publishing (underpaid no-status status-whoring for a certain class of woman). She was a tease. She was a solid 7.5, had a large flock of beta orbiters, was “picky and choosy”, claimed to respect Brains above all else (ahem, … a flock of beta orbiters would beg to demonstrate otherwise) and I remember a couple of nights spent with her (no sex) while we stayed up late and “bonded” and explored the limits of positive friendship. And the occasional bottle of wine *I* sprung for so we copuld while away the hours talking about philosophy and life and all that shit while she looked dreamy and seemed to be thinking of men – and not me.

    Little did I know back then that had I given her the look and turned her over and fucked her like a dog from the start, and then spent fifteen years ignoring her, she might have worshipped me.

    Within 2 years of graduating, Miss No Man Is Good Enough For This Pussy shacked up with her Alpha. He was–

    – Slightly tubby, but not fat
    – 15 years older than her, at least
    – In a job that was cool but not great (publishing – an author – of middling to lower status, one good novel, a lot of utter dreck, his career long over and not going anywhere)
    – Saddled with a vicious ex and a kid who was being trained to hate him
    – Charming and brilliant (I’m pretty charming, too, you little tart, and I”m your age, aren’t you feminist enough to see ME STANDING OVER HERE, fine ignore me you cunt)
    – treated her like crap: Saw her when he wanted, never called, never made plans, etc. Fucked her good when he wanted to.

    To summarize: For him, she was a convenient lay from time to time. And not so convenient much of the time. Pretty much.

    For her, he was her Significant Formative Relationship And True Soul Mate. It was true. Almost a decade and a half later, she’s STILL PINING HOPELESSLY FOR HIM.

    If she were a guy, this is what I’d say:
    What a fucking loser. Talk about your close-to-zeroes. You’re a bizarre excuse for manhood, you sackless bag of shit.

    But no. You see, She is Woman, and Arnie the Hamster she’s got chained up in her fat-benumbed brain runs double time to keep up with her fantasyland.

    She lorded her “I’m so picky I’m great” attitude all over the place. By Gum, you should have seen her facebook. You’d think she was Farrah Fawcett and it was 1977 to judge by the adulation she got from *other women* (no men at this point) and the preening self-confidence that oozed from every.. last… syllable. Oh my God I hate Facebook.

    Back then, I had no way to understand what the fuck was going on. Now, it’s obvious and not even interesting.

    It’s a decade and a half later. She’s still strung out on this guy. SHE STILL GOES OVER TO THE UK TO SEE HIM FROM TIME TO TIME, maybe once a year, when he (and I’m quoting) “Tries to make time to see me, because it’s so complicated” – Translation – WHAT A NIGHTMARE SHE MUST BE FOR HIM.

    And her tired old benumbed man is just, … getting old. No man has ever been able to take his place. She’s now 37 and single and childless and–
    Fat (it’s shocking)
    Much, much less attractive (3 or 4 from a 7.5 – shakes head, the tragedy of it all)
    not that interesting.

    And then there are the jokes about he can’t touch her, because it would be “unethical”. As in,
    SHE’S BUTT-UGLY AND MR. ALPHA HAS NO INTEREST IN SLIPPING IT BETWEEN HER GINORMOUS ASS.

    Are women REALLY this stupid? Delusional? I mean, you and I and the rest of us and his uncle all get this shit. What the living fuck is wrong with women?

    Okay, diatribe done.

    Okay, now here’s my story.

    I met up with her last year, accidentally bumping in to her in NYC. It was a busy streetcorner, no time to stop and chat, but there was that instant of recognition (me: “That can’t be … you used to be so pretty, what the hell happened?”), and then we exchanged email addresses as I ran off to an interview. Gratuitous aside: I hate NYC. Here’s hating you, you pile of stinking filthy garbage.

    I emailed and mentioned that we could get lunch –

    just to get lunch, there’s not a chance of snowballs rolling down little hills in hell that I’d be into her, so far less than zero after these 15 years that it’s not even worth reporting it –

    and she wrote back ON MY FUCKING FACEBOOK WALL because these brainless twaddles we call human Females insist on doing EVERY FUCKING THING ON FACEBOOK FOR THE WORLD TO SEE, you narcissistic self-obsessed drama-addicted whores

    Ahem, sorry about that.
    “Facebook.” Cough: Gollum, Gollum. Spit.

    “We always had this great dynamic and you know, things are complicated, and if it wasn’t for (name) I could go for lunch, but you know how it is. I like you, but you should know.”

    What

    The

    Fuck?

    She was priming me for rejection because her 53 year-old loser ex-lover, STILL LIVING WITH THE HARRIDAN WHO RUINED HIS LIFE, AND TIED TO HER AS MEGA-ULTRA UEBER-BETA (in that relationship), who USES HER FOR SEX — Or DID use her for sex, until about 6 years ago, when all sexing voluntarily stopped from his end– might still be in the picture?

    Are you deliriously serious?

    Please, woman, if I wanted to *date* you, you’d fucking know it, you dry-faced, frizzled moo moo cunt. There’d be no need to prereject me if I was asking how things were. If there was any rejection going to happen here, you delusional waddling hag, it would be not remembering your name.

    (There was no bitterness in me until she wrote this shit on my wall. First, don’t write shit on my wall. In fact, don’t go to my Facebook. Second, you thought for one little grandiose moment that I was picking you up? Oh please.)

    Women just don’t see it, but there’s no mystery in their little psychodramas any more. Pretty much every one of your secrets has leaked out, Womyn, we know what makes your febrile little brains work.

    It’s so painfully predictable it’s almost not worth mentioning any more.

    Before I called the hot chick who used to sarge with me from time to time, and who was genuinely worth unzipping my pants for should the mood ever take us, I just signed in to facebook and wrote this on her wall:

    “Some kinds of women love the men who despise them, but for this, that familiarity breeds contempt.” – it was a quote from (someone).

    She didn’t get it.
    She responded, “Too true, too true”.

    I actually didn’t want to Alpha up after 15 years by saying anything to her – no need, actually, less than zero interest even from a theoretical or revenge point of view, I have no personal dislike for her and I certainly don’t need to score points. I just wanted to see if she got it.

    What was laughable, hillarious, bend-me-over-backwards and shove a fork in my ass funny was this:

    That she thought for a nanosecond that I was gunning after her. Was she THAT disconnected from reality that she thought casually dropping a let’s do lunch in an email after a chance meeting was a pickup? After 15 years?

    Talk about beefy hamsters.

    Plug that sucker up to a generator and we could power Las Vegas for a week.

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  34. on March 12, 2011 at 3:47 am Little Queenie

    Seeing as I have accumulated a fair amount of stalkers over my lifetime, I’m certain there are ex-girlfriends who still to this day cannot get over me, and have bid their time alone rather than settle for second-best.

    Am I the only one who smells bullshit?

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  35. on March 12, 2011 at 5:04 am Tarl

    At the start of 2000, Lewinsky began appearing in television commercials for Jenny Craig, Inc. The $1 million endorsement deal, which required Lewinsky to lose 40 or more pounds in six months, gained considerable publicity at the time.

    Heh heh heh, I guess she didn’t say anything about keeping the weight off afterward…

    A lot of Bill’s women are plus-sized. He likes ’em plump!

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  36. on March 12, 2011 at 6:06 am Anonymous

    Any head to tie shots of Monica at age 37?

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  37. on March 12, 2011 at 6:30 am Bounder

    Little whore who was always told by her lower-middle class beta father that she was a princess,

    Stalkers are not that uncommon for men with any game.

    Hell, even I had a stalker.

    It was, as expected, the least attractive girl I’ve ever had a relationship with. Her brother was dying of some terrible malady and I felt bad about breaking it off so the relationship DRAGGEEEEEEEEEED far longer than it had any right to. (This is why slumming it is a very bad idea.)

    At one point she tried calling me 25 times a day and would show up at my work and home at all hours of the day and night.

    I’ve not got the notch count that some of the proprietors of this fine establishment do. I can imagine at least 3 or 4 stalkers for a true alpha.

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  38. on March 12, 2011 at 7:33 am Anonymous

    The shocking truth is that in reality she looks about ten years older than that photo and a lot uglier too, while her list of non-negotiable partner requirements has expanded in inverse proportion to her sex appeal.

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  39. on March 12, 2011 at 8:13 am Karsten

    That said, it is possible Bill loved Monica. I mean, the guy was married to hatchet-faced Hillary ferkrissakes. A young, albeit chubby, chick working within his line of sight could very easily inspire a gush of genuine love from a suffering older man long-married to a ballcutting feminist shrike.

    With the author of this blog’s fetish for emaciated women, I appreciate the fact that he made the above observation, which I think is absolutely true and genuinely explains why Bill took to Monica.

    No matter how unattractive one thinks Monica Lewisky is, or was (I thought she was pretty on the outside — just severely messed up on the inside), anything, but anything, would be a relief from the monstrosity that is Hillary.

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  40. on March 12, 2011 at 8:20 am Jerry

    I want to see some real up-to-date photos.

    I’ll note again that it was the Monica “scandal” that brought on the feminist takeover of the Republican Party.

    That is when the PUMA women switched sides as if men needed or wanted them on the right (PUMA = Party Unity My Ass).

    PUMAs loved Hillary and thought that Gore wasn’t horrified enough at the idea of Bill being involved with a younger woman.

    They wanted Al to be furious at Bill (they didn’t know that Al was a beta who would later beg a 40 year old masseuse to be friendly with him).

    All the PUMAs had to do was conveniently switch sides on the abortion issue, which was never a serious feminist cause (everyone of these elites knew she could always get an abortion in France so the issue in the US has just been a way to split the male vote for a divide and conquer strategy).

    They got lots of conservative men to say “The problem was that Clinton lied under oath.” The real reason, for them, was that they wanted the Republican Party to hate the idea of men in power sleeping with interns and employees. They were the original Democrat feminists who got the sexual harassment laws written and passed in the first place (to stop older men in power from exercising a prerogative/outlet to sleep with younger women).

    PUMAs hated Obama for beating Hillary, which means they are still hanging out on the GOP side. I’d say that Palin is a friend of this crowd, but she could still prove me wrong.

    I’d like to see the Chateau help exorcise the PUMA witches out of the GOP during the coming presidential nomination process.

    ———————

    O/T: anyone see how politically correct American guys on Twitter actually caused a firestorm last night by claiming, falsely, that a CNN anchor (Australian female) made a Godzilla joke last night regarding Japan?

    I’m sorry but Godzilla and Mothra were the first thing that came to my mind. It doesn’t make the tragedy of the earthquake funny, but I’m also not about to claim the tragedy was all that avoidable and unnatural either.

    Black humor is nervous laughter. The way most people died yesterday could have happened to any of us or our families. It isn’t even funny that someone in California was drowned by the Tsunami despite a 9 hour warning, but black humor about that can be expected and might make others laugh who know it could have been them out on the beach curious about what a tsunami would be like after it crossed the entire Pacific.

    ABC News released a ticker headline saying “Monster effort underway to find and help survivors”.

    There is no reason to fire the person at ABC who wrote that.

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  41. on March 12, 2011 at 8:26 am Wouldn't you like to know

    Animal print is never a good idea for big girls. Even though she’s smiling in the pic, Monica looks so sad. It’s in her eyes …

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  42. on March 12, 2011 at 9:42 am Obstinance Works

    you combine his charmingly Ozarkian attentions with

    Oh garsh. Cockadoodledo.

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  43. on March 12, 2011 at 9:43 am Doug1

    Chateau–

    A bloated seacow like Lewinsky should be ecstatic to receive the attention of a middling beta male, but after Bill’s tender ministrations her hamster lurched all the way to hyperdrive and warped into a parallel mentalverse where she thinks dropping on bended knee to service the Cock in Chief a few times is proof he loves her and she has the goods to attract the very highest value men.

    I don’t really disagree with this point, BUT. When Clinton first took up with Monica Lewiniski she wasn’t a bloated sea cow but actually quite cute. Yeah maybe she looked like she had tendencies to bloat but she wasn’t yet.

    She became bloated, fast, when the scandal started leaking.

    http://ofakind.tumblr.com/post/2340877707/known-entities-monica-lewinsky

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  44. on March 12, 2011 at 9:44 am Obstinance Works

    Haha bounder. My stalker is 17, and I’m not sure or not if I want her around like that chick Rose.

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  45. on March 12, 2011 at 9:58 am Lara

    It is actually kind of sweet how much she loves him.

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  46. on March 12, 2011 at 10:10 am Lara

    It was probably so thrilling to be with Bill, that she was always wishing it were him when she was in the company of another man.

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  47. on March 12, 2011 at 10:54 am spiralina

    This is why smart women will stick to greater betas and never, ever cheat. Less regret, less confusion, less chance of abandonment and loneliness later in life, fewer STDs. There’s more to life than tingles and you can even get those from a beta, provided he has a little game.

    But I guess the men on this blog have figured out how to benefit from women’s stupidity, and with good reason. Even the shallowest alpha cad will have groupies lining up to service him, while a good hardworking man will struggle to get even one woman to be faithful. Sad but true.

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  48. on March 12, 2011 at 11:07 am Jerry

    @spiralina

    It gets to be even more bad news for Betas and those who want to choose them:

    Check out the Vulnerability Game post.

    Alphas are going to eat the Betas’ lunch as well by pretending they are Betas when necessary.

    Men who are cheating on you will behave beta to cover it up. Think about it. Don’t you get suspicious when a man brings you flowers?

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  49. on March 12, 2011 at 11:18 am Ed

    “Are women REALLY this stupid? Delusional? I mean, you and I and the rest of us and his uncle all get this shit. What the living fuck is wrong with women?”

    Hi – I’m a gay dude who has been following this blog religiously for quite some time to improve my game. I credit this blog for helping me bag a really sexy, intelligent guy who has fallen head over heels for me. It has helped me enormously.

    Anyway … what I still don’t understand is why women are so schizo about what kind of guy they want. I get the concept of hypergamy, but why don’t they just admit they want to be with the dominant bad boy instead of saying they want the nice guy and fucking the opposite? Why do they like to watch the romantic comedies with the buffoonish neurotic beta guy like Hugh Grant . . . but in reality they want to fuck Vin Diesel from Fast & Furious (a movie they wouldn’t actually watch).

    Do you think this is something inherent in female evo-psych? Or is it more social conditioning? Is it because pretty American white girls are so ridiculously sheltered and pedastalised they can afford to afford to entertain these Twilight-esque fantasies?

    Please enlighten me … this stuff is interesting to me.

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  50. on March 12, 2011 at 12:24 pm Yikes

    I feel sad for Monica. I don’t think there is a chance in hell that Bill Clinton ever loved her, or even cared about her.

    It may be worth noting though that Bill Clinton is a natural alpha, he was alpha before he became POTUS and is still an alpha male, which may explain why she is still hung up on him.

    I do disagree w/this blog’s definition of “alpha” as solely based on how many women a man can get. There are loads of billionare betas that could have any woman they want due to their power and money, but they’re still beta shlubs.

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  51. on March 12, 2011 at 12:28 pm Firepower

    Gorbachev

    Talk about beefy hamsters.

    um, you’re expounding quite expertly…at length. No surprise though: gooks love hamster casserole.
    =========

    If Sick Willy were a true alpha, he would have had repeated vaginal intercourse with her on Roosevelt’s Desk.

    Like a Kennedy.

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  52. on March 12, 2011 at 12:32 pm Gorbachev

    @Firepower
    Gorbachev
    Talk about beefy hamsters.

    um, you’re expounding quite expertly…at length. No surprise though: gooks love hamster casserole.

    I love you, Firepower. You know I do it all for you.

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  53. on March 12, 2011 at 12:59 pm Rum

    Ed
    My answer to your question is that, for women, true awareness of their real sexual instincts would simply get in the way of, and never help, the completion of their genetically programmed mission. And that mission is to have as many pregnancies as possible be from the sperm of guys who will most likely never stick around to help while simultaneously keeping the loyalty and the support of guys who will.
    See why they are better off with an interior reality blocking system? Completing the Mission requires a lot of deception. And what improves the effectiveness of deception more than the one doing the deception being unaware of the truth? That unawareness is Natures Gift to a gender that has a Mission that is inherently dangerous to carry out. Since the males in the picture can always flatten the females head if it suddenly seems right to do so.

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  54. on March 12, 2011 at 1:03 pm Good Luck Chuck

    Ed

    Anyway … what I still don’t understand is why women are so schizo about what kind of guy they want. I get the concept of hypergamy, but why don’t they just admit they want to be with the dominant bad boy instead of saying they want the nice guy and fucking the opposite? Why do they like to watch the romantic comedies with the buffoonish neurotic beta guy like Hugh Grant . . . but in reality they want to fuck Vin Diesel from Fast & Furious (a movie they wouldn’t actually watch).

    Do you think this is something inherent in female evo-psych? Or is it more social conditioning? Is it because pretty American white girls are so ridiculously sheltered and pedastalised they can afford to afford to entertain these Twilight-esque fantasies?

    It’s the granddaddy of all shit tests.

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  55. on March 12, 2011 at 1:22 pm collegeslacker

    @Bounder

    Absolutely correct. I’ve had two stalkers in my short lifetime, and both were 5s. Stupid, drunk decisions to dumpster dive are never good.

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  56. on March 12, 2011 at 1:46 pm Me

    @whorefinder

    Clinton’s hesitation comes from his desire for a socialist state. He is a socialist through and through, like his disgusting “wife”.

    Don’t think for a second he isn’t evil.

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  57. on March 12, 2011 at 2:16 pm Gorbachev

    @Ed
    “Are women REALLY this stupid? Delusional? I mean, you and I and the rest of us and his uncle all get this shit. What the living fuck is wrong with women?”

    Hi – I’m a gay dude who has been following this blog religiously for quite some time to improve my game. I credit this blog for helping me bag a really sexy, intelligent guy who has fallen head over heels for me. It has helped me enormously.

    Works on dudes, too? Wow. never thought about it.

    Anyway … what I still don’t understand is why women are so schizo about what kind of guy they want.

    There are evo psych speculations about this, but that’s what they are. The truth is still the truth, though.

    I get the concept of hypergamy, but why don’t they just admit they want to be with the dominant bad boy instead of saying they want the nice guy and fucking the opposite?

    It’s duplicitous. They’re cheating themselves. They actually believe what they say – you can’t blame them. It’s the Hamster.

    Why do they like to watch the romantic comedies with the buffoonish neurotic beta guy like Hugh Grant . . . but in reality they want to fuck Vin Diesel from Fast & Furious (a movie they wouldn’t actually watch).

    They’re not in touch with what turns them on, sexually. There are two strategies in action, multiple mechanisms. You’re looking for monolithic motivations. it’s all made simpler when you realize that it IS actually schizophrenic – there are multiple sexual selection mechanisms at work concurrently.

    It explains a lot about the specifically female capriciousness and dishonesty that men experience. Men have been commenting on this for thousands of years. it’s not an illusion. Women are, relatively speaking, just more dishonest about these sorts of things than men are, and they change their minds in what appears to be whimsy.

    It’s because they’re literally not of one mind when it comes to this issue.

    The explanation is demonstrable, reasonable, models well, and parsimonious, with a minimum of hate. Accounts for data, too.

    For feminists to deny it is just a symptom of their inherent disingenuity. Their own hamsters refuse to let them believe it.

    The liar actually believes her own lies, or it’s hard to carry them off. You may, indeed, be dealing with two separate sexual personalities within the same person – what’s true one second simply isn’t true the next second.

    What we see as the “whole” person is actually a composite.

    I suspect much of human nature is the same. We’re composite functions of often competing processes.

    Do you think this is something inherent in female evo-psych? Or is it more social conditioning? Is it because pretty American white girls are so ridiculously sheltered and pedastalised they can afford to afford to entertain these Twilight-esque fantasies?

    Nah, it’s too culturally universal for it to be culturally dependent.

    At most, it has a dynamic relationship with culture: a self-reinforcing feedback loop. One generates the other, back and forth.

    Please enlighten me … this stuff is interesting to me.

    I think I’m right on target with this.

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  58. on March 12, 2011 at 2:19 pm commenter53

    @ken

    Who the fuck you talking to. Get back on the meds dude

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  59. on March 12, 2011 at 3:20 pm Hypertroll

    In other words: the “alpha pump and dump” does not, as previously claimed on this blog, make a woman more likely to settle.

    [Editor: That was never claimed on this blog. What was likely written here by the authors is that a woman who has experienced multiple pump and dumps might learn to settle with a beta once the wall looms, but this settling process occurs in all single aging women regardless of how many cocks they rode in their primes. At worst, spending years getting humped and dumped by alpha males will cause a woman to retreat from the dating market altogether instead of learn to love a beta once she has nothing of sexual value left to offer. At best, it will cause her to realistically reappraise her sexual worth and settle for the provider beta.]

    It is not a public service which benefits the would-be faithful husbands of the world.

    It is, in fact, the exact opposite.

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  60. on March 12, 2011 at 4:59 pm Bounder

    Gorby,

    Good comment.

    We should keep in mind that the men are a composite of sexual strategies as well.

    My bet is that there are at least three.

    1. Typical Beta provider.

    This strategy is what transitioned human beings from small pockets of hunter/gatherers to large agricultural communities. Men commit resources to a single female who they tightly control in order to insure, as much as possible, that their offspring are the ones that have an increased chance of survival.

    This strategy is highly vulnerable to the next two.

    2. Alpha /Cuckoldry/ Seduction

    A highly sexually attractive or high status male mates with lower status woman at whim and spreads his seed as far as possible. The individual offspring sink or swim on their own. This strategy is even more effective if the woman selected actually has a beta provider to step in and donate resources to the child.

    This is obviously corrosive to the development of social cohesion, and was highly punished in earlier iterations of civilization. The very highest status men were exempt from this prohibition. However, even the most beta of men will usually drop a load in a strange female should he be able to get away with it.

    3. Coalition raiding/Rape

    No real need to get into this here but a study of history and comparative biology with chimps should highlight the evolutionary advantages of these strategies for males having difficulty getting access to females.

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  61. on March 12, 2011 at 5:34 pm Gorbachev

    @Bounder,

    3. Coalition raiding/Rape
    No real need to get into this here but a study of history and comparative biology with chimps should highlight the evolutionary advantages of these strategies for males having difficulty getting access to females.

    This is more common than you might think.

    Add in: “getting access to HIGH QUALITY females.”

    This will also be a strongly programmed instinct. It’s going to be genetically linked. There’s powerful evidence from the animal (and human) worlds that this is passed on genetically.

    Note that *women* pass this gene on to their kids, both male and female. It may only express itself among males, but remember – genes have to be able to work in both males and females.

    Women get wet for violent men. They may hate them, fear them, etc., but it’s a hard fact that women, especially young women, are turned on by violent and successfully violent men. Dominating men who use use violence towards others are almost always “courted” by hot young women. These women will excuse virtually anything the man does as “he’s not really like that.”.

    For all the feminist bullshit, feminists can’t deny actual biology.

    Say what you want, we’re animals. Those animal biological programs are the reason we’re alive now.

    Happy happy joy joy justice instincts just don’t really exist.
    All instincts are about making more and more successful babies who go on to do the same.

    Your or my life or our values are utterly irrelevant to this biological purpose. At best, our conscious minds are interesting evolutionary side-effects and biological tricks. Sexual selection run amok. The Red Queen exaggerating something out of proportion.

    Rail and scream and cry about it, but there’s obviously a “rape gene” and a suite of behaviors that are easy to predict. I mean real rape, not date rape.

    Women are turned on by it on some level, and this is also obviously true, deny it as they may; what terrifies them is when their own reproductive strategy fails (the rapist isn’t an Alpha Male they’d be attracted to – he’s an Omega taking advantage of a social break).

    Men do it as one of selective set of social programs, like you suggest, but the power of this genetic urge will depend on how the environment molds a set of genetic behavioral tendencies.

    Given the different rape levels in crime stats, organized by various obvious genetic factors, there’s a clear indication of some groups for whose males this strategy has been more successful in the past than it has been for others. This is also predictable: Settled agricultural societies are going to tolerate this kind of random gang-rape behavior a LOT less, as such males will be hunted down and killed by allied Beta males, assisted by a “king” or power central that has an interest in keeping the taxes/manpower/resources coming in and therefore has to minimally serve the security of the Beta males.

    So the most recent tragedy in Texas is, … significant, because it’s not just a Male crime. It’s got a specific cultural and social locus.

    You guess what that is.

    See how the libtards explain that away.

    (and before you liberals say this is all a misuse of scientific notions, there’s no way all of these patterns coalesce so perfectly and so predictably. In your heart of hearts, you know there’s something to it. You don’t want it to be true. But it is.

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  62. on March 12, 2011 at 6:01 pm Bounder

    It’s laughable that feminists today insist that rape is “not about sexuality” but rather “an expression of power”.

    The amount of hamster-wheel spinning that it took to come up with that boggles the mind.

    @Gorb

    Interestingly, it has been well-documented that women have a number of adaptations to survive rape with minimal damage.

    Most women will get sexually aroused, provide vaginal lubrication to their rapist and even orgasm during a rape; this is well-documented in the legal field. This insures that the intercourse doesn’t damage their vagina or reproductive system. Also, burgeoning research indicates that female orgasm increases the probability of conception.

    As for female rape fantasy, I happen to agree with you. It is more an expression of the desire to mate with alpha males without being punished by the social order. I have a belief that women in marriage or restrictive social arrangements develop rape fantasies as an outlet for their desires.

    The tendency to over-value rape as a crime, when women can recover quite quickly from it, is due to the fears you express. Namely, that an omega will use rape as a means to get access to their sexuality. This is the major fear of a hypergamous mind.

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  63. on March 12, 2011 at 6:06 pm Anonymous

    To the comments way at the top, the beta “equivalent” of a pimp is a poor bastard who is OK with other people fucking his wife.

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  64. on March 12, 2011 at 6:25 pm Gorbachev

    @Bounder,

    Yes, it’s true; a genes want to be transmitted, and mated with excellent (dominant/sexually successful) genes of others. A woman’s genes would be losing out if she made a fuss about being raped by a successful, powerful male who could provide a strong son or a daughter who could in turn provide strong sons.

    Essentially, humans – both male and female – have rape genes. Note that in many mammals, chasing down a female, overpowering her and dominating her – and then obliging her if not forcing her to have sex – is *the* way these animals mate. And in some cases, males ally to do this.

    There’s no way to call dolphin mating anything but wear-out-and-gang-rape-females.

    I’m not advocating for rape, just just to point out that sexuality was never designed for equality or justice or domination or male supremacy or anything other than one specific thing:

    Mating success.

    All other concerns are background noise to the Genes.

    So when we talk about a “rape gene”, we’re talking about genetically programmed urges to acquire sex – by any means necessary, AND TO BE FUCKED by a male who is ABLE to defy the social order and impregnate you and provide equally capable sons.

    it works both ways.

    The consistency of the “dominate me” and rape fantasies among the majority of women I’ve been with – a large enough sample to be scientifically valid on a local scale, at least, and totally cross-cultural – is evidence enough for me.

    One story that a year after the fact had a woman (who is still around) thinking about fucking me:

    – We met, went out to a club, blah blah blah, after a few times, I just looked at her and said, come to this hotel with me (Korea). She did.

    When we got in, I just took her. No playing, no pussyfooting, I just grabbed her, devoured her and fucked her until we were both so exhausted we could barely move.

    By any measure, it was rough. I wasn’t even pretending to be romantic. In fact, there were episodes that bordered on physically forcing her.

    Not only did she love it, despite the fact that I wasn’t “her type”, she fucked me for over a year. She craved the animal.

    And the animal meant: Take me, you bastard.

    Romance is nice, but being forceful in bed has guaranteed me return visits by any woman I was ever with. Even one (younger) who was shocked and disturbed by it was so turned on it made her tingle when we met up. She said she wasn’t supposed to like it, and then asked me to fuck her more.

    This is just my own experience.

    NOW

    What would have happened if I’d have miscalibrated this and one woman actually charged me with rape? It’s possible. Of course, not in situations *I’ve* been in, but it’s possible, had I had poorer social skills, less experience, been really desperate to fuck, or been less intelligent, generally.

    Also, if I had been more of a genuine asshole (as in, I know you want to fuck me, little whore, bend over or I’ll smack you – and girl really doesn’t want to fuck).

    Human sexuality isn’t made for the neat categories of a legal system, with clearly delineated lines of guilt and responsibility. It’s meant for the world of reproduction and raw survival where every moment could result in death from parasites, predators, diseases, starvation, thirst, environment or other members of your own species. In that world, niceties like justice and fairness and careful thought are kinda afterthoughts.

    Not to justify rape. But just to say–

    Human instincts aren’t the neat little controllable things that liberals like to think they are. Put 16 year-olds in a room and you’re going to get babies. Sometimes, the women won’t want to have sex. Sometimes they will.

    SOmetimes they’ll SAY they don’t for a whole list of reasons, but they want that dick in them more than anything else in the world. They crave it and want the guy to just force it in. I’ve had women demand this. I learned to stop apologizing for anything during sex a long time ago.

    On the other hand, the romance is nice, too.

    Sometimes, women really don’t want to have sex.

    Givem the range of smarts/social skills/needs/delusions that abound in the world of men, how the hell is the average guy supposed to always make the right judgment?

    In the marginal cases, are guys supposed to go to jail? When there’s obvious knowledge of social guilt, maybe. But a lot of this shit is pretty dodgy.

    Feminists would want all of human sexuality tightly regulated.

    The problem is, as women have told me, what THEY WANT isn’t legislatable.

    You can’t make women want the nice, romantic, gentle guy all the time. You can’t force them to like it. You can’t make them not pick the bad boy who bends them over the chair and has his way.

    There’s just no way to do that.

    At least half the targets of feminist activism should be women.

    BTW, I’m all for fathers not letting daughters hang around men until he wants his daughters to be pumped and dumped. Men can be dangerous. TO believe otherwise is ridiculous.

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  65. on March 12, 2011 at 6:54 pm Doug1

    Gorb–

    The consistency of the “dominate me” and rape fantasies among the majority of women I’ve been with – a large enough sample to be scientifically valid on a local scale, at least, and totally cross-cultural – is evidence enough for me.

    One story that a year after the fact had a woman (who is still around) thinking about fucking me:

    – We met, went out to a club, blah blah blah, after a few times, I just looked at her and said, come to this hotel with me (Korea). She did.

    When we got in, I just took her. No playing, no pussyfooting, I just grabbed her, devoured her and fucked her until we were both so exhausted we could barely move.

    By any measure, it was rough. I wasn’t even pretending to be romantic. In fact, there were episodes that bordered on physically forcing her.

    Not only did she love it, despite the fact that I wasn’t “her type”, she fucked me for over a year. She craved the animal.

    And the animal meant: Take me, you bastard.

    Romance is nice, but being forceful in bed has guaranteed me return visits by any woman I was ever with. Even one (younger) who was shocked and disturbed by it was so turned on it made her tingle when we met up. She said she wasn’t supposed to like it, and then asked me to fuck her more.

    This is just my own experience.

    Yuup.

    It’s just my own experience as well.

    I think a lot of what the game part of being alpha really amounts to is signaling to her that your gonna be like this, in a socially intelligent way that’s leading her and inducing her into wanting this as opposed an authoritarian kind of forcing.

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  66. on March 12, 2011 at 6:55 pm Doug1

    Feminist ideology about male dominance over girls being bad, definitely gets in the way of hot sex w/alphas.

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  67. on March 12, 2011 at 6:57 pm Gorbachev

    I’d never sanction rape.

    But – human sexuality is not as simple as “he raped me, it’s like murder.”

    It’s only like “murder” because the male broke the Female’s Hypergamous desire to prevent omega / beta sperm from impregnating her. He Violated her Choice of Mate. From a male perspective, purely, it’s just a crime if the woman belonged to him or his family; thus, the errant male offended the female family’s genetic line.

    Look at most non-modern law. That’s how it worked: it was based on offences to a genetic family unit. You Savaged our Woman Without Our Consent, We Didn’t Check You Out.

    In those cases, a man the woman loved but was considered unacceptable and a man who attacked a woman were usually treated to the same fate – justice at the hands of brothers, fathers, and angry mothers armed with sticks and stones.

    Also, a woman who stepped out was now tainted by bad genes.

    These things make evolutionary sense for social groups, no matter how much they may offend our sense of justice. It’s why Korean guys get incredibly pissed if a white guy dates a (high-value) Korean girl. It’s also why white guys hate seeing black guys with pretty white girls.

    Part of that same fugue, if different, is the anger of black women when they see black men with white women.

    Even our morality is to a great degree genetically programmed. We’re animals, and this is what leftists just can’t deal with in any philosophically comprehensive way.

    If you’re going to condemn rape and fight it, you need to understand it.

    One thing it’s not about is a Patriarchal Power Play to Disenfranchise and Terrify Females.

    Case 1: Males ally with their female relatives and mates. Not with other males they don’t know or aren’t related to.

    Case 2: Rape is always about sex, never about acquiring power. If there’s power, it’s about the power to be sexually serviced on your own terms. IE, I have the power, so I will rape; NOT I want power so I will rape. Soldiers rape because they can, not to give themselves power over already helpless women or their cultures. They’re horny bastards on the edge of death; fucking and eating are basically what they want.

    Case 3: Rape is programmed in human genes as one strategy for *reproduction*, not power acquisition. If anything, it may damage social standing – you only rape if you can get away with it clean or your social standing is shit already, and you’re not likely to get a chance to reproduce with an equivalent.

    Case 4: All this shit mucks around in the brain and gets re-wired. Like all things, fetishes, quirks, it can get mis-wired. You get guys who want to rape old women, fat women, children, etc., and women who want to do the same. Some women are high-T and are sexual predators. There are more than a few of these (teachers, anyone?). genes encode, but embryology/epigenetics/life expresses.

    Case 5: All of these reproductive strategies are designed to work for *women* as well as for men. The same genes that encode for one thing may, in the next generation, be in the opposite gender. So women pass on and experience the effects of these genes, as well. Any tendency to violence is going to be part and parcel of the FEMALE genome as much as the MALE genome. This can’t be stressed enough. Males and females are different forms of the SAME ORGANISM, requiring different but comparable reproductive strategies. Genes are just passing through an individual, from previous generations to the next one. You’re just a vehicle.

    Case 5: SOME GROUPS OF MALES WILL BE PRONE TO RAPE MORE THAN OTHERS. It’s pretty obvious that black males, as a rule, at least in America, are far more prone to experience violence and domineering sexuality – and rape – than other races in America. This is stupidly obvious. That it’s likely not just a social condition is a debate, but I suspect there’s a genetic predisposition.

    It’s not due to black skin or racism. Other peoples self-domesticated and ran Bad Boy Rapists out of town; they lived in tightly-knit neolithic communities of farmers who could control comings and goings. A tiny difference in the success of rapists would reduce the presence of these genes radically over a short amount of time.

    It may take 30 generations fo breed the asshole/badboy/gangrapist out of the population, but it can be done.

    Step one: Don’t reward the rapist with chances to reproduce. You may not be able to affect the ones currently alive, but you can end their ability to add to the next generation.

    Step two: Stop women from being respectable if they have the babies of bad boys. Shame them, humiliate them, run them through the streets; see to it that most women need to reject bad boys to have any status in life. This is what happened to a greater degree in, say, the steppes of Asia and Europe than in sub-Saharan Africa, clearly.

    You’d be surprised how fast this can change in a given gene pool.

    That said, anyone who denies the obvious link between higher tendency to rape and black men is in denial. And this goes for all of subisaharan Africa, really.

    So Case 5 was race and rape.

    There’s a reason rape is far, far, far less common in Asia. And it’s got nothing to do with culture. Poor Asian guys actually rape women less often, even given the freedom to do so.

    White women – white feminists – know this instinctively. They pretend to be Liberal Puritans and whatnot, but the facts of biology are going to intrude the more and more and more we do research into the genetic factors in human behavior.

    This is what we’re going to discover:

    Almost everything we think is “mystical” (spirits, visions, etc. on the religious side) or universal (essentialisms, etc. on the Blank-Slate left) are going to be ditched when we discover that given genetic factors govern intelligence, creativity, musical skills, mathematical abilities, every aspect of physical bodies, the tendency to work hard, honesty, fear, emotional bonding ability, loyalty, hard-working tendencies, cheating, sexuality (rape, etc.), ability to control anger, etc.–

    I suspect all of this will become obviously strongly genetically determined.

    When we can then predict how kids will come out based on genetic typing at birth, I also think that we’ll eventually get very good at this. We’ll make mistakes, but we’re going to absolutely bury these “Equalist” notions.

    This is neither a victory nor a defeat for social justice. This simply is.

    The left can adapt and, like religion, realize that science has their number, or they can whine and bitch.

    But when complex genetic markers indicating tendency to rape women start to show up (in men and women), WTF are feminists going to say?

    It’s going to happen. And there are going to be some extremely uncomfortable truths.

    (In fact, this has already started to happen, and is rolling on in earnest. Blank Slatists are now like the Pope, claiming the Earth is the center of the universe and the Sun revolves around the Earth. Whine whine whine whine whine Racists! Racists! Racists! whatever. Good luck with that. I’d start trying to find a new approach).

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  68. on March 12, 2011 at 7:17 pm Lara

    @Firepower
    “If Sick Willy were a true alpha, he would have had repeated vaginal intercourse with her on Roosevelt’s Desk.”

    Good point.

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  69. on March 12, 2011 at 7:19 pm Lara

    In fact I remember a feminist woman I know telling me that she thought it was wrong that Bill refused to have intercourse with Monica.

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  70. on March 12, 2011 at 7:31 pm Bhetti

    Let’s provide you with one published example, Gorbikins:
    ‘The nature of women’s rape fantasies: an analysis of prevalence, frequency and contents‘

    Note the sample is female undergraduates.

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  71. on March 12, 2011 at 7:38 pm Gorbachev

    @Bhetti
    Let’s provide you with one published example, Gorbikins:
    ‘The nature of women’s rape fantasies: an analysis of prevalence, frequency and contents‘

    Note the sample is female undergraduates.

    Thank you, my darling.

    62%. That’s a lot.

    More than I thought.

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  72. on March 12, 2011 at 7:56 pm Patr333x

    Bill made a conquest, Monica didn’t.

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  73. on March 12, 2011 at 8:28 pm Gramps

    Speaking of Slick Willie, the rot has gone much further than you think. Why is this man the keynote speaker at a medical meeting of PATHOLOGISTS!

    http://www.ascp.org/2011annualmeeting/news_keynote.html

    This is sickening.

    Listen up, BETAS! Stop being tools, OK?

    You live in a very, very sick society. All your good instincts and deeds are pitiful and earn you only scorn and get you exploited. From “serving your country” to being a “good husband” to being a good employee to “treating women like ladies.”

    Many of the biggest fools are now serving in foreign wars, thinking somehow their sacrifice and adherence to traditional values has some meaning. It doesn’t. It is all a lie.

    The newest piece of worthless advice, now that men are wising up, is to “man up!” By this they mean marry some worthless woman and support her and her boyfriend.

    A beta getting married is pitiful in our society. Just putting his sorry neck into the noose with a shit eating grin on his face. Nauseating.

    Our society is one big wealth transfer scheme from men to women, with the women giving less and less in return. If you learn one thing from this blog, don’t let them tool you anymore, alright?

    Well, I guess I don’t have to tell you I have a poor opinion of Mr. Clinton. But, he is a poster boy for our society’s decadence.

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  74. on March 12, 2011 at 10:04 pm walawala

    Great post. Here’s a great lesson for guys learning game.

    A woman who experiences alpha will pine away for a guy—ala Moni and Billy.

    But if a guy pines away for the love of his life…beta.

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  75. on March 12, 2011 at 10:10 pm Gil

    Who’s to say rape isn’t about power? If the standard rapist is a lesser Beta/Omega opportunist using violence to seize that which he cannot access voluntarily then it is about the temporary power that is for other men is permanent. It probably fair to say bank robbery is about power too as it isn’t particularly profitable nor is it likely you’re going to get away with it. Rather bank robbery has more to do with the temporary gratification of being in power and having others doing your bidding. Successful men get sex and money legally in society thus it would be the ne’er-do-well losers who are looking to revel in small ill-gotten gains for they would probably find jail time an adequate price for getting a taste of what it’s like to pay an Alpha.

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  76. on March 12, 2011 at 10:13 pm solvemygirlproblems

    Clinton = Ultra Alpha.

    Obama = Alpha

    Bush = Beta

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  77. on March 12, 2011 at 10:52 pm paultheking

    This is by far one of my favorite posts. Well done.

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  78. on March 13, 2011 at 12:06 am Anonymous

    “Who’s to say rape isn’t about power? If the standard rapist is a lesser Beta/Omega opportunist using violence to seize that which he cannot access voluntarily then it is about the temporary power that is for other men is permanent. It probably fair to say bank robbery is about power too as it isn’t particularly profitable nor is it likely you’re going to get away with it. Rather bank robbery has more to do with the temporary gratification of being in power and having others doing your bidding. Successful men get sex and money legally in society thus it would be the ne’er-do-well losers who are looking to revel in small ill-gotten gains for they would probably find jail time an adequate price for getting a taste of what it’s like to pay an Alpha.”

    There’s a few reasons:

    1) There are a multitude of avenues for males to express power and the least strongly associated of these (rape) tends to emerge only when men are deprived of sex (i.e., in jail).

    2) Most of these avenues for male power expression are essentially *public* – presumably because the male wants to advertise his status. Rape, on the other hand, is rarely a public event.

    3) Rape is overwhelmingly male on female (which for men is the only arrangement that’s going to result in reproduction).

    4) Only something like ~ 50% of women impregnated by rapists terminate their pregnancies. If rape were just a “yucky” male power grab that happened to involve sexual intercourse, wouldn’t this percentage be a lot higher?

    Think about it. If rape was purely about power, you’d see it happening in all sorts of other situations that have nothing to do with sexual reproduction. You’d probably have street fights where the winning male raped the loser. You’d have Wall Street conquest deals where the “winning” execs raped the ones that lost. Instead, the only situation where this “male rape => power” situation really appears is in jail – which is where the men, coincidentally, aren’t having sex (and other men are generally the only possible outlet for sexual tension). You don’t see winner males raping losers elsewhere in the animal kingdom, either. Bottom line: if you simply want to express “power” as a male, you can do this by accruing resources, manipulating other people, beating the shit out of them, murdering them, whatever. But males are hardly ever seen raping men (or other women) as a display of “power”. Rape is about sex because it’s sex, and because it’s almost always male on female. If it were a pure manifestation of power, it would be a broader tactic (male on male, male on object…)

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  79. on March 13, 2011 at 12:13 am Gorbachev

    “Rape is about power” has to be the lamest and most obviously false meme ever transmitted. It’s so obviously untrue, I’m not even sure how it advances any feminist cause. Painting men as dangerous sex addicts is surely better.

    Rape is about getting pussy. It’s obvious.

    The Mackinnons of the world are challenged on this even by other feminists these days. Maybe assaulting this particular stronghold is meaningless – there’s possibly no soldiers manning the towers anyway.

    A good bit of human sexuality is focused on domination and submission. In various permutations. Rape is possibly about this. Burt probably about getting your rocks off.

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  80. on March 13, 2011 at 1:14 am Anonymous

    Gorbachev said: “A good bit of human sexuality is focused on domination and submission. In various permutations. Rape is possibly about this. Burt probably about getting your rocks off.”

    Like I said, I got some REAL Alphas for them hypergamous women to get all ‘gina tingly over… Taliban (hope they brought their burqah).

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  81. on March 13, 2011 at 1:36 am Rum

    The Taliban will almost certainly win. We can quit and go home if the whole thing gets too nasty for us but they cannot. Indeed, the nastier it gets the more they shall feel like they are in their element. The asymmetries are rampant.

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  82. on March 13, 2011 at 3:12 am Rum

    Re: EarthQuakes in Japan, Fear and Loathing in Honshu…

    The Japanese people may be short little folk with lots of dammed up craziness regarding sexuality – look up anime porn, but never at work – but I doubt that even god himself thought they deserved the butthurting delivered by this recent salt-water enema administered to the N. Eastern Cities of the Island Empire.
    My main source of financial wisdom is out of touch today. She cannot aparrently walk to her phone to take any of my calls. Maybe her husband, the Mr. Bernanke, will try to sooth her chaffed pussy with another round of Q.E. 3/4 whatever stimulants..
    Gold coins plus loaded guns = you will most likely be killed anyway by a mob of brown-skinned savages.
    .

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  83. on March 13, 2011 at 5:23 am Linkage is Good for You: We’re Back! Edition

    […] of American Women“, “She Wants You to Help Her be Less Independent“, “File Under: Five Minutes of Alpha“, “Why is the FDA Moving to Ban You from Freely Accessing Your Genomic […]

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  84. on March 13, 2011 at 10:30 am Evil Alpha

    Who’s to say rape isn’t about power? If the standard rapist is a lesser Beta/Omega opportunist using violence to seize that which he cannot access voluntarily then it is about the temporary power that is for other men is permanent

    Gil,

    You wanna see the world’s most horrible rapist? Look here.

    She could have had sex with anyone in the world… free and easy, yet she chose her underage student.

    Really think about logical conclusion of your proposed theory. If rape is about power then it follows that all sex must be about power since you have essentially defined power as the acquisition of sex.

    Thus the only difference between one type of sex and another is the method used to attain it. Besides violence, money, seduction and beauty etc. are all methods to get sex, and thus rapists are actually men with less power (options) since they only have violence in their sex getting tool chest.

    Yet you would never hear a feminist say “rape is about powerlessness”… which is technically more accurate based on your power thesis.

    Why would this never happen? Because even girls and manginas would involuntarily feel the opposite sentiment as the one just communicated by you. Rather than the current lie that sex is patriarchal the new emotional conclusion would be that it is women, not men who possess more societal sexual power… and well feminists just can’t have that truth fucking up their self serving world view.

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  85. on March 13, 2011 at 12:18 pm sabril

    How much is it that Clinton ruined her, and how much is it that she is the kind of girl who loves the carousel?

    It’s not as though she’s going to admit in an interview that she has no interest in marriage or children, she just prefers to have quick flings with the highest status men she can find.

    I think it’s more that she just enjoys being a slut. From what I recall, the way she first came to Bill’s attention was by offering to show him her panties.

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  86. on March 13, 2011 at 2:34 pm sabril

    Another thing about the whole rape and power meme is that rapists’ choice of victims mirrors the choice of preferred sex partners by men in general.

    A girl who is 60 years old is far less likely to be raped than if rapes were distributed at random throughout the female population. A girl who is black is very unlikely to be raped by a man who is white.

    [Editor: Correct. The whole “rape is about power” meme is such transparent bullshit I’m surprised it’s still being pushed by the femcunt brigade, but then they’ve hardly been a group concerned with logic or arguing in good faith.
    Rape is about sexual gratification. Period. The boner doesn’t lie. It’s not like Donald Trump sports wood when he closes a business deal.]

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  87. on March 13, 2011 at 7:53 pm Mr. C

    Brutal, yet so fucking true.

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  88. on March 13, 2011 at 10:38 pm TomJW

    @Firepower
    “If Sick Willy were a true alpha, he would have had repeated vaginal intercourse with her on Roosevelt’s Desk.”

    Or cum in her mouth at least. No evidence then.

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  89. on March 13, 2011 at 11:04 pm duxbury

    “Women will fondly remember those alpha male intimate moments for years afterwards — in fact, they’ll remember right up until they are reclined on their deathbeds — and their ability to bond with lesser men will be severely compromised.”

    some people like the narcissistic supply in leaving a trail of broken hearts, but after the thoughts of past loves (and yea, they are there on facebook and have all floundered horrifically)… I’d prefer to keep my dick in my pants and run for the hills.

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  90. on March 13, 2011 at 11:21 pm Gil

    How isn’t rape about power? Yes, it’s about sexual power – losers who don’t have natural sexual power so they have to use violence to get what they want. An Omega male who rapes a women under gunpoint suddenly gets a taste of the sexual power that an Alpha males feels all the time.

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  91. on March 14, 2011 at 12:50 am blert

    sabril…

    She gave her sperm sample to her MOTHER.

    Her mother put it in a freezer.

    Clue?

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  92. on March 14, 2011 at 2:06 am rimmer

    While I wouldn’t be surprised at any of this, it is based on a “story” from the National Enquirer – not one of your better posts…

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  93. on March 14, 2011 at 9:18 am Evil Alpha

    @Sabril

    Another thing about the whole rape and power meme is that rapists’ choice of victims mirrors the choice of preferred sex partners by men in general.

    Be careful with that argument. Mirror is a really strong word. The single most raped group (FBI stats at least) is girls age 12-15 who live under the poverty line. To dispel the feminist rape meme, I prefer the editors framing of power not causing erections like sex. You should too.

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  94. on March 14, 2011 at 9:19 am Evil Alpha

    @Gil

    Then how isn’t rape about powerlessness?

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  95. on March 14, 2011 at 10:34 am what

    @Evil Alpha
    @Gil
    “Then how isn’t rape about powerlessness?”

    If Gil’s argument stands that rape is about seeking power then rape is also about powerlessness. The act of rape is the acting out of the individual’s need for power. Rape is thus power sexualized as a result of powerlessness.

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  96. on March 14, 2011 at 10:41 am Passingby

    Evil alpha: “The single most raped group (FBI stats at least) is girls age 12-15 who live under the poverty line.”

    I suspect not. How is that measured?

    Great original post, btw. It is a wonderful analaysis of what some women experience, and how they wreck themselves, but still blame the disinterested man they wanted to snare.

    And Gorbachev’s story about the middle-aged gal who cluelessly thinks men from her past are *still* interested in her is a poignant reminder that women either don’t understand or live in denial of their youth’s vanishing appeal. The same man who wanted to have sex with a gal in high school may find her repulsive on a decade or so later. The only similar dynamic women experience is when the high school quarterback turns out to be a low-status, unemployed dolt a decade after graduation.

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  97. on March 14, 2011 at 10:47 am DJ

    Sadly, I fear in the past I have contributed to the inflation of a few HB5 or 6 women and their egos – in those instances when I have a bad night go out, proceed to get pissed and go home with one. It happens. But I notice the ego on these HB5s and 6s becomes inflated and they even start giving me a little more attitude. Probably because I pretty much ignore them completely afterwards, partly the ego boost.

    F*ck me, I’ve even noticed the ego boost HB5-6’s get from any male attention they perceive as being above them.

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  98. on March 14, 2011 at 10:51 am DJ

    I should add, I think Monica is still using the I still love Bill excuse to:

    a) ignore/deflect the fact that she’s single and undesirable.

    b) deal with the cognitive dissonance that she once lucked out and actually bagged an uber-alpha, but now couldn’t land a street person in an alleyway begging for change without some work.

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  99. on March 14, 2011 at 11:43 am DJ

    @Ed. I still struggle with that concept. My baby mama does whatever she can to keep me out of the picture – probably because I’m not a doormat and I call her on her shyt, and I would get in the way of her relationship with her beta provider type boyfriend – who is so beta that he started up with her not 6 months after my child was born, and knowing full well that she’s a welfare case with children from two different fathers. It’s simply the way she is programmed – she knows she stands to gain more for raising her child by manipulating the beta boy then try and manipulate me, which she knows full well she cannot.

    It’s simply hard-wired into them I suppose. The mother is pleased as punch that I gave her such beautiful offspring, but has no need of me beyond that. I have to confess that in a warped way I take it as somewhat of a compliment.

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  100. on March 14, 2011 at 11:47 am itsme

    on the last episode of betafornication…

    during hank’s statutory rape trial, mia (the jailbait he banged) confesses that she specifically targeted him for seduction because she was pissed at his ex (who was shacking up with mia’s father) for trying to keep her on a shorter leash (e.g., telling her not to go out ‘looking like that’).

    but does anyone express shock and indignation and disapproval at her behavior? nope, everyone just gets more pissed off at hank.

    it’s a good thing this stuff only happens on tv and not in real life.

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  101. on March 14, 2011 at 12:20 pm Firepower

    Gorbachev

    @Firepower

    I love you, Firepower. You know I do it all for you.

    Thanks.
    I’d introduce you
    to my Chow-Chow
    but I’d fear for
    his safety

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  102. on March 14, 2011 at 1:56 pm askjoe

    maybe false accusations of rape are all about power.

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  103. on March 14, 2011 at 2:40 pm bictopia

    I never forget the people i was in love with, how could i?

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  104. on March 14, 2011 at 2:41 pm Gorbachev

    @bictopia
    I never forget the people i was in love with, how could i?

    Some men are cold, but the truth is that most men never do, either.

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  105. on March 14, 2011 at 3:08 pm bictopia

    Yes, it is mostly sth i dont tell them, i may be cold to, but i never forget, perhaps they now i never did.

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  106. on March 14, 2011 at 3:15 pm anonymous

    @Evil Alpha

    In the absence of age of consent laws, girls age 12-15 would be most men’s preferred sex partners.

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  107. on March 14, 2011 at 3:20 pm Evil Alpha

    If Gil’s argument stands that rape is about seeking power then rape is also about powerlessness. The act of rape is the acting out of the individual’s need for power. Rape is thus power sexualized as a result of powerlessness.

    @ What

    Which then means that feminist consciously choose the phrasing “Rape is about power” rather than “Rape is a result of beta male sexual powerlessness” for the emotional and rhetorical advantage that is gives their team.

    “Rape is about power” reverences male domination and patriarchy, whereas rape is about powerlessness references women having more access to sex, followed by guys like me, followed by betas.

    What Gil does not understand is that if one accepts the “power” thesis then the phrase Rape is about power” is not an accurate statement, but a political one. Do you comprehend that?

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  108. on March 14, 2011 at 3:24 pm Evil Alpha

    @Passingby

    Call the FBI… and the people who call them.

    @Anonymous

    I doubt that guys would rather bang 12-15 year old’s than other age group, but of course you can take a survey.

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  109. on March 14, 2011 at 4:18 pm what

    @Evil Alpha,

    Comprendo!

    I do agree “rape is a result of beta male sexual powerlessness”.

    How about:

    “Rape is the sexualized power seeking actions of beta male powerlessness.” I’m not so sure the powerlessness is a sexual powerlessness or a general sense of powerlessness. Why can’t we add alphas to the mix? You mean alphas don’t rape? I would guess when alphas rape is more other forms of powerlessness that drives the action rather than a sexual powerlessness.

    Thoughts?

    got to go… btw, i don’t think you’re evil! hehe!!

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  110. on March 14, 2011 at 9:57 pm Bounder

    I don’t even agree that “rape is a result of beta male sexual powerlessness”. Plenty of rapists and molesters have access to sexual outlets.

    That’s why I mentioned it as a sexual strategy ALL men possess.

    Why do I say that?

    The historical evidence is replete with examples of high status and otherwise sexually secure men nevertheless raping women when the social constraints are lifted.

    The male sexual imperative doesn’t really mind force applied to distribute seed.

    I’d be willing to be that most rapists are relatively sexually successful i.e. are LESS likely to be omegas and lower betas. We just have that image in our minds because that is the strongest FEMININE fear. To be impregnated with low status seed is devastating.

    It doesn’t mean that most rapes are, indeed, from such sources.

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  111. on March 15, 2011 at 11:27 am Evil Alpha

    Bounder,

    Two things.

    One. Your sentiments sound eerily feminist.

    1. “Plenty of rapists and molesters have access to sexual outlets.” = Rape is about domination, not sex. (sodomy and pedophilia do not distribute seed)

    2. “That’s why I mentioned it as a sexual strategy ALL men possess.” = All men are rapists.

    3. “I’d be willing to be that most rapists are relatively sexually successful i.e. are LESS likely to be omegas and lower betas” = Rape is male entitlement.

    Two. My comments referenced the necessary logical conclusions/political significance of Gil’s feminist power thesis. I was not going for a scientific look at the phenomenon of rape.

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  112. on March 15, 2011 at 12:13 pm Doug1

    Rape is overwhelmingly about sex the vast majority of the time. However violence or far more often the credible threat of violence against the girl in question is needed to succeed at getting sex through true rape as opposed to feminist bullshiite date “rape”. This need to credibly threaten violence against innocent women weeds out the vast majority of men.

    Except sometimes in the case of the chaos of the immediate aftermath of total military victory over a vilified and hated enemy group, when there isn’t VERY strong socialization and punishment against rape even of the women of the hated enemy, in the victorious military force. (See e.g. the vast amount of Soviet soldiers raping of Berlin and other Nazi supporting, until they lost, German women in the chaotic early aftermath of WWII.)

    What’s left are men who both like highly dominant sex, and can’t get it consensually from hot girls. Blacks rape white girls more than 100x more often than the reverse, according to victim crime surveys of the US dept. of Justice.

    So yeah there’s a grain of truth to the feminist claim that rape is about violence and power. But only a grain. It’s overwhelmingly about sex, but combined with a willingness to use outlawed violence and power to get it. Hence in normal circumstances, rape is committed by highly sexed but socially inept and also willing to use violence, betas and omegas.

    But feminists have for a couple of decades been working on getting any borderline sex the girls subsequently regrets or wants to cover up as being consensual on her part, declared as date rape, in a bid to vastly shift the balance of sexual power between alphas or borderline alphas and cute or hot girls.

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  113. on March 15, 2011 at 12:27 pm Doug1

    What–

    Rape is thus power sexualized as a result of powerlessness.

    The sex drive comes first and is the primary motive force almost always in rape. A willingness to use violence or vastly more often the credible threat of violence however is also necessary in true rape, hence true rape is a mixture of sexual lust first and foremost but also outlawed violent domination.

    Because of it’s outlaw nature and also because of socialization and empathy for women they don’t consider to be total “others”, alphas with lots of other alternatives don’t ordinarily commit rape.

    Well except maybe in situations like long military campaigns where they’re deprived of female companionship for that reason, and raping of the women of the defeated and vilified enemy is condoned or winked at by their own higher commands.

    See Soviet troops in the chaotic aftermath of total victory over the Nazis in Berlin and elsewhere; see European Medieval and early modern siege warfare, when a besieged well fortified and provisioned city refused to surrender under reasonable terms, and held out for an extended period of time, threatening the besieging forces, who had already stripped the surrounding countryside bare, with starvation. The accepted at the time code of warfare then was that if the beseiging forces did finally succeed in breaching the fortifications, vast rape and pillaging were justified and to be expected. This worked. It tended to encourage surrender. See the Mongols when cities refused to IMMEDIATELY surrender. This worked super good, in a time before post Christian ideology and CNN around the world.

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  114. on March 15, 2011 at 12:31 pm Doug1

    Rape and pillage is an extremely well known phrase for a reason.

    Neither are done primarily out of love of exercising violent power, but rather for the fruits that doing so can bring under some unpunished circumstances: free pussy and wealth.

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  115. on March 15, 2011 at 12:38 pm Gorbachev

    Rape was never about expressing power. Power enabled rape.

    Armies of belligerent males raped women because they could. It was the cheapest and most efficient way to have sex.

    Spell it out however you want, but it’s this:

    Male sexuality is, in fact, dangerous. Get it by exchange or force, but get it. Failure to do so is genetic death. Get more if you can.

    But rape as a part of Patriarchy? Hardly. That’s wishful thinking on the part of feminists. There’s not nearly that much thought involved. And patriarchal social structures religiously (hah) control access to sex by males. Random rape certainly isn’t tolerated by lead males or the victim’s male relatives – who have a genetic stake in her offspring.

    Life really is about biology.

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  116. on March 15, 2011 at 12:40 pm Jerry

    After the Allied victory in WW2 the US Army hanged soldiers who committed rape. This was politically strategic: German women immediately loved the occupation and turned against the Russkies who weren’t being punished.

    In ancient times, just about the time their own men were about to lose a battle for a city, I remember reading that the young women would bare their breasts so they wouldn’t be killed along with everyone else.

    I wonder if quite a few were not then killed by their own side (the dying acts of defeated soldiers) for doing this. Apparently the young women had to time it just right so they wouldn’t be killed out of revenge for being “traitors”.

    It would a bummer to see, as you were dying to protect your city, the women who were not necessarily giving you any sex in the best of times, offer it freely to the men who had just delivered you the fatal blow.

    Does anyone have any links to info about this?

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  117. on March 15, 2011 at 1:09 pm Firepower

    Monica Lewinsky

    He is a revisionist of history. He has lied.

    How tardy are Liberals to finally grasp this Awakening, after that criminal defiled this country into the sleazy, decline of today.

    THAT is the same realization MILLIONS of conservatives had AS HIS lies were happening.

    Liberals will destroy this country with their blindness.
    It is they, who must be destroyed.

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  118. on March 15, 2011 at 2:26 pm Bounder

    Evil A,

    I’m sitting here dumbfounded at your assertion that I am making a feminist argument.

    You are making a category error. I’m discussing rape as a sexual strategy and evolutionary force.

    Rape has lost all power as a male shaming word. When the definition has been expanded to include a 4 beer deep coed with next day regrets.

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  119. on March 15, 2011 at 3:09 pm Evil Alpha

    Bounder,

    Feminists hate porn, but so does the religious right. Two different categories but same opinion.

    I didn’t say you were a feminist. I said your sentiment was.

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  120. on March 15, 2011 at 3:28 pm Evil Alpha

    Doug 1.

    This is good stuff.

    “Rape is overwhelmingly about sex the vast majority of the time. However violence or far more often the credible threat of violence against the girl in question is needed to succeed at getting sex through true rape as opposed to feminist bullshiite date “rape”. This need to credibly threaten violence against innocent women weeds out the vast majority of men”

    But I can’t follow the logic here…

    What’s left are men who both like highly dominant sex, and can’t get it consensually from hot girls. Blacks rape white girls more than 100x more often than the reverse, according to victim crime surveys of the US dept. of Justice

    I don’t understand what significant information a cross rapist comparison adds. If you have an asian, black and white rapist isn’t the rapists individual victim pattern the only thing that matters? In other words if an American dude that fit your dominant sex profile lived in Thailand, wouldn’t you expect him to have raped mostly Asian chicks?

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  121. on March 15, 2011 at 4:50 pm Michael

    “and let’s face it, it doesn’t get much more alpha than President”

    come on, it’s the power that comes with the position not the man. What kind of alpha man would marry Hilary Rodham?

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  122. on March 15, 2011 at 4:53 pm what

    I believe human sense of powerlessness and other emotions can be projected onto/played out through any forms of interactions. In the case of rape, it is sexualized. you @Doug1 say:

    “hence true rape is a mixture of sexual lust first and foremost but also outlawed violent domination.”

    I agree, but whether sexual lust comes first and foremost before domination is questionable. They can coexist together so intimately that no one can know for certain. When one feels aroused ( a BIG hard on) I believe at the exact moment the individual may also be feeling a surge of power? Hey, I’m not a man so I AM only speculating. I believe the feelings of strength and lust can coexist together. Therefore, as we agreed, rape is a combination of lust and domination (of the severe kind). Perhaps the severity of rape is determined by the degree of deprivation of powerlessness thus a need for extreme domination?
    Hey..you guys finally got me to be serious!!! hehe!! I’m tired now!! lol!!

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  123. on March 15, 2011 at 5:09 pm ritmo rioplatense

    i always get a good laugh at the absurdity of trying to separate the issues of “sex drive” and “power” when it comes to the issue of rape. i mean, fellas, trying to determine whether rape is *primarily* a function of sex drive or power display, is like trying to determine whether heterosexual sex depends more on the presence of the man vs. that of the woman.
    it’s a stupid distinction — it’s a function of both, of course. sex + expressing power. if you try to decouple them, you start blathering about things that don’t mean anything.

    doug

    What’s left are men who both like highly dominant sex, and can’t get it consensually from hot girls.

    if you can get sex at all from hot girls, then you can get highly dominant sex from hot girls.

    in fact, given the recent spate of regret-rape-accusations from women of the “he wasn’t good enough” school of thought, it’s likely that the currently fucked-up political climate of daterape makes “highly dominant” a MORE essential ingredient of sex, not less.
    ironic, ain’t it

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  124. on March 15, 2011 at 7:02 pm Evil Alpha

    i always get a good laugh at the absurdity of trying to separate the issues of “sex drive” and “power” when it comes to the issue of rape. i mean, fellas, trying to determine whether rape is *primarily* a function of sex drive or power display, is like trying to determine whether heterosexual sex depends more on the presence of the man vs. that of the woman.
    it’s a stupid distinction — it’s a function of both, of course. sex + expressing power. if you try to decouple them, you start blathering about things that don’t mean anything.

    The fellas aren’t decoupling. Tea is *primarily* water.

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  125. on March 15, 2011 at 7:13 pm Evil Alpha

    I agree, but whether sexual lust comes first and foremost before domination is questionable

    Not really.

    When a dude jumps out of the bushes on a big titted jogger, shoots his load and then runs off we know it’s lust first.
    But when a woman is chained to a bed, beaten, spat upon and ass raped for hours upon hours we know its domination first.

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  126. on March 15, 2011 at 8:22 pm xsplat

    Evil A

    Yet you would never hear a feminist say “rape is about powerlessness”… which is technically more accurate based on your power thesis.

    Why would this never happen? Because even girls and manginas would involuntarily feel the opposite sentiment as the one just communicated by you. Rather than the current lie that sex is patriarchal the new emotional conclusion would be that it is women, not men who possess more societal sexual power… and well feminists just can’t have that truth fucking up their self serving world view.

    Then ya, you could say rape is about power, and you are right – women hold the balance of it, and rape forcibly removes that power from women.

    But it’s disingenuous language that deliberately distorts the issue. Rape is about sex. Sex happens to be a type of power. As someone pointed out, robbery and business deals don’t cause boners, and men rape the girls who do cause boners. Or as Gorb put it – rape is about genes doing their job. It a political maneuver to distort the issue towards power “imbalances”. But I suppose it feels that way to women – their power to choose progeny is being forcibly removed, so they feel that power is what it is “about”.

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  127. on March 15, 2011 at 9:37 pm what

    @ Evil Alpha,

    “When a dude jumps out of the bushes on a big titted jogger, shoots his load and then runs off we know it’s lust first.”

    ….big titted jogger…. ( head shaking slowly, big smile)

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  128. on March 16, 2011 at 5:47 am Jerry

    @Evil

    The feminist-friendly Ritmo just went on the attack over at Dating Market Value Test for Men post.

    This time she’s trying to insult me in Spanish while denying that a woman more than 20 points lower than a man on the IQ scale will ever reject him in anticipation of him rejecting her.

    Her main agenda for being here is clearly to say that women are never motivated in their behavior by a fear of rejection. That’s been the main thread in her comments.

    Meanwhile, I think feminists use the “power” word in regard to rape because they’re projecting their own knowledge that young women leverage sex for power.

    What I still can’t get is why older, unattractive American women, think they themselves are relevant to that conversation. Vicariously trying to make themselves feel powerful by implying that they are as likely to be raped as the younger women?

    In non-feminist countries, older women will not feel solidarity with younger women because they are competitors. It is not normal for women to unite politically, especially in a healthy culture.

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  129. on March 16, 2011 at 1:58 pm Evil Alpha

    Meanwhile, I think feminists use the “power” word in regard to rape because they’re projecting their own knowledge that young women leverage sex for power.

    What I still can’t get is why older, unattractive American women, think they themselves are relevant to that conversation. Vicariously trying to make themselves feel powerful by implying that they are as likely to be raped as the younger women?

    I think you hit the nail on the head with the first part. But I have concluded feminists reference their sexual power relative to males, not younger/hotter women. They see rape as the most egregious example of phenoma such as porn, aging, prostitution, and slut taboos that level the playing field and move collective power away from women towards men.

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  130. on March 16, 2011 at 6:25 pm Doug1

    ritmo

    @doug–What’s left are men who both like highly dominant sex, and can’t get it consensually from hot girls.

    if you can get sex at all from hot girls, then you can get highly dominant sex from hot girls.

    I agree. Which is why in normal circumstances alphas rarely rape.

    What I was pointing out that it’s only the subset of betas and omegas who are that but also have highly dominant sex desires who are the group who might rape, if they also have low empathy and socialization.

    Most “nice guy” betas either don’t have dominant sex fantasies or deeply repress them, I think, from what I can tell. They certainly don’t seem to admit them much.

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  131. on March 16, 2011 at 6:37 pm Doug1

    Evil Alpha–

    @Doug1–Blacks rape white girls more than 100x more often than the reverse, according to victim crime surveys of the US dept. of Justice

    I don’t understand what significant information a cross rapist comparison adds.

    The vast majority of white guys on this blog have repeatedly said they not attracted to black girls, or only to a tiny subset of them not seen very much in day to day life. We know that many, many black guys are attracted to white girls. If rape was only of almost only about expressing power rather than using power in forbidden and illegal ways to get sex from desirable females, then what explains this PHENOMENONALLY HUGE disparity, more than 10,000%?

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  132. on March 16, 2011 at 6:44 pm Doug1

    There are rare cases where a rape does seem to be mostly about power. E.g. I remember reading about a 20 something black male rapping a 60 yo white woman.

    But the fact is it’s the young and pretty and non fat, and often who are wearing somewhat provocative clothing, that are stranger raped most often, police departments know. Though feminists tend to shut them up from saying this stuff, as happened not long ago I read in Canada (in or near Toronto iirc) when an usually frank cop made these points in an effort to educate women about who was most at risk and what behaviors put them more at risk, and got roundly criticized by feminists in the college group he was speaking to.

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  133. on March 17, 2011 at 7:29 am Evil Alpha

    PHENOMENONALLY HUGE disparity, more than 10,000%

    Doug1,

    I see what you mean now, but the logic and the stats upon which your conclusion are based is bad.

    The US potential victim pool is as follows
    Asian 1 in 20
    Black 1 in 8
    White 1 in 3

    So a blind rapist is 5 times more likely to do a white victim as a black victim and 11 times more likely to do a white victim than an Asian one.

    AND

    http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=119992

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  134. on March 17, 2011 at 12:50 pm Doug1

    Evil Alpha-

    So a blind rapist is 5 times more likely to do a white victim as a black victim and 11 times more likely to do a white victim than an Asian one.

    That still doesn’t get anywhere REMOTELY near to explaining the more that 100x greater black male on white female per capita rate of rape, compare the the reverse.

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  135. on March 17, 2011 at 4:45 pm Evil Alpha

    Doug 1

    That still doesn’t get anywhere REMOTELY near to explaining the more that 100x greater black male on white female per capita rate of rape, compare the the reverse.

    Where are you getting 100x??? The only information I could find was this link…

    http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=119992

    And it doesn’t even list Asian women as a category.

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  136. on March 17, 2011 at 5:40 pm Doug1

    Evil Alpha–

    The Color of Crime.

    Black-on-white rape is 115 times more common than the reverse.

    http://www.vdare.com/buchanan/070820_crime.htm

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  137. on March 17, 2011 at 6:37 pm what

    You know what I learned about men form reading this blog? hehe!!
    That men are just like SOME women!! They can talk and talk and talk and talk about the same thing over and over and over again , but of course from many angles! lol!!haha!!hehe!!haha!!

    bye!!!

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  138. on March 17, 2011 at 6:47 pm Evil Alpha

    Doug1

    LMAO. That website looks kooky and it makes you seem kooky. The data is from only one year and it seems second hand. Have you actually looked at the FBI data over several years to confirm the 100x?

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  139. on March 20, 2011 at 11:26 am Brad Branson

    Haha, I remember back in the day, I used to have issues opening groups of guys and girls.

    I kind of felt bad for the guys, didn’t want to steal them away.

    Then I reframed it that, there is no need for more beta babies in the world, and by me stealing his girl, she will see what a cool guy is like, and is less likely to mate with a beta and have beta children…

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  140. on March 23, 2011 at 1:56 pm Obstinance Works

    Male sexuality is, in fact, dangerous. Get it by exchange or force, but get it. Failure to do so is genetic death. Get more if you can.
    Spelled it out nicely.

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    […] my mother’s eyes glow with love, and where I used to feel confusion I now get it. My mother has always had a thing for Bill Clinton while also railing against assholes and telling me I should never put up with any bullshit from any […]

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