The Inductivist has a number of posts about studies examining, indirectly, the widely-observed but heretofore unquantified phenomenon of chicks digging jerks. In this post, he reports that the average family size of jail inmates is higher than the general population:
Mean number of children
One lifetime arrest 3.00
Two 2.95
Five 2.86
Ten 3.38More serious criminals have just as many kids as minor ones, and as many as non-criminals. The correlation between number of offspring and number of arrests is .04–basically non-existent. Evidently, criminals are sufficiently alpha to have as many kids as anyone else, in spite of their low social status and time behind bars.
Girls find a way to sniff out ex-cons — or even current cons — and get impregnated by them. They just can’t get enough of their hellraising seed.
Here is a second post on the same study, broken down by race.
Family size does not decrease with more arrests for either race. The correlation between number of offspring and number of arrests is -.02 for whites and .02 for blacks; in other words, there is no relationship. According to the MIDUS Study of non-criminal men aged 45 or over, the mean number of children is 2.62. Criminals have just as many, if not more, kids. (I’ll look for prison inmate data–jail inmates have a lower average level of criminality.)
You would think that men spending many of their prime reproductive years behind bars would hinder their ability to pump out sprog, but that doesn’t seem to be the case. Male prisoners have loads of female groupies willing to have raw dog sex with them.
A commenter to that study writes:
I have no science to back this up, but I can tell you this from experience… inmates in jails and prisons have more kids than the system will ever know. Your numbers are skewed because of children not reported. I knew of one young man that was 22 years old that had 4 children and another 3 women pregnant with his babies. I would wager that the number is much higher for felons than the general population by a large margin. look at the number of women and children on state aid. Where do you think the fathers are… or have been?
Isn’t it funny how a woman will remain faithful to a lowlife behind fucking bars so that she can bear his, and only his, children, but will step out on a loyal provider beta hubby who plays by the rules? Knee-slappingly funny, I say.
Another commenter writes:
What if a single arrest is just enough to make you into an “alpha” in the eyes of a significant number of females but not enough to subject you to the racially-biased sterilization effects of jail?
One arrest seems to be the sweet spot for capitalizing on your instant alpha attractiveness to women without having to sacrifice too much personal freedom, or without experiencing de facto sterilization by decades away from pussy. This study validates the relevance of question #18 in the Dating Market Value Test for Men.
It should go without saying (unfortunately this blog gets its share of dense readers, so little goes unsaid or implied lest the short bus crowd starts screeching like constipated tards) that not every woman pops a clit boner for criminals. Perhaps not even a majority of women. But enough of them do that we can make accurate generalizations about the contours of sexual desire that all women possess.
In comparison to men, desirable women are far and away more likely to feel sexual and emotional attraction for opposite sex criminals, thugs, killers and assorted bad apples. If we map this desire on a bell curve, we would see at the far right tail the women who send letters to death row inmates and sometimes even fuck them and bear their children. In the middle would be the mass (and I do mean mass) of typical women who tingle for criminals but would not go out of their way to seduce one unless a consequence-free opportunity were present. At the left side of this jerk-loving bell curve would be the women who swear up and down that criminal men have no appeal to them. These latter women are usually lesbians or older, married broads who have lost touch with the intense libidos that motivated their younger selves.
If we superimpose a male bitch-loving bell curve onto a female jerk-loving bell curve what we would see is that the female curve is far to the right of the male curve, and the male curve would be bunched up into its left side. That is, there are significantly more women who love jerks than there are men who love bitches. This is as a Darwinian reading of human sociosexuality would predict. Male criminals have advertised their fitness as strong survival gene machines, while female bitches haven’t advertised much except what a pain in the ass they would be after sex.
If you have to wonder why chicks dig jerks and guys don’t similarly dig bitches, you need to recall the fundamental premise of the sexual market:
Men love youth and beauty. Women love charisma and power.
Beauty is not contingent upon a women’s bitchiness or criminal propensity. (In fact, female thuggishness is usually a leading indicator of ugliness.) In contrast, charisma and will-to-power are correlative with male criminal propensity.
In future posts, I will look at the appeal that death row inmates have for women. (Death row females — the few that there are — don’t have the same appeal for men. Shocking, I know.)

The reason that standard advice is so bad is that it’s about “relationships” and “appropriate social actions”, not libido.
What you discuss here with various degrees of enthusiasm is libido and the appeal men and women have to each other.
Lots of relationship therapists will go to absurd lengths to say that libido is irrelevant – that other components are what make a relationship stable and rewarding.
You’re talking about what makes a woman want to sleep with a man – not what makes her want to hang around him. Relationship therapists usually talk about what makes a woman want to hang around a man, and virtually never go after the root – the libido.
We all know what that advice is usually worth.
But when men see women – hot women, young women, desirable women – go after thugs, they often refuse to learn the lesson.
Just don’t be a nice guy.
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Whatever you do, do NOT marry a woman you’re not sexually lusting after.
It will be over before it ever starts.
LUST is **CRUCIAL**.
Yes, it enslaves a LOT of men to porn, but that is because it’s mis-directed.
Put it in the right direction and you’ll BOTH be happier.
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Notice how science is usually at least one decade behind what life-smart people already know. Well, I suppose it could be worse: it could never catch up 😉
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I guess this would also explain the correlation as to why single moms produce kids who become criminals.
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Interesting correlation, but I don’t think this is the whole story.
How about criminals have lots of children because they need to?
It’s the bunny rabbit strategy, have lots of kids, hope some of them survive.
Rich people have fewer kids because they are better protected.
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CHRIST – that’s been IT all along.
No wonder girls like me so much
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check out the book of pook [http://www.jbspencer.com/djb/Downloads/The%20Book%20of%20Pook.pdf]
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Guys in prison still get laid alot and I’m not talking about the ghey stuff.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/it_sex_cells_at_racy_rikers_YIRERnv604nc91QeTClQTO
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CT from the short bus here.
A chick will devote her life to a guy in prison because the guy in prison actually loves her.
Not a single reader of the Chateau will ever understand this kind of love because it is the real deal.
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That’s why I’ve always considered Michelle Rodriguez hideous, no matter if it’s a glamour shot or a mug shot:
http://photos.imageevent.com/afap/wallpapers/stars/michellerodriguez//Michelle Rodriguez -4.jpg
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another contribution to why prisoners tend to have large family sizes is simply their low IQ and high testosterone: having poor impulse control in conjunction with being stupid means having lots of having unprotected sex, and also have a lot of women sleep with you. i’d also likely venture that the women they sleep with are less likely to have an abortion for various reasons… i’m weaning this mainly from watching daytime T.V.
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or to present this scenario alternatively, people with high IQ and in a higher socioeconomic bracket have less children. this could include a lot of entrepreneurial alpha male types as well. dumb people breed more. it’s a natural law. though of course, it doesn’t nullify the fact that “clit boners” are generated for brutes many a time.
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The women that fuck and date criminals are low-class trashy women. In educated society being a criminal doesn’t attract anybody. Of course criminals have lots of kids – the trash they hook up with have lots of kids too.
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How about criminals have lots of children because they need to?
It’s the bunny rabbit strategy, have lots of kids, hope some of them survive.
the bunny rabbit strategy is necessary (and not just for criminals) in developing nations where infant mortality is high.
but in our modern welfare state, single mothers are supported by the government (i.e., us), so the offspring are pretty much guaranteed to survive. not only will they survive, but chances are they will grow up to be criminals themselves.
criminals have lots of kids not because they need to, but because they can. and they can because women choose to be their cum receptacles and carry their offspring to term. and women do this because….they dig jerks. which was the point of the post.
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to compound jack’s point with my own: trashy women are less likely to have abortions because they are generally misinformed, religious or too poor and dumb to know it’s in the best interest for the unborn child. it could also be a way of keeping the neanderthalic alpha male in their lives somehow.
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also poor companions or mothers. in addition to beauty, men really value kindness, warmth, empathy– a good heart– in women. they’re significant aspects of femininity related to child nurturing. that’s why bitchiness is sexually repellant (duh).
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I work for a company that makes equipment for prisons, and we took the new engineers on a tour of a facility yesterday. It was during lock-down so there were no visitors allowed, but the first visitor waiting in line (an hour before she would have been allowed to check in) was a slammin’ hottie who was clearly made-up for the visit.
Most of the high-paid engineers I was with are single or married to cows.
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It is too bad that we do not have stats on number of children by men with zero arrests.
Since men with substantial net worth typically have no criminal record, one could surmise the effect this has on the rich/poor gap.
Basically, if thugs are creating more poor people with nothing to lose, faster than the non-thugs are creating more “rich” people…..wouldn’t the gap in wealth naturally increase over time?
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I need some advice.
I remember that it was once said here under the “Relationship Advice” series posts something along the lines of: “…if you are sick and your girlfriend visits you and brings you hot soup – you are doing it right.”
Now, what’s an alpha way of managing an opposite situation where your GF is sick?
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I neither like jerks nor nice guys. It’s not one or the other. It’s WHEN. It’s timing. There’s a place/time to whom to be a jerk and there are place/times to whom to be nice. Knowing when and when not to do something ..how much to ……to whom to do it to…..to do or not to do….that’s what I like.
It’s not having a set of skills..game…traits, but knowing when , how , where, to whom to apply it to be effective, getting what you want…..that’s what I like and that attractive.
Being able to be flexible in thoughts, feelings, behavior depending on who you are engaged with is the ultimate!
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I used to know a cook who was also a small-time cocaine dealer. He sold soft and hard, associated with thugs, lived in the ghetto, etc. He had been in jail, and was arrested quite often. He was known for his wild antics in public – things like discharging illegal firearm into the air in front of bars and such. Real classy guy. Basically he was a mentally unstable thug with high testosterone and a very low IQ. Seriously the guy couldn’t comprehend or spell words with more than 5 or 6 letters.
This man had a line of gorgeous, feminine, submissive women just lining up to fuck him. Not hood rats – I’m talking 8s and 9s from upper middle-class suburbia. Beautiful, cultured, and educated women, all itching to get a piece of this idiot.
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Bitchiness is not sexually repellent to me. It’s relationshp-repellent to some extent, but there’s nothing like hatefucking a hot bitchy chick.
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Rox –
take her soup. if you’re on ground that unstable that you can’t care for a person genuinely in need then offering soup will be the last thing to fuck things up.
anyway, my dad, the most incorrigible of philanderers i’ve ever known, is always generous with everyone – including his women.
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Go ahead. Let the criminals have lots of kids.
They won’t prosper. They will wind up in prison as well.
The Bible nails it perfectly:
Book of Sirach – Chapter 16
1 Rejoice not in ungodly children, if they be multiplied: neither be delighted in them, if the fear of God be not with them.
2 Trust not to their life, and respect not their labours.
3 For better is one that feareth God, than a thousand ungodly children.
4 And it is better to die without children, than to leave ungodly children.
MESSAGE?
1) It is better to have no children than godless children.
2) Bastard children are screwed. They will not live long lives.
3) Message to prisoners? Knock yourselves out. It ain’t gonna work out in the end, unfortunately.
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Would love to see the topic of men (not) loving bitches expanded, esp. in regards to the popularity of the book “Why Men Love Bitches” by Sherry Argov.
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to compound that: generosity, without being a pushover of course, can actually be an alpha characteristic in the same way optimism is. the most alpha-ist of males i know are the ones who’ve helped me most in life.
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@Aaron
“generosity, without being a pushover of course, can actually be an alpha characteristic in the same way optimism is.”
nice, nice….I like. please say more….
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@Jack- OK, take your point on the hatefuck thing. But do a thought experiment- two identical-looking beautiful women, one sweet and feminine, the other bitchy and unpleasant. Who would get chosen more often…?
A book entitled “Why Men Love Bitches” would seem to be a delusional work of fiction by a femcunt.
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@Tunacrab
Liz Taylor just died. Her best quote? “Richard Burton was the love of my life. There was never a dull moment…”
Doesn’t that sum it all up?
It never ceases to astound me how guys just can’t understand that women LOVE to be provoked, mocked, busted upon, teased and knocked off their pedestal…
Yes, that’s right. Women HATE pedestals. Because pedestals are DEMANDING. Pedestals demand responsible action, maturity, and adult behavior.
And Kupcake AIN’T about all that.
Kupcake wants to have FUN. Kupcake is EXHAUSTED by pedestals, and wants NOTHING to do with them.
Thus, they go for the bad-boys, jerks, assholes, thugs, and felons.
It’s really not rocket science.
Women. They all friggin’ 15 years old.
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what –
“Damn it feels good to be a gangsta
Feedin’ the poor and helpin out with their bills.”
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@aaron- agreed. that’s sort of a behavioral variant of the handicap theory- that an organism that can carry around useless and costly sexual-display ornaments is showing superior fitness. of course, a less geeky way to say that is that being a mensch is solid alpha behavior.
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Shit, I’ve been arrested for drunk’n’disorderly and even locked up in the Grand Central Terminal jail. I guess I should play that up?
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@kn- mark it 8, dude!
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It should go without saying …that not every woman pops a clit boner for criminals. Perhaps not even a majority of women.
I would bet that the majority of females are attracted to men who have been arrested once. True criminals probably only appeal to a minority of women, but a man who spent a night in jail during his youth pushes the tingle buttons, even on upper-middle class chicks.
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Truth.
Back in the high school days, a significant portion of the school’s hotties would always be shackin up with the ghetto kids that were always dealing, getting in fights, getting suspended/expelled, etc…
I was a goody good back then, so needless to say I was puzzled as fuck.
I think if it wasn’t for social expectations, you would see even more of the hot chick- thug pairings than we already do.
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@ Tunacrab
I’ve seen that very same story unfold dozens of times. I predict a lot betas and bitches will come to this thread, talking about how only low-classes bitches, trailer trash ho, and ghetto hoodrats love thugs.
Bullshit.
Attractive, high socioeconomic status women will absolutely fuck thugs over betas if there is a reasonable guarantee that no one they care about will ever know about it . And these days, the chance of that remaining hidden is as good as ever.
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Lol @ the irony Corresponding Toads. Also lol @ the irony of “serial killer” being used to describe creeps and/or losers.
On a serious note certain criminals should go through forced sterilization; we have sever overpopulation and criminals will only spawn more criminals.
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*severe
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@danger
“Basically, if thugs are creating more poor people with nothing to lose, faster than the non-thugs are creating more “rich” people…..wouldn’t the gap in wealth naturally increase over time?”
Scary that. Then we have a society with two tracks.
The more-or-less dependent track, breeding at
will, paid by the taxpayer in myriad ways.
(Federal housing, welfare, foodstamps, AFDC,
“Earned Income Credit” i.e. more welfare,
Medicaid, yet another free food program [I can’t
remember the name], etc)
And the provider track, with at best replacement
level number of offspring. Many living simply, saving,
investing – only to increasingly be robbed of the
fruits of their labor – democracy works like that,
as the first track will necessarily, sooner or later,
outnumber the second track.
OR the first trackers will be more direct, and instead
of robbing their betters through government
intervention, they will simply rob their betters.
If many do so at the same time, the media will
call it an uprising/riot/whatever and find lots of
excuses.
We need to have no representation without
taxation.
Or, sooner or later, Atlas will Shrug, one way
or another.
Thor
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Rox –
If you are sleeping with this girl and care about her, by all means take care of her. Make her some soup. Just don’t be beta about it – as if you are expecting something in return. Don’t be a sniveling suckup, i.e. “Hi honey, I made some soup for you. Is there anything else I can get you?”
Bring her some soup. Give her orders, “Now you’re going to eat this soup and get some rest.” Speak hardly at all. Listen briefly to her share how badly she is suffering, then kindly tell her to shut up and eat. Then leave her alone.
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Seems to me that the jerk thing is learned once by the higher class women. However, the lower class ladies seem to always gravitate towards the bad apples; despite being burned before.
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men arent attracted to female criminals? Are you sure ’bout that? I mean some high-T tough manly square-jawed broadshouldered sweetie who likes to ‘throw down’ isnt appealing to guys? Who knew?
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Sorry…I shoulda added loaded with every kind of disease one contracts when one lives la vida loca. THATS sexy! Oh BTW Liz Taylor just croaked.
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Now how many Beta dorks are going to go out and intentionally get arrested hoping to get laid?
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@Gorb at 1:58pm
A distinction that can’t be made too often. Needs to be on the banner of the website.
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@Dragnet
Dead on, dude. Trailer-park trash aren’t the only ones pining after Alpha-incarcerated Dog.
It’s ESPECIALLY the bored upper-middle class Kupcakes who pine after the felons, murderers, and gang-bangers.
They’re absolutely sickened, nauseated and bored with their beta lap-dog providers.
“It is rare to find a woman who does not tire of being virtuous.”
– Leo Tolstoy
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While I totally buy the premise, the site you linked to as evidence is complete garbage. He slams the research article for not accounting for race, when Table 1 (their first table!) gives the correlation for race as a predictor. Linking to such junk science only serves to undermine your point not corroborate it. Even the tag line, “Data not Doctrine” smacks of Fox News’ winking “Fair & Balanced.”
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i think for ONS fucking the average woman does get tingles for a man who is a criminal but he must bring other traits to the table as well; looks, charisma or charm. i have known many ugly non charismatic, run of the mill criminals and they were not tapping high quality ass. however even these mediocre individuals were getting more ass in general than beta schlubs.
that said, all of my alpha friends have been in jail once or twice. dui’s, fighting, getting caught with hard drugs or robbed cars in their youth. these guys tap high quality poon on the regular and i am certain that part of the reason they do is that they still carry the *attitude* that comes with being or having been on the wrong side of the law at a point in their lives.
also, all those high powered alphas who work on wall street, silicon valley or DC have a lot of the same attributes that many inmates do. they seek power and cash flow any way they can and engage in criminal behavior on the daily; it’s just from a different angle but the impetus is the same.
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Check this book on Amazon.com
“The Virtuous Woman: Shattering the Superwoman Myth”
http://www.amazon.com/Virtuous-Woman-Shattering-Superwoman-Myth/dp/0805430547#_
Uh, yeah. We kinda knew that. Woman are AMORAL.
They will LIE, LIE, LIE at the drop of a hat. Without blinking an eye.
No remorse. Whatsoever. That’s. Kupcake.
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These reports continue to give support to the notion that the libido on-switches in the human female hind-brain are calibrated in a way that made perfect sense for the vast majority of mammalian history where a female needs virtually nothing more from a male to raise her pups beyond a good, ovulation inducing fuck. But are painfully out of alignment for those rare intervals in the history of our biology when females really did need, for a few years at least, access to the resources of a stable provider male. Human History, in other words. Up till now, at any rate.
Silly SoComs fell for the scam that women “evolved” to want stable resource provider malesmost of all because that allowed them to go on seeing some remaining trace of moral rectitude in Nature. They missed the fact that women choose this way only if the are convinced they have no alternative.
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Well, don’t GET arrested – just look like you might.
When I’m in my usual day-job rig – tailored suit, silk tie, leather briefcase, up-to-the-second smartphone, driving in my moderately upscale sedan – no attraction.
When I’m on my beat up piece of crap bike wearing scuffed up leathers – chick magnet.
Go figure. The funniest part is when I drop by the workplace on the bike “just for a minute” the professional women who usually don’t look twice beg for a ride. I’d like to replace the old bike with a new one but I’m afraid to; the old bike is like magic.
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“Woof
Now how many Beta dorks are going to go out and intentionally get arrested hoping to get laid?”
This question is not as frivolous as you may think.
Human beings work by incentive.
Think of how many beta track kids in the ghetto, nerdy/academic types even – who ditch this track to go on the antisocial/riminal track because they see that the guys who are getting all the sex are the antisocial criminal ones ????
this may partially explain low academic performance in the ghettos……
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Calling this science is kind of funny. You cite a study, the principle point of which is, “Number of arrests has no effect on number of children” and then say, “Science says getting arrested makes women want to have your babies!”
[Editor: You must be one of those dense ones. The point is not that imprisoned men are having more babies than law-abiding betas. The point is that inmates manage to squeeze out just as many if not more kids than law-abiding betas DESPITE BEING LOWLIFE SCUM often locked away from society behind bars.]
The fact is that the more arrests you experience, the more likely you are to be a member of the very bottom of the socioeconomic ladder. Poor people often fail at birth control and have lots of kids out of wedlock.
[Try again for context. Inmates are a minority demo of the low SES, poor impulse control contingent. Yet they are having MORE kids than similarly SES-adjusted men who are not in prison. This isn’t a condom fail issue; it’s a “prison clearly isn’t secure enough to keep horny women from getting impregnated by criminals” issue.]
Also, the idea that a woman will remain loyal to a man behind bars is doubleplus bullshit. It happens, yes. But for a lot of those guys with 12 kids by different mothers, those mothers have kids by 5 guys. You’ve got no evidence their baby mamas are particularly loyal.
[By loyalty, I’m referring to the notion that women will stay faithful long enough to bear the kids of inmates or thugs in and out of prison who aren’t even available to check up on her, while those same women will happily cheat on a beta provider in full view of his lame, reliable ass.]
All this goes to highlight is that, because some people don’t use birth control, sexual desirability and number of offspring aren’t particularly correlated.
[When a woman wants to fuck you and bear your child, that’s a pretty strong indicator of sexual desirability.]
If a study indicated, “Obese women have just as many (or more) kids than thin women,” would this convince you that obesity makes women appealing? I wouldn’t be surprised if this correlation exists, especially since there are a lot of corn-fed land-whales who have a passel o’ kids, and, of course, having a passel o’ kids makes it a lot easier to be a fatty.
[I’ve read that doctors have to break the arms of babies to get them out of the blubbery vagina cavities of obese women. Anyhow, your analogy is not much of one. It’s well-known that men are less discriminatory than women and will dump a fuck in just about anything if desperate enough. Women, by contrast, are more loath to give it up if the man doesn’t hit all her buttons. Apparently, inmates hit those buttons.]
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Next post will be titled: Raising your value by telling women you’ve been to prison.
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Made me think about the Ted Bundy case. This guy murdered and raped (in that order) around 35 women. Some crazy dingbat bore him a child while he was imprisoned. Can you imagine?
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girls just want have to fun
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*want to have
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memcpy++
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I wonder if my history of speeding works that same way?
..I’m going to see how driving “more aggressive” when she’s in the car messes with her hamster wheel..
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There may be a bit of myopia at the Chateau on the topic of men and bitches. I know of way too many dudes who are with bitchy broads to say that men almost always run from aggressive women. In fact, I would say there is a significant percentage of beta males, and most of the male population is beta, that have some sort of pathology that leads them to relationships with ball-breaking shrews.
A lot of these guys probably feel like they have no choice, but there’s often a fine line between tolerating something and having an affinity for it.
I will say that a difference definitely exists among the alpha males and queen bees of the world. A man with options will almost always choose sweet and submissive to bitchy and aggressive, while plenty of women with options push the nice guys aside and take up with thugs.
[Editor: Most of the betas who are with attractive bitches are tolerating the bitchiness to keep the hot pussy flowing. Most of the women who are with assholes are there because of, not in spite of, the assholery. Women, being the primary choosers in the dating market and thus able to pick and choose men for whom no tolerance of negative behaviors is necessary, are actively choosing assholes for that very behavior.
Anyhow, the point is moot. There’s a reason the stereotype of chicks digging jerks is so much more widely held than the complementary view that betas dig bitches. Simple observation of daily life validates the former a lot more often than the latter.]
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“Next post will be entitled: Raising your value by telling women you’ve been to prison.”
Perhaps a variation:
“Raising your value by telling women you’ve been to dangerous places and done dangerous things.”
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@ julian
So true. Think about your mangled ex-cons that are unclean and not blessed in the looks/social skills department and their usually paying to taste the pie.
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The women that fuck and date criminals are low-class trashy women
@Jack,
I’ve met many low class, trashy women that are good looking. What is your point?
[Editor: Exactly. Women and credentialist suckup betas project “high value woman” onto college-educated SWPLs, but the true marker of a woman’s value is her looks, and by that metric a lot of these “low class” chicks are eminently bangable. CEOs may marry high class broads, but they are fantasizing about banging that hot piece of ass that the unemployed thug is tapping on the regular. Remember, the marriage market and the sexual market, while overlapping, are two distinct entities.]
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“Next post will be entitled: Raising your value by telling women you’ve been to prison.”
This actually works ……particularly in the ‘hood. Or I should say especially in the ‘hood.
It works better than saying “I’ve been to college”.
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@Nom,
Assuming one isn’t arrested for littering can you explain to me why jail time doesn’t heavily overlap with being a “jerk”?
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@theprivateman
“Raising your value by telling women you’ve been to dangerous places and done dangerous things.”
Isn’t that what Julian Assange did? He had a pretentious online ad taking about things he “had seen or done”, and played up his international man of mystery thing to the hilt. The Wikileaks thing was just a set-up for him to knock-up as much strange as he could.
Definite Alpha, in a dark triad/B cluster way.
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I am still amazed at how local (Balkan) war criminals always have a harem and a dozen kids set up at the time of their arrest. And it’s not because the women didn’t know!
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the point I take from this is that criminals are too stupid to bother with birth control.
[Editor: So are most low class people. But criminals still manage to find a way to impregnate chicks even when the majority of their free time is spent in prison. It takes two to tango and all that. These supposed low class chicks still have to agree to spread for them.]
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snicker
http://jezebel.com/#!5784907/how-i-learned-to-get-pegged-and-like-it
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Awhile back some friends and I went out to our regular bar for just one drink. It was supposed to be a real early night; all of us were fucking spent from the night before. Turned out some college chick was having her 21st birthday party there, so we had a slight change of plans. (you’ve always gotta party with the ‘woo girls’)
Anyway, while we were talking up the ‘woo girls’ one of our friends (who had a girlfriend and is faithful to girls that he sees as girlfriends rather than fifi) stood back. One of the girls asked him why he was being so boring. He casually replied, “I drove here. Ever since I’ve been to jail I’ve gotta kinda control myself.” Instant and intense IOI’s ensued (IAIIOI). He wasn’t lying; he was in jail for 20 or 30 days after his second drunk driving offense. The rest of the night he couldn’t get that chick off of him. And she was pretty cute to boot.
Long story short, at the end of the night, after he made no attempt whatsoever to invite her home, get her number, etc., she asked if he was going to go back to her place with her.
The rest is pretty fuckin funny. This was the exchange after she basically asked him to fuck her.
Him: “I have a girlfriend.”
Her: [totally flustered] “Um, you could have told me that earlier… you’ve been hitting on me all night.”
(funny because she was definitely the one chasing him all night… ahhh, when the tables are turned)
Him: “Girls are cock-teases all the time. Why shouldn’t I be?” (I probably would have told her that I could still fuck her if I wanted to)
Her: “You’re an asshole!”
Him: [makes his exit]
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@Rum
“These reports continue to give support to the notion that the libido on-switches in the human female hind-brain are calibrated in a way that made perfect sense for the vast majority of mammalian history where a female needs virtually nothing more from a male to raise her pups beyond a good, ovulation inducing fuck. But are painfully out of alignment for those rare intervals in the history of our biology when females really did need, for a few years at least, access to the resources of a stable provider male. Human History, in other words. Up till now, at any rate.
Silly SoComs fell for the scam that women “evolved” to want stable resource provider malesmost of all because that allowed them to go on seeing some remaining trace of moral rectitude in Nature. They missed the fact that women choose this way only if the are convinced they have no alternative.”
Nononono!
The need for MPI (male parental investment)
goes back quite a bit, at least as far as neolithic
culture, maybe longer.
Women are OK with provider betas, as providers.
Consider a society is structured so that bearing a
brat carries HUGE penalties – or, more accurately,
does not provide a premium, you can bear a superalpha’s
brat but then you get to do all the support yourself.
This describes, more or less, Western culture
100 years ago or more (Victoria died in 1901).
And, indeed, most cultures (except some are or
were and are overtly punitive to single motherhood,
others simply did or do not support it).
With this clearly in place, incentives matter,
and women will normally gravitate to “provider
betas”. (They may later cheat on him, if they
think they can get away with it, but that’s another
story. )
ON THE OTHER HAND:
with heavily subsidized single-motherhood,
birth control, abortion etc. the most parasitic
instincts get free play. (This is not a criticism
of women in particular; freebies bring out the
worst in most people.)
In particular, there is a twist to the paleo-
mating. Cozying up to the King is a bit
difficult unless you are a very alpha female.
If not, a good plan B is to cozy up to a
plausible FUTURE leader. And tomorrow’s leaders
used to be today’s breakers’ of rules,
challengers of society, and – most especially –
its leadership.
That strategy of cozying to the challengers,
i.e. plausible future leaders, is now rarely
successful. VERY few badboys get to actual
leadership positions anymore, Castro and Che
were among the last. (Fucking mass murderers,
but that doesn’t matter as per the original essay).
Don’t bother to dig up other exceptions, at best
you will get a handful, compared to billions of men.
But the genetic code to go for the challenger is
still operating….
Thor
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I’ll read the whole post when not on my bb, but the question I have is, did the data take into account the number of men in jail for failing to pay child support?
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Personally I’m attracted to hot bitches because it’s enjoyable pushing the right buttons, melting their bitch shield and finding that soft femininity inside. It’s rewarding. It’s surprising how many bitchy women have a soft feminine center that you’d never expect to be there, but only a select few alphas can ever get to.
Long term relationship though? No.
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Whatever you do, do NOT marry a woman you’re not sexually lusting after.
It will be over before it ever starts.
LUST is **CRUCIAL**.
Yes, it enslaves a LOT of men to porn, but that is because it’s mis-directed.
Put it in the right direction and you’ll BOTH be happier.
Spoken like a never married, or at least childless man.
A lust-based relationship will be over when the lust dies (usually after kids come along), as it most assuredly will.
Lust may be crucial in a regular relationship but when you marry and have children the qualities you seek in a women are totally different. People need to think about this before making the decision to marry.
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In ancient Rome, aristocratic women would pay to get nailed by Gladiators and prisoners.
I’m no historian, but I would assume this was towards the end of the empire…
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I’m a retired federal law enforcement officer and visited many federal and state prisons. Many of the women in the visiting areas were very pretty and sexy. This was mostly in FL, so the women and their inmate boyfriends were all non-black latin (Cuban), and generally between 25 – 45 years old. The males were probably considered reasonably good-looking anyway, and macho demeanor but not overwhelmingly so. These guys were going to be locked up for 10+ years. I strongly suspect that the attractive girlfriends quickly got tired of schlepping to the prison on Saturdays and Sundays, whatever illicit money was squirreled away soon evaporated, and the chicks soon found other boyfriends on the outside. I’m sure none of them had an IQ > 100.
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[Editor: Most of the betas who are with attractive bitches are tolerating the bitchiness to keep the hot pussy flowing.
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A couple of things. Assange could not go wrong if
he tried. Once he had a massive international
reputation (good by some, bad by others, it does
not matter), women will cling to him. Fame is the
highest aphrodisiac, money is merely a proxy for it.
The paleolithic tribes had very little property,
status in the tribe was what mattered, in addition
to readily observable attributes like strength,
health etc.
Another issue. Many men want a displayable wife/gf,
this gives status in front of other men. And physical
beauty is only part of that, you want to show off
a cultivated woman/consort/wife/gf.
Somebody above said even upper middle class women
will jump at real badboys as long as they are unlikely
to be found out by other people they know. Well, I think
this is true, but something similar applies to men;
many men will want to fuck a body-by-Fischer-brains-
by-Mattel woman, but would NOT want to be seen
with her.
Thor
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They might be having a lot of kids…but what do these women look like? I bet the women who birth prison spawn are fat and black. It’s racist, but hey, I’m just keeping it real.
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memcpy (heh)
Next post will be titled: Raising your value by telling women you’ve been to prison.
well, crap, yes, it would raise your value.
Try to get these points:
– male attractiveness is about as much about being a good person as nice tits and ass or big soft lips. Danger = big tits. Does having small tits make a girl a bad person? No. Does it make me not want to fuck her as much? Yes.
– can we cut the whole amoral women stuff? Dunno, maybe some of you guys are these “good provider betas”, but I suspect you actually never been in a relationship long or serious enough or don’t have enough options to realize you’re not. I’m still nursing chronic oneitis for my ex, but I know, I won’t be faithful, I don’t want to. Shit. And yes, they would rather fuck attractive criminal than unattractive “highly paid engineer”. Just like you would rather fuck a bimbo instead of “confident” fattie with a great career, lolz. The problem though, and that’s part of the reason we need game, by default, they’re pursued more so you gotta keep on your toes (or better, keep on your toes to have options, but don’t care about any particular one).
– being a beta sucks ass. It’s not just women. It’s everything in life. Just today was at a car shop and I had to pretty much “game” the guy to get what I want. And yes I managed to by manning up, saying what I think he should do and shutting up, looking at him and holding my ground. There’s a line between that and losing conscience entirely, but it’s a lot further than nice guys think.
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@ sofia
Man!
Every now and then I read or hear a statement that is so mesmerizingly, paradoxically idiotic that I have to slam on the mental brakes and as the commenter to reboot and restate while I lie down.
So, Sofia, can you explain how, due to the fact that she’s single and he’s incarcerated, death via abortion is in the best interest of the unborn child?
Before you try putting your cerebral toothpaste back into that Swiss cheese cranial tube, know that our current president (whom I did not vote for, it should be noted) is the product of a single mom.
Funny how all the people who cavalierly toss abortion around as if it’s the sniffles have already been born.
Man.
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Thor
I am just starting to formulate this idea and the word choices are a work in progress. So, let me try again.
The core sexual instincts of human females are the same as all pre-human mammals. And pre human mammals basically never need provider males. They respond to signals about how male genes will make for heatlty offspring (winners of fights & dominant) and not one little bit for how a male will treat her in the future. I am saying that this is the bedrock wiring deep inside the gina activation circuits. Other, more long term, considerations will guide a modern womans actual choices but will not change what causes her hind-brain-pussy axis to come to life.
So, the less a modern woman perceives the practical need to be treated decently long term by the sperm source the more she will act on her pre-human mating preferences.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legalized_abortion_and_crime_effect
also, there are studies on single motherhood and the impact of the future of the child including IQ and socioeconomic status. jstor it.
abort, abort and abort. especially if it’s the child of a prisoner and there’s a single mom.
are you religious or something?
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Its not so much that men don’t like the idea that women are in prison, its just that the ones that do tend to be more butch.
Certainly it seem popular providing more acceptable circumstances like a tender innocent at the mercy of …well you of course.
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@last tango
“And yes, they would rather fuck attractive criminal than unattractive ‘highly paid engineer'”
Ah, but this gets to the point, being “what constitutes
‘attractive'”
@Rum
“Other, more long term, considerations will guide a modern woman’s actual choices but will not change what causes her hind-brain-pussy axis to come to life.
So, the less a modern woman perceives the practical need to be treated decently long term by the sperm source the more she will act on her pre-human mating preferences.”
We have had agriculture for at least 10 000 years.
And male parental investment might be older than that.
So this has had some serious time to get infused
into the DNA.
Nevertheless,
I think we are close to agreement here. It is a matter of
degree. The last sentence, “So, the less….” is perfectly
on point.
Another thing: It is not at all clear that it is the
reputation for having been in jail that is attractive.
It could be just as much that the derring-do attitude
that can – and statistically will – land somebody in jail
is itself attractive, without the woman’s knowledge
of any jail time. This could be a subject for
further study.
Thor
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Check out these comments…some people have no clue…
http://www.tipb.com/2011/03/21/wife-ipad-2-apple/#comments
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hahaha oh my GOD, is this a joke? your explanation rules.
[Editor: Read the editor comments above for the explanation you need.]
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@sofia
What does religion have to do with anything here?
If the studies you cite indicate with 100% certainty (hell even 75%) that the unborn of criminals are criminally determined from birth, then I can see (in a skewed way) how you’d be quick to push the abort button.
But human genetics don’t work that way, and you know it.
Also, we know that children of alcoholics are more likely to be susceptible to succumbing to alcohol in their later life. Since drunk drivers mow down an innocent every 39 minutes, it would (by your logic) be beneficial if we cranked up the abortion mill and lined up all women pregnant with the seed of an alcoholic. That’d be cool, right?
What I presented to you was the broad brush and dangerous fallacy of your logic. Your attempt to dismiss it as religious is puzzling.
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i asked if you were religious because you responded vitriolically, and if your objections were based in religion it would account for your fervour.
how do human genetics not work that way? that’s what genetics is all about.
we have a difference of opinion. let me phrase it this way: if i could control genetically for not allowing my child to have addictive traits, being low IQ, subject to criminal behaviour, or having poor impulse control then i would eliminate all of those behaviours. unfortunately, the only way we can do this is to either sterilize people with those traits, or abort if they get pregnant.
human life is indiscriminately valued, when it shouldn’t be. especially when it comes to scum like prison inmates tend to be. my solution is abort or sterilize.
we won’t agree (likely) because our disagreement is reduced to a difference in values. not because i’m an idiot.
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This post is pure whiskey bait.
Who still wants children (plural). Children are so passé and having many children is an indicator of being lower class.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics
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Thor
My understanding of the deep develpmental history of the central nervous system is that “older” more primitive structures and functions are not lost or even so much changed as the whole thing becomes more sophisicated. It is that additional control/modulation systems are developed to fine tune or add to more primitive yet still necessary older systems. For example, the neuro-architecture for the control of breathing is fairly simple and appears to be the same module as in the brain stem as installed in all Gods creatures. Being an opera singer obviously requires something more but that is achieved by the addition of capabilities on top of the still functional basic module. I mean, we all breath without thinking about it or even while asleep.
That is the analogy I am using. Primitive sexual selection wiring with added-on, largely culturally modulated fine tuning. Undo the culture and meet Ms. Opposum in heat.
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Must suck for the criminals that get away with their crimes.
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@ sofia
To condense your 2nd post, the child en utero is better off dead (aborted).
Why? Because she might, MIGHT become a criminal or economic blight to society once she matures?
Better off dead to whom? Would it make YOU feel better if we eliminated the chance of her future criminality via the abortion chair?
Or, maybe you’re right and that girl (en utero) really isn’t innocent. Well, we really don’t know, but according to studies….
So we should Minority Report her ass right then, in the first trimester. Just to be sure. But in order to do that…
The choice to abort, being the true hallmark of female independence (her right to dominion over her own body), would need to be wrested from the women who want to bring that possible future hellion to term, and subject all decent society to spiraling crime rates and flattened IQs. All because of the selfish, short sighted CHOICES of these Dumb People Who Breed More (your words).
Studies don’t think, Sofia – that ability rests within your unique human capacity. But, as with tons of women with values deeply rooted in the 60s, you want to wield the wand of choice but ignore and absolve yourself of the responsibility that comes with it.
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The only problem I have with eugenicists is that the pioneers of improvement are as a random as a piss drop from a parachute. Perhaps its even worse since our rulers tend towards the courtiers of Elagabalus.
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRMp7g7ljcjpobTUynsPhTR6JmVY5lSURs_D9nHHcEMSL_arhW8
Selective pressure is still world champ and has more often pummeled the ham face of our hubris.
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I just wanna say that Marybeth Tinning gives me a big woody.
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@Rum
> I will reverse-mark my comments, below / Thor
My understanding of the deep develpmental history of the central nervous system is that “older” more primitive structures and functions are not lost or even so much changed as the whole thing becomes more sophisicated. It is that additional control/modulation systems are developed to fine tune or add to more primitive yet still necessary older systems.
>Mostly true, so far
For example, the neuro-architecture for the control of breathing is fairly simple and appears to be the same module as in the brain stem as installed in all Gods creatures.
>Earth worms?
Being an opera singer obviously requires something more but that is achieved by the addition of capabilities on top of the still functional basic module. I mean, we all breath without thinking about it or even while asleep.
>I kinda knew that.
That is the analogy I am using. Primitive sexual selection wiring with added-on, largely culturally modulated fine tuning. Undo the culture and meet Ms. Opposum in heat.
>We are, again, mostly in agreement.
Thor
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Isn’t it funny how a woman will remain faithful to a lowlife behind fucking bars so that she can bear his, and only his, children, but will step out on a loyal provider beta hubby who plays by the rules? Knee-slappingly funny, I say.
Don’t y’all think that maybe a part of this equation (a significant part) is the fact that men with various degrees of criminal tendencies are way, WAY more aggressive with women than is the garden-variety beta provider would ever dream of being — and ultimately this is what the women are responding to — not necessarily them being a criminal in and of itself…
Also, I think there is a correlation here with race — and especially with class (I believe even Ricky Raw, “T”, back a year or so ago did a piece on how in the African-American community this was a challenging issue — that of inner-city girls shunning good, family-oriented men for those fellas with a prison record).
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betondo fuchatuch
Why? Because she might, MIGHT become a criminal or economic blight to society once she matures?
Better off dead to whom? Would it make YOU feel better if we eliminated the chance of her future criminality via the abortion chair?
it’s not about “might”, it’s about high probabilities. and it’s beneficial to society in terms of not having a strain on welfare, it’s beneficial to all the potential victims of those potential crimes… it’s beneficial to every taxpayer.
choice is overrated. dumb people do not deserve to have choices because they are not aware or informed. it’s why children can’t vote.
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This proves the brilliant Mike Judge movie “Idiocracy”. Watch it. It started out as a satire, now it’s a documentary.
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One thing that needs to be mentioned is that lots of arrests do not necessarily equal lots of prison time. With plea bargains and prison overcrowding, arrests for even felonies often result in little prison time. Recall the casino bus driver who crashed in NY just recently. He killed a guy. Crime was downgraded to manslaughter and he ended up doing 2 years, I think. Since then, other arrests but apparently no prison time. But the point is well taken. Women love douchebags. See: Scott Peterson.
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thor,
“And tomorrow’s leaders
used to be today’s breakers’ of rules,
challengers of society, and – most especially –
its leadership. ”
Now we’re finally getting somewhere.
To the extent that this is true – not as true as you think but truer than it should be – maybe the fems are on to something after all.
Time to sack up.
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kawkblawkd
Some HTML script algorithm is jealous of the wisdom I’m laying down and keeping it for its own private purposes. Twisted freak.
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Years ago I had business which took me downtown, next to the county lockup, a rather imposing multistory structure. There were always large numbers of nubile (and not so nubile) females waiting for their men to get out of jail. Many of these females were pushing strollers.
Now,granted, a lot of guys were getting locked up for petty stuff, like DUI or smoking a joint. But still, it got me to wonder about females–even in those days before MGTOW was a movement.
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All that study proves is that crims are too dumb to use contraception and hence stupid people breed more!
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“..I’m going to see how driving “more aggressive” when she’s in the car messes with her hamster wheel..”
Driving aggressive works. Do it once, early on and for a good reason, and you’ll get a nice little boost in her impression of you.
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When masculinity is outlawed only outlaws will be masculine.
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One thing that comes to mind is that people in the can are unsuccessful, incautious, unlucky, criminals.
It’s not the criminality that is demonstrated, it’s the REPUTATION, of criminality.
“…and what is reputation? Is gossip. Is people talking …”
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Also… arrest doesn’t exactly mean ‘prison’ either. Arrested usually = proclivity for big fun.
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I was discussing this issue with my wife the other day in reference to this blog, and explained the concept of “gina tingles” as the female equivalent of “thinking with your dick.”
I noted that it was only the negative reinforcement of social disapproval and cultural tradition that kept large numbers of women from making idiotic choices, and that such restraints are no longer applicable for reasons TFH has discussed quite at length.
She said that was crazy, that she never went for “bad boy” types, that she never knew anyone who did, and that her mother would have killed her if she did.
Bingo! Game, set, and match to me.
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it would be foolish to argue that your basic premise here is false; obviously, thugs, what r&b singers call “soldiers” have a certain amount of primal appeal to a large swathe of women.
on the other hand, the extra number of children is not good data on which to base this claim.
most obviously, the study is not (i don’t think) controlled by social economic class, so what you are probably seeing is mostly just a class effect: the lower classes have more children, across the board. non coincidentally, those are the classes that produce more criminals, too.
I.E. i bet that if you compared these numbers to the numbers for men of similar race and class who have not been arrested, there would be little difference.
also, there’s the willingness to impregnate chicks and walk away, which is closely tied to an antisocial/criminal mentality in other ways.
case in point — really rich guys could easily go around and impregnate lots of women, who would do it just for the money after a while. after 4-5 kids their total outlay wouldn’t increase any more, it would just be spread more thinly. so they could easily afford tens of children. *However* earning lots of money usually goes with other personality traits that work against knocking women up and then leaving them behind, hence the lack of rich guys with fifty babies running around.
incidentally, “púa” means “hustler” in buenos aires, so that’s a cute coincidence.
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My guess is this has more to do with disregard for contraceptives and education level than breaking the law. Number of children has a negative correlation with level of education.
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It’s gotta be more than just criminal record. I’ve been to the klink twice, even had two FBI agents show up at my house looking for me once and I get zero play lol. I’m fat though. So that might have something to do with it. I’m also a male nurse, how beta is that!! Oh well fuck it.
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This is why we need state enforced eugenics.
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Could it then be argued that women are the reason our culture is so violent and crime infested in the first place? Imagine a parallel universe where women would have nothing to do with men with criminal histories, a culture where women were repulsed by the criminal element. If criminals would never be able to attract women my guess is that the crime rate would fall drastically..to the point where we would live in a near crime free utopia.
Another point to ponder. Could the reason our justice system is so soft on crime be because women want it this way? Women must like the current system of revolving door prisons where even the most dangerous criminals are released early and often. They want these men in circulation out on the streets, not locked up behind bars for too long.
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“This is why we need state enforced eugenics.”
Love is eugenic. Women want men who get laid a lot because these men are more likely to produce sons who will get laid a lot- thereby continuing their genes.
If they have children by a nerdy loser who can’t get laid, their babies may grow up to be nerdy losers who can’t get laid. Makes evolutionary sense.
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Democrat Senator in California introduces a bill to stop Paternity Fraud (forcing men to pay for kids that are not their own):
http://www.fathersandfamilies.org/?p=13182
I wonder where the Republican “male” politicians are on such subjects.
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SEX is eugenic.
Love is just imaginary.
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All that study proves is that crims are too dumb to use contraception and hence stupid people breed more!
there’s a difference between getting knocked up and carrying a child to term.
men are merely sperm donors; what happens after it’s been deposited is ENTIRELY the woman’s choice. men have no say.
the question to ask is ‘why are so many women willing to shoot out thug spawn?’
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@Jack said:
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A lust-based relationship will be over when the lust dies (usually after kids come along), as it most assuredly will.
Lust may be crucial in a regular relationship but when you marry and have children the qualities you seek in a women are totally different. People need to think about this before making the decision to marry.
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Spoken like a true beta. Clearly you have never spoken to a divorce attorney (although, based on your post you might very well see one soon).
EVERY divorce attorney out there will tell you the **one single sign** that spells doom for ANY married couple is this:
They stop having sex.
So continue your non-lusty “responsible” marriage. Just don’t be surprised if your Kupcake is banging a biker in a dumpster outside a dive bar while you’re balancing the checkbook.
Chump….
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I have an auto salvage business. we hire almost exclusively ex-cons. One ex-employee was under 30 with 10 kids from 4 different girls. Another was in his 50s with 10 kids. Every one of my employees/ex-employees has at least 3 kids. Most have nothing to do with the kids and most are from several different girls.
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@Jack
By the way, I’ve been happily married for 10 years and have three boys….
Sorry, gotta go now… back to my “irresponsible” marriage….
Suckaaaaaaaaaa…..lolz
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I was nodding throughout the entire article.
I’m based in Liverpool, England which is full of white anglo-saxon versions of Josh Camacho.
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Arrest doesn’t necessarily mean incarceration or even lengthy incarceration.
Thus, men with lots of arrests aren’t really locked away from pussy.
By the time a criminal works his way up to more serious crimes & lengthier imprisonment, he’s had plenty of time to knock up plenty of ghetto hoes / trailer bitches.
Those women aren’t any more faithful than the general population and are less likely to be hot.
Have you seen some of those UGLY-ASSED people in the ‘hood & trailer park? But I suppose they will win out in the end by sheer number of bastards spawned.
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While we are on couples and attraction:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/24/us/24divorce.html?hp
Women drive the divorce rates. Women get options. They get out.
If they don’t need a man economically, and he ain’t her alpha, she’s outta here. The courts will of course help her impoverish him if she so chooses.
Just sorta underscores the reluctance of many men to marry. Man up? r u serious?
About those ex-cons with multiple kids? Well, what better way at robbing everybody than having multiple children and having the state raise your kids for you. Just an extension of their criminal behavior.
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Is this post really that fucking hard to understand?
It is just yet another example of women mouthing a reality that is different than the way they actually act toward assholes!
Women are birthing children by men they say are “undesirables” at approximately the same rate as the men whom women say are “desirable”. In other words being an “asshole” is at least as “sexy” to women as a job and a college degree. Now can we please all stop the feminist excuses about socioeconomics and contraception to explain away the obvious truth about female behavior?
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Have you seen some of those UGLY-ASSED people in the ‘hood & trailer park? But I suppose they will win out in the end by sheer number of bastards spawned.
Actually all that hood and trailer produce most of the stripper pussy… or do you actually really believe her when she tells you that she’s just there “working” her way through law school?
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A lot of this still has to do with the nature of the men and their actions rather than simply what women like. Betas don’t go up to hot women while someone who does not think about the consequences of crime does.
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OT random question that popped into my brain –
Why are feminists so opposed to younger women/older men pairings? They seem very supportive of the inverse.
Are most feminists aged out of the SMP?
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Evil Alpha gets it.
A woman MUST be gamed constantly if you are to have any hope of keeping her around.
Otherwise, her hypergamy (desire for many partners, for the newbies) WILL run wild.
Yes, you can pay the bills.
Yes, you can balance the checkbook.
Yes, you can slave at your shitty job for 60 hours a week.
Yes, you can check off every item on your “honey-do” list.
Yes, you can sacrifice and save “for the future.”
Yes, you can give backrubs, foot rubs, wash the dishes, cook the meals, vacuum the house, and dust.
Yes, you can do all that.
But no, you cannot expect ANY of that to register in the emotional vat of estrogenic hindbrain that constitutes the mental functioning of your wife. In fact, that hindbrain will sub-consciously DESPISE you for such behavior.
AND the hindbrain will take its revenge on you one day, by walking up to you, with its estrogen boiling over, while you’re just sitting in your armchair reading the newspaper, (naively thinking “all is well” in your household), and the Kupcake Hindbrain will speak:
“I want a divorce.”
In an instant, your life flashes before your eyes. Now all your life-savings will be used to finance Kupcake and Alpha Thug’s drug habit, new cars, and expensive vacations to exotic locales.
You, meanwhile, will be living in a single-wide trailer in the woods, working three jobs, trying to make child support and alimony payments, with the sheriff breathing down your neck if you’re short a nickel.
Meanwhile, your Kupcake is happily banging away with Alpha Felon, in the fancy home you slaved away and paid for.
Oh yeah.
And Alpha felon is probably beating your kids, too.
Now if this nightmare seems exaggerated, maybe I suggest you interview, oh let’s say, about 80 million men out there who have been, are still are, in such a Hell?
And it didn’t have to happen.
Game was there all along.
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chi-town said…
A lot of this still has to do with the nature of the men and their actions rather than simply what women like. Betas don’t go up to hot women while someone who does not think about the consequences of crime does.
Yup – this is exactly what I long-suspected as well.
Thank you Chi for putting it so cogently.
*Beta boys – lesson to be learned – get more aggressive with da wymmynz (intelligently, of course ;).
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Betas don’t go up to hot women while someone who does not think about the consequences of crime does.
Meant to add as well that most betas think it is a crime in and of itself for them to even approach most any woman — especially ‘hot’ ones — since they likely ASSume they’re ‘bothering’ such ‘princesses’ from there precious Facebook time spent on their iPhones or Crackberrys.
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Why are feminists so opposed to younger women/older men pairings?
In a word: Jealousy.
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I hear the Iphone has an app to cure addiction to Iphones…
(Haha…I crack myself up….)
What losers. Hello. Wake up. Come back to reality.
Nah. Soooooooo many people are hopelessly hooked on their Crackberries. Leave ’em.
They’re screwed. Brain cancer for the lot of them.
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@Insight
That was a rhetorical question, right?
You just mentioned the fundamental drive of feminism. 😉
@Chi Town + Reality Check
Both of you just said what the Chateau missed in his post (or he did say it in a different way – I’m not reading it again because I don’t have time).
It’s almost the definition of Beta to believe that aggressively approaching women and asking them to come home with you with the stated purpose that they will be taking their clothes off, is somehow wrong, as in almost illegal. I can’t count the number of times in the past when I had a beautiful woman at home on my bed and I was scared to make the final move that would have gotten me anywhere because I was scared of “offending them” (even with them sitting on my bed).
Betas subconsciously equate rejection of “offending a woman” with being under arrest by the police and they’re afraid of that.
Criminals are less afraid of “offending” people. QED, they can win with women more, even if they end up spending very little time not behind bars.
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Or I guess once you have a prison record is getting a woman pregnant high on your list of things you give a shit about.
Once you life fucked might as well raw dog everything why not
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Why are feminists so opposed to younger women/older men pairings?
the answer is the obvious one: because the older men would rather be with the younger hotter women than them.
i know several of these hags, and they all agree that the age of consent here (in ny, which is 17) is way too low and should be raised to 20 something.
the funny thing of course is that every one of them had no problems dating men at least twice their age back when they were young. but now that they’re older and nobody wants them, they’re suddenly opposed to the younger girl/older man dynamic.
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Completely worthless study; worthless post.
The study needs to adjust for the covariates of race. and age. Minorities are over-represented in jail, staggeringly so for the 3+ arrests category. Young men are over-represented in jail.
Besides, knocking up a girl who already has 3 or 4 kids, whose daddies are in jail, isn’t alpha.
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By the way, Charlie Sheen’s ex-wife Brooke has just moved back in with him AND his two female roommates…with the children.
That’s alpha.
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alpha shit: http://www.youtube.com/v/_-FvPR0pfuQ
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A lot of this still has to do with the nature of the men and their actions rather than simply what women like. Betas don’t go up to hot women while someone who does not think about the consequences of crime does.
Shit… even chi-town is infected with feminism. Two things:
1. If girls were really into nice guys, nice guys wouldn’t need to do most of the approaching.
2. Most of the essholes who approached girls would be sent away.
[Editor: Precisely. These doubters who think assholes get girls because they’re more assertive need to realize that the girls aren’t passive actors. They still have to be willing to spread for a man they deem attractive.]
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Or if you are taking risks in getting put in jail anyway child support not gonna be all that scary
worrying bout future time orientation on kids gonna hover around 0
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About thugs and “trashy women.”
Back when the thuggish Black panthers were all the rage in CA, and getting locked up, various liberal groups sent lawyers, mostly young white (Jewish) females, to help them. In those innocent days, black, murderous thugs were prime examples of oppression of the underclass by the white establishment. I have read accounts, by people who should know, that virtually every female lawyer wound up sleeping with her black thug client. It is worth nothing that at least one of them wound up a victim of murder by her client. Overtime, the enthusiasm of young white female lawyers to defend such men has declined. I am not sure what that means, but, it is likely the loss of group validation and shaming, two important ways to control female behavior.
Good men are whipped-sawed between treating women “properly” and treating women they way they really want to be treated. Good men treat their woman the same way they would want their mothers and sisters treated. A grave strategic mistake.
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@Evil
Chi-Town was describing the beta’s perspective that approaching a woman is a “crime,” not his own view.
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This issue has always been huge for feminists. They were arguing in the early 90s that men should not bother women by approaching them, and that a woman had absolutely no obligation to recognize the existence of a male speaking to her for whatever reason.
The trend started to grow after the fems and “Christians” got together in 1986 to say that all men were carriers of AIDs (this was after the women who’d spearheaded the sexual revolution passed 40 and saw themselves being ignored for more sexually attractive younger women).
In fact, just thinking about this early 90s trend makes me shudder as it dredges up bad memories.
There really was a movement back then to drill it into the minds of western males that speaking to female strangers was like an assault.
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@Gramps,
Good men treat their woman the same way they would want their mothers and sisters treated. A grave strategic mistake.
Bang-on.
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Correction: Alpha males spearheaded the sexual revolution. They just let feminists “own it” because it was crucial that enough women went along with it.
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Way off topic but it turns out the reason why that terrorist picked the flight to Detroit to blow up was because it was the cheapest flight (nobody wants to fly there anymore).
Also, a tribute to Elizabeth Taylor: her second and third husbands were 20 and 26 years older than she was respectively. The one who was 26 years older, Mr. Todd, was not cheated on and he died in a plane crash after which she said she wanted to take her own life (she was supposed to be on that private flight but she had a bad cold and he told her to stay home).
His replacement was Eddie Fischer, his friend, who made the mistake of letting her take a million dollars for the role of Cleopatra and moving with her to a villa in Italy where she ended up entertaining Richard Burton in front of her husband while the husband fumed and played his own records loudly.
Something tells me Eddie Fischer needed to follow his own career and keep his wife close to home like his friend had.
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Jerry said…
@Evil
Chi-Town was describing the beta’s perspective that approaching a woman is a “crime,” not his own view.
That is the gist of what I got from Chi as well.
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@Chi Town + Reality Check
Both of you just said what the Chateau missed in his post (or he did say it in a different way – I’m not reading it again because I don’t have time).
It’s almost the definition of Beta to believe that aggressively approaching women and asking them to come home with you with the stated purpose that they will be taking their clothes off, is somehow wrong, as in almost illegal. I can’t count the number of times in the past when I had a beautiful woman at home on my bed and I was scared to make the final move that would have gotten me anywhere because I was scared of “offending them” (even with them sitting on my bed).
Betas subconsciously equate rejection of “offending a woman” with being under arrest by the police and they’re afraid of that.
Criminals are less afraid of “offending” people. QED, they can win with women more, even if they end up spending very little time not behind bars.
Thanks Jerry – sentiments well clarified.
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Most Western men are betas and are afraid of their own shadows.
It’s pitiful.
The “hard-put” of feminist, man-hating, socialist Femerica has successfully frightened millions of Beta saps.
They scurry across Femerica, checking off their “honey-do” lists.
Meanwhile, their wives have snapped the purse shut and put Beta cajones on ice.
Beyond pitiful.
And Betas deserve their lot in life PERFECTLY.
The moron who stated that sex and lust ends after getting married and having kids is PURE BETA.
Epic fail. If your wife doesn’t put out exactlyWHEN YOU SAY SO, you’re pure beta.
You have not gamed her correctly. You are an epic fail. Your balls have shriveled up. You are now a mangina.
Epic. Fail.
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Actually all that hood and trailer produce most of the stripper pussy… or do you actually really believe her when she tells you that she’s just there “working” her way through law school?
Shut the fuck up cocksucker.
Learn some logic.
Just because the lower classes choose to engage in stripping more often doesn’t mean they are hotter on average.
The AVERAGE 18 year old co-ed is way hotter than the average 18 year old ‘hood & trailer hoe.
The AVERAGE woman who has 5 kids with 5 different jailed fathers is an ugly-assed, labia-dragging she/he-beast. If you like that pool of pussy, cool.
But my dick will take a random barrel of co-eds any day.
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http://www.salon.com/entertainment/movies/feature/2011/03/23/camille_paglia_on_elizabeth_taylor
Lesbian woman notes how women who enjoy being women are tender, feminine, and maternal toward s men (using Liz Taylor as an example). Also, how women today don’t ask for men, but men who act like women.
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The crackheads usually “pile in” toward the end of the thread.
The excessive profanity gives them away.
They’ll be gone soon enough.
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women cream for guys who do risky shit. any guy who’s ever had run-ins with police and mentioned their adventures in passing to women knows this.
one time this girl was yapping on and on about some topic and somehow the words ‘police brutality’ came up.
me: sometimes it’s necessary
her: what? how could you say something like that, everyone has rights blah blah blah
me: i say something like that because when i got my ass kicked by the cops, i pretty much deserved it
her: you were the victim of police brutality? no way…
me: yes way
so i told her about the time about 20 years ago when me and a couple of buddies were doing about 130 on a highway late at night on our bikes which drew the attention of the police. they tried to chase us but couldn’t keep up. we couldn’t, however, outrun their roadblock. our asses were subsequently kicked by them.
her: i can’t believe you fought with the police!
well, not ‘fought’, exactly…
me: it’s true
long story short, that was the quickest eta to public under-table fingerbanging ever.
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If you’re middle-class or wealthy, you’re responsible. (It’s a cause, not an effect.) So if you have kids, you want to raise them right, which means a big expense, lots of time and effort, etc. You have one or two — maybe three if you’re Catholic — and that’s it.
But if you’re a semiliterate crack-addled thug, there’s no reason not to have as many kids as you can. You’re living off the babymamas when you’re not inside anyway, and the government will give them money from the magic pot of gold for each kid you’ve sired. Win-win all around!
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Ghetto/white trash chicks take up with criminals for many of the same reasons that poor people do a lot of questionable things: eat crappy food, play the lottery, abuse drugs and alcohol, etc. Part of it is the relationship between IQ and future time orientation. Part of it is the lack of a culture that helps prevent people from making stupid decisions. And part of it is that if you live a crappy life, you’re likely to seek validation and excitement wherever you can get it. The local crack dealer/meth cooker represents a long shot chance at something better and more exciting than work at the BK drive-thru or the local WalMart.
As for solidly middle and upper middle-class broads it should be obvious that they tend to adopt a strategy of ‘shoot for alpha, use beta as a safety net.’ While most women with decent life prospects will, at some point, have relations with men of questionable character, they overwhelmingly choose to settle down with stable provider types. There’s a reason why it’s news when some professional chick decides to throw her life away and take up with a low life.
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In the early 50s, a young Elizabeth Taylor, barely 20 years old, ran down a road to save a male friend’s life by sticking her hand down his bloodied throat to pull his tongue back out. I respect that a lot. Paglia was smart to notice that Taylor actually liked men.
Paglia did a great interview there. She’s one of the few fems on the side of reason.
I wonder what Elizabeth’s fate would have been if the later husband who had her in line, Mike Todd, hadn’t died in that plane crash and been replaced by the wimpy house-husband Eddie Fischer whom she then cuckolded left and right with Richard Burton. By marrying Burton, she sealed her fate because he just used up the rest of her beautiful years and handed her to the likes of that con-artist who married her for the money in the 1990s. These were all her decisions, of course.
Notice I don’t write “Liz” Taylor because she hated being called that and that would be disrespecting the dead.
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Sure, upper middle class chicks “settle” for beta-providers when they marry.
But marriage is NO protection against being outbid by a competitior who is able to DHV.
People are forgetting here that the divorce rate is AT LEAST 50%.
Sure, women love stability.
On the side.
Their main attraction, was, is, and will be, always, EXCITEMENT.
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I have a lot of respect for Elizabeth Taylor, but along with this respect comes the admission that she was an excellent example of Female instincts in action.
That said, she was also mondo hot in her time.
I’d have tried to squeeze myself into her social circle.
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Cool, with her being dead now
she won’t mind that
your asian
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@Corporal Hicks
Sure, upper middle class chicks “settle” for beta-providers when they marry
But marriage is NO protection against being outbid by a competitior who is able to DHV.</I.
Or being cheated on. Trust me.
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@Corporal Hicks
Sure, upper middle class chicks “settle” for beta-providers when they marry
But marriage is NO protection against being outbid by a competitior who is able to DHV.
Or being cheated on. Trust me.
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A divorce rate of 50% does not mean that at any given moment you are in a coin-toss jeopardy of being divorced. That 50% includes marriages that end in one day, etc. or are started between 18-year-olds. If you are 25 and marry, you have no where near a 50% chance of divorce. More like 12%. In other words, unless you have no game whatsoever, you’re pretty safe.
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Young men: go back, right now, and read Evil Alpha and Corp. Hicks’ thought on marriage and beta status.
Then read it a third time. Now accept the horror: It. Is. All. True. All that society tells you about your marriage will be a lie.
I know you don’t believe that. I know you think your girl is special and That Could Never Happen to Me ™.
But trust me, when you are 43 this is what you will be seeing:
(1) your buddies getting financially SKINNED by wives they doted on for years.
(2) your buddies losing businesses they slaved at for 15-20 years, while their middle-aged wives spend the money on loser douchebags who move into the marital home and yell at your buddies’ kids. The kids cry a lot at that point. The women, however, still adoringly suck the douchebags’ dicks, which they never did for their exhusbands. (You think I am kidding?)
(3) your buddies going all sad-sack and hanging out with each other, before moping their way into a relationship with some used-up, dependent chick their own age or even older, just trying to survive emotionally until their next court-allowed visit with their kids. Those kids are about the only thing keeping them from pullling a Papa Hemingway with the family shotgun.
Guys, marriage is a huuuuuuge fucking risk for you. If you go that route, go in knowing that. Also, two bits of advice: (1) always be EMOTIONALLy and FINANCIALLY in a spot where the woman, not you, will be fucked if the marriage goes south and (2) make sure she understands that if she does bad shit and the marriage goes south, you will not play the game like all those other pathetic mopes who just take it and keep paying the bills. You need not say (2) explicitly, but make sure it is communicated in a way that registers.
I know, I know, women say that is outrageous and wrong. But guys who follow those rules seems to stay married, and often apparently happily so for both parties.
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The average divorce rate may hover somewhere around 50%, but once you disaggregate it, you find that the rate is much lower for college-educated women and for women who marry later and women who come from 2-parent households, etc.
[Editor: Re: women who marry later in life; it’s easy to be virtuous when your options are limited.]
Looking at lower-income broads can provide helpful incite, but it does tend to overstate the case for women’s attraction to sociopaths.
[The marriage market is not the sexual market. hth.]
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@Gorb
Divorced, cheated on, cheated on still married, cheated on and then divorced….
You’re right.
The Estrogen Hamster runs wild unless SERIOUSLY tamed by an Alpha.
Only Mike Todd could tame Elizabeth Taylor. He was 20 years older than she and was always 3 steps ahead of her. I’m sure she LOVED it.
It’s true. Taylor was the LAST pre-feminist female movie star. She LOVED men.
Women today HATE men.
Thus, the hamster has gone batshit-insane….
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insight*
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The AVERAGE 18 year old co-ed is way hotter than the average 18 year old ‘hood & trailer hoe.
@anon
Exactly why would someone who emotes like a girl think they are good at logic?
You can buy the feminist line all you want that “accomplished” women are “hotter”, but it just ain’t true. The average 18 year old “coed” does not look better naked (let alone way better) than her more economically challenged 18 year old sister (I’m trying to speak your language).
Both groups of females are roughly the same in physical attractiveness, yet the stripper class surely knows how to work a pole better. Yet like most Manginas you have a fetish for “college” girls but fail to realize it and so would rather fuck a random “smart” chick than take your chances with women who are as good looking, but also on average way better at things sexual.
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@Gramps
“It is worth nothing that at least one of them wound up a victim of murder by her client. ”
Yeah, I couldn’t care less either lol. Great Freudian slip.
I’ve heard that story before, and its just further evidence that female lawyers are the most vile scum on the planet.
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I have a buddy that is a retired Odin’s Warrior, probably the most notorious biker gang in the world. They are from Oz. He told me they had model quality women at their parties all the time and most of the members dated hot looking women because they were turned on by that biker mystique. I learned this long before PUA became a household word.
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Carve it in stone for future generations of man AND women.
Men love youth and beauty. Women love charisma and power.
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Jerry,
This is exactly my experience and difficulty. Kinda makes me feel better knowing I’m not alone.
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@Corporal Hicks
@Gorb
Divorced, cheated on, cheated on still married, cheated on and then divorced….
I was one of the guys being the cheater. I heard what women said. It made me wonder why on Earth I’d ever get married without having absolute, complete hand over my woman, and confidence enough to maintain it forever.
Nice girls and bad girls stepping out. Overwhelmed “By the moment”. “It was just something about him.” Completely unconscious about it all.
Completely predictable, really, in a general sense.
Alphas often distrust women as a category of being. From a male perspective, this is the correct attitude to have. We’re not duplicitous or manipulative in the same way.
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@Passingby,
And add:
Men, *always* keep a good portion of your wealth securely stashed away beyond the reach or knowledge of divorce lawyers.
During a divorce, there’s no moral right or wrong: The woman is usually out for blood, especially if she chose to leave on her own.
A woman who loved you one moment will be as cold as pack ice and as mercenary as a South African guarding Congolese diamond mines.
This climate makes “sharing” nothing more than a sign of weakness.
Watch out for flanking attacks, too: Lawyers’ basic strategies, including feminist lawyers, is to make bogus “child molestation” and “Emotional abuse” charges to squeeze you harder.
Lawyers will tell you this: Most of these charges are completely gratuitous.
Note that you rarely have any legal remedy.
Smart lawyers for guys advise doing what lawyers tell women to do:
– remove the kids from the family home before you separate. Lodge them with your parents or siblings.
File and deliver divorce proceedings.
As the caretaker of the kids, you have equal rights at this point. De facto possession falls to you. If she wants access, oblige her to sign an access agreement.
VIDEOTAPE interactions with the kids. Make sure there are dozens of supporting witnesses.
Immediately file counter-claims as she files them; restraining orders will fail if you’re both filing abuse charges simultaneously.
If she breaks the pre-divorce custody arrangements, immediately have them enforced. Be wary of double-crosses.
Note that lawyers are utterly machiavellian. Women have rationalization hamsters – they WILL NOT work in the “best interests of the family” or kids – they can excuse almost any behavior they engage in while vilifying you.
What’s more, the nicer you are, the more supplicating, the worse she’ll gouge you.
There are usually a few aggressive lawyers for men. Most of them are women. They know the game. Lawyer-up early; keep detailed records; follow them up. They always say the worst mistake men make is assuming the woman will do “the right thing”.
They won’t. They will feel entitled by justice to whatever they can get.
Just see the average divorce proceeding to see how fair it is.
In this game, the only advantage, if the relationship is in the toilet, is to get out first – and be the first one to fire a shot across the other’s bow.
*She will not do the right thing*. She will destroy you if she can.
This is the modern divorce industry, mated to the on-of switch of female emotional capriciousness.
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Alphas often distrust women as a category of being. From a male perspective, this is the correct attitude to have. We’re not duplicitous or manipulative in the same way
That and the critical fact that it only takes about 5 minutes for a typical woman to round up some strange.
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Corporal Hicks has it da f*ck right!
Keep her ‘gina tingle (or Hamster, whichever) entertained or you’ll get f*cked hard w/o K-Y! It’s “I do, until I don’t feel like it” at that alter, remember that.
Go “Woman, get back in that kitchen and make me some pie!” and f*ck her in the ass, or someone else will… and he’ll take her and the house, half your money and your kids she’ll bring with her.
That’s ALL women care about these days, gettin’ f*cked like a whore by some lowlife who excites them. When they’re old, alone, despised by children and ex-family members, and raising multiple cats for company, they’ll be sorry (and so will you) but then it’s too late.
Treat her like a cum dumpster, she’ll love it… and keep coming back for more.
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The study is interesting, but ghetto chicks are not very good looking. Hell, the only time they are even skinny is when they are in high school.
If these criminal dudes where banging & impregnating top shelf pussy, then that would be surprising…but for the most part they are just bang ghetto chicks.
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Divorce is WAR.
And millions of Femerica beta candy-asses still believe that Kupcake will be “fair.”
The delusion is really bottomless.
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Gay guys are afflicted with the Rationalization Hamster too… witness “bug chasers” who get/give AIDS for the bare-backin’ thrill of it.
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OT: big surprise, there really aren’t armies of underage prostitutes larger than the actual fan base, following every team sport from city to city:
http://www.dallasobserver.com/2011-03-24/news/women-s-funding-network-sex-trafficking-study-is-junk-science/
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That’s ALL women care about these days, gettin’ f*cked like a whore by some lowlife who excites them. When they’re old, alone, despised by children and ex-family members, and raising multiple cats for company, they’ll be sorry (and so will you) but then it’s too late.
Your just scratching the proverbial surface, Anon …
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Bird’s Eye View: Regrets Of An Old Feminist Hag…
I hate the world for teaching me those lessons. I remember complaining about how my husband never grew up. But as the tears streamed down my face, I came to the conclusion that I had never grown up. I never learned about compromise, trust, tolerance, niceness. I was a bitch, pure and simple. I know now that being a bitch is not about strength or independence. Being a bitch is about being repellent, unpleasant, unhappy, and lonely. Being a bitch is nothing more than being a spoiled princess who is too selfish or stupid to accept the joy in life.
I had become a fat, unpleasant, middle-aged princess because I had refused to grow up..
Sure, I had taken on grown-up responsibilities (marriage, career, house, motherhood) but at the core of my psyche was a 13-year-old girl who stamped her feet and whined when she didn’t get her way. Of course, I had stopped whining years ago but I simply replaced the whining with emotional manipulation and ornery bitchiness. No wonder I was still single and my two teenaged sons spent all their free time with their father.
http://byrdeye.blogspot.com/2008/03/regrets-of-old-feminist-hag.html
*Man, I feel reeeeel sorry for those poor cats that have to share living quarters with these types of, um, ‘ladies’..
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Bingo. The poor cats. I really feel sorry for them.
Shrill feminist hags, baggy, ill-kempt, and lonely will undoubtedly wail away with their (ironically) Alpha cats.
Bed. Made. Lie.
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“You never really know a woman until you meet her in court.” – Norman Mailer
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“How complete is the deception that Beauty is goodness.”
– Leo Tolstoy
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Why does everyone paint ‘criminals’ with the same brush, as though all of them are a-holes? Is it possible that women are attracted to a lot of them because they see something we are overlooking?
Not all criminals are violent brutes. Women who go for criminals aren’t just selecting this subsect of criminals.
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Off topic, perhaps:
http://www.usnews.com/science/articles/2011/03/23/brain-chemical-influences-sexual-preference-in-mice
Of mice and men, food for thought, perhaps.
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@BG
“When masculinity is outlawed only outlaws will be masculine.”
LIKE, very much.
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@Reality Check (ironically in need of one)
That whole thing is wishful thinking by a man. That the story to which you link was written by a man and passed off as one from a woman. No student of game should have fallen for the idea that these BPD women ever learn to ask themselves these questions, even when alone with their cats.
http://www.reddit.com/comments/64asw/for_my_entire_life_i_was_told_and_i_believed_that/c02sk8i
Sadly, they never ever learn. They never ever regret. They keep the same friends who tell them long into their old age that they are still cool and with it. There is no steep drop of the cliff like this, and their kids don’t hate them, at least to their faces.
Did you really believe that someone that selfish and narcississtic would ever stop blaming and manipulating? Like I said, wishful thinking.
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Reality Check, that link needs to be repeated:
<a href="http://byrdeye.blogspot.com/2008/03/regrets-of-old-feminist-hag.html"http://byrdeye.blogspot.com/2008/03/regrets-of-old-feminist-hag.html
As Insty would say, read the whole thing. A real eye opener, if it’s real (one commenter suggested that it was written by a man, as no woman was capable of the honesty and introspection required to produce it). And in many ways the story of my marriage and the marriages of many of my friends.
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Damn it, munged the link. WordPress needs an “edit comment” feature. Or I need to be more careful. Or both.
Reality Check, that link needs to be repeated:
http://byrdeye.blogspot.com/2008/03/regrets-of-old-feminist-hag.html
As Insty would say, read the whole thing. A real eye opener, if it’s real (one commenter suggested that it was written by a man, as no woman was capable of the honesty and introspection required to produce it). And in many ways the story of my marriage and the marriages of many of my friends.
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Lovecraft said: “Not all criminals are violent brutes. Women who go for criminals aren’t just selecting this subsect of criminals.”
I.e., Eww, where are all the nice criminals?! (I’m sure some ripped-off/abandoned/pregnant/VD-infected/abused/etc. women out there wants to say it.)
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The real ugly truth is that most of these women you speak of are minorities; esp Hispanics and African-American, which fund the repeating cycle of bastards joining gangs and killing each other.
Also the “wrong” kind of white people and Asians (South Asia: Filipinos, Vietnamese, Malaysian and etc.) also contribute to this phenomenon.
The many sub-urb dwelling college educated SWPLs have a hard time coming in contact with these people, since they don’t associate with them or send their kids to shitty public schools. The “bad boys” in this group are lawyers and bankers.
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@Lovecraft
http://law.jrank.org/pages/1363/Intelligence-Crime-Measuring-size-IQ-crime-correlation.html
Brute: beastly: resembling a beast; showing lack of human sensibility.
IQ and civility are correlated hence it makes sense that on average criminals have less IQ than a law abiding citizen, which makes them brutes.
Its like the Indians vs. Colonizing English. Who do you think has the higher IQ? Who is seen as the savage?
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Southern Man said: ”
Reality Check, that link needs to be repeated:
http://byrdeye.blogspot.com/2008/03/regrets-of-old-feminist-hag.html
As Insty would say, read the whole thing.”
Damn straight! Abso-f*ckin’-lutely!
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Reality Check said:
“Man, I feel reeeeel sorry for those poor cats that have to share living quarters with these types of, um, ‘ladies’..”
Guys, you know that exasperated, annoyed sigh we make when getting bugged by the nagging wife? Well, turns out that ALL male mammals do that too. Dogs and CATS certainly do.
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Tyrone,
Your friend’s BSing you.
Biker chicks are notoriously ugly. Only in the movies do bikers get to fuck babes.
I’m serious.
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Tyrone,
By the way, I’m not disputing that thugs/gansters don’t attract babes.
Just not bikers. Biker culture is a train wreck — no hot chick wants to pull train with 20 beta biker losers.
And let’s face, the foot soldiers in a bike gang are world class losers.
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We’re dealing with four things really (IMHO).
1.To get laid regularly you have to be a bit of a jerk (ladder theory). When I was a nice guy, I rarely got laid. Then I changed, developed this “edge” and got laid regularly.
2. To have a LTR like marriage you have to be nice too or you’ll spend your life in the penalty box. In fact you’ll spend your life in the penalty box once you get married anyway. Kids, mortgages, trapped in jobs you hate. Luckily, I really like my kid.
3. Chances are very good that the longer you are married the less you will desire or lust after your wife the way you did early on. So your choice of a mate better be for something more than sex. If you are hell bent on getting married then you’ll have to figure out what that other thing is if you want the marriage to last. Or get a mistress but that’s not game. That’s deception.
4. If you decide “game” is more important than marriage, don’t get married at all but game as you age is very different than when you are in your 20’s or 30’s.
I hear guys say all the time that they will “game” while they are young then settle down in a LTR (marriage). You are just putting off the inevitable. After 10-15 years you’ll be staring down the same alley that the rest of us which is dealing with #2 and #3.
I have done all of the above even though I waited until “only” 35 to get hitched. My game years, ages 22-34 were great. Marriage has been great too. But then I figured out #3.
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@Flahute
“You never really know a woman until you meet her in court.” – Norman Mailer”
Thank You.
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That feminist hag article is great but there’s literally zero chance a woman wrote it.
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Yes well of course women love thugs. Thugs get more, and better sex from women than non-Thugs. Therefore, more and more men will thug it up more and more.
A guy to be a “Middle Class” Alpha must be tall, good looking, highly verbal, very astute at reading people (including men), have high status in something: motorcycle racing, edgy artist, etc. By definition only very few men in the Middle Class can do this. They can be a thug. Indeed picking a fight and winning or at least giving a good account of one’s self is a far better action than anything else in securing sex and affection from women.
And yes, middle class women long for thugs too. They bang away as long as they don’t get caught in their social circle.
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The_King said: “The many sub-urb dwelling college educated SWPLs have a hard time coming in contact with these people, since they don’t associate with them or send their kids to shitty public schools. The “bad boys” in this group are lawyers and bankers.”
Yeah, “edgy” and “bad boy” are all just talk and posturing for ’em… actually DO thing or BE that way? Eww, that’s why losers are stick in the ghetto (condescending sniff) for SWPLs… why God created birth control and penicillin, you know.
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Looking at these “studies” it’s obvious that this is a basic category error. They are not studying “criminals” they are studying “convicts” a completely different class of persons. This is why ivory tower academic sociological “studies” are a joke. The little cosseted hot house plants of academia know next to nothing about actual real life and so can’t tell the difference between criminals and convicts. Convicts are UNSUCCESSFUL criminals. Surprise, surprise, surprise, they’re a little stupider than average folk.
Also, The category “criminals” contains many kinds of people that do not fall into the category “thugs”.
Again, it’s the reputation of possible criminality that is useful, that is all, just the reputation.
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I work as an attorney who practices in family court against these guys. Their ex-girlfriends are never, ever hot, and often have multiple children from multiple dudes who are all convicts. The sad part is we all have to pay taxes to deal with the trash being pooped out at an alarming rate. Meanwhile, doctors and lawyers I know either don’t want to have kids, or have a max of 2.0 children (and pray that neither turn out to be autistic).
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Kenny F’ing Powers said: “Their ex-girlfriends are never, ever hot, and often have multiple children from multiple dudes who are all convicts. … Meanwhile, doctors and lawyers I know either don’t want to have kids, or have a max of 2.0 children (and pray that neither turn out to be autistic).”
Like the clip from Idiocracy… now a documentary.
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For Social Work, nothing can beat a Ruger Vaquero in .45 Colt. Especially when it is loaded up with Winchester PDX1 ammo. This type of ammo has been chosen by the FBI/CIAI for their agents use, after lots of careful study and trials , for the main purpose of efficently killing anyone who might make them feel the slightest bit nervous. Ha Ha, Fucking Ha.
I have several hundreds of rounds of this deadly evil stuff. So does everyone I know. And I am one of the good guys. I guess yu are going to have to swallow that on faith. Ha Ha Fucking hell…
I should stop now. I do not want to have to kill my probation officer just becvause she reads UseNet Blogs…
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@old guy
“Again, it’s the reputation of possible criminality that is useful, that is all, just the reputation.”
There is an alternate explanation, not mutually
exclusive to the one above.
How about: The men who have a certain amount
of “devil may care” or “derrring do” attitude are the
ones likely to end up in jail at some point.
The same attitude makes them attractive
to lots of women.
Thor
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The hard lesson that men have to get is that women have no concept of partnership – they are instinctively hierarchical and can only imagine themselves as leaders or leaners – no middle ground is possible. A man ends up being either a mouse or a rat – that is the rodentology of sex.
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This just in: Spurned woman, after a man refused to kiss her, fires four bullets into his house while he’s home:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/florida/woman-92-goes-ballistic-after-being-denied-kiss-874093
Great comments from guys who apparently read this blog regarding her feelings of entitlement.
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Here is a touching story of another wonderful American woman, one of Walmart’s best and brightest.
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Rum
Seeing the world as a morality play is a defect of the mind. Humans are innately social animals and we can’t help but see faces when we look up at at the forest canopy leaves, and we can’t help but see right and wrong when we see human actions. There are no faces in the trees. Genes are not acting out a morality play.
The fact that women choose to act “immorally” when they have the option only comes as a surprise when you retain the word immoral in your vocabulary.
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I’ve always considered the suit a conformist costume that symbolizes belonging to a clique. It’s like a military uniform for the capitalist class.
Chicks may dig uniforms, but they also dig the anti-uniform.
Consider the dot com billionaires. They were renowned for NOT wearing business suits. They were so far above the game that they didn’t have to conform. The boss who didn’t have any higher up – he could wear casual. And that’s what they did. And since then the highest status you can show is not the suit – it’s casual attire. Because it means you have no higher-ups.
There is an appeal to the solo man – the outside man. The rebel and the rogue.
And there is an appeal to the soldier – the man with the resources of a clan beside him.
People have natural personality preferences one way or the other. Some love a good suit, others can’t stand the implications of wearing one, and will go a lifetime without owning one. If you can be successful without a uniform – I think that causes a tingle in girls. It’s different than being successful as a suit.
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A corporate man is never an individual.
Girls are both scared of and attracted to the individuated man. The man not beholden to follow the rules of others.
Suits are cogs in a machine. A powerful machine – yes – and so they can have more power as a cog than as a free agent.
But a free agent is a an unknown quantity.
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“Every woman adores a facist.”
-Sylvia Plath
I understand the reasons why traditional society kept women’s sexuality under control through social and economic sanctions. Society reverts to a primitive state when women don’t need provider betas to provide for them and their young (ie black communities in America).
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Yes, women fall in love with disposable men. The like risk takers, because the man can die, at little actual risk to the woman, who will easily find a replacement mate. So women gamble by proxy, leveraging their bets – taking a small personal risk, leveraging it into the huge risk that the man takes. Women love risk taking men because it means they get to play loto with his life.
So don’t discount the viability of the rogue strategy today. Todays rogues are not military usurpers, they are entrepreneurs.
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Totally off topic but Ashton Kutscher is making me sick with his Twitter support for the Libya War that totally ignores all the hatred the 6.5 million lefties who follow him had for Bush about the Iraq War. Like in the book ‘1984’ the liberal masses seem to have no memory. At least Michael Moore is consistent (and he’s still a fat fool).
Lefties are literally “The Possessed” that Dostoevsky described them as (actual Russian translation of that book, Бесы, should have been “The Possessors,” meaning Dostoevsky was portraying leftists as trying to posses people’s minds).
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@Big Mike
@Anon
@whiskey
@xsplat
@Gorb
and many others…
Nice “brute” intelligence in the comments section for this thread.
This term refers to the “raw” intelligence of the public. Yes, there are an incredible number of flaming idiots out there, but at times, the raw, brute intuition and intelligence out there is dead on.
The quiz show “How to Make a Millionaire” proves this. The contestant has an option to ask the audience for assistance with one question. Almost invariably, the audience’s highest percentage pick is the correct one.
Same here. When the read all the comments in the aggregate, truths emerge.
Follow the thread, gents. It leads to happiness with a good woman.
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Who give a fuck what some hollywood poseur says? Ignore him.
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@old guy 9:15pm
“The category “criminals” contains many kinds of people that do not fall into the category ‘thugs’.”
Excellent point, not well-covered in the thread. A hell of lot of girls I know are excited by criminals alright…but not by thugs. They’re excited by criminals (or bad boys) in $800 suits.
Guys (over the age of 22):
You’re kidding yourself if you think girls are more attracted to you when your dressed like a, well, young guy…
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A guy I once did some vendor road trips with told me that after letting his hair grow dreadly and donning trashy clothes he got laid all over the place. He said that costume was way more successful than appearing kempt.
He was maybe 28, but you’ll find lots of old geezers pulling off the grateful dead look to advantage.
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In the dreads vs suit battle, it’s not a matter of which is more successful – it’s a matter of different signals both being sexually attractive.
On this thread we are examining why dreads are sexually attractive. Why the anti-social look and lifestyle gets you laid.
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SV Warrior
I thought putting off the inevitable was the point of living?
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I assume it is an act of rebellion and perhaps non-conformity, but when I see a guy in the turned yankee baseball cap and oversized shorts and tshirt with a hoodie ‘n’ sneakers I think all they need is a lunchbox and a slingshot in their back pocket to complete the look.
I guess it works.
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@xsplat
Thank you. I’m stunned at the number of married guys here posting that a sexless marriage (or at least drastically reduced sexlife) is “inevitable.”
Pure. beta. all. the. way.
“Staring down an alley” of no sex and no lust with your wife?
“The Force is weak in this one.”
The married beta morons here who no longer have lots of sex with their wives ought to consider learning a great approach to life called “Game.”
Your wife should put out on DEMAND. No ifs, ands, and buts. That’s what makes her a good wife.
Yeah, yeah. Go ahead. Chatter on about “bigger goals” and “waning lust” and “finding other connections” with your loved one.
Whatever.
That kind of talk is pure, unalloyed beta.
Guys, if they take care of themselves, should be banging away well into their 80’s.
If you MARRIED that ass, you should be tapping it on a PERSISTENT basis.
No excuses.
WAYYY too many married manginas here.
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@xsplat
Hmm, I thought this thread was about girls being attracted to criminal types. And old guy’s point was that not all criminals are dread types…
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One stratagey is to simply be the most extreme in whatever category you are competing in. For those with out intelligence or resources, they are forced to operate in the only area they can, which is the physical realm. And if they are below average in looks or athletisism then they are really screwed. For those who are outsiders or outliers this becomes acute.
This is why showing reckless bravery or behaving stupidly makes sense for the losers. It is the only way to garner attention. And as they say, even bad attention is better than no attention.
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Anton – do you not see the connections that I’m making? Do you think I’m saying that Wavy Gravy types are criminals?
Try harder and get back to me.
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This technique is also good practice for gaming ladies, but might give a good starting point to newbies:
http://www.raptitude.com/2009/04/how-to-always-have-something-better-to-talk-about-than-the-weather/
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Corporal, the notion of a companionate marriage is too foreign to me to comment on. I agree with you that sex for people with our proclivities is a priority.
On demand, yes. And not just sex. And when I stop feeling the urge to demand, somethings broken and needs either repairing or abandoning.
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@Corporal
You write well but you’ve really missed the point on the married guys losing lust (disclosure: I’ve never been married because I know how and why men come to regret it).
It’s about the wives losing their looks, not about the men being betas for no longer being attracted to those looks.
It sounds like, if you’re married, you are specifically still attracted to your wife after many years and your point of view is skewed along the lines of “I’m an alpha because I’ve kept her interested”. In that case, it’s great for you that she’s still a hottie worth gaming.
But that is not even remotely the point with most married men who simply are no longer attracted to the women as they, the women, grow older and fall out of shape. This is not directly related to whether the man is alpha or beta or whatever. He can still have the wife licking his hand, but he’s still no longer attracted to her.
On the outside one can argue that an alpha won’t let his wife fall out of shape, stay in the sun, smoke cigarettes.
But, even still, most of the “waning lust” lamentations you will see coming from men is that they simply want a younger model and wish they hadn’t committed to monogamy with someone who looks less and less attractive every year.
On top of that, I’ve seen people throwing around the term mangina on this thread outside of how it’s meant.
Beta does not equal mangina, of course.
And a newbie who might comment here but who hasn’t been trained to recognize feminist memes is not necessarily a beta nor a mangina either.
It’s best to just set newbies straight politely saying “Read the archives” or some other diplomatic nudge. The term Mangina is a harsh statement, not meant for guys who came to this blog and want to learn game in good faith.
A Mangina is a male who behaves like he doesn’t have a johnson; he acts like he doesn’t want sex or at least not optimal sex. This is usually a left winger or religious guy who dates or marries someone his own age because he agrees with feminists that it would be “wrong” not to do so. Ritmo, who trolls here often enough, would be a great example of a mangina. A mangina will also reject the idea of being a PUA because he “doesn’t want to manipulate women” or mess with someone who “isn’t his equal”.
A White Knighter, on the other hand, is someone who might have a great looking wife, like former Sam Brownback (who tricked the Republicans into voting for VAWA/IMBRA), and some gorgeous adult or teen daughters, and he wants to be chivalrous or father-like and PROTECT them all, often including all women whom he pedestalizes.
A White Knighter is defined more by his desire to regulate and punish other men for wanting or having sex while a Mangina is defined more by his seeming lack of desire to have good sex himself. It is possible to be both a Mangina and a White Knighter at the same time, but one usually picks one term to describe someone.
Both Manginas and White Knighters show a desire to sycophantically impress women with their attitudes online, even though many are posting anonymously (which renders the whole point of trying to impress a woman mute).
An unmarried White Knighter may want to get laid and will embrace the idea of being a PUA at least until he encounters resistance on this blog, in which case he stands to be cured of his affliction.
The above two terms are harsh and not meant for guys who came her in good faith and who just took the red pill or who are about to take the red pill.
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@ corporal hicks.
http://www.momlogic.com/2010/04/silda_spitzer_didnt_take_care_of_the_sex.php
Even though it was late even Silda finally figured it out… and she has a vagina. And yet we still have males like silicon valley, ahem, warrior who just don’t get it.
But I really shouldn’t complain too much. When I lived in Northern CA it was the wives of men like him who loved to be ass banged while enduring the inevitability of a sexless marriage.
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@xsplat
Good comments. I would add that sex should be a priority for ALL men, not just the guys on this Board.
If not, you’re a wussified candy-ass beta. Sorry if that hurts.
Ouch.
Bingo on the urge to DEMAND. Women need orders. Men give them.
If your woman is not following your orders, she does NOT respect you.
And why not?
Because you are not gaming her correctly, and thus no ‘gina tingles.
No ‘gina tingles means she does not respect you.
In other words, you’re a B.E.T.A. (“Boy Empty of Testosterone and Attitude”)
Stupid fucks.
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Although bikers may be natural enemies to hippies, they both share in being labeled as counter cultural.
Bohemians don’t follow rules. Bikers don’t follow rules.
Chicks dig not just outlaws and thugs – chicks dig guys who don’t follow rules. That nappy hipster is getting laid more than the plaid shirted square in the beemer.
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Eliot Spitzer’s wife blames herself for all his hot sex with prostitutes.
As she well SHOULD.
The woman didn’t put out. She failed. Epic. Fail.
She wasn’t a good wife who drained him dry every morning before work.
A good wife drains her husband’s balls on a regular basis.
The oxytocin bonding molecule is well-juiced.
Hubby doesn’t HAVE to go anywhere, because his cajones are joyous right at home.
This is well known throughout the world, except here in the USSA, and apparently, on this Board.
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On an unrelated note, I came across this today:
“Blessed is [s]he who expecteth nothing, for [s]he shall enjoy everything.” — G. K. Chesterton, quoted in The Intelligent Investor (Commentary) (2006 Revised Ed.) at 87.
What a great summary of why Skittles game works.
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@xsplat
No, I’m afraid I don’t see the connections you are trying to make. Maybe next time. No worries…
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@ Corporal Hicks
Any chance you might be willing to peruse
this?
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Access to birth control and sexual education seem to better explain family size in our society. Of course those who have a higher sexual market value will have more chances to procreate and more chances to impregnate women. However this data doesn’t distinguish between a religious person who has 10 kids with one women because he doesn’t believe in birth control, and an ex-con who has had 10 different children with 5 different women.
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Having moved among both bikers and hippies I’d have to say they are not enemies, their worlds do not intersect that much. Like freaks and hipsters and bohos they are outside, but there are many different kinds of outside.
Some chicks dig outside, some want inside, uniform f’ers are very real, ask any cop.
You need to be on one end of the authority line or the other, not in the middle.
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Access to birth control and sexual education seem to better explain family size in our society.
Women are getting knocked up by “jerks” because they want to not because they have to.
Since in America 40 calories will only cost you 4 cents and even prisoners have internet the whole idea that birth rates are “access” issues is liberal propaganda.
How ironic that you should mention Catholics in your quest to prove that in 2011 having babies is NOT purely decision.
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@old guy
“You need to be on one end of the authority line or the other, not in the middle.”
Oh yes.
Authority = power, even if you are not at the top
(but better the higher up you are)
Rebel = Might take power after the next intra-tribe
war. Likely to challenge the leaders – and might win.
(These days, VERY unlikely, but in small tribe
it would have been normal, a kind of democratic
centralism 20 000 – 200 000 BCE)
Thor
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i’m a little late for this party, but i had something very interesting (and related to this post) happen to me last night.
i was out barhopping with a group of friends last night. there was a girl in the group whom i hadn’t met before (friend of friend, etc.). she was a reasonably cute (6/7) brunette in her late 20s. she clearly came from a lower socioeconomic group than i come from and had some other obvious insecurities that i was able to exploit rather easily. in short, i ran some tight game (early physical contact, told her to buy me a drink, etc) and it wasn’t long before we started making out. based on past experience, i feel pretty confident i was going to close the deal that night.
anyway, that shit isn’t all that interesting. what IS interesting, however, is that we eventually met up with another group. in this group was a guy who just got out of prison. he was a chubby white guy with tons of tats who wore sloppy gangster clothes. as soon as this girl (who just minutes prior was making out with me) found out that he was recently out of prison, she essentially jumped out from my clutches and attached herself to this dude as if she needed him for life. i saw them go home together and i crashed on my friend’s couch. alone.
the objective reality is that i’m good-looking, smart, and funny. i have an important sounding job and make decent money. i am also unreasonably cock-sure of myself. that’s all pretty good, right? but, you know what i’m not? a real-deal badass. this dude was.
i certainly ain’t hating on the ex-con. he won fair and square. even still, my rational nature initially caused me to feel confused, befuddled. how could she pick him over me, i thought to myself last night. well, i don’t guess the answer is that complicated. all my stupid status stuff doesn’t stack up again the power of the tingle.
i don’t suppose there is any lesson here, i just thought it was a personal real-world confirmation of the sort of things we discuss here.
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*against, not again
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The Allure of a Man’s Uncertainty
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/13/fashion/13Studied.html
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@Silver fox
“The blog was sued, and called racist, and the authors banned……truth hurts, esp. when you make the Govt, Insurance, hospital companies look bad with cold hard census, welfare, & financial data.”
Yup. Actuaries, or anybody else who does the numbers,
they are HATED. It is even worse in the EU and Canada,
where you get charged criminally for expressing the
wrong opinion. Ask Geert Wilders, Mark Steyn and
many others.
Thor
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I wish someone could compile all the anecdotal and scientific evidence into one article. The guy who was worth half a million and went on a spree killing because he hadn’t had sex in 20 years, compared to guys like ted bundy who were rapists/serial killers who receive dozens of marriage proposals.
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“Authority = power, even if you are not at the top
(but better the higher up you are)
Rebel = Might take power after the next intra-tribe
war. Likely to challenge the leaders – and might win.
(These days, VERY unlikely, but in small tribe
it would have been normal, a kind of democratic
centralism 20 000 – 200 000 BCE)”
Exactly, power now or possibly later … The guys in the middle of the power axis will never get it. As to “These days, VERY unlikely”, I’m not so sure, when I read the news it seems everything might be in play soon, up might just become down and down might just become up. We live in interesting times, keep your eyes and ears open, your head down and your face impassive and watch out for the Main Chance.
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@yeahokcool
I think your story reveals several important points about these statistics. You mention that the woman you were out with was from a lower socioeconomic class than you. That largely characterizes the women who are willing to “raw dog” it with a convict and bear his children. I.e., these are women for whom effective birth control is difficult to maintain for financial reasons, and for whom, in the absence of educational and professional opportunities, becoming a mother is the only major milestone of adulthood.
In this light, it’s disgusting to use a woman’s lower social class to “trick” her into bed. But it also sheds some light on why she might prefer to be with an ex-con, presumably someone whose social class is closer to hers. Sure, he might knock her up, but at least the only “insecurities” he’ll exploit in the process is her lower social status as a woman. Unlike you, who was trying to lord over her your gender and your income level.
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What wrote:
“I neither like jerks nor nice guys. It’s not one or the other. It’s WHEN. It’s timing. There’s a place/time to whom to be a jerk and there are place/times to whom to be nice. Knowing when and when not to do something ..how much to ……to whom to do it to…..to do or not to do….that’s what I like.
It’s not having a set of skills..game…traits, but knowing when , how , where, to whom to apply it to be effective, getting what you want…..that’s what I like and that attractive.
Being able to be flexible in thoughts, feelings, behavior depending on who you are engaged with is the ultimate!”
This must be the Alpha et Omega of female insanity posing as thinking. Now I have proof that women are indeed insane (compare to us males i.e. normal human beings). I also have an excuse to look forward to the islamic conquest of Europe, which will eventually get you back into the kitchen and tell you to shut the fuck up and stop being slaves to your insanity and hormones.
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@Nicole
You’re totally wrong. You weren’t there. You don’t know what I said or what I did. You’ve assumed, for whatever irrational reason, that I treated this girl poorly.
Sure, I didn’t go into tremendous detail, but the girl was a college graduate who works as a social worker. We had very pleasant conversation and a lot fun flirting with one another. Neither my income nor my job were ever a topic of discussion (that shit is boring and lame to talk about).
Seriously, though, where was the “trickery” here? Have you even read other articles on this blog? Do you consider all game to be mere trickery? What about human interaction generally? Should I have been repulsive to her? Should I have talked with her about things that she doesn’t care or know about so as to “keep it real?” Perhaps you’re just quibbling over the semantics of “exploit” and “insecurities.” Everyone has insecurities. Part of what makes life interesting is recognizing those insecurities in others and assuaging/exploiting them to your advantage. Whether you like it or not, that’s life.
Fact is, she was – as much as me – looking to hook-up on Saturday night. As a woman, however, she controls which guy ultimately gets laid. She actually tried to play me and the ex-con against one another for the better part of an hour. In so doing, she was trying to exploit my insecurities (my insecurity over not getting laid that night) for her personal gain (potentially having two men compete with one another by lavishing her with attention).
And, honestly, what does this last bit even mean? “Unlike you, who was trying to lord over her your gender and your income level.”
You need to get laid.
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You know what they say……food cooked by an insane, hormonal driven woman ALWAYS tastes better 🙂
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I can’t believe none of this has led to any discussion about whether criminals — or at least violent criminals — should be sterilized upon conviction.
If you believe that criminality is even remotely hereditary, then these numbers would seem to make that a relatively obvious idea.
And you wouldn’t even be stripping many people of the joys fathers get from raising their kids because most of these folks never even see their kids.
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there’s really no such thing as ‘tricking’ a woman into bed.
that term is often used by women retrospectively when they bang a guy and regret it. and by beta chumps who can’t fathom why alphas get all the poon.
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You know what they say……food cooked by an insane, hormonal driven woman ALWAYS tastes better
do not burn that stuffed bunny hot pot, woman.
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Let’s not forget that “criminals” are what feminists and betas call men who fuck their (the feminists’ and betas’) daughters. Many say that a good portion of the “Sex Offenders Lists” consist of men who did something that was legal in most places or did something fun like skinny dip, streak at a baseball game or do their girlfriend in the backseat of a car or on a beach at night. Talk of sterilizing such guys is seriously premature.
One needs to be careful of what defines a “criminal”, especially in the feminist west (The Swedes say Assange is a sex criminal).
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@itsme
You know what they say……food cooked by an insane, hormonal driven woman ALWAYS tastes better
“do not burn that stuffed bunny hot pot, woman.”
lol!!!
it’s snake soup….a Chinese delicacy!! hehe!! only for you honey hee! hee! hee!
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From what I’ve seen, men who have been to prison tend to get with the most bottom of the barrel women in terms of looks, personality, lifestyle, having other baby daddies etc.
Ever seen who shows up on visitation day? It looks like sea world.
Many of the women who go with cons are drug addicts, mentally ill, disabled, sociopaths and prostitutes.
There are some smooth drug dealer types who mostly avoid serious prison time who get fine girls, but the typical career criminal gets only dregs.
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