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Spin Spin, Hamster!

April 12, 2011 by CH

I know this guy who cleans up with women, compared to the typical man. I’ve seen him in action and girls get that twinkle in their eyes within five minutes talking with him. He’s shown me pics of lovers in states of half dress on his bed. Here’s the catch: the guy is short. Not a little under average; he’s a short man who would lose line of sight in a crowd of women.

I listen to this guy carefully because he’s living proof that game can overcome severe sexual market handicaps. He’s decent looking, but not enough to compensate for his diminutive height. He dresses well — sort of a cross between Euro cafe and biker chic — and exudes confidence in the field. (Whether he has this confidence at home is open to question, but regardless he knows to turn it on when it’s go time.)

Based on the obvious and superficial qualities — the ones we can see at a glance — you would expect him to do a little bit better than the average short man, which is still not very good. You wouldn’t expect him to get the numbers of cute chicks he does. His secret is something readers of this blog should understand by now: his game is airtight. Solid gold. He looks girls piercingly in the eye when he picks them up, he doesn’t care if they’re sitting or standing, his body language projects dominance despite his height, and he negs better than any player I know. (As a short man, he has to get out front with the negs, or he’ll get blown out too quickly.) He is borderline asshole with just the merest hint of vulnerability, which is exactly how the women like it. He is charming and suave — traits he says he learned over the years hanging out with alpha men who do well with women. If his shortness bothers him, he doesn’t show it. He has never put himself down or whined about the unfairness of it all, as long as I’ve known him.

He says after his experience with game, he decided to switch careers into sales, and has cleaned up professionally, too. I asked him once how he got started with game.

“Online dating.”

“You’re kidding. You don’t seem like the online dating sort.”

“At first, it was a disaster. I didn’t fib about my height. I didn’t want chicks meeting me for dates thinking I was six inches taller. My game wasn’t polished then, so I didn’t have the confidence in my skills that I could turn a bad date around.”

“So you put your real height in your profile?”

“Yup. Pics, too. Result: No bites. Girls have tons of qualifications for what they want in men, and height is near the top.”

“So you gave up on online dating?”

“Nope. I rearranged my profile to emphasize my pickiness. Right out of the gate I was disqualifying girls hard. I’ve gotta say that I was never a bigger asshole than online.”

“So it started working.”

“Not as much as I wanted, but that wasn’t the point. I knew as long as girls could quickly screen men online for failing their cliched checklists they would screen me out with a click. The beauty of it though was that I was beginning to get interest from girls who *specifically* wrote that they wanted taller men in their profiles. I banged a few of them and this was after they said they wouldn’t normally date men shorter than themselves, but I was ‘different’.”

“Once you took it to the field, it must have gotten a lot tougher, what with the competition and all.”

“The field was easier! The same game I ran online worked ten times better when I could walk up to a chick and talk to her face to face. Most men don’t even bother approaching. You approach, and you’ve leapfrogged 90% of your competition. All those qualifications that girls list in their online profiles just disappear when they’re talking to a smooth bastard. Forget that stuff girls say they want in men. 6 foot, high paying career, jock, Ivy educated, blah blah blah… it’s all bullshit they hang onto because it’s easy to quantify in their heads and makes sense to their parents. They don’t know what they want. They just react to men who turn them on, but there’s no way you can get them to describe what it is about those men that makes them stand out. Ask a girl what she likes in men, and she’ll rattle off some stupid list she read in Cosmo, and then she’ll go home to her bartender boyfriend while her phone is lighting up with calls from all those nice guys with good jobs who are politely asking to take her out on expensive dates.”

***

A woman’s 463 bullet point checklist is suddenly rendered null and void when she is in the company of a man with game/charisma. The qualifications she lists in her OkCupid profile or wherever are meant to be read as “hamster can change policy without prior notice.” If you have good game, you will chuckle to yourself over the many women whose qualifications you did not meet, but who slept with you anyway. The hamster can rationalize away everything from money to education to, yes, even shortness when it is being seduced by a captivating predator.

Maxim #463: Do not underestimate the rapidity with which a woman will jettison her conventional mate criteria when exposed to the attentions of a charismatic man.

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  1. on April 12, 2011 at 5:03 pm Frank Lee

    Very impressive. Shortness is a helluva handicap in the mating market.

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  2. on April 12, 2011 at 5:05 pm maurice

    The checklist is always 463 points. A consistent meme- and matches the Maxim number this time.

    I can see how the asshole-qualifying thing would work online- flip the script, etc.- but you’d have to be careful how to use it face-to-face. Calibrate, etc. He’d have to be exceptionally charming or good-looking to get away with hard negs or qualification as in dating sites.

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  3. on April 12, 2011 at 5:06 pm c.eJake

    any tips on sexualizing the conversation, and dealing with shit tests associated with those topics? (i.e., “We just met!” and things of that nature)

    I find that while I get IOIs from women, I have a hard time increasing the sexual tension.

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  4. on April 12, 2011 at 5:14 pm Riff Dog

    I’ve seen it a thousand times where a girl will be with some guy who is the opposite of what she says she wants. This is a great example.

    “What are you looking for?” is actually a very difficult question to answer. (For girls, at least. For guys, of course, it’s an easy answer: “Nice tits and the ability to suck me without scraping me with her teeth.”) Most girls don’t really *know* what they want because they don’t understand what makes themselves tick. So the resort to the usual “Tall, good looking, athletic, smart . . . you know . . . Riff Dog!”

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  5. on April 12, 2011 at 5:19 pm cynical optimist

    “hamster can change policy without prior notice.”
    very funny that statement made my evening..

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  6. on April 12, 2011 at 5:20 pm Anonymous

    Only curious, how short are we talking here?

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  7. on April 12, 2011 at 5:20 pm Riff Dog

    I’m especially struck that he had such success online, which is basically home of the checklist. Since there’s generally no way to avoid to filling in your height (or age or weight, which are easy veto items for girls on dating sites,) I’d have assumed this would be an insurmountable obstacle.

    I’d love to see some of the stuff he wrote to see exactly how he accomplished this.

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  8. on April 12, 2011 at 5:26 pm theprivateman

    Shortness is almost an insurmountable handicap.

    That being said, this post is quite illuminating regarding charisma.

    As for the online dating thing, most guy’s profiles are exceedingly bland and generic and that’s good for guys who know some Game, even the online sort.

    Having a profile that sets a guy apart (amazing photos and well-written confident words) is the first step, regardless of height.

    Here’s the thing about women’s online profiles – they state their wants and needs based mostly on social expectations. Those are their words.

    Their actions are based on the biological imperative, even in the realm of online dating.

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  9. on April 12, 2011 at 5:33 pm what

    It’s not too difficult to be taller than me. I’m only 5’2″! hehe!! BUT….I like looking up to a guy, but I don’t like them taller than 6’….it hurts my neck . haha!! My guy is 6″…perfect!

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  10. on April 12, 2011 at 5:37 pm Cauthon

    I think this is the hardest part for nonbelievers of game to understand.

    Once a conversation gets rolling, a girl isn’t judging you based on your stats; she’s judging you on your behavior.

    Mentioning that you once dated a French girl and looking away wistfully for a second or two will do more than subtly hinting that you have a six figure job and flashing a douchey smile.

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  11. on April 12, 2011 at 5:47 pm Dan

    Thanks for this post. Have been in a slump and this gives me some motivation.

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  12. on April 12, 2011 at 5:59 pm collegeslacker

    Spot on as always.

    Classic example in college: I usually get chicks saying they would never give the time of days to assholes who only hook up with “jerk” players and they’re looking for relationships, but then hey what do you know she’s in my bed by the end of the night.

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  13. on April 12, 2011 at 6:02 pm Bill Brasky

    Lets not forget that personality factors like charisma are highly genetic…not as much as shortness, obviously, but you don’t just change your personality.

    [Editor: True (although I would argue about calling it “highly” inherited), but at least men have a chance to improve their personalities. Women born ugly have no such choice.]

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  14. on April 12, 2011 at 6:02 pm Ludwig

    “Bring the movies.”

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  15. on April 12, 2011 at 6:12 pm Colt

    This post makes me feel really good. I have only recently started going out/sarging… only to become to acutely aware of my vertical shortcomings where I previously never had been. I’m 5’6″ by the way.

    I should add that I have started to wear 2.5″ lifts for when I go out and I believe that every man in the game who is under as much as 6′ should have a 2-3″ pair in his closet. It’s only fair considering that women wear heels.

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  16. on April 12, 2011 at 6:17 pm beta_plus

    Where does the short alpha live, and more importantly, where was he living when he learned his game? If he did it in some place like DC or NYC, that’s not really the same as pulling it off in Toronto or Copenhagen.

    Once you have solid game, it travels well. But some places (mainly places where men aren’t as tall and single women are more available) are going to have a much smaller “hill” to climb over in order to learn it.

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  17. on April 12, 2011 at 6:17 pm Colt

    This post makes me feel really good. I have only recently started going out/sarging… only to become acutely aware of my vertical shortcomings where I previously never had been. I’m 5’6″ by the way.

    I should add that I have started to wear 2.5″ lifts for when I go out and I believe that every man in the game who is under as much as 6′ should have a 2-3″ pair in his closet. It’s only fair considering that women wear heels.

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  18. on April 12, 2011 at 6:18 pm JMN

    “…Ask a girl what she likes in men, and she’ll rattle off some stupid list she read in Cosmo, and then she’ll go home to her bartender boyfriend while her phone is lighting up with calls from all those nice guys with good jobs who are politely asking to take her out on expensive dates.”

    Having recently been on the end of this shit test, he could not be more correct. She is now banging a married (common law) self-employed, pot smoking, house painter AND a bar owner with a 20-something year old girlfriend.

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  19. on April 12, 2011 at 6:34 pm joseph_went_south

    Maurice:

    “I can see how the asshole-qualifying thing would work online- flip the script, etc.- but you’d have to be careful how to use it face-to-face. Calibrate, etc. He’d have to be exceptionally charming or good-looking to get away with hard negs or qualification as in dating sites.”

    Actually it’s much closer to the opposite of what you state. Well placed negs are just good game. They work. There is no question of “getting away with” anything.

    OTOH if the WOMAN thinks you’re very good looking then over negging is likely to hurt her severely and blow her out.

    Note that when guys say “you must be very good looking” they usually don’t have a clue what a WOMAN actually perceives as “good looking”.

    “good looking”, from a woman’s perspective, is a charming man with well calibrated, strong game. Don’t make the mistake of projecting your masculine ideas of beauty on to a woman.

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  20. on April 12, 2011 at 6:39 pm cereal

    “Lets not forget that personality factors like charisma are highly genetic…not as much as shortness, obviously, but you don’t just change your personality.”

    OH GOD THERE TRULY IS NO HOPE FOR ME 😦 😦 😦

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  21. on April 12, 2011 at 6:39 pm last tango

    maybe it’s projection, but I actually find being within checklist and w/o any game, you know typical beta “porkchop”, is worse. Boring. Archetypal provider type. If anything, even with game, some big dude has to calibrate a lot more not to come off anti-social. Be more of a “good” guy… While as a shorter bad boy guy you can turn the asshole up to the 11. Just be ready to protect your ass, lolz. Then I’m not that short, about 5’9″. But I know quite a few really short guys (boxers) who even w/o asshole part are pretty f’n confident and I’m sure would clean up. I think height has more to do with being more confident and attractive while growing up, so there’s less beta baggage, rather than some evolutionary thing like (big) tits.

    Colt – do search for “Bring the movies.”.. The thing about all that game stuff – say now you getting outgamed by bigger dudes. But if you were alone with a girl, shorter than you and at least theory down to fuck – could you seduce her? How? Get that part down, then start worrying about lifts.

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  22. on April 12, 2011 at 6:43 pm walawala

    Guaranteed hamster spinner,

    “I thought you were different”….The merits of this are well-documented here.

    The opposite also works: “You’re different….” then when you get some behaviour that you find displeasing, blow your top…when she starts to rationalize with some logical tit-for-tat response reply with:

    “I thought you were different, disappointing”.

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  23. on April 12, 2011 at 6:52 pm Anonymous

    Gold!

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  24. on April 12, 2011 at 6:56 pm RedEmperor

    Golf

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  25. on April 12, 2011 at 6:59 pm RedEmperor

    Golf: Like game. Some are naturals but most have to learn it. After they’ve figured it out, most people can’t even tell you how they figured it out.

    All you need is a lot of practice. Charisma can be mimicked.

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  26. on April 12, 2011 at 7:03 pm Anonymous

    Yehah!

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  27. on April 12, 2011 at 7:04 pm Mazrim

    Screw lifts. If you can’t pull it off without height, you’re not doing it right.

    If you’re a short guy, you need to be Joe Pesci. The guy’s what, 2 feet tall? But he has the attitude and swagger of a 6’5″ dude.

    Look at his personal life. At one point a few years ago (in his 60’s) he was banging a model who was something like 25 years his junior (and about 6 inches taller).

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  28. on April 12, 2011 at 7:07 pm Default User

    Shortness is far less of a dating disability than most men imagine. A good attitude goes a long way. Shortness is obviously not a benefit, but should not be an excuse. Even a short man (5′ 5″) will be as tall or taller than 50 percent of all women. You could almost view it as a form of peacocking.

    When approaching a women, the smaller man can also stand much closer while not intimidating/crowding her. Compare that to how she might feel with some big lump looming over her. I suspect that many tall/large men make this mistake; stepping back a bit would allow her admire his 6 foot plus frame and let her relax enough to enjoy his game.

    Height (and heft) is far more useful in establishing social dominance over other men. No matter how confident or tough, it is harder for the smaller man to shut another up with just a glance. The confidence built by winning status battles with other men is probably worth more than the advantage gained with women.

    Height is a plus, but only if other things are in place. Of course, you can effect more change on your personality than your height, so it is still better to be born tall.

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  29. on April 12, 2011 at 7:10 pm eric

    Yeah, this post strains my bullshit detector. I’ve never seen a short guy score.

    On the topic of being an asshole online, that hasn’t worked for me so perhaps your friend could provide more details. For eample, when he says that he emphasized his pickiness, I’m not clear on how that works, because he has to contact the girls. So, you can say in your profile that you only date supermodels but if you then contact a girl, that’s telling her she qualifies.

    After I started reading this blog, I did a search on a dating site for women who mentioned food in their profiles and sent several this message:

    “I see that you love food. I mean, I *see* that you love food …maybe you should love food less and hanging out with me more”

    Didn’t get a single bite. Also tried substituting dancing and biking in place of hanging out.

    [Editor: That’s not uncaring asshole game, that’s just spiteful, caring assholery. The assholery must be leavened with charm. You failed to do that. But thanks for trolling.
    And maybe you should stop pursuing fat chicks? Just a thought.]

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  30. on April 12, 2011 at 7:12 pm The Dude

    How short are we talking? 5″7? 5″4?

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  31. on April 12, 2011 at 7:19 pm xsplat

    Ya, Joe Pesci is an interesting role model. Another is Danny Devito.

    Danny is especially interesting as he is also fat and ugly. You could call him repugnant. And yet I bet he could get any number of random dick suckings from young babes in bars.

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  32. on April 12, 2011 at 7:20 pm HR Lincoln

    Short men that clean up with women DO exist. Really.

    Of course, they’re about as common as good-looking, well built, down-to-earth, intelligent, sweet, highly sexual American women who have chosen to remain virgins until marriage.

    [Editor: While overcoming the shortness handicap is no easy task (who said learning and applying game was easy?), the number of non-famous short men who do well with women is an order of magnitude greater than the number of fat chicks who do well with men. And by “well”, I don’t mean just lying down to receive a sloppy pump and dump in her distended porcine hole by a drunk last call loser.]

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  33. on April 12, 2011 at 7:23 pm HR Lincoln

    Not really relevant to point out the woman-attracting prowess of a DeVito, Pesci, Cruise, etc.

    Fame trumps all. If DeVito were some unknown truck driver, he couldn’t make out in a cathouse with a fistfull of fifties.

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  34. on April 12, 2011 at 7:23 pm Tinderbox

    I suspect that regardless of their actual height men grow or shrink in women’s eyes according to the man’s grasp of game, i.e. his comfort level with himself and his approach to her and to life. After a few minutes of conversation a short man can seem larger than life, just as a tall underwear model will ultimately come across as weak if he has no social skill or ability to lead an interaction with a woman.

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  35. on April 12, 2011 at 7:30 pm Mazrim

    eric,

    I’ve seen it but not often. I’m relatively short myself at 5’8″. My dad is around 5’4″. For comparison, my stepmother is 5’11”, about an 8.5 in her prime (and has kept herself in top shape), and is 14 years younger than my dad (he was 41, she was 27 when they married, they met about 4 years before). They’ve been married for about 15 years now.

    I’ve always been in awe at his game. He was/is the type who can *anything* he wants. I know full well that as good as I am, I will never have his level of game.

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  36. on April 12, 2011 at 7:34 pm Paladin

    So true. I have no doubt that learning game has allowed me to sleep with many girls, including those who would have usually written me off because I’m 5’5” and said that “they want a tall, dark guy”.

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  37. on April 12, 2011 at 7:39 pm The Wolf

    To put this entire post into one sentence:

    It’s NOT what you say, its HOW you say it.

    When it comes to game, this will get you past any obstacles.

    Z

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  38. on April 12, 2011 at 8:00 pm Da_Truth_Hurts

    I give you a short ugly dude with a younger, hotter, taller woman (his wife):

    Status? Game? Who knows. I do know that she in’t war-pig like most Amerian wives.

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  39. on April 12, 2011 at 8:01 pm Reality Check

    “…Ask a girl what she likes in men, and she’ll rattle off some stupid list she read in Cosmo, and then she’ll go home to her bartender boyfriend while her phone is lighting up with calls from all those nice guys with good jobs who are politely asking to take her out on expensive dates.”

    OK – i want the straight dope on what i am about to ask from you and other intelligent members of the Chateau (man and woman alike):

    I understand that the power of game for an average man (beta or otherwise) can initially get himself attractive woman, such as for a date(s), a ‘bang’, or even a short-term relationship..

    BUT…

    will such an attractive woman with options *ultimately stay* with such a man, particularly LTR’s and/or, heaven forbid, a marriage, if the man so chooses and desires?

    OR…

    …will it ultimately be one STR after another for the average man with the exceptional woman, in spite of his ‘tight, sterling game’?

    *Again, no obfuscating or equivocating with your answers fellas (and ladies), since we all know how important social status and where one falls in the economic class pecking order is for nearly all American women (spoiled or otherwise) – especially a very attractive woman who could land a man that would give these things…

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  40. on April 12, 2011 at 8:03 pm Reality Check

    I give you a short ugly dude with a younger, hotter, taller woman (his wife):

    http://cache.dealbreaker.com/uploads/2011/01/dennis-kucinich-and-wife.jpg

    Kucinich is (or was) a Congressman.

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  41. on April 12, 2011 at 8:03 pm Da_Truth_Hurts

    And to add to this, I am not short (5’11”) but my hair has been thinning since I was 20.

    I shave my head and stay in shape, and have internalized game. I’m still pulling younger, hotter, tighter girls than guys with cool brah spikey cuts.

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  42. on April 12, 2011 at 8:04 pm Blahfingy

    “I’m relatively short myself at 5’8″.”

    Since when was 5’8″ considered short? That’s about the average male height.

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  43. on April 12, 2011 at 8:06 pm Da_Truth_Hurts

    True, he is a congressman. A very short and ugly one. With a hot, younger, taller wife. Status >*

    Many status indicators can be emulated via game. Will you be as good as a guy who is 6’2″ with game? No. But you can get really fucking good.

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  44. on April 12, 2011 at 8:07 pm Lara

    I don’t think there is any great advantage in a woman being tall. I’m 5’7″ and my dad would teasingly call me a giraffe. He liked petite women.

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  45. on April 12, 2011 at 8:11 pm greyghost

    I bet that is fun as hell doing what this guy is doing. I like it. I like how he moved into sales to get paid for his skill.

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  46. on April 12, 2011 at 8:12 pm aoefe

    @lara – “I’m 5’7″ ”

    Our host like em’ tall. I remember a post/comment where he said height makes it easier for a woman to wrap her legs around a back. (Why I remember that is beyond me…)

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  47. on April 12, 2011 at 8:14 pm MarriedMan

    Brief change of subject: I got asked to an event by two cute and flirtatious chicks who know that I am married. Zero chance I will sex either one of them even if they beg, because the last thing I need is another set of claws digging into me, but I REALLY want to go.

    Whenever I get in a fight with the wife, I storm out of the house, stay gone for hours, and don’t answer my phone. I have never planned ahead for this to happen before, but perhaps I should make it happen on the evening of the event.

    Any ideas for how to get into a big fight without it being obviously pre-planned? Or maybe I should use a different strategy?

    I’m sure some of you are tempted to respond with, “get a divorce”. Excellent advice, but I’m looking for ideas that have *not* already occurred to me.

    Thanks!

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  48. on April 12, 2011 at 8:18 pm Stinsonian

    Colt,
    Do you know of a good place to buy lifts? I’m just a smidge under 5’10” (I just realized last night I’m not 5’10.5″ [a huge blow to the ego]) and I want to be about 6′. Also, can people tell your wearing the lifts? I want to use the insoles.

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  49. on April 12, 2011 at 8:18 pm quetal

    Tailor Your Approach to Your Audience: Data collected by Virtual Dating Assistants revealed that while women of all ages respond well to humor, women in their early 30s and above responded well to longer, more thoughtful emails that expressed genuine interest. Women in their 20s rejected these more serious emails, preferring even some slight cockiness – or what some dating coaches call the “Cocky & Funny” approach. In fact, one particular email that is long (over 150 words), expresses interest, draws commonalities (it’s always customized), demonstrates humor as well as a sense of ambition and adventure received a 9.7% response rate from women in their 20s, a 20.5% response rate from 30-somethings, and a 50.3% from women 40 and above. This email, according to Scott, was sent to over a thousand women of different ages, so it’s pretty clear, based on these numbers alone, that a one-size-fits-all approach to online dating is a bad one

    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/data-driven-online-dating-tips-for-execs-2011-4#ixzz1JMFFjjVy

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  50. on April 12, 2011 at 8:18 pm Mazrim

    Blahfingy,

    The latest research I’ve seen says that the average height for white men in the US is around 5’11”, so I’m on the lower end of the scale. Not truly short, but usually the shortest guy in whatever group I’m with.

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  51. on April 12, 2011 at 8:20 pm Real dreamer

    True, mainly because a guy that exhibits such confidence gives off signals that he is or will be successful in society, which is all that 463 checklist is about.

    @ Lara
    Ah, I’m the same height, too. It never caused me many issues, though. But I’ve always thought petite girls were sooo cute and feminine in a way that surpasses the whole thin, leggy model standard.

    For different reasons, tall girls and tiny girls get lotsa attention.

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  52. on April 12, 2011 at 8:24 pm Bill Brasky

    “Don’t make the mistake of projecting your masculine ideas of beauty on to a woman.”
    -joseph went south

    God, I wish I had figured this out at a young age.

    I should have worried less about acne and more about confidence. I blame my retarded female relatives always telling me how I’m “cute”, as if that’s an advantage for a heterosexual man. And my dad for being fucking clueless about women.

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  53. on April 12, 2011 at 8:25 pm Michel

    If you are short, do not buy lifts.

    Fucking waste of money.

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  54. on April 12, 2011 at 8:27 pm Lara

    It hasn’t caused me many issues either and there are a lot of women taller than I am. I also find petite girls cute and feminine in a way I probably never was.

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  55. on April 12, 2011 at 8:28 pm Default User

    @Blahfingy

    Since when was 5’8″ considered short? That’s about the average male height.
    Average height for a US man (White or Black) is 5’10” with a standard deviation of around 2.5 inches. So I suppose you could consider 5’8″ short (at the very least shorter than about 65 percent of other men).

    The shorter averages probably include Mexicans and Asians (although later generations of Asians may be catching up).

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  56. on April 12, 2011 at 8:31 pm Laughing Shadow

    I’m 5’8″ and never cared. I prefer women shorter than me, and plenty are. Making the taller ones look at you with that “huh. I usually wouldn’t think of it but…” look is always a good indication that you did something right. You know the same routine will work like gold with the perky little firecrackers you really want.

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  57. on April 12, 2011 at 8:33 pm Insight

    OT – which is the better neg for a women with long hair –

    “Great wig – where did you get it?” or

    “Great hair – is it a wig?”

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  58. on April 12, 2011 at 8:38 pm Insight

    Turbo Hamster for the win. Best video clip posted here ever.

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  59. on April 12, 2011 at 8:42 pm BestOutfitForMen

    I used to be a disbeliever. But only until last year when I became a friend of “the legend”. The guy is about 5´6, skinny, ugly as hell and never has a dime in his pockets. Still he manages to get different pussy every weekend. His girls range from 6s to 8s, and up to now he has 3 children with 3 different girls and those 3 girls think he is the best catch ever, when in reality this man is a manace to society.

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  60. on April 12, 2011 at 8:46 pm Fubsy

    Dudley Moore, aka “The Sex Thimble” comes to mind. Only 5’2, he had a list of conquests ANY man would have been proud of, and some before he became world-famous in 1979.

    Brogan Lane (21 February 1988 – December 1991) (divorced)
    Tuesday Weld (20 September 1975 – 1980) (divorced) 1 child
    Suzy Kendall (15 June 1968 – September 1972) (divorced)

    He also dated 6′ tall Susan Anton back in the 80’s

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  61. on April 12, 2011 at 8:52 pm Paul

    Insight:

    Former

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  62. on April 12, 2011 at 8:53 pm Fubsy

    Stinsonian, don’t measure yourself at night, do it in the morning…we shrink 1/2 to 3/4 of an inch during the day. IN HEIGHT, THAT IS!

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  63. on April 12, 2011 at 8:59 pm Tony T

    Better link:

    [Editor: Yeah, hot stuff. She looks like she’d give a great old-fashioned.]

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  64. on April 12, 2011 at 9:02 pm yeahokcool

    game is 100% real. i’m not short (5’11”), but i have plenty of anecdotal evidence that absence of game is a almost immediate tingle-killer.

    naturally, i am a charming asshole. i have always been one since i was a little boy. throughout my younger years, all authority figures (parents, teachers, etc.) loved me even though i would purposefully misbehave, disrupt class, etc. all the time. why? well, i’m not exactly sure, but i’ve always had a cheeky grin on my face.

    however, i fell hard for a girl in high school and dated her through college and graduate school. throughout this entire period, i still knew that i could very easily woo women. even though i never cheated on her – despite opportunity – i obviously still liked the thrill of holding court and having women fawn over me. it never occurred to me that this attraction was because i acted like i had nothing to lose (i didn’t), so i played as recklessly i was wanted with women. i was callous, arrogant, and larger-than-life. they loved it. as i now know, THIS is why they were largely attracted to me.

    my young love eventually split up with me not too long ago (1.5 years). neither of us wanted it (you can’t disbelieve me on this point, but i don’t give a shit), but it was inevitable. i was devastated, but i found myself able to benefit from the previous good will that i had built-up.

    right off the bat, i had sex with the hottest girl at my law school (yeah, i know that’s like being the dwarf amongst midgets, or some other hilarious pun, but this chick is a legit 8.5 and stacked). i guess i wasn’t that surprised because my long-time-girl is very good-looking as well; i just assumed that i deserved hot chicks, tbh. this law chick and i hooked-up for about a month, but i started to develop very serious feelings for her almost immediately after we first had sex. she largely ignored all of my obvious over-interest until one weekend when i had to leave for a trip. after going out clubbing, i totally blew off this girl that i was on the trip with to go talk to law chick. i drunkenly told law chick how PROFOUNDLY i missed her and that i couldn’t wait to see her. that i couldn’t stop thinking about her. i think i even told her that i blew off this other girl to come talk to her (which, again, was true). we got together the next day and i was just as sappy and lovey-dovey as a dude can be. i mean, i laid it on thick (e.g., did you miss me???; i can’t wait to see yo again soon!). i suppose it wouldn’t be any surprise that the VERY NEXT DAY she called me and said “we have to talk.” she proceeded to tell me how she hooked-up with her “friend” that night after she left my house and wanted to know how i felt about it. she already knew, because i had jealously told her that i didn’t want to hook-up with her if she was hooking-up with someone else (again, a move i now know to be a mistake), that it would be a deal-breaker for me. maybe she was testing me to see what i am made of, but regardless i did end whatever the fling was. still, it just added to my devastation (clear trend developing here).

    fast-forward 1 month later. i run into a girl with whom i had previously flirted whilst out at the bar, while i was with my ex. i am not prone to exaggeration (in fact, i am naturally suspicious of everyone, so i go out of my way to be scrupulously honest, probably to a fault), this girl is a 9.0 black chick. seriously, i have never received more compliments from friends, family, random strangers, etc. than when photos of she and i showed-up on fb. everyone on earth stared at us when we went anywhere. she is, admittedly, the most boring person i have ever met (med student), but i somehow (ha!) was able to look over all that. on our previous encounters out at the bar – while in a relationship – i did the same sort of charming, assholish things i am famous for. when we met at the time relevant to all this, she knew i had been in a relationship, but didn’t know my ex and i were “exes” (i’m sure that helped my cause). at this point, i still was sorta ambivalent about her because i couldn’t get long-time or law-chick out of head. she dug it. i didn’t notice. later, my friend told me “dude! that chick was totally diggin’ you.” i had a function coming up, so i figured i’d invite her to it. she immediately said yes and we agreed to hang out beforehand. date 1, i invited her to my place where i cooked dinner and we drank wine and talked about our life goals. pretty boring, but she seemed into it. i tried to get her to stay the night, but she said she was afraid i wouldn’t call her tomorrow if she made it that easy. like 2-3 days after, we went and had drinks. we had a magnetic night filled with next to no conversation but tons of touching and making out. before midnight, we HAD to go back to my place. we were drunk, but we undressed, got into my bed, and got to business. i remember it like it was yesterday because it is so painful. she stopped for a second, looked me in the face and she said: “wow, you’re really a player aren’t you? i bet you do this to all the girls.” i searched my brain. the truth was, i hadn’t. i had a serious girlfriend for most of sexual life and had only just started seeing other girls. so, what did i say? a very sincere “no, i’m really a very nice guy!” she laughed and said she didn’t believe me. of course, because i was an uneducated idiot, i persisted that “no! really! i’ve barely done this!” her smile disappeared. the sex was terrible. i am laughing now as i type this because it was such a fucking bone-headed thing to do. thankfully, she didn’t leave my house right at that moment. again, as you won’t be surprised to hear, the “relationship” ended immediately after the aforementioned function that she had already agreed to attend.

    i was stunned in all this. what was i doing wrong? clearly hot women want to be around me, i thought, but they seem to find long-term contact with me to be anathema. (to my credit, these flings came immediately on the heels of a break-up with the “love of my life”; i was emotionally vulnerable, so it wasn’t my normal approach to most aspects of my life).

    by chance, a few weeks after all this, i was reading a news aggregate and some commenter posted the article that she wrote about making a point to smile at all the girls that you come across in a day as they are all missed opportunities otherwise. i was intrigued, so i read the entire archive over the course of the next week or so. i realized that this is the sort of stuff my dad and grandfather told me about when i was younger, but i didn’t have any reason to apply a lot of it because i really was in a very healthy relationship for all those years.

    anyway, i started to apply the principles laid-out on this blog. not only did it immediately reverse the unwanted effect that i was having on women, but, MORE IMPORTANTLY, it made me reframe my whole outlook on women, relationships, life, and all that shit. i’m young, in good health, good-looking, and in a good (albeit boring) profession. why on earth would i possibly trade away all my sexual capital for any one of these girls? sure, i loved my ex, but i strongly suspect that i would tremendously regret it if i had not had these experiences that i currently have and hope to continue having for the foreseeable future.

    wow, that was such a long blurb. my point is. game is real. sure, i may not be short, but lack of game caused me to immediately POISON AND KILL any attraction that hot women had for me. if i have one piece of advice to all you studs out there, it is that you shouldn’t dogmatically apply any of these rules. i did that some, but got negative feedback. you’ve got to tailor everything to your personal style, which means going out there and trying everything, which means you gotta approach a lot of girls. furthermore, for all natural alphas, please be careful about over-gaming. i also found out pretty quickly that i’ve already got most of the tools of the trade at my disposal… i just needed to learn some of the nuances (1,000 props). i suspect that is the case for many of you as well.

    best of luck out there.

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  65. on April 12, 2011 at 9:05 pm Jebus

    Is there any scientific proof that “game” works?

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  66. on April 12, 2011 at 9:08 pm Jebus

    Can anybody cite actual, peer-reviewed scientific studies from PubMed, Elsevier etc. showing that this “game” stuff is legit? Otherwise, I’m still pretty skeptical.

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  67. on April 12, 2011 at 9:08 pm Stinsonian

    Fubsy,
    Thanks for the advice! I didn’t know that. I even asked my friends how tall they thought I was and I got everything from 5’10-6’0. And I asked them before I told them about my new “measurement.” I was pretty damned confused and depressed by that measurement. I think you made my day!

    Still…I do want the insoles. I figure if there’s an easy enhancement why the hell not do it?

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  68. on April 12, 2011 at 9:09 pm College Grad

    @eric

    I was never naturally an asshole so I had to figure out what that meant as well. I find that you MUST mix in a sense of humor with it all. Someone thats an asshole but seems to be laughing along the way and making others laugh as well will rarely if ever be considered spiteful or bittter. That’s the easiest way for me at least. See Daniel Tosh or Tucker Max.

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  69. on April 12, 2011 at 9:14 pm The Bastard

    Asshole game is a precision surgical tool, not a blunt force club. Frame your asshole negs with a margin of plausible deniability, not for your own Beta backpedal but to give the hamster room to run. Sun Tzu says to always give an enemy room to retreat, for a completely surrounded army has no choice but to fight to the death. Direct insults like the wig & weight leave no room for banter and will often earn you a drink the face.

    “There’s nothing like a great meal, but what’s your favourite way of buring off those calories afterward ?”

    “Great hair, you should cut some off & make a wig for some poor cancer kid.”

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  70. on April 12, 2011 at 9:21 pm SV Warrior

    I let my height hold me back all through college. Almost no dates. I was pudgy too. Then in a one year period I lost 50 pounds and changed the way I dressed and acted. Eventually I just approached any girl who would seem interesting (to me). Tall or short. I figured if they disqualified me because of height it was their loss.

    I won some and lost some but over time I mostly won. One girl told me that she never thought of me as short (I am 5’7″). A friend of my sister once told her that she didn’t date anyone shorter than her. Then she wondered why I never asked her out. She was 5’9″ so I had honored her statement about shorter men. Later when my sister told her why I never asked her out she said, “In his case I would have made an exception.”

    I was at the ballgame last Sunday. Two younger women sat down in the seats next to me. I started some low key friendly conversation with the one nearest to me. When both girls left to get some food, I thought I had scared them off. When they came back the other gal (HB7-8) told her friend that she wanted to sit next to me. Within several minutes she was tapping my thigh (KINO) as we laughed and joked. Of course she also mentioned that she was married about ten times. I just ignored the comment. Kept kidding with her. Hey, I am happily married. This was just game for its own sake.

    She asked me if I was going to be back at any future games. I said that I didn’t know but it was all I could do not to ask for her number or email.

    When she left she made a big point of touching me again and saying good-bye and that she hoped to see me again.

    Game is game. I am short and I was her senior by a good 20-30 years (best guess) but she didn’t care. I didn’t care either. Her friend never engaged though and just peered at her iphone the whole time.

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  71. on April 12, 2011 at 9:23 pm College Grad

    “They don’t know what they want. They just react to men who turn them on, but there’s no way you can get them to describe what it is about those men that makes them stand out. Ask a girl what she likes in men, and she’ll rattle off some stupid list she read in Cosmo, and then she’ll go home to her bartender boyfriend while her phone is lighting up with calls from all those nice guys with good jobs who are politely asking to take her out on expensive dates.”

    Truer words about women have never been spoken. I would also like to add that I’m a shorter guy (5’8″) and have success with attractive women. Admittedly though, I’m above average in looks. If you are like me, read the post on gaming in smaller groups. VERY HELPFUL.

    I do have one question though: Eye contact… it seems like piercing eye contact betrays aloof and indifference in place of attentiveness. When I’m in the field I kinda just mix it up but I’m curious as to how that works out?

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  72. on April 12, 2011 at 9:29 pm blert

    If you’re new to game and you want a low pressure way to work on your approaches…

    Go shopping at Target, or whatnot, pushing a noisy cart. One that can be heard quite a ways. ( The thumping seems to help.)

    Such stores are often larded with young babes — so young this is their first job.

    They are trained to approach customers — even dirty old men — with the query: “Can I help you find what you want?” or the equally common:”What are you looking for, can I help you?”

    You can comeback with an endless series of wit:

    Yes, your phone number/ digits…

    You.

    When do you get off?

    I bet you say that to all the guys.

    ——

    She’ll likely have electronics clipped to her hips…

    I see that your hips are equipped.

    I see that you’re packing plenty.

    ——

    And just practice, practice, practice.

    The fact that you’re one-on-one and under zero pressure gives you plenty of un-neediness.

    Since the retail management has instilled a drive to keep the customer satisfied you are in a weird emotional zone where the young gal is pre-disposed to please.

    It’s a frame that’s hard to shake with a glib operator.

    Further, a little rejection of the stores wares may permit one to game two gals as her trainer comes to the ‘rescue.’

    ——–

    Think of the whole gambit as game-in-a-cage.

    Amuse yourself.

    Build game-tone.

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  73. on April 12, 2011 at 9:53 pm Trev

    In my darkest hour in my mid-20s I pondered suicide because of my height. 5’7. Life is too short to worry about being short.

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  74. on April 12, 2011 at 9:56 pm Ben Runkle

    c.e. Jake-

    if a girl tells me we just met, or something similar, I always flip the script on them and say “I know, and you’re already this handsy” variations will work, but the main point is to paint her as the one trying to get into your pants, the aggressor, the one coming on to you, not the other way around. I like to follow up said statement with the world’s most cocky smirk.

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  75. on April 12, 2011 at 10:13 pm Nice Young Ladies

    Awesome post for me, I make good money, I DJ in popular clubs (hobby), and am fairly conversationally agile but I’m still 5’7, and I do appear very “safe” (helps in business and dealing with the law, not so much with ladies)

    Unfortunately a streak of dumb luck cursed me with the insight that the 9’s are not beyond my reach. Cursed with the knowledge I’m not short or ugly enough for it to be just a dream.

    But currently I remain frustratingly situated in 6/7sville and I’m over it. No LTR with a 7. Not interested. More interested in my right hand.

    The online checklist insight was fresh for me, I self taught a lot of basics back on myspace – learning the more girls I had going and the less attention paid to each one, the more they became interested. I have never had much luck on actual dating sites though – where my height (and intention, obviously) was stated.

    I have eschewed Facebook on the advice here.

    It’s true. Air tight game. Lifts? please. A couple of extra inches won’t help if you’re still a chumpish goober. Mr. 5’10 has NO excuse, improve thy game.

    Lifts are like Facebook, an excuse to think you’re doing something, making progress.

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  76. on April 12, 2011 at 10:28 pm Jack

    Lara, my favorite girls are 5’6 to 5’9. Tastes vary i guess.

    I’m in law school, in my third year, and live on a floor with a first year who’s about 5’7 but seems popular and confident. last weekend he brought back a fellow first year, a cute 7 or so who I’ve talked with a little bit. She’s probably like his height. I am a little jealous.

    And now I can’t even try to hook up with her myself cause that’s sloppy seconds. Ok well maybe I don’t care I guess.

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  77. on April 12, 2011 at 10:31 pm itsme

    i dig tall chicks. given the choice between a petite girl and a tall one, all else (looks, body proportions, etc.) being equal, i target the tall one first. even if (especially if) she’s taller than me.

    there’s this model that i’ve seen around a few times walking her ridiculously tiny dog. face-wise, she’s an 8 or 8.5, but she’s got a great body (not too skinny), and she is easily – i mean easily – 6’8″. i’m 5’11”. her boobs are at mouth height. mouth height!!

    so today she’s walking by with her dog (how the fuck is she not stepping on it, no way she could see the thing from up there), and i notice she’s limping.

    me: you’re limping
    her: yes, i twisted my ankle
    me: what’d you do, step on a car?

    game, set, match.

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  78. on April 12, 2011 at 10:44 pm Colt

    Stinsonian,

    Insoles – try http://www.myliftkits.com/ . Great price/value.

    Elevator shoes aka lifts – Just google them and you’ll find many companies that make these kind of shoes. I live in Toronto and I bought shoes made by this company – http://www.walktallshoes.com/ – in-store (I don’t know how anybody could mail-order a pair of shoes, weird specialty shoes at that, without trying them on first).

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  79. on April 12, 2011 at 10:55 pm Mack

    I know two guys. One is 5’7″, one is 5’8″. Both are light years ahead of any other guy I know when it comes to pulling quality ass.

    Why? Neither one is much above average looking (I’ve had women say this to me), but the key is, neither one gives a shit. See a good looking woman? Chat her up. Doesn’t pan out, move to the next one.

    One might thinks it’s the number of approaches that makes the difference (probably does), but it’s the attitude that is key.

    Mack

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  80. on April 12, 2011 at 10:57 pm xsplat

    Blahfingy

    “I’m relatively short myself at 5’8″.”

    Since when was 5’8″ considered short? That’s about the average male height.

    Average where? I’m about that, and in my home country of Canada when I grew up most guys were taller. This is a dating disadvantage, and one reason it’s far easier to date where the men are shorter.

    Sadly each new generation in SE Asia seems go be adding an inch or two. It’s getting to be that I’m short even here. And I’m guessing the younger broods continue to gain height in my homeland.

    Let’s just hope they don’t gain smart.

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  81. on April 12, 2011 at 11:01 pm epiclolz

    is that a title homage to the Sneaker Pimps?

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  82. on April 12, 2011 at 11:04 pm cheshirecat

    Danny is especially interesting as he is also fat and ugly. You could call him repugnant. And yet I bet he could get any number of random dick suckings from young babes in bars.

    I doubt it…you HAVE seen his wife, haven’t you?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhea_Perlman

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  83. on April 12, 2011 at 11:06 pm n/a

    I feel for the short. Fat can starve; bald can shave; the poor man can get a loan; but the short have an uphill climb when it comes to fine women.

    There is nothing rarer or better than long perfect legs on a female: it’s the only thing that can still stop me on the street. There are so many sweet racks and even serviceable asses, but one almost never sees a soft-bellied and brilliantly tapered calf.

    That said. A short guy who craves truly feminine creatures can head to Japan and win. Don’t confine yourself to Tokyo. Long legs, however, are not on tap.

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  84. on April 12, 2011 at 11:16 pm Rey

    What do you guys think of elevator shoes (http://www.tallmenshoes.com/) to increase attractivness for us shorter men. I’m about 5’6, and I’ve done good enough in the field b/c I there are usually enough women 5’6 or under for me to run game on, however, I’d like to try my hand and the taller chicks and I’d be more confident approaching taller women if I too was taller. So I’ve looked into purchasing elevator shoes to give me and 2 to 5 inch boost. Imagine the look on the girl’s face when she invites me back to her place and I take off my shoes to reveal I’m actually 5 inches shorter, haha!.

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  85. on April 12, 2011 at 11:23 pm Anonymous

    Remember, if there are short men, there are shorter women out there. Snooki on Jersey Shore is only 4’9″. When you’re 6’0″ and she’s shorter than most grade schoolers, it can be discouraging in more ways than (despite the relative tightness enhancing factor) so don’t think all the giants out there are hogging up six-pack harems of all the petities around.

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  86. on April 12, 2011 at 11:32 pm DirkJohanson

    The hamster can also be spun to get lesbians to fuck you. Trust me on this one.

    One of them – the hottest of them, a 5′, 98″, 29 YO Hungarian blonde, with a perfect-sized space between her thighs and a fresh boob job – told me she considered me to not be a guy but to actually be a fellow girl. On our first date, I got nothing. Two months later, she invited me to visit her in Miami, asked me to take a nap with her shortly after her arrival, but she saw to it that we did very little sleeping. That night, we went out to a swingers club, and ended up at a house where my load ended up on two other cute chicks while the “lesbian” egged me on, though the highlight of the night was when one of them, age 21 (I was 41 at the time), asked permission of my girl to suck my cock. My girl is now “married” to a huge bull dyke, who blew up my phone one day when she found an old email of mine and thereby found out my girl had lied to her about never dating guys before.

    I also was once with a lesbian couple at a swingers party. We went from cocktails at the bar downstairs to naked in a bed in less than 10 minutes flat.

    I also once had a cute, petite, early 30s FFB that was a CNA, taking care of old people in nursing homes and such. After days of him pleading, she once let an 86YO guy that was drooling himself in his nursing home bed suck her tits free of charge – and she liked it!

    And a friend of mine, just a regular guy, fucked an A-list actress when they were in rehab together.

    Maxim #463 is right. There are few, if any, girls truly beyond reach. And there are far better PUAs than me. If I can pull it off once in a while, just about anyone can.

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  87. on April 12, 2011 at 11:42 pm DirkJohanson

    @ Rey,

    I usually wear height-enhancing shoes. One pair is 4 1/2 inches boost. There is a banner linking to one store that sells them at the bottom of my site.

    Chicks rarely figure it out. Bear in mind that the heels most chicks wear are at least 4″, sometimes 8″, so if they are wearing 6″ heels and you are wearing 4 1/2, you actually get relatively taller without shoes.

    I am careful to calibrate. I generally go out only with very petite girls, anyway, so around them, I don’t usually wear the higher ones. Also, if I think the girl is going to be wearing sneakers (most of which for girls have built-in heels, BTW), I don’t wear as high a shoe so I don’t get relatively shorter when we are both without shoes.

    I generally save the higher ones for the clubs, and for the first time I meet a chick so there can be the most advantage. Also, I have a policy of making chicks get totally nude in order to enter my bedroom, and almost all hop right onto the bed after the strip, so its not like I am suddenly standing next to them when we are both barefoot. I also often ask chicks to take off their shoes in my house, but I keep mine on, and they don’t seem to notice the disparate treatment.

    The shoes are also helpful in business and at work.

    Anyway, just don’t let the word get out too much. The guy who owns one of these stores told me that one of his customers is 6’3″ before the height-enhancing shoes. Asshole I say, though I guess if I was going head-to head against MJ trying to get ass, I would do the same.

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  88. on April 12, 2011 at 11:47 pm DirkJohanson

    @ Chesirecat

    Rhea Pearlman is no spring chicken, and I never thought she looked good, but bear in mind that petite girls are not photogenic, because a lot of what makes them cute is being small and having tiny features and that doesn’t translate in photos. I am almost always pleasantly surprised when I give a petite girl that doesn’t look so hot online a chance and meet her, and the photos of the cute petite girls I know almost always disappoint.

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  89. on April 12, 2011 at 11:49 pm old guy

    “a captivating predator”

    NICE.

    Very nice.

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  90. on April 12, 2011 at 11:55 pm Jonathan Manor

    Really awesome post! I’m not a short guy so the whole time I was wondering why this post may seem useful to me. I definitely do have a handicap against myself, I’m a person of ethnicity, which is kind of wishy washy honestly. Especially with Twilight out and brown people coming out of their caves, I’ve definitely got a hand up on that. Also, I do believe that women who say what they want in a guy are only dodging what they really want in a guy or the fact that they don’t know what they want until it’s actually standing right up in front of them.

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  91. on April 13, 2011 at 12:14 am old guy

    @HR Lincoln

    Not really relevant to point out the woman-attracting prowess of a DeVito, Pesci, Cruise, etc.

    Fame trumps all. If DeVito were some unknown truck driver, he couldn’t make out in a cathouse with a fistfull of fifties.”

    WRONG. Danny was makin’ a movie in my ‘hood a few years ago. We had a chat between scenes in a local caffe, trust me, this guy don’t need bein’ a celeb
    to get laid. He’s a celeb BECAUSE of his ‘tude.

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  92. on April 13, 2011 at 12:15 am Dan

    I am average height but all the stories about short and ugly dudes getting hella pussy is very motivating.

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  93. on April 13, 2011 at 12:16 am Rum

    A best friend of mind in high-school was 6′-4″, looked like Elvis, had rich parents, and posessed cosmically potent, natural, alpha-game. Just by being born that way.
    So he got all of the hotties he wanted, more or less. (Maybe I will someday tell the stories) Nowadays he is shackled by iron ankle locks to a 250 pound lard-pile WHO CUT HER HAIR SHORT!!!.
    How did this happen? Seriously.
    Here is my take on it. It was always so easy for him he never had to nurture a ruthless killer side to his persona.

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  94. on April 13, 2011 at 12:22 am julian

    wearing lifts in my opinion is mega-lame and erodes the very thing you should be building when you have any handicap in the dating market; inner game.

    that said, being short sucks, but so does being anything less than ideal when it comes to anything. you can whine about money, baldness, age, lack of wit, charm, education, location, point is that an alpha makes the most out of any situation. napoleon was 5 ft tall and he conquered europe and you guys are talking about lifts ? lol. bruce less was 5’7 and you considered suicide ? fuck man, you dont need more height you need some self esteem.

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  95. on April 13, 2011 at 12:26 am Dan

    @Jebus

    You’ve got to be fucking kiddin’ me. I don’t even know where to begin.

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  96. on April 13, 2011 at 12:30 am Tim

    Also, I have a policy of making chicks get totally nude in order to enter my bedroom, and almost all hop right onto the bed after the strip…

    I’m going to have to adopt that policy.

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  97. on April 13, 2011 at 12:32 am Dan

    @Rum

    I suspect naturals are more likely to fall into beta behavior later in life than our people who had to learn it. They were never conscious of why their behavior worked and so may be unable to realize it when they slip into beta behavior.

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  98. on April 13, 2011 at 12:33 am D

    About height, ——— it should be noted that Doug McClure, the late actor, who was a tight friend of Audie Murphy, said “Audie got laid more in Hollywood than Errol Flynn.”

    And McClure was in a position to observe and know.

    Flynn was well over six feet, while Murphy was well under six feet.

    Now I have absolutely no idea whether Murphy had “game,” all I do know is that he had a chest full of medals for killing over hundreds of Germans.

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  99. on April 13, 2011 at 12:35 am Tim

    Gents, the height thing may not be what you think it is. I’m 6’3 and a half but I’m only about 175lbs which is on the thin side. I’ve got the body of Mystery but I’m no PUA. I’m not rolling in pussy just because I’m tall. Height may only be an advantage is you are already one charming motherfucker.

    Optimum height is probably 5’10 or 6′, and not more than 190lbs.

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  100. on April 13, 2011 at 12:36 am xsplat

    Chechirecat, yes, I’ve seen Devitos wife.

    And that means that his fame and charisma hold no mojo?

    You have female “logic”.

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  101. on April 13, 2011 at 12:42 am Tim

    I have to concur with n/a. my buddy is 5’9 and he moved to korea where he scores all da time.

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  102. on April 13, 2011 at 12:45 am aoefe

    I checked out the link for elevator shoes – too cool! Honestly I’ve never thought of fake height for men. We women have it so easy! I’ve dated one man my height and one an inch shorter, I’m 5’5″ . I wished they would have worn those shoes because I didn’t wear heels when I dated them and I love a four inch heel. Women like to feel smaller than their guy, it’s instinctual likely, makes us feel protected. They both claimed they wouldn’t mind me wearing heels, but I didn’t get the sense it was true. They both lied about their height for one thing.

    A great personality and confidence is going to overcome a lot of the height barrier. Just don’t have the typical small guy syndrome – little body big mouth. Compensation is evident with those types – not attractive.

    Do workout, a short, scrawny guy is not going to have the same effect on women as the guy who is lean but buff. Don’t be too fancy in your clothes either. It makes small guys look like dandies. Put away the white sunglasses too while you’re at it. Go bald if you have the head for it. Most women dig bald men. Get your clothes fitted – i.e hem those pants. Don’t wear a big jacket thinking it makes you look big – you look like you’re swimming. Invest in a tailor if you have to. Some short men have long torsos and short legs, make sure you find balance in your clothes. Proportion is everything for men and women.

    Kk enough of the fashion tips by aoefe. mout (*wink at ya Firepower).

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  103. on April 13, 2011 at 12:46 am ...

    I would never like a short guy…unless it was Joe Rogen!
    😛

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  104. on April 13, 2011 at 12:59 am Rum

    Really short, light-weight girls who don’t get dizzy have their uses.
    Look up “Airplane Fuck”

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  105. on April 13, 2011 at 1:00 am aoefe

    @Xsplat – “You have female “logic””

    Hey them’s fighten’ words! We’ve worked very hard to prove we don’t have any and you go and blow it by announcing we do?

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  106. on April 13, 2011 at 1:22 am Rey

    @aoefe
    I hear what your saying, I felt sort of insecure when my previous gf wore heels, even though it put her right at my height, not taller, I liked it when I was the noticeably taller person.
    So my question is that as the girl you wouldn’t be turned off when a guy takes off his shoes to reveal his shorter than you thought and was trying the compensate with elevator shoes? It is after all similar to what a women does with makeup and heels, but then again what I hear is that covering up imperfections are supposedly only female traits and a turnoff in men.

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  107. on April 13, 2011 at 2:08 am Ronin

    @ Mack

    “See a good looking woman? Chat her up. Doesn’t pan out, move to the next one.”

    I fondly recalled a maxim from somewhere stating that a man should hit on every woman who excite him. Make life uncomfortable for them not himself.

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  108. on April 13, 2011 at 2:24 am walawala

    @eric

    After I started reading this blog, I did a search on a dating site for women who mentioned food in their profiles and sent several this message:

    “I see that you love food. I mean, I *see* that you love food …maybe you should love food less and hanging out with me more”

    Didn’t get a single bite. Also tried substituting dancing and biking in place of hanging out.

    [Editor: That’s not uncaring asshole game, that’s just spiteful, caring assholery. The assholery must be leavened with charm. You failed to do that.

    This struck me.

    There seems to be a lot of confusion among newbies about the difference between asshole game….and being an asshole.

    Insulting a fat chick is cruel….by telling her she loves food…is just being an asshole.

    Negging a hot slim girl at a buffet by saying “Save some for me….” and done with a smile….is asshole game.

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  109. on April 13, 2011 at 2:59 am Adrian

    “Yeah, this post strains my bullshit detector. I’ve never seen a short guy score.”

    You must not go out that often. I’m waiting in line at a night club and I see 3 slim, attractive girls in their early twenties giggling and groping this short little turd that must have been 5’2-5’3 MAX. The sparks in their eyes could have lit a fucking cigarette, and he didn’t even flinch when they were touching him. Nope, he didn’t give a single fuck. He had the confidence of a 6 foot 4 four bodybuilder and it showed.

    I later saw him with 2 or 3 additional girls at his private table, girls were all over him and he didn’t even give a shit. HE was being sought after, not THEM.

    It’s not about looks, it’s about social status, and game actually works. The hardest part is having the courage to learn and apply it, which most men don’t (myself included).

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  110. on April 13, 2011 at 3:04 am Original JB

    Funny you should bring this up. I was in a check out line at Safeway last night. The couple in front of me was some cocky swarthy type, about 5-6 or 5-7 with his white 5-11 or 6-0 very obedient acting girlfriend. I was kinda thinking the same thing as I observed them – Game Uber Alles!

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  111. on April 13, 2011 at 3:12 am Original JB

    I guarantee you that women who put certain “Looking For” characteristics in their online profile don’t adhere to them. 21 year olds who say they want a guy 21-26 are contacting men in the 40s with the right profile, etc. It all means nothing. They do not apriori know what they want.

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  112. on April 13, 2011 at 3:50 am Mr. C

    Formula One racing president and CEO Bernie Ecclestone with his wife Slavica.

    [img]http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/10/12/article-1076718-021386A1000005DC-929_468x688.jpg[/img]

    and perhaps the oddest match of the decade.

    Salman Rusdie and his then wife Padma.

    [img]http://www.topnews.in/light/files/Salman-Rushdie-Padma-Lakshmi.jpg[/img]

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  113. on April 13, 2011 at 4:37 am Phil T

    Dr. Jonas Venture.

    That’s short.

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  114. on April 13, 2011 at 4:49 am Shoterthenfriendsguy

    “When approaching a women, the smaller man can also stand much closer while not intimidating/crowding her. Compare that to how she might feel with some big lump looming over her. I suspect that many tall/large men make this mistake; stepping back a bit would allow her admire his 6 foot plus frame and let her relax enough to enjoy his game.” – DefaultUser –

    So true. I’m the short guy among my friends but I’m always closest to girls and I’ve never seen them back away from me while taller friends/random people I see get too close and end up making her feel uncomfy.

    On a side note, If you’re a short guy never stand on your toes for her!

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  115. on April 13, 2011 at 4:59 am Cadnerd

    @Rey

    5’7″ evening/5’8″ morning. Never made much diff for me, I don’t discriminate and make myself available to ladies of any height.

    For most chick, it is contextual. When out, they like their “guy” to be taller, but in private settings, it does not matter much. It’s a social thing.

    But game trumps all. Had a friend who was 5’4″. But he had 10 chicks on each of his fingers. It was so depressing to other faculty members, seeing him stride through corridors always being followed by an entourage of women (faculty staff and students, small or tall), that they decided to give him a job of a director of the faculty hospital (at other location) just to get a rid of him, whether they thought it was embarrassing for the faculty or they felt he scooped all the poon, leaving them nothing. Best gamer I’ve ever seen.

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  116. on April 13, 2011 at 5:16 am Cadnerd

    aoefe, the “logic” was an euphemism. The quotes should have clued you in.

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  117. on April 13, 2011 at 7:13 am DB

    At 5’6″ I have always had success with women, especially as I have gotten older, in better shape, and learned game. In high school, even just using my natural skills (I wish I knew about game them), my taller friends and relatives would be shocked at the girls I would date, because they, taller, were settling for fat chicks. Back then, I did lack some confidence because of my height and didn’t know about shit tests, so I didn’t know how to respond to female comments about my height as well as I do now. I have typically dated 7s, 8s, and 9s, with a few taller than I am. I will say that height is a real handicap, but can be dealt with in a way, that from my experience, opens you up to most women.

    However, every man has some handicap. The biggest handicap most men have is being beta pussies. BTW, my typical response when they say I am a little short I usually say something like, “yes, short, and awesome, do you want to see what that means” or “yes, I am short, but don’t make excuses because I am out of your league”

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  118. on April 13, 2011 at 8:25 am JG

    “The biggest handicap most men have is being beta pussies.”

    So true. The confident man wins out over the passive, insecure man even if the confident man is not as attractive to the ladies.

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  119. on April 13, 2011 at 8:44 am Rey

    @Cadnerd and DirkJohanson

    Thanks for the insight guys. I’m just trying to decide to go with the elevator shoes or not. Its true, even men shorter than me can do extremly well (take away the fame of Seth Green or Michael J. Fox, and I’d be they’d still get boatloads of chicks) and at 5’6 I’m not that short, I have a muscular/athletic body, and wear close that fit me well. I’m trying to decide should I just stick to working on my game, or should take advantage of the height enhancement that’s available. Any further advice? How many inches should I put on?

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  120. on April 13, 2011 at 8:52 am PA

    That’s not uncaring asshole game, that’s just spiteful, caring assholery.

    Here is one way of feeling out the difference between the two: an uncaring asshole has so much going for him he doesn’t try to ingratiate himself to anyone. A caring spiteful asshole is a desperado with nothing to lose so he lashes out.

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  121. on April 13, 2011 at 9:08 am aera

    i’m going to say this once: you’re an idiot but amusing.

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  122. on April 13, 2011 at 9:33 am aoefe

    @Cadnerd – “aoefe, the “logic” was an euphemism. The quotes should have clued you in.”

    duh…a sense of humour would have clued you in.

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  123. on April 13, 2011 at 9:45 am last tango

    some lulz..
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/galia-slayen/the-scary-reality-of-a-re_b_845239.html

    “Slumber Party Barbie was introduced in 1965 and came with a bathroom scale permanently set at 110 lbs with a book entitled “How to Lose Weight” with directions inside stating simply “Don’t eat.”

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  124. on April 13, 2011 at 10:13 am aoefe

    @Ray

    I wouldn’t mind you being shorter at home. It’s not your height that matters it’s your comfort with it that does. I didn’t like my dates feeling like they were diminutive or compensating because of height. I have a friend who is short and so is his brother, shorter than I am. They both have great success with women because they’re cocky and confident.

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  125. on April 13, 2011 at 10:28 am Schmoe

    Makes sense. They, as good looking women, know how much of a “bitch shield” they have to put up to keep from being inundated with requests from men, and are anyway. If you put up the male equivalent of a bitch shield online, they can tell you are a hot commodity. Same thing IRL.

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  126. on April 13, 2011 at 10:51 am al

    Girls don’t really care if you’re short, they care if you care. One of my besties is an even 6′ and I’ve seen her get knocked out of her heightism by a man with charm several times.

    You can tell if a guy is wearing lifts. Once a girl notices, it is a downgrade to your confidence/moxie. Better to be short and secure, than short and insecure.

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  127. on April 13, 2011 at 10:52 am julian

    rey, you should not get elevator shoes. just the thought itself is already creating a mental handicap in you. thats the worst kind of damage, worse than any height deficiency.

    if you want to get real boots, just get ones with a 1.5 heel designer made. you are getting them for the style and finesse of a well made boot and it does create a height enhancement.

    thing is, women will subconsciously SPIN any insecurity you display. when you take off those elevator shoes thats the first thing thats going to register in her mind. sure, aoefe says ” i wouldnt mind that he wore them” but her and any womans subconscious says a different thing. i guarantee you that you DHV way more in a womans eyes by not giving a shit how short you are than by acquiescing to some social demand where you look her height in public, guaranteed.

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  128. on April 13, 2011 at 11:03 am quetal

    I’m 6’2 barefoot…guess I won the genes lottery!

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  129. on April 13, 2011 at 11:27 am itsme

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/galia-slayen/the-scary-reality-of-a-re_b_845239.html

    mattel could easily make more realistic barbies by reaching a cross-licensing agreement with kenner to use their jabba the hutt action figure molds. they may need to tweak the pigmentation a bit but the results would be quite accurate, with minimal increase in production costs.

    this would single handedly put an end to eating disorders and nurture in young girls the self esteem they need to survive in this cruel harsh world.

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  130. on April 13, 2011 at 11:43 am A toast

    You know, Bill Brasky got his wife pregnant, and she gave birth to a delicious sixteen ounce steak. The afterbirth was sautéed mushrooms.

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  131. on April 13, 2011 at 11:48 am epiclolz

    The less physically alpha you are, the more bullet proof and fearless you have to be in general since you don’t have the visual trait halo to fill the gaps in your style.

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  132. on April 13, 2011 at 11:54 am JT

    I’ve also found my age(50) increasingly made online dating useless. 40-45 years had good success online, but once I hit 45 the effort quickly became greater than the rewards.

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  133. on April 13, 2011 at 12:01 pm Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

    Why he was only five foot three, girls could not resist his stare..

    Pablo Picasso was never called an asshole…

    Not in New York, not like you…

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  134. on April 13, 2011 at 12:04 pm Professor Woland

    I have had two periods of sexual activity in my life. Once, when I was young and very good looking before I got married and the other was afterwards when I was middle aged, still good looking (but not young), and wealthy. I can say without hesitation that my sexual life in middle age was much better. The quantity was not higher but the quality certainly was.

    Never underestimate the power of money and women’s attraction to it. Keep in mind that at its most basic level, money is a proxy for social status which is a proxy for intelligence. Dumb men don’t survive in dating pool much beyond their mid 20s. The pond starts to dry up because people with better things to do are usually doing them. That’s why the city centers are so vibrant. Most of the single ambitious women are flocking to where they think they will be successful. The problem being of course, that is where every other 7, 8, and 9 will be (sorry I don’t give 10s).

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  135. on April 13, 2011 at 12:09 pm Reality Check

    “…Ask a girl what she likes in men, and she’ll rattle off some stupid list she read in Cosmo, and then she’ll go home to her bartender boyfriend while her phone is lighting up with calls from all those nice guys with good jobs who are politely asking to take her out on expensive dates.”

    I understand that the power of game for an average man (beta or otherwise) can initially get himself an attractive woman, such as for a date(s), a ‘bang’, or even a short-term relationship..

    BUT…

    will such an attractive woman with options *ultimately stay* with such a man, particularly LTR’s and/or, heaven forbid, a marriage, if the man so chooses and desires?

    OR…

    …will it ultimately be one STR after another for the average man with the exceptional woman, in spite of his ‘tight, sterling game’?

    *Again, no obfuscating or equivocating with your answers fellas (and ladies), since we all know how important social status and where one falls in the economic class pecking order is for nearly all American women (spoiled or otherwise) – especially a very attractive woman who could land a man that would, and could, give her these things … or is she really ok with staying lower to lower middle class going out with (often economically-struggling) alphas?

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  136. on April 13, 2011 at 12:26 pm Brad Branson

    Word. Also more the reason to not listen to the advice some girl tries to give you. 😉

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  137. on April 13, 2011 at 1:02 pm Reality Check

    (sorry I don’t give 10s)

    Neither do i – since there is no such thing as “perfection”.

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  138. on April 13, 2011 at 1:08 pm DirkJohanson

    @ Rey. Put on as many inches as you can wear. I can’t stand wearing heavy shoes, and unfortunately I notice even slight differences, so I usually don’t wear the highest ones.

    @ Al I’ve was outed by one chick regarding the shoes, but it didn’t seem to downgrade me in her eyes. She didn’t make a big deal of it; it was almost like she was impressed with my ingenuity. Also, her biggest issues is bald guys, and at 5’4″, is taller than most girls I date, and since I cover up by bald-in-the-back with Toppik, it was crucial for me to never have her looking down in heels at the top of my head.

    Its not so easy to tell. The companies build the shoes with the heel built-in, and so few guys wear the shoes that chicks aren’t on the lookout for possible signs.

    @ Julian I disagree that the shoes erode inner game; for me, it builds it. For years, I hesitated buying these shoes out of concern that it would show lack of self-confidence. In fact, walking around being 6′ or more gets one a certain level of respect from both chicks and guys, and chicks really can’t complain about it since they all do the same thing.

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  139. on April 13, 2011 at 1:28 pm maurice

    some humor, for the enjoyment of the board:

    http://www.theonion.com/video/how-to-get-a-guy-to-notice-you-while-youre-having,19984/

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  140. on April 13, 2011 at 1:29 pm DirkJohanson

    @ Tim. My policy that chicks have to be naked to get into my bedroom has all sorts of benefits. Psychologically, its take-away to tell a girl she can’t go in the bedroom, and I’ve had amateurs over for the first time immediately strip and go inside, which immediately led to sex. Even if they’ve been there before, it keeps the focus in the bedroom on sex. Its also a dominance thing, since they are usually totally naked before I even have my shirt off, and often I am still fully clothed when they are already totally naked.

    To peek their interest, I keep the door slightly ajar, lights off, but with lava lamp on. I’ll also go in and out a couple of times to adjust the music and sometimes porn, since I run both off the computer in my bedroom, but I close the door after myself when I go in and out so the chick can’t follow me in to the bedroom while still dressed. If she does, its a good time to announce my policy. My policy announcement usually just starts, “you can’t go in there”. If she doesn’t responded with a “why not?” after a few seconds, I will then explain that “women aren’t allowed in their with clothes.” Of course, that line is a DHV. I live in a 1 BR apartment, so there’s not a lot of real estate to explore, so they almost always get curious about seeing the BR.

    Last year, I had one chick over for the first time and I told her to strip outside my apartment building. She then walked 3 flights of stairs naked, walking past several of my neighbors’ doorways. She loved it so much, she insisted on walking back out to the car naked in broad daylight.

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  141. on April 13, 2011 at 2:38 pm Yellow Kid Weil

    I don’t get what good platform shoes are gonna do if you don’t have the requisite charm or confidence to seduce a woman in the first place. Best case scenario with the shoes is that some quality girls who would normally overlook you might be more receptive but then loses interest since you’re still a beta schlup, just in platform shoes. So game first, shoes later.

    On an aside, one of my friends at school is this Bosnian chap that’s short (5’4″), poor, and looks like a potbellied fetal alcohol syndrome victim with a bad haircut. He once told me that getting fucked in the genetic lottery was one of the BEST things that happened to him since he knew from the get go that he didn’t have anything to fall back on except being an outrageous motherfucker. He’s settled down with a very chill 8 at the moment but he was a sight when he was in the game. It was choice overhearing all the other lads in the pubs and clubs over the years bitching about him getting all the girls even though they’re better looking.

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  142. on April 13, 2011 at 2:47 pm Firepower

    Yellow Kid Weil

    He once told me that getting fucked in the genetic lottery was one of the BEST things that happened to him

    Emigrating to the UK was the best thing that ever happened to him: There, being a hideous muslim immigrant with the typical sob story is a PLUS.

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  143. on April 13, 2011 at 3:00 pm what

    I can’t stand it! I have to say it….PLEASE don’t wear platform shoes. OMG!!! They are ugly and you would walk funny.

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  144. on April 13, 2011 at 3:02 pm Cadnerd

    @aoefe duh…a sense of humour would have clued you in.

    Look who’s talking!
    Next time I’ll add something like /jab or such, so you know you hafta laf, okay?

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  145. on April 13, 2011 at 3:07 pm Firepower

    what

    I can’t stand it! I have to say it….PLEASE don’t wear platform shoes. OMG!!! They are ugly and you would walk funny.

    Dude. theres NO reason EVER to require a man wear platforms when dating Asian girls.

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  146. on April 13, 2011 at 3:10 pm HR Lincoln

    @Prof Woland-
    “Never underestimate the power of money and women’s attraction to it. Keep in mind that at its most basic level, money is a proxy for social status which is a proxy for intelligence.”

    You’re absolutely right. Some parts of the PUA community seems to deride this point of view, either from a desire to sell workshops or as to buttress their own frame of mind.

    I’ve been broke, affluent, broke, affluent, broke again, and affluent (2 divorces). No one can convince me that money is not a bona fide tingle enhancer for many women.

    [Editor: Most men have the opposite problem: they overestimate the power of money and underestimate the power of game.]

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  147. on April 13, 2011 at 3:11 pm what

    @Firepower
    @what
    I can’t stand it! I have to say it….PLEASE don’t wear platform shoes. OMG!!! They are ugly and you would walk funny.

    “Dude. theres NO reason EVER to require a man wear platforms when dating Asian girls.”

    lol!!!You never fail to crack me up!! hahhah!

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  148. on April 13, 2011 at 3:23 pm Cadnerd

    Ah, figgered you out, What! You wanna be cracked up. Played like an organ!

    I thought you’ve got a BF!?? Must be a “serious” relationship and you need your fix.

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  149. on April 13, 2011 at 3:26 pm Cadnerd

    Re elevator platforms. Overheard:
    GIRL 1: “That guy is kinda cute.”
    GIRL 2: “Yeah, but look at those hoofs!”

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  150. on April 13, 2011 at 3:27 pm what

    @Cadnerd
    “Ah, figgered you out, What! You wanna be cracked up. Played like an organ!
    I thought you’ve got a BF!?? Must be a “serious” relationship and you need your fix.”

    hahahha!! You’re funny too. I got YOU figured out! :)))!!! fix, fix, fix!!! lol!!!

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  151. on April 13, 2011 at 3:28 pm Student

    You might like this:

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  152. on April 13, 2011 at 3:30 pm Cadnerd

    What, I’ll buy you a pack of smarties in acknowledgment of your keen faculties.

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  153. on April 13, 2011 at 3:32 pm what

    Cadnerd,

    :)))

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  154. on April 13, 2011 at 3:32 pm Erik

    Being 5’4 myself, I know it’s a handicap. But, the funny thing is, when I get a girl she just happens to almost always fall in love with me. My scores have also improved in beauty. I’m 27 and I’m currently seeing a 19 year old girl who is taller than me, runs track, hits the weights, and still has D tittays and dat ass with her amazing body.

    I’m not particularly “nice” to them. I’m actually kind of selfish towards them for the most part. I’m more of a taker than a giver.

    If I had to give one piece of advice to short guys, I would say, forget about being short. There is absolutely no reason to focus on it in any way. It truly does not matter. Just as you can look at someone else and see how fun, charismatic, and great to be around they are; they can do the same to you.

    Oh, and me having some muscles helps 😉

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  155. on April 13, 2011 at 3:34 pm Max

    This story makes my bs detector go off, so I have three questions:

    One: How short was the guy?

    Two: How hot were the women he was banging?

    Three: Why did you make this story up?

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  156. on April 13, 2011 at 3:35 pm Anonymous

    Lmao at all this platform shoes discussion. This comment section is worthless now that its little more than useless betas and dumb women pretending to be a nawalt. plz do something about Ur comments section. bring back the days of offended women being verbally lambasted and normal men talking about their actual experiences.

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  157. on April 13, 2011 at 3:38 pm Anonymous

    Max…. in what way is a standard story about a short guy getting girls not believable….have u ever been outside. are u autistic.

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  158. on April 13, 2011 at 3:43 pm Max

    “Max…. in what way is a standard story about a short guy getting girls not believable….have u ever been outside. are u autistic.”

    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    How about a little more detail…like how short was the dude.

    Here is a tip: go outside.

    Take a look around and tell me how many short guys are walking around with taller women.

    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Then, go jump off a bridge.

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  159. on April 13, 2011 at 3:55 pm Erik

    lol Max is fookin jelly. Don’t be sad brah.

    I’m 5’4 and 90%+ of my gf’s and lays have been taller than me.

    Chicks dig a guy who has the internal power to demand what he wants. simple as that.

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  160. on April 13, 2011 at 3:59 pm Cadnerd

    Hey, Mini (Max)!

    Heard of game? It friggen works.

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  161. on April 13, 2011 at 4:07 pm Adrian

    How do you guys use the quote function? I can’t find out how to use it. Normally on other message boards its like this (without the quotation marks): [quote]insert text here[/quote]

    How is it done here?

    Thanks.

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  162. on April 13, 2011 at 4:11 pm Cadnerd

    Adrian:

    <blockquote> quoted text </blockquote>

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  163. on April 13, 2011 at 4:21 pm Anonymous

    Being short often leads to or genetically comes with a bunch of other feminine qualities. Examples include lashing out emotionally and developing a victim complex… When it doesn’t its not a problem.

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  164. on April 13, 2011 at 4:22 pm Cadnerd

    Max,

    Take a look around and tell me how many short guys are walking around with taller women.

    I think that the “Max” is your platform shoes, were you a tall guy, this would not be such a deal to you. Or, you may be tall on the outside, but you need to grow up on the inside.

    Statistically, you are right, not many.

    But then you find some that blow you out of the water and scoop the poon around you with nothing left for you to adorn your bedroom with.

    When you see that type of shorty, watch and learn.

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  165. on April 13, 2011 at 4:52 pm Adrian

    Thanks Cadnerd.

    insert text

    [blockquote]insert text[/blockquote]

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  166. on April 13, 2011 at 5:19 pm Da_Truth_Hurts

    Wear Vibram 5 Fingers. Like being barefoot.

    When she bends over to check out your totally sweet toe shoes, stick your cock in her mouth. Winning!

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  167. on April 13, 2011 at 5:19 pm what

    My best friend (girl 5’9″) who swears she will NEVER date a guy shorter than her is attracted to a guy who is about 5’6″! The guy has GOOOOOOD game. haha!! At least he is taller than MOI!!!! hey, maybe he is wearing platforms! hee! hee!

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  168. on April 13, 2011 at 5:38 pm Charlie Sheen

    It’s true. Game trumps everything. JUST BELIEVE IT.

    I won’t bore you with any anecdote. Stop “needing proof” because asking for validation is beta. Just fucking do it and win.

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  169. on April 13, 2011 at 5:44 pm Erik

    @Rey

    Stick it out man. The internal reward you will get from winning without a crutch will give you confidence beyond measure.

    You’ll always question whether it was the shoes or you that women noticed. Don’t crutch your game.

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  170. on April 13, 2011 at 5:47 pm Erik

    @Rey

    Case in point. Vladamir Putin. That guy is like 5’5 on a good day and can put the fear of god in any man.

    Height doesn’t mean shit.

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  171. on April 13, 2011 at 6:06 pm hamster

    oh man, what is this post 🙂
    and so many comments in 2 days!!!

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  172. on April 13, 2011 at 6:17 pm Anonymous

    Yellow Kid Weil:

    On an aside, one of my friends at school is this Bosnian chap that’s short (5’4″), poor, and looks like a potbellied fetal alcohol syndrome victim with a bad haircut. He once told me that getting fucked in the genetic lottery was one of the BEST things that happened to him since he knew from the get go that he didn’t have anything to fall back on except being an outrageous motherfucker. He’s settled down with a very chill 8 at the moment but he was a sight when he was in the game. It was choice overhearing all the other lads in the pubs and clubs over the years bitching about him getting all the girls even though they’re better looking.

    Firepower:

    Emigrating to the UK was the best thing that ever happened to him: There, being a hideous muslim immigrant with the typical sob story is a PLUS.

    Yup – your typical Nordish (Northern European) gal is socially encouraged and conditioned to fall for any sob story as long as it is coming from a non-Nord.

    All to Our People’s detriment (and to think we possibly may have that Bosnian Muslim’s genes floating around in our NW Euro gene pool… sheesh).

    http://www.racialcompact.com/

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  173. on April 13, 2011 at 7:17 pm Tim

    @Dirk,

    To peek their interest, I keep the door slightly ajar, lights off, but with lava lamp on. I’ll also go in and out a couple of times to adjust the music and sometimes porn, since I run both off the computer in my bedroom, but I close the door after myself when I go in and out so the chick can’t follow me in to the bedroom while still dressed.

    See, it’s the little details which impress me. It’s why I come to this blog; to learn something. If I were a chick and I knew you went to such lengths to make me comfortable, I’d fuck you for sure.

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  174. on April 13, 2011 at 7:41 pm Erik

    @ Rey

    I’m 5’4. I’m 27. I’m dating a 19 year old black girl in college on scholarship who runs track, lifts weights, has dem titties and dat ass, and is still down to earth. She was my brother’s roommate and after I fucked her like crazy and she fell in love with me, he cried to her about how much he loved her. She had to leave his house, and we still fuck. She has over 10 stories of guy friends projecting how much they love her and blah blah.

    I’m serious when I say building internal confidence is the path to success. It’s the only thing that will still be there when all your money is gone, when your beauty is gone, when your car is gone…

    Once you have the confidence you can wear whatever you want and not care.

    Here is my problem with platforms. If I wear them to get girls, then what happens when I’m clowned on by girls for wearing them? I better be solid as a fucking rock in order to not let them penetrate my confidence. Most likely, most women wouldn’t realize it, but those strong women, the ones who can fuck hard and have internal confidence in themselves might try to break me. If I didn’t have confidence in my true reason for wearing them, I could revert to beta child mode.

    Wear em to be funny. Wear em to be a clown. Wear em to show your friends how fucking shallow women are for noticing height right away, regardless of ever talking to you, etc. Wear em to expose women for what they are and then you will truly see what I see. Women are victims of their own minds

    Don’t try to please women with your height. Stop trying to please them altogether.

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  175. on April 13, 2011 at 7:58 pm Hezzbot

    It’s true. I’m a 5’9″ woman, and I won’t generally look at guys shorter than me. This is entirely because I dated a couple short guys who wouldn’t stop being self-conscious about it. In general, the ones who aren’t self-conscious have some kind of desperate need to make up for it with a giant Napoleon complex, which is rooted in the same sentiment. If you have confidence, or more importantly act like you have it, nobody will think about your height twice.

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  176. on April 13, 2011 at 8:59 pm pango

    OT: beta of the year candidate:

    http://lastsinglestanding.tumblr.com/post/4584957041/an-open-ended-letter-to-the-women-of-the-world

    “I hate the very idea of the dating “game”. Pursuit is boring, I’m uninterested in pretending that I’m someone I’m not just to get laid. You girls (sorry for the generalization, it’s not meant to be sexist, but naming names would be un-kosher) bitch and moan endlessly about douchebags, yet you crave their attention so intensely its disgusting. ”

    same old mistakes. same old whining. same old lack of success with girls. will they never learn?

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  177. on April 13, 2011 at 9:34 pm Jeffrey of Troy

    Some guy will say “money is everything!”, and then some other guy says “money doesn’t matter at all!”

    Then one says “height is everything!” then another says “height doesn’t matter at all!”

    Then someone says “is there peer-reviewed evidence game works on pubmed?” and some robot predictably responds “game trumps all!”

    Money is A factor, Game is A factor, height is A factor, social proof is A factor, etc. The more of women’s attraction triggers you can rack up, the hotter chicks you can get. Duh.

    Does it take a genius?

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  178. on April 13, 2011 at 10:43 pm epiclolz

    @Firepower

    what

    I can’t stand it! I have to say it….PLEASE don’t wear platform shoes. OMG!!! They are ugly and you would walk funny.

    Dude. theres NO reason EVER to require a man wear platforms when dating Asian girls.

    Unless you want to add more ‘godzilla’ effect to your repertoire.

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  179. on April 13, 2011 at 10:55 pm what

    @epiclolz ,

    you mean this will make us Asians excited!!??hahah!!

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  180. on April 13, 2011 at 11:29 pm DirkJohanson

    Erik wrote, “Don’t try to please women with your height. Stop trying to please them altogether.”

    In a previous post, he noted that having muscles helps you get chicks. Seems contradictory; its a lot less work to buy and put on these shoes than to lift 3-4 times a week.

    What is it with height-enhancing shoes that people are so hung up on? We all agree that dressing a certain way, having decent hair or a shaved head, maybe some good facial hair, peacocking, wearing shades indoors, in some cases a good tattoo, and even good shoes – all of that – helps get chicks. But somehow – and I’m not singling you out, Erik, because its common – when it comes to the definition of “good shoes” including those that add height – something which is a big factor to a lot of chicks – there’s always a crowd of guys and women saying, “you can’t do that!”

    I’ll leave it to someone else to try to figure out the psychology of that. In the meantime, my advice to Rey is the opposite as yours. I say he should look at the height-enhancing shoes like training wheels on a bicycle, and if for some reason after banging a bunch of hot chicks in part from wearing the shoes having inner game is more important to him than the quantity and quality of chicks he gets – which seems to me the whole point of having the inner game – then he can stop wearing them, safe in the knowledge that he’s banged chicks just as hot if not hotter before.

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  181. on April 14, 2011 at 12:50 am xsplat

    I’ve been broke, affluent, broke, affluent, broke again, and affluent (2 divorces). No one can convince me that money is not a bona fide tingle enhancer for many women.

    [Editor: Most men have the opposite problem: they overestimate the power of money and underestimate the power of game.]

    Money is game. On a first date I have the luxury of casually walking a girl over from the coffee shop to my office – where she may meet my staff if it’s the daytime, or be impressed by the renovation job and number of desks if it’s at night, then bachelor pad, then 2nd spacious abode.

    The large screen TVs, indoor movie theater, leather couches and lazy-boy chairs, $2000 bed, bar, ping pong table on the 3rd floor, etc etc is game. All these things make each word I say wittier, more important, more relevant, and more personal. All these things make her feel as if we are making a deep personal connection. They make her feel all at once at ease and uncomfortable. That I am unattainable and that there is an interpersonal magnetism. She wants to come back for more.

    Sure, men may overestimate money. That is not strategic. But underestimating money is being deliberately retarded.

    If you can hit the gym to improve game, do it. You’d be a lazy fool not to. If you can use money to your advantage…

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  182. on April 14, 2011 at 1:10 am julian

    “Money is A factor, Game is A factor, height is A factor, social proof is A factor, etc. The more of women’s attraction triggers you can rack up, the hotter chicks you can get. Duh.

    Does it take a genius?”

    I think everyone here understands that these are all factors. The issue is establishing a clear hierarchy as to which factors matter the most and are the easiest to attain. We are men and we always look at things from a cost/benefit analysis.

    That said, FAME trumps all factors, even game. I would say fame even trumps things like being the president of a country. Fame is like being social proofed and DHV’ed X infinity anywhere in the world you travel.

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  183. on April 14, 2011 at 1:19 am Wissen Frauen auf was sie bei Männern stehen? « Alles Evolution

    […] im Gespräch mit einem anderen Player, der den Nachteil hat sehr klein zu sein, was viele Frauen abschreckt. Aber er hat Game, was seiner […]

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  184. on April 14, 2011 at 2:08 am xsplat

    Julian

    Fame is like being social proofed and DHV’ed X infinity anywhere in the world you travel.

    MOST men have a mental block towards receiving the wisdom of what is right in front of their eyes. The mental block is cognitive between their lying eyes and their cherished moral values of the way things SHOULD be. We want to view women as moral creatures. We refuse to believe that “good girls” could be attracted to crass things.

    And so we hate the fact that money is an attractiveness trigger, even to “good” girls.

    A huge blind spot for men is that you can raise your value simply by changing your location. It’s too deep an ego blow to many. But what does that say about your “real” value, if dating is merely a game of relativity?

    Morals and self evaluation hamper seeing the obvious.

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  185. on April 14, 2011 at 2:09 am xsplat

    The mental block is cognitive dissonance between their lying eyes and their cherished moral values of the way things SHOULD be.

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  186. on April 14, 2011 at 2:55 am Rum

    Money/Game

    I spent a summer during college hanging out in Alaska looking for work. (It seemed logical at the time.) I had close to zero money and no status in any normal sense. I lived in a homemade tent set up in a huge, unruly city park with a gang of similarly motivated nomads and criminals.
    In most of Alaska, in those days, there were about 4-5 eager cocks for every conceivable port in a storm. But just about every night (even if it never got dark) a stream of starry-eyed 16-17 year old local girls would come out to the camp to bring us… presents. Mostly dope (not always just) but why did they do anything at all with unwashed, unemployed, transient kids from the lower 48? But they did.
    It is not like we were rockstars; but they did give us a taste of what its like to be one.
    But all the “parents” wanted to kill us. By and by, we had to run for our lives. I found a place for free in one of the unheated upstairs room of an abandoned whore-house outside of Fairbanks. Just had to do some repair work.
    12-13 years later, 7 figure net worth.
    Six of one, half dozen of the other. Except that you are a LOT less likely to get killed for having commited sex crimes with non-teens.

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  187. on April 14, 2011 at 3:57 am xsplat

    Rum, try this thought experiment.

    In Alaska you were running young mans dread-head game. Being counter-cultural.

    Imagine the exact same game, but letting it be known you were a fundie.

    More poon?

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  188. on April 14, 2011 at 4:40 am Rum

    Fundie?

    A relative of mine owns a Feast Day in the Book of Common Prayer – of the Episcopal Church of N. America. (one third of American Presidents out of 2% of the population). My family has a major American school of theology/seminary named after it. Banking and Process Theology are like the family businesses.

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  189. on April 14, 2011 at 5:25 am xsplat

    Fundie is hipster slang for trust fund kid.

    A relative of mine owns a Feast Day in the Book of Common Prayer – of the Episcopal Church of N. America. (one third of American Presidents out of 2% of the population). My family has a major American school of theology/seminary named after it. Banking and Process Theology are like the family businesses.

    I know all of the individual words above, but understand none of the meaning.

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  190. on April 14, 2011 at 6:02 am Rum

    My mom was born into a dirt poor family of pre-doomed white trash/scotch irish hill billy losers in some kind of mud smeared gully in the worst part of the Appalachian back-hills.
    The name on her birth certificate was Othelia Creutzfeld, but everyone just called her Berte.
    She defintely had to work for her living. She held positions in the OSS, CIA, and things she would never discuss.
    I am pretty sure she kiiled her first three “husbands”. Because she knew none of them were up to the job of being my father.

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  191. on April 14, 2011 at 12:02 pm Schmoe

    @xsplat
    From the wiki:
    “The Episcopal Church publishes Lesser Feasts and Fasts, which contains feast days for the various men and women the Church wishes to honor. This book is updated every three years, and notable persons are added to the liturgical calendar.”

    Kind of a who’s who of Episcopals I guess.

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  192. on April 14, 2011 at 12:05 pm Schmoe

    @julian
    Neil Strauss, once considered the best PUA in the world, wrote in “The Game” that his best time ever of having to beat the women off with sticks is when he visit a bar and everyone there thought he was Moby. Not even all that famous.

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  193. on April 14, 2011 at 1:40 pm j.kharisma@gmail.com

    This post could not be more true. I am roommates with my cousin, for the time being. He is about 6’4″ and I am about 5’9″. He has a big shiny car. I take the train. He will barely open his mouth around women. I say what I want around women. I’m not exceptionally handsome, I try to dress reasonably well. But I take shots at women who are viewed as “out of my league”. Hell, a few years ago, I saw things the same way. But I accepted that the majority of women I meet aren’t gonna sleep with me, but I keep gunning for those that will. From living with him, I know for sure that I get more dates and lays than he does. But I put in the work, too. It’s to the point where it’s noticeable and he’s gotten off his high horse to ask for tips now.

    I give him general advice [confidence, etc.] and even have referred him to dating materials such as DYD, RSD, etc. But he’s too proud to believe some funny looking white dude can teach him how to spit game [we’re black, BTW]. I told him that certain things do have to be adjusted for the audience, but the principles are rock solid. I guess he’ll have to hit rock bottom before he looks for the rope.

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  194. on April 14, 2011 at 2:50 pm Rarfy

    >A huge blind spot for men is that you can raise your value simply by changing your location.

    OMG this is so true. An asian friend on mine who lived for 30 years near me in Southern California could NOT get a date. I mean he’d had like one girlfriend in 30 years.

    Then he moved to Minnesota and within 2 months got not only a long-term girlfriend but a WHITE one. And not bad looking or fat either.

    Also, height depends on locality. I’m 5’8 and in SoCal that’s short. Elsewhere in the world it’s probably average, and some places (far east) it’s tall.

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  195. on April 14, 2011 at 4:50 pm Sal Paradise

    Height definitely helps, but I agree with him that you can overcome it with charisma/game.

    I bought some lifts from this website recently. http://www.tallerheels.com/height-increasing-insoles/. I bought the discreet edition ones and they fit into my dress shoes fairly well. They give you about an inch of height regularly(I’m 5-10), which is about all you can do without your feet popping out of the shoe. There are other websites for lifts, but I”m not sure how good they are.

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  196. on April 15, 2011 at 12:06 am T-Doggz

    I’m a tall-ish dude, about 6’1 or so. Taller than most everyone I work with. From this perspective, it’s a nice to have. It gets some notice/respect, but I wouldn’t get hung up on it. Women still aren’t all that cooperative if *all* you have is height.

    Game/swagger/confidence, whatever you call it, is still key. The guy she’s talking about here really gets it. Short dudes can clean up if they got that dudes approach. Hat’s off to him for getting it.

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  197. on April 15, 2011 at 12:21 am InternetUser

    I love the internet. If anything can be measured in a numerical quantity, e.g. vertical measurement of the human male body, it is overanalyzed and everyone has an extremely strong fucking expert opinion on it with no ifs, ands, or buts. But for anything requires a modicum of intuition and social intelligence, it takes a fucking blog with 3 years of archive material to convey anything to these people. Further to the point, this blog is kind of like common sense distilled in such a way that it resonates with right-wing leaning social misfits. This blog validates my own common sense and I agree with its writer on everything, but you have to acknowledge how damning it is how many commenters are always claiming that they never realized any of this shit before coming here, and that they were so utterly “lost” before discovering the crimson arts. It’s like they never even took a minute in high school to observe what some of the upperclassmen did to game girls, and just stayed in their own little world, immersed within themselves and their autism until age 25 when they discovered the internet.

    I see some short guys getting their ass handed to them every day in life by their fellow primates. Getting no respect from women, failing in any and all endeavors, etc. Most of this shit is avoidable, but most of these mother fuckers are idiots with no common sense. Sure, so are most people, but there needs to be some kind of compensatory factor when the world is such a cruel and ruthless place, especially for men at risk of being deemed sub-par. I see other guys of sub-par stature kicking ass every single day due to innate swagger and awesomeness. It really doesn’t matter if the former group is 99% and the latter is 1%, or if it’s 50/50. If you’re in the latter group, you fucking exist and your personal modality as a human being is righteous.

    And it certainly doesn’t matter if women have checklists for fuck’s sake. If you are over the age of 16 and think that womens’ checklists are actually enforced, you are autistic. Obviously if you are a man of low stature, socially unproofed, and foolish in mind, going about yourself like a pussy, you are going to have a fucking hard time getting any respect. And you won’t be getting the outright kind of disrespect experienced by African-Americans in the early 20th century that instills righteous indignance. It’ll be hundreds of thousands of subtle social slights dispersed throughout your lifetime, half of which you won’t even notice, affecting your subconscious evaluation of yourself.

    As far as I go, approaching women has never been anything of any particular difficulty. You just don’t have all that much to worry about. They are fun to look at and easily amused, especially the hot/dumb ones. You can intuit with great ease and very little gray area whether she is receptive to you, and go from there. Alcohol increases efficacy 50 fold. Never worried too much about a girl’s friends dissing on me either. A female acknowledging your existence is implicit validation; they can only defeat you by ignoring you successfully. Access to troves of women is granted to all admitees of our nation’s colleges and universities, and the male competition in these settings is weak unless you attend a hallowed jockocracy.

    The real difficulty has always been jockeying for position with other guys. Men are smart and ruthless creatures, and will often try actively to disqualify you from competing with them if they can. If you roll with a clique of powerhouses, it will help in social proofing but there will be a tendency for you to be shoehorned as a beta within your social circle. If you roll with a bunch of pissants, it will ruin you for social proofing with legit hotties but will not leave you disqualified by women in your social circle.

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  198. on April 15, 2011 at 3:04 am Rum

    Where I grew up, a Fundie was a Fundamentalist Christian.
    This is a tricky subject, in a way, because in my deep family history there have been several prominent academic theologians – none of whom were remotely “Fundie.”
    When I asserted that my family “owned” a feast day in the calender of the Episcopal Church I meant that it is an old and permanent one, that we possess. It is in the Book of Common Prayer (which is a far more important thing than the Bible, in certain circles.)
    And even though I was near to passing out when I wrote it, my Mom (may she RIP) really did in fact have an amazing life.

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  199. on April 15, 2011 at 10:10 am The cost of sluthood. | Dalrock

    […] Doing just a bit of research, I found that Ms. Belle was writing about an event which occurred nine years ago when she was 34.  On paper her husband would have seemed to be a perfect catch.  He had a high status job as an entertainment lawyer.  Their combined status as a couple lead to the New York Times writing a two page article about their wedding.  Her mother and aunts must have been proud!  However, Mr. Kent’s faults from an attractiveness point of view are featured prominently in that same wedding announcement.  They open the piece by poking fun at his height.  He’s 5-foot-4, even when he’s claiming to be an inch taller, which he sometimes does.  Even Aunt Edna must have cringed at that one.  But still, a short man can do quite well if he has good enough game. […]

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  200. on April 15, 2011 at 11:44 am itsme

    i know a guy who’s 5’4″ and can’t get laid.

    if you ask him why women don’t seem to be attracted to him, he’ll say ‘because they all want tall guys’.

    wrong answer and wrong attitude.

    also, other possible contributing factors to his not getting clunge include: he’s 40 years old and still lives at home with mom, he’s got low self esteem and no self confidence (caused i’m sure by his mommy issues), he bitches and whines and complains like a little girl about everything, the list goes on…

    do not be this guy.

    you may not have control over your (real) height, but pretty much everything else is malleable.

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  201. on April 15, 2011 at 6:10 pm Anon

    Don’t wear lifts – wear boots. Same increase in height, and now you’re being “stylish” instead of pathetic. If someone calls you on it, you can just own it, or make up some story about your family’s ranch.

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  202. on April 15, 2011 at 6:23 pm DirkJohanson

    @ Anon at 6:10 PM

    Yea, cuz boots are gonna go over well when used on a daily basis in a work atmosphere like a Manhattan law firm.

    “Why are u wearing those boots every day?”

    “They’re from my family ranch”

    “When you interviewed here, you told me your family has lived in Brooklyn for 3 generations.”

    “Uh, er, that’s true, but before that, they had an olive tree grove in Tuscany.”

    “Just how old are those boots?”

    Or at the gym,

    “Excuse me, sir, but you can’t wear those boots while you are on the cardio machines. Insurance issues.”

    “But my family has a ranch.”

    “But your family has a ranch?! How bout you get your butt outta here and don’t come back til you’re wearing sneakers!”

    Besides, I don’t know of any boots with 4 1/2″ heels. If you do, please let us know where to get them.

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  203. on April 15, 2011 at 8:35 pm Anon

    We’re talking about when you’re going out. Who cares about work? That’s just asking for even more problems – you pick up some chick at work using your four inch lifts, people at work are going to find out you’re wandering around with them. I mean, the end goal is to be naked and barefoot in the same room, right?

    You could meet random chicks at the gym, but are you telling me you wear four inch lifts in your sneakers while you’re working out on a treadmill? That’s a pretty serious sense of balance.

    If you don’t like cowboy boots, get dress boots. They look nice, and if you tuck them in they look just like you’re wearing dress shoes. I’ve got a pair, adds about three inches to the height, and they don’t look any different from the shoes I wear at work. If someone’s staring closely enough to tell, they’d be staring closely enough to tell you had your lifts on. I can at least say I’m wearing them because I think they look cool.

    They look a lot like this pair:

    http://www.neimanmarcus.com/store/catalog/prod.jhtml?itemId=prod119860110&parentId=cat6750735&masterId=cat000550&index=8&cmCat=cat000000cat000470cat000550cat6750735

    Imagine that tucked into a nice pair of jeans – it’s going to win you points, not get you mocked.

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  204. on April 15, 2011 at 11:15 pm DevastatinglyFemale

    a midget…maybe if i was desperate and he had some good hair. but a midget with an attitude and no hair…i would rather be a lesbian.

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  205. on April 16, 2011 at 12:21 am Jesua

    As a short man (5’5″), let me just add that… I don’t even like taller women. I prefer tiny, petite little things.

    I’ve dated my fair share of taller women. My last girlfriend was a good 3-4″ taller than me and a beautiful, blonde Texan belle.

    …but I didn’t like her being taller.

    In bed, there were anatomical difficulties. I couldn’t throw her around like I had liked. And psychologically, it always felt like I was interfacing with an authority figure. Etc etc. I didn’t like all that.

    Anyways, long story short, my new motto is I want a girl as tall or, preferably, smaller than me. It’s just how I’m rolling these days.

    Figure that cuts out alot of women out of the pool, yes. But it gives me a chance to be selective. And I’ll be damned if I’m not a fucking hit within my niche of preferred womanheight.

    And think about this… Eva Longoria is 5’2″ and Kim Kardashian is 5′ 3″. There’s a shitload of high quality pussy in MY niche.

    All of this being said, I acknowledge that I have to stay on top of my game to recoup some of that social value that is, indeed, lost to height. Psychologically, that’s a gimmie. But I keep it tight physically, maintain a sexy, muscular physique, wear nice looking clothes, roll around with fun, interesting, well dressed people, etc. Gotta recoup some of that social value, yes, but hey, I have a good excuse to buy nice clothes and always walk looking my best and feeling sharp in my hot whatevers, as a result of it.

    Short aint a curse.

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  206. on April 16, 2011 at 6:31 am Rey

    Yes, no one is arguing that being short is a irredeemable flaw. We all agree that good game can more than make up for shortness in height, and there are a good deal of women out there who are 5’5 (especially those of the ethnic variety) or under that are good matches for short men.
    The thing I‘m considering is, as a somewhat short man with game, shouldn’t I hedge my bets? Even Mystery, despite already being tall, has worn ridiculously big platform shoes as is seen in this pic: http://leaguechronicles.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/mystery-and-style-pua.jpg
    The thing with elevator shoes is they don’t look as ridiculous as platform shoes, come in many styles, including boot styles, and improve posture.
    We all know that being tall has advantages when meeting women, but maybe a little less known fact is that taller men (and women) are more successful in business and earn higher salaries than their shorter counterparts. “Economists have known for a long time that it pays to be tall. Multiple studies have found that an extra inch of height can be worth an extra $1,000 a year or so in wages, after controlling for education and experience” http://www.slate.com/id/2063439/

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  207. on April 16, 2011 at 6:32 am Rey

    That’s just some to consider though.
    I’m still undecided on actually purchasing the shoes and would appreciate more feedback on this issue. I’m planning on becoming a litigator, and would think being able to look the opposing lawyer (lawyers in Texas being mostly white men from rich families I.E. tall men) in and eye, or even better, look down the opposing lawyer would be psychologically helpful.
    Then again, I think its only a matter of time until elevator shoes start becoming talked about in the mainstream media, as the PUA culture has, and girls will start being on the lookout for it, as they are with pickup artists.

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  208. on April 16, 2011 at 2:55 pm Jesua

    @Ray:

    I don’t want to do anything Mystery does. That guy is a fucking circus show.

    Just learn to deal with your height. Be good. Be the best at whatever it is that you do. You can’t argue with that.

    Look at Lil Wayne. Guy is 5’6″, a legend, and how many millions of people aspire to be/fuck him everyday?

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  209. on April 16, 2011 at 3:06 pm B_face

    Im 31 and 5’8, my big problem is that I look unusually young for my age. People think Im 23 and I often get called babyface

    will this work against me? sometimes I think it does because It makes me look kiddish, I have thought that even with careers I don’t get taken too seriously.

    would this help me in the long run, aging slowly that is? so I dont look like a grandpa too early, keeping looking young is better for the getting the young fluff or does this run against me?

    contrast my cousin who is 35 balding and going grey, with mass wrinkles

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  210. on April 16, 2011 at 5:24 pm DirkJohanson

    @ Jesua. And Lil’ Wayne isn’t a circus act. Here’s a picture of him: http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.stoneyroads.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/lil_wayne_pink_bape.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.stoneyroads.com/lil-wayne/2009/06/30/&h=833&w=472&sz=137&tbnid=eCoyRyLFwmarzM:&tbnh=144&tbnw=82&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dlil%2Bwayne%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=lil+wayne&usg=__gTYhIGBFylY6wNKjElSQAB5KvJc=&sa=X&ei=YweqTeWNBsyJ0QGv_-X5CA&ved=0CCsQ9QEwAw

    You talk about him like he’s right out of a Dockers advertisement.

    @ B-face I look way young. Not good for the career, but at my age (48), I think it helps with the chicks given that I’m not particularly successful financially. I didn’t look as young for my age when I was your age, though, and my career wasn’t going well, so I had nothing to lose. What you probably don’t want to be is old-looking and poor – though if you do end up that way, you still might be able to get biker chicks if you buy a bike and put on that whole act.

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  211. on April 16, 2011 at 5:26 pm DirkJohanson

    Rey wrote, “Then again, I think its only a matter of time until elevator shoes start becoming talked about in the mainstream media, as the PUA culture has, and girls will start being on the lookout for it, as they are with pickup artists.”

    Better to get in on it now, then, unless you want to look even relatively shorter when everyone else is wearing the shoes and you still aren’t.

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  212. on April 16, 2011 at 6:28 pm what

    A few years ago on the Eurostar…heading to London from Paris. Someone was obviously on a business call sounding VERY much in charge. He sounded extremely confident, definitely in control of whatever he was doing. I had to locate the guy. I looked back and forth and there he was……..short, smallish casually, smartly dressed. I think by what he was talking about, he was in hi-tech. hehe!! I listened! I think he was only a little taller than me (me being 5’2″) I didn’t care. I just found him extremely attractive. I mean he looked good. It was his attitude and his CONFIDENCE that did it for me. Now. I couldn’t say for sure if I would be attracted to someone shorter than my height though.

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  213. on April 16, 2011 at 6:53 pm B_face

    @ Dirk I feel that way, that I don’t get taken seriously career wise sometimes, it harmful careerwise. I just wonder how long will I have this will I be 40 looking very young? would it help getting the young women? I hope

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  214. on April 16, 2011 at 7:48 pm Jesua

    @DirkJohanson

    Lil Wayne does often look like he’s right out of a Docker’s advertisement, my friend:

    http://www.fashionlifeent.com/photos/uploads/2011/02/Lil-Wayne-Nicki-Minaj-RedCarpet.bmp

    Whereas I’ve never seen Mystery without goggles on. And the guy has a lipstick tattoo on his neck. Wtf.

    And before you go on about Lil Wayne’s tattoos… those tattoos are WAY more alpha than anything on Mystery’s body.

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  215. on April 16, 2011 at 11:10 pm Rarfy

    The thing that men will never fully understand (just as women don’t understand how men could want to bone tons and tons of anonymous broads they don’t even know) is how much of a woman’s feelings toward him is based on his BEHAVIOR rather than his immutable physical characteristics.

    This is because men don’t care much about women’s behavior, it’s their physical characteristics that count.

    It’s hard to put yourself in the other gender’s shoes.

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  216. on April 16, 2011 at 11:15 pm Anonymous

    Rarfy said: “It’s hard to put yourself in the other gender’s shoes.”

    Especially since they usually don’t fit and trying to walk in heels is a bitch.

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  217. on April 17, 2011 at 12:40 am Rum

    It is not the other genders “shoes” I want to put myself into.
    Tangled up in blue…

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  218. on April 17, 2011 at 10:36 am DevastatinglyFemale

    JESUA:

    “And think about this… Eva Longoria is 5’2″ and Kim Kardashian is 5′ 3″. There’s a shitload of high quality pussy in MY niche.”

    in theory. but that niche sadly shrinks because of what they tend to chose – the basketball players! they could go for ‘short charismatic man with a game”, they can actually chose any height of a man since they are short or pettite, yet – what’s their preference? a tall man.

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  219. on April 17, 2011 at 10:53 am xsplat

    DevastatinglyFemale

    in theory. but that niche sadly shrinks because of what they tend to chose – the basketball players! they could go for ‘short charismatic man with a game”, they can actually chose any height of a man since they are short or pettite, yet – what’s their preference? a tall man.

    Nah.

    Short girls are out there, and some are properly proportioned. I know they don’t do it for all men, but some of us reserve a special fetish for womanly proportioned mini-girls. Freakish little dolls with forearms the size of my dick.

    When the two of you stand side by side and her mouth is at the height of your nipples, everyone is happy all around.

    Mini girls with high tight bubble butts make Daddy happy all night and all day long.

    Makes me glad to be a short man.

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  220. on April 18, 2011 at 11:53 am Tinderbox

    @ aoefe

    Our host like em’ tall. I remember a post/comment where he said height makes it easier for a woman to wrap her legs around a back. (Why I remember that is beyond me…)

    I’m guessing it’s because you’ve fantasized about it regularly ever since.

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  221. on April 18, 2011 at 12:27 pm Reality Check

    in theory. but that niche sadly shrinks because of what they tend to chose –

    Well, that all depends on what men choose them back — that is, for anything other than a pump-n-dump.

    Get real, ladies, and stop punching for men out of your ‘niche’ (league) because many men will use you when you attempt to– and will leverage your narcissistic desire of thinking of yourself as a ‘princess’ (lol) to their advantage, not yours.

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  222. on April 18, 2011 at 12:59 pm xsplat

    Reality

    Get real, ladies, and stop punching for men out of your ‘niche’ (league) because many men will use you when you attempt to– and will leverage your narcissistic desire of thinking of yourself as a ‘princess’ (lol) to their advantage, not yours.

    Many girls will choose an older, uglier man, in the belief that he is a safer longer term bet.

    Same problem, same fallacy. The guy who CAN pump and dump DOES. Women who choose a safer risk, therefore enable a different kind of guy to be able to do what the high ranking guy can.

    Seems to me, Reality, that you are just moralizing the whole game, finger wagging, and trying to shame the girls into fucking your type. And are you so confident that once you get plenty poon that you won’t turn to the dark side, and stop committing?

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  223. on April 18, 2011 at 1:06 pm Reality Check

    Seems to me, Reality, that you are just moralizing the whole game, finger wagging, and trying to shame the girls into fucking your type. And are you so confident that once you get plenty poon that you won’t turn to the dark side, and stop committing?

    x – i really just wanted to give DF a sorely needed reality check on her arrogant comment. Tis’ all.

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  224. on April 18, 2011 at 1:32 pm xsplat

    I see your point, Reality, but women also must be aware of guys like me.

    I play the bait and switch.

    At first I appear to be an easy target.

    If girls are birds, seeing me as an easy meal (ticket), then I am a helpless spider. A spider with a remarkably strong web and surprisingly intoxicating venom. I catch and eat birds.

    The hapless short guy may be just as predatory as the tall guy.

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  225. on April 18, 2011 at 4:09 pm DevastatinglyFemale

    [i]Well, that all depends on what men choose them back — that is, for anything other than a pump-n-dump.[/i]

    that doesn’t change anything. simply put – it’s easier to be a short woman than a short man, because of the available choices. i think the point of this entry was that even those short men among you all – have better chances when playing it right. but i don’t think it has ever been said that you can compete with anyone taller than you who does the same. or who ever pulled kim kardashian and eva langoria just proved the opposite. they are short, but they don’t want short men. end of story.

    and since we like to keep the things real here and that’s why i love this blog – a short man on dating market would have a similar value as a fat girl. yes, big can be beautiful blablabla…i’ve heard that one before. it doesn’t change the reality of things. call it arrogant or just adapt.

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  226. on April 18, 2011 at 4:25 pm xsplat

    a short man on dating market would have a similar value as a fat girl.

    Well that was a stupid thing to say. Do you even read this blog?

    You have no concept the hit a woman’s dating market value takes for being fat, and barely any clue as to what goes into a man’s market value.

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  227. on April 19, 2011 at 12:51 am DevastatinglyFemale

    i understand that evolutionary psychology and statistics are foreign concepts for you. but still, here is ‘a clue’ :
    >…Men lied more about their height, and women lied more about their weight…<

    http://www.bakadesuyo.com/how-much-do-people-lie-in-online-dating-profi

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  228. on April 19, 2011 at 1:57 am Jesua

    DevastatinglyFemale:

    Your misguided feminism is not welcome here.

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  229. on April 19, 2011 at 7:00 am Nicole

    DF, online dating statistics don’t count the same as real life interactions because it forces women to be as empirical as men. Looking at a person’s statistics, of course women are going to show bias for certain physical traits that indicate better genes or more masculinity.

    In real life though, shortness doesn’t mean a lot until a guy starts to be dwarfish short. If he’s below the line of vision, then he’ll have to do more to get attention, but then so would an incredibly short woman.

    He can easily compensate, as I’ve seen many a Mexican guy do, with being louder and more macho. Short women often compensate by wearing skimpier clothing or bigger hair.

    Still, most of a guy’s appeal is behavioral, while a woman’s is about the visuals.

    What matters about a guy’s appearance is the indicators of his behavioral type. A short guy’s disadvantage is that his size differential to females is less than a taller man. His height is essentially more feminine in proportion. So he has to compensate by being more masculine in behavior, dress, and if he can manage it, physical condition.

    There is a point, as there is with fat in women, where no matter what he does, the shortness will appear to be a defect. So few men fit into that range though, that this isn’t enough to use them as a gauge for how short men in general are treated or what their prospects are or would be if they had game.

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  230. on April 19, 2011 at 9:18 am DevastatinglyFemale

    Jesua:
    >Your misguided feminism is not welcome here.

    err…that’s not feminism, that’s just being a little taller than you.

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  231. on April 19, 2011 at 9:19 am DevastatinglyFemale

    Nicole:
    >He can easily compensate, as I’ve seen many a Mexican guy do, with being louder and more macho.

    now that’s easy! too bad it doesn’t really work outside mexican villages.

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  232. on April 20, 2011 at 2:23 am Nicole

    DF, you should really get out more. I’m not saying that as an insult. If you’ve never seen a short Mexican guy working his thing *especially* when he’s ethnically outnumbered, you are missing one of the great wonders of manhood. There’s a hole in your education.

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  233. on April 20, 2011 at 4:01 am Gorbachev

    Money isn’t that useful for game. A minimum is needed.

    Beyond that, … Nope.

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