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It’s Easier Picking Up Foreign Girls In Your Home Country

April 27, 2011 by CH

There is a phenomenon which I like to call Sex Mediated Differences in Travel Experiences. The theory accounts for the following real world observations:

– a woman is more likely to have a fling in a foreign country than at home

– a man is less likely to have a fling in a foreign country than at home

– a woman is less likely to have a fling with a foreign-born traveler in her home country

– a man is more likely to have a fling with a foreign-born traveler in his home country

For the typical woman, traveling abroad is basically an excuse to make dirty love with a dude who speaks broken English with an adorable cheese-grating accent. For the typical man, traveling abroad is a cultural awakening, since he won’t be spending much time banging foreign girls like he had hoped.

The science behind the Sex and Travel Theory is simple: women crave men higher in status than themselves, and territorial familiarity — or territorial mastery —  is one form of status signaling. A woman abroad — as long as she doesn’t restrict herself to expat communities — is surrounded by local men who know the land, the people and the language. By dint of their local knowledge and proficiency with the culture they become higher status than the traveling woman, no matter what her relative income or social status back home. As a result, the traveling woman is primed to perceive foreign men as higher status than herself, and thus more sexually attractive.

The traveling man, in contrast, will be perceived by local girls as having less status than themselves, simply by being a naif in a new land. This is especially true in countries where the women aren’t dirt poor or surrounded by drunkards and trying to win the green card lottery. (See: Any West European country.) Many men discover to their surprise that they have to work harder to pick up chicks in foreign countries than they do to pick up women in their own country.

At home, the scenario reverses polarity. A woman has less incentive to pursue a fling with a visiting foreigner because his baseline status as an outsider is lower than hers. He has no special knowledge of the land she lives in. But a man finds it easier to pursue flings with foreign girls in his own country because they now perceive his “home field advantage” status as higher than theirs.

Again, ask any man with experience in dating foreign girls and he will tell you scoring foreign chicks on his own turf is a breeze compared to scoring foreign chicks in their own countries. At home, he has an in-built status boost relative to visiting foreign girls, and this works to his advantage, even when he is not aware of it.

Caveats:

You still should have a working familiarity with some of the cultural and psychological differences between groups of foreign girls. A Russian is not a Czech. Although game principles are universal, there are some distinctive nuances separating the ethnicities.

The intrinsic advantage that you will have with a foreign girl on your home turf dissipates the longer she has been here, exposed to the rot of American feminism, consumerism and celebrity culture. This starry-eyed, zero-bitch shield period will be strongest when she’s fresh off the boat, and gradually diminish with time. If she’s fluent in English and from a Western nation, expect her disenchantment to emerge around month three. If she’s not fluent in English and she’s from Russia, Africa, Latin America or some parts of East Europe, expect the glow of automatic tingles whenever an American man talks to her to linger for two years.

You can do well overseas if a) you have game, hybrid vigor looks, and a decent command of the local language, or b) you leverage your “expert from afar” credentials. A man with some local knowledge, money, or international business interests can do well with foreign girls who, like all women, are attracted to the stranger who comes into town bearing gifts of mystery and allure.

If you are operating from your home country, don’t neg foreign chicks as much as you would American chicks. The language difficulties and tacit status differential are already enough negs for even the hottest foreign girls. Negs, sarcasm and teasing are often misconstrued by foreign girls as rejections.

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  1. on April 27, 2011 at 4:40 pm Nutz

    What you’re describing is at the crux of vacation mentality, when women on vacation, even in their own country, are more loose than they would be back home. Part of that is also less chance of being found out. See also: what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas.

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  2. on April 27, 2011 at 4:41 pm Jessica

    Tell that to Xsplat and the other expats who go looking for third-world women. They then pretend that those poverty stricken girls using them for cash is ‘game.’

    If you can’t hack it with women with options, you’re not fooling anybody.

    Lol.

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  3. on April 27, 2011 at 4:44 pm Anonymess

    Nutz said…

    What you’re describing is at the crux of vacation mentality, when women on vacation, even in their own country, are more loose than they would be back home. Part of that is also less chance of being found out.

    —————————-

    I see a lot of that here in Barbados.

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  4. on April 27, 2011 at 4:44 pm WhoreMonger69

    I LOVE traveling.

    But chasing women during a limited vacation is a huge waste of time.

    Fortunately, there are brothels all over the world, mostly legal, in almost every country except the USA.

    Everywhere I go in Europe, Asia, and South America, there are brothels and whores everywhere, and they are culturally and legally accepted.

    If you have the means to travel, you have the means to get your dick polished by a 18-year-old Ukrainian/Colombian/Brazilian/Chinese whore.

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  5. on April 27, 2011 at 4:45 pm Opus

    That is certainly true of women who travel (i.e. sex tourists).

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  6. on April 27, 2011 at 4:46 pm ?

    What’s the point of reading Game blogs if you never go out and practice it?

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  7. on April 27, 2011 at 4:49 pm xsplat

    The traveling man, in contrast, will be perceived by local girls as having less status than themselves, simply by being a naif in a new land.

    Man, did you ever fail with this post.

    As a travelling salesman I can tell you that being outside of your home turf gives you immediate major mojo boost. Women love to fuck the interloper.

    Fail.

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  8. on April 27, 2011 at 4:51 pm Dude Guy

    18th-Century European argument for keeping a few ho’s on the side:

    “Having multiple wives, says the polygamy defender, is “the only effectual remedy for the disorder of love and the only expedient for freeing men from that slavery to the females which the natural violence of our passion has imposed upon us.” It is by multiple partners alone — partners who can be used at will and played off one against the other — that “[we men] regain our right of sovereignty, and sating our appetite, reestablish the authority of reason in our minds, and, of consequence, our own authority in our families.”

    (This comes courtesy of David Hume’s writing in defense of monogamy….alas, even the greatest genius of the Enlightenment is still prey to all-too human mistakes).

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  9. on April 27, 2011 at 4:54 pm Jessica

    Out of curiosity, I need to ask the readers of this blog:

    What’s the point of reading Game blogs if you never go out and practice it?

    Do you think the girls will fall into your lap while sitting at the computer?

    Instead of all these elaborate Game strategies and techniques, have you thought about just going out there and TALKING to a real life woman?

    Just be yourself.

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  10. on April 27, 2011 at 4:56 pm Workshy Joe

    When I read the title of this post I immediately thought of Krauser picking up women in London.

    http://krauserpua.com/

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  11. on April 27, 2011 at 4:57 pm Hughman

    Agreed. I’ve already banged one Yank this year (I’m in the UK) Almost managed another before she left. Got 2 more in the pipeline. And I had a Finn 2 years ago. That’s a quarter of my lays (I’m 20 now)

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  12. on April 27, 2011 at 4:57 pm xsplat

    “Having multiple (women)… is the only effectual remedy for the disorder of love and the only expedient for freeing men from that slavery to the females… ”

    And yet the social conservative beta supporters will try to coerce you to lifetime monogamy in the name of bros before hos.

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  13. on April 27, 2011 at 4:58 pm jpirving

    So true. I am a yank living in Sweden and dont even both with natives. Fortunately there are plenty of foreign women here.

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  14. on April 27, 2011 at 4:58 pm Will

    I don’t have much experience with international travel, but have traveled a lot for work inside the US. There are a few things that I’ve used to reduce the status issues of being from out of town:

    * Your artificial time constraint isn’t artificial. There are often women looking for “something on the side” with “no strings attached.” Find them.

    * Mention that you “may return sometime” to help reduce the internal anti-slut defense and get that hamster running. And besides you might…

    * There are a host of really good websites like yelp.com which can help you find the best bars and restaurants. If part of the disadvantage of being from out of town is a lack of “Territory mastery” you can easily use technology to compensate.

    Best of luck!

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  15. on April 27, 2011 at 5:00 pm xsplat

    What TV show or movie was this line from – it stuck in my mind all these years;

    Women love to fuck foreigners, don’t they? It’s like travellin’, i’n’t it?

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  16. on April 27, 2011 at 5:05 pm B.S.

    @Jessica

    ‘Just be yourself’ is the kind of advice girls give sexless betas, right before they run off to the local alpha badboy’s place for an afternoon non-stop fuckfest.

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  17. on April 27, 2011 at 5:10 pm travelingguy

    This seems to be a case of theory clashing with reality. All things being equal, a girl will be much more attracted to the foreign guy.

    Peacock theory is standard in game. Being a foreigner is automatic peacocking. You’re not just another guy.

    Just being someone able to travel is a marker of high-status already.

    In the US, I’ve seen many occasions where a foreign guy with an accent enters the social scene, and the girls have a perceptible attraction.

    Now, if you’re bouncing around from city to city, and you can’t speak the language, I think your options are limited.

    I think the perfect mix is being a foreigner who has settled down to some extent: at least several months in a place, a swanky condo rental, a familiarity with the area. This is a setup I had fairly recently, and I was hot stuff. I’m now just hopping around, and life isn’t so hot. But soon I’ll be settling down again somewhere in Eastern Europe, it should be interesting.

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  18. on April 27, 2011 at 5:15 pm Cyning

    This is the field I have most experience in, really. First-hand and observational.

    Most of you have no idea how far knowing stuff about a country will get you with girls from that place.

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  19. on April 27, 2011 at 5:18 pm Rant Casey - BR

    Managed to pickup to american girls here in Brazil. It was too easy indeed.

    Unfortunately french girls dont come to where I live.

    For the typical woman, traveling abroad is basically an excuse to make dirty love with a dude who speaks broken English with an adorable cheese-grating accent.

    I sound more like a west african when I speak english. Still better than sounding mexican.

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  20. on April 27, 2011 at 5:19 pm matt

    two things.

    1. Girls don’t worry about appearing slutty when they are away. This has gotten me laid all too often, I knew this before I ever heard of game. The out of town girl is the shorest thing around.

    2. Being an outsider within your country has its advantages. When I used to travel for work I met many women for whom me not knowing their friends allowed me to slip past the slut defenses. I guess it helps the being in American, in America, and traveling for work, there are no status negatives.

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  21. on April 27, 2011 at 5:20 pm pfsm

    Interesting that this post came on the day Obama let loose of his birth certificate. Let’s see, dark handsome foreign stranger….

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  22. on April 27, 2011 at 5:22 pm Rant Casey - BR

    Being an outsider within your country has its advantages. When I used to travel for work I met many women for whom me not knowing their friends allowed me to slip past the slut defenses. I guess it helps the being in American, in America, and traveling for work, there are no status negatives.

    Yeah, I notice the same traveling within my country.

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  23. on April 27, 2011 at 5:24 pm Omega Man

    The important distinction is First vs. Third World; a First World man is a hot commodity in the Third. As far as “not knowing the territory” you should have some comfort with foreign places and speak a little of the langauge if possible. It’s time consuming, but can be a great adventure if you can swing it- see the “Naught Nomad”.

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  24. on April 27, 2011 at 5:35 pm spaceman

    Chateau/Roissy my dark lord and master,

    I respectfully have to disagree a bit with this, if your game is decent enough, travelling and banging in certain W. Europe Countries is money in the bank, I actually play up a bit that I am American, but I am not a typical white guy so perhaps that helps me.

    ” a man is less likely to have a fling in a foreign country than at home”

    This is false in my case, I have been living W. Europe for about 2 years and have been getting my flags left and right. Its a roll of the dice any night you go out, America or otherwise, but I have been getting alot of SNLs.

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  25. on April 27, 2011 at 5:56 pm GreenTea2

    Check out my newly accepted definition:
    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Fat%20American%20Cow

    Fat American Cow

    A typical obese American woman. Although obesity and American woman are almost interchangeable. Abbreviated FAC. Can be found eating, walking to and back from her car, watching Oprah, with other fat american cows and at Wal-mart. Can not be found: On running paths, gyms, swimming pools, the beach or at Whole Foods.

    “Man, I wish I lived in France were all the women are thin, this country has nothing but fat american cows now.”

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  26. on April 27, 2011 at 5:59 pm walawala

    In Asia there are some nuances.

    For a Western guy in Hong Kong or China, your chances of scoring are better if you have game, but you’re perceived of being higher value if you dress well and have a good job.

    If you can speak some Chinese you’ll do well, but don’t be fluent.

    In Hong Kong, if you’re western, you’ll also do well with Japanese and Korean and Singaporean girls because they’re also out of their element so will tend to be much more adventurous and open-minded than in their own countries where banging a foreigner would be frowned upon.

    In other words, you’re more mysterious and even perceived as being a bad boy raising your attractiveness to them.

    Game is vital. If you’re an English teacher, your value goes down. If you’re a banker, it goes up.

    If you have some mysterious type of job, or travel a lot, your value goes up. You seem mysterious and important.

    But…that only helps open the door and gain IOI’s….you need game to close the deal.

    If you’re moderately good looking but can increase your value by improving your moderate looks with exercise and dressing with greater confidence, game will put you in pussy heaven.

    I always did well here, but failed with some girls who were hotter and shit-tested.

    If you can pass most shit-tests and then display some vulnerability, you’re set in Asia.

    The exception…South Asian girls: Indonesian, Filipina, Thai women working as maids in Hong Kong and Asia….these women tend to be more mercenary and if you’re a poor sap who falls into the trap of playing by their rule and paying some type of “allowance”, tea money whatever….you’ll always be at the mercy of your own money.

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  27. on April 27, 2011 at 6:08 pm krauserpua

    Agreed and I’d add:

    – Always talk to these girls in English, even if you speak their language. It immediately sets the frame of you being a master in something they are working very hard to get better at = mastery of her world

    – So little social pressure on these girls when away from their home country. For example, it would be almost impossible to street game to bed a headscarf muslim in her home country but can (and indeed I have done) in your country

    – You are her link to the local culture. Most of these girls stay in either their own ex-pat ghetto or the English-school foreigners ghetto. You are her ticket out.

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  28. on April 27, 2011 at 6:10 pm singlewhitealcoholicseekssame

    Got to say, the level of anti-Americanism here almost competes with a terrorist website. I’d love to see how fit all these posters are who are ragging on American women.

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  29. on April 27, 2011 at 6:28 pm Joe Alpha

    I have had empirical evidence with this one gentlemen.

    Back when I was in High School, I LOVED the foreign exchange students. I dated every one of them, and this is WAY before I learned anything about game. In fact, I would have to say that I preferred them for some reason- it was easier for some reason.

    Not that I didn’t date my American Classmates, but the foreign girls were relatively easy. There was the French girl (I can’t remember her name) the hot chick from Germany (Yvonne) and the blond from Hungary, Csilla, who I still talk to to this day 10 years later! Oh Csilla! The best part was that they all went back at the end of the year, so no strings

    I moved to Italy for a few years to teach English after college, expecting my luck with the Italian girls to match that of the foreign exchange students that I dated in High School a few years before. What I found, again, was something different than I had expected- I started gaming the other girls in my Italian classes, The Austrians, the Germans, the Australians, etc (with a great deal of luck, since they were foreign, and I was picking up Italian) but I kept striking out on the Italians! And badly at that! And man, can they shoot you down!

    I was learning Italian the whole first year I was there, and even by the end of my third or fourth year, I had successfully gamed only one Italian girl. (But again, quality my friends).

    I figured this out early on, and focused my efforts on the visiting American girls (which were SUPER easy over there compared to back in the States), and the other foreign girls, because after a few months I had an expertise of the city and the language- I once met a couple of women from Boston, helped them with an ATM, and they thanked me by inviting me back with them for dessert at the Grand Hotel in Rome…

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  30. on April 27, 2011 at 6:33 pm Joe Alpha

    One addition to my comment above, I said, I only gamed one Italian girl in my years there, which is true in Italy. When I traveled to other countries (Ireland, Germany, etc) it was VERY easy to pick up Italian women, since I spoke their language in a foreign country… didn’t think about that until I hit send.

    Happy hunting, Brother Alphas!

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  31. on April 27, 2011 at 7:08 pm kaikou

    This post is stupid. It is obviously a shaming issue. Women in foreign country won’t be shamed.

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  32. on April 27, 2011 at 7:16 pm blert

    The best action is had in Honolulu with visiting Japanese babes.

    No Christian hang-ups and primed to hook-up.

    However, they don’t normally like to fly solo…

    So you’ll have to tolerate three-ways with virgins in their hotel room.

    Just so that they can stay safe.

    Leave your money at home.

    The gals have brought plenty.

    A smattering of Japanese is helpful but unnecessary since English is taught to every Japanese student.

    The word has gotten out as to size… so don’t disappoint.

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  33. on April 27, 2011 at 7:19 pm Horace

    >What TV show or movie was this line from – it stuck in my >mind all these years;
    >
    >Women love to fuck foreigners, don’t they? It’s like >travellin’, i’n’t it

    Gorky Park.

    also walawala, why would speaking chinese too well hurt your chances in China ?

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  34. on April 27, 2011 at 7:23 pm Doug1

    Walawala-

    Are you an Aussie?

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  35. on April 27, 2011 at 7:23 pm Lara

    This makes sense. The best times I’ve ever had with men were in places he was familiar with and I wasn’t and he showed me around. It does make him seem more high status and attractive. I have a feeling women remember these times more than any others.
    Anytime I’ve traveled the men in those places have always seemed more appealing than the same old ones at home.

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  36. on April 27, 2011 at 7:29 pm Miley_Cyrax

    Where do young foreign chicks hang out when they visit NYC? I don’t run into them much at night.

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  37. on April 27, 2011 at 7:32 pm AssNeck

    Jessica writes:

    “Out of curiosity, I need to ask the readers of this blog:

    What’s the point of reading Game blogs if you never go out and practice it?

    Do you think the girls will fall into your lap while sitting at the computer?

    Instead of all these elaborate Game strategies and techniques, have you thought about just going out there and TALKING to a real life woman?

    Just be yourself.”

    OK – you guys need to lock your computers. Someone’s little sister found the site when you were away and decided to offer the sage advice she learned from a Justin Beiber song.

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  38. on April 27, 2011 at 7:33 pm AssNeck

    By the way, I clean up in northern England. The old mill towns outside Liverpool and Manchester are a gold mine.

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  39. on April 27, 2011 at 8:14 pm Anton

    Dammit, Lara, you’re always so fucking sensible. Are you a guy?

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  40. on April 27, 2011 at 8:30 pm walawala

    @Horace

    Speaking too much Chinese means you’re more localized, so not quite as “exotic”…or foreign. Lower value, local guys speak Chinese, no point of difference.

    Speak it, don’t over-emphasize it.

    Doug1: no, not Aussie.

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  41. on April 27, 2011 at 8:33 pm Anonymous

    i knew a guy in the airforce who was stationed in japan. he would always say how easy it was to get japanese girls if you were an american in the military or whatever. all you would have to do is go out and say a few words to them in broken japanese and boom they cling to you like dirt on a swiffer. in fact he met his wife this way. how do you explain this anomaly?

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  42. on April 27, 2011 at 8:52 pm Tim

    I spent time in Japan and pulled mad pussy there. I’ve got a friend in Korea and another in China and they’re banging broads left and right. If you’re a white man overseas, pulling poon is a piece of cake.

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  43. on April 27, 2011 at 9:02 pm scott88

    hey guys, need txt advice:

    me: Remember when i peed on u
    her: No lol wait in the shower?
    me: 😉
    her: Lmao why were you even remembering that lol
    me: Best shower moment
    her: Hahaha that was terrible. I hate you
    me: 8=====D
    her: Thats a little long for u :p
    me: Ah shucks
    her: Lol ok elmer fudd

    fucked her before but haven’t in a while. she’s fucking some other dude right now. i think the “ah shucks” reply was not optimal.

    yes, i’m hijacking thread. ignore if you mind that

    [Editor: It was good up until the aw shucks. “i don’t remember you complaining” might have been better, since this is a girl you’ve already banged.]

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  44. on April 27, 2011 at 9:04 pm julian

    as a man who lives in a college town and frequents the foreign exchange coffeeshop on campus this post is spot on.

    however, i only target the foreign chicks simply because they are of higher quality in comparison to american women 99% of the time. the status differential just ends up being the cherry on top.

    in fact, even if i was on level playing field, sheez, even if i was on a negative playing field, i would rather work harder and improve my game to seduce foreign chicks than spend time with 99% of american women. real talk.

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  45. on April 27, 2011 at 9:06 pm Thwack

    on April 27, 2011 at 6:10 pm singlewhitealcoholicseekssame
    Got to say, the level of anti-Americanism here almost competes with a terrorist website. I’d love to see how fit all these posters are who are ragging on American women.

    Nigga pahleeeez

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  46. on April 27, 2011 at 9:13 pm SpankIt

    Sidenote:

    Most backpacker dudes I’ve come across are hopeless betas with depressing body-language. I’ve had great success here.

    Story might be different if I was hitting capital cities, swanky clubs. But then speaking 6 languages usually gets me laid.

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  47. on April 27, 2011 at 9:29 pm beta_plus

    I hope rooshv makes a guest appearance. I am genuinely curious to find out if he agrees, disagrees, or is somewhere in the middle*.

    * then again, with all of the guest appearances on this blog, maybe he wrote this entry

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  48. on April 27, 2011 at 9:40 pm Dan

    Trolls out in full force today.

    Any advice for someone traveling to Barcelona, Spain for a week?

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  49. on April 27, 2011 at 10:04 pm dreamer

    Women traveling abroad are more vulnerable, period.

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  50. on April 27, 2011 at 10:14 pm xsplat

    Yes, women away from their home base are more vulnerable. Even a girl moving to the big city to attend college is an easier target than the same girl living in her home town.

    The only thing amiss with this post is it gets backwards mens out of town advantage. Men have an advantage when travelling, not a disadvantage.

    Comparing a man staying in his home town gaming a travelling man gaming a home town girl, the stay at home guy should have the advantage.

    But compare both guys gaming a home town girl, and the out of town guy has the advantage. If for no other reason that breaking the ASD.

    Same reason for both advantages. When one of two parties is from out of town, her reputation won’t follow her around about whatever happens next.

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  51. on April 27, 2011 at 10:35 pm Thwack

    Tim
    If you’re a white man overseas, pulling poon is a piece of cake.

    You better fix that ozone hole that you fucked up.

    *white man*

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  52. on April 27, 2011 at 10:43 pm xsplat

    It’s also a reasonable hypothesis to consider that women prefer to fuck interlopers, as those that did got fresh fit genes into the small inbred tribe.

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  53. on April 28, 2011 at 12:02 am Miley_Cyrax

    @xsplat

    “It’s also a reasonable hypothesis to consider that women prefer to fuck interlopers, as those that did got fresh fit genes into the small inbred tribe.”

    Ah, the Wandering Nomad Hypothesis, nice to see you again.

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  54. on April 28, 2011 at 12:05 am n/a

    Lara is the best female commenter because she never censors herself and just speaks from the depths of the pussymind.

    She is the distilled femme.

    And every once in a while one gets the urge to thank her by bending her over the minivan.

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  55. on April 28, 2011 at 12:07 am Xamuel

    I never even realized men are supposed to have a harder time scoring in foreign countries. Makes me feel a bit better about the month I spent in Japan and only hooked up with one girl 😛

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  56. on April 28, 2011 at 12:44 am Horace

    Walawala,

    actually I heard the same in Thailand. Or was it the Czech republic ? Guys who speak the local language too well know too much. Act innocent.

    A lot of what Roissy says would not work there.

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  57. on April 28, 2011 at 12:55 am LaughOrCry

    “Just be yourself”

    My theory on why women say this is that women think that all guys are naturally alpha just by virtue of being a guy (I’ve had women say as much), and that if a guy behaves beta it’s because he’s putting on an act for the purposes of manipulation (good ol’ fashioned projection) – which of course puts her on the defensive.

    So in this theory, “just be yourself” means “act alpha, the way women expect you to act”.

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  58. on April 28, 2011 at 12:59 am Zoo

    When I was stationed in Germany I (and any other american dude with game) had the local women in line to see us while the American women stationed over there refused to date German guys.

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  59. on April 28, 2011 at 1:01 am Carmo

    What if the girl has been living in host country for an adequate period of time for her to become familiarized with the lay of the land and has come up for air from the sleu of strange cock she has just worked through? She may then view her status equal if not greater than the Avg local guy for the simple fact that achievement(making a life as an expat female) builds confidence and a greater feeling of self worth.

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  60. on April 28, 2011 at 1:03 am Mazrim

    One of the best ways to pull off the foreigner in your own country vibe is to move…a lot. I’ve moved 8 times in the last decade, and pretty much live in a foreigner state of mind. Even in my own town I’m still an outsider (and I never stay long enough to lose that status).

    As far as foreign women in your country is concerned, the ultimate shield dropper is knowing just a few phrases of her language, if and only if her language is not common. She ain’t gonna be impressed that you can speak Spanish, hell it is damn near the primary language here in Florida. But if you can crank out one or two decent sentences in her less-common language (Hungarian, Czech, etc), you can see the shields drop as her eyes widen.

    I happened to be at a party and found myself in a group with a good-looking Armenian gal. I knew a few phrases, but kept my mouth shut and spoke only in English while we were in the group. When the group began to disperse, I decided to leave and meet some friends for drinks. Passing the Armenian gal, I said the only phrase in Armenian I knew that didn’t involve insulting someone’s mother: “nice meeting you” and walked out. Not exactly a show stopper phrase, but I picked it up when I had dinner with a buddy and his family. She chased me down in the parking lot, and I never did get around to meeting up with my friends. One part knowing a lame sentence in her language, one part being smart enough to wait until the right time to bust it out.

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  61. on April 28, 2011 at 1:18 am Art

    Nothing could be closer to this empirical truth. I was met with this harsh when I traveled to Central America. The immense quantities of foreign girls that I had expected to be half in love with upon first site where non existent.

    Your greatest bet for scoring with a native in your country of travel is as Roissy says: good game coupled with a grasp of the local language.

    To add onto Roissy’s post for those looking to score poon in the midst of travel, stick to girls that are in the same position as you; other travelers. You will automatically have something in common with them, and an infinite amount of potential conversation to stray off on. In place of status show an enthusiastic sense of adventurism to display value.

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  62. on April 28, 2011 at 1:33 am senseiern

    And whatever else you do, be careful banging foreign chicks in a hostel, else you might end up being tortured to death in some abandoned Romanian factory.

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  63. on April 28, 2011 at 1:47 am al'Thor

    What are the best places around the world for girls who have decided they are going to expand their horizons, a place a girl’s inner slut can celebrated?

    Hawaii is good for Japanese girls..maybe Bali..? I would think the Caribbean would be good but have never been and there are many different islands?

    Probably Southern Europe in the winter if you are in Europe. But where?

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  64. on April 28, 2011 at 2:13 am walawala

    @Horace

    I understand Chinese quite well, though my spoken ability is spotty. I can pull it off.

    But what amazes many girls and gets the gina tingles is if a girl gets on the phone with her mother and starts chit-chatting about Sunday’s brunch. I ask her a follow up question and she says “Wow, how did you know what I said?”

    Me: “I know everything…”

    Also, if you know slang it’s good.

    But honestly many Chinese girls feel speaking Chinese is low-brow. That’s not a put-down, they feel it’s kind of beneath them and so speaking English frees them up to be more bold, more outgoing than they would with local guys.

    It’s a way of DHVing a girl if you know some of their language. But oddly enough, if you know ANOTHER language other than Chinese and can speak it…French, Spanish, Japanese, that’s another DHV.

    Status if everything in Hong Kong and remember that until about the last 6 year years Chinese people didn’t travel or have the money to study abroad, so they’re only now discovering the world and banging a foreign guy is part of their discovery.

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  65. on April 28, 2011 at 3:09 am Tacomaster

    I’ve had good experiences with European women overseas on their home turf most notably the British Isles and Germany. In Scotland I was approached by a girl’s soccer team who “loved my American accent”. I have a hiking bag with patches of all the countries I’ve been to sewn on it. This has helped start up conversations with women. The best place I’ve been is Germany, had a lot of good times there and the women are very into Americans.
    Good rules are: stay in good hotels like Hilton because you can meet foreigners in the hotel bar or local eateries. Don’t rent a car–you can meet so many young, hot women on the subway and trains.

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  66. on April 28, 2011 at 3:11 am Rum

    Dolly Rebecca Parton may be 110 tears old. Maybe her tits hang down past her navel.
    If yu dont get why she deserves a sincere deep fuck
    hand in yur mancard..

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  67. on April 28, 2011 at 3:18 am Tacomaster

    The only thing that sucks about travelling elsewhere is that you eventually have to come back to the States and see all these land cows. Europe and Asia are full of women-thin, healthy (from all the walking), LONG hair (not that porcupine Kate Gosslet bullshit) and are fun to be around (don’t seem to nag and shit test as much). When I got back from Europe this last time I experienced culture shock. I never realized how many below average overweight women we have in this country.

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  68. on April 28, 2011 at 3:41 am Anonymous

    I noticed when traveling Cancun (where basically everyone’s a tourist), and this is before I knew much about game, I would approach with a question, the english speaking girls immediately got their bitch shields up while the girls who didn’t speak english well didn’t… the ‘esl’ girls don’t perceive the question on the same way the english speaking girls do… I’ve since changed to approaching with cocky statements for the english girls to respond to, huge difference, but that statement may not be appreciated by the foreign girl who can’t decipher it… so krauser’s “how’s your english?” is a GREAT opener to know which line to use, cocky statement, or basic question… and if you think the girl’s english, use ‘como esta tu ingles?’, if she doesn’t speak spanish (well) your value goes up.

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  69. on April 28, 2011 at 5:05 am K-Man

    Very true.
    I’ve banged many Russian girls in DC – mostly summer work-travel students and au-pairs – and several in the beach resorts in Turkey and Bulgaria, where they go on summer vacation.
    But from friends that have been to the source – Russia – I heard it was not that easy. They spent major cash and were hardly successful.

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  70. on April 28, 2011 at 5:05 am Retsie

    I’ve always said the only reason nice girls go overseas is so they can have their guts fucked out, come home and still be seen as nice girls.

    It’s the ultimate anti-slut defence.

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  71. on April 28, 2011 at 5:27 am Moron

    “Many men discover to their surprise that they have to work harder to pick up chicks in foreign countries than they do to pick up women in their own country.”

    Bullshit. I get laid way more when I’m traveling abroad than in my own country. In fact, getting laid abroad is easy as hell, especially if you’re a white guy in Asia or something like that. All you have to do is show up and you can’t get rid of all the chicks (and I’m not talking about prostitutes). They’re just normal girls who want to bang a foreigner.

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  72. on April 28, 2011 at 6:12 am DEI

    I’m going to have to disagree with this, I’ve had plenty of success in foreign affluent countries, probably more than I had at home, and I’m sure that just ‘being the foreign guy’ helped me a lot.

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  73. on April 28, 2011 at 6:36 am Deutsch

    I just returned home from a week in Prague yesterday. Couldn’t agree more with this post.

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  74. on April 28, 2011 at 6:48 am Art

    @senseiern

    Actually, a hostile is pretty much your golden token for sex while traveling. I would say that up to 80% of the girls I was able to hook up with while traveling I met in the hostile I was staying at; of course I was exploiting a niche as well. Those who hostile tend to be on the younger side; thus being more adventurous and having less money. Stature is not as important to this demographic, being fun is. The factor of abduction pries its way into the risk of travel under any circumstances.

    The only real problem with hostile sex is finding a location, as it is a hostile where privacy does not exist.

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  75. on April 28, 2011 at 6:55 am al'Thor

    I think you meant hostel. But then again, you can get some hostile sex in a hostel.

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  76. on April 28, 2011 at 7:29 am French Connection

    I’m partly in the disagreeing camp too, I have way more success with girls when I travel than when I stay in my home country.

    That said, my two rules of thumb are:

    -Girls traveling are way easier than local girls

    -A western (white) male is a highly desired commodity outside of his natural habitat.

    And seriously, what is up with all the guest posters and new commenters???

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  77. on April 28, 2011 at 7:31 am French Connection

    @ Art

    I worked in a hostel (abroad) for 3 months last year. A little creativity (and perhaps some drinks too) gets you a long way 😉

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  78. on April 28, 2011 at 8:07 am Anonymous

    Meanwhile Prince Beta has apparently agreed on his English feminist bride not saying she’ll “obey” him when he marries her tomorrow:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1381407/Royal-Wedding-Kate-Middleton-arrives-Westminster-Abbey-final-rehearsal.html

    Just like Diana did (refusal to say “obey”) and then later conceived Harry with another man (not Prince Charles).

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  79. on April 28, 2011 at 8:51 am Lara

    Men are most attractive in their element. As dreamer says, a woman traveling abroad is more vulnerable and that makes her more attractive.

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  80. on April 28, 2011 at 8:57 am Lara

    xsplat,
    If you brought one of your girlfriends back to The States for a visit I’m guessing she would really enjoy that.

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  81. on April 28, 2011 at 9:21 am Peter A

    “In the US, I’ve seen many occasions where a foreign guy with an accent enters the social scene, and the girls have a perceptible attraction.”

    Sure, the element that Chateau is missing is that countries have status, and your nationality is a signal. The higher status your country is probably the better off you are staying home, oddly. An American in England is viewed by smart Brits as an odd duck or possibly an out and out loser – why would anyone leave America? An Englishman in America is signaling that he’s more ambitious than the typical lazy Brit. Americans in lower status countries like Russia delude themselves into thinking they’ve got game, when they are often just being exploited by Russian girls who want their money and/or a green card. If you want to meet a Russian girl you can trust look for one in the US.

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  82. on April 28, 2011 at 10:25 am travelingguy

    “Sure, the element that Chateau is missing is that countries have status, and your nationality is a signal. The higher status your country is probably the better off you are staying home, oddly. An American in England is viewed by smart Brits as an odd duck or possibly an out and out loser – why would anyone leave America? An Englishman in America is signaling that he’s more ambitious than the typical lazy Brit. Americans in lower status countries like Russia delude themselves into thinking they’ve got game, when they are often just being exploited by Russian girls who want their money and/or a green card. If you want to meet a Russian girl you can trust look for one in the US.”

    I wasn’t aware that America has a significant status lead over England, if any.

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  83. on April 28, 2011 at 10:38 am Jerry

    Wrong Peter. You’ve taken basically the American feminist POV there. Jessica above would agree with you. So would the gals at the NOW.

    Russia is not a “lower status country”. They certainly don’t see themselves that way, which is what you just tried to say. They just celebrated the 50th anniversary of being the first in space.

    99% of Russian women are not looking for any green card in the US. Especially the best and brightest. That’s a combination of feminist drivel and the result of marketing the kind of long-distance dating services where the profits come from the fact that most men won’t really travel and find out that half the women in their database don’t exist nor are interested.

    Also, to the OP, no white country has “drunkards” as the primary male competition anymore. A higher percentage of Russian males are alpha compared to the percentage of alphas among American males. Slavic men make brutal competition.

    Moscow girls often have families who own apartments more valuable than most American families have in real estate. In any event, you have to have more game to pursue Russian women in their home environment than you need to pursue American women in their home environment.

    Same goes for all EE countries.

    It’s just that non-feminist women are worth pursuing more, regardless.

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  84. on April 28, 2011 at 10:42 am Jerry

    The above article seems to be an exercise in dealing with “cognitive dissonance” – probably because the OP can’t move out of the feminist matrix of the US in the foreseeable future because of a career issue.

    That said, dating foreign women, especially foreign exchange students, while living inside the USA is a very good idea and the post is correct about that.

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  85. on April 28, 2011 at 10:42 am chi-town

    The direction of status is a function of time. A foreign man who has establishment in the new area has much more chick magnet potential. The first week you are there unsure, fearful and bug eyed is probably less so. Thus once a foreign man creates a beach head of local familiarity, he has an advantage(all things being equal).

    Bear in mind however that many local populations of women in the West are so butch and fat, that men may confound their new abilities with the quality of the local women. Such a man may think he is going from 5s to 7s on his own steam when in fact its just that the fishery has been better maintained to prohibit feminist fatillas who empty their ballasts of boobs and fell the leggy forest until they leave no wood.

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  86. on April 28, 2011 at 10:50 am Begby

    somebody better tell Roosh

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  87. on April 28, 2011 at 10:51 am Jerry

    @Chi-town

    Good point there as well. Peter A could have just said that “Americans who go to Russia might think they’re alphas but they’re really just encountering a higher ratio of attractive women.”

    I wouldn’t argue with that.

    Only an idiot would spend much time where the ratio of women to men is lower than 1.1 to 1.0 and the percentage of fatties is high.

    It’s not as if the guys reading this thread have more than one life to live.

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  88. on April 28, 2011 at 10:55 am pimpan

    This post fails because it assumes the number of opportunities at home and abroad are equal. They’re not. Even though you may have better chances with 100% of the foreign girls in your city, if you have a good chance with 10% of the women in their city, it might be 100,000 vs. 5,000. At home, you’re also competing for the same group of foreign girls, and they have lots of choices. Abroad, you’re in short supply.

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  89. on April 28, 2011 at 11:17 am itsme

    Do you think the girls will fall into your lap while sitting at the computer?

    Instead of all these elaborate Game strategies and techniques, have you thought about just going out there and TALKING to a real life woman?

    nah…not when game blogs attract such fine specimens of womanhood such as yourself.

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  90. on April 28, 2011 at 11:29 am Chicago

    Hey,

    If you support college youngsters deserving justice in Universities and not being able to be kicked out as a result of an FRA, sign this petition http://www.change.org/petitions/reject-the-proposed-save-act-absent-amendments-to-protect-the-presumptively-innocent/share?new_member=true#via-facebook

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  91. on April 28, 2011 at 11:37 am spinaroonie

    Roosh wept.

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  92. on April 28, 2011 at 11:45 am David Rockefeller

    I never heard that men do better with girls if they have the home field advantage.

    Kind of like the old advice that if you go to bars to meet girls, you’ll do better if you go to a bar where you’re a regular.

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  93. on April 28, 2011 at 12:44 pm LOL

    ‘not that porcupine Kate Gosslet bullshit’

    hahaha. like a cross between kate gosselin and piglet?

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  94. on April 28, 2011 at 1:07 pm itsme

    http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2011/04/28/2011-04-28_message_clear_im_sweet_on_ya_brits_note_aims_to_rekindle_frozen_yogurt_chitchat.html

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  95. on April 28, 2011 at 2:04 pm Obstinance Works

    “And yet the social conservative beta supporters will try to coerce you to lifetime monogamy in the name of bros before hos.”

    I never got that bros before hos thing. There must be an underlying homo theme in there I never got; just like I never understood why a straight male would want to either subject himself to a gangbang with 2 or more men on a girl or why a straight male would want to swap his wife out and let another man bang his wife just so he could bang the other guy’s wife. Just too homo for me I guess.

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  96. on April 28, 2011 at 2:21 pm Crystal

    Let’s examine first two statements in regards of my country (China).

    First statement: “a woman is more likely to have a fling abroad than at home” –> ABSOLUTELY WRONG (white women expats in China are not approached neither by local Chinese guys – who are somewhat shy, nor by expat males who spend time flirting with local girls)

    Second statement: “a man is less likely to have a fling in a foreign country than at home” –> ABSOLUTELY WRONG – won’t even elaborate on that (google for “Charisma Man” – though this is cartoon about Japan, but same things apply to China as well)

    And those who are interested in East-West romantic relationships, let me invite to my blog –>
    http://www.lovelovechina.com

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  97. on April 28, 2011 at 2:31 pm Firepower

    Crystal

    Let’s examine first two statements in regards of my country (China).

    is it true, that if i post on your blog and mention certain forbidden words, they (you know who) will come and arrest you? i want to be careful

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  98. on April 28, 2011 at 2:48 pm xsplat

    I never got that bros before hos thing.

    Me neither. I’m more of an all’s fair in love and war kind of guy.

    An xsplat original insight is that some men are predisposed to band together to further their mutual sexual interest. You’ll find gaggles of them on this very comment board.

    They further the beta-provider aims and strategies by promoting lifetime monogamy. This helps those with less charisma secure to at least secure some sort of woman, and in a stable relationship.

    The irritating thing is how blinkered these men are. Their worldview becomes some just moral crusade.

    What’s even funnier is how todays sexual losers try to re-draw the boundaries of success such that actually they are the valiant true warriors in a land of blind fools who can’t see or value their true worth.

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  99. on April 28, 2011 at 2:50 pm Gorbachev

    I disagreed with this wholesale until CR got to this point, at which he redeemed himself:

    b) you leverage your “expert from afar” credentials. A man with some local knowledge, money, or international business interests can do well with foreign girls who, like all women, are attracted to the stranger who comes into town bearing gifts of mystery and allure.

    If you are operating from your home country, don’t neg foreign chicks as much as you would American chicks. The language difficulties and tacit status differential are already enough negs for even the hottest foreign girls. Negs, sarcasm and teasing are often misconstrued by foreign girls as rejections.

    Pretty much sums it up. Note that B) can so overwhelm any disadvantage as to make it irrelevant. Or hide it completely.

    Add in some interesting international connections and some International man of Mystery (and, frankly, pretty much anyone can get away with this if you’re clever enough) and going abroad becomes a gargantuan advantage.

    Picking up women becomes almost uninteresting, it’s so damned easy. Going home is kinda painful.

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  100. on April 28, 2011 at 2:51 pm Obstinance Works

    “They further the beta-provider aims and strategies by promoting lifetime monogamy. This helps those with less charisma secure to at least secure some sort of woman, and in a stable relationship.”

    When I was a boy growing up here in the USA, married men seemed much more manly than today. Now, most married men I see seem kinda gay. They act like they are so damn lucky to be married. I see them as afraid of risk, and life in general–beat-down wimps.

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  101. on April 28, 2011 at 2:53 pm xsplat

    Look at me! I’m a provider!

    I’m such a contributor to society, working in this widget factory producing mantle pieces. I further consumerism, and that helps the GDP!

    Bloody underwear heros. If only Lois Lane could appreciate them for who the really are!

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  102. on April 28, 2011 at 2:53 pm Obstinance Works

    Crystal is one of the very few Asians I would consider hot. There you go girl, big ego boost today.

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  103. on April 28, 2011 at 2:55 pm Obstinance Works

    Look at me the soldier getting shot at by the very people we came here to rescue and die for. At least Donald Trump wants them to pay the USA back something for all the trouble.

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  104. on April 28, 2011 at 3:03 pm templar knight

    There is much truth in this article, roissy. My youngest son lives in Washington, D.C., and he and his friends seek out foreign women when on the prowl. Particularly women from Brazil, which he says are head and shoulders above American women, especially the ball-busting lawyer types who inhabit our capitol.

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  105. on April 28, 2011 at 7:55 pm John smith

    I’ve travelled a bit. Here’s my take (non white American):

    SE Asia: easier, but not as easy as it was for white guys

    south America: doable, with game and Spanish ability. Not easier than us.

    Mexico: much easier than us but I was living there

    Italy, France, Spain: zero success

    In summary, roissy’s post needs sone work. What matters is:

    1) your race
    2) the average income of the city you are in
    3) how high status the us is in that city
    4) why you are there (international
    man of mystery or sex tourist?)
    5) knowledge of the language

    and other factors.

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  106. on April 29, 2011 at 1:56 am Powers

    You can also apply this theory to any situation where you have mastery and she does not. A party, a bar, mini-golf, whatever. Bring her into environments where you have mastery and don’t go into environments where she has mastery over you. You can demonstrate territorial mastery to any girl.

    P.S. I’ve got a blog now http://alphapowers.tumblr.com

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  107. on April 29, 2011 at 7:14 am Lupo Leboucher

    When traveling abroad:
    1) If you’re in Europe, wear a suit.
    2) If you’re in Asia, be tall or have muscles. Also, wear a suit.

    Suits convey James Bondian mystery and power to Europeans; especially foreigners in suits. Any white dude who can’t get laid in Asia is retarded. Other angle: fuck other tourists. It’s easy. You’ll see lots in the tourist locations.

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  108. on April 29, 2011 at 11:00 am Forgot

    What about say Ibiza where you’ll meet foreigners and your both in a foreign environment

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  109. on April 29, 2011 at 11:12 am Mukluk

    This is an interesting topic to discuss, but there’s very little prescriptive takeaway. At the end of the day you have to live your life, and you just gotta hit on the chicks you happen to encounter in that life.

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  110. on April 29, 2011 at 11:25 am Peter A

    “Russia is not a “lower status country”. ”

    Ha! Ty durak, chto li? Have you ever been to any part of Russia outside Moscow ? It’s a low status country in every aspect, and every Russian knows it. How many foreigners, other than Uzbeks and other chernozhopy, bust their ass trying to go to Russia to make their fortunes? How many Chinese or Koreans want to do their higher education at the business schools of Novosibirsk or Moscow State? The USA is still the alpha male of countries, and every foreigner knows it, especially the English. Sure, the USA is a country in long-term decline but there’s still no real competition. Certainly not Russia, the country that has become the old syphilitic drunk in the corner of the bar boasting how he used to be a contender. In Germany Russians are considered the lowest scum, even worse than Turks, and that’s not an accident. Still, your point that within the small confines of elite Muscovite social circles being American no longer carries any clout, and can even be a detriment – that is very true. But that also relates to the fact that elite Muscovites assume that any American working in Russia is a loser who couldn’t make it at home. Because Chinese women are proud of their country, they are less likely to assume that an American abroad is a failure – they assume smart Americans want to be where the action is, and there is clearly a lot of economic potential in China.

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  111. on April 29, 2011 at 11:52 am Jerry

    @Peter

    You have some kind of chip on your shoulder about Russians and US expats.

    Germans think of rich Russians as highly welcome (especially in the Baden Baden area). Otherwise, German women long ago (think the Nuernberg Law era) tried to convince their men, like US feminists have recently been doing, to try to ignore the concentrated beauty of slavic women.

    It’s not working very well. The richest and most alpha of German men head east for hot young girlfriends.

    There was a reason why it was considered a capital offense to fuck Russian women in the time of National Sozialismus and it wasn’t really because of racism, but because German Nazi women wanted to limit their men’s options. The Nazi men, like too many WN men today, were told to think tribally by their women.

    In Moscow today, nobody thinks of the rare American male as a “loser” for being there. Not at all. But he better fit in and have intrinsic status because the locals consider themselves to be the capital of a superpower. Plus he can’t be beta because there are more Russian alpha males to compete with than American alpha males in the US.

    In the countryside a US expat is very likely to find a lot of dumb women who wouldn’t be smart enough to try to land a foreigner but, instead, are looking for someone of their own class and eduction claiming “nationalism” as a reason to choose their own kind. The atmosphere is far from one where most attractive women are selling themselves to foreigners.

    That part of the world is still be worth it because of the occasional non-feminist gem: a high IQ, beautiful young woman raised without feminism.

    Your sentiment on “losers” as expats fits purely with US feminist wishful thinking.

    One has to ask what the chip on your shoulder is.

    Is your mortgage underwater?

    There’s no reason to take a hostile feminist point of view.

    One can wait in DC for the occasional exchange student to show up, but the concentration of beauties in Russia and EE is at its highest on their home ground. While one can discuss the finer points of this matter, it’s no reason to go hostile on those who choose not to live in the western feminist matrix.

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  112. on April 29, 2011 at 11:58 am Jerry

    I’ve already noted that the host clearly can’t leave the US for various reasons and the post was made because of cognitive dissonance in this regard.

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  113. on April 29, 2011 at 12:01 pm Jerry

    @Peter

    It’s possible that you went to Russia as an English teacher in which case you would have been instantly branded a loser.

    There’s almost no respect for that profession in most countries.

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  114. on April 29, 2011 at 12:31 pm chi-town

    Russia is not a low status country. I would not call it high status either. Beats the hell out of Sudan. I would much rather be there than India. Compares rather well to Latin America as well. Britain does not seem to be widening the gap with anyone since they seem more 3rd world every day. Don’t forget the EU PIIGS. I mean lets face it that Germanic culture and its colonies had been in a class by itself for some time. Civilization was built with Britain, France and Germany since the fall of Rome. Put a few generations of Bolsheviks in Italy and Spain with no help from the West, let alone hostility, and you’d get the likes of Russia.

    That aside, a superior civilization does not mean you have superior individuals. Brain washed worker drones can make really great societies to live in, but I can only admire so much about an ant.

    There are some really hot and feminine women in Russia. Do you need a nice little strip mall with a cash machine, a pizza place and a coffee shop with wireless to make this work for ya?

    It is true that Russian women are not loyal to losers. Is that supposed to be a bad thing or something? Do I really want my Russian to already be hooked up with a dumb ass rather than to have waited patiently for the likes of me?

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  115. on April 29, 2011 at 1:18 pm Jerry

    The bottom line is that one should live where there is a high concentration of female beauty and IQ.

    All other considerations are rationalizations by men for choosing to live in a feminized place with fuglies because of their career, because they’re making payments on a house they can’t sell or because they’ve adopted an ideology (like tribalism) that is ultimately run by the older women in their “tribe” who want to keep them from straying off the reservation.

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  116. on April 29, 2011 at 1:32 pm coyote

    Unless of course, you go to a country where there’s a massive status difference between that and your home country.

    Fascinating to read about Thailand. Apparently every white guy from the west that goes there gets hit all the time, no game required, zero effort required, the guys can just click their fingers and bang a different stunningly hot chick of their choice every night. I image Roissy might eventually retire to Thailand in his old age?

    The interesting point here is that the frame is completely flipped in this situation for REAL, any decent white guy is automaticaaly seen as the perfect ’10’, and after several weeks this causes the the guy to radically change his behaviour – in fact he starts acting towards the girls like hot chicks normally do to men back in their home country! (this suggests that perhaps men and women aren’t actually that different – it’s just different circumstances that cause different behaviour?)

    Everyone should read Extropy’s post about his month in Thailand… it’s a huge eye opener.

    http://www.practicalpickup.com/life-through-the-eyes-of-a-beautiful-woman

    Thailand leaves absolutely no doubt about the truth of game principles… Status differentials are indeed making a HUGE HUGE difference in attraction, just as PUAs always claimed. Women dig status, beyond a shadow of a doubt.

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  117. on April 30, 2011 at 3:50 am Let's Go

    LOL.

    Sometimes, you’ve got some great posts with insight. Sometimes, you’ve got half-baked theories that can’t really be tested so people just accept them.

    This time, however, you are so completely wrong AND your readers have enough experience to know it, we have to wonder if you really know anything about what you write.

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  118. on April 30, 2011 at 9:57 am Peter A

    Jerry,

    The chip on my shoulder is that you are spreading lots of disinformation about a country you clearly don’t know, and I do. On this one you need to bend to your superiors.

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  119. on April 30, 2011 at 11:32 am Anonymous

    Anyone who’s been to Russia and not had a great time with decent women has either a severe personality disorder or is a closet homosexual. John McCain never could get over the fact that a St. Petersburg native shot him down.

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  120. on April 30, 2011 at 12:23 pm Jerry

    @Peter

    That was one of the more amusing comments I’ve seen on the Internet. You might want to put the hostility in check if you’re seriously implying that you’d be upset to learn that someone else knows a culture better than you.

    You were hostile before I ever commented on this thread (except for the anonymous post I made that caused the Prince William post to happen) so it’s clear that you aren’t angry just because you got challenged on your intent to agree with the feminist position about men who go to Russia. You seriously wanted to push that feminist position down the throats of readers here before I stepped in.

    Read the blogger’s post about IMBRA so you can understand why it’s not a good idea to take the feminist position on, for instance, what men are supposedly always like who use the Internet to meet Russian women:

    http://roissy.wordpress.com/2009/10/19/repeal-the-imbra-now/

    You are just pissed off at Russia and it’s not because their economy isn’t as entrepreneurial as the US. There’s another post you should read on this blog that says that women are actually better where an economy is NOT super-heated and where 19 year olds are not flush with student loan cash (the American student loan problem is as bad as the real estate one).

    Putin is considered alpha on this blog. Bush would be considered a lower beta and Obama a gamma.

    I am assuming your Russia problem is because you got burned by a scammer at a bridal agency and got angry at the experience. But that would be like judging the USA because you accidentally walked into a gay bar in San Francisco and accidentally kissed a transvestite.

    In all fairness to something you said above, there are people with low self esteem in all countries who hate their own culture so much that they couldn’t respect a foreigner for living there. This happens more in smaller countries like Denmark and the Czech than in superpowers like France, Russia and Germany but it happens enough everywhere that an American man is best first telling new women that he’s on a business trip in order to milk a sort of “home field advantage” if she’s been dreaming of moving to the USA.

    But the best women want to hear a guy say he plans to stick around and fits in. So there’s a Catch22.

    One has to play it by ear.

    The same is true when a man makes the decision to come across as not being able to speak the local language or speaking it very well.

    Some women respond kindly to foreigners who seem lost language-wise. Others are super rude when a guy can’t speak their language. If the latter happens while I’m trying a “Do you speak english” open, I would start speaking in her language within seconds in order to save the open.

    But the puppy dog “do you speak english” open is wickedly effective otherwise.

    Women treat foreigners either really well or really poorly.

    But in Russia, your main problem should have been that you had to check IDs. Only a fag or whistful married man would have a “problem” with that kind of problem.

    Something tells me you’re married now and don’t want to learn that you could have had a great time in Russia.

    That’s called cognitive dissonance. People need to understand that this emotion is one that says “I’d like to feel I made the correct decision when I got married and that I wouldn’t have had more fun doing something else.”

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  121. on April 30, 2011 at 12:26 pm T

    Czech girls are hot

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  122. on May 1, 2011 at 1:49 am Dannifer Pibb

    Not being familiar with the local culture is a low ranking, easily insubstantiated status handicap. Girls are far more intrigued by exotic men who have some instrutable reason for abandoning the comfort of their home country to explore other places. On the other hand, it’s pretty obvious, to RUssian girls for example, if a guy is traveling just for pussy.

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  123. on May 1, 2011 at 5:12 am Linkage is Good for You: Close-Up Edition

    […] on Your Girlfriend or Wife“, “Women Are More Comfortable Sharing a Lover“, “It’s Easier Picking Up Foreign Girls in Your Home Country“, “Leave Her Place More Often Than She Leaves Yours“, “Prince William: Beta […]

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  124. on May 1, 2011 at 7:26 am peanut

    that’s interesting, i’ve known many men who picked up women in foreign countries, what about men in the military? americans in the military get with foreign women all the time.

    I think its the MEN who like foreign women because they feel like they’ll be more submissive and affable (just like the article says). also don’t forget that a foreign woman stands out more, so she has a greater chance of being approached just by standing out more.

    http://www.dawnali.com/lovinmysistas/index.php?topic=11.msg18#msg18

    “If she’s not fluent in English and she’s from Russia, Africa, Latin America or some parts of East Europe, expect the glow of automatic tingles whenever an American man talks to her to linger for two years.”

    this comment comes off arrogant

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  125. on May 6, 2011 at 1:58 pm Rarfy

    Yup, I traveled abroad and couldn’t get laid. At all. But when I met women over the internet coming to California it was real easy.

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